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Under oath, Narconon official lets slip that drug rehab organized just like Scientology

Jonathan_LittleIn August, we told you about Jonathan Little (pictured), an Indiana attorney who is handling several lawsuits against Scientology’s drug rehab network, Narconon.

He turned heads with his outspokenness. Referring to Scientology’s delaying legal strategy, he said, “If Narconon and Scientology want to have a decade-long war, I have nothing else to do and I’m not going away.”

We called him yesterday to get his thoughts on our story about how David Miscavige is making major changes to the Narconon system. He told us he thought our story was “spot-on,” and he updated us on his own lawsuits against Narconon centers.

Little is handling the case of Candice Tyler, who is suing Narconon Freedom Center in Albion, Michigan. “She got sick during the Narconon sauna and niacin treatment and went to a hospital. They found that she was allergic to niacin and told her not to take any more of it. But when she was taken back to Narconon, they gave it to her anyway,” he told us for a previous story on the lawsuit.

Now, we have something interesting for those of you watching Narconon closely: Three depositions from the Candice Tyler lawsuit, including a very interesting one from Valerie Kealoha, who described herself as the facility’s Finance Director, as well as the person who handles “external legal affairs.” We found a couple of exchanges in her testimony particularly interesting. There was this, for example…

Q: Now, what is the refund policy at Narconon Freedom Center?
A: There is no refund.
Q: Under any circumstances?
A: Under any circumstances.

Q: Has it always been Narconon Freedom Center’s policy to not give refunds under any circumstances as long as you’ve been there?
A: No, it hasn’t always been.
Q: When did that change?
A: Recently.
Q: OK. So currently you do give refunds?
A: No, currently we do not.
Q: OK. In 2013, did you give refunds?
A: Yes, we did.

Well, that’s good to know. But an even more intriguing exchange occurred a little later…

 
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Yes, in other words, Narconon — a drug rehab — is organized the same way the Church of Scientology itself is. As Scientology’s own website explains quite clearly, Department 20 of Division 7 in the church’s elaborate hierarchy is, indeed, the Office of Special Affairs, Scientology’s spy wing, and the group that handles external “legal affairs.”

 
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And we’ve seen in the past that Narconon officials will report directly to OSA whenever legal or other dicey matters come up. It was documented in the 2008 death of patient Patrick Desmond, for example, that the Atlanta Narconon’s executive director, Mary Rieser, was immediately reporting that incident to Scientology’s OSA.

We also have two other depositions: Beth Scott, NFC’s Director of Income, and Todd Meszaros, an NFC intake specialist. Sift through them and let us know in the commments section if you find any other nuggets.

Little tells us that although Narconon is changing, there are still many people calling him, hoping that someone will represent them in lawsuits against the rehab facilities.

“I’m getting 50 inquiries every month to our website,” Little says, referring to the slick site narcononlawsuits.com, which he hosts. Little says he just doesn’t have the resources to look into every inquiry, and he knows that there are many more potential lawsuits than he can handle.

He suggested that attorneys around the country who might want to help victims of Narconon find justice should contact him, and he can send potential clients their way.

DOCUMENTS

Deposition of Valerie Kealoha
Deposition of Beth Scott
Deposition of Todd Meszaros

 
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Mike Rinder interviews Aaron Smith-Levin, part two

Two former Scientologists who grew up in the church continue their conversation about what it was like to be a child under the sway of L. Ron Hubbard…

 

 
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Is Hurricane Leah flooding the church itself?

We wanted to know how Church of Scientology members might be reacting to the incredible tidal wave of media following Leah Remini’s 20/20 interview and the publication of her book, Troublemaker. We turned to one of our inside sources to ask how things looked among rank and file Scientologists. Here’s what we were told…

There’s no discussion from the people I know who are OT 7s and 8s. The focus for all the members who are fully drinking the Kool-aid is getting through the SRD or whatever step they are on. Most Scientologists do not watch or read the news. It’s entheta.

Members are bombarded with calls, texts, and emails from the church. I get calls and emails every day regarding the next event — New Year’s Eve — and the latest Freewinds seminars or conventions. All the amazing developments do not seem to get through to members, especially the OT 8s.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Yet another shot of Tom Cruise at the IAS Patrons Ball in England on October 24. This is getting too easy, even for Star magazine.

 
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This happy fellow was handing out copies of The Way to Happiness in South Africa. But even more interesting, get a load of who commented on David Lurie’s caption…

 
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BOOK NOTES
3D-Unbreakable

We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Our book tour is concluded for now. (But you can re-experience it through this nifty interactive map!) We’ll let you know about future appearances. Previous events: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24), Phoenix (9/15), Cleveland (9/23), Minneapolis (9/24), Portland (9/27), Seattle (9/28), Vancouver BC (9/29), Sydney (10/23), Melbourne (10/25), Adelaide (10/28), Perth (10/30)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 11, 2015 at 07:00

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  • MostEthicalPimp

    If you didn’t have time to watch the whole interview I think this a very important 5 minutes:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-KJkhm4CAwg&feature=youtu.be&t=58m24s

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thanks – cracked me up. It’s so important to sit down with someone who’s been there and laugh at yourselves as you go over all those detailed memories – saying it aloud and realizing how it sounds as a reflection against normal society. I just love seeing the older, wiser Rinder rolling his eyes whether physically or mentally – I was rolling them at the very same points, which made me laugh even harder.

      So funny and so true. the more you’re isolated, as in the SO, the deeper the propaganda gets embedded. Those who wake up from the Sea Org mindset do so for their own different, personal reasons. It’s usually not what you’d think would be the reason.The will to keep on living another day is a good one, or noticing the number of meat bodies missing is piling up and wondering if something’s up.

      Sigh – what we thought was esprit de corps that we were all so proud of turned out to be such a pile of manipulative horse pucky. Spit de corpse is more like it. Quite a humbling experience this recovery thing. Laughter is healing though and you are a riot, Aaron, and engaging speaker. You and Mike are a tasty pairing. Thanks for making these videos because they are sure to resonate with others stumbling down this road you have traveled. Rock it.

  • scottmercer

    There you go with the last item Tony has. This is how the CoS will muddle through for a while: attempting to find more Kool-Aid drinkers in the less developed nations. Makes me sick.

  • nottrue

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you. And all who supported them then, and now.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Both my Dad and stepdad have passed, but both were proud veterans. Every year we lose more of the WWII vets.

      And I am so grieved that we lose so many of our current vets to suicide. These men and women have given the all for their country. We need to support them in real ways when they get back – with medical care, mental health care, job training, and whatever else they need to reintegrate.

    • Bernie

      My uncle Bernard, my namesake (my dad and all the other uncles survived):

      First Special Service Force
      S. Sgt. Bernard MacDonald
      Killed in Action
      February 16, 1944

  • Evey Hammond
    • daisy

      Good degrading Tom comments below and support for Leah.

    • aegerprimo

      Will Tom speak out? I think not.

    • pluvo

      Few
      days ago the Tom Cruise movie “Knight and Day” with Cameron Diaz was shown in TV. I forced myself to watch it and to concentrate
      on TC’s acting not that he is a Scio. It was painful to watch. Besides that the
      movie is lame, Tom Cruise was acting being (the great) Tom Cruise, his self-complacency
      shining through.

      • Chee Chalker

        That movie sucked…..I give Cameron props for avoiding the cult. (At least) two movies together and no dissemination. C’mon TC, what are you waiting for……..though I am sure Cameron was told all about the great Fish Lips.

  • Kim O’Brien

    Because ….Denver …LOL . This is what i woke up to…all melted now .

    • Hamtaro

      Your house is like a miniature version of The Shining! 🙂

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Leah is indeed on a roll!

    • scottmercer

      92% Five star reviews, 5% four star reviews. Wow.

  • nottrue

    Hope some SP’s show up…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Never heard of him. There are more and more unknown names or no names for these front groups. Good sign of high turnover and things heating up and slammin’.

      Sebastian Egloff listed as new recruit, at least at Flag, family at the time listed in Clearwater, FL, in 2002. Only find TR’s and Objectives as courses or auditing for him, and that was in 2002 also.

      It would be interesting to see a list from 2015 for Flag new recruits. Bulk may be more from Russia today. Those listed coming from Florida and California could be staff or SO from other orgs.

      2002 new recruits at Flag = 73 total [Flag Land Base Newsletter Issue 3 – circa Nov 2002]

      Germany 6
      Taiwan 3
      New Zealand 2
      Argentina 1
      Italy 6
      Canada 5
      South Africa 6
      United Kingdom 2
      Australia 2
      Zimbabwe 1
      Hungary 1
      France 1
      Mexico 2
      USA 28 (mostly Fl an CA)
      Czechoslovakia 1
      Venezuela 1
      Netherlands 2
      Denmark 1
      Switzerland 1
      Sweden 1

      https://groups.google.com/forum/#!topic/alt.religion.scientology/OYOXZGazvNA

    • Captain MustSavage

      so, is anyone going to email sebastian a copy of the narconon drug deaths?

  • flyonthewall

    New protest video by Grep and co. featuring Tory

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lp67gVi3r9c

  • flyonthewall

    Is it a protest or a rave? Neither, it’s a ravtest! Hamburg Anons keeping it spicy. Just uploaded 5Nov

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0v2qH2KoLA

    • Kim O’Brien

      Germans should never be allowed to rave . Emotional constipation and lack of rhythm … does not go well with Molly and strobe lights .

      • what’sup

        That’s dub step Kim….Rhythm is the least of concerns.

      • flyonthewall

        but their dancing is so efficient!

        • Miss Tia
        • Miss Tia

          there’s even ballet to rammstein! wow, i’ve found a rabbit hole here…
          https://youtu.be/McGZJHGV2A4

          • Frodis73

            Ok, now this is cool.

            • flyonthewall

              It is cool but the Bavarian dancing is better IMO, their dancing is more in time w/the music.

            • Frodis73

              Just that one. I liked that one too, I just have a soft spot for ballet, big time.

            • flyonthewall

              big fan of the movie Black Swan?

            • Frodis73

              I have not seen it yet. 🙁 I love all his other movies and have been dying to see it. Hoping it shows up on Netflix one of these damn days.

            • flyonthewall

              Bummer, it is really really good. You even liked Noah? That’s the only one of his I couldn’t stand. I got what he was going for but it just didn’t work for me.

            • Frodis73

              Ok, I lied. I have not seen that one yet either. In fact I forgot about it til you just mentioned it. I have heard others say the same thing about it though. Did you like Pi? Requiem for a Dream is amazing (tho disturbing) too.

            • flyonthewall

              umm, tsk tsk tsk. 🙂 I loved Pi and Requiem, saw them both at the theater. We saw Requiem so many times at the movies that the tkt guy told us we didn’t have to pay anymore. I liked how there were cameos in Requiem from a lot of the people in Pi.

              What did you think about The Wrestler w/Mickey Rourke?

          • Hell yeah.

      • Supper Powers

        Emotional constipation….

        • daisy

          Another phrase I will steal not knowing what it means. I really like it.

      • MM

        Well I guess that would depend on how you define ‘rave’ 😀

        (F5 for 1.2 MILLION people at the Love Parade 2000 in Berlin)

  • nottrue
    • pixie dust

      And so it begins. Yay!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      3 Noms, including Audience Choice. I like that choice!

      • Ella Raitch

        If the academy doesn’tat least nominate GC for Oscars,there will be a perception that they are kowtowing to Scientology pressure (Dave has made certain of that with his bullying).

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Seems like Hollywood is no longer saluting his dog. Can’t wait to see!

    • For those who never heard of Cinema Eye Honors (myself included):

      “The “Cinema Eye Honors” are awards recognizing excellence in nonfiction
      or documentary filmmaking and includes awards for the disciplines of
      directing, producing, cinematography and editing.” More after the link.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cinema_Eye_Honors

      • pixie dust

        They claim the Oscar winner came from their list except for one year. Exciting.

  • Acherontia

    Maybe this is old news, but I was just buying a drink and saw TWO magazines with scientology/TC/LR stuff splashed across the covers. People and InTouch. I flipped through the InTouch one- mentions of cookie dough, ever present Sea Org staff, and chipped mugs. Nora Crest and her blog were in there too 🙂

    • A bird in the chimney

      I was flipping through last-last week’s People–my zombie subscription, because I never asked for it and it just won’t die–and in the “star tracks” brief feature section, they mentioned Kelly Preston celebrated her 53rd birthday at the Rainbow Room in NYC. I was very surprised she’d pick a secular venue they probably had to pay for themselves. 😛

      I have last week’s People with Leah on the cover to read, too. If anyone should want it (for posterity, they didn’t get a chance to buy it, whatever), let me know. I’m happy to send it!

  • KingofSweden

    OT: Comedy Central is screening the classic “Trapped in the Closet” episode of South Park tonight (at 8pm CST) as part of its lead-in for a new episode (at 9m CST). This show helped seed the current wave of critical reporting about Co$, and now everyone else has arrived at the party… hooray!!

    • pixie dust

      Isn’t this the first time since it aired originally?

      • Miss Tia

        they’ve showed it a lot i believe….the only episodes not shown are super best friends; #200 and #201….200 has tom cruise packing fudge….but all 3 of those have mohammad…..

        • pixie dust

          Good. I tried to see it again on their site and it was unavailable.
          I still remember the first time. My sister and I died!

          • Miss Tia

            those 3 aren’t on their site either… they’re all here….i know this site works for those outside the usa too, as i’ve posted it before 🙂 http://putlocker.is/watch-south-park-tvshow-online-free-putlocker.html

            this is where i watch the latest SP episodes–such as tomorrow…..just finished all of the IT Crowd on this site too! 🙂

            • pixie dust

              Thanks, Tia.

            • KingofSweden

              LOVE The IT Crowd!!!

            • Miss Tia

              yeah i just finished all the episodes, i really liked it!!

    • jazzlover

      Just checked — it’s on at 9 here in NY. Thanks for the head’s up. Must see TV indeed!

    • Nice find. How timely.

    • ze moo

      Thank you your Majesty, I have told several friends about that episode and everyone should see it. It is such a good education in the ways of $cientology.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just once when one of these media interviewers hear Travolta, or Cruise or any of the other sci personalities say “Well, I haven’t read That book, don’t read Those kinds of things” “I don’t watch Those types of films”, I wish they would ask them “What books Do you read and what documentaries DO you watch?”

    Isn’t it about time to ask the obvious after years of their parroting the same old “I don’t watch, I don’t read Those kind” to ask them what they Do read and watch? That would be revealing, if they were honest.

    • Observer

      “Have you watched the Rathbun documentary from Squirrel Busters Productions?”

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        They should Totally ask that!

    • Captain MustSavage

      When they use the “I don’t watch / see / experience any of that” deflection, I’d like interviewers to follow up with “If, as you say, that you personally haven’t watched / seen / experienced that, are you saying that’s proof that this never happens or are you saying that it might, but you just don’t care if it does?”

    • scottmercer

      “All of ’em, Katie.”

  • anoni81b4u

    Scientology is having problems… with podiums !!!!!

    • anoni81b4u

      damn typo … 🙂

  • I bought a magazine in the checkout line because it was such a beautiful thing.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      It’s gorgeous!

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      Frame it.

    • ze moo

      People claims a readership of 46.6 million. That is so close to 47 that I should use that magic number.

      • I’m in. Hope I run into Lil Davey. I’m gonna yell “Hey, great People magazine cover, huh?”

  • custard ganet

    Whos the “David Lurie” guy in the Facebook post?

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Hey, back off Stephen! We count on our Big Pharma checks. LOL

    https://twitter.com/StephenKing/status/663768619692724224

    • SuppressedPerson

      I stopped reading “Undre the Dome” because every third word was a reference to a product!

      I get they make money from this sort of product placement, but when it becomes so unavoidable. You can’t make it through a page without King’s “cultural color” or whatever bs he’s calling it– it simply becomes out of control.

      He’s a hypocrite.

      • Miss Tia

        never read the dome….i’m looking forward to book 3 in the mercedes murder trilogy……

    • jazzlover

      Don’tcha just love all those pharmaceutical commercials? It’s like 10 seconds about the product, then 50 seconds of disclaimers. LOL. Somebody at the FDA needs a serious readjustment 🙂

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Mr. Hole and I now listen to them intently – as a comedy series. “Some side effects may be noticed, like all your limbs falling off, death, blood leaking out of every orifice, lack of enthusiasm for polka dancing, the plague, nightly dreams of Charlie Manson, excruciating pain in every single cell of your body everywhere but only when you breathe … ”

        We howl!

        • jazzlover

          That’s funny! I’m a type 1 diabetic, and I love it on the various insulin commercials when they list “low blood sugar” as a side effect of insulin usage. D’oh 🙂

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Right! If you listen to them, they are hilarious, even though they are spouting some lines out of Steven King, or like you said, something so obvious, the best ones being when the voice is Disneyesque happy happy happy. And, as you said, a few second of product, then a full minute of deathly side effects.

            • jazzlover

              The bar for acceptable’s getting lower and lower. I really think our leaders see us as a bunch of robotic nitwits.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              agree – except I think they’re looking at their reflection mirror. I am now officially in major Derail. But agreed.

          • pat k

            My dad was in the original univ of toronto/chgo study to discover insulin& im type 2- always something new but truly improving products for us.

            • jazzlover

              Where’s the cure, eh? 🙂 For me the biggest improvement in control came with the introduction of fast-acting insulin.

            • pat k

              Imagine no insulin & no meter to show your levels. Food is our friend.

            • jazzlover

              What I was getting at is that ever since I was diagnosed (in 1972, mind you), and at EVERY 5 year interval since, I have been told that a cure was 5 years away. I am thankful, of course, for all the developments over the years. But, a cure would have made them totally unnecessary and rendered meaningless. Also, please try to remember, that in this day and age of over-emphasis on type 2 diabetes and its causes and consequences, sufferers of type 1 have been minimized and pushed off to the side simply because we only make up 5% of the diabetic population. Very strange considering that type 1 is an autoimmune disease, while type 2 is not.

            • pat k

              Promises by researchers should not be made. My dad was born in 1912. Parents were uneducated and had swamies praying over him when his symptoms surfaced. They fortunately lived near university of chicago and he was put in the first insulin trials. The old geezer lived to 68 and ate & drank like he did have a cure. I have always been considered borderline and having children started me on my own journey. Another crappy club we did not sign up to join.

            • jazzlover

              Agreed, by the medical community is foinking this up beyond repair by unnecessarily scaring parents and children alike regarding the imagined type 2 epidemic. In worst case scenarios, those children who are prone to eating disorders are at risk in such an environment.

            • daisy

              Amazing history in your family.

        • daisy

          You should see a skit on SNL for a pill that makes women have only 1 period a year. Then they list the most hilarious side effects of this pill. Amy and Tina at their best. It is the funniest thing I have ever seen on that show. That’s how funny.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I must find this now – will search tomorrow. Love Amy and Tina.

            • daisy

              I would find a link but SNL doesn’t show up in Canada in the interweb.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              tks, will check it out. Okay, now I want to see SNL do another skit:

              Side Effects of taking the Scientology pill.

            • jazzlover

              Lorne Michaels is notoriously protective about letting SNL stuff stick on youtube. I still wish I could find that Tim Kazurinsky skit form the 80s (Eddie Murphy years) about STDs. It was hilarious.

            • scottmercer

              LeSueur Peas?

            • Douglas D. Douglas
          • Douglas D. Douglas
        • pat k

          My young adult children consider them audio memes! Then they ask me if I’m on it!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          When Mrs. D and I are listening to these, we add the words “…or death” to each one. Then one of them actually included that one in the actual disclaimer!

    • I am glad he is concerned about social issues. I also would like to know the story behind him endorsing Hubbard’s novel “Fear”.

      • Miss Tia

        huh, i wonder why he endorsed that….that’s intriguing…..

        • May be he just liked the novell and didn’t know what Hubbard was up to. Nevertheless, I wonder what Stephen thinks about it these days.

          • Frodis73

            Yes, from what I remember he just said he enjoyed the story and as far as I know didnt say much about LRH himself. Considering his thoughts on organized religion in general though, I would love to hear what he has to say about cos…it will not be anything good im sure as long as he knows more than its just like any other religion.

  • SuppressedPerson

    OT
    Kelly Clarkson recently endorsed Going Clear, and another celeb w well over 1/4 million followers has tweeted about GC as well!

    https://twitter.com/askjillian/status/664298881060966400

    So much for using celebs to shill FOR the cult. Many are speaking out against it. All part of Hurricane Leah as well as Hurricane Gibney/Wright and ongoing headwinds from Ortega.

    • jazzlover

      This is promising news. Let’s hope there’s more and that they all stick to their guns.

    • ze moo

      Using clebs to shill for clampire has always been a double edged sword. When previous clebs left, the kept their mouths shut in fear of the wrath of Lroon. That fear has gone away. Yeah for the internet.

      • SuppressedPerson

        That’s for sure. Even the ones who speak for them don’t help. Who would confuse Kirstie for being on her way to godhood? Or when Laura prepon does her scion-speak, who thinks she’s anything but nutty? Travolta looks like an escapee from Madame Toussau’s (spelling?), and is confirmed as gay, trolling the gym. Danny masterson comes off as a complete a-hole. And our Tom tried to shame Brook Shields, and sounds like a raving lunatic on that Scientology video.

        So. So much for even the celebs on “their side”.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Lol – just heard local news talking about “Hurricane Kate”. Appropro because … no one expecting a hurricane in Nov – not hitting anything tho. No one was expecting Kate either. I was thinking, next … Hurricane Leah? Close. Just then he said a disturbance might be next one – “Hurricane Larry”. Close enough for me!

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Jillian Barberie has had Tony on her KABC radio show a number of times, actually.

    • Ninara Poll

      I think Hurricane Leah was supposed to be on Dr. Oz either today or tomorrow… anyone know? That should cover the former Oprah-watching segment of the television market.

      • SuppressedPerson

        Yes, she was. I posted a link to the vid, but you can find it on YouTube.
        She was great!

        Even Dr Oz was great!

  • ze moo

    No matter what anyone says, Hurricane Leah is having an effect on the clam membership. They can’t walk through a supermarket checkout and not notice all the stories. Only those with deep screws holding on the blinders can ignore it. Those that work at clam companies will face additional problems, but what if the boss starts to slip away? Loyal Mustravage minions will be forced to sabotage the company and when they do, they’ll lose their jobs.

    How many sec checks are going to come from this? This is the opportunity for each failing mOrg needs to get some pay to the local staff and to meet their quota to send uplines. That such tactics are what drove Leah Remini away doesn’t matter. All that matters is 2pm Thursday.

    More clams will go under the radar and stop paying for ‘services’. More will just use caller id to dodge mOrg phone calls. And then they’ll get those letters that say ‘stop ignoring our phone calls’. ‘Service’ income is going to take a hit. The clampire will be forced to support the dying mOrgs, can’t have the few loyal minions noticing that even the Sea bOrg that are running the place are on food stamps and still look like they were just rescued from Auschwitz.

    The Sea bOrg and going to be beat farther into submission. That can’t end well either.

    Leah Remini is indeed a hurricane, one that may be a category higher than the Debbie Cook email. The clampires only response will be to keep the membership {clambership?, clambed? } noses so ground to the Lroon grindstone that no other thoughts can get through. And anyone who has to work in the real world is going to have to endure the break room gossip about ‘Going Clear’ and ‘Troublemaker’.

    Leah swings a huge paper cut. I wouldn’t want to meet her in a dark ally while she is still armed with her KRs.

    • jazzlover

      She is just……inspirational. If more people stood up for themselves, the world would be a better place.

    • flyonthewall

      Maybe before Hurricane Leah hit, Miscavige put the word out to everyone to stock up on groceries for the next 2 months so they don’t have to go to the store and see the tabloids? Just like they do for natural disasters?

      It could happen

      • ze moo

        Outside of the threat of sec checks, what else can Miscavage do?

  • flyonthewall

    Ok, is fair gaming celebs unique to Miscavige? I never heard of William Burroughs being slimed and fair gamed when he quit noisily and even publicly challenged Hubbard. Hubbard responded to him via public letter and he never attacked him, publicly anyway, that I know of. Hubbard’s letter is full of shit but he is actually pretty gracious to Burroughs. Here’s a link to it.

    Were other celebs who left the cult attacked by Hubbard or Sci while Hubbard was around?

    https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2015/09/08/l-ron-hubbards-reply-to-william-burroughs-burroughs-versus-hubbard-pt-2-of-2/

    • Tony Ortega

      Were there any other celebrities who left and then publicly criticized Scientology besides Burroughs, Beghe, Haggis, and Remini? (One small joke on Seinfeld doesn’t count.)

      • flyonthewall

        That’s not my question. My question is, did celebs who left noisily while Hubbard was around get the same treatment that Miscavige has dished out to celebs who left noisily?

        All the people you mention, Beghe, Haggis, Remini, all left during the Miscavige era. Are there celebs from the Hubbard era who left noisily and got fair gamed?

      • flyonthewall

        Ooohhh, so you’re saying that there haven’t been others that left noisily. Gotchya

        • Tony Ortega

          Others have left, but quietly.

          • flyonthewall

            That’s interesting. If I wonder if the cult handled them better back in the old days? Listening to Jason’s story, the cult had a chance to let them part ways amicably but fudged it all up. If you look at all the celebs who left noisily there is actually a common theme of them being handled poorly and their upsets growing and growing until it reaches critical mass. I bet that’s the why of celebs during Miscavige’s time vs Hubbard’s time re leaving noisily – poor handling.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Chuck Norris, for one.

      • ze moo

        Famously, A E Van Vogt was ‘turned in’ to the FBI in a 1955 letter Lron sent.

        “In 1952 and A.E. van Vogt, a writer from Canada naturalised in the US and
        living in Los Angeles and a heavy foe of Dianetics and Scientology for
        years although pretending to be involved with it and an associate of Gene
        Benton, Sara Hollister and others of stated Communistic leanings,….”

        http://www.xenu.net/archive/FBI/fbi-130.html

        • Tony Ortega

          Van Vogt didn’t like Scientology, but he remained a Dianeticist the rest of his life.

          • ze moo

            I always found that dichotomy puzzling.

            • Tony Ortega

              He liked the idea of auditing to lessen the impact of past traumas, but he knew “past lives” were complete bullshit. So he stuck with Dianetics and broke from Hubbard and Scientology.

            • Narapoid

              The abreaction therapy that many veterans after WWII could have used and ultimately helped “D:MSMH” make the best seller list likely drew him. Putting into the past terrible experiences from modern combat is logical.

              Do not discount something that Van Vogt surely saw and Hubbard found helpful and nakedly worked to take credit for: the catharsis of “Blowing Charge”. That is:placing a bad experience in the time that it happened that is not the “now” or “present time”. It is easy to write or say, but the experience can be transformative.

              A Canadian Mennonite, who’d a thunk it… he is so worthy of study but look….Squirrel!

            • Eivol Ekdal
        • flyonthewall

          oh yeah, good call

      • sizzle8

        Back in 1980 the jazz guitarist Gabor Szabo sued Scientology.

      • Zeruel (Sebastian)

        Does Nazanin Bonadi and her rap song count? What about Lisa Marie Presley?

      • Wasn’t there one or two lesser celebs who spoke up for the legendary Premier Magazine article in the early 90s?

    • Liberated

      Perhaps the only reason L Ron wasn’t his usual vindictive self to Burroughs was because Burroughs was giving him dope?

      • Liberated

        Burroughs was a big time junkie. Now that I’m on the subject, remember the movie Drugstore Cowboy ? Great movie, Wm. S was great as the junkie priest.

        • flyonthewall

          Love that movie. I hope there are no hats on the bed at Howdycon. I will have to leave with a quickness

          • Liberated

            Don’t even say such a horrible thing.

            • Zeruel (Sebastian)

              Exterminate all rational thought.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      The author of Naked Lunch thought Hubbard was too crazy for him? Who knew…

  • Liberated

    Having never been a smoker, I was always repulsed by the chain smoking and excessive coffee, especially late at night. When I would ask “don’t you care about your health?” they would become indignant and let me know how exempt they were from such common maladies. My favorite was pinching off the filter, gee how original. What self-determinism. What a bunch of arrogant robots!

    • flyonthewall

      Smoking is cool though. As Tom clearly demonstrates here

    • daisy

      They are afraid they will not keep making ashtray*s if they quit. Its the ashtray habit they cannot quit.

      • pat k

        Belly laughs daisy

      • SuppressedPerson

        They can always use their arts n crafts clay to mock up ashtrays. KSW Keep Scientology Wanking

    • Laura Lou

      Smoking is easily the worst choice I’ve ever made in my life (and I’ve made a lot of bad ones). The honest smokers will tell you it’s very, very, VERY difficult to quit, and that they regret starting in the first place. Some people I know have told me it’s easier to quit heroin. There’s no excuse, NONE. I’m a smoker, and I would call the kind of people you’re talking about delusional nitwits.

      • Sandy

        I finally switched to vaping last March. The transition wasn’t too bad for me. I do not believe I could of ever just quit.

        • Laura Lou

          I’m with you. That’s exactly my move too, starting in 48 hours.

          • Sandy

            It will be ok. I was a smoker for 40 years. Just get a shop you can work with and can be honest with. You will be successful.

            • Laura Lou

              Thank you, Sandy! I appreciate your encouragement very much 🙂

            • Sandy

              Because I had decided to never, ever quit smoking, because I am stubborn that way – and I am now vaping, you can always talk to me.

            • Frodis73

              Good luck and you will adjust to it pretty quickly…there are many positives you will quickly discover.

    • Sandy

      You are “repulsed” by coffee drinkers and smokers? Really? I am repulsed by people who are repulsed by us. I both drink coffee and have smoked most of my adult life. Are you sure you want to present yourself as such a person?

      • Frodis73

        I love you!! LOL. Yes, smoking sucks and it can kill…we all know this. I hate getting treated like I kick puppies or diddle kids just because I smoke.

        • Sandy

          Oh, Jeez! I am SO sick of these people! When the MN gov raised the tax on tobacco, I decided – fuck him – I will roll my own.

          Then, they raised the tax on ryo tobacco – yes, of course they did.

          I still rolled my own.

          But, then, the vaping community came along.

          I get my vaping supplies from a nice, small shop in Anoka – a little suburb – and they treat me well.

          • Frodis73

            I think we were separated at birth. I did those same things. I did switch to the vape last xmas but I have been having issues and havent replaced it. Now the govt (and big tobacco) is getting ready to jump in on the vaping stuff…you know, to protect kids. [eye roll] I will light one in your honor and if you come to Howdy Con we will smoke together. 🙂

      • Liberated

        No Sandy, you misunderstood. I’m a huge coffee drinker just because I never smoked doesn’t mean I was being intolerant of smokers. In fact I consider myself very tolerant. My point was the unmitigated arrogance of the cultist back then. Anyone who smokes a lot knows it’s unhealthy——-those assholes thought they were exempt.

  • Judging from the photo above, Tom finally stopped running.
    The African dude reminds me of Nigerian scam photo fails.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      The African dude reminds me of pictures of impoverished African children in National Geographic. Pose is the same.

  • flyonthewall

    Wife’s friend just came by the house to borrow our copy of Troublemaker. Spreading the entheta, feeling the flow…

    • A bird in the chimney

      Major expansion results, fly. (you should have saved telling us until tomorrow, say sometime around 2:01.)

      • flyonthewall

        dang!

        • Kestrel

          You can repeat it tomorrow at around 2:01. It will still count.

          • flyonthewall

            ooh, double-dipped stats are the best kind

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      When you said “borrow the troublemaker”, I thought she took you home with her.

  • Vaquera

    Observation: The two boys in the Cruise photo are sporting what I assume are IAS pins on their lapels.
    Question: Does that mean they are members in their own right, or are they rolled in with the ‘rents?

    • Miss Tia

      i can’t imagine IAS allowing that! they’d need their OWN memembership!! IAS needs MOAR MONEY!!!

      • Vaquera

        Same thought here, but I’m hoping someone with official gouge knows the answer.

        • Miss Tia

          I have no doubt someone here will know the answer!! The bunker knows!! 🙂

    • Kestrel

      Some of the “Humanitarian” rolls include families, not just individuals. Either that, or those kids have the most lucrative paper routes in their city.

      • Vaquera

        Do humanitarians receive lapel pins?

        • Kestrel

          Give ’em enough money and they’ll give you a big honkin’ bowling trophy.

        • Kestrel

          All kidding aside, it looks like you got a Sponsor pin for donating $5,000 in 2006, so, yeah, they probably have a lapel pin for whatever status you are above that as well.

        • Kestrel

          While looking that up, I found this:

          Issue 115 Impact, IAS Scientology magazine, end 2006 :

          PATRON LAUREATE (2) $10,000,000.00

          Bryan & June Zwan
          Bob & Trish Duggan & Family

          DIAMOND MERITORIOUS (3) $5,000,000.00

          Tom Cruise
          Nancy Cartwright
          Craig & Sally Jensen

          PLATINUM MERITORIOUS (8) $2,500,000.00

          Kirstie Alley
          Elizabeth & Michael Baybak & Family
          Doug & Laurie Dohring
          Jenna & Bodhi Elfman
          Jeffrey Jonas
          Larry & Margaret Leong
          Leah Remini & Angelo Pagan
          Ron & Mimi Pollack

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            Tom gives less than the Duggans? B-b-b-b-b-but I thought he was a Big Being!

          • Allie

            Interesting. Where’s Travolta & Preston?

            • Baby

              Well..We know they aren’t cuddlin in bed Allie.

            • Allie

              Haha. Hi Baby! Always great to see you.
              Hope you’re not working too hard and playing more 🙂

            • Baby

              You have no idea Allie Cat..xo

        • Sejanus

          Lapel pins?
          I betcha Dinky Massengil thought they were plaques when he held them!

          • SuppressedPerson

            You win the Internet!

        • Supper Powers

          David Duggan is wearing an an anchor pin.

          • Frodis73

            Oh goodie! Its young Master Douche!

          • Laura Lou

            I totally misread “Duggan” as “Duggar” and thought, “OMG, are we going off topic into the Quiverfulls??? LET’S DO THIS THING.”

          • aquaclara

            I hope he gets out. Really.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Some parents/grandparents buy a friggin’s lifetime membership the day they are born = it’s in the kid’s name, has his/her own membership number. It’s a freakin’ college fund, And a house and seed money for a business. They don’t brag about 10 toes and happy baby smiles, they brag about their status! Gahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

      • Vaquera

        Thx. It bothers me.

        • salin

          Me too. Who needs retirement $? Who needs to buy a house or even have rent $. College fund? Ridiculous MESTness. IAS sponsorship at birth (or early birthday) WooHoo! Insidious system of personal and familial financial ruin.

          • Mockingbird

            Everybody that comes up with these give all your money away systems is always someone receiving the money, as in ALL the money.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Imagine feeling indebted since birth. some of these 2nd and on 3rd gens I guess, the ones who turn into Children of the Corn and get thrown to the SO wolves in their teens and turn to the dark side – I always wonder if they really had a choice.

      • Always Amazed

        Amazing

      • Mockingbird

        Some people sell cars to give money to the IAS.

      • Mockingbird

        I know some folks don’t like politics but I am amused at positions politicians take that remind me of Hubbard. I saw Trump say wages are too high and Bush and several others want to limit then remove social security. We can go from having a tough time to being serfs in neofeudalism. How trendy.

        • Laura Lou

          They’re nothing compared to Ted Cruz, who – and this is taken directly from his website – wants to get rid of the Dept. of Education, the IRS, the EPA, and (of course) Social Security, among others. No way for that to possibly go wrong. Very L. Ron; eliminate any and all groups that might stand even the slightest chance of threatening his ideology.

          • Mockingbird

            Jesus Christ, these guys are all terrible. We need immense structural reforms to limit incompetence and widespread corruption. Our political system is basically a false dichotomy of pick between one of two puppets that are stuck in a structure of oppression and institutional evil which automatically rejects any dissenting voices, kind of like Scientology.

            This form is reused as mayoral, gubernatorial, senatorial etc. elections. The system tolerates slight wiggles within a tiny range, but pretends those wiggles are a broad range of diversity. In truth the range is tiny, and meant to preserve the system and enhance its strength, nothing more.

            Noam Chomsky explains this much better than I ever could.

  • BosonStark

    I liked Aaron’s talk/interview. It was a good adjunct to Leah’s book, which as he mentioned, was good at explaining the allure of Scientology and how absorbed people become in it.

    I’ve also never heard of anyone explain the Miscavige mystique, that even though Aaron never met him personally, he thought of himself as an emissary of the dwarf. I’d only read of a Sea Org member on ESMB, recently out, who said he liked that the rallies didn’t feature too many speeches by other executives and were mostly the Dwarfenführer. And I completely agree with Mike and Aaron’s idea that most Scientologists don’t care if he beats or even murders some of his staff, if he has to. Okay, they didn’t say anything about murder but…

    It all made me think, what would they care about — maybe that there’s no clear or superpowerz, and that Scientology really isn’t saving the planet? Or, something they might notice, like the money squeeze getting to be relentless and above all else? Or, that Scientology is too f’n expensive to save even 5% of the planet? How about that Clearwater isn’t clear yet? That Dr. Hubtard couldn’t make an apple fall from a tree, though he tried? That Tom Cruise hasn’t been able to keep or clear a wife, let alone lead the charge to clear the whole planet?

    As far as missing things in childhood, like going to the movies or the beach, some of my fondest childhood memories involve family hikes, picnics, rowing on the lake, and exploring the river and forest with my friends, playing music. We didn’t think any of it was planetary salvage, but they were beautiful experiences, just playing or enjoying nature. I even have fond memories of the public library and school libraries, all the books there were to explore whatever interested me. There was a freedom in that. I wanted to know about things that were not taught in school, like about Tchaikovsky’s Z.

    • Frodis73

      I really like this post. Great question to ask SO members since they seem to not care what DM does…what would they care about? Anything? Maybe it would have to be murder in order to get their attention. They sure do not seem to care about his missing wife at this time (the ones that know of her at least).

    • SuppressedPerson

      Good point about the contradiction between stated purpose of saving the planet vs cost of Scientology bridge. What about people who can’t even afford food and shelter?

      What a crock! Of course, none of these enlightened beings would ever put 2+2 together.

    • aquaclara

      My fondest childhood memories are like yours….I hope that every lurker with young kids who is here takes a moment to think about this.

      What do you want your children to remember most? A happy childhood, absorbing the things you find In parks, at the beach, or in a library, with real parents right there? Or a nonexistent childhood spent in forced labor, in debt to a man they never can never know, who did nothing to help this earth. You decide. The choice is not that hard.

  • Around 5:10 Mike Rinder talks about how RPF/MEST work was a relief. I can totally relate. You don’t have to deal with musters, meetings, stat pushes and any of the scientology bullshit. And it gives you time to realize things.

  • I am at 12:21. This is only gets better. Thanks Aaron and Mike. Back to watching.

  • StudentOfLife

    Just came from the Ojai Art Film Festival (Nov 6-15th) where I’ve watched (as a volunteer) some incredibly fine documentaries hoping to be picked up by distributors. i’ve got to introduce some film directors and producers and of course I mention Going Clear and the nearly universal responses, words to this effect, are “it’s about time someone told the truth” or “I had no idea it was that bad.”

    I know I told you that Richard Mosier, recently deceased hubby of my OT2 friend, was one of top First Assistant to many famous cinematographers (John Schwarztman using him nearly every film, Seabiscuit, Amazing Spiderman, can’t think of title of the the Sean Connery Nicholas Cage movie about Alcatraz) and Richard told me he witnessed dozens of actors being screwed by LieIntology as well as all the ponzi schemes they used to suck money from never-ins. One very famous cinematographer here, when I mentioned I knew Richard Mosier very well and asked him did he know about Going Clear, he said “Scientology is shooting themselves in the foot going after Paul Haggis and they will pay in more ways than one. It’s not a good time to be Scientologist in Hollywood. They would do well to keep very quiet about their involvement if they wish to continue to work in our town which too long has been afraid of them.”

    Couldn’t follow up as he drew a small crowd as the young filmmakers realized he was there. I rushed home as soon as my shift ended at 7pm PST to type this out nearly word for word as to what he said. Tick Tock, you petulant perverted punching pontiff, aka DLHDM or Captain Four Foot Thirteen David Miscavige.

    • Ella Raitch

      ….. Connery/Cage film was ‘The Rock’

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Leah Remini just shared this on her Facebook page. The NYTimes let her know that Troublemaker will be #1 on the non-fiction bestseller list for next week!

    (refresh)

    • A bird in the chimney

      So awesome. Congrats, Leah! That’s dissemination about $ci that really matters.

      I love everybody in this bar!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And… it was Mrs. D who shared this with me!

    • Planning on getting my copy tomorrow.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Getting week two at the top of the list going!

      • aquaclara

        It’s great. Hint, hint, Amazon link above. And Target had it at a discount.

    • Supper Powers

      Some hobbit dropped another load in his panties.

    • Allie

      Congrats to Leah!! Hope it stays at the top for awhile.
      Edited typo

    • Jimmy3

      Congrats, Leah! Let me buy you a drink at HowdyCon.

      • Ella Raitch

        You know that’s how rumours get started.

  • mon elle

    Quick shots of two of my favorite spots in the deposition what feels like just funny, stupid.

    1). Using Kansas City as a code word for flagging a spot where you will request documents. It’s genius IMHO. Too bad he didn’t go for Xenu.

    2). That 10% licensing fee costs nothing.

    • aquaclara

      Facepalm. Scilon math strikes again.

      • madame duran

        Scientologists are specialists in creative accounting.

    • SuppressedPerson

      Scary…just the same lie mechanism that Hubbard pulled over his 2nd wife and Swiss bank accounts.

      They really take on his personality!!!

    • 10% gross income. A sample copy of the contract. Note that it’s archived from ABLE’s own site.

      http://web.archive.org/web/20040715164506/www.able.org/pages/grp_forms/nn_lic_agr.pdf

  • Thursday before 2pm is just around a corner.
    To every scientologist reading this – RTC, OSA and otherwise – remember when you were just a happy kid?..

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w9KUdoukjM4

    • Jimmy3

      Am I allowed to answer that question?

    • what’sup

      What about the kids who spent 12 hours a day working at Bridge Publications, never seeing Mom and Dad, terrible nutrition and a fucked up education?……They should prolly remember someone elses childhood.

  • Lady Squash

    Cathy Schenkelberg, exScientologist, killed last night at Mrs.Murhphy’s Irish Pub doing a rendition of her “Scientology and the Bridge to Total Bankruptcy”. I drove from Decatur (3hour drive) to see her. It was well worth the trip. Her piece was very moving. I would have sobbed if I hadn’t been in public. Go Cathy. She tells it like it is.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Your phrasing scared me for a moment. I thought you were saying, “Cathy Schenklberg killed last night at Mrs. Murphy’s Irish Pub,” while “doing a rendition of her … etc.” First thought was that I wanted to know who killed her…!

      • StudentOfLife

        I also thought the same thing and instantly thought, so Miscavige’s goons finally pulled the trigger, at least she died a martyr, then reality set in as I read the following sentences.

      • Jimmy3

        Yep.

      • daisy

        Same thought.

      • Lady Squash

        Yeah, sorry about that…

    • aquaclara

      Is that Decatur, Georgia?

      I’m rooting for every ex today. Tell her to call Tony, please. And glad she is alive and well!

      • StudentOfLife

        has to be Decatur Illinois and she drove three hours to St. Louis or Chicago more than likely. I lived in Springfield IL for ten years and know Decatur IL like the back of my hand as I sold yellow pages to the business owners for several years. Very friendly town that smells like rotten eggs (Archer Daniels Midland main plant is there) and though it has it’s rough spots, always enjoyed staying there and made many good friends. Only town I ever worked in that I never taught or played tennis due to the pollution.

      • Supper Powers

        https://soundcloud.com/sparkoffrose/cheap-01-cathy-schenkelberg/s-veAVM

        An example of her stand up. ETA it’s probably called something else but I’m not sure what.

      • Lady Squash

        Decatur, Il

    • SuppressedPerson

      Geez, I have got to stop skimming! “ExScientogist killed last night” was the 1st thing I saw.

      Glad she did a great job! She seems like a neat person. Good for her for speaking out!

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    I’ve only been able to read Tony’s posts lately (the very first thing I do every morning), and sadly I am unable to keep up with the comments, so apologies if this was already posted (and get well soon to Science Doc), but someone who knows me well sent this to me (since I am not on Facebook) so of course I had to share this pic of fat face here. Taken at Tulane today:

    • I knew it and I said it before. Jack Reacher made him do it.

      • Jimmy3

        I knew it and I said it before, Jack Reacharound keeps him coming back for more.

        • Liberated

          Jack Reacharound. Iove it . Can you read my mind?

      • KingofSweden

        Jack Reach-for-the-facial-filler?

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      That does NOT look like Tom Cruise.

      • Judith Sylvester

        Is the dead eyes, the chipmunk cheeks, or the smile that doesn’t turn up anymore because of too much botox, or because he doesn’t really have anything to smile about.?

  • thetastic

    Aaron and Mike, this video is so good. Even better than part 1. The back and forth interview style is so innovative, and draws such insightful parallels. Don’t make us wait too long for part 3!

  • Liberated

    Who the hell are the Duggans? You mean to tell me there are actually civilized people who would give that horseshit cult ten million dollars? This must be a cruel joke!

    • Jimmy3
      • Liberated

        Duggan it’s a verb–it’s a noun—-it’s an asshole ! I think I’m going to be sick.

    • Nat-leficent
    • madame duran

      Next thing you’ll tell me is that you’ve never heard of the Cardones (and if you seriously haven’t, consider yourself blessed).
      REMINDER: POST WARNINGS BEFORE POSTING GRANT CARDONE PICS!!!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Whaddaya got against surprise hamhocks?

      • OOkpik

        Who would want to post a picture of the north end of a warthog headed south, anyway?

  • daisy

    Nite all Fat Beagle exhausted from running away from her proprietor and making her jog. No one wants to see that Sorry wrong posting already used. It is hard to see little picture,

    • Jimmy3

      Wait. I do want to see that.

    • daisy

      Well it would be a laugh for you Jimmy.

  • Liberated

    Thanks people. Well, at least the nit-wit got a freakin trophy.

  • ReallyMGM

    I have only been able to keep up with the blog the past few days and not the comments so much. Work schedule unlikely to change soon. If anyone hears from Science Doc, give him an uproot from me.

    • Rachel

      Sort posts by best and you’ll see latest from Science Doc. Seems things going well after long surgery.

      • ReallyMGM

        Thank you, Rachel. I really appreciate you taking the time to let me know.

  • Lighthouse

    “There’s no discussion from the people I know who are OT 7s and 8s. The focus for all the members who are fully drinking the Kool-aid is getting through the SRD or whatever step they are on. Most Scientologists do not watch or read the news. It’s entheta.

    “Members are bombarded with calls, texts, and emails from the church. I
    get calls and emails every day regarding the next event — New Year’s
    Eve — and the latest Freewinds seminars or conventions. All the amazing
    developments do not seem to get through to members, especially the OT
    8s.”

    Oh, my goodness! It’s unbelievable. But it is true! Once upon a time I would have done the same! I didn’t look at the Internet until I was already out!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      How would you have avoided a story like this? Leah on television, Leah on magazine covers, Leah’s book a bestseller… I am genuinely curious how it could be done.

      • ReallyMGM

        Take heart that Tory was once an OTVII and found her way out, and Leah was almost there and found her way out with her family intact. It can be done. More and more cracks in the great empire. Tic Tok

  • Lighthouse

    The only good thing about the guy taking Way To Happiness books into his township is that none of those people can afford scn. They may even venture to do a little course or two. After that, they’ll bail out because they have no option – no money. The staff will lose interest in them.

    One or two may be snapped up for staff and think they’ve got a job. When they don’t get paid, they won’t turn up at work because they won’t have the transport money to get there!

    I know because I live in South Africa and have witnessed this many times.

    • kemist

      Why would anyone turn up for a job they’re not getting paid for anyway ?

      I certainly wouldn’t.

      • Lighthouse

        Yes, but they would know only on payday when they don’t get paid. And then they would be told it’s their own fault because they didn’t produce enough.

  • Graham

    Hey Tommy Boy, here’s how you could get some positive publicity. Step out of the Bubble and give some help to some people actually trying to make a difference in the real world http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-34793207
    Aint gonna happen tho is it?

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Thanks Mike and Aaron for part 2 of your chat. Listening right now.
    I could sit and listen for hours to your stories. Maybe it is Mike’s accent that makes it easy to listen to. 🙂

  • MostEthicalPimp

    I know it’s late here and that might be effecting my thinking. But are we sure that’s Tom Cruise? I mean it wouldn’t be above DM and TC to send a body double? or I mean OT Clone.

    • madame duran

      It’s Tom Cruise. He’s still got that off centre tooth, the squinty Mapother eyes and no bulge in his crotch. Blame botox, steroids, aging or all of the above for the facial puffiness.

  • Fink Jonas

    The false idea in scientology is that; “everything is being done on your behalf”, or that it is “GOOD for you”, so they slip right thru you unchecked.

  • MrsLurksALot

    So, I guess we are waiting? I’m sure it will be well worth it. Waving to all, good morning!

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I’ll put the coffee on.

      • MrsLurksALot

        I’ve got some day old Danish….very tasty.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          All I have is the coffee and some homemade pimento cheese spread…we might want to save that for an afternoon snack. 😀

          • MrsLurksALot

            I agree. I do have fresh bread, crusty yet soft. Kinda like me.

        • Ella Raitch

          I’m having a cheese and crackers evening snack

        • kemist

          Bacon and eggs, my usual breakfast.

          Then it’s programmer juice (coffee) til dinner time.

          It’s nice to be able to have only 2 meals a day again since I got hypoglycemia under control.

      • pixie dust

        Can I have espresso? I’m looking for my iron on smile so I can go to work today.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          Absolutely. ; )

          • pixie dust

            NOLA –
            I hope you get this as I am a dinosaur when it comes to this kind of thing.
            I didn’t think it appropriate to put on today’s board, but I wanted you to know how sorry I am about what happened with Tia. I just read that screed and none of you deserved that.
            I saw how kind you (especially) and others were to her. Seeing that genuine care and concern for her was what made me realize what a special group of people are on the Bunker. You’re a good woman, NOLA. I’m sending you healing thoughts and a big virtual hug. pixie

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Thanks honey. No one who was her friend deserved that and I’ll never understand it. It did hurt but I’m trying to move on and it just pisses me off when some random poster throws it in as a way to show how “mean” we are. Tia received nothing but support here. Even more support off the board. Thanks for the love, I appreciate it. *hugs*

    • Ella Raitch

      Tony must be blowing the ink dry on today’s post

      • MrsLurksALot

        He’s old school like that. 😉

  • aquaclara

    Good morning. It does amaze me that a)Tony never sleeps in, and b) never runs out of story ideas.

    So how’s the coffee?

    • anoni81b4u

      Coffee is hot at my house, Wake and bake 🙂 (anyone else drink “Chock full o’ nuts”?)
      Time to make the doughnuts …………….

  • Frodis73

    All this talk about food has me craving fresh donuts…yum. It is cold out (to me anyway) and need to motivate myself to actually walk down there and get some.

  • Observer

    This is why I put Lisa on the banner being carried by the rider on the pale horse, far left, as a symbol of bereaved and disconnected families.

    refresh

  • Margie8

    Crazy jerks! I can’t believe they exist. They’ve got something on the government or they’re just really enjoying the money.

  • Jester1137

    You’ve got to love the happy face of a man who has found free toilet paper.