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Flirt with Scientology, and its dogged letter writers will hound you forever

LetterWriter

 
We don’t know if this is a record, but it sure impresses the heck out of us.

Back in 2011, we wrote a story about someone Scientology had tracked down after they left the organization 40 years earlier. The man had moved ten times since then, and across the country, but Scientology tracked him down and called him on his mobile phone to send him a DVD and try to get him to come back to the church.

We’re sure you’ve seen plenty of other examples of this that pop up from time to time on social media. Scientology sends some of the most ridiculous letters to people who may have simply bought a copy of Dianetics 15 years earlier.

And now, we’ve been sent a copy of a letter that sets a new personal record, at least for us. Our newest tipster has sent us a letter showing that Scientology tracked them down 46 years after they took the Comm Course in 1970….

 
sciwash

You donated for the Communications Course in 1970. That’s awesome. That’s when I got introduced to Scientology and Dianetics. Did you complete the communications course back then? Have you read any Dianetics or Scientology books?

Peter

 
Just think of the resources it must take to track down people nearly half a century after they took a single course at a Scientology center somewhere. And then to bother writing such an ineffective letter that comes across as more creepy than helpful. We know you’ve seen some really bizarre ones online, and some rude ones.

In 2011, our tipster still had the phone number from the Scientology telemarketer who had tracked him down. So we called it. Here’s how that went…

My tipster still had the 323 number (a Los Angeles area code) that he’d been called from. So on Friday afternoon, I rang it.

“Scientology information center,” answered a woman with a British accent.

I said hello, and explained the situation — that a friend of mine had been out of Scientology for four decades, but the church had tracked him down to tell him about a new set of books. I told her this must be a pretty special set of volumes.

“It is indeed,” she responded. “And we are doing a whole evolution of digging through our old correspondence files and finding anyone who has ever had any contact with the church.”

That must be a lot of work, I said.

“It sure is. Who is this?”

I told her my name, and that I was with the Voice. And I asked her what her name was. Sylvia, she told me.

“Let me put you on hold and get you to someone who can do a whole briefing for you,” she said.

Um, OK. At this point, I figured that I’d be switched to a media desk or something — which was fine with me. I’ve been trying to get Karin Pouw or someone over at Scientology’s PR department to call me for months, but they never return my calls.

Soon enough, a young-sounding man with an American accent picked up. He asked me who I was. So I told him.

“What’s The Village Voice?” he asked. I told him it was a newspaper.

“I’m a little bit out of the loop on that,” he said.

I didn’t take it personally. Sylvia had apparently just transferred me to another working drone in the book-pushing department, and I reminded myself what so many ex-Scientologists have told me: church members live in a bubble, working insane hours and keeping themselves cut off from media and other influences of the outside world. This guy was just doing his job, clearing the planet, and it’s no wonder that he hadn’t heard of my publication.

I asked the guy his name, and he told me it was Nick Christensen. He was even nice enough to spell it for me.

Nick helpfully asked me to go to the church’s main website, Scientology.org, and under “Landmark Events” I’d find information about “The Golden Age of Knowledge for Eternity” — and that would tell me about this super special new set of books they are pushing.

Isn’t it a lot of work, I asked him, to track down people who haven’t been in Scientology for 40 years, to tell them about these books?

“It is a lot of work,” Nick answered. “But some people were driven away from the church because of errors in the material. We want to make sure they know those errors have been corrected.”

I thanked him for his time, and ended the phone call.

 
An additional note on that 2011 phone exchange. It turns out that the young Sea Org worker we talked with — Nick Christensen — is brother to actress Erika Christensen, who showed up in one of our favorite Scientology videos.

She must be really proud.

 
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Another milestone at the Bunker

Last night, the 1.5 millionth comment was posted here at the Underground Bunker.

We’re humbled to reach this milestone, and we thank all of our readers for keeping this such a thriving website. It’s especially gratifying to hit this mark so near the Bunker’s fourth anniversary, which arrives on Wednesday.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Can you feel the excitement for this year’s IAS gala? People of England, keep your eyes open for a Tom Cruise sighting — he usually makes the scene on Saturday night, at the Patrons’ Ball.

 
ias2016a
ias2016b

 
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  • Science Doc

    As a reality check on Scientology’s letter tech (and please don’t do this) write a letter to some girl you asked out in 1970 to see if she has reconsidered. I’m sure she will appreciate your diligence in following up! What could go wrong?

    • flyonthewall

      it has been awhile since I’ve had a restraining order put on me

      • Rasha

        If only you could apply the “Religious Bigotry Defense”….

    • LongtimeLurker

      Instructions unclear.

      Girl had gender reassignment surgery in 1992.

      Was super happy to hear from me.

      Am apparently marrying Carl on Wednesday.

      What do now?

  • Shanester

    The act of writing obnoxiously irrelevant and incompetent letters is literally a holy writ in Scientology:

    “Outflow is holier, more moral, more remunerative and more effective than inflow.” – L. Ron Hubbard, 1959

    That little gem of a quote is but one small piece of Hubbard’s obsessive nuttiness on the subject. Seriously, who else but Hubbard would conflate holiness, morality and remuneration? In case you ever wonder why Scientologists are so obsessed with getting your money, you have to understand that every third thing Hubbard wrote demanded just that.

    Hubbard never said anything about the quality of the writing, however, and that is one of his failures. If he had bothered to stop obsessing about making money for two seconds and spent a little more time cleaning up his instructions to make them cohesive and relevant, his pet religion might be more well-regarded. But of course he couldn’t be bothered to make the extra effort; he could only mouth off some demands, usually for an ad hoc solution to a temporary problem, which then became the unalterable gospel of his church. (And I must acknowledge @once_born for helping me understand this. He also has an excellent blog.)

    This all explains why Scientologists unremorsefully spin out reams of embarrassing scrawls masquerading as correspondence. I first became aware of the church’s desperation to staunch the exit of members last year when I received a letter from the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles with a name I’d not used since I was two years old: Scientology Math: 1 = 18
    https://shannester.files.wordpress.com/2015/03/aola.jpg

    • Kestrel

      I wonder how many people actually contact them in an effort to get back that fictional dollar on account. I wonder how they can associate a name you haven’t used since you were a small child with your current address.

      • Shanester

        Well, my mother established an account for me at AOLA when I was born, so they’ve been following me around since then. *Sigh….* It’s been 48 years now, although it’s been a mere 15 years since I left the church.

  • Ann B Watson

    Thank you Tony for a post that really resonated with me.When I was letter regging and then Advance Scheduling as the registrar for SHSBC and beyond at Asho F I never did form letters.I wrote from my heart and yes I really was good at it.All other SOers I talked with despised letter regging but back then but I loved it.I think because I could express myself to people all over the world in the letters and let me flow through.Of course once I hit ASR then big money pressures entered and that screwed me because I thought if the tech was so good and the OTs were so great,they should be given freely for no money.Not exactly KSW.Now though to see the scraping of the barrel regarding chasing down former members from my day and earlier and the bs letters sent to them,makes me see how degraded dm and the cult are now.Free from fear of retaliation to post on these wonderful blogs means so much to me now because even though I was myself in my letters from 74-78 in SO,I still was a Ron slave because I could not break free until late 78 and those months were very abusive which eventually pushed me out.โค๏ธ

    • Juicer77

      In the 70’s you actually had something positive to write about – new people coming on course, etc. Not nearly as many as the Co$ lies say, but still… much better than the Idle Morgues today. Thanks for sharing your experience. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Ann B Watson

        ๐Ÿ’‹I swear Disquis is after me today,now it gives me red notices about internal server errors as if I can fix thatLol.Here is one more letter story if y’all can stand it.I was picked up at LAX at 8:00pm on 7/16/74 by Asho F SO recruiter Ron Noe.As it was we did not get back to Asho until around 9:00pm and before I even signed that contract the LRH Comm handed me a letter that may have been Ron or may have been an excellent SO1 letter writer.I still remember it as it was taken when my room was white gloved by GO in 77-78.Along with all my SO diaries Mary Sues letters Quentin’s Advance mags he wrote to me on.He was so amazing!Anyway the letter said: Dear Ann, Welcome,welcome,welcome!! I hope your flight ascross the country was comfortable.Please keep in close personal touch with me as you join and progress with the Sea Org.The greatest Team in this or any other Universe.Love and then the infinity sig.Ron.For a youngster of just 22 pretty heady well bs now but then you never saw a person pick up a pen as fast.Those love missiles bound me right then and there.I know now almost 98% of all I thought was true when in was not.But I remember to remind me of how strong that current of Ron’a World was.And dm is doing a fantastic job making it even worse if that is possible.Love your posts and you.๐Ÿ˜

        • Juicer77

          Wow, that’s an amazing memory! Did you correspond with Mary Sue and/or Quentin? Sorry if I’m repeating a question you answered a long time ago.

          • Ann B Watson

            Oh yes.Quentin had wanted me to join Sea Org at AOLA and I originally was recruited by Asho Day,so I was in touch with their recruiter.However she thought I was a “plant” so she never followed up with me.For that she got RPFed and Asho F swooped in,good thing too I liked the smaller team Day was huge.Quentin would write me on the AOLA mags he sent me and draw wonderful planes and jets because he loved to fly.When I got to LA and joined I had to go to The Manor or The Hotel Org as we called it now CC Center and be sec checked alot.There was still some question with GO WW in how could I join SO without ever having been in an Org.Well because I knew that is what I had to do.Anyway it so happened for a few days Quentin was in Hollywood and we used to meet in the loggia there and laugh ourselves silly because when a SO member would walk by and see him they would practically fall and grovel at his feet all the while shooting daggers at me as in how can a lowly expediter be with him.After the SO member would walk on Quentin would mimick the person perfectly totally hysterical and we would laugh and laugh.He was a very beautiful spirit and I wish he had not left.A great auditor as well.Mary Sue started handwriting me little notes after I drew her and Ron an Xmas card in 74 that was all Sea Org.I had the tree with an OT symbol on top and all Ron’s books as presents and her little doggies with bows on sitting under the tree.I had colored it and sent one each year.She was delighted but Ron more blasรฉ.She may have appeared cold but I found a sweetness in her that I appreciated.Yet I also know she was the head of GO/WW and what that meant.But we wrote as friends just shooting the breeze for a time.Then Quentin passed and she stopped writing me.I think her heart was broken.So sad how she passed but now I have had breast cancer twice so I feel in her company and know what she must have gone through doing it Ron’s Way,battling cancer.I know each person is different but if I had stayed in SO with his ideas on radiation and how to fight disease I know I would have passed years ago at the Hollywood Inn alone.So here I am still hanging on and with all the incredible support I receive from all I plan to stick around as long as I can.Ron also wrote me in his handwriting a few times on her notes always signing Love R.Now I have taken up all this space The Bunker won’t be happy with me LOL I will gladly answer any questions if I can.Love y’all โค๏ธโค๏ธ

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Ann, you are a complete joy.

            • Ann B Watson

              Andrea, And you are an absolute sweetheart and I love you.Still waiting for my copy of Fair Game! I’ll get it one way or another.๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’—

            • Ann B Watson

              And you are a sweetheart and I love you and your posts.Still waiting for Fair Game.Amazon Prime might have to scrub some dumpsters lol!๐Ÿ’—๐Ÿ’–๐Ÿ’žโค๏ธ

            • Gertrudis

              Ann, you seem like the kind of warm, big-hearted person that brings out the best in others, no matter who they are.

              Your posts are lovely and true, and your kindness and compassion shines through them.
              Please always tell your stories, no matter the length!

            • Ann B Watson

              So good to meet you and a big hug too.Yes will do with my stories,but I also love reading about you youngsters who were in with dm and blew.Also those who were in for years and years and blew and those who never were in.I guess Gertrudis after the treatment I received the last years in Sea Org,I hate to see any one or any thing suffer and I still want to shine my light onto the cult so that the real face not the masks comes out.It may not happen in my lifetime but believe me I will know when what cos is now falls.โค๏ธ๐Ÿ’—

            • Ann B Watson

              Thank you so much,very kind of you.I also love reading about you youngsters that were under dm and those who were doing anything with cos for long term years and never in and lurker comments too.I do have gaps now in some memories so sometimes I am amazed I am 43 years out!But the cult churns on.It is my hope and prayer to see Scientology as the cult is today finished and gone.It may not happen in my lifetime but wherever I am I will know.I think because I received severe punishments at the end of my SO time,I can’t stand to see anyone or anything suffer,so I try to spread laughter,light and love.โค๏ธโค๏ธ

            • Juicer77

              Great memories of Quentin. It’s nice to see him remembered fondly. And amazing about Mary Sue – so she was human, after all. I’m glad you got out and got good treatment to be here with us today. xoxo

            • Ann B Watson

              โค๏ธโค๏ธ

        • Ella Raitch

          We can stand as many stories as you can tell xxx

          • Ann B Watson

            Thank you so much.I am still new here so don’t want to mess up.โค๏ธโค๏ธ

          • Ann B Watson

            Thank you so much Ella.I will keep moving forward and I love reading all the stories here.โค๏ธ

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Right. They have to be so busy with the incredible worldwide expansion and the floods of new people coming in. It is so kind of them to stop and think of a lost soul from decades ago.

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    O/T: Why on earth is Carmen Llywelyn going after Chris Shelton now on Twitter??!!

    • Qbird

      Q: Is Carmen the Oracle?

      • pluvo

        No.

        • Qbird

          good to know, Pluvo, Thanks.

      • MarcabExpat

        Ahahahahahahaha!

        Honestly I’ve always pictured The Oracle as Sybill Trelawney, without all the charm and magnetism that being played by Emma Thompson generates.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Interesting.

          I picture her as a slightly better-educated Annie Wilkes from Misery.

          • MarcabExpat

            Yeah that’s true — Trelawney’s not a Negative Nancy, just a woo-ridden scatterbrain.

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, no, I think there’s room for all kinds of The Oracles.

              There’s no rules. She’s the gift that keeps giving.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Oh lord, no! The Oracle is…one of a kind.

    • Juicer77

      Between you, me and the fencepost, I think she’s not playing with a full deck. (Insert standard no-professional-training-my-opinion-only disclaimer here).

      • Jimmy3

        shhhhh anything you say is fair game harassment

      • flyonthewall
      • Mymy88

        Hmm, do you remember when I told you I was going to ask that question to Chris Shelton on his YouTube video comments about how he felt, at this time, about if ‘you know who’ may have went back into scientology because you had suggested that I do that since I had a better chance at getting a reply from Chris versus that I posted the question here on TO’s blog?

        Well I did that (posted my question in the YouTube comments of Chris’ video) and just now I saw that Carmen copied my question and Chris’ response from the YouTube comments to her Twitter and she tweeted to Chris: “so where is this strong case to be made”.

        But Chris didn’t say he (personally) thought it was a strong case. He was just saying “there was a strong case to be made”. I looked at his reply as just a way of saying a lot of people were speculating this and talking about the reasons why they were speculating this and some of the reasons seemed reasonable to a lot of people or something like that. That’s how I took it, anyway.

        Chris didn’t specifically say he agreed there was a strong case but I guess it would not be unreasonable to think he inferred this because of the way he worded it. I think it could be taken either way. I took it as he was just saying it was generally agreed by more than a few that there was a strong argument “out there”. He said he didn’t know if M went back. He said he did not feel there was enough conclusive evidence for him to agree with that. That’s all.

        But it looks like she is taking it as an offense as to how he answered the question. If you ask me, he was just saying that there are people who are talking about that on many of the forums and people are explaining why they feel this way in their posts. I agree with this because every now and then I bounce around to the different forums and message boards and I’ve seen plenty of this speculation myself. Not that I’ve ever accepted it but I didn’t think it was unreasonable.

        I think if she had the time to read what’s being said on a lot of the forums, she’d see it is generally accepted by many people that there is there is a strong case to be made that M may have went back into Scientology.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      That seems incredibly odd, especially given her very clear insight into the evil nature of the cherch, revealed in this quote of hers that is on her Wikipedia page: “Writes Llwelyn: ‘Scientology has a sophisticated intelligence agency known as the Office of Special Affairs,
      which is essentially a complex system dedicated to ruining the lives of
      those it sees as enemies in any way possible. Those who work for the
      OSA do not follow the law.'”

      I haven’t seen the Twitter comments that you’ve alluded to, but anyone who’s as informed about the cherch’s true nature as she is would almost certainly know that Chris had reached exactly the same conclusions about it that she has, so odd indeed!

      • MarcabExpat

        5feet just posted the link for me upthread, take a look, it’s pretty stunning.

        She has plainly Gone Over To The Mark Side, so it all makes sense in a not-making-sense sort of way.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Thanks, I’ll check it out. There’s gotta be a real story there!

        • LongtimeLurker

          Mark Side.

          lol

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Her comments are bizarre and sad.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        The only problem is, she hasn’t reached as many conclusions as Chris has and still sees enemies where there are none. It’s quite sad. I hope she’ll get some proper help.

    • MarcabExpat

      Can’t figure out which tweet you’re looking at?

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous
        • MarcabExpat

          Wow. Looks like she’s still mad at Tony, and mad at Chris cause he gets his videos embedded chez Tony?

          “Tony Ortega & krew attacked me from his blog & Chris says nothing. Critical thinker? Let’s see.”

          Also, she’s all over Marty now, so there you go.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            I don’t doubt she was subjected to harassment when she left the CoS. That is the playbook, after all. I am sad that it seems like she’s been fleeced by people who are using her to settle other grudges. And now she’s firing at the wrong perceived “enemies” because of it.

          • Observer

            And by “attacked” she means “Tony wouldn’t publish the interview he did with me.”

            This is how Scientology helps people, folks. I hope she finds some peace. Nobody deserves that.

            • MarcabExpat

              Nailed it in one, Obs. I don’t think any of us should be that bowled over by this — the Marty has been strong with her all along, if her little vendetta against Tony shows anything.

          • Rasha

            I’ve always wanted to be krew. Can I be krew? Chris didn’t say anything about me not being embedded in any videos on Tony’s blog, either, and I’m on the blog, so I’m krew, right? Do I have this right?

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              I am proud to call you krew, Rasha. I like knowing someone who knows how to use a nailgun has my back. ; )

            • Rasha

              *slaps in a fresh coil, gives thumbs-up, nods*

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Mah, girl…

            • MarcabExpat

              *sigh* Yes, if you must, but I warn you, newbies must get up 2 hours early to load all the throws onto the float. And NO STEALING MOONPIES, those are for the kiddies!

              Also, it’s spelled ‘krewe.’ Don’t fail me again, novice.

            • Rasha

              *hops up and down clapping* Goodie, goodie!! I can do that! I’ll do it now! Yay! I’m gonna gonna gonna ShhhhhBAP!!! OW!!!! Owie owie…. sorry! I’m gonna get sleep and be right there!!! *salutes* Yessir!!

              …ooooh… Moonpies…… *stands staring*

          • Susan B.

            Jesus Christ on a stick! I’ll say it so no one else has to: why can’t we all just get along? BTW, isn’t the UB supposed to be a cult? I’m not feeling that this morning. We gotta get our cult on! I’ll start by re-subscribing to the Proprietor’s subscription thing-y, let’s say 50% of my monthly earnings. My cat needs her teeth cleaned but we can hold off a few months and instead donate that $700 to Our Proprietor.

            • Qbird

              yes yes, we are all in this cult… BUT!!! We don’t know that.
              We are that stupid, so there ya go. )

            • LongtimeLurker

              I’m just so stupid.

              Despite the fact that I’ve read a bunch of stuff at The Other Place and considered their points (briefly), I still don’t think I’m in a cult.

              I’m surprised someone as stupid as me can dress himself.

            • Susan B.

              Thank you for reminding me! I’m stooopid, I’m stooopud, I’m stststupidsfj re ks grrr 8 re nmd. Im so relieved that I don’t have to thinkk for myself. Just hand me the shovel and I’ll start the hard labor you think I’m goo for. Oh, wait you want me to spend a whole work day on mindless clerical work? No problem! OK so when I’m not working I should come here to the Bunker and post clever things with the hope that Our Proprietor notices me so that I can eventually be part of his INNER CIRCLE. What things should say to get him to notice me? ; )

          • Observer

            There’s no way that alliance can end well.

            • MarcabExpat

              Hon, I’ll raise a dry martini to that.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            Twitter is excellent for spamming butt hurt, but good for little else. She’s aggrieved at Tony for something, but exactly what that is and why she’s gone on the attack is anything but clear from her Tweets on the subject. Something about having been wrongly accused of accepting a pay off from someone for something.

            I suppose one could dig deeper and find out all the details, but after reading her Tweets on a number of other subjects it seems clear that she’s just auditioning for whatever gossip TV or radio shop that’s may be looking for ‘talent’. Failing that, she seems well-positioned to begin her own useless gossip/hate blog or YT channel. The trouble there is that it doesn’t pay very well, due to all the competition that got there first.

            One thing’s for sure, I’m very glad that I spent so little time reading Twitter; it’s mostly verbal incontinence that never should have escaped the confines of these folk’s own personal heads.

            • Bo

              Verbal incontinence. My new favorite expression.

            • LongtimeLurker

              You’re right. Twitter is mostly stuff that you wouldn’t say to people face to face unless you were drunk.

            • MarcabExpat

              I can tell you in two sentences.

              1. Tony interviewed her at length about leaving Scientology.
              2.In the end Tony decided not to publish it, and much later commented that he had interviewed her and decided not to publish it, and “make of that what you will.”
              3. She has taken that and run with it as a personal attack in very much the same way Marty manufactured Tony’s reporting on the lawsuit as “a personal attack on my wife.”

              That is all. The rest is bullshit. She really is, to use the inspeak, “in Marty’s valence” now.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Thanks for the synopsis. Seems like poor Chris Shelton got gratuitously tossed under the bus, merely for associating with Tony!

              These folks are way too much. And knowing the $cn dirty tricks playbook pretty well by now, it sure seems like these folks are following it, based on someone elses orders or just because they’ve internalized that way of relating to others.

              Either way, it’s reprehensible and deserves to be called for what it is every single time it gets trotted out. No one but lil davey the savage + evil minions wins when folks like Marty and Carmen start creating mess like this. If that doesn’t matter more to them than spamming their personal butt hurt does, then that speaks volumes right there.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Wish I could see them but she went on a mass blocking spree of people who were defending her and I was one of them. Ah well, I’m guessing I’m not missing much.

          • LongtimeLurker

            On a laptop or desktop, if you log out of your Twitter account you can then view blocked accounts, I believe.

            I may be wrong.

            • Observer

              I’m not even on Twitter but I can see everyone’s tweets, so I believe you are right.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah. Before I had an account I would just browse it like a normal website.

              They haven’t yet Facebooked themselves behind a signup-wall. Screw you Zuckerberg!

            • Observer

              You can see FB profiles that are set to public even if you don’t have an account. Like so:

              https://www.facebook.com/john.mappincamelotcastle

            • LongtimeLurker

              Ahhh, is that the difference. Thank you.

              Also..not clicking. Can’t handle Mappinsanity right now.

            • Observer
            • LongtimeLurker

              Holy crap.

              What a schnook.

            • Rasha

              At 4.22 light years away…. that’s 220 light weeks….. so we already have the technology to surpass the speed of light by how many times??? Why the hell aren’t I notified about these things???

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7bb59fbc1fd349ee3b1ee41ad415ab3f16a4b878ca2d771c764004ecf2e68245.jpg

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Ludicrous Speed!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAWL8ejf2nM ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • LongtimeLurker

              Because none of the extremely early stage research has lead to a warp drive yet and Mappin is an idiot?

            • Rasha

              *checks Book of Facts* ….. huh…. Yep. *slaps book closed* That jibes.

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Ooooo, Mappin is going to “go home”? Can we get that in writing? ๐Ÿ˜€

            • Observer

              Whoa, I guess you can’t anymore. Sorry.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Yeah, I’m not on Twitter either and I can see conversations.

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Thanks for the info, I’ll save that for when I really want to see something. ; )

              This time, not so much.

          • Ann B Watson

            Hi Angel, I think none of us are missing much.We are too worn out by lies and too savvy now.๐Ÿ˜

        • MadisonAgain

          No one is paying attention to her. She mostly gets zero likes or retweets.

          Etc typos

    • Newiga
    • DoveAlexa

      So… I’m confused, we’re all speculating on how ‘on the take’ Marty is, but should we take this still-in celeb taking clear sides with him as a sure sign that our fears are true? Or is this lady just a kind of free-wheeling crazy that managed to find this drama all on her own?
      edit: she’s not still in, then… why? UHG, forget it!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        She’s Jason Lee’s first ex-wife. She published an article last year in Gawker (RIP) that got a lot of coverage and described her experience with disconnection and harassment after she left Lee and scientology many years ago. Then at some point, she started claiming that Tony had somehow betrayed her. Since then–as someone below put it perfectly–she’s gone to the Mark side. I thought she was mostly fixated on Tony, but I see she’s expanded her targets to include people like Shelton.

  • USAFVET

    It’$ not hard to $ee why $cientology want$ folk$ back.

  • Jgg2012

    Have they ever chased someone who took a course in a previous lifetime?

    • aquaclara

      Maybe if they merged with the Mormons, they could expand the whole genealogy thing back to previous lives. Imagining this makes my head spin.

    • Cedilla
      • TheLurkingHorror

        Wow, that really is a close resemblance. Who is that?

        I found a doppleganger of Bill Murray in a Civil War history book, years ago. Unfortunately, I don’t remember the name of the book or the name of the soldier who looked like him. All I remember is he was a Union soldier.

        • Cedilla

          “Wow, that really is a close resemblance. Who is that?”

          Trohn Javolta. Circa 1860.

  • sizzle8
  • Jimmy3

    Lol so Trump is running the IAS’ advertising operation now? This is huge!

  • Observer

    This is what I saw when I looked at that IAS 32nd anniversary flyer.

    F5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e25bf711de7ff5f8d85ed91c80e41873c3976ddfa3bc29a922d0e55d286459fa.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      thetan grinder

    • Rasha

      Sauron, exactly. I also had an impression of Daleks in there, too….

      • Observer

        It just looked like a big fangy monster to me.

        • flyonthewall

          i see a grinder where the thetan gets put in the top and out comes blood from the bottom

          • Observer

            I see it now…creepy

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Hey hon, passing on a message from Hole. She says “Hello” and that she thought of you and your exquisite photography when she saw this pic and wanted me to pass it on to you. ๐Ÿ™‚ (f5)

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/69992f22ede8d03b48f5c5015c5eb20a1f870974cb37000f4750c382f2bbe14d.jpg

      • Observer

        Wow, that’s amazing! Please pass her my thanks and a whole bunch of hugs.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Will do. ; )

          • Qbird

            mee too!

  • Jimmy3

    Before I go, I’d like to leave you all with a potential investment opportunity to consider. In my dreams last night, I visited a medical marijuana dispensary / daycare center. And it was all above board and legal.

    Just consider it. Drop off your brats and pick up your buds. We would make a fortune.

    • Qbird
      • Observer

        What an amazing pic!

        • Jimmy3

          (The bird isn’t real, those kids are baked)

          • Qbird

            All righty then… showered, shaved, got my game face on. Paid the bills.
            Just dropped off the kids… time to go to work.
            J3Xs! But ~ https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e63927555874b0bd343d79d8485f2397615d384d9d57ec539b427ca76a1fda4a.png

            XD ~ c ya in the late hours peeps!

            • Juicer77

              You look fine, just real real melllow. LOL *waves* ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Qbird

              waving back, you sweetie you!

            • Mymy88

              Nah, you don’t look high. More like stoned out of your ever lovin freaking mind! lol

            • Gertrudis

              Aw, heck, all you need is a little Visine, and be sure to …

              Maintain! ;o)

      • The Goblin King deciding on which kid to take, right now.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        That’s adorable.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I’m in. Will they take teenagers too?

      • Jimmy3

        There were some older kids who seemed like they lived there. We could always add a boarding school.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          I’ve already threatened him with boot camp. He doesn’t believe me at all. LOL

    • Ann B Watson

      If I ever have to have chemo,I am so there!โค๏ธโค๏ธ

    • Bad timing.
      Police: 17-year-old makes toddler smoke weed
      http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/23/health/child-marijuana-video-trnd/

    • MarcabExpat

      Build in doggie day care and food delivery and the world will truly be at your feet.

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    These things come in waves. Now is one of them. I have recently gotten many letters saying things like ” what happened ” ” was there an upset ” etc. That coupled with phone calls . Approx 5 in the last two weeks from numbers with area codes all over the US. I guess the local ones got no pick ups. I don’t pick up anyway and occasionally 3 there was a message all from young sounding women. Wow I have your folder here you got involved in Scientology way back in 197? . I would love to talk to you. I have not been near an org since 1988? maybe. I can verify moving and changing phone numbers does no good. There must be a project underway to recover long lost members at the moment.It will die down soon when the next Emergency project begins.. Their logic is that everyone wants Scientology but just doesn’t know it yet. Former and lost members reached and know they want it and left because of an ARC break and or Overts committed . If we get those out of the way you’ll come back. Responding is not good. It’s like feeding raccoons.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Dave’s massive money jerk-off is about to happen. They need asses in the seats to applaud the little monster at Saint Hell. I’ll bet it tapers off after that is over. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        Could be. It’s something like that. The Basics was the worst.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    1970 Comm Course partial payment proves CF folders are valuable!

    Helps with the Letters Out stat.

    Inadvertent result of Hubbard’s rules for what constitutes NOT retiring a CF folder.

    If someone wants to get OFF the Scientology Mailing List, just follow Scientology’s guidelines and mention Xenu and the OT 3 story.

    Write Scientology back or answer their phone calls by telling them the Xenu story and they will “Deadfile” you.

    Just keep telling Scientology disseminators the Xenu story,carefully, accurately, and that gets you “deadfiled” and they won’t keep contacting you.

    But you DO have to tell them the Xenu storyand stick to just telling them their own secrets to their lower level staffers, and they will then let you alone.

    Tell them you don’t believe in the Xenu story, and explain it to them.

    And tell them that you don’t plan on doing OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 because you don’t believe you are infested with “body thetans”.

    Tell them Xenu caused the “body thetan” problem when Xenu caused the Wall of Fire/4th Dynamic Engram, and if you write these details to them, and tell them the Xenu story and that you don’t want to do Scientology’s OT 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 body thetan exorcism procedures, tell them their secret history, and they let you alone.

    The Xenu story is magic to their ears.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      CHUCK!!! *smooches*

      Good to see you. (I know you’ve probably been around but I haven’t seen you.) ๐Ÿ™‚

    • FredEX2

      OMG Chuck! LOL

    • Techie

      Scientology Cult:

      HCO POLICY LETTER OF 17 MAY 1969
      MAILING LISTS CENTRAL FILES ADDRESSO BASIC DEFINITIONS AND POLICY
      The size not the quality of an Orgโ€™s mailing list and the number of mailings and letters to it determines the gross income of an Org. – L Ron Hubbard

      Cargo Cult: http://assets.atlasobscura.com/media/W1siZiIsInVwbG9hZHMvcGxhY2VfaW1hZ2VzL2NhcmdvMy5qcGciXSxbInAiLCJ0aHVtYiIsIjk4MHhcdTAwM2UiXSxbInAiLCJjb252ZXJ0IiwiLXF1YWxpdHkgOTEgLWF1dG8tb3JpZW50Il1d/cargo3.jpg The difference is the Cargo Cult is based on beliefs that are shared by the adherents. The Scientology cult is based on the unalterable sayings of the Founder, belief be damned. The Cargo Cultists believe that by certain rituals they can go back to the days when relief efforts by airplane were common. The Scientology cultists believe that “outflow equals inflow”, so it does not matter how goofy the letters are or who they annoy. By writing letters they are magically improving their gross income. Ron said it, must be true.

      • LongtimeLurker

        The other important difference is at least planes full of good things exist, somewhere, even if the Cargo Cult can’t actually summon them.

        The vast majority of things Scientology offers don’t exist, and never will.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Thanks for pointing the way to Hubbard’s golden nuggets of “stable data” which the students and followers and staffs are obliged to follow, or suffer ethics conditions, cramming, sec checking, if their “stats” are down.

        The Letter Reg’s job is so easy to stat push, just write some more letters, or get an all hands to have the superficial dreadful letters written, to get their stats up.

        All of it is pressure control guiding the members into their ruts, their behaviors.

        Hubbard’s stats of “changed civilization” hadn’t been statisized.

        Hubbard didn’t keep and post his weekly stats, no graphs in Hubbard’s Bluebird.

        No Admin Scale, I mean if Hubbard believed his own medicine, he’d have been keeping stat graphs, have his weekly conditions formula writeup on hand, and we’d have some of his stat graphs to look at today.

        Guy didn’t take his own medicine.

        Scientology staffers ought to be asked “Where are LRH’s own conditions formulas he wrote up and applied on himself? Where are LRH’s own stat graphs that LRH was keeping on his own “hat” as “Founder” and “Source.” Where are LRH’s own stat graphs!

        I’d like to see LRH’s “Ethics Folders” please! Where are his conditions writeups?

    • Mockingbird

      How about the affirmations ?

  • Newiga

    At least Scientology is constantly upstat on something. The level of creepiness that is… Yikes.. *shudders*

    Also, this made me laugh: ” Iโ€™ve been trying to get Karin Pouw or someone over at Scientologyโ€™s PR department to call me for months, but they never return my calls.” I think it’s safe to say that you are going to be waiting for awhile, Tony. Maybe Pouw will call you back just before SO contract ends?

    • Noesis

      Maybe Tony should scribble her a barely literate handwritten letter – that technique seems to work so well for the Letter Registrars at Scientology…right?

      • Newiga

        and who could forget that creepy “STOP IGNORING OUR PHONE CALLS” message that Scientology puts on envelopes… Maybe that works?

        • chukicita

          You have to imagine it in a Tone 47 voice.

        • MrsLurksALot

          And don’t forget to sign it with Much Love…

    • Susan black

      Karen pouw will immediately call Tony just as soon as she blows from the hole. Or wherever dm has her stashed away.

      • Kestrel

        I suspect certain Sea Org members get a nice check in exchange for a non-disclosure agreement when they decide they’ve had enough. For all we know, she could have left a long time ago and is nothing more than a name on an email from $cientology Inc.

      • Newiga

        Yes… ๐Ÿ™

  • Imelda Marcos

    I feel sad for Nick. ๐Ÿ™

    • Juicer77

      I guess he talks to his sister?

      • MrsLurksALot

        Well, there is a different set of rules for Sci “celebs,” so I guess he can speak with her. I’m sure his family time hasn’t been revoked.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Might be after today’s story.

          • MrsLurksALot

            True dat.

  • BosonStark

    We’re so close to an OT civilization. If only we can get people who took one course 46 years ago to buy one rondamn book or take another rondamn course.

  • Username

    “Awesome Accomplishments in Planetary Salvage”
    Can someone please make me an image of the midget as Fred Sanford, Cruiseless as Lamont, in their salvage truck with those words on the side. Maybe throw in Hubris as Aunt Ester or Grady. I’m not picky. Have the theme song in the background…. Maybe I’m just cracking myself up.

    • chukicita

      I posted a link to the theme song earlier. Great minds. Can’t get the groove out of my head.

      • Username

        I missed it! You sent me the vibe… Singing it with you now ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • MrsLurksALot

        Yeah, thanks for that ear worm. ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Mockingbird

      Is DM the big dummy !?

      • Username

        No just a dummy. Big is not a word I would ever use to describe him that shall not be named.

        • Mockingbird

          Is Hubbard a big dummy or fish eyed fool ?

          • Username

            No Cruiseless is the big dummy for working for nothing, in a dead end job for an ungrateful, unsuccessful salvage operator.

          • Username

            Hubtard is the fish eyed fool because, well, he’s just a fool.

  • Mockingbird

    OT. Robert Jay Lifton in an interview states that Trump’s hardcore followers have a cultic phenomena. He explains the qualities of a narcissistic guru that Trump has with Steven Hassan. I have been saying this for over a year.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=gNbpOfMBO6Y

  • Newiga

    Call me crazy but I’m kinda curious about what this next advance of an OT civilizations is. I mean if they can already locate lost car keys and chance traffic lights at will, what else CAN there be???? Locating lost glasses? Controlling annoying mirror thetans?

    • edge

      Validate parking tickets with their mind? I mean if they just stare at the parking meter and shout at it with Tone 40 intention, I bet OT VIIIs can roll back the clock: “I DID NOT GO OVER!”

    • Username

      How about fart and burp on command? That’s got to be worth $100k?

      • Newiga

        LMAO!! At least $100K! DM, hope you are taking notes. ๐Ÿ˜›

        • Username

          I also just thought of what a great value add this could be for an aspiring Scientologist actor….”Take 32….and…action…”

      • kemist

        Only if the fart smell intensity can be controlled with some precision.

      • I’d settle for making farting noises by putting any hand in my armpit. My mate’s kids try to teach me, but I just can’t do it.

        The younger brother can belch at will, too, using a technique that involves swallowing air.

        • Username

          My brother has exceptional armpit farting talent. I believe a little moisture goes a long way.
          Maybe your brother is the first OT9.

    • MrsLurksALot

      They don’t need glasses, don’t you know. Unless they do, but that is only so others won’t be intimidated by how OT they are…..

    • chukicita

      Just cleaning off and then ignoring the plight of invisible other souls. Oh, and good parking places. That’s it.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Do you need help tracking someone down after not seeing them for 40 odd years? scientology can help you with that.

      • Newiga

        LOL! A good one! Scientology stalking skills are out of this world.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Dear Bob Jr.,

    You father Bob Sr. attended a Scientology event in 1952 at the Shrine Auditorium in Los Angeles where he purchased a copy of Dianetics. Our records show he never returned our four decades of phone calls and letters and dropped his body in 1991.

    Bob, Scientology was very important to your father in 1952 and so it should be important to you. However, our records show you have never had any contact with Scientology whatsoever.

    Bob make your late father proud and purchase a Scientology library today. Let’s do this the easy way. Call us with a credit card. Don’t make us come to your house.

    Love,

    Brenda Bahlbraker
    Letter Reg
    Los Angeles

    http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/scienowriter/Bateskathy324thum_zps67mxugve.jpg

    • Newiga

      *dying of laughter* HAHAHAHAAAAA, I can’t breath! You, sir, are a genius!

    • Username

      So many laughs and fun today! I have so much to do but I keep reading! Ok I need to leave.

    • MarcabExpat

      The wonderful, terrible thing about this is how closely you have to read it to discern whether it’s real or not.

  • Vaquera
    • chukicita

      Where in SP is this?

      • Vaquera

        Pioneer Park on 1st Ave.

    • Vaquera
      • Username

        Protesting mental health drugs based on information Co$ publishes is like protesting life saving medication based on medical reviews by readers digest or the national enquirer.

        • Observer

          Weekly World News

          • Username

            Yup… You nailed it

    • the effervescent mongoloid

      Vampires protesting against the werewolves.

    • Observer

      This makes me so angry. The kids among the protestors are most likely terrified that some ebil psych is going to snatch them from their families, shoot them full of ebil psych drugs and, as numbnuts Clay Bock so eloquently put it, fry their brains…when the reality is that they are being force-fed baseless fears and Hubbard’s destructive crap, being treated like old thetans in little meat bodies with all that that entails, and will likely be subjected to possible liver damage or even death in the Purif, deprived of an actual education, and/or shunted off to slavery in the Sea Org. THIS IS WHY.

      • Vaquera

        ^^^^^

    • MarcabExpat

      Fucking pissed.

    • Susan black

      Indoctrinating those kids with their garbage is abusive. Shame on their parents.

    • PappeKak

      I can always tell a clam “protest” by the similarity of the signs. The sizes, the colors, the font, the carefully scripted messages that are hugely weak are all very similar. Folks, this is what a cult looks like when they ‘protest’ out in public.

    • TheLurkingHorror

      Electroshock on kids? That’s got to be fear mongering bullshit, right? I didn’t think they even used electroshock much, if at all, anymore

      • Juicer77

        Absolutely it is scaremongering. There are some cases where ECT (I believe is the correct term) is still used, but it’s well controlled and with patient permission. You can certainly refuse it.

        • TheLurkingHorror

          Thanks. Yes, I think I’ve heard it can be quite effective for some with severe depression, but is used as a last resort.

          It’s sad that they use these tactics to try to scare people, and the protesters don’t even really know why they are protesting. They have no clue, at all. And i’m not just talking about the kids, but the grown-ups as well.

    • aquaclara

      This infuriates me. Scientology will lie and cheat to coerce any child to join their damn cult. Then they will work them like a slave. How dare they prevent people from seeking real help from professionals?

      • Juicer77

        ^^^

    • UhLasare

      Deep sigh. ๐Ÿ™

    • Gertrudis

      Scientology is like Opposite World. It’s different there . . .

      They think they’re protesting against psychiatry.

      Really, they’re protesting for crazy.

      Opposite World.

    • apparently they put up a tent in Copenhagen. I had to rely on family members to tell me. The interweb is silent (except for results from the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology itself). Good.

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Off to a family wedding–which should be interesting since half the family doesn’t like me. Wish me wine. Be good!

    • Rasha

      Very drink! Such dance! <3 Tell the happy couple I said hi!!!!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        You got it. Nail Gun Queen says hey. Will tell them now.

        • Rasha

          m/

    • Baby

      And that is exactly why I moved.. No weddings, no bridal showers, no baby showers, no blah, blah..
      ( For my kids and grandchildren absolutely)

      AND BEST EVER..NO FAMILY REUNIONS. Woo hoo..

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Ha! I tried that, Babes. Moved to SF many years ago, then ran out of money and had to come back east. It’s OK, though. It’s one of my cousins who got married and I love her to pieces. The rest of the fam, though…meh. (Except for my great aunt the nun, who is awesome and a total trip.)

        • Baby

          Oh good 5 .. have fun sweetie.. Your Aunt sounds like a hoot.

          We have so many like cousins.. and they had kids and their kids had kids.. etc. Graduations.. etc.. etc.. It gets so expensive..

          and God forbid someone send you a thank you note after you spent $50 on them.. ( or acknowledge it somehow) Jeeze..

          My Grandkids call me.. They know better..

          Have fun darlin.. have a drink on me..

        • redfisch

          Religious Order relatives can be a treat, especially the women! My family has a Sr. Mary Frances, who is wonderful.

    • Juicer77

      What is wrong with them?? Honestly!!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I gave up trying to figure it out, J.

    • OOkpik

      The sensible half will be grateful for your love and support, Lumi.
      You can do this! <3

  • nottrue
  • Observer

    I wonder if Nick Christensen has been summoned for sec checking yet.

  • Draco

    OT: From a comment on Rinder’s blog today -”
    “dr mac says
    September 24, 2016 at 8:12 am
    Yes, such a community-focused organisation. Iโ€™ve heard rumours from more than one source that the Corbettโ€™s indie group in Joburg has closed down after receiving death threats to their grandchildren. I wonder which part of this charitable church that so desperately wants to help people overcome their โ€˜tribulations in lifeโ€™ those threats came from? Huh HCO? Anything to add?”

    Anybody else hear anything about this? It seems the pressure has been stepped up due to their court case against the cult…

    • flyonthewall

      seems like something backincomm would of covered, too bad they’re not active. Despite them being indie I liked the peek into the scene in SA

      • Draco

        Yeah. I checked around amongst a few of my contacts, but not much more seems to be known here. I never hung around with any of the Indies; hearing people waxing lyrical about their precious tech would make bile rise in my throat. Didn’t like that.

        • Ben Franklin

          There seems to be quite a bit of infighting going among the indies themselves which make things even worse.

          • Draco

            Lots of inflated egos running around there!

    • LongtimeLurker

      Threatening kids.

      Stay classy Scientology.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Boston family in town for an entire week ….just said bye to the last one . The crazy shit going on here …is a sweet relief .

    Can someone fill me in …in say …3 bullet points ?

    • LongtimeLurker

      – Scientology can’t write letters.

      – A couple more ‘famous’ people have gone to the “Mark Side” but on the other hand about 40 of his original followers seem to have stopped participating.

      – David Miscavige still short.

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        Concise.VWD.ML ๐Ÿต:)ETA: Just checked Mark Side [stop]Smell of whiny butthurt overpowering [stop]Waaaahmbulance called [stop]Mark, please [stop]

        • LongtimeLurker

          Orly?
          Checking, back soon.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Someone tragically died.

            Marty and his incredibly self-involved followers made it about them.

            Delightful.

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              I knowโ€“I could take only the briefest exposure. (Sorry, slightly distractedโ€“cat endeavouring to remove sock with claws!)

        • Gertrudis

          Hahaha Monkey — very very funny! Funny Monkey!

    • LongtimeLurker

      Dear diary,

      Located nearest Dunkies in preparation for family’s arrival. Then banged a Uey to the packie to stock up. Should be a wicked pisser.

      Kim O.

    • OOkpik
      • DoveAlexa

        Oh dear god, what the hell is that one on the left!

        • OOkpik

          A target!

          eta: Hopefully no one would get caught dead in it.

        • Mymy88

          I deleted this.

          • DoveAlexa

            *secret handshake*

            • Mymy88

              LMAO You always crack me up.

    • Baby

      1. We are a Recognized Cult .. Tony Ortega and the BunkerRues .. ASC ( Anti Scientology Cult)

      2. Our numbers are growing 47x
      3. We just celebrated over 1.5 ( VERIFIED) COMMENTS.

      Oh it was Obs. birthday… Daisy hasn’t been around her computer fucked up… and Beauty’s Mama started Chemo and doing much better than she did on radiation.

      I know there is more.. but we miss you.. ( A week? Girl are you nuts?) love you xoxo baby

  • Gene Trujillo

    I know Peter the letter writer. I was on staff at his org. He’s a nice guy, “following policy” to get letters out stat up because outflowing is better than inflowing.

  • PappeKak

    Just when I think things can’t get any weirder, I have to remember this is scientology. It’s made weird.

  • grundoon

    Scientology “letter registrars” have been sending out letters just like this since the 1950s. How do they achieve this consistency? By following Hubbard’s written instructions, such as this policy from OEC Volume 2…

    Procedure: Choose a CF file folder… Study folder for R factor of ARC triangle. Then solve it. What is the reality of this person? (With what will he agree at his highest stretch?) ….

    Sample letters:

    Dear Eileen,
    I have read your last letter to us and seem to detect difficulty. You were doing so well that I am curious about your expressed reluctance to finish the HAS Examination.

    What happened?

    Yours very sincerely,
    _________

    Dear Edna,
    I was looking over your folder and my interest was struck by the fact that on the 10 Feb 57 1 see you were saving for a Number One basic goal of training for the HPA Course. On looking further, I see you took an HAS Course in March 1958. I further see that you have not taken an examination or received your certificate which I have here waiting’for you all filled out. I also see that you took the pre-Congress group intensive with good results and that your IQ has risen in a year from 114 to 124.

    However I am mystified as to why you did not complete your basic goal of training. We need auditors badly and you seem so well suited.

    Has something happened to deter you in your auditing career?
    Best regards,
    _________

    Dear Bill,
    Did you get your E-Meter? How does it work?
    Best regards,
    _________

    — L. RON HUBBARD
    HASI LETTER OF 15 NOVEMBER 1958 – HOW TO PROCURE PEOPLE

    • Graham

      Thanks for these samples. Helps me understand where these letter writers get their mildly passive-aggressive tone from.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Everything flows from Source.

    • Liberated

      According to Ron, outflow (the no. of letters mailed out ) equals inflow (the people coming thru the door). Ha….. I never once saw that happen.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Did ron ever get anything right?

        • Liberated

          Never, but just keep doing it anyway.
          I mean it is “the tech.”
          Don’t you dare criticize “the tech”.

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Standard Blech.

            • Mark Foster

              Bland Dead Dreck

        • OOkpik

          “SAN LUIS OBISPO, Calif. Jan. 28โ€”
          L. Ron Hubbard, the founder of the Church of Scientology, died…”

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            He even failed at that a couple of times before he succeeded.

            • Liberated

              I know, he couldn’t even drop the body right.

            • Draco

              “Number of times over equals certainty”

        • Mark Foster

          THE MONEY

      • OOkpik

        Ron said that there is a direct relation to the mail going out and people coming in for services/training.

        That relation could be 1 sucker for 1 letter sent to a person or 1 for 10,000 letters sent to someone. His point was that if you keep nagging them, they will invariably come in to continue services.

        That makes about as much sense as anything else he said, but it’s the LAW to keep on writing.

        • Liberated

          Yep, and do not ask questions.

    • OOkpik

      Edna’s “risen IQ” is the reason she wants nothing more to do with Scientology.

      Bill is informed that they don’t even know how the E-meter works. ๐Ÿ˜ฎ

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      “Dear Edna, I see you took an HAS Course in March 1958. I further see that you have not taken an examination or received your certificate which I have had here waiting’for you all filled out for the past 58 years. Has something happened?” https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/232d466b39d4de4ea6690d23efa5b983799210e3034dba47f39bac13762bd474.jpg

  • Mockingbird

    I have a great idea for Scientology. They can call everyone born after 1950 and tell them they might be a past life clear and they will give them a free clear check. l can see every person who is young enough getting buried in messages.

  • Baby

    Thought you guys would get a kick out of my ” Hippie Days” ( so do you think this girl smoked Pot? ) What is funny is that it is in a frame so I took a picture and I just noticed that I have a paisley bed spread that reflects off the glass.. ha..

    I’m the one on the rt. and my BF on left. Mid 70’s.. We were in the park and a photographer took our picture. f5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/16394f000bfef0e55006874664cf8d82bd70602a9570e5b363cc4e99b93213b6.jpg

    • Baby

      And this is why I have worn Bangs ever since.

    • Juicer77

      Yep, we know that mischievous grin. Xoxo

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      You haven’t aged a day ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Ay mami tu tan caliente!

      • Baby

        gracias al hombre atractivo xo

    • Sherbet

      Those sandals are still in style.

      • Baby

        I actually was wearing boots.. and my friend yep.. knowing her she was wearing Birkenstocks ..

        We were too cool for school.. xo

    • nottrue
      • Baby

        That is ONE hell of a flashback RM..
        ( I can’t believe I lived through those days.. shivers)

        EDIT : NT instead of RM.. Jeeze..

      • Baby

        Oh honey I called you RM.. I knew you were NT but got the initials screwed up.. forgive me love.

    • Draco

      Good thing you spotted the paisley reflection right away … we don’t want you saying “I see dead people” 6 months from now when you look at the pic again!
      ;P

      • Baby

        OMG bawwwwwwwwwwhahahhahahha .. I really was scared that night.. ha

    • Vaquera

      You are still the blond bombshell that you ever were.

      • Baby

        Good Gawd.. you guys..hahhahahaha .. You ” Miss Legs ” of all people.

    • stanrogers

      Waiting for Frank Mills to return?

    • MarcabExpat

      Oh girll… WOW. That is a good look on you. Pardon me, but I gotta…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fhNrqc6yvTU

      • Baby

        Thanks Marc.. ( I usually wore my hair down.. I don’t know what I was going for there )

        I was one of the original flower children. Hell of a movement. Another time.. sigh..

    • meerameezer (wogsy)

      Gorgeous!

      • Baby

        I was just a baby Wogsy.. sigh.. I had no idea what was ahead.. ( But I thought I did..) Thank you honey

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Beautiful 70’s Baby. I remember those times well too!

      • Baby

        Thanks REV.. I laugh when I look at my hair..hahha.. I was being creative that day I guess.. xo

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Seriously simply ridiculously GORGEOUS!

      • Baby

        thanks MsFurrrrrrrrr xo Ah youth

  • Baby

    Damn you guys are a gabby bunch.. Over 1,000 comments 5:30 pm? Good Lord.. Ever since it was finally announced our Cult Status We have sky rocketed..

  • grundoon

    LRH’s instructions to the letter writers are comprehensive and unmistakably clear.

    The first thing you should know about is that any letters are better than no letters, any calls are better than no calls. Now I’ll give you some idea of the importance of that exact fact. You will every now and again hear a protest that staff auditors when not employed on auditing should not write letters because they write such bad letters. This immediately violates the first data, get the idea – that any letters are better than no letters. I mean that because we have a tremendous amount of data demonstrating that that is a fact.

    Now and then you have protests about the letters which have been written, and these protests are almost always from squirrels, and it gets translated this way: “Everybody thinks that these hand written letters are very annoying”….

    If you want to know what programme to use, look through your files and find out who protests the most, and then send these people a number of programmes and ask their advice on which ones to use, and those that they tell you are terrible, do them, because their main effort and purpose is to cut the lines….

    Now don’t violate this first premise: any letters or phone calls are better than no letters or phone calls. And the next stable datum is: The volume of the income of an Org, is in direct proportion to the number of phone calls and letters of an Org. It has nothing to do with quality. Now wouldn’t that shock you to death. It is a direct proportion. I am not now speaking loosely. I have had this cast up, number of letters-amount of income, for given periods of time, long periods of time-worked every time. Those periods when there were lots of letters going out were periods of high income, and those periods when there were no letters going out were periods of low income, and that was it. It’s just 1-2, so PrR’s basic concept becomes very simple-it’s just keep those letters going out….

    Now schemes by which you get new names are almost as important as CF itself. You’ve got to keep CF expanding. Now a CF folder that develops 2″ thick of letters without a single response would apparently be a waste of time at first glance. I thought so once, when a very able Registrar in the States showed me conclusively that this was not the case…. People who are writing letters will write this person and write him again and write him again and write him again… and stack up this tremendous thick pad of carbon letters of letters to this person. You say that’s a waste of time – no, it’s not a waste of time, because this Registrar in the States demonstrated to me conclusively that after they got to be an inch thick they usually came in. You cannot say this person is not going to answer because he has been written to many many times without replying. You say he must have an ARC break, there must be something wrong with this person, there must be something wrong with the letter quality, or there must be a lot of other things wrong – none of these things apply – it’s just the fact that the number of letters it takes to get this particular person in happens to be 95. It’s almost on the basis that if they aren’t dead and still have a body and are written to, they will come in for training or processing. That’s another stable datum. If you write them enough letters they’ll still come in. …

    I’ll give you an idea. I opened a folder one time, there was just one graph in it, and it was clear on down to the bottom of the scale, and the IQ was practically out the bottom too, and the only reality I had on that was the first thing that occurred to me, was- “My God you’re in terrible condition”. And I wrote it, and the person came in at once. …

    Now are there any questions you would like to ask before we conclude this?

    Peter Green: “When you are writing letters and the only response you get is a scream to stop bothering you, what do you do?”

    Oh, basically an ARC break, you handle it exactly the same way…. So this person screams, and he says: “Don’t you dare send me any of your old dirty rotten literature any longer, it upsets me everytime it appears in the mail and so forth, this is a horrible thing that you are doing.” The first reality I’d get on such a response might be something like this: “When was the first time we sent you some literature?” That’s all, that would be the question, that would be the response, and-

    Peter: “And then would you discontinue writing to them?”

    Oh no, you don’t unless he’s actually threatening to go to the police, why you keep on writing him – that is too easy to handle because you do simply keep on writing to him – that answers your question.

    — L. Ron Hubbard
    HCO POLICY LETTER OF 15 NOVEMBER 1960 – MODERN PROCUREMENT LETTERS

    • OOkpik

      Thanks for digging this up, Grundoon.
      All hail the dead LRH!

      *barff*

    • Draco

      Great find, grundoon! And that explains everything about scientology’s letter writing to people who have no interest in receiving them.

    • Noesis

      Beneath Hubbard’s overwrought instructions like the ones you quote above – as well as his infamous “Books Make Booms” policy – was the hidden fact that Hubbard personally benefited financially every single time one of his church “licensed” books, tapes or policy letters …were sold.

      Every single time. Without fail.

      That is perhaps the biggest “withold” in all of Scientology…and a fact about which Ron lied orally and in writing on multiple occasions.

      Scientology “expansion” directly increased L. Ron Hubbard’s personal income – period.

    • Captain MustSavage

      The beauty of the information above is that it shows that Hubbard was fully aware of how people felt about being contacted in this way but was totally unable to understand or respond appropriately to the feedback. He was correct no matter what evidence the universe provided to the contrary.

    • Gertrudis

      “My God you’re in terrible condition.”

      Can’t imagine receiving a letter like that from someone I didn’t know.
      Old Hubs just jibber-jabbered away about any old thing, as long as it was cruel and thoughtless.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    For those who started a comm course or any other Scientology basic course in, let’s say, the summer of 69 and never finished this course (and quit Scientology right there), be glad you did NOT waste the best days of your life:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WxU8TdIMpvM

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Tom Cruise looking forward to next week’s Patrons’ Ball?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7mEjmWnihrc

  • grundoon

    Once Scientology has you in its Central Files, not even death can remove you, per LRH policy.

    NO ADDRESSES OF PERSONS WHO HAVE BOUGHT SOMETHING MAY EVER BE RETIRED. This cancels any policy, directive or idea to the contrary. NO CF FOLDER MAY EVER BE RETIRED FROM THE FILES.

    The definition of a CF folder is THE FOLDER OF A PERSON WHO HAS BOUGHT SOMETHING FROM AN ORG.

    Exceptions to CF no-retirement policy are dropped body in which case the CF folder goes to HCO Inspection and Reports Ethics Section for safekeeping and for any investigation and is filed there, fugitive, and Suppressive Person folders. These become part of the Dept 3 Ethics Files. But even so, a dummy folder with the name, a gold-coloured board, is left in CF with the name on it to show that Dept 3 has it. Anything afterwards coming in (invoices, letters, etc.) to be filed in such folders is stamped by CF ETHICS FILES DEPT 3 and is sent on to HCO Ethics Section. When the CF clerk sees that what he or she is trying to file has a dummy gold-coloured board instead of a file, the CF clerk stamps the unfiled bit as above and sends it on. …

    There is no other retirement of lists.

    “Inactive Files” are simply THOSE FILES WHICH ARE NOT MEMBERS OR PROSPECTS. “Active Files” are simply “THE FILES OF THOSE PERSONS WHO ARE MEMBERS AND THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE BEEN TRAINED OR PROCESSED AND THOSE PERSONS WHO HAVE EXPRESSED A DESIRE TO BE TRAINED OR PROCESSED”.

    There is no time limit on how long the file is active.

    — L. Ron Hubbard
    HCO POLICY LETTER OF 8 APRIL 1965 – CANCELLATION OF MAIL LISTS

    • PerpetualOutflow

      So if there is never any “retirement” of addresses, what happens to the file of someone labeled “dead file.” I think it was Chuck Beatty somewhere below who told people they could get clam mail and calls to stop by just telling the Xenu and body thetan stories. He said they would dead file you immediately.

      • grundoon

        The “dead file” isn’t for dead people, it is for people who have been declared or who have mailed “entheta” to an org (anything that could be upsetting to org staff).

        When you’re in the Dead File, the Chruch will no longer mail you anything. Any mail that the Chruch receives from you will be filed in your folder without reading it (but OSA or Ethics may use it for their mischief).

        Per LRH policy, this is the only way to get off their mailing lists.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Thanks much Grundoon. So…knowing what you know, would you advise using this tactic to get off their lists, or would you recommend suffering the barrage of mail and calls forever?

          • grundoon

            Several people have reported success. It’s not recommended if you want to remain connected to friends or relatives who are still in Scientology.

    • Rasha

      So if you die, your file is kept for safekeeping or any investigation….

      Jeeze, this guy. I hope there’s nothing by him saying, “Wog homes may be entered at will, with no restriction, and you can do what ever you want.” ‘Cuz they’d do it.

      • Mark Foster

        It’s already been done. All over the world. For 60 years.
        It’s called Fair Game.

  • Commodore H. McCringleberry

    There must be something different that goes on now regarding new contacts, like a rating system for likelihood of a positive response or something which they wouldn’t have from the people that were contacted before the current group of staff were on post. That, or newer contacts are run on a more programmed basis than older ones, which are dug up from time to time and contacted (probably to boost stats).

    I went to a Co$ event three months ago, and my account was published here. We know this blog is watched, but it would appear that they didn’t put the fairly obvious two and two together. I used a different name, phone number, mailing address, and email address that I’d created (if you ever need a phone number to actually reach you while not giving out your real number, look up Google Voice) just for the event, but where I’d actually receive communications.

    So far, I’ve received one very glossy and expensive looking piece of promotional mail about two weeks after the event, and three emails- one each month. Two of the emails and the physical letter were from the same person. The 2nd monthly email was from someone who seemed higher up the chain. They weren’t form letters (didn’t get the same email twice), but the wording and the information requested of me (i.e. Have you done any courses? Are you still coming to Flag on XXX date?) were the same. The only phone call I got was a confirmation call for an appointment I was supposed to attend, which was from one of the people on the tour I attended. After that- no phone activity.

    If someone were to pull all of my comments on this site off to see what you could learn about me, you’d know what city and state I live in, what I do for a living, some of my hobbies and interests, where I went to school, and some of the things I’ve done since, and my approximate age. I’ve met Tony and maybe four or five of you Bunkeroos in the flesh, but otherwise, I’m not sure you’d know much about what I look like, though based on the number of photos they took of the event with the details I put in the write up, it wouldn’t be hard to identify me.

    So, three very succinct emails, and one letter with attachments, mostly from the same person. I’m not sure this lives up to the constant harassment with special offers, mail order decoder rings, useless coupon books, and thrice weekly 2am phone calls that I feared. The question is, will I still be getting emails in 40 years?

  • Lousy Ratatouille
  • Rasha

    …are we at 2 million yet?

    • Vaquera

      IIRC, Tony said we’d passed the 1 million mark at some point last year during his summer book tour. So, 2 mil by this time next year?

    • iampissed

      Are we going to have to put up with this the whole trip?

      • Rasha

        *crosses arms* Harrumph!

  • Vaquera

    Settled into my favorite corner of the davenport to read Fair Game, opened to the first page…..and the font is too small for my in-need-of-correction contact lens vision!! Sure, I could put on my glasses, but this means everytime I want to consumer a few chapters I’ll have to make the switch. This sucks.

    • iampissed

      That’s why I like kindle…sorry.

      • Ella Raitch

        Me too

    • iampissed

      You used the word Davenport… I remember when I was a kid from
      SoCal visiting my grandma in Kansas and she used that word.
      I had never heard it and it had to be explained. I think at that moment
      I realized there were names different.

      • Vaquera

        Same with my grandparents. I specifically used it today because waaaaayyyy downthread Juicer said she liked the word. Trying to see if she is still alert and bound to the Bunker at her late hour.

        • iampissed

          It’s a fun word…and I had no reference at 13

          • iampissed

            To me it was a sofa.

            • Baby

              OHIO .. Davenport when I was young.. Couch in adulthood.

            • Gertrudis

              Couch and Davenport at my house, too.

            • Baby

              when we were really little we called it a ” Damport” hahhaa

          • beauty for ashes

            I think our cult should make it our word. We should only have davenports in the Bunker!

        • Juicer77

          WHAT DID I MISS?!?? ๐Ÿ˜‰
          My grandma used to say “davenport.” Sounds much fancier than sofa!

        • Juicer77

          You know you’re supposed to say my name three times and leave out a plate of chocolate bars. Then I will appear.

          • Vaquera

            Whew, no heel clicking. I left my ruby slippers at HowdyCon.

  • But you didn’t have to cut us off
    Make out like it never happened and that we were crazy
    And we really need your cash
    But you treat us like a danger and that feels so rough
    No you didn’t have to stoop so low
    Move several dozen times and then change your name and number
    I guess that we need your dough
    Now you’re just somebody that we used to know
    Now you’re just somebody that we used to know
    Now you’re just somebody that we used to know

    • Now and then I think of all the times you screwed me over
      But had me believing it was always something that I’d done
      But I don’t wanna live that way
      Reading in every word Hubbard say
      You said that you could let me go
      And I wouldn’t catch you hung up on by somebody that you used to know

    • Noesis

      The original Gotye music video is among the better of the genre over the past 5 years…IMHO.

      Talk about PTS! Lol.

      The video has received more than 800 million views.

      Your new lyrics are pretty amusing too.

  • iampissed

    Why dose it say purif at the bottom?

    • Vaquera

      Because the leaflet included with the letter is for the purif. You can see a bit of it in the lower left hand corner.

      • iampissed

        Thank you Vaquera..I did see the rundown thing but didn’t put together.
        Again thanks for helping.

        • Vaquera

          Pas de quoi.

  • Jon S

    dogged … hound … only just got that, good pun, well done

  • Stinky Wizzleteets

    Hello. I’m friends with Dodo the Laser (Think I spelt that right) I’ve been stalking this page for about 2 years now and never commented because of 3 reasons. #1: I didn’t have anything to say. #2: I’m learning about Scientology. And in all honesty #3:Fear. I’m afraid I’ll go into some kind of Scientology master “In” file and suddenly I’ll start seeing pamphlets and mailings. But this post reminded me of my brief brush with Scientology and I would like to share.

    It was either Spring or Summer 2000. I was waiting to meet my girlfriend for lunch in Downtown Cincinnati and arrived early. So I was walking the streets, killing time, when this attractive blonde lady walked up to me. She started talking to me and asked if I’d like a free stress test. Well, I had several hours to kill (Told ya I was early) and I figured why not. We walked up to a building that had seen better days I’m sure. I was hesitant but she convinced me it’s all right. I asked if she was going to try and kill me and she giggled and said, “No.” We rode the elevator up to a floor that looked like an overstuffed office. There were desks everywhere and most of them had people behind them. Some with people doing the tests. I asked if this was a market research type thing and she said no and flashed me a smile. I don’t remember the conversation much after that or even the test itself. but she told me I was stressed out and started asking personal questioned. Which I answered honestly. I finally asked what this was and she started talking about Scientology and how great it was.

    Just then, I had a flashback.

    A couple of weeks before, I had watched a report on I believe was 20/20. It was about how the grand daughter (Or maybe niece. I’m sure someone can correct me) of Scientology’s founder leaving the church. How she called it a cult and a scam. The one thing that peaked my interest was that they took your money from you. Like you have to give 80% of your pay to the church.

    So I stopped her and brought up that interview. She told me it was a lie and that the woman was paid to say those things from 20/20. I said, “No. That’s a news show. It’ll ruin their integrity if they paid someone to slander an organization.” She maintained it was a lie and that the church wasn’t like that. I kept asking about the money and she finally said, “Yes. You would want to give your money to the church just like any other religious organizations out there. I let her know that I would not give any of my pay to any church because non of them deserve it. Esp one that’s obviously in need of it. (I was making $450 every two weeks at Wendy’s at the time.) She asked if I was interested at all and I said, “Nope.” I stood up and she asked me a couple of times to sit back and talk. Another man comes up and begins to tell me how great Scientology is and that money isn’t the real issue. That Scientology can give me what I need. I said, “All I need is my girlfriend, my apartment and my midget porn on Betamax. I’m happy.” (I could tell when I said Midget porn, it startled the lady.) I asked if I could leave. I gave a quick look to the guy who was really close to me and had his hand on my shoulder. He saw the look, removed his hand, backed away and said, “Yeah. You can go.” The lady kept asking me for my address and I gave her one. (Turned out to be the address of Papa Johns Pizza in Amelia, Ohio.) And I left.

    So my friends. The reason why I didn’t get involved in Scientology is because I’m cheap.

    I love reading the comments on this page and am happy that everyone here has left and found peace. I’m sorry to hear about those who have family and friends still involved and has been disconnected. All I can say is stay strong and keep doing what you’re doing. I’ll still be stalking the page and will occasionally comment. Although I still have that fear about getting a Scientology postcard. Hey. If I do, I’ll post it!

    Have a great night and may peace be with you all.

    • Vaquera

      I’ve only read as far as “Hello. I’m friends with Dodo the Laser.”
      That’s all I needed to initiate your upvote tally. Welcome! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you very much. He is a great guy.

        • Vaquera

          True words! We’re partial to him.

        • No, you are a great guy.

      • You so kind ๐Ÿ™‚

      • ReallyMGM

        Welcome.
        Dodo is “good people.”
        I spit Diet Coke all over my iPad at the “midget porn” comment.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Your instincts and an accurate 20/20 report may have saved you from a life of indentured servitude and years of sleep deprivation, no time off and a whole host of even worse possibilities ๐Ÿ˜‰

      Interestingly both the grandaughter of the cherch’s founder, L.Ron Hubbard and the niece of the cherch’s leader escaped the cult. In fact, I believe that all of the family of the current cherch leader, David Miscavige, is now out of the cult, except for his wife, Shelly, who disappeared over a decade ago and was spirited away to one of the cult’s most secret and secure locations…all in all, not exactly a happy tale of loving family and tight bonds for either of the cherch’s two leaders.

      Peace be upon you as well

      • Vaquera

        Is his twin sister, Denise, out?

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Yes, I believe she is.

          • Baby

            Harpoona.. look at Intergalactic Walrus post above.. baby

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Aren’t his sisters still in? Aren’t they the ones who disconnected from daddy Miscavige and this is what angered Lisa Marie Presley?

          • Vaquera

            There you go. Thx.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        I still had a life of indentured servitude and years of sleep deprivation, no time off and a whole host of even worse possibilities. I became a single father in 2005. lol.

        And yes. Once I got the internet, I started researching Scientology. Full time since 2009. And I’m glad I didn’t fall for it. But can see how enticing it can be for people.

    • Username

      I was a 2 year reader up until two weeks ago when I finally felt like I had something to say. I received a great welcome and compliments on my first post. I’m not just saying if this… But I really liked your first post. Especially the Betamax ๐Ÿ™‚ Look forward to reading more from you.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        thank you. Everyone here seems nice and great people. And I still have the Betamax. Although never really had Midget Porn. That’s what the internet is for. lol

        • PerpetualOutflow

          You are very funny. Welcome.

          • Stinky Wizzleteets

            Thank you very much.

        • Ella Raitch

          Oh I like you. You’re a keeper

          • Stinky Wizzleteets

            Huggies.

      • beauty for ashes

        Did you have a Betamax too? They were supposedly better. **sigh** I swear my parents still have taped episodes of Max Headroom on Betamax.

        • Username

          No but my uncle did. I think those machines are ready for the museum ๐Ÿ™‚

          • beauty for ashes

            Tell your uncle I’m coming over, I’m dying to see if these tapes still work! ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Username

              That was a “did”. The new guy has one :)). Max head room would be great.

            • beauty for ashes

              IKR? It might not be as good as i remember, that’s is the only thing.

            • Stinky Wizzleteets

              I do still have a Betamax player. As well as a VHS, Laserdisc, DVD, HD-DVD, BluRay and CED. But Max Headroom was released on DVD a bit ago. Might be easier than coming to Northern Ky.

    • Liberated

      You made the right choice, wish I had.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        It’s a learning experience. The good news is you are out now. That’s all that matters. Hold your head high.

    • Hahaha! You told me this story before, but never in such great detail.
      Thank you for sharing it with The Bunker, my friend. I am lucky to know you, btw.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        And I am lucky to have you as a friend. Thank you for being there.

        • Remember the day I told you I was declared Suppressive Person, might have my family disconnect from me and might have no place to sleep that night?

          You (and another friend) offered your shoulder and your place. On a darkest day of my life. So there is also that.

    • What’sup

      Any friend of Dodo’s is a friend of mine. Hi Sw!

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you. I feel the same.

    • OOkpik

      Welcome..umm..Stinky.
      Any friend of our beloved Dodo etc.. ๐Ÿ™‚
      Thanks for a great post. I look forward to seeing more from you, should you be so inclined.

      P.S. You don’t have to be a Scientology encyclopedia to comment here. Tony and some of the other knowledgeable posters have that pretty much nailed down. Have fun.

    • What’sup

      I don’t think they really like the term “Midget Porn” though, they much prefer “midget sex acts on film”

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        It was a different time. Different standards. Before political correctness.

        • beauty for ashes

          besides, you were just quoting.

      • (My buddy is a stand up comedian among other things.)

    • Ella Raitch

      Great story. Once again proving that Scientology has its destruction written into its DNA. Welcome on board Stinky!

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you. I’m here everyday. You just don’t see me. lol

    • sundaygirl

      I have worked a block away from that old Scientology office in downtown Cinti for nearly 20 years (until they purchased the new building in Florence, KY, a few years ago). Towards the end of them occupying that space, I never saw a single soul near it. Not even anyone outside smoking, handing out pamphlets, etc. It was a really sad little area. Glad they didn’t get their hooks into you!

    • Ann B Watson

      So good to meet you Stinky,Welcome! My hubby is a never in and feels as you.He does not want to get anything from cos but he does realize why we tell our stories and how important that is.You are very smart to have realized as you did about cos.It is good to greet you.โค๏ธ

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        It’s very nice to meet you. I say tell your stories. Over and over again. Because they are stories that need to be told. And heard.

    • Baby

      Stinky! You made me laugh.. We love Dodo ..Come back often.. You can spin the records inside. f5

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/137ac94270138cfc9e07ee1696e8bdff566da59eef3cc441226c3cce300821d6.jpg . So we welcome you!

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you. Hope you like The Monkees.

        • Baby

          Of Course!

    • Should have said 1060 West Addison, Chicago IL. It’s traditional.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HsHjW8rBRk0

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        I just wanted to get out of there and said random things. I usually use 525 Elm St, Cincinnati, OH 45202 but I thought they would figure that out.

      • ThetaBara

        I used to work down the street from that place. On game days we always had to do drunk removal.

    • beauty for ashes

      I’ve been making up songs all day to amuse my Mom, to “Oh my darling Clementine” Now I’m just gonna start singing “Stinky Wizzleteets” ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ welcome to zee Bunker!!!!

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        I would love to hear it. Here’s where I got the name. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eVM1nUmDHHc

        • beauty for ashes

          I would only make up the one line, and it was always about opioid related constipation! The worse thing is i can’t remember even one, and one was genuinely funny!

          • Stinky Wizzleteets

            Yeah. I need to write my stuff down because I will forget it.

        • First time I see it. So very apt.

    • aquaclara

      Outstanding first post, and a perfect comment on how Scientology lures people in. I’m a never-in, too, and have seen upfront the damage this damn cult has created for so many.

      Now, welcome and stay for a while. We like pics of puppies and cats, but especially caek. The bar is open in the back, and there’s plenty of popcorn. And tacos.

      Don’t be a stranger….all are welcome! Really.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you. I’ll bring the movie to watch. More than likely a comedy.

    • ithilien

      A ripping yarn.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I’ve been posting here for nearly five years and have not one untoward thing happen. Although I do wonder where my mother is and if they will ever return her…

      • ThetaBara

        Likewise, plus doing live in person “raids” at my local org. I’ve seen you, and you’ve seen me (in the world’s cheesiest wig, haha!) But the scilons? They don’t have the thetanpower to track us all. I even got to pose by “my” star, just down the street from their HQ (the HGB). & there was nothing they could do about it!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I have photos of you! And your, er, wig.

    • Mrs. V.

      My husband, Mr. V. had wondered into the org in LA nearly 30 years ago. He was the exact type of person they were looking for at that time – he was just out of a relationship that ended pretty badly and he was looking for himself. Luckily, he had the wherewithal to recognize that this pretty girl who was trying to sell him books and courses was probably not what she seemed. He turned her down and she was “not happy” (his words). He never looked back and we’re all happy for it.

    • kemist

      Don’t worry, I never received anything. They’re not likely to go after a never in, except maybe if you participate in protests (there are safety rules to follow if you want to do that). The worse I got was a couple trolls I had pissed off posting nasty shit on my old posts, but that was more amusing than scary. These days they can’t even be bothered to send us trolls.

      It’s a whole other story if you were a member and somebody recognizes you from your writing – the scientology community is quite small and closed, so it’s relatively easy to connect the dots and guess who an ex member is.

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        That’s what worried me when I knew Dodo left Scientology. I had read a story (Don’t remember whose) about a woman who left. She was asked by someone to talk to their daughter about her experiences. She did. Left and got a phone call from someone in the church. She got on a plane and when she landed the same person was there. This woman described the harassment she received and the lies the church told. I was honestly scared for Dodo for a good couple of months.

    • Graham

      “Another man comes up and begins to tell me …..that money isn’t the real issue.” After which he tried telling me black was white and up was down!

    • Juicer77

      Welcome! Glad you gave them some lip. Well done. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Thank you.

    • Eliza Doolittle

      Such a creepy story.
      Thanks for sharing.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Dear Stinky,

      It was either Spring or Summer 2000 when you were waiting to meet your girlfriend for lunch in Downtown Cincinnati and arrived early. You visited our Scientology Org.

      We haven’t heard from you since and grow increasingly concerned about you with each passing day. You as a thetan are in danger without Scientology. You need to get the exact data.

      Please come to the Org immediately. And don’t bring your pal Dodo with you because he spreads entheta and is a merchant of chaos. He works for SMERSH and has destroyed planets on the wholetrack.

      Love,

      Don Brylcreem
      Letter Reg
      Cincinnati Org

      • Stinky Wizzleteets

        Dear Don,

        Thank you for your concern about my thetan-ness. It makes my heart good to know that there are people out there who are concerned for my safety.

        However, due to the fact that I have an important mixer with Xenu and Jesus, I must pass on the invitation. However, I shall keep your letter on file and stare at it fondly when I am feeling lonely.

        Warmest regard,
        Stinky Wizzleteets
        Founder: International Concern for Flounder Safety
        KY

        P.S. Dodo says hello.

        • BraveBloggers

          Up vote x’s 10 for being the “Founder” of Flounder Safety.

      • ThetaBara

        At least you don’t have to worry about me. I’ve only ever destroyed plants.

        • Stinky Wizzleteets

          We all need hobbies.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Welcome Stinky! I love that the 20/20 interview tipped you off, and when you brought it up they started sliming.

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      That is SUCH a cool story! Now how funny would it be if someday a woman tells the story of how she eventually got out of CO$ and says “Well I gave this guy a personality test….. Asked about the money, I had to lie…. Betamax… Midget porn… Should’ve known then, but it started me doubting….” That would be the BEST full circle exit story EVER!

      And I agree – friends w/Dodo was your 1st “he’s good peeps”
      Gold Star, then Dodo had to make us all misty-eyed with what a great friend you were even back then, not to mention you’re hilarious! Yeah you fit in here quite perfectly! Hugs and welcome!

  • salin

    Bunker appreciation thread – for the day’s installment and the comments. Click the recommend/heart to give an upvote for the day’s Bunker.

    In appreciation I share real space opera. Not the past lives induced memories type – but the sky gazing in real-time type. Aurora’s have kicked up in the northern hemisphere – and individual’s have captured moments from different parts of the world and shared them on an NASA website – Spaceweather.com

    Yesterday in Yellowlife, Canada: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=129535&PHPSESSID=48go67fkomaqmj4dchb8k27ui0

    Sept 22 in the Lofoten Islands in Norway: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=129524&PHPSESSID=48go67fkomaqmj4dchb8k27ui0

  • Bob Crouch

    So folks are driven out of the “church” because of semicolons? Hubbard was such a terrible writer that it took a high school drop-out to fix his “scriptures?”

    Frankly, that is NOT my experience (“my truth”). I picked up Dianetics and read: “The creation of dianetics is a milestone for Man comparable to his discovery of fire and superior to his inventions of the wheel and arch.”

    That was it! I figured that they don’t call it “the “Science of Mental” for no reason, and didn’t stick round to check the grammar and punctuation.

    • aquaclara

      I’m going to spread a rumor that everyone left because the food was so awful. At least this way, those still in might start to see better meals.

      • Bob Crouch

        Hm. So now that the “rumor” has been spread that the little man beats his minions, do you think that he has become an ambassador of kindness and goodwill?

        • aquaclara

          Haha, ok. He had better stick to the semicolons. Much simpler!

  • Observer

    Apparently you can take a quiz on the Pottermore website to find out what your Patronus is. If only this one were a real result.

    F5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/201999eaf4f3d6eff379dc61298fba908177f48e4195d7088c59103c68b90f57.jpg

  • Techie

    Late night (in the Midwest) off topic: I just finished “Fair Game” and seemingly left the first Amazon review for the Kindle version. Definitely worth reading even if you have read Jon Atack and Russell Miller. He did an interview with the guy who did “The Shrinking World of L Ron Hubbard” and there is information there that I have seen nowhere else. Also, a long section on Terri Gamboa, one of the early messengers with Hubbard on the Apollo and “lifetime trustee” of the RTC board. Lots of good stuff about the banning of Scientology in Australia and the Chelmsford “Deep Sleep” incident. No spoilers here, but I think we will be talking about this one for a while.

    • beauty for ashes

      Just want to know if the guy who interviewed Hubs mentioned his breath. Just have to know. I mean sixty years later i bet het can still remember! Why don’t they talk about this more?

      • Liberated

        I guess hubs didn’t have the tech on ” brushing one’s teeth”

        I remember talking to a girl who had seen him during those later years and said he was fat,
        his hair was dirty and scraggy, and his teeth were rotten. I remember being shocked, he wasn’t suppose to be that way. You mean this guy who claimed to cure mankind’s ills couldn’t get it together to shampoo his hair and brush his teeth? Gross! What a pig!

        • beauty for ashes

          You know and he had soooo many people who would do just about anything for him. That’s just sad.
          I wonder if he told himself no one notices your teeth are rotten until he no longer noticed it. Kind of a science fiction like thought , but hey!

        • meerameezer (wogsy)

          He obviously did not follow “The Way to Happiness”.

          • Liberated

            I’ve always considered TWTH as a ridiculous joke, and I doubt if he even wrote it.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Thought the same thing…not to give him too much credit, but it truly is a ridiculous, trite cliche. At the time, I thought it was some ill conceived PR effort that went astray.

            • ThetaBara

              The Way to Happiness… is OUT!

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Hi! I’ve not been on much but it is truly wonder to see you! XXXOOO-Todd

            • meerameezer (wogsy)

              Squeeee!!!! Hi, Todd!! Hope all is well. Glad to see you’re still around,too! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • MaxSpaceman

        Because in recall, even across 30-40-50 years, the smell was so atrocious and decaying teeth appeared so horrific, that that is why they don’t talk about it more ?

      • Bo

        Spoiler alert: There was at least one comment in the book about his breath. Enough said.

        • beauty for ashes

          Bo, this just mad me so happy if I had a tail I would wag it!!!! hee hee hee!!!!

    • Bo

      I’ve read just over half the book. It is hard to put it down. Very well written. And if there was any doubt that Hubbard was a sociopath, this book will take care of that. Miscavage learned from the “best” and just fine tuned the cruelty and sociopathy. I hope this book gets distributed everywhere. Can’t believe that such a good book was so inexpensive.

  • grundoon

    Per LRH policy, the Chruch never stops sending you mail – unless they have placed your folder in the “dead file.” You get into the Dead File by sending them an Entheta Letter – or if they declare you a Suppressive Person.

    AN ENTHETA LETTER is a letter containing insult, discourtesy, chop or nastiness about an org, its personnel, Scientology or the principal figures in Scientology. …

    In the old days when a squawk came through org personnel rushed it to the head of the line, or to the Registrar or anywhere in the org. This gave a weird view. The head of the org or the Registrar or executives began to think it was all mad dog. They only had the 20%. Nobody showed them the 80%. Because the 20% required โ€œspecial actionโ€ and consumed time Registrars would soon believe the Academy and HGC contained only mobs of dissatisfied people. Heads of orgs would begin to believe the public was sour on them. Theyโ€™d react accordingly. They never went down to CF and really looked. So they got a twisted idea of the state of the org, the workability of tech. They let down. They tended to stop trying, convinced by the minority 20% it was not working. …

    Ethics Files shall include a DEAD FILE. This File includes all persons who write nasty or choppy letters to an org or its personnel. Rather than go to the trouble of issuing a Suppressive Person order or even investigating we assign writers of choppy letters to the DEAD FILE. When their area is enturbulated and we want to locate a suppressive we can always consult our DEAD FILE for possible candidates and then investigate and issue an order. …

    The actual action is simply to cut comm. You can always let entheta lines drop. … We used to have an HCO category known as โ€œNon-Co-opโ€ meaning no co-operation from us. People who demanded 90% of our time comprised only a small percent of our people. Such we put on a private non-co-operate list. We just didnโ€™t do anything for them. When they called and demanded action weโ€™d say โ€œuh-huhโ€ and forget it. After a while theyโ€™d wander off our lines and weโ€™d be free of them. Dead File is actually only an extension of โ€œnon-co-opโ€. It was we who didnโ€™t co-operate.

    Dead File does not cover business firms demanding bills, government squawks or dangerous suits or situations. It covers only entheta public letters received on any line including SO #1. …

    It is the full intention that: 1. All choppy, nattery, rumour-mongery letters dead end in the DEAD FILE. 2. That no further magazines or procurement letters go to the person. 3. That no staff personnel be enturbulated by the content of such letters. 4. That the line be cut completely. 5. That a record remain in Ethics. …

    The DEAD FILE is the best possible file for tracing trouble in an investigation. Only when a hot investigation comes up is it looked at by Ethics. Then all names found in an area are cross referenced by making copies of the letters they contain, and filing those under the new names, and the Suppressive is located by the simple expedient of thus finding the fattest file and an order is issued. …

    Therefore all SPs, PTS, and entheta letters all wind up in the DEAD FILE. This cuts their comm and still keeps track of them. …

    Being DEAD FILED does not result in action but neither does it debar further action. DEAD FILE is the first place to look in cases of trouble. Further action may then be taken such as an Ethics Order.

    How does a person ever get out of the Dead File? One could somehow discover without our help he or she was in the Dead File (we never inform them). If so he or she could take it up with the Ethics Officer. But the probable outcome may just be more Dead File. How do you resurrect the dead? Release and Clear of course. How can they get it then if turned off by Estimations? Well, a cleared cannibal is still only a cleared cannibal so who needs them? Iโ€™d rather solve the problems of those who were decent to us. We didnโ€™t put them in the shape theyโ€™re in. Thatโ€™s their problem.

    — L. Ron Hubbard
    HCO POLICY LETTER OF 7 JUNE 1965 – ENTHETA LETTERS AND THE DEAD FILE, HANDLING OF

    • Jimmy3

      Oh, you done with DEAD FILE? You all done now? I can help you with that…

      MORE DEAD FILE FOR YOU.

    • Gertrudis

      What a smug, egomaniacal fool.

      The ravings of a madman …

    • kemist

      In other words, “you’re not rejecting me, I’m rejecting you” and “You’ll be punished for rejecting me.”

      Textbook narcissistic reaction.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Thank you for posting this!

    • We are all doomed! The CF is one big DEAD file

    • Frodis73

      And sci’s hold this “man” up as a humanitarian. *puke*

    • Baby
      • Mymy88

        I deleted this.

        • Baby

          I thought you were sweetie.. YAY.. Woo Hoo..

    • Juicer77

      “Choppy”? How about the drivel they are spewing out these days?

    • Interested2

      Seriously…..!!!! I must have a lot of MUs cause I don’t understand all that c .. P

      • Todd Tomorrow

        It’s OK it’s a musty planet.

      • You don’t understand *DEAD FILE*
        As in they are DEAD!!…. DEAD DEAD DEAD
        Hubsy hated homo sapiens all the way down in the Central Files! Lot’s of dead people down there. DEAD!

      • Mark Foster

        It’s just a variation on a lifetime theme of malignant narcissism.
        He doesn’t give a fuck.
        His mission is to enslave and manipulate and focus on the people from whom he can extract the maximum amount of money and ‘compliance’ . He always obfuscates and confuses as part of his whole hypnotic, relentless mind fuck. He uses big words, run-on sentences, and pseudo-scientific mumbo jumbo as the diarrhea icing on his hefty shit-cake “applied philosophy”.
        Ron is right, the rest of us are wrong.
        Amex, Master, or Visa?

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Chiming in. I will have to say that I got my sister’s ex husband on the COS mailing list so hopefully he gets 8 pds. of mail a month. Normally I’d never waste trees but this guy turned out to be a total creep.

    • The ultimative revenge, also give them a phone number… at work!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I’ll put it on my list for Mon. Funny thing about the mail is my nephew has actually seen the mail arriving at his Dad’s flat; mission accomplished!

    • (((dagobarbz)))

      LOL that’s funny. I did the same thing to a problem jerk who was bothering my sister. Now he’s on their mailing list and, fwiw, I filled out his Free Personality Test for him.
      Tee-hee…

  • Dave Reams

    “When their area is enturbulated and we want to locate a suppressive we can always consult our DEAD FILE for possible candidates and then investigate and issue an order”

    — Sounds like the lists the Nazi’s used to keep of people in the countries they were planning to invade – people who would promptly be arrested and murdered

    “How does a person ever get out of the Dead File? One could somehow discover without our help he or she was in the Dead File (we never inform them) [โ€ฆ] How do you resurrect the dead? Release and Clear of course. ”

    — Yes, clearing them with process R2-45, “a process guaranteed to release an exteriorize a thetan” “swiftly and without sorrow”.

    • Newiga

      Awww… Poor Dice. Here:

      Dear Dice,

      According to our records you and LRH had a chat back in 200000 trillion billion BC when both of your thetans still inhabited clam bodies. That’s awesome! How did that chat work out for you? Have you read Dianetics or Scientology books in this life time?

      Lemme know!

      ML,

      Reggie McReg
      Letter Registrar
      Church of Scientology

      • Graham

        PS: Why do you keep ignoring our phone calls? Stop ignoring our phone calls. You do know what happens to people who ignore our phone calls?

        Much Love (Ha!)

        Reggie

        • Newiga

          PPS: PLEEEEEASE! Answer my comm attempts! They’ll sign me to lower conditions if you don’t!

          Much Love,

          Your pal (pretty please) Reggie

      • McReg ๐Ÿ™‚ thankueee

        • Todd Tomorrow

          And ARC

      • I once talked to a Clam after she read a book about 2 thetans habituated one body! – Hers! Ha ha… She was not happy about it.

        • (((dagobarbz)))

          Tch. She thought she only had two thetans? I would have schooled her. She’s COVERED in thetans! Probably millions of ’em!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        You forgot, ARC

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Dear Dice I love you more…
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PM2rXiBM-qY

      • wtf are she singing lol
        EDIT: Is ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Todd Tomorrow

          ?, She is singing…
          ML&ARC Todd

          • listen to the lyric i mean

            • LongtimeLurker

              That’s Sarah’s whole thing. Pretending to be a bigot to mock bigotry.

              It may be worth noting that she’s been accused of being an actual bigot more than once.

            • i like it

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I love her. My favorite X-mas song
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gRGMOhslq0

            • Todd Tomorrow

              And she really isn’t. part of her shickt

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Humor is a great basis to disrupt anything.
          ML& ARC Todd

  • Mr. Bird is Dismantling Monty on his blog http://mbnest.blogspot.dk/

    • Graham

      Interesting critique of he-who-I-can’t-be-bothered-to-name. “He has never displayed above average aptitude at anything”. Apart from bullying and obfuscation. Have to give him top marks for both of those surely?

      • LongtimeLurker

        I say it and say it and everyone tells me I’m wrong. From the available evidence (which is not a valid way to judge someone you’ve never met, I know) I just don’t think he’s smart.

        • Gertrudis

          If he was really smart, he probably wouldn’t have to try so hard to seem smart.

          Your new frock is fetching, by the way. Between your costume changes and ‘sup’s name changes, there’s mirth and merriment at the Bunker.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Thanks,I think it sets off my eyes.

            Yes, he definitely has a (desperate) desire to be perceived as smart and serious.

            • Gertrudis

              Well, we’ve got a few minutes before the new post is up. Let’s talk about Quokkas!
              Interestingly, they are nocturnal marsupials and are some of the smallest members of the macropod family, which also includes kangaroos and wallabies. Also, they can climb trees to find leaves to eat.
              Sadly, the mother Quokka will eject her offspring out of the pouch and onto the ground to distract predators and give her (the mother) time to get away.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Wow. That took a very dark turn.

            • Gertrudis

              They’re cute, but cold-hearted.

            • (((dagobarbz)))

              Smart Quokkas… humans just hike with people they know they can outrun…

            • Mark Foster

              Forsooth, the polysyllabic ruminations of an insistently onanistic autodidact publicly advertising the arc, trajectory, and distance of his pseudo-philosophical ejaculations are
              magnificently…boring…

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Where is your handsome mug Mark Foster?

          • beauty for ashes

            no one says that anymore ๐Ÿ™ your frock is fetching! I dig it.

        • Why do you think David took away all his Certificates? Loool

    • LongtimeLurker

      I love that you call him Monty.

      • Monty python’s flying creepshow

        • LongtimeLurker

          Ha!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Hey Sweetpants, what’s shakin’ in AU.?
        Sweetpants definition/ Urban dictionary
        A nickname given to only the closest and most highest ranking friends you have
        Wow dude! you stoped a bullet for me! You Rock Sweetpants!
        #sweetpants #awesome #fresh #boss #cool

        • LongtimeLurker

          Yo! Nothing exciting to tell, Awesome Fresh Boss. Hoping this week will be a bit better than last.

          How are you? Any news?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Great all good news. My asst’s finger that got tore completely off in a soccer game is going to make it after micro surgery and six days in ICU. Playing lots of cards. Breaking a bit above average after a two week winning streak. Mercury must be in retrograde. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/26fb7af2f9db814b72d2588652b2fc26aeb4aee2b73a5e1bf9acb85b6205892e.jpg
            Note to my married mate’s. Take off your wedding ring before you play sports. Just jumping over a fence to fetch a ball caught my friend’s finger and it was tore completely off. Luckily, he was admitted at a hospital that started micro surgery.
            Edit: Taken with Iphone 6

            • LongtimeLurker

              I need to not see that.

            • (((dagobarbz)))

              Soccer, huh? Is that why they don’t let you use your hands?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Yes, the ball got kicked over a fence and he went to fetch it.

            • (((dagobarbz)))

              Ahhh…it looks INCREDIBLY painful1 Hope he got better!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Thanks he’s,”out of the woods now.’

            • (((dagobarbz)))

              Good. Lots of therapy at home, give it two years and he’ll be almost good as new. I base this on some injuries of my own. Patience, and postulates! ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Yeah, I broke my arm in half years ago. It did take a great deal to get my wrist working again. Hurt so bad I promised myself I’d never bitch about another thing if I could get it working again..

            • Susan B.

              I’m so glad for him. Tell him a complete stranger he will never meet wishes him a speedy recovery. : )

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Thanks, it was an amazing surgery job!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      monty still on the $cion attack minus the lanyard. It shows he is on our sight all the time rueining his day. Silly monty just lick bm’s ballsack and he’ll let you back in along with the beatings and the sodomy. Creep!

  • Are_sics

    At least they value literacy … kind of…

  • Juicer77

    O/T – having issues with the wildlife camera… have to play with the settings. I don’t need any more footage of squirrels or the dog pooping!! LOL

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      What are you hoping to catch on the cam?

      • Juicer77

        Hedgehogs, possibly a fox or two. For some reason the camera is not working at night even though I know Hogzilla visited (I saw him). Playing with the settings to see what is going on.

        • (((dagobarbz)))

          Hedgehogs?
          You must not be living in the Colonies…

          • Juicer77

            No, ma’am. Temporary relocation to the UK. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • (((dagobarbz)))

              Seen any? I think they call them tiggies over thar.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Use an iphone. Even techless Todd takes great photos.

    • (((dagobarbz)))

      Install a bird feeder…then you’ll get hawks. Much more interesting than pooping dogs, unless they’re pooping on squirrels.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    G’night all.

    • Ann B Watson

      Sleep well,love your comments.๐Ÿ’—

  • Central Files is “the mind of the org” according to Elwrong. I was Dir. of Procurement (go ahead, laugh, but that’s what it was called) at Celebrity Centre and we got CF in PT (present time) which I was told the first time that had ever happened in a $cientology organization. That meant we had everything filed that should be filed and were on top of our game. At that time I wrote about 1000 letters a week on a partable Olivetti, making a carbon copy each time and filing that copy in the folder before grabbing the next one. One time I wrote over 1300 letters in a week. Why am I telling you this? Because the policy is – and Sea Ogres believe that, as do other staff, because “Ron said” – that if anyone ever comes in and pays for something, even a book, they will eventually go Clear. But this current situation – particularly HANDWRITING a letter – shows how desperate the cult is, and they’re trying to find someone / anyone to come back in and be fleeced or refleeced. By paying X millions to track down the new addresses of people that can’t possibly be protiable so they’re bleeding money to try to make some. Makes me LMAO.

  • secret-hedgehog

    I used to write these letters back in the 80′ before being released from a day of study at St Hill. All I wanted to do was go and get a coffee and a cigarette. But first I had to applaud someones’ inane wins and then knock out a few of these letters. I would use the ridiculously large scrawl to fill the page with as few sentences as possible, while telepathically apologizing to the receiver and then get out the door.

  • Iconoclast Six โ™ฅ Nasty Women

    An ex-boyfriend with a puerile sense of humor gave my wife’s name and address to Scientology before we were married. They sent her junk mail for years. On each one, we wrote “REFUSED” and sent them back. The letters stopped. Then, after three moves and 15 years, she got another one. We refused that one too, and so far no more.

    Oh, and if you’re wondering…I didn’t give the ex’s contact info to Jehovah’s Witnesses, Amway, the Seventh Day Adventists, and NAMBLA. Because that would be really, really wrong.

  • Exesso

    I was on the RPF with Nick years ago. He is a truly nice guy. Sorry to see he is still there slaving away…at least he’s off the RPF though. ๐Ÿ˜’

  • Apparently the Scientology Crime Syndicate is trying to buy property in Frederick County, MD for a new Narconon fraud and abuse facility. The very thought of these child abusing, slaveholding, brainwashing animals expanding in my state makes me sick to my stomach.