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Leah Remini is shooting a TV series about Scientology

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We figure it’s about time that we revealed what we’ve known for some time about upcoming television projects that feature Scientology, because it’s getting really interesting.

We’ve known for more than a year that a television series about Scientology’s disconnection policy has been in production, and that it has run into pushback by the church. (You may remember an earlier story about Karen de la Carriere receiving a threat letter from Scientology, even though she’s not involved in the production of the series.) We actually know quite a bit about this series, but we’ve done a little consulting work for the company producing it, and we’re not at liberty to tell you much about it.

But what’s especially exciting for Scientology watchers is that the same network is also developing another series, also about the way Scientology rips apart families, and this one is being produced by former Scientology celebrity Leah Remini. We broke the news in 2013 that Leah ditched Scientology, which she had grown up in. The King of Queens actress came out with a bestselling memoir last November, Troublemaker, with juicy anecdotes about what it was like to be a celebrity in a celebrity-obsessed church.

These are two completely separate projects, and as far as we know they are tackling similar subjects but with different sets of people. We’ve confirmed that Leah’s series is currently shooting footage, and appears to be on a fast track. Could we see both series this coming fall? We really don’t know if that’s going to be the case or not.

We’re really looking forward to seeing both of these shows.

 
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At Maiden Voyage, Scientology reveals the depths of its desperation

The T-shirts weren’t lying. David Miscavige really is trying to stem Scientology’s decline by marketing it with the slogan that it’s the world’s “coolest religion.”

And here’s proof! Just check out how cool the stage act was at a Maiden Voyage event this week…

 

 
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Mark Bunker and this weekend’s ribbon-cutting

Here’s Mark’s video from Saturday’s misadventures!

 

 
Whoops. Bunker put this video together for us to give some background on the West Coast Building — it features Jesse Prince in 2000 talking about his years there — but we were traveling yesterday and it got lost in the shuffle. Give it a look…

 

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on June 27, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback and Kindle editions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Just so I understand this, after it was reported here that the event would take place at 1:00pm, it was moved up to earlier in the day overnight?

    I do believe Bunker Powers have surpassed OT Powers.

    • Jimmy3

      Isn’t the sea org supposed to be there early?

    • Chee Chalker

      Yes, which meant COB had to get up before noon….that must have been a shock to his tiny system

      • Dr_Orpheus

        Part of being a true BIG BEING is the willingness to make huge sacrifices for the GREATER GOOD.

    • pluvo

      It was probably earlier because of the weather, IIRC sb mentioned the weather forecast was that it was going to rain. Can’t imagine the event being earlier because it was reported here.

    • DoveAlexa

      Mighty though he is, I feel sad and worried that he’s wandering over there all the time on his own. I wanna follow him with a cooler of water and an umbrella at the very least.
      What would a sea ogre do if you tried to give them icecream?

  • I’m gonna see if $cientology will go for a game show I have in mind. It’s not a far commute to their new studio, I wouldn’t mind. Jenna Elfman could be my second rotten banana. It’s called Wheel of Misfortune.

    • Liberated

      Please do not involve any horses—please.

    • The name is too close to their other show: Steal of Fortune

    • Missionary Kid

      Elfbrain trying to show intellectual abilities: pure comedy gold.

  • sundaygirl

    Scientology commercial ran this morning, about 6:30 a.m., on a local channel. Seems to be about a monthly occurrence now – running a generic ad at strange times. Doesn’t seem to be attracting anyone though. The local “church” serves a tri-state area, but maybe has about five cars in the parking lot daily and rarely a lone person standing outside smoking.

    • Missionary Kid

      In spite of the fact that they can afford the higher broadcast rates that would also get them more viewers at other times, $cientology cheaps out.

      Maybe they’re after the lonely that are up early because they’ve been subjected to some emotional upset and are looking for answers.

  • flyonthewall

    I like how they had Sea Borg standing at 6ft intervals or whatever it was along the sidewalk Mark was walking. It shouldn’t by now but it still amazes that not one of them is like, “This is dumb, I’m going home.”

    • Observer

      I dunno–if your home was a smelly, filthy, overcrowded barracks, standing outside in the blistering heat might be preferable.

      • flyonthewall

        you think they consider barracks “home”? I feel sorry for them if they do

        • Observer

          It’s all they’ve got, I think. Like in the Divergent movies, “faction before blood.”

          • flyonthewall

            that looks worth a watch, thnx. Or like in Finding Dory, “Just keep swimming, just keep swimming, swimming swimming”

    • It’s not dumb to them. They are protecting the universe from destruction by the videographers of the world.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Very surprised they didn’t have at least one of the Sea bOrg pointing a camera in Mark’s face à la SuMP opening… missed a trick to look particularly stupid there… pity!

      • flyonthewall

        oh well when you put it like that…duh, what was i thinking

        • Right see just changed your viewpoint. You had a cognition. Now you can postulate better.

    • Bleuler

      Will be so good when one of them blowns and tells the inside perspective of how that day of “Golden Age of Standing” felt like. It will happen, soon Dave. And well J&D all over you again.

  • Yah! I found the “safe place where it won’t get lost” that I stuck the real time clock thing for my Raspberry Pi needed to make a portable WiFi enturbulation station.

    I’ll put instructions and a pre-configured disk image together.

    Now, let me just put this thing in a safe place for now…

  • CK

    “All I wanna say is that they don’t really care about us.”

  • pluvo

    So OSA, you have now a special Mark Bunker drill for the COB’s ribbon yanking ceremonies? So many people to defend from one Mark Bunker. Ridiculous.

    • flyonthewall

      reminds me of how in the Ross & Carrie podcast when they went to the Dianetics seminar. They counted at least 11 people present who were there in way or another to help facilitate R&C’s initiation and indoctrination. Minimum 2-11 wog to scientologist ratio at that function. Sad.

      • ze moo

        Sticking shills in the audience is a time honored Snake Oil tradition.

        • flyonthewall

          yes but in this case the entire audience were shills.

          eta – Whole thing is an absurd farce. Would be funny if they didn’t ruin lives and corrupt everything they touch

        • pluvo

          I meant the people who lined up at the sidewalk additionally to the PI etc.

          • ze moo

            I would expect those to be a ‘volunteer’ posse of stand ins. Perhaps working off some ‘steps A to E’?

            • pluvo

              I think most of them were staff.

  • George Layton

    scientology brought Michael Jackson back!

  • nottrue

    Scientology Pizza Nazi = No slice for You …. Thank you ScreamNevermore .. https://twitter.com/ScreamNevermore/status/747454562546651136

    • Jon S

      Waaaaaaaaaaaaah. What a find. Well done.

    • Tweets like that should include this addy @CPizzeria

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Ah, Donato Loi also has a website where he extols the virtues of CoS. http://www.our-home.org/donatoloi/ – says he came from Italy – same guy I think?

  • Jgg2012

    “it’s the world’s “coolest religion” Are they opening an org in Antarctica?

    • CK

      *rimshot*

  • Observer

    My swirly bokeh lens has arrived! Squeeeeeee!

    • Rasha

      Oooooooo!!!!! Pics of it and through it, plskthx!!!

      • Observer

        After work…

  • CK

    Is this another TLC deal? I hadn’t actually seen Ms. Remini’s first doc.

  • I know where Mark’s pizza went… (refresh with freshly chopped basil):

    • Roger Hornaday

      This is the world scientology would give us.

    • Sir Derf

      Wow, look at these right wing Nazi mother fucking fascist pigs, these NRA assholes are cute, huh?

      • Glen

        Way over the top, me thinks.

  • I really hope the production companies and/or networks don’t cave to Scientology before these air. That’s always my greatest concern when I hear about stuff like this.

    • Missionary Kid

      Agreed. I’m going to remind people that you said that Leah was the one celebrity who treated you well as a sea org. I can only wish her the best now that she’s out.

  • Sir Derf

    Well, that’s going to make a dwarf shit his pants!

    I’d hate to be one of the insane crook’s few remaining ringleaders anywhere within fisting range until the drugs and alcohol put the dwarf in to his normal daily coma.

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      But wait! There’s more…
      Much, much more…
      … We haven’t even had the general release of Louis Theroux’s ‘My Scientology Movie’ and pretty much everyone I spoke to in Cleveland had either heard of, or (in the majority of cases) seen Going Clear. The word is spreading faster and faster… the Drunken Mismanager must be getting through underoos like they grow on trees!

      • Bleuler

        Does his anger level out at some point you think, like some form of acceptance or each new footbullet and/or exposé adds new fuel to the dwarfish fury?

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Perhaps we ought to run an informal and highly unethical real-time psychological experiment on the extreme anger levels one specific human being (Hi there, Davy M!) can tolerate before having a massive aneurism, brought on by many years of smoking filterless Camels and drinking far, far too much for good health. Some collateral damage is expected (of the poor souls on the SRA receiving end), which is why I have a problem with the experiment on a moral level.
          The midget deserves it, though.

          • Beth

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Yes 🙂 (definite laugh ETA: with a distinct hint of muahaha at the beginning–like bwa, but slightly more evil… 😉 )

            • Beth

              🙂
              (ETA: 80’s reference in celebration of today’s post)

      • Sir Derf

        Oh yeah! Sucks to be a filthy crook in the age of the Internet. Er, actually the violent clown has hundreds of millions of dollars squirreled away like a typical filthy crook, so he’s not hurting. 🙂

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          I know, I know… sometimes you have to dream…I dream of a very small cell for a very small pope… with a very large cellmate……if the IRS can get the political will behind them to pull their thumbs out of their… nevermind… after all, they were the ones that got Al Capone in the end!

      • K2P2(KnitNut)

        Hi! you have a new Avi. Looks like Monkey put on a little weight since Cleveland. 🙂

        • Missionary Kid

          The food was good.

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Just an extreme close-up of the old one… felt it was time for a change :)(also twitter {unused!} avi)

  • nottrue

    You should have told her where Shelly was….

    • BosonStark

      Ain’t that the truth. They could have told Leah an elaborate acceptable truth. David and Shelly had some disagreements and decided they no longer wanted to live together. Shelly wanted some isolation and years to think. For the sake of the image of the Church, they thought separation was better than divorce.

      Problem is, if they told Leah that, she still might have wanted to talk to Shelly and they refused to let her do that.

      • Dr_Orpheus

        According to Troublemaker, after a long runaround, she was eventually told that Shelly was avoiding process servers working for lawyers attempting to destroy Scientology. Maybe, if she had heard that excuse from the start, but I guess Dave Dastardly was too accustomed to being surrounded by flunkies to consider that he might need an excuse for a disappeared wife.

      • Chewkacca

        Leah asked for one phone call to, or from, Shelly. “Hi Leah, it’s me, Shelly. I’m OK, just working hard”. EASY. Except it didn’t happen. And why not? Because Shelly has figured out what we Bunkerites have known for a long time: DM is a waste discharge orifice. Shelly is no longer cooperating, and won’t tell a “shore story”. She wants OUT! DM can’t let her talk to anyone except her jailers, and maybe not even them. WAROOOOOOOOOOGH!!!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Poor “irrelevant” Jason Bateman. Now “millions” of clams think he is a bigot. HA! Apparently no part of LRH’s tech explains the difference between an actor and a character he portrays in a movie! SMH
    (refresh)

    • Supper Powers

      Is it delusional or willful lyng when a public Scientologist says there are millions?

      • Wogalistic

        Krustie probably told her

    • Wogalistic

      Well they do seem to believe the “straight up and vertical 47X expansion” is real so why expect any rational thought now?

    • Observer

      Sad, sad, sad.

    • edge

      Millions! Millions of Scientologists!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Much koolaid has this one drunk.

      • BosonStark

        I was hoping Scientologists would notice and get excited about it, and think about it. It makes for good publicity for the movie. The more Scientologists think and discuss this, the more they will see that not everyone in Hollywood respects Scientology just because Tom Cruise is one.

        The movie is kind of weak in some respects, but the offbeat comedy writing and performances by the lead actors are very good. It’s about all sorts of male insecurities, as reflected in the funny bromance of the two leads. Bateman’s short scene is funny, and he reprises his role as a psycho, but a comic version.

        Even with the bad press he got, blowing up on set a few years ago, this role will help his reputation. No matter what he’s like in real life, he’s a versatile actor. Now is Scientology going on a witch hunt to find which of the three writers wrote his lines about Scientology?

    • BosonStark

      Jason Bateman’s few lines about Scientology were wry and hilarious. It was the best short Scientology bit I’ve seen in a comedy. It could have been improved if he said body thetans, instead of thetans, but it was still funny. I think the clam is right about not a lot of people laughing. It was subtle, unexpected and I laughed out loud. But I don’t think it was meant to draw huge laughter. Instead, it was meant to portray a totally self-absorbed person, as many Scientologists are. They are too self-absorbed and absurdly reverent of Dr. Hubtard that they can’t take a joke about their goofy and abusive space cult. Instead they demand total respect of the whole money-sucking scam.

      I thought a lot about the three lines. I chuckled at the thought of what Scientologists would make of them, and how it would just go over most people’s heads. Even some Scientologists might just think, what? They wouldn’t get it. I’m glad this woman did! However, I think the line was inserted by a writer who wanted to take a dig at Scientology, and how Scientologists think Scientology so superior to other religions, since as we know, Hubbard taught that other religions are implants, and that wogs are clueless.

      I’d explain the situation and the lines Bateman said but I don’t want to spoil it for anyone. I guess it’s possible Bateman improvised or wrote his own lines but I doubt it. So why would this woman hold him responsible? He’s just an actor doing his lines. Scientology has entered pop culture as a joke.

    • Justmeteehee

      The scene in the movie was hilarious, also loved Batemans take on TC’s black turtle neck vid… Google it! Bateman is a good SP!

    • Illinoisian

      The wording of this reminds me very much of the script of the Ruthie Heyerdahl video. Almost sounds like it was written by the same person. Chris Shelton shows it (Heyerdahl) and talks about it starting at 17:30 in this episode, “Scientology Is Coming Apart at the Seams.”
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BtpvcIsaB88

    • Missionary Kid

      That Kool-Aid drinker totally ignores that they belong to a bullying organization that hires private investigators and files all sorts of lawsuits simply for the purpose of intimidating anyone who criticizes or leaves $cientology.

  • Flying High

    And Leah reminds us to Be Grateful today [for her upcoming series on $cientology and for the ‘Call Me’ Billboard that is going up shortly in Clearwater!]

  • Supper Powers

    http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/leah-remini-scientology-tv-series-pics/
    I appreciate that Radar acknowledges Tony as their source unlike other publications as of late.

    • Andrew Robertson

      Nicole Remini-Wiskow seems no less determined and assertive than her sister! Maybe Scientology’s ‘confront and shatter supression’ training only works after you leave and become an apostate.

      An unintended benefit of Dr Haddock’s mastery of the human mind!

      Andrew

    • JaxNGold

      Thanks for the link. Looks like someone is impersonating $cientology apologist In Fine Fettle in the comment section.

      • Supper Powers

        Release the flying monkeys!

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          *evil little grin attached to face of cherubic innocence*Sorry I’m late… In Fine Fettle is where, you say?*rubs hands with glee whilst laughing evilly*Monkey got something written by someone to show her…
          ETA: That can’t be the “In Fine Fettle” I remember…

          • Supper Powers

            I know! What’s up with that?!

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              God! Please, no! They can’t be learning how to be nice online…*head explodes with the disappointing ‘phut’ of a slightly underinflated large balloon*

  • Simi Valley

    People of El Lay: Fred/JennyAtLAX posted this on his blog re his upcoming hearing:

    I would love support in the courtroom: Hearing Date: Friday, July 15, 2016, 8:30 AM, 111 N. Hill St., Los Angeles, Dept. 2C, Room 243.

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    I’m getting ready for Leah’s new TV series:

    http://www.swansonvitamins.com/blog/jenessa/diy-popcorn-seasonings

  • nottrue
  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Glad to see that candidate Nora Espinoza’s CO$ connections are getting some attention.

    “SOS candidate says she walks ‘hand in hand’ with Scientology group” http://nmpoliticalreport.com/54313/sos-candidate-says-she-walks-hand-in-hand-with-scientology-group/

    “Love you guys!”: Nora Espinoza in Scientology video for group blaming 9/11 on psychologists” https://progressivechampions.com/2016/06/27/love-you-guys-nora-espinoza-in-scientology-video-for-group-blaming-911-on-psychologists/
    (refresh)

    • Observer

      It looks like she’s unhinging her jaw to swallow someone whole

      • Spit water on monitor. Thanks for that.

        • Observer

          Anytime!

      • Here you go

    • JaxNGold

      Blaming 9/11 on psychologists? Oh for f***’s sake. I’ve heard it all now.

      • Didn’t you know that Osama bin Laden’s 2nd-hand man was an evil psych?

        No, me neither. It’s one of the factoids they keep repeating no matter how many times it’s pointed out that he wasn’t.

        • Supper Powers

          I put an article up top for you.

    • Love her Quentin Crisp meets Lovey Howell in Santa Fe look. So chic . . .

      • 9000 internets for the Quentin Crisp reference.
        Reminds me to go back and watch John Hurt’s portrayal of him in “The Naked Civil Servant”
        There has been no better actor than John Hurt.

      • Kestrel

        I have no internets to give, but thanks for the “Gilligan’s Island” reference.

        • And thanks for clarifying that reference.

          • Kestrel

            You take the high-brow road, and I’ll come up with pop references from the past.

      • Stephanie Loving

        Natalie Schafer!! She DOES look like her … Lovey! So New Mexican voters voted her in? Did they know she was a koolaid drinker when they did? Or did that come out later?

    • Thanks for this, it is fresh off the presses.
      Hope it gets some legs.

    • wait

    • Baby

      WTH woman…f5

  • Glen

    Here’s my latest Yelp review. I think of MB as a friend.

    “I have a friend who was refused service there because a Scientology security guard came in and told the owner not to serve him. The owner denied this was the case, instead saying, all of sudden at 1:30 in the afternoon, that the pizzeria had now run out of pizza. This blatant discrimination should be more than the subject of a Yelp review, it should be a legal matter.”

    • flyonthewall

      he wasn’t discriminating against Mark. He was discriminating against the thousands of BT’s Mark was infested with.

      • Glen

        “I’ll have that BT pizza to go.”

        • edge

          “Would you like some Basics to go with your pizza?”

          • flyonthewall

            “No thanks just the pizza”

            “Ok, that’ll be 12 sets of Basics and 1 large pizza, got it!”

            • “I’ll just need your credit card and PIN code.”

            • Supper Powers

              Get his mother’s maiden name while you’re at it.

            • Baby

              and your Grandmother’s Nursing Home.

            • Supper Powers

              Bah! Yes! You funny, funny lady!

            • Baby

              You guys are easy to entertain ! ha

            • Supper Powers

              True dat!

        • flyonthewall

          he could of just made Mark go around back and pick up his pizza at the back door then leave his money under a brick. That’s what any decent Segretologist would have done.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            … maybe his [cctv security cameras gets] sec-checked?[Edit]

    • beauty for ashes

      As Wendy Williams, says well maybe not a friend, but a *friend in my head.*

  • TexasBroad

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?feature=youtu.be&v=85_QilaLXio
    Yay!!!! Oh No Ross and Carrie won the 2016 Podcast Awards!!!!!!

    • JaxNGold

      Nice!

    • Snippy_X

      Cheers for Ross and Carrie. Well deserved.

    • daisy

      Ross looks like a cross of David Ducovney and the guy down the street who sells pot . That is a complement. Yeah an congratulations .

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Yay! I voted every day!

  • ze moo

    Well, the littlest Führer ‘opened’ 2 administration buildings in Clearwater and earlier this year ‘opened’ one next to Tainted Hill in the UK. Thus begins the Golden Age of Administration Ka-ka. Or as it will be known in Clam circles, ‘GAAK’.

    It takes a lot of work to screw blinders on all the remaining clams, and you have to tighten those screws all the time. The GAAK offices will do their part to KSW. And to keep any available cash flowing into the fundraising campaign of the moment. And to keep adulation and birthday presents flowing to him who guides us all from his lofty perch. DM want a cracker?

    With all the new admin workers being added, who is going to get the new meat in the door? Video kiosks aren’t going to do that job. Adding more and more layers of admin is just adding more cost to the balance sheet. It hastens the financial death of the clampire.

    So why do it? DM is crafty, no not in a Hobby Lobby type of way, DM can’t quilt to save his or anyone elses life. No, he has hit upon the only way to save $cientology. He is going have every clam ‘working’ in some ‘ecclesiastical’ chirch job and have them sign ‘vows of poverty’. That way he can legally take any accumulated property or bank accounts of the minions when they die. Just like what DM did to Lron ‘fortune’ when he died.

    This way the scam can take what is left of memberships money and keep funding the scam. It will be like North Korea meets the Stasi and have a love child. Except there will be no love. Just ‘put your nose back on the grindstone’ and KSW. What could go wrong? F5

  • daisy

    Oh those crazy scientologists kids , they have invented some new fangled dance and one of them even played a guitar solo. I didn’t even know that was a thing . Is that a thing?

    • jazzlover

      Yes, yes it is a thing. Apparently goofy guitar solo dancing was originated by Chick in the 80s. Get a load of the geetarist and that creepy look in his eyes here:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sSJYlfHjrTE

      • daisy

        I watched as much as I could. My brain was still focusing on whether planetary and clearance were synonymous with each other let alone 2 other words. Silly me, rookie mistake trying to understand pus in an unlanced boil.

      • fml, i know that gueetar creeper (not well, but… ) further cementing my 1° of Scientology separation. he wasn’t even the guy that played the actual track but for some reason they snuck him into the vid.

        • jazzlover

          According to wiki, Carlos Rios played on that track. The other guitarist on the album was Scott Henderson. So I’m guessing that’s him? Australian Frank Gambale came later, and did get into scientology. Don’t know if he’s still in, but based on the fact that he’s the current RTF guitarist (replacing DiMeola), I’d guess he is.

          • yes, that’s Scott

            • jazzlover

              He looks a little too “happy” 🙂 Did you get a load of the 80s coiffs on Weckl and Pattitucci?

            • i had the same ‘do as Weckl at the time but in my defense was only a sophomore in HS so please cut me some slack. Patitucci’s coffee table has WAY too many strings. his XXL Sonny Crockett sport coat is pretty sweet, tho.

            • jazzlover

              I’ll give some slack, but only because you prob have more soul than Weckl ever had 😉 The guy can play but he’s as sterile as a eunuch during mating season. Pattitucci’s pretty much moved on to double bass exclusively, so he doesn’t get ragged on as much as he used to 🙂

            • Wogalistic

              Yes, while I would of liked such in college, it is a bit lifeless and even annoying. I think Dave did finally get a bit better…but you are still correct in regards to his “style”.

            • jazzlover

              I chuckle whenever I hear people rave about “chops”. Many musicians do have them, but they all can’t reach the listener and literally grab him/her and make him pay attention. Dave’s playing does very little for me (and oy, those freakin’ drum machines). I hear the same bullshit arguments about Buddy Rich ALL THE TIME. Fastest always means best in people’s minds.

            • Wogalistic

              Yes exactly, I can respect technical skill, but it’s about more than simple muscle memory. Time can breathe with a real drummer in a way that it can’t with a machine or a dave weckyl. Tell me Jean Luc didn’t become a clam as well (I saw his na med mentitled earlier).

            • jazzlover

              Not that I know of. But now that he’s associating with Jon Anderson and all his eastern philosophy, one can never be sure where a musician’s mind will wander 😉

      • Wogalistic

        Oye, there’s a few minutes I will never get back

        • jazzlover

          Just one of Corea’s off the rails periods. I had a few of those Elektric Band albums. They have been tossed 🙂 The guitarist in the 2nd iteration of that band, Australian Frank Gambale, did get dragged in into scientology. I don’t know if he’s still in.

      • ze moo

        When it comes to funky jazz bands, I like Spirogyra….just saying….

    • beauty for ashes

      I didn’t look because they looked like they had the classical stance of an Irish dancer. I was afraid they were going to appropriate Lord of the Dance too. **tee heee** Seriously I wouldn’t put it past them at this point!

    • No it is not a thing.
      Like extended solos of any kind.
      Thus, the Ramones doing a 4 minute version of an 11 minute song.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wanoXM90yHE

  • Supper Powers
    • Looks verra nice. I’ll read it in detail tonight.

  • Ms.P

    I noticed in Mark’s video that the pizza guy was wearing an OT8 bracelet, these can only be worn by OT8. You bet he was ordered by the guard not to service or speak to this ‘SP’. I was pleasantly surprised that he gave Mark water and for those of you ‘never in’, don’t think this was a normal gesture that any human should do. This guy showed compassion for a thirsty man but by doing this he WILL end up in ETHICS to explain his actions after he was TOLD not to communicate with an SP. I can only hope for people like him still in that he will soon run for the hills.

    • pluvo

      He hardly could say he is out of water knowing that he is getting filmed and then be seen as merciless.
      Compassion? Doubt it.

      • Ms.P

        Yikes you’re harsh. One can only hope, nevertheless he didn’t have to give him water.

        • pluvo

          No not harsh at all. I just know how SP’s are looked at by devoted members of the CoS, especially when they are in the league of Mark Bunker. I’m an ex and know which Hubbard references that pizza guy studied. Mark is not seen as a human as you would see it, but as an evil degraded being who is possessed by his reactive mind and has only evil purposes (I could go on but that would be really harsh, although true).

          • Ms.P

            I’m an ex also and have had tons of training and know what you’re referring to. My point was, although told what to do, the guy still chose to give Mark the water. This spoke volumes to me, I want to see some good, maybe I’m wrong.

            • pluvo

              You could be right too. Or he just could have thought it to be too silly to deny him the water. I don’t think he will end up in ethics. So far he handled it quite good regarding the PR, knowing he was filmed and was friendly.

      • 3feetback-of-COS

        Ethical dilemma.

        You know its hard out there for a clam.

    • flyonthewall

      he is the Mother Teresa of scientologists

      • beauty for ashes

        I don’t know why but I thought there shouldda been an f bomb in that. maybe cause I heard it with a Bronx accent voiced by Joe Pesci . Also lots of hand gestures.

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      As someone suggested earlier, he (OT8) may have been trying to get a nice set of Mark’s finger prints on that nice water glass. Glad Mark didn’t touch it.

      • Vaquera

        Hey Knit. Per our museum walk about and Modigliani, don’t forget to check with your library for the Midnight In Paris dvd.

        • K2P2(KnitNut)

          Hey Back! I did, I did. 🙂 We watched over the weekend. Thank you so much for recommending it. Loved every minute of it. The time travel with the famous was so good. I will watch it again. Hugs!

    • You are right. Giving water to a thirsty SP is a high crime.

  • Khalil

    What about psychiatry crimes ?

    • Observer

      If a psychiatrist commits a crime he or she is prosecuted and punished according to the laws of the land, unlike Scientology which lies, covers up its crimes, and/or claims it has the right commit crimes and human rights violations because of its religious cloaking.

      • Well said, but you can’t possibly enjoy talking to walls.

        • Observer

          I do like to take bottles’ temperatures though.

          • I have no idea what you mean, but its an intriguing statement.

    • flyonthewall

      did you get your $5 yet?

      eta – cuz I didn’t and I’m getting kind of pissed

    • You are either the worst troll in in the history of pro-Scietnology commenters or the best anti-Scientology commenter.

      • It would be the former, not the latter.

    • flyonthewall

      do you ever have nightmares about being chased by psychiatrists?

    • You have a brain disorder.
      You should see a psychiatrist.

      • flyonthewall

        no such thing as brain disorders, the brain is just a shock absorber, everybody knows that

        • Mine, or yours?
          My brain
          cool little cluster

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uAwfnkO-PhA

          • flyonthewall

            Nooooo!!! Not Mose Allison!!!!

            • I’m afraid so.

            • It was 40 years before I realized that the Yardbird’s “I’m Not Talkin'”, and the Who’s “Young Man”, and numerous others, were Mose tunes.
              “Look Here” by the Clash, continued the tradition of Brits’ appreciating American music more than Americans do.
              But, “I dig your molecular structure” is still the best pick-up line, second only to “You ain’t no circus girl, dump the clown.”
              At least they loved it in Parma.

    • flyonthewall

      if you see a tweed jacket with leather elbow patches and/or a smoking pipe do you lose control of your bowels? I bet that’s horrible.

      • I shit my pants on those occasions, but for different reasons.

      • Kay

        LOL

    • flyonthewall

      you know that half the people here are psychiatrists right? I’d be careful what you say if I was you

    • Five days ago you wrote:
      Hello everybody,
      I am a citizen who is arrested and tortured by psychiatrists. I am from another continent (a small country in north africa). I heard about scientology two years ago and I am happy to see scientology attacking psychiatry. Most people say that psychiatry is invincible, but I think if we join forces we can defeat psychiatry. How can I help to destroy psychiatry ?

      I have some questions.
      1. Psychiatrists can’t “arrest” people. Were other law enforcement authorities involved?
      2. Were you harming yourself or others?
      3. Were you threatening to harm yourself or others?

      • Is a “small country in Africa” even a thing? Every one of those countries is ginormous.

        • Mooser42001

          That is true. They may look small on a map, but they cover vast areas. I once told a cartographer he was getting the sizes all wrong, but he said “Oh, you’re just projecting.”

      • Qbird

        ah ha!

    • Psychiatry is a subject of study, like medicine. It is not an organization. Scientology is an organization that is unified by a management structure, and incorporated. “Psychiatry” cannot commit crimes. Individual psychiatrists can. As a corporate entity “Scientology” is a person and can therefore commit crimes.

      • Liberated

        You tell em Derek, btw–do you think this Khalil character is a troll? I do. I think he’s sci.
        I will not engage him.

        • I’m not sure. I just think it’s dumb when people start saying “psychiatry this”, “psychiatry that”. I’m going to start a “what about the crimes of biology” campaign. Or “theoretical physics is ruining the world”. Something like that. This anti-psychiatry stance is ridiculous.

        • Robert Eckert

          we do sometimes get garden-variety trolls, not OSA plants just the usual jerks of the Internet looking to stir up fights.

          • I tried to explain that once, but no one seems to care. Troll is a term that exists independent of OSA. I can be a troll myself sometimes, when I see people spouting hateful sentiment in a convo I like to derail it.

    • flyonthewall

      Khalil, is this you? f5

      • daisy

        If he would just smile, I could tell if he is Jethro my meth dealer.

        • flyonthewall

          daisy’s a tweeker!!

        • Scream Nevermore

          Daisy, I just spat ice cream over my screen because of you!!!

        • Daisy, you know I love you, right?
          But I must say, drugs are bad.

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            … mmm’kay!

    • flyonthewall

      These are not rhetorical questions I’m asking btw. I do expect a response

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Here… have some nuts…F5/Refresh

      • Now I’m hungry.
        But what about “monkey butt”?
        http://www.antimonkeybutt.com/

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          monkey clean–antimonkeybutt unrequired 🙂 (thanks for heads-up in case of time of need!)

    • Scream Nevermore

      What about idiots?

    • George Layton

      Yes, that is the practice of scientology. thanks for bringing that up.

    • Yeah, what about them?

    • Qbird

      Tell one you know of personally, please.
      Details, details.

      The devil is in the details.

      I got a good story. Something personal yet from afar.
      I’ll share that one with you if you share yours with me.
      We’ll compare notes… deal?

  • aegerprimo

    Yes Mark, it is amazing how the Church of Scientology controls Clearwater FL. The people made to stand along the sidewalk to prevent you from walking there because of the 10′ rule injunction, they changed the event time to make it so you would miss videoing it, the pizza guy ran out of pizza as soon as you walked in the door….

    The Church of Scientology SO PARANOID of one guy!

    Mark I respect your bravery and persistence.

    • No the pizza guy was going to serve him pizza. Then a Scientologist working as a security guard in the Sea Org came in, conversed with the owner of the shop and then the owner ran out of pizza. An important distinction.

      • aegerprimo

        Yes, a very important distinction.

        • He was informed who Mark was.
          If he had known, he would have refused service without being ordered to.
          Since he is OTVIII.
          Clear case of actionable religious discrimination, and Mark should see an attorney.

          • TexasBroad

            Interesting thought as to whether SPs can be considered a “class” which can be discriminated against — Mark wasn’t discriminated against because of his religious affiliation, but for his anti-scientology affiliation. Same thing? I defer to better minds.

            • It is religious discrimination, because he was denied service because he is NOT a Scientologist..
              Matters not, under the law, what HIS religious beliefs are.
              You can’t put a sign up saying “We serve Baptists ONLY”.
              Pizza guy is fucked.
              Try to envision the scene if he was black.

            • TexasBroad

              Thanks Shorpy. There must be LOTS of instances of such discrimination out there then — Disconnection may not be illegal, but this is certainly a way to bring it into the courtroom. Just because you are an SP and everyone unfriended you on Facebook and stopped being your friend in real life because of your SP status, you can’t be denied service on that basis — I bet there are a 100s of stories where this has happened.

            • The difference here is the law which applies to places of public accommodation as opposed to private actions in the context of the practice of a “religion”.
              The federal (and state) civil rights laws were passed for a reason, and cognizant of constitutional “rights” to discriminate in certain settings.
              Public accommodations are not among those.

            • TexasBroad

              I follow. Still I think there must be lots of instances of this having occurred, don’t you? Lots of wise- and/or scientologist-owned businesses probably turn away SP business routinely, no? I’m sincerely asking.

            • Yes. See response above, above, my late response.
              Its just that the “public” pizza parlor is a much clearer situation.

            • TexasBroad

              And it doesn’t hurt that its on video 🙂

            • No, indeed, that doesn’t hurt at all.
              Or that it is easily proved that “out of pizza” was a “pretext” excuse for discrimination, as defined by case law, not only by my phone call establishing that they had plenty of pizza, but by his own records, which undoubtedly would show that he was NOT “out of pizza”.
              In addition, he was “out of” every thing else.
              For Mark ONLY.
              If Mark doesn’t see a lawyer he is wasting a great opportunity.
              I can almost guarantee you No Pizza Man is shitting bricks about it now.
              (In part, I must say, due to my phone call immediately after the incident.)
              Despite being OTVIII and clueless, he, as a business owner, has received flyers from certain governmental agencies, informing him of his obligations.

            • And, once again, these laws arose for a reason.
              You’re black and wanted gas, food, or a room?
              What was the excuse/ “pretext”?
              “Ooops, none left. Just ran out.”
              Its classic.
              That’s why the “pretext” issue arose.
              Otherwise the pretext would be a complete defense.
              “The law”, actually. is a beautiful thing.
              It may grind exceedingly slow. But it grinds exceedingly fine.

            • You are correct in seeing that private protected action can spill over to violations of civil rights.

      • He was informed who Mark was.
        If he had known, he would have refused service without being ordered to.
        Since he is OTVIII.
        Clear case of actionable religious discrimination, and Mark should see an attorney.

        • Indeed that is what the video would appear to imply. It’s very damning when you consider the fact that Scientology claims disconnection is “self determined”.

          • As you well know know there is no self-determinism or free-will involved in Scientology.

            • Considering Scientology’s recruitment tactics are deceptive from the start, you are right about that. A decision cannot be considered freely made when an interested party withholds vital information from the decision maker.

            • Or employs deep hypnotic brainwashing techniques.
              Until this is recognized “own free will” and “freedom of belief” will continue to be used as a defense against mental slavery.

            • They are actually relatively simple and easy-to-understand psychological techniques. In fact most of the indoctrination doesn’t rely on brainwashing or hypnosis. it’s just simple groupthink and peer pressure techniques that take advantage of the way our brains are wired for social interaction.

            • Dave Touretzky and Rick Ross have shared some things about that.
              And Hubbard was a master hypnotist, and bragged about it.
              Matters not if “most” doesn’t rely on it, if some does, that’s the part that matters.

            • The problem that I have with those terms is that when you start using mystical, sci-fi terms like brainwashing and hypnotism to explain Scientology, you’re making people feel like they can’t understand how Scientology captures people.

              Actually it is incredibly simple if someone just takes a day or two to educate themselves on the psychological mechanisms that drive us all. It’s not like someone sits you down and injects you with sodium pentathol and waves watches in front of you.

              It’s very down-to-earth, very easy to do and can happen to anyone. Not just with Scientology but any other number of shady groups like them. Brainwashing and hypnotism raise people’s expectations so high when they meet a Scientologist. They expect to see some creepy maniac. Really it’s just a bunch of kooks that throw money at a dead guy together.

            • they are not mystical sci-fi terms.
              although they may sound like them
              but I understand your points.

        • I was going to say that!

  • beauty for ashes

    It’s definitely not Resting Bitch Face, but it is Bitch face LOL! F5

    • It is a very becoming picture of her.
      The caption nails it.

      When that kind of attitude is directed at a global evil, it justified.
      On such occasion, I like to say “You have a bad attitude. And I like it.”

      When its just the default mode, aimed at nothing in particular, its irritating.

      • beauty for ashes

        caption is also a song lyric 🙂

    • aegerprimo

      Leah is gorgeous.

      • Liberated

        I think her expression is perfect.

        • Especially vis-a-vis Scientology.

      • “Beauty” let’s face it, is ALL in the eyes of the beholders.
        And some, or many, may find her, or that particular picture, unflattering.
        That, though, is totally irrelevant to the matter at hand.
        But getting back to “beauty”, my own tastes run to the real.
        And the issue of Leah’s appearance measured by (fill in the blank)’s yardstick, raises the issue of why it is raised in the first place.
        She is an important person in the struggle for great justice.
        That would be the same if she were the “Elephant Man”.

        • aegerprimo

          Eloquently said.

          • I admire the wisdom and judgement of anyone who agrees with me.

            • aegerprimo

              So say we all. ☺

  • lkjl asdc
  • FOTF2012

    As Mark notes, I think the PI was doing what he was paid to do: tie Mark up in a conversation to keep Mark away from others.

    • And he did a good job of it.
      Mark should know better by now.

      • daisy

        Mark is always very pleasant and chatty. He never allows himself to be bull baited He always seems to try and put it out there to whomever he is talking too. That is his style , the voice of reason I hope he stays with this style , people are more open to listen to you and not disregard you as a crazy. I thank him for his tireless work.( I have a little daisy crush on him and his wise beard.)

        • Liberated

          It’s so freakin’ hot here, I think I’m gonna die.

          • daisy

            No AC , wet a sheet and wrap it around, and sit in front of a fan.

            • Liberated

              I have AC, it’s still unbearable. The only sensible thing to do is stay inside and drink, and I’m not talking about lemonade, if you get my drift?

      • PickAnotherID

        But at the same time, the PI got an education on $cientology. And the look on his face when he heard what the duo shadowing Ron Miscavige were getting paid was priceless.

  • Leah headlines all look the same to me XD
    https://i.imgflip.com/16j80t.jpg

  • Vaquera

    Coolest religion, indeed.
    I can’t help imaging Cruise’s face à la Risky Business.. Shoopers? f5

  • nottrue

    Whoops already in post. .. https://youtu.be/AhX-J53qcEo

    • Hang on, if that’s what the FB (now West Coast Building) does, what the heck does the CLO EUS in New York do?

      • flyonthewall

        it’s just bait for Anons covered in toenails, pubes and vaseline to go and hump stuff. That’s its only purpose.

        • Oh well, that’s okay then.

          I mean, it wouldn’t make any sense to have two completely different offices full of people calling up all the Eastern US orgs and yelling at them to raise their stats, would it?

    • Helen Van Patterson Patton

      I’m so looking forward to Jesse’s book.

  • Observer

    OT: Swirly bokeh lens pics!

    The swirl only shows up in certain conditions: you have to be a certain distance from your subject, and the background has to be a certain distance behind the subject. Being one of those annoying people who reads the directions paid off this time–I hit the jackpot on the first try! I know the composition isn’t the greatest, but I was just going for the swirl.

    Xenu only knows what order Disqus will post these in. The pics of the lens itself are for Rasha.

    • flyonthewall

      I WANT THAT LENS! GIMME!!

      • Observer

        They’re cheap on eBay. This one cost me fifty bucks.

        • flyonthewall

          theta bucks or regular?

          • Observer

            I forgot to ask and just sent regular. Is there any way to pay with theta bux through Paypal?

            • flyonthewall

              umm no, you have to use thetapal to send theta bucks, duh. *eyeroll*

            • Observer

              I didn’t know, you big meanie! *cries*

            • flyonthewall

              there there, ssh ssh

          • Enturbulated Masterbator

            Monopoly money.

    • edge

      Nice. Bought my first DSLR a few years ago (EOS Rebel T3). Been meaning to upgrade from the standard 18-55 mm lens. So many options, though I’m not with an unlimited supply of real dollars. Hopefully theta bucks will do.

      • Missionary Kid

        If you want to shoot pictures of people, I’d recommend getting a lens that covers 90~205. Don’t try to get “the whole person” in, because faces are what we really first look at. It’s also less intrusive when you’re shooting people.

        A lens of 18-55 tends to distort a person’s features, while a short telephoto mimics the way that we look at people. It “flattens out” their features.

        Most people over-buy when they get a camera, and get way more features than they need. They either never learn how to use it or they don’t use all of the features. I worked at a well-known school of photography for over 4 years (not as a photographer), but I had access to all of the film and print facilities. (This was before digital really got started). I didn’t use them because if I wanted portraits of my children, the students always needed models. Also, there was so much critiquing of everyone’s photos that it cooled my enthusiasm for doing my own photography.

        Now, I favor a PhD camera: Push here, Dummy. The Rebel seems like a pretty good camera for the price.

    • Rasha

      THNAK YOU, OBS!!!! ^_^ What a great bokeh effect! So, is it a diffraction grating inside the lens?? The focused bit is nice and sharp, and then all swirly and swoony!! LUV!!!

      • Observer

        Yes, it’s a defect in the lens. If you Google Helios Swirly Bokeh you can find the technical exlplanation. Later versions were corrected. This one is from the early 80s, I believe.

        • Rasha

          Ack! Defect?? This is a super-cool effect inherent in the lens!!

          “Our 2400 baud modems were also streaming 3D video, but we corrected it…”

          “The matte eggshell paint seemed to make the surface transparent and invisible, but we corrected it…”

          “The wonderful, beautiful world was also full of promise, but L. Ron Hubbard corrected it…”

          I mean, c’mon! …….Anyway. That is a very very cool lens, and I look forward to more stunning images. I will also look for one. Thank you for the pics of the lens!!!

          • Observer

            I guess there’s an art lens coming it which replicates this effect. Scared to the out how much they costs though.

            The old Helios lenses are pretty cheap on eBay (I paid $50 for this one). In my Googling I found the 44-2 often mentioned to be good for swirly bokeh, and they come in a variety of mounts.

            • Rasha

              I am always amazed at how there are those who will jump at a simple quirk, and manufacture and market an expensive brand around it. Case in point – ripped, faded jeans.

              I love the fact that this lens has a “flaw” that makes these images, and that my old sneakers simply slip on and off with no fuss or muss. Forget the “Helios® 44-6 Magna Spherical Abberative Boka-2000 Fresnel-Grade Omni-focal Perism (.300 grade) -.77mm “Dinsdale” Catalog Version” lens….

              Stick that one in yer “Air Jordans”….. Gimme the old defect.

              (end sermon)

    • That’s mental! I like 🙂

  • daisy

    DISCUS FIX THIS or I am going to sue you . Not a real suit too lazy., but a scientologist law suit.

  • Liberated

    Being the sarcastic person I am, I first said the perfect vp choice for Trump was Carrot Top, ya know the orange thing, then I changed to Ted Nugent, then just for laughs, Gary Busey.
    Now I just saw on the news (swear to god) Mike freakin’ Pence’s name has been mentioned.
    Oh god, let it be true!

  • flyonthewall

    Fact – everything is funnier if you put the word “theta” in front of it

    • Missionary Kid

      Add, “in bed” afterwards.

  • outraged

    ruh roh……

    Someone please read and report…..no time today for wrath burns.

    https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/

    • Nah.

    • Vaquera

      I took the dive. Meh.

    • Scream Nevermore

      Stuff about government. Usual wordiness, some made-up looking words. Got a headache halfway through.

    • nottrue

      He’s shooting for Trump VP

    • Observer

      I’d sooner read Barbara Schwarz’ blog.

      • Qbird

        I’m gonna skip this one, just cuz ~

        • Kim O’Brien

          i love this . i love this so much . pretty sure i LIVE this motto LOL

          • Qbird

            oh ha! 😛

          • Baby

            That has your name all over it Lady Kim. Ha

        • Qbird

          Also, FTR, I’m fine with MR feeling so free… to speak out so loudly…
          that he is able to say
          whatever it is he wants to say. It’s good that he experiences this, yes?!.
          Like Mr.JFS, same deal, write write write, fire away ~ I wonder how many will listen?
          For myself, I’m not listening any more. I don’t have to… I am so free.
          too.

    • Kim O’Brien

      Marty just realized that politics exist . This is going to be like when he discovered philosophy in his mid 50’s and was having A-HA moments about stuff that my kid was reading in the 7th grade . Look out Noam Chomsky . Dear god …i can’t wait until he discovers feminism . I can see his post now

      “Many ladies don’t fully understand what mansplaining is.”
      ~ Andy Kimmler tweet

      • Enturbulated Masterbator

        Manscaping can be dicey.

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Meh (monkey with Vaquera on this one 🙂 )

    • downtherabbithole

      Big yawn followed by sigh….

    • ze moo

      From a badly run city water department to regressive thinking and greed. Disjointed essay is disjointed.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Yup–an excellent tl;dr distillation of the guff, thank you, ze 🙂

    • outraged

      Seems like a consensus.
      The bunkerues have spoken.
      Marty, bring us your torch.

  • Sunny Sands

    This may be a repeat, but there’s an article on a website called krebsonsecurity.com titled “Scientology Seeks Captive Converts Via Google Maps, Drug Rehab Centers”.

    “This is the story about how searching for drug abuse treatment services online could cause concerned loved ones to send their addicted, vulnerable friends or family members straight into the arms of the Church of Scientology.”

  • J. Swift

    An imploding psycho-terrorist criminal syndicate, the Church of Scientology is led by malignant and violent narcissist David Miscavige who now proposes to promote Scientology as the “Coolest Religion in the World.” This slogan plays to Miscavige’s Herculean vanity as this would make him the coolest of the cool.

    Given that the central tenets of the Scientology Mafia are pathological lying, insatiable greed, and the perpetuation of a program of violence directed against its own members, former members, and critics, Scientology’s new cultic sloganeering that it is the “Coolest Religion in the World” is utterly laughable given the fact that OSA and RTC are psycho-terrorists while the hardcore OT’s are delusional skinheads who actually believe they have power over MEST — and yet all they can actually manage to “pull in” are occasionally finding good parking spots and premature death by cancer.

    Here is my assessment of David Miscavige’s latest propaganda attempt to be the Coolest Mind Control Cult in the World:

    1. When David Miscavige called SMP “Our uncorrupted communication line to the billions” this simply meant that Scientology wants a “one way flow” where it wants to talk, but will not listen to, or interact with, Culture. In this sense, SMP is simply a larger version of the touch panel screens in Orgs that Miscavige designed and implemented to eliminate, to the greatest degree possible, any interaction between the public and Sea Org members. For new Scientology watchers, the touch panels are flat screens that provide quick and ready propaganda answers about Scientology to non-Scientologists who go into an Org with questions. Miscavige believes that Sea Org members are stupid and cannot be trusted to give “standard Tech” answers to the public. Therefore, touch screens are needed. SMP is just a larger propaganda touch screen.

    The glaring outpoint here is that while Scientology opened SMP, the Cult still does not have a spokesperson.

    2. Miscavige gave away part of the Cult’s internal rage and dissonance behind this desperately lunatic “Coolest Religion in the World” program when he said,“Because as the saying goes, if you don’t write your own story, someone else will.” What has happened is that former Scientologists and critics have controlled the narrative about Scientology for so long now that Miscavige has decided he needed a redundant $50 million dollar studio in order to tell Scientology’s side of the story. The problem here is that Scientology cannot tell the truth about itself. Therefore, SMP will be constrained to producing what Scientology has always produced and that is propaganda, or, in the rough argot of David Miscavige “provable bullshit.” So go right ahead Dr. Miscavige. Please do make all the films and broadcasts you want. However, they will all be “provable bullshit” in any frame of reference: Film, television, iTunes, telegraph, telex, etc.

    3. Alex Gibney’s iconic Going Clear was a tour de force that Scientology has not been able to answer. SMP is an attempt to show Scientologists that their Church has, at least from a theoretical perspective, the means to answer Going Clear. However, this cannot happen. What will happen is more adulation of David Miscavige and more lies about L. Ron Hubbard because this is all Scientology has to offer. Hence, the more things change the more they remain the same. This is why Dr. Miscavige opened two renovated buildings over the weekend for the Church of Newbuildingology.

    • Newbuildingology. Good one.

    • Len Zinberg

      Meet the new face of Scientology…John Sugg!

      • Kim O’Brien

        Petrichor……;) It rained some here the other night ..and when i walked out in the morning to have coffee on my new back patio …i thought about Petrichor . Waving hi !!!

        • Len Zinberg

          Yeah, it’s a good, earthy word, isn’t it?

    • jazzlover

      Do you have any sense that what he’s really aiming to accomplish is the worldwide broadcast of hypnotic messages a la “1984”? Could he really think that this is possible?

      • Robert Eckert
        • jazzlover

          Reminds me of the subliminal movie ads of my youth 🙂

          • Robert Eckert

            Why do I have a strong urge for a large Coke all of a sudden?

          • Enturbulated Masterbator

            Hey Jazz, I just started reading Moby’s biography. You familiar with it? I’m only a few chapters in but he has a wide influence and met many in the music biz.

            • jazzlover

              Are you talking about the electronic/dance music guy? If so, I’ve heard of him, but am not all that familiar with his music. I know that he did influence a lot of the hip-hop scene in the 90s though. How’s the book? Worth reading?

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              Yep, that’s him. Born in NYC but grew up in Connecticut. He has a very eclectic influence from classic rock, DeBussy, black gospel, jazz, rap, etc. Lots of stories living in Chelsea in the 80s and 90s. I’m the same age as he (50) and easily relate although I had a completely opposite upbringing. He met lots of impresario early in his career. Interestingly, he was a devout Christian thru much of it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              ‘Play’ was huge 1999-2000

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              He has produced some hauntingly beautiful tracks. I thought of you while reading so you may want to check it out.

            • jazzlover

              Believe it or not, I’ve already gotten that directive from my teenage son. I guess I should check it out now that 2 people have told me to 🙂 My kid even gave me the whole Bob Marley “power to the people” speech. I just laughed and said “I’ve been hearing that since i was 15” 🙂 I will check out some Moby, though. He sounds like an interesting guy. Ironic, especially considering that he grew up in CT, the home of pasty-whiteness 🙂

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              He often, jokingly, refers to his pastyness while entrenched in the world of hip hop, rap and electronica.

            • jazzlover

              I would bet he encountered some difficulties proving himself in that world as a result of his skin color. It’s probably similar to what Eminem overcame in the rap world, and to what white jazz musicians used to go through.

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              BTW, yes, it’s worth a read. I’ve visited NYC many times so that’s not the draw for me. It’s more of the dichotomy between his poverty and the music business that I find interesting.

            • jazzlover

              You make an interesting point. The music world seems to be filled with dichotomies. I suppose it takes some serious focus to ignore or overcome them in order to succeed.

      • J. Swift

        jazzlover, Scientology doesn’t have the horsepower, sophistication, intelligence, credibility, or audience to pull off a 1984. The best Scientology can do is swing a cudgel in a Dark Ages Inquisition in which it burns heretics while its mad Emperor issues delusional proclamations.

        Scientology propaganda is frozen in Hubbard’s paranoid, self-destructive, and obsolete worldview. This is why Scientology reached a zenith with NOT’s and thereafter became fundamentally stagnant after the death of L. Ron Hubbard.

        Scientology’s stagnation has become devolutionary and this trend continues. New buildings, propaganda, the culture of cruelty, and the endless relaunches of its stagnant product line are all Scientology is actually about.

        Finally, there can be no 1984 because the system of Scientology is, for all intents and purposes, incoherent. 1984 requires coherence and, as David Miscavige is the incoherent personification of Scientology, Scientology is bound to Miscavige’s incoherent malevolence and staggering mismanagement.

        .

        • jazzlover

          Thanks, Jeff. It has occurred to me that Miscavige may have deluded himself to the point where he believes the “religion” exerts more control in world gub than would/could be realistic.

      • Liberated

        I think lil’ Davey deep down inside knows he is a stupid freakin’ idiot and wouldn’t even attempt such a ballsy move. If so, he would of course make someone else do it so he could blame them when it fails.

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          That’s Mr Tiny Balls.

  • Jeb Burton

    Thanks for the video Mark. That is so downtown Clearwater. I wonder what threat the goon gave the pizza guy? As Mark was trying to explain Scientology to the PI I had to laugh. I once had a date with a girl from out of town, and we went to eat at Clearwater Beach. I mentioned Scientology and told her about downtown. She wanted to see it. She asked me what Scientology was all about. I went into a Mark Bunker type of explanation. Not as articulate, but in the same theme. Never saw her again.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Off Topic ~ 80% off flights from Denver to London .$491 round trip . It would cost me more to go to Florida for Christmas . Even though this seems like good news …i am worried for all the peeps across the pond . Holy shit you guys .

    • Jon S

      yeah. it sucks here at the moment. everyone’s worried, at least anyone with any sense who isn’t a xenophobic maniac. come visit. maybe you guys could do howdycon in london some time. if you wait long enough the flights will be even cheaper.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i don’t think that standing in a bread line would be a good group dinner ( kidding …but OMG …worried about you guys )

        • Jon S

          lol

          • Jon S

            i could show you round saint ill. i’ve been there as a tourist. they have to let you in as it uses a signage system (the so-called automobile association “brown” road signs) that are used to denote historic public attractions and major sights. by doing so they have to allow public admission, so if you turn up and aren’t obviosuly a protester they’ll show you round. i went a year or so to get an idea of the place and will go again this year. it’s spooky as hell. almost like some kind of cult headquarters or something….

            • I’d love to walk through Saint Hill .. with a WiFi access point and Call Me WordPress site in my bag.

            • MissCandle

              Do it. Just do it. Safely.

      • Robert Eckert
        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Quite.ETA: … particularly when nearly one in three (27·8%) of the population thought they had better things to do than express their democratic duty in one of the most significant national votes in at least a generation… *deep breath, end rant*ETA2: … and another thing… the media commentators were pleased with this as a turnout, not damning it as the dreadful indictment of the disengaged third of the electorate that it inevitably was… *calms from panting anger to merely red-faced rage*My last words on the whole sorry affair.

          • edge

            For those keeping score, the Brexit vote has resulted in the pound tanking to its lowest point in a generation, Britain’s credit rating being downgraded by S&P, and the status of all of Britain’s trade agreements being thrown into question. Good job, xenophobes.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Hey, but at least the… *hah*… exports will be cheaper.I want to secede from the UK and rejoin Europe!ETA: Done… definitely… done.

            • Robert Eckert

              As I’ve been trying to explain to upset UK friends, the pound has still not tanked as badly as when I went to the UK in the wake of the 1975 referendum. That time, the UK had just joined the EEC, and some people were furious that Parliament had done this without consulting the people, so there was a referendum on whether to reverse the decision. Remain won, so everybody started selling the pound like mad because that idiotic decision to join the EEC was bound to destroy British industry, and it did throw the UK into a year-long recession, which was great for me as a travelling hippie on a budget. The Leave campaign worried that the Common Market was bound to morph into a Political Union, and the Remain campaign assured everyone that was alarmist rubbish. Scotland was the heartland of the Leave vote: they were fighting for “devolution” of power from the center to the local level, and very much against giving more power to an even more distant center, and not buying this talk about how there would be no political Union: “of course there will be political integration,” a Scottish paper wrote, “and of course it will be handled as cack-handedly as possible.” After the disastrous Remain win and the collapse which followed, English papers wrote things like “Joining has turned us into the poor relations of Europe. We will be scrounging on the dole for the rest of our lives.” and “The promised benefits turn out to be like a discount coupon to a shop which is so far out of our way that it is scarce worth redeeming it.”

              Here’s the thing: economies don’t like what mathematicians call “step functions” that have abrupt changes of value. The “oil shock” of 1973 when OPEC multiplied prices times-four was an example. In 1975, joining was a major disruption; but then everybody got over it. Now, leaving will be a major disruption; but everyone will get over it. Juncker is making noises about “punishing” Britain to deter other countries: but that is because his personal power is his top priority, a perfect example of why the Leave voters felt the way that they do. Merkel is talking in much more conciliatory tones because: she wants German companies to continue selling VW’s etc. to the UK even if that means the Nissan plant in Sunderland still ships cars to Germany; in general, the large corporations are all in favor of making this “Leave” vote change as few things as possible, and you know what? I bet the large corporations actually have more influence on the way things turn out than the racist fearmongers or even the Eurocrats. Of course, in the meantime there will be some political shakeups:
              https://scontent-ord1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/13516551_10154204216519277_2385511704348459822_n.jpg?oh=41475406ad908a0c21188413c0dad011&oe=5806E1FF

            • daisy

              another bad joke. Sorry – move along nothing to see.

            • Scream Nevermore

              The large corporations in Germany especially have a tight grip on their Government. they will bring Merkel to heel.

            • YellowSubmarine

              Juncker…the same drunk that said there would be a continental crisis if the Dutch voted against the trade agreement with Ukraine (which they did. no crisis.) Speaking of drunk: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XPgiI46FCDU

            • Spackle Motion

              To make matters worse for us ‘muricans, those jerb-loving, gun totin’, twats that are Trump supporters don’t understand the British ‘cautionary tale’ going on in front of them. 64% of the dumb-dumbs in this country have never left the country and probably couldn’t point out London on a map.

          • Robert Eckert

            “My last words on the whole sorry affair”: you probably just lied unintentionally, but we’ll forgive you!

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              I did lie (see below), and for that I hang my head in shame–I will endeavour to keep the promise as UK/EU politics talk really has very little place here.

            • Robert Eckert

              meh, don’t worry about it. We Americans can’t resist talking about you-know-who sometimes.

            • MadMaxi

              I actually like learning from real people, opposed to just news articles, about what is going on over the pond.

          • daisy

            Ah Monkey so sorry to hear about your political troubles. You can move here and stay in my basement. You will have to share with the others if Trump wins , though.

      • “…anyone with any sense who isn’t a xenophobic maniac…”
        I appreciate the fact that you recognize that there are such.

      • MaxSpaceman

        worried at the loss of jobs? and the diminishing of the yearly # of visitors? and the decrease in the the gross amount of dollars spent by tourists per year?

        the fastest growing city in the US of A. (Where’s The Riviera? Where’s The Desert Inn? Where’s The Dunes?)

        • Robert Eckert

          The cheap pound should attract a greatly increased number of tourists this summer. I am strongly considering a trip while I can afford it.

          • MaxSpaceman

            I thought Jon S was talking Las Vegas !

    • edge

      Domestic travel is definitely a mystery. Here in Canada a trip between Vancouver and Toronto is more expensive than a flight to Los Angeles or a flight + hotel package in Vegas.

      • Kim O’Brien

        vegas is gross . they should GIVE those packages away LOL

        • edge

          I wouldn’t complain if they did 🙂

    • So what you’re saying is vote for Donald Rump?

      • Kim O’Brien

        dear god no . Last thing i want is a report saying

        ” After Trump wins …Americans google ” What is the Constitution” ?

        • I just wanted to misinterpret what you said in the worse way possible.

    • Jeb Burton

      Thank god. Fly to Europe and stay out of Florida.

  • Was it “Nat” something…(I try not to keep track for legal reasons) who was doing a twitter thing to counter the “scientology coolest religion” thing?
    Whoever…..need more….
    Let’s kill this shit….

    • daisy

      Don*t bother if we counter it we bring attention to it. Scientology will kill it themselves . Crap Nebula

      • No.
        There is madness to this method.

        • daisy

          Ok but your the guy who said Drugs are bad so I am skeptical.

    • flyonthewall

      kill what? No one but a handful of jerky clams and us knows about it, lol

  • So Tony revealed today two secrets we secretly learned at our secret HowdyCon meeting.
    There are two more secrets, but I forgot what they are (no I didn’t). I also wonder if there like 8 more he didn’t tell us about.

    • TexasBroad

      I really admire people who keep secrets well (I pride myself on that) and at the same time, I HATE when people know things I don’t know! Maddening!

      • Kestrel

        More will be revealed…

        • TexasBroad

          Grrr. What’s really frustrating is Dodo said there are two more secrets and I only remember ONE! My memory is getting worse and worse. Someday I’m going to completely forget my own colorful past and will have to stop being so good and make a new one!

          • Kestrel

            That’s okay. I understand. I only remember the secrets he told us before we went to dinner.

            I keed! I keed!

          • daisy

            I am very forgetful ( who knows why ) but I view it as getting a surprize everyday. I also enjoy meeting new people .

            • Kestrel

              Like your relatives?

          • Observer

            I only remember one other as well.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Don’t forget the sideways laptop 😉 (and that’s as far as I’m willing to go!)

            • Fly Lady

              I remember and I wasn’t even really paying attention.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Thank goodness someone was paying enough attention to notice 🙂 (and Tony was worried about secrets being blown!) *chortle*

            • Observer

              That’s the one I remember

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              In which case, could be difficult–as the others were most certainly verbal…hold on a mo… do you get email notifications for replies?

            • Observer

              No

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Curses!Do you have a burning desire to know what the *ahem* other things 😉 were?

            • daisy

              Judging by the way you wear your tie I think you would be willing to go farther with only slight encouragement.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Carefully dosed strong liquor, ma’am 😉

            • Robert Eckert

              I remember two

          • Oh, my bad. I think Tony announced the audio thing. If so, yes, just ONE.

    • flyonthewall

      I learned a secret the rest of you did not…until now. *motions to come close* Tony likes egg n cheese bagels and black coffee for breakfast! Pass it on.

      • daisy

        Tony likes morning sex with black women. Pass it on

        • flyonthewall

          that was the shortest game of telephone ever! Pass it on

      • It’s either the only thing they serve in Cleveland or my wife, you and Tony went to the same place two mornings in a row. The ones she would bring me also had sausage/bacon though. Good stuff.

        • daisy

          Your wife is very pretty and could do better than you. kj

          • True fact.

            • Frodis73

              I wish I would have gotten more time to talk with her, shes awesome…as are you my dear!

            • <3

          • flyonthewall

            you’re saucy today

            • daisy

              No just into the sauce early.

            • flyonthewall

              i will repeat myself – you’re saucy today

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              No, Daisy is on her juice diet. Again.

        • flyonthewall

          you mean he had breakfast with other people besides me? 🙁 I feel so cheap now.

          • Nah. Very cool you guys had breakfast together.
            I only shared liquid dinner with him.

            • flyonthewall

              you guys had Ovaltine w/o me??? Wtf goes on here man!? I’m pissed now. What flavor was it and if you say strawberry I will punch you

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Ovaltine does STRAWBERRY???

            • flyonthewall

              yes but it’s only on the secret menu in restaurants. *wink*

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Ohhhhh… okay…

  • nottrue
    • Jeb Burton

      The coolest pizza joint on earth.

    • Baby

      NT: That is absolutely fabulous. Great job.

  • JaxNGold

    I am loving today’s news. A TV series about $cientology, produced by Leah? Excellent. Miscavige is gonna lose his shit.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Correction. His tiny shit.

      • JaxNGold

        Duly noted.
        😆

  • Liberated

    Score one for women today. The S court shut down that ridiculous suppressive law that women can’t make our own decisions regarding our bodies and person health. Gives me hope.

    • Frodis73

      Yes, those TRAP laws were a freaking joke…so many clinics were shut down over them too…most probably will not open again either, which is a huge shame. Thankfully, they shut this nonsense down so it wont spread to more states than it did.

  • edge

    Miscavige should go all in with his vanity. To go with the “coolest religion on earth” shirts he should wear a “Coolest Religious Leader on Earth” shirt.

  • BraveBloggers

    Speaking of Scio being more a frequent topic in the media…I saw something today from the mid to late 80s/early 90s at best, taking a dig at Dianetics.

    The movie Mrs. WinterBourne was playing and in the background, the comedian Bob Kat Goldwaith (sp?) was playing in the shot. His line, which if your familiar with his crazy act/routine is comical, was, I’m a living example of Dianetics. I’m a parents worst nightmare.

    CoS has been taking J&D heat rounds for some time, but it’s nice to see the awareness level exponentially expanding. It cracked me up to see that wee bit. Anyone else ever see his bit on Dianetics?

    ETA: Found the clip. Start watching and the remark is at the 1:51 minute mark. The set-up is the prep for the comment.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0qAfWWQJ5w

    • Qbird

      Bobcat Goldthwait. Really different funny guy. https://youtu.be/lFA1itT7VBA

      • JJ

        Green eggs and Hamlet.

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          Green eggs and Hemet.

  • Edward Whalley

    OK, now, where’s the daytime drama/sitcom about life under Scientology? There are plenty of Christian dramas. Tons of novels/comedies/series about “Christian” families confronting the harsh world of the Pagans (which includes Catholics, Unitarians, and Episcopalians such as myself, not to mention Buddhists, Muslims, and Hindus.) I’m wondering why they don’t have propaganda showing how Scientologists hold parties, have family gatherings, and basically, live throughout the day, within the confines of the Faith.

    • BraveBloggers

      Isn’t that kinda, in a cloaked way, what Mrs. Netflix horse and her faithful sidekick Bohdi were trying to do via their podcast? To get a Elfman reality show?

      ETA: IIRC there was some talk about a reality show or potential show that either was a result of creating the podcast or hoping to interest someone in them. It might have been tounge in cheek, but I can’t recall.

      • Kim O’Brien

        poor Jenna and Bodhi . This must be driving them crazy . Truly …can you imagine their rage ? LOL …oh man , i love shit like this .

      • Chee Chalker

        You know how sometimes there is a word that describes a person perfectly? As if the word was created just for them? For the Elfmans, that word is INSUFFERABLE.

        • BraveBloggers

          True, but I believe there are many words to describe them perfectly. Insufferable is one. I’ll refrain from some of the others because I don’t have your succinct nature of being able to just give one. I’d likely bust out a thesaurus and it would be one of those posted comments with the “see more” tab underneath it.

    • Kim O’Brien

      ” harsh world of the Pagans” ….

      ah yes …the slings and arrows of math , science , and humanism .

    • Chee Chalker

      I think they attempted that with the ‘I’m a Scientologist’ series. Went over like a lead balloon.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      I can’t wait for the new season of Real Housewives of Hemet!

  • Roger Y

    NO pizza for you.

  • Liberated

    Don’t anyone waste your time watching Inside Edition, Tony will not be on today

  • JJ

    Think they found me. Every time I search something like Miscavige or Scientology the computer kicks me off line, literally…

    • flyonthewall

      are you using a dial up modem?

      • JJ

        Describe it..yes I am that dense.

        • flyonthewall

          does it sound like this when you log on to the internet? Are you using Netscape 2.0?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gsNaR6FRuO0

          • Looool

            • flyonthewall

              Scientology is the AOList religion on earth.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gFBLiHpkcOk

            • flyonthewall

              welp, I know what I’m doing for the next 12hrs. Thnx Dice

            • np!

            • JJ

              Roaches check in but they don’t check out…

            • JJ

              And what happened to Morse code it came up and disappeared?

            • Refresh the Internet

            • JJ

              OMG it won’t let me…

            • JJ

              See what happens if I unplug it from the wall…

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              Ancient Chinese secret….hmmmm

            • Hey! i heard a cricket sound… is that you?

            • JJ

              blowing my nose actually…

            • Aslan’s Own

              My mother still uses AOL. My sister and I were up with her this weekend and in another room when all of a sudden we heard the loud “You’ve Got Mail!” — we both looked at each other and just burst out laughing.

              In my mom’s defense though, I do have to say that she’s 91! Plus props to her for still emailing!

            • MaxSpaceman

              Huuuuuuuuuuuge props for active e-mailing, mum’s 91 after all 🙂

            • Aslan’s Own

              I know! She started using a computer when she was 80 because her first grandchild was going off to college and we all told her that if she ever expected to hear from her again she needed to learn to use email. So we got her a laptop and she loved it.

            • Harmless Weirdo

              My dad used AOL. These days, I only have a couple of regular contacts left who do. The rest have all died off.

              What I do love about AOL is that when one of my fellow volunteers, who I have not yet met, emails me about doing public events together, I already know they’re going to be at least 65 if they have an AOL addy. So even before I respond, I know I’m going to be the one doing the heavy lifting when it comes to loading, setting-up, breaking-down, and unloading, and thus plan accordingly. I swear–it’s been true every single time.

            • Aslan’s Own

              Ha! That’s hilarious and I can see how it would be completely true!! I think I know one person that’s maybe in her 50’s who uses it and I always want to email her back and say “Why???”

            • Juicer77

              Stealing this for a tweet! 😉

          • JJ

            Damnit that didn’t help. two squirrels running in a wheel attached to electrons…?

          • Ella Raitch

            Aaah Netscape…and Altavista

  • JJ

    And they got to Bing maps if you look up Hemet, the hills behind the Workers Paradise sort of, morph into blocks of hillside in the wrong places…

  • Chee Chalker

    https://t.co/W3HyxKaY08

    My tweet to Scientology MP…..and John Alex Wood of course

    • JJ

      “Don’t sell yourself short Judge, I think your a tremendous slouch…”

  • worstcultever

    This news about Leah almost made me jump out of my chair with delight, because swear to gods, only last week did I finally get around to reading her book, and it actually it surprised me how VERY hard she hit Scientology … so anyway on finishing the book I thought wistfully to myself “gosh I wonder what if anything she’s gonna do next – as good as this is, is she really gonna just leave it there … “

    And YOW, just like that, here’s her lovely mug appearing on the Bunker with this snoopydance-worthy news! Damn!

    (You’re welcome everybody, for my powerful SP postulationness!)

    • daisy

      Sorry honey was trying to post to Fly and thank you for your SP postulationess.

  • flyonthewall

    did you guys know there are other websites on the internet besides this one? I seriously had no idea. There’s like a bunch on there, it’s crazy. brb

    • edge

      iknorite?! It’s like going into a Scientology book store and finding a book that doesn’t have L Ron Hubbard’s name on it. I mean, someone other than Hubbard could write?! Mind blown.

    • Rasha

      Hahaha! That’s a great one! I fell for that once, and we just laughed and laughed and laughed……

    • downtherabbithole

      The topic of Scientology can be so depressing but I so love the humor I find here in the bunker. Feels so good to laugh.

      • Liberated

        Laughter is the best medicine—certainly worked for me when I was at my lowest.

    • April

      I remember back in the early 90’s you could buy a book which listed all of the websites on the internet at the time. It was the size of a large phone book.

      Thank god for search engines.

      • Arthur Pewtie

        By the time you got it, it was out of date.

      • Carol Crawford

        I remember getting one to use in my library research job. This was all before Google and WiFi and smartphones.

    • noseinabk
      • flyonthewall

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    Jesse Prince – Great to know the years you were there. I was out in the field at that time. Probably the need to know was not available to you, Wish it were, we could have a good talk. Chuck Uhl was my only contact then.
    Love you for being out and speaking for so many years! Thank you!

    • daisy

      Are you the Reverand Dee Baby refers to ?

      • April

        Yes.

        • daisy

          So Baby and the Reverand go into a bar…..

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Welcome to the Bunker Daisy. I’m L. Wrong…nice to meet you.

        • daisy

          Not to worry I remember the bitches. Hi L Wrong nice to see you again.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            You are cracking me up tonight with the jokes earlier. Bad, Daisy, baaad.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        That is me, Rev Dee. I got that nickname when THDNE had a party and I had mentioned that I did the ministers course because I wanted to be one. Well, I never was ordained. What a farce!
        So Hole ordained me, haha, even gave me a collar. It was a fun party with everyone getting awards of sorts.

        • daisy

          I love that story even if I am a little disappointed you are not a real minister. I really liked the idea of Baby corrupting a women of the cloth. I hope to take her to my church some day.

          • Robert Eckert

            She’s a lot realler than a bunch of “ministers” out there.

            • daisy

              Preaching to the choir, big Baby fan

  • daisy

    Paul Haggis actually helping people. Built a school in Haiti . Love people who do not annoy the helpees. More tomorrow on ET Canada.

  • Vaquera

    “Back By Popular Demand”
    Someone on the Tampa staff should probably word clear popular. f5

    • Kestrel

      Maybe after this one they’ll be able to collect enough bus fare to help him get out of town.

    • Demanding is very popular with upper management.

    • They mean “despite” popular demand.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Does he have a brother named Harry?

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      “Reserve your seat” ,,, before we sell the chair to pay the electric bill.

    • coonellie

      You know, I keep thinking it’s because I’m tired that I read these things wrong, but I’m beginning to think it’s just that I’ve got to make light of it. This time, I saw this, “Cult Speaker, Mr. Wacked Cock”. Sheesh.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Someone should post a comment on their Facebook page asking if he’s got any shoplifting EPs to share. Hehe

  • Wogalistic

    Man I really wish Clams didn’t have firearms with how much I hear about them drawing ….between this and the surviving Scientology where the “security” head had a gun drawn getting ready to shoot people who were around the fence that were sent there to test their security. Good lord, its a shock nobody has been shot…yet. Paranoia, abuse and guns not a good combo.

  • how sweet is gemma F5

    • Kestrel

      Her eyes widened as he opened the jar of Vaseline. Her fears were realized. He had a massive hair ball to deal with.

      • daisy

        More hair in that ball than on his head.

      • Juicer77

        ROFL

    • daisy

      Only an idiot wouldn’t know which direction this was heading . Oh wait….
      ETA – ICK

    • Observer

      Not very. So she actually licks JAW’s head? Eww

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Makes me wanna hack up a hairball.

    • JaxNGold

      The Cult Cat? Lol

    • jazzlover

      Please tell her we need proof 😉

      • daisy

        NOBODY wants proof -erp

        • jazzlover

          Her reaction might have been interesting. She needs to be “played with” more.

  • daisy

    SERIOUSLY DISCUS KNOCK IT OFF!! THIS IS THE THIRD TIME IT JUMPED TO A BACK COLUMN.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Gurl, you knock it off! I feel ya Boo.

    • It’s a new feature

  • BlueHeronBay

    O/T. Just saw this elsewhere. I hope the arresting officers also happen to be some of the Co$ bribe-ees. (Apparently the woman prepared her own briefs for the case. eta: Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
    http://www.pleated-jeans.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/img3.jpg

    • JaxNGold

      LOL! This actually happened? That is too good.

  • Harmless Weirdo

    So–SF’s BART challenged LA Metro to a transit haiku throwdown on Twitter.

    Metro took up the gauntlet, and they hurled the public transit equivalent of yo mama jokes at each other (in haiku form). They came up with some good ones, but this one in particular needs to be posted here. (I’m going to assume it hasn’t been, already.)

    [ETA: Might as well throw a link in: http://la.curbed.com/2016/6/24/12027894/metro-and-bart-are-in-a-twitter-haiku-battle-right-now%5D

  • flyonthewall

    Oh snap! (Kids still say that don’t they?) Izzy’s son got sentenced to one year in Fed prison and $10k fine for smuggling endangered and delicious animal parts!

    Also, his lawyer pleads for mercy citing the ” physical and mental abuse he sustained during his upbringing in the Church of Scientology. ”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/beverly-hills-auctioneer-sentenced-smuggling-bust-article-1.2684300

    f5

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      I wouldn’t be so zowerswopped as to criticize the use of ‘oh snap’.

      • jazzlover

        LOL. Ok, you got me Phil. I had to look that up, only to find that there are no definitions for it yet. Now’s your chance to be Bunker etymologist 🙂

        • Sid (Phil Jones)

          ZOWERSWOPPED . Grumpy or ill-natured.

          • jazzlover

            I think that works 🙂

            Alternate defn. How Davey feels after giving one too many speeches in front of an audience that that just can’t take the sound of his voice anymore.

            • Sid (Phil Jones)

              That’s partly due to his incessant zaggle.

              ZAGGLE: To “confuse by contradictory assertions”

            • jazzlover

              “They must love me because they’re throwing things at me”

          • Rasha

            ROWSDOWERED

            • Observer

              I posted swirly bokeh and lens pics below

            • Rasha

              OMAGARSH!! (skedaddles)

            • Rasha

              …just got back from the pics. (breathes heavily) …I am truly Rowsdowered….

            • Juicer77

              XD
              ROWSDOWER!!!!!!

          • Supper Powers

            I’m changing my screen name now!

    • This is huge.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Geez, everybody’s blaming scientology these days…

      Also, perfect gif is perfect.

  • Glen

    Echoing Fly’s link to story about Izzy Chait’s son, here is the Reuters story. Smh, pleading for mercy because of his $scientology upbringing, including physical and mental abuse….and the threat of disconnection.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-crime-smuggling-idUSKCN0Z821Q

    A couple of relevant quotes from the article:

    His attorney, Judith Germano, had asked the judge for a sentence of community service. She said that Chait risked being cut off from his family, which raised him in the Church of Scientology, by cooperating with prosecutors.

    “My actions were wrong and I regret them every single day,” Chait said before being sentenced.

    He also said that in a “weird way,” he was grateful for the criminal case because it “has allowed me to break the chains of my upbringing.”

    Edited to add this quote from NY Daily News story:

    During public court proceedings, Chait’s lawyer, Judith Germano, asked the court to take into account what she described as the physical and mental abuse he sustained during his upbringing in the Church of Scientology.

    • Ella Raitch

      It talks about him cooperating with prosecutors but doesn’t mention if his father has also been charged. Hmmmm.

      • Glen

        I wonder…in an earlier case involving I.M. Chait selling Nicholas Cage a rare stolen dinosaur skull “neither Cage nor the gallery was accused of wrongdoing in the affair.”

        • jazzlover

          The old unfortunate confluence of events excuse, eh?

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Did Izzy throw his son under the bus?

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            With all due respects to the Red Hot Chili Peppers, I think that in CO$ circles it’s referred to as being thrown under the bridge 😉

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Cheeky walrus… ; )

    • Huge.

    • cdub

      Big wow!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    OMG! Please tell me that someone saw the psyche buster selfie story here and then sent these in, as a gag. (refresh)

    http://www.psychsearch.net/wp-content/uploads/selfie55.jpg

    http://www.psychsearch.net/wp-content/uploads/selfie50.png

    • Supper Powers

      Man, that is just sad.

    • daisy

      It is as if they pick which toe to aim at.

      • Juicer77

        ^^^

    • jazzlover

      Turn those frowns upside down fellas. Your 5 bucks is on the way.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I’d like to know how many $$$ would I have to send in for them to take these photos down! Yeesh!

        • jazzlover

          If they’re in the UK, only about $3.37 😉

        • Juicer77

          Oh, no. Leave them up in all their glory! Just like the fawning Amazon reviews for Battlefield Earth. Sunlight is the best disinfectant. 😉

    • JJ

      Can we use it to complain about some of Sigmund Freud’s really whacked out shit? Or do they mean living people?

    • daisy

      This is my brain without Prozac.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Yeah, and that’s not the best time to take a selfie and then share it with the world. PPS (Post Prozac Selfie) Tech in action here?

    • MaxSpaceman

      YIKES!!

  • jazzlover

    Just heard on a re-run of “Two Broke Girls” (yes, I know it’s vapid):

    “I’m not a scientologist. I just went there once because I heard a rich guy was looking for a wife.”

    • edge

      I love it. No one’s afraid of taking shots at the cult now 🙂
      Keep the J&D coming.

      • jazzlover

        That shot was particularly telling. Scientology’s seen as the religion you need to be rich enough to practice. LOL

        • edge

          I’m waiting for someone to say “Dude I did nothing but drink for the past 2 hours and I watched that Ancient Aliens show on History and I got the idea to go to that Scientology thing”.

          • jazzlover

            LOL

            • edge

              Scientology should totally co-opt that Ancient Aliens meme. For real. That should be the tagline for their Super Bowl commercial

              Scientology: We’re not saying it’s aliens….But it’s aliens.

            • jazzlover

              Self-deprecation could actually get them more members. Everybody loves those who can make fun of themselves 🙂

            • JJ

              Why is fundamentalism so at odds with self humor? I have almost never seen it. Seriously. Too much like doubt or being snarky and profane about The Way?

            • jazzlover

              You’re right. Maybe we should write the Watchtower to see if they’d like their members to attend a free comedy show put on by members of the Bunker 🙂

              Seriously, though, if you think about it, all of these groups are considered so “fringe” because of the endless pontificating about “higher purpose”. You only live once. Who the hell would want to spend their whole life focusing on their death?

            • JJ

              Um… not after what happened in Cali. How bout bag of poop on door step lit on fire and run?

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, that oughtta get ’em laughing 😉

            • JJ

              S’working for me here! I think I just freaked out my neighbor.

            • JJ

              looking up watchtower watch…The facts are clear, being a Jehovahs Witness is not fun…” well, there ya go, and when ya go only fifteen hundred and two of you are getting through… really the whole point of the cool kids club was only the cool kids could get in…

            • jazzlover

              Not very desirable when the cool club lacks cool people. Sign me up for the uncool club 😉

  • TexasBroad

    Just reread the post. Looking forward to the two series…also looking forward to the story behind the passing mention of “the pushback by the church” — therein lies the story I bet. Predictably delicious.

  • Chai T. Ch’uan

    If Wise Beard Man did not exist, the world would be a sadder place. Thank you Wise Beard Man, you are an inspiration to us all.

    • Juicer77

      Welcome, Chai! I agree, WBM is one of the best at making clear – yet friendly – points that will appeal to his listener.

    • Baby

      Welcome Chai.. so glad you joined our merry little band of brothers and sisters.

  • JJ

    Somebody just flew over in their new bi-plane. Lucky Bastard!!!

    • jazzlover

      One of my friends’ parents escaped Czechoslovakia in the 50s during the Russian occupation in a bi-plane. I doubt she felt all that lucky 🙂

      • JJ

        Cool. Did she live long enough to go back after the revolution and see people she had to leave behind?

        • jazzlover

          Yes, she did. It took many attempts and years. My friend’s father escaped death at Auschwitz (via Czech) as a child. I used to love going over to their house. They had such interesting stories of perseverance.

          • JJ

            I can’t imagine! You look at black and white pics and think that is ages ago but it was NOW to the people living it then. Imagine now having to make those kinds of decisions, give up everything you know to be free, or even to live. Worse the people who couldn’t get out. Human beings sure do like to make life hard for well humanity…

            • jazzlover

              We are our own worst enemies at times. I can’t imagine being faced with that kind of adversity. To me, it’s proof that we take a lot for granted. These people endured so much, and yet to me as a child, they seemed none the worse for wear. It was fascinating to see that. There are similar stories of overcoming in everyone’s lives, but those seemed so far beyond any others to me at the time.

            • JJ

              As a child a lot of things seemed different… I am still coming to terms with what I thought was and what really was… Some people who lived through the unimaginable maybe just decide the past was the past and there was nothing to do but move on and be great-full they survived. I don’t know, it is almost unreal to imagine. 1940 running for your life, literally, 1950, have a job, support your family, don’t look back too much…?

            • jazzlover

              I’m sure that was probably how they saw things – we survived and now we’ll move on and do the things we need to do to keep surviving. It’s a very sensible way of looking at things. It can’t be easy though.

            • Rasha

              …..that was some biplane…..

            • jazzlover

              I can’t even imagine. The whole thing seemed unfathomable to me as a kid.

            • Liberated

              One of the main things I have always admired about people that have endured such unspeakable hardships, they always look after their own. They’re loyalty is like no other.

            • jazzlover

              The tend to see the bigger picture more easily, I think.

            • JJ

              I dropped out in ninth but heard that when the Jewish Holocaust was studied in class the day they showed footage they showed only fifteen minutes of it. Maybe the depths of depravity and truly vicious behaviors the Nazi’s displayed, filmed and catalogued themselves doing, and the results of them were/are things people just do not want to look at too closely.

          • Liberated

            Most of my childhood friends parents were in the camps, Hungary, Germany ,Romania and that doesn’t even include the people from Latvia, and Stalin’s Russia. They were all good kind people, and I’ve always considered my life richer for having known them.

            • jazzlover

              Yes, growing up in NY, I met a lot of survivors. That element of not taking things for granted generally makes people kinder, gentler, more understanding. So I understand what you’re talking about. I just remembered that when I was a kid (before we had a washing machine/dryer), we used to go to a local laundromat. The owner was a concentration camp survivor. I think he may have been from Germany, and he was really introverted. Some kids in the neighborhood used to call him names and always made fun of his “tattoo”. This had to have been when I was about 7 or 8. Anyway, one day, I asked my mother why the kids were making fun of this man. She sat me down and explained what he had to endure to survive, and told me flat out that she never wanted to catch me doing the same as the other kids. It was an important lesson in kindness and understanding for me.

            • pat k

              My first father in law was a survivor. I learned a lot & will not let anyone in my life forget.

            • jazzlover

              We shouldn’t forget. It really is one of the most horrifying low points for humanity. I’m kind of astounded that a lot of the back story (eugenics, etc.) has pretty much been whitewashed out of the American history books.

            • Liberated

              What a beautiful story, I live in Indianapolis and even though it is so much smaller,ignorance is everywhere. People always talk about the “southern hospitality ” I come from a long line of hillbillies, and I will tell you the generosity and kindness shown to me by my Jewish friends was heartfelt and beautiful.
              I was invited for Passover to my friends house and received matzo, she explained to me the story of Passover and how there was no time to leaven the bread. I was probably 7or8 myself. I will always remember that, just think of the contributions our Jewish friends have made to society, there’s too many to mention.

            • jazzlover

              Thank you, and you’re absolutely right about ignorance existing everywhere. There’s plenty in places like NY too, even though the city affords one great exposure to pretty much everything. Greater exposure should mean greater understanding. There’s just so much “noise” out there — hatred for this, hatred for that. I honestly don’t see racism, for instance, disappearing anytime soon. I wish I were wrong.

            • Liberated

              I see it too, my friend.

            • jazzlover

              It occurs to me that kids today see things in a different way because of that. Everybody’s focused on suspicion. I try to teach my kids that it costs nothing to be kind to others, and sometimes when I’m with them, I’ll start a conversation with a stranger or offer help to a stranger if I see they can use it. All I get is “That’s so weird, dad. Why would you do that?” For some reason, they’re not seeing it as perfectly normal. I can’t help but think that this is just the world we live in now. Sad.

            • JJ

              I talk to total strangers but usually only women, Never under estimate the fear thing. But it is weird, i have always figured today’s kids were way hay more open minded than Gen X (mine) They seem less homophobia and interracial kids do it quite as bad as say 25 years ago? Are they too insular from internet or is it violence, I can not imagine how a kid sees the world since 9 11 if that is they never knew the world without it?

            • jazzlover

              Mine were born shortly before it, but not far enough before to have made a difference. You could be right that my kids see my willingness to talk to strangers as weird because they consider it risky in some way. I mean, it’s not like I’m embarrassing them with kooky behavior. I’m just being friendly. It is an odd paradox given that they are less affected by homophobia and racial profiling than kids of the past.

            • JJ

              Then I really don’t get it? Well it could be a “Daaad??” thing… And are you in a big city? That affects it too.

            • jazzlover

              It probably is a dad thing. Kids have a way of being embarrassed by the smallest things. Next time my daughter asks me to go into a store with her because she’s too shy to do it alone, maybe I will teach her what embarrassment really means 😉

            • JJ

              Dude you better start putting money in the car or therapy fund. That is premeditated parental embarrassment!

            • jazzlover

              Ha! I’m a ballbuster at heart.

            • JJ

              It has to ,science will win out, race is a made up concept, we all came from the same place we are all related, if you go far enough back. Culture can just be, it doesn’t have to equate value judgements and bias, we choose that and usually out of fear, greed, ignorance. Your right…it is not going away…

            • jazzlover

              I think you just answered your own question. Science will win out only when it is not interrupted by fear, greed and ignorance. Is that possible? Maybe. But not today. Look at all the focus and paranoia about world markets, job markets, retirement funding, healthcare, etc. People are distracted by a ton of stuff.

            • JJ

              Distraction math gets dangerous when it takes aim and finds a target, if it’s the “thoughtless richies” hording it all or the “damn immigrants” stealing it all or some other identifiable, label ready group we can blame for our own lack of the dwindling resources… Watch out. We will truly be re learning the lessons of the past.

            • jazzlover

              That’s called “bad history”. I was just thinking about this the other day. In America we’ve always been told that we’re the most powerful nation on earth. Well, if Trump is elected, for the first time, we may just have to prove it. That’s scary.

            • JJ

              It’s gotta be in-relation to and at what? I think we became a world power in the wake of WWII while Europe was in ashes, and we have had the location to avoid a lot of issues that plague smaller nations, and we are a big country and we did get a lot of major growth from slave labor for the first hundred years or so… I like America but I don’t think it is perfect, a lot of people who come here are coming from truly unsafe places where going shopping on Tuesday could kill you. Perspective.

            • JJ

              And I don’t know if we can be great enough to survive the mishandle that would follow such an election. Scary.

            • jazzlover

              What I meant was that Trump could piss off the wrong schizophrenic world leader and then we’d staring down the front end of an ICBM or something.

            • JJ

              Exactly. Can he talk his way out of an argument with someone more mental unbalanced holding an arsenal and inclined to use it.

            • JJ

              It is a leveling thought but in the 80’s we worried about the Russian and hope they love their children too. Now we have fanatical North Koreans who know nothing else and fundamentalist Islamic terrorists who don’t care if they die so long as they make their point. MAD. Mutually Assured Destruction will not work with someone who thinks living isn’t the main goal. That it is good enough to die for the cause… or fifty seven male and female virgins waiting on the other side.

    • TexasBroad

      I posted a flower from my garden above, wandered off and came back to read this glorious thread – THIS is why I love the Bunker….a simple comment about a bi-plane led into all of this below!

      • JJ

        I know, then I worry how off topic can we get before someone has to mention something about DM shoe size…?

    • Missionary Kid

      New or restored? Round or flat engine?
      There’s a lot of 70+ year old biplanes that are absolutely pristine, and in better shape than when they came off the production line.

      • JJ

        That is just the thing, this was unlike any I have seen before, I am thinking new. The look I got, almost head on, it had very long wings, all white grey, smooth no detail. the fuseloge looked unusually slim as well. the wings also looked closer together the whole thing looked like a longer thinner, tighter version of the familiar chunky looking Bi planes. The wings were also ridiculously straight. This has got to be some one’s new toy, how new I am not sure.

        The engine was hard to make out the nose was really tapered.

        Love bi planes, you know that stupid: If I won the lottery list, there’s mine, private pool, bi plane.

        • Missionary Kid

          Since I look at airplanes all the time, I can usually tell what kind it is.

          Biplanes have some advantages over monoplanes, but in terms of modern designed planes, monoplanes are more efficient, but efficiency isn’t the only criteria for having a plane.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    If you saw that “Jason Bateman is an Anti-CO$ Bigot” Facebook rant that I posted earlier: https://disqus.com/home/discussion/theundergrondbunker/jamie_dewolf_and_leah_remini_each_working_on_separate_tv_series_about_scientology/#comment-2753396166 , you might be interested in the comments she got on it. I’m surprised it hasn’t been deleted yet. I like the “sheeple” comment and the MENSA members who blame it on the editing. HA! Enjoy!
    (refresh)

    • JaxNGold

      Don’t even know where to start with this. Each poster is more imbecilic and delusional than the last.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I hate to say it, but if this is the caliber of the folks who will be popping up on the future SMP Channel… like a trainwreck, I won’t be able to not look.

        • JaxNGold

          Seriously. It’s frightening. One is claiming people shouldn’t “listen to the lies and should think for themselves” (that’s beyond rich right there); another claiming “people can’t disrespect someone’s beliefs” (as if they actually believe they have a right not to be offended or made fun of); and yet another claiming something like “we’ll be redeemed” or some such shit. Incredible.

          • Supper Powers

            It’s a movie! They say it like he said it during an interview with Seth Myers. They cannot seperately reality from fiction.

  • JJ

    This one is funny. I am reading an article on Narcissists from a 2013 Huffington and down the list of very likely traits and signs the end line for 6 is:

    Do they have an unrealistic belief in their own abilities? A
    true narcissist will self-mythologize, over-exaggerating or even lying
    about their talents. Being frequently convinced of their own powers of
    influence, narcissists often manage to readily convince people of their
    lies (think Californian cult leader).

  • JJ

    IF the fires got to Hemet, and knowing the Tech is safe in impenetrable nuclear bomb proof storage…You have fifteen minutes to get out. What does David Miscavige take with him?…

    • Dave In Ajax

      well obviously a case of scotch

      • JJ

        Dude,do you know how flammable that is. Why not grab a handful of the flaming chaparral to carry with you as you book it down the drive way…!

        • Dave In Ajax

          forgive my Canadian ignorance I don’t even know what chaparral is?? 🙂

          • JJ

            I got to look up my spelling, I am thinking it is the scrub that grows along the hills you see in pics of So California. It has a resin in it’s leaves and branches that is more flammable that jet fuel practically…

            • JJ

              : a thicket of dwarf evergreen oaks; broadly : a dense impenetrable thicket of shrubs or dwarf trees.

              that is Merriam Websters.

            • JJ

              And I can’t find data on it’s flammability, it is gonna ruin my jokes if it isn’t true!

            • Missionary Kid

              It’s flammable as hell. It’s a little hard to start, but with a wind blowing, you might as well have a pitch-covered torch. Blue gum eucalyptus is, IIRC, similar in flammability. Unfortunately, there are many marvelous eucalyptus trees, but the variety that got imported to California and spread is the blue gum eucalyptus (Eucalyptus globulus). It is nasty, smells, drops bark and seeds all over the place, kills grass, and is an extreme fire hazard.

            • MadMaxi

              From Wikipedia:

              “In its natural state, chaparral is characterized by infrequent fires,
              with intervals ranging between 10–15 years to over a hundred years.
              Mature chaparral (stands that have been allowed greater intervals
              between fires) is characterized by nearly impenetrable, dense thickets
              (except the more open chaparral of the desert). These plants are highly
              flammable. They grow as woody shrubs with hard and small leaves, are
              non-leaf-dropping (non-deciduous),
              and are drought-tolerant. After the first rains following a fire, the
              landscape is dominated by soft-leaved non-woody annual plants, known as
              fire followers, which die back with the summer dry period.”

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaparral

            • JJ

              Ta. I knew it was there somewhere. And it is flammable. So it’s funny, but timing on the internet is not conducive to comedy!

          • JJ

            I am sorry I snapped at you Dave I was trying to be funny but it won’t work on line. It is stupid to ask a question and then snap at someone for the answer. And you are probably right, but god I hope DM would at least take his beagles first!

        • Missionary Kid

          The scotch is only flammable if you let it out of the bottle.

          • JJ

            We’re thinking he wouldn’t have an open container with him?…

            • Missionary Kid

              Unfortunately, even an open container is slow to catch fire. A spill is what really burns.

    • Harmless Weirdo

      Just the essentials: The lifts for his shoes, a can of spray tan, a carton of smokes, and his oldest case of Scotch. And then he roars away on his favorite motorcycle, after barking orders at everyone left on base to project intention into the fire until it goes out.

  • TexasBroad

    OT…spent 10 hrs in my very neglected garden yesterday. With the rain, it has thrived despite my lack of attention. Caught this shot and wanted to share. I have a plant problem. I have too many and still I want more.

    • JJ

      There are worse problems to have! Caring for living things (and I don’t mean forty cats in a two bedroom home) and helping them grow is a good thing….

      • TexasBroad

        Of all my problems, this is my favorite. 🙂

    • JJ

      Gorgeous, pretty sure that won’t grow here, we are in the weed belt of Washington State.

      • Juicer77

        LOL Hey we have that on the east coast, too!

    • Juicer77

      So beautiful. I can smell the flowers from here. Plumeria?

      • TexasBroad

        Plumeria, yes. 1 of 4. Here is the white one – The other two haven’t bloomed yet so the color will be a surprise.

        • JJ

          Oh Man!

        • Juicer77

          *sniff sniff sniff* 🙂 Thank you!

          • JJ

            scratch and sniff computer screen good invention!

            • TexasBroad

              As long as you would have to scratch to sniff…there is plenty on the internet that I wouldn’t want to smell!!

        • Snippy_X

          Wow – never saw anything like that. Can you eat them? I want to eat it.

          • TexasBroad

            They are often used as garnish in cocktails…the petals are edible but the rest is poisonous. The pretty, showy part is okay but it might kill you if you go too far. There is a scientology analogy there but it’s bedtime and I can’t completely flush it out. Goodnight Bunker.

        • flyonthewall

          they’re giant! How tall is that, 10-12ft??

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I love Pink Frangipani. They usually do terrific when neglected.

      • TexasBroad

        I hadn’t seen that name, but google results show Frangipani with Plumeria…same thing or just similar? They hold up to our heat (today, all Houstonians melted. Was it on the news?) and then we just throw them in the garage for the winter ..if what we have qualifies for winter.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          They are the same thing, just an Aussie name for them.
          They love the heat here too and lack of rain and then drop their leaves for the mild winter.

          • Ella Raitch

            Too cold where I am for frangipanis – obviously OK in Adelaide?

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Yeah. We don’t drop below about 2degrees in winter at night. Never snows here.

        • Ella Raitch

          Frangipani is the common name in Australia

          • Juicer77

            Learning something new every day! 🙂

    • Baby

      Damn Broad..Gorgeous..wow..

    • flyonthewall

      more giant plants!!

  • Baby

    I went to the County Website for Pinellas County.. I can’t figure it out.. ugh.. Gobbleygook to me.

    Does anyone know if you can Picket the Pizza Joint for not serving Mark?

    • Well sure you can. This is a free country (except for Clamwater Florida).
      But be prepared for an onslaught of clams and clammy behavior..
      I wouldn’t think that its worth it, not just because of that, but because it would have no effect.
      99.99% of his business is clams. They won’t stop going there because you picket.
      Who’s your audience? Them.
      You might get a little publicity in the local media, but then again, it won’t have any effect on his business.
      Mark is the one who can utilize his legal remedies if he chooses to do so.
      There may be other on-line things you can do, not that I have any particular ideas in that regard.

      • Baby

        You are right.. sigh.. I guess I will just have to stick out my tongue when I pass his NonPizza joint.

      • ithilien

        This is an interesting discussion to me because it exemplifies how exes have a sort of ingrained passivity. And they exercise and parade it. They propose some kind of pie in the sky action (here picketimg the pizza man) and then quickly talk themselves or each oher down. Just a little fantasy talk. Not that anyone would have done anything, its just a sort of little dance i ve observed. All the reasons why you shouldnt rock the boat always get listed. Even for something everyone knows wasnt gonna happen. Trained in.

        Watching the video almost gave me a seizure. Is this the camera he got with the go fund me? What happened to it? Almost such poor qualiy it made me think it shouldnt have been posted. But i stayed for The discussion with the PI. It was imtriguing, then i started to wonder f it was a set up. Didnt think a PI would be so conversant, or want to be videoed. I’ll have to ask that Bunkerite who went to ‘detective school’ about best PI practices. bunker lost the thread of his own argument and i bailed

        DM havin some security issues. And this is really tripping, but was the whole weird building openings just a ruse to get bunker arrested? Setting up all those people on the street for him is so bizarre. Do They have any idea how they look to the world?

    • Keep telling the No-Pizza-Man, that he should deliver a Free Pizza to Mark Bunker @XENUTV or order a delivery of Pizza to Mark Bunker. Even online or call them. Make sure the No-Pizza-Man will know who Mark Bunker is until he dream about Mark Bunker. It all about Mark Bunker! Mark Bunker! We will not forget!

      • Well let’s not bring down heavy retaliation upon Mr. Bunker.

        • not sure what you are referring to! The no-pizza-man did not know who Mark Bunker was. Mark Bunker is trying to get known by his name!

      • Baby

        I won’t forget Dice.. I can’t stand that guy..ugh..If I were Mark..I’d never eat pizza made by that sleaze ball..

        I worked in kitchens..I know what goes on..

  • Here’s a fairly detailed look into Narconon’s use of Google Maps and reviews:
    Scientology Seeks Captive Converts Via Google Maps, Drug Rehab Centers
    https://krebsonsecurity.com/2016/06/scientology-seeks-captive-converts-via-google-maps-drug-rehab-centers/

  • F5

    • Rasha

      I have to question a list that includes atheism in a list of religions/spiritual groups.

    • TexasBroad

      37% neutral? There is work to be done.

      • Yep! That was around when anonymous started, but not sure before or after!

  • Just found a way to review Scientology in Plymouth F5

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Thanks Jesse. You have so many interesting tales, can’t wait for when your book does finally come out.

  • richelieu jr

    I have thought for a while that it might be interesting and useful to have links to little profiles of key and recurring figures in the world of Scintology Antics and the struggle to end its abuses, somewhat like the Lexicon on some other sites, and a cousin to the ‘Top Ten People Working to Destroy Scientology’ or what ever you called it back on the Village Voice.

    It might take some time to set up, but think of the time and effort saved not having to give similar (bit not sosmimilar as to be painfully boring to reread) introductions to notable figures on team Xenu ad those manning the shabby, Ba’ath Party that has gone on too long, ramparts.

    Just a suggestion.

    I do have a question though, Tony. You made it pretty clear that you are ethically (if not legally)) required to keep juicy details to a minimum , both for the project you ‘consulted’ on (gotta love that term -especially your use of it: Ithas to be the most vague, Ill-defined position since ‘Associate Producer’ or whatever that cowardly scoundrel and hand-me -down second-hand sadist, Tommy Davis…

    So, I was wondering (probably for a pretty good moment), why these things (and I count four from where I sit, not including mine (no movement except when I kick it) nor Mark Bunker’s or “I Married A Scilon Movie Star ‘Movie” by’Louie Louie Movie Movie) not being discussed here (in fact, in a recent chat with an Ozzie dépend of mine (They can be. quitte witty and civilized if you catch them when they are young. Kind of like Republicans, if you get them before they turn 13 and start developing new feelings and getting all Ayn Randy, if you can snatch them unjust before they go all out on a Limbaugh.. )But I digress…)

    He told me he didn’t believe the TV stuff was happening, because (wait for it!)….

    …….. He hadn’t HEARD IT ON THE BUNKER!!!

    Listen, I am no kid. I’ve been around the block (both kicked and of my own volition) enough to wear down the corners a bit and for it to start looking more like a pole in the desert. I even got a certificate signed by a by-golly, certified, Real Deal LRH signature impersonator– (but he did it in Gold Pen, so you know it’s gotta be legit)!

    And I thought I gave me the right to dish right here on the Bunker, but now I’m not so sure…
    Do you get pushback for comments from the peanut Gallery?
    If so, do you. care?

    P,

    Red

  • Jen

    Go Leah! I’m looking forward to watching her new show and the other anti-Scientology show mentioned too. I hope that more people not just celebrities will follow her lead and leave this crazy cult. What they do to families is awful and the worst is their homophobia and how they try to cure people’s gayness. It makes me so sad that someone like Laura Prepon who is a gay icon thanks to Orange is the New Black is such a prominent member of it knowing of their extreme homophobia. Hopefully she too will make like Leah and leave the craziness far behind.

  • Prim

    The store just hit Huffington Post
    Leah Remini To Piss Off Tom Cruise For An Eternity With Reported Scientology Series

  • ithilien

    Amazing to see the freewinds show. Old white crowd. Must have been earsplittingly loud. Crowd sitting absolutely still, a few future SPs ducking out.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Bunker and Pizza (or not)… what fun! 🙂