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Whale watching update: Your 2016 mid-year guide to who’s propping up Scientology

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Our thanks to Artoo45, who procured the newest Impact magazine and let us know what was in it. We love Impact, the official publication of the International Association of Scientologists, because it reveals who has been lavished with praise for increasing their donations and propping up Scientology in its latter days.

Now, normally we’re most interested in the issue of Impact that comes out early in the year, because it shows us who was celebrated at the IAS Patrons Ball held in October, usually at Saint Hill Manor in East Grinstead, England. This is the year’s really big party for Scientology’s whales (our word for the biggest donors) and even Tom Cruise is known to show up wearing his Freedom Medal of Valor as a special prize for the wealthy folks who turn over truly prodigious sums.

But there’s also an IAS Patron’s Ball held in honor of Maiden Voyage, the set of summer events that commemorate the 1988 launching of Scientology’s private cruise ship, the Freewinds. So this most recent issue of Impact shows us the richies who made the scene on the Freewinds somewhere in the Caribbean.

We don’t think this event has quite the prestige of the October party — none of these folks rates high enough to pose with church leader David Miscavige, for example — but we’re always happy to learn about the people getting trophies for their giving.

Please check out our January story for a full rundown on how we know the amounts that are being given, and for an overview of the biggest of the big donors. OK, here we go.

 
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Patrons: Vincenzo Aloe, Beatrice Guignard, Elizabeth Doria, Margaret Mercado

In order to be named Patrons, these folks have reached a cumulative total of $50,000 each in giving to the IAS. It may have taken them years to reach this level, or it might have been a single donation. And keep in mind, this doesn’t count the amount of money they may have paid for expensive Scientology courses, or the many expenses that come with them (like spending a week on the church’s cruise ship, for example).

 
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Patrons with Honors: Marlies Thuermer, Maurizio Polverini, Wendy Patten, Ghledis Carli, Stuart Guy, Connie Saunders

According to Scientology’s own publications, you have to donate a cumulative total of $100,000 to the IAS to be named a Patron with Honors.

 
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Patrons Meritorious: Elizabeth Gonzalez & Frank Suarez, Shun Min Wang, Sheridan Cyrus, Yu Mei Lu, Louisa Chaubert, Leslie Brock, Paul Seymour, Karen & Eric Berg

These donors have given a total of $250,000 each to the IAS.

 
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Silver Meritorious: Simone Hafenmayer

Scientology’s caption: “Simone Hafenmayer hails from Germany, where she leads an especially energetic Munich OT Committee. In which capacity, she powers her city’s bid for a future Ideal Org and forwards the drive for an Ideal Germany.”

Simone has ponied up $500,000 to the IAS in order to be named Silver Meritorious. And again, that’s not counting what she’s spent for courses, costs, or other donations to Scientology causes, including donations to any future Ideal Org.

 
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Silver Meritorious with Honors: Dennis Romeiser & Simone Lorenzen

Scientology’s caption: “Dennis Romeiser and Simone Lorenzen live in Hamburg, where they serve on multiple fronts: as IAS Disseminators for a Germany united; as Elite Millennium Disseminators for Scientology Media Productions and as leading figures on the OT Committee.”

Scientology’s publications don’t specifically spell out what it takes to be given “Honors” above Silver Meritorious, but we’ll assume that a good guess would be a total of $750,000 in donations.

 
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Gold Meritorious: Monika & Gerhard Lidl

Scientology’s caption: “Gerhard and Monika Lidl are a pair of strategists from Munich’s OT Committee. They thrive on forwarding Scientology expansion and work the game board from numerous angles: as pioneering Volunteer Ministers across Bavaria, Model of Admin Know How awardees from WISE and diehard proponents of Munich’s future Ideal Org.”

Now we’re getting into major whale territory. Monika & Gerhard have reached a real milestone, giving at least $1 million in cumulative donations to reach this level.

 
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Gold Meritorious: Salila Travers – Gold Meritorious

Scientology’s caption: “From Austin, Texas, Salila Travers is a prominent member of the OT Committee and a legendary energy driver for their future Ideal Org. Leading by example, she recently became Austin’s latest New Civilization Builder and champions the IAS as a Gold Meritorious.”

Salila is also a $1 million giver, and she’s from Texas! Yeehaw!

 
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Diamond Meritorious: Steve Wu & Lucia Kuo

Scientology’s caption: “The evening’s highest award was presented to Steve Wu and Lucia Kuo from Taipei. For close to a decade he has helmed Taipei’s OT Committee, now bent on building Taiwan’s next Ideal Org. Together, they stand as New Civilization Builders with Honors, Legions of Honor for the forthcoming LRH Hall, and Mission Holders at Taiwan’s Capital Mission. With the accomplishment of Diamond Meritorious, they became the first Scientologists to achieve this level in all of Asia and ANZO.”

This couple were apparently the big whales of the party, earning this trophy for reaching $5 million in donations to the IAS, apart from all the rest they’ve spent as Scientologists. And they’re from Taiwan, which we learned a lot more about recently thanks to Benjamin Carlson.

OK, have at it, campers. Let us know what you can about these fat cats and their Scientology involvement. We always love to see what our commenters manage to dig up.

 
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Bryan Seymour talks to Louis Theroux

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[Louis Theroux yells at an ashtray in one of the movie’s best scenes]

Our man Down Under, journalist Bryan Seymour, sent us this link to his interview with Louis Theroux about My Scientology Movie, which opens in Australia on September 7 and in the UK about a month later. Louis tells us there is still not a release date for the US, but our fingers are crossed.

We really enjoyed Theroux’s film when we saw it last year in London, and it’s going to be fun to see how big of an impact it has once it reaches theaters. We’re also looking forward to seeing what kind of interviews Marty Rathbun gives as part of promotion for the film. We had heard that he isn’t very happy with the film, but we’d love to be wrong about that — we think he did really well in it, even when he lost his temper a couple of times.

 
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Has Scientology got its hooks into Officer Norman?

North Little Rock patrolman Tommy Norman gained national fame for his community policing activities when he was featured last year on CNN with Brooke Baldwin and Killer Mike. His compassionate approach to the people he serves has garnered him nearly a million likes on Facebook and 1.2 million followers on Instagram.

But it was a couple of short videos that showed up on that account recently that has some wondering if Officer Norman has been targeted by Scientology and its front groups. Take a look at this image from a video Officer Norman posted yesterday…

 
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Now, before you Officer Norman fans freak out, it appears that the patrolman is handing out something that had been donated from a fan in Los Angeles, and he didn’t really seem to have any idea what it was. The booklet is The Way to Happiness, the anodyne pamphlet put out under L. Ron Hubbard’s name in the early 1980s that contains basic moral precepts ripped off from other traditions.

We’ll try to find out if the officer has any idea Scientology is trying to get in on his good thing, but we have a feeling it’s not going to work.

 
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Bonus items from our tipsters

Actual caption: “Citizens Commission on Human Rights dinner honoring recipients of the Purple Heart. Robbie was awarded two for injuries sustained in Vietnam.”

 
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Here’s the flier for the event…

 
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Handing out ‘The Way to Happiness’ in the English coastal towns of Bournemouth and Poole…

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on August 8, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback and Kindle editions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    “In which capacity, she powers her city’s bid for a future Ideal Org and forwards the drive for an Ideal Germany.”

    “Clear”, the original Scientology Shangri-La, appears to have fallen completely by the wayside. Everything is Ideal now, baby.

    • PickAnotherID

      “Ideal” brings in more $$$ from the victims than “Clear” ever did.

    • BosonStark

      Interesting point. At one time “clear the planet” was a standard phrase used among Scientologists, inside Scientology, and they found it thrilling. Hubbard realized that to outsiders it sounded chilling and fascist, but now clear is out even inside, replaced by the more innocuous sounding “ideal.”

      “Happy” never took off as a word to apply for big money fundraising, because there wasn’t that much to be happy about with disconnection, or not having millions to give for a bigger bowling trophy, and Scientology making a “happy planet” sounded too trite.

      Scientologists aspire to be ideal, and they think they have the highest ideals, in trying to make themselves and the entire planet ideal. As ideal as Scientology, of course!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Thank you, Artoo45! You rock harder than a rocky thing πŸ™‚

    NOLA, we need to put our heads together. Is (Patrons with Honors) Marlies Thuermer wearing one silver and one gold shoe? I’m all for self-expression, but I consign this attempt to the bonfire of sartorial hell from whence it came.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Holy shizballs, I scrolled right past that. Coffee is still kicking in around here. It’s one of two things, and I’m not sure which one so I can’t call it a fashion crime yet, it’s either two different shoes or it’s sparkly shoes and she got caught with a colored light as they shot the photo (more likely) but…hey who knows?? These clowns are controlling MEST Andrea!! LOL They don’t need no stinkin’ matching shoes. πŸ˜€

      First day of high school today for the little man. If I drown in my own tears y’all send a boat for me. πŸ™‚

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I suspect you’re right and it’s more to do with stage lighting. Thank fork for that! Aww, your baby’s growing up fast. I know that mix of pride and internal hysteria. Hugs for him and for you πŸ™‚

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Thanks love. I’ve learned through advice though. Cry after you drop them off. πŸ‘πŸ˜Š

          • Missionary Kid

            Geez. I just walked to my high school. (10th grade) Jr. High and Sr. High were together. We just had different lunch periods. Probably because my mom was 55, and a working mom, (unusual in those days -1959) and it was only half a mile away, it was no big deal. I was the baby, and the last of my older sisters had graduated 3 years before.

            Of course, I don’t remember my mom ever suffering from empty nest syndrome. When I graduated from high school and started college, my parents left the U.S. and went to Taiwan to resume their work as missionaries. My parents moved away from me. They did give me a forwarding address. πŸ˜€

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Well, that was nice of them. LOL πŸ˜€

              We don’t live close enough that he could walk to school, the regulations for that here are you have to live a certain distance from the school to be able to walk (safety reasons I assume) otherwise you catch the school bus or a ride.

          • Kim O’Brien

            my daughter starts high school on the 22nd . I am taking the day off …same as i do every year on the first day of school ….cuz i stay home and cry from pride and self pity LOL …

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Thankfully, he was really happy and not nervous at all this morning. That made it easier on me….there might have been a tear behind my sunglasses. I’ll never tell. πŸ˜€

      • SarahDB

        Mine are in their twenties and I’m still in disbelief. How did they get to be adults?!?

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          No idea girl. I’m sitting here trippin’ over high school. How the f**k did that happen?? I was just teaching him how to write his letters! πŸ™‚

          • chukicita

            My youngest is starting his senior year of high school. We have the date circled on the calendar when we are no longer legally responsible for him.

            EDIT: Facial hair does not make you a man.

            • Robert Eckert

              NOW they tell me!

            • Princess Squishy

              they sure look like men though don’t they? I keep asking who gave my stepson permission to turn into a man. He is finally 18, but he has looked like a man for over a year. This is him and his dad a year ago right after he turned 17.

        • Princess Squishy

          My stepson just graduated high school and is about to start college, and I’m not sure who gave him permission to become an adult. (refresh)

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Congrats and best of luck to him!

      • Peter

        Nola….”shizballs”??? ROFLMAO!!!

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          πŸ˜€

    • Kid Kat

      It sure looks like it. I knew a lady with mental woes who went to church with her panty hose on over her shoes. Sad.

    • Rasha

      LOL! (shades of Lord Melchett)

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Heehee, yes!

        • ♫ A shame about the sheep… ♪

  • Draco

    Typo? (out (our?) word for the biggest donors)

    • Tony Ortega

      Fixed.

  • YellowSubmarine

    I donated $1 million and COB didn’t even bother to show up for the photo-op….
    https://media.makeameme.org/created/THATS-A-BUMMER-4up7c7.jpg

  • gtsix

    Still no US release date? Would love to hear the story on that.

    • Juicer77

      Since we’re having AWFUL internet service right now, I’m tempted to make a joke about British Telecomm having terrible BT problems with beaming it to the US. But I shall refrain and go back to watching my video buffer…. Sigh…

  • Missionary Kid

    Remember, you can be awarded the Golden Silver Platinum Super Duper Meritorious Fictitious Internet medal by subscribing to this blog. All you have to do to join is click on the subscription button on the upper left at the beginning of the blog. You will not get regged by Tony, or receive anything tangible, or have your picture appear anywhere. It’s a win-win, and it keeps this blog going.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Some big money coming out of Deutschland.

    Gold Meritorious: Monika & Gerhard Lidl – anything to do with the business partner (Ludwig Lidl) of the Schwarz family who started the Lidl chain of supermarkets in Germany, I wonder?

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lidl

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      *sigh* You’d think our German friends had been through enough. Is there anywhere Dave won’t fleece people? Can we send him to Siberia in a crate of WTH booklets and then just forget he’s there?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Like the hamster-sized cretin he is he can use the WTH booklets to not only dine off but to fashion a tiny little bed from.

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      Gold Meritorious, because every time Miscavige was told there was a Lidl donation he made the IAS reg go ask them for more.

    • PJK

      Well, after some googling I found the website of the company that Gerhard Lidl owns together with his business partner Volker Rainer and this question is even answered by him on his About page:

      http://www.funktionierende-kapitalanlagen.de/inhaber-gerhard-lidl–volker-rainer.html

      For those of you that don’t speak German I’ll briefly summarize: He is distantly related to the person who sold his name rights to Josef Schwarz (the founder of Lidl), but neither he nor his family have anything to do with Lidl.

      He is making his money with property investments as far as I can tell from the company website.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Cool. Thanks very much, PJK πŸ™‚

        • PJK

          No problem, I was wondering about this myself >B’)

  • PickAnotherID
  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    GET AWAY FROM THAT VETERAN YOU VULTURES!!!

    *bangs head against desk*

    • BraveBloggers

      And a contingent of the USMC color guard. FFS. I shouldn’t be surprised at the depths they will go to in the name of exploitation for their cause, but Robbie is only a means to end in this instance. Just horrid.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Yeah, I saw that. Ugh. Is there nothing sacred they won’t use for fundraising. SMH

      • Franklin Adams

        Its the Tampa Marines. They’re a Marine Corps Reserve AMTRAC unit. We used to do stuff with them when I was in Marine JROTC in High School.

  • moonnfire

    Ok I have this pet peeve about what is said about purple hearts. It is not an award. You may be a recipient of one but it is not like you won a prize. I wish they would stop using award and pick a different word to express respect for the wounded that put their lives on the line.

    • Franklin Adams

      That’s the DoD’s verb though. You’re awarded it. Says it on the citation. I personally don’t like the language myself, getting the ACM, Bronze Star or DSM is an award, a Purple Heart is simply recognition that you got hurt LOD in a combat zone. Doesn’t diminish it any, but the act of receiving it is being awarded it by the Government.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Straight out of a soldiers mouth: “They aren’t prizes or awards, they’re a sign that you did your damn job. Perhaps you went above and beyond but almost everyone did.”*

        *Note: This was from an old cranky Vietnam veteran (my Dad) who had a “thing” about calling them awards too. πŸ™‚

        • Franklin Adams

          Well I’m a cranky young OEF vet, and I agree with your Dad. Calling it an award probably stems from when the PH was a valor award (the first one actually), like how the other medals and such are now.

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Thank you for your service. I wish you’d have been able to meet him before he left this world.

            • Franklin Adams

              Me too. God bless all the old vets. WWII, Korea, Vietnam, Cold War, etc.

    • PickAnotherID

      Technically, the Purple Heart isn’t just for getting wounded. When it was reintroduced in 1932 it was awarded “For Military Merit”, in fact that’s what it says on the back. Being wounded could be taken as a sign of that merit. It wasn’t until much later that being wounded, in and of itself, became a basis for it’s award. A brief history of the medal posted by the VA can be found here: http://www.va.gov/opa/publications/celebrate/purple-heart.pdf

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Thank you for your courage and service, Robbie. Two Purple Hearts is incredible. Now run as fast as you can from the Scientology scammers who are attempting to bask in your reflected glory!

    • Wog

      i Betty – you and John are to receive Purple Hearts for having the courage to “Do Something About It”.

      AWESOME JOB!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    John McGhee has uploaded his video from our impromptu protest last Monday πŸ™‚

    https://youtu.be/qbmpydG1QJ0

    • ReallyMGM

      Thanks for sharing. Hopefully this pretty young girl’s parents are getting to see her face. Maybe she will call them.

    • YellowSubmarine

      Awesome how they lock up every time. Queues start to form because the public can’t flow in anymore…

      • Juicer77

        Awful, inn’t it?

      • dchoiceisalwaysrs

        Or alternately clues start to form that there isn’t any freedom behind those closed and locked doors?

        • YellowSubmarine

          How creepy would it be if you’re actually a public walk-in and the doors get locked while you’re inside…

          • Other people (presumably Scientologists) tried to get in and were furiously motioned away. Then went to another door around the back.

            They looked particularly confused, as if the org had just been surrounded by a moat filled with custard – something that just shouldn’t be happening.

            • Baby

              They may have been confused O.B. but they were absolutely petrified.. Vile, disgusting, evil SPs..OMG hide the children.

            • I got the impression of people who had practised what to do in case of protest as you would a fire drill and, when it happened, leaned on the experience of their precious TRs and went somewhere else inside their own heads while we were there.

              Afterwards it was probably something of a sensation for them (it must have brightened up another boring day of trying to persuade people to come inside and failing) but at the time they just dissociated and went to their Scientology happy place.

              There was more going on there than just locking the doors and hiding inside the org. They were also hiding inside their own heads.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Hubbard’s placebo scare tactics “SPs influence other people negatively”, works!

        Scientology labels a person “SP” and then Scientologists change their attitudes instantly per the “SP” rules.

        Amazing example of suggestive thinking and placebo tech.

      • Back during the early Anon days it was known as ‘skuttle-tech’, went along with ‘umbrella-tech’ (trying to hide protesters signs with umbellas, well worth finding some of those older vids, frikken hilarious), and of course who can forget the still used ‘curtain-tech’! It was/is the best funny for a long while, especially after months of picketing you might consider that a place would get some sort of ‘standard-tech-shooper-dooper-lron-blessed-bt/sp-proof’ curtains ffs, but no, everything from tinfoil to cardboard, prodigious amounts of duct-tape, sheets & tablecloths, and beyond.
        These are people being taught to confront and communicate? So mindless I have remained entertained for many years…. gah!
        So sad it has made me cry a few times for them too…

    • Wog

      Awesome job John and iBetty!! i Betty – you are adorable!! VWD to you all for doing something about it and THANK YOU!!

      In the future, I would highly recommend that protestor’s bring enlarged images of Lisa McPherson’s autopsy photos so as to IMPINGE.

      The “Call Me” sign may not make any sense to wog’s walking buy but Lisa’s photo (her family wants everyone to see) – WILL make perfect sense. The “call me” sign may impinge Sea Org Slaves – so keep that one and use it! VWD!

      Check out Anon Sparrow’s work on the net – he used those signs and they impinged!

      It will be like spraying RAID on those cockroaches to keep them inside their nasty cockroach evil den.

    • BraveBloggers

      Isn’t locking the door a potential fire evacuation hazard? In the states that wouldn’t fly during operational hours.

      Also, if I had happened in for the “free exhibition” and saw that…well, there goes your Div 6.

      • YellowSubmarine

        I believe they’ve closed doors at LA locations too (at least for the AGP)

        • Tory Christman

          I would say they do not lock in most new public.
          However they did lock us in at Flag, once, or tried to. We got out…
          But it was weird. Mostly they get you to
          Lock yourself “in”, agreeing with some
          BS “tech” they run.

          Exp: “You are not allowed to
          Leave Flag as you are OT 7 & in
          A lower condition” …true story.
          Why was I in this supposed lower condition?
          Because the CO of L.A. Day promised Ann Snider
          & I she would pay us $509/wk if we would audit there.
          After getting $50/wk…no more, when I went for my 6-mo check
          I told them I needed to route off staff, as I could not
          Afford to live on $50/wk!
          Instead of putting Jeanine Bogvad (sp?) In
          Lowers for lying to me, they put me in lowers and
          I was not allowed to leave Flag argh!! Thank God &
          My friends I am out of there!! πŸ™‚

      • chukicita

        Yes. Stuff like that gives fire marshalls bad dreams.

      • David Arum

        It would have to be in front of a police officer ,fire marshal ,or code inspector.

        • BraveBloggers

          In the U.K.? That was what I was trying to nail down. As in the states repeated reports and/or videos such as this one in addition to happening in front of a F.M., F.I., C.I, S.I., B.I., S.O., or P.O., would likely cause an investigation of some sort. That video alone would be enough to open an investigation in my dept.

          But, I acknowledge that certain areas may not respond to a video due to existing work load, though they should.

        • Tory Christman

          People often say what they would have done.
          So would I had I not been brainwashed during
          A time when there was zero Internet, & knew what you have the
          Luxury of knowing. πŸ™‚

          • Baby

            Tory..I think he meant you wouldn’t be arrested unless it would be in front of the 3 he listed.

          • David Arum

            The conversation was only about code violation .In no place in the world can you lock the main door of a public building while it is open and occupied by the public.

      • Jane Doe 2

        In the picture showing a Viet Nam Vet getting recognition for his Purple Heart award(s), the person in the picture looks like it may be Robbie Robinson, ex-SO now out of SO but still drinking KA (that I know of). They simply call him “Robbie” in the photo. Can any of you bunkerites tell me if this is indeed, Robbie Robinson?

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Dan Koon posted earlier that he does indeed believe Robbie the veteran is Robbie the ex-SO member.

    • Juicer77

      *Sea Argher takes card, John replaces it…* XD

      • I’m betting that card was sent to Saint Hill where it was duly examined by the OSA and Scientology’s legal advisers. Checking out that little bit of cardboard will likely cost them a significant sum of money.

    • Juicer77

      Naughty Betty and her sign. XD

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        You were supposed to be there with me! Next time πŸ˜€

        • Juicer77

          Y’all did me proud. πŸ™‚

        • $cnmonkeyrob$

          It was quite amusing seeing John marching into the mOrgue, prompting the cockroach scurry followed by lock-the-door tech πŸ™‚
          ETA Thanks for your awesome organisational skills getting many Bunkerites in the same place at the same time… an occupation akin to herding cats!

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            We have a HowdyconEU bat phone installed in the secret location*. It’s the only way to organise something like that πŸ˜›

            *No, I’ve no idea either. It’s that secret!

            • If wasn’t for you, I’d probably still be wandering about Central London looking for the way home…

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              I count myself very lucky we got to spend the afternoon with you.

            • The feeling is mutual. I’ve got to stay longer next time, and not be half-asleep.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              You hid it well! I’m glad I got to show you St Katherine’s Docks; one of my favourite places in London on a sunny day. Shame about the rain… πŸ˜›

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              Oh! I think I know the one you mean at [redacted], that one?;)

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Hur hur πŸ˜›

          • Baby

            Hey Monk man.. xoxoxo baby f5

    • Elegant Mess

      ILY! Just brilliant.

    • The still picture you see before you play the video is randomly selected by You Tube – but telling.

      Look at that desperate attempt to retain a false smile while locking the door to avoid communication (the universal solvent).

      I keep saying that Scientologists do not so much believe, as fight a constant battle to suspend disbelief, and here is an example – a person having to lock doors and retire out of sight so as not to hear criticism.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Yes, it must be utterly exhausting O_B πŸ™

    • daisy

      You have the most beautiful smile. The accents are so lyrical. Good for all of you .

    • OOkpik

      Look at those beautiful young people inside.

      What a waste!

      • Quite.

        However, they are inside, behind the ‘reception’ desk, precisely because of their rare youth and fair appearance. This is not representative of the membership at large, which is older and ageing.

    • Observer

      Daunted, deflated, and irresolute

    • Ella Raitch

      Fabulous. Love how she had so much trouble locking the doors!

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      This was great! Amazing how they live in such fear. Was that young Charlie Wakley I saw inside the door there?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I checked with John – yes, that was Charlie πŸ™‚

        • Sid (Phil Jones)

          I think his mom Nathalie was at Flag recently doing OT5 or 6&7. Not sure what Nick is doing.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            John asked where you knew the family from (if you don’t mind telling us).

            • Sid (Phil Jones)

              We stayed at the White House when doing services at St Hill. Once for more than 6 months.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Thanks love, I’ll pass that on to John. Incredible to think we lived within a couple of hours of each other for that 6 month period. And now we’re buddies πŸ™‚

            • Sid (Phil Jones)

              Next time we’re over we’ll definitely stop by to say hi. No more Saint Hill though so we should have more time to visit.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Yes!

    • allioops

      Thank you so much!!!! Brave, brilliant and gentle people!!!

      I really dig this!

    • Fink Jonas

      poor guy he got preached for smiling on camera, see how the social manners are looked at as something unacceptable, and that’s how they brake your will power right there on camera, until you become an acceptable asshole Scientology wise.

    • Baby

      You continue to be beautiful.. and a class act Betty boop.. I commented yesterday when.. shoot when someone posted it.. John always trips me out..

      I just love you guys.. OOOOOh and I love to watch so much enturbulation .. Now that is a win! love baby

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Oh, Baby! Thank you. C’mere, lemme squish you with kisses.

    • aegerprimo

      Finally got to watch the video! You are adorable i-Betty.

  • SarahDB

    I saw something bizarre yesterday while watching tv, an ad for Volunteer Ministers. I didn’t realize what it was until the end so I wasn’t paying close attention, but my impression was lots of yellow, lots of smiling faces in those lovely yellow t- shirts and some kind of inspirational music, but no talking. At the end something about the VM flashed on the screen. I’m in the Boston area, anyone else seen this??

  • 0tessa

    The only thing I like is Lucia Kuo’s dress. Magnificent.

    • ReallyMGM

      I thought the same thing. Best dress of the bunch. She should have left off the necklace though.

      • madge filpot

        right.. agree on the necklace.

        • ReallyMGM

          LOL that we are critiquing the clothing of the award winners like this is a red carpet event!

          • villagedianne

            Too bad Joan Rivers isn’t here.

      • 0tessa

        The necklace is the Scientology symbole. Her husband wears his’ too on his jacket.

        • ReallyMGM

          Yuck!!!!

    • madge filpot

      Agreed.. she is the only one with any fashion/style sense. The others don’t seem to have a clue. But creating an Ideal Org/City/Country/Planet/Universe takes priority over everything else. And unless you intuitively know what suits and is in good taste…”style” has to be “learned” along the way. imho.

    • downtherabbithole

      Most look like that bridesmaid dress that they should have been thrown out years & years ago.

    • villagedianne

      Lucia Kuo’s dress is pretty and has a kind of outer space look in keeping with the occasion. The dress Silver Meritorious Simone Lorenzen is wearing is not terrible, and Patron Meritorious Karen Berg looks fine. The rest are bad, but if I had to pick, the navy blue dress with the lace, on the Patron Meritorious Louise Brock is the worst.

  • chukicita

    *facepalm* f5

    EDIT: I have heard this expressed as “All gave some, some gave all.”

    The way it’s expressed on the flyer sounds like something that would happen at a Scientology reg-fest event.

    • PickAnotherID

      That actually makes sense if you think about it, “Some gave all”” = Killed in service, “All gave some” = Wounded in service.

      What bugs the hell out of me is the line right below that:

      You will also hear about the impact of psychotropic drugs on our military and what real soluctions exist to help veterans.

      Which tells me this whole “hosting” thing was a setup to push $cientology’s anti-psych crap.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Yes, it was hosted by CCHR. Arseholes.

      • chukicita

        Bingo.

      • chukicita

        Yes, it makes sense. The way they have it on the flyer is backwards from the way I’ve heard it, though. And you’re right – the truly enraging part is the Purification Rundown setup beneath.

    • Observer

      Scientologists: all gave none

    • Robert Eckert

      …and you better give lots.

    • Princess Squishy

      Yeah I saw that too, it is absolutely supposed to be the other way around. Doofuses.

  • madame duran

    Dr. Sheridan Cyrus is a dentist from East Toronto and leader of the Malvern Scientology mission.

    .http://torontoobserver.ca/2011/11/14/church-of-scientology-opens-in-malvern/

    • Not sure if that mission exists any more, but missions are like that.

        • madame duran

          The lady speaking in the video says there’s “nothing” there about the Scientology mission…but Dr. Cyrus dental office is listed on that board (0:12 mark)! While there may be no formal mission building to speak of, I would imagine that mission staff/members are participating in social outreach stuff like the Truth about Drugs/Drug Free World or cozying up to police to make them a “safepoint”.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Bournemouth is affectionately known here as God’s waiting room for the decrepitude of its population.

    • endoftheQ

      Is that still true? I know it was when I was little, back when there was a Tufty Club in the Winter Gardens, but I’ve read that Bournemouth is now considered really trendy.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Funnily enough I just read an article that attempts to dispel the “god’s waiting room” myth. I remember a couple of friends attending nursing college in Bournemouth 25 years ago who said it was a graveyard but it seems to have benefited from regeneration.

        • endoftheQ

          Yup, I bet it’s all those young’uns from the Uni desecrating the old folk’s peace-and-quiet. I guess you only have to look next door at Poole where some of the most expensive properties in the UK are on Sandbanks. I was also gobsmacked to see beachhuts at Mudeford over Christchurch way are selling at Β£250,000 a pop and there’s a huge waiting list. http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/14098458.This_year_s_most_expensive_beach_hut_on_sale_for___250_000___but_there_s_a_waiting_list/ Unbelievable!!

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            250 grand! I think I’ll stick with my beach brolly πŸ˜€

            • endoftheQ

              You’re so flash, leaving me in a deckchair with my knotted kerchief. πŸ˜‰

            • endoftheQ

              I’m disappointed in you. πŸ™

    • Andrew Robertson

      A visiting British journalist once wrote unkindly that New Zealand was like Chelmsford in the 1930’s.

      I almost bought a house in Chelmsford in the 90’s as I felt quite at home, so he may have been right.

      Andrew

  • What people miss is that “The Way to Happiness” is a counterpoint to “Introduction to Scientology Ethics” and was written during the “Snow White” crisis. At that point in time Scientology needed an infusion of conventional thinking about morals and ethics, or at the very least, needed the ability to pretend that it thinks conventionally.

  • Edward Whalley

    The Purple Heart Banquet reminds me of the gift Purple Heart given to Donald Trump. If only they understood who was the unseen Patron of this gala….with his stolen glory….

    • Missionary Kid

      “I’ve always wanted one of these.” That cheapened the gift beyond what he could ever understand, and his lack of understanding really pissed people off further after his attack on the gold star parents.

      If he’d said something else, like, “It’s really an honor that you gave this to me.” It would have honored the soldier’s sacrifice. A purple heart is an award that no soldier wants to get, unless they’re planning on running for office. It is a symbol of sacrifice, and the Donald treated it like something that could be collected.

      I don’t have one, fortunately, but I appreciate what it symbolizes.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        That classless asshat should have either 1) Graciously not accepted a SOLDIERS Purple Heart or 2) Not stood up there like a braying jackass bragging about how getting it that way was “easier” AGGGHHHHH!!!

        I’m not going to get started. Needless to say, that went over like a truckload of horse shit over here.

        • Mymy88

          I know right? Then he plunks this absolutely priceless medallion back into his side pocket as if it was a trinket from a favorite gift shop someone had gifted him. I can’t take this BS much longer. That buffoon has got to get lost.

      • Robert Eckert

        He cannot talk about sacrifice (as he showed in the Stephanopoulos interview about the Khans) because he does not know what the word mean. The concept is literally alien to him.
        http://americablog.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/trump-wrath-of-khan4.jpg

    • LHS

      Did the Purple Heart banquet mention L. Ron’s Hubbard’s alleged multiple Purple Hearts, I wonder?

      https://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Cowen/warhero/medals.htm

  • Narapoid

    I have asked myself how can these people keep believing this stuff? These whales and the mere ordinarys buy it all wholesale. For these OT people who have done the upper level stuff that does not enable the advertised telekinesis and the other things, how can they go on with the lie?

    1) To stop believing could leave them in violent psychic throes of despair. Almost everything in life would have to be reconsidered. It is like owning a bad stock market offering: it doesn’t really lose money until you sell if for a loss, and they have never looked to sell.

    2) All of their friends and family are in. The Disconnection policy and the disconnected are rarely thought of, until that day the scales fall from their eyes. If they are smart enough, they can stay under the radar and work for the day to blow. (Grab some documents on the way out). f5

  • Rocket J. Squirrel

    If I had known there were this many wealthy people looking to give their money away I would have started my own religion…oh wait I almost forgot…that’s a BAD thing.

    • Missionary Kid

      I worship me, and I forgive myself all my sins, but I still feel guilty. Does that count as my own religion?

      • Draco

        Send me $5,000 and I will give you the answer.

        • Missionary Kid

          What are you, a $cientologist? πŸ˜›

          • FredEX2

            No, Draco’s a regge! Hire him and let the fundraising begin! Now all you need is a few Whales!

            • Missionary Kid

              The only regging I’d be in favor of is from whales. Unfortunately, the televangelists feed on the people who can least afford it. That’s what Trump University did.

          • Draco

            Oops. Sorry. Some habits are hard to break!
            ;P

      • Peter

        I’m kneeling in reverence for you, Kid! Give some thought to a golden staff, though. πŸ™‚

        • Missionary Kid

          Actually, I’m a Pastafarian. Not of the branch that hires strippers. We do drink beer, though. I don’t need no stinkin’ golden staff, just a table to enjoy my pasta and a couch to relax on. :D.

          • Oh… thanks mate – you just reminded me that I was going to make a Bolognaise… seriously…

      • FredEX2

        You’re already a missionary, Kid…and almost have the way to set your proposed ‘religion’ up right. Worship & forgiveness of self…hmmm πŸ€”But you’re gonna have to take out the part where you feel ‘guilty’ and replace it with a GoFundMe page and create a few slogans, repackage some books and create a name and following…and get a pompadour hairstyle…and you’ll pretty much have it down!

        • Missionary Kid

          I’m thinning on top, so a pompadour would require a Trump style hairdo, if not transplants. I guess I could write a book with Missionary Kid wisdom, and insist that everyone buy it at retail. HA!

      • villagedianne

        I think you’ve got the religion thing covered.

    • BronxLaurie10

      I need to start a “Help Me Pay My Mortgage” religion.

  • FredEX2

    While looking at the expensive fancy dresses, classy decorum, trophies and the opulence of the Whales at the Ball…don’t forget to re-view one of their most immoral vulgar and dangerous Sharks and his buddies in their cheap natural habitat down there in Cabo…lest we are fooled by the bright lights…to momentarily forget the darkest most evil side of Scientology and their far reaching tentacles that lurk beneath the surface. Those vicious Sharks who have destroyed and continue to destroy so many innocent lives…including some who were previous Patrons and Whales of Scientology themselves…

    http://tonyortega.org/2016/08/02/for-scientologys-most-infamous-dirty-trickster-retirement-has-a-happy-ending/
    F5

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    The Open Minds Foundation (that Jon Atack is involved with) has a new article called “Santa Clause and Scientology”

    When I was a young adult, rendered vulnerable by my anxieties, I came across a group of lovely proper grown-ups who told me about this man-god called Ron.

    http://openmindsfoundation.org/real-life-stories/santa-clause-and-scientology

    • I’m glad you posted this Andrea. The entire site has interesting articals helpfull for anyone recovering from undue influence.

  • BosonStark

    Ach Du meine GΓΌte, shocking that there are German whales! What happened to the Venezuelans?

  • Sunny

    When I saw Leslie Brock in that photo above, without looking at the name, I thought it was Lisa Berrenger. She looks so much like her. Lisa was on services at CC when Tom Berrenger was, but Lisa was much more into Scn than her husband. They drifted off lines, like so many others. I thought she was back in the fold in that picture, but no, thankfully!

    • Sunny

      Totally off topic (well, it’s about Scn… so maybe it does not count as off topic?), but Lisa Berrenger reminded me of something.
      It was common for the staff of CC to not know the Celebs that would come through. We did not watch TV, and hardly ever went out to the movies either.
      But when Celebs came through the org, there would sometimes be an attempt to access whatever shows they were in for the crew to watch after weekly staff meetings. Those who were upstat were allowed to stay up and watch a movie in the CC dining room (and no, you could not sleep in….).
      Because of Tommy Davis’ connections, (his mom, Ann Archer), we were able to get movies that were not released on DVD yet, lots of times. Tommy would get into his black leather BMW 5 series car and drive to his moms house, grab newest DVDs and bring them back. They would say “for your consideration” on them, and were not for public show. But we felt pretty special being able to get these movies and watch them in the org.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’ll bet that those Oscar consideration videos aren’t available now that Tommy is a civilian.

      • villagedianne

        Those may be movies sent to SAG members for consideration for the SAG awards, or for Oscar consideration, like Missionary Kid says.

        In the case of the SAG screeners, they are under no circumstances to to be loaned out.

        “Our screener copies are distributed to you for your personal viewing. Please be especially careful in your handling of this screener – do not circulate, transfer, distribute, loan, sell reproduce or give the screener to anyone else.”
        and
        “Once you have finished reviewing the screener for awards consideration during this awards season ending on [ . . .] you are to securely destroy the disc, so your personal copy does not fall into the wrong hands.”

  • Graham

    I’ve been meaning to post something about last week’s Euro HowdyCon but I’m only just emerging from a bout of man-flu.

    First, thanks to Andrea for organising this! x

    Mrs G is not a bunkerite but always looks forward to these meetings, enjoying meeting such a variety of interesting, engaging people. And at last we got to meet Once Born! He makes such incisive, comprehensive posts here and his web-site is a major repository for all those things Scientology would rather we forgot about [https://scicrit.wordpress.com]. IRL a very modest bloke. Sharing a corner of the pub with both him and Mark was a real privilege.

    On our way in Mrs G and I stopped off for half an hour at a comfortable location within sight of $camatology’s Tottenham Court Road shop-front. Realistically this is the only place in the UK where they stand the slightest chance of doing any body routing. When we arrived there was someone standing outside with a tone 40 grin handing out flyers. After ten minutes there was a shift change, but the new woman gave up after a short while [thus scuppering my plan to pick up a leaflet as we left]. In the half hour nobody went in or out apart from staff. A steady stream of passing foot traffic. Despite the double doors being wide open and A-frame adverts on the pavement only one person even glanced in. Everyone else walked past as if it were an empty shop. What is the point? Sporadically shoving flyers about something obviously dodgy into the hands of busy, distracted passing punters is about as effective as flicking bits of plaster at a wall in the hope some of it might stick. Nowhere in the Manual of Effective Marketing does it say β€œIf what you are doing doesn’t work do more of it.”

    Scientology’s showcase London building is an impressive office block in Queen Victoria Street. Very little foot traffic and huge volumes of vehicles making it quite dangerous to try crossing the road. Andrea, John McGee and a couple of others decided to pay them a visit [see video posted earlier by Andrea], mainly to photo themselves by the entrance holding their CALL ME signs. As they started taking photos someone walked out of the door and down the street WITH HER JUMPER PULLED OVER HER FACE to avoid being caught on camera. Why?! What was going on in her tiny paranoid mind?

    Whilst this was going on, in an alleyway down the side of the building a staff member plus one other were having a crafty fag and looking down the road at the kerfuffle outside the entrance. Looking and skulking and doing nothing. What kind of committed, full-time church member would see something like that and not go to the aid of their colleagues and the defence of their religion? Where’s the confront and shatter? The ability to talk to anyone on any subject? The belief that ‘communication is the universal solvent’?

    Somewhat belatedly I did think I’d like to ask him these questions, but by then he was scurrying down the alley to the back entrance. I called after him a few times but he just scurried all the faster. A fit guy in his thirties running away from some old codger in his seventies. Or to put it more accurately, running away from the risk of being exposed to truths he dare not hear.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I didn’t see the woman with her jumper pulled over her face! You had a great vantage point from where you were standing. Thank you for providing my absolute highlight (you know what) – you were amazing!

      Oh, and your gift to Paulette was inspired! Paul was saying he couldn’t wait to read it.

      • Graham

        Last year Paul confessed to me and Mrs G that he had a great liking for a certain British sit-com so we got him a copy of the star’s biography.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          When I saw what you had given them I had one of those moments of gift envy when I realised how perfect it was πŸ˜€

      • chukicita

        Andrea, I missed where you posted the vid. Was that today?

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Yes, I posted it shortly after noon our time, though, so it will be far down at the bottom πŸ™‚

      • Graham

        “Thank you for providing my absolute highlight” You may have liked it, I don’t think “Douglas” did πŸ˜‰

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          “Douglas” who will forever have quotation marks around his name πŸ˜› My hearing must be going!

    • chukicita

      Thanks for the report (hope you’re feeling better!), and for the link to Once Born’s site, on which I’m finding new (to me) and wonderful things!

      • Graham

        Once Born told me his web-site was originally intended to be just a book list. Things seem to have got a bit out of hand!

        • Yes… when ‘complete’ it was only going to require minimal maintenance when new books came out. However, there when I started to look for new books, there turned out to be so much other ‘stuff’ out there, and a lot of it was disappearing as links were broken and material taken down.

          Also, you learn by writing about things like Scientology because, to do that, you have to think things through.

      • Thank you.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Very entertaining and insightful, thanks!

      I love that last – sounds like a book or movie title, “Truths You Dare Not Hear” Works on a number of different levels, don’t you think?

    • I’ve put off turning up to these gatherings for too long, and I’m glad I came. It was good to talk to everyone too – and put faces to icons. Next time I will plan better, be more than half-awake and stay longer. I’m still assimilating it all.

      I’ve found in Plymouth that Scientologists don’t give leaflets to scruffy characters like me. You have to look ‘uptone’ (i.e. as if you have money) to warrant the offer of one.

      I only get them by picking discarded examples out of the bins, or sending my mate for one, when we are in the City Centre together. Ironically, he is a psychiatric nurse and gets one every time because he’s so well turned out. If only they knew.

      The locking of the doors was done with astonishing efficiency. This had to have been the result of a well-practised ‘drill’. Protests can’t happen very often, but when they do, the inmates are prepared. This speaks to an astonishing level of paranoia and control.

      My only reservation is that these things might confirm Sociologists in the notion that the outside world is hostile, as they are told. On the other hand, it was a harmless, peaceful, protest that is difficult to dramatise. That, and the fact that the only response that all-powerful Scientology offers is to lock the doors (leaving your returning comrades, whom you have locked out, to run the gauntlet) and hide away might raise doubts.

      • Graham

        “My only reservation is that these things might confirm Sociologists in the notion that the outside world is hostile” [I’m assuming you mean Scientologist there old chap πŸ˜‰ Not still suffering from Express Coach lag?]

        Yes, the potential downsides of protesting are:

        It confirms Scientologists in their belief that the outside world really is a dangerous place full of degraded being nutters.

        It confirms their view that they must be a power in the world if people are bothering to protest them.

        A while back Tony profiled a veteran protester (In Canada I think). After some years his inside contact sent him a message advising him to stop protesting as his protests were now the only thing rallying the few remaining local Scienos and getting them into the Org.

        “Next time I will plan better…. and stay longer”. That’s good to hear. Look forward to that. And hopefully this autumn Mrs G and I will make that much promised trip to the West Country and you can show us the wonders of Scientology Plymouth!
        .

        • Oops… I did mean “Scientologists”. I am currently reading a book by a Sociologist and was trying to avoid that mistake… and if it’s on your mind, you’re more likely to make it.

          BTW, I travelled by MegaBus.. highly recommended if you can book at least a month in advance. My fare was a quarter of that charged by other coach companies and one eighth of the train fare (mind you, it was 5 hours each way).

          Ah.. “The Wonders of Scientology Plymouth” – that would make an excellent book. I have a volume like that. It’s entitled “Everything Men know about Women”. It has 200 pages, all of them blank. You would probably get more mileage out of a title like “The Banal and Deceptive World of Scientology in Plymouth.”

          Still… I look forward to seeing you both again.

  • Techie

    About the Patron’s Ball: The award photos were taken on the Freewinds. The giveaway is the tiled floor. If it were at the Fort Harrison the floor would be the painted wood stage floor. I don’t know how they do it nowadays but 12 years ago when I was there they had a very nice dinner for the patrons, then the event, then awards for the status upgrades, then music after the event. For the Patrons and above gifts would be placed in their staterooms during these activities like the recently released fiction book or some such. There is relentless pressure on all the passengers who attend the event to “upgrade their status” so they can be in those photos. I don’t know why Dave was not also in the ones for the high rollers, he usually is. Maybe they did this at Bonaire and he was off night scuba diving or something.

    • Graham

      Back in Cold War days there were people called Kremlinologists who would speculate about the significance of small things, such as someone not being in a photo, which might give clues to what was going on in the secretive USSR.

      So why was Slappy absent from the high roller photos? Is he ill? Is a coup in progress? Has he scarpered with all the cash? Has he grown too unpredictable to risk being let out in public? Can he just not be arsed any more? Hemetologists need to know!

      • Draco

        He only poses with people who donate upwards of $100,000,000 or thereabouts. It’s his subtle way of letting these other people know that their efforts are not quite good enough.

      • Susan black

        Yeah, where’s Dave? What does he do all day? We know he likes to shop. I read, tho can’t remember where, that he’s an avid gun collector. Is this true? Where does he play with his guns?

      • chukicita

        Didn’t the maiden voyage three-hour tour thing happen in June? Perhaps Davey was busy cutting a ribbon and cashing checks in Florida?

  • If that is the Robbie I think it is, folks, you are looking at one of the stars of LRH’s first Tech Film, “The Pro TR Course.” Robbie played the Course Supervisor and did a great job. He has had some rough times healthwise in recent years and I hope he has recovered. Really a super guy. The Army wanted him to go to OCS but he wanted to just be a grunt. His stories of VietNam were hilarious in an Apocalypse Now kind of way.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Our veteran is a Scientologist? Eek, I don’t know how I should feel now. Yes I do: he’s still worthy of accolades for his service.

  • [..] as Elite Millennium Disseminators for Scientology Media Productions

    How can you be an Elite Millennium Disseminator for something that doesn’t do any broadcasting or production? Isn’t the whole point of the SMP to do its own dissemination?

    • BosonStark

      Shhhhh! It’s a secret. Don’t tell anyone they’re not actually broadcasting anything on TV or radio yet. They are Elite Millennium Disseminators of the secret.

  • BosonStark

    Referring to Tom Cruise, Theroux asks Marc Headley, “He thinks that without Scientology, what would happen?”
    Marc says, “charred ruins.”

    Made me laugh, and it’s a good answer.

    • villagedianne

      Mrs. Headley has been feeding him well, which is good to see. It makes up for all those years on the Sea Org diet.

      • gtsix

        Or perhaps Mr. Headley is a fantastic cook in his own right.

        • villagedianne

          Yes, gender roles. I could be wrong, but IIRC Claire, with 3 kids now, is able to be a stay-at-home mom. So I took a guess she might be the chief cook. Though I guess you never know.

          • gtsix

            I was mostly joshing. πŸ™‚

            If my brother invites me for dinner, I go. If my sister-in-law invites me for dinner, I eat before I go.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Long version: The cursed prison planet, Teegeack, becomes the charred ruins that it was destined to become before Elron braved the Wall of Fire…only the cockroaches and pond slime survive!

  • Kim O’Brien

    i can’t WAIT to see the Louis movie ….!!! I wish i could get him to come speak to us at HowdyCon

    ( just throwing that out into the universe )

    • Juicer77

      He should attend, and do an episode on $ci watchers. o.O

      • Robert Eckert

        Some cults he might consider too dangerous πŸ˜‰

    • It’s looking more original and powerful with every little extract. I suspect the whole thing is going to be bombshell.

      It’s almost a pity that it was conceived as a cinematic release, because it’s going to take a while to come out on TV where it would have made more impact.

    • beauty for ashes

      Maybe some harmless flirting with Louis wouldn’t be terrible either. just sayin πŸ˜‰

  • Draco

    Is it just me, or are the really big whales leaving the aquarium quietly?
    Seems like the really big names aren’t about much lately. Feschbacks, Duggans, Cruise, Travolta – all seem to have gone very quiet on the scientology scene. UTR? Finally getting pissed off at being told to go back to the beginning and do it all again? Beginning to smell a rat? OT abilities not kicking in as promised? All gone mad on the SRD?
    Inquiring minds want to know…

    • Snippy_X

      I was wondering the same and Cardones?
      Were they “honored” last fall at the IAS shindig.

      • Draco

        Was a time when they were at all the events – front row centre. Cheering the little gnome on for all they were worth. Now they don’t even attend the opening of CoS’s biggest ever leap into the future of Epic Expansion – SuMP. Something’s fishy.

        • Mary Smith

          FYI you only get your picture taken when you advance to the next level. At the upper level the increments are $5M

        • chukicita

          But wait, the Ham Hock and Bride of Ham Hock were at the Harlem opening.

          • Draco

            A-List indeed πŸ˜‰

    • Juicer77

      Good question. I suspect those celebs and mega-whales are being kept strictly away from other members. Even those who donate a couple $mil aren’t good enough. The really big fish probably only meet with DM and their auditor (handpicked by DM, who also grills them after each session for useful tidbits). He can’t take any chance that they will hear or see a whiff of discontent.

    • chukicita

      Brian and June Zwan, for instance. The family foundation had seven figures in it when it was set up in 2001. Every year, large donations to IAS and Scn fronts and “causes.”

      But for the last 3 available 990s (2012, 2013, 2014), there are only gifts to real nonprofits to help with childhood cancer research and wog education scholarships. Sadly, though, the bulk of the foundation’s strengh was already shot on Scientology, and all the gifts combined are less than $20K.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Thank you chukicita, so good to hear that these whales, at any rate, seem to have swum away.

        • chukicita

          At least on paper.

    • villagedianne

      It looks like they have enough whales left over to keep the place afloat for awhile.

    • Kestrel

      I think there’s a balancing act with the big names. For one thing, they don’t want the little fish to think the big whales are always there to bail them out and seeing the same faces loses its impact. I also think the ‘names’ don’t want to be named too much, so they may be making contributions that go unpublicized. Besides, how many millions is it going to take for a Duggan or Mapother to hit the next Status?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      There’s another factor at work there as well. It’s been 30 years since Elron’s departure and all those super nifty upper OaTy levels (where the real super powers must surely lie ) which have been dangled before the kneeling faceful, er, faithful – like the proverbial carrot in front of the cart horse – still have not been released, nor has a future date for their release been made public.

      If you’ve topped out on the Bridge and donated vast additional sums for head pats from Dear Leader and garish bowling trophies, then you’ve got to be getting more and more impatient with being stalled on the Bridge to Total Freedom, just inches away from regaining your true Godhead status. I mean, fer chrissake’s, you’ve got the cash, you’ve towed the party line until now, endured all the costly re-treading of lower levels, perhaps even chumped for the very expensive pole running experience, but what good is all that to you if the body drops itself before you make it Out!?

      Imagine being parked on the Porch of your Eternity and sitting right next to the guy who’s got the key to unlocking it in his pocket, but won’t use it because, umm, what was the reason again? Rich whales and pampered $cilon celebs are used to having it their way and, as time passes and they grow old just like the rest of us, there’s gotta be a growing impetus among them to see that last door unlocked…after all, they’ve paid good money for their spiritual freedom, just like they were told to, so where’s it at!?

  • Juicer77

    Lidl… Possibly any relation to the Lidl supermarkets found here in the UK?

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I wondered the same but PJK provides an answer below. Basically they were once connected but no longer are.

      • Juicer77

        Cuz you know I was ready to slap Call Me stickers on every parking lot from here to Glasgow!

        • Graham

          LIdl (and Aldi) can be found throughout the UK, but they are recent arrivals and are German in origin. They quite shook up the supermarket business when they arrived here, with their cheaper prices and different approach to retailing.

          • I think Lidl and Aldi returned to the original ‘pile it high and sell it cheap’ concept.

            The likes of Tesco and Asda started like that but, after they dominated the market, those big players didn’t see the point of competing – it just drove down profits. They started talking about providing ‘a shopping experience’ instead – which is a sure sign that prices are going to go up.

            Lidl and Aldi have done the one thing that big chains in a relatively small market don’t like – compete on price.

  • Spike Robinson

    Hey ho, Bunkerites –

    A Scientology-related story at Jon Atack’s Open Minds Foundation webpage today.

    http://openmindsfoundation.org/real-life-stories/santa-clause-and-scientology

  • EnthralledObserver

    Islam = Religion of Peace
    $cientology = Religion of Happiness

    $cientology – uses the threat of disconnection to keep everyone in line
    Islam – uses the threat of disconnecting your head from your body to keep everyone in line

    Islam – child brides
    $cientology – child slaves

    $cientology – L Ron Hubbard – young girls in hotpants, affirmations, overboardings and RPF
    Islam – Mohammad – Aisha the 6 year old bride, sex slaves, stonings and jihadis

    They both extort money.

    • 0tessa

      Christianity could be added too.

      • daisy

        Christianity and Islam are religions. Your statement and up vote are bigoted.

        • 0tessa

          Christianity, Islam and Judaism are the monotheistic religions, stemming from the same source. Intolerance throughout history is their characteristic. The socalled pagan religions (like during the Roman Empire) were not inclusive. When Christianity became the official religion in the Roman Empire (Constantine) it started to destroy all other cults: Cybele, Isis, Mithraism, etc. The first antisemitic was a christian: his name was Paulus.

        • 0tessa

          I think you don’t know what a ‘bigot’ is. In my dictionary ‘bigot’ is said of girls or women who lead a more than normal religious life, who are very devout.
          Being an atheist, that could not be said of me me think.

          • daisy

            In my dictionary it means a person who is intolerant of other people*s beliefS.

            • 0tessa

              I take it that that is an American definition? My English dictionary doesn’t give it, only the one I gave you earlier.
              Even so, when I use your definition, I don’t think I am intolerant of other people’s beliefs. Being critical does not necessarily mean intolerant’.

      • EnthralledObserver

        It could be… might need some help with that one though…

        Christianity = Religion of Tolerance

        Christianity = uses the threat of denying being with God in the afterlife to keep followers in line

        Christianity = child ?? (what do they use children for?)

        Christianity – Moses?

        Yeah, they probably extort money too

        • ithilien

          Google pedophile priests and pedophile christian ministers. Theres plenty. Theres a facebook group called corrupt christians that posts many sorry tales of corruption within organized christian churches, cults, what have you. All organized religions are cults and all are potential trouble sources

          • daisy

            Well said from one troll to another, because there just isn’t enough hatred and fear without your two cents. Do not bother replying I know this is a derail.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Yeah, but what’s in their books and teachings (most in particular the current teachings, as those are the examples I’ve used for the other two ‘religions’?
            I’ve never mentioned wayward members… what does the doctrine say?

        • 0tessa

          In the Bible: Jesus saying that if you love your wife and family, you cannot love me. Exodus: 21:23,24 ‘ life for life ,eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot.’
          Child: sexual abuse in the Roman Catholic Church.
          The actual founder of Christianity is Paulus; very, very anti-Judaistic. (The word anti-semitic did not exist then; otherwise he would have been one of the first.). The way he described the jews was an example for the Nazi’s.
          Money: selling of indulgences (especially during the Renaissance).
          And then we have the Renaissance popes of course: any sexual crime, murder, bribe, you name it.
          Crusaders: killed everything (also Jews) in their way.
          The Spanish Inquisition.
          For those who read German: ‘Kriminalgeschichte des Christentums, Karlheinz Deschner.

          • I didn’t expect you to mention the Spanish Inquisition…

            • 0tessa

              Agree, I shoudn’t have mentioned that one. Bit too much.
              Could have mentioned their prison system for people in ‘a lower condition’, called the ‘ergastulo’ (see Italian Wikipedia). Also sinners, desobients parishers and mentally ill people were kept there, often in bunkers, without doors and windows, in chains.

            • 0tessa

              LOL1

          • EnthralledObserver

            Now do the modern version – apart from the ‘founder’ I was trying to stick with the modern versions of the teachings – the New Testament – Jesus’ teachings.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Where in the doctrine does it teach child sexual abuse that the Roman Catholic Church draws from?
            If not, what else do they use children for? Anything?

            • 0tessa

              There is not a written doctrine about sexual abuse of children, except of course one describing how to cover it up and deal with it.
              Concerning children: till mid 20th century Catholic families had to produce as much children as possible, even when they were poor. At least one of the children was destined to join ‘staff’ in the church. The more children the bigger the flock. And more money …

        • 0tessa

          Christianity (as the other two monotheistic religions) is not the religion of tolerance. On the contrary. Their lord, being Yahweh originally from the Jews, was a warlord, the God of the Vulcano. Read the first books of the Old Testament.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Well, that IS kind of the point. Neither is $cientology the religion of Happiness, nor Islam the Religion of Peace.
            It is/could be how they describe themselves, however.

    • flyonthewall

      EnthralledObserver = insane bigot troll

      • Snuzey

        Is this for real? EO has been on here for years and I’ve never seen this bullshit before!

        • flyonthewall

          Trump effect. People with that hatred and ugliness inside of them now feel emboldened and safe to spew their venom openly.

          • daisy

            Well she should know that this is the wrong blog. She should be blogging on – Insane rantings of psychopathic millionaires , and I agree OR I am a proud bigot

          • Snuzey

            Crazyness. It smells of a Scion derail! I’m actually really shocked. Maybe someone has hacked her account..?! Maybe you’re right though. Gutting. Just WTF really.

            • noseinabk

              Sad. I was pretty surprised but 3 days in a row posting this stuff is way over the top and a bit disturbing.

            • Snuzey

              Wow, didn’t realise there had been a weekend of it as well. Can’t help but think something is amiss here. For all the research and critical thinking that Scientology watching brings about, to see it not being applied by a long term watcher is way off course. It’s done my head in!

    • daisy

      That is a bigoted statement. Racial and religious hatred should not be tolerated . Scientology is not a religion so they are fair game. Islam is. You are uniformed. I am disappointed , I thought you were just having a bad day yesterday.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I should be able to hate precisely what I want… and who are you to tell me otherwise?
        But… it is an assumption on your behalf that I hate anything at all, of course. Seems your prejudice is actually clouding YOUR judgement and perceptions.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p2_DTlRaVzM

        • daisy

          I am the person YOU had the Gall to give advice on how to post . It is not leftist it is human . I am sick of bigots claiming that being a decent person has anything to do with political affiliation. I made the assumption you hate as you seem to throw hate speech around. Don’t bother replying I plan to use block technique for your illuminating posts.

          • EnthralledObserver

            And I’m sick of liberals/progressives assuming they have the high moral ground just because you put ‘feelings’ ahead of common sense. Not agreeing with leftists does not make one EVIL… all it means is that I don’t subscribe to liberal ‘rules’ of what is morally right and wrong. You don’t get to determine morality. All you get to do is say you don’t agree. But instead you call people names… using YOUR moral compass doesn’t that say something about your character? Maybe you should examine that!
            Sticks and Stones may break my bones, but WORDS will never hurt me. Remember that from your childhood? Harden the Fuck Up, pussies. It’s JUST words.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Oh… and the ‘safe space’ is that way >>>

              Wouldn’t want you to get lost and cry.

    • Graham

      This is a web-site for the discussion of Scientology. It’s not a comparative religions web-site.

    • chukicita

      Look. Not all of Islam and its 1.6 billion members are Wahhabi.
      Not every Muslim supports extremist beliefs and practices.

      But all of Scientology is supporting its extremism. Every single Scientologist, by paying membership dues to the IAS, is supporting harassment, fraud, human trafficking, and disconnection. There is a big difference in my book.

      • Spike Robinson

        Thank you, Chukicita. You said it much better – and much more politely – than I could have. I’m sick of people comparing all of Islam to the one tiny bit of it that does wrong, and those who think that “mainstream” Islam should apologize for the violence of Daesh.

        To blame all of Islam for the Wahhabi is like blaming all of Christianity for Jim Jones. Over-simplification of other folks’ religions leads to bigoted viewpoints.

        • Kestrel

          Thank you, Spike.

        • Robert Eckert

          I don’t like that extreme either. Supporters of Wahhabis, Daesh, Hamas etc. are not a majority of Muslims, but they are not a “tiny bit” either. They are a double-digit percentage, and pretending that they are a negligible fringe is as mistaken as pretending that they all or most Muslims are part of them.

          • flyonthewall

            Islamic terrorists are not Wahhabi either but an offshoot of Wahhabism, more like offshoots of offshoots of Wahhabism. The theorist Sayyid Qutb is the generally accepted starting point of modern extreme anti-Western political Islam. From there it branched off further and further into what we have today with ISIS.

            • Robert Eckert

              When the Wahhabi first took over Mecca in the 18th century (Egyptian troops then chased them into the deep desert from which they did not re-emerge until the 20th century) they slaughtered and terrorized the population. “Saudi Arabia is just Daesh plus 200 years” (can’t find the source but it is an apt line).

            • flyonthewall

              That was not simply religious extremism, it was political. It was part of the overthrow of the Ottoman empire in arab lands.

            • Robert Eckert

              There has never been a clear distinction between “religious” and “political” extremism within Islam, not since the beginning. Muhammad prescribed a state, with a full legal code; he was never simply founding a “religion” in the way others often understand the term (overarching world view).

            • flyonthewall

              Yes, Islam does have political and economic directives spelled out within it but what I was referring to was the partnership between Wahhabi clerics and the ruling Saudi tribe. Those are two different groups that formed a symbiotic relationship. This partnership has not been without tensions and hiccups either.

            • Robert Eckert

              The Saudi family was created by the Wahhabi sect in the 1770’s. They weren’t anybody before.

            • flyonthewall

              Nope, you’ve got it backward. Wahhab went to Saud for help and legitimization. Saud was a tribal leader, Wahhab was a religious scholar, he had no political power.

              http://www.au.af.mil/au/awc/awcgate/loc/sa/saud_wahhabi.htm

            • Robert Eckert

              Saud owned a date grove in the middle of the desert. As I said, he was nobody until the Wahhabi sect made him somebody.

            • flyonthewall

              Do you have any sources or should I just take your word for it? I’ve provided a few sources to back up what I say, I haven’t seen anything from you yet.

              eta – Oh and a “date grove in the middle of the desert” was probably pretty big time compared to your average bedouin

            • Robert Eckert

              The source which you gave to me is the one which described Saud’s holdings as a date grove in the middle of the desert. Yes, that was more than most people had, but that is precisely what I meant by saying that they were nothing until they latched onto this religious movement.

            • flyonthewall

              I’m not letting Wahhabism off the hook entirely or saying it’s harmless, all I’m saying is that it’s gone way past Wahhabism. ISIS and extremists like them don’t follow the Saudi Wahhabi scholars or political rulers. They hate them and call them “scholars for dollars”. They’re seen as agents/stooges of America and the West. ISIS just set off suicide bombs in Medina last month during Ramadan.

            • Robert Eckert

              Radical factions often hate each other. But ISIL is not “beyond” Wahhabism: they are just two peas from the same pod.

            • flyonthewall

              That’s over simplified and just plain incorrect.

            • Robert Eckert

              Claiming that Wahhabism and Daesh ideology aren’t related just because they hate each other is also oversimplified and just plain incorrect.

            • flyonthewall
            • chukicita

              Yes – there is more than one point of origin for violent extremism in Islam, just like there is in Christianity (from the Ku Klux Klan to the Lord’s Resistance Army to the Christian Identity Movement, Aryan Nations, etc.), and plenty of disaffected mentally ill people willing to be ‘inspired’ by their agendae.

            • flyonthewall

              True, they do attract nuts but by and large Al-Qaeda’s recruits came from normal middle and upper class educated families. Most all the 9-11 hijackers were college educated. The discussion of what attracts people to Islamic extremist groups is a whole thing in and of itself.

            • chukicita

              I think the discussion is larger (and interesting) – if it weren’t Islam, would these same folk be attracted to other forms of extremism?

            • flyonthewall

              I think it takes a unique set of political, historical, social and economic circumstances to allow radical ideologies, whether it’s in 1930’s Germany, 1980’s Afghanistan or 2016 USA, to gain followers and thrive. The conditions have to be just right or else people will just go about their business and aren’t going to be bothered with persecuting and killing others and themselves for an idea.

            • I have theory of conversation of fanaticism.

              In every generation there are fanatics, usually frustrated people with a sense of entitlement and grievance. Sometimes these are totally unjustified. Sometimes they are the result of real prejudice – for example the backlash against innocent Muslims by unprincipled politicians and bigots is one of the most powerful recruiting tools that the radicals have.

              In every generation there is an organisation whose doctrines justify the mad notion that ‘the ends justify the means’. In my youth, it was Maxist-Leninists who killed innocents because it would supposedly bring about world revolution to the benefit of all.

              None of it made sense, but that’s not why people joined. They joined for a sense of mission and power and to be able to shrug off civilised restraints. Some just liked the idea that they were justified in killing.

              Sometimes the organisation can’t help but do evil. There were not very many ways to impose communism, so Marxist-Leninist groups typically ranged from controlling to homicidal.

              Sometimes, potentially peaceful groups are hijacked. This generation it seems to be the turn of Islam, for complex political reasons.

              Next generation – who knows. It could be some presently peaceful group which is perverted or some completely new synthetic belief system. Some people just want to rise above the crowd and, in the absence of real ability, attract attention with pointless violence.

              A new problem is that, once this kind of thing is established fanatics can work on a networked, global scale so much more easily. ‘Network wars’ are here to stay, and the one we are currently embroiled in is only the first of many.

            • Don’t confuse him with facts.

              The truth is too complicated. That’s why we have bigots – they want a comprehensible world where there are blacker than black villains who can be hated without restraint and blamed for all our own shortcomings.

              Some people enjoy hating too, and Muslims are such a visible target.

            • flyonthewall

              I don’t think Robert is a bigot or is hateful. He’s def not on EnthralledObservers wavelength at all. I think he is just being realistic as he sees it. I would question the percentage thing though; when you start talking numbers like that you really need to be able to back it up with hard evidence. If I criticize Israel’s Palestinian policies and settlers does that make me an anti-Semite? I am not but some people would say I am.

              I am not against criticism of Islam, some things need to be able to be discussed or problems won’t just not get fixed, they’ll get worse and at the same time we risk falling into an apologist enabling role.

              eta – Some people cannot look at Islam and say this is ok and this isn’t, this practice is a carry over from pre-islamic Arab culture and this isn’t, Judaism says and fundamentalist Jews do/advocate similar things as fundamentalist Muslims, etc etc etc. David Pakman says it pretty well here – https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=05cJg9d82KI

            • Oops… That was meant to be a reply to “EntralledObservers” provocation and absolutely not intended to refer to Robert.

              This demonstrates one of the dangers of letting bigots rile you up – friendly fire.

              Lesson learned. I will ignore EO in future. .

            • EnthralledObserver

              Whoops… did you accidentally call someone you didn’t mean to a ‘bigot’ and ‘hateful’ because they were doing the exact thing I did – evaluating the facts and discussing their merits? Robert is apparently the protected species… but I’m not. I’m the EVIL right-wing troll.
              Oh dear… hypocrisy is a tricky thing to navigate, innit?
              ffs… you lot are so pathetically transparent and reactive.

            • No. I was responding to you, and it occidentally looked as if I was responding to someone else. I didn’t know it was Robert – it could have been anyone. I didn’t even know what he was saying. That’s actually pretty obvious, considering our previous interactions.

              You see yourself as a Troll, and now you are taunting me for making a simple mistake, which confirms that. What I am supposed to do to make you happy? Become abusive perhaps? I don’t know. Why do you deliberately provoke?

              I do know that this kind of behaviour has a limited life. After you waste a lot of time deliberately annoying people, they stop listening to you (or block you, now that Disqus has that facility). This is not going to actually damage any agenda you might have.

              It’s more fun to engage than it is to provoke, and the subject of this forum is interesting enough. I wish you would put the other stuff aside, here and join in.

            • EnthralledObserver

              No, I do not see myself as a troll… it’s what I’ve been ‘labelled’ here by some who don’t appreciate free speech.
              I deliberately provoke because I made an impassioned comment one day when I was very upset and furious after discovering there had been another brutal attack in Europe by Muslims, only to come here to some other bad news involving $cientology getting away with something else and I see correlations between $cientology and Islam in the way they escape justice and sustain their existence even in the face of obvious criminality by using Western values and law courts against us.
              All I got back was abuse and appeasement BS.
              So therefore it became pretty clear to me why they both persist, because bleeding heart, liberal, social justice warriors refuse to give up their virtue signalling to actually DEAL with the problems.
              It’s much easier and safer for them to abuse me… because then nobody calls them a bigot or a racist. Why are people so cowardly?
              I will persist until the thick-headed SJW realise I have every right to express myself. Don’t worry, I try to get in a relevant $ci comment in my travels.
              Does it not bother you that anyone expressing an alternate view is attacked so vehemently? It does me. It’s wrong.

            • What I object to is the way in which you see only the homicidal ‘Muslim’ extremists (whom everyone agrees are crazy and do terrible things) and refuse to acknowledge the existence of peaceful Muslim sects, cultures and individuals. Others may be objecting to that, too.

              It’s simply not true that all Muslims are Jihadists. In fact, treating peaceful people with suspicion prejudice is exactly what the extremists want you to do – it’s a great recruiting tool for them.

              Expressing an alternative view is fine. However, others have their views, to which they are also entitled and becoming even more extreme is not going to persuade anyone to change – it’s going to lead to people losing patience with your fixed, extreme position regarding a subject that is irrelevant to this forum.

              Nobody’s infringing on your free speech. They just disagree, and are tired of you trying to force them to comply with your off-topic opinions about Islam.

            • EnthralledObserver

              First of all – I have expressed only a tiny portion of my full views on the matter of Islam here, I simply do not have the time to say everything I believe, but you and others seem to like to fill in the blanks… incorrectly, I might add. I know there are peaceful Muslims… my beef is not with Muslims, it’s with Islam – the written doctrine, the teachings. You say it’s my view that pushes Muslims to extremist behaviour, I beg to differ, I say it is the call to violence that is prolific in the doctrine and often taught in Mosques (there’s plenty of video evidence, so no point refuting it). You are welcome to discuss it with me, I have no problem with you expressing your alternate opinion when I express mine… but you know very well that’s not what was done to me in response. I was called names, abused, attacked and ostracised, just from one comment each time – why? To shut me up? Because my view is the ‘wrong’ one, and I must be evil if I could think like that? I never forced/or attempted to force my view on anyone – and in fact you’ll find that it’s actually the other way around – that’s what the word ‘bigot’ is intended to do – shame me into changing my mind or just disappearing.
              Unfortunately for the perpetrators I’m not the kind of person to step back from attacks like that. I’m not a coward, and not afraid of their silly words like ‘bigot’, ‘racist’ and ‘troll’ etc.
              None of you know me, the only person who has met me is Tony… and quite clearly despite commenting here for approx 5 years I apparently can count none of you who had a go at me as ever having been my friend. I know that now, and won’t be hesitant to express ALL my views now, because none of you give a crap about MY feelings, quite clearly… I’m not human, just a right-wing troll.

            • 0tessa

              A quote from K.-H. Deschner (from his Criminal history of Christianity), paraphrased by me: ‘ and the good christians are the most dangerous, (because) one mistakes them for Christianity’.
              Same could be said of muslims: … and the good muslims are the most dangerous – one mistakes them for Islam.
              I’m sure I don’t make myself popular with this quote. They don’t see the iromy of it.

            • EnthralledObserver

              That is scarily true – I hadn’t heard that quote before, thanks for sharing it.

              No, it wouldn’t make you popular… you already did get caught up in the overflow of lefty ire directed at me too, didn’t you? lol

            • 0tessa

              I tend to ignore internet ire. I try to separate emotion from facts and ratio. Religions should be critically examined and truth must be told. And those who don’t like it, well, don’t read it.
              Also, I don’t know nowadays what left and right actually mean. That paradigm is done and dusted. It’s true however, that those on the left tended to ignore the dangers of mass immigration and religious abuses, the PC people. In western Europe where I live, the leftist parties lost much of their voters because they did not listen to their complaints. That’s why we have the populists gaining power: Trump, Wilders, Le Pen etc.
              Also here in the Bunker there is a form of group think, e.g. the Marty Rathbun hype. Some of us had a different opinion (myself). On the other hand, if someone calls you names if reflects especially on the person him/herself.
              Stay cool.

            • I’m totally blank when it comes to middle-east, but didn’t syria threaten and did release around 2-300 extremist prisoners as a result of US involvement? And what ever happened to all those?

            • flyonthewall

              I haven’t heard that but it would surprise me bc the Sunni extremists are one of the large factions fighting Bashir in Syria.

            • Cool you gave me just the info to find it: http://www.thenational.ae/world/syria/assad-regime-set-free-extremists-from-prison-to-fire-up-trouble-during-peaceful-uprising

              This was what started the whole IS-ISIS back then…

      • EnthralledObserver

        This will shock you then…

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bV710c1dgpU

        • chukicita

          *eyeroll* No.

          Yes, that is what Wahhabi say – there is no ‘extreme’ there is only Islam.

          Just like every Christian does not have to adhere to the policies and practices of the Westboro Baptist Church.

          A lot of what the Wahhabi incorporate is really outdated Arabic cultural practices, which really aren’t Islam, but they call them that. Just like with the Bible, you can find quotes in the Qu’ran that can be misinterpreted all over the map.

          • Harpoona Frittata

            Exactly! But even more fundamentally, you can find passages in both the bible and the quran that are in direct conflict with each other on a number of pivotally important issues, such as violence and conversion.

            As a result, it’s impossible to be a strict believer in either holy text as the infallible, literal word of God without becoming stupid as well. For example, it’s logically impossible to “turn the other cheek” while exacting “an eye for an eye”. And the inability to perceive those mutually exclusive contradictions in those holy texts, while blindly following one interpretation as if its direct contradiction in the text didn’t exist, is at the definitional core of fundamentalism in any religion and it also why fundamentalist belief and stupidity are virtually synonymous.

            $cn is an ultra-fundamentalist religion because its holy scriptures – beneficently gifted to all of mankind by Source – are not open to interpretation and any parishioner who openly ascribes a figurative or metaphorical meaning to them will not only be excommunicated, but declared a suppressive person as well.

            In stark contrast to the holy texts of every other religion, $cn’s written articles of faith and central tenets of belief directly admonish the faithful to follow the literal words of the founder in all things and to duplicate his intent and meaning exactly, leaving no room whatsoever for interpretation or differences of opinion between believers.

            Indeed, a number of scriptures written by Elron, such as “Keeping Scientology Working” not only make the fundamentalist literal belief in the scriptures a required condition for membership in the church, but provide a detailed strategy for ensuring that they are never open to alteration or interpretation. It is, in a sense, a meta-level Commandment, standing above all the rest, and designed to ensure that, for all eternity, the exact words of the founder are to be taken literally and never altered in any way.

            How profoundly ironic, then, that a man-god who took such pains to ensure that his infallible word would be forever preserved in the exact form that he first presented it would have his carefully planned succession, and the organizational distribution of his authority, so fundamentally undermined and then destroyed so quickly. The fact that $cn has NOT been kept working since Source departed this earth and subsequently failed to reappear and resume his duties in the next life as promised, is directly evidenced in the collapse of the primary success stats that Elron explicitly laid out as the most direct measurements of progress toward clearing the planet: number of well done auditing hours and fully trained auditors.

            Without an increasing number of fully trained auditors working full-time in their profession, auditing hours can not increase and, as a direct and unavoidable consequence, no gathering wave of cleared humans will be set free…it’s simple as that!

            Stats don’t lie, so, if that dwindling spiral continues unabated, the handwriting is already on the wall: $cn must die!

          • EnthralledObserver

            So YOU are telling these Muslims THEY are ‘misinterpreting’ their holy books?
            Right.

            • chukicita

              No, I am saying that they do not represent all Muslims. Seen?

            • EnthralledObserver

              “A lot of what the Wahhabi incorporate is really outdated Arabic cultural practices, which really aren’t Islam, but they call them that. Just like with the Bible, you can find quotes in the Qu’ran that can be misinterpreted all over the map.”

              ^^^ Yeah, I don’t think so… I think it was clear what you were trying to say – the Whahabi don’t know the difference between their historical culture and what’s written in their books. But yes, best to back-track… that WOULD be awfully arrogant of you.

            • chukicita

              Wow. Not what I was saying at all. There are many places in the world that don’t have a history of consciously separating religious and cultural practices. Not sure why you want to make this all about me, but I’m not the only one who noticed this. In fact, I learned it from some Muslim friends. πŸ˜€

    • ithilien

      Interesting to see the kerfluffle you riled up. Of course , your comparisons are simplistic and superficial, and only apply to the extremists in both religions, but im not commeting on your content, just the sci techniques used to discredit you…name calling and suggestions of ostracism so far.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Amusing, right?
        They twist themselves up so tight with self-righteousness and hypocrisy they can’t do anything but spew bile at me.
        Especially that Kim ^^ – she gets apoplectic with rage when $cientologists abandon their children to pursue their ‘bridge’, but jokes about FGM like it never happens anywhere in the world, let alone in her sparkling, perfect country full of lovely, moderate muslims. Hide your clit, indeed.

        • Kim O’Brien

          foreigner
          no one is going to save you when they come for you …our streets are covered with clits ….they are winning everywhere …resistance is futile …dump your kids and make a run for the bridge

        • flyonthewall

          what is your weapon of choice when you go out at night to attack darkies and immigrants? I’m guessing straight razor

          • Kim O’Brien

            i was amazed by how many Aussie’s would just feel totally comfortable using the words
            ” wogs” and ” darkies ” and ” slant eyes ” ….in a conversation with a white person like me from America . It was so freaking weird . This was only like 20 years ago . It was like stepping into a time warp .

            • flyonthewall

              They’re just keepin it real Kim, not like us fake polite Americans

            • Kim O’Brien

              she makes a lot of these types of posts …at like 2am her time . This is not someone with any influence or standing in the community . They feel left behind and forgotten about ….cuz they are . Can you imagine taking that chick to a party or a social gathering …where there were normal people ? LOL …

        • George Layton

          The agenda pushing, using extreme examples, gets old. Maybe because it’s election year, maybe because it parallels so closely hubbardian semantics.

    • Kim O’Brien

      don’t leave the house …they are coming after you …America is not going to save you …you live SO CLOSE to a Muslim country ..right there on the pacific rim …you are going to die in a fiery blaze . Hide your clit

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Frumpy rich people throw money at dwarf?
    I guess it’s better than dwarf-tossing.
    Barely.

    Whales and the Olympics:
    Jenna’s favourite Olympic events?
    Individual equestrian undressage and the pommel horse gymnastics
    DM’s? Fencing
    Kirstie? Uneven bras bars
    Grant and Elena? Synchronized drowning
    TC? Rings
    JT? Graeco-Roman wrestling and the 200 M backstroke
    Joy Villa? Butterfly
    Sea Org? Hurdles and marathon

    And can I suggest this site to the whales?
    It is infinitely less expensive to make your own bubbles.
    http://bubbleblowers.com/homemade.html

    ————————————————————————
    Howdy would have been pleased –
    great whites eating a minke whale carcass off Cape Cod.
    Reminds me of regs – they won’t leave much either:
    https://www.theguardian.com/environment/video/2016/aug/07/great-white-shark-feasts-minke-whale-carcass-massachusetts-video

  • John Prince

    Hey cob..I’ve upped my Status, so up yours!

    • Missionary Kid

      *Still Laughing*

      • John Prince

        I Do what I can to keep the laugh-attack rolling! I only wish I could hear how the Stand-up Comics around the U.S. are ripping up co$ These days!! They MUST be having a Ball with this..remember, laughing at these Mindless morons is the Best way to get their bungholes even more uptight

  • BosonStark

    I like how when a person gives a measly $50,000 to a million, you don’t get your kids to stand up there with you. But when it gets into the millions, with the bowling trophies that need a special crew to transport Xenu knows where — back to the trophy room or a secret underground warehouse somewhere — then the kids and the whole family become holy. Blessed be the Duggans, and their holy offspring.

    • It must be fun at the trophy workshop, trying to figure out what to add for the next level.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      $cientology – the only religion where giving anything less than a million just gets you a third-place bowling league trophy senior’s division πŸ˜‰

  • FredEX2

    O/T but this is kind of amazing. There are about 50 dragonflies flying back and forth in front of my bedroom window. They are beautiful, and I’ve never seen this happen before. They are only here at my house and not in anyone else’s yard. Where did they come from? I’ve seen a dragonfly or two flying around a lake or river or meadow…but never so many in one place all at once. Wish I could get a photo but they are so quick. It’s amazing to see them!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Wow, try pointing your camera and clicking randomly. You might catch a gorgeous light show πŸ™‚

      • FredEX2

        They were flying around in figure eight circles rt in front of my window for about 30 minutes. It was the most amazing thing to see. I sat there watching them and trying to get a video or snap a pic but they were so swift…and I just had my IPhone. Then they suddenly flew away… one right after another and are now completely gone. There are no lakes or rivers near me and its 105′ out. Not a dragonfly’s natural environment at all. I have no idea where they all came from…but I love that they were here.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          How magical, Fred! That’s a once-in-a-lifetime experience. I would have loved to have seen it.

    • ithilien

      Wonderful experience. Dragonfly watching is in now. Perhaps spirits are visiting you.

      • LHS

        You never know. Joy Harjo saw swarms of butterflies right before her granddaughter was born and gave her a name that means Butterfly Girl in the Mvskoke language. It’s in her poem called “The Appearance Of The Sacred Was Not Likely.”

        • ithilien

          Beautiful.

        • ithilien

          Beautiful

          • LHS

            Her book “A Map To The Next World” is on my list of books I initially read for school assignments but then genuinely loved, treasured and reread for years.

    • beauty for ashes

      That happens in my back yard every so often. Maybe 10+ not fifty. You have no idea how hard I have tried to film it. My camera does not zoom well. I always get Claire de Lune in my head watching them. πŸ™‚ So Beautiful. Good luck capturing them!

    • MrsLurksALot

      Okay, this is crazy. I have noticed an incredible amount of dragonflies this year, more than I’ve ever seen. No kidding, each day (at my office) I’ve seen double digit numbers. I keep asking people if they’ve ever noticed so many before…..no is generally the answer. I guess 2016 is the year of the dragonfly. SE Coast of the US, just so you know.

  • TexasBroad

    Have the trophies gotten smaller and less gaudy? Seems to me they used to be much bigger. Perhaps they did a survey.
    I hadn’t previously seen this clip of My Scientology Movie and dropped my phone on my cats head when Louis belted out his scream at the ashtray. I can’t wait to see this movie! Disheartened that there is still no word on a date.
    How can anyone possibly turn down an invitation to chat with our charming I-Betty? Thanks for sharing the video, and all the pictures previously, I-Betty…looked like a great time was had by all.
    For the record, I have lived in Texas for over 30 years and the only people I have ever heard say “Yeehaw” were visitors from New York. πŸ™‚

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Thanks, Ms Texas! I’m so happy you enjoyed the photos. Wherever I am I’m always thinking about pictures for the Bunker because I know how much I love seeing other people’s.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      It is SO unfair that we in the US would need to travel across the big oceans to see his movie. Darn it. And I am saving up my travel money to move to Canada should it become necessary in November…

    • Kestrel

      As one who spends a good amount of time in rural Texas, I have heard “Yeehaw” used, but more than half the time, we’re being sarcastic. I think it’s found itself in the “bless her heart” realm.

      • TexasBroad

        Now THAT, I say all the time.

    • outraged

      The trophies are smaller! I noticed that. DM is downsizing. heh.

      • TexasBroad

        Better because they can fit inside a trash can and won’t be as obvious as one left at the curb.

        • outraged

          And he cares not for the trophies or the whales.

    • Jeb Burton

      Yeah. They used to be as tall as DM. Are these marks actually proud of their trophys? Couldn’t the cult come up with something a little bit classy when you give hundreds of thousands?

  • Phil McKraken

    This morning watching Morning Joe, I saw a commercial wherein I learned that…

    a) Psychiatrists are the leading perpetrators of medical fraud
    b) Suicide is the number one cause of death in our military
    c) CCHR is running TV commercials

    Keep spending that dough, DM. After all, you can’t take it with you.

    • ithilien

      Yes he can…its called absconding.
      There are 22 veteran suicides a day. But i dont see how sci uses that as a selling point.
      Any details on if these commercials are actually CCHR?

      morning joe did contribute the ‘ i m consulting with myself because i have a very good brain ‘ trumpelskiltskin quote. Did you happen to see that live? I want to see scarboroghs facepalm

      • Phil McKraken

        Yes, definitely a CCHR commercial, unless someone else is paying to run commercials with the CCHR logo.

        • ithilien

          Scary ptopaganda. 1984

    • bella

      Suicide rates in the military is a big problem for many countries but it’s often linked to the LACK of mental health care available to personnel (among other factors).
      In simple terms: More mental health professionals = Less suicides.
      Scientology just pisses me off over their attitudes to modern medicine and the amount of people who have died because of it.

      • Phil McKraken

        There was no explicit line of logic, just a jumble of statistics as per standard Scientology blather, packaged in a nice slick cutesy animation style. I don’t know if I caught it in the middle, since just two stats seems a little odd. It was in the form of a quiz — Who is responsible for the most medical fraud? 1. Surgeons, 2. ???, 3. Psychiatrists — Answer: Psychiatrists, $5 billion per year; What is the leading cause of death in the military? 1. Combat, 2. Accidents, 3. Suicide — Answer: Suicide, 23 per day.

        I don’t know what they hope to get out of this. There may be an outside audience for backlashing against psychiatry, especially in the zone of medicating children. But who in Earth is going to take an interest in the connection between psychiatry medical fraud and military suicides (whatever that is supposed to be)? There simply is no audience for the idea that mental health care causes suicide.

  • ithilien

    Hemline of a gown should hit the floor. Just saying

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      She probably ran out of money for the extra few inches of material, having donated it all to the cult.

      • Kestrel

        Or is using the material as a tourniquet in an effort to stop the financial bleeding.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Boom!

        • Rasha

          ShhhBAP!!!

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    In My Scientology Movie all words spoken by the Miscarriage character will have to be censor beeped.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTgnmDaic0s

  • As with restaurant wine-lists so NOT with IAS ‘donators’ β€” second from cheapest is not a happy choice… (renew subscription to Impact or else):

  • Susan black

    Watching the clip of the actor playing Dave in a rage is just too funny…I want moar.

    • TexasBroad

      Funny in the recreation; terrifying in real life, I imagine. “Ecclesiastical Leader” Hmmmppff. Tyrant Dictator.

    • Juicer77

      Mr. Perez is SCARY good as Mismanage. I was lucky enough to be able to tell him so in person. Nice guy. I hope his career really takes off!

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I have the same exact suit as Eric Berg. At least he has good taste in suits.

    • TexasBroad

      Minus the IAS pin, I presume.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Good lord Xenu no IAS pen 4 Todd.

    • Jeb Burton

      The only ladies showing cleavage are the ones who shouldn’t. I’m not much of a fashion guy, but are those gowns hideous?

      • Juicer77

        With that much dough, hire a stylist who won’t lie to you. Eyeroll!

      • Harmless Weirdo

        When you’ve handed over all your money to a cult, you’ve got to settle for whatever gowns are on the last-chance clearance rack.

        Catty, I know. But lordy, they’re a dowdy-looking bunch.

  • chukicita
    • Qbird

      oh how bizzare! that’s … such an OTinky-dink thing — XD

      :::also hurricanes are scary bad:::

    • Observer

      I’m postulating that his dive will be flattened while no other homes or businesses in town will be touched.

      • chukicita

        Happy karmic Ending!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      *raises hand*

      Ooops. Postulated too hard there. How do we get postulate-specific so we get Observer’s ending below? πŸ˜€

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    I’m worried about the cult’s influence in Taiwan.
    I wish the Taiwanese would wake up soon, so the $cientology scam can be hindered and ended as soon as possible.
    As can be seen from this funny SurvivingScientology vid, they already found out quite some things about the cult, such as how Marc Headley escaped on his motorbike:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1IpnC6Wpyxk

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Wow, that’s a very incisive and entertaining quick cartoon tour of the cult for all those in Taiwan who need inoculating!

    • aegerprimo

      That video never gets old.

  • Laura Russell

    Good greif can I meet these silly saps andctake their money?? I’m going whale hunting they say a suckers born every minute here’s proof…lmfao

    • OOkpik

      Welcome to the Bunker, Laura.

  • Kestrel

    O/TMike Rinder posted another Terra Cognita offering. This one is about stats. This reminded me of the caregiver who had a GoFundMe to help deal with her injuries from an accident:

    “LRH famously said that when you reward upstats you get upstats, and when you reward downstats you get more downstats. This has been perverted to mean that a Scientologist must never help the needy, indigent, or anyone down on their luck.”

    How spiritual.

    • flyonthewall

      I don’t think it’s been perverted at all. That’s just one quote/policy of many that establishes Scientology’s contempt for the needy.

      • Kestrel

        “Make the able more able” doesn’t do much for those who are unable.

    • pluvo

      This has been perverted to mean that a Scientologist must never help the needy, indigent, or anyone down on their luck.

      Just for general info (I know it is not a statement from you): It hasn’t been perverted, it was meant as such from Hubbard’s mind-set.

      • flyonthewall

        jinx

    • FredEX2

      That is exactly how they believe. I remember being in the car one freezing cold winter day with my auditing ‘twin’ driving…and as we approached an intersection there were a couple of homeless people bundled up in virtual rags, begging for food or money or help…and as I reached into my purse to give them something she yelled at them to get their ‘filthy’ selves away from her car and admonished me for even thinking of helping them in some way. She said they are in their situation bc they caused it to themselves and that they were degraded beings and I shouldn’t ever even ‘look’ at them or feel sorry for them again. She said it was low tone to help them.

      WOW! I never forgot that moment. I felt sick inside at her lack of kindness or compassion.

      • Missionary Kid

        How long afterwards did you leave?

  • Jimmy3

    What do you call someone who props up Scientology with large sums of money but never sees their own child?

    A sperm donor whale.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Atheists on Air: Beyond the Trailer Park Ep. 79: Ex-Scientologist Pete Griffiths

    Aug 8, 9:30 PM – 11:30 PM EDT

    This week we are joined by ex-Scientologist Pete Griffiths. All the way from Ireland, “Griffiths ran a mission in Cumbria, in northern England, until his weekly figures petered out. By the time he moved to Westport, in 1998, he planned to return to Scientology once his children were grown and he could better afford it. It wasn’t until he heard of a protest in 2008 that he looked into Scientology online and had a β€œpenny-dropping moment”.

    β€œFrom 1987 to 2008 the thought control was all in place,” he says. β€œThen a lengthy unravelling process began. I got so angry that I burned any Scientology stuff I had lying around in a bonfire. I couldn’t look at it any more. The sense of betrayal is just incredible. The clues are all there, but you don’t see them.””

    Pete is now an anti-Scientology protester and YouTuber, offering support to former Scientologists and information about it’s many flaws and issues to current members through protests.

    Time to flush out your Thetans and move ahead on the Bridge!

    https://plus.google.com/events/c3reuiuia66bj2h41gpjct0vipg

    Don’t forget, we are LIVE on Spreaker with live chat! If you have questions about Xenu and Thetans in volcanoes, come over and ask!

    http://www.spreaker.com/show/beyond-the-trailer-park-aoa

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Good thing I just woke up!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Ha!

        • Eivol Ekdal

          I have popcorn too! Thanks to Sherb & Monkey.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Me too, but somehow I will never be able to bring myself to pop it.

  • flyonthewall
    • Kim O’Brien

      OT / how was Cirque with your little munchkin ? πŸ™‚

      • flyonthewall

        frickin amazing! Here’s a clip with some of my favorite bits. Hafsa loved the tightrope beetle and the grasshoppers at the end as well as the ants juggling huge kiwi slices w/their feet. Now I just have to work on convincing her that yes she can do this stuff if she really wants to and works hard πŸ™‚

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7VgGX65ygVI&t=0m35s

        • Kim O’Brien

          SO COOL !!!!!!!

        • TexasBroad

          LOVE Cirque du Soleil! What a great date with your girl. Was it Fly Daughter’s ACTUAL birthday yesterday? If so, you and I have something else in common…my baby turned 17 yesterday.

          • flyonthewall

            nope it was the 4th but that’s pretty dang close!

        • beauty for ashes

          She can, I took a trapeze lesson at a circus school in SF! They are all over the place now.

  • Evey Hammond

    The use of active duty military and veterans who have sacrificed and been wounded for our country to prop up a Co$ front group that wants to eliminate the very services needed to help our troops when they return home badly affected by combat is truly sickening and despicable. They are the lowest of the low.

  • nottrue

  • Kestrel

    O/T: You just never know when a reference to Scientology might appear. Like this, in the comments on a sports item discussing the Chicago Bears of the NFL:

    “I was going to read up on offseason activities, but stopped after seeing this headline. ‘Eddie Royal could be the Bears’ breakout player of 2016 | Bears Wire.’ Scientology couldn’t get its followers to buy that claim.”

    • Observer

      I can feel the burn from here!

    • Franklin Adams

      Being a Bears fan is about as hopeless and being a Raiders fan. I would know. I’ve been into the Raiders my whole life. And its been nothing but misery.

  • Dave Reams

    Regarding the golden meritorious Lidl couple, Europeons will recognize the Lidl name as a ubiquitous budget supermarket. According to a German news article (with confirmatory photo of Gerhard Lidl), the Lidls are only very remotely associated with the market. Gerhard Lidl is a property developer in Munich specializing in garages – which explains perfectly why Gerhard allows David Miscavige’s car to park in his garage.

  • iBetty on the move…
    https://youtu.be/qbmpydG1QJ0

    • Baby

      Beautiful woman..I could listen to Betty’s voice all day.. and John M. he is a warrior and a hunk.. ha..

      Love the ” Call Me ” Tech!

      • daisy

        He is good looking and he can call me too. Do you think Phill will mind if I add my phone no. to his sign?

        • Baby

          hhahahah No not at all.. you silly

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Love it, “Now they’re using cockroach tech”

  • daisy

    Now that , thank heavens , gays are out of the closet there is enough room for our new over the radar racist bigoted bunkerites to go back in. Shame on you for spouting your tripe here.

    • jazzlover

      Wha happened?

      • daisy

        daisy got a little worked up realizing a long time poster and some of her admirers were bigots . This poster has given me advice in the past , so I may have taken it more personally than I needed too. There is usually one asshole in every group , I am just grateful it is not me for a change.

        • jazzlover

          Sorry to hear that. I haven’t really been around today, so your post seemed out of left field. But, as they say about Lay’s potato chips, you really can’t have just one πŸ˜‰

        • Jimmy3

          I thought we were talking about blankets?
          wth

          • daisy

            I was talking about blankets , but some people were suggesting that the plaid and flowered ones were * too colorful * and as I have Scottish ancestry it upset me. On consideration though it might be that being Scottish is why I am upset. Join me at the bar and we will work it out.

            • Franklin Adams

              I’m Scottish also. I’ll buy you a couple shots of good single malt. I could use it and I think you could too.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Hm, I missed all that.

    • Jimmy3

      I love Muslins. They are light and soft but still very warm. Perfect for cool nights in the summertime.

      • daisy

        * White cotton * is not the only material. I love you , you silly ass. All the wind out of my righteous indignation sails have been taken out.

      • Hail Satin!

    • Glen

      Daisy, Enthralled Observer has been spewing that hateful rhetoric for quite awhile now, usually in the morning on the west coast of the USA. (I know she is in Australia). I’m all for free speech but it is indeed, very disturbing. One of the insults she flings at those with other points of view is by calling them “a lefty.” More of a badge of honor than an insult for most of us here. Again, her extreme right wing political point of view with insulting generalized commentary and argumentative and demeaning responses is off-putting and inappropriate. She does seem to provoke a pretty heated reaction as well. I’m usually all for avoiding political trolls and fights but it is hard not to challenge warped analysis.

      • daisy

        I won*t bother with answering her again. I didn’t realize this has happened before yesterday. Thanks for the info.

        • Liberated

          Hey Daisy, you might want to check out the new Disqus blocking option.
          I like it, it’s a good thing.

        • Franklin Adams

          I said my piece on Saturday Morning. I’m not in the mood to do it again today, I had a long day on very little sleep. And it could very well be another long night. We had a substation explode and knock out power from Santa Fe to Los Lunas, though Rio Rancho didn’t lose much power. PNM was overwhelmed, they got so many calls that it knocked their PBX offline also. I know better than to even attempt to rationally argue with a racist.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    There once was a Lidl clam
    “I’d like to know who I am”
    Then a “Pope” who was little,
    With a face flecked with spittle,
    Took a cool million for his scam

    Several US states allow concealed carry.
    $cientology is in favour of con-sealed carry-on.

    The Garcias, unhappy with their thus-far failed attempts to sue
    $cientology for fraud and to get their monies back, begin therapy.
    Luis and Rocio’s takeaway from seeing their analyst?
    Her profound statement for those dealing with $cientology:
    “Change can only come from within.”

    Is Tom Cruise the most determined pervert in the history of flight ?
    The fecker still hasn’t found the toilet window but he is holding on.

    Was that Johnny “Good Win” Goodwin promoting Jonny “Goodboy” Tyler?
    “Goodwin” – with that name, was he ever fated to be a Ronbot!
    Dear me, how tired this schtick is!
    “Source” wrote it so it must be genius, right?
    Well, actually, NO, a loud and emphatic no.
    It is drivel.
    There is more depth in a puddle and more culture in yogurt.

    Much has been made of lead problems in Flint, Michigan.
    Lead poisoning kills thousands every year.
    DM, he of the footbullets, may be a victim already.
    If WholeFoods embraced con-sealed carry and came to his rescue:

    Organic, free-range, mined and hand-picked on the night of the full moon by real American citizens, all vestal virgins.
    Our pristine meadows and pure deep-well water are the source of this gluten-free non-peanut non-dairy bullet.
    These have been tested for quality in lush fair-trade firing ranges.
    They fire true.
    They fire, true.
    Available only by the gross.
    S&H 47%extra.
    All packaging is 100% biodegradable.

    Lord Hubris: To the misdemeanor born

    • Baby

      Perfect Maestro! Your words are music…

      • Vaquera

        Thank you for penning what my thoughts couldn’t congeal. Bravo Pan!

  • nottrue

    Anything that drags Hubby into the public eye I’m for but it’s not free… https://youtu.be/jXT4l6GA00E

  • Royce Harlow

    Steve Wu & Lucia Kuo: “We gave 5mill and all we got was a lame cruise on a rustbucket”

    • Franklin Adams

      An asbestos filled rustbucket that the USCG would likely seize and sink if it came anywhere near American waters.

  • funnybroad

    I follow Officer Norman’s social media sites very closely, and I really don’t think he knew what the girls were getting. From what it looks like in the other videos, a Scientologist named “Yuri” from Los Angeles also sent some material gifts to some of the other residents without also including a booklet in their stuff.

  • Jgg2012

    What happened to the Duggans?

    • This is just the semi-finals. The winner from this round will have to face him at the Saint Hill IAS event as the Final Boss of the Bowling Trophies.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        You could make a hilarious video game.
        Mission 1: Go to the ‘free’ event, grab some quiche and make it out with wallet intact.

      • Liberated

        Do ya think some of these guys compare their trophies late at night?
        “Mine’s bigger than yours”

        • Kestrel

          I’d love to see where the Duggans keep their trophies. I’m thinking they’re in a spare room that the housekeeper can’t get to.

      • Jimmy3

        The Whale Bowling Championships are exciting. The first frame is an entire hour of idiots trying to knock the pins down with their OT powers. Finally they just pay an employee to knock them all over.

        • Kestrel

          You’d think knocking down pins would be nothing for a person who can levitate an ashtray. Maybe the “wog” bowlers don’t appreciate them screaming at the pins.

  • “OK, have at it, campers. Let us know what you can about these fat cats”….Hey it’s International Cat Day!

    • flyonthewall

      I HATE FUCKIN’ RABBITS! DEY ALWAYS GOTTA SHIT ON DEM SEWVES!!

      • Jimmy3

        Maybe you’re fuckin the wrong rabbits. There’s gotta be plenty of hygienic ones out there for you.

        • flyonthewall

          SMELLS.LIKE.A POUND OF BULLSHIT!!

          • Jimmy3

            You’re able to determine the weight of shit by smell? That’s incredible. You must smell a lot of shit.

            • flyonthewall

              It’s from this movie Gummo. Fly Lady watched it while she was in labor with our first kid. She never lets me forget that. It’s a funny movie, I don’t see the problem.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZzpVaRpeWo

            • beauty for ashes

              Wait, and you ended up with the engram? I think Hubbard missed something.

            • flyonthewall

              No I got engrams by giving myself PDH. I really need a hobby.

            • beauty for ashes

              Puff Daddy Holograms?

            • flyonthewall

              pain drug hypnosis. basically I take a bunch of pills then hit myself while a weird movie or song plays in the background

            • beauty for ashes

              So in a way, I was close.

            • Franklin Adams

              Very theraputic, I wish I had some, even if I have to hit myself. I have a headache the size of one of the neighboring states, but im not sure if its Arizona, Texas, Colorado or Utah.

            • Jimmy3

              I know Gummo. I love Gummo. It was always on the IFC channel and my dad would come get me whenever he’d find it channel-surfing at night.

            • flyonthewall

              hey Jimmy it’s on again, come on hurry he’s about to eat spaghetti in the tub! lol, that’s awesome

            • Jimmy3

              It’s why I’ve been trying to grow a Burt Reynolds mustache since I was 12.

        • beauty for ashes

          just dip them in purell.

      • shh..

      • gtsix

        They’re really good with a nice hoisin sauce. Or a lemon herb sauce. Just fyi

    • Liberated

      I thought Meme was a girl.

      • Not Meme – she has a stand in!

        • Liberated

          Oh.

    • beauty for ashes

      This is toootally me with my cat . Happy cat day! F5

      • you look like that?

        • beauty for ashes

          Yep, that’s just a recent photograph of me lounging with kitteh on my marble bench.

          • daisy

            We could be sisters although I am a wee bit thinner.

            • beauty for ashes

              No you are much prettier.

            • I always pictured you like this F5

            • Observer

              That’s The Oracle

            • It’s Delphi

            • MrsLurksALot

              I just choked on wine…..You are hilarious.

            • Observer

              I was being snarky, but it really is.

              https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pythia

              One of the main stories was that the Pythia delivered oracles in a frenzied state induced by vapours rising from a chasm in the rock, and that she spoke gibberish which priests interpreted as the enigmatic prophecies preserved in Greek literature.

            • MrsLurksALot

              This deserves a hundred up votes…..

            • Kim O’Brien

              oh god LOL

            • MadisonAgain

              And NOT our Daisy!

            • beauty for ashes

              Is this a depiction of ancient vagina steaming? LOL

            • daisy

              I am either flattered , insulted, or turned on. My ignorance keeps from knowing which.

            • It’s my picture and i decide how i will picture you.. he he

      • Kim O’Brien

        that dress looks really comfy

    • MrsLurksALot

      International Cat Day? I’m all in……F5

  • beauty for ashes

    Nearly 1 in 4 active duty members showed signs of a mental health condition – See more at: http://www.nami.org/Find-Support/Veterans-and-Active-Duty#sthash.FGlhQemA.dpuf

    Yeah, an Infinitely better source of solutions. In fact I found pages of options in a simple google search. not that all vets are getting service. But even if you are not, scientology will just profoundly traumatize you further. Not at all a good solution!

    • Franklin Adams

      There’s still a huge stigma in going to mental.

      In my Branch, MI, they will threaten you with stripping your clearance (which if that happens you get involuntarily reclassed into a different MOS or chaptered). They can’t really do that but your first line supervisor or company commander will say that they can. Or they’ll threaten to sic counterintelligence on you because you’re a security risk, you might crack up and pull a Chelsea Manning. Its bullshit, and they won’t really do it, but they’ll say that they can and will.

      The combat arms are as bad in their own way, you get seen as a risk to everyone around you because you might freeze up when it counts.

      That anyone goes to mental voluntarily amazes me because of the heavy stigma attached to it. And they wonder why there’s so much alcoholism and drug abuse, as well as suicide and violent crime which hangs over the Military like a plague.

  • Kay

    Apologies for O/T:

    Daisy or Baby……if you are in the bunker now or log on later, I wanted you to know that I watched “Trophy Kids” per Daisy’s suggestion. I was horrified and felt so deeply sorry for those kids. Their parents…..I can’t even……sigh

    • Kim O’Brien

      don’t watch Jesus Camp . It will give you big sad’s too

      • Kay

        OK I’ll skip that one….this one was bad enough.

        • beauty for ashes

          Happy cat day! Kittens always cheer me up. f5

          • Kay

            Thank you !!!! So cute….such kitten-ness !! Love them, I feel better now.

            • beauty for ashes

              I love that at first it looks sweet, and then you notice he’s probably biting the crap out of him. Still cute when they fight!

      • Franklin Adams

        Jesus Camp scared the hell out of me, PLUS made me sad. Its a terrifying film.

        • Kim O’Brien

          yeah …i had to step away and then go back to finish it …and it haunted me . Ugh .

      • Missionary Kid

        I went to what could be called “Jesus Camp Lite” when I was a kid. It’s what happens when you get put in an environment where everyone is saying or doing the same thing, and you get praised for conforming. You’re in a bubble. I only got “saved” once, and it gave me an inoculation when I observed the same kids “backsliding” when they got out into the real world. At least, we didn’t have home schooled kids who don’t ever see the rest of the world.

        At least, there was no cruelty involved from adults, like “Trophy Kids” and “Dance Moms” and the “reality shows” about mothers who are cruel to their kids and steal their childhoods from them.

        • Kim O’Brien

          i hug my kid a lot and tell her she is perfect just the way she is ….how hard can that be ?

          • Missionary Kid

            When you have, “For all have sinned and come short of the glory of god” pounded into you, that is a different message. That’s why I dislike “Amazing Grace”: The line, “To save a wretch like me” pisses me off. There’s no way, I’m going to abnegate myself like that again.

            • Jimmy3

              We’re all human. We make mistakes, we fuck up, and we sin. No one here is God.
              That’s not such an outrageous statement.

            • Missionary Kid

              The first quote is from the bible. Their point is that there’s some big being up there that judges one’s behavior, and we’re all accountable for it, and we can never measure up.

              I don’t believe it any more. I’d rather believe that what I do now is what’s important, not for any future reward in a magical place.

        • Jimmy3

          How long was Jesus Camp?

          • Missionary Kid

            Usually, 2 weeks, IIRC. There was also Vacation Bible School, but that was at the church, and not at another location, in the mountains.

            • Jimmy3

              Two whole weeks of Bible Camp? I’m surprised any of you made it out of there with your sanity intact.

            • Missionary Kid

              Me, sane? Actually, when you’re raised like that, it’s no biggie.

            • Jimmy3

              I was raised like that. I went on many religious retreats and camps and whatnot. They were always preaching and repeating the Gospel to us. But I never had a problem picking what sounded right and choosing what to ignore. And even if it could be considered forced conformity to some degree, it certainly wasn’t mind control or hypnotism or a cult. I always found a way to enjoy myself.

            • Missionary Kid

              I had another layer of control on top of that, since my father was a minister, and we had, with the exception of nights when there were church meetings, at least a half hour of prayer and bible reading every night. It was much harder for me to navigate when I started to wake up. There was so much I didn’t know about the rest of the world, and so much guilt that had been laid on me. At least, they tried to make things fun at church camp, and I was away from home in a different environment.

            • Kestrel

              I had fun at church camp once. That’s all I’m going to say about that.

            • Missionary Kid

              I had fun, too. It was just all of the regging for Jesus that got old.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Yes, and I’m afraid that quite a few of those poor Promise Keeper girls could relate to that “backsliding” phenomena in more ways than one πŸ˜‰

          • Missionary Kid

            Bwahahahahaha! This was in the 50s. They didn’t even talk about sex that directly.

      • aegerprimo

        Then there was the reality show on TV – Dance Moms.
        Just ugh.

        • Missionary Kid

          That is flat out cruel to those little kids. I hated Honey Boo Boo because of the lack of parenting skills that mother had, too. IMO, a kid should never rule the household.

    • Jimmy3

      Some shitty parents are shitty and overbearing and way too demanding. Therefore, the Olympic Games are a celebration of cruel abuses of human rights, and they should be cancelled.

      • Qbird

        I have a headache, must be a brain tumor.

  • Susan black

    Why are the whales so happy in these pix? They’ve all given way too much money to Dave. None of them have any super powers. So why do they all play dress up and have these award shows? Is it the attention, the flattery, the way over the top applause? I guess yes.

    • It’s the Elite (and the wannabees) they do it like that.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      IKR, and they are the laughing stock of the world. How can they not know how idiotic they appear to everyone not in $cientology, i.e. 99.9 percent of the world around them? How can they not know???

  • randomity

    Sad that scientology trophies are so teeny.

    • Qbird

      I had fun with this F5!

    • flyonthewall

      also sad that scientologists are so teeny

  • beauty for ashes

    HEY Y”ALL! LOOK AT TONY”S LATEST TWEET!

    • Qbird

      TO be reading his book for posterity?!

      • beauty for ashes

        And prosperity! Cheers!

    • Susan black

      Excellent news

    • Jimmy3

      Well that’s ambarissing.

    • gtsix

      That’s what you get when you learn by reading/writing.

      I’ll never forget when I pronounced the word facade as fahkaid and my then girlfriend burst out laughing. We had a good chuckle over.that one for a year.

      • Missionary Kid

        I once did something snappy in front of my friends, and said, “Viola.” They laughed, thinking I was making a play on “voila”. I then realized that I had been misreading the word for years, even though I’d heard it used correctly, and started to laugh at myself. I’m not one who has to keep up a facade, so I let my friends in on the joke. I still chuckle over it.

        • richelieu jr

          “Viola!” I like it!

          • Missionary Kid

            To hear that from you is extreme absolution. Thank you. πŸ™‚

        • Ben there, done that. Mine was “omnious” (instead of “ominous”).

          • Missionary Kid

            I love it. One word that I heard someone say, instead of aileron, was airilon, which I think has a poetic ring to it.

    • daisy

      My mom is a reader of books but does not necessarily hear them used in conversation because she is not an avid TV watcher. She mispronounces words all the time for the delight of her daughter , my favorite was recently forensic . Oh daisy that new ( for seen ik ) unit is going to be built near the golf course. She also ordered the Jambone ham at a restaurant.

      • Rasha

        Jambone is a great name for a Blues musician.

      • MadisonAgain

        State of American education: university student crying in Prof.’s office bc “what does subtley (subtle) mean?” True story. And then “epatom” instead of epitome and “prevailant” instead of prevalent. Freshman textbooks are written at a ninth grade reading level.

      • aegerprimo

        You know Daisy, SO MANY words like that in medical terminology.
        toe MAY toe
        TOO mott TOE
        (tomato)

        • Missionary Kid

          Obecalp. For the rest of you, that’s placebo backwards.

          • aegerprimo

            OMG! I should’ve used that as my avatar name.

            • Missionary Kid

              My ex, (an RN, PNP) taught me that one. That way, the patient wouldn’t know what they were getting, of course. Another term that will get you sued today, ws the notation on the chart of a kid that might have possible genetic defects: FLK, for Funny Looking Kid.

            • aegerprimo

              TOO MANY LETTERS!
              I’m CST RNFA.
              Too many letters! I am Certified Surgical Tech and Registered Nurse First Assistant.

            • Missionary Kid

              Pediatric Nurse-Practitioner

            • aegerprimo

              I’m a FLK as well. LOL.

            • Missionary Kid

              I sincerely doubt it. That usually applied to kids whose heads weren’t symmetrical, or some other problem that indicated a need for further examination.

            • aegerprimo

              I was too tall for a girl. And cross-eyed and pigeon-toed. (Well I must admit, ugly duckling me did blossom and become a swan at 16 years old.)

            • Missionary Kid

              Some of the very plain Jane girls in my high school ended up looking spectacular, and the rest ended up looking pretty good. Girls have the disadvantage of maturing earlier than boys, so they can feel awkward, and, of course, some of their peers only make that feeling worse.

              A couple of examples of tall women who have gotten the revenge by living well are Taylor Swift and Nicole Kidman.

            • aegerprimo

              Both are beautiful women.

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, but I’m sure that they went through an awkward stage, being much taller than the boys they were around.

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              Our GPs have something similar here: β€œNFN” (Normal for Norfolk) indicating someone who might be slightly β€˜slower’ than the average :)http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/health/3159813.stmETA: Although my favourite has to be CNS-QNS!

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ll bet the citizens of Norfolk love NFN, if they know about it.

              I had to look up CNS-QNS: Central Nervous System Quantity Not Sufficient.

            • $cnmonkeyrob$

              (*whispers* monkey’s family is from Norfolk! πŸ™‚ )

      • richelieu jr

        I have to hope that was ‘jambon’ ham.. πŸ˜‰

        • daisy

          ennui was ( E nu E I ) queue is ( quake ), languages are the most funny , but she uses them correctly.

          • Baby

            My mom would say Guidar ( Guitar) spell Congratulations.. Congradulations always..

            and always.. to tighten something.. ” Make it TAUGHT ” NOT TAUT.. She would have bet me $10,000 when I first corrected her..

            and of course Sherbert instead of Sherbet.. ( but so did I for years..) xo

      • What’sup

        If my Mum doesn’t want to argue with you, she tells you it’s a “mute point”.

      • Baby

        Let’s see.. My reading vocabulary is much better than my speaking vocabulary.. I will laugh the loudest when I stumble..I’m not trying to impress anyone.. So I’m not embarrassed.

        for example.. I didn’t know if it was REGGING ( begging) or Regging ( Reggie Bush) so of course I don’t ask I just blurt it out.. and I am always corrected..hahaha

        • Graham

          I believe regging is pronounced “thieving” πŸ˜‰

          • Baby

            OH yes it is Graham..what was I thinking?

    • Rasha

      ….no wonder I always got bad service at French restaurants when I ordered “horse doovers”…

      • jazzlover

        I have the same problem when I order an “amusing douche”, and the maitre d’ escorts Cardone out of the kitchen.

        • Rasha

          …always wondered why they kept dropping off Netflix gift cards at the table….

          • jazzlover

            LOL. Hey, don’t knock it πŸ˜‰

            • Rasha

              Good point.

          • jazzlover

            He only looks a little less douchy there, putting on his best Marlon Brando πŸ™‚

          • Baby

            RM Jeeze guy can you give us a little heads up.. f5

            • daisy

              LOL-This picture is my all time favorite , to make it even better , picture him with poop all over the walls .

            • Baby

              hahahha .. OMG daise.. I love how you think! xo

          • FredEX2

            Oh man! Now I can’t un-see that. Shoulda warned us! πŸ˜†

          • aegerprimo

            Douche Bag.

      • Missionary Kid

        A friend of mine used to call them “horse’s ovaries.”

      • aegerprimo

        Heh heh!

      • Robert Eckert

        You need to order a can of peas
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aP4hzWFeHbI

    • AUDI BOOK!

  • Observer

    Have there really been no new posts for an hour, or is Disqus acting up?

    • Ella Raitch

      I’m showing 50 comments in total……something is hinky

    • Jimmy3

      Last post was a few seconds ago

    • TexasBroad

      If they whales really wanted to do something useful for the planet, they should fix disqus.

      • Jimmy3

        Slave the whales.

        • Baby

          Oh good one Jimmy

    • What’sup

      We were enjoying a moment of quite reflection…….but you ruined it.

      • Lol Yeah, we were reminisctiing.

      • Jimmy3

        I was waiting for it to move or speak or do anything, but my reflection just stayed silent and motionless. I believe this to be a metaphor for the Disqus development team.

        • What’sup

          Look….. Some Japanese anime came out with with girls with big eyes and even bigger tits. All them Manga boys are gumming up the works (eewwww) ,trying to comment at once on the latest thread.

        • Rasha

          Those summer nights,
          when we were young
          We bragged of things
          We’d never done

          …we were dreamers…..

          Yep! Disqus Dev Team! …and Dennis DeYoung, but fer sure Disqus devs…..

      • Observer

        That’s why Mr O calls me the Groove Crusher.

        • What’sup

          Groove Crusher and the Buzz Kill. Every Friday night at 9 on AMC

    • No new posts. It was a beer tasting hour.

    • flyonthewall

      everyone’s probably playing Pokemon Go

      • Rasha

        Goes without saying. No excuse.

    • Rasha

      Rasha was writing….

    • aegerprimo

      We are all crazy weirded out by the fashion faux pas of the IAS event?
      ……………….
      https://66.media.tumblr.com/45a98abb1326f92b9bdf1ed16fc51b0a/tumblr_mkykvjPGCx1rjecelo1_500.gif

      • Liberated

        I thought it was just me.
        Not only do these people have more money than sense, they have more money than taste.
        Yikes!

      • Baby

        OMG I think I just had a seizure

    • Rasha

      It’s Disqus – those two are exclusive. “Have there really been no new posts for an hour? Oh, and Disqus is acting up again.” FIFY! ^_^

    • Vaquera

      Sorry. James Magnussen distraction.

  • What’sup

    Totes O/T and not PC but too funny not to share. F5

    • flyonthewall

      She’s the real Ayetollah of rock n rolla

      • What’sup

        She still works nights dancing at The Gaza Strip Club!

        • flyonthewall

          I love their hamas and pita bread specials

    • Rasha

      Need audio.

      • flyonthewall

        it’s like a cross between Oum Kalthoum and Tom Petty *shrug* was ok

        • Rasha

          No link for a “Runnin’ Down A Dream” cover?

      • Scott H

        Add a huge bag of weed and it’s my undergrad years

    • aegerprimo

      So off topic, but here is my guess.

      Sue She and the Ban She’s.

    • Jimmy3

      Wrong Said Ahmed

      • Vaquera

        Winner

        • aegerprimo

          Yeah, damn good.

    • Robert Eckert

      Daesh Mode

      • What’sup

        I love their album “enjoy the violence” one of my all time faves.

    • Fatwa No More

      • What’sup

        No Fatwa shaming allowed in the Bunker Dodo…..unless it’s about Kirsty.

        • People who support and endorse fatwa and fair game should try it on themselves. Or better not.

    • Turkish Delight

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Totally hilarious! Can’t help myself: “72 Virgins ” “The Shia Pets” “The Jihadi Love Dogs”

    • BronxLaurie10

      “Sunni and Cher” wins.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    It looks like every D-list clam is still trying to score an SMP show. If only they were half as entertaining as they thought they were. *yawn*

    Here is Michelle Stafford’s “Single Mom A Go Go” w/ Stacy Francis…
    https://youtu.be/62XMoPN9ft0

    • daisy

      up voting the find only. These two are in no way , no universe entertaining . I cannot get through it. What is with the talking hands ? I use my hands less with sign language.

    • aegerprimo

      Puke A Go-Go

    • madame duran

      Hysterical laughing over something that truly isn’t funny and endless yakking instead of getting to the point is…annoying. If this is the type of mindless talent available, it would explain why SMP hasn’t produced anything (let alone anything of quality).

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I hoping that SMP doesn’t start broadcasting until after the November election. I can only take one sh#tshow at a time.

        • Graham

          I think you’re safe there.

    • Graham

      Moronic narcissist alert. I managed 1 min 50 secs.

  • Observer

    We had a weird sunset tonight–the only way I can describe it is that it looked like someone had partially erased it. I got pics, but since it’s my bedtime, I’ll download them from my camera and post a couple tomorrow.

    • Jimmy3

      Probably just the Moxons messing around in space again. Nothing to worry about.

    • The Mega Black Hole our Galaxy is inside of, had some temp extra turbulence today. That’s why.

      • aegerprimo

        Oh shit – I hope our front porch to infinity will stay intact.

      • Missionary Kid

        I don’t know if the Mega Black Hole is at Clearwater or Hollywood or an idel opening.

    • Missionary Kid

      The Perseid Meteor Shower is supposed to start sometime this week. The night of the 11-12th.is supposed to be the peak. Edited for corrections.

      • TheLurkingHorror

        Thanks, I’d forgotten about the Perseids.

  • Fink Jonas

    Look at the ugly buses the gesthapo church uses to carry the slaves back and forth to the Bridge publications in City of Commerce they really look lower than second class citizens, they look like a 3rd world country is picking up peple to gas them up, they don’t look like a millionaire church is using them now do they? By the way very few particular vehicles in the parking lot everybody else is on the bus, they can’t risk people running away after a long day of work tired, yelled and screamed.

    • Elegant Mess

      I saw one of the larger white busses from your 1st photograph driving up Fountain Avenue in Hollywood late one night last week. It was full of Sea Orgers looking very tired and I’m assuming were being bussed from Big Blue to the Anthony Building down the street. All the lights were on inside the bus, so I could see many pasty faces.

      • Fink Jonas

        Sometimes I see them come out and smoke in groups of 3 to 4 youngsters at the same time plus the one that wants to smoke alone they look very worrisome and serious all the time and there is always a guy watching not security but looks like a senior older guy always keeping watch from one of the back doors once they finish they all go in and the door is locked again, very sad thing to see knowing that many of them are disconected from loved ones.

        • Juicer77

          >Β·[

    • Graham

      Has anybody seen the bus that Slappy throws people under? It must be fecking enormous.

      • Juicer77

        Snortle!!

        • jazzlover

          O/T: You must be beaming with pride over Phelps? His accomplishments are pretty amazing.

          • Juicer77

            Honestly, I watched a few minutes of men’s gymnastics and women’s field hockey last night. Not a huge Olympic watcher.
            But yeah, that’s our hometown kid! πŸ˜‰

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, my sis and bro-in-law (who have lived in Columbia for decades) are all ga-ga over him πŸ™‚

  • Steve Bazemore

    When I first heard of Louis Theroux’s film, I decided to YouTube him. I subsequently spent the following 3 days or do watching every doc I could find of his on YouTube and I consider myself a huge fan. I am anxiously awaiting a US release.

    On another topic, I was randomly wondering, do any scilons post here and argue with any posters… I mean people who are overtly, admitted scilons, not people assumed to be for this reason or that.

    • Lucille Austero

      Steve, we wait and wait, on our Front Porch to Infinity. We have delicious snacks and everything. We would love to talk body thetans and poor dental care! πŸ‘½πŸ‘½πŸ‘½

    • Franklin Adams

      Yeah occasionally some do. We’re not a safe space for them though so they don’t usually stick around that long. Or they step seriously out of line and Tony or Scott bring down the banhammer. We also have the OSA goon squads, but they don’t say anything, they just play pretend spy. That or I never see them.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        They always have at least one Sea Orgyist monitoring this site, just in case there’s a pig shit plan being fomented. But the entheta spewing forth from here is Chernobyl-strength, so they have to spell each other in 15 minute shifts.

        “Confront and shatter” as a motto for these young and (literally) hungry OSA pinheads has given way to “confront and splatter” as they realize that the internet has become a many-armed Shiva-like God bent on their total destruction.

        Night, night baby OSA goons, the internet never sleeps, but I bet you sure would like to get some;)

  • Vaquera

    Lilly King. Talked the talk and swam the walk.

    • aegerprimo

      Lilly King?

    • outraged

      time out for a rant:

      I am SICK AND TIRED of NBC’ coverage.
      We see ONLY the americans.
      The announcers talk all the FUCKING time.
      Hardly ANY EVENTS
      Fluff and fluff and seconds to watch one or two teams dive or swim.
      Is this the Summer Olympics or NBC Narcissism Hour?

      Lily Rocks. So does Katie. Simone is over the moon. Love Serena.
      And the two British boys got the Bronze!!!

      • ReallyMGM

        The NBC app has everything and replays. And Brit announcers for much of it.

  • Jo

    These pic’s with trophy’s make’s me feel sad and angry, want to shake the world and say, wake the fuck up.

    • daisy

      Whales I have trouble feeling sorry for .( I know that wasn’t your point ) In fact I quite like that Cardone spends his money . I just want to be around when the whole thing implodes on the big beings.

  • That’s a lot of future Garcias. Over and out.

  • Snippy_X

    How it works. Not really off-topic at all.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bq2_wSsDwkQ

    • daisy

      I am just discovering this man. He is soooo great. He is on Stephen Colbert tonight ( it may be a rerun ) I love it when the hosts looks like he is having more fun than the audience.

      • jazzlover

        I think it is a re-run. He’s hilarious, and provides a much needed “journalistic bitch-slap” to those entities/people most in need. And he does it in a cheerful British sort of way, which neither Bill Maher nor Jon Stewart were capable of doing.

        • daisy

          There was an interesting article about the *John Oliver * effect google it . Yes his sarcasm is just as rich , but more palatable , for me at least. AND he explains.

          • jazzlover

            It’s the huge smile on his face, I tell ya. There is absolutely nothing like being told to fuck off in that way. His sense of irony is his greatest weapon. If you don’t have HBO, you can go back and watch many (most) of his past episodes on the Last Week Tonight youtube channel. Maher’s glum and Stewart was angry. Totally different approaches. Ironically, Oliver made his hay in the US working for Stewart.

            • daisy

              I think I have seen everything of his now. , including old daily shows. His shows on Canada left me unable to breath they were so funny.( and true ) He is also balanced His accents are priceless. I think it was a pos here that got me to watch him. Seth Myer is the best of the daily night crew.

            • jazzlover

              I’ve been wishing that he’d do a scientology throwdown πŸ™‚

            • daisy

              In one show he said – If you want to throw money at a fake religion , join scientology. Yes a whole show devoted would be great, just unlikely.

            • jazzlover

              You’re probably right. But, if he were to do it, he’s got HBO behind him. They’re no strangers to that game since “Going Clear”.

            • Missionary Kid

              His topics are bigger than $cientology, but he gets his licks in.

            • jazzlover

              You’re right. The one about “zombie credit” was particularly noteworthy and relevant.

      • Missionary Kid

        John Oliver was first on the Daily Show as a “correspondent”, then he replaced Jon Stewart when Jon took time off to make a documentary, then got his own show ON HBO, where he’s got a lot more freedom. Since I don’t have HBO, I can’t wait until John’s show hits Youtube.

        Jon Stuart has been incredibly generous with the people who worked with him, and they’re all grateful to him. Steven Colbert, Samantha Bee, and Rob Cordray are only some of the people who’ve gone on to bigger and better things. The people who showed up for Jon’s last Daily Show were phenomenal, and they all love him. The show ended almost like a reprise of the last Mary Tyler Moore episode with a huge group hug. Jon never held anyone back.

        • daisy

          Yes , I am he has been generous. I watched an interview where he thought David Letterman was generous to him and other comics and he wanted to emulate that. I liked his show for a while and then stopped, so I didn’t see John Oliver. Thank goodness for U-tube I am catching up on his bits. I caught the group hug.

          • Missionary Kid

            Trump has been god’s gift to comics. Most of his supporters are probably not fans of Oliver, but younger people are. The times they are a-changin’.

            • daisy

              He doesn’t choose sides as far as I can tell. He seems to pick issues. They seem leftist because presently they are being laughable . They would get more out of life if they learned to laugh at themselves. John has spent a lot of time making fun of himself.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      TRONC has been Wised.

      • jazzlover

        Is that true?

        Oliver last night – “Tronc sounds like the sound an elephant makes while having an orgasm”. LOL

      • Snippy_X

        You mean as in WISE wised?

  • PerpetualOutflow

    So glad to see Tony is recording the audio book for TUML! And perhaps his recent travels may mean there are more surprises to come?

  • Aslan’s Own

    Seeing them use Purple Heart veterans to further their anti-psychiatric agenda when an average of 22 vets per day take their own lives makes me want to scream.

    To stop thinking about it I went over to JAW’s twitter feed, which is always fun. I saw this tweet to Carrie of “Oh No Ross and Carrie” fame. Curious about why he was tweeting her, I went over to her feed & the only thing remotely psychiatric was a long thread with 2 other people about a supposed case where suicidal threats were found to be domestic abuse, which she doubted was accurate.

    JAW wasn’t involved in any of her tweets but he must have read them for him to suddenly ask her that question. He obviously knows she and Ross investigate various groups on their show. I’m assuming that he’s very aware of their scientology show and follows her. I can’t wait to see if she responds. She’ll see he’s a scientologist, but I wonder if she knows the depth of his delusion… If not, she’ll find out!

    • Baby

      It absolutely makes me sick..Pie Lion..

      STAY AWAY FROM OUR VETERANS ASSHOLES..

      Yes he is delusional.. and creepy..

      • Aslan’s Own

        I know. Vets are fighting to get the healthcare they need and appropriate treatment, and here the COS says they’re going to “honor” them by encouraging them NOT to take what may very well be medication that will save their lives. They really know how to honor people.

        • Baby

          Ugh.. I hate Scientology..

          • Aslan’s Own

            Amen.

    • Graham

      He should be tweeting SMP and asking them to do an investigation. It would seem that SMP needs some program suggestions as they haven’t managed to broadcast anything yet, two months after opening.

      • Baby

        PREACH…f5

      • Aslan’s Own

        Ha! Good idea! He was certainly very vocal about how wonderful it was when it opened. In fact, if I remember correctly he and his girlfriend came to LA for the opening. I haven’t looked at his feed since then. I can only take him in very small doses before I want to pull my hair out.

      • Aslan’s Own

        I just had to search out your comment — for some weird reason I looked at JAW’s feed again. Some guy complained about scientology advertising on twitter and JAW just couldn’t help boasting about SMP!

        • Graham

          He seems content to boast about the SMP TV channel whilst knowing perfectly well that it doesn’t broadcast anything!

          • Aslan’s Own

            Why would he let a silly little thing like the truth stand in his way?? πŸ˜‰

            • Graham

              Hope you don’t mind; I’ve re-posted JAW’s tweet on today’s post [have credited you].

            • Aslan’s Own

              Not at all! Hopefully lots of J & D!!

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Just finished my Australian census form online.
    It’s strange that the world’s fastest growing religion wasn’t even on the list. πŸ˜€

    • EnthralledObserver

      What will they have to choose? “Other”? (I haven’t done mine yet, I’m waiting for a paper form, as my little personal protest about not having the option to do it anonymously online.)

      • TheMirrorThetan

        Yes they will have to choose other and then specify.
        But It will only affect the 5 Scientologists left in Australia, anyway. πŸ™‚

        • EnthralledObserver

          Okay, I see… so they still get to say ‘$cientologist’.
          Cheers.

    • Baby

      GIMMMMMMMMMIE DAT KITTEH.. awwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwww OOOPS not as cute as Pookey of course.. f5

      • TheMirrorThetan

        I want the Popcorn Kitteh. He is cute with his smooshed up face.

        • Graham

          I don’t care how cute he is. If he’s eaten all my popcorn [or pooped in it] he’s in BIG trouble.

          • Baby

            hahahha I am watching you Graham..

        • Baby

          Well he is yours..( We love our kittehs, eh?)

  • OOkpik

    Scientology exploiting veterans! But, of course! There is no level to which they will not stoop.
    Remember this? f5

    • Aslan’s Own

      I must have missed that one. Disgusting.

    • Baby

      f5

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Prisoners work with Greyhounds Sorry OT

    https://vimeo.com/93761027

    • TheMirrorThetan

      The 2 three legged ones playing with a toy are so cute.

    • Juicer77

      “Ruumate wanted.” LOL! Our local greyhound rescue has an annual reunion and a Roo-Along every year. Hilarious!

    • Baby

      So heart warming Todd.. Music is beautiful… You have all these bad asses being so gentle and loving with these precious dogs..

      Yet asshole Michael Vick stated.. ” I didn’t know dogs could feel pain..” I am not forgiving him. He showed up at the Cowboy’s football camp and tweeted it…and the coach said.. ” Ain’t gonna be a fit . Don’t believe everything you see on Twitter..”

      You continue to be my hero with your Greyhound rescue honey.. xoxo love baby.. Gorgeous dogs..

      That music is killing me.. ( Let her go..) PS Dogs are NEVER off topic.. ( any pet actually)

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Thanks they give back so much more than they ever know.

  • OOkpik

    Good morning, friends.

    Every day is Cat Day.

    • i need to go to the optician!

    • Ann B Watson

      Hi OOpik, Thank you because your kitty made my morning.Reminds me of all the ones I’ve had.Wait a minute your icon is an owl,I see this makes your comment very interesting because you might have been talking breakfast.XO

    • Baby

      Absolutely gorgeous OWL.. wow.. My favorite colors in the world..

      Did you happen to paint this and you are being humble.. ?

      • OOkpik

        I wish!
        I love it and thought of you when I saw it. Like your art, which I adore, it is so cheerful, vibrant and intriguing. ((hugs))

        • Baby

          Awwwwwwwwwwwwww so sweet of you.. ( OK.. you are going to laugh when I make this most humble statement..)

          It reminded me of my art too..bawwwwwwwwwhahhahahaha

          Thanks sweetheart..xo

  • Someone tell me… he he… This John Alex Wood “JAW” is he a Freelancer Scio? or who the hell is he?

    • Graham

      There’s plenty on the ‘net if you google for him. His surname relates to KENWOOD so presumably he’s living comfortably off an inheritance. He’s like an eager little terrier dog; but sadly for him, toothless.

      https://whyweprotest.net/threads/john-alex-wood-his-biological-father-leonard-berney-is-involved-in-investment-scam.79300/

    • He’s a English Scientologist who has set himself up as the social media voice of Scientology.

      He is constantly putting out positive tweets, and has a blog which presents a warped, propagandist, view of Scientology’s activities worldwide (including the front groups CCHR, Narconon and Criminon) http://www.johnalexwood.com/

      He must have some official sanction. His blog reports that, while in LA he gave a talk about social media to the Celebrity Centre. I don’t know how seriously you can take this, but he is a Scientologist, and he gets away with using a lot of Scientology material online.

      He sees himself as some kind of social media expert and is very smug about this. Unfortunately for Scientology, he’s the best they have.

      One day, he might overreach himself and say something that inadvertently gets him into ‘ethics’ trouble, or just become too popular with his peers, and be taken down by internal politics.

      In the meantime he manages to be unconvincing and irritating. People (especially the young) have generally become too sophisticated today about media messages to take his propagandist ‘everything is perfect always’ approach seriously.

      • Graham

        I see he was born in Plymouth!

        • We don’t mention that around here.. in fact, I’m probably the only resident who has heard of him at all.

      • Woooowa I will mail you! Just perfect!

      • Aslan’s Own

        I know he used to be president of Narconon in the UK, and I think I read somewhere that he’s OSA but I could be completely wrong about that last one. It seems like his main job must be to do the social media because he seems to tweet constantly and seems to find every tweet that has anything to do with scientology and reply to it – calling someone a bigot, warning them of the dangers of psych meds, etc. It’s really fun when he finds a sarcastic tweet about scientology and retweets it not realizing it’s sarcasm.

        During the whole Ron Miscavige social media smear campaign, JAW tweeted the same nasty things that the official feed and the fake “Ron Miscavige” feed did — the handwritten confessionals, copies of police reports, etc. Maybe that’s why I felt like he was acting in an official capacity for COS.

        • Whatever his official position, he has placed himself in a potentially dangerous position. One day, he will say something ambiguous… and drop himself in it – or garner too much praise.

          He’s too much of a true believer to stand up to a ethics backlash. I wonder if, one day, he’s not going fall out of favour and disappear from the online world.

          • Aslan’s Own

            Garnering too much praise is deadly should you come to the attention of a malignant narcissist.

            • And internal politics rarely supports someone who stands out, either.

  • Juicer77

    Please, please tell me there will be Miss Lovely audio outtakes for us to enjoy! XD

  • Tory Christman

    Officer Norman is a “patrollman” with his nails done, or
    Do we call the patrol ladies, patrollman, too?
    Also, looks like he/she has on a McD- t-shiet, right? Just curious.
    Thanks, Tony! This article shows more than
    Ever why we *must* get critical info up in other languages.
    If anyone speaks Spanish….to start w/ couldn’t we get
    Your site up in Spanish, Tony? πŸ™‚ love to you ALL!!

    • Baby

      Hi Tory.. I always love seeing you! I agree with your comment 100%. xoxox baby Refresh..

    • The lady in the picture is not Tommy Norman, but a young woman appearing in his video receiving Scientology propaganda from him.

  • Rhine

    To bad for that Dr Berg. I like listening to his videos on YouTube. Ive learned a lot from him.
    Though I suspected he was a scientologist when he talked about the body being stupid and also, in one video he mentions being able to hook you up to a device that measures your stress level.
    Tooooo bad. Theres also another guy Frank Suarez who is in the weight loss business who has his own video saying the body is stupid. Oh well, that good old scientology gibberish; those folks really believe it all and literally.
    What a waste, giving it all to DM!!!!