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New Scientology financial disclosures reflect the dire state of its chief drug rehab


[David Miscavige visiting Narconon Arrowhead in the mid-2000s]

Contributor Jeffrey Augustine keeps a close eye on Scientology’s financial documents. And he has some new information today that backs up what we’ve been told anecdotally by our other sources — that Scientology’s flagship drug rehab center in Oklahoma, Narconon Arrowhead, is in serious trouble. Take it away, Jeffrey…

Here in the US, religious groups do not have to file tax returns. The only exception is if they have “unrelated business income.” If they do, thanks to a 2006 law change, religious groups must file an IRS form “990-T.” And even then, we don’t have much interest in the “unrelated” income that they report. The Church of Scientology, for example, owns a nine hole golf course at Gold Base that it rents out to local civic groups. The Flag Land Base in Clearwater and Celebrity Centre International in Hollywood each have ballrooms that they rent out. These tend to be trivial amounts and don’t tell us much about the real money they’re taking in for courses and donations.

However, the real value of the 990-T form is that it contains one really interesting question: It requires that the filer estimate the total “book value” of the organization. In other words, Scientology entities that submit these forms have to admit how much they’re worth.

And that’s forced several Scientology entities to admit to being worth a total of about $1.7 billion in assets. (And that’s only for the entities that report unrelated business income. Some of Scientology’s entities don’t submit 990-T forms, so we can only guess at their book value. But it would certainly mean that Scientology as a whole is worth billions more.)

Meanwhile, Scientology’s entities that can’t claim to be religious in nature — like the secular front groups, including the drug rehab companies under the Narconon umbrella — do submit annual tax returns (990 forms) if they have gross receipts of more than $200,000 or assets of $500,000 or more. There is typically a two year lag in getting 990s and 990-Ts. The forms Scientology submitted for the tax year 2014 are just now beginning to become available.

David Miscavige has always held out Narconon Arrowhead as the “flagship” of the drug rehab network. Located in Canadian, Oklahoma the facility has been rocked by a series of scandals and lawsuits – as have Narconon Georgia, Narconon in Canada, and several other Narconon centers.

The Underground Bunker has broken these stories to its international audience, and readers here have followed what seems to be the implosion of Narconon. Now, we can report that Narconon Arrowhead lost money in 2014 and has experienced a serious “stat crash.”

Narconon Arrowhead’s most recent 990 tax return, for 2014 (see below), paints a grim story.

Gross receipts that year were $4,117,845, a combination of gifts ($2,034,017) and sales of services ($2,044,407).

How did Narconon Arrowhead come up with $2 million in gifts? The answer is on another 990 tax form, the one submitted by Narconon’s Scientology umbrella organization, the Association for Better Living & Education (ABLE). In 2014, ABLE gave Arrowhead a “grant” of $1,879,286 for “general support.” Arrowhead’s remaining gift amount presumably came from other Scientology organizations. We can say that with some confidence based on precedent. In 2008, Scientology’s Social Betterment Properties International (SBPI) donated $180,000 to Narconon Arrowhead. Apparently, and for public relations reasons, David Miscavige cannot allow Narconon Arrowhead to become insolvent — it is, after all, the flagship of Narconon.

Arrowhead’s losses (revenues less expenses) for the year were $310,714. But that’s misleading. The real number, once you take away what was “gifted” to Arrowhead by ABLE to keep it afloat, is a real annual loss of at least $2,190,000. In other words, Scientology’s other groups had to prop up Narconon Arrowhead with $2 million in gifts so it would only show an annual loss of $310,714 in 2014. Of course, it is possible to work the numbers in different ways, but I am using very basic accounting. I welcome comments and analysis from the real numbers people here at the Bunker.

Even with Arrowhead’s lousy 2014 numbers, its losses in 2013 were even worse — a total of $3,713,907 in losses after subtracting operating costs from revenue. That might explain why Scientology found a couple of million to “gift” Arrowhead in 2014, which it didn’t do in 2013.

Meanwhile, ABLE wasn’t only propping up Arrowhead. It “gifted” plenty more to other Narconon entities that are struggling: Narconon International ($541,053), Narconon Fresh Start ($866,739), Narconon Pacific Coast ($15,561), Narconon Freedom Center ($34,047), International Academy of Detox Specialists ($30,762), and Narconon Georgia ($33,620).

For decades, Narconon was a reliable moneymaker for ABLE and the Church of Scientology. Now, after Narconon became a nightmare of lawsuits and scandals, Scientology is having to fork out serious money to keep it from collapsing.

Arrowhead’s decline is particularly stark. After its income rose to a peak of $12 million in 2012, it fell off a cliff after, that year, three patients died in a nine-month period:

2010: $8,793,476
2011: $11,091,425
2012: $12,333,912
2013: $4,332,483
2014: $2,044,407

As Tony reported recently, he’s heard from his sources that Arrowhead, which was designed to house more than 200 patients, is reportedly now down to ten staff and only three patients. If Miscavige is going to continue to prop up his flagship drug rehab, he’s going to have to keep giving it “gifts” in the millions.

— Jeffrey Augustine

990 tax return: Narconon Arrowhead 2014


Chris Shelton and ‘Scientology,’ Chapter 3

Chris continues to look at an academic treatise on the church.



A lefty magazine weighs in

Jacobin magazine yesterday published a refreshing summary of Scientology — its history, its controversies, and where it may be headed — and we found it to be really thorough and well researched.

If you read the Underground Bunker, or if you’ve seen Alex Gibney’s film Going Clear, you’ll recognize nearly everything in the concise roundup that writer Jon Anderson has given the subject, packing in an amazing amount of Scientology’s past in a very readable single chunk.

And we’re surprised by it mostly because of where it appeared. Jacobin is a quarterly that claims to be a “leading voice of the American left.” In the past, we’ve found that the political left — the real American left, not the tepid centrists represented by the Democratic party — have little patience for stories about Scientology.

Maybe it was Alexander Cockburn running interference for Scientology all those years at The Nation that convinced us that the political left was as uninterested in doing something about Scientology as the political right, which always seems queasy about complaints over something that calls itself a “church.”

Well, maybe a corner has been turned. If Jacobin can see that disconnection is toxic, and that Scientology’s lawless history deserves a serious look from today’s law enforcement, maybe other bastions of the left and the right will also start to give it a look as well.

(PS: Is “Jon Anderson” a pen name? Jacobin claims that Anderson is a freelancer who writes on the history of religions, but we don’t find that to be the case. If it is a pseudonym, we’d love to credit the person who actually wrote this excellent piece.)


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  • Jon S


  • Missionary Kid

    Probably, Jon Anderson is a pen name, meant to avoid the Fair Game policy of $cientology. Maybe we shouldn’t be so diligent in outing him. We don’t want to do OSA’s work for them, do we?

    • Fred G. Haseney

      No, Missionary Kid, we wouldn’t want to be responsible for doing the work of the Orifice of Special Affairs, now would we? Not when they’re so good at doing it themselves. (Good morning, OSA! My very best to Janet Weiland, Kendrick Moxon, and a big shout out to Odo G. Huber.)

      • Draco

        I’m sure Odo misses you terribly. You brightened up his otherwise dull days of trawling around Big Blue on his bicycle!

        • Fred G. Haseney

          I had more fun counting the seconds before Odo’s arrival with Everio, his JVC Camcorder. He/they arrived with precision clockwork, too. I couldn’t help but wonder where Odo may have ended up when PAC Base Insecurity Guard Jason True arrived, instead, to escort Steven Mango and I around, Sunday, July 17, 2016.

          • I wonder if they have taken that toy off of him, now. He seemed to enjoy playing with it, as you would expect of a Sea Org member, who owns very little.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              Odo G. Huber sure had the camcorder technique down to “T.” I hope he’s been given a new toy to diddle with.

            • And his bike, of course. Kids play with their bikes in the park where I live, and they are also inordinately proud of them. Plus, gets to dress up dress up like a ‘security guard’.

              I think almost any 12-year-old lad would wear T-shirt that said ‘security’ while he was out on his bike – and a cool belt, with a torch (UK: flashlight?) on it, and everything.

              The poor bloke is suspended in adolescence by his substitute parents, the CofS.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              He may even have been raised as a scientologist. His father, photographer Walter Guenther Huber, is seriously scientological.

            • He must have a strange perspective on life, having spend it an isolated sub-group of an isolated fringe belief system that is, even now, undergoing its final decline.

              What a waste, to have spent your time supporting it so ineffectually.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              In addition, PAC Security Guards believe that what they’re doing is for the “greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.” They’ll defend it to the very end; I would have done almost anything for scientology. Then, one day in 2014, I woke up. Thanks be to God.

              I’d like to open and run a transitional home for wayward Sea Org members, something to help them get off their high horses and ease them back into the real world.

            • I am fascinated by the question of why people suddenly “wake up”. I suspect that the process of disillusion that leads to this apparently sudden change goes back a lot further than even they suspect.

              It might seem to them to be sudden, but I think it’s cumulative and mostly down to the CofS finally intruding on areas of the their life that they hold inviolable.

              AS for wayward SO – I think we need a strategic plan for looking after all of those people who wander away from the CofS when the organisation starts to collapse. The most serious problems would be funding and sabotage by the rump of the CofS, and we still have a while to address them.

      • OOkpik

        Good morning, Fred. <3
        Wow! That's a lot of Sea Ogres to fit into one Orifice.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          It’s a big job (orifice), but somebody’s got to do it!

      • You might be able to email him at

        • Fred G. Haseney

          I might also be able to shoot myself in the leg! Thanks, RMycroft, but I’d rather do anything else but that!

      • Missionary Kid

        I hope you’re doing well. You sound like you’re in fine fettle.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          Ha! I am in both regards (doing well and am in fine “fettle”–a new word in my vocabulary, thanks, Missionary Kid).

          • Missionary Kid

            I’m glad that things are going well. Getting out of L.A. can be something that helps.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              I rairoaded myself away from the jaws of scientology.

            • Missionary Kid

              *Laughing* You sound happier. I think they did you a favor, and it’s enabled you to change the focus of your life.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              I enjoyed protesting scientology. If that hateful group had been kinder, I might still be there, gaining momentum for the “call me” campaign. Yet through their actions (the Temporary Restraining Order; my being followed; that church’s vice-president’s attempts to silence me; they’re paying a housemate, apparently, to play saboteur), the world has more certainty on just how awful that cult really is.

              I’m refocusing, true, but my photojournalist eye will never leave scientology. It’s for the good of our group (mankind) that the spotlight never dim on the cult of scientology, not until it’s a distant memory.

            • Missionary Kid

              I know that you won’t stop working against $cientology, but on a personal level, by being away from the eye of the storm for a while, it will give you the break you need and deserve that will enable you to enjoy more of the wog life. You’ve spent a huge part of your life dealing with $cientology, and I believe that getting away from L.A. is enabling you to gain perspective. I’m sure that there are a whole new set of problems that you have to deal with, but it’s a matter of a change, and I believe that living in the half-way house has prepared you for that change.

              I’ve witnessed you helping out other exes, and that contribution to humanity is something that didn’t come from your $cientology training. It’s to be praised.

              BTW, I saw our mutual friend a week ago, and he is doing very well. I think your help was instrumental in getting him on that path. You have, indeed, paid it forward.

      • aquaclara

        Echoing Missionary Kid here. You still have your sense of humor intact, Fred! Hope you are doing well.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          I do and I’m doing pretty damn good; thank you, aquaclara!

          • aquaclara

            Excellent. Moves can be so tough, and you have been through more than your fair share of stuff lately.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              This move to Hubbardsville proved beneficial as well as spiritually rewarding and relaxing with every step I took eastward. To have been on a Greyhound traveling cross country with camera in hand gave me the opportunity to discover America. Greyhound even had wi-fi (although sometimes restricted because of location) so I could post those photos to Facebook almost in real-time.

            • aquaclara

              I have to laugh at the irony of the town name….LOL.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              I love it here! And guess what? Hubbard’s still dead!

    • Mockingbird

      I don’t out gay people or Scientology whistleblowers. It’s not something I would be comfortable doing.

  • The name Alexander Cockburn, in connection with Scientology, piqued my curiosity, having been a long time reader of the Village Voice.
    A search revealed a site dedicated to his history of “running interference” for Scientology.
    Here it is:
    “Alexander Cockburn, a mouthpiece for Scientology
    Journalist Alexander Cockburn has written several articles critical of prozac, the (original) cult awareness network, or the german government. All these articles supported the agenda of Scientology, and all these articles seem to have been spoonfed to him by Scientology, instead of being the result of investigative reporting. Why is this so? Why doesn’t this guy make an attempt to check his facts? A NEXIS search made me suspect that the core of it is simply that he dislikes Richard Behar, the journalist who wrote the excellent TIME magazine article Scientology: The thriving cult of greed and power. Let’s first see the “hall of shame” of Cockburn journalism: ”

    • Robert Eckert

      It might even go back to when Scientology was pursuing all its lawsuits and harassments against IRS agents and James J. Kilpatrick on the right was cheering on the “scrappy reverends” out of an instinctive aversion to the government side. Cockburn was from that branch of the left which likewise takes it as axiomatic that the US government is on the side of evil in every dispute.

      • He certainly reveled in being the provocateur.

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    So, Narconon is going broke huh? Please excuse me for a second……….Bahahahahaha!!!!

    We warned you Dave. Brick by brick and scam by scam if we have to. It’s a shame you’re too stupid and arrogant to listen.

    • Draco

      You always manage to say what I am thinking. Especially this:
      “So, Narconon is going broke huh? Please excuse me for a second……….Bahahahahaha!!!!”

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Thanks D. *mwah*

        Yeah, I cannot summon any sympathy after all I know about that place. Same thing I felt when I saw it flooded. I asked “Did anyone die?” got my answer “No” and went back to giving no fucks. The sooner it tanks the better. Stacy Murphy……I can never forget her.

    • Fred G. Haseney

      From the karmic point of view, we are all mirrors for David Miscavige to look at. Why? Because, as he works through his karma, the people in his vicinity reflect him. And it’s all up to him: does he want to do the right thing (and appease the Creative Forces of this universe), or do the wrong thing? Every moment is an opportunity for DM to come clean, to do the right thing. What say ye, Miscavige?

      • PickAnotherID

        You know he’ll say, “KSW”. (Karma, so what?)

      • pluvo

        A sociopath can’t “come clean” because in his view he doesn’t do anything wrong. Only others do wrong and have to be put in their place, get disciplined, attack or punished.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          I can dream! Thanks, pluvo.

  • Narconon Arrowhead is also a major training center for Narconon staff from all over. So its condition is probably a good sign of the whole of Narconon.

    • TonyOrtega

      Or was. As we learned in the tragic case of Tabatha Fauteux, training for the new Narconon regimen has been conducted in Los Angeles.

      • Narconon Fresh Start might have made their own training arrangements, since training is usually an excuse to leech as much money as possible from the source organization.

        I don’t suppose Arrowhead has the same authority to order trainees to attend like Flag does.

  • Jon S

    Can anyone make sense of this ridiculous graphic on Narconon UK’s site? Whoever drew it has zero understanding of statistics or research methods.

    • As always COS errr Narconon fails to add a good explanation to the graph. But let me try.

      Between 1972-1975 (so for a total of 4 years) they had 36 “students”, of which 2/3 (so 24) remained off drugs after 1 year. It may also be that 36 stayed off drugs, making the number of students 54. (This goes for all the following 4 year periods.)

      1976-1979 24 students, 18 drug free after 6 months
      1980-1983 20 students, 12 drug free after 7 months
      1984- 1987 11 students, 10 drug free after 10 months
      1988-1991 13 students, probably 10 drug free after 4 years? The system I use doesn’t add up?
      1992-1995 32 students, 23 drug free after 1 – 3 years.
      1996-1999 52 students, 35 drug free after 3 months
      2000-2003 34 students, 26 drug free after 6 months
      2004-2007 295 students, 228 (?) drug free after 1 year
      2008-2011 34 students, 29 (?) drug free after 1-3 years
      2012-2015 323 students, 238 (?) drug free after 6 months

      Or something like this.

      Needless to say these stats are worth nothing. In this way I also will be able to report the crazy success rates they claim to have. Even I will be able to have a 100% drugfree success rate…. after 1 second.

      • Jon S

        I got sober in AA, which has had probably 8 million successful customers since 1976, and which is free.

      • Peter

        And, as always, one cannot rely of scio’s *public* stat reporting.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      You must remember that alcohol and cigarettes are NOT drugs.
      With this codicil, DM has been drug-free for a long time.

  • j238

    Got a Scientology flier at Tony’s subway stop, again, a few days ago. Don’t see them handing out anywhere else.
    Wonder what they think they’re accomplishing.

  • MrsLurksALot

    “Arrowhead’s decline is particularly stark. After its income rose to a peak of $12 million in 2012, it fell off a cliff after, that year, three patients died in a nine-month period.”

    Yeah, death kinda has that effect……..That sounds harsh but the reality is that these patients helped shine a light on the malfeasance and malpractice that is NarcoCon. God bless them and their families.

    Tick tock, Davey. We are all watching the clock.

  • Graham

    Any search for a Jon Anderson has to cope with the fact that there’s a musician of that name. Thus difficult to find any links that aren’t about him. However I have found one: an article by freelancer Jon Anderson in the UK Catholic Herald:

    • Missionary Kid

      I’m encouraging people not to out whoever Jon Anderson is, or, if they discover his/her real name, to just let Tony know. We don’t want to do OSA’s dirty work, do we?

      • Graham

        Agreed. It would be good if Tony could interview him to ask how he got so well clued-up on this complex topic; but no ‘outing’ unless it’s something the guy [or gal?] is comfortable with and freely agrees to.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    “Even with Arrowhead’s lousy 2014 numbers, its losses in 2013 were even worse — a total of $3,713,907 in losses after subtracting operating costs from revenue. That might explain why Scientology found a couple of million to “gift” Arrowhead in 2014, which it didn’t do in 2013.”

    As fast as Miscavige runs he cannot hope to keep up with the revelations here at the Bunker. His patch-jobs are always retrospective patch-jobs; he can never get ahead.

    • Fred G. Haseney

      David “Foot Bullet Extraordinaire” Miscagive to the rescue!

    • When the 2015 Form 990s show up, we can see if their claims that the California operations really are breaking all ties with Narconon are true.

    • Mockingbird

      Scientology is alive but not well. It has ten thousand enemies striking a million blows. It loses a little to many and can’t possibly even keep track of them all. It’s like an elephant getting eaten by a million ants. It can crush some but not all. As we were treated as insignificant before we in total are unstoppable. It may take awhile to eat the elephant but it will fall.

  • There is an incremental update in the legal battle between the Tax Office and Scientology in the Netherlands that I wanted to post. Last time round, the Appellate Court denied Scientology tax exemption after the Supreme Court reversed an earlier decision which was favorable for the Church.

    Scientology has appealed this decision once more to the Supreme Court. Today’s update is not the verdict of the Supreme Court itself, but of its advisory body. The advisory body, called the Advocaat-generaal, has reviewed not only the appeal briefs of both sides both also a number of scholarly reviews and critiques that were published about the previous ruling. Because the two Supreme Court decisions about Scientology’s tax exempt status (known as the first and second Scientology arrest) are important case law, several critiques were published in the last year.

    The advice of the Advocaat-generaal to the Supreme Court, published last week, is to uphold the decision to deny tax exemption to Scientology.

    Because it can be difficult to keep track of Scientology’s numerous attempts to obtain tax exemption for itself and its front groups, I’ve added an infographic showing all milestones so far (I hope it comes out OK, imgur has changed).


    • Hopefully this works…

      • YellowSubmarine

        Yes it does. Very nice infographic

      • aquaclara

        This is a lovely chart. I’d love to see the US make the same kind of progress on the public benefits test, too.
        Thanks for this.

      • I love that you’ve shown it this way. Thx

      • J. Swift

        Great work scamofscientology.

    • Fred G. Haseney

      That’s too baad for scientology. I feel like writing a Success Story!

      • Peter

        I really enjoy the word “arrest” in conjunction with any scio organization. Yeah, I know it means something else in Dutch…but I can dream, can’t I? <g.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          You caan dream, yes, you maay.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          You caan!

    • Nice. Very nice.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      This is such a great infographic – thank you!!!

  • Bavarian Rage

    Harder to recognize the runt when he’s not in his Ideal Org-opening finery. And smiling. (His typical “smile” seems to have a bit of scowl going on in the eyes and forehead area.) Also he appears a bit “thicker” in mid-2000s than today.

    • Juicer77

      That photo is damning evidence that he’s front and center in the NarCONon scam.

  • PickAnotherID

    What kind of readership numbers does the ‘Jacobin’ have? Whatever it is, they just got a great synopsis of $cientology’s history and current state. And maybe a not so subtle hint to push ‘Government’ to get off it’s butt, “The First Amendment protects religious groups from government interference but, as Jeffs discovered, it does not protect their members or leaders from prosecution for illegal activities.”

    • Justmeteehee

      I liked the comparisons made to Warren Jeffs.

      • PickAnotherID


  • EnthralledObserver

    “The real American left”

    Heh… I wonder if that includes all the lefties that have jammed their stake in the soil here at the Bunker and claimed it as their own, wishing they had the power to banish dissidents? Or maybe these ones are just ‘tepid centrists’? It’s hard to tell… they have long recognised $cientology’s ills, so maybe they are the latter.

    Nevertheless… it’s good that $cientology is being noticed finally. Left or Right… I do hope somebody does something about them soon. Maybe when Trump takes the wheel, as he will.

    • Mockingbird

      Most of what people in America call lefties are democrats that are either centrists (to be charitable) or slightly progressive which would be either in the center or slightly left. Actual socialists, Marxists and similar groups have very few members in America. Certainly if votes show membership.

      You might fit all the American left into a couple football stadiums.

      • Jon S

        Paul Buhle wrote a good history of the US left. Really worth a read.

        • Mockingbird

          Thanks. I feel like it’s likely a tragedy. The left has been hurting bad since the fifties.

          • Jon S

            Yes – whatever your political opinions it’s kind of sad how what was once a great grass roots mass movement was crushed by the state and by business interests. Here in the UK we often take for granted the benefits of organised labour in the 20th century, like health care and holidays, for example.

            • Mockingbird

              Yeah, in America we have no major parties representing labor or most people unfortunately. It’s center right corporate neoliberal democrats or whatever republicans have turned into.

    • kemist

      Except Trump is neither left or right.

      Trump has his own side, that of Trump.

    • Mockingbird

      Read the tired old smear of lumping all democrats and others together as lefties is ridiculous.

      Bernie Sanders had very little company in American politics as a person to the left and he isn’t accepted by many socialists as he is far to the right of folks like Chomsky and his supporters.

      Calling Clinton or president Barack Obama lefties is entirely inaccurate in my opinion. They are miles away from socialism, at least as far as actual socialists define their policies.

    • Jon S

      I have a bet on Trump winning as a hedge against what I really hope will happen. I got 3/1 (4.0 in US odds). I genuinely don’t think it’s possible … barring some catastrophe between now and November. However you can’t always trust the polls and I won quote a lot of money on Brexit for the same reason, despite being devastated in every other way by the result.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Your money is safe.

        You should trust your instincts more… 😉

      • Graham

        3/1 is worryingly short odds. Yes, I did consider having a hedge bet on Brexit; sorry I didn’t now.

      • We in Global Capitalism HQ did quite nicely on the Brexit vote. One of the “event-driven” partner funds bought a ton of way-out-of-the-money puts on the UKP vs USD as “just in case” insurance, and it paid off massively (like 20-to-1). That was the trade of a lifetime for some lucky currency trader downstairs. I allowed myself to toss a few beans into the pot, nothing serious, but the result paid for a few trinkets for various supermodels.

        It appears that there’s enough foot-dragging by the new PM and by others that they may yet fail to execute on the referendum result, though I don’t follow this sort of high-level economic news closely enough to have a real opinion on what’s going to happen. But I am already seeing frozen technology spending as a result (especially by companies in the financial services sector, which always spends heavily on tech), which is something I do care about…

    • Frodis73

      I don’t recall anybody calling for your banishment…

    • Mockingbird
      • EnthralledObserver

        They’re just punks having a laugh. No ‘actual’ lynching was performed, nor would it be… if they were serious you think they’d be announcing it on public CB? Fuck no.
        And have you seen BLM’s riot vids – hunting ‘whites’ just because they are ‘white’ – seems like the arseholes probably could do with a flogging or two… or are they joking too as they are videoed actually attacking white people in their cars in those vids?
        So… distasteful joking versus riotous attacks on whites and police… hmmm, who to support? Tough call.

        • chukicita

          Punks having a laugh.

          What’s the motivation? Dominant culture supports my skin color, so it’s okay to laugh and threaten and marginalize other human beings.

          People burning property.

          What’s the motivation? Watching everyone who looks like you systematically hurt, jailed, killed, had opportunities removed and otherwise oppressed for hundreds of years – even when dominant culture supposedly has laws to the contrary.

          Hmmm, who to support? Tough call.

          • EnthralledObserver

            You don’t consider the possibility that the riotous behaviour and threats against white people by BLM could be the motivation behind the punks with the distateful jokes?

            I do.

            BLM earned it.

            • chukicita

              A couple guys react to centuries of systematic oppression with violence and you blame an entire race?

              You earned it.

            • EnthralledObserver

              BLM is NOT a race! It’s a movement… an often criminal one at that. In the video/audio the ‘supposed Trump’ supporters were specifically referencing BLM. BLM can consist of members from ANY RACE.
              BLM’s violence EARNED the scorn and distaste of everyone decent!

              Wake up to yourself.

            • chukicita

              “often criminal” – please cite your reference for that. You’re still taking the actions of a few people and criminalizing an entire race, even if you want to submerge your frothing racism by using the word “movement.” Where I live I am directly involved with BLM and it is stringently peaceful. The reason there is a BLM is because of the violence perpetrated on black folk, and no one wishes to perpetuate the violence.

              Try listening to actual people that you seem to think are two-dimensional cartoon villains bent on world domination. Have an actual conversation with a Muslim or a person of color. You’ll be surprised how much more you have in common than differences.

            • EnthralledObserver

              You seem to be averse to FACTS.
              Fact – black on black crime statistics far out-shadows white on black crime. As does black on white crime… but those don’t matter to your obvious agenda of keeping blacks in a perpetual victim-hood because to confront the actual problems of their communities requires too much stamina and fortitude. BLM is covered, if you can be bothered to listen to an actual black man discuss the issues.

            • chukicita

              Your “facts” have zero sources, reminding me of Hubbard somewhat.

              According to FBI, white people kill more black people than black people kill black people.

              White people also commit more crimes altogether, and FAR outdo people of any other shade when it comes to crimes against vulnerable people (like kids and the elderly).

              I’m sorry if these “facts” contradict with your worldview, and thanks for the sparkling conversation but we’re not going to convince each other of anything, especially when you assign me an ‘agenda’ that seems to have appeared only by you making an Olympic leap to a conclusion about my ethnicity. You know nothing about my community, nor what people in it face on a daily basis.

              Does ‘walk a mile in my shoes’ only apply if the shoes belong to people of European stock?

              Enjoy your racism and the fear it generates.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Why don’t you watch the video? Afraid to be proven wrong?
              All your facts and statistics can be sourced through there.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Here you go… I found you the stats… ’cause I know you won’t look for the truth.

              Here’s all US crime in stats (sources above at the link)

        • Mockingbird

          You are using several fallacies. First violence against religious and ethnic minorities by Trump supporters is occurring. Second he has actual white supremacists and neonazis flocking to him and seeing a surge in recruitment as they ally themselves with Trump.

          Third you are using tu quoque. Instead of a detailed critical analysis of ALL the evidence Trump is a virulent racist and bigot and he has supporters who are also, you minimize it, don’t analyze the evidence that doesn’t support your confirmation bias then describe me as always mischaracterizing. That’s the genetic fallacy or ad hominem.

          Instead of putting forth a claim with supporting evidence to examine you just bypass reason and attack the source of a claim.

          Which is irrational. Anyone can be right or wrong.

    • Mockingbird

      What is your opinion on the Trump youth being promoted by a Hitler apologist ?

      • EnthralledObserver

        He never once said he was a Hitler apologist – he said he went to the source for the whole truth. You people ALWAYS mischaracterise what is said.
        Globalism or Nationalism – that’s his concern. I know I’m not for Globalism.

        • Robert Eckert

          He doesn’t have to “say” he is a Hitler apologist: that’s what he *is*

          • EnthralledObserver

            No… that is what you ‘guess’.

            He ‘is’ what HE says he is.

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t have to guess: he reveals himself blatantly. And no, he is not very honest in his self-assessment.

        • Mockingbird

          I always mischaracterize what is said ? That’s interesting.

          So, you have read all my online posts ? You’re a busy fellow.

          So, when Trump cheers on white supremacist John Wayne what does it mean ?

          When he appoints virulent racist Carl Paladino who recently had an interview with NPR ended for calling president Barack Obama a coon as his surrogate what does that mean ?

          When he is allied with noted racist Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions who was denied an appointment as a judge due to his racist acts in court what does it mean ?

          When Trump was sued for discrimination in renting to minorities and lost what did it mean ?

          When he tried to get black teenagers executed but they were fully exonerated and he refused to apologize what does it mean ?

          When he retweeted the false lie from a white supremacist that blacks kill 81% of white murder victims, when the truth reported by the FBI is closer to 14% what does that mean ?

          When he said the president wasn’t born here what does it mean ?

          When he said laziness is a trait in blacks what does it mean ?

          When he said he is the law and order candidate what does it mean ?

          When he sent a white nationalist to be his delegate what does it mean ?

          When he defends Roger Ailes who has a reported twenty women coming forth with audiotapes of his sexual harassment what does it mean ?

        • Mockingbird

          By you people are you using ad hominem on my race ? Gender ? Sexual indentity ? Political affiliation ? Which group are you attacking ?

        • Graham

          Thanks O_B. I hadn’t been aware of this experiment.

          On the third day “Jones was surprised that some of the students started reporting to him when other members of the movement failed to abide by the rules.” Good grief. Three days was all it took and they were doing it voluntarily.

          • I know I keep banging on about the incredible manipulative power of toxic social situations, and that this kind of thing emerges naturally from in the right conditions.


            a) It’s true
            b) People underestimate just how ubiquitous and powerful this phenomenon is
            C) We all tend to think that it’s only other people who are affected. We typically see ourselves as one of the few who are unaffected

        • Mockingbird

          I wasn’t familiar with the Third Wave experiment. I had seen the film listed somewhere but wasn’t aware if it was fiction or fact. I have the opinion that a lot of fiction on cults is extremely inaccurate.

          I found the TV show The Following to be particularly bad. It created a story of hundreds of serial killers that somehow covertly find each other and gather into a society that is extremely obedient to a leader, despite most members having no faith in the leader or his goals.

          I think the fascism rising in America is extremely dangerous. It’s always going to appeal to a certain percentage of people.

          I remember reading about experments in in and out groups in Social Psychology For Dummies, Cialdini’s Influence and Age of Propaganda.

          There have been groups that discriminate and lessen empathy in experiments based on things as trivial as who is wearing a red or blue bracelet or a flip of a coin.

          At a camp two groups of boys were pitted against each other in sports and rapidly escalated to vandalism and theft against each other.

          To prevent serious violence the experiment was altered. Goals that required cooperation like moving stuck busses were created so the two groups together saved the day. After several cooperative tasks the groups stopped fighting and shared food and became friends.

          Similarly a teacher did an experiment where half the students were told they were better, smarter and had first choice of chairs etc.

          They became arrogant and domineering within a day or two. The lesser students were upset. After a couple days the teacher switched the groups roles. The favored became the second class citizens.

          After a couple days of that it ended. The students reportedly became more sensitive to discrimination faced by minorities after that.

          Another experiment was designed to overcome racial discrimination in schools. Some teachers observed that bussing created a conflict between white students and minorities. The white students stayed with their own race and competed with minorities for grades, places on teams, athletic achievement etc. So the teachers realized they were not improving race relations.

          But a teacher created groups that have some members of each race present. If you have two races in equal numbers you make a group three white members and three black members as an example. The group does a project in which every person has a role. To succeed they must cooperate. One person might prepare a slideshow, another might do research on one topic, another could speak on one aspect of the project while another speaks on another.

          In the experiment cooperation was emphasized. If you all contributed and worked together that was praised and rewarded. If people were scapegoated or left out the presentation was unsuccessful.

          It was considered a successful model. It’s not perfect.

          I know people who have worked with minorities in high school football that cooperate on the field but remain racist. Or that work with minorities at their job but similarly never give up their racist and fascist tendencies.

          • The fictionalised film version of the experiment was not good. However, it was a real, informal experiment. There was a also a teacher who made a point about the civil rights movement by arbitrarily declaring blue eyed kids to be superior to brown-eyed kids, and treating them differently for a time.

            Neither experiment would pass today’s ethical committees – but many of those who participated remember their experience as a profound influence on their subsequent lives.

            The “Robbers Cave” experiment (the tow groups in a boy’s camp) is a classic examination of how people spontaneously form ‘in-groups’ without even being aware we are doing it. It’s behaviour that seems to be ‘wired in’.

            Investigations of the ‘minimal group paradigm’ show that people will band together over the most trivial things. People selected or membership of a one of two groups on the basis of a coin toss will still bond to their ‘comrades’ and feel that their group is superior to the other one.

            This is what makes me wonder about the value of protests against Scientology at this stage of the game – evidence of out-group hostility might actually increase solidarity among the Scientologists who here the object of the protest.

            For some people, what we think of as prejudice becomes part of their identity. They are so intolerant about Muslims (for example) because they think that the mere existence of Jihadism justifies their unexamined racism. They object to anyone who questions this because such questions undermine the basis of their self-esteem – theirsupposed ‘racial’ superiority.

            I tried watching “The Following” online…. but just couldn’t get into the first episode. I wonder now if it wasn’t the way that everyone was so good looking and charismatic – not at all like the hungry, sleep-deprived raggedy real people who populate that kind of organisation. The couldn’t realistically portray the situation because nobody would watch, so you get this glamorised, sanitised version.

            Social psychology is worth examining in the context of Scientology because it yield a great many insights into the group behaviour of Scienotologists.

            • Mockingbird

              I agree and am glad you are familiar with those experiments.

              I don’t always remember the names of every experiment.

              I also saw an excellent video by David Eaglman in which he described evidence from neuroscience to support the granfalloon idea.

              Our brains appear designed to select in and out groups. And to use mirror neurons to experience the imagined physical and emotional experiences of people in our in groups and to NOT use mirror neurons for members of out groups.

              In other words the hypothesis is we turn empathy and compassion on and off like a switch.

              It’s natural and usual.

              Now David Eaglman discussed certain potential steps to overcome this by having members of groups cross over.

              He pointed out Native Americans who were members of several groups. One could be Iroquois and a Crow or Bear too. So you would be reluctant to go to war with a neighboring tribe because you had cousins and friends in that tribe.

              His book The Brain is interesting.

              I think people are taught a false dichotomy of good people like us and bad people that are different.

              Most people have good and bad in them. A small percentage are thought to be like Hubbard and have very little or no conscience.

              But possibly ninety five or so percent of people have a conscience.

              The key is the conscience can be turned off for out groups. And authority can command people to commit evil.

              Governments have found getting men to kill each other to be difficult.

              In WWI a tremendous amount of ammunition was wasted as men preferred to miss the enemy if their life wasn’t threatened.

              People have written books like On Killing about how governments have to develop very specific steps to get men to kill each other.

              I recall some of the steps. They felt a recognized chain of command with clear authority was needed.

              They felt dehumanization of the enemy was essential.

              They felt a clear and unambiguous command to immediately kill had to be delivered by a leader as close as possible to the men. Preferably in person.

            • Mockingbird

              Have you ever read the True Believer ?

              I feel it’s quite relevant to Scientology.

              “Hatred is the most accessible and comprehensive of all the unifying agents. Mass movements can rise and spread without belief in a god, but never without a belief in a devil.”
              ― Eric Hoffer, The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

            • I have. I think he was more concerned with fascism and similar madnesses that spread through whole societies, and the ‘cult’ phenomenon is more of a sub-culture ,but many things that he says are transferrable. He was a very interesting man, too.

            • Mockingbird

              I have found hundreds of his comments translate. He saw mass movements as fueled by blind faith and fanaticism which Scientology certainly has in abundance.

            • Mockingbird

              I am surprised I remembered those experiments so well. I read about some of them two years ago.

              By the way did you get a degree in psychology ? Most people who have your degree of knowledge have gotten a degree from college. There are rare exceptions like Jon Atack but he has been studying the mind, influence and human behavior for thirty years or so.

              Lots of experts went to college and got master’s degrees or even a doctorate.

              I think the subject of psychology is most appropriate for examining Scientology. Others are needed but on a guess I would place psychology at the top with certain information on linguistics, hypnosis, and aspects of neuroscience and narcissism, sociopathy, rhetoric, propaganda analysis and possibly psychoanalysis and psychiatry being useful as well.

              Lots of other subjects like critical thinking, logical fallacies, totalitarian regimes and mass movements can be beneficial as well. Really a lot could help but cutting it down to the bare minimum is the challenge.

              There’s so much that can help, but judging what curriculum to start with and how to progress is a task I am not prepared for.

              A professor probably should be consulted.

            • I think – shall we call them ‘fringe beliefs – are an interdisciplinary study in itself.

              While I do have a UK degree in Sociology/IT (yes – a weird mixture) However, I think that the areas which offer good fundamental explanations of the actual experience of individual scientologists are social psychology and psychology – that the power of Scientology is drawn from a mixture of social pressure and personal vulnerability.

              I do think that education is (should) be about more than the subject. If you learn anything to a certain level you should emerge equipped with the skills to learn more., all by yourself. It’s no coincidence that higher degrees involve making an original contribution to knowledge (with support from tutors).

              If you ever choose to study formally , start with what fascinates you (which sounds like it would be psychology) and go on from there. As for critical thinking – wait until you get an essay marked – that’s a crash course.

  • One thing that I didn’t understand about Narconon Arrowhead’s Form 990 is that they seemed to be claiming depreciation on the property. Except that the property is owned by Social Betterment Properties International. (Or it was. SBPI went “religious” and stopped filing their own Form 990s several years ago.)

    • Kestrel

      Maybe they are depreciating equipment. They seem to have a lot of that.

      • Schedule D, part VI.

        Leasehold improvements.
        They depreciate the equipment on the next line.

        • Kestrel

          You’re right. I should have used my reading glasses.

          • I thought they were depreciating on the property itself. I’ll check some earlier ones later.

    • Typically in commercial real estate, the value of a building is separated into two parts. The building shell itself is what you depreciate under 30 years on the “Building” line. The landlord/building owner would be entitled to take the depreciation on the building shell.

      Leasehold improvements are those non-structural elements that adapt the space to a tenant’s particular requirements. Those belong to the tenant and the tenant (in this case, NN OK) would take the depreciation on those items. Leasehold improvements are typically fixed in location (i.e., part of the building: walls, cabinets, lighting, etc) while equipment is typically mobile (hospital beds, CAT scanners, computers, etc.)

      Leasehold improvements also have a shorter life span for depreciation purposes, typically 10 years, partly because real commercial leases typically last 10 years, and even if the tenant stays longer, they’ll want to renovate the interior to make it more current/fashionable, as a store in a shopping mall would typically want to do.

      Thus, the fact that NN OK takes depreciation on the leasehold improvements is entirely appropriate. It would be a major and obvious breach of the rules for them to take depreciation on the building if they didn’t own it.

      That said, there is one odd thing: the owner of the building shell would normally be the owner of the land. But NN OK is claiming a value of $7,000 for land (you never get depreciation on raw land, by the way). Why does NN OK own any part of the land? And why so little? It’s certain that the parcel that the facility sits on is worth more than that — multiple acres on a lake, even as remote as it is. It’s not material to the results of the organization so it probably won’t be subject of any questions from the IRS unless there’s a criminal/forensic audit in progress, but it’s a very odd entry.

  • Mockingbird

    Haha. I am curious how an acknowledgement of the tepid centrists in the democratic party was allowed. In most American press the left is either a generic term for democrats or part of a ridiculous false equivalence used as a smear. I think it’s absurd to see corporate neoliberal politicians like corporate TPP champion President Barack Obama get called a socialist, leftist, communist and Marxist.

    He’s none of those things. Every democratic president from Bill Clinton to Barack Obama has been a neoliberal corporatist. These guys are further to the right than Ronald Reagan on many issues, and Reagan was certainly right of center.

    It’s extremely rare to see anyone that isn’t openly progressive bother to both distinguished between the left and democrats in general and then have the nerve to say it.

    There are folks who actually are on the left like Chris Hedges, Richard Wolff and Noam Chomsky who wanted Bernie Sanders to move about ten miles to the left. While much of the democratic establishment thought he was about twenty miles too far left to be taken seriously, at least at the beginning of the democratic primaries and caucuses.

    I enjoy Jacobin personally but know it’s not for everyone. Some see Mother Jones as far left while others dismiss it as neoliberal corporate propaganda.

    If you use the term neoliberal as a condemnation you probably are the target audience for Jacobin.

    But most Bunkeroos are probably the audience for the article on Scientology. It was better written in my opinion than most articles by people that haven’t devoted a lot of time to digging deep into Scientology.

    • Funny you should mention “tepid centrists in the democratic party”.
      I have been trying to formulate my thoughts regarding its inclusion in the post.

      • Mockingbird

        Obviously opinions vary. But the false equivalence of democrats, socialists and communists in America is absurd. There are about two hundred different things all lumped in together now.

        American democrats certainly don’t fit most countries description of socialism.

        • kemist

          American democrats are somewhere on the right of Canada’s Conservative Party.

          That is, without the obsession with the Queen, which I don’t know is integral to the Conservative Party or only Harper’s.

          • Mockingbird

            In Canada obviously some things like national healthcare are already in place. It’s not perfect but has a different political climate.

        • ” false equivalence ”
          I could write a book.
          That, in relation to “democrats, socialists and communists ” (and “liberals”), is, I believe due to Republican marketing efforts over the last few decades.

          • Mockingbird

            Definitely. From McCarthy on the entire left has been successfully lumped together. Certainly the rise of Fox news and talk radio has helped.

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Listen for Phil Ochs’ brilliant words on Liberalism from 1965.

      Nonetheless, I am basically a liberal. I tend to accept the ten degrees to the left of centre view of the world and I try to be non-judgemental unless, of course, things get ridiculous.

      Our problem is helping liberals, people like me, understand that while we have freedom of religious belief we do not necessarily have the freedom to act on those beliefs. We cannot kill a naked virgin at the altar no matter how much we believe that the act is necessary as part of our beliefs.

  • Jon S

    Section B Question 13: “Did the organisation have a written whistleblower policy?” Answer: Yes
    We all know about that, it’s called “Fair Game”.

  • Jeb Burton

    The St. Pete Times is considered a liberal newspaper. Or as my Republican friends call it, that communist rag.

    • Betty

      You need new friends.

      • Kim O’Brien


  • BosonStark

    One of my favorite sentences — about the Basics — from Anderson’s article: He then held a gala launch to unveil the grossly overpriced books — now with fewer semicolons — which were finally “the way Ron wanted them,” as opposed to the way Ron wrote them.
    It’s like there was God/Ron, and his faithful priest Dave, who interprets the will of God/Ron. Members are too busy buying books for themselves and libraries to notice that Dave is not interested in Ron’s baloney himself.

    What did Dave get out of the superpower rundown? Did he even do it? All this enhancement in communication ability wrought by the tech hasn’t gifted Dave with the power to write his own speeches, let alone control his oiliness level, or supersmell dog shit from a mile away.

    • Graham

      Perhaps Dave’s dogs don’t shit? Perhaps this is why Sea Org members are so delighted to salute them? 🙂

    • If he still has his asthma problem, I can’t see him running around a pole all day.

    • Frodis73

      Yeah, you would think we would see a success story or two from DM…it would be good pr for the other clams to hear about DM’s “wins”. lol

  • Mockingbird

    I think the fact that an increasing number of Scientology activities run at a financial loss is good news. It’s been reported for probably two to three years that Flag may be the only org consistently making a profit on its actual delivery of fraudulent pseudoscience thought reform and indoctrination.

    With straight donations Scientology cult groups may bring in big money, but the old method of swindling victims with fake counseling or covert undue influence training just doesn’t bring in much cash or deliver much of a product anymore. Some major services like the BC have dried up.

    To me that is great as a cult needs thought reform to influence people. Without new use of it it’s very unlikely Scientology can effectively recruit and retain a new generation of fanatics and zealots to sustain the cult.

    They need several thousand hard core members to maintain even a skeleton crew of staff and Sea Org members. The aging members won’t be able to do this forever. Like the Fox news viewers Scientologists may simply grow old and die out.

    If formerly profitable scams like Narconon are now bleeding money that is also great news. And if Arrowhead is barely open that spares victims the harm Scientology would cause them.

    • Juicer77

      Shut them all down.

  • What’sup

    Scientologies lucrative gold bearing veins are starting to collapse.

    • Nothing is worse than a gold junkie trying to find new veins to tap.

  • Science Doc

    Scientology has made the funny pages. F5

    • Missionary Kid

      I’d love to see what $cientology would do with that body.

      • Bleuler

        Count it as a stat for “bodies in shop” obviously.

        • Flying High

          LOL – And yes now that they know we are on to them and can instantly spot their Photoshop attendances in photos, now they ask for donated corpses to fill the existing void. I hear they serve as great OT-TR0 twins.

          • Leigh Andrews

            But only for a little while.

      • Obviously, apply the “Bring back to life assist”. You shout, “get back in that body”.
        If it doesn’t work, that’s your fault, for having insufficient ‘intention’.

        Even if it only half-works, and they create a zombie, they can put him in the RPF. Among of the sleep-deprived victims there, nobody would notice.

        • But the smell?

          • MarcabExpat

            You’re right of course, RPF staff quarters are rumored to stink quite badly. Well, there’s bound to be something more humane they can do with him.

          • Flying High

            It blends right in with the pay structure of their staff slaves and their idle morgue building not having toilet paper.

          • Thetans presumably sort that kind of thing out. I’m mean it’s not as if would Ron would have failed to think the thing through, is it?

            • It does make sense to their motto “We always come back”

            • It does make sense to their motto “We always come back.”

              My favorite Scientology motto, because it works equally well as the motto for cockroaches.

            • And genital herpes viruses.

          • Asillem4

            Already covered; nobody would notice.

        • chukicita

          “Let him die.”

      • What body?

        (They’d use Flag standardly tech and leave it at a bus stop.)

      • MarcabExpat

        Well, by the looks of that foyer, he did wheel this corpse into an Ideal Morgue…

      • picketflag247

        Return the body as being out exchange minus the gold fillings.

    • Now THAT’S a body in the shop!

      • sizzle8

        Lol! Raw meat.

      • Asillem4

        Quick, sign him up for some classes *check his pockets for a credit card*
        Maybe he has gold teeth… a wedding band?

    • OOkpik

      Body routers will stop at nothing.

    • edge

      “Are you sure he’s dead? If you scream at him in Tone 40 his thetan may return to his body”

    • EnthralledObserver

      Imagine if that cartoon was about Islam, rather that $cientology.

      Just imagine the uproar.

      Don’t get me wrong… I think it’s funny… but I’d also consider the Islam one funny too.

    • richelieu jr

      Looks like he found his ruin all right– On the fender of an ’87 Buick!

  • Mockingbird

    If Miscavige wants to avoid legal hurdles he may make more tiny ideal Narconons and quietly close the larger facilities. The macabre parade of victims lost to Narconon may finally fade. It would be great if Miscavige just closed them all and used the Hubbard policy on not engaging in healing that the government forbids as justification. In other words he could blame psychs or medicos.

    • Juicer77

      It will be interesting to see if his little Ideal Whale Narconons succeed. IF he can keep the whales happy and avoid any lawsuits. But mess up one mega-whale’s kid and Mismanage is in for a long and expensive legal battle. He would be up against an unusual foe: someone with big cash reserves for legal fees and the connections to hire the most $ci-savvy attorneys.

      • Graham

        I’m guessing the Mini-Narcs are mainly intended to be Potemkin Villages. Something to look good in internal publicity- where none of the photos of facilities ever have people in them anyway.

        • Juicer77

          I hear you, but I really think Mismanage might have more nefarious schemes in mind. For example, treat a really wealthy whale’s kid or relative for substance abuse, all the while gaining control over them and hearing lots of tasty family tidbits for use later when money is needed.

      • Mockingbird

        It’s sad that Narconons and Scientology get to harm anyone. I hope it is stopped somehow.

    • jazzlover

      Soon, public scientologists will be expected to run Narconons out of their homes.

      • Mockingbird

        Like a mission network ! The public will have to set up a sauna and face all legal liabilities for the deaths they cause. Miscavige can start a golden age of Narconon and get lots of Scientologists to cough up fifty grand for a starter package.

        Miscavige keeps that and a percentage of all income while the Narconon mission holder faces all legal, civil and criminal liability. Miscavige could simply SP declare anyone that gets in trouble and claim they violated Scientology policy . There’s so much policy that’s self contradictory it’s easy to find something a person went against.

        • jazzlover

          You forgot the Happy Meal on the way out, too 🙂

          • Mockingbird

            The unhappy meal from Scientology.

  • Mockingbird

    Instead of wasting his fortune Miscavige could give a gift of two million dollars to each Bunkeroo !

    • Panopea Abrupta

      He doesn’t have enough money – that assumes only 2-3000 readers.

      • Mockingbird

        He could start with the frequent commenters and contributors.

        • Missionary Kid

          I’ve got over 37 K comments, but I’m still waiting for my big pharma check, so I also don’t expect anything from Mousecavige.

      • Juicer77


  • Naturally, I dug through the 2014 990-T to see what numbers looked interesting. Got a late start and I have a lot to do today so this is not a full-on Global Capitalism HQ Numbers Deep Dive(tm), just a quick scan.

    1. It still mentions the disappeared-across-the-border Clark Carr as one of the trustees for Narconon. Nothing like staying loyal to sheer incompetence… You’d think they’d get him off the masthead to reduce the odds that he’ll be sought for depositions.

    2. Program revenue of $1.950 million still represents about 50-60 “students” scammed through the course of 2014. Yes, it’s well below prior levels but it’s still surprisingly large given that Narconon’s reputation is roughly as safe as Ebola-coated kiddie porn.

    3. The $2 million gift is indeed striking. I’m surprised they didn’t structure it as some sort of a loan, perhaps as a second mortgage on the building or something like that, so that they could keep the pressure on Narconon staff to feel like they’d have to repay it over time.

    4. Payroll (p. 10) of $1.45 million to non-executive officers is surprisingly high. That money is going to the “staff” made up of former students who have no training at all. Given the slave wages they pay, I’m assuming that this could mean upwards of 50-60 full time employees over the course of the year. Note that I’m not disputing the claim that the current staff is about 10 people, since this is a 2014 return; the death spiral in employees believed to be in effect today has not yet happened.

    If you believe the average annual compensation for a “staff” member is less than the $25,000 number I’m estimating, then there could be substantially more employees than that. It’s still a hallmark of Scientology operations to have many extra people all running around yelling at each other and looking busy, rather than rationalizing staff size to the amount of business you have.

    Organizational complexity is killing Scientology as much as anything else; reducing staff size to the amount of business you have and cutting out make-work bureaucracy would help the organization be both more efficient and effective, but the tons of make-work jobs reinforce my belief that Scientology is about control first, and the money extracted from members is merely proof of the degree of control Miscavige exerts over people, rather than the primary goal of the organization.

    5. Legal expenses of $455,000, almost 25% of revenue, are about what we’d expect when they’re fighting all that litigation. Note this amount probably doesn’t include settlement expenses.

    6. A true measure of the toxicity of the Narconon brand is the insurance amount on p. 10. They’re paying $388,000 for insurance, over 20% of program revenue. This is obviously in the wake of the lawsuits they’ve been embroiled in, though I’m surprised they could get covered at all in view of the way they were destroyed in court in Georgia for spoliation of evidence, where the court sanctioned them by preventing them from putting on a defense. I don’t know what the normal insurance cost for an effective drug treatment facility would be but it would be a small fraction of this.

    Net result: lawsuits are costing Narconon over $800,000, around 40% of program revenue, in administrative costs. And that number is not likely to be lower in 2015 versus 2014, as more suits move to settlement. No real business can survive for long with that kind of headwind.

    7. The “Land, Buildings and Equipment” section on p. 18 mentions that most of the original asset cost was for “equipment” rather than for “buildings” or “leasehold improvements.” Very curious, because “equipment” is basically stuff that’s not built into the building. That could include automobiles, computers, etc. In a hospital, “equipment” would include CAT scanners, etc. Other than the saunas, which would be part of the “building,” I’m not aware that Narconon’s “treatment” requires any capital equipment that would buoy that line.

    For a facility the size of Narconon Arrowhead, I’m surprised to see that number so much larger than for building/leasehold improvements. The depreciated value is much smaller, because equipment typically depreciates in 3-10 years and buildings go for 30. But I wonder what kind of “equipment” they’re talking about. This is an oddity, not a clear indication of any hanky-panky based on the evidence I’ve got. It may be that they bought a ton of e-meters at $10,000 apiece years ago, another way of moving money “uplines” and are in the latter stages of depreciating it.

    8. One indication of low business momentum is the “customer deposits” number on p. 19, in the amount of $15,753. That’s probably about one customer’s worth. However, given the relatively short period of time we’d expect between when a parent charges a deposit on the credit card and the time someone arrives to begin their immersion in quack therapy, I wouldn’t expect to see this number all that high. It’s probably an artifact from someone who paid a deposit right after Christmas but due to an overloaded air travel system couldn’t get to Oklahoma until a couple days after New Year’s Day 2015.

    9. Page 22, “Grants and Other Assistance to Domestic Individuals” lists 15 individuals that divided up a total of $9,547. The footnote mentions they give “return to work” grants for “selected students” who work at the organization. They get $50 per week. That gives us a cross-check on the success rate of the program — out of the approximately 50-60 people they got paid for, about 1/4 of those were willing to stay on staff and continue their Scientology training. And the average tenure of those people was thus about 12 weeks before they either became “real” staff or they moved on.

    Given the payroll of over $1.4 million, this implies that new grads of Narconon are no longer the pipeline for staff members. It also suggests that those on the payroll as full-fledged staff members are probably sending much of their paychecks back “uplines” in the form of “donations” to the cult, as we’ve suspected elsewhere.

    • PickAnotherID

      On item 4, I suspect a large portion of that “pay” gets returned in the form of ‘courses paid for’, or straight up ‘donations’. And that ‘equipment’ was probably purchased from $cientology at quadrupal the retail price to justify the depreciation write off. It would be nice if someone insisted on a complete list of that ‘equipment’, along with purchase invoices to verify that deduction.

    • Juicer77

      Thanks, John. P! It is heartening to think that less and less Narconon survivors (they truly are!) no longer become staff members. I hope this trend continues. I also hope some nice IRS auditor takes PickAnotherID’s excellent suggestion and requests a list of “equipment” being written off!

      If anyone in the Bunker has connections to an IRS employee or government rep, please forward this information. Even if this is “legitimate” tax practice (ugh) it would go toward showing what a fraud the Co$ is.

    • Social Betterment Properties International should own the building/property and be collecting rent.

      Their 2007 Form 990 before they got “religion” and stopped filing:

      • ze moo

        Arrowhead took out a mortgage a few years ago. I do not know who holds that note. I interpreted that move as a way to suck equity out of the business.

        • Or at least keep in limbo so that if someone won a big judgement against them all the value would be “on the other side of the horse”, as Hubbard liked to say.

    • ze moo

      While Clark Carr is hiding, he appears to be drawing a pay check as a ‘trustee’. Management of a NarCONon used to be a huge perk doled out to the most loyal minons. The boss of the rehab and the top ‘administrators’ used to draw 100-200k per year. I would imagine a large kick back was involved, but what do I know? I do wish Luke Catton or Eric Tenerio would chime in on this issue.

      • Your point about the high management salaries is consistent with what I saw when I reviewed the 990’s for Narconon Watsonville a couple years ago — management all made over $100k on the back of $3 million or $4 million in total revenue, a very top-heavy pay structure. It was surprising to see them paying NN OK management so little in this document, but it is undoubtedly due to their pathetic performance as the business circles the drain.

        • Does management really make that money, or is most of passed ‘uplilnes’ by various means?

          I suspect those high ‘salaries’ are part of Scientologys endless money-laundering efforts, and the ‘ company officers’ see just enough to live on, like everybody else in the CofS.

          • I’m sure that most of it is contributed right back to the cult to pad the IAS donation lines and other donations at the local org levels. Punching up those numbers is strategically far more important than the profit/loss of an individual Narconon in terms of the marketing messaging to keep the scam going.

            If you look at payroll taxes and similar lines on the 990, those amounts are at a quick eyeball glance reasonable for the salaries paid.

    • Noesis

      “…You’d think they’d get him (Clark Carr) off the masthead to reduce the odds that he’ll be sought for depositions…”

      John, you just aren’t thinking like OSA.

      Leaving Carr on the masthead while simultaneously facilitating his run for the border (last sighting – Tijuana?) provides more of the phony fiduciary / shell company / asset conveyance / squid ink necessary for Scientology to continue its criminal operations, while ensuring that no actual persons are held accountable individually.

      This of course is only true up to the point where either Hubbard himself, or later Dave, are threatened in which case folks are encouraged (or forced) to go all “Bolivar” and eventually one or more suckers are found to take the legal fall while the top guy moves his attention to the next round of deliberate fraud.

      More squid ink. It never stops. And if it ever looks like it has stopped, one can rest assured that even that apparency is just more squid ink.

      EDIT to add: Thanks for your excellent overall analysis.

    • aquaclara

      I like your thinking, JP. That’s a lot of depreciating of e-meters, but trust Scientology to find a way to recycle through that old warehouse of outdated equipment. Can equipment also be cartons of the Basics? Calmag and vitamin bomb supplies?
      You and JSwift would be able to give the IRS quite a walk-through of how this scam operates. And quite a few other Bunkeroos could add to this with documentation and testimony.
      IRS, where are you?

      • Graham

        “IRS, where are you?” They’re too busy at the moment, taxing all those Olympians who won gold medals. Much easier than tackling a nasty cult that might fight back.

        • aquaclara

          So true.

      • Copies of books, vitamins, t-shirts and running shoes and other stuff like that should go in “inventory” because they’re things that are sold to customers. They’re like a raw material that becomes part of the product. Any e-meters designated for sale to a consumer would similarly go into inventory.

        E-meters that are used internally to “produce” the “product” would be depreciated and their value would go on that “equipment” line. If a used e-meter that was used in a course room were to be sold to a consumer, you would have to create accounting entries that transferred it from Equipment back into Inventory, adjusted any depreciation amounts for partial months’ depreciation claimed, and then you’d have to add it at that value to the inventory balance before selling it.

        Books may be odd in this situation. Typically, you’d treat a book like a pencil — the useful life is too short and the value is too low to depreciate. The Basics, which costs $3,000 at retail, could be considered based on the cost to be an asset that must be capitalized, but I think in this case the principle of treating it based on how it’s used would be more important and it would be expensed. I could be wrong on this because I’m a finance guy and not an accountant — there’s a difference. I know how to understand and use accounting information but I don’t know the rules and principles for putting accounting information together.

        • ze moo

          I suspect that NarCONon depreciated the value of the sauna steam turning into water.

    • chukicita

      I can’t get past “Narconon’s reputation is roughly as safe as Ebola-coated kiddie porn” long enough to read the rest, but I will as soon as I stop laughing.

      Re: Payroll – could some of it be to “staff” who aren’t on-site, such as Narc Int execs or DM’s gardener?

    • J. Swift

      Thanks for the analysis John P. Narconon’s legal and insurance expenses essentially argue that Narconon relies upon a Corvair model of doing business. The Corvair was a death trap of car, but so long as Chevrolet sold 200,000 units a year the profit far outweighed the cost of litigating and settling wrongful death lawsuits.

      There are some fat salaries in Narconon. The 2014 990 for Narconon West shows Luria K. Dion pulling down $130,207. The biggest salaries I have ever seen in Scientology are from 2012 and were paid to employees of Narconon Vista Bay in Watsonville, CA.

      In FY 2012, Daniel Manson made $336,762 and Angie Manson made $331,396. Although the 990 is a legal public document, Narconon Vista Bay likely got this 2012 990 removed from my Scribd account. I suspect this was because the folks in Vista Bay did not want their clients seeing how much money they made. Look at these salaries:

  • JaxNGold

    Alexander Cockburn. Now that’s unfortunate.

  • Sejanus

    Circle the drain NarConon

  • Hmm. Jeanne Trahant cooked did the Form 990 for Per Wickstrom’s Narconon Freedom Center in Michigan.

    I thought that name was familiar. Is she related to Larry Trahant, CEO of Narconon Fresh Start in California?

    • Ah, Jeannie Trahant. The usual dodgy name spelling that frequently happens.

      Category:Jeannie Trahant

      A Narconon Georgia connection too? It’s a small world.

  • Graham

    Wow! I never realised the IRS could be such bad-ass mudda-fuckas. They actually tax US Olympic gold medal winners on the value of the metal in the medal they gave their all to win. Such a ruthless, hard-line attitude should serve them well when they review Scientology’s tax-exempt status, which they must be planning to do any day now? Hey? [Get the Olympics out of the way first of course].

    [I’m assuming this is a genuine report. Apologies if it’s a satire piece from The Onion. Difficult to know sometimes]

    • jazzlover

      What many Americans who couldn’t be bothered to care about scientology and its 501(c)(3) brethren fail to realize is that there will always be conservation of revenue as far as the IRS is concerned. Necessary costs for infrastructure don’t just disappear. “If we ain’t gettin’ it from them, we’ll get it from you”. So yeah, “bad-ass mudda-fuckas”, indeed.

    • Juicer77

      The IRS has always taxed “gifts” and “winnings” at an exponential rate. We all need to keep PUSHING our government reps to put the Co$ through some REAL AUDITING. And I’m not talkin’ about on the cans, neither.

      • jazzlover

        As far as Olympic medals go, this may matter less today than it ever has. I can’t really picture Carmelo Anthony complaining about paying tax on a Gold while earning 25 million bucks a year 🙂

  • Robert Hanna Moore

    My favorite part of the Jacobin article:

    A Sea Org recruit assigned to washing cars will not be given a bucket
    of water and told to get on with it; before even getting near the bucket
    of water, she must read, memorize, and be examined on Hubbard’s policy
    letter outlining the correct way to wash a car.

    I want that PL. Google led me to this (F5), but I can’t find the actual PL at that site.

  • If Miscavige is planning on reinventing Narconon as ’boutique’ facilities, catering to Scientologists and rich people, (whom he could then manipulate) this seems to be seriously overdue.

    Of course, it could be that he’s trying, but his famous inability to achieve any such task in a timely manner means that it’s going to take years while he micromanages the process, urgent or not.

    If the situation is the same next year, I would suggest that the CofS showing definite signs of organisational collapse – despite their massive reserved, they are actually incapable of doing anything about this situation. It’s possible that Miscavige wants Narconon to be a ‘success’ as it stands, can’t understand why this isn’t happening, and will just go on trying.

    For some time now, Narconon has been a PR disaster. Now it’s losing the CofS millions every year. That’s not going to cut deep into its income or reserves – but Scientology now relies on Front Groups to engage with the wider world at all. If they start to become a burden, the organisation has nowhere else to go.

    They can’t recruit, and they can’t hide, and the actual practice of Scientology in the Orgs seems to have been de-emphasised in favour of selling ‘statues’. All they have left is to put even more pressure on existing Scientologists, who must now be suffering from serious donation fatigue.

    Scientology now probably has the lowest ever number of effective people in its ranks, and even they can’t act effectively because they are paralysed by the interference and unrealistic expectations of ‘higher management’. All those empty, redundant, facilities must be degrading their ability to act effectively as an organisation, too.

    It’s a slow process, but Scientology’s organisational collapse seems to be under way. Look our for some major blunders in future.

    • Juicer77

      I want to be thrilled, but I fear the fallout on the average Sea Argher and their families. Hopefully the “blow stats” reported each morning (who left unauthorized overnight!) are higher each day. f5 (This one’s for you, Baby! Enjoy your time off. 🙂

      • Unfortunately there seems to be a choice of evils.

        If the CofS collapses, many Scientologists (and those close to them) will be harmed in the process. If Scientology continues, many more will be harmed.

        I think it’s past time to think how to minimise the harm done (for example, by providing information about the support available to member of high-control groups who want to jump ship, but are afraid of life in a wider world that they know nothing about.

  • KingofSweden

    Wow, that Jacobin piece really is terrific… thanks for sharing, Tony!

  • 0tessa

    Narconon is a waste of money. As front group for Scientology it only costs money. Added the negative press and law suits, it’d better disappear. It will save lives too.
    Miscavige will probably decide to keep a few luxury detox centres for celebs and the like, that will at least be economically selfsupporting and will bring those (rich) ‘up stats’ into Scientology for further services.
    But even then I doubt whether Narconon will ever be selfsupporting. Because in the end it is just Scientology cloaking as a detox, and a very bad and dangerous one for that matter.
    It’d better disappear, for good.

  • flyonthewall

    Jacobins writing about Scientology?? Let The Terror begin

    • I’m a Leveller, myself

      • flyonthewall

        I think I saw Oliver Cromwell lurking about, best keep an eye out!

        • ze moo

          Or keep your head up!

      • Graham

        Every year since 1975 ‘left wingers’ have celebrated Levellers Day in the Oxfordshire town of Burford. Burford’s one of the cutesiest, twee, chocolate-boxy, bourgeois, middle class towns in England so it’s a bit of culture shock for the tourists to see a parade of trades unionists taking over the high street.

        • There’s a wonderful book called “The World Turned Upside Down” which examines the political movements that proliferated after the English Civil War.

          These people where considered insane at the time – but they only advocated things which are now commonplace features of a liberal democracy, like universal suffrage and the rule of law.

          • Graham

            I’ll have to see if Oxford Library has a copy (That’s the real Oxford Library, not the fake Oxford Capacity Library). I believe it was not only a time of chaos and experimentation in the political world but also sexually and religiously. How many religious charlatans roamed the land forming their own crazy little cults?

          • Graham

            Yep, Oxford Library has it and I’ve reserved it!

            • I liked the Oxford Capacity Library gag, by the way…
              I wonder what kind of books they would hold – if any.

            • Graham

              The Oxford Capacity Library is full of books on psychology, philosophy and religion, all designed to demonstrate what useless waste of space degraded beings we all are. The motto over the door: MEA CULPA, MEA MAXIMA CULPA.

    • Doctor Guillotine’s execution device is far kinder than Doctor Hubbard’s.

  • Jimmy3

    Always claims to be clean but is full of goddamn lies, attracts only the shadiest of shady people, always broke and doesn’t work. Pretty sure I went to high school with Narconon.

  • Mat Pesch

    Almost all orgs, missions and front groups, even the Fleawinds can’t support itself and are window dressing. Props to make the illusion that Scientology is doing great and the answer to “saving the planet”. The illusion is needed to bring in the REAL money and that is direct donations for buildings, the IAS “war chest”, etc, etc. The dedicated staff walk around with holes in their clothes and empty pockets while billions sit stashed away and Miscavige literally lives like one of the richest men in the world. Scientology tried to survive by just selling books, courses and counseling. Even with slave labor it struggled. It found that it could trick and bully FAR more money

    out of people. Why do all the work of providing $1,000 worth of service to 1,000 people when you can trick one person to give you 1 million dollars for nothing, no exchange.

    • flyonthewall

      plus with straight donations there is no liability of having money on account for unused services that people may demand back. There’s also no danger of being sued for damages caused by the “Tech” a la Wollersheim and Christofferson etc. From Miscavige’s POV, straight donations are a no brainer really

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Props to make the illusion that Scientology is doing great and the answer to ‘saving the planet’.”

      Notice how the primary goal of $cn has shifted from “clearing the planet,” to “saving the planet,” even in the promo designed to be seen only by $cilons?

      That’s because progress toward the ultimate “star-high” goal of auditing every man, woman and child on the planet to the state of clear that ‘Source’ designated as the ultimate mission of $cn is an actual stat that one could monitor over time to graph the trend line of the progress (or lack thereof) that had been made toward the accomplishment of that goal. Strangely, the number of clears that have attested to completion of that level of processing is not a stat that you ever hear reported at any level within the organizational hierarchy. It is as if someone decided to quietly re-define what the ultimate goal of $cn is, but to do it in a way that wouldn’t be obvious.

      Given that the earth’s population isn’t just standing still, waiting around for $cn to clear it, it’s quite possible that many more humans are being born than the total number who have either been cleared or just died off without being ‘saved’. So, the reason that whoever is in charge of giving the faithful an update on the progress being made in achieving Elron’s original and ultimate goal hasn’t done so in a very, very long time is quite likely to be that the graphed trend line of the year-by-year increase in the total number of attested clear vs. the net increase in the world’s population is anything but a “straight up and vertical” line. Really, the only question there is how steep of a descent that trend line is following!

      And speaking of missing key stats, when is the last time anyone even heard of well done auditing hours and number of fully trained auditors being reported? These two key stats and their trend lines over time would allow any of the $cn faithful to note at a glance how much progress was being made, but they appear to have been purposefully omitted in order to prevent folks from being able to do exactly that. It’s a very simple question: How many well done auditing hours have been delivered and how many full trained auditors have been created in each of the years since DM assumed power?

      The conspiracy of silence regarding this, seemingly purposeful, omission of key stats is immense and constitutes a whole herd of elephants parked on the porch of $cn’s eternity! How is it that, out of all the $cilons in the world, no one would have the temerity to demand answers to questions about these key stats that, per policy, should have been made readily available to all already!?

      Every whale and celeb who’s contributed millions, and every staff and public $cilon who’ve contributed their time and money toward the clearing of the planet, deserves an honest account of the progress that’s been made towards its achievement. And since DM has centralized power unto himself, while assuming the sole voice of command intention within the cherch’s organizational power hierarchy, those stats are HIS stats, and the reason that they’re missing is very likely to be no mere oversight.

      In fact, I’d be willing to wager that the well done auditing hours and number of trained auditor stats have been crashing for years, if not decades, and his decision to conceal this fact represents an act of unprecedented treason to the group. No matter how many square feet of Ideal org space that has been created, and regardless of how many millions of dollars of IAS paper statuses that have been sold, if well done auditing hours and the number of trained auditors have not increased, then there’s no possible way the planet is in the process of being cleared!

      Responsibility for that failure can only be placed at the feet of the man who’s wielded absolute power and coercive control over $cn for close to three decades now. For folks in $cn who’ve been sent off on wild goose and snipe hunts, looking for SP’s under every rock and couch cushion, there’s really only ever been one true SP in $cn and that’s the individual who the faithful have allowed to destroy their religion from within!

      • Given that the earth’s population isn’t just standing still, waiting around for $cn to clear it, it’s quite possible that many more humans are being born than the total number who have either been cleared or just died off without being ‘saved’.

        The UN estimates that 355,000 babies are born each and every day of the year. That’s more than the number of people who have ever considered themselves “real” Scientologists (i.e., doing more than one course or buying a book) over the last 60+ years.

        Incidentally, I suspect that a part of the reason (there are many parts) that people don’t demand answers is that longtime members don’t want to confront the insanity of having spent the majority of the disposable income they’ll ever learn on an organization that is failing in delivering “tech” that’s patently bogus. It’s emotional “sunk cost” bias run amok, like an investor holding stock in a dying company in hopes their fortunes will turn around soon. So they keep showing up and hoping the next class will be “the one” and they’ll finally get all those super powers, and then they’ll be right about the decision to vaporize their financial security.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Wow, there you go right there! Subtract the number of folks who die each day, then compare that to the average number of folks who attest to clear each day and you end up with graphed trend line that looks more like “straight DOWN and vertical” 😉

          No wonder those missing data points, along with the number of well done auditing hours and trained auditor course completions, have unmagically disappeared!

          I agree, there has to be a level of cognitive dissonance at work there that could cause your head to explode if those very clear indicators of actual progress toward clearing the planet were to be made public. So, to avoid that dire consequence, everyone just goes into passive agreement with what seems to outsiders like a very naked emperor and an entire inner court.

          The potentially saving grace there is that it’s completely possible for folks to maintain whatever belief they have in Elron’s tech’s effectiveness, while laying the blame for $cn’s catastrophic stat crash and ensuing cover up directly at the feet of The Great SP, david misavage.

          $cn’s space opera origin story and promises of heaven-on-earth super powers is seriously whacky, but without the criminal mafia top organizational structure that’s currently guiding it, who really cares what folks believe; it’s what they do that counts.

  • 10oriocookies

    Arrowheads numbers for 2015 and 2016 are even worse. The last three graduates they posted photos of were from the local Indian tribe. In all of my time at Narconon I have never heard of one of these actually paying for the program. So they have resorted to letting almost all of their staff go and giving the program away for free. Sad state of affairs over there. They should have told the truth back in 2013 when the credentialing thing happened.

    • aquaclara

      “They should have told the truth…”
      The more it goes on, the worse it gets. Thanks to some great folks who spoke up.
      (Psst. Thank you!)

    • chukicita

      Wasn’t it the Tonkawa, Kaw and Choctaw who made the deal with Narconon (and then the Tonkawa extended it without permission from the others)? The three grads are Ponca. Not sure if they live on the same rez.

  • They have 95 employees? I think beyond everything else that’s the most shocking part. First of all where do these employees live? They are making less than $20K a year (based on the payroll information) and Narconon Arrowhead isn’t exactly in an area with lots of real estate. 95 people is roughly half the population of the nearest town Canadian.

    • Jimmy3

      Dope fiends can sleep anywhere, dude. There’s probably one sleeping right behind your laptop and you didn’t notice.

      • Holy shit you’re right. He used the series of internet tubes to travel here!

    • Kestrel

      Maybe that 95 number represents the number of people who worked there over the course of a year and not the number of filled positions. I suspect a place like that would have a high turnover rate. As far as where they live, McAlester, population 18,000, is only 20 miles away. Besides, a number of cabins flank the lodge. Maybe they live there.

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    So, ABLE and Social Betterment are propping up Narconon. It raises the question: Where do ABLE and Social Betterment get THEIR money from??

    • 3feetback-of-COS


    • aquaclara

      John Travolta?

    • 9001

      In the UK it looks like the IAS are propping up Narconon directly. The screenshot below is from Narconon Trust’s annual accounts. (f5)
      Edit: Sorry it’s come out so small, cropped it in Gimp instead of Photoshop.

    • Well, I do believe that both are avowedly directly controlled by Captain David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige, so if there’s a reason for finding out (like, a lawsuit), maybe he could explain it all under oath?

  • I’ve been enjoying Chris Shelton’s slow-motion autopsy of J Gordon Melton’s travesty of academic publishing. I still can’t believe Oxford University Press put its name to it. The essays provide a treasure trove of academic failings and final, proof positive, that the only social “scientists” who can provide an accurate analysis of Scientology are criminologists. Melton has attempted to obscure his unforgivable promotion of Scientology, and other cults, by claiming to be taking a “missiological” approach. While this is true, in my OPINION, Melton has also been driven by venality, lazy intellectual ineptitude, and inherent personal cowardice. The man is a disgrace.

    Having said that, Douglas Cowan’s contribution, which Chris talks about in this latest video, provides a more piercing insight into Scientology and is one of only a few bright patches in the book. Its a shame Cowan wriggles and equivocates around the point that Scientology is not a religion. While accurately accepting that it is not, his justifications for ignoring the fact are entirely self-serving and ultimately futile. Chris, sort of, highlights this in his criticism of Cowan for opting to focus on Scientology public and not the Sea Org. In effect, what Chris is pointing out is that Cowan is, basically, trying to study the Mafia by considering only its victims.

    Also, I have to partially disagree with both Cowan and Chris when it comes to the passage concerning difficulties researchers face when dealing with Scientology . . .

    . . . (1) lack of access to relevant Scientological data and materials; (2) lack of understanding on the part of [Scientology] about the social function of scholarship; and (3) lack of trust on the part of academics that research into [Scientology] will not put them or their institutions in jeopardy . . .

    As for (1): Sure, Scientology is never going to hand over its statistics and income details. As Chris points out, to do so would immediately expose Scientology’s leader, Sea Org Captain David Miscavige, as the prolific liar that he is. However, there is plenty of data available concerning membership numbers and, as evidenced by today’s and other recent posts, there is sufficient income data available to provide an indication of how Scientology is doing generally. Also, there is an abundance of Scientology material available about such things as recruitment practises and all the other inner-workings of Scientology. Its to be found in the plethora of leaked materials scattered all over the interwebz and within the volumes containing both the “tech” and management practises of Scientology. One doesn’t even really need access to the Xenu story to know how dangerous Scientology is to the minds of its followers. A close examination of its so-called Axioms is sufficient.

    (Speaking of which, such an examination will show that Scientology, according to L Ron Hubbard, involves the stripping away of everything but actualities in order to develop spiritually. This is one of the reasons why J Gordon Melton made such a total arse of himself when he declared that the Xenu story was a metaphor. If Melton had actually read and/or understood what the “Axioms” claim he would know that its not possible, according to Scientology, to “duplicate” metaphors AND develop spiritually. What’s required is the “duplication” of exact time, form, place, and event which means that the Xenu story is, according to the mind of a Scientologist, 100 percent true.)

    Other publicly-available Scientology material provides ample evidence as to what Scientology does to the minds of its followers. Essentially, its about obtaining total control in order to distract from the otherwise blatant fraud. Screeds have been written about how this is achieved and some critics have even developed a series of “Laws” which describe it. Consider just the observation “L Ron Hubbard Law Of Commotion: For every Scientology policy and piece of tech, there is an equal and opposite policy and piece of tech“. For example, most people know how damning L Ron Hubbard is about “Jokers and Degraders” describing them as being insane, or severely PTS, or Rock Slammers or No Case Gains. Yet, put that against L Ron Hubbard’s earlier “scripture” where he said

    . . . What is the emotion of thinking something is serious? Scan it. Scan all the seriousness off the case. It is only when an individual progresses in life to a point where much seriousness is attached to things that he begins to have a hard time. The ancient Italian really knew what he was about when he considered that the only psychotherapy was laughter . . .

    ^^^ The Dianetic Auditor’s Bulletin, Volume 2, No. 8, February, 1952 “Cause and Effect.”

    . . . confusing? Of course it is. Its meant to be. How can a person not develop cognitive dissonance when, on the one hand, being serious can dramatically worsen their “case” and then, on the other, taking the piss about what’s going on means you’re insane? And that’s just one example. What about the Creeds and Codes of Scientology? (<— WARNING: Scilon site.) Items 1, 2 and 3 state . . .

    1 – Never desert a comrade in need, in danger or in trouble.

    2 – Never withdraw allegiance once granted.

    3 – Never desert a group to which you owe your support.

    . . . what sort of creed or code cites those and yet forces people to disconnect? Its crazy, or its very, very cunning. And its also indicative of the state of mind Scientology creates in order to keep people actively forking over bundles of money (cash preferred) as they make their way along the interminable Bridge to Xenu.

    Now, (2) – “lack of understanding on the part of [Scientology] about the social function of scholarship”. To say that Scientology doesn’t understand this is to deny reality. Of course Scientology understands the social function of scholarship. That is why Scientology is so utterly opposed to it. L Ron Hubbard realised the danger of scholars in the 1950s when researchers under the aegis of New York University, and with L Ron Hubbard’s initial assistance, completely debunked the basis for engrams. That’s why Scientology does everything it can to corrupt scholars who want to research the subject. That’s why the last thing Scientology wants is for its young adherents to go to university. That’s why Scientology never cooperates with scholars unless it can control the end result. And that’s why item (3) in the list of difficulties faced by researchers is absolutely valid. If a scholar does not provide, at the very least a sympathetic outcome, that scholar will be “Fair Gamed”.


    Glad I got that off my chest. Sorry for the ramble, but I did find myself particularly exercised by the most recent video. Which is a good thing. It means Chris is doing a great job. Personally, I only skimmed Melton’s book having been thoroughly sickened by the first chapter. Actually poring over it is not a task I would want to do but it is most certainly a valuable one. Carry on. I’m looking forward to MOAR!!11!!

    • A towering home-run shot into the upper bleachers! Chris should republish this as an addendum to his story.

      • Juicer77
      • High praise, indeed! Thank you. Your analysis of the most recent data from Narconon ain’t too shabby either. It never ceases to amaze me just how revealing even a scant spreadsheet can be to a numbers person. That you can also translate your findings into elegant, easy-to-understand prose is a rare combination of abilities. I expect to see much MOAR from you too. 🙂

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “… the only social “scientists” who can provide an accurate analysis of Scientology are criminologists.”

      Dead on the money! And if the IRS forensic accounting department was ever turned loose on this ‘criminal mafia posing as a religion,’ then we’d have a full picture of exactly the magnitude of the fraud and the details of the cherch’s violations of the conditions under which they were given their tax-exempt status.

      A toothless, cowed IRS is enabling this criminal organization to continue to defraud thousands and abuse the civil rights of staff and parishioners with impunity. I’d absolutely love to see some young, ambitious and progressive pol, like California’s Lt. Governor (ank likely next Governor) Gavin Newsome, champion the cause to strip $cn of its undeserved federal/state tax exempt status and abolish the practice of family disruption that the cherch has been engaged in through coerced disconnection orders, forced abortions and coerced divorces. The parallels to Warren Jeffs’ fundamentalist Mormon polygamist cult are striking and need to be exposed and prosecuted just as vigorously!

      • Thank you for your kind words. I would love some gutsy politician to make a name for themself by dragging Scientology kicking and screaming in the criminal courts. I don’t hold out even the slightest hope for Gavin Newsom being that politician, though. He was wrapped up by Scientology back in 2007 when he did a stint in Narconon and very shortly thereafter started dating Scientologist Sophia Milos. He is currently married to Scientologist Jennifer Siebel. If anything, Newsom is being held ransom by Scientology in rather the same way John Travolta is.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Wow, I had no idea that Newsome had ever been involved with $cn or any of its front groups. I was aware that he’d had some alcohol dependence issues and marital problems that he got sorted out, but was never clued into the details. I was also unaware that his wife is a scientologist!

          Neither of those facts makes my naive hope seem like a good bet then, huh? However, as an increasing number of progressive folks who pride themselves on their religious tolerance become aware of the gruesome details of how the cherch has operated with respect to its most dedicated members, my bet is that you’ll see more and more of them who are not hard-core $cilons distancing themselves from the cherch and publicly denouncing the actions of its leaders.

          Interestingly, if celebs like JT, who have been coerced and blackmailed into remaining loyal to the cherch, despite an awareness of how others have been similarly betrayed, were to get together and share notes on how they’ve been mistreated by the cherch, they might realize that there was safety in numbers and that they were in a key position to bring about the kind of reform that’s been very long overdue.

          To the degree that the cherch has been violating the sanctity of the confessional and coercing its leading members, the possibility of all that coming back to bite lil davey in the ass in a big way could be rather large.

          Could be time for a new SouthPark episode where everyone comes out of the $cn closet once and for all 😉

        • chukicita

          Frankly I think an applied anthropologist could provide an accurate analysis.

          A criminologist would need the help of a team of forensic accountants.

        • Len Zinberg

          I was aware of Newsom having dated Scientologist Sophia Milos.
          Is there a public source that identifies his current wife, Jennifer Siebel, as a Scientologist because I couldn’t find one. Thanks.

          • sizzle8

            I couldn’t find anything either.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Narconon Arrowhead’s unavoidable future:

  • scnethics

    The queasiness on the far right about complaints against “churches” isn’t felt by rank and file evangelicals, who consider Scientology a tool of Satan. When Scientology needs more from far right politicians than to remain silent, those politicians will reveal themselves as the biggest Scientology haters around.

    • ze moo

      They are also the first ones to be safe pointed.

      • scnethics

        Definitely. But if you rely on evangelicals to get elected, you cannot go to bat for scientology in a public, meaningful way. I guess if scientology’s tax exempt status ever comes under fire, we’ll find out.

  • Don’t count Lil Davey out, he’s a genius. Why, just look what he did with that picture – rounded up the shortest people at Narconon to pose with him so he looks good. Unfortunately, he’s shrunken in the last decade or so.

    • He just keeps finding shorter and shorter folks.

      • Draco

        Haha! It wouldn’t surprise me if he framed this photo and put it up in his private man cave where only he can see it. It reflects what he thinks he is! Poor lil Davey.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Hahahah…and just look, every one of those ‘short people’ appear microcephalic in comparison to davey’s big brain 😉

    • Observer

      I’m only a few months older than DM, and I’ve lost 3/4″ in height over the past few years. I’ve got it to spare, though. I bet Captain Miscavige ends up below 5′.

      • Sooner, after he gets “compacted” by his cellmate Bubba in prison, where he’ll experience different kinds of lifts.

  • ze moo

    The ‘donations’ given to Arrowhead are the only thing keeping it open. The management of NarCONons used to be a huge payoff for DM’s most loyal minions. The director could ‘officially’ pull down 150-200k a year. I have to wonder how much kickback was involved, but no info has ever surfaced on that matter.

    The depreciation on whatever is a very high number. Others have dissected this number downthread very well. There are several very large red flags in the 990 and would cause an IRS audit if anyone were really looking. Congress has so emasculated the IRS that they can only threaten the local pizza parlor.

    That the parade of ‘students’ to Arrowhead has become a death march is very heartening. Lives are being saved there.

  • ToadallyBoss

    Does the crime syndicate’s reported losses include the costs of the criminal defense and the civil defense they had to expend for over the past few years?

    • ze moo

      I don’t know of any criminal cases outside of NarCONon Georgia in the last 5-7 years. The 990’s we have seen analyzed here only refer to NarCONon Arrowhead. The suits against the Michigan, California and other NarCONons are not included here.

  • nottrue

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I’ve done this to all the dentist and orthodontists I can find that are affiliated with WISE. Publics, I guess you could coin them. You should read their defensive retorts. I’d post some of the better ones but..

  • Observer

    OSA is taking notes.

    Effective Bunker derail tactic: post anti-Islam rants.

    People driven by fear and hate will not respond to reason. Just an observation.

    • Employ GAIT II.

    • Snuzey

      I’m done now. No more from me! 😉

    • they are OSA Indies and the more we get from this angle, the closer i get to my target.

    • I take your point. Thing is, I’m interested this person’s abrupt delusion that it is they who are are the only one here exercising ‘critical thinking’.

      I’m reminded of Ayn Rand who presented a ‘philosophy’ she called ‘objectivism’. It was supposed to promote personal freedom and individuality. However, if you part of Rand’s circle you were only allowed the freedom to agree with her. People where punished and banished for even small deviations.

      It seems that no programme, however rational, can save you from the failure of personal judgement when you have emotional reasons for insisting on the absolute truth of a proposition. That’s down to the character, not intelligence nor education.

      I don’t think this is a derail tactic. It is someone who, for irrational reasons needs to ‘win’ this argument and has lost their way. Since they are,sadly, now wandering a labyrinth of their own making, I will engage ‘ignore tech’.

      • it’s not a coincidence

      • Observer

        I don’t think this was OSA, but I do think OSA has taken note of how effective a derail it is.

        • bingo!

        • Robert Eckert

          Enthralled isn’t OSA (she’s been here for years) but StayPuft very well may be.

          • she doesn’t have to be, the compensation is from somewhere else

          • Observer

            StayPuft has posted off and on for quite awhile as well. I don’t think either are OSA, but I think OSA is always on the lookout for ideas on how to disrupt, and this has proven quite effective.

        • Not sure if it’s OSA either, but I wouldn’t be surprised. They have all those swell new computers and that nice, space age Internet Center with the comfy chairs. Much more pleasant than scrubbing toilets or body routing. And for the record, I definitely don’t think EO is OSA.

        • That’s what I understood you to mean. If those kinds of comments had been made from a new account, I would have suspected OSA or a Scientologist ‘making amends’ and not have bothered.

          What’s perplexing is that is a person who previously participated in this forum, and had valid things to say. They do seem to have lost their way, somehow.

          • Juicer77

            Rather worrying.

            • Observer

              Fear can really screw a person up.

            • Juicer77

              Other things can, too.

      • MarcabExpat

        I would be inclined to agree except that multiple accounts started doing it all at the same time, sounding almost identical. I’ve blocked three accounts in five days. Why now all of a sudden? Why here instead of in more politically-oriented areas where their comments will get more pertinent traffic?

        I don’t think it was OSA, but for someone who is seemingly this irrational, the whole narrative thread of this little outbreak has been quite linear, and pretty efficient in terms of derail. The Bunker has been engaging in some extremely effective enturbulation in the past days, and I can easily see it as some volunteers anxious to score points by muddying the water here.

        • One person, sufficiently motivated, can operate multiple accounts.

          • MarcabExpat

            Oh absolutely, which is why I said “accounts,” not “people.” They sound to similar to be three random people who all suddenly developed the need to do this.

            It’s the “sufficiently motivated” part, really, that I’m pondering. That’s a lot of work. If it’s a tactic (and I think it is), it’s very effective, and the timing is very interesting.

            • Irrational hatred is also, sadly, very motivating.

            • MarcabExpat

              Well, this is, sadly, very undeniable.

            • Mockingbird

              That’s an interesting idea for a motivational speaker.

    • kemist

      Eh. Can’t reason someone out of a position they didn’t reason themselves in in the first place.

      I guess it’s easy to be afraid of muslims when you don’t know any personally, and realize how similar adherents of Islams are to adherents of any other religions – you’ll find everything on the spectrum from the fundamentalist freaks to the holidays-only, “I’ll drink and I’ll eat bacon if I feel like it” people.

      • picketflag247

        I agree there is no reason to hate Muslims. Maybe he doesn’t hate Muslims so much as those who want to bring Muslims into Western countries.

  • madame duran

    Re: Recent political distraction posts

    Y’all know that it’s Thursday 2pm deadline time again, right? And that Rue Day is EVERY day?

    A reminder for OSA and David Miscavige who are born to FAIL:

  • chukicita

    Love the Jon Anderson article – really great job getting to the heart:

    “Even strong believers in religious freedom are beginning to see that defending the cult is as misguided as defending groups like Warren Jeffs’s Fundamentalist Church of Jesus Christ of the Latter Day Saints. The First Amendment protects religious groups from government interference but, as Jeffs discovered, it does not protect their members or leaders from prosecution for illegal activities.”

  • Panopea Abrupta

    A picture is worth …
    Here in Lego is DM facing his future 🙂

  • Hamtaro

    Going to Narconon for drug rehab is the same as going to a leprechaun for advice on investing in gold.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    I just watched today’s vid by Chris Shelton (great), read part of the comments (great) and I’m half way through the Jacobin article (great read!).
    Now I come across there being this Policy Letter on how to correctly wash a car. I really need a short break now!

  • Juicer77

    Isn’t it about time the good folks who got the special photos uploaded to Cherch of $cientology on G o o b l e M a p s get to work on the NarCONon pages? Just wondering… NarCONon Arrowhead only has lovely photos of the surrounding area. It looks like a dream come true!

    • jazzlover

      I wouldn’t worry too much about Gooble Maps. It is extremely ass backwards. Last weekend, I had to find my way to a place that had a parking lot AND a left hand turn to get to the parking lot from the other side of a two way road. Gooble told me to go past the place, make a u-turn to get to the other side of the two way road, and then make a right into the parking lot. It seemed like a throwback to the days when people were afraid of making lefts 🙂

      • Juicer77

        Still worth putting some J&D on there. Otherwise some poor unsuspecting, desperate parent might think it’s legitimate.

        • jazzlover

          You’re right. But I would hope that any parent in that situation would do some serious research before placing their kid in the care of others.

          • Juicer77

            Ideally, yes. But exhaustion and desperation makes people less likely to do thorough research.

            • jazzlover

              Stop making sense! 😉

            • pilgrim


              Spot on Juicer!

  • Todd Tomorrow
  • ze moo

    Among the most telling numbers in the Arrowhead 990’s is the insurance bill. 300k per year is a huge slice of actual income. I think Arrowhead is in the ‘assigned risk’ insurance barrel.

    • Juicer77

      I think they’re in the “you gotta be kidding me” group. f5

  • Snortimer’s finding the weather in Arrowhead quite bracing… (Repeated but unconvincing choruses of ‘The World Owes Me A Living’):

  • MM

    From the Jacobin article: “A Sea Org recruit assigned to washing cars will not be given a bucket of water and told to get on with it; before even getting near the bucket of water, she must read, memorize, and be examined on Hubbard’s policy letter outlining the correct way to wash a car.”

    Well of course they won’t be given just any bucket of water – that would be kinda arbitrary, don’t you think? It certainly wasn’t for nothing that Dr. Hubbard developed and refined the only complete and effective technology of administration in existence, so the only correct and sensible way to handle the task of “giving them a bucket of water” would be to use a plastic bucket (8 quarts or larger):

    Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex


    CAR WASHING (Post conspicuously in Garage)

    As all cars at Saint Hill have to date had their finishes injured severely by improper washing and polishing, the following steps only are to be taken in cleaning cars:

    Cars should be parked in garage so as to allow easy opening of door on the driver’s side. This permits easy entrance, dusting out, and prevents banging up of doors on garage wall.

    Do not get in cars with greasy overalls, shoes or hands. Use seat, floor and wheel covers.


    Keep all cleaning materials, seat covers, buckets, brushes, spray nozzles, in a cabinet in the open garage area. Always replace after use. Put up a cloth drying line in same area.

    The following cleaning materials should be procured and used.

    1. Hose

    2. Nozzle Spray.

    3. Two dozen soft cloths.

    4. A large, soft, bristle brush for exterior.

    5. A long, stiff bristle brush for under fenders.

    6. A Whisk Broom for Interiors.

    7. Three Turkey Feather Dusters.

    8. Clothes cleaning fluid.

    9. A plastic bucket (8 quarts or larger).

    10. A box of Tide.

    11. Cans of Simoniz Liquid Cleaner (but no other Simoniz product).

    12. Cans of Johnson’s Car Plate.

    13. A pile of newspapers.

    14. A spray can of window cleaner.


    Do NOT wipe with a rag as this scores the paint.

    Sweep car out, dust interior with a clean rag.

    Dust with a Turkey feather duster until no dust is apparent on surface.

    Wipe interior out (seats, sills, panel) with a clean soft rag.

    This is all that is required. Do not remove car from garage.


    1. Put car on ramp outside. Do not wipe.

    2. Hose all mud and dirt off car using a spray nozzle and hose and a soft brush. Use a special brush for under fenders.

    3. Using a clean damp cloth, apply liquid car cleaner to entire car exterior and chrome, including hub caps. Let it dry to brown white. To put on and wipe off use long straight strokes, no circular rubbing.

    4. When liquid car cleaner dry, wipe it off with a clean soft cloth, leaving no residue of the cleaner. Wipe off hub caps. Make sure no residue is left.

    5. Take a clean dry cloth and apply Car Plate with long, straight strokes. Cover entire car including chrome. Do not scrub it on, just wipe it on. Let it dry.

    6. With a clean soft cloth wipe off Car Plate. Do not attempt to polish. Car will be brilliant and dust will whisk off it with a feather duster.

    7. Put all rags in a bucket. Use detergent such as Tide. Wash and hang up on a line in garage.



    Dust windows off with Turkey Duster.

    Wet a newspaper and wipe off windows, getting all dirt.

    Take dry newspaper and polish windows.

    Don’t go over windows with a cleaning rag and never with an oil rag.

    Keep rags and cloths and wax and cleaners off windows or they will steam and fog up in damp weather.


    Use Carpet cleaners on floor carpets as per regular directions on their packages just as in the house.

    Use leather cleaners on leather seats.

    Be careful of smelly leather cleaners. A white, soft cream is best.

    Use a rag with clothes cleaning fluid on it to wipe off steering wheels, etc., interior.


    Remove any tar on the car with a rag and cleaning fluid.



    DUST is the main reason finishes and windows get ruined. Wiping a dusty surface with a dry cloth can ruin a car’s paint or windows.

    Abrasive Cleaners and solid wax spoil a car’s paint within a year or two.


    Copyright (c) 1962
    by L. Ron Hubbard

    • Observer

      Shouldn’t the most able, IQ-enhanced people on the planet have been able to clean cars without excruciatingly detailed instructions? It’s almost like Scientology didn’t make them smarter or more able.

    • Scott H


    • Graham

      Well I was going to print off a copy and put it on my garage wall. Until I noticed “ALL RIGHTS RESERVED”. Now I just don’t know what to do.

    • I love this guy. For real. He’s got the best tips.

    • Ha Ha – Copyright –

  • DoveAlexa

    Here, Here! I’m all for real numbers, even if they can sometimes be irrational. Much better than those imaginary numbers; you ask them to square with you and they just get all negative.

    • That’s some deep math humor.

    • jazzlover

      LOL. All scientology numbers are the square root of -1.

    • kemist

      I’m for complex numbers, especially in Fourier transform contexts.

      I’m weird like that.

    • 🙂

      • kemist

        These guys actually like each other :

  • Jimmy3

    Since we’re sharing hate today, let me add wasps to the list. I really fucking hate wasps.

    • Graham

      Yeah? Well I hate people who hate wasps. Waddya say to that?

      • Jimmy3

        I say stop it. Stop hating me. That doesn’t feel good.

        • Graham

          OK. Sorry. I was just feeling a little waspish.

    • Kestrel

      Not all white Anglo-Saxon Protestants are bad.

      • Graham

        Oops. replied to wrong person!

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Did they fly in your beer?

      • Jimmy3

        A whole nest just moved in next door. You gotta walk by real fast before they look down on you.

        • Eivol Ekdal

          I had a nest in my attic. Nearly killed myself coming down the ladder when I found them, or they found me. I came down the ladder without touching a step.

          • Jimmy3

            See. The only way to survive a wasp encounter is to become an action movie star.

            • Graham

              Like Tom Cruise? He does all his own stunts you know.

            • Jimmy3

              Didn’t know that.

            • Graham

              It’s really true. In his next film he’s going to jump out of an aeroplane dressed like a tiny angel. They’re already calling him Cupid Stunt. At least I think that’s what they were calling him.

            • Draco

              You made me LOL for realz and nearly choke on the pear I am munching!

            • Eivol Ekdal

              Or one of The Three Stooges.

        • Mockingbird

          Nest !? That’s like when Mel Gibson said he hoped his ex girlfriend got “raped by a pack of n#$_@$ !”

          Not cool !

          • Jimmy3

            No. That’s actually not anything like that at all.

            • Mockingbird

              Jimmy people don’t live in nests ! They’re human beings !

            • Mockingbird

              Please be kind to protestants .

        • Qbird

          Oh hey. We got one going right now too, right by the walk-in… fun for all… we’re in & out of there all shift long. Will probably resort to chemical attack on the nest… from a goodly distance.

          :::also, I have never been stung by a bee or a wasp, like, ever:::

          • Jimmy3

            They’re dormant at night.

    • Observer


      • Breed some rat-wasps to trigger more phobias.

    • Mockingbird

      What did White Anglo Saxon Protestants ever do to you !!!?

    • aquaclara

      I was going to say synchronized swimmers. But that would be mean since I don’t really know any.

      • Jimmy3

        If you know one, you know them all. They’re all the same.

  • Mockingbird

    My lucky day, I got called “you people” ! That’s a good one !

    Is that a racial remark !?

    • Jimmy3

      For you people it is.

      • Mockingbird

        WOW ! Now I will be told mentioning it is reverse racism ! Despite mountains of evidence reverse racism doesn’t exist ! Orwell and Hubbard would be proud !

  • Kim O’Brien

    I’m inviting a gaggle of gay Muslim’s to Howdy Con ….. resistance is futile

  • J. Swift

    Here are outpoints for OSA and lurking Scientologists to consider: ABLE subsidies to keep failing Narconons open violate LRH’s policy to never reward a down statistic. Why is money donated by Scientologists keeping insolvent businesses open? Does “PR” excuse rewarding downstats?

    • chukicita

      Hm. The same principle could apply to the endless legal costs and settlements the IAS “War Chest” keeps propping up.

      • J. Swift

        Mat Pesch told me when I interviewed him that the Freewinds has been a money loser from day one. The Cult has to keep it open as a PR maritime symbol of LRH’s Apollo. Launched in 1968 as the Boheme, the 48 year old Freewinds is showing its age. Look at the hull plates on the bow. One would think instead of propping up insolvent Narconons the Cult would purchase a new boat instead. The Freewinds is as wrinkled as COB:

        • Qbird

          looking at the bow. This is the pointy end.
          The stern is the square end. [usually]

        • I wonder if there are any regulations that the Freewinds is grandfathered on, but a newer vessel wouldn’t be able to dodge (even with a Panamanian registry)?

          • Robert Eckert

            I think if the Freewinds ever entered a US port it would not be allowed to sail again.

        • chukicita

          But you only get cancer from not breathing in ENOUGH asbestos, right?

          • Mockingbird

            Can I borrow a carton of Kool filter kings please ? I hate to smoke but my “doctor” prescribed them to ward off cancer !

        • OOkpik

          It looks like a poorly applied vinyl wrap. Wouldn’t put it past them!

          • I have seen this boat. It’s totally wrinkled.

    • Mockingbird

      If you look at Hubbard’s rule on never taking on a project that can’t support itself financially then the IAS and ideal Orgs both violate exchange. They both call for straight donations which Hubbard called criminal exchange.

      Almost all Scientology programs and organizations rely on criminal exchange to boost them up, or they would be insolvent.

      What happened to Scientology ‘s miraculous management technology ?

      • J. Swift

        Exactly Mockingbird. The sale of IAS statuses are off policy because the IAS is taking something for nothing. As the Commodore himself wrote:

        First consider a group which takes in money but does not deliver anything in exchange. This is called rip-off. It is the “exchange” condition of robbers, tax men, governments and other criminal elements.

        Even with ABLE kicking in $1.8 million plus another $120,000 from another Scn entity, Narconon Arrowhead still lost $310,000 in 2014. The numbers tell the real story: The word about the Narconon scam is getting out to the world. Not only is Narconon a medically dangerous scam but it is a surreptitious Scientology recruiting vehicle.

        • Mockingbird

          Thanks. Do you believe that only Flag makes a profit from traditional services now ? I have heard that for a couple years and am curious.

          • J. Swift

            My opinion is that Flag is the only moneymaking Org for traditional services. CCI might do okay as it has snob appeal. In my experience, many Scientologists here in Los Angeles want to be CCI publics for status reasons. The joke out here is that if you become downstat then CCI will demote you to PAC Base. Imagine the humiliation of being a loser pc at PAC Base because CCI doesn’t want you around the beautiful people. At that point, you might as get in your 1988 Ford Aerostar minivan with the bad tires and broken headlight and drive over to that dumpy Org the Cult has in Van Nuys and call it a day. You have no social status — and what are you in Scientology without status? Status also explains why Scientologists go to Flag to see and be seen. Flag also boasts that it has the world’s best technical delivery. This is basically saying that all other Orgs are inferior and suck. And of course, the ultimate status is doing OTVIII on the ship.

            Aaron Smith-Levin discussed in an interview with me how Flag Tours come into Los Angeles and compete with Los Angeles and the other SoCal Orgs for pc’s and there is not much the SoCal orgs can do. Here in SoCal, people are not clamoring for Scientology and there is a massive overcapacity of Orgs:

            Church of Scientology of Los Angeles — the merged LA Day and Foundation
            Celebrity Centre Int’l
            Church of Scientology of Inglewood
            Pasadena Ideal Org
            Church of Scientology Van Nuys
            Orange County Ideal Org
            San Diego Org
            Future SFV Org

            Missions — some of these may be closed:
            Los Feliz Mission
            Mission of Ventura
            Mission of Anaheim
            Mission of Burbank
            Mission of West Valley in Chatsworth
            Mission of Lake Forest in South OC
            Mission in Foothills (Montrose)
            Mission in Moorpark
            Mission of Sherman Oaks
            Mission of Sunland

            • Mockingbird

              I think most missions now are just a short con. I heard people who complete clear are pressured to either finish the bridge full time with a massive donation, join staff, join the SO or set up a mission. For whales once their bridge is paid off buying mission starter packs is the easiest option.

              And they get to do this whole reg cycle every time they complete a major service. Each OT level, each course etc. they get routed to a reg and if they don’t want to get sent to ethics for endless headaches they cough up the dough.

              Some whales set up two or three missions to stay in good standing. Miscavige gets the tens of thousands of dollars to set up a mission and he gets it over and over. Now the ideal org program is like that mission program on steroids.

              Whales can skip everything else and just donate a few million dollars every few months to stay in good standing. An expensive hobby for most people.

              I think most missions now are flops and can’t get anyone in thanks to certain blogs online that report some less than flattering stories about Scientology.

            • Techie

              The situation is made worse by the fact that there is no Briefing Course, so no actual reason to have an ASHO. And almost everybody is just doing the Survival Rundown anyway. So you have three huge buildings on the same block all trying to grab the same public for the same services. Walking down L Ron Hubbard Way must feel like being a seal in Hudson Bay with a few dozen hungry polar bears on the hunt. Flag used to rake in two or three $million a week but I doubt if they can keep the staff in toilet paper these days.

  • Hey, the job’s still open at $cientology Media. I sent Jeff Alexandre a link of my anti-cult articles at The Morton Report but he apparently didn’t read it before calling me just now. So busy, those Sea Ogres! I talked to him and learned that they need someone to train people to write speeches for all the events they have during the year. Jeff currently writes some of the speeches, he said. Hey, he was willing to pay $50 an hour… I explained that his big (I use the term loosely) boss probably wouldn’t like him hiring me because I used to write for Freedom magazine among other things, dated Mary Sue Hubbard’s best friend for a while, and wrote a bunch of articles for my friend Andrew Morton’s site, you know the guy who wrote the book on Tom Cruise, and that I was one of the most ardent critics of $cientology on the planet and look forward to its destruction. In closing, I asked him to tell Dave Miscavige hello and that I hope he goes to prison soon. If you’re looking for a swell (!) gig and can stand commuting to that Sooper-Powered revamped building that used to be KCET, give ole Jeff a call at 323-210-1700 and tell him Skip sent ya.

    • Qbird

      Did he comment on your “most ardent critic” fact, Skip?

      • Yeah, after I told him my “stats” I said, “So I’m probably not the best person for the job.” And he said, “Yeah, apparently not.” That’s when I wished Lil Davey his inevitable prison and hung up. Ole Jeff will probably have to have a sec check for pulling in and pursuing an SP (SP, get it?) like me, poor bastard. But that’s $cientology!

        • Qbird

          U S.P. — me S.P. IRL 2. yup, got it… wee bee natural born SP’s.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      WHAT!!? You passed on a prime opportunity to be schooled in the ShermanSpeak method of speech writing and get paid for it!!?

      I’m convinced that, as Sherman got away with more and more in the way of writing truly execrable speeches for lil davey (who, apparently, thought they were just wunnerful;), he finally just decided to take it all the way over the top and mock his patron and his $cn audience by seeing just how brutally he could torture the English language and still get away with it!

      Or perhaps he just started out bad and, through sheer laziness, just got gradually worse because no one ever lit into him for giving them such embarrassing words to speak.

      However that came to pass, I’m just totally entertained whenever a new Sherman event speech comes out as I sit reading it on the Porch of my Infirmity 😉

      I’m going to give Jeff a call and see if I can land the job and tele-commute to work! $50 an hour to hone my ShermanSpeak satirical voice sounds like cult money well spent to me!

      • I seriously hope someone calls and asks for Dan Sherman to see if he’s still there.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          What!!? Are you implying that $cn could have sacked my favorite speech writer of all time!!?

          Please, tell me it ain’t so!

          Seriously, the only laughs that come out of the mouths of official $cn spokesminions, writers and ‘creative’ folks is that which is brought to us courtesy of the immortal Sherman…may the ink in his pen and the lead in his pencil never run out!

          • Well, something’s going on. Jeff – who was quite nice and terribly persistent, bless his deluded little heart – spoke of training a whole bunch of people to write scripts and things. I’ve taught probably 5000 people one on one to write scripts over the years, and maybe 100,000 or more via books and courses, so I’m a good choice, but I never do well when the source material is bullshit, so I had to bow out. You need to call over there and say “Where’s Danny?!” Do it now.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              I’ll do it right now and see if I get any info.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Just gave them a call at the number you provided and the receptionist put me on hold to wait to speak to Jeff. They left me hanging for too long, so I hung up, but not before listening to the specially composed $cn ‘on hold’ music, which was quite the treat!

              I fear for the career of the immortal Dan Sherman, speechwriter and biographer extraordinaire. I’m sure lil davey would have never caught on by himself to how truly horrible his speeches were, and lord knows everyone around him is too frightened to say anything, but we’ve been making tons of fun of him for quite some time now, so he may very well have caught wind of the fact that he was being ridiculed rather unmercifully. And, as we all know, there are very few things that small, insecure men hate more than to be made a laughing stock of.

            • Glad you called. Probably, they’re getting a lot of calls, since I’m nobly providing the number to people who might want a job. 🙂 Around the time Danny Boy started that job, our mutual friend Trevor Meldal-Johnsen, a novelist of greater success than Dan, was working on those “Ron” books, too. Trevor was an old OT7 I believe. He died in the shower of a heart attack, in his 50s. I have a feeling writing Ronlies wears on a person. So I have a feeling Danny Boy is ill or finally got fed up and walked. But it’s obvious they are desperate. Jeff kept calling me back because (I’m pretty sure) the minute anyone heard $cientology they dropped it like crazy. The cult’s name is total mud with the public (thank you critics, Tony, Going Clear). Then poor Jeff had to find out that Help Me, ObiSkip You’re Our Only Hope! was SP! Ah, life.

    • Techie

      Interesting and deliciously ironic, Skip, but how is it that they need script writers for events at SMP??? In my time at Gold all the script writing for the speeches was done by Danny Sherman and the scripts for the event videos were done by folks like Diana Hubbard and a few others. What “events” are being shot at SMP??? Curioser and curioser. Maybe when they get the LRH Hall done they will do all the “big” events there and do all the production in LA at SMP. Then Dave will never have to go back to the Int Base at all and they can open it for tours to make some $$. Then Dave can get a big easy chair like some televangelist and just spout Shermanspeak 24/7 at the SMP for uplink to a satellite channel with a few “big” events at LRH Hall to spice it up four times a year. The all Dave all the time channel on DirecTV, checks and money orders welcome. I happen to know for a fact that there are hundreds of hours of really well recorded six microphone audience reaction tracks that could be mixed in to make it sound like there is somebody listening. Everything from nervous chuckles to the rousing “hip hip hurray” for minutes on end.

      • Graham

        “All Dave All the Time” *shudder*

      • Wish I could answer your questions. Feel free to call Jeff and inquire. I’m thinking Danny Boy Sherman has flown the coop.

      • MarcabExpat

        I am really, vastly amused by the idea of Lil’ Dave having his own televangelist hour (which, because it’s him, would be three hours minimum). The only thing is, Shelly’s not there to sit quietly by, nodding and saying “that’s right” and “thanks to Ron” at soothing regular intervals.

        I guess he can just get a steely-eyed Sea Org lady to do it, but that feels so CBN, y’know?

      • J. Swift

        Then Dave can get a big easy chair like some televangelist and just spout Shermanspeak 24/7 at the SMP for uplink to a satellite channel with a few “big” events at LRH Hall to spice it up four times a year.

        • Techie

          I was thinking of good old Dr. Gene Scott When I used to set up the big C-band satellite dishes (one for LRH, one for Dave) a common chore was to find all the satellites and program the coordinates into the remote control. One of the satellites was Gene Scott’s home channel and it was easy to identify – the old geezer ranting on in his easy chair with a room full of yes-men hollering amen and praise the lord. One of his favorite tricks was to cut the video feed and put on a loop of buggies with trotting show horses – then Gene’s gravelly voice would come on saying “You won’t see another minute of my ministry until $20,000 in pledges rolls in.” A perfect gig for Dave in his dotage. No need for any pesky clears or OTs bugging him about their nonexistent super powers. Just pure Shermanspeak from the Front Porch of Eternity out, and pure tax-free cash hard currency donations in. Cut out the middlemen and all those CI true believers.

    • maybe call him early on a Thursday?

    • Jimmy3

      Fly is into those sexy lady bits… And those sexy man bits too oooo ooohhhh

      • flyonthewall

        Jimmy, I have a serious question for you. *clears throat* Are you afraid to love a man?

        • Jimmy3

          No. I’m afraid of what Fly Lady will do when she reads our texts.

          • flyonthewall

            maybe she will just have an unfortunate accident? You can cook right?

            • gtsix

              A swatting is coming for you. Bad fly.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Oooh, I’m telling!

            • flyonthewall


            • Fly Lady

              hey, you don’t have to kill me. I can tell that you two are really in love. I’m secure enough to step aside and let you two see what happens.

            • flyonthewall

              thank u

          • Fly Lady

            oh, I read your texts.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      What does it say that my best friend Mikie and I know all the words to at least 6 Flight of the Conchords songs?

      • That you’re cool.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          I hoped you would say that! This one’s a bit over-played but it’s still our favourite.

          • “You’re so beautiful like a tree or a high class prostitute”

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Beautiful 😀

            • 9001

              Bret wrote some of the music for the Muppets movie too 🙂

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              I’m so glad you posted this! Great fun 🙂

              (PS. Hello!)

            • 9001

              Hello Andrea and good morning! I’m glad you enjoyed 🙂

      • TheMirrorThetan

        This is my favourite song of theirs. The whole episode is great.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Haha, yes! Genius 😀

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Some cool new video and an article from Mercury News about the purchase of Holy City by the Duggans. I’m sorry if this has already been posted.

    • This could become a real cool Media bait, as long as they keep writing about the Scio connection.

    • OOkpik

      Perhaps a deal has already been struck that if the Duggans dedicate the property to Scientology, Scientology will disappear another pesky Duggan son or two.

  • Outlook

    I can see how Chris Shelton has totally missed Douglas E. Cowan’s point of view.
    I actually don’t see the difference between a religious believer and an atheist believer. Both of them believe ‘something’ (god or godless)
    Let me put it in this way:an atheist is only an atheist when invited to participate in religion or religious debates.It doesn’t matter if a religion is a con or not!
    In another words….Lacking any religious exposure, pressure, dogma, policy, law, social expectations or customs an atheist is not even an atheist but just a person and has nothing to justify. It is the default state!
    In a world without meat eaters everyone is a vegetarian, it is the default state But again…Vegetarians
    are defined by their desire not to eat meat or meat products.
    Anti-scientologists exist only because Scientology exist! But both of them have to be grateful to Ron Hubbard for their acquired viewpoints! And what is a viewpoint if not “existence” itself?
    Actually Douglas E. Cowan is much a deeper thinker than Chris Shelton.

    LRH would agree with me.

    • “LRH would agree with me.”

      • Outlook

        Thank you.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          You’re very welcome.

        • JaxNGold

          LOL. You clearly missed Nat’s point. She’s saying LRH would agree with your nonsense, not that she does.

    • Juicer77


    • nottrue

      Very interesting…

    • flyonthewall

      see most people just have thoughts like this while on drugs but you’re like this all the time huh? How’s that working out for you?

    • 0tessa

      You forgot to add: “This is true.”

      • OOkpik

        and ML

    • Tony Ortega

      That was Marcotai-tanic!

      • Kim O’Brien

        is this the same guy from way back in the day …who tried to levitate on his bathroom floor ?

        • JaxNGold

          LOL! I tried that once. My husband said “I think you’ve had enough to drink tonight, honey”.


      • JaxNGold


        Love how Tony’s getting a few laughs from this fool.

    • JaxNGold

      I should be grateful to Hubbard because he was a vicious, lying conman who created one of the greatest religious scams in history? Well, that’s a new one.

    • flyonthewall

      According to this ESMB thread you’re not really a scientologist but just a troll and/or mentally ill. What’s your take on this? f5

    • kemist


      So you’re the person I should invite to show my collection of non-existing stamps.

    • April

      Atheism is as much a belief/religion as the off button is a channel on the television.

      • Graham

        As a non-stamp-collector I approve this message.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Pete Griffiths has just posted this gem from someone called Ben Bay on Facebook:

    “I visited the Church of Scientology and took their 200-question personality test! #blessed #loveyoutoo”

    You are quite cold blooded and heartless. You see no real reasons to live.


    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Haha, I really like Ben’s friends.

      “Some of those things aren’t true…”
      “Spot on you creep!”
      “Highly recommend trying those categories as lotto or bingo numbers!”
      “This is the worst patriarchal blessing i have ever seen”


    • Jimmy3

      “You are quite cold blooded and heartless. Your complete inability to project yourself into another persons place or situation and thus better understand that person causes a great deal of difficulty for you in your associations with people in your life. You place too much importance on yourself and opinions to be able to be considerate to others.

      We are proud to offer you an exclusive invitation to the COB RTC training program!'”

    • Graham

      You sure this reading was for Ben Bay? Sounds more like Slappy Miscavige to me. Critical.. lash out verbally… cold blooded and heartless… you place too much importance on yourself… extremely unstable in character. It all fits!

    • madame duran

      This reads like a horoscope for Scientologists where every single star and planet in the galaxy sees you as a putz. The Universe is against you.

      • Observer

        Literally loled

        • madame duran

          I was giggling when I was typing that up!
          But to be serious for a moment…the start of every Scientologist’s journey begins with a VERY DETAILED and DIRE diagnosis* but by the time s/he progresses to the higher levels of “The Bridge”, there’s no equally descriptive, positive evaluation for their new, improved self. The only measurements given amount to claims of “You are now Clear/OT”, “You have a floating needle”, “You are ____ on the Tone Scale”, or “You are a humanitarian for donating thousands of dollars to Scientology”. No report on personal traits at all. No objective or quantitative assessment of the alleged superpowers gained. Just a self-generated, euphoric “success story” that does nothing more than to subtly reinforce one’s personal bias (it’s hard to disagree with yourself!). Actually, that’s a question I’d like to pose for Scientologists: do they notice how evaluations switch from being detailed at the beginning to being vague as one ascends higher within Scientology? From (supposedly) objective to subjective?

          *I’m aware the initial diagnosis is pure bollocks (everyone who does the personality/stress test gets negative results). I view astrology as bogus too but at least each zodiac sign has a balance of personal strengths and weaknesses which comes across as more reasonable.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Especially when teegeeack is in retrograde.

      • Robert Eckert
    • Observer

      Lashing out mentally would seem rather ineffective.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Scientology has a cure for mental lashing 🙂

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Really, many people truly see themselves this way?

  • Mockingbird

    When I think about an overview of how the whole Scientology criminal enterprise works the bombastic, absurd sesquipedalian loquaciousness used by Dan Sherman and David Miscavige is entirely appropriate in its double speak and word salad. It uses a whole mountain of bullshit to say very little substance. Just like Hubbard and Scientology itself.

    It’s a long, overly complex con with thousands and thousands of parts and millions of words and contradictions to confuse you into helplessness and submission then a route to seem organized and take your money, your mind, your labor, your loyalty and finally your life.

    Hubbard said squirrels get nowhere as if they are frantically running on a hamster wheel to oblivion, but honestly that’s all he ever offered himself.

    Sesquipedalian: A long word, or characterized by the use of long words. From the Latin roots meaning “a foot and a half long.” Loquaciousness: That would be garrulousness, verboseness, effusiveness.

  • Mockingbird

    Does this fit Scientology to you ?

    “If a doctrine is not unintelligible, it has to be vague; and if neither unintelligible nor vague, it has to be unverifiable.”
    ― Eric Hoffer, The True Believer: Thoughts on the Nature of Mass Movements

    • 0tessa

      And if it is not unverifiable, it has to be unbelievable.

    • According to scientific method of verifying evidence. If we can’t reproduce Toni Ortega as an experiment around the globe, he doesn’t exist!

      • Mockingbird

        But Tony Ortega does show up around the world !

        • Yes but not at the same time. It’s more like Schroders Cat!

          • Mockingbird

            I hope he’s alive !

      • kemist

        If you believe the Raelians, if you give them some suitable genetic material, that can be arranged.

  • flyonthewall

    My friend, yes I do too have friends, is in DC on vacation and saw the Discovery Shuttle I.R.L.! So jealous. f5

    • Todd Tomorrow


    • Graham


    • ReallyMGM

      Seriously OT: Fly, it might be closer for you to visit. The US Space and Rocket Center is in Huntsville AL. INCREDIBLE to see a space shuttle mounted on a rocket booster (i think that is what it is) right on the side of the highway! There is so much to do there other than the shuttle. My husband rarely went to dog shows with me (he hated them) but Huntsville was my husband’s favorite show to go to ever. If there is a younger Fly, you might consider Space Camp. It is highly rated.

      • flyonthewall

        cool thnx for the tip Really

    • So it didn’t blew up after all. I see!

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • That was very uplifting!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        It Is. My car plates are 747SP. It broke several world records for decades. Faster, higher, farther..My Gramps was a 747 pilot. He loved this plane the best. Flew it from the US to New Zealand several times.

        • I have been working in the airport and standing under one of these. That is really a WTF moment he he

          • Todd Tomorrow

            What do you do if you don’t mind me asking?

            • Right now i am hacking one of Tony Ortega Cat’s to find out what he has in the fridge!
              No!… i have part time job working as handyman or something!
              Most of my time, i use building up my Online Emperium 🙂

    • TheMirrorThetan

      I live near my airport, and It still amazes me how things so huge and heavy can take off and stay up in the air, most of the time, anyway.

  • nottrue

    You Tube only. Christian and Scientologist.You need to be ready with some good questions when you confront a scientologist.She wasn’t

    • Cognitive Eruption! – Hurl!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Ah ha ha! What a tool.

    • Qbird

      uh-oh… I canna see this vid, nottrue.

    • Graham

      “This video has been removed by the user” 🙁

  • What turns it on will turn it off. -LRH

  • Susan B.

    Hi Bunker Folks! I’m finally on my sabbatical from work. 2 mos paid leave after having worked there for 13 years. I’m way behind on reading the daily articles here and I’ve missed the humor. I have to say that it has been good to stop compulsively checking every day for news on $ciontology. That’s how it was for me, strangely compulsive. Can you guess what’s replaced the compulsion for surfing for news of the (too) slow downfall of the cult? Surfing for news on the downfall of the Yacking Yam aka the Orange Menace! So I’ll check in every now and then and say hi. I’m finally finishing reading ‘I Am Malala’ by Malala Yousafzai, a book which could possibly help anyone that doesn’t get that all Muslims are not extremists. I say that b/c of the exchanges here from earlier today about Islam.

    I’m afraid the pic is sideways but this is Pogo, a mini doxie pulled out of the Monterey, CA shelter that I foster cared for two weeks in July. He stole my heart, almost ate my cat and killed one mouse. I was totally blown away by his mousing abilties. He pointed out to me that mice are living in my stove and they’re having some sort of party or something in the fireplace. This 10 lb. guy was fierce. He stood up to my 100 lb. Bella when she tried to give him the business. He scared the bejesus out of my cat and me when he tried to eat her. I stuck my hand in the middle of the encounter and poor Bubby chomped down on my left index with all of her strength. Me a cat owner all my life who’s never been bitten that badly before waited too long to go to the ER and I ended up on some nasty antibiotic pills and antibiotic IVs three days in a row.

    Well it’s nice to be off work and slow down a little. It wasn’t until I was off the first week that I really saw how dreadfully soul numbing my job is. I’m getting help to make changes in my life. I feel like I can breathe a little better!

    Ciao for now!

    • If i ever going to have a dog, it will be a weiner dog like this

      • Susan B.

        I really like the red ones. When I was a kid a neighbor family had a black and tan little guy named Buffo. He really really liked me. When he came over to greet me he would wiggle madly and pee on my feet and ankles. Bladder problem? Just really really happy to see me?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Thanks for fostering! Takes a big heart. My house is full of failed foster attempts.

      • Susan B.

        You have a greyhound, right?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          yes, three currently.

          • Susan B.


            (Daisy, I wrote a reply to you here yesterday and accidentally deleted it before hitting send. Now I don’t see your post any more. Just wanted to tell you has rescue groups that need foster volunteers.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I work with Greyhound rescue group in my area. I’ve had over 23 in my lifetime and in my mid-forties. They always send me the most damaged dogs from the track but once they hook up with the other hound’s they tend to be just fine. As I mentioned the three I currently have started out as fosters. Thanks for being a foster dog person!

    • daisy

      Thank you for fostering. I wish I could . No Humane society in my area. I love animal lover*s .Pogo is adorable and really rocking that leash.

      • Susan B.

        Do you mean you can’t because of lack of opportunities to foster? Have you tried looking into fostering for breed-specific rescue groups? They typically rely on
        volunteer fosters. Don’t know where you are located but you might find a rescue group that has all of their available dogs in foster homes. Here in CA there’s quite a number of rescues like that both breed specific and all breeds/mixes. That’s how Doggie Protective Services works here in CA. That’s the one I work with. Check out the website to find rescues near you.

  • beauty for ashes

    I think this is my favorite series by Chris Shelton. Some of the contributors to the book are kooks too. So as kind as Chris is, there’s kind of no escaping the inevitable snark. He also seems like he is having fun. extremely well researched by Chris, and logic is very thorough. Needs more kittens tho!

    • Kitten? F5

      • daisy

        Which is real , the fingers or the kitteh ? I didn’t know they came in extra small petite sizes.

        • it’s shooped… and he got dirty nails

      • beauty for ashes

        AWWWWW! thanks Dice! I will take it everywhere.

  • Off topic. Message to Fly. Suicide Squad was watchable. Harley Quinn was my fave character, mainly because she had slightly more dimensions/depth. Almost Michael Bay movie, but better.

  • I used to be in contact online with an Irish socialist who went by the name “Jon Anderson” on Facebook, whom I talked to a lot about Scientology over the years (comparing it with some of the cultish organisations which crop up on the far Left like the Spartacist League). He had also written quite a lot about Catholic history. I haven’t spoken to him in over a year but my first reaction was that this might be the same guy, even though I’m not sure this is his writing style.

    • Scientologist are “far Right” the further up they are. imho

      • kemist

        They may be so far right they reach the left somehow.

        • on both sides you will find extremes of fascism, so yeah!

    • jazzlover

      I still think it’s this guy

      • No, not enough references to cosmic vibrations or his telepathic dog.

        • jazzlover

          Would you believe it if he set Dianetics to music? 😉

          Nu somme du soleil

          • Robert Eckert

            you probably meant “nous sommes”: what you wrote translates “naked total from the sun”

            • jazzlover

              You’re right 🙂 I was too lazy to look it up. Spanish was the language I studied in school.

  • Jimmy3

    O/T: Does anyone have any information on this cult? Might be a Scientology connection with the oysters/clams. I don’t know.

    • Fly Lady

      I always thought that song was about STD’s…

      • Jimmy3

        Maybe they are linked to the Mastersons

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I think they sucked.

      • jazzlover

        They did. From Long Island. Got much more attention than they deserved. I saw them at their home base (My Father’s Place) a coupla times when they were still called Soft White Underbelly. Ughhhhhhhhh. They were like the Judas Priest of non-heavy metal.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Your dad ran a club, eh? Sweet…

          • jazzlover
            • Todd Tomorrow

              I can’t say I’ve heard of any of the upcoming acts but the history is colorful. I once drank tons of Irish Coffee. Wired drunk I was.

            • jazzlover

              Me too. It made for an interesting next morning in the shower.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              You’ve lost me. Care to elaborate?

            • jazzlover

              Barfing my brains out 🙂

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I’ve never been a vomit guy. So many times I’ve wanted to, to try and be better the next day but to no avail. We got some Seconal in Mexico one time and all five of my friend’s barfed except me. I was actually worried I was going to quit breathing.

    • Observer

      They liked Japanese monsters

      • Jimmy3

        L Ron Hubbard invented Japan

    • Fucking bivalves.

  • flyonthewall

    Aeger! Where you at!!?? I got that thing. You know the one. Hit me up

    • Jimmy3

      ^^^ linked to a Masterson. He got that thing

  • MaxSpaceman

    O|T: Clamwater, FL.

    Was eyeballing a google search > “map San Bernadino fires” > Los Angeles Times

    Have family and friends in that area and on through to Palm Springs. When nearly browsing off the page, this Ad. caught my attention:

    Funny how they would be advertising their beach resorts in the Los Angeles Times, with amazing beaches from Santa Barbara down to San Diego.

    But here’s their pitch.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I heard an Ad for Clearwater today on NPR. and I can’t live farther away, Thought that was odd. The cult has to danpen one’s enthusiasm about visiting. I’d end up arrested quicker than a snitch turning states evidence! Can’t go near the clams anymore.

  • daisy

    Why so many Islam trolls ? Another bunkerite too.

    • MaxSpaceman

      How many hours ago? ( to help navigate to the area. or post a link to the start of those comments if you knows how, that’d be the joint 🙂

      • daisy

        Go to oldest , It is by Stay Puft, I think is the avatar as well the entertaining nut job known as EO.

    • Jimmy3

      They do it just to get your daisies in a bunch.

      • daisy

        Then they should stop. I quit interacting days ago. They are just silly. I blame the orange ball sack.

        • Liberated

          Orange ball sack—I like it.
          I need to laugh.

        • Mockingbird

          Orange ball sack ? Aka ginger Hitler ? Cinnamon racist ?

          • daisy

            I refuse to say his name as I agree with John Oliver*s assessment that he has a shattering orgasm every time someone says it. MB do not engage with Stay Puft or EO tomorrow , at this point they are trolls.

            • Mockingbird

              Geez, what’s going on around here ? Mr Frump Rump hopefully will get a jacket that ties in the back.

              I honestly don’t see what trolls can do around here. I looked at Once Born’s blog and feel there are tens of thousands of critical posts about Scientology now.

              And hundreds are added every day. It’s a long way from when Gerry Armstrong, Arnie Lerma, Jon Atack and a few others were speaking out.

              The cult can’t possibly stop the avalanche of information. I thought I was doing well with a couple hundred critical posts. But there are so many more, I don’t see how Scientology can possibly ever put a dent in the opposition.

              Miscavige might irritate a few people, but he ain’t busting up all the critics or silencing us. So I don’t get his goal.

            • daisy

              I don’t think she is a scientology troll , she seems to be feeding on the rise she is getting out of us. She has been shown a no. of things that refute her stance and still spouts bigoted statements about Islam and Muslims. She has the right to post what she wants, but we are not obligated to give her an audience.

            • Mockingbird

              Hmm. Interesting. I don’t really enjoy trading comments with the anti Muslim crowd. I have blocked a lot of them on Facebook. They usually are also Trump supporters.

              It’s interesting how racism, anti Muslim sentiment, Trump support and a number of other beliefs keep appearing together in so many people. They usually have extremely racist posts, deny racism and say white people can’t be racist along with a series of other beliefs. They usually claim Trump didn’t say things he said recently live on TV .

              It’s really a modern rise of a fascist. It fits Eric Hoffer’s description exactly. But he dealt with Hitler and Hitler never got nuclear weapons.

              As for the right to post, this is a private blog. Tony can ban anyone he chooses. Free speech applies to government censorship, not private citizens on their own blogs.

    • noseinabk

      I honestly don’t think that Stay Puft was making as broad a statement as EO. EO appears to have taken the stand that we are nobody to her and are so hive minded that we will all be insulted when she posts her anti whatever crap.
      She lumps many people together in groups with a black or white thinking that I don’t care for. Then again, I didn’t take it quite so seriously until she trolled us by adding it to every post.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Talking about me?

        • noseinabk

          Yes. I was saying that Stay Puft looked to be raging against the abuse from isis rather than all Muslims as you do. He also never mentioned his intolerance of different races or gender inferiority.

          • daisy

            Please don’t engage with her, she is a troll and is enjoying annoying us.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Remember when you were called a troll, daisy… when apparently it wasn’t true. And now you engage in that behaviour yourself.

            • daisy

              I am breaking my own rule but LOL , people thought I was a troll. I had no idea. Now that is funny.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Ok… whatever… they only said it directly to you several times… when you were new to the Bunker.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I defended you then… because I find it a ridiculous accusation with pointless purpose… might have wasted my metaphorical breath, huh?

            • daisy

              Thank you for doing that , then , if I hadn’t thanked you. I didn’t know you did as I didn’t know people thought that. I thought they just thought I was an ass ( sometimes I am , so I didn’t feel upset ) Doesn’t change my mind about now. Sincerely good luck in your future.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Maybe it just might be a hint about my actual tolerant nature… rather than the ignorant spew that’s been ranted at me and about me based on a few opinions I felt commenting about in the first instance.
              Just a hint.
              And you did know… we had a conversation about it, it was all done at the same time over a couple of days. Perhaps you don’t remember, that’s fine… but don’t presume to know me if you can’t even remember that.

            • noseinabk

              I have no intention of ignoring her. We have kids of simular ages and have spoken many times over the past few years. No matter what she believes, she is a human being who perceives the world in a different way than I do yet we still have many things in common as mother’s and humans.

            • daisy

              Well that is okay you can talk to anyone one you want. I respect your position. I apologise if I have offended you.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Well.. you don’t read properly then… for my stance is precisely the same as Stay Puft. I don’t have an intolerance of races or gender either… that’s something else you have made up. I recognise facts about certain groups that people like you refuse to acknowledge because it might be seen as ‘mean’… but it doesn’t mean I don’t tolerate any particular group. I am the kind of person who treats everyone the same when I first meet them.
            But that’s a nuance you lot have failed to grasp with every topic, so it’s not surprising.

            • noseinabk

              “You lot” is the most ridiculous statement in this rant. You’ve no idea what I think about what you have posted since I have not communicated with you about it.
              To be clear, I do NOT care what you think about other groups or religions. I am only disgusted that you have decided to be Tia 2.0 and lump all of us together and troll to get a rise out of anyone you can.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I can read… which is why I commented on your post ‘talking about me’. I know there is much misinformation about what I actually said floating all over the comment section since this started… but, the one thing I will not tolerate is people thinking I began all this because I felt trollish and wanted to stir people up. No… it’s ongoing because I was abused for my thoughts specifically as a tactic to stop me from airing them again. I lump you all together purely because you all seem so intent that I should not have a platform here, and some not at all anywhere… that is indicative in your comment here too. I’m happy to discuss my views… but if you don’t want to talk to me… why talk about me in this manner? You aren’t going to get the truth about my views discussing them with others.

            • noseinabk

              Oh come on. You do not have a free for all platform here to keep up the same old tired arguments when all but a few were prepared to move on after the first few posts. Is that not what a troll does? Keep reminding the group of every slight so as to continue to dived a group.
              I spoke about you only because people said that Stay Puft was doing the same thing and I don’t see it that way.
              You are not a stupid woman and you know that you are stirring up trouble when you keep posting this crap on a blog that is about the abuses of COS.
              How many times over the years have you seen us beg people to stop talking politics or religion so that we wouldn’t end up where we are now?
              If you think that we all have a hive mind and all think alike, why bother?

            • EnthralledObserver

              My response to that would be that I never agreed with the requests to people to stop talking about any topic they wished to address. Yes, I witnessed those requests, but never agreed.. and was more than happy to ignore what didn’t interest me. Don’t know why people now can’t do the same with me, or anyone else.
              Kitteh and Caek is just as uninteresting (among other off-topic things) … and never once have I considered having the audacity to ask someone to stop posting them. Just skip.
              People seem to want to blame me for starting this bru-ha-ha for daring to comment… but maybe the actual problems lies with those who are incapable of just ignoring what they aren’t interested in.
              Yes, I do have a free for all platform… until Tony drops the ban-hammer. Who are Bunker commentators to define what is allowed or not?
              As I pointed out to another… maybe I’m not necessarily actually talking to fellow Bunker commentators… maybe my message is for other ‘readers’, like minded or not.

            • noseinabk

              Do what you want E. I see what you are doing by posting those kind of comments as trolling. I am not in the “in” group of commenters at the bunker who all email and talk outside of this group yet I have cried when the Headleys met the fund raising goal, when Karen lost her son, when Obs lost her pup, we all lost Howdy and Sherb lost her mom. I’ve also sought comfort here when I lost my pup and celebrated when I had my granddaughter.
              I’ve learned a lot from these people and found much compassion , empathy and understanding from people with a very diverse view. If you don’t see this blog that way and think that everyone needs to be awakened by your views, go for it.

            • noseinabk

              Badly edited.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Thank you… I will continue to say what I want.

              I once thought of most of those here as friends, no matter how distant, but after the venom I received so instantly I was disabused of that. Nobody needed to agree with me, but friends don’t treat each other as such. So, no… not any longer. And what value can you get from intolerant people who keep you chasing your own tail just to please them?
              Can’t be bothered. So now I just post as I choose… with no sensitivity to ‘what others think’ or keeping to the absurd rules or the expectation to follow the mob as they descend to attack for whatever silly reason that day.
              I’m not here for them.
              And they will learn to ignore me.

            • noseinabk

              Sorry that you feel the need to argue with every person here because 5 or 6 people argued with you or insulted you. I’ve posted unpopular opinions here before and about 50% of people got over it. The thing is, my opinions had to do with scientology and followers and did not include some personal agenda to prove that I was more enlightened than others .
              Sound familiar?
              Stop washing yourself in bad news story’s for a a bit.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I’m not arguing… I’m commenting. That’s all. 🙂
              Peace, noseinabk.

            • EnthralledObserver

              “The thing is, my opinions had to do with scientology and followers and did not include some personal agenda to prove that I was more enlightened than others .”

              I did not see this part before (you must have edited or something)…

              The thing is that “I” see correlation between $cientology and Islam… I feel they are relevant… and I feel it is important to point them out – that’s MY way of doing what I can from my little part of the world to give a different perspective and maybe someday someone might wrangle a solution to both problems by using the points I raise. No point being so rigid about these things… and this need to silence critics of Islam is not helping anything, anywhere or anyhow… nobody has to agree… people just need to be allowed to put it out there. Preferably graciously. You never know what can come of people’s ideas.

            • Qbird

              This was a fun link to check out, Nose. Uplifting really, Thanks 4 that.
              Also, I relate very much to what you said here, especially the “I care about many of the people” who comment regularly on this blog, including EO. EO & I began posting around the same time… that’s quite a few years now – it’s hard not to care… which is interesting.

              At any rate, I like you Noseinabk – just wanted to tell you that.
              I am with you here. 🙂

            • noseinabk

              Awww, thanks Q.
              I check the sunny skyz website almost daily. Balances out all the bad news we get bombarded with sometimes.

            • noseinabk

              Keep telling yourself that we don’t care about you. I care about you E. I care about many people on this blog that wouldn’t give me a second thought. I do not care ìf they think of me in the same way because I know that I have done what I could in my little part of the world to inform people about COS.

      • noseinabk

        Btw, my most impotent rage is more likely to be directed at people like this:
        More than any injustice done in the world I wish we could help kids who are abused and starving for food and affection.

      • daisy

        I am not sure I agree with your assessment of Stay Puft, but I truly hope you are right.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Mike St. Amand, whose signature is on the tax form, I helped train him years and years ago, he’s the DSA (OSA person on the spot) for Narconon Arrowhead. “Secretary” aka Department of Special Affairs (OSA on the ground) person.

  • JJ

    Listening to news from other room. Men in Syria chanting God is Great when they pull a not dead five year old boy from the rubble of a bombed out building. Yes and ‘The Good Lord was lookin out fer that thar famly in Beeinyurbonnet county when He dropped a tornado onto the town and demolished it killin’ forty seven other people. Whet ever gets ya through the day people, but why is it God is noted as the protagonist when someone lives through a disaster, while the disaster itself is…what an aberration? Sent by Satan, remotely created by the government, a product of an angry Mother Nature. Yes, God saved you from being killed by the force of nature He apparently did not have control over? I don’t know, do they sleep better?

    • daisy

      I am not sure why the angry tone of your post. If it gives them solace , why do you care ? It doesn’t seem to me they are hurting anybody. Many people that are devout help those in need. Who cares if it is service to their God. Condemning Christians is as bad as doing it to Muslims and Islam.

      • JJ

        Oh you know, anger covers fear and all that. The general uptick of unthinking, contentedly bigoted people expressing such endless bile and draconian solutions to our global problems that have taken over the political scene the world over it seems. In some places it is starting to look like Germany of the 1920’s. Economic uncertainty, immigrants ready in place to be blamed, reactionary right wing organizations finding more and more members. (Of all extremist groups no faith preference here). I see this as all sort of part and parcel.Or at least in the same block. The same people who thank god for saving their son sometimes pray God to kill some elses child. And on and on it goes. Yes, angry. Black and white thinking on my part. What are angry, insecure devoted people going to do to spin the world into it’s latest miasma of death and violence now?

        Not sure where “service to their God” came in from…? Lot’s of people help people in need who have no faith what so ever…?

        • daisy

          I agree that lots of people who don’t believe in God do good. I just meant that some people are motivated by their interpretation of what Christianity entails. There is extreme radical thinking certainly in any religion. I am tired of the fear mongering political atmosphere as well.

          • JJ

            Agreed. I am sorry for being a jerk today. I am just in a snarly mood daisy. I stood in the heat for an hour to get into the DMV only to be accused of stealing a pen and then have to pay 54 bucks for a ID card!

            • daisy

              You were not a jerk , just expressing a thought I didn’t agree with. What a horrible day . I have to mentally prepare myself for trips to the DMV and my renewal date is in the winter. I hope you have a better one tomorrow and thank goodness the weekend will be here.

            • JJ

              I think it must be a sign of mental issues on my part that I dressed up to get a pic at the DMV. Apparently, we don’t do that?… Still better than having to work there…Can’t imagine the stress.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Low IQ and brainwashed… they are almost in a trance, acting as one, rather than individuals.

      • Jimmy3

        And you are so damn individual and free-thinking with the hateful rhetoric you regurgitate. You’re certainly not repeating what you’ve heard other hate-mongers say, right? Hypocrite.

  • noseinabk

    I had to dig down a little to figure out what it is that I hate.
    I hate the so many are willing to take advantage of people to the detriment of those who could do much more and are in real need.

    chukicita a day ago
    I found it interesting that there was no breakdown of what exactly they needed $75K for, other than to achieve some kind of stat. Especially since their 2014 990 shows net assets/fund balance of nearly $800,000.
    Narc Louisiana is among the more solvent of the Narconons with an annual budget that includes more than $316,000 in licensing fees and food costs of more than $360,000 (for 40 on-site and off-site clients? I’d love a $7k/week food budget!).
    The 990 reports that they bring in between $3 million and $4 million a year for “services.”
    Top exec pulls in a six-figure salary (but works 80 hour weeks, evidently).

    Also, I hate that social standards do not allow me to show my appreciation for exceptionally good food as much as my granddaughter does.

    • Jimmy3

      Screw social standards, that looks like some amazing sketti.

      • daisy

        Needs red sauce.

        • noseinabk

          She scarfed down all the diced tomatoes first.

          • daisy

            I love babies, messy ones are my favorite.

      • noseinabk

        I remember wishing I could get away with doing that with a bowl of crab bisque.
        She gets away with tolerating her veggies for a few minutes, making appreciative eating noises over pasta and fruit dishes and, she gets to lick the bowl.

      • Qbird

        I love that photo, Nose’s grandbaby there, complete child-like abandon & joy.
        and food. gotta love food. I am addicted to it as a matter of fact.
        J3Xs. Hiya. OT trollin’ ~
        The wasp’s nest was done destroyed by the time I arrived for my shift. They’s gone.
        They will have to make their living somewhere else in these 1 million acres +
        471,942 hectares… plus more even. Lots of other places around for them.

        Holee cree-app, what a shift ~ not as bad as this, but close!
        hahaha, ya gotta laugh. ya just gotta.
        keeps a person from cryin’.

    • Kay

      Yay !! Basketti !!!!!! (that’s what my niece calls it)

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  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Here is a video posted Wednesday of the staff at the “Narconon Louisiana New Life Retreat” cleaning up after the flood. I wonder if they are really all staff or if patients are having to work too.

  • Lady Squash

    Thank you Chris for your amazing Deconstructing Scientology series. I’d like to start by making it clear that I am no fan of Scientology. That said, here is a question, I would like academics to address. How can you have a therapy that can help people sometimes and an organization that inevitably ends up abusing the same people it helps? Much attention is paid to the abuses of Scientology (rightfully so) but how to explain the “miracles”.
    This dichotomy is illustrated by John Brodie’s experience. “A starting quarterback for the San Francisco 49ers throughout the 1960s and early ’70s, John Brodie was one of the first celebrity promoters of Scientology. When a nagging arm injury was unresponsive to treatment, Brodie found unexpected relief after just two auditing sessions with the Church. The 1970 NFL MVP claimed his pain completely disappeared, and the experience left him fully dedicated to Scientology’s teachings. However, Brodie eventually grew disenchanted with the religion after some friends were harassed or expelled following a power struggle with the organization’s leadership. “ Jacob Davidson, Time Magazine
    Here is something I chew on sometimes: If Scientology helps people (and it appears it does sometimes), it’s a good thing. If it abuses people (which it clearly does), it’s a bad thing.

    • Mockingbird

      People recover from illnesses and injuries all the time. A person can pray and heal or take a placebo. No scientific validation has ever occurred for Scientology. It’s a fraud. You can believe in something that is false and have improvements occur.

      A fake psychic can tell someone they will win the lottery and it can occur. It doesn’t prove psychic powers.

    • Juicer77

      It’s a good question. The world we live in is not black-and-white. Taking some vitamins won’t hurt you, but taking megadoses over long periods of time will lead to physical damage. Praying about an illness is fine, but if you ignore any other help that’s available (blood transfusions, medication, psychotherapy for example) you’re ignoring some of the most effective resources. Faith can do a lot but it can’t replace three pints of blood.
      Many who have done introductory $cientology courses say they did get some benefit. For example, Chris Shelton says that the communications course did help overcome shyness and make him a much more effective speaker. Some people say they benefit from the Study Hat, perhaps because it helps them focus in a way their brain is naturally inclined. It’s pretty clear that Hubbard knew how to exploit need (“ruins”) as a hook to get people in. At this point the control mechanisms are mild. It’s later that the control and throught-stopping techniques are increasingly applied. Hope this makes sense. Still on my first 1/2 cup of coffee! 🙂

  • John Prince

    Is it really true that $cio is now begging for “donations” so they can finally broadcast SOMETHING from their fabulous new state-of-the-Art smp facilty ? How laughable is THIS ?? I would love to know how many People in the ENTIRE WORLD are willing to stand up and be counted as being “clear” these days.. (and how much they had to Pay to achieve this divine state of “clearness”) a Super-DOOPER-Fucking-Kickass-Wog XXVII who’s been infested with Body Thetans for more than 55 years (in this lifetime at least) I must say I’ve grown rather Fond of the cuddlely little fellows! We laugh it up all the time and I’m never feeling lonely..

    • Graham

      Yes, the sad losers have opened a state-of-the-art broadcast facility without [allegedly] having the funds to actually produce anything to broadcast from it.

      • John Prince

        Golly gee ..I wonder if they accept donations from (Super)Wogs and how much would I have to shell out to get a STUPIDICUS-ASSHOLICUS-UNBELIEVICUS Trophy?

        • Scream Nevermore

          At this point in time, I think a tenner should do it!

  • Lighthouse

    “A Brief History of Scientology” in the Jacobin has it pretty well summarised – can’t fault anything about it.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Hmm, Jon Anderson is the name of the lead singer of Yes, isn’t it? I saw those guys in concert here in Denver once, back in the 90’s, at the old convention hall downtown — Currigan Hall, I think it was called. It was a fantastic show, and that guy’s voice was so high even when he was speaking, I was amazed.

    I think that is a cool choice for a pen name. In general I would think, if someone spent a lot of time writing about Scientology from a critical perspective, and wanted to publish said writing, without the attendant bullshit of being in the sights of the crazy cult, using pen names would be a very simple way to do that. As long as you can keep your real identity and your pen name on a given blog entirely separate, that is. Not always so easy to do. I would say, don’t make it any harder than it has to be — not everyone is interested in getting credit under their real name, as much as they are interested in stopping the abuse and exploitation perpetrated by the evil cult known as scientology. That’s my take on it, anyway.