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Jon Atack announces a five-day Toronto conference on Scientology to take place in June

Jon_AtackJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and for more than a year on Saturdays he helped us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet. He was kind enough to send us a new post.

Actually, Jon, it’s not a new post you’ve sent us but an announcement and an invitation?

JON: That’s right. From June 22 through 26th, Tyndale University College and Seminary in Toronto will host a course and conference on Scientology, planned and directed by Professor James Beverley and me. Jim and I have been friends for four years and have worked toward this event for some time. Our course and conference promises to be the most in-depth and wide-ranging course or conference ever held on Scientology. I intend to withdraw from Scientology related work after this event.

We will cover all aspects of the cult with the help of some of the leading experts — former members, academics and investigative journalists. It will be the first time that the global influence of the cult has been properly scrutinised. Sessions will consist of presentations by the various participants, interviews with luminaries, videos, question and answer sessions and panel discussions. We will bring together activists from around the globe.

The following stars of the counter-Scientology firmament have already confirmed that they will be available in person, by Skype or on video:

Paulette Cooper, author of The Scandal of Scientology and target of the infamous Operation Freakout.

Steven Hassan, the best known cult expert in the world, author of three books, including the best-selling Combating Cult Mind Control.

Tony Ortega, proprietor of the Underground Bunker, to speak about his remarkable new book The Unbreakable Miss Lovely.

Russell Miller, eminent biographer of L. Ron Hubbard and author of Bare-Faced Messiah.

Jesse Prince, former senior Sea Org member and David Miscavige’s auditor, with revelations from his forthcoming book.

Hana Whitfield, founding member of the Sea Org, captain of the Mission Into Time and former leading exit counsellor.

Ursula Caberta, former Hamburg Minister and driving force behind German legislation concerning Scientology.

Nancy Many, author of My Billion Year Contract, and subject of an episode of Dangerous Persuasions (which will be shown at the seminar).

Andreas Heldal-Lund, creator of xenu.net, a/k/a Operation Clambake.

Arnaud Pallison, criminologist, author and advisor to the French courts.

Tory Christman, former OSA agent (and brilliant speaker).

Professor Alexander Dvorkin, for 21 years head of a counter-cult group in eastern Europe, and the main target for Scientology harassment in Russia.

Karin Spaink, journalist and long term Scientology critic, who won a long legal battle against the cult’s attempt to take down her website.

David Pike, head of FACTNet.

Lawrence Wollersheim, who was paid a nine million dollar judgement by Scientology.

Chuck Beatty, former Sea Org member, privy to Hubbard ‘advices.’

David Barrett, PhD, sociologist and author of several books about ‘new religious movements.’

John Duignan, author of The Complex.

Jonny Jacobsen, journalist, who has reported on Scientology for over two decades. Host of Infinite Complacency.

Chris Shelton, former member and advocate of critical thinking.

Nora Crest, second generation member and Celebrity Center staffer.

Pete Griffiths, leading activist from Ireland and organizer of Flag Down.

Marta Gorna, Polish activist.

Professor Martin Poulter, expert on belief systems.

Steve Cannane, ABC TV presenter, author of a forthcoming history of Scientology in Australia.

The entire conference will be professionally filmed and edited, and made available to schools and universities around the world. Several companies are interested in creating a TV documentary at the conference, because of the availability of so many luminaries in one place.

The conference will cover Hubbard’s true biography, the beliefs and practices of Scientology, fair game and the intelligence agency (GO and OSA), the RPF, Narconon, finance and the IRS, the celebrity connection, Scientology under Miscavige, violence inside the cult and the exploitative techniques of hard-selling and auditing.

Other noteworthy participants have yet to confirm.

Tickets for the five day seminar and conference are priced at $120 per day or $500 for the five days. There will be concessions for those unable to afford this price. Please apply to the organizers at gettingclear2015@gmail.com

UPDATE: Register this week for $75 per day or $350 for the five days.

Be there, or be square!

— Jon Atack

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

David Miscavige is in the house — in Basel, Switzerland for today’s ‘Ideal Org’ opening

 
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And here’s some video footage from the big party!

 

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Our Twitter feed is under assault…

 
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Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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BOOK NOTES

On May 14, you will be able to purchase ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ from Amazon in either electronic or print format, and simultaneously in the United States, the United Kingdom, Canada, and Australia.

The book will not be available for pre-order before that date. It is going live for sale on Thursday, May 14, and not a moment earlier. And hey, that’s just a few weeks away, so you won’t have to wait long.

Our appearances…

May 16: Santa Barbara Humanist Society (with Paulette Cooper), 3:00 pm
May 17: Center for Inquiry-West Los Angeles, 4773 Hollywood Blvd, Hollywood, 11 am; ALSO: CFI Orange County (Costa Mesa), 4:30 pm (with Paulette Cooper)

May 20, San Diego Hey, folks, we could use some help. The San Diego Association for Rational Inquiry (SDARI) wants to put on an event for us, but it’s not their regular night for meetings and they need to find an alternate venue. Can any of our San Diego readers help us find a space?

May 22: San Francisco (with Jamie DeWolf and Paulette Cooper)

(Finalizing a New York City event in early June)

June 20: Chicago
June 22/23: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper)

July 12: Washington DC, Center for Inquiry

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 25, 2015 at 07:00

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UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists

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SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

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  • Missionary Kid

    In America, we whistle to show approval, but in Europe, don’t people often whistle as a form of booing? If that is true, I’d say that there was a large contingent of Americans in the crowd.

  • PickAnotherID

    And I’ll bet the Cof$ counts the protesters as “attendees” in their numbers for the ribbon cutting.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      For sure!

  • Tom Yozwiak
    • Sibs

      Swim away! Swim far far away where the regs can’t find you!

      • Tom Yozwiak

        Commit their crimes to the deep!

    • Newiga

      Bail while you still can!

    • Rasha

      Preference: sharks.

    • Sherbet

      There are sharks ON this boat!

    • Rasha

      Too cheap for a proper gangplank.

    • Sid

      A lot of these statements are designed to steer people away from thinking and to just donate for whatever the flavor of the week is.

    • Draco

      That chick’s legs are going to hit that wire.

    • skiesareblue

      something’s wrong here. oh yea, they aren’t blindfolded and their hands and legs aren’t bound.

  • While I’d love to attend, and it isn’t that far, five days is more than I can spare.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      you can go for just one day or two.

  • xinit

    “Register this week”

    Where? No link to the registration?

    • Sid

      Please apply to the organizers at gettingclear2015@gmail.com

      • xinit

        Seems like an odd way to register – I’d read that as a way to apply for fee concessions.

        “There will be concessions for those unable to afford this price. Please apply to…”

        • Sid

          Just send an email inquiry about how to register. They should be able to let you know.

          • Techie

            I emailed, no reply yet. I hope it means “Register this week coming up starting on Sunday 4/25” and not “This week ending on Saturday 4/24” in other words today. This is the course http://www.tyndale.ca/summer/courses/theo-0670-0 which can be audited as a visitor for $400 but no mention on the site about registering for the conference.

  • Sibs

    “Hey, Mom and Dad, look, there’s a conference in Toronto for five days with a lot of the most knowledgeable people about $cientology in one place!”
    “Will it help you get a job?”
    Sigh.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      I’d have lied and said yes. were you in?

      • Sibs

        Nope, I’m a never-in. And I’m terrible at lying.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          Then my idea of saying you’d find a sympathy job there wouldn’t work. Well, at least you get to talk to your parents unlike many were ins. My parents are out thank god.

          • Sibs

            Yeah, disconnection is one of the biggest crimes of $cientology that I am grateful I have never experienced.

            It’s just that if I was looking for any excuse to save my money and drive up to Toronto… nope, no support there. xD It’s okay, I can watch on Youtube.

            Edit: However, my parents did just ask me if I could drive up north again this summer sometimes and watch my baby brother for them like I did a few weeks ago, so road trips will be happening.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              me and you both.

        • One Human

          Going would be worth gettin’ job.

        • Keeping Scientology Waning

          Did you try extra-credit? I’m old but that used to work sometimes, back in the day.

    • aquaclara

      “No, but it will help keep me from ever running off to join a cult!”

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Hey anyone have anything definite about how young their hunting SeaOrg Recruits. I know Arthur Ehrlich had the twitter about joining at 16. So that’s my guess.

    • Sid

      Often they go after them at 14 for the Sea Org.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        They USED to go for as young as 7 from what I’ve heard. but they’ve change the requirements. Mainly due to bad PR.

    • Basketballjane

      I was first recruited at 10. Other people I know joined as young as 8. They are still recruiting 13-15 year olds.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        I can’t believe they’d still go after so young but I guess who else are they going to trick into joining. Sick! I know someone who used to teach them and probably still does. I think she volunteers. I’ll have to ask her if I see her again walking from CC Hollywood to Gleson’s (Mayfair). Do you know if social workers have visits with these kids. Am wondering if we could get the state to insist on regular interviews with the kids.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Laura Decresenzo joined when she was 11.

    • Pre-pubescent is how the Damnation Navy likes its victims. In that way, any desire to engage in “2-D” activities (even all on one’s own) can be safely ironed out and replaced with 100% chromium steel purpose (or something).

      You may think I’m joking, once you find out that “2-D” in this context means sex and masturbation and stuff, but you would be disappointed.

      Check out ex-scientologist kids on http://exscientologykids.com/

      And there is nothing definite as long as a Thursday 1:58pm rush can be fixed by getting a child locked in a room with a dozen adults shouting at them to sign and not letting them out until they have signed.

  • outraged

    Miscavige has no tie, open shirt and is lecturing a bunch of flowers. hmmmm……

    • Peggy oh!

      I think he is wearing an LRH ascot! Pulling out all the stops!

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Sound check.

    • Sibs

      You know what that means!

      Yup!

      Time for more Macallan!

    • I was right! That lectern was only knee-high.

  • nottrue
    • flyonthewall

      protest looks very robust! Can’t wait for more vids n n reports

    • romanesco

      Good find. I can’t really tell what’s going on in the video, though.

  • madame duran

    Y’know…I was about to complain about how nobody loves Canada and how Canucks are often left out of major happenings south of the border. *gives the shady eye to HBO Canada* Now, I see this announcement today.
    I AM SO GONNA BE AT THIS TORONTO EVENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    *hunts for toonies and loonies hidden in couch, coat pockets, piggy banks, under mats, pillows and mattresses*

    • Susan_Poche

      You can have my Loonies Madame!

      • Andrea Garner

        And you have my toonies, m’lady!

    • Betsy

      Oh, oh! I hope to see you there, Madame!

      Edit: can I get those French-fry thingies (can’t remember Canuck name) there? Desperately want to try…

      • madame duran

        Ehhh….you mean poutine (French fries, gravy, curds)?

        • Sid

          I’ll be leaving my tuque at home though.

          • M from Toronto

            It’s only June, Sid. You mean you ‘hope’ to leave your tuque at home!

            • Sid

              Only if the ice breaks up on the lake by then.

            • M from Toronto

              That brings memories, my mother worked for a Great Lakes carrier for a time and the first trip through the locks was a great celebration.

        • Betsy

          That’s it! (What are they? What do they taste like? Will I be happy to have tried them?)

          • Sid

            They are goopy with cheese. Basically a heart attack in a bowl. I’ve had them a few times. Not bad but I prefer my fries a little more crisp.

            • Betsy

              Hmmm…well, I like goopy…and I like cheese…not sure about the heart attack. I think I’ll take the risk (once.) What is the goopy part? (Flavor-wise).

            • Sid

              The goopy part is ‘all of it’. Soggy fries covered in gravy and cheese. If you aren’t in the vicinity of Canada (mostly the eastern part) you could probably find a recipe online to try.

            • Betsy

              No, I mean what kind of gravy? Southern-fried-steak kind? Au jus?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Best poutine ever was in Denver actually. Duck fat fried fries, pulled duck meat, gravy, caramelized onions and cheddar cheese curds. OMG, to die for.

              http://euclidhall.com/

            • Sherbet

              My cholesterol just went up 40 points after reading your post, L. Wrong.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              That’s what I do….

            • Sherbet

              Poutine with a side of Lipitor.

            • dungeon master

              I used to get the best buffalo wings ever in Denver – so good that even tho you knew you would get chapped lips and explosive diarrhea, you still wanted them. Tmi? Back in my misspent youth. OK. I deserve a bout with the bunker shaming machine lol. Did my mother teach me nothing?

            • Susan_Poche

              brown gravy baby

            • Sid

              The brown gravy made with flour, water, and le boeuf.

            • Keeping Scientology Waning

              Good question to ask…the last time my in-laws served “gravy”, it was actually tomato sauce. Still figuring that out.

            • Sherbet

              Some Italians call sauce “gravy.” My actual-imported-from-Italy parents never did, but others do.

            • dungeon master

              Obviously good southern folk. I used to beg my kentucky gramma to make me tomato gravy w/ biscuits or toast. Its made like a medium white sauce with tomato juice or stewed tomatoes instead of milk. FYI.

            • M from Toronto

              Betsy my darling, why do you think we have universal health care? Poutine. It’s all about the Poutine. Oh, and Syrup Pie. Oh, and… never mind.
              here is a link pour vous, to the best Poutine spots here in the T Dot.
              http://www.blogto.com/toronto/the_best_poutine_in_toronto/

            • Betsy

              SKREEMING with laughter! Thanks for the link. I WILL try it. I imagine they have cardiac emergency care units in Toronto. (If what I’m reading is true, they have a LOT of them.) And I am copying out the link info so that I can go straight to a poutine joint (if that is what they are called) when I arrive.

            • M from Toronto

              My Québécois BFF would call it a Poutinerie, (the French have a word for everything) I would be with you an call it a Poutine Joint, if the food travels, then it has to get a local name!
              Now that I think about it, Nom Nom Nom is right next to Toronto Western Hospital. That is a coincidence because their food is absolutely awesome. Not close to the venue for the conference though (none are that I can think of) so it’s only if you have extra time here.

            • skiesareblue

              Quebec Slangy pronunciation: poot-sin

            • ze moo

              You can buy poutine ‘sauce’ and take it home with you. F5

            • M from Toronto

              I don’t know what is mystifying me more. That it’s No Name, or that I have never, ever in my life seen this item. St. Hubert yes, this no, and since I shop at RCSS (Loblaws) I’m truly amazed!
              There really is no limit to what we talk about in the Bunker.

            • Dolly Jones

              That link sold me on them. Looks amazing. yum

        • Dolly Jones

          Wow I want try this. Looks amazing. Yum yum yum

    • Newiga

      Try living in Finland… Talk about being left out.. 🙁

      • madame duran

        You have my sympathies (if you’re a Duranie in Finland…double that). I get kinda mad because although Canada and the U.S. are practically next door neighbours, we are left out in the cold (so to speak) in so many ways. Yeah, there are political and economic factors or considerations at play here but still…it sucks.

        • Some Canadian commedian said it was like living in the attic of a house that threw huge parties all the time. I spent two of my teen summers on a farm in Markham just outside Toronto. We spent many long nights downtown and I thought Toronto was the one of the coolest cities in North America.

        • Observer

          I wouldn’t be surprised if our government’s craven fear of offending anything that calls itself a religion when it is demonstrably an organized criminal enterprise has something to do with it.

          • Mymy88

            LOL you have a way with words that is undeniably the best when it comes to being educational and full of snark at the same time!

      • Captain MustSavage

        What are you talking about? You’ve got your own song. Finland, finland, finland…the country wher I want to be…
        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YNr3nK_bvKQ

    • Dawn G

      …furiously googling “loonies and toonies”…..

      • Sid

        Canadian dollar and two dollar coins designed to wear a hole in your pocket.

      • MaxSpaceman

        use DuckDuckGo. com instead of Hearsay so you leave no footprints (that Google saves about you) behind.

      • Robert Eckert

        The “loonie” is the nickname for the Canadian dollar, because it has a loon on one side and an odd duck on the other.

        • Sherbet

          So it’s like scientology’s leadership.

        • ze moo

          The 2 dollar Canadian coin is called a ‘doubleloon’.

          • Dave In Ajax

            actually its a two-nee

      • Sibs

        I learned about loonies when I was a little kid and lost a tooth in Canada. The Canadian tooth fairy left a loonie under my pillow!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X

    Looking at LilFiveOne in Basel –

    Christianity has the Sermon on the Mount
    $cientology has the Vermin on the Applebox

    Something CAN be done about it 🙂
    Since the $cientology name and brand is toxic, they flood Craigslist
    with innocuous-sounding ads to lure the unwary and vulnerable.
    We find these ads and take them down by Red-Xing them.
    Feel free to join us.
    Take five and go here:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    TICK TOCK, Tiny Tosser
    Things are spiralling out of your con, troll.

    • Beth

      I was babysitting yesterday and knocked out an entire spreadsheet 🙂
      back to work……

      • Beth

        totally o/t – I was babysitting for a friend whose son is now in 3rd grade. He’s tall for his age and growing fast, but I wondered how close he to DM’s height so I measured him. He’s 4’9″. He will be the same height as D(u)M(b) when he’s in 4th grade. 5th grade at the latest. Hahahaha!

        • Juicer77

          LOL!

  • Mark

    There’s a recording of the demonstrators doing their “Alles was Kracht macht” noise-making bit, with an incomprehensible Schweizerdeutsch commentary and a pic, here: http://www.srf.ch/news/regional/basel-baselland/protest-gegen-scientology

    • Mark

      Piccy from SRF website: (ETA Ach verdammt, didn’t paste).

      • Mark

        Noch einmal… Piccy from SRF website:

    • Juicer77

      If their noisemaking was near enough to infringe on DM’s speech, some poor Sea Argher is going to have hell to pay in the editing booth trying to isolate Der Flunkenfuhrer’s voice from it.

      • The Sea Argher has something left to pay hell? All regs report to Ethics!

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        The protesters were on the other side of the building from the stage, but the part of the building in between is only one story high. Timed correctly, the noise would definitely have been heard.

    • pluvo

      Translation:
      (I hope I got the grammar somewhat correct and the Bunker grammar police is not coming after me. 😉 )

      Protest against Scientology

      The residents of the Basel Inselin–Quartier (= name of the area of the city) are not happy about that Scientology opens a new center in their neighborhood. On Saturday they demonstrated noisily against the Scientologists.

      About 100 to 150 people assembled Saturday afternoon opposite of the entrance of the new Scientology center. As more and more cars were driving up in front of the so called “Ideal Org”, the opponents were protesting noisily – with cow bells, horns and whistles.

      “One knows very little about them and I believe that they are dangerous” a young man said. “I am living here and our children are going in the Kindergarten here. We feel annoyed and we simply hope that our kids will never get approached” another resident voiced his reservations. Till now one hasn’t noticed much of the Scientologists in the neighborhood but that could change rapidly. “Yesterday I was at the bakery and there I heard that the baker was already approached by the Scientologists”. It would be displeasing if the Scientologists were proselytizing in the borough.

      • Mark

        Thanks 🙂 Of course, I shouldn’t have said Schwyzerdütsch was “incomprehensible”—it isn’t—just beyond my leaden Neuhochdeutsch capabilities!

        • pluvo

          Well, Schwyzerdütsch is indeed difficult to comprehend. I just understand it because my native (German) dialect has similarity.

  • Andrea Garner

    An extremely nice intellectual property rights lawyer bought me a margarita or three last night. He promised to cast an eye over some of our past Sunday funnies. I may have been the oddest date he ever had 😛

    • aquaclara

      We can use an intellectual property rights attorney, er commenter, hereabouts…

      Has he seen Going Clear? Great date night flick.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Ha! Workin’ it for the cause. Cheers!

    • Mark

      Hee-hee! Hollywood may yet be the death of $camatology (Disney alone must have plenty of infringements)…

    • Sid

      If he offers to copyright your Bunker posts, as well as offer and grant certain exclusive rights to and concerning his, uhm, local jurisdictions, then you’ll know he likes you. He may even trademark i-Betty for you.

      • Andrea Garner

        ‘Local jurisdictions’ sounds saucy! I’m in like Flynn, Sid 😀

        • Sid

          Just be sure to get to know him better before showing him your trade secrets and patented discoveries young lady.

          • Andrea Garner

            Heehee!

    • stillgrace2

      Ha Ha! I’m catching up with the bunker after a busy week and I wanted to tell you how much I loved the photo of you and Dee on the boat.
      It brought a much-needed smile to my face! I want to go on the next boat ride with you guys!

      • Andrea Garner

        Yes, please, we’d love you to come!

    • Super Power Wogsie

      The oddest dates are the most interesting dates!

    • Dolly Jones

      Brazen little Hussy! 😉

    • Rita Gregory

      What a saucy little vixen you are, Andrea!

  • Asillem4

    I hope they offer the conference via internet at some point. This is an amazing opportunity I won’t be able to participate in. Bummer!

    • Sherbet

      It will be filmed and edited into a comprehensive package. I want it.

      • Susan_Poche

        I do too & we shall have it.

        • Sherbet

          ^^^^^ Don’t mess with us!

      • Asillem4

        Awesome! Although I don’t (think) I know any Scientologists, I’ve studied cults for decades. Interesting.

  • Richard

    Did Scientology have a Swiss roll call in Basel?

    • Sherbet

      No, but let’s hope the PR puts a Swiss stake into scientology’s heart.

      I meet your bad pun with a worse one.

  • Science Doc

    Refresh to see Swiss Misscavige.

    • Mark

      More like this:

      • The Man of the Hour prepares to strike:

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        Lol.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    (Basel) A self-styled American “religious leader” today opened an old office building that had been remodeled after sitting vacant for years.

    The sparse crowd listened to a fairly incomprehensible speech about “off-ramps on the highway to eternity” and other meaningless slogans.

    After seeing balloons released into the air, passersby wondered if this were some sort of American office supply chain opening a new regional office.

    Refreshments were served after which everyone left.

    A representative of the company named Ken Delusion explained to locals at the nearby Starbucks that the building was a new “Scientology Ideal Org” and assured them that the structure was “fully ideal in every way.”

    Delusion failed to leave a tip as he headed off to city hall to ask that the building be tax exempt as the sets of hardback encyclopedias and other goods the firm sells are apparently religious in nature.

    • Sherbet

      Was there a parade? Parade + books = tax exemption

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        There was an insufficient number of people at this event to conduct even a very small parade. For this reason, it was decided to have the American regional sales manager gave a speech instead.

        Ken Delusion claimed to a local real estate blogger that the firm had “eleventy billion members scattered across the 15,901 countries on the seventeen continents of the world.”

        Delusion further asserted that as Toronto was “situated at the crossroads of civilization” it was therefore “vital to have an Ideal Org in Toronto to help achieve planetary clearing.”

        Delusion thereafter called his headquarters to claim that he had just concluded an interview with a major Canadian news organization and that all of Canada heard the good news of “planetary expansion.”

        • Sherbet

          “Insufficient number” you say? I disagree. I see at least 478,000 spectators. Bigot!

          • Sarah James

            LOL you used Scientology math there. 🙂

    • Sid

      I don’t know how you can call a crowd of 1,500 sparse. This robust crowd was counted by a newly signed 14 year old Sea Org member who had just graduated the Delphi Math course before signing his contract. He was actually put on a meter while counting and asked a series of sec check questions during this to make sure his TRs were in. At first he exaggerated greatly with a count of 47,000 but hey, let’s bring this back to reality. Our reality. There were ‘only’ 1,500 people there.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Sid, let’s not get distracted here. The real question is this: When will you stop committing continuous present time overts?

        • Sid

          Overt. Singular. Just one overt and I think I’ve got about 30 years left on it.

  • Super Power Wogsie

    So Dave finally came out of his cave…

  • OT Grumble!: Wikipedia has a bug in their infobox microformat results for addresses. What’s the point in stealing templates for my wiki if I have to correct their homework…?

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Question: I notice that these location openings always use the same type of ribbon to cut/pull apart during the ceremony. Even the mission in Richmond (pictured; now long gone) had a tiny version of that ribbon during its opening. Why use this specific ribbon?

    http://www.styleweekly.com/binary/68be/street51_scientology_200.jpg

    • hansje brinker

      Lack of originality.

    • MaxSpaceman

      because of its aerodynamic properties

    • Techie

      Remember we are dealing with a sociopath known as DM. When they started doing big events regularly in the early 90s there was an attempt to make each one unique and different. The stage would be built, then DM would show up during construction (often in those days at the Fort Harrison Ballroom at Flag). He would say it looked too much like the last event and tempers would flare, carpenters would tremble and Mr Paint would be called to apply yet another layer of paint to the long-suffering styrofoam columns and bases. All nighters and pain all around. Then they discovered that you can print a translucent plastic backdrop in ridiculously huge sizes. Lit from behind, it becomes a changeable element to differentiate the event stage design, while leaving the semicircular architectural stage elements almost the same. They put a printer that can print these things in the Castle studio at Gold. Then it settled down into a predictable pattern. Once it is set, such a pattern is unbreakable, because to change it you either have to request a change (unthinkable because DM said it was OK once, therefore now and forever it is OK) or just change it and hope DM does not notice. The consequences of such a change if DM doesn’t like it are far worse than the consequences of just letting it be a tired old cliche. That is why the tired worn out old ideas stick around in Scientology practically forever. They still use a message format that they call a “Telex”.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        I guess that explains it.

  • Adrien Marcel Drea

    I ‘d like to be there

  • dungeon master

    Did anyone mention post edited to include early enrollment reduced fees? Jon Atack’s bit above…

  • Adrien Marcel Drea

    in basel according to highrank scilons they were five millions body thetans who attended this big event including lil’ slaping drinking scotch guru

    • Dr_Orpheus

      Protesters brought a much greater number of BTs with them, since insane SPs carry an usually large number of them.

  • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

    This 5-day conference will be fabulous and look forward to hearing/seeing it later, since I can’t attend. Bravo and thanks Jon Atack.

  • ze moo

    The Swiss protest site says there were only 100-150 people at the ‘grand opening’. You get more at any ‘sale’ at a mattress store.

    • Dolly Jones

      On one of the twitter photos put up earlier today I did a quick headcount from the section direction in front of the stage and there were 257 people. Now, I was on my second glass of wine so I won’t stand by those figures…. but even so it worth further investigation.

      • ze moo

        I don’t believe the 150 figure. Looks more like 500 or so clams.

        • Dolly Jones

          Yeah… if there were just as many on the right side of the stage that would be about right.

        • Harmless Weirdo

          My rough count + fill-in-the-blanks guesstimate was maybe 600 attendees, max. Plus staff working the gig (who were not seat-fillers).

          As always at Scieno events these days, the crowd skews old. Lots of gray and white and balding heads. Lots of hairstyles and dye jobs on women that suggest they are well into middle age, or older. I am reminded of the saying that science (or society) advances one funeral at a time.

          And how many of these attendees live in or around Basel? How many are even Swiss? Because fine, maybe they can get 500, or 600, or maybe even 800 Scienos to attend a big event like this–but how many in that crowd will ever see or set foot in the Basel Ideal Org again after today?

          If they got a good turnout today, I won’t try to make it seem smaller. It’s not necessary. In no time at all, the crowd will be gone, and Basel will have its very own Idle Morgue, just like all the rest of them.

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            Bussing in, and paying salary to so many extras is going to put the org in the red for many years to come. But as long as ‘Let Him Die’ was happy…

      • Captain MustSavage

        I estimated approximately the same, with a roughly equal number to the side. Up thread the number of protesters has been estimated to be 300 – 400.

        • Dolly Jones

          That’s a good number 🙂

    • romanesco

      The 100-150 figure refers to the number of protesters.

    • JMasiulewicz

      LOL. Sitting in my mattress store checking out the Bunker between customers.

  • Sarah James

    Just saw the video, thank you Tony!

    What is Captain David Miscavige celebrating? Child abuse, starving Sea Org, whale shake down, disconnection, beating staff, brain washing, let him die day? Dive back under your rock COB davy, as the IRS can find you there or SCOHB. You waste the space you take up.

  • Richard

    So, they’ve just knocked 30% off the conference entrance fee.

    Talk about invented prices.

    I’m sorry, and I don’t give a damn if no one agrees with me, but this pisses me off.

    Why?

    Because nowhere has it been stated who is organizing this event.

    If it’s a private venture, then say so and tell us all that someone, whoever, needs to get back their outlay expenses.

    Now, don’t get me wrong. I fully appreciate that shipping in many great speakers from all over the world is expensive and the price could well be justifiable. But at least tell us all why the tickets are priced as they are.

    You want the biggest conference on Scientology ever? Great, but I’m sure many of us just can’t afford it.

    “Be there or be square.” I’m sorry, but that is just not funny.

    • Basketballjane

      Umm Jon Atack covers that right in the beginning. “From June 22 through 26th, Tyndale University College and Seminary in Toronto will host a course and conference on Scientology, planned and directed by Professor James Beverley and me. Jim and I have been friends for four years and have worked toward this event for some time. Our course and conference promises to be the most in-depth and wide-ranging course or conference ever held on Scientology. “

      • Richard

        So?

        • Basketballjane

          Well you said it wasn’t stated anywhere who organized the event. So I was showing you that. If you can’t attend I am sorry to hear that. I am looking forward to speaking to whomever attends.

          • Richard

            That’s not what I’m asking. I’m asking who is responsible for paying for the event.

            • Basketballjane

              I see. I would imagine that is what the funds are for. But I am just a speaker, not an organizer. So I can’t answer that question accurately.

          • Andrea Garner

            I look forward to hearing you speak once the videos are made public. You are going to be superb.

    • Tom Yozwiak

      “There will be concessions for those unable to afford this price.”

      • Richard

        Oh, come on. I’m not an old aged pensioner nor a student.

    • Andrea Garner

      Rich, I don’t understand. Do you mean you want to see an accounting before the event takes place?

      • Richard

        Look, $500 becomes $350 in a couple of hours with no explanation.
        Even $350 is not a small amount. I’m not saying it’s too much, but I think that a few more words should be said about the organization of this event.
        Who is interested in attending could well say “Oh, I’d pay that to see all those well known people” and I can understand it. But is is correct to just shove a big price in front of everyone and say “You want to see us, then pay $350-$500”?

        • Andrea Garner

          Reducing the cover price for a limited time in the early stages is a tool that’s often used in marketing to gauge interest and persuade as yet unconfirmed speakers of the viability and popularity of an event or launch. I can’t speak about the cost of the tickets, obviously. I can only say that I personally don’t find the price excessive but, yes, it’s not cheap.

          ETA: You pay for quality 🙂

          • WindexClear

            I agree. The reduced cover price for early buyers is standard these days and I’ve always appreciated it. I also know people who’ve put on conferences and it definitely helps them feel more confident that they’re not going to end up losing money. I think the price seems fair for all you’re getting and it’s in line with similar offerings.

        • Peggy oh!

          Probably just forgot to mention it.

          I have never gone to any conference that *didnt* have early sign up pricing.

          I’m damn sure that they didn’t just decide this afternoon to slash prices.

          • Richard

            Yeah. that sounds lame.

          • Harmless Weirdo

            Yeah, this–I used to attend academic conferences, plus a few devoted to a hobby, and a hefty discount for early registration has always been the norm. It’s in the organizers’ best interests to get as many people as possible to register early, so they offer that incentive.

            So I see nothing dodgy about this at all. The only issue I do have is that it wasn’t made clear how to register in the first place. Is there a conference website, yet? Because there really ought to be one by the time a conference is announced, or at least a date given for when it will go live.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          You certainly don’t seem to understand the costs of putting on an event or conference like this. I’d rather see a more positive attitude then negativity thrown in out here. Sorry, but that’s how it comes across.

          • Richard

            WHO is putting on this event?

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Email and ask questions, thanks.

            • Richard

              You’re right. I’ve emailed them.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Good. Just remember there’s a certain amount of security needed for any educational or anti-scio event and if you don’t know why, then just study more. Sometimes a little trust goes a long way.

            • Richard

              Oh come on Dee. Don’t justify the price, please.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Not talking about paying for security, but getting/giving information security.

        • BigMcLargeHuge

          Pre-registration discounts are common for any conference.

          BTW, 500 bucks for a 5 day conference is cheap in comparison to most.

          • Dave In Ajax

            it also gives the organizers a good indication of the interest it may generate

          • Captain MustSavage

            Yes. I’m heading off to one next week that’s costing $800 for three days. Either $350 or $500 is a steal to see the luminaries speaking at that event.

        • Captain MustSavage

          All academic conferences give ‘early bird’ rates for those who register before a certain date.

        • kemist

          Those are price ranges that are pretty well within what I’m used to in academic conferences or workshops. They often also offer a sizable discount if you register before a certain date.

          For instance PyCon, a conference / workshop on the python programming language, charged from 600$ to 100$, depending on your status (corporate, student, ect) and registration time, plus an additionnal fee (100$ each) for attending the tutorials.

          Even at those prices, the thing was sold out before I ever had time to register.

    • Frodis73

      Richard-I adore you, but I really think you are making a mountain out of a molehill. The name of who is putting on the event is in the original announcement. There is an email addy. Please write them if you have any concerns. I really think you are freaking out over nothing…this is coming from somebody who is dirt poor and couldn’t afford to go in my wildest dreams fyi.

  • Zeromus Rex

    Is it me, or does that guy on the stage next to David look like Hodor?

  • Hingle McCringleberry

    Only slightly off topic, but there’s been some problems with nominations for the Hugo Awards (one of the top awards for SciFi literature) with certain groups organizing to support whole slates of candidates based on political or social issues. Way to complex to get into here. On the other hand, the author George R.R. Martin, who wrote the Game of Thrones books has been following the controversy closely at his website and posted his thoughts on the history of people trying to influence the Hugo Awards and you’ll never guess which group reared its ugly head in 1987 to try and snag a Hugo for their SciFi founder. . . Also surprisingly, it turned into a flap. You can read this blast from the past here:

    http://grrm.livejournal.com/417812.html

  • Tom Yozwiak
    • L. C. Spencer

      *snerk* Nice one!

    • Kay

      AND….having horrid missing and decayed teeth despite the fact that I have millions of dollars to fix them with.

  • madame duran

    Question: Was Stephen Kent and David Touretzky not available? Don’t want to sound like I’m complaining (yet again) about anything. The list of guest speakers for this conference in Toronto is quite formidable but I just wondered if they were invited or indicated they’d be interested and some arrangements are being hammered out behind the scenes.

  • A first impression of the demo against the Scientology org
    opening in Basel/Switzerland. The video is from the first part – at the end
    were between 300 and 400 protesters.

    More videos will follow, including the full [sic)
    Scientology event including David Miscavige …

    If you wanna be informed and speak a little German –
    pictures are in English ;-): http://www.wilfriedhandl.com/blog/

    https://youtu.be/J4veYMJwJAM

    • MaxSpaceman

      They weren’t joking abut the noise-making & percussion instruments ! Good Show !!

      • Richard Grant

        These folks take their Krach machen seriously.

    • Beth

      super! Thank you for getting this material to the bunker.

    • romanesco

      Vielen dank, Wilfried!

    • Walter Mitty

      Vielen Dank für deine Arbeit.

    • Missionary Kid

      The streetcars sure did their parts, too.

    • aquaclara

      Love seeing this! You guys rock! Or I should say, mum! With the pan lids and tooting horns, that’s great mumming,

      And all the people on the trolleys got to see a great show.

      There were quite possibly more protesters than Scilons.

      Wilfried and company for the WIN. Whooot, Whooot!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Whooot, Whooot again!

    • Jenstnick

      I think it’s fair to say that there are more protesters than scientologists in Basel.

    • I. Was. There!

      It was pretty excellent.

      My photos (cannot get enough publicity) start at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jensting/17085345050/in/set-72157622499631193

  • Kim O’Brien

    i can’t think of anything more awful then hearing about scientology for days on end

    • Cameo Head

      Maybe hearing about scientology for days on end while you go through withdrawal with no medical support?

      • Kay

        Great comment.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Yes, if it was about scientology itself. These are peoples lives and how they are exposing the crimes and abuses, being documented for all others to see. Even more personal and detailed than the HBO documentary. And Tony O will be there too, don’t forget and a chance to meet him.

    • George Layton

      Being in scientology for days on end?

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        That’s gonna be hard to beat.

  • Cameo Head

    Maybe Miscavige will send the TRio: (Jenny Inch Wife Linson Devocht on lead vocals, Dave the Knave Bloomberg on camera, and Marc Yes-Man Yager on backup) to assure everyone that the conference will have zero effect (none!); that Scientology doesn’t give a fuck and that’s the truth; that Scientology doesn’t care and nobody’s interested in any poxy “conference;” that nobody knows why all these out-ethics SPs are in Toronto, nobody knows what they’re doing, and, above all, nobody gives a crap. All Scientology really wants is for the conference attendees, speakers, and organizers to just end it, just to spare themselves any further embarrassment. After all, the conference won’t do anything to help mankind — only Scientology can help mankind.

    Lather, rinse, repeat.

    (Also, new rule: nobody taller than Miscavige is allowed on stage with him.)

    • Are_sics

      Well, they absolutely don’t care at all. But they will want all those people to stop committing suppressive acts. Full time suppressive acts.

      But nobody cares.

      • flyonthewall

        and all the attendees look terrible

        • WindexClear

          Their bulging, non-caring eyes are so perceptive.

          • flyonthewall

            well they do have all 57 perceptics in, so they have that going for them too

    • WindexClear

      They have to vocally not care but walk away and come back to incredulously NOT CARE at least twice….just to make sure their not caring isn’t interpreted as anything but not caring…which it so obviously is.

      • Cameo Head

        They care about communicating the extent to which they don’t care.

    • Andrea Garner

      Hur hur 😛

    • ze moo

      I would expect the usual cast of ‘private investigators’ to look for or cause trouble.

    • JMasiulewicz

      Would be fun to see then running from gate to gate at the airport.

  • Hamtaro

    A short note about conference prices: back in the ’90s the (pre-Scn takeover) Cult Awareness Network’s annual conferences were usually 3 days and ran $40-50 per day. So advance registration pricing of $70 in 2015 seems very fair. It’s quite likely that Jon and Prof. Beverley are pricing tickets with the same goals CAN had in mind: pay for the facility rental, if any, and attempt to 100% offset the cost of bringing in the speakers. Back then, none of the speakers, AFAIK, received any honorarium for speaking. The goal was simply not to have it cost them anything to attend. Basically, it was a way of being polite and showing appreciation to the speakers, who were donating their time. Oftentimes there were only 70-120 folks at the entire conference. I know some of the speakers ended up paying part of their own expenses. Tickets were discounted for folks who had money issues and there was even an informal setup to pair up folks to share a room if that was what was needed to get them there. The whole focus was to get the max # of people there and participating more actively in the critic movement. I’d bet anything that’s one of Jon Atack’s goals for this conference as well.

    Now for the good part: attending a conference like this might be the most fun you’ll ever have as a critic. You get to sit in small groups and talk with all the people you know by name but have never met. You’ll make a ton of new friends that you’d never have the time or money to meet in person otherwise. You may end up eating dinner or having drinks with “celebrity” folks you’ve only read about online. I found attending to be a ton of fun and an unforgettable and unique experience.

    • Sid

      Thanks. I agree that one of the main reasons I’d go would be to meet some great, like minded people.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I had a terrific time during the oft time of listening to the speakers at conferences i attended. It was invaluable and most enjoyable, meeting and being with those you had only read about.

    • Keeping Scientology Waning

      http://www.tyndale.ca/summer/register

      Is this the same thing? Looks like you can register through the University.

      • Hamtaro

        No idea. I’m not an organizer, just a commenter relating my past experience. The conference is not on the school’s calendar, so it’s probably a private event not a school sponsored one, but you’d be best off writing to the conference email address to find out.

      • Techie

        That’s the course which you can take as a student or audit as a student. Lower on the page gives options to attend as a visiting student. But this is not the Conference, I could find no reference to the conference on their site and it is not on the calender. Either the conference is being organized separately or it is not up on their site yet.

  • Missionary Kid

    Bill Mahr: (Supposed note from a student to their teacher, the topic being, “I wish my teacher knew.”)

    “I wish my teacher knew she hasn’t taught me anything.

    Because all knowledge comes from Scientology.”

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      I saw that and whooted! I don’t even watch his show much. Thanks for writing the quote.

      • Missionary Kid

        Since it was the last joke, I considered it the one that got the audience going the most. The audience loved it, and $cientology took on its usual punching bag posittion that it gets from comedians.

  • René Kraaz

    Pictures form Basel:

    • Super Power Wogsie

      Nice! Thanks for sharing!

    • Richard Grant

      Quite a contrast between the diverse crowd of (I presume) protesters and the uniformed heavies keeping the crowd at bay. You don’t really need captions to get the message here.

    • aquaclara

      Thank you! As you might be able to tell, we’re enjoying this event about as much as you are! The comments started in the wee hours of what is my morning, and have continued all day. It’s now after 3:30 pm Eastern Standard Time.

      Cheers! Nothing more fun than a great Scientology protest.

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Woudn’t it be great to have one like that in Clearwater? So good to see them happening anywhere really and appreciate those who do it!

    • Observer

      I see Shrubbery Tech was fully deployed. Also, the Scientology guard goons are the grouchiest-looking, most sourpussed people on the planet. Shouldn’t they exude more of a fiercely triumphant vibe? They just look like they need a diaper change.

      • romanesco

        They’re probably not allowed bathroom breaks, so yeah, maybe the Depends aren’t holding up too well.

      • ze moo

        The Knights who say Nie must pleased with their offering. Now, who cut down the tree with a herring? Sounds like a jog for the RPF.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Obs! Yay!

      • Draco

        They probably do – I doubt miscavige allows bathroom breaks for security…

      • Missionary Kid

        No shit! No, shit!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Dauntless… Defiant… Dyspeptic…

        (refresh)

    • A bird in the chimney

      120 Seats (in the street) front and center of the overworked-yet-tiniest podium ever teched at this Huge Event! is my very rough estimate based on zooming in on picture #4. These Ideal Orgs are sure bringing in the masses.

      • Captain MustSavage

        I estimate around 260 directly in front, possibly more and perhaps a similar number to the side.

        • A bird in the chimney

          I’m good with your improvements on my limited work! 🙂

    • Captain MustSavage

      Would love to get your estimation of how many protesters were there.

      • René Kraaz

        My estimation is 200-300 protesters.

        • Captain MustSavage

          Thanks.

        • sugarplumfairy

          That is a beautiful thing!

    • A New Day

      In these pictures I see: on one side, beautiful humans engaged in real communication; and on the other, uniformed sheeple/waiters of the hive mind.

  • Tom Yozwiak
    • Super Power Wogsie

      Looks like everyone had a great time. Where are you guys getting these vids from? Just curious.

      • Tom Yozwiak

        I just googled – scientology protest video Basel Switzerland – and this was at the top of the list, just posted 2 hours ago online.

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Thank you very much.

          • Tom Yozwiak

            You’re so very welcome! Researching $cilon is a labor of love.

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Cool. Keep sharing please! I so wish I was there.

      • René Kraaz

        We were there and there was a big media presence.

        • Tom Yozwiak

          Good for you! Keep up the great work!

        • Super Power Wogsie

          That’s fantastic!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        When you see a video here, look at bottom right ‘YouTube’ and click on video, then you can also comment there as it does help them. For those who may not know that.

      • romanesco

        http://www.wilfriedhandl.com/blog/

        Wilfried Handl’s blog.

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Thanks!

          • romanesco

            Also, I think René Kraaz was actually there taking photos.

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Yep. No worries : )

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Yippee! Great Pete Griffiths and all who attended the protest.

      • Tom Yozwiak

        Oh, doesn’t look like it was great? Wish I was there.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Most likely to be quoted and broadcast throughout the EU on various of the media attending, in Basel:

      “Scientology is about one thing: the money.” – Pete Griffiths

      • Super Power Wogsie

        Show me the money!!!

      • scottmercer

        No, two things. Money AND Power.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          (They are the same thing…)

    • Andrea Garner

      I’m delighted to see Pete there. I love that man 🙂

      • Super Power Wogsie

        He is super cool. Isn’t he? Brave too.

        • Mymy88

          Yeah, I think so too. One time I tweeted him asking if he could please tell me which video it was that he imitated LRH with the rotten teeth. He answered and sent me the link! tee hee. I already told you that story though, didn’t I Wogsie? Oh well, any change to name drop and I’m there.

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        Ditto.
        That is a good man there!

    • JMasiulewicz

      Were there no OTs with superpowers who could have remotely silenced the protestors?

  • Richard

    Are the Volunteer Ministers already distributing ‘The Way to Happiness’ in Nepal?
    After any severe earthquake, that is the first thing people need.

    • A bird in the chimney

      Touch Assists on Everest. (I’d like to see them get there.)

      J&D aside, things look pretty scary right now in Nepal. My thoughts are with them.

    • ze moo

      That is one of the most active earthquake faults on the planet. Why didn’t some clam warn us? The next large quake will be in Pakistan and then Iran, and then Turkey. That 2000 dead number is going to go up as the fault presses west.

  • A bird in the chimney

    Wow! What a line up! I wish the best for the conference and hopes it goes fantastically. I also wish I could attend, but I’m afraid life is causing me to be square with this one. I look forward to seeing the reports and eventual videos come out of it. Best of luck to all speakers and attendees!

  • Sam

    We put the bell to good use today at the protest. Thanks Renee for taking the photo!

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Bless you dear child of Meepthorp.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Europe has it down better than USA and thanks for ringin’ that bell Sam. 😀

    • 1subgenius

      The thing about a bell.
      It can’t be unrung.
      Just as a mind expanded by an idea can never go back to it’s original size.
      Thanks for ringing the bell.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        What the hell kind of pickup line was that?

        • 1subgenius

          Has never worked, but I know that someday…..

          This is for you, I know you’ll enjoy it.

          Features Thelma Houston.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gqguISPRN0

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            You’re so sweet.

            • 1subgenius

              Why yes, yes I am. Thank you for noticing.

              That song actually has a lot of meaning for me, and yes, I’ll go ahead and tell the long boring story.

              Has to be at least 10 years ago, and I walk into a familiar blues club, which had an awesome soundman. The song was playing, between sets, as I walked in. I noticed that what sounds like a love song, is just the opposite when you listen to the lyrics.

              I asked the soundman, Neil, what the hell that song was. He told me that he had been playing song for years and nobody noticed that it was an over-the-top vengeful, spiteful hate filled song. From then on until the place closed, he would always play it when he saw me come in.

              He told me at the time who it was, but I got it wrong and hadn’t been able to find it to add it to my collection. It was driving me nuts. I finally located soundman Neil (Sever) recently, and he told me who it was, and I finally got myself a copy of it the other day. He told me to this day still, no one else had ever remarked on it.

              In its juxtaposition of sweet melody to gut wrenching lyric it reminds me of this song, and they both remind me of you.

              Yes I’m just a sweet old sentimental fool.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dGGwVsvseGw

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I don’t know whether to feel flattered or insulted. I’ll go with an awkward combination of both.

            • 1subgenius

              Ta-da!
              Great song, no?
              Heard it before?

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Never, but I do like it.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    I always look for Stacy Brooks, in these list but I understand why someone who was harassed so bad would want to just move on. She is still being stalked by them on youtube claiming she has had plastic surgery. If she did who the fuck cares but an ugly, clam!

  • Kestrel

    That’s an impressive list of conference participants. Who is the Ortega guy again?

  • First Last
    • L. C. Spencer

      “The whole time, he didn’t blink, he just kept looking at me like some sort of psychiatrist or something…”

      Absolutely priceless.

      • Mymy88

        That was my favorite part lol.

    • Captain MustSavage

      Hilarious! As someone naive to Scientology, he picks up on every single thing wrong with it pretty quickly. Love that he ruffled feathers by mentioning Xenu.

    • Mymy88

      Gosh! I’ve got to YouTube message this guy and tell him to come here and look at all the great comments his video got!

    • 1subgenius

      That was good.

    • Kay

      This guy was great !!!!

    • scottmercer

      The fictional Bob from Akron, Ohio is about to be inundated with dead tree junk mail at whatever fake street address the dude gave them.

  • Mymy88

    Yaaaaay! o/ I know odds are you’ve already talked about this but I only have a few seconds to post and I wanted to share my excitement. I was at the grocery store today and they had the scilons on the cover of the Enquire! The title was ‘House of Horrors’ and they had pics of Kirstey, John and Tom (and a few others I didn’t recognize except for Lisa Presley), and pic of one of the huge scilon buildings (the white one). I know the Enquire has a lot of garbage most of the time but the point is everybody sees it since it is always in the check out line, usually displayed in the front before you even go in the checkout line so that people just passing by can see it too.

    Score! I’m going to mail it and some prints of other recent popular on-line mag covers and put a note on top that says “Na na na na na. I told you so! I’m doing this because whenever I tried to tell her about how sinister $scien is, she would poo poo me to the max of the max. Now what will she say. A big fat nothing, that’s what! Ha!

    • phoebequeen

      That’s great. I had the same moment 2 weeks ago when I saw a magazine with TC and JT on it. Even though the Enquirer is trash, they were the ones who got the real scoop on the John Edwards fiasco.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        See it isn’t well written but it gets the true stories first. They have the budget, as I mentioned to have lawyers go over it. You’ve gotta see this weeks, Enquirer. They also have the budgets to get the scoops first. I really miss, The Weekly World News, now that was real fun trash!

      • Mymy88

        Yeah, well that’s undeniable. Sometimes the underdog get’s the worm, or something like that lol.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I saw that too and almost wanted to buy it. ‘Scientology’s House of Horrors’, Dungeons for Children,’ They had one more about , The Hole. It took up the entire front page and made it look like a haunted house. Well done, Mike Walker and crew!

      • Mymy88

        Wow, if Enquirer is doing it, that’s hitting the bottom lol. That should scare the hell out of Pusscavige more than anything else!

  • Alex De Valera

    What a treat! and what a pity that Jon is leaving cult skirmishing. We’ll sure miss him.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I could have sworn he’d said that before. Maybe it was in a bio he wrote for this blog about experiences he had with another $cion. But it rings a bell. Maybe like Armstrong’s, last tour.

      • Robert Eckert

        In a previous column here, not all that long ago, Jon intimated that he was going to be backing off from anti-Scilon work, but without setting a “retirement date”.

        • Susan_Poche

          I heard him say such at the Enough is Enough talks.

  • flyonthewall

    I’m having computer issues so sorry for the stupid question but is the only way to register for the conference via the email address given? If there’s a link to register I can’t see/use it.

    • Super Power Wogsie

      It appears the only way to register is through the email provided. I’m not seeing any other link.

      • flyonthewall

        cool, that’s what I thought. I just solved my computer issue bc I have computer hacking skills. This, in addition to my bow hunting skills makes me a formidable adversary

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Bow hunting?

          ETA: I wish I had computer hacking skills.

          • flyonthewall

            umm hunting with a bow n arrow, hello? *valley girl voice*

            PS – I was just lying about the aforementioned skills. I have neither. It took me about 4hrs, 3x uninstalling/reinstalling chrome, countless browser history/cookie deleting to finally discover that it was a malicious “browser extension” that needed removing 🙂 BAM! prob fixed

            • Super Power Wogsie

              I know what Bow hunting is. I just thought you were serious about it. I’ve been to the archery range but I couldn’t stomach hunting an animal *shudders*

            • flyonthewall

              Well, why not? They’re not going to kill themselves. Unless….

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Eeer….NO. I’ll be sticking to targets at the range. *still shuddering*

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I got in so much trouble playing with my step Dad’s cross bow. I shot it at an oak door and it literally went completely through. There was no hiding that when they got home.

            • Super Power Wogsie

              You are crazy! I’ve never used a crossbow before. I’ve only used a longbow while I was at the archery range. You can F5 for pic. As you can tell by my bad form, it was really hard for me to draw the string the first few times. Either way, it was fun, and my friends always had a great time when I brought them with me.

            • flyonthewall

              yeah they had a great time, until you turned the bow on them

            • Super Power Wogsie

              They were okay with the archery. It was when the boys took me shooting for the first time that there was concern across their faces. Refresh for my work.

            • flyonthewall

              nice!

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Eh…I need more practice, but girls typically shoot better than guys anyways.

            • $cnMonkeyNut$

              Damn right! Guys couldn’t aim to save their lives 🙂

        • MaxSpaceman

          add on the Fly Lego Construction Yard & Manufacturing Plant Incorporated and you are far more than formidable, monsieur.

  • Pierrot
  • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

    Don’t know if this vid has been posted. The ribbon pulling seen from above. The building on the left is the org, and the windows are, of course, still covered – { “Can’t let those damn WOG’s see what we’re doing!” }

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pMovCWhEoU4

    • WindexClear

      I christen thee, DUNDER MIFFLIN!!!

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      There was a slight goof with the rope. That means someone will be cleaning the bathroom with their tongue tonight.

      • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

        ‘Let Him Die’ had to pull the whole thing by himself – as usual! All hail the mighty power of COB!!!

        • WindexClear

          Was he also interpreting the speeches for the English speakers in the audience? *snort*

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            After the rope is pulled you can see him turning and slapping the guy to his left.

      • Draco

        The goof with the rope was caused by the silly twat himself. You’d think he would have learned the “rope tech” by now after opening a million idle orgs on all 70 continents.
        But, you are right, someone else will be blamed…

        • It’s not a good opening unless he almost strangles someone. (Ref: Going Clear, when Marty blows.)

      • Sid

        If I remember right the rope actually doesn’t do anything. There is someone way off to the left out of sight who does the release.

        • Keeping Scientology Waning

          Out of sight alright… Probably for the next 5 years.

    • Mark

      Pah! Apart from the rope-screw-up: just look at the way the little creep was kept dashing back and forth like some trained ape shaking hands at the start, because he can’t understand a word of German—and then scampered off like the craven coward he is a microsecond after the ceremony was over. Still scared of helicopters (never mind incontinent flying animals), wittle Davy wetpants?

      • SLIM

        That’s because he’s a big being scumbag…
        Have fun now Davy-boy…Cause your time is a coming…
        Amazing how much disgust I have of him…

      • MostEthicalPimp

        wait, are you saying if I hovered over an ideal org opening he wouldn’t come out? Like a weasel that smells a fox? might be worth the 300 an hour…

        • Mark

          Worth a try… it worked with the Rindercopter!

          • MostEthicalPimp

            Rindercopter? Is that just Mike Rinder or a specific incident.

            • Mark

              When Mike Rinder and Mike Bennitt buzzed Miscavige’s opening of the FLAG building in late 2013 in a hired ‘copter—and cut what should have been an hour-long boreathon of Shermanspeak from the Shrivelled One down to barely 15 minutes 🙂

              http://tonyortega.org/2013/11/17/live-over-clearwater-watching-scientology-from-an-eye-in-the-sky/

            • MostEthicalPimp

              CLASSIC!!! That one is going in the archives!!! I think Miscavige’s Home turf would be ideal for a repeat! THNX!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Mymy88

      Clap fools! Clap and cheer, before your dogs are killed!

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        “Row, row, row your boat…” Sing, dammit, sing!

        • Mymy88

          Uh huh LOL! Row, row, row your boat, as it gently circles the drain. Row dammit row!

        • ze moo

          Row faster, DM wants to water ski…..

          • Mymy88

            LOL!

    • Susan_Poche

      I would think The Captain of the Sea Org could untie a simple rope easily… it’s… um… really easy-peasy.
      just sayin’

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    Pray tell, when is the next org opening? If there is one near me, I feel compelled to watch, if only to satisfy the same morbid curiosity I get when I drive past a car crash.

  • George Layton

    Which org opening will be the one that there are more protesters than participants?

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      What was the ratio in Basel?

      • Sam

        I was there. I would say 3:1. Not bad considering there were only about 5 exs in attendance. The rest were local neighbors voicing their protest.

        • anonsparrow

          Thanks for going!

  • WindexClear
    • anonsparrow

      Xenu has been safely secured in an electronic mountain in the Pyrenees (or something).

      This is more like 5th Invader Force activity and I don’t like it one bit. Not one bit.

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        I still want to know how they get those batteries “eternally” charged.
        That is just not what I took away from science class.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          BTs they implanted BTs into the batteries… DUH! maybe you should go back to school.

          • Suzanna Nielsen

            😉 Not a bad idea actually!

        • anonsparrow

          You’ll learn the answers for yourself as you go up the Bridge. Don’t discuss your answers with others.

          Oh. And the batteries are eternally charged by magma. That’s how this whole thing started. 🙂

          • Suzanna Nielsen

            I always knew “Hawaii” was key geographical element………and it just wasn’t because our Queen Kelly Preston is from there.

            Wonder is she likes Poi?
            Hmmmm….probably.

            • anonsparrow

              I had to Google all that but I learned so much! Thank you SN!

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    So it looks like there is an org opening in Philly soon. May consider it, depending on the date.

    • Super Power Wogsie

      Please consider it! I would love to see pictures.

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        How hard is it to get a badge and get close to the podium? Impossible, I’d imagine.

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Honestly, I’m not sure. Make sure you bring a friend with you if you decide to go. Last time I was asked to go to an event, I was told I had to fill out a routing form. I’m assuming they will ask you to do the same thing if they knew you were a scientologist. I’m not sure.

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            Routing form?

            • anonsparrow

              Some of the more important events at “Flag” require (apparently) attendees to make advanced registration and then receive their photo (!) ID tag before they go in.

              Not sure if this is what SPW was referring to or not.

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Yep, this is what I was referring to. Thx.

            • MaxSpaceman

              I just posted the required card to get any kind of pass. Did you have one of those? a la the Michael Bennitt card up thread ?

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Nope.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Thought all public had to join the IAS. no?

            • Super Power Wogsie

              I was still getting services without an active membership. I only had an active membership for one year.

        • MaxSpaceman

          just whip out your I A S card and bam! — you going to get a pass. comes in handy.

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            How easy (and expensive) is it to get one? Keep in mind I’m a wog.

            • anonsparrow

              HAHA! You don’t get one. Not with your suppressive leanings.

            • flyonthewall

              AGP got one. I think you just have to mail in for it. 6 months free!

    • Missionary Kid

      Are there any buildings across the street where cameras could be set up?

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        So far I don’t see any pictures linked to the Philly org, so I don’t know. Must not be “ready.”

    • anonsparrow

      I thought that building is dead empty and in need of major renovations?

      There was an excellent article by some Philly media in the last 6 months that shows that place as barren as ever. Going to look for article…

      • anonsparrow

        Can’t find article. GoogleFu sucks.

        However, it was an excellent article that covered DM’s childhood in Philadelphia and showed pics of the abandoned and scary new ideal org.

        • WindexClear

          This one is from 2012 but it’s from Philly and talks about his childhood. He loves da scrapple, apparently. http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-03/news/30583520_1_david-miscavige-scientology-lrh

          • anonsparrow

            Wow. Another gem I was unaware of.

        • Cece
          • anonsparrow

            Thanks Cece. That’s not the one I was looking for but it’s practically the same story. Dead building is dead and Philly isn’t too happy about it. (Too bad they’re a bunch of wimps to do something about it though.)

            • aquaclara

              I know. The blight court, brilliant idea that it was, was downsized to one person. I don’t expect any further action from them at this point.

              But the people who were mainly in charge of the Org have been falling off and there is no growth. I think that means no money, too.

      • Cece

        Maybe check here:
        http://idleorgs.com/

    • anonsparrow

      Can you please post a link to any new news about this?

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        Sorry, I only found this on Scientology.org (a.k.a. the Mouth of Sauron) under the “upcoming locations” tab. They say 2014-2015, so they’re planning by the end of the year at least.

        • anonsparrow

          Ah ok. Yeah Scientology is a bunch of wishful thinkers/believers. But I’m pretty sure that new building is dead and broken. I would be amazed if Scientology lasts long enough to put money into it – it’s really big.

          • Sebastian L. Jackson

            Gotta pic?

            • anonsparrow

              If only I could find that article. One of the pics shows the entrance way with an exterior phone “box” to call inside and it was off the hook and appeared damaged. There was a bunch of graffiti and other signs of disrepair. I’m keeping looking..

            • WindexClear

              This is the building boarded up, but it’s probably not the pic you’re thinking of. I don’t see the phone box. http://articles.philly.com/2013-11-27/news/44523443_1_david-miscavige-scientology-karin-pouw

            • anonsparrow

              Thanks! This isn’t the same article I’m looking for but I think that’s the building.

              I’m not the best internet searcher but I must say that I”m getting unsettled with my inability to find this article.

            • anonsparrow

              It went in to great detail about Miscavige’s early life in Philadelphia and his father, asthma, dianetics, etc. etc.

            • WindexClear

              Are you searching images? It might be easier that way.

            • anonsparrow

              Give me 24 hours. (please 🙂

            • anonsparrow

              The Bunker delivers again and again. This is the article I was looking for and I’m sorry for thinking it was recent. And sorry because I thought the pictures were part of this story.

              http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-03/news/30583520_1_david-miscavige-scientology-lrh

            • Keeping Scientology Waning

              you found the international headquarters of the Petite Miscabbage Corporation. Cool

            • Eclipse-girl

              This is the only article I have seen that speaks of The Dim One’s childhood.

            • aquaclara

              That’s the building, and there is zero progress on this building.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Is this it? From 11 months ago, at 1315 Race Street…

      • anonsparrow

        I believe that’s their current location. They are hoping to move into a very big, tall building somewhere else downtown.

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          The PSFS building looks like it would strike the church’s Art Deco fancy.

        • MaxSpaceman

          From Windex’s downthread link: “The church purchased the 15-story former Cunningham Piano building in 2007 for $7.85 million and laid out detailed plans for the “Philadelphia Freedom Org” on philadelphiaideal.org, including a chapel, a bookstore and even an office for Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, who died in 1986.

          “At fifteen stories in height, The Freedom Org is the Church’s first ‘skyscraper,’ a shining example of the religion that can and does secure Total Freedom for all,” the website proclaims.”

      • Sebastian L. Jackson
      • MostEthicalPimp

        I just applied straight up and vertical tech! f5

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    That whole stage/podium set-up looks almost unreal. The photo above resembles something Mattel would create for Barbie. An accessory to buy to go along with your “Cult Princess Barbie” or “Messiah Complex Ken” doll. 🙂
    Refesh
    http://www.bethanysdollhouse.com/albums/album03/aaf.sized.jpg

    • flyonthewall

      Messiah Complex Ken is a highly collectible item

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        But “Messiah Complex Davey”, not so much…

        • WindexClear

          Recycled Skipper dolls were used in it’s production.

          • Mark

            Because Skipper was so vewwy vewwy wittle…

            • WindexClear

              Precisely!

        • flyonthewall

          Huge flop. Very embarrassing for Mattel

        • anonsparrow

          His doll has two buttons: “angry (real angry)” and “sleep”

        • beauty for ashes

          Kinda like getting a “Skipper” doll, its not totally developed and can’t wear any of Barbie’s clothes.

      • WindexClear

        He comes with his own special fright wig for when you hook him up to his Messiah-strength E-meter.

    • anonsparrow

      “You make Barbie; Donny & (?) & their superstar friends dance & turn with the push of a button!”

      Wow! When I grow up -I- want to be a superstar!

      • flyonthewall

        you already are Anon

      • Peggy oh!

        you make Tom C, Johny & their superstar friends dance and turn with a push of their emotional buttons!

      • Mymy88

        Oh jeeez, thanks a lot. I’ve been hearing an unending loop of that song by Bad Company ‘You Know You are a Superstar’ in my head since yesterday, after watching a ‘Behind the Music’ YouTube video. You’re “wanna be” reference helped a lot. I guess now the song will be in my head all day tomorrow too.

    • Mark

      Now we know which dollies (G.I.Shmoe apart) Davy plays with when he thinks nobody’s looking…

    • Mymy88

      Wow, you nailed it. I was trying to put my finger on it but gave up lol.

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Forger is ‘already’ on Time Warner Cable’s On Demand.! Instant disappearance from theatrical release.

    Ha! One tiny, microscopic step up from “direct to video” for JTravolta now.

    • kemist

      Wow, that was quick.

    • Mark

      Worse still, here it is in all its 1080p glory for zilch, bupkes, nada, nothing (not that I’m for one second suggesting that anyone deny JT his tiny Time-Warner residuals by downloading a torrent of dubious provenance): http://yify-movie.com/movie/the-forger-2014-1080p/

    • ze moo

      At least he didn’t have to wear a codpiece or dreadlocks in that one.

      • Robert Eckert

        Ah, well he didn’t “have to” wear a codpiece and dreadlocks in Battlefield Earth, he “wanted to” which is even scarier.

      • kemist

        When you can’t even get to stay in movie theaters as long as Mall Cop 2, and there’s pretty much no other competition, that’s a spectacular fail.

        I wonder how much money was lost on this thing.

        • Mymy88

          Hey! I love the Mall Cop movies! But I also love Kevin James so I may be just a tad biased.

      • Commodore H. McCringleberry

        “Jorm Tromolo’s Codpiece” would be an excellent name for a Bunkeroo. I’d take it if I wasn’t already known far and wide as Commodore McCringleberry.

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        Wearing a dead cat on his head (that seems to enter the room right before he does) is not much better.

        • Judith Sylvester

          He does look pretty awful. Waxy.

          • MostEthicalPimp

            I read somewhere that people who leave cults tend to have there skin regain it’s color aka less grey!

            • Judith Sylvester

              Come on John, come on out where the sun shines…

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            He’s definitely beginning to venture into “Grandpa Munster” territory as far as his looks are concerned.

            • Judith Sylvester

              What was the name of the kid? He looks like him, with the fake widow’s peak and all.

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Eddie Munster. lol

    • kemist

      I know the movie got very bad reviews, but I am wondering if this part of this might not be due to Going Clear and people boycotting Travolta for having made an ass of himself in interview following it.

      • anonsparrow

        Why don’t you just admit that you love JT and all of his movies?

        • kemist

          Noooooooo !

          You found me out.

          • Mymy88

            Be gone from me! You traitor! (sarcasm)

      • Peggy oh!

        Actually I think the whole having a premiere and going on talk shows was likely ordered by DM, and travolta probably had to strong arm his people who then strong armed the talk shows.

        When the the Florida premier was announce the movie was *already* on demand for direct tv and had no theater dates.

        It was just supposed to quietly go away.

        I see footbullet prints all over this!

    • ze moo

      JT spent a lot of time on the pr circuit to push ‘the forger’. Either the movie really sucks or a boycott/who cares? thing is going on, or both. JT has had his ups and downs before. If his next movie bombs too, then we’ll have an idea what is going on. Very odd that TW On Demand already has it. First run movies usually go to those companies that sell to hotels/motels. Perhaps that market is now using cable on demand? The mark up on hotel/motel movies beats the ‘honor bar’.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        In the articles about the “premiere” they had said that it was going to be released immediately “On Demand”. That’s why it was puzzling why he was participating in that event and the interviews. Or why Letterman would even book him. Usually when something goes straight to “On Demand” everyone ignores it. Who wants to focus attention on a known failure? Something else at work here perhaps? IDK

        • MaxSpaceman

          The distribution co., Saban, paid $2 million for the US of A rights. So they are going to get as much recoup out of On Demand as possible. Cuz the picture has zero legs for even a 1 week theatrical release.

          On Rotten Tomatoes, the film holds a 7% rating, with an average score of 4.2/10, based on 28 reviews. The consensus reads: “So rote that its star is overshadowed by his wig, The Forger offers nary a thrill nor a scintilla of suspense that couldn’t be overpowered by a decent basic-cable drama.”

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Does this remind you of a certain tomato torturer? HaHa!

        • Mymy88

          Some scilon threatened to kill Letterman’s dog?

      • PickAnotherID

        It really sucks. Started to watch it at my neighbors, 20 minutes in we decided to switch to a PBS “Sid the Science Kid” mini-marathon for his grandkids.

        • Mymy88

          I’d rather watch a vintage episode of Sigmond and the Sea Monster lol.

    • kemist

      It’s still on today in one place only in Quebec, and that is at Dollar Cinema.

      Dollar Cinema is a place where you can see american or hindi movies in Montreal for about 2.50$. You can go in and out of its two rooms while the movie is chowing, carrying your chair with you.

      • madame duran

        Still a waste of two dollars and fifty cents.

    • madame duran

      Watching a movie on demand instead of in theatres still means you’re PAYING to watch it. For anyone loathe to supporting JT and his cult in any way, I’d say keep far from it.

      • aegerprimo

        Yeah. I have DishTV… anyway, I noticed that Battlefield Earth was broadcast on IFC channel last weekend. I have never seen it (and I love Sci-fi shit even bad Sci-fi shit) and the movie was SO BAD I could only watch a max of 15 minutes. It was that bad. I’m sure David Miscavige’s micro-managing of the movie had a lot to do with how extremely bad it was.

        • MostEthicalPimp

          I feel like I have to go back and see JT’s Battlefield Earth again this time not under LRH’s hypnotic trance.. I remembered being surveyed when I left the theater by some teenage girls (Almost certainly SO in plan clothes) and saying that I liked it and that it was okay.

          • anonsparrow

            I went to the Freewinds once. Once.

            They strongly suggested that all passengers watch Battlefield Earth each time it was played at the local theatre there in Freeport. 3x in one weekend.

            That was nice.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              I was on curse at CC Hollywood and it was explained that we needed to go see the movie opening weekend to help put Scientology in a good light.

            • anonsparrow

              In a good light. If only..

              I remember one more thing. At the end of the third night, at the end of the movie, the theatre owner/manger went before the crowd and thanked them for their attendance and joked that Tom Cruise’s Mission Impossible (? – 2 probably?) was coming out soon and to please come back.

              Also, one other story. It was so weird because even the regular hardcore Freewinds staff got to go see it (to pump up attendance) and I sat amongst them. At one point I whispered over to one to ask him what he made of a particular scene and he shushed me.

              Ah the Freewinds.. lol.

          • aegerprimo

            I think you will find the movie BAD. I’m not a movie critic so I cannot put my finger on why it is so bad, but one thing I saw was the cut from scene to scene was worse than a B rated sci-fi flick. The acting was OMG! bad. Okay, check out Flash Gordon movie from 1980 was better than Battlefield Earth.

            https://youtu.be/x4mBGEdB-XE

          • L. C. Spencer

            It’s really, really terrible. It didn’t sweep the 2000 Razzies and all the Worst Movie lists because of Scientology — it did that because it’s a staggering achievement in filmmaking fail.

            If you want to cut yourself some slack, you could just watch Nostalgia Critic’s legendary 25-minute takedown of it. It’s hysterical, it’s epic and it does the movie justice. Harsh, implacable, hilarious justice. If you get to the end and still want to watch the movie, well, nobody can stop you 🙂

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kvbVYRvB4xs

            You could also treat yourself to a chuckle by reading Roger Ebert’s review of it:

            http://www.rogerebert.com/reviews/battlefield-earth-2000

            Sample line: “Their costumes look like they were purchased from the Goodwill store on the planet Tatooine. “

    • aegerprimo

      I guess that means the movie sucks and will not make $$ in theaters.

      • scottmercer

        They can still make a profit with VOD. The Interview ended up making $40 million on VOD. That wasn’t enough to turn a profit, but I don’t know what the budget was on The Forger.

  • Lady Squash

    Jon Atack’s conference sounds amazing. Wish I could go. What a line-up!

    • Super Power Wogsie

      The luminaries have landed.

  • pluvo

    The protesters in Basel did very well! Basel TV footage of opening ceremony with Miscavige and interview of protester: 7:10 – 10:23

    http://www.telebasel.ch/de/tv-archiv/&id=375059391&search=&datefrom=&dateto=&group=

    • Juicer77

      Everybody wave hi to Wilfried Handl! 🙂 (9:45)

      • pluvo

        … and René Kraaz who is also here at the Underground Bunker.

      • Judith Sylvester

        And the old style brass cow bell one woman was using. Interesting, the signs are in English, and very au courant: “SCIENTOLOGY, LOL”

    • Judith Sylvester

      All the speakers used the Miscavige sign language; put your hands on the podium and spread your fingers apart.

    • romanesco

      I guess the attendees outnumbered the protesters by a scant few. Handl said more protesters showed as the day wore on, ultimately numbering 300-400.

  • valshifter

    LRH wanted desperately for people to believe in him. All those costumes he wore, were just means to activate the “belief” button on people, to re-enforce in people the belief in him, is like saying “see I’m playing the part , therefore it must be true, you must believe” oh the trick, he was an old trick.

    • Hamtaro

      So what you’re saying is: you can’t teach an old trick anew, dawg.

    • pluvo

      He ABUSED people for his whims, narcism and crazy.

    • scottmercer

      Must be me, but people wearing costumes (when it is not Halloween, Carnivale, New Year’s Eve or Mardi Gras) does not activate my “belief button,” it activates my “bullshit detector.” The first time I saw masses of Sea Org members meandering around Hollywood Blvd. (near the Sea Org office on Ivar) my first reaction was “the navy must be in town, but wait…the port is 25 miles from here” which immediately led me to “oh these must be Scientology dweebs playing dress up.” I’m not here to mock others that believed in Hubbard, but every recording I have seen or heard of him screamed “blowhard” and “fabulist” to me.

  • Collin

    Good evening bunkeroos! finally glad i mead it in today!
    Another great story another great weekend in scion busting.

    • aegerprimo

      Hell yeah!

  • beauty for ashes

    This is so EPIC!!!! Sad and happy to see that Jon Atack is stepping away from activism. I acknowledge that it is a moment of change, and probably in his own best interest. Those kitties need attention after all.
    The concentration of all these energies in this one spot. I love how diverse the speakers are and how they bring so many different gifts to the event. Yeah!

    • Mymy88

      I could never say a single bad thing about people like him deciding to step away. They have fought scien so furiously and so bravely and god only knows where they got the strength and courage to do it for so long, but I still feel sad when it happens.

  • aegerprimo

    This course and conference on Scientology… this will put the study of it in academia as a CULT.
    (I think I can see why Jon Atack will step away from talking about Scientology at this point… it is because this conference is his last nail in the coffin of a money-sucking biz that poses as a religion.)

    • aegerprimo

      It is past my bedtime y’all!

    • Mymy88

      You got that right! Those f’ing mind fucking mongers!

  • madame duran

    Just a thought:
    If anyone unable to attend the conference wishes to forward questions to a particular guest (or guests), I’m willing to ask them on your behalf (provided I get confirmation of attendance).

    • romanesco

      Thanks, madame!

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Anyone know if there is video of this? I’d be curious to hear the audience’s reaction.

    “Director Brad Bird Praises Tom Cruise At Tribeca Film Festival; Janeane Garofalo Jokes About Scientology”
    http://www.ibtimes.com/director-brad-bird-praises-tom-cruise-tribeca-film-festival-janeane-garofalo-jokes-1896630#.VTwUl_-_1TA.twitter

    “Garofalo, though, could not resist making a jab at Cruise’s Scientology background, especially only one month after the release of “Going Clear,” HBO’s documentary on the controversial religion.

    “Thank you, L.R.H. [For Tom Cruise],” joked Garofalo, in reference to Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard.

    “That’s a very inside reference,” Bird responded.

    However, Garofalo disagreed that Scientology gossip was Hollywood insider material at this point.

    “Not really, that documentary … Woo! ‘Going Clear’ — We could talk about that all day,” Garofalo said.

    Bird and Garofalo moved on to other subjects, but the comedic moment suggests that “Going Clear” has put criticisms of Scientology in the public eye.”

    • anonsparrow

      I read this too but didn’t see any related video about it.

    • worstcultever

      J’adore Janeane Garofalo. I can’t imagine her shutting up about Scientology.

    • Frodis73

      How awesome is that? I loved her before this, but now I really do. Finally somebody has the balls to say something to that giant douche.

      • Mymy88

        In the spirit of Leah Remini. We need more woman like them (Garofalo and Rimini). Oh, I just remembered something. Garofalo was on an episode of King of Queens once.

    • Sibs

      I was looking for Tribeca videos earlier. If there is a source I’d love to know.

    • One Human

      IIRC, she has previously been reluctant to speak against C of S..wish I could recall her prior apologist tone.

  • L. Ron Hoover

    Didn’t see this one on the shelves the last time I was at the store.

    • anonsparrow

      They quit carrying it around the same time they stopped selling pop rocks.

    • WindexClear

      It’s just the thing to complement your pink eye!

    • Beth

      Tom – is that you?

      • L. Ron Hoover

        Nope.

    • Golden Age of Kool-Aid.

    • Matt in Atlanta

      Bestest Shoop seen today.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    The Chili man wants to take on Ortega? Really?
    Just remember that this is coming from a man who looks at LRH and sees credibility & integrity, Ha!

    https://twitter.com/Chill_EB/status/592040192053153794
    https://twitter.com/Chill_EB/status/592044101857476608

    • aquaclara

      Someone who tweets can have it. Chill E. B. Is such an idiot.

      • L. C. Spencer

        I’ve been tweeting at him before this, but now I’m laughing so hard I don’t think I could hold my phone.. ohgod. I sort of want Tony to respond in person just for the lulz, but alas, he won’t.

        • One Human

          One never knows where the sly wit of our proprietor will find it’s spot.

    • WindexClear

      Well, he hasn’t read anything but what he’s allowed to see so how he could he have an opinion.

    • Mark

      What a maroon!

    • Unex Skcus

      A twit’s tweets…

    • WindexClear

      I just noticed that he quoted himself. That makes his “observation” so much more official sounding. LOLOL!

    • Beth

      chill e. d.o.u.c.h.e. w.a.d.

      • Mymy88

        Ha ha. That’s a new one on me. I’m stealing.

    • Suzanna Nielsen

      Tweeters……man your torpedos!

      • Making fun of how dumb it is would be better XD
        “Man your cream pies!”

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          But that is so easy ….and he has chin pubes!!!!

          • Okay, you convinced me!
            XD

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              LOL… I just completely deflected from Sciloon madness and linked him to what “I think” was the best thing Tony O. has ever written.
              I seriously loved this more than ANY of the Scientology coverage Tony has ever done.

              (And yeah…I can’t believe I am saying this either)!!!!
              But I am just talking from a writing standpoint so please do not hire a hit-man to kill me.
              😉

              http://www.seattleweekly.com/2012-12-26/news/jason-terry-s-last-shot/

            • Strategery!

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              I read “Art of War”.
              But for fun…not because it was “part of my Hat” as a SeaOgre.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I read it because I know my enemies will have read it.

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Which is always a great and strategic reason.

            • Beth

              love trumps all. the end.

            • I “love” making fun of maroons XD

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Not in WAR…….Winning trumps all.
              But I fell ya………

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Technically, in WAR, aces trump all.

            • Sibs

              Unless you’re playing with the rule where twos beat aces!

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              They can’t all be winners.

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Yes, one of the first books I had to read when I started my skit in CW. Bad mistake. I still have it too.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Jason Terry was on the 2011 Mavericks when they beat the Heat. Good guy.

            • Sid

              Chill should talk to John Travolta about how to make a successful comeback,,, oh wait.

          • Jimmy Threetimes
            • Suzanna Nielsen

              heh heh heh…

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Is LRH responsible for chin pube tech too? Oy! They would at least have been a welcome distraction from those horrible teeth.

              Let’s see, a mouth full of licorice teeth, a cyst, an ascot, a Commodore hat AND chin pubes. Now what more could a Clam gal want?

            • Mymy88

              Don’t forget the rotting teeth. That’s what gets me every time. Hubba hubba. (barf)

            • Mymy88

              Oh, sorry. You did mention the rotten teeth lol.

            • L. C. Spencer

              OMG fucking genius. GENIUS.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I just repeated what Suzanna said. Heh.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Yes, but you did it from that username 🙂

          • Beth

            oh – is that a scientology thing ?

            • Beth

              ewwwwwwww

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Apparently ;-/

    • Phil McKraken

      Chill’s locution is very Shermanesque. Is Int supplying his Twitter bon mots? Does Chill E.B. even exist? Or is he just another nom de plume for the owner of Scientology.

      • worstcultever

        Shill is definitely channeling Slappy La Pouw.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        The other day he was calling someone he was tweeting “mate”. I did a double take. Don’t hear many American rappers saying that. I started to wonder if he had “help” managing his tweets.

        • Phil McKraken

          Sounds like something an Aussie would say. Is Rinder moonlighting?

      • One Human

        Numpt E. B.

    • Harmless Weirdo

      I suspect we pay more attention to him than anyone else, be they in Scientology or not. I can see why he’d want to keep that going, even if it means settling for bemused mockery.

      • flyonthewall

        He has a persecution complex. I had this back n forth w/him on twitter that went way too long and he kept saying how me and my “peeps” had a plan to twitter bomb him and we’re all ganging up on him so he’s ready for us etc etc

        • No one has paid this much attention to him since nineteen-eighty . . . ever!
          ETA: And I’m already bored of it. NEXT!

          • flyonthewall

            I’m not a hiphop expert but I’m pretty literate and I have never ever heard of him outside of scientology. I think he’s just really dumb when you get down to it. He couldn’t even get his standard sci insults straight. Called me a “religious zealot”!? It’s like no dude, you’re suppose to call me a bigot! Why do I know your script better than you!?

            • Called me a “religious zealot”!? It’s like no dude, you’re suppose to call me a bigot! Why do I know your script better than you!?

              Best. Fly. Story. Ever!
              XD

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Yeah… I’m going to go ahead and guess that he doesn’t know what ‘zealot’ means.

            • flyonthewall

              He knows he’s suppose to say something like that but wasn’t really sure what. Yeah zealot will do

            • Sibs

              “Zealot” sounds more ecclesiastical religiousness than “bigot”.

            • Commodore H. McCringleberry

              If you mix Zealot and Sellout, you get Zeallout.

        • Sibs

          Is it possible that he has an assistant or staff to handle his twitter account for him?

          • flyonthewall

            God I hope not. How low would you have to sink to end up as Chill EB’s assistant? *shudder*

        • L. C. Spencer

          He’s gone up against Tony personally (at the VV) and muffed it. He can’t confront, so he’s nattering.

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Oh no! All those “imagined enemies!!

          • Mymy88

            Oh no! Not another twitter war! Were all gonna die! lol

        • Mymy88

          Eh, maybe he’ll be lazy and just copy what Kirstie Alley likes to say, “The whole world is a bigot!”

        • Andrea Garner

          I wish I had peeps. I only have standard friends.

      • Mymy88

        Warning, dark tale:
        It’s so disgustingly true I can hardly laugh even though it is really funny. Oooo everybody, we better be watchful less one day, we SP’s are relegated to the history books. Scilons will then triumphantly rule the earth with compassion and understanding, but absolutely no wisdom or common sense.

        Their species will die out quickly after a brief period of scilon civil wars, which came about from scilons accusing each other of being SP’s. Thus their kind (superior Homo Novus) kill themselves off rather quickly and everybody is dead. Way to go Fuckentology! (sporadic sarcasm employed)

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          You are too cute.

          • Mymy88

            Aww thanks Suzanna. I guess I’ll be brave and reveal my real name and post my photo so everyone else will see just how cute. (refresh)

        • MostEthicalPimp

          I truly believe that Scilons would start sec-checking people based on the emeter’s T/A. But of course getting rid of the SP still wouldn’t work. So they would go Full Xenu on the SPs and start to freeze them alive with a glyco-alcohol mixture inorder to trap the Thatens inside those bodies. Please note they wouldn’t care that the process was deadly and painful….

          • Mymy88

            …..

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              XENU story reference.

          • Mymy88

            !!!! (refresh)

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              OMG~

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Fucked up…can’t laugh or like enough………….so^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

    • nukethevolcano

      I think E.B. stands for Epstein Barr. It’s a type of herpes virus.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        The gift that keeps on giving!

      • Commodore H. McCringleberry

        And the race card will get played in 5. . 4. . . 3. . .

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          Seriously……….McCringleberry my Love?…………These mother fuckers would fuck up the race card to the NINES…
          And you know it.
          Oh lordie…I get LRH “do a bunk” shit slamming into my brain just thinking about it.

          • Commodore H. McCringleberry

            There’s a pic I want to post, but I’m pretty sure I’d get a very stern talking to. Let’s just say it involves pics of DiCaprio and SLJ in Django Unchained next to pictures of DM and our boy Chilli.

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              i totally wish you could…but wouldn’t recommend.
              GAH.

            • Commodore H. McCringleberry

              Not enough boxed vodka in the world for that slip up. But you know there’s exactly one reason this guy is kept around, made to feel like he’s “somebody” and paraded around. It’s not because the whales are a fan of sub-par hip hop.

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Oh Fuck YA!!!

          • Commodore H. McCringleberry

            Also, when has their complete inability to do anything right stopped them from doing anything? This would be a fun, fresh little adventure for DM!

        • Nah.

    • Juicer77

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        stealing………..thanks…………;-)

      • Sibs

        That kitty looks like there used to be three popcorn containers in front of it, but the beautiful entheta was so strong that it ate two of them.

      • Mymy88

        Precoius putty tat! I want to kiss that adorable fluff fluff face.

      • Super Power Wogsie

        I’ve been meaning to steal this for some time now…stealing !!

    • Charlieisaferalgod

      “It is my observation rather than an opinion” is odd language to use. Is he afraid to express something and specifically label it as his opinion? Is this a scientology language thing?

      • Captain MustSavage

        It looks to me like he’s suggesting its NOT an opinion, but an observation of fact. Hmmm… is he getting close to a line here?

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          I know, right? Why is he even going there? No one brought T.O. up in a conversation, he just started tweeting about him. SMH

          • Captain MustSavage

            They are clearly feeling the heat. The upcoming launch of Tony’s book may also have something to do with it. Going Clear has sown the seeds of outrage in over 6million people and counting. Tony’s book will land another body blow because Paulette’s story is just so morally repugnant whilst she herself is a sweetheart. Her story has big budget biopic written all over it.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Aight, so our proprietor in no way needs his honor defended, but I couldn’t resist: [F5]

      https://twitter.com/elsie900/status/592165439419056128

    • Captain MustSavage

      Is this in any way libel or defamation??

  • Beth

    to all the Basel protesters – you rock!!!!!

    (my video link got flubbed below)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GCd0OjjCz88

  • ParticleMom

    {“Boston” Org – flourishing and up-tone!}

    It was a beautiful, if chilly, day here in southeastern MA. I decided to check out the temporary home of Scientology in Boston. Well, really in Quincy. How exciting it was to think I might meet the infamous JJ, king of CL spam! Would I be offered a personality test? Would I get a chance to squeeze the cans on an EZ Bake oven? Would I see body routers handing out free tickets to a movie?

    ParticleKid and I devised a plan – he would have an untied shoe to give us a reason to stop in front of the org for a moment. But when we approached the main door, there was no sign of Scientology at all. There was no listing for Scientology on the exterior list of occupants. We stepped into the building anyway – who would question a family looking for a restroom? There was not another thetan is sight.

    Inside, there was a bigger listing of occupants and Scientology was listed – on the third floor. We were not feeling brave enough to venture up, so I snapped a few pictures of the general disrepair of the building.

    Disappointed, we left and continued walking along the main road. We heard someone doing a sound-check and peeked into an open doorway. A very thin, tall man in a shortsleeved button up shirt, tie, and slacks smiled and waved at us. The room was being set up for some kind of meeting. There was no one else in the room.

    A few steps later, signs on the windows informed us that it was indeed the Scientology Life Improvement Center! So ParticleKid commenced “tying” his shoe while I snapped a few pictures. Note the lack of baseboards – not so ideal.

    They hadn’t even taken down the old Hobby Town signage. Through the bent and broken blinds I noticed rows upon rows of boxes from Bridge Publications. Many were marked with the names of the seminars we are too used to seeing on CL. “Knowing Who You Can Trust” “Setting and Achieving Goals” “Parenting Teens and Tweens” and many more.

    And the photos – including some of the neighbors:

    • ParticleMom

      And the neighbors (refresh)

      • ParticleMom

        Oops, I missed the best one of the Life Improvement Center interior (refresh)

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          Doesn’t look very positive……………..

          • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

            No ppl, and bare, bare, luv it

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Gazing on that I feel so… improved…

      • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

        I love the Christian Science reading room just across the street. Maybe the org staff can commiserate with the Christian Science librarians and pretend to give each other business to raise each other’s stats.

    • Suzanna Nielsen

      Particle Mom………I just want to say your Particle camera reflections are fabulous.
      As is the pathetic state of affairs of Scientology.

      WEeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHHHHHHHHHHHH!

      For clarification bunkerites…….I am NOT drunk yet. 😉

      • ParticleMom

        I know, the reflections are awful. The sun was in the worst possible location for photos.

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          I thought they were awesome.
          Xenu says HI!!!

          • ParticleMom

            You can see the entire ParticleFamily, that is something 😉

            ParticleKid was going to do a “2 thumbs down” pose in front of the place, but he chickened out.

      • Sibs

        Hey, I’m drinking too!

        I somehow got it into my head that it would be a good idea to pick up dinner and alcohol and go home and successfully draw out a lighting plot. My drawing skills are awful so I’m taking a break and dropping by the Bunker instead.

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          Good. They expect me to be drunk. I am my most verbose when I am three sheets to the wind.
          But Alas,,,,,,….i am going slow tonight……..
          But I may change my mind.
          I have one more bottle of Dee’s Tinto juice.

          Oh shit………..I am fucked.;-)

          • Commodore H. McCringleberry

            May I ask about what Tinto juice is? Sounds interesting. In my area, they just started selling vodka in a box, like wine. 3.5L, but it has to have two bags and two pour spouts to get around the laws saying 1.75L is the maximum bottle size for liquor. I call it Innovation!

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Well, I am a Porto wine fan. And my lovely DEE found some Tinto grape wine…somewhere.
              Anyway,.. If I recall correctly…The TINTO grape is one used in Port.
              Which is usually a SWEET thing I like…………;-)

            • Commodore H. McCringleberry

              It’s good stuff, for sure, but after a few experiences, I tend to look at it like a bottle full of brain thunder the next day. . . Have fun!

            • Super Power Wogsie

              The Marco Negri Moscato D’ Asti wine is REALLY good too, and it’s really sweet as well. It goes great with crepes and/or chocolate covered strawberries.

          • Andrea Garner

            Suz, send me to bed. As you know, we got back from a couple of days semi-professional partying in Naples an hour ago and I’m so tired I don’t have the strength to pick up my toothbrush but I was suffering Bunker withdrawal.

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              Go to bed!
              Is that bossy enough?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Don’t listen to her. I just got here to.

            • Andrea Garner

              She’s so bossy. I would be shaking my head if I weren’t so scared she’d tell me off and nick my flip-flops!

            • One Human

              I had to confront a then unknown System of a Down for my flip-flops, Had no idea the DAMN IT I would feel later.

      • How ’bout now?
        ;D

    • Simi Valley

      Good job, PM … that place is a palace compared to the Chicago org … which looks like this now.

      • JMasiulewicz

        I will be back visiting my beloved hometown of Chicago at the end of May. Definitely need to have a picture taken of myself in front of my favorite window.

        • Simi Valley

          This shot is of the back door of the Chi org.

      • Sibs

        Ah yes, the barf insulation. Or maybe it’s THE BLOB!!!!!!!! OOZING THROUGH THE CRACKS TO SWALLOW US ALL TO DEATH UNTIL SOMEONE CARTS IT OFF TO THE NORTH POLE!

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          It looks like they used Cheez Wiz to caulk the windows. Yuck!

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Clay Demo of a window frame.

        • Mymy88

          Dam! I just said almost the same thing! Now I’m going to have to delete my post since you said it first! Grrr. I hate when that happens. lol

      • ParticleMom

        It looks like rotting meat. That is repulsive.

      • OT craftmanship XD

      • Mymy88

        Looks like a scene from the movie “Attack of the Blob”. Yuck.

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          Or the mood slime from Ghostbusters II.

          • Mymy88

            Eww please stop. I’m eating now, trying too lol.

    • Fred G. Haseney

      ParticleMom and ParticleKid, how long have you been handling “Boston/Quincy Field Operations”? What a terrific job… and pictures, too. I handle “Los Angeles Field Operations”: yesterday, I visited the late Mary Sue Hubbard’s house in the Los Feliz district and found that Celebrity Centre International has unleashed a marketing campaign targeting that most affluent neighborhood:

      https://jennyatlax.wordpress.com/2015/04/25/scientology-after-going-clear-los-angeles-field-operations-april-24-2015/

      • ParticleMom

        Thanks, this was my first time in “Field Ops.” I hope to get to the Delphi Academy in Milton one of these days.

        • Fred G. Haseney

          An appropriate acknowledgment for “Field Ops” in Boston/Quincy would be to quote what fellow Bunkerite, MaxSpaceman, wrote about Field Ops in Los Angeles earlier this month:

          “Field Operations by Bunkeroos employing photo tech and posted are the most highly prized.”

    • Mymy88

      Jeeez, what a dump! Especially the pictures with the broken blinds and sign still up from the place before and then their tacky ass signed put up just above them.

    • Andrea Garner

      Completely brilliant 🙂

  • Suzanna Nielsen

    Why so casual. Not the usual protocol?

    • Harmless Weirdo

      That was taken during the sound check. At the actual event, he wore a tie, his hair was poofed up, and his skin was much less pasty and more orange.

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        Thanks for the snort.

      • beauty for ashes

        yeah that seems more normal. pompadour and bronzer tech.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Look like it could be a Richard Hell (circa 1970s) impersonator.
      Refresh

      http://www.rubbercityreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/Richard-and-Bob.jpg

    • He looks like he’s hanging on while thinking about spraying chunks.

      • Sibs

        Hey, now, it’s hard to keep your balance on an apple crate after a bottle or two of Macallan!

    • Super Power Wogsie

      He looks…he looks…he looks stubby????

    • MostEthicalPimp

      I think this photo is more descriptive:

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        TOO CUTE.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      I believe this was his preparation shot. He’s wearing a tie in actual ceremony.

      • Suzanna Nielsen

        I just can’t figure out what he was prepping for?

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        Isn’t it kind of strange that he does his own sound tests? You’d think he would have the AV lackeys do that for him.

        • One Human

          He trusts noone.

  • Sibs

    I finished drawing my plot, so I just chugged my current drink and I’m gonna go to bed before this Cabaret soundtrack gets to the finale. Happy enturbulation!

    • Suzanna Nielsen

      Right behind ya Sibs….If I hurry…I can totally knock myself out…. HA

      • MostEthicalPimp

        You guys are lucky am going to work.

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          Bummer 😉

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        I’ve about had it too, busy day on the net and back is bumming out. Nite for now.

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          Ditto, MA. MUAH!

  • Roy OTalegge

    Six years back in NYC and I went to the Scientology building (after the SP episode.) Went through frickin hours and hours of videos. I was never on the e-meter but I was informed that I had several issues that they could assist me with… I’m notgoing into my life philosophy but I excelled in Trig and I see life as sin & cosin, or a series of ups and downs. “Clear” is a state, I’ve been there, but it’s not permanent. Well I had some questions and explanations, they went from very polite to very offended and asked me to leave. I wish I could remember what I asked. Something about the “permanence” of happiness. Again, no one is happy all the time unless your a gameshow host. Just my opinion.

    Bottomline, I never found the appeal. Had they hit me with the IAS promotional vids of people going around helping while musicians sing “Because we’re the IAS,” at age 18 I might have been more gullible. Who knows. But what’s interesting is you talk to a Scientologists in Clearwater FL and offend them, they apply the crap that I went through in NYC: the “confronts” and whatnot, THAT’S what makes them look so damn cult-like: some chedrool staring you down like Manson with an expression that reads: “I’m not here, man, I’m not here.”

    Each their own. virgin births or body Thetans or Magic underwear, whatever. But abuse of children, the “dumping” of old people (in Clearwater there’s a surplus of elderly that they dump who have no SS and bleed off medicaid) needs to be put to an end.

    • Suzanna Nielsen

      While you are slightly incoherent…We got it…
      And you are right. It is FUCKED….Pure and simple.
      FUCKED.

      • Judith Sylvester

        “It is FUCKED.” Yeah. Another summary. In fact, we could just skip the whole blog. 3 words. That’s it.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      “no one is happy all the time unless your a gameshow host”

      I don’t know why, but I love this line.

      • I wish I could — but there’s a grammar error 🙁

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Ignore that. Pretend its not they’re.

          • You all realize that protracted conversations regarding standard punctuation is like sweet ambrosia to me — right?
            I’m totally milking it right now.
            XD

        • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

          Give the new guy a break, eh?

          • I’m just kidding around 😉

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Good, only he may not know that.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Nat is just sensitive about grammar. She hit me once over a misplaced comma. And she teases me about my double spacing habit.

            • Suzanna Nielsen

              She is rough!!!

            • My favorite backhanded compliment from a student was “Ms. M, you be making us do WORK like every day!

            • Kay

              I was raised by a Mom who was an English teacher. We had a dictionary and thesaurus on the dinner table, and if we made grammatical errors or word usage errors, we did not get dessert. Games of scrabble were so serious that we would yell at each other until we approached physical violence. You remind me of living with my Mom, which actually is a good thing. She would have laughed her head off at your posts, as do I.

            • 🙂

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              My sister and I used to get into verbal arguments during scrabble matches that were serious enough that we agreed to never play each other again. No joke. They were more like chess matches. We both guarded our S and blank tiles, traded often for bingo shots, and played defensively away from the triple and double squares.

              Competitive scrabble is serious business. If anyone ever wants to play Words With Friends, I’m game. I’ll probably insult you sometime during the match. Fair warning.

            • What person under 50 still double spaces after a sentence?! I just . . . I can’t . . .

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Who has two thumbs, is under 50, and doesn’t give any F’s about double spacing???

              This guy.

              ….just realizing you probably can’t see me pointing to myself because it’s a comment board. Just imagine that I’m pointing to myself with my thumbs.

            • XD

            • Missionary Kid

              Maybe it’s because I’m 70, but I still do, even when I’m working on my tablet, which automatically only adds one space.

            • You get an exemption — anyone of an age that had to use typewriters in school does 🙂
              But he did not!

            • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

              Golly, golly in free, that’s me too, thanks Nat.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I’m telling you, we were taught that in computer keyboarding class. The WWW was still very young at the time, though. The internet was still called “The Information Superhighway,” which even back then sounded cheesy as hell.

            • It did sound cheesy. Lol. I remember thinking that too.

            • Oh, you know I love you, Jimmyboy. Effed up spacing and all. XD

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I’m not a millennial, dammit! You can’t just say you love me and expect me to subscribe to your instatubes chatroom or whatever. Not gonna work on me.

            • *near imperceptibly* millennial

            • Missionary Kid

              You’re a child. Electric typewriters were around just after the turn of the last century, but the IBM Selectric, which pretty much dominated the market wasn’t introduced until 1961.

              I was attending UCSB when ARPNET first was used, and that was after I’d been in the service. I was 24 at the time.

            • Dizzam.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I wrote a paper on ARPANET once. The first internet transmission ever, from UCLA to Stanford, was “lo”. Guy was trying to login, but the system crashed after the l and o. Good thing they worked it out.

            • Missionary Kid

              What? They worked it out? I thought Telexes were the latest in technology. *Laughs*

              For years, I thought that system crash was an integral part of MS DOS and windows. If one bought a new version of a Microsoft product, one became a gamma tester.

            • “I thought that system crash was an integral part of MS DOS and windows”
              True dat.

            • Missionary Kid

              I do it because it makes it easier to see where a sentence ends. If I don’t double space, it almost looks like a part of the previous sentence.

              Yes, I know the difference between a period and a comma, but when one is speed reading, it makes things more comprehensible.

            • *pat pat*

            • ParticleMom

              I’m 39 and had to use typewriters in school. It was a very hard habit to break.

            • Condolences.

            • One Human

              70?
              Really MK, you farking rock!

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ve got the wrinkles to prove it. 🙂

              I’m trying to find a picture of me that was posted here on the Bunker.

            • Is that the one?

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, I’m right behind Tory.

            • I know. Great photo!

            • Missionary Kid
            • Just because your hair is white, doesn’t mean you are 70. Nice try, buddy.

            • Missionary Kid

              My hair is not white! I’m a platinum blonde!

            • Haha! I knew it! 🙂

            • Eivol Ekdal

              Wook at that wittle kiddie face!

            • Missionary Kid

              *Snickersnort*

            • Mymy88

              Oh my gosh, I don’t want to get in trouble, and I don’t mean any offence, but that guy on the left reminds me so much of Dale Gribble from ‘King of the Hill’. And so now you’re going to tell me he’s one of the big time ex-$cien’s, right? Because if he is, I’m going to delete this O_o

              Am I being too bad? Do I need to start walking toward my doghouse?

            • Nah, you are cool. It is Dale.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m going to try to post a picture of myself. Here goes:

            • Missionary Kid
            • Mymy88

              Ha ha, that’s a look of supreme satisfaction bordering on breaking out into a shit eating grin! What did you do just before that picture? Inquiring minds want to know lol.

            • Missionary Kid

              I believe I’d just seen Going Clear.

            • beauty for ashes

              I do, I didn’t even know. I have to say though it’s always good to have people of various talents in your circle. I’m sure that Nat would also generously help you proofread a paper or script or your police statement. 😉 It’s painful Nat I know, sometimes I really want to fix people’s eyebrows while watching a movie. It’s like tetris brain.

            • noseinabk

              Good god. You hit on all my shortcomings in one comment. I suck at this two finger posting and predictive text keyboard crap AND have to deal with invisible blond eyebrows. *pouting *
              At least I have learned how to fix the eyebrow thing (use a lash tint brush) and will just need to make sure my next tablet has a real keyboard.

            • beauty for ashes

              If you go to a beauty supply, you can also buy lash/eyebrow dye. It’s pretty simple to use. Although I kind of love blond eyebrows, its a really hard look to rock.:)
              And I feel for you, my phone has a keyboard, I can’t deal with typing on screens.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              This guy. Like it? No? Too bad.

            • It’s an epidemic of anachronism!

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Face it, Nat. You are losing the double space war. Concede, and spare yourself the Secret Space Bar Torture you will surely face as a PoW.

            • Never! My robot army will always single space (in consideration of readability, aesthetics, and downright decency) as well as obey every other whim I program into them! BWAHHAAAHAAHAAA!
              *has coughing fit then clears throat and smooths skirt*

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I just realized the true sign that we are meant to double space. Typing on an Android device, it you double space after a word, it adds the period automagically.

            • It’s just saving you from yourself.

            • One Human

              Have you considered your value to DM, you know, with semi-colons and such.
              JK!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’m thinking of triple spacing now. Seems like that would be right up your alley, Mr. Threetimes. How’s it look? Too much? I kind of like it myself.

            • Disqus fixed it and removed the EXTRA spaces! Nice try B-plug!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Lame! It looked wonderful in the preview window. Too bad.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Damn, I like that idea. Hell, I’ll change my name to Jimmy Twelvetimes and send Nat emails with massive floods of spaces. Why stop at the end of sentences, too? It would improve readability if you put more spaces between words, too.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              If you insert too many spaces, we’ll all have to read posts like Shatner.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              That…. Would be…

              Hilarious.

            • No. No, it would not.

            • Mymy88

              LMAO!

            • I’m changing my email.

            • coonellie

              The entire nation of France, unfortunately.

            • Talk about rabid prescriptivism! France cannot be beat. Remember that big “Le weekend” debacle?

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              I do. It’s proper. I guess I missed the super secret memo that said it was no longer necessary!

            • Enturbulated Masterbator

              Well, shiver me timbers. I stand corrected.

              Now onto one of my recent annoyances. Mostly done verbally but it really hocks me off. That is the extra “had” when using past tense. Such as “I had gone to the store” or “She had told us” or “He had come for a visit”. Why not “I went to the store” or “She told us” or “He came for a visit”? Ok, now that’s off my chest. Notice I didn’t write “off of my chest” — don’t get me started on that.

            • Mymy88

              OH oh. I hope she doesn’t have a hate thing for dangling participles. I excel at those. I just like them. What can I say? lol

            • You can get away with almost anything with me as long as you chalk it up to voice and remain consistent. I only care about mistakes that interfere with meaning or flow. Two spaces after a sentence? Disruption of flow.

            • Mymy88

              Whew. No worries for me then. I’m consistent. I mean c’mon, which sentence sounds better? “That’s all I could think of.” OR That’s all for which I could think? lol.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              I’m trying to come up with a nifty play on 50 shades of grey, but squeezing punctuation in there…..got any ideas.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              50 Spaces of Yay?
              I really got nothin.

          • Suzanna Nielsen

            Never, Ma…never…;-)

        • Suzanna Nielsen

          You are,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,You are…………..You are…………..!!!

        • romanesco

          Prescriptivist. Don’t you know an intentional colloquialism when you see it?

          • Stop. You know as well as I how to spot the difference between style choices and unintentional errors. I won’t say anything more to you about the matter.

            • romanesco

              Are you being funny? Can you spot irony?

      • Judith Sylvester

        Yes it’s a great line. But even better, is the point that any elevated state of mind, “clear”, or happiness, or deep satisfaction, is only momentary. Other things come after that, and then if one is lucky, and working, and loving, one can experience that positive state of mind again, momentarily. Scientology wants to deny this, and sells this idea since we all want it, that this state of mind can exist permanently, and we can outwit death too.

        • Missionary Kid

          Indeed, their technique is to tell you how you’re fucked up (which may or may not be accurate), then tell you, “$cientology can help you with that.”

      • One Human

        Ray Colmes(?) might disagree.

    • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

      Absolutely Roy. thanks for speaking out.

    • Are_sics

      But… to be fair…. “clear” is not a state. At least not by any of the various definitions or indicators Hubbard used for it.

      • Roy OTalegge

        You’ll have to forgive me, I guess I don’tproperly know LRH’s definition of Clear. I also don’t get why the term “tech” is thrown around so much… But from what I understand, Clear is a state of permanent happiness after all bad thoughts are removed? (I’m new to the world of Scientology discussion so bare with me.) Thanks for the response.

        • Are_sics

          Hubbard didn’t primarily write concise definitions (though he did write one, later, which depended on defining “clear” in terms of something else undefined). Early, he wrote that when you reached “clear” you’d have an IQ that would increase 20 points suddenly, you’d have perfect recall of everything that’s ever happened (except what color tie he was wearing if he presented you in public as a clear), that you’d be able to throw away your eyeglasses…..

          He ended up with something like “a clear is someone without a reactive mind”; which is not immediately falsifiable, at least. But he watched all of his earlier versions get falsified, so he had to do something.

          Scientology is worse than you think, as they say around here. It’s also worse in very specific ways.

          • It’s clearly obvious you have a deep hold on this subject, so I thank you for taking the time to explain this to me… But from a timid observer: the idea of “clear,” the “reactive mind,” all that, seems, in its most fundamental way, as a “state of perfection without illness or emotional issues.” So the goal is to be a total state of perfection non-bothered from external factors. It’s a crying a shame Scientology’s largest victims didn’t read Be A Perfect Person In Just Three Days by Stephen Manes. Helluva lot cheaper than Hubbard’s books and they would have learned the obvious… Thanks again, A.S.

  • noseinabk

    Anyone know if Sylvia Stanard ( DC org and failed spokeshole) is OSA?

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Has a video of Short Stack’s speech been posted yet?

    • Super Power Wogsie

      Not a video that I’ve come across yet. Anyone else?

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I dunno. I was waiting to play the drinking game with it, but grew impatient, so I just started saying “moreover” and “hence” myself. Shots shots shots shotshotsshotshsots

      • Don’t add “and so on” or you’ll get alcohol poisoning.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          I love that you’re always looking out for me, but moreover, I love that…
          Hold on.

          • Oh, dear.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            “case in point” is a good one too.

            • What are you doing? Trying to kill him?!

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Missionary Kid are you still here? Do you have the list?

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m just checking in. Which one?

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              The DM drinking game list.

            • Missionary Kid

              Words Used by David Mi$cavige for a Drinking Game
              Absolute certainty
              Accordingly
              And so
              And yes, that’s….
              As such
              By way of example
              Hence
              history of mankind
              In a nutshell
              in fact
              In point of fact
              In totality,
              Likewise
              Moreover
              No less than
              Notwithstanding
              Obliterate
              orders of magnatude
              overwhelming
              present moment in time
              Rather
              Similarly
              Stratospheric
              The gist
              The matter at hand
              The nub
              Thereafter and in sequence
              thereupon
              Therin
              Thus
              to sum up
              unprecedented
              Vaporize
              Vis-A-Vis
              Wherein
              Whereupon
              with which

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Yes. Thank you.
              But you have to fix ‘orders of magnitude’ and ‘therein’ or people won’t get as durbkk as they should.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks. Refresh to see my edit.

    • One Human

      My prediction was shorter speech than a Tyson fight.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        And if something goes wrong, an equal chance of biting someones ear off.

        • One Human

          Or at least a kneecap.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Just came back from seeing Ex Machina. At one point, the female AI does a creepy stare right out of the TR playbook.

    PS, I want a robot girlfriend now…

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      You just now starting wanting a female girlfriend? Rookie.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        I gotta stop playing. I’ll sit on the bench for a minute or two.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        I would date that robot. She rocks.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Yep, just like that.

      • Mymy88

        Oh my gosh. That’s the very first time I saw the scilon creepy eyed stare thing. Wow.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?May I help you?
          May I help you?
          May I help you?

          May I help you?

          May I help you?

          (refresh)

          • Mymy88

            WOW! When I see people with a look like that on their face, I know that usually it’s due to some kind of handicap or disability, or some kind of drug effect.

            She would not qualify for that category because she was “trained” to do that. Shit. If she ever walked up to me and said anything, I’d just bug my eyes out and very mockingly, lean into her, intensely staring in her eyes and saying nothing, but have a distorted expression on my face while I’m doing it. I wonder if she would get the hint that she’s not freaking me out, I’m on to her game, and I think it is beyond absurdity that she thinks that space cadet stare would intimidate anybody.

            Your repeated “May I help you?” reminded me of that video posted here earlier today of that guy that was an atheist that went into a $cien Center just to see. He said the same thing. They just kept saying the same things over and over no matter what he tried to say to get them to back off. LOL

          • nukethevolcano

            “Yes you may. You could start by bringing me some lunch.”

          • Mymy88

            DDD – OMG, that “the shit” shoop thread you started… I joked about having a walker and having paranoia syndrome. I just made that up. I didn’t even know there was something with that name. That guy took me seriously! And then he posted all about his mental stuff! Yikes! I should have put (j/k). I think I’ll just reply to him and say, “well sometimes I have severe panic attacks (that’s true) and I have found medication is extremely helpful also. I’ve heard that severe panic attacks is not really classified as Paranoia disorder that often, but it really just depends on which doctor you see”. How does that sound?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Honesty is the best policy. Just say you were kidding and express your sympathies for his condition.

              Bear in mind that many people who have been “in” do not have a strong sense of discernment when it comes to jokes. They take everything fairly literally.

            • Mymy88

              Gah. For a while there, I was really good at always noting things like that on my posts (sarcasm whatever), but lately I just got out of the habit. I’m SO glad you told me that. Should I send him my reply (be honest) privately?

    • Baby

      [img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/Ghelyon.gif

      • Mymy88

        Smoking Baby, what you need is a smoking dog lol.

  • Enturbulated Masterbator

    Tony, can you clarify if Paulette Cooper will be at both the Hollywood & OC? The way I read it she will be at the OC event only.

    • Tony Ortega

      She’ll definitely be in Hollywood, and I keep telling her she’s going to the Costa Mesa event too and she keeps saying, what’s a Costa Mesa? So I’ll do my best.

      • Missionary Kid

        If a venue can be found in San Diego, will she be appearing there, too?

        • Tony Ortega

          I think so.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Are you going to be in Toronto, or appearing via Skype?

            • Tony Ortega

              In the flesh.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              No. No, no, no. Please, wear clothes. You don’t want to end up in a Canadian jail. They’re annoyingly polite in Canadian jails.

          • One Human

            I have’nt said it yet, but thank you for making Paulette your subject of first book!

      • romanesco

        Maybe she’ll be enticed if you tell her it’s a beach table.

      • Super Power Wogsie

        Awwwww. I used to live in Costa Mesa. Don’t forget to visit the Segerstrom Hall if you get a chance. Huntington Beach is also just ten min away, and there is a great seafood restaurant called The Boiling Crab near South Coast Plaza Mall that I highly recommend if you plan on eating dinner. I’m so jealous I won’t be able to see you guys there!!! They also have an Italian restaurant called Maggiano’s that I hear is really great too.

  • One Human

    We need more Neurotology promos!

  • That conference line-up is awesome (a word I use rarely)!

    And Basel was a good demo. My pictures start at https://www.flickr.com/photos/jensting/17085345050/in/set-72157622499631193

  • Happy to see you back, Baby!

    • Super Power Wogsie

      We see you Baby! : )

  • Has anyone seen this article about the church in Brooklyn? Is it a parody?
    http://www.newyorker.com.clonezone.link/clearing-the-l-train

    • Tony Ortega

      Another sad example of the New Yorker’s unfortunate foray into satire. And here I thought Borowitz was tired.

    • Parody.

      • Frodis73

        I bet that John Alex Wood guy will be tweeting this as soon as he reads it.

        • Hahaha! Probably. Who cares about the last goofy sentence.

  • valshifter

    “Hello Miscarriage” LOL a deserved welcome, I wonder if he took a peek at that cardboard sign.

  • Kenny C.

    Godspeed Jon. Thanks for all you’ve done.

  • Super Power Wogsie

    Magoo at the testing center in Hollywood. Maybe someone can repost in the morning.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=382rsmoth5c

    • Frodis73

      Tory is so fearless. I just adore her.

      • Super Power Wogsie

        I just want that young gentleman to wake up and get out of there. I really hope she gets through to him one day. He seems like a good kid.

      • Missionary Kid

        Notice that the guy stood in the doorway. The rest of the $cientologist body routers slip in and out. I’ve seen her clear a sidewalk of body routers by just showing up.

    • I love Tory.

      • Super Power Wogsie

        Tory is the epitome of fearlessness, badassery, and cuteness wrapped in a Magoo package : )
        I adore her to the end of the Milky Way.

        • Well put! She invented Vikings and taught Chuck Norris.

  • Paulette Cooper joined ESMB yesterday! http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?39270-I-wrote-quot-The-Scandal-of-Scientology-quot&p=1030602&viewfull=1#post1030602 “I wrote “The Scandal of Scientology…”

    Hi there — I’ve started reading this forum and have found some interesting posts that I’ve missed elsewhere (I read tony ortega’s blog regularly). I’m not an Ex-Scientologist but I am an SP so hopefully I will still be allowed to stay here. ~ Paulette”

  • JB

    I’m totally opposed to $cientology, but admit that I’m beginning to get bored of the same old stories from people talking about stupid they were for years and years while in the cult. The only ones I feel have an excuse for being stuck in it for a long time are the ones who were born into it, or were taken in by their parents when they were children, and didn’t have the financial or other means to escape. People who joined as adults, spent all or most of their money before realizing they were being duped, I have no sympathy for since they spent their energy trying to dupe other people into giving their money to the cult.

  • Pierrot

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    Good morning Early Birds and Night Owls,
    Yesterday’s removal was much better with Seattle leading the way, followed by Sac, LA and SFBay.

    It looks like one can vote daily: Vote NO (historical classification) for the Maryland narconon Trout Farm: http://www.fredericknewspost.com/news/news_regular_features/daily_poll/does-the-trout-run-retreat-deserve-a-historic-designation/poll_80093ddd-6971-5e62-9bad-d908a1ff4bad.html
    Complain to CL about Boston Spamming: http://tonyortega.org/2015/04/20/hear-the-full-police-interview-of-scientology-spy-daniel-powell-about-stalking-ron-miscavige-sr/#comment-1978358948

    RedX tips : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-119#post-2525027
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  • MostEthicalPimp

    Since nothing else is going on…
    Hey @DodoTheLaser:disqus

    Did you see brick girl’s video?? Reposted ten hours down. What do think Your name came up when it was first posted.
    transcipt.
    MostEthicalPimp Mark • 19 hours ago

    Am guessing she’s from gold. Tell her if she puts down the brick is over 18 and needs a place to stay in Los Angles to give me a call..

    Dawn G to MostEthicalPimp • 19 hours ago

    I thought it was only Dodo who got distracted by breasts. 😉

    MostEthicalPimp to Dawn G • 19 hours ago

    me and Dodo must have similar BTs. I’ll have to ask him if he’d host her in Europe…
    Also, am just putting this out there am not married to any boob size…

    NOLAGirl to MostEthicalPimp • 19 hours ago

    You might want to give that some thought. LOL You’d have to sleep with one eye open with her around.4

    MostEthicalPimp to NOLAGirl • 19 hours ago

    I’ve done it before

    • This is confusing on so many levels. I do get distracted by breasts though. Must be a curse.

    • Mymy88

      Now, you know, don’t you? That I see, yes, I see that in the very wee early hours in the morning, when you guys think no one is around, you always start talking about boobs! You are naughty boys. I’m going to send in a KR somewhere. I don’t know where yet, but I’ll think of something lol.

  • Mymy88

    Title: Why Scientology is coming to Frederick, and why there’s nothing the County Council can do about it

    Snip: “Is Scientology a dubious “religion”; does it have questionable practices involving bullying and coercion within a cult-like atmosphere?

    Is Narconon, a Scientology-affiliated drug and alcohol rehab program, widely disputed as unscientific? Is it criticized as a front to recruit vulnerable people to Scientology, with little success in credibly treating
    addiction?

    Yes.”

    http://www.fredericknewspost.com/opinion/editorial/why-scientology-is-coming-to-frederick-and-why-there-s/article_3af18b94-76f3-5218-8113-1168d3a8cea8.html

    • Juicer77

      One thing that gets lost in this whole discussion is that IMHO this property does NOT deserve historical status for any reason. It’s just not worthy of the designation when there are other much more historic and significant properties that need care and repair. I’ve been predicting the historic vote will end with approval – at that point the gloves come off and all eyes will be on NarCONon. It will NOT be pretty. That I promise you.

      • Mymy88

        Please pass the popcorn.

  • Jenny Lee de Becker

    Imagine a future beyond Thursday 2pm……
    For every warrior of truth like Mr. Atack who moves into new areas in their lives I do hope another 10 ex-scientologists will consider stepping forward. Please consider telling your stories if you haven’t done so yet. I understand the need for some to want to continue to retain their annonyminity but please do consider that the time to make yourself known has never been better. When the real face of a person telling their story is shown, the power of that story increases ten-fold. Remember that is why we know how so many teenagers spent their years during WWII all because of a girl named as Anne Frank, and her face is just as well known as her name and most importantly that DIARY. Please do consider this. If you can find a way to tell your story please do so.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I will tell my story. I think it is time…

      Every year, as the calendar approaches Easter, the stores begin selling the Reese Peanut Butter Eggs. Now, please know, I don’t have much of a sweet tooth. My crutch is made of the salty and the savory. Sweets are a rare delight.

      But, every year, sometime after Easter, I gather up all these peanut butter eggs I’ve found. Mind you, these are merely fat clumps of chemical-ridden peanut butter shaped in the form of an… I don’t really know. They’re not eggs. They don’t even look like eggs. They’re just big chunks of stuff that is really bad for you, and they’re dipped in a layer of chemical-ridden chocolate that is probably even worse for you. It’s good.

      Anyway, once a year, I board my dogs at a local kennel. I know they’re taken care of. The people there treat them like the good doggies they are. I put on my best three-piece suit, the one that was handed down to me by a hobo my father once befriended. I microwave a bottle of frozen Cabernet. I dunno what year, but it’s sold at CVS. I tuck a napkin in my collar, and I sit down to enjoy an entire plate of Reese Peanut Butter Eggs. Knife and fork, imaginary butler, the works.

      Later on, I cry myself to sleep. Not just because I miss my doggies, or that I’m so lonely that I eat Reese’s by myself… but because the Reese’s Eggs are all gone. Why have they gone? Why?

      I suppose I will never know.

      • Hobo suit. lol.

      • Jenny Lee de Becker

        ha ha ha ha ha I think you “audited” them out of existence too efficiently!

  • BosonStark
  • MaxSpaceman

    re: David Miscavige growing up in Philly/So.Jersey and the 15 story Idle Morgue that Sciloonacy hopes to open sometime in the 21st century.

    “The church told the Daily News that about 10,000 Scientologists live in the Philadelphia/New Jersey area.” — yeah, right- are there even 10,000 in all of Los Angeles anymore? Including the few thousand Sea Borg that must be “stationed” in L.A. ?

    http://articles.philly.com/2012-01-03/news/30583520_1_david-miscavige-scientology-lrh [posted some hours ago downthread]

    • MostEthicalPimp

      I doubt it. If you realize that 10% of 10,000 is 1,000. I don’t think that many cars could park at the blue complex. So I doubt they have anyware near that number!

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Tick Tock

  • Tory Christman

    Thanks, Tony! FTR: “Tory Christman, former OSA agent (and brilliant speaker).” First off, I was never an “OSA Agent”. I volunteered for OSA off and on, as a public (not a staff member. Their agents are Sea Org members).

    Secondly, I appreciate the compliment “brilliant speaker” … I try to educate people in a light way about this very dark subject. I’ve created over 700 videos at ToryMagoo44 on YouTube, helping explain many of the darker sides of $cientology that I am familiar with.

    Lastly, I’d love to come meet with all of these wonderful people. If I can’t come physically, I’m happy to SKYPE or make a video…..but my ~hope~ is that I can and will be there in person. 🙂 Tory/Magoo

  • Mockingbird

    This is a day or so late but I want to give my strongest support and recommendation possible to the conference and people putting it together . I encourage anyone who can to attend . This is a once in a lifetime opportunity .

    A meeting of like minds educated on and critical of Scientology has never been organized like this and quite likely never will again . Attend if you can and support it in any and every way possible .

  • Monica Pignotti

    It would be helpful if the conference organizers would disclose in advance of people signing up for this conference and making the considerable financial investment it takes most people to travel to Toronto and attend the conference, which of these speakers will actually be there in person and which will only be available by Skype or video.

  • Dee

    I have to say, I share concerns about this conference, as much as I am fascinated by this topic, would like to attend, and admire so many of the people who may be there.

    Here are my three concerns. I hope the organizers will address these for the benefit of everyone interested in the conference.

    (1) Was it announced before the middle/end of April, 2015? Because most conferences – certainly academic conferences and also non-academic conferences that bill themselves as huge – are planned and promoted many months to a year or more in advance. Why only two months before, considering the flight, travel, and accommodation costs of participants?

    (2) Why is the website for the conference so bare-bones and even self-contradictory? (http://gettingclear.co/index.html)
    As of May 4, 2015, the website:
    (a) > states, “The schedule will be released shortly. Additional speakers being arranged.” SIX WEEKS BEFORE the Conference — no schedule?? We should surely be informed of the events that are planned for a conference that we pay hundreds of dollars to attend.
    (b) > offers confusing/contradictory information about the price, “Details will be posted shortly on costs per session and for the whole conference,” whereas in another locations states, “$350 USA for all five days $75 per day.” Elsewhere this has been billed as a “reduced price.” I don’t think $350 for a four-five day conference is excessive, but surely the organizers could have — and should have — planned the pricing well in advance of the conference.
    (c) > is unclear about the kind and level of participants currently billed to be involved: The website states that these people “will be available.” What does this mean? We’re told they’ll “be available” in person, by Skype, or by video. But are they presenting? If so, what are they presenting? What does “will be available” mean?
    (d) > says that Tyndale University is **hosting** the conference. An important distinction, because Tyndale University emphasizes that it is not **sponsoring** the conference.

    An international conference on engaging various critical perspectives on Scientology is certainly a great idea. Why, though, does this particular conference appear to have bene slapped together at the last minute?

    If the organizers address these concerns, maybe more people will be willing to put down the money to attend, buy flights, and find accommodations. I certainly would be more likely to attend if I knew what I was actually paying for.