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Mike Rowe uses Facebook to rip Scientology over the treatment of his friend Spanky Taylor

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On Sunday night Mike Rowe, the former Dirty Jobs host and current star of CNN’s Somebody’s Gotta Do It, used his Facebook page to vent over the treatment of Spanky Taylor that’s described in Alex Gibney’s documentary about Scientology, Going Clear. Spanky was one of eight former Church of Scientology members who appeared in the film to talk about how they got into the church but later broke away, and Spanky’s story about being assigned to the Sea Org’s prison detail and having to save her young child from a filthy group nursery is one of the most shocking parts of the movie.

Going Clear made me angry,” Rowe wrote after explaining that he employed Spanky and knew her story, but was still stunned by what he saw in the movie. “And if you’re offended by bullies and opportunists who take advantage of people at their most vulnerable, and an IRS that seems both craven and manipulable, it’ll make you angry too.”

As we explained in a piece about Spanky that appeared a few days before Going Clear first aired on HBO on March 29, she has spent decades working with famous clients, helping them manage their interactions with fans. But she never discloses who her clients are, and we didn’t know she’s done work for Rowe.

Rowe explained that he’s already familiar with what she’d been through, but what infuriated him about the movie was the way it portrayed Scientology bullying the IRS into giving it tax exempt status in 1993, which has enabled the church to amass billions in the years since, tax-free.

“Maybe I’m still a little cranky from the check I just wrote to Uncle Sam,” Rowe said as he made it clear that he doesn’t care what people believe, but that Scientology’s habit of bullying and manipulating people is hard to reconcile with its status as a tax-exempt church. “But mostly, Going Clear made me very proud of my friend, and others like her. It’s a hell of a thing to realize everything you believe is not what you thought it was. And it’s even harder to confess your mistakes to the world and start over. Paul Haggis, a talented and successful screenwriter comes forward, along with a handful of former members and church officials who endured the kind of threats and intimidation that would keep most people silent. Their courage is impressive.”

We called Spanky, who had no idea that Rowe had posted the statement.

“I was really surprised to see this, and grateful to see that he took a position,” she told us. “But it concerns me, because I don’t want him to become a target of the organization. I appreciate that he took time to see the film and was so moved by it. And I agree with him, I think people should sign a petition to take away Scientology’s tax exempt status, and talk to their elected representatives.”

Take a look at his entire statement

When I was shooting Dirty Jobs, I hired a woman named Spanky Taylor to help me fulfill requests from viewers and fans. If you ever asked for and received from me an autographed photo, or a signed letter for an Eagle Scout, it was Spanky who licked the stamp and got it in the mail, many thousands of times.

Anyway, I just finished watching a documentary on HBO in which Spanky appears. That’s her behind me, on my unnecessarily large TV screen. The documentary is called “Going Clear,” and while it’s not exactly an Easter story, it’s most definitely a tale of resurrection and new life. I’m posting this today because I think everyone who has ever been lied to or deceived should watch it.

Going Clear, among other things, tells the story of Spanky Taylor’s escape from The Church of Scientology. Like all Church employees, Spanky signed a “Billion Year Contract,” and pledged her life to the cause. She was, according to her own account, brainwashed, programmed, and forbidden from leaving the property. When she gave birth, her baby was put in a separate location, so as not to interfere with her Church duties. One day Spanky went to visit her daughter. The baby was malnourished and utterly neglected. She was covered with flies, and her eyes were filled with pus and fused shut. Something finally snapped, and with the help of a friend, Spanky took her child, fled from her captors, and never looked back.

I knew Spanky’s story when I hired her, so when I watched her tale unfold on my unnecessarily large screen, I was not struck by the details of her personal ordeal, or by the incredible stories of other members who broke free and agreed to come forward. In truth, I’m no longer shocked by people who choose to follow a charlatan, or give away all their money, or forsake their friends and family to seek some greater truth, or drink whatever Kool-Aid is being served. The right to make bad decisions is an important part of being free. And to be clear, (as it were,) I don’t begrudge Scientology’s right to exist, or their right to separate a fool from his or her money in whatever legal means possible. Caveat emptor. But beyond all that, the thing that really chaps my ass is the fact that our government has enabled Scientology to grow into the colossus it’s now become.

In 1993, The IRS granted tax-exempt status to Scientology. This ruling not only saved Scientology many millions of dollars, it gave them status as a worldwide religion, and dramatically increased their power to recruit more members, or customers, if you prefer. That changed everything. The financial facts are beyond dispute – Scientology is a multi-billion dollar business that sells a tangible service called “auditing.” They also create “auditors,” for a price. Prior to 1993, an auditing session was no different from a tax-standpoint than a session with a palm-reader, a fortune-teller, a hypnotist, or a Voodoo Priestess. It was a taxable event. That’s no longer the case. Today, The Church of Scientology generates billions of dollars in revenue, and pays no tax at all. Zero.

Maybe I’m still a little cranky from the check I just wrote to Uncle Sam. Hell, maybe I should write a book and turn mikeroweWORKS into a religion. Or, maybe not. Either way, for all sorts of reasons, “Going Clear” made me angry, and if you’re offended by bullies and opportunists who take advantage of people at their most vulnerable, and an IRS that seems both craven and manipulable, it’ll make you angry too. But mostly, “Going Clear” made me very proud of my friend, and others like her. It’s a hell of a thing to realize everything you believe is not what you thought it was. And it’s even harder to confess your mistakes to the world and start over. Paul Haggis, a talented and successful screenwriter comes forward, along with a handful of former members and church officials who endured the kind of threats and intimidation that would keep most people silent. Their courage is impressive.

Going Clear is not a blockbuster. It does have star power though, and more than its share of heroes and villains. Some of whom you’ll certainly recognize. Check it out.

Happy Easter
Mike

 
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Marty_Rathbun_GC2Marty Rathbun story coming to TV again, this time on ID

If you’ve been with us awhile, you may have been caught up in the excitement as we prepared for and then live-blogged the ID network’s treatment of the Nancy Many story in January 2013.

ID is the Discovery Channel’s spinoff network about true crime, and it treated Nancy’s story in an interesting way. It was essentially Nancy narrating the story of how she found herself in Scientology’s Sea Org prison detail, the RPF, while she was pregnant, living in a parking garage in Clearwater, Florida. She eventually made her way to the Hollywood Celebrity Centre and then, after a breakdown during an intense sec check, left Scientology for good. Her show was based on her book, My Billion-Year Contract, with her telling her story as we saw scenes recreated by actors.

Well, the next person to get that treatment will be Mark “Marty” Rathbun, whose story is being told by ID in its “Dangerous Persuasions” series on April 15 at 10 pm. We confirmed with Rathbun that the format will be the same, and judging by the brief description online, it sounds like the show uses biographical scenes from Rathbun’s most recent book, Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior.

Rathbun spent 27 years in Scientology and rose to be its second highest ranking official before he left in 2004. He was an important part of Alex Gibney’s HBO documentary, Going Clear, and he was also the subject of an excellent UK Channel 4 documentary, Scientologists at War.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

The Church of Scientology Berlin Promotes Drug-Free Living!

 
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Scenes from the third annual Youth For Human Rights regional South Asia summit in Kathmandu!

 
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Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 6, 2015 at 00:05

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  • Jimmy Threetimes

    That segment was way too short.

    • MadMaxi

      WTF, reminds me why I stopped watching TV news

    • Sherbet

      Was barely long enough for Tony to don his tie.

  • nottrue

    time more time……….nothing about Tony’s book or petition

  • aquaclara

    That’s it.

    • Snake Plissken

      Yeah it cable news , where they drag out one hour’s worth of content over tweny four hours

  • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

    Like Don Lemon’s usual, it was pretty scattershot and disorganized, but at least he didn’t completely put his foot in his mouth. Kind of weird to have four live guests on for such a short segment, especially when such a big chunk of it was a pre-recorded segment from a fifth.

    • Sherbet

      Exactly. Too many people. Tory gets wound up, because she has so much personal history. Four people with so much to say were about 2-3 too many for this short segment.

      • Davka

        I didn’t see it (watching father-in-law watch NCAA right now), but TV news is programmed for people with an attention span of a gnat. Actual substance, not so much.

        • Sherbet

          Everyone had to sort of jockey for position to be heard. Not fair, with this cast of people. Oh, well, it’s just more fuel for the fires burning against scientology right now.

          • phoebequeen

            Plus, I am watching Duke get schooled!

            • Sherbet

              I’d rather watch David Miscavige get schooled.

            • phoebequeen

              As we all would. SU fan so, goes without saying.

            • Vaquera

              Tied! Hell yes!

          • Davka

            That says to me that the producers just knew they should put a story on because of the overall press coverage, not because they actually understood enough to put on a decent, time appropriate piece.

            • noseinabk

              Yes. Hence the fail of including Reza.

            • Sherbet

              At least it started with the SNL spoof, so it began in a promising way. Not a bad interview, just too many people trying to say too many important things, being moderated by a person who’s no Walter Cronkite. He’s not even Barbara Walters.

            • Davka

              Maybe they should have gotten Seth Myers and Tina Fey?

            • Sherbet

              No, they should bring back Mike Wallace from the dead.

            • Davka

              Ha! That’d be a neat trick. I know Sherb – Natalie Jacobson 😉

            • Sherbet

              Yes! Remember how she wiped the floor with John Silber? Not bad, for a local news anchor.

            • Davka

              His entire campaign up in flames after that interview. She could disarm whatever cnn buffoon was in the way….

            • aquaclara

              Heh, heh, heh. I guess they saw the rest of SNL. CNN SpokesMuppets, anyone?
              Irony in action.

            • phoebequeen

              They need Scott Pelly at 60 Minutes.

      • PurpleToothTech

        I wanted to see them have about 4 to 5 hours to speak. I much rather listen to Tony than to Salt-N-Pepper.

        • Sherbet

          So say we all.

        • Observer

          I think Don wanted to be done with Scientology so he could get to them. He got all jolly when they came out.

          • PurpleToothTech

            And S&P are still on.

          • Rasha

            You could tell he was more than happy to end that segment. I was pissed when he cut off Tory.

          • noseinabk

            I am starting to feel trolled by the bunker viewing recommendations. I never watch these news shows and had to hunt down the stations. I won’t be fooled again! Maybe.

        • Rasha

          But – but – they have those trendy GEICO commercials!!!

          • Sherbet

            Push it!

          • PurpleToothTech

            I only like the lizard

            • Sherbet

              David Miscavige isn’t in those GEICO commercials. What are you talking about?

    • Sarah James

      Good to hear. I didn’t get to watch but I was afraid Lemon would step in it so to speak.

      • Sherbet

        He was like an overwhelmed junior high teacher, getting exasperated when his class acts up.

        • Sarah James

          Will he ever grow up?

          • Sherbet

            I never saw him before, and, like Dee, I have no intention of watching him again unless he has Travolta and Cruise on, denouncing cos on live TV. Yeah, that’ll happen.

  • Science Doc

    My assessment is that an other 50 to 100 K people are now going to watch Going Clear.

    • MaxSpaceman

      easy

  • Mockingbird

    That imbecile Reza Aslan does not know anything about cults : a cult is a group that tries to control all or nearly all of your decision making . It is totalistic . It is an abusive relationship as a group rather than one on one . It relies on extreme abuse in a master/abuser/power holder and slave/victim/submissive relationship .

    Throw that idiot in the hole er ” private religious retreat” for a few months and he will reconsider .

    • Snake Plissken

      Yep, he’s a fucking moron

    • noseinabk

      That was cut short so he could interview salt-n-pepa?

  • Illinoisian

    Thanks to everyone for the moment to moment comments. Sounds like it was just too short to give a good platform for the guests that *we* wanted to hear.

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    I never watched Don Lemon before and won’t again. Unless someone says too for a very good reason. I agree with other Bunkerites. Too short and rushed, while he seemed eager for it to end.

    • Sherbet

      But Gibney’s Sinatra didn’t disappoint, did it, Dee?

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        It was marvelous. I learned some new things, also put a nice time line on him which helped understand Sinatra’s life. His editing made it perfect, and the music divine! Bravo!

        • Sherbet

          I’m a new Gibney fan.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Me too!

  • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps
    • Sherbet

      It was the high point of the piece. That and seeing Paulette.

    • Rasha

      The man speaks the truth, plain and simple.

    • Sherbet

      You should have said, “Don, you’re so glib. Reza Aslan doesn’t know the history of scientology. I do.”

    • Snake Plissken

      It really goes to show you just how bad of a situation Scientology is in when that is the best they could come up with to defend Scientology

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        It was pretty poor!

    • Mymy88

      I LOVED it when Tony said that!

  • villagedianne

    I would love to see this same group on a more serious and in-depth show, like an Anderson Cooper type program.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Let’s hope that will be in the near future.

  • Standish

    Someone needs to give Reza, Lifton’s book about thought reform and what makes a quasi religious movement a cult.

    • Mockingbird

      Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism

      • Standish

        Thats the one

  • aquaclara

    Ok, after the earlier 15 minute story about Fast and furious diversity, where the word diversity was repeated at least 15 times, we now have the salt n pepa interview. What does he bring up? Diversity in the fast and furious movie. Ok, we got it.
    Apparently there is no other redeeming value to the fast and furious movie. Sadly. How about telling people it’s a great movie?

    Not that that’s news, but at least tell people to go watch the movie. After you spend 15 minutes talking about the movie.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      When there’s a movie like that, you need to push it. You need to push it real good.

      • Super Power Wogsy

        great. now i have the song stuck in my head…

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Which? This one?
          http://youtu.be/YleXlgHI1oM

          • Super Power Wogsy

            …and an entire video and a repeating “oh babeh babeh!! babeh babeh!. Gah!!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              ..am i the only one getting flashbacks of the running man though???

            • AintMizBahavin

              hell 2 da no you’re not.. all i can see is the running man and those hot ass leather jackets flapping around like broken air bags

            • Super Power Wogsy

              ok great. i thought it was just me. i was 4-5 years old doing the running man when they came out. brought some memories…squeeky voice singing “oh bay bay bay beh! Git up on this!!”! : )

      • aquaclara

        Thank The Lord, I now have fun Salt n pepa instead of we stand tall in my head.

        • Rasha

          Personally, I’m blasting Daft Punk on my headphones to dislodge both of them…. “Instant Crush”, here I come…..

          • AintMizBahavin

            ok but how about ” bring you up” thats a great song by them also

            • Rasha

              Nice. “Prime Time Of Your Life” and “Make Love” are queued up, too. Luv these guys.

      • AintMizBahavin

        im so done right now rofl.. that annoying ass commercial just went off.. i didnt like the song when it came out and i damn sure dont like it 20 yrs later but your reply was spot on and hilarious

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I thought the commercial was clever when I first saw it. But you’re absolutely right, it wasn’t long before you couldn’t grab the remote fast enough when it came on. It got annoying quick.

  • MaxSpaceman

    I really really love that they showed some of the SNL Mock — that hit the chult hard. To millions of eyeballs.

  • Mockingbird

    That idiot needs to study Rape of the Mind and Lifton and Singer and Hassan and Atack and…there is an entire validated subject he completely rejects .

    • MaxSpaceman

      The great rebuttal to that is what Tony didn’t get to say without enough time; what he said on HuffPost Live *is* the point

      “What does it matter if it’s a cult or not. I don’t even talk about that. It’s their behavior that is the point. Their reprehensible behavior.” (words to that effect)

      • Mockingbird

        The point is the psychology of a cult is different than a normal group . A cult requires abuse as it is based on an abusive relationship . The abuse IS the control mechanism . That is the WHOLE point .

        To understand cults the abuse is a clue on top but underneath is the hidden thought reform and a group modeled on a founder or leader who is a malignant or traumatic narcissist . A cult is to a group what an extreme narcissist and psychopath is to a normal person .

        These reporters need to remove heads from asses and do some fucking research .That needs to be a meme .

        • MaxSpaceman

          Ok, and I like Tony’s take. Concentrate on illegal behavior if you want to have anything done by legal authorities to dent the religious cloak of the illegal chult.

          But I wasn’t in. And don’t care if it’s called a cult or not. That’s all, Bird.

        • villagedianne

          I see your point about abuse being an essential element of a cult.
          There are many religions that have some element of cult-like, authoritarian or abusive practices. Usually it’s a mixture of good and bad. That’s why Azlan feels he can get away with his blah blah. I agree with Tony that in discussing Scientology the word cult becomes a distraction.
          Furthermore, it has become a buzz-word and lost the meaning you describe. For instance, one could say that Tony Ortega used to have a cult following, but has now gone mainstream.

  • Mockingbird

    The whole panel condemns Scientology .

  • To paraphrase the Clinton campaign, “It’s the abuse, stupid.” Some t-shirts maybe?

  • Mockingbird

    More people Will watch Going Clear and the SNL masterpiece and the snowball grows and rolls !

  • I spent an hour with my business partner talking about Going Clear. She and her husband were totally horrified by the film and said that it “haunted them” all night and into the morning. Over and over, I hear the same story. Of the 20 or so people I’ve talked to about the film, none of them were “meh” about it, or thought it was off in any way.

    • Sherbet

      So they weren’t “bored” like our recent troll?

      • No. Horrified and fascinated.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Excellent report back Artoo!

  • Re-Oriented

    Good job gang! You did all you could in the short time allotted you. Even held up an SP declare and promoted Tony’s blog!

  • Sherbet

    I am so eager to read Tony’s book, now that I’ve see Paulette Cooper looking so pretty and, yes, victorious. Let me change that “pretty” to “healthy.” She looks so strong and invincible.

    • As they say, living well is the best revenge.

    • Rasha

      Mettle (n). see: Paulette Cooper

      • Sherbet

        Synonym: Big brass ones

  • aquaclara

    The panel of the Fearless Four did great. CNN gave far too much time to Scientology and then to that idiotic mouthpiece for the cult, deeply afraid of them, in my opinion.

    Now, Anderson Cooper is on, and just used the word “brainwashing” in the Boston Bomber case. He would have covered this interview in a much more thorough manner.

    Why did Don Lemon feel like he had to prop up Scientology, when they didn’t send anyone to appear in person?

    • Rasha

      DAing himself, just to be safe? Just askin’….

    • Sherbet

      I don’t feel that he did that. I just think there wasn’t enough time for everyone else.

    • Because he’s 1.1 and close to the soil?

      • Mockingbird

        Nasty

        • Did I need to put my little sarcasm face after that?

    • MoX, Mother of Xenu

      I’m confused over the 4th guy … what purpose did he serve other than talk too much and interrupt Tori?

      • MaxSpaceman

        He’s a big expert on cults, Steve Hassan.

        • MoX, Mother of Xenu

          Than you!

      • Mockingbird

        Steve Hassan is a psychologist and cult expert . He has excellent books and has exposed mind control and how cults use it . He is an ally .

        • MoX, Mother of Xenu

          Smart, ally, still talks too much in a short segment where I want to hear the other three more.

          Got it.

          Need to learn more about him.

          No insult intended.

      • Snake Plissken

        Steve Hassan was there to let people know that Hubbard didn’t even come up with the how to create a mind control cult on his own, he even stole that too, Scientology uses the same exact tactics as other mind control cults

        • MoX, Mother of Xenu

          So I googled him, read the wiki, and found his smear page. Smear pages always up people in my assessment. Anyone considered so scary they need to be smeared by the CoS is somebody I want to hear more from.

          Their insistence that The Hole Does Not Exist has made her comments here immensely more interesting.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Steve Hassan is great. Freedom of Mind. I stole my name from him, using his approach with my family member to good avail in terms of relationship-building, though he hasn’t blown…

  • EnthralledObserver

    Any links to the thing that I just missed? I don’t even know what it was, but it sounds good!

    • Super Power Wogsy

      i second the link. cmon guys…

      • Beth

        (me three)

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      There will be a link soon. You won’t have to wait long. I have to say though, I didn’t like it because it was too short and stretched too thin. Of the four that appeared, I want to hear from all of them. I just don’t want all four of them at once on a program like this, because they end up taking time from one another.

      • Sherbet

        Yes. I especially want to see Tony and Paulette zero in on why the cos needs to be taken down.

  • RBE
    • Snake Plissken

      And writing checks to fund those bad people it right up there too.

    • Mockingbird

      Hilarious , doublethink is at the heart of Scientology : call victims criminals and vice versa . JT is par for the course .

    • AnyOldName1

      WOW! She really nailed it. Have been trying to come up with a response to Travolta’s lame, self-centered comments.

  • Elen

    Funny or die has not stopped making fun!

    http://www.funnyordie.com/videos/11842ce894/going-clear

  • Mymy88

    Oh. My. God. That was one of the most… can’t think of word(s) to describe its fabulousness, interviews I’ve ever seen. Talk about a kick in the crotch. Scientology must be doubled over with a sickened stupid rage with nothing to rail against other than its own ridiculous and self defeating infantile retaliations, which are created from within its own black heart, as it beats relentlessly in delusional self-righteous indignation.

    SUCK IT MISCAVIGE! I hope you rot in hell as you hear the shouts of joy coming from your freed mind slaves, as their eyes begin adjusting to the exposing light of truth.

    YOU ARE A TINY FISTED, SELF AGGRANDIZING IDIOT PUNK! I SPIT IN YOUR FACE!

    • Sherbet

      Obviously, you liked it, Mymy, when the rest of us are just slightly disappointed. But that’s good. Any crotch kicking cos gets is OK in my book.

  • Tony Ortega

    Well, that blew.

    • Sherbet

      Not really. Not a nuclear blast for scientology, but a nasty little stinkbomb nonetheless.

    • Everyone here seemed pretty jazzed. I look forward to seeing it.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I know, right? Everyone f’n hates Duke.

      • Sherbet

        Jimmy, Jimmy, Jimmy. Now I know why you’re Threetimes.

      • Vaquera

        Mmmmm….NOT!

        • phoebequeen

          Sorry I do. SU fan here and no, I don’t want to talk about it.

          • MaxSpaceman

            Saratoga University ?

            • phoebequeen

              No, Syracuse University. We got a time out for this years activities. Hangs head in shame.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Okay, one person doesn’t hate Duke. And she’s a lovely person. But everyone else hates Duke. We can agree on that.

          • Vaquera

            I agree that everyone minus one hates them. Had they been playing the UK Wildcats, I’d have been singing a different tune.

          • phoebequeen

            Oooh, is that lovely person me?

    • Observer

      Next time dress up as Salt or Pepa. He was really happy to see them.

      • Sherbet

        Did Reza have an opinion on whether they’re rap or hip hop, based on their longevity?

        • Rasha

          LOL

        • Snake Plissken

          I doubt he prepared himself enough to even know what rap and hip hop is.

          • Sherbet

            I sure wasn’t impressed with him. What, is he the nephew of someone at CNN?

            • Snake Plissken

              He’s about the only person left willing to show up to take Scientology’s side. They might as well just have invited the empty chair that Clint Eastwood was talking to at the 2012 RNC.

    • Rasha

      Could easily have been a weeklong thing, a 10-minute segment for each person per day. Easy.

    • phoebequeen

      And, Duke won. Crap.

    • Snake Plissken

      It’s unfortunate but cable news is not actually about providing information and nor are it’s viewers looking for it, they’re just looking to be entertained. If Tom Cruise isn’t stopping by to jump up and down on a couch they’d just assume get an update on Kim Kardashian’s latest parking ticket.

    • aquaclara

      You came across well. Lemon was more enthused about the cast of Fast and Furious. CNN was so damned afraid they gave way too much air to Scientology and that religious “scholar” idiot.

      The visual of the four of you, plus the SNL clip were good.

      Sorry you didn’t have more time.

    • phoebequeen

      Scott Pelly on 60 Minutes or Brian Ross of ABC would give it more attention. Don only had so much time.

    • AintMizBahavin

      i know im late but can i be caught up please on what everyone is talking about? i had a biopsy today along with dealing with vampires so when i got home i went to sleep and just woke up not to long ago…

      • Vaquera

        Tony, Tory and Paulette on CNN

        • AintMizBahavin

          dang i wish i had known i would have recorded but judging by the responses tony, tori nor paulette got to speak their minds to the degree they wanted to. ughhhhhhhhhh

          • aquaclara

            No worries about catching it! There is sure to be a clip hovering around tomorrow. Now go take care of you!
            No more vampires!

            • AintMizBahavin

              Aquaclara im off to bed to sleep off the rest of whats left of the anesthetic everyone have a blessed morning noon evening night xoxoxo

        • AintMizBahavin

          Thank you

      • Sherbet

        Dear Miz. You really need to be well, because you’re important here. Understood?

        • Rasha

          Seconded and Thirded!

        • AintMizBahavin

          Sherbet not as important as all of you are to me. but as i promised Wogsy i will take care of myself. but you know i must admit i go thru withdrawals lol when i miss out on what going on with my bunkeroo family

          • Sherbet

            We’re all important to one another. Case in point: After Tony concluded his CNN interview, what did he do? He came to the Bunker to schmooze with us. Scientology is a sick, stubborn blister on the rear end of the planet, but you are a human being and we’re all pulling for your continuing health. I’ll pray for you, too, which should tick off any atheist within earshot. Hugs.

            • AintMizBahavin

              Thank You and hugs right back along with my long legs and size 10’s kicking lyingtology in its about to be uninflated ass cuse my cussing

            • Sherbet

              I’ve got 9 1/2 WW. I’ll help.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            you better Miz!…i need someone to do the running man and the roger rabbit with when the /K/ult goes down. (No c word used).

      • Super Power Wogsy

        girl take care of yoursself. light a candle, get a bubble bath going and some apple juice in a wine glass : )

        • AintMizBahavin

          i will i promise

      • aquaclara

        Wishing you all the best! (But can you tell me what the vampires have to do,with things? Are they blood-sucking body thetans?)

        😉 I couldn’t resist that one.

        • AintMizBahavin

          thats what i call the doctors when they take 6-8 tubes of my blood but i love your name for them and thats exactly what they shall be called from today forward rofl

          • aquaclara

            Ooh, yes. I can’t look. But those nice nurses- this is what I heard this month. “ooh, we’ve got LOTS of blood.” Thanks, nurse. Now, why do you need it more than me?

          • beauty for ashes

            LOL! And please starve first, nope not even coffee. Then let me drain you of all of this blood that they will only use a drop of from each vial. I have a Dr. that always runs too many tests, I swear he gets kickbacks from the lab. Anyway take care Miz, we always love seeing you here!

        • Sherbet

          I hope it’s not Tom Cruise in “Interview with the Vampire.”

      • Rasha

        Hope you’re well, Miz. Tony, Tory, Paulette and Steve Hassan were interviewed simultaneously on CNN. Some of us feel it was too short a segment for such a stellar panel, but they were great.

        • AintMizBahavin

          Thank You Rasha and knowing cnn i bet smh at them

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Oh my, Miz. I’ve been there. I hope your test results come out okay. Please rest and take care of yourself. I’ll be thinking of you..

      • Juicer77

        Hope you are not in any post-op discomfort and the test results are good. The waiting part sucks! At least you hVe Bunker reading to keep busy 🙂

    • MoX, Mother of Xenu

      But you were great.

    • villagedianne

      Considering the limitations imposed on you by the unproductive format, you did damn good.

    • Snake Plissken

      I guess the toughest part of getting information out on cable news is that they are strictly looking to televise a heated argument, but there is no one to argue with, because no one is will to show up to defend Scientology, Reza Aslan was the best they could come up, which is scraping the bottom of the barrel after the barrel has already been scrapped.

    • Vaquera

      You came across as an authority.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Only in the sense that Lemon blows. He’s not up to it. He’s not prime time. Not even close. He’s made for Entertainment Tonight type shows.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      So, FoxNews did a better job with its Scientology coverage with the Megyn Kelly/Mike Rinder series?

      • aquaclara

        Three nights. Yes.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Lemon makes Kelly look like Walter Cronkite.

        • Sherbet

          You’re right; I remember Cronkite was known for his long, shapely legs and cleavage.

          • villagedianne

            You really did make me laugh out loud there.

            • Sherbet

              Then my job here is complete.

            • Sherbet

              (Putting on my serious hat, here.) Isn’t it pathetic that grizzly old men are the traditional news readers, yet a woman has to be a Playboy bunny once removed to get a network to hire her?

              And that’s the way it was…is.

            • Vaquera

              Except, of course, Greta. She postulated the job.

            • Sherbet

              Aha. But even she gave in to vanity and had a facelift a few years ago.

            • Mymy88

              I think that’s one of the reasons I respected Greta a lot. I thought well… she’s no beauty pageant contest winner, but look how far she’s come. That means she has real brains! Well she may have brains, but she’s refusing to use them if she’s still a supporting Scientology member, as I see it.

          • Rasha

            Totally surreal pause as those images came together…

            …and yes, you owe me a keyboard.

      • Snake Plissken

        Megyn Kelly did her homework

        • AnyOldName1

          Yeah and they really pissed her off with their telexes!

      • Mymy88

        In my opinion, if you don’t mind my butting in, heck no! Wow, I cannot believe this. Some of you cannot see the forest for the trees, imo.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          Hope you’re not offended. I watched both presentations, and from an objective point of view, Ms. Kelly’s coverage was MUCH more complete, informative, and portrayed the Chult in the most appropriate light possible- i.e. coming as close to calling them a criminal, money-grubbing crime syndicate as they could reasonably get away with.

          Cold Hard Fact- Cable News (all channels) is to current events what WWE is to professional sports. People get all wrapped around the axle with their own deeply ingrained points of view and that sells advertising and brand loyalty. They’re all one-sided. They all pander to a base. I don’t care what Megyn Kelly looks like, but her coverage with Rinder was pretty hard hitting. She read him the Chult’s letter to her about what a blahblahprofessionalliarbigotwifebeateretc he his without warning him and he knocked it out of the park. This is not a red/blue issue, its a human issue, a dignity and expectation of rights issue. Doesn’t matter which side of the aisle says it, or which gets it done. I support whoever moves the ball forward and so should you- for the sake of these people getting their hearts and souls trampled on every single day with these monsters.

          • Mymy88

            Yes! BUT… Tony, Tory, Paulette and Steven, were standing on Mike Rinder’s shoulders (the Megyn Kelly interviews) as well as many other courageous anti-Scientology critics, and that’s a point I should have made right off the bat, but I failed to do that. It’s kind of like an accumulating snowball effect as it rolls down closer and closer to smashing its objective which lies at the bottom of the hill. The further it rolls, the more momentum is gathered and the bigger it gets.

            • AnyOldName1

              The more exposure the better. Agree with you there. However, getting the BEST information out is best. I was disappointed that Don Lemon was ill prepared, seemed to care less, just going through the motions of asking questions someone else wrote, promoting their in-house “expert” (who had as much air time as Tony or Steve and twice as much as Tory, Paulette got 1 comment?), and advertising “Going Clear” for their “sister network” (HBO).

              I like that some airtime was devoted to this, but given the coverage other media have provided, this “interview” was totally lame.

            • Mymy88

              I can’t remember if I replied to you because I’m in
              Disqus right now and I don’t have time to check each of my posts from yesterday. I apologize if I did already reply.

              I agree with all that you say, but my point is that, in spite of all of that, I still think overall, it was a spectacular event.

            • Hingle McCringleberry

              Okay, I’ll give you that. Fact of the matter is that these people don’t coordinate and to them, this is just a story. CNN squandered what could have been an awesome and oft re-watched segment, but they failed to do so. They had four of the most insightful and authoritative folks right out front, but CNN being CNN, someone’s gotta go back out and try to find that Malaysia Airlines flight. It could have gone better, but people like TO, PC, Magoo, and Hassan will get more coverage. Its up to people like us to keep this debate alive. Three days from now, MSNBC will be making fun of rednecks being afraid that Obama is going to tax the roadkill cooler in the back of their trucks and FOXNews is going to make fun of liberal elites complaining about the quality of the cucumber water at the abortion clinic.

    • Juicer77

      Taped it to watch later. I’m sure you all did your best, O master of the sound bite.

      • Sherbet

        Oh, and he got a classic one in tonight, Juicer.

    • AnyOldName1

      Sorry Tony. I was really disappointed. You, Steve, Tory and Paulette TRIED to say something relevant, but all Lemon was interested in was promoting their in-house “expert” and reading the next lame question someone prepared for him. Hate to say it, but Megyn Kelly at Fox had a better grip on the topic when she interviewed Mike Rinder.

      • Jenstnick

        I didn’t see it. The fact that Megan the Asshat prepared more for her interview is depressing.

  • The Dude

    The first 3 min. of this gem of a vid. Is a good summation of any “Self-Help” movement.

    The rest is pure comic gold from The Master.

    F5

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=385&v=tVlkxrNlp10

    • Rasha

      Got 2 of his albums on the iPhone, plus DVDs, and one book. Reminds me of my Dad a lot.

      • The Dude

        He reminds me of me….LOL!

  • Mymy88

    Congratulations Tony, Tory, Paulette and Steven! From the comments I’m seeing, it seems some of you, who are posting down thread, are lacking in being able to have an appropriate objective perspective. Not that you can be blamed. That’s going to happen when you have been fighting a fierce and dangerous foe for many years, as many of you have. That interview threw a punch to Scientology like no other I’ve seen.

    I could be wrong. I’m not an expert in these matters, but it just looks so obvious to me, I just had to say something.

    Edited for clarity, several times.

    • Rasha

      I agree. Despite my feeling it could have been longer, it cannot be denied that such outright statements against the chult are practically unheard of until now. That’s really the perspective, I think, that shows how important it was.

      • Sherbet

        This is true.

      • Mymy88

        And don’t forget, this was a prime time live CNN interview! Well at least on the East coast it was. I almost had to laugh at some of the comments I was reading. I was like holy cow! Some of these people need to take of their “afraid to claim too much victory” blinders. Not that I blame them for not taking them off. Some of you have been wearing them so long, you don’t realize you even still have them on. Take them off you bunch of hero hearted soldiers! You are victorious! Own it! For God’s sake!

        • Sherbet

          Any poke in cos’s eye is a victory, but the segment was too short, too crowded with people who had important things to say, and the moderator was losing control and could only panic. However, I’ll agree with you that we should own it, embrace it, and hope it gives DM further anxiety that the whole empire is unraveling right before his eyes.

          • Mymy88

            Sure, there were plenty of things that deserve critiquing, but I’m still strongly saying, it was a blow like no other, and of course, that’s taking into consideration, all the other peoples’ shoulders, that have greatly contributed to the cause, they were standing upon, as they very effectively aimed and glared their flashlights, on the weaknesses of this now stumbling and blinded beast.

            ETA: And yes Sherbet, I totally agreed when you said the empire is unraveling right before tiny fists’ eyes.

            • Sherbet

              OK, let’s shake on it.

            • Mymy88

              Yes sir… “hearty up and down hand shake!” lol

            • Sherbet

              That would be ma’am, not sir, but shaking heartily anyway.

            • Mymy88

              Oh my gosh. I’m so sorry. But what do you expect? I’m still a newbie lol.

            • Sherbet

              It’s OK. But next time I’ll remember to apply lipstick.

            • Mymy88

              LOL! No need! You being silly now, hahaha.

      • Mymy88

        You and are on the same page lol. And it was 4, count them, 4, high profile Scientology critics!Take that Miss Cabbage Miscavige! Your foes are multiplying like bunny rabbits!

  • Jimmy Threetimes

    O/T: help me solve a bet. Is a Lemon a… You know what… Never mind. This sounds like way too much trouble. Good night.

    • Rasha

      Legume? You can say it. We’re in the Twenty-Teens now.

      …and no, it’s not a legume.

      • Sherbet

        Jelly Bean?

        • Rasha

          …marsupial?

          • Sherbet

            Flavor of sherbet?

      • Super Power Wogsy

        ..vegetable???

    • Super Power Wogsy

      Great…now I’m craving lemonade!!! Night Sir!

    • Newiga

      a child of Meepthorp?

      • Super Power Wogsy

        the Avi!!!! : ) Cant get enough.

    • Sherbet

      All I know is, lemon tree very pretty, and the lemon flower is sweet, but the fruit of the poor lemon is impossible to eat. So true, so true.

      • villagedianne

        Trini Lopez.

        • Sherbet

          Rumor has it that lrh fired on Mexico just to get Lopez to stop singing the damn song. Trufax.

          • villagedianne

            Picture of Lopez. Hubbard just jealous.

            • Sherbet

              Lopez probably had teeth.

  • Snake Plissken

    Frontline on PBS needs to step up and do a follow up investigation to ‘Going Clear’ and the abuses of the Church Of Scientology, this is far too important to be left for cable news to cover.

    • Frodis73

      YES!

  • ElleGee

    Hey ya’ll! Have a quick question. I commented over at the Rolling Stone article on JB and someone commented to me twice, but then there is no record of the comments. I got an email with the reply to me, but when I tried to reply to them, it was as if it never was written. The question is this: WTF do they mean? Here they are:

    TeamCropDusters

    You are despicably evil ElleGee. You prey on the weak and stupid, and do it under the guise that you are helping them. Truly evil.

    1:11 a.m., Monday April 6 | Other comments by TeamCropDusters

    AND

    TeamCropDusters

    The new scientology PR playbook… play along with the shots taken at us like we aren’t fucking sociopaths…

    Again, you are truly evil ElleGee. Truly.

    1:15 a.m., Monday April 6 | Other comments by TeamCropDusters

    My comment was just a list of 5 books about furthering one’s knowledge about co$. Very mundane. And the odd thing is that TCD’s profile does not look to be a scibot at all. Just kinda perplexed and thought some of you that are not ‘new to the game’ might know what these meant, if anything. Kinda hard to be insulted when you don’t ‘get it’. Thanks to all in advance. Peace.

    • Sherbet

      Were they referring to Elle?

      • ElleGee

        No. It was to me. See how they call me ElleGee and its in direct response to my comment.

        • Sherbet

          Very odd.

          • ElleGee

            Indeed. There is so much ‘code’ speak with scibo that I didn’t know if I was getting some sort of message that required a decoder ring. lol

            • phoebequeen

              I was looking at Waterhorse’s comments. YowZers.

            • ElleGee

              Yep.

    • Orglodyte

      Is it possible they are new to the game and think you are promoting pro-Scientology books?

      • ElleGee

        Maybe? Just strange because when you look at their profile, they just seem crazy over sports and politics, no scibo stuff.

        • phoebequeen

          I just looked at his profile. He might just be full of it and trying to start an argument.

          • ElleGee

            Yah, if you notice the times were close together (1:11 and 1:15 am) and immediately retracted. I thought maybe he was a little tipsy from imbibing on adult ‘whatever’ or just mistaken. The messages themselves, the retraction, the profile are collectively weird….where’s Fox Mulder and Dana Scully when you need them?

    • Mymy88

      I had the same thing sort of happen to me once, only yours is much more bizarre and complicated. I have no idea what is going on with that. Wow. Panopea Abrupta is good at figuring things like that out. Maybe you should ask her.

      • ElleGee

        If it happens again, I think I will take your advice and ask her. I’m pretty lame at tech stuff, and I will be the first to admit it. I went back in and asked the poster on an old post of theirs (in an unrelated post), why they contacted me and then retracted. I tried to follow the link to the reply but it wouldn’t go through, so I just picked an old one of theirs. Bascially asked them WTH are they talking about?

        • Mymy88

          Yeah… beats me.

          • ElleGee

            Thanks MM88 for idea. Guess I’ll turn in now. Night!

            • Mymy88

              You are welcome ElleGee. I hope you find out what’s going on.

    • phoebequeen

      Sometimes, a poster will arrange for their comments to appear as spam so they will be disappeared like Jimmy Hoffa. Very odd.

      • ElleGee

        Hmmm. Wonder if that is what happened here?

        • Ben Franklin

          Maybe the moderator deleted the comments

          • ElleGee

            Maybe? I tried to find the moderator’s link, but was unsuccessful. Disqus can be very frustrating. For me, at least.

  • Rasha

    [Nox], kids. Hate to say g’night, but need the sleep.

    • Super Power Wogsy

      Night Rasha! Sweet Dreams girl!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Sometime back in the 20th Century — making it more’n 15 years ago — I was at the Rainbow Bar, Sunset Strip, around midnight. Having drinks on the prowl hangin’ out willin’ ‘n chillin’.

    A cat asked me for a light, I lit his Kool. He turned to me and said,
    “Follow me, I have the code, the code to the key, the key to the secret, the secret of space.

    Man- I was blown away. Forget it. Completely. Blown away.

    • ElleGee

      Meow! 😉

    • Mymy88

      Hahaha! Too funny MaxSpaceman. Wow. Can you hook me up with him? Where? Did you say Starfish Strip? LOL

    • Chee Chalker

      Scientologists say ‘blow away’. As in, ‘Battlefield Earth was blow away sir’. Just more misuse of the English language.

    • Ben Franklin

      Where is this cat now? Never follow a strange cat.

  • Donna Cline Sargent

    Did anyone get the CNN link?

  • stillgrace2

    Hey Bunker … just got home and on my drive home KGO radio station was talking about scientology and Going Clear. They had a lawyer on (I didn’t recognise his name) who claimed he has had many successful litigations against scientology.

    The female sidekick on the show was FUNNY. The host would say something like “Everyone has the right to believe anything they want”. Then she’d say “And I have every right to call them all FREAKS.” It was a fun drive home. I’ll look up the name of the lawyer and append it here. Maybe others have heard of him.

    Sorry I missed the “fun” downstream. I’ll say it: my spidey-senses have been tingling like heck over that certain newbie TY for days now. FWIW.

    • stillgrace2

      Here’s the name of the lawyer. Anyone heard of him? (F5)

      • PappeKak

        ”Aylsworth Crawford Greene III (born December 21, 1952) is an American attorney from San Anselmo, California, noted for having successfully conducted litigation against the Church of Scientology.” from https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Greene

      • Ford Green is well known in the history of cult litgation.

  • Sir_Real

    This is what happens when I take even one day off from the Bunker to tend to other pressing business: no other than Mike Rowe comes to the defense of an established associate wronged by the “church”. Mr. Rowe additionally expresses his outrage at the decades-long shenanigans of that creepy cult we so loathe. Such a well liked, well known public figure voicing his disdain for that dirty, despicable criminal enterprise will accelerate the growing awareness, and disapproval, of the public at large for LRH’s fraudulent folly.

    • Mymy88

      Yessssssss! Fist fucking pump!

  • Super Power Wogsy

    Tweet from CNN tonight-Tory shot

    • Mymy88

      Now tell me? Is she pressing the most important red flashing button when she talks about her waking up process that was largely accomplished because of the specific experience she had, that led to the moment of her epiphany, or what! It’s all about freedom of speech when you get down to the bottom line.

      • Super Power Wogsy

        Yep. That’s why we are all here in the first place.

        • Mymy88

          Ha ha. So true Wogsy. What’s funny is after I listened to the link you put up, I saw they also had “Free Your Mind”. That’s going to be my personal motto as a message to anyone trapped in the world of double think, as so many Scientologists are.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            …that’s a good one. You should use an envogue avi with that too : )

            • Mymy88

              Oh my gosh! You are so right! but I’m so attached to my pup with the weird expression on his face lol.

    • Ben Franklin

      Good to see Tory on CNN. The SPs are winning. They are all over major news networks. DM is in hiding, can’t get any better

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You look amazing, Tory!

      • MaxSpaceman

        Would love a snip of her holding up the goldenrod Declare !

      • Ella Raitch

        Doesn’t she…

    • PappeKak

      Wow. Tory was on with Tony Ortega and Paulette Cooper tonight?

      • Super Power Wogsy

        yep and steve hassaan : )

        • PappeKak

          Win/Win. +LOLZ

          • Super Power Wogsy

            lol : ) damn and i won’t edit for the lulz. i was switching between screens when i typed that.

  • Super Power Wogsy

    Extremely annoyed CNN has a video link of Salt N Pepper but a link to the other segment

    • Mymy88

      That better be an honest mistake they made or I’m going to be pissed!

      • Super Power Wogsy

        …i dunno but i have the damn Salt N Pepper stuck in my head again…

        • Mymy88

          Whatta man, whatta man, whatta mighty good man! I love that song lol.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            Well no it was the Push it good one. But i Love the “Whatta Man” song…damn it here is is for your Bunker entertainment

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NiO81RTa4p8

            • Mymy88

              I needed that. I’m about to fall asleep with the laptop in my lap, so thank you lol.

  • Orglodyte

    For The Win!

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    SNL video now has over one million views.

    • Ben Franklin

      I am still surprised that the church didn’t send any of the Karin Pouw letters to SNLor NBC. SNL would have so much fun with such letters from Scientology

    • MaxSpaceman

      Most excellent, Sir H. TC B8

  • beauty for ashes

    What a trainwreck that interview segment was! Why bother having these amazing people with great stories to tell and important information, if you are going to cut them off right when they get to the interesting parts. Did this guy know anything about his guests? Did he have any plan at all?
    That was more aggravating than watching HSN!

    • Zana

      What interview was this? I’m just getting to the almost 3,000 comments from today… was here this morning. Ahhhh… keeping up with this blog is taking over my life. 🙂 And i love it!

      • MaxSpaceman

        too funny, Zana ! 🙂
        ( too true :-/ )

      • beauty for ashes

        CNN. Our Proprieter, Tory Christman, Paulette Cooper, and Steve Hassan. Interviewed by a guy who forgot to do his homework. Punchline~ his name is Lemon, Don Lemon. 🙂

        • EnthralledObserver

          Do we have a link yet? *wishes*

          • beauty for ashes

            Oh sorry honey it was on my dvr. I was watching masterpiece theatre with my sis who leaves tomorrow and my mom. BTW Don’t watch Jeremy Piven try to act with British actors ever.

            • EnthralledObserver

              That’s Ok – I’ll have a google and see if I can find it myself. What’s the name of the show it aired on, if you know. 🙂

            • PappeKak

              I am looking for it too.

            • Frodis73

              Don Lemon is the guys name and I can’t find it yet either.

            • MaxSpaceman

              It’s posted above with a screen shot of the thing. 🙂

            • MaxSpaceman

              Right? He. is. the. worst.

              ‘All’ of the cast ‘exept’ Piven has gravitas in their performance. He is like paper mache playing against them.

            • beauty for ashes

              LMAO!!!!!! My poor Mom. My sister and I were just mercilessly ripping apart his performance, his cadence, his wig by John Travolta, everything. And then laughing so hard. I had to lean over and apologized to my mom.
              “You know this is a TRUE story!” she said back without looking at me.
              You’re right though~ the real victims are the actors who have to play against him.

            • MaxSpaceman

              I avoided it, as I saw a trailer back when and he was so patently awful, I never watched. But turned it on for some reason tonight and loved the sumptuous British production. And was aghast! that Piven was worse! yes worse than I had imagined! There aren’t enough Rotten Tomatos for that guy!

            • beauty for ashes

              I think I watched two episodes. I kept thinking *Oh not him AGAIN!* Why you got to ruin this Jeremy Piven?

            • MaxSpaceman

              You know, tho’, it probably got made because of whatever Q-rating et al from HBO’s Entourage. Could’ve been his participation cinched the deal, to move ahead and produce the thing. They couldn’a ‘ve known he’d make a wreck of it so badly.

            • beauty for ashes

              Entourage~ he was great! I think that’s why I’m so upset.
              *Naught ONE good scene, for free ours, naught a one uv ’em* (okay end derail)

            • MaxSpaceman

              you’d think he forgot how to play a role ! Ranks up there for Worst Performance in Anyone’s Career ! Lolol. (Ciao, off to zzzzzzz’s)

        • Zana

          Can I find it here? I went out to the CNN website and it wasn’t there. Hmmm….someone will get it here.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Been to the CNN site too – I don’t think I can watch any vids there anyway.. will need a youtube copy that isn’t restricted.

  • StudentOfLife

    It’s 10am and after getting hammered on a few comments on depression causing a lot of missed work time I’m here at 10pm PST catching up. Have to be careful how I word things apparently as I’m new to online blogging and I just type whatever comes out of my mind normally but will have to pause and read before sending. I just found the Funny Quote of the Day from Mat Pesch over at Rinder’s blog: “The main difference between a Catholic and a Scientologist is that one is asked to pray 5 times a day and the other is asked to pay 5 times a day.” Snake Thompson’s Ghost then adds: “While the Rastafarians are only obligated to play five times a day.” Good night to all the Bunkerites and can’t wait to see what Tony and Mike Rinder’s site spring on us Tuesday. Both have upped their game recently.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Love Mat’s comment ! Too funny ~

    • MadMaxi

      Good to see you back, it takes awhile to learn the ways of online life sometime. Thanks for sharing the humor 🙂

    • Mymy88

      It’s non stop suspense and drama! I like it!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Those in the effort, the scientology critic community, longer than a newbie, maybe have a different perspective on the CNN Don Lemon Show, than, say, the newbie would. And for many, that means a different take on the effectiveness of the CNN piece.

    The two perspectives converge in agreement that
    — any appearance on CNN in Prime Time is, in itself, a huge success
    — bringing the subject of Scientology to hundreds of thousands of people, who’ve never heard of it; that’s a huge win
    — introducing Paulette Cooper to, eventually w/in hours or a day, more than a million people, is a huge success!
    — Showing, with a full-screen slide, Paulette’s book, “The Scandal of Scientology” was a huge success
    — having Tory on CNN as part of the voices against the cherch, who are recognized by major media outlets, a huge, huge win!
    — having The Underground Bunker Website address said out loud to the viewing audience, a huge success.

    At the same time, the disappointments — those comments — are valid. The piece moderated by Don Lemon, who belongs on Access Hollywood, not a News CableNetwork. There were shortcomings; too many guests, way too short amount of time.

    And then again the gains were enormous.

    • Sarah James

      +1:-)

    • Jenstnick

      Don Lemon is far more watchable than Megan Kelley at least. It’s a win for our side.

      • MaxSpaceman

        I agree with you there. But Megan ‘did’ do a better job than Lemon. But she only had 1 guest, who was there with her. Lemon had 4, none of whom were there. And he made a mess of it kinda.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          “kinda”? for sure, but at least it showed 4 people all who are terrific.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        For you maybe, Megyan was really interested and asked good questions. I just happen to Like Megyan and don’t know Lemon and don’t plan on watching him again. Just personal choice eh?

        • Jenstnick

          Yeah I didn’t see Lemon’s interview and I made my comment before knowing how bad he blew it. Kelley is an ignoramus and I loathe Fox in general. That being said, she did a decent enough job. I’m disappointed cnn gave this interview to Lemon.

          • ThePanopticon

            Lemon is a dipstick. I don’t understand why he has a job.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Disappointed, me too, never heard of him before.

    • Mymy88

      Yeah! You know how to really break it down, MaxSpaceman. Thank you.

  • Super Power Wogsy

    Tweet from CNN: TONY!!!!!! f5

    • MaxSpaceman

      That was a great line, from Tony O. Perfect.

    • Mymy88

      Oh! I forgot something that really struck me as I watched Tony Ortega speak, I felt I could sense his frustration with trying to drive home over and over, for countless numbers of times, the point of what he is saying to… well, I don’t want to say idiots although I’m sure there are plenty of them… let’s put it this way, trying to drive home the point to

      “ability to feel compassion and willingness to consider counter evidence,

      “challenged individuals”.

      Mr. Ortega, if you happen to read this comment, I just want to stress that I think you are doing a smash up ass kicking job! And that you always do!

  • Super Power Wogsy

    Tweet from CNN: Paulette Cooper F5

  • Mockingbird

    In case no one has said it the YouTube masterpiece Neurotology has reached 980,000 views !!! In a few hours it will pass one million views !!! Stats straight up and vertical !! Good luck OSA !!! Give up now and turn yourselves in to the cops . The first few might get a good deal and no prison time – no promises .

  • Mockingbird

    Oooooooowie oooweeeeeee we believe !!!
    Oooooooooowie oooooooowie we believe !!!!

    • Frodis73

      I love that part. Lol.

      • Mymy88

        I find it so spectacularly amazing, that SNL nailed $cientology to the wall so perfectly and effectively, using little white arrows and captions, but they pulled it off like few things I’ve witnessed before. One example would be when I saw the footage of a dead man that was floating in the flood waters of hurricane Katrina.

        There are certain rare moments when you just go ‘WHOA, I totally fucking-A get it now!” I was cluless just five minutes before… 5 minutes! Sometimes that’s all it takes if you can find something to focus on, that people instinctively feel in their hearts as being very WRONG.

  • Mymy88

    DUH! That’s right John Travolta. The church has been so beautiful FOR YOU! You hearing us John? No of course you don’t, because you don’t want to! My patience with these kind of people runs thinner and thinner at each passing day, they stubbornly remain willfully ignorant.

    Look Mr. Travolta! The people that are being slowly and tortuously digested inside of the Scientology beast’s belly, are not feeling like the church

    “is so beautiful”.

    Give me a break and a barf bucket!

    ***** SNIP BEGINS *****
    John Travolta Defends Scientology From ‘Going Clear’: The Church Has Been “So Beautiful for Me”
    ***** SNIP ENDS *****

    http://commentspro.com/lead/277603

    • Sir_Real

      I didn’t quite make it to the barf bucket in time after reading the headline alone.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        He said “watching it would be a personal crime”

        • Kay

          How ironic…that is a personal crime? How does that fit in with the actual crimes that the CoS has been and is guilty of, i.e. human trafficking, government infiltration, unlawful imprisonment, child abuse, assault? Wow.

          • Mymy88

            I know! Right? Let’s make a comparison… watching television compared to car-jacking someone. Yep, he watched an episode of the Micky Mouse Play House. Cuff him, Dano! Okay, I know I’m exaggerating, but not by much.

        • Mymy88

          Ah, so John is a fan of falsely leading semantics. Wow, I’m surprised he was capable of thinking of tricky ways to say things like this… Oh wait… I bet the punching pontiff has a list of tricky semantics on gold plated tablets, as if they were akin to the 10 commandments, and makes members, especially celebrity members, study and memorize them.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Right, one is, just tell them your wins, that’s all. I remember that was one way to offset someone.

            • Mymy88

              I have never hated anyone as I hate Miscavige.

            • Mymy88

              David Mustravage’s dick needs to be.. Wait, I need to stop.. deep breath.. downshifting.. Ah hem… I’ll try to start off better this time. David Pusshavage needs to realize the cat is out of the bag and the cat is very very pissed. But David Pusshavage is having too much fun floating around in his wanna be Hitler fantasies to notice.

              The cat is going to get his attention really quick though. Anybody knows you do not mess with a really pissed off cat. Especially one that’s been held hostage in a bag for over 50 years. The media is slicing the dapper Davyboy Pusshavage up as if he were cabbage in a Ninja model X66 high performance food processor, set on its highest possible, blade spinning speed. Pass the pop corn please ha ha!

      • Mymy88

        Ha ha ha. It is mammothy insulting to peoples’ intelligence when they hear him say something like that, once they realize that he knows he’s treated better than non-celebrity members of the cherch, yet, he STILL says things like this. WTF?

      • Mymy88

        Yep, it is sickening and infuriating. I can’t wait to see what happens to him in the future.

  • PappeKak

    OK. Is there a transcript of tonight’s CNN Lemon segment? Or a video link? If not, would someone please point me to a post in these nearly 3,000 posts that would be a synopsis. Pretty please?

    • MaxSpaceman

      see the picture of Lemons show up thread. that address: if it will be anywhere, it should be there. Unless Time Warner lawyers advised not to post it. Too hot to handle kind of thing. But it’ll appear. It has to, somewhere. 🙂

  • XIBRR (Ex SO/IntBase/RPF’sRPF)

    The SNL “Neurotology” video has passed 1 MILLION views! : ) Its stats couldn’t be more “straight up and vertical”! Ha ha!

    http://youtu.be/fOpapeX6Vzs

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      11,550 over a million. Bravo!

    • AnyOldName1

      In less than 48 hours since it was posted? Does that make it “viral”? Is “viral” straight up & vertical?

      If yes to any of the proceeding questions, better make sure the exit plan is ready to go.

      If yes to all three questions, prepare the escape pod for launch.

    • Jenstnick

      In scientology stats, that would be Eleventy billion views.

  • Frodis73

    Not sure if this has been posted yet…interview with Elizabeth Moss…I’m not to the sci part, but in the comments somebody asked if the interview was a sci because he is saying sci is being persecuted…and he watched the doc!!!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHKNGSNyj90&feature=youtu.be

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      They talk about it late in the video. She’s a born robot. Hope she wakes up.

      • Frodis73

        Thanks, I’m more than half way through. I am shocked that this host saw the movie and came down on the side of the cult…wtf? Was he dropped on his head? Prob just wants in her pants.

        • That was fairly pathetic in its entirety. The brown nosing was very brown. I find Ms. Moss to be an engaging personality and a wonderful actress. I hope she wakes the F up.

      • hansje brinker

        She seems a coward, only concerned with her career………..jak.

    • PappeKak

      Payola?

    • beauty for ashes

      What would Peggy do Elisabeth Moss!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!?

    • Mark Foster

      Host sounds like a scientologist. Asserts that the ¨religion´s newness gives people carte blanche ¨ to pick on it.
      Moss…HAS NO COMMENT TO MAKE ON THE FILM. That´s what she says! A Confederacy of Dunces…

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Well, she’s smarter than Travolta so far.

        • Mark Foster

          Maybe, Dee…
          To defend-without the use of factual data as a rebuttal to the film´s assertions- or not comment… are the available choices for a ¨good¨ scientologist. The masters of matter, energy, space, and time can´t even look at a fucking documentary about their own ¨religion¨ and form their own opinions about it or use it as a springboard to research the veracity of its claims. That is a mind-set defined by fear…and a rabid, hypnotically-induced/conditioned defensiveness…I remember it. .There´s, finally, nothing smart about the habitual thought-stopping, suppression of emotions, and curtailing of curiosity that goes with the practice of and adherence to scientology…

          • hansje brinker

            +100!
            Just twittered this:
            Scientology/ Travolta: “Happy slaves are made to give them freedom of responsibilty”-LRH.
            John, don’t put your head in the sand.

            • Mark Foster

              did you mean freedom ´from´ responsibility, as in not having to think for themselves, instead following Cartoon Flubbard blindly?

            • hansje brinker

              Shoot: It is “from”. You are right!

            • Mark Foster

              I assume you speak 2 or more languages. Juggling the usage details and syntax from language to language is tough! Much respect and warm regards 🙂

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            You’re absolutely right. I gave a too quick answer and now I remember how it was, thank you. Just was so mad at Travolta’s answer I didn’t give much thought. “rabid, hypnotically-induced/conditioned defensiveness” Nasty business for sure.

            • Mark Foster

              As we both can attest! Hugs to you and I-betty 🙂

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        President Bartlett would probably have let the terrorists keep her if he knew she was a clam. . .

  • Kay

    I just read Travolta’s comments also. I wanted to throw up. What other “church” has a SEPARATE building for celebrities? Does he ever think about that? True religion is about caring for the poor, homeless, and disadvantaged. It’s not about getting valet parking and free slaves to wait on you. It just boggles my mind. The fact that he refuses to watch Going Clear….predictable, and sad.

    • Mymy88

      Right! It’s like, “Hey John! Don’t you ever get curious and want to see how the other half lives?” Apparently, the answer is, nope. Hmm, I wonder why that is, John?

  • outraged

    There are new readers upvoting my random comments from MONTHS ago.
    That is so cool.

    The public wrath has been stirred and shaken.

    • Super Power Wogsy

      Yes. Same here! : ) Isnt that awesome?

    • MaxSpaceman

      great news, outraged !

    • Mymy88

      I know! It’s unbelievable. I go to one news site to the next, or to one social networking site to the next, and I see two things, and maybe it’s about 50/50. I see outraged people, and people that say, “Na na na.. I don’t know what I’m talking about because I’m a complete dumbass with no reading comprehension skills, but all religions are the same”.

      It makes me want to bang my head against a wall, repeatedly. But the point is that so many more people are expressing their outrage. I’d guess it’s around a 85 to 90% increase, than what it was before ‘Going Clear’, premiered at the Sundance Festival in January.

      • Frodis73

        That all religions are the same and cults argument is driving me NUTS. It’s mostly my peeps, the agnostics and atheists, and they are pissing me off and NOT being rational about it. The irony. It really pisses me off.

        • PappeKak

          That all religions are the same argument is a trap as Admiral Ackbar said.

        • Mymy88

          I know. I am so sick of seeing that and hearing that, I try my best to avoid it, but it’s really impossible. There are so many dumbasses, er.. I mean people, who say that shit and it’s as if they didn’t even read the article they are commenting on. They just saw Scientology and automatically inside of their brain was this – religions / weird beliefs / no difference. But yes, there is a difference. The difference is many of $cien’s criminal and illegal actions ARE based on their beliefs AND are actually carried out. It’s the actually carried out part that is unacceptable to society but it’s like “zoop” brain turns off as soon as they think it’s just an article ragging on a religion just because it’s new, or seems to have weird beliefs, or whatever.

          It’s like this automatic switch that gets flicked in their head that makes them unable to give any consideration to anything said in the article that is contrary to their, already established, thought process, and that’s IF they even bother to read it, or to at least pay attention when they do read it.

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            Some need educating and some won’t listen. It’s always helpful to give some facts and a chance for others to read too. Keep your goal in mind of educating and those that won’t listen, ignore and move on. That’s my mama advice tonight. You are amazing and have fire in the belly. 🙂

            • Mymy88

              lol Oh, okay. Yep, I do need constant reminding that sometimes there are people who are innocently ignorant and so it’s best to handle everyone with kid gloves until you determine they are actually, willfully stupid lol. Please don’t pay me compliments because you have not seen the shit storm starter side of me. It’s not pretty O_o It’ll probably end up getting me kicked off this forum some day lol. I gotta be me, that’s all I can say.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              You are amazing and fire in the belly, that’s what I see and I admire. Like you being you and thanks.

            • Mymy88

              Awww shucks, thank you for your kind and generous compliment. I was going to say I’ll try to live up to them but they are really easy. I mean who isn’t going to have a fire in their belly when they find out the truth. And me being me is pretty easy too lol.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          The term you’re looking for is Gnosticism. This is when a religious movement offers salvation (from, you know, whatever), but requires special knowledge to achieve. The concept is thousands of years old, divided Christianity in half in the first 300 years AD (as in Anno Domini, not After Dianetics), and eventually got stamped out. If you’ve ever heard of lost gospels like the Gospel of Thomas or the Infancy Gospel- these were their version of the New Testament, which didn’t fall into it’s modern form until 425AD. Look it up! Knowing is Half the Battle– GI JOE!!!!!

        • Mymy88

          I used to reply to those types of comments that were made on articles from on-line news sources, but I got so sick of explaining the same thing over and over, I stopped replying to those types of posts. I just could not take the frustration anymore.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Don Lemon’s CNN Tonight Website has “Salt ‘n Peppa” segment up. But not Tony and Paulette and Tory’s segment. But they have the Scilon attack video right there. See pic F5.

    Yeeeeesh. http://www.cnn.com/shows/cnn-tonight

    • Mymy88

      DISGUSTING!

    • Super Power Wogsy

      It is apparent their audience are “millennials”, and I apologize on behalf of us all. But “Whatta Man” is considered old school now : )

      • Mymy88

        I think CNN knew that also, Wogsy, which is why I find it quite puzzling that CNN did not put a link for the interview. I’d like to try to find out though. It’s always possible it was some kind of screw up, but that’s a pretty big screw up, but who knows?

        • Super Power Wogsy

          i thought so too. that is probably why they only had screen shots of the segment. one video link would’ve been plenty right?

          • Mymy88

            Are you saying it also sucks that they only put up screenshots when they could have much more easily just put up a link? You’re damn right about that too.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Yes. it would have been much more efficient and less twitter space. Not that i don’t love seeing screenshots of Tory, Tony and Paulette.

            • Mymy88

              Yeppers, I agree. Whatup with that? And CNN used to have a comments section, but not anymore.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              they have a video link posted a couple of hours ago but it is a video from April 1st, and it is a replay of the Gibney/Wright interview

            • Mymy88

              WTF! But of course, they made sure to have the link of the interview that came right after the high profile Scientology critics interview… they had that link up immediately. I bet the link for the interview with the Scientology critics will never be put up and dont’ ask me why because I have to idea. It is ridiculous!

              The two women they interviewed have not had a hit in 15 or 20 years. Oh man, it pisses me off! I’m not putting the 2 woman down. They did have some huge hits in the 90’s. I LOVED their music but I’m just stating the obvious, and so did you, Super Power Wogsy.

          • Mymy88

            Sure! And it sure as heck would have been better than no link!

    • PappeKak

      Methinks CNN might have some splainin to do.

  • Jack99

    Oh,fuck you Travolta! I hope you go down with the ship, along with Cruise and Alley. I hope there’s a big hole in the lifeboat. And then the sharks come… I’m sure it will be “beautiful”.

    • Frodis73

      Yep, sharks with big laser beams on their heads. He’s a coward!

    • Krista

      My thoughts exactly. Just when I thought my estimation of him couldn’t be any lower…

  • Mockingbird

    It is now official : Neurotology video has passed one million views !!!

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Cheers!

  • Mockingbird

    Time to party !!! Ooooooooooowie oooooooooowie we believe !Ooooooooooooowie ooooooooooooowie we believe !!!

    • Super Power Wogsy

      I love the passion Mockingbird : ) I hope everyone has had a chance to make it over to Mockingbirds Blog. It has a lot of good stuff in there. My favorite is the piece on Study Technology and how it relates to Mind Control. Check it out if this is your first time here. http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/insidious-enslavement-study-technology.html

    • SciWatcher

      Just took a look at you blog, Mockingbird. I browsed a little bit of the post you linked to. Very
      interesting. Much of the material–Earth or the physical plane as a type of
      prison for the soul, the cyclical nature of human history, moving through
      levels from the physical to spiritual enlightenment, automatic writing, etc–is
      very much part of the esoteric tradition, some of which goes back centuries or
      even millennia. But I’ve never heard of the OAHSPE. Amazing about the Drujas,
      Wall of Fire, the ethereal ship
      stationed near earth–Hubbard just blatantly ripped off that material, which as
      far as I know, is unique to Newbrough.

      • Mockingbird

        Thanks , I got the material from another source but looked at Oahspe a little for verifications and what I browsed seemed authentic. If everything I got secondhand is accurate I feel Hubbard must have taken it to control and fool people : it was a con and mind control cult earlier and also in his plagiarized version .

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    • Pierrot

      Thanks RedX reminder.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Follow me, I have the code,
    The code to the key,
    The key to the secret,
    The secret of space;

    We, we are the children,
    The children of Meepthorp,
    the science is there;

    We used to be starfish
    Enslaved by the seagulls
    But now we are free.

    Total Freedom. Done, Sir !

    • outraged

      take any mushrooms lately?

      just kidding. lol

      Sounds like a Coca Cola commercial.
      Except for the Meepthorp bit.
      btw: what exactly is/are/were a Meepthorp?
      robot burps?

      • MaxSpaceman

        Nurotology’s Xenu 🙂

    • Sidney18511

      On the USmagizine they have the video with the lyrics on it, and instead of “seagulls” it’s “sea gods”.

      I am forced to watch and laugh for the 100th time until I figure out which word it is.

      • MaxSpaceman

        take it into Audacity; slow it down; you’ll get it; then post it 3 times per day for 3 days.

        (that’s the only way you might be able to reach all the viewership on the Bunker.)

  • EnthralledObserver

    Americans – I heard over Easter that in the US (and now also a little in the UK) that the Easter Bunny delivers, not just chocolate or candy eggs and or bunnys, but toys, clothes, game consoles, cash, etc. Wow really!? Sheesh, hope my kids don’t hear about the unfairness of the Easter Bunny in our country. Anyway, to segue back on topic… surely someone taped that bloody show on CNN and can upload to youtube seeing as there is all this new technology floating around since Easter?
    😉

    • Pierrot

      It is on youtube, google youtube going clear and look for a video for 120+ minutes.
      Tony frown about giving links to bootlegged copies. Google it is there for me nearly at the end of the first page.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Sorry, Pierrot, I wasn’t clear… I’m chasing a youtube version of the CNN panel interview Tony, Tory, Paulette and Steve Hassan did today/last night. It’s not on their site, that I’m aware of, but nevertheless being in Australia I’m unable to play them anyway.
        I have seen Going Clear already – it was great! 🙂

  • To all Americans – wright to your Congressman. Petitions are good, but not as good.

    • Mark Foster

      Hola, DTL 🙂

    • 1subgenius

      This is true.

    • eucliditis

      Yes I contacted my senator the day after GC first aired. It was around 4 pm EST and his staffer and I had a long conversation. She said that I was the only caller and they thought there might be more contacts made. I made sure she knew I was not an ex member but a tax paying citizen who is tired of seeing billions of dollars being funneled from the treasury. Direct contact makes a big difference. I worked for a rep and believe me, they keep numbers on opinions about issues. One person’s call may never even be reported to the official. 20+ probably would.

      • Thank you very much! This is really good to know.

  • outraged

    No comment.

    • Mockingbird

      He will not be able to keep silent about this and smiling for long . The game has changed .

      • outraged

        ‘I’ve been so happy with my experience in the last 40 years…that I really don’t have anything to say..”

        Your son died.

        • Mockingbird

          Yeah , his son died he has had lots of relationship problems and there are pictures of him kissing a man on the mouth while claiming to be straight and married to a smoking hot young wife !!

          I do not care if he is gay BUT if the cult uses that to blackmail and control him then that is relevant .

          • outraged

            He is a fake. I don’t believe he cares AT ALL about the gay thing.
            He is out in the clubs cruising guys all the time.
            He knows we know.
            I have lost all respect for John Travolta,

            • Mockingbird

              You mean gay clubs picking up guys ?

            • outraged

              no….mostly gyms…
              he hits on guys. he is a sleaze ball.

            • Mockingbird

              So, he is ” on the down low ” ?

            • outraged

              No, his wife knows all about it.

              The down low are guys who have straight families and pretend.

            • Mockingbird

              I mean to press he pretends to be straight , or at least will not publicly come out of the closet ?

            • outraged

              YES!

              He is a fake, a fakey fake. lol.

              The worst kind of fake.

              One who knows we know he is a fake but he still fakes.

            • Mockingbird

              He can be gayer than Elton John and George Michael combined – I only have issues with the cult blackmailing him and his supporting Scientology . Otherwise enjoy your sex life .

            • outraged

              It doesn’t make sense to me that the cult is blackmailing him.
              About what?
              We all know he is gay.
              His wife knows.
              His kids know.
              Everyone knows.

              And John isn’t really sequestered like the sea orgers, right?

              This is about money and power.
              And maybe he is a coward.
              He does not want to lose face or whatever.
              I don’t know why Travolta sticks with the cult.
              It makes no sense.
              It is his wife.
              She has his balls in his hands.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Do you mean he gets payola for shilling?

            • outraged

              No, from who?
              Not Neurotology.
              They don’t pay a soul.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              you said this is about money and power. My question is “is he getting paid?”

            • outraged

              I mean money and power from his position in Hollywood.
              His movies, tv shows, commercials, etc.
              His JOB.
              He thinks that will go down if he outs himself from the cult.

              HE COULD NOT BE MORE WRONG.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              oh gotcha

            • outraged

              Actually, it is his wife, MIZ Kelly,
              who is ALSO a tried and true Neurologist,
              who won’t let him leave the cherch, I think.

              John is a slimy sleazy sad cowardly previously good actor.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              I know Kelly is the bigger koolaid drinker. and she would totally use the children as leverage unfortunately.uugh. that is sad i am so disappointed in him.

            • outraged

              John is a slimy sleazy sad cowardly previously good actor who tragically lost his son and maybe possibly could have saved the poor boy if he was not part of this disgusting kult but that has all happened already and I really really hate to bring up his son’s death. It is so sad.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              i don’t remember what meds he needed. does anyone know? i certainly know jett being autistic must have been a very difficult for KP and JT to deal with especially as scientologists.

            • outraged

              He had epilepsy.
              He was not taking meds, as far as I remember.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              WoW oh WoW oh WoW!!!
              ok i did not know that he had epilepsy.

              ok i just started tearing up. omfg.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Apparently (and I’m no expert) some epilepsy/seizures can accompany autism… they can go hand in hand.

            • outraged

              I keep writing stuff and deleting.

              This is one of the hardest STORIES FOR ME ABOUT THIS CULT.
              THE DEATH OF JOHN TRAVOLTAS SON.

              I know many peopole with autism, many with epilepsy.
              There is NO MED for autism.
              There are MANY MANY MEDS FOR EPILEPSY.

              Who can you blame? The boy is dead.
              But>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

              (I deleted it again. it just sounds too harsh. but it’s true.)

            • Super Power Wogsy

              ok now it makes sense to me. kinda goes back to what Tory has been stating in her videos about her medication for epilepsy and how she would have died if she stayed in. omg. that poor sweet boy didn’t have a fucking chance. that is just so wrong.

            • outraged

              Not one child who is forced into this hellish cult has a chance.
              It is all so wrong.
              You could not be more right.

            • Mymy88

              It doesn’t sound a bit harsh to me, outraged. I know you have that handle, sock, whatever the term is, for a reason.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              gotcha wow…ok

            • EnthralledObserver

              This is why Jett had a 24hr Nanny who slept in the room with him. But that night Jett got up and the Nanny didn’t hear him, and unfortunately he had a seizure in the bathroom and hit his head. The Nanny was there immediately after, but the damage was already done and the poor darling died of his injury. From my understanding he should have been on medication for the seizures (as they must have been rather frequent to warrent the 24/7 Nanny), but they stopped it (maybe)… prob pressure from $cientology. This is my understanding, but I may not have all the details correct, and I’ve only read it on the internet, so take it with a grain of salt.

            • outraged

              This is EXACTLY what I read.

              They did NOT give Jett his meds.
              It is a tragedy.
              But as far as I am concerned, the cult killed Jett.

            • 1subgenius

              And they did not give him proper medical supervision, but left him in the care of John’s boyfriend.

            • outraged

              very very tragic.
              everything about this cult is tragic.

            • Mark Foster

              Tory´s story, too. She was CONSTANTLY hammered about taking drugs for her epilepsy when she was a scientologist.

            • Mymy88

              Wogsy – On this video, Tory talks about why she feels that Jett died because he was not receiving the medication he needed.

              ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5Ed3nIwxpo

            • Super Power Wogsy

              thank you mymy. ill take a look at this.

            • Mymy88

              You’re welcome fly girl.

            • Mymy88

              Possibly? It needs to brought up but I understand why you hate to bring it up. I don’t like to either.

            • Mockingbird

              Some people still feel a leading man who is outed cannot play straight parts . Also it might kill his mom and his wife might be in denial , as long as she does not see the act or have him admit it – she can pretend .

            • outraged

              No one wants to touch him with a ten foot pole now.
              After he creeped all over Adina at the Oscars.
              And his hair plugs are falling out.

            • 1subgenius

              A counterfeit fake.
              Like an Elvis impersonator impersonator.

            • Graham

              So it’s possible that Travolting isn’t quaking in his boots that Scamatology might expose him as gay? Quite the reverse. It could possibly be that he’s a sexually exploitative sleaze-ball whose exploits are actually being enabled by his ‘cherch’, by helping him to cover up his abuses. An interesting alternative view, to set against the ‘poor victim Johnny’ theory that’s been dominant up until now.

        • Jack99

          “The Church of Scientology, which is believed to have around 50,000 members, denied the allegations featured in Going Clear and said the statements included were ‘entirely false.”

          At least the media has stopped uncritically restating the 10 million members claims.

    • hansje brinker

      He is just in the valence of Xenu……..

    • 1subgenius

      Is it real, or is it Madame Tussauds?

      • Graham

        I’m guessing it’s real. The Tussauds dummy has a bit more life in its eyes.

        • Mymy88

          Ooooo, low blow but very deserved LOL.

  • Mockingbird

    I must make this my ringtone !!!!!!

  • Mockingbird

    I just realized they have the ” Down Low Rundown ” !!! For Gay Scientologists who want to not have their ” indiscretions ” and “peccadilloes” disclosed to the world .

    First , talk about your sex life in auditing and reveal embarrassing and potentially career damaging material . Then simply pay money and never criticize Scientology and do press for Scientology for the rest of your life !!!

  • ThePanopticon

    The celebrities saying “no comment,” or that they won’t watch the film speaks volumes. It just proves everything the film said about being a prisoner of belief and refusing to look.

  • Mockingbird

    I wrote up the ” on the down low ” rundown up on Facebook and will put a copy here in a few hours . And at my blog and on ESMB .

  • Graham

    Just logged on this morning here in the UK, to see Travoltings pathetic response. “”I haven’t experienced anything that the hearsay has claimed, so why would I communicate something that wasn’t true for me?”

    Yeah- I’ve never experienced an automobile accident so why should I care about people who have? I’ve never experienced starvation, oppression or any one of a thousand other things, so why should I care about people who have? Head-in-sand tech at its most blatant and disgusting. What a cossetted, self-satisfied idiot.

    • Jack99

      “Other members are being abused? Ah, fuck ’em.”

      • “They must have pulled it in and/or they are downstat.”

      • Mymy88

        LOL – He might as well have said that hahaha – U funny.

    • 1subgenius

      Yeah, woke up to see that.
      “…anything the hearsay has claimed…”?????????
      Um, kind of stupid way to say it.
      The claims may, to him, be hearsay, but hearsay doesn’t claim something.
      He’s an idiot. But we knew that.

      • Jack99

        He couldn’t get himself to say Going Clear or the documentary.

        • 1subgenius

          It still makes no sense in the English language.
          How about the rather easy “I haven’t experienced what’s claimed. It’s just hearsay.”?.

          • Scream Nevermore

            Maybe Davykins wrote the statement for him – no way would he change a word of it, even at the risk of sounding stupid.

            • 1subgenius

              For certain they have been given their “talking points”.
              He just got them all jumbled up because he’s Vinnie Barbarino in real life.

            • Scream Nevermore

              It’s all backfiring on him. For example, my mum was like me, felt sorry for him trapped in a cult, etc. She’s seen Going Clear and read that interview. She told me last night that he’s dumped, scrubbed off her list of actors to watch. And I don’t think she’s the only person doing that.

            • 1subgenius

              Yep, it looks like they’re all going down (no jokes now) with the ship.
              I’m going to pay off my Bunker bet that JT and TC would leave the cult in 60 days, early.

          • Sherbet

            It doesn’t make JT any more sensitive or rational, but my interpretation is that it’s “hearsay” because he only heard what’s purported to be in the documentary. He hasn’t seen it, but he’s heard what’s in it. “Rumor has it” the film contains entheta and lies. I think that’s what he meant.

            • 1subgenius

              I think you’re right. And it’s really maddening to know that they keep it “hearsay” by intentionally not viewing the testimony.

              I do think that “hearsay” is a buzzword that was given to them as a talking point, and we will be seeing it more. In fact I can just about guarantee that the word will come out of Tom Cruise’s mouth.

      • what’suppressive

        He’s still my 4th favourite Sweat Hog.

    • Mockingbird

      I have never been in a concentration camp…I have never been raped…boy it sounds inhumanly insensitive when I put it that way . That is Travoltaspeak .

      • 1subgenius

        It really does not come off well.

    • Scream Nevermore

      ‘true for me’. a signal to the faithful that he’s still deep in the Kool Aid, quoting El Flabtard.

      • 1subgenius

        We can expect all future comments by others to sound remarkably similar.

    • Jack99

      “Well, Mr Travolta, you seem to be experiencing the kind of blindness that Paul Haggis talked about, never reading any critical information about the church.”

      • 1subgenius

        “If you were brainwashed, would you know it?”

    • 1subgenius

      By the way, it’s NOT hearsay.
      Hearsay is when someone relates what someone else said happened.
      The people in the movie were relating THEIR personal experiences.
      That is direct evidence.

      • Jack99

        Lawyers in a court of law would shout out Hearsay! every time the witness on the stand said something.

        • 1subgenius

          zactly

        • 1subgenius

          It’s kind of funny because “When were you born?” actually would require hearsay, because you only know what you were told.

      • Mark Foster

        Ah, Sub, you want JT to be literate AND logical?
        He says, ¨ Okay, but put on the leather first…¨

        • 1subgenius

          Well, whoever gave him his talking points is an idiot too.

          • Mark Foster

            Hubbard, via Dick-Tater-Tot. Sacred shit, er, scripture…

      • Baby

        They got some heavy shit on JT.. Gay is the least of his worries.. but it’s just my personal thoughts.. Never felt comfortable about the death of Jett.. Nannies( ?) his alleged ” Gay Lover” His death came to close to the picture taken of him indicating autism..

        and this alleged Gay Lover finding Jett in the bathroom..

        Kawasaki disease( ?) not autism..then autism but due to chemicals..
        The whole thing stinks to me.. and then low and behold another child appears.. When Preston was 48 ..

        and there should have been a professional caretaker for Jett around the clock… but they had this stupid untrained nanny?

        OH well..

        But I still think they got some heavy shit on him. And Tony hates rumors.. but just thinking out loud.

        • 1subgenius

          They have shit on him, but don’t discount the power of brainwashing.
          Like Hana said in the movie, “It sticks to you. You can’t get it off.”

          • Baby

            Yep..I hear ya sub

        • Mark Foster

          If you have ever had any auditing, they(¨the church¨) have shit on you, even if you´ve never done a sec check or a confessional, because part of ¨flying ruds¨ for any auditing session( purpose: to make sure a pc is ¨sessionable¨/able to be audited/ is under the auditor´s control) involves asking if the pc has any withholds, and if he/she does, he divulges them first, before the actual auditing session commences..
          Haggis, Beghe, Remini, to name a few…had the same or similar kind of shit hanging over them…and they left.
          Atack, Lerma, Hassan, and a host of others have written about scamatology´s hypnotic routines and brutal ´ethics tech´. That shit really IS toxic. JT is a poster-boy for the degradation of spirit and integrity that dianetics and scientology produce-which is the polar OPPOSITE of the promised results…

          • Baby

            We Must respiect the Ecclestical SKripters … Oh Holy Ghost…errr thetan hear my uhmm postulateeeee .. Hell DM Full of Shit..the Xnue be with you.. ” And with your thetan .. Your reg is waiting for your uhm.. ” Donation” …

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          • Jenny Lee de Becker

            I find it rather amusing that people worry about what the church of scientology might say about them, when they know that people may disclose “secrets” about past lives therefore past crimes. So anything they release could be some stuff you “remembered” about a past life/crimes? There isn’t even any proof of some of the things the church “asserts”. Some serious coffee needs to be brewed……….

    • Mymy88

      I agree with you Graham. He is going to get skewered for saying such things. But he’s begging on his knees for it, so I hope he enjoys it when he gets what he’s asking for, heh. I have to constantly remind myself that some people are incapable of logical thinking even though it’s necessary for survival, unless of course it is an infant or someone with a brain injury. So my assessment of John Travolta’s situation is he’s either infantile in his thinking, or he has a brain injury. So someone must be providing him with the support he needs in order to survive. Hmm, I wonder who that could be? My concern is that the person providing John with this “support”, may have sinister intentions.

      But… if John wants to claim “I know nothing, I know nothing! like Schultz in ‘Hogan’s Heroes’, when he does fucking know about a lot of things, well most likely there are going to be some very harsh consequences for him. May God have mercy on his soul when that happens, if there is a God.

    • Jenny Lee de Becker

      I wish someone would ask ole’ Johnny boy where Heber is and if he will be taking him in as his personal houseguest in his retirement to help Heber out………Imagine John been confronted by a broken old man he once thought so highly of. Let’s see his reality shift then!

  • Jack99

    Ooh, Freedom media ethics twitter account now has 703 followers! How many people have seen the SNL parody video on youtube again? Ha ha

    • If they reach 1,000 followers – we are screwed. OT math.

      • Mark Foster

        the tipping point, yup 🙂

    • Mockingbird

      Over one million views !! We are officially in the Golden Age of J & D !!!

  • I hope not a single scientologist will watch Going Clear. But I am afraid it’s too late now. HBO and SNL ruined the salvation of this sector of the Galaxy. The psychs are happy with your progress, Bunkerites from planet Farsec.

    • Mark Foster

      Organizing a big picnic for the 4th and 5th Invader Forces right now. I hear that they are particularly fond of an earth drink known as ¨scotch¨ .

  • Scream Nevermore

    Ooooh, that burns!

    Ian Puddick ‏@ianpuddick 41 mins41 minutes ago
    #Scientology #HBO film #GoingClear #JohnTravolta says he refuses to watch it
    @peterjukes @johnsweeneyroar

    Bill Bligh ‏@BlighBKK 23 mins23 minutes ago
    @ianpuddick @johnsweeneyroar @peterjukes a pity as it’s his best role in years

    • Jack99

      Best role? It’s his best FILM in years!

    • KNMF

      Scientology has been beautiful for me, and its victims and their families can all go F themselves.

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    • Pierrot

      I will be away tomorrow, there will be no posting from me until the late afternoon.

  • 1subgenius

    Just so you know department:
    A few days ago I promised that I would donate $10 if JT and TC did not quit the cult in 60 days.
    In light of Robotic John’s pronouncements, I have paid off early.
    And, my e-meter is in the shop for a new battery pack. They got quite a kick out of it.
    I’ll do another video when I get it back.

    • i-Betty

      I missed the first video, Sub. Do you have a link?

      • Baby

        I baby girl..I love it when you show up..xox

        • Mymy88

          Hi Smoking Baby. If it is alright with you, and is convenient, I’d like to ask you about something privately. If you are okay with that, I can give you my email or just shoot the question to you on an old post… whatever is easier for ya.

          • Baby

            it’s easier for old post.. fire away doggy

            • Mymy88

              k, it’s posted

        • i-Betty

          ‘Ello! Have you been to bed yet?

          • Baby

            I’m up I’m down.. ha.. I woke up at 3am.. and just stayed up.. You never know..errr I never know if I’m asleep or wake anymore..xo

            • i-Betty

              Aww, poor Baby 🙁 I can’t imagine what it must be like not to have undisturbed sleep.

              Love you lots like Jelly Tots. x

            • Baby

              awww so sweet of you..Actually I’m pretty used to it.. Those around me are me just taking a nap when I need to..

              One of my side effects of my meds is insomnia.. but I can’t take sleeping medication because of my meds..

              Some days I stay up for 2 days and somedays I sleep 15 hrs.. I’m Ok seriously. I can plan ahead when needed ( wink wink)

            • 1subgenius

              I can sympathize, because I have a condition which causes sleep disruption (what they are now calling Willis-Ekbom disease, formerly known as “Restless Legs Syndrome”). Sleep disruption by itself is a very serious condition and is known to be life shortening.

              You never really catch up on lost sleep either. Apart from the agonizing symptoms of Willis-Ekbom , the sleep disruption is also torturous, as I’m sure you are well aware.

            • Baby

              I am sorry you are going through that sub..and it is painful. ( sigh)

              You are right about sleep disruption. I am always walking around in a fog.. My personality to start with coupled with being on Paxil..

              and throw in sleep disruption is the perfect storm for Cray Cray..xo

            • 1subgenius

              Yeah, I really treasure sleep now.

              I underwent sleep studies, which was an ordeal. Try sleeping with about a million wires attached all over your body.

              And one thing that they found that disturbs me to this day is that even when I was “asleep”, I was not getting to the level which is considered restorative sleep. So basically it’s like I haven’t slept in years.

              I’m now thinking of the joke about the old man who went on and on about how his feet hurt, and his wife left him, and his daughter was in trouble, etc. etc. and then he says, “But I can’t complain.”

              And yet one of my mottos (keeping in mind that mottos are for sissies) is “Never complain, never explain.”

            • MereCatWatcher

              The worst night sleep I ever had was in a sleep lab. A new technician used so much glue for the electrodes on my head that it took a week of acetone and hair washing to get it out. What a mess. I did not get any sleep that night.

              I’m sorry that you have had to deal with this stuff. It is tiresome. (Yeah, I said that.)

            • 1subgenius

              Yeah, I don’t see how anyone could sleep.
              Must be a medical billing scam.

      • 1subgenius
        • i-Betty

          You crack me up 😛

        • i-Betty

          Hahahahaha! I’m glad everyone else has moved over to the new blog. I need a fair bit of space to fully appreciate this!

          • 1subgenius

            Yeah, it was pretty funny taking it into the shop. I’m glad that there wasn’t anybody else in there at the time.

            I said “I got something and you probably haven’t seen before. A Scientology E meter!”

            The kid, probably in his late 20s, was quite amused and said, “I’ve gotten many laughs from this.” As far as I could tell he really wasn’t that knowledgeable though.

            I still am surprised at how little the general public seems to know about it all. He was unaware of “Going Clear”. The old man came out and was also vaguely familiar with Scientology, grumbling about how people can fall for anything.

            They seem to think that it was going to be somewhat of a problem to replace the battery pack that was in there and that is actually starting to leak. Whatever.

            I haven’t really been able to get anybody to volunteer to be a subject for a demonstration, but I’m working on it. I really do not know the questions to ask despite a rather extensive search of the Internet. I guess I’ll wing it. People did try it out at the HBO viewing party that I was at.

            As I left the battery shop the guy said that it would take about a week and I said that I would be spiritually adrift until then.

            • i-Betty

              Let’s figure out a way for you to audit me over Skype, or vice-versa!

            • 1subgenius

              Well, it’d have to be vice versa, because of the cans. But that would be funny.

              Let’s not give Scientology any ideas though. This could be a big moneymaker for them.

              Skype auditing.
              If they weren’t stuck in the 1950s they could figure out a way to even hook up the E meter by way of the Internet. Since it’s all bullshit it wouldn’t really matter whether it really worked or not.

        • ObsessedReader

          Well done! I’m looking forward to part two and hope you don’t drift too far in the meantime. You do need a haircut so try to keep it together long enough to use that trim feature! I was glad to see you are just as funny “in person” as you are in print! 😀

  • rayana00

    Tom Cruise

    Katie Sources Say

    He Hasn’t Seen Suri in a Year

    Tom Cruise said he wasn’t able to see his daughter for months because he was shooting “Mission Impossible 5” in London, and he was counting the hours before he came home to little Suri. But we’re told he was off work for 2 weeks after shooting wrapped, yet never saw her.

    Sources connected to Katie Holmes tell TMZ … it’s worse than that. They say Tom has not seen the 8-year-old in almost a year. Tom’s rep previously denied that and said the actor has seen his daughter plenty, but on the down low to shield her from cameras.

    But our Katie sources say that’s not true … that he’s just not been a part of her life.

    There’s been speculation Tom is distancing himself from Katie and Suri because they’ve been declared SPs in Scientology, but we’ve checked with the Church and we’re told that is simply not true.

    Tom is now back to business … he just began a 90 day shoot in Atlanta.

    Read more: http://www.tmz.com/2015/04/07/tom-cruise-hasnt-seen-suri-year-mission-impossible-5-katie-holmes/#ixzz3WcDmhnbY

    TOM CRUISE IS A PIECE OF SHIT

    • Scream Nevermore

      If I was Katie, I’d be cool with this. It would save me the price of a court case to keep him away from
      my daughter.

    • D.Y.G.

      Wealthy celebrity couldn’t fly his daughter to London for a visit?

    • anoni81b4u

      Just to be fair. Tom Cruise is not the worst parent in the world.
      I hate when things are exaggerated.

      • Baby

        I’m not a Tom Cruise fan..so I got nothin but Shade for him anon

      • rayana00

        he choose scientology over suri for good so no things are not exaggerated
        Please go Watch GOING CLEAR

  • Eivol Ekdal
    • Baby

      Can you imagine him sitting down with Gibney with the information and going.. “WTF? WAIT? WATTTT?”

    • FDA should regulate this to prevent mass pneumonia.

  • MrsLurksALot

    Good morning, bunkeroos. Just a quick comment, while there are a thousand people here yet…..is it just me, or has there been an inordinate amount of sock like commenters here lately? I sure miss Captain Howdy and Espi. I was going to call one out last night, but I am not big on confronting…..but, I wondered if anyone else was thinking the same? Not mentioning names, but the two I mainly suspected just showed up a couple of weeks ago.

    • Worry not.

      • MrsLurksALot

        I hear ya, but it is kinda frustrating when threads are being derailed and there are confrontational remarks. I’ve tried collapse tech, but you can’t miss them all.

        • Mark Foster

          Real life is messy. I can tell you, it(the confrontational stuff here) beats the fuck out of the robotic, platitude-ridden, loaded-language-laden ¨discussions¨ that passed for staff meetings in the church.

          • MrsLurksALot

            Thanks, all, for helping me with perspective this morning!

    • noseinabk

      We have an infestation that wont accomplish anything in the long run. Best part is, Tony’s article will still be up there no matter what.

  • Mark Foster

    Travolta called Going Clear a product of “people who were disgruntled with their experiences” with Scientology, while the church “has been nothing but brilliant for me.”

    Forced abortions, assault, human-trafficking, fraud, harassment…and a host of other evils…produce…PEOPLE WHO WERE DISGRUNTLED WITH THEIR EXPERIENCES…
    Wow. What the fucking fuck????

    • MrsLurksALot

      He is disconnected from reality. It is quite sad and pathetic.

      • Mark Foster

        Dude says that about the movie-but he hasn´t seen it. Even when I was deeeeeeeply imbibing the kool-aid, I din´t comment on shit I didn´t actually look at/read…and as the cognitive dissonance grew, I started to admit that I was AFRAID to look at stuff that the church said was ¨entheta¨…and recognized that that behavior contradicted Lampoon Humper´s advice to LOOK at and CONFRONT things…and the rest, as they say, is history…

        • Mymy88

          It just goes to show you the mindfuck that is going on in that house of horrors called a “church”. Man, if that’s a church, I’m Mary Poppins and can fly when I hold on tight to my umbrella.

    • Mymy88

      Oh boy, he is going to be eating some humble pie if he ever is able to accept the truth. And eating humble pie will be the least of his problems.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    I just finished watching Going Clear. I couldn’t watch it last week as I had an irregular slow heart beat and every time I got excited/upset I started to pass out.
    I thought Going clear was well made and riveting from start to finish, and even though it didn’t have tons of new info for those of us professional anti scientologists and big pharma cheque cashers, it was watchable by the average person and might cause them to dig deeper and do something about the religious tax exemption.

    The more people that open their eyes and speak out the better and it slows the flow of further victims to this shitty and evil cult.
    The parts with LRH and his dental short comings made me queasy, god the huge closeups were revolting.
    I particularly liked seeing Davey and his penguin walk, boy did I laugh. It must be the extra large clown shoes he wears that make him waddle.

    • Damm, lady! Take care of your heart! More oxygen?

      • TheMirrorThetan

        My thyroid medication has stopped working. So Iam having attacks of severe hypothyroidism on and off and it makes your heartbeat slow and irregular.
        Its OK for now but it will comeback. Just waiting for blood results from the Doc.

        • I get that too on occasion, but not as bad. You are too young for that shit.
          Try low sodium diet may be?

          • TheMirrorThetan

            I already have a low sodium diet.
            Probably just need to boost my dose of thyroid medication and have more bloodtests and keep a better eye on it until it stabilises again.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              I wish You good health :):):)

            • TheMirrorThetan

              Thank you. Ill be ok. I get sick quick but I also heal quickly too.

            • Do that, please. <3

            • FromPolandWithLove

              Dodo there is a lot of new commenters here. Some of them post with patterns , which are quite suspicious : eg Tom Yozwiak. Please tell me that they will be gone someday…

            • Let Tony to take care of that. But thanks for the heads up. I will pay closer attention.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              I don’t want to make any comments regarding my concerns in public way ( I write to You under yesterday article. And with Your permission I would like to delete these comments when we finish our conversation) I’m trying to stick to the rules: no participating in quarrels, no discussions with trolls and upvotes rather for those I know for longer time. That ‘s it. This community survived worse than few trolls, so I belive everything will be Ok this time too. Forgive me for whining…

            • It’s all good.

    • Mymy88

      I also laughed when I saw Miss Cabbage waddle. That SNL parody started off with a BANG right there! lololol. Clown shoes – LOL

  • Judith Sylvester

    Hilarious take down of the fact that Cruise hasn’t seen his daughter in one year over at Dlisted, explaining that he has a lot on his shoulders, including the legs of David Miscavige..

    • Mymy88

      Judith! U so bad!!!! LOL

      • Judith Sylvester

        Evil grin.

        • Mymy88

          I think me and you will be getting along just fine lol.

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    Did you see the horrendous video of the South Carolina police officer shooting the unarmed black man in the back as he ran away? It’s created understandable outrage across the country. When asked about it, Travolta said that the outrage is just a product of “people who are disgruntled with their experiences” while the police that he’s interacted with have been “nothing but brilliant towards me.”

  • Jeanette Smith

    I think that I should be allowed to file a law suit against the IRS for discrimination I am paying off 10k to them and I am middle class working mom! I probably do not even owe the damn money but I cannot afford an attorney yet this cult pays no taxes how in the hell is that?

    • eucliditis

      I would join and suggest class action status

  • Dave Reams

    John Travolta cites Scientology as being helpful in overcoming his son’s death. This seems to be one of Scientology’s particular strengths – witness how quickly Scientology overcame Lisa’s death!

  • Verve

    I’ve always liked Mike Rowe; he is just a great down-to-earth person. His post puts it out of the ballpark. And let Little Boots try slapping/punching Mike- Sir Rowe would chew him, and his henchmen, to pieces and then eat a slice of apple pie. ‘Cause that’s how he rolls.

  • Gabreya Bradley

    I reiterate, Scientology needs their tax free status revoked by the IRS.

  • Bob Gravlin

    Mike thanks for getting involved. History may show that dealing with Scientology is the biggest stinking mess you help to clean up!

  • Ruby Marlowe

    $cientology in Berlin? Didn’t Germany outlaw it?

  • I’ll join any religion started by Mike Rowe. He’s on my celebrity “hit it” list. Meow.

  • Robert

    Mike Rowe you are my new hero! ))) Good man!
    I wonder if Spanky still stays in touch with John Travolta? I was a big fan of his until I watched Going Clear.
    Ron says “man is asleep, he has to be woken up”! well that is so true. I finally woke up after 32 years and it feels! Great to leave the “church.” Unfortunate that others won’t wake up like JT or TC .