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DOX: A former L. Ron Hubbard business partner dishes on Scientology to the feds


[Hubbard, circa 1958]

For more than a year now we’ve been bringing you previously unseen and often startling documents that our friend and researcher R.M. Seibert managed, with the help of the MuckRock website, to pry out of the hands of the Food and Drug Administration in a Freedom of Information Act request.

The FDA investigated L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology from about 1958 to 1971, and raided the Washington DC church in 1963. The documents we’ve recovered have ranged from Hubbard’s high school grades to interviews with family members, former church members, and even some major science fiction figures.

Last January, we told you about a really odd little nugget that turned up in the pile. FDA inspectors became interested in a man named Joseph Ettelmann who had a business dispute with Hubbard. According to the FDA files, Ettelmann and Hubbard had become “close friends” and had gone into business together, becoming partners in a jewelry plant that manufactured Zodiac pendants for use in Hubbard’s church. Then they had a falling out, leading to a lawsuit and a wild scene when Ettelmann tried to serve the suit on Hubbard.

At the time, we noted how crazy that sounded. Hubbard and astrology? That’s not a connection we’d ever heard before. Well, now we have even stranger stuff to fill out that tale a bit. It turns out that in February 1963, the FDA tracked down Ettelmann and interviewed him, and we thought you’d want to see what the man said. Some of it is just plain weird.

On February 12, 1963, FDA inspector George D. Tilroe visited with Ettelmann at the office of his attorney. Ettelmann at the time lived in Kensington, Maryland.

Arrangements were made with Mr. Malcolm Houston, 1010 Vermont Ave. Washington, D.C., to interview his client, Mr. Joseph C. Ettelmann. Mr. Houston is currently involved in a civil action against Mr. L. Ron Hubbard on a charge of false arrest of Mr. Joseph Ettelmann, which was brought about following the acquittal of Mr. Ettelmann in a Civil Action No. 14-60, entered in the District of Columbia, June 14, 1962. Information concerning this particular court action was previously submitted in a memorandum to the Division of Regulatory Management.

Mr. Ettelmann, during 1957 and 1958, was involved in the sale of property to Mr. L. Ron Hubbard. In order to consummate this sale, Mr. Hubbard required Mr. Ettelmann to take courses in the Founding Church of Scientology. Mr. Ettelmann took courses in processing, and actually completed only four sessions. The civil action interrupted additional sessions which Mr. Ettelmann was planning on taking at the Founding Church of Scientology. Mr. Ettelmann supplied the following information. Most of the information which he supplied cannot be documented and is his personal opinion.

Hubbard had created Dianetics (1950) and then Scientology (1952) claiming that both of them were based in science, not religion. But after an initial boom had gone bust, in 1953 he admitted to close follower Helen O’Brien in a letter that things really couldn’t get any worse. They were being investigated and harassed by the government, the press was brutal, and they were having a hard time attracting new people. So, he told her, they might as well try “the religion angle.” On December 18, 1953, Hubbard and his son, L. Ron Hubbard Jr., and their wives signed incorporation papers in Camden, New Jersey forming the first “Church of Scientology,” as well as two other entities, the Church of American Science and the Church of Spiritual Engineering. A couple of months later, in February 1954, one of his followers started a Church of Scientology in Los Angeles that would eventually become the “mother church.” Hubbard didn’t start the “Founding” Church of Scientology in Washington DC until July 1955, but then it became his chief location until he left the United States a few years later and moved to England.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that during 1957 and 1958, Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, Jr. and Mr. Glenn Elliot were ministers of the church who presided over the religious sessions. Miss Marilyn Routsong was, at that time, treasurer of the various organizations. He stated that until October 1958 Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, Sr. was present full time at the Washington facilities. In 1958 Hubbard left to reside in England. Mr. Ettelmann indicated that several meetings were held by Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, Sr. during which he attempted to alleviate the fear of the members of the church about the use of the atomic bomb. To do this he indicated that clearing of the various individuals would protect them from atomic fall-out. Mr. Ettelmann described Dianetics as the bible of the organization and Scientology as the practice.

Yeah, that sure sounds like Hubbard. It’s sometimes hard to remember that for much of the early history of Scientology, Hubbard used the fear of atomic annihilation as a strong motivating force. Even into the 1990s, we’ve been told by former members, young people would be told that they needed to give up their regular lives to become Sea Org members because a nuclear holocaust was on the horizon. Imagine how much stronger that fear was in the 1950s.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that during his business dealings with Mr. L. Ron Hubbard, Mr. Hubbard indicated to him that the church had been set up as a means of eliminating tax payments, as the church is a tax free organization. He indicated that Hubbard told him, that through his church affiliation much of the businesses handled by L. Ron Hubbard could be handled through this tax free organization. During 1957 and 1958, Mr. Ettelmann received many checks from Mr. Hubbard, all of which were signed by L. Ron Hubbard. Most of the checks received were also countersigned by Marilyn Routsong and/or Mary Sue Hubbard. Mr. Ettelmann indicated that most of these checks were drawn on the Lincoln National Bank of Washington, D.C.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that “processing” was definitely indicated as a means of eliminating various physical afflictions. He stated that they indicated that after one was processed and had become clear, that these physical ailments would be eliminated. He further indicated that one can be audited without the use of an E Meter, but that an individual cannot be cleared without the use of an E Meter. He then went on to say, however, that the practice of Scientology was indicated as a cure for various ailments even though the E meter was not used.

The Food and Drug Administration was the federal agency investigating Scientology because, at least back then, the federal government was more vigilant about its role as a watchdog concerning bogus health claims. In Dianetics, Hubbard had claimed that nearly all of mankind’s physical ailments are actually psychosomatic and could be eliminated with his counseling techniques. In practice, this led to claims that he could cure just about anything with Scientology, and that had aroused the interest of the FDA.

An individual interested in being processed or becoming an auditor would go through a series of several sessions learning this practice. At the time of the first session, the E Meter would not be used. However, during the second and/or third sessions of processing, the E Meter would be an essential component. He indicated that the beds located in the various rooms of the building are used in the processing procedure when the E Meter is used. The patient being placed in a reclining position at the time of the processing.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that he could definitely testify to the fact that Dianetics was promised as a cure for physical ailments. He stated that he knew this by overhearing a conversation between an auditor (name unknown) and a female patient who had lesions on her legs. He also recalled another incident where an individual with lung trouble was promised help by the use of the Scientology practices. He stated that his only knowledge of the use of the E Meter and the attempted cure of a patient was with regard to a female who suffered from “female trouble.” He stated that he could not remember the patient’s name or the exact details, except that the auditor had inserted the cord of the E Meter into the vaginal opening to obtain his E Meter readings and that complications (believed to be an infection) had resulted.

We hadn’t heard this one before. Perhaps one of our oldtimers could expound on the notion of one of the E-meter cans being used in such a way. And yeah, those things are filthy.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that the organization freely practiced “free love.” He indicated that Mr. L. Ron Hubbard continually philosophized that “what the body is capable of the body shall do.” He further indicated that most of the rooms in the various buildings had tape recorders hidden beneath the beds and/or under various pieces of furniture. He felt certain that this information, obtained on the recorders, was used in a mild form of blackmail. Mr. Ettelmann stated that he, himself had been blackmailed by Hubbard when he was hesitating about the signing over of a piece of property to Mr. Hubbard. He stated that Hubbard had indicated to him that it would be wise for him to sign over the property if he did not want information concerning a previous divorce of Mr. Ettelmann to come out into the public. Mr. Hubbard indicated that the divorce action was not legal. Mr. Ettelmann stated that he had checked into this and as far as he could tell it was a legal divorce, however, he would not take the chance that it was legal, knowing of Hubbard’s ways and means of obtaining information. He also stated that Hubbard let him know that he knew of an arrest that had been made in Georgia on charges that Mr. Ettelmann had committed armed robbery and rape. Mr. Ettelmann had been acquitted of these charges. The information concerning this robbery and rape charge was obtained by Mr. Hubbard from the security check list which Mr. Ettelmann had filled out.

Wow, there’s a lot to unpack here. First, we have to admire the Crowleyesque nature of Hubbard’s edict, “What the body is capable of the body shall do.” We can totally see him saying that. Anyone know if he said something similar in a recorded lecture? As for Ettelmann’s claims that Hubbard had investigated him and was threatening to blackmail him — while we can’t check out Ettelmann’s claims, this follows precisely the practices that Hubbard described in the Manual of Justice (1955) and later policies of how to investigate and threaten someone Hubbard considered an enemy. While David Miscavige and his private investigators get all the ink today, there’s little doubt that Hubbard was ruthless with the dirt-digging even in the 1950s. And one of the chief tools used by both Hubbard and Miscavige is the “security check,” when Scientologists are compelled to spill their guts about their most private affairs while hooked to an E-meter. For 60 years, Scientologists have been handing over to the church the material that can then later be used against them.

Mr. Ettelmann was questioned as to his knowledge of various individuals who have been connected with the organization. He stated that Mr. Richard Steves did auditing during 1958, as well as Mildred Dean Galusha. Mr. John Galusha was said to have been in charge of all auditors, with particular emphasis on those auditors who traveled throughout the country. Mr. Ettelmann also indicated that Mr. Bonnie B. Turner had made several advances toward Mr. Ettelmann and on one occasion had been “slugged.” He also stated that Mr. George T. Elliott performed marriages at the church.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that he recalled hearing of a 13 or 14 year old girl, who had resided at the Academy of Scientology for over one year. He indicated that this girl had been classed as mentally retarded (this individual may be the Helene Mason referred to in my previous memo). Mr. Ettelmann stated that Mr. Brinkman (the attorney presently handling the FDA seizure action) was, at one time, a member of the Founding Church of Scientology and a close associate of L. Ron Hubbard. Mr. Brinkman is said to be in constant personal contact with Mr. L. Ron Hubbard and was believed to have been connected with Dianetics during its reign in Kansas.

Mr. Ettelmann was questioned as to his knowledge of the reasons for the change of name from “The Church of Man’s Religion” to the Founding Church of Scientology. He indicated that L. Ron Hubbard had informed him that this change was made due to tax implications. Hubbard had indicated that the New York Founding Church of Scientology was a tax free organization, whereas the Washington Church was not. The change of name was brought about to facilitate the purchase of equipment, supplies, etc. through the New York City church on a tax free basis. The equipment then was turned over to the Washington church by means which lower the tax rates.

We hadn’t heard this one before. “The Church of Man’s Religion”? Does that ring a bell for anyone? Also, we can’t find any reference online to a “New York Founding Church of Scientology.” Ettelmann may be mistaken, or it’s possible he’s passing on things Hubbard told him that were not true. But we love the idea that Hubbard had at one time called his outfit The Church of Man’s Religion, and we wonder if that can be corroborated.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that members of the church and auditors may buy E Meters. He further indicated, however, that auditors don’t have to be members of the church. Concerning the church, he indicated that he believed the membership fee was $25.00 a year and that in addition to this fee, donations were collected during the church services. He also recalled that a building fund drive was instituted sometime around 1958.

Mr. Ettelmann was questioned as to his personal knowledge of any immoral acts performed on the premises of the Founding Church of Scientology. He indicated that he had no direct knowledge, however, the female associates of the church congregated at a small restaurant on the downtown side of the Conn. Ave. and R St. interchange (across the street from Empire Drugs), between the hours of 9:30 and 11:00 PM. He stated that these women spoke freely and loudly of their relationships with Mr. L. Ron Hubbard and other individuals connected with the Founding Church of Scientology. He stated that this restaurant is still used as a hangout for the members of these organizations.

This is kind of the best thing ever. The Scientology gals hanging out at the corner drugstore each night, swapping stories about their exploits with Lafayette Ron in the sack. Observer, this scene sounds ripe for shooping.



Mr. Ettelmann stated that he had been requested to design and build a “memorial for the living.” This memorial was to be hung in the Founding Church of Scientology. He described the memorial as a large brass plaque with a light behind it, and a means of cutting script names into the plaque. Each name would be for an individual who was willing to pay $400.00 to have his name placed on this “memorial for the living.” Due to the court action, this plaque was not finished. He also indicates that he had manufactured bracelets with a small emblem on the top. This emblem consisted of a triangle with two S’s embossed on top. On the back of the emblem were the following letters:

AD 8
John Doe
Scientology clear

Mr. Ettelmann stated that the “AD 8” indicated 8 years after the founding of Dianetics (After Dianetics 8). These bracelets were presented in January of 1959 to some 350 individuals who attended a Scientology Congress at the Shoreham Hotel. Mr. Ettelmann stated that most of these individuals were from foreign countries.

Mr. Ettelmann stated that he would be more than willing to be a witness at any trial, or to help us in any way that he could.

George D. Tilroe

We don’t know if Ettelmann was ever called to testify in the litigation that followed the 1963 FDA raid and that dragged on into 1971. Eventually, the two sides settled, and Scientology was required to put a disclaimer on all of its E-meters that it was not a device for medical diagnosis. But thanks to R.M. Seibert, we’re finding that the FDA’s investigation resulted in so many great documents. Isn’t this fun?

Here’s the document itself…


FDA 1963 interview of Joseph Ettelmann


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  • latest tweet from Krustie… notice how she doesn’t mention “Lipo” or “Gastric Band”


    • beauty for ashes

      BULLSHIT! You definitely had skin removed after drastic weight loss! Blerg, why do I even?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I don’t believe that for a minute. I saw this the other day: An old newspaper article about clam drug prevention that refers to her as Dristie Ally. I think that name fits her better. LOL

    • Bunker Buggy Betsy

      The hel she hasn’t had work done. Here’s another Scientology buddy who got monstrously obese.

      Anyone who loses that much weight has to have surgery.


      • Saint

        His wiki is silent on his involvement. Ha! Anyone that can stand that much of Jason Lee is suspect.

      • Frodis73

        Actually, he didn’t gain weight…he’s lost it over the past decade. He’s still a huge prick though.

        • Bunker Buggy Betsy

          Gained and lost. He wasn’t this huge on “call me Earl.” ( gr8 show! But hard to watch now.)

          Anyway, just noting that he was morbidly obese, then lost it, and has skin hanging down.

          Funny, he was at the opening of Kirstie’s diet scam store. Again, he wasn’t that ginormous then.

    • Phil McKraken

      @kirstiealley You should at least get your eyes fixed, because if you weren’t blind you’d see in the mirror that that bitch fell down a long, long time ago.

  • nottrue

    Now are you ready for your ” Female Trouble ” test……Standard Tech of course. COB will be observing

  • Todd Tomorrow


    • gtsix


    • beauty for ashes

      beep…….. beep……..beepbeeepbeep

    • mon elle

      Life is a test.

      It is only a test.

      If this were the real life you would be notified of where to go for bagels and schmear.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    FFS! Leave my gramps alone!
    Vulnerable grandpas, immigrants and kids – the CO$ fishing pond is getting smaller & sadder by the hour…

    • Supper Powers

      There’s a code for letter writing? Why am it not surprised?

      • Supper Powers

        Awesome. I never have to help my boss or colleagues when they email me a request to do so. I’ll just refer them to number 7.

        • mon elle

          I have discovered (I think) why conversationalists with Elle and In Fine Fettle become circular or dead ends:

          1. Always answer a correspondent’s exact questions.
          2. Never get angry or misemotional with a correspondent.
          3. Maintain two-way communication with the correspondent.
          4. Be willing to grant beingness to the correspondent.
          5. Do not justify organizational mistakes whether real or imagined.
          6. Never fail to help at the correspondent’s reality level.
          7. Never imply or promise help where it is not real to you.
          8. Never cut communication with a correspondent, once initiated.
          9. Never Q-and-A with a correspondent: that is, never answer a bank communication with a bank communication.
          10. Be willing to help the correspondent’s life and livingness until he or she is Clear.
          11. Never fail to answer a letter promptly: that is, within 48 hours.

          Now it’s clear they do not follow the non-bolded items … but interesting the ones that are typical of their communication.

          • 12. Never expect a reply. If you get one and it’s neutral or friendly – share your success story at the next staff muster.

          • Supper Powers

            Exactly! This is so dysfunctional an unrealistic.

    • Letter registrar is a sad post. You try to get tons of letters out and all you see is nothing back or occasional “Joe has been dead for 20 years, remove me from your mailing list”. It’s a massive waste of life and paper.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Not to mention the probable pain of arthritis being in play here. SMH

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Seriously?! They’ve got no new blood so they’re coaxing the OTs (that’s old timers in this case) to join staff at low-ranking posts? I am sad. This poor man should be wearing silly golf pants and bouncing his grandkids on his knee.

  • beauty for ashes

    Hey Derek Bloch! So this happened! f5

    • salin

      Applause. Standing Ovation, even.

    • Omg! That’s so cool! And thanks for the upvote. I might have said average LOL

    • Mockingbird

      I have liked all of Derek’s work I have seen. Worth recommending.

  • SciWatcher

    What we apparently have here, folks, is the prototype of the ecclesiastical dildo.

  • I know the Legoland story is old but when I was searching for a Jenna Elfman pic to use for my Judges meme I came across this one with her creepy husband and felt I had to share….

    • Bunker Buggy Betsy

      Guess he needs his hands in her pocket to pay for services.

      • Liberated

        Could Bodhi be any creepier ?

        • Ella Raitch

          Scientology always manages to lower the bar – Bodhi is no exception

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Maybe he’s hung like a horse and that’s why she keeps him around.

          • Liberated

            Probably, she certainly has expressed her ” love of the ponies”.

      • Mockingbird

        With her TV and movie money there should be plenty of cash – unless a certain cult took it all !

    • Susan black

      They so deserve each other.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    My This Guy really makes hubs look like rancid chopped liver. after all he started the world’s first airline!

  • salin

    Greetings Bunkermates! Caught only a quick scan of the story when it was posted (had to be on the road a few minutes later.) *Knew* the first thing I would hit on the web when I got home would be to read the scuttle dealt to feds just before I was born. Reading it – Yowza. And the e-meter follies with female issues… *cringe*. Next, onto the comments – which delivered many a punch. Great reading.

    If you haven’t done so, consider recommending today’s unearthing of scurrilous observations/recollections long-stored away in federal files. High praise for R.M. Seibert’s muck rock diggings. Most folks would get buried by having to sift through so much paperwork/chafe to find real gems. Deep thanks.

    Recommend (click the ‘recommend’ just under the comment count, and above the dialogue box) and make the heart beat. In return I share some photos from Scandinavia of aurora’s from the past 24 hours.

    Dancing in Norway:

    Spectacular Sky Show (with the less common reds peaking through) in Iceland:

    Streaking and Stretching to touch the ground in Sweden:

  • KNMF

    New stuff! That really was a fun read, and excellent commentary. Hubbard was dirty, petty little satanist.
    “The Church of Man…” is an obvious rejection of God and wouldn’t have played well in Peoria.
    MOAR please.

  • sizzle8

    Miscavige will now release the new GAT 3 e-meter cans, the Steely Dan edition…

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Steely Dan signature cans man! How can you go wrong?

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Oh dear! Is #outofthisworld one or two levels before #outofmoney?

    PHOTO CAPTION – #CRRD #completion. Definitely . I generate my own energy completely in #presenttime on all my #dynamics

    • salin

      *sad sigh*

    • mon elle

      She’s holding a certificate for the Cause Resurgence Run Down.

      Next to a sign that says the route needs to be walked.

    • Ella Raitch

      She’s got those crazy eyes that can only come from running around a fluorescent tube in a darkened room, till you puke, drop, and/or have a cognition

      • mon elle

        So me on a Saturday night at Studio 54 in ’71?

        • Ella Raitch

          Did they give you a certificate?

          • mon elle

            No certificate.

            Unless you count the paperwork I got from a cute undercover cop …………

    • flyonthewall

      who is she winking at?

      • mon elle

        You ya big bug lug.

  • Bunker Buggy Betsy appears to be down. It was down the other day and today.

    Hope the cult hasn’t deep sixed the site. It probably saved lives!!!

    • Ella Raitch

      Tony has responded to a comment about it – things are in hand – never fear

      • salin

        Thanks, I missed that response. Appreciate the update.

      • Bunker Buggy Betsy

        Good to know!

        Scientology managed to scuttle the idleorgs site too.

        I tweet those sites all the time and wonder if Woody has something to do with it. Grr!

        Who’s supressive?

  • sashiebgood

    omg. eeeeew. ew. ew. ew.
    I can’t even with that description of unorthodox e-meter use. and I have to think that if that the FDA saved future Scientologists from that. and maybe they shouldn’t have, because if that became a ‘regular’ part of auditing, I bet a lot fewer women would have become Scientologists.

  • Ella Raitch

    The map on the wall behind Hubbard in the photo above has a mark on the Western Australian coast line that looks to be the location of Exmouth (although the scale of the map is awful).
    Apart from being adjacent to a heritage listed marine park (Ningaloo), Exmouth is the location of a naval communication station leased to the US navy in the early to mid 60’s.
    Very odd location to be the single point marked on the Australian map. Sydney and Canberra locations are out of frame, but no other major population centres are highlighted (and poor old Tasmania has been forgotten again).

    • That globe is still in his DC office though. My wife and many staffers who visited the place about 10 years ago, posed next to it. I was there too.

      • Ella Raitch

        Pix Dodo?

      • flyonthewall

        did u do his pose? is that a thing or would it be J&D?

      • Mockingbird

        Creepy, like a Hitler trophy.

    • Phil McKraken

      That map looks like someone looked at a map for reference, then was blindfolded and drew the outlines from memory.

  • The Queen of Ice and Flame

    I wonder if LRH ever designed (or started work on) a Tarot deck… or if he read any of Gerald Gardner’s works while in the UK….

    • Mockingbird

      I think I have seen mention of some of the occult symbols and terms he used coming from Crowley and his cards. Jon Atack had a long article on it Arnie Lerma may have it at Lermanet. com.

    • flyonthewall

      *raises hand*

    • mon elle


    • daisy

      That is a slur on douches. Useless waste of skin.

      • mon elle

        True. Douches do serve some function in life.

    • Supper Powers

      *closes eyes and shakes head*
      When is the IRS going to get it?

      • Cedilla

        “When is the IRS going to get it?”

        Ask Fred T. Goldberg, Jr.
        Still very much on this earth.
        Born October 15, 1947.
        Goldberg,Jr., Miscavige, and Rathbun made a deal.

        • Frodis73

          Wouldn’t it be great if TO could score an interview of that guy?? I hope he at least writes some kind of confession to be read in public when he dies…something!

  • Jo

    Looking at that map, he would of been shit, playing Risk.

  • flyonthewall
    • Eileen

      Guy dances like he spends a lot of time on the computer.

  • Ok, we found a couple. My wife hates this photo of herself, but she is a good trooper.
    Eta: In Hubbard’s office in DC, 2006.

    • outraged

      I don;’t know who is your wife but all the ladies look lovely. :-}

      • My wife is the one who runs the world. Thank you.

        • outraged

          ah, that’s like me.

        • Supper Powers

          She’s lovely. And I’m not just saying it because she runs the world.

        • mon elle

          As all good wives do …

        • JaxNGold

          Laughter! Good man. *wink*

    • Cedilla

      Which one is she?

      The one standing behind the huge globe.
      Or the globe.

      • She is the blonde one. The other ones are sadly still in.

        • mon elle


        • daisy

          It is amazing that you both came out together. Do you have some family still in at all ? I think that is a good photo , she is lovely.

          • Nope. We are all out. Thank you, Daisy. Here’s her with JT in Clearwater.

            • Cedilla


            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Can you remember who brought up the idea of leaving first? Did those fuckers ever make you two right KRs on each other?

            • I got her in and I got her out. She wrote some KRs under pressure. I probably did too, but much less. I was Tech, she was Admin.

            • Baby

              Sweet… I love it..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Hopefully you guys can laugh about it now. So glad you’re free of that mess, bro.

            • Thanks!

            • gtsix

              Still live in the dc area?

            • We never did. It was a visit.

            • Frodis73

              Lol, she looks a bit nervous that he might bite her or something. See, deep down she was probably picking up on a vibe.

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          She’s beautiful but looks like a kidnapped victim in the first pic. That woman has a weird tight grip on her.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Awwww, Dodo!. Cute wifey is cute.

    • aquaclara

      Waving hi to her, Dodo! Such great pics!

    • noseinabk

      Hello beautiful Mrs. Dodo.

    • Baby

      Absolutely Stunning.. You guys make such a cute couple..

    • Mark Foster

      That´s in the old org at Connecticut and R, now the National Affairs Office, correct?

  • Just found a photo of me with Emeter. I did look like a bird.

    • Cedilla

      Do not see a pic.

      • See it now. DodoTheEmeter.

        • Cedilla

          Love it.

          • Damm I was skinny. lol

            • Cedilla

              What year?

            • ~2004, I think.

            • Cedilla

              What were you thinking there?

            • It was a photo shoot of some kind. Probably for some compliance program.
              I remember nothing about this photo at all.

              Dude holding the cans is Keith Abell, he was a Course Supervisor, but after years of psychological abuse from Chief Reg David Sonenfild he agreed to stay on staff as a Treas Sec. Still there, as far as I know.

            • outraged

              Your eyes are wild.

            • I look like a hungry vampire.

            • Cedilla

              You’re not the one holding the cans.

            • No.

            • Cedilla

              Ok. I know.
              ” Dude holding the cans is Keith Abell”
              I misread.
              So. Why is he the course supervisor?

            • Ask him. Eta: he wanted to be a teacher?

            • grundoon

              “Keep both cans on the table where I can see them, Mister.”

            • Frodis73

              Weren’t we all? You still are a cutie pie Dodo.

        • daisy

          Oh that is hilarious I thought you were the one on the cans. You look far too happy and eager .

          • Mark Foster

            Daisy, it´s the slivovitz 🙂

        • Baby

          This is a keeper.. absolute fabulous picture.. You have such distinctive eyes..and so handsome Do..

  • Oh Poor Tom. Looks like he is on the RPF. (Courtesy of

    • Ha! If only.

    • outraged

      Poor Tom is also thought of as narcissistic. Who knew? A Blind (F5) about narcissistic personality disorder asks about a president, presidential candidate, rapper and actor. Everyone is guessing Tom Cruise for the actor. Self centered perhaps, but he doesn’t really have ALL the other characteristics. DM, however, is a horse of a different color.

  • outraged

    Robert Ettelman seems like a character from a spy movie, the one with all the secrets and all the hidden evidence. Is he still alive? Stunning that he just spits right out like a sunflower seed that Mr. Hubbard indicated to him that the church had been set up as a means of eliminating tax payments, as the church is a tax free organization.

    game set and match. In a perfect world.

    • Cedilla


  • seriouslyWTF
  • Spike Robinson

    Xenu window progress:

    I am planning to create an OTIII-themed faux stained glass window – currently in sketch form. Thank goodness for Photoshop. The whole thing is going to be three panels, the center 2’x2′, the sides 1’x2′, executed in glass paint and rubber stripping on thin sheets of acetate. When it’s done, it shall portray the OTIII story in all its meretricious glory. But for now, I’ve got the first panel sketched out. This is a sketch; this is only a sketch. Otherwise, I’d be up to my elbows in paint by now. Soon…

    (Although I’m still working out the fine details, I hope to raffle this off in salute of HowdyCon, and then use the proceeds to purchase a care package with various goodies and a couple cards bearing the current blown Scn staff helpline number. Logistics of how to get these bits o’ love to the right folks inside the Orgs is being taken under advisement.)

    • Ella Raitch

      Looking good Spike

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks. 🙂

    • daisy

      It is going to be beautiful. I want it.

      • Spike Robinson

        Well, I’m still trying to figure out the best way to raffle it off online – that way everyone only pays a little no matter the amount of funds raised, and yet everyone has an equal chance of winning…

    • Frodis73

      This thing is going to be so cool.

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks… been working on it still. Here’s an update:

    • Mark Foster

      I WANT ONE! 🙂

  • Jimmy3

    I need advice… I have a crush on this former auditor, but I’m pretty sure they’re married. What to do?

    • daisy

      For God sake fight for her-him.

      • Jimmy3

        I should. It’s not like there are more like him. He is the last of his species.

        • daisy

          Any pics?

          • Jimmy3


            • daisy

              You know what is fun , laminating photos and make them into kick ass collages. Photo shop yourself into them. Cut up letters and write him a love letter. Mail the photos to him.

            • Jimmy3

              I said a crush, not a stalker obsession. Jeez, daisy.

            • daisy

              Oh that is what I am doing wrong.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Give him some oral!

    • Ella Raitch

      Donating big bucks to the IAS would be a logical first step

      • Enturbulated Masterbator

        Brilliant move my dear!

    • We can always Snapchat.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Don’t know if it’s been mentioned, but just got hit in LA w/ Scientology commercial while watching “Amazing Race” on CBS!

  • seriouslyWTF
  • Frodis73

    I was trying to locate any reviews of the movie Holy Smoke that tackled the horrible way they handled “de-programming”. While searching I came across this pp presentation about LRH from 2014. Basically, what I gathered from a quick look, they are saying Hubbard didn’t support brainwashing.

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

      Chris Shelton covered it in one of his Q and As on YouTube, he watched it after being asked about it and he was very negative about some of it. It was within the last 6 to 8 weeks, maybe November or so? If you drop him an e-mail, he’ll be able to tell which one it was.

      • Frodis73

        That is why I watched the movie today, until his video I didn’t realize it was about cults. I was hoping to find some articles that criticized how they handled it. I am going to email Chris over the weekend too.

        • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

          Another movie about cults but much more realistic than HS is Ticket to Heaven, based on the Moonies. Meg Foster does a great job as a cult leader who is ruthlessness in her service to the cult.

  • I wonder what the genuine brilliant minds at the TED 2016 conference thought when they came across this guy, lol

    …. I think his tag says they could talk to him about “Peace”


    • Frodis73

      Gag. I really want to smack that kids smirk off his face. Not really, I would never hit a child…I am not violent, but he is beyond the normal annoying teenager.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      One more reason why I dislike the TED conference. I want to barf from all the smug pollution anytime I hear it on NPR.

  • TheCommodeDoor

    CoS ran their “Cos Supports 1.5 Million Volunteers To Help Change Lives” commercial tonight in the middle of The Amazing Race. LA, KCBS.

  • Frodis73

    Another link discussing sci’s influence in the arts. The site is worth checking out considering we were just speaking of academics selling out for the cult. I did a quick search and some of the stuff i have read before (like a study of both the SO and the RPF) but others, like the topic of art and scientology are new.

    • If I had my way, every single article link to CESNUR in Wikipedia that wasn’t to a verifiable document copy would be scrapped as non-Reliable Source.

      And any document link that began “preliminary version, do not cite”, would not be cited.*

    • Good grief, what pretentious twaddle!

    • A wonderful example of;

      1) Taking inconsistant, made up nonsense at face value and seriously (i.e. Scientology)
      2) Cherry-picking details from this doctrinal mess (just like a Scientologist) to support a rather banal thesis. He is seeing connections which exist only in his mind.

      In actual fact there is no influence to speak of. Scientology is remarkable in this regard only in that it has little influence on anything in the wider world, let alone art. This is a consequence of Scientology being so insular and demanding. Members typically have no time for creative endevours and those who did produce before joining seem to find that it puts a damper on their ability and output (exactly the opposite of what the CofS promises). Once you are in, all that matters is pusuing Scientology to the exclusion of all else (and paying for it).

      This is a guy who gives academia a bad name – he’s even been stomped on by a UK satirical magazine

      I’m not sure Melton is actually corrupt… he is a classic useful idiot who would attract no attention whatsoever for his work if it was not for his connection with the CofS.

      • Frodis73

        Great link. I don’t know why I’m surprised these guys lie…it just seems so crazy because they know they are going to get called out on it, but they don’t care. They are definitely more concerned with legitimizing the new religious movement field by any means necessary.

        • I think people like Melton really believe that they are doing sterling work (with a little help from the subject of their ‘study’). He really is a useful idiot who can be relied upon to fool himself for as long as is neccessary.

          Melton occupies an intellectual cul-de-sac where people believe that the most bizarre docrines should be taken at face value. No real-life influences are allowed to intrude – for example, the fact that Scientology doctrine was invented on the fly in resonse to practical challanges to L Ron Hubbard’s power, not to mention the abuses of the CofS.

          Legitimising high-control groups is a by-prouduct of his efforts in the niche market he has made for himself – a ‘brave’ academic defender of ‘religious freedom’. He’s not doing it to advance the cause of Scientology, he’s doing it to advance his own career with Scientologys’ connivance.

          Thing is, he’s not taken seriously by a satirical magazine, let alone his own peers. Truly a useful idiot.

  • daisy

    I am sure this is posted somewhere, but Harper Lee, the author died.

    • Frodis73

      This year is off the hook when it comes to death.

  • I’m not really a fan of religious albums but must admit I do have quite an inkling to hear this one….


  • here’s a little bit of snark thrown at tiny tommy from Family Guy

    • messed about with it in some comic software


  • Enturbulated Masterbator

    In the year of our Xenu, AD 66.

    Ok, building fund drive in 1958. Sounds familiar…hmmm.

    And that vaginal e-meter brings clarity to the claim of being screwed by $cientology.

    BTW, Mr Bonnie B. Turner sounds like a fun guy! I wonder if they recorded his bed sessions, too.

    • I wonder what read an e-meter might get from my ass?

      • ithilien

        A floater?

      • ithilien

        A floater

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    OMG! She has already mastered that CO$ stare!

    This was posted on Instagram by Chloe Kardoggian, who is described as “3 pounds. 2 teeth. 1 giant tongue. NYC senior rescue (dob 5/11/04).”

    PHOTO CAPTION – “Today I’m strategizing about my celebrity path. QUESTION: At what point should I announce I’m studying Scientology and kabbalah? Discuss….”

    • Juicer77

      Awesome XD
      +1000 points for senior rescue doggie!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I guess these clams are unaware of what David Bowie thought of the CO$…

    Thorsten Overgaard ~ “A mural of Bowie records made on Joy’s body. Our final memory of Bowie.”


    • Blissfully unaware of how the real world views their crazy cult. Smug and snug in their superiority.

  • Dave Reams

    If you were a devoted Scientologist who worshiped Ron like a god (on your knees, on all fours, … ) and got implanted by him, wouldn’t you be thrilled to have his love child? Despite Ron’s probable insistance that the pregnancies be disposed of quietly and without sorrow, surely a few babies must have slipped through the cracks?

    These Children would be in their 60’s and 70’s now … Donald Trump’s age

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Well, I haven’t had time to read the entire thing yet, but in the first few pages there is stuff like this:

    “Mr Ettlemann stated that the organization freely practiced ‘free love’. He indicated that Mr L. Ron Hubbard continually philosophized that ‘what the body is capable of the body shall do’. he further indicated that most of the rooms in the various buildings had tape recorders, hidden beneath the beds and/or under various pieces of furniture. He felt certain that this information, obtained on the recorders, was used in a mild form of blackmail.”

    That is a very Crowleyan “philosophy” there that Ron was allegedly spouting about the body. The blackmail, though — that is pure LRH. What a fatal blend…

  • J breezy

    What is the significance of the stars on the continents on the cloth behind hubbard in the photograph used as the article thumbnail?