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Kathy Slevin, sister who attacked Paul Haggis on behalf of Scientology, dies at 60

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Last year, when Alex Gibney’s documentary Going Clear opened at theaters and then aired on HBO, Scientology leader David Miscavige struck back in a very characteristic way — with websites and videos denouncing Gibney and the people who appeared in the film.

Chief among them was Paul Haggis, the Oscar-winning writer and director who had left Scientology after 30 years and was the subject of Lawrence Wright’s 2011 New Yorker profile and then the book that the film was based on. Haggis was singled out for one of the harshest acts of retaliation. His sister, television writer and producer Kathy Slevin, appeared in a video at one of Scientology’s websites, accusing her brother of being a lifelong “con man” who was taking advantage of Wright and Gibney by pretending to be more involved in Scientology than he actually had been. She also said Haggis had only agreed to be interviewed by Wright as a cunning way to get himself profiled in the New Yorker.

We remember seeing the video when it first appeared, and how uncomfortable it was to watch. What Slevin said about her brother wasn’t credible in the slightest, and it was disturbing to see the way Scientology was using her to try and harm Haggis’s reputation.

This weekend, we learned that on October 12, Kathy Slevin succumbed after a fight with cancer. She was 60.

“My sister, Jo Francis, called me ten days ago to tell me that our sister Kathy had passed away,” Haggis told us when we messaged him for a comment. “We were both deeply saddened by the news, as was our entire family. I know very little about the circumstances; I had written Kathy when I heard she had cancer, but Kathy was a proud member of Scientology and was still receiving auditing, so I did not expect a response. I was happy that Jo was able to reconnect with Kathy in her last weeks, and visited her often. Jo told me that Kathy was with her husband and son when she passed, and I am sure that brought her great comfort. Her son, Mack, while now an adult, was always a great and loving boy, and my thoughts are especially with him.”

The Church of Scientology has said nothing about Kathy Slevin’s passing, or about her work. But we will.

“Paul and Kathy gave me my first job in television, working on Due South. It was a great experience,” says David Shore, who wrote for the Canadian crime comedy series in 1995, and went on to create the Fox medical drama series House along with many other producing and writing credits. “Due South was Paul’s show. Kathy was co-producer, and she did a great job. They kind of split up the workload in an unusual way. Paul kind of show-ran half the shows, and she ran the other half. They’re both smart and capable and did some great episodes.

“She was a talented writer. I think like all writers she had some demons. But she was talented and I learned a lot from her,” he says. “We worked long hours, and I enjoyed working with her. I remember sitting in her office into the wee hours and enjoying it. You felt like you were doing something, and your ideas mattered — they were both very good about that.”

By that time, 1995, Haggis had already appeared on the cover of Scientology’s Celebrity magazine. But we asked Shore, was he aware that Paul and his sister were Scientologists when he went to work on Due South?

“I don’t think I knew they were Scientologists. I did know by the end of the season. But neither one of them proselytized us in any way. I remember going to Paul’s house and seeing books by L. Ron Hubbard, but he never mentioned it.”

Kathy worked on several other series, including the CBS series Silk Stalkings, Fox Family’s The Zack Files, and, most recently, the web series Secret Diary of an American Cheerleader.

She was also a longtime public Scientologist, and attacked her own brother when she was asked to. But it’s important to keep in mind that Scientology operates mainly on fear, and Kathy would have been under intense pressure that her own “eternity” would be threatened by her brother’s defection. Haggis had become a “suppressive person,” and by Scientology law, it meant that anyone who wanted to remain in good standing with the church would have to “disconnect” from him. And, in Kathy’s case, it would have meant proving her loyalty by attacking Paul publicly, even though her accusations made little sense.

“The video saddened me because based on my knowledge of it, what she was saying just wasn’t true, the allegations she was making about Paul. And I can’t believe she thought they were true,” Shore says. “I sent Paul an email at that point. It had to be extraordinarily difficult to go through that. It can’t have been easy what he did, leaving Scientology. But I can’t imagine that there was anything more gut-wrenching than what his sister said.”

Haggis was only one of the figures in Going Clear who received that kind of treatment. Former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder, and former Scientologist Sara Goldberg were also attacked with testimonials by their own family members. It’s what Scientology does.

“I just always assumed there was going to be time for things to change,” Shore tells us. “This is not the way this relationship should have been. Smart, talented people who have been driven apart by circumstances and more. You hope that both of them see the light before it’s too late.”

Sadly, for Paul Haggis, that wasn’t the case. We extend our sympathies to him and the rest of his family.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on October 24, 2016 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
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GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
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Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
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  • CRACKED put out interesting article today.

    Some (many) scientology parallels. And yes, it was mentioned and so was Hubbard.

    “6 Things You Learn Living In (And Killing) A Cult”
    http://www.cracked.com/personal-experiences-2400-things-you-learn-dismantling-crazy-religious-cult.html

    • Rasha

      Absolutely favorite line: “Look, there’s just no budget for frills this year. Do we really need a Second Corinthians?”

      • Sorry, I am Bible illiterate. Can you please translate what I assume is sarcasm?

        • Rasha

          Not sarcasm, I just enjoyed the play on words. “We already have one Corinthians, do we really need a second one?”

          eta: “First Corinthians” and “Second Corinthians” are New Testament books

          • I know nothing about Corinthians thing to begin with. And afraid to Google it.

            • Rasha

              ^_^ No problem at all. It was a funny pun, that’s all.

            • Saw your eta. I think I get it now.

            • Rasha

              ^_^

            • LongtimeLurker

              They’re basically like Chapter 1, Chapter 2 etc.

              So to save money they’re saying lets drop a chapter.

            • salin

              In the bible there are different chapters and books. Then it is broken into further sub parts so that one can find a reference/reading. Because there are two books of Corinthians, the universal (across protestant and catholic churches) the distinction is “First Corinthians” (first book) and “Second Corinthians” (second book).

              However, the notation is 1 Corinthians, and 2 Corinthians. Note that there are some very frequent Christian sayings embedded in these two books, so even those Christians who are not real active or real religious are familiar with numerous references from one or the other book – and always the quote is referenced with the book number: First Corinthians, or Second Corinthians, and then the verse (sub category) ____.

              One unfamiliar and just reading could easily read it as One Corinthians, or 2 Corinthians. In recent decades as politics and religion got welded together to some degree in the republican party every candidate claims to be an active Christian. Trump has done the same. But in a very big speech early in the campaign, geared to get the Evangelical vote, he gave a speech to the student body of Liberty University (the college established by Jerry Fallwell, and now led by his son), he famously referred to “2 Corinthians” which was an obvious tell that he had no familiarity with a very commonly referenced part of the Bible – which to even those with very flighty knowledge of the bible would know is called “Second Corinthians”.

              Hope this gives the context. If you want to read accounts of the event from last January – Google Trump and “2 Corinthians.”

              Side note – as always, it is great to cross paths with you Dodo. :waves:

            • LongtimeLurker

              I’m a rabid atheist and I know it’s not “2 Corinthians”.

              Has he never watched a movie or TV show, ffs?

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Rasha is right—just a pun. Beyond that, first and second corinthians are letters of guidance and admonishment written from the apostle Paul to members of the early Christian church in Corinth a little over 5o years after the death of Christ. They are part of the New Testament and contain some of the most quoted passages of the Bible for Christians.

            • chukicita

              I always hear that word in Ricardo Montalban’s voice.

          • noseinabk

            Yep, had to recite these in Sunday school. Mathew, Mark , Luke, John, first corinthians, 2nd cor….ooh look glitter. ..I wonder whats for snack time.

            • Rasha

              HAHAHA!!! I honestly don’t remember anything from my very early childhood days when my parents took us to Catholic church and Sunday school… That didn’t last long. The only thing I have now that I had then was a very, very short attention span regarding things I’m not interested in, but if it strikes my fancy, I’ll iron all the paper money I have and sort my books by… ohhh… let’s do the color wheel this time.

            • noseinabk

              Iron money? And I thought I was ocd for wanting all my bills to face the same way. As far as sorting books, I have done them by cover and by author. Now my grandaughter has become a bookaholic so I needed to send a few to the basement so she would stop trying to hand me Steinbeck to read. The three lower shelves have been replaced with her books and toys. When she gets taller I will need to draw a line.

            • Rasha

              But not always!! If I have the iron out, and I have some wrinkly bills, sure, I’ll steam ’em flat, put ’em all face up and in alphanumeric order, what the hell.

              The kid hands you Steinbeck? LUCKEH!!!! Is this for you to read to her?

            • noseinabk

              Ha. She goes after all books. I love Steinbeck but I think I’ll stick with Pat The Bunny.

            • Missionary Kid

              Mathew, Mark , Luke, John,
              Saddle a goat, and then get on.

        • MarcabExpat

          The Bible is not actually a book but a collection of smaller works from different time periods. “Corinthians” is the name of two books in the New Testament (“New” indicating post-Christ) that are named that because they are a pair of letters from Saint Paul to the Corinthian people. So, they are “First Corinthians” and “Second Corinthians” but in print, the numbers are normally just spelled with a numeral. 1 Corinthians and 2 Corinthians.

          Which is why Donald Trump lumbered into a conservative Christian pulpit waving a Bible (which he had obviously never opened in his life) and stumbled over a line in his canned speech to the congregation. Instead of offering up a quote from “Second Corinthians” he called it “Two Corinthians.” Cue universal derision and a cavalcade of jokes, such as Rasha’s favorite, and also the obvious “Two Corinthians walk into a bar…”

          This has been “Donald Trump: The Media is Very Mean To Me,” Biblical edition.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Damn, how did I miss this? SMH
    “The Walking Dead” at the Celebrity Centre? The irony, it burns…
    (refresh)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2d16664d3acf04adbfe40aad108e295f8aca117744d6d667696c8deb4fd312ad.png

    • Rasha

      I am so hoping someone leaks photos of the event….. pleasepleasepleaseplease……

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Even with Joy in a costume 24/7, you know it has to be EPIC!

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          It was actually a little underwhelming. I am disappointed.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous
        • I guess she is now considered to be nominated for being one of the extras in The Walking Dead.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Emmy considered, my friend. Girl’s going for the considerated EGOT.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Did you just Emmy Grammy Oscar Tony?

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Yes, yes I did.

            • JaxNGold

              LOL

          • Chee Chalker

            ‘Walking Dead Considered’

        • Chee Chalker

          Before Purif
          After Purif

          • Rasha

            She’s running out radiation. Must be the Niacin.

            But honestly. That “costume” shouts “NO EFFORT MADE AT ALL”. What is it…. “Burn victim”? “Paintball competition loser”?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Cake decorating explosion?
              Fell asleep in a kindergarten?

              It’s very lazy.

            • Rasha

              I just feel ill thinking of all her hangers-on who will laud her as “Amazing!” and “Awesome!” for her “Incredible costume, OMG!”

            • chukicita

              Burn victim was my exact thought!

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        But here’s the funny thing: even out of costume, Joy appears to maintain zombie face. (F5)

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/740e00bf5425fc1d6a30b5a6e870948f3298d94d2223b43d7253f90673521d22.png

        • Rasha

          “Here… I’ll post the one where everyone else is washed out… No, no need to retake. It’s done.”

    • Supper Powers

      Totally.

    • LongtimeLurker
      • LongtimeLurker

        I’m losing track of which Joy images I’ve already posted. I need a system.

        • Supper Powers

          You need to retrofit a motorized tie rack for them.

          • LongtimeLurker

            That is awesome and terrifying.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        HE NEEDS TO STOP WITH THE OLD MAN SKINNY JEANS!!

        I apologize for the yelling, but I feel that it’s justified in this case. These are extreme fashion circumstances.

        • Rasha

          No, you are absolutely in the right. The whole….. thing…… just wrong……

          • LongtimeLurker

            I already told 5 Feet this, but I think I should tell everyone.

            I’m only a few years younger than him, and I also…skinny jeans.

            Not as stupid as his, but still.

            Sigh…I have become what I fought. I looked into the Thorsten, and the Thorsten looked back at me.

            • Rasha

              If you can rock it well, then fine. He looks silly.

              …are you a hipster Lurker?

              eta: Just messin’ with ya.

            • LongtimeLurker

              My legs are way better than his.

              Hipster? No, not really. I have facial hair right now, but not usually.

              My ex was younger than me and so my “style” changed a bit under her influence. I think that’s how I ended up with skinny pants.

              But I got her into classic 50s style, so the karmic balance is probably even.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Oh, if I could dress like Traci Lords in Cry-Baby, I would. But alas, I’m too short.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I hear ya. I wish I could Brando-white-T-shirt, but I’m too skinny.
              F5
              http://www.realclearlife.com/wp-content/uploads/2036/06/GettyImages-97205269-e1466099362271-570×800.jpg

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Oh babes, don’t fret. Like Rasha says: if you can rock it, rock it. If you’re Thorsten Overgaard, don’t. I still stuff my little muffin top into places it doesn’t belong, and I own it.

              Re-reading that last sentence, I probably should’ve phrased that better. But I’m just gonna let it ride, and eat some more cookies.

            • LongtimeLurker

              ; )

            • Rasha

              XD <3

            • Ew. XD

            • Torngarter Oversteer is clearly being dressed by Joyvilla the Hunny.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Torngarter Oversteer is the best thing that’s happened to me all day.

              Thank you.

      • Chee Chalker

        Well, that explains that relationship……he got some mo-nay and she’s spending it.
        This reminds me of the Real Housewives of New Jersey when Joe built Melissa a studio in their house so she could record an album.
        Melissa’s version of ‘Amazing Grace’ includes this lyric:
        “Amazing grace, how sweet the sound, that saved a wench like me”

        I wonder if Melissa is also ‘Grammy considered?’

        I asked Joy (on Twitter) what that meant….crickets

        • LongtimeLurker

          Did you really ask her? That’s great.

          Yeah, he’s the one from family money and with a real job.

          • He’s really quite a good photographer. Crap critical thinking skills, but the man can wield a Nikon.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I agree. I have deliberately not mentioned it, so people will find it easier to dislike him.

              I’m probably part of some global conspiracy.

            • Reptiloid. I thought so. The nictating membrane was a clear giveaway.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I was so busy trying to hide my tail and head spines, I complete forgot to not blink. Boy am I gonna be in trouble when I get back to the mothership.

            • Rasha

              LOL

            • Rasha

              Conspire Globally
              Act Locally

          • Chee Chalker

            I did! I’m trying to take a picture of my tweet but I can’t figure it out
            She tweeted some link to a Tom Cruise article and I asked her a question about his marriages.

            She hasn’t blocked me yet. She must not warrant her own OSAbot who trolls social media on her behalf. So she’s forced to read her own tweet responses.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Reading her own Tweets! The horror.

              You on an iPad by any chance?

            • Chee Chalker

              No an iPhone

            • LongtimeLurker

              Does this help?

              “Simply press and hold the “Sleep/Wake” button and then press the “Home” button. …
              Once a screenshot is captured, it will be automatically saved to your iPhone 6 Camera Roll.”

              Sleep/wake is the button on the top edge, Home is the indented one under the screen.

            • Chee Chalker
            • LongtimeLurker

              Pleasure!

              I saw that article, too.

            • Chee Chalker

              Now I have to find the one with my tweet….more to follow

              I’ve only had an iPhone for about 2 months. I finally caved and switched
              From android.
              Still getting used to it

            • LongtimeLurker

              Once you know it, the screencap thing becomes second nature, but the first time I read it I was like “wha?”

            • Chee Chalker
            • LongtimeLurker

              Go you! ; )

      • daisy

        To be technical are they * humans of any city.

        • Robert Eckert

          The humans of New York are left of the tree, kind of out-of-focus, not really a great picture of them.

      • daisy

        That is because no one offered any ransom.

        • Rasha

          BAHAHAHA!!!!

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Welcome home, D! ; )

          • daisy

            Glad to be back . Need to see more of you though.

      • chukicita

        I wonder if he holds on to her passport.

        • LongtimeLurker

          You’re bad. Nice work.

          Added “ew”, for those who didn’t know…

          He. Smokes. A. Pipe.

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • daisy

      i would be perfect at that job, but 2;30 to 4;30 is when i score my meth and cook it. I wonder if they will switch the time.

      • stillgrace2

        Funny!

  • LongtimeLurker

    Meanwhile, on Kirstie Alley’s Twitter;

    ” UGH!!!!! Flu!!!! So stupid !!! I hate to be sick!!! I might have to slug myself in the head for proper punishment!!! THIS IS SOOOO DUMB!!! “

    • Rasha

      …let’s see…. “Clear”…. “OT III”….. “OT IV”… blah blah blah….. “…OT VIII”. Hmm. Does she not notice something amiss?

      • LongtimeLurker

        And then to publicly tweet about it? Clueless.

    • Supper Powers

      She’s going to have to put $15,000 in the Scientology overt jar.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Prolly some damn SP on the set used evil psych tech on her.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Omg, it gets better. Someone responded with;

      ” @kirstiealley I remember you had flu last year and the other year too..maybe time to consider that Flu shot ”

      OT, Kirstie…you’re doing it wrong.

      • MarcabExpat

        If she didn’t have me blocked I’d ask her whether she has attested to the Flu Rundown.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I would be your Tweet-sock, but I haven’t logged on in months and I’m afraid of my account.

    • She is a potential trouble source

      • LongtimeLurker

        She sure is.

      • Rasha

        Perpetual trouble source. FIFY. 😉

    • Very OT.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Ikr? So un-self aware.

      • Rasha

        Though to be completely honest here, just for a sec… I would really REALLY like to see her punch herself for, like, 8 hours. 10. 10 hours.

    • JaxNGold

      Seriously, if I didn’t know this was a tweet from Kirstie, I would assume it was written by some silly little 12 year old girl. Who describes having the flu as “stupid” and “dumb”? It’s so juvenile.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Good point. Very good point.

        Now I’m tempted to do a quiz. “12 year old girl or Kirstie Alley, who said it?”

        • Rasha

          YES

          eta: This is a perfect HowdyCon game. Start compiling now, and we can do a live game with the attendees and Bunks who can only HowdyCon vicariously. OMX, this would be fun!

          • LongtimeLurker

            Okay, great idea! I will.

            When is HowdyCon?

        • MarcabExpat

          Best game since “Germany or Florida?” And you’ll never run out of suitable quotes.

    • chukicita

      I thought clears didn’t get the stupid flu.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Also, she’s well past Clear, right?

        So not only shouldn’t she get the flu, no one around her should, and she can go back and make it that younger Kirstie never did, also.

        Or something.

    • Graham

      She has flu and she doesn’t see that this means SHE’S NOT OT VIII?! How could an OT VIII pull in something as basic as flu? Good job there’s OT IX and OT X just round the corner. That’ll fix it. Yeah. Definitely.

      Does she look brainwashed to you?

      [edited for misplaced word]

      • LongtimeLurker

        Graham, IKR?!

        On the one hand she’s probably crippled by the Sunk Cost Fallacy; she’s invested decades and dollars and massive amounts of emotional commitment into Scientology, so she has to keep believing in it.

        And when you combine that with what you pointed out “the next level, that will definitely be when I get what’s been promised to me…

        But on the OTHER hand, she’s sharing it publicly. Surely it’s much easier to convince yourself of something if you avoid thinking about any evidence that it might be BS, right?

        Tweeting (multiple times) must bring it to the forefront of her mind?

        Weird.

        Weird.

      • It’s the work of an SP. She would never have suffered those symptoms (the ‘flu virus is a myth) if she had identified this person as per LRH standard tech. She pulled it in – and may will cure it (after a few days) by disconnecting from someone. That’s why it’s “dumb”. she could easily have avoided it.

        That kind of thinking is evidently sustainable (if deeply flawed) because people do follow it. The meta-problem that does not seem to occur to Scientologists at all is the question as to why SPs are so powerful that they can bring down an OT every time.

        Perhaps it’s because admitting such a thing is going to require a lot of additional ‘processing’. Since Scientology always works, you must have ‘falsely attested’ and might even have to repeat lots of ‘courses’ that nearly drove you out of you mind the first time around.

        There is a kind of internal logic, which is invalid because it proceeds from false assumptions, which functions to serve the interests of the CofS (which was made to want money and power) not the individual member.

    • Missionary Kid

      Kirstie, you pulled it in! What are your crimes?

  • thetastic

    Good for you, Tony. Scientology can keep as quiet as they want, but they can’t stop the world from remembering Kathy.

  • Observer
    • LongtimeLurker

      He wub you!

      He? She?

      • Observer

        She

    • Aww 🙂

    • And what a fine set of lungs! Adorable hound!

    • Rasha

      PUPPEH!!!! <3 <3 <3

    • daisy

      I love it when they snuggle. WhAT a cutie.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      You got a new pup? I missed that. Congrats! Is Observerhund OK?

      • Observer

        Yes, after a couple of days they were wrestling and play fighting all over the house.
        Cheap entertainment, haha.

    • salin

      Just want to cuddle that baby.

      Enjoy the bonding – let the joy supersede the frustrating puppy/new dog adjustment period (torn up this/chewed up that). What a precious moment captured in this photo.

      • Observer

        She’s almost two, so she’s past most of the chewing stage

    • Best photo you took so far..

  • This is what I hate about Scientology most of all. My heart goes out to Paul during this time. I f’ing hate cults

  • Off topic. This young next door couple just ambushed me with a home made stew of sorts. It smells really good.
    I retaliated with some Russian Jolly Ranchers type candies. They are sour and sweet. Random.

    • LongtimeLurker

      That sounds like a great neighbour relationship! Well done.

    • Rasha

      Now this is a conflict worth escalating…..

    • daisy

      People are so great. i am grateful everyday for great neighbors

      • Rasha

        This is so true. I have the. best. neighborhood. evar. Seriously. It’s like an old world kind of friendly neighborhood. LUV IT.

      • So true.

      • JaxNGold

        Oh, me too. Our neighborhood is very quiet and quaint, and my neighbors are so awesome. There’s only four homes on our street (cul-de-sac) so we’re all very close. It’s a blessing. 🙂

    • Rasha

      …actually, those candies sound really good…..

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Daisy’s grateful, Rasha wants some candy, and I’m worried about what they put in the stew and if there’s a listening device in the dish. I need to go to bed.

      • Haha! They are really cool and kind kids who volunteer for a non-denominational church, and work regular jobs to pay the bills. No worries.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Ah great, I can sleep now. Just make sure they keep going to church. No undercover clam would likely keep that up for long. Bon appétit.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    See ya later. I’m going to Miami – LRH needs me!

    https://youtu.be/0nu_6LIqNHg

    • Rasha

      …..sit right down and you’ll hear a tale……

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Why do I have this terrible sneaking suspicion that Mighty Miami is trying to lure Hispanic foreign nationals in to work for next to nothing by promising to see that they get a green card or perhaps even U.S. citizenship?

    • noseinabk

      Yes please come to FL or CA orgs so you won’t notice how much we are dwindling in every other mission and morgue we open.

      • Rasha

        Smaller rooms and wider-angle lenses! EXPANSION!!!

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Lie down immediately. The urge will pass.

    • Anony-Lurker

      Ya know what really just struck me??
      Imagine going through life and the only books and papers you can are those written by Hubbard. Now that is a nightmare!

  • LongtimeLurker

    OT
    Rondammit…John Alex Wood is a shifty, toxic piece of work.

    • Rasha

      …got a letter wrong, there. I’ll just…. oh, never mind…..

      • LongtimeLurker

        Lol!

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      He sounds familiar.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Oh, sorry.

        He’s that really rabid English Scientologist who got into a fight with Monty Python over the Monty Python dating site, which he runs.

        He’s really anti-psych, even for a Scientologist. And his girlfriend is awful, too.

        I was just looking at his Twitter for something funny to post, like I did with Kirstie earlier.

        But there was nothing funny there. Just nastiness and propaganda.

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Aaaah, yes. Monty Python. That’s what it is.

  • Rasha

    Click that heart. Just sayin’. ^_^

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      Gotta get that “BOOM BOOM POW!”

      • Rasha

        Sorry!!!! Gotta do this!!!! XD

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQTW7Pd1vqc

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Whatta?!!!??!! lol!!!

          • Rasha

            BLR is such fun, and I heard their remake before the Boom Boom Pow original. I just remembered it…. Being silly and tired…..

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              hilarious…night 🙂

  • Rasha

    Okay Bunks. Rasha’s hittin’ such pillow. Be mostly good. Night night. <3

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      I got 200 flashcards left! dont go! lol..jk…night Rasha. totally o/t but back like over a year ago, I thought you were also the Sasha poster XD

      Very sweet. much dreams.

      • Rasha

        ^_^ I’ll be back!!! zzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

        (and haha! Always been just lil’ old me.)

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I see that another clam TV writer, Stacey Rukeyser (Louis Rukeyser’s daughter) got a promotion: http://deadline.com/2016/10/unreal-stacy-rukeysershowrunner-season-3-lifetime-series-1201835125/

    I hope her life’s script turns out better than Kathy Slevin’s did, without a disconnection storyline.

  • The Clams are so!….. MAD!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    If the election has you down with a severe case of enturbulation, perhaps this will help 🙂

    https://youtu.be/PneUk30Cqq0

    • Anony-Lurker

      That’s really good!
      I’m always amazed at how much talent there is in cyberspace.
      Thanks for posting it Walrus!!!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Thanks, it cheered me up when I was sure that nothing about this election could. Here’s another one of the last debate with Weird Al 🙂

        https://youtu.be/FdBF6h7oH5I

    • OOkpik

      Walrus, thanks for regularly digging up all kinds of interesting stuff for our reading and viewing pleasure. <3

      • LongtimeLurker

        Thirded!

        Always keep Walrussing, Walrus.

  • OOkpik
  • EnthralledObserver

    Oooh… regrets… they can be a killer. *wince*

    • OOkpik

      Dare I ask?
      OK… *deep breath*
      To what or whom are you referring, EO?

      • EnthralledObserver

        The story topic.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I knew that.

          And yes. I wasn’t in contact when either of my parents died.

          We weren’t close, but I still regret it.

    • Juicer77

      Hope all is ok. Regrets are only useful to learn something from the experience.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Yes, all is okay.
        Just commenting on the current story.

        • Juicer77

          Gotcha.

  • chukicita

    In CW, a basket of clams hit the street in recent days to urge people to vote against Amendment 2 here in Florida, which would legalize medical marijuana. Their main argument was based on generating fear, claiming there would be “2000 Pot Shops” with marketing targeting children and products that looked like cupcakes.

    Not only is that ridiculous (the proposed amendment is not that permissive), but I wonder if they realize that this puts Scientology, Inc. and Big Pharm *on the same side*! Because there is nothing Big Pharm would like more than to have patients taking hydrocodone and/or oxycodone for pain.

  • Juicer77

    I just found out a relative has a significant recurrence of long-term cancer and is having extremely serious surgery today. Thank God there is a network of family and friends rallying around for support. I cannot imagine being cut off from loved ones and good medical care at such a time. If you pray, please ask for the surgeons to have a steady hand and for a good prognosis. Hug your loved ones. You all are very special and thanks for being there in times of trouble.

    • OOkpik

      “Prayers” sent. More coming.
      (((Hugs)))

      • Juicer77

        Thanks, OOk.

      • Juicer77

        Good news, surgery went very well. More treatments to come but excellent outcome today. :)))

        • OOkpik

          Yay!
          Thanks for the update.
          I’ll keep sending good thoughts your way. 🙂

    • daisy

      Oh Juicer i am so sorry , Hugs and prayers sent

      • Juicer77

        Thanks, Daisy.

      • Juicer77

        Good news, surgery went very well. More treatments to come but excellent outcome today. :))

        • daisy

          Oh I am so glad for you, and your loved one. Take care of yourself and them.

        • daisy

          I am still sending prayers for your loved ones recovery, hope all is still well.

          • Juicer77

            Thanks, Daisy. So far, so good. Give your mom and Fat Beagle a hug from me. 🙂

    • LongtimeLurker

      Sorry little gumball friend.

      Big hugs and best thoughts to you.

      • Juicer77

        Thanks, lLL. I mean, Crow. Your avi made me smile. I needed that.

        • LongtimeLurker

          : )

          Take care. xoxoxo

      • Juicer77

        Good news, surgery went very well. More treatments to come but excellent outcome today. 🙂

        • LongtimeLurker

          Yay! Hugs.

  • LongtimeLurker

    Ladies, gentlemen.

    Your new post.

  • Shivani33

    I don’t comment often but read here alot. Just want to say that my mom used to play an old song by Connie Francis sometimes, called “You Always Hurt the One You Love.” I only hope that love proves stronger than the pain. It can be a hard road to hoe.

  • Eclipse-girl

    My condolences to the extended Haggis family.

    My situation is different. I have empathy. I feel for the extended Haggis family and their loss.

  • Missionary Kid

    OT. Somebody mentioned Jack Chick, publisher of the infamous Chick tracts earlier, so I Googled him and found out that he died October 23, 2016, in Alhambra, CA. at the age of 92. He produced his first tract on his kitchen table in 1960, but Chick Productions wasn’t established until 1970.

    A quote about him from the Wikipedia article.
    Many of Chick’s views were controversial, as he accused Roman Catholics, Freemasons, Muslims, Jews, and many other groups of murder and conspiracies. His comics have been described by Robert Ito, in the Los Angeles magazine, as “equal parts hate literature and fire-and-brimstone sermonizing.”

    My comment: only the good die young.