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Countdown to Room 174: Remembering, in real time, Scientology’s grimmest scandal

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Right around this day twenty years ago, Dallas resident Fannie McPherson, who was then 70 years old, had her last telephone conversation with her 36-year-old daughter Lisa.

Two years earlier, Lisa had moved from Dallas to Clearwater, Florida when the company she worked for, AMC Publishing, moved there with all of its employees. AMC catered to the insurance industry and was a WISE company — owned by Scientologists and run on Scientology principles — and the move brought the company to Scientology’s spiritual “mecca” on Florida’s Gulf Coast. Lisa had been a Scientologist since 1982 and had done very well with AMC, making $136,000 in 1993. But after the move to Florida, she began to struggle, not only at her job, but also in her attempts to move up Scientology’s “Bridge to Total Freedom.”

By the middle of 1995 Lisa was so frustrated she began telling friends that she was through with Scientology. But then she gamely made another attempt to make progress on her case. As the holidays neared, she again talked to a friend in a way that made it sound like she was leaving Scientology. She said she was planning to be back in Dallas in time for Thanksgiving.

And then, around November 12, she called her mother, sounding distraught. Through tears, Lisa told her mother that she had been having difficulty making sales.

“Mother, I’ve let my group down,” she said.

That was the last time Fannie heard from her daughter, who died three weeks later, on December 5.

The strange circumstances of the death of Lisa McPherson became one of the biggest nightmares for Scientology in the organization’s history, leading to years of criminal and civil litigation, and a new level of public scrutiny that has never really subsided.

Through December 5, the 20th anniversary of Lisa’s death, we’re going to be remembering the many interesting and distressing parts of her story with the help of Jeff Jacobsen and his excellent website on Lisa, with Janet Reitman’s masterful account of Lisa’s life in her 2011 book Inside Scientology, and by talking with the people who knew Lisa and lived through the complex aftermath of her death.

We hope, if you have memories of Lisa McPherson and Scientology’s reaction to her death, that you’ll drop us a line — particularly if you have never gone public with your information before.

Tomorrow: When Lisa went Clear.

 
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BOOK NOTES
3D-Unbreakable

We didnโ€™t get a chance to include photos in our book, so weโ€™ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Our book tour is concluded for now. (But you can re-experience it through this nifty interactive map!) We’ll let you know about future appearances. Previous events: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24), Phoenix (9/15), Cleveland (9/23), Minneapolis (9/24), Portland (9/27), Seattle (9/28), Vancouver BC (9/29), Sydney (10/23), Melbourne (10/25), Adelaide (10/28), Perth (10/30)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 12, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Acherontia

    Poked around JJ’s site a bit about Lisa. Very sad. I only looked at the hand/feet/wrist photos. That poor woman. I’ve read a bit before and will read a bit more later when I’m not at work, but I hope that by the end she was out of it enough to not feel a tremendous amount of suffering. ๐Ÿ™

    I finished Jon Atack’s book the other night- since watching GC this spring I’ve read 4 books about scientology; Going Clear, TUML, A Piece of Blue Sky, and Troublemaker. Would be interested in hearing any other recommendations for books, whether they’re related to scn or cults in general. Look how deep into the rabbit hole I’ve gone!

    And to end on a lighter note. This was on Mike Rinder’s blog and I laughed my ass off when I saw it this morning- SNL’s spoof of the “We Stand Tall” video, a “Neurotology” music video:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fOpapeX6Vzs

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      ‘Blown For Good’ by Marc Headley is very good, and of course ‘Beyond Belief’ by Jenna Miscavige Hill.

      • Acherontia

        Oh! Derp, I’ve read Jenna’s book. Will add that in post ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn): Thinking jinx…

    • Mockingbird

      I recommend Cults Inside out by Rick Ross, Cults In Our Midst by Margaret Singer, Recovery From Cults, Take Back Your Life, True Believer by Eric Hoffer, A Theory Of Cognitive Dissonance by Leon Festinger, Bare Faced Messiah, Freedom Of Mind, Influence by Robert Cialdini, Age Of Propaganda , Trances People Live ( to describe hypnosis, it has a therapy I do not recommend ), Social Psychology For Dummies and Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism. Off the top of my head.

      • Acherontia

        Wow! Great list, thank you ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Mockingbird

          Enjoy and in Cults Inside Out Rick Ross has a great detailed list of books with descriptions of their content and authors.

        • Shelly Britt Corrias

          I’m late but for narrative personal type stories, which explain a LOT, I recommend: Counterfeit Dreams by Jefferson Hawkins
          Blown for Good by Marc Headley
          Abuse at the Top by Amy Scobee
          My Billion Year Contract by Nancy Many
          It’s my pleasure to know these authors so maybe I’m biased (kidding), but each story is unique and very well told. They are all available on Amazon.

          For a blockbuster of condensed stories and videos, the Truth Rundown Series by the Tampa Bay Times. Here is a link to the series’ main page. I have some videos on there too. ๐Ÿ™‚
          http://www.tampabay.com/specials/2009/reports/project/part1.shtml

          • Acherontia

            thank you!

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      “Inside Scientology” by Janet Reitman goes into depth about Lisa MCPherson. That was the second book I read about Scientology. The first was “A Queer and Pleasant Danger” by Kate Bornstein. Other than the ones you listed – try “My Billion Year” contract by Nancy Manny and “Counterfeit Dreams” by Jeffrey Hawkins.

    • Liberated

      Back in the 90’s I bought a bunch of tell–alls exposing that horrible cult at my favorite book store Half Price Books . They were new, not carried at other retailers. I’ve always been proud of my score.Besides the ones you already have check out. Religion Inc. by Stewart Lamont, Messiah or Madman. by Bent Corydon, and of course Bare . Faced Messiah by Russell Miller. Also, the Cruise bio by Andrew Morton, there’s some juicy stuff in it and yes, Miscavaige really is his personal pimp. Good luck!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist
      • richelieu jr

        Erm.. ‘Barefoot”? ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • Things that make no sense:

    Domain Name: NARCONON-CLEARWATER-FLORIDA.COM
    Creation Date: 2009-10-05T21:47:34-05:00
    Registrar Registration Expiration Date: 2015-10-05T21:47:34-05:00
    Registrant Name: Levent Onart
    Registrant Organization: Narconon of Arrowhead
    Registrant Street: HC 67 Box 5
    Registrant City: Canadian
    Registrant State/Province: OK

    • Acherontia

      A Canadian city and a US state??

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Wait…what? We’ve got Clearwater, Arrowhead, Canada and Oklahoma. That’s one tangled scam right there.

      • salin

        *and* an expired registration?

        • Rasha

          immediate expiration, too…..

          • They’re in the grace period, then the scavengers move in.

    • aegerprimo

      Weird.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Interesting. Perhaps Narconon of Arrowhead now in Canada has been established to move country of registration for legal reasons, out of the USA.

    • Rasha

      Ah. (slaps forehead) “Canadian” is the name of the city. I did not know that.

      eta: Does not explain the registration date and expiration date.

    • order66

      Native Oklahoman here. Canadian is a tiny town of less than 300. I assume it’s named after the Canadian River. I guy I grew up with lived there once. That’s all I got.

      • order66

        The Narconon Arrowhead facility is nearby at Lake Eufala.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      And then there’s Levent Onart – White pages lists him in Delaware, but former Candian, OK. Only smatterings I can find of what he does is vague internet marketing and stuff. But where he’s listed as Narconon employee, lists Fort Smith, Arkansas, Etats Unis. And then there’s a Facebook where he had Turkey ….relatives or friends? Oh vey!

      http://www.yatedo.com/p/Levent+Onart/normal/ad3058d989a59dfe04f6e199cb206f1b

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)
    • StudentOfLife

      What’s great about this is the Judge. They don’t call it LieIntology for nothing. The LieIntology lawyers have already claimed previously to the judge that the plaintiff claim of paying $3,700 Euros for the Rundown is rubbish. Check this questioning out of Bernadette who is a hard core Scilon. Can’t wait until Hurricane Monique and Hurricane Laura hit. Every Scilon that testifies will have to admit as Bernadette did that Hubbard claimed he scientifically tested everything so it must be fact. This Judge should be studied as to how to cross examine the Scilons.

      Judge Rรฉgimont changed tack, asking how much the Rundown cost.

      Sold as part of a package, with two sets of intensive auditing (12 and a half hours each) it would cost 150,000 Belgian francs, Bernadette answered (about 3,700 euros).

      That struck the judge as interesting. He mentioned the name of a Mme B., the very first plaintiff, whose complaint had effectively launched the investigation against Scientology.

      She had said she had paid 150,000 Belgian francs to do the Purification Rundown (around 3,700 euros). Yet all the Scientologists had told investigators at the time that the price Mme B. had cited was nonsense. Now, from what the defendant had just said, it seemed plausible.

      โ€œSo this plaintiff is perhaps not talking rubbish,โ€ he said.

      Read more at:https://www.byline.com/project/28/article/588

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I love this judge. And I love Jonny Jacobsen. … Okay. And I love Tony… And Paulette, and Paul. And Leah. And Tory, and Karen, and Marc and Claire, and J Swift, and and and…

        • StudentOfLife

          There is something exciting about watching and sharing in people truly fighting for freedom, whether it was watching the Berlin Wall fall or just the slow mudslide that has resulted in the worst Hurricane season of bad PR that will likely take down an entire criminal syndicate masquerading as a religion. DLHDM will have to leave one way or the other by the end of 2016 I predict (even though Tony would likely strongly disagree). Tony probably has a well coordinated strategy thought out by preparing for the 20th anniversary of Lisa McPherson’s death taking advantage of Hurricane Leah’s death march through Miscavigeland. Now the entire non-Scilon world will soon know that the psychopath David Let Him Die Miscavige had to pay millions to hide his personal role in the death of Lisa McPherson. Tony is pouring gasoline on the growing fire that will result in the exodus of members from this horrible organization.

          When I met Nora Crest in person, then anonymous, I saw a joy and appreciation for life and a love for her children that was truly inspiring despite the raw anger and valid resentments that will only be healed by love and and eventual sadness that can only be felt so much at a time. She inspired me to want to help. I met a few ex’ers who bared their soul when I introduced myself as a Bunkerite at the Hollywood premiere of Going Clear, and then met more including Tony and Paulette at the first TUML signing…..these people I have met along the way who barely know me are risking a lot to tell their stories. I admire their willingness and desire to connect in a search for truth and meaning to understand how if they were taken in by the cult how best they could heal. Would love to hear the opinions of the Time Mag reporters from the early 1990s who in some ways started the ball of string rolling that is about to take down an entire criminal syndicate. No one fears COB, Chairman of the Baneful. No scotch can drown his trembling fear as the next Hurricane behind Troublemaker puts this coward in his place as the laughingstock of the world when anyone tries to defend him.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            So well said. I would love to hear from the Time reporters. Also from the IRS folks there at the time…

    • SuppressedPerson

      Awesome report! This judge is not having their “It’s a religion. No, it’s a science! No, it’s science and um…No it’s a spiritual practice. Oh no, it’s not medicine” bull-oney. He seems to know the score.

  • Mockingbird

    Busy day Bunkeroos. I just found an interesting quote in an article.

    .Why shouldnโ€™t I joke about cults?

    Itโ€™s insensitive, for starters. When you make light of abuse, you add to the stigma surrounding it. So when survivors try to speak up, they are ridiculed, silenced and not taken seriously. Please โ€“ before you call a movie a โ€œcult classic,โ€ or joke about how Romney supporters โ€œdrank the Kool-Aid,โ€ think about how you are making it harder for survivors, like myself, to be taken seriously when using that word to describe our real, lived experiences. Cults arenโ€™t funny to those of us who have to live with their aftermath. In fact, cults can be deadly.

    • Acherontia

      What article is this from?

      • Mockingbird

        At the bottom is a link.

        • Acherontia

          Ah, I wish disqus updated live. Thanks.

    • Rasha

      Did the poster give alternatives?

      • Mockingbird

        They gave good basic info. The videos I posted earlier today by Margaret Singer and Daniel Shaw describe how to treat cult members and what they go through.

    • daisy

      Oh MB I just want to hug the hurt out of you.

      • Mockingbird

        I have long accepted that people joke about what they don’t understand. I know it bothers others and actually makes tremendous problems for some cult members and exes. It is one of the issues Doctor Shaw in my earlier post describes as hurting cult members and freezing trauma.

    • aegerprimo

      Mockingbird…. you rock in so many ways. โ™ฅ

      • Mockingbird

        Thanks, I am just an ex cult member, like most folks here.

    • Acherontia

      Jokes about/in relation to serious issues (eg cults, racism, rape, etc) is one of those topics that I’m interested in and have read a few articles on, and have questions about, but as I’ve never been in a cult or affected by the other things, I’m always afraid to ask any questions because I don’t want to offend anyone or hurt feelings unintentionally.

      • Mockingbird

        I suggest trying to think through how you would feel if you were asked the question for guidance. Certainly askor Google it if it might be offensive. The internet won’t be offended. But do ask and be sincere.

        • Acherontia

          I understand how things like mean names for members (eg. Sea Borg, Sea Ogres) etc are offensive, because the people in could very well be great people stuck in a shitty cult (although that seems to refer more to the organization itself rather than members, it seems to be applicable to members too). Or how referring to members as brainwashed, robots, etc is offensive because it’s attacking people who have been sucked in and undergone thought reform, trauma, etc and lost who they are. I think those types of things are referred to as “punching down” in comedy, by using vulnerable people as the butt of the joke.

          What are your thoughts on “punching up”, though? By making jokes about the leaders, about the absurdity of policies or otherwise using humor to bring the cruel people down a notch. Bullies HATE being laughed at. A couple of articles I’ve read about jokes re: racism or rape brought up interesting points about joking regarding either- how telling a joke ABOUT someone’s race or raping someone is a different thing from telling a joke about rape culture or racist people.

          I know you can’t speak personally for every current or ex member of scn or any other cult, but what are your thoughts on joking about the terrible people in management, or topics like that? I don’t think jokes about DM or TC’s height are funny- they can’t help that and there are plenty of other things they say/do that deserve derision.

          I guess I’m curious if cults and other serious issues are just purely off topic for humor, ever; or if they are matters that require more thoughtfulness and for the person making the joke to be joking about those who deserve to be brought down a notch vs beating down on the vulnerable for laughs.

          Anyway, sorry for the ramble- I hope it made sense and I didn’t hurt you at all. I’m truly curious what you (and any other ex members here) think about this topic, and if I said anything dumb, please tell me ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Mockingbird

            I know there are different schools of thought. Some folks think everything goes as long as it’s anti Scientology in any way. Others say DM and Hubbard are fair game, and disconnection and a handful of policies but not wins or gains.

            I try to mainly criticize the technology and practices. And Hubbard as he created the con intending to enslave people.

            I can’t hold a Grant Cardone up as a sympathetic victim since he has done elder abuse on video and displays extreme narcissism.

          • pluvo

            I’m an ex-member. There are so many different types of jokes more or less funny.
            And then there is genre of satire (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire). I decompressed to a large degree with satire about the cult – it was a relief. Satire is a very good weapon and and can be very effective. It is as much feared as it is fought by all suppressive regimes and their leaders. Fanatics hate satire.
            In Scientology there is even a policy from Hubbard with the title “Jokers & Degraders” according to which joking about Scientology is actionable under the Scn ‘ethics’ and ‘justice’ policies.

        • richelieu jr

          For Xenu’s sake- If you can’t laugh at Hubbard and Scientology, what the fuck can you laugh at?

          My ex and I nearly peed out pants laughing after our 90 minute ordeal at the ‘Free Film’ in LA in the mid-80s.. The earnest presentation of the test results and ‘How much trouble we were in..”, then how they separated us for the ‘film and presentation” and I was seemingly alone in the theatre until a really attractive woman came and sat next to me and as the speaker was droning on about Reactive Mind, etc, touched me on the arm, the leg, whilst saying “OMG!!! I never really thought of that!” and “Wow! He’s right,you know?” looking in my eyes.

          I looked around and saw Ingrid (my ex), several rows back and to the side (blocked by a stand-up poster of Old Cyst-Head (OCH to intimates) with a great-looking guy next to her giving her the same treatment..

          And then the verification of address, coordinates and 5 times if we were ‘really sure’ we couldn’t stay a bit longer…

          Look, I know it probably wasn’t as ham-handed for everyone, but if you wonder why I thought anyone who fell for that song-and-dance was a moron for years (before frequenting the exes among you fine folks), it was largely do tot he HWD Blvd (next to where CoB did his advanced research in SCOHB, presumably)

          That shit is funny, man.

          ร€nd any culties who can’t stand the idea that their old gang of pie-eyed Xenuphobes are worthy of ridicule can go right back and join their friends*.

          This is the real world. Yeah, it sucks, but we get to laugh at shit out here, even watch South Park if we want, without paying a fine.

          And if MIke Rinder’s comments section doesn’t like it, they can sit on a tack and then argue about which snake-oil or crystal or Hubbard memo works best for butt-hurt babies.

          *(and you better believe no one hates being laughed at than that ankle-biting tiny fist waving ass-hat David “Half-Pin of Milk, a Small Fries anda Short-Order of Shrimp for lunch” Miscavige and his proto-penis/fantasy Avatar Tom “Bang-Zip-Zoom! Now don’t be Glib” Cruise, and their endless Ourobourous reach-around…)

          • Mockingbird

            You are free to say anything you choose. Some comments will hurt and offend people. That is inescapable.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Thank you for this post. I agree. (I am a never-in). I also do not like calling DM a dwarf. I know little people and it is offensive to call him a dwarf, since he is not.

    • SuppressedPerson

      I was in the cult that Seinfeld made fun of as the Sunshine Carpet Cleaner cult. I have no problem with that.

      Please, mock away! My cult was a huge joke. I’m just glad I escaped before they could beat me! Or before I had to be the leader’s wife’s “helper”. Others were not so lucky.

      • Mockingbird

        I was surprised when I read about that cult. Margaret Singer saw that and horse cults, hair dresser cults, body building cults. You name it we got it.

  • Jimmy3

    …But why should we worry? Surely things could be worse for you and for me here in the Warehouse.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ARd5FW3jyfI

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      Wow! ๐Ÿ˜€

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks – that was refreshing

  • PickAnotherID

    I’m back. Sorry for the interruption, but backhoes and cable feeds don’t mix very well. Apparently someone forgot the “Call before you dig” number, and decided to just go ahead with putting in the new water main.

    • Jimmy3

      It could have been worse. It could have been shark week.

  • flyonthewall

    Was this posted here yet? Online gossip site picked up Tony’s story about Cruise still being in Sci and going to the IAS gala. It’s dated 07Nov

    http://pagesix.com/2015/11/07/tom-cruise-celebrated-scientology-at-gala-despite-reminis-revelations/?utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=NY%2520Post%2520Newsletter&utm_source=Sailthru

  • coonellie

    OT sort of: Baby C just called me. She was on her lunch break and went to Barnes and Noble to buy me a gift :). She got Troublemaker for me! She said that there were only two left and that the lady said they couldn’t keep them in stock. They’d get in a shipment and within an hour they were all gone…every day. I’ve got a good kid who was paying attention and must have seen me slightly sad that I was #79 on the library loan list.

    • PickAnotherID

      My 6 preorder copies came Tuesday. I gave out 5 to State and Federal political folks at the Vets Day activities yesterday. Included a flyer on the SCOTUS Hernadez decision, the 2,500 lawsuits that got the IRS to cave. At the bottom of the flyer I and asked why, in light of the information in “Troublemaker”, “Going Clear”, “TUML”, etc., $cientology still a) had a tax exemption, and b) still had the right to set “fixed donations” for services that no other church in the US is allowed to do. Waiting to see if there’s any reaction.

      • Juicer77

        Good job!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Fantastic. Really fantastic.

      • coonellie

        You get brownie points and a brownie of your choice – Americana or Nederlander ๐Ÿ™‚

        • ze moo

          No Alice B Toklas?

          • coonellie

            That’s the Nederlander!

      • Frodis73

        That is such a good idea…I wish we could send a copy to every member of congress with that same info and note attached.

      • Lucille Austero

        You are awesome!!!

      • coonellie

        That is wonderful! I’ll have to remember that :). The legislative session starts in a few months, so this gives me time to plan.

        As an aside, it reminds me of why the Jehovah’s Witnesses don’t come on my street (and definitely NOT at my door) anymore. Whenever they would knock, I would politely engage them in conversation (I’ve read their material so I can carry on a conversation), and then when they’d leave, I would follow them to my neighbor’s with them. They would get upset. I’d tell them that these were MY neighbors and I figured they’d want to hear two sides to their story. After trailing them throughout the neighborhood (and them threatening to call the cops), they’d finally leave.

        • Frodis73

          Lol, I love that you did that.

      • Allie

        You made a very significant contribution to the cause. Cheers to you!
        Get those people thinking, asking questions and taking action.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Superb work, Pick!!!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I am so glad about you having the book. You taught Baby C well. But about the library. My library has 69 holds on 7 copies. Do you all think cultists are placing these holds or are they real? This question came up earlier when someone else found a lot of holds at their library, but I don’t remember any resolution. I don’t know how to check on whether these are real people, real holds.

      • coonellie

        I think these are real holds. Usually I’m the one who asks the library to buy a book and then I’m the first on the list. I did that with TUML (even though I also bought a copy), and after it showed up, there were people checking it out (and returning it).

        Of course, we do have quite a few whales (and SO) around here, but I don’t think they frequent the public library. I know all the librarians by name and they know the score (some have even told me they come here every once in a while).

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Thanks coonellie.

        • Allie

          I think they’re real holds too. So many people see the tabloid magazines at almost every store, they’re seeing Leah on tv interviews and websites, they know her from King of Queens, and I think they feel they can relate to her, more so than the creepy Tom C.
          So, And perhaps they saw Going Clear on HBO. So now they want to read the book.
          I was at my local Costco a few days ago and they had stacks of her book and I noticed that numerous people had picked up the book, scanned thru it and put it in their cart.
          Libraries generally purchase new items that they know the public will be interested in, hence the large number of holds on Leah’s book.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            That is wonderful to hear, Allie. Oh wow, I had best to get over to Costco and check out the action in the book aisle.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      WOW

    • Miss Tia

      Damn!! that’s quite a loan list!!! I’m not even gonna CHECK Ohio Link then for it—technically should be available in about 4 months, like I know i’ll be able to get Stephen King’s new book in February….i don’t think Leah’s will be that easy!!

      Glad Baby C got you one!! ๐Ÿ™‚

      • coonellie

        She just brought it home (finally) and she’s all chipper and telling me about her day and I’m like, “yeah, um, ah ha…”. She says, “Mom, I shouldn’t have given you the book until after I told you my news. You’re not listening to me!” She’s right.

  • StudentOfLife

    With Hurricane Leah at #1 on the NY Times Best Seller List, everyone be forewarned. Pan’s next video can’t be far behind. DO NOT HAVE ANY DRINKS IN YOUR HANDS OR CHEWING FOOD WHEN VIEWING THE VIDEO.

    • SuppressedPerson

      Important safety notice! Thanks, StudentOfLife!

  • Mockingbird

    Is now the worst time for Scientology PR wise ever ?

    • PickAnotherID

      Next week will probably be worse. They don’t even want to think of the week after.

      • Mockingbird

        Oh boy.

    • Lucille Austero

      Now all we can hope is that Dave does something to make it even worse. Yaassss.

      • Laura Lou

        OT – I fucking love your username, Lucille 2.

        • Lucille Austero

          Why thank you!!!!

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        It is just a matter of hours before little Captain David Miscavige footbullets himself again. He is so good at it.

      • Frodis73

        Hey, glad to see you back around…folks have been asking about ya…they even used that panties password to try and draw you out. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Lucille Austero

          Oh sorry! Real life getting in the way lately and probably for a wee bit longer. I still try to check in here every day and tweet a little. I’m still here – maybe more in spirit for a while. Hugs to everyone!!!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Glad to see you. Evidently pants have been missing in these parts since I was gone.

        • Lucille Austero

          No worries! I am wearing pants at this very moment!!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thank goodness!

      • One Human

        Comedicaly, but not murderously.

      • Mockingbird

        It is affluence highest ever !

    • Laura Lou

      OT – but I fucking love your username, Lucille 2.

    • Kestrel

      I think so, don’t you? It probably should have been when the FBI raided them and the GO members were found guilty, but back then, we didn’t have news 24/7. We didn’t have access to this news through so many platforms. We didn’t have the body of work that Tony Ortega put together here and at the Village Voice. And they don’t have a reliable spokesperson to stand before the cameras. Those who find their actions shocking and disturbing have a number of people capable of speaking before the camera.

  • PickAnotherID

    There are several versions out there, but his is the closest I could find to what’s on a very old Super-8 video of “McPherson’s Lament”, as played by the piper at the December ’97 a.r.s. Memorial Picket.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3IVd7FDdKxM

  • nottrue

    Scientologist = Leah who……Lisa who….KSW for LRH

    • SuppressedPerson

      Exactly! The blinders are accessories. Even without them, this guy couldn’t see.

  • Some might remember I went to a local bookstore last week and they were sold out of Leah’s book.
    Today I stopped by again and they had it in stock. Hello Troublemaker! Mrs. Dodo started reading it.

    • coonellie

      You working on the Russian translation yet? ๐Ÿ™‚

    • skiesareblue

      What a great read! My sister phoned me today – she just ordered Leah’s book AND The Unbreakable Miss Lovely. She is going to read them and pass them around in her quilting group. I sent her Wright’s book last year, and that is now making the rounds in her community, as well. A friend of my husband’s wants to read Leah’s book as soon as Mr. skies is done with it. The word is getting out there!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Hey, they would make great Christmas gifts, no? And who doesn’t want to open one present early?

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Okay now your sister’s quilting group is on it, we have definitely reached middle America! I love it!

        • skiesareblue

          “Middle America” – is the perfect description. LOL

  • Liberated

    It’s been an emotional day at the Bunker. I will now begin drinking. Cheers!

    • Jimmy3

      It’s been an drinking dar at the Bunker!. I will now beganm emotional! Chairs!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I’ll have some chardonnay with you. Do you have an extra bar stool, or the couch would be fine.

      • Liberated

        Hell yes !

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Thanks – Jimmy3 I know there is room for you too!

    • daisy

      How did 7 minutes pass before I joined you. Fat beagle on keyboard. Scottish toast to LISA. I didn’t know you , but now I do. RIP sleep well, your nightmare is over.

      • Liberated

        I love fat beagles !

  • Supper Powers

    Shoopable Moments with Tom Cruise.

    • Frodis73

      I have to rant for a sec. He is so lucky to be where he is, because lets face it, hes not that good of an actor…yet he has/had a great career and a lot of professional success. Yet this a-hole that *cares* oh so much is such is such a coward and a very cruel person. Its annoying that there is nobody in his life that will/can give him a huge reality check. I think the only non-sci in his close circle is his lawyer. I would *want* somebody in my life to bitch slap me back to reality if I started acting like that. Argh. I just want to wipe that fake smile off his puffy face. I really cant stand the sight of him anymore. /end rant
      sorry about keyboard guys

      • Supper Powers

        F5

        • pluvo
          • richelieu jr

            “And then mama say- Sonny, you no-a touch-a any udda boobies dan mommy’s, you hear? Now- you a-gonna promise me dis, or else you peepee gonna fall off like-a you daddy, and you-a run off in-a shame like-a he done…. An’ I say to her, ‘No-a, mama-mia. I no wanna toucha any udda dan da yours, so help-a me Jesu…!”

            An’ I never do. I-a go to seminary where dere no boobies at all-a. Excepta dose on da blessed Virgin mudda. An’ I no-a toucha dose, needer, head a’ my mudda, I swear! An’ she also viergin… Papa hava da samll peeppee an’ he ร  runna off n’ leave us!

            But momma, she gotta demg ros lolos, dese… coma se diรงe? I saya to her- “Mammma, “Ich Leibe Deine Brรผste” an she laff n’ laff! Mama Austrian, like-a me, afore I become Italian and protecta des pedophiles for a job. Baacka des I no, Itlaian, I Hitler youth. An’ I swear to der furher– SHe had dem big ol’ lolos, der bruste like der Valkieries de Wagner!

            Ah, mama! SHe make-a me sing at Wagner toher when I massage dem bif ol” lolos, like-a dis!…”

        • Frodis73

          LMFAO!! F U Tom!

    • Miss Tia

      “My church lies this much”
      “My wallet was this thick before the IAS event”

      • Supper Powers

        “My bean is this big.”

        • aegerprimo

          Hee haw! LOL

    • Observer

      He’s starting to look like Wimpy from Popeye.

    • ze moo

      The recent pic of TC clearly shows some cosmetic surgery going on. F5 I suspect he is turning into a Klingon. Robert Hammond posted it first.

      • Frodis73

        Omx, he looks horrible here. I dont really believe in karma, but Im going to call it karma and just enjoy it.

    • A Dangerous Beauty

      “I just pooped out a turd THIS BIG. Now THAT’s what we mean by BIG BEING!!”

    • beauty for ashes

      Liberace face!!!!!!!! All he needs is a cleft in his chin!!!

    • Ella Raitch

      My arse is now this big

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The congregation will now rise.

    Let us prey.

    The Gospel According to Panopea

    From The Epistle to the Howdycondeans 47:13

    And the voice spake and it cried out:
    “Cleave land with this ax.”
    And he did, and he did not Miss and it was Lovely.
    For with that ax did he venture forth and fare far,
    yea, even unto far Parma Heights.

    And there was a plague of Lego that came from the South.

    And flies.
    Sarongs were not mentioned.

    Doors were locked and barred and it was like unto a
    double-wide trailer and those without could not gain
    entrance to the Promised Land.
    But a Good Samaritan was there. and he helped the stranger.
    But there was no porridge on the floor.

    And now that ax will be found again even unto these times,
    near unto the Land of Blimps
    in that place the Wogites call “Where the River Burns”
    or Cuyahoga – “place of the jawbone”, –
    hence the gathering of the tribes there
    to chew the cud and jaw and jaw some more.
    JAW will not be among those at the feast
    for he beareth but piss and vinegar.

    There a collection of axes from other great axe-wielders are gathered.
    So too, will the Bunkerites gather there
    after the passing of the cold seasons.

    But the Dark Lord, he who could not cleave
    but was Cloven-Footed though
    Clovis the XXXXIIIX he was not,
    fowl-mouthed he was,
    he of most diminutive stature,
    will continue to seethe and be troubled.

    For he, if he were double-jointed and treating himself like unto
    Jenna of Netflix treateth the stallion of the paddock,
    could not love himself more nor the world less.

    And there will be popcorn and caek.
    And songs. And possibly sarongs.
    Saint James of the Shamrock TriFoliate may even have one
    (slightly used) for sale.
    Mermaids and wizards and denizens of the Dark Web will be there
    and sorcerers but no Sourcerers
    except they be as spies and scorpions hiding beneath rocks.
    And the nights will be filled with ale.

    Ale Mary, full of grace.

    Now and at the hour of our debt,
    Ramen.

    Go in peace.
    Love and swerve that Lord.

    • Supper Powers

      Hell yeah fool ya.

    • daisy

      Ramen , please be seated.

    • beauty for ashes

      Swerving!

    • Vaquera

      Wondrous.

      • skiesareblue

        Good evening, brilliant lady! How were the pancakes?

        • Vaquera

          De’lish pancake sandwich.
          Gosh darn it, now my tummy is growling again.

          • skiesareblue

            I suggest popcorn and cheesies. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Vaquera

              That’s your fortรฉ, mon’amie.

            • skiesareblue

              Cheap and easy. (The snacks, not me of course.)

            • richelieu jr

              BTW– We do not say ‘fortรฉ’..That is American… Nor do we say “Finalรฉ (“fin-Al-ee”)

    • aegerprimo

      I will “make it go right” to be at Howdy-Con. Seriously though, I’m requesting vaycay time NOW.

      http://orionpax.de/23/uploads/photos/Bruce.JPG

      • Miss Tia

        HOORAY!!!!!!!!!!! We’ll have our Radisson page tomorrow, hopefully and I’m gonna have a site with info and a page for people to find someone to share a room with if they want too to lower the hotel cost more.

        • Vaquera
          • beauty for ashes

            Oh yah? lol love love love pregnant Frances in Fargo!

            • Kay

              Me too….. “He’s fleein’ the interview !!! ” (my favorite line) She is hilarious.

            • beauty for ashes

              oooh love your new avi Kay. I used to be a makeup artist! One of the reasons why I like my avi pic was because I used to draw lips on my hand like that for customers !

            • daisy

              You betcha1. Sherbets joke

          • Miss Tia

            for downtown cleveland close to everything it’s very reasonable ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Supper Powers

          Going to email you Saturday about options!

          • Miss Tia

            options? oh wait….you were working on something right? or was that someone else? i should keep track of those things….well i did write that down but i try not to look at my notes before bed ๐Ÿ™‚ you can always phone me too….you have my # right? if not let me know and i’ll send it to ya….

            • Supper Powers

              I want to give you a way to collect funds to assist people to travel in a way that is to crowd funding. I don’t have my computer in front of me but when I do I will email you options. May not be needs but I heard rumbling that people want to help out travelers and they want to use crow funding to do it. But that option is not an economical thing. I’ll holler Saturday.

            • Miss Tia

              yeah, let me know and we’ll brain storm/work something out for people who want to help others……and then work out how to disperse, etc…..we can do that via email/phone and it doesn’t have to be ALL figured out saturday either!!!! so no worries or sweat!!! ๐Ÿ™‚ i had an idea towards that to contribute to your idea….

        • richelieu jr

          Where is it, finally?

          • Miss Tia

            Cleveland! June 17-19 ๐Ÿ™‚

      • flyonthewall

        So cool. I’ve never seen some of those pieces in those colors. Specifically the long smooth one b/w the head and dorsal fin. Never saw that in powder blue, idk even know if in any shade of blue

        • beauty for ashes

          Would you consider making an iconic minifig for a souvenir for all of us to buy? Fair warning, now that I have had this idea I will ply you with compliments until you say yes. ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • flyonthewall

            ๐Ÿ™‚ That’s a tall order, there’s going to be a lot of people it sounds like. And I would never take money from a fellow Bunkeroo.

            • beauty for ashes

              Okay, well you didn’t say no, so that’s positive. I just saw how happy you made everyone with them. ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ ๐Ÿ™‚ It is a tall order though.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yeah! Started saving this week. Hey, that’s cool

    • Shelly Britt Corrias

      Let us prey. lmao

    • flyonthewall

      This made me smile…with teeth even. It’s a miracle!

  • beauty for ashes

    I’m having a “Yellow Wallpaper” moment. Anyone else read this?
    http://www.pagebypagebooks.com/Charlotte_Perkins_Gilman/The_Yellow_Wallpaper/The_Yellow_Wallpaper_p1.html

    This story burned into my brain with such unique horror. Just like Lisa Mcpherson’s, but hers is true.

    I felt bad because I don’t feel emotionally prepared to relive Lisa McPherson’s tragic murder in real time. Then I thought what am I saying to myself? Who Is?

    • Miss Tia

      Posted this this morning, we’re gonna have a hard couple weeks! (F5)

      • beauty for ashes

        Thank you. (((((((((((((((((((((big smooooooshy hugs back))))))))))))))))))))))))))
        If I didn’t have a horrible singing voice I would sing you “You are my Sunshine!”

        • Miss Tia

          You’ve never heard a horrible singing voice til you’ve heard mine!!! ๐Ÿ™‚ Love ya bfa! We’ll get thru the next couple weeks!!

    • aegerprimo

      I remember that story. It was required reading in English Lit. Good story….
      and so insane….. did you see something? Moving?

      • beauty for ashes

        I was seeing an art therapist and was talking about that story, and so she said she would read it. She couldn’t get through it! I was like Wha?!!! I kind of lost respect for her. ๐Ÿ™ I’m like it’s required reading, and you a psychological professional can’t get through it? That was kind of the beginning of the end for her and me. Still makes me sad though I liked a lot of things about her process. I just knew things weren’t right and couldn’t ignore it anymore.

    • Frodis73

      I liked that story, thanks so much for sharing.

      • beauty for ashes

        Yeah Disqus finally let me load this! F5 for collage I made about that story. I had to crop it a lot to get it to load.

        • Frodis73

          Collages are so fun, or they can be.

          • beauty for ashes

            The fabric was a pair of Micheal Kors shorts I found in a thrift shop. This was very cathartic to make. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • richelieu jr

          Who is the beauty?

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I just read that, whoa!

  • PickAnotherID

    Calling it a night folks. Gotta grab some food, take my meds, and go lay down and sleep. All the Vets Day activity yesterday wore me out. When did a 1.5 mile parade start feeling like a 10 mile hike with full pack? Must be getting old.

    • aegerprimo

      Thank you for your service…. and for your parade hike today. โ™ฅ

    • Lucille Austero

      Grateful to you for your service!

    • Supper Powers

      A Vet can never be thanked enough, so I thank you as well.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you!!

    • Kay

      Thank you for serving our country….truly.

    • Always Amazed

      Thank you for your service.

    • Rasha

      I know I’m late, but THANK YOU! I am visiting my Dad’s memorial this weekend, as it is also his birthday on Saturday, and my thanks are to all who serve and have served.

    • daisy

      Also late, moving ceremony in my town and across the country. Thank you. P.S. 1.5 miles felt like 10 mile hike since my twenties.

  • Susan B.

    Reading Lisa’s story in Janet Reitman’s book touched me deeply and really pissed me off. I cried so much after reading about her murder. I’m a never-in but I have experience with just how fragile and innocent a person in psychosis is. Contrary to what the Cult of $cientology will have its members believe, persons with mental illnesses are not evil and not out to destroy others.

  • nottrue
    • aegerprimo

      TKO?

      • Captain MustSavage

        boxing term. technical knock-out. means you win.

        • aegerprimo

          OH! Thanx. โ˜บ
          (Very appropriate.)

          • Rasha

            New avi! Didn’t recognize you!

            • aegerprimo

              Ahh… must be the surgical mask.

            • Rasha

              You make it look gooooooooood. ^_^

          • daisy

            To Keep Vein Open to you and I . I had no idea boxing term ??

    • Narapoid

      Those are fantastic!

  • Glen

    Yesterday there was an article in the Huffington Post about the Rathbun case. I have seen most of the squirrel buster footage on Youtube but this article contained some video I had never seen or heard about. Can anyone fill me in on where that footage comes from. It is from inside the squirrel buster vehicle and shows them in stalking mode filming Ms. Rathbun from across the street. It then shows their interaction with the police, again from the perspective of the squirrel busters.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/scientology-monique-rathbun_5643c56ce4b045bf3dedb789

    • Chee Chalker

      That video was taken by private eyes hired by Miscavige (through attorneys) not the actual Squirrel Busters. The Squirrel Busters are all members of the Co$ (with the exception of the videographer they hired, Bert Leahy, who quit on disgust after being on the job for a couple of days)

      • Glen

        Thanks Chee. But how did the allied private eye’s footage make it’s way public?

        • 9001

          Monique Rathbun’s lawyer Ray Jeffrey introduced it in court. Tony did a story about it http://tonyortega.org/2014/02/19/watch-the-10-minute-video-of-scientology-stalking-monique-rathbun-in-2010/

          • Glen

            Thanks for that link, 9001. I wasn’t aware of that part of the story. As a layman, it seems like Monique Rathbun is going to wipe the floor with the cult when it gets to trial. I was also curious if there was substantial evidence that linked the stupid harassment (sex toys, flowers from lesbian suiters, etc.) directly to the squirrel busters?

            • 9001

              Sorry Glen I can’t remember what evidence there is against them.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I think they threw CSI under the bus by admitting CSI did the surveillance but I am not sure there is specific evidence about the dildo and fake note to coworker. But I think they set up a smear website and I bet that is pretty easy to link back to them.

        • Chee Chalker

          That I don’t know….could.be part of discovery in Mosey Rathbun’s lawsuit… (That’s my guess)
          EDIT to add: Ba-bam! 9001 has the answer…….gee, I wonder where I must have gotten that idea?!

        • richelieu jr

          It was also used in the ‘dueling scilon’ thing for British television…

    • Kay

      All paid for by church funds……nauseating, truly.

    • Narapoid

      Tony is no longer the lone voice of Professional Journalism on the national stage. This incredible site that our proprietor has amassed with way over 1,000 posts of cohesive and rigorously researched stories is a treasure. (As other venues have learned to pinch his work and make their treasure too. Grrr)

      I am glad that “Hurricane Leah” is bringing such an incredible amount of attention (as her “View” video is joined at the top of a story that really does not involve her) that Mosey’s story is now getting a wider audience.

      “Going Clear” has done a lot to fill in the crazy huge back story that Tony spoke of before in a quick 2 hr format. And now with Leah’s book more souls are finding their way to the Bunker. With this sad tale of Lisa’s that this site is going to flesh out, those new to our rabbit hole will learn more of the abomination that is the Cult Scientolgie.

    • Tony Ortega

      That video was not taken by the Squirrel Busters. It predates the SBs by about a year. It was taken by a videographer, not private investigator, who was hired by Scientology but who later felt bad about his involvement and turned over the footage to Monique’s attorneys.

      http://tonyortega.org/2014/02/19/watch-the-10-minute-video-of-scientology-stalking-monique-rathbun-in-2010/

      • Glen

        And that videographer is Bert Leahy?

  • Acherontia

    Just nearly had a heart attack…

    Was sitting across from my sister on the commuter rail. She’s seen/read Going Clear and has a minor interest in scientology. She was watching the SNL We Stand Tall “Neurotology” video on her phone and laughing pretty hard and said she had seen it a while back before Going Clear but now it made more sense. I asked if she liked the ugly sweater they put on the Miscavige-y guy.

    Out of the corner of my eye, I notice the book the guy next to me is reading has a name on the spine: HUBBARD. I thought “OH NO!!! OSA!” But then I realized it was some book about managerial things by another Hubbard.

    You folks who speak out and are ex members, I admire your bravery in sharing your experiences. Thank you for sharing your story with the world.

    • Rasha

      Them Exes are pretty amazing, aren’t they?

      And, yeah – at my job, they have these “take a book, leave a book” shelves around (as if anyone has time to read a book), and I saw that someone had dropped off “Clear Body Clear Mind”, and I was appalled. By the time I went back to “borrow” it, it was gone. Funny how that name starts to really jump out at you, when you realize how toxic Laffey’s stuff is…

  • Miss Tia
    • Sunny Sands

      “Tommy has proven that he can erase anything from his mind. I mean, heโ€™s successfully erased every shred of sanity from his being, so he obviously has the power!” Ha!

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Comments are great also!

        • Miss Tia

          The Dlisters KNOW!!!

      • Miss Tia

        MK is great! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Illinoisian

    Long, busy day kept me away from the Bunker for most of the day and now I’ve got a meeting to go to shortly. Just skimmed the comments pretty quickly and am wondering if ScienceDoc checked in today. If he did, I didn’t see it in my speedy glance through the day. I hope he’s doing ok.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      He checked in yesterday but I haven’t seen him today. Probably resting!

  • Amy Forsythe

    Hey Davey….Whatcha gonna do?……Watcha gonna do when they come for you…. Bad Boy, Bad Boy…..

    • Frodis73

      I hope he messes his pants. And that he is scared. He has scared so many and he gets off on it…so I want him to be frightened.

      • Amy Forsythe

        Think he’s gonna need that new Depends Tech.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        I feel little evil for saying so, but I agree wholeheartedly. I wish that demented little fucker to have the worst case of scared bowels in history.

        • Liberated

          Don’t feel evil he deserves it.

      • beauty for ashes

        I kind of hope he develops chronic spastic bowels ๐Ÿ™‚

  • StudentOfLife

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9f9GmsOAu4 Is this one from Pan? I missed it. Odd that it only has 35 views in three days. No parking reference, lol.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I hadn’t seen that either. I miss that parking sentence! How can it be Pan without the parking reference? And would Pan misspell Rimini?

      • StudentOfLife

        Wow, so Pan has Oscar competition for best Adaptation of an existing feature adaptation in the non fiction caricature category. I didn’t think it was Pan’s because the humor was not as biting. They say imitation is the sincerest form of flattery. Thank goodness we have the original master himself.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Yes the humor was;t the same and there wern;t any swear words or YSCOHB references.

    • pluvo

      No, this is not from Pan.

  • Liberated

    I must stop and take out the trash, after all it is Thursday and want to keep my stats up. Don’t say anything funny for awhile.

    • OOkpik

      F5

      • Liberated

        God, that’s the most funny and scary thing I’ve ever seen in my life. I love you.

  • Frodis73

    Attn computer folks I need some advice. Somebody I know might be able to help with a laptop (since this one is dying) but I really know nothing about them. Is there one specific brand I should avoid at all costs? Whatever I get will be used and I know the variables are huge on this–trust me I get it. My options are *extremely* limited and I was just wondering if there is one brand I should avoid at all costs.

    • Lucille Austero

      Someone I know just bought a $200.00 Dell laptop at Best Buy. It’s a little slow, but if you’re just surfing the net and stuff, it’s a pretty good deal. You could also go with a chrome netbook for about the same $$$, as long as you’re just surfing.

    • Edward Bell

      No. Most laptop companies source their parts from the same manufacturers and are just as likely to break down no matter which brand laptop you choose. When buying a laptop just make sure it has enough oomph to run smoothly and meet your needs.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      The brand “Free” is good! Also you can get a used laptop/chromebook on Amazon for $100 to $150, and new $175

    • Miss Tia

      you might want to wait til around the dreaded day of black friday to see what the sales/deals are—those are ALSO available online!!!!! they’ll be some good deals!!

    • kemist

      If you can get a used “business” model, no matter the brand, it’s generally a better choice.

      They have less gadgets, but the basics (mother board, power supply, hard drive) are often less crappy.

      At least they are the models which my friends who used to fix laptops during their studies saw less often, along with macs.

    • romanesco

      Toshiba is shit.

  • nottrue

    Scientology I thought you were handling Colombia…

    • mon elle

      University or country?

      • Always Amazed

        has to be the country, if it is spelled correctly. Columbia University;)

        • mon elle

          Damn spelling! Should have gone with university or district! ;(

  • exccla

    i heard from a so member who was a s.o. member at that time and a very reliable source that after quentin didn’t quite kill himself, that ron assigned an old g.o. officer to ‘pull the plug.’ he was a ‘vegetable’ at that point and totally relied on macines to keep him alive. to check that out just read what he said to the p.i.’s following his dad.ron was a fuking asshole and quentin had been my auditor and friend. RIP.

    • Always Amazed

      I am so sorry.

  • Supper Powers

    Can someone who is hip or knows pop culture tell me something? Is this really Macklemore & Ryan Lewis with IAS participants? I’ll remove once I understand to avoid confusing others. Thanks.

    • Supper Powers

      Removed.

      • flyonthewall

        are you going to cook super supper in Cleveland?

        • Supper Powers

          Strong possibility.

          • flyonthewall

            ….

          • Miss Tia

            now we have dozens of places to eat at friday, a group dinner saturday….no need for you to cook!!! (if you want to bring baked goods or something—depending how you’re traveling—we can work that out!!! )

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Mmmm supper from Supper Powers. ๐Ÿ˜€ Together we could whip up a slammin’ gumbo.

            • Supper Powers

              Yep! We can take turns stirring the roux and breaking with wine, stirring the roux, braking with wine.

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              That would be fun but no kitchens in the Radisson so…maybe another time. ; )

  • Kay

    Looking at the picture of Lisa McPherson just makes me so sad. One of the first things that led me into researching Scientology was her death, the autopsy results, the peculiar “change” in the stated manner of death by the medical examiner, and the fact that in all the years I worked as an ER nurse I NEVER saw a young woman of this age die from sheer lack of food and water….not even someone from one of those shady “facilities” where sometimes abuse/neglect occurs involving adults who have impaired mental status. I had never seen her face pre-incarceration at Ft. Harrison, just the autopsy photos. Today I see her photo in the full bloom of health and young adulthood, smiling and happy. There is no way I can adequately express my renewed outrage at this. RIP Lisa McPherson…there are many here who will never let what happened to you be forgotten, ever !!!

    • Mymy88

      M.U.R.D.E.R.E.D.

    • daisy

      I have the unfortunate opportunity to have seen many dead bodies. Usually death is a blessing for a diseased ravaged body. I was truly jarred when I stumbled upon her morgue pictures ( what a special grace it must have been to want to protect your loved one, to seeing the bigger picture to prevent other deaths) She turned me from a casual interest to a desire to stop this. I only recently have seen her pictures of vibrancy, even more jarring. This has to stop. This woman*s life MATTERED.

  • PerpetualOutflow

    Just picked up the People mag issue with Leah on the cover and noticed the editor’s letter about her in the opening few pages. Apologies if someone has already made this point, but while he has some great things to say about Leah and her book, WHAT was he thinking when he wrote, “The truth is, it works for some people. Scientology is not unlike a 12-step program; parishioners are encouraged to rid themselves of resentments and insecurities by examining their past. It offers helpful communication tools and, like most religions a sense of community.”

    There is nothing innocuous or beneficial about confessionals that are taped and written down to later be used against you. Too bad he didn’t watch NCIS LA’s “Church of the Unlocked Mind” episode. Maybe he would have understood the inherent betrayal and con involved if he had.

    And $cientology offers a sense of community? Really? How does that work when you can’t trust anyone to be a true friend and you know that even your spouse, children or parents will write you up in a heartbeat? If that’s community, no thanks.

    It works for some? Yes, just as Ron intended…they become enslaved and give him all their hard earned money.

    No excuse Jess Cagle.

    • Ella Raitch

      Just read an article for Confidential (?) in which Alex Gibney is gain calling on Tom Cruise to address allegations of human rights abuses.

      Alex says it’s about ‘the deed, not the creed’ – I love it when a good communicator comes up with a great phrase to encapsulate an idea.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        The deed, not the creed. Exactamundo!

    • Sibs

      Ewwwww, Jess Cagle wrote that? Disappointing.

    • Miss Tia

      DAFUQ?!?!?!?!?!! not unlike a 12 step program?! um, you can leave them!!! those are FREE!!! should i walk over the AA world headquarters and get this jess cagle some 12 step program literature so they can educate themselves? well actually i’ll drive…it’s pretty cold out now…but it’s just like 5 blocks away on n. main street….

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Ah, great point–the 12 step program isn’t bankrupting anyone!

        • daisy

          Scientology –
          One step Give me all your money and you will no longer be able to afford your drug of choice.

    • Mymy88

      Ass Kisser Alert! Jess AND People Magazine.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Someone just posted this Dilsted article, I swear – but can’t find it. “Tom Cruise Is Going To Erase The Memory Of Leah Reminiโ€™s Existence From His Life.” Heavy snark and the comments are worth reading also.

    http://dlisted.com/2015/11/12/tom-cruise-is-going-to-erase-the-memory-of-leah-reminis-existence-from-his-life/

    • Kay

      Those comments are hilarious….

    • daisy

      I am sorry Bunker, I have been cheating on you at this other website.

      • Liberated

        I always felt you were a common tramp. Write up overts now.

        • daisy

          I feel very blest that I have no idea how to do that. Yes I am a tramp.

          • Liberated

            You are a kindred soul.

          • Juicer77

            You are a superlative tramp, a tramp among tramps!!!

  • Amy Forsythe

    Hey Davey, I got an idea….maybe Daddy can help….oh wait….never mind.

    • Liberated

      I think little Davey considers L Ron Daddy. Too bad he’s not around to help either.

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    Can you just imagine the actual “strategy meetings” (if they have them) in die Dwarfenfurher’s offices these days?

  • Sejanus

    $cientology. It is downright murder.

    • Edward Bell

      I hate hate hate the American legal system. It’s not about who’s right or wrong anymore but instead about how much it can be manipulated to get the outcome you are looking for irrespective of what’s right or wrong. People like David Miscavige take full advantage. The lawyers that represent organisations like Scientology have no remorse and no conscience. Humanity has been left at the door.

      Innocent people get screwed over and oppressed time and time again.

      Please please please lawyers of Scientology, if you have a conscience just listen to it.

      RIP Lisa McPherson

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I liked Rinder until he said” Lisa McPherson, didn’t belong in scientology”. As if she was too mentally unbalanced to be in the cult. I wonder who in the fuck DOES belong in $cientology? Sure worked for him until he ran in fear of his own life. Lots of Steaks and Scotch with that sociopath as they ran around and threatened people to change their official reports on her death. Such Bullshit!

    • Ella Raitch

      What was the context around that comment? Do you have a link?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        It was when they were doing the plug for they movie(sorry no link). Lisa was in for 18 years.

        • Ella Raitch

          I ask because I thought it was said along similar lines to what Tony said about Cathriona White – that if someone is depressed that the last thing they need is Scientology. I can’t imagine Mike – at least not in recent years – suggesting that Lisa suffered because she was somehow ‘not good enough’ for Scientology.

          It also helps to know when exes made these sorts of comment because after leaving the cult there is a period of adjustment and I am sure many exes regret statements as they were in the process of restoring their pre-cult identities.

          So you are saying this statement was made in connection to the promotion of Going Clear?

    • Mymy88

      Border Line… Think I’m going to lose my mind “Madonna”

    • Sarah James

      That hit me hard as well. I know Mike has helped a lot of people escape the Scientology trap, but I don’t for a miniute believe Lisa was at fault for her death. David Miscavige keept her from getting the help she needed inorder to live.

  • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

    Been busy all day with little time to visit the Bunker. So I’m sure this has been said already–and more eloquently–but it was after learning about Lisa’s death (around ’02. ’03) that I went from thinking this scientology stuff is just some harmless, self-help, find your inner guru thing, to realizing how dangerous and destructive it really is. Once your eyes are opened, you can never look back.

    I hadn’t spent much time with Lisa’s story in a while till I read Reitman’s account of it a few years ago in Inside Scientology. Maybe she provided details I hadn’t read before, maybe it was the way she strung those details together into a narrative about a real person I could relate to, but it did something to me. It moved me, it made me sad, it made me frightened, it made me angry…It made me want to do whatever I can in my small way to support efforts to keep this from happening again and again. I look forward to Tony’s stories and people’s recollections over the next few weeks. But it’s with much trepidation. This story takes me to low places. I hope Lisa’s life will continue to be celebrated and her death continue to reverberate.

    Alright, bring on the stories. I have enough wine now, I think I can take it.

  • Amy Forsythe

    Love this one. A column from “The Daily Campus” website titled…The Well Deserved Decline of Scientology. The hits just keep on comin’.

  • Sarah James

    Lisa McPherson’s death is murder. David Miscavige should be in prison.

    • Amy Forsythe

      Ya got my vote!

    • Liberated

      I’ve been sayin that since it happened.

    • Mockingbird

      One of hundreds.

      • Sarah James

        He has decided who counts and who does not. He thinks this will work forever – his time is running out. Too many know what he is all about.

        • Mockingbird

          I hope he gets to join Jared Fogle soon.

  • Cincinnati Ideal Org last Sunday. They can still find parking spots.

    • Rasha

      Do they pretend to have weekly “services” to appear churchlike? I heard they used to, and would dress up like Catholic priests, too, just for the religious image.

      • Of course. “Sunday Service” is part of the stats.

        • Rasha

          I would love to see a “service” (leaked vid, of course). I expect it’s just standard Ronspew, just to fill the criteria of “having a service to prove we’re religion-like”…

          But more than that, I want to see the back-tax bill when the tax-exempt status gets stripped…..

          • Well, I actually delivered it many times, as a scientology “minister”.

            The short version consists of reading scientology creed (a thing of beauty, PRwise)
            and a “sermon” (some universally good-feel article written by Hubbard).

            The longer version may include a group processing, wedding or funeral ceremony.
            All written by Hubbard.

            It’s done on Thursdays (because stats) and Sundays (because stats and PR).

            • Are_sics

              Is the hip hip hooraying standard every Sunday?

            • Hip hip hooraying is standard every day.

            • Are_sics

              *cringe*

            • Rasha

              Not to burden you with questions, but was it a post that one would be chosen for or assigned to, or could anyone of a certain level do it? I’m really fascinated by the ways that the organization transformed or created behaviors to adapt for survival needs.

            • Any auditor who also did the “Minister’s Course” is qualified.

            • 15 hour course, old school.

            • Or less.

            • Thursday, really?! I’m guessing after 2pm.

              “Please rise and open your hymn books to “Praise Hubbard, Our Stats Are In, And We Haven’t Been Assigned Conditions Yet”.

            • Before 2pm, not after. The rest is correct.

            • Before? While there’s still time left to call a few numbers and get someone to write a check?

            • Juicer77

              XD

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      That looks so much like Nashville. Even the crappy old, yellow van.

      • Hey. Nothing wrong with that van. Marc Headley’s stepdad TJ Hensley probably still drives it around, buying cigs and groceries.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          For himself or the Org?

  • 11 minutes ago from Leah..

  • Supper Powers

    For fellow slackers who missed it, Shelton has a new PSA up.

    http://mncriticalthinking.com/author/skepticalseeker/

  • Edward Bell

    I’ve noticed how every now and then a Scientologist posts pro Scientology comments on the Bunker discussion threads. (Maybe its just a bored Troll).

    Assuming it really is a Scientologist I have just a couple of thoughts

    1. Good to see they are reaching out to the real world. Even if they are posting negative comments. Hopefully some of it sinks in and gets them questioning themselves.

    2. It is quite well known I thought that many SP’s frequent this site (I’m not sure if Tony has been declared). Aren’t Scientologists meant to stay away from SP’s? Like when some Scientologists came and attended the Q & A after Going Clear was screened recently in Florida. They knew there were SP’s there. Aren’t they meant to avoid SP’s at all costs?

    • Those are usually bored trolls. The other guys are not obvious.

    • Supper Powers

      Didn’t you notice their Confront and Shatter tech?

    • Mockingbird

      OSA gets sent here as part of their duties. Tory Magoo has a list of targets they try for. They want to derail conversations. They used to always disrupt my Hubbard and Miscavige murderer threads and ones where I described how Hubbard controlled people at ESMB. It got to be a big pain.

      • Susan B.

        Do ya think Kaptun MuskCabbage trolls the Bunker? With him being such a control freak I would think he would want to read the hard breaking news and comments himself as opposed to a report by one of his spies.

        • Mockingbird

          He probably does by now. It has become such a thorn in his side it infuriates him. I remember an ex Sea Org member, possibly Marc Headley, used to say Miscavige wanted briefings on what is said about him online every morning.

          The Bunker has a special place as so many people converge here and Tony Ortega spreads this information far and wide. This site more than any other is a target for OSA.

  • The Dude
    • Rasha

      Link doesn’t work.

      Hi, Dude!!!!! Haven’t seen ya for a while, but then, I’ve been a bit sporadic. Heard you were globetrottin’.

      • The Dude

        I have been. As for the link, refresh and it should work.
        Brazil was fantastic.
        I don’t come around too much here now. I have been trying to curb some of my obsessions. $cio is on top of the list.

        • Rasha

          I’ve found that, despite the common thread, it’s really the people I come here for. Goodness knows I have very little to contribute, but I like the atmosphere and creative banter.

          Link works by the way, Thanks!

          Oh, Yay! Brazil! I’m totally jealous. ^_^

        • aquaclara

          Curbing is not good. ๐Ÿ™‚
          Come back often. We miss you.

        • I guess you won’t be joinig us next June in Cleaveland for HowdyCon then . . .

    • Supper Powers

      Wow! Great find.

    • beauty for ashes

      Dude! Tootally not scio related, but will make you laugh. The republican one is good too.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_yxGsWHx9o

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Dude! Welcome home!

    • Juicer77

      Nice to see you. Been busy since you got home, I guess. ๐Ÿ™‚ oops I see comment below about cutting back. Good for you.

  • Captain MustSavage

    And the pressure will just not let up on scientology. Hollywood Reporter article entitled “Hollywood’s Most Dangerous Documentarians on Death Threats, Scientology and “Staging Reality” — and yes, Alex Gibney is sitting right out in front.

    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/features/hollywoods-dangerous-documentarians-death-threats-838627

  • Rasha

    Okay, I confess. In all the hubub of today – the long drive, the really poor quality of the local fast food, the dodgy wifi at the hotel – I have only just NOW clicked the heart.

    – Don’t be a silly Rasha. Click the heart, like, as soon as you realize how awesome Tony’s efforts and skills are.

    The heart. Just click it.

    • Always Amazed

      Thanks,.. I forgot today.

    • aquaclara

      Three more, and we are at 200 hearts. <3

      • I’m in the future, and was 201. Hate to tell you this, but the cult is still here in the thirty-eight-minutes from your time future. I was hoping they’d be gone by now.

        • Juicer77

          Dagnabit!

    • beauty for ashes

      and eat your vegetables Rasha!

  • daytoncapri

    elle is back – she has responded to posts that are a few days old, and, in so doing, getting the last word.

    The freshest posts are absurdist back and forth name-calling. Kinda sad.

    http://www.people.com/article/leah-remini-says-she-still-does-not-know-shelly-miscavige-whereabouts

    • aquaclara

      It’s very sad. While I am not sure it’s one person using this name for all the blowback, I do hope they decide to read on, and walk.

      • daytoncapri

        It seems counter intuitive that they would indeed read on, given their attack-dog roles. I believe you are right to have that hope, as do I.

      • Glen

        Elle’s attitude seems pretty consistent without any hint of openness. Seems very hardcore, I can’t imagine she is harboring any doubts. I would hope to be wrong.

      • Susan B.

        If elle is in the cult then what is she doing reading anti-$cion posts and articles about Leah’s book? makes sense to me that “she” could be more than one person that’s in the cult. the posts are rather creepy. and who is this Tom Reynolds character?

    • Ella Raitch

      I probably shouldn’t say this, but what impact od they think crazy comments upvoted by one or two socks is going to have in a comment stream where people set the comment feed to view by ‘best’.

      It would be more effective to make one intelligent sounding, ‘wedge’ remark and using lots of accounts to upvote it.

      I suppose that’s not what the dreck says.

      • daytoncapri

        Well, she could hone her technique, I guess. I don’t think it would make much of a difference.

        She did an extended two-way conversation (maybe with a sock) on the derail topic of Global Warming some weeks back. But, really, what did she achieve with that?

        She knows that I disagree with her choice for Scientology, but I don’t think of elle as an adversary. Not really. She has given me reason to like her independently of her organization (I won’t call it a religion). As for her organization, I made that same choice myself, and have since moved on to a freer, happier and more fulfilling life.

        • Ella Raitch

          I started with a reasonable relationship but ‘she’ made a terrible statement about Karen DeLaC having ‘no rights’ over her son’s body. Something about it was so heartless and, well, you guessed it, sociopathic; it sent chills down my spine.

          • daytoncapri

            There is no justification for that thinking. It is appropriate for it to be exposed for all to see.

      • daisy

        It may not do anything, but it sure helps me to up and down vote. I am delusional that way. I hate them so much.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      What’s sad is that people like Elle are among the few still ins who at least know on a cursory level what is happening with the cherch and STILL she refuses to really look and save herself and get out.

      • What she doesn’t get is that on her side is lying, conditional approval and harshness. They sign their communiques with ML? They wouldn’t know love if it bit them in the ass. They won’t look outside the bubble at the Headley’s and their warm family, or at Jenna Hill and her gorgeous brood. They won’t know Kendra Wiseman’s freedom, exploring China the rest of the world with her husband. They are taught that we hate them. Most of us are them. I cherish my friendships with exes, most of whom are nothing less than heroes to me. She makes me mental in the comments, but Elle could be the next Tory. Just sayin’ . . .

        • PerpetualOutflow

          That’s the thing though…why DOESN’T she know that “on her side is lying, conditional approval and harshness”? You don’t have to be in very long at all to see those things emerge.

          • Because the water was lovely when she jumped in the pot. Now it’s boiling and she can’t figure out why she’s so hot.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              It’s just so sad and perplexing. I think about the SO still ins I know…they are getting old now and are still working ridiculous hours under tremendous stress with almost no time off and no opportunity to enjoy friends and family. They could still enjoy some great years of their lives if they would only wake up and have the courage to walk out the door.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Sadly, I hav a family member just like that but who worships the ground DM walks on. It is a long road out for someone who has been in for decades.

            • Juicer77

              Worships him from afar? Or has had contact with him directly for any length of time? If you don’t mind sharing, what is the admiration based on?

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              Has known him since he was 16, thinks he is brilliant, fixing the tech really needed to be done. I don’t think he is in direct contact right now but I am not sure.

      • daytoncapri

        This is the world that she understands. Her prison of belief. Sadly, I don’t think she is refusing to look so much as she lacks the capability to see. But that is not all, she may be shackled by her fears: loss of her eternity, disconnection, fair gaming and loss of her own self-identity. The Good News, which she cannot grasp yet, is that on the outside of Scientology, life is good.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Very eloquently put. The disconnection and fair gaming fears I definitely understand. But to be honest, if you had told me I would lose my eternity if I left, I would have died laughing at the hilarity of that ridiculous notion. And lose my self-identity if I left? It was always pretty obvious to me they wanted me to surrender my self-identity if I stayed.

          • daytoncapri

            She may have been raised in it, which could make it especially tough for her. Part of my admiration for Leah is that she is bravely reconstructing her thinking from childhood..

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Yes, that would make a huge difference.

          • Juicer77

            So you never bought the eternity part? Honest question. Relates to Aaron Smith-Levin’s comments in the Surviving Scientology podcast.

            • PerpetualOutflow

              Honestly, no. The idea that some science fiction writer in the 1950s came up with something that could affect my eternity just wasn’t plausible to me. That he might have come up with some useful self-help type material, maybe.

    • If it’s the same elle (between reboots), she was back over a month later in Casey Kasem articles.

    • OceanMomma

      I looked back at some of elle’s posts. I couldn’t read many too much of the same B.S. over and over. Takes the NEVER answer a question order to heart. I did notice that in some of them she (for arguments sake) refers to herself as “us” and “we”. Did someone slip? Did she unintentionally confirm more than one person writes on that account? I notice that some posts seem much more articulate than others. Perhaps or she could be like me, typing on a tablet is much harder than on a keyboard so I write differently accordingly. Either way this person needs some serious help.

    • StudentOfLife

      I just asked Elle (over there) some respectful questions all relating to the petulant peabrained pompous pompadoured perjuring persistently pontificating perverseness peabrained psychopath otherwise known as COB: Chairman of the Baneful. if nothing else, a lot of new people are going to be alerted the death of Lisa McPherson. i know no one will see this post because it’s about 1am EST but I thought you might appreciate it.

      • Juicer77

        Saw and appreciated ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Juicer77

      Couldn’t resist. Just had to go over there and poke the bear!

  • One of my friends, who I was on staff with, asked me a few hours ago for a copy of Blown for Good. I gave her the unsigned copy.

    • Supper Powers

      Good news!

    • aquaclara

      Oh, you are so nice! I have the “e” copy, and the book copy. You got yours signed?! Am so impressed!

      • I got it from Headley’s last Christmas. Paid for one, but they send me two. Wish they signed both. Lol

      • I have the kindle copy too. Shared it with another former staff member almost two years ago.

    • Ella Raitch

      Marvellous – this is what we like to hear.

    • Liberated

      That was beautiful.

    • salin

      Good sign for your friend. Part of the healing – willing to read what throws previous beliefs into further question.

      • Yes. She is way past official scientology, even though she was trained at Flag and met Miscavige briefly. I am working on helping her to get out of the whole woo woo entirely. It’s a gradual process to get in and to get out.

        • Ella Raitch

          You’re a good friend Dodo

          • I try. Thank you.

          • daisy

            Best ex ever.

            • Everytime I try to do something noble, one of my exes shows up and makes a snarky remark. Jk.

        • salin

          You are heroic in your efforts, Dodo. <3

          • Thanks for the love. I don’t think I am heroic, just fair.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thank you for what you’re doing. It’s no small task. If you need help with anything, just holler.

    • Juicer77

      Good for you. If you need more books please let us know. I will gladly send some to you for yourself or to share with others. ETA I really wish I had more time to talk to you in NYC. You’re a keeper ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Sibs

    Just had another $cientology debate with my boyfriend. I was telling him about the Lisa McPherson series starting on the Bunker today and the story behind what happened to her. He says he wants to look into the cult, but he wants to do his own research and not be influenced by anything, so he wouldn’t accept any of my suggestions for resources.

    Oh well. That’s one of the things I like about him, that he thinks freely and questions everything. Hoping this weekend sometime he finds his way here and sees this comment. <3

    • daytoncapri

      Then tell him to NOT look up Lisa McPherson. Insist on it, and say you will be very disappointed if he does (wink) ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Jimmy3

      I would sec check this guy immediately. Get him on the cans.

      • Jimmy3

        That sounds dirtier than I meant. Clean it up.

        • Sibs

          Nevar!

        • Ella Raitch

          He goes on the cans or it’s hands off hers…something like that?

      • Sibs

        Well then! xD

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Well he can go into Google and figure out a lot! There is so much out there in terms of stories of ex’s, blogs, etc. More power to him.

    • Liberated

      He needs an intervention with ” Bunkerites” . We’ll scare him straight.

      • Sibs

        Noooooo no no no, he needs to find the truth on his own. He’ll get there.

        • Juicer77

          I agree. It will be interesting to compare notes and sources later. Good for him!

    • Nat-leficent

      Hmm. Ignoring expert guidance on an interesting topic. He must be cute in order to get away with being so contrary XD

    • Susan black

      Don’t worry, sibs, his research will soon point him this way. He just wants to find it on his own.;)

  • Thursday is no more. Lost and Found.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QxfJfZTEj_g

  • Nat-leficent
  • anoni81b4u

    I thought this was funny …
    I stole it from another MB

    • HTC

      Is that a flying penis?

      • anoni81b4u

        I was thinking LRH was reincarnated.

  • Ella Raitch

    Low-point of my summer….having to wait an extra hour for my daily bunker update ๐Ÿ™

    But I do like Mike’s new posting cycle…

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/hurricane-leah/
    Hurricane Leah is blowing Miscavigeโ€™s house down.

    • Juicer77

      There, there, she said consolingly. There, there. ๐Ÿ˜‰ Hey I have a couple of fun dates for tea today! More later ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Ella Raitch

        Who can it be now?

        • Juicer77

          Graham and another friend. It was lovely!

  • OOkpik
  • Tory Christman

    222 have clicked the heart. 1184 have commented. ahhhh what’s wrong w/ this picture:? LOL Perhaps peeps still don’t know why, or you don’t care. Does it matter? Please let me know as I thought it did. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • daisy

      Some of us comment more than once.( I am very talkative ) but can only click the heart once. That often account for the disparage in hearts and comments. Some of us who are more forgetful are usually reminded 3 or 4 times, by you and others. We are very grateful for those reminders. You are my personal hero Tory, thank you for all you do. The humanity drips off you.

    • Chee Chalker

      People like me forget! Thanks for the reminder!