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John Sweeney Talks The Church of Fear, Which Comes Out Today

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Scientology’s “pope” a foul-mouthed, violent bully?

A new book coming out today by BBC newsman John Sweeney makes use of secret electronic communications that portray Scientology’s leader, David Miscavige, berating his underlings in texts with phrases like “You Suck!” and “Counter-Intentional Cock Sucker!” and “You Suck Cock on Hollywood Boulevard!”

Sweeney is famous for blowing up in a temper tantrum while filming his 2007 BBC Panorama special, Scientology and Me, and says he’s wanted for years to write a book about his experiences making that documentary and its followup, 2010′s The Secrets of Scientology.

Now in The Church of Fear: Inside the Weird World of Scientology, Sweeney has done just that, providing a disturbing look at the spying and harassment that he went through making those films, and the electronic communications going on between church operatives as they followed Sweeney and his crew.

Sweeney is careful to point out that the church denies that the communications are genuine, and it has also consistently denied that David Miscavige has ever been violent with his employees or that he swears like a sailor.

But in his book, Sweeney meticulously lays out the evidence that Scientology is run by a dictator who screams at his underlings and worse; about a dozen former church members have now come forward with allegations that they witnessed Miscavige pummel his junior executives, he says.

One of these was Mike Rinder, who appeared in the first film as one of the church’s “zombie-like” PR people, denying every allegation that Sweeney came up with. But after he defected in 2007, Rinder changed his tune and said he’d been lying to the BBC reporter: In fact, he estimated that he’d actually been assaulted by Miscavige about 50 times during his years as a high-level church executive.

In a gripping set of chapters, Sweeney describes what it was like to be spied on in 2007 by Rinder and his fellow church spokesman, Anne Archer’s son Tommy Davis, and reveals that Rinder and Davis were constantly in a three-way electronic conversation with David Miscavige’s “communicator,” Laurisse “Lou” Stuckenbrock. As Rinder and Davis tracked Sweeney around the country, the PR duo were constantly being berated by Stuckenbrock, who Sweeney was told merely acted as a front for Miscavige.

“Ex-members of the Church say that the role of the Communicator is a deliberately constructed cut-out. [The texts] read as if Miscavige says something, his word is recorded and transcribed and put into the third person, so there is always a measure of deniability,” Sweeney writes.

“Taken together,” he adds, the texts “paint an extraordinarily weird picture of the Church.”

There’s no doubt about that. For instance, after Sweeney interviewed actress Anne Archer — who barked at him “Do I look brainwashed to you?” — Rinder reported to his boss that she had “demolished” Sweeney. But that doesn’t seem to satisfy Stuckenbrock/Miscavige, who fires back…

“Were these ass rippings on camera?…Any other details, you Generality infested CSMF?”

Sweeney says CSMF stands for “Cock Sucking Mother Fucker.”

As he points out, it’s a bit hard to imagine the leader of a mainstream church chewing out underlings in quite the same way.

Other choice utterances from Scientology’s pope (through his communicator):

“Now answer my comm, you CICS!” (CICS = Counter-Intentional Cock Sucker, “counter-intention” being church jargon for failing to carry out Miscavige’s orders, or “intention.”)

Another actual quote, with misspellings: “You really are just sp aren’t you? I wqaited to get this crap? I can’t even believe it. You just can’t work or do can you? YS YS YS YS YS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!” (YS = You Suck. SP = suppressive person, Scientology’s notion of a hopelessly degraded human being who doesn’t deserve to be in the church.)

“One ex-member of the Church later told me that this kind of potty-mouthed, one-way abusive language was standard from David Miscavige. Another of his favourite sign-offs was YSCOHB. Decoded, it means: ‘You Suck Cock On Hollywood Boulevard’,” Sweeney writes.

But even with all the spying and harassment, Sweeney is still deeply apologetic about the thing that he’s best known for: losing his temper in a blow up that garnered 7 million views on YouTube. Part of his reason for writing the book was to explain fully how that episode occurred, and he does so in fascinating detail.

We talked to him this weekend about that and other statements he makes in the book: for example, his assertion that despite all the places he’s worked, from war zones to the sites of massacres, he’s never felt more fear than when he reported on Scientology.

“I always wanted to write this book about Scientology. I wanted to explain to people that I was wrong to lose my temper. But there’s something different about Scientology. I never behaved like that in a war zone. Scientology is a very dark thing to deal with,” he said to us by telephone from England.

We pointed out to Sweeney something we noticed on Twitter this week: with Lawrence Wright’s highly anticipated book on Scientology, Going Clear, debuting on the 17th, Slate’s Farhad Manjoo wrote that he didn’t understand why someone as talented as Wright wasted his time on something as “picayune” as the subject of Scientology.

“Lawrence has won a Pulitzer for a book on Al Qaeda. I was journalist of the year for coverage of a massacre in Algeria. Neither Lawrence nor I are patsy celebrity reporters. We report on the Church of Scientology for the same reason you do, because some say it’s a totalitarian organization inside the world’s richest and most powerful democracy, and that’s what makes it so frightening and sinister,” Sweeney answered. “Anybody who says it’s a joke is not serious.”

Or, as he puts it in the book…

I used to be a war reporter. From Algeria, Bosnia and Chechnya to Zimbabwe I have been shelled, shot at, bombed, arrested, threatened and a Serb devotee of Slobodan Milosevic once stuck two sticks of dynamite up my nose. But never, ever in all my times in all those wars have I felt under such harrowing psychological pressure as I did inside the brainwashing section of the Church of Scientology’s exhibition, ‘Psychiatry: The Industry of Death’ on Sunset Boulevard in LA in the spring of 2007. I am not a timid man but I was afraid then and am afraid now, afraid of them and afraid of it. I fear that by even attempting to write this book I risk ruin….I have wrestled with those fears for five years.

Sweeney is publishing his book in the United Kingdom at a time when Lawrence Wright’s British publisher, Transworld, pulled out of that project. And while Transworld denies that the church had anything to do with it, we’re not buying it. We have it from an excellent source that Wright’s UK publisher pulled out because of pressure from the Church’s attorneys and because of Britain’s libel laws, which make it so much more favorable for plaintiffs to sue.

Sweeney says he’s determined not to let the same happen to him.

“If anyone sues this book, my publisher and I are determined to fight it. We’ll then call it the book Scientology tried to stop, and there would be no better advertising,” he says.

Sweeney’s book beat Wright’s to the market by just ten days. But in some ways, this book is about another era. In 2007, when he was investigating the church, it was a lot harder to get information out of the church than it is today. In the last five years, a series of high-level defections and several other crises have crippled Scientology. No longer is church leader David Miscavige trying to “handle” the press with the bluster of a Tommy Davis.

“At that time Bruce Hines was the only one talking about David Miscavige’s violence — which the church denies. Now a dozen people are alleging it. I have personally met seven or eight people — people I have met and trust — who say they saw Miscavige being violent. But in 2007 I felt lonely,” Sweeney says. “In 2012 the world is different and it’s in part because of the courage of Scientologists who have left, and it’s also the power of the Internet. Chanology took off the year after the program.”

Sweeney has long accepted, however, that what most people remember about his show was not the hard work he did getting information out of the church, but that he exploded like a tomato — as he puts it — when Tommy Davis got under his skin.

In the book, Sweeney says it very much could have been a career-ending moment, and Rinder and Davis worked hard behind the scenes to make sure that it was. But ultimately, after taking a beating from the British press, Sweeney came out all right.

“Everybody thought I was wrong to lose my temper, but they could see that I was goaded into it. So the church’s approach was not a success. It was a failure. And five years on, it feels even more like that,” he says. “I am proud that BBC and Panorama stuck with me when that happened.”

Sweeney spends a good portion of the book weighing what he learned about Scientology against what experts say define a cult. The BBC man says the evidence for that is quite clear.

“I think it’s important to examine the evidence and weigh it,” he says. “But this organization is not a religion, it is a cult. And that’s what the evidence tells me — the church denies this.”

Increasingly, in places like Europe, governments are becoming less tolerant of Scientology’s business model. But in the United States, there is a different attitude, Sweeney agrees.

“In the 1600s, the American founding fathers, the pilgrims, fled England because they were being persecuted. So, hard wired into the sense of America is religious freedom. And we, at the same time, were burning people for having the right religion. We were wrong and the Americans were right. Two or three centuries on, we have a skepticism and cynicism about religion — in part about new religions — that seems entirely lacking in America,” he says. “The mafia and Dow Chemical could do quite well if they called themselves religions. In America they’d get a free pass. Well, that’s absurd.”

We asked him what the reaction to his shows was in England.

“In Britain, the first show peaked at 4.9 million which is very good numbers. It’s almost one in ten in Britain, and that’s fantastic. The second got something like 5 million again,” he says. “I have done shows exposing child killing. That’s the thing I’m most proud of. However, when I walk into a pub, once a month or whenever, someone who lost a person to Scientology will tell me, you’re the bloke who took on Scientology. Please can I buy you a drink.”

In the book, he shares an anecdote about being arrested by the secret police in Pakistan, who confiscated his passport. When they asked him who he really was, he told them to look him up on YouTube. They then turned him loose.

“I’d like to thank the Church of Scientology for making me instantly recognizable in this galaxy or any other.”

Why are British and Australian television journalists so much better on this subject than shows in America?

“Aussies are just British convicts who left a while ago,” he quips. But then he explains that journalism is at the core of Britain’s democracy, which is why such a small country has 16 national newspapers. And if there’s one thing British journalists hate, it’s deception.

“If Scientology is really fighting a space alien Satan they should tell people,” he says, referring to Xenu, the galactic overlord that Scientologists learn about on the level OT 3, when they have been in the religion for several years and have spent more than $100,000.

For years, we’ve made the point that this essential deception — not telling beginning Scientologists the church’s cosmic “origin story” — is essentially fraudulent. And we like how Sweeney puts it in the book…

Enter a Church — Catholic, Protestant, Orthodox or Coptic — and they will tell you that they believe that ‘Christ has died, Christ is risen, and Christ will come again.’ Enter a mosque and they will tell you: ‘Follow the teachings of the Prophet.’ Enter a synagogue: ‘Marry a nice Jewish girl/boy and don’t eat bacon sandwiches.’ Enter a Church of Scientology Org and no-one will tell you about the space alien Satan they’re fighting. Xenu is a logic bomb inside the Church of Scientology’s claim to be treated just like any other religion. A ‘religion’ that hides its core belief from the world is not a religion because a true religion must be open about itself to all. That is the essence of the British test set by the Charity Commissioners in London, and one the Church of Scientology fails.”

Sweeney recounts how church officials and Scientologist actresses all reacted when he asked them about Xenu. And it’s precious.

But for as funny as those moments in the book are — and Sweeney’s sense of humor is infectious — he repeatedly comes back to the darker side of covering Scientology, and recounts what reporters have gone through since Paulette Cooper was subjected to the worst terror campaign after the publication of her 1971 book, The Scandal of Scientology.

“In my darkest moments with Scientology, I was so afraid. I did not know what was going on,” he says. “Even to you, who has experienced this personally, I find it hard to explain. It really frightened me and I am willing to admit it now. When I lost my temper. It was a humbling moment. At the same time, people relate to me.

“The church tried to destroy me and they almost succeeded. But they didn’t. And I feel enormously stronger as a human being because of it. Because I’ve survived the worst that they could throw at me.”

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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 7, 2013 at 00:15

 

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  • Sherbet

    Delicious! And to John Sweeney, I say, please get past the exploding tomato incident. To me, it put a spotlight on Davis and what a loudmouthed sneak he was. He was a bully, and John Sweeney reacted as any human being would, and the viewer was left with: “And they call this bullbaiting part of a religion?” Sweeney did NOT lose face when he lost his temper.

    • scnethics

      I agree. I thought it made for great television.

    • moxonmoxoff

      Agree wholeheartedly. It presented an opportunity to see CO$ in a highly emotional situation–on camera–and they came off quite poorly. They really went in for the attack the louder Sweeney hollered. Nice religion you got there. So humble and kind and compassionate.

      • DodoTheLaser

        “Nice religion you got there. So humble and kind and compassionate.”
        Perfect summation, thank you!

        The sad thing, they think they are protecting/defending their “religion” by attacking critics like that.

        It’s their comfort zone they are protecting, I know because I used to be like that too. They will learn.

        Most of the scientologists approached by the critics defend the common sense positive drivel they
        learned from Dr. Hubtard, like The Way To Happiness stuff, use of dictionaries, all the super theta “sermons” about human rights – stuff that no one can really disagree with.

        It takes a combination of personal experience on technical/qual, admin/exec, dissem, HCO/OSA lines to see through all the bullshit for people who were in for a 10 years or more. People like me. I might be an idiot though. But also a fox.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Dodo, I am delighted your “inner fox” won. I always look forward to your posts.
          There are so many Ex-Scientologist’s who end up being the most honest, compassionate, Intelligent and humorous human beings.
          I am just so sorry about the damages done and the time that you all can never recover.
          I am so impressed that so many of you have come out on the other side as “whole” as you have….even though “whole” is probably a very poor choice of words.
          (Sorry, now all I can hear are Alanzo’s screetching rabbits in my head)

          Anyway, “There, for but the grace of God go I…..”
          I was extremely lucky…not smart or strong…just plain lucky.

          And almost every time I see a post from one you Exes, I whisper that phrase to myself in my brain.
          You are all so awesome and I am so glad you guys are out.
          Someday I hope all of the families are reunited and can begin to rebuild and heal.

          • Midwest Mom

            I always look forward to Dodo posts. Dodo, you’re not an idiot, but you are definitely a foxy Sci fighter! [Try saying that three times fast.:) ]

            • DodoTheLaser

              Haha! Thank you, Midwest Mom! It’s great to have you here, as well! There is something about you and your posts… reason and kindness. Looking forward for more :) Thanks again!

            • Midwest Mom

              Aww..shucks…it’s nice to be appreciated for more than my laundry stain fighting skilz. :)

            • DodoTheLaser

              Mom with great laundry AND on-line activism skilz gets my full respect, love and appreciation!

          • DodoTheLaser

            Thank you so much, BTN! Your words warmed my heart and put a smile on my face!
            I enjoy reading your posts, thank you for that. It’s pretty amazing to me that people like you,
            who were never in, dedicate their time and energy! Love your new avy,btw (so as the old ones).

        • http://www.facebook.com/jeb.burton.50 Jeb Burton

          I was reading that nut Rathbuns blog, and the feeling among the indies is that they love the DM bashing,but they hate the LRH bashing. Lots of negative comment about Sir Sweeney. I wish Tony would do a true bio of Marty Rathbun. While I admire his fight against corporate Scientology, he is still selling Hubbards twisted mind controlling bullshit and making thousands of dollars (auditing) for the misguided Indies. Never forget that Marty was just as sadistic and ugly as DM. He personally ruined hundreds of families.

          • Deckard__Cain

            A-fracking-men!!!!!!!

            I also wish that Tony would do some true digging on Rathbun, and it is not for a lack of witnesses. There’s several over on ESMB that have enough stories (most first hand) on the man. Rathbun is buried deep in denial and does everything possible not to shatter it.

          • DodoTheLaser

            It’s a church of intimidation. It’s a culture and a way of thinking. I can’t forget, but I can forgive. As long as these hot shots are revealing EVERYTHING to bring the justice.

        • http://profiles.google.com/rsvp.fete Jerim Sams

          What is the deal with Alan Boyle on NBC Cosmic Log actually quoting Scientology “spokesperson” Karen Pauw as a credible source? He defends her rote lie statement and disses John Sweeney — a fellow journalist. Nay, Sweeney is an award-winning journalist. That is so uncool and Alan Boyle needs to be seriously brought up to speed — so does NBC and his MSNBC blog. As I read it, I couldn’t help but think about Alan Boyle “Where the heck has this old fart been?” He is totally clueless about the nefarious history of blatant lies justified by Scientology and undermines Sweeney someone who is doing the world a public service by speaking out. Is Alan Boyle that clueless? Does he endorse the Paulette Cooper tactics and what Scientology corporation did to Placido Domingo Jr? Seriously unprofessional journalism.

      • http://profiles.google.com/rsvp.fete Jerim Sams

        The stand off between Tommy Davis and John Sweeney was a service to the world because it showed what corrupt Scientologists train being good at: Pushing another person’s buttons to make them look crazy. They train and specialize in this. It is vicious and practiced, and there you have Tommy Davis on camera, exemplary corrupt Scientologist, using Scientology for evil, trying to push John Sweeney over the edge. Thank you John Sweeney for standing up to this, for bringing us a different kind of “front lines” war — a corrupt organization that justifies antisocial tactics with the banner of “saving the world.”

    • SP ‘Onage

      I concur. I’d blow-up too if I was followed into the bathroom. Jeez, that was creepy when Tommy Davis asked him, “What you doing in there?”

      • Tory Christman

        Agreed, Sweeney’s “blow up” was totally natural, having seen what he’d gone through. I was in his VAN while they were chasing him! I remember him saying: “Can you see this? We are the BBC..don’t they get we are filming ALL of this?” And they continue to do their moronic actions, no matter how bad the press is. There’s an old saying, “Any press is better than no press”. I don’t think that’s true, re $cientology. They need to LEARN from their mistakes…which are HUGE. Thank you, Tony O, John S and Lawrence..your book better come out! I pre-paid for it (as if that’s all anyone cares about) LOL.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          Hi Tory,

          They will never learn from their mistakes. Since Scientologists don’t think for themselves and are ‘Ron-Determined’, they will continue to follow his antiquated cold-war era G.O. tactics of ‘attack never defend’ policy to their detriment. They are unwittingly burying themselves alive in bad press. Now the whole world is watching. The dwarf realizes this and has suspended any interviews and only issues his hand-picked, self-indulgent, and smug statements to the press. It’s way too late for them. They will never change. Scientology can never be reformed. The Indies are deluding themselves thinking that one day their ‘church’ can be reformed. It will never happen,

          • Tory Christman

            This I know to be true………but it won’t stop me from saying the NEED TO STOP THE ABUSES. Agreed, it IS way too late for them. IF Hubbard was so “Brilliant”…Why the Hell didn’t he perceive the Net? They’re toast due to the Net, as are every other totalitarian organization. :)

        • Sherbet

          The last thing we want is for cos to LEARN from their mistakes. We want them to keep making mistakes and keep looking stupid and keep getting caught in their lies.

          • Tory Christman

            Well that’s true….but I’m speaking for the MANY families I know who cannot speak w/ their loved ones (self included, re ex-husband—who we promised we’d ALWAYS remain friends, at the least). They DO need to learn from those mistakes and abuses, so the families can finally be re-connected. There is on “win” in how it’s happening as is, to those of us suffering from their abuses.

        • jensting

          This was the “noisy” part of the harassment, the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology didn’t mind how obvious that was…

          • Tory Christman

            I know….and I don’t mind VERY LOUDLY Exposing their abuses. I educate people about them, EVERY SINGLE DAY.

        • ze moo

          The CO$ had a major change of tactics around 07-08. In the past anyone doing any story on the CO$ was automatically an ‘sp’ and fair gamed as such. Paulette Cooper and the Tampa Bay reporters had to contend with false police reports and all kinds of harassment.

          Private investigators would follow Sweeney around try to intimidate him, but 2 sets of cameras recording each other aren’t very intimidating. What journalist is being followed by PI’s right now? Who is getting the black pr at this moment? Rathbun had the Squirrel busters, but they were not intimidating at all, if fact, I found their antics much like Monty Python’s ‘No one expects the Spanish Inquisition.’

          While publishers in the UK may have to drop books for fear of libel and slander suits, no one else does. What changed around 07-08?? Why doesn’t the CO$ try to strike fear into the hearts of the opposition any more? Rinder and Rathbun were put into the Hole around then and they escaped some where around that time. Is there no one willing to do the dirty work for CO$ anymore? Or does the dwarfenfürher not trust anyone to do such work anymore? Something changed in the way CO$ deals with the press. Why?? With all the CO$ exposes coming out this year, they do seem to have lost their old touch. All MIscavige has done lately is hunker down and cover this head, is he tired of the war?

          • Tory Christman

            What *actually* happened that TOTALLY Changed the history of $cientology, forever, happened in January of 2008: The ARRIVAL OF ANONYMOUS! The *true* change happened with our first picket, in Feb, 2008 with 9,000 people picketing ever major city, around the world. After that, peeps came out from all over, finally speaking out (with their names), writing books, etc. It ALL Changed with that one HUGE non group of people willing to say, “Not on our watch”. I will say, the road built for them to walk on was built by MANY before them, so courageously took on the Cult for years, prior. Love and peace, Tory/Magoo

            • Ze Moo

              Ah Magoo, you’ve done it again. That is the only thing that changed around ’08. Let’s give 3 ‘huzzars’ for 4chan and Anonymous. I won’t do ‘hip hip horays’, the Lroners spoiled that one. I guess Davey couldn’t stand all the attention and put his head in the sand. I guess that is the way with most totalitarians, when you can’t cut the weakest calf out of the herd, you look for other meat. The truth is the brightest light……Love and Peace to you’all too……

      • Sherbet

        “Trying to wash your creepiness off me, Tommy.”

    • mirele

      I think we need more journalists to lose their tempers in the face of assholes. And since Scientology is the king of assholes…

      • Rick Mycroft

        Or at least be able to look a PR drone asshole in the eye and say “Are you f—ing kidding? Do you really think everyone is as stupid as you are?”

      • Sherbet

        We need another Mike Wallace.

      • http://profiles.google.com/rsvp.fete Jerim Sams

        Indeed. and someone bring Alan Boyle MSNBC Cosmos Blogger up to speed! Alan Boyle’s coverage on John Sweeney’s work is a blind acceptance of what the notoriously lying Scientology Corporation fed NBC! Unbelievable. He has lost a lot of respect. My guess is they have secretly been grooming him and looking for his go buttons. Has he no clue what they did to the South Park writers offices? NBC and Comic Log are now officially creepy because that is some very nonfactual reporting Boyle does — since when is Alan Boyle the mouthpiece for scheming manipulators with a string of felony convictions for deception (Operation Snowwhite etc)?

    • Rick Mycroft

      Keep in mind that it was mainly CoS’s coverage of the tomato incident that was used, where Tommy Davis has his back to the camera and Sweeney is facing it. This conveniently downplays the volume of Davis’ own yelling. The BBC coverage, which reverses the positions, makes that clear.

      • Sherbet

        My understanding is that the video released by cos had Sweeney’s voice amplified as well. True?

        • Rick Mycroft

          I don’t know, but giving Scientology’s long history of manipulating photos of their events, it wouldn’t surprise me.

    • http://www.facebook.com/martin.padfield.1 Martin Padfield

      Well, yes, but you can’t help thinking Sweeney has milked this “exploding tomato” thing just a tad too much to his advantage. And a book? Why yet another book with the same material? Why not a proper new BBC expose on the abuses? Sweeney’s book won’t have the gravitas or depth of Janet Reitman’s or Wright’s new book and will unlikely add much that isn’t well known.

      My question for Sweeney is – what happened with the 2010 Panorama? After endless minutes of preamble about meeting Mike Rinder, complete with trendy airport Arrivals shots that added nothing to the actual story, Sweeney then went on to tell almost nothing about what Mike actually told him – i.e. about the abuses in detail. There was NOTHING in this programme beyond the self-publicising waffle about how he was followed and watched (surprise!). No doubt his defence would be legal advice blah blah but it was still a major cop-out and he knows it. It was left to a journalist with balls, Anderson Cooper, to let rip with the real story on CNN who didn’t buckle under pressure.

      I feel doubly miffed about this also since the day of the 2010 Panorama on the Jeremy Vine show, BBC Radio 2 I was asked live on air, in front of 6.5 million listeners, what were the abuses by Vine. So the BBC had no problem asking the questions, but when given the actual answers by those in the know – Rinder, Rathbun, Scobee and others, failed to mention ANY of it. (Since I had little first hand info about the worst of the abuses my answer was a little “straight bat” – only mentioning personal experience of disconnection etc)

      I trust the proceeds from your book John, will either go to making a proper documentary with the information you already have – or towards the victims of cults themselves.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Did somebody hack your account?

        I’m of the opinion ‘all donations gratefully accepted..’ and I thought the 2010 Panorama was great.. Sure, I would have preferred that it dealt a death blow to co$.. but I’ll take what I can get and continue to root for more..

        Love your work, Mr. Padfield, and love Sweeney’s as well.. Hope you both keep up the good fight..

      • 1subgenius

        I hate piss in my cornflakes.

      • Sherbet

        I can’t argue with anything you say, because you, obviously, know more than I do. However, a book may reach the US in ways the BBC can’t, except through YouTube.

      • Chocolate Velvet

        Martin, if there is a story you feel must be told, and no one else is telling it, then by all means, tell it! A blog, an interview or guest column, whatever it takes. Get it out there. Don’t wait for someone else to do it. John is telling his story, for his reasons. I see a lot of new info in this interview, in his personal account of his handling.

        There are a lot of “shore stories” and cover-ups connected to the COS. It is a collective burden of everyone who knows something, to do the work of getting it out there. I sincerely applaud your efforts thus far. Keep going!

      • jensting

        ” There was NOTHING in this programme beyond the self-publicising waffle”

        Just not true. But it pleases some to believe that this flat out statement could be taken seriously. Apart from David Miscavigem no-one really believes this, and even he has doubts about how effectively this was put…

    • Deckard__Cain

      I agree but he does have to account for it because if you only look at that clip (without viewing his own Panorama stories) then it has a perception that he’s not an objective journalist. Most of us have already seen all parts of his Panorama series, but he needs to establish that for those that did not.

    • Ziontologist

      I don’t hold it against Sweeney for losing his temper. Scientology makes people act in a way they would never  think of on their own.
      I get calls from time to time, and they drive me crazy, too. It’s hard not to lose your temper when they verbally violate certain “unspoken expectations” of basic decency. 
      Scientologists have plenty of communication drills. They like to break communication down to the “mechanics” of communication, but somehow they manage to leave human decency out of it. That’s the satanic influence, that nothing should get in the way of the Hubbard money train, “May they be damned and dead.”
      It’ll seem like a normal conversation, but then they’ll respond to you with something no normal adult person would say. 
      I always point that out to them, that they are not the “source” of the what they’re saying to me. I point it out that they’re practicing something they learned in Scientology. I’ll show how pathetic they sound by using Scientology itself, or Miscavige as an example. 
      The one thing Scientologists never “apply” their “applied philosophy” to is the subject of Scientology itself, or to Hubbard or Miscavige. 
      I’ll ask them to imagine if my words were the words of David Miscavige, and suddenly they “get” how rude they’re being.
      This is because I’m not really listening to their words, as much as I am identifying the source of what they are doing – that’s the only way. Anything else just won’t make sense, and you’ll eventually lose your temper.

    • Ziontologist

      I don’t hold it against Sweeney for losing his temper. Scientology makes people act in a way they would never  think of on their own.
      I get calls from time to time, and they drive me crazy, too. It’s hard not to lose your temper when they verbally violate certain “unspoken expectations” of basic decency. 
      Scientologists have plenty of communication drills. They like to break communication down to the “mechanics” of communication, but somehow they manage to leave human decency out of it. That’s the satanic influence, that nothing should get in the way of the Hubbard money train, “May they be damned and dead.”
      It’ll seem like a normal conversation, but then they’ll respond to you with something no normal adult person would say. 
      I always point that out to them, that they are not the “source” of the what they’re saying to me. I point it out that they’re practicing something they learned in Scientology. I’ll show how pathetic they sound by using Scientology itself, or Miscavige as an example. 
      The one thing Scientologists never “apply” their “applied philosophy” to is the subject of Scientology itself, or to Hubbard or Miscavige. 
      I’ll ask them to imagine if my words were the words of David Miscavige, and suddenly they “get” how rude they’re being.
      This is because I’m not really listening to their words, as much as I am identifying the source of what they are doing – that’s the only way. Anything else just won’t make sense, and you’ll eventually lose your temper.

      • Midwest Mom

        Thanks for providing the examples from your experiences, Zi. It is interesting how they don’t question anything that comes from Hubbard, even when it doesn’t make any sense (especially with the changes in technology and scientific and medical advancement).

        • Ziontologist

          Right.
          If a person is overly critical of something, most would agree the person has “issues.”
          Scientology says if a person is overly “critical”, it’s because they have “overts and withholds” (crimes and secrets), causing them to “natter.”
          But Hubbard can go on all day about “the psyches” (psychiatrists), and no one notices he’s being irrational critical! I mean, the guy had issues!

          • Midwest Mom

            It’s so contrary to the value of critical thinking for advancing one’s education in every field of interest, as well as for evaluating personal morals, values, and opinions. I can’t imagine being taught not to think critically. It’s so Orwellian; like in the book 1984.

            • Ziontologist

              I can’t imagine getting into it now, with all that’s available on the internet, but even back in the day, it was pretty weird … I don’t think you can derive what it’s like just by reading about it, but it drives me nuts that anyone is still into it or taking it seriously!

            • Midwest Mom

              It’s especially upsetting with regard to the children, who don’t have a choice and don’t have anywhere else to turn.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Exactly MOM

            • Tory Christman

              Educate your kids on “What is a Cult”…..so they KNOW the steps. They won’t get trapped, then, or are FAR less likely to be. Google it—lots of info there :)

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=661239103 Mimi Armagh Parrow

    I LOVE Sweeney!!

  • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

    “‘You Suck Cock On Hollywood Boulevard’ ……. hmmm, obviously too much scotch whilst reviewing Travolta’s audit files triggered that secret longing nodule in his addled brain

    • Sherbet

      Wait — you mean audit files are NOT PRIVATE?? I can’t believe it!

      (Snark font)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      “YSCOHB” I love that song! I wish I had written it. I wonder if Monty Python group …. okay, back to bed for me.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Honey, you might be confusing it with “YMCA” song! Haha! g’night

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          See Karin Pouw’s Sappell reply about the dog.

        • grundoon

          The biker dude in black leather is little Davey’s favorite.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Audit files is something more relevant to IRS. In scientology it’s – auditing files/folders.

      The irony. Makes me wonder if you did it on purpose, Media_lush. LOL

  • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

    “Aussies are just British convicts who left a while ago….”

    harumph

    • http://twitter.com/media_lush media_lush

      mainly true…. amusingly.

      Aussies are people we love to hate but actually get on with really well as we can both take a joke.

      • Unex Skcus

        One of our (Aussie) better qualities is that we can laugh at ourselves! We tend to give each other heaps, have a chuckle, and then buy another round of drinks.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Cheers to that, mate!

      • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

        And we respond by telling you to pull your head in (with much love, of course). As a ten pound immigrant I can’t really comment of course.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

      I heard a line, “The ones who were smart enough to run away became Americans. The ones who were dumb enough to get caught became Australians. The ones who were so stupid they thought everything was fine are still Englishmen.” To which an English friend replied, “Everything WAS fine, once we were shed of you lot!”

  • sugarplumfairy

    Well worth waiting up for.. Thank you, Tony, and thank you, Mr. Sweeney.. Y’all definitely don’t SCOHB..

    ‘night, all.. Can’t wait to start the book tomorrow..

  • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

    “When I lost my temper. It was a humbling moment. At the same time, people relate to me.”

    I have much respect for people who have fallen apart and can then with humility pick themselves up again. John Sweeney’s reaction was completely human and can be reaily shown as that through the footage he took of his treatment. As individuals we all lose it now and again so we will support those who respond as Sweeney did, humbly and professionally.

    Scientology, you FAIL again.

    “The church tried to destroy and they almost succeeded. But they didn’t. And I feel enormously stronger as a human being because of it. Because I’ve survived the worst that they could throw at me.”

    It’s great for John that the times have changed, allowing him this measure of vindication and perspective.

    And squeeeeeee, my pre-ordered book has just arrived. Sweeeeeeeet.

    • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

      Only five dollars on kindle, that’s a great deal! I would have paid more, but now I can afford gourmet popcorn to go with it;)

  • Poison Ivy

    Worth staying up past my bedtime for! Looking forward to the book…oh, my post-holiday reading list is way too long already!

    • moxonmoxoff

      I’m saying, rite? I finally broke down and ordered a Kindle because I cannot continue to lug all these books around. That’s right, Grandma is steeping into the 21st century.

      • California

        stepping?

        • 1subgenius

          Hey maybe moxonmoxoff would know what Kendrick’s been up to lately. Haven’t seen him around.

          • moxonmoxoff

            so many missing in action. maybe they all got raptured?

      • Trustmeonthis

        Totally! Now you can Read All the Books without carrying all the books! And the print gets bigger if you tell it to. ;-)

  • DodoTheLaser

    Channeling Karin Pouw – “David Miscavige would never use such words, plus it was 5 years ago.
    We’ve moved on.” LOL Thank you Tony and thank you Mr. Sweeney. Will be getting the book through Kindle.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      and besides…that cock was an old cock, and it’s been dead a long time.

      • DodoTheLaser

        plus COB is not into cocks or chickens, he likes his out-ethics sniffing dogs, just like LRH did.

      • richelieu jr

        Brilliant! ROTF! Perfect!

      • EnthralledObserver

        “that cock has been ‘flaccid’ a long time…”

        Sorry, sorry… did that step over the line?

        LOL

        • SP ‘Onage

          No. Especially when you’re talking about the little Dicktator. :)

        • 1subgenius

          Yes, but then, good taste is the refuge of the witless.

      • Unex Skcus

        LMAO :)

      • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

        Man that was good!

  • EnthralledObserver

    Wow… I was thinking this book might just be filled with the old news, such as what was contained int he second doco, but I see just from this interview and the exerpts that there is a lot more behind the scenes things, and most importantly the way John Sweeney was feeling and reacting personally about what went on during those times. It should be a riveting read.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Bwahahahaha! After everyone reads this book, David Miscavige will be SCOHB. Decoded, it means: Sucking Cock On Hollywood Boulevard!

  • Artoo45

    I totally relate to the exploding tomato incident. I’m easily provoked by bullies like the Scilons. Can’t wait to read the whole thing!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    “We report on the Church of Scientology for the same reason you do, because some say it’s a totalitarian organization inside the world’s richest and most powerful democracy, and that’s what makes it so frightening and sinister,” … my favorite Sweeney quote in this interview. Exactly.

    Sweeney totally gets the nitty gritty of it all: American values of religious protection have swung too far. It needs to center, to find a balance or crossroad where our other values of common sense, compassion and true justice meet.

    I would so love to see in 2013 an international press conference of all the journalists and authors who have covered scientology over the years to speak out together about all the abuses and harrassment that you and any of your family, friends or associates have endured in silence.

    Bullies and their willing assistants, like Tommy Davis, They are now the ones who have slithered under the rocks and gone quiet. Now it is all of your turns to speak. I can just imagine Paulette Cooper hosting such a conference. This time, finally, you all may have the ears of the world. I for one know for certain you will have the gratitude of more than you may ever know. Thank you.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Oh wait. Sweeney, you might be a genius. What if Marc and Claire Headley and crew filed for asylum in England based on religious persecution, only not for Practicing a religion, but for Not practicing. They sure have many of the qualifications of harassment and abuse and relentless very long term persecution. They’ve already tried the U.S. Justice system and got kicked to the curb and handed a friggin’ legal bill. They’ve since had even their own children spied on and their business/income, reputation attacked and mangled.

      Perhaps a case like this would be The tipping point to move us on down to that merry middle. Scientology persecutes members if they don’t want to practice their rituals any longer. Scientology persecutes any person, organization, or media that objects to their persecution. Scientology bribes, blackmails, coerces and persecutes anyone they like for whatever reason they choose and commits whatever crimes they want all because they Can…under the cloak of religion.

      If there can’t be a class action lawsuit, perhaps there can be a class application for asylum in another country. There certainly are enough potential applicants and that would be one helluva lively cruise over the Atlantic. Just remember to buy Sweeney a round or two when you get there.

  • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

    Is COB just a shorter way of saying YSCOHB? Is Davey trying to covertly tell us something?

    • richelieu jr

      Well we all know what ‘covert hostility’ on the Hubbard-o-meter is equivalent to, don’t we?

  • http://www.facebook.com/garry.scarff Garry Scarff

    The book is only on Kindle? I don’t have Kindle.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Download Kindle Cloud Reader, PC or Mac. Don’t need a Kindle.

      http://www.amazon.com/gp/help/customer/display.html/ref=hp_left_ac?ie=UTF8&nodeId=200701430

    • DodoTheLaser

      You can download Kindle app on your smart phone.

    • Midwest Mom

      You can order a paperback book at http://www.silvertailbooks.com/

      • http://surisburnbook.tumblr.com/ nobs

        Thank you. That’s just what I needed.

      • DeElizabethan

        I like a real book, just easier for me, so thanks for this info MM. I’ll be ordering one from UK
        http://www.silvertailbooks.com

    • http://www.facebook.com/kewelbeanzaa Randy Hildebrand

      You can use Amazon’s cloud reader if you don’t have a kindle

    • MO Mom

      There are Kindle apps available for Mac, PC, Android and iPod Touch / iPhone / iPad – all free.

  • http://twitter.com/SnippyH Snippy Haines

    All I ever see in that clip is the weird thing Tommy Davis keeps doing with his tongue, like there were green electric arcs shorting out his brain.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I noticed that too, and my conclusion was that he was chewing gum. how disgustingly rude to begin with! And at some point he realised he couldn’t shout at John and chew or keep the gum in his mouth at the same time, so I think he eventually swallowed it.
      Classy dude… I don’t think so.

      • http://twitter.com/SnippyH Snippy Haines

        Yes, but it went beyond the gum management. Very Tourettes-ish.

        • EnthralledObserver

          Could you be suggesting persistent E-meter usage damage…??? :p

        • 1subgenius

          Literally foaming at the mouth.

    • grundoon

      L. Ron Hubbard once ordered David Miscavige to spit in the face of senior Scientology executive John Aczel, which he did and reported back. Knowing what ethics means to Miscavige, Tommy Davis was getting a juicy wad ready to let fly on Lou’s signal. Luckily this time the order didn’t come, because DM’s minions learn to spit or swallow at his whim. https://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2010/10/15/mike-rinder-on-the-edge/#comment-56967

    • DeElizabethan

      To me it looked like something you sucked on and in that one shot it showed him moving it around, great shot. boy I bet he caught hell for that one, a classic.

  • http://www.facebook.com/deanOT5 Dean Blair

    What a wonderful introduction to a great book. I will be reading it shortly. I too have experienced this fear that you have so eloquently relayed. It is Satanic in origin. Thank you Mr. Sweeney and Mr. Tony Ortega. You are both heroes.

    • stillgrace

      Thank you, Dean, for mentioning that particular fear that “is Satanic in origin”. A few months back, I was reading heavily, book after book, about Hubbard. I started having the worst fearful nightmares that I have ever had in my life.

      When I woke up screaming in the middle of the night in a hotel room while on a business trip, I knew I had to dial back on investigating the Hubbard-Crowley connection. I did, and my nights eventually became more peaceful and normal.

      I still know, however, in my heart of hearts, without question, that the origins of scientology are of the deepest, darkest evil possible, sanitized to make it somewhat more palatable for the masses. I’ve seen it, and I don’t ever want to see it again.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

        Dean, Stillgrace – You’re absolutely right. It explains why John Sweeney felt the fear he did. Even on the battlefield a person is not confronted with pure evil. There a person also encounters sacrifice and dedication to a perceived (if sometimes misguided) good. The root of Scientology, the relentless pursuit of individual power and control over others fueled by pride and arrogance is the personification of evil. While your use of the word “Satanic” may put off rationalists who eschew the supernatural (no offense intended to rationalists), it is spot on because it succinctly describes unmitigated evil.

        • ze moo

          Some American states have the legal concept of ‘fighting words’. In some states, Mr. Sweeney’s exchange of shouts with Tommy Davis could be construed as an assault. Mr. Sweeney should not be ashamed of losing his British reserve and yelling back at Davis. If I had been in Seeeney’s position, I would have beaten the crap out of Tommy Davis and my local police would have backed me up. Of course, you still have to win the lawsuit that would follow any such fight, but that is why smart phones with camera and recorders are so handy.

          The wide press coverage of the ‘exploding tomato’ incident hurt the CO$ much more then it hurt the BBC or Sweeney. That is one of the reasons that scamatology doesn’t do public black pr on journalists at the moment. They are too afraid of the negative publicity. Every negative CO$ story causes a few more defections and prevents new meat from coming in the door. The cash flow that Miscavige needs has been dropping to levels that cannot sustain the current CO$. Miscaviges biggest fear is that the faithful kool-aid drinkers will band together and oust him for his poor leadership.

          • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

            The “Fighting Words” doctrine was at one time a standard approved by the U.S. Supreme Court as a way of determining what speech could be banned by the government under the First Amendment. That standard was ultimately fully rejected when the Court adopted the current standard that the speech in question must be advocating imminent violence against a specific target. Tommy Davis’ rant could however have opened him to tort liability in a civil action for assault in many states if Sweeney felt that Davis’ actions put him in apprehension of immediate physical harm.

            • ze moo

              Tommy’s Co$ fortunes slowly fell after this incident. After the ‘there is no disconnection’ and the audio tape where Tommy threatens a former sea orgre with disconnection and the ‘if Lron had no ww2 injuries to heal’ line, he disappeared until he escaped to Texas. I suspect the co$ induced cognitive dissonance finally took its toll and Tommy cracked and ran. Miscavige must have really reamed Tommy out to get him to move to Texas.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Gerard, these are all valid points. Keep it in mind though – most scientologistst consider all dynamics, threw the concept of an ideal scene somewhere and a planetary clearing. In another words, they want others to do well too, not just themselves. It’s utopian, since, no one really reaches states of Clear and OT as described by Hubbard. Gradually, it does becomes “Satanic” eventually and straight abusive. My point is – scientologists think in their little perfect word that they are fighting the right fight, for the sake of all and everyone. I would guess similarly with some Jihad Muslim extremists, who are convinced in their rightness under god or some such. Independent scientologistst would be like peaceful muslims in that analogy. I hope it makes sense. Either way, I understand John Sweeney feeling fear the way he did.

    • 1subgenius

      Two things need more emphasis in this cause for great justice: the automated hypnosis, and the satanic aspect.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        ‘Aspect’ is too nebulous a word to describe the direct influence of Satanism on Hubbard.

        My Mom was at that “Hotel Hell” in Pasadena when LRH and Parson’s were at their “Occultist” peak of DUMBASSNESS! And she was wrapped up in it like a mummy…and she never, ever, ever let it (or him) go.

        Crowley and his “Thelema” was the Impetus, the Inspiration if you will, for what came to be known as first Dianetic’s, and then; eventually, Scientology.

        • 1subgenius

          DON’T YELL AT ME! I struggled for at least 45 seconds to find the right word.
          OK smarty pants what word would you have used in that sentence that would have been less “nebulous” (as if THAT’S a real word). (where’s the facetious font?)
          Yeah, at some raids I relished pointing out to Christian passers-by the crossed-out cross.
          Its all so obvious.
          And the creation of an automated brain-washing mind-enslaving system that continues even after your death is another big clue.
          Sorry about your mom. That sucks. Hope you’ve developed some good tools for dealing with that.
          Have you written your account of those days?

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Chuckles!…No…I have not written it yet…I buried those nuts…LOL…

            Honestly…I am still processing it and I DO want to write it…but even while typing this response to you I am almost in tears.

            Actually, I am still confused by my Mom, LRH…and its/his impact on my life.
            It is funny how you can waltz through life and be aware, yet unaware of things….weird even.
            My story is Creepy. But it so far removed from what a regular Scientologist experienced.
            I never had anything to do with Orgs…or management tech or anything structural. My experience is all about one woman’s attraction, devotion to the man and the tech…and how that influenced us…me.
            I am a 53 year old woman now….
            The fact that it has come roaring back into my mind over and over again…well, that seems to be telling.
            I need to “deal”…
            I will figure it out. Places like this have helped me a lot. ;)

            • Midwest Mom

              You sound so much like Derek! Girl, you need to talk to someone who knows how to handle these types of emotional experiences, and can help sort out the confusion and pain. You deserve it! :)

            • DeElizabethan

              Glad you are still processing it BTN. I buried many nuts too. One excellent way is to type it all up as it comes back to you or what you are feeling at the time. It is amazing even tho not easy to do, but very effective. Tears yes, but the baggage will unload, like peeling the onion of what’s sittin’ there. I say this as it’s what I finally did myself. Also, I only shared a little to another, some no one has read and it now doesn’t matter so much. It is the self healing process that really matters. Love ya!

        • Midwest Mom

          Wow, I never knew that about your mom before, btn. Now I understand how you are able to relate to Derek so well from your experiences, as well as sharing a similar perspective as a kid affected by the cult and occult. You had such a different childhood than I experienced.

          Have you already spoken to Tony about your mom’s involvement with Hubbs and Crowley? It sounds like something he would like to know (as would the rest of us). Now I understand how you know so much about Thelema and the early days of Hubbs.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Mom, I really have a very small window on it all…..really! Such a small window.
            My mom knew some early stuff…and she continued her own “occult” practices into my early life.
            Like when I crashed my head into a brick wall (fell off a swing)…..and i bled so hard…and my Mom calmly found a spider web and put it on my forehead to stop the bleeding.
            It worked. I remember that her strange practices when I was a small child…worked…!
            I am not ready to share any more yet.
            And besides, My story is not worthy of a TO story….
            I will say this though…I recently have done the LRH Self Audits…and I wish I could say it sucked…but I can’t…It rocked.
            In fact…My foray into self analysis almost ended my marriage.
            I am “hoping” we are past that and into some comm.

            • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

              Some of her remedies could have been what in the ’60′s was referred to as “Folk Medicine”, natural remedies found by trial and error over the centuries.

            • Midwest Mom

              “Comm”? Uh oh.

              Also, as far as the hubby situation, don’t take Hubbs, Crowley’s or Oprah’s word for anything about marriage. Do bake scones and kick box. Husbands think it’s neato when their wives can kick higher than the refrigerator while holding a plate of freshly baked scones.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Suz….LOL

            • DodoTheLaser

              BTN, is that you?

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

          I’m sorry to hear about the enslavement (I can think of no more appropriate term) of your mother. I hope that she was able to find escape and peace in the end. I also hope that you continue to find healing for yourself from the injuries you’ve suffered from this evil. Your continuing contributions here are a testimony to your courage. Thank you.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Ty

  • Brainslugged

    Really looking forward to reading this book – which should be hitting my Kindle in a little over two hours at midnight. It was Sweeney’s documentary that really piqued my interest in this cult. I would love to have the honour of buying him a pint someday. And RIP Shawn Lonsdale – another victim of the cult whether directly or indirectly.

    Just realized it’s already midnight on the east coast so gonna check my kindle now :)

    • Midwest Mom

      I admire Mr. Sweeney for standing up for Shawn Lonsdale. I would not have remained calm in that situation, either, and Shawn deserved having someone stick up for him like that, didn’t he?

  • EnthralledObserver

    I wanted to add that I thought John, despite apparently losing control of his temper during Tommy’s barrage of accusations during the first doco in 1997, was actually incredibly in control. I might have slapped that smarmy pricks face myself. Well done, John, for not succumbing to violence… like some we know.

    • DodoTheLaser

      I agree. Did you mean 2007?

      • EnthralledObserver

        Er *blushes* yep… yep I did. lol. Wow, new year really has thrown me out. hahaha

        • DodoTheLaser

          No problem, thanks for sharing your thoughts.

  • Midwest Mom

    Mr. Sweeney, you now have a different issue to deal with as the result of this book: International Sex Symbol. You are now being dubbed the “Literati Hottie”. Be careful, out there. It’s not easy being a heartthrob. :)

    • EnthralledObserver

      Agree *fans self a little*

    • moxonmoxoff

      I’d hit it. But I’m slutty like that.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yup

    • http://www.facebook.com/dianne.lipson Dianne Lipson

      Tony Orgega is pretty hot too. But apparently he’s already in a relationship with some Scientology actress who is writing a tell-all book. At least according to one of the tabloid websites!

      • grundoon

        “Lust in the Bunker: Cats and Dogs Living Together!”

    • Midwest Mom

      Update:

      The alluring and very talented heartthrob/investigative reporter and author John Sweeney has officially replaced “Scud Stud” journalist Arthur Kent as the dashing darling of the international media for the millennium and has been given the monikers “Literati Hottie”,”The Duke of Dashing” and “Teflon John”.

      Mr. Sweeney, who downplays his reputation as a sex symbol with modesty and good humor, would prefer to be known for his tireless work in investigative journalism and not his handsome good looks and macho sex appeal.

      It’s not easy for his female fans to focus on his journalistic skills when he is on television, though. They may have better luck while reading his new book “Church of Fear”, his newest book release, which is a fascinating account of his experiences reporting on the nefarious Cult of $cientology.

      It’s suspenseful and a quick page turner, so be forewarned, you may have to read this book straight through. Fasten your seatbelts, folks – it’s a spectacular ride!

  • HeatherGraceful

    Terrific. I’m looking forward to reading John Sweeney at length.

  • moxonmoxoff

    *yawn* COB’s invective is rather uninspired. He should head over to D-listed and get some real material. Besides, what’s so wrong with sucking c*ck (on Hollywood Blvd or otherwise)?

    So that’s 5 Scientology books on my reading list right now. Looking forward to seeing what Sweeney serves up! Thanks again for bringing us the latest, Mr. T.

    • Espiando

      If Michael K became the leader of Scientology today, I’d be on the cans by tomorrow.

  • SP ‘Onage

    SuperSweeney, champion of truth! Thank you for writing this book. You are a courageous man with titanium balls. I admire you so much for taking on this sinister cult.

  • DodoTheLaser

    This is going to be fun! Waiting for OSA to start commenting here,
    making fulls of themselves and contributing to the book promotion.

    • moxonmoxoff

      I think they know better, non?

      • DodoTheLaser

        One would hope so. Let’s watch and see. It’s a history in the making.

        • moxonmoxoff

          Well, I for one would be entertained. :) But I like a good freak show, so you know.

          • DodoTheLaser

            Same here, lady.

    • John P.

      We haven’t had an OSA troll in a long time on Tony’s site. We also haven’t had any of the freelance cult “public” members commenting (the folks who will actually come back and post multiple times, trying to spark a distracting discussion). I don’t think there are any OSA trolls any more. Somebody who’s connected in LA ought to try and figure out if Gloria Idda blew or if she’s in the RPF or if she’s on to a different job. Key data point: zero comments defending the cult against the mockery from many of our commenters (and others) in response to the bizarre letter to the editor in LA Magazine.

      If they’re not defending against visible ridicule and attacks on their “home turf,” then were are they? There hasn’t been a lot of negative press in major publications (People, Time, etc.) for them to be concentrating their few remaining resources on. I’m mystified.

      • California

        Karma? Long over-due but happening now?

      • Midwest Mom

        John, I see them all the time on entertainment/celebrity sites pushing Jack Reacher. Deadline Hollywood had some funny ones the other day – one Sci commenter actually had the nerve to call Reacher “a critically acclaimed movie”.

        They’re out there, but as usual, they’re extremely juvenile and ridiculous.

        • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

          Maybe the danger of exposure to critics of the CO$ is deemed to be to great and they’re not allowed to troll these sites. The entrainment/celebrity sites could be thought to be safer and more productive in finding new bodies for the shop.

          • DodoTheLaser

            That or COB is rethinking his strategiginess.

        • ze moo

          There may only be enough sci trolls to plug Jack Reacher and not enough to fight all of the entheta. By pumping up Reacher they increase TC ‘big beingness’ and put a few more dollars in his pocket,so he can put more dollars into scamatology.

          Of course, it may only be ‘social media marketing’ by Cruise and his studio.

          There has been a lack of trolling at a lot of anit-scamatology sites in the last 4 or 6 months. Shall we call this period ‘the silence of the clams’?

      • grundoon

        And most of the posts that got the “OSA troll” label were really just one long-departed non-OSA Scientologist with a string of sockpuppets – flunk, stillkeyedout, etc – who has lately been posting more honestly as Ziontologist. Sometimes indies drop in to strike a blow for LRH, hit-and-run style.

        I don’t recall that I’ve spotted anyone here posting like a real OSAbot or OT Committee type. They stay away from Tony’s place because they’re afraid they would succumb to all the truth and humor. (Meanwhile working on their plans to ruin him utterly, and his little dog too.)

        • DeElizabethan

          You got it! I’m happy to read Z’s comments now. I even give him a thumbs up.

      • Deckard__Cain

        I’ve noticed quite a delay in the PR fluff pieces from when any negative Scientology story comes out and when my Google alerts start spitting out the bogus fluff. I started noticing, after the 2011 Summer of Fun (aka the Tom Cruise divorce), that the PR fluff was coming out after longer intervals following a bad Scientology story. Prior to the Summer of Fun, the fluff came out 1-2 times a week (usually on a Monday – Wednesday) but increased to several times a day when the Cook incident occurred.

        Now the fluff seems to have slowed to a crawl, and I’m wondering if Miscavige’s micromanaging every story is to blame for the longer delays. Or it could be the lack of slaves (or slaves that read/write in English).

        • DeElizabethan

          Probably the slave that can’t read in English.

      • DodoTheLaser

        “I’m mystified.”
        Same here. My alert is still on though.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    I applaud John Sweeney for the way he has hung in there with this story.  John, you deserve much respect as a journalist, in so many ways.  As for the way you exploded all over TD, there is another way to look at it.  One of the reasons the COS’ provocation strategy works is because it leverages one’s need to maintain self-control.  In a handling like yours, scilons are solely focused on provoking their target, but more to drive them away from confrontation than to make them react.

    The best way to contain an enemy is to goad them to contain themselves.  Create a fear in them of the ruin they will bring down on themselves if they respond to an attack.  By crowding their target psychologically as well as physically, creating an environment in which everywhere they turn there is more stress and more upset, it is easy to make them feel cornered and on the edge of panic or insanity.  That is usually when the cult moves in with some sort of offer — just drop the story, or play nice, and we’ll leave you alone.  Their target is often eager to accept at that point, simply to escape the pressure and avoid the stress and humiliation of losing control.

    A loss of face is something most human beings will do much to avoid.  This is doubly true if one has worked hard to build a reputation and résumé to be proud of, like you, John.  By the same token, once that line has been crossed, a major inhibiting “button” can no longer be manipulated.  What’s been done is done, and the consequences are now inevitable, whatever they may be.  When you got openly and explosively angry, Tommy Davis failed in his handling of you.  They could not truly control the public perception of your behavior, beyond some attempts to spin it in the follow-up press.  He lost his primary leverage on you — your investment in maintaining professional composure, even in the midst of utter insanity of a most provocative kind.  

    More importantly, it humanized you, and gave a resonance to the claims of scientology’s abuse.  Personally, all I could think was, “it’s about time”. It affirmed, for me, what I have known for so long about the toxic nature of the COS.  You might have preferred not to lose control that way, I’m sure.  You might have assumed such behavior on camera would corrode your image as a professional and competent reporter, even cost you your job.  A reasonable assumption, but the reality was the exact reverse.  Your previous work, your name and reputation, caused your audience to respond to your outburst by looking more closely, to see what in the world could make BBC’s John Sweeney explode with such rage.  As a direct result, so many people have seen your reports on the COS, and the aura of weird intensity that hovers over the cult is increased.  I’d say your reporter’s instincts served you well that day!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Very nicely said… I could not have expressed it myself, but I wholeheartedly agree!

    • DodoTheLaser

      What a great comment/message to Mr. Sweeney! Thank you, CV! I subscribe to that entirely.

      It is a part of “operating standard procedure” for scientology members to find one’s weaknesses
      and utilize/capitalize them for what’s perceived to be “pro-survival”. It permeates the whole thing,
      every level of operation, from a “stress test table”, OCA test and Dianetics all the way to a lousy OT VIII.

      It’s truly confused leading confused. End of rant.

    • i-Betty

      Beautifully and sensitively written. I hope Sweeney reads it :)

      • Chocolate Velvet

        Thanks. I hope other reporters read it as well. How hard does the COS have to try to cover up their evil actions, when reporters willingly gag themselves out of fear and/or discomfort?

        I bow to Tony Ortega, John Sweeney and the other giants around this story like Cooper, Behar, Sappell, et al. Some stories demand a lot of you as a reporter, and the cream rises to the top.

        If more journalists were willing to face the pressure and react like human beings when the crazy starts, people would get it. So much human communication is non-verbal. It is far more convincing than any words, to witness the genuine impact of Hubbard’s dirty tricks policies. Scientology trades on dehumanizing its marks, and its critics. Thus, our humanity is our most powerful weapon against this dangerous cult. When a reporter with a solid reputation is willing to go there, to get the story across, we all win.

        • http://profiles.google.com/rsvp.fete Jerim Sams

          I hope Alan Boyle of NBC (MSNBC Cosmc Log) reads it. His story today is shameful the way it discredits John Sweeney and perpetrates the Scientology PR line. Did NBC swallow it hook line and sinker? Or is Boyle just ignorant on the back-story and reality behind all this? Boyle may be correct that the archival vault is not an alien cathedral — but using sensationalizing sources as a way to discredit the hard facts behind what John Sweeney is exposing is simply poor journalism, ignorant and untrustworthy.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Another Ditto, CV.
      Very well put.

    • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

      Brilliant CV!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Hear, hear, CV.. and I think Sweeney’s audience was able to empathize and imagine themselves in his position.. I thought he showed great restraint.. I’d have smacked that smirk off master archer..

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Oh yeah….I would of loved to smack Archer at that moment. What a bitch!

        oops…I was thinking of MOM not spawn.

        • sugarplumfairy

          How about one of those three stooges smacks? The 3-for-1 shots? We can get mom, jr. and kirstey all for the price of one smack..

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Hell to the YES!

          • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

            Wanna borrow my brass knuckles?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol..I’m afraid my bark is a lot worse than my left hook..

      • Midwest Mom

        Every English teacher in the world, and Midwest Mom, should have the right to slap Tommy Davis silly for his misuse of the word “real” as an adverb.

        “I’m angry. REAL angry!”:

        ///Slap!!!.

    • http://profiles.google.com/rsvp.fete Jerim Sams

      Applause to Chocolate Velvet, and ditto.

    • grundoon

      Lawyers and judges are especially vulnerable to this kind of pressure.

  • Patty Moher

    “But never, ever in all my times in all those wars have I felt under such harrowing psychological pressure as I did inside the brainwashing section of the Church of Scientology’s exhibition, ‘Psychiatry: The Industry of Death’ on Sunset Boulevard in LA in the spring of 2007″

    To me, that says it all. John Sweeney experienced the harrowing psychological pressure that Scientology can and will produce if you speak out against them. It explains why so few have spoken up for so long. The terror that’s instilled in Scientologists can be very difficult to overcome. Many thanks to Tony, John Sweeney Lawrence Wright and others that stand up and rattle and expose the Scientology cult.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Yep. Scientology – false promises, placebo/manipulation, mind control and harassment combined.
      PTSD in the making.

  • Dean Fox

    John Sweeney is awesome, I’d buy him a beer anytime.

  • dwayners13

    I remember watching the first report he did on Scientology & thinking the church wasn’t really helping it’s image by following this reporter or suddenly popping up wherever he’s at. It was simply ‘creepy’, especially considering they seemed oblivious that it was creepy. Considering the church was trying to reform their image as a vindictive, paranoid & secretive cult, stalking a reporter & interrupting his report wasn’t going to sway opinion way from that perception. If anything, they adding to it. Actually the church hurts itself a lot in this way, perhaps because they are condition to respond in only one way, the way in which LRH told them to. YouTube is filled with Scientologists reacting to protesters in ways which add to the very image they are trying to shake. Just look at how many problems Miscavige has made even worse by his reaction to it, for example; his decision to stop paying the 2 PI’s who threaten to sue & spill the beans ended with them getting more money or Debbie Cook only to drop it when he realized it was providing her with a perfect forum to tell her story of violence & being locked up. How about “Squirrel Busters” (no explanation needed as to the creepy/wierd factor there) and finally hitting people who make him made &/or throwing them in a locked & guarded double wide trailor.
    I would’ve like to have been in the room when they discussed how they should deal with these problems, just to see how people came up with them or responded to these ‘solutions’ when he first thought them up. ‘Hey, I got an idea, I call it “Squirrel Busters” . . . .
    As long as the church is led by Miscavige & relies on Hubbard’s only playbook for addressing anyone who is critical, they will always reinforce the very image they seek to overcome.

    • grundoon

      I would’ve like to have been in the room when they discussed how they
      should deal with these problems, just to see how people came up with
      them or responded to these ‘solutions’ when he first thought them up.
      ‘Hey, I got an idea, I call it “Squirrel Busters” . . .

      The discussion goes like this:

      Yessir! Right away, sir!

      (… repeat to EP)

  • Sokramor

    His book is only 3,50€ on German Amazon! I will now spend the next hours reading…

    • 1subgenius

      I think the price point is brilliant. Very fair, yet hopefully will make Mr. Sweeney a ton of money.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Yah, brilliant.. even active staffers might be able to afford it..

  • Vistaril

    Thank you, John. You honour Shawn Lonsdale, you make Leonard proud ( as if he wasn’t already), and you stand by Truth even in the face of Evil made manifest. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

  • 1subgenius
  • http://www.facebook.com/pedrofcuk Pete Griffiths

    John Sweeney is a legend and he doesn’t need to feel embarrassed about blowing his top, it was understandable and totally cool by me.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    “Aussies are just British convicts who left a while ago,”

    ^^^ God I am so in love with this guy…
    ROTFLMAO

  • i-Betty

    I haven’t been able to put my Kindle down! Thank goodness I don’t have much to do today. I’m a very fast reader and I’m a good way through already so I have written a 5 star review on amazon.co.uk to hopefully encourage others to give The Church of Fear a try. I wrote:

    “Utterly compelling. Our own John Sweeney is practically revered in the United States for the investigations he has undertaken to expose the terrifying cult of Scientology which, because of America’s enshrined sense of religious freedom, has been allowed to enter the mainstream with barely a whimper of protest. It’s thanks to the courage of investigative reporters like Sweeney, Paulette Cooper, Tony Ortega, and others, and recent high profile articles in Rolling Stone and Vanity Fair magazines that the abuses of the ‘church’ are now so widely recognised. This is one truly scary (and powerful, and wealthy beyond imagining) cult, made famous by its policy of love-bombing (with a view to ensnaring) celebrities like Tom Cruise, John Travolta, Kirstie Alley, to name but a few.

    In this book, Sweeney discusses the making of his original CoS documentary where he famously exploded in rage on-screen in response to intense psychological warfare from a church determined to crush his investigation and, subsequently, have him fired from the BBC. It’s a testament to Sweeney that he refused to back down, despite admitting to being more afraid at that time than he had ever been when reporting from war zones around the globe, and the groundbreaking Panorama documentary, ‘Scientology and Me’ (and the follow-up, ‘The Secrets of Scientology’), was the result.

    Seriously fascinating stuff. Highly recommended to fans of secretive cult exposés, cracking investigative journalism, and free speech.”

    Get reviewing, folks! Let’s spread the word. Love to you all.

    • 1subgenius

      I am warming up to begin reading.
      Gonna find a nice leather chair, fireplace, maybe make some hot chocolate. (I make the world’s best…..real chocolate grated, melted in milk, brown sugar, pinch of salt….umami)
      I better have some food on hand, because I believe I too won’t be able to put this book down.

  • i-Betty

    Aww, my message didn’t post. Could it be because I included a web link to my amazon review of Church of Fear?

    • Midwest Mom

      I see it, Betty. It’ posted. :)

      • i-Betty

        Thank you, MM :) How strange that I can’t see it, although I can view the message you replied to. x

        • 1subgenius

          Very hard to find posts sometimes in this system.

  • 1subgenius

    The book’s title is brilliant, on a par with “The Jungle”.

    Don’t mince words, you’re a writer for god’s sake, and the subject is pure evil.

    The opening line in the intro, “Welcome to the Church of Fear.”

    Chilling invitation into what promises to be a wild and scary trip.

    You almost don’t want to go, but you can’t stop yourself.

    Like a train wreck. No one wants to be in one, but everyone wants to see one.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    ‘A new book coming out today by BBC newsman John Sweeney makes use of secret electronic communications that portray Scientology’s leader, David Miscavige, berating his underlings in texts with phrases like “You Suck!” and “Counter-Intentional Cock Sucker!” and “You Suck Cock on Hollywood Boulevard!” ‘

    This is priceless! A supposed ecclesiastical leader of a religion speaking in terms that would make a sailor blush. What we need is an actual recording of this dwarf douche-bag screaming out these obscenities. He has such a distinct voice that it would be hard to fake.

    I believe him when he says that he felt more fear reporting on this cult than he did on when he was in a war-zone.
    In the short time I was involved in this cult I felt that fear and breaking away from it almost paralyzed me.

    • Poison Ivy

      I’m sure there are recordings – don’t his communicators follow him around taping everything he says to transcribe later? What a treasure trove that would be, to find that secret cache!

      • Observer

        I imagine it would be simultaneously hilarious and horrifying.

      • grundoon

        No doubt the recordings are archived for posterity in the underground vaults.

    • Rick Mycroft

      I wonder how secret those communications are. What happens when the next exec to leave Scientology takes their phone with them?

  • Sid Snakey

    I can’t exactly remember when I first became aware of the corrupt CofS, but I think it may well have been the first John Sweeney documentary.

    I remember watching it and thinking how creepy Tommy Davis was (he was BORN to play the bad guy) and that clearly John Sweeney was on to something. I remember watching him blowing up and thinking I wasn’t surprised given the level of provocation he had received from this so-called Church.

    I remember thinking that any organization behaving in such a way must have something to hide, might even have LOTS to hide….and Google became my friend.

    So…thanks are due to John Sweeney for making the documentary so memorable, to Tommy Davis for making John Sweeney make the documentary so memorable, and to David Miscavige for making Tommy Davis make John Sweeney make the documentary so memorable.

    In retrospect I imagine David Miscavige was delighted with the “exploding tomato” routine, and I can only imagine the pressure the church placed on the BBC and its board of governors to try and get him sacked.

    But, as usual, this has all backfired horribly – Sweeney’s outburst only made the documentary more widely seen, and the villain of the piece was never John Sweeney. It also resulted in the second documentary and now this book.

    It’s almost as if David Miscavige is a violent sociopath with a Napoleon complex and a high-school education exercising absolute power over frightened members of a mind-control cult created by a dead science fiction writer. Oh, hang on…

    • Observer

      Isn’t DM a high-school dropout? Who needs a formal education when you can work directly with Mankind’s Greatest Friend anyway?

      • 1subgenius

        He IS a high school dropout. A fact which should be reported more often.

        Oh, and he’s really short and effeminate. For which he overcompensates wildly.

        He has a twin sister.

        That had to be a rather Freudian childhood.

  • AnonymousSP

    This is going to be so good! I pre-ordered a couple of copies and can’t wait to get them. Spoilers, please!

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    David Miscavige’s new title should be TPMP(The Potty Mouthed Pope).

    • Midwest Mom

      PMP makes me think of the word “pimp”.

      Dwarfy Miscavige is pimpin’ a religion,
      He’s cruisin’ with Cruise on Sunset going fishin’.
      Five inch heels boost their hairy Hobbit feet,
      Sportin’ matching red Manolos as they’re struttin’ down the street.

      • InTheNameOfXenu

        PMP sounds much better and sounds like ‘pimp’, because that’s the exact mentality this dwarf has…a mind of a bullying pimp.

      • grundoon

        uuugh … brain bleach … i need it now

      • Sokramor

        P-M-P, I’m lie-namite…

        • grundoon

          Watch me explode!

  • Deckard__Cain

    It landed in my PC Kindle app this morning. I am loving it so far.

  • http://www.AlanzosBlog.com/ Alanzo

    I just read the Introduction to John Sweeney’s book, “The Church of Fear, Inside the Weird World of Scientology”.

    http://www.amazon.com/The-Church-Fear-Inside-Scientology/dp/1909269034/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1357572989&sr=8-1&keywords=john+sweeney+scientology

    Anyone who has ever read this blog, or any other article or website or blog on Scientology, HAS to get this book.

    John Sweeney gets it. He really really gets it.

    It is so good to have someone in his position who gets it! We need many more people like John Sweeney in the highest positions of media and government who get what Scientology is all about.

    I can’t tell you how deeply satisfying it is to know that Ex-Scientologists and those who have been harmed by Scientology are finally being heard, and understood. Since their inception, Scientology has been able to destroy anyone who spoke out about them. Those days are coming to a close.

    Thank you John Sweeney for being afraid and for going ahead and doing it anyway, This is the very definition of courage. And it is your courage which makes you, and your book, so valuable.

    Now, I am on to the rest of the book!

    Alanzo

    • Poison Ivy

      Alanzo, I take your recommendations seriously…of course I’ll read the book, but hearing your praise of just the intro gives it even more weight in my eyes.

    • 1subgenius

      “….being afraid and for going ahead and doing it anyway, This is the very definition of courage.”

      So true. If you’re not afraid when you should be you’re just stupid. And if you’re not afraid, and act, its not courage.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        That was very well said, Sir.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      agreed.

  • Oyster Bay

    It takes a lot to make me feel uncomfortable – but that Psychiatry Industry of Death museum succeeded in making me feel as if I needed an acid bath to cleanse off the insanity once I was through it. The zombie at the end of the tour who said to me in a droning, unemotional voice, “Bring others.” didn’t help matters.

    I understand completely why, after days of being stalked by these wackos, Mr. Sweeney would lose his level of calm the way he did – especially in those surroundings that are full of the most blatant historical lies I’ve seen.

    I ordered a print version from Amazon.co.uk as I am happier reading actual books. I can’t wait to get it – I know it’s going to be riveting.

  • Deckard__Cain

    WARNING to those reading this book. DO NOT READ WHILE EATING. You may find pieces of your food flying out of your mouth from laughter.

    This part got me – “By battering seeds with X-rays, Dr Hubbard can either reduce a plant through its stages of evolution or advance it.’”

    Sweeney, John (2013-01-07). The Church of Fear (Kindle Locations 229-230). Silvertail Books. Kindle Edition.

    • Deckard__Cain

      Here’s another gem:

      “wedding rite scripted by L Ron, calling on all those present to note, ‘girls need clothes and food and tender happiness and frills, a pan, a comb, perhaps a cat.’ The Book of Common Prayer it is not.”

      Sweeney, John (2013-01-07). The Church of Fear (Kindle Locations 434-435). Silvertail Books. Kindle Edition.

      Again, someone give Sweeney an award NOW.

      • califa007

        Hey! It beats the hell out of Honor & Obey! I thought it was rather cute in a Medieval sort of way.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Is that you or the Cat talking? ;)

          • califa007

            Yeah, that cat thing got to me; not so much the pan ;)

  • Anononyourside

    I am about 1/3 through the book, and although I have heard most of the stories already, it still left me horrified. Miscavige and his complete lack of civilized behavior is reminiscent of the behavior of the worst of the bullies in “The Lord of the Flies.” Sweeney deserves praise for only blowing up at Davis once. Hopefully, this book will be a best seller and serve as the “straw” that breaks the “camel’s” back.

    • Trustmeonthis

      Hey, Anononyourside, I totally agree.
      And if you are part of (or in communication with) knightsec, good work.

  • dagobarbz

    It’s a weird feeling, knowing that there’s a target on your back and some big, evil cult behind it. You know they’re out there, probably up to something to try and fuck up your life. Thing is, they’re so stupid about it, they often fail.

    Like when they called my mom to tell her my dad’s porno order was in at the Adult Bookstore…silliness!

  • BosonStark

    Thanks to John Sweeney for writing a book about his experiences reporting on this cult. I always wondered what was going on in the back of the minds of Behar and Miller, when they wrote their article/book, and since John Sweeney had to hold back so much — restrain himself on so many levels — it’s definitely worthy of a book.

    When Anne Archer said, “Do I look brainwashed to you?” — I might have said:

    “No Anne, you look like an aging Hollywood star — be it relatively minor — who lives in a celebrity bubble, while belonging to a mind-control cult that sells BS about Xenu the Evil Galactic Overlord for hundreds of thousands of dollars and indentures children in the Sea Org to sell this crap. You belong to a cult where you can’t even talk about the basics of what you believe at the upper levels, and why you really need Scientology according to Hubbard — to get rid of clusters of alien souls that are clinging to you.”

    • http://twitter.com/sandyshores50 Sunny Sands

      Along the same line of thought, I wonder how celebrities, or any public, can go to Flag and pay the big bucks for training. At the same time, they know that the people waiting on them, landscaping the grounds, manning the doorways and reception areas, cleaning their rooms, and a thousand other jobs, are making $50 per week and living packed like sardines in little motel rooms. They are served by slaves and they don’t care.

      • EnthralledObserver

        They claim they don’t know/that it’s not true… that’s what some of the ones who have left have claimed, anyway… that they didn”t know at the time, and finding that out was in some cases what woke them up. But I wonder if that’s true for all of them.

        • Anononyourside

          How convenient for the celebrities. Many of them, such as Kirstie Alley, have been told, and they ignore the issue. If I was told that I was benefitting from the abuse and slave labor of others I would investigate and not stop until I learned the truth, then I would do something about it. This issue will blow up in their faces and will forever tarnish them.

          • nevarmore

            “This issue will blow up in their faces and will forever tarnish them.” (Anon)
            let us fervently work on making it so…

    • DodoTheLaser

      Dear Annie Archer, being able to ask “Do I look brainwashed to you?”, does not mean you are not. ML.

  • Deckard__Cain

    Sweeney holds NO punches when it comes to Rinder. No punches.

    “Tommy was the smart, rich guy who almost certainly was the baddie; Mike had all the hallmarks of the bloke who gets gruesomely murdered in the first five minutes.”

    Sweeney, John (2013-01-07). The Church of Fear (Kindle Locations 485-486). Silvertail Books. Kindle Edition.

  • http://www.facebook.com/kim.obrien.775 Kim O’Brien

    “Counter-Intentional Cock Sucker” LOL….how do you say that in Chinese ?…Plus…does that mean that a person sucks cock counter intentionally ? Or that the cock itself is counter-intentional ? I got called a liberal cock sucker once …still do not know if that meant i suck cock liberally or that i only suck liberal cock. So confusing …if only there was a scientology course i could take that would clear it up for me ;)

    • EnthralledObserver

      An ‘MU” (Misunderstood word)… LOL You really need to get that seen to you SP!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It depends if you’re on Hollywood Blvd at the time or in a Hole.

    • DeElizabethan

      Sure, the Ethics course, then RPF.

  • stillgrace

    Wow. My kindle version arrived just after midnight. After getting up early to read, I’m on Chapter 3, and upset that I have to stop and deal with work! I am used to thinking of Xenu as a galactic overlord or a galactic emperor. Mr. Sweeney calls Xenu a “space alien Satan”, which is deliciously apropos! I can’t wait to return to the book!

    I humbly submit two possible errata entries for the book:
    Location 297: should “23 years before I joined the BBC” actually be “13 years before I joined the BBC” ?
    Location 333: “the inland Revenue Service” = “the Internal Revenue Service”

  • BosonStark

    About Laurisse Stuckenbrock relaying the the foul language code messages to Rinder and/or Davis via text messaging, that’s similar to Hubbard with his Commodore’s Messengers who would chew out members of the Sea Org on the ship, repeating the Commodore’s tone when he gave the order.

    Miscavige uses it to deny responsibility — create levels of protection — but Hubbard used it knowing that if he screamed his “corrections” at others personally, they might leave or be less in awe of him. In that way, it was a level of protection for him too. On the Apollo ship, members who were accused by Hubbard personally of something they didn’t do often woke up and left. They realized he wasn’t as wise or all-knowing as they were supposed to believe.

  • Mrs Libnish

    I LOVE the quotes at the beginning “Some people, well, if they don’t like Scientology, well, then, fuck you. Really. Fuck you. Period.” Tom Cruise.

    So eloquently put Mr. Cruise, and no…fuck YOU!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Tom Cruise has the vocabulary of an empty cat food can.

      • Observer

        And approximately the same IQ and depth of character.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          a “hollow”gram?

          • Observer

            Exactly! *snicker*

        • EnthralledObserver

          “an empty shell who can only parrot others”
          Perfect attributes for an ACTOR, but not good for much else.

      • ze moo

        I finally saw Tom Cruise on the BBCs ‘Graham Norton Show’. Tom was on for about 15 minutes and was some what subdued, compared to his Oprah couch jumping days. His eyes looked funny too in a raccoon sort of way. Either bad makeup or he had ‘eye jowls’ removed in the recent past. He did have a few good jokes and plugged his up coming movies. Nothing special…….

        • Midwest Mom

          I thought bags under the eyes were bad, but eye jowls sound like something Jabba the Hut would have, doesn’t it? (a.k.a. “Jabba Jowls”"?) I’m glad I missed Tom’s appearance – his laugh scares me – it’s too forced.

    • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

      Ewww. No thank you. I think I need a bleach shower just at the thought of it.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Can you imagine a member of any religion replying to criticism in that fashion?!
      Me neither. Tom, so edgy, self-righteous and cool. Or so he thinks.

      But hey, LRH said to never defend and to always attack! Just like he attacked some poor Mexican island with no enemies present and non-existent Japanese submarines, when he was Ron The War Hero.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dianne.lipson Dianne Lipson

    Miscavige is using his “communicator” Laurisse as a cut-out the same way Hubbard used his wife Mary Sue. And Mary Sue took the fall. Miscavige learned from the master.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

    Downloaded and started reading. God read. Have to make sure I put in time limits so that I get some work done today.

  • http://www.facebook.com/dianne.lipson Dianne Lipson

    I can understand why Tommy Davis came off as the perfect bad guy. The combination of giving his soul to an evil cult, and his aging curdled pretty-boy looks, produced this ugliness.

  • California

    Last night, during CBS5, San Francisco Bay Area, airing of “The Good Wife,” a SCN commercial appeared.

    Looking back into the archives, I found this, from almost a year ago: http://www.nypost.com/p/entertainment/tv/church_ad_odd_wife_spot_UiwqQaNkQhhjU0DEXTKdLM

    where the commercial appeared during a show where a SCN’er was featured. This was not the case last night.

    Is anyone else seeing any commercials on any of the major or minor networks, now?

    Sweeney is a hero!

  • It All Comes Out

    I’m buying multiple copies of this and the other books exposing the truth about scientology and donating some to local libraries. Congratulations to John Sweeney for feeling the fear and doing it anyway! I applaud him. Thanks for the article, Tony – very important reporting, as always.

  • 0tessa

    John Sweeney: I can hardly imagine the psycho terror you had to endure. I believe you when you say you were so scared. I have but the greatest admiration for your endurance and courage. You are truly an investigative journalist. You are a honor to your profession. CHAPEAU!
    God bless you!

  • Captain Howdy

    “Aussies are just British convicts who left a while ago,”

    No, they are actually mostly Irish “convicts” followed by Scotsmen and Welshmen.

    • ze moo

      The Aussies sent troops to Iraq and Afghanistan and they very deftly fixed a nasty situation in East Timor. Their record in Korea and WW2 is quite incredible. Do not anger the aussies, they know how to fight and they shoot quite well. I love their comics and the Paul Hogan type of humor. I just don’t like Fosters that much.

      • 1subgenius

        I love almost everything about Aussies except the accent. Its like nails on a chalkboard to me. Same with (I think it is) our Virginia accent.
        Just me.

      • EnthralledObserver

        No one with any taste likes Fosters, including Aussies. We export it for a reason… :p

    • Captain Howdy
    • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

      Britain.

  • http://www.facebook.com/gayle.smith.3994 Gayle Smith

    It’s incredibly brave of Mr. Sweeney to come out and tell his story, warts and all, knowing the Co$ is still out there. Can’t wait to read it. *checking clock*

  • Chocolate Velvet

    John, please get your book out on iBoks. Fir various reasons, Kindle just does not work for me. Or, I’ll wait for the hard copy edition., if need be.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I hope you figure it out and don’t have to wait too long, CV.. I tired of kindle pretty quickly two years ago, but I fired it up again for Sweeney.. It was worth it.. I’ve only read 5% of the book so far, but I can already tell you it will be worth your wait.. He’s not pulling any punches..

      Here’s his description of st. hill: “St. Hill exudes the atmosphere of a high end psychiatric clinic, the kind of place where billionaires dump their mad aunts.”

      I’m loving this read..

      • BuryTheNuts2

        How did you like his description of Rinder as looking like the guy in the movie that dies in the first five minutes………….snort!

        • sugarplumfairy

          Lol.. And he refers to tommy davis as the son of the actress who’s bunny got boiled in Fatal Attraction..

          • Observer

            Anne Archer’s career has tanked so thoroughly that’s probably the only way most people will know who she is.

    • califa007

      Download a free program called Calibre, as well as the Kindle reading app, to your computer. Calibre will convert the Kindle format to ePub and will even send it to your device from your computer.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

      There is a Kindle app for the iPad, iPhone and the Mac if that helps.

    • moxonmoxoff

      I second the Calibre recommendation.

  • jensting

    Reviewed on Amazon.co.uk (Kindle edition).

    I gave it five stars, and not only because I believe it’s my hat that’s singled out for a flattering description when discussing English protesters :)

  • mook

    FYI: Jenna Elfman is doing a Q&A on Twitter (mainly a promotional effort for her new TV show 1600 Penn, which looks terrible btw). perfect trolling opportunity! (her hubby Bodhi protected his Twitter after Mark Ebner hammered him too many times on true facts about the CoS)

    • BuryTheNuts2

      So has anyone been daring to go “there” yet?

  • ze moo

    Mexico denies Scientology religious association status:

    “In a letter dated December 3, though notification was not issued
    until a week before Christmas, the Directorate of Religious Associations
    of the Secretariat of the Interior declared “inadmissible the
    application for registration as a religious association submitted for
    the Church of Scientology of Mexico” by its president and legal
    representative, Alma Rosa Lugo Anzaldo.”

    http://ocmb.xenu.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?f=11&t=165113

    • Midwest Mom

      Amen!

  • http://www.facebook.com/VictoriaPandora Victoria Pandora

    I am loving this book! I need to send edits though… just little ones, except for John referring to the Kia “Sedona” as the Kia “Sidona” about a dozen times which was almost more than I could take without becoming distracted.

    Ahhhh, I remember when that Sedona came out, named after our “townsake”, or something like that. They gave the city (Sedona, Arizona) a free Kia; Sedona, in the colour of the red rocks. That van had the most beautiful paint job I have ever seen in my life.

    Anyway, back to my point. Can I send little notes to John? Vance Woodward will give me a very fine reference on general edits; He knows that laying on the couch with my cat, reading a good book, really is my life’s calling;)

    • mirele

      I haven’t gotten to the Sidona part yet, but as Sedona is one of my very favorite places, I’m sure it will be quite jarring when I do. Thanks for the warning.

  • California

    Now that made me laugh, this wonderful day.

  • Observer

    “You really are just sp aren’t you? I wqaited to get this crap? I can’t even believe it. You just can’t work or do can you? YS YS YS YS YS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!”

    David Miscavige: esleaziastical … er, ecclesiastical leader of the fastest-growing “church” in this sector, or junior high school girl throwing a hissy fit?

    • Midwest Mom

      I’ve seen some absolutely vicious comments by some Bieber fans and One Direction fans and if you didn’t know better, you would swear they were OSA. Nope. They were 11 year old to 13 year old girls. (Unless Davey is a Bieber & One Direction fan and he’s using different socks for his puppet posts).

    • grundoon

      Floor wax, or dessert topping?

      • Deckard__Cain

        Say hebbo to Tarvuism!

  • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

    Finished the book in one sitting up to midnight last night. Must admit I thought I was getting a bit over books about scientology but loved the new twist on this. I must admit I never saw the Panorama programmes but love how the real time actions of scientology became the story. The new information in the form of electronic communications during the “handling” of the BBC original investigation is still shocking to anyone familiar with Miss Cabbage’s behaviour, as are the sycophantic responses by Tommy and Mike. One thing I did miss (and it may have been there – I may have read over it) is that the “ml” didn’t seem to get explained which I think really heightens the craziness of the correspondence. These guys are getting reamed in texts and their responses are all signed off “Ml” for “much love”. Cra-cra-crazy!

    • grundoon

      L*** was a four-letter word to L. Ron Hubbard.

    • DeElizabethan

      Like F–k you with much love? Insane, right.

  • Anon

    Sweeney’s great courage is shown by (among other things) his willingness to openly admit real fear of batshit crazy Scientology.

  • cultwife

    My first post, though I’ve been reading for months.

    I chose the name “cultwife” because my ex-husband joined a cult 35 years ago and is still in it. Not Scientology—this is when Lyndon LaRouche was at his most dangerous, and I won’t describe the relentless
    brainwash my husband endured after showing interest and the vultures closed in. (Whenever people ask “how could an intelligent person have anything to do with Scientology?” I think of my ex, a sweet, idealistic guy with a near-genius IQ. But he was feeling lost, and somehow the insane Rouchie mindset created a simplified world he felt safe in.) A divorce soon followed (the cult insisted, and so did I. Then they insisted he marry another Rouchie.)

    I saw a lot of things I won’t bore you with, but this cult’s similarity to what Scientologists and their families experience is startling. So, when I began to have nightmares and “grief dreams” about my ex last year, it has helped to read about Scientology and the people who have left it. Ortega’s work has been my touchstone … so thank you to Tony, and all the ex-Scientologists here…. Incredible bravery to get the hell out.

    When I see John Sweeney explode at T. Davis, I feel like I’m seeing, in a single blast, all the pain and rage that I’d buried for years. It’s like watching a primal scream, and yes, I related. So I want to thank him for helping me finally release my tears. I had my own taste of harassment—far, far less than Sweeney experienced–and was quiet, relaxed and stoic in the face of it, which my harassers found disappointing. But these new nightmares, decades later, show that I wasn’t as relaxed as I thought (I was probably in denial) and that the cult’s actions toward me are an unhealed wound. Whatever wall I’d built against feeling the trauma all the way has fallen. And that feels much better. Looking back, the whole thing seems like The Invasion of the Body Snatchers. Physically, the guy looked like my husband, but he wasn’t my husband. In other words, two things happened at the same time: a slow-motion death, and a horror movie (the man dies, but the body rises up and walks around, speaking in tongues).

    Back to the point. John Sweeney, if you read this: that footage shows the pathology of that “church” so clearly, and you don’t seem like a victim or a fool. You seem like a human who’s been pushed beyond the bounds of endurance. I don’t care if your reaction is professional or not. Venting in Davis’s face took guts. In that moment, you are relatable to not just people abused by Scientology, but to people whose lives have been twisted by other cults. So you see, you’re heroic.

    To thank the people who’s read this long, self-centered post, The New Yorker has a hilarious short satire regarding Cruise. Of course, Scientology runs right through it: http://www.newyorker.com/humor/2013/01/14/130114sh_shouts_rudnick

    • coonellie

      Bless you! I’m so glad you wrote and welcome (from the far-off peanut gallery).

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That was NOT self centered.
      That is why we are here.
      To fight it. To whine. To moan and groan. To laugh. To prop each other up. To read Tony O’s awesome blog and then follow it up with our own…..uh….stuff.
      To share our stories and limp through this together. And of course to mock the hell out of Scientology.
      Welcome.

    • Sherbet

      Welcome, cultwife. Be prepared to shed more tears, but we’ll also make you laugh at the same time.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Cultwife, That NewYorker piece was pretty funny…

      Sample from questionaire:

      6. If you left three monkeys alone in a room with a pair of mirrored aviator sunglasses and a leather bomber jacket, would they eventually write a sequel to “Top Gun” or would they just form a Village People tribute band?

    • 1subgenius

      Scientology is not the only mind control cult enslaving people around the world.
      They’re all bad.

      • cultwife

        And the people who join them aren’t foolish or dumb. I hate that “blame the victim” attitude. They were just in the wrong place, exposed to the wrong things, at the wrong time.

        • Lurkness

          Exactly!!!! See this EXCELLENT panel discusion by former Moonie and Scientologists that explains how cults do it and notes that highly intelligent people are often drawn to them. Click the download button, then click on file to play….. It’s in three parts, here is part 1 and the other 2 parts can be found there.

          http://vimeo.com/12194329

    • 1subgenius

      Awesome New Yorker piece. I love those guys.

    • Anononyourside

      Welcome cultwife, you will find other people here who have survived, or suffered because of, other cults besides the Church of Scientology. A cult is a cult is a cult…. I hope you find some answers here. BTW, did your ex ever wake up and leave LaRouche?

      • cultwife

        He hasn’t left. It’s been over 30 years and at over 60 years old now, and is one of LaRouche’s most passionate advocates. Dirt poor, of course, and moving from city to city as ordered, at least once squatting in abandoned buildings. That said, LaRouche’s paranoia doesn’t extend to creating a massive bureaucracy, and LaRouche, who (IIRC) is now over 90) won’t live forever. I’m not sure the Rouchies can continue afterward.

        And thank you, everyone, for the lovely welcomes.

    • Midwest Mom

      Thanks for posting your story, CW, and for the link to the hilarious New Yorker piece. I appreciate the personal perspective you gave – it sounds like you have been experiencing post traumatic stress disorder, like some others who post here. I’m glad that you have been able to find some kindred spirits and camaraderie at this site and look forward to reading more of your comments. Welcome!

      • cultwife

        You know, post-traumatic stress disorder never occurred to me. Things are coming into focus inch by inch, I’m afraid.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          I went down the ” Lyndon LaRouche ” rabbit hole for about a half hour…That was all it took for me to see the “mini me” similarities.
          You are in the right place cultwife.

          • Deckard__Cain

            I just started to go down that rabbit hole too when I saw your comment. I’ve read the name before but never knew much about this freak. If I’ve learned anything about humanity is that there is NO shortage of crazy cult leaders.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              No shit…I remembered it because my Dad had a special hatred for this guy…
              Oh Vey…I got more reading than brain cell capacity….
              Deck…there are not enough airports in the GAL-AXE-EE

            • Deckard__Cain

              You made me chuckle…..Hubbard’s spoken cadence and pronouncement of certain words was so strange, no?

              Gaah–LAX–EE. Whasssamadder-yooou-haaat?

              I read somewhere that historically and sociologically there’s always been a certain number of crazy leaders per capita, just not enough gullible followers to make cults. That cults happen when certain national, local, or otherwise larger events create enough gullible followers. The 60s sure produced a lot of gullible followers for all types of sadistic leaders. Some were just better than others at keeping the followers, I suppose.

            • Lurkness

              LOL. A youtube collection in LRH’s own words and voice–from gaah-lax-eee to whas madder you hat…..
              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iQ0_vDPT2TE

            • Lurkness

              Also like this video that takes the South Park episode and uses LRH’s own words to confirm that episode’s facts and refute one of Tommy Davis’s many lies on CNN…..

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7EEOMbBIO8

            • DeElizabethan

              BTN, sounds like you have lots to write. Little by little as most books are written, then put together if wanted. A new adventure in your life and just take your time and go with your own flow, so to speak.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Thanks Dee,
              I think I am going to start writing it…in essays.
              It will be good for me to do it.

            • DeElizabethan

              Yes essays, that’s the word.

          • ze moo

            LaRouche spent 5 years in federal prison. Let’s see if we can better for Davey….

            • Anononyourside

              LaRouche was very much like Davey. He loved money and turned the focus of his entire organization into money, money and more money. His fundraisers would call people at all hours and had quotas similar to the CoS. LaRouche lived very well with horses, swimming pools, chefs, the best food and wine, and wine stewards. He also claimed to have no knowledge about how money was being raised. The Feds raided his home and offices and he went to jail for five years, after trying to pin the blame on other people. Let’s hope there’s a raid in Davey’s future.

        • DeElizabethan

          Thanks for sharing your story Cultwife. I love what you say about John. I think you got it right, inch, by inch or day by day, whatever it is, you will get through it and these guys and Tony O’s Bunker will help you. I know since they helped me. Keep speaking up and you will see the benefit.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Scientology and any other type of organization that cultivates an environment of fear is “The Invasion of the Mind Snatchers”. Sorry you experienced the horror of waking up to the shock a familiar face but with a cold stone where the heart used to be. Most people have experienced this nightmare via drugs or gambling or other addictions. What is so unearthly is that cults actually Use the power of addiction and cultivate it and network it into a web of such strength that it is hard to understand if you’ve never been caught in it or known someone who was. Latent nightmares…not usual at all. Good for you for educating yourself about them and speaking up. That and buckets of popcorn and chocolate I’ve heard helps a lot too.

    • 1subgenius

      My fave:

      “A Scientologist is just a Mormon with an agent.”

      I’m so stealing that.

      • Deckard__Cain

        “A Scientologist is just a Mormon with an ethically challenged lawyer, Private Investigator, and with an agent.”

        Fixed for you. Mormons are a lot of things, but sadistically going after its critics with twisted attorneys and PIs does not really describe their flavor of evil.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I call Bullshit!….As someone who has been influenced by both….the Mormons are 1/150 as dangerous.
        Those guys got Nothin…NOTHIN on LRH!

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robert-Eckert/100002715429426 Robert Eckert

      I knew somebody a long time ago who had lost friends to the Larouchies. Slowly they have dwindled away but it always gives me the creeps to see one of their literature tables. Strange how all cults end up with similar pathological psychologies, regardless of what “doctrinal” content they push.

      • cultwife

        LaRouche Planet, a very good site, has FAQ’s about Larouche. One of the replies (it’s late, and I forgot the question!) refers to Scientology –” this is not a political organization, it is a cult of personality, a political cult. Therefore members of the cult or associated with it, do not behave “logically” as we would expect them to do if they were “normal”. Why would celebrities like Tom Cruise be member of a cult like Scientology? Our logic does not apply to cults’. They have their own.”

  • Unex Skcus

    Don’t have a Kindle? There’s a free PC Kindle reader available at Amazon: http://www.amazon.com/gp/kindle/pc/download

  • Hermesacat

    What’s with Miscavige’s seeming fixation on multiple variations on the term “cocksucker” used as favourite insults against underlings? Is Dave perhaps in the closet projecting on others proclivities he himself may have but cannot accept in himself, or admit to? And do only the twin “Big Beings” Dave & Tom Cruise know for sure?

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That’s it. I figured it out.
      Dave and Tom both want the Travolta but:
      1. John is way too tall for either of them.
      2. TC and DM’s hands are too small to give really good massages.

      • Trustmeonthis

        Small hands are an advantage for other activities…!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Um, well…uh…yeah…now see, I am seeing all kinds of images now in my head…. :)

          • Trustmeonthis

            It’s a very special kind of Touch Assist!

        • grundoon

          Have DM’s incisors been filed?

          • Trustmeonthis

            Unnecessary. DM (and/or TC) is already at cause over the incisors. (Hey… waitaminnit!)

      • Sandy Rhodes

        A dictator pope named Miscavige
        When asked why the mood-swings so savage
        Said “Cruise I have had
        And he wasn’t half-bad
        But Travolta I’d much rather ravage”

    • grundoon

      Q. What does David Miscavige think about every minute of every day?

      • Deckard__Cain

        Being beaten by little pickles. That’s what he thinks about all day long.

  • Sherbet

    It’s 7:20 EST. I’ve read two chapters of John’s book. In a creepy coincidence, librarian son (that would be Doogie Howser, Midwest Mom) came home from work with a new book — Ron, Literary Correspondence — that arrived, unrequested, from Bridge Publications today. He thought I’d get a kick out of it. My “creep-out and revulsion” quotient has achieved critical mass. I must take a break from the nastiness, the space cooties, the visual loop of Tommy Davis shouting like a DI at Parris Island, the lies, the anger, the injustice. Off I go to give my brain a break. Sometimes I just have to step away from all things scientological. I’ll catch you all later.

    • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

      Must share some scanned images and tidbits Sherbet

    • Midwest Mom

      I know what you mean. It’s a lot to handle, isn’t it? I give everyone so much credit who has lived through all of this stuff and can survive with their sense of humor intact. Sweet dreams, Sherbet.:)

    • DodoTheLaser

      That’s funny, Sherbet! I understand the creepy factor (believe me),
      but I hope you can see it that way too. Humor is the best medicine.
      And love. Thank you for sharing with us! Enjoy your life :)

  • Trustmeonthis

    Actually, the folks at the synagogue will send you away twice, first!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    I wonder if Tommy Davis downloaded this book to his kindle yet?
    I wonder if Tommy Davis feels any remorse for any of his behavior while in his position as chief DM butt sucking rat?
    I wonder how Tommy Davis would have looked with a twirly if John Sweeney had stuck his head in a toilet and flushed it.

    • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

      That’s what I kept thinking about BTN – the CRINGE factor for Tommy (and Anne and Kristie etc). His self-deprecating responses to Miss Cabbage – oh the horror, the horror.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I’m going to guess Tommy couldn’t stomach looking at himself in a mirror that doesn’t reflect his self image. Ever. And I’d also guess if any of those pesky human emotions start leaking, he’ll just plug those holes up with a new golf bag, salve over with an overnight Paris shopping spree, and cover it all up with a new tan.

  • Deckard__Cain

    I read about 90% of this book so far (mostly skimming through the parts I already knew such as book summaries of Scobee’s and Hawkins’ books) and I couldn’t put it down. Yes, it had me guffawing at some parts but once the absurdity wears off you see what Sweeney sees – a very disturbing portrait of a dangerous, destructive and totalitarian organization that ruins lives in our very own backyards.

    Sweeney sees what all of us Scientology Watchers have seen for years, and for this I feel justified by the amount of time and paranoia I’ve put into it myself. I really hope the larger media takes notice and starts digging further.

  • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

    My last visit to Amazon a saw a flash somewhere that had this book at the top of books about scientology….anyone know where to find rankings and sales info on Amazon?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just finished Sweeney’s “Church of Fear”. He coins a new one: “Going Tomato”. Heh, which will be followed by Wright’s “Going Clear” and then Jenna Miscavige Hills’ book which sounds like it could be subtitled “Going Home”.

    It’s the perfect first round of salvo, or the fired shot signalling the start of the Olympic games. It’s a familiar detail of the inner workings of the Kafkaesque sinister arm of scientology and it’s top marauders. Against this backdrop of exact incidents over a winding journey across countries and timelines, scientology official denials and bizarre answering statements (much like the recent Joe Sappel response) begins to echo the distant refrains of the Nuremberg transcripts at its worst, and scenes straight out of Orwell’s “1984″ novel, line for line, at best.

    Sweeney takes you through every excruciating blow by blow play leading up to his “Going Tomato” in such painstaking steps that readers might leave that chapter with a taste of the trauma he was dragged through by a well trained, well drilled team of scientology enforcers. I also appreciated the fact that he came up with yet another kind of hole, which he called Mind Holes.

    I came away feeling very American and understanding the depth of crazy and cynicism we have come to accept as norm. John Sweeney brands his own humorous stamps on all things scientological and that alone is worth the read. Besides “Going Tomato”, he offers us (paraphrasing) “a worm’s eye view of the belly of the beast”. There’s “Posh Tommy and Zombie Mike”, Holy Socks and Smashed Martians, “heading for a video shoot-out in the OK Corral” and then he talks of his producer, Mole (yep) who was educated on the OSA before sending him out and predicted:

    “You’re going to be like the tethered goat in Jurassic Park, bleating as the Tyrannosaurus Rex comes to get you. All you have to do is bleat. You can bleat, can’t you? I told her I could.”

    But throughout the book Sweeney uses the term “Space Alien Satan” to coin the essence of scientology’s evil, referring to Xenu as the center of it all and hints at the earliest Hubbard Crowley/Satan connection. In the end, all I could think of is the irony that scientology has been defeated by science, and perhaps has created the ultimate hole, a Black Hole, that may eventually suck in all churches of fear. Satan = mental illness and someday religious faith of protection from a devil’s evil will be replaced by scientific cures for a human disease.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Bleat! Bleat, bleat!
      :D

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Bleating Hearts and Exploding Tomatoes…no one ever said scientology caused terminal boredom.

        • grundoon

          Check out the Introspection Rundown.

          • DeElizabethan

            Isn’t that the one that killed Lisa Mcpherson?

    • BuryTheNuts2

      In the end, all I could think of is the irony that scientology has been defeated by science, and perhaps has created the ultimate hole, a Black Hole, that may eventually suck in all churches of fear. Satan = mental illness and someday religious faith of protection from a devil’s evil will be replaced by scientific cures for a human disease.

      ^^^^OH YEAH! I wish I could bold this…. SCIENTOLOGY HAS BEEN DEFEATED BY SCIENCE!

    • http://twitter.com/tetloj tetloj

      Wonderful round up. You have a way of turhing a phrase.

      Going tomato
      Going clear
      Going home

      January 2013 – oh yeah!

    • Midwest Mom

      Nice review! When you said that Sweeney’s producer was “Mole”, do you mean that his producer was a Sci mole planted at the BBC?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Her actual name, per JS!

        • Midwest Mom

          Wowza!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            “Wowza indeed: “Mole is the BBC producer some believe best able to keep me on the professional straight and narrow. Mole (first name: Sarah) is so quietly spoken you can barely hear a word she says and she looks completely harmless. Don’t be fooled: she combines the attributes of Mother Theresa and J.V. Stalin.”

            Sweeney, John (2013-01-07). The Church of Fear (Kindle Locations 438-440). Silvertail Books. Kindle Edition.

            • DeElizabethan

              I see I can and will order the book from Silvertail but I also like amazon. Anyone know if they will be selling the paperback very soon?

    • DeElizabethan

      So love this review, can’t wait to read it. What a fantastic start or rather blast off of the new year with John’s and the two books following. Plus Nancy Many, Claire and others with the radio show and coming on YT will be Margery Wakefield. Think the Crutch of Sintology are or will be in overwhelm?

  • Anononyourside

    Church of Fear is now #1 among Scientology books. While checking its ranking, I noticed a review where the reviewer had said Miscavige was a failed auditor because he hit someone he was counseling and then he was removed from that position. Is this true? If so, it is 3 Stooges material.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yes, he hit a female PC. And he was a young teen at the time.

      • Anononyourside

        That is so beyond acceptable it boggles the mind. He couldn’t counsel one, so he is in charge of thousands. Is there anything this “leader” has NOT failed at?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          While he has failed at so much…the more frightening thing are his successes.
          He is a maniacal sociopath…and yet….????

  • 1subgenius

    Tony better get his out before the fat lady sings. (I once thought the expression was “before the fat lady sinks” which might be more apropos in this instance)
    I gave that advice to Mark Bunker, too. That he better have a Plan B, where its a post-mortem.
    Kinda like “While England Slept”. Showing how many “good” people, agencies, governments, did nothing about the evil around them.
    He ignored me.
    I get that a lot.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      unerstnd.

    • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

      As much as I hope for a quick resolution, I think that the end is not as near as we’d hope and both Tony and Mark have time to bring their perspectives to the fray.

  • DMSTCC

    One of my favorite parts of the ’07 show was David Miscavige defining C0$ in the Ted Koppel interview….

    “Scientology, the word, means study of life, study of knowledge.
    …uuughhh…
    And that’s what it is. It takes up all areas of life itself
    …uuughhh…
    Things are integral and, uh, maxims that are related to life and very existence

    • John P.

      Those nine months of practice for the interview clearly paid off, burnishing a Thetan’s already superior communication abilities to a glossy sheen that mere mortals can’t conceive of.

      • Midwest Mom

        I’ve said it before and I still think that Miscavige looked like one of the members from the 80′s pop group Duran Duran during that interview.

        • Deckard__Cain

          David Miscavige seems to have problems keeping up with trends, both fashion and technology-wise. He still thinks that distributing DVDs is a good idea and didn’t really get to that conclusion until they were on the way out.

      • DMSTCC

        Ted Koppel’s next question should have been; “May I momma dogface in the banana patch?”

        • John P.

          That would have been supremely apt for dealing with David Miscavige if that quote had come from Steve Martin’s album, “Let’s Get Small.” As luck would have it, that line is from “A Wild and Crazy Guy.”

      • Deckard__Cain

        The emperor truly has no clothes. That interview was terrible and Ted Koppel didn’t buy a word of it.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yeah, and DM’s hair looked totally free of body thetans.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gerard-Plourde/1127841398 Gerard Plourde

    This comment by Bruce Hines sums up how difficult the task of reaching true believers in the CO$ is – “When I was in, I was actually in the frame of mind where I would not listen to some critical thing about it. I would immediately dismiss it. I wouldn’t even hear the words really.’”

    Sweeney, John (2013-01-07). The Church of Fear (Kindle Locations 1361-1362). Silvertail Books. Kindle Edition.

    Let’s hope that a ray of reality can penetrate so that they will be open to grasp freedom when it is offered to them.

    • Sid Snakey

      But that also proves that there is a way out – when he was in he wouldn’t hear it, but something changed and now he’s out.

      When dealing with current Scientologists it’s worth remembering this. There’s no value in getting frustrated or upset. When they are in, they are in. We know that many/most Scientologists have personal, private doubts or concerns over the way things are going in the CofS, and there are a whole range of things which can make a Scientologist dare to explore their doubts a bit further.

      That’s why we can rejoice with every win – because in the battle to save humanity from L Ron Hubbard every victory counts, every new book, every news item, every radio show, every new person who leaves, every person who shows up on Marty’s site with their declaration of independence, it all adds to the wealth of information available to the doubtful Scientologist.

      The only thing between a current member in good standing and an ex-member with their life back, is a matter of time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/deanOT5 Dean Blair

    I bought the book today and read it. I liked it very much and really enjoyed John Sweeney’s style of writing. I think he gets the message across quite clearly. I am also looking forward to Jenna Miscavige Hill’s book as she will be writing about Uncle Davie.

  • EnthralledObserver

    I just posted the following at Marty’s site in response to portland85′s comment about how John’s ‘fear’ ought not to be taken seriously because there were no bullets involved like in his war experiences, and I have been sensored before, so wanted to ensure it was posted online somewhere should Marty refuse to allow his readers to witness my opinion again. Thanks for indulging me.

    “Fear is an emotion, not a physical reaction. The fabulous Mr Sweeney felt fear from the enormous amount of insideous and very deliberate psychological pressure put on him by Scientology’s minions in an attempt to squash or derail his investigation and report. He obviously wondered, quite rightly, where, if at all, they would draw the line to protect their position. There was the potential for harm other than the physical impact of bullets at stake here.
    For you not to comprehend this, as a Scientologist yourself, astounds me. For all Scientology’s touting of ‘thetans’ and ‘immortality’, it would seem that ‘death’ frightens a great deal many of you, and I for one find this ironic to say the least.
    And it begs the telling: each and every one of you Scientologist have been trained in these tactics used by Mike and Tommy D… lets all hope you use them responsibly and understand the harm that could be done should any one of you decide that your own welfare or cause ought to come above another individual’s.
    I sincerely hope I’m not censored again, because I know this will appear a little aggresive, but I’ve seen plenty of dialogue online by Indies about how ‘reverse scientology’ exists, and how about we all consider if maybe this might be a more overt example of this, and that it is readily taught to all Scientologists to apply at their discretion.”

    • Deckard__Cain

      I didn’t read your comment as aggressive. Pointing out that fear exists in different forms (phobias are a main component to destructive cults, by the way) is perfectly valid for this discussion.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Thank you, I agree, but Marty has censored me before, for similar, if not lesser opinions. It’s frustrating to say the least. And, ironically, a similar tactic to the ones that were practiced on John Sweeney in person, but in a much slower fashion. That’s why I included the comment about hoping not to be censored again, because it’s a message to Marty that I see through his censorship for what it really is, a Scientology tactic to ‘destroy’ me as an opponent or rival opinionator. Wouldn’t want to allow some good old common sense to filter into the Indie sheep paddock, would we?

        • Observer

          Common sense is Scientology’s kryptonite.

    • DeElizabethan

      Did he print it and under which post subject? Thanks, sounded good to me.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Yes, surprisingly to me – but then again, whenever I have mentioned censorship (which is why I did) he does let my comments go through – I have only tested this theory twice though, so it’s not a solid conclusion.
        It was posted in Past and Future.

        • DeElizabethan

          Good, hadn’t had time to read the comments but now will, thanks.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I’ll just put this here too…
      “Sweeney has been detained by ‘hostiles’, and his assertion is that he didn’t experience as much fear as during that time with Scientology. So your suppositions are merely your own personal opinion.
      And again, I find it exponentially ironic that ‘fear’ has been associated with only ‘injury’ and ‘death’ by a Scientologist who claims to have a ‘thetan’ to back him up again and again and again – to us mere mortals there is much more in life one might fear than death.
      To put my own opinion in it – I find it enormously frightening that CO$ has been allowed to flourish within civilised society and flout all their rules without question by the authorities. This means that at some point in the future I might encounter an L.Ron work of literature in my local library – Now that’s some scarey shit!”

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Hey M-Mom…look directly into my eyes…You rock!
    winks!

    • Midwest Mom

      Right back at ya!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Snap!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just got it on my pc and android phone. Kindle is pretty handy. Will be reading tomorrow.

  • mattekudasai

    Since I couldn’t possibly write anything as pointed, real, succinct, poignant, factual, actual, hilarious ,coy ,sly, sarcastic, raw, bitter, foxy, sexy, snarky, cocky, kind, gracious, generous, pretension pointing, intelligent, critical, ironic, deft, angry, patronizing, sci-deprecating, unpretentious/pretentious, courageous, confessional, clear, concise and cheeky as you gregarious groupies of Orgtegactivitismists then I will stand up and applaud, laugh, cry, curse, scream and sing along with everyone here who will be dauntless, defiant, and resolute till this CULT has harmed and scammed it’s last victim.

    To John Sweeney, Jenna Miscavige Hill, Kate Bornstein, Jon Atack, Lawrence Wright, Margery Wakefield, Marc Headley, Nancy Many, and numerous others, on my big order list for 2013. Praise to all who live to tell their stories, memoirs and experiences of dealing with this vile pile of excrement that is the Shit of Scientology. Helping us along with our efforts to really make the planet CLEAR of this insanity.
    I’ve had lot’s going on in my private life so it’s been difficult to stay atop of recent topics here but in the interest of Sweeney’s release and my increasing book order I’ve been compiling today just thought I’d say hi and cheers to the best year ever for our community. Gonna get snuggled in with that big cat of mine waiting on my bed. Night to all.

  • Unex Skcus

    Just finished reading John Sweeney’s book. Whilst I thought it wasn’t particularly well written, grammatically poor, and often disjointed, it WAS nevertheless a fascinating recount of his experience investigating Co$.

    It was most interesting how such a seasoned reporter, with a great many years experience in many dangerous, life-threatening situations, found himself almost out of his depth. Sweeney makes no attempt to aggrandize himself; the book simply details the circumstances of one extraordinary event, the making of a BBC Panorama documentary.

    Beware though, whilst it was less than USD6, I lost a day’s income as I couldn’t stop reading it once I started. :)

    I recommend reading it… but then I’m an Aussie.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I’m 20% in, and Sweeney’s grammar seems fine to me.. And I think the book is amazingly well written.. It’s informative, opinionated, snarky and completely captivating..

      The book does refer to the US ‘inland revenue service’ instead of the internal revenue service..

  • SandiCorrena

    When will the book be available; on Amazon all I see is kindle?

  • 1subgenius

    Don’t know if this has been posted but here, an interview with Mr. Sweeney about the new book:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=472VSXbk-78

  • Sid Snakey

    I’m about 50% through Sweeney’s book now, and it’s hard to put down. A couple of things I’ve noticed which I haven’t seen mentioned in any reviews:

    1) It’s clear that Sweeney was unprepared for his first Scientology reporting assignment. As he tells the story of the filming of the Panorama documentary you can see he is totally perplexed by the behavior of the Scientologists he encounters. Since then, he has researched the subject of cults and brainwashing and he now can understand why he was hearing two completely different stories from those in and those out.

    As Tony has previously observed, there is a huge back story to Scientology and this may put some journalists off. In the case of Sweeney it didn’t put him off but he paid the price of being under-prepared.

    The Sweeney book should be mandatory reading material for other journalists taking this subject on, although it seems the days of being handled by Scientology PR people such as Tommy Davis are over. However, any journalist puzzled by the attitude of dedicated celebs such as Cruise or Alley will find the book helpful.

    2) Throughout the story of the filming of the first documentary, Sweeney includes extracts of the messages sent between the team on the ground (mainly Rinder and Davis) and their “Communicator” (who is obviously David Miscavige).

    The communication exchanges are creepy and freaky and scary. On the one hand you have Rinder and Davis trying to keep their “Communicator” happy with status updates, and on the other hand the Communicator just replies with obscenities, accusations and more demands. It’s like having a conversation with someone with severe Tourettes. I know we’ve seen some of these before in the second Sweeney documentary, but reading them in the context of the whole story has a greater impact.

    I think it was Steve Hall who said that Miscavige just oozes hatred, and these exchanges give a glimpse into that personality. It makes me shiver to think of what it must be like to work for that man (or worse still to be married to him). What’s really scary is that he is able to put on such a smiley, charming personality when meeting the public.

    I wonder what kind of personality he shows to Tom Cruise? Remember Cruise called him something like the most compassionate leader he had ever met. This statement blows my mind. What does that make Cruise? Is he the same as Miscavige? Could that be possible? Can he show this “great guy” face to the public and be something entirely different in private? Is that why Katy blew the way she did? I assumed it was because she didn’t want Suri to become a Scientologist, but maybe she just wanted out of an abusive relationship.

    • Anononyourside

      Insightful comment., I agree with everything you write. Miscavige’s level of rage and sheer craziness makes clear why people are afraid to leave. Sweeney included this frothing at the mouth comment Miscavige screamed to Mike Rinder in an email, “DO YOU REALIZE EVERYONE OF MY MSGS ARE LONGER THAN YOURS, YOU REALLY ARE AN SP, AREN’T YOU……YS YS YS YS YS!!!!!!!!!!” ["YS" means "YOU SUCK"]. The level of psychosis and infantilism that this email demonstrates is off the charts. Miscavige not only has no control over his own behavior, he also tries to destroy everyone around him. I wish I was better at jokes, I am sure some of you can come with some doozies about Miscavige’s fixation on the “length” of his emails.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        It would be a very “short joke”.

      • Sid Snakey

        Surely Miscavige should know it’s not the length of the email but what’s in it that counts.

  • Sid Snakey

    Is there a problem with Sweeney’s book on Amazon?????

    I just went there to write my review of the Kindle edition and it says:-

    “This item has not been released yet and is not eligible to be reviewed. Reviews shown are from other formats of this item.”

    Lolwut? I’ve already bought the Kindle version!!!

    Then I noticed that if you search for the book, the release date is given as “Kindle Edition -1 Jul 2013″.

    What’s going on? Cult intervention or innocent explanation???

  • 1subgenius

    This is a good read. He’s funny. He lived the real Scientology fair game, physically. Wright has had internet pressure, but not (yet) the street shit John went through.
    And I’m bumping so that we don’t forget about this awesome book with all the publicity about Wright’s.
    I’m not seeing it mentioned in articles. Would like to see more sales. The price is right.
    I’ve bought Wright’s and will get Jenna’s, but $15 is a bit steep.

  • BosonStark

    I thought I’d comment after reading the Sweeney book. I wanted to read Wright’s book first, which I enjoyed from first word to last.

    Maybe because I know too much — from reading — I couldn’t get into the first part of his book AT ALL — I thought it was dreadful. However, starting with the Shawn Lonsdale part to the end, I liked it a lot. It was interesting getting fuller information and the behind-the-scenes of what was going on, and hearing the expanded interviews of everyone from Shawn to Bruce Hines.

    I liked the analysis of celebrity responses according to Lifton’s criteria, which made the repetitive questioning make a whole lot more sense than it did in the TV show. Since I’m interested in both psychiatry and the Holocaust, I found it the Industry of Death museum section interesting, which led to the exploding tomato. He lost his temper — which the cult diagnosed as a “psychotic break.” LOL. I never thought of it as that.

    Sweeney is really a well-educated, bright and funny guy — it is so sad that clams like Davis and Rinder can’t appreciate him for the remarkable person he is, and see how unhistorical CCHR’s view on psychiatry is — making Cruise, Jan Eastgate and Tommy Davis ranting fools.

    I was surprised that Tommy was accused of “treason” by Miscavige, for not stopping the program from being aired. How could Tommy have done that? After that, Tommy went AWOL to Vegas, but then came back, to make a greater fool of himself with Wright. One can only imagine what Miscavige called him then.

    Unlike Sweeney, I don’t feel sorry for Tommy. He had every opportunity to become educated, and instead he joined a cult, as their most visible buffoon and liar. His legacy here on Teegeeack will be the fool he made out of himself, all for his mother’s nutty cult of deluded control freaks.

    One thing I found more satisfying that Sweeney did, over Wright, is that he repeatedly mentioned the importance of the Internet in the context of it being historically important and transformational, while pointing out the ignorance of Sci-lebrities, who find no use for it.

    From the time I saw the show, I was touched by his portrayal and defense of Shawn Lonsdale. Shawn lost his job because of protesting the cult, in a way that would have probably shattered me, if I were in his position. Another thing I admired Sweeney for was shouting out at Travolta, as he made a fan appearance for Wild Hogs. He explained at how sealed off these people are, from ever being asked the hard questions — that people who do get JT on as a guest, agree to not ask the difficult questions.

  • Saabguy

    Mr. Sweeney, your level of journalistic integrity and the passion you show in all of your work is amazing. Thank-you for all of your hard work.