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20 questions about Scientology — with answers that get to the center of a dying movement

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Contributor Jeffrey Augustine has put together another list for us, and this one gets to the heart of the matter — what, legally, is the Church of Scientology, and how is it still a thing?

We think you’ll enjoy this exegesis as Jeff takes us step by step through this examination of how the church exists, on paper at least, as it goes through one of its most difficult periods.

 
1: What is the Church of Scientology?

Technically speaking, there is no single entity known as the “Church of Scientology.” As the organization told the IRS, the term “Church of Scientology” is one of convenience referring to all of the churches in the Scientology hierarchy:

 
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“Flag” (the Flag Service Organization in Clearwater, Florida) is a separate Scientology church, as is the Religious Technology Center, the Church of Spiritual Technology, and so on. All Scientology churches are legally separate.

2: Why are all the churches in the Scientology hierarchy legally separate?

In order to mitigate the dangers posed by lawsuits, all of the “churches” in the Scientology hierarchy were set up to be legally separate. Before beginning any service sold by Scientology, a Scientologist must sign one contract for one service with one church. The legally separate nature of all churches is stated in each of the contracts Scientologists must sign before receiving services:

 
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3: If there is no “Church of Scientology” then how does a person become a member of the Church of Scientology?

Legally speaking, the Church of Scientology is a “term of convenience” and therefore can have no members. So what do Scientologists actually join and belong to? Scientologists must join the “official Scientology membership association” known as the “International Association of Scientologists.” In order to receive services from any Scientology church, a Scientologist must be a member of the IAS. There may be exceptions for introductory courses, but as a general statement Scientologists must be IAS members to progress up the Bridge.

4: What is the IAS?

According to Scientology’s own website, “The International Association of Scientologists (IAS) is an unincorporated membership organization open to all Scientologists from all nations.”

5: What is an unincorporated membership association?

An unincorporated membership association has no legal existence apart from its members. The IAS cannot legally do anything in and of itself.

6: If the IAS cannot do anything then how does it get anything done?

The IAS has an operating arm called the International Association of Scientologists Administrations (IASA). From the IASA website: “IAS Administrations is a non-profit foundation contracted to provide services to members of the IAS — the International Association of Scientologists.”

7: Scientologists are prevailed upon frequently to donate money to the IAS for various IAS statuses; what are IAS statuses?

IAS statuses are essentially meaningless honors having no real world value. For example, apart from the IAS, it means nothing to be an IAS Patron Meritorious. IAS statuses merely indicate how much money a Scientologist has donated. IAS statuses confer status upon a person in the Church of Scientology and nowhere else.

8: Where do IAS donations actually go?

The IAS offers virtually no financial accountability to Scientologists for how IAS donations are spent. There are occasional PR announcements made by the IAS concerning grants it has made for Scientology Volunteer Ministers or other Scientology-related efforts. However, these efforts appear to be wholly geared towards PR for Scientology and nothing else. (Members were told, for example, that recent Super Bowl ads were paid for with IAS “grants.”) In legal terms, donations to the IAS are “unrestricted,” meaning donations can be spent in any way the IAS deems necessary. Former Scientologists have said that IAS donations effectively constitute David Miscavige’s personal slush fund and that he does not have to account to anyone for how he spends it. The ever increasing emphasis on IAS donations in the past fifteen years tends to support the view that David Miscavige places a very high value on having an unrestricted source of funds at his disposal. Moreover, every dollar donated to the IAS is a dollar for which the Church does not have to deliver any corresponding services such as auditing.

9: The Church of Scientology makes a great fuss about the Sea Org and how the Sea Org is clearing the planet. But what exactly is the Sea Org?

The Sea Org appears to be a legal fiction. As David Miscavige’s attorney Wallace Jefferson has argued in Rathbun v. Miscavige: “Plaintiff asserts that Mr. Miscavige exercised control because he leads the Sea Organization, a religious order within Scientology. But the ‘Sea Org’ is not a corporate entity; it has no physical or legal existence. It is not incorporated or established pursuant to legal formalities. It has no constitution, charter or bylaws, and no formal or informal ecclesiastical, corporate, or other management structure. It has no directors, officers, managing agents, or other executives; no employees, staff members, or volunteers; no income; no disbursements, no bank accounts or other assets; no liabilities; no stationery; no office, home, address, or telephone number. It does not create or maintain any financial, personnel, or other records. It can neither give nor receive orders because it has no one to either give or receive them or to carry them out. It cannot sue or be sued.”

10: If the Sea Org does not have employees, staff members, or volunteers, and does not exist in any meaningful way, then why does the Church of Scientology International have the Sea Org?

The Church of Scientology needs a labor pool even though the Church does not want the liabilities of employees, paying minimum wage, overtime, or offering other worker protections or benefits. Therefore, the Church of Scientology created a “religious order” and named it the Sea Org. In America and other Western countries, religious workers are exempt from minimum wage, overtime, and other worker protections that employees receive. In the scenario presented by the Church, then, members of the fundamentally non-existent Sea Org religious order sign billion-year contracts as a pledge of their devotion to L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. Thereafter, these Sea Org members are assigned to individual churches and sign five year staff contracts. Religious worker status also allows the Church of Scientology to conduct its notorious prison-like Rehabilitation Project Force program under the guise of “spiritual rehabilitation.”

11: Given that the Sea Org does not legally exist, who actually recruits Sea Org members; manages their training and indoctrination into the Sea Org; gives them a meager weekly stipend; administers the RPF; and assigns them jobs in the Church of Scientology?

The Church of Scientology International does.

12: What is the Church of Scientology International?

The Church of Scientology International is the “administrative Scientology church,” also called the “Mother Church” which had been previously assigned to a now defunct entity, the Church of Scientology of California. CSI does not deliver auditing or other Scientology services. Rather, CSI licenses and manages the legally separate Scientology churches (Orgs) beneath it. In return for its services, CSI collects management fees and a percentage of Org income.

13: CSI licenses the churches beneath it. Who licenses CSI?

The Religious Technology Center (RTC) licenses CSI to sell and deliver Scientology goods and services. In exchange, CSI pays RTC licensing fees and a percentage of CSI’s income. RTC’s purported task is to ensure the ecclesiastical purity of the Scientology religion. David Miscavige is the Chairman of the Board of the Religious Technology Center, which is why he is known as “C.O.B.” to the Scientology membership.

14: Who licenses RTC?

This is an interesting question. RTC owns the “Advanced Materials” of Scientology, i.e. the OT levels. The rest of the Scientology’s intellectual property is owned by the Church of Spiritual Technology (CST). CST licenses this intellectual property to RTC who sub-licenses it to CSI.

15: This sounds like a franchise system.

The easiest way to think of the Church of Scientology is as a franchise system, the legal design of which is evasive and constructed to fend off lawsuits, discovery, and court trials. We covered this in our last installment in the Underground Bunker where the Church of Scientology’s system of unconscionable contracts was discussed. Essentially, no one in the Church of Scientology – Sea Org, Staff, or Public – has any power whatsoever. Only David Miscavige has any power and his power is that of a Dictator.

16: Who actually owns the Church of Scientology?

The Church of Scientology is nothing more than a predatory intellectual property-based business engaged in selling and delivering personal psychotherapy services. The Church is therefore owned by the two corporations that own and license the intellectual property and the rights to deliver its personal psychotherapy services: The Church of Spiritual Technology and the Religious Technology Center. Given that CST is, by charter, a passive entity, the effective and active owner can only be RTC. Thus, whoever controls RTC effectively owns and controls the Church of Scientology. At present, this person is David Miscavige.

17: Given that the Church of Scientology is an IP-based personal services business, it logically follows that a management and sales force is needed to administer, sell, deliver, and collect the revenues deriving from this intellectual property. Is this the real purpose of the Sea Org?

In my opinion yes. The “Church of Scientology” is fundamentally a predatory business that does not want the financial liabilities associated with employees. Said another way, the Church of Scientology is designed to extract the maximum amount of money from its client base while reducing its cost of operations to the bare minimum. From this perspective, the IAS is far more lucrative than operating the Sea Org to deliver personal services. Based upon this assessment, it is easy to see why the Church of Scientology’s main business these days is focused in the pure sophistry of selling IAS statuses.

18: Given that selling IAS statuses is so central to the Church of Scientology, why does the Church bother with the expense of staffing and maintaining its existing Orgs and purchasing and renovating new Orgs?

The answer is multifaceted: The IRS does not allow 501(c)(3) tax exempt organizations to endlessly hoard wealth. The IRS instead requires tax exempt groups to spend a portion of monies collected for the public benefit. Scientology must spend some of its wealth and real estate – in the form or “new Ideal Orgs” — is one of the few things the Church can easily justify to the IRS as being a public benefit.

New Ideal Orgs serve to create the appearance to Scientologists that their Church is expanding and growing. Actually, the Church is contracting and losing membership. Nevertheless, because the Church must spend some its cash hoard and the interest it generates, Scientology will, predictively, continue to purchase and open buildings — although at a reduced pace as we are seeing. IAS donations act to offset any financial losses associated with purchasing empty and financially non-performing Orgs. In the long run, the Church of Scientology will continue to accumulate a vast real estate portfolio as a function of its tax exemption.

Referring back to Scientology as a franchise system, the Orgs are the only RTC-authorized locations where Scientology auditing services may be delivered. This is really no different than saying that Goodyear tires may only be purchased and mounted at authorized Goodyear dealers by Goodyear trained service technicians.

Orgs are a place where a member of an unincorporated membership organization called the IAS meets a member of a non-existent Sea Org to receive auditing. The money moves through the Org and uplines to CSI, RTC, and CST. The poor Sea Org members get virtually nothing.

If the Church of Scientology began closing Orgs it could cause a calamitous “run on the bank” in which Scientologists lined up by the thousands for refunds in fear that Scientology was going out of business. The purchase of Orgs creates a confidence factor that Scientology is not going out of business.

19: How do you see the Church of Scientology in 2015?

The Church of Scientology has become about accumulating MEST (physical property) while substituting IAS statuses for any claimed form of spiritual enlightenment. Indeed, it seems any pretense to spiritual enlightenment in Scientology has gone out the window in favor of celebrating IAS statuses and raising money endlessly for buildings.

20: Do you have one of your charts?

Intended to be read from bottom to top, the chart below is the latest attempt in my series of wall charts that attempt to explain the Church of Scientology.

 
— Jeffrey Augustine

 
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Laura DeCrescenzo and Scientology’s psych

We told you more than a year ago that the Church of Scientology was so desperate to deal with the lawsuit of Laura DeCrescenzo, it was even willing to turn to the psychs for help.

Scientology loathes psychiatry, but in an ironic twist, it asked the former Sea Org member to submit to a psychiatric examination as her trial date of December 7 nears. Laura is suing after her harrowing experience in the Sea Org, including the abortion she says she was forced to endure at 17 because children are not allowed in the SO. (For a full rundown on the amazing material she pried out of Scientology after the US Supreme Court refused the church’s request to keep that material secret, see our earlier story.)

Today, in LA Superior Court, Judge Rolf M. Treu will hear arguments and decide the ground rules for a psychiatric examination, but earlier this week he issued a temporary ruling that gave Scientology what it wanted — no restrictions on what an examiner, chosen by Scientology, could ask.

We’re told that Laura isn’t worried about the exam. In fact, her team was going to request a psychiatric exam anyway, and is only arguing for slightly different terms so that the same old questions she’s been asked in deposition countless times don’t become the focus again. We’ll let you know if her attorneys can convince the judge to address those concerns today.

The real action, however, begins in December. And after five years of preliminaries, it finally seems to be getting near.

 
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BOOK NOTES

 
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NEW: Check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour.

We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely, so we’re posting them at the Underground Bunker. We’ve created a dedicated page for them, and we hope you go through them all, then come back here and tell us your thoughts!

Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly. Isn’t technology cool.

 
Our appearances…

June 11: New York City (with Paulette Cooper) We’re keeping the venue on the down-low at this point. If you’re interested in coming to this unique event — Paulette in New York talking about Scientology where her story began — drop us a line so we get an idea how many are coming.

June 20: Chicago (with Christian Stolte) The Annoyance Theater, 5pm: This event is SOLD OUT.

June 22: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper) Toronto Public Library, 40 Orchard View Blvd, 7:30 pm, sponsored by the Centre for Inquiry-Canada
June 23: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper) The “Getting Clear” conference

June 28: Clearwater, Florida (with Paulette Cooper) Clearwater Public Library, 2 pm

July 12: Washington DC, Center for Inquiry (with Paulette Cooper)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on May 29, 2015 at 07:50

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SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

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  • GuidedByMe

    This is way off topic, but I was curious what other Bunkerites thoughts are about this: I’ve never been in the church, although my entire family was, some in the Sea Org, and now they are all out. Except one family member is still in, gets auditing etc. but not in the Sea Org. In case the OSA Nazi Bots are taking notes for their Dwarf Fuhrer, I’ll refer to my family member with the gender neutral name of Chris so he/she doesn’t get any flack from his/her church. Anyway, I finally let Chris know my absolute disdain for the church and suggested Chris look into all the evils about the church. I know Chris told his/her auditor about my disdain for the church and all the evils I know first hand they have done. I’m sure the OSA Nazi Bots have a file on me and I am most likely labeled an SP which I take as an extreme compliment by the way! To me, an SP is a “Bridge to Total Freedom Fighter.” Months later I was waiting for the disconnection to occur and it didn’t happen. I still see Chris all the time.

    So is the church changing their policies because of all the negative publicity to do damage control by not enforcing disconnection? Or is it because Chris isn’t in the Sea Org so they can’t tell Chris to disconnect from me? Or does any one think they told Chris to disconnect from me but Chris just told them to fuck off? Any thoughts/insights would be appreciated. Thanks!

    • MaxSpaceman

      disconnection is for all Scilons, public or otherwise.

      because of that, the only option left is Chris is on a covert op. reporting back to their RTC auditor about your nefarious SP activities.

      otherwise, idk.

      • GuidedByMe

        That makes sense. Thanks for your input. So I take it I need to shred all my trash and keep an eye out for men in black hanging out around my home?

      • flyonthewall

        well, maybe Chris didn’t tell them bc he knew it would cost him money in sec checks etc and/or he doesn’t want to have to disconnect from Guided?

        What was Chris’ response to you Guided?

        • GuidedByMe

          No Chris told me he/she told his/her auditor what I said. Which I have no problem with. Chris told me the usual response that the church doesn’t do all those evil things I said to Chris that the church does. Even though I told Chris the things that I experienced first hand and not from what I read. It pains me so that my family member is so brainwashed by that evil church.

          • flyonthewall

            hmm that is weird.

            ETA – Sorry about your situation. Hopefully they will wake up sooner rather than later

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Another site that may offer helpful info for you: http://www.forum.exscn.net/

  • Jgg2012

    “Scientology loathes psychiatry, but in an ironic twist, it asked the former Sea Org member to submit to a psychiatric examination as her trial date of December 7 nears.” Imagine that you are the psych; you know Scientology says horrible things about you; and you are going to examine a woman suing that organization. I think that you will be very sympathetic to her. And who wouldn’t be sympathetic to an organization which forces women to have abortions.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      they’ll sadly find one at any cost.

      • Sid

        They probably had one in mind before they asked for it in court.

        • ReallyMGM

          You are very likely correct that the COS psychiatrist has been on board for some time. I wouldn’t be surprised to see them trot out someone high profile. {{{hugs}}} for Laura.

        • Jenny Daniels

          Your very likely right about this, Sid.
          During my long ago child custody battle (California), I recognized that if we couldn’t work out an agreement via mandatory mediation that both my scion ex and I would be required to undergo a mandatory psychiatric examination (Costing something like $5000 each. Besides the anti-psych nonsense, I correctly assumed that anyone who had given a minimum of $1 million to Scn would not be able to afford this, but as this was no problem for me other than a monetary one I instructed my attorney to DEMAND that the psychiatrist be of my choosing and only my choosing…(I assumed that the cult probably had a psychiatrist who would gladly support the party line if the price was right.)
          I was right, but we never got that far because crazy ex didn’t dare undergo a psych exam…
          Awarded sole physical and legal custody of afore noted child!)
          Biggest “win”of my life!

          • Sid

            So glad for you (and your child) that you won that one. Their fear of psychiatrists goes almost into the terror level at times.

    • Ben Franklin

      Greta van Susteren sister, Dr. Lise Van Susteren is a psychiatrist in Washington, DC, maybe she will be the one chosen for the job.

      • Lucille Austero

        Bazinga!

      • L. C. Spencer

        Oof. If only we could get Greta to cover the trial!

      • Jenny Daniels

        Of remarkable interest is that any lesser being would have been forced to disconnect from her SP psych sister!

  • 5aga

    man that’s one confusing money-laundering scheme.

  • scottmercer

    I am now offering UBCM status. “Underground Bunker Commentor Meritorious.” Like Scientology, this is relatively meaningless, but unlike Scientology, they are free to anyone that would like to put it on their LinkedIn page or e-mail it to Grant Cardone. And you have to get your own bowling trophy.

  • nottrue

    Alot of great information. Thank you Mr. Augustine.

  • TinyTyrant

    Great info in the 20 questions! Thanks. Don’t know if this has been posted, but the tweets at the bottom are hilarious.

    http://bluenationreview.com/the-church-of-scientology-blocked-me-on-twitter-heres-why/

    • Peggy oh!

      These are so funny!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Must get this guy into the Bunker!

    • Very funny!

  • MaxSpaceman

    That list is great, JA. Very swift and oat tea aight. It’s great.

  • Judith Sylvester

    Jeffrey Augustine and Tony Ortega,
    This is the single most informative post I have ever read here, thank you. It reminded me back to one of Chris Shelton’s early video attempts to explain the convoluted and self defeating nature of Scientology administration. David Miscavige isn’t in the “banality of evil” category. His genius is truly evil.

  • CK

    Just waiting for another Operation Snow White-type situation. History repeats itself.

    • One Human

      As more interest and information come to light, along with more defections, I believe we will find out many more criminal and espionage activities have been ongoing.
      In other words, that type of activity may still be going on today, perhaps not on the same scale, or with equal brazenness.

    • Robert Hammond

      You think Scientology will try to infiltrate and break in to government offices again? Or that the government will raid Scientology offices and send the leaders to prison?

      • CK

        I think as people become more wise to Co$ and more defectors emerge, the org will start trying to do everything in their power to purge and silence them–like Snow White. Not the government, per se, but people who continue to speak out against them.

      • One Human

        I’ll take door #2 Monty!

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      In my opinion the “Snow White Project” never really ended.

      By the time of it’s discovery in 1977 by the FBI due to one of the Scientology operatives defecting and disclosing it to the Federal Government it had been in operation for about three to four years.

      Many other people in the Guardian’s Office were involved, more than were indicted and went to prison.

      The Guardian’s Office used many people to obtain jobs in the IRS bureaucracy and other Federal Government agencies. This in fact was the way in which the Guardian’s Office was able to engineer access to the files they were interested in. One of their agents had obtained a legitimate job within the IRS.

      I think that many Scientology watchers do not appreciate just how deep this strategy of placing agents into political, law enforcement and regulatory agencies has gone. Think about it: If Scientology views itself as the savior of the universe, embattled by forces of evil trying to destroy it, would it abandon a successful spying operation due to some mere legal complications, arrests and prison sentences?

      No. It would merely change it’s operating basis so that it would be more successful at spying and not as likely to be caught. And what was successful was the information being gathered by people who had infiltrated and gotten jobs within those agencies. Deep enough into the employee ranks, and break-ins and other overtly illegal acts are not needed. Remember that Scientology is most paranoid about the things they are doing being done to them. And one of the things they are absolutely paranoid about is people infiltrating THEM.

      It is coming up on forty years since the 1977 raid. I believe that the new Guardian’s Office, OSA, has not spent the last decades sitting on it’s thumbs. It has most assuredly worked hard to plant it’s people into even more Federal and State agencies, working as their employees. I know of people who were dedicated Scientologists who were secretly becoming trained as database administrators, I believe so that they could gain positions in that field in targeted businesses or agencies.

      If you take a 30,000 foot view of the things we know about Scientology’s access to information when it targets people like Paulette Cooper or blowing staff members, it is apparent they have access to law enforcement data files, airline ticket sales data files, Federal Government files and have the ability to divert or quash investigations that concern them.

      When they want to influence some person or agency that is causing them trouble, their go-to strategy is to put someone working for Scientology right next to the person as friend, lover or confidant or in the case of an agency, working inside the group in plain sight. It’s an organizational ‘duper’s delight’ for them at how clever they are and how stupid everyone else is to not have a clue to sheer audacity of the infiltration.

      So no, it would not be a case of the Snow White situation repeating itself. It would be a case of it STILL BEING DONE ALL THESE LONG YEARS.

  • Cece

    Thank you Jeff. Excellent and easy to understand. I agree when you say “Only David Miscavige has any power and his power is that of a Dictator”. The crew of the Sea Org could be compared to being in a room with a very slow toxic gas leak and most of them seem perfectly satisfied with life like that because they only ‘feel’ something is not right but can’t seem to put their finger on what no matter how much they ponder on the ‘Treason to Doubt’ conditions. While in I could never do a condition formula with out bias because some of the parts of the group are invisible and designed to be that way by LRH himself.
    It was not until I personally hit a ‘rock bottom’ in my own life I was able to be open to looking at the what I couldn’t see – the invisible structure above by Jeff. It’s cold and heartless and those at the top know they are doing this to the SO guys in the middle mostly all who signed up to help this civilization.
    I think you have some incorrect data just here: “#10 ….Thereafter, these Sea Org members are assigned to individual churches and sign five year staff contracts.” I never heard of a case of a SO member signing a 5 yr contract with an org nor seen it mentioned prior to this.

  • Robert Hammond

    Reflections on The Sunk Cost Fallacy

    Why do whales continue to give to a sinking ship? In spite of the avalanche of negative publicity about Scientology from South Park, Going Clear, Saturday Night Live, and The Unbreakable Miss Lovely, a few very wealthy people continue to donate big bucks.

    Like John Travolta and Tom Cruise, do you think the “church” holds secrets from their auditing sessions against them?

    Like papal indulgences of old, do they really believe that giving away their fortunes will earn them a higher place in the galactic confederation?

    Is it a combination of wishful thinking and cognitive dissonance?

    I believe that the sunk cost fallacy may have much to do with it. See: http://www.lifehack.org/articles/communication/how-the-sunk-cost-fallacy-makes-you-act-stupid.html

    • sugarplumfairy

      Oh crap! Papal indulgences don’t work?

      • Robert Hammond

        They only work for the Pope.

    • ze moo

      Add sunk costs to the shame of having been taking in a scam, thought stopping run amock, cognitive dissonance and light to moderate hypnosis and you too can have your own church. Lron had 30 years to perfect his scam, he wasn’t a genus, but he stole a lot from some of them.

      • Robert Hammond

        You are so right about that. Scam victims, like child abuse and rape victims often fail to report the crimes against them because of the shame.

        As you well-said, add in hypnotic cult brainwashing techniques and people who think they are saving the world and you have a perfect storm of mind control. HItler, Stalin, Charles Manson, Jim Jones, L Ron Hubbard, and the list of perpetrators goes on and on.

        Good news is that more and more people are waking up. Something can be done about it. Even those who seemed unreachable are coming out into the light. People like the Garcias, Leah Remini, Debbie Cook, Marty Rathbun, Mike Rinder, are just a few of the many who said enough is enough. More will follow. Now is the time.

  • Lucille Austero

    I continue on my mission to get those stupid VM’s to stop touching people.

    https://twitter.com/lucilleaustero2/status/604352016836595712

    • aquaclara

      Your posts are lol worthy. Thank you for sharing them there, and of course here, too.

    • Jimmy3

      Reminds me of what I tell my niece about petting my dog. There are good touches and bad touches. He likes good touches. Gentle. Gentle. That’s right! That is a good touch, sweetie.

      VMs trying to give touch assists? BAD TOUCH. THAT’S A BAD TOUCH!

        • Sid

          He’s arming his photon torpedoes.

        • Elizabeth Lavet

          He is just feeling to make sure there is no copy or copy of a copy. Beware of the copies…

      • ReallyMGM

        That is also what we teach our children starting in their toddler years to do our damned best to protect them from predators when we are not with them. Good Touch vs Bad Touch.

        • Jimmy3

          Yeah, it’s weird tho, because my niece is 39 years old. She’s okay, she just needs a constant reminder to not grab the dog’s fur and to not smack him in the face.

    • Sid

      “I see you’re bleeding profusely from an artery in your leg. Please close your eyes and ‘feel my finger’.”

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        I’m always amazed how JT’s touch assist on Marlon Brando’s hurt leg, is one of the most cos quoted examples of touch-assist’s magical and supernatural efficiency. Yet none of the alleged witnesses had the skeptical wherewithal to notice that applying pressure on a painful/injured area for relative relief is a no-brainer; in fact, it’s a natural instinctive response.

    • Sid

      I posted this before but didn’t clarify that it was a parody. Please note, this is a parody. (F5)

    • Sookie Sookie

      It’s good that you’re doing this (but I think I know why this specific issue is a trigger for you). :-p

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_LEJ6tZI7_k

      • Lucille Austero

        Snort! You found me out!

        • Sookie Sookie

          Understand that I am totally on board with this philosophy!

      • Spackle Motion

        There are more episodes coming out!!!! Yay!!!!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Ah, Lucille. I love how you cut through all the ecclesiastical mumbo jumbo and get right to the heart of the matter.

  • From the Great Xenu! Why didn’t I do that already? department, I’m taking the IRS agreement and wiki-linking the hell out of it!

    It’ll take a while…
    Scientology – IRS draft closing agreement

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      *pulls up a chair*

      • AintMizBahavin

        me toooooo

        • So many levels of ordered lists! Why couldn’t they have just used XML?

  • M from Toronto

    Thank you Jeff, this will be useful for me going forward, trying to explain the scam to others.
    The Godson said this when he finished reading a few minutes ago ‘I get that Miscavage thinks that his scam is beyond the proles and that the DoT won’t do anything. FIFA thought that too.’

    • flyonthewall

      he’s prob right that the Dept of Transportation won’t do anything but hopefully the Dept of Justice will

      • M from Toronto

        That might actually be what Al Capone was thinking when he about T-Men. ;))

  • Mark

    Scientology asking for Laura’s sanity to be tested? That’s pretty rich, considering Shortarse is going have a whole chapter to himself in DSM-6 (refresh with a syringe full of Thorazine at the ready):

    • Mockingbird

      Stolen for a thread ! The ” art department ” at the Bunker makes me look good and is free !

      • Mark

        Pas de quoi! 🙂

        • Mockingbird

          Eh? English please .

          • Mark

            “No problem” or “you’re welcome” roughly speaking.

            • Mockingbird

              Oh, thanks .

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Pass the goose liver.

            • Mockingbird

              Um…thank you ?

    • ReallyMGM

      +1 for Mark

    • flyonthewall
    • Lionel Drinkwater

      In my professional opinion — and I hold three Doctorates from Sequoia’s University — the people who badly need psychiatric evaluation are all inside the Church of Scientology:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=–fHibxSYmg

      • Mymy88

        I have one word… sickening.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/scienowriter/Chairman.Dave.1_zpscewa6g7f.png

    “Peace and prosperity are just around the corner for we in the Church of Scientology,” said Chairman David Miscavige.

    “The forces of global psychiatric suppression are collapsing under the withering onslaught of Scientology’s 4th dynamic planetary salvage campaigns,” Chairman Miscavige assured the 15,000,000 Scientology party delegates gathered in the Great Hall of Exact Data in Clearwater, Florida.

    “All that remains is for each of you to make a fully monumental, epic, and heroic donation to the IAS. Your donations are urgently needed now to mop up the last vestiges of planetary suppression.”

    • Mark

      You wouldn’t be trying to hypnotize us, would you?

    • Sid

      Asked for a comment, American Psychiatric Association President Renée Binder said, “Of course we’ve heard of Scientology. Don’t they have those quiet little reading rooms in towns all over the country. David Miscavige, no, never heard of him, sorry.”

    • flyonthewall

      FLASHBACK!

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Flashback? Quickly! Rush flyonthewall into the Purif!

      • Sid

        Was it a whole track flashback brought on by a BT mocking up a 34 trillion year old drug?

        • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

          Sid, please don’t go “Out R” on this homo sap hater board. Save that stuff for the NOT’s lounge at AO.

          • Sid

            I’m confused. If ‘R’ is Out, the wouldn’t that warrant ‘more communication? And doesn’t Ron say “what turns it on turns it off”? So Fly should do more drugs.

            • flyonthewall

              Thank you! Could you explain that at my next NA meeting?

            • Sid

              I will bring a diagram.

            • Lionel Drinkwater

              Sid, as a former Int Ext CO CONT Dir Qual FSO-OOT M9’d with a video pass by RTC, let me step in here and help ypu clear up your M/U’s. You’re confused between listing and nulling.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9reLONOJ7U

            • Sid

              He overdid the pinks a little there I think.

            • flyonthewall

              ohh this is a great one! I accidentally stumbled upon it once and haven’t seen it forever.

            • Anonymous

              Actually the rant is about the difference between listing and assessing…but why quibble.

              Nonsense is nonsense.

              Also, I detect either amphetamines or cocaine (and maybe both) in Hubbard’s voice on that tape.

              Lol.

            • Lionel Drinkwater

              Actually the rant is about the difference between listing and assessing…but why quibble…nonsense is nonsense.

              Well I was booted off posted for misduplication. I confused engrams with entities, listing and assessing, and often ignored my post for hours at a time to make personal phone calls to those expensive 1-900 psychic hotlines on the Org’s dime.

            • Alphonso de Barbo

              …ooooookaaaaaaay…..

          • Sid

            I’m trying to figure out if you were serious about this or not.

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Sid, Scientology is a deadly serious activity and so yes we in RTC were being deadly serious. We do not want you exposing upper level materials on this board and thereby trigger a fatal outbreak of pneumonia that kills everyone.

              Now, on the other hand, if you have destroyed planets and civilizations on the wholetrack then this would explain your attempt to destroy the entire internet by posting upper level materials.

              Concerned OT’s will be addressing this matter in a vital upcoming summit in the Dallas Org.

              http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/scienowriter/CrazyTown.jpg

            • Sid

              Okay, got it. I’ll be heading down to the AOLA lounge tomorrow and will limit my BT stories to there. Boy I’ve got some doozies.

              I haven’t destroyed planets and civilizations on the wholetrack but I’m planning on splattering some enemies in Nintento Splatoon. Does that count?

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Nintendo is a Psych company so have at it and lay waste to entire populations.

              BTW, COB has never managed to win Mario Go Kart. Could you come by the Base to coach him?

            • Sid

              I’m on my way. Should I use the secret entrance again?

            • lynn

              my kid made me watch a demo of that game yesterday. Did you get to play the testing other night?

            • Sid

              No lynn. I’ll have to get over to the grandkids for that.

            • Sid

              Government Mind Control is something Scientology fights vigorously against. They want to be the only ones who practice it.

            • April

              … “destroy the entire internet by posting upper level materials.”

              bwahahahahahahaa

            • Mockingbird

              Tin foil hat optional ?

            • Anonymous

              That is rich indeed.

              One of the provision of the (still secret) Scientology closing agreement with the IRS was apparently that the church was to no longer engage in anti-tax, anti-IRS and anti US government ideological propaganda.

              This event / advert might imply that wee Davey is spinning up the engines on the anti-government dead agent stuff once again, possibly in front of his upcoming indictment.

              Heh.

              EDIT to add: Is this real…or is it a joke? Us Poe’s want to know.

            • J. Swift

              It is real.

            • lynn

              talk about some strange shit….check out the wiki page for the dr. in this flyer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colin_A._Ross

        • flyonthewall

          yes but unfortunately it was 34 trillion yr old brown acid. F5

        • Mockingbird

          34 million old kids’ aspirin .Damn that shit is strong .

    • Mockingbird

      How come everyone who has miracles, enlightenment or a pipeline to God is a broke ass motherfucker who needs all my money? With their magic or all powerful God why is finance the one area the prophets and miracle workers and “sources” of “technology” always fall short in ? The mysteries of magic and the divine .Bullshit er mysteries , yeah mysteries .

      • Mymy88

        How come if there is a magic or all powerful god, he allows babies to be raped and animals to be tortured? I just explained to you why I don’t believe in god. See how easy that was? I don’t know why some people are always trying to talk me out of my stance. Give it up. They never ever will be able to do that.

        • Mockingbird

          Well, I cannot predict the future , but I think the probability of me personally trying to ever persuade you that a God or gods exist is very , very close to zero.

          I approach it as a claim .I have not seen proof that establishes such a claim . I think I would need immense, overwhelming evidence for that claim .I do not even frankly see slight evidence .

          Also, for the claim of someone absolutely proving there is no God with complete certainty , I similarly do not see adequate , or even slight proof .

          It is quite possible that humans lack the capacity to prove, disprove or even understand such matters adequately .

          Well, we can try to be nice to each other anyway .I do not need a big guy constantly spying on me to know I prefer to treat people decently .I have hurt them or been mean and felt ashamed and like it was wrong .Why can’t that be good enough ?

          I do not attack religion, but I damned sure don’t want it rammed down my throat .

          • Mymy88

            My view comes from a purely emotional level and I find it impossible to understand why anybody would think anything different. So basically, I don’t think about it and don’t feel a need to think about it. To me it’s simple, very very simple. If I had a child, I would never, NEVER allow something horrible to happen to them, if it was at all within my power. I would not allow my child to be abused, or raped or tortured, etc. That’s it. What else can I say?

            I’m sorry I have not found that video yet. I thought of a couple of people that I can ask about it, and maybe they can help me. .

            • Mockingbird

              No worries. If it comes great.

              I think your view is very understandable.

              I try to accept the belief that a small percent of people have no conscience or compassion.They are said to exist and be disordered by psychology – in some models.

              If this is true , then in life people exist on a spectrum of good and evil like shades of gray with a lot in the middle, perhaps a few light gray , no pure white and a small few of pure black .I see Hubbard as ebon .

              If a God was likewise , then that would account for the inexplicable and undesirable elements in life . I do not go with that myself but marvel at the fact that so few even consider this perspective.

            • Mymy88

              Exactly. I think the same sort of things, but the problem is, sometimes I get a little obsessed with thinking things like… oh my god! what if when we die we go somewhere that isn’t so great… what if it’s not all that different from the way it is here and now… what if it’s worse… what if it’s terrible… or maybe we do go to a paradise…what if… what if… what if?

              Oh no! I’m doing again and it’s your fault LOL!

            • Mockingbird

              Hey take it easy . Try these on for size ; see if they bring you comfort .

              “You always own the option of having no opinion. There is never any need
              to get worked up or to trouble your soul about things you can’t control.
              These things are not asking to be judged by you. Leave them alone.”


              Marcus Aurelius,

              Meditations

              “Live a good life. If there are gods and they are just, then they will
              not care how devout you have been, but will welcome you based on the
              virtues you have lived by. If there are gods, but unjust, then you
              should not want to worship them. If there are no gods, then you will be
              gone, but will have lived a noble life that will live on in the memories
              of your loved ones.”


              Marcus Aurelius

              “It is in your own power to maintain the beauty of your soul, or to be a decent human being.”


              Marcus Aurelius,

              Meditations

            • Mymy88

              Excellent advise. I especially like the first one 🙂

            • Mockingbird

              Cool, I saw the meditations and feel there is no wondrous enlightenment or miracles there, but sublime writing .It can influence an audience to feel good.

              I feel Hubbard plagiarized from it , but can separate Hubbard’s twisted con from Aurelius’s version.
              You might like it .

            • Mymy88

              im not surprised if tubbard got his greasy fat little fingers on it.

            • Mockingbird

              Yucky description. Lots of people enjoy the Meditations .In fairness they are not slanted by Aurelius as they were by Hubbard .But they are sublime writing – they persuade emotionally and many inspire contentment , but if you look at Aurelius’s life he enjoyed thinking them in his mind and not following them in reality .

              Take them with a skeptical eye if at all .

            • Mockingbird

              Your description makes me think of Hubbard as a demented Benny Hill ! Lol !

            • Mymy88
            • Mockingbird

              The song is Yakety Sax , the Benny Hill theme song .

              The beloved Sir ( not a real title ) Benny Hill is one of England’s finest sons .I recommend all of his work .

              I remember one night in about 1983 at about 12 years old catching a Benny Hill rerun at 11;30 PM and catching a two second clip of a topless woman in a window the American censors had missed .
              I watched avidly for decades hoping to see more .Alas , it was not to be .I did grow to love Benny and his hijinks.

            • Mymy88

              Ha ha yeah. Me and my family and some friends I had really loved watching that show back in the 70’s lol. So silly but so funny.

            • Mockingbird

              Oh yeah , Benny Hill and his crew were hilarious . He was sleazy , stupid and goofy . Like Hubbard if he was merely mischievous instead of malicious.

            • Mockingbird

              My beloved Sir Benny Hill. A comedy genius .

            • Mockingbird
        • Mockingbird

          Oh , I did not address the rarely made explanation for your question .If there was an all knowing and all powerful God who could stop or change anything but allowed the evil and suffering we see it could be for a simple reason .In an X- Men comic Sabretooth ( a psychopathic serial killer/rapist) once said ” Take a look around , if there is a God he’s like me ” .Meaning a God who callously allows or even causes our plight is like Sabretooth- without compassion utterly .Now I do not have faith myself .But some others do.

          Hubbard gave a comparable description in the famous “Skipper” letter if I remember correctly .

    • Anonymous

      I don’t have the time (or interest) to shoop in DMSMH in place of every Little Red Book in the photo below…but I trust you get the idea.

    • Jenny Daniels

      So pleased they beat everyone to death over and over again so that they can be “superliterate”…
      Apparently, no one ever explained to Davey (or rather to the Shermanitor) that you use “us” when it’s the object of a preposition. Then again…perhaps there is some confusion about the word and concept involved in the phrase,”object of a preposition?”

  • lynn

    Interesting reading. Excerpt from:

    Believe What You Like

    What happened between the Scientologists and the National Association for Mental Health
    By C.H.Rolph

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/rolph/

    “One need go no further than what the Anderson Report said in referring to
    what it called the scientologists’ ‘brain-washing manual’ (the authorship
    of which the scientologists have specifically repudiated – they say it was
    published by them merely in order ‘to reveal the true and dangerous nature
    of communist brain-washing techniques’). Mr Anderson felt, during
    the course of his enquiry, that ‘the general attitude of the scientology
    interests, while appearing to be helpful and informative, tended sometimes
    to cloud and confuse issues by too great attention to non-essentials and
    extremely lengthy expositions of certain aspects of scientology’. And he
    thought all this was ‘really designed … to so exhaust the patience of
    the Board’ (i.e. of Mr Anderson) ‘or so overwhelm it with minute detail
    that it would be persuaded against prolonging the Inquiry until the
    conclusion of all relevant evidence. Such a devious plan may well have
    been inspired by the Brain-Washing Manual … which
    scientology appears to have followed in other respects, for that manual
    gives directions as to ‘conduct under fire’, and directs that one ‘must
    have to hand innumerable documents which assert enormously encouraging
    figures … Not one of these cases need be real, but they should be
    well-documented and printed in such a fashion as to form excellent court
    evidence. The manual further directs’ (Mr Anderson went on) ‘that in order
    to defend … a great complexity should be made of psychiatric,
    psychoanalytical and psychological technology. Any hearing should be
    burdened by terminology too difficult to be transcribed easily.’ The
    manual (which, be it remembered, is said to be a ‘communist’ manual,
    spurned as such by the scientologists) further directs that

    various types of insanity should be characterised by difficult terms. The
    actual state should be made obscure, but by this verbiage it can be built
    into the Court or investigating mind that a scientific approach exists and
    that it is too complex for him to understand. It is not to be imagined
    that a judge or a committee of investigation should enquire too deeply
    into the subject of insanity since they, themselves, part of the
    indoctrinated masses, are already intimidated.””

  • cdubb

    So it’s like one’s ability to move up the bridge to total enslavement, at least in the upper oh-tee levels, is based somewhat on one’s status in the international association of scientologists. Where status = shoveling obscenely large amounts of money into downstat dave’s bank account. Very interesting. These whales looking for super powers then find NOTHING, space cooties that is, but have invested so much money it’s embarassing to admit they’ve been duped. Meanwhile the only route ordinary suckers have to obtain oh-tee levels is to … to … well maybe they can’t. Or they can join the space-cadet org and do their levels in about 75 life times.

  • Miss Tia

    Thought of some more haiku tweets re: scis wanting Laura to have a psych exam….

    Scis wanting a psych
    Like a Jehovah’s Witness
    Wanting transfused blood
    #haiku #scientology #hypocrisy

    No mental illness
    Scis don’t believe in it
    Yet want psych eval? o_O
    #haiku #scientology #MentalIllnessDOESexist

    What’s a sci psych like?
    Scis think all are evil and
    caused the Holocaust
    #haiku #scientology

    Will scis take their psych
    Through the Industry of Death
    Attempt to convert?
    #haiku #scientology #MindBoggles

    A psych who scis find
    Willing to work with them has
    No integrity
    #haiku #scientology #psychiatrists

    Greed before honor
    How much is selling out worth?
    Should lose their license
    #haiku #scientology #MyOpinion

    • Peggy oh!

      Let’s all let the APA know! 🙂

    • Mockingbird

      Why have psychs when you have the introspection rundown aka the Lisa McPherson murder .

      • Miss Tia

        and tom cruise is an expert on psychiatry…is he gonna play the part of a psych?

        • Mockingbird

          Hopefully he can get the introspection rundown and do the truth rundown on the RPF .For the authentic Scientology experience.

          • Miss Tia

            he really needs to quit acting and join the sea org…..get sent to the rpf rpf….or ‘the hole’ part 2 (you know there’s gotta be another one created somewhere, they weren’t released into a dorm or ‘nice’ place!)……

            • Mockingbird

              Yeah, he can see how the elite Sea Org slaves live .

            • Miss Tia

              he really needs to be treated like everyone else…..i bet he wouldn’t like it one bit! he couldn’t handle the truth!

            • Mockingbird

              No way could he take it .

            • Miss Tia

              but he said acting is harder than being a soldier! the worst thing for him—mentally—would be if he couldn’t have his shoe lifts!

            • Mockingbird

              He said that ? How delusional , I think acting is quite easy .

            • Miss Tia

              yeah, he said that in an interview last year…..said he worked harder as an actor than the troops!!! that was just beyond glib! and you’re correct, also delusional!

  • flyonthewall

    Slightly OT but also slightly amusing – I just got my copy of a 1968 edition of Have You Lived Before This Life, I confess that I do love those late 60’s early 70’s covers, just something…idk…restimulative about them. Anyhoo, the seller is “Otis The Sci-Fi Guy Books”. I told you it was slightly amusing. F5

    • Observer

      What a bizarre illustration. Maybe Ron was feeling nostalgic for his black magic days with Parsons.

      • flyonthewall

        I’m sayin’! I never saw it b4 and had to snatch it up. So sinister, which is fitting for the content from what I’ve read about it

    • Libertylover

      Weird cover! This one is grim reaper like too. F5

      • flyonthewall

        from what I’ve read about it, it’s filled with people reliving their deaths and in gory detail. Lots of eye-gouging, head smashing etc. Sick people. Might be why the covers have a death theme?

        • Libertylover

          I read about it recently in Paulette Cooper’s original book online. Sounds like a real mind fucker.

        • Anonymous

          You would be surprised how many times “incidents” from that book (and several other Hubbard books with “case histories”) wind up being “originated” in slightly altered version by PC’s “in session.”

          Among the many frauds in Scientology is the idea that no one is to ever “evaluate” for a PC, but in fact Hubbard did it constantly with his writings and taped lectures. The OT levels, especially after OT III, are one gigantic evaluation where everyone is essentially forced to run Hubbard’s “case.”

          • flyonthewall

            Yeah I’ve heard that many times. What a sick joke the whole thing is

      • Mymy88

        Ack! Ack! Ack!

    • coonellie

      Before seeing the author I thought you’d posted a Jack Chick tract cover (ick!)

    • PRenaud

      I mean… why did hubbard always picture previous lives as dark and evil, cause he was a freaking screwball!! so why do people not see what I see that’s right there in my face, cause they are mind controlled in being hubbard’s screwball trainees, thankfully some break out of the spell.

    • Mockingbird

      That book is very OT ! It is all about OT recall of past lives !

  • Mymy88

    — OFF TOPIC —

    Where’s Tonto? I have something for him. (Cherokee Nation-Paul Revere and The Raiders )

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ojRQ15My7s&index=31&list=RDUvJ78hYI6wk

    • SarahDB

      Boy Mymy88, haven’t heard this song in a looooong time.

    • Frank Lee

      Another song about Tonto (at 1:12)
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hpM8FjO4Vko

      • Mymy88

        1st time I’ve heard it, so I guess the part about Toto telling the white man to kiss his ass is the context to this thread, but all I could think of was “What did Julia Roberts see in him? What? What did Julia Roberts see in him? What? What? What did Julia…

        • Frank Lee

          I always wondered that too! Lyle Lovett always reminded me of Beaker!

          • Mymy88

            OMG Laughing out loud for sure!

        • Missionary Kid

          Lyle is talented, and he’s got a self depreciating sense of humor. Yes, he looks a bit odd, but they picked each other for a while.

    • flyonthewall

      I heard he was “resettled” in some shit hole reservation in Oklahoma until they found oil on it so he was “resettled” again in a gas station bathroom in Arizona. I’ll tell him you said hi next time I see him

      • flyonthewall

        He says thanks for the song and to give you this. F5

        • Mockingbird

          Nice one , the genocide of native peoples is grossly underreported and sadly continues to this day.

          • Frank Lee

            The American Indians of North Texas. (Won’t let me post image.) Empire of the Summer Moon.

          • Mymy88

            Oh, you are addressing flyonthewall. Good, because I’m done with this thread.

        • Mymy88

          ooo that was harsh. You can tell him I don’t want his sentiment or anyone else’s. I’ve reached a stage in my life where I don’t give a flying F about anything. So there is no need to try to persuade me one way or the other. I don’t give a F about either one, or anything else. Life has never been so thrilling since I took on this attitude.

          (footnote: I don’t give a F what anybody thinks about what I just said, either. Wow, I really need to stop wearing my heart on my sleeve. Another footnote: I may me joking or I may not be joking.)

          • flyonthewall

            Wow, you’re just all over the place huh? Ok then!

            • Mymy88

              No, I misunderstood one of the posts and I thought someone was bitching but they were not. So I guess I’ll edit it. Sorry.

            • flyonthewall

              haha, that’s funny. I had no idea what you were talking about but it had me cracking up

            • Mymy88

              i ought not be on the comp late at night. ugh!

      • Mymy88

        LOL!

  • AintMizBahavin

    waving hello to all stopped by to get some early laughs and reading shall return later for more… xo

  • Frank Lee

    Ha ha ha! The TV show Family Feud just asked their contestants to name things they know about Tom Cruise. There of the answers were: Scientologist – Kooky – Know-it-All. Steve Harvey looked mortified and clearly afraid!

  • nottrue

    Julie use a different picture ……..

    • One Human

      Sadly, the trap is still in operation.

    • flyonthewall

      aww, sorry Julie I just got done organizing my potato heads like last wk. I’ll keep you in mind though

      • lynn

        hahahahaha!!…funniest thing I’ve read for some time.

        • flyonthewall

          i went to clown college

      • Mymy88

        LOL!

    • Sookie Sookie

      “…clean your house, office or construction site.”

      That’s genius. But I bet she’d get even more responses if she expanded to things like “will clean abbatoirs, morgues, or biohazard labs.”

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Or I’ll do anything to study the tech.

      • Sookie Sookie

        Fancy construction site manager/potato head collector looking for an assistant: “She seems perfect. But all those exclamation points… I just can’t take her seriously. Keep looking.”

    • Mockingbird

      Obviously Mr Potato Head and magazine aficionados will have a bidding war for her services .I must update my resume .If I put my son’s transformers and Gundam collection on a photo will it make me a highly sought after recruit ?

      • flyonthewall

        What yr are the Transformers from? You have the boxes and accessories still? Plz send pix

        • Mockingbird

          Ha ha ! He has tons of toys from decades ! Will you pay millions for my “skills” ?

          • flyonthewall

            skillz shmills, I want those vintage toys!

            • Mockingbird

              Oh , isn’t this how all job applications go !?

            • flyonthewall

              welcome to america buddy

            • Mockingbird

              WOW !

    • Mockingbird

      Pure J & D fodder .The Scientologists are so out of touch with reality.

    • Sookie Sookie

      My name is Julie and I do need help!

      Ugh – I should have paused before I joked. IDK, but re-reading makes all the funny go out of it for me. (It doesn’t lessen the fascination/horror/curiosity though.)

      • flyonthewall

        F5

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Cool

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I’d prepare her for the RPF by having her clean my bathrooms with an electric toothbrush. Then I’d have her stay up for five nights charting the movements my dog’s make when they sleep. Then I’d invite some SP’s over for dinner and have her serve us while we belittle her,”religion” Then its time to invite over a Deprogrammer and get her a one way ticket.”You will never go to LA or Clearwater again. Julie.” Your family misses you…” When I snap my fingers..

    • Sid

      Hello My name is Julie. Never mind the job stuff. My picture was just seen on Tony Ortega’s blog so all my training money was transfered to auditing. I’ll be using it all up this week in sec-checks and then heading home.

    • Observer

      Julie gives me a sad.

      • Sid

        Yes, it is a bit sad. She probably just blew her child’s college fund to get there.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Child,shes not draggin’ that around if she had one. She’s on a bridge to nowhere.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Nah! Julie sunshine and lollipops!

    • lynn

      Bet she won’t have her “own car” very much longer.

      • ReallyMGM

        And no time to work anyway.

      • Sookie Sookie

        Good call.

    • Lionel Drinkwater

      Julie is Sea Org bait. My predict: Julie is in the Sea Org within ten weeks working as a salesperson for Bridge or assigned to the new testing center. You read it here first.

      • flyonthewall

        🙁

    • Mymy88

      Oh my god! Are those sex toys? Okay, I know they’re not, but it looks to me she is posing in a suggestive manner. If she is, she needs to put the toys away. It’s kind of weird looking.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Gretta Van Clam is worth 35 billion but gve her sister 2,400.00 for her democratic political campaign. And other reasons she sucks.
    http://gawker.com/5272012/what-does-greta-van-susterens-psychiatrist-sister-think-of-scientology

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Million

    • ReallyMGM

      That number quite possibly was the maximum amount an individual could contribute to a campaign that year. it changes due to inflation; right now the max amount is 2,700.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Me Bad. But she still is a psyche she pals around with. Bad Clam!

        • ReallyMGM

          Yeah, I know. It is supposed to level the playing field. (Yeah right!)

        • Todd Tomorrow

          We called Lise to ask her about Greta’s views. “These are private
          matters,” she said. “I don’t ever discuss them. The reality is, I don’t
          know anything about Scientology’s current campaigns. I know that in the
          past there were a few people who were very vocal about psychiatry, but I
          don’t know enough to reasonably comment.” WTF? Your head has been buried, where?

          • L. C. Spencer

            Spoken like a wog who is very clear… on what disconnection is.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I was disappointed as she is one smart Wog
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lise_Van_Susteren
              I can’t wait until someone asks me a question. “These are private maters. I don’t ever discuss them” This quote tells me she knows that they are all bat shit crazy otherwise why would it be a private matter?
              .

            • Todd Tomorrow

              And all about cult behavior.

          • Mymy88

            I. now. need. to. bang. my. head. against. a. wall. repeatedly.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***
    Sherbet and the Boston gang did it again, many ads have been removed leaving 6X 2500 years books, 3 Financial stress and 4 others, why aren’t they banned outright and then we can concentrate on somebody else!
    Sacramento did well. keep on the pressure! There are now only 13 live ads left in Boston!

    Let’s pick our next target, who will it be? Sac, SFBay, LA, Tampa, NY ? Albuquerque, Cincinnati, maybe St Louis, again LOCAL complaint is way more effective.
    SpamTrack have been updated today 29th May at 4:30pm est : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2536816

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    • Redx Doc

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    • Eileen

      I just went through the Boston lis, 3-4 more ads have been taken down. I think this is a new low for Boston! JJ will probably start spamming tonight.

  • Jimmy3

    If you rely on context, you’re doing it wrong.
    http://youtu.be/v7TUKMmYdZ8

    • Sookie Sookie

      I’m just wondering if you’ll be willing to relinquish the Cat Daddy mantle once he returns. In the mean time, I’m enjoying the higher quality of context-less videos!

      • flyonthewall

        I may have competition in the Sci Lego arena! Idk if they’d want me to say anything so I’ll keep it vague but apparently someone has something in the works

        • Sookie Sookie

          Don’t worry – this is a big Bunker, and you’re the original Fly.

          • flyonthewall

            *hug* So excited and nervous!

            • Sookie Sookie

              f5

      • Jimmy3

        I go back and forth between good and bad music, in honor of Cat Daddy. I started out playing only terrible music, but someone told me to stop. So once he returns, I’ll just let him play all the bad music.

        I hope this resolves your inquiry. Here are ASCII characters that resemble the shape of a heart: <3

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        White sun: burns exceptionally bright, dies young.

        It’s an obscure thetan galactic thing, I guess; Hubbard missed it in his travels.

        • Sookie Sookie

          ?
          I’m missing it now, but it’s been a long week and my brain might be slow tonight.

          • HillieOnTheBeach

            “Yes”. *passes blunt*

            • Sookie Sookie

              Then it’s all good. *relaxes*

            • HillieOnTheBeach

              May be a questionable aspect of obscure posts of mine, but I was making an analogy between Hendrix and white suns, versus othersignificant cosmilogical types (ie blue, yellow and red) and the fact that Hubbard’s infinte wise and universal research missed it all.

            • Sookie Sookie

              No, I get you now — I just thought you were talking about CD or J3.

              The thought of Hubbard trying to grok Hendrix and then make up a relevant line to add to his crap-factory of ideas makes me grimace.

  • ze moo

    Blatter reelected to pres of FiFA. How much did it cost him?

  • beauty for ashes

    When I read
    “Intended to be read from bottom to top, the chart below is the latest attempt in my series of wall charts that attempt to explain the Church of Scientology.”
    My brain imagined Jeffrey’s graphic wall charts aggressively competing for space with all of Karen’s peaceful bucolic paintings.
    I can’t imagine once you’ve started trying to explain scientology in a simplistic wall chart, that you’d ever be able to stop because of the myriad of disparate endings you could have. Soon you’d attaching bits of string linking to other charts. Maybe we should keep an eye on him. 🙂

    • A bird in the chimney

      That’s a hilarious mental picture and juxtaposition. 😀

      • beauty for ashes

        Zactly!

    • Sookie Sookie

      It’s a “choose your own (terrible) adventure” story.

      • beauty for ashes

        I hated the feeling I got when I chose the wrong sucky ending!

        • Mockingbird

          RPF or R2-45 or sued to death or SP declared or chain locker or forced abortion or driven to murder/suicide or bankrupt and disconnected or severe CPTSD or missing or batshit crazy or overboarded or …this is Scientology – the only game in the universe where everyone wins – or should that be loses ?

          • EnthralledObserver

            You left out the worst ending – STILL IN! *shudders*

            • Mockingbird

              Too gruesome to contemplate.

      • Mockingbird

        Choose your own delusion while being covertly enslaved .The delusion is a misdirection from the enslaving .

        • beauty for ashes

          Hey Mockingbird, maybe you would know. I seem to remember reading an article about neurobiology. I said something about your mind releasing a chemical when you think you are “right.” Its like our own little reinforcement signal. I always wonder about whether this happens in past life transgressions or “recovered memories.” Know anything about that? I just thought its a fascinating idea.

          • Mockingbird

            I may follow that to a degree .I have barely a high school level education .I remember reading a claim ( I obviously cannot verify , deny or properly give an expert opinion on) that stated a hypothesis that some scientist proposed that said we crave two chemicals in the brain and all happiness involves the release of at least one . I think I remember an article that said listening to or remembering stories can trigger the release of one .

            It explained an idea on how remembering things that triggered the release in the past may retrigger it later .

            It obviously carries significance regarding nostalgia , and also there is a pleasant feeling often when one feels correct . I would say it can be easily solved by googling happiness and starting with the chemical names .

          • Kay

            beauty for ashes: google dopamine…it’s the “pleasure” chemical released by your brain.

    • chukicita

      Long ago, a critic on a.r.s. remarked that it’s hard to explain Scientology without several hours and some graphs and charts.

      Sadly, I think that’s part of the reason it’s been able to hold on for so long.

  • LordXenuCruise

    Remember that ridiculous video set to ‘I Love Rock n Roll” She should have sued them. “I love my ideal org,so come take the time and write a check” Blech. As Stan said said on South Park “It is just a global scam”

    • flyonthewall

      idk, I think the Ideal Org song is kinda catchy. It has a good beat, you can dance to it

      • April

        Yeah, but this ain’t American Bandstand. 😛

  • nottrue
  • ReallyMGM

    Remember to click the heart at the top left side of comments!

    • aegerprimo

      I do, everyday.

      • ReallyMGM

        I sometimes forget unless someone posts a reminder. Me bad, but trying.

  • nottrue

    Oh what a fun game…

    • Beth

      Yes I would like to give a million dollars and enjoy the benefit of this mystery donor

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      We are really and truly in the final weeks of fundraising for the new Ideal Org of the Valley.

      Really, really, REEEEEEEEELLY and truly, cross my heart and hope to die, poke a needle in my eye, INFINITY, they are in the final, final tippiest toppiest, once-and-for-all, THIS IS IT FOLKS weeks of fundraising.

      Really.

      • Sookie Sookie

        Since the day I saw my first “Sunday Funnies,” I have *never* complained about my local NPR station’s fund-raising drives. In fact, they feel like a return to normalcy.

        • Missionary Kid

          If you donate to the local PBS drive, you may get your name mentioned on the air. At least you’ve contributed to the enlightenment of everyone who listens.

          If you donate to the IAS, you may get a big trophy if you’ve donated enough, but all it will accomplish is making a scam wealthier.

      • lynn

        yes! Because so much of your spiritual awakening depends on what status you are..sickening.

      • PickAnotherID

        They left out, “Until the next time.”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          …and so on and so forth.

    • You left out the fun bit: of the million of matching funds, the remaining available balance is

      Wait for it…

      you’re not going to believe this!

      $ 933,883

      WooHooooohh!!!

  • I see in the IRS agreement, they closed off some old cases, including with Pat Broeker and Ann Tidman. I bet that made Miscavige happy, even if he knew exactly where both of them were.

    II. D. 4. Trust fund recovery penalties. The Service shall abate in their entirety assessments made under Code section 6672 with respect to certain FICA assessments against Church of Scientology of California (1985-1986), Church of Scientology International (1988), Church of Spiritual Technology (1988), Religious Technology Center (1988), and Church of Scientology Western United States (1988), against the following individuals: David Miscavige, Norman F. Starkey, Marc Yager, Mark Ingber, Lyman Spurlock, Patrick Broeker, and Ann Marie Tidman (Broeker). In addition, with respect to the foregoing penalty assessments, the service shall (1) refund upon proper claim any amounts collected, along with interest as permitted by law, (2) withdraw any notices of levy, and (3) release any notices of tax lien filed.

    • Sideliner1

      “….also if someone could post the grabs and/or text from this Enquirer story that would be nice”
      Like this?

      ‘TRAVOLTA & ALLEY’S CULT HID MURDER, TORTURE & BRAINWASHING SECRETS’: The controversial Church of Scientology – which claims John Travolta and Kirstie Alley as members – has come under scrutiny for murder, torture and brainwashing.

      In thousands of pages of files, the FBI called the religion a “cult,” and said it attracted “perverts, hypochondriacs and curiosity seekers.”

      A March 1981 document revealed cops reported church member William Fisk was “shot to death before members of the group in the Seattle headquarters in the Church of Scientology” on Sept. 11, 1963.

      The “premeditated killing ” was triggered by an enraged husband who felt his marriage was imploding because William and the church urged his wife to dump him.

      The files a lso described church founder L. Ron Hubbard as being “hopelessly insane” and suffering from “paranoid schizophrenia.”

      Hubbard’ s wife, Sara Northrup, accused him of physical and psychological torture thro ugh “denial of sleep, beatings, strangulations and suggestions that she kill herself,” the files said.

      In another bizarre incident, officials in New Jersey accused the church of practicing surgery without a license and conducting “scientific torture experiments.”

      The FBI raided the church’s offices in Washington, D.C., and Los Angeles in 1977, and arrested 11 members, including Hubbard’s third wife, on espionage and conspiracy charges.

      Hubbard was labeled an “unindicted co-conspirator” and went into deep hiding.

      He died at age 74 in 1986.

      A representative for the church said the claims made in the FBI documents “all have been proven to be false and evince the harassment of a new religion in its formative years.”

      • muchos grassy arse

      • Mockingbird

        I am not a hypochondriac or thrill seeker! Boy , who looks dumb now !

      • Anonymous

        Interesting…not one single piece of new information…but I’ll bet the story is labeled an “exclusive.”

        Lol.

      • PickAnotherID

        Don’t they have any answer besides, ‘Lies, lies, it’s all lies.’ when this kind of thing comes out??

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Never, not them

  • nottrue
  • Panopea Abrupta

    Lush posted his latest post just downstream, including a link to the latest podcast from the National Statesman.The NS Podcast #95: Neil Gaiman and Amanda Palmer
    The artist and novelist discuss their guest edit and their chosen theme:
    saying the unsayable.
    http://www.newstatesman.com/staggers/2015/05/ns-podcast-95-neil-gaiman-and-amanda-palmer

    Neil Gaiman, I doubt you will read this, but here goes, anyways.

    You are married to a woman who made a living busking as a living statue

    (“I can paint my face
    And stand very, very still
    It’s not very practical

    But it still pays the bills”)

    So why are YOU the FUCKING living statue?

    The irony fucking BURNS.
    Neil Gaiman can say the unsayable, can discuss it with erudition, with charm,
    can go to bat for Charlie Hebdo at the PEN gala.
    Unsayable, that is, so long as there is NO mention of the fact
    that his father was a criminal quack GO thug who bullied
    and lied and broke innumerable laws,
    all the while profiting from his sales of useless nostrums and panaceas;
    as long as there is no mention of the criminal con that half his tribe wallow in.

    Let’s write brilliant stories, Neil.
    But don’t FUCKING mention the herd of rogue elephants in the solarium, shall we?

    Grow a pair.
    Pratchett wasn’t afraid to call a spade a spade or a hoe a hoe.
    He was your mate.
    Do it for Terry if you can’t do it for you.

    There are children, much like you were, who, today, can fall into the trap of the Sea Org.
    There are families being destroyed, people driven to despair and bankruptcy,
    people enslaved to the risible ravings of a mendacious narcissist.
    You are NOT the only one threatened with disconnection, mate.

    Speak, damn you, speak.

  • J. Swift
    • Ruby

      Oh my goodness! Paulette is so beautiful! She really IS lovely. 🙂

      • ReallyMGM

        I have so much admiration for her professionally. She is a LOVELY lady and looks so happy with her puppies!

    • Sid

      I hope no-one’s stat is ‘ number of positive articles written about Scientology, but not written by Scientology or paid for submissions’. They could be in big trouble by this point.

  • Done! (For now)

    Scientology – IRS draft closing agreement

    I don’t think I’ve mucked anything up, and the extra levels of indentation make it a lot easier to follow the various sections and clauses. I still have to go back through and make sure everything is wiki-linked, and well as added to the categories of the page. (That way the agreement will automatically show up on that category — no need to remember person x or company y was connected to it.) I’ll probably add some more highlighting to make it easier to scan over that wall of text.

    • ReallyMGM

      Thanks! Bookmarked for future reading and reference.

    • Sid

      This is great! You should post this again at some point.

    • Sweet Xenu’s Mother! I was tagging with law cites, and hit this bit of bollix:

      All information submitted in connection with the closed applications as described in paragraph A.3., and all information submitted in connection with this Agreement other than that listed in paragraph A.1. and A.2., including but not limited to (i) all Qualified Written Material information not specifically included as part of the Code section 6104 public inspection file of Church of Scientology International pursuant to paragraph A.1., and (ii) this Agreement itself, shall be considered to be return information described in Code section 6103(b)(2).[2]

      They’ve defined the agreement itself as confidential return information! That’s absolute bullshit invented so that the IRS can deny anyone the right under code 6104 to view the damned agreement!

      Add that to your IRS complaints and smoke it!

  • Tao of Lepton

    Wish that flow chart reflected satanism, which in actuality was what Hubbard was doing

    • Missionary Kid

      Satanism mixed with Hubbardism.

      • Graham

        Satanism + Hubbardism = Thetanism?

        • Missionary Kid

          Good one.

  • lynn

    ok, i’m not sure what just happened & if I’m the only one seeing this on my screen..I was down thread & got a popup, same time thread jumped as i was clicking to exit..and now, those posts on thread are at the top (from 8hrs ago)…again, not sure if it’s just on mine or I reposted stuff to board, if so..I apologize.

    • Eileen

      Same thing happened to me, I just resorted to newest and it fixed it. I think just a disqus glitch.

      • lynn

        thanks, tried that & seems to be ok now.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Astra Woodcraft trys to tell her story, clams deny it all.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NE0sZbpnMVo

    • Donna Cline Sargent

      thanx–never saw this

    • Mymy88

      I’ve never seen this one. Thanks for posting.

      BTW, I sent you a reply and I don’t think you saw it. It’s about Tenerife. It was maybe about a week ago? I’m not sure.

    • Robert Hammond

      Thanks. I’ve never seen this one either. Not that I’ve seen all of the thousands of videos about Scientology and ex-members, but I have watched as many as I can find. This interview is very concise and direct. The interviewer does a good job showing that he’s talked to numerous former members and read other stories all pointing toward abuse, manipulation, and deception.

      As usual, the Scientology rep denies all the accusations. What else is new? I wonder if she has left yet.

      Seems like many of these spokespeople end up leaving after the see the other side and hear all the stories. I don’t see how they can stay, unless they are held against their will or totally mind-controlled. Oh, wait..

      • Donna Cline Sargent

        have you watched the St. Hill raid. someone can correct me but she is the one that slapped John

        • Frodis73

          Yep, that is her. Janet Levou (spelling her last name wrong).

          • Donna Cline Sargent

            i thought so and Simi was her kids nanny.

        • Robert Hammond

          No, I don’t think I’ve seen that one either. Feel free to link it below if you have it handy. Otherwise, I’ll see if I can look it up on Youtube. Thanks.

          • Donna Cline Sargent

            sorry just learning ( Tony had to help with my mistake ) so its easy to find with – St. Hill raid – but when i play this video.when it ends it lets me choose it

      • Missionary Kid

        Oops, replied to the wrong post.

        • Missionary Kid

          I deleted the original content.

    • FollowTheMoney

      Great stuff. I hadn’t seen this one. Good to see the interviewers challenge the infamous Janet slap face Laveau. They handled Janet’s attempts to deflect Astras claims well – rather than just accepting Janet’s claims never to have seen things herself (note how this is not an out and out denial) the interviewer said well I’ve interviewed several who have said the same thing.

  • okay, I know there’s a scientology connection here but buggered if I know how to rephrase it more appropriately ….
    pic

    • I think they’re from the Church of Latter Day Mechanoids.

      • was thinking….

        an ultimate SP declare has the nickname of being a “goldenrod”

        ….the goldenrod is the ‘god and saviour’ of Ewoks

        …. any scientologist who wants to blow can be told “leave now and be worshipped by Ewoks”…

        …. there’s a lot of potential here for Star Wars 8!!!!

        edit: C3PO could be the unofficial mascot/emblem of Ex-Scientologists, no?

        • Robert Hammond

          Not to mention that Jedi Knight is a bigger and much more respectable religion than Scientology.

          • Graham

            In the last UK census there were 71 Jedi for every one Scientologists.

        • Yub nub!

          • I couldn’t find the original but I made this meme over a year ago….. doubly appropriate now

            • Commodore H. McCringleberry

              When they revealed that the Big Bad Villain of the new Star Wars movies is Supreme Leader Snoke, my first thought was, ‘At least Miscavige sounds a bit more menacing, even if he’s surely far less powerful. . .’

    • For those that might not get the gist:

      Goldenrod – It is Scientology policy that all SP Declare orders are printed on a piece of goldenrod colored paper. In Scientology, only ethics orders are printed on paper this color, so an SP Declare (see Declared), which is the most infamous kind of ethics order, is often referred to as “a goldenrod”.

      • Tory Christman

        Interesting! Just FTR: These are flat out lies….which is *always* what $cientology
        does with “SP Declares”. The intention is to make the person look ~so~ bad (suppressive)
        that NO ONE will want to *ever* speak with them, or God forbid….learn the *real* facts.
        The full declare can be found on Xenu.net
        and I’ve made over 700 videos on ToryMagoo44 on YT—telling my story, and experiences while “in” this Cult. Love to all here 🙂 Tory/Magoo

        • Will add this to my big later today when I get to my iMac.

  • Frodis73

    Nightline/ABC is doing a story on some apocalyptic cult and sex abuse in about 1 minute if you’re on the east coast.

  • First Last

    Kursite wisdom …

  • Shanester

    Scientology has become such a joke. I just watched two YouTube videos — each the latest upload on their respective channels — and both offered two-second throwaway jokes about the cult. It’s gotten to the point where I can choose two YouTube videos completely at random, and both of them make nasty jokes at Scientology’s expense. While I love that it’s come to this point, this casual dismissal of the cult is also somehwat worrisome, because I want people to take it seriously enough to write to their representative and demand Scientology’s tax-exemption be rescinded.

    In the meantime, though, both of these mean-spirited jokes were really funny — and unexpected. YouTube annoyingly insists on inserting its giant video frame into Disqus with every link and I don’t want that, so here’s the relevant bits! (I’m bored right now, so I’ll just type out the comments for posterity’s sake and your amusement on a Friday night.) The first one is from ETC News and is truly just a throwaway comment: “Better watch out or they’l sue you like a Scientologist!”. “Did Xenu tell you that?”

    Red Letter Media are a bunch of snarky YouTube movie reviewers in Wisconsin who gleefully and offensively trash Hollywood at every turn. They are not for the delicately tempermented. Part of their shtick is reviewing dreadful VHS discoveries from the Goodwill bin, one of which was an unfortunate kiddie sing-a-long from the 90s called “Let’s Sing and Dance”.

    From their review:

    Jack: How can you copyright the words “Let’s Sing and Dance”?
    Jay: Hasn’t Marvel copyrighted “superhero”?
    Jack: They copyrighted “mutant”.
    Jay: Well, then, who has “superhero”?
    Rich: DC has “superhero”.
    Jay: Well, this [video producer] has “Let’s Sing and Dance”. So, if you’re ever out at the club and someone says that, they owe money to this company.
    Jack: I hate it when I’m out at the club, and I’m all “Hey, yo! Let’s sing and dance!” and a lawyer comes.
    Mike: They have powerful lawyers. It’s like the Church of Scientology.
    Jay: Those guys are crazy, by the way — those Scientologists.
    Mike: Allegedly.
    Jay: They’re crazy!
    Mike: Alleged! Alleged! Rich is a member of the Church of Scientology.
    Rich: Xenu told me not to talk to you about this.
    Mike: Or was it John Travolta when he was giving you a massage?

    • Graham

      I share your disquiet about the general joking & degrading. It has a slight feeling of joking about the class idiot. Who takes the class idiot seriously? Who would bother to sue a silly idiot that nobody takes seriously? Joking’s OK but it would be nice to see it tinged with a bit more rage.

      • ReallyMGM

        There is a point the jokes cease to be hilariously funny. Read a few stories of disconnection or worse, and you realize many of the jokes are at the expense of others, some who never had a choice.

    • Ben Franklin

      For every group of people who joke about CoS, and doesn’t take it seriously, there is a group that is outraged and are actually willing to do something about. You don’t have to go past the Bunker for examples, you can find some of the outraged people right here and on similar sites. Unfortunately, just like with everything else, we can not stop people from joking about Scientology or other serious issues.

  • valshifter

    One day Miscavige will realize that he is running an scam and will be very surprised at the crimes on his hands, unless he already knows it and laughing about it.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Another cult that ruins people.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=106&v=D1fAeRXn6aM

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Saturday, 30 May 2015
    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,
    Boston is about finished for now, most ads have been removed, leaving 8X 2500 years books, and 1 JJ English tutors, hoping that CL will have enough of our complaints and ban scientology once and for all!

    Sfbay had a couple removed and Toronto scraped in.
    Keep on the pressure! There are now only 9 live ads left in Boston!

    Who should be our next target? Sac, SFBay, LA, Tampa, NY ? Albuquerque, Cincinnati, maybe St Louis, again LOCAL complaint is way more effective.
    I suggest NY as they have many ads and many blatant spams which does support our complaints.
    SpamTrack have been updated today 30th May at 2:30am est : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2536816

    RedX tips (including how to complaint to CL) : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2533632
    Flag co$ lies : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    F5 … Cliff by Bob Kåre flickred by Aeger Primo : https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/16165152329/in/set-72157642802079293

  • I did my review of The Unbreakable Miss Lovely. Did you do yours, yet?

    http://www.amazon.co.uk/review/RJJGP5MDZYRQN/ref=cm_cr_rdp_perm?ie=UTF8&ASIN=1511639377

    • Andrew Robertson

      Just done it!

      Andrew

  • 0tessa

    It looks to me Scientology Inc is turning into a real estate bubble. Their shell organizations have but two purposes: to avoid paying tax and the most important one, to protect Miscavige. Who seems to live like a snail in it’s shell.
    The huge shell Miscavige has built for himself will in the end mean his downfall.
    Because somewhere there is a flaw. There always is. And bubbles always burst. Always.

  • Exterrier

    Excellent work, Mr. Augustine. Most clarifying. Send those charts to IRS, please. How on earth did anyone actually buy this status/ideal org scam? It only proves that study tech and the Ron materials induce a permanently suggestible trance in the parishioner/marks of the scam.

  • Jo

    Curious if Miscavage is the COB … who are the other members of this BOARD that he chairs? LOL Are there minutes of the meetings when the BOARD meets??