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The Church of Scientology: A rollicking legacy of belligerence, profanity, paranoia, and violence

The Church of Scientology has long promoted itself as the most ethical group on the planet. However, the following thirty examples, collected by our friend Jeffrey Augustine and listed here chronologically, present a prolific portrait of Church belligerence, profanity, paranoia, and violence in recent years. We sense a trend.

1. September 2004: Scientology OT Tom Cruise in Rolling Stone, “The Passion of the Cruise,” sets the tone for bad behavior. As the world would later learn, the church was secretly auditioning wife candidates for Tom Cruise that year.

 
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2. 2008 and later: New OT VIII Goodwill Ambassador Kirstie Alley is obviously not aligned with the principles contained in The Way to Happiness as she spreads entheta around Los Angeles. Even as Kirstie is giving the “OT Salute” to the paparazzi, she is also on Twitter attacking those who disagree with her views. Alley has grown increasingly belligerent online, including her personal attacks on Leah Remini.

 
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3. 2009 and later: Allegations that David Miscavige physically attacked his high ranking Church staff members become the subject of a major story in the Tampa Bay Times and then in an Anderson Cooper special. The image of a diminutive Miscavige leaping on tables so he can pummel Jefferson Hawkins or tackle Mike Rinder become nearly a permanent fixture in stories about Scientology ever after.

 
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4. 2009: Scientologist and attorney Kendrick Moxon gives the OT Salute while seated at a restaurant:

 
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5. January 2010, Denver, Colorado: Scientology New OT VII Rex Fowler is arrested for shooting and killing his business partner at point blank range. Fowler then turned the gun on himself. His suicide attempt having failed, Fowler was convicted of first degree murder in 2011 and sentenced to life in prison:

 
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6. April 2011: The 199-day siege of former Scientology executive Mark “Marty” Rathbun and his wife Monique at their home in Ingleside by the Bay, Texas begins. In one of its most bizarre operations ever, Scientology sends a goon squad to watch and follow Marty and Monique. The Squirrel Busters operation confirmed the Church’s reputation for vicious lunacy:

 

 
7. May 2011: Scientology lawyer Gur Finklestein is indicted on 11 felony charges including attempted murder, sabotage, attempted sabotage, causing damage with explosives, arson, conspiring to commit a crime and aggravated assault. Finkelstein is eventually sentenced to eight years in prison for hiring a hitman to kill his ex-wife’s business partner and was acquitted of the 2011 arson charges in which it was alleged he hired mobsters to burn down the Alhambra Theater, a Scientology-owned property in Jaffa, Israel.

 
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8. June 2011: Scientologist Jan Eastgate is arrested for covering up a case of molestation in the church. After being represented by expensive church-funded lawyers, charges are dropped against her in 2012.

 
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9. October 2011: Russian Police raid the Church of Scientology in Moscow:

 
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10. July 2012: Katie Holmes escapes from Tom Cruise. Cruise would later admit in deposition that part of the reason Katie left him was to keep Suri out of Scientology clutches. Aaron Smith-Levin’s recent interview with Nick Lister served to add additional context to Tom Cruise’s maniacal Scientology control over his family members.

 
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11. October 2012: Vanity Fair reports on the Church’s secret 2004 wife auditions for Tom Cruise:

 
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12. September 2012, Los Feliz, California: Scientologist Johnny Lewis murders his landlady, dismembers her cat, and then kills himself:

 
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13. January 2013: David Miscavige’s comically self-aggrandizing advertorial in The Atlantic turns into yet another PR disaster for the Church. The media lambastes The Atlantic for publishing this story-like ad. The website yanks the ad in less than 24 hours and publicly apologizes for its actions.

 
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14. 2013 and later: Continuing stories of Narconon lawsuits and deaths:

 
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15. April 2013: Narconon in Atlanta raided over allegations of credit card fraud…

 
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16. May 2013: Allegations of multimillion dollar insurance fraud at Narconon Atlanta:

 
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17. June 2013: David Miscavige’s twin sister Denise Gentile is arrested for DUI, misdemeanor possession of marijuana and failure to yield. A Tampa Bay Times story detailed allegations that Denise would take marijuana from her tenant in lieu of rent money. High-priced lawyers later get Denise out of her legal problem:

 
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18. July 2013: Tony Ortega reports new information about the mountain compound where David Miscavige’s wife, Shelly, has been living throughout her apparent exile…

 
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19. August 2013: Scientologist Devon Newman, PR Director of Scientology’s Las Vegas Org, is arrested by Las Vegas police in a bizarre kidnap-murder plot:

 
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20. August 2013: Tony Ortega reports on Leah Remini filing a missing person report on Shelly Miscavige with the LAPD. The disappearance of Shelly Miscavige quickly becomes an international news story.

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21. August 2013: A Texas judge issues a temporary restraining order against Scientology’s global ecclesiastical Leader David Miscavige:

 
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22. October 2014: Tony Ortega posts a truly disturbing and well-documented article about Scientology OT and billionaire Bob Duggan shipping his problem children off to Africa:

 
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23. Social media 2014: Becoming increasingly well known for their utter lack of class, Scientology OT’s Grant and Elena Cardone give, viewers the OT Salute:

 
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24. January 2015: The Telegraph reports on wiretapping revelations from Alex Gibney’s documentary about Scientology, Going Clear:

 
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25. February 2015: Scientologist Danny Masterson drops F bombs all over the place in Paper Magazine:

 
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26. April 2015: The Los Angeles Times breaks a blockbuster story about two private investigators paid $10,000 per week for 18 months to spy on Ron Miscavige Sr., father to church leader David Miscavige who, when he was asked about his father apparently having a heart attack, allegedly told the private eyes, “let him die.”

 
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27. April 2015: Tony Ortega posts audio of the police interviews of the private investigators who followed Ron Miscavige Sr. while carrying an arsenal…

 
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28. May 2015: Freedom magazine editor Jennifer Lankheim uses the word “bullshit in an attempt, apparently, to prove she has street cred.

 
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29. July 2015: Scientology spokesperson Karin Pouw responds to allegations that David Miscavige spied on his own father, calling the allegations “provable bullshit” — a new low for Scientology PR.

 
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30. July 2015: Jenna and Bodhi Elfman drop the F bomb and more in a sexually explicit YouTube video. Jenna Elfman at 15:25 – “I’d blow a horse to be able to sit around all day and watch Netflix…” The money Jenna’s parents gave her to attend charm school was apparently spent elsewhere.

 

 
— Jeffrey Augustine

 
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BOOK NOTES
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We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Our upcoming appearances (and check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour)…

 
July 24: San Antonio, Folc Restaurant/Park Social, 6 pm

July 25: Austin, Cafe Express on Lamar, 3 pm, Center for Inquiry

July 29: Paris, Le Bistrot Landais, 19:00 (with Jonny Jacobsen)

August 4: London, Conway Hall, 19:30, (with John Sweeney)

August 24: Boston, Boston Skeptics in the Pub, 7 pm (with Gregg Housh)

Sept 15: Arizona State University

Sept 23: Cleveland, Parma Heights Library, 7pm sponsored by Center for Inquiry – Northeast Ohio

Sept 24: Minneapolis

Sept 27: Portland

Sept 28: Seattle

Sept 29: Vancouver, BC

 
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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of LA attorney and former church member Vance Woodward

UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists

GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice

SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer
The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill
The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

Our Guide to Alex Gibney’s film ‘Going Clear,’ and our pages about its principal figures…
Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 
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  • nottrue
    • Observer

      Hahaha!

    • Baby

      “And if she’s smart, she’ll become Cruise’s ex girl friend ASAP.” bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahhaa

    • AintMizBahavin

      you might look up donald marshall he tells about underground cloning centers that the 1% have and davey n his bitch boy are supposedly big peons in it. i dont know if its true or not but its good for some laughs and some of the things he has talked about definitely ring true. also lets not forget that susan reed declared tom fool is a alien in her online book the body snatchers which she wrote many years back. lmao

  • Frodis73

    I have a question for any and all ex sci’s. I watched Going Clear again not long ago. During the scene where DM is getting ready to make the announcement about tax exemption he makes an interesting comment. It’s something along the lines of him meeting somebody at the IRS and them saying to him I don’t want to talk with you, you are just a brainwashed, zombie scientologist. DM then laughs and says something like well, anybody that knows me can imagine how well that went over. And everybody in the crowd laughed. I took his comment to mean that he’s a hard ass and everybody knows it. We all know that the ppl that work close to him know he’s a mean jerk, but this was a huge crowd and lots of celebs and public sci’s were in the audience. The vast majority of them have never met the guy. So what’s with that comment? Was it general knowledge that he was an intense, hard ass that won’t take no for an answer kinda thing?
    I hope this made sense, but it’s something that sticks out in my mind each time I watch that scene…I thought most sci’s thought he was this super nice guy vs tough guy from Philly kind of thing that he played up in that statement.
    Also I really hope Going Clear plays Cleveland when it is in theaters again. I really feel like seeing those Naziesque rallies up on the big screen is something that *must* be seen on the big screen to really drive home the point.

    • Baby

      He was just being his usual HARD ASS.. Pufin his chest out like a Rooster..but he’s really just a Cock

      • Frodis73

        That’s how I took it…when you talk to regular sci’s they act like he’s a JC type figure NOT a hard ass…so it just seemed odd that they all laughed like they all know he is a dick vs a nice guy.

    • “So what’s with that comment?”
      Him and Marty harassed IRS with parishioners money and won. That’s my take.

    • Ruby

      It is the general, arrogant attitude that ALL cherch members have. That’s why they all laffed. They all know that they are NOT brainwashed zombies and that they know more than the guy who accused him of that.

      • Frodis73

        I hadn’t thought about it that way and that rings true to my ears.

  • Jimmy3

    F5

    • Are you related to Bodhisattwa or to Elfs?

      • Baby

        You are early tonight Dodo.. I love you too

    • Jimmy3

      That’s probably (read: definitely) not really Bodhi Elfman. I just thought it made a great screenshot.

      • kemist

        You posted that ? 😉

        • Jenna3 did.

          • Eivol Ekdal

            Jeebus – could you just imagine that incarnation?

        • Jimmy3

          Can’t be sure who did. I took the screenshot tho

      • Baby

        Hahahhahahha.. Good one Jimmy..Have I ever told you how much I love you? Well, I do..You always make me laugh.

      • Frodis73

        Is it real? Give us the link!!!!!!!!!! BTW-you will be in Parma on the 23rd right mister??

        • Jimmy3

          I hope so

          • Frodis73

            You better be there! There will be cake.

        • Eclipse-girl

          You will have a wonderful time.

          I would like to go to that one but it is just too far away.
          I hope to attend the next night in Minneapolis, but driving between Cleveland and the twin cities And attending both events is more than I think I am capable of.

          • Frodis73

            Yes, that is tough. I did Cleveland to Cedar Rapids and that was long. I have faith we will meet one day!

            • Eclipse-girl

              We shall. Some day.

      • AintMizBahavin

        lol

  • Baby

    [IMG]http://i57.tinypic.com/2e0kdhh.gif

    • Allie

      Love it, Baby. Another Happy Dance! Suddenly perked up my energy level.

      • Baby

        Oh Allie.. Happy Dances are always encouraged in the Bunker.. ; D

  • Sydjazz

    wow go ot and become classy thetan beings. ugh. disgusting!

  • Baby

    Tony we miss you but ………..( f5)

    • Frodis73

      OMX!! I want to kiss those little tummies and paws. They are so cute they should be illegal. Those faces…I am a pile of goo over here.

      • Baby

        Oh doggie.. Me too.. I want them all.. I could just sqqqqqqqqqqqqueeeeeeeeeze them..

    • flyonthewall

      Who would of thought that such severely deformed babies could be so cute!

      ETA – Looks like some kind of failed Dr. Moreau walrus/human genetic experiment

      • Baby

        and throw in a little piggy..

    • EmmaDaoust

      Looks like my last boyfriend

      • Baby

        hahhahahhahaha Emma.. that was funny..

        • EmmaDaoust

          yes, well …

    • Cupcakes for Breakfast

      Bellies!

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Now, that is adorable!

  • Robert Hammond

    If the rumors about Tom Cruise’s new assistant/girlfriend are true, she should take a lesson from Katie Holmes and make a run for it while she can before it’s too late. (refresh) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O1Qb3_7mauw

    • Baby

      Ohhhhhhhh Robert that looks good. She is so pretty.

      • Robert Hammond

        Miss Meadows is a good movie. I saw it on Netflix a couple months ago. Worth checking out if you get a chance.

        • flyonthewall

          You know what else is good on Netflix? Nightcrawler with Jake Gylenhaal. Freelance news photographer who seems overambitious and creepy at first but is actually a cold sociopathic sob.

          • Jimmy3

            I really liked Nightcrawler, too. It was a strange character for Gyllenhal, as he wasn’t a hero type or a confused kid, like he usually plays. And he nailed it.

            But Walter White was not a sociopath. He was a desperate man who gradually became more and more comfortable with cruel means justifying an end. He was a regular guy become corrupt.

            • flyonthewall

              It’s not just the violence that Walt became more comfortable with and even enjoyed eventually, it’s the lies, control and fulfilling his ego at any cost that makes him a sociopath. He was a pathological liar and a control freak from the get go. Being violent and/or murdering people isn’t what makes you a sociopath. An oversimplification would be that they lack empathy and morality. Both of which he was sorely lacking very early on.

              https://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201305/how-spot-sociopath

              I don’t know about you but I read that list and it fits Walt to a T way before he got all psycho drug lord kingpin.

            • Jimmy3

              He was afraid. He feared for the future of his family, and he was placing their long-term well-being over his own fear of death. That’s not a sociopathic trait. He genuinely loved his family.

              There are many examples of him not acting like a sociopathic well outside his family, too. Just one off the top of my head is when that dude is In the basement. He’s making him a sandwich, and he remembers the guy doesnt like the crust, so he cuts the crust off the damn sammich for him.

              Is that a sociopath? Complete control over the dude. Doesn’t even have to feed him or whatever. But he fixes him a sandwich just the way he likes it. Come on. A true sociopath wouldn’t do that.

            • flyonthewall

              Plunging himself into the criminal underworld is a funny way of looking out for the well being of his family. If it was a more realistic show his family probably would of all been killed after the shit he pulled. He did not genuinely love his family. Feeding his ego and protecting his pride was always more important to him than his family. He told himself it was for his family and he probably believed it too but that’s just another one of his lies.

              It wasn’t a choice between taking charity and his family living in poverty. Walt could of taken the job at Gray Matter. The job offer was not charity. He would of had a great salary and probably awesome stock options etc that would of provided for his family if he would of died. Instead, he risked what life he had left and his family’s life to feed his ego and pride. There was also the temptation of fast cash and the excitement of being a criminal. It was all about him, not his family.

              Crazy 8 in the basement is an interesting example. I would say that he just didn’t have it in him yet to murder, he had to build up to that. Sociopaths are not automatic murders. Also, I think that having a person under your total control would be very appealing to a sociopath. Anyhoo, I don’t want to play amateur psychologist bc I start to sound like Mockingbird. I just feel in my heart of hearts that Walt is fucking prick and I hate his guts.

            • Jimmy3

              That’s actually a really interesting way of looking at it: that he didn’t start doing what he did because he loved his family so much, but rather that he loved himself so much that he wouldn’t want to be remembered as leaving them broke. I haven’t thought of it that way before.

              But I still don’t think he is or ever was a sociopath. He was a middle-aged genius that never profited from his genius, and he was tapped out on all of his of luck, and he was nearing the end of his rope, and his metaphor tank was running dry. So he made a poor decision, which led to a series of even poorer decision. The motives behind it are open to speculation. BUT YOUR SPECULATION IS RONG

            • flyonthewall

              I never said he didn’t want to be remembered anyway or another. You’re like blatantly putting words in my mouth, prob to fuck with me and get me all wound up, lol. Your jedi mind tricks won’t work on me.

              I would rather be rong than wrong. For all I know rong could be something really cool like a meth cook or something.

            • Jimmy3

              I know you didn’t say that, but that’s how I processed what you said in my brain. Because my brain is still running on a Pentium II.

            • flyonthewall

              Gotchya, sorry. I replied again just now explaining myself better.

            • flyonthewall

              I don’t mean to beat a dead horse or anything but I just got done watching the entire BB series for the 2nd time and Walt does finally admit his true motives in the very last episode. In the same conversation he also lies about what happened to the rest of his money. I just thought it important that you know you were wrong and I was right. 😉

            • Jimmy3

              Why does he constantly go out of his way to keep Jesse alive? He doesn’t need Jesse after he meets Gus. Jesse is entirely irrelevant, but Walt really doesn’t want them to kill him.

              He’s not a sociopath.

            • flyonthewall

              Characters would be very boring and one dimensional if they were black and white. There’s going to be some gray area that lets you see glimmers of humanity from even the darkest characters. It keeps you engaged with them and emotionally invested in the show. I’m sure some part of him had genuine affection for Jesse just like he did for Hank but that didn’t stop him from ruining them both. Walt turned Jesse over to the nazis to be tortured and killed, remember? And just to twist the knife, Walt told Jesse he could of saved Jane but instead watched her die, just to crush him emotionally.

              There were also practical reasons for keeping Jesse alive and even saving his life. Remember that for a time Jesse was the only thing keeping Gus from killing Walt. Walt also needed Jesse as an able lab assistant who was no competition to him, like Gale was. Jesse was loyal to Walt and Walt knew that and made full use out of it in order to kill Gus and become the head honcho. There’s also the control and influence Walt had over Jesse, which Walt craved.

              Give the show another if you feel up to it. There’s a lot of nuances and events that make a lot more sense on a 2nd viewing. Not saying my pov is the only right one, just that you may see where I’m coming from if you give it another watch.

            • Jimmy3

              You’ve convinced me that Walt is a lot shittier and lot less sympathetic of a person than I had always seen thought of him. I still don’t believe he’s a sociopath tho.

              I will give it another watch. I’ve seen a couple of the seasons twice, but not the entire show start to finish.

            • flyonthewall

              Just in case you’re not teasing me, what I’m referring to with ego and pride is that he wanted to be the chemistry genius still and make money but on his own terms. He felt cheated out of Gray Matter and humiliated at being a high school teacher. By cooking meth he would be able to still be the chemistry genius and make mad cash on his own terms all at the same time. Ego and pride

    • Supper Powers

      Somewhere, there’s another father planning his daughter’s escape….

      • Robert Hammond

        Any father with a conscience should be very worried to see his daughter with someone like Cruise. See: https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/then-there-is-me-tom-cruise/

        • Supper Powers

          I am grateful to Leah Remini for making the anti-CoS movement more mainstream than ever. She is the advocate needed to educate the public that CoS is dangerous. This is the rare moment pop culture works for the betterment of society. I hope this young woman cashes her Tom Cruise assistant check and moves on.

          • Robert Hammond

            Yes. Leah is bringing the conversation to a whole new audience. Many people still haven’t see Going Clear and are not hard core interested in the subject. But Leah’s down to earth reality show helps make the story real for many people.

            So many stories coming out from people who have been negatively effected by the cult. It’s hard for people to be unaware of the danger anymore.

    • ReallyMGM

      Is the cult trolling high schools for his girlfriends now? Loser!

      • Robert Hammond

        He does appear to be getting desperate. The cult will do whatever it takes to bring up his image and help him make more money.

        “MAKE MONEY. MAKE MORE MONEY. MAKE OTHER PEOPLE PRODUCE SO AS TO MAKE MORE MONEY.”

        – L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 9 March 1972, MS OEC 384

      • Frodis73

        It sounds interesting that’s for sure. Not sure how well Katie can handle something that deep though. I like her, but I don’t think she’s that good of an actress. Sorry to anybody that loves her!

        • She is the first woman ever who dumped Tom Cruise. She can do/handle anything.

          • Robert Hammond

            Being married to her must have required some amazing acting as well.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Being married to her him must have required some amazing acting as well.

              FIFY 😉

            • Robert Hammond

              Oh wow! Freudian slip. ;^D I meant to say “married to him.”

            • Eclipse-girl

              I thought you did.
              I make lots of mistakes. you should not worry about one little one.

          • PerpetualOutflow

            And a big hip hip hurray to this!

          • Frodis73

            Oh yeah, she gets mad love from me for that one!

        • daisy

          She is actually a good actress, she just hasn’t had great parts. If your interested she was very good in Pieces of April. She was also good in the Stepford Wives and its sequel pretending to love her husband while planning her escape. The sequel was much better than the original

          • Frodis73

            She was good in Pieces of April. She needs to break that habit of doing that thing with her mouth! Lol. I don’t remember her in Stepford Wives at all…the one with Nicole Kidman or is there another one?

            • daisy

              She wasn’t in Stepford Wives, the movie is about robatic women seemingly under a trance. Just a mis-fired joke. I cant compete with the people in the bunker and souldnt even try

      • Robert Hammond

        I hadn’t heard about Mania Days until you just mentioned it. Looks interesting. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2015/03/16/paul-dalio-mania-days_n_6867580.html

        • Frodis73

          It looks like Katie got some good reviews according to the comments. Good for her. I really want to see this. First time I heard about this too.

    • SP Wogsy

      WoW!!! Is this going to be a movie about a vigilante that kills murderers?

    • jazzlover

      That’s creepy — like Scientology level creepy 😉

    • edge

      Again, this could all be put out by his PR handlers to make him seem like a ‘normal’ guy ahead of the release of MI:5. First was the report that he was leaving SCN for Suri. Not true. Now this. I do agree with your point though. Any woman who gets close to Tom probably got told numerous times directly and otherwise that Tom is the “big being” in the relationship.

      • Frodis73

        It amazes me that after everything known about him that somebody out there is willing to marry that creep. Not really I guess, money talks after all. Can you imagine though how awful life with that man must be? GAG. I’d last about 10 minutes in a room with him before I’d want to kick him the nuts.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Could it be possible that she is a clam? I’m sure someone has looked into, right?

        • Missionary Kid

          It’s a matter of information, and picking young, naive girls who have stars in their eyes.

      • Robert Hammond

        I think these are PR stories as well. It seems like the only kind of woman who would really go for him would be someone who was born into the cult and totally brainwashed to avoid looking at any outside media.

    • madame duran

      I don’t buy the rumour as true. Think of the extensive transformation that Nazanin Boniadi had to go through before she even met Cruise (dental work, clothes shopping, hair salon)…and she was already attractive to start. This “Emily” looks plain; no effort on the physical presentation. The few photos we’ve seen show her acting as an assistant of some sort, not as a girlfriend (she’s subservient to Cruise, not an equal nor as even a treasured trophy). No PDAs, no flirtation, no reports of canoodling off-set. Body language does not lie. They are miles apart.
      CRUISE PR TEAM: WE SEE RIGHT THROUGH YOUR LAME LIES!!!

  • EmmaDaoust

    What is that thing where every weird thing you see makes you think it must be connected to the $Con? Such as, perhaps, maybe, this..

    https://ca.news.yahoo.com/body-mystery-man-decomposed-car-1-200-guns-060803046.html

  • an Enty reveal a few of us knew about already (I think)

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    • …oh, and here’s his take on Cruise and his niece story… should have credited the Bunker IMO

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      • Frodis73

        I love that he picked this up. I wish more outlets would have run with this. Jeez, Star where the heck are you when there is some real good info? Crickets.

    • Allie

      Not a fan – past, present or future. Glad his ex is speaking out.

    • Robert Hammond

      His ex, Carmen is courageous for standing up for herself and speaking out. Glad she wrote that Gawker article.

      http://gawker.com/why-i-left-scientology-1703997050

      • Todd Tomorrow

        She is a firecracker. I love her now!

    • jazzlover

      Who’s he talking about, and does this mean he’s blown?

      • Eclipse-girl

        at the bottom of the blind item is a name. That is the person who the article is about

        Jason Lee has not blown, but his ex wife Carmen Llwelyn has blown and started speaking out.
        She was to appear in Toronto at the week but was unable to.

        • jazzlover

          Oh ok. I knew about her coming out. I was confused because the blind item looked like a letter written BY Jason Lee. Makes sense now. Thanks for the explanation 🙂

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Not a fan either, but Carmen’s article really caused a stir. I am glad for that. Seems like even a decade later, she’s still healing. My heart goes out to her.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Can’t be talking about Gay Risby or $cientology can he? He’ll be PTS or an SP.

    • Frodis73

      Oh so ethical!

    • Missionary Kid

      I just hope Carmen doesn’t get shorted on child support as a result.

    • ReallyMGM

      I think Kevin Smith is working on Clerks 3. Maybe Jason can get a couple of lines in it. Won’t pay much though.

  • Vinay Agarwala

    Looks like the Church of Scientology is trying to let it all blow over. That means they are overwhelmed right now.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      By Hubbard’s “logic” does all of the terrible press and bad stories about Scientology mean that they are actually winning? I seem to recall that this was his spin.

  • Baby

    Night good people on the Bunker..Plus all of our wonderful lurkers.. Peace Out.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Night, Baby.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Tuck Tuck

    • SP Wogsy

      Sleep tight gorgeous Baby

      • Baby

        OHhhh ” Gorgeous” that has a special ring to it..hahha

    • Robert Hammond
      • Baby

        thanks Robert.. lovely song.. ; D

  • Eclipse-girl
  • Meepthorp

    Maybe JS will have Alex Gibney on the show to make up for it.

  • Robert Hammond

    “Ye shall know them by their fruits.”

    Looking again at all the stories above, it’s sad to see how people can be trained to be so full of false pride and hate.

    We are born to shimmer and shine (refresh) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9doqLZdSQfQ

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Fellow bunkerites. My avocation is Greyhound rescue, I’ve done it since my teens. If you haven’t signed my petiton, please do. We are so close to half a million. Thanks, Todd
    Hello,

    I just signed the petition, “Anima Macau: Please help us end the suffering of our greyhounds!.”

    I think this is important. Will you sign it too?

    Here’s the link:

    http://www.change.org/p/anima-macau-please-help-us-end-the-suffering-of-our-greyhounds

    Thanks, to all that signed last time!

    • daisy

      If someone can tell me whats up with my shift key, I can not bring up my E-mail or any punctuation or at key in my E-mail address. I will gladly sign anything involving animal rescue, Have I accidently pressed something rendering it useless. I will take it in if no one knows, Its making me crazy asking questions without punctuation.

      • Eclipse-girl

        did you hit caps lock?
        its on the left side of the keyboard.

    • daytoncapri

      Ok Todd, I did it…hate to throw cold water, but how much impact can a USA sig affect events in Chinese Macau?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Land is in short supply and gambling is very bad for the locals. We got the Phillipines to not start it after the track was built and rescued 150 dogs from an Island 6 years ago. Rented a jet from Continental. Some of the locals are sadly immune to the horrid treatment. But we could possibly make a deal to import them for adoption in the US, if this doesn’t work. We’ve brought dogs in from Spain and Dubai. Lots of people are passionate and we have Mexico giving us all their dogs.

  • Always Amazed

    Woohoo! Two Hundred and Two!!

  • Robert Hammond

    Interesting Disqus comments on this Scientology movie article on TMZ. Feel free to jump in if you’re interested in joining the conversation.

    http://www.tmz.com/2015/07/21/scientology-tom-cruise-top-gun-summer-movie#comment-2154120610

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      I went there and made some comments. Good job Robert.

      • Robert Hammond

        Thanks Dee. Saw your posts. Good stuff. Fun, huh?

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Yes, have encountered her/him before and has responded a little. Elle loves you! haha

    • Dave In Ajax

      I see elle took you to school 😀

      • Robert Hammond

        Yeah. Delphi Academy with pointy student hats and everything.

  • SarahDB

    It’s time for the night shift here in the Bunker, and also time for a little reminder about striking a small red x for truth by flagging scammy clammy ads on CL.

    Clammy scammy ads: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Red X Tips: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2533632

    Send out some Bunker love by clicking the heart above and refresh

  • Jimmy3

    Last one for the road. Didn’t go so well. (F5)
    Goodnight Bunker folk.

    • April

      bwahahahahaa … this made my day.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Jason Lee’s Ex-wife on J. Elfman;
    Shortly after I left Scientology, I ran into one of my former
    faux-friends, Jenna Elfman, at Fred Segal in L.A. She walked up to me
    and said “Hi” and stared in my face for a second in a
    semi-confrontational way. I was shocked for a second but said hello, how
    are you, thinking it was going to be a normal conversation. But rather
    than telling me how she was, she went on a rant about all the courses
    she was working on and finishing in Scientology to let me know that
    nothing other than religion mattered. She didn’t ask me how I was. She
    didn’t wish me well or ask me about my life. She wasn’t interested. I
    was just supposed to listen to her while she lectured me in that tone-40
    type of voice and told me I needed to get back on “the bridge.” Then
    she walked off without saying goodbye. It was a very cold encounter.
    (Honestly, even when I was a Scientologist, I thought the Elfmans—Jenna
    and her husband, Bodhi, who married me and Jason—were cheesy people.
    They sent out a monthly newsletter in the mail to everyone they knew
    called “The Elfman Empire” listing all their Hollywood projects and
    Scientology work they were doing. It was funny.) Anyway, Jenna thought
    she was being a good Scientologist by talking to me that way. Of course,
    they’re trained to act like that.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      So, who can get the Bunker a copy of The Elfman Empire? There are kitties and cake in it for you, I am sure…

      • daisy

        Too Funny but seriously I have gained 10 lbs since reading this blog

        • SP Wogsy

          I am eating fresh chocolate chip cookies right now. I know I am not helping.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Next, you’ll tell us you have prepared fresh cheddar bay biscuits too?

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Oh, I know. I get no work done anymore, I’m so distracted. Wait…do I smell cookies?

      • daisy

        Oh and no one has offered me a drink.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Just hang out for a bit. That’ll change. ; )

        • Eclipse-girl

          here you go .

          • daisy

            Thanx so much.

      • Dave In Ajax

        not sure if the elfman empire actually exists, when this first was published I have yet to see anyone show anything that proves this, and these days that is hard to hide

        • Frodis73

          It’s a private magazine type thing they send out to family members (that’s how I understood it anyway). That would be kind of hard to get a hold of since it prob stays within the family.

          • Dave In Ajax

            makes sense, what an empire, sent out to 10 family members lol

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          A girl can dream, though… ; )

    • I’ve asked her to send me an “The Elfman Empire” newsletter if she still one…

  • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Gon

      Guy looks like a million bucks. He is in amazing physical shape and that suit was tailored for him. Nothing looks “off” from my perspective. Freaking 53? How old is he? Wow. That is what being alive looks like. No wonder he is one of the most admired and loved actors in the world.

      • Dave In Ajax

        yes he looks good for his age, money can buy you that, but most admired and loved actors in the world…. lol, says who, show me that proof

        • Gon

          Well, Chris Farley, Elvis, Oprah, and all the others seem to indicate that $ has nothing to do with it.

          Re: “proof”, it is just an opinion I happen to have. He is obviously not one of the most admired and loved actors in the world, nobody is, that does not exist in reality, it is purely conceptual.

          • SP Wogsy

            Can we leave Oprah out of this?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Hey, once you’ve let a clam jump all over your couch, all bets are off. 🙂

          • Dave In Ajax

            well that is such a well thought out reply, can you put away your heroin if you feel like replying….yeesh

            • Gon

              That insult was necessary?

            • Dave In Ajax

              t r o l l ……………..buh bye

            • Missionary Kid

              No,but it made me laugh.

            • Eclipse-girl

              … f5

          • Eclipse-girl

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Are you referring to the many Academy Awards that are sitting on his mantel next to his “Freedom Medal of Valor” award. Oops, wait a minute…

      • daytoncapri

        I agree with you actually, he looks pretty good in that photo.

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        Were it not for Scientology, he would not be who he is today.

        • Dave In Ajax

          crazy is a good thing???

        • Frodis73

          Sad isn’t it? He was a much better actor before they got into him. I bet his career would be very different if he would have stayed away from them.

      • Eclipse-girl

        . . .

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        HA! “Freaking” is spot on. Freaking, Freaky, Freak. That’s Tom Cruise alright!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      He looks insane. Oh and out of his gourd.

    • Frodis73

      He does look “off”. Especially all the fillers or surgery or whatever in Xenu’s name he’s done to try and look 25 again. It ain’t going to happen Tommy Girl. You are 50something now, deal with it you sicko.

      • SP Wogsy

        A lot of “plump” going on there.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        He might have “fixed” his face, but have a look at the old man hands.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        I saw the trailer for his last movie in a theater and on the big screen he looked very haggard in close-ups. Almost immediately after that, I noticed that his face in photos was all puffed up with chipmunk cheeks. It looked really bad but it has begun to settle in somewhat. He’s been visiting the Drs. in between movies for fillers and I don’t know what all, trying to look younger.

        • SP Wogsy

          I think older men with wrinkles are hot. Like you might as well age gracefully. The filler look is not attractive at all.

          ETA: I noticed that came out wrong. I do not like older men. I’m just saying older men look better with wrinkles. Okay nevermind.

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            I get it, think Paul Newman

            • Kay

              I met Paul Newman about 20 years ago through a mutual friend…..wow. That is one actor that was NOT disappointing in person…so, so, SO handsome. He looked great his whole life, and without any surgery, fillers, or nonsense.

    • SP Wogsy

      You know you are getting old when TC starts to look old.

    • Missionary Kid

      In the first picture, the first thing that came to mind is Pippi Longstocking.

    • May_West

      His shirt sticks out on the right side, but is absent on the left side. Odd.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Yeah, and look at the cuffs! Even the pants’ length looks uneven. Those stripes make him look even shorter. It’s like he just grabbed a suit & dressed on the way to the show. LOL

        • Missionary Kid

          Blame the lifts in his shoes.

        • Chee Chalker

          Yea it looks like a.wedding rental tux

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Well, according to the Star & the Daily Mail… LOL

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Or pants from a marching band uniform.

            • Chee Chalker

              Exactly!!

        • Frodis73

          You are so right; it’s the stripes that are ruining the whole thing.

    • Gon

      It is my impression as a person in the audience that there is not a harder working actor in mainstream Hollywood then Tom Cruise. This guy appears to give whatever he does his all and I have never heard anyone say he was anything but great to work with. His work ethic totally inspires me.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Well, I think he is a piece of shit. Everyone I know does too.

      • Dave In Ajax

        you must be easy to shop for

        • Gon

          Why do you say that? I am not.

          • Eclipse-girl

            . . .

        • Frodis73

          Snickersnort.

      • Frodis73

        So damn what? He has SLAVES!!!!!! Get that? Slaves….in 2015 America. He’s a scumbag lunatic.

        • Gon

          Slavery is illegal.

          “scumbag lunatic.” we see what we are is my opinion on these kinds of insults.

          • Frodis73

            Yes it is. It is morally repugnant too. Yet he still has ’em. The whole damn church has them…it’s called the Sea Org.

            • Gon

              You can say they have magic dragons but that does not make it true. If they had slaves, actual slaves, they would be in jail. Ariel Castro had slaves and was arrested and killed himself. THAT is slavery and he got what he deserved.

            • Eclipse-girl

              . . .f5

            • daytoncapri

              Gon…are you serious? Good god, get a clue.

            • Frodis73

              Ah, he was only arrested because those women had the courage to finally break free of him. You should read the two books put out by them…as a sci you will find a lot to relate to.

            • Frodis73

              Sorry, I was interuppted by the US Marshals! They have been tying to locate this guy that murdered his girlfriend about 30 miles from here. He has family in the area and has been spotted.
              Anyway, back to the SO. If you don’t see that as slavery, I can’t help you. It is. When COB is arrested maybe then you will believe. Probably not though. How the cognitive disonance doesn’t drive you mad is a mystery to me. Listen to LRH: Look, don’t listen. Go read his writings…DM is doing everything off policy. Start there.

          • Eclipse-girl

            f5…

            • Eclipse-girl

              Gon edited the comment

          • Veronica

            Slavery is illegal and therefore a crime.

            http://www.state.gov/j/tip/what/

          • AintMizBahavin

            well since you’re so intelligent why dont you explain to us dont knowers exactly why you’re made to live on site in one of the many empty orgs your church has ? why dont you explain how davey is living in luxury while the rest of you live in rat infested bunk rooms?eating beans and rice while he eats exotic imported food? why dont you explain why you have to pay triple digit thousands of dollars to be educated in how to live a slaves life? then explain why the church harasses, stalks , and terrorizes those who wish to leave? and after all that explain to me why a so called church needs to know your deepest, darkest secrets ? how does that help you in your so called spiritual journey? and why from 1950 to 2015 you havent managed to clear out anything except sci bots bank accounts and ruin their family lives?

            if you can clearly explain all of that then i might try to find some respect for you.

      • Eclipse-girl

        . . . f5

        • Gon

          Somebody give a medal to this brave AMAZING courageous soldier for that screen capture. You are the GI Jane of the Bunker. Love your efforts to save the people here from the villainous deleter bandit!!!

          • Frodis73

            Yes, she is. She’s a troll buster. Just in case you decide to delete your account we have a record.

            • AintMizBahavin

              werk him/her/daveybot Frodis the only thing i see is that who or whatever it is their parents wasted a ton of money trying to educate them. you can’t learn humanity but you sure can learn sci bot

            • Eclipse-girl

              you are too kind.

          • Eclipse-girl

            ..

            • Eclipse-girl

              yet another edited comment

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              You are brave, amazing and courageous “solder.” You are the stuff that holds these tedious thread derails together.

              Thank you!

            • Eclipse-girl

              Most people did what I requested which is reply to the screen grab so it stays in order, or just ignore person

          • studentsfirst

            Gon – why do scientologists curse so much, and are so in your face aggressive? They do. I’ll be a mtg next week with a couple who happen to belong to this cult, and I dread it. She curses like a sailor, and he sits there rather meek. This is a business, mind you, and their previous behavior/language shocked everyone. But now I understand. Reading these examples is very enlightening for me.

            • Gon

              “Gon – why do scientologists curse so much, and are so in your face aggressive?”

              Why does anybody? I don’t know…because they miss their teddy bear?

            • Eclipse-girl

              .. .

            • studentsfirst

              Hi Eclipse-girl – This is my reply to Gon by way of your screenshot. His/Her post disappeared while I was typing.

              No Gon, this is a behavior unique to members of your cult. We’re not speaking about “anybody”. Please stay on point. You can have the last word because I’m finished. I do hope you soon begin thinking critically, and engaging in honest discussions. I

          • Ben Franklin

            you are not a bandit, just an immature adult with no integrity

            • Gon

              F.O

            • Ben Franklin

              If you are typing these comments with some OSA idiot looking over your shoulders you are in a prison but you are just too stupid or brainwashed to realize that. You are not helping one. you are just wasting your time over there acting like a fool.

            • Eclipse-girl

              . .

      • flyonthewall

        Bunker is a strange place for a Scientologist to hang out and comment. You having doubts Gon? What outpoints do you see in Scientology?

      • Eclipse-girl

        f5 . .

        • Mockingbird

          Wtf ?

      • Ben Franklin

        You must be either TC’s personal bitch, a parrot, a Ronbot, or a completely delusional being.

        • Gon

          F.O

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Probably all of the above.

      • AintMizBahavin

        thats your first lie there have been many who swore to never work with him again. but since you seem to know so much i’ll let you do the research

        • Gon

          Really? Who?

          • Eclipse-girl

            . . . f5

    • Kay

      Tommy boy must have put his tux in the dryer, either that, or he borrowed Miscavage’s.

  • A good friend of mine (never in) from High School is in Times Square tonight. He took this. Pretty empty.

    • Missionary Kid

      The propaganda is well lit.

      • Sherbet

        It’s like that old saying about people who aren’t very savvy: The lights are on, but nobody’s home.

  • Frodis73

    Badge of honor for me! I was messing around on twitter and I have now been blocked by Elena Cardone and Jim Meikelson (whatever his name is). I have never even tweeted him. They are such chicken sh*t babies. Lol.

    • SP Wogsy

      Congrats!! You have achieved the Blocked SP Twitter Meritnious Status!!!

    • Gon

      You want a badge for trolling, harassing and bullying people on line that you do not know from Adam and you have never met in person? This is the world the bunker is promoting?

      • Eclipse-girl

        ….

        • Eclipse-girl

          first admitted delete that I am aware of

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            I do not believe this troll is a clam. Clams never use “BS” when “bullsh*t will do. This is true.

            • Eclipse-girl

              The person will not answer questions
              The person will delete their account within an hour or so and then the comments will be gone.
              I find that the behavior of a coward.

              It is easier to document and refuse to engage,

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yep. Troll behaves trollishly.

      • Veronica

        If “messing around on twitter” means “trolling, harassing and bullying people on line(sic).” then I guess that would mean I too am a troll who harrasses and bullies people online. I never realized.

      • Frodis73

        If you read my post it says that I have never even sent a tweet to that guy. No I wasn’t tweeting anybody, I was reading tweets and noticed I had been blocked by a bunch of sci’s that I have never even talked to. That is because your church tells them to block any account that is SP.

        • Gon

          My bad. Just smack me, I deserve it.

          • Ben Franklin

            You are wasting your productive years. You will realize that once you find yourself tossed on the RPF and bankrupt. CoS does not give a crap about your or anyone else. It is just a money making scheme. Always about the money. Why do you think the church does not want you to read anything critical?

          • Eclipse-girl

            . .

        • Sherbet

          Oh, come on, Frodis. Admit that the Bunker promotes trolling, harassing and bullying people on line. That’s the only reason the Bunker exists. True fact. Of course, the church promotes trolling, harassing and bullying people in person. Ask the Rathbuns.

          • Gon

            Actually the Bunker does promote aggressive ugly behaviour trolling, harassing and bullying people on line. It does this and uses the church of scientology as an excuse for it’s own ugliness. And that’s not the reason the Bunker exists. It exists for people to talk about scientology and whatever Tony Ortega wrote in his ABOUT section.

            • Eclipse-girl

              , , f 5

            • Mockingbird

              What a bizarre comment . Pure opposite of truth . Hubbard used that tactic constantly.

            • Sherbet

              If there is bullying and nasty behavior, that is due to the people doing the posting. It’s not the charter of the Bunker to do so.

              Serious question: If you find people in the Bunker to be so offensive, why do you visit? Are you hoping to convert the offending people into being nicer?

            • Sherbet

              Yep, I did it again, dammit — against my better judgment, I conversed with “Gon.” S/he can answer my question or not. I’m going to bed. Goodnight, Bunkeroos.

            • Eclipse-girl

              sleep well my friend

            • Sherbet

              Thank you E.

            • Gon

              Sleep well

            • Eclipse-girl

              . .

    • Chee Chalker

      Congrats! That is a badge of honor!

  • SP Wogsy

    Okay guys, I am totally drunk off chocolate chip cookies and milk. I hope the Bunkerhood troll stays a little longer. Maybe he or she will learn a thing or two. Night.

    • Frodis73

      Don’t hold your breath! Trolls reading comprehension skills are lacking.

    • Robert Hammond

      Love this violin medley. Les Miserables is one of my all-time favorites.

      • SP Wogsy

        It is mine too after The Phantom of the Opera. The “castle on the cloud” portion is my favorite. I recently saw her in concert, and she is amazing. I left feeling on cloud 9 for days after. She is such a talent. I posted another video of her last night for the Sea Org sleeping beauties. You should check it out. The theme of the video is “waking up”. F5 for concert pic

  • Eclipse-girl

    Since a certain person has returned, I would advise you to ignore the person completely .
    If you can’t ignore the person wait until screen grabs are done (or do them yourself) and then reply to the screen grab to make it easier for readers

    • Chee Chalker

      I agree….while it is fun to point out the obvious to those poor folks, we are all actually participating in their little game, which is a win for them.
      Besides, its always the same arguments with those people.
      Maybe if we ignore them they will ramp up their comm cycle with us! Then we can have some fun!

    • Frodis73

      Yeah, I’m done. It’s like talking to a wall.
      Gross. Jimmy Fallon is talking about TC. They are going to do a lip synch battle. How cute. NOT. Katie Holmes is on tonight. Wonder if he will say anything to her? Doubt it, but one can hope.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Unless Tom is going on the show to do a touch assist that will miraculously heal Jimmy’s finger, I ain’t watching.

        • Frodis73

          Now that I would watch!

      • Cece

        Yes, hope! Go Katie. If she want’s to talk ~ well I trust Jimmy will let her 🙂 Even cry if she wants 🙂

    • Gon

      I am sometimes sorry for my behaviour. I don’t hate the Bunker as it may look, but I do get frustrated and come here to vent. I was watching Jerry Maguire earlier and the scene in where he’s fired in the office and he yells “Who’s coming with me?!” This scene effects me emotionally and I wonder if I was in Top Man’s place I don’t know if anyone would follow me. I get a sense of inadequatecy about my people skills and my leadership capabilities. I am sorry.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Talk to the screen grab:

        • aaah Gon, Cruise’s talking rectum

        • Eclipse-girl

          thanks

        • daytoncapri

          Ok Gon. Once upon a time I would police a different forum for unfair or crude posts. If that is what you really about, then you know it is a thankless task. I don’t do much of that these days. If you have been reading John Atack’s writings, then you have read that it even backfires…it reinforces the very behavior that is challenged. If you are hoping for a better dialogue AND, as you claim, are actually against Scientology, then build upon the thoughtful posts and ignore the rest. Heck, why not do that even if you neutral or pro-scientology. A thoughtful post is a good start. I was called troll in the beginning, so I will entertain the concept that you are not. Now, stop deleting your posts, ok?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I’ve never had a “certain person” type respond to a comment of mine before. I feel like I need to take a “Silkwood” shower. Yick!

    • Cece

      Oh so we don’t respond to a deleted post? Eclipse-girl, thank you for keeping it calm here. Got enough going on in my head. “Oh how did I pull THAT in?” Where/when did my stats start going down? Oh shittttt – I’m not there anymore. Don’t have to turn in stats at 2p and don’t have to answer up to any of those mind questions you manage us to conjure from a reactive mind we each created. Clever fella that guy. Stay far away. Study other’s travels in this case. Thank you Eclipse for helping me stay somewhat on-topic 🙂

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The Bunker is good that way. Congrats on your serenity gain.

        • Cece

          🙂

    • Susan_Qbird_Poche

      I just got home. Moar Gon. geez. Think I’ll hit that best button – Gon ain’t never there. Hello E~girl.

      • Eclipse-girl

        HI

        (((HUGS)))

        lots of good stuff today.

  • Sydjazz

    scion watching used to be funny. now it’s just depressing. how is this still a thing?

    • Robert Hammond
      • Missionary Kid

        Synanon used to be the second largest land owner in Santa Monica, after General Telephone, which had operating facilities and offices there. Both are gone now.

        General Telephone disappeared in mergers and acquisitions in a changing telecommunications market, and Synanon imploded after becoming more and more cult-like.

        The article captures Synanon quite well.

  • Gon

    I just really admire Tom Cruise. I’ve never thought that’s so wrong before. Yet the Bunker treats him like he’s a walking crabs infestation. Why do you feel this way? My name for him is Top Man. It is a mashing of Top Gun and Rain Man, two of the top two best Top Man movies. This is not so wrong.

    • SP Wogsy

      I used to feel the same way even after I left the CO$ Gon. Tom Cruise is NOT a good person. I invite you to read Tony’s article that was written about him yesterday. Here is the link:

      http://tonyortega.org/2015/07/22/how-scientology-is-tom-cruise-how-he-put-ethics-ruthlessly-in-to-his-own-family/

    • Eclipse-girl

      just reply to the screen shot or ignore

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hi, E-girl! Just got back from a lovely dinner with Mrs. D. Hope all is well with you!

        • Eclipse-girl

          I have been having some fun with Gon doing screen grabs.
          I do not know if they have left

          I hope you had a nice time with Mrs D.

          • Midwest Sky

            Hello EG! I don’t post often but would appreciate your review of my comment above. I respect your as well as many other regular commenters here. Thanks for the screen shots! You and Observer are awesome

            • Eclipse-girl

              Obs IS AWESOME

              i will check the comments.
              Very nice avatar.

        • Midwest Sky

          Hello DDD. I don’t post often but would appreciate your review of my comment above. I respect your as well as many other regular commenters here. I hope you will not be offended if I reach out to others

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Offended? Here? Perish the thought!

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Watch “Going Clear” and you will realize that your assessment of Tom Cruise is horribly off the mark.

      • Robert Hammond

        I think this article about Tom Cruise is worth reading: https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/then-there-is-me-tom-cruise/

        • Midwest Sky

          Hello RH. I don’t post often but would appreciate your review of my comment above. I respect your as well as many other regular commenters here.

      • jazzlover

        Honestly, the fact that this needs to be explained to you either signifies a stunning ignorance or a downright heartlessness on your part. Neither one can nor should be tolerated in a civilized society.

        Acting skills aside, Cruise’s complacency AND participation in the face of duplicitous and abusive behavior which cuts to the very core of human rights is what makes him less than zero. Here we are, 70 years after the fact, and Nazis are still rightfully being hunted and convicted for their crimes. While he’s not the equivalent of a serial murderer like Hitler, he is a much more recent example of someone who gives credence to an organization hiding behind religion which commits crimes which are no more forgivable than those which occurred during the Holocaust. All bad is treated the same way. There are no degrees of blights on humanity.

        Clear?

      • Frodis73

        Ok, last time, but I’ll bite. When he first hit the scene, I didn’t care for him because he was in stuff like Top Gun and came off as a pretty boy. With the exception of The Outsiders, he wasn’t really in my kind of movie. He was on all those teen mags and came across as the flavor of the month. Well, along comes Born on the 4th of July. I went ahead and saw it because I loved the book so much, but I was really unsure of Tom. He blew me away! I was shocked. I remember thinking maybe there is more to this guy then just a pretty face. So much so, that when they announced him for Lestat in Interview w/ a Vampire that I was in a small minority that thought he would actually pull it off. He did! He was damn good in that movie and I still like that movie.

        Again, it seemed he was not just another pretty boy and maybe he would go somewhere. Around that time he did some great parts (The Firm, A Few Good Men, Jerry Maguire). Keep in mind his involvement with the cult was at a minimum (from what I understand anyway) as he was totally in love and living his life with Nicole and the kids. Something happened between them and they had issues. The church jumped in and fed his fears and paranoia and ruined his marriage and the two kids. After they split he turned into Mr. Scientology and his acting has suffered for it. Sci shuts down your emotions. Actors need to be in touch with their emotions and he is not. He’s done a few good ones, but he is just playing the same part over and over-the stoic action hero. Roles with little to no range…he has stagnated as the cult has turned him into a Ronbot. After 2005 he just hasn’t done anything new with the exception of Magnolia and that cameo in Tropic Thunder (that was very good from the clips I have seen on YT).
        I sincerely believe that if he had not gotten involved in the church that he would be a different type of movie star. He showed flashes of real talent in some of those early movies and it is a shame he didn’t get to explore that. Instead we get the same character again and again. Not to mention the bragging about scientology and jumping on couches and all that…the public for the most part was like WTH happened to TC?
        He worships Miscavige…a man who gets off on seeing people suffer. Too many stories are out there about DM and his violent attacks. Then there are the stories about Tom imitating this man. This makes him weak. Let’s not forget the odd things…like taking DM on his honeymoon. Turning a blind eye while his BFF vanishes his wife. Seriously? I know TC is not the sharpest knife in the drawer, but c’mon!
        For a great comparison please watch this very early interview of TC. He’s just hitting it big and he’s very shy and unpolished, but you can see he has that “it” factor. He also shows his emotions and acts like a real human being. Where is *this* TC? It’s buried under thousands of hours of auditing, TR’s and listening to the crazy ramblings of a man who was so messed up in the end he wanted to electrocute himself to rid himself of his BT’s. Everything that was good about TC has been buried under years of scientology teachings.
        Lastly, this guy is worth millions. He does NOT need to take advantage of SO slaves to clean his house, trick out his toys, etc. He is treated like a god by that church…sci *and* celebrity has taught him that he is special and deserves it. He treats anybody underneath him like crap. Not on movie sets mind you-he is not in control of that environment enough…word would get out so he cannot treat wogs like that.
        He has turned into a weak person that cannot think for himself at all. He kicked his 13 yr old niece out of the house for 2 years. Separated her from her mom when she needed her most and sent her across the country to live with strangers. Left her alone…do you remember 13? Do you get how cruel that is? What kind of person does that? How does that punishment in anyway fit the crime of kissing a boy? That is what kids that age do. She kisses a boy and is banished for 2 yrs at 13 yet he has NO problem watching DM play grab ass with a woman that is NOT his wife. To add to that, think about this-he has security cams all over the house to spy on everyone in that house. Again, what kind of person does that? Scientology has totally changed him and has enhanced his flaws in such a way that they are in the extreme.
        Again, watch this video before he got sucked in…he is so different…and not just because he’s older. This person is gone and now he is LRH jr.
        ps-This is the most time I have devoted to TC in my life! LOL.
        ps-I didn’t even mention his other daughter Suri. He has basically left her too! So much for scientology and their strong family bonds. Until they do or say something to upset you too much…then POOF! it’s like you don’t exist anymore. He’s not winning any Husband or Daddy of the Year Awards that’s for sure. I guess that’s ok…he has that big shiny Freedom medal from Dave. I hope it keeps him warm at night and cheers him up when he’s sad. I bet Suri would do a better job tho, just a hunch.
        Screw him…he lost his humanity years ago.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O0uy8oiRSI8

  • David E Love

    Mr. Mission Impossible should marry himself – they would make a cute couple.

  • EmmaDaoust

    MI5: Rug Nation
    Starring Donald Trump

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    Has Tony O stopped in today? I looked extensively and not find any comment. good night all, off to bed in a minute. Boy the trolls have been really busy.

  • JMasiulewicz

    Yes that was a masterful all-out parody of $cilogy on the season finale of “It’s Always Sunny in Philadelphia”, complete with E-meter, “Xelu”, free org labor, and a constant stream of “newly-discovered” and ever-changing tech.

    • can you get the name and series number of the episode so I can get it….. ahem,…. elsewhere?

  • aquaclara

    Katie Holmes is on Jimmy Fallon, promoting her new role on a Showtime program. The clip was good, and she was funny.

    So now Ton Cruise is pretty much out premium channel options, lest he accidentally see Going Clear on HBO or her show on Showtime.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Then he’d better throw in a few more million $$ to get that Scientology Channel up and running ASAP. Wasn’t that supposed to open in June?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I just watched it and she has strange teeth and had some work done. I wasn’t impressed and I love the show, Ray Donovan.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Reality check.

    While those jolly Scientologists are conducting themselves in the manner described, rather than spreading “Islands of Sanity,” there has been another theater shooting. This one is in Louisiana.

    http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/23/us/louisiana-theater-shooting/

    • EmmaDaoust

      Horrible

    • Frodis73

      This is so upsetting. Any Aussies or Brits want to adopt me? I’m great with kids and pets and will do windows.
      Seriously though, these thing depress me horribly.

  • Sydjazz

    heyy elfmans not telepathic and bad memory? are they even clear?

  • Midwest Sky

    Hello bunkeroos! Have followed Mr. Ortega and the incredible community he has created for a long time. You know what I mean…an environment where different opinions/experiences are treated with respect, humor, courtesy and documentation. I rarely comment because you folks are damn smart! There are times I have a question and its answered in a few minutes. Just sitting here wondering what your thoughts on troll Gon? In my world I don’t think he is a Scientologist. He’s seems to be more “outside the box” of confront and shatter then most OSA trolls. I’m wondering if he is a paid PR consultant given his appearance right before TC redundant movie premiere. My bias, this is my hope bc it’s means that Tony’s reporting and this group’s sharing has scared the crap out of the major movie studios and that TC was given the mandate to control his ludicrous believes. That cost a shitload. It give me hope that he will experience disconnection from the movie industry. And that will affect TC more than losing his Suri. All thoughts, comments are welcome, including Gon.

    • Kay

      Hi Midwest Sky, nice to meet you. I just barely logged on so I missed the “Gon” show. He was lurking her yesterday also. I’m sure a lot of people here will give you their thoughts on him. He’s a troll for sure…I just don’t know from whence he hails.

      • Midwest Sky

        Hey, Kay, nice to meet you too. I have enjoyed your comments. As I stated I don’t comment often but I’m just fed up tonight. This troll seems different to me. I may be wrong and that’s ok with me. I’m just seeing a professional PR strategy here…the timing, creating creadiblity by using normal troll patterns and then being more assertive with responses. I’m probably paranoid. But I hope I’m right bc it means TC is scared.

        • Kay

          Hey I love hearing various possibilities on any subject !! We have been getting much more troll activity than usual…that’s for sure. They are very annoying. Now that you have finally logged in, don’t be a stranger ! It winds down around now because lots of people are on the east coast and have gone beddy-bye. It’s really busy during the days and into the evenings, especially on weekends.

          • Midwest Sky

            Kay, thank you! I’m a night owl. Have been watching the trolls for 4 years and never responded before. This one I had too. I believe that the Bunker community and our properitor needs a standing ovation to attract this kind of troll.

            • Eclipse-girl

              how about this instead?

            • Midwest Sky

              It’s perfect!

            • daisy

              If I can figure out how to do it, I would like to use this as my avatar. Thanks for your instruction but I still can not use the shift button.

            • Eclipse-girl

              i am sorry that I was no help

    • Eclipse-girl

      there are some who agree with your assessment that Gon is not a scientologist.

      Tonight when they accused the Bunker of trolling / harassing others., it was i error.
      Tony O does not advocate any of us to do that.
      If we as individuals go to various places be it Radar Online or Back nComm (the South African indie site) we know the rules of their website sand abide them.

      Gon’s opinion appears to be that we only look for the negative in scientology.
      But Gon doesn’t present any evidence of positive aspects of scientology.
      If the person wants a debate, they need to bring the evidence to support their positions.

      Perhaps you are correct that this is some really weird PR activity.
      I do not know much about “the biz” and the actions they would take.
      If that is true, it makes these appearance extremely humorous.

      My way to disconnect Tom from film is to boycott the films.
      I think more and more people are doing that and it hurts Tom C in the US.

      It is a shame because Emily Blunt (from Oblivion) and Simon Pegg and others (from the MI franchise ) are people I like to see on screen

      • Gon

        Hi Super screen grabber. Please tell me where I once said or suggested:

        “Gon’s opinion appears to be that we only look for the negative in scientology.”

        I did not and you know I did not. You are a liar. A bare faced liar if you will.

        • Eclipse-girl

          . ..

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            You horrible “lair.” Holding the nassy, nassy troll to its own words.

            • Eclipse-girl

              i know. i can be so mean 😉

            • Frodis73

              Know, you no you can be so mean. 😀 You damn lair!

        • Kay

          Just…go away. You are boring us all.

      • Midwest Sky

        Thank you EG for your thoughts and I agree. This is my favorite for reasons you stated. I been in and out all day…working just gets in the way. It’s just my opinion that when corporation starts dictating which journalists can attend press conferences, (thank you Mr. O) there is a major PR problem. My guard comes up. A great deal of info has been exposed as you know…Going Clear, Mr. O blog and book, SNL, Leah, Katie, couch incident etc. I’m in the “biz” but cannot provide concrete documentation just circumstantial. Social media is so important in today’s world there is no doubt (in my mind) the movie studio/TC included this site in their promotion strategy. I am ok with being wrong in my opinion bc I’m having my own happy dance hoping my thoughts are correct.

        • Eclipse-girl

          You should post more often.
          Others are also in the biz and their insights are very useful.
          I am glad you shared your speculation 😉

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Gon is depressingly familiar, and a rather obvious CoS troll. Whether he/she works directly under supervision or not is anybody’s guess.

      • Midwest Sky

        Thank you for your response and I agree it’s any one guess. Just find it interesting Gon responding so quickly and specially.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Quickly, yes. “Specially” is a matter of opinion…!

          • Midwest Sky

            Oh my, I’m not great at typing or proofreading. I appreciate your knowledge of grammar and spelling! If I knew how to edit I would correct specially to specifically. Thank you for your patience. Didn’t realize you guys have been dealing with this one for awhile! Goodnight

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Editing on Disqus is easy. Just use the “Edit” button at the bottom of the post.

              I didn’t realize this was a typo. I was just being, you know, a smart aleck.

              Nighters!

            • Midwest Sky

              Thank you DDD

      • Missionary Kid

        This is what Gon wrote.
        Gon ->Midwest Sky 3 hours ago

        “Troll” is what anyone on the internet calls another person who does not agree with them just so. Not disagreement like, I say ‘TC is a jerk’ and you say ‘he is a goof’, that is agreement, more along the lines of you say ‘he is evil’ and I say he is ‘just a normal person, and a great hard working actor’.

        And what pray tell, possible gain is there for a “paid PR consultant” to post opinions in a small group like this? Please tell me what is the gain for TC? It is a preposterous self important self serving wish or fantasy you or the Bunker might have that the world cares about the bunker’s activities here and that “TC is scared” or that this place matters outside this place.

        Go on IMDB on any Tom Cruise movie and watch “Bunkaroos” pull their Bunker talk there, they are chased out of the thread.”
        ____________________________________________________________
        Let’s start at the beginning. From Wikipedia:

        In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topic messages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the
        deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.[3]

        Note how Gon redefines Troll for his own purposes. That’s only a start. That’s how LRH operated. If you accept thisTroll’s redefinition of a term, they seem logical. The problem is, they’re not talking about the common definition of Troll.

        As a matter of fact, Gon isacting in exactly the way that Wikipedia defines a Troll.

    • Robert Hammond

      Hi Midwest Sky. Thanks for sharing your thoughts. Interesting speculation. I don’t have any opinion on any specific trolls, OSA, paid PR consultants, narcissists, or others. Good thing about the internet is that there are many places to go and many opinions. The Bunker seems to be a place where anyone can come and share their thoughts, but it would be silly not to know that this is a sight about exposing Scientology. I have plenty of time for fun and honest discussions, but don’t want to was much energy on arguing with people who only seem to want to promote Scientology or try to force false moral equivalents.

      Like coming to a basketball game wearing a hockey mask and cleats then calling everybody idiots for loving basketball. What’s the point? That’s how Gon and some of the recent trolls act. This video gives a good overview: (refresh) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hrY7OySPkgk

      As for Tom Cruise, I’ve enjoyed many of his movies. Think he’s a hard worker. Don’t like the way he promotes a dangerous abusive cult and mistreats people. See also: https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2012/10/14/then-there-is-me-tom-cruise/

    • Gon

      “Troll” is what anyone on the internet calls another person who does not agree with them just so. Not disagreement like, I say ‘TC is a jerk’ and you say ‘he is a goof’, that is agreement, more along the lines of you say ‘he is evil’ and I say he is ‘just a normal person, and a great hard working actor’.

      And whatpossible gain is there for a “paid PR consultant” to post opinions in a small group like this? Please tell me what is the gain for TC? It is a preposterous self important self serving wish or fantasy you or the Bunker might have that the world cares about the bunker’s activities here and that “TC is scared” or that this place matters outside this place.

      Go on IMDB on any Tom Cruise movie and watch “Bunkaroos” pull their Bunker talk there, they are chased out of the thread.

      • Eclipse-girl

        for posterity

        • Robert Hammond

          Wikipedia definition of troll:

          “In Internet slang, a troll (/ˈtroʊl/, /ˈtrɒl/) is a person who sows discord on the Internet by starting arguments or upsetting people, by posting inflammatory,[1] extraneous, or off-topicmessages in an online community (such as a newsgroup, forum, chat room, or blog) with the deliberate intent of provoking readers into an emotional response[2] or of otherwise disrupting normal on-topic discussion.”

          https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Talk to the screen grab:

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Here is a prime example of what I mean by depressing.

          The definition of “troll” in this context has been explained here before, yet this one still keeps missing it. Many people here disagree, and they are not called trolls. When a troll comes in here, they are called a troll.

          And this is not a “small group.” The Underground Bunker gets far, far more hits daily than the official site of the Church of Scientology. granted, that’s a pretty low bar. But there is good reason for Scientology to keep a close watch on what goes on here, and even send people to try and derail the discussion.

          (And I would defy anyone to chase Espi or the Media Lush out of any thread, anywhere.)

          • Robert Hammond

            Good points 3D. I’ve seen thousands of people posting on this site with all kinds of opinions on a variety of subjects. Only a handful seem to fit the classic “troll” description. They all seem to be either the same person or controlled by the same handler because the “tech” is always the same lame game:

            Come in with a new account.
            Post some off the wall analogy that compares the Bunker to Scientology.
            Don’t respond to any direct questions.
            Then delete account within about an hour.
            Rinse. Repeat. Blah, blah, blah..

        • flyonthewall

          Gon already deleted the account he posted under a few hrs ago and this is a brand new one. He sure goes through a lot of trouble to troll

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            This has been going on the last couple of days. Socks, too.

            There’s something sticking in the craw of Scientology.

      • Kay

        Oh, whatever !

      • Midwest Sky

        Thank you for the confirmation. “Thous protest to much”. Goodnight Gon and I understand we all need a paycheck.

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        “And what pray tell, possible gain is there for Gon to post opinions in a small group like this? Please tell me what is the gain for Gon? It is a preposterous self important self serving wish or fantasy Gon might have that the world cares about the his/her activities here.”
        Fifu.

        • Susan_Qbird_Poche

          Hello Sir!

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Good evening Ms. Qbird-Poche, how do you do?

            • Susan_Qbird_Poche

              good. good ’nuff!

      • Kay

        Gon…go away

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Your wish will be fulfilled shortly.

          Pity, as I usually like to try and at least get a few human words in edgewise. This one is pointless. But, here goes:

          Your doubts are valid.

          The stats are all wrong.

          Freeloader Debt is illegal.

          The way out… is the way out.

          Please come back here when you are free. We will be happy to welcome you.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          And *POOF* the troll is gone, again. First, though, it edited without acknowledging, to leave the impression that it was being all reasonable and logical. That’s why we screen grab. Exposes the lies of the T R O L L.

          Here are the screen grabs for comparison, and the comment that could not be posted because it has slunk away again.

          Sad little troll is sad.

      • Cedilla

        Gon, Hey, is that you J3?

        • Eclipse-girl

          I sincerely doubt it.
          I know J3 has his socks.
          J3 was also attempting to converse with Gon when Gon accused J3 of using and Ad hominem when J3 did asked him a question about his moniker

          • Cedilla

            Thanks.

    • TexasBroad

      I missed most of the “Gon” show also and thanks to those who screengrab. If true, it is more annoying if the troll is a paid PR consultant than if he/she is an OSA or a doing-amends troll. I always have so much hope for the trolls —no matter how abrasive or passive aggressive. I think it is better that they are here (or similar places) than NOT on the internet at all. The comments made tell me they are reading SOME content at least. Who knows what private thoughts they wrangle with later.

      • Midwest Sky

        Hello TB! Thank you for your thoughts. I lived in Texas most of my life and still call it home. Agree with you about having hope and patience for trolls. We all get lost at times and need someone/something to help us see through the mud and recover. I have been in and out last few days. This is the first troll I have responded too. It’s a gut thing. It’s one thing to be “getting your stats up” vs being paid $50/hr. Think it’s bc of Corporate media tour for TC new film made me get my guard up. Social media is soo important today’s world and Mr.Ortega and the Bunker community keeps the “heat” on, even if not given credit. I gather that many are tired of him (after reading comments) and I understand. Did not mean to kept it going.

        • TexasBroad

          Glad that you stepped in Midwest Sky. Glad for your comment –The trolls will come and they will go, either way.

  • Susan_Qbird_Poche

    Gon trolls hard. The bunker responds, always.
    Gon loves the bunker, people!
    Who gets who?

    https://youtu.be/OdnHGm5VGwM

    • Eclipse-girl

      i am rather glad of the outcome

      • Susan_Qbird_Poche

        It is always interesting E… but ya gotta know that it is only a silly game for this one. He is a real piece of work. The attention he gets is what makes him drool. That should be clear by now. I saw Simi this a.m. not reply to him (yes to others) and he slunk away to find another. He reminds me very much of Lifter1968 (minus the nastiness of course). just my thoughts on it.
        Is it possible for no one to respond at all to him? Pretty soon it will be so because everyone will have his number checked, eh?!

        • Eclipse-girl

          I try to advise with ignore tech, but I understand others wanting to defend or debate.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Or speak of the blot in the third person.

            • Eclipse-girl

              will you be on for a few more hours?
              So we need a night patrol?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I hope I get to bed soon. But that seems unlikely.

          • Robert Hammond

            Yeah. I’m done. Said all I needed. Not worth responding to anymore. Hope he keeps reading the Bunker. Maybe he’ll learn something.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Hope springs eternal.

            • Susan_Qbird_Poche

              not his game to learn anything. Gon knows all he needs to know.

            • Robert Hammond

              “Do not try to educate the wise.” ~ George Fox

            • Eclipse-girl

              the wise will be willing to learn from others

        • Frodis73

          Lifter1968! We have not heard from him in awhile huh? I can’t remember the last time he was poking around. Thankfully.

  • Kay

    Nuts, I was trying to copy and paste an article with pictures about TC’s new assistant who is has an unbelievably close resemblance to Katie Holmes…I thought it WAS Katie Holmes at first. She’s 22 and it’s rumored that she’s a Scion. I wish I could have gotten that to work. dang. Well maybe someone else posted it already.

    • Eclipse-girl

      The assistant does look extremely similar to Katie.
      I would want to have the dox that show the woman is already into scientology.

      I would want to educate her about Tom;s behavior toward women

      • Kay

        Agreed…I don’t know if the rumor about her being a scientologist is true or just a PR thing. If she is, I agree, someone needs to do an intervention about Mr. Cruiser’s behavior towards women, AND his children AND his niece….

        • Eclipse-girl

          notice they are all females. Connor was allowed to stay after throwing a rock at his aunt and cuasng a gash that needed stitches.

          • Frodis73

            Yea, that was a bit disturbing. He does something violent that could have seriously hurt/killed somebody and nothing happens. TC is a jackass.

          • SarahDB

            So his niece gets banished from the family for kissing a guy, and Connor is violent and nothing happens to him…what does that say about his double standards??

        • Tracy Schmitz

          i’m pretty sure she is a cultie.. EVERY SINGLE production assistant that cruise has EVER had has either either been a cultie, a family member or both….

    • Intergalactic Walrus
      • Kay

        THANKS !! That’s not the one I found, but the story is essentially the same and some of the pictures are the same ones I saw. Doesn’t that sorta give you the willies???? He’s 31 years older than her…ewwww

        • Todd Tomorrow

          If she’s smart she’ll play the role and bail with a fat check.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Need something to make me smile.

    TC in Vienna: guest judge, or surprise contestant?

    (refresh)

    • Ella Raitch

      At first glance I thought that was the time he nearly got run over by a London bus. Good thing he does his won stunts. He would have been road kill.

  • Robert Hammond

    People have “a right” to flip off people and curse them out. People have “a right” to go to basketball games wearing a hockey mask and tell everybody how stupid they are for liking basketball. People have a right to come on to a blog exposing Scientology and call everybody on the site cult members then run off like scared little girls and delete their accounts.

    You can go on Oprah’s show and tell her how you think women and black people are inferior. But don’t think you won’t get a harsh response.

    Internet courtesy is not coming on to sites and posting inflammatory remarks, refusing to directly answer questions, then deleting your account. You have the right to play that game if you want.

    It’s not about rights. It’s about rudeness. You have a right to be rude. Doesn’t mean you’ll always be treated like a friend. You might be treated like this: (refresh)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FMEe7JqBgvg

  • ReallyMGM

    OT: I’ve had day from hell. Spouse got caught in flash flood in his sports car and the motor is trashed. Hopefully it won’t be totaled. I have thrown quite a few F bombs tonight over it!

    • Eclipse-girl

      is the spouse safe?
      I understand why you would be swearing but if the person is safe, I am glad.

      • ReallyMGM

        Oh yes, he’s safe! Thank goodness. :))

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      So sorry to hear that.

    • Frodis73

      Oh wow. I’m sorry to hear that. Those flash floods are sneaky as hell! Glad the hubby is safe though. Def worth throwing a few F bombs around too.

    • Robert Eckert

      Oh fuck, sorry to hear that.

  • Kay

    Gnite everyone…..I’m sleepy. Sorry I will miss the 2nd part of the “Gon” show tonight.

    • Midwest Sky

      Nite Kay. Sleep well!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Nighters!

    • Eclipse-girl

      sleep tight

    • Robert Hammond

      It’ all a rerun from last season. Nothing worth watching again. I’m done too. G’nite Kay. ; ^)

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Okay, how many gallons of this stuff are we gonna need?
    (Refresh)
    https://lucyoccupy.files.wordpress.com/2013/06/trolls-be-gone.jpg?w=490&h=504

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Just a spray bottle should do. A few flits and the Confront and Shatter is complete.

    • Robert Hammond

      Just a few drops for these little ones that scurry in and out so quickly. Gon girl has gone and took $$$$ with her.

      • daytoncapri

        Is Gon a girl? I missed it.

        • Susan_Qbird_Poche

          I don’t think so, but that’s my guess.

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    About 30 min ago, Gon wrote: “Go to an IMDB.COM comment section on any Tom Cruise movie and watch “Bunkaroos” pull their Bunker talk there, they are chased.”

    Good suggestion Gon. I went to Tom Cruise’s comment section at IMDB. I suggest that everyone follow Gon’s advice and do the same. It’s a nice illustration of how accurately Gon understands reality. Spoiler alert: Mr. Cruise has quite a winning reputation!

    • Graham

      Sounds intriguing. Unfortunately you have to be on Faceberk or similar to get access 🙁

      • Frodis73

        No you can sign up using an email account. I just did using my “scientology email”. 😀

        • Graham

          Thanks!

    • Robert Eckert

      So of course, a new poster has shown up there in the past few hours to start threads like “Tom Cruise is an awesome actor and seems like a nice guy”

      • Tracy Schmitz

        if you go to imdb.com look for the overwhelming number of topic threads and butt kissing by some poster using the name “the strangeler”?… serious wrong…

        • Robert Eckert

          He posted a bunch of new threads starting right after Sir Burlwood posted here.

  • Cedilla
  • Eclipse-girl

    I am off to bed, too

    If Gon or anyone else back,
    do screen grabs AND ignore

    I know ignore tech is hard and it takes lots of practice.
    But try

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Nighters!

    • 0tessa

      I think Gon is finally Gone.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Eclipse-girl

      great song

  • Missionary Kid

    A little earlier,the troll,Gon, tried an LRH trick: redefining a word to suit his own purpose. The word was “Troll.”

    Here’s the Wikipedia definition for Internet Troll. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_troll He or she fits it exactly.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X *** Friday, 24 July 2015

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,

    The week’s scores and RedX links: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-121#post-2546780
    Thursday 23rd: Slightly better than the rest of the week, it is all CAL with LA leading Sac & SFB.
    Check the Spamtrack sheet, there are a few good opportunities for complaints.

    keep the well intentioned and idealists away from co$, whack a few bait & switch ads
    : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    F5… Horse Girl by Waldemar Kazak enhanced by DodoTheLaser flickred by Aeger Primo: https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15993008467/in/album-72157642802079293/

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I have to admit this made me chuckle (refresh).

    The CO$ Vienna Celebrity Center is a real beauty. “Die Weiner Scientology” sounds about right. Here is the English translated article: “We wanted to ask you a few questions about Scientology Tom Cruise”
    http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=de&u=http://www.vice.com/alps/read/wir-wollten-scientology-ein-paar-fragen-zu-tom-cruise-stellen-647&prev=search

  • TheMirrorThetan

    I think you are all being unkind to “Gon”.
    It is plainly obvious he is a long time sufferer of Micro Penis Syndrome.
    Trolling the bunker is the only way he can get off and have some fun.
    Maybe we should do something kind for him and donate a few dollars to help them research a cure for him.
    That way there is the possibility that Gon may have a productive life one day and find something better to do with his time than being a limp ineffective troll.

    • ReallyMGM

      I thought about upvoting all off his comments…for about 5 seconds.

      • TheMirrorThetan

        Well its the thought that counts. 🙂

  • MaxSpaceman

    A great piece of work from Jeffrey.

    Thank you.

  • Tracy Schmitz

    anyone see katie holmes on the tonight show last night (thursday july 23rd)? she seems, came across as such a sweet humble fun woman.. unless this is a great “public acting job” it made me think something had to be very wrong with the husband for her to ditch him the way she did…also i noticed the crowd really clapped for her when she was introduced more befitting a “bigger” star? perhaps they the audience feel a kindred spirit and applaud what she went thru?….

  • we seem to be up and running…. I have my first small post…. it’s obviously going to be a slow process over the next few weeks due to the amount of socialising I’m obliged to do this holiday season and the fact I have to relearn a new posting system. I received massive amounts of help from http://webactivism.com and I’ll be writing about that in a future post

    …. regulars will know that I use the c word from time to time, always where appropriate (IMO)…. I think this one of those times!
    http://www.scientologybollocks.com

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Welcome back Lush. Love your site! Would Goog ever reply? Sergey Brin, is on my Google plus acct. and hasn’t responded to me since I sent him this. He only replied two other times anyway..
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MLkGbLNaaTg

      • I’d be amazed if they replied after this….. but stranger things have happened

  • EDN/laineybin

    I’ve been swamped at work and am trying to catch-up here. So many interesting things, so little time! I just spent 15 minutes watching the Elfman video – is this for real? Do they do this regularly? Why?

  • Pepper

    Does Kicking and Screaming actually have subscribers or make any money? I couldn’t listen for no more than five minutes of that podcast, it was so boring! I think the purpose of it is that Bodhi and Jenna are begging for a reality show.

  • Violet

    I’m pretty disgusted by all the media having Tom Cruise on to promote the Mission Impossible movie, and just sucking up to him as if nothing happened. I understand it’s a promotional appearance, and they can’t really grill him about Going Clear, but then why have him on at all. I would refuse to sit there and smile and interview him and promote his movie. Pretty sickening he’s, as usual, going to get off totally unscathed.