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Disconnection, Miscavige style: How Scientology’s most powerful family came apart

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[Ron Miscavige and his twin children, David and Denise]

 
Whitney Covington was arrested Friday night by police in Clearwater, Florida, and booked into the Pinellas County jail on misdemeanor charges of soliciting prostitution and possession of drug paraphernalia.

It surprised no one who knew her.

Ms. Covington, 29, has been booked into the Pinellas County jail at least six times in the last decade, and her family has grown increasingly frustrated with her inability to keep herself out of trouble.

Well, at least the part of the family that still has anything to do with her.

Whitney Covington grew up a Scientologist. Her uncle is David Miscavige, the supreme leader of the Church of Scientology. And her mother, David’s twin sister Denise Gentile, disconnected from Whitney several years ago.

“Disconnection” is a Scientology policy that has been getting a lot of attention lately. You may have read about a Las Vegas couple, Phil and Willie Jones, who recently paid for a billboard in the Echo Park section of Los Angeles, asking Scientologists to call the loved ones they’ve been forced to separate from. The billboard got massive press attention, and helped raise the public’s awareness that many Scientology families have been torn apart by David Miscavige and his insistence that church members cut off all ties from people that have left the organization — even if it means splitting apart parent and child.

What’s less well known is how disconnection has affected David Miscavige’s own family.

Scientology, disconnection, and the Miscavige family will be taking center stage on May 3 with the publication of a book by Whitney Covington’s grandfather, a man named Ron Miscavige. Written with former Church of Scientology member Dan Koon, Ron’s book is titled Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me.

Ron will be talking to ABC’s Dan Harris as part of a full hour that 20/20 is dedicating to Scientology next Friday night, April 29. One of the things you’re likely to hear is that Ron decided to write his book specifically because of the way Scientology’s disconnection separated him from his daughters. We’ve learned about that from members of the family and close friends who have had to deal with the fallout of a dramatic series of events that have torn the Miscavige family apart.

One of the people seemingly spinning out of control in that wreckage is Whitney Covington, whose troubles with the law started while she was still in her teens. She was charged twice in 2006 after DUI arrests in March and April that year. She was only 19. Three times, in 2010 and twice in 2012, she was arrested and charged with grand theft and dealing in stolen property. One of those incidents resulted in an 18-month prison stay.

We wanted to call Whitney Covington, but her most recent phone is turned off. She used another person’s phone to send a text to the part of the family that still talks to her. That’s her father, Robert Covington, and her stepmother, Heather Covington.

Just a week before this most recent arrest, Whitney asked to stay with her father and stepmother. Heather tells us she offered a deal: If Whitney took a drug test, they would pay to put her up in a three-month (non-Scientology affiliated) rehab program. Heather says she didn’t get a reply, and then she heard that Whitney had been arrested again.

“Whitney is homeless. Her own mother, Denise, disconnected from her because Scientology told her to,” Heather tells us. “I thought Denise disconnecting from her father was bad, but disconnecting from her own daughter is really low.”

In a series of conversations we’ve had with Heather and others, we’ve been able to piece together a picture of the chaos in the Miscavige family that serves as the background for Ron’s upcoming, and likely explosive, book.

 
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[Robert and Heather Covington]

 
Heather and Robert Covington were married in 2004 and each brought children from previous marriages to the new family. They have a child of their own, their son Ayden, 11. And Heather tells us that for the first decade of her marriage she and her husband were very close with Robert’s ex, Denise, and Denise’s children. Robert Covington and Denise Miscavige were married from 1985 to 1995, and they had two daughters — Taylor, 31, and Whitney, 29.

When Heather met Robert, she was working for Scientologists in a Clearwater dental office that served a lot of local Scientologist families. She says she couldn’t help noticing that Scientologist kids tended to run wild, and it bothered her.

Robert, meanwhile, had moved to Clearwater from New Hampshire after the death of his second wife to breast cancer.

“When I met Robert, I didn’t know he was a Scientologist, not for the first seven months. I first heard it from friends,” Heather says. “I asked him, Are you a Scientologist? Are your kids crazy?” she says with a laugh.

Heather had a son from a previous marriage. Besides his two daughters with Denise Miscavige, Robert had two other children from his second marriage. And Heather began to realize that being married to Bob Covington not only meant being part of a large extended family, but also becoming part of an exclusive Scientology clique.

“He was still best friends with Denise. All of us hung out together. We’d go to the L. Ron Hubbard Birthday Event in March. We were involved with his ex-wife and her kids,” Heather says. And that also included being involved with Denise’s younger sister, Lori Miscavige, who had married Edward Verneuille, who supplied Robert Covington with some of his work as a contractor. They also saw David Miscavige, though not as frequently. And they were close to the patriarch of the family, Ron Miscavige.

Ron gave us some idea of his own background in two slim self-published collections of yarns that he put out in 2013 and 2014. He described growing up in the town of Mt. Carmel, Pennsylvania, and seemed in awe that he’d even survived his childhood, the way he played with sticks of dynamite and a .22 rifle that had a tendency to explode in his face.

As young as 13, Ron was playing trumpet professionally in local bars, and buying beers for a dime a glass. And one of his anecdotes we found particularly entertaining. After a stint in the Marines, and after he’d married his first wife, Loretta, he built a fenced-in area in his backyard so his young twins, David and Denise, could run around without getting away. But then, without a hesitation, the youngsters easily scaled his enclosure.

We found that anecdote ironic: In March 2012, Ron and his second wife, Becky Bigelow, made their own escape from an enclosure built by Ron’s son, David Miscavige.

We learned in July of that year that Ron had escaped from Scientology’s Int Base near Hemet, and we’re still very much looking forward to reading in his book how he managed to pull it off.

In the early 1970s, Ron had looked into Scientology originally because he was looking for something to help with his son David’s asthma. Their initial encounters with the organization and its techniques seemed to help, so then the family dove into Scientology wholeheartedly. David dropped out of high school on his 16th birthday, and Ron took the family to Saint Hill Manor in England so David could train as an auditor.

Back in the US in the late 1970s, David worked in close proximity to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, who had moved to the California desert and was experimenting with making films — the young Miscavige became a camera operator as his long climb in Scientology’s management began. Hubbard died in 1986, and Miscavige thrust himself, unelected, into the leadership of the organization. Another thing we’re looking forward to reading in Ron’s book is his description of watching his son’s rise to power.

While David ran Scientology, Ron spent his time in the “Sea Org” as a musician, performing in Scientology’s many events and videos. All reports we’ve heard from people who worked with Ron tell us he was well liked and popular in the organization. We’re interested in reading in Ruthless how Ron’s own disaffection grew, leading him to make his 2012 escape from the base.

Heather Covington tells us that after Ron and Becky made their run to freedom, his daughters reacted in different ways. Denise continued to talk to him, but Lori shut him down, Heather says. The Covingtons, meanwhile, were thrilled to hear from Ron, and hoped to see him soon. And then, about a year later, things began to come to a head.

 
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[Mike Rinder and Christie Collbran get married on June 22, 2013]

 
For several years, Robert Covington had been working for an attorney named Betsy Steg and her husband Jim. Betsy had worked for 20 years in the Pinellas County district attorney’s office, and she relied on Robert to help her keep up an historic 12-bedroom 1900 house she owned on the intracoastal waterway.

“Bob did pretty much everything — repairs and updates,” Betsy tells us. “Bob was like my right hand man at the house. He does a lot of good work there at the property.”

Meanwhile, Betsy was interested in the latest news about Scientology because of where she lived, in among one of the main concentrations of Scientologists in the world. (Betsy has never been a Scientologist herself.) One day, she left a comment on Marty Rathbun’s blog, and signed it as “ClearwaterLawyer.”

That piqued the interest of Mike Rinder, Scientology’s former spokesman, who reached out to Betsy, asking if she really was a lawyer in Clearwater. “Hey, you never know when I might need a lawyer here in town,” Rinder says today, with a laugh.

Rinder arranged to meet Betsy Steg, and over several years they became good friends. And when Rinder mentioned in 2013 that he and Christie Collbran were looking for a place to get married, Betsy offered the use of her big house on the intracoastal.

“Betsy and Jim gave it to us as a wedding gift. It slept like 30 people, so many of the out-of-town people stayed there,” Rinder says.

“It’s a great place to get married. It has beautiful sunsets every night,” Betsy says. Karen de la Carriere, one of the guests, caught the view from the house in the photo seen above.

Then, just a week later, a bomb went off in the local newspaper: Tampa Bay Times reporter Joe Childs revealed that Denise Gentile had been arrested for DUI and marijuana charges and for taking marijuana “blunts” as payment from her rental tenants.

“Gentile, of Clearwater, is a well-known Scientologist and the twin sister of the church’s worldwide leader, David Miscavige,” Childs wrote. “Her marijuana arrest is messy for the church because Scientologists have zero tolerance for mind-altering substances. They believe street drugs and psychiatric medicines make spiritual growth impossible.”

It was not only messy for the church, but also for the extended Miscavige family.

“Everyone was trying to keep it from us, but I have so many friends on Facebook, I heard about it,” Heather Covington says. “You can see in her mug shot that she was so high. I used to go and collect rent down at those places, so right away I totally believed it. The family was saying it was all a plot to get Scientology. No, I said, Denise just drinks too much.”

The Tampa Bay Times article laid out an ugly recitation of Denise’s past. In the mid-1990s, she had used her clout to get a job with a Scientologist-run technology company at $123,000 a year, even though she hadn’t gone to college. She was then named in a scandal at the firm, when she was connected to partially-filled boxes that had been shipped in order to give the impression that the company was selling more product than it actually was. Despite her role in the fiasco, she managed to negotiate a severance package that included a year’s salary and forgiveness of a $71,000 loan.

Later, she became an auditor at the Flag Land Base, when she was connected to another ugly incident. As Childs described it…

In 2006, Denise started taking classes at Flag to become an auditor again. One of the people she audited during training was Scientologist Tom Brennan, a handyman who worked at her rentals. In February 2007, Brennan told Denise he was concerned about his son, Kyle, 20, who was visiting from Virginia. Kyle didn’t look good and had been seeing a psychiatrist, he told Denise. Scientologists believe psychiatry and psychotropic drugs are evil — like street drugs. Denise thought Kyle may have gotten hooked on street drugs. Brennan and Denise phoned Kyle’s mother and urged her to send him to Narconon, the drug treatment program affiliated with the church. Kyle’s mother refused. (All of this was later recounted in sworn testimony from Denise and Brennan.) Thomas Brennan locked Kyle’s antidepressant medication, Lexapro, in his car trunk. Brennan later found Kyle dead of a gunshot wound in his apartment. The first person Brennan called was Denise Gentile. Then he called 911.

Clearwater police ruled the death a suicide. Kyle’s mother, who is not a Scientologist, filed a wrongful death lawsuit against the Gentiles, Brennan and Scientology’s Flag Service Organization. She alleged the Gentiles persuaded Brennan to take away Kyle’s medication, contributing to his death. The suit was dismissed in 2011, in part because Brennan said his son voluntarily turned over his medicine.

And now Denise was caught up in scandal again, described as a drunk landlord who would take marijuana blunts in lieu of rent. It was a devastating portrait drawn by Childs. A week later, we reported, Denise pleaded guilty to a lesser charge of reckless driving.

But more collisions were soon to come.

 
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[Denise (left) and Lori Miscavige, around the year 2000]

 
The Covingtons did not attend the Rinder wedding. But a few months later — in late August or early September 2013, Heather Covington remembers — her husband Bob received a call from his ex-wife, Denise.

“She told us, ‘You guys can no longer be friends with Betsy Steg. She’s an SP.’ And then, Peter Mansell called us from OSA. ‘I need you guys to come down right away,’ he said.”

Mansell’s name may be familiar to our readers. He testified in the Luis and Rocio Garcia federal fraud lawsuit against Scientology in 2013, identifying himself as the head of the Office of Special Affairs at the Flag Land Base, Scientology’s set of buildings in Clearwater. OSA is Scientology’s public relations and intelligence wing, and it runs overt and covert operations against Scientology’s perceived enemies. Mike Rinder himself once oversaw OSA, and has been a frequent target of its surveillance schemes since he left the church in 2007.

We’ve reported in the past how anyone who comes in contact with Rinder, or helps him out in some way, is then branded an enemy of the church by Scientology. Nick Lister, for example, was friendly with someone who was a friend to Rinder, and that was a close enough connection that the church tried to force Nick’s mother, Sara Goldberg, to abandon her son. Her story about that is a key moment in Alex Gibney’s movie Going Clear. Another man, a former Scientologist named Robert Almblad, at one time employed Rinder. We wrote two stories about the extreme lengths Scientology went to in order to disrupt Almblad’s business as retaliation for giving Rinder work.

Now, Betsy Steg had given Rinder and Christie Collbran a nice house to use for a wedding, and that made her an “SP” — a suppressive person, what Scientology labels anyone it considers antagonistic to the church.

After Mansell’s phone call, Heather and Bob Covington went to the Fort Harrison Hotel, the centerpiece of “Flag,” and were taken to a large conference room.

“Peter brought out a box. There was another man and a woman there, but we didn’t know their names. They started pulling out these papers, telling us that Betsy was trying to take down the church, and we couldn’t be around an SP like that,” Heather says. “But Bob had worked for Betsy for years. Why should he give up such a good job just because they didn’t like her? That’s what I was thinking.”

Heather says they told Mansell that he had no proof that Betsy was trying to harm the church. Mansell said he did have proof, and brought out numerous documents about Betsy Steg as well as photos of her. (In a funny coincidence, we determined after having Heather describe the photos to Betsy that the photos were taken when your proprietor made a visit to Clearwater in March 2012. Mike Rinder took us to the Starbucks on Fort Harrison Ave, just a couple of blocks from the Fort Harrison Hotel, and we met for the first time Betsy Steg and Gayle Smith, whose story we later told for this website. That meeting, we now learn, was photographed for Scientology’s files.)

“They told us, you cannot be friends with her anymore. You can’t work for her. You can’t call her. I looked at Bob and thought, who are these people who think they can tell us this?” Heather says. “Peter had said they would get Bob lots of jobs to make up for it. Sure, they would. We were in there for like three hours.”

Meanwhile, around the same time, Mansell also paid a visit to Betsy Steg’s house.

“Two people came to the door and told me they were Scientologists,” Betsy tell us. “It was a man and a woman, the man was Peter Mansell.”

She points out that she lives in a gated community, and she doesn’t know how the two got on to her property.

“They said that they knew that Mike had used our house for his wedding. They told me I was an enemy of the church, and that they were going to tell all the Scientologists in Clearwater that I’d let Mike use the property for his wedding. Basically, he just threatened me.”

Betsy says she didn’t hear from them again after that. But she soon heard that the Covingtons were being told to stay away from her.

“I know that Bob was being ordered to disconnect from me. I felt bad because we’d worked together so long and we’re good friends. I didn’t like to see him go through this because of me,” Betsy adds. “They’re such good people and he does such good work. I feel bad that now a big part of his life has been disconnected from him. Just picked up and swept away. The mother of his children won’t talk to him anymore.”

 
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[Whitney Covington’s Pinellas County jail mug shots, 2006-2012]

 
After their meeting with Peter Mansell at Flag, the Covingtons refused to disconnect from Betsy Steg. And at first, there didn’t seem to be any larger repercussions from it. That Christmas, Bob and Heather still celebrated with Denise Gentile.

But by March 2014, it was becoming obvious, Heather says, that Denise, her sister Lori, and Denise’s daughter Taylor Covington were cutting off all contact with Robert and Heather Covington and their children. And for Taylor, it meant disconnecting from her own father.

“At the end of March,” Heather says, “Taylor did call and asked for some things from her dad. So Bob brought them to her, and Bob said she just put her head down [avoiding eye contact].”

Heather says Taylor said something then that stunned both of the Covingtons. Taylor told her father that she had a problem not only that he was still talking to Betsy Steg, but that he was also talking to someone else.

Taylor said she had a problem that Bob and Heather were still connected to someone she called “Pop Pop.”

It was her first indication, Heather says, that a split was also developing between the families of Denise and Lori Miscavige and their father, Ron Miscavige, who is called ‘Pop Pop’ by the children in the extended clan.

“Taylor told us we shouldn’t be talking to Ron, her own grandfather,” Heather says. And not long after that, Ron Miscavige, who had been close to the Covingtons, made a telling telephone call.

“He asked if we speak to Denise. No, I told him, no one talks to Denise.”

Then, in the summer, the Covingtons went on vacation.

Monday, August 25, 2014 was the first day of a planned getaway for the Covingtons in a place they loved. Fontana Lake in North Carolina, a reservoir formed on the dammed Little Tennessee River, is a recreation destination in the summer months, especially for an outdoorsy family like the Covingtons. And on their first day of that 2014 vacation, Heather Covington’s son Brock wanted to go for a ride on a jet boat.

The family paid for a guided tour from Smoky Mountain Jetboats, and piled in to the sleek green vessel. Heather and Bob were joined by Brock, Bob’s daughter Sydney, and the Covington’s youngest, their son Ayden.

The tour guide jetted out on the water, and Heather was more concerned than thrilled. She didn’t want to be a spoilsport, she says, but she thought the driver was going recklessly fast, and too close to shore.

Then, it was clear that they were heading for serious trouble.

“We slammed into the side of the mountain at 50 to 55 miles per hour,” Heather says.

Heather and her young son got the worst of it. She was taken to a hospital in an ambulance with a cracked kneecap. Ayden had to be helicoptered to help.

“He died three times,” Heather says. “He had 30 fractures in his face. He was in a level seven coma. He had a concussion, and he lost four front teeth. He lost a lot of blood. He spent seven days in the trauma center.”

Denise Miscavige, before disconnecting from the Covingtons, had been Ayden’s godmother.

“They didn’t even contact us after the accident,” Heather says, sounding disgusted.

For Heather, it drove home how destructive the disconnection policy was.

We asked Mike Rinder, the former top Scientology spokesman, is there any doubt that David Miscavige himself, who has a history of banishing people, would have ordered his sisters to cut off all ties from the other members of the family?

“Oh, absolutely. There’s no doubt. There are certain people who nobody would dare take steps against or mess with unless it was ordered by him. And that list includes anything to do with Marty Rathbun. Anything to do with me. Anything to do with Ron. Leah Remini would fall into that category. Probably Joe Childs and Tom Tobin of the Tampa Bay Times,” he says. “I’m just saying there are some people that I promise you nothing happens to unless David Miscavige directly orders or signed off on it and has authorized in detail what was going to be done.

“Because Betsy Steg was associated with me, that makes her a target. And in Clearwater, she’s always been a bit of a mover and shaker. Her husband, Jim Steg, is very well known here. And Dave doesn’t want people messing around with his PR control of the City of Clearwater,” Rinder adds. “There are things no one would mess with without Dave’s involvement. and Betsy ended up in the center of a number of those things.

“She’s such a nice lady. They’ve made, per usual, an enemy out of her.”

 
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[What was left of the jet boat that nearly killed Ayden Covington]

 
Heather Covington says that the family had just arrived back in Florida after their North Carolina hospital stays, in September 2014, when they heard from Ron Miscavige.

Ron said he wanted to make a visit to Florida and asked to stay with Bob and Heather Covington in Clearwater. Of course he was welcome, Heather told him.

Ron and his wife Becky Bigelow arrived from Wisconsin with stalkers in tow. “My kids had fun with the private investigators following them around,” Heather says.

One night during the visit, Ron brought out a set of audio tapes. They were recordings of police interviews with two suspects, a father and son team of private investigators, who had confessed to following Ron Miscavige on behalf of Ron’s son, David Miscavige and the Church of Scientology.

The public would hear about those recordings seven months later when news about them broke in the Los Angeles Times. The two private eyes, Dwayne and Daniel Powell, had been questioned by police, who found an arsenal of weapons and ammunition in the back of their SUV. But what really got them in hot water was a homemade silencer made from PVC tubing — Dwayne Powell was facing 10 years in federal prison for that illegal item. So the two of them spilled their guts, explaining that for months they had been tailing Ron Miscavige twelve hours a day at $10,000 a week and reporting everything they saw back to an intermediary who passed it on to the Church of Scientology.

In the most infamous incident from the recordings, the Powells described seeing Ron clutch at his chest, and it looked like Ron, who was then 77 years old, might be having a heart attack. (He was actually fumbling for a smartphone in his shirt pocket.) When they called their handler for instructions, they said that David Miscavige himself came on the line and told them to do nothing. “If he dies, he dies,” Miscavige reportedly said. (The Church of Scientology has denied everything about the report, calling it “provable bullshit,” but hasn’t offered any proof of that.)

“We heard about the private investigators, and all the guns in the back of their car,” Heather says. “I was shocked. Why are they doing that? Why are they following you around? Are they crazy?”

With his family falling apart, Ron wanted his daughters to hear about the private investigators, to hear who was really behind what was going on that was splitting them all up.

“He wanted Denise and Lori to hear these tapes,” Heather says.

So, on the fourth day of their visit with the Covingtons in September 2014, Ron and Becky paid the visit that was the reason for their trip, driving to the Clearwater home of Denise and her husband Gerald Gentile.

“Jerry opened the door and said she didn’t want to see him,” Heather tells us.

Ron told his son-in-law that he wanted to tell Denise “his side of the story,” but Denise wouldn’t come to the door. When Ron asked Jerry about it, he was told that Denise didn’t want to hear from him.

“They came back to our house, where we were having a barbecue,” Heather says. Ron told them what had happened, that his own daughter wanted no communication with him. Ever.

“And then he said, ‘You know what? I’m going to write that book.’

“We said, yeah! You need to write that book,” Heather says.

And at that point, Ron Miscavige made a phone call that would prove to have huge implications for the Church of Scientology.

Tomorrow, we’re going to tell you all about it.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 20, 2016 at 07:00

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  • Saint

    Does anyone have a link for a printable “call me” graphic? I’m lazy.

  • Richard

    When I clicked on the Bunker yesterday, the home screen showed just David Miscavige’s hair before scrolling down to see the full image. However I immediately recognized it was him.

    But what are all you Bunker SPs like at recognizing Homo Novis’ hair? Do you really know your clams?

    Try naming these seven celebrity Operating Thetans.

    The answers are in a second post.

    • Richard

      1 Bob Duggan

      2 Danny Masterson

      3 Grant Cardone

      4 John Travolta

      5 Nancy Cartwright

      6 Chick Corea

      7 Ron Hubbard

      0 We would rather have you dead than an SP dilettante!

      1-3 You still don’t know your clams from your winkles!

      4-6 Tonight it’s spaghetti with vongole!

      7 If I were you, I wouldn’t boast too much to your spouse. They’re already convinced you’re spending too much time on the Bunker!

      • flyonthewall

        u have to give people a chance to guess before giving them the answers!

        • Richard

          Well you don’t have to look at the answers!

          • flyonthewall

            *facepalm* lol

    • flyonthewall

      2 – Masterson
      4 – Travolta
      5 – Cartwright
      7 – Hubbard

  • State of Maryland Resident

    Thank you Mr. Miscavige for your book – I am sure this is one of the hardest things to do but you will help so many and for that you are very brave.
    I know this is off topic but viewing current videos of David Miscavige – does anyone know what is wrong with his face – now I was taught to never pick on someone’s appearance but what the hell is going on – looks like a large amount of botox or some sort of surgery — anyone know/??/

    • flyonthewall

      I think he’s got banneritis or something idk. I don’t think botox causes a big black box with txt to appear on your face. It’s weird for sure. f5

      • vicariousthrill

        heheheheh, banneritis! you go, fly.

  • RK

    Miscavige sends his wife off to some remote location, has his father followed, orders members of the family to disconnect from and abandon each other, and sends goons to attack and threaten their non-Scientologist friends, creating enemies in the community. Scientology working its magic.

    I am so glad that my children were not adults when I left Scientology and we were able to leave as an intact family. People contact me periodically and ask me to try Scientology again. Every time I consider what is at risk – relationships with my family, my children – and I decline. No religion or group is worth gambling that away.

  • Sherbet

    Rhetorical question: How do Clearwater scis NOT know about Denise’s and Whitney’s arrests? It’s not a matter of looking at the bad, bad Internet. They’d know if they picked up a newspaper.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Looks something like this:

      • Sherbet

        Yes, I can imagine that’s how they read that suppressive rag, the Tampa Bay Times.

  • Jgg2012

    The Miscavige family, in many ways, resembles LRH’s family, whose members mostly left Scientology and mostly disconnected from him. Neither of them had successful marriages.

    • Bob Crouch

      Which in turn sounds a lot like Cruise. So much for the super powers of the master race!

  • Alex De Valera

    Fascinating. Spellbinding, there is the material to write a 21rst century Broadway musical! Thank youTony, Is is amazing how all these stores are intertwined.

    • Techie

      Could be a musical, to me it is more like one of the classic Shakespearean tragedies. Like “Macbeth”, where the last scene is where everybody dies. I admit, it would also work as a soap opera in the tradition of “Dark Shadows”.

    • chukicita

      Oh please not a musical. I couldn’t bear Scientological choreography!

  • Kay

    Poor Whitney…..those booking photos. Sad.

  • KingofSweden

    Damn it, Ortega, you’re killing me with the suspense!!!
    Flow, time, flow … until the next chapter comes tommorow morning!!!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      It will be noon tomorrow when the next instalment lands. My boss will let out a huge sigh as I reach behind me to flick the kettle on, fire up the Bunker and ignore all phone calls for as long as it takes.

      • TexasBroad

        I set my alarm for 40 minutes earlier than i would have to if i wasnt a Bunker addict so I can prepare everything that needs to get done to get my son to school finished by Tony’s post at 6am. I wake my boy at 5:55 and he knows I’m in the Bunker if he needs me.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Such a damaged family. I feel badly for Whitney, who really needs some knife of support or services to help her. She is young and doesn’t deserve to have her life destroyed by this evil organization.

  • Frodis73

    Let’s have a music break…this song always cheers me up because it makes me think of Weeds, makes me want to dance and this magic pipe thing is weird as hell.
    End disconnection and everybody dance.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tHlDfejCHkc

  • nottrue

    Moral of the Story = If your son has asthma take him to a real doctor

  • flyonthewall

    there’s some kind of annoying weird electronic noise coming from outside. It sounds like a cheap casio keyboard that is dying. I’m too lazy to go find out wth it is. No I’m not, this is ridiculous, brb

    • Sherbet

      Translation: Fly is caught in an electronic incident.

      • flyonthewall

        there was an electronic incident within the electronic incident though! It was coming from the girls’ room, not outside. It’s a shit mess in there but as soon as I started digging around and getting close to it, it stopped. For now…

        • Sherbet

          Advance at your own risk.

        • Robert Eckert

          Now that springtime has come to the Grosse Pointes, the leaf blowers, lawn mowers, weed whackers, hedge trimmers, and other mysterious noisy machines are out in full force, giving me a migraine.

          • Sherbet

            Early Saturday morning…love ’em…not.

          • flyonthewall

            deploy noise cancelling headphone tech!

          • daisy

            I feel your pain I just got through neglecting my winter chores, but it is much more difficult in the spring with all my enterprising neighbors around me.

          • Earplugs.
            Find really comfy ones.
            The world becomes a better place.

          • A hobby of mine is making nature and other ambient recordings.
            Its almost impossible to not have sounds of civilization intrude. Sad.

            I was recording the clock chiming at Kirk in the Hills.
            Jet overhead, trucks in the distance.

            I tried to record a carillon concert there.
            (High in the Kirk tower is the 77-bell carillon, the world’s largest in number of bells (tied with our sister tower, Hyechon College in Korea). The carillon was cast by the 300 year-old royal bellfoundry of Petit and Fritsen, The largest bell, the Bourdon, is 6′ 10″ in diameter and weighs over six tons, and the smallest is only 6″ in diameter and weighs fourteen pounds. )
            http://www.kirkinthehills.org/ministries/music/instruments/carillon.
            Car doors slamming.

            We mentally filter out a lot. But we hear it.
            Silence is elusive, if not unattainable. Noise affects us.
            I know it gets on my last nerve.
            One can readily close or avert one’s eyes.
            I wish we had ear lids.
            Would come in very handy in many situations.

            • daytoncapri

              I remember hearing morning church bells when I was kid. They still do ring, but it is 2 miles away, you really cannot hear them from such a distance any more.

            • Not sure what you’re saying.
              You live further away, or your hearing’s going?

            • daytoncapri

              The growth noise pollution, mostly from traffic, wipes out the possibility to hear the bells in the distance. I am agreeing with you, I think.

  • Beth

    ok who’s gonna be comment #420 on 4/20?

    • Sherbet

      You!

      • Beth

        better late than never 😉 f5

  • Big F’ing Grin here from the closing sentence. This is turning into a good week.

    • salin

      I would add the words “yet another” … ‘This is turning into yet another good week.’

  • Linda Clement

    Great work, Tony!

  • Dice
    • Sherbet

      Why cloud propaganda with facts?

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      Well, flag can technically claim that crime is down. There are fewer arrests because of the Darth Xander incident that resulted in a CPD-wide memo telling officers to stop responding to calls invoking the infamous injunction.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    OK, so a hit and run, back Tuesday or so.
    Who’s your daddy, Dave?
    xxx
    PA

    Your sad sister’s poor daughter
    Another clam to the slaughter
    While Jenna and your dad
    Show a sadistic cad
    Life a bitch, Dave? You fought her.

    Has DM got the faintest scintilla
    Why he acts like an angry gorilla
    Culture, he feigns
    While his cult, it wanes,
    Sinking like his asbestos flotilla

    Will Ron and Dan
    Put DM in the can,
    When the IRS
    Looks at the mess
    Left by ElRon’s clan?

    While he never was a scholar,
    DM loves the almighty dollar
    Now his Dad’s book
    Shows him for a crook.
    Will the cops soon feel his collar?

    He never could be trusted.
    His ruthless ways are rusted –
    Lawyers and PIs
    To hide his endless lies.
    Now, by his dad, he’s busted.

    He thrives on endless strife.
    He banished his faithful wife.
    If not in jail,
    Denied all bail,
    He’ll be running for his life.

    You have heard of Tyrant Dave –
    More power does he crave.
    He’s on the hook
    With his father’s book
    For torture in $ci’s enclave.

    The leader of the con
    Busted by his father, Ron.
    On 20/20
    Ron reveals plenty.
    Soon Davey will be gone.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      On vaca and still … you’re a trooper, Pan!

    • Graham

      A rap just made for Chill E B.

    • Juicer77

      *waves*

  • pluvo

    Hey OSA, are you still able to keep track of who is SP and who isn’t and who is PTS, who is connected with whom and who should be disconnected from whom, who is talking to whom and who should not be talking to whom, who is reading what entheta from whom?? Or so. What a mess. And DM’s own family! Still no problem with the ratio of ‘SPs’?

    • daisy

      I would be happy to send him my rudimentary family tree drawing , of course he could fill in his own private enemies list . He could read the bunker to remind himself of who he hates today.

    • Graham

      No wonder the International Justice Chief can’t give the Garcias a list of Scientologists ‘in good standing’. The list must be changing on a daily basis.

      • Kestrel

        Not only does he have to deal with daily fluctuations, but “In good standing” is probably a shorter list than “In good standing but under the radar.”

    • dungeon master

      I think they should just tear out pages from the phonebook. 100 % easier and Probably 35% accurate if they tear out everything but the a-e’s. Hey fly! I made a joke! Edit I really hate auto correct.

      • daisy

        A very good joke, I am glad they were never able to audit the humor out of the exes. I am sorry for your loss.

      • flyonthewall

        lol

  • Liberated

    I am so looking forward to May 3rd.

  • Richard

    I wouldn’t normally post a story that has nothing to do with Scientology and the only connection is the Tribeca film festival, where Louis Theroux’s film was shown.
    This story, however, means a lot to me.
    “Donating” is a repulsive word when associated with Scientology.
    But donating a violin as in ‘Joe’s violin’ has a completely different meaning.

    http://www.theguardian.com/film/2016/apr/16/joes-violin-tribeca-film-festival-holocaust-survivor-friendship

    • Sherbet

      Beautiful story, Richard.

  • nottrue

    I hope Ron is not too Indie . I don’t like to here people praising LRH. But fuckin with DM is still so good

  • Jimmy3

    Cops
    Intervention
    Dr. Phil
    Wife Swap

    https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/2/21/Carnac.jpg

    Shows the Miscavige Family will soon guest star on.

    • April

      I miss Johnny Carson. <3

      • I just saw an old Dick Cavett show with Muhammed Ali and Woody Allen.

    • beauty for ashes

      ….Family Therapy with Dr. Jenn on VH1

  • A Scientology movie only Louis Theroux could make

    Louis Theroux—who has made a career trying to understand subcultures in his oddball way—is the perfect man to tackle Scientology

    “It’s a cinematographic mise en abyme.”
    http://www.macleans.ca/culture/movies/a-scientology-movie-only-louis-theroux-could-make/

    When the reviews start using an arcane French term derived from heraldry, doesn’t sound too lightweight, or fluffy, for an Oscar nomination to me.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mise_en_abyme

  • nottrue
    • daisy

      Good advice not wasting words on you.

    • dungeon master

      She doesn’t have the Fucking rank to know where Shelley is!

    • Draco

      So scientology: Blah blah blah wah wah wah

      That’s the way to debate a subject.

      • She took all the communication courses.

        • Draco

          More than once, I’m sure.

    • She’s heading for a fall.

  • Jimmy3

    And at that point, Ron Miscavige made a phone call that would prove to have huge implications for the Church of Scientology.

    Thetanbusters. He called the Thetanbusters.
    Sorry to spoil your cliffhanger.

    • flyonthewall

      i ain’t afraid of no thetan

      • Jimmy3

        If there’s something strange
        In your dynamic two
        Following you around
        PIs stalking you

        Who ya gonna call???

        Thetanbusters!

  • AnyOldName1

    You know what is truly interesting – at least to me – David Miscavige mistreated his father both in and out of Scientology, had him followed by men with guns and silencers, ordered them to “let him die” if his father had a heat attack, etc. but the final straw, the one that drove dear old Dad over the edge were his daughters disconnecting from him. David Miscavige could have kept his father silent, if only he would have allowed his sisters to remain “connected” to their father. David Miscavige this was a disaster of your own making.

    What a wonderful birthday for you this year: dear old Dad interviewed by 20/20 on your birthday eve, the book release just 3 days later and then all the follow-up interviews for a month. You’ll be celebrating and sucking your bottle for weeks!

  • J. Swift

    Tony, this is a blockbuster story that shows so much heartbreak, lies, and how Miscavige and OSA spend tax exempt dollars to conduct constant spying operations.

    The immense paranoia of Miscavige and OSA is staggering. They use Disconnection in a predatory scheme to maintain cash flow and abject obedience by the threat of Disconnection and breaking up families and friendships This has created a Scientology “parishioner” base — really the word should be “captives” base that is paralyzed into fear within a highly suppressive atmosphere where a person is only as good as their most recent IAS donation.

    The Church has two types of people: Predators and prey. The prey, or parishioners, behave because they believe the predators can take away their eternity, SOLO NOT’s, and their families. This is so ridiculous and yet it is the case. The predators — Miscavige and OSA — are textbook SP’s because they really don’t want anyone to get better. To get better would mean that Scientologists would see that Scientology is a rigged casino and they would leave. No one ever “wins” in Scientology except for Miscavige and his bankers and lawyers.

    The Church of Scientology is an evil, miserly, and paranoid farce that exists only to gather and hoard cash from its captives by flattery, threats, lies, or whatever else it takes to get their money. Anyone who speaks out is attacked and their families broken up in revenge by the hateful act of Disconnection.

    • Jimmy3

      I take it you’re not a fan

      • J. Swift

        Not a fan.

        • Susan B.

          I’m a fan of anyone that’s not a fan.

          • I hate hate and I love love.

            • Liberated

              That was profound, man.

            • Captain Obvious.

            • J. Swift

              Then you must be indifferent about indifference.

            • Yeah, I don’t care.

              I don’t care

              I don’t care

              I don’t care

              About this world

              I don’t care

              About that girl

              I don’t care

              I don’t care

              I don’t care

              About these words

              I don’t care
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QveJv7V4OZI

            • sundaygirl

              Anyone posting anything Ramones related is #1 in my book.

            • And I admire the wisdom of anyone that agrees with me.

            • Susan B.

              That’s profound. I think? lol. I just can’t think of a good reply.

        • Well geez, just say that then, instead of beating around the bush.

      • It really was hard to get his point.
        I wish people would just speak clearly, and with no ambiguity or equivocation.
        Although I also feel people should get beat up for stating their beliefs.
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEPhGPliP6E

        • J. Swift

          Yeah. Jimmy3 can be so ambiguous. He would do well to take Scientology’s comm course.

        • beauty for ashes

          ..because he knows there’s no such thing…

    • Although I cringe at brown-nosing, and I don’t want him to get a big head, this guy (Tony Mr. Ortega) is as good a writer as he is an investigator.
      A potent combination. Not sure I’ve seen the likes of it.
      Oh….prodigious output, too.
      Oh shit, I went too far.
      Effusive praise can be a cross too heavy to bear.
      So I will delete this before he sees it.

      • jazzlover

        Make sure you wipe your nose first 😉

        • I hate people like me.

          • jazzlover

            You ain’t so bad, relatively speaking, of course.

            • You don’t know me well. Give it time. You will come to hate me.

            • jazzlover

              Whatever you say. I see things. And no, I’m not OSA.

      • J. Swift

        Ken Delusion was just complaining to me that Tony Ortega is David Miscavige’s kryptonite.

  • Joseph L. Braverman

    Late breaking News: Tom Cruise was just awarded Father of the Year by no one.

  • Lighthouse

    Very, very interesting post, Tony. Looking forward to the next episode.

  • Kelley Hammers

    I hope they blow the whole lid off of the Scientology cult. You can’t treat people the way Scientology treats it’s members, kids locked in rooms sick with infections and no air conditioning and no medicine allowed, church members forced to do backbreaking labor for 20 hours a day. Not to mention the deaths and disappearances of people like Shelly Miscavige. Any former member who speaks out gets my applause.

  • Dice
  • KingofSweden

    OT: What would happen if a $cientologist consented to be sec checked (which perhaps they must automatically do, in writing, as part of the outrageous membership contracts) but refused to *pay* for their own sec checking? Would that be an automatic goldenrod?

    • What if there was no such thing as a hypothetical question?

  • Susan B.

    Was there any investigation into the boat crash. Who was the crazy person that manned that boat?

  • JanInThePan

    Wow Tony! I never knew Cliffhangers were a thing in journalism.. but now we’re all waiting with bated breath for part 2!

    • Internets for spelling and using the term correctly.

      • littlefish

        baited breathe?

        • Robert Eckert

          baited bread

  • scottmercer

    Great stuff. Our Proprietor on point yet again. And way to leave us with a nail-biting cliffhanger!

    • He’s such a tease.
      (Yes, there’s an echo in here.)

      • gtsix

        That’s my line dangnabbit.

        • Don’t repeat yourself, it makes it sound like an echo.

  • Jeb Burton

    There is really no story here. Just a normal Scientology family. All the families in the cult seem to have similar stories.

    • beauty for ashes

      LOL why don’t you just lift up your skirt and fart at Tony? Seriously!

      • Jeb Burton

        It’s a kilt. I’m being sarcastic, I love this story. But it is familiar to a lot of what we hear. But this is juicier,

        • beauty for ashes

          See? There’s a clever person in there somewhere. I just don’t get why you are so invalidating sometimes.

          • Jeb Burton

            It’s my brand.

            • jazzlover

              Actually, it may be your bran.

    • Juicer77

      Sad but true.

      • There is truth, and the statement of it will be misunderstood.

        • Juicer77

          Huh? 😉

          • beauty for ashes

            He’s just reading his fortune cookie to you. Don’t forget to add “in bed” at the end. 😉

          • It was misunderstood already (see below).
            Sarcasm in writing is hard.

  • Juicer77

    Tomorrow: HE CALLED TONY! I want a shiny, Crayola’d certificate if I’m right. LOL

    • flyonthewall

      ooh, good guess

      • Juicer77

        I’m so glad you didn’t venture outside to check out the buzzing noise. I was going to start screaming for you to stay away from the light!!!

        • flyonthewall

          hehe!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Nah called Dan Koon. Indy is as Indy does.

      • flyonthewall

        Dan Koon doesn’t make/deliver pizzas, why would he call him? Your theory makes no sense

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          No pizza, but only the freshest TECH delivery.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I’m laying a marker down on Leah Remini. She knows a thing or two about families.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Wishful thinking. If not Dan Koon, then Steve Hall.

        • I’ll put my simoleons down on Leah with you.

      • Nat-leficent

        ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

      • Juicer77

        Let me have my dreams, will ya? 😉

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Is reality good enough today?

          • Juicer77

            I suppose 😉

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist
      • Juicer77

        Love it!

  • Kim O’Brien

    Happy 4/20 !!…..hope everyone has a chilled out day and appreciates the small things

    • beauty for ashes

      Thanks for the warning, I bet today will be extra special crazy in Florida. Happy 4/20 and here are some extra small pretty things. 🙂 F5

    • Jimmy3

      I remember the first time I snorted weed
      It was this morning

      • How was it?

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Sprinkle it over your cereal next time. You won’t spend the whole day sneezing. ; )

    • Yes I do.
      This is small.
      https://sales.magic-flight.com/

      • Kim O’Brien

        ok …that is fantastic . Thank you !

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Ha! There’s one called the Muad-Dib. Great reference.

        • I will give you your money back if you aren’t completely satisfied.

        • I actually didn’t know the reference until I just looked it up.
          Should I finally go down the Frank Herbert rabbit hole?

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Yes, if you don’t like it….someone might give you your money back. 😉

            • But can I get my mind back?
              “Don’t mess with my brain. Its my second favorite organ.” (Woody Allen)
              “Watch what you put into that brain of yours, because you will never, ever, get it out.” (Unknown, but I’m claiming it)

          • Here’s a tip: start with Dune. End with Dune. One of the best books of my youth and I re-read it from time to time.

            • Thanks for the heads up.

    • sideways

    • I appreciate that the stupid motherfucker who turned right from the left lane without a turn signal (and then yelled at me to “watch where I was going”) didn’t kill me.
      Its a small thing.
      Happens everyday.

  • flyonthewall

    Ron Miscavige picked up the phone and ordered 100 pizzas for David Miscavige, setting off a prank war with huge implications for the Church of Scientology.

    • Joseph L. Braverman

      Pizza Tech. Ron picked that up while “in” no doubt. One of the many weapons in the $cientology arsenal against SP’s.

  • Joseph L. Braverman

    Not to worry Dave….as soon as your new broadcasting complex starts emanating the actual truth to the world wide masses; you will be hailed universally as the true savior of mankind.

    Am I doing better with the semi-colons by the way. They’re just so dang confusing!

    ML,
    Joseph

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    Another fascinating story. Tony is the planetary chronicler of the saga of Scientology. So well researched and told. This I know takes courage and tenacity. So thanks.

  • Mary

    The power of disconnection. Way to go dave!

  • Jeb Burton

    I’m speculating on who he called after deciding to write the book. It had to be a well known critic. My guess is Marc Headly. I heard Tony is awarding a substantial cash prize to any bunkerite who correctly guesses who he called. Have at it, and good luck.

    • Let’s see….who is a substantial critic that is also published by Silvertail?

    • Frodis73

      I think he called Dan Koon.

      • Jimmy3

        Dan Koon is the obvious answer, though. He eventually helped him write the book. The cliffhanger leads me to believe he called someone else first who helped convince him it was the right idea. And I don’t think it was Tony Ortega either. Tony is very humble when it comes to taking credit for his role in exposing Scientology.

        • gtsix

          Obvious doesn’t mean incorrect though. The quote of “I’m going to write that book.” could mean he had it in mind (as he’d written 2 already about his life ), so maybe the decision was made when dear daughter stuck her lot in with the cash cow/free lawyers from her brother.

          Maybe he called a psychic hotline?

          • Frodis73

            That’s why I guessed Dan.

          • ze moo

            A real psychic hotline: ” Hello Mr. Miscavage, yes, you should write that book”.

            Actual psychic hotline: “Hello, what is your credit card number?”

        • Frodis73

          That is actually a really good point that I didn’t think of. Hmmm…now I am going to go with someone like Rinder or Rathbun. A famous SP. I don’t think it was Tony either…though I could be wrong because TO is excellent at protecting his sources. Just a hunch…I feel as if tony and ron had been in touch there would have been a story at some point. I am hoping with the release of the book maybe he will talk to TO.

    • gtsix

      He called DM.

      Is there a participation trophy? Ohhh shiny.

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        ^^My guess as well.

        Ron’s opening line may have been: “You little …”

        *clic*

        Voilà

    • Mark Allen Shreck

      Breaking the rules I guess, but I’m thinking rinder or delacarriere….sorry if auto correct mucked up the spelling…

  • Jimmy3

    *Phone ringing…*

    “4-1-1. City and state please?”

    “I’m not sure. I’m trying to call my daughter-in-law”

    “Name?”

    “Shelly Miscavige.”

    “…And where is Shelly?”

    *click*

  • TexasBroad

    The following is only tangentially related but it moved me and made me think of all the disconnected & broken families last night. An email notification popped up that said CALL ME and I thought it was some news on Phil & Willie’s billboard, but it was from my sister, who has no interest at all in anything scientology related. It read…

    Dear (TexasBroad and another TB-Sis),
    I am writing again. Trying to process being a widow at 56, of the long two years of hospitals, of letting go. This is what I wrote last night after talking to TB-Sis…
    The text “Are you awake” only comes at 1am or later. Earlier, we just call, sharing the insomnia gene that we do. But the 1am text takes on a plaintive cry. “Are you awake?” means “Can you talk? Can you help me? I need a sister. I need you.” Unspoken but understood. Last night it was about whether TB-Sis should take (husband) to the ER, but there’s been so many more crises that surface when the family is in bed, when the house is quiet, when the demons of motherhood came out to play or the unhappiness of a marriage reared its head. I think she is sneaking out. God, I think I’m pregnant! I can’t face another round of chemo. I’m leaving him. The doctor’s diagnosed him with (significant mental illness). What should I do? Is it my fault? Should I have done something differently? Help?!
    “Are you awake?” is answered with lightning speed – “CALL ME!” Call me and pour out your heart. Tell me your innermost secrets because that is why I am here. I may not have the answers, but I will listen. I will not judge. I love you. You are my sister. I am always here.
    __________
    Scientology is pure F*^$ing evil.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      * ^ *

    • Chee Chalker

      Beautiful

    • That is a deeply human gem of a post.

      • TexasBroad

        She’s a great human and I was reduced to sister-mush. I was spending the evening in the Bunker when I received it and it resonated so strongly with me how unimaginable it is that these sacred ties are severed. I’ve been here long enough to ‘understand’ how it happens, but it never stops being unimaginable to me.

  • Nat-leficent

    That second mugshot reminds me of those Disney Princess mugshots by Twisted f5

    • April

      Is…is she wearing a Jack Daniels t-shirt? lmao

  • Nat-leficent

    Caption Contest: Alternate/working titles for Ron Sr’s book Ruthless: Scientology, My Son David Miscavige, and Me
    F5

    • Sherbet

      TOOTHLESS
      The Scientology Guide to Do-It-Yourself Orthodontia

      • Nat-leficent

        OMG Sherbie — you read my mind!

        • Jimmy3

          I did the toothless thing when no replies were on my screen. Must be too obvious a joke. Fail

          • Sherbet

            Bowling trophy for you.

            • Jimmy3

              Mark it 8, Dude

          • Nat-leficent

        • Sherbet

          Yours is better. I was trying to come up with some reference to Dave’s twisted mouth.

    • Nat-leficent

      Toothless: The Untold Story of LRH’s Final Dental Afflictions

      • Sherbet

        Hahahaha!

    • Jimmy3

      TOOTHLESS: Methamphetamine, My Sister Denise Miscavige, and Me

      • Sherbet

        That’s better than mine.

    • TexasBroad

      How NOT To Treat Asthma (semi-stole from Nottrue comment below)

      • Nat-leficent

        Nottrue FTW

        • TexasBroad

          I know. It was so good, I couldn’t in good conscience outright steal it.

    • Chee Chalker

      Mindless? Soulless? Clueless? Cruise-less?

    • OOkpik

      BLINDSIDED

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Prisoner #47474747: The Downfall of a Sociopath.

    • Robert Eckert

      Pompadour: If He Dyes, Let Him Dye

      • One Internetz™ for you, sir.

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    The suspense!!
    “Tomorrow we’re going to tell you all about it”. (Well, it’s bedtime where I am.)
    I imagine some dramatic music and images to accompany that suspense:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f8mMyJSwFoQ

    • gtsix

      Sleep well.

    • The Moldavian Massacre is more like it! Or in this case, the Bulgravian Bungramming?

  • I’m worried for Tony.
    What the hell is he going to do when Scientology collapses in the next couple of weeks?
    Its not like he has any practical skills to fall back on. Can he weld? Can he sew buttons?
    Oh yeah, there’s always gofundme.
    So, let’s all pitch in and make sure he has a soft place to land.
    Like the Lone Ranger (ala Lenny Bruce) said, “When the world is pure and good I’ll be in the shit house.”

    • Nat-leficent

      Lol

    • TexasBroad

      I pictured Tony welding in his suit jacket and cracked up!

    • gtsix

      He’d make a great bartender in some dive bar (if any still exist). Listens well and tells a good story.

      • He could be a haberdasher.

        Nigel Tufnel: [on what he would do if he couldn’t be a rock star] Well, I suppose I could, uh, work in a shop of some kind, or… or do, uh, freelance, uh, selling of some sort of, uh, product. You know…

        Marty DiBergi: A salesman?

        Nigel Tufnel: A salesman, like maybe in a, uh, haberdasher, or maybe like a, uh, um… a chapeau shop or something. You know, like, “Would you… what size do you wear, sir?” And then you answer me.

        Marty DiBergi: Uh… seven and a quarter.

        Nigel Tufnel: “I think we have that.” See, something like that I could do.

    • outraged

      He’ll take a well deserved vacation.

    • He’s got a TV station to run. I’m sure he’ll be fine. Plus there will be years and years of stories to cover after the floodgates open.

      • gtsix

        Heh, he could takeover the SuMP studios!

      • 3feetback-of-COS

        I can envision “Scientology Stories” as a long running weekly series like the Twilight Zone, going on for years and years.

        “There are 8 million stories in the “the Naked Cult…. This is one of them”

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      This is Tony’s moonlight job, his sideline, his avocation. Come to think of it, I don’t understand where he finds the time to run a TV station as well!

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    David wants Denise and Whitney to find out exactly where Shelly is. He wants it so much.

    Their problems with wog law may actually be what is keeping them safe in cos world.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    For some good local news, for anyone homeless in Pinellas County and need of medical, dental or behavioral treatment, Bayside Health Clinic finally opened at 14808 49th St. N, Clearwater, FL The Pinellas Co Sheriff’s Safe Harbor homeless shelter would probably help get anyone to the clinic if say someone needed a way to get there from the shelter. Very happy to see behavioral mental health services included.

    http://www.tampabay.com/blogs/baybuzz/bayside-health-clinic-now-open-to-pinellas-countys-homeless-population/2273982

    Also, no RIP – Happy 90th Birthday, Queen Elizabeth. What’s your secret?

    • Handservants.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Does Amazon sell those and does Medicare cover?

        • 2 day shipping with Prime.
          And free returns!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I’ll have the sarong sent to Kim then!

        • They will cover home health aides after surgery or a long term illness! Also home nurse/doctor visits. Not the same though I know.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I like Shorphy’s answer best, Miss Tia. It seems to me if you make it to a certain age, you should automatically get handservants.

            • I agree with that!! If you get to 18, you should get maid servants, agreed? 😉

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Not hungry enough at 18. 29 for sure though, how’s that?

            • TexasBroad

              In a perfect world, we get an assigned life-long therapist at birth, a brooding pool boy in a sarong in our 20’s, a trained au pair in our 30s, a good bartender in our 40s and a maid servant in our 50s. I will update this list with my additional needs in 10 years. Make it so.
              A girl can dream.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I am voting you in for President. Or Queen. We should have a Queen of America. I’ll write your campaign song. No touring though. Those tour buses are murder on your rump and spine.

            • TexasBroad

              A THDNE song!! For me?? OOOHHH – I’m in!! I will be a benevolent ruler and bring peace to the lands. In my first act of office, I will prepare a tiny little dungeon for a petty little bitch.

            • Kestrel

              I think I’m ready for a maid servant.

            • I’m ready for the pool boy. Oh, who am I kidding, I’d just make him do the laundry and dishes.

    • She gets lots of fresh air, exercises daily–via walking in the garden and horse riding on weekends or daily if she’s at Balmoral, Windsor, or Sandringham, eats sensibly and indulges moderately, doesn’t let stress get to her by getting strength from her faith–which is very important to her, and always tries to do her best and make her father proud.

    • Lousy Ratatouille

      She’s probably got her good genes to thank for it, since the Queen Mum lived to be over 100 years old.

    • Robert Ramsay

      Gin and tonic and the odd fag ( British context – I know I live with one )

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Thanks goodness some sensible advice for a change! Thank you

      • Either that or someone’s been talking about me behind my back.

  • Chee Chalker

    Since today is April 20 (4-20, 420) I would just like to send a message to Denise…BLAZE IT SISTER!

    • gtsix

      Wondering… the euro convention for dates is day month, so it’s 204… do they still celebrate 420 day?

      *please no one mention any dead guy whose birthday was today. that’s just ick

      • Napoleon III?

        • gtsix

          I asked not to mention him! Even dead, he’s still shy.

      • Chee Chalker

        That’s why I like the fact that this date has been commandeered by the ‘mellow’ bunch.
        I don’t think the birthday boy would have approved of that.

  • outraged

    O/T’ish…..Cumberbatch is being wooed by SciFiers who know his wife? Sounds like an episode of the Outer Limits. F5

    http://www.crazydaysandnights.net/2016/04/blind-items-revealed-2-449.html

    • Ella Raitch

      Release the Cumberbitches

    • madame duran

      I don’t buy it.

      • outraged

        I don’t either, but is Sophie really a former scifier?

        • madame duran

          That’s the major reason why I don’t believe it. I have never seen any sign, trace or indication that she flows (or used to flow) in those clam circles. That’s not to say that the cult wouldn’t like to try luring her and Benedict in (it’s always out to recruit new celebs). If Sophie was a Scientologist, the British orgs would be trumping it up, not keep it to themselves.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Yesterday, there was a discussion led by Nora and Derek about how they were denied medical care in the Sea Org, and at home by parents (Derek). Here’s an interesting article about a woman suing her parents for not getting her medical treatment. http://www.today.com/health/denied-medical-care-because-religion-she-now-wants-her-parents-t87141?utm_content=buffer3de35&utm_medium=social&utm_source=facebook.com&utm_campaign=buffer

    Religious freedom does not mean denying the rights of others, including one’s children.

    • Frodis73

      This is a great story, sad as hell, but important. it should be illegal to force your beliefs on your kids like that.

      • Nick Xenophon, on Scientology:
        “In Australia there are not limits on what you can believe but there are limits on how you can behave. It’s called the law, and no one is above it.”

        From 2009 November 17 speech on Scientology in Australia Senate, cited in Bita, Natasha (November 20, 2009). “Science or fiction?”. The Australian. Retrieved on 2009-11-20.

  • Xenu Ate My Baby!

    Soooo, is everyone confident that ABC will follow through and allow 20/20 to broadcast some truth about Scientology?

    • Frodis73

      I am…they aired the 20/20 with Leah…I don’t think they’ll back down on this one either.

      • It will be huge.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        That’s Reason #2 I’m betting he made the first call to Leah.

        • Frodis73

          Ah ha! Good guess! Wait though, didn’t Leah’s thing just air this fall? The book was announced over the summer IIRC…i’m sure he was working on it for probably a year or so…the timeline doesn’t match up. God, I can’t wait to read tomorrow’s story, lol.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I was just thinking he might have known her and the family or reached out to her because she Did get out with family intact. Maybe ask how she and the rest dealt with it and got through it all in one peace And tips on TV interviewing, etc

        • Kestrel

          The phone call that would totally blow Captain Miscavige’s mind is one to Pat Broeker.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Even I almost fainted at the thought. Woh nelly

      • Xenu Ate My Baby!

        Indeed.
        How did I forget that???

        It must be 4/20,,,,hahaha….Next yr I’ll stay away from Snoop and Willie Nelson’s parties!
        🙂

    • Not really.
      Until I see promos for it.

      • Xenu Ate My Baby!

        Well, like Frodis73 said, they DID air the Leah Remini deal….so, maybe!!

        I just always expect national “media” to cave to pressure and bail on their stories….bcz I have perfected pessimism to a science!!
        Hahaha!

        • Frodis73

          Lol, but that is understandable…esp when it comes to scientology and their tricks.

  • Dumb fucks in the Land of Misfit Toys with bonus police prose! Come home from errand–wanted to get more peroxide in stock, to be safe, in case Pan(I whine like a bitch but I’ll take a yard intruder out)acea decided to play ‘let’s try to kill a possum’ again tonight. OT/OT Called vet, spoke to the trainer there, she said to toss a bucket of water on her IF it happens again and I was smart to stay back last night. Tonight and going forward, Pan goes out second, so the yard can be patrolled first 😀 Back to just OT. Get home, duh, and I hear men’s voices coming down the street as I walk to my side door. I go back to my van for ??? so I could watch.

    There was 3 of them and they go up on the porch of the condemned, soon to be demolished house. They look in front window, “Yep it sure is empty inside.” Another one said “Should we go in now?” “Nah, let’s come back later.” They were NOT whispering and they DID see me, as I saw them leaving the steps and I went towards my side door. They didn’t care they saw me. As they walked down the street, I grabbed my camera and took some pix. Here’s just two. They were smoking pot, hey it’s 4/20, but um, walking down the street?

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/misstia/5549708/1050851/1050851_800.jpg

    And if you’re basically casing a house, maybe ensure you cover your back if you have distinctive tattoos?

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/misstia/5549708/1051168/1051168_800.jpg

    Call the non-ER APD # figuring they’d take a report on the phone. Oh no!! They were sending an officer to see the pix. I transferred ’em to my tablet so they could be enlarged. He arrived within a few minutes–he was in the area—and took the descriptions, especially the tattoos. The tattooed guy had walked down here last week with a dog when I was sitting in the street. The officer said he probably was finding empty houses that way. He was gonna see if he saw them out around here and let the evening patrols know. He said they probably were gonna try to steal the pipes; but I told him the Habitat for Humanity Deconstruction Crew was out last week and they removed the pipes and wiring. So he wrote a note and left it for them on the front door—their only point of access. The front door is locked; but a hard kick would open it. I love this note:

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/misstia/5549708/1051420/1051420_800.jpg

    I let the new neighbors next door know about this with the pix and the # to call. If we see them on the street, we’re to call too. Do not fuck around in the Land of Misfit Toys. Other than this, my day has been fucked due to last night’s bedtime hell—allergies got flared up when I was crawling under the cherry bushes and wild rose bushes. All cut up too. Grrrr….but Pan, and the possum is okay! Will these dumbfucks get a free ride downtown??? I bet they do!!! I hope I get to video that!! Bad boys bad boys what’cha gonna do??

    • Frodis73

      Ha! I love this.

      • That note is fucking great, I LOVE THAT NOTE!!! I dunno why, but it just cracks me up. Those guys are total dumb fucks! Tweedle Dee, Tweedle Dum, Tweedle Dim

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          If only there was a video of when those three clowns read that note – lol

          • I KNOW!!!! If there was a way to rig that up, you know I’d have done it!! 😀 I’m gonna be watching over there tonight til I go to sleep (duh) and the next door neighbors are night owls, so they’ll be up. Any noise and they’re calling the police. They said if they heard breaking glass they’d call 911, which yes, I would too. They know the house addy, so they’re prepared.

    • They kicked my door in, and it wasn’t locked.
      They do what they do.

      • Well that door is locked, the officer tried it. Might also be sort of braced from inside; but they could push it open I have no doubt. Or just break the front window or dining room window on the side—where they probably think no one would notice at night. Uh huh. Step into my parlor said the spider to the fly.

    • Jimmy3

      Maybe they were there to get high and build a toad sanctuary.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Off duty blimp pilots perhaps?

        • Jimmy3

          One of the guys has a Goodyear tat. I think Tia messed up here

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Yeah, coulda been a Mr. Tia.

      • LOL!!! If ONLY!!! I think though the Robinette Ct. Toad Sanctuary is at 571 (my house).

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Just a little mood music to for the night shift turnover.

    https://youtu.be/G0YHc0xKqJ8

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      If they do a Bollywood Star Wars remake, I’m revolting. This is cool though.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        They have one of the Game of Thrones themes. And I don’t think you’re revolting at all!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Bwahaha. I see what you did there.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            So what’s on the menu for April 29 Viewing? Are we going casual, or sit down? Late dinner or late horse doovers? Paper or china? These are important questions I have.

            • Where? What?
              First rule of the Bunker: no secrets.
              Ha!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              ABC’s 20/20 hour show feating Ron Miscavige Senior on April 29. L Wrong always slaps down a post about some of the best meals or snacks as we’re all watching. I wanna be prepared this time. This is not a pretzels and beer night. Also, I can’t do pretzels and beer.

            • Thanks.
              Note to self: note this.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              My Costco has a lovely Mojo marinated skirt steak they’ve been selling. Gotta get the grill super hot though to be able to sear and not overcook.

            • vicariousthrill

              dear god, i love skirt steak

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Not sure if this is nationwide, but since we’ve got lots of Hispanic folks down here, we gets the mojo skirt. I’m having the second part of it right now as a matter of fact.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I have a NY butcher down the street. Oh no I missed the station! He said 8:40 earlier. Oh well.
              I guess you’ll just have to come over and grill so we make sure it’s done right.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I ran out early, but with about 50% cloud cover right now, I didn’t spot it either.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Damn, that sounds good, but I’ll be somewhere for work that day and would have no chance to make it over there.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I dunno….Capital Grill splurge might be in order…..mmmm Kona crusted strip loin with herb shallot butter.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Sit down, fine china, formal it is then. *makes notes to wear footwear, plate holders with the paper plates, Mr. Hole must wear pants to the table. In the middle of the bed. Okay then!
              Now we’re gonna have to grill.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              He only needs pants until he gets seated. After that, I’m sure he can be discrete.

            • But hopefully, not incontinent.

            • Bacon wrapped shrimp with jalapeno/a and cream cheeze.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Always an appropriate choice.

            • And, like Scientology, so easy.

            • Never had it, so I couldn’t say.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              What!?!? That’s damn near unAmerican. Hint, cook bacon most of the way done first or the shrimp will be waaaay overcooked if you are grilling. I do the jalapenos part way first too, then assemble.

            • Popcorn.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I think that’s just understood. Like oxygen 🙂

            • pluvo
            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Classy Bunker is classy.

            • pluvo
            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Mmmm. Or maybe we should just fill up the Bunker with popcorn and dive in. But now I’m hungry for fondue because at first glance, that’s what I thought this was.

            • Frodis73

              Yum!!

            • Chinese paper.

        • Don’t call me Shirley.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Shirley, you can’t be serious!

            • I said…..oh never mind.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              OT – Intl space station – should be over our heads around 8:40 pm tonight. Live here:
              LIVE ISS tracking

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Cool! It goes by pretty quick, so don’t be late.

              PS, your link is not a link.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist
            • I caught it by accident right at dusk one evening in between rehearsals for my now defunct band. The solar panels flared and caught my eye. It was very cool to see like that.

      • It will, and must, happen.
        And I will subscribe.

    • Saw Ravi Shankar circa 1966.
      But in the vein of transitional mood music we need some Tunak around here.
      Some anons re-created it to great effect in a demo back in the olden times.
      Presenting goddam pacman and friends….so cal anons outside an org.
      Imagine the cowering scilons inside. What were they thinking?
      And compare to the original.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E0e320LFeuY

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vTIIMJ9tUc8

  • Hello, IRS Commissioner? This is Ron Miscavige Sr. I’m going to write that book. Have a nice day.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      That’s the one we all hope for, isn’t it?

      • pluvo

        As long as such is possible, the IRS will do nothing, IMO:
        John Oliver setting up his own Church: “Our Lady of Perpetual Exemption” (at 14:35)

        Last Week Tonight with John Oliver: Televangelists https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7y1xJAVZxXg

        • MaxSpaceman

          Evangelical Christianity would unleash the Whirlwind of persecuting those who wish religious choice.

          IRS, not in anyone on this Board’s lifetime, will do anything against scilon corporations.

          What may lead to its ruin is the weight of public opinion turning the brand “Scientology” and “L Ron Hubbard” into such deep sh1t, into such a group or rancid, poison, in a major way in populations in every country Scilons occupy.

          But that is checkmated by L Ron Hubbard with his Fronts– the anti-drugs, Criminon, Applied Scholastics, WISE, all their PR outreach groups counter-act against the PR revelations. So far.

          Dad’s book will be should be huge against Dave’s reputation. But those Fronts are golden. They make public opinion, in their own way, all over, with many many influential people, in many different countries.

        • Narapoid

          Jeez I wish he would rip the Scilons a new ass. I would be epic!

    • Beep….after the tone please leave your message, which we will ignore.
      Beep.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Hello, Ron Sr? This is the IRS. What are your crimes?!

      • vicariousthrill

        well said.

  • InClearwater

    Long workday. How wonderful to come home and read such a good post by the proprietor. Excellent journalism. Since I spent part of my day at the Poynter Institute, I appreciate it even more. Clicked the heart. Tomorrow I plan to delve into all the excellent comments. Too pooped to do it now, but I always have enough energy each day to read Tony’s post.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Having fun at Poynter? Sounds interesting. Maybe tomorrow.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Could use some help on this one if anyone knows. I’m trying to find zoning info and regulations for support group meeting places for NA (Narcotics Anonymous), AA, 12 step, those type of program (not Narconon as far as I know). I have found Land Use, I have found 990’s, Corp Registration numbers, but can’t find anything about zoning – it would be in Pinellas County. Thanks.

    • I doubt that there could be any zoning regulations concerning group meeting places. I hope not anyway.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Registered as a business under FL Corporations. Multiple meetings morning, noon, night, open all day lounge, 13 hours a day, 7 days a week. Promoting to bring in more, any kind of recovery group. EIN shows listed as drug treatment category for tax exemptions, but it’s not at all.They are leasing in location and building they recently moved into.
        Oh and right next to a children’s school.

    • Kestrel

      Many of those groups meet in church fellowship halls. Those that don’t are usually in shopping areas or office complexes. I don’t know of any city that would prohibit these venues. If a group like that were to meet in a residence or a structure with inadequate parking that might be a concern for the locality.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        tks. I’m used to some of the churches hosting one or two meetings a week. That’s it. This is a registered business, 13 hours a day 7 days a week though – and right next to kids’ school And in a residential area. And they’re paying for a long term lease. They used to be in a business district. I’m trying to imagine the 3rd graders skipping by waving to the nice heroin or oxy addicts. There’s no security, and no medical staff that I can see listed, on the premises.

        • Kestrel

          There are places like that here. They’re usually in commercial areas. I suppose they pay rent like any place. Maybe they get a break for being non-profit.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Ah, I see they charge for membership dues. Yes, privately held, non profit biz. It’s just very strange and not good for various reasons, and it Is smack in the middle of residential and school. Lots of traffic in and out already. Police already called out twice. That’s why i was wondering how to find out if the locatin is zoned for a business or not. I can only find land use.

            • Kestrel

              Hmmm….frequent police calls are a bad sign. A long lease won’t help them if that continues. From what I’m told, AA and NA don’t charge membership dues.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I know – it’s weird. they say the’re not AA, etc, but then list them in different group meetings types. They are definitely charging for membership dues. Oh, this is very recent, so only 2 calls. Haven’t quite come across anything like this.

            • Frodis73

              Yes, all 12 step groups pay rent to use whatever space they are using whether it’s at a church or a Kiwanis club type place.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Thanks. I’m just wondering if the school has been informed now.

            • Frodis73

              I read your posts again and it sound more like an AA “club” type thing. If they are causing trouble your best bet is the local office…if they won’t listen go higher all the way up to the national office…they are very touchy about their rep and will probably listen to you.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              thanks and that’s just another unusual thing about all this. They say they are Not affiliated with any group, Not AA, not NA, non Al Anon, etc, then they list out meetings under the different groups like that. Some are “open”. It doesn’t make sense, nor does their 990 filings since they aren’t drug treatment and again, how they can be a business in a residential/school zone area, open 13 hours a day every day. Can’t find much of any info on the owners and 3 board directors, other than they are quite old. No footprints.

            • Kestrel

              There’s a spiritual development center in north Dallas. They provide space for all kinds of 12-step programs. The board is made up of some high society folks. As Frodis73 said, if you think an AA group is causing problems for the neighborhood or the police, contact the regional office. I Googled Pinellas County AA meetings. They’re called Pinellas County Intergroup. The website has phone numbers and an email address.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I already talked to the Sheriff’s dept, but only shortly. They are aware the group moved. I think for the most part it’s a good working relationship they try and develop with support groups – mutual benefit. And that’s the thing, Kestrel – this group clearly states up front they are Not AA, but they have their meetings there and other groups. And I wouldn’t know who is from what group. Hopefully not a problem for the kids, but it’s a lot of traffic with hundreds going in and out per week and who knows background or really anything. Wouldn’t even have noticed if it wasn’t for the sheer volume and every single day. Thanks.

            • See, traffic like that by a school? And another reason they usually zone such things away from schools is that often times people in rehab/recovery are registered sex offenders.

              Something in the milk isn’t clean here.

            • Frodis73

              Hmmm…odd. Wish I had my old na/aa contacts…they could give me the scoop on how they go about those things. Do you feel comfortable giving the name they use?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Not here www moxiebaymusic AT gmail DOT com
              thank you!

            • If it’s AA affiliated, I am approximately 5 blocks, probably little less, away from the AA world headquarters if it’s AA affiliated/associated in any way.

            • Frodis73

              Done!

            • I am sure you contacted the county zoning board, looked the place up on the state secretary of state to follow the trail of people/business name, etc. There ARE usually restrictions for such things within a school zone.

            • Frodis73

              Wait, are you saying the AA groups are causing trouble? If that is the case please call the local office and make a complaint with them…they can warn the members to shape the fuck up or they are going to get kicked out. I just know it’s very hard for them to find space. Pretty funny that I’m kinda sorta sticking up for the 12 step folks, cause they are a cult themselves and in general i am not a fan.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              INcidents weren’t when the school was open, and I know these types kick people out when there’s a problem. And I think I’m also concerned because kids and I don’t know if any of them are getting medical treatment along with their faith meetings. And quite a few very loud hogs just to keep it interesting. (bikes, not farm animals, lol)

            • Frodis73

              LOL about the hog comment. Oh Xenu, i love you, you crack me up

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              It’s Florida. Even in cities, you have to make these distinctions. 🙂 hugs

  • salin

    Reminder to recommend (at 175 – can we get to 200? Such a big story – such great comments…)

    Here is a sky shot from Venezuela – A solar Halo seen earlier today: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=124919&PHPSESSID=vfrtgalegnggvhsajrqpkk4bq6

  • outraged

    So creepy a meeting was surreptiously photographed and then our proprietor finds out four years later. Makes you wonder how much spying is really going on here.

    • Liberated

      And, it’s at tax-payers expense.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I’d advise no more walking around the Bunker nekkid.

      • Ben Franklin

        OSA likes to snoop around

      • Baby

        MInd your own beezewax f5 nekkid picture

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Thanks, but I’m not really into naked, gymnastics panda porn.

          • Kestrel

            I can’t take my eyes off it.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I am NOT refreshing, Baby.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              You know you already did……don’t lie.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Had enough excitement for the day – I have to pace myself now:)

          • Baby

            hahahha What country do you find Panda’s in? hmmmmmmmmm?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              You got me there.

            • Baby

              You have got to get up pretty early to get ahead of this ditsy blonde..

    • PerpetualOutflow

      As much as Tony has reported over the years, I have a feeling it’s the tip of the iceberg.

  • Narapoid

    The things done in the name of faith. If you believe, truly believe, there is nothing out-of-line. If you have faith that protecting the welfare of your church is greater than your well-being—-or the lack of faith in another needs bolstering, even forcefully, letting your own conviction motivate others…”The tech works, let it.” the ‘greater good’ makes sense. And things are done. Ugly things at times. Just don’t look back. Never waiver. Because if what you did was for a farce, a mirage, to say a person feels foolish is a profound understatement. It could haunt for the rest of your life.

    I look at the face of Denise, from the open beaming smile alongside one of her baby girls of 2000 to the sad mugshot of ’13… it happened to her. My God what a transformation. I think Denise quit drinking the koolaid, and the gravity of her actions concerning Kyle Brennan, before and after, the disconnection (out of fear) from her girl who has had a river of trouble, and the fact that she is trapped have demolished her.

    The loss of faith and all that was sacrificed for the movement to be rendered a squandered life, fortune and love…to say it would be devastating doesn’t cover it. Hats off to those who can “confront” that.

    • I think that picture was with her younger sister Lori but yep I know what you mean. This entire mind f**ken rape effects the body in a number of ways. Sadness at least until one mostly figures it out and then I hear it’s like a magic transformation and the lights and happiness come back on ((Smiles))

      • Narapoid

        Yes, her sister. I do hope she can come out of this. Her daughter could use some help. And her father would like to be there for her in a real way I am certain too.

        I hope all these pilgrims can get out and find a way to forgive themselves.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Thinking a huge # of ex-Scientologists have PTSD.

      In a big, big way.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      And perhaps chronic fear.

      • Narapoid

        No doubt. She saw first hand what happened to Shelley.

  • downtherabbithole

    Good evening all. Could someone please answer a question for me? I have iBooks and preordered Ron’s book but have never preordered a book before. Will the book show up in my library on the release date? Will I be notified to download it?

    Thank you Tony for all your reporting. It has been quite the journey for me as a never-in.

    • downtherabbithole

      Did I mention I am technology challenged!! Think I will go join the peeps at the campfire & indulge in a s’more
      Ok maybe 2 s’mores

    • salin

      It should show up in your library on the release date.

      • downtherabbithole

        Thank you salin. Now off to enjoy those s’mores. Have a wonderful evening.

        • Ella Raitch

          And sometimes it arrives a little early!

        • salin

          S’mores – yum. Enjoy your eveining dtrh.

  • Baby

    i-betty and I visited Clearwater and while I was driving we saw a lady of the evening sashaying by. I said to Betty..
    ” There is one of the drug addicts of Clearwater.. ” She looked like a meth head.. and yes a hooker.
    One of the tragic figures of the night.

    Betty was somewhat surprised / shocked to see her, but we went to a seedier part of the city to get ( I forget what) and she was scared to sit in the car while I went in. ( Really!)

    Yes.. she was quite the Pristine Posh Brit.. ( Me? Have you ever been to Toledo? ugh)
    PS she claims she’s not POSH, but just sayin.. she is pretty close. f5

    • Jimmy3

      What were you there to get?

      • Baby

        Tetanus shot.

        • Ben Franklin

          I was thinking OT powers

          • Baby

            hahhaha.. OMG.. you guys are funny!

        • Pre or post?

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          What kind of hydroponic strain is that? Never heard of it before.

          • I think she means “Tetanus Shot”.
            4 oz. Mezcal.
            Straight up.

          • Baby

            I don’t know what that means but it sounds vulgar.

      • Baby

        It was at a carry out.. I want to say milk for coffee.. ( Haaaaaaaaaa… it just dawned on me.. what one would get at a seedier part of the city..) JIMMY!

        • Seedy:Clearwater, Seedy:Toledo, Seedy: Detroit
          One of these things….

          • Baby

            Yep.. Detroit has lost it’s way a long time ago.. Hasn’t recovered since Kwamie Kilpatrick gangsta thug that he is.

            • Oh, says the girl living in Paradise.
              Riding her Zuma around like a tropical princess.
              Detroit was a wasteland (the worst city in the world, as I would say…but we have that going for us…as I would say) way way before Kwame.
              He deserves to rot in hell for picking the bones like a fucking vulture, but he was not the original sin.
              But, Baby, come back… I’m on my best behavior
              I can’t take it anymore I just woke up on the floor
              I know you’ve heard all this before but so what?
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R5IMmgxtCYM

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AL_xqOoW59c

            • Baby

              You better believe that about Detroit.. Coleman young, Cavenaugh ( sp) God the list goes on..

              They never recovered since the riot of 1967.. that did it for them.

              https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7f11068af137f217d49f6dbf452ac2db2a222a6310da43c81f14c9e1941d6f6b.gif

            • Baby

              Oops forgot to thank you for my beautiful songs.. and I’ll tell you one thing Shorp..

              I love my pizza.. been to Italy ate great pizza.. but the All time best pizza in the World is at Greektown in D.. The BEST..

              and it has spoiled me for all other pizzas..

            • Corporate monsters had already picked most of the meat off the bones by the time Mr. Kilpatrick was running for his first political office. Detroit began its decline in 1971, when the auto industry was taken over by bean counters and the engineers and designers were put in their place. Decontenting plus price hikes benefited the shareholders and executives. They blame the UAW. Monsters.

            • Juicer77

              But you gotta admit, Mr. Kilpatrick brought a whole new level of skeevy to the mayor’s office!

            • daytoncapri

              I am considering a bicycle excursion in Detroit this summer. Seriously. http://www.bbc.com/travel/story/20140821-cycling-detroit-makes-too-much-sense-to-ignore

            • Baby

              Really? Group in that area yes.. Hubby and I took the Detroit Cruise and was so scared to go to the Parking lot afterwards..

              We didn’t know the ship didn’t move until we went on top of the deck and it was still docked because of the weather..hahahhaah.. Good God.

              Actually we should have been scared on the cruise.

            • daytoncapri

              Well, I am still thinking about it. But the Slow Roll has drawn of lot of attention, and I am a cyclist. Looks pretty cool in the photos. http://slowrolldetroit.starchapter.com/index.php

            • Baby

              That does look fun dayton.

              I’m the last person you should talk to..

              1. Hate to Cycle Too Lazy
              2. Not a Joiner
              3. Not a Detroit Fan
              4. Do NOT like crowds.

              Other than that I would enjoy it myself.

            • daytoncapri

              As they, the selling begins after the customer says no. 😉

      • You know you’re not going to get a straight answer.

    • Toledo? Are you kidding me?

      • Baby

        Seriously.. Would I claim Toledo if I wasn’t 100% .. Meh

        • Kestrel

          Yes, but would you claim Sandusky?

          • Baby

            Upper Sandusky or regular near Fremont? Been to Sandusky state park a thousand times..( in my youth)

            • Kestrel

              I’m thinking of the part of town where I won a 12-pack in a pool tournament. Things got fuzzy after that. I seem to recall a stand-alone building and you could get a beer and a shot for cheap. I was younger then.

            • Baby

              Hmmm…I’m sure I’ve been it..or kicked out of it in one time of my life..

          • Baby

            Findlay?

            • Kestrel

              Findlay? Isn’t that where the buzzards go? How DARE you! I’m a raptor, not a scavenger! 😉

            • Baby

              hahahhaha Isn’t that Hinkley?

            • Fostoria?

            • Baby

              Uh Yea.. but don’t hold that against me..

            • Lima?

            • Baby

              Yep.. family worked at Tank Plant.. My dad coached in Spencerville..

    • Bavarian Rage

      Awww! I’ll keep ya company in the car, Betty. I’m a bit of a reserved, non-adventurous soul myself, and am quite content letting the gregarious Baby-types live on the edge tell us a lively tale afterwards! Thanks being the life of our car-party, Baby! We all need each other.

      PS – Your description is picturesque poetry, BTW. You transported me there.

      • Baby

        Betty is the sweetest person you will ever meet Rage.. Seriously. She is fun AND eloquent at the same time. Something that I have always aspired to, but never achieved. I can’t pull it off.

        I blab away.. and then when I’m mellow people around me say.. ” What’s wrong.. ? Are you OK? I know you ..this isn’t you.. ”

        Or if I pause .. ( I’m thinking) and friends are like.. ” What’s going on?”

        She can pause and be sweet.. me? I pause and I’m disturbed..sigh..

        Bavarian Rage.. You could not be sweeter..I often think.. ” OMG I told ANOTHER story.. !” I try to make it later after the Scientology Only crowd leaves..hahahaha

        • vicariousthrill

          Blab away, Baby, because you have a gift for making people feel like they matter. Funny you see yourself that way, from where I sit, you seem quite precious.

          • Baby

            Oh thrill.. That made me feel good..really.. tears streaming.. because I needed that..

            Just went over to Rinder’s blog and reading the stories .. they are just so tragic and heartbreaking.. Then I come over for a breather and read this beautiful comment.

            I have never ( That I remember) been described as precious before.

            Perfect timing. Thank you so very much.. xo baby

    • sashiebgood

      Unfortunately, it sounds like it might have been Whitney Covington you saw.or if not her,some other poor soul thrown away by the cult. I really wonder how many of the kids who’ve been raised in such a harsh environment end up on the skids.I know it’s a numbers game,some will prosper in adversity and some will fall, but there’s something so sinister about throwing your family members away just for talking to someone who talked to someone who the church calls an SP,

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        A twisted version of six degrees of separation from Kevin Bacon.

      • Baby

        I worked with the homeless and unfortunately I worked with my share of prostitutes. I would refer them for counseling.. work training etc.. shelters.

        Sashie.. I wouldn’t doubt it for a second that Ex Scientologist are thrown to the wolves. It was near the Hospital ( hooker) at the crosswalk.

        A few blocks away was the carryout .. with very suspicious people lurking. Just tragic. Clearwater is a very sick city. The Beach area of course is thriving.. but Downtown? A ghost town with many secrets.

  • Simi Valley

    I just read this story for like the third time. Makes you wonder about the huge number of train wrecks and derailed lives as this freakin’ cult falls apart.

    • TexasBroad

      It’s a tough thought to ponder. So damn many.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Makes you marvel at them. Seems infinite.

  • iampissed

    We seem to be working a little OT so I feel I can and my 2 cents worth. Name the date and event.
    Guerrero crashed in turn two of the opening lap. Funny it seems to keep happening.

  • Hey Tony, in case if something happens tomorrow, like this blog will be broken from all the traffic or whatever, before your next post, you should totally email me all the info right about now, as a back up plan. You are welcome.

    • Kestrel

      As always, you are a paragon of thoughtfulness, DodoTheLaser.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      *what’s the secret password to get in?*

      • “get in”

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Mr. Hole would have a fit if he saw that! hah

          • Eivol Ekdal

            I like Mr. Hole more every day.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              He’s studying programming stuff right now. Why can’t he have a mid life crisis and have an affair and bankrupt us on a red sports car like everyone else? Why?

            • TexasBroad

              Mr Broad got a lathe. I’m expecting some nice bowls soon.
              He really likes being called Mr. Broad. *Half smile / SMH *

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Swapping, still a thing? I have a growing list of stuff that could use a good man with a lathe. Need any tech stuff done?

            • TexasBroad

              No…ex-Broad is big IT guy so that’s covered. But if I could tap my feet while you sang me a song, Mr Broad will to turn whatever you’d like.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Bwahahahah. Okay, now I gotta see to Mr. Hole’s lunch for tomorrow and explain why we won’t be going out at 7 am tomorrow morning. 🙂

            • MissCandle

              Who wants to out at 7 a.m. anyway? …unless it’s a walk on the beach…

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              We’ve been trying to rewire so we’re up at 5:30 am regularly. Mornings are our busiest times to get all kinds of stuff done.

            • Eivol Ekdal

              I am so jealous, when I grew up we had a room in the basement called “The Shop” it had a pegboard with all my Dad’s tools ,table saw, bench grinder etc. Now I rent with no room to make a mess.
              Last time I visited home the shop was looking a bit neglected…

            • TexasBroad

              I see Miss Lovely!!! But it took me a minute. My dad had all his tools outlined in sharpie on the pegboard so they would go back in their proper place. I rather prefer this freestyle.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Every man should have a room/garage like that.

            • Frodis73

              That pic takes me back to childhood…I can even smell it!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              What’s her name? Ms. Tools…..Pro Tools.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              hah funnee. This is the other broad, Miss Sqwirl.

            • Computer programming? Perhaps a ‘phone call with edward’ could cure that mid life crisis? 😀 He’ll never look at computers the same way again after some of those questions and arguments!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Pardon me, is there a class for computer de-programming?

            • LOL!!!! 😀

            • Juicer77

              XD

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Guhlaxy.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          He spilled, Dodo!

          I have been trying to decide off and on if Dave is going to stick around to be spanked by his own dad on national TV and likely internationally within the following weeks to come.

          I don’t see it. Think he’ll announce the SMP opening as his gift to mankind and from now on he’ll just be phoning it in from some remote island, or planet?

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            New Era Target Two for Dictators : Tahiti?

          • pluvo

            he’ll announce the SMP opening as his gift to mankind

            Yep, and that it is (monu)mental… milestone…epic… . then he will submerge… in the Caribbean.

          • Mark Allen Shreck

            been wondering that myself…does he repeat his predecessor and sail around in international waters to avoid the growing scrutiny?

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            From Target Rue?

    • He just might fall for it.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Don’t worry, the story will be in before Thursday at 2pm.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I have ten minutes to conjure up a darn good reason to tell Mr Hole why we are Not going to be at a certain place at 7 am in the morning like we had planned.

        • TexasBroad

          Tropical Storm Tony??

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            out of season. Wait! Climate warming – Season now starts April 21. Thanks. Actually we lived thru the No Named Storm which was out of season. I think he’ll buy it. I’ll have cookies out just in case. Distraction tech.

            • sashiebgood

              El Nino. Done.

  • And Trump to be on the new two dollar bill.
    Thanks Obama.
    Tubman replacing Jackson on the $20
    (Can’t we just forget history once and for all?
    Ya know so we can just keep repeating all those great mistakes?)
    http://www.politico.com/story/2016/04/treasurys-lew-to-announce-hamilton-to-stay-on-10-bill-222204

    • Nat-leficent

      It’s a luxury to forget history as herstory has never been told at all. We will not continue to be invisible. Sorry. Not sorry.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        *preach it!*

      • So I take it that you are voting for Trump.
        (An example of how to completely miss someone’s point, and misinterpret it in the worse way possible)

        • Nat-leficent

          Maybe work on making a point rather than being inscrutable .

  • JaxNGold

    Damn good story today. As I was reading, I had to go back and re-read certain parts just to keep a lot of the names straight in my head. Very intricate and fascinating story. But what a depressing mess. Made me angry and sad. Can’t wait to read tomorrow’s bit…

    • Bavarian Rage

      Yes, juicy…until you remember that these are real life people, not a soap opera. That’s when I get sad too. (Had to backtrack/reread too to connect all dots.)

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I think we all had to do that – backtrack after we got mad, go back, then got sad. Then saw that teaser ending …

  • cdub

    How their family came apart? Easy: Scientology. Family destroyer. After all, your birth parents are totally disassociated from yourself! So says their weird religion.

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Tony, you are such a tease. Big meanie ending the story on a cliffhanger like that. 😀
    Dont like waiting. *stomp stomp*

    • Ella Raitch

      He did give us a marvellous three-pager the other day so we can’t be too cross with him

  • Eivol Ekdal
    • salin

      OMG – read the second comment (there are only 2).

      Hi OSA – your ‘agent’s’ words read like crazy talk. Not doing your PR efforts any favors.

      • Looks more like a Freezooner.

        • Robert Eckert

          Agreed.

      • Frodis73

        Holy shit! A science? I don’t know why I still get so worked up by these idiots sometimes…science? In what world? help us.

  • MaxSpaceman
    • PerpetualOutflow

      I had the same thought. She was so bright eyed and beautiful before.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Strikingly so, yes.

    • Narapoid

      13 years of the worst emotional trials I could only imagine. Hey, that is cool! I didn’t know linking like that was possible! Thanks Max

  • salin

    One more reminder – recommend today’s UB content. 13 more upvotes – hits the bit 200.

    This time the sky photo (ala NASA’s Spaceweather.com) – a comet – or perhaps this is the real target two? Is Long Con Ron hurdling through the sky scape? (Facetious comment) http://spaceweathergallery.com/full_image.php?image_name=JosAc-J.-ChambAsup3-Bris-2013US10_160409_1200_1461145224.jpg

  • sashiebgood

    “If he dies, he dies,” Miscavige reportedly said. (The Church of Scientology has denied everything about the report, calling it “provable bullshit,” but hasn’t offered any proof of that.)

    One of the best lines ever written.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      It hasn’t offered any of the proof, but it has offered the bullshit in spades.

  • TexasBroad

    This multi-faceted story has taken me different places throughout the day. Right now I am in chewing on what moved Ron Sr. to write this…not what tipped him over that edge- as Tony explained that, but what got him to that edge? Anger? That would certainly be understandable. A hope to end the abuse? To dismantle the church? Retribution? Guilt? I hope to find these answers in this book.

    • pluvo

      The disconnection of his daughters.

      • TexasBroad

        Yes…that was what tipped him. But he didn’t write it sooner to protect that relationship…in other words, that explains his motivation for NOT writing it. That he lost his daughters freed him to do it. It could be anger about the disconnection though. That would be understandable.

        • pluvo

          He had enough of Dave being ruthless and messing with his life and other people’s lives?

          • TexasBroad

            If it did, I didn’t mean my comment to sound like I thought he had questionable motives. Absolutely the opposite. There are so very many understandable reasons. I’m just interested in his journey out and all that brought him to making the mysterious call we will read about tomorrow.

  • willloomis

    David Miscavige is the ultimate SP, especially if that means “Small Person”

  • It hurts to read these story’s on Rinders blog today. So dear to us guys stuck in there for so long. So grateful for anons, compassionate reporters and book writers and you all here pitch’in in to get the truth out. It really feels good to know it won’t be for long now.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Really good post and comments there today. Great one from Espi. He actually behaves himself over there. He’d hate that I even said that right now.

      • Frodis73

        Mike has come a long way and it’s been awesome to watch. you really notice it when you go back and read posts from his first year or so. He’s written some of his best posts this 6-12 mos too.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          It’s been a wonderful transformation.

          • Frodis73

            Do you watch the unbreakable kimmie on netflix? I heard your comment in that guys voice from the theme show…he says ‘fascinating transition’ but…lol. Dammit!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Never seen it.

            • Frodis73

              Figures…lol. Watch the first ep if you have netflix…it’s funny and it’s sorta about escaping a cult.

          • richelieu jr

            Amen, brother!

      • beauty for ashes

        He just has the best descriptors, kinda miss that terrible mouth of his sometimes.

        • Baby

          Well shit..I try to make up for it beauty..xo

          • beauty for ashes

            “I want an Indie, who believes every little wet fart that came out of Hubbard’s ass, to justify this behavior. You can’t. Yet it’s the vaunted Tech and therefore infallible, right?” -Espi

    • Indeed. The comment below on Biggi Reichert especially caught my attention.
      Haven’t heard these details before, aside of the OT 8 suicide and some burn marks.
      Dox are needed.

      “Biggi Reichert had a complaint as an OT 8 and 16 million in debt ,went to Flag to sort it out. Was given Chloral Hydrate and stabbed 7 times in the head with a handheld stun gun. Dopped up to the gills she was escorted on a flight back to Germany where she committed suicide couple days later.” http://www.mikerindersblog.org/pts-type-iii/#comment-129822

      • Baby

        Sigh.. I don’t know if I can handle it now..

      • richelieu jr

        I read ‘coffer’ as ‘coffin’ and got a little warm feeling in my heart.

        At least the miniscule vector if diseased thinking and rains of tiny pink fists won’t be able to take it with him when he goes. I hope he gets buried because I have been looking for someplace to organize spontaneous ‘group pissings’ on the Net, where everyone shows up at once; drops trou and gives DM his ‘refund’.

    • Frodis73

      I just had to share these 2 comments for anybody that doesn’t read all the comments. I included the first comment so the 2nd would make more sense. The woo is strong…

      Mike, I was reminded, in reading your comments about the
      destructive potential of wogs and SPs on Scientologists’ most delicate
      spirituality, of something Scientology has in common with related
      thought systems. What I refer to is the panoply of magical thinking
      collectively referred to by detractors as “woo.” Merchants of these
      notions often assign blame for the failures under scrutiny (testing) to
      the presence and interference of non-believers, with their oh so
      destructive negativity. Time and again when dousing, ESP, remote
      sensing, etc are tested under controlled conditions, or are proposed for
      such testing, the purveyors and practitioners of this woo will make the
      excuse that their magic can’t operate in the presence of scoffers, who
      ruin everything.

      Reply
      thegman77 says
      April 20, 2016 at 8:11 pm

      Actually, current controlled conditions have found (repeatedly)
      that this “woo” (terrific scientific term) works in many instances. If,
      however, one goes into it already convinced that it’s “unreal”, none of
      it will ever register as being legitimate. It’s a form of mindblock no
      different than scio.

      • Robert Eckert

        What’s woo is what’s woo for you.

      • Kim O’Brien

        this is why we can’t have nice things

        • Frodis73

          Damn straight! That and the idiot saying how sci and dianetics are an advanced science. Fuck me.

      • Satansthetan

        May I recommend the movie, “An Honest Liar”?

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Some truly horrifying and heartbreaking stories. And a chilling document that Mike shared.

      I feel like I us these adjectives a lot when talking about scientology–horrifying, heartbreaking, chilling. I’m gonna need a new thesaurus soon. No wonder Hubbard needed his own dictionary.

      • MaxSpaceman

        And his word clearing tech:

        the misunderstood. Sh1t mind-fuck that is.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Indeed. I think study tech in general is a lot more dangerous than it’s usually acknowledged to be. You can’t have proper indoctrination without it.

    • Willie Jones

      HERE HERE!!!

    • richelieu jr

      Glad to hear you are out, @CeceMSmith:disqus!

      I imagine a few poor souls inside the belly of Hubbard’s beast, huddled arounda make-shift campfire à la the one in Pinocchio, trying to keep their heads down to help their loved one,s yet suffering each twisted blow all the more for the painful cracking pf the cognitive dissonance that has been giving them Smiley-Migraines for years, decades… lives…

      Thanks too for the appreciation of some of s ‘never-ins’. As one NI who has accomplished little (certainly less than I have hoped–so far….), I appreciate a bit of respect for once. MArty’s referrifn tus as ‘grouies’ famously put me through the ceiling in anger. We =amy not have done much to hurt the church in the individual granular level (again- YET– One could have sad the dame for Alex Gibney a year or so ago…), but we can be proud to have not spent our adult lives attempt to,g to implement slavery, indentured servitude, human trafficking and mind-control first in the ‘Church’ but with the goal of taking over countries and then ‘clearing the planet’ through what Hubbard clearly paints as Genocide, then, once out, in the service of rehabilitating Hubbard’s reputation and clearly grooming himself as Miscavige’s replacement (and LYING, LYING, LYING publicly about it).

      Then, he seemed to change. I am convinced of his sincerity and the reality of this journey he s on, and i was surprised, then moved very deeply.

      And, yet, you can take the sang-arm out of Scientology, but you cannot take the Scientology out og im so easily. He actually seems to believe he is famous for fighting some sort of crusade,a s a Scientology Warrior and as some sort of moral crusader, rather than a guy who dished it out until it came his turn to take it, THEN he split, not before.
      Not before destroying evidence in a murder investigation (at least one that we know of)

      I wish him well, as I wish all of you who have been so deeply marked by he vicious game Hubbard played on all of you. It is along and hard journey, perhaps more than anything I have ever experienced.. I don’t know..

      Wtill, I fell that there is flip side to his feeligthat he still deserves to be on top, to be the Star, nit the ‘Glowly ‘groupie’ by virtue of ONE THING:

      WHO HE WAS in the COS.

      Important Man then, Important Man now.

      What scare me is ho reflexively exScientologists accept this. Yes, he DESERVES TO LEAD; Yes, he DESERVED TO BE LISTENED TO… because..?

      Because he was the enforcer for a twisted midget heading a Stalinist organization run on crushed souls, destroyed families and frittered college educations to lean how to play with PlayDoh, yell at ashtrays, accuse each other of homosexuality, threaten teenage girls physically, intimidate and force young women to have abortions (on our dime, fellow taxpayers!) and in the end to let David Miscavige get away witht he kidnaping and torture murder odf ayoung woman. He brags in his books that he knew Miscavige was worng about ehr/ Which make him WORSE than Miscavige on this issue, not better. CoB is such a raving megalomaniac he believes simply saying things makes them come true.
      I this, we have the proof of a real Scientologist. LRH! Lives! Mission Accomplished!

      Sorry for the rant– it seems an inevitable deformation of my self-expression these days (Perhaps the CoS has a course for that?); I am truly glad you are out!

  • Baby

    Tony could you have gotten a bigger cast of characters for today’s Post?
    Dramatis personæ .. I needed a Character page.. Just sayin.. ( Don’t jump all over me.. ) Word UP.

    • PerpetualOutflow

      It really was an amazing post today!

      • Baby

        Amazing! I must admit I had to read it twice.. but that is the way I process information.
        ( That I care about)

        • beauty for ashes

          everyone said the same thing. no shame baby!

          • Baby

            OH did they? I didn’t get to read all the posts.. just went to the newest.. crazy day..
            Thanks Beauty! I thought it was just me..ha.. Thinking of you sweetheart.

            • beauty for ashes

              They said that too!

            • MaxSpaceman

              The story is thick with characters in a narrative that stretches across time.

              Most readers struggle with long pieces, be they here or the New Yorker, or the New York Review of Books, which is, well…. it’s natural for nearly everyone to struggle the same as you’ve said.

              Maybe a few, people like Christopher Hitchens, would read through it quicker than you could imagine he read it all; then tell you the story with analysis, and comments on the characters and various plot twists.

              But they’re one in a _____(big big number_____ million.

            • Baby

              Awww thanks Max..

              I tried to diagram it with M&Ms but kept eating them.

            • daisy

              See now that is the way to make a meaningful grapgh I just used pen to paper.I have no imagination..

            • Baby

              Hahaha.. Girl what are YOU talkin bout.. You still have Xmas presents yet to open. You are just imagining what is in them.. OK.. back to Rinder’s.. Break over for me.

            • daisy

              One day we meet and understand everything we say, no matter how confused we might be. I hope that days is soon. LOVES to you always Baby.

            • Baby

              Oh Daisy you always make me laugh..You and your fat beagle! loves to you back..

            • Juicer77

              LOL!

        • PerpetualOutflow

          It was dense. I think we all did.

          • Baby

            OH good..cause I felt dense while reading it Perp.. ha

            • PerpetualOutflow

              😀

    • Draco

      I drew up a family tree to keep them straight in my head!

      • Baby

        hahahah.. good one..

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You and me both. So… I set one up.

  • Frodis73

    OT, but totally cool Batman! I just found out my friends dad played Cochella w/ Joe Walsh. To bring it back to cults Glen was in a cult for years…
    http://www.cleveland.com/entertainment/index.ssf/2016/04/joe_walsh_glenn_schwartz_join.html

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpaDn48dLBU&feature=youtu.be

    • Baby

      That is cool doggie..

    • Robert Eckert

      I read that as “my friend’s dad played Chess w/ Joe Walsh”

  • Baby

    O/T When I talk about Wildlife where I live.. I just found this on my island’s FB .. ( Look how close they are to the house..) It’s like 3 min. away from me..( 3 Bobcats)

    And yes.. all of us here have encroached on their land.. it is so sad. f5

    • We have them here also. Respect is what they rightly deserve.

      • Baby

        Absolutely.. Between the Coyotes and the Bobcats people are getting trigger happy.. We can reside in peace.

        I have seen plenty of coyotes when I’m out riding my scooter around this time ( 2am) .. they don’t bother me..I don’t bother them.

        • Baby

          ( but they do spook me at times) I must admit.

          EDIT: Not like the R word.

          • Draco

            “The bobcat breeds from winter into spring and has a gestation period of about two months.”
            Maybe you will get to see some Bob-kitties soon 🙂

            • Baby

              Awww.. I will look.. I know they are cute little rascals.. awwwwwww..

  • daisy

    OT – ( really am I ever on topic ) It was a lovely spring day and mom has been house bound all winter. We went for a short wallk and on our return, we had difficulty negotiating the stairs. It is more fear than falter that made her end up on all fours. I was trying to figure out how to get her up when my neighbour rushed over to help. Mom was fine , no bruises etc. Later on than same neighbour brought US a beautiful bouquet of spring flowers.. She is also part of the reason Fat beagle is fat as she and her 6 yr old bring her treats everyday. Scientology the worst that people can offter society, ordinary people the best.

    • Baby

      Oh poor mama.. that is scary Daisy.. sigh.. You are such a sweet daughter. What a neighbor ! How sweet.

      Maybe I’m missing out here by being so isolated.. ** Looking around..** Nah.. I’m OK..

      • daisy

        No it is not usually scary, her falls are similar to my skiing. I falter cause I lose my nerve so I slowly kinda of sit down. instead of the blood bath I imagine if I continue. I have no problem lifting her but from a flat surface, but she was on stairs . The only fear I have with her is her seizures, because she just dropped from wherever she is, ( and I know we are in for a week where she thinks everyone is Justn Beiber -lol ) You enjoy your isolation ( I am not sure I would with bobcats in my yard )

    • Juicer77

      Glad she’s ok! Your neighbor is awesome, but you knew that. 🙂

  • Here is one of the comments posted today on Rinder’s with that procedure to be done when handling a PTS Type III (one of Ron’s terms for someone suppressed to a point of insanity): I know it’s sad to read but it’s the reality – the insanity of the situation.

    “Unfortunately I have been intimately involved with two “Type III” individuals during the years 80’s-90’s. Both ended up dead. One by shotgun to her mouth, one by escaping the 24hr watch confinement and getting shredded by a snowplow walking alongside the road in an Alaskan snowstorm. Both under constant near hourly supervision by OSA, specifically Ann Rubles, DSA Seattle.

    The write up includes finding a secluded home, preferably miles from others. What a fucking joke. In Alaska we took a couple out of their cabin and brought them to live with us while all of us, a handful of staff, including the couple and myself and wife were put on 24hour watch. These people are trained at best minimally, usually merely verbally, no medical staff, no doctor, no medications, no monitoring vitals, no facility.

    If you are a gambler, you should bet a lot of money that is standard procedure across the Scio culture.

    Scientology has nothing to help the insane except that pulls others out of their normal lives and subjects them to something they have no idea how to deal with. No facility, and no medical help. If you manage to get them to an MD [friend] who prescribes a sedative, it is shut down by OSA.

    Scientologists rail on psychiatry as a whole across the boards. Yet they alone have the facilities, medical staff, medical monitoring, food, water, exercise, group involvement. Educated family and friends can and of course should monitor and curb any medication abuse. They are more likely to come out alive than any “Type III” treatment in my bonafide opine.”

    • Baby

      Tragic..

      One thing I gleaned from Hubs bullshit..

      Take them far away so that NO one will see or hear them. And it would be much easier to ” Cover -up ” if necessary..

      As a former Mental Health Counselor.. I just am sickened.

      I hold all Celebrities of Scientology responsible. You are in the REAL world.. You listen..you hear.. you get disconnection notices from others telling you to NOT talk to so and so because he is God Forbid an SP..

      Do YOUR FUCKIN HOMEWORK. I’m sick of it. There are people in the SO who are working like slaves..

      HOW MANY BOOKS, MOVIES, TV programs … Have to be written for you to have a CLUE about what is going on in your Damn Church?

      Comedians are making jokes and people are laughing. What are they laughing about? and why do others Get it and NOT you? It’s all real. Wake up.. Wake UP..

      You are using your critical mind to figure out every day life. You are being used. You are being promoted. Your fellow parishioners are being disconnected and abused.

      What kind of person does that make you..? And I don’t want to hear one person ( Celebrities) mention that they are living in a Bubble. It is getting old. It is 2016.. Celebrities and all.. WAKE UP..

      • Snuzey

        That needs plastering all over the internet and shoved in their faces. You’re right, its appalling.

        • Baby

          Thank you Snuzey.. You can tell I was pissed. As much as I understand Mind Control/ brain washing indoctrination ..

          Some days I want to SCREAM…( AND I DO!) Appalling is right!

    • aquaclara

      How awful. More Lisas. I had no idea. It’s just so up fathomable that they could intentionally want to harm people, and yet the evidence is all here, from those who know.

      FBI, where are you?

    • richelieu jr

      So sorry for your experiences, and I hope you have someone to talk to…

      You know for Lisa McPherson, they made sure her guards,didn’t even speak English.

  • Xenu is my Homeboy

    Chris Shelton has part 4 of his talk with his mom up:

    https://twitter.com/sheltondesigner/status/723038458189611008

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    For those having trouble keeping track of the Who’s Who in the Miscavige clan, here is a simplified family tree. I left out the children from Robert and Heather Covington’s previous marriages, and added in Ron Jr., his wife and child, as well as Shelly (Michelle Barnett Miscavige). Hope this is helpful and my apologies if I got anything wrong:

    (refresh)

    • Baby

      So where in the hell have you been Mr DDD? For the past 21 hrs? Jeeze

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Some. Of. Us. WORK…!

        • Baby

          Well.. then there is that.. ( face red..) smooches..

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            And me already in bed…

            • Baby

              Ohh.. are you flirting with me..bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahaha

              Seriously.. that is an outstanding job.. ( PS give it to Mr. O..) PLeeeeeease

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I will post it again early tomorrow. Or later today, truth to tell. Anyway, I will connect it to the next installment.

            • Draco

              Baby, isn’t it nearly 4 am where you are? Are you still having trouble sleeping?

            • Baby

              Yes it is.. No Draco..I’m on my summer schedule.. I go to bed around 6am and get up around 2-3pm.. Actually they are great hrs.

              When I have company I adjust.. dogs cuddle with me.

            • Draco

              Oh my. You keep techie (IT Guys) hours. They write code throughout the night, when no-one is around to bother them, and then sleep half the day.

            • Baby

              Yep! actually I have always been a night owl. But I do have insomnia of course.. but that’s ok.. I’m used to it.. I just sleep when I’m sleepy..

    • Andrew Robertson

      Thank you Mr D! That is very helpful.

      Andrew

    • Draco

      Thank you 3XD!
      I have saved that in my Bunker file 🙂

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I am now intrigued enough to want to go back and do a really proper one with dates and extensions. Some day I will do that in my copious free time…

        • Draco

          Oh goody! We will wait patiently 🙂

        • Sine qua non

          Yeah, get on it ASAP! 😊 Very interesting. One thought: it would be nice, if you are able to expand this, to note divorces (in addition to disconnections) along with the divorce dates, and maiden names, if possible. Thanks again!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            I don’t think there is screen large enough, even with side scrolling…!

      • Baby

        Uhm Draco you have a Bunker File? Oh..of course I do too.. yep.. sure I do..now where did I put that file..hmmmm…

        • Draco

          Not a physical one. But yes, on my laptop …
          Is that weird? I thought everybody had one!
          ;P

          • Graham

            I’ve got one. Mine’s labelled ‘Scientology’

          • Baby

            OMG I just love you.. I knew it was on your laptop silly.. bawwwwwwhahhahhahaha

            Yes.. I do too.. I keep it of all gifs.. downloads..

            • Draco

              See then? We are all normal! Haha. Except for this little obsession we all have…
              😀

            • Baby

              ” Yeah.. So what do you do for hobbies..”

              ” Oh I .. uhm… I errrr …. I am a critic for Scientology..”

              (Husband panics wants to cover my mouth.. turns red..)

              ” Oh YOU are a Scientologist? ”

              ( Husband.. OMG NO.. Abort conversation.. Please..)

              ” Uh no I’m against them..”

              ” Oh that’s Nice.. Pass the nuts please..”

              ( Husband.. wipes brow.. Crisis Averted ( For now)

          • Andrew Robertson

            Not unusual at all. I have binders full of wom… I mean Bunker denizens with all their overdue library fines and other whole track crimes recorded. Not unusual at all! Might be useful some day.

            Andrew

            • Baby

              and those that PFffffffffft at Scn. and banned from library..sigh

    • Graham

      Many thanks DDD. So ten out of eighteen being shunned. I assume the names with a thicker line round them are deceased?

    • aquaclara

      Fine work, Douglas D. And adding in the known disconnections….how painful to see this (especially since the one who controls it is right there on the chart).

      Thank you!

  • Baby

    OK.. I laughed when I read this over at Rinder’s.. hahahha..

    The gman77 wrote :
    Mike: Apologies for the wrong spelling of Christi’s name yesterday.

    Mike Rinder says
    No problem — a lot of people get it wrong. It is Christie.

    • richelieu jr

      I think they even spelled it wrong when they crucified him, didn’t they?

      😉

    • Robert Eckert

      As long as nobody calls her Kirstie

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Buckle up Bunkeroos!

  • Draco

    Tick tock … is it just me, or has time slowed down?

  • Steph

    My kids went to school in NH with Whitney, Taylor and other Miscavige cousins. Whitney was the sweetest girl with a big heart and good nature. This is so sad. Her mom is a skank just like her uncle DM. Lori was great to work with. Such a shame this family torn apart.

  • richelieu jr

    Tony O, I do believe you are getting the hang of this ‘You are there!” narrative flow thing!

    I have always admired your reporting, your shoe-leather, stamina and level-headed for the most part) and your simple “Joe Friday-meets John Doe at brass-tacks and simple facts” convention (not a lot of people at the convention, I imagine 😉 )– Your credibility and the inescapable sexiness of the subject (complete with ‘frisson’ of ‘danger’) were always enough to carry the day, and you included each day (and every Sunday) a large dose of your sardonic, poe-faced humour. I can never get enough (subtle) irony in my diet, and The Bunker has always been a excellent source.

    HOWEVER, this is new page for you. I think ‘Miss Lovely” and your publisher’s advice really hit home with you, and now these sort of stories really flow and pop! Your book was a great read and I honestly find your prose bettet here at times, and improving day by day.

    ON THE OTHER HAND–
    Speaking of narrative tropes– A CLIFFHANGER?!!!

    You dirty son of an CoB!
    You had to pick that one yup? For the love of Xenu, why not scaring us with cats jumping out of lockers and compressed air? Gross-out effects of eyeballs and spaggetti guts? Perhaps a nude scene? Full Frontal Hubbard?
    Will you open the cyst on his corpse’s head to see if it is still alive (and looking for a book deal?) Perhaps it is hzthe ‘television’ gig that is sexing up your gotchas and gets?

    All that to say, I am really impressed and continue to be surprised by ow resourceful you are in a field of nearly One.

    Well, you got me, you bastard, and I am sure I am not alone in salivating for tomorrow’s edition!

  • EnthralledObserver

    It strikes me more and more just how small the circle of important players is when it comes to the scandal of $cientology… to steal a phrase.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Gee, I sure hope Lisa doesn’t join Ron on a televised book tour talking about DISCONNECTION policies.

    What’s that I hear? Sounds like a last gasp.

    Time for that Last Rites ceremony, Scientology. Oh, don’t forget to turn over over those billions in blood money back to all those who you damaged, devastated and destroyed. You know, for the greatest good.

    http://i.imgur.com/jGXHFvb.jpg?1

    • dungeon master

      I really would like to see that money go into receivership and paid back to those who made them, similar to what they’re doing with certain flds money lots.

  • sizzle8

    Here’s a chart:

  • Antonia Willis

    Sorry again for taking refuge in tony Ortega’s safe space: re Mappin in Cornwall,
    “correspondence:

    To: ‘John Mappin’

    Subject: RE: From John Mappin

    Oh wow! Thank you John, & I mean that genuinely. I go abroad every summer so advertise for potential rentals, and hadn’t been told I had one for this year. That’s great (but hardly in the same business bracket as yours). I must call Forgotten Houses tomorrow to congratulate them.

    But if you’re desperately hunting round for a reason to cast dubious motives on my previous comments to you, I’m afraid it’s no dice. I wish to hurt no-one, but I do wish for a sane and honest atmosphere in Cornish tourism in general. You shouldn’t clutter my inbox with weird letters having telephoned me at home, or expect me to accept potentially forged letters from an Arab supporter, or indeed embarrass Cornwall by pretending that you can hand out knighthoods. If you really want to threaten me with a law suit go ahead; you will only make yourself look foolish.

    Antonia

    From: John Mappin [mailto:johnmappin@camelotcastle.com]

    Sent: 21 April 2016 15:46

    To: antonia@tregarden.com

    Subject: Re: From John Mappin

    Dear Antonia,

    I agree, but to your points.

    It would seem that for someone who is not in the tourist business you are doing quite well on advanced bookings for this year 2016. ( Well done, lovely looking property and French Bulldogs. )

    http://www.forgottenhouses.co.uk/properties/tregarden-st-mabyn/

    According to this website it would seem there are £3501 or 3501 reasons a week that you might have such a motive.

    Perhaps this is an internet falsehood and a misrepresentation so I would not assume just from that, by my own creed, that you are in the tourist, Holiday letting business at this time.

    As a research tool the internet, blogs, articles, films and movies are notorious for being unreliable and inaccurate this is especially true with regard to myself, Ted Camelot Castle and Scientology reporting.

    The sources that many reports are based on are on the whole discredited and the data is wholly untrue in many cases one false report having built upon another for years.

    Internet researchers on these two subjects, in my experience tend to be very sloppy with their facts and make classic false assumptions.

    Which begs the interesting legal question is one liable for repeating a libel or for repeating a falsehood that is defamatory.

    You can look into this yourself but I found this.

    This is the US viewpoint.

    http://www.defamationremovallaw.com/liability-repeating-defamatory-statement/

    And this from the UK “Basic Libel for idiots.”

    “Anyone who repeats allegations can also be sued. This is important. Seeing something written somewhere else doesn’t mean it is true. Repeating allegations without making sure they are true is a very good way to get yourself knee deep in litigation.”

    The above link and data may help you think twice about what you have been doing.

    Thank you for your good wishes all is going great here and again we wish you a good summer.

    Kind regards,

    John Mappin

    On 21 Apr 2016, at 09:41, antonia@tregarden.com wrote:

    Dear John,

    I agree that further correspondence is unlikely to be productive. I would just like to point out that I haven’t run a holiday letting here for a long time, so I have absolutely no commercial or any other motive for harming your business: further, I have said nothing defamatory or inaccurate about you, and whilst you might not like what I have said about scientology, there’s nothing there that you won’t find in tens of thousands of blogs, articles, films & movies anywhere on the internet.

    I wish you luck with your endeavours,

    Antonia

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I like when someone has the ability to take such a good mug shot. Thank god mine were before they became permanent on the internet.

  • Sylvia Wagner DeWall

    Whitney’s been friends with my daughter since they were kids. Her recent destructive path breaks my heart. Whitney, our family will always be here for you.