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Outfront Media rescinds contract for Scientology ‘disconnection’ billboard in Hollywood

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After he signed a three-month, $8,200 contract for a billboard about Scientology with the Los Angeles office of Outfront Media, former Scientologist Phil Jones has learned that the New York head office of Outfront — formerly CBS Outdoor — canceled the contract without explanation.

“The head office in New York decided to cancel the contract and they said they won’t be giving us any space,” Phil tells us. “I asked, but they wouldn’t say if there was any outside influence. Might have just been the Scientology thing. It does worry people.”

The billboard would have called attention to the Church of Scientology’s policy of disconnection, which requires members to cut off all contact from former members who have been declared “suppressive” — Scientology’s version of excommunication. Phil and his wife Willie are former members who no longer hear from their grown children, Mike and Emily, who both work for the church. Like other families, they are struggling against disconnection by trying to raise awareness about it.

We called Outfront’s Los Angeles billboard manager at the end of the business day there yesterday and left a message, asking for some explanation of why the billboard had been rejected. So far, we haven’t received a reply.

Phil told us that he’s disappointed, but he plans to contact other billboard companies and isn’t giving up. In the meantime, he told us that because our readers and others have backed him with more than $12,000 at last count, he feels obliged to keep everyone updated on what’s happening with the project.

Phil admitted that he was taken by surprise. After signing a contract and setting a date, he believed that the billboard was a done deal. “We actually had a copy of the contract signed by their office here sent to us,” he says, explaining that he wanted to make sure and have a signed copy for his records. “I think the clause on artwork approval was their loophole, but they wouldn’t even entertain us changing the artwork.”

Phil says he was given no guidelines about what might have been a problem for the head office. One of the things that struck us about the design, when we first reported on the billboard last week, was its benign and generally positive message and tone. Is Outfront really so afraid of Scientology it objects to asking members of the church to phone home?

We’ll keep trying to get a response from Outfront as Phil goes on to look for other outlets.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Here’s today’s lost gem from the XENU TV archives. Says Mark Bunker: “Shortly after we opened the LMT in January of 2000, a couple of locals came to join us in a protest of Scientology. Bob Minton and Stacy Brooks speak about the message of reform the LMT was trying to spread.”

 

 
Now this sounds like a party.

 
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  • Beth

    Are these Outfront billboards? Should the company talk to some Delphi graduates? parents of children who died in a Narconon? Someone who can explain the reality of what CCHR really is? How many scientology billboards do they have ?

    • MrsLurksALot

      The first two are Clear Channel, not sure about the third.

      • Beth

        thank you.
        eta: derp. it’s right in the photos 🙁

        • MrsLurksALot

          You’re welcome. The third may be Lamar, can’t tell. Just goes to show CoS gives significant money to all the billboard companies. They spread the provable bullshit all the fuck around, excuse my French.

    • Beth

      this one is in the hollywood hills:

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        This is an Outfront billboard located across the street from the Celebrity Centre.

        ETA: The UCB Theatre is on the left

        • Beth

          ugh. so they will shill for L. Ron Hubbard, but will not do honest business with Phil. I am disgusted.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          So the cult has perhaps a multiyear contract for at least one billboard – and easily could threaten to pull it if Outfront took $10,000 from Phil and Willie. Could be all about money?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      The CCHR one is a Lamar billboard.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      The Narconon and Delphi are Clear Channel.

      • Beth

        double derp. I was temporarily blinded by rage 🙁

      • that name always made me go “Hmm…”

  • Asillem4

    Out front Media’s Twitter account: https://twitter.com/OutfrontMediaUS

    • richelieu jr

      ^^^^^^^^^
      This, folks! This!

    • salin

      Check out their slogan (on the left hand side)

      Always innovating. Always connecting. Always on. Always the right
      choice. Always. Tweets to third party content are not endorsed by
      OUTFRONT Media.

      Connecting? Nope, supporting disconnection. The right choice? Depends upon whether or not one agrees with abusive cults, or not.

      • Asillem4

        I wanted to type “Always doing what Scientology tells them to do” when I saw this.

  • JOE BLOW

    Lawn signs. Plenty of locals hate the cult.

    • Doc M

      Good idea, that’s a relatively inexpensive solution, however, cities and townships have rules as to where theses signs can be displayed. It’s usally far easier in the smaller rural areas, but probably gets less exposure.

      • JOE BLOW

        Could a homeowner not display this on their own property? Sounds like a constitutional right to me

        • No. There is no ‘Constitutional Right’ which covers municipal rules about lawn signs.

          • Doc M

            No constitutional right, however local jurisdictions can pass local laws what is and is not acceptable…even on your property.

            In other words I could never place a KKK symbol or Nazi swash-sticker on my lawn.

          • Gerard Plourde

            To throw another curve ball – If you live in a development that has an owners’ association, they can have all sorts of rules that restrict your conduct (like posting signs, how you are to landscape your property, whether you can park your truck in the driveway- a self-employed contractor I knew fell afoul of this one, etc.)

  • SciWatcher

    How is this legal? Umm, freedom of speech anyone?

    • Technically ‘Freedom of Speech’ means that Government can’t interfere with what you say. The billboard company isn’t government, and therefore can set its own rules.

    • Beth

      Since it’s a private company, don’t think it’s illegal. But it reminds me of the discrimination case when a bakery refused to make a wedding cake for a gay couple.

      • Kim O’Brien

        those asshole bakers lost in court

    • Gerard Plourde

      The First Amendment doesn’t cover restriction of speech by non-governmental entities.

  • flyonthewall

    What about commissioning a big mural from a pro street artist?

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I made this comment to Duck up thread, but I really do like the idea of guerrilla art in this case.

  • richelieu jr

    I have never hated to say “I told you so” morte than this (of course vennI thought the initial contract would be honored, and any extensions would be ignored me rules or no.

    Simply counting on a Billboard company to ignore nation-wide threats of lawsuits my arson harassment and loss of business- whilst most likely being offered a wad of cash at the same time for the leash sum of 8k is unrealistic and Panglossian to the point of Easter a bunnies and Santa delivering extra fairy dust to pour on Big Blue. The IRS and FBI couldn’t do it.

    As I said befor- perhaps if he were a Bunkerite, and even then, there are a lot of Easter Baskets and X-,maps stockings having sad and empty because of to much belief in Marty Clause.

    Well, in the words of my idol, Groucho, “There ain’t no insanity clause!”, folks.

    It was too wonderful, and was too certain to stick in Miscavige’s craw, to last.

    But for one brief swing, moment we won,

    (and this sort of effort is sorts trying to spread in other ways… Anybody own any apartment buildings or just apartments in the area? KCET would seem to be an Achilles heel for the right plan…

    Remember: any plan that depends on sheer cash to win will be lost, as will any that reap quotes moral fortitude and/or personal sacrifice by one of us woggies who isn’t personally invested. Hell, it took being sued twice for a cool mill each tile for NO REASON for me to wake up and say- wait a second, why are these toothy grins so damn sensitive?

    This isn’t over, we are winning the battle, in fact have won. He is treading water and trying to run out his luxuriant lifestyle on the backs of his for as long as possible.

    And know that, for free we definitely got that pin-prick of prickly shit’s full attention and doubtless some of his minions who help distribute beatings, “severe reality adjust,nets”, punishments for ‘deliberate tallness’, ‘daring to have a sex life untouchable with a one-inch prick (whose own prick prick remains a mystery unseeable with the naked eye, and undesirable to see naked, I believe), and lack of “Sanppy Spaniel Saluting”.

    Good times.

    • Doc M

      Not Groucho, Chico my friend.

      • richelieu jr

        Well, in fact they all said it in the stage version, but in “Opera”, you are absolutely right, of course!

  • Chee Chalker

    Can’t say I am surprised, but let’s hope this backfires like everything else and even MORE attention is drawn to the project!
    “If Liberty means anything at all, it means the right to tell people what they do not want to hear”. George Orwell

  • richelieu jr

    I do not think I have ever seen two human beings more in need of drugs than that Freedom Medal Winner and Dr Whiteytightassenstein there.

    Perhaps a suitably powerful psychedelic (ahuesca?) might help FM Winner Igor to grow or at least hallucinate a neck?

    And the more I look at it,mother less sure I am that the other guy’s tie may in fact sontutute some sort of reality-bending psychedelic in itself. What is does NOT constitute, however, is a reasonable fashion choice by a healthy mind. More ac cry for help, along the lines of a POW blinking in code.

  • Chee Chalker

    One more thing…..i dont like to use vulgarity, but since we know OSA reads this……..DAVID MISCAVIGE IS A PUSSY

    • April

      I don’t understand why people think they’re weak. They can pop out a 7 or 8 pound baby for chrissakes.

      But I get your message. And I approve.

      • Chee Chalker

        In my case a 9 pound 7 ouncer! ,(that was the heaviest)

        • April

          Holy smokes that’s a big baby! My largest was 6 lbs 13 oz. At 21″ in length, she looked like a big grasshopper all curled up.

      • Kim O’Brien

        “Why do people say “grow some balls”? Balls are weak and sensitive. If you wanna be tough, grow a vagina. Those things can take a pounding.”
        ~Betty White

        • April

          Exactly. I was channeling Betty White when I said that, lol.

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          It’s because men are riven with insecurities, and feel the need to assert their authoritay!

  • jazzlover

    Sky writing. Planes that fly over beaches and such with huge banners behind them. Possibly city-owned display spaces in exchange for a “charitable” contribution.

    • salin

      No seaorg or staffer is going to be able to see skybanners that are flown over beaches.

      I like the idea of advertising on city buses.

      • jazzlover

        But outsiders will, and the more outsiders making noise, the better! 🙂

    • SucculentDuck

      Postcards, stickers … stencil that can be spray painted everywhere like the Obey / Andre the Giant things we see on sidewalks everywhere out here. The billboard idea, and accompanying momentum this snowball is building outside the Bunker, is a kick in he pants in the right direction for us now. I’m not discouraged. Let’s brainstorm!

      • salin

        A flashmob out front of Big Blue “Call Me”

        • skiesareblue

          I’m in.

      • jazzlover

        That’s what I’m trying to do here 🙂 There are ways around this, and those ways exist in places that have no skin in the game, if you get what I’m saying.

        • SucculentDuck

          High Five

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Actually, I like the idea of a little guerrilla art…

    • I vaguely recall at least once when a banner plane company backed out of signed contract too.

      • jazzlover

        We can’t assume that everyone will do exactly the same thing under exactly the same circumstances. That would be like being in scientology.

        • No, but it’s important to make sure any deals are solid all the way to the top, so that when CoS does their Wall of Crazy campaign they don’t panic.

          • jazzlover

            I’m not sure there is a way to do that. Aside from all the BS with the LAPD, it’s possible that targeting something city owned might be the best way. Also, making sure the message is as far away from what could be considered religious bigotry is a good idea too.

  • Not surprised by the latest turn of events. Could work to our advantage PR-wise. I like all the ideas I’ve seen this morning. Lawn signs. Tee Shirts. Protest Signs. Mobile billboards. Phil, have you considered buying an ad? Full page or double truck spread in the LA Weekly? Entertainment section of the LA Times? LA Times online? I know that the gofundme was for a billboard, but I don’t think that anybody would mind seeing a huge ad in a widely-read publication either.

    This. Ain’t. Over.

    • jazzlover

      Can LA periodicals and newspapers be “bought”?

    • Jimmy3

      This ain’t over.

      • nope, i hear no fat lady singing!

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          She isn’t even tuning up in the wings…

        • SucculentDuck

          Nor do I. I only hear a few squeaky wheels. Who’s got the grease?

          • Jimmy3

            The fat lady probably has the grease! Get her!

            • SucculentDuck

              Thanks for snapping me back into alternate reality, Jimmy Jimmy Jimmy! I was headed down a dark strange path.

          • Draco

            John Travolta?

      • flyonthewall
      • April

        Reminds me of the end of that song by Guy, called Groove Me…
        https://youtu.be/PAu2bsV9CiQ?t=4m10s

    • April

      The trick is going to be getting the “Call Me” message in front of the eyes of sea orgers and staff who need to see it. Unless they read the LA Weekly or LA Times, it won’t help bring about the desired effect (that sea orgers and staff call their families) imho.

      • SucculentDuck

        Agreed, but the positive side effect is the public will start to spread this once they know what’s really happening. We are far more knowledgeable on the subject here in he Bunker than the majority who just think it’s a weird cult. I like that Phil has picked this as a battle we can support. It will lead to bigger things.

        • WhatWall

          Exactly!

          Getting the message out to LOTS of people also puts pressure on Miscavige to end the practice of disconnection.

          Miscavige was forced to shut down The Hole by public exposure of Debbie Cook’s court testimony. This billboard message also puts the ugliness of disconnection on public display.

          The billboard was a great idea because, not only would it reach the many who viewed it, it had potential for media coverage. Miscavige responds to things that make him look bad (often with footbullets!).

          This billboard message can be gotten in front of the public in other ways. It is a beautifully crafted message that can reach Scientologists who’ve disconnected, as well as put pressure on Miscavige.

          • SucculentDuck

            I’m with you on everything except for “forced to shut down The Hole”… My understanding is that it is still very much in use in some capacity somewhere.

            • WhatWall

              You’re right. “forced to shut down The Hole” should have been “influenced towards better treatment of those in The Hole.”

              From wikipedia article on The Hole: “According to John Brousseau, the bad publicity led to reforms of the Hole. Its inmates were allowed to sleep in proper beds in the “Berthing” quarters elsewhere in the compound.”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Hole_%28Scientology%29

        • WhatWall

          BTW, the practice of disconnection as enforced now is different than what I experienced 30 years ago. Back then “handling” the antagonistic party was emphasized over disconnection.

          Not to say that the kinder, gentler approach of “handling” was necessarily better. By successfully handling someone you gave them the false impression that everything was fine with Scientology. Enforced disconnection at least reveals $cientology’s true colors.

          As has been often stated, enforced disconnection is tacit acknowledgement by Scientologists that they don’t have the communication skills to deal with any disagreement over the value of Scientology.

  • skiesareblue

    Temporary setback. In the meantime, the story is gaining legs.

  • richelieu jr

    You know, I was thinking about how all those stars have been immortalized with their foot and hand prints in the cement in front of Graumann’s (or who ever owns it these days) Chinese Theatre on Hollywood Blvd–

    Perhaps it is about time l’il Cap’n Crunched, Davey Liscacige final had his knee prints immortalized nearby, with the he inscription “I,CoBSCOHB!”

    As he swore he had no idea what this letters meant I am sure he wont’t dare sue and bring the ‘Hole’ issue of who sucked what and where into the public record.

    And yet, who can forget the humanitarian outreach and relief he brought to so many.

    To paraphrase legendary Prile Minister of Great Britain (and Giant, Cigar-Chomping Baby), “Never before have so many owed so much to so few for having been their slaves.

    And no one is fewer than YOU, Cap’n!

    We salute you, CoB! :

    “Hello, Sailor!”

  • SucculentDuck

    Car wrap, guy spinning a sign on a street corner … so many ideas popping into my head but I I kinda want Phil’s ok to let let them go public until he needs another plan

    • seriouslyWTF

      Phil provided information in a post below with a link to the artwork and ideas to start now. Fliers, etc. He is asking for help to get the word out now while he works on a new plan.

      • SucculentDuck

        Thx. No time to scroll… So we should just get the word out about the billboard being cancelled right now?

  • JOE BLOW

    It’s always a good idea to consult experts. I’ll bet there are public relations people in this community. Present them with a budget and the message you want to get across to get maximum exposure.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      Outsiders have been the bane of Scientology from day one.

      Totally agree, as one who was a LONG TERM dupe staffer, it’s been outsiders and the professionals who are worldly wise who have always been smart enough to see the big picture of human history and what snags and undoes human history’s big fads and cons.

      This Scientology con is a big one.

      Some outside professional public relations people or consultant experts I wish any who take interest in Scientology maybe give their pro bono advice to Phil.

  • I’m so sorry this didn’t work out Phil. I try to always see a positive in negatives and in this case I think there’s going to be several positives. One, the contract rescinding might garner press coverage (other than here, natch) which will not only get your billboard message across; but also the difficulties, that perhaps, scientology causes [we don’t why it was rescinded it might have been they didn’t want to deal with scientology]. Two, this might create an opportunity for a company to offer a bigger, better billboard somewhere or even another advertising opportunity.

    Please try to stay positive despite this setback! ((HUGS))

  • jazzlover

    Street artists dying for exposure. Connection to some ancillary event like a performance artist looking for exposure. These could be done as part of a wide spread campaign to get the word out since I know that these don’t directly target the “real” target audience. This way, there could be a build-up to something more memorable that will stick in people’s craws. Like a build-up to a crescendo that has a lasting effect.

  • Jimmy3

    I have a crazy idea… How about a different billboard company?

    Wtf is wrong with you people?

    • Jimmy3

      NO, we need someone to douse themself in fat lady grease, set themself on fire and sing WE STAND TALL on Rodeo Drive!!!

      • Doc M

        Are you volunteering?

        • jazzlover

          We can have your Haight/Ashbury jam band dudes headline the event 🙂

          • Doc M

            You’re out of the loop, the Haight is now a very gentrified area, like Park Slope. However it still has Ameoba, the best CD store…possibly in the country! They have everything!

            • Jimmy3

              “Out of the loop … best CD store….”
              Heh.

            • Doc M

              Yup, the best, google it, it has everything.
              Size of a huge Bowling alley that had closed.

              They got a lot of my money over the years.

            • jazzlover

              I was making a funny reference to the “Dead Don’t Die”, or whatever Weir and Lesh are going by these days. LOL

            • Doc M

              I think Lesh is retired and running his restaurant in San Rafael, Weir, still doing the same old GD songs that grew old the day after they originally played them.

              Sorry, I’ve tried, but I find that band really monotonous.

              Jazz, I caught you’re reference.

            • jazzlover

              They are foinking horrible. Talk about a musical “cult” (serious eye rolling).

            • Doc M

              Yes, cult like.
              I never could understand why Garcia was considered a “Great Guitarist”???

              On the other hand, how lucky could you get…having a 30 year career and making a good living playing that type of music.

              Something for the cult psychologists to figure out. Another in a long list, I just don’t get.

            • jazzlover

              I’m afraid that’s called taking advantage of the opportunity to pander to the sheep. No two ways about it, unfortunately. Plus, fans like free reign to record and bootleg. That’s called entitlement.

      • Kim O’Brien

        see…this is the Hunter’esque stuff i am talking about ..:) …LOL

        • Jimmy3

          I met a personal trainer the other day, and he was like, “I’ll put you on a routine, bruh. Truss me.”
          And I was like, “Naw, no routines, BRUH.. I just want to get into sarong shape.”

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Stop that crazy talk, Jimmy, we’re having fun trying to creatively circumvent the craven caving in by the Outfront shills.

      • Jimmy3

        THIS IS NO TIME FOR FUN.
        WE SHOULD BE SHOOPING PENISES ON THEIR FOREHEADS

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          YES SIR!!(guess I know what I’ll be doing all afternoon now!)

      • SucculentDuck

        This. Maybe too serious for a Saturday morning (here)? Should we all get back in our footie pjs and snuggle up in front of cartoons on the tele?

        • jazzlover

          I’m listening to Thrak while doing just that. Am I crazy? 😉

          • SucculentDuck

            Affirmative ;p

            I’m stepping out for a few hours. Will be back this afternoon when I have more time to see what Phil’s plan is. Please keep me posted on the revolution.

            • jazzlover

              I will be the Che Guevara to your Fidel Castro 😉

          • Doc M

            Of course, do you need to ask. (aside from the music that is)!

            From the other day, I’m still listening to “The Blues and Abstract” and “New Bottle”. Always sounds so cool!

            More or less the time the public was listening to Patti Page: “How much is that doggy in the Window”

            Amazing huh?

            • jazzlover

              Yes! This new mix of Thrak rocks, though. I am a dinosaur, indeed 🙂

            • Doc M

              Great music always stands the test of time.

            • jazzlover

              This is still the SECOND best version of Crim to me. Smokes the Discipline band. Way better song writing. When Bruford and Levin left this, the music became as industrial and sterile as a doctor’s office waiting room 😉

            • Doc M

              Hard to pick my favorite, but I guess the one I put on most often is the Lark’s Tongue band, not to say that I don’t listen to the others.

              We’ve had this talk before, anyway you look at it, KC was a great and important band!.

            • jazzlover

              Still are. Possibly the best ever.

            • Doc M

              Think I sent you this before, but if not:

              http://www.fripp.com/about-patricia-fripp/

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, she’s famous in the Crim community. Have you ever seen her speak? Bobby has been known to travel to SF on occasion to accompany her.

            • Doc M

              No as she speaks to large businesses I believe, however, I had told you that I used to see Fripp in the neighborhood, but thought it was someone else as I could never understand why he’d be here. Than I found out that his sister lived in the neighborhood and it all made sense.

              He’s around quite a bit!

            • jazzlover

              Next time you see him, tell him I said “hi” 🙂 He’s quite the character. I’d love the chance to talk to him, but unfortunately, he’s so closed off that it would almost be like trying to have a one-on-one with God himself. LOL

            • Doc M

              I’ll give him your email address and tell him you’re looking for work as a roadie.

            • jazzlover

              LOL. With the 3 drummers they now have and all their gear, no thanks 🙂

            • Doc M

              sent you an email

            • jazzlover

              replied

        • April

          Right. And who stole my binkie?

          • jazzlover

            File that under one of the cutest words I haven’t heard in a while 😉

          • Draco

            *slides binkie sheepishly across table*

            • jazzlover

              Wipe it off first 😉

    • Observer

      Apparently Scientology uses a number of different billboard companies in LA.

      • aegerprimo

        Good story for Tony O to research.

      • Dr_Orpheus

        You can bet Dave Dastardly’s flunkies are working on signing contracts with all billboard companies in LA and Clearwater who didn’t already have business from a Scientology related/completely unrelated organization.

    • dagobarbz

      I have a crazier idea…how about you practice READING COMPREHENSION before commenting?

      “Phil told us that he’s disappointed, but he plans to contact other billboard companies and isn’t giving up.”

      • Jimmy3

        I was responding to the most recent comments. But nice shot.

  • Observer

    Ooo, the progenitor of The Glamorous Meghan Fialkoff on the Slavewinds! That’ll bring ’em in!

    • Graham

      Ah yes, the Megan Failkoff whose own attempts at fundraising resulted in ZERO donations. Fails don’t get much more massive than that.

      • April

        I had a raging case of schadenfreude when that happened.
        The thoughts of it still give me chuckles.

    • So, Foundation for a Drug-Free World holds their meeting on Scientology’s religious retreat. Explain to us again how FDFW isn’t Scientology and therefore not religious-blocked from schools?

      • Jimmy3

        It doesn’t matter. They have a very glamorous spokeswoman. We shouldn’t question it.

        • Ella Raitch

          You have refreshingly simple view of things

      • Observer

        Their “religious retreat” which is not open to non-Scientologists

  • nottrue

    Maybe the billboard should go to scientologys front door…SP army wearing them

    • dagobarbz

      Why not just get a staple gun and a backpack and a big piece of cardboard? You can haz for less than $299.99!

      • Graham

        Yes, but come on: there’s a FREE CARRY CASE!

        • dagobarbz

          Hefty makes these awesome stretchy garbage bags that won’t break. I have a box of them, would you like one? 😀

    • Draco

      I can imagine this. No words, no taunting, just a silent group of people walking all around the scilon compound with signs that say:
      Your mom loves you. Call her.
      Your dad misses you. Call him.
      Your grand children want to know you. Call them.
      Your son misses you so much. Call him.
      Your daughter is having a baby. Call her.

      Etc. I think it would create quite an impact.

    • flyonthewall

      and Hollywood blvd

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        One wouldn’t even get noticed wearing one of those things on Hollywood Blvd! This is true.

    • Frodis73

      If I was in LA or CW I would totally walk around with the dorky thing on my back.

    • Those smartphones just keep getting bigger and bigger!

  • Sarah James

    I bet Captain David ” let him die” Miscavige wet his pants befoe he threw money to stop the sign from going up.

  • Bob

    I can only imagine what their kids are going to go through regarding this growing situation.

    • Observer

      Whatever it is, I hope it wakes them up.

  • aegerprimo

    DON’T GIVE UP SID!
    Los Angeles is a big city.

  • flyonthewall

    Forget it Sid, it’s Chinatown

  • nottrue

  • BeeTee

    This billboard situation has all the hallmarks of a classic backfire for Scientology. I’ll be surprised if at least one reporter for a prominent media outlet–local or national–doesn’t pick up this story and amplify the news about Scientology’s unethical intimidation tactics and the tragic nature of its disconnection policies. The message may not get in front of the eyes of the local Sea Org members as directly as the initial billboard plan, but I’m optimistic that this setback will actually advance the goal of getting this message out, both to the general public and the “disconnected” themselves.

    • Jimmy3

      I really doubt Scientology exerted much pressure, thus there’s not much of a story. It seems like it probably just took one polite phone call. They do a lot more business with the company.

      • BeeTee

        You are probably correct that Scientology used a light touch–it could even be that somebody at the billboard company independently made the decision to avoid troubling Scientology, without so much as a call. But I think there is still a good story here. 1. This is hardly the first time something unflattering to Scientology has been refused/cancelled/etc. So there’s a pattern that can be used as a lead into the real story, the one about disconnection, and the fact that we have adults walking around in the middle of Los Angeles who are being coerced in the name of religion into severing all ties with their parents and children. That’s a story.

        • Jimmy3

          With you on that

        • aegerprimo

          Somehow I don’t think there was a “light touch” at all… it is all about the money. The Co$ has big bucks.

          • BeeTee

            Whether the billboard company just wanted to steer clear of conflict or somebody at the CoS threatened them directly, the result is the same and, yes, the “big bucks” are no doubt the reason anyone would be intimidated by Scientology. It would be interesting for some intrepid reporter to get in there and find out just how that decision was made, though, wouldn’t it?

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Having followed the fortunes of outdoor advertising in LA for some time, I will say this is not surprising. The owners and renters of billboards in the region include some of the most corrupt and cutthroat characters ever to grace the pages of a scandal mag. Virtually every city official has, at some time or another, been offered bribes by these companies, and many elected officials happily accept. Billboard companies have put up signs in the dead of night without permits, cut down or poisoned trees with impunity, and fought neighborhood groups with nearly unlimited legal funds. Oy.

    That said, here’s a list. I believe these are all active companies. Some may not have exactly what the Jones are looking for. Some may offer more than they bargained on!

    Billboard companies in Los Angeles:
    Lamar
    Clear Channel
    OutFront
    Billboards Outdoor
    Swing Media
    John Quinn Media
    Fuel Outdoor
    Ace Outdoor Advertising
    Regency Outdoor Advertising
    Fiesta Communications (Hispanic)

    National billboard companies:
    National Outdoor Media
    Blue Line Media
    Billboard Tech
    Billboards Outdoor
    Visions Advertising Media

    • Jimmy3

      No. We need skydiving, skywriting fat lady street performers.

      • Jimmy3

        Wrapped in car wrap.

        • Jimmy3

          With backpack billboards.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            … on roller blades.

            • Jimmy3

              Of course they need rollerblades. God damn that’s a good idea.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Are you freebasing juice boxes again?

            • Jimmy3

              Again? I never stopped.

    • Dave Reams

      I vote for Clear Channel!

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      This is great! Thanks. I had some of these but not all.

  • jazzlover

    Is it possible to do this billboard thing “second hand” — as in, through a sympathizing company that has some clout, which a billboard company could not possibly turn down? I’m thinking Microsoft or Apple level clout. These are companies that give tons of money to worthy causes, and I’m sure that they would consider this worthy, especially if Scientology is connected to poisoning minds in schools through their front groups. Gates, for instance, gives tons of money to schools around the country. If he (or someone else) can see that scientology is directly working “at odds” to what he’s trying to accomplish, it could send a powerful message.

  • stillgrace2

    OK. Deep Breath. DISAPPOINTED!

    https://youtu.be/R97TsVDC1BY

    My Margaret Mead Quote for the situation:

    “Never doubt that a small group of thoughtful, committed citizens can change the world.
    Indeed, it is the only thing that ever has.”

    • Qbird

      EXACTLY!

  • Mark

    Quite certain this latest ‘Fleawinds’ mailer is only about drugs, Shortarse? A few (a very few) rich fools may still believe you, but millions wouldn’t. (Refresh dismal attempts to make the old tub look less battered):

    • Frodis73

      Love the Dr Who shout out!

    • Graham

      Mr Balls Felloff! Mark, you so naughty!

      • Mark

        After engendering the dread Meghan, I bet they did.

        • Graham

          We can only hope!

    • Jake Hamby

      I prefer SS Mesothelioma myself. Mostly because I know “mesothelioma” has been one of the most expensive search terms to buy Google ads against for many years. All those trial lawyers wanting to advertise their services to potential clients who might want to sue whichever organization exposed them to asbestos years ago… With so many Scientologists dying of cancer, the link between asbestos exposure and mesothelioma (a deadly form of lung cancer) is an important connection to keep reminding people of. One more legal liability the Church is needlessly assuming by running the Freewinds without a proper asbestos decontamination.

      • Jake Hamby

        Lawrence Woodcraft tells the terrifying tale of retrofitting the Freewinds in the 1980s and how the Church denied the hazardous nature of the ship’s asbestos insulation (40 minute video). http://youtu.be/lqf-WvrEuGI

      • Mark

        I shall bear the SS Mesothelioma in mind for future shoops.

    • daisy

      Brilliant and not that English brilliant , A real brilliant.

  • Observer

    Not sure what I mean by this. I just feld the need to do it.

    F5

    • Jimmy3

      That must one gigantic plane. Have you cleared this with NORAD??

      • Observer

        Shhh … Santa’s pulling it.

        • Jimmy3

          Ahhhhhh

          *Sits back down and lights his juice box spoon*

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The billboard project has already demonstrated creativity, community, generosity and hope.
    Just this already must freak DM out.
    All of these qualities are as foreign as Patagonia to him.
    He relies instead on blackmail, coercion, lies and violence.
    The violence that is his use of money and legal threats is violence nonetheless,
    as much as his overt violence.

    The creativity that is here will not vanish.
    He does not like people who are smarter than he is.
    Though he thinks he’s smarter than just about anyone,
    proof seems in short supply.

    Since he’s got major lacunae in his education, has been
    immersed in a cult since he was a teenager and is not,
    in some crucial ways, a very bright guy – certainty
    can do that to you – he is suspicious of a lot of people
    everybody.

    Phew, it must suck to be you, Dave.
    Life is a Ru-bik’s cube you can’t solve, you absurd turd.
    Whatever will they dream up next to taunt you and haunt you?

    TICK TOCK

    • How would you know Patagonia is foreign to David Miscavige?

      There must be an Ideal Org over there.

      • Draco

        47 in fact!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Here’s an old article (2008), but a good one, about the whole sordid world of LA’s outdoor advertising:
    http://www.laweekly.com/news/billboards-gone-wild-4-000-illegal-billboards-choke-las-neighborhoods-2153144

    • jazzlover

      Are you saying “give up on LA”?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Not at all.

        I am saying that this is not all that surprising, considering the milieu…

        • jazzlover

          Any ideas for a solution or end-around?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Find a smaller company that doesn’t have much to lose. I posted a list below.

          • Jake Hamby

            The billboard companies only care about money. They’ll happily advertise liquor, or strip clubs, or cigarettes (until laws were passed against tobacco ads). Yet a G-rated, non-confrontational, fully paid ad to encourage Scientologists to reconnect with friends and family outside the church is too controversial. I suspect Scientology threatened them with a negative PR campaign (religious bigots!) and they cowered in fear and rushed to pull the ad.

            • jazzlover

              Again, any ideas for a solution or end-around?

    • Jimmy3

      Holy hell, if there were 4,000 illegal billboards 8 years ago, how many are there today?
      And why can’t we get one? Heh

  • outraged

    well, well well. I had an awful notion this would happen. Scientology, controlling trolling liars got to someone at Outfront Media. Here they are, the heads, the leaders, the ones with the power. WHO is in DM’s pocket? Who got the phone call? Who axed the Disconnection Billboard. I thought you guys were for the public?????

    Their Strategy:

    Our mission is to elevate the entire out-of-home medium, by connecting advertisers with the best assets, audiences, innovations, and people in the business. Our commitment is to always be out front and ahead of the curve, helping our customers grow and prosper by putting them at the center of everything we do.

    We embrace change and take the lead in creating new markets, new formats, and new opportunities. We put fresh thinking and innovative approaches to work in all aspects of our business – from digital networks, to social and mobile integration, to improved business practices.

    f5

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    I wonder if Phil has a worthwhile case for breach of contract? Even a good settlement could buy more advertising.

    • Frodis73

      No, they didn’t keep his money.

      • Robert Eckert

        if he gets a more expensive billboard in a less desirable location, he could potentially sue for the difference, although it would likely be more trouble than it is worth

  • mikecrosby

    How would CoS know about this billboard? My guess is they read this blog and its comments. How could someone in CoS, who’s ordered to read these comments and report, not eventually blow themselves?

    What kind of huge disconnect would one have who’s in CoS to read Tony’s blog everyday and then go about their business in that mindf*** organization?

    • Jimmy3

      I watch a lot of Fox News and I can’t fucking stand it. But I want to know what they’re saying so I can disagree with it and make fun of it. I imagine OSA spies have a similar disconnect from the content they’re monitoring. But it still gets back to INT.

      • mikecrosby

        I got ya Jimmy, but do they tell themselves the stories here are not true? If they haven’t obtained OT3, but then learn it from here, do they really think that shit happened? If so, I don’t see how there’s any hope.

        • pluvo

          AFAIK, only OT3 and above (OSA) are allowed to read the ‘entheta’ sites. The members are also told and scared off (when not being OT3 yet) not to read the Internet as there is OT3 material on it which would damage their case yadda, yadda; I heard this myself.

        • Jimmy3

          I think certain material is off-limits, like the OT3 Wall of Fire. But the true believers certainly do think the articles here are just part of an agenda. From the few I’ve spoken to, they actually believe David Miscavige is a saint. It saddens me.

    • Miscavige Beagles

      how they don’t blow themselves is also a mystery to us. We thoroughly enjoying blowing ourselves and do it regularly

      • mikecrosby

        What is a Miscavige Beagle?

        • Miscavige Beagles

          We are Miscavige’s beagles and when you address us you will salute us and call us sir you CICS DB SP ABC123

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Little clear dogs that must be saluted.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            (See above)

  • jazzlover

    OT: If you haven’t already read Lawrence Wright’s tweet in the upper left of the page, I’d encourage all to do so. We need to be worried now.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      It’s Texas, Jake.

      • jazzlover

        Point?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Texas will do what Texas does. And the rest of us will soldier on.

          • jazzlover

            ok, but last I looked, they haven’t seceded yet.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I am not holding my breath on that one…!

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, but my point is that stupid people exist everywhere, not just in Texas.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              No argument there.

          • Robert Eckert

            In the education field, no, we will all be made to do what Texas does. Is there some way we can expel them from the Union?

    • Frodis73

      Oh no, again?? They went through this awhile back with some nuts on that board selecting textbook content…they even made an awesome doc about it (name escapes me at the moment). The thing is, since TX is such a big buyer, what they put in the books ends up spreading nationwide. This BS infuriates me!!!!

      • jazzlover

        Not only that but these kinds of ideas are not exclusive to Texas.

  • Miscavige Beagles

    We are very disappointed

  • Qbird

    wat!?! http://www.reactiongifs.us/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/winnie_the_pooh_shocked_owl.gif
    gd it – still not gonna stop us from spreading the word.

  • Miscavige Beagles
    • Jimmy3

      Hahhhhh you just gave yourself away.

      Or very cleverly threw me off your scent??? Hmmm

      • Miscavige Beagles

        I gave away nothing. You shut your filthy whore mouth

        • Jimmy3

          *scratches your bellies*

  • Joe

    I was worried this would happen and that they would use their money to muscle out any dissent. I’m so disappointed in Outfront. At least have the stones to say “Sorry, we want their money because it’s more” instead of this vague runaround bullshit. I hope if anything they are called out on this and forced to pick a side. After Going Clear and all of the work Tony has done, no one gets to claim ignorance about what kind of organization Scientology is anymore — you’re either with them or you’re not. If that’s the case, then Outfront needs to say that they don’t care what kind of criminal, immoral activities Scientology engages in as long as the checks keep coming through.

    Also they better not try some content-neutral explanation like Legoland did because I’m damn sure they filter out what kind of organizations they promote. I guarantee they would balk if the KKK or Westboro wanted to put a billboard up.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I know what you mean. However, the cult is so small that many still haven’t heard of it. I was at dinner last night and one person had seen Going Clear – her husband had not. She was shocked by the movie but still asked if these things really happened. And incidentally these are very highly educated and professionally accomplished people.

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    This was totally predictable. Of course Scientology is going to have one of their lawyers send a threatening letter to the billboard company the minute they hear about it. They will do that with any company that plans to run anything anti-Scientology as a routine action. In fact, they may be sending preemptive letters to every billboard company that has signs close to their properties as we speak. Phil has the right idea – contact other billboard companies and find one willing to stand up to Scientology. Their threat tactics are becoming less and less effective.

    Any billboard or advertising company has to be fully briefed that they WILL get a threatening letter. That way there are no surprises. They also should be briefed on the true nature of Scientology and the fact that their threats are largely toothless.

    There are many, many ways this message could be gotten out there. Scientology cannot block them all.

    • Jefferson Hawkins

      And by the way, Tony, your idea of calling the billboard company headquarters as a journalist and asking for an explanation for their decision is brilliant – puts the pressure on them from the other side. I am sure their reaction was knee-jerk – threatening letter = cancel billboard.

      • aegerprimo

        Hmmmm…. I hope you and Tony are emailing/phoning each other on this.
        I think this is such a good story and good example of how the Co$ uses it’s money to buy what it wants and doesn’t want. You have the crazy super bowl commercials, and now this. Such an excellent compare/contrast story.

      • Jimmy3

        It wasn’t really knee-jerk tho. It’s sound business. One client pays hundreds of thousands of dollars over many years, the other is a brand new client looking for only one billboard.

        • So where do they draw the line with playing favorites with customers? Ford vs. Toyota, or somewhere below that?

          • Jimmy3

            The favorite is always the one with the bigger account. There’s no line to draw. It’s business.

            • ze moo

              If those who came in second in that race have enough money, another billboard company will be formed.

          • Jake Hamby

            You bring up an interesting point. I was wondering if a car company could demand that a billboard company not show any ads for competitors’ cars. In that case, you have competitors of equal power to place ads. In this case, the power imbalance between the CoS and their critics is immense, and the critics aren’t participating in capitalism by selling a product or service, so they’re easy to dismiss as “political activists” (or even the dreaded “religious bigots”) instead of valued fellow capitalists.

            • Doc M

              The larger the account (meaning more money), the more powerful they are.
              It’s always about money.

            • CoS is peanuts compared to the Big Boys.

              Playing extreme favorites with clients might keep the largest client of of a particular classification, but would cost them all the lesser clients. That would seem to be a very bad business strategy.

        • Observer

          These days “sound business” is less and less distinguishable from “moral bankruptcy.” Doesn’t matter who you run over as long as you’re making money. Kill the suffering parents’ billboard because the cult inflicting the suffering has more money.

          • Jimmy3

            Observer? More like Lecturer.

            • Observer

              Pffffft

    • stillgrace2

      Yes!

  • aegerprimo

    Here are a couple of ideas….
    (F5 refresh)

    • aegerprimo

      Seriously though… the billboard is the best idea. Any shoops of “ideas” will be forever on the internet. ☺

      • Knusern

        What about ads on busses? They would need to set guards to shoo the others inside or to look the other way everytime a buss drowe past.

        • Knusern

          David silveman would know the company with balls enogh for this ad.

        • OOkpik

          Did this a few days ago. It’s an LA bus.

    • Frodis73

      Blimp!! MissTia will totally love this one.

    • Eileen

      Love it!

  • Frodis73

    I wonder if writing/tweeting to the other companies very nicely and beg them to take Phil account because it is for an important cause if a good idea or bad idea…Phil can’t talk to anybody until Monday am about this. I wonder if bringing it to their attention before that is good or bad.

    • flyonthewall

      just my opinion but I would keep it business and let Sid address it with the particular company as he approaches them.

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    I like when cos advertizes 1,485$ for shared accomodations. Yeah, it’s the basic price, but what amuses me is that it also implies sharing accomodations is ever necessary.

    Of course, no one closes on that price because they get bilked more for privacy and amenities. Unsurprisingly, once they come on ship, probably almost everyone gets a “keep it hush, just for your special self upgrade because someone had a last minute cancellation”. The guests little realizing that the supply/demand value of their room has never been worth 1,485$ to begin with.

    Must.keep.appearances.of.a.busy.and.exclusive.ship.

  • Liberated

    Will the party on the “Freewinds” be serving booze?

    • Doc M

      Sure, but it won’t be an open bar!

  • nottrue
  • jazzlover

    Still think this is worth considering:

    Is it possible to do this billboard thing “second hand” — as in, through a sympathizing company that has some clout, which a billboard company could not possibly turn down? I’m thinking Microsoft or Apple level clout. These are companies that give tons of money to worthy causes, and I’m sure that they would consider this worthy, especially if Scientology is connected to poisoning minds in schools through their front groups. Gates, for instance, gives tons of money to schools around the country. If he (or someone else) can see that scientology is directly working “at odds” to what he’s trying to accomplish, it could send a powerful message.

    • Doc M

      Seriously, Scientology is a small blip in the world of BAD things.(Not to those directly involved of course).
      Gates is trying to spread vaccines world wide. Now we’re talking hundreds of millions or people.

      It’s a size thing.

      • jazzlover

        A small-sized “thing” that just exerted some pretty big weight. I’m just trying to suggest a thing that could easily squash that weight without much effort or care.

        • Doc M

          The only thing I know is lots of money so continuous litigation is not an issue
          or
          some very famous and believed person dying due to narconon leading to a public outrage which the local and state governments couldn’t turn their back on.

          • jazzlover

            Who has more money than Gates?

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)

    Outfront Media’s statement to Tony in full:

    “Bawwwwwwwwk-bawk-bawk-bawk-bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwk!”

    • flyonthewall

      Nobody.calls me. chicken.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        What are you… McFlyonthewall?

        • flyonthewall

          Eivol knows whats up

          • Robert Eckert

            You need to go back in time again and fix it so that Biff isn’t winning the race for President.

          • Eivol Ekdal

            You are my density!

            • flyonthewall

              awkward!

  • JOE BLOW

    Start of Session

    Open your wallet

    Thank you.

    Give me all your cash and credit cards.

    Thank you.

    How do you feel?

    Broke.

    Thank you.

    End of Session

    • Mark Foster

      Indeed, eternity is a commodity. The “way” to ” spiritual salvation” is trademarked and copyrighted
      and has a price list.
      Got it?
      Good, spread those cheeks a bit wider, please.
      Thank you.

      • Doc M

        That means that even when we die, we have to leave money to the church for the privilege?

        Man they got it all covered.

  • Allie

    Joining the Bunker late this morning and am disappointed like everyone else at this turn of events.
    I’ve been worried about the CoS making an attack move since we know OSA (and maybe Davey) reads the Bunker
    and Rinder’s blog and once they knew of Phil’s plan, they would quickly do everything possible to thwart it and contact
    the billboard company and threaten/bribe/insinuate, whatever so that CoS would prevail.

    I am happy that alternative solutions are being recommended and I like many of them.
    I’m wondering whether it’s a good idea really to be discussing them here (as opposed to contacting Sid
    directly) because I fear that OSA will read them and immediately take action–however small an idea,
    they would be on it to again thwart whatever action Phil might take. I don’t mean to dampen anyone’s creativity
    in any way, or maybe I’m just being paranoid about this. But I want this campaign to be successful and
    not let those sneaky bastards win.

    • Juicer77

      Sunlight is the best disinfectant. They want us to hide. Nope, nuh uh. Nothing doing. 🙂

      • Allie

        Indeed it is, Juicer. I was thinking about how to be somewhat secretive about some new plans.

    • SucculentDuck

      agreed, and there are some suggestions that, believe it or not, even OSA has no control over *gasp-shock-horror*

      eta: ;D

      • Allie

        TY. ;D

    • Qbird

      Scn., Inc. does read TUB. This is true.

      • Qbird

        – 30 can’t hide.

    • Susan B.

      Too late now, n’est-ce pas?

      • Allie

        Mais oui for the billboard. But I was thinking of the alternative Plan B suggestions ppl are making

        • Susan B.

          Oh, got it.

  • Elizabeth Lavet

    Bummer about the sign.
    I wonder if you would be willing to sell posters, pumper stickers, etc. I usually don’t put stickers on my car but would put one. Also would like to have a poster to put as a backdrop for YouTube Videos. Don’t know how much of a market there would be, if it would be enough to justify printing costs. Wonder it David Miscavige’s sister, the drug dealer, will make the drug free cruise?

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    As Jimmy3 pointed out earlier, “It’s just business.”

    Well, there are a lot who can play that game.

    What about community and human rights minded businesses pulling their bill board business from Outfront, because they don’t want to be associated in any way with a company who will sell advertising space to a money grubbing, people abusing, science fiction believing and law breakiing cult.

    It’s just business to manage your public image. And if your public image is tarnished by the cult billboards your billboard provider puts up for the cult, then you have a right to change your billboard provider.

    That’s the power of the “invisible hand of the free market.”

    So contacting the other companies that use Outfront as their bill board provider and informing them of Tony’s story here and the situation that their own reputation might be soiled by using the same media, well, who knows what would happen?

  • TheLurkingHorror

    Scientology afraid of a billboard? Is fear on the tone scale? Hey Scientology, did you know cowards and criminals are afraid of the truth?

    • flyonthewall

      THEY CAN’T HANDLE THE TRUTH!

      • TheLurkingHorror

        Ain’t that the truth. 🙂

  • Eileen

    I think there are lots of even better locations, how about next to the HOLLYWOOD sign ;)?

    • SucculentDuck

      i like your style, but each of those letters are over 30ft tall (meaning the sign would have to be HUGE) … and the whole area is fenced in and technically off limits to trespassers

    • They should a proper restoration on that sign.
      ..

      • Eileen

        Great photo.

  • Elizabeth Lavet

    I wonder if David Miscavige’s twin sister will be on the drug free cruise?

  • Rita G

    Argh!

  • flyonthewall

    This billboard deal seems like it was off the record, on the QT and very hush hush

    • MrsLurksALot

      Come to Los Angeles! The sun shines bright, the beaches are wide and inviting, and the orange groves stretch as far as the eye can see. There are jobs aplenty, and land is cheap. Every working man can have his own house, and inside every house, a happy, all-American family. You can have all this, and who knows… you could even be discovered, become a movie star… or at least see one. Life is good in Los Angeles… it’s paradise on Earth.” Ha ha ha ha. That’s what they tell you, anyway.

      • Doc M

        The brown haze covering the entire valley is also very pretty.

        • Susan B.

          So easy to get around on foot, bike or public trans. Who needs a car when you live in LA?

          • Techie

            I dunno Susan, must be some reason, maybe people have to get to work on time? http://www.insidesocal.com/tomhoffarth/files/2014/11/o-405-FREEWAY-facebook-1024×512.jpg Still it is not as bad as it was in the 80s. Emissions controls have done some good.

            • Always Amazed

              I remember the days of “smog alerts” and you couldnt go outside to play while at school. I also remember not being able to breath deep without coughing when the smog was bad. That situation no longer exists, thank goodness…it is much better than it ever was before…fwiw

            • Susan B.

              I live five miles from work. Takes 10 min when there’s no traffic and 35 when there is. I’m in SF Bay Area. I could never deal with daily traffic in LA.

          • Doc M

            Even if you need to use a car, there is so little traffic that you can easily get from one place to another in 2 hours.

      • Techie

        “Santa Monica Blvd.! We love it!” Soon as I got out of the Sea Org it was good bye, LA, no regrets. But your mileage may vary… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtDhtadoeUk

  • flyonthewall

    Fuck you, I’m going to Hollywood

    • SucculentDuck

      i’ll let El Compadre know they need to stock up on their secret margarita mix and taco fixinz

      • flyonthewall

        table for two. The name’s Snake

  • flyonthewall

    This is the city of angels, and you haven’t got any wings you stupid cult

    • my mind automatically translated that last word with a different letter 😀

  • pat k

    Sad day in bunkerville….we shall get on with it though….this is a place of strength & courage.

    • Doc M

      There is always a way, it’s just a temporary setback

  • mikecrosby

    Well, if I could show my support by wearing that as a Tshirt, I’d be more than happy.

    • Susan B.

      Bumperstickers?

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Stay positive, everyone! The billboard will go up, just not where Phil and Willie initially intended. Everything happens for a reason so I expect we will discover in time that the original billboard had woodworm.

    • Newiga

      Hear, hear!! However, I have to admit that I toyed with the idea of buying a ticket to LA and recreating the billboard in graffiti on Big Blue’s biggest wall.

      I kid, OSA! I prefer huge billboards high up where everyone can see it. 😛

  • OOkpik

    Come on Outfront!
    It’s past time to be UPFRONT with your client, Phil Jones!

  • Hamtaro

    I wonder how many billboards Scientology committed to in order to get Phil’s contract revoked?

    Hollywood can look forward to seeing a lot of idiotic “who am I?” billboards in the near future.

    • ze moo

      The ‘who am I’ tv ad has been shown for the last 2 weeks in Buffalo NY on the 5 o’clock news. The clams are getting their mileage on that one. My only question about that is; who messed up enough to be made to pay for that run?

    • Allie

      Maybe the general public will be sick of seeing the Scn billboards and they’ll start tweeting
      their disgust like many did after seeing the superbowl V ad.

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    Just noticed something:

    Admin actions in running a group, including the org board for the group and hats.

    If only they knew the chilling effect of that sentence. The last knownperson who touched an org board hasn’t been seen in 10 years

  • Jeb Burton

    Put it up here in Clearwater. We are the land of the tacky billboard. I am happy that DM is so concered that he would contact CBS media. He must of threatened that he would remove all of his billboards. There are plenty of billboard companies. They are surprisingly expensive.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    The latest from Jonny Jacobsen in Brussels:

    “HUMAN TRAFFICKING – The judge in the Belgian trial of Scientology condemned the treatment of job applicants who had worked at the Brussels Church for weeks in the hope of getting paid.”

    https://www.byline.com/project/28/article/877

    • Doc M

      Church isn’t doing too well, are they!

      Like children getting caught in lies and trying to worm their way out stumbling etc.

      Thanks for the continual postings from Belgium.

    • Frodis73

      I love this, it’s getting hotter by the minute! How these idiots just lie and lie and lie is crazy. I would so love to talk to this judge about this BS going on.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Ooh la la.

        “Judge Régimont cited another case: this time of a woman who had worked at the Church for 18 days in the hope of being paid, but in the end never was.

        “That is called human trafficking, Madame!””

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Holy crap! Can we appoint this judge to our US Supreme Court vacancy, please? ; )

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            It’s so different to the English and American way of conducting a trial, isn’t it? I find it fascinating 🙂

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              It really is. I’m fascinated, and also a little bit envious.

            • Ben Franklin

              It is great because the judges do their research in order to be able to ask the right questions.

            • dchoiceisalwaysrs

              Yes , truly fascinating. Yet, at the same time the constant attempts by the defendants to weasel out of any responsibility is utterly revolting. I didn’t catch if the courtroom is open to non-participants who would get to see the sick conning operating methods of scientology executives, and in a courtroom at that. Just imagine the real extent of BS that the victims suffered through.

        • Bunker Buggy Betsy

          I love Judge Régimont.
          If only the USA would quit giving Scientology a free ride! He sees through their greased weasel tactics!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Oh, man, I have got to catch up on my Byline reading. Thanks for the reminder, Betts!

    • JOE BLOW

      No bullshit cult legal tactics going on in that courtroom. They’re getting hit with a sledgehammer.

      • An inquisatorial legal system (in which the judge examines the evidence, and even has to power to direct the police to investige matters that catch his attention) has its drawbacks. However Scientology’s SOP is totally impotent when it has to face the facts of the case, rather than hide behind legal technicalities and delaying tactics.

        They are going down.

    • salin

      Why do I not prepare myself not to be shocked? Oh, right. Scientology – always more shocking than you can imagine.

      I am thankful that Jonny Jacobsen is documenting this trial so that it lives on beyond the court documents.

  • This disappointment seems to demonstrate, once again, that the only influence the CofS has depends on their money.

    Was the billboard company intimidated by hollow threats of legal action, did they decide that the risk of being punished with a ‘dirty tricks’ campaign was not worth the bother, or were they just unwilling to offend a better customer.?

    Judging by their reluctance to explain their actions, we will never know. However, the fact that they reneged on a contract after they had entered into it, suggests that something happened to change their minds…

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Goddamn it, this is such disheartening news. As others have already observed, it sounds like Outfront Media didn’t want to piss off a longstanding client–especially one with a litigious nature, deep pockets, and a vindictive streak. I guess that’s a good business decision, but I still think they’re a sack of pussies.

    Anyway, I’m sure there will be other ways to get this message out there. The billboard’s so perfect, though, because of the audience (hard to reach through other communication channels) and the fact that they need to see a message like this multiple times to cut through the mental and emotional fog. My project teams have used palm cards and shoe cards (basically just small business cards that can be easily hidden) in campaigns around sensitive topics like HIV and pregnancy testing, when the target audience is skittish and discretion is paramount. I know that human trafficking outreach campaigns use these, too. The hardest part is actually getting them in the hands (literally) of the people who need them.

    Phil and Willie, please keep us posted and let us know if you need additional support. My initial donation was paltry. You can reg me for more, I’m good for it. And I’m staying positive for you!

    • Doc M

      Only a setback, there’s always a way.

    • Umm… CoS’s billboard account is a flyspeck compared any pizza chain or Outfront’s signage total. I don’t think they really have the leverage to play the “we’ll pull our account!” tactic.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I actually didn’t assume the CoS necessarily did anything proactive, like threaten. I assumed the company did some sort of risk-benefit ratio and decided based on a number of factors–including the ones I mentioned above–that this campaign wasn’t worth the potential hassle.

  • Royce Harlow

    Sadness and anger.
    I know though deep inside that the billboard will come up somewhere, someday and do its intended job.
    Keep going Phil and Willie. We’re behind you all the way.

  • TOT: Took a short video of the Idiot Squirrel Brothers in action chasing each other and sort of wrestling. Was in the house, so vid is thru the glass (that needs cleaned) and screen. They do this all the time, just chase each other up and down the trees, over the fences, thru the woods yard, etc and then sort of wrestle.

    https://youtu.be/1zS1clep0Oc

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      They’re having so much fun 🙂

      • They’re like that all the time!! I think their roommate got sick of their shenanigans cuz he’s not with them all the time now. He prefers to do full time ‘squirrel things’ such as eating suet, nuts and seems to not like playing tag and wrestling all day long.

  • outraged

    Mr. Marty Rathburn has a new post:
    https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2016/03/05/culture-of-complaint/
    ***adding no extra rue***

    • Observer

      It would be helpful if he’d identify who that’s directed toward, because it certainly appears to be directed toward someone.

      • flyonthewall

        No it doesn’t sound tinfoil at all. I think he’s aiming at Tony and critics for criticizing Sci and not having anything to replace it or fix it. As if that failed abortion of a cult needs a substitute or there will be some horrible vacuum left if the cult were to collapse

        • Observer

          That’s how I read it at first, but on reading it again saw he could very well be directing it at Scientology and their persecution complex.

          • flyonthewall

            That’s very interesting, I didn’t consider that at all. We are prob both right as he very likely sees critics and pro-sci’s as two sides of the same coin which would let this post be applicable to both camps. Him taking this kind of high minded psychobabble zen road would be right up his alley.

            • outraged

              It’s hard not to believe Marty is being intentionally obtuse.

            • flyonthewall

              he is, desperately so

            • Or his thinking is so vague and disorganised that it just comes out that way.

              It’s kind of an advantage for him. Since nobody can quite sure what he is trying to say (even him) there is a lot of room for interpretation – so much, that he can never be clearly shown to be wrong. That worked a lot for Hubbard too.

              If you can’t say what you mean, you can’t mean what you say.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        ..

        • Observer

          <3

        • aegerprimo

          ♥ SO CUTE ♥

    • Frodis73

      Sigh. It’s such a pity that James Hollingsworth is out of the church, but still clinging to lrh like a life saver. Yeah, james, the psychs were totally with Hubbard until he started bad mouthing them. wtf? Blinders.
      As for Marty, I just don’t have a clue.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      His 7th grade guessing games bore me. Man up and talk straight.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Well, gee fucking whiz, Marty.
      Rue me a fucking river.
      Having devoted most of your adult life to a cult
      which can only survive through “us versus Wogs” thinking,
      I’m delighted you see a blatant truism.

      Sweet Xenu in a fucking manger, but you need to drop the blog
      and hie thee to a therapist.
      You are one vainglorious mother!

      • flyonthewall

        Marty has some kind of Messiah-Savior complex. He needs to be on some big sacred mission or life is just boring to him. First it was saving his brother. Then it was saving the planet. Now it’s saving Scientology. He thought he would step away from this last mission but I guess he just couldn’t. Life with his wife and child, so boring and mundane. Guess it just wasn’t a big enough game for him.

      • daisy

        Delusions of grandeur – He is not relevant to either side, so he has to make a new side. He just doesn’t realize no one cares. (What great usage of the word Hie.)

      • Doc M

        Marty is definitely an enigma.

        I still don’t know the reason for his attack against Tony which seemed to come from left field, yet his blog speaking out polarization is very true as that’s what’s happening at the moment in the presidential campaign. The point being, taking a side, but not know why you’re taking that side. Emotion but no thinking. It’s not a new thing either as during the Vietnam War, the saying “America, love it or leave it” was the same. Blindly supporting the war or some bizarre notion that if you’re against it, you don’t love the country.

        Anyway how do you love a country, a geopolitical place with invisible lines. You can love the geography, love different groups of people etc but a country. Crazy

        Pan, your last paragraph starting with Sweet Xenu sums it up. He’s not totally there!

        • Doc M

          As an addendum, why is he even blogging about this? Maybe, he feels its relevant, which it is, as his time in the church was a perfect example of polarization without thinking. I guess that must be his reason.

        • daisy

          Marty is no enigma, he is a run of the mill egocentric asshole. He can only aspire to be an enigma.

          • Doc M

            Don’t jump to that conclusion yet Daisy, we still don’t know the why’s of the court case or what’s really going on or what was he thinking when he blasted Ortega. Something is missing!

            • JOE BLOW

              We can only pray to Xenu you are right.

            • Doc M

              Me right…lol, I’m just another opinionated asshole from NY…opinionated being the operative word.

            • daisy

              I realize we do not know the details of the court case. I simply do not care. I wish none of us waste any more pondering – what is he thinking? I wonder why? His relevance is only important in the scheme of his first hand knowledge. He is out of attention. There is no one squirreling him, looking up to him, paying attention. His best bet was to be an ally, apparently that is not enough. I have had enough of someone who knows an organization is evil and then continues it*s practice. I would be more than happy to listen to his wife. If that is not an example of marrying up I don*t know what is.

            • Doc M

              I agree it’s a waste of time trying to understand him, I also believe it’s a waste of time to waste perfectly good “hate” “pun”s, “jokes” etc on him.

              There are a trillion blogs and vlogs out there. We are all essayists and journalists in a sense. Best to read what’s interesting or relevant to us, pass on the rest and try not to jump to conclusions. Just my own opinion…and I don’t even write a blog.

            • daisy

              I agree with all of your statements. I wasn’t trying to be critical of anyone*s interest. I will be the first to read all about it. I am expressing my opinion that he is not worthy of our interest. That said there are millions of stories on the news not worthy of attention but get it any way. The whole reality t.v. is based on it. I am just disgusted with his silly grade 5 games.

            • Doc M

              O/T
              For what it’s worth, I also love Beagles, had them as a kid and throughout my life, but I had to put my last one who was not quite 6 down due to metastatic liver cancer. No more Beagles for me… too much inbreeding leads to too much heartbreak. It’s now mutts, they tend to live longer and are healthier. Polly in the avatar is just as sweet, doesn’t inhale her food and can actually be let off the leash to run and she immediate comes back when I call. To me that last thing is mind-blowing.

            • daisy

              Yes I have always thought they were cute too. I just didn’t realize what a handful they were . I have admired Polly before. Can we exchanged dogs? I have no particular preference in breed. I try to adopt aged dogs with manageable medical problems.( it is my charity work, without the work) Fat beagle was just one of 4 dogs available in our small town. The other was a jack russel and I heard a crazy busy breed. I love my girl, I am just a lousy parent. I am more bemused by her antics which doesn’t help to discourage her. I have always said it was a good thing I didn’t have kids, because they would be robbing banks by the time they were 3.

      • JOE BLOW

        You do have a way with words!

      • Vaquera

        I logged back in just to tally an upvote, my friend.
        In true fashion, well said. xo

    • JOE BLOW

      Scientology is an evil organization. I am against them with every fiber of my being. Their downfall will make the world a better place. I vs. them. Is that OK with you Marty?

      And no, it’s not a requirement of my existence that I engage in an us versus them mentality.

      • daisy

        up arrows – this

      • ithilien

        Maybe im misreading it, but doenst he say no war, then destroy them utterly? Wtf is he saying. His writing is pretentious.

    • For fuck’s sake Marty, grow some balls and say what you mean directly without a word salad and passive aggressive vague statements. You might rue the day you burned bridges and then tossed napalm on ’em and proceeded to embark on a scorched earth policy.

      You have a beautiful wife and child, be a man for them. If you need help other than holding ‘cans’, there’s no shame in getting it. You’ve lived decades of hell; people understand that. When you start lobbing shit at them though, a lot of empathy gets washed away with the dirty clothes.

    • On the same page is a image of Tom Cruise and Miscavige together, with the caption, “Click image for NBC today Re Scientology wiretapping.” It leads to a video of an interview with Marty in which he admits wiretapping Nicole Kidmans’ phone “[…] after being ordered to do so by a superior”.

      If he’s looking for a settlement with Miscavige, that’s probably not the best way to placate him. What on Earth does he think he’s up to?

  • You can TWEET Outfront Media your thoughts on cancelling the contract
    https://twitter.com/outfrontmediaus

    • Always connecting, except when they are not.

    • Doc M

      Unfortunately I think it would do as much as that Legoland fiasco with Jenna.

      • Not that it would “DO” something, but that Outfront Media experienced the backlash of sentiments.

      • ithilien

        You know, just as an outsider, i have to say that i Have seen this avoidance characteristic as a response to other issues. I think its ingrained in scientologists to give up. Karen is absolutely right to say the media company should get some feedback.

        • Doc M

          Sorry but it’s premature, we don’t know that there was any breach and the company could have well been within their rights to cancel if a conflict arose. They are a large company with attorneys who write specifically worded contracts for their protection.

          I’m also sure it’s a large contract (just my office contract is 27 pages).

          Should Phil take up another donation to hire an attorney to peruse his contract to see if there was a breach?

          I still think the thing to do is to move on and find another billboard.

          • Enturbulated Masterbator

            Phil has a copy of the contract…he said as much. You are correct that it’s Phil’s choice.

            • Doc M

              My point was that until we know all the facts, it’s pointless to hastily attack the company as a gut reaction. /As for now, there are plenty of Billboards and best to move on, especially since money is an issue for Phil.

          • Robert Eckert

            He doesn’t need to hire an attorney. There are plenty of attorneys right here on this board. There is no reason to take it for granted that the company was “well within their rights”: it certainly doesn’t sound like it, so let’s look and see. You are indeed showing an atttitude of pre-emptive surrender.

            • Doc M

              True, but it’s also not to be taken for granted that the company didn’t have clauses in the contract to protect themselves for these types of problems. They are a large company and these issues arise frequently.
              The point being not to jump and become hostile as a gut reaction. We need all the details first.

            • Robert Eckert

              ” it’s also not to be taken for granted that the company didn’t have clauses” Nothing should be taken for granted either way. We should LOOK and SEE what the contract says.

            • Doc M

              Robert, large companies have very specific contracts. They’re not stupid.
              My 1200 sq ft office has a 27 page lease, and that’s small time.

              My point, sure look but don’t get side tracked on petty issues, move on.

            • Robert Eckert

              Your first several comments were devoted to saying we shouldn’t bother to look. The behavior they exhibited here is not typical of how large companies in general, or this company in particular, have acted in other cases. As a matter of contract law, it cannot be the case that their “contract” imposes no obligations on their side whatsoever: a one-sided agreement of that kind is not a contract.

            • Doc M

              True, but they can certainly have clauses that allow either side to nullify the contract in certain situations.

            • Robert Eckert

              So far they have not asserted that there was any situation justifying their nullification of the contract. They’ve just said: nope, we’re not honoring our contract and we won’t say why. Stop trying to tell me that’s normal.

            • Doc M

              If what you say is true, you’re missing the point of this whole thing…the goal is to get a Poster up on a billboard, not to fight with a Billboard company.

            • Robert Eckert

              The two are not mutually exclusive. And if there is some magic clause in these contracts that means you can’t rely on getting your billboard put up, it is important to become educated about what it is.

        • Doc M

          About what? That they cancelled a contract. Perhaps they were well within their rights. We don’t know.

          Secondly, as far as the contract goes, it’s none of our business nor are they obligated to allow anyone to read it, except for the parties involved and their attorneys with their written permission.

          So what kind of feedback?
          Q Why did you cancel the contract?
          A None of your business

          S We’re not happy you cancelled the contract
          A Too bad,

          Q Did Scientology threaten you?
          A I told you to mind your own business

          Q We want to see the contract..ok?
          A File a claim with the civil court and than get a subpoena.

          Q We’re not happy as the Church is evil
          A Grow up and go to the cops.

          Q You’re supporting a corrupt institution.

          A This is a business, we’re not your moral policing unit.

          • Robert Eckert

            “Q We want to see the contract..ok?

            A File a claim with the civil court and than get a subpoena.” Phil already has the contract.

            • Doc M

              I realize that, the post is about demnding a copy from the Billboard company.

            • Robert Eckert

              We don’t need to demand a copy from them. Phil has a copy. If Phil was made to sign without reading and then was not allowed to have a copy, that is seriously fraudulent conduct.

  • Observer

    I’m guessing this “exposé” doesn’t mention children of or minor Sea Orgers.

    refresh

  • Bert Allen

    I would request the posting of the contract between Outfront Media and Phil Jones. I am pretty good at determining if a breach of contract has occurred. Maybe Outfront Media should change its name to Slinking Out the Back Door Media.

    • Doc M

      Why in the world would they provide you (meaning Tony or interested parties) a contract? What’s the point. Is Phil going to hire an attorney to file a lawsuit if a breach occured. He had to get the money for the billboard by donations. Money is better spent moving on.

      Why even assume there was a breach? Large companies are careful to cover situations and have contigencies written into the contracts anyway.

      I think the best thing is to just move on, there are other Billboard companies in the L.A. area. This is not the end of the world.

      • Bert Allen

        Perhaps. Perhaps not.

      • ithilien

        Because if you have a contract and the other party backs out, you look at the comtract. You might not be able to change this contract, but you might learn something. For the future. I Dont think bert is making any kind of statement re anything except the contract should be reviewed. Makes perfect sense.

      • Enturbulated Masterbator

        What would it hurt? It’s the incremental exposure that changes lives and events sometimes. No need to sue but always a need to disclose facts.

        • Doc M

          It Wouldn’t hurt but if Phil wants to put a billboard up it’s best to move forward and not make a fuss. Find another company.

          Longer term, the company can be investigated to see if they did or didn’t break the contract.

          I don’t remember reading where Phil said that the broke the contract illegally. Did h?

          • Enturbulated Masterbator

            He didn’t say illegally broken but at least a summary investigation would determine that. Illegal or not I think a little fuss is good and at same time he can explore other options.

            • Doc M

              That’s the thing, everybody in the bunker is assuming it was illegally broken, I’ve been saying, slow down we don’t know.

    • Frodis73

      They didn’t keep his money, so I don’t see how that could be a breach as I am sure there is some clause in there that they can pull out…they are a big comp not some mom and pop shop.

      • Bert Allen

        Probably, but more knowledge is almost always better than less knowledge.

        • ithilien

          People do make assumptions here dont they? And tolerate a lot.

          • Bert Allen

            Yes. I think it is the nature of the blogosphere. Overall, Bunkerites are very intelligent and good people. We don’t mind honest discourse, even when assumptions are a major part of it.

      • 3feetback-of-COS

        Even if they gave back the money, they still didn’t honor the contract.

        • OOkpik

          It’s the Client they didn’t honou

  • Always Amazed

    What a bunch of bullshit. And while this totally sucks, I have full faith in the power of the bunker and this will end up being a giant foot bullet for COS/DM.

    Tick tock DM

  • Always Amazed

    LA Times needs to run this story.

    • they probably won’t….aren’t they pussies?

      • Always Amazed

        Often yes, a girl can hope and badger.

        • boys can too! 😀 so we ALL can!!!

      • I have done a little research, and there is no doubt in my mind there is a safepointer either in the LAT or with influence over them of some sort.

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          Safepointing is what OSA does everyday. Although in this case it may well be another aspect of their ‘dead agenting’ activities going even further back than the ST Pete times IIRC. What lies they use to promote, what lies of libel and slander they use is not an issue for them as they are at war with their membership, their neighbours and even their governments. SAme as it always was with their conniving paranoid megalomanical narcissistic criminal founder. Their goal is a planet cleared of all opposition and their establishment of a distopian government I will leave out the policy quotes from which they operate their political party, but they are targeting and doing whatever they can in businesses and even the legistative, judicial and executive arm of all levels of government…internationally.

    • Doc M

      Ya know, what’s big news in the bunker is not always big news in the real world. The real world is a whole lot bigger and less black and white than here.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I’ve thought of some alternate ideas…

    I first thought of asking or commissioning Lego artist Ai Weiwei to create a “disconnection” piece to add to his Human Rights and Freedom of Expression exhibit. (refresh http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-3397267/Ai-says-Lego-policy-change-victory-freedom-expression.html)

    That morphed into wondering if “Bunker Lego Artiste” Fly would be able to recreate the billboard out of Legos and then having that exhibited in the LA area.

    Then I remembered the AIDS quilt. It was very powerful and moving and was created by folks to honor those victims they loved and to demonstrate their anger against AIDS and the need to stop it. How about creating a “Disconnection Quilt”? Loved ones would create a panel for each person whom the CO$ has ripped out of their lives. The panels would be brought together to form the large quilt and then have it displayed.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      In case someone is unfamiliar with it, here is a photo of the AIDS Quilt.

      http://abcnews.go.com/images/Technology/ht_aids_memorial_quilt_microsoft_lpl_120724_wblog.jpg

      • daisy

        I would love to see this thing together and in person. It is so big it would take a day and a stadium by now.

    • People with disconnected loved ones or loved ones lost (passed) due to scienotlogy could wear a heart with the center out. A heart pin with basically a heart shape cut out within it.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I’m all for some kind of guerrilla art or installation, as long as it’s in a place where current members would have access to it. I remember seeing the AIDS quilt in the mid-90s, traveling from my college campus to DC when it was displayed on The Mall. It was incredibly powerful.

      • Frodis73

        The AIDS quilt was very powerful and it’s a great idea. It would really only work for raising awareness among the public though, like you said. It’s not like the church would let us come display it to the SO.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          For the initial “event” the panels could be attached end to end with velcro (instead of in blocks) with folks holding them as they stand on the sidewalk near the CO$. Hollywood allows this and the CO$ even displays their crap on Hollywood sidewalks. It could stretch across as many blocks as needed.

          • Frodis73

            I like that idea, a lot.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Can anyone tell me how to cut and paste from a Word doc into a comment here?

    • Observer

      Select the text, Ctrl+C, click in the comment box, Ctrl+V.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Thanks Obs. Much appreciated!

        • Observer

          Anytime!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Dumb question. I don’t think I’ve used up my daily quota yet. Why V? Why not P? Why? Why?

        • Observer

          Ctrl+ P is print. And C and V are next to each other on the keyboard, so my guess is they thought it would be easy to remember.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thank you! Well at least that makes Some sense. I have always wondered and always forgot to ask. Another techno mystery solved.

        • PickAnotherID

          C = Copy, V = View, P = Print

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          Partly because eons ago Unix created v = verbatim.

        • Because ‘P’ was already used for ‘print’ before cut and paste became a standard feature.

        • Robert Eckert

          My guess was that V was like the “caret” mark for insertions (back when editing was done with red pen on paper)

  • BraveBloggers

    Phil and Willie – You know what just happened? This act of Billboard elitism has motivated me to give more than I did before. If CoS was behind this it had the effect, for me at least, to inspire MORE attention and MORE money to make this happen. And once the billboard is obtained — to stay up longer.

    Just letting you know you can count on me for more in the monetary and support departments whenever you need it.

  • Observer

    You know what? I’m going to.

    From Marty’s new blog post:

    “The Op Ed posits that our society has become infantilized by its progressive drift toward embracing promoters of complaint, particularly those who peddle in nothing but complaint. They are not hard to identify provided one retains some degree of objectivity. They offer no solutions or alternative vision. Instead, they capitalize on engendering ‘us vs. them’ mentality. The solution to all of us’ complaints is the destruction of them.”

    This argument, while absolutely spot-on when applied to people who whine and complain about how things are without lifting a finger to help change them, is utterly irrelevant when dealing with an entity like Scientology which actively enslaves, ruins (mentally, financially, healthwise) and outright kills human beings. Scientology’s destructive doctrines are much of the very foundation on which it was built–take, say, KSW away, and it’s not Scientology anymore.

    Scientology is like a fire engulfing a high-rise building, consuming people’s lives. Are the firemen going to stand around criticizing the residents for not offering solutions, or are they going to lay their very lives on the line to destroy that fire and save the people in the building?

    Or maybe Scientology is like that chimp which a few years ago attacked his owner’s friend and literally tore her face and hands off. I’m pretty sure nobody was asking the victim what solutions she could offer so the chimp wouldn’t have to be destroyed.

    Scientology was destructive from its very inception. It cannot be rehabilitated and still be Scientology.

    The only ethical response to a meat grinder like Scientology is to stop it, up to and including, if I may quote Ron, “destroying [it] utterly” through both legal means and exposing the rotting monster under the flashy skin for all the world to see.

    • aegerprimo
    • JOE BLOW

      That first paragraph sounds to me like a strategy perhaps behind some kind of settlement he’s made with the cult. The strategy being he step back from his rabid criticisms and settle into a “Can’t we all just get along” attitude, so as not to raise too much suspicion that he’s made a deal with the devil.

      He’s gone from DM is the devil to sitting in some ivory tower sounding like some kind of Guru who is giving us all clues to the truths of the universe.

      • ithilien

        Yeah but he actually says the opposite, that it must be utterly destroyed.

        • JOE BLOW

          I don’t think he’s referring to Scientology, but just that “us” and “them” are both bent on mutual destruction, in the general “us” and “them” mentality of society.

          • ithilien

            Yeah but then he promotes the destruction of scientology, doesnt he? so i presume hes talkimg abuot an us vs them thing happening. Im confused!!!

            This all relates to thest middle road buddhist shit, (one of his previous blog posts) which is nothing but a failure to form an opinion, make a judgement and stand up for it.

            • Susan B.

              The Buddha would be more inclined to take the above and around and all over and is the road Buddhist shit The shit being welcomed on the journey.

    • noseinabk

      “engendering ‘us vs. them”
      Would that be like engendering an us vs sp mentality between a mother and her children Marty?
      Big talk from guy who consistently provokes divide because he believes he is the only authority worth listening to when it comes to cos.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It’s gotten so convoluted up in that highfalutin’ cloud of his, I’m strangely rooting for the chimp in this story.

      http://i.imgur.com/UY8y88d.jpg

      • Observer

        I just can’t even. I’m still holding out hope that this is a only bump in the road on his journey out.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          *sigh* There’s just no substitute for professional mental health help. It’s never too late, it just gets harder. I’m rootin’ for the kid. 🙂

        • daisy

          I was very harsh down thread about Marty. I really did not consider that this is part of the recovery process. I guess because he has been out for quite a while. I forget that recovery is individual. I hope he figures it out for his loved ones sake.

          • JOE BLOW

            Feel the same way. Sometimes my emotions get the better of me.

    • Kim O’Brien

      ” and then we dropped the court case “

      • Kim O’Brien

        also , pretty sure that at a certain point – ya just let the fucking building burn to the ground . the fire burns itself out and there is nothing left . Until of course …someone comes right behind the fire , while the embers are still hot ..and puts fresh fuel . Like an arsonist

        ( and yes ..that is symbolism for ” indie scientology ” )

    • Ah… but (now that Marty can envisage myself assuming power again, in the Independent CofS) that was the corporate CofS, run by a corrupt leader (whom he once obeyed without question) who has ‘corrupted the tech’ so that it no longer works.

      Real Scientology (which only Marty – who is a ‘technical expert, don’t you know – can provide) is something completely different.

      Marty, whom people once thought was distancing himself from Scientology, was really only engaged in a ‘religious’ war. Like most conflicts of this nature, it only claims to be about doctrine. It’s really about power. Marty wants his back, and hates the man who deprived him off it as much as Miscavige hates him.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Watching some of the videos Tony has posted in the last few days and then reading the bad news today about Sid and Willie’s billboard prompted me to look for some perspective. Despite the billboard setback, the fact remains that Scientology is killing itself by the harm it inflicts on families through disconnection and a host of other hostile actions. Here’s why:

    10 Reasons Scientology’s Hostility To Families Is Bringing Its Demise

    1) Coercing abortions on your elite members. How incredibly shortsighted can you be if you want your group to survive and grow?

    2) Prohibiting your most dedicated members from having children. Repeat: How will your group survive and grow with such a low birth rate?

    3) Fostering a snitch culture that requires children to tattle on their siblings and parents and vice
    versa by writing “knowledge reports” on each other that will be kept in files for later blackmailing purposes. You
    really think fostering such a monstrous culture of chronic fear that turns loved ones against each other will benefit your group in the end?

    4) Cruelly breaking apart families through forced disconnection because one family member may be having
    doubts about the group, may no longer be involved, or may have exercised their right to speak out against its deceptions and abuses. Despite all your blustering about the confront and super powers of homo novis, how fragile are these hyped abilities if Scientologists can’t be trusted to withstand a simple doubt or criticism
    from someone they love?

    5) Indoctrinating members to regard children as merely age-old adults in children’s bodies and thereby disregarding their developmental needs for love, attachment, physical touch, and parental guidance in the critical years of their childhood. How cold, calculating and ironically counterproductive can you be by inculcating this nonsensical doctrine in your members?

    6) Preventing members who work for you for pennies from spending quality time with their children by
    requiring them to work an absurd number of hours each week that preclude them from even seeing their children awake most nights—all for the latest arbitrary event or other superfluous deadline that is made to appear more important than their lives and the lives of their children. Do you really think this won’t come back to haunt you in the future when your members realize you’ve stolen one of the most precious parts of their
    lives and they can never get it back?

    7) Denigrating or totally disregarding the importance of a good education and competence in reading, writing and STEM subjects…what to speak of a college education. You really think it’s such a bright idea for $cientology’s future to have a completely uneducated membership?

    8) Forcing children of those working for you for pennies to go through security checks before they
    are allowed to visit relatives over the holidays or at other special times just to make sure they won’t try to escape while they are away. Any chance you might one day cognite that that might engender ever continuing lonlieness, antagonism and disaffection within the ranks eventually causing more and more members to leave?

    9) Spending as little as you possibly can on $cientology nurseries or schools, underscoring how very little you really think of children and the importance of caring for, nurturing and educating them. Is that your idea of investing in the future of $cientology?

    10) Doing everything in your power to steal their dreams by making sure the children of $cientologists pine only for joining the sea org or staff and invalidating them for even considering going to college or otherwise pursuing their own talents and dreams. You seriously think this is a winning strategy for your future cultural hegemony?

    Scientology, your actions undermining families appear to reveal that you have a death wish on the third dynamic.

    • madame duran

      Most excellent post.

    • In the past, this was all fuctional. It enabled the CofS to obtain complete commitment from members and drain them of all their resources (both cash money and free labour) as quickly and efficiently as possible, and discard them the moment they became a liability.

      This worked because there were always more innocent recuits, vulnerable to Scientology’s high-pressure tactics. Scientologys incredible income (which Hubbard was obsessed with) is based on:

      a) A very high turnover of members, constantly replacing those with no more to give with ‘fresh meat’ with healthy bank accounts
      b) Preventing members having any personal relationships which might distact from Scientology (especially with their children. Policy was to prevent those being born in the first place, or warehouse them, call it a ‘school’, and charge members for the ‘privilige’.

      Since the rise of the Internet, information about the reality of Scientology is freely available, and the CofS is unable to suppress it as they once did. Recruitment has apparantly collapsed, and the avarage age of members continues to rise.

      However, the ‘high turnover’ tactic is built into every aspect of Scientology – including all of things you describe.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Really interesting point Once Born.

        • Thank you.

          This seems to be the only explanation for why an organisation should have such self-destructive policies and yet still be able to survive.Like everything else, it’s a throwback to a 50s con.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Alrighty then. Maybe we could help the city and the unemployed with one gesture. Hire them to be walking digital ad boards to walk up and down the sidewalks just by the orgs. The city could give themselves a pat on the back by promoting it in the media, the unemployed can get some funds while still able to look for work.

    If you hired two persons at $75 each, per day, they could work for 2 months for $9,000 and whatever the cost of the billboards would be. If Scientology wants to buy these unemployed off, fabulous! Then you just hire the next unemployed in line to fill in their spots. Hey, we could employ all of L.A.’s unemployed if Scientology wants to play long and hard – and we all know how Scientology loves to play games. Of course, we’d have to include in materials expenses the GoPro cams they will need to wear at all times.

    • ithilien

      You’re a genius!!! And im not just sayimg that because i sort f said the same thing 3 hours later, before reading this. Some kimd of gentle street performance. There have to be pleanty of oow actors who could do a street performance.

      • Susan B.

        Actors yes and how about volunteers each taking a one or two hour shift?

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Fabulous idea! Never seen this before but I’m all in without any hesitation.

  • salin

    Gentle reminder to ‘recommend’ today’s post and discussion. It’s like a meta-upvote.

    I share another ‘like’ of mine – following the Aurora skycam in Tromso, Norway (reportedly one of the best places to spot aurora’s in Europe) – which will go dark (turned off) for six months some time this month. Tromso is in the arctic circle – which means for about 6 weeks of the year the sun does not rise above the horizon (really dark), and for 6 weeks, the sun doesn’t go below the horizon (really light.) So while the cam is still on – any day that it shows activity, I will share it as a reminder to consider ‘liking’/recommending the days post.

    It’s faint – but active. It’s a live cam, so the link will lead to a different image depending on when you click it. http://www.virtualtromso.no/en/northern-lights/138-live-northern-lights-activity-and-forecast.html

    Here is a photo from earlier today in Manitoba, Canada: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=123256&PHPSESSID=f38mfopsa4300oqsdvftrr9lb6

    Another photo from Abisko, Sweden: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=123260&PHPSESSID=bahr9tm7aevsveoatve12eda35

    • jazzlover

      Speaking of laser light shows (and fabulous wordless vocal guest spots):

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cVBCE3gaNxc

      • salin

        Thanks. Enjoyed this.

        • jazzlover

          Please PM me the lyrics when you have a chance 😉

  • Kind of off topic comment: I always admired medical pros, police, fireman and scientists.
    They deal directly with life, they are part of life and death, daily. They don’t have much room for philosophy.
    End of random post.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      But Dodo, dear Dodo, some of mankind’s best dreams that have come true came from men and women from these very fields Because they deal with life and death daily. It seems to be in our DNA or maybe just our appendix. Noone seems to know what That thing is still doing there. That thing that separates us from the animals and accountants of our existence. I mean, how else do you explain Death Metal? It exists, but is it really necessary? 😉

      • I work on being real these days. Also read this book review today:

        “the sheer unfathomable marvel that is this strange
        life we have, here on earth, the seven billion of us, clustered in our
        towns and cities on this pale blue dot of a planet, spending our
        allotted 30,000 days as best we can, in glorious insignificance.… And I
        am glad to feel every tumultuous second of it.” http://www.ew.com/article/2016/02/26/reasons-to-stay-alive-matt-haig-ew-review

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Think I understand. I am talking about real stuff too. But somebody had to have an idea and a philosophy that there was more to be discovered, that something could be improved, that it was a worthwhile adventure. I think Obs’ new camera brings us a close up view of some of those moments and places of glorious insignificance all around us. But it’s not just the camera – it’s Obs’ philosophy that there’s something out there worth her time and effort to capture and share for all of us to marvel at. I find myself looking forward to them now every day:)

        • Susan B.

          Sounds like a good read. Clinical depression is a force to be reckoned with. I can’t imagine living in another era in time when there were no drugs to pull you out of the abyss. Depressives would have been blamed for their inability to function and told to snap out of it.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Is that you, Marty?

      Just kidding. 😉

      • Rather opposite vector. Any multiversal crossovers are either factual or coincidental however.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          My head just exploded. Thanks, Marty.

          • Welcome, L. Wrong. I am no Marty, just facets of amalgama.

    • ithilien

      Whyever would you think that people who deal directly with life and death dont have, or have time for a personal philosophy?

      • You are right. They are just more grounded, imo.

  • Hurrah for contingency planning!

    This morning my UmbraXenu web server crashed and wasn’t rebooting. Luckily my beta development Raspberry Pi 2 is pretty much a duplicate setup, so I moved over the hard drive, rebooted, and was running again. Then during the day I swapped stuff around until I found that it seems to be the power supply for the USB powered hub that’s fading.

    I swapped that part with the beta system. So the web server runs, and the beta runs a bit iffy but I can play Master of Magic!

    • daisy

      LOL The only thing in that post I understood are a few random verbs.

      • See, that’s what I mean. Damm computer scientists.

      • jazzlover

        You’re a couple of steps ahead of me then 😉

      • tl;du: Redundant hardware is easy with $35 computers!

        • daisy

          Didn’t understand that one either.

          • It’s like buying a computer from a dollar store, but better.

          • If you had two old VWs, you could swap parts to keep one running.

            • daisy

              I actually understood the second post I sacrificed my IQ function for the joke. I have to stop telling people how dumb I am , they believe me. ( most the time that assessment is right )

            • I still don’t know what the fuck he is talking about, I just act like i do.

            • It’s a rainbow Helen Keller, it’s pretty.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Poor buddy of mine bought a diesel Jetta and would brag he could drive it from N. Cali to Vegas on one tank. Nice car…

            • Oh no, I’m talking VW beetles. Montreal winter with salt just ate those things, the first tiny Civics, the Ladas, Rabbits, $4000 Minis, and the rest of the student cars.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I got my Rpi3s today!

      • Is it good with cranberry juice?

      • daisy

        For goodness sake , that is highly infectious, go sit in the corner or wear a mask.

  • Frodis73

    OT-To Obs and J3:
    Obs, not sure if you have netflix or not, but I watched a great documentary the other day called ‘Finding Vivian Maier’. It’s about an unknown (til a few years ago) photographer and how it’s a total fluke we even know who she is. Her pictures are gorgeous, amazing and jarring. Her life was a sad, complicated and twisted. Excellent movie!!
    J3-I finally watched that movie Nightcrawler wth Jake G. It was pretty damn good…very dark and twisty…and creepy. Thanks for the recommendation.

    • daisy

      I see- House of Cards is back on Netlix- Jenna and I will see everybody in the spring.

      • Susan B.

        It’s good to see Robin Wright again in her role. She’s perfect for the part. I’ve watched two episodes and for once I’m not going to binge watch it.

      • Always Amazed

        Just watched the first episode last night, not sure I can finish by spring tho.

    • Jimmy3

      Jake is in my Top Two Favorite Gyllenhals list.

      • Jake and Maggie. Fantastic 2.

        • Frodis73

          That sure is one talented family. I love her in Frank and The Secretary.

          • I can watch them in anything. They mean everything they do.
            Good people, aside of being actors.

      • Frodis73

        I was just reading some discussion about the movie…absolutely scary that there are freaks out there that LOVE Lou and think he’s just a great guy with a lot of ambition, etc. No wonder we are so close to Trump running the country. I’m horrified….and I shouldn’t be…you think I’d know better by now.
        Great movie…says so much about so many different things.

        • Susan B.

          Who’s Lou?

      • Ella Raitch

        Maggie is my ultimate girl crush

    • Susan B.

      Finding Vivien is a great movie. Like a book you can’t put down.

  • ithilien

    Did anyone comment on a previous marty blog, where he said the reason germany wasnt able to capture terrorists was because of how much attention they gave to busting scientology? That was a real mind bender.

    • aegerprimo
      • Susan B.

        Did Marty do something to hurt you or do you disapprove of the choices he made in his life?

        • The comments are not about Marty’s past offences as an ‘enforcer’ for David Miscavige(which is when he is most likely to have hurt someone) or his life choices. They are about the irrationality of one of his blog posts, which can be judged on its own merits.

          The idea the the German police coiuld not catch terrorists because a completly different branch of government (which is concerned with upholding the constitution) is ‘persecuting’ the Church of Scientology for controlling behaviour with totlitarian overtones…. that’s not rational.

          If you have read Marty’s blog you will find a less than coherent ‘true believer’ who (despite being treated badlly by the CofS and ausing others when he was a member) still practices and promotes Scientology. He seems to believe that the CofS has lost their way and ‘corrupted the tech’ and hates its leader… but is prepared to defend it if this he can make any entity which questions Scientolgogy look suspect.

          Ironically, the German governement objected to Scientolgy’s abusive practices, not their beliefs. This makes them, if anytihing, natural allies for independet Scientologists who want to blame all of the shortcomings of Scientology itself on the corrupt behavior of the present ‘corporate’ Church of Scientology.

          Instead of using Germany’s experience to support his argument, he attacks it. To his mind, nobody is allowed to attack the CofS but Marty, because he is the only person who is ideologically pure enough to make any comment at all. He is the guru.

          Since assuming the spotlight thanks to his wife’s court case, Marty seems to be further developing delusions of grandeur, culminating in the strange end to that case (probably due to his influence).

          ‘Whack job” might be a tad harsh, but people tend to speak plainly here, and it’s fair comment. It’s fair to say that Marty’s post does not present a rational argument, and is part of a clear pattern of irratinal thinking that that can be seen by anyone who reads the rest of his blog.

          Personally, I wish the man welll – but he sought the spotlight, and should expect critical comment.

        • aegerprimo

          Good question, but not the right person to ask.

  • ithilien

    If i had 10 grand to annoy sci with, id hire a bunch of actors and do a street deployment, silent, non confrontational, with signage and old phones as props. Just brainstorming, but im trying to think of ways sea org members would see it.
    Something gentle, like the billboard was designed to be. Remember a gentle answer turned Tory Magoo from the scouge of the internet into an ex, like over night. You have to find a way to give them a message of love. Theyre probably desperate for love. Am i wrong here? Would they respond to,gentleness?

    • Susan B.

      I like the idea of the old phones. The person would need to be in the right place (in their head) at the right time. Sure some would be attracted to a loving and gentle voice in the cult wilderness so it’s good to have messages that speak to the soul. I imagined a SO member walking down the street and glancing up at a billboard. A billboard. Parents who wanted contact so much they bought a billboard space. This took them to thoughts of their own family and friends they had not seen or heard in years. Suddenly they got it. Love. Somebody loves me. It’s broad daylight and suddenly they’re frozen, stopped in their tracks. They don’t leave the cult overnight but things are adding up in their head and this effort, this billboard, it helps the shift in consciousness to happen.

    • Dave Reams

      how about handing out “Red Cross” packages with toilet paper, food, and the address of a safehouse they can always blow to?

      • Dave Reams

        Seriously, how many people who wanted to blow have the resources to walk out the door and survive in LA, Hemet, Clearwater, etc…, long enough to re-establish contact with familly and friends and secure a lifeline? Just surviving with a hotel bed and a meal or two a day under $75 is not easy in big cities! Even if someone does wire you money right away, that could take 24 hours to arrange.

        Faced with sleeping on a piece of cardboard in downtown LA, rice and beans and 18 hours of regging might be an acceptable truth.

        I can’t imagine Sea Org members have much money saved up in the bank! If $12,000 can be raised in a few weeks for a stick to poke in Scientology’s eye, perhaps a similar amount could be raised to support an initiative which provided blowers with an emergency micro-loan (interest free) and a packet of basic survival neccesities and information?

  • latest bollocks https://www.scientologybollocks.com/8737-2/

    also the site is having a makeover at the moment… here’s how the new front page is progressing https://www.scientologybollocks.com

    bonus small selection of my favourite photos this week [if they really wanted to get people on the Super Power rundown they should adopt the “slide” below]

  • Draco

    Spotted this little gem this morning. Notice the similarities to our favourite cult when he explains what Fascism is?
    Love Trevor Noah <3
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79TRDRPGx34&ebc=ANyPxKp7ZWJE0IY94–i622ZG9o0cSEjfWJLohKRhHu5gJC3ykhwjthLrHPoM85Tvmb2sVdFkEd7u-0EjMlnirzDVuktnA06hg

    And I definitely go with what TN says about the sheep. I mean seriously … what a stupid quote … makes no sense whatsoever.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    A couple of examples of clams becoming frighteningly unhinged:

    John Mappin adding “Ballots not bullets…for now” to a Youtube video he posted on facebook which is titled: “Mike Huckabee: Washington Elites Ought to Be Grateful the People Are Sending Votes and Not Bullets”. Please tell me that UK laws prevent this guy from owning a gun! WTF??
    (refresh)

    And remember that clam raising money to “help” Syrian refugees who Mappin interviewed? https://www.crowdrise.com/winterclothesforsyri/fundraiser/megantucker
    Mappin now interviews her husband who blames this all on psychiatry. He actually says that psyche drugs “are at the bottom of and the enabler of every terrorist act” & “psychiatry has facilitated all of this terror”. And since he;s done all of his research on the internet, it must be true! That inappropriate laughter of his during the interview is unnerving. This guy is a NUT and the thought of him in refugee camps so he can beg folks to send him and his wife money is revolting, GAH!

    https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle/videos/vb.625896276/10153267963206277/?type=2&theater

    • So often, you start out laughing at a clown like Mappin and it disracts you from the fact that the things they do harm others. For example, anti-psychiatry rants deprive people of appropriate treatment by providing them with an excuse to go off their meds.

      Now that the creepy Mappin is showing through the funny Mappin, perhaps it’s time to bear this in mind.

  • 9001

    Just an idea, and I’m not sure how much it would cost to build, but maybe something like this would be fun (f5)

  • Lighthouse

    Money talks. It nearly always boils down to that, doesn’t it.

  • Mark Bunker

    I wasn’t surprised by the refusal to put up the billboard. On my very first visit to Clearwater, I taped a Transit Board hearing over a similar situation where critics put anti-Scientology ads on the side of Clearwater busses and Scientology got them all pulled within an hour of them hitting the streets.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BbLfUS3rVQc

    • Gabbyone

      I agree with you. I was not surprised that the retracted their agreement. I fact, I was quite shocked that they even got anyone to agree to put it up. I am saying this based on my own experience.

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      Excellent history Mark.

      The tall reddish haired man with the Scientologist Ben Shaw is Brian Anderson. Brian had been a WDC member before coming to Clearwater to be one of the PR people in OSA at Clearwater.

      Brian was RPFed in the late 1990s, I recall him 02:24 in the video, and I knew Brian prior to his PR man work there at that time, and I later also met Brian again when I was on the RPF at LA in 2000-2003, Brian was still on the RPF when I left Scientology in Mar 2003.

      He was someone I always wished would get out of Scientology and tell what went on, because for some reason, my impression he failed at his PR job due to being so direct and honest and answered too honestly in a media interview so much so it backfired on Scientology’s other dishonesties. He got RPFed I think due to some errors in his PR man job there. THis was not his forte. Brian was a school teacher getting into Scientology.

      Your work Mark is so chock full of excellent details and work and ideas of earlier protesters and the LMT work was so excellent overall, thankyou again Mark for the Xenu TV trove of videos and history details and leads and ideas tried and what resulted.

      You are in a class of your own for your video history work of Scientology, Mark!

  • the fall of Drumpf, when it eventually happens, will be spectacular…. in the mean time this parody video of him is a terrific piece of work https://youtu.be/SgE-Fdb3AZs