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‘Miss Lovely’ in London: Paulette Cooper writes another chapter in her amazing story

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On Saturday, Paulette Cooper met a man named Peter de Hoo for the first time. Her husband Paul captured the moment in this photograph. For those of you who have read our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely, you may already know what a significant meeting this is.

In 2011, we met Paulette for the first time at a breakfast in New York after corresponding with her for years. She was already well known for being the most legendary target for the Church of Scientology’s infamous “Fair Game” policy of ruination after the publication of her 1971 book The Scandal of Scientology. But at that breakfast, not all of the discussion was about L. Ron Hubbard’s spies: Paulette also happened to mention that she and her sister Suzy had still never figured out how the two of them had survived the Holocaust in Belgium, when they were small children. We mentioned that fact in the story we wrote about our meeting for the Village Voice, and a couple of newspapers in Belgium and the Netherlands picked up on it. Soon, Paulette began to hear from de Hoo, who claimed that his father, Sijbren de Hoo, had been a close friend to Paulette’s biological parents, Chaim and Ruchla Bucholc (Paulette’s birth name was Paula Bucholc).

Paulette got us involved, and the two of us quizzed Peter to make sure what he was saying was authentic. He soon proved without a doubt that his father had been a close friend of Chaim Bucholc, a Polish leatherworker who had emigrated to Antwerp in the late 1920s. Peter not only had a leather item, a bookcover, Chaim had made for his friend Sijbren, but the de Hoo family also had in its possession a photograph of Paulette’s sister as a young child. With the help of the de Hoo family, and the meticulous records kept by the Nazis, we were able to piece together the fates of Paulette’s parents, who were sent to Auschwitz to be killed, and to get a solid idea of how Paulette and Suzy had avoided that fate. The two of them, like their parents, had been brought to a concentration camp and were scheduled to be sent to Auschwitz in the summer of 1943, but Sijbren de Hoo and other close friends scrambled to raise enough cash and black market goods to bribe the corrupt commandant of the camp, and the girls were smuggled to the first of several orphanages that became their refuge. In 1948, Paulette was adopted by Ted and Stella Cooper of New York, and she’s lived in the US ever since. Without Sijbren de Hoo and a few others, however, she would not have survived the war. And now, for the first time, she was meeting Sijbren’s son.

“He’s a terrific guy. We talked all day,” was all we could get out of Paulette about her meeting with Peter. We hope to get more when she has a little more time. (And by the time this story appears, there may already be a piece in the Daily Mail about their meeting with more details — we’ll add a link if that’s the case. UPDATE: Here’s the story in the Daily Mail.)

Paulette made her way to London on a cruise ship. Paul sent us this photo of her, and slyly mentioned that this time, at least, she’s not a stowaway…

 
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Again, readers of Miss Lovely will be in on that one. In 1970, in order to make a splash as a magazine writer, Paulette became the first woman in modern cruising history to become a stowaway, spending a week without a ticket on the Leonardo da Vinci for a trip to the Caribbean and back to New York. She later wrote up the experience for the Washington Post and the London Sunday Times.

When she got to London this week, Paulette met with our publisher, Humfrey Hunter, who was on stage with us just a few weeks ago at Conway Hall…

 
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After our talk at Conway Hall, we repaired to the Old Nick pub and had a drink with the likes of Jon Atack and Peter Griffiths. And so Paulette met many of the same people at the Old Nick herself. We only wish we could have been there! Here she is with Chris Owen, Griffiths, and Atack…

 
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And with the rest of the motley crew. Can you name them all?

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Jenna Elfman and Kate Ceberano — plotting Scientology’s takeover?

 
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…At the same time that Nancy Cartwright is comparing notes with Denice Duff? Is this a Scientology celebrity operation developing? (Um, probably not, but…)

 
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Hey, which of our experts recognizes this Freedom Medal winner, spotted at the Fort Harrison?

 
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Some photos are starting to come in of last night’s Clearwater Centennial musical celebration at the Fort Harrison Hotel…

 
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Mayor George Cretekos (left) gave Congressman and US Senate candidate David Jolly some kind of proclamation. Hey, what’s the point of attending a Scientology party if you don’t go home with a cert?

 
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Actress and Scientologist Anne Archer was the master of ceremonies…

 
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BOOK NOTES
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We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Tony Ortega’s upcoming appearances (and check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour)…

 
Sept 15: Phoenix, Barrett the Honors College, Arizona State University, ASU in Downtown Phoenix campus, Walter Cronkite Theater, 5:30 pm

Sept 23: Cleveland, Parma Heights Library, 7pm sponsored by Center for Inquiry – Northeast Ohio

Sept 24: Minneapolis, sponsored by Minnesota Atheists — venue TBD

Sept 27: Portland, Friendly House, 1737 NW 26th Ave, 12:45 pm, sponsored by Humanists of Portland

Sept 28: Seattle, Razzi’s Pizzeria, 7 pm, with Seattle Skeptics and Seattle Atheists

Sept 29: Vancouver, BC, Seven Dining Lounge, 7 pm

Oct 23: Sydney, Giant Dwarf Theatre (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 25: Melbourne, venue secured (announcement coming later)

Oct 28: Adelaide (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 30: Perth

Past dates: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on August 30, 2015 at 07:00

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UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists

GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice

SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

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The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill
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Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Vaquera

    This afternoon, several of you asked if Chick Corea performed at last night’s concert at the Fort Harrison.
    I do my best to please you people.

    Sorry I don’t know how to lift the vid out of Facebook.
    Try to enjoy…but I doubt it. Lame-ish.

    https://www.facebook.com/karenadeanne/videos/vb.1003295956/10206725468067668/?type=2&theater

    • Kestrel

      Thank you, Vaquera.

      • Vaquera

        Pas de quoi.

    • Libertylover

      What was that? Beyond lame. Sounds like some kind of Buddhist chanting in spots.
      Why do Scientologists laugh inappropriately together at meetings in unison, some kind of bizarre bonding?
      This is a good indication that it was mostly Sci’s in attendance and so few, beyond embarrassing.
      I feel ashamed myself and for them too and oddly voyeuristic as well. SAD, Very sad.

      • Kestrel

        Audience-participation jazz fusion is difficult to appreciate from recordings. No. I’m not buying that, either.

    • ReallyMGM

      That was peculiar.

      Thank you for posting. I hope they didn’t spend much on the tickets.

    • Kay

      Oh wow…..sing along funeral music, how fun is that? (eye roll)

      • beauty for ashes

        Why is your face still missing?

        • Kay

          I have NO idea…I tried to attach it again, and it wouldn’t attach…so I tried a couple of other photos from my cell phone that were on my hard-drive, and they wouldn’t attach. Then I tried just an online avi, no luck there. I guess I’m having some kind of computer issue.

          • beauty for ashes

            You should contact Disqus and complain. It doesn’t sound like a computer issue.

            • Kay

              OK…I will do that. I have tried several times…very annoying.

    • Mark

      …after which they all went into a swift chorus of Ta-Ra-Ra-Boom-De-Ay?

    • well, that was rubbish…

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      That was like a hypnotic, musical TR.

  • aegerprimo

    New TUML photos added to my Flickr account –
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/132611082@N08/

    • Vaquera

      Thank you for collecting them, aeger.

  • Mockingbird

    Here is a collection of posts imported from Ask The Scientologist.
    Scientology and the Universal Declaration of Human Rights
    http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/08/scientology-and-universal-declaration.html
    Scientologists: Was LRH Stupid
    http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/08/scientologists-was-lrh-stupid.html

  • Juan Negro

    Trying to recognize the DBag with the Freedom Medal of Valor token…is that a young Bernie Maddof?

  • What a day!!

    Fascinating new chapter in this epic life story! I’m really happy for Paulette!

    Congrats to Fred G. Haseney with his Exitversary!

    Happy Birthday to 5 Feet Long and Luminous and to BraveBloggers‘ grand baby!!

    I never in my life had so many Birthday wishes before, you guys are truly wonderful.
    Thank you my Bunker family for all the love. Thank you very much. Love you more.

    • B4you

      No shit! πŸ™‚ Happy B’day!

    • Mark

      Many, many happy returns πŸ™‚

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Keep rockin bro.

    • Observer

      Happy birthday!

    • TexasBroad

      Love YOU more!

    • Jimmy3

      If you have too many, I will hold on to some of them for you.

    • Mockingbird

      I know you are really much younger than your avatar so you can enjoy many more birthdays !!!

    • beauty for ashes

      Dodo, I ate too much pizza. **food coma**
      The right picture had nice birthday wishes on it.
      Sorry .Blerg.
      Is it weird I think the dog looks like you? (don’t answer that)

      • StudentOfLife

        You did see the pic Dodo posted of himself a few weeks ago? Our birthday boy looks as cool as the great entheta he brings to the Bunker. Plus his music is always worth checking. Happy Birthday Dodo!

        • beauty for ashes

          I don’t recall seeing that. Was I close about the dog anyway? lol

    • SP Wogsy

      Did you enjoy your day?

      I’m taking a break from family visit. They talk too much.

      • I am still enjoying it and I hope you do too. πŸ™‚ Thank you!

    • many happy returns old chap…. here are some people that share the same day

      • Warren Buffett is my fave DJ on that list.

      • Jimmy3

        Warren Buffet looks fucking great for 85.

      • Kim O’Brien

        EVERYONE should know by now …when someone posts a photo of a beautiful man …..text me , call me , tweet me , bat signal me ….!!!! πŸ™‚

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          I drove past another street this weekend that made think about you. Unfortunately, it was no where near Sarong, but it’s a good one. I did not get a photo, but it’s called Chippendale Lane.

    • Suzanna Nielsen

      Happy Birthday, Dodo!
      Consider yourself bearhugged πŸ˜‰

    • phoebequeen

      Happy, happy.

    • Kay

      Happy birthday to you..
      Happy birthday to you..
      Happy birthday dear Dodo,
      Happy Birthdayyy too yooouuuuuuuu !!!!

      • Kay

        Oops forgot to add my visual aid: Here are some lasers for you !! whoo-hoo!!

        • Kay

          AND a Dodo !

          • SP Wogsy

            Heehee!

            • Kay

              Glad you have “likingness” for these. (That’s Jimmy3 vocabulary)

            • Jimmy3

              I’m not a Scientologist.

            • Kay

              Yeah but you play one on TV

            • Mockingbird

              I promise not to hold that against you.

            • SP Wogsy

              Sorry, I was busy flirting with a cute Scientologist/spreading entheta on Twitter huh what?
              Okay, I’m back. Um, yes, I have lots of likingness for this pic.

              Edited.

            • Kay

              LOL !! Did you have fun tweeting?

    • K2P2(KnitNut)

      Count me in too. Happy birthday Dodo! Hope it was a great one!

    • Ella Raitch

      Back at ya!

    • Sid

      Coming in late for a quick fly by, but didn’t want to miss wishing you a happy birthday. Have a great one my friend.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Happy birthday Dodo. Hope it was a great day.

    • Illinoisian

      Late to the party here on the prairie in Illinois. Happy Birthday, Dodo, this one and many more.

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      Happy Birthday Dodo ! πŸ™‚

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      BB’s got a grand baby, what?! Congratulations, my dear!! August totally rules. ; )

      • Donna Cline Sargent

        Happy Birthday to you too ! πŸ™‚

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Thank you!

      • Yes he/she did! It’s a boy.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Yay! Bunker champagne for everyone!

          • TheMirrorThetan

            Happy Birthday to you, 5 Feet. Have a terrific day.

            • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

              Thanks so much!

        • daisy

          Another Happy Birthday to you both. I hope you had a great day, the two of you make mine on a regular basis. Sleep tight you will both need it when your my age and have to go to the bathroom every five minutes. (no jokes needed I made up my own)love daisy

      • gtsix

        Happy Birthday!

    • Missionary Kid

      Add my birthday happy wishes to the group of others. You’ve been a real stalwart here.

    • ShevilKat

      Happy Birthday, DoDo! I hope you had a wonderful day.

    • Pierrot

      I have not had the opportunity before to wish you happy birthday:
      Happy birthday, wishing you many happy returns of the day.

    • ObsessedReader

      Happy Birthday, dear Dodo! You are a sweet and kind person and often the voice of reason when needed. Your contribution to this blog is immeasurable. Thank you for all you do! xo

    • gtsix

      Oooh happy day! hope it’s fabulous!

  • beauty for ashes

    Happy birthday Dodo!
    Happy Exitversary Fred!
    f5

  • phoebequeen

    Wow, that is some story.

  • Jimmy3

    post

    • SP Wogsy
      • Kay

        I can see that.

      • Jimmy3

        Oh, that guy again.

        • SP Wogsy

          He’s cute. Too bad. So sad.

          • Jimmy3

            He’s an idiot. Like, a “he should legally have to wear mittens” level of idiocy.

            • SP Wogsy

              I purposely mentioned Xenu on another tweet of his because he is OT2, and he never responded. I honestly didn’t think he would keep responding to my tweet after my ‘have a good sunday’ which I thought was hilarious.

              You’re right, he seems to be pretty air-headed. I assume he thinks I worship the dalai lama b/c I re-tweeted a quote of his. Even if he is an idiot, he still seems quite friendly, so I’m just gonna keep the line open. You never know.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              His one will yield better results with honey than vinegar. Keep it as friendly banter. He seems to need that. I think he’s a good guy who has stumbled into a bad situation. Example:
              “Let’s be friendly, ok?”
              “Finally we agree on something. I am a nice guy. #LOL! Maybe if you’d been nicer we could’ve talked more”

              Clam friendliness (though false) is what draws a lot of people into CO$. Sincere friendliness shown by someone who truly cares, can also help them find the way out. He probably just needs friends (and Hollywood connections) and thinks that the CO$ will help him with that. That is their big selling point here. If
              you take a soft and friendly approach I think he could be steered into a better
              place. He gets defensive about CO$ because maybe that’s all he’s got. Go for it girl!

            • SP Wogsy

              Initially, I posted something not-so-nice. I deleted and sent the “you seem nice” tweet. I am trying to be as nice as possible with the limited amount of space twitter allows, but I also wanted to make sure the xenu tweet got through sincehe is on OT2. You’re right he is a friendly one. : )

              We’ll see how this goes. I am just surprised he didn’t block me earlier and kept responding to my tweets.

              edited.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              I think that some clams may be like a person adrift in the ocean. Regardless of how he got there, one day he may grow tired of having to continuously tread water just to keep his head above the waves and then life back on shore might start to look enticing. If at that very moment a lifeboat appears and the person on board angrily starts screaming insults at him, calls him an idiot and says that everyone back on shore knows this, he’d be justifiably reluctant to get into the boat. But if the lifeboat is filled with smiling, friendly faces, excited to lend him a helping hand into the boat, and reminds him of the great experiences awaiting to him onshore and the folks who will be celebrating his return…

              Sail on SP Wogsy – you’re doing great!

            • StudentOfLife

              I posted here earlier today from outside a Starbucks in Ventura and the young guy with a well defined body with a tanktop next to me mentioned, when I asked had he seen Going Clear, (he had) that three cute ladies were going around to all the guys hanging out skateboarding or standing around in our parks approaching guys only asking them to take a personality test. I asked how did he know they were Scientologists. He said they asked him a few weeks ago and were very friendly, one even flirting with him but he had seen their act before and knew the coming bait and switch after seeing Going Clear. He rides a motorcycle a lot and says they always work in tandems at least with the same good looking girls offering the tests. He’s run into at least two of the girls several times since his first encounter trying to lure young men into their trap, as he termed it. I told him about the Bunker as he said these girls are very creepy since he knows what they are up to but they really do flirt with the guys
              . Thank you HBO!

      • beauty for ashes

        Somehow from that, I skipped over from person to person until I was reading Gwyneth Paltrow’s tweets like forever.
        Okay it was just around 25 minutes. (nothing against her~ just twitter is weird and I’m not going back there)

        • SP Wogsy

          Another vortex in the internet that got me. He was a fun one.

      • Mockingbird

        Is E-meter reader a Scientologist or a satirical critic ? I can’t tell.

        • SP Wogsy

          Initially, I thought so, but he appears to be a true believer.

          • Mockingbird

            Yikes.

            • SP Wogsy

              I know, right?

      • Susan_Qbird_Poche

        hmmm… what would Ron do?

  • Kay

    Soo…..he IS a Scientologist, then. hahahahah

    • SP Wogsy

      Ha! Zactly.

  • Jimmy3
    • beauty for ashes

      German Film “Until Nothing Remains” was very scary. And that is not Mark Bunker!

      • Jimmy3

        He is Mark Bunker. He is just a different, less wise, less beard, less man version of Mark Bunker.

        • beauty for ashes

          No it isn’t! They put a picture up of some guy, with journalist Mark Bunker written under it. And said, “According to Mark Bunker blah blah blah.”
          DO they think we won’t know the difference between a real Mark Bunker, or some robot clone?

          • Jimmy3

            He said “MSNBC journalist Mark Bunker” and I just assumed he was talking about a completely different guy. But a few initial searches bring up no such person. I dunno…

    • Vaquera

      Have you watched Real Genuis yet? (It’s not Scio-related. I just think you might like it)

      • daisy

        Have not seen it in years, but remember very ffunny

        • Vaquera

          “A girl’s got to have her standards”

      • Jimmy3

        No. But last week I saw The Princess Bride for the first time. I am making progress on my must-watch list.

        • Vaquera

          Two of my very favs. Did you watch PB with your nieces and nephews?

          • Jimmy3

            No. She’s still too young. The only things on the TV she pays attention to are football and sing-a-long shows.

            • Jimmy3

              And Sesame Street, but that’s a given. Sesame Street is like kid crack.

            • Rasha

              Those ain’t sesame seeds…..

          • beauty for ashes

            I remember us quoting it to each other! I just lent it to my neighbor with a bunch of other movies after his wife had a stroke. I thought it was better than a card.

        • arcinva

          One of my favorite movies. It’s just so quotable! I’m glad you watched it. πŸ˜€

          • Jimmy3

            People have told me for years now that I *need* to watch it, and when I finally did, it was like watching one long internet meme. Seriously, almost every scene in that movie is a meme or a gif that I’ve seen hundreds of times. That’s how quotable it is. It was great.

            • beauty for ashes

              That’s a shame. It seems depraved you didn’t see it in your adolescence.

            • Jimmy3

              I’m sure I had several opportunities to watch it. But why would I want to watch “The Princess Bride” as a young boy? I didn’t care about that fairy tale bullshit. It’s the worst title for what it actually is.

            • beauty for ashes

              You sound just like the little boy!!
              “Is this gonna be one of those kissing scenes?”

            • ReallyMGM

              A neat little indie with Katie Holmes is on cable channel “Starz” now. “Pieces of April” with Patricia Clarkson. Very funny, very “un-Katie.” I never realized it was her until I read the credits. It’s probably the best she’s done.

        • ReallyMGM

          One of my favorite movies. Silly but so good. I watch it whenever I am scanning through channels and see it on.

      • Rasha

        So many good moments. Favorite line:

        “….What???

        Also, “Everybody Wants To Rule The World”… just sayin’.

      • gtsix

        one of my all time top 10 movies.

        Mitch: And from now on, stop playing with yourself.

        Kent: It *is* God.

    • Ronnie Miz-cav -eeege, lol

      • Jimmy3

        Yeah, I need to see The Profit and The Bridge.

        • ReallyMGM

          The Bridge is iffy to find. It was supposed to be just online, then the CoS got all after the 18 yo novice filmmaker who made it, and it was taken down. They made his/her life (and family’s) bad enough it isn’t even in her resume anymore. Felt really bad for the kid. It is on uTube, but comes and goes. It isn’t great, but worth seeing if seeing all the Scientology films is your object.

          • Jimmy3

            I don’t have to see all the films, I’m just curious about those two. Haven’t even heard of them before.

            • beauty for ashes

              There are some cameos you should see!
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D67OvQyGMF8

            • beauty for ashes

              The Bridge is up too. And Please, can someone teach me how to post a link to a youtube video without it clogging up so much space and posting it?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s-DkG6kKASc

            • Jimmy3

              If you set Disqus to “Hide Media”, pics/videos don’t load automatically.

            • noseinabk

              Where do I find this setting? Also, I have no idea why when I post a gif I can click “copy url” but it will not work with a pic. In order to post a pic I need to download it first. Explain it to me like I’m five.

            • Jimmy3

              If you click your name at the top right of where the Disqus comments load, right above the “Join the discussion…” text bar, there’s a menu option that says “Hide Media” or “Display Media”. It is a toggle option, so if it says “Display Media”, you are already hiding media, and vice versa.

              As for the gif thing, they only animate when you embed the gif from an outside source (pasting the URL into the comment), and not when you attach them via Disqus (uploading it with the attachment button). I don’t know why. It’s just how Disqus works.

            • noseinabk

              So if I post to the bunker I may choose to hide media? I try to choose the option that lets people who are on phones or at work see relevant info without refreshing or clicking on a link.

            • Jimmy3

              The Display/Hide media is client-side. It’s an option for your browser. It doesn’t affect how others see what you post.

            • Jimmy3

              And you should be able to post a pic via URL, but you have to pay attention to the file extension on the URL. If it’s not a .jpg or .png or .bmp or .gif, they often don’t embed in Disqus comments. There are other file extensions that work, too, but sometimes the URL doesn’t lead directly to an image file, and it doesn’t work.

            • noseinabk
            • noseinabk
            • ReallyMGM

              The Bridge is b/w, with boring dialog, but has a ring of authenticity to it. It was filmed in about 2 days with some ex scientologist said and student actors. The writer/director was just 18 and clueless about what would happen (OSA). Worth a watch, but rather boring. I couldn’t get past the first 10 minutes of the Profit.

  • beauty for ashes

    O/T Stephen hawking seriously has OT powers. Event Horizons and black holes are too much for me to even ponder. Think of all he has accomplished from that chair and a few muscle twitches. Wow.
    http://www.salon.com/2015/08/25/stephen_hawking_may_have_just_unlocked_one_of_sciences_biggest_mysteries/

    • SP Wogsy

      I developed a crush on him after watching the movie. I’m glad I’m over it. I don’t think it would have ended well.

      • Always Amazed

        i just watched the movie yesterday and it was amazing to ponder being him.

        • beauty for ashes

          My neighbor keeps telling me to see it.

          • ReallyMGM

            Very good movie. I skipped it at the theater, but it is lovely movie.

          • Always Amazed

            I had no desire and truly flipped by it on the TV..or so I thought. I stuck with it, it was better than I expected, not the best movie I have seen, but it was fascinating to imagine SH living his life.

      • beauty for ashes

        Don’t tell me anymore, I haven’t seen it yet. I know little about his personal life.

        • SP Wogsy

          Okay, I won’t. I don’t typically like older men but when I do it’s Stephen Hawking. It is a great movie. You should definitely watch it.

          • beauty for ashes

            Really? I’m more of a Steve Martin girl. Or heaven help me Patrick Stewart.<3 <3 <3

            • SP Wogsy

              Weird right? Yeah, I got a little crush for both the actor and the real Stephen Hawking. Ha! I seem to fall for gay guys too. : )

              Eta: patrick stewart is gay right?

            • beauty for ashes

              Ptrick Stewart is not gay!!! quick edit!!!!!

            • Jimmy3

              He’s not gay, people just think he is because he’s BFF besties with Ian McKellen, who is gay.

            • SP Wogsy

              Disregard. I was thinking of Neil Patrick Harris.

            • Jimmy3

              Everyone has a crush on Professor X. Everyone.

            • beauty for ashes

              And Jean-luc Picard, come on! **swoons*** I once undressed my friend’s action figure and he got very upset!

    • He is like real life Jedi Yoda. Seriously though, I’ve yet to see a scientologist who is also astrophysicist worth of mention. One would think all the OT/Whole Track insight should be instrumental. Crickets.

      • beauty for ashes

        If we can use science to figure out event horizons, why can’t scientology be …. aww never mind. It’s your birthday still!!!! Stephen Hawking is a JEDI!!!!!

      • Mockingbird

        A Scientologists would be held back especially if they studied and believed History of Man and other whole track space opera. As a similar idea I know a creationist who got a degree in paleontology and he has frankly idiotic sounding explanations how all the evidence of evolution and a several billion year old earth can be fake with the universe only being six to ten thousand years old. He also talks about how allowing the Holocaust and baby rapists is “good”. Because he sees it as the only possible way freedom could exist. I think he has bought a false dichotomy and a lot of other absurd fallacies. No offense creationists.

        • Hence the light years difference between scientology and Science.

          • Mockingbird

            Yes. Here are some relevant quotes from Margaret Singer’s book Cults In Our Midst.

            The more complicated and filled with contradictions the new system is and the more difficult it is to learn, the more effective the conversion process will be. ( page 67 )

            In cultic groups, the individual member is always wrong, and the system is always right ideology by beginning to talk in the simple catchphrases particular to the group. This “communication” has no foundation since, in reality, you have little understanding of the system beyond the catchphrases. ( page 68 )

            Loading the language. As members continue to formulate their ideas in the group’s jargon, this language serves the purpose of constricting members’ thinking and shutting down critical thinking abilities. At first, translating from their native tongue into “groupspeak” forces members to censor, edit, and slow down spontaneous bursts of criticism or oppositional ideas. ( page 70)

            • ReallyMGM

              I really hate the way Singer’s work was trashed by anti cult apologists and Scientology. Glad to see her name come up in positive ways here. She knew her subject and tried to help so many.

            • Mockingbird

              I am entirely impressed by her and hold what I have seen of her work in the highest regard.

          • Mockingbird

            And from Eric Hoffer’s book True Believer
            β€œIf a doctrine is not unintelligible, it has to be vague; and if neither unintelligible nor vague, it has to be unverifiable.”

        • Robert Eckert

          You need to read this classic Bunker post, biologist PZ Myers (famous for mixing it up with creationists) takes on History of Man:

          http://tonyortega.org/2013/08/09/pz-myers-helps-us-plunder-the-riches-of-l-ron-hubbards-book-of-scientology-evolution/

    • And the strange way that quantum tunnelling does the apparently impossible, enabling black holes to ‘evaporate’ over time…

  • KittyKatSpanker
    • daisy

      TWIN NIGHTMARES !!! What you see when you pound back tequila, rye and gin I one .night. You need an excorcism in the morning and no amount of more day drinking will cure it. I guess I found my line in the drinking sand

      • KittyKatSpanker
        • salin

          Sen. Sanders is interesting. Saw a gif that was a black/white image (like the old cameos) of his hairline and said something to effect of “I am for the fringe candidate”. I have him on my “watch” list (in a positive way).

        • Mockingbird

          He wants to double the minimum wage, end loopholes for corporations to hide profits in tax havens, get control of banks so another crash cannot occur, have us take care of veterans, expand social security, tax wall street to provide free college, and a lot more.

    • to add

      • Mockingbird

        And he has ties to organized crime and has been found liable for multiple ethically questionable business practices.

    • beauty for ashes

      OMG OCD I just neeeed to trim Donald Trumps eyebrows. blech.

      • Kay

        YES….it’s bugggging meeeeee a lot! Please do it…next time he asks a girl to look at his hair to prove it’s real just run up there and whip a pair of eyebrow clippers out.

        • beauty for ashes

          I would do it in a heartbeat Kay!

          • Kay

            All right !! (scribbling furiously in my notepad making plans) I can be your “spotter”. (reconnaissance and strategies coordinator) We will have fun !! If nothing else we can hit a couple of his campaign posters with bottles of white out.

            • The level of hatred you “liberal” cowards (almost all posting anonymously) display is remarkable. You’d make very effective members of David Miscavige’s entourage.

            • Jimmy3

              How’s your book coming? Did you pay back the people who funded it yet? Or do they not matter because they donated anonymously?

            • Kay

              Ummmm…guess what Skip: I’m a Republican. And I do use my real first name. And I don’t hate anybody…I do like to make fun of different candidates from all parties however.

        • Kay

          Here’s what we’ll need….

    • Mockingbird

      Birds of a feather. Or birdbrains. Trump has so many red flags as a human being I wouldn’t let him run a lemonade stand, much less a company or country.

      • Kay

        I doubt he’ll actually get elected, I think he’s a novelty at present, plus people are tired of the same old political families and political speeches, so he’s currently like a refreshing sorbet given between the meat and fish courses to cleanse the palate. Could he be the main course? I think not, but then again, who knows?

        • ReallyMGM

          I feel the same way, Kay. He is a novelty right now, but when it gets down to it, he will exit the campaign. Or people will certainly realize the guy on The Apprentice is not presidential material. At least I hope so….

          • beauty for ashes
            • Kay

              Point taken !! However at least Reagan had been a two time Governor before running that’s better than being a reality TV dude. Plus he took other’s criticisms without getting his panties all in a wad over it…Trump just goes crazy if anyone says anything against him, it’s always a personal attack, and you can’t be that way and be President unless you want to just start nuking everyone who you think insults you. It will be an odd election year, that’s for sure.

            • Kay

              P.S. I think Reagan should have only done one term.

            • ReallyMGM

              We got awfully close to nominating John Edwards, too. Dem or Rep, he was a scumbag. I would have hated to have voted for a man that treated his dying wife like that. I honestly think he would have been Hilary’s running mate that election cycle. Too close for me. He had me fooled for a long time until his trash came tumbling out.

            • Matt in Atlanta

              Who is we? I didn’t vote for that repug tool.

          • Kay

            Yeah, I really believe also that’s what will happen…hopefully.

            • ReallyMGM

              I have a very conservative friend who thinks Trump hung the moon. She has been all over every conspiracy theory he has spouted for the past 8 years. It is taking every ounce of my self control not to explode. (She had a mild stroke this year and it has made her worse about this stuff) I hope our friendship survives.

            • Kay

              I totally understand…one of my brothers thinks he is just fabulous. I have to rein myself in on the phone with him, and sometimes have to just count to ten. He’s also into conspiracy theories.

        • beauty for ashes

          It’s kind of like trying to refresh your palate with pop rocks, isn’t it?

          • Kay

            HAHAHA !!

        • Mockingbird

          He is a pathological liar and narcissist. I have had enough of that.

      • The next President, and NOTHING like Hubbard. You haven’t done any research.

        • Mockingbird

          Skip please never address me again.

          • Bite me, “Mockingbird”.

            • Mockingbird

              Skip master of personal insults. This is why people block you on Facebook.

            • It’s a free forum and a free country – for the time being, though your idols are doing their best to kill that. Get used to it, jerk.

            • anoni81b4u

              Really? name calling?
              Is this the Underground Bunker or the 2nd grade?
              Come on Skip, you should be able to express yourself without that nonsense.
              Thank you in advance πŸ™‚

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            • Veronica

              Wait… I thought knee-jerk reactions were bad.

        • Robert Eckert

          He’s a dummy, a loser, with no class. They call him a businessman because he skates through bankruptcies. I prefer businessmen who don’t go bankrupt.

          • Lol. Nicely done.

          • That shows how utterly ignorant you are of the facts. 100s of companies and four of them filed bankruptcy, which is very very normal for people who do major business, particularly those with entertainment or gambling concerns. It was never a personal bankruptcy. On the other hand, he was once one billion dollars in debt and he turned that around and now is ten billion in the black. So, like most “progressives” you rely on groupthink and soundbites and knee-jerk reactions and you don’t dig into the facts. At least you, Robert, do not operate here anonymously. Every time someone – in this case, Squawkingbird – starts this political hatred on thread here, I speak up and supposedly intelligent people go nuts. The fact is, Trump just like Bernie Sanders has tapped into an American public that is fed up with the standard fare (swill) they’ve been fed for decades now, by the Beltway bozos on both sides, and they want something different. Even strident partisans like Maureen Dowd on one side and Peggy Noonan on the other have wised up to this and said so in print. But you guys can just keep marching to the smell of your own farts and attack me if you want. Or you can find out what’s really going on, which is what Ortega does with this forum, which is about SCIENTOLOGY.

            • Robert Eckert

              This shows how utterly incapable you are of recognizing parody.

              “attack me if you want” Nobody is out to get you, but when you say disagreeable things, people will call you on it. Scientology is still a strong influence on your mind-set: you always attack, never defend; and you cannot recognize Trump for the narcissistic psychopath that he is, because you have come to think of such people as normal.

            • You big dummy – I never said anyone was out to get me. What a tired bunch of shit. You pull out that Hubbard policy every time you lose a fucking argument and say I’m doing it. And you’re still to afraid to look at any facts, you just want to assume. What a goddamned fool you are.

            • Robert Eckert

              “You pull out that Hubbard policy every time you lose a fucking argument and say I’m doing it” We haven’t even had an argument. But you are, again, demonstrating how Hubbard you are.

              “And you’re still to afraid to look at any facts, you just want to assume” Christ on crutches you can be obtuse. I was not making factual assertion about Trump’s bankruptcy, I was doing some J&D. Even though you are personally humorless you ought by now be able to understand that other people do humor, especially after you have already been told that is what is happening.

            • That’s the standard lame excuse – gee, I’m just a comedian, hahaha. And it’s bullshit.

            • Robert Eckert

              Look, I’m very sorry that the concept of humor is so alien to you. You really don’t know what you are missing. However, the least you should be able to do is to understand that humor is not the same as argumentation.

            • That really was a beautiful and succinct piece of satire RE. I really did lol πŸ™‚

            • romanesco

              Ah, well. At least the belligerent little fuck isn’t boring us with bullshit tales of how many beautiful women he fucked and all the celebrities he rubbed elbows with back in the day.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              There’s a reason we don’t engage in partisan politics here. But we do engage in humor and teasing, neither of which you are capable of understanding.

              I have flagged this.

              I am appealing to the Proprietor.

              This is not the sort of discourse I want to see in the Bunker.

            • Circle the wagons, mother fucker. I didn’t start it but maybe you’re incapable of following that.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              This has been screen captured and preserved here.

              There is no excuse. I don’t care if he’s drunk or just having a bad night. Enough is enough.

            • Agree, but Tony won’t ban Skipper. Don’t die on this hill DDD. Ignore him as best you can. That’s what I try and do. Don’t always succeed — but mostly I do.

            • beauty for ashes

              Yes, make yourself the only victim.

    • Susan_Qbird_Poche

      Holy crap! These two pho~toes, side by side, just for a moment https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8f1604df79bb578e77f9a544955d23dda4d6e820aaf67fc0bf2bfe059a0e3bab.jpg … done freaked me out!

  • … am currently in the middle of doing another piece on our favourite scientology bell-end John Alex Wood and came across this little gem… I can’t tell how old it is but his tweet link to it is from back in February…

    edit: does anybody remember the name of the scientology PR company that puts out all those bogus press releases about how scientology had amazing events around the globe that are impossible to track down?
    pic

    • beauty for ashes

      .24 ! ***tee hee***

    • noseinabk

      Prweb?
      Edited because it refused to let me type power. $#&% power. F:%&$# prweb.

      • eh?

        • noseinabk

          Sorry ML. I was trying to type PRweb and my predictive text kept changing it to power.

          • yeah, I eventually found it… I was trying to find out if there was any possible link between his company worldwidepr.net and PRweb.com…. unfortunately couldn’t see any…

            • noseinabk

              Did you see that they found a new site to post BS? I am LMAO that elle thinks that posting a link to the Ted Koppel interview with Miscavige is a good thing.

              http://www.patheos.com/Topics/Future-of-Faith-in-America/New-Religions/Scientologys-Future-Linda-Wieland-08-26-2015

            • Elle is just getting totally overwhelmed… hilarious!

            • Mockingbird

              I just gave her a few presents.

            • Mockingbird

              More elle time, that #$@=# never quits.

            • Veronica

              “I don’t know that Scientology lends itself so well to the press.” Way to start an hour-long interview with “the press,” Dave.

            • Graham

              Thanks. I’ve just been over there and said my piece.

            • PR Web seems to be just a very compliant company which will publish material on behalf of almost anybody as long as they pay (between $99 and $799). http://service.prweb.com/pricing/

          • romanesco

            Mine got to be such a pain in the ass that I turned it off.

      • Veronica

        thanks for the giggle fit

  • Ex-Christian Scientist

    Happy Birthday, Dodo! πŸ˜€

  • beauty for ashes

    O/T Wes Craven, the famed writer-director of horror films known for the Nightmare on Elm Street and Scream movies, died Sunday after a battle with brain cancer. He was 76.

    • Jimmy3

      πŸ™
      Scream is one of my favorite movies.

      • ReallyMGM

        RIP Wes. You scared the crap out of me with The Nightmare on Elmstreet (original).

        • gtsix

          I still get goosebumps (goose pimples to some crazy folks πŸ˜‰ ) when I hear 1, 2 Freddy’s coming for you. 3, 4…… acch, got them now!

    • LongtimeLurker

      WHAT?!?!

      gdmnit

      sads

      • beauty for ashes
        • LongtimeLurker

          I’MLOSINGMYMIND!

          whew.

          Those were great. Thank you.

          Saved to HD. Considering making a hammock for housemate’s cat.

          • beauty for ashes

            Quick question, Did you see the gif in my response? I just want to know if I posted that right. (I have embarrassingly scant amount of computer knowledge :))
            Ps. please don’t lose your mind, **hands Lurker cool helmet** please wear this when talking to elle, or any other psyche fracturing activity.
            Okay. I feel better now too. πŸ™‚

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, the gifs showed up as a separate link that I then opened in another tab.

              But that’s no biggie.

              One of the things I do is to left click (ctrl click on Mac) and select “view image” (or “open image in separate tab” in some browsers).

              Once you’ve drilled down and all you see on the screen is the picture or gif surrounded by black (or white in some browsers) then that’s the link you can paste that will make it show up as the full image in the post.

              Usually. But not always, because computers!

              Thanks for the helmet.

              I was pretty calm about the whole elle thing, but she was noticeably having an increasingly bad time. Like Mockingbird, I felt bad for her and eased off.

              But then she started in on Baby, so you know…

            • beauty for ashes

              Oh don’t start in on my Baby!!!!!!! I will go over there too! Crap and I was having a get things done day today.

  • ReallyMGM

    Does anyone know if Paulette’s (and her sister’s) childhood story has been shared with the US Holocaust museum? They are trying to have all the stories they can for future generations to learn about this horrible part of our world’s history. I hope so. As more and more survivors pass away, it is so important for them to be in a central (or several) locations. We can never forget.

    • Frodis73

      Great question! She should get in touch with them.

      • beauty for ashes

        Fro Yo!!!! Tacklehugs! How are you? Its been few and far between my friend.

        • Frodis73

          Hey yourself!! I was having computer probs (still am a bit) but then I had some RL stuff get in the way. I’ve been reading every single day tho!

          • beauty for ashes

            Sorry about the computer problems and the RL stuff. πŸ™ I hope for some computer fairies to either fix things or magically get you a new one.) I know I have seen you here but not as often as usual.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      At the very least, a copy of UML should be sent to their reference library.

      • beauty for ashes

        Thanks btw πŸ™‚

    • beauty for ashes

      Aww, I just got chills at that idea, because maybe she can find more of her history, or even relatives.

  • Mockingbird

    I just found this interesting comment by former Executive Director International for life Bill Franks.
    https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-BFPNExnGuuQ/U1hJGJlOazI/AAAAAAAADw0/ZqIm6ej3ag8/s1600/BillFranksFB.jpg

    • Veronica

      Help with the acronyms? Mainly “ARC BKs.” Why are they so important?

      • Mockingbird

        ARC is Scientology for understanding. BK is short for breaks . ARC BKs are upsets, quarrels, arguments and disagreements. Basically Scientology from study tech through auditing through ethics has the idea that people leave due to OWs, but Bill Franks claimed Hubbard knew that was really bullshit and used to control people.

        It basically knocks out Scientology’s entire fake foundation for virtually everything.

        • Affinity Reality Communication – the lower triangle of the $cientology symbol. The upper triangle is Knowledge Responsibility Control (KRC). ARC = Understanding according to Elwrong, therefore a “break” in it would be a decreasing of understanding. http://scientology.wikia.com/wiki/KRC

        • Veronica

          So… people who leave don’t necessarily do so in an attempt to escape the repercussions of their nefarious, suppressive criminal activity? I can see how admitting that regular ol’ petty human foibles are an issue even for Scientologists would kind of make one ask “why bother being a Scientologist.”

          • Mockingbird

            Yeah, Hubbard relied on the lie that to leave Scientology YOU have to be a criminal fleeing the scene of your crimes. It is an absolute lie. An abused wife leaves for self preservation. An employee can leave for a better job. A Scientologist can leave because Scientology is a harmful fraud.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Testify.

          • LongtimeLurker

            I’m sure Mockingbird got some good 2WC going there, but come on Veronica, it’s 65 AD and you’re coming off like a DB!

            Maybe you need to redo Book One and reread some HCOPLs and BTBs? Or should I just fly over there and M3 you on all your Mis-Us?

            Or how about I call a B of I or a Comm Ev? Is that what you want?

            I can’t tell if you just Anatened or you’re some kind of DB but I’ll have EOs on you like BTs on a freakin’ PC you CI PTS. And don’t even think about EOCing your way out of that.

            We here in AOSHANZO are starting to think you WUSers are just Alter-Ising Source for shits and giggles.

            STOP! Don’t speak, don’t even try to Dedex this, buster, because I will route you to Ethics and get all these overts of yours standardly-handled. I’m sick of all this Bank-talking! Did you just fake your CCRD?

            Now give me an Ack, so I can stop.

            http://www.xenu-directory.net/glossary/glossary_a.htm

            (apologies to everyone)

            • Mockingbird

              Play nice.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I was just showing off my half-assed knowledge.

            • 0tessa

              Didn’t you just ass-is Scientology? Or, blown to pieces?

            • Mockingbird

              Now, now Hubbard’s idiocy is confusing. Just because some of us fell for it doesn’t mean we have to spout off. Especially when others honestly can’t follow.

            • Veronica

              Whoa. Dude. I don’t care how many WCs Mockingbird has. This is not a competition! And I may well be a Dead Blond, but I have feelings — or at least I did. The only thing I’ll ever redo is my make-up, mate, and I can’t very well reread something I’ve never read (Ha! Logic!). Stop trying to appease me with BLTs. While normally that would work, I’m afraid we’re past that now. (Wait, don’t take them away! I still want them, I’m just not going to be appeased by them. I’ll take those PBJs too.) Don’t bother M3ing me (the only BMWs I like are the 2002s), and you just worry about your own missus, pal, and never mind anybody else’s. You can just go right on ahead and call Ghostbusters for all I care. Go back to your INXS or La De Da’s or Run-DMC. Just quit crowding my house. I’m totally PO’d now, FYI.

              BM.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cc96c7d88c422e355dfb13b51ad54924d7f5233dcf8483c410d956d7234cad8c.jpg

            • LongtimeLurker

              *applause*

            • Veronica

              Just following your lead dear (albeit backwards and in heels, which technically makes me better than you).

            • LongtimeLurker

              That’s very true, Ginger.

            • Veronica

              You seem to be in the midst of some sort of maritime disaster today. I’m impressed that you’re able to continue posting with no typos or grammar errors. Well done!

            • LongtimeLurker

              It’s pretty hard, lots of retyping.

              I’m also cold. And I think we’re gonna have to start eating someone pretty soon.

              I got that workshop flyer and because it said “presented by the Freewinds”, I misunderstood and went to the stupid boat instead of the stupid Trianon Theater.

              By the time I realized my mistake, we were out at sea and they said they couldn’t turn back.

              I went down into the ship’s…basement? (I dunno anything about ships) to see if I could turn the rudder-thingy myself.

              Anyway, I guess I broke something and the basement started filling up with water…and yeah…so here we all are.

              Waiting to see which one of these supposed OTs cracks first and tries to use their Super Powers to summon a helicopter.

  • Mockingbird

    Additionally here is a video of Bill Franks interview in which he states Hubbard knew OWs don’t really exist or affect people as he claimed, but that revealing that would threaten his hold over Scientology.
    Oh, and he also claims to have seen evidence Hubbard had British citizens murdered.
    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=i2r2Nd6OJT4

    • LongtimeLurker

      Thans for the link, man!

      Saved to HD for later.

    • B4you

      Dig some more on this Bill Franks, i find him interesting but only have found a few links so far.
      <<>> πŸ™‚

  • Missionary Kid

    OT L.A. Times article on Alex Gibney and his views on Steve Jobs.

    I think it gives insight into Gibney and his desire to understand people and things.

    http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-ca-mn-gibney-jobs-20150830-story.html

  • Eivol Ekdal

    What a great article today Tony! I am gutted that I could not make it. Well done to the UK crew and especially i-Betty.
    Here is a photo from Griffith Observatory taken this evening…

    • SP Wogsy

      Beautiful.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      That’s an incredible view! We really missed you on Friday; you would have enjoyed it very much.

  • SP Wogsy

    To UTRs transitioning out of the mind fuck. Gnite all. F5

    Oh and I just finished watching The Maze Runner, and it was awesome. Have a great week Bunker.

    • beauty for ashes

      Gnite! Have amazing dreams!

  • Frodis73

    Happy Birthday to Dodo!!! Hope you had a great day. Rock on dude! πŸ˜€ f5

  • Frodis73

    Also for Dodo: f5

    • Veronica

      I want all of them.

  • Frodis73

    OT-So, this happened tonight on MTV…Xenu help us all. Kanye West and Jaden Smith are going to save America in 2020.
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/jaden-smith-kanye-west-vmas_55e3c36de4b0b7a963396380?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592&ref=yfp

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X *** Monday, 31 August 2015.

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,

    Sorry, I missed posting yesterday late afternoon (RL catching up!)

    Below average: San Antonio leads Detroit

    RedX tips & Complaints procedure are now included in the google doc under the RedXTips tab.

    Flag the lies, whack a few bait & switch ads : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    F5… Longing the Dark Tower by Andy Factor enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15888955519/in/set-72157642802079293

  • richelieu jr

    Paulette is still so elegant!

  • richelieu jr

    “Motley Crew”?!!

    Watch it, Buster! That’s our family you’re talking about!

  • wannabeclear

    That’s a lot of empty chairs at their big celebration. Where were all the dupes, er, Co$ members to fill them?

  • BraveBloggers

    Thank you! Hopefully he will be get some of your witty Virgo charisma and zest! I hope your birthday was fabulous p, and you were spoiled rotten!

  • Sydjazz

    boy they are really flogging the celebs

  • Xenuvius

    We see a lot of Ft Harrison attendees cleverly disguised as empty chairs…practicing the tech of “empty chair disguise” is of course a favorite OT power demonstrated and utilized in Ideal Orgs throughout the world.

    • Jonathan Cummings

      Are they also able to make cars vanish, because every time I see a pic of the Ideal Org nearby the parking lot is almost totally empty no matter what time of day or night?

  • Adrien Marcel Drea

    the guy with the medal at fort harisson is mr robert gallibert from the town of marseille french representative for no to drugs yes to life, he is the one who took care of this group after benoit singla left for brussels to come and help his lovely agnes bron say no to drugs yes to life a front group association used by the cult ?

    L’association Β« Non Γ  la drogue, … Mr GALIBERT Robert 576, Chemin du charel 13400 AUBAGNE. Email. nonaladrogueouialaviefrance@gmail.com Β© 2016;

    • Adrien Marcel Drea

      this is him giving away brochure in streets