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Louis Theroux enjoys UK award for ‘My Scientology Movie’ ahead of US release

[Theroux and Dower, enjoying their win.]

We managed to catch filmmakers Louis Theroux and John Dower last night as they were celebrating their collaboration, My Scientology Movie, winning an NME Award for “Best Film.”

The first question we asked them both was, what’s an NME Award?

Not familiar with the tradition over on this side of the Atlantic, we were still happy to see the movie get some recognition. We first saw it at its worldwide premiere in October 2015, and it will soon open here in the US, in theaters on March 10. It’s a hilarious film, and it did very well on its theatrical release in the UK. But what should we think about this honor?

“The film got an amazing response from the younger generation and I think the NME award reflects that,” Theroux messaged us. “It’s a well respected and much beloved music magazine that has been around for yonks. Better known for championing bands and singers. But they also give out a film award. It’s voted on by the public. And this year we were lucky enough to win!”

We were also fortunate to reach Dower, the film’s director, who was in mid-celebration.

“I’m currently tearing through the bottle of free Jack Daniels I left the ceremony with (sadly not my favorite bourbon, too sweet and not a notch on the Makers Mark that we liked to share with Marty, or my ultimate favorite, Noah’s Mill),” Dower said. “But basically NME is the UK’s oldest music magazine, our equivalent of Rolling Stone, so it felt very satisfying to win the award as I think they got the freewheeling fun we tried to approach the subject with. Obviously I’m not saying Scientology is fun but as you know our intention was to approach with a Pythonesque sense of humor (especially given how humorless they are) as a way of revealing their ‘unique’ mindset. Anyway, looking forward to the US release. I’m hopefully coming over to New York so let me buy you a decent glass of bourbon.”

We’d certainly like to take him up on that.

According to NME, here’s what the two of them said when the award was announced.

“Thank you, simmer down,” Theroux quipped from the stage. “A big, big thank to NME, to everyone who voted, a big thank you to my wife, who’s had a baby while I was making this film. He’s now two and a half years old. But there’s one person out there that made this film possible and that is Tom Cruise. He wouldn’t be in the film but Tom if you’re out there please call my agent, let’s do an expose, I’ve already got already got a title – My Scientology Sequel.”

Dower added: “We had a lot of fun making this film, we thought the Church Of Scientology were out there, and then Donald Trump came along. Thanks to Louis, my producer, editor. Who needs BAFTA when you can win a fucking NME Award?”

Who indeed. And now on to March 10!

 
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Leah Remini on Bill Maher

As we told you previously, Leah Remini’s appearance on HBO’s Real Time With Bill Maher got moved to February 17. And now, tomorrow night’s episode is quickly gaining notoriety because Maher has also invited Breitbart alt-right bomb-thrower Milo Yiannopoulos.

Maher’s invitation to Milo has already caused another guest, Intercept journalist Jeremy Scahill, to pull out. In a statement he posted to Twitter, Scahill explained his reasons: “He has many venues to spew his hateful diatribes. There is no value in ‘debating’ him. Appearing on Real Time will provide Yiannopoulos with a large, important platform to openly advocate his racist, anti-immigrant campaign. It will be exploited by Yiannopoulos in an attempt to legitimize his hateful agenda. Yiannopoulos’s appearance could also be used to incite violence against immigrants, transgender people, and others at a time when the Trump administration is already seeking to formalize a war against some of the most vulnerable people in our society.”

We hear that Leah will be appearing late in the episode and won’t be part of whatever Milo and the panel get up to. Still, as much as we find Milo’s views distasteful, Leah might do worse than to see if the Breitbart writer will carry a message about Scientology to his old boss, Trump advisor Steve Bannon.

We’ll certainly be watching Friday night!

 
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Mark Fisher gets the Fox treatment in Las Vegas

When we think of what Mark Fisher went through in Las Vegas after he left Scientology in 1990, we think of one of the best stories that Joe Childs and Tom Tobin ever did at the Tampa Bay Times. In that story, Tobin and Childs revealed how Scientology leader David Miscavige sent his chief private investigator, Dave Lubow, to infiltrate a mortgage company where Fisher and other former high-ranking Scientologists were working. It’s one of our favorite Scientology spy stories.

Now, the local Fox affiliate in Las Vegas has taken a look at Mark’s story in a two-part series that ran there last night, clearly inspired by what they saw in Leah Remini’s A&E series. We hope more local television news outlets get similar ideas!

“The interesting response besides the usual trashing they do of me is they sent a letter from my ex wife. It’s the first time anyone has heard from her in 26 years,” Mark tells us.

 
FOX5 Vegas – KVVU

 
FOX5 Vegas – KVVU

 
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Joy Villa and her Trump dress

Our readers know that Joy Villa has been a favorite here at the Underground Bunker for a few years. We’ve followed the wannabe celebrity as she’s tried so many things to get famous. There was her bodybuilding phase. Her tiny waist phase. And of course her whirlwind romance with fellow Scientologist Thorsten Overgaard, a Danish photographer.

We enjoyed the Daily Beast’s take on Joy’s big publicity stunt Sunday night that has endeared her with Trump supporters. We tweeted quite a lot about it that night, but we’ve refrained from saying much about it here at the website because, well, we can’t even.

 

 
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HowdyCon 2017: Denver, June 23-25. Go here to start making your plans.

 
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Scientology disconnection, a reminder

Bernie Headley has not seen his daughter Stephanie in 4,665 days.
Claudio and Renata Lugli have not seen their son Flavio in 2,262 days.
Sara Goldberg has not seen her daughter Ashley in 1,302 days.
Lori Hodgson has not seen her son Jeremy in 1,014 days.
Marie Bilheimer has not seen her mother June in 481 days.
Joe Reaiche has not seen his daughter Alanna Masterson in 4,599 days
Derek Bloch has not seen his father Darren in 1,769 days.
Cindy Plahuta has not seen her daughter Kara in 2,089 days.
Claire Headley has not seen her mother Gen in 2,064 days.
Ramana Dienes-Browning has not seen her mother Jancis in 420 days.
Mike Rinder has not seen his son Benjamin in 4,722 days.
Brian Sheen has not seen his daughter Spring in 829 days.
Skip Young has not seen his daughters Megan and Alexis for 1,231 days.
Mary Kahn has not seen her son Sammy in 1,104 days.
Lois Reisdorf has not seen her son Craig in 685 days.
Phil and Willie Jones have not seen their son Mike in 1,190 days.
Mary Jane Sterne has not seen her daughter Samantha in 1,434 days.
Kate Bornstein has not seen her daughter Jessica in 12,543 days.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on February 16, 2017 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
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Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • What’sup

    NME stands for New Musical Express. It has serious cred.

    • Scott H

      Yes it does. I’ve lost count of all the new talent NME has brought forth over the years.

      • What’sup

        It’s been around longer than I have.

        • Scott H

          NME introduced me to The Horrors and life has never been the same since.

  • Jack99

    Typo! “…usual trashing they do if me is they…”

    • stanrogers

      Read it as if it were parenthesized thusly:

      “The interesting response (besides the usual trashing they do of me) is they sent a letter from my ex wife. It’s the first time anyone has heard from her in 26 years,” Mark tells us.

  • Ella Raitch

    Great news for Leah on Maher’s show with Yiannopoulos – there will be a very interesting array of people tuning in, and they will no doubt love Leah’s honest and earnest presentation.

    • Observer

      Hopefully the audience won’t be so disgusted that they tune out before Leah comes on.

  • nunyabidnes

    What is the secret to getting the videos to play? I’m using Chrome on Windows 10.

    • AmoVolare

      My be to enable flash? (not always a great idea…).

      • nunyabidnes

        You’re right. It is a flash video, and I do not have any flash extensions installed. So Scientology didn’t actually hack into my computer this morning to keep me from watching it. What a relief!

        • stellamaris73

          I was able to get the videos to work by going directly to the news channel’s website and watching them there. I’m using an iPad and here on Tony’s site I see blacked out boxes instead of the videos.

          • nunyabidnes

            Maybe we don’t have fast enough internet. The errors on the page mention a Chrome feature that blocks requests if they think you have poor connectivity: https://www.chromestatus.com/feature/5718547946799104. I am going to try to disable it. I’ll let you know if I figure it out 🙂

          • nunyabidnes

            This works in Microsoft Edge, but not FireFox or IE – I haven’t tested it on my Mac yet. My superpower is that I’m a web developer 😉 Hey Tony, if you need any help with your videos, let me know.

    • Vault Digger
  • Gina Smith

    Wouldn’t it be more likely that Leah would just tell Milo to fuck off?

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      We can only hope. 🙂

      • Gina Smith

        It would be great. Personally I’m finding the alt-righters whine just as much as the snowflakes they disparage.

      • Ben Franklin

        Leah does not take crap from anyone, and would even tell Bill Maher himself to F off if he was getting under her skin.

  • What’s not to like about Joy’s RUMP dress?

    Oh…

  • Huh. Milo (or MILO as his followers call him) did a column on Scientology.

    What is ‘The Streisand Effect’? January 31, 2009, Milo Yiannopoulos, Blog, The Telegraph

    Hmm. Three bland paragraphs, and then he uses it as a coat-rack for misogyny. So brave of him.

    As the editor of Counterknowledge.com, a site where we debunk cults and conspiracy theories, I spend hours every day agonising over whether to run stories about the Church of Scientology. As anyone who has dealt with the Church will know, you have to be jolly careful what you say about them. I certainly can’t afford an encounter with their lawyers.

    /rolls eyes. A cult-debunking site too chicken-shit to talk about Scientology, riiight.

    • From Counterknowledge, dredged up from archive.org:

      We are in the middle of a pandemic of credulous thinking, such as 9/11 conspiracy theories, cults, homeopathy, vitamin cures for AIDS, creationism and Afrocentric history.

      Counterknowledge.com draws attention to every kind of bogus theory, whether it emanates from maverick scientists, Christian evangelists, media nutritionists, Muslim scholars or “alternative” historians.

      With hindsight, it’s obvious what the funny smell was coming from that site.

    • nunyabidnes

      The Steisand effect is very simple. By complaining loudly or filing lawsuits about something you’re butthurt over, you are calling way, way more attention to the event, in the process outing yourself as a major douchebag. Yes, Barbra was indeed the person who coined this wonderful phrase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Streisand_effect

  • OOkpik

    Good morning, Friends. Here’s something more to look forward to.

    Last night Tony revealed that he will be in the studio this morning at 9 am for an (unnamed) “big national radio show”.

    Oh boy! The hits just keep on coming.

  • Sejanus

    All it would take is a nudge and Joy would do a sex tape to get noticed…that is how hard up for fame she seems.

    Congrats to Theroux and Dower.
    Anxious to see this film.

    • What’sup

      2 girls 1 ashtray.

      • kemist

        Don’t give them ideas.

      • John Prince

        They could run naked around a Pole ..supposed to be highly stimulating 😎

    • John Prince

      She really should make a sex video with the famous kuba kak. .who wouldn’t want to see two of the most ethical “celebitchies” in the World doin’ it like Dogs in the middle of the road?

      • daisy

        me.

        • John Prince

          ..how about seeing the two of them staked out on an anthill instead ?

          • John Prince

            I KNEW You were my kinda’ girl 😍

  • What’sup

    That dress makes the snow fence look classy.

    • Is there an inauguration dinner table missing a table cloth?

      • What’sup

        Only if it were being held at Sizzler.

      • kemist

        You’re onto something here.

        Joy Villa’s style : Low budget pseudo designer dresses.

    • Bavarian Rage

      She and Kelly Ann Conway should walk the runway together – similar fashion tastes, both apparent publicity hogs, same blind attraction to tweet-bumbling, arse-grabbing, narcissistic dictators. (You’re welcome, girls, for matching you to your new BFF/frienemy.)

    • ze moo

      The colors remind me of the Goodyear Blimp.

  • I think Maher will hand Milo his ass.

    • Missionary Kid

      Whatever the result, Milo will claim victory.

    • Well, I sure was wrong about that! Maher did everything but give him a hand job.

  • ReallyMGM

    The reporter at The Daily Beast nailed the alliteration in this spectacular sentence.
    “On a runway that’s seen its fair share of bad taste and titty tape, Villa managed to stumble upon the last remaining taboo.”
    Taste, titty tape, and taboo. Put those lyrics to music and we have a Grammy winner.

  • Mockingbird

    Good morning Bunkeroos.

    We have an odd mix of strange tidbits today. The award for a film on Scientology is good I guess. I am somewhat ambivalent on this particular film. It brings attention to Scientology but may not educate the audience well, so…I am not sure what to make of it.

    Jeremy Scahill is in my opinion an excellent journalist and the Intercept in my opinion is truly outstanding in a glutted field of political journalism. It’s providing an important perspective nothing else quite fills. It takes on the darker aspects of US foreign policy and shows no preference for democrats or republicans.

    Milo is a frankly disgusting human being from the hate fest of the alt right at Breitbart. To say he is deplorable is putting it mildly. Leah Remini may be walking into the lion’s den if she does the show. Bill Maher is sadly out of touch on religious issues in my opinion. His brand of arrogant atheism and seeing all religions as virtually identical (except for his extreme condemnation of Islam that doesn’t reflect an accurate understanding of a very complex and nuanced issue accurately) is not conducive to covering Scientology well.

    There in my opinion is a corner of TV and internet celebrities that know far less than most Bunkeroos about Scientology but think they understand it all and they provide inaccurate information to their audiences very often. Joe Rogan, Howard Stern and many others come to mind. I occasionally hear from them or people that watch them and then encounter someone explaining Scientology to me who thinks they know it all and all they have is the eight minutes of inaccurate information they got yesterday.

    Leah Remini faces the possibility Bill Maher will ignore her information to be clever and get in his wisdom or jokes. Or if she is on his panel she could get dragged into discussing issues she isn’t interested in.

    I don’t think I would be able to find a kind word for Milo myself. But I would have several unkind ones. I don’t like giving certain people a platform. I understand the idea they can have rights to speech but I don’t have to provide the exposure for their views and Bill Maher in my opinion just wants ratings.

    Joy Villa, what to say ? I don’t know if she is aware the Scientology cult has many Trump supporters and wanted their approval or if she just wanted attention in general or if she genuinely has gained the admiration for Trump in her heart. She’s too hard to read. Maybe over time it will become clearer.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Louis Theroux is so popular amongst the 20 to 30-somethings. I work with two young guys, both aged 24, and each of them separately took their partners to watch My Scientology Movie for a date night. Sam even has a Louis Theroux t-shirt. He’s like a rock God among this set; he is their documentarian and they appreciate his work for much more than the funny slant he brings to each subject, although it’s certainly Louis’ humour that first drew them in.

    NME is an excellent publication and highly regarded.

    • Juicer77

      At the screening I attended in the UK, I’d guess half the audience or more were 20-30. Will be interesting to see the demographics in the US since he’s not as well known there.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Yes, you’re right. There must be a way to find out viewership by demographic.

        • viewership – aha .. a new word learned today, to keep the scios away. Or something!

      • I saw it in Exeter (in the UK) in a small cinema close to the university. There were approx 150 people in the audience. None of them over 25 except for me and a fascinated elderly couple.

        The cinema kept putting on additional showings, and they all played to a full house (I checked for last-minutes tickets after each showing) so the audience response considerably exceeded the commercial expectation.

        The demographic I observed was obviously skewed by the cinema’s proximity to the university, but the place also has a following in the wider community who want to see minority interest films.

        • Juicer77

          Good point. I, too, saw it in a university town.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          That is interesting. I saw it in a non-university town and the audience was split 70% middle-aged-and-over and 30% twenty-thirties. Mind you, we saw it in a little art house theatre that has always had an older crowd so that probably distorts.

    • Really… he he that is interesting good news.. Perfect age to get interested

  • TonyOrtega

    Hey, I’ll be on the Jim Norton and Sam Roberts SiriusXM show in a few minutes, at 9 am.

    This is the show that had Vonnie Ribisi on a couple of weeks ago.

    These guys are skeptical that Scientology should get so much negative attention, so my work may be cut out for me.

    • Juicer77

      Good luck! You got this.

    • chukicita

      I hope they are not among the uninformed and apathetic who think “why should I care, it’s not directly affecting me.”

      Because it IS.

      Millions of dollars are off the property rolls. Corrupt organizations and officials are taking lessons from Scientology on how to gaslight their way into power, abusing our justice system en route. Individuals, families and communities mean nothing to this organization.

      Scientology is building a wall, and us wogs are paying for it.

      I hope they are not among those who believe that ex-Scns somehow ‘asked for it’ and ‘deserve’ anything that happens to them. Because if they are, I’ll be holding NOLA’s earrings.

      • nunyabidnes

        Right?! It ticks me off that I, an atheist, am forced to financially support religious organizations. Why do I say that when I don’t send money directly to any church? Because I am paying taxes and they are not. Therefore, they are not helping to pay for police, roads, etc, so the rest of us have to pick up their slack. We’re paying their share! Not fair!

        • chukicita

          I do not agree with this directly. Why just be mad at churches? Why not be mad at, say, museums or homeless shelters or Boys and Girls Clubs or Lighthouse for the Blind? They’re all nonprofits as well. Then again, so are some really sleazy nonprofits that don’t really exist outside of phone banks in boiler rooms.

          The whole idea behind churches being nonprofit was that churches are supposed to provide something important to the community – typically helping people in need, providing hospitals, orphanages, etc. Scientology doesn’t do this (in fact they purport to do the opposite by ‘making the able more able’), nor do they provide any kind of unique benefit to the neighborhoods they inhabit or to the public.

          Our tax system could do with a public benefits test and requirement.

      • littlefish

        I wonder if they’re “all religions are the same and if you’re kvetching about this one why aren’t you kvetching about Catholocism” which is what I typically run into.

        • chukicita

          I don’t care if others kvetch about Catholicism, and I will probably join them on it when Catholicism has written policies of breaking laws and families and the public trust, and starts crush-regging and gaslighting, making up statistics, etc. as a matter of following written directives.

    • flyonthewall

      ohh I was thinking it was NPR for some reason.

    • Ella Raitch

      If anyone’s up for.it Tony, you are

    • Any live links – anyone?

    • ONEpointONE

      The facts will do all the talking.

    • Joe Neira

      Can’t wait to watch it tomorrow. 😀

    • Joe Neira

      Can’t wait to watch it tomorrow. 😀

    • Bert Allen

      Do you know the SiriusXM station number?

    • Ann B Watson

      I mix up my time zones… Great to see the guest is Tony. He is on the case. 😍😎

    • Do to them what Maher will do to Milo tomorrow!

    • davegrille

      It is too evil to be apparently real ,but it is .

  • chukicita

    OT, but I’m hoping John P. or someone versed in financial matters can weigh in on this, because my understanding of financial scams is not strong.

    Reading an article about dirty money in Financial Times, am I seeing parallels to Scientology, Inc’s real estate behavior?

    From the article:

    ‘In January, the US launched a pilot programme designed to identify the ultimate owners of shell companies used to buy premium property in Manhattan and Miami. In July officials reported that the new rules had corroborated concerns that “all-cash luxury purchases of residential property by a legal entity are highly vulnerable to abuse for money laundering”.’

    The entire article is here: https://www.ft.com/content/33285dfa-9231-11e6-8df8-d3778b55a923

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    From the Daily Beast article:

    “…we also know that vegan coaching Skype sessions with Princess Joy Villa will cost you anywhere from $200-$1,500…”

    Oh, the fun we could have…

    • SarahDB

      Happy B-day Andrea, sorry I missed it! 😘🤗

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Thanks, Sarah! I’m off to London for a weekend of middle-aged debauchery* with my friends but I’ll be checking in at the Bunker.

        *Barely any debauchery.

        • SarahDB

          Hey, at my age staying up past midnight seems like debauchery!

          • stanrogers

            Same here. That’s mostly because it’s difficult to get bauched enough while wearing reading glasses.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            The only debauchery will be from the house full of teenagers while I’m gone!

            • SarahDB

              par-tay!

        • dungeon master

          Reading in bed all day in my nightie is about as debauched as I get. And if I’m really feeling rebellious, I might have a cocktail while reading in bed in my nightie. lol.
          I’m sure you’ll have a great time!

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            My kind of fun 😀

    • stanrogers

      Wait. Vegans have to use Skype differently from us carnivores and omnivores?

  • chuckbeattyxquackologist75to03

    Scientology’s continual baldfaced lying about David Miscavige’s violence defines Scientology.

    • Missionary Kid

      Kellyann Conway would be jealous at the level and duration of lying.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    What is it with giving media-time to vapid nonentities?
    Celebrity as reason for celebrity, a kind of Paris Hiltonization of the public
    space and Trump-style trolling of the world, where substance counts for
    naught and appearance is everything.

    Milo – attention whore, fake, despicable provocateur – he will not age well.
    Joy – attention whore, fake, talentless wannabe – she will not age well.

    Leah – real and on a mission – is savvy enough to redirect Maher’s religion
    mocking and belief system demolition derby and deal with the abuses.
    Like good whiskey, she is aging well.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5ff0909fa4118c66d62bd678c367959f427fafde229a0337d906f4b351f5feb7.jpg

  • I got a feeling that Bill Maher will rip Milo a new one.

    • One never knows with Maher. And while I watch his show, I’m ambivalent about him. I like that he provides a sharp, satirical view of hypocrisy in politics and religion, but cringe when he wobbles on the edge of conspiracy nonsense and alt-med claptrap. He once denied the germ theory and is a rabid Antivaxxer (when it suits him). He’s a sterling example of how even the sharpest of us falls victim to congnitive biases.

      How will he handle Milo and Leah? It’s a crapshoot frankly. Is he feeling like a shit disturber? Will he try to cast himself as the champion of Free Speech At Any Cost with Milo? Will he see all the public and media support that Leah has earned and stand as the brave, lone contrarian, daring to defend Scientology even though he’s anti-religion and has skewered the cult on many occasions?

      Which Bill Maher will show up on Friday night?

      • I didn’t know that about him.
        Ew.

      • DoveAlexa

        How do you not believe germ theory! Did he never go to school and look through a friggen microscope!
        It’s like this one movie that killed some monsters by changing the DNA of water… The ignorance, it hurts me.

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • flyonthewall

      how did you get in the studio? Bribe them with hand carved spoons?

  • richelieu jr

    Even money says Maher uses it as an opportunity mostly to go off on overly militant political correctness on University campuses as a limit on Free Speech and liberal blind spots to others opinions instead of handing him his fascist ass….

    • They’ll sing a lovely duet about Islam.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      My bet is that he will try to do both and we’ll just have to wait and see how well he brings that off.

  • ze moo

    Maher is rather capricious. Milo will probably get most of the attention and derision. Remini’s spot on the show is very important. The ‘guest’ interviewed at the start of the show gets 5-10 minutes of air time and often gets sympathetic treatment from Bill Maher. The guest who joins the round table gets similar treatment, but has to face all of the round table. We could get a more in depth treatment of the clam scam.

    I particularly want to see more air time on the coerced or forced abortions. That is one very hot button that needs more pushing. The philboard could use some air time too. Imagine the gofundme donations that could bring in.

  • dungeon master

    I wish Joy Villa would quit wearing a pouf in her hair. It looks like a bath sponge. Try a hat or some braids or streaks of color for a change. Segue from cattiness to kitty. This is Cinder, my grandcat.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/3736df26d1f57ec5548946a49609d45dd9e70e78a3e412e1390051ed9e13983b.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      spank that kitty on the butt!

      • dungeon master

        That’s her moms job! Grandmas are for spoiling! She is definitely a spunky one!

    • RedShoeLady

      She dipped into her hair budget to pay $ci the hair options you mention are expensive.

      • dungeon master

        I used to have a collection of lady’s hats I bought for cheap at garage sales that were awesome. Wonder what I did with that? And i had what I called my poor taste collection of jewelry- mostly gramma beads and brooches that went with my fun clothes.
        Of course Joy probably doesn’t have time for going to garage sales, with all the Scientology and vegan skyping and her music career..

  • Sometimes the rabbit hole is kind.

    I landed on an old WWP thread about the assault on protestor Hubbard Telescope, said to be by Greg Layton.

    So I added him to my wiki, googled his completion lists, and .. Washington Post?

    Author Critical of Scientology Harassed April 29, 1978, Ron Shaffer, Washington Post

    Woo, a vintage Paulette Cooper story! I’ll have to make another excavation of the Post’s archives.

    • holy shit!

    • “should not enjoy tax-exemption” in 1978 ? this is gold

    • Yes, it would have been way cool if we had the internet back then. What does “..I added him to my wiki..” mean?

  • Newiga

    I can’t believe I’m saying this but… Bring back the Snow Fence dress.

  • Dylan

    So Scientology says it has their lawyers hire PI’s to gather information on potential adversaries? To think I ever thought this was a religion. WOW.

    • Ben Franklin

      “Potential adversaries” is a key phrase here. The Church lawyers does not have a legal right to investigate people whom they just suspect might become their adversary sometime in the future. There has to be an ongoing legal battle for Scientology lawyers to justify investigating someone. This idea that they can just investigate anyone they suspect as a potential adversary is problematic because it is open ended.

      • Hmm. In many situations PIs are hired before there is a legal case. (e.g. Partner having a secret affair, leading to a divorce case, or not depending on the investigation.)

        I don’t think that there is a “legal right to investigate” restriction.

        • Ben Franklin

          There has to be some Privacy rights protections. No one has the right to just investigate someone because they think the person is a potential adversary. If that’s the case, any lawyer can hire PIs to investigate anyone just to harass a person while claiming “potential adversary” as the reason. If someone were to sue they would have a strong case against the PI and the lawyer. Yes, there are circumstances where it is reasonable to investigate before litigation, for example, when someone is expected of committing fraud against an insurance company. In case of Scientology lawyers, it is just pure harassment, there is no legitimate reason to investigate someone who is not involved in an ongoing law suit.

          • Phil McKraken

            Strong case? Are you sure? What laws make a case for being able to sue someone who investigates you?

            • Ben Franklin

              The strength of the case depends on why they are investigating, and what they are doing in the process of their investigations? Not saying that every type of investigation is not legitimate.

          • Robert Eckert

            “No one has the right to just investigate someone because they think the person is a potential adversary.” Actually, you can investigate anything or anybody if you just think there’s an interesting story there.

            • Ben Franklin

              I understand that you can investigate anyone at anytime for whatever you want. I am not disputing that at all. What I am saying is that there has be a compelling reason to investigate someone, otherwise, you open yourself to a legal challenge in court that you may end up losing. There has to be real or contemplated litigation to justify the investigations. Digging dirt to uncover information for the purpose of slander is not a compelling reason to justify investigating someone. I know Scientology lawyers would argue that they investigate for potential litigation. I get that, just prove in court what you are going to sue the person about to warrant the investigations being conducted by the Private investigators.

              Are you telling me you don’t find any problems with a stranger (be it a Private Investigator) following you around wherever you go, taking photos of you, talking to people around you asking probing questions, all because someone says that you are a “potential adversary” without any proof of what he or she intends to sue you for. Where would you draw the line between individual right for privacy and harassment?

              Look, I am not saying that every Private investigation is somehow illegal or vulnerable if challenged in a Court of Law. Anyone can investigate anyone they want at anytime, but, there has to be a compelling reason behind the investigation. For me just saying that the person is a “potential adversary” is not enough justification to harass someone. There has to be some real, or contemplated intent to sue the person in order to justify the investigative activities, otherwise, it is just harassment of the person being investigated. That’s the point I was trying to make.

            • Robert Eckert

              “What I am saying is that there has be a compelling reason to investigate someone” And what I am saying is: no, there doesn’t have to be any particular reason except that you feel interested. “Are you telling me you don’t find any problems” What I’m telling you is that there are a lot of things you might find morally objectionable but which are not against the law. To make a case for stalking or invasion of privacy requires much more.

            • Ben Franklin

              Then I think there was a misunderstanding because what I am talking about is way way much closer to, if not downright stalking or invasion of privacy. In other words, those things a private investigator would be able to do legally that a regular citizen without a PI license can’t do.

            • Ben Franklin

              What is important to me is what the person does during the course of their investigation, and how they justify the investigation. It can be a light investigation or it can be a very intrusive investigation, I don’t the two as the same thing.

      • Science Doc

        Insurance companies routinely investigate claimants. I know an HR person whose previous job was following around people on disability videoing them performing miraculous acts in spite of not being able to walk.

        • Ben Franklin

          Yes, I acknowledged that Insurance companies do that and it is a legitimate reason. Anybody can do anything, the only question is whether it can be justifiable in a court challenge. Gathering information to prepare for a legitimate case is not an issue.

          The problem I have with Scientology Lawyers doing the same, is that often they have no plan of suing the person but they just hope to find something that can damage the person’s reputation. In other word’s their intent is often not to sue the person, but to dig out dirt for a smear campaign. This does not serve the spirit of the law and I think if someone were to sue any of these Scientology lawyers directing these private investigators to harass people, there is a very good chance of wining the case

          • April

            “… often they have no plan of suing the person but they just hope to find something that can damage the person’s reputation.”

            I’d call that harassment and stalking.

    • ze moo

      The clampire is usually too cheap to bother with ‘potential adversaries’. They have enough trouble with all of the exs and journalists.

      • Dylan

        That did not come from me. It was in the press release given to the Las Vegas channel that did the story on mark fisher.

      • Juicer77

        Direct quote from the Co$’ own statement. Amazing, huh? Not an adversary yet but could be one so WATCH HIM.

    • Juicer77

      Pretty amazing statement they made – that Fisher hadn’t done anything wrong, but they were watching him JUST IN CASE.
      Ugh.

  • Racnad

    Progressives’ statements about Milo are an awful lot like Scientology’s statements about Leah Remini. They never address what he says that’s so, so terrible, instead they just call him names. I’ve been looking for the Milo quotes that would justify the censorship people demand, and I just don’t find them. People familiar with Scientology of all people should realize than when you don’t respect Freedom of Speech for those with whom you disagree, you don’t respect Freedom of Speech at all.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Try this:

      http://www.loonwatch.com/2017/02/milo-yiannopoulos-the-tender-hatemonger/

      Instead of being censored, he should be exposed.

      • SarahDB

        What a torrent of hate for Islam pouring out of him! Sad!

    • bixntram2

      I’ve found that many self-annointed progressives are rather fascistic when it comes to Freedom of Speech. Viz: most college campuses these days. The subtext seems to be: ‘I’ll respect your right to express your opinions as long as they coincide with my own.’

      • Gina Smith

        >implying progressives care about freedom of speech.
        They don’t and neither does the likes of Milo who only cries about it when he wants to spout his hate.

    • Gina Smith

      I don’t want to censor poor Milo, I just think he’s a dick who adds little to debate because he values his own opinions far too highly. He can rant away on any street corner of his choosing and I can tell him to fuck up if I happen to be wandering past.

      • Milo is a useful idiot. The monsters at Brietbart would just as soon see him dead once his usefulness is past. On right wing media, there’s always a ready microphone for The Good Negro™, The Woman Who Knows Her Place™ and the Self-Hating Gay™ among others, to blithely sell out their community. Joy Villa was a twofer . . .

        • Gina Smith

          Completely agree. People like Milo and Joy are so arrogant they think they’ll be the special cases.

        • Science Doc

          Vladimir Lenin reference for the win.

    • gtsix

      I’ve been looking for the Milo quotes that would justify the censorship people demand, and I just don’t find them.
      I hear there is this thing called google….

      But here’s one article that is ghastly (to me) for a wide variety of reasons: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2015/06/17/gay-rights-have-made-us-dumber-its-time-to-get-back-in-the-closet/

      Would I “censor” him? No.
      Would I ever invite him to speak? No.

      He’s a reactionary xenophobic provocateur. He holds no educational value to me. He simply hates for clicks.

      • Racnad

        Can you not see the humor in the dark comedy piece? His premise was that Gay men are smarter that straights, and therefore should marry women and pass their smart genes to children. It’s not meant to be taken seriously.

        • Gina Smith

          Finding the humour in that amateur essay is like finding literary genius in Fifty Shades.

          • Racnad

            Then you are blind to the edgy humor in this piece. Just like the police in the 1960s who arrested & charged Lenny Bruce.

        • gtsix

          Yea… he’s not a satirist and that wasn’t comedic writing. His premise was… hell… did he even present one?

          • Racnad

            Read it again and look up your misunderstoods if you need to. Start with “dark humor” and “thick skin.”

            • gtsix

              My reading comprehension is just fine. He was not joking as you keep attempting to portray it. He is not a satirist and no amount of you saying this lie will make it a truth.

              Look up “apologist” if you need to.

            • Racnad

              Did you really think a flamboyant gay man like him wants gays back in the closet? Do you not realize he said to the homophobic alt-rightists who read breitbart “Gay man are smarter than you so their kids will be smarter than your kids?”

            • gtsix

              I think hw wants whatever will make him famous.

              I think his statement that “kids who grow up in a lesbian household will witness domestic violence” is a factually unsupported allegation that is FUCKING ABHORRENT

              Do you not realize your opinion is not fact? Provide factual proof that his post was satire.

              Mycroft already provided you a quote where he says what he writes is what he believes. Are you calling him a liar?

            • Robert Eckert

              I think he is a malignant narcissist who does not give a damn about consequences which he assumes will fall entirely on other people. Like Trump or Hubbard, he does not really understand that other people are real.

        • “I don’t write anything I don’t believe,” he told me via e-mail one day, “but I won’t pretend I don’t provoke on purpose, because of course I do!”

          http://fusion.net/story/220646/the-terrifying-allure-of-gamergate-icon-milo-yiannopoulos/

          • Racnad

            Edgy humor is often provocative, as is this piece. The way humor works is to say something that is simultaneously logical and absurd. The cognitive dissonance between the logic and the absurdity is what triggers the “funny” response. Humor is “edgy” when it makes us confront things we might not want to think about.

            In this peace, Milo notes the many contributions to culture of gay man, and refers to some studies (don’t know if they’re true or not) that gay men have higher IQs than heterosexual men. He then follows a logical path to the conclusion that gay men should marry women and pass their superior intellect genes to children.

            I know, it’s not politically correct, but being politically incorrect got me into trouble in the Scientology culture so I can appreciate others who say what You’re Not Supposed to Say.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Mighty slender reed you cling to. Not meant to be taken seriously? Seems to me that’s what a lot of people said about Trump.

    • Both ends of the political spectrum love their censorship. It’s always for different reasons, but it’s the same in effect. This progressive thinks the answer to free speech is always more free speech.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Milo can talk all he likes as far as I’m concerned; it’s still a free country…at least for the moment.

      The folks who showed up at his recent speaking events at University of California Davis and Berkeley and started the mini-riots that led to the decisions to cancel each of those events weren’t progressives; they were the same ski mask-wearing anarchist contingent that shows up here in Norcal at most of the larger protest marches and events.

      They’re the American equivalent of Europe’s soccer hooligans, who just want to light fires, destroy property and clash with the police, while using the crowd for cover. I live in this region and have seen this crew show up at many of the protest events and marches that non-violent activists have organized.

      You can always spot them by the face masks that they wear and they don’t really mix in with the much larger group of real progressives who are there to peacefully protest or engage in non-violent resistance. No one that I know appreciates their appearance at these events because the headline in the morning is always: “Protest turns violent at _____ ” with pics of broken B of A windows and burned out cars featured prominently.

      They piss us off by hijacking the media’s attention and focusing it on individuals instead of the issue itself. We could mix it up with them and beat some anarchist butt. However, if you’re there in peaceful protest in the great tradition of non-violent passive resistance set by Gandhi and King, then beating their asses just ends up subverting whatever cause that’s being focused on at a much deeper level, so we don’t.

      Milo is an opportunistic, loud mouth douche whose 15 minutes of fame are almost up, but he’s got as much right as anyone to express himself in whatever venue and forum that he can arrange. You’re absolutely right, there’s either freedom of speech for all or we’ve stepped out onto a slippery slope at whose bottom lies freedom of speech for none.

      Violent anarchists just want to fuck shit up, and when you ask them what their alternative solution is to whatever the issue is that’s currently being protested, there’s never a coherent explanation or carefully considered plan, just more window breaking and random violence. So, please don’t confuse real progressives with the tag-along crew of soccer hooligans that are just looking for a crowd to blend into and some windows to break…they’re a different species entirely.

      The “Let Milo Speak” rallying cry appears to have been heard by Bill Maher who’s probably been motivated to have him appear on his show by the two recent events in which his scheduled appearances were cancelled. So, ironically, being denied his right to free speech appears to have resulted in him getting a much larger national audience where he can mix it up with Bill. Should be an interesting conversation!

      • The Balaclava Brigades are kind of cowardly when you consider that they didn’t dare show their masked faces anywhere the day of the Women’s March. Not so much as an arrest across the country. I find that telling. They certainly were nowhere to be found up here in the North Bay.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          There’s nothing progressive about violence and chaos, so you’re never going to see the kind of folks who turned out for the Women’s Marches across the country and around the world engaging in that sort of behavior. It is completely self-defeating and garners only negative media attention.

          Bill’s show is the perfect venue to give this hate-mongering, self-aggrandizing attention whore two and a half minutes of his fifteen minute total allotment of fame.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I wouldn’t try and pull that crap with a crowd of several thousand mommies. Mommies can be so severe!

    • Milo also targets people for Fair Game-style harassment by his troll followers. The excuse is made that there’s no example of him ordering people to do that. Of course not, if he had it would be a criminal offense in most jurisdictions, and he’s not stupid. What’s missing is him ever saying “Look, I despise these people, I mock them and expose them as liars. But I don’t personally harass them because that’s way over the line, so please knock it off.”

      • Racnad

        If there’s no example of him ordering people to do that, then how do you know he did?

        • That excuse only works for the first couple of times. After that, he has a social responsibility to ask his followers not to harass people that he points out.

          Now he points out people knowing full well that they’ll be harassed.

  • Ann B Watson

    Seeing as this was my first intro to this Joy Person, there are no words to describe her utterly self serving get up costumes. I am glad I missed her previous incarnations, I think the “mermaid” dresses are very difficult to pull off no matter ones figure so she reminds me of an overstuffed flash of trash. It will be interesting to see how the cult spins her. On a much higher note congratulations to all involved with My Scientology Movie. So Great with the Call Me billboard dedication on 2/18. Love to all there and hugs to Phil & Willie.❤️

    • Hi Ann, this was my first intro to Joy also. To be fair to her, it’s probably best we not judge her character on just this. This ‘self serving’ crap is coming from a scientology spokesperson. No reason to do the same.
      I couldn’t stand Lady Gaga the first few years (likely due to bias of course since I knew nothing about her) then I studied her and fell in love 🙂 Plus we both know very well how much scientology indoctrination can change ones mind even against their own morals. Hugs 🙂

      • Ann B Watson

        True Cece. You are correct look before you leap Ann. Hugs and love back.💛

      • April

        The difference between Joy and Lady Gaga is that Lady Gaga is indeed talented. Joy Villa is not.

        I wasn’t impressed with Lady Gaga either until I heard her sing “unplugged” with just herself and a piano. Her flamboyant persona actually detracts from her talent imho, rather than providing any sort of enhancement.

        Flamboyance is all Joy Villa has, along with a desperate, desperate need for attention. Keep in mind that last year Joy was vocal in her support of Bernie Sanders. This week she saw a way to garner loads of attention with that Trump dress and ran with it.

    • RedShoeLady

      I’m guessing it’s good what Joy did she caught Trump’s eye and you know how he can fire off insults….betcha he was mortified and called her “fat, cheap and ugly” he might even sue her use of his brand without written authority….

  • Joe Neira

    Milo is a repulsive human being. He once started an online poll titled, “Would you rather your daughter catch cancer or feminism?” In October he bathed in pigs blood and said that Muslims should be forced to do the same. I love Leah Remini and I love that she’s going to be on Real Time, but it’ll be a shame if she has to share a panel with him as if they were both equals.

    • Observer

      He’s an attention whore. People who do things solely for shock value bore me.

      • Joe Neira

        Agreed. It’s unfortunate that Simon & Schuster are doing their best to mainstream him. The fact that this guy’s face is going to be in every Wal Mart and bookstore across the country is enough to make me boycott anything coming out of that company.

        • April

          And it’s beyond ironic to me that the founders of Simon & Schuster, Richard L. Simon and M. Lincoln (“Max”) Schuster were Jewish. Singling out an entire group of people as evil never ever ends well.

      • Newiga

        I agree 100%. I know a few and usually just ignore them.

        • Observer

          If they had anything worthwhile to say, they could say it without trying to shock and deliberately offend.

      • He/Breitbart/Richard Spencer/etc are doing anything they can to enrage people to their boiling point so that they can all scream, “intolerance!” (sound familiar?)

        We’re living a real-life version of the original Geraldo Rivera & Jerry Springer shows. Trump is The Apprentice.

        #LRonic

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Trump truly is The Apprentice and, unfortunately for him, he’s particularly unsuited for that role, both in terms of his level of preparation for what has to be the hardest job in the world, and also on the basis of his temperament and essential character.

          Less than a month into his term, it’s very obviously amateur hour at the White House and it’s not looking to get better anytime soon. It’s a certainty that things are going to get worse before they get better; the real question there is just how much worse that will be.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Well, the DoD is “looking into” sending ground troops into Syria. So there’s that.

            • ze moo

              US special forces have already been in Syria for several ‘raids’ (no Rick Rolling there). Now they may have official, full time feet on the ground.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              We’ve been nosing around Syria for some time, yes. But the timing of the most recent announcement is very wag-the-doggish.

      • Racnad

        You all sound like Scientologists talking about Leah Remini.

        • flyonthewall

          because we refuse to accept the mainstreaming of Islamophobia and the “alt-right”?

        • Panopea Abrupta

          J.Neira listed facts.
          I supplied you with actual Milo quotes.
          How do you equate $cientology’s hate sites with actual Milo quotes?
          Or are you unable to see him other than as someone who is despised
          as a racist muslim-hating provocateur?
          He got the reactions he wanted – he’s a troll.

          We should just let hate-speech pass?
          We shouldn’t challenge “alternative facts”, lies and ethics breaches?
          Nepotism and kleptocracy are ok?
          Read my reply to your initial post.
          Then lets talk.

          I would not censor him.
          He deserves to be exposed for what he is though.

          • Racnad

            Disagree on issues you disagree with him on. That is Freedom of Speech. But I don’t agree with censorship & name calling.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Oy. Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes an “alternative fact” is just a lie.

              Individuals have the right to their own opinion, but they do not have the right to make up their own facts and expect everyone else to accept them.

        • Observer

          And you sound like a Scientologist defending Hubbard. Have you read Pan’s link? If not, try this one.

          http://www.yourtango.com/2017299732/9-milo-yiannopoulos-quotes-explain-why-people-hate-him

          • GrangerFX

            I agree that he is an attention seeking fool but he only exists because we are not allowed to have a proper debate in this society. For example, what is and is not acceptable behavior by a religion whether it’s the muslims or scientologists?

            • flyonthewall

              in the middle of a “debate”, I’d prefer discussion, you say we’re not allowed to have a proper debate in this society. That’s like rain on your wedding day ironic

            • GrangerFX

              That’s why I am here, fly. This is one of the very few places where it is acceptable to openly criticize a religion. We don’t debate too much though. Like most places, debate = name calling which is sad. Debate is about taking a position and defending it, often even if you don’t sand for that side of the argument yourself. Taking a clear position is frowned upon these days. The person is attacked and the arguments are ignored.

            • flyonthewall

              there’s a reason why there is such a thing as “no politics or religion at the dinner table”. People are passionate, easy to get worked up and the mood turns sour. Most people don’t want to freakin debate and argue all the time, they just want to be peaceful and enjoy themselves, that’s natural not some liberal globalist conspiracy.

              With the net you can go to any number of venues where people get together to debate and discuss specific issues. You’re not going to go to a photography discussion board and start railing against Islam. You want to talk or rant about that then go to the proper forum, they exist in plenty.

            • GrangerFX

              Fair enough. I will drop it. I wanted to interject a small middle ground in the conversation.

            • flyonthewall

              Not trying to shut you down or whatever, I’m just coming at the debating in society thing from a different angle

            • Kimmy3

              This is a blog that is highly critical of a religion. And the author posted the story about Milo. I don’t that @GrangerFX:disqus is out of line. We are not at “the dinner table”.

            • flyonthewall

              Never said he was. We were talking in broad terms as a society in general.

            • Observer

              I disagree. His jackassery extends far outside the subject of religion. He’s not the only one to do it, either. Look at Howard Stern. Look at Madonna. There are certain people who just like getting attention by shocking others. MY appears to be one of these people.

              ETA: and there’s a big difference between civilized discussion about a subject and painting an entire people group as evil terrorists. I see a lot of people who are happy to do the latter and either have no desire or the ability to do the former.

            • GrangerFX

              Absolutely I completely agree but again he can only do that because taking a clear stand on any issue is seen as completely shocking these days especially if you make well considered arguments. I am bothered that there are few well reasoned people who would say “Islam, as it exists today, is a bad religion.” That is my opinion by the way. Any religion that attributes rights and freedoms based on gender is automatically bad as I see it.

            • Observer

              I would imagine the hardline Muslims feel the same way about our culture, and our vocal minority who advocate “bombing them back to the Stone Age.”

              You might want to check out the links Pan and I posted. MY makes makes no attempt whatsoever to engage in civil dialogue. If you watch his appearance the upcoming show you’ll see that.

            • GrangerFX

              I am not defending the man. I am just giving my opinion on why his niche exists. If the issues were being properly debated, no one would pay any attention to him.

            • Observer

              I understand that, and disagree, because from where I’m sitting it looks to me like MY is obnoxious by choice, not forced into it by people who refuse to have civil discussion with him. Bill Maher is the same, imo.

              I may be guilty of some Hubbardian redefinition here, but to me people who agree on a subject being civil to each other on that subject isn’t true civility. My definition of civil discourse is when people who vehemently disagree are civil to each other.

              ETA: I mean, I don’t disagree that you’re not defending him. I disagree that he’s forced into it.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              DING DING DING DING DING.

              It’s the definition of tolerance, Jake.

            • Observer

              Also “taking a clear stand” is subjective with the audience. A perfectly civil statement can be made which enrages those who disagree with it. Look at the things that were said about Elizabeth Warren after she tried to read Rosa Parks’s letter.

            • GrangerFX

              She laid a perfect political trap for the republicans and they fell into it exactly as intended.

            • Observer

              I agree. She did not say one hateful or uncivil thing, but was treated as if she had.

              And therein lies the problem: civil discourse is becoming a lost art, with our politicians at the vanguard of the loss.

            • Kim O’Brien

              Any religion that attributes rights and freedoms based on sex is automatically bad.

              that covers all of them .

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Sadly, you are (almost*) correct. Fortunately, not every one of them practices what their teachings say.

              *There are earth-based and “New Age” religions that celebrate the feminine and extend that to women themselves.

            • gtsix

              Don’t single out one specific religion. If all of them do it, then all are equally bad.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Gotta separate the practices from the faith. Like it or not, virtually every Western religion has issues with them wimmin. But not every one of them acts on that, and certainly not to the same degree.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Who are you hanging out with, Granger? I’m not only allowed, but completely encouraged to engage in a proper debate among the folks that I interact with.

              And although the primary focus here in the Bunker is on $cn and not on politics, no one is disallowing that kind of debate here either.

              So, what are you talking about in specific terms? When and where have you been kept from engaging in a proper debate?

            • GrangerFX

              On Facebook for example. During the last election I tried to warn some Democrat friends that they needed to take Trump seriously and also consider the criticism of Hillary. Result: I got defriended. I am no Trump supporter but I could clearly see the risk of ignoring all the anger in the country. I attempted serious debate and got shut down cold. No one wants to talk about the issues. Everyone wants to yell and name call. Heaven forbid it turns out we are wrong about anything.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              You, Michael Moore and a very few other people got it right, while many, many more got it completely wrong. Although, to be fair, Twump did lose the popular vote by almost three million. Still, huge number of folks who’ve felt left out, used and abused by both parties got their revenge on Washington for having forgotten about them…and here we are!

            • GrangerFX

              Agreed! And watching his press conference today, he may actually be the reincarnation of LRH (assuming time travel). Unbelievable. It’s a fake news conference and reality TV.

            • Robert Eckert

              The leaks were real, when they were leaked, but became fake when they were printed or televised as so-called news. At least I think that was his explanation: it was a little hard to follow.

            • GrangerFX

              I was thinking of the bit when he said he could have been a great reporter.

            • Robert Eckert

              The best reporter, really, you’ve never seen such a great reporter, it would have been fantastic.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              He’s back on The Apprentice, but this time it’s the nightmare version in which he’s the one who’s going to get fired for sure…that is, if he doesn’t get impeached or quit first.

            • Teegeeack AV Club Secretary

              You couldn’t be more wrong. Milo exists because there are people, mostly white and male, who want to be bullies, and they like Milo because he encourages them. He’s telling them it’s ok to be racist. It’s ok to hate women. It’s ok to hate Muslims. It’s ok to hate trans people. Despite being gay, he’s telling them it’s ok to be homophobic. That’s why the alt-right loves him, not because of some crap about stifled debate.

              If you want to debate Islam from a theological or philosophical point of view, or discuss how branches of Islam have produced some incredibly nasty ideas and terrible people, you’re not going to have many problems doing so on most forums of your choice. As long as you’re clear you’re not condemning all Muslims, wanting to deny rights to Muslims, or using your criticisms as an excuse to support pointless wars, bombings, or blanket bans.

        • except … i watch the videos, read Breitbart & tried to have civil conversations in the comments there, and don’t advocate censorship.

          your turn.

          • Racnad

            I don’t agree with Milo on some issues, such as Islam, Donald Trump or feminism as a whole. I do agree with him on other issues such as his critique of so-called microagressions and politically correct culture (does that not remind people of Scientology culture?). I would a agree his theatrics are over the top at time. I don’t care for the brietbart website.

            Again, if you don’t believe in Freedom of Speech for those with whom you disagree, you don’t really believe in Freedom of Speech at all.

            • flyonthewall

              does Leslie Jones not have freedom of speech? Milo thought it appropriate to encourage abuse against her just bc she voiced her opinion. That’s your champion of free speech? An abusive bully internet troll? That’s not theatrics, it’s abuse and harassment.

            • Teegeeack AV Club Secretary

              Thanks for pointing this out. Freedom of speech, especially online, is not a black & white issue. Letting someone like Milo go completely unfettered means other voices will be shut out. Leslie Jones got through it because she’s tough, famous, and probably has a great support network. But there are several others, without those resources, who Milo silenced due to the harassment he encouraged.

            • Robert Eckert

              Nobody is asking for Milo to be jailed, so there is no “freedom of speech” issue. Nobody owes Milo a platform to spout from, despite his whiny demands.

            • Racnad

              No one owes it to him, but if Out Magazine and Bill Maher want to interview him, or a campus group invites him to speak, then why should they get attacked for their free speech?

            • Robert Eckert

              We have equally as much right to call him an asshole, or to say that people who choose to help him are being assholish to do so. Why are you opposed to our freedom of speech?

            • Racnad

              I am not. I am exercising my freedom of speech in responding to you. I oppose the protestors at Berkeley and other places that demand that his events be cancelled (including the non-violent protestors saying this). There’s a difference between disagreeing with someone and demanding that they not be allowed to express themselves.

            • Robert Eckert

              He can express himself on street corners all he likes. The university does not owe him a platform any more than it owes a platform to any other ranter. Whether they should extend an invitation to him or not is a question which all members of the community are entitled to express their opinions about, and the general feeling is that he is distinctly unwelcome.
              I can agree with you in saying Fuck Off to the anarchists who want excuses to throw bricks through windows, but otherwise I disagree with you fundamentally.

            • NJfornow

              Universities are government funded institutions. University attempts to limit free speech have been overruled by the court system on numerous occasions. When someone is invited to speak at a university, they are a guest who has a right to free speech. In a democracy we debate using words, not violence. If it becomes acceptable to use violence to prevent speech we disagree with, we will loose out. Violence is unpredictable, and we don’t know where it could strike next or who the victims would be.

            • Robert Eckert

              The university cannot possibly invite every human on the planet to speak, and has no obligation to issue invitations to anyone in particular.

            • NJfornow

              Student groups invite speakers to campus all the time. They can invite whoever they want. Other student groups who disagree can invite their own speakers at another time to counter the speaker. The solution to speech you disagree with is more speech.
              Also, creating free speech martyrs is a bad idea. Instead of speaking at Berkeley, milo was interviewed on national television and spoke to millions . His book sale preorders put him on the bestseller list. If people ignored him and calmly responded why they think he’s wrong, his audience would be a lot smaller.

            • Robert Eckert

              “I am exercising my freedom of speech in responding to you” As I am in responding to you. “I oppose the protestors at Berkeley and other places that demand that his events be cancelled (including the non-violent protestors saying this)” And I completely support them. “There’s a difference between disagreeing with someone and demanding that they not be allowed to express themselves.” He can shout IN HIS OWN SPACE all he likes. He doesn’t have the right to come into my house. I have no obligation to invite him in to shout his crap. Neither does the university have any obligation to invite him, if the university community at large does not welcome him.

            • Racnad

              The university did not have an obligation to invite him but they did. The event was scheduled, promoted and tickets sold. Then that night a mob demanded that the event be cancelled. Some started vandalizing and starting fires. Free Speech does not include using vandalism & violence to deny Free Speech to others.

            • Robert Eckert

              I agree with you about the vandals. The decision to invite him, however, was inexplicable and worthy of protest.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              To call Trump’s off-the-cuff verbal incontinence on any subject a “critique” is to give him credit for a level of intellectual rigor and competence that I’ve never seen him display. In fact, I’d bet dollars to donuts that he couldn’t put together two coherent paragraphs on the subject of micro-aggression. He appears only to be able to repeat slogans and quote false figures gathered from non-credible sources.

            • Racnad

              I wasn’t talking about Trump. I don’t like him as president and think he should have stuck with reality TV.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              You’re correct there and I agree, at least MY is capable of putting together two or more coherent paragraphs, so lumping him in with someone like Twump, who’s “electively illiterate,” is just plain wrong 😉

              I’ll be very interested to see how Bill and his other invited guests treat him. Throwing Leah into the mix should be interesting. I’d love to see someone connect the dots between Twump, Elron and Moonchild Miscavige’s authoritarianism, while holding MY up to ridicule for being such a preening narcissist and fronting for racism, sexism, religious intolerance and fascism.

              If we’re really lucky, Bill and Leah will tag team him and do just that!

            • kemist

              Freedom of speech isn’t freedom from criticism.

              If you say obnoxious things, other people have the right to call you an asshole, or to refuse to broadcast your views. After all, they’ve got freedom of speech too.

              I wish people would stop using free speech as a get out of jail card for criticism. You’re free to be an asshole, but don’t expect other people to be polite with you if you are. That has nothing to do with free speech.

              The day you can get in jail, or get lashes for saying what’s on your mind, then we’ll talk about free speech.

            • daisy

              this^^

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Calling someone a boring attention whore is not stifling freedom of speech.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Really? That’s the best you can conjure up to counter passionate and reasoned criticism?

      • joan nieman

        Well said Obs.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    See the girl with the Trump dress on
    she crunches carbs all day long

    When you see me in misery
    Come on baby come see about me
    Wouldn’t it be about time?
    Didn’t you see that Call Me sign?
    Yeh yeh yeh yeh yeh

    Tell me what I’d say
    tell me what I’d say right now
    Yeh yeh yeh yeh yeh
    Said that it’s allright now (baby it’s allright)
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b-OUKdMdgyY

  • Joe

    Sorry, but if it’s Leah v. literally anyone else, my money is on Leah.

    Particularly “political analysts” who tend to only associate with people who share their delusions. They’re not used to Leah’s Brooklyn-style of confrontation and usually cower in response to it.

  • madame duran

    Any responsible organization that is accused of some wrongdoing would launch an internal investigation and, upon finding problems, would issue a public apology, take action to resolve the issue(s), and commit itself to ongoing improvement. Not so with the Cult of Scientology! It wants everyone to accept that it has never, ever made a mistake in its entire history of existence. Really? How is that possible, let alone believable? That would make it either the most arrogant (check!), the most self-unaware (check!) or the biggest group of liars in the whole universe (CHECK ALL THREE!!!). Whatever blame there is, it always rests on someone/something else–“bad transcription”, “Big Pharma”, “bitter apostates”, “psychs”, etc.

    If Scientology is so perfect and great, then:
    a) Why is David Miscavige hidden away from the public eye? What does he have to hide?
    b) Why are there so many unreported incidents of infractions, violence, and animosity from WITHIN? Scientology gives the impression that it is rife with discord, pettiness and serious danger. Those negative patterns don’t change because nothing effective is being done prior to a Scientologist’s departure. Only when the dissatisfied member “blows” (escapes), the cult suddenly produces a ready answer to explain a situation that had mysteriously eluded them before.

    “Most ethical group”. Yeah, right.

    P.S. — The SMP must be growing moss by now. Or producing a ton of dandelions. Still no activity of note. Yet Scientology qualifies a quiet building sitting on a near-empty lot as “expansion”. That’s sad. What are you going to do about that failing stat before 2 pm, OSA?
    http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/1464462000000/america-los_angeles/owd/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/No_On-Air_Programming_since_SMP_Grand_Opening

    • Harpoona Frittata

      “That would make it either the most arrogant (check!), the most
      self-unaware (check!) or the biggest group of liars in the whole
      universe (CHECK ALL THREE!!!).”

      Hilarious! The cult certainly does seem like it’s working its hardest to win the Trifecta of Tyranny and Treachery Prize, doesn’t it? What a shame that they’re going to be aced out in this year’s competition by Twump and crew;)

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Am I mistakenly to think that in their need to ‘ show’s compliance with IRS tax exemption Monique Ying Ling has ordered DM to get his prevaricating stats up, he must submit his ‘ making a LRH movie ‘ footbullet. ( One of the scenes will show El Con Hubbard commanding the ‘ project Normandy in Clearwater Mecca surpassing Mohammed’s military invasion of Eastern Hemisphere and thus establishing the Western Hemisphere political capital masquerading as a religion of peace ).

      Another rumour has it that Allah and Hubbard will issue an executive order for DM and Mohammed to unite in an inter-racial marriage while consummating their teck of Taqiyya and TR-L.

      This will complete the mission of the gods to establish a ‘ heaven here on the prison of belief planet ‘.

      I am off to target 2 to audit 72 virgins before noon arrives.

      For more info please address your queries_to_the_orders to OTviiiisgreatt.

  • nottrue
    • Douglas D. Douglas

      The construction fence is down and the signs are up! I will have to see if I can get back down there sometime soon.

  • nottrue
  • Thank you to Mark Fisher for continuing to speak out. Excellent and clear presentation. I didn’t realize it was nearly 27 years now since he’s left Saturday15th September 1990. I went and looked at my AOLA income graph of the times and it’s scant notes to see what was going on in my universe at the time. Those years in the 80s except for ’82 were constant changes especially on the income lines with hundreds of price changes and packages to keep up with and then the personnel changes. PAC Family Time was cancelled Monday 6 November 1989 (after AO GI dipped from 1.1 M a week 29 Jun 89 to 374,065 19 Oct 89.) Captain AO didn’t blow with the FBO till Tuesday 23 April 91. History of behind the scene or I should say above it – at the top, the details that are now been put in books and stories by these X top executives show the real nuts and blots and the products of LRH. I advise all ever ins especially X Sea Org or staff to take the time to study as much as needed of these ~ possibly you may find some humor in it all. I have found it therapeutic.

  • Panopea Abrupta
    • Harpoona Frittata

      “Fare-based Messiah” Love it!

      Aslan is going to have a near-impossible time immersing himself in $cn and he certainly won’t be experiencing it as a True Believer does. Should be interesting to see what approach he takes to the cult, though.

  • On another topic, I was so excited that I was going to finally meet Phil and Willie in person this weekend, but I just received yet another travel warning for what is being called The Wettest Recorded Weekend in Southern California (3-5 inches) followed by yet another sopping wet week in Northern California, I’m going to have to pass. If you’ve ever driven up (or down) the Grapevine when it’s in “Spillway Mode” you’ll know why I’m avoiding the trip.
    I don’t know if it’s going on as planned, but I’ll be there in spirit!

    • is this going to hit the billboard location?

      • the forecast is for 3-5 inches between Santa Barbara and San Diego,

        • well i have no idea where that is. So again is this going to hit the location?

          • flyonthewall

            you don’t need a weatherman to know which way the wind blows

            • ok so your not going to tell me!

            • flyonthewall

              I will tell you that San Diego means whale’s vagina

            • ok i’m out- fucking gaslighting me

            • flyonthewall

              making funny, to me, song and movie references is not gaslighting you

            • Dylan

              Looks like sat forecast is 20% chance of rain. High of 60

            • The NOAA forecast is 100% rain on Friday and that’s the day/night I’d have to travel.

            • LA is smack in the middle of the forecast area. The main storm will be dropping 3-5 inches in a 24 hour period and all the routes I’d have to take from NorCal are threatened with closure. Plus I’d be traveling in the dark for most of it, so while it may or may not be raining on the Philboard on Saturday, the damage to roads between where I am and where LA is gives me pause.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              No, you mustn’t risk it, that sounds dangerous.

          • iampissed

            It may be a little wet.

          • Missionary Kid

            The rain is primarily on Friday. Artoo’s problem is that it looks like they would be traveling on Friday.

            Santa Barbara is approximately 100 miles (160 km) to the northwest, on the coast, and San Diego is about the same distance to the south by southwest of Los Angeles. The California coastline basically runs from the southeast to the northwest in that entire section.

            I’m in the rain shadow of two very tall mountains east of Los Angeles, that are ~3500 m above Sea Level, so I’m forecast to get less than an inch of rain on Friday.

    • Sorry we’ll miss you. We’re going ahead on schedule. The forecast is 30% and scattered storms so we’re hoping to get lucky. There are a few restaurants and coffee shops we can take shelter in if it rains on us.

      • I’m really bummed about missing it again, but It’s not the 30% on Saturday that stopped me. It’s the 100% drenching on Friday. My best to everyone and once again, congratulations on that great location! Take lots of pictures and video!

        • I understand. We will get pic ‘n vids.

        • Juicer77

          Better safe than sorry.

      • RedShoeLady

        I have family out there who are trying to go take pics of the sign and might even say hello to you all. Fingers crossed the rain won’t interfere.

      • Missionary Kid

        The front will have passed by, so there’s not going to be much rain. Even if there is, The Hollywood forecast only has 0.03 for the whole day on Saturday. https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=Hollywood%2C+CA

    • RedShoeLady

      Brings to mind the “Surviving Scientology Podcast” of Marc Headley’s interviews. In the 1990 heavy rain the Int Base was flooded badly with mud everywhere DM blamed the people saying they brought on the flood and mud and punished them all.

      • Oh, I totes pulled this in. Crimes, dontcha know.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh no, you were so looking forward to it, Artoo!

    • Observer

      🙁

    • iampissed
    • Missionary Kid

      Gorman, CA is supposed to get nearly 4″ of rain on Friday, but only about 0.11 on Saturday. It’s good to be cautious. https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=gorman%2C+ca

      Lebec, a little further north is supposed to get about 3.5″ on Friday, and 0.17 on Saturday. https://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=pws:MAT714

      Of course, there’s no forecast for landslides.

      • I’ve already spent the night in a car in Gorman once in my life. I’d like to never repeat that.

        • Missionary Kid

          I’m going through the Banning pass, and I’m planning on going Friday. Luckily, the weather there is not as severe as the Tejon pass. (I hope). If I go Friday morning, it should be quite manageable, since the front will hit it later than Tejon.

          I’ve spent the night in Gorman, too, but it was because I was getting sleepy. I wouldn’t want to repeat it when conditions are bad.

          • The Tejon pass would be really hairy in low visibility/slippery conditions. One of my favorite drives though.

            • Missionary Kid

              When the weather gets bad, I plant my ass behind an 18 wheeler, leaving plenty of distance, and take my time.

  • Mick Roberts

    I can’t wait to see this movie (or Leah’s appearance on Maher). I’m curious what Marty Rathbun’s reaction is to the film winning this NME award…..and what his response will be to people asking him questions in the US when it’s released here. When I started becoming heavily interested in Scientology (thanks to Leah and Mike on Aftermath), Rathbun had already apparently stopped his criticisms of the church after his wife dropped her lawsuit.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Hi Mick, Tony has given us terrific coverage over the years of Marty Rathbun’s past and present situation. If you look in the top left corner of the website you will be able to do a search of the blog for all things Marty 🙂

      • Mick Roberts

        Thanks Andrea. I’ll look into that. I remember Tony mentioning how odd it was that Marty just seemed to stop criticizing the church after the lawsuit was dropped. I think he might have said that on the recent 20/20 episode, but I’ve been looking at so many videos and interviews about CoS lately (including ones with Tony), that I might be mistaken about the show where I heard that from him.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          It sounds as though you’ve well and truly fallen down the rabbit hole with the rest of us!

          • Mick Roberts

            Yes indeed!

        • Juicer77

          Rathbun not only stopped criticizing the Co$, he wrote a blog post about how Ron Miscavige’s book was full of errors and half-truths. I’ll say it again — he’s on some weird path of his own and should just keep quiet as he wisely has done the last couple of months.

  • Sci-Fi

  • Alice Graves

    OMG the Theroux/Dower acceptance speech is TOO hilarious. There is an ENTIRE GENERATION lost to scientology now. Karma really and truly is a bastard.

  • Jimmy3

    Not to be a whiney nitpicker, but Jack Daniels is not a bourbon. It’s Tennessee whiskey. You’re gonna have to give that award back. I’m sorry.

  • Ivan Mapother
  • madame duran

    Marc Yager signed a declaration against Mark Fisher’s claim of abuse by Miscavige while in Scientology.

    Yes, THE Marc Yager. One of several former top Scientology executives that are currently imprisoned in “The Hole”. Meanwhile, Karin Pouw as spokeswoman for the cult is nowhere to be seen. Unreal.

    Is that really his signature? Does it look any different from before? Real ink or rubber stamp (looks real)?

  • Juicer77
  • We’ll be on Come Get Sum with Chris Crimy Friday at 9:30am Pacific time if anyone wants to listen.

    http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cgshere

    • flyonthewall

      you remind us on the morrow?

      • We’ll be on the road, but would appreciate it if you can put a note out there tomorrow for others.

        • flyonthewall

          you can count on me sir!

        • flyonthewall

          goin places you ain’t never been?

          • A billboard in Scientology land beckons.

            • flyonthewall

              tallyho!

            • ,, and don’t spare the hounds.

        • Juicer77

          Will tweet. I’ve been pinging the local LA news desks also. Hope they cover it.

          • Thanks. It will be interesting to see if any news people show up. We had quite a few for the last one on LA but this is the third billboard so not sure if it will have the same draw.

            • Juicer77

              But the location is truly newsworthy!

            • Yes. This is the closest we’ve been to their properties.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I love Chris Crimy! He’s so empathetic. I’ve been binging on his podcasts recently. Really nice guy. I can’t wait for your episode.

  • nottrue

    DM gotta have something to brag about come New Years…Gotta keep the Sheep shouting Expansion Expansion … https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9554544ae021468fde87d88817d1989f8a568b8e0aaae2579abc0856265956bf.jpg

  • Jimmy3

    I don’t agree with free speech. I think people should be able to say what they want, but when it’s free, everyone talks and no one ever shuts up. You should have to pay a fee to say something. Or maybe it could be subscription-based, that way we can cancel it and revoke it when someone says something stupid.

    • outraged

      Pay on demand speech?

      • Jimmy3

        Yes. Questions are on sale for $4.99

        • ze moo

          Will there be a rebate if the answer to any question is ‘yes, he is lying’? There are going to be a lot of rebates if the questions are about $cientology or politics.

          • Jimmy3

            Good idea. You have earned one free statement.

        • Missionary Kid

          No sale. It’s great that you shut up for nothing. 😉

    • Robert Eckert

      You should have to pay me for my words of wisdom.
      “What are your fees?” inquired Guyal cautiously. “I respond to three questions,” stated the augur. “For twenty terces I phrase the answer in clear and actionable language; for ten I use the language of cant, which occasionally admits of ambiguity; for five, I speak a parable which you must interpret as you will; and for one terce, I babble in an unknown tongue.” ― Jack Vance, Tales of the Dying Earth

      • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

        “O Malygris, I give thee greeting,” said Maranapion in a loud voice of mockery. “Grant, I beseech thee, a sign, if thy wizardry still prevails, and hath not become the appanage of oblivion.”

        “Greeting, O Maranapion,” replied a grave and terrible voice that issued from the maggot-eaten lips. “Indeed, I will grant thee a sign. Even as I, in death, have rotted upon my seat from the foul sorcery which was wrought in the vaults of King Gadeiron, so thou and thy fellows and Gadeiron, living, shall decay and putrefy wholly in an hour, by virtue of the curse that I put upon ye now.”

        Then the shrunken corpse of Malygris, fulminating the runes of an old Atlantean formula, cursed the eight sorcerers and King Gadeiron. The formula, at frequent intervals, was cadenced with fatal names of lethal gods; and in it were told the secret appellations of the black god of time, and the Nothingness that abides beyond time; and use was made of the titles of many tomb-lairing demons. Heavy and hollow-sounding were the runes, and in them one seemed to hear a noise of great blows on sepulchral doors, and a clangor of downfallen slabs. The air darkened as if with the hovering of seasonless night, and thereupon, like a breathing of the night, a chillness entered the chamber; and it seemed that the black wings of ages passed over the tower, beating prodigiously from void to void, ere the curse was done.

        The Death of Malygris, Clark Ashton Smith, who also wrote stories set in Earth’s future.

  • ze moo

    Looks like Milo will be the first guest after Maher’s monologue. If the regular format of the show is followed, Leah Remini will get to sit down with the panel and 20 minutes of clam baking will ensue. I’ll bring the hot sauce.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/02/15/milo_yiannopoulos_to_appear_on_real_time_with_bill_maher.html

  • Milo Yiannopoulos — née Hanrahan — is a poisonous kebab-scoffing twank* who should stop spreading his filthy fascist lies, and piss off back to the primitive Kentish backwater he emerged from, before the INS start enquiring into his work-permit visa.

    (*Twank: an over-the-hill twink).

    Can it be long before he joins his crapulous cause to a well-known American totalitarian cult? — he certainly seems to be filching some fashion-hints from yo-yo knickers and Shortarse (ETA: genuine Milo quote): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/360abf0a0e7144c976b9b33090877d23c8d3ec5f2076879503851c4798d6038f.jpg

    • Joe

      Actually a twank is a combination of a twink and a skank.

      • Either will do 🙂 I’ve also heard it described as being short for someone who looks like “Widow Twankey” — the pantomime dame in Aladdin.

      • Jimmy3

        A twunkie is a skunk with a sweet creme filling. Very rare in nature.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Years ago my dear wife dragged me to one of those autograph shows where I met the actors who played Spin and Marty on the old Mickey Mouse Club. Whenever someone greeted the actor who played Spin as Spin, he would correct them: “It’s not Spin any more. It’s Spun.”

    • GoneToPlaid

      So Drag Race Scientology Edition?

      • RuPaul would eat him alive!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Hilarious! “Milo for twanker-in-chief!”

      What do Milo and lil davey have in common? They are each the Moonchild of their respective movements!

  • nottrue

    Here is what the future holds for Scientology… When the Jig is up…. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/1be78d72f720bc42cfcd1150ec43ca1973d8ab55901590ca4113b7f16abfa0b6.jpg

  • Chee Chalker

    Tony got to meet Saul Goodman….I am so jealous 😒

    • Frodis73

      Hey, I was just going to ask if he actually got to meet him. I haven’t been able to listen to the show yet.

      • Chee Chalker

        There are pictures on Twitter.
        Sigh.
        How come I never get to meet cool 😎 people….

  • itsIBBy

    The only comment i will make re: Joy Villa’s appearance is that that dress is tacky. She’s very pretty, and i dont know enough about her music to make a comment. im only judging her Scientology affiliation and fashion choices.

    Thanks everyone for the bunker hugs. not looking forward to tomorrow at all

  • nottrue
    • Missionary Kid

      It runs through March 12th. Chicago area people, here’s your chance.

      • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

        My wife took William Burrough’s injunction to “break the machine” all too literally when she was put on the e-meter.

        • Missionary Kid

          It’s easy to screw up. Since one’s grip can change the reading easily, what they read is bunk, too, because you can manipulate it.

  • chukicita

    This Mark Fisher story is gobsmacking.

    I want a reporter to ask whatever Scientology spokesperson is being propped up this week exactly what percentage of their income is spent on surveillance of perceived and potential suppressive persons.

    • Jimmy3

      Tony has Karin Pouw’s email. Maybe he could ask.

      • flyonthewall

        i had a clementine but now I can’t find it

        • Jimmy3

          It’s gone and lost forever

          • flyonthewall

            no it’s ok I found it in my pocket

          • itsIBBy

            dreadful sorry to hear it

  • flyonthewall

    imbroglio is prob one of the most ridiculous words ever. Just look at it! That’s absurd

    • Missionary Kid

      To use it in a sentence, “Anyone who gets involved with flyonthewall will be in an imbroglio.”

      • flyonthewall

        like trying to explain time zones to him? Would that count as an imbroglio?

        • Missionary Kid

          Why should I?

          • flyonthewall

            idk you tell me

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m not getting involved in one of your imbroglios.

            • flyonthewall

              too late!

      • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

        Dorothy Parker was once challenged to use “Horticulture” in a sentence.

        “You can lead a hortuculture, but you can’t make her drink.”

        • Missionary Kid

          Best laugh of the day, Bobby!

        • Sherbet

          think, not drink.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        “My favorite dessert is creme imbroglio.”

      • Ann B Watson

        ❤️

        • Missionary Kid

          Ooh, thank you. <3 to you, too.

          • Ann B Watson

            You get Hugs and 😘💋

            • Missionary Kid

              Oh boy, oh boy, oh boy. Same to you.

      • OOkpik

        That would be a ‘clusterfuck’!

    • JJ

      But as a name for a high end Italian shoe brand. excellent.

      “There’s some guys at the door, should I let em in?”

      “Shoes?”

      “Imbroglios.”

      “Very pricey, they’re not cops, open the door.”

    • Paul V. Tupointeau

      I prefer “morass” 😉

      • flyonthewall

        that’s good too!

  • nottrue

    Tony at 57:42…. Tony does a great great interview. #1 at explaining things..Nobody does it better..Super fast and super clear.. .. .. https://youtu.be/ZgiMvAIyx4c

    • Missionary Kid

      Thank you.

    • I really liked this interview because having a non-gushing host who pushed back (mildly) allowed Tony to really shine and display his mastery of the subject. I also loved his explanation about his “obsession” as regarded beat reporters. Here’s to more beat reporters in our future!

      • Missionary Kid

        It really was an excellent interview. There is so much to cover. The only thing that I would have added was that Ribisi probably didn’t see any of Leah’s shows, because of the prison of the mind that $cientology gets everyone to put themselves in.

      • Frodis73

        I am really looking forward to listening to this.

      • Sherbet

        Nice job. The hosts actually gave him attention and asked some knowledgeable questions.

    • JJ

      “Never been to a church of Scientology.” Church, Storefront same dif.

  • Observer

    OT for people who call their Congresspeople:

    To my friends who are making phone calls to their senators or representatives and getting busy signals or messages saying that the inboxes are full:

    Bernie says, “If you’re getting a full voice mailbox when calling your senator or congressman, Sen. Bernie Sanders wants to know. His office is tracking these as it seems that some of these full mailboxes remain that way intentionally. Reach his D.C. office at 202-224-5141.”

    Turns out it’s a hoax.

    Poe’s Law has replaced the Constitution.

    • Jimmy3

      And what is the deal with all these full mailboxes?!?

      • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA

        “They aren’t boxes, but they’re easy to fill!”

    • flyonthewall

      that’s a hoax. Flylady called and his secretary said it’s not real

      • Observer

        Hmm

    • Frodis73

      Isnt it great how so many of these fools are avoiding their constituents this way?

    • GoneToPlaid

      Does snail mail work any better?

      • Frodis73

        From what I have read, phone calls are the most powerful. If you really want to be a pest about it, you can ask for a return call for them to explain their position or tell you when they will be in town so you can meet face to face, etc.
        I do know snail mail is better than email though.

      • Kim O’Brien

        snail mail is actually very powerful . Here is a link to some great information and daily calls to action . A woman wrote a snail mail to Cory Booker ..and got a 45 minute face to face with him . This was made by ex congressional staffers …they know what pressure points are most important , and most painful , to our elected officials . Punch in your zip code …and there will be a group in your area .

        https://www.indivisibleguide.com/

        • JJ

          Sometimes it is easier to put your thoughts down on paper, you are less likely to get flustered. And it shows that you took the time to write something out as opposed to just sending off a email.

  • flyonthewall

    is Tony back from doing the show yet? I need to know when I will have to put my pants back on

    • daisy

      I spend everyday without pants. Tony has yet to notice.- Wait , what That is insulting .

      • flyonthewall

        he noticed, he just didn’t want to say anything and embarrass you

        • daisy

          Hey now that is insulting.

          • flyonthewall

            his heart was in the right place

  • i’ve been reading the transcript of Trump’s most recent speech/q&a this morning and want to express my gratitude to all of you for preparing me for this over the past couple of years.

    thank you.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b158d9bbc2e96ae2b4c7a3dd7696774411f7c56bc8dd74c8faa21cfc672e8789.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      that press conference? Yeah…that was something for sure. I love it when he brings up nuclear holocaust without being prompted

      • Jimmy3

        No one believes the media anymore. His administration is running like a finely-tuned machine.

        • flyonthewall

          My fav part was when he asked April Ryan, an African American reporter, if the Black Caucus were her friends and if she could set up a meeting with them. That’s just…*weeps*

          • Observer

            He really said that?! omx

            • flyonthewall

              yeah I saw it myself, not going off 2nd hand reports or mistaking it for an SNL skit. So embarassing

            • daisy

              Obs My jaw could not be more slacken. Every day I think , well he cannot be any more assinine tomorrow .Well you know… People reporting the news are actually having trouble not smiling because it is so ludicrous .

            • Observer

              Well, that’s the problem. People think he can’t be any more asinine, and he takes it as a challenge.

              Meanwhile, I feel worse for Melania and Barron with every passing day. Especially for Barron.

            • pkatz

              never mind

            • Frodis73

              I really wonder if she is a victim though. Yes, she was a total ass for doing all that, but he may have forced her to do it. I also find it horrific that in that lawsuit she chose to describe her position as first lady as a unique once in a million chance to cash in. She acts like an abused spouse in many ways. I don’t really care for her, plus she is an adult so it is okay to question her. If she is being abused, she is also his victim and I will not be surprised in the least if he is. Their behavior on inauguration day was awful to watch. Basically I guess I am torn when it comes to her so I flip flop.

          • I have some friends and could def set up a meeting. Just happen to be wearing their jacket right now:
            https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/dbbd3d5ad59ee1f55bec3a3c74ad8c0b2d62a4d23870789665d47e6f507b04cd.jpg

            • flyonthewall

              i like it

          • Frodis73

            That was so bad. He didn’t even know what she was talking about at first and then asked for a meeting.OMFG.

        • Ben Franklin
        • Trump: we didn’t do anything wrong

          Media/most sane people: what about that sketchy thing you/your guys were caught doing?

          Trump: it’s your fault for finding out about it

          Media/most sane people: isn’t that thing illegal/unconstitutional though?

          Trump: i dunno, i don’t really understand anything about this job, you figure it out, we didn’t do it and even if we did i don’t think it would be a bad thing

          • Frodis73

            Lol, that is a pretty good summary of things.

            • JJ

              And frightening to think this is the leader of our nation.
              Have we declared war on Sweden yet?

            • Frodis73

              I think that is on the agenda for the 2nd month.

            • as long as i can still get a couple chuckles out of you here and there i’ll consider it a win

              ;P

            • Frodis73

              It is scary accurate tho! His cult members are on twitter bragging that he did a great job and spanked the media too. Um, wtf? He is totally unhinged.

            • keep an eye on how many times his Twitterrhea gets liked/retweeted … could be a good indicator of when and how quickly his cult dwindles away, too 😉

      • Bobby Tolberto aka TDA
  • flyonthewall

    oh btw, has anyone…seen my pants??

    eh? eh? SWIDT?

    • Ben Franklin

      Why would a Fly need pants?

      • flyonthewall

        why are you trying to kill me?

        • Ben Franklin

          Can’t because we still need you.

        • You own a pair of pants that keeps you alive?

          • flyonthewall

            No. I rent them

    • Juicer77

      Honey where are my pants?????

      • flyonthewall

        Juicer knows whats up

        • Everything is Awful!

          • flyonthewall

            it’s funny cuz it’s true

  • The Washington Post does seem to have a “new” archive of articles available. Their main site only goes back to 2005, and they have an old school paid archive for older ones, but this one has great stuff in it!

    There doesn’t seem to be an index, but a little Google-fu works:

    https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q=Scientology+site:www.washingtonpost.com%2Farchive

    Nice stuff! I think I’ll turn the mining job over to the minions..

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1983/03/07/sects-missing-founder-leaves-legal-morass/623c71ea-2a4b-45df-8c0e-93f48e6e5687/?utm_term=.91756752f99b

  • nottrue

    A new group.. Come on out and play….Come on out and do some interviews with Tony. . Jeff and Chris would love to hear you out I’m sure .. You could go on the Bill Maher Show.. That would be fun. .. .. . ..Click webgram link. . https://webgram.co/p/BQliUFygHx5 https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ba137d903673a10e46534ede6a83606e9ede3ea9221be00a117bf3df19f90357.jpg Also Tony’s interview with Jim and Sam is posted below ..Great interview…scroll down alittle … .. .. https://twitter.com/standleague/status/832334313693720576

    • KSW TV is on?

    • Jimmy3

      That will be a good sister movement to CRATE
      Coalition of Ronbots Attacking & Trashing Enemies

      • flyonthewall

        I love that show where the nerds build Ronbots and then have them fight each other to the death in a cage.

    • Observer

      Discrimination = they keep exposing our crimes

    • Juicer77

      “By anyone other than us!”

    • Rasha

      Wait… Scientologists Taking Action AgaiNst Discrimination???

      • Rasha
      • Jimmy3

        We need to staad up to horrible acronyms wherever we can.

      • Frodis73

        Yeah, you would think scientologists out of all groups would at least get that right since they are swimming in them via the tech and rantings of Hubbard.

      • JJ

        I bet it is like that advertising thing where, what ever they are saying they do best, it is the exact opposite.

        You know what the whole fair game, self defense, attack attack attack knee jerk reaction boils down to?

        “I’m rubber and you’re glue, so whatever you say bounces off me and sticks to you!”

        Otherwise known as: Neener-neener-neener Tech.

        • ze moo

          $cientologies tech is based on the not so cool table in 3rd grade.

          • JJ

            Dude I sat there. And I didn’t get the cooties!

    • JJ

      Scientologists Talking Absurd Nonsense Dogmatically.

      • ze moo

        My dog speaks better and more to the point than any $cieno ‘spokesperson’.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Silly Thetans Attempting Non-stop Douchebaggery

    • Mick Roberts

      Well, they developed the “word clearing” tech. But I suppose LRH was never able to get around to developing the “acronym clearing” tech.

    • The cult that kicked me to the curb wants to take a stand against discrimination? I swear to God that Scientology and Donald Trump are the same fucking person. I mean how can it be coincidental that they both completely lack any self-awareness. Like at all.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Personality Test – “Free”
    OT VIII – $499,999
    “Call Me” Philboard? – Priceless

    Through any hoop she will jump
    She put The Donald on her rump
    It’s all just a game
    15 minutes of fame
    Then back to being a talentless chump

    Milo, self-hating, bloviating, gay
    Wouldn’t have it any other way
    Insult, hate, provoke
    “It’s just a racist joke,
    All I want is fame and a big pay-day”

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/60b2cf58dacf1217332cb82ed33bf0e3cdfbc2dcd145fe728d9757af7dc2b432.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      is this your house Pan? I bet it’s your house

      • Jimmy3

        Yes. I remember Pan saying he lives in feudal Japan.

        • flyonthewall

          man that guy has everything, no fair

        • flyonthewall

          I knew it wasn’t his house. I was just trying to get him wrapped up in an imbroglio

          • Jimmy3

            What is that? Like a fancy burrito?

            • flyonthewall

              yes, a super fancy Japanese burrito

    • JJ

      I had that word in a dream last night bloviating I mean why? Now I see. ESP. and I am not even an OT.

  • Richard
    • flyonthewall

      i think that’s a brain slug, from the brain slug planet, on his head disguised as a hat

      • JJ

        Than what the hell is the tie thing?

        • flyonthewall

          think it’s called a skahgoober, very fashionable in Sweden

          • JJ

            God damnit I am looking that up and all this weird crap is coming up…

            skahoober… skahgoober…

            • flyonthewall

              LOL! I didn’t mean for you to take me seriously, sorry

            • Jimmy3

              You’re about as sorry as a skahgoober.

            • flyonthewall

              that word is patent pending

            • Rasha

              …looked it up. It’s “patent considered”.

            • flyonthewall

              booo

            • Sherbet

              I think he dunked the end of his skahgoober into his shrimp cocktail. He should trade it in for an lrh ascot. Those are undunkable.

            • flyonthewall

              I whole-heartedly agree!

          • ze moo

            We in the upstate reaches of NY and Canada call them ‘toques’.

            • flyonthewall

              ya’ll crazy

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    In her first public appearance since LAX, RTC exec Jenny Linson reprised Joy Villa’s Trump dress. This was part of a PR effort on COB’s part to make Ms. Linson look “feminine and fun” as opposed to her image as a screaming and insane masculine woman whose bizarre and ill-advised psycho-terrorist rant at LAX also went viral but not in a good way.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6156837b5ee39f6ac825cb201628fb22208b8173bdf5b096363db3acab93e4d4.png

    • GoneToPlaid

      Please Ma’m don’t hit me with your e-meter

    • ze moo

      Sir, you besmirch the good name of ‘psycho-terrorist’.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Possibly. But the term “insane rabid Communist psycho-terrorist killer” was already taken by North Korea’s leader. BTW, COB admired the way in which Kim Jong Un’s half-brother suddenly succumbed to what was surely food poisoning yesterday in Malaysia. COB opined that SP’s needed to get food poisoning.

        • JJ

          Poor bastard, had he been born into a small Eastern European country instead of the US he too might have found his calling as a dictator.

          • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

            Or a Sea Org member.

    • Liberated

      Oh please, I’ve seen wolverines in heat more feminine and fun!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Just killin’ me here! Jenny became a legendary icon of $cientology on that day and will be infamous for it the rest of her life. So much so that even her BTs are embarrassed for her.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Ah, Makers Mark. Sippin’ whiskey. I miss my drinkin’ days sometime.

  • ze moo

    KVVU did a nice series on Mark Fisher. The devoted 10 minutes to what most other TV stations would ignore. So much good has come out the 4chan raids and so much good journalism has come over the years that clams can’t hide anymore.

    I think we should get the National Weather Service to name a Hurricane, Leah. Maybe a typhoon too.

    • Sherbet

      Yeah, and then they ended the segment with the church’s alleged help to the community, including The Way to Happiness program.

      • ze moo

        If it ain’t obfuscation, it ain’t $cientology.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Liberated

      Don’t look at me…call Pinkman..bitch!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Hilarious! Speaking of haggard and undead looking, have you noticed how out of it that Twump and some of his team have looked since the whole Flynn scandal broke? Donnie John looks bemused, like he’s only half there, even during big media events, like the press conference with Netanyahu. Things are definitely going to get worse for the Twumpster before they get better….IF they get better at all!

      • stanrogers

        It’s hard, you know, when all of your senior advisors are continually quoting Walter Sobchak at you.

  • TexasGirl

    About Joy Villa:

    I was listening to my favorite radio station this morning as I always do every weekday. One of the hosts has his own segment that I love hearing every morning. It’s usually about different topics. Well one of those topics was about Joy Villa and her Grammys dress. They just came around to mentioning it today. Well he was talking about how Joy was brave for wearing this dress to the Grammys because Hollywood is so liberal and celebrities should not be afraid to express their opinions that runs contrary to the norm. And as you would expect this pissed me off so much I shot him an email to express my opinions on this. First of all, I don’t care what your political beliefs are. Express them as you see fit. Second, Joy Villa is no damn celebrity. I told him as much in the email. He also said that he didn’t know anything about Joy and wasn’t familiar with her. I told him how I became familiar with Joy via this website. I also told him that he should educate himself a little and recommended this website to him to read especially the story about Joy today from the Daily Beast. Anyway the only way I would know he read my email is if he mentions it on air.

    • kemist

      Poor little white supremacists, Hollywood does not love them.

      Somebody call the whaaaaambulance.

    • April

      You should have mentioned that last year she vocally supported Bernie Sanders. I don’t think Joy Villa has any firmly held political beliefs other than “how can I become famous?”

  • Tony Ortega

    Bob Odenkirk now has a copy of The Unbreakable Miss Lovely.

    • flyonthewall

      *high five*

    • Nice job on that interview Dude!

    • flyonthewall

      maybe he’ll read it and get it a screenplay treatment!

      • HTC

        And bring Walter white back to bring bad ass on the cult

    • Jimmy3

      I’ve never admitted this, but my mother says I was named after Slippin’ Jimmy

      • flyonthewall

        you didn’t get a name until 2008? What did she call you until Breaking Bad started? Boy?

        • Jimmy3

          Skahgoober. Why?

          • flyonthewall

            I am getting my crayons and will be writing you a stern grease and citrus letter regarding your continued unauthorized use of my word. Good day sir

            • Jimmy3

              That’s how Bert Deixler does it. Except the crayons are made from a mixture of wax and the charred remnants of confiscated passports.

          • Sherbet

            You and fly have me laughing today. You’re both OTIX on the Bridge to Total Funny.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              I’m on a work thing for two days, and suddenly Fly and Jimmy become comedians..? I’m never leaving yous guys alone again.

            • Missionary Kid

              Comedians? A couple of 11 year olds.

            • Jimmy3

              Don’t you have some model airplane kit instruction manual to proofread or something? I’m sure there’s errors in there you’ve missed. Take a hit of the glue while you’re at it. Lighten up.

            • Missionary Kid

              I don’t build little kiddie stuff, I build airplanes I can fly in and take passengers after they’re issued an airworthiness certificate. Today, even the fabric covered aircraft use fabrics and chemicals that don’t make you high, like they did in the old days.

              It’s hard to sort through the dross to find something to even chuckle at between the two of you.

              It’s the occasional nuggets that keep me reading everything.

            • Jimmy3

              Well, that’s just, like, your opinion, man.

            • Missionary Kid

              It is, and I express it a lot less than you guys trying to be funny.

            • Jimmy3

              Really? I find that hard to believe, because you have by far the most comments in the history of the Bunker.

            • Missionary Kid

              The reason I do have that many comments is because I was compiling different lists of things that people on the Bunker were saying about $cientology, e.g., Miscavige’s nicknames, and I’d let people know that something they wrote ended up on a list.

              My longest list was Miscavige’s Nicknames, and that had over 1,600 entries. That’s a lot of notifications. I’ve also been her for 4 years.

            • Missionary Kid

              To add, I also interacted with a lot of people here, including trolls with a lot of posts. Since my posts are no longer open for people to read, you can’t see what they were about. I made them private after I started to demonstrate because I didn’t want to make it easy for Co$ to target me. (Not that it would be terribly difficult).

            • Jimmy3

              Yeah, I remember when we’d have caption contests and silly J&D threads, and you wouldn’t contribute, but you’d effectively double the length of the thread it by replying to each and every post to say the same thing about your list. But today you’re a cranky get-off-my-lawn type complaining that people are making your bunker harder to read. What a difference a year makes, right?

            • Missionary Kid

              It is, and I express it a lot less than you guys trying to be funny.

            • Jimmy3

              It’s hard to get through the dross when you repeat yourself. No wonder you have *over 9000* more comments than the second place.

            • Missionary Kid

              See my reply to your previous comment.

          • Stephanie Loving

            When will there be a Fly and Jimmy podcast? I could listen to you guys rag all day. Funny funny stuff (I’m tapping my pencil Johnny Carson style)

      • ze moo

        I thought you were named after that staple of gas station convenience stores, ‘Slim Jim’. You know, the meat like substance made with cow lips and spices.

        • Jimmy3

          How dare you disparage such a wholesome gas station staple? May the ghost of the great Macho Man Randy Savage haunt you until your days are snapped. Ooooohh yeah!!!

          • ze moo

            I just don’t want my final resting place to be in cellophane in a convenience store. And I want to take my lips with me.

    • HTC

      Saul? How do you know?

      • Sherbet

        I think he was on the same Sirius radio show Tony was on earlier today.

      • TonyOrtega

        I handed it to him.

        • HTC

          Yay!

      • Kestrel

        Boy, is my face red. All this time I thought Bob Odenkirk was the guy that did Kung Pow: Enter the Fist. Turns out that was Steve Oedekerk.

        • Juicer77

          XD
          Your shirt is RED!

  • willloomis

    Louis Theroux’s botched release schedule has been so bizarre, It came out A YEAR AGO and it’s still not available in the U.S. Who botched that? He’d was showing it at festivals over a year ago if I’m not mistaken. Also his interview about Scientology with Joe Rogan was pretty weak, he was at times an apologist for what I view as a criminal organization

    • flyonthewall

      the release was not blotched. It was smooth as silk and soft as a baby’s bottom. What release are you thinking about?

    • sometimes securing the digital distribution rights is more complicated in different regions of the world. things take time to iron out.

      Joe Rogan’s interviews are usually 2 people talking about stuff. i liked it.

      • beauty for ashes

        i liked it a lot.

      • iampissed

        Oh …..digital distribution rights. We need to talk.

        • I have a few distractions this evening but you’ll have my undivided attention tomorrow. Does that work for you?

          • iampissed

            How about Saturday maybe.

            • bummer, I won’t be able to make the Philboard party this time 🙁
              *grumble grumble work grumble grumble*

            • iampissed

              In

    • daisy

      * What are you talking about , it is running smooth * I hear all these reports in the media about how it is chaos . I can assure you everything is just going fine . It is running like a fine tuned machine . It is the media reports that are lying * * The media is the problem . I assure you and believe me there is no problem * Also your avatar is dark , do you know anyone in the congressional black caucus I could have a meeting with ? *

      • flyonthewall

        ISWYDT

        • beauty for ashes

          what does that even mean?
          I sometime wear your drawers too?

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            *your

            • beauty for ashes

              I fixt. but technically if it is slang in America you can also use *you*

            • flyonthewall

              really? Where? I never heard of that

            • beauty for ashes

              it’s like really bad ghetto speak. I’m not saying its proper, but it might make a funnier joke.
              know what I’m sayin?

            • flyonthewall

              i think you’re thinking of “Yo”

            • beauty for ashes

              Maybe its a philly thing. No I have heard yo too which just sounds like a foreshortened your, and then I have heard people say you. Oh well .

            • flyonthewall

              hmm cool, I never been to Philly but I’d like to go. I hear it’s a real shit hole. I like shit holes

            • beauty for ashes

              it smells real bad. just like NY, maybe less. I still miss my dirty city though. dammit I want a soft pretzel.

            • iampissed

              I hear they have really good sandwiches. With cheese that looks like our President.

          • flyonthewall

            i saw what you did there

            • beauty for ashes

              should have left it,it was accidentally funnier.

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)
    • Liberated

      Oh no….I’m speechless.

      • Marshall

        A match made in pantless heaven!

    • beauty for ashes

      well I guess she’s probably unemployed too.

    • Ben Franklin

      It is a bumtastic match

    • flyonthewall

      friends share

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        I saw you eat that Twinkie earlier. Did you ask if I wanted some?

        • flyonthewall

          not my fault you were lurking. Should of been like, “Yo Fly, gimme some of that twinkie bro!” I’d of been all, “Fuck you man, you didn’t put in on this! Naw I’m just messin with you, here you go” and then broke you off some.

          Yeah that’s how it all would of happened. *nods wistfully*

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Nuh-uh. You had that bad-boy in you mouth faster than a cheetah on crack. No way I’d want a piece that has been in you mouth.

            Well, I am kinda hungry, so I might have eaten it anyway.

            • flyonthewall
            • beauty for ashes

              that’s disgusting! don’t eat that johnny!

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              For some reason I trust Fly implicitly.

            • beauty for ashes

              well, it’s your stomach. is that cheez whiz on top too? gross.

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              Eating that would actually improve my diet.

            • flyonthewall

              hey speaking of movies, did you ever get around to Prometheus?

            • Jimmy3

              Yes I did, and it was boring. But maybe I just have to rewatch it with a plastic bag over my head.

            • beauty for ashes

              And some markers. then you can draw over the characters, and add new ones. just keep turning the bag for a new surface.

            • daisy

              Oh honey , I hope you don*t have kids .

            • beauty for ashes

              Haa! I know much worse parents, but no, I am not a breeder.

            • iampissed

              That made me chuckle. Said by the person who would let kids stick a screwdriver in a socket.

            • flyonthewall

              you’re boring. Why don’t you go make out with ovaherenow? I hear you and he are quite the item. Bitch

            • beauty for ashes

              You have your image to maintain Johnny! Oh god too many old Hollywood movies.SMDH.

            • flyonthewall

              if it’s good enough for Weird Al’s character in UHF it’s good enough for Johnny!

            • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

              “I’m your worst nightmare”

            • flyonthewall

              “Don’t you know duh Dewey Decimel system??”

            • Andrew Robertson
            • beauty for ashes

              see that looks disgusting but I bet it tastes great.

            • flyonthewall

              it looks revolting but nothing deep fried with powder sugar could taste bad. That’s just science

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              And now we know the exact confectionary tech of how the implanting stations on Mars pull in and dazzle thetans.

    • daisy

      See now I expected a picture of me not my mom,

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        XD

      • Liberated

        Tramp.

        • daisy

          I guess your right . Mom bothers with underwear.

          • Liberated

            That’s my girl… underwear, who needs it?

    • iampissed

      You found a keeper.

  • nottrue
    • Jimmy3

      Does Trump know Australia stole one of our most popular television programs? This can’t be good.

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe that’s Australia’s Today show.

    • downtherabbithole

      She is like the energizer bunny!! Just reading of all her press stops is exhausting. Wish I had even half her stamina. The lady is relentless.

      • iampissed

        Pssssst…satellites be good.

  • beauty for ashes

    what’s everyone eating for dinner?

    • iampissed

      Probably Fritos and something that comes out of a jar and looks like our president.

      • beauty for ashes

        I am eating a bowl of beans I rinsed the sauce off of. I also had some rather large broccoli.

        • Kestrel

          The last time I ate that for dinner my wife made me sleep in the garage.

          • beauty for ashes

            Why? Did you do something to upset her?

            • Kestrel

              Repeatedly.

            • beauty for ashes

              Pfhhhhhtt!!!

        • iampissed

          Nuclear ashes….but beautiful.

          • beauty for ashes

            don’t worry I only had a few bites of the beans and now I’m full. no nuclear threat.

            • iampissed

              Stand down to Defcon 2.

    • Liberated

      I made linguine w/clam sauce….and I live alone.

      Woe is me…where’s a healthy bunker appetite when you need it?

      • beauty for ashes

        makes good leftovers.

        • Liberated

          Yeah, I know.
          All I really care about is it’s Thursday, my kitchen’s clean and trash is out…I’m upstat!

          • iampissed

            Yea but did you get it done before 2 pm?

            • Liberated

              No, I flunked there, and if little davey doesn’t like it he can come here personally and give me shit…..I would love it!

            • iampissed

              And I hope he dose.

      • downtherabbithole

        My invite must have gotten lost

        • Liberated

          I hear ya!

    • littlefish

      whiskey.

      • iampissed

        That to.

      • beauty for ashes

        breakfast of champions!

    • Chicken Tikka Masala. Just kidding. I wish.

      • iampissed

        Didn’t she do backup for TLC at one point.

        • Haha? Indian food seriously amazing.

          • iampissed

            We are more into Thai and Korean, but Indian….I got ya.
            Where would we be food wise without Immigrants!

            • beauty for ashes

              in nascar country with an anorexic amount of ethnic food like me. 🙁

            • daisy

              I know , love Indian food. Haven*t had any for years. 20 pizza places .

            • beauty for ashes

              the pizza isn’t great either here. now I’m just feeling sorry for myself. at least I eat.

            • iampissed

              Sorry

      • beauty for ashes

        my old roommate used to bribe me with making me tandoori chicken. I love the vegetarian stuff you can shmear on nan too. <3 <3 <3

    • Science Doc

      I made Anthony Bordaine’s Mac and cheese.

      • beauty for ashes

        Second time better? Or is it all around bliss every time?

        • Science Doc

          It was better this time. I did a better job creating the bechemel sauce and balanced the cheeses a little differently. Great dinner and then packaged massive leftovers for camping tomorrow night plus several meals downstream.

          • downtherabbithole

            Good lord I could have used your cooking/baking skills the other day. The Valentines cake (chocolate expresso) turned well enough but the homemade bread found it’s way to thrash bin. Was a good effort though. Note to self – never do bread again.

            • Missionary Kid

              My mistake is that I haven’t let bread rise enough.

      • Liberated

        Are you sure it wasn’t just leftovers from last time?

  • AntoniaW

    Well guys I’m off to Egypt on Sunday, through western Cairo to the desert oases. I can check whether $cientology has been heard of as I pass through, if it would help. But I think I can honestly say that I will travel through the most populated and most literate society in North Africa next Sunday, and nobody – but nobody – will have heard of Scientology. As they say, Halas! (enough): Haram! (forbidden) and “Mafi F’lus!” (I have no money.)

    • downtherabbithole

      Safe travels to you and enjoy your adventure.

      • AntoniaW

        xxxx

    • beauty for ashes

      Have safe beautiful healthy travels Antonia! Bring us some beautiful pictures back! xoxoxoxo

      • AntoniaW

        Will do. xx

  • Frodis73

    I will just leave this story here for you guys to enjoy. (eye roll)
    DenIro and RFK Jr offer cash to prove vaccines are safe!
    http://www.deathandtaxesmag.com/318670/rfk-jr-robert-de-niro-offer-100000-to-anyone-who-can-prove-vaccines-safe/

    • daisy

      I love it when smart celebrities do good, and then the other kind . Oh brother.

  • flyonthewall

    *throws link and runs away*

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKUL_wBlp90

    • daisy

      Why do I think you use this blog in place of an honest discussion with Fly lady, Just ask !!

      • Fly Lady

        Should I be offended here?? Are you implying something?

        • daisy

          Definitely not , i was teasing him because of this and yesterday*s posts. I truly was just being silly .

          • Fly Lady

            Haha… I know! I was just kidding too. It is embarrassing to have questions. Luckily, this nice old lady seems to have answered them for me.

            • daisy

              I knew you were a cool chick , I didn*t think you were mad . As I descended into my alcoholic stupor , I thought maybe.. … I am not sure it is Sue who is the nice old lady ( she is one of ours ) or me. We have no shortage of old people answering sex questions OR asking therm.

          • flyonthewall

            she’s mad now, you messed up Daisy!

            • daisy

              Shit disturber

    • Liberated

      That would get you thrown in the RPF for a billion years!

    • Joe

      I love Sue!!!!

    • beauty for ashes

      I think you meant to
      *run and throw the link away*

  • Observer

    This guy is the ultimate shooping troll genius. And very, very literal.

    http://cheezburger.com/1574661/the-photoshop-troll-master-is-back-with-some-more-hilarious-photoshop-requests

    • beauty for ashes

      Aww, the last one was sweet 🙂

    • Mrs. B ( noseinabk)

      Luv the hamburger bun abs!

    • Mrs. B ( noseinabk)

      That last pic. Nice guy.

  • downtherabbithole

    Is there a link to Tony’s interview on the Jim Norton & Sam Roberts show?

  • Observer

    If only it were the 70s…COB wouldn’t have to pretend he doesn’t use lifts

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/542b702f0dd13f845ee3abf6ca80f6f74e86acaad43f97d2f689cf70d278c42b.jpg

    • Liberated

      Reminds me of the O’Jays….weren’t they from south Phily just like davey?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Groovy.

    • Snippy_X

      This is so fine, Obs.

    • Ann B Watson

      Oh lord Observer. Great observation. I can see dm coming to the podium with full sprayed pompadour and spray tan and All in polyester in a jumpsuit with those enormous platform shoes! Run run and do not look at him because he is so polished the polyester sheen will blind you. And while you are without sight, where is my wallet?! ❤️

  • Early Reviewers: 15 Free advance copies of The Scientology Murders: A Dead Detective Novel, by Edgar Award winner William Heffernan: http://www.librarything.com/er/list#19033475

    * * * * * BEGIN EXCERPT * * * * *

    The Scientology Murders: A Dead Detective Novel by William Heffernan (Akashic Books)

    Description: While investigating a murder that has also left his much-loved adoptive father seriously wounded, Harry Doyle, known to his peers as the Dead Detective, finds himself faced with what many consider the most powerful and secretive cult in the country—Scientology. Clearwater, Florida, is the spiritual center of Scientology, which is run by a fanatical group of true believers who insist that members remain pure and true to their beliefs. One senior leader has a young man in his employ, a twisted soul who will stop at nothing to make sure the rules are followed. But Harry Doyle, his partner Vicky Stanopolis, and Clearwater Sergeant Max Abrams are in hot pursuit, forcing the killer to run for cover.

    The Scientologists have places to hide in every part of the globe, and Harry finds himself pursuing the killer to the far reaches of Alaska. In a shocking denouement where everyone’s life hangs in the balance, Harry and Vicky come face-to-face with death in a form they never expected.

    * * * * * END EXCERPT * * * * *
    .

    • Jimmy3

      451 requests for 15 copies. Scientology would kill for those stats.

      • daisy

        ISWYDT – I so rarely get sophisticated humor like yours , I feel like I should announce it.

        • Jimmy3

          Cool. I’ll add that announcement to one of my lists of announcements.

  • daisy

    I watched * The History of Comedy * It was quite good , There is a repeat at 1 a.m.

  • Scientology again tries to assert its ownership of the Holocaust.

    http://www.digitaljournal.com/pr/3238809

    • Mrs. B ( noseinabk)

      Disgusting that they still get people to put on blinders and show up at any event.

  • RTE Radio 1 Podcast: Scientology needs 250 people in next 8 months to open Ideal Church of Scientology in Ireland.

    https://player.fm/series/rte-liveline/scientology

    At 6:30, and then 10:15. The rest of the interviews are also very informative.

    .

  • Help raise money for Cathy Schenkelberg’s Squeeze My Cans solo show about Scientology:

    http://www.hatchfund.org/project/squeeze_my_cans_a_midwest_girls_journey_into_scientology_and_back_out_again

    .

  • Dave Reams

    It’s a shame that Leah won’t be face to face with Yiannopoulos on Maher because she would have had an opportunity to talk about Scientology’s treatment of gays – perhaps with a graphic of LRH’s words on gays on the tone scale and plans to dispose of low toned people “without sorrow” and Maher asking should a group like this be tax exempt?

    Yiannopoulos (whose name in Greek means “choke the chicken”) as a gay man may be inspired to look up COB … birds of a feather and all with their shared interest in neo facsism, dominance, bondage, sadism, humiliation, and expensive clothes.

    Here is an old clip of Yiannopoulos:
    https://youtu.be/LazrAzBP_0I

    • April

      You must not know much about him. ” … Yiannopoulos also genuinely seems to hate gays, hate his own gayness, and hate the gay rights movement.” I’d say he fits right in with the CO$.

      “Milo Yiannopoulos of Breitbart London has done more to put homosexual camp in the service of right-wing authoritarianism than any man has since the fellows at Hugo Boss sewed all those nifty SS uniforms.” —Kevin Williamson, National Review

      http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Milo_Yiannopoulos

      This guy is no friend to progressive values. I say, “fuck him” and fuck everything the alt-right stands for.

      • Dave Reams

        It made me uncomfortable to watch Bill Maher fawning over his campy fayness – I suspect he is mashup of Bruno and Ann Coulter

  • Juicer77

    Welcome, newbies and lurkers and under-the-radars. Glad to have you here. If you have time today, Phil Jones will talk about the Call Me billboard just installed in LA! 9:30AM Pacific, 17:30 GMT (5:30 PM Greenwich Time) here: http://www.blogtalkradio.com/cgshere https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20fad2c3f5c67be254b13345cbbd825f22ff36624841d917d3e306bc4f413afa.jpg

    • Juicer77

      Oh, and some guy named Ortega will be on, too. 😉

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Ortega? From ‘The Incredibly Strange Creatures Who Stopped Living and Became Mixed-Up Zombies!!?’ ?

        • Juicer77

          XD
          “You must be Nicholas Cage…”

      • John Prince

        Yum! Taco’s. .i like Mine with lottsa Hot -Sauce!

    • Ann B Watson

      Juicer77, Thank you of course I mixed up the dates. Thought it was Saturday. But I am with all there in spirit. So proud of this billboard and where it is placed. May the sun stream the truth through the bubble fortress walls. Love to Phil, Willie,Tony Karen & Jeff, Mike and Christie and all fighting so hard for Truth Revealed. 💘

      • Juicer77

        The dedication is Saturday – tomorrow 18th. The radio show is being broadcast today. Easy to mix up all the media appearances lately! 😉

        • Ann B Watson

          My heart said 18 my mind said 17! I will Be there in Spirit with Bells On. ❤️to you.

  • Stephanie Loving

    Hello Mark Fisher. I want to give you a big hug and a big THANK YOU. Depression is no joke and after what you have been through, lo these 27 years, it is a almost a given you would go through the terrors of angst, anger, doubt and pain. I think you are brave. I think you are fierce. 27 years after you left this despicable organization they still fear you and your story. That’s the church in an evil nutshell. Mark Fisher … we know the truth. Tony Ortega puts it out here each and every day. We support and back you. Hang on and hang in. When you feel down, remember, many many people admire and respect who you are, what you’ve done and how you’ve held up. Stay strong friend. I don’t pretend to speak for others, but I’m sure my fellow Bunkerites are whole-heartedly behind you. Don’t forget it.