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Hey, Legoland: A former Scientology youth explains what your money will buy

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On Monday, the Legoland California theme park invited actress Jenna Elfman to preside over its annual Christmas tree lighting ceremony and thanked her by donating $10,000 to the charity of her choice. Elfman, a longtime and ardent Scientologist, asked Legoland to donate the money to Youth for Human Rights, a Scientology front group that uses a 1948 United Nations declaration as a way to spread its influence with young people around the world.

Yesterday, when we asked a Legoland representative if they were aware of the group’s connection to Scientology, we got a terse reply that Legoland had chosen its celebrity emcee “without prejudice.” That response kicked up a sharp reaction at our website and on social media. We also received a copy of this message from Derek Bloch, which he sent directly to Legoland’s office. We thought you’d want to see it.

Hi, Legoland.

You recently promised a donation to the Church of Scientology via Youth for Human Rights on behalf of Jenna Elfman.

I want to help you in witnessing the cosmic irony you have created by donating to Scientology in the name of both “youth” and “human rights.”

My parents joined Scientology when I was relatively young. I was pulled out of middle school, and never got to high school because Scientology decided that I should work for them. They threatened my parents to get them to sign over custody of me to a loyal member of the Sea Organization.

I was subjected to 19 hours of work every day starting from age 15. I barely had two meals to eat. I was not paid and I was not given time off. I could count on one hand the number of times I was allowed to see my family during the three years I was there.

The only reason I was thrown out was because they found out that I am gay. I had started developing a relationship with one of my fellow male staffers. There were plenty of heterosexual relationships budding around me. I knew many people who had been allowed to get married. But because I was a boy who happened to love another boy, they threw me out and dropped me on my parents’ doorstep in the most literal sense that you could imagine. The house was locked when I got home because no one expected me. No one from the Church of Scientology had called my parents to let them know their son was coming home.

“Youth” and “human rights” are two things which Scientology took from me. Hopefully you can see now what a slap in the face it is to me, and to the other thousands of victims of Scientology, that you just handed over $10,000 to them. A simple Google search of “Youth for Human Rights” would show you that it is nothing more than a name on a bank account which belongs to Scientology.

You may not be prejudiced, but Scientology is. Scientology takes children out of school and puts them to work. Scientology hates gays. Scientology harasses and threatens anyone who speaks out, denying their freedom of speech. They tear apart families simply because the children or parents disagree with Scientology’s beliefs.

If you don’t believe me, send one of your employees to research it. It’s not hard.

I demand that you withdraw your donation from Scientology, Youth for Human Rights, or whatever you want to call it. It’s a slap in the face to victims like me, and we are legion.

I anxiously await your reply.

Sincerely,

Derek Bloch

 
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FHCabanasBabywatch, day fourteen: Lisa McPherson in Room 174

On Saturday, December 2, 1995, caretaker Silvia DeLavega, who had cried the night before when she started her shift and saw the state Lisa McPherson was in, noted that now Lisa was too weak to stand and was lying on the floor, breathing heavily, her eyes fixed in a stare.

Patty Strecener worked a few hours as the day began after midnight. She said in a report that Lisa had woken up and became agitated, slapping Patty several times. Patty pushed Lisa down, holding her arms as Lisa rambled incoherently. Then Lisa threw up.

Panicking, Patty ran to get security, but the officer who came in said the situation wasn’t really unusual. They cleaned up Lisa together.

Caretaker Laura Arrunada also worked that day, and reported that Lisa was less strong, and rolling around on the floor, still talking incoherently, non-stop. Laura reported that Lisa was given “a magnesium shot.”

Lisa also was given more valerian root capsules through the early morning hours to try and get her to sleep, as well as more “Cal-Mag” drink.

“We also cut her fingernails. This will reduce the risk of scratches to herself and to us,” Rita Boykin wrote in the most complete notes from December 2. “She has scratches and abrasions all over her body, and on her elbows and knees she has pressure sores. None of them are open and none of them look infected,” she noted.

Later in the morning, she made a note to talk to Janis Johnson, the senior medical officer, about getting more herbal preparations to make sure Lisa got some “serious sleep.” But she also revealed that the money for the protein shakes had run out.

“I was in comm with a security guard who said the source of the money was Lisa’s employer, and he thought he could get more this morning,” she writes. “I suggested we buy Vita Soy from the canteen and protein powder and yogurt and I will make the shakes. This would make it go farther this time. I have a refrigerator in the housekeeping room next to Lisa’s room.”

Around noon, Rita gave Lisa more valerian root capsules and another herbal table and more Cal-Mag. Two hours later, she notes that Lisa is trying to stand, but can’t because she isn’t strong enough. “I am going to feed her some mashed banana and protein powder. Have been in comm with security about getting more money for her.”

An hour later, a remarkable statement from Boykin. She says that Lisa “knows we are trying to help her, although she doesn’t know our names, and we don’t talk to her.” The rest of Lisa’s talk is the usual incoherent babble.

Lisa did manage to get down a couple of ounces of water in the afternoon, but she was still unable to stand. Rita describes her as “very restful and gentle.”

In the evening, there’s more banana with protein powder and Half & Half, as well as more Cal Mag and orange juice.

And apparently, some money had been found, because Lisa was also given a protein shake.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on December 2, 2015 at 07:00

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  • funnybroad

    Re-run just for fun…

    • Sherbet

      Members of the Catholic diocese that co-sponsors or at least endorses (and works at) the Mexican narconon facility should read this. It would make the nuns’ veils spin around.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      bwahahaa

  • Always Amazed

    I’m posting from my phone, so it’s impossible for me to comb through the postsโ€ฆ Anyone care to update me on TOs interview, wasn’t that today? which media outlet? Or am I completely off base here?

    • Observer

      It was on Inside Edition, but I believe it was pre-empted by coverage of the San Bernardino shootings.

      • Always Amazed

        Thanks Obs.

  • Observer

    On my way home from the hospital I was listening to the local news station, which was getting the shooting coverage feed from Fox. Imagine my astonishment and suppressive delight when I heard the following exchange between Greta and a male anchor:

    MA: … so the police are theorizing that …
    GVS [interrupting]: One thing that concerns me is the use of the word “theorizing.” What does it mean? What do they mean by that?
    MA [trying to answer]: They’re saying …
    GVS [interrupting]: “Theorizing.” I don’t know what that means. Maybe someone used a fad word and it’s got me all confused.

    So that’s what a high-level Scientologist with an MU sounds like!

    • flyonthewall

      people are dead and she’s hyper-focusing on a stupid word!?

      • Observer

        EXACTLY!

      • salin

        Trained Scieno reflexive anxiety response that the c/s might require her to go back in word clear?

        • flyonthewall

          reminds me of The Onion’s autistic reporter

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tInDH2FeXaM

          • Always Amazed

            Is that supposed to be funny? Serious question

            • flyonthewall

              yes, that is the intent

            • Always Amazed

              Has autism touched your life in any way, other than your clip? I am trying to understand, as a parent of a person with autism, on what level that would be funny……I know it isn’t just you that finds it funny. I am not being combative, I want to understand, it helps everyone.

      • She’d probably need a definition of ‘dead’. I don’t want to make light of that, but FUCK! You interrupt someone over the word theorize?! o_O

        • Observer

          She interrupted him multiple times. Her melodramatic questioning of “theorizing” went on for longer than what I posted. At first I thought she was trying to insinuate that the cops were covering something up, but then she blurted out the “fad word that’s got me all confused” line.

          • theorizing is a FAD word?! OH.MY.STARS!

            • Observer

              That is an exact quote. My jaw was in my lap.

            • i can understand how/why!!!

          • Sherbet

            Yeah, it goes along with those other fad words that confuse her, words like science, psychiatry, truth.

    • daisy

      Is this the famous school tech. I guess she was promoted before word clearing. Also missing the point as usual.

      • Observer

        Sec check for not having her dictionary on hand!

    • She knows what that means. She theorized that Introspection Rundown works.

    • (OT: why are you coming home from the hospital? did they DX Mr. Observer? I hope he’s doing well!)

      So GVS is doing MUs during live coverage and seriously?? She’s been on Fox news how long and doesn’t know ‘theorizing’?!?!

      • Observer

        He’s been in the hospital since yesterday. His bloodwork indicated pancreatitis, likely caused by the gallstones. They can’t do the surgery until his pancreas calms down, so they admitted him to treat him for it. His lipase levels are back to normal now so they may do the gallbladder surgery tomorrow. But since everything changes every 15 minutes, who knows. :-/

        • Sherbet

          How is he feeling? Any better now that he’s on meds and stabilizing?

          • Observer

            Yes, but he hasn’t eaten for over 24 hours. I kept my distance because I was afraid I’d start looking like a giant chicken drumstick to him.

            • Sherbet

              Uh-oh. He’s having a tasty meal through a tube in his arm, no doubt. Poor guy.

            • Eclipse-girl

              he will probably not have much of an appetite until after surgery

        • I’m sorry I don’t keep up with comments but I HAVE been thinking of y’all!!! Those are fixable things, which is good, and it must have been a relief to finally get a DX. Sending you both good thoughts!!!

          Hey—anyone reading this—any news on PickAnotherID?

          • Frodis73

            His daughter did post earlier and said they hope to send him home fri or saturday. He’s doing a lot better, but are keeping an eye on him. You can prob find it by sorting by oldest.

            • thank you!! I suck at searching comments plus disqus gets fucky at times when you try to search thru comments…..but good to hear things are improving!!

          • Observer

            His daughter posted earlier. They got his heart rhythm stabilized but his blood pressure is still too high, so they’re keeping him in the hospital.

        • salin

          Glad the pancreatitis is calming down. Hope surgery can happen soon, goes smoothly, and recovery comes quickly.

        • Kestrel

          Thank you for the update.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I have have my gall bladder removed.
          email me if you need to talk.

      • salin

        lol – that seems to be most of what Fox news does – wild (based on loose logic and hard ideology) theorizing.

    • seriouslyWTF

      Are you kidding me? That is what she was concerned about?

    • Allie

      Greta, dear, you seem to get confused easily. And stop interrupting.

  • MachiavelliaMidget

    Youth for Human Rights in 2007 at the United Nations’ recognition and award. Hoping the U.N. got the information needed years ago to never support this Scientology Front Group ever again. An Anne Archer/Terry Jastrow Production.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I think I read that the CO$ just rents the space in the UN buildings to hold these type of things, which they then trumpet as being UN events. Apparently almost anyone can book an event there. IDK

    • Sherbet

      Further fuel your indignation by recalling TC receiving the Simon Wiesenthal Center’s Humanitarian Award.

      • daisy

        They took Bill Cosby*s honors away, I am optimistic it will happen to TC and I can*t wait.

        • Sherbet

          Same Center? I didn’t know that.

          • daisy

            No, I was speaking about his honorary Doctorates from a couple of universities. It is the ultimate irony a Jewish Center giving him anything but a cold shoulder.

            • Sherbet

              Gotcha, daisy.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Scientology Melbourne posted:
    “December is here and the Christmas tree has arrived! Can you believe it’s just over 3 weeks till Christmas?! We can’t!”

    #scientology #scientologymelbourne #christmas #melbourne #christmastree
    (refresh)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/-z15pANeJt/?tagged=scientology

    • flyonthewall

      ….

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Maybe LRH left for Target Two before he was able to perfect his “Christmas Tree-topper Tech? That thing looks like its about to fall off.

        • salin

          Anything can happen to a tree set up to celebrate faked psyche-plot figure.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Yep, this SP Christmas tree obviously “pulled it in”!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        What is a xmas tree doing in a parking space?

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Probably it’s just showing off its phenomenal OT ability to find an open parking space…

          • Allie

            Snort. Chortle. LMAO

  • new bollocks https://www.scientologybollocks.com/?p=6762

    bonus gif yeah, we do it to each other too http://i.imgur.com/Xj2TDRM.gifv

    plus two best kitteh pics of the day

  • One Who Cares

    Lego land donates $10,000 dollars to help abused children world wide and you make jokes.

    All the facts can be verified.

    Fact: We have grown more in the last 10 years than in the last 65 years.
    Fact: We are providing humanitarian relief all over the world.
    Fact: LRH is the greatest philosopher and Humanitarian in modern times. His work is widely regarded world wide.
    Fact: Mr. Miscavige works tirelessly and has donated his life to helping mankind.
    Fact: Mrs. Elfman has raised more money for children than the United Nations has done since it’s founding in 1960.
    Fact: Our magazine Freedom is free online and will explain all that we do and expose our detractors.
    Fact: We have raised more money and we have helped more people than most charities combined.

    It has always been common to attack something that people do not understand.
    Instead of criticizing us all the time, don’t you think you should see who we really are? What good have you done today?
    Come in and talk to us, I bet you would be surprised.

    • May_West

      Back up those facts with proof, not quoting from your scientology sources. Get some real recognized-as-legit sources for your info and then I’ll look at your claims.

      • Sherbet

        Yeah, come read our scientology-published materials for an unbiased look at the church’s good works. Right.

      • One Who Cares

        The proof is there go to our web page and read the facts.

        • If it’s a fact, then it could/would be found on other sources. HUGE clue—-what’s on your sites isn’t listed on other sources cuz they are LIES.

        • May_West

          No. Your web page is not an independent source. It is your primary source. Give me some independent reliable sources.

        • Sherbet

          When I was a kid, I believed everything my parents said — Easter Bunny, thunder was God having a pillow fight, if I crossed my eyes they’d stay like that. I thought they were Facts.

          When I grew up and used more critical skills, I realized they were not Facts. They were fables.

          How could scientology be so perfect and everything and everyone and every philosophy outside the church be so completely flawed? Do you allow yourself one iota of doubt to creep into your scientology-soaked brain?

    • Frodis73

      No thanks. We will be waiting when you wake up though.

    • aquaclara

      Word clear all that, ok? They are lying to you. I’m sorry.

      • Sherbet

        I think he/she is stuck on the word “fact.” “Believing drivel invented by L. Ron Liar” is not “fact.”

        I have no patience with this person today, after more shootings and reading today’s installment of Lisa’s slow, horrifying, scientology-assisted roll toward death.

    • Sherbet

      Where are the church soup kitchens? Where are the free health clinics? Where are the homeless shelters? Just name one. How much does your church donate to such endeavors (NOT giving out free booklets; that’s not real help)?

      Many of us in the Bunker, affiliated with churches or not, do volunteer work that entails real work with real down and out people, and we pay out of our own pockets for real help for these people. Just give proof of one such thing your church does. Again, booklets aren’t food, shelter, or clothing.

      • One Who Cares

        We do not use soup kitchens, we travel world wide to help disaster victims.

        • No, you do photo ops and get in the way or real disaster helpers.

          • One Who Cares

            No, I’ve personally helped so many injured people. I’ve seen the results. Why do they a;always thank us and tell us god bless you?

            • So you’re a VM? You had to raise your own money to go to a disaster? Did you do touch assists? They probably said thanks to be polite and they probably said “God bless you” cuz they felt bad for your unblinking children of the corn stares. List where you helped. Go on, it’s not bragging, I’m asking.

            • Sherbet

              “So many,” huh?

            • That equals eleventy billion in scientology math!

            • salin

              As a signal to say, politely, stop touching me and asking creepy questions.

        • Sherbet

          Fact: VM’s hand out booklets and the materials that other REAL charities ship to those disaster victims.

        • Sherbet

          Why don’t you use soup kitchens? Aren’t the starving and homeless of this country worth scientology’s while to help?

          • One Who Cares

            We help the hungry in the U.S. also but we provide full meals for all who are hungry. We don’t just give out soup.

            • Then why are there hungry Sea Org workers?? Your soup is made of nothing but lies and delusions with a pinch of salt from the tears of those who’ve suffered at Scientology’s hands.

            • Frodis73

              Where do you guys do this?

            • Imagination Land

            • flyonthewall

              so you give out salads, bread and an entree? What about free refills?

            • Sherbet

              Duh. “Soup kitchen” doesn’t mean they serve only soup there. OK, please send me a link or an address to the facility where these meals are given out.

              You see, we are willing to change our minds if you offer proof. So far, you offer regurgitated scientology myths.

    • truth will set u free

      Are you paying attention to the story above? Are you reading what was done to poor Lisa? For how many days? Until she was comatose and died shortly after? Are you that blind?

      • Sherbet

        ^^^^

      • One Who Cares

        That never happened, she was using drugs and was in an auto accident. Yes it is tragic.

        • She was NOT using drugs. Read the FACTS.

        • Sherbet

          Then why did the scientology handlers give those reports to the police saying what they did?

          • Sherbet

            Really, “truth,” we’re waiting. If the Lisa McPherson event “didn’t happen,” then that revolving staff of scientology handlers were big, fat liars, because they gave reports to the police saying what they did, what they didn’t do, her condition.

            You just can’t allow any doubt to seep in, can you.

            • One Who Cares

              It did happen. She was high on drugs when she crashed her car.

        • Frodis73

          Oh, now they are saying she was a drug user. Funny how the story keeps changing.

        • truth will set u free

          Pity that is all they told you. Hope it isn’t you someday on baby watch my friend.

        • salin

          OMG. Read a bit more and you see why we who do not belong find your group very concerning. She was captive for “processing” (check out the introspective rundown), she was severely neglected and was prevented from receiving medical help. Some beliefs that sound good on the surface, have some very grave consequences when followed rigidly as is required per the adherence to LRH policies.

          Please keep reading. If not, please start questioning (at least internally) some of the things that you are being told to believe ‘on faith’. Observe those who have reached Clear and the high OT levels in a day to day setting – ask yourself – what ‘super powers’ can I observe are being used. Question.

          For your mental, financial, and emotion health and future. As Miss Tia said, we will embrace you if you emerge from the cocoon of false images – and there is a large community ready to embrace and support you.

          For future reference, if you do start questioning check out Chris Shelton’s (long time Sea Org) videos. I understand he is real understanding and helpful to those who are just starting to really question the CoS lines.

    • Frodis73

      I know you will just hit and run, but I HAVE to ask. If LRH is the greatest philosopher and humanitarian of modern times and is widely regarded as worldwide….where? He is NOT taught in any university…he has NOT been given any awards (real ones not fake ones you guy give him). The vast majority of people on Earth do not even know who the heck he is. Think about it dude.

      • One Who Cares

        Than why does LRH have a large exhibit in the Smithsonian?
        This is the truth.

        • Oh honey, bless your heart. That’s not true at all.

        • Sherbet

          WHAT???

        • Frodis73

          LMFAO! Who in gods name told you that???? You know you can check that info out via the net eh?? OMG. Just when I think I can’t be shocked by the ignorance of scientologists…BAM.

          • One Who Cares

            It is common knowledge and I’ve soon videos of it.

            • Not common knowledge amongst people who live in the real world and have access to FACTS. You have been brainwashed honey. PLEASE wake up!!!

        • Sunny Sands

          This website searches all past and present exhibitions at the Smithsonian.
          http://www.si.edu/Exhibitions/Search
          There are no past or present exhibitions for either scientology or L. Ron Hubbard

          • One Who Cares

            That site does not show all, I’ve personally seen it on video. I was told it takes 2 days to see the whole exhibit.

            • Sherbet

              Have you been to the Smithsonian? I have. Zilch on lrh.

            • Sunny Sands

              Gotta give you credit for sticking around and answering, OWC. Scientology is known for lying to its members.

            • Frodis73

              I am wondering if we are being messed with though…most sci’s don’t say stuff like that cos they know it’s not true…who knows though. At least the Smithsonian thing….that has me lmao.

            • Sunny Sands

              The tone of the replies indicates a very young person, IMO.

            • Sherbet

              I’m not sure anyone would talk about Lisa dismissively unless they were serious.

            • Frodis73

              It takes TWO days to see the (non-existent) LRH exhibit? You really believe that don’t you. Whatever video you saw was from your own museum. There is NO trace of LRH at the Smithsonian dude. You know all you would have to do is fire an email off to the Smithsonian and they will give you an answer.

            • Oh wait, I bet that video came from scientology, right??? Have you thought of going to their site directly as Sunny Sands has linked above to be proven wrong?? Or would that cause you too much grief right now?

              THEY ARE LYING TO YOU!!! WAKE UP!!!!!

            • salin

              I have spent a lot of time in the Smithsonian. There is no exhibit that takes even a whole day to see – that would be counter productive for their purposes to bring information to the public on important and diverse topics. That large of an exhibit would limit the topics covered, and prevent visitors from seeing other exhibits.

            • Sid (Phil)

              You were told? So you don’t believe in the LRH maxim “look don’t listen”?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              I remember that too.
              And every LRH exhibit visitor got this souvenir pin for stopping by…
              (refresh)

              http://americanhistory.si.edu/sites/default/files/styles/square_scale_and_crop_480px_x_480px/public/blog_teaser_images/Pin.jpg?itok=mgfm7pdsthey

            • maybe you also get pink eye? since l ron courageously battled pink eye!!

        • Sherbet

          Link? What was in it? lrh’s fake war medals, some of which were created well AFTER he said he received them? And that’s Fact.

        • JMasiulewicz

          I’ve also personally seen videos of this guy named Han Solo who has a cool spaceship and he works with Princess Leia and Luke Skywalker and a big hairy guy to defeat this other big guy called Darth Vader. There’s six videos and it takes two days to see them all.

          • Frodis73

            Lol. I’ve seen that one too!!

        • salin

          You are *hilarious*! Or, perhaps very gullible. You have been fed a line. I dare you to go to DC to the Smithsonian (presumable the Museum of National History) and find that exhibit for yourself. Heck, I will go with you and pay your admission ticket as we go look for that ‘large exhibit’ in the Smithsonian.

    • flyonthewall

      give me some cake

    • Supper Powers

      Will you please provide data and a graph?

    • Dox or STFU

    • Observer

      David Miscavige may be child-sized, but he isn’t a child, and he’s the one doing the abusing. Most if not all that money will go all the way uplines and into his pocket.
      .

      • One Who Cares

        How disrespectful for 2 of histories greatest men.

        • Say what?? Where’s Shelly Miscavige?? Why doesn’t COB do anything Scientology related–like auditing, etc? Cuz he knows it’s a fraud and just wants the cash?? Cuz he likes the power and control over others??

          L Ron was a despicable individual and so is Miscavige.

        • Observer

          No, this is the truth about two of history’s most successful con men.

        • Sherbet

          So, let me get this straight: You absolutely don’t believe any, ANY of the ex-scientologists when they say Miscavige beats people? It just, like Lisa, “never happened”? EVERY SINGLE EX is a liar? Every one of them? Their stories just happen to be identical.

        • Allie

          Two of history’s greatest CONS
          typo

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      Oooo, haven’t been able to do this for a while…
      Please read this, it will save you several hundred thousand dollars. F5 (and while you wait, call 1-866-XSEAORG. It’s toll free ๐Ÿ™‚ )

      • One Who Cares

        I cannot read what you wrote.

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          I didn’t write it, that’s LRH’s original illiterate scrawl-it’s the OT III materials.

          Better not tell your E/O though-your auditing will get more expensive. Enjoy ๐Ÿ™‚

        • 1-866-XSEAORG Don’t route out BLOW!! Freeloader debt is NOT legally enforceable!!

        • salin

          I understand, you are supposed to pay your way through more expensive levels before you are given this document for OTIII, and thus can not read it yet. Doesn’t that strike you as a little scammy?

        • May_West

          Refresh the page.

    • Sunny Sands

      Almost finished with steps A to E?

    • Sherbet

      Why didn’t you all postulate peace in San Bernadino? We know from stories in scientology magazines that you believe your special powers can get you a parking space, turn traffic lights green, or change the weather? Why didn’t you all foresee the evil event about to happen, all get together, and combine your powers to prevent it?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Show Me The MOney

    • Fact: It’s Wednesday evening and you’re working on Thursday’s 2pm Stats
      Fact: You wouldn’t allow most of us into any of your buildings, cuz we’re ‘SPs’
      Fact: If you weren’t TOLD to post here, you would not normally be allowed to read this site or be on it because it’s ‘entheta’, does it bother you you can’t read whatever you want?
      Fact: Read Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book, oh wait, you won’t be allowed too
      Fact: Read Derek Bloch’s story and article linked above, oh wait, you won’t be allowed too. Both Jenna and Derek are child survivors of Scientology.
      Fact: Scientology abuses child, trafficks humans, destroys families and gee, are you able to call your family?
      Fact: Shelly Miscavige hasn’t been seen in public since 2007, where’s she at??
      Fact: Get some clues. While you’re able to post here, read some stories, okay? Think for yourself.
      Fact: We’ll welcome you when you escape.

    • flyonthewall

      I have some milk. (f5) I am ready for cake now plz. I will upvote you for a slice, I don’t care. Then you will have an upvote from someone other than yourself, Mr. 11 comments & 11 upvotes.

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        ….

        • i’m gonna try to bake cookies with the non-dairy earth balance sticks tomorrow—-lime melt aways (instead of lemon melt aways)….fingers crossed they turn out okay…..i also don’t have a citrus zester and target didn’t have one—i asked and the lady looked at me like i came from another planet…..sort of like when i was looking for an apple corer, NOT the slicer, just a corer…..and tea bag squeezers are something you won’t find in a store in ohio…..not easily…..the uncouth state of iowa has tea bag squeezers but not ohio??

          adventures in shopping….i have ’em……

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Let me look into the citrus zester & apple corer. I have a gift card I need to use before it expires and this store may have those things. I’ll email you and let you know.

            • i GOT an apple corer!!! i was on that quest a few years back and i went to over 2 dozen stores—yes, really—and NONE had the old fashioned straight CORER, just the ones that sliced—and yes, took out the core, but i wanted just the CORER!!! after i bitch blogged about it—just venting about, within 2 weeks, i got like 3 of ’em delivered to me!!!

              no zester though…..i’m gonna try to zest with a knife and will have poli on stand by with a first aid kit ๐Ÿ˜‰ or might just add extra lime juice and skip the zest part? frustrating!! why are those things so hard to find?? i figured target would have it!! nope…..

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              No worries love, we will find you one. ; ) Tell Poli to have 911 on speed dial too. LOL

          • Sherbet

            Bed, Bath, and Beyond has teabag squeezers. I’ve got one for home and one for work.

      • i gotta put soy nog on my grocery list! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • salin

      Belly laughs. Needed that.

      If just one point is this far off – no reason to even engage on any other item…. *Jenna Elfman has raised more money for children that the UN* whooo boy. Since it’s founding in 1960 *snicker* Er – UN 1945; UNICEF 1946.

      How bout you check Unicef out: http://www.unicef.org/statistics/ Here is a link to their most recent initiatives: http://www.unicef.org/media/ Handing out booklets, and some touch assists during a natural crisis does not begin to compare to the work done by the UN (member nations) through UNICEF.

      For fun more fun – google the ‘charity’ in question – to find it’s location on google maps. Then consider the times that individual members are pressed in times of emergency (such as the recent Paris terror attacks) to give money to buy the TWTH books. If charitable gifts go to initiatives, then why are members asked to donate again (on top of those donations?)

    • Liberated

      Are you fucking kidding me ?

    • Sid (Phil)

      The biggest lie here is probably the one to yourself, that you actually believe this.

    • Amy Forsythe

      You do realize you’re insane, and apparently scientology CAN’T help you with that.

    • Liberated

      Honey, isn’t it past your curfew? Maybe you should call it a night.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      It makes me sad that you may really believe this stuff. I hope one day you’ll truly investigate all those claims, and when you do you will look to sources of information that don’t come from CoS.

    • Eclipse-girl

      There are abused children in the Sea Org.

      You provide no evidence for your so called facts.
      They are (your) opinions.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Uh, okay… good luck with that.

    PHOTO CAPTION – “In between workouts I’m reading #dianetics my #mind is a muscle to so I will push it to its limits as well and I encourage you to! #iamjaydavi #knowledge #understanding #wisdom #borntobecome #education #health #mentalhealth
    (refresh)

    https://www.instagram.com/p/-wjTTrwo-5/?tagged=dianetics

    • Sherbet

      Jay, you look exhausted. Take a break.

      • daisy

        I just got that.

        • Sherbet

          Poor guy goes from the gym to sci classes. I say he should skip the classes. Would do him a world of good.

    • Frodis73

      He needs to learn about to and too, also.

    • Great work out idea: tear that book in 2 pieces!!!

  • JMasiulewicz

    Got my response, which I am sure is the same one that anyone else who wrote got.

    • Supper Powers

      Echo echo echo echo…..

    • salin

      The one that suggests that you are a bigot compared to their nonjudgementalism?

  • Observer

    And the butthurt Legolandgate sniveling begins!

  • One Who Cares

    People who live in glass houses should not throw stones.

    Check any school philosophy department. LRH is always listed and all his books are studied also.
    Keep an open mind. The tech works.
    I am not a dude but a woman.

    • Frodis73

      No, he is NOT.

    • Sherbet

      I know a FACT from a professional librarian that all lrh dianetic and scientology books are promptly scrapped when they arrive, unwanted, from Bridge Publications. They are NOT on the shelves.

      May we have a link to “any school philosophy department” that shows lrh is on the curriculum? Just one link? One proof?

    • flyonthewall

      now you made 6 more comments, including this one, and didn’t upvote yourself, that shows good restraint I am proud of you.

      • One Who Cares

        Why should I. I feel I’m being respectful and some of you are not, but that is okay. I understand.

        • flyonthewall

          You don’t understand bc you didn’t eat the mushroom. I did. That is why I know.

          • One Who Cares

            I eat mushrooms all the time, what is the point and I don’t see the connection.

            • flyonthewall

              you have to eat the right kind, not from the grocery store. Go to a cow pasture and look under the cow poop. Collect the mushrooms, clean them off and eat them. Then you will know what I know.

            • One Who Cares

              ??????

            • are they mushrooms growing in the group shower rooms? probably shouldn’t eat them….though i understand if you aren’t fed regularly and you’re sick of rice & beans….

        • Liberated

          Could you be any more sanctimonious?

          • One Who Cares

            Thank you, I try.

        • Sherbet

          Respectful is one thing. Not offering any proof of your alleged “facts” is another. It doesn’t matter how polite you are. You haven’t backed up one thing you said.

          • One Who Cares

            Go to the web page, it’s all there!
            List what you would like me to provide and I will post it.

            • Frodis73

              We need more than one resource…I can make a web page about myself and make up all kinds of crap and it means nothing unless it can be independently verified by outsiders.

            • Sherbet

              Oh, go to scientology’s web page and read the truth as interpreted by only scientology. Will you go to anti-scientology web pages and read the truth as interpreted by the other side?

            • Sherbet

              I, and others, have asked for numerous links from anyone other than the scientology BIASED website, and you have not posted any answers.

            • salin

              Because there is no ‘evidence’ anywhere else.

        • Supper Powers

          Edited:

          Phony.

    • May_West

      LRH materials are not permitted in most schools.

      • One Who Cares

        That is incorrect. Why all the negativity. Did you every read his work. It will open your mind. He was nominated for a Pulitzer prize in the 60’s and is in the running for a Nobel prize in Literature next year

        • daisy

          You poor deluded fool , I sincerely hope you blow.

          • One Who Cares

            I am being respectful, why to you have to make sexual horrible remarks?

            • daisy

              It was not an insult it was a diagnosis. Wishing you good luck and God speed, Rabbit speed or Ron speed. Appreciate that they allow you to crack a joke , a really really bad one in poor taste.

            • That was NOT a sexual remark!! You should know that ‘blow’ means to ESCAPE and that is what she meant. I hope you blow too. Don’t route out BLOW!!!!

            • Observer

              Mind in the gutter. You know perfectly well how she means “blow”.

              Perhaps you should check prominent Scientologist Jenna Elfman’s record of publicly stating she’d “blow a horse” (in the oral sex sense) if she could, say, watch Netflix all day.

            • Supper Powers

              You just outed yourself as a troll. You ain’t no Scibot.

            • salin

              Darn, this was so much fun. Well, even with a troll it has been fun.

            • Supper Powers

              For sure. It’s a great exercise in developing and defending your arguments. (Hope you are doing OK. I am glad you keep coming here during this big life change. Wish I could hug you and listen to a story about your mom.)

            • salin

              Thank you. Tonight started a bit hard. Too quiet at the house – then this awful shooting – … then check in and this entertaining exercise, gives a bit of time that feels a little bit normal. I will take a virtual hug – and when I start preparing my words (the Memorial for the Community will be 12/12 – we did a small family Memorial last Friday), I will think of it as telling a few stories about my Mom, as if I were speaking to you and the Bunker.

            • Frodis73

              We will all be thinking of you on the 12th and will be with you in spirit.

            • salin

              Thanks.

            • Supper Powers

              Oh darling, dig deep for the strength your mother planted for you long ago.

        • You know that he’s dead, right? Dead people can’t win Nobel prizes.

        • Frodis73

          Now I know somebody is fucking with us…elle or fine fettle never says this BS.

        • Sherbet

          Maybe May West didn’t read his works (maybe she did; I don’t know). But the Bunker is full of people who were in scientology from the 1970s, 80s, 90s. I think it’s safe to say they read it, they believed it, and now they’ve rejected it.

          • One Who Cares

            It didn’t work for them but there must have been a troubled person who interfered as that is always the case.

            • Sherbet

              “always.” OK, I’m done with you. Your blinders are too thick for me.

              Now get yourself to San Bernardino and heal those injured people and bring the dead back to their meat bodies. lrh said you can do that, you scientologists. Get going.

            • May_West

              Blame the person, not the tech. That’s how they get away with the tech not working.
              Why do OT8’s still need to wear glasses? Why are there so many former 20 or 30 year long scientologists leaving? Many that were right at the top of your organization? Why didn’t your tech catch them out?

            • Sid (Phil)

              Are Scientology beliefs so weak and indefensible that it just takes a little bit of contact with an alternate opinion to PTS someone right out of the group?

            • One Who Cares

              No, they go through a lot of study and auditing before that would ever happen.

        • aquaclara

          No, that’s not true. Someone is feeding you many trumped up stories about LRH.

        • Okay, are you practicing a stand up routine??? Pulitzer prize?? Nobel prize?? You realize those things are online and easy to check and we can SEE THEY ARE NOT TRUE!!!!

          Why can’t YOU see that?? Yeah, I did read some of his works. Hurt my head. Shredded it and put it in the cat boxes so it could be of some use.

        • salin

          Nobel. Prize. Literature. No. And if he hasn’t won it by now – he won’t he has been dead for nearly 40 years and most of the Nobel Prizes are for relatively contemporary works. His work is clunky in form and moldy in age per the ‘contemporary’ bar.

          I am sorry to tell you this, you have been lied to very intentionally on so many fronts that it really isn’t fair for you to have to try to defend the lies to people outside of the fabricated world you have been fed.

          • One Who Cares

            Why would they lie, they are the nicest and most caring people I’ve met.
            It is nice to meet genuine people and gives me hope for a better world.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          I have read his work. It did nothing but make me question his sanity.

          Do you have a link stating that he is in the running for a Nobel Prize next year? (links to articles written by Scientology directly don’t count, a link to the Pulitzer site would be helpful)

        • Eclipse-girl

          Nobel prizes are ONLY awarded to those who are living.

          Pulitzers are awarded for work produced in the last year.
          Many people can be nominated. All it takes is one person to make the nomination.

          By the way, GOING CLEAR has made the short list of 15 documentaries for the Oscar. It has won 3 Emmys.

        • order66

          I’ve read his pulp science fiction.. Worse than that crazy bitch who wrote about sparkly vampires.
          Are you going to tell us that the Old Goat is also studied in literature departments? I have a degree in English literature-Creative Writing, University of Oklahoma, and his name never came up, except maybe as an example of how NOT to write.

      • One Who Cares

        That is not true.

        • WRONG-O-RONI!!!

        • May_West

          Go to the Pulitzer web page. They list every nominee ever. Try to find his name.
          None of lrh’s materials have been approved for use in any school in the country I live in.

    • salin

      LRH is *not* studied in most philosophy courses/programs/majors, any more than Dale Carnegie or Kevin Trudeau. Come out of your shell and go visit some college philosophy departments. Really interesting places.

      • One Who Cares

        Why would Doonsbury be studied in school? It seems that you need to return to school LOL
        LRH is studied in all philosophy departments in most American and English Universities.

        • Frodis73

          Doonsbury, The Simpsons, The Matrix, etc. all of those things ARE studied at the university level…in *media/popular culture type * classes, not philosophy classes. You should really go visit a uni…fun places..

          • salin

            Agreed. And Philosophy and Religion Departments (sometimes joint at smaller liberal arts schools) offer really interesting courses.

        • Honey, come on, tell us WHERE he’s studied cuz we’re proving you WRONG. You just saying so doesn’t make it so.

          • kemist

            Perhaps she comes from Planet X, where hamburgers eat people and Hubbard is considered a philosopher because of some weird spatio-temporal incident involving someone becoming their own grand dad.

        • Jimmy3

          That’s Garry Trudeau. You must be Clear.

          • salin

            lol

        • Nope, and I done went to one of the ones you mentioned, and he wasn’t taught in t philosophy department.

        • salin

          Doonsbury? Huh? First names matter. Kevin Trudeau very different person.

          You are wrong about philosophy departments. So wrong that it I have to remind myself to share that with some folks in a local U philosophy department – they will appreciate the joke.

        • order66

          Only if the philosophy department has a sick sense of humor.

    • truth will set u free

      His books are studied by cult busters. None of his ideas are even considered in any way to be for serious religious inquiry for anything other than his link to satanic and destructive mind control methods.

    • daisy

      Checked library today, 6 anti-scientology and cult related books. No books by LRH not even in the fiction. Trouble Maker checked out the day they got it in. Small WASP town even knows about your crime syndicates heinous crimes. Be ashamed and then be out the door, where the air is free.

    • Sid (Phil)

      The tech works to entrap or hypnotize but so far no Clears or OTs. Definitely the PR tech is a big fail. You should be able to see that one for yourself.

    • aquaclara

      We respect your own thoughts. Think about it. You could have a life free of the kind of stress Scientology puts its members through. You could visit family and friends, take a walk in the park or on the beach, enjoy a yummy turkey dinner on Thanksgiving. No sec checks. No pain. No fear. No possibility of ending up like Lisa because of the horrendous treatment she received by Scientology.

      Walk toward your own life. Just out the door. Wishing you the best. Happiness awaits.

    • Mockingbird

      Any scientific validation would be cool. Science Of Survival has charts that detail medical conditions and tone levels. To be real they would have taken decades of research with thousands of people being tested by thousands of doctors and nurses and enough records to fill a warehouse.

      None have EVER been found because the research never occurred. The tech is a fraud.

    • Huh, Kent State University (Kent, Ohio) doesn’t list LRH in their philosophy department. Nor does Akron U. He’d probably be found in the criminal justice department for being an unindicted conspirator in operation snow white.

      YOU keep an open mind. You refuse too. We understand you’ve been brainwashed. But somewhere, lurking, YOU are still in there!!!

    • kemist

      I don’t know which planet you live on, but it somehow does not seem to be the same as mine.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I’ve been around the sci scene over 40 years. At least 90% are gone or fled scientology. If you are still in, then you have a responsibility to see to it that the abuse and the financial fraud and the crimes are put to an end. What are you doing to stop it and get your organization out of the criminal band? If you were applying ethics tech 100% KSW completely, you would know that he gave you the answer on what to do. Yet nothing is being done. Those who have done their duty as scientologists, who have actually followed policy and applied the ethics tech are now out and trying to put things right.

      What you are doing right now is not only squirrelly, it is not the right solution. It’s not even the right problem. There’s no more time for this nonsense. You don’t know the history of ethics tech. I DO. You need to find out where you really are, my friend, and it is NOT in scientology. I know that’s confusing, but then, that’s the condition, isn’t it? You are informing yourself not honestly and definitely With bias, so you probably just make great efforts to avoid the Doubt Condition at all costs. This is a major error on your part. Start there.

      There are many of your fellow friends that are at this very moment being harmed in many ways. It’s time you stopped making everyone else responsible for the condition scientology is in, and started doing something about it. I sincreley hope you make it out soon as it is only getting worse. If you do, you have all of us who will help you with your recovery. You might want to look up Stockholm Syndrome as a second step. Good luck and please take care of yourself.

      • Liberated

        Well said Mr. Hole.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          thank you, although Mr Hole is my husband. He probably would say the same.

          • Sherbet

            Bless me, Holey, for I have sinned. I, who almost never engages with a scientology apologist, have burned out my hands and keyboard challenging “One Who Cares” to absolutely no effect.

            What is my penance? I shall go forth and engage no more.

            • Frodis73

              Those claims were just too outrageous to ignore…I feel dirty now though. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Sherbet

              If I find it’s someone messing with us, I’m going to jump through the screen and personally throttle that person.

            • Frodis73

              I don’t think it’s necessarily one of us, but somebody random with enough knowledge to do it. They missed the “blow” thing and that is huge. I hope it’s not “one of us”.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              You are responding to a script, hon, typed by a machine. It’s like talking to the Magic 8 ball ๐Ÿ™‚ If anyone is still home inside, truth as scientologists know truth, will ring true. But I am very well aware that some are so thoroughly rewired, they are but a Pavlog’s dog. Sad and scary that anyone and anything can turn another human being into such a state, but it can be and is done.

            • Sherbet

              The business about Lisa being on drugs and having a car accident really put me over the edge.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh my, I missed that Sherb. Well, if it is someone messing, as you say, that person has to have some serious mental problems. If it’s a scientologist, they most likely were fed that false line and just parroting off that script. Either way, I’m not going to waste getting mad about someone who may be in serious need of help. Tough days, tough days. But it’s good to be able to talk it out. That is something they never ever get to do.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks, sweet pea. I needed to be talked down from the ceiling. As my old boss used to say, I’m wound tighter than a $2 watch.

              Well, this has been fun, but I’m off to the Smithsonian. I hear the lrh exhibit occupies a whole building wing. They needed plenty of room for all his lies.

              Over and out.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              That’s the way – Sherb, leave them laughing and wanting more!

            • Sherbet

              Spoken like a true artiste.

            • Frodis73

              Btw Hole. I got to listen to your wonderful song through some kick ass speakers finally. It sounds even better when I hear it they way you meant for it to be heard. I still love it and cannot get it out of my head.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Oh cool – yeah, table or puter speakers can be rough – especially when it’s a budget project. yay!

          • Liberated

            Sorry didn’t know.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              not a problem – ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Frodis73

          Mrs. Please go listen to her song.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0fDEE7PyhA

          • Qbird

            I LOVE LOVE LOVE THIS SONG!

      • Amy Forsythe

        Great response, thanks.

    • One Human

      Please share how the tech has worked for you.

      • George Layton

        It enhances your vanity and brings about a delusional state of mind 100% of the time.

        • One Who Cares

          It is a fair exchange and our money goes to help mankind all over the world.

          • kemist

            That’s how Miscavige calls himself now, mankind ?

          • Qbird

            How come it didn’t help Lisa McPherson?

      • One Who Cares

        It has helped me in all parts of my life and my job.

        • Sid (Phil)

          And yet no Clears or OTs ever made. If it’s just a bit of self improvement then why so expensive?

        • One Human

          Specifialy please as generalities could mean a great number of things, or diminish actual gains.

        • kemist

          So did nice, free walks in nature.

          I think I got the better deal, somehow.

    • Amy Forsythe

      You are putting us on, right?

    • Eileen

      Go to any university philosophy course offerings, LRH will never be mentioned, his books are not studied anywhere, keep an open mind.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again in your honor, Dude looks like a Lady.

  • Observer

    Ladies and gentlemen, one of history’s greatest men:

  • Observer

    One of history’s most brilliant medical experts:

  • Observer

    One of history’s greatest humanitarians:

    • One Who Cares

      Thank you for posting that, now others will see
      Where are you on the bridge?

      • Frodis73

        You need to read that a little closer my dear.

      • Observer

        You’re very welcome. I certainly hope others do see.

      • Observer

        I don’t need the Bridge. I am free to see, think, feel and speak as I choose.

        • One Who Cares

          Congratulations, you’ve made it to the top. It must feel so wonderful.

          • Observer

            I do! And my financial solvency is the icing on the cake.

            • One Who Cares

              good for you, it is nice to know that others understand. In time we’ll get everybody to know the real truth. LRH was a Brilliant and Caring man!

            • George Layton

              What went wrong with the scientologists that were caring for Lisa? Any ideas?

            • Sherbet

              She said “it never happened.”

          • Robert Eckert

            Going to the top of a bridge is a very bad idea. When bridges are put into a straight up and vertical direction, you should stay off of them.

            http://www.sun-sentinel.com/local/broward/fort-lauderdale/fl-naked-bridge-man-20150522-story.html

            • Robert Eckert

              he had to pawn his clothes to give the money to the reg, how do you think he got so far up the bridge?

  • Observer

    One of history’s most truthful beings:

  • Frodis73

    Well, that was interesting! I have heard some crazy claims from clams, but the claims made tonight take the cake.

    • Observer

      I’m not convinced it wasn’t someone yanking our collective chain.

      • Sherbet

        I hope not. These last couple of weeks have given me one major raw nerve, and it’s called “Lisa.”

      • Frodis73

        Same here. Too over the top.

      • Illinoisian

        My thought, too. The tone seemed off, contrived, artificial.

      • Always Amazed

        I think there is little doubt.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        I think you’re right Obs-but on the plus side, I got [a complete set some] of your Ron-humanitarian series of shoops, thank you ๐Ÿ™‚
        [Edited]

        • Observer

          You’re welcome, but there are quite a few more than I posted

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            Cool-I think they’re brilliant, can’t wait to collect them all ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Observer

              Thank you!

            • Sherbet

              Observer is going to issue them in sets, like baseball cards.

            • Always Amazed

              She should sell them, they would sell like hot cakes

          • Eclipse-girl

            You know you could sell sets of them ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Came too late to the troll party, but I wondered the same reading through this person’s comments. Their user name is Jazzlovet. Hasn’t someone been messing with jazzlover lately, using his user and screen names?

        • Frodis73

          Yes!

        • Robert Eckert

          That’s the “Spoofer”, most recently was JAZZLOVER in all caps trying to pretend to be jazzlover

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Well, this person seems to have a variation on that as their user name. Seems likely it’s just somebody messing with us for shits and giggles.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Hey, been meaning to say: good to have you back, sir!

        • salin

          Good Catch. That snaps it – troll.

      • salin

        If so – kudos to him or her – on a job well done per keeping in role. I think I just enjoyed the distraction real clam or chain yanker.

  • Spike Robinson

    I’ve updated my “Big Blue” graphic to have a bit more blood and death, because they gave my beloved Lego a black eye through associative guilt…

    The text is, loosely in latin: “knowing what I know, I can’t imagine not being a critic.”

    Do. NOT. Mess. With. A. Menopausal. Scorpio.

    Add Jenna Elfman to the list of people I want to see in orange jumpsuits. Oh, Jenna, can you say: “complicity?”

    • Frodis73

      Love your do not mess with a menopausal women comment. Lol, truth!

      • Spike Robinson

        Well, when I gets riled up, I gets riled up…

      • Sherbet

        Do not mess with a Bunker woman!

        • Spike Robinson

          And suddenly, all I could think of was Jean Stapleton, saying “Oh, Aaaaaaaarchie!”

          • Sherbet

            Haha! We will not stifle ourselves!

            • Spike Robinson

              not so much “will not” as “cannot,” but, sure, I’ll go along with that…

            • Sherbet

              I am woman, hear me…post.

          • jazzlover

            “Boy the way Glenn Miller played…….”

            • Spike Robinson

              guys like us we had it maaaaaaaade……

            • jazzlover

              dose were da days ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Robert Eckert

              and you knew who you WAEAEARE then

            • Always Amazed

              Girls were girls…..

            • Robert Eckert

              …and men were men…

            • Robert Eckert

              Songs that made the HIT PARAAAADE

            • jazzlover

              Used to watch the show religiously as a kid. The fictional address was 704 Hauser Street in Astoria, NY — the place of my birth ๐Ÿ™‚

          • JanInThePan

            “It’s Lionel Jefferson, Aarchie!”

  • JanInThePan

    Gods.. between Tony’s post today, whoever that clam was that showed up here, the shootings.. feels like the world is tilted off its axis again.

  • One Who Cares

    Thank you for the conversation.
    this is how I feel and hope ll you women will feel this at some point.

    When you’re a skinny child of fourteen

    Wide with braces from ear to ear

    You doubt that you could ever be appealing

    Then hallelujah, you are fifteen and the braces disappear

    And your skin is smooth and clear

    And you have that happy grown up female feeling

    How lovely to be a woman, the wait was well worth while

    How lovely to wear mascara and smile a woman’s smile

    How lovely to have a figure that’s round instead of flat

    Whenever you hear boys whistle you’re what they’re whistling at

    It’s wonderful to feel the way a woman feels

    It gives you such a glow just to know, you’re wearing lipstick and heels

    image: http://static.urx.io/units/web/urx-unit-loader.gif

    How lovely to be a woman and have one job to do

    To pick out a boy and train him and then when you are through

    You’ve made him the man you want him to be

    Life’s lovely when you’re a woman like me

    How wonderful to know the things a woman knows

    How marvelous to wait for a date in simply beautiful clothes

    How lovely to be a woman and change from boys to men

    To go to a fancy nightclub and stay out after ten

    How lovely to be so grown up and free

    Life’s lovely when you’re a woman like me

    • Sherbet

      Bye bye, Birdie. Fly away now.

      • Ruby

        Have you heard about Hugo and Kim?
        ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Sherbet

          Hahaha! I was in that show a few years ago. (Played Kim’s mom.)

          • Ruby

            I watched that movie about 100 times growing up. I loved it! Still do.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Those who view Ann-Margaret as their “Source” have got to have IQ’s about 100 points higher than those LRH drones. I suggest she (One Who Cares) sticks with Broadway show tunes and forgets about the CO$ ๐Ÿ™‚

        https://youtu.be/O1ilu-ARtiY

    • Liberated

      Can’t wait til Tony O gets a load of you.

      • Eclipse-girl

        Tony O has a light hand.
        Tony oO will not remove the comments. “One Who Cares” is likely to delete there account and that will remove their comments.

        • Liberated

          I never thought he would remove her comments. I just meant he’s gonna get a big kick out them.

          • Eclipse-girl

            my apologies for not understanding what you meant.

    • kemist

      Ok…

      • Supper Powers

        Perfect.

    • Frodis73

      There is so much more to life than being a plaything for a man ya know.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Wait! Is this true? I must have a talk with Mr Hole tonight. I think he may have been misleading me all these years.

        • Frodis73

          Well aren’t you glad I cleared that one up for ya sweetie?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            i definitely owe ‘ya

      • perth’sup

        ” Why I oughtta………..”

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I like your baseball cake with the 6 candles. What’s your favorite team and how did they do this year? Mine tanked. And, you love jazz (jazzlovet)- Contemporary, or vintage? – I like a lot of vintage from the 40’s myself but crazy about latin. Got a favorite jazz instrument? Okay, I just gotta ask: What’s your stance on Diana Krall – awesome or awful?

    • salin

      Focus on the last word, in the second to last line. “Free” it is precious. Freedom of thought. Freedom of learning/reading. Freedom of deciding for your self. Freedom of self-determination. Good luck – prize freedom, and when restricted ask why and seek freedom.

    • Vaquera

      Howdy says hello.

  • Safe Thursday to all.

  • Liberated

    Maybe she had to go see a man about a horse, wait Maybe a horse about a man. Who cares she’s gone.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Wasn’t it Jenna who wanted a man hung like a horse? No, it was a horse-hung horse. I always get those confused.

      • Liberated

        Me too , but that’s exactly what I meant.

  • Jaden Smith and his book of Xenu… here’s Michael K’s from DListed best bits:

    โ€œJaden sees himself as a modern-day prophet and is working on a collection of essays. Theyโ€™re new takes on string theory and chaos theory, but more mystical. Jaden thinks he has spiritual ties to people in other dimensions and galaxies, and they are helping him write. He hopes to have a spiritual following when he releases these.โ€

    So basically, heโ€™s writing Dianetics for Kids!

    See, this is what happens when you mix together a privileged rich kid, Scientology, zero discipline and a never-ending supply of the good shit. You get a future cult leader who will preach to his followers about his hot take on chaos theory as they shop for jersey t-shirt dresses and get froyo.

    “http://dlisted.com/2015/12/02/prepare-to-be-fully-enlightened-jaden-smith-is-writing-a-philosophy-book/

    US Magazine has also picked it up http://www.usmagazine.com/celebrity-news/news/jaden-smith-sees-himself-as-a-modern-day-prophet-w158807 but doesn’t mention scientology [but Google News alerts picked it]… however people in the comments do… which is interesting in the fact that Google News alerts was pinged by “scientology” in the comments, not in the body of the text!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I’m sorry. I can’t fit Jaden in my brain tonight. There is No room left for this sort of thing. Full up!

      • TexasBroad

        Agree! I can’t even click the link. Sigh.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          That’s saying something for this crowd, ain’t it? Jeez

          • daisy

            Only so much self induced crazy for one day.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I’ve already decided to take my mental shower in the morning – coffee and bagel on the beach – sync with the dolphins’ breakfast hour – I need to have a chat with them about nothing in particular. Deep cleansing breaths, etc etc

            • Rasha

              If they say anything – ANYTHING – about Vogons, tell me!! I’ll pay you for the call!

    • JanInThePan

      There aren’t enough facepalms in the world for this. Not that I have hands to do one. So I’ll settle for *Facefloor*

    • perth’sup

      Insufferable little twat.

    • Frodis73

      I am sure there are professors around the world just waiting for this magnificent piece of work to be published. Jaden will show them the errors they have made and clear everything up. He is *just* like lrh. Where the heck are his parents? This kid needs a frickin wake up call.

    • Rasha

      There are things worse than Jaden, but fortunately, many have been eradicated by a comprehensive plan including vaccines and antiseptics. Just sayin’. Won’t read his vowel movements tonight. Just not gonna.

      • Frodis73

        Vowel movements? Love it. rotf

      • daisy

        Stealing Vowel movement .Don*t expect credit.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          thinking same – this place is a treasure trove of comic relief

        • Rasha

          ^_^

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Rasha has been in fine form today. Where’s my upvote rock for this one?

        • Rasha

          LOL! That was a fun episode, no?

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            It was HORRIBLE! What kind of through the looking glass hell denies you an upvote button?!

            But yeah, it was also hilarious.

            • Frodis73

              Btw. all my comments were stuck in moderation! I tried starting a new post, replying to you guys and nothing was happening. I was in the ether. I was cracking up at the upvote rock though.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Aw, that sucks. You should just post them all here now. Everyone else’s are lost to the winds of time. Or cyberspace. Except for the upvote rock. It’s timeless.

            • Frodis73

              I don’t have copies or I would…I should have saved them. I wonder if they will show up in my email account eventually.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Or if Disqus will suddenly dump them all into a random conversation. That could be fun!

            • Rasha

              It’s that sort of optimism that makes it all worthwhile…. ^_^

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Ha! Well my glass is half-full of upvote rocks and I need a place to put them. ; )

            • Rasha

              There nother one. Glass mostly full.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Rasha kind, Rasha generous…

            • Rasha

              So many fallen comments – good, fine ones, all – were lost this day.

            • Rasha

              THAT WHY ROCK!!! MAKE VOTE UP!!

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              I’m gonna laugh every goddamn time at that for here on out.

              Look, I’m still laughing. Can you see?

            • Rasha

              XD

      • Robert Eckert

        If you don’t move your vowels, you’ll get consonated.

        • Rasha

          Fricatively speaking…….

          LOL! Nice one, Robert! XD

        • daisy

          I said Come back. I didn’t say be funny.

        • cedilla
          • daisy

            I would offer a nice stool softener , no need for extreme measures.

          • Rasha

            Trying to come up with a witty comment, but I can’t stop giggling like a 5th grader…. XD

            • cedilla

              Light that match.

    • Eclipse-girl

      when scientists examined the evidence that Galileo presented they did not think he was crazy.

      The church was upset and isolated Galileo because his evidence threatened their teaching, that the universe was earth centric.

      • Libertylover

        The Church was the State and that was the problem.
        It’s not so hard to understand, we have people alive today that think the world is 6000 years old and man lived with Dinosaurs, Scientology is not the only place where crazy ideas pass as fact and are believed as such.
        Galileo wasn’t the first to think the the earth revolved around the sun, other people had figured that out thousands of years before.
        We have no idea about what we don’t know but admitting that is the first step. Most people want certainty to some degree, like Lawrence Wright said “crushing certainty.” It just doesn’t exist in real life, you have to be comfortable with knowing you just don’t know.
        I hate it when science is trashed because it doesn’t know but there is nothing better to get to the real truth. Jaden Smith is a deluded fool, shame on his parents but he is just full of that certainty that he knows what we all don’t. arrogantly ignorant kid, shame really.
        Smart guy once said
        โ€œThe greatest deception men suffer is from their own opinions.โ€
        โ€• Leonardo da Vinci

    • cedilla
      • Nat-leficent

        It’s like a running joke thing, right? Like Bugs Bunny?

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      He’s so dope. And what a dope he is!

  • Rasha

    Jeepers, step out for a bit, and everything gets …. interesting. In typical Bunker fashion. Synopsis! Where is it?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Jaden ate it.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Crap, I just snorted my wine!

      • Rasha

        …and no doubt spewed it out like half-digested refrigerator-magnet poetry set…. sigh…..

    • daisy

      Diskopolis Best part of the day.

      • Rasha

        What I love about the Bunker is the spontaneous adaptability, or, as some more wise than Rasha would say – “ADD”

    • TexasBroad

      I only came in to see if Derek got a response to his letter and if I could get a link to Tony’s spot today and was completely sidetracked by wackiness. Now I’m tired and have to go to bed…any quick answers for me?

      • Robert Eckert

        It’s not likely that Tony’s spot aired today with the wall-to-wall coverage of the blood and gore. Maybe tomorrow? The only responses we have seen from Legoland are form letters replicating the unsatisfactory blurb Tony updated us with yesterday. If they are going to come up with a response to Derek they had better sit down and be thoughtful.

        • TexasBroad

          Thank you Robert…just catching up on today’s news also. Sad and scary.
          I hope for such a letter for Derek – he deserves that thoughtful response, but I’m not holding my breath. Even if they hold the same PR line, I do hope it sent some people to the internet to do some real research.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        Seriously. I thought I’d pop in for a few minutes for a quick check-in. That was, like, an hour ago. I should know better by now.

  • there are cults… and then there’s this cult…. [no source I’m afraid]

    pic

    • Rasha

      YAY! OT IX is released!!!!!!

  • the explanation for the shooting just came in…. how stupidly fucked up is this!?

    One of the gunmen who shot up the Inland Regional Center in San Bernardino was at a holiday party at the facility earlier Wednesday … got into a dispute, then came back with his “buddies” and opened fire … this according to a well-placed law enforcement source.

    An LAPD source who has been well-briefed tells us, one of the gunman showed up for some sort of Christmas party for employees of the San Bernardino County Health Dept. The party was being held in one of the conference rooms that was rented out for the event … and when the gunman returned, he went to same room and shot it up.

    We do not know the nature of the dispute or why the gunman was at the party, but we’re told the man was either kicked out or left voluntarily … then came back with his friends.

    pic

    • Frodis73

      WTF?

      • Eclipse-girl

        I heard a similar report from NPR.
        How messed up do you have to be to leave, and return to a holiday party with rifles?

        Remember this is very early in the reporting of events.
        This story could change.

        My thoughts are with those who lost their lives and are injured.

        • Frodis73

          Yeah, I’m really wondering about that because they allegedly found an explosive device of some kind…what kind of person just keeps those things on hand? Again, that isn’t confirmed, but if true that seems to point at planning ahead. Then again, people are nut jobs. It’s just so very sad. Oh, I also heard one of the suspects if female.

    • Rasha

      There is no… way….. to wrap one’s head around what cannot be fathomed by even a moderately impaired sanity. One guy snaps – okay, we’ve seen it. One guy snaps, then gets his “buddies” to agree to come back… taking time that would naturally give one pause to think, “Wait – wut? Really?” and consider the insanity and only outcome … and they arrive and do this, because he was at worst kicked out of a party? There’s more going on, I fear, but I do not have all the facts. I am very torn up about the souls lost in these events….

    • Always Amazed

      A reported as verified , on local KTLA , shooter is Said Farooq, he was a county health inspector, and he was the one who came back after the altercation. They also detonated a bomb that was left there. They have just gone into the apartment with a robot. One of the suspects, that is also deceased, was a woman.

      Eta: reported by KTLA

    • scottmercer

      I’ve seen this reported multiple places, but we really don’t know everything yet. I’m sure him leaving the party was part of it, but we still don’t know what part. I think the Police still don’t even have all the pieces put together.

      • Always Amazed

        You are so right. It will take a while, that is for certain

  • for any commentator here who has ever thought of creating their own blog or site but wasn’t quite sure what to base it on here’s an idea I just came up with… I think it could actually be quite popular… you’d have to be familiar with twitter but the daily/weekly upkeep would be pretty easy to do

    pic

    • … further explanation to the idea

      pic

  • Nat-leficent

    That “one who cons” doesn’t sound like a real clam to me.

    • noseinabk

      Long ago we had a person who would write in code ( Cypher ) and everyone would be worked up about the trolling. The answer was always marcabian or marcab confederacy. One night I solved it but couldn’t explain it and I know the poster enjoyed the explanation as well as the discovery of the joke. Maybe it’s my fault he quit. ๐Ÿ˜•

  • Vaquera

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8nWVLp3s7k

    to add:
    for Lisa
    for Derek
    for Baby’s candle gif
    for All needing a little light on their way

    • Rasha

      Thanks, Boots. <3

    • noseinabk

      Good to see you. I was just thinking today that we should give you a poke if you didn’t post soon.

  • cats….and aliens!

    https://youtu.be/-Gz8Kzi8xW4

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Just got home from the Eddie Izzard comedy show in Orlando. What a funny, thoughtful guy. He’d fit right in here.

    • Liberated

      Love Eddie Izzard

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    OT: Carmen Llywelyn recently posted to her blog about what recovery from scientology was like for her. I found it very moving and thought I’d share. This description really stood out to me:

    “I read that recovery can be like a rocket taking off into space. At first, itโ€™s all that combustible, explosive anger & defiant energy that launches the metaphorical space craft off the ground. Eventually, the bottom part of the craft sheds away & the next rocket boosters kick in. It needs less fuel, less anger & now has the advantage of momentum.”

    https://carmenllywelyn.wordpress.com/2015/11/30/come-as-you-are/

    • daisy

      I as a never in, always appreciate when exes explain their experience in understandable analogies. I am exhausted being angry in the bunker. I could definitely see how the anger must remain but lessen in intensity. Time everyone*s equalizer.

      • Liberated

        For being someone who has never been in, I think you are wise.

        • daisy

          Thank you. I have several friends and family I would like you to meet.

          • 2theMax2

            Betrothal?

            • daisy

              1 wish

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        I do, too. It’s helpful to see the nuances of the experience from those who’ve been there.

        • daisy

          Pan has a video ( I will not spoil it ) 2 minutes that explains the exes experience, if I don*t remember it ask him to post.

    • OTD:OutTheDoor

      Thanks for the link. She is a great writer and takes a noble position. Will definitely follow her blog.

      • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

        You’re welcome. I agree–she expresses herself well and seems very sincere.

  • OTD:OutTheDoor

    Just shows how many fucked up people are right here in the USA. Who needs cults like ISIS when we have our American Taliban, gun nuts, Trump supporters, Planned Parenthood bombers/shooters, young boys all full of murderous fantasies, etc. Most of the above, lest I forget, are white Americans. The era of Timothy McVeighs has arrived. Everyone load up on weapons this holiday season. That will keep us all safe.

    • 0tessa

      Yesterday, California, 13 killed in centre for social activities by three gunmen …

  • daisy

    Apologies to Baby–I have been trying to get my mother into anti- scientology . She has no desire to learn. I went to the library and put Trouble Maker in her book bag. My mom is usually as sharp as a tack, unless she has had a seizure. This was the case for the last couple of days. I set her up in the couch with the book., I noticed she was reading it and was happy she seemed to share an interest. Upon further investigation I realized she was reading it upside down. Sorry Rasha and Sherbet she got the biggest laugh of the day.

    • nommables

      Daisy-you made me gasp out loud! I thought you were saying you’ve been trying to get your mother INTO Scientology! Gah! The MS brain fog is thick tonight! ๐Ÿ˜‰
      ETA: I see you even wrote “anti-scientology”…der…yeah, let’s blame this one on the MS!

      • Eclipse-girl

        I read it that way , too

      • daisy

        No you were right I changed it after . Sometimes forget to edit before posting.( I don*t have an excuse, well maybe day drinking, hope you are keeping well.)

    • Liberated

      Daisy, I thought about your comment, I think I might have an answer. Since you have never been in the cult, your mom has no context of association. You’re attempting to show her the atrocities of said cult, and Leah’ s book really has no meaning for her since you never experienced those things, but Lisa McPherson certainly did. Have her read the horrible events of Lisa’s last days on earth, under the care of those monsters. That will surely touch her heart and her sense of injustice, and she will become outraged like the rest of us. Hurry up and answer me I’m running out of juice.

      • daisy

        I am so sorry to make you wait. I did not realize you wanted an answer until now.. While I think your ideas are excellent I am not sure in this stage of life 85 hrs. she is just not into learning .She used to be a reader of all types of books but now I noticed she seems to enjoy fiction and escape novels. I thought Trouble Maker read like a fiction. While she has not probably watched TV for anything other than the news , she had heard of Tom Cruise. The book had that delicious gossipy vibe I thought she might get into. I am still hoping after the confusion. I got her to watch Going Clear, her reaction was *meh*?? She has a stubborn streak and likes to frustrate her daughter. Thank you for the suggestions, I will definitely keep trying ( same stubborn streak ) Maybe you can help me with my sister…..

        • Liberated

          Now I get it, stuff about Lisa would be way too much .

          • daisy

            exactly, Did you notice I said 85 HOURS I am going to leave it , it made me laugh. Insomnia is a bitch.

    • Sherbet

      That’s very funny!

  • Vaquera
  • salin

    *Snap* *snap*…. some early 90s Diggable Planets. Rebirth of Slick (Cool like Dat.)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM4kqL13jGM

    • Vaquera

      Hi salin. I haven’t been commenting as of late, but want you to know that you’ve been in my thoughts.

      • salin

        Deeply appreciated, Vaquera. Trouble winding down tonight. Not ready to lie awake in the silence this evening, so am waiting to get tired.

        • Vaquera

          Right there with you, hon. Deep breaths.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Whoa…flashback…And now I’m 20 all over again.

      • salin

        It’s cool like dat!

    • Frodis73

      I haven’t heard that song in forever. This came up when it was over. Like 5ft said, total 90’s flashback.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGusP7aCCYc

  • otherles

    A few minutes ago as I write this an ignorant narcissist posted the following on this otherwise sane blog:

    “Just shows how many fucked up people are right here in the USA. Who needs cults like ISIS when we have our American Taliban, gun nuts, Trump supporters, Planned Parenthood bombers/shooters, young boys all full of murderous fantasies, etc. Most of the above, lest I forget, are white Americans. The era of Timothy McVeighs has arrived. Everyone load up on weapons this holiday season. That will keep us all safe.”

    I could say a number of things about this post but I would be missing the point.

    Not only is this individual a collectivist he is a racial collectivist as well. He defines a person by their race and imparts beliefs and actions on them solely on that basis.

    Racial characteristics are not chosen and therefore irrelevant to human actions. What is subject to choice is a personโ€™s beliefs and the actions derived from those beliefs. And for the record McVeigh himself was a racial collectivist who rejected human rights and human reason. As a result he rejected human reality. The actual Patriot Movement at that time fully rejected McVeigh, his beliefs, and his actions. This rejection was based on the actual moral values that were actually chosen.

    And speaking of language the words โ€œgun nutโ€ is a pejorative term used to dehumanize a firearms owner and justify lethal acts of state violence against them.

    This poster apparently feels good about his own murderous fantasies. Given what Hubbard wrote in his work the Science of Survival he should feel right at home in the Church of Scientology.

    • Frodis73

      I can’t speak for the OP, but I think you missed the sarcasm.

      • otherles

        I have to disagree with you there. When anyone calls me, a Caucasian American gun owner, a murderer I take it seriously. When someone denies my very humanity I take it very seriously. Dehumanization of a specific population is historically a necessary step preceding the act of mass murder.

        Am I paranoid? Perhaps I am. But I would rather be a live paranoid than a dead victim.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    As expected, the CO$ has started using the Paris terrorist attacks for there own PR…
    “Church of Scientology Hosts Interfaith Service in Memory of Paris Terror Attack Victims”
    (refresh)

    • daisy

      All those heads and not an original thought in any of them, even collectively.

      • Sucking from Hubbard’s leaden man-boobs.

    • Liberated

      God what a horrible day——- Fuck me —-just when I thought it couldn’t get any worse.

    • OOkpik

      Puke!

    • Kay

      gag. gag. gag.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        โ€œThe truth is that those who claim to use โ€˜religionโ€™ to justify their terrorist actions are really godless criminals.”

        Yep, and if the “godless criminal” shoe fits, Rev. Roux…

    • B4you

      Even this is staged for the picture, the news and documentation. Fake!

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      … and which (by some sort of ironic calculus) was hosted in Belgium, where their trial for fraud and practicing medicine without a licence is ongoing.
      What a bunch of opportunistic frauds they are.

  • Nat-leficent

    OT: Cool version of this song https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNKbuHwIImo

    • Jimmy3

      Go sit in the emo corner and listen to this.

      http://youtu.be/6bD9t44JUD4

    • daisy

      ๐Ÿ™‚

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      So many versions of this song, but this one is really well done. Thanks.

    • vicariousthrill

      Thank you for turning me on to Lisa Hannigan!. Just spent 45 minutes listening and following.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I don’t know what to make of this…

    https://twitter.com/ShaunJefford/status/672150534996922368

    https://twitter.com/ShaunJefford/status/672160380043452416

    https://twitter.com/ShaunJefford/status/672162002396033024

    https://twitter.com/ShaunJefford/status/672276367161954304

    Found this: http://www.theleader.com.au/story/2208645/world-record-lifted-high-for-shire-powerlifting-champion/
    “WHEN Australian powerlifting champion Florian Loock began preparing to try to break a world record this year, he enjoyed the support of his mate and gym business partner, among others.

    That was until two weeks ago.

    At the bottom of a cliff they found the body of his mate, former St George Illawarra rugby league junior representative Ben Azzopardi, 24 of Caringbah.

    “It shocked me and so many others,” said the German-born champion, looking around the Ultimate Training Gym at Kirrawee that both men ran, and adorned with trophies, ribbons and photos of them with famous sportsmen.

    “Ben was not only my business partner but also one of my best mates. He did it tough, I know that, after a bad shoulder injury wrecked his promising league career a few years ago.

    “But he seemed happy to all of us. I know he was as excited as I was about my record attempt. So his death hit me like nothing ever before in life…” (April 10, 2014)

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      This is an odd story made even more strange by the tweets. I dunno…

    • Baby

      Ben Azzopardi’s name appears on this list..itsaline 12:10 Sept 12 2006 But that would make Ben 15..of course it could be his dad..

      confusing.

      http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=14041

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I wonder if this guy is the one also mentioned there? – JOSHUA AZZOPARDI (10 December, 1985 – 25 November, 2012) Son of Ursula and Larry, step-son of Richard. Brother of Paul, John and Anthony.

        The Azzopardi’s recently lost a son when Josh Azzopardi passed away last week. The family has also has been battling other long term illness for many years…” http://www.moshtix.com.au/v2/event/city-kid-benefit/62384

    • Spike Robinson

      Could someone please confirm this? I’m still working on my “memorial” list. Those who wish to see the current list may see it here:

      https://phoenyxrose.wordpress.com/those-who-died/

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    What a day. I was down in LA for a couple of appointments when I got a text message from Mrs. D telling me about the horror in San Bernadino. Traffic was snarled, everyone is wary, and I had to follow what was going on on news radio.

    It’s good to be home.

  • Spike Robinson

    Sorry for the re-post, but I’m still angry enough that this has been going through my head all day.

    MY version.

    Jenna Elfman, can you say “complicity?”

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjA08kPD3_0

    • Spike Robinson

      This whole Lego thing has cut me deep, friends.

      I mean, seriously, even my one-armed Lego dude is hanging his head in shame.

    • Baby

      Wow.. Fabulous Spike.. You are funny, creative, sensitive and very talented. What a fabulous combination of Traits! Perfect song.

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks! it’s a pleasure to put what talents I might have to good service. Much better than acting in ONE sitcom and then grossing people out with my loser husband, accusing people of raping babies and … oh, don’t get me started!

    • daisy

      love this , thank you for rreposting

    • vicariousthrill

      You are brilliant. Is Bono into Scientology? Please say it ain’t so!

  • Fink Jonas

    Jenna Elfman is a SCAMMER.

    • OOkpik

      Ya Fink so?? ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Liberated

    As this awful day comes to an end, I’m flipping channels on the TV and Schindler’ s List comes on. Well, I know there’s some incredible irony here , but I’m too tired, too pissed off , too upset to articulate it. So, tomorrow is another day. I’ll get up read more of the slow moving accounts of Lisa’s murder, and hopefully not another mass shooting in the world, and maybe then I will be able to speak of such matters. So, goodnight friends, see ya.

    • OOkpik

      There is still beauty in the world.
      Goodnight, Liberated. ((hugs))

  • 2theMax2

    Disqus went all Type III PTS on me with Max Spaceman’s account. It got so private, I can’t git in eeeet

    I am… I’m your puppet. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Juicer77

      Chico!!!! xoxo

      • 2theMax2

        Chico the Cat is ‘not’ a happy camper, that I chose to spalsh his face all over the Interwebz.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Spalsh? Now there’s a happy typo! It’s like a Lewis Carroll invention– a special splash, so to speak.

        • Juicer77

          He is worthy of worship, and should just accept it gracefully. XD

          • 2theMax2

            Yes. (Am so jelly beyond enduring that you moved to the UK and we didn’t)

            • Juicer77

              ๐Ÿ˜‰ Hey, baby, wanna curl up with a good book and snuggle? (f5)

    • OOkpik

      ๐Ÿ˜ฎ Poor Max. He’ll be missed. ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • JaxNGold

    Lisa’s dying – right before their eyes – and her “caretakers” are fucking around with smashed bananas and supplements. It’s just beyond belief. I wanted to scream when I came to the part about how Rita Boykin wrote “Lisa knows we’re trying to help her”. Help her?!? If only they’d stopped playing doctor and taken her to the nearest hospital, she’d still be alive.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Cal-mag? well, High Blood Calcium puts on at greater risk for blood clot problems. http://blog.parathyroid.com/high-blood-calcium-risks/

    • B4you

      This doctor is talking about operations of a gland going hyper, not the intake. But interesting reading!

    • B4you

      One should know that the Cal-mag is based on 4 ingredients Water – Calcium – Magnesium and organic cider. Acid and Alkaline mixed together so the Ph value is around neutral (7) or it would taste sour or alkalic. It’s not really a big deal.

      • Leigh Andrews

        A neutral pH does not do anything to eliminate the calcium or magnesium. Common sources of calcium and magnesium for use in supplements are calcium carbonate and magnesium oxide. Calcium citrate could be used, but you would need roughly twice as much to provide the same amount of calcium. Calcium citrate does have the advantage of not affecting stomach acid. They need the vinegar to increase solubility, because the solubility of calcium carbonate is only about 0.013 grams per liter in water alone. The solubility of calcium citrate in water is 0.85 grams per liter. They should also be providing 2.5-3 times as much calcium as magnesium.

      • OOkpik

        The cal-mag I had to take tasted highly acidic.and the calcium was powdery but tasteless. Cal-mag and orange juice on an empty and upset stomach is a recipe for disaster.

  • Margie8

    They ran out of fucking money? They ran out of money, seriously? So, they didn’t even spend any cash while killing her, her keepers had to also worry about finding money to feed her and drug her? Disgusting.

  • OOkpik

    New post is up.

  • Lighthouse

    Great letters by Derek Block and chukicita.

    I feel sure that Lego, if they have not yet issued the cheque, will refrain from doing so. If it’s too late and it was done before Jenna did her number, I’m sure that they will have taken cognisance of the facts and will review their rules about paying anything out to “charities” before due diligence is done.

    I doubt there will be any public declarations for obvious reasons.

  • Jgg2012

    As to Lego’s policy that “we don’t discriminate”, i.e. they give to whomever the celebrity asks them to, would they make a donation to a white supremacist group or a porn group if a celebrity asked them to?

  • Did this and tweeted it to Lego… didn’t somebody else have a terrific letter they sent to them and posted here… if someone could repost or link to it that would be nice

  • Rita G

    Derek, great letter!