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Scientology strikes back at Leah Remini as publicity for her upcoming series explodes

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On Monday, we told you that Leah Remini had been stalked while filming her upcoming A&E series on Scientology, which premieres on November 29. She’d also shared with us that her production company had received a lot of aggressive letters from the church, just as other recent shows and documentaries about Scientology have experienced.

Then, Tuesday night, Leah’s team released the show’s first trailer, and the media response has been huge. “Leah Remini’s new series alleges sexual & physical abuse in Scientology,” read one headline. “Leah Remini reveals explosive abuse allegations against Scientology,” read another.

But Scientology isn’t taking things lying down. In a completely characteristic move, the church is paying for ads on Google that pop up when you search on Leah’s name…

 
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Clicking on the link takes you to Scientology’s news website, where it has posted a statement about Remini. It’s not unusual for Scientology to throw shade like this at its former members. But taken as a whole, this is a pretty remarkable broadside, and we figured it could do with a little annotation.

 

Leah Remini has become what she once declared she never wanted to be known as: “this bitter ex-Scientologist.” As USA Today wrote, Ms. Remini is “as famous for being an ex-Scientologist as she is as an actress.” She needs to move on with her life instead of pathetically exploiting her former religion, her former friends and other celebrities for money and attention to appear relevant again.

Why this doesn’t work: The reaction to the trailer shows that the public loves the idea of Leah exposing her former “religion” for the extortionist and abusive high-control group that it really is. And we doubt that many members of the public will care much if she manages to make a few bucks doing it.

Sadly, bitterness and anger are common threads through Ms. Remini’s life. Ms. Remini is showing herself to be a spoiled entitled diva who still obsessively complains about such petty matters as her seating placement, limo ride, five-star hotel accommodations and the paparazzi’s failure to recognize her nearly a decade ago. She also inserts herself uninvited into the family matters of others. Rather than take responsibility for self-inflicted problems, she is quick to blame others. When her firing from The Talk erupted into a public embarrassment for her in 2012, we tried to help pick her up off the floor. But she treated everyone around her in a degrading, bullying manner. Her behavior was intolerable.

Why this doesn’t work: Hey, Scientology, you’re the ones building “celebrity centers” so you can attract entitled narcissists who make their livings by putting on spectacles for the camera, and then you tell them the key to their success is to remember how they were traumatized on other planets billions of years ago. And now you say Leah’s behavior was intolerable? Come on.

Leah Remini knows the truth she conveniently rewrites in her revisionist history. The real story is that she desperately tried to remain a Scientologist in 2013, knowing full well she was on the verge of being expelled for refusing to abide by the high level of ethics and decency Scientologists are expected to maintain. Her repeated ethical lapses and callous treatment of others led to an ecclesiastical review which resulted in her being expelled. She now regurgitates the tired myths the Church has repeatedly debunked, circulated by the same tiny clique of expelled former staffers bitter at having lost the positions they enjoyed before their malfeasance and unethical conduct were uncovered. Ms. Remini is now joined at the hip with this collection of deadbeats, admitted liars, self-admitted perjurers, wife beaters and worse.

Why this doesn’t work: One of the things that made Leah’s book so fun to read were the gritty details she provided. Her disaffection began, for example, at the 2006 wedding of Tom Cruise and Katie Holmes, when Leah dared to ask why Tom’s best man, Scientology leader David Miscavige, hadn’t brought his wife Shelly. (She hasn’t been seen at a Scientology event in more than 11 years now, and we know where Miscavige banished her.) There were plenty of other specific, juicy details from that event that spice up Leah’s book, and make the scene come alive. Scientology, you just can’t compete with a lot of vague accusations about “an ecclesiastical review” or “ethical lapses” that all sounds completely bogus as well as being completely unconvincing.

Ms. Remini also continues her obnoxious efforts to harass the leader of the Church of Scientology and his wife, with whom Ms. Remini has been obsessed and has stalked for years. This culminated in a scandalous report filed in 2013 with the Los Angeles Police Department that her book shows was a fraud from the outset. It was solely intended to get publicity and harass the leader of the religion and his wife, who had refused contact with Ms. Remini because of her disgraceful behavior that was both abusive and unethical. Ms. Remini also outrageously touts that the LAPD failed to do its job when it investigated her phony report and within hours unambiguously declared it “unfounded,” causing her stunt to blow up in her face. Anyone knowingly making a false report to law enforcement is a bald-faced liar who should be held accountable for diverting police from protecting the public.

Why this doesn’t work: If you aren’t going to produce Shelly, it simply doesn’t work to bellyache that someone, namely Leah, tried to find out where you’re keeping her. And also, you are wrong on the facts. It’s true that on Thursday, August 8, 2013 at 7 in the morning we broke the news that Leah had filed a missing-person report about Shelly Miscavige with the LAPD. And it’s also true that later that same day, news organizations reported that the LAPD had closed the case as unfounded. That produced the erroneous notion that Leah’s report had been closed the same day she filed it, and that it was somehow frivolous. In fact, although we first broke the news of the missing-person report Thursday morning, Leah had actually filed it with the LAPD that Monday. We only found out about it Wednesday night, and that’s why we reported it Thursday morning. And in those several days, the LAPD had time to meet with Shelly and confirm that she was alive and not missing. For the past eleven years, except for a few days when she was let out to attend her father’s funeral in the summer of 2007, Shelly has been living and working at Scientology’s super secret “CST” compound near Lake Arrowhead, California. We talked to Lt. Andre Dawson of the LAPD, whose detectives had met with Shelly. He wouldn’t confirm where that meeting took place, and when we asked him if his detectives had spoken to Shelly in the presence of other church officials, he said, “That’s classified.” Since then, Dawson has become a regular figure at Scientology events. But here’s the most important thing. You can complain that Leah filed that report, Scientology, but in the three years since then, you still haven’t produced Shelly. And the longer that goes on, the better Leah’s attempt to find her looks.

Scientology is the only major religion to be founded in the 20th century and emerge as a major religion in the 21st century. The Church has grown more in the past decade than in its first 50 years combined under the ecclesiastical leadership of Mr. Miscavige, a visionary parishioners and Church staff hold in the highest regard for carrying out the legacy of the Scientology Founder through the renaissance the religion is now experiencing. Mr. Miscavige works tirelessly for the parishioners and their benefit and to aid millions through support and participation in global humanitarian initiatives and social betterment programs. The real story of the Church of Scientology, what it does, its beliefs and practices, is available at www.scientology.org.

Why this doesn’t work: Oh please. Nobody’s buying that.

Meanwhile, besides this written attack on Leah, the church has also uploaded 20 videos of Leah from their archives. These are short clips of Leah being interviewed at Scientology events, usually the annual Celebrity Centre gala which is held every August in Hollywood. Here’s an adorable Leah Remini in 1997, for example…

 
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And her quote? “I love being involved with it, because then I, you know, I feel like I’m a good person.”

Devastating.

Here’s how she looked in 2001…

 
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What did they catch her saying this time? “I think it’s important for an artist to have some outlet other than your mom who is like ‘Ah, just shut up and go on another audition.’ You know, you need some other help and it’s offered me that help.”

All these quotes are doing is emphasizing what a gem Scientology drove away.

And here she is in 2006…

 
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What do they have on her this time? “Because I am Scientologist I know what we do for the community, but when we have political leaders coming and mayors of other cities coming and um… People in law enforcement coming and praising what we do and how we are helping the community, it just, it warms my heart to hear these stories and I hope other people share in that. I wish this would air everywhere you know? I wish this would air on network television.”

Well, seven years later, Leah gets her wish. Network television — namely the A&E network — will be showing what’s really going on in Scientology.

We think you’re going to find it illuminating.

 
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Chris Shelton on ‘Scientology’

Says Chris: “This week, it’s religious apologist Frank K. Flinn who tries in the worst possible way to make Scientology look like a modern form of Buddhism, with technology. His arguments are flawed from the very beginning and I had a good time taking this one apart.”

 

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on November 3, 2016 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists
GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: Shelly Miscavige, ten years gone | The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | Why Scientology digs bomb-proof vaults in the desert | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | Scientology boasts about assistance from Google | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

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Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • Mrs. V.

    Also, whenever my Dad says “True Story” everyone knows he’s about to tell a joke or an anecdote that is almost certainly a fabrication. I feel the same way when I read/hear scientology say “The real story is” except that it’s not funny, even if it’s laughable.

    • OT: have you checked out the bbq truck at Woodward Hts and Gainsborough?
      http://iloverebbq.com/
      Its great!
      (Formerly 1sub)

      • Mrs. V.

        Yes – I love it! Walking distance and everything :). Their mac and cheese is awesome.

        • I hit it about once a week since I found it.
          Just happened by it one day. Bam!

  • rom661

    Scientology is a “major” religion….. someone has an MU on “major”. Perhaps they meant contemptible. Perhaps despicable.

    • Sherbet

      Well, Major Religion is a title of rank, you know, like Captain Miscavige, General Fraud, Private Slush Fund.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Genius.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Don’t forget Corporal Punishment and Sarge Pfauth…OH, skip that last one there!

        • Sherbet

          By all means, add the Corporal and scratch Sarge.

    • Too Much

      Hey come on now, be fair. Some 20,000 surviving customers world wide *is* major for a shitting dwarf with no marketable skills, a violent psyco criminal brain, and a face that can stop clocks.

      • FredEX2

        I don’t think it’s 20,000 anymore. Maybe half of that. Worldwide.

    • Mrs. V.

      I’m kind of surprised they used “major”. Everything is “most epic ever” with them.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Look, if you care at all about your Eternity, you need to stop all this suppressive J&Ding RIGHT NOW and turn yourself over to ethics, where you’ll have a chance to redeem yourself by ponying up tens of thousands of dollars for some obviously long overdue sec checking and be given an opportunity to make amends for your crimes by donating to the IAS…you may or may not receive a recycled bowling trophy for your donation, we’ll let you know about that!

  • Joe

    Did anyone else get Star Wars feels from the past two days of Tony’s posts?

    Episode IV: Leah Remini’s Show – A New Hope
    Episode V: Scientology Strikes Back
    Episode VI: Return of the SPs?

    • I guess we should be bracing ourselves for the dreadful inevitability of Episode I: The Five Foot Menace.

      • Susan black

        Wait a minute bub. That’s five foot and ONE INCH!

      • Rita G

        Release date is 04/13/??.

        • Missionary Kid

          That took me a while, but I finally caught it. Good one.

        • stillgrace2

          PSA: At 5’3″, Leah (a petite woman) is taller than David Miscavige.

        • Juicer77

          LOL

  • stillgrace2

    Please remember to click the red heart for this story! Thank you!

  • Too Much

    Did Lt. Andre Dawson actually see the crime boss’ wife? Since he’s a Scientology criminal himself it seems unlikely. She’s dead.

    • TonyOrtega

      Two of his detectives did. And no, she’s not.

      If she dies at CST HQ, they won’t be able to keep it secret for very long.

      • sizzle8

        Do you know if the actual report is subject to FOI rules?

        • Juicer77

          It will come back covered in redacted black boxes. But worth a try.

  • Too Much

    I am sooooo looking forward to the violently insane ringleader’s frothing k00k sp3w in “Freedom Magazine” about Leah. Oh man, freaken’ epic to come, no doubt. Caek!

  • Andrew Robertson

    I wonder if Captain Miscavige will sue Mr Trump for stealing his invention of “Lock Her Up” as a valuable intellectual concept.

    If one was a male spider or praying mantis this would be an entirely sensible thing to do as females of the species can be alarmingly threatening, but human males are not members of the insect world so it seems a rather extravagant idea!

    Andrew

  • Too Much

    Look at Leah’s Twitter account, she’s out there having Halloween parties with family and friends, and where are the few remaining Scientology customers? Being held against their will by a violent, psychotic dwarf, unable to enjoy life as they stupidly hand their money and their life over to the clown.

  • stillgrace2

    I saw the evil ad when I googled “Leah Remini” earlier this morning. I just tried it in three separate, new windows and the ad seems to have disappeared.

    ETA: However, plenty of entheta is still showing up below where the ad used to be. Heh, heh.
    Can anyone else still see the ad when you google Leah Remini?

  • You got this part a bit wrong and I wish the actuality of it were touted more often:
    Why this doesn’t work: Hey, Scientology, you’re the ones building “celebrity centers” so you can attract entitled narcissists who make their livings by putting on spectacles for the camera, and then you tell them the key to their success is to remember how they were traumatized on other planets billions of years ago.
    *
    The actuality: $cientology policy for Celebrity Centre that was in place when I was there was (and probably still is) was about going after people on the way up or on the way down in their career. In short, people who are EMOTIONALLY VULNERABLE and self-questioning. Which is another reason the creepy Personality Test attempts to isolate a person’s worst fear (“It could get worse.”) For example, Larry Anderson came into $cientology after Spanky Taylor, her husband Norman, Chick Corea, Gayle Moran, and I met him at a huge party Paul McCartney and Wings gave in Bel Air. Larry at the time was performing in the lead in the road show of a Broadway hit called (I believe) The Magic Show (he’s an accomplished magician). Other performers included John Belushi, Chuck Norris, and the Broadway cast of “The Wiz.” So Larry was kind of riding high, but never an “entitled narcissist.” He was, however, emotionally vulnerable and told me he got involved (in 1976) in $cientology so he could network in Hollywood – in the 80s I found this to be a very common reason why people got involved. Narcissism? Maybe, but you had people like Al Jarreau, probably the most talented singer I ever saw, who was very self-effacing, had his own vulnerabilities, and his $cientologist girlfriend Susan Player got him involved.

    • kemist

      Most exes don’t strike me as narcissists – might have adopted certain traits as they unconsciously attempted to become Hubbard clones while inside, but it’s not their true personality.

      All cults target emotionally vulnerable people, and emotional vulnerability, for most people, is something they experience at certain points in their lives and not in others.

      For a narcissist, though, emotional vulnerability is something they’ll live with all their lives. At their core, they hate and doubt themselves. The big ego is a kind of shield between that unstable core and the outside. That’s why you’ll find true narcissists in there too, and I think they’re the ones who are the most unlikely to leave.

      When it collapses, they’ll collapse with it. Or possibly find another cult.

      • The kind of narcissim being discussed is something I observed in two groups in $cientology. The first were execs in the Sea Org – particularly if they worked around Hubbard. The Commodedoor’s Messengers, for example, were trained to “perfectly duplicatle” Elwrong. So he would scream at someone via a Messenger. Flag missionaires and Messengers had this real smug attitude. I remember Greg Wilhere (who’d been a college quarterback) coming into the letter registrar section at Celebrity Centre and stepping up to me and screaaming in my face about “down stats” – which was bullshit. I laughed in his face and pointed to the other guy, who screwed around and didn’t do much, because he spent a lot of inherited money on auditing though a staff member, and they left him alone. The other group of narcissists were people who had done the OT levels and thought they were sooper dooper. For example, Mickey Kananack, a lawyer, who was an OT7 and a volunteer Chaplain who did a court with me (when I was no longer staff and a public person at CC) and made an insane decision for the other person and told me I would understand the reason once I’d done OT3. The reality was, I always called people out on their bullshit (I’m sure you’re shocked) and did that with Kananack during the court, and it pissed him off, so he got on his narcissism high horse. I knew some celebrities around CC who were the type of narcissist described in the article above, who were just basically assholes, like actor Michael Lembeck, and bassist Billy Sheehan, but there were many more who weren’t (like Stanley Clarke, best bassist I ever saw and a chill guy).

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    In its amazingly creepy attack on Leah Remini, Scientology comes across as a bitter ex-spouse who insists that the former husband/wife is lying about the physical and psychological abuse during the marriage because he/she looked so happy in the wedding photos. Miscavige should stop acting like a 13 year old mean girl and grow up. Real men do not post revenge videos to the internet, nor do they stalk women, beat up subordinates, or destroy families. Only sociopathic infantile men do that.

    • Missionary Kid

      Yeah, and Leah grabbed him by the pussy.

      • Mymy88

        “Yeah, and Leah grabbed him by the pussy.”

        …and swung him around the room!

      • daisy

        Don*t be silly without balls he has no penis.

    • Sejanus

      no, but they can run for President.
      BAZINGA!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Exactly! And by reacting so intensely even before the first episode airs, it just draws more attention and interest to the series, which serves to create more buzz and keep the story bouncing around the cyber universe long after it would have died away on its own if the cherch would have just said, “no comment”.

      It’s still brave to take $cn on in such a direct and public way, but my bet is that we’re beyond the point where a gullible and uninformed public audience is ever again going to give $cn the benefit of the doubt again or hear their high-pitched whinging as anything but a tacit admission of guilt. Unfortunately for $cn, the infallible Word of Elron continues to demand that they attack and destroy (“never defend”) their perceived enemies who, by now, far outnumber its dwindling ranks of True Believers.

      And since lil davey the savage brought the subject up himself, it sure would be great if some enterprising investigative journalists dug into some of the incredibly inflated numbers that the cherch is tossing about there. For example, exactly how many active $cilons actually exist out there? Has that number increased at all in this last decade of supposed record expansion? Has the cherch donated any money at all to any of the traditional charitable organizations that are out there or is it just propping up failing $cn front groups, like Narconon? Of all the monies donated by its members in the last year, what percentage of the total has been used to help its own less well off members?

      Getting $cn to go on record to answer any sort of reasonable questions like those would be like pulling teeth of an unrestrained and unanesthetized hyena. And Xenu help you if you were to ask to see their actual financial records in order to determine exactly how this killer cult allocates the money that’s been donated to it!

  • Sejanus

    Leah Remini…on A&E

    $cientology…still waiting on releasing something, hell…ANYTHING from SMP to “the world!”

    Name another “religion” that attacks critics and former members with such sickeningly childish hate and imbecilic antics….



    yeah, thought so.

    • pluvo

      Well, there are religions and cults which put their critics on a death list, killed them, burned them, …

      Although more hate then childishness.

  • Mymy88

    Two years ago, an exchange between me and my elderly mom:

    Me: OMG! Mom! I’ve been reading about Scientology. You will never believe how awful they are. They did this and that and government infiltration and that and this and the IRS.. and blah blah and OMG!

    My Mom: How come I’ve never heard of that? (the infiltration). I don’t believe it. (About the IRS thing) – you can’t just threaten the IRS into doing something they don’t want to do.

    Two years later, (after driving her nuts with my insisting she listen to me about scientology) an exchange between me and my elderly mom:

    Me: OMG mom! Come here. Sit down right here in my chair. I’ve got the laptop all set up, the volume turned up just right, the screen made bright enough, and the video ready for you to watch this trailer for Leah Remini’s new show about Scientology. I only need to click play.

    My Mom: (watches the video) Oh! this looks good (eyes wide). I hope she takes out that SOB Miscavige with that show. I’d love to see him in jail.

    Hmm, buffing and blowing on my fingernails… I think I might have done a decent job over the last 2 years in educating my mom about scientology abuses (and trust me, it wasn’t easy) but I need to spend more time on what a slimy slippery snake Miscavige is.

    • Missionary Kid

      Well done. You deserve kudos.

      • Mymy88

        So do you my friend!

  • Tony Ortega
    • Mymy88

      I could swear I just heard some more choking from over there somewhere.

      • Juicer77

        Hope it’s not some poor Sea Ogre.

        • Mymy88

          Nah, it sounded more like an ex Sea Ogre.

    • Missionary Kid

      Kudos, Tony. You deserve the acknowledgement.

      Interesting paragraph in the piece, “The former AmSouth bank building, originally constructed in 1965, sat empty and vacant for years before Agami proposed his SkyView project around 2012. Before that, the building was one component of Mexican developer and fellow Scientologist Elias Jafif’s $200 million plan to revitalize downtown that never took off.” So much for $cientology’s successes.

      • ze moo

        That Trump University degree didn’t pay off, did it?

        • Missionary Kid

          Trump U.= WISE=Failing businesses or investors losing money.

    • Juicer77

      Where credit is due… 🙂 Hey, did you see my question the other day re: Ms. Grey’s interview about quitting her Scientology job? I wondered if she had heard anything in the media/mainstream about $ci before her boyfriend introduced her to it, and if so had it weighed at all in her decision to start participating?

    • flyonthewall
    • They only used “revitalize” three times in that article, but it seemed like more when I was reading it.

      Look matey, this downtown wouldn’t go voom if I put four thousand volts through it.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        As $cn continues to contract and feel itself increasingly under attack from all quarters, look for it to wall off much of downtown Clearwater and the perimeter around Big Blue, where bubble dwellers can feel as safe from the outside world as they would in any gated retirement community in the country.

        But since it will be as difficult to get out as it is to get in, the question will naturally arise: Are these walled and gated $cilon communities places of spiritual retreat or low-security prisons? $cn is not so easily categorized; it has the ability to be both a floor wax and a dessert topping – a place of refuge for wealthy $cilon whales to be milked in privacy and luxury, while it’s ultra low-wage support staff work 120 hour weeks and live in impoverished conditions.

        Free Sea Orgy labor and “pick of the litter” matchmaking services have long been a $cn perq for certain celeb cherch members, so why wouldn’t other rich and famous parishioners want to enjoy what they’ve paid for over and over again? These little “theta oases” will be just another part of a natural evolutionary trend that’s already been occurring for awhile now. So, donate now and help your cherch turn itself into the Gulag Spa of the future…I can hardly wait!

    • it’s a shame they don’t include a link :-/

    • Eivol Ekdal

      A back slappin’ “Well Done” Scoop!

      • LongtimeLurker

        “We need an interview with Spider-Man. Get me Scoop Ortega!”

    • ze moo
  • Missionary Kid

    Either $cientology has learned, or Leah is just too big to fight, but when I Googled Leah Remini and Leah Remini A&E, there was no paid ad for a $cientology site.

    $cientology would be fucked both if they did and if they didn’t send people to their smear site.

    • Mymy88

      Wait… they actually learned something from their own mistakes? Nah, they just thought of something “they think” will work better and who cares what it is because it won’t.

    • kemist

      Or perhaps the Googles suddenly changed their minds providing them visibility for a smear campaign ?

      • Missionary Kid

        I doubt it. They’ll take just about anyone’s money. Besides, the website seems to just fall out of the category of defamation, because she’s a celebrity.

      • stillgrace2

        I think that’s possible … maybe some savvy Google employee with a bit of power saying “enough already”. Probably a Leah fan.

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

      Schröderingers’ Foobullet?

      • Missionary Kid

        I love it.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Sounds like the perfect dilemma for them to enjoy more often! Damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

      Even from here I can make out the high-pitched screams of a tiny tin pot tyrant losing his shit. There will be hell to pay for sure and this level of major fook up has got to be a whole bunch of people’s fault…flee while you can, Int Base minions, a tsunamai of entheta is already rolling your way and it all has to be someone else’s fault instead of Dear Leader’s!

    • stillgrace2

      I’m glad you noticed that, too. Safari, Chrome, and Firefox- Google and Bing. No Ad.
      And it was there earlier today.

      • Missionary Kid

        For once, maybe they’ve learned their lesson?

        • stillgrace2

          I don’t think anyone from sciloonland called google and asked them to take the ad down. I think google may have removed it. ETA: maybe DM stiffed them on the ad payment.

    • ze moo

      $cienos probably burned through all that ‘free’ stuff Google gave them. Now they have to pay up to slander. Look for a new fund raising theme shortly. Something like ‘Theta for the Thetanless’ or something stupid.

      • Missionary Kid

        I think that they burned through that money long ago, but you definitely could be right,

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology: turds of a feather

    $cientology: as fraudulent as Trump U.
    And twice as vindictive

    She fixed the Org Board
    For this she was gored
    Now, DM gathers MEST
    Where’s Shelly? You jest-
    Another Macallan is poured

    $cientology Celebrity Center: star bucks

    John Travolta: “Name me another religion that’s based on joy.”
    Ya got me there, Jorm.
    Grammy-considered is slim pickings:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d1e86b20afa9716b47a9c9f07631210857e71b58b3bb2caef3543c8309ebeed7.jpg

    • Mymy88

      A little freaky spider, came down beside her and frightened us all away.

    • Juicer77

      Was that this year’s atrocity? I mean, IAS gown? I’m kinda digging the headgear, though.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Wow, “fashion atrocity on the red carpet…send eye bleach and a MIB crew with those ‘instant forgetter’ flashers, NOW!!!”

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

      I believe in recycling, but this is a bit much.

      • Mymy88

        “I believe in recycling, but this is a bit much.”

        Oh, like tires? That girl has something kinky going on with the transportation construction industry.

    • Observer

      Lookatmelookatmelookatmelookatmeeeeeee!

      • stillgrace2

        I was thinking the same thing. You captured the sentiment!

      • April

        She does have a nice body, but no nicer body and she’s no prettier than many thousands of other women in Hollywood. She needs something to differentiate herself, for example, some actual talent.

    • daisy

      Joy*s version of the little black dress.

    • JaxNGold

      Oh good lord. What is that monstrosity supposed to be, exactly? I’m all about staying fit. But putting this ridiculous thing on to show off her body is just…embarrassing.

      • daisy

        IT is her outside exo-skeleton . I belive it is reptilian.

        • JaxNGold

          lol

      • LongtimeLurker

        How dare you insult the amazing Joy Villa.

        How very dare you!

  • sizzle8

    I love the Scientology reaction.
    No better way to garner more interest in the upcoming show!

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Juicer77

      Everyone in Chicago today. LOL

    • Rasha

      Does that count as confession to murder? I’m asking… for a friend… who’s planning a fun weekend… just want to know. Ignorance of the law is no defense, and all…

    • Newiga

      Mamaaaaaaaaaaa!!! Uuu-u-uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh!

      • Eivol Ekdal

        How is your Mum and did she like those chocolates?

        • Newiga

          She’s doing well! Thanks for asking. ^_^ She (and I) loved the chocolates.

  • Jimmy3

    Those ecclesiastical reviews are actually very thorough. They don’t conclude until all the shattered liquor bottle glass has been swept up.

  • Glen

    “Fight for your family. Fight for your daughters, your sons….Let’s get to the abuses. Let’s get to the abortions. Wake up.”

    Such powerful words by Leah. Although Laura DeCrescenzo’s case has been delayed for many years, it would be a great thing if the public awareness generated by Leah’s $ci expose led to closer examination and more wide spread coverage of the facts of that case. The heartbreaking, immoral, awful story that is revealed in the transcripts will hopefully be amplified by the A&E show and lead to some long overdue justice.

    • Juicer77

      Theoretically, it shouldn’t affect the judicial process. But I hope it does help support Laura’s history.

      • Glen

        Not the judicial process so much as the details for the general public about how they operate.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          There’s the formal “justice” system and then there’s the informal court of public opinion. $cn has won a few very expensive cases in the former, while losing BIG time in the latter. And that’s only going to get worse for the cherch when Leah’s series airs and this organized crime group’s karma continues to come back to bite them on both cheeks.

    • You could build a great Irish pub song on those words.

      • Glen

        I’ll drink to that.

      • ze moo

        All it needs is a pickup truck and you’re golden in Nashville!

        • Just murder good prose and sing through your nose
          And then you’ll sing just like Bob Dylan

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7j9OT-90zeE

        • Glen

          You know when you play a country record backwards you get a job, your pickup truck works and your wife comes back home.

  • We really love to click the heart – 300 by now and there is only 408 comments. what has changed ?

    • Jimmy3

      People have started telling us how much we love to click the heart.

      • stillgrace2

        Spread the word.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Readers who aren’t commenting.

      Yesterday’s had a lot too. It’s the celebrity effect.

  • AntoniaW

    Here in the UK, A&E stands for Accident & Emergency, like your ER. Either way, it’s a good place to be after you’ve been rolled over by $cientology.

    • in scientology A&E are the steps you do when you are an SP

      • LongtimeLurker

        I thought it was ‘A through E’ or ‘A to E’?

        I know you’re an ex and I’m a never-in, please forgive me.

        • nope your right.. A to E

          • LongtimeLurker

            Pretty close, though.

  • Yo, Scientology, I’m really happy for you, I’ma let you finish, but Leah has one of the best videos of all time! One of the best videos of all time!

    • Newiga

      LMAO!!

  • Jgg2012

    “Why this doesn’t work” This is the story of Scientology. No perfect clears; no LRH’s reincarnation showing up; empty orgs; they lied about “no disconnection, and so on.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      “Why this doesn’t work?” Because Scientology!

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I know a friend in the entertainment management business. She claims that all publicity, works. In this case I’d think it would work in Leah’s case. But look what it has done for trump. Scarey people out there. I’m not a TV watcher so I have no idea who she Leah is.

    • LongtimeLurker

      You wouldn’t have liked the sitcom that made her famous, I don’t think.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I heard it was about a hot chick that marries an obese truck driver which must happen all the time, hilarity ensued.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Nailed it.

  • Scientology is the only major religion to be founded in the 20th century and emerge as a major religion in the 21st century.

    well, slather me in cookie stuff and call me Tom, here they are at a cool #300 on a list of major religions… just behind Wicca and (unfortunately) slightly ahead of Neo-Druidism: https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5f7c0eb494aa48dcdaa82c8d523199c1357d3781ca6e99c472f2dd2a0e0d6b5c.png

    eti – they might need to word clear “only” and “major”

    • Succulent Duck – best nym I’ve seen here, LOL.

      • Gus_Cox

        Agreed. I keep saying it in my head. Succulent Duck. Succulent Duck. I’m getting hungry.

    • ze moo

      Can Neo-Druids pray to shrubbery?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Is that “55,000” figure in the fifth column their estimate of $cn’s total membership?

      While $cn does not explicitly enforce a belief in a Supreme Being, Elron is definitely considered to be his only True Prophet. But it would also be accurate to say, just as VoB (Voice of Bart) has, that $cn can make you into your own god (with a little “g” because if she can do it, then others can as well).

      The price of your achieving godhead status at today’s market rate? Approximately $500k, not counting any additional IAS donations that can be squeezed out of you 😉 Cheap in the much larger scheme of things, I’d say. Kinda makes you wonder why there aren’t more little gods wandering about, huh?

      • yes, technically members over 18, and i’ll even give them the benefit of the doubt that it was somewhat accurate in 2005 … the other categories are:

        – Classification/Name of Deity (big surprise that they weren’t willing to publicly commit to the Profit Ron since no one gets to know the truth until their check for OTVIII clears)

        – Definition provided by Scientology’s own website at the time

  • flyonthewall

    I say good riddens instead instead of good riddance. Does anyone have a problem with that?

    • Observer

      I’ll still be here, btw

    • Eivol Ekdal

      I say it too and did not know my error until now, cheers!

      • flyonthewall

        stay the course, we’re winning

    • Jimmy3

      For all intensive purposes, riddens is the same as riddance.

      • flyonthewall

        care for an expresso? I’m having one

        • Jimmy3

          The drink or the bird from Donkey Kong Country? Either would be delicious, please. Thanks

        • Juicer77

          Supposably they’re good for you.

          • Princess Squishy

            You guys my brain is breaking.

            • MarcabExpat

              It’s spelled “braking.”

            • Princess Squishy

              *brain-splosion*
              (My town puts on a pretty good fireworks show. The chamber of commerce featured this photo on their Facebook page. Mostly because I was the only goober that put up any pictures right away. Wifi camera wins.)
              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/d4bc9e15e99fcfcb5e4df5fbf1d597dd19017b0e844ee9b884d58e71702bb138.jpg

            • MarcabExpat

              How boo-ti-ful! I never take decent fireworks photos.

            • Princess Squishy

              Thanks. I never had either. Apparently the key is long exposure photography

          • LongtimeLurker

            Please no.

            • Princess Squishy

              I’m with you. This was killing me. See comment one, “My brain is breaking” and comment two, *brain-splosion*

        • LongtimeLurker

          Stop it.

      • Chee Chalker

        Irregardless, they both work

        • LongtimeLurker

          Stop.

          • Chee Chalker

            I will extract revenge on you for your deep seeded animosity. That willI wet my appetite.

            Hopefully the statue of limitations has not expired.

            • LongtimeLurker

              OMG…okay…that was so upsetting it went all the way back around to making me lol.

      • You could of done better.

        • Jimmy3

          Probably. But lately I only care enough to give a minimum list effort.

    • Do you spell it out when you say it?
      Then no one will notice.

    • LongtimeLurker

      I really, really do. Seriously.

      Stop it.

  • It would have been nice to ask Frank K. Flinn if his definition of religion is capable of excluding anything as not a religion. If it can’t, then what he has isn’t a definition at all, and it needs to be scrapped.

    • Words mean only what we say they mean.
      Words are not the thing they represent.
      .What are words worth?
      What are words worth? Words

      Words in papers, words in books
      Words on TV, words for crooks
      Words of comfort, words of peace
      Words to make the fighting cease
      Words to tell you what to do
      Words are working hard for you
      Eat your words but don’t go hungry
      Words have always nearly hung me

      What are words worth?
      What are words worth? Words

      Words of nuance, words of skill
      And words of romance are a thrill
      Words are stupid, words are fun
      Words can put you on the run

      mots pressés, mots sensés,
      mots qui disent la vérité, mots maudits, mots mentis,
      mots qui manquent le fruit d’esprit

      What are words worth?
      What are words worth? – words

      It’s a rap race, with a fast pace
      Concrete words, abstract words
      Crazy words and lying words
      Hazy words and dying words
      Words of faith and tell me straight
      Rare words and swear words
      Good words and bad words

      What are words worth?
      What are words worth? – words

      Words can make you pay and pay
      Four-letter words I cannot say
      Panty, toilet, dirty devil
      Words are trouble, words are subtle
      Words of anger, words of hate
      Words over here, words out there
      In the air and everywhere
      Words of wisdom, words of strife
      Words that write the book I like
      Words won’t find no right solution
      To the planet earth’s pollution
      Say the right word, make a million
      Words are like a certain person
      Who can’t say what they mean
      Don’t mean what they say
      With a rap rap here and a rap rap there
      Here a rap, there a rap
      Everywhere a rap rap

      Rap it up for the common good
      Let us enlist the neighbourhood
      It’s okay, I’ve overstood
      This is a wordy rappinghood, okay, bye.
      (“Wordy Rappinghood” is a song by American new wave band Tom Tom Club. The song was the lead single from the band’s debut studio album, Tom Tom Club. It uses part of a traditional Moroccan children’s song and game, “A Ram Sam Sam”, made popular by the 1971 Rolf Harris recording. In the United States, the song was released as a double A-side with “Genius of Love” and topped the US Billboard Hot Dance Club Play chart.
      Writer(s) Tina Weymouth Chris Frantz Steven Stanley
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wordy_Rappinghood
      )
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Vl1m5FYlAo

  • John McGhee

    Scientology not taking it lying down? The cult is taking it bent over, and unlubricated.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    “… the leader of the Church of Scientology and his wife …. ”
    Mr. Misvavige’s wife? MR. MISCAVIGE’S WIFE??!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LgQXhs9BWt8

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Freight trains on Venus? On VENUS?
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F_wrFI-Kbxk

    • Trains.
      They follow me everywhere.

  • nottrue
    • Juicer77

      Bless her… NOPE

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Hilarious! It seems that the $cn “talking points” script for all dedicated $cilons who are interfacing with anyone in public is to follow TC’s lead and keep it all vague happy talk, and when pressed for specifics, just keep the focus on rainbows and unicorns 😉 Obviously, as this exchanges demonstrates so hilariously, you can take vague way too far!

      For folks who are of normal intelligence or above and not in the grip of some psychotic episode, there has be some critical mass of credible allegations of these kinds of serious crimes and heinous civil rights abuses at which a tipping point is reached and the cognitive dissonance of continuing to support this criminal cult causes many more members to either step back from it or have their head literally explode! What would that number be…a thousand, five thousand?

      Or is it a more complex equation than that? Could that tipping point also be partially determined by the weight of belief given it by those who become informed about the cherch’s history and continuing practices? Will the increasing public scrutiny and negative opinion that the wider public is sure to come to after the series airs increase that cognitive dissonance for those still in the bubble, even though they might never see the series themselves? Is there some sort of (dare I say it) “theta universe” effect at work here, in which it’s not just the sheer numbers of alleged victims, but something else entirely?

      We’ll just have to wait and see. But one thing for sure, Hollywood, that most hyper-sensitive to what’s uncool place of them all, has definitely caught the stench of a dying cult on the breeze and is backing away from it like its members had a highly contagious disease.

      • I think the tipping point will come when the social isolation of Scientologists starts to break down because there aren’t enough of them in the orgs to maintain their consensual illusion.

        It doesn’t help that, at the same time, knowledge of the truth about Scientology might be on the verge of breaking out into popular culture.

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Yea, I agree, they’re is probably some sort of critical threshold for $cn in individual areas beneath which it can’t sustain itself, resulting in sporadic die-offs that will just increase in frequency over time.

          Tipping point phenomena is fascinating because it plays out in all sorts of different situations that involve groups of individuals. I really enjoyed Malcolm Gladwell’s book on the topic and, after reading it, started to see how the concept unfolds in the real world all over the place.

          My intuitive sense there is that $cn has been contracting in total active membership for some time now and whale milking has propped the cult up so that decline is not as noticeable as it would otherwise be. Now, if the whales begin to refuse to swim into the milking racks, $cn would immediately begin going straight down and vertical real soon.

          • It’s always been my belief that the collapse, when it comes will be surprisingly sudden and complete (like a miniature version of the Soviet Union and East Germany).

            As you say, Scientology at the moment is like a tree which looks sturdy but is rotted away inside, and will one day just snap.

    • Sherbet

      It’s as “absolutely fine” as her boyfriend JAW’s assessment of the copious world-wide theta pouring out of SMP.

    • LongtimeLurker

      She is just awful.

      We will never be bff.

  • kemist

    OT : Troll is still spamming me. On the same thread from 2 days ago, lol. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/5b6e305ecd9cbb20999f4a399bb31e0df567d7e4b54ab3ff944c459267b66383.png

    Don’t really know what its point is. *shrug*

    • did you save that grab for 2 days?

      • kemist

        No, it keeps sending me stuff on that thread for some reason. That thread only.

        This is very recent.

        • what “it”?

          • Observer

            The troll

            • how can the troll send him stuff ?!?

            • LongtimeLurker

              He meant replies. It’s still replying to a 2 day old thread.

              It’s doing the same to me.

            • ok – nitty gritty, but i don’t see the 2 days difference in those comments

            • LongtimeLurker

              Oh, sorry dude. Didn’t understand.

              ‘Wog’ has been constantly commenting. So the chopped-off comment above the top one in that image would say 10 hours ago. And the one above that might be like, 13 hours ago.

              And on and on for 48 hours.

              Does that make sense? It’s very early here and I haven’t had coffee yet.

            • Ha ha… Yes that makes sense. The fact checking is becoming a occupational hazard!
              ETA: on my part!

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, I get it. Because i knew the story i didn’t even look at the times in that picture.

              I can totally see how you’d think “hold on a minute!”

            • Disqus does this 🙂 if i log on in Canada my clock get’s mixed up with canadian time, and Disqus says “in six hours” 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              That’s freaky.

            • Observer

              He’s talking about the troll replying to him

          • kemist

            It.. or rather they.

            Writing style is all over the place. If it’s only one person, it’s one very weird person.

            • i have noticed this profile for a long time, it’s sometimes very erratic! he he

            • some month ago “it” freaked totally out because “it” found me on his “following” list, as i had put my flag on there, the first day “it” showed up! Someone from twitter warned me, that “it” was raising hell & high water in the bunker over me! (little me) he he

        • btw: you know this odd thing about DISQUS is when it reads “in a few seconds” he he… it means that your PC clock in forward those seconds!
          ETA: “clock in forward those seconds!” hth do you say that in english? – Your clock is advancing? lol… funny!

    • LongtimeLurker

      I wonder if it’s still going at me from back then.

      I’ll go unblock it now.

      That almost seems like a 3rd writing style to me. Maybe a fill in?

      I love how they’re not checking back over the account’s other writers, isn’t that like the third time you’ve mentioned bring Canadian?

      • kemist

        Yep.

        The reply before that, it said I would “rue the day”, lol. It’s like it (or they) reads the comments superficially, without understanding them.

        • maybe there is 2 Wog discus profiles. The one i am referring too had his privacy setting Off

          • kemist

            Yeah, writing style is completely different.

            I think they’re spoofing the name. Would not be the first time.

            • that can be checked… diving in! he

            • This is the addy from 5 days ago “@disqus_wZqLpYVAof” try match that up with some of those Wog comments you have!

            • kemist

              Same id.

            • yes… i went back to 8 june and found the same id. “it” is not that active and have a very few comment count… but it’s weird how people suddenly start this Trump routine without any formal purpose!

            • kemist

              Would fit a scilon team on one of their petty little messageboard infiltration missions.

              Trying to stir up some little flamewar or whatever it is they do to earn their rice and beans.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Poor sad schmucks.

            • no… not with those comments…You first learn about Scientology when you really have left! They can’t fake this.. a scio would have to report back and show results, even if it is done on a home basis!

        • LongtimeLurker

          I just went in hard on its comment immediately below this thread (if you’re sorting by newest).

          I’m almost afraid to read the reply.

    • MarcabExpat

      Oh geez, I think you’re far better off just blocking them. You won’t miss anything meaningful if you do…

      ETA: but I’m glad you posted your reply first, because I so enjoyed your “Canadian” rebuttal.

    • Juicer77

      Nice reply.
      PS I think you have an admirer. 😉

  • Scientology’s attacks make no sense. You can’t say that someone is attacking you because they are mad that they were expelled for attacking you. They attacked you first, so why did they attack you?

    • Jimmy3

      If only there were one single website that has the definitive answer, and that tells the entire story, then we would know.

      • flyonthewall

        someone should do a blog but be sure to disable the comment section bc they inevitably get overrun with smart mouth idiots etc

        • Jimmy3

          Comments sections are never good for anyone. No one ever wants to read what the public is saying. You need to buy a book. Take a course.

          But whatever you do, don’t comment on it.

      • stillgrace2

        If only there was a god and she had a website.

    • MarcabExpat

      I don’t think I’m far enough up the Bridge to comprehend this logic, but I look forward to that Eureka moment after I have saved up my next $25k. Everything will make sense then!

    • Sid (Phil Jones)

      Scientology Glossary:

      Ded-dedex

      The overt-motivator sequence went backwards. You hit Joe, then he hits you. Although it went this way you had it figured out that he must have hit you first. So you invented something that he did to you to motivate your hitting him. (SH Spec 83, 6612C06)

      In the Scientology world all things are screwy.

      • iampissed

        Thanks Phil

  • stillgrace2

    Leah’s book went on sale one year ago today. Happy Anniversary!

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    https://otviiisgrrr8.files.wordpress.com/2015/01/dm-12.png?w=300&h=284

    “We in the Church of Scientology are very bitter about everything, about how unfair life is, and about how things have never quite gone our way.” And with those words Scientology leader David Miscavige began his
    speech to the tiny handful of bitter deluded Scientologists who still remain in the Church.

    Seated in the front row, thrice-divorced Scientologist Tom Cruise rose to his feet and declared, “I’m bitter too COB! My third wife escaped from our marriage! Why didn’t I learn from your bitter marital experience and lock Kate up like you did with Shelly? Kate would still be here if I had only locked her up!”

    “But she’s gone and I have to confront the fact that this new round of wife auditions isn’t going well! It looks like my next wife will have to come from among the tiny handful of bitter deluded Scientology women who still remain in the Church! And the thought of waking up every morning to a bitter Scientology woman until she too escapes? No wonder I’m so bitter!” Tom Cruise began sobbing bitterly and took his seat.

    Former Church spokesman Tommy Davis jumped to his feet and screamed, “No you listen to me Tom Cruise! I’m real bitter right here right now! I threw away a college education for Scientology and what did it get me?”

    “What did it get me?! I’m real deluded, real bitter, real angry and I can’t do anything about it!”

    Captain Jenny Linson next rose to her feet and shrieked, “I’m bitter that I don’t have a real life, a real job, and that I’ve had to eat in a miserable Sea Org cafeteria every day of my life for the past 35 years!”

    “I’m bitter that this nightmarish hell I call my personality is so aberrated that I haven’t been sessionable since 1982!”

    And so the meeting went on until the tiny handful of bitter deluded Scientologists who still remain in the Church had their say. Then the lights were turned off and everybody retired to the respective places of abode to contemplate their bitterness, failure, and meaninglessness on all dynamics.

    • LongtimeLurker

      I regret that I have but one upvote to give…

    • Harpoona Frittata

      As they all filed bitterly out – heads bowed, teeth gnashing, guts long overdue for a very stiff drink (or twelve) – their diminutive but exquisitely coiffed Dear Leader called after them, “Remember, tomorrow night – same place, same time – the Inch Wives’ Mud Wrestling Event is going to take place and I may even slap a few of you lucky audience members silly too…so don’t miss it!”.

      Finally, at very long last, Keeping $cn Working had come down to this 😉

  • nottrue
    • Supper Powers

      Plus, reruns.

      • MarcabExpat

        And YouTube.

  • Jeb Burton

    Has anyone who is not a deadbeat, liar, perjurer, wife beater and worse ever left the church?

    • Jimmy3

      Yeah, sorta… but she’s in a cave now

    • chukicita

      Not before they were esteemed members, donors and in some cases, executives for years.

    • i think i remember one?

      • Juicer77

        Yeah, he’s on Target 2.

  • There’s a new book about Scientology.

    Chris needs to know that James R Lewis is at it again. A book called “The Handbook of Scientology” will apparently be released on the 17th November for an asking price of £172. https://www.amazon.co.uk/Handbook-Scientology-Handbooks-Contemporary-Religion/dp/9004328718/ref=sr_1_61?ie=UTF8&qid=1478199524&sr=8-61&keywords=scientology

    It’s billed as “a collection of fresh studies of the most persistently controversial of all contemporary New Religions”. So – another iteration of the book “Scientology” which Chris is examining. https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2014/05/08/bad-social-science-james-r-lewis-vs-private-eye/

    “Scientology” was a collection of lots of unusually short papers which were recognised with individual Google entries. If you didn’t know better, you would think it was an attempt to flood searches for “Scientology” with apologist entries. Now there’s another one, apparently published in such small numbers that it costs £172. It will, however, add a lot more Google entries.

    • Supper Powers

      He knows. He said it’s really expensive.

      • Serves me right for not being in a place where my Internet access isn’t fast enough for video.

        • Supper Powers

          I’m glad you said something! It’s good to repeat certain pieces of information.

    • Vault Digger

      Hugh Urban is listed as one of the authors, so hopefully it’s not all unthinking gibberish.

  • daisy

    Has everyone lost their edit button? I got it back with this comment but not on all other posts

    • flyonthewall

      starts with g, ends with remlins

    • Captain MustSavage

      I posted something a moment ago that has entirely disappeared.

      • flyonthewall

        they put them in everything you know? Watches, toasters, computers even your car. Gremlins

        • Rasha

          I drove one once. Liked it, too.

      • i saw that

    • LongtimeLurker

      Is it back? If not, try going into your ‘daisy’ account at top right of the comments.

      Check your notifications (actually it doesn’t matter what you do, just mess around in there for a bit) then come back here and refresh this page in your browser (F5 for Windows iirc.).

      That has worked for me in the past.

      Let me know if it doesn’t.

      • daisy

        Yes that seems to have worked, thank you LL

        • LongtimeLurker

          Certainly, m’lady.

      • she is running a daisy chain

        • LongtimeLurker

          You know that’s rude, right? 8 )

          • daisy

            Thanks LL , i don*t think he meant anything unless there is another definition for daisy chain ( daisys attached by the stems ) i am not aware of, or he went for the joke.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I’m not going to tell you the other definition, because it’s naughty.

              But I don’t think Dice meant anything by it. Dice is okay. ; )

            • daisy

              I have urban dictionary and now i am going to beat his ass. Just kidding i appreciate a dirty joke.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I totally knew you would look that up, and enjoy it.

          • no? it was certainly not the intention!

            • LongtimeLurker

              I know. So does Daisy.

              I was just joking with you.

              It’s other meaning is a sexual term. From pornography.

            • Jebuzz! lol… here i am, thinking of Daisy flowers made by little Girls and small clouds in the Sky! Referring to an electronic circuit for data manipulation AND you are thinking of Porn 🙂 he he

            • LongtimeLurker

              Sorry. : p

              Too much J&Ding.

            • 🙂 np

  • Oh dear me—will Shortarse never learn? As I said back in February 2014, if he really wants to bad-mouth someone as clever and strong as Leah, it’s no earthly use sounding like a bitchy schoolgirl with her knickers in a twist—it’s all or nothing! (Sharpen claws and practice hissing): https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c2aaa54f4e79684be59abe68b79506dfbf16032f39fbaf4844e4d3bd26fc6052.jpg

  • stillgrace2

    Ha Ha. I found the missing sciloon ad dissing Leah that is featured in today’s story.
    At the BOTTOM of page 4 of the search results.
    What gives? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/228c438316322e53c8da8eda585e56df44eaeee8a209bf5ea8c40500af4f7ae8.jpg (F5)

    • LongtimeLurker

      I didn’t even know Google ads could do that.

      I thought they were always at the top?

      Man, you suck at everything Scientology.

    • i use uBlock Origin for Chrome. not only does it block the ads, i’ve heard (read at time of recommendation) that it donates the money the blocked ad would’ve generated to charity. i have no proof of this… so, Scientology!

      • stillgrace2

        Good Deal on the uBlock. No ads is best. I have no google ad blocking. As far as today’s featured ad goes … it’s catch me if you can. Now I can’t find it anywhere (at least up to page 18 of Search Results).

        • don’t go too far, there’s some scary stuff when you get that deep into the pages of search results … trust me O.o

          • stillgrace2

            Google wouldn’t let me proceed beyond page 18. Probably looking out for me.

            • there should be something like that in real life for when someone starts reading a Scientology book … a dude comes over and smacks it out of their hand after page 1

            • stillgrace2

              That idea just turned into a Monty Python skit for me. Funny.

            • UhLasare

              That would be helpful for a lot of situations!

            • LongtimeLurker

              I would happily be that dude. For free.

        • LongtimeLurker

          The third hit for me, just now was;

          “Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Trailer Alleges Church Rape, Violence and Other Abuse – Hollywood Reporter‎.”

          Second was the Wikipedia entry.

          First was www . scientology . org . au/

          No ads anywhere.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      I just googled “Leah Remini” again and that $cn ad is now on the top of page 2 of the search results. earlier this morning it was at the top of page one.

      • stillgrace2

        It moves around- page 2 top, page 14 bottom, etc. Sometimes it’s just not to be found.

  • daisy

    testing

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    I’m shocked. Shocked! That an actress might actually want to get publicity including through doing books and TV shows. And I recall Leah’s comment to an earlier attack by the church saying she was craving publicity – something along the lines of, “Of course I do, I’m an actress, I always want people to pay attention to me!”

    She is such a sweetheart!

  • OT: I bought a barrel-wheel today! F5 and i tell you…this world will come to a full halt, if we keep this up and leave a LEGO world to our kids and the future generations. https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e3460574f735be95ea914f9d23767c71a0e4e715a49a75daf2fe27e5156c73a0.jpg

    It has to look like this apparently. It’s a solid wheel and no inner tube! Goodgreef 🙂

    • LongtimeLurker

      Wait, do you mean for a wheelbarrow?

      • yes 🙂 my neighbours is going to make fun of me so i get PTS

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Has there been any updates on the Hanan & Rizza Islam fraud/tax/larceny case? Weren’t they due in court this week?

  • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

    I had this vision of a future movie about Leah Remini’s life in tbe church , directed by Marty Rathbun starring Tom Cruise as David Miscavige…I dunno why.

  • ReallyMGM

    This strategy worked so well for Scientology when “Going Clear” premiered on HBO they decided to do it again. Way to go!
    Hope Leah and Co. win Emmys for their project, too.

    • April

      If I were Leah I’d be kinda miffed that the CO$ hasn’t taken out an ad in the NY Times yet like they did with Going Clear.

      • ReallyMGM

        Don’t give up yet.

  • Eivol Ekdal

    So you are bored and you Google “Scientology” and this is the first ad that you see…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/f2fc7d2e20bece9410e5b43d3366e0bfaaabf99971789905d3006220dbbc1c31.jpg
    Words cannot express how this hook line is so ridiculous for a ‘Religion’.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Thanks Ortegaland!

    • stillgrace2

      Classic foot bullet.

    • i have seen that ha ha… controversy? click-bait

    • Yeah, who are you gonna believe?
      Me, or your lying eyes?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      In this cynical age, almost everyone has already figured out that any site that needs to tell you that it has the “TRUTH” right here, just for you, is very likely to be a scam at one or more levels. With $cn, you get scammed all of the time for all of your money. Then, even if you’re lucky enough to escape the cult, but still have family members who remain $cilons, it becomes a hostage situation in which it’s, “Your money and your silence or your family”. Some reeeal rat bastards they are!

    • Sherbet

      This is going to sound disloyal coming from an RC like me, but that ad you posted would be the equivalent of finding one that says:

      The Truth About the Catholic Church: You’ve heard about the pedophilia. Now learn about the holy stuff.

    • aegerprimo

      Ugh. I guess Cha-ching $$$ to pay for advertising is working and all the paid clicks from India are working.

  • TOTALLY OT, I posted this elsewhere, but just wanted to share. So sue me.
    Bob Dylan, March, 1962, recording with Chicago blues legend Victoria Spivey.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victoria_Spivey
    I just love the look of love on Victoria’s face.
    Would he have been 18 years old? He looks 14. Math me.
    I’ve not seen much on this aspect of his life.
    How does something like this happen? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/cafe962061e684da70e587b2d6a6e76088d737767ef8895e911cd799c3047203.jpg
    (I first learned about this by buying a couple of Spivey albums at the 1972 Ann Arbor Jazz and Blues Festival.)

    • did he get that nobel prize just yet?

      • he’s a slacker

        • I think he is going to take the fifth and play the Martyr like John Lennon and them go home and write a song about the Nobel people that will become widely popular and quoted on Twitter?

          • Hey, he’s busy. He’s a working musician.
            He’s not dissing Nobel. He just knows (like I speak for him) good/bad opinions are just that.
            Absolutely loved, when they yelled “Judas!” (formerly rabid “fans”) when he went electric, his response.
            “I don’t believe you.”
            (Not that he didn’t believe they did it, but that he didn’t accept their opinion.)

    • Kim O’Brien

      cuz Dylan is a genius who recognized genius and then was genius enough to hang around with a genius . So now we have a photo of two musical geniuses .

      If i would have had a son …i was going to name him Dylan ( after Bob ) Then that stupid show 90210 came out …and fucked it up for everyone .

      • Kim O’Brien

        and no …i was not gonna name a kid Zimmerman

      • But how did a slacker hobo kid finagle his way into a deep Chicago blues studio?

        • Kim O’Brien

          he’s a genius . Duh

          • Well, I’ll ignore the implications of “Duh”, and suggest its not so simple. Nor am I.
            He is (a genius), but at the time he was just a slacker hobo kid.
            The story is how Spivey saw something in him. She was (also) a genius.
            He didn’t exactly fit the mold of Chicago blues studio musicians.
            And that’s all he did. Play backup harmonica and guitar. For blues greats.
            What a moment.

            • i’m certainly no Dylan expert but by that point in ’62 he was already hanging w/ Woody Guthrie and Johnny Cash and signed to Columbia Records

            • Kim O’Brien

              she looks like she wants to adopt him

            • I know, right?
              Adoring look.
              I just love it.
              And Bob, a little sheepish, like he knows he’s in deep and can never go back.

      • you are a genius Kim!

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    “Always Attack, Never Defend.”
    Just who’s calling names on who? The cult fits all accusations it makes itself. The cult is good at dishing the dirt.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xafBWOxqssg

    • LongtimeLurker

      Projection. It’s a hell of a drug.

    • April

      <3 Ella!

  • Sars Goodwin

    Leah didn’t “complain about the paparazzis’ inability to recognize her”. I have a feeling that’s some kind of allusion to the humor in her book where she talks about expecting to be hounded by them in Italy, when in fact, no one knew her there.

    And I’m also assuming the link shows videos of her talking to John Sweeney. Didn’t look, just a WILD guess… Those videos are a creepy testament to Scientology for the pure fact that handlers are sitting there staring at the Scientology celebrities while they talk. They’re not getting that WE KNOW what Scientologists are MADE to say. And? The key difference between the Leah then and now, is that now she has knowledge. She’s not bashing Scientology for their “tech” (speaking in their lingo, I recoil in embarrassment), she didn’t opt out because it wasn’t working for her, she left because the veil was lifted. She left because of crimes against humanity.

    • Observer

      And that, to Scientology, is unforgivable.

    • OOkpik

      Welcome, Sars.
      Good comment.

    • aegerprimo

      Excellent comment.
      WELCOME SARS!

  • Observer

    For any new lurkers unfamiliar with Scientology, by attacking Leah it’s following the “scripture” of L. Ron Hubbard as handed down by him through policy letters and bulletins. Here is a link to some of Hubbard’s instructions on how to deal with people who “attack” (in other words, expose the truth) about Scientology. Hold on to your hat.

    http://suppressiveperson.org/?s=CO+POLICY+LETTER+OF+25+FEBRUARY+1966

    • LongtimeLurker

      Bravo Obs.

      Easy to forget the (very important) non-commenters.

      • Observer

        It’s hard to believe Scientology could be what it really is (evil!), and they use that to their advantage. Ron was very proud of it.

        https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e4af0339bffcfac938dabb67cdf409d6ca5f433f44b487a10c654054c29a73aa.jpg

        • LongtimeLurker

          The inside of his head must have been an awful place to be trapped in.

          • Observer

            So he attempted to make the whole world like the inside of his head…

        • flyonthewall

          the non-commenters are evil and use it to their advantage? What are you talking about Obs??

          • Observer

            Fixed, Grammarian Fly.

  • Dave Reams

    Who reads that Scientology hate site drivel anyway?

    • Observer

      Scientologists?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I’ve noticed that on social media, clams often refer people to these CO$ slam sites when presented with a related question. I think that’s their main purpose. They want to get out the CO$ side of the story without having the individual clams engage in a conversation. That would be too dangerous. Example…
      (refresh)

      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2e92bae14eb517d9869ccf286a5d062adcc8447255da667bb023ab0d7f736b17.png

      • LongtimeLurker

        As a serial killer, I’m offended that you believe what the sensationalist media says about serial killers.

        You should go straight to the source.

        Let’s meet up and I’ll kill you and wear your skin as a sarong.

        Then you can make up your own mind about us serial killers.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I’d sew his balls into a tight jock strap.

        • Kim O’Brien

          let’s not highjack the sarong for such a travesty . I already had to kick Mel Gibson out of my spank bank when he went all jew crazy . Sarongs are not to be made from skin . Belt’s…you can make belt’s out of skin . None of my imaginary boyfriends wear belt’s

          • LongtimeLurker

            Sorry. It was out of line.

      • edge

        I’m a Scientologist and I like to rip off old people of their retirement savings. If you don’t like that, delete me, but don’t judge me until you’ve ripped off an old person. It’s pretty f’n dope.

  • Juicer77

    Jezebel is covering the new show, plus a link to article about Laura DeCrescenzo! http://jezebel.com/leah-remini-urges-everyone-to-wake-up-in-the-first-trai-1788486759

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Love those articles with embedded links to more info on the various high-profile cases and scandals that hold a mirror up to $cn for all to see!

    • Tony Ortega

      Wow. First sentence of that story is completely untrue. The series was announced just recently, not “over a year ago.” Yikes.

      • LongtimeLurker

        I dunno Tony, on Tuesday the same writer posted an article about Bob Saget’s apparent mid-life crisis in the Fuller House Season 2 Trailer.

        And that seemed really well-researched to me.

        • Rasha

          …there’s gonna be a Season 2??? O.o

          • LongtimeLurker

            ikr?

            Netflix doesn’t use ratings the way cable companies do.

            Allegedly they have a more holistic approach when deciding what to fund.

            Having said that, if the figures were really low, they’d cancel it.

            Which means that at least a couple of million humans watched Season 1.

            So…that’s depressing

            • Princess Squishy

              I loved it. I think their viewership is mostly “90’s kids” also referred to as “millennials” (but I think the older millennials, that ‘millennial’ generation spans a long time, it referred to 18-34 year olds in 2015, which feels crazy, I’m 31 so I’m technically a millennial) who grew up watching Full House and are looking for a nostalgic feel good. Seems like that’s a regular pass time of us older millennials.
              I was a very sheltered child, Full House was one of the only things I was allowed to watch growing up. And I still watch Full House reruns sometimes. That super hot young John Stamos is half the appeal for me now though. Not so much for Fuller House. Fuller House was kind of funny though. I’m ready for season 2.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I’m forty-*cough*-something. So maybe I was the wrong age when it first came out.

              And to be fair, all I know of Fuller House is the trailer for Season 1

            • Princess Squishy

              Well you might not be the right continent either. Was it popular in Australia when it was airing in the US?

              Anyways 40 something makes you Gen X right? Same as my husband. He makes fun of me every time I watch Full House. At least he used to until I told him that cheesy Full House is not any more ridiculous than cheesy WWE Wrestling and I could make fun of that every time he watched it if he wanted me to.

            • LongtimeLurker

              We got it at the same time, but it wasn’t broadcast in prime-time, iirc.

              But it rated fairly well.

              Absolutely, it’s definitely no more ridiculous or cheesy than wrestling, that’s for sure.

  • Mymy88

    It would be nice…

    In the year 2025
    David Miscavige, if you are still alive
    there will be nothing for you to do
    nobody’s gonna look at you
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=izQB2-Kmiic

    • LongtimeLurker

      CLASSIC!

    • Mymy88

      ……

  • I want to see Leah on True Detective or some other police procedural show.
    Please and thank you.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      That is odd, I was just thinking that the other day.

    • April

      Hell yeah she’d be great for a cop or detective character.

      • Eivol Ekdal

        I guest spot on Chicago Fire!

  • Graham

    With Leah Remini doing a series on A&E Scientology’s really been caught on the back foot.

    If only they’d thought ahead and bought a TV studio somewhere and got it all set up so they could have broadcast their side of the story to the world via TV, internet and all other media. They could have had a grand opening with balloons and everything and people like John Alex Wood could have gone on Twitter and disseminated the good news about their amazing media center and they would have been all ready and prepared to counteract anything Leah could throw at them.

    • Suzy

      Graham, I nearly fell off my chair laughing at this one!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Heehee!

      And welcome back 🙂

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    I am going to update the list of articles covering Leah’s new series because Pete’s added several new ones this evening, and I think it’s very on-topic per today’s Bunker blog. Headline after headline proclaiming abuse, sexual assault and violence.

    (How brave Amy Scobee is. I’m pretty sure it is her revelation, touched on so briefly in the trailer, that has caused this avalanche of Press.)

    Yesterday:

    The Hollywood Reporter – Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Trailer Alleges Church Rape, Violence and Other Abuse
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/live-feed/leah-reminis-scientology-series-trailer-alleges-church-rape-violence-abuse-943420

    Marie Claire – The First Trailer for Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Is Here, and It Is Absolutely Chilling
    ttp://www.marieclaire.com/celebrity/news/a23369/leah-remini-scientology-series-ae/

    The Hollywood Gossip – Leah Remini: Scientology Church is Full of Rape, Forced Abortions!
    http://www.thehollywoodgossip.com/2016/11/leah-remini-scientology-church-is-full-of-rape-forced-abortions/

    NY Daily News – Leah Remini’s telling docu-series aims to expose the Church of Scientology — ‘Let’s get to the abortions’
    http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/leah-remini-series-aims-expose-church-scientology-article-1.2855652

    Mail Online – Abuse, sexual assault and abortions: Leah Remini exposes shocking and explosive allegations against Scientology in new television series
    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3898554/Abuse-sexual-assault-abortions-Leah-Remini-exposes-shocking-explosive-allegations-against-Scientology-new-television-series.html

    Blasting News – ‘Leah Remini: Scientology and the Aftermath’ series alleges church rape and violence
    http://us.blastingnews.com/showbiz-tv/2016/11/leah-remini-scientology-and-the-aftermath-series-alleges-church-rape-and-violence-001228157.html

    The Huffington Post – Leah Remini Breaks Down In First Trailer For Scientology Docuseries (And You Will, Too)
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/leah-remini-breaks-down-and-you-will-too-in-first-trailer-for-new-scientology-docuseries_us_5819dd61e4b00f11fc5cc3f6

    Jezebel – Leah Remini Urges Everyone to ‘Wake Up’ in the First Trailer for Her Scientology Docuseries
    http://jezebel.com/leah-remini-urges-everyone-to-wake-up-in-the-first-trai-1788486759

    ONTD – Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Trailer Alleges Church Rape, Violence and Other Abuse
    http://ohnotheydidnt.livejournal.com/103922273.html

    Today:

    Decider – Leah Remini’s New Series Alleges Sexual & Physical Abuse in Scientology
    http://decider.com/2016/11/02/leah-remini-scientology-rape/

    Perez Hilton – First Trailer Of Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Exposes Child Sex Abuse, Violence, & Other Scandals In Church Of Scientology
    http://perezhilton.com/2016-11-02-leah-remini-church-scientology-docuseries-reality-show-trailer-video

    Movie Pilot – Wake Up: Leah Remini’s Scientology Series Promises Must-Watch TV
    http://moviepilot.com/p/leah-remini-scientology-series-promises-must-watch-tv/4139877

    Hello Giggles – Actress Leah Remini’s docu-series about Scientology looks absolutely gripping and we can’t wait to watch
    http://hellogiggles.com/leah-remini-docu-series-about-scientology-looks-absolutely-gripping/

    MSN – Actress’ Docuseries Reveals Scientology Scandals
    http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/actress-docuseries-reveals-scientology-scandals/vp-AAjNVjv

    The Awl – I am going to watch the F out of the Leah Remini Scientology docuseries
    https://theawl.com/lets-dish-83eb13df96cd#.zi5txy29o

    Vulture – Watching the Trailer for Leah Remini’s Scientology Docuseries Will Probably Get You Labeled a Supressive Person, But It’s Worth It
    http://www.vulture.com/2016/11/watch-leah-reminis-scientology-series-trailer.html

    • Anony-Lurker

      thank you!

    • Ann B Watson

      Andrea,today is a very very bright one.I have been waiting for all this to come out,all these years.Finally the dark heart and the Zero Soul of this cult will be broadcast for all to see.What those of us saw pre-79 ties in with what Leah is documenting.What all of us saw ties in.I was wondering about that TV studio of dm’s.Throw some pixie dust at it and poof it disappears.Always love your posts.💖🌈

    • LongtimeLurker
    • ReallyMGM

      Thanks Andrea for all the links. I hope after the the series begins airing it will lead to mainstream news in addition to the entertainment news.

      Amy Scobee’s book, “Abuse at the Top,” is very good. However, it is very hard to read how badly she was abused as a young teenager by people of authority in the church. It is sickening to think how many children have been abused by this organization. (Keep up the fight, Laura DeCrescenzo)

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        You’re most welcome. It’s actually Pete Griffiths who is collecting them all (he does the same with every breaking news story on SPs). Seeing the headlines listed one after the other is so shocking: it’s a veritable wall of adverse publicity.

        • ReallyMGM

          Thanks to Pete, too!

        • LongtimeLurker

          psssst…

          It’s ‘Scobee’.

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Oh, thank you! You’re a star 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              It’s that unexpected American spelling.

  • stillgrace2

    I hope Leah dedicates one episode to Lisa McPherson’s story. Gut wrenching. Remember Lisa.

  • aegerprimo

    I can’t wait for Leah’s A&E 8 part series – Scientology and the Aftermath
    I love the title and it is a title all ex-sciloons like me can appreciate. The aftermath of leaving…. (so many words I could say here, but so many other exes have already said it better than I ever could). ♥

  • Bob Crouch

    Leah is going to make money off exposing a cult who has taken millions of her money? Scandalous! Wait, which part…

    This sounds like saying that someone bought a car so that they could end up filing a law suit and collecting under the lemon law. Sure, Pinocchio…

  • outraged

    To Those Who Remain:
    Leah Remini is exposing the underbelly of Scientology.
    A place she loved but was killing her softly…slowly….
    Leah left with her family, her heart and her life intact.
    You are no different. Save a life, leave Scientology.

    https://youtu.be/iuTJ98_znVM

  • Chee Chalker

    How is Tommy Davis not a permanent member of the RPF?

    It was Davis’ actions that led Paul Haggis to leave and speak to The New Yorker, which led to Going Clear.
    It was Davis who told Leah she ‘didn’t have the rank’ to ask about Shelly, which led to this A&E 8 PART SERIES on the Co$.

    It was Davis who said if LRH was not a war hero than Scientology was a fraud.

    I guess that will all be forgiven if Davis can wrangle billionaire James Packer back into the fold.

    • edge

      That is how they operate. If you do an ‘amends project’ (cough, pay up tons of money, cough) all your transgressions will be forgiven. Buy your way back into the good graces of COB.

    • LongtimeLurker

      It’s a good question.

      I think it shows that Miscavige doesn’t give a crap about Scientology, its followers, LRH or anything except himself.

      If he did, Davis would be in RPF.

      I think it’s much more likely that Miscavige metes out punishment based on how many friends on staff the target has, or if they smile too often, or are taller than him, or younger.

      Or if he’s just in a bad mood.

    • ReallyMGM

      Tommy’s RPF was living in Austin in a multimillion dollar home, selling real estate (wonder if if actually sold a single thing), and hanging out at the Austin clubs nights and weekends. Quite a bit different than the real sleeping on the roof of Big Blue, scraping paint, and eating rice and beans.

    • pluvo

      He left the Sea Org, thus no RPF.

      • Chee Chalker

        But he has the Sea Org tattoo!

        I wonder if COB made him take the tattoo off like they do in motorcycle gangs. They cut it out

        • ReallyMGM

          I am really surprised DM didn’t demand Tommy have the tattoo lasered off. It’s not like Tommy doesn’t have the money to keep going back enough time to have it removed.

    • Jeb Burton

      I love Tommy Davis assholedness. He was great at his job. Spokeswoman Pouw is like a ghost. We never see her. Tommy was out in front on all the issues.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Mama “bunny boiler” has a wealthy husband plus she’s a celeb, i guess.

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Mummy’s Money. You can bet that Tommy’s F Ups have cost her tons over the years.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    From Mike Rinder’s blog today – “I got a part of me back that had been buried for trillions of years…”
    Most of these clam quotes that are supposed to get people excited, just make me sad.
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b2c301f540627b29405674e3816dcf8edc619c7479b2a6cb712d4e79f50232d8.png

    • Observer

      Isabella Cruise’s ex?

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Great memory.

      • Sherbet

        I remembered, too!

      • madame duran

        Yes it is!

        I don’t know what led to their break up (was it a compatibility problem or did Frencher’s decision to join the Sea Org effectively kill the love life?). I find it sad that Bella got to move on with her life, pursue her chosen career, travel to England and get married while Eddie is stuck slaving his youth away in a Sea Org uniform and having every one of his movements monitored. No special, kid glove, celebrity treatment for him!

  • the hits keep coming on my other new fav site – today’s entry (posted over 2.5yrs ago, derp) clocks in at number 30 on the list of 67 Things You’ll Never Hear An Angeleno* Say:

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/c627ec4adcad3533c63c9bf2629423ca2ad2398797c0494f0aa985c7c5fbbbcc.png
    *person that lives in L.A.

    • Missionary Kid

      Where did that come from?

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Time Out? They’re on a roll!

    • Ugh cash only are horrible words. They should never be put together.

      • my local taco truck has the Square app and takes cards now!

        • Thank god. I live in East LA so none of them take cards. Even though they should because it’s safer for business. But they probably use the cash to pay the local gangs for protection. Ugh whatever. 90% when I want tacos I have to go to a restaurant because I don’t have cash.

          • about 10yrs ago, this same truck was robbed at gunpoint while i placed my order… in broad daylight
            #surrealexperience

            • Holy shit, that’s crazy scary! I’m glad you made it out of there okay. Do you know if they ever caught the guy?

            • Kim O’Brien

              sexist

            • i doubt it. i did my part and hit 911 as it was happening, though. cops showed up about 30min later.

              which also reminds me of 2 other completely unrelated stories but involving the same guy:
              – about 4-5yrs ago, the medicinal weed store next door was robbed around 11pm, also gunpoint, guy working the counter gets pistol-whipped, suspect jumps the 10ft chain link fence into our lot and plays it all casual asking my buddy for a ride. buddy, being the nice guy that he is, gives suspect a ride. he was then known as The Wheelman.

              – 2yrs ago, The Wheelman, who is a semi-known very muscled up and in-shape 80s rocker, goes for a jog around the block in the afternoon, gets confronted by 2 armed homies, and proceeds to street fight them on the sidewalk in front of my office. that earned him the new nickname of Street Fighting Man.

              a) i work in a very rough neighborhood
              b) the new Valley iDeal Org is literally about 1mile away

            • Ugh I hate that. I called in gunshots one time and the cops showed up to check it out like 45 minutes later. As if the guy wouldn’t have taken off already.

            • flyonthewall

              soooo….did you get your tacos or….?

            • absolutely, bro. excellent customer service is a priority for these taco truck guys.

            • flyonthewall

              nice

    • iampissed

      I love number 29…..really!

  • Juicer77

    It took Sci 6 months to sic people onto my Twitter acct. Critic smears and some likes from vocal Scientologists. I think they have sent out the alarm for All Hands On Deck. Perhaps due to an upcoming TV show? Those of us who try for civil discussion are in for an interesting couple of weeks. Correction : followers not Sci, it appears. My bad.

    • LongtimeLurker

      I was thinking of restarting my “Scientology Awareness” Twitter.

      I dunno why I’m telling you this.

      • Juicer77

        Because you is my friend. 😉 Nice beret, BTW. Stylin’ and profilin’.

        • LongtimeLurker

          You’re right.

          About both things. ; )

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I did various searches for Leah and none of those freedumb adverts came up.
    https://www.google.com/search?q=leah+remimni&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=leah+remini
    Edit; Ok, I typed in seven different ways and not even” Leah Rimini scientology” came up with a negative ad.

    • LongtimeLurker

      We think they only paid for a few hours.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I got it. Thanks Sweet Pants.

        • LongtimeLurker

          No sweat, Hot Stuff.

      • iampissed

        Leah is worth more then a couple of hours…don’t ya think.
        Hope she doesn’t find that insulting, Love ya lady.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I do.

          It is insulting.

          I suspect there’s something else afoot, because this news is everywhere, so they can’t possibly think it doesn’t deserve a bigger response.

          Maybe they decided to clear the airwaves prior to something major?

          Full page newspaper ad?

          • LongtimeLurker

            Just to be clear – I don’t mean you’re insulting, I mean the Church’s lack of effort is.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Not to be a “doubting Thomas’ but I ventured over to a co-worker’s computer and saw nothing about her on the front page of Freedumb mag or in the search…?

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      Mine comes up on page 4. Once you click on it, it should show up on page 1 afterwards.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Strange, I looked through all the various additions and still can’t find her attack vid. Tony frowns on us posting links off of Freedumb mag so I guess i’ll just have to guess what they’ve said. Seen one you’ve seen them all but thanks!

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Okay, if you go to the truth about Leah remini, the page will have a long dissertation about Leah. The interviews of her are at the very bottom of the page. You have to scroll all the way to the bottom.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    New site:

    The complete “Oh No, Ross and Carrie” 2016 Scientology Series

    “The Underground Bunker meets ONRAC” was the love story of 2016 as far as I am concerned, and now we can re-live it all over again 🙂

    https://rosscarriescientology.wordpress.com/

    • LongtimeLurker

      Still haven’t got round to this. Thank you for the link.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        What the flagnog, Lurker?! Get on the job at the double! You will absolutely love it 🙂

        • LongtimeLurker

          I know, I know. I sorry. Will report to Bunker Hole.

      • iampissed

        Oh (No) you should. Amuck, Amuck, Amuck.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I have no good excuse.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    This is the most realistic Scientology advertisement I have ever seen on Craigslist: a stack of Hubbard firelighters for $1 😀

    https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/clt/5857807181.html

    • Missionary Kid

      I may be going to that area in a couple of days. It’s about an hour’s drive. For $1, I could possibly buy all of them, if it isn’t too far out of my way. I’ll enjoy putting the whole collection in recycling.

      • I think they put that area as a joke. Because Hemet is where Int Base is.

        • Missionary Kid

          The Hemet area is really pretty large (about 25 square miles), Even if it’s a joke, I’ll contact them and see what the deal is. They said that they didn’t know if Co$ allowed them to sell the stuff.

        • Missionary Kid

          Nope. I called the seller. He’s in Hemet itself. He’s aware of Int Base, and thinks it’s creepy. He’s never had anything to do with Co$. See my reply to i-Betty.

        • Missionary Kid

          I wrote how things turned out at http://tonyortega.org/2016/11/03/scientology-strikes-back-at-leah-remini-as-publicity-for-her-upcoming-series-explodes/#comment-2983970841

          Nice guy, who’s trying to sell crap that he didn’t understand how worthless it is. He was told the CD’s cost the guy who gave them to him for a debt thousands. I told him about all the exes who simply throw their stuff out.

      • iampissed

        No bonfire

        • Missionary Kid

          Since it’s CD’s, they’d all go into plastic recycling.

    • iampissed

      I’ll have my kid pick them up for you if you would like.

      • Missionary Kid

        Do they live close to Hemet? I’m wondering what the story is.

    • Missionary Kid

      I called the number provided. The guy who’s selling the Co$ crap was owed money by someone who spent all his money on $cientology and no longer has any money, so he offered it to the seller. I had a talk with the seller. He has no interest in $cientology, and he talked about how creepy it was to drive by Gold Base, with all the cameras. I told him that at night, while most places have the lights pointed in to highlight the property, they have their lights pointed out, so they can see who’s out there.

      He said the material was really weird, with all sorts of checklists. I told him that I’d be buying it just so it doesn’t end up in anyone else’s hands.

      I told him that it was typical of $cientology to suck out all the money they can from a person, then kick them to the curb. I told him about fair game, and some experiences that ex-$cientologists have endured.

      If I get a chance on Sat., I’ll go by and pick them up.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Great job, Mish. I love that you are buying them to keep them out of the hands of the innocent! Presumably the person who gave them to him in lieu of partial debt has to be an ex? I can’t imagine him parting with official materials otherwise.

        Please keep us updated 🙂

        • Missionary Kid

          I imagine that the guy who owes money is completely down and out, and is either so disillusioned with $cientology, he’s just walked away. If I go, I’ll let you know what the story is.

    • Missionary Kid

      See my report at http://tonyortega.org/2016/11/03/scientology-strikes-back-at-leah-remini-as-publicity-for-her-upcoming-series-explodes/#comment-2983970841 The poor guy thought he could get more for the stuff.

      Nice guy, and not a clam.

  • flyonthewall

    GETCH YO HAND OUTTA MY POCKET!!

    • LongtimeLurker

      That’s not my hand…

      • flyonthewall

        *sigh* Do I have to do everything around here myself? *racks shotgun*

        • Rasha

          Oh, sweet cheese and crackers, I’m in tears here!!!!

          • iampissed

            I’d like to be the first to take your condolences.

      • iampissed

        That’s not my pocket
        Sorry…stream of confusion thing.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Get your stream out of my pocket.

          • flyonthewall

            will you guys plz just take your dicks out of each others pockets, jeez

    • Princess Squishy

      GET YOUR POCKET OFF OF MY HAND!!!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    An update on ecumenical and ecclesiastical matters as they currently stand in Civilisation VI. As in the real world, so it is in virtual reality as my newly formed religion fails to gain a foothold. I am a shoddy religious leader. Me and the Buddhists will be sitting over here on the step. F5

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/645ef7b223b083cf0e5171654fc2f3bc9b339fb5f4ce0e689beefd95f2e949c3.jpg

    • you need to build them iDeal Orgs, that will put asses in your seats

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        I’m so focused on being the wealthiest civilisation in the game that tending to my flock has rather fallen by the wayside. This pacifist is all about affording end-game heavy weaponry and crushing my neighbours.

        • eti – the trick is to get them to pay for their Org. i can’t stress this enough: FUNDRAISER, FUNDRAISER, FUNDRAISER

          i really hope this isn’t a case of “art imitates life imitates art”… if you catch my drift

      • Is Super Power Building a civilization advance?

    • LongtimeLurker

      Hahahaha!

      Suck it, fake virtual fake religion!

  • flyonthewall

    speaking of dicks, can someone plz tell me wtf is going on here? Is dick bumping a thing in baseball? I am legitimately asking https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/09661e7fcef696f044f341d81d427e1f5fb32fe14a475ca9ebea019eb386306e.gif

    • Bro-boning?

      • flyonthewall

        something, people have problems

      • Rasha

        Broners. It’s new. They don’t talk about it.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Sort of like “sticky biscuit”

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      I have no idea but I can say that Mr. Kay, who is a sports and ESPN addict, would think this is weird.

      • flyonthewall

        ok thank you so it’s not just me. I am not a sports guy at all

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          🙂 Well I have heard and seen more sports than I have ever cared to, that’s for sure. Sometimes I just get on my computer with Bose headphones and watch a movie because I can’t stand it anymore but want to keep him company. If it was just one or two sports…ok, but every major sport ? arrggghh. He even watches golf, which to me is like watching paint dry.

          • Kestrel

            Watching golf on TV is great for a nap.

            • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

              Laugh !! I was struggling to watch the US open golf tournament with him once and said, “You know this would be a lot more entertaining if all of the golfers got into a fight and started throwing punches….now THAT’S a sport I would enjoy watching.” He just rolled his eyes.

            • Missionary Kid
            • Missionary Kid

              Golf is a good walk, spoiled.

          • Rasha

            Golf: Those manic frenzies between innings of cricket.

    • Kestrel

      Maybe it’s a Chicago thing.

      • flyonthewall

        ^^this^^ This is what I’m going with.

        • Kestrel

          Glad I could help. My job here is done.

    • Missionary Kid

      I didn’t see it.

      • Kestrel

        That’s always the best answer.

    • looks like the one guy went for the kiss but the other guy just wanted to cuddle and it got a little awkward

    • Rasha

      Tenor…tenor….tenor…tenor… ALTO

      • daisy

        You are such a funny goof

        • Rasha

          …as long as I don’t think before I type, I’m safe…

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Leah looks prettier now than she did in those later pictures above. Those responses from the cherch are predictable and reflect the emotional maturity of a 12 year old.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    I dont know if it is so much “Scientology Strikes back” at Leah but more like Scientology sends a lame attack, as powerful as a mouse’s fart, back at Leah Remini.

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)
      • Spike Robinson

        Oh. My. God. The way he just rocks back into place…. (breathless)

      • Rasha

        Possibly the best speech David Miscavige evar gave! I understand now why so many good people trust and fo-llo– Hold on… *squints* ……. hey, wait a sec…..

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          ^ ^ giggles
          ___

      • LongtimeLurker

        That poor little guy. His little mouse body must have been 50% pure flatus.

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Ikr? He gets a flatus meritorious status for that one. ☺️🐹❤️

          • LongtimeLurker

            Stealing it!

    • Kestrel

      It would seem you have yet to have the pleasure of catching a mouse that has been dining exclusively on Brussels sprouts.

      • TheMirrorThetan

        I will consider my life to have been incomplete until I do.
        It sounds like a treat. 🙂

        • Kestrel

          It will prove to be an unforgettable experience.

  • Leah said – “I love being involved with it, because then I, you know, I feel like I’m a good person.”

    That’s exactly how I felt too and I am sure most of the SP/Exes.

    Scientology takes your good intentions, manipulates you into questioning yourself by means of statistics system and imaginary past lives crimes, punishes you under pretense of help by ethics conditions and sec checks/ethics interviews/interrogations and false imprisonment/”baby watch”.

    All of the above can drive anyone nuts and it does. To the point of actually doing immoral act or two (I am guilty), as a confused, insane Fuck you to the whole conundrum. Just my experience. Eta: they will use it against you or not depending on what side you will choose.

    My point is – Leah Remini was/is a good person before, during and after scientology. Good Person.

    • Kestrel

      and so are you.

      • daisy

        You type faster so^^^^^^^^ instead

    • Missionary Kid

      I second Kestrel.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      I third Kestrel and MK. You are a very good person indeed.

    • iampissed

      Was/is Powerful…Thank You.

    • LongtimeLurker

      I (try to) assume that any ex who is decent and intelligent got into Scientology for reasons like you talk about.

      Most of our exes here, including you Dodo, clearly fall into that category imho.

      And I agree, Leah seems okay.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Are you on the wrong site? This isn’t The Bunker dating site. Sorry to hear about your divorce Dodo. But you’ll find your 2D soon enough if you log in everyday. ” All my Ex’s come from Texas.”

        • WTF?

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            I’m glad you’re confused too. Haven’t been around much and was worried about you when i read that.

            • Not sure what Todd is smoking. No divorce here.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ok good. But drones? That’s kind of creepy.

            • daisy

              Damn i was going to take a shot, happy for you , i guess.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I don’t smoke anything for the record. Just being cheeky.

            • i think he is joking around the “ex” terminology

          • Todd Tomorrow

            It was a joke aimed at LL, you and “Ex’s” Sorry my mum called and at the time couldn’t correct it. All apologies.

            • now you’re in deep shit 🙂

        • LongtimeLurker

          I get them mixed up.

          When your ex says “you’ll never find anyone like me” Just smile and reply “that’s the point”

          • Todd Tomorrow

            True, true true..

        • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

          Or Es Ef

          • Todd Tomorrow

            ?, lost.

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              It was a failed attempt to phonetically express SF…that’s all. Booooo…I know.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Ok, you must have hypnotized me to get all that info out of me. Nice to see you by the way:)

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              Heheh! I’m not the one who asked 😉 Glad to see you’re around and that all is well.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Oh so you know who it is that’s what you’re sayin’?

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              I swear on my cat I don’t know who she is. When I said “booo….I know” I meant , I know my attempt to express SF phonetically was lame. And I only mentioned SF because it kinda rhymed with Texas. I honestly never knew you were dating a bunkerite and who it could possibly be. I don’t maintain any personal contacts with anyone from theBunker -outside email anyways. Eta: I don’t stay in the loop regarding such things. I’m too busy. I just learned today and that’s why I was surprised.

        • daisy

          Speaking of dating in the bunker, are you still dating a bunkerite ? Yes i am nosy.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            No they literally ‘disconnected” from because I had a bad year in my stock business due to the fact,” I was paying more attention to them than my business.”(My own quote). But that’s what happens in tthe early stages of romance. You spend too much money, ignore your friend’s…
            You can take the Sea Argger out of $cientology, however, at times they seemed to be somewhat abiding by hub’s code. I truly enjoyed enjoyed orienting them to fun stuff that had gone on for decades in the outside world but sadly they had missed so much. I’ll always love them from a distance and it didn’t end badly. Usually friends with my ex’s I’ve been dumped into that easily accumulated pile of smoldering world of people they claim to love but are full of their relatives, friends, pts and Sp’s. etc..I learned it takes a great deal of time to get that madman hubs out of their system, declared or not!
            So sweet they’d call me every morning for over a year to wake me up and tuck me in with a phone call at night. That was so sweet. Such a great person I hope they have found a new 2 D, as I have.

            • daisy

              Sorry to hear that Todd but it sounds like you have recovered from it just fine.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              In time I’ll try to reach out to them again but soon after they had some heavy stuff go on in their lives. Thus far after my “disconnection” my out reach has met with dedimidation.

            • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

              Wow! I missed a lot while I was gone. Crispin will be okay, as always ☺️.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              LOL, Stop it!

    • Rasha

      I admire those who circumvented the danger, but I am in awe of those who made it through and out.

      • The trap is made of lower Bridge and the front groups. And tax breaks.

  • Spike Robinson

    Hey diddely ho Bunkerinos, Spike here, reminding you that Jon Atack’s book Opening Minds is now on sale in hard copy, and for those of you who bought the original version on Kindle, just turn your updates on and the new version is already yours!

    https://www.amazon.com/opening-minds-manipulation-influence-brainwashing/dp/0997109637/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1478220220&sr=8-1&keywords=jon+atack+opening+minds

    And, completely O/T, but because I know I’m among friends and he gave his (grudging) permission, I want to share with you the portrait I did of le boss-man, completely done in flowers and leaves from his garden (for those of you who are lucky enough to know him personally, you know how he’s in the habit of sending pictures of his flowers with emails).
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/58f87f3bf9fd50713df509c28d2b9179e25f9505008fa90654f5a8eab6b9fd98.jpg

    And, back to pimping professionally, if you haven’t checked out our new organization, Open Minds Foundation, well, why not????

    https://www.amazon.com/opening-minds-manipulation-influence-brainwashing/dp/0997109637/ref=tmm_pap_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1478220220&sr=8-1

    • everchangingmeezer (wogsy)

      I’m the last one to know anything these days. I wasn’t aware he had a new book. Buying!!!

      Eta: Ordered!!!

      • Spike Robinson

        Bless you. This is why I keep re-posting.

        And make sure to check out the site. We’re trying to start a revolution here…. 😉

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Thank you for posting. Just ordered it–looks fantastic!

      ETA: Love your portrait.

      • Spike Robinson

        Thank you, and thank you so much!

        We’re hoping that this book leads to other people writing similar books and thinking about influence in a different way.

        And… an in-joke with the portrait – those are pansies as Jon’s skin-tone; pansies are, of course, pensees, or thoughts. And he’s a thinking guy! So… well, now that I type it out it’s not so much a joke as geekery. Ah, well.

        • PerpetualOutflow

          Love your artistry Spike. Thanks for all you continue to do!

          • Spike Robinson

            Thanks! I enjoy a challenge, and love producing Art With A Message.

    • daisy

      Very beautiful and creative. He is lucky to have you and visa versa.

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks, Daisy! I feel very very lucky just to have my life. I’ve been able to connect people with support groups and therapists, get info to people who needed it, published (hopefully) thought-provoking blogs, and done my part to help the human race learn to deal with each other in a better way.

    • Kim O’Brien

      does he have a brother or something , named Mike Atack ?

      • Spike Robinson

        He has brothers, but none of them are called Mike. However, it’s a common name in Ye Olde, as apparently, it merely means “of the oak,” which means that the family house, back in Ye Olde, was under an oak. 🙂

  • For the record – first time ever I just stared at the drone staring at me on my roof patio. Along with my two neighbours. It was about 200 feet above us, red and green lights, to meet air safety regulations I suppose.

    It was pretty cool. I waved at it with my beer bottle.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Was this a private, citizen-owned drone?

      Or some kind of terrifying Robocop / Terminator rise of the machines police thing?

      • Rasha

        …Dodo has a roof patio????

        • LongtimeLurker

          Dammit. You win.

          • Rasha

            Meh. Type a couple hundred nonsense comments in a day, one of ’em is bound to stick…

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, that had timing, surrealism, the right audience (me).

              It was pretty great.

            • Rasha

              ^_^

            • LongtimeLurker

              Also, always good to hear I’m not the only one commenting a lot (a lot).

      • Don’t know. It wasn’t a cheap one. I know that. Very fast.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Cool!

          • I guess. Timing is weird. Tinfoil.

            • LongtimeLurker

              No! You don’t think…

              Surely they can’t have their act together that much?

              Can they?

            • It flew from west, stopped directly above for about 25 seconds and flew right back.
              Who knows.

            • LongtimeLurker

              It stopped?!

              What the what?

              Wait there, I’ll be right over.

            • Drones are smaller helicopters with cameras.

            • LongtimeLurker

              I know, but at first I thought you meant it was just flying somewhere and happened to pass your house.

              Which, you know, could happen to anyone, I guess.

              But then the stopping near you part…

              …but like you said…tinfoil…

            • Todd Tomorrow

              And the more you spend, for the most part, the better the drone.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              This is what I’m buying myself for X-mas. Broke too many drones now time for my head.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oJsPWnin6kk

        • Eivol Ekdal

          DJI Mavic Pro

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I crashed my drone I saved two months to buy. Luckily, American Express is going to pay for the cost of fixing it. I hate credit cards but this has saved my butt twice. One of my Greyhounds jumped up to grab a piece of chicken (I was learning how to make it on youtube) sending my laptop onto the tile floors.. I was so bummed because it was almost brand new.I sent them the estimate and put the repair on my Amex. Sure enough they covered the 1132.00(new screen) and it showed up on my bill, as a credit. And I bitched prior about the yearly fee. They did refuse to pay when my rent a car got scratched by a garbage truck years ago, saying my auto policy should cover it. Luckily, I buffed it out with rubbing compound and Hertz was none the wiser.

      • Missionary Kid

        I did the buffing trick on a rental myself.

      • you have an insurance policy connected to American Express?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          It comes with the Delta Amex Platinum Card, which I fly for work. It lets you check bags for free and comes with insurance, too.

    • Username

      Red and green lights …. maybe an early Christmas gift from you know who… you might want to add bb gun that shoots 200+ feet to your wish list from Santa this year.

      • I got something much better. Need to read up on legal aspects first though.

        • Missionary Kid

          The FAA has just posted the regulations for drones. I didn’t watch the presentation on it, but see my answer to Username.

      • Missionary Kid

        Aircraft are supposed to have green lights on the starboard side and red on the port side (left) just like on ships, as well as a white light shining to the rear. (The red and green lights aren’t visible from the rear).

        The new FAA regulations are that drones are not supposed to fly at night, unless they have a waiver, and the drones must be in the operator’s line of sight at all times.

        Enforcing that is something else.

        • Gus_Cox

          Actually, red goes on the port side. If you see a ship and “red is on the right” it means it’s a’ comin’ toward ya!

          • Missionary Kid

            You’re right. Senior moment. I meant to type it the other way around. I’ve corrected it.

            The reason is that one gives way to the traffic on the right in a boat as well as a plane. The traffic sees green or red to stop or go.

    • Harmless Weirdo

      I used to be really good with a slingshot. The first time a drone appears over my neighborhood will probably give me sufficient motivation to brush up on my skills.

  • Observer

    Anyone in the mood for mean tweets?

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=9aUK3R_r_vo

    • daisy

      Always- some people are so creative with their insults.

    • LongtimeLurker

      This is one of my favorite things. But I keep forgetting it exists.

      This is like the third time you’ve come through for me.

      Thank you.

      eta – man, that Rascal Flatts guy was having the time of his life. : )

  • Missionary Kid

    Report on the $cientology materials for sale in Hemet that was on the Inland Empire Craig’s list for $1

    I was ready to drive to Hemet tonight and pick it up. https://inlandempire.craigslist.org/clt/5857807181.html

    Unfortunately, when I called the seller back, he actually wanted $100. It wasn’t a matter of a scam, but I think that the guy thought that since the guy who gave it to him had paid thousands for the material, that he could get $100 for them. I then explained to him about $cientology’s sales of books and CD’s: they charge thousands for materials, but won’t buy them back, and discourage people from buying them from anyone else. I told him that they are essentially worthless, and I know exes who have thrown out garages full of books and materials that $cientology insisted they buy, including multiple copies. I didn’t tell him that I was willing to spend $30 or so on gas, but I did tell him I was offering only about $5 for the CD’s and checksheets, but that was it.

    I told him about Leah’s upcoming show, as well as Going Clear and about some of the abuses that have taken place at Int Base. I told him about Ron Miscavige Sr. escaping, then the PI’s, and the silencer found in the car, as well as Davy forcing his sisters to disconnect from Ron Sr. because he talked to some exes.

    I didn’t want to overload him with information. I asked him what happened to guy who gave him the CDs to try to cover money owed. The seller told me that the guy had given them to him a couple of years ago when he left town, broke, with his home foreclosed. I told him that was typical. He said that the last time he heard from the guy, he was living someplace back east and was weirded out. I explained to him about Fair Game, and gave him some examples of shit that’s been pulled on exes.

    We had a nice conversation, and, I’m proud to say that I educated another person on how dangerous $cientology is. He already thought it was weird, with all of the video cameras surrounding Int Base.

    • LongtimeLurker

      MK, that was an interesting reminder of how all this craziness must look to the average human.

      It’s easy to forget.

      Also, good work.

      • Missionary Kid

        Thanks. He was already primed, so it was easy.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I feel bad for the poor (literally) ex whose life was ruined by the cult, so he gave his materials away and moved. There are so many stories like that, which we do not hear about because I think most people just fade away. Leah and the outspoken ex’s are the exception.

  • Pandora’s Box

    I am not a Scientologist nor do I know any, so, I’m wondering about these comments that this so called church is making against Leah and what kind of idiot is running the place.
    Do they not understand that the average everyday person out there, like me, is now wondering how a “church” can bad mouth a person like this. I’ve never heard of a person getting kicked out of their church for such ridiculous reasons (except the catholic church and the excommunication practice which is a different animal). It all sounds so childish and immature. I’ve watched a couple of the videos of some of Scientologists “defending” their so called religion, and I’m shocked at the vulgar language, the demeaning comments (one woman told a man he had a bugger hangin’ out of his nose) and the way they act like toddlers.
    Do they not understand that this kind of crap is only making them look less and less like a religion and more and more like a business that cons everyone for money, violates the members’ first amendment rights and is serious abuse of child labor laws. God only know what other atrocities go on there – I know people have already died under the care of some of their entities.
    As far as filing a police report about a possible missing person – well that is what your supposed to do. If I were missing, I’d want someone to file one for me!!! It makes me very suspicious that they are upset about that. WTF!!! The IRS needs to get on the ball and check this organization out.
    I can see Miscavige’s new roommate now – Warren Jeffs.

    • It all boils down to the primitive thinking of it all. This kind of logic one can find in the mafia or kindergarten

      • Pandora’s Box

        It really bothers me that they have so much money behind them. I’m wondering what would happen if they lost their tax exempt status and how many would back them. Maybe the members who give only do it for the tax wright off.

        • i think the “whales” are speculating in this tax write off, but in my country there are no such thing and the sheep’s still flock around this an eye for an eye and tooth for a tooth ideology

          • Pandora’s Box

            I understand what your’re saying. I’ve always looked at the eye for an eye and tooth for tooth as this – If you loose an eye, then take no more than an eye, if you loose a tooth, then take no more than a tooth. If you take more than that, you leave yourself open for retaliation – then it becomes a viscous cycle.

        • Missionary Kid

          The whales get tax write-offs, the regular clams get them, too, but it still is a drag on their income.

        • Liberated

          The cult was evil long before their tax exemption status.
          I don’t think the whales give to them primarily for tax benefits, they give because of the intense pressure put upon them by registrars. They “love bomb ” these rich people.
          They make them feel like they are the greatest, most advanced, superior people on earth, also they do not take no for an answer.

          Then they reward them with a stupid tacky bowling trophy, and tell them famous people will show up at the big super-duper event in their honor. And they believe it.

          These people have a lot to lose if they do “come to their senses”.
          The cult will smear their names in the press, and “leak” their private confessionals just like they’ve done to Leah, Jason Beghe, Paul Haggis and on and on.

          • Pandora’s Box

            See, I don’t understand that breach of confidentiality. That’s NOT any religion I’ve ever heard of. You bear your soul to feel better and then someone “leaks” it. That’s just plain evil. Do they believe in God?

            • Liberated

              No they do not believe in God.
              They are not a religion, they just cheated, connived, played dirty, until they got their way to receive the tax break.

              This cult has been compared to the “mafia” with tax exemption status.
              I think that’s an accurate comparison.

            • Pandora’s Box

              Oh, OK, then. That make them dangerous like Waco or the Peoples Temple.

            • Liberated

              Oh yeah. People actually die in this cult.

            • slowly but surely

            • Pandora’s Box

              Thank you for shinning some light on this for me. I really thought they believed in God or Jesus. So, what’s with the cross?

            • Liberated

              The cross is actually from “black magic ” Hubbard was good buddies with Alistair Crowley, the prince of darkness.

              The problem people like you have and understandingly so, is that you attempt to see this cult through eyes of logic, justice ,and knowing the difference between right and wrong.

              That’s hard to do, it will drive you crazy.
              The more you read and find out, you will begin to see just how corrupt and criminal the “so called church ” is.

            • Pandora’s Box

              I know who Alistair Crowley is, and after I read your post, I looked up some things.
              Houston, we have a problem.
              Thank you for shedding some light on some things. I have some more reading to do.

            • ithilien

              he wasn’t “good buddies” with crowley, they never met. crowleys communication was with Parsons and not with Lron. Parsons was the head of the OTO chapter in Pasadena. of course, iron claimed a relationship with crowley in his usual overreaching way…. the inverted cross was not an occult symbol. its been projected onto the occult by christians and hollywood. to scandalize and shock. the black mass concept started there..so there may be some using it in the inverted position because thru movies it has developed a kind of authenticity and connection with the occult esp with satanism…. but they usually use an inverted pentacle.

              BUT! theres something more there too. something that has to with hubbards innate violence and aggression against women and babies. the constant reference to abortions in dianetics, the enforced abortions, the fetish ideation he tried to foist on the woman who was his second in command on the apollo, Hana…she was covered with swords, people were sticking swords in her….threatening to cut up his daughter into little bits. i would not at all be shocked to discover someday that he acted on his fantasies. he was obsessed with the idea of swords and i think the sword is incorporated into the scientology cross to both make it seem slightly christian (kind of normal and acceptable) and still make the hidden sword reference that was so important to lron.

            • LongtimeLurker

              The cross is deliberately and sneakily used so people will subconsciously associate Scientology with Christianity.

              Then it will seem familiar, and therefore more acceptable.

              The other thing to bear in mind is that Hubbard is on record as saying (for years) that Scientology is not and should not be a religion. He wanted people to think it was much more logical and “scientific” than any religion.

              It’s only when he came to realise that the benefits of being one outweighed the negatives, that he did an about face.

            • God! – they don’t believe in God! They believe in them self as God or godlike.
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mr7N4nGe7pc

            • Todd Tomorrow

              The Simpson’s should have been cancelled ages ago maybe then this crazy cracker will go away.

            • i hope not they would make a bart spinoff

            • madame duran

              Scientology cross (“the crossed-out cross”, “the cross with spikes”) has eight points instead of the typical four. Each point represents one of the eight “dynamics” or areas of survival.

              Wikipedia:

              – The first dynamic is the urge toward survival of self.
              – The second dynamic is the urge toward survival through sex, or children. This dynamic actually has two divisions. The second dynamic (a) is the sexual act itself and second dynamic (b) is the family unit, including the rearing of children.
              – The third dynamic is the urge toward survival through a group of individuals or as a group. Any group or part of an entire class could be considered to be a part of the third dynamic. The school, the club, the team, the town, the nation are examples of groups.
              – The fourth dynamic is the urge toward survival through all mankind and as all mankind.
              – The fifth dynamic is the urge toward survival through life forms such as animals, birds, insects, fish and vegetation, and is the urge to survive as these.
              – The sixth dynamic is the urge toward survival as the physical universe and has as its components Matter, Energy, Space and Time, from which we derive the word MEST.
              – The seventh dynamic is the urge toward survival through spirits or as a spirit. Anything spiritual, with or without identity, would come under the seventh dynamic. A sub-heading of this dynamic is ideas and concepts such as beauty and the desire to survive through these.
              – The eighth dynamic is the urge toward survival through the Supreme Being, or more exactly, infinity.

              It has NOTHING to do with Jesus, sin, death, salvation, repentance nor is it associated with anything from Christianity.

            • Pandora’s Box

              Thanks for explaining it to me. I’ve been doing some reading and it sounds like when you get to the top of a bridge, the secret reviled is to survive. If that’s true, I be pissed to have spent thousands of $s only just to learn what I already know.
              I wonder if any of the followers have read any of LRH’s science fiction novels. That’s all it is – fiction. I read he was a schizophrenic, heard voices and lived in a world of his own; that people in his life just blew him off as a chronic lyre (the nicer people call him a great storyteller).

            • “mafia” with tax exemption status – lol never heard that one before! -stolen!

            • check out this panicking guy…
              https://youtu.be/fw0bjO1lhwc

            • Pandora’s Box

              This man is right about the media. He seams like a very sincere person and is truly worried about what has happened. I do know though, that average people like me that have never had any ties to Scientology would come to the rescue of of a large issue like blackmail and Scientology. It’s a shame that people thrive on smut.
              Thank you for sharing this with me.

            • he is a long time, almost born in, scientologist that called out all the shite back then and joined the Anonymous somehow. going back to 2008.

            • beauty for ashes

              not a bad channel either, think I subscribe to it.
              Don’t like his exercise video though 😉

            • what exercise video 🙂 lol

            • beauty for ashes

              The one in aqua and purple spandex. Everyone is wearing headbands. The carpet is a mustardy color. The one you made in the eighties and you never meant for it to come back again.
              Just kiddin. I let my imagination carry me away sometimes.

            • ha ha… you almost got me there all the way down to the last sentence

            • UhLasare

              Great video, thanks for sharing.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Who is this guy? He’s very articulate and detailed in his description of the way celebs get set up for potential blackmail and coercion which is pretty convincing. I wonder how recently he fled the cult? He’d be a great candidate for an interview with Jeffrey Augustine of Chris Shelton!

              His appeal to the media to consider how their behavior makes it harder for celebs to escape the cult was very heart-felt and undoubtedly true, but seriously out of touch with the reality of how Hollywood media operates. They could give a rat’s ass about whether their actions make it hard for someone like JT to get out of the cult. They just want to get the story first because that’s where the money is and this what these folks do. In fact, if they don’t actually have that kind of sensational scandal material they’ll just make it up.

              That point aside, he made some very direct and damning claims about having seen the folders of several celebs which contained exploitable material that had been culled and collected from their auditing folders, confessional records and ethics reports. If that turns out to be an accurate account, then even if no actual blackmail attempts were made, just the existence of a special folder that contains only exploitable material taken from several different sources directly implies what their intent in compiling it was.

            • believe me, he’s been there done that… the man in himself is another rabbit hole. Dive in 🙂

            • madame duran

              His name is Aaron Saxton. Former Sea Org member, left cult, became a major critic down there in Australia/New Zealand (key person who informed Senator Xenophon of Scientology abuses), got harassed/sued(?) by cult, has since retreated from limelight to live a normal life but leaves legacy of online videos detailing what goes on inside of cult. Very informative.

            • Harpoona Frittata

              Thanks, I hadn’t run across any of his videos or read of his involvement in $cn anywhere else, so I had no idea how recently he’d exited the cult or in what capacities he’d been been associated with it. His account was very detailed, clearly presented and convincingly credible.

              $cn is big on getting those that they settle civil suits with to sign very detailed and specific non-disclosure agreements, then going after them with a vengeance if they violate them. Yet the cherch’s assurance of confidentiality and the sanctity of the confessional is a completely bogus one that it feels no compunction whatsoever about violating if it decides that an individual has gotten out of line or appears to be threatening to.

              This kind of systematized coercion/blackmail strategy is but one of many deceptive practices that the cherch very purposefully engages in that gives the lie to their claim of being the most ethical group on earth. Everyone who’s considering getting involved with the cult should be made aware of how completely false their promises of confidentiality are and the difference between sec checking and auditing before they invest a dime or reveal any details whatsoever about their personal lives.

    • Missionary Kid

      Most of what they post is for the $cientologists who are still drinking the Kool Aid. At this point, they’re just trying to keep the people in from abandoning the Titanic.

      They don’t realize that they are going after a cannon, locked and loaded, with a fly swatter.

      DM really has no concept of what PR is, other than to make any critics look bad. Since all they do is trot out a press release and slime web sites, and rarely have an on camera person to reply, they are truly fucked.

      Leah has an established reputation among TV viewers, who like her. She is also much more visible than Alex Gibney or Lawrence Wright or even our proprietor. People may know who Lisa Marie Presley is, but the younger generation doesn’t look at her as Elvis’ daughter so much as one of Michael Jackson’s wives.

      The only person with higher visibility that Co$ can trot out is Tommy Cruise, and he’s gotten his ass kicked over his attempt at making $cientology look palatable.

      • Pandora’s Box

        I’ve NEVER been a Cruise fan. Even in the 80’s he seamed creepy. My boys used to watch “Days of Thunder” but even in that he comes across as being a needy diva.

        • Missionary Kid

          I thought that at one time, he had talent. He was fairly good in his first films, like The Outsiders and Risky Business then, working on Top Gun and Rain Man, in which I believe he learned a lot from Dustin Hoffman brought him popularity. I think that being married to Nichole helped him as an actor because she got him to work on his acting chops, but after the divorce, meh.

          His couch jumping and tirade with Matt Lauer put him in the nutty class. People liked Nichole, and when he dumped her, that didn’t do him any good. The divorce from Katy helped him on his way down with the public. Don’t get me wrong, he still has a sizable audience, but he’s basically making repeats of earlier movies.

          I didn’t bother with All The Right Moves because he’s small for a high school football player, and tiny for anything but a Div. III or smaller college team.

          Being a former Marine, I’ve expressed my disdain with A Few Good Men.

          It this point, Tom Cruise in a movie fills me with ennui.

          What I really meant to talk about is how TC is viewed by the general US public: liked, but has a weird religion. Leah, on the other hand, is liked, and she’s been seen by the public much more than TC. She doesn’t have the world-wide visibility he does.in the rest of the world, but she doesn’t have the baggage he does that has put him in the weird, ageing actor category. She’s the younger, brassy, self-deprecating, funny, sensible one.

          I believe that TC is smart enough to keep his mouth shut and try to stay out of the inevitable row that’s that’s gonna break out. If he does, he’s dead meat in the U.S., at least. I hope he opens up his yap.

      • You right about Leah’s followers, they seem extremely loyal to her. If anyone can move an opinion in the right direction, it must be her. And i think DM is about to find out, that Leah is bigger than life when it comes those opinions. She is scary that way 🙂

        • Pandora’s Box

          I think your right. She is a strong lady. But, it’s got to hurt with all she’s been through. I like her and I’ll watch her show to support it.

        • Missionary Kid

          If he’s smart, and he’s not, he’ll just go silent. In that carpet question that he didn’t answer, he just started talking about $cientology instead of talking about My $cientology Movie.

          I hope he answers Leah’s show with the usual $cientology B.S., calling attention to it.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        So true, our favorite couch jumper has been most notable in his absence from the scene and seems to be distancing himself from lil davey, if not from The Tek and from Elron worship.

        I’m sure the cherch would love to trot his ass out to neutralize the Leah Remini threat, but I don’t think he’s going to do that, at least if his publicist has anything to say about it. Although no one knows exactly what the series is going to cover, I’m pretty sure the focus won’t be on her and her family’s experience in $cn anymore than any of the other ex-members that are going to be featured. If anything, her experience as a celeb in the cult was more of an insulated and pampered one, making her and her family less victimized by the cult in the direct and overt way that it has become infamous for.

        So, in that regard, $cn’s whining and smear tactics are an attempt to deflect attention away from the personal accounts of crimes and abuses that so many have suffered and on to her. However, the cult’s so inept and ham-handed at it that they’re more of a joke and something to be mocked than anything.

    • These Scientologists can not afford the luxury to see what they are causing. They’ll get in trouble in about 5 ways if one were to point out what you said. Sad, many of us have loved ones so inflicted. We have high hopes it will get so noisy out here they can’t help but see. 🙂

      • Missionary Kid

        ((((Hugs)))) Thanks for all you do.

      • Pandora’s Box

        My heart goes out to all those who have loved one that can’t be reached. Hopefully things will work out for them.

    • Chee Chalker

      Speaking of Warren Jeffs…..just watched an old 20/20 on the FLDS (from earlier this year).

      The similarities are amazing. The brainwashing. The fear of losing your family. The child labor. The control. The abuse. The weird sex stuff.
      The only difference is Warren Jeffs is very tall and
      David Miscavige is very small.

      • Pandora’s Box

        I know, right. There is an evil about them.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        I’m not a big reality TV fan, but that Escaping Polygamy show really hooked me in. There’s a lot of parallels to $cn and it’s all about how the cult makes families disconnect from those who escape that life.

        • Pandora’s Box

          Me neither. The only reality show I ever watched was Ozzy’s show years ago. But I’m interested in this subject. The movie “Going Clear” is what caught my attention. Me and a lot of others who knew nothing about Scientology.

    • Gib

      the next episode of the walking dead actually is quite good.

      It portrays a cult leader but for good, in view of the times, of the series.

      LRH is a bad dude, and so is DM.

      The Leader of the Kingdom is a good dude, so far. Made me have tears.

      • April

        IIRC Ezekiel is also a good guy in the WD comics.

      • jane456

        Weird to compare a fictional character to real people who destroy people’s lives. Just a bit odd, to me. Real cult leaders make all fictional characters look like puppy dogs.

        Little commented fact….biggest cult leaders ever (in terms of destruction).

        Stalin

        Mao

        Real life mass murdering cult leaders. They did stuff that makes all that fictional stuff look very, very, very tame.

        I think it is easier for people to process these realities through fiction. I find it interesting that human beings seem to have this need to distance themselves from atrocity like this.

    • jane456

      You could only wish. They would hate each others guts, you know. Jeffs and the midget.

      All of this propaganda is aimed at people in the cult bubble, not the rest of the world.

  • Supper Powers

    Going to watch The Shipping News. My favorite film. Night all.

    • daisy

      Night Sup, i think i watched that movie. If it has a character named petal, I named one of my dogs that.

      • Supper Powers

        It did. Sorry. Night.

        • daisy

          I am not sure why the sorry, but go and enjoy .

          • Supper Powers

            Well, Petal died in the film. I need to read more Annie Proux.

            • daisy

              Oh i didn*t remember. I need to read more, period. i am watching too much CNN.

            • beauty for ashes

              I knew a mechanic who watched too much Lifetime Movie Channel. It could be worse. 😉

            • Supper Powers

              ^^^ ha!

    • beauty for ashes

      that book.

      “As a hot mouth warms a cold spoon, Petal warmed Quoyle. He stumbled away from his rented trailer, his mess of dirty laundry and empty ravioli cans, to painful love, his heart scarred forever by tattoo needles pricking the name of Petal Bear.
      There was a month of fiery happiness, followed by six years of kinked suffering.” ~Annie Proulx

      • daisy

        i hope you are having a better day. (((( hugs anyway ))))

        • beauty for ashes

          (((((((((((((HUGS)))))))))))) I showed up an hour and a half early for an appt. I was impressed I got the day right at least!

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Oh darn. OT but I left my copy of Steve Cannane’s Fair Game on the airplane. That’s dissemination! I guess I will buy it again, and give him a bit more royalties.

  • M from Toronto

    I can’t add anything new; everything The Proprietor and the posters have pointed out is what will resonate with the public. Leah speaking to interesting people with terrible stories to tell, and, well, being herself, VS the CO$ response to that will make ‘the public’ think. Seriously Dainty Misanthrope, just trust me, no rando is thinking “Wow, these statements from the CO$ make them sound like really nice, perfectly sane folks who want to improve society!”
    I get that they’re really aiming all of this at the die hard members and their Whales when they do this, and hey, now that Mimi is out of the way, perhaps Tommy can get James Packer to cough up serious dough… but… you can only bleed a handful of stones so much, and without new infusions of cash and memberships, this isn’t going to ‘make it go right’.
    This boulder has too much momentum.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bpn9daBzjIs

    • Mymy88

      This song and video is awesome! All the symbolism is awesome also, even though I have not figured a lot of it out yet.

  • Gus_Cox

    “…circulated by the same tiny clique of expelled former staffers bitter at having lost the positions they enjoyed before their malfeasance and unethical conduct were uncovered.”

    Oh, COB… Surely you know there are more ex-clams than clams, right? That’s some tiny clique, Tiny Dick.

  • LongtimeLurker
    • Mymy88

      Yo escucharé ahora.

      Muy bonita.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Si!

        • Mymy88

          Mis noches de verano están llenas de este tipo de música. Me parece muy relajante.

          ETA: Translation: My summer nights are filled with this kind of music. I find it very relaxing.

          *I don’t speak much Spanish but Google Translate does hee hee.

          My next door neighbors do not speak English so I use the translator a lot to write them notes but their children can speak Enlgish so that helps too.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Soy celosa. Esta música, mi he disfrutado durante años.

            • Mymy88

              Hey great. I hope you feel like sharing more of that kind of music in the future. I often hear something I love but I have no idea what the name of the song is or who the musician is or anything because… it’s all in Spanish!

            • LongtimeLurker

              I will.
              ———–
              You need that Shazam app.

              You could hold your phone out the window, and it will identify the song for you.

              Maybe. Because it doesn’t always work.

              Could be worth a try, though.

          • LongtimeLurker

            I like it too.

            I did a crash Spanish course to go to Mexico a few years ago.

            But none of it has stuck, unfortunately.

            • Mymy88

              Re-posted and edited (because it got tagged for spam – what is that about? Anyway, here it is shorter and sweeter and a little less descriptive lol.)

              My next-door neighbors play this type of music, especially in the evenings in the summers and when they have parties on the weekends the music will go late into the night.

              I always open my bedroom window and I feel so lucky to be able to fall asleep to this
              wonderful music AND Mexican / Spanish / Latino (I’m not sure what the politically correct term is to describe it) ballads are the most beautiful songs in the world too me. OMG and they also have karaoke and sometimes they play their own music and it’s just so freaking awesome!

            • LongtimeLurker

              That sounds lovely. : )

              That spam thing is weird.

    • Supper Powers

      Breakah ma heart, it reminds me of one of my favorite songs by Beck. Before I realized that most of the money I gave him for his talent was promptly turned over to COB. I’m adding the song for reference. Don’t click on it if you don’t want to encourage him or his fans. 🙁

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=-RxpvZTVIOs

  • What’sup

    Number of professional Rugby League players recruited by Scientology = 4

    Number of professional Aussie Rules players recruited by Scientology = 0

    Number of people surprised by this = 0

    • LongtimeLurker

      I don’t want to say anything negative about rugby. One of my bunker friends played it.

      Also, lots of our exes here are smart people.
      .
      .
      .
      .
      …but yep. Zero surprise.

      • What’sup

        No disrespect intended.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Of course.

          Some Rugby players, I assume, are Homo Sapiens.

          The rest…

          • What’sup

            Union is a game for the educated, played in some of finest learning institutions on earth.

            League…….not so much.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Where did you get the stats, btw?

            • What’sup

              Cannane’s book. 3 of those joined the sea org.

              Was it Unex sckus who played Rugby?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Ahh…I think I remember reading about one of those.

              Shit. I can’t for the life of me remember who the Rugby player was.

              US though. Not that that helps all that much.

            • What’sup

              Yes, Chris Guilder married Danny Masterson’s mother. Quite well known.

            • Ella Raitch

              It was Joe Reaiche that has the married Masterson’s mum and who is father to actress Alannah Masterson

            • What’sup

              Oh….right you are.

            • Ella Raitch

              I know my gossip!

            • What’sup

              You are wise.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Did he have anything to do with raising Danny? Or was that damage pre-Reaiche?*

              *Buy another consonant Joe, and stick it somewhere between the ‘r’ and the ‘c’, mate.

            • Ella Raitch

              He married Carol when she had the boys, then they had Alanna and another son together.

              He lost everyone when he left Scientology

              http://tonyortega.org/2013/07/07/alanna-mastersons-dad-calls-connor-cruise-worst-person-in-the-world-for-her-to-date/

            • LongtimeLurker

              Haven’t read that one yet. Thanks doll.

  • jane456

    Slightly OT…..Going Clear is now playing on Netflix. For anyone who hasn’t seen it.

    Maybe it will help Leah’s program.

    • Missionary Kid

      Cross promotion is always good.

  • Mymy88

    Time for me and my little Chihuahua to go night night. That’s him and his baby stuffed cow named Cow Cow. G’night! https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b97933667f39dad39ff541ba8372a8b52ff04daaa2a0635f18660d190edd5f48.jpg [refresh]

    • LongtimeLurker

      Aww…look at the little guy.

      G’night.

    • Juicer77

      *cuddles*

      • Mymy88

        Oh yes indeed, very cuddly. He wakes me up in the middle of the night if he takes the notion he wants his tummy scratched. I think I’ve already created a monster but he’s such a cute one, it’s worth it.

        • Juicer77

          So worth it.

  • Jesus! That Leah vid on my channel had almost 10.000 views since this morning. Hoping to get the rest of the numbers later today.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Congrats!

      Are you Dice No More?

      • yes!

        • LongtimeLurker

          That’s funny.

          The past couple of hours, YouTube has put you at the top of my “recommended for you” list.

          You’re trending baby!

          • aha?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, I watched Panopea’s most recent video. And then, in recommendations, amongst my usual dash-cam clips, film bloopers and old 80s songs, your channel started to show up.

          • The “Analytics” on that vid, don’t show anything else than the view number, but on my Youtube Studio (an app for Android) shows a whole lot more. I need to verify where those views are coming from. Of course 80% is coming from Tony’s link but it could also be because i am still the only one who has ripped and uploaded this vid to youtube.

  • Dave Reams

    This Scientology space opera is building to its climactic battle and victory act: Princess Leah and the rebel slliance have launched their fleet to destroy the dwarf star. Who knows even hand job solo may rejoin the fight?

    • Graham

      It’s not often I literally LOL, but Hand Job Solo had me laughing.

  • Mockingbird

    I found someone who credits Scientology with increased confidence and ability. Charles Manson.

    Here’s a quote from his 1967 book Manson in His Own Words: “A cell partner turned me on to Scientology. With him and another guy, I got pretty heavy into Dianetics and Scientology. Through this and by other studies, I came out of my state of depression. I was understanding myself better, had a positive outlook on life, and knew how to direct my energies to each day and each task.” There you go. A Scientology success story.

    • What’sup

      Wasn’t he also quoted as saying ” That Scientology was a little too crazy for me”……or something to that end.

      • Mockingbird

        I have seen the meme but it may be a joke.

    • Juicer77

      That seems an awfully coherent statement from this guy. Wonder who helped him write it? BTW, Vince Bugliosi mentions this in the book Helter Skelter (about prosecuting the Manson family for murder). He had access to the defendant, of course, and met with him, and the wardens in Manson’s prison told Bugliosi they were glad Manson found something to keep him busy!

      • Mockingbird

        Unfortunately he credits it with helping him to progress to murder.

    • Spike Robinson
      • Mockingbird

        Great meme.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Don’t forget about Manson Family member Bruce Davis, he’s another CO$ “success” story.

      • you mean a follower?

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Coincidentally I was just reading about CO$ murders and connections to the Manson family a few weeks ago. According to several websites, “Davis spent more time on Scientology than Manson ever did. He was actually a member of the Foundation Staff at Saint Hill (Scientology’s Head Office in the United Kingdom) from 1968 up until April 1969. That’s when he was officially sacked (for drug use), but Davis clearly maintained some connections with the group right up until he himself was arrested for murder. So it doesn’t surprise me that he would take advantage of a Scientology center just outside London, if only for the sake of free housing.”

          He was suspected of a murder in England as well as 2 young clams (James Sharpe & Doreen Gaul) in LA. He hung out at Thetan Manor where Gaul lived. Some claim he might have also been the Zodiac killer. ETA: This is in addition to the Manson murders he was convicted of.

          • ffs – nice types! 🙂

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              “Still, the Church got touchy when asked for membership lists. It was left to other residents to inform the police that Bruce Davis had spent a lot of time in the very same communal house (Thetan Manor at 1032 S. Bonnie Brae) as Doreen Gaul, and had, in fact, dated Doreen along with several other young women. Witnesses said Davis was extremely angry when he found out that she was seeing a black man at the same time, owing to the prejudice against blacks he shared with Manson.

              When questioned later, after acquiring two life sentences, Davis was offered immunity but denied even knowing Doreen, although he did admit to being intimate with nine other girls at the same address.”

              One website said that they had an e-meter at Spahn or Barker ranch (I can’t recall which one) where the Manson Family was living. I’ve never heard that before and I wonder if that is true.

            • This is another rabbit hole i haven’t been too, maybe some day. It could be that this is one big taboo everyone is trying to avoid. I only picked up this website last night: http://bernie.cncfamily.com/sc/Manson_Bruce_Davis.htm

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Yeah, I fell down that rabbit hole. Here’s another website: https://macewen2013.wordpress.com/2014/11/06/a-hell-of-a-hoax-part-9-the-other-scientology-murders/
              And there was another crazy cult that was an off-shoot of CO$ at that time called “The Process (Church of the Final Judgment)” You can’t make this stuff up! :O

            • i also get around odd links in my cult searching… like this one http://www.killology.com/

      • Mockingbird

        Yes. Another one.

    • guess a mind like his, got validated.

    • kemist

      “… knew how to direct my energy to each day and each task.”

      Yeah, when you torture and kill that many people, you gotta be a good planner.

      • Mockingbird

        Sick. That’s a Scientology product.

  • Fink Jonas

    “The leader of the Church of Scientology and his wife”
    They make it sound so respectable as if they really care about their wives or the sanctity of marriage when we all know Knoledge reporting tears families apart and they can care less about their wives, they can go to jail or to hell when the time comes and they would care less.

  • LongtimeLurker
    • Snippy_X

      Whoops – cranked it and took a few minutes to realize the headphones were plugged into the other computer. That messed up some dreams around here. 😀

      • LongtimeLurker

        Oh dear.

        Sorry. Hope it didn’t take you the whole 17+ minutes.

        • Snippy_X

          No jsut a few. duh. It’s all good.

  • smew

    The only thing the video clips prove is how much more lovely Ms. Remini has grown over the years.

    Hey, does COS pay for every time someone opens that ad? *warms up clicking finger*

  • Asillem4

    [que music] *Oscar Meyer Weiner*

    Oh, I’m glad I’m not David Miscavige
    He is who I’d truly hate to be-e-e
    ’cause if I were David Miscavige
    I’d be terrified of Leah Remini