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LEAH REMINI TO LAPD: COUGH UP PROOF THAT YOU CHECKED ON SHELLY MISCAVIGE

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In 2013, The King of Queens actress Leah Remini filed a missing person report on Shelly Miscavige, the wife of Scientology leader David Miscavige, who has not been seen in public since the summer of 2007. Three years later, Remini has never received a formal response to her report from the Los Angeles Police Department, which instead leaked news to reporters that it had checked on Shelly and closed the case.

Now Remini, through her attorney Douglas E. Mirell, has made a formal records request with the LAPD regarding her 2013 missing person report, asking the department to respond with detailed information about how it determined that Shelly Miscavige was alive and well.

Remini’s request comes as her docu-series about her former church, Scientology and the Aftermath, has become a hit for the A&E network, where its first episode drew 2.1 million viewers and was the most-watched series premiere for the network in two years. Tonight, the third episode of the series airs, and press interest in the show is running high — Remini’s records request is well timed to produce pressure on the LAPD to give her answers that she didn’t get three years ago.

On August 5, 2013 — a Monday — Remini filed her missing person report with the LAPD. We broke the news that she had made that report three days later, on Thursday morning, August 8. Just the month before, we had revealed that Remini had defected from Scientology after growing up in the church. One of the things that had begun her disillusionment in the organization was the realization that Shelly Miscavige was missing. She first noticed Shelly’s absence at the 2006 wedding of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes at a castle in Italy where David Miscavige was best man. When Remini asked why Miscavige was there without his wife, she was told she didn’t have the “rank” to ask that question.

Michele “Shelly” Barnett, like Remini, had grown up in Scientology. At only ten years of age, Shelly was sent to a yacht in the Mediterranean where Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard was running his worldwide organization from sea. Shelly became one of Hubbard’s trusted “messengers,” and eventually she married another member of the Commodore’s Messengers Organization, a young man from New Jersey named David Miscavige. After Hubbard died in 1986, David Miscavige became Scientology’s leader, and Shelly helped him run it as a top church executive in her own right.

But eyewitnesses at Scientology’s international base near Hemet, California who have talked only to the Underground Bunker say it was in late summer 2005 that they saw Miscavige explode in anger over changes that Shelly made to the base while he had spent some time away in Los Angeles. A week later, in late August or early September 2005, Shelly vanished.

Two years later, in the summer of 2007, Shelly was allowed to attend the funeral of her father in the presence of a Scientology handler, but since then she hasn’t been seen at Scientology events or at its large headquarters complexes in Los Angeles and Florida. (From several different lines of evidence, we have strong confidence that we know where Shelly has been held for the past eleven years, at a super-secret Scientology compound in the mountains above Los Angeles.)

After we made public that Remini had filed her missing person report on that Thursday morning in 2013, later that day the LAPD began leaking to other reporters that it had checked on Shelly and were closing the case as “unfounded.” The Church of Scientology has attacked Remini for making the report, calling it a waste of police resources. But in the time since then, the church has produced no proof of Shelly’s whereabouts or that she’s where she is by her own choice.

In her book Troublemaker, which came out last year, Remini revealed that she had made her missing person report with the help of LAPD Detective Kevin Decker, whom she had met when he was providing off-duty security on the set of The King of Queens. According to the book, Decker told her that the LAPD had closed the missing person case without even seeing Shelly, but instead had been assured by a church attorney that she was fine.

The LAPD told us something different. After news that the case had been closed came out, we spoke with LAPD Lt. Andre Dawson, who told us that two of his detectives had made contact with Shelly, and that she had told them she didn’t want to make a public statement. When we asked Dawson whether this conversation with his detectives had occurred in the presence of other church officials, he quickly responded, “That’s classified.” Since then, Lt. Dawson has repeatedly appeared in Church of Scientology fliers as a featured speaker at its events.

Did the LAPD actually visit Shelly, as Lt. Dawson told us, or did it only check with a church attorney, as Remini’s book claims? Remini now wants some firm answers from the police department:

1. Who conducted the investigation that occurred in response to the [missing person report]?
2. When did that investigation commence?
3. When did that investigation conclude?
4. What actions were undertaken in connection with that investigation, and by whom?

Mirell’s letter also asks the department to reveal if Shelly was personally visited by detectives, or whether the LAPD relied on representations made by church attorneys. If detectives visited her, how was her identity established?

According to California state law, the LAPD has ten days to respond to Remini’s records request. We have a feeling the department will say something sooner than that, as will Scientology, which has been attacking Remini and the people who have appeared on her series with increasingly unhinged accusations (and more, see Amy Scobee’s report that she’s being followed since her episode aired two weeks ago, below).

We’ll update you when those responses come in.

For now, here’s the letter that Mirell sent the LAPD, in both text and pdf formats…

 

Douglas E. Mirell, Attorney at Law
132 S. Rodeo Drive, Fourth Floor
Beverly Hills, CA 90212-2413
424.203.1600 www.HMAFIRM.com
Direct: 424.203.1603 Fax: 424.203.1671
Email: DMIRELL@HMAFIRM.COM

December 12, 2016

VIA E-MAIL [discovery@lapd.lacity.org] AND U.S. MAIL

Discovery Section
Los Angeles Police Department
100 West 1st Street
Los Angeles, CA 90012

Re: Public Records Act Request — Status of Missing Person Report Filed By Leah Remini Re Michele Diane (Shelly) Miscavige

To Whom It May Concern:

This law firm represents Ms. Leah Remini. This is a request pursuant to the California Public Records Act, California Government Code Sections 6250-6276.48.

On or about August 5, 2013, Ms. Remini submitted a Missing Person Report (“MPR”) to the Los Angeles Police Department (“LAPD”) concerning Michele Diane (Shelly) Miscavage. A copy of that MPR is attached to this letter. Shortly thereafter, a number of news outlets published stories quoting unnamed LAPD sources “who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the case publicly,” stating that the case had been closed, that Ms. Remini’s MPR had been “ruled as unfounded,” and that “police were no longer investigating.” See, for example, THR Staff, The Hollywood Reporter, “LAPD Rules Shelly Miscavige Missing Persons Report ‘Unfounded,'” posted 8/8/2013 @ 7:00 PM; Andrew Blankstein, Los Angeles Times, “Scientology leader’s wife located by LAPD after Leah Remini inquiry,” posted Aug 9, 2013.

Notwithstanding the LAPD’s apparently unauthorized communications with various media outlets about this matter, Ms. Remini herself has never received any official communications whatsoever from the LAPD concerning the disposition of her MPR. In particular, Ms. Remini wishes to know the following:

1. Who conducted the investigation that occurred in response to the MPR?
2. When did that investigation commence?
3. When did that investigation conclude?
4. What actions were undertaken in connection with that investigation, and by whom?
5. Prior to August 8, 2013, did any LAPD detectives or other personnel travel to San Bernardino County to meet Ms.Miscavige? If so, who and when?
6. Subsequent to August 8, 2013, did any LAPD detectives or other personnel travel to San Bernardino County to meet Ms. Miscavige.? If so, who and when?
7. Prior to August 8, 2013, did the LAPD’s investigation of the MPR rely solely upon the representations about Ms. Miscavige made to the LAPD by one or more Church of Scientology attorneys? If so, by whom, and to whom, were those representations made?
8. Was Ms. Miscavige physically seen by LAPD detectives or other personnel? If so, where, when and by whom? If so, how was her identity ascertained? If so, who else was present at the time she was seen by the LAPD?
9. Was Ms. Miscavige spoken to by LAPD detectives or other personnel? If so, where, when, by what means, and by whom? If so, how was her identity ascertained?
10. Was any attempt made to ascertain the health of Ms. Miscavige? If so, what was done?
11. Has the LAPD’s investigation in response to the MPR concluded?
12. Was the protocol followed in connection with the investigation of this MPR consistent with the LAPD’s standard operating procedures?
13. Is it consistent with the LAPD’s standard operating procedures to allow its personnel to anonymously convey the results of an MPR investigation to members of the media?
14. Is it consistent with the LAPD’s standard operating procedure to never directly inform the person filing an MPR of the results of the ensuing invesigation?

To the extent the answers to each of these questions can be found in LAPD reports, policies or other documents — including, without limitation, any and all follow-up and/or “3.14” reports prepared by LAPD detectives or other personnel — please provide the undersigned with copies of all such records. In addition, to the extent that the original MPR filed by Ms. Remini has subsequently been annotated in any way by the LAPD, please provide the undersigned with a complete copy of that annotated MPR. Pursuant to Government Code Section 6253(b), Ms. Remini is prepared to pay all appropriate “direct costs of duplication” attendant to provided copies of identifiable records.

Pursuant to Government Code Section 6253(c), I look forward to your prompt response. Thank you in advance for your immediate attention to this matter.

Yours sincerely,

DOUGLAS E. MIRELL Of
HARDER MIRELL & ABRAMS LLP

 

Leah Remini records request with LAPD by Tony Ortega on Scribd

 
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  • Suzy

    So I take it Shelly does not have any non-Sci family that might be missing her? Since her parents had gotten her into the “church” and she grew up inside the bubble. πŸ™ Does DM ever physically visit the Lake Arrowhead property? So many questions…

  • nottrue
  • flyonthewall

    SHOW ME THE INVESTIGATION!

    No, it just doesn’t have the same ring to it

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      YOU CAN’T HANDLE THE INVESTIGATION!

      Nope, you are right.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    BTW – LAPD Police Chief Charlie Beck really appreciates the L. Ron Hubbard Theatre…
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/000b5a86f2cac1e8e39c50977cf10602387d1fafbb18de201801fdb5a38ea5a5.png

    • Observer

      >:-(

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        That last paragraph is especially stomach turning!

        • Qbird

          he is speaking for the whole department. betcha that ain’t true.

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            I sure hope not! Yeesh!

            • Qbird

              Glossy PR crap is all this is.

    • on behalf of the men and women of the LAPD that i’ve spoken to at events like the Original Philboard unveiling, the SMP “grand opening”, and a few other times, they all kindly (off the record, of course) said, “yes, we know, too, and thanks for doing what you’re doing” (in regard to the SP Brigades posted up at those various events)

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        It’s good to know that some of them are aware of the shadiness.

        • i witnessed Missionary Kid dropping A LOT of knowledge on one officer that was curious. iirc, she had responded to a few Sci calls and knew something weird was up but had to follow protocol. you should have seen the expression on her face when Mish started telling her about disconnection and Gold Base πŸ˜‰

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            SP Powerz. Dropping those truth bombs. Hope she went home and Googled. πŸ™‚

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      “dedication to your profession”

      Don’t religious workers have a vocational calling rather than a “profession”.

      http://www.reactiongifs.com/r/lucille-portable.gif

    • FredEX2

      Dang. Even the chief?

  • nottrue
    • Such a good point Tony makes there. .
      The harder they come, the harder they fall.

    • I just had a Theta-bob!

  • Helen Van Patterson Patton

    Check out the Thank You credits from Leah’s show. One name surprised me–Debbie Cook. Isn’t she under a gag order? Will she be speaking on the show or is it just footage of her? Either way, my bet is that Debbie Cook will come up in the abuse episode. Cause you just know there is going to be an hour focused on the abuses and violence of David Miscavige.

    [url=https://postimg.org/image/d8pguvm1f/][img]https://s29.postimg.org/mghpbkt3r/leah_show_credits.jpg[/img][/url][url=https://postimage.org/]host image[/url]

    For those with failing eyesight, like me:

    Jeffrey Augustine
    Jenna Miscavige Hill
    Marty Rathbun
    Jason Beghe
    Debbie Cook
    The Lisa McPherson Trust

    Bryan Seymour
    Steve Cannane
    Janet Reitman
    BBC Panorama
    John Sweeney

    Jon Atack
    Senator Nick Xenophon
    Chris Shelton
    Anonymous-Why We Protest

    • fine print: “the producers also wish to thank all of those who contributed to this program and those who have courageously spoken out before us

      • Helen Van Patterson Patton

        Now I feel silly. Oh well, not the first time.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Shelly? You jest
    She’s real busy
    Guarding MEST
    Don’t get dizzy
    She ain’t stressed

    Somewhere on a mountain crest
    She’s a slave of her husband’s test
    Her changes made of her a pest
    Now with penance is she blest
    While DM is in John Lobbs dressed

    Ten years later and still no news
    DM is famous for his short fuse
    To many he has dealt a bruise
    While his wife is paying her dues
    He’s too busy f&$king Cruise

    You are a mangy jackal, Dave

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/01e5609b9e9241c4c6abb13d4cb4bd0283e3814e9197d2284d674ffc6e0abc61.jpg

    • Sherbet

      You need a rapper name, Pan.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    BREAKING NEWS!
    Bunkerites, your postulates are about to be answered…
    Bwahahaha!
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/34dba43b239b8388c75e876c974630362412b5e8aa06a8d786fce4e67ef0ebed.png

    • Observer

      Oh dear Xenu! πŸ˜­πŸ’©

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        It’s sure to be Grammy considered, I’m sure!

      • (just to clarify my question yesterday about why people say “praise Xenu”, it was more in reference to writing it on placards/yelling it at protests and during actual irl interactions w/ Scientologists. i totally get that you use it in solidarity of/for the Master. *winky face*)

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh my God, I can hardly wait! I couldn’t upvote this fast enough. It’s going to be the best thing we’ve seen in a long, long time, on a par with these masterpieces!! I foresee hours and hours of hilarity at the Bunker. I hope it’s released on my birthday.

      F5

      Nancy Cartwright’s clay baby
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/9f513243932a7276d0d028d51a8f33f5b509645a6da1162ac71152de96fbf1ea.jpg
      Trish Duggan’s glass art.
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/6cb510553295dcc5f8e8321c26b7ad9baaa48ce22cf543b666ed06f58a6f0e16.jpg
      Feshbach preggers portrait
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/74d6a221a9751362b0879b9440c72e012558401b16a36c307fea39f3d5e7f99d.jpg

      • itsIBBy

        oh god that pregnancy portrait… and they still manage to look smug

      • Newiga
        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Snort!

          • Newiga

            She’s given me hours and hours of lulz! If she ever escapes the bubble, I’ll bake her a cake.

        • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

          You found the pics! You can see how scientoology has made her more herself.

          • Newiga

            I’m so glad I did. I can’t tell you how much I’ve laughed at these pics. xD If she ever wants out of the cult, she already has one SP fan in me. πŸ˜‰

      • Sherbet

        And you thought your tooth hurt before hearing that masterpiece.

      • flyonthewall

        Don’t forget the Battlefield Earth movie

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          You’re right! It’s hard to keep track of such a plethora of quality culture, Fly.

      • GrangerFX

        I can’t think of a better use of SuMP’s first broadcast.

      • Graham

        That Feshbach picture. I thought we’d agreed…. [Sighs and wanders off to find brain bleach]

        • Sherbet

          I know, Graham. Either a ban on the picture or at least a warning. Ew.

      • Qbird

        NO UPVOTE FOR YOU!

      • Juicer77

        GAH!!!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I thought this was banned!

      • KiwiGal
        • Kim O’Brien

          whatthefuckingwhatohmygodmakeitstop

    • FredEX2

      Scientology. ~ It’s like organized crime or the mob creating a front group for Human Rights and starting a musical group to sing about it…just to show what great guys they really are after being exposed for money laundering, beating people up, and making them disappear.

      Yes Scientology, the whole world believes you.

    • Kim O’Brien

      LaToya Jackson was his manager

      aaaannnnd there ya have it

      • Sherbet

        Not even the talented Jackson sister.

        • Vaquera

          Does the psychic hotline qualify as a MEST ability?

          • Sherbet

            Only if she doesn’t need a phone connection to make contact.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Whose crowd picture did you rip off for this Kuba? Cause we know it’s not yours.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Dammit, I don’t care what anyone says, I’m sure that Kuba and Joy are going to make $cn great again real soon! From Z list wannabe celebs, to marquee headliners, these two young $cilons have obviously got what it takes to rise to the very top of the $cilon Celebrity Centre’s list of greatest entertainers ever appearing before a cult audience.

      I sincerely hope that the SuMP will be broadcasting their duet live to the billions around the world who’ve been waiting patiently for its premiere as a global multi-media giant…we’ve waited long enough, the WORLD has waited long enough!

      • Sherbet

        Somebody, put a cold cloth on Harpoona’s forehead.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          I’ll prepare the fainting couch.

    • I want my Postulates back!

  • Newiga

    It’s been a rough day but… *sets alarm for 5 am* I’ll join you guys for the live blogging. Please make me a big pot of strong black coffee. πŸ˜‰ Till then, Bunkeroos!

  • Jgg2012

    “Did the LAPD actually visit Shelly, as Lt. Dawson told us, or did it only check with a church attorney, as Remini’s book claims?” And, how do they know that it was Shelly whom they talked to? She has been out of public light for years: it’s hard to say what she looks like now.

    • Qbird

      I am hoping we do find out this information. It would be good to know that she is alive.
      for certain & for true.

  • Leah may be close to her first journalistic scoop! (Remember to bring brown envelopes in future): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cd682a80d5df9733a8c356e967eebcd6877072b3604e01fbadbd7539d3f58d78.jpg

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I love the “missing” poster πŸ™‚

    • Mooser42001

      That’s one heck of a journalistic shoop!

    • John Prince

      You Guys are really getting GOOD at this!..I can hardly wait for Tuesday nights anymore..

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Breaking News 12/13/2016

    Leaked Lyrics
    with our poetry correspondents, the IgNoble Prize Committee and Remington Colt

    A source close to the heart of the galaxy of genius that is the postulated hotel complex
    in Las Vegas has managed to forward us a complete copy of the lyrics, fruit of an artistic
    collaboration akin to that of James and Joyce.
    Rejoyce.

    “We Are the Whirled”
    Authors: God of Pop Kuba Ka and Princess Joy Villa
    All images copyleft by Thorsten “Von” Overcoat

    Human rights, inhuman rites
    Human rights, inhuman rites
    Human rights, inhuman rites

    These are believed to be the complete lyrics.
    The signature device of repetition reminds one of that classic,
    if much maligned, poem, “Do me, Little Viking Daddy”
    The reference may be to Mayan sacrifice
    or to the Hole (that does not exist.)

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/897171480f6b822d9c3278372136b6e7d33c9b689791753dffe5494ce799eef2.jpg

    • Sherbet

      Michael Jackson, with all his talent, was only the King of Pop. This poseur with the Gomer Pyle hair fringe is the God of Pop. If Jackson weren’t already dead, this would kill him.

      • April

        MJ had more talent in his toenail clippings than this stupid fuck Kuba Ka has in his whole fucking body.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Scientology Policy Directive
    Policy on Missing Persons

    It is a technical fact that a thetan, as himself, can never be missing. However, due to implants and amnesia on the wholetrack, a thetan can seem to be missing.

    And so it happens that when a thetan seems to be missing that his or her family members or friends will have an aberrated computation that the police should be called.

    It is HIGH CRIME to call the police on any Scientology Organizations.

    It is a VERY HIGH SERIOUS CRIME to call the police if COB’s 2D has the apparency of being missing when she is theoretically locatable were COB to care enough to have his memory refreshed. However, busy as he is with the press of opening new Ideal Orgs and piloting OTIX-OTLXVIII for delivery aboard The Freewinds, COB does not care to be distracted from his global ecclesiastical duties with questions about his 2D that he does not care to answer.

    To reiterate: A thetan is never missing. Therefore any complaints about missing persons are based upon a misunderstood about the nature of a thetan.

    Furthermore, any person who makes a complaint that a Scientologist is missing does not understand the nature of the Third Dynamic. A Scientologist is a member of the group known as Scientology and Scientology can never be missing because it always existed for four quadrillion years. To say that a Scientologist is a missing person cannot be a true statement because Scientology is intrinsic to this universe and this universe is obviously not missing. The handling here is to have the complainant do a locational in which they go outside and spot things until they cognite that the universe is obviously not missing.

    Once the complainant comes up to Present Time and realizes that the universe is not missing he or she will realize that thetans are also not missing and in fact are everywhere in abundance as the universe is based upon quantity. Indeed, the OT levels exist to awaken and handle thetans who think they are missing, sleeping, or, like COB’s 2D, appear to be unlocatable even by wog police officials whom we have paid to safepoint Scientology Organizations and COB.

    Note: If the complainant does not come up to Present Time, drop their complaint, and still insists on calling the police then refer the matter to OSA Intel for Fair Game handling. OSA PR is to deny that Scientology practices Fair Game.

    • tl;dr

      where’s Shelly?

      • Qbird

        not missing! (according to COS scripture)
        That is all.

        • can we all pretend to be “clear” (or whatever it takes) for a minute and have someone go let her know she can come out of hiding stop working so hard so we can congratulate her on a job well done?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        tl;dr = NCG

        Shelly is in the MEST universe as explained in the SPD. The handling here, also explained in the SPD, is for you to do a locational until you cognite that the MEST universe is obviously not missing and therefore Shelly cannot be missing despite apparencies to the contrary.

        • NCG = #zerofucks

          in an effort to maintain our very professional relationship, i’ve gone back and read the SPD. believe it or not, i actually don’t think she’s missing, either. i just wanted to send her some flowers … pay no attention to the small sharp object taped to the bottom of the vase. thanks.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I’d ring the police of a suspicious vehicle filming me outside of my family’s house. I’ve lived in Washington State, they’ll show up. Doesn’t hurt to say he’s drunk to get a quicker response,.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Harpoona Frittata

      Does anyone know if Shelly has any non-$cilon relatives who might also be interested in what became of her? She’s been in the cult since she was a youngster and has probably been out of touch with her extended family for a very long time, but there’s likely to be someone out there who still remembers her and is concerned.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I don’t think so.

  • Tony Ortega

    Guys, I’ve written “The Wrath of Mary Kahn” three times for the title and then erased it. Please make me stop.

    • Robert Hanna Moore

      Do it.

    • Sherbet

      Stop it. It’s more heartbreak than wrath.

    • don’t look at me, i encourage this type of behaviour

    • Nat-leficent

      Yes, yes, you’re very clever — now write a real headline — you can do it. I believe in you.

    • flyonthewall

      I’ll have to insist you keep that title

    • Jimmy3

      Thats really cheesey, boss. Scrap it.

      Go with “There’s Something About The Wrath of Mary Kahn”

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Or ‘How Do You Solve A Problem Like Mary Kahn’.

        • Rasha

          ‘Mary, Mary, Quite Kahntrary’.

    • Rasha

      …hold on, I’m fixing the reactor.

      • Rasha

        …okay… done…. ship…out of…. danger? You are… and always will be.. my… Proprietor…..

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Check the missile bays to make sure those pesky Moxons haven’t been playing about again!

    • LongtimeLurker

      No.

      Please do it.

      You’ll never have this chance again.

    • Rita G

      No! Do it!

    • I take it that, that’s who is featured in tonight’s episode?

      • Tony Ortega

        Someone hasn’t seen the previews.

        • Ugh. I don’t even have A&E so I can’t even watch it until tomorrow.

          • Qbird

            me neither, Derek, but it will be live blogged, right here ~ cheers! )

          • Kim O’Brien

            i don’t have a TV ;(

            • Qbird

              yabbut, we still got front row seats, O’Brien!

            • I just upgraded. I’ll send you my old one. It’s a Vizio 48in LED

            • flyonthewall

              in pawn again?

            • Kim O’Brien

              i have not had one for like ..almost 4 years i think . My ex loved Fox news …i got rid of the both of them and my house is peaceful and feels good .

        • Eivol Ekdal

          I came late to the game today. I have seen talk of these ‘Previews’ but not any real evidence!

    • MarcabExpat

      Pleasedontstopwriteitwriteitwriteit.

    • Ella Raitch

      Stop you? Now that would just be silly.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      It falls trippingly off the tongue. And page. It sounds so good. But, you know it doesn’t really communicate the horror of the situation, and Mary Kahn doesn’t deserve to be painted with the (psudo) memory of Khan Noonien Singh from the movie. Let it go.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Hahaha! I see why!

    • arcinva

      And this is why we love you. πŸ™‚

  • Liberated

    When I think of Shelly, I wonder if the poor girl ever gets the opportunity to leave the “prison compound”
    and say maybe go to Target or any retail store and shop on a leisurely Saturday afternoon to buy some personal items for herself.
    To browse the aisles maybe buy some shampoo, socks, perhaps some makeup, you know like normal adult people do.
    We humans in the real world take these small pleasures for granted even something as ordinary as going to the grocery store and buying something she wants to eat not what is forced upon her.
    Those simple pleasures are what make life enjoyable and we don’t know how much we love those things until we no longer have them.

    I truly hope something develops from Leah’s letters and that poor girl is rescued.

    • Tony Ortega

      No, she doesn’t. As I reported a few years ago, she told her sisters that the only way she’ll get to leave the base is for a funeral. She was referring to a dying aunt in the family, but Mike Rinder pointed out to me that it’s hard not to interpret that as meaning she knows she’ll never leave until her own funeral.

      She does not leave the base.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        If she only had true M.E.S,T. this wouldn’t be a problem. I bet she has rotten teeth right out of Gray Gardens.https:
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhVNR4B1zzo

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Sad, and just like Heber.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Eivol Ekdal

      Hey! I Know that Guy!

    • Chee Chalker

      Never trust a dude with a cravat
      Or a tunic

      But always trust a dude with a beard (not the John Travolta kind)

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nqb8uzq5_ls&sns=em

    • OOkpik

      As a teen, I was used as slave labor for a year by a woman on an isolated farm in northern Alberta. It was heavy labor, looong hours, no pay and psychological and physical abuse. Someone who knew my predicament apparently called Child Protective services, who sent someone out to question me and offer help. Out of pure fear, I denied everything, saying that I had just come up for a vacation and was helping out around the place.

      I often think of the people who cared enough to try to help me and how frustrating it must have been for them that I did not cooperate. πŸ™ They knew!

      I’m sad for people like Shelly who find themselves between a rock and a hard place. I get it!

  • RSF32

    I’m just going to get some popcorn.

  • MEL

    Go Leah

  • Rita G

    Muahhahahahaha! Don’t you love it when Scientology pisses off the wrong person? Go get ’em Leah!

    • TrishRan

      If they know so much about how human minds work, and how to make them work better, how come they couldn’t spot Leah Remini for someone who might open her Big Yap and make them look really bad? (and I say Big Yap with all due respect for her and what she’s revealing)

  • Tony Ortega

    Episode preview going up in a few minutes.

    • flyonthewall

      EPISODEPREVIEWPICKITUP! *ding*

    • MarieSue

      Yay! I was literally in the jungle with no cell service for the first two episodes…thank xenu for A&E on demand.

  • Tony Ortega

    NEW POST IS UP

    • flyonthewall

      NEWPOSTPICKITUP! *ding*

  • Alice Graves

    InTouch weekly reported this week that Nicole Kidman is planning a “tell-all” in their article about Leah Remini’s exposures about the cult. Has anyone here with connections heard that as well?

    • Tony Ortega

      That rumor started in the Enquirer a week ago. Smells like bullshit to me.

    • MarieSue

      There’s a bit more conjecture on what will be in NK’s book, all of it from “sources” in a December 8th Inquisitor article.

    • Vaquera
      • TrishRan

        Usually the punishment for violating an NDA is financial – losing alimony, paying a fine or a settlement to the other party. If someone gets rich enough and is highly motivated, an NDA is not insurmountable.

  • pluvo

    OT/Just watched a talk show where also Priscilla Presley was as a guest in German TV. It was all about
    Elvis and his music and their life. Not one word about Scientology.
    Markus Lanz, the host, was also having Marty Rathbun with Ursula Caberta as a guest five years ago.

  • Bob Crouch

    Question: Was the whole Leah-Shelly dustup handled only by the LAPD? For some reason I thought that the Sheriff’s office got involved as well? If so, who (I guess cult lapdog Baca was still in charge). Anyone know?

    • Bob Crouch

      For those who still read this “old” comment section and wonder the same thing. Tony sez:

      “Just LAPD. Sheriff’s office not involved.”

      My bad! Just want to clean it up…

      • TrishRan

        If LAPD got no results, maybe approaching the sheriff’s office might be a good idea.

        • Bob Crouch

          In fact, I am a bit surprised that the Sheriffs did not handle this in the first place. It appears that Shelly is in an unincorporated area.

          Then again, I guess it depends whom Leah was complaining to.

          • TrishRan

            If I were in LA, looking for someone who I last knew to have lived in LA, I’d probably go tot he LAPD first, too.

            • Bob Crouch

              But she wasn’t. She was last known to have lived in Hemet, quite a ways from LA.

              I don’t know if Hemet is an incorporated area with a police force. But I seriously doubt that the middle of nowhere where Shelly now lives has a police force. So I would expect the Sheriff would be in charge there.

            • TrishRan

              I don’t really know anything about the geography of southern CA. I was saying that if I lived in LA and the person I was missing was someone whom I’d last known to live in LA, the LAPD is where I would start.

            • Bob Crouch

              Understood πŸ‘

  • Fink Jonas

    Following Amy Scooby….where those people think they are, Cuba? Re; questions to LAPD, love it that’s gonna rise some eyebrows….because now Leah she is not just asking for Shelly, she is inquiring into their procedures thru a Lawyer, so yeh the $%>%%^t storm is about to start, and I’m dancing!

    • TrishRan

      Some of the most powerful scenes in Going Clear were the scenes in which the “Squirrel Squads” were harassing people like Marty Rathbun and his wife – and they didn’t make this viewer think there was something wrong with the Rathbuns, it made the people with the cameras on their heads doing all the screaming look like idiots and crazy people. Turning the cameras on them is a very effective way to let their own awful behavior show who the real crazies are.

      Definitely rooting for Amie Scobee, Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder, Leah Remini, Jason Beghe – and all the other, non-famous people like Mary Kahn, who are standing up in the face of this abuse.

  • TrishRan

    This is an issue with the COS in LA, but also with, say the FLDS in Colorado City/Short Creek – when people are both employed by the police and members of a church – and they act as church staff while wearing the uniform. Sending cops to check on Shelly Miscavige who turn up in COS videos is like never sending any officers to check on her, and is just like the FLDS police officers returning escapees back to the place they just tried to leave. America needs to do something about this.

  • scottishinlondon

    “That’s classified” – seriously? Matter of national security is it? What a chump

    • TrishRan

      Well, if you could keep the world from knowing that you were stomped by the COS the way the IRS was, would you not try to keep it a secret from the rest of us?

    • Bob Crouch

      The cop sounds suspiciously like Tommy Davis. And people wonder whether the LAPD is doing the cult’s bidding…

  • John Prince

    Attention! Give me a few tips here Bunkerites, I just got an e-mail from co$ here in Frankfurt, Germany
    (I took the good old oca test online ,wanted to make sure I was still a manic depressive/ticking time-bomb on the verge of a nervous breakdown/suicide or much worse like they tried to convince me in 1987! ) I used my real name, same as 30 yrs. ago when I laughed in their faces and apparently it didn’t set off alarm bells on their state-of-the-art computer-telex system because they sent me a number to call to make an appointment; would like to “go over my test results with me personally ” it seems. .they aren’t aware that I already know my test results (grins wickedly) I’m asking for help from the Experts here, what’s the best way to rub their noses in their own poop here..should I call and ask about Xenu, right off the bat? ask them if they’re watching Leah’s series?

    • TrishRan

      Hi John Prince

      Just posted about the personality test in reply to your post on the article about last night’s episode of Leah Remini Scientology & the Aftermath.

      Ask about Xenu? How about asking “Where’s Shelly?” That question really gets the ball rolling!

      • John Prince

        Greetings TrishRan! Are my SuperWog senses failing me or are You a “never-in” like me?

        • TrishRan

          Greetings, John Prince,

          Your SuperWog sense are spot on, I was never in. I lived in St Pete FL in the years shortly after COS started moving into Clearwater, and so was interested at arm’s length.

          It’s been around a year since I posted any comments on this thread.

          • John Prince

            I had a GF back East,where I come from,who spent time in Clearwater back then and I remember her bitching about how scientologists were ruining the Place! My first and last encounter with Scio happened 30 years ago when they tricked me into taking the oca test and actually got me curious enough to drive down to the scio-center a mile or two down the street .I got a DESPERATE phonecall maybe an hour after I filled out their peculiar “questionaire” which turned out to be the “oca” saying I NEEDED to drop everything and come straight to the scio-center, They URGENTLY needed to discuss my test-results with me!! the thing was,though,I had just smoked a fat joint of good California skunk-bud so I was stoned out of my Pumpkin and ready for a good laugh ANYWAY (plus I wanted to see the little Cutie again who rang my doorbell and handed me her “questionaire”) SO. .
            I went there, already giggleing at these fools wondering why they so desperatly needed to talk to me? After listening to this sci-bot for maybe 5 or 10 minutes telling me how I was doomed and ONLY Scientology could save me I couldn’t keep a straight face anymore and I busted up laughing in the guy’s face, laughed all the way outta the place, the poor bastard was ready to cry..now I know why. .he was probably punished for NOT signing me up! Never heard from them again..kinda funny, huH?

            • TrishRan

              Being in St Pete, I was somewhat isolated from what they were doing in Clearwater, but I remember that they tried to frame the Mayor of Clearwater for a hit-and-run car accident that never happened.

              I wouldn’t be surprised if a rush-rush-rush technique works on a certain percent of people.

              For a semester in college, I lived near the Tottenham Court Road Scientology office, and often had to pass by to get to the Tube station. There were always a group outside trying to pull in passersby. I got so sick of it, one day, one of them said, “Excuse me-” and I said, “There is no excuse for you”.

              I was never again approached. Which I found slightly creepy, as it must have been communicated to everyone who did sidewalk duty to not approach me. On the other hand, it made my day nicer to not have to go to the trouble of fending them off every time I wanted to take the Tube somewhere.

            • John Prince

              So You were branded a WWA, Same as me eh? (wog with an attitude ) Congratulations! I’ve heard of people who were hounded for years or even Decades after checking out a scio-center somewhere or just taking their funny test on the street..I bet they not only threw away my number but had osa look up who my friends were. .so they’d never call or contact them either! I saved that “test graph-sheet” for years (wish I’d framed it ) I swear, I still chuckle about that sci-bot who’s stats I crashed that day. .

            • TrishRan

              Wow – I didn’t even know I’d earned a brand!

            • Mymy88

              Such fuckers!

    • Bob Crouch

      I guess it all depends on how long you want the fun to last. But you could act all innocent for a while. After all, it’s common knowledge that there is only one group of people who haven’t heard about Xenu: scilons who haven’t paid up (I mean “donated” up).

      In any event, you have found yourself some tenacious and prolific pen pals.

      • John Prince

        I’m not so sure how tenatious they’d be. .after the last time I took the “test” 30 years ago, I never heard from them again, even after I went to the scientology center of my own free will and listened to their sales Pitch! (just read my last reply to TrishRan if you want a good chuckle! )

  • Hierophant2

    The chief of the LAPD is @LAPDChiefBeck
    I’m sure he’d love to hear from you. No doubt he loved receiving my tweets.

    @LAPDChiefBeck Leah Remini has put you on legal notice. You have duty to release this information. We have the right to know #wheresshelley.