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Scientology’s next move in forced-abortion lawsuit: Deposing defectors

[Claire and Marc Headley, Astra Woodcraft, Nora Crest]

We finally have an update for you on Laura DeCrescenzo’s forced-abortion lawsuit against the Church of Scientology, which is nearing eight years since she filed it in 2009.

In September, Scientology lost an appeal to the California State Supreme Court, which affirmed the trial court’s decision to deny Scientology’s second motion for summary judgment in the lawsuit. This cleared the way to a trial, but it still looks like it’s going to be a long time before Laura gets her day in court.

No trial date has been set, but discovery is proceeding, and we’ve learned that Scientology’s next move is to pull in several familiar names for depositions in March.

We confirmed with Marc and Claire Headley, Astra Woodcraft, and Nora Crest that they have all been notified that Scientology is pulling them in for depositions that will take place in Los Angeles.

It might not surprise you to hear that they are not thrilled about it.

“They’re just fishing for information. And they’re trying to get as much current information on us as possible, and they’re just using up more time and expenses,” Claire Headley tells us.

Claire did know Laura while they were both in the Sea Org, but she says she really doesn’t know anything that is pertinent to the lawsuit. “I knew of her and I’d seen her a few times. But I can’t really remember a conversation I’d had with her. We worked at completely different locations.” Questioning her won’t shed any light on Laura’s case, she says. “Not to mention I gave four days of depositions over a two year period in our own lawsuit all about abortions. I’ve already told them everything.”

She says she’s asked that Marc be left out of the grueling days of questioning, but so far it looks like he’s going to be pulled in as well.

“Why would they have such a hard-on to depose Marc in Laura’s case? He absolutely did not know her there. It makes no sense,” she says.

Marc tells us he thinks he’s going to be pulled in simply because Scientology can’t miss an opportunity to question him. “Every time this has happened, they never ask me about the case, it’s always just about gathering intel,” Marc says. “They just want to know who I’ve been talking to, emailing, whatever new stuff they can dig up to add to their hate websites and Twitter accounts.”

Astra Woodcraft says that she did work with Laura at the Hollywood Guaranty Building while they were both in the Sea Org.

Nora said she wasn’t looking forward to being questioned, but she did spend considerable time working with Laura.

“I worked with her directly for almost the whole time I was on the RPF. Both of us ended up on the RPF’s RPF a couple of times together,” Nora says, referring to the Sea Org’s prison detail, the Rehabilitation Project Force. “So for almost the whole two and three-quarter years I was there we worked together in some capacity.”

Nora described a hellish existence on the RPF’s RPF, the lowest a Sea Org member can go without being “offloaded” and kicked out. Nora drank bleach in a suicide attempt and was then offloaded and out of the Sea Org. Laura herself did the same thing not long after.

Now, Nora will have to relive all that while being roughly questioned by Scientology’s attorneys as the Los Angeles Superior Court continues to put off Laura’s trial date.

 
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Getting Sirius about Scientology

We had some fun yesterday on the Jim Norton and Sam Roberts show on SiriusXM. Our portion starts about the 57-minute mark. After our portion, the crew had on Bob Odenkirk — hey, and we got to meet him as he was going in. What a pleasure.

 
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HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,666 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,263 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,303 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,015 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 482 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,600 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,770 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,090 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,065 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 421 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,723 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 830 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,232 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,105 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 686 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,191 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,435 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,544 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on February 17, 2017 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
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GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
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  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Real Time w/ Bill Maher starting! 🙂

  • Tony Ortega

    “He’s fucking nuts and he’s dangerous and they know it.”

    • Liberated

      I know…agent orange, funny!

    • What’sup

      We talking about Trump, Dave or the Greek hate monger?

      • Robert Eckert

        Works all three ways.

  • Tony Ortega

    The 2-state solution: “It works for me and Melania!”

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    They love these crazy distractions!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    The new head of the EPA hates the EPA…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    The Press Conference… a 77 minute brain fart…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Of course, a long, long, whiny… pissing and moaning… less pissing and moaning when w/ russian hooker… (LOL)

  • Tony Ortega

    Bringing out Milo first.

  • Is this Bill Maher show live blogging?

  • Tony Ortega

    That was weak, Bill. No one has a “right” to be invited on your show.

    • Frodis73

      Wish I was watching this.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Spoiler alert: Milo is gay

    • Frodis73

      He’s an ass hat too! 🙂

      • Liberated

        I’ve seen this guy less than 5 min. and I already hate his guts.

    • Mockingbird

      He’s Travolta gay. That’s where a gay man or woman helps a terrible group that is against gay people but gets pity from some people. The helping of anti gay activities isn’t excused by being gay. No free pass for being gay.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    B: So many things I could start an argument w/ you about…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    “We have both been disbarred @ Berkeley!” HA!

  • Don’t know the show’s format – how soon Leah will be there?

    • Tony Ortega

      After a panel, then her.

    • Liberated

      She’s last.

  • Frodis73

    I was going to tell everybody to watch Dateline with an update about “Making a Murderer”. I thought Leah was on at 11p. Oops!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    One area I’m little bit concerned when you go after people personally…

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      “Ghostbusters” actress…

  • Tony Ortega

    The main reason this is really weak is that a good introductory piece about who Milo is and what he’s said would have really helped. But this show doesn’t do that.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    “Some people would say you have incited…”

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Milo loves mean twitter tweets…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    “This is a little British impish fag”… HA!

  • Tony Ortega

    Sad to see Bill sticking up for Milo here when he could be hitting him with tough questions. Weak.

    • Liberated

      Yep!!

    • Frodis73

      That is disappointing.

  • Liberated

    This guy’s a young gay totally obnoxious Rush Limbaugh.

  • Tony Ortega

    Bringing on the panel now.

  • Tony Ortega

    Larry Wilmore, you’re our only hope. Hit Milo with a decent question, fer crissakes.

    • Liberated

      Malcom Nance is a cool guy.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      That would really be funny if his name was some kind of anagram of “Obi Wan Kenobi.” With an almost hit on T. Ortega = Leia Organa…..

  • Liberated

    If I never see Milo again….that’s ok.

    • April

      He is truly an insufferable asshole.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Malcolm: This may possibly the biggest scandal in history…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    B: The scandal is that Russians fixed the elections…

  • Tony Ortega

    I’m remembering why I don’t watch this show. I hate this format.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    B: The people in the intelligence agencies are not liberals, so when they’re leaking, you know they’re freaked out!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Larry: What’s going on is there’s a complete assault on the Truth…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    B: We need people like John McCain to step up and put Country before Party…

  • Liberated

    Here we go.

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      Yay LEAH!

  • Tony Ortega

    Leah looks fabulous, of course.

  • Tony Ortega

    Now let’s see if Bill takes on a bit of an adversarial role here.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Bill is such an Admirer of what Leah is doing!

  • Tony Ortega

    Bill gives Going Clear a shout out.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    B: Fate chose you!

  • Tony Ortega

    “You’re giving a human face to this awful cult.”

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    It’s about Families and the Damages it does…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    We thought we were helping!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Under the spell of doing good for the World!

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    One of the first times saw anything was when watched “Religiulous” documentary!

  • Liberated

    His movie Religulous…was Leah’s first clue.

    • Frodis73

      Oh, did she see that? Can you elaborate on this more?

      • Liberated

        Well, she was discussing how hard it is for an “in the cult” person to even look at the internet cause if you happen to see something you shouldn’t, you have to report it. She said “why bother, its more trouble than it’s worth”
        Watching a movie, well that’s different….and she saw “Religulous” thinking it’s just a movie and Maher came down heavy on the cult and she started to think….hmmm.
        She hadn’t done OT 3 yet (I think) so she was naturally intrigued.

        I’m gonna try to find “overtime w/Bill Maher” on utube now…maybe you can too.

        • Frodis73

          Thank you so much, that helps. I can’t watch it til tomorrow anyway. I wish I could remember what he said about sci in his movie…I have seen it prob 3x, but it has been awhile.

          • Liberated

            I’m sorry I told ya to watch overtime, I just saw a bit and stopped.
            That Milo character is an unbearable, despicable asshole, I wish BM would have left him out and kept Jeremy Scahill.
            I didn’t see Leah at all on OT.

            • Frodis73

              I think the rest of the show will show up tomorrow or sunday on youtube.I take it that Milo creep got 2 segments then? The usual part and then on OT? Fuck that douche nozzle.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    You don’t know until $300,000 later…

  • Dylan

    Leah. You should always talk to someone who was in.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Reminds bill of Communism, snitching, disconnecting, etc.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Church thinks outsmarting press…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Problem is self-brainwashing…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Required to study two and half hours a day…

  • Dylan

    Plus Chinese school for all staff. Self brainwashing.

    • pkatz

      Hi, Dylan. If you are Sylvia G’s Dylan when you were at Twin Peaks base did you know Suzan Wilmshurst? She told me she was HCO Sec at a remote and very quiet SO base and didn’t know exactly where she was. Hard to believe, but I didn’t press her on it. Her son, whose name I’ve forgotten, may have been there also. Take care, pk.

      • Dylan

        we should talk.

        • pkatz

          Fine by me. My question was out of curiosity only, and I know no more than I’ve said. Sue has a current fb page, and judging from a quick glance at her friends she’s still in. I haven’t seen or spoken to her since 2005. I knew your mom a little from the SO in the early 70s. paulckatz2000@yahoo.

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Tom Cruise talk…

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Singlehandedly clearing planet…

  • Tony Ortega

    “Clearing the planet? He couldn’t even make Jack Reacher a hit.”

    • Mockingbird

      Steven Hassan is really getting through to her.

    • Lena

      I know it’s a joke but I think a movie making 218 million on a 60 million is a hit. I wish people would focus on his association with Scientology and leave his career alone.

  • Jimmy3

    I’m even more of a reminist tonight. She can hang

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Bill wants to play for exes: “What a Wonderful World”… (Louie Armstrong)

  • Liberated

    I love you Leah!!’

  • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

    Leah’s out… Bill’s moved onto his “New Rules” section…

  • iampissed

    Interesting.

  • Len Zinberg

    It’s so close to falling…

  • Tony Ortega

    I told Leah she did a wonderful job.

    • Jimmy3

      Ask her if she calls her fans reminists. And if not, ask her if she will.

    • Mockingbird

      She did a terrific job. Bill Maher actually came off okay in her segment. He was more informed and considerate than he usually is. I am happy Leah Remini didn’t get tied up on the panel.

      Bill Maher gave Leah Remini and her show great exposure. He of course shit the bed with Milo completely. He sometimes is completely out of touch on some issues in my opinion including Islam.

      He did pretty good on pointing out the potential treason by Trump and the real problem of partisan enabling by the gutless republican collaborators. If Hillary Clinton was president and this happened they would make destroying her their highest priority. If the democrats had majorities in the Senate and House this would be going the opposite way.

    • April

      This doesn’t include Leah’s segment though. And I had to listen to that fucking insufferable asshole Milo Yiannopoulos.

      • Mockingbird

        Can’t we just get rid of the alt right neo Nazi crowd ?

      • I apologize April. That link was to the live show and when the part was past we got the rest …

  • Recap anyone?

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)
      • Paul V. Tupointeau

        Much thanks :-))

      • Mick Roberts

        Thanks a ton for the video.

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      I was trying to do a recap, but it was taking me too long… Thankfully I found the youtube! See below! 🙂

  • Observer

    Apologies if this has been posted, but I just saw it and cannot stop laughing.

    http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/02/16/christie-trump-made-me-try-meatloaf.html?via=mobile&source=copyurl

  • Faux Gibbler

    Why is it Scientology can depose anyone who they want but Miscaviage is is untouchable?

    • Mick Roberts

      Wondering that myself, especially in this particular case. It seems to me that he would be the one with the most knowledge on the policies of the organization regarding abortion for Sea Org members during the time Laura was 17. He has been “Ecclesiastical Leader” and COB for over 3 decades now. He could testify as to the practices of the church regarding those particular policies during the time she says she was coerced into having an abortion by members of the group that he leads. DM’s testimony as an expert about these policies of the organization during that time could certainly provide insight as Laura’s attorneys go through the discovery phase.

      • Liberated

        That’s all true, but the real reason DM won’t sit in the witness chair is cause his feet won’t touch the floor.

      • Mick you are correct however the church will argue that DM is far removed from the ‘lower org board’ and they wiggle out of it.

      • Faux Gibbler

        Exactly.

    • Dave Reams

      Touching Miscavige? Eeeehhhhh : (

  • madame duran

    Leah Remini talking with Bill Maher:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YxvPtWAymGU

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Thank you Madame, as I didn’t get to see the show. Best of Bill Maher.

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