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SCIENTOLOGY SPIED ON JIM CARREY TO GET HIM ON ‘PURIF,’ SAYS FORMER EXEC

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[Jim Carrey in 2001, appearing in America: A Tribute to Heroes]

 
One of our most reliable sources, former Scientology executive Claire Headley, tells the Underground Bunker that in 2001 she was personally involved in a high-level project to entice actor Jim Carrey to begin taking Scientology courses, a project that not only involved the now-disappeared wife of Scientology’s leader, but it also made use of a spy in Carrey’s personal life.

Scientology and Jim Carrey are currently in the news after we broke a story on Wednesday that Carrey’s girlfriend Cathriona White, who took her own life last week, had been a Scientologist. According to one report, her involvement in the controversial organization had become an issue in her relationship with the actor.

White left Ireland for California in 2009 and about a year later became involved in Scientology through its Hollywood Celebrity Centre. In 2012, she met Jim Carrey and began dating him, and her friends tell us that Carrey was aware of her involvement in the church. After about five months they broke up, but then earlier this year they started dating again. By then, our sources say, Cathriona had been paired with a Scientology actor, Travis Case, as her “twin,” and she had completed Scientology’s grueling “Purification Rundown” and had begun her “objectives,” part of a course called the “Survival Rundown.” She stalled on the course, we’re told, and then, after Carrey reportedly broke up with her on September 24, she took her own life, and was discovered on September 28 by friends.

On Sunday, we described the group of young Scientologists who had befriended Cathriona after she arrived in California and encouraged her to begin taking courses at the Celebrity Centre. After we published that story, we heard from numerous former Scientologists who had known Jenny Burpee, Josh Shultz, and the other young church members. Burpee, they pointed out, spent several years as a Sea Org member at Scientology’s Advanced Organization Los Angeles (AOLA), and would have been thoroughly trained in Scientology’s many policies regarding membership and outsiders.

 
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[Jenny Burpee with Cat White, from Burpee’s Instagram account]

 
At the minimum, former Scientology’s former spokesman Mike Rinder tells us, Cathriona would have been called down to be questioned by Scientology ethics officers once it became known that she was dating Carrey, a comedian who had ridiculed Scientology in the 1990s.

And now, Claire Headley says that Scientology’s interest in Jim Carrey was even more overt. She says that in 2001, Scientology launched a major effort to get him in, fueled by the news that Carrey was thinking seriously of trying out the Purification Rundown.

Despite his earlier jokes about Scientology, by 2001 Carrey had become interested in what the “Purif” — Scientology’s vaunted “detoxification” program of sauna use and massive niacin intake — might do for him. Headley says Scientology knew this because it had someone very close to Carrey who was feeding the church information, a standard Scientology method.

Claire says she found out about it from Shelly Miscavige, wife to the leader of Scientology, David Miscavige. Shelly was a hard-as-nails executive in her own right, and had the power, as an officer in the Religious Technology Center, the nominally controlling entity of the church, to run complex operations. Claire also worked in RTC, an elite inner group in Scientology’s “Sea Organization” that worked out of the secretive international base near Hemet, California, about 90 miles east of Los Angeles.

“Shelly said that Jim Carrey was considering doing the Purif, but she’d been told by the inside source feeding them info that there was a problem,” Claire tells us. We asked her how Shelly described the problem.

“Jim Carrey’s interested in doing the Purif, but he’s on psych drugs,” she remembers Shelly saying.

Scientology demonizes psychiatry and, in particular, anti-depressants and other “psych drugs,” and it would be forbidden for someone taking such drugs to participate in any Scientology course, let alone the “Purif,” which supposedly cleanses the body of such substances.

But Claire says that Shelly was so interested in convincing Carrey to start the sauna regimen, she charged Claire with researching everything Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard had said about the process, hoping to find a loophole.

 
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[Shelly Miscavige, circa 1990. Photo by Claudio and Renata Lugli]

 
“Shelly had me do a big research project, and it was all about the Purif and psych drugs. I was looking through Hubbard’s ‘advices’ on the Purif, sending Shelly quotes. I got the impression that she was looking for a justification to allow Jim Carrey to keep taking drugs while he started the Purif, just so they could hook him in,” she says.

Claire says she was surprised that Shelly had such detailed inside information about Carrey. “That’s pretty private stuff. So I knew that someone pretty close to him was getting information out to us. I don’t know who that was,” she says.

Later, Carrey would go public with his dissatisfaction with Prozac, a drug he said he’d been on for years to treat depression. He told 60 Minutes in 2004 that he’d weaned himself off of the drug and was able to replace it with “spirituality.”

That might explain why, in 2001, Carrey was thinking of trying out Scientology’s methods, but wasn’t ready yet to stop taking meds altogether.

Claire Headley says that at the time, Shelly Miscavige was focused on bringing two big stars into Scientology’s celebrity-hungry culture: Carrey, and Nicolas Cage.

“I knew Shelly was also working with [Scientology executive] Greg Wilhere on Nicolas Cage. She was trying to arrange for Greg to do some auditing with Jim Carrey. I don’t know if that ever happened, but I do know they were very actively trying to get him hooked in,” she says. “I know that Cage did a bunch of auditing with Greg. I don’t know just how far they got, but I do know that Greg would go off base for a while, and it was all a mystery, and we’d get small bits of information. But I know that Cage was getting auditing.”

A year later, in 2002, Nicolas Cage married Lisa Marie Presley, who was then an active member of Scientology. They filed for divorce just three months later. Viewers of the movie Going Clear will remember Wilhere as the Sea Org official who in late 2004 prepared Nazanin Boniadi for her role as Tom Cruise’s girlfriend.

 
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[Greg Wilhere]

 
Carrey, however, remained a fish that got away. And within a few years, things changed in a big way for Claire and her boss.

Early in 2005, Claire escaped from the base after her husband, Marc Headley, made his own mad dash for freedom, which he describes in his 2009 book Blown for Good. Then, in late August or early September, according to our eyewitnesses at Int Base, Shelly herself suddenly left.

It’s now been ten years since Shelly suddenly disappeared, banished to an even more secretive Scientology compound in the mountains above Los Angeles after she apparently fell out of favor with her own husband. Except for a couple of days in the summer of 2007 to attend the funeral of her father, Shelly Miscavige has not been seen in public or at Int Base or other less secret Scientology facilities or events. Multiple lines of evidence convince us that she’s been held for the past decade at the small Church of Spiritual Technology headquarters compound near Lake Arrowhead, California. CST is the most secretive of Scientology’s many entities, and the one that’s charged with digging bomb-proof vaults for storing L. Ron Hubbard’s words and lectures so that they can survive a nuclear holocaust. Shelly has been reportedly working on the project ever since, and is likely resigned to her fate.

We asked Claire if, based on Scientology’s efforts to bring Jim Carrey in more than a decade ago, the church might have considered using Cathriona White to make another attempt at landing him.

“Honestly, I wouldn’t put anything past them in that regards,” she says. “We know that they’re getting desperate, and one of the few things they can do is get some more celebrities in. That’s always been one of their massive hooks to get people in. They tried it in the past, and they would do it again,” she says.

 
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[Claire and Marc Headley now live in Colorado with their three young boys.]

 
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Melbourne venue announced, and tickets going FAST

Hey, our Australia events are coming up quickly, and we’re getting pretty excited about it. Yesterday, our Melbourne venue was finally revealed when the Wheeler Centre announced that it was hosting our talk on October 25, and with ABC journalist Steve Cannane. The Wheeler Centre is at 176 Little Lonsdale Street, our event will take place at 3 pm (it’s a Sunday) and tickets are free. But grab them quick. Steve emailed us last night and said 250 seats are already spoken for!

We’re starting our tour in Sydney on Friday night October 23 at the Giant Dwarf Theater, a premiere venue that will be filming us, so there’s a door charge. Kickass Australian TV journalists Steve Cannane and Bryan Seymour will both join us on stage. (Unfortunately, Senator Nick Xenophon’s schedule prevents him from attending, but he’ll join us in his home district in Adelaide on October 28.)

Now, if we could just get some word of what’s happening in Perth. We think a venue is close to being secured!

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Hanging with Ronaldo in Mexico…

 
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Bodhi Elfman posted this, calling his wife Jenna and mother Rhonda his “power chicas.” So it doesn’t look like the rumor that he’d disconnected from his mother turned out to be true. Any of our insiders know the full story?

 
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Get a load of this poster in the BogotΓ‘ Ideal Org: “What can Scientology do for you?” Ha, ha! What can Scientology do for YOU? You mean, how many more toilets can you clean with your tongue and then thank Scientology for taking in your miserable thetan ass for the next billion years? Start writing that check, you pathetic worm!

 
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BOOK NOTES
3D-Unbreakable

We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Tony Ortega’s upcoming appearances (and check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour)…

 
Oct 23: Sydney, Giant Dwarf Theatre (with Steve Cannane and Bryan Seymour)

Oct 25: Melbourne, The Wheeler Centre, 3 pm, free but reservations recommended (with Steve Cannane)

Oct 28: Adelaide, Wheatsheaf Hotel, (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 30: Perth

Past dates: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24), Phoenix (9/15), Cleveland (9/23), Minneapolis (9/24), Portland (9/27), Seattle (9/28), Vancouver BC (9/29)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 6, 2015 at 07:00

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SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

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The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill
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  • Edward Whalley

    1st post!!

    • Miss Tia

      First post for Edward
      Congratulations to you
      This haiku’s your prize

      • Watcher

        Miss Tia’s talent
        For spontaneous haikus
        Is so amazing.

        (Sorry mine is not as good.)

        • Miss Tia

          awww……thank you Watcher!! And that is a lovely well done haiku!!

          • Watcher

            LOL! It took me way over ten minutes.

            • Ella Raitch

              You need both hands to count the syllables in that middle line!

        • Ella Raitch

          Can you get a black belt in haiku? Miss Tia has surely earned it

    • Edward Clarke

      I’m considered to be an evil Edward, so you can be the nice Edward.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Congrats. You get a cupcake and a free copy of the way to happiness, and a voucher for a personality test.

    • Sergeant Pepper

      A sibilant yessssss
      Asparagus Valley style
      For Edward’s first post.

      *doffs hat to Miss Tia*

    • For future reference it’s considered good form to let Panopea have the first post in the comments here so that Red X always appears at the top

      • Edward Whalley

        Alright….snif….

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X
    A very good morning to all,
    As Robert Eckert pointed out, there was a time when their ads were in the thousands.
    Heh heh, times are tough in the clam-beds, and the tide keeps going out.
    Our Red-X rakes are out too – happy harvesting.

    We take their bait and switch fraudulent ads down. Join us.
    Two ways – Flag them (Red-X) and via a complaint to CL
    RedX tips & Complaints procedure are now included in the google doc under the RedXTips tab.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Tick Tock, Dave
    Time to Gogh

    • SarahDB

      Morning Pan, awesome kitteh! Just wanted to share one of the more bizarre CL ads I flagged this morning in Boston, can’t figure out what it actually means (and when you click on the ad it shows Quincy, a city south of Boston where the local org is hunkered down trying to find the money to go ideal…ha!)

      Helping Other People (Boston)

      Help is a huge subject.

      Some people can help, yet cannot receive help. Some cannot receive help,
      yet can help. Some cannot do either. And healthy individuals can do
      both.

      Some people cannot stand subject of help, they go insane just hearing
      the word. Some can only help by betraying other people. Some will do
      anything terrible in the name of help.

      If you think you are the latter please don’t write to me. If you are the former, your whole universe will change.

      • SarahDB
      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        “Some people can help, yet cannot receive help. Some cannot receive help,yet can help.”

        But…what?

        • SarahDB

          IKR? bizarre!!

      • pluvo

        Excerpt from an article by Michael Leonard Tilse about how the ‘help button’ is used in Scn.:

        “… Some times their communication is only feigned so as to make it appear they are really interested in you, when really they are intent on doing the drill to get you “in.”
        One thing used is the steps of “help”, “control”, “communication” and “interest”. First will come a discussion or mention of “help” and how people should be helped. And of course it is hard to disagree with that. …”

        http://www.xenu-directory.net/accounts/tilse20030928.html

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        WTF?

      • Robert Eckert

        Almost Hubbardian. Maybe Miscavige should recruit this copywriter to compose OT IX and X.

    • Robert Eckert

      Elsewhere in the Boston Craigslist ads:

      Posted: 12 days agoprint

      I met you in the rain on the last day of 1972 – m4w (Old State House)Massachusett : Massachusetts

      I met you in the rain on the last day of 1972, the same day I resolved to kill myself.

      One week prior, at the behest of Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger, I’d flown four B-52 sorties over Hanoi. I dropped forty-eight bombs. How many homes I destroyed, how many lives I ended, I’ll never know. But in the eyes of my superiors, I had served my country honorably, and I was thusly discharged with such distinction.

      And so on the morning of that New Year’s Eve, I found myself in a barren studio apartment on Beacon and Hereford with a fifth of Tennessee rye and the pang of shame permeating the recesses of my soul. When the bottle was empty, I made for the door and vowed, upon returning, that I would retrieve the Smith & Wesson Model 15 from the closet and give myself the discharge I deserved.

      I walked for hours. I looped around the Fenway before snaking back past Symphony Hall and up to Trinity Church. Then I roamed through the Common, scaled the hill with its golden dome, and meandered into that charming labyrinth divided by Hanover Street. By the time I reached the waterfront, a charcoal sky had opened and a drizzle became a shower. That shower soon gave way to a deluge. While the other pedestrians darted for awnings and lobbies, I trudged into the rain. I suppose I thought, or rather hoped, that it might wash away the patina of guilt that had coagulated around my heart. It didn’t, of course, so I started back to the apartment.

      And then I saw you.

      You’d taken shelter under the balcony of the Old State House. You were wearing a teal ball gown, which appeared to me both regal and ridiculous. Your brown hair was matted to the right side of your face, and a galaxy of freckles dusted your shoulders. I’d never seen anything so beautiful.

      When I joined you under the balcony, you looked at me with your big green eyes, and I could tell that you’d been crying. I asked if you were okay. You said you’d been better. I asked if you’d like to have a cup of coffee. You said only if I would join you. Before I could smile, you snatched my hand and led me on a dash through Downtown Crossing and into Neisner’s.

      We sat at the counter of that five and dime and talked like old friends. We laughed as easily as we lamented, and you confessed over pecan pie that you were engaged to a man you didn’t love, a banker from some line of Boston nobility. A Cabot, or maybe a Chaffee. Either way, his parents were hosting a soirée to ring in the New Year, hence the dress.

      For my part, I shared more of myself than I could have imagined possible at that time. I didn’t mention Vietnam, but I got the sense that you could see there was a war waging inside me. Still, your eyes offered no pity, and I loved you for it.

      After an hour or so, I excused myself to use the restroom. I remember consulting my reflection in the mirror. Wondering if I should kiss you, if I should tell you what I’d done from the cockpit of that bomber a week before, if I should return to the Smith & Wesson that waited for me. I decided, ultimately, that I was unworthy of the resuscitation this stranger in the teal ball gown had given me, and to turn my back on such sweet serendipity would be the real disgrace.

      On the way back to the counter, my heart thumped in my chest like an angry judge’s gavel, and a future — our future — flickered in my mind. But when I reached the stools, you were gone. No phone number. No note. Nothing.

      As strangely as our union had begun, so too had it ended. I was devastated. I went back to Neisner’s every day for a year, but I never saw you again. Ironically, the torture of your abandonment seemed to swallow my self-loathing, and the prospect of suicide was suddenly less appealing than the prospect of discovering what had happened in that restaurant. The truth is I never really stopped wondering.

      I’m an old man now, and only recently did I recount this story to someone for the first time, a friend from the VFW. He suggested I look for you on Facebook. I told him I didn’t know anything about Facebook, and all I knew about you was your first name and that you had lived in Boston once. And even if by some miracle I happened upon your profile, I’m not sure I would recognize you. Time is cruel that way.

      This same friend has a particularly sentimental daughter. She’s the one who led me here to Craigslist and these Missed Connections. But as I cast this virtual coin into the wishing well of the cosmos, it occurs to me, after a million what-ifs and a lifetime of lost sleep, that our connection wasn’t missed at all.

      You see, in these intervening forty-two years I’ve lived a good life. I’ve loved a good woman. I’ve raised a good man. I’ve seen the world. And I’ve forgiven myself. And you were the source of all of it. You breathed your spirit into my lungs one rainy afternoon, and you can’t possibly imagine my gratitude.

      I have hard days, too. My wife passed four years ago. My son, the year after. I cry a lot. Sometimes from the loneliness, sometimes I don’t know why. Sometimes I can still smell the smoke over Hanoi. And then, a few dozen times a year, I’ll receive a gift. The sky will glower, and the clouds will hide the sun, and the rain will begin to fall. And I’ll remember.

      So wherever you’ve been, wherever you are, and wherever you’re going, know this: you’re with me still.

      do NOT contact me with unsolicited services or offers

      post id: 5237173491

      posted:

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Wow. Beautiful and uplifting.

  • Sookie Sookie

    I wonder if this is the first time Jim Carrey’s hearing that someone close to him was feeding info to Scientology in 2001?

    To me, it seems unlikely that he’d date someone involved in it now, if he knew that the organization had so invaded his privacy once before.

    • Miss Tia

      Yeah, that would be interesting to know but I doubt we’ll ever find that out; but that’s a good point that he probably wouldn’t be involved with someone in the church if he knew they had spied on him before.

    • MrsLurksALot

      I doubt he knew….

      • chukicita

        I doubt it, too. Look how long it took Paulette to find out!

        • MrsLurksALot

          Exactly!

  • MrsLurksALot

    Good morning, Bunker. Haven’t been able to post a lot lately (and in foreseeable future, ugh) but I’ve been lurking when possible. Just wanted to say “hi” and touch base with you all. This story keeps breaking my heart, but leave it to Tony to get all the details. Thank you, Tony, you are tireless. Oh, and HowdyCon sounds terrific! When and where?

  • Fascinating. But it makes sense. If Scientology had have been able to land Jim Carrey, it would have given them another famous actor to use as a magnet.

    • BosonStark

      Except for Jim Mucilage — world non-famous Scientology comedian — comedians make a poor target. After all, Scientology is an irresistible to goof on. Come on, Xenu? In general, comedians are also smarter and more mentally unstable than other actors. They aren’t going to buy into “certainty.”

  • Ella Raitch

    I do hope Jim has people he loves and trusts around him as factual revelations and rank speculations rain down around him.

    The last few days would be tough on someone with a cast iron emotional repertoire. For someone with a more fragile sensibility it must be devastating.

    • Miss Tia

      Totally devastating. And after the initial shock wears off in a few weeks is when it’ll probably really start to sink in for him, her family and friends.

    • Observer

      I am not a fan, to put it mildly, but I wouldn’t wish this on anyone. I hope he’s got his therapist on speed dial.

      • Graham

        I’m not a fan either- except for his performance in the Truman Show. Ironic really.

        • salin

          The Truman Show, very ironic indeed.

      • Heidi

        I was a HUGE fan in the 1990s, had t-shirts, sweat-shirts, movie posters, and especially appreciated when he came out with his depression. Career not so hot since then, but this sorta hurts the teenager inside of me.

    • Ben Franklin

      Carey has been on a spiritual path on his own. Listening to Carey speak about spirituality in some of the video clips I have seen, I can only think that he probably tried to help her as he seems to be very in tune with himself.

      • QbirdSP

        In this second vid, he’s talking Course in Miracles ‘speak’ – imo.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        “Compassion is the currency that leads to true wealth.” Nicely put.

      • Kid Kat

        We can all achieve this mindset WITHOUT Co$!

  • Eleventy

    Tickets for Melbourne booked. I wonder if we could interest Tony in having lunch before hand, in the building that used to house the first Australian Church of Scientology?

    • Ella Raitch

      Were you the one mysteriously speculating about the venue a month or so ago? Was this the venue you had in mind>

      As to lunch, that could be a yes, but I also suspect that Tony enjoys a bit of an adult beverage as well..perhaps afterwards?

      • Eleventy

        I was. This wasn’t the venue I had in mind. The Wheeler Centre is much better though. The place I had in mind was the building that housed the first Church of Scientology in Australia. It’s on Spring St and now houses three excellent resturants. The City Wine Bar, The European and The Supper Club.

        • Ella Raitch

          They’d be a great choice for a soiree

    • Iain

      Hi Eleventy, I will be there and hopefully Longtime Lurker? I wish you could tag people on Disqus, don’t know how to contact.
      Anyway I would love to meet any bunker peeps on the day. Reply if interested and I’ll share my email or twitter.

  • Snake Plissken

    How many times can someone redo the cult’s Purification Rundown before they need a liver transplant?

    • 0tessa

      It’s a pity we can’t hire Patty Hewes to file a suit on Narconon for damages.

  • BosonStark

    The cult’s intelligence service, celebrity division, probably has a whole army of bots following around celebrities trying to fuck them into Scientology as part of their standard technology.

    • Ella Raitch

      Hollywood celebrity handlers need to acquaint themselves with
      http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/

      (at least)

    • SuppressedPerson

      Creeper John Alex Wood was trying to get John Cleese’s daughter as a client for his lame azz fake PR company, World Wide PR. This was after he was told to eff off and was banned by Python.

      He claimed he could manage john Cleese’s online presence and make “bucketloads” for the actor and his daughter.

      Naturally he failed miserably. Some people told her who Wood is. And bucketloads of crap is all he could really give anyone. Also, famous people are approached all the time by bogus business offerings from shady characters like Wood.

      But, that’s their mandate. Get celebrities. Get their kids. Worm their way in, any way they can.

      Scary stuff! Especially if they don’t know what they’re dealing with. Sad to think anyoje could fall for Wood’s or Scientology’s bucketloads of garbage, but it does happen, obviously. It just takes a few vulnerable people to get hooked in.

    • pluvo

      I guess that Scn’s new media center (KCET studios in Los Angeles) will not only be used as a propaganda center but also to lure in (young) celebs and wannabe celebs. New celeb-raw-meat replenishment is needed after the migration of some longtime celebs over to the ‘dark side’.

      • BosonStark

        I think that is its main purpose, not dissemination. They want to lure in wannabe actors, writers, and production people.

        Just think of the number of actors who will board that failboat and end up in the Sea Org.

  • anoni81b4u

    πŸ™‚

  • Panopea Abrupta

    DM: putting the “Hole” in “Choleric” since 1960

    Life’s short. So is Dave.

    On Dave’s desk, does he have an IN tray, an OUT tray and a FAR OUT tray?
    An IN THE HOLE tray? That one’s full.
    An “OUT of $cientology” tray? That one’s fuller.

    $cientology: the know-how of knowing how to kow-tow.

    Seen outside a church yesterday:
    “If God had a wallet, your photo would be in it.”
    I mentally added “If $cientology had a wallet, your money would be in it.”

    Hubbard was a friend neither of the Tooth Fairy nor the Truth Fairy.
    For a man who talked a lot about bridges, he didn’t know shit about dentistry.

    $cientology Christmas Party: Don’t sign the Santa Clause
    – the $cientology Santa Claws.

    “Cholera in the Time of Love”
    Unusual and Little-Known Literary Facts

    with our literary correspondent and two-time Pullet Surprise Winner, Cabeza de Vaca

    Nobel-prize winner, Gabriel Garcia Marquez, wrote
    two prophetic novels about David Miscavige.
    “Love in the Time of the Choleric” was about his marriage
    to She-Who-Must-Not-Be-Named and “One Hundred Years
    of Solitude” was about his sentencing, following the
    demise of the cult.

    • Ella Raitch

      One Hundred Years of Solitude SPOILER ALERT

      Maybe the ants (the ants!!!!!) will come and carry Miscavige away like the baby at the end of One Hundred Years of Solitude

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    The stories about Jim Carrey (and Nicholas Cage) are not unexpected but very sad. I wonder who the Scientologists are targeting now?

    • anoni81b4u

      The nation of Islam …
      Anyone else who will listen to their bullshit without laughing directly at them !

    • They had a real good go at Clint Eastwood’s daughter…. and apparently Clint himself a few years before.

      • Ella Raitch

        A jazz playing Eastwood son still had Elisabeth Moss’ dad for an agent when I last looked about 6 months ago

        • The now defunct site scientologycelebrity site had a lot of info on it…. Tyler Shields (photographic artist famous for copying everyone else and burning that $100k handbag) was the main hook in her case.

  • Edward Clarke

    Based on his photo, and what I’ve read about him, that Greg Wilhere bloke strikes me as someone who could replace Miscavige without any moral shift in the organisation. If anything, he looks even more ‘shifty’ and intense.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Based on a photo?

      Sure.

      • villagedianne

        It’s just a photo yes, but it’s truly very creepy.

        ,

  • Heidi

    I was always pretty sure that Jim Carrey would never be sucked into Scientology… this is the closest they could get, and I’m completely convinced they rode that poor Cathriona’s ass about not getting him involved. That’s what they do. Scientology caused her suicide, no doubt in my mind.

  • Narapoid

    The cult was manipulating that poor woman. She had that mission from them to get him involved in the movement and Carrey could tell there was something not right. Something not straight up with Cathriona. I won’t stand for deceitfulness in a relationship and I am certain that Jim Carrey would not either. It killed his trust and that killed the relationship.

    Cathriona trusted her handlers that it would all go OK with her love, and it did not. It broke her heart She had to feel abandoned, betrayed and utterly alone. Likely, she blamed herself.

    There is a concept in the “Tech” of third party. It states, more or less, that the source of trouble between two people comes from a third person that is jealous or just a jerk. It is what PTS is based upon.

    The Cult is the third party to these two.

    • Heidi

      How many times have they done this now?! It’s horrifying.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    As our Antipodean Bunkeroos (and our proprietor, briefly) head
    towards Summer, here the nights are lengthening and there is
    (as I said when my little boy drained the dregs of a found glass)
    a nip in the heir.
    Achoo!

    Breaking News Reuters Oct. 6, 2015

    CLAM FLU CON TROLLED

    with our mental health correspondent, Buddy T. Hetan
    at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, Atlanta, GA

    Recent outbreaks of CSI (Clam Swine Influenza) in Florida and California have been largely brought under
    con troll. They are now primarily con fined to Clearwater and Los Angeles though we do have reports of
    minor loci of infection at Stain Hell in Lost Grimstead, UK and in Sydney, Australia.

    This disease is commonly known as Toothy Cruise Disease even though couch jumping and plane hanging
    are atypical symptoms and should not be the main focus for the diagnostician. In patients who measure 61″
    in their stockinged feet, soiled underwear and a heightened need for scotch are frequently observed. These
    are predicted to worsen by mid-October and reach a paroxysm of intensity in early November.

    Authorities in Germany, France and Belgium have taken con certed steps to eradicate the virus. Independent
    mutations have been reported but they are thought to be far less pathogenic and much weaker strains.
    No signs have been found in Texas and Oklahoma seems set to report a similar finding soon.
    Researchers in Las Vegas, under the aegis of Dr. Ryan Hamilton and in the lab at the Underground Bunker in
    New York, supervised by Dr. Anthony Ortega, seem con fident that an effective vaccine should be available by
    2016.
    An extraordinary history book about DM, The Unlovely Mis – Breakable,, published earlier this year has been effective in providing immunity to many in the meantime and a full-length documentary due for release in a few days should certainly give added protection as will an upcoming autobiography.

    Dr. Chris Shelton, with his critical thinking videos, has also guaranteed immunity to the thousands who have watched them.
    Promising results are also expected from the “Going Clear” vaccine which has been administered to over 10 million people so far and the Emmy Vaccine Committee have approved it resoundingly.
    The Oscar Committee may well follow suit in March 2016.

    “Oat tea and the wallet on fire may deepen the crisis’
    said an unnamed physician who was unwilling to confirm or deny that she works for Big Pharma.

    “It’s a wog eat wog world out there but the touch ass cysts are the worst” said an anonymous sufferer.

    Support groups for those who have lived through the disease are flourishing and there are now vastly more immunized survivors than there are sufferers.

    The disease, a particularly virulent malady, can lead to selective blindness and deafness, a loss of critical thinking ability and to serious loss of fiscal health. Some sufferers, in advanced stages, may lose toes due to footbullets and in those cases
    Tourettes-type symptoms have also been reported. It is seemingly exacerbated by a steady diet of canned food but laughter and joking and degrading are thought to provide a measure of protection.

    The WHO, in its capacity for providing leadership on global health matters, is monitoring clam swine influenza very closely, developing and adjusting appropriate interventions in collaboration with its partners.

    HowdyCon, a muti-disciplinary con-ference is in early planning stages.
    It will NOT be in Columbus, Ohio.

    Other News:

    Donald Rump today denied being a fan of Kool Aid and said he was friendly with many a tea-bag
    drinker. He empathizes with certain imbibers of that substance while not being a tea-bagger himself.

    Sarah Palin said that Alaskan clams were excellent. She shot several recently on a hunting trip near Russia.
    Dick Cheney also had a successful hunting trip – none of his companions were shot or injured.

    Sotheby’s auction of bolt-holes for the well-heeled dictator in the Pharaoh Islands was called “a baron plan” by Karin Puow, the lesser-spotted clam spokesliar, a species believed to be frequently threatened according to the Audubon Society.

    • salin

      All is great, but the description of the advanced stages are divine.

    • TexasBroad

      Brilliant! “Touch ass cysts” will have me chuckling all day!

  • Richard

    Shelly trying to get Carrey on to the purification rundown while on Prozac is a bit like a dietologist getting a patient in to a fat farm while prescribing Sacher cake and Coca Cola.

    • Robert Eckert

      Or getting a new Narconon “student” wasted so that he can be charged for detox.

    • Bert Allen

      No different than the real life Narcanon “counselors” taking new clients to their drug dealers for one last score before starting “treatment.”

      • Robert Eckert

        jinx!

    • Sacher cake works, and it helps people.

  • Ella Snowfury

    The tragic chain of events that led to Cathriona White taking her own life, that we know about at least, are heartbreaking. Having lost a friend to suicide I can only send my deepest sympathies to her family and friends. You never get over something like this. I hope all those who were close to her have as much love and support as they need. And so we see yet another scientologist’s story ending tragically. Is there any other type? Feeling pretty heartsick today.

  • madame duran

    Mornin’ Bunkerites!!
    Had to get a screen cap of today’s countdown because it’s special. Why? Well, according to traditional Chinese belief, the number “8” is a sign of good luck. I counted eight eights (when you include the eights seen in the extended info). Lots of prosperity in store for Theroux’s film…and an INFINITY of hurt for the Cult of Scientology. As it should be.
    YAAAAAASSSSS!!!!!!!! EIGHT DAYS LEFT!!!!!!!!

  • Eivol Ekdal

    And they are still trying…

    • Heidi

      Actually, they can have this one. He’s batshit insane already. Also, bankrupt for spending $ on things like CASTLES. Sad.

      • Watcher

        If he’s bankrupt, they don’t want him.

    • Kim O’Brien

      take him . now . keep him FOREVER

      • sugarplumfairy

        Lol..

    • Who’s he with?

      • Ella Raitch

        Ted Stourton, artist-in-residence, Camelot Castle Hotel

        • ….aaah, that’s too funny!

          • Ella Raitch

            Yeah – it’s a bat shit crazy artiste – and Ted Stourton!

            • Sherbet

              Gazing upon Stourton’s art made Cage’s eyes look even crazier than usual.

  • MM

    Melbourne venue announced, and tickets going FAST

    I hope LongtimeLurker is living up to his name and still ‘lurking’ here, so he doesn’t miss this information.
    *waves to LL*

    • Snuzey

      What happened to him?

      • MM

        From what I remember reading here (I don’t know LL personally) he took a few days off after an exchange of words with another commenter that seemed to have upset him quite a bit, then he re-appeared for a day (the day before the supposed opening of the Inglewood ‘Ideal Org’), and he’s been AWOL ever since.

        • Snuzey

          He was a prolific poster so I guess its inevitable. I liked his stuff though. Maybe he’ll come back. Some people burst on the scene and just burn out.

      • Iain

        Maybe he’s like me and reading the bunker 9 days behind πŸ˜€
        I’ll be there and hope there’s a way to connect with any friendly Bunkeroos!

  • Edward Clarke

    Carrey has a history of ‘breaking rank’ and going public when protocol says he shouldn’t, like disowning Kick-Ass 2 before release.

    If his ex’s death is at least partially caused by Scientology (if even just by preventing her looking for proper help), then all of this other stuff will be adding more fuel to Carrey’s need to go public on these people.

    I don’t expect Jim Carrey to be a silent victim like Tom Cruise’s ex wives. It doesn’t tie in with his nature, nor does he have anything to lose.

    The single biggest thing in what Mike Rinder called the annus horribilis of Scientology might not be Going Clear, it might be Jim Carrey.

    • Kim O’Brien

      if disowning Kick Ass 2 is a form of courage …then i do not think that we should hold our breath. The pills she took from his house after he dumped her are what killed her . This time ..i just don’t think we can lay this one at scientology’s feet . Of course , people will ….but i think scientology has got the PR on their side this time unfortunately . Ugh

      • Edward Clarke

        Disowning *anything* that has cost tens of millions and also paid you (probably) millions is a very risky strategy.

        The last time this happened, via a tweet that was quickly removed, was from the director of the recent Fantastic Four reboot. The fallout over opening weekend from this tweet from a guy no one had heard of was estimated at five million dollars a day.

        Adddd to which, Carrey’s reasons for disowning KA2 were trivial and pathetic in the extreme (it glorified violence he said – he would have to be a moron or a Scientologist to not have that worked out before he signed on to do it). So if he is going to cause chaos over *that*…

        • Kim O’Brien

          i see where you are going ….but i have a feeling he is going to sit this one out . If the woman i dumped who was 25 years younger than me … stole meds from my house and then killed herself ….i would be worried about the cops, getting sued from her family , and trying to live with my own sense of guilt.

          • chukicita

            Not trying to defend Carrey here, but we really don’t yet know how the meds ended up beside her body. Did she steal them? Did he give them to her? Did he leave them at her place? Did someone else place them by her body?

            How many days was it again before authorities were notified by Cat’s bfffff?

            • Kim O’Brien

              if he gave them to her …he is going to be in huge trouble .

            • chukicita

              Just that they were presumably prescribed to him under an alias oughta be enough. Percocet is a controlled substance.

            • Never_In

              On other sites it was mentioned that doctors will sometimes do this legally (use an alias)for celebrities to preserve their privacy. As long as the doctor is aware of who is receiving the medication they are prescribing. So I don’t know that any outsiders have enough information to say if Carrey was doing anything wrong here. I am sure the police are or have looked into how his medication came to be in her possession. Don’t recall who to attribute this quote to, but suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem. I hope anyone contemplating it seeks help and knows they are loved and there is hope.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Yep..

      • villagedianne

        “The pills she took from his house after he dumped her are what killed her .”

        We don’t know when she obtained those pills. Did she have free run of his house after they broke up? Also she had another bottle of pills that were not from Carrey. Scientology as you say may not be responsible for White’s suicide, but neither is Carrey.

        • Kim O’Brien

          i have read reports that she stole them from his home . Pretty big ” fuck you ” to your ex when you take their drugs in order to kill yourself . I just feel so bad for her parents

          • Miss Tia

            it might not have been a fuck you…..if she was suicidal and thought of doing it by pills and knew he had some, it might have been as simple as her getting them from his house…..as i said the other day, if she was determined to attempt suicide and hadn’t gotten the pills she probably would have done it in another manner unfortunately…..

            if he didn’t take them regularly and if they weren’t right out in the open, it would be easy to see how he wouldn’t notice they were missing….i’m sure very very few people know where he keeps medication…..

            • Kim O’Brien

              ugh …suicide is just so awful . So many questions …can you imagine what her family is going through and all of the questions they have ? Just horrible .

            • Ralph Hunter

              Agree, posted something like this before reading your post, Miss Tia.

          • EnthralledObserver

            If that’s true… and the $ci-fuck mind twisting had a good hold with this lady… I’m getting visions of ‘see what these psych drugs can do to you… they can kill you!’ Bizarre, I know, but it popped into my mind.

          • Ralph Hunter

            I don’t think it was fuck you, I think it was an opportunity to steal them that presented itself. And desperation and planning.

        • Robert Eckert

          It’s wrong to blame Carrey, but he’s bound to blame himself. Quite aside from the pill bottles, he’s going to beat himself up about unfortunate things that were said, and so on, things that he imagines he might have been able to do to prevent it.

          • Ella Raitch

            In my make-believe world, where I can set everything right, I would have Leah Remini sent over to hold his hand.

      • sugarplumfairy

        The pills were the weapon.. The weapon never gets indicted.. If she did it, then she did it.. But if she needed treatment for depression and scientology prevented that, then PR or no PR, scientology is responsible..

        • Kim O’Brien

          she was from Ireland . I promise …if she was depressed ..THAT was a big reason why she did not get help . It was ingrained in her LOOOONG before scientology got their hooks into her , that depression is for pussies and to just cheer up , write a poem about misery , and then walk it off

          • villagedianne

            We will really never know. Scientology may have been a factor in feeding into an already ingrained cultural attitude. Whether or not Scientology is responsible for her suicide, it is still a black eye for them. It shows their claims are bogus. Of course internally they are probably saying something like Carrey was PTS to her. Or maybe someone in her Org is now being severely punished for making a “tech” error. But to the un-indoctrinated general public, it’s one more bad story about the Church.

            • Kim O’Brien

              for sure . Whenever there is a scientology connection ….there is always something horrible attached to it . We never see the headline – ” Scientologist went exterior and saved thousands “

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              It happens all the time, but they are too modest to take credit for it.

            • Kim O’Brien

              yup ….a cult full of Jack Bauer clones

            • Ella Raitch

              rofl

            • villagedianne

              Never heard of a Scientologist taking seven bullets either. That guy really saved people.

            • Kim O’Brien

              no kidding !!! Bad ass

            • Mark Foster

              Actually, they would say she was ¨PTS to Carrey¨ and that Carrey was/is ¨PTS to the pyschs¨.
              I know, it kinda amounts to turd classification , but there it is…

            • villagedianne

              I appreciate the clarification, Mark.

      • Ralph Hunter

        Disowning a film might actually take moral courage. It certainly would be a difficult choice with plenty of repercussions. And you can’t possibly blame him if someone steals old pills from his home. Many people who are on medications fail to discard old pills, since they feel they might be of use in the future if prescriptions change. I don’t doubt almost everyone has some old pill bottles rattling around in the back of a drawer, and from what I’ve heard, these were not the narcotics you think are dangerous, but medical drugs. If she was pressured by her sci friends to get Jim in ( which now seems at least as likely than them asking her to break up with him ) she was put under tremendous pressure. She might also suffered from undiagnosed depression, and PTSD from the hypnotism and illogic of the objectives.so sci seems like at least a likely suspect in this death. Let’s say it was an influencing factor.

    • sugarplumfairy

      From your fingertips to jim carrey’s big unfiltered mouth..

    • outraged

      Except that this is such a tragedy for Jim and Cat’s family, I wonder if he will go public at all. He is a VERY private celebrity. At this point, I would be surprised if Carrey comes out in the press against Scientology. We – TONY – needs to do the talking for him, just like we are now.

    • Ralph Hunter

      i love Jim Carey. Ever since the In Living Color days. My son and I still sometimes sign off on phonecalls with ‘ woodchuck to grey squirrel, I’m going home.’ Loved him in the Grinch too. He has the same kind of wid.y inventive humor Robin Williams had. No holds barred. If he needs to speak out about any of the circumstances, I don’t doubt he will.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Tony is there a charge for the Adelaide event? I need to know if I need a ticket and if I can give it away if I can’t attend. It depends on the Doc at the moment.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Jim C tries everything …i watched an episode of ” Comedians in Cars Getting Coffee ” …with Jerry Seinfeld . They guy was on a ” cleanse” so did not have coffee ..and was bouncing off the walls and had crazy eyes …talking about his “life force” and blah blah blah . He is an anti vaccine , goofball Californian who was talented enough to make it as opposed to ending up selling pencils from a cup . And , from reports , it appears that this young woman took the pills that killed her …from Jim C’s house …and he did not even miss them . I don’t know about YOU …but I don’t have so many med’s that if someone took entire bottles of them ..that i would not miss them !

    One of the things that really bums me out …is that ALL the info about scientology is out there. ALL OF IT . And still …people walk into the cult because they do not want to think for themselves .

    • villagedianne

      I don’t know what others may do, but often I do not throw away the unused portion of medication I no longer take. Especially pain medication, because you never know.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i understand …i do the same thing …but one was a blood thinner …you have to take those every day . That is what jumped out at me …

        • Miss Tia

          he could have been on it temporarily for something (i have no idea what) or he could have been switched to another kind…..i know i still have some meds from when i was switched to something else ie: lipitor to crestor and i still have lipitor around here……

          • Kim O’Brien

            good point

          • During the relationship, he could have had spares over at her place.

        • sugarplumfairy

          And another was a beta blocker.. A heart medicine used for hypertension.. Not usually an abused drug and not something I’d even think of using to do myself in.. But wow, would it be effective..

          • Kim O’Brien

            no kidding …no turning back on that one. I had to google how a drug for hypertension can kill you if you do not have it . I wonder if she did the same thing . Ugh

          • Kay

            Sometimes a beta blocker is be used to treat stage fright for performers that suffer from it. That means they don’t take it all the time, just as needed.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    How unbelievably twisty of Shelly to look for ways to bypass the cardinal law about psychiatric meds. That to me is the most shocking thing about this story.

    • Sookie Sookie

      It definitely illustrates Tony’s repeated assertion that there are very different rules for celebrities!

      • Miss Tia

        jinx! πŸ™‚

        • Sookie Sookie

          Great minds πŸ˜‰

          • Miss Tia

            Indeed! πŸ™‚

    • Miss Tia

      but…but….celebrity…..rules are always different!!

    • salin

      Not to mention the lack of concern regarding possible serious medical complications due to the meds (and lack of dr.s involvement in the procedure.)

    • Kim O’Brien

      i thought the same thing !

    • Mark Foster

      Remember, Andrea, that the 9th dynamic in scientology is MONEY. Seriously,El Loon said that. Pimping with Maaaaad Purpose!

      • dungeon master

        As lron himself said ‘ we’d rather have you dead than have money left over for food and shelter and.. you know, all that MESTy stuff.’

    • Ralph Hunter

      But it also says at to a large extent, paradoxically, she was a true believer. She just needed to twist hunbards words at the same time she was following them.

  • villagedianne

    Here is a photo from an article in the Daily mail.
    The caption reads:

    A photograph, shared by White seven weeks ago, shows her taking an intravenous drip of what she identifies as Vitamins B and C, as well as the naturally-occurring antioxidant glutathione. Scientology believers are told the cocktail will protect them from depression

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3261244/Jim-Carrey-s-ex-girlfriend-Cathriona-White-married-man-died.html#ixzz3nmzLPbhs
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Often people with mental health issues get heavily into nutrition. Even my psychoanalyst remarked on the phenomenon. And it does help some people. But apparently for whatever Ms. White was going through, it was not enough, and Scientology certainly would not have allowed her to seek any kind of help elsewhere.

    • Sherbet

      That’s the picture of desperation. Anyone who suffers from depression will try anything to make it go away. That poor girl.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Some will believe they are beyond help (or they don’t want help), and just stay in bed.

        • Sherbet

          That’s true. It’s a horrible, deceptive disease that makes one feel all alone. (Sort of like scientology.)

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Well, I’ve never tried sceintology…

            • Sherbet

              Praise the Lord, Xenu/Xemu, and the Universe for that.

        • Kim O’Brien

          scientology is not “help”

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            I could not agree more.

    • BabySmurfette

      Can you even imagine trusting anyone involved with Scientology to start an IV on you?

    • ze moo

      Practicing medicine with out a license? Hello legal authorities……

      • Sandy

        Draco pointed out that she no doubt went to a Scientology-friendly doc. She said they will treat you with vitamins for mental health issues.

        • ze moo

          There are many osteopaths that do that sort of thing.

  • Scientology tried to put Jim Carrey in their Truman Show.

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      • Philbyification

        Good Show Len! πŸ˜€ oxo

  • SciWatcher

    Wow, Jenna Elfman looks like she really hates her mother-in-law.

    And why in the hell do all the busts of Hubbard feature him with his mouth open?

    • chukicita

      And that horrible pockmarky texture on the skin that makes me think about chest hair and completely give up on breakfast.

      • ze moo

        I think the sculptor wanted to work in Lrons previous life when he was burned to death in a space race in the old Marcab Confederacy.

    • Heidi

      Someone could easily shoop something going into that big, fat mouth.

    • BosonStark

      He’s speaking one of his immortal sayings, like “Oh yes, this is factual.”

    • Ella Raitch

      He’s a mouth-breather

      • sugarplumfairy

        1st prize answer, IMHO..

        • Mary Smith

          Botox lips too!

    • He’s Pigeon Ready.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      It’s his sexy face.

      • Sookie Sookie

        Haha! The lunatic-cult-leader version of the selfie duck-face. His “go to” pose.

      • Observer

        You can practically smell the rotting teeth.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Halitosis is sexy πŸ˜›

          • Observer

            Ewwww

    • Observer

      I bet Jenna hates pretty much everyone except her kids, Ron and COB, or at the least looks down her nose at people.

      • Watcher

        Don’t forget. She also like Netflix and horses.

    • Graham

      Why is he depicted with his mouth open? To use a bit of British slang: it’s because he’s a gob-shite.

    • PickAnotherID

      “They” got rid of his gills and kick started his lungs in “The Creature Walks Among Us”, but his nostrils are so small he became a mouth breather.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      He never stopped talking lying. For the sake of realism, a closed mouth was an unnatural look for Hubbard.

    • Mark Foster

      His functioning asshole notwithstanding, too full of shit to keep either end closed for long…

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Because “Ah..”

    • Missionary Kid

      Why in the hell do all the busts of Hubbard feature him with his mouth open?

      Because he never shut up.

    • Ralph Hunter

      You know, Andy Warhol once did a portrait of a girl, laughing. And her rich boyfriend wouldn’t buy it because her mouth was open. Those portraits sold for $10,000. Imagine what it would have been worth today. But I digress. I think this is the same bust we saw previously ( remember the man boobs?) or else it’s mass produced. Either way, it’s ugly. The mouth is open because of the mouth was closed, the lips would protrude dramatically….. Lizard lips.

    • Ralph Hunter

      Interesting insights in pics, isn’t there. Do you think it’s the raised eyebrows, narrowed eyes and faux smile?

  • Ella Snowfury

    So Shelly Miscavige twisted herself (and poor Claire) into a pretzel trying to bend the rules to get Jim Carrey in? Because she thought scientology could help him with his problems? Ha! No, because scientology wanted his money and celebrity prestige. Thank god he never joined otherwise, with his well documented history of depression, we could well be talking about his loss today. As Tony so rightly said, if you’re depressed, scientology is just about the worst place to be. Indeed.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Ewww.. Scientology is so ugly..

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Thankyou Claire! That the closest top people next to Miscavige were charged with these celebrity outreach and fake pseudo-crank Scientology therapy treatment is really unbelievably covert arrogant and just so over the top outrageous that the mindset at the top of Scientology was so delusionally presumptuous to do this type of Scientology invasive “help” (absolutely delusion and false help) dissemination.

    Priceless solid history told today!

  • Juicer77

    (F5) For a romantic interlude…

    • sugarplumfairy

      Love the lip gloss at Henry’s feet..

      • Ella Raitch

        If he was a she, Henry could be Daisy’s fat bitch beagle

      • Juicer77

        I’ve lost more than one of those delicious orbs to puppy teeth! How do they get them open?!? They have no thumbs!! It’s like a magic trick.

        • Sherbet

          I had to have vinyl splints fitted to both hands, and the doctor’s instructions are printed: “Keep them away from dogs! Puppies love to chew them!”

          • Juicer77

            LOL! Sounds like experience!

        • sugarplumfairy

          That stuff is great and it must have natural ingredients because animals love it.. I started using the summer fruits flavor and if there’s a bee or a gnat within a mile of me, I’ll know it..

    • Sherbet

      No contest. Gimme the dog. Smooch!

    • dungeon master

      I prefer the copy of this bust with a shooped bustier (see john mcghees icon). And fwiw, I saw that grey blob on the wall behind this bust and thought the crusty old dude had got ahold of a pack of kools and was blowing out smoke. Old eyes. Edit for auto correct twice.

  • sugarplumfairy

    I miss Sherbet!!! It’s been more than a few days.. The fairy neeeeeeds her..

    • Ella Raitch

      She ducked in and out yesterday

      • Observer

        Jinx!

        • Ella Raitch

          Hey, we gots to stop doing that!

    • Observer

      She popped in for a bit yesterday

      • sugarplumfairy

        Yay! I missed it but that makes me happy..

    • Ella Raitch

      You’re magic!! Look up!!

    • Robert Eckert

      Some of the recent stories have been depressing for her.

      • Sherbet

        Amen to that, Robert. And they haven’t got any more cheerful, either.

    • Sherbet

      Tag! You’re It.

      • sugarplumfairy

        You made my day, oh wise one.. =)

        • Sherbet

          Wow, and that made my day. Hug hug hug.

  • Sherbet

    I remember being a fan of Jim Carrey when I first saw him in a quirky comedy called The Duck Factory. I thought, “This guy’s going to go far.” He’s had some really good moments — Man on the Moon and The Truman Show among them. I think he’s searched for a career niche — manic goofball or serious artist? — and never found it, which must compound his depression and actor’s angst. To be targeted by scientology, to suit THEIR need for celebrity endorsement and not HIS need for serenity and mental health, is not surprising. It’s scientology.

    This is a hugely sad story, all around, Cathriona White included. Part of me thinks her story should be allowed to fade away in respect for her, but another part of me believes Tony has a reason for digging more deeply into the Carrey-White connection, and it isn’t for sheer sensationalism. Maybe there’s a tipping point here that he sees and we don’t. Yet.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Yay, Sherb!!!

      I loved both those movies.. Some of his others were a little over the top for me.. But I thinks he’s awesome when he’s serious..

      Agree completely with your last thought..

      • Sherbet

        It’s a bit un-Tony-like to gnaw on this story for several days in a row. I’m thinking he has something up his sleeve.

        • TonyOrtega

          Don’t know how I could have been more open about the process, Sherb. Last Tuesday, one of my best sources tipped me that Cat White had been a Scientologist. I knew it was a big story and rushed to get it done for the next day. Thursday morning I saw Pete Griffith’s notes on my Facebook feed about Travis Case and I jumped on it. It was a huge confirmation of my original story (which some reporters had doubted). Then my first source gave me more info about the young Scientologists that had got Cat in, and that seemed important. And then Claire reminded me that she’d once mentioned Carrey to me, which I had forgotten. So last night I got the details from her. Again, it seemed like a major piece of information. I’ve been getting a lot of other messages from people, every day, on this story. Will one of those tips turn out to be worth another story? I don’t know yet. It’s just the way things work when a big story breaks on an ongoing beat.

          • Sherbet

            Ah, I understand now. It seemed more like you were leading up to a story than having the original story snowball the way it did. Journalism is a thing of beauty when it works out that way. A leads to B which leads to C, D, and E. Bravo, Proprietor.

            • jazzlover

              It seems to be a machine that, if properly fed, will do all the work for you πŸ˜‰

            • Sherbet

              Sure, but there’s journalism and there’s “journalism.” We know where Tony fits in there.

            • jazzlover

              he he. Even the upstanding journalists know how to “play” it πŸ™‚

          • outraged

            You have done an AMAZING job of covering this unfortunate story.
            Keep going.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            You mean… the way reporters work? Like that?

    • Ella Raitch

      Sing it Sherb!

    • ze moo

      The Cathriona White story is all over the blogosphere and is getting huge coverage everywhere. At least it was getting huge coverage. The Isabella Cruise wedding stuff is driving Whites story off the front pages but I expect it to huge in the supermarket checkout tabloids this week.

      Could the leak of the wedding be TC’s way of helping get the White suicide story off the front page? I smell a rotten clam in the timing.

      • Sherbet

        You’re as suspicious as I am, ze.

        • ze moo

          You’re not paranoid if you’re looking for double crosses and shenanigans where the CO$ is involved. As Tony says there were no shenanigans in the timing, I accept that.

          One tabloid says Tom Cruise was at the wedding, but that Nichole Kidman was not.

          http://news.softpedia.com/news/isabella-cruise-didn-t-want-mom-nicole-kidman-at-the-wedding-because-of-scientology-493813.shtml

          Many of the reports on Cathorina White confuse the purif with the non-survival rundown. I am surprised that so many link to the bunker or credit Tony with info regarding this matter.

          Many people are getting the back story on $cientology, both from Isabella’s wedding and Cathorina’s story.

          • Sherbet

            “You’re not paranoid if you’re looking for double crosses and shenanigans where the CO$ is involved.” Miss Tia needs to embroider this on a pillow.

            • ze moo

              I’ll write something shorter for the bumper sticker.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              “Scientology Happens”

      • TonyOrtega

        No. Chris White told me about Bella’s wedding almost two weeks ago. It just took that long for him to get it into print. See my note in yesterday’s post.

        • Tampamom

          What about the information that Cathriona was married? Do you know if he was a Scientologist?

    • Missionary Kid

      I first saw him on In Living Color.
      This is another story that has legs because it truly exposes the craziness that $cientology has and it’s lust for celebrities. They’ve lived by celebrities, and they’ll die by celebrities.

      • Sherbet

        It’s sad that at the heart of the story is a woman who searched for mental health and “ability” in the worst place she could possibly look. And now she’s achieved some sort of fame after death only because she associated with famous people. It’s a sad mess.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Lacklustre, Dave, lacklustre.
    I suffered through some of the New Year videos yesterday.

    For all the gaudy gilt and risible rhinestone decor,
    for all the accelerated effects, the bated breath announcements,
    the astonishing (and astonishingly dishonest) numbers
    and the choreographed applause,
    somehow, you still manage to be just plain lacklustre.
    It may be because you have the personality of 5-day old roadkill
    in the summer heat, after the buzzards have scavenged it.
    Charisma?
    You are penicillin for someone who wants bread.
    You are instant water for those who thirst.
    If they could just add water and stir.
    You are an empty strip-mall in the abandoned town
    called $cientology.
    There is no there there.

    But, but, …. there is the pompadour,
    Always the pompadour, eh?
    Hair today, gone tomorrow, Dave.
    And the steepled fingers, a posturing of power
    by a puny preening imposter,
    Dave, it makes you look like a cat with polio,
    an epileptic whippet on benzedrine,
    it makes you look the petty punk you really are.
    Pfffft!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      How’s that again…?

  • From 28 years ago today:

    Defendant in Park Murder Tried to Join Scientologists October 6, 1987, James Barron, New York Times

    Mr. Chambers, who is accused of murdering 18-year-old Jennifer Levin during a sexual encounter in Central Park in August 1986, visited the Celebrity Center on East 82d Street in October 1985 and March 1986, said a Scientology official, John Carmichael.

    The church on both occasions rejected applications for counseling from Mr. Chambers, now 21 years old, Mr. Carmichael said. He said the organization gave the center its name because well-known people attend programs there, including, he said, the actor John Travolta and the jazz musician Chick Corea.

    Mr. Carmichael said the organization would provide the records ”unless there’s a court order that says we shouldn’t.”

    Rejected? Does that ever really happen? Also note how Carmichael is volunteering to produce records without a massive religious confidentiality fight. O,o

    • sugarplumfairy

      Now, that’s weird..

      • Observer

        No, it’s Scientology.

    • Sherbet

      Carmichael’s action said, “Look! We’ve got proof this lowlife murderer isn’t one of US.”

      • Observer

        Exactly.

      • (Whirr of a shredder in the background)

        • Sherbet

          You made me laugh. And I liked it. πŸ˜‰

    • Oh man, I remember this story big time as a couple of my friends at the time knew Chambers and were actually interviewed… also I was a regular at the bar where he picked her up….it was at the time when camcorders first came out and I’ll always remember the bit where he twists the dolls head off in front of the camera… and now the scientology connection…amazing!

    • MaxSpaceman

      Followed that story back when and read ‘so’ much over time about it. Never saw that mentioned once.

      Of course that means I missed the Barron article! Still, no one I ever read had said anything of Scientology.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Scientology rejects people who are obviously mentally ill. Because, y’know, they have no way to handle that.

  • Watcher

    Good day one and all! I have been lurking here and there but have not been logged in in about a month. Going back to click the heart on about a month’s worth of Tony’s posts. πŸ™‚

  • EnthralledObserver

    I fricken just did something CRAZY! I booked fights that cost over $1100… this better be bloody good, Ortega… I tell ya! I coulda gone on a cruise!

    • Kim O’Brien

      holy cow lady LOL

    • MaxSpaceman

      so much? you are down under. Wouldn’t the distance be not so great to where you need to go? Why so much for airfare in ANZO ?

      • EnthralledObserver

        Apparently everything is expensive here… so I’m now led to believe. I could have got them a bit cheaper if I’d booked earlier… but only a few hundred dollars, really. This is for two people, btw…

        • MaxSpaceman

          oh- that changes ever’thing. $550 smackers each (Aussie dough) is more realistic with going cross that gigantic (land mass) country. πŸ™‚

          • EnthralledObserver

            Yep. I mean, it’s like 3000km or so… a fair distance. I considered going by myself to keep the cost down, but hubby is slightly concerned I won’t safely navigate in Redfern alone… and his concern made me nervous… so I’d rather he come to hold my hand.

            • Frankie

              Hey, you can catch up with me EnthralledObserver Redfern is not that bad when you know which streets to stick too!

            • EnthralledObserver

              Awesome… would love to, Frankie! Heh… hubby is from Mt Druitt originally, but been up here in Queensland over 25 years now, so I’m not sure how current his information is regarding Redfern, but I’m just a small town girl… probably too naive to be wandering around by myself there according to him. Haha.
              Have yet to book my accommodation… but will be somewhere near-ish the venue. We should message one another and exchange contact details etc closer to the date. πŸ™‚

            • Frankie

              Great! I’m a city girl and love playing tour guide – we will have it covered!

            • EnthralledObserver

              Hey Frankie… just thought I’d catch up with you before Friday. We are flying in rather late in the afternoon (5:35pm), the only flight I could get unfortunately, what’s the best prestige taxi service to use? We have a room just around the corner from the event and will need to get there pretty quick. Where are you coming from?

            • Frankie

              I will be coming from Central Station. I reckon we will have time for a quick bite to eat πŸ™‚

        • Juicer77

          Heh, you Aussies an’ your itty bitty country. I mean, continent! πŸ˜‰

    • Sherbet

      Tony had better give you a hug for your sacrifice.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I just want to know what the black drink is…

        But I’ll take a hug too, haha…

    • flyonthewall

      may you return from your journey a rehabilitated thetan

      • EnthralledObserver

        My expectations are that high. Yes.

        • flyonthewall

          I heard Tony loves Vegemite sandwiches. With extra Vegemite. Lots and lots of Vegemite. Just give him a brick of Vegemite to nibble on and he’ll be happy

          • EnthralledObserver

            Vegemite cross-stitch? I mean… I could give it a go…

          • Ella Raitch

            We can coat the rim of his margarita glass with vegemite

            • EnthralledObserver

              ooh… creative. Nice.

            • flyonthewall

              a vegarita!

            • Ella Raitch

              Good for you! I was trying to do the same but came up with Margamita – and that sounded dumb!

            • flyonthewall

              no it’s good, sounds even more disgusting. Like a margarita with margarine or something lol

    • Ella Raitch

      Maybe a prosperity convention on the Freewinds

      • EnthralledObserver

        I don’t think I have enough money for that… lol

    • aquaclara

      Ooh, goody! Have a blast!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      $1100 for the fights?

      Better be a good match…!

      • EnthralledObserver

        Haha… oops.

        Freudian slip… I’m expect fighting $ci-bots, donchaknow? πŸ˜‰

    • sugarplumfairy

      He’s worth it..

  • Ben Franklin

    What I find very disturbing is the fact that Scientology has used Scientology Women as bait to try and lure unsuspecting male celebrities into the church.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      Disturbing, but not surprising.

      • Ben Franklin

        It is almost like pimping in a way.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          But in a religious way.

          • Ben Franklin

            Must be very tough to be a single beautiful Scientologist because sooner or later one finds themselves at the doorsteps of whichever celebrity happens to be making news at the time.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              What would you choose: a celeb, or ethics for 6 months?

          • Miss Tia

            Ecclesiastical Pimps

            • MostEthicalPimp

              They’re only do everything in their power to save their John’s eternities. Now that’s Ethical Pimping!

        • MostEthicalPimp

          Did someone saying Pimp?

    • Why are you surprised? Scientology is an offshoot of a sex magik cult. Why would using sexy women/men to get what you want be a shock? There are hundreds of beautiful women that are or have at one time been on staff at Celebrity Centre and Bridge publications. Why? The recruiters were young, VERY attractive men who used sexy charm to get those girls to join the Sea Org. In the course room when we had a difficult student and needed to charm them into staying late or coming in early or something we would use the “S” method. “S” standing for SEXY. And if it was a man, usually I would go and “Talk” with him. Being sure to lean over the desk ever so slightly so that our, ill fitting blouses would drape open even further and they would be distracted by my breasts while I asked them to do what I wanted. Or one of the cute boys would turn on the charm with the ladies. Back massages, jokes, outright flirting. What ever it took. But of course that was all OK because it was for the “greatest good for the greatest number of Dynamics”. It was “Pro Survival”. It was “Command Intention”. We were “helping” them. (Gonna repost above as well. For the masses.)

    • StudentOfLife

      Change that to “unsuspecting males with money.” A few decades ago in the prime of my youth I, 5’7″ tall, with company car and big expense account traveling across the midwest for Donnelly Yellow Page, wound up taking the intro courses in St Louis and even paid for initial auditing until I realized the e-meter and auditor were easily fooled and I realized this was about money and I was being hustled. I didn’t admit to Bunker that a 6′ 1′ beautiful lady had come up to me in a hotel lobby and “charmed” me into taking classes and even eventually paying for her auditing. The first three courses were inexpensive. When the next course was suddenly over a $1,000 and she was “begging” me to put money on her account and do more courses with her, now trying to get “serious”, I realized she was a “whack” job and a professional hustler for Scientology. She saw me as a “mark” and I realized that 6’1″ women do not come up to a 5’7″ stranger and get that “friendly” unless they have an ulterior motive and in this case she wanted my money and my soul. I remember that all the Scilon women in the St Louis Center were very beautiful and I observed how they brought in young professional men non stop and one in particular (I remember her red hair) I saw flirting with three men.and I was only there in evenings and weekends.

  • Bert Allen

    I can verify that a favorite OSA tactic is to get “operatives” close to those they are interested in, though in my experience it was enemies. Particularly, getting operatives placed as friends or significant others close to attorneys fighting the COS and operatives hired to work in their law firms.

    • TexasBroad

      Ah yes…such a touching religious tradition!!!!

      Scary, right? Even if a law firm feels confident in its own staff, during the course of a lawsuit, it uses many other support providers as well…court reporters, videographers, couriers, etc.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      The Church still uses operatives. Though they’re usually from the presidents office.

      • Bert Allen

        I would love more details on the President’s Office. Back when I was fighting the good fight OSA ran everything, usually hiring law firms who hired PIs for this type of work in order to create a buffer for deniability.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          I heard of it from Nick Lister, It apparently used to keep tabs on celebs.

          • Bert Allen

            OK. so we are actually talking about two different parts of the COS with two different tasks. The President’s Office tries to recruit celebrities as one of its duties and OSA controls litigation, Fair Game Tactics, etc against enemies and antagonists.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              Sounds right.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              Sounds right, It’s also a lot nicer to say I’m with the President’s Office then Office Of Special Affairs. When you talk to people.

  • My name is Larry Lester

    where does one get tickets from for Tony’s tour ?

    • Observer

      If tickets are needed, from the hosting venue

      • My name is Larry Lester

        Thanks!

  • MrsLurksALot

    Uhhmmm…..has this been posted yet? Cathriona was married? No wonder Jim and she had such and off/on relationship. This just keeps getting dirtier and dirtier.

    http://pagesix.com/2015/10/06/jim-carreys-late-girlfriend-was-married-to-another-man-when-she-died/

    • Miss Tia

      appeared yesterday in the hollywood reporter, but it’s good to repost for those who didn’t see it…..

      • MrsLurksALot

        Sorry for the repost, must have missed it when trying to catch up on comments. I generally sort by best, but can get off track.

        • Sergeant Pepper

          I always appreciate these kind of reposts. I can’t read all the comments anymore, as much as I’d love to.

        • Miss Tia

          No worries at all!! It’s good to repost, as you yourself just said and proved, you missed it as I have no doubt many others did too!!

          • MrsLurksALot

            Thanks, Tia!

    • Sergeant Pepper

      Just saw that. WTF? If this mystery husband is a scientologist, I’m going to be very suspicious.

      • Ella Raitch

        I thought the same – someone on ESMB said the husband is in Ireland – haven’t seen that confirmed in the press

      • MrsLurksALot

        Yeah, things that make you go “hmmmmmm.”

      • Miss Tia

        oh gee…..didn’t think of that!

      • Daily Mail says that the relationship ended five years ago, and that’s about or before the time she began to be hooked by Scientology, so probably not.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Thanks for posting that – I had missed it. Whoa.

      • MrsLurksALot

        Whoa is right. I did a double take, that’s for sure.

    • jazzlover

      In the past, the Post wouldn’t have been able to resist at least taking a couple of cracks at identifying (or guessing) the unidentified husband. Progress?

      • MostEthicalPimp

        If she was married in the US, I’m sure a personal information service would easily be able to tell you who it was. I’d think most reporters would have access to such a system. Seams strange they don’t know

        • Compassion

          True. If the young woman was married in the US it is a matter of public record.

        • jazzlover

          It does. It seems like the Post was “allowed” to create the tease, but paid to not reveal. Is this even possible? Who knows, but journalists aren’t typically bought off. Not if they want to keep their jobs, anyway.

        • Miss Tia

          If they were married in the US you’d have to know where to be able to access the public records. Also, I know in my county, marriage records aren’t online, you have to request them in person and then wait a few days.

    • villagedianne

      According to the Daily Mail article about her marriage, White was separated, and planning to divorce.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262070/Jim-Carrey-s-ex-girlfriend-Cathriona-White-married-Mark-Burton-time-death.html

      • MrsLurksALot

        Cameraman Mark Burton from LA. Doesn’t say how long they were married or if he is a Sci. Interesting…..

  • I know mentioned this a few times here over the past few days but now might be a more appropriate time to ask directly:

    Why do you think Cathriona installed a sophisticated 5 camera security system at her home just days before she died? Do you think Carrey knew and possibly paid for it?

    How come Jenny Burpee had access to this system as the first on scene and is taken as source by all the media outlets as to what Cathriona’s relationship status with Carrey actually was?… I mean, she’s Sea Org ethics ffs!

    Why no mention of the other 4 notes she left?

    Would like to get your thoughts, especially on the first one……

    • Miss Tia

      And if Burpee had access to the system why did she wait 4 days with seeing no comings/going response to texts?

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Speculation master X here. I’d think Jim knew and paid for it since he seems to have been a bit of Sugar daddy having paid for her rent. As far as Jenny Burpee. Maybe OSA hacked it. Someone more connected should ask if the default password was changed. Call the company that makes it and see if some did a remote password reset if it was ‘cloud enabled system.’ Maybe the installer had an OSA connection.* I don’t know if Jim Carrey is a Tech/Handy enough to install a system but I’m wager an installer was hired. THIS POST WAS PASED PURE Speculation! *Hopeful the police techs connected are already on it!

      • flyonthewall

        I am interested in your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter

    • Snuzey

      Clearly this is pure speculation. My feeling is the opposite in that I think her BFF sea org ethics officer Burpee arranged for the cameras, esp since Scn feeds into your paranoia and what better way to keep tabs on her and Carrey than to see who comes and goes from her house? All part of the spying protocol for me.

      • LA police should definitely be checking up with the installer as to how the system was paid for… If by credit card, then who’s. Ideally if there was any conversation between Cathriona and the installer about why she wanted it installed.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          Not to mention the background check of the installer and the company that made the system. Is there a Scientology connection? Because if there was OSA would force them to grant access!

          • Boy, wouldn’t that be something…..

        • Miss Tia

          And to view the CCTV coverage of when Burpee and the others arrived to get the time and compare it to when they placed the call to authorities and did someone leave before authorities arrived? Did they take something? Was the CCTV tampered with to erase anything?

          • MostEthicalPimp

            I hope they packed up the whole system and sent to the FBI for a thorough analyzes.

            • Miss Tia

              I think even the local police could do a good preliminary examination. Anything missing on it? Time they arrived, time the call was made, etc.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              er You never know, I don’t think the LAPD is trained to deal with Spy Agency Level Cover-ups. OSA has probably trained how to deal with CCTV systems any good spy agency would. You go in do your thing then leave and come back again. Erase the data by looping over some old data while replacing any time stamps. Hmm, no wonder it took a few days to “figure out” she died. They needed to the time to cover there tracks. Or maybe they just waited long enough for data to overwrite it self.

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Hey Bunkerites!! πŸ™‚ Life has me by the tail and I’m super busy, know that I’m peeking in when I can and missing you all. Just wanted to share a snip from an email I received today. (F5)

    Going Clear is Coming!!

    • Miss Tia

      I wondered where you were this morning!!!!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Hey you!

    • Juicer77

      Good stuff! πŸ™‚

  • Jonathan Cummings

    What can Scientology do for you? Scientology can drive you to bankruptcy, make you so confused and depressed you commit suicide, force you to disconnect from people you love, break you down using hypnotic techniques so you no longer have critical thinking skills and toss you out on tour ass when you are too old, sick or poor to be useful to the organization anymore. I could go on and on, but you all get the picture.

    • salin

      Scientology: A path to self-calamity.

      • flyonthewall

        I first read this as self-clamity. I seriously did

        • salin

          Scientology: Become self-clammy followed by personal calamity.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Night all!

    • Ella Raitch

      Nighty night!

    • salin

      Good Night!

  • Fink Jonas

    Seems like Lisa Marie Presley has been used by Scientology as a high price Lady of the evening, to attract prominent personalities; Michael Jackson and Nicholas Cage, both failed efforts…. come on, who else that we don’t know? That’s one of the things in scientology you really learn to be malleable for the Third Dynamic.
    I so would die to hear a word from Lisa Marie about how she was persuaded to pursue two men apparently not her type. (I don’t know her type) but I know this two were not….a brake up after 3 month, come on.

    • flyonthewall

      the honey trap is one of the oldest spy tricks in the world and Sci has always made full use of it just like any respectable religion does

      • jazzlover

        Resistance is indeed futile πŸ™‚

        • EmmaDaoust

          Indeed.

          • jazzlover

            It appears that the northern sector of the peanut gallery has been heard from πŸ˜‰

            • EmmaDaoust

              No peanuts allowed in Canada, but the True North does flow with honey and the milk of human kindness.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Lady of the evening. hmm?

    • Twenty-seven years and a few days ago today:

      Elvis’ daughter gets married October 6, 1988, St. Petersburg Times

      Lisa Marie Presley, the 20-year-old daughter of Elvis, has wed a musician she dated for three years, her publicist said Wednesday.

      Lisa Marie wed Danny Keough, 23, this week in a private ceremony at the Hollywood headquarters of the Church of Scientology, said the publicist, Paul Bloch.

      Keough hopped out of the way on the double when she was targeted at Michael Jackson.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        Even weirder when you think he still leaves on the same property, guest house, I think. Last I heard.

        • It could have been an arrangement for the benefit of their two kids. He could be there while she was away, and *cough* while Michael Jackson was there.

  • Sejanus

    “What can $cientology do for you?”

    Pfft, nothing good!

  • flyonthewall

    I love it when Tony doesn’t hold back and goes full on snark like with the Bogota pic

    ” You mean, how many more toilets can you clean with your tongue and then thank Scientology for taking in your miserable thetan ass for the next billion years? Start writing that check, you pathetic worm! “

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Makes me think “Are you sure your figures didn’t sign a check your tongue couldn’t cash?”

      • flyonthewall

        dip your tongue in an inkwell and sign the check with your tongue? That’s like taking the Chinese way of sending a bill for the bullet to the executed’s family to a whole new level.

    • BabySmurfette

      We should not ask “What can Scientology do for you?” but “What can YOU do for Scientology?” Let’s start by handing over your wallet.

      • salin

        And not only your first-born… but all of your children to the Sea Org.

      • flyonthewall

        I heard that one of the Super Power gizmos is a thing that holds you upside down by the ankles and shakes you until all the spare change falls from your pockets. Then the SO scramble and fight each other to scoop it up. It’s called the Spanger Rundown.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          Close, It’s a coin star machine their held over. With the payment slip curried to DM.

          • flyonthewall

            Or one of those funnel things that makes the coins go round and round? So much fun

    • Acherontia

      God, that cleaning toilets with your tongue thing makes my skin crawl and my stomach turn. That is some Hostel shit right there.

  • salin

    Local orgs and missions use of CraigsList to recruit deceptively and covertly – blech. Never on the up and up. Two examples today (one from yesterday) with NO mention of Scientology.

    1st Preys on a parent’s fear for her/his child, offers ‘solution’ that sounds like what schools’ offer per ed psych evaluation for a learning disability, but REALLY is offering the OCA personality ruin-finder test. Complete with an urge direction: before it is too late.

    Is your child failing in his studies? see (and whack!) http://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/com/5252386424.html

    2nd is from Boston – blatantly from the onset stages an isolate from your friends/past – and let us be your friend … get a new life. *blech*

    Let go of your past and make new positive friends
    …Come to this class. We are a non-profit organization, and our class will
    help you deal with anxiety, depression, and stress in your life, and
    help you move on to have a new life.
    (just a snippet) see (and whack!) http://boston.craigslist.org/sob/act/5248207289.html

    • PlanetJ

      done!

  • Jimmy3

    . . .

    • Maybe they rejected him? John Carmichael says it happens.

      • Jimmy3

        It has all the makings of a classic Nicolas Cage cult!

        1) During designated times and otherwise, no one is allowed to blink!
        2) Aliens!

        Again, I must ask, HOW AM I NOT IN THAT CULT?!!?!

        • Observer

          As long as they don’t make you eat cockroaches

    • Observer

      Maybe he is too odd even for Scientology.

      • flyonthewall

        After he did Ghost Rider they lost their appetite for him

        • Observer

          “I feel like my skull’s on fire, but I’m good “

          • flyonthewall

            He does collect vintage comics. Maybe they had their eyes on those bad boys?

            • MostEthicalPimp

              I thought Nicolas Cage had a very expensive liqueur collection, too.

          • So much for Happy Premise #3.

    • Jimmy3

      These Get in the Cage! bits always make me laugh, because I’m easily amused, but I just now remembered that John Travolta is made fun of in this one:
      http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/weekend-update-get-in-the-cage-with-liam-neeson/n13510

  • Nat-leficent

    . . .

    • salin

      Feed Me, Davie….

    • flyonthewall

      That is awesome. What do they call a gif maker? A Gooper?

      • Nat-leficent

        “Gif-ted”

        • flyonthewall

          *swish* It’s like a shoop but it’s alive! You’re straight gangsta Nat. Respect

        • Jimmy3

          You’ve just forfeited your right to groan at my puns. I hope you feel like it was worth it.

          • Nat-leficent

            I realized that as I typed it and hit “post” XD

    • sugarplumfairy

      Aaaaaagghhhhh!!!

  • villagedianne

    From the latest Daily Mail article on the Bella Cruise wedding:

    “Initial reports suggested the couple didn’t want either sets of parents to attend. But there was a suggestion the Mission Impossible star was there to give his blessings.”

    Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-3261223/Tom-Cruise-pays-daughter-Bella-wed-boyfriend-Max-Parker-upmarket-hotel-does-not-attend-intimate-nuptials.html#ixzz3nndxlOhi
    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    Now there is a “suggestion” that he may have been at the wedding. Is this Tom’s PR flacks at work?

  • jazzlover

    Wilhere always has the creepy look of the guy who never talks but just follows orders. Like a hit man without a weapon.

  • Satansthetan

    Dror Soref still on bail, perfect place for a Scientology whale. Apparently has squandered the fortune he stole from elderly people and is asking local clams for help raising money for attorney fees.
    http://www.signalscv.com/section/36/article/143218/

  • Panopea Abrupta

  • Nat-leficent

    FIFY
    F5
    *Insulting informal intentional

    • Newiga

      Huey AndrΓ©s! Scientology es MUY malo!!

  • Lurkness

    Let’s try a bit of Survey here for HowdyCon/Bunkerama 2016 based on comments from last night. Presuming we can get housing somewhere near $100 a night, vote like for the following cities if you could/would attend there. If you prefer an option, post a note stating it’s your preferred location.

    • Lurkness

      Chicago

    • Lurkness

      Cleveland

    • Lurkness

      Philadelphia

    • Sherbet

      Fill me in, Lurkness. What was said last night?

      • Lurkness

        Given the success of the TUML Tour, and the fun meeting fellow Bunkeroos, it was mentioned we should have a get together next year and Tony thought it would be a good idea. SP convention of the century!

        • Sherbet

          Was Howdy to say “Howdy!” to one another, or was it in reference to Captain Howdy? I’m dumb.

          • Miss Tia

            Howdy is in reference to Captain Howdy yes, Con short for Conference.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks, Miss Tia! I figured, but I can be pretty thick sometimes.

            • Jimmy3

              You were missed, Sherbie Sherb.

            • Sherbet

              Thank you, JimmyJimmyJimmy.

        • Miss Tia

          HowdyCon!

    • Lurkness

      Las Vegas

    • Lurkness

      Los Angeles

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Yes because it is the center of the $cilon universe and there would be lots of lulz.

      • Lurkness

        USC has summer conference/housing option, but don’t have pricing.

        • Miss Tia

          Wouldn’t we then have to worry about getting around the area? LA is a place you really have to have a vehicle to get around in.

          • Lurkness

            Get a bus for tours? Believe it or not, LA’s subway system is also catching on and the Expo line has a stop at USC. Subway map here: http://media.metro.net/riding_metro/maps/images/rail_map.pdf

            • Miss Tia

              i just wanted to toss out transport issues i didn’t expect you to look into it! sorry about that!…..i know in some of the cities with a lot of votes it wouldn’t be an issue as we could walk places quite easily…..

    • Sherbet

      Howdy loved SF and considered it his home.

      • Lurkness

        I know, would be a great location, but I cannot think of any cheap housing options there at all. We have looked at Universities in some of these cities and you can get pretty good summer conference rates at Universities that will rent out their apts and dorm rooms. Why NYC basically is crossed off the list too, but someone still needs to check what Columbia University charges for their rooms during the summer.

        • Miss Tia

          I just went there quickly and you have to email them for info after filling out a form explaining what your conference is for, etc.

          • Lurkness

            Thanks!

          • Lurkness

            Added NYC as an option above. Spoke with Columbia University. Last summer the conference rates were $85 for a single and $75 per person for a double. Expect rates to go up 3-5% for 2016.

        • Sherbet

          OK, so you’re looking for locations that are fairly centrally located and have the most accessibility and Bunker density. Got it.

          • Miss Tia

            and not expensive!!

          • Robert Eckert

            If you can get there by blimp, that’s especially good.

        • seriouslyWTF

          Hotel rooms are dirt cheap in Arizona in the summertime. You can get rooms at the top resorts for less than 100.00. And then there’s Vegas.

          • Miss Tia

            Getting there might be an issue for some.

            • QbirdSP

              Vegas airlines routinely run ‘cheap’ flights from all over the US… booking early in a must. Also – off season (either early April & late Oct./early Nov.) makes for cheaper flights/hotel rooms.

              eta: btw, the cheapest time to book any flight to anywhere is in September, after Labor day. I don’t know why this is, but it’s true.

            • Miss Tia

              i can’t fly…..

              ETA: medical reason—neurologist has told me to never get on a plane again…..

            • Lurkness

              A hear that with a little auditing, you will fly!

            • Sherbet

              Canceling Miss Tia’s blimp…

            • Miss Tia

              oh hell no!!!!! when my neurologist told me that i told him about the blimp and that i was getting on that damn thing some day even if i had to blimp jack it!!! to his extreme credit, the man looked up the type of aircraft, etc and because it’s not a pressured cabin i would have no problem!!! he did say if i ever get to go he’d suggest i take an extra topomax and mecklizine but since they fly with the windows open and it’s not pressurized i shouldn’t have a problem at all!!

              DO NOT CANCEL MY BLIMP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! πŸ˜€

            • Sherbet

              Rescheduling Miss Tia’s blimp…and leaving the windows open…

            • Miss Tia

              whew! thank you!!! πŸ™‚

            • Miss Tia

              well shit, sign me up!!!

            • QbirdSP

              understood – air pressure. Miss Tia, I love Amtrak – I’ve taken the train all over the US & have loved every single trip… also as we go along here, maybe there will be road trips with others – we’ll just keep talking about it until we work it out.

            • Miss Tia

              i don’t mind driving……but if it was a couple days of driving, then no—obviously cuz that would be expensive…..up to 20 hours driving would be fine…..i believe if it’s drivable i’m bringing jimmy3 and frodis and we could take turns driving…..though jimmy needs to be live blogging it all…. πŸ˜‰ never took amtrak…..i don’t think we have it around here anywhere…..once we know a location, things can be sorted better πŸ™‚

              yeah, air pressure…..he said i’d end up in the hospital and he even wrote down somewhere what they’d have to give me via IV for up to 48 hours to restore my vestibular system if i was stupid enough to ignore him…..i said no way no how i was gonna be stupid with that!!! i had vertigo for a year until i found him and he properly diagnosed me and within 2 weeks—GONE!!!

          • Miss Tia

            wait, wouldn’t it be like 100+ degrees there in the summer? a friend lives in phoenix and she’s told she about dies going to her car to the court house and back (she’s a lawyer)…..

            • seriouslyWTF

              That’s why hotel rooms are dirt cheap. Keep in mind that it is a dry heat. I photographed a golf tournament with people from all over the U.S. They thought it was in the 80s. It was actually 109 that day. This was in Tucson. Phoenix is hotter than Tucson.
              Vegas also has dirt cheap rooms and there are normally great flight deals.

            • Frodis73

              I so would love to live there. Hate cold and hate humidity, but love that dry heat.

      • Miss Tia

        That’d be expensive. We don’t have a SP Whale. πŸ™‚

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Yes SF because Jamie deWolfe!

      • Observer

        horribly expensive

        • Sherbet

          πŸ™

          • Observer

            Now lodging in the area where I’m from is cheaper, and we could take a field trip to the ranch! πŸ˜€

            It’s not exactly centrally located though. And gas is $4-5 a gallon.

            • Sherbet

              Call the ranch and tell them to expect guests.

    • Lurkness

      A Colorado location

    • Miss Tia

      I know you found the rates for Loyola and I found the rates for CSU. They seemed the cheapest—-for college room staying instead of a hotel and both were around $50 a night or less.

    • Lurkness

      Indianapolis

      • Lurkness

        Tony mentioned last night that he always wanted to go to Gencon in Indianapolis which is August 4 – 7, 2016 this year. Perhaps we could schedule our conference at the front or back end of it.

    • Lurkness

      Kansas City

      • flyonthewall

        PS on the KC option – Tony loves KC

        • Miss Tia

          i heard there was a plumber’s convention in KC once! πŸ˜‰

          • flyonthewall

            i heard the crack flowed like water at that convention

            eta – get it? crack – butt cracks n plumbers, water? eh? eh? aww forget it

            • Miss Tia

              they all showed off their mammoth tools!

    • Lurkness

      St Louis

    • outraged

      NY, NJ, CT, PA, DE, MD, OH, MN, MI, MA, MS

      • Miss Tia

        Lurkness is listing cities here, trying to be orderly…..

        • outraged

          sorry…..had no idea I did it wrong.

    • villagedianne

      Someplace where I can take the Megabus from NYC.

    • Lurkness

      Cincinnati

      • Miss Tia

        For Dodo and plumbers!!! πŸ™‚

        • Lurkness

          Exactly! I didn’t want to get banned by Dodo.

      • Miss Tia

        Wow 5 votes and Dodo hasn’t voted yet!! πŸ˜€

    • Compassion

      Rockland Maine.

    • Name the place.

    • salin

      Maybe look at midwest (central and less expensive) that are on Amtrak lines (party trains to and from!) I think Chicago, Indy, St. Louis, and Cincinnati are all on those lines.

      • StudentOfLife

        St Louis is low cost, Collinsvile Convention Center at the Gateway Center on 157 across the river a real possibility and SIU Edwardsville might even have an inexpensive place to host. Plenty of inexpensive hotels and Riverfront and U City and the Hill (think Italian) all worth enjoying.

        • Lurkness

          Yes, and it is a listed option.

        • flyonthewall

          and everyone gets free legos if they vote for STL!

          ETA – you won’t really that was just a lie I made up to get votes *shame*

          • Miss Tia

            when did the humidity hit this past summer? i know in the midwest it usually hits mid july thru august…..well it did when i was in iowa……

            • flyonthewall

              that sounds right but it really hasn’t been bad the past few summers

            • Miss Tia

              I’d have to look at past weather reports. Also would need locations of ERs if I’m out in high humidity too long—-what we had here for a week was bad but nothing like midwest humidity. Humidity has been trying to kill me for 30 years!! Fucking humidity….i’d be the one passing out during marching band practice on the field…..of course they gave us zero water, nada for hours…..surprising i was the only one who usually passed out…..of course that was iowa and that’s just a 4-letter state…..

            • flyonthewall

              Oh dang, that’s horrible. Asthma?

            • Miss Tia

              Actually I do have asthma and I get a little short of breath (not bad, only on steps) with humidity, but my body cannot handle high humidity AT ALL. After 30 years of this crap I finally learned THIS year the likely culprit is my natural low blood pressure. I mean, I stayed inside this year when the humidity got high, stay hydrated–with water and gatorade, went to the air conditioned room but was still so sick I had to go to the ER, per doctor’s orders as i’m not apt to go there in the first place. Nothing else I can do to prevent it either, as I was doing everything right. Aside from getting another AC for my house next year. I basically can’t go out in high humidity AT ALL. Some people don’t get that, since I sit out on the street in the sun but heat is totally different from humidity!!

    • Miss Tia

      What about Pittsburgh? (I’ve never been there, so I have no horse in that race)

      • jazzlover

        How ’bout the appropriately named location just a little east — Happy Valley? πŸ˜‰ It’s already like Jonestown over there during football season. LOL

        • Miss Tia

          Happy Valley sounds fun!!

          • jazzlover

            It’s a cool little place. Just make sure to avoid signing the billion year contract of allegiance to Joe Paterno and Penn State football πŸ™‚ It is quite possible they do rent out dorm rooms during the summer. We could all wear our “Kill Sandusky” jerseys πŸ˜‰

            • Miss Tia

              oh fuck!!! i forgot that’s where that shit happened!! that’s bad juju!!!

            • jazzlover

              We can both convene AND protest that, pissing off a few thousand Penn State adherents along the way. WIN-WIN, in my book πŸ˜‰

            • Miss Tia

              those people are RABID!!! i don’t have enough golf clubs to hand around to everyone!!

            • jazzlover

              Tell me about it. The reaction to all of it was pretty despicable. They wouldn’t cop to any blame, and then went all apeshit when Paterno had his wins taken away. Sad. That’s why I think that the college football mentality often resembles that of a cult.

            • Miss Tia

              I would agree with that and you could add major league sports to that too with some of their fans.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              It’s ok Tia, I’ll bring mine and my dad’s clubs too-there’ll be enough to go around πŸ˜‰

          • Robert Eckert

            It’s a pain in the ass to get there, however.

            • Miss Tia

              i see what you did there!!

            • salin

              Sort of like getting to Oxford, Ohio from anywhere that isn’t Cincinnati.

      • Frodis73

        Pittsburgh is actually a lot of fun. I know I’m not supposed to say that being from Cleveland and all, but I had a great time the one time I was there.

        • Miss Tia

          why can’t you say that being from cleveland? that’s weird…..i finally made it to PA for my first time in 2012—went to fairview (by erie) to visit a friend…..during KSU days we were going to go to PA–you might remember this as james was involved—to slash’s black death vodka (i think it was called that) and it was sold in a coffin…..wasn’t sold in OH….and i was the designated booze buyer being over 21….janice was gonna drive….but then they pulled it off the market!!!! now you know james hated if people asked him if he was trying to look like slash….but he wanted the little coffin……

    • salin

      Ann Arbor (great midwestern College town)

    • Sookie Sookie

      And please upvote Lurkness’ top-level post, so as many Bunkeroos as possible see the poll today!

    • Jimmy3

      There’s a run-down, out-of-business amusement park in Rodanthe, North Carolina. I have checked it out and confirmed that it is not haunted. They have a go-kart track that just needs some weeds pulled. (and some other work). If we raise the money, we can just buy it and live there. HowdyCon forever.

      • Sookie Sookie

        Something about this picture of it even reminds me of Saint Hill…

        http://i.imgur.com/jCb4tEx.jpg

      • Lurkness

        Go karts, YES!

      • salin

        What about the Outer Banks (e.g. Kitty Hawk, Nags Head). It used to be possible to pitch in and rent a beach house for a number of days.

        • Miss Tia

          we’d have at least 50 people probably……

          • salin

            Here is an example – http://www.vrbo.com/3841774ha 8 bedrooms (says sleeps 22, but even at 8 – 450/8 is under $60 a night.

            Who am I kidding, it would be a pain to get there. Jimmy just made me think NC – and my brain went to the Outerbanks.

            • Miss Tia

              no more of a pain than some of the other places suggested! πŸ™‚

            • Jimmy3

              But goddamn, if I could live anywhere, I’d live there. Or near there. I’ve long thought that’s where I’ll retire to. Maybe after my book about refurbishing lawn chairs gets picked up for publication.

        • Jimmy3

          Rodanthe is basically in the middle of the Outer Banks. And I did propose that idea of pitching in and renting an OBX party house on the beach for a weekend. But realistically, it is out of the way for a lot of people. The closest major airport is Norfolk, VA, and it’s a 2 – 3 hour drive, depending on the date. You have to figure that’s like 8 hours of back and forth travel time, which isn’t cool when you’re flying in for a day or two.

          Southern Cali, NYC, Chicago or Southern FLA make a lot more sense

          • salin

            Don’t forget ultimate travel destinations of Cleveland and Indianapolis!

            • Miss Tia

              and Chicago!!

          • Jimmy3

            I should add to clarify, that is 8 hours just from airport to OBX, and doesn’t include the time on the flights people would be flying in on.

      • Nat-leficent

        F5 for horror movie opening scene XD

        • beauty for ashes

          oh girl you are sharp today!

      • flyonthewall

        i call dibs on the funhouse!

        • Nat-leficent

          F5

          • flyonthewall

            saved!

    • Lurkness

      Phoenix

    • Lurkness

      Anyplace will work; I’m all in option.

    • Susan black

      Is bunkerama 2016 gonna be just a vacation? Aren’t we at war? I vote to gather as close to our enemy,s turf as possible. Tampa maybe?

      • Miss Tia

        we mentioned that last night and why have them annoying us? plenty of events have been held there…..

        • Susan black

          I WANT to annoy them. I want to see them go on attack with more of their footbullets.

          • Miss Tia

            well if someone wants to do that, that’s certainly your personal right to do…..i could go find a street to sit in the sun and read a book πŸ™‚

    • Science Doc

      My vote would be for Los Angeles. Sure, one of my houses is in LA, but think of the protest/tour opportunities. All the stuff on Hollywood Blvd., PAC and Museum of Death on Sunset, Pasadena, Valley, and Inglewood Orgs, the publication operation in Commerce. It would be great. Put it in LA and I’ll volunteer for the local arrangements committee.

      • Miss Tia

        i don’t think we’re going to protest….we want to gather and meet in person…..perhaps i’m wrong, but i think it’s more about us, than them….though of course, it’s them that brought us together!

    • Chee Chalker

      Chicago…….it’s great in the summer!
      Where was Howdy from? Boston? Maybe we do it there in honor of him

      • Miss Tia

        isn’t boston expensive?

        • Chee Chalker

          Probably…. Plus the driving is supposed to be bad.
          I think we need to be practical…if we meet in winter we think about Florida or California. Any other time, we make it the Midwest……and Chicago is in the middle!

          Milwaukee is nice too

          • Miss Tia

            It was suppose to be next summer….

            • Chee Chalker

              Mmmm. Well I like to travel and I’d like to actually see some real life Scibots….I think Tampa/St. Pete is as good as any place.
              Though Florida is HOT in the summer……L
              Vegas could be fun or Colorado
              We just have too many choices, so I’ll be quiet now and vote when the time comes……
              I will say, from a truly biased position, Chicago is a lot of fun in the Summer.
              Not so much in the winter…

    • Miss Tia

      CSU went to like $30 something a night if you had 2 people in a double……it was $50 for a one bedroom/one bath…..

      thanks for the ETA…..accessibility, cost, etc all have to be considered…..

    • Lurkness

      NYC. Spoke with Columbia University. Last summer the conference rates were $85 for a single and $75 per person for a double. Expect rates to go up 3-5% for 2016.

      • Miss Tia

        Did that include linen (never heard of that til I saw that on CSU, though that makes sense for a dorm though)? Good idea phoning them! Doh!! Didn’t think of that!!

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Okay, this news has hit big now. Mr. Free, who does not share my obsession so I do not talk to him about it, asked me this morning if I had been following the suicide of Jim Carrey’s ex girlfriend. There was an article in our local paper including the $cilon connection.

    • Sherbet

      I think Mr. Free has taken a big step up the Bridge to Total SPism. Congratulations to both of you.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Thanks Sherb!

  • salin

    9.0 on the Richter Scale

    After the 9.0 Gibney-Wright Quake rattled and weakened the Ron Andavids Fault, concerns had been raised that the Earth-Shaker might have been caused by hyperbolic joking and degrading. The Scientific Community has responded: “No Fracking Way!”

    Meanwhile TUML tremors have been followed by the Ortegarama Global Tour After-Schocks. Some in the LA region are taking notice of the great fissure line through which thetans are leaking. Porous facade indicate diminishing crowds at obligatory unveilings. Too which Karin KaPow responded: That’s some Redoubtable Prune Juice.

    Concerns have been raised that recent seismic activity indicates two more quakes are too hit in the next 3-4 weeks. To which we resoundingly respond: Hunker Down Diminutive Disparager, Tectonic Shifts from Hemet to Flag are heading your way!

  • Why would anyone be surprised to learn that Scientology used or uses sex to manipulate people? Scientology is an offshoot of a sex magik cult. Why would using sexy women/men to get what you want be a shock? There are hundreds of beautiful women that are or have at one time been on staff at Celebrity Centre and Bridge publications. Why? The recruiters were young, VERY attractive men who used sexy charm to get those girls to join the Sea Org. In the course room when we had a difficult student and needed to charm them into staying late or coming in early or something we would use the “S” method. “S” standing for SEXY. And if it was a man, usually I would go and “Talk” with him. Being sure to lean over the desk ever so slightly so that our, ill fitting blouses would drape open even further and they would be distracted by my breasts while I asked them to do what I wanted. Or one of the cute boys would turn on the charm with the ladies. Back massages, jokes, outright flirting. What ever it took. But of course that was all OK because it was for the “greatest good for the greatest number of Dynamics”. It was “Pro Survival”. It was “Command Intention”. We were “helping” them.

    • EmmaDaoust

      And it’s called workplace sexual harassment. Wow, Nora, just wow.

      • Mark Foster

        But, but, but…Emma, your puny wog mind and laughable meat-sack-driven sensibilities simply cannot confront, much less conceptually grasp, the grandeur, complexity, and URGENCY of the mission to salvage Teegeeack!

        Tetas y culo, vamos a ir!

        • EmmaDaoust

          Oh, I get it, Mark. I know about Moses David’s ‘flirty fishers’. The ends justifies the means and all that. Some cults use sex full on in their control, some use celibacy. Scientology uses both in the most twisted way.

          • jazzlover

            It’s a “we don’t know what we want” conundrum for the greater good, I tell ya.

    • salin

      ‘Spiritual Enlightenment’ sans humility replaced with egocentricity. So fitting given the Source.

    • Kim O’Brien

      that is fucking creepy as hell . Just fyi

      • I know. I hate looking back on that part of my life and seeing what I did for the “cause’.

        • Beth

          I hear you Nora. But you need to know it goes on almost everywhere in the business world. I’ve been shocked by what Ive seen and heard over the years. People are much more careful about what they say these days, for fear of lawsuits, but the mentality is still there.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      This explains so much. thnks

    • jazzlover

      Ok, Nora, don’t get offended. It’s just a result of my woggy NYC way to point out the unintended appropriateness of the phrase “been on staff”. Carry on πŸ˜‰

      • Beth

        Another stellar graduate of the Beavis and Butthead School of Language Arts. You do the boys proud JL πŸ˜‰

        • jazzlover

          Yes, I aim to please πŸ˜‰

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Well, that sounds ecclesiastical, doesn’t it?

    • Ralph Hunter

      did you hang your tits in his face like Shelly said Jenny did?

    • jane456

      Very common method used in many cults. Children of God called it flirty fishing. My cult did it, they put the young very attractive people out there as greeters. They were always watching peoples proclivities so they could fuck with them one way or another. It’s another way to control people, through their sexuality. They take what is normal and healthy and twist it so many ways. It is humiliating to be fucked with like this and humiliation and shame add to the control recipe.

      I am sad for these people in Ms. White’s circle, even the hard core kool aid drinkers. They are being used and exploited and for what?

    • Pepper

      Right, Nora. And don’t forget that while the attractive young man or woman is recruiting, they stare into the eyes of the recruited one. They tell them how special, intelligent, and beautiful they are. They call them constantly on their cell phone and do not let them off the phone. They zero in on their mark like a really good predator; the cat who wants to eat the canary. They make the recruited kid feel like they are chosen for something truly wonderful and special, and that they are a cut above everyone else. This can go on for weeks or months at a time. I had a first row seat to this behavior for years between all of my kids.

      Once a guy I had never seen before in his mid-late twenties showed up at my home and told me he was taking my 15 daughter down to the org. “Don’t worry” he said, “she’s in good hands.” Just like that, he expected that I would agree to this. I told him “No, I don’t know you” and I told him that I don’t allow any of my kids to go off with adults that I don’t know. He seemed puzzled by this and asked me what I meant by that. I repeated what I said and told him “that’s the way it is.” He was zeroed in on her and fawning all over her. It gave me the creeps. I made it clear that she wasn’t going anywhere and that him driving to my home to just pick her up and take her out was completely unacceptable to me, and to not ever do that again.

      The CoS knows exactly what they are doing when they use attractive young men and women to recruit the opposite sex. They use the young, pretty people in the Sea Org to do this. Don’t be hard on yourself. You were young and indoctrinated at the time, and yes, the recruiters believe that they are “helping” people to get them onto the Sea Org, and that the Sea Org is the best thing for teens/young adults.

    • Jester1137

      Moonies play the same game. Had one of their recruiters working on trying to get me in, she’d meet me daily during my downtown bus transfer and flirt like mad for 10-15 minutes. Big hugs, tons of smiles, lots of touching and hair flipping. Second time, I asked her if she wanted to go catch a movie. She wanted me to sign up for some 500 dollar two day Moonie “ski trip” instead.

      After that, it was just a game. She knew I knew what was up and I wasn’t signing up for anything, and I knew she was a Moonie who wasn’t ever going to be allowed to date a guy or have a boyfriend until the cult told her to marry someone. Still flirted with her for a few minutes everyday until the semester ended.

  • Tony Ortega

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3262070/Jim-Carrey-s-ex-girlfriend-Cathriona-White-married-Mark-Burton-time-death.html#ixzz3nnnWy2WW

    Mark Burton is the name of the husband, cameraman and sound mixer, may have married Cat in January 2013.

    There’s a Mark D. Burton in the completions database, showing involvement in Scientology from 1989 to 2006. Lives in LA, but may have lived in Clearwater too.

    Any of our exes know about Mark? Please drop me a line, pronto.

    • Tony Ortega

      Here’s what he looks like

      • Tony Ortega

        Daily Mail thinks this is the Mark Burton who married Cat…

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          Well, at least he’s nailed the Stepford Smiler look.

        • Tony Ortega

          I think those are both wrong. Working on it.

          • Sherbet

            A West Coast Mark Burton makes an unlikely Red Sox fan (note the “B” on his cap), so it’s probably not this guy.

            • jazzlover

              Is that a Red Sox OR Brooklyn Dodgers cap? The Brooklyn cap would make more sense in LA.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              If you peak his fb pages. It’s Brooklyn Dodgers and this person is from LA and lives there.

            • Missionary Kid

              There’s a lot of Red Sox fans in L.A. I believe that’s a Brooklyn cap.

            • jazzlover

              They’re all over the place I tell ya πŸ˜‰ One of my biggest surprises when I visited the HOF in Cooperstown was that most baseball fans walking around were indeed Red Sox fans. Geographically speaking, though, it’s not really too big of a surprise.

            • Sherbet

              You’re correct. It’s not a “B.” Never mind.

            • Sherbet

              I believe I was wrong, jazz.

            • jazzlover

              I dunno. I have a difficult time telling the difference. I wasn’t saying that with any sort of certainty. Just wondering aloud. The Dodgers were off to LA before I was born, so I didn’t really have any familiarity with them. I’m just unlucky to have become a fan of the team created in their wake πŸ˜‰

    • Richard

      From a comment in the DM
      “Mark Damian Burton and Cathriona White got married in Las Vegas, January 14, 2013.”

      • Tony Ortega

        Yeah, but that’s not confirmed.

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          I assume Cat would have been in under even more pressure if she was married to a guy who had blown or routed out?

      • Sherbet

        (What is it about the names “Mark” and “Marc” in scientology? There seem to be a whole bunch of them. And then there’s Mark Bunker.)

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          Scientology is ruining Mark the same way A Christmas Carol ruined Ebenezer.

          • salin

            LOL

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          My first middle name is Mark, does that count?

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            Yes.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Damn-going to have to leave it as an initial now πŸ™‚

            • Sherbet

              Switch to “Ebenezer.”

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Hahahaha-OK, I’ll give it a trial run!

            • Sherbet

              We also have Mark Foster and Mark (from the UK) on our side.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              As long as we’ve got more Marks on our side, it’ll even out the balance!
              (Tried Ebenezer, didn’t like it, reckon I’ll stick to Mark πŸ™‚ )

            • Mark Foster

              brothers from different mothers πŸ™‚

            • Sherbet

              Throw in Mark Bunker, and you can be the SP Triplets.

          • jazzlover

            How many “middle” middles do you have? πŸ˜‰

            • salin

              Scn Mark Monkey Matthew Mookey Nut$ ?? πŸ˜€

            • jazzlover

              LOL

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              πŸ™‚ close, but no cigar!

            • Observer

              Most British people I know have two.

            • jazzlover

              I have two only because I was “Catholicked” πŸ˜‰ I am not British, however.

            • Observer

              A high school friend of mine has five middle names, for the rather grim reason that her mother had had five miscarriages before my friend was born. Her mother gave her one middle name for each.

            • Sherbet

              Wow.

            • jazzlover

              Sorry to hear about that, of course. I had a friend named Maria in high school who had 2 sisters, also named Maria. They were differentiated by their middle names. She told me it was part of the Spanish culture.

            • ze moo

              Bobbi Jo, Bobbi Jean, Bobbi Sue,…… have you ever been to the American South??

            • jazzlover

              I have, but I never ask people their names πŸ˜‰

            • Ralph Hunter

              Lol!!!

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Wowsers! That’s one hell of a burden for a person to have to bear.

            • Observer

              She didn’t seem to mind

            • Jo

              True, then there’s confirmation names too, only saints can apply.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Just the two-the other one is the Greek name for ‘Bearer of Christ’, which is ironic given how much of an atheist I am!

            • Sherbet

              That’s my son’s name, too, and he’s got that same irony going on, Monkey.

            • jazzlover

              Given that I grew up in a Greek neighborhood, I’d feel worse for you if you were Greek πŸ˜‰

              (I am just kidding)

            • Ella Raitch

              Awww – are you a nice Greek boy like Mr Xenophon?

              Hey – are you Mr Xenophon?

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              That would be really cool, but (regrettably) I am not the Senator. I am of the nation that, on the arrival of a plane load of us at the terminal and after the switching off of the engines, the whining fails to cease πŸ™‚ (You know, the country that was beaten by Aus by 20 points at a recent sporting event!)

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        There’s a Mark D. Burton with an IMDB page, but no photos or bio or anything: http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1047666/

      • Bernie

        If true, maybe to remain in the States legally if she was on a limited visa.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X
    A quick reminder:
    We take their bait and switch fraudulent ads down. Join us.
    Two ways – Flag them (Red-X) and via a complaint to CL
    RedX tips & Complaints procedure are now included in the google doc under the RedXTips tab.
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Tick Tock, Dave

    • salin

      If you can’t do a major whack now – take a couple of seconds and swipe at these (we disappeared a Philly ad yesterday.) http://tonyortega.org/2015/10/06/scientology-spied-on-jim-carrey-to-get-him-on-purif-says-former-exec/#comment-2292912270

      And come back later for the full whackamotion!

      • Sherbet

        My Boston CL complaint yielded another auto-email telling me they got it. Big deal.

        • salin

          As a teacher I took the ‘I will out obstinate you’ approach when students really didn’t want to do something like… HW. With enough fortitude (and stubbornness), I eventually started getting the homework. Right now that is how I am thinking about the Boston CL admin.

          That said, it’s hard to believe they keep turning a blind eye to 20-30 repetitions of the same exact ad.

          • Sherbet

            I’ll keep pummeling them and hope they get the message.

  • Jo

    The part were they let there victims take drugs, before detox, is pure cruelty

    • salin

      Worse than “let”, strategically get them to take drugs or alcohol – in order to include detox (billable!) in addition to the ‘drug treatment’ program. Sadistic and Greedy.

      • Drive them to the damned dealer! (I wonder if they’ll suggest a dealer if the person doesn’t know anyone?)

        • MostEthicalPimp

          From what I’ve heard they’d probably will just let them bum some from their personal stash.

          • Bum? This is Scientology; no one rides for free.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              The insurance corp pays!

    • Miss Tia

      also unethical, immoral, wrong, criminal, beyond fucked up!

    • QbirdSP

      good day to ya Jo!

      • Jo

        Hi Qbird x

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    I did not realize that Catriona White’s body was not found for four days. That is heartbreaking and speaks volumes for how little scientology really cares about its followers.

    • Jimmy3

      But not really. It speaks to her friends and family not checking on her. Scientology is a blatant scam. It is horrible. But we can’t fault them for not checking on a person in a period of 4 days. Because if they were calling her at all hours, everyday, they would be heavily criticized for that, too. We can mock them and shame them, but we can’t have it both ways.

      • Observer

        The Eye of Saurscavige is on bigger fish.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        I thought her friends were scientologists. I’m not mocking them, I am appalled that this young woman was so isolated despite having all of these so-called scientology friends.

        • Jimmy3

          I can see what you mean now. It does seem like they were more concerned about her after the fact. So much for the greatest communicators on planet Teegeeack :/

  • When tagging stories, I’ve had a problem how to classify the people shafted by Scientology front groups like Narconon. Finally I thought of a category: Narconon plaintiff. (Didn’t like victim.)

    So when I created another one for WISE, my fingers typed: WISE plaintive.

    I have to watch those fingers.

    • ze moo

      Perhaps a fraudulian slip?

  • Ninara Poll
    • salin

      Scroll down – our Proprietor is working on not if, but who (or which Mark).

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Policy Punch for the Day:

    PUBLIC IMAGE

    For a long while we have not had an exactly stated policy on building a public image. We have just been ourselves and done our jobs and hoped somebody would catch on. This is basically what protected us. And we should keep doing it.

    But the time has come to also build a public image as an outflow publicity action.

    The image is:

    SCIENTOLOGISTS ARE THE PEOPLE WHO ARE CLEANING UP THE FIELD OF MENTAL HEALING AND EFFECTIVELY HANDLING MENTAL HEALTH ON THE PLANET.

    http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/4779

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s more like $cientology is flushing mental healing down the toilet.

  • Cars

    Mike Rinder’s post today is titled “Going Clear is Everywhere” http://www.mikerindersblog.org/going-clear-is-everywhere/

    He ends the post with this teaser:

    Miscavige’s annus horribilis is just not getting any better.

    Next up: Louis Theroux’s My Scientology Movie at the London Film Festival on October 14.

    Followed by Leah Remini’s 20/20 ABC TV interview on 30 October and release of her book Troublemaker on 3 November.

    It sucks to be Miscavige.

    All this and more that has not yet been disclosed. [bold formatting is my emphasis]

    And then the Academy Award nominations to start out the New Year with a bang (Jan 14). 2016 will be the Golden Age of Annus Horribilis II.

    • Mary Smith

      I find this ad below hilarious. Maybe DM should attend?

      • Mary Smith

        trying again to paste the mailer.

    • Bob

      It’s called PR Area Control. Miscavige is out the top on bad PR for Scientology. This year will be highest, highest ever for the cherch. He is obviously doing something right to flush Scientology down the toilet.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I love how they make themselves seem crazy and unstable. I had a new thought that they think acting erratic and out of control will scare away the people who might decide to speak out against them. Really, they need a few slaves but what they really need is whales to drive their IAS, Real Estate scam. They have to know that this behavior gives them bad PR. But possibly you’d get some bad attention, which is better than no attention at all? I wish I could figure out their angle as they’ve hired heavy duty PR firms in the past to work on their image.

        • Bob

          Todd, there is no angle. They are taking orders from a madman who has no clue how to deal with human beings. I’ve watched many, many clams fold because they were never taught to handle people in a human way. No PR firm on the planet can fix Scientology now as they would be fired instantly for telling the truth.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            The PR firms of the past never told the truth.

  • Tony Ortega

    NEW STORY IS UP

    • Ella Raitch

      Scoopy Ortega strikes again

  • Scientology Is A Dead-End Road

    The look on Greg Wilhere’s face is hypnotic, if I ever saw the look.
    I met Greg in D.C. in 1974. His wife has passed away.

    • Bob

      Do you mean his current wife Sandy or the one in 1974?

  • Jenny Griffith

    The indoctrination begins.

    • Ella Raitch

      Do you know where this was taken? Looks Latin American.

      • MCurie

        Yellow sign in upper left says Volunteer Minister Philippines

  • PlanetJ

    I know some of you that read this blog and comment everyday..or just lurk,that were in the SO,OSA and other parts of the “chult” that had to deal with this type of stuff,or both sides,that are now out(Thank Goodness!) Had to do some shady shit! When I read about it,it’s like watching a TV show like “Black List” or some other kind of top secret ,real life spy show …
    But WOW,at the lengths the cult would/will go to,to try and get their hooks into some people that have a lot of money, people with political pull & power,anyone that has a large platform where people will listen to them..singers,artists..etc..and most of all,celebrities..it is unbelievable!

    It seems like they don’t care who they mess with or ruin in the process,as long as they get what they want..A face to use for their shit “chult”..
    It’s so messed up,that if these people they are trying to pull into the fold get a wiff of what is going on..or just decide they don’t want to be apart of the organization..or the ones that have been in for a long time and want out..they are harassed beyond belief,sued (if they start talking), or set up and lied about.

    Some people..like this young lady,Cathriona White.. IMO..I believe she had a good heart..and the Co$ tried, but couldn’t turn it black. She probably knew what might happen to her,if she failed in her mission. ..I’m not saying her mission was to trap Jim C. into becoming a Scio. It could have been something totally different. But IF that was the case..she knew what would more than likely happen to her (RPF maybe??). From what I’ve read and the video’s I’ve watched..falling out of favor,is not at all a good thing to happen to someone in the “chult”.
    Where’s Shelly?? Where’s Heber Jentzsch? Where was Mark,Marty the Headley’s, and countless others,before they ran “Blew”?…. Not at a nice mediterranean spa taking a vacation,that’s for sure. Unless, that is, you consider the RPF “the hole” camp a nice vacation. Which I doubt anyone would.

    Yup..falling out of favor in not a good thing in Co$ land.

    To all of you lurkers that are still in…PLEASE.PLEASE,PLEASE,start making plans to get out! At least..start really looking into the TRUTH..not what you have been taught..but the REAL truth!
    PS..Call your disconnected loved ones..the miss you more than you could ever know! xoxo

  • Bob Crouch

    Nicolas Cage had a thing with scn? I should’ve known. After all, he’s in financial trouble now

  • Jgg2012

    Is there any other religion that spies on people?

  • I think Jim Carrey and Scientology could have gone well together – Carrey is a believer in the pseudoscientific myth that vaccines cause autism and uses his celebrity to promote that dangerous message – a message that leads to children not being vaccinated and getting diseases that were once almost history, now coming back to cause real harm. He must be having a tough time, and I’m sorry for that on a personal level, but he *is* susceptible to nonsense.

  • El Con Blubbard

    Scientology – 6 degrees of “The Pyschs”

    A perfect justification to blame the tragedies on…

    I recall a “Industry of Death” exhibit was cancelled at a local mall. I was told by the
    DSA that it was “The Psychs”….some retailer had a wife that had a husband’s cousin’s sister’s brother’s mother’s father’s niece twice removed – connected to A PSYCH!

    The Church of Scientology was “Persona Non Grata” – not welcome to put up the display in the mall albeit the mall was dead and out of any decent foot traffic….most of it was shut down…so that is the ONLY reason the landlord considered letting the cult in.

    Ewwww…I still shudder when I think about how crazy it got…

    What does that fat ole turd say about PTS TypeIII – the SP’s are everywhere…martians, FBI agents and THE PSYCH’S

    Scientology has been in an incident of long duration….LRH’s demented battle with the “The Psychs”…

  • Deborah Brown Costet

    scientology is a cult not a religion, not God fearing or Biblical, an evil, money seeking, evil disguise of an answer to peoples searching for fulfillness…. Evil cult, watch out for the cool aid !!!!

  • Scientology needs to be stopped and one way to do it would be by using their own tactics against them. This is an evil organization that needs to be discredited by using any methods available, save for anything they can leverage for martyrdom.

    I know you guys do a great job here at the bunker; as someone that was never in scientology but has been keeping an eye on it for 20 years or so I have to admit I am at a loss as to what anyone can do to make regular people take a look at their “religion” and convince them that it is all a giant sham.
    The “revelations” that have accumulated at their doorstep would have sunk any other organization, let alone any political figure. Yet, they keep going. Their membership may be down, but in a world where people seem to employ their skeptical abilities to “doubt” things like the Holocaust, the Moon Landing or even the multiple school massacres that pollute our news on a weekly basis, I really don’t know what more can be done.

    The frigging sheriff in charge of the Oregon shooting investigation was himself one of the “skeptics” that did not believe Sandy Hook was a real event, but rather one staged by the Obama administration to impose gun control on their people (80% of which agree some form of gun control would be a good idea). Now that it happened on his doorstep, he has purified his facebook page of the various conspiracy theories as if he never was the nutcase he is.

    Yet Scientology has accumulated a body of evidence that is by now undeniable and I don’t see many people clamoring for something to be done. Some would rather fight against the fantasy of a government takeover (Latest news: They already took over. It’s our government. They have no need to conquer Texas, you Jade Helm imbeciles) then confront the cancer that is scientology.

    Certainly our leaders don’t seem to give a crap. Here is an organization that blackmailed the IRS and gained religious exemption by methods that would make North Korea green with envy, yet no one lifts a finger against them.

    I am at a loss. I hope you guys have some sort of plan, because I find it hard to live in a world where LRH minions are free to brainwash people in a delusional cult.

    • Ella Raitch

      The plan is to keep exposing and getting things out into the open.

      The internet, Anonymous and all of the stories from ex-Scientologists have slowed new membership to a dribble, which has in turn sent Scientology to Latin America, Taiwan and the Eastern Bloc, but you can guarantee that negative press will eventually start drying this up to.

      Narconon has been put under the microscope in a huge way.

      Scientology continues because it has amassed massive wealth which is being used for legal protection.

      In order to keep going it has to hunker down further and further from the outside world and apply more and more pressure to keep those it has in the mindfuck – especially the wealthy donors. The more pressure is applied, the more those who are not completely brainwashed will become disaffected.

      It is these donors and the lawyers/PIs keeping it afloat.

      Most of us couldn’t care less about the wealthy and deluded who are in it for the ego-strokes, however many families are trapped because they have relatives still in – often in the Sea Org – and they risk disconnection.

      It can be frustrating to watch, but those who have been watching for decades will tell you that more damaging information has come out to more people in 2015 than in any other year of Scientology’s existence, and the flow of information shows no sign of abating.

      The current story – Theroux’s documentary in one week, Remini’s TV appearance shortly after, then her book, the Decrecenzo trial in December, Oscars in January….

      There is no place left to hide for Miscavige and his performing seal-celebrities.

      • Bob

        Correct. Implosion is eminent.

      • richelieu jr

        Yes, indeed.

        There is on need to stoop to their level. The information could be controlled, communist-bloc-style, then their Stalinist tactics worked, but today, they have far more active ‘enemies’ than active Scilons, and the Internet is always there,just a click away from undoing all of L Ron’s boondoggle…

        The official ‘cherch’ is imploding as we speak; You’ve shown up here just in time to watch– In ‘Titanic terms, we are just at the first time the end of the ship goes (straight?) up (&) vertical… It will slam down again and seems stable before sticking its ass up one last time on its way to the bottom…

        Truth is on our side. Fun, humour and freedom as well.

        I have always been more worried aboutt he “Indies”,e tc, who seem impervious to facts and e w information, clutching their ‘wins’ against their shrivelled chests like again Debutantes still holding all their invitations and dance cards, 50 years after the ball, still sure their ‘beau’ wil show up and sweep them off their fe– erm, walkers… Its Grey Gardens at St Hill proportions, folks!

        Now that Marty has dropped his ‘Scientology Warrior’ nonsense, they worry me less, as they ahve no leader and are not the sorts who lead themselves. They mill around Mike’s blog and give themselves pep talks and bad advice (which homeopathic meds work best, which win really m showed them the ‘truth’, etc, whilst shouting down any critics in the name of ‘Freedom of Speech is fine, up to a point (that point being any criticism of LRH)…

        My personal feeling at this point is they (prisoners aside) anyone involved with Davie & Ron’s Snake-Oil Special Money Loser-Palooza deserves what they get.

        • Ella Raitch

          John P’s hypothesis those few years ago at the VV seems to hold true – Indy status is a temporary holding pattern for complete exit from the cult – Mike R takes on people these days who can’t look honestly at LRH’s history

          • richelieu jr

            Yes, Mike has been a doing a much better job of late, in fact quite a good job indeed.

            As for the holding pattern, this is true in some cases, but the way off of heroin is not less expensive heroin– Chris Shelton and Jon Atack have the right idea, not the L RON Rehabiltation Project.

            Even in successful cases (such as Marty’s) you get things like strings of Pro-Hubbard books (full of things he purportedly no longer believes) still available on-line, making him a nickel every time some poor fool buys one to get reassured that Scientology had a lot of good points and Hubbard’s wonderful vision was only wrecked by Miscavige.

            Phooey.

            “Independent Scientology and Freezoners = The Willfully Blind (mis)Leading the Stupid”

            • Ella Raitch

              Marty is in a class of his own…seems lost in a desperate search for it all to have meant something.

              But I sincerely wish his family peace.

  • Gus Cox

    That photo of Claire and Marc is just so full of win.

  • Roger Larsson

    Somewhere back in the 50*th Hubbard said in a bulletine that jokers and degraders aren’t only evil pulling members off deck, they are also psychotic. If $cientology is a lifeboat there’s no wonder why this cult miss land.

  • indie8million

    Nick Cage. Oh NOWWWWWWWWWWW I understand why he had all sorts of money yet declared bankruptcy and his house was foreclosed on. Aha moment.