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Beware, protesters: Scientology has been training attack dogs at a Clearwater warehouse

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We have a really strange story for you today. We have no idea what Scientology is thinking on this one, but its employees have been spotted training guard dogs to attack at one of its Florida properties.

One of the Church of Scientology’s less well known facilities is a laundry building owned by the Flag Service Organization which is on the northeast corner of N. Hercules Ave. and Calumet St, about four miles east and north of the Fort Harrison Hotel, the Flag Land Base centerpiece in downtown Clearwater.

The building sits on a large parcel at 2000 Calumet St., which includes trees and a lawn. And on that lawn, Scientology employees have been seen training guard dogs, including an exercise having the dogs attack a man wearing a special protective suit.

“Last week they had a guy in the ‘attack’ suit and we were watching the dogs attack him. This week they’ve been walking the dogs back and forth working them with commands,” says our eyewitness.

At our request, our tipster managed to take a photo of a man with a dog to back up his observations, but he said the exercises with the attack suit were already concluded.

 
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Here’s a map we put together to help you understand what you’re looking at in that photo, with the p.o.v. of the photographer pointed out…

 
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Protests at Scientology facilities reached a peak in the early months of 2008 as the Anonymous movement turned its attention to the church. But demonstrations today tend to be much smaller and more sporadic. Why would Scientology need trained attack dogs at the Flag Land Base?

One of the most prolific protesters at the Flag Land Base is Alex Hageli, a/k/a Darth Xander. We asked him if he’d seen Scientology security guards with dogs.

“Two separate times that I can recall. Last time about a year ago. Both times in front of the Fort Harrison Hotel,” he told us.

We asked for his reaction to what our tipster had seen, dogs being trained to attack.

“It’s definitely an escalation of things. Especially considering the lack of any consistent protester presence at Flag for the past several years now. Even with that, they have at least one private investigator there seemingly all the time (the guy who Mark Bunker chatted with when David Miscavige opened the remodeled West Coast Building), plus one or two more for big events like the birthday party. If anything, things should be cooling off. There’s definitely no need for training attack dogs.

“The first time they brought a dog out it kind of startled me. I got used to it after awhile, but I didn’t realize they are apparently keeping and training them (I thought maybe they had borrowed the dog or something). Maybe with the injunction being a non-issue now they feel they need to ramp up. I don’t know. The paranoia runs deep.”

We sent a message to Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw yesterday, asking for some clarification on why the Flag Land Base needs attack dogs. We’ll let you know if she gets back to us.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on September 23, 2016 at 07:00

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  • Baby

    Just got back from a ride with Lulu.. Mac took our picture.. So of course.. I told her about the Attack Dogs of Scilooneytunes.. so she insisted I post this. f5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/78416834268a781f6969db90f1421c9375a87e17836fdae3aeefe2fd92b67f4e.jpg

    • Baby

      I had to redo it cause I put ACS hahhaha.. I forgot what the hell our name was..

    • Vaquera

      That’s a keeper!

      • Baby

        Beautiful night for a ride Texas.. and then it started to sprinkle.. sigh.. We just started to ride this week.. finally.. Yay..

    • Jo

      That dog is super cute and so are u, gimmie that dog.

    • Draco

      Great pic!

      • Baby

        It would have cost $5 to have a bubble for Lulu’s words.. ha thanks Drac..

    • thetastic

      You both look so cute!

      • Baby

        Awww thanks Theta.. All I have to do is put my tennis shoes on..( I always wear flip flops) and she spins in circles… So excited..!

        • Juicer77

          Glad you got on the road again!! xoxo

          • Baby

            Me too Juice.. I can’t stay on the bike as long as I did before, but that’s OK.. I’ll ease into it.. thanks honi.. xo

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Very good to see you back on the bike. xxoo

      • Baby

        My sternum was killing me after about 1/2 hr. so will have to make quick spurts.. until this shit stops..ugh.. thanks Rev.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Right sweetie, slow and easy for awhile.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Draco

      Sleazy lawyer is as sleazy lawyer does.

  • Justin Castillo

    How else would you replace those that blow for good? #PavlovBeProud

  • FredEX2

    After deliberately making a snide remark about COB within earshot of everyone…it took Larry just 23hrs and 41minutes to swim to the other side of Aruba unseen after he was tossed overboard off the starboard side of the Freewinds…exactly as he had planned when plotting his escape…Secretly pleased…he shook himself and trotted off…knowing he was finally free…and he lived happily ever after.
    F5
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/817c5c5b17bed37d6a903387c9f1e6a8f3e46701c00b92e90dbc7f5e26b58e2f.jpg

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Missionary Kid

      Either laugh at the barista or get them fired for propaganda. 😀

    • Draco

      Or maybe it stands for TO?

      • Missionary Kid

        I missed that. Good one.

    • Ann B Watson

      So cute,but no tip because us OTs don’t need no stinking money!❤️❤️

  • Justin Castillo
  • Vaquera

    Ok peeps, tell the truth….Who’s hanging out and chattering here tonight because they want to be the person who posts the 1.5 millionth comment?

    • Jimmy3

      I’m setting pace for 2 million.

      • Vaquera

        and we are the better for it.

      • Jo

        Shakes head, eleventy billion.

    • Draco

      I don’t even know how to tell how many comments we are on. Where do you see it?

      • Vaquera

        Tony sees it.
        add: For those who didn’t see Tony’s comment earlier today, he said that tonight or tomorrow the Bunker will reach 1.5 million comments.

        • Draco

          Ah. I missed that!

    • Missionary Kid

      Shouldn’t you be asking which sock of the 47 commentators here will it be?

    • OOkpik

      Depends….What is the prize?

      • Missionary Kid

        A personality test?

      • Vaquera

        10% discount on your next step up the bridge.

      • MissCandle

        If you need Depends, then you are too old for the prize.

        • OOkpik

          Sigh! I saw that one coming.
          *dumps dentures into container to soak and hobbles back to recliner*

  • outraged

    BTW: A Natter Blog! (by Emma (?) from ESMB?), a collaboration of “Greatly Underestimated Rectors of Understanding” (G.U.R.U) and Allen “Alanzo” Stanfield’s production company “Intellectually Distinguished Internet Oracles & Thinkers” (I.D.I.O.T) 😜

    http://natterblog.com/

    This is what drew me….
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/02c3a972d4555ee833c53b2c9138c8a423abe0fb65a14f3e60f0c6b4690614a2.png

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      I can’t wait to the response to this new site, heh heh.

    • Draco

      Nice find!

    • Mrs. V.

      I love it! Great blog!

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Well, that’s all kinds of ironic. I’m sad to be missing the grand opening in the first place (cousin’s wedding to attend tomorrow), and now I won’t get the bonus of heckling scientologists in the process. I wonder if all 4 of them left in DC will show up tomorrow.

  • salin

    Scientology trains attack dogs, meanwhile nature happens. A recent Aurora + “lunar” rainbow in Iceland: 418mtehrqi98bjb3g4fm5ekkj5 Retrying the link: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=129519&PHPSESSID=lf5ng3a7475974p66pats3noh0 did this work? It’s gorgeous. If not – it is on the front page of http://www.Spaceweather.com this evening (or morning – depending from where you are reading.)

  • Missionary Kid
  • order66

    So, That Crazy Midget has gone from having figurative attack dogs in the form of lawyers and OSA agents, to having literal attack dogs. He’s getting more desperate and paranoid. Yeah, this is going to end well.

  • sashiebgood

    is it possible that they’re training attack dogs for the police or some security firm to make money? kinda like guiding eyes for the blind will send puppies to people to socialize? I would think this could be a revenue stream for them and a new and exciting way for DM to get his torture rocks off by sending poor SO kids in the RPF to be the “attack suit” person. idk, it seems very much against their normally open and friendly policy of letting people roam their properties and find out more about the “religion” ;-P

    • Missionary Kid

      Once something is under the control of Co$, they don’t generally release it to others, so I doubt they would train dogs to make money, because handing over a trained dog isn’t something that can be done without a lot of personal interaction. Personal interaction, unless it’s to sell $cientology is something they avoid.

  • Mymy88

    I’d hate to see what this bitch would be like if scientology trained her. But she would scare all the other attack dogs and I suppose that wouldn’t work out too well. [F5] https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7ff89b50dc4ff01c9632179e15fbe13518c385cd12c2bf3eeff981a720e88165.jpg

    • meerameezer (wogsy)

      😉

      • Mymy88

        Awww pretty kitteh (your avi). I used to have a kitty that looked like that. Her name was Zena.

  • aegerprimo

    I hate to be Off Topic…. err OT… but my laptop crashed a few days ago. I backup my stuff every couple of months, but I lost my collection of Co$ bad press for September. I’m bummed right now. I have been reduced to my tablet.

    My laptop, when I purchased it, it came with Windows 8. I always called it Windows Hate. It sucked. A couple of months ago there was a free download of Windows 10. I took the opportunity. But my laptop did not run right since that installation.

    Does any Bunkeroo have suggestions on how I can recover my files? aegerprimo AT hushmail DOT com.

    Thank you.

    • meerameezer (wogsy)

      Do you mean it doesn’t boot up anymore? If your hard drive is still functional, you can remove it from your laptop and plug it into another computer and recover your files that way.

      • aegerprimo

        It does not boot up. It goes in a loop and turns on then off. I googled how to fix that and I get a message that says “system Extensive Test – FAILED”.

        • That’s normally a result of running some HP software which diagnoses hardware problems. The ‘extensive test’ takes about 2 hours and checks everything. http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03463381

          It should tell you what component is faulty. If it doesn’t, either the test didn’t complete correctly (i.e. the test failed, not your hardware) or there’s something so badly wrong with the machine itself the software can’t tell you what it is.

          Assuming that it’s not a hard drive failure, you can buy a cheap USB caddy online, remove your hard drive, install it in the caddy, and access it from another computer.

          • aegerprimo

            Yep…. my laptop is an HP.

            • That test might have been triggered automatically, or by your attempts to fix the problem. You could try to run it again, and see if there actually is a hardware failure.

              Apparently the test can be run even when your PC is FUBAR by

              1) Hold the power button for at least five seconds to turn off the computer.
              2)Turn on the computer and immediately press the F2 key repeatedly, about once every second.

              There are more comprehensive instructions at http://h20564.www2.hp.com/hpsc/doc/public/display?docId=emr_na-c03463381

            • aegerprimo

              I will try that!

          • aegerprimo

            I tried the diagnostic check several times from the link you provided – and it I think I will have to remove my HD. I’m going to order a special cable – I guess you are calling the “USB caddy” ??

            • The cable is good.

              You can also buy a box (the caddy) that you can put a standard HDD into to turn it inot an external drive.

              If it’s a full size drive (out of a desktop)you will need a adaptor with a separate power supply. If it’s a small one (out of a laptop) they usually run off of USB power, and don’t need it.

            • PS there are also externally powered devices with a slot on top and connectors inside. You just drop your removed drive into the slot, and connect the device to a PC with a cable.

              Whatever option you use, be sure it matches the drive standard.

      • aegerprimo

        Wogsy… I am technology saavy. This problem is beyond me. I’m so bummed and I type damn slow on my tablet.

        • meerameezer (wogsy)

          Google system rescue CD and do a hardware test, so you can determine if you have a bad part. Hope that helps 😁

    • dungeon master

      I took mine to a computer repair shop and they retrieved the files off my hard drive and installed a new one. Easy, peasy. And $40 IIRC. Or you could try to find one of your teenaged gamer relatives.. The little (excuse me) shits are amazing. And scary – don’t log your credit card # anywhere. My 4 year old gson bought a $25 game from microsoft, totally by accident. Hope this helps.

    • Save what’s still there you care about on a flash drive, visit closest large bookstore, buy a Linux mag with the most recent Mint distro on DVD. Install and have fun. You will love it.

      • aegerprimo

        Linux ….. I guess I should get educated on this OS. I thought Linux was gone in the late 1990’s. Silly me.

        • But retrieve your files first – installing an new OS will generally overwrite them.
          I favour Unbuntu for new computers and Lubuntu for old machines, but Mint has a good following, too..

          There is also a lot of free software, which can be downloaded using a built-on facility called a repository, much of which is at least as good as the MS product – for example Libre Office.

          • Missionary Kid

            One BIG advantage is that it’s good, and FREE.

            • Which means you don’t have to be paranoid about breaking your OS and having to buy a new one. You just download another copy for nothing.

              The days when you had to manually format your hard drive are long gone too – Ubuntu is much easier to install than Windows.

              You will have a bit of a learning curve, but Linux today is as least as intuitive as any MS product – it’s just slightly different.

    • If it’s a software problem (and you might be blaming Win 10 for a hardware failure that happened at the same you upgraded – that’s happened to me)…

      Get someone to download a live distribution of Linux that does not need a fancy PC (e.g. Lubuntu) for you on a DVD. Insert the disk, and boot up. It will give you the option to run an alternative operating system in ‘demo mode’ in the RAM memory. It makes no changes to the hard rive.

      Once it’s working, you can find your files on the hard drive and copy them to an external drive hard drive or a flash drive.

      • aegerprimo

        Okay, I have a friend who could help me with that. The linux part. I havel an external HD.

        • Oh… see my other comment, then.

          Just make sure you stick with the ‘live’ version of Linux, and don’t actually install Linux (which is difficult to do accidentally).

          The only wrinkle is that the external drive had to be formatted to FAT, or you use a Linux distribution that can work with NTFS (the preferred Windows format).

          Linux distributions will reliably recognise an external HDD. Then you just navigate to the place you stored the files you want to save, and copy them.

      • kemist

        Installing new OS on older computer – especially with an old hard drive – is generally not a good idea. The stress it causes with increased volume of writes can end up causing a hardware failure that would probably not have happened then if the new OS had not been installed.

        There are lawsuits from people whose older machines were effectively “bricked” by the aggressive, malware-like windows 10 installer. I blocked the update and its nagware on my home machine – don’t want it, ever, as I have software and libs which I am not sure will still work properly with it, and I profoundly dislike OSes that do shit without my express consent – but it takes non-trivial knowledge of how windows works to do that.

        One of the people I kind of “sysadmin” for and does not have this kind of knowledge got the update against her will (started installing itself after she closed the nagware window that did not have a “Nope” button) and became locked out of her personal account. I had to hack into it for her. After that it created an account with microsoft by itself, without warning or asking for consent.

        So, sorry Microsoft, but my answer to Windows 10 is Nope. And if you disregard your own programming standards to force an install on me, my machine will become a Linux single boot.

        • People give me ‘old’ PCs. I install a low-demand Linux OS (Lubuntu in good) and either pass them on, or keep them for backup. I have 4 spare laptops at the moment, so I chanced it with a Win 7 —> Win 10 upgrade.

          The machine I upgraded was just packed with too many files packed away in too many odd places to be worth the effort of moving, or I would go back to Linux. I’ve been there before, and the only problem is interoperating with the majority of Windows users.

          Everything you say about the nasty tactics they used to force people to upgrade is true. Microsoft’s problem is that so many people were perfectly happy with XP and Win 8 was a disaster. They didn’t want to be blamed for the disaster that would happen when they ended support, so they tried to force everyone to be on the same page, even if it meant buying a new computer.

          In my experience, however, Win 10, is actually one of their best. It’s more stable, certainly. If you go to the ‘privacy’ section, you can switch off almost all of the annoying stuff. It broke one minor program, a bit, and my Win 7 installation had badly needed a reinstall.

          I think they spoiled the reputation of one of their best products by trying to force people to adopt it.

          • kemist

            I profoundly dislike the way they deal with their customers – like they’re all slightly retarded children who don’t know what’s best for them. And windows 10 seems to have amplified that behavior by a considerable margin.

            It is not the first time I have had problems with them. Once an update rebooted my computer during the night without my consent. Problem is, my machine was recompiling a static version of a library I needed for the following day. Thanks, Microsoft. I sure needed that update in the middle of the night.

            After that I learned to block the auto update “feature” at the registry level. Sure, it did not happen again. But how many other ways do I have to tell you not to do shit to my machine without my consent ? Or not to download shit I don’t want without my consent ? And would it kill you to show me your release notes before you install shit, so I can evaluate how much havoc it will wreak ? Or to leave the decision to reboot my machine to me, its owner ? OSX and Linux don’t seem to find that particularly difficult.

            • As I understand it, Apple went to a UNIX based OS some time ago, so OSX and Linux are cousins. Android (which might outnumber Windows already) is Linux with a touch GUI.

              The problem is that, when companies like Apple and Google use open source software, they create walled gardens and limit your control. My pet hate with android is that you can’t uninstall Facebook without rooting your ‘phone/tablet and possibly breaking it.

              That’s why I’m a purist and prefer the likes of Ubuntu.

            • kemist

              Yep, OSX is basically a proprietary UNIX flavor, but with subtle differences, like memory management. The nice thing though, is that all those nice command line UNIX tools are there if you need them and that with a little work (you’ll need to install from source, i.e., with a compiler) you can make pretty much any open source Linux program or lib work on it. So it’s not so walled – I would call it “fenced”. You can step over the fence if you know what you are doing.

              Android… Is an experiment gone bad from people who think all their security problems disappear because they don’t run as root. Combine that with the fact that a lot of app programmers barely know what they’re doing and you have a recipe for disaster.

              If you are a Linux customization freak who likes to vet every single component of your OS, your distro of choice is ArchLinux. However, I would not recommend that unless you are very familiar with how an OS works and have several hours to configure your machine – for Linux geeks, those hours count as entertainment, but it might not be so fun for normal people.

            • I have observed that are two kinds of serious computer users

              1) Those (like me) who learn about them because they enable you to do interesting things, and you don’t want to be reliant on others to make them work.
              2) People who like playing with them for its own sake.

              This is why I’ve stuck with Ubuntu and Lubuntu since Ubuntu used Gnome.

            • kemist

              One nice feature of Linux : GUI is totally decoupled from OS and shell.

              What that means is that you can install any GUI you like on your distro. They can even coexist and you may chose whichever you want on login. If one of your “users” does not like Gnome or Unity because they differ too much from Windows, you can easily install another interface for them with the package manager. Former Windows users will often prefer something like KDE.

              I’m a minimalist when it comes to GUI. I found a relatively obscure one called Xfce (comes preinstalled with a subdistro called Xubuntu).

            • I tried Xubuntu, because it promised to run on old hardware, but found it didn’t, particularly. The upstart Lubuntu did, and that’s what I now use for that purpose. I forget what GUI is uses, but it is minimalist.

    • beauty for ashes

      Don’t blame yourself. 🙂 My only advice. It always feel like karma, when your car or computer break down, but it is not. You nice lady. You save kittehs. You help do surgery. You put up with that husband! (just kidding!) <3 <3 <3

      • aegerprimo

        I love you Beauty.

        • beauty for ashes

          Right back atcha babe <3 <3 <3

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I use live CDs to rescue files from dead operating systems. You need to be able to burn a CD image though. You might be able to boot from a USB drive though. Once you boot from the CD or USB you can copy files to another USB drive.
      http://www.pendrivelinux.com/

    • LongtimeLurker

      As Once-Born says below, if you go down the new OS path, “retrieve your files first – installing a new OS will generally overwrite them.”

      Just driving home the point to not rush into it without doing that.

    • 9001

      Use pendrivelinux as Eivol Ekdal has suggested. I would suggest a puppy linux iso image (Fatdog64 or Precise Puppy) as they are small and quick (they run from your RAM memory). You can then recover your data to an external drive. Good luck.and thank you for the monthly bad press collections!

  • flyonthewall

    Apparently Marty is being remotely audited by this hilarious mofo named “Ingo Swann”. Delicious

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?42685-Ingo-Swann-Telepathically-Audits-Marty-Rathbun

    • beauty for ashes

      I thought it tasted like battery acid and lime sweet tarts, but hey, maybe you like that kind of thing!

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Quick call Richard Hoagland!

    • kemist

      Oh lord.

      That one is a seriously frosted fruit loop.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • I vaguely remember reading somewhere that Hubbard wanted a ‘hands-free’ e-meter and set some people on to the task of building it for him.

      Of course, he didn’t know enough about the way in which the previous model worked to understand that this was next to impossible so nothing came of it.

      Even if this latest effort works (which I doubt it does, in the real world) do we really want judgements about our emotional states made by devices which, not being sentient, can never actually understand them?

      File under incredibly naive techno-fix for a non-existent problem.

      • I have seen a underwater meter reading without touching 🙂

        • Where is Aquaman when you need him?

      • kemist

        There are image processing / face recognition techniques to analyze expression / emotions.

        Still experimental, but expect that this, like face and voice recognition, will be commercially available one day.

        • Facebook uses that already. You can see it when you upload pictures

        • Simple programs, automatically running simplistic heuristics with no understanding of what it is that they are measuring – because they have no understanding of anything at all.

          It’s an systematised way to manipulate people en masse, online, that’s all.

          • kemist

            Ah, the Chinese Room Argument : https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chinese_room

            • Pretty much – except it’s no longer an abstract philosophical discussion. We are starting to hand over decisions to soft AI right now, even though we know their limitations – mostly out of greed.

      • LongtimeLurker

        First came the incredibly naive techno-fix for a non-existent problem.

        Then came the robot apocalypse.

        • As I said to my toaster – I , for one, welcome our new rational and mechanical overlords.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Don’t know about this particular technology, but it’s readily apparent that $cientology is stuck in the 50s for reasons we all know and can’t take advantage of new research in neuroscience, psychology, psychiatry, biofeedback, etc. to evolve (and salvage) it’s own thought system. Seems that’s for the best
      though as it is too riddled with it’s own evil purposes and out ethics.

  • Liberated

    Mark Zuckerberg and his wife are donating billions of dollars (yes billions) over many years to end disease
    on the planet.
    Now that’s what I call “a star high goal”

    Wait a minute, didn’t I read in the cult literature that a world without disease, war and insanity was the
    goal of CO$?
    I’m confused, the cult has billions, what in the world are they doing with all that money ?
    I suppose erecting buildings that sit empty is more “on purpose.”
    Go figure.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    The “fastest growing religion”?
    They can’t even find a damned OT3 or OT4 clam in New York! HA!
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52c404852e646bd20b4bcc3ab8d2e4c70fd5831b2590a0bf66a8784625c2fb09.png

    • beauty for ashes

      Oooh oooh this sounds like fun!!!! Can someone forge me some certs?

  • Vaquera

    It’s Friday night and I miss Tim Riggins. That’s all.
    http://media.vogue.com/r/w_480//2015/06/18/18-tim-riggins.gif

  • Thank you Marty for letting Martin’s comment through. I don’t know Martin. He is asking good questions, imo.

    Martin Padfield https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2016/09/19/how-gullible-can-one-get/#comment-344297

    September 23, 2016 at 6:30 pm

    It saddens me to write this but I don’t
    think this, or much in your recent blog postings are helping anyone
    “move on up a little higher” – certainly judging by the comments here –
    those I’ve been able to get through anyway. What on earth is the point
    in publicly unloading a bucketful on Chris Shelton? Or Karen for that
    matter? Or Louis Theroux? Or John Sweeney? Or Ron Miscavige? Or even
    Tony Ortega. Aren’t they all just expressing themselves in wonderfully
    human ways? Obscure, diverse, eccentric, wrong maybe – who cares? Why
    not take your own advice and just “let it go”? Or pick up the phone or
    go for a few beers with them?

    Have any of the aforementioned harmed anyone with their writings or
    films? I doubt it. Who’s next in your firing line? Mike Rinder? Tory?
    Marc Headley? ANYONE who dares suggest that maybe cult abuses should be
    brought to light and stopped? And what’s with the labelling? “ASC” is
    just another label isn’t it? Is anyone who disagrees with you now a
    troll? Am I one for expressing an alternate view? I don’t get it. I
    personally never got involved in the ESMB thing – I read Mike’s blog
    occasionally but basically I’ve moved on. I am however a tad mystified
    by what seems like a continuation of the “vortex of hate” I think you
    called it. Live and let live eh?

    • Kestrel

      Thank you for posting this, DodoTheLaser.

    • Has this person made previous comments? I ask because WordPress can be set to automatically post comments by anyone who had has a previous comment manually approved – this one may have slipped through the net.

      • Frodis73

        Yes, I recognize the name.

      • DoveAlexa

        Now, that would be funny.

    • grundoon

      Martin Padfield is a UK ex-Scientologist who spent 9 months in the Int Base RPF. He was profiled in the Evening Standard of October 19, 2012, which became the subject of Marty’s blog that day.

      Martin added:

      BTW, yesterday I strolled into St Hill, as you do, and was apprehended by a SO guard, son of an OSA staff.

      I explained that as a founding member of the IAS, with the card to prove it, I did indeed have every right to be there.

      He said I was committing suppressive acts. Have I? what could they be? His response was – get this – “what you are doing now” i.e. Being there and communicating!

      When I had stopped laughing I asked him if beating one’s staff could be a suppressive act. Was he aware that Miscavige had been doing that? Corrupting the tech?

      I don’t know if he noticed it but I had a mike on – the whole thing was recorded by the TV crew! OSA – Channel 4 won’t roll over like the BBC did. They will air what the hell they want. Sucks to be OSA.

      • grundoon

        Martin Padfield first told his story publicly in the early days of Marty’s blog.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      I read that earlier today in Marty World and guess what? Instead of coming back with a succinct response, Marty buried it by starting a new topic thread that’s just a two-sentence riddle that invites his readers to divine his thoughts.

      I’d rather see him answer up in a direct way to Martin’s straightforward queries. But the chances of that happening are about as good as Xenu finally getting paroled 😉

    • Martin is alright. (Not that this comment should be construed as my approving of dragging drama from other boards here – we can read those, if we want to 😉 ).

    • Ann B Watson

      Thank you Dodo for your astute post.I am now labeled an ASCer and I never even visited Mr.Rathbuns site or knew of him except his book.I never knew about ESMB.I lived in my “cave” from 81-2014 when I crashed into Mike’s Blog and he became a wonderful friend to me.Then I found the Bunker and Tony and Karen has my heart.All I did was start to break out of my shell and tell my SO story on Mike’s Blog first.Never mentioned Mr.Rathbun in it.What happened to me so long ago is a truth the cult still will not hear because if they looked hard enough they would see what was done to me has now morphed into full blown Fair Gaming and the old harassment game coupled with Disconnection which I feel is one of the most evil policies.Yes everyone has a right to their opinions and their space.But when someone starts fire bombing everything in sight that displeases them and does not care who gets burnt,then I have no more respect for them.Thank you Tony for your Bunker.❤️❤️

  • Len Zinberg

    Is this the 1.5 millionth post, or did I count wrong?

    • Eivol Ekdal

      1,499,999

    • Tony Ortega

      Not quite. But it looks like it’s going to come tonight.

    • MarcabExpat

      That would be pretty awesome, Len, if yours was the one 🙂

  • Liberated

    This is OT….Terry Jones of Python fame has been diagnosed with dementia.
    I’m bummed, I love that guy.

    • Rasha

      He’s brilliant. That is sad news. Love him.

  • Vaquera
  • Kim O’Brien

    Hollywood Blvd offer is still on the table .

  • Liberated

    I hope there’s a gift if I’m the 1.5 mil. comment.
    I want an E-Z Bake oven. The super expensive shiny one.
    Fingers crossed!

  • Sweet xylophoning Xenu on a zebra, let this be the one point five millionth comment. It’s been a long day.

    • Frodis73

      Lol, with our luck it will be a troll that hits the mark!

      • Missionary Kid

        Or a sock.

        • Or a sock troll.

          • kemist

            Or a troll’s sock’s sock.

          • Missionary Kid

            *Laughing* Good one.

      • LongtimeLurker

        I’d be okay with that.

    • JaxNGold

      LOL!!

    • beauty for ashes

      I miss Jim Henson, and this is the 2nd thing time this week I’ve thought that..

  • Rasha

    So, how close are we to 1.5 mill? I can’t wait for my bowling trophy!

  • Vaquera
    • Rasha

      Wow. Sucked the air out by the second sentence, didn’t they?

    • JaxNGold

      Don’t even know where to start with this. The least these OTs and Clears could do is a damned proofread. I lost count of the errors.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Do NOT get me started. It drives me nuts that they won’t even run spell-check over their drivel.

  • noseinabk
    • Fly Lady

      This is 255 for me!!

      • LongtimeLurker

        You go!

      • Juicer77

        🙂

    • Baby
      • beauty for ashes

        holy crap that is freaking adorable!

        • Baby

          I have no idea where I found that picture..I collect them along the way.. I would have loved to have had that for my kids.. cute..xoxo

      • Juicer77

        I WANT

        • Baby

          Me too.. We’ll share Juice.. Take turns riding bike and one in the little side car..

    • Juicer77

      It’s not the quantity, it’s the quality! Judging by content, you and I are about even. 😉

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    1,500,000th comment right here.

    I have certainty therefore it is true.

    • Missionary Kid

      *Great big chuckle and a smile*

    • Well, what’s true for you . . .

  • Vaquera
    • Observer

      Garish nightmares for everyone!

      • Vaquera

        You’ve already had your share of nightmares for the week, birthday girl. Let someone else have a turn.

        • Sherbet

          And source is misspelled like that?

          • Vaquera

            Damn. I didn’t even notice. Hilarious.

            • Rasha

              “The Souse of Nightmares”

            • beauty for ashes

              oooh ” the spouse of nightmares!”

    • Liberated

      Just sign the billion yr. contract….that’s the source of nightmares.

    • kemist

      It’s apparently the source of typos too.

  • What number comment is this?

  • villagedianne

    Do Sea Org members have to salute those dogs too?

    • Missionary Kid

      Probably not. These are probably sea org dogs, and not Dinky Mousebrain’s.

  • Vaquera
    • Rasha

      You can see them getting more and more to the point. Pretty soon they flyers will just say, “Send In $1,000.”

    • LongtimeLurker

      I can’t believe there are no spelling mistakes.

  • Vaquera

    Apologies for dumping so many items, but it’s something to do while waiting for the almighty 1,500,000,000th comment.

    Joy Villa has scored a surreality show. f5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dda9462c9629a06210a92625b2dece5d5ff0705e7cf748b945fda2cefa25c2b2.jpg

    • Rasha

      LOL 47 likes…

    • Vaquera

      She’s excited to be “apart” of her first tv show? So, like, she’s away from it?

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Three feet back, right?

      • LongtimeLurker

        Ripper start, Joy!

    • Tonight on Lifetime: I Wannabe a Wannabe! Follow the lives of ten plucky youngsters with big dreams and absolutely no talent. This trainwreck of a show will have you cringing from the first minute in which we find contestant Joy Villa shopping for just the right shade of lime green electrical tape and vintage hand mixers. These parts will comprise a new outfit she designed to wear while watching the Daytime Emmy™ Awards in a Best Buy in West Covina with her dapper partner Taaarpstraap Faarklebaarker.

      • Baby

        hahahha Ugh.. that is absolutely one show I’ll be more than happy to pass on.. ugh

      • Ella Raitch

        Multiple up votes though disqus only registers one. Taaarstraaaap Faaaaarklebaaaarker ondeed

      • LongtimeLurker

        ogod.

        I’d forgotten about her pet hipster husband. This will be unbearable.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I’m guessing this is either one of the seven signs of the apocalypse or SMP.

      Well, it looks like at least one person is excited…
      (refresh)

      https://www.instagram.com/p/BKWwrabA6S6/?taken-by=thorstenovergaard

    • PerpetualOutflow

      What a gagger.

    • beauty for ashes

      That room in my heart, that I save for all my bitchiness, just started havin a party!

    • LongtimeLurker

      NOOOOOOOOOOoooooooooooooooooooooo.

      https://media.giphy.com/media/TQg9Yt3rpzjP2/giphy.gif

    • Juicer77

      If it’s on the $camatology channel, she’s in for a long wait…
      PS I am excited to be “apart” of her show, as well. As “apart” as I can get.

  • Rasha

    Gotta run before the legendary 1.5 Mill… Just want to tell you good luck. We’re all counting on you…

  • Liberated

    At least, I hope Tony gives us all free donuts for trying so hard.

    • Baby

      PIE

      • Aslan’s Own

        😀

        • Baby

          PIEEEEEEEEEEEEE Lion in DA House..smooches

          • Aslan’s Own

            Ha ha! I had just popped in for a few minutes and your post appeared right before my eyes, which cracked me up!

            • Baby

              whenever I write Pie I think of my buddy the Lion..

            • Aslan’s Own

              Awww… thanks! 🙂

      • beauty for ashes

        Pie~S PIES!!! 🙂 🙂 🙂

  • Baby

    I am confused.. How do we know what number we are ( at) … ( I know you are not supposed to end your sentence with a preposition.. sorry. )

    • pluvo

      We have no possibility to know. Only the Proprietor knows. He will announce it when we are there.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Is that like only your hairdresser knows for sure?

      • Baby

        Spill it Ortega..

    • Liberated

      I have a great idea, let’s all go on strike. That’ll teach’em.

      • Baby
        • Liberated

          Can’t believe you posted that picture, my sister always said I looked like Sally
          Field……..You like me, you really really like me!

          • Baby

            That is funny Lib because when I was in HS I looked just like her..hahah.. People would say.. ” You look just like the Flying Nun..”

            • Liberated

              OMG..is that just a coinkidink ?

            • Baby

              I was chubbier than her though.. NOOOOO coinkidink.. Maybe it was an early Cult look.

            • Liberated

              Oh please, I had the fat round face.
              Where’s all that fat now that I could use some?

              What, is that what people call cheekbones?

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Just finished Fair Game and wow, what a fantastic book. Depressing and shocking in the horrifying details it chronicles about the ruthless, unethical and seemingly unending evil deeds of $cientologists the world over. Lots of fascinating new tidbits even for the avid clam watcher. Thanks for this masterpiece Steve.

  • Meccaanon

    I imagine somebody was watching some protests in North Dakota and said “hey! We should have attack dogs too!”

  • Observer
  • Liberated

    I have a feeling, Tony’s going to tease us, and won’t announce the real winner til Thursday at 2:00 pm.

  • Tony Ortega

    The internal website counter is still short, but I think it just lags a bit. Because we’re well over the number that it said would be required a few hours ago.

    So I think we can safely conclude that this website has reached 1.5 million comments.

    That’s an average of 917 comments per post, by the way. Which I think is pretty amazing.

    Thank you!

    • Vaquera

      Whoop!

    • Ella Raitch

      Congrats Tony on making a community that hits Miscavige where it hurts, provides breaking news and is at the same time a great place to sit back and chew the fat (or pass the dutchie, depending on you inclination).

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      1,500,001

      • Willie Jones

        1,500,002

        • Ella Raitch

          Get a room, already! xxx

    • What’sup

      Onya, mate. Keep hittin’ those dingers!

    • MarcabExpat

      Behold! The Golden Age of the Internet Fringe!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous
    • And here is the list of all the bunkerpeople https://disqus.com/home/forum/theundergrondbunker/commenters/

      • Missionary Kid

        Tony Ortega is on there twice. There are some OSA sock puppets, too.

        • he has 2 – 1 one on his phone and one on his PC, something like that!

          • Missionary Kid
            • that’s you?

            • Missionary Kid

              No. Find the reference to 26 on the list of memes.

            • why 26?

            • Qbird

              bc the truth of the situation came to light on the 26th of Dec. All of it. The lying liar that lied was found out then. Captain Howdy decided to never mention her name again & from that day forward she, the catfish, became know as ‘the 26’.

            • So 42 is the answer to everything, 47 is the way scientolobotomy is going and 26 is the ultimative fraud. 25 is still Christmas after all!

            • LongtimeLurker

              Re Qbird’s answer below…It was before my time, iirc.

              But I bothered people so often someone gave me the link.

              If you want, I’ll try and find it. Remind me if I don’t bring it up again.

            • Missionary Kid

              Hint: Tony exposed it the 26th of December.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah. I saved a link to the start of the thread.

              But I bet I wasn’t smart enough to use 26 anywhere in the name.

              : (

            • ah!

        • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

          He’s mastered bilocation. That would explain how he gets so many scoops.

          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bilocation

        • What’sup

          Jimmy is on 3 times

          • Juicer77

            Ha haaaaaa

            • What’sup

              It’s funny cause it’s true!

      • Baby

        Howdy.. sigh.. I miss you!

        • beauty for ashes

          Just got a psychic message from Howdy: and he says you need to ride your scooter at sunset more often. And wear nicer underwear for god’s sake! 😉

          • Baby

            Hahhaah That’s exactly what he would say beauty… xoxoxo

          • Juicer77

            Spot on!! LOL

        • Ella Raitch

          And SPF

          • Baby

            OMG Yes..thanks El

      • Draco

        At a rough count – about 400. Wow! That’s more than 70!

      • Vaquera

        Oooooo, Vaquera is sandwiched between Tony and Howdy.
        Works for me!

    • Missionary Kid

      That’s amazing, especially since, early on, we were averaging maybe 500 comments, tops, and there have been several days where there have been more than one post per day.

      • i think the highest count i have seen was around 4000 in one post

        • Missionary Kid

          Yup. When there’s celebs involved, or breaking news, the count goes way up. The amount of people who read the Bunker, though, has, I believe, steadily increased.

    • beauty for ashes

      Congratulations!!!!! And Thank You!!!

    • thank you and thanks to my fellow comentards.

      This is better than a.r.s. ever got (and a.r.s. got trashed, sadly).

    • Baby
    • Newiga

      That’s amazing! Congratulations! Thank you, Bunkeroos! xxoo

    • OOkpik

      And all we get is a lousy T-shirt.
      No, wait…..never mind.

      • Liberated

        What, you got a T-shirt? I didn’t.

      • Ann B Watson

        Hi OOkpik,Good to see you again.I have lots of Tees but even a lousy one from the Bunker is golden to me.Actually I do not want any prize.Being able to post here is the biggest gift of all.❤️❤️

    • Susan black

      We’re a talky bunch. Thanks for your great reporting day in day out.

      • sizzle8

        I guess we’ll have to keep Scn around a bit more……oh, wait!

        • it wouldn’t be the same without them!

    • Eivol Ekdal

      You are welcome.

  • PappeKak

    Are there liability issues if a private group uses trained attack dogs?

    • Missionary Kid

      IANAL, but there always are liability issues. The problem is that proving that the attack was unprovoked or an over-the-top response in order to collect is something that Co$ will make extremely difficult.

      • ReallyMGM

        The severity of injuries could cause criminal as well as civil charges.
        I think (and this is just an opinion) the individual handler as well as the group owner would be responsible for the attack. The company that trained the dog and then sold it to the company that used the dog could also be sued. Also, there would be a legal mess whether it was (as MK says) whether it was provoked or unprovoked. So….legal mess as far as civil charges.

        I was away yesterday (birthday!!!) so wasn’t around for any of the discussion. Mals and German-bred German Sheherds dogs are the breeds of choice for protection because of their tenacity. Mals are sleeker, lighter and more tenacious, but many don’t have the weight to take a suspect down. A shepherd isn’t as speedy, but has the weight to take a larger suspect down fast. A well trained protection dog has an “off switch” as well as an “on switch.” It is much easier to train the “on switch.” The (good) companies that train these dogs also spend many hours training the handlers who will be working with the dogs they train (so they won’t be sued later). Military dogs are a good example of excellently trained dogs because of the hours of training and practice in the field. But are too many examples of bad training companies who train and sell these dogs quickly to clients…it comes down to money.

        Belgian Malinois are a nice breed that were, like German Sheherds, originally bred as a multi use breed (including herding farm stock). One of the nicest herding dogs I ever saw was a Belgian Malinois who was also trained for herding, obedience, and personal protection. But he was not overly friendly to strangers-a one person/family dog. As a person who has shown dogs for decades I wouldn’t recommend them as a first dog for anyone. (If you want more info I will look up the article on the breed that was written by an officer in the national breed club when the breed was featured in a Disney movie. They were frightened it would spark a “run” on the breed like Dalmatians after “101 Dalmatians.”)

        As always this is my opinion only. Probably could explain further in a discussion in something other than this type of forum.

  • MaxSpaceman

    The dog tactic comes down to one problem for which they need solution.

    Their real estate properties are by and large huge, and — empty.

    I think they’re training dogs to patrol and safeguard their properties. Extra benefit, the dogs can be pulled out against trespassers or protestors.

    • Missionary Kid

      Or, as someone else pointed out, someone who tries to blow.

    • The dogs I’ve seen at Saint Hill have been really nice. Their handlers somewhat deluded.

      • beauty for ashes

        Like they run after you and jump on you to give you kisses? Well I bet miscavige would haaate that! He probably thinks that’s a deterrent, god bless his deluded teeny tiny black heart.
        PS~ In the us in the south if you really want to say something awful in that faux polite way, you say something like, “Well….. she did put on a dress *Bless her heart*”

        • Liberated

          Take it easy, I’m sorta from the the U S south…..darlin’.

          • beauty for ashes

            Pete is Irish, just wanted to explain.
            I love that expression
            . I also love Y’all. didn’t mean to offend 🙁

            • Liberated

              Believe me dear you did not offend…..I’ll do anything for a cheap joke.😀

            • beauty for ashes

              Okay, I thought I was gonna have to make you a pitcher of sweet tea, and all I have is stevia, which is not at all acceptable. Whew!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              What no downers?

            • beauty for ashes

              Oh We’re a regular pharmacy over here! But usually they put a but load of sugar not downers in sweet tea 🙂

            • Liberated

              No, I’m not that pathetic…..I’d rather have a pint at one of your pubs.
              This has nothing to do w/anything, but something I’ve wanted to say to a
              British bunkerite….I like the shape of your guys “license plates” so much better than ours.
              They’re long, narrow and horizontal, and look so much cooler than ours.

              I watch a lot of British Telly, I guess that’s why.

            • beauty for ashes

              Good pick up line in a british pub!

            • Tim Brown

              Pete doesnt sound Irish.
              I think he is from England somewhere (I am bad with british accents)
              But he lives in Ireland.
              Lovely country.
              I could listen to Irish people talk all day.

            • beauty for ashes

              LOL~ never look to me for absolutely reliable info, I have a memory like a sieve! I apologize!
              I luv british accents and could listen to them all day, its only in the past five years I’ve learned a bit about the different ones. I think it always depends on the accent, and whether you can understand them.

        • Ann B Watson

          Hi beauty for ashes, Great post,thank you.Having lived in Baton Rouge La 20 years,Yelp!and a native of Boston, Mass I can say y’all with the best of them.I love that phrase as it covers everything family dogs cats etc.I also know Southern Ladies drip honey on the outside but steel on the inside.Slightly different from New Englanders Lol.I send you love.❤️

      • Baby

        I have never seen a dog yet that I haven’t fallen in love with.. Handlers? PUKE

      • Baby

        I didn’t think the women were that bad Pete..

        • Tim Brown

          Boom, tish
          Pete’s here all week.
          Remember to tip your waitress!

      • Missionary Kid

        Maybe, it’s the handlers who are the vicious ones.

    • Mooser42001

      They might want to consult a lawyer before they start training dogs to attack, or using them on people.

  • OOkpik

    Congratulations Tony and all you wonderful Bunkeroos.
    The total number of comments on The Underground Bunker has topped 1.5 Million!
    Weeeee!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/aad4b44da3139eed5624b444c8f92c54db86f1b4e8eb767b95d9cb5c361409e4.jpg

    • Ha ha…Cool

    • chukicita

      Straight up and vertical!

  • Missionary Kid

    I felt a disturbance in the force…Naw, just a 3.4 earthquake centered south of Yucca Valley in Joshua Tree National Park.

    Shake it up, baby.

    • coonellie

      Reminds me of the time I got in my car and thought kids were jumping on the bumper. I got out and didn’t see anyone. When I got to work I heard about the Whittier quake. Better than the time the ceiling cracked in half due to the Sylmar quake.

  • Fink Jonas

    Doomsday preppers; acording to Scientology the world is not improving but going down hill, but I ask at what point we were in optimum conditions that now we are going downhill? when was the tipping point they don’t say 1950? As soon as Scientology showed up into the world all of a sudden everything is bad except Scientology. Yeah right!

    • LongtimeLurker

      I love the way there was always “only a few years left!” to save the planet.

      • One of the first things that sales people are taught is that they have to create a compelling reason to buy now otherwise people will wander off and forget about the product (which they probably didn’t really need in any case).

        Scientology ‘doctrine’ owes more to hard sales and the self-help business than is generally recognised.

        • LongtimeLurker

          That’s a great insight.

          • I’ve spent a lot of time reading scans of old science fiction pulp magazines, in which such ‘self help’ and ‘self improvement’ ads featured heavily.

            When you have seen Dianetics in context like that, it jumps right out at you how Hubbard used to the same techniques as people who were selling hope by mail order in so many other forms.

            Some of those techniques (the postal feedback form in the book, handing out leaflets in the street and customer testimonials) are still used by Scientology despite the fact that they are desperately dated in the Internet age.

            Like so many things about Scientology, they seem original because we have lost the historical context in which they were commonplace.

  • 0tessa

    Do these dogs have the proper rank to bark?

  • FredEX2

    Good Morning Bunker! Who’s awake? Coffee is brewing. 5 more minutes til the Saturday report. Today is gonna be a good day. 🍩☕️

    • FredEX2

      Morning’ Oopik! I see you 😊

      • OOkpik

        Hiya, sweet stuff.
        Coffee? Yumm! Don’t mind if I do, thanks. 🙂

        • FredEX2

          ~😘

    • Ann B Watson

      I have been up since 5:00am central time.Kona coffee to hand.My 17 year old kitty Jade is the best alarm clock ever.You have a great day too.❤️❤️

      • FredEX2

        You too Angel. ❤️

        • Ann B Watson

          💋💋

  • LongtimeLurker

    Nooo posed hup!

    • meerameezer (wogsy)

      I see what you did there.

      • LongtimeLurker

        THANK GOD!

        I think you’re the only one.

  • richelieu jr

    Countdown to brand new potted bush blocking spot marked “POV”, in 5… 4… 3… 2….

  • Mockingbird

    Someone asked me to go through a Marty Rathbun blog post and dissect it fallacy by fallacy. I remembered doing it with one a while ago. Here’s Marty’s Excalibur.

    http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/04/martys-excalibur.html

    • Mooser42001

      Poor Marty. Can’t help but think (who wouldn’t?) it all has something to do with the statute of limitations.
      Or things for which there is none.

      • Mockingbird

        You mean murder ?

  • Ann B Watson

    I sent a post to Dodo and Disquis ate it.Weird because it was about someone we all know who is very fond of firebombing everyone in sight right now,including me.I wanted to thank Dodo for the astute post.❤️❤️

  • Jgg2012

    Dogs chase squirrels all the time, but I’ve never seen a dog catch one.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      My Greyhounds have and it isn’t very pretty. Worse was at night when they caught a huge male skunk. Took 10 mins. for them to kill it. All three got sprayed so bad but didn’t stop. They’ll jump up and knock the squirell out of the tree. One can catch flies..

  • Sine qua non

    What’s next? Fire hoses? 😕

    What’s the special protective trainer suit made of? Special fabric woven from a gossamer ribbon of electronically trapped body thetans? 😁