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Phil and Willie Jones launch a new effort for billboard about Scientology disconnection

 
Phil and Willie are back! After putting up billboards that call attention to Scientology’s ‘disconnection’ policy in Los Angeles and Largo, Florida last year, Phil and Willie Jones say they’re launching a new effort to get their billboard put up again in L.A. And that’s where you come in.

This morning, Phil has launched a new gofundme page to raise money for a new run of the “Call Me” billboard. His goal is $10,000, which will keep the billboard up for about three months. And given the media interest for Scientology right now, we have a feeling that another billboard launch will get some attention.

Last year, our readers helped raise the money for Phil’s first billboard, in the L.A. neighborhood of Los Feliz. Two billboard companies offered him contracts, but then rescinded their offers when they came under heavy attack from Scientology. But Phil found a third company that was willing to stand up to Scientology’s pressure.

The billboard has a simple message, asking Scientologists to call their loved ones in defiance of the church’s disconnection policy. Nothing negative is said about Scientology itself. But just asking Scientologists to call home was apparently enough of a threat that the church expended a lot of energy in trying keep Phil from putting it up. We have a feeling they’ll try to stop this effort as well, and if so, we’ll report on it.

Here’s Phil’s message about this new campaign:

We had an amazing year last year. We did some protesting around Scientology properties that created a bit of a stir at the time. We put out a “missing” poster on one of our kids who we haven’t seen in some years and was last seen at the Scientology Celebrity Center. And we set up the “Call Me” billboards in two different cities. Out of that we got a ton of interviews with television, radio, and print media. Our message went global. And our message was about the abuse of families by Scientology with their practice of disconnection.

Putting up another billboard now has to do a lot with timing. We did the first one, in Los Angeles, last spring and then one in the summer in Clearwater. At the time, we did get international press but we didn’t feel we could keep that pace up and maintain interest. We did do some additional on the ground protesting after that in Los Angeles around various Scientology properties.

After that things died down somewhat but we never gave up and we would never quit fighting and exposing Scientology abuses until disconnection has ended and all families as well as ours are reunited.

Now, with the incredible interest in Scientology’s abuses that Leah Remini’s show has created and which seems to just keep building, we thought the time was right to put up the billboard again. Hopefully this will help keep the subject alive and add to the amazing work they have done recently in exposing more of the horrible abuses Scientology engages in on a regular basis.

We have an amazing location picked out for the billboard that we feel will get the attention we’d like to see and hopefully bring us closer to ending Scientology Disconnection abuse.

 

 
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New York magazine goes overseas for a story in its own backyard

Every six months to a year, a newspaper somewhere in the world makes the discovery that Scientology is trying to reach kids in schools with its anti-drug campaigns. We can remember numerous times it’s happened in England over the past few years. But for some reason, a story about that very thing went pretty viral this week.

Well, that happens. It’s the nature of media that some stories get ignored, and others go wild, even when they’re about the same thing. But what really surprised us, and gave us this week’s Rodney Dangerfied moment, was seeing New York magazine pick up the British newspaper report as if it were news that Scientology infiltration was happening in merry olde England.

The reason this had us slapping the old forehead was that we’ve been writing about Scientology infiltrating NEW YORK CITY’s schools for almost four years now. Our regular readers know that we’ve kept a consistent watch on Queens dentist Bernard Fialkoff and his daughter, the glamorous Meghan Fialkoff, as they’ve given countless presentations in New York schools, and often with the cooperation of the New York Police Department.

In fact, Bernie and Meghan have worked so hard to get L. Ron Hubbard into New York’s schools, this past fall they received the highest honor for Scientologists — they were given Freedom Medals for all their work.

 

 
We sure wish New York magazine had done, you know, a Google search or something to find that this was going on right here in the city, and not just over in England.

 
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Chris Shelton interviews Aaron Smith-Levin

Here’s what Chris tells us about his new video…

Aaron Smith-Levin and I knew and worked with each other in the Sea Org in Los Angeles back in the late 1990s and early 2000s. In fact, he was one of the people I used to order around! We finally made the time to get together and talk about some of the details of that time period, his current “popularity” with Scientology in the form of the new hate website put up about him, and some of the reactions he’s gotten from current “under the radar” Scientologists after his appearance on Leah Remini’s show, among many other things. And we had a great time doing it. I hope you all enjoy watching this as much as we enjoyed doing it.

 

 
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Last night’s ABC 20/20 episode

 

 
Mike Rinder’s perfect dissection of what’s wrong with it.

 
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HowdyCon2017

Go here to start making your plans.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 7, 2017 at 07:00

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  • ze moo

    Blinky Mcblinkypants earned her clam clams the hard way. By looking like a lying clam. But those minutes that she took up kept more detail about Serge or anyone else off the air. It resulted in a somewhat disjointed Rathbun filler that was of interest to me, but not to the central story of ‘Aftermath’.

    No one expects any CO$ official or hiring to come out with the truth. So Blinky didn’t do more than live down to the current reputation of the CO$. But it appears that she did keep a story about Nora Crest off the air.

    Dinky Miscreant will count that as a win.

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Most surprising about the 20/20 episode – Watching Yingling have the audacity to sit there and say that, that kind of behavior would apply to “certain 14 year olds.”

    Least surprising – Tony’s apartment is wall to wall books. 🙂

  • The message to FBI yesterday got someones attention

    https://twitter.com/NOLADuchess/status/817799450718564352

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Many messages. ; ) Lots of people called, tweeted, emailed. It’s fun to see SP Powerz in action.

      • i’ll bet… wonder what kind of excuse they gave the Cult!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      There’s our girl 🙂

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        *waves* 🙂

        • MadisonAgain

          Can you tweet this to JAW somehow? Or the Twit?

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Already did. ; ) Sent it to JAW’s “uptone” account.

  • Newiga

    $1,510! Great work people! ^_^

    • go take another look!

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Go iampissed! 🙂

      • Newiga

        HURRAAAH!

  • salin

    In response to what feels like shifting winds – the chorus of an old John Mellencamp song has been humming around my brain. Attempted to rewrite the lyrics from the perspective of the parastic organism of the Co$. Here I will post the video (it’s old – gives you the tune and feel if it’s been too long since you’ve heard it to remember it.) then for some performance art I will post below it New Lyrics for this new era of Co$. Perhaps it is the Golden Era of Dyinetics?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PErUiAyVoGc

    • salin

      {From the Perspective of the Parasitic organism called Co$
      to the tune of Mellencamp’s Crumbling Walls}

      Dyingnetics Crumblin Walls

      SPs well their no damn good,
      They can’t trust us, and we don’t trust them
      No Fair Game works they way it should
      They seem to spy us around in the neighborhood
      Ya, we’ve had the control for years and years
      Send you to the rpf and you to the hole
      Amass a ton of money – selling eternal ‘souls’
      Now something’s shifting – shoes are starting to fall
      Sps are waiting outside – to claim my crumbling walls.

      Saw my picture in the paper
      Read the buzz on the internets
      Sent the lawyer out but
      Her damn blinking was inept

      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ down
      Soon the walls will come crumblin’ crumblin’
      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ tumblin’ down

      Mmmm Ya ya ya ya ya

      Folks like Ortega claim I’m abusive and cruel,
      Documenting tales of horror and disconnection
      But I know I’m following policy
      What was good enough for Ron in ’53 is still good for me
      Exes no longer keep in line, threats of slander go nowhere
      Osa hijinks don’t intimidate, invoke so little fear
      Momentums moving backwards, folks are sliding away,
      Miles of empty shiny buildings
      with hollow echoes in the halls

      Tell all books published monthly
      Black Press Daily on the ‘net
      I am bending and am breaking
      So you better stand clear!

      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ down
      Soon the walls will come crumblin’ crumblin’
      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ tumblin’ down

      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ down
      Soon the walls will come rumblin’ rumblin’
      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ tumblin’ down

      The Wright-Gibney earthquake left some cracks
      The Tuml turbulation tour left us worried and drained
      Now Hurricane Leah’s swirling
      It’s a Cat 5 Storm!

      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ down
      Soon the walls will come crumblin’ crumblin’
      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ tumblin’ crumblin’ crumblin’
      Soon the walls will come tumblin’ tumblin’ crumblin’ crubmblin’ down

      • Mockingbird

        Where is weird Al when we need him ?

  • sizzle8
    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Laugh !!

      • salin

        OMG… using morse she said last night: I don’t want to forfeit my millions in fees (stop) But if you want to save the children in the sea org send in the FBI. Now. Don’t let them know how you knew to make the raid. I will deny all.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      Has anyone that knows this code tried to read her blinking and see if she is asking for help?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Let me have a go… “I… suck… cock… on… Hollywood… Boulevard”. And she just repeats herself.

        • Mark Foster

          She also made references to warm buns…

  • Mark Foster

    For the Bunker…and the Bunker Bard, Pan:

    The new ¨Call Me¨ sign from Phil and Willie
    Will make Tyrant Tater Tot feel kinda chilly
    His cowardly AWOL status is a galactic joke
    And all he can offer are ad hominem pokes
    He´s a wanker and a bully and a psychotic cur
    And the end of his crimes needs to be assured
    Free the Sea Org slaves and bring the families back together
    And put this rabid dog on a strong, tight tether
    So,now, open your wallets and let the love flow start
    And let the new sign impinge upon his cruel, dark heart.
    The fight isn´t over, we still have miles to go
    But let´s bring truth and j&d-and get on with the show!

    • salin

      Extending the Spriit – via Haiku

      Vex the miscreant
      Send Messages of Freedom
      We stand together

      • Sherbet

        I know you mean well, salin, but no. No haikus. Please.

        • salin

          Okay, but what did I miss?

          • Sherbet

            I was being slightly mean. Remember our Queen of the Haiku who left the Bunker in a big snit about 8 months ago and doesn’t love us any more?

            • salin

              Ah. She was very kind to me when I was facing my loss. I think the exit happened around the time I was absent a lot (selling my house among other things) – so I missed ensuing drama. Thanks for the heads up, I’ll keep my snark in prose form. 😉

            • Sherbet

              I didn’t know what happened when it was happening, and I still don’t (and don’t need to know). I took my couple-of-months break from the Bunker in June I think. I just got wind of the fallout. Sad, confusing, and now, ancient history.

              Of course you can use haiku! I was just joking.

    • Awesome! I can actually hear the ‘beat’ to this in my head.

  • @disqus_6wLocKKwTx:disqus your the man – thank you!
    ETA: I do owe you that beer…

    • Juicer77

      Care to share? 🙂

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Check the new Philboard gofundme page…ETA: which is already up to $2,669!

        • Juicer77

          That is incredibly sweet. Papa would be proud.

          • salin

            A toast to iampissed – and honoring ‘being there’ with your father.

            • Juicer77

              *clink*

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Cheers*clink*

    • iampissed

      Just working though my A to E’s.

      • i.m sure you make it this time 🙂

      • MadisonAgain

        What a lovely way to honor your father. You’re a good man.

        This is what family means. And Fuck Scientology! (Excuse my language. I never say those words anymore because kid but…)

        • iampissed

          Tnank you…it has been a day

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Wow, that is incredibly generous, and a lovely tribute to your dad.

  • joan nieman

    Thank you for the clip so that I could watch the full show. They did give a lot of time to Muffin but it only made her look ignorant and confused. I think Serg has touched everybody’s hearts. Tony, your bit was very well done too.

  • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

    Go team Phil and Willie !!!!

  • Mockingbird

    Good day Bunkeroos.

    I felt we entered the Golden Age of Critics with the smash hit Going Clear and the Golden Age of J and D with Neurotology. Now with the straight up vertical screaming affluence Scientology and the Aftermath has brought to blogs, websites and YouTube videos critical of Scientology it is truly the dawn of a new era.

    The Platinum Age of Critics is upon us.

    I believe the billboard campaign is simply a stroke of pure genius. It’s so simple and clear – Scientology forces people to leave their families and the families object.

    That message is so easy to comprehend that no obfuscations and misdirections about bitter defrocked apostates or saying church over and over to reinforce an image of a genuine religion will nullify it.

    David Miscavige may try to hide it but having the physical image of the billboard and an endless parade of family members that lost loved ones to Scientology trumps a billion blinks.

    Simple message for David Miscavige on what people learn from the billboard campaign and your attempts to thwart it:

    It ‘s disconnection stupid. Your usual “we don’t practice fair game and will ruthlessly fair game anyone that says otherwise ” practice will only prove everything critics say about you is completely true.

    David Miscavige once described psychiatry as a ship that is sinking and burning at the same time. He said it is sinking faster than it is burning. No, David- that is your own house you are describing.

    • I want to go see Burning Man this summer!

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Totally agree! While there are many, many interesting points that any critic or investigative journalist could delve into and publicly expose about $cn, there’s nothing that communicates more directly or at such a deep visceral level of impact than the cherch’s morally reprehensible policy of coerced disconnection. Folks who know nothing about $cn know that any group or religion that destroys families by requiring parishioners to abandon family members on threat of being expelled themselves is both wrong and evil.

      The Call Me campaign has such a direct and and powerful impact because it taps into exactly the same sense of loss and anguish that any caring family member would feel if they’d been denied access to their loved ones. This is an excellent moment to see another billboard go up!

      • Mockingbird

        Yes. And in my opinion it is very cost effective. You get tremendous bang for your buck. For a relatively small cost we could get a billboard permanently set up in L.A. and another at Flag.

        The attention even one billboard generates over a short time is great in two ways. It provides a lot of exes the central place to communicate from and for the media and public a simple clear message. It is kind of indisputable that disconnection occurs if you look at the evidence and listen to the people.

        It’s simple truth to counter Scientology’s arsenal of propaganda techniques and lies.

  • pluvo

    Chris and Aaron,

    About the Scn Truth Rundown (at 29:>>) – I’ve mentioned it here before: It is straight out of Orwell’s “1984”!
    It is handling your ‘thought crimes’ about Big Brother Miscavige, Hubbard, Management, Scientology.

    As Bruce Hines said in his video (“The Scientology Truth Rundown”): “… and after it’s all done, you have to realize that you are deluded. That’s part of the – they call it “the end phenomena” of the procedure. … It goes on for months and you are constantly looking for the evil in you… and in the end you think they are all great people”.

    This is like in “1984” when Winston Smith finally gets broken after the mental torture and gives up his original thoughts and doubts and now is loving Big Brother as he is suppose to.

    When I saw the ‘Truth Rundown’ video it hit me like a brick. I could see Hubbard’s evil intention to fuck with people’s mind when they had ‘thought crimes’, to break anyone who was questioning him and his Thought police (Some people described similar experiences when they were subjected to the mental mind-fuck also as mental rape). I was extremely disgusted and outraged about how vile Hubbard was and it snapped me out of the indoctrinated ‘Big Brother’ mind-set.

    And Hubbard did rave against psychiatrists and psychologists!!??!!

    Then the real kicker from the “Creed of the Church of Scientology”:

    We of the Church believe …

    That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others. …

    and we of the Church believe that the laws of God forbid men …

    To destroy his own kind.
    To destroy the sanity of another.
    To destroy or enslave another’s soul.
    To destroy or reduce the survival of one’s companions or one’s group.

    • Mockingbird

      Those are rules. The maker of games doesn’t have to follow them.

      • pluvo

        Just used to deceive the public, to lull them into a false sense of security and use their good will. Also their usual PR to position themselves as ‘humanitarians’.

        The Universal Declaration of Human Rights:

        Article 19.
        Everyone has the right to freedom of opinion and expression; this right includes freedom to hold
        opinions without interference and to seek, receive and impart information and ideas through any media and regardless of frontiers.

        Creed of Scientology:

        That all men have inalienable rights to think freely, to talk freely, to write freely their own opinions and to counter or utter or write upon the opinions of others.

        • mockingbird

          Those rights are not recognized by Scientology.

          • pluvo

            Right. The point was to show how they (mis)use the UDHR as mentioned above.

            • mockingbird

              Misuse ? Like the United States government they don’t recognize or subscribe to the declaration.

            • pluvo

              Eh?? Something I do not understand – what you want to tell me. Is “misuse” the wrong word?

              Is this not clear (regarding to that CoS set up a humanitarian facade): “Just used to deceive the public, to lull them into a false sense of security and use their good will. Also their usual PR to position themselves as ‘humanitarians’.”

              Of course they don’t abide by it. I lived it. Was even wondering about it when the Kool-Aid was running through my veins.

            • mockingbird

              I understand they pretend to honor human rights but don’t actually follow thst in reality.

    • grundoon

      Does “all men” include “homo novis” or are the laws of God only for homo sapiens to follow?

  • Sorry, off topic.
    Remember in July when Donald Rump was so sure the Russians did the hacking that he called on them to release more emails?
    http://www.nytimes.com/2016/07/28/us/politics/donald-trump-russia-clinton-emails.html?_r=0
    Yeah, whatever happened with that?

    • salin

      Mock him once, he gets off balance, mock him twice and he plays “I am rubber and you are glue.”

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UaVWRetR4jg

      • I know you are but what am I.

    • Then he was sure that they didn’t because he “knows something” and was going to release it last Tuesday-Wednesday. /crickets/
      ..
      https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ec51f53e4c5d8cdbfdf65c866526c4b5b257d68abbc294a325367157b2ee21bc.jpg

      • salin

        *snicker*

      • and his kids are experts in Cyber

      • kemist

        He can count to potato too ? Wow.

        He must know how to cyber then.

      • Graham

        Shouldn’t that be potatoe?

        • Sherbet

          Now, Graham — how do you know and remember that bit of American VP history?

          • Graham

            Who could forget it! I used to be a teacher and none of my ten year olds would have made a mistake like that.

            • Sherbet

              You should have had DQ in your class.

            • Kestrel

              I’d go back to school right now if there was a Dairy Queen there. Wait. What?

            • Sherbet

              Ha! Cute, Kestrel.

            • Kestrel

              There are times when I wish you were a little less precise with your punctuation.

            • Sherbet

              Cute Kestrel. There.

            • Graham

              I quail at the very thought 😉

            • They’re just happy campers.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        The very intelligent and thoroughly experienced intelligence community professionals and reporters who’ve been following this story seem both astonished and reeling at the implications of this supremely uninformed individual’s eager willingness to publicly diss the unanimous conclusion of all 17 national security/intelligence agencies.

        McCain got it right when he described Russia’s concerted and high-level efforts to subvert our democracy as an act of war, requiring a very significant and powerful response. For the president-elect to publicly cast doubt on the government agencies who documented these cyber attacks doesn’t arise to the level of treasonous talk, but it’s certainly a strong movement in that direction.

        Kissing up to Putin is about as anathema to old guard repubs as it’s possible to be. Fortunately, despite all the strict partisanship dividing the parties, this is one area in which Twump is going to be in for a losing fight if he continues on in this direction because there is bi-partisan opposition to Russia and, in particular, Putin’s efforts to undermine western democracies here and in Europe.

        With a little luck, Twunt will have screwed up so badly, along exactly these same kind lines by the mid-terms, that he will have lost his appeal to middle America voters who fell for his “promise them whatever they want to hear” con job during the presidential campaign.

  • I don’t like Yingling even though I’ve never Yingled.

    • Graham

      I prefer Kipling.

      • Me too. I like to Kiple by the great green greasy banks of the Limpopo River

    • TheLurkingHorror

      But if you watched 20/20 last night, you have been Yingled.

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Knowledge Report: At 0300 hours we observed Shorpy engaged the act of Yingling in a dark corner of the Base. He believed no one could see him, but we did while on night patrol with night vision goggles.

      • I never Yingled in all my 86.6 octillion lives.. I demand one of those court thingies.
        What you think you saw was actually something that we in the hole call Miscavitching.
        I was beating my staff.
        That is no crime, sir. It is ecclesiastical.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Vistaril needed on the Set of ABC 20/20 Stat!

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/7cac6724eaa93691da209295f8436230f1bae3384f85db27b31f983291dce62c.png

    Blinky McBlinkerface aka Monique Yingling needs Vistaril stat! Her chronic blinking was a huge somatic that was bad PR for Scientology. Her BT’s freewheeled through their implants due to whatever Psych wavelengths were coming from the studio lights.

    And the show was a huge embarrassment for ABC! The talentless moron Dan Harris could use some Vistaril as well. He is the Dan Quayle of television reporters, an incoherent trainwreck that not even SMP would hire.

    And what were Yingling and Harris thinking? Not once did either of them stop to effusively praise COB RTC Mr. David Miscavige for his Herculean efforts in saving this planet. Not once did either of these wog toady’s show enough gratitude to stand and applaud COB for his brilliance in opening 115,991 Ideal Orgs.

    What we in RTC needed from the show was more rope pull!

    https://otviiisgrrr8.files.wordpress.com/2017/01/rope-pull.jpg?w=565&h=301

    • Sherbet

      Save that unflattering shot of Yingling. The church is going to need it for its whoismoniqueyingling dot com smear site.

      • Observer

        Is it wrong that I hope DM turns on her as suddenly and savagely as he has on so many others?

        • Sherbet

          What’s wrong for you is wrong for…I don’t know what Lafayette would say.

          Anyway, I’d guess, at her age, with the money she has, she’s probably nearing the end of her law career. Some of her Morse code blinking last night translated to, “Miscavige, you SOB coward, making me sit here on the hot seat again. I’m DONE.”

          • Observer

            I wonder if he’s got a huge stack of blackmail material on her like he does on everyone else. It would serve her right.

            • Sherbet

              Observer, Observer, Observer…What kind of blackmail material could they possibly have on a sleazy tax attorney who’s made millions of dollars from a fake church?

        • TheLurkingHorror

          No.

    • Newiga

      Vistaril? What about TR-0? Surely a catholic can give it a go?

    • Harpoona Frittata

      If you turn down the sound and watch Moyingalingading’s body language and facial expression changes closely, you’ll notice that her frequent and rapid blinking often gave way to a very high frequency eye-lid flutter thing that’s very distinctive and usually only seen in folks who, for example, have just shot up some good heroin or who are lapsing into an absence seizure – both of which represent a partial or momentary loss of consciousness.

      Your screen grab also captures what is not very apparent when her performance is viewed in real time, which is that her eyes roll back, exactly as if she’s momentarily losing consciousness, then struggling inwardly to regain it. A much more in depth and scientologically sound explanation for her odd and attention-drawing automatic behavior there suggests that Ms. dingalinga’s unadited BT’s were seizing control of her consciousness and motor effector systems off and on throughout the interview. And, from the looks of it, her BT army almost seized control long enough to convey to the audience the unmistakable impression that she was indeed possessed and being used by those demonic spirits. She struggled throughout the interview to regain her composure and keep her demons at bay, but for those of us who are attuned to what active efforts by a host’s BT’s to take over control of consciousness look like, her inner struggle to resist them was incredibly obvious!

      Since both lil davey and Moyinga do not receive auditing services, despite ready access to the tippy top of the bridge, you have to wonder if they’re both aware of how bogus the whole Xenu and space alien spirit possession stories are, or alternatively, they’re both completely in thrall to some sort of space alien spirit alliance that’s seized control of their bodies and shoved their own puny thetans aside…either way, this can’t be anyone’s idea of how to Keep $cn Working!

      Both critics and still-in $cilons need to seriously consider the possibility that $cn has been subverted and taken over at the spiritual warfare level by the BT army that, apparently, controls both lil davey and the cult’s lawyer/spokesweasel, Molingading!

    • Sir Hartley Kyk-Yerarse KCMG

      What I think you chaps at RTC need (although obviously, as this advice is being granted gratis, it is provided with neither guarantee of function nor admission of liability should it be used by yourselves {when you make the inevitable horses arse of everything… again}) is a spokesperson who is: credible; clear; coherent; coached in slightly more conciliatory and less confrontational manner of responding to questions; and, perhaps most important of all a member of your own… *ahem* ‘religion’ (A ‘religion’ which professes, fairly early on, to permit its adherents to be able to communicate with all people regarding any subject {unless I’m making a real horlicks trying to understand Ms. Pickles’s notes… I’ll attach her cutting, I’m sure she’s circled the relevant passage from your ‘grade chart’}). https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/e7331f77573cf3f89f9a4fe02138a86b7e6d229cc291c62b676ac9aca43565f5.jpg If you can’t produce a credible chappie from your own ranks, then you’re on to a bit of a loser–I mean, that’s the second time you’ve put her on instead of one of your ‘religiously trained’ Communication wonks, so if that’s not an indication that your ‘scripture’ is failing to function, then I really don’t know what kind of hints you lot are going to need…HPostscript: This is a second attempt… the original was too ‘spam-like’ to pass Disqus muster, apologies… I shall attach one of my noisy client’s defaced images as recompense. H https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/012188e79d80c759617c7c92f7b138da6b58100fe0fd1313871e54393af3915a.jpg

    • mockingbird

      Jesus Christ that is…

    • mockingbird

      Do you have any comments on Carrie Fisher having her remains placed in a giant Prozac pill ?

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        If that’s true, I’m delighted !!! I think Carrie Fisher was a hilarious woman who had a lot of courage in going public with her bipolar disorder. It sounds like her. She said that the way she has coped with her troubled life was to find something to laugh about asap after each difficult event, so this is commensurate with that. Love you Carrie, wherever you are !!

        • Frodis73

          Isn’t that great? I saw a pic of her brother at the cemetery and it is definitely true. Carrie was so awesome.

  • Miscavige told Yingling he’d pay her to go down to 20/20 and hoodwink her way through the interview. Not having a clue what ‘hoodwink’ meant she thought was just getting paid to wink.

    • iampissed

      That’s funny.

    • salin

      She was all ready to play games, but thought they would provide the Tiddleys, all she was left with was playing lame semantics games.

    • iampissed

      Has anyone done a per blink cost analysis.

      • One Body Thetan per blink.

        • iampissed

          Great she must be clear by now!

    • JaxNGold

      Hi Phil. So glad to see you’ve started another billboard campaign. Count me in! Big hugs to you and Willie.

      • Thank you Jax. The support (& hugs) are appreciated.

    • Ella Raitch

      Dad jokes for the win!!!!!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Breaking News January 7th, 2017

    Drinking Game Turns Nearly Fatal
    with our Irish ASC correspondents, Krishnamurphy and Salvador Daly

    The initial offer was done in fun – drink a shot every time that Monique Yingling
    blinked during the 20/20 show last night.
    Unfortunately, several Bunkerues who participated, at 47 different locations around
    the world, quickly became severely inebriated and many are comatose.
    The Goodyear blimp is not being sent to care for them.
    Fortunately, Volunteer Ministers have been providing Touch Assists.

    In other news the Cyber is still functioning.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/b1bc0e46b9576c5a7201664a3c06787ca34304f86e6193daf19fb5f9beb89fac.jpg

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  • April

    Was it as clear to anyone else as it was to me that starting at 14:30 minutes in the 20/20 video Yingling directly admits that if members don’t “voluntarily” disconnect to someone deemed an “SP” by the CO$, that they themselves will be disconnected from by all other scientologists? And then the interviewer says, “those are some harsh consequences.” And she brushes this off by saying, “there’s consequences in every choice we make in life.” What a fucking cold, heartless smug bitch she is!

    • If it wasn’t “cold, heartless smug” it wouldn’t be Scientology.

    • kemist

      I hope she remembers those words on the day those consequences catch up to her.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Yep, that was one of the prime opportunities for the interviewer to dig deeper and bring up some typical examples of familial disconnection to inquire if those had been carried out “per policy”.

      I long for the days of Ted Koeppel and his quick-witted, incisive, logical and very direct approach to interviewing cult spokespersons. He never would have allowed her to get away with a quarter of the bullshit that she skated by with and would have made it very clear, through his knowledgeable questioning, that the non-scientologist spokesperson that the cult had chosen was thoroughly uninformed and therefore unable to address the very serious allegations that had been made directly against the cherch and lil davey in particular.

      Ted is still around and I’m sure he’d be more than happy to sink his teeth into Miscavige’s mangy hide again, so I’d love to see Leah challenge lil davey to a debate moderated by Ted. Of course he’d decline, because the cult has no intention whatsoever of addressing any of the specific allegations made against it except in court, and only then after doing its absolute best to avoid answering up.

    • Sunny

      I spent 10 to 15 years arguing and disagreeing with my Scientology mom about having to be disconnected from my dad, who got SP declared when I was 3. How is that voluntary? (I was disconnected from 75 to 2007, except a month in 82 where I was allowed to see him).

  • kemist

    I’ve found Scientology’s next spokeshole for when Blinky Dingaling retires :
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/0d7855a36e410e7bd5a0b25c3de05c9b3e3e8c91c0707b1dc29126800ecb3256.jpg

    • salin

      Perfect.

      • Sherbet

        Where’s the scarf?

        • salin

          Why do you think it has pursed lips?

  • April

    Do auditors have any discretion about which questions from the Johannesburg or other sec-checs are asked? The reason I’m asking is that at 28:00 minutes in the 20/20 video Yingling says the auditor used discretion and did not ask Serge those sexually related questions. I find that incredibly hard to believe based on my (admittedly never-in) understanding; “standard tech” in the CO$ means each process is run exactly the same way, every time, on every person. Not to mention the hundreds of reports by ex-scn who were children and teenagers in the CO$ of having been asked those questions, or having to ask those questions of adults while they were still kids and teens.

    • Techie

      No, April, an auditor cannot change the questions on a form invented by Hubbard that is part of Standard Tech. It is common for questions to be added, that is called a “tailor-made” sec check. But they cannot alter the words of the exalted Hubbard without getting into trouble. Remember, they think that children are just immortal beings that happen to be in small bodies for a while, with endless past experience behind them. So the idea of “sparing their poor immature minds from harsh realities” would never occur to them.

      • April

        Thank you for confirming.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      An auditor is expected to very closely follow the detailed written instructions of what to run on a PC or pre-OT that are provided by the case supervisor for every session. If something appears to be amiss during the session, the auditor is expected to end the session, write up exactly what he/she did and how things went awry, then submit the folder to the C/S for corrective action. Depending upon what went wrong, the auditor could also expect to be sent to Qual for cramming to correct his/her errors, prior to taking the individual back into session. There is no discretion or free-lancing allowed; everything is pre-programmed by the C/S and the auditor is expected to follow those instructions to the letter…that’s an essential part of what defines “standard tech”.

      An investigative journalist who’d done his/her research would know that and have pinned her to the wall to demonstrate that the supposedly knowledgeable spokesperson that they’d provided was, in reality, completely uninformed concerning one of the most important aspects of the subject that she was chosen to represent. In an organization like $cn, which has a very rigid top-down command and control structure, the selection of someone who isn’t a $cilon and knows very little about a subject whose specific practices and policies are under intense scrutiny can be no accident. And the fact that Harris knew even less about his subject than the cult’s designated spokesweasel kept him from realizing this key fact and then bringing it in his interview…really shoddy and lazy journalism!

      • April

        Thank you.

      • Ella Raitch

        If people higher up in ABC did not want a programme that skewered Scientology, letting the lies be recorded and hung out there for all to see may the best the production team could do

        • Harpoona Frittata

          It was truly bad enough, at every single level, for there to be plenty of blame to go around.

          Perhaps I’m expecting a level of journalistic quality that just isn’t their anymore from 20/20…it has been years since I watched the program on a regular basis and I’m unfamiliar with Harris’s other work.

    • Sunny

      Absolutely not.
      And it is also BS that the Joburg is hardly ever used… It is part of Grade 2. Every person working their way to Clear gets ALL of those questions asked, with none left out.

  • iampissed

    It is interesting for a group that prides itself on a determined gaze, they have as a spokes person
    who blinks uncontrollably.

    • April

      And doesn’t maintain eye contact with the interviewer for 80% of the time she’s talking.

  • Sherbet

    I don’t have FB. What’s being said on ABC’s 20/20 site?

    • Observer

      A whole lot of snark about Blinky McBlinkerson and criticism of the softball approach.

      • Sherbet

        Allrighty, then.

      • Not Blinky McBlinkface?

        • Robert Eckert

          Muffinique Winkblink

        • Graham

          Blinky McOffHerFace.

        • Observer

          The blinkibilities are endless…

    • TheLurkingHorror

      I don’t do Facebook either, but unless 20/20’s site is set to private I think you should still be able to view their page. I could be wrong, though.

      • Sherbet

        OK. I’ll give it a go.

        ETA: I see only Menendez brothers.

        • TheLurkingHorror

          Hmmm… I don’t know then. Maybe someone has a direct link to yesterday’s 20/20.

          • Sherbet

            It’s OK. As long as some Bunkeroos are monitoring it and commenting, I’m happy.

            • Kestrel

              My shift starts in 15 minutes, so it’s all good.

            • chukicita

              Make sure you punch in, or your pay will be docked.

            • Kestrel

              Done and done. Literally. Each shift is for 30 minutes.

    • Ella Raitch

      What I have seen – it is all Yingling is a lying liar that lies, Leah is a badass

  • Lois Reisdorf (Lowie)

    I posted the following on the ABC 20/20 Facebook Page on last night’s episode:

    “As a born-in Scientologist and former Sea Org member, the lawyer last night LIED about disconnection. You do not get declared a suppressive person for ONLY speaking out publicly. I ONLY started talking out publicly after I was declared a suppressive person and LOST my youngest son and my WHOLE scientology side of the family. What a bunch of BS. ABC you have so many stories on film that you have not shown to prove this! I was on for a few minutes on the April 29th episode and I watched you record many others who had horrific stories of disconnection and they have not been shown. You could seriously do another episode or two just on that. However, I will say that the church was shown to be a bunch of liars. Monique Yingling is NOT a scientologist, she is not paying ungodly amounts of money to them, she is not experiencing the mind boggling mental torture they put you through. She actually knows nothing. If David Miscavige cannot come forward to dispute our claims face to face, then they have no credibibility whatsoever. I will be writing an article up on MikeRindersBlog.org with the written PROOF of disconnection next week. My family’s story will also be aired on the Finale of Scientology And The Aftermath on Tuesday.”

    • salin

      Thank you for speaking out. Yours is an important voice.

    • nottrue

      Your Serie at Rinde’rs Blog was great.. A must read

  • Faux Gibbler

    Monique Yingling admitted Scientologists are forced to disconnect.

    • Ella Raitch

      And she admitted that it was probably ok to ask some 14 year olds questions of a sexual nature

      • Faux Gibbler

        I would be furious if a church asked my kid that.

  • Faux Gibbler

    Mr. Ortega,

    I am new to your blog.. has Scientology harassed you? If so, did you blog about it?

    • Robert Eckert

      He doesn’t like to talk about it, but yes there have been some ugly incidents: Scientologists showing up at his mother’s door, just to signal “we know where she lives”, is one that he has been willing to let become public; a hacker went to jail for cyberattacks on him and Mike Rinder; and Rinder says Tony has been the victim of other things.

    • Rasha

      Scientology harasses and tries to intimidate anyone who watches and reports on them. Tony reports on their activities, not on how they treat him. There is no doubt he has a lot to put up with, and for that we really respect him, but it’s the objective reporting that matters.

      Seriously, the guy is one in a million.

      • Faux Gibbler

        Yes, but Toni unfortunately is not backed by a multimillion dollar news organization. And if Scientology does go overboard, he should speak up so someone helps him.

        • Rasha

          Exactly my point. ^_^

    • Graham

      has Scientology harassed you? That much is certain. If they haven’t harassed him he’d be the only critic who’s never been harassed. One thing you can be certain of with Scientology is their boring predictability. Hubbard said never defend always attack, so they’re not going to make an exception for Tony.

      If so, did you blog about it? If Tony did that he’d become part of the story. No journalist wants that. I must admit I’d be fascinated to hear about attempts made to harass, attempts made to bring down this blog and how Tony has countered them but realise that he’d be stupid to give comfort to the enemy by making any of that public.

    • TonyOrtega

      I go into more detail about this than I ever have before in the next episode of Leah’s show. So if you’re curious about it, make sure you tune in Tuesday night on A&E.

      • ExCult.Jan

        Thanks, Tony, for your amazing dedication, fortitude, doggedness, heart, courage, and talent!

      • iampissed

        I’m looking forward to that. I know you are a never in, and have a very long history of
        writing about it.
        ETA…and I thank you for it!

        • Harpoona Frittata

          Being singled out for harassment by the cult has become a badge of honor and a mark that your efforts to expose the cult have truly hit home. Everyone who believes in truth and justice should aspire to having one created just for them 😉

          In the same spirit of movies that are so bad that they become wonderful self-parodies, the cult’s string of obligatory, cookie-cutter, “Who is…” hate sites that are launched against every new individual featured in Leah’s series are so ludicrous that they “jump the couch” into a whole new realm of bad. Really, their only comparable basis is with POW/hostage videos, where the off-camera presence of torturers and captors is palpable.

          Since these are all actions taken at lil davey’s direct behest, they reveal the same kind of sadistic thread that runs throughout all of his “ethics handling” of his underlings by humiliating them publicly and dominating them in ways they can not fight back against or even protest. Since the individuals that Leah’s series features are now beyond his control and ability to seek revenge against, he’s vey consciously chosen to do so by proxy, through the domination and humiliation of their family members who are still in the cult and subject to his coercive threats and punishments. Truly an evil human being for whom the obsessive impulse to seek revenge trumps all.

      • Faux Gibbler

        Thank you Mr. Ortega! I never thought I would get an answer from you just because you get thousands of comments a day.
        I look forward to watching you on Leah’s show, if it were not for you, I really would not have known about this abusive “religion” cult.
        I mean don’t get me wrong.. I always knew that Scientology was weird but not to these extremes.

  • Rasha

    O/T: Rasha is frozen from clearing the driveway (twice), sledding with the neighbor kids on the snowy hill in the backyard, then hanging out in the next door neighbor’s garage drinking beer and planning the mid-winter block party…. It’s all so good.

    ANYHOO, here’s a view from the back window……

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/39b99cea56121ff7317a5b38e19273aced41f146281536155135f5953da27e01.jpg

    • Sherbet

      Beautiful!

      • Rasha

        Luv mah birdies….

        • Sherbet

          Is it just a chickadee? It looks more colorful.

          • Rasha

            It is. There is a bit of orange going on there, and maybe that’s a camera setting, but it complements the background well.

            • Juicer77

              Chickadee-dee-dee-dee

            • Rasha

              <3

            • Rasha

              How are you Juiceah?

            • Juicer77

              Doing well. Getting out from under this head cold. Hope you are well. 🙂

            • Rasha

              Very fluey, but still making an effort to get about, if only in the immediate area….

    • chukicita

      That is the most beautiful thing I have seen all day.

      • Rasha

        #^_^#

    • I’ve seen that bird in my backyard too. I think it’s an OSA bird-cam.

  • “Ex-Scientologist Says He Was Asked Profane Questions as Minor in Training: Part 4”
    http://abcnews.go.com/2020/video/scientologist-asked-profane-questions-minor-training-part-44613607

    Someone at ABC needs to word-clear profane.

    • Quite – ‘profane’ would be saying something like “Jesus was an implant” – although some would prefer ‘blasphemous’.. The correct term might be ‘sexually abusive’ questions.

      • Rasha

        Yes, “profane” is “irreverent” or “disrespectful”, especially in a religious context. I think “inappropriate”, “improper”, or “just plain wrong” are better adjectives. I do agree that “sexually abusive” applies as well. Or “sick”. That works.

        • Obscene?

          • Rasha

            See? That works perfectly well, too! Who says the Bunker can’t word-clear?

            • The way I understand word clearing is that the only reason you don’t understand a text is that you have gone past a misunderstood word. This makes the text infallible.

              Word clearing is a process whereby you are manipulated into rationalising the lie that ‘profane’ was the right word all along. By suggesting more appropriate terms, we are committing the high crime of altering the tech.

              Word clearing is a way of insuring that Hubbard’s works are never questioned. However, when it is applied in the wider world (e.g in Scientology schools via Applied Scholastics) it completely relieved the ‘teachers’ of the necessity to understand anything at all about their subject.

              You teach whatever book you have arbitrarily chosen and completely suppress and critical examination of it – the diametric opposite of real education, which ought to encourage students to think for themselves.

              In short, that showed we completely missed the point of word clearing – and are all the better for it.

  • nottrue
    • Robert Eckert

      Scientology can help her with that.

  • Just finished watching Chris Shelton interviews Aaron Smith-Levin video.
    I am glad I watched it. Very fun and informative. Oh, fuck Truth Rundown.
    Thank you guys.

    • I know. That Truth Rundown thing sounds brutal.

      • We gonna fight it with a Truth billboard. Thank you.

    • Dylan

      I watched the whole thing as well. very informative.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Would it be helpful to Monique Yingling to get her a seeing-eye dog?
    Why did she have all those windows at that beach house, anyway?
    She can’t see a damn thing.
    I wonder if she reads braille?

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a84ef665072f01b8993914561b1a78a952bc0e26b73a95c0b09c0b0b0c00916c.jpg

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/59944ef4ea9e3607c7d3c1d49d4f2928b11d712bb172a058f96d2fba60b1b517.jpg

    Here’s John Alex Wood with his dear old departed dad whose purloined fortune
    will warm the cockles (should that be clams?) of where DM ought to have been
    born with a heart.

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/2045e2ac782dcfeaf3ae9293d132d8a9cba93719a84ef565f97f7ff09ff945ac.jpg

    • mockingbird

      Only fans of high quality comics will get this. The Corinthian is a sick psycho character.

      • Rasha

        First thing I thought of was Terry Gilliam’s work…

    • Observer

      eeeeeeeeeeeeee

    • Juicer77

      GAH

    • ze moo

      Great White Sharks do that when they are striking…and I don’t mean picketing for higher wages…

  • Observer

    Scientology has to shoop its critics to make them look dissolute and disreputable for their smear sites.

    Scientology critics don’t have to shoop squat because Yingling looks more dissolute and disreputable on her own than any shooping could make her.

    • mockingbird

      She may have a medical condition or substance abuse problems. I am not kidding.

      • Observer

        If you look at her younger pics, her eyes have always been dead. Also, when she was talking about how she raised her own children, her blinking subsided to normal human levels. When she started dancing around the questions again, the blink rate ratcheted back up. I would be very surprised if the blinking were anything other than a physiological response to lying.

        Substance abuse I find plausible.

        • chukicita

          Who was it last night here saying she looked like she’d done a faceplant in a pile of cocaine?

          • Observer

            I don’t remember, but I loled.

          • Ella Raitch

            Me!

          • Frodis73

            lmao

        • mockingbird

          If it’s a reaction to lying how much lying is she doing !!?

          • Observer

            A Scientological amount.

    • iampissed

      Reality is truth.

      • ze moo

        According to $cienoes, ‘your reality is truth’. Was Timothy Leary ever a member?

    • MissCandle

      Said the Shooper Extraordinaire!

    • John Prince

      You COULD give it a shot though,couldn’t You? 👊
      wouldn’t want to see YOUR stats falling off 😉😅😆
      aren’t You about due for a PullyourPantsDownicus Platinum or something?

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The Victorians said that children should be seen but not heard.
    Lord Hubris had his own take on it –
    $cientology: Chidren should be obscene and then hurt

    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/bcabbe23f8ac6b6c6e90c99d52c3f04af932ef4db2e86cd64622a2a4e197e188.jpg

  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    General reaction to Blinky McBlinkyface last night:

    https://i.makeagif.com/media/10-28-2013/tpy8GR.gif

    • salin

      That makes me even more dizzy than her blinking did.

    • Rasha

      XD great reference!

  • chukicita

    Glad to see the billboard campaign lifting again! That was a memorable day when it was unveiled in CW.

  • J. Swift

    ABC 20/20 offered a perfect example of a corporate media failure due to incomprehension of the subject; the crass desire to exploit a timely story for a ratings grab; and having no sense of how to edit and tell the story.

    Despite having significant financial resources, name recognition as a television franchise, and a wealth of people and material to work with, 20/20 failed in a major way to accomplish anything. 20/20 instead presented a muddled, disorganized, and disjointed episode on Scientology. There was no central unifying or overarching story elements or message. The show came off as an exploitative tabloid mess.

    20/20 had Leah Remini and yet Dan Harris wasted the opportunity to meaningfully interview Leah. Harris instead opted for his blatantly transparent ego-driven petty game of one-upsmanship with Leah.

    Harris’ ego also got in the way with Monique Yingling. Harris had Miscavige’s consiglere and yet he utterly failed to realize the supreme significance of who was seated in front of him for an interview. Yingling is historically important in the story of Miscavige-era Scientology and yet Harris squandered this rare opportunity, again, and opted for his petty game of one-upsmanship with Yingling.

    This was the Dan Harris Ego Show in which he wanted to make two smart women on opposing sides look bad while making himself look good. Harris was petulant, petty, pleased with himself, buffoonish, and just as stupid as a rock.

    Dan Harris really is a disgrace. If I were VP at Disney-ABC, I would demote Harris to a regional market for at least one year to see if he can get over his own ego and rethink what it is to be a journalist. Harris botched a show that, if done properly, could have been in contention for an Emmy. Harris and his producers squandered so much and produced an awful episode that was a waste of time.

    • April

      For one, he could have easily asked her how, as the CO$’s TAX attorney (and a NON SCIENTOLOGIST), she has any first hand knowledge of what happens in CO$ orgs, Gold Base, Flag, etc.

      ETA: It wasn’t a total waste, though. Yingling clearly admits to the coercivene manner in which the CO$ applies its disconnection policy.

    • Jeff, do you know if Dan Harris actually has enough say?
      I think it’s the producers and not Dan who make all the decisions. No?

      • Rasha

        Yes. The producers may take into account the interviewer/reporters status and abilities, but in the end, they are the key decision makers.

      • J. Swift

        Dodo, a professional can only blame the bosses so much. As a professional corporate person, I had to fight my bosses at times over matters of direction and policy. This was Dan Harris’ story. With all due deference to Tony, the real answer I want is from Harris himself: Did he like the final cut or did he disagree with it?

        • I liked some of the questions he asked Monique.
          And I see your point too. Time will tell.

    • TonyOrtega

      Sorry, but I completely disagree. I’ve met with Harris privately, and his concerns about, and knowledge of Scientology controversies is genuine and impressive. ABC’s shows reek of upper management interference. Stop blaming Dan Harris for what his bosses are demanding of him.

      • J. Swift

        Tony, I can only judge Dan Harris from what I watched on television as a viewer. As a viewer, he came across to me in the way I described: Just another ego-driven television journalist engaged in one-upsmanship with his interview subjects. If that is the way Harris’ bosses edited and spun the footage he shot, then, at least imo, it detracted from the genuine and impressive credibility you ascribe to Harris. This is indeed unfortunate because ABC did a disservice to Harris.

        I have talked to ABC producers a few times, sent them dox, and my impression was that they understood the big picture. But when I saw 20/20 last night there was a huge disconnect. I am disappointed.

        Another point: My perception of Dan Harris perhaps illustrates why many people have turned away from the mainstream media and have come to increasingly rely upon internet outlets for news.

        People come here to the Underground Bunker for news on Scientology because you are not handcuffed by network suits in ivory towers. This might also explain my consternation with 20/20: You have set the bar very high for precise and cogent Scientology reporting and analysis. I expected no less from a network.

        • ze moo

          I blame the producers and content managers and lawyers at ABC. Some outlets are still afraid of $cientology. I don’t see why that is, if you do your due diligence properly, you have nothing to fear.

          Let’s hope for a part 2. ABC has enough material to do one and I really want to see Nora Crests story on the small screen.

          Disconnection is just one part of the scam. All of the very underage Sea bOrg need to be seen. And there are a lot of them.

        • Lionel Drinkwater

          Monique Yingling was certainly the big turd in the punch bowl of last night’s 20/20 show on Scientology.

          • ze moo

            I don’t think I’ll go to your next party unless its BYOB.

        • By the way, do you know that Dan wrote a very personal book in 2014?
          https://www.amazon.com/10-Happier-Self-Help-Actually-Works/dp/0062265423

          • From the Amazon page:
            ” I began to self-medicate, dabbling with cocaine and ecstasy. “

            • BobbyTolberto aka TDA

              I would’ve thought it started when switched from decaf to Starbucks regular coffee.

              Dan Harris: For people who find Keith Morrison too intense.

          • Ella Raitch

            I haven’t read the book but he speaks about this in the documentary ‘Minimalism’

        • madame duran

          Mainstream news network has become very much like Hollywood film studios and record companies…managed by clueless corporate heads who only think in terms of the bottom line and sensational hype instead of supporting unique talent within the respective fields. What we get is mediocracy. Nobody wants to take risks; everything is predictable, uniform, boring; total lack of innovation, principles, vision. There was a time when individuals stood out from the rest. Where’s our new Cronkite, Brando or Led Zeppelin?

          Dan Harris’ face is the one I see so he gets the blame. Perhaps it’s unfair because he does have a boss to answer to and please. It’s just so disappointing to see people lessen their potential.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        I perceived his approach as something that was probably being controlled by the people upstairs. He was having to soft-shoe it. He still got some good comments in and asked some good questions. I suspect this is not the interview he wished he could have done. Maybe it was because of the shared ownership of his network and A & E. That always poses a problem, i.e. the issue with South Park’s episode of Tom Cruise being pulled by Paramount from the Comedy Channel because Paramount was a parent company of the Comedy Channel and Tom Cruise said if they ran it he would do publicity for one of his blockbuster movies that just came out. (war of the worlds or mission impossible, can’t remember which one)

        You know way more about this than I do, but as far as I understand, it used to be that individual networks were independently owned….now lots of networks have the same parent companies, it’s all pretty incestuous. Too many cooks spoil the broth and all that. I have always thought it odd that Disney is in the news business. Plus, I believe that due to a change in the law, it is now legal for one outside owner to own a local affiliate, the local paper AND a local related radio station in the same market. That disturbs me.

        I think that this change to outside owners decreases an individual network’s ability to do no-holds barred stories anymore, and I suspect that may have happened here. The network news departments used to always be in the red, and their policies were not dictated by anyone other than the news director. The networks just factored the financial losses into their budget because they believed in freedom of the press. I’m not sure how much this has changed, this would be something that you would know much more about…but from watching any news broadcast I can say they cover the most ridiculous stuff (i.e. the Kardashians) that Cronkite, Huntley and Brinkley, John Chancellor etc. would have quit rather than cover. It’s more tabloid and ratings-oriented. I think that Dan was probably in a no-win situation.

      • Frodis73

        I am happy to hear this. I have been paying attention to him since he told his story about dealing with panic attacks. He had a panic attack on air! That was awful. I still want to read his book. From what I have read, I have no doubt that he believes the ex’s etc. It is the corporate folks that require these watered down stories.

      • Harpoona Frittata

        Agreed, whoever approved the final cut is really to blame for that disjointed and confused piece.

        But I’m hard-pressed to recall even one sequence in which Harris’s knowledge and concerns about $cn controversies were on display. He seemed almost completely uninformed, incurious and unaware of what the central focus of the piece was.

        Ted Koppel needs to get back in the game here and show everyone how you interview $cn. He could take on lil davey and muffins at the same time 😉

        • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

          I thought the editing was really disorganized and choppy as well, especially at the end.

      • Chewkacca

        Tony— you should change your avatar to Superman. Seriously.
        AAAWOOOGH!

    • Rasha

      He may have well asked some good questions, on and off camera, but the content that is shown is filtered through the producers and studio. I wouldn’t put all the onus on him, as the corporation has their own interests at heart. (viewers and commercials).

    • Always Amazed

      Agree 100%

    • ze moo

      I think that the producers panicked and jumped for joy when Blinky came along. The panic shows in the final cut of the show. The Rathbun stuff was disjointed and seems to have been thrown in to fill out the hour.

      But here was a real to goodness {can that ever be said about any $cineo flunky?} reply from Clam Land. Blinky took up enough time to keep out what I hear was a section on Nora Crest and her disconnection problem. Yingling preempted that time. She and Miscavage will count that as a win. Everyone else said that Yingling was a liar.

      20/20 has enough material for a part 2, lasting at least another hour. All they need for that Emmy Nomination is to bring up the abortion stories and ABC needs to show how $cientology is in violation of the 93 IRS agreement. Hell, spend some time on the religious visa problem that the clams have. Hell, show how the scam works and explain ‘engrams’. Especially the Clam and Obscene Dog. Those are good for a laugh.

      • J. Swift

        Ze moo, I really like your take on this because it explains something I missed: Blinky was thrown in to chew up time and force ABC to cut Nora’s footage. I hope 20/20 does a far more focused show in the future.

    • “The show came off as an exploitative tabloid mess” – i agree, but this is what attracts the attention in big numbers. There are people who wants to dive into this rabbit hole, we will get them too. Those people will find your website. You must be able to see it on your counters by now?

    • Phil McKraken

      Your comments are spot-on.. And this is why you’re not fit to be a VP at Disney. You would prefer quality content. That’s not what sells. It’s not just the ratings that matter. It’s the ratings for the target audience. And by target audience, I mean people most receptive to Disney’s advertisers’ pitches. Those people are not sophisticated or perceptive. Sophisticated audiences are of relatively low value to advertisers, because they’re less responsive to ads. The fine-tuned targeting of programming to pack in more of the dimwits has lowered the quality of much of our programming. That’s one reason so much quality programming is on premium and non-commercial channels, where advertisers’ targets don’t count.

      • Chewkacca

        Yes. Also, they don’t like to solve things; they like controversy, arguments, he said–she said, so they can string things along and keep suckers, I mean viewers, watching. They show a little here, and a little there, try to make BOTH sides look bad. They want viewers to KEEP WATCHING. The viewers are suckered into watching more in the hopes of getting their questions answered. The questions are never FULLY answered, just partially answered. People keep watching and watching, hoping for the complete answer, which never comes. Teasers hint that the answer will be in tomorrow’s program. NOT! The producers’ REAL purpose is “to sell advertising time to sponsors”. Telling the truth is secondary. Often VERY secondary. They usually know what’s really going on, they just don’t tell us. And sometimes that is because of fear of litigation from the C0$. As time passes that fear is lessening. Sooner than you think, Co$ news will be a free-for-all. And all bad. No!….. some bad, some worse, some terrible. Any ACCURATE coverage will be negative. Less fear equals more accuracy.
        GNOOURF!

    • Captain MustSavage

      There were definite flaws with the program but as a never in I didn’t think the show came across too badly. It seemed clear to me that Harris did not believe her and the program was structured so that relevant eyewitness material always followed Monique Yinglings denials and obfuscations in a manner which destroyed her credibility. Gil’s section was particularly powerful. In fact, this piece was stronger than the previous show Harris was involved in. Never ins out there are getting some of the message, JS, they are, and programs are becoming bolder little by little. Keep trying, I’m sure that at some point a newsperson will knock it out of the park.

  • Jgg2012

    The 20/20 episode wasn’t bad, but Harris should have been tougher on Yingling. Where is Shelly? Why are children like Gil in the Sea Org instead of attending school, learning to drive and play sports, etc.? Did you know that, in 2011, Miscavige admitted that the tech was “unintelligible”? Why was there so much violence in the Sea Org (Scientology admits this, they just disagree with Rathbun and Rinder on who started it)–the Catholic Church does not have violence between the Pope and high ranking cardinals? Why is Remini so flawed–she spent millions on the fabulous tech She should be a perfect person. Have you ever met a perfect clear?

    • iampissed

      Show me a clear.

      • April

        In the wise words of Jason Beghe, “Show me a motherfucking clear!”

    • iampissed

      Show me a clear.

  • nottrue
    • Kestrel

      Leah with her arms crossed at the end had that look my mom would have when she just couldn’t wait to hear what excuse I had this time.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner
    • Rasha

      Some kickass entheta, right there…

  • nottrue
    • Kestrel

      Oops.

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      LOL

    • daisy

      Well at least you got the direction right. I wouldn*t bother with a sweater. That cooking , the souls of alll scientology leaders and apologists.

  • Jenny from the Flock

    I didn’t like how much time they gave to the Scientology “side” on the 20/20 episode, as if their claim of being a religion merits some kind of respect. But my God isn’t Mike Rinder a hero?! This show underlined it to me more than anything else. His criticisms of the episode are so valid, but that man is a bloody legend.

    • Ella Raitch

      He’s had quite the journey

  • Lousy Ratatouille

    Did you ever …..
    The Joburg Confessional:
    Well, did you ever …….
    Well, did you ever see anything like that!!
    (refresh)
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4159f2714770e293f279c5841fd9e712eb14e5a969cee9f7df602b34a024ca88.jpg

  • nottrue

    What a book this guy could write … Come on Pat drop Tony a line…… https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/4d7c083450fc6c10c676bc419007a7902c20f91423126048950b8c5b15fa5dc5.jpg

    • Skeptic

      I think he’s happy teaching english in the Czech republic. I doubt you will hear from him, although now would be a great time.

      • sizzle8

        He lives in the US. Wyoming i think.

        • As of few years ago, yes. He can be anywhere now. I don’t care any more.
          Leah has bigger balls apparently.

    • Bo

      Who is he?

      • grundoon
        • Bo

          Thanks. That’s interesting. I’ve never seen a picture of him. I wish he would come forward, but has probably been given a reason not to.

  • Skeptic

    It’s clear that CO$ and Yingling are not real good at providing the big lie or lying in general. Perhaps they should review how a real expert in the field does it… Trump.

  • nottrue
    • Rasha

      “…and this mummy was found in the Peruvian mountains, at about 22,000 feet, interred about, oh, 4,000 years ag– what? OH! OMX! IT’S MOVING!! SWEET XENU! It’s horrible!! OH, NO NO NO!!! Get away! Get– move away, please! We’re going to try to mov—”

      *static*

    • outraged
      • Harpoona Frittata

        First the high-frequency eyelid flutter, then the eyes roll back, and finally, the moment of possession as she falls completely under Master’s remote control.

        I can almost guarantee that if you were to question her today she’d have almost no recall of what she said, simply because she’s wasn’t there…her tiny little thetan had been scooted aside, so that Master could control her completely.

    • madame duran

      Her teeth look a bit…discoloured (like stank mouth, rot toothed Hubbard).

  • iampissed
    • salin
      • Reconnect.org

        • salin

          Awesome – didn’t realize you had built that redirect in. Dice – you continue to impress. *big smile*

          • Not me 🙂 …someone donated that link
            eta: it’s a link with a long anti-scientology history and it still provides a good amount of traffic.

            • salin

              Kudos to the person who donated the link. Thanks for the context.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Great vocalist

    • John Prince

      Cheers! …👈one could also Interpret that as a poke in the eye to krustie! 😅

  • ze moo

    Looks like another 1k comment day at the bunker. I’ve noticed a huge upsurge at Das Rinderblog too. So many are being educated and many of them are jumping into the fray. Lots of room in the pool for everyone. Just get out to pee.

    With the huge numbers of exs telling their stories, no clam can hide anymore. I don’t care how ‘beautiful’ you think $cientology is, you will be called out on it. Let’s see how long the big cleb guns can keep silent. Krustie Ally and Danny Masterson are not big guns. Unless Cruise and Travolta come out swinging, $cientology has no more ‘confront’. I don’t see either of them actually answering any real questions thought. At best it will be so heavily scripted that multiple takes will be required to do it right. As any real discussion of $cientology by the terrible twosome is out of the question, what can $cientology do to answer the hurricane of entheta? Nothing. Absolutely nothing.

    Maybe SuMP will finally have a product to send out? I doubt that anyone except Harvey Levin will touch it. Everyone else will just make fun of it. That ‘laughter ensues’ meme is what is really keeping all the clebs and clams silent. They just don’t like being laughed at. And they don’t want anyone to look too closely at them. That tax exemption problem has not gone away.

    • EmmaDaoust

      Laughter ensues at the inanity, yes, but also more angry booing and hissing as the abuses are being seen by so many more.

    • outraged

      The comments are exponentially rising like the days of Going Clear.

      • salin

        The immediate stories hitting the media after the Sundance premiere of Going Clear brough me here (though it was many months before I delurked.) Hope this exponential spike brings many more voices to the choral ensemble of the UB commenting community.

        • Kestrel

          I’m glad you’re here, salin.

          • salin

            Me, too Kestrel, very glad to be here.

    • Jennifer Plesman Jackson

      Well, I need to chime in to reach that 1k comment day. With the viewership 20/20 has, at least the show will get never-ins like me interested and as disjointed as the show was, the lawyer’s performance put another nail in the $cn coffin. An enormously wealthy religion and they send a non-$cn with a horrible screen presence to speak for them???? Simply ridiculous. I totally understand how ABC is trying not to be sued but it was such a poorly edited show. Too much time focusing on OLD footage from years ago, media harassment and whether or not Leah was being paid. The real issues of forced abortions, slavery, horrific SO living conditions, intimidation, beatings, imprisonment, mind-control, coerced “donations”, disconnection, key people who haven’t been seen for years, etc, etc, could have been put on a screen for everyone to see….like a scrolling list. Ah, but those pesky lawsuits they are afraid of… Thanks ABC, for what you did…we hope your heart is in the right place. We hope other shows will jump on this bandwagon like A&Es Remini/Rinder Aftermath show that is EXCELLENT!!!!

      • salin

        Welcome to the Bunker Commenting Community Jennifer. Great points – poor production (or at least what could have been done much more effectively) – but still – expanding the audience. Particularly key while the Aftermath is still running – and building the audience to increase the likelihood of more seasons. Heck two episodes were added while running this first short season – prior to the expanded audience that the 20/20 how might bring. Again – glad to meet you Jennifer, hope we see more of you here.

        • Jennifer Plesman Jackson

          Thank you, Salin, just trying to do my part. Have learned a LOT since reading Leah’s book, watching the show, and reading blogs. Have written my congressmen, the IRS, A&E and yesterday, phoned the FBI in Tampa. Expecting $cn goons on my front doorstep any day now… lol. I promise to post pics! I love how people are rallying. I love how there are people reaching out to help these poor souls who have been brainwashed. I wish I had some $ to contribute to the go fund me account for the Call Me billboard but I hope I can very soon. Praying daily for people to find the courage to escape this thing… your welcoming note is greatly appreciated… thank you!

      • Ella Raitch

        Welcome Jennifer

      • nose

        This episode of 20/20 speaks to why I have lost faith in the show and reporters. In my younger years I enjoyed the show and thought the reporters did a great job of investigating and reporting facts even when it went against common beliefs. In the last 10 years or so I have yet to come across a major network news reporter who is not muzzled by putting in a pc spin or bending over to be fair to both parties.

      • Rasha

        Hi, Jennifer! Plenty of room on the Bunkersofa!

      • Phoebequeen

        Well said.

    • Kestrel

      Speaking of Tom Cruise, the footage of him in the ABC piece didn’t do him any favors. Too bad they didn’t provide an explanation regarding what they were showing.

      • I wish they would’ve showed him with his maniacal laughing.

        • John Prince

          I wanna hear Laughing tommy tell us where Shelly is 😂😅😎 ..
          (this clambake is perkin’ up, i’ll go fetch another Keg! )

    • Harpoona Frittata

      ” That ‘laughter ensues’ meme is what is really keeping all the celebs and clams silent. They just don’t like being laughed at.”

      So true, and it also drives lil davey the thin-skinned and pompously self-important tiny tyrant, completely mad to be held up to such resounding public ridicule and scorn.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      The uptick at Rinder’s blog has been incredible–a mix of people newly learning about scientology and still picking their jaws up off the floor, people who’ve been following for a while and just now making the leap to de-lurk, and most movingly, a “coming out party” of exes breaking their silence for the first time. Reading through the comments over there the last few days feels like watching a movement swell and take shape. It fills me with hope.

  • truth will set u free

    Why didn’t Harris ask Yingling how much she was paid to.represent Scientology/ David Miscavige? I was very disappointed in the way the show seemed to.gloss over so many times she got away with saying the stories of exes are fabrications and made up stories. I really did not like how she brushed off that the tax exempt status of Scio would never be threatened by anyone , especially Remini. That is probably what keeps her in million dollar beach houses, the retainer she’s gotten paid since 1993.

  • Mary Smith

    Another area to target is all the Scientology run businesses that are scams such as American Power & Gas. If these businesses were shut down the funding from people like Tom cummins would run dry. This company lies and tricks people into changing their energy providers.

    • chukicita

      I will choose to not do business with WISE companies but trying to break small business owners is to me unethical in the wog sense.

      I would rather address the supposed nonprofit organization that is imposing the management by statistics structure that is, to put it nicely, not best practices in business and creates a business environment mired in desperation; where it is too easy to be pressured into cheating customers to make quick stacks.

        • chukicita

          Any business that has a permanent employment ad in the Razzline is not on Chuki’s List.
          American Power and Gas already has a boatload of complaints against it. And Cummins’ company TC Worthmore claimed it was a small accounting and bookkeeping business when it was separately claiming to run credit reports and investigative stuff. Sadly, it was only active a year or two in Fla before it fell off sunbiz for not filing annual reports.

          But then there are Scientologists like the late Loren Westenberger. His family-owned tree service was truly awesome, and there were many times he provided his services at no cost to the nonprofit where I used to work. He’d bring in saplings for everyone and just hand them out. He was so out-exchange! And he would never try to sell anyone on Scn.

          So I cannot endorse a blanket statement that all Scientologist-run businesses are scams; but the ones implementing Hubbard tech and WISE membership to me will always be suspect.

  • It’s too bad that the major part of when Scientology was lobbying to have the US beat-up on Sweden is over the horizon of the House/Senate records. Just of the tail-end of it is a lot of expensive shenanigans, but it was going on years before that:

    Category:US House of Representatives#Religious Technology Center

    • I mean, in the end Sweden only had to make an express change to their constitution to satisfy the US and CoS .. no biggie!

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Interesting to see CO$ RTC lobbyist Stephen Amitay’s extensive connections in the world of Homeland Security and private security contractors. How convenient.

  • ReallyMGM

    Information packed post today! Please click the Red ❤ (under comments) to recommend and raise its visibility on Discus.

    • Rasha

      Hear, hear!

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Monique Yingling must be getting ready to retire because her performance on 20/20 was ridiculously horrendous and inappropriate. There is only one response as to whether it is appropriate for a church to ask children about their sexuality: “No, it is not appropriate Dan, and the church has it under investigation and it will never happen again.” There need to be lawsuits brought by members who were abused as children and subjected to this crap. As a lawyer, Yingling’s statements on 20/20 will be considered as church statements, even the part where she claimed the sexuality question might be appropriate at times. What a shitstorm Yingling has created. . . .

    • Yeah, I can’t believe she didn’t have better standard canned answers like the one you cite.

      • John Prince

        Isn’t it somehow Fitting that cob uses a tax-lawyer (and a really shitty-looking one at that, who can’t lie worth diddley) as his head puppet now?

        • chukicita

          He has ONE Job. And he can’t show up and do it.

          • John Prince

            Has somebody checked that, by the way,? Maybe she WAS blinking in Morse-Code saying “PLEASE, XENU, GET ME THE FUCK ATTA HERE:PLEASE, XENU,GET ME THE FUCK ATTA. ..”

          • John Prince

            ..I just find it somehow Poetic(Wog)Justice that now,as the Sky is Falling on co$, muffins yingyang is the BEST defence, uhmm..pardon me, attack this chickenShit can Muster? 😅 I mean, I haven’t seen a single Episode of Leah’s Show or any of it’s “aftermath” like 20/20 but simply judging from the MASSIVE negative commentary flaring across all Forums of “social”media one can only conclude she’s the worst liar the World has ever seen! I thought scibots were supposed to be Experts,trained by elron himself to lie? The Tech isn’t working captain pissypants! !😅😆😂

    • grundoon

      “No, it is not appropriate Dan, and the church has it under investigation and it will never happen again.”

      Yingling can’t say that. LRH forbade the Chruch from taking such advice from its lawyers. Lawyers are paid to clear away anything that obstructs Scientology – not to make Scientology comply.

      DEPT OF GOVT AFFAIRS

      … Under this department comes the corporation’s solicitors, attorneys, chartered accountants and any attorney or accountant hired directly by the corporation for outside legal or tax or filing purposes….

      … this Department is enjoined from forcing government laws or rulings upon the Central Org or HCO by threat of danger or ominous advices, nor may the Department employ either solicitors nor accountants who specialize in ominous advices to the Orgs since the Orgs could be discouraged or impeded by such.

      The object of the Department is to broaden the impact of Scientology upon governments and other organizations and is to conduct itself so as to make the name and repute of Scientology better and more forceful. Therefore defensive tactics are frowned upon in the department. We are not trying to make the Central Orgs and HCOs “be good”. We are trying to make their reach more secure and effective. Only attacks resolve threats.

      In the face of danger from Govts or courts there are only two errors one can make: (a) do nothing and (b) defend. The right things to do with any threat are to (1) Find out if we want to play the offered game or not, (2) If not, to derail the offered game with a feint or attack upon the most vulnerable point which can be disclosed in the enemy ranks, (3) Make enough threat or clamor to cause the enemy to quail, (4) Don’t try to get any money out of it, (5) Make every attack by us also sell Scientology and (6) Win.

      If attacked on some vulnerable point by anyone or anything or any organization, always find or manufacture enough threat against them to cause them to sue for peace. Peace is bought with an exchange of advantage, so make the advantage and then settle. Don’t ever defend. Always attack. Don’t ever do nothing. Unexpected attacks in the rear of the enemy’s front ranks work best.

      Never put the organization on “wait” because of courts or other matters. It’s up to the Department to make the actions of HCO Secs and Org Secs right, not enjoin right actions on the HCO and Org Secs….

      The goal of the Department is to bring the government and hostile philosophies or societies into a state of complete compliance with the goals of Scientology. This is done by high level ability to control and in its absence by low level ability to overwhelm. Introvert such agencies. Control such agencies. Scientology is the only game on Earth where everybody wins. There is no overt in bringing good order….

      L. RON HUBBARD
      HCO PL 15 AUGUST 1960

      • PickAnotherID

        Subversive much?

    • Ella Raitch

      It worked!

      • salin

        If going to run a test – posting the pic of a classic book makes a lot of sense.

  • Username

    I think the average American is sick of people in positions of power abusing those weaker and victimizing the victims. Cosby started the outrage. When so many people come forward with similar stories of abuse over extended periods of time without any apparent bonds of fraternity; people can spot the BS miles away. I think the average American watching last night was outraged. Victims are forced to defend themselves publicly while a high paid attorney deflects questions without committing to any real answers and attacking victims. Strength lies in numbers to fight deep pockets and Leah is the magnet bringing the powder keg together.

  • Someone smarter than me should do a scientific analysis some day soon on why scientology solo auditors get cancer. Because an OT 5 I know, apparently just got diagnosed with it. And he is not even a smoker.

    My wild guess, all the solo auditing of imaginary beings confuses the body on a cellular level. And the stress.

    Dianetics and Scientology, Clear and OT = FRAUD and DECEPTION.

    • stillgrace2

      I’ve been wondering about the high incidence of cancer among scientologists myself, Dodo.
      I wonder if there has been a list published of diagnosed cases. I’m going to check.
      ETA: I found something.
      http://blog.scientologyrecovery.com/scientologists-and-cancer/
      ETA: I’m going to keep nosing around.

      • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

        Some of the current theories on cancer based on research:

        1. Genetic predisposition
        2. Exposure to toxins
        3. Stress
        4. Insomnia, weight gain, shift work, lack of exercise…..lead to increased incidence of breast cancer
        5. Poor nutrition
        6. Inadequate health care and screening.

        Your body makes cancer cells everyday, and is normally very efficient in seeking out and killing these cancer cells. Your immune system is suppressed by continued stress, therefore is not as able to seek out and destroy the enemy. Add all of the other things above, and certainly Scientology would encourage increased rates of cancer death.

    • Tony Ortega

      If they had done Super Power and could control the saline content of their cells this wouldn’t happen.

      • Fer sure.

        Eta: If I ever learn I have cancer, at least I will be able to say I got it from enjoying smoking, drinking beer and being a sexual deviant. Not from going Clear and OT.

        • stillgrace2

          Well … I guess there’s that. Be well, Dodo.

          • Be well, Stillgrace2.

            • stillgrace2

              Oh, I am. I don’t smoke or drink much. I’ll probably die of boredom.

            • Lol

            • Sherbet

              Not if you hang around the Bunker. It’s way too exciting here.

            • stillgrace2

              So true. I have a feeling that things are really heating up. For heaven’s sake, we have full size Miscavige graffiti in L.A. I can’t tell you how much I’m enjoying that. I usually frown on taggers and such, but this is the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics.

            • Sherbet

              Ha! I like it when Hubbard’s words bite scientology in its bloated ass.

        • John Prince

          Dodo. .You ARE a Laser!

      • John Prince

        You’re getting alittle prissy now, aren’t You Master O?

    • I sometimes wonder if it’s the mild electric current that is run through the body from the e-meter, year after year.

      • That can be another contributing factor indeed.

        • BobbyTolberto aka TDA

          Cancer has been known to be related to stress, and recent research has suggested a link between stress and cancer metastasis, as stress has already been know to affect the immune system in an adverse way.

          Stress could be unifying theme in cancer spread

          Previous studies have shown that stress is a risk factor for cancer,
          and for example, that psychological stress is linked to breast cancer aggressiveness.

          And researchers already know that ATF3 is activated when all types of cells
          experience stressful conditions that threaten their ability to maintain a constant
          internal environment (homeostasis).

          Under normal circumstances, triggering ATF3 protects the body from harm by causing
          normal cells to commit suicide if there is a risk they have become permanently damaged
          by the stressful conditions (eg lack of oxygen or irradiation).

          When cancer cells first arise, the immune system recognizes them as foreign agents
          and enlists immune cells to attack them. In the early stages of cancer development this
          works. But then things go wrong: one reason is cancer cells start to send signals to
          immune cells that cause them to misbehave in a way that helps the tumor grow.

          In the new study, researchers at Ohio State University show that cancer cells are able
          to switch on ATF3 in immune cells that have been summoned to tumor sites. The result
          is ATF3 then causes the immune cells to malfunction and allow cancer cells to escape
          from the tumor and spread to other parts of the body.

          Senior author Tsonwin Hai, a professor of molecular and cellular biochemistry at Ohio, says:

          “If your body does not help cancer cells, they cannot spread as far. So really, the rest
          of the cells in the body help cancer cells to move, to set up shop at distant sites.
          And one of the unifying themes here is stress.”

          http://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/265254.php

          The current used in the E-meter is to small to affect any physiological processes in a human being.

          • stillgrace2

            So … it’s not the auditing from the emeter, it’s the stress from being regged constantly and worrying about the BTs all over the body. Parasites are stressfull.

      • stillgrace2

        I’m wondering if there’s a higher incident with solo NOTS auditors compared to non-OT public.
        Sometimes people are on OTVII for years and years … much more exposure.

      • grundoon

        Arnie Lerma thinks the e-meter current causes addiction due to a release of endorphins. He calls it “auditine.”

        • Sherbet

          Yeah, well, Arnie Lerma.

      • Sherbet

        Which reminds me of another criticism I had to the 20/20 show: When Leah was talking about the emeter, she said it “reads your thoughts” or something like that. We know she doesn’t believe that and was speaking facetiously, but it didn’t look that way on the show.

        • Ella Raitch

          I wondered whether that particular footage was taken much earlier and she has now changed her beliefs

          • Sherbet

            It was from last spring’s program.

        • I had that same thought.

        • One of the great things about having a series, is that you have the space to explore a subject with a huge and complex back-story.

          The 20/20 programme was a throwback to the situation where you just don’t have that. You have to produce a ‘potted history’ of Scientology and over-simplify to get people up to speed. As Ella Raich points out elsewhere, the ‘read your thoughts’ footage may have come from an earlier stage of Leah’s recovery.

          Also, it seems to me that Yingling successfully disrupted the planned programme because it had to be changed at short notice to fit in her dissembling. The result was that some very dated material was taken down off the shelf to fill in the gaps.

          Her ‘contribution’ demonstrated that Scientology has no answer whatsoever to the accusations made against it – but it also made the programme far less informative that it could have been, because ABC could not resist the opportunity to grill a representative of that endangered species, a Scientology spokesperson. As it turned out, she deflected all of the direct questions.

          Yingling’s contribution was ridiculous – but in the circumstances it achieved more than anyone could reasonably have expected.

    • A culture of heavy smoking (even if your OT5 does not smoke, they are likely exposed to the smoke of others – passivbe smoking is almost as dangrous) poor nutrition (they don’t have the time nor the money to eat properly), social isolation, the general background of stress and (sometimes) chronic sleep deprivation are all known risk factors.

      On top of this, is the serious mistrust that Scientologists have for Scientific medicine. If you are to have any chance of recovering from cancer you must receive an early diagnosis and take your treatment seriously. The social situation of Scientologists militates heavily against all of these things.

      When they are diagnosed, it’s also noticed more because, according to Scientology, such things simply should not happen. This provides even more motivation for denial and, when they die, nobody speaks of the matter, implying that they somehow ‘pulled it in’.

      Finally, in cultures where you have to pay for treatment after insurance runs out, you need to be able to afford this/ OT’s are likely to be broke, and double down on Scientology in the vain hope that another course will ‘cure’ them.

      More people are going to die of cancer if they have an elevated risk, and don’t treat it in a timely and effective manner. That’s the situation in Scientology in general, and among OTs in particular. With respect, I don’t see how a delusion, in and of itself, will cause cancer. There is no physical mechanism by which this could happen. Also, this hypothesis is unnecessary. There are straightforward, well-understood, reasons why OT’s are at risk, and are more likely to die of the disease when they get it.

  • grundoon

    It is only the negligence or alter-is or non-compliance on the part of certain persons on staff or in the professional employ of org (such as attorneys, accountants) that gets the org in trouble.

    Such beings are uniformly degraded beings. They are at best pcs. They are not truly staff members or effective professionals.

    The more degraded beings you employ or retain as professionals to “fill a post” or “need a lawyer” or for any other reason, the more the org will be at effect. These are the people who get you and your org in trouble. Their characteristic is alter-is of tech, alter-is of policy, and non-compliance with Tech, Policy and orders.

    – L. Ron Hubbard – HCO PL 22 March 1967 – PERSONNEL REQUIREMENT

    • ups! call COB – he was just a kid when LRH wrote that

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Shit!!! That’s like a bolt of lightning from the past, exploding at lil davey the high crime-commiting, policy-altering, squirrel tech-creating feet.

    • Sherbet

      What, in the phony Hubbard lexicon, does “alter-is” mean?

      • Bo

        Change.

        • Sherbet

          Thanks. Heaven forbid Ron should have ever kept his “scripture” simple.

          • DoveAlexa

            It’s all about making the inductee so confused and frustrated that they just give up and go along with everything.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Ok, goes back to hubbard’s idea of what ‘is’ is.

        “Is” is the garden variety of how something exists as we commonly perceive it. It would be its age and condition, duration, what it does, design, composition, truth or falsity, etc. A complete grasp of it’s existence. This is known as “isness.”

        There is a sort of philosophical idea called “as-isness” which hubbard conceived as the state that existed precisely at the moment of creation of something. When it winked into existence by the action of creation, it had “as-isness” at that moment and only that moment. Thereafter due to time and other changes it had “is-ness.”

        Hubbard insisted that if you created again (in your powers of mind or whatever) something exactly as it was at the moment of as-isness then the two creations would self destruct like matter and anti-matter. So part of the idea of auditing is to somehow through remembering or re-experiencing these past things, you would at some how duplicate exactly the as-isness of something that was bothering you and it would then disappear and not bother you anymore.

        Ultimately, his idea was that if everyone got rehabilitated we could all just do that with the entire physical universe and it would disappear and we would all be free of this stuff.

        This making of things disappear by creating an exact duplicate he called “as-is-ing” To as-is something is to make it go away by this process.

        “Alter-is” is the practice of entering some untruth or lie into something so it is not the truth or can’t be understood or doesn’t work anymore. So to “alter-is” an order is to misinterpret it or change it in practice or misunderstand it or sabotage it deliberately so it doesn’t do what was intended. To “alter-is” tech is to change it so it doesn’t work.

        So that’s a short rundown.

        • Sherbet

          Good Lord.

    • sizzle8

      In the world of Scientology, Miscavige is the biggest squirrel of all.
      Per their own definitions, he and his sycophants are not scientologists.

    • iampissed

      Bet my kid would ware one.

  • Mick Roberts

    My apologies if this has been discussed (I just joined and started posting here this past Wednesday), but I was curious about the LAPD report that is due to Leah regarding Shelly Miscavige. I haven’t seen an update, but I found one of Tony’s articles that states the following:

    On December 19, a week after Leah made her request and three days before it was required to respond, the department sent a letter under Chief Charlie Beck’s name saying that it was invoking the state records law, which allows an additional two weeks for “unusual circumstances.”

    From my understanding, if December 19 was three days before the original deadline, that would mean that December 22 was the original deadline. Two weeks after Dec. 22 is January 5th. Perhaps it’s a 3-day lag-time to receive it (Tony reported December 19, and the copy of the Chief Beck letter in this article was dated 3 days earlier on Dec. 16, so I assume it was snail-mailed). This story is what got my attention to the abuses of the church a few years ago, when Leah’s leaving the church revolved around the “Where’s Shelly?” question.

    • 7am Eastern Time. This blog. Every morning.

    • Sherbet

      A couple of Bunkeroos have mentioned the deadline having been passed, but, so far, we have no news. I’m sure Tony is watching, though.

      • Tony Ortega

        I’m told the LAPD has until Monday to cough something up. We’ll see.

        • Mick Roberts

          Thanks for the update Tony.

          • Sherbet

            See, Mick? What did I tell you? He’s on the case, as usual.

        • madame duran

          When a deadline is calculated, is the literal number of days counted or does it only apply to regular, Monday to Friday business days?

        • John Prince

          You didn’t hear my chilling SuperWog out-of-body experience, did You? ..once I farted silently on an elevator and I CONCENTRATED with ALL my SuperWog Powers that the guy next to me would smell it and then POOF!@#$ the comline went in; he looked over at me with a nasty,disgusted Face and I KNEW I did this with my Universe-controlling SuperWog Powers! !! I wanted to make a Video testamonial but then I remembered You doctrined us to keep our SuperPowers a secret,for obvious reasons but sometimes I just have to let it out! 😅😆😂

      • I’m sure Leah’s lawyers are watching.

    • Harpoona Frittata

      Good point! Times up, LAPD, what’s the report?

      Although Shelly’s internal exile has received plenty of attention, there are other lesser known $cilons. like Heber Jentschz, cherch president, who’s not been seen in public or heard from for a decade or so. The Disappeared of $cn need to be kept in the spotlight of media attention and public concern too.

  • grundoon

    L. Ron Hubbard thought security checks (“sec checks”) were one of his best ideas ever.

    (Later the name was changed to confessionals to sound Catholesque, as part of the “religious cloaking” project to get tax exemption.)

    Here are a couple of hard-to-find resources for those who want to learn way too much about Scientology sec checking / confessional questions and processes.

    HSSC: Hubbard Senior Security Checker Course

    HCO WW Security Forms & HCO Information Letters issued 1961-62

    • Jimmy3

      What crimes did you commit to get those resources? Hmm?

      • Welcome to the Bunker!

      • grundoon

        I get persistent reads on these items…

        12. DO YOU FEEL SCIENTOLOGY IS A FRAUD OR RACKET?

        13. DO YOU COMPLAIN ABOUT HOW OVERWORKED AND UNDERPAID YOU ARE?

        14. DO YOU EVER PRIVATELY LAUGH AT THE ANTICS OF YOUR SUPERIORS?

        I just hope they don’t put me on the Whole Track Sec Check….

        23. HAVE YOU EVER BLANKETED BODIES FOR THE SENSATION KICK?

        69. HAVE YOU EVER KILLED THE WRONG PERSON?

        144. HAVE YOU EVER CAUSED SOMETHING TO APPEAR IN AN UNEXPECTED PLACE?

        168. HAVE YOU EVER LOST A DOLL BODY ENTRUSTED TO YOU?

        233. HAVE YOU EVER GIVEN SPIRITS AN EVIL REPUTATION?

        318. HAVE YOU GIVEN DOLL BODIES A BAD NAME?

        And the question I dread most…

        210. HAVE YOU EVER CONSISTENTLY MADE A PRACTICE OF FURNISHING
        USELESS DATA?

        • Jimmy3

          Yeah I slam out on that last one too… I usually just get home and throw my useless data on the sofa.

        • Liberated

          I said horrible things about my Barbie doll at one time….I’m so ashamed!

      • Taffy Sinclair

        I have no crimes. I’m just a straight-up SP.

        Is THAT a crime? I sure hope so…..

        • Jimmy3

          So you claim to have no crimes, but you overtly hope you do have crimes. I see.

    • Kay (aka Nasty Lady)

      Yup the best ideas he’d ever gotten….from Hitler and Stalin’s playbook.

    • sizzle8

      It was also called ‘Integrity Processing’ at one time.

      • grundoon

        CONFESSIONAL PROCEDURE

        “Sec Checking,” “Integrity Processing” and “Confessionals” are all the exact same procedure and any materials on these subjects is interchangeable under these titles (HCOB 24 Jan 1977 TECH CORRECTION ROUND-UP) ….

        Here is the basic procedure for a Confessional:

        1. Set up the room with the auditor seated closer to the door than the pc, so that he can gently put the pc back in his chair if he tries to blow the session. Ensure all the necessary materials are to hand, per HCOB 4 Dec 77, CHECKLIST FOR SETTING UP SESSIONS AND AN E-METER….

        4. Put in any needed R-Factor on doing the Confessional. Briefly explain the meter and the procedure to the person if they are not already known to him or her. The term “I am not auditing you” only occurs when a Confessional is done for justice reasons. Otherwise the procedure is the same. (By “justice reasons” is meant when a person is refusing to come clean on a Comm Ev, B of I, etc., or as part of a specific HCO investigation when the person is withholding data or evidence from such HCO personnel.) A Confessional done for justice reasons is not auditing and the data uncovered is not withheld from the proper authorities. Any other Confessional is auditing and is kept confidential….

        8. Take up each reading question, getting the what, when, where, all of every overt. Find out who missed it or who nearly found out, and what that person did to make the pc wonder if he knew. Get specifics, not general or vague answers. If no F/N, take the overt E/S [earlier similar] to F/N. And ensure that the original question that read is taken to F/N before you leave it.

        9. For security investigation purposes, get all the exact names, dates, addresses, phone numbers, and any other information that might be helpful in investigating the case further, should this be needed….

        12. If the person gives off another’s overt, ask if he ever did something like that. You want what the person himself has done….

        21. If you want a pc to stop fiddling with the cans you make them put their hands on the table and keep them there….

        25. When the Confessional is fully completed, the auditor who has administered the Confessional informs the person he is forgiven for the overts and withholds he has just confessed, using the following statement: “By the power invested in me, any overts and withholds you have fully and truthfully told me are forgiven by Scientologists.” The usual response of the pc is instant relief and VGIs [very good indicators]. On any adverse reaction to the Proclamation of Forgiveness, get the rest of the withhold or repair the Confessional session at once….

        L. RON HUBBARD
        HCOB 30 NOVEMBER 1978

    • Good Twitter materials – Let’s put John and the Gem in Session!

  • Going to bed soon. Truth Rundown is a crime against humanity.

    • Sherbet

      Insomnia Rundown is worse. Goodnight, Dodo.

      • No, it’s not worse. Truth Rundown is a soul rape. Later.

        • Sherbet

          I know. You’re right.

  • madame duran

    Still no active SMP pumping out the global dissemination. I wonder if any current Scientologist noticed that?

    http://www.tickcounter.com/countup/1464462000000/america-los_angeles/owd/FFFFFF3B5998000000FF0000/No_On-Air_Programming_since_SMP_Grand_Opening (months, weeks, days)
    http://www.webcountdown.net/?a=ZuRrbYa (days, hours, minutes, seconds)

    • UhLasare

      There were a lot of clips of Scientology buildings with ACTUAL PEOPLE inside them in the 20/20 episode yesterday. I wonder if that’s all they do at SMP – make attack videos, and hold fake Scientology services.

      • madame duran

        To date, Golden Era Studio (at Gold/INT Base) still produces Scientology instructional and propaganda videos. Not simply the bulk…ALL OF THEM.
        The scenes of people flooding into the cult’s buildings are staged. That said, the orgs actually have some people in them…not much, but at there’s at least a staff member to occupy the space. Did you notice that when flashes of the SMP studio were shown in the 20/20 segment (within the last minute of the show), there were ZERO people working in them? Lots of gleaming, new equipment and furnishings…but no people. Where are the employees? The cult can’t afford to hire actors to stage a bustling studio because it would imply to viewers (both Scientologist and non-Scientologist alike) that SMP is currently operational…which, of course, it isn’t. Local Scientologists may go down there to take a peek or a tour of the facility only to discover that nothing is really happening there. Can you imagine the fallout from that disillusionment?? The cult is so full of LIES.

  • Mymy88

    Drive by… I’ve been living in the land of NetFlix. I had to get away from reality for a while and get my mind off some ongoing travesties on until I get a grip. I have not got it yet but no fear, right now I’m sailing through on a marathon of Luke Cage episodes. Oh, and I love Tony Ortega’s new Facebook page. A definite upvote for that!

    • DoveAlexa

      I watch episodes of mystery science theater 3K on youtube, for when you run out of things.

      • Mymy88

        Thanks. I used to watch that back in the day and it could be really hilarious but I didn’t like how it had a lot of things that were just kind of chit chat. I did not have the patience to wait for the nuggets lol. I guess you could say I’m high maintenance when it came to laughs watching MST3K lol. Maybe if they had sets of funniest moments.

        • DoveAlexa

          Honestly, I have it running in the background while I play a game. I couldn’t watch it on tv.

          • Mymy88

            Thanks. That is a good idea!

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Ot, but this is some fun. Only could find it on HBO until this week.
    Enjoy.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_mhkdFYByCg

    • Liberated

      I’ve seen it …..it’s great.

    • Newiga

      Hilarious! She was talented in so many ways. R.I.P Carrie. You are missed.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Mrs. Douglas and I just finished watching “Bright Lights” on HBO. This documentary on Debbie Reynolds and Carrie Fisher had been in the works already, but it packs quite an emotional wallop in light of their recent deaths. It’s very much worth seeing.

      http://www.hbo.com/documentaries/bright-lights-starring-carrie-fisher-and-debbie-reynolds

      • Newiga

        Thanks for the recommendations. Thankfully, it’s available on HBO Nordic. They were both such talented ladies. This’ll be a treat.

  • sizzle8

    The breathtaking hypocrisy of this woman.
    Family is for her but not for others. Here she is with her two sons, Johnny and Casey Feffer.
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/8db35f6843dfe837f97a81330ebf1e958781c57edb2ac8ac53608fed999d05c6.jpg

  • Reconstructed this Tom the Cat Meme and corrected a Spelling error: Any suggestions or can you see any new errors? https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/a91e8653819473940d470685fd04a7dac00faca6b16fce402d4556c3468f66bc.png

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      No errors… 🙂

    • madame duran

      There’s no “u” in “labour”. 😉

      Great job! Will pass on!

      • Ok so it does check out 100% 🙂 he he 2 days work wtf! but i finally got the setup so i can mass-produce tweets like these.

    • Ella Raitch

      Lookin good

    • chukicita

      Human trafficking?

      • Yes… but wasn’t sure about that one. Could replace “DESTROYING FAMILIES”, as “HUMAN TRAFFICKING” might score higher

  • grundoon

    Margery Wakefield demonstrates how a Joburg sec check is done.
    https://youtu.be/Rc1Wkh7bOTc

    • Are you guilty of anything? – LOL…. to funny!

      • Newiga

        I’m guilty of asking too many questions.

        • well.. think of all the answers they produce

  • Dave Reams

    In the upcoming era of the Platinum Age of Tech, giant Sea Org breeding centers will be established in all the underground LRH book suppositories as COB realizes that his shoes won’t shine themselves, his toilet won’t flush itself, and his fists can’t punch himself.

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/browbeat/2017/01/07/watch_elisabeth_moss_in_the_teaser_for_the_handmaid_s_tale.html

  • What really would make a huge difference, is to use the Twitter/Facebook share buttons from here https://www.gofundme.com/stopscientologydisconnection
    Otherwise it is going real good “$3,655 of $9,950 goal” in less that 48 hours

  • This is the current numbers from stopscientologydisconnection.com
    So it’s going up and the referrers pictures show that most traffic is coming from Twitter (t.co) and we still have davidmiscavigehates.us on the list…
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/52efb88d692e4a4a0011ab1d4472f727372cfe9b81a6e54136a574e5c2f2feb8.png
    https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/ca3432cc938498ed75395cf0073c07473fd07c4bca4a59099dda827b1ce47055.png

  • Looking at the picture of the two Fialkoffs I notice that the they are doing the same thing that Miscavige does with his hands when he on a podium – either palms flat with fingers pointed outwards, or ‘making a spider’ with your fingers.

    I wonder – do people just emulate Miscavige, or has he laid down a ‘speecifying tech’ that requires them to do this kind of thing.

  • gibbs slap

    Scientology is nothing more than a fake… a fraud…. a cult….and a brainwashing ideology. created as a joke and a means of allowing hubbard….. who was a failed sci-fi writer…. so he would never again….. need to work for a living… his books are a joke… .he only wrote one halfway readable book… the rest are trash…. and travolta destroyed it in that failed movie…

    the beliefs of scientology…. read like a really badly writen sci-fi comic opera… next to them… the old flash gordon serials…. are pulitzer prize material… just ask zenu and the galactic overlords….. lol… wow…

    this group of frauds need to lose their tax exemption status…. and be forced to pay all these years of back taxes… they fraudulently haven’t paid…. they are not a religion….

  • JJ

    Watched it, the blinking, still really telling and the down to the left. Shouldn’t a lawyer be able to look you in the eye and lie. I thought that was sort of required to pass the bar in most states… S’really funny that her best answer seemed to be: well I raised my kids Catholic and that is just as bad… Is that really the angle you want to go with?