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Here’s how you can help make a difference in lives touched by Scientology

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[Tom DeVocht, in a scene from Going Clear]

The Underground Bunker has a pretty great record when it comes to helping people raise money.

Even before this place opened, over at the Village Voice, our readers came through in 2012 with an amazing display of generosity and helped Marc and Claire Headley raise about $40,000 in just a couple of days. The Headleys had spent their savings, borrowed from friends, sold an automobile and even a swing set so they could pay off attorney’s fees that the Church of Scientology was holding over their heads. (The church offered to forgive the debt if the Headleys would agree to spy on other ex-church members. Turning down that offer, the Headleys paid the money and then shared with us the letter from the church spelling out that offer.) After paying the church its fees, the Headleys put up a fundraising page and we publicized it. Soon, our readers helped make them whole, and we had established a precedent.

Since then, we’ve been happy to help people raise money. One of the most significant was the rapid collection for Phil and Willie Jones as they asked us to help them publicize their goal of putting up a billboard in Los Angeles to bring attention to Scientology’s policy of disconnection. And just last week, Fred Haseney asked us to help him get the word out about his fundraiser to pay for his attorney, Graham Berry, as he fights the church’s attempt to slap him with a restraining order because he photographs church activities in Los Angeles.

Now, we wanted to update you about two new fundraising campaigns we haven’t been asked to help with, but we wanted to make sure you knew about them anyway.

Last night, Tom DeVocht put up a fundraising page to pay for attorney’s fees in the fight he’s going through over custody of his infant daughter. Tom is probably best known for his star turn in Alex Gibney’s documentary Going Clear. DeVocht really steals the show several times as he recalls what it was like to work closely with Scientology leader David Miscavige. (He also has a significant appearance in Louis Theroux’s upcoming film, My Scientology Movie.)

But if you know Tom and follow him on Facebook, you’ve become aware of just how thrilled he is to be a father for the first time. He adores his daughter Ellie, and loves sharing her latest antics on video. And not everyone might be aware that Tom has gone through a difficult split with Ellie’s mother, and that Tom is fighting for custody. There’s much more from Tom at the page he’s set up. And while it’s not Scientology related, we want you to be aware of what Tom is going through, and we hope you can help him out.

The other fundraising campaign that we’d like to see succeed has been going on for several weeks. Victoria Britton, despite all the work she’s done in the courts and the media to bring attention to the 2007 death of her son, Kyle Brennan, needs help paying for a headstone to mark his grave.

As we did in April, we’ll quote Joe Childs from a Tampa Bay Times article, which does a good job summarizing quickly the background on Kyle’s death.

In 2006, Denise [Gentile, David Miscavige’s twin sister] started taking classes at Flag to become an auditor again. One of the people she audited during training was Scientologist Tom Brennan, a handyman who worked at her rentals. In February 2007, Brennan told Denise he was concerned about his son, Kyle, 20, who was visiting from Virginia. Kyle didn’t look good and had been seeing a psychiatrist, he told Denise. Scientologists believe psychiatry and psychotropic drugs are evil — like street drugs. Denise thought Kyle may have gotten hooked on street drugs. Brennan and Denise phoned Kyle’s mother and urged her to send him to Narconon, the drug treatment program affiliated with the church. Kyle’s mother refused. (All of this was later recounted in sworn testimony from Denise and Brennan.) Thomas Brennan locked Kyle’s antidepressant medication, Lexapro, in his car trunk. Brennan later found Kyle dead of a gunshot wound in his apartment. The first person Brennan called was Denise Gentile. Then he called 911.

Clearwater police ruled the death a suicide. Kyle’s mother, who is not a Scientologist, filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Gentiles, Brennan and Scientology’s Flag Service Organization. She alleged the Gentiles persuaded Brennan to take away Kyle’s medication, contributing to his death. The suit was dismissed in 2011, in part because Brennan said his son voluntarily turned over his medicine.

That lawsuit also resulted in a bizarre legal Catch-22 for Victoria’s attorney, Ken Dandar, who found himself being sued by Scientology simply because he was representing Victoria in court. At one point, Dandar was facing ruination in the form of a $1 million judgment. But that was later vacated by a higher court. It’s a long story and one we’ve covered extensively.

It’s stunning to think, after all that Victoria has been through, that she needs help getting a headstone for Kyle. We hope you can help her out — she needs only a little more than a thousand dollars to reach her goal. We’d love to see a patented Bunker bump to get that over the finish line quickly.

 
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Aussie taxpayer money funding Scientology schools

There’s a very interesting report from the Sydney Morning Herald today about Scientology’s front group Applied Scholastics, two suburban schools that use Scientology tech, and taxpayer money.

Journalist Eryk Bagshaw ran the numbers, and found that with what the schools are charging for tuition, on top of what they get in state funding, students at the Applied Scholastics schools receive far more per student than at many Australian public schools.

Naturally, the schools pulled out the “we’re secular and not part of the Church of Scientology” excuse, but you can bet that David Miscavige is boasting at events that the schools have figured out a way to double-dip the Australian taxpayer while Scientology continues its “expansion.”

 
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Short movie based on ‘Blown for Good’ gets festival

The “Brainwash Movie Festival” sounds pretty unique. Now in its 22nd year, the festival is held outdoors in Oakland, and the public is encouraged to “drive-in, bike-in, or walk-in” to catch the “truly independent” films that are shown.

On Saturday, July 30, one of those films will be Escape, produced by Karla Zamudio and directed by Rachael Meyers, which adapts some of the material from Marc Headley’s 2009 book, Blown for Good.

So hey, if you’re in Oakland, get on your fixie and pedal over.

 
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Mike Rinder on the Silver Mullet

We enjoyed Mike Rinder’s blog post today, not only for what it said about Dan Sherman, David Miscavige’s speechwriter, but also to see Mike recommend Russell Miller’s Bare-Faced Messiah. Mike’s audience is much more heavily skewed to people with affinity for L. Ron Hubbard and “the old days” of Scientology. And reading Miller is something many of them resist. We give Rinder points for potentially alienating some of them by suggesting they read this excellent book.

Also, Mike somehow left out one of the most fun things about Dan Sherman’s career as Hubbard’s official “biographer.” Steve Hall, like Rinder, assured us that the church can never publish the official church biography that Sherman has supposedly been working on for decades. But Hall also told us that Sherman claimed that through past-life auditing, he had discovered that he was the actual author of Genesis.

Does he get royalties for that?

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on July 12, 2016 at 07:00

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Our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely: How the Church of Scientology tried to destroy Paulette Cooper, is on sale at Amazon in paperback and Kindle editions. We’ve posted photographs of Paulette and scenes from her life at a separate location. Reader Sookie put together a complete index. More information about the book, and our 2015 book tour, can also be found at the book’s dedicated page.

Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • What’sup

    The story about Australian government is becoming a big one. We held a federal election last week and Senator Xenaphon proved very popular among voters and he and his small team now hold 3 senate seats. He is being hailed a political kingmaker and you can bet he’ll be all over this issue. I sure as hell voted for him.

    • PickAnotherID

      Posted a short form, 300 word limit to comments, of my “they lied” post here to the story. It’s “Awaiting Moderation”, so no idea when, or if, it will show up.

      • DoveAlexa

        That line usually means you broke Disqus. I manage to do that by editing a post too soon after initially posting, or by changing an image link after posting. No idea if it ever appears or if it just gets lost in the Matrix.

        • PickAnotherID

          Nothing to do with Disqus. I was talking about posting a comment to the story in the paper, which has a 300 word limit and moderates comments.

          • DoveAlexa

            Well, I hope they have some full-time mods.

            • jazzlover

              Just wanted to break my self-imposed “no more commenting” rule to thank you for calling out Nat-leficent on her idiotic troll comment directed at Eliza Doolittle. She is vitriolic, and as a result, this is the whole of what she has to contribute to the Bunker. As a matter of fact, she tried to shame me months ago as her clever little basement-dwelling buddy (you know who I’m talking about) was trolling ME all over the Bunker. There is a whole “underground” here in the underground. It’s one huge clique, and if you aren’t deemed “cool” by its standards, you get mistreated and shamed. It’s why I finally left. Some of those revered here are NOT good people. I’ve seen Kim going on hysterical rants far too often – it’s an attention-seeking “look at me, I’m cool” popularity thing around here. The thing is that she’s so ig’nant and hypocritical, that I believe that, without even realizing it, she ends up insulting everybody who has ever been associated with scientology. I’ve seen more than a few ex’s get annoyed and roll their eyes at her. I’ve even let it be known that this is NOT a good thing, but to no avail – turns out she’s “click bait”.

            • DoveAlexa

              *secret handshake* Thanks, man.

            • jazzlover

              No problem! If I see another person fawn over how brilliant J3 is, I’m gonna puke. LOL. The guy’s just another low self-esteemed internet dweller looking for validation. Seriously. I could tell you stories. The “holy rectangle” made up of Kim, J3, Fly and Nat are moronic, plain and simple. I’ve had it with making well-informed, intelligent, common sensical posts and seeing them get all the upvotes for sophomoric, schizophrenic paranoia. Three is a severe underestimate for J. I’m guessing he’s at least twice Sybil 🙂

    • Robert Eckert

      I was disappointed to see your Coalition squeak out a majority.

      • What’sup

        The other team is totally incompetent. I think South Park said it best.

        “You’re giving me a choice between a douchebag and a shit sandwich”

        The balance of power is very fine now which gives the voice of Nick Xenophon so much more resonance. The Australian people are very cynical about both parties as they’ve both shafted their own leaders in the past few years.
        ETA: the leaders they shafted were the elected Prime Minister at the time.

        • Robert Eckert

          Well the only issue that I cared about in your elections, from my safe position on the opposite end of the planet, was that Labour said they would enact same-sex marriage by statute, while the Libnats are promising a referendum that should bring out the religious nutters to campaign with ugly propaganda.

          • What’sup

            I’ve been with my significant other for 17 years, no kids but we share a mortgage and
            We’ve never felt the need to get married. Don’t get me wrong good luck to them but it’s not what I would consider an important issue.

            • gtsix

              Have kids and it’s very important issue. Have your SO get ill and be denied access, family leave for care, insurance benefits and decision making abilities and its a very important issue. If your so dies, your mortgage better be fully paid off or it is an issue (as you have to then completely pay off the mortgage or get it put solely in your name at a rate you can afford). If your SO dies, you can be denied bereavement leave, and if the family contests your involvement, you can be completely shut out of after life decisions, inheritance, military benefits or social security***

              ** note these are all issues in the US, not certain how Oz works these things.

              It’s not about a piece of paper and a cake. It is about access to the benefits of being a legally recognized family unit.

            • Lurkness

              “…if the family contests your involvement, you can be completely shut out of after life decisions,” Including funeral arrangements and decisions. I know of some partners/SO’s who have been hatefully excluded from saying farewell to their loved one. So very sad and wrong.

            • gtsix

              Indeed, as have I. I have a good friend who was denied all access to her wife after death, and her spouses hateful family even went so far as to hire security to ensure she didn’t “crash” her wife’s funeral. And she lost their house after her wife died, because she couldn’t pay the family for her spouses half of the house, so she had to sell, at a loss, to give the family their cut. She would drive by the house occasionally, to see how the rose bushes they planted together were doing. It broke her.

              I was not allowed into the “family waiting room” when my wife was undergoing surgery. I wasn’t even informed she was out of surgery for a full 4 hours after she was in the recovery room. And she specifically asked the nurse to come and inform me, and the nurse told her she would, and then did not. A kind orderly eventually let me know.

              Thankfully, this is no longer an issue for gays in the USA (unless you go to a catholic hospital. AVOID THEM!)

            • What’sup

              All good points, a few points of difference is that our right is very much akin to your left and we’re one of the most agnostic countries on earth, so although the religious may yell and scream they’re very much ignored. Common sense seems to have more of a bearing on our legislation than the US.

        • Linda Clement

          Speaking as a citizen of the country which may have elected George W. Bush twice, you have my heartfelt sympathy.

    • Lady Squash

      Bravo. I love the Aussies.

  • It seems my photo of the vacant temporary Toronto Org unlocked an achievement on Google Maps. I don’t know if that’s good or only a gold star that they hand out to everyone. I’ll get one of the new temporary Toronto Org, and let’s see.
    ..

    • Note: I’ve uploaded images to Google Maps before, from my camera without GPS, but never had them be the “headline” image for the location or get the views. I really do think Google Maps likes photos with GPS.

      From selfie practice while camping, I think the best way to get a shot of a location and virtual billboard, will be to hold the phone, and put the sign on a selfie-stick. I’ll experiment with the size of the sign so that it’s legible without blocking all the building that the photo is supposed to be about.
      ..

      • flyonthewall

        I added photos to the local Org here on Google Maps and got notification today they were posted but they’re not actually there. What gives?

        • They were photos of the local org with GPS information?

          • flyonthewall

            no just Hubbard pix and SO being overboarded from that old issue of Auditor

            • Google Maps is not our private army.

              As much as we see stuff like that as relevant to Scientology, they’ll see them as a bunch of images that don’t have any direct connection to that map location, and not immediately useful to their users.

              Google has powerful tools to analyze images and sort them. (They’ll cheerfully organize your personal photos by location, activity and the freaking faces of people in the photos [what could possibly go wrong with that helpful feature?].) Their Maps location photo office might be a small operation, but if need be, they can call on large resources and smart people. A simple check for the same image used on multiple locations would probably catch a lot of stuff.

              My idea to work with Google Maps (sort of) by taking unique actual images of the locations .. with a little added signage. That’s more likely to pass with a wink and nod from Google.

              P.S. Trying to game them by jamming in fake GPS info would probably be a very bad idea. (Never make extra work for smart people.)

            • I agree… but that’s not how William Drummont went about it with his “Slave labor” picture?!? and to actually go on location is only for a few people to do.

            • Billy posted images to orgs across the UK, then continental Europe, then the US.

              We still don’t know who originally posted an image of his “Slave Labour” sign on the Google Maps listing for the Plymouth Org – only that it was taken from the local press coverage of his public meeting to oppose Plymouth’s ‘Ideal Org’.

              Whoever did might still have no idea what they started.

              My take is that the CofS tried to exploit Google Maps, so it’s only fair that their opponents should turn the tables. It’s been fun, playing with the images, but we don’t want to overdo this and annoy Google.

              In future factual and unobjectionable reviews are probably the way to go.

            • got you!

            • flyonthewall

              That makes sense but William’s images are all over every Org on Goggle Maps and they don’t have anything to do with the location. Weird. I wouldn’t know how to jam fake GPS info in an image anyway so no worries there.

              It is ironic that they blocked my images but allowed CoS to put up fake CGI ones of their never-to-be opened Ideal Org. Here’s what the building actually looks like to this day and what they uploaded to Google Maps from their Freedumb website f5

            • Since Google Maps is all about helping people find their destination, that might be well worth pointing out in a review

              For example: ‘Be warned! The image provided by the business of its premises is a dishonest simulation of what the place will look like after it is renovated. At present it looks quite different, with boarded up windows and no signage.

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Say what you will about the folks at Freedom; they did a great job fixing up the photo of that cult office. Could the google one be pre-renovation? Whatever they did I am very impressed.

            • Robert Eckert
            • flyonthewall

              potemkin religion

        • same here! 🙁

        • Same here… but my images (which were totally irrelevant to the location) turned up a day or two later.

          The best approach is to open a google account and leave a review. Make it factual and reasonable and it’s actually in Google’s interest for them to publish and retain it. Images are really supposed to help people find the place, and it’s understandable if Google remove irrelevant ones.

          NB: I’ve accidentally discovered (see Narconon UK’s Google Maps listing) that if your review is broken up into several block paragraphs (as this post is) there is a glitch which treats each paragraph as a separate review. Consequently, if there are not enough reviews to fill the home page, yours makes multiple appearances.

          • flyonthewall

            yeah I’m still deciding on the content of my review. Thnx for the tip on the broken up paragraphs

      • a Selfie stick? – your funny!

    • PickAnotherID

      I wonder how many $cientologists are clicking on it, thinking they’re helping to drive up interest??

    • daisy

      I keep wanting to protest and then remember it is closed.

      • Their new Model Ideal Temporary location is at 2 College St, above the Starbucks. Unless people spot the small Scientology sign, they’d never know that the org is there. Doing a real protest there would probably only confuse people.

        • Robert Eckert

          They’d think you were protesting against the Starbucks cult!

          • No way! That’d be dangerous!

        • chukicita

          Above the Starbucks? Maybe the free wi-fi is part of that decision?

          • Hmm. Them on the Starbucks router, and me in Starbucks on the Starbucks router. Sounds cozy…

    • Baby

      Yippie RM f5

  • ReallyMGM

    Good morning Bunkerites. I’m off today for yet another nerve block procedure in my upper spine (c2-3). I’m becoming an old pro at these things. Shouldn’t take long, so I might be back when the Xanax wears off.

    ETA: I also went back to the the avatar picture of my snooty kitteh so people would recognize me. Love my Big Star Band forever though, but the cat was my first Bunker avatar and people remember it.

    • Robert Eckert

      Or you could post while the Xanax is still in full effect, that’s always amusing :p

      • ReallyMGM

        You know, I thought about it. I could play all my favorite YouTube videos for every one and be banned for life.
        ETA: Mostly 70s stuff meant to be played at ’11’

    • chukicita

      Aw! Hope this time does the trick for you! Why wait for anything to wear off? It’s the Bunker.

      • ReallyMGM

        Honestly, I’ll be seeing double. But I’ve already started so posted a video! No more though.

        • daisy

          So sorry you are having a bad day. I hope the nerve block helps . Hope to see you later

          • ReallyMGM

            Thanks Daisy. It’s not as Science Doc in any way so I have great empathy for him. But I am about five years or less behind him I the same surgery procedures. I read his journey with great interest. I worry and pray for his speedy recovery.

            • daisy

              The health and heartbreak of a lot of bunkerites puts my little aches and pains in perspective that is for sure. I pray every night . It is the only thing I can do.

  • Snuzey

    I’m happy to see Victoria’s fundraising page publicised. When I read what had happened, you know that at best Scientology contributed to his suicide… but when there is a Miscavige involved, you know it could be a whole lot more sinister. Who knows what really happened. Well I know who, but not sure he’ll say.

  • OOkpik

    Speaking of Fred Haseney, aren’t he and Graham Berry set to swamp Miscavige’s/Beatriz Castro Macias’ trumped-up plot to have him slapped with a permanent Restraining Order this Friday?

    We’re rooting for you, Fred.

    • Robert Eckert

      Last we heard, 15th was the date. Of course courts sometimes postpone things unexpectedly.

      • Commodore H. McCringleberry

        Agreed. I have a suspicion he was picked on due to a perceived lack of means. As long as they can keep the temporary order in place, expect to see some pretty “dog ate my homework” excuses for continuance from Noxy Moxy.

  • Lighthouse

    I hope Tom gets the help he needs to get custody of his daughter.

    • Simi Valley

      To you and to the people who upvoted this: how you do know that the baby’s mother is incompetent so as to have primary custody? This is getting into people’s very personal lives, and I am sorry that Tom is using his sway with this community to ask for support for a very personal issue that I don’t feel even belongs in this forum.

      • Robert Eckert

        Tom didn’t ask for the Bunker’s help. Tony decided to post it.

      • Mirnaminkoff

        Tom is a top notch guy, any body that knew him in the SO will vouch for that (& that’s a rare statement to make given the circumstances). If I was facing a custody battle for a baby with a spouse with addiction issues, I would do whatever it took to protect the child. You might be right that this tech has nothing directly to do with Scientology but I think the fact Tony put it here (w/o being asked) demonstrates the high opinion and regard people have for Tom. He’s been harassed and abused by the CoS for years and never asked for a penny. His actions and character over the years have earned him the confidence of many.

        • Simi Valley

          You are right … I had not read Tom’s gofundme page and had no clue that drug addiction was involved. My bad. I was just feeling for a lot of parents who were the underdogs and have had trouble with custody fights. I hope the situation will resolve with the best outcome for the baby.

      • gtsix

        I hear you, as this was my first thought this morning. It makes me quite a bit uncomfortable too.

        That being said, Tom didn’t bring it here, the proprietor did. His blog, his right to post what he feels.

        A gofundme can be set up for almost anything. And people are free to donate or not donate as they see fit. It is a very personal issue, so I understand where you are coming from.

        • Robert Eckert

          And regardless of the merits of the custody case, it is unfortunate that the legal system grinds people down into debt if they want to present their side.

          • gtsix

            Indeed. Mediation is supposed to save court costs. Why the fuck is it so expensive? It has simply shifted the costs of adjudicating law from the court to the individuals (and the brand new Mediation market).

      • thetastic

        That’s how I was feeling. I don’t know these people personally at all.

  • chukicita

    I wrote a soundtrack for Phil and Willie’s fundraiser for the Clearwater billboard, although I seem to have misplaced my esteemed production values (steep learning curve, not-so-steep chukibrain). Yes, I posted it here the other day, and this is the last time, I promise!

    https://youtu.be/a68QofbeRro?t=15s

    • ReallyMGM

      That’s great! Such talent in the Bunker.

    • jazzlover

      That’s pretty darn great for having been cobbled together rather quickly! Congratulations.

      Just in case you weren’t aware – there’s a little over a minute of silence tagged on at the end.

      • chukicita

        Yeah…I’m not sure how that happened. But I’d like to keep it there as a “moment of silence” for Ida Camburn, who never ever gave up on being able to talk with her son again.

        • jazzlover

          That works! It did occur to me that the silence might have been purposeful, but I wasn’t sure.

          • chukicita

            Thanks for giving it a purpose ;D

            • jazzlover

              I think you were the one giving it a purpose. I just pointed it out to you 🙂

              Forgive me if you’ve already thought of this. I don’t want to place you in an awkward position, so I won’t go into much detail (especially since there are at least a few here much more qualified than me to think creatively in matters of marketing). The song could be used in a creative way to help the billboard fundraising cause, or entice some sort of corporate sponsorship for it. Businesses like Amazon, for instance, would be looked upon very kindly if they supported this instead of their usual “let’s go green” type mantras.

            • chukicita

              I had not thought of that, but hey, whatever works! Phil and Willie certainly have my permission to use the song however they see fit.

            • jazzlover

              Have your peeps contact their peeps 😉

            • chukicita

              I have peeps?!

            • jazzlover

              LOL. Get ta dialin’ then 🙂

    • daisy

      It seems you have mastered that learning curve. It is so beautiful.

      • PickAnotherID

        Seconded!

      • chukicita

        Thanks – but there’s still a lot to learn! Playing all the instruments and singing is the easy part – making it sound decent is a whole ‘nother thing.

    • Baby

      You don’t have to promise us anything Chuk..You could post it every day and we would be happy.. It is absolutely beautiful…and thank you for including us in the process for feedback. WOW! Thank you! xo baby

      • chukicita

        I just hope it moves folks to support Phil and Willie’s initiative.

        • Baby

          Absolutely sweetheart.. No hope needed.. It will.. xoxox The power of Social Media is amazing.

          You just don’t know who will be listening when honey.. It is beautiful.. Just give it time to marinate..

    • flyonthewall

      very cool

    • Justmeteehee

      Love it!

    • joan nieman

      First time I have heard this chukicita and I am really impressed. I love the carefree, bluesy beat and smooth vocals. Very good composition and thank you for this contribution.

      • chukicita

        Thanks for the kind words. 😀 I enjoyed being able to play my own instruments (instead of those awful “arranging machines” they have out now – yeesh) but have a LOT to learn about recording arts.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          You know who to ask darlin’.

          • chukicita

            Seriously? I could use some help.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Of course my dear. You got info for Baby or BTN? Ask them for my email.

            • chukicita

              I do not.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Whaaaaaat? Rev Dee perhaps?

            • chukicita

              I have Dee’s card somewhere but I’m not sure where it is.

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Thanks for posting. I love it! I missed the other postings. Keep putting it up every once in a while for those who haven’t had the pleasure that I just experienced. Also, if you are under 80 you’ll have to google to find out about Chris Montez who had a hit with the song, Call Me. I think he would be jealous. Sinatra recorded it too.

      • chukicita

        LOL! I do remember that song, as well as Blondie’s song of the same name. There’s enough to put together a picket soundtrack!

  • PickAnotherID

    Regarding the ASI schools using TWTH in OZ being ‘secular’, it’s simple, they lied.

    Extracted, and reformated for easier reading, from the ‘1993 Closing Agreement’ between the IRS and $cientology (emphasis added):

    The social benefit and other public benefit entities discussed at pages 1-28 through 1-42 of the June submission along with all subsidiaries, subordinate chapters, subordinate organizations, or sublicensees thereof (e.g., organizations that are permitted to use particular names, copyrights, service marks, and/or technologies) are Scientology-related entities.

    Thus, for example,
    Citizens Commission on Human Rights,
    National Commission on Law Enforcement and Social Justice,
    Scientology Defense Fund Trust,
    Association for the Better Living and Education,
    Applied Scholastics Incorporated,
    Narconon International,
    The Way to Happiness Foundation,
    and the Foundation for Religious Freedom are Scientology-related entities.
    Pages 1-28 through 1-42 are attached as Exhibit VIII-2 to this Agreement.

    ———————–
    As part of the ‘1993 Closing Agreement’ between the IRS and $cientology a Group Exemption Letter was issued for Applied Scholastics International, and they were assigned Group Exemption Number (GEN) 4171. Which means ‘Subordinate’ organizations can cite the GEN of the parent on their annual IRS Form 990 without going through the normal process of requesting a tax exemption for themselves. This is the original list of ASI’s the IRS had:

    SEARCH TERM: APPLIED SCHOLASTICS INTERNATIONAL
    GEN: 4171
    SUBSECTION CODE: 03 – 501(c)3 TAX EXEMPT
    AFFILIATION CODE: 6 – CENTRAL/PARENT OF GROUP RULING 9 – SUBORDINATEORGANIZATION IN GROUP RULING
    NAME ABBREVIATED AS: ASI

    EIN:
    237250829 ASI 11755 RIVERVIEW DR SAINT LOUIS MO 63138-3610 4171 03 6
    262661943 ASI 3226 OLD FENCE RD ELLICOTT CITY MD 21042-2440 4171 03 9 CLEARWATER ACADEMY OF MARYLAND INC
    352180517 ASI 160 N CAUSEWAY ST MUSKEGON MI 49445-3302 4171 03 9 EFFECTIVE LEARNING CENTER
    205722791 ASI 4139 WINDMILL LN JANESVILLE WI 53546-4206 4171 03 9 SEQUOIA ACADEMY INC
    271211746 ASI 6324 N CHATHAM AVE KANSAS CITY MO 64151-2473 4171 03 9 SUCCESS ACHIEVED
    680504194 ASI 11755 RIVERVIEW DR SAINT LOUIS MO 63138-3610 4171 03 9 LITERACY ED AND ABILITY PROGRAM
    954417815 AS INC 19000 SATICOY ST RESEDA CA 91335-2519 4171 03 9 LEWIS CARROLL ACADEMY OF THE ARTS
    954749096 ASI 3031 ANGUS ST LOS ANGELES CA 90039-2557 4171 03 9 CARROLL REES ACADEMY & ARTS
    954809088 ASI 6336 HOLLYWOOD BLVD LOS ANGELES CA 90028-6303 4171 03 9 APPLIED SCHOLASTICS WUS
    954552942 ASI PO BOX 29726 LOS ANGELES CA 90029-0726 4171 03 9 APPLIED SCHOLASTICS OUTREACH
    264323614 ASI 15020 BURWOOD DR PERRIS CA 92570-9499 4171 03 9 APPLIED SCHOLASTICS ONLINE ACADEMY

    NOTE: Lewis Carroll Academy of the Arts (EIN: 954417815) is listed as
    “APPLIED SCHOLASTICS INCORPORATED”, rather than “APPLIED SCHOLASTICS INTERNATIONAL”

  • Watcher

    I am struck by the following contrast:

    When a $cilon starts a GoFundMe, they have trouble getting over $100 in a few months. When GoFundMe is started by someone friends with the Bunker, they can achieve much more than that in a few hours. The camaraderie and true support made on this website by people of different backgrounds united in a common, just cause never ceases to amaze me.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Swann’s Way or Swann song?

    “River run, past Eve and Adam’s, from swerve of shore to bend of bay,
    brings us by commodious vicus of recirculation
    back to Howth Castle and Environs
    Sir Tristram , violer d’amores, fr’over the short sea, had passen’core
    rearrived from North Armorica …”

    The premise?
    OT Powers are utter tosh and have NEVER been convincingly shown.
    Postulates are pismires.
    Remote viewing is horse dung of the lowest order.
    There are no Clears.
    Yet these are the carrot that sucks people into the quagmire.

    The hypothesis: That these questions cannot be answered except by
    inside knowledge or inspired guesswork.

    OT Challenge of the Day

    Day 1 What was in my pocket? No joy so I posted a photo.
    Day 2 identify the wood type and source of an object in the photo. No joy
    I initially said it was Southern Hemisphere.
    I subsequently supplied a list of all New Zealand islands.

    The OTness of many commenters here is definitely open to question –
    I clearly stated in the very first post of the day that it was a) wood and b) from a New Zealand island.
    I received suggestions that it was an antler, a knife-handle, drift-wood from the St. Lawrence, ironwood,
    Chocolate, Tootsie roll, ash ….

    Yesterday: I-Betty came closest of the Bunker OT Committee – she said Kauri from Waiheke.
    Actually it is manuka from Aotea.
    Manuka is the tree that gives manuka honey and tea tree oil.
    It is a delight to carve, incredibly strong – the Maori used it for paddles and war-clubs –
    and it has an astonishing array of colors – chocolate, beige, cream, purple, cafe-au-lait,
    in any given log.

    We DID sail to Waiheke the day after I gathered that branch and I did see kauri stumps 6-10
    feet across where virtually all old-growth had been felled over 100 years ago, as I made my
    way down the mountain with Fian’s teether-to-be in my pocket.
    Good guesses, sweetheart 🙂

    So I-Betty is hereby granted Bunker OT 47 (never to be revoked at any whim of DM’s.)
    And Mighty Korgo is awarded Bunker OT 6 7/8.
    Nyuk nyuk nyuk
    I need your wins written up and on my desk by 2 pm Thursday 🙂
    Shorpy and Obs are the Diploma Gods around here -spellcheck seems to think DM is –
    it changed “Shorpy.” Mebbe go back to 1Sub?

    No attempts at all from Ithiiliien, Habufan or any others who claim remote viewing
    must/might/does mean something because CIA/Russia/Stanford/…
    They are making seemingly their Swannsong.

    Here, chaps, a chance to redeem yourselves, A Remembrance of Things Past.
    This is your third shot so I’ll give you 3 different challenges 🙂
    Solve any and I will declare Lord Hubris master of the Universes.

    1 On the journey to Waiheke – a 5-hour sail, we were briefly diverted.
    By what?

    2 While on Aotea, I caught a brace of 15 lb. red snappers.
    What did we have for lunch that day and what happened during lunchtime?

    3 What am I making at the moment?

    Perhaps you should consult Lord Hubris’ work?
    Or get some copper rods?
    Xenu, Bless this Ship and All Who Fail in Her.

    • jazzlover

      LOL. I must’ve missed it. Yeah. What i-Betty said. That was gonna be my answer. I swear 😉

      (where’s that confounded theta-clearing suit?)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2JXr4HQgBZI

    • What’sup

      Shots Fired!

    • Chee Chalker

      3) what are you making right now?
      Scrambled eggs
      Or toast
      Or pancakes
      Some sort of breakfast food
      BAM! OT powers!

    • Baby

      Wait.. Pan.. While everyone was playin fun games yesterday.. And havin a adventurous day with Trolls..

      I led a very dedicated crew in cleaning up efforts comparable to VM in Cleaning up Unnecessary Vile Sledge from unknown and known sources.

      So I will take all steps necessary to ensure that I participate in this activity to the fullest of my OT abilities.
      Thank you for your time and attention in this matter. Much Love Baby Bunker Emperotis Salute

      • Baby

        Q. On the journey to Waiheke- a 5-hour sail, we were briefly diverted.
        By what?
        A. Wait I have to find out where Waiheke is.. But I know I’m already jealous

        Q. While on Aotea, I caught a brace of 15 lb. red snappers.
        What did we have for lunch that day and what happened during lunchtime?
        A. I know what I had for lunch. I had a bowl of cereal .. and a half eaten apple the dogs didn’t want.

        Q. What am I making at the moment?
        A. You are making me live vicariously through you right now.
        ………………………..

        1. A beautiful school of jelly fish
        2. Red Snapper.. and the Cook in the kitchen in the restaurant cooked it for you.
        3. What are you making?

        Uhm.. Let’s see… You are using Local Ingredients.. I will say a Seafood Quiche and a delectable
        Sweetness..as a complimentary dish/ dessert

        I’m sensing…UHM ( I’m tryin to exterorize ) that I would probably kill for that meal.

        That ‘s all I got.. You guys.. what a trip! ENJOY, ENJOY ENJOY! Have fun all PANS

        • daisy

          What a coincident a half of apple and bowl of cereal is what I had for supper.

    • Commodore H. McCringleberry

      riverrun. James Joyce said riverrun. House Tully agrees.

    • chukicita

      1. a boat race
      2. While enjoying freshly caught fish and a lovely local wine, you learned that Scientology, Inc. has a somewhat lesser presence these days (see image).
      3. You are making fun in the best bardic tradition.

      f5

    • Commodore H. McCringleberry

      Fun Fact- another religion, which in some contries has a higher membership than Scientology, deals with the phenomenon of psychometry. I’ll give you a hint- it’s a newer religion than Scientology. They call their collected religious works ‘the canon’, which until recently, was coded into several levels- like G-canon, M-canon, and E-canon- to sort out abrogation issues (something that started with Islam and continues through this religion- it sorts out contradictions in scripture- In Islam, they take as authoritative the teaching of the Prophet which came chronologically latest; in this faith, the founding members are ranked in level of authority). They recently (last year) re-codified their scripture to eliminate the various levels.

      Give up?

      The answer is Jedi. Psychometry is a Light Side Force power, most heavily exhibited by Master Quinlan Vos, who is in several episodes of the Clone Wars show. The ability was also demonstrated by Rey in The Force Awakens when she touches Luke Skywalker’s lightsaber the first time.

      • Missionary Kid

        According to British census, it also has far more adherents than $cientology.

      • As MK points out below, Jedi have beaten Scientology in both the 2001 and 2011 British censuses (the only two in which religious affiliation has been a (voluntary) question. . .

        When the 2001 figures for religion were released in the form of a spreadsheet, statisticians actually made a Jedi joke.

        There is an official spreadsheet entitled,

        Census 2001 Summary theme figures and rankings – 390,000 Jedi There Are (Excel sheet 40Kb)”

        This pays tribute to Master Yoda’s eccentric English word order. https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2015/01/19/scientology-in-the-uk-what-does-the-2011-census-data-tell-us/

    • Kestrel

      1. A whale sighting
      2. Mince meat pie. You discovered L&P is made with mineral water.
      3. You’re making a mad dash for the toilet.

    • Qbird

      You caught a 15# Genuine American Red Snapper!?! Ah-ha! Ho Boy!
      Kinda like a Mutton Snapper, but oh so much better…
      That’s some of the best eats ever! Gifts from the Sea.
      Fish ~ nature’s fast food… fish tacos? A simple blackened sammich? Chowder? Ceviche?
      It could be anything & all of it tasty & good for ya – 😀

      diverted by a whale?

      • Qbird

        a fine fine fish ~

  • seriouslyWTF

    Just saw this on Twitter. Should be interesting.
    https://twitter.com/aldwyn/status/752853951939158016

    • Xenu is my Homeboy

      Erm, the host describes herself with the words :

      She loves the work of English writer David Icke, who is waking the world up by ‘exposing the dreamworld we believe to be real’

      My eyes just glazed over.

      • Irit8ted

        Saturn isnt what you think it is … according to David Icke.
        He must be as wacky as L Ron was.
        But hopefully not as ruinous or toxic for followers.

        • Wacky doesn’t begin to cover Icke. Doesn’t seem as malicious as Hubbs, But seems every inch as mental.

        • villagedianne

          “But hopefully not as ruinous or toxic for followers.”

          I’ve read several of Icke’s books and seen him speak a few times. Icke is not a guru and he does not insist that his readers believe everything he says. He does not dictate to people what to think or how to live. Over the last fifteen years I’ve spent maybe $200-$300 total on his books and lectures.

          If we compare everyone who has highly unusual ideas to Hubbard, we trivialize the evil Hubbard has perpetrated. It contributes to a perception that Scientology is just a wacky religion, rather than an abusive cult.

      • Lucille Austero

        Hey. I thought Morpheus said that.

    • Baby

      Hi honey.. xo love me…zipping in and zippin out

  • EnthralledObserver

    Yeah, figures. First we discover most of the Islamic schools are fraudulently funneling taxpayer funds intended for use for students to Islamic organisations, and now the $ci-cult is somehow fraudulently attaining excess funding… which no doubt gets funneled elsewhere as well. Useless fucking Government departments failing to monitor criminal fake religions..ffs.

    • What’sup

      The Exclusive Bretheron have had their grubby little mitts out too.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Geeze… it’s endemic. Hopefully Pauline can sort them out. Royal Commissions into every fucking thing!

  • YellowSubmarine
    • YellowSubmarine

      The only reason why public is flooding into the orgs :’)

      • DoveAlexa

        No worries, they can loiter outside and get them.

  • Tony Ortega

    Note about Dan Sherman added to the post.

  • ze moo

    Yeah, sure, Sherman wrote Genesis. But only the part about ‘Robbery, Assault and Battery’.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4ui-HncKTz4

    • daisy

      I am not geeting note .Oh sorry didn’t refresh,

      • jazzlover

        Refresh.

    • jazzlover

      See now? That’s some Genesis I can abide by 🙂

      “Mad Mad Moon” about Hubs? I propose we play a medley of “Dance on a Volcano” and “Los Endos” at the moment scientology comes crashing to the ground.

  • Ah, the good ol’ silver mullet. I could believe he was in Genesis with that hair.

    • jazzlover

      Only if he had the balls to do this:

    • chukicita

      Selling England by the Pound.

  • Xenu is my Homeboy

    But Hall also told us that Sherman claimed that through past-life auditing, he had discovered that he was the actual author of Genesis.

    Interesting. Most modern scholars have come to the conclusion that Moses didn’t write Genesis, indeed that there never was a Moses, and that Genesis was created by multiple authors other many years. It’s almost like the Mulleted Wonder doesn’t know anything about modern Biblical scholarship…

    • What’sup

      • Snuzey

        I love this! Saving!! Thanks 🙂

  • Robert Eckert

    “In the beginning, and, moreover, in conclusion, God expanded the heavens and the earth to an unprecedented new order of magnitude, straight up and vertical, and the earth was without form and void, exactly as LRH intended…”

    • jazzlover

      You will be hearing from Gideons’ lawyers in due time.

      • Missionary Kid

        Gideon doesn’t have the copyright.

        • jazzlover

          I know. They however stand to lose the most by editing Genesis since they provide a plethora of free copies around the world 🙂

          • Missionary Kid

            With Gideon, they’ll just keep on putting out the copies that are theologically consistent with their interpretation of the bible. They have nothing to lose. They’re true believers, IMO.

            • jazzlover

              It’s ok to be a true believer if you’re not destroying others in your wake.

            • Missionary Kid

              Unfortunately, Christianity has a history of doing that. E.g. destroying native cultures in the New World and enslaving natives to build missions.

              In more modern times, there has been a large measure of cultural imperialism, along with the good works that have been done by missionaries.

            • jazzlover

              There are just some things you realize are in the past, and you move on. There was a time – pre-civilization – when literally everybody could be considered evil if you try hard enough. Me? Right now I’m more worried about the line of shit that our gub constantly feeds us. Greatest nation in the world? IMO, not as long as blights like this are allowed to exist here. Not as long as we continue to send our own off to die in needless wars under the premise of “for our safety”. And lastly, not as long as we continue to deny eugenics, and the part it played in WWII.

            • Missionary Kid

              Governments, religions, and organizations like to point out the “evil” in others. Thank goodness we have the first amendment, but too often we get diverted by shiny stories that have nothing to do with the world, and everything to do with narcissism.

            • jazzlover

              It’s all fake nonsense. I wish I knew what the end game was.

            • Missionary Kid

              I disagree that anything is “all.”

              Religions, and politicians, and organizations, especially Co$, make pronouncements about what the end game is, some claiming more certainty than others.

            • jazzlover

              Not sure I get your first sentence.

              We’re getting to the point (or maybe we reached it long ago), especially with the proliferation of information on the net, where it’s more difficult to discern fact from fiction.

            • Missionary Kid

              “It’s all fake nonsense.” I disagree with “all.”

              One of the things that brings me back to reality from all of the fantasy published on the ‘net is professional journalism. That’s why network news, newspapers, and magazines are still important. It’s up to us to use our skepticism to winnow out what is important.

              There is a lot of noise on the interwebs.

            • jazzlover

              There is a lot in “news media” as well. The onus is on the news consumer more than ever to decide what is important or true. That still guarantees nothing.

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s why we have intelligence.

              I was reading American Opinion (The house organ of the John Birch Society) and the Communist Worker’s Party rag while I was in high school. That was in the early 1960s. The viewpoints were different, but the paranoia was consistent in both.

              There were nuggets of truth scattered in both, just enough to convince the unwary that each was somehow telling the whole truth. Hubbard used the same playbook.

            • Since the origin of humanity it’s been up to the individual to separate the truth from the self-serving bullshit put about by others.

              The Internet provides more of both (and the opportunity to do your own research) but it has not changed that fundamental fact, which is a consequence of human nature.

            • jazzlover

              Point taken. Perhaps we could petition for the 25 hour day? 😉 That extra one hour might make all the difference in the world.

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      This is brilliant.

    • Jimmy3

      Damn I didn’t see this and it’s better than mine

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      That’s funny, funny stuff.

  • Linda Clement

    Please be at cause about the ❤Recommended above the comments section.

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    So Dan Sherman remembers that in a past life he wrote the book of Genesis? Sure Dan. Well, whether or not Ron thought that it was Dan who wrote it he just had to take the idea for his own and ‘one up’ the concept. Genesis was “in the beginning” so Ron figured he could beat that and have his ‘Factors’ start even earlier. Yeah, earlier than ‘the beginning’.

    Book of GENESIS
    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

    Scientology FACTORS
    1 Before the beginning was a Cause and the entire purpose of the Cause was the creation of effect.

  • Simon Tology

    I just read the first couple of chapters of Genesis, and I have to say I think Dan Sherman might be telling the truth, for once.

    1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth. But let me tell you, he was only just getting started, because it was time to go full throttle, to put the pedal to the metal, because God hath a flagrant disregard for MEST speed restrictions. 2 Now the earth was formless and not to mention empty, darkness was over the surface of the deep, and you heard it here first; the Spirit of God was hovering over the waters. What God was about to do will blow you away. Or perhaps I should say, blow you fifty feet out of your head.

    • FredEX2

      LOL !

  • Stephanie Loving

    The great Levon Helm said: “If you give it good concentration, good energy, good heart and good performance, the song will play you.” Tony same for you. Your song is the Bunker or maybe the Bunker is your Strat. Whichever. I just know that I read the Bunker and receive fresh trustworthy cutting edge information. All wrapped in amazing and fascinating commentary. Commentary by many contributors who themselves hit high investigative, journalistic standards. And then there is the humor and the keyboard spraying. And the kibitzing. And the helping. So much good comes through your Bunker. Thank you again and again.

    • jazzlover

      I hereby declare you the anti-Marisa Sigmond, who couldn’t be more insulting to scientology watchers if she tried 😉

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      You quote Levon Helm, you win my heart. Thanks for spreading positivity, Stephanie!
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rpRDIKAUnY

      • Stephanie Loving

        Oh gosh what a man what a mighty fine man he was. Thank you 5 feet. Helm was so real and pure and all the right stuff. And you picked Ophelia! Bless you. Hard to get my work done now.

        • And the book sayeth “He shall be Levon, and he shall be a good man . . .”

          • Stephanie Loving

            That’s perfect Artoo. Now I’ve Elton’s tune along with Ophelia banging about my cabeza. And I don’t mind one bit. ;o)

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          I know, this song just makes me wanna get up and dance all day! I’m sure your co-workers will forgive you for humming your way through the rest of the work day. ; )

          Yes, by all accounts, Levon was kind, generous, salt of the earth folk with a communal spirit who saw music as a way to bind people together. What I would’ve given to be at one of those Midnight Rambles he hosted in his barn…They sounded like such a blast!

          • Stephanie Loving

            To be in that barn at midnight! Would be one of my “way back machine” requests for sure. I’ve got to teach in an hour (webex to LA and Chicago) … but until then. I’m listening to Big Pink. ;o)

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Good choice. Get your groove on for the next hour!

            • Stephanie Loving

              And I did exactly that. “Chest Fever!”

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Awesome. Rock on, sister!

    • rom661

      A fellow Levon lover. A friend of mine did some production work with him. He thought the world of Levon and said there wasn’t an ounce of pretense. Nice seeing him mentioned.

      • Stephanie Loving

        I watched The Last Waltz over 20 times because of Levon. Midnight Ramble! He’s missed. Thank you rom661 ;o)

        • Jeb Burton

          Last Waltz is still the best concert film ever. Those dudes could play with anybody and play it well. Levon was the best I’ve seen drumming and singing. And what a writer. Going to go home and watch it again tonight. Thanks for putting it in my head.

          • Stephanie Loving

            Jeb … You know what? I’m gonna do the same … been probably 4 or 5 years since I’ve watched it. Scorcese, the Band … amazing. And then Van the Man blows the roof off the place.

  • UhLasare

    Realty good interview with Victoria Britton about Kyle http://insidecville.com/nation/kyle-brennan/

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Jim Sherman wrote Genesis?
    I wrote this:

    The Gospel of Panopea

    The Lying Lies Down With The Clam

    This was in the time before the Clambush at LAX.
    And they gathered there, the Can Clan.
    The Empeor Zero fiddled while the faithful clambered onto the clamster wheel again
    instead of going on the clam.

    King Clam doled out the Milk of Clamnesia
    laced with Hubbard’s Clambrosia.
    The more devout (or deluded) were dancing the clambada.
    Little did they know that they would all come to the Whaling Wall
    where there would be clamentations and whaling and gnashing of thieves.
    Some of them look like clampoons, clambulant disasters in need of a clambulance.
    Some look as though they have ingested Clamanita Muscaria or too many clamarettos.
    Flies stuck in clamber.

    The naked clambition of Caligula permeates the clambience.

    Go in peace.
    Love and swerve the Lard.
    This is the Turd of the Lard

    Ramen

    The Co$a Nostra

    Our Faulter’s Woo Art in Hemet
    Hollow be Thy game
    Thy King, dumb, gives crumbs
    Thy Will undone in Creston
    As it is in Hemet
    Give us this day our daily dread
    And give us our debts as we force debtors
    And lead us into sensation
    But Deliver Us to Weasels
    For thine is the King, dumb,
    And the glower and the gory,
    For ever and ever
    Ramen.

    Fian says DM was the snake in the garden.
    And Hubbard’s “philosophy” was the fig-leaf.

    • flyonthewall

      ever take the kiddos on a Sasquatch hunt? Fian is too little but your older one may enjoy it. Mine still talk about ours. We found tracks and everything, was quite fun.

      • Qbird

        Sasquatch may be found here @ the Fly Geyser, Nevada ~ (not shooped photo)

    • JaxNGold

      Too good, Pan! Almost died over the second paragraph.

      Fian is beautiful 😍

    • aquaclara

      If you could possibly top yourself, you just did. Thank you for the laughs and brilliance. Oh, and then you go put the cutest baby in there.
      Winning. All the way.

  • Stay Puft

    “he had discovered that he was the actual author of Genesis”

    Sounds like he’s got an invisible touch.

  • Jimmy3

    Holy shit. I guess I’ve never read the Book of Genesis very carefully.

    And by way of example, yes, when Ron said, “Hence, let there be light,” it should come as no shock that you, the true planetary guardians from all over the globe, the millions strong, answered the call and said that without a doubt that, yes, there will be check-writing, psych-busting light! And, yes, he saw that it was good, and furthermore, the people stood in applause.

  • Always Amazed

    Wow

  • Beginning the slow task of editing and finishing my story of LRH in Target 2, and at the bottom of the first chapter I see this, and am filled with warm remembrance. <3 SPF.

    • Science Doc

      Glad to hear that. I thought you were blocked a bit where you left it. Hope you see through to a decisive finish.

    • Qbird

      SPF & Jo! 🙂

  • Linda Clement

    Off topic: If anyone is interested in the really great science fiction short stories from the pulp magazines for which L. Ron Hubbard occasionally supplied filler, check out the 13 volumes of Theodore Sturgeon’s short stories. They can be found online at Amazon as well as alternative sources. I was fortunate enough to meet Ted when he spent a week guesting at Prof. James Gunn’s SF seminar at the University of Kansas in the late 70s. He was about 70 himself and was traveling around the country in a souped-up, multicolored VW Beetle with a 20-year-old belly dancer. Her performance was one of the most memorable parts of the seminar. A photo of Ted and the Beetle is included in each volume. Warning: one of my favorites, Baby Is Three, was later expanded into a novel, More Than Human, and reading the short story first takes a bit of the shine off the novel.

    • Missionary Kid

      LRH wasn’t fit to lick Ted Sturgeon’s shoe soles after they have walked through a barnyard.

      • Little known fact: Theodore Sturgeon was the model for Kurt Vonnegut’s character Kilgore Trout, of which Vonnegut observed, “His prose was frightful . Only his ideas were good”.

        That said, when I read books like “Some of Your Blood” and “Case and the Dreamer” (both by Sturgeon) I was too young to be bothered by the prose, because his ideas really were good – and even his prose was a lot better than Hubbard’s.

        Even less known fact: the psychiatrist in “Some of Your Blood” is influenced by dianetics.

        • Missionary Kid

          Thanks.

    • A number of copies of the best of those SF pulps (“Astounding Science Fiction”) are available here https://scicrit.wordpress.com/fight-scientology-link-rot-send-me-a-file/ as part of series about the way in which the editor of “Astounding”.John W Campbell promoted dianetics in the early days.

      • Missionary Kid

        Campbell abandoned Dianetics by the time I started to read Astounding in the middle 1950’s.

        I don’t recall LRH’s works being included in any “best of” anthologies. He wrote drekk, as far as I’m concerned.

        • After Campbell abandoned Dianetics, he moved on to other junk like the Hieronymus machine, which seems to have recently reappeared as expensive fake bomb detectors. (Bojemoi!) (Some are based on dowsing rods.)

          I know he loved to troll his readers to provoke them, but he fell in love with a lot of contra-factual crap.

          • Missionary Kid

            Yup. I learned to read his editorials very closely, because the letter writers would get skewered when they would make assumptions about what he meant, instead of what he actually wrote. He loved to stir the pot.

            Campbell would make some outrageous statement in a headline, but then clarify it to the point that one had to agree with it. The devil was in the details.

          • And “The Dean Drive” – a device which is supposed to provide a spacecraft with motive force without ejecting reaction mass.

            A variation upon this turned up recently in stories that claimed that NASA was experimenting with just such an engine. Unsurprisingly, nothing more was heard of it.

        • If you read “The John W Campbell Letters” Campbell seems to have put dianetics aside, as he eventually put aside almost all of his fringe enthusiasms. He retained the diffuse belief that there was ‘something in it’, but was seriously disillusioned with Hubbard whom he thought had promoted his ‘discovery’ badly.

          He never quite got around to condemning dianetics as nonsense but rather moved on to supporting other nonsense, and let it hang.

          In the posts referenced above, I studied the availability of books by Hubbard through mail-order vendors operating in the pages of “Astounding”.

          Even when the promotion of “Dianetics” was at its the height, and Hubbard’s name was well known to readers, only one or two works of fiction by Hubbard were offered for sale in “Astounding”, and they disappeared as soon the dianetics fad started to wane.

          This is because it just wasn’t any good. When TV and radio killed off the pulps, and good SF writers moved to book publishing, Hubbard was simply left behind. His work never was included in any anthologies or reprinted by commercial publishers.

          It only survives today as a curious example of posthumous vanity publication.

          • Missionary Kid

            I read Astounding for the stories first, then the letters and editorial. Campbell was an excellent editor for the writers he picked and nurtured, not for his editorials, IMO.

            Some of the letters and replies were an education because of the caliber of the writing and the way that logic was used.

            • I didn’t read “Astounding” at the time of publication and subsequently concentrated on the period when it promoted dianetics. During this time Campbell clearly suspended his critical faculties whenever that subject came up.

              The rest of the time he was interesting and provocative. His aim was to make people think, and he generally succeeded. Some authors just didn’t like the man, but he did nurture a stable of really good writers who were stimulated by his brainstorming style.

              This made for a great magazine, but it has to be said he damaged his reputation with his enthusiasm for daft ideas like dianetics. This is certainly the consensus between serious science fiction critics https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/24/l-ron-hubbard-literary-genius-or-hack/

            • Missionary Kid

              Agreed. Well put.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Oh Dan Sherman, he of the mullet, was the author of Genesis?

    This would mean that yet again he is second fiddle publicity hack to an angry and pompous cult founder.

    Does he really think that is something he should be proud of?

    He has no tolerance for actual history or science or even common sense. Instead he has CERTAINTY!, the patent nonsense of a self congratulating idiot on the thoroughness of his idiocy.

    His days are numbered, not his verse.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Well said! Thorough idiocy is, of course, the only type allowed in Scilonville…going ‘half-idiot’ would just never do 😉

      The inflexible rigidity of belief that’s required of a True Believer in order for them to be able to avoid committing any of the vast number of ‘thought crimes’ that would eventually be unearthed (either through coerced sec checking or o/w write-ups) and get their pre-crime asses sent to ethics (or straight to the RPF) is absolute.

      Even a small glitch in the matrix of the scn myth could prove fatal to your continued blind adherence to it, so multiple levels of external and internal thought policing are required to avoid it.

      Former cult ‘pretty face’ spokesperson, Tommy Davis spontaneously came up with the acid test of scn’s validity, while personally exemplifying the rigidity of belief required of fully committed cult members, when he noted in an interview that if the history of dianetic’s discovery by Elron as a cure for his serious war injuries was proven false, then the whole edifice of the religion would collapse…and so it should have for him and all those whose beliefs are as rigidly fixed as his!

      Because the well-verified official documentation of Elron’s WW11 military service and medical treatment at the time completely contradict the founder’s claims, one must reject the entirety of the religion, based on Davis’s absolutist test. The only other way is to bury your head as deeply in the sand as possible whenever you can and shout down those who have documented the many other glitches in the rigidly constructed matrix of belief that every True Believer is required to maintain. Rigid belief systems, based on the all-knowingness and infallibility of a charismatic founder, are brittle belief systems that either stand or fall with the actual documented personal history of that exalted and deified individual.

      And this formula for self-internalized thought policing might work just fine if we were in N.Korea, where there’s no easy access to the internet and dissenters and their families are sentenced to penal labor camps for three generations. But here in the U.S., where internet/media connectivity is ubiquitous, it’s become increasingly difficult to enforce self-censoring behavior and to dismiss dissenters’/defectors’ stories as all a mess of lies, concocted by evil SPs out to destroy mankind’s one and only chance for spiritual freedom.

      That’s because the internet crowd sources Truth, which when it comes at you from a thousand different angles and is told by a host of unrelated folks with little to gain, but a lot to lose, starts to look like exactly what it is very soon after you begin to look at with open eyes just a very few times.

      One can only hope that as more and more of those still imprisoned by their increasingly dissonant beliefs see the “Call Me” sign that they will follow their true heart’s desire to be re-connected to their family and friends.

      Mercifully, I no longer have any family or friends who are still enthrall to the cult. But if I did, I think that I would get one of those “Call Me” signs and personalize it by appending the name of my family member or friend to it ( e.g., “To my loved one in Scientology…Tommy Davis”) and then take a selfie of me and everyone else that person knows holding it up between us, then plaster it across the internet and seek to get it re-tweeted by as many as possible. It’s a direct and very personal message to all who are in and have been coercively deprived of contact with their family and friends that can’t help but plant the seed of hope for reunion if and when it reaches them.

      Picture this: A long picnic table, loaded with everything good to eat, set up in the shade of a huge oak tree out front of the family home, with family and friends seated around it, all laughing and eating as kids and puppies frolic in the background. At the head of the table, in the seat that’s being saved for the missing loved one is a big picture of him or her, and above it is a big “Call Me” sign that’s been altered to include the missing family member’s name and with the “ME” crossed out and replaced with “Us”.

      Not everyone who’s in the cult may have a family on the outside to come home to, so maybe the rest of us could pitch in and sponsor them?

  • Mullet Genesis 1:3 And Ron said, “Let there be bullshit,” and there was bullshit.

    • dopi

      mullet genesis 1:9 Maketh Money. Maketh More Money. Maketh Other Sheeple Produce So As To Maketh More Money.

    • aquaclara

      Cracking up over this, Nat. We need a new list around here of best quotes, starting with this one.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    I thought I’d join the fun and try a bit of biblical Shermanation:

    1. First, which is to say even before and most importantly, previous, the august personage of the almighty, though certainly that cannot simply encompass the truly vast character of this almost mythical author of all, God, incredibly and absolutely by divine thought alone brought into actuality, which is to point out there was no actuality before the actuality postulate by God, and further astoundingly that it was done without knowing the elements of style, the very fabric and substance of all the vastness of empty sky, planets and stars, emphatically everything above us that we can see from the lonely and insignificant earth, and even the very same blue round and green point of view we all share itself was likewise brought into substance.

    2.

  • BosonStark

    Steve Hall should know who wrote Genesis. Through auditing, Steve found out he was the Son of God, and in a later life, Tintoretto. This would account for the god-like and artistic qualities Steve imparts to lawn care.

    Remember, if it’s not lunacy, it’s not Scientology.

    Later Note: See my correction below where I retract the part about Steve finding out he was Jesus.

    • pluvo

      Dox?

      • BosonStark

        See Steve’s auditing files archived on Target 2. I misplaced my copy but this factoid is unforgettable.

        • pluvo

          “Steve’s auditing files”? AFAIK, this was a OSA smear campaign on Freedom’s “Posse of Lunatics”.

          • BosonStark

            Just what kind of smear is it to say a person was Jesus, and that it was verified through auditing? Sorry, that’s too clever for OSA to have made up. Hall is a loon. Or, Scientology causes a lot of delusions in people. It’s probably a little of both.

            • pluvo

              Steve Hall: In my case, I think they went way over the top. Because I was once cast to play the part of Jesus in a 1992 picture story published in the book What is Scientology? the Church of Miscavige has published in their Freedom magazine and elsewhere that I claim that to be “Jesus, God and Buddha” which is misinformation (false). I was cast for the part because I had a beard…
              http://www.scientology-cult.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=409:black-propaganda&catid=13:thoughtful&Itemid=252

            • BosonStark

              Okay, I believe that and will stop writing that about Steve. Thanks for the correction. That sounds plausible. I’ve still got him down for Tintoretto though.

            • pluvo

              🙂 ok.

            • BosonStark

              Really, I’m embarrassed, because I’ve mentioned that several times. I still think the Target 2 stuff is nuts. If I had been in Scientology, I may have ended up thinking I was Tintoretto in a past life also, or a planet eater or something. Steve looked like Jesus so that all makes sense that he was cast in the role, and then OSA uses it to smear him. How nutty.

              At the time I remember thinking it was ironic that Scientology was smearing ex-members with the past-life delusions they induce in them.

            • pluvo

              No need to be embarrassed, it shows strength of character to admit one was wrong.
              I was in and could tell you what one is capable of believing or imagining (it would be quite embarrassing). Never underestimate OSA with their ‘dead agenting’ and ‘fair game’. They really want to destroy the targets (see Paulette Cooper).

    • Jimmy3

      fuck this guy
      what is his problem

      • gtsix

        Scientology

      • 😉

      • Ella Raitch

        Aww be nice – can’t you see how uncomfortable he looks? And it has nothing to do with the tiny dog in his cup either, because FYIY Nat shopped that in. I think his ass is allergic to chintz.

    • thetastic

      I love these so much!! I want to write this guy a letter and thank him for having a giant cup of tea.

    • Vaquera

      He’s a cutie and he’s a Super Power! Ladies, what more could one want in a boy toy? f5

      • Qbird

        AND! He be lookin’ for a sugar~mama on account of how expensive those SPz are!
        never ending prices

        • Vaquera

          I think a shoe intervention is required. f5

      • A brain XD

        • Ella Raitch

          And a sense of humour

    • He is so cute but he just looks so uncomfortable. Poor guy. Couldn’t the cultie that took this picture haven taken another one??

      • DoveAlexa

        Yeah, ‘shop cutie somewhere nice!

        • Like on the toilet. That’s where he would eventually relieve his discomfort.

          • DoveAlexa

            Gawd, Derek…

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    So Dan Sherman wrote the opening lines of Genesis? So what? I am NOT impressed.

    When I hear “Let there be love” I AM impressed. It’s by Lionel Rand and Ian Grant (I looked that up).

    This is probably one of the best covers:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkc6xS18Xgo

    • jazzlover

      O/T: Nat is a favorite of mine. Get thee to his piano trio recordings 🙂 He’ll show all the lost travelers where Route 66 really is.

  • Still feeling a touch fragile after yesterday’s birthday celebration (Sharp’s Wolf Rock Red IPA, would you believe?) so hope you’ll forgive a little recycling. (Refresh extreme palaeographical scepticism):

    • jazzlover

      Belated happy! Birthdays forgive everything 🙂

      • Thanks, jazzlover! 🙂 (That beer was pretty unforgiving—didn’t realise until it was too late it was 4.8% ABV…)

        • jazzlover

          You’re welcome, Mark. That’ll teach ya. Maybe it’s time to switch over to our cheap piss-water swill 🙂

          • Ahem: “Wolf Rock is an American Amber / Red Ale-style beer brewed by Sharp’s of Cornwall…” 😉

            • jazzlover

              Ah. There are some respectable craft-brewed thing here. I was thinking you try some of the thieving Busch family’s King of Beers, though 😉 Or a favorite for the horny teens in upstate NY/lower Canada (depending on whether you take John P’s perspective):

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f37ca726b5312a9b0e417c1922ad2a4435f4ae50f9842cf89030b0f49863b194.jpg

            • aquaclara

              Omg, Genny cream. Next thing, you’ll be bringing IC Light and Natty Lite in here….swill memories from the broke college days (the Natty Lite was my kids, though).

              IC, for those not in the know, is for Iron City, aka Pittsburgh, a few hours southwesterly of the Genny Cream hometown of Rochester.

              Ok, now I’m glad I’m grown up.

            • jazzlover

              LOL. I spent a lot of time in those podunk towns in the Catskills as a kid. Genny was a way for angsty teens to remain occupied 🙂 The best thing about it was the 99 cent per six pack pricing. Looking back on it, it might have been slightly overpriced 😉

            • gtsix

              Oh no you did not recommend Genny Cream. Don’t torture the man like that!

            • jazzlover

              I couldn’t help myself 🙂

            • BronxLaurie10

              I recognize this! My daughter went to SUNY Geneseo

            • jazzlover

              Is it still 99 cents a six-pack? 😉

            • BronxLaurie10

              LOL. Not sure. She graduated years ago and she was never a beer drinker.

  • Jack99

    Duke = Dan [F5]

  • George Layton

    Mr. Dan Sherman, I would like to inquire about your meaning of the word, “Word”, in the beginning of Genesis, if you please.

    • Robert Eckert
      • Qbird

        I have to go harvest some laundry right at this very moment.
        will anoint my flow & fold the thingys too.

        • Robert Eckert

          Word!

          • Liberated

            You just remember when you match up and fold those socks, they still need to be told who’s the boss, they’ll screw ya every time if ya don’t .

          • Liberated

            Where do you find this crazy stuff? Now all I’m gonna do the rest of the day is do religious dirty laundry jokes. Jesus Christ !
            Pray for me man.

      • Liberated

        Oh no, I feel so bad I cursed out every bath towel I took out of the dryer and folded last night.
        I’m so ashamed.

      • DoveAlexa

        Today I learned that bullshit stoner talk is called ‘anointing’.

        • Qbird

          ha! funny ~ stoner cat ~

    • Commodore H. McCringleberry

      Are we ripping open the whole “logos” can of worms? I remember taking a class on this in college, where the septuagint translation and the Gospel of John were analyzed against each other. Strangely, I forgot what the conclusion was, but I can guarantee it split some hairs.

  • Baby

    Kyle Brennan…We will make it happen for you sweetheart. Victoria.. You are in the Bunker Hearts.. f5

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Mornin ‘ love!

      • Baby

        Hi honey! xo

  • jazzlover

    Staying with the Genesis theme, this is Dan’s true intention:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gQkiqQ7zZBQ

  • Mrs. V.

    Dan Sherman must be a terrible conversationalist. I wouldn’t want to imagine the answer to “Hey Dan, how’s it going?”

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      It is salubrious, nay, auspicious, which is not to say a mere pipe dream of joy, but the serious and altogether actuality of basking in the fortuity of joy without mention of any diminution of the experience by lesser complex emotional excursion or encounters with spiritual essence robbing obstacles such as the flying fists of tiny tyrants thrown in tantrum to the tympan of my abdominal constituent. How sir, and likewise your prefered gender nomenclature, does your present experience dispose itself?

      • Mrs. V.

        BWAAHAHAHAHA! That’s pretty awesome. But in real life, I think I’d have a glazed look and respond, “Um….I’m….fine?”

      • Am I right in thinking that you had to listed to Sherman-speak a lot, at one time?

        • Mrs. V.

          He sure has a talent for it, doesn’t he?

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Ah, my soul child, wit, once graced my existence and brightened my days, until my divorce from reality. Now I share custody.

      • DoveAlexa

        Does he write paperback romance novels too?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Hahaha! Brilliant 😀

    • Liberated

      Let’s not even talk about the “mullet”, we need to cut the poor fella just a tad of slack.

      • Mrs. V.

        I don’t know. It’s difficult to cut any slack to a person with a self-inflicted mullet in 2016.

        • ExCult.Jan

          There’s 2016 in, and there’s 2016 out.

      • DoveAlexa

        No, we must cut the mullet.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Dan Sherman’s words, whether written or spoken, whether spoken by himself or someone else, whether reality or $cientology delusion, are all WASTED WORDS in the end.

    ‘Wasted words’ is a song I remember from the Flower Power period:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cIdwNo7HJ4A

    • jazzlover
      • ReallyMGM

        Saw Gregg a couple of weeks ago. He was in decent shape. However he has one of the best bands I have heard in forever. The audience was disappointing. Girl next to me when we were leaving said, “I only recognized one song that guy sang. Still don’t know who he is.” Wanted to punch her.

        • jazzlover

          Keep it cool, MGM 😉 What was she doing there I wonder?

          Things go ok today?

          • ReallyMGM

            She was with a group a of friends who talked through the entire concert, none knew who he was. Awful. I’m finding this typical concert behavior of late. Was same at Heart.
            Things were ok. Painful. But fun due to Xanax and versed. Didn’t post due to effects of both…was a complete fool. Downside…don’t think nerve block worked.

            • jazzlover

              That sucks…….on both counts. I hope you feel better soon 🙂 They need to invent a device that powers down cell phones of all those around you at concerts and such. Sort of like a ray gun 😉

            • ReallyMGM
            • jazzlover

              Killer stuff! My older sis was at one of those famous Fillmore East shows. I tried to get tix to see them during their last stand at the Beacon, but couldn’t snag ’em.

            • ReallyMGM

              I knew if anyone would appreciate it it would be you!

            • jazzlover

              You as well, no?

            • ReallyMGM

              Of course. My best friend was friends with the band back in the day. He hung out with in Macon backstage and has priceless photos. He was friends with Gregg during the Cher days. I wish there was IM here cause the stories are priceless and hysterical.

            • jazzlover

              Oh yeah. I remember you mentioning him before.

            • ReallyMGM

              Here is story about Fillmore, you might already know:
              ABB was opening for Johnny Winter…had a bomb scare…clear the venue…was 2 am when they let people back in…Johnny said he wasn’t playing …so ABB played from 2 am until 7 or 8 am.

            • jazzlover

              Yeah, I knew they played some lonnnnnnnnnnnnnnng shows. The Fillmore was famous for that. I’ve heard stories, but it closed down before I was old enough to go there. It was in a really horrible neighborhood which was pretty much run by the Hell’s Angels back then. Of course, now it’s all gentrified.

            • ReallyMGM

              My friend wasn’t there. He was just a college kid (think Cameron Crowe with a camera following southern rockers). His stories of being a PA to another musician are wild, too. (Lunch with the entire “Rat Pack” in Vegas, green room at Carson show) He was a guard student at USC and later a comedy screenwriter. I stay on his ass to write a book!!!

            • jazzlover

              Hey, look where it got Cameron Crowe! He even got to marry Nancy Wilson. (Bet your hubby’s jealous 🙂 )

            • ReallyMGM

              She did the kick-ass music track for Almost Famous. Sadly they divorced several years ago. No, my husband isn’t jealous of my friend at all.

            • jazzlover

              I meant jealous of Crowe. You’ve spoken of his Heart fandom 🙂

            • ReallyMGM

              Laughing. Totally misunderstood!

            • jazzlover

              Must’ve been the meds 😉

            • MadisonAgain

              I’m sorry to hear about the possibility the nerve block failed. It sucks when you get your hopes all up and the nothing. Sometimes, tho’, it can take a day or so and I’ve had pain flares before the block takes effect. I’m crossing my fingers for you.

            • ReallyMGM

              Thx for the encouragement. I’m down right now. It’s been five+ years of various types of blocks and meds.

            • MadisonAgain

              My sympathies to you. Have you tried marijuana? People keep suggesting it to me, including my neurologist who told me I should move to someplace where it was legal.

  • Aha! No wonder the Yarralinda School needs so much money per student while spending pennies: They’re “paying off a loan” from Church of Scientology! Wait, no, they loaned money to Scientology. Or something…

    School denies Scientology deal March 23, 2011, Jewel Topsfield, WA Today

    • Kestrel

      I had to look up “spruik.”

      Edit: Most of my sentence vanished.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    I’m ecstatic to see the fundraiser for Kyle’s headstone so close to its target! Imagine not being able to do that for your child. Anyone who says the Bunker has an agenda, well this is it: we form a safety net underneath the people we care about, whether we know them personally or not.

    Good luck to Tom who has allowed us to be part of Ellie’s life since she was tiny. She is a source of delight for so many and Tom is a credit to fathers everywhere. If anyone needed an excuse to join Facebook, the daily Ellie updates are it 🙂

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Anyone know how Fred is fairing?

      • He exceeded his total.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          How is he doing personally? Is he in good spirit?

          • I am not sure. From what he has posted he lost his living quarters due to a dispute with another tenant. I wouldn’t imagine his spirits were very high right now with everything going on. I’ve only met Fred once so we aren’t confidantes. He has a Facbook account through, that he’s relatively active on if you want to add him.

            • Robert Eckert

              It’s the other guy who couldn’t stay there any more. Friday is supposed to be the hearing, let us hope it is not postponed.

            • According to his Facebook post, the place where he is living has a policy that if there is a disturbance caused by two tenants they evict both of them.

            • Robert Eckert

              I missed that.

    • flyonthewall

      No offense but the Bunker is really the lamest cult ever. We don’t have a compound. Never had a standoff w/the govt. The koolaid is cyanide and sugar free. I mean, wtf are we doing here anyway??

      • Liberated

        Yeah, but we don’t take no shit from our laundry!

      • Rasha

        …I have an idea for a pamphlet – does that help? It’s not really that good, yet, but it’s… well, no.. it’s not that good… nevermind.

        • flyonthewall

          no don’t say that, you should do it. You always have really good ideas about stuff and junk to be like…better and doing things…you know?

          • Rasha

            I… I just want…. I just want this cult to get off the ground, ya know? I just know we can do it, if only we can stop… you know… thinking!! I’ll do my best! And I’ll be sure to cast any recognition onto the True Leader!! I shall, Fly!! I shall!!!!!

            …oooooh, how about socks? Good idea?

      • John McGhee

        And we’re being regged like fuck 😀 😀 hur hur (i-Betty™)

        • flyonthewall

          ….

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Hur hur McGhee 😛

          x

    • It’s all good… almost there https://www.gofundme.com/25tjpuvw

    • What a fucking piece of shit his father is, that he just left Virginia alone to deal with the death of her son. In the meantime he’s probably smoking blunts with Denise. Fucking asshole.

  • aquaclara

    I meant to comment about the stories earlier, but that funny Mullet Genesis stuff distracted me.

    Glad to hear that Fred made his goal. I missed this last week, and of course hope he does well in court. He doesn’t deserve the grief and the threats from Scientology, and just by taking this on, he is taking one for the team. Good luck to you, Fred.

    Tom DeVocht’s story is also a heart-breaker. His baby is so sweet; wishing him all the best as he fights through this. I hope the tradition that started with Claire and Marc Headley continues, for those who can give.

    Victoria, and Kyle. My heart weeps. I hope Victoria finds the peace she deserves after all of this.

    Judges, take note here, ok, of the huge amount of grief, misery and abuse here has been heaped on folks because of Scientology, the tax-dodging organization that hasn’t said a prayer for anything good ever. I’m damn sick of it. Please remember this when you see Fred or Laura or anyone else in court because of these fiends.

  • Oh sod it—hangover or not, couldn’t resist the temptation to have a fresh go at Dan, Dan, the boilerplate man. (Renew rolling contract with world’s worst public speaker):

    • Qbird

      Oh lordy, what a hairdo!
      ~ found this comic the other day noodling around, on Mother Hubbard:

      • Snortle! 🙂

        • Qbird

          Imagine the sheer weight of it all!
          Too many places for BTs to hide too.

          U make me snortle, snicker~snort, hur~hur & lol so often, why it’s a delight!

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Hilarious! I was just trying to remember some of the fantastical past lives that I made up/recalled during my own auditing experiences way back in the day, but most of them seem to have vanished from memory again, just as dreams do upon awakening;)

        I was listening to some of the interviews that Jeffrey Augustine had done on his great Surviving Scientology podcast series the other day and came across one that he’d done with former C-orgy, Aaron Smith-Levin, who’d been in that cult within a cult as a teen. In it, Aaron recounted an anecdote about how he and many other of his same-age peers had found a way to get up the bridge the fast way by attesting to having gone Clear in their last lifetime! Totally ingenious and very popular too, it seems.

        As I was listening to it, I was literally laughing out loud as I recalled how I too had had that very same cognition and made it up the bridge on the ‘express elevator’ to Clear. As a staff member in the Co$ Sacramento org in the mid-70’s neither I nor any of my fellow staff members were going up the bridge very quickly at all. But when word leaked out that folks had attested to having gone past life Clear, well, let’s just say that it must have reminded a whole lot of us of what we’d forgotten and thereby saved us a whole lot of time and expense too 😉

        The funniest thing about that very convenient cognition was that I was completely convinced at the time of the veracity of my recall and was in no way, shape or form aware that I’d expediently implanted my own false memory. I was all F/N VGIs, drinks-all-around happy and stayed that way for quite awhile.

        Humans, ya just gotta love’m! They’ll believe almost any damn thing, and especially when they make it up and tell it to themselves 😉

        • George Layton

          How about if you were to recall in between lives just before you entered a new born and let them know you had searched and searched until you found a newborn that was BTless? Could you go straight to OTVIII?

          • Harpoona Frittata

            Hell YES! Now you’re talkin’ 😉

            Speaking of BTs, what about the fate of all of those poor exorcised and thoroughly confused beings that get pried off of you during OaTy processing!!? Doesn’t seem very kind or compassionate to just turn them lose without getting them on the Bridge (to Financial Ruination), does it?

        • 3feetback-of-COS

          that’s what all cons depend on!

          • Harpoona Frittata

            So true, but few have a better line of bullshit to manipulate you around then the “Return to native state super powers and awaken to your immortality” meme than the Co$ ! For sheer over-the-top hype, it’s difficult to imagine anything more extravagant than that one 😉

        • TheTurtleOrTheCroc?

          eeeee

    • Observer

      Jan Crouch, is that you?

      • Or Tammy Faye Bakker?

        • Observer

          Jan was the one with the big pink wigs. He’d need a whole lot more mascara to be TF.

        • daisy

          Happy belated birthday Mark. Discus was making it hard to post yesterday. I am glad you had fun.

          • Thanks, Daisy 🙂 Diqsuk has been acting very oddly lately; it even bounced me off the site and onto a “we’re working on the fault” page briefly yesterday >:(

  • OT: Crawling my way into the social media of Google+ i noticed a high presence of $ios – https://plus.google.com/u/0/s/scientology/top

    So i appeal to those who has the time to build up your Google+ account to give them resistance – just like on twitter and Facebook

  • DoveAlexa

    My edit to the uk narconon entry on google maps went through! f5
    I couldn’t re-catagorize it, so I added ‘Scientology:’ to the beginning of it’s title.

    • Baby

      f5

    • Can we just call it a Land kill?

    • I tried to re-categorise it, and failed too. I wish I had though of adding “Scientology”.
      That edit really does make it “a better, more useful map”

      • DoveAlexa

        I felt a bit like I was going to get in trouble for out right editing a title, but some little fairy in google liked the cut of my jib, I guess :D.

        • This kind of thing can only be assessed by Google’s small number of staff members… so that’s probably about it.

          Well done!

          • DoveAlexa

            Now I’m more curious about how high on the priority list this was, and how big the edits list was, in order for this to have gone through so fast. I was expecting this to take far far longer.

            • I suspect that Google let most edits go through without examination, and leave it to the business owner to both notice and object if somebody makes unwarranted edits.

              After all, Google Maps offers the ability to post images on the assumption that people will use it to help others find places. They didn’t expect to caught in a conflict between the CofS and activists who oppose them.

              The advantage presently seems to be with us, because it takes a long longer for Scientology to notice and get changes reversed than it takes us to make them. For example, Plymouth Org is no longer listed as ‘Permanently Closed’ but Billy Drummond’s ‘Scientology: Slave Labour’ sign is still there is the images.

              I still think honest reviews are the way to go, because there are no grounds for Scientology to ask for them to be removed, and this is not in Google’s interest. In the meantime… it’s all fun.

  • Observer

    Earlier on the time track…

    F5

    • Oh F*** you’ve done it again.

  • I like this one F5 from here https://www.gofundme.com/25tjpuvw

    • What did you like? The 25$ or the heart…i know

      • the name

        • 🙂
          You know she writes a great dog book. 277?

  • Captain MustSavage

    Why is Tom de Vochts need for funds for a personal, non Scientology related issue the headline story on this blog? This community has been incredibly impressive at rising to the challenge when people are in need but there is such a thing as compassion fatigue and the call for funds, particularly for non Scientology related issues is a fast track to that IMHO.

    I’m sorry for Toms trouble but I’ll be saving my contributions for awareness raising endeavours like Phil and Willies billboard and for the defence of those under fair game.

    • Observer

      It’s there for people who want to contribute, not to make those who don’t or can’t feel guilty. He’s a courageous ex who has spoken out at great cost. He deserves help, IMO, and I’m glad the opportunity has been given.

      • Captain MustSavage

        This community is fantastically supportive but it’s also made up of human beings and they get compassion fatigue when overloaded with calls for help. My concern is that the level of support for a Scientology related issue may drop at some point in the future if this blog keeps putting forward non Scientology related issues needing help and that would be a real shame.

        Re Toms issue, personally am not comfortable contributing to a family court issue without knowing anything at all about the background and knowing that women are usually already disadvantaged in courts as a result of their lower financial means.

  • BosonStark

    GENESIS, first draft.
    “In the beginning, in point of fact, specifically and
    summarily, thereafter and in sequence…”

    • Commodore H. McCringleberry

      moreover,

  • edge

    In the beginning, God said specifically and summarily, ‘Let there be business in the front’. And in point of fact, he said it was good. Thereafter and in sequence on the second day, God said ‘Let there be a party in the back’. And thus the mullet was born out of effect, and God said it was good.

  • Jimmy3

    In Sherman’s version of Exodus, Moses and his people won their freedom through unrelenting litigation. The plagues were actually just stacks and stacks of legal motions.

    • edge

      And they wandered the desert looking for the nearest Ideal Org.

      • Liberated

        And not one of them had toilet paper.

  • Liberated

    I’m still confused, I know this is a really stupid question, but is Mr. Sherman claiming he wrote Genesis of the bible or wrote songs for the band Genesis with Phil Collins?
    Man, I’d hate to be the judge in that court case.

  • Jimmy3

    In Sherman’s version of Genesis, the animals on Noah’s Ark were cast overboard if they were so much as flirting with each other. You’re here to work, donkey. Not to screw.

    • Funny Jimmy 🙂

  • Jimmy3

    In Sherman’s version of Genesis, there was no Cain and Abel. Just Abel and More Abel.

    • Liberated

      That was pretty good, believe me it galls me to give you props.

      • Jimmy3

        I would ask why if I gave a shit.

        • DoveAlexa

          Why are you still naked?

          • Jimmy3

            I’m not. I have gone exterior.

            • DoveAlexa

              Well then, why is your ghost naked?

            • flyonthewall

              f5 for ghost dick pic

            • Rasha

              oooOOOOOOOooooooooo!!!!! SaaammmAAANNNTTTHHhhhaaaa…..

            • Well.. when lrh raped my soul. took me a long time to get out. Thanks to all you guys opening you/our hearts.

      • flyonthewall

        why does it gall you to give him props?

        • Liberated

          I’ve already told him I thought he was cute, what do want from me. Geez,
          Cut me some slack man. I didn’t want it to go to his head ( yeah I know walked right into it)

          • flyonthewall

            i was just curious what u meant is all

  • Liberated

    It’s only 2:11 in the afternoon, and I’m already beginning to lose it.
    Hey Tony how many days did it really take for you to create the bunker?
    Don’t even try to pull off that one day of rest crap.

    • He has healed more then we will ever know. It’s 11:29a hear.

      • jazzlover

        You west coasters need to find a way to catch up 🙂

  • edge

    Rome wasn’t built in a day. It took many days and many, many people upgrading their IAS statuses. Caesar was a Humanitarian Maximus Supremus.

    • Robert Eckert

      Brutus was from the CMO (Caesar Messenger Organization)

  • nottrue

    The Unnamed Pharaoh from Sherman’s Genesis…The one who was after Abraham’s wife Sarah

    • jazzlover

      Thanks for that 🙂

    • thetastic

      Holy shit, is that Cardone?

    • kemist

      Dear lord.

      I hope no one was eating.

    • fits his pyramid-scheme

    • madame duran

      Nooooooooooo….I was having such a good day!

  • flyonthewall
    • thetastic

      That judge was such a dummy. He’s going to take forever to find.

      • flyonthewall

        neh. Next time he uses his EBT foodstamp card they’ll know right where he is.

        edited to keep it general as EBT is MO’s foodstamp program

        • thetastic

          He’s not going to buy a goddamned thing himself. The fawning masses will take care of him for sure. FLDS is hella scary.

          • flyonthewall

            yeah i know he’s not going to buy it himself, the taxpayers will cuz he’s a foodstamp fraudster!

            • Jimmy3

              “Hey, umm, I only have like half my EBT credits because my ex-roommate’s girlfriend sold them, but, like.. could I maybe just, like… buy a bunch of food and you give me cash for it? Or would you get in trouble for that? I don’t want to get you in trouble.”

              “Nah, that should be alright. I’ve actually never been to prison yet. Looking forward tho.”

              This is a real conversation I had once. No joke.

            • flyonthewall

              so did he give you cash for the food or…?

            • Jimmy3

              We got so high and ate so many Doritos that I completely forgot about the cash

            • Rasha

              “…hey, real quick – you got two twenties for a ten?” Yeah, I haven’t tried that outside of family, but if you time it just right…..

            • flyonthewall

              Rasha be griftin’

            • Rasha

              Well, not prophetably…..

            • gtsix

              Back when I was still a young teen, I was at a fast food restaurant and sat there watching a guy use this scam on the manager. Guy must have walked away with 100$ easy. I would have said something… but the manager was a dick to me & my friends.

            • ithilien

              No surprise

            • ithilien

              Still no surprise

            • Jimmy3

              what?

    • Jimmy3

      “I ain’t going back!! I ain’t going back to the pan!!!”

    • Supper Powers

      Why isn’t this surprising? Criminals with billions of dollars do these things, judge.

  • flyonthewall

    Colonel Sanders endorses Clinton. Says her fried chicken is as good as anyone’s and you should all try a bite

    • beauty for ashes

      I like Hillary, but I don’t believe you. I bet she makes a great tofu scramble though.

      • thetastic

        Pass the KFC!
        Pass the KFC!

    • ithilien

      Did you know tha tcornel sanders stole the steam technique ( its not fried) used to cook the chicken from his former employer and got away with it?

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    In the beginning there was Ron and Ron created the Tech
    And Ron did droneth on and on ceaselessly for billions of words
    Giving even advice on how to wash cars and clean windows

    Seeing his works flourish and prosper
    Ron ascended to Target Two vowing never to return to this
    Psych-infested Wog planet and its rancid tacos

    Whereupon, David Miscavige came up from Hell and called the Tech altered
    Whereupon the Children of Ron were forced to buy new papyrus libraries in abundance
    so that their garages and spare bedrooms were stacked ceiling high with libraries

    And then David Miscavige said that new Orgs were needed
    Whereupon the Children of Ron were forced to donate to Ideal Orgs
    Or lose their OT eligibility and eternity

    And the stats they did crash internationally
    The Ideal Orgs did stay as empty as space itself and gathered only dust
    And David Miscavige grew wroth and did blame others

    David Miscavige did beat unrighteous Sea Org members
    and threw them into prisons
    Then oceans of Macallan he did drink down

    The sycophants surrounding Miscavige clamored
    And they did tell him that SP’s and Psychs were to blame
    Thus, Miscavige a Super Bowl ad did purchase

    But even this did fail as did GAT I and GAT II
    And it was all a failure and the Wogs did laugh
    And moving pictures were made that exposed Miscavige

    Miscavige smote his breast and swore in his wrath
    That the release of OTIX and OTX would finally boom the Orgs
    And handle the fourth dynamic engram

  • thetastic

    I will preface this comment by saying I am in no way bothered to hear someone passed along that Sherman thinks he wrote Genesis, as Sherman, in my opinion, is open to any and all mocking. But the fact that this is passed along does make me think about something I sometimes reflect on, here at the bunker. That is, the fact that we almost never hear about who people thought they were in past lives. I’m sure there are a ton of funny stories out there that people could pass along, and I’ve always respected that the ex-auditors in our community have chosen to respect the privacy that was implied in their sessions; despite the temptation to make fun of some of these folks now. Particularly in the case of Tom Cruise and the like, it must be really tempting to out some of their crazier thoughts, and as much as I’d love to read those and laugh about them, mad props to those resisting passing those secrets along.
    Anyway, back to mocking the mullet!

    • I posted just a day before Jon Atack’s piece on past lives last year, I think it was, that one of the things that I really resented about my time in the cult was that they got me to believe in past lives. Yes, I was that space pirate captain, suffered a horrible death by being disintegrated for my sins. I was that bonnie prince leading a rebellion, who got sore finger-ends from learning to play harp. I was that female sea pirate with the breeze blowing through my long, luscious locks. What a waste of fucking time and effort that was, and I humbly apologize to myself for being such an asshole,

      • dungeon master

        After mother took us to see Darby O’Gill and the Little People (at the drive in lol) I spent the rest of the night terrified the banshee was coming to get me – in Michigan) I invented a complicated set of rules about falling asleep before midnight or I had to be diligently awake til one so the witches and banchees, and the monster under the bed, couldn’t get me. I also spent many a night trying to wrap my head around the infinity of space, and agonizing over the torments of hell. My point being scientologist isn’t the only way to get your head, er.. messed with. And what an impressive imagination you have. Even if it was exploited by villains, oh the stories are priceless. ML dungeon edit auto correct.

    • You mean in the 4 hours since this comment no one fessed up!!!??? I’m Astounded. But I’m sad cause I have one 🙂

  • beauty for ashes

    I forgot why I made this, but it seems oddly apropos . mullets and all you know. I think Davey should rock a mullet, it makes him look taller. 🙂 F5

    • Rasha

      Regges with Wolves

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Or Reggerworld.

    • chukicita

      HAAAA—haHAAAhAHAAAA BWAAAAAA-HAHaahaha OOooooOOO *wipes eyes* hahaa haaaaaa!

      • beauty for ashes

        you know you think he’s sexy! 😉

        • chukicita

          LOL! I know *he* thinks he is.

    • flyonthewall

      that’s actually kinda boss. He just needs an REO Speedwagon t-shirt, a scraggly beard and a missing tooth or two

      • beauty for ashes

        I remember dirtying up his face and IIRC I think I kinda darkened a tooth or two. He needs a big Eagles jersey I think.

        • flyonthewall

          oh yeah I can see that, the unshaven moustache/chin and by the eyebrow I see some smudging. Very subtle, nice job

          • beauty for ashes

            billy ray cyrus was my muse.

            • Liberated

              Now ya tell me.

    • Observer

      He looks like Joe Dirt. VWD!

      • beauty for ashes

        Thank you!!!! ***beams with happiness*** I have a few things in my file, I made and either didn’t think were finished or good enough. I just found them while organizing my bunker file. Oi vey!

    • if only he were wearing a fluorescent orange tank top and wrap around Oakley shades. this is pretty much exactly how Dog The Bounty Hunter looked when I was pumping gas next to him in Valencia about a year ago.

      • jazzlover

        Yo, brodda 😉 Shoulda axed him to take you to Hawaii.

        • aiight, bruv! Scientology sure could use more of that majestic Ho’oponopono.

          “In Hawaii, we have something called Ho’oponopono, where people come together to resolve crises and restore peace and balance.”
          -Duane Chapman

          • jazzlover

            Dude’s definitely a trip! My son has convinced me to watch that show on occasion. He seems to have a heart somewhere inside all that brawn.

      • flyonthewall

        right b4 he tased you and threw you in the trunk of his car

        • he cranked Bohemian Rhapsody the whole time so it wasn’t that bad… at first. by the 3rd hour I was ready to cleanse the ol’ ear palates w/ Jefferson Starship’s We Built This City, tho.

    • Liberated

      The only thing better would be standing next to his idiot twin sister, and she’s sportin’ the mullet too.

    • kemist

      In my place a haircut like that is called a “Coupe Longueuil”.

      Longueuil being a suburb of Montreal that has the reputation of having kept a end 80s / early 90s decor, complete with inhabitants.

  • Vaquera

    Cincinnati I am in you.

    • Rasha

      Please tell the org that I am no longer interested in their mailings. That was 3 freakin’ decades ago…

      • Vaquera

        Unfortunately, is just a layover. Otherwise I’d be there for ya’ Rasha.

      • JJ

        Thought of something for this. My grandmother has been dead nine years and still gets letters asking for money from various associations. What if you started asking for your money back from Scientology, would they make like they never knew you?…might be worth a shot.

        • Rasha

          Ha, no. Happily, if I recall rightly, I gave a $30 donation and only took a “personality test”, back in the ’80s. Since then, I have moved through several states, had like, a hundred different phone numbers and email addresses, just as a normal process of life, and honestly, I think they just send this crap to everyone with my first and last name.

          I managed to stop the phone calls, so I should just be happy with the fireplace fuel they send, that burns so colorfully….

  • I appreciate every one who speaks out. Grouse garn you guy’s. Just get out and talk. like they told us when we believed and stepped into TR 0.

  • Jimmy3

    Adam: Listen, 2D-Pootie, I know you love the Garden. But God says you were way out-exchange on that apple deal, and we really have to blow.

    Eve: So where will we go?

    Adam: I don’t know yet. God says if we can raise the funds ourselves, we can buy and renovate an Ideal Eden. He’ll still own it, of course, but we can rent it from him in exchange for uplines fees.

    Eve: And how are we going to do that? It’s only us here. There are no funds. There are no people.

    Adam: No, Eve! No! The other Edens are booming! We are just doing something wrong. We are pulling this in.

    Eve: We aren’t pulling anything in, Adam. That’s the point. This whole thing really seems like a scam.

    Adam: Oh, there it is! Always with the entheta! You know God told me after he clay demo’d you that he thought you might be PTS? He was right.

    Eve: Please. Just think about it, Adam. What kind of God has a diploma from Sequoia University hanging in his motorhome?

    Adam: That’s enough! I’ve heard enough from you!

    [Adam gets down and begins writing in the sand. Eve rolls her eyes]

    Eve: Yeah, yeah. You and your stupid knowledge reports are what got us kicked out in the first place, you idiot.

    • Fun fact: If God made Eve out of Adam’s bone, then Eve had XY chromosomes and therefore was also a man.

      • Jimmy3

        Not that there’s anything wrong with that.

        • It’s so right you don’t even know.

      • flyonthewall
        • Jimmy3

          I’m sold. I believe it.

          • flyonthewall

            your easy conversion wouldn’t have anything to do with the rest of the theory being that men are meant to be sex slaves of women would it?

            • Jimmy3

              Genetic mutants aren’t always classy.

            • flyonthewall

              but they are always horny.

            • flyonthewall

              why mutants be so horny?? *shrug*

        • Liberated

          Thats actually true, there’s a group called SCUM– society for cutting up men.
          In fact there’s a movie, forget the name, It’s the girl that shot Andy Warhol, her name was Valerie Solanas.
          SCUM was her creation–it’s now considered a manifesto.

          • flyonthewall

            that was a good movie. I like when she was screaming about yellow turds and blue turds etc.

          • Stephanie Loving

            SCUM had a very disturbing manifesto. Deluded and pretty creepy. And boy howdy mad as hell and she’s not gonna take it anymore. Yikes.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SCUM_Manifesto

            • Liberated

              I never meant to imply Ms. Solanas was not a pretty sad depraved person.
              She lived her life as a homeless person, and died on the streets.

            • flyonthewall

              It was I Shot Andy Warhol and whole thing is on youtube

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhUQTzmfWQk

            • Liberated

              I really did like that movie and the actress who played her (drawing a blank right now) but the lady above seemed to infer I was ok /violence which I am not.
              Ya know man, just between you and I do you think people get a little too serious around here ? I can’t help but think so. Sometimes the most benign joke gets turned into something that it was not meant to be.
              I’ve learned to tamper down my comments , and have learned to ask myself questions first, is that funny or is that just something I should keep to myself. I’m still working on it and I think it’s fair to say I’ve learned from my mistakes. Only 3 mos to go before I get my 1 year chip.
              See even the comment about 1 year chip, I’m afraid might offend someone. If an outlet of humor to defeat the pain of the cult that all of us have suffered in one way or another begins to be so much work, doesn’t that kinda defeat the whole purpose?
              Maybe it’s time to go do some holy and sacred laundry. And pray for socks.

            • flyonthewall

              I don’t think she meant anything but to offer her opinion on the book. Sometimes it’s hard to read people online and there are misunderstandings etc. Everything is ok. You’re ok. I’m ok. We’re all ok

            • Stephanie Loving

              You didn’t Lib ;o) I just hadn’t heard that name in yearrrrrs. I wrote a paper on SCUM in college. Crazy people in crisis. With, as it so often turns out, very sad endings.

        • I wonder if that’s like the scientific definition of ‘theory’ or the ‘i’m so dumb because I didn’t understand the 8th grade science class’ definition.

        • Fly Lady

          I have a theory that your office smells like polygrip and cat pee.

          • flyonthewall

            TONY!! FLY LADY’S BEING MEAN TO ME!!

            You’re gonna be in so much trouble now

            • MadisonAgain

              Are we going to have to separate you two?

        • ze moo

          Sexual reproduction goes back more than 400 million years. And Lron wasn’t around to screw that up, he was still racing ’49 Chevys in the Andromeda Galaxy. Or so I’ve heard.

      • gtsix

        Pffft, are you saying an omnipotent god figure wouldn’t have taken that into consideration? Silly lad, Lilith added in the extra line bit to make the Y and X.

        the Deebil told me. Want an apple?

    • Liberated

      When I said it galled me to give you props, what I really meant is that your stuff is so funny I sometimes get a wee bit jealous that’s all.
      You oughta write some of this shit down for posterity , no joke.
      Oh alright I still think you’re cute. Now if you tell anyone I said this, I will deny it.

      • Jimmy3

        It’s all good. Didn’t mean to be rude

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      This is priceless.

    • Kim O’Brien

      my favorite bumper sticker ever that i have ever seen in my life ever ever

      ” EVE WAS FRAMED”

    • thetastic

      You win the internetz with the clay-demoed eve.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Tom DeVocht has just posted this on his FB page – F5

    • Jimmy3

      Hey, that’s the guy from the article.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Jimmy, I don’t tell you this often enough (and forgive me Nat), but I love you 🙂

        • Jimmy3

          Who cares about Nat. I hope she and teacup shoop guy are happy together. But who cares.

    • beauty for ashes

      oh no, just saw that baby’s face. gonna have to give him money! smoooshie face!!!!!

      • flyonthewall

        ….

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        She’s nearly walking, and she’s ace at basketball, and she has a smile you could lose yourself in. And she said “da” for the first time a couple of weeks ago and Tom cried. He’s experiencing the same milestones as most dads but the fact he’s sharing them all with his friends on FB, even those like me who he barely knows, with daily videos and updates has been a months-long delight and his deep joy is infectious. Tom’s wall picks up more broody women by the day 😀

        • flyonthewall

          how did she learn to say “Yes” in Russian?? She IS smart

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Oh you 😛

        • gtsix

          She is adorable. I spent some time on his page today… I just wanna pinch those cheeks! His smile is so big in every photo. What a dad.

    • ze moo

      Tom is almost halfway to the 10k mark. Go Team Go!!

  • jazzlover
  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    We’re in the Tampa Bay Times about the Clearwater billboard. Online today and in print tomorrow.

    http://www.tampabay.com/news/scientology/billboard-seeking-to-reunite-broken-scientology-families-coming-to/2285112

    • JJ

      They can tell them not to log onto the internet and not look up anything detrimental to Scientology but how are they gonna tell them NOT to look at a billboard?

      • ze moo

        Clamtown attempts to install very tight blinders in all its adherents. But the light gets through anyway.

        It takes a lot more than a t-shirt to make a ‘coolest religion’. And $cientology will never attain that outside of their own little bubble.

      • MadisonAgain

        Well, they did do that “turn your back” thing at the SMP opening. Maybe they’ll make them all walk backwards?

        • JJ

          I can literally see this being done, I see women in pant suits and men with ties on some carrying purses or documents, all walking backwards in the street to avoid seeing a billboard then spinning to face forward and enter the building, event etc. Like watching a film in my head backwards. crazy but entertaining and some how symbolic…

    • This is a screenshot from my Media-links on the L.A Billboard and now this Clearwater Billboard. So let’s see how many this one will collect F5

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        The Spanish one in the middle was from a BBC/Mundo article that went all down through Mexico and even into Chile.

        • ze moo

          Latin America needs some waking up. Do we have any Spanish speakers who can cover that beat?

          • Sid (Phil Jones)

            I have a contact at BBC/Mundo. I’ll see if we can get another article going.

      • OMG had no idea! Thank you for the good new info.

        • 🙂 it’s impressive and it’s not all. Those are just a fraction of what i have been able to collect. Try google on “stopscientologydisconnection”

    • Glen

      Of all the excellent press stories about the billboard, I think this is my favorite. The tone and content of the article seem just right, capturing the heartbreak and the humanity while clearly delineating the facts. $cientology is a very cruel system to have this awful practice of breaking up families as such a pillar of their existence. Phil, you have turned into a down to earth yet eloquent spokesperson. Thank you for mustering the love, courage and perseverance.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        Glen,
        Thank you for your kind words but I just answer questions. I think the credit can go to the intelligent and perceptive Tampa Bay Times reporter Tracey McManus.
        -Phil

        • Glen

          Kudos to her as well.

    • ze moo

      Tracey McManus did a very good job of telling the story. Nice to see Tobin and Childs have equally good replacements.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        Tracey has the Clearwater beat and has written on Scientology previously.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I’m so happy the TBT has picked this up. I think we’re all looking forward to the official statement – if it ever comes.

      “Although they’ve been unsuccessful in reuniting their family, Jones said their efforts have led to the creation of a support network that has brought some level of comfort.” We love you guys.

    • aquaclara

      Great work, Phil and Willie! Catching up on the comments here, and just want to wish you both much luck with this. And a ^^^to what Shorpy says about taking good care of yourselves amid all this.

      I hope that phone rings soon.

      Hugs to you both. You’re making a difference.

  • RK

    With all that is going on in the world and especially recent events, Scientology is silent, focused in on itself and living in the past. It is an organization that is irrelevant in today’s world. I’m sure that most Sea Org staff have no idea of what happened in Orlando, or dismissed it in a cloud of homophobia.

  • Baby, where are you? E-mail me pls! dmanunderground at gmail dot com

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I’ll buzz her with your email addie 🙂

      • Thank you! You’re a sweeheart! :-*

  • Dummy Dan Sherman has been republishing some of his old books on Amazon as paperbacks. Expensive covers – must be using cult lucre to get that done. One of them is a novel about Mata Hari that, when it came out, he said Babs Streisand was interested in. https://www.amazon.com/Man-Who-Loved-Mata-Hari/dp/0917657276/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1468363508&sr=1-24 (this is the 1985 hardcover, the paperback is dated 2014 on Amazon). Another thing he tried to get me to believe was that he’d been Mata Hari’s husband Dutch Colonial Army Captain Rudolf MacLeod. (He didn’t mention the name, just grinned and intimated.) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mata_Hari Here’s a bit from that page – “MacLeod appears to have been an alcoholic who would take out his frustrations on his wife, who was twenty years younger and whom he blamed for his lack of promotion.” Sounds a lot like Elwrong Humbug, so maybe Dummy Dan was right – that would help explain his affinity for the redheaded liar, misogynists of a feather.

    • flyonthewall

      ….

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    I think this video Steve Jones made of his last IAS event at St Hill in 2007 really captures the low-level panic accompanying these events.

    https://youtu.be/hNVNvx7F–k

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Well, here we are 9 years later, and this cult continues to shrink into oblivion and has become a toxic brand, and has become the laughingstock of the world.

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Scientology just had our daughter Emily write directly to the Tampa Bay Times refuting everything we are saying. Do they think this will stop us? Why wouldn’t they just have her contact us directly? Isn’t that why we’re doing this in the first place? Just makes me more determined.

    Edit to add: The email basically says we’re money motivated (a standard Scientology line) and that the fund raiser was a scam for money. Pretty lame Scientology retort. How the heck did we pay for both billboards if we ran off to Cancun with the money?

    • Peace and blessings to you.
      She will snap out of it. This I believe.
      The more they have her do extreme stuff, the more likely.

    • mirele

      You’re getting to them, Phil. This is a big *sign* (heh heh) that your sign is a huge problem for Scientology. Keep up the good work! I believe your daughter will eventually come around.

    • Its very much like losing a son or daughter to alcohol or drug abuse.
      You do whatever you can do.
      The best you can. Because that’s all you can do.
      And you’re doing it right.
      There are resources out there.

    • Observer

      I know this must be like a knife to the heart, but all these little stunts do is confirm what you’re saying.

      I am convinced you’ll get your kids back. Love wins.

    • flyonthewall

      I’m sorry Phil

    • For the rational, no explanation is necessary.
      For the brainwashed, none is sufficient.

    • madame duran

      Scientology is 100% grade-A derp.

    • Adding one more unsolicited comment.
      Take care of yourselves.
      If you are a mess, you can’t help her.
      This is re-inforced for me everytime I take a flight.
      The instructions are, when the oxygen masks come down, to put it on you, first.
      Because, if you pass out, you can’t help your child.

    • edge

      Does she not have any idea that she’s being used? Ever since the first billboard came up she’s been put to be on TV, write letters to the media, be one of the faces of the Battlefield Earth launch, all in an effort to say “no, we’re not a secretive, vindictive, family-destroying cult”
      Oh, and I find it rich (pun intended) that the Co$ encourages members to buy mass quantities of Battlefield Earth in a vain and failed attempted to get it onto bestsellers lists accuses anyone of money scams. 20 copies X $25 each is $500 of crap fiction to ‘flow power to Source’.

    • gtsix

      Duh, you can’t. You gave the cash to me (cancun was boring, moved on to the Bahamas instead. Could use a bit more flash, work that out for me, wouldya?)

      Keep strong Phil & Willie. All respect for your fight for your kids.

      PS: ypu sure the email didn’t come from Karen pouw?

      • Juicer77

        It’s just like DM to twist the knife in the wound by making Emily do this herself. I bet you my last Kvikklunsj (ask Johnny Tank) that she wrote it under strict conditions.

    • Observer

      That’s not Emily talking.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        That is true. OSA wrote that.

    • Captain MustSavage

      Definitely an indication that Scientology is taking the power of the billboard going up in its heartland very very seriously. It knows that its members won’t be able to avoid exposure to the story. Surely some of those members will understand the pain of disconnection too. Who knows, perhaps a few more people might move to get their whole families out as a result.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Money grubbing Scientology calling someone else “money motivated” is laughably absurd.

    • Supper Powers

      Is it possible Emily hasn’t even been made aware or asked about it and OSA simply responded with her name stamped on it? No matter, you and Willie and the team are having great impact and I know one day you will be reunited with the kids.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        In most cases it’s possible they wouldn’t inform the staff member of the exact details but I think with Emily she probably knows. Not sure though. With Scientology it’s usually the worst choice of scenarios.

    • BronxLaurie10

      That’s terrible! How do these people sleep at night? And how can they have Emily refute the fact that she is not allowed to see you? They can’t deny that!! I’m so sorry you are going through this.
      And they have the nerve to talk about money making scams!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! UGH!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Yeah, because you can make a killing paying for months of billboard space in two major US cities with a well-funded cult breathing down your back. Do they even understand how money works? I’m so sorry, Phil. At some point, they will push too far and lose their grip on Emily, too. I hope you don’t have to wait too much longer…

    • iampissed

      With you Phil and Willie

    • TheMirrorThetan

      If COS thought that the billboards were just a scam for money then why did they do their best to block the first two companies you dealt with and spent thousands doing so?

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        Scientology doesn’t think any of what they wrote is true. The whole ‘in it for the money, scam, etc’ is just standard OSA/Scientology crap they issue to try (unsuccessfully) to discredit critics and whistle-blowers. I’ve seen it before. None of this was written by Emily.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          Yeah it sounds like the usual rubbish from Pouw or whatever her name is. It always backfires on them in the long run and they just cant learn from past mistakes, but they keep churning out the ridiculous lies.

    • Juicer77

      Sid, the more they push her, the more she will think about what’s really going on. She won’t be able to help it. I hope every day your phone rings. xoxo

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Knowing the dirty tricks the OSA can do, I wouldn’t trust completely that it’s from her personally. Doubt is always good in dealing with their tactics.

  • “Sherman claimed that through past-life auditing, he had discovered that he was the actual author of Genesis.

    Does he get royalties for that?”

    And if not, why not?

    As Ian Dury (RIP) might ask:
    “You think I’m wrong I think, I think you’re right
    I think I think you’re wrong
    You think I think I think
    And then again again
    And then and then
    And then and then
    Again again and then
    And then again again
    And then and then again
    Again again again
    And if not why not
    If
    And if not why why
    Why not
    And if not why not, of course it might be old
    Course it might be busy
    Being as it might be
    As it could be new.”
    Check out the cornet? the guy plays
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rEEOi-syTLs

  • Observer

    If you wade through the caps lock and horrible OT grammar and spelling, you will find that Mappin’s protégé Victoria Summer is going to be in this movie with Chris Klein, who was engaged to Katie Holmes before she dumped him in favor of the Worst Mistake of Her Life.

    F5

    • ze moo

      What do you want to bet that Victoria Summer never heard of the ‘Clamalot Castle’?

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Thoroughly appreciate “major staring roll”.

    • So what you’re saying is, “Scientology is the coolest religion”.
      Or did I misinterpret?

      • Observer

        Scientology is the droolest religion.

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      I wonder if they made Victoria Summer paint polka dots on an Aston Martin to get the money. That £50 she probably got really helped.

    • jazzlover

      I still think Katie’s life started going downhill when she picked Pacey over Dawson 😉

      • Observer

        I could never bring myself to watch that show.

        • jazzlover

          It wasn’t my favorite either. I have a friend who worked on it behind the scenes.

      • sundaygirl

        Ha! Very nice.

      • thetastic

        Dawson was tool. A rock would be better choice.

        • jazzlover

          They were both tools. She had tons of practice for Cruz 🙂

    • Someone should teach the fucktard how to unuse Caps lock.

      • Gertrudis

        You are funny, DodoTL.

    • madame duran

      Out of the blue question: Has John Mappin and John Alex Wood ever met? Can you imagine what it would be like with those two in the same room? Lordt.

      • Baby

        f5

  • Sid (Phil Jones)

    Dear Emily,
    If Scientology will allow you to write directly to a news reporter who has written articles critical of Scientology and is therefore an SP, then why won’t they allow you to contact your parents?
    Love,
    Dad

    • Captain MustSavage

      Sid, do you think there’s any chance of a follow up article in which you might be able to clarify scientologys disconnection policy further for the public? In the current article the journalist reported on scientologys official position (disconnection is a personal choice) but went no further. There is so much material out there to flesh this out – I was hoping that the article would have followed up the official statement with Tommy Davis’s previous denial that it existed at all, with a reference to the official SP handling policy.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        Don’t worry, there’s a lot more coverage coming.

        • MadisonAgain

          If there is anything I can do to help – years in marketing and editorial plus countless hours cold calling for sales – let me know. I can’t be feet on the ground but I could write, proofread, call, whatever…

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          I can hear Mike Rinder saying “Pain…..more pain” when he predicts what’s coming up for David Miscavige and Scientology.

        • Juicer77

          Really wish I could be in Clearwater with you. Will be sending your whole family all my love from across the ocean.

    • edge

      This.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      This is heart wrenching. So sorry this is your reality.

      Hope to see you in Clearwater, but not sure if real life will allow. Crossing fingers and toes.

      • Sid (Phil Jones)

        I hope to see you there.

        • Baby

          I’ll be there for sure Willie and Phil.. Can’t wait to meet you.

          The Bunker Burning Candle is always lit so that those lost can find their way back home.
          Love baby f5

          • Sid (Phil Jones)

            Thanks Baby. We are very much looking forward to meeting you as well.

            • Baby

              We’ll Get’er done.

      • chukicita

        Get there!

    • JaxNGold

      Phil, this post has me in tears. I usually consider myself a strong woman, but I honestly don’t know how I would function day after day if my son – no matter his age – was ripped from my life. Just the thought of it makes me teary. I have to tell you how much I admire your strength and determination to get your kids back. I cannot begin to imagine what you go through. You have my utmost respect.

  • Liberated

    I live in a condo building with 3 other residents. The lady upstairs is from Brazil, I don’t think I’ve ever met a more kind compassion person, the other guy upstairs has been a loyal friend and has never let me down, the people directly across the hall the mom is from Nicaragua, the dad from Mexico and their 2 kids are the most well-behaved sweet kids in the world. The lady from Nicaragua just brought me this wonderful soup and rice and vegetables, her food is the real deal.
    Now you probably wonder why I’m talking about such matters, BTW you can’t get anymore white than me. I am of the baby-boom gen. my dad landed on the beach at Normandy, I’ve even had ancestors on the Mayflower, but couldn’t get in the DAR cause they were Tories. And I apologize for my white girl ass everyday.
    The last couple years have been traumatic for me, well who helped me the dear lady from Brazil, the lady from Nicaragua, no one else but them.
    So now Trump,is in my town right now, probably getting ready to choose Pence, and he has called my neighbors worst of the worst. Called them rapist, drug dealers and worse. The Brazilian ladies daughter received 15 free rides for universities, one being U of Chicago, she’s going to IU, cause her mom wants her close. Yeah Donald real scum.
    So someone the other night asked whom they should vote for, well if you can’t decide, honey you have no business voting at all.

    • Kim O’Brien

      preach

    • jazzlover

      Well said, and yes, we will forgive your pasty white ass 😉

      • Liberated

        That was completely unnecessary.

        • jazzlover

          I was obviously teasing, based on “I apologize for my white girl ass everyday”. No need to apologize. We are who we are.

          • Liberated

            It’s really ok.

            • jazzlover

              Whew. I was tempted to tell you to do a “Johnny Tank”. Glad I didn’t. LOL

            • Liberated

              You have no idea, even other white people make fun of me.

            • Liberated

              Now, all I can think about is if I ever know that I’ll be meeting you, I’ll have to buy some kind of prosthetic ass, ( do they make such things?). Cause you’ll be staring at my concave, honky butt all night, woe is me.!

            • jazzlover

              You can just stuff a pillow down the back of your pants 😉

            • Liberated

              I’ve got some music shit I want to discuss with you , but I’m wound up right now, so later.

          • gtsix

            Cmon jazz… ya missed out on using honkey?

            weaksauce

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      I know what was said about Mexicans but what did the Donald say to offend Brazilians and Nicaraguans? Totally agree that some voters should probably sit this one out. Trump could be the beginning of the end!

      • Liberated

        You missed the entire meaning of this comment. Trump hates everyone, does it really matter if you’re Costa Rican, Argentinian, Peruvian? He might not have mentioned those countries by name , but don’t think for minute those people are exempt from his elitism and hatred of those that are not white rich men, are you a white rich man?
        He will pander to the lowest common denominator of whomever he is speaking to. He hates women blacks, and anyone who practices a faith different from his.
        I think you said something very smart, maybe you should sit this one out.

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          Whoa, both barrels right between the eyes! I’m no Trump supporter. I was just curious what bon mots he was spewing lately…thought I missed another of his precious gems. And actually I may not vote because I think they all stink. My choice, democrat Jim Webb, was cancelled early on by the sorry machine of big party money.

    • Juicer77

      I’m glad you have such great neighbors and friends. 🙂

  • Vaquera

    Minneapolis I am in you.

    • gtsix

      Grab some cheese curds in the concourse if you can! Nomnomnom

      • Vaquera

        Dang, already boarded the next flight (super quick plane change). Will make a note and catch it on the flip side. 🙂

        • gtsix

          A super quick plane change at MSP? Unpossible. Travel well boots.

          • Vaquera

            Had to boot scoot across the terminals.

    • Are you a special government agent? You travel a lot. Jk

      • Vaquera

        I thought there was a TUML book event here this evening, but then realized I was looking at last summer’s calendar.

        • Haha. Good answer. A rich lady who really likes to travel.

          • Vaquera

            Yes, Miss Lovely sure likes to travel.

            • You and my wife together would travel around the world in like less than 4 hours.

            • Vaquera

              ^^^^^ I’m already in Wisconsin now.

            • Yep. Not surprised.

            • Vaquera

              🙂

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Are you traveling in a Delorean?

    • Did you see the Idle Morgue housed in the former Science Museum of Minnesota?

    • Juicer77

      Well, well, you ARE getting around these days. 🙂

      • Vaquera

        Look who’s talking!

  • gtsix

    Just a thought on Mr. Mulletman. … in 2 or so decades at International base, how further along in his coursework do you think he is compared to Mr Sugg? And if Sugg lasts for a decade or so… do you think he’ll add hair extensions of his own? I hope we get to see Sugg writing the next opening speech… just to rock the writing boat.

    • Juicer77

      SUGG vs. Mulletman -the cage match!!!
      (And the crowd… gets up and leaves XD)

  • Now I understand!

    As a never in I’ve always been fascinated that a religion that focuses so much on past lives that adherents are reluctant to share their “memories”.

    I understand exes who may feel that those memories are bogus and don’t want to talk about it.

    I even understand members who don’t want to engage in verbal tech or, in the presence of wogs, not be inclined to share memories from other worlds.

    Dan Sherman’s claims that he was the author the book of Genesis are so easy to refute that it’s kind of fun.

    Note the following is in the context of accepting the Bible tradition and record. If that doesn’t float your boat, continue at your own potential consternation. 🙂

    1). Genesis is the first book of the Bible and the first of five books, collectively the Pentateuch, which has been attributed to Moses as author.

    2). At Exodus 4:10, Moses responded to a speaking assignment from God with the modest assessment “I am not eloquent, neither heretofore, nor since thou hast spoken unto thy servant: but I am slow of speech, and of a slow tongue.” Given Sherman’s word-salad it could be said that he also is not eloquent. I would counter with the fact Moses is credited with eloquent poetry, songs and histories. He may have been a poor writer but he would have been an awesome speech writer.

    3). Moses was a devout monotheist who wrote of seeing a miraculous manifestation of God’s power. (Exodus 34:5,7) If Dan remembers being Moses he would remember that event as well. If the being Moses identifies as being God were a Thetan … wouldn’t that be something Dan would want to talk about and highlight?

    4). Moses dealt with more than a couple overbearing, egomaniacal, presumptuous blowhards over the course of his life. On the other hand he self-described himself as “a very modest man, the most modest of all men on earth”. (Numbers 12:3). Given his humility in detailing his own personal failings, including a situation that resulted in his not being allowed into the Promised Land, it’s hard to find fault with the personal assessment. I doubt, however, that Moses would subject himself to being the biographer for the Pharoah (e.g., Hubbard) or toadying for other officials (e.g., Miscavige).

    5). What is known as the Mosaic law included practices and prohibitions that, for the time, were far in advance of the norm. While prohibitions on topics like same-sex activity tend to catch most attention today, often overlooked are instructions on dealing with human refuse, dead bodies, infectious diseases, treatment of workers and immigrants were far from common (Egyptian medical practices included poultices made using human feces). Even the sometimes mocked phrase of “eye for eye, tooth for tooth” has a noble purpose in highlighting the concepts of justice and equality. Moses would laugh his sandals off at the Purif and the underpinnings of Scientology ethics.

    6). The alignment of Moses’ writings regarding Creation and science are a lot closer than most critics and fundamentalist believers realize. As noted in an article in the Huffington Post notes “the writers of the Bible somehow figured out that creation occurred first with the universe, then the Earth, then light, then water, then land rising out of the water to separate land and sea, all in the proper order according to contemporary science”.* Scientology’s science concepts are as plausible as thinking the universe was made in 7 24-hour days +/- 6,000 years ago; the original Hebrew word for day provides for an unbounded time period similar to English concept of “in my grandfather’s day”. If Dan could get it so right so long ago, what’s holding him back now.

    With that I need to find my copy of the Ten Commandments and be Cecil C. DeMille on.

    * http://www.huffingtonpost.com/david-l-wolper/genesis-and-science_b_500201.html

    • Exodus is also a kick ass metal band.

      • Robert Eckert

        Leviticus, on the other hand, isn’t

        • Numbers is great for math though …

        • I had to Wiki and YouTube them. Yeah, no.

  • Dave Reams

    “Everybody wanted me to do it, Miscavige, Broeker, Mary Sue, him most of all. I felt like he was up there, waiting for me to take the pain away. He just wanted to go out like a sailor, standing up, not like some poor, wasted, adult diaper-assed degraded beaner. Even the Galaaaxy wanted him dead, and that’s who he really took his orders from anyway.”
    – Sarge

    • More context needed.

      • You’re questioning the accuracy of the Galaxy wanting him dead?

        Or just want to get your hands on the source. 😉

        • I just don’t know if he is making a joke or quoting something. It’s been a long day.

      • Dave Reams

        The context was LRH ordering Sarge to construct a suicide machine for him and Sarge’s deep conflictedness over doing so. Sarge’s solution was construct and electro shock therapy device to deliver a high voltage shock to the Ron. In a medical setting, LRH would have been administered muscle relaxants to prevent injury. Perhaps Sarge and the Broekers used Vistaril for this?

        • I get it. But please don’t make it look like Sarge actually said it, unless he did. Eta: or if your name is Pat.

          • Dave Reams

            Apologies. The “quote” was lifted from Apocalypse Now. Willard (Sarge) living among Kurtz (Ron) comes to the realization that Kurtz/Ron wants him to be the instrument of his death.

            The parallel between the two plots just blows me away! What if Sarge had obeyed Ron and built the suicide machine he so desperately craved?

  • Fink Jonas

    “he had discovered that he was the actual author of Genesis”
    doesn’t he wishes! Scientologist are so delusional they even dream with the dreams of others.

  • Did anyone mention that Pokemon Go has taken over the world?
    There are hordes, literally HORDES, of people in the streets (Royal Oak, MI), ALL doing Pokemon Go.
    I am now one of them.
    It is a revolutionary phenomenon.
    Discuss amongst yourselves.

    • Baby

      f5

    • Observer

      Mr O has this week off and has been wandering the neighborhood. Apparently there are a lot at the local Walmart.

      • OT but were the inspiration behind Ribder’s blog:

        Someone sent me a new promotion for the “L. Ron Hubbard Series” which prompted this post.

        Assuming you were sharing the L. Ron Series shoops covering where L. Ron was hopeless, useless, and meaningless.

        • Observer

          Indeed it was. All the flowery language about the of fraud made me sick.

      • You’re a gamer, right?
        Very interesting development. Many implications for the future.

        • Observer

          Yep

    • I heard it’s the latest in Xenu’s plan to take over the weak-minded.

      • Xenu has nothing to do with this. He is the good guy!

    • MadisonAgain

      There’s a poke-stop at a CoS
      https://mobile.twitter.com/PezRadar/status/751641672191127552

      Eta comment & autocorrect fail

      • Churches has some weird attraction to this game. Many report on being directed to churches.. wth!

    • I am too old for this shit.

    • edge

      It’s not officially available in Canada but a ton of people have it on their Android devices if they change their location settings. I think it’s a very clever exercise app disguised as a videogame. It gets people out walking and mingling. Very clever.

      • It has many implications for the future.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      I was a charizard in a previous existence, so this feels like a homecoming to me!

    • They are all brainwashed with Augmented Reality just like the Scios!

    • I saw my first hypnotized idjits walking side by side, down the sidewalk, looking at their phones as they walked right into me.

      • They do that while texting, too.

        • Evey Hammond

          There was a scary incident last year in California where a young man who had his head down in his phone texting walked over a cliff and fell to his death.

          • Every day I am almost killed by distracted drivers.
            Its a slaughter out there.
            And “they” are not doing anything about it.

    • Harmless Weirdo

      I seem to be one of the very few people not doing it. I simply refuse.

      I admit I’m starting to feel like Donald Sutherland’s character in Invasion of the Body Snatchers.

    • I don’t want to spoil the party, but did you know that th permissions you give when you install the app enable Nintendo to:

      a) Send email as you
      b) Delete your emails
      c) Access your Google Drive account
      d) Delete files on your Google Drive account
      e) Know where you are at all times (obviously) and follow your movements

      Edit: also access to your contact list, and more…

      The ‘big data’ implications are more than a little scary and everybody seems to be totally oblivious.

      • The issues have been addressed. Not everyone is oblivious. Nor totally.

  • I just got my copy of International Scientology News. More Silver Mullet word salad from the mouth of His Ecclisiatical Teensyness at the OT Summit . . .

    “Where else can you watch the material universe slipping from view behind us? And while our own universe looms ever larger ahead? Wherever we go, that’s where we are—and every star aligns accordingly. Such is the scope of Scientology tonight, that all anyone will ever say is this: Before the beginning was a Cause, and the entire purpose of the Cause was the creation of Effect. And from viewpoints to dimension points came connection and interchange. And thus came communication. And, thus, this OT Civilization under construction, as of now.”

    • JaxNGold

      Jeeezus, where to begin with this gibberish? It’s like he just strings words together, trying to sound clever and profound. As if. What the hell is any of that supposed to mean?

      • Kay

        It means nothing whatsoever. It’s a weird conglomeration of Jr. High science class and Sunday school lessons from childhood…….with a little “astronomy” thrown in.

    • Kay

      WTH? This is such nonsense that it is laughable, truly. “Wherever we go, that’s where we are?” Seriously, that part sounds like a Dr. Seuss book. (except he was a MUCH better writer) The rest is such crap that I can’t even think of a clever criticism. I do think that the “before the beginning” of course sounds like Genesis, which in light of today’s story is no big surprise since Sherman thinks he wrote it. pshaw

      • madame duran

        I think it’s noteworthy that Sherman’s Genesis narrative doesn’t mention anything about LIGHT or that what was created was GOOD. Even among gibberish and lies, sometimes people reveal themselves through what is omitted or added.

    • Jimmy3

      I’m going to write that in my favorite bathroom stall

      • Kay

        Laugh…follow it with “for a good time, call Jimmy3, I will rock your world !”

    • Chee Chalker
    • Harpoona Frittata

      And later on at the end of that magical gala OaTy evening, lil davey grabbed the mic and jumped up on a couch (so that people could actually see him) and started to yell and point at people, “You get galaxy, and you get a galaxy, and you get one too…EVERYBODY GETS A GALAXY!!!”

      • richelieu jr

        Provably untrue!
        If it had truly been Hubbard he woold have pronounced it “Ga-LUH-Xsee” or perhaps “Ga-LOOK-see”, if it had been a few minutes since he’d pronounced and he’d forgotten how he pronounced t the first lie, erm.. time.

    • TonyOrtega

      Please drop me a line.

      • richelieu jr

        Uh-oh, @Artoo45:disqus — I think you’re giving @TonyOrtega:disqus ideas!

  • Trolleficent in da house! XD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sACxVMl9_xE

  • YellowSubmarine

    The religion that makes you beg for money to be part of it: https://www.gofundme.com/2d5pthg. “I have recently left my job teaching to go full time to make the mission a stable viable monetary option for all the staff.”

    How about keeping your job to be able to pay for things yourself?

    And this one: https://www.gofundme.com/majeio. “Please help our Mission survive so we can keep helping people in the area! We need financial help for rent, utilities, dissemination efforts.”

    $15 of $2,500 goal
    Raised by 2 people in 17 months

    • so naive!

    • madame duran

      This is sad.
      That this duped woman is Canadian is even more sad. Learn your history, people!!
      *facepalm*

    • richelieu jr

      Why noit? In a natids that allows it biggest company to pa such a low wage that full-time employees need food stamps and other social aid… I thought that was what America is all about: Give the Richest a Break, and pass the check to the little guy.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Anyone awake?

    • richelieu jr

      Man, that is one deeeeeeeep queessssti…………..zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz………………..

  • MrsLurksALot

    O/T: this Pokemon Go phenom is getting out of control. Almost witnessed a fist fight, a neighbor’s driveway being blocked by a Poke player, who wouldn’t move…..oh, there were a lot of bad words. Why pull in someone’s private drive and then be a jerk about it? Have to admit, it was kinda funny but then I was worried there would be real violence. Anywho, this game is making everyone, players and not, crazy! Don’t understand it, got give up all privacy rights to your phone to play…uhm, no. F5

    Oh, and good morning, Bunker! 🙂

    • Friend of mine is one of the main creators. And then, there’s this… http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-pokemon-go-attempted-murder-fullerton-20160713-snap-story.html

      • MrsLurksALot

        Skip, your buddy is making the big bucks, wow.

        But, what about this? http://jezebel.com/pokemon-go-is-an-agent-of-the-state-1783448711

        What’s your take on the privacy issue?

        • You’ll find a bunch of folks on Pokemon Go are from the Niantic Project, which is Google, which means Eric Schmidt who goes into the White House all the time, and the other guys who have their own landing strip at NASA, etc. And they’re all of the same “liberal” philosophy (not the original kind of Truman and JFK) that ultimately ends up in heavy concentration of federal power. So there’s the reality.

          • MrsLurksALot

            Well, that is enough to make one a conspiracy theorist. Pokemon No, I say. I just cracked myself up with that bon mot, I have to admit….I’m sure it is not original, but I giggled writing it.

            Hangs head…

            I’ll see myself out now.

            • Dandy Dan Sherman’s looking for an assistant, Lurks.

    • richelieu jr

      Pokemon, like SCIENTOLOGY: It’s Always Funny Until Someone Loses a Mind!

  • richelieu jr

    Hey all:

    HELP!

    I can still not buy “RUTHLESS” as an ebook in France.

    Tony’s valiant publisher never got back yo me, either. The audiobook is WAY too expensive.

    I do not want to just find a torrent and steal from the man, but I cannot have both a new book in my house and a girlfriend and family.

    I thought I was going to London next week, and would have done it there, but no dice.

    If no one here can help, I am going to download it and send the man a Cheque.

    I have never had so much trouble getting someone to rake my money. His European publishers should be shot out of cannons into the empty bank account they could have filled for him.

    • pluvo

      richelieu, maybe it’s better to post this on the new article/comments section.

      • richelieu jr

        Maybe.

        Is there such a section? I’ve been on this list (in its various incarnations for 5+ years and i have never seen it or heard someone addressed to it.

        I have given basically this same message on three different days’ comment boards.

        That said, I would be glad to.

        • pluvo

          No, I’m not speaking of a special list. I just saw that you had posted the comment on yesterday’s comments section, that’s all. 🙂

          • richelieu jr

            OHh, OK man, I get it, Thanks!

            • Qbird

              Hiya Richelieu, jr. — are you still in touch with BTNs?
              She has my email addy… if it does not work out with others — I will get this for you.
              Q 🙂

            • richelieu jr

              Hey Q, thanks!

              I’ll see if I can find her address- I haven’t written in a while and I’ve changed computers, but I’d like to hear from her anyway!

              Thanks for the nudge!

    • flyonthewall

      you’re really not missing much. It’s mainly beneficial to still-in’s, fence sitters, people totally unfamiliar with Scientology and pissing off Miscavige. You’ve read or heard about the most interesting parts already (Miscavige’s sisters confronting Lisa Marie, PI’s, escaping). There was a bit about being a Gold musician and life at INT that was interesting but nothing really earth shattering. There’s A LOT of Hubbard woo, whining about how his family ruined his chances of becoming a big time musician and how his wife was a harpy who nagged and bitched at him all the time. Most everything CoS related has been covered elsewhere.

      • richelieu jr

        You’ve known me for quite a while, @fl@i_am_flyonthewall:disqus and I am sure you are right as to what I would be interested in/love/hate/enjoy perusing/consider a waste of my time Earth…

        The rehabilitating Hubbard stuff is sure to go right up my nose (zasw e say in French, comparing stupid c rap to lustard!)

        Still, for whatever reason, I feel a need to be involved in he Zeitgeist, and i clearly have a morbid fascination for picking apart the public lies and especially the self-lies that would allow hii to both piss away his potential career as a musician for a gig where he had to fjckng know the ‘SOURCE’, who claimed to be a paragon of The Arts was about as talented a musician as the excess puss he had drained from that thing on jps head. What was it called again? Oh, right– His only true friend.

        Fell the need to read it before the next one comes along…

        • flyonthewall

          Sure, I get it. Just trying to put you at ease since you’re having a hard time getting it. Maybe message a British resident of the Bunker from an old thread and make arrangements for them to order you a copy from the amazon UK site. They could have it shipped to you in France during the order process. Paypal the Bunkeroo the $$$. Just an idea

          • richelieu jr

            Thanks!

    • CO$CUZ

      Hi 🙂 I lurk A LOT but rarely comment. Family in that escaped in a big way. I can send you my copy? Just joined some sort of book club with some friends on Facebook and this fits right in! I am on the SP’s ‘r’ US. Let me know if that works and/or is safe and ill ship my copy to you 🙂

      • richelieu jr

        Hey, @co_cuz:disqus ! What a wonderful time to poke your head up!

        I am on ‘SP’s ‘r’ US’ as well, though I’ll be damned if I can remember my name!

        It is a wonderful/generous offer (and perhaps I can send you something? I do worry that you underestimate the shipping coss t France (though I am good for it)…

        I have a ton of great (real) books (in English even!) That I have to get rid of at the moment (rf: GF, above)!

        • CO$CUZ

          How do we do this? You don’t need to send me anything. I have so many generous people in my life, it will be my pleasure 🙂
          edit to add: I just mentioned that I am on SP’s ‘r’ US to you’d know I am real and safe. let me know what the best approach is!

          • richelieu jr

            Well, contact me off-list on xxxxxxxxxxxxx, and we’ll work it out! Thanks!

            • CO$CUZ

              I send an email yesterday….did you receive? Not sure if I deciphered your address correctly. Sending one more, just in case 🙂

            • richelieu jr

              what is the subject line? I’ll see if I need to fish it out of the Spam filter!

            • CO$CUZ

              I see you’ve got it! I shall send tomorrow 🙂

            • richelieu jr

              Thanks! Really lovely of you!

    • Dave Reams

      here is an e-version of the book for free:
      https://youtu.be/ad8OCy48nrQ

      • richelieu jr

        Not my fave Gainsbourg, by far, but far from his worst!

        • Dave Reams

          Oh, I’m sorry! Wrong Miscavige video. The video I posted was from David Miscavige’s Oddity Folder. Depicted is his first meeting with Tom Cruise – played by Gainsbourg (the singer). Note that Dave relates the story from Tom’s point of view! “Tom totally worships my buff muscular physique and my studley butch demeanor … he’s my bitch, what a clown!”

          • richelieu jr

            😉

  • nottrue

    Time to knock this out….. https://www.gofundme.com/25tjpuvw

  • Testing pictures F5
    ETA: WTF!