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First time in full: 1997 interview of Barbara Klowden, L. Ron Hubbard’s PR agent and lover

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Here’s the second leak of raw footage from the excellent 1997 Channel 4 documentary, Secret Lives — L. Ron Hubbard. The film was made up of numerous interviews from people who had known Hubbard personally. But only a few minutes of each made it into the final documentary.

Jon Atack hooked us up with a source who is now making the full, uncut interviews from Secret Lives available. Last time, we got to see Hubbard’s literary agent, Forrest Ackerman, reminisce about the man. And this time, another rare treat: A 28-minute interview with Barbara Klowden, who worked as Hubbard’s PR assistant but was also his lover. (In Russell Miller’s 1987 biography of Hubbard, Bare-Faced Messiah, Barbara is given the pseudonym “Barbara Kaye.”)

In 1950, with the success of Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, Hubbard interviewed Barbara and hired her to work public relations for the newly opened Hubbard Dianetic Research Foundation in Los Angeles. As she explains in the clip, it was her job to fire off responses to columnists who said negative things about Hubbard or his book. She was 23 and had been a college psychology major (not, apparently, only 20 years old as previous accounts have it). Hubbard was 39, and his marriage to his second wife, Sara Northrup, was strained. Hubbard and Sara were already living apart.

Meanwhile, Hubbard had taken a liking to his young PR assistant, and they began sleeping together and then Hubbard wanted them to move in together. But that became dicey when Sara, baby Alexis in tow, showed up on the scene again.

The interviewer asks Barbara what attracted her to Hubbard, and she acknowledges that the founder of Scientology was not a physical specimen. “It’s the mind of the man that is most sexy,” she explains. “I felt so much under his spell.”

She says that at the time, she didn’t know about Hubbard’s first marriage and the two children he’d had with Polly Grubb. And because Hubbard was separated from Sara, Barbara didn’t think it was unusual that he asked her to move in with him — at the Chateau Marmont. But Sara soon arrived, and Barbara found the things she’d put in the apartment back on her desk at the Foundation.

Amazingly, Hubbard asked her to join him and Sara at dinner that night, and he told her later that Sara had made a suicide attempt. Barbara says she then received a telegram from Hubbard firing her.

Some other highlights from the interview: Hubbard told her that before he wrote Dianetics, he’d taken just one book out of the library to learn about psychology.

— “He talked about smashing his way into history, and starting a religion,” she says. “I saw him as a very unstable individual.”

— When she saw him in Palm Springs in 1951, he was depressed and suffering from a terrible case of writer’s block. She told him to write how he was feeling, and Hubbard wrote a single word: “apathy.” That seemed to inspire him, and he used “apathy” as a condition on what became the Tone Scale and then developed into his book Science of Survival.

— Hubbard discovered that while he was having an affair with Barbara, his wife Sara was sleeping with Miles Hollister (who she later married), and the two of them, Hubbard said, were plotting to have him committed to a mental institution. It was at that point that Hubbard absconded with Alexis and spent some time hiding out in Havana while Sara told the press about how unstable her famous husband was. Eventually she got Alexis back as she and Hubbard hammered out a divorce.

— After that mess, Barbara met Hubbard again in Wichita, where she says he was in another depressive state, with hair down to his shoulders and “fingernails like talons.”

— In Wichita, Hubbard was living with Don Purcell, a wealthy oil man, who was keeping Dianetics afloat. Hubbard proposed to Barbara, and paid cash for an engagement ring. But Barbara didn’t marry him. “I saw that I had a man there who had no prospects. He had psychiatric difficulties,” she says.

And how would she sum him up? Aware of the controversies that later swirled around the man and his organization, she says, “He was not a demon and he wasn’t a deity. He was a man with some psychiatric problems which led him to try to find some kind of way of dealing with his problems without going to a psychiatrist. And because of his quest to help himself, he was able to help many people.”

 

 
After her adventures with Hubbard, Barbara Jane Klowden (born January 23, 1927 and originally from Chicago) married Robert M. Snader, who was Hubbard’s age and had been born in 1911. In 1960 the Snaders had a daughter, Amy Beth, who went on to get a degree in computer science at UC Santa Cruz in 1983. Eight years later, in 1991, Amy Beth Snader accidentally fell to her death from a cliff in Kauai while on a biology field trip with a group from Cabrillo College. Her parents established a scholarship fund in her name at UCSC, and after Barbara died of cancer on November 25, 2002, her estate donated $1 million to the Amy Beth Snader scholarship fund, which goes to women in engineering at UCSC.

There’s one other detail about Barbara’s life that’s a little fascinating — just weeks after her death, a story in the Los Angeles Times called her a “former paramour” of the popular astrologer Sydney Omarr. (At some point Barbara and Robert Snader had divorced, according to an online record. Omarr dedicated a chapter to Barbara in a 1992 astrology book.) One thing’s for certain, Barbara Jane Klowden Snader lived a fascinating life, tinged with tragedy, and left behind a legacy that continues to benefit women in engineering today. She, at least, made a lasting contribution to science. (And yes, that’s a swipe at a certain science fiction hack.)

 
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L. Ron Hubbard, Still Surfing the Galaxy

Twenty-nine years ago today, Lafayette Ronald Hubbard decided to leave behind his hale and healthy 74-year-old body in order to pursue indescribably advanced research into the “whole track” of existence, and has been surfing the galaxy ever since.

It then fell to Scientology naval space cadets David Miscavige and Pat Broeker, and attorney Earle Cooley to try and convince a crowd of Scientologists at the Hollywood Palladium three days later that Ron didn’t die, he’d gone full Operating Thetan.

We never get tired of watching this.

 

 
Wherever you are, L. Ron, we thank you at least for putting David Miscavige in the position to make that speech.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

One of our readers went to the USA Today website yesterday, and found that its home page was taken over entirely by Scientology’s new ad, about its social betterment front groups. Now that’s gotta cost a pretty penny. We still think this is the ad Scientology will show in some markets during the Super Bowl, but if you spot something new at the church’s YouTube channel, let us know!

 
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A little J&D between auditing sessions in the Italian town of Cervia, under the watchful eyes of Aslan! Oh wait, that’s another feline deity altogether.

 
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This is not the first time this has been brought to our attention — that there’s a room at George Washington University dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard, an “alumnus” who dropped out his sophomore year after failing a class in “molecular and atomic physics” (which didn’t prevent him from claiming to be one of the country’s first “nuclear physicists”). Maybe someone at GWU could look into how much cold cash the Church of Scientology had to pay for this little geegaw.

 
HubbardGWU

 
The poster! We gotta snag one of these while we’re here in Park City…

 
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“I just spent about $180,000 to get to the state of Clear, and it makes this pastry at the Fort Harrison Hotel so worth it!”

 
SciSoniaClear

 
Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
OUR COUNTDOWN

 
1 day until Alex Gibney’s film Going Clear: Scientology & the Prison of Belief opens at the Sundance Film Festival at 2:30 pm on Sunday, January 25 in Park City, Utah

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 24, 2015 at 06:00

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  • USA MRIID

    And in this link Another Hubbard Family Member spit on a black woman and discovered she was a Judge.

    Funny how the Hubbard clan are all right wing YSCOHB Republican shitbags.

    • Scream Nevermore

      The judge was called Arnette Hubbard – she was the one spat on?

    • Chee Chalker

      Did you read the article? The victim (the judge) was named Hubbard. No mention of LRH, Republicans, or CSOHB

    • Stacy

      There are probably some Republican shitbags who post here regularly whom you just insulted. My brother happens to be a Republican shitbag.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        It’s just Fred, it happens. He’s posting under his “bad guy” persona today.

    • Ella Raitch

      Ah – Hubbard was the spittee, not the spitter.

    • What kind of missing link would use Rosa Parks as an insult??

  • Shelly Britt Corrias

    Just curious: how many here were in attendance at the LRH death event at the Palladium? (I was, so “one” so far.)

    • Vaquera

      What were the conversations like when you all adjourned? Shock, happy, enturbulated?

      • Shelly Britt Corrias

        answered above 🙂

    • Chee Chalker

      Can you describe for us the mood? And opinion of DM?

      • Shelly Britt Corrias

        The mood was curious as all hell before it began, because no one knew what it was about. People started crying when they realized LRH had died, me included. As DM continued, he basically explained how we were “supposed” to feel, so at that point people tried to suppress their sadness and stop crying. I do not remember a lot of talking afterwards. IMO the “real” emotions were shock, sadness and apprehension about the future, while the “exhibited” emotions were suppressed sadness mixed with acceptance and forced optimism.

        As for opinion of DM: for most people, this was their first DM sighting. Believe it or not, he came across as compassionate, especially compared to what I experienced of him later. I think people were a lot more curious about Pat Broeker, who spoke after DM. Pat was mysterious and quirky and damn, he was with LRH until the end. DM wasn’t. Who would YOU rather talk to?

        Would like to hear other opinions, please, if you were there.

        • Stacy

          When DM finished talking and introduced Earl Cooley, everyone applauded wildly and the first few rows (maybe everyone, hard to tell), jumped up to give EC a standing O.

          I know this is SOP at CoS events, and you could end up in trouble if you don’t appear enthusiastic enough. How did this applause and enthusiasm feel to you? Did you feel it was rather unfeeling to be applauding wildly just minutes after DM announced LRH’s death? And to me, it just seems weird that everyone would applaud Hubbard’s LAWYER, for any reason at all.

          Scientology is just weird.

          • Shelly Britt Corrias

            Well, the auto applause and standing O thing always annoyed me, this was no different except that it was done through shock. Yes it felt inappropriate. As for Earle, yes, weird. The whole thing was weird. I remember thinking to myself afterwards, “Wow, if anyone not in Scientology heard this event, they’d think we were all stark staring mad.” I also remember thinking “remember these last days, because things will never be the same.”

            • Stacy

              They definitely weren’t the same, were they?
              I’m glad some of the audience felt the inappropriateness of applauding LRH’s lawyer, right after his death had been announced.
              Thanks for answering my questions Shelly. You’re awesome, as always. 🙂

        • Robert Eckert

          The Broeker speech at the event is also preserved. He comes across as very disorganized:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWzN4ziRb2c

          • Robert Eckert

            Part 2 of Broeker is even a little weirder to my eyes:

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOpsWvTNv8A

            • L. C. Spencer

              Wow. The True Believer.

              I’ve watched this so many times and every time I’m shocked by the contrast between him and Miscavige. It sums up the history of the Cherch in a lot of ways.

            • Shelly Britt Corrias

              I had forgotten about a lot of this, finally watched both Broeker vids. I was jarred both then and now when he described how LRH wrote up how to “sever all ties” before you die. This was pretty much Twilight Zone.

            • L. C. Spencer

              The full event can be found on YouTube if watching that is something you would want to do. I mean, that would have to be unbelievably surreal for you. It is for me and I not only wasn’t there, I wasn’t even ever a Scientologist. The first time I saw this I just sat for forty minutes with my jaw hanging open.

            • Shelly Britt Corrias

              It is quite surreal. A couple segments at a time is good, I’ll eventually watch all of it.

          • Shelly Britt Corrias

            Thank you. I’ll watch these as soon as I finish planting a couple of day lilies that are laying bare on my porch.

          • Ruby

            Yes, and nervous. It totally went against my opinion of what an “OT” would be like.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I remember my exact thought at the news: Now there is zero chance of salvaging scientology.

            • Did anyone really remember who Pat Broeker was after six years of hiding with Hubbard?

        • Anonymous

          Yes…Pat came off as very odd, introverted and grasping for words.

          Miscavige was more of a cipher to the general public, but a stronger speaker. His role was better known among Sea Org members who were involved somehow with ASI or its affiliated groups.

          Attendance at the event was deemed “mandatory” for anyone in the LA area who could be reached by phone to be “invited.” This was well before all of Scientology became a coercive operation…so the “mandatory” aspect of attendance was a curiosity.

          What I recall afterward was a sense of WTF now? We found out shortly thereafter.

        • Chee Chalker

          Thank you for your answer…. Very interesting!

        • Scream Nevermore

          Thank you Shelly – and all who post first hand info – as a never-in, it’s always fascinating to hear from those who were there.

          • Shelly Britt Corrias

            It’s always interesting to me to hear others’ info too. Fills in missing info many times.

        • Ella Raitch

          Not sure how much longer you were in Scientology after this Shelly, but how have Scientologists reconciled the certainty with which higher OT levels were talked about and the fact they have never been produced.

          • Shelly Britt Corrias

            It’s been too long – over twelve years. It’s a good question.

    • L. C. Spencer

      I third the motion, we’d LOVE to hear your impressions of that day.

    • Techie

      The Hollywood Palladium is listed as seating 4,000. I think extra seats were packed into the balconies, it may be a bit more than that. I was there too, and I remember it being packed full of people. In those days it was not unusual for a Ron’s Birthday or similar event to be held in the Palladium, not usually to a full house. I saw some recently routed-out SO friends there, my guess is that just about every Scientologist in the LA area showed up. I was at Gold but got bussed down for the show.I think everyone was in grief or suppressed grief before the show, all in suppressed grief after and pretending to be smiling and happy. I briefly thought “Oh-oh, does this mean we are officially a suicide cult now? Will every Scientologist be expected to suicide when they get that far up the Bridge?” but I kept that thought severely to myself. In later years I noticed that Dave often reviews the history of Scientology during events, and shows footage of earlier events, but never a single word about the Palladium. It may be that this was the start of the Nuremburg-style big Scientology events, or it may be that the real start was the Mission Holder’s conference years before. The same group of “senior executives” (Dave, Mark Yaeger, Guillame LeSevre etc) were involved and the format of short presentations by executives with graphics started there. Of course these days it is all Dave.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Events changed drastically in 1984.

        • Techie

          That’s right, I remember an event at the Palladium in around 1982 with Chick Corea and his band, short speeches, little Publications Organization displays in the entry area. It was more like a big party than a formal event.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Yep – I did tours, eventually running Canada, U.S. and Mexico. We performed, had other music, some short videos, sometimes food, more party then penance. One day I dragged myself to FP meeting and found my budget slashed a little, like 98%! And I worked on a shoe string before that.

            No one could explain it other than it had come down from above, but didn’t know what it meant. I told them it meant tours and events are cancelled, that’s what it meant. But why? Most events were local before then. That ended – and so did I. Short trip to RPF and that was the end of that era. I can’t believe anyone would subject themselves to Miscavige’s 5 minute Hate events that last 4 hours.

            I left never hearing the name Miscavige or knowing it was him that cut me down. But I sure heard about him years later.

            • Techie

              Sounds like a raid by the International Finance Police! (for never-ins that is the real name of the guys that were out to squeeze every dime out of Scientology in the 80s to make Ron a billionaire)

        • Destructor of Worlds

          Was that the year management stole ol the TV’s ?

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            ’83 or ’84.

          • Techie

            I remember the TVs disappearing in 1981, could be wrong.

            • Destructor of Worlds

              Thank you for clearing that up; The TV Incident

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              in PAC? Oh my, the time warp of the Sea Org – it never ceases to amaze me.

      • Shelly Britt Corrias

        Thanks for that. Do you remember that event where Frank Stallone sang? With a broken nose? It was the first event where we were required to wear evening attire (long dresses and tuxes).

    • flexible

      Watched it via Satellite –

    • Ruby

      I was there

  • TonyOrtega

    Right in front of me a skateboard warrior walked up, challenged a cop directing traffic to a fight, and then said ‘you can’t catch me, fat fucker,’ and walked right into the cop’s partner, who wrestled him to the ground, with hundreds of festival goers filming on their phones. Is this normal behavior for Sundance?

    • Dr_Orpheus

      Maybe he missed the friendly prison life and couldn’t wait to get back to it.

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        Three Hots and a Cot……We do not actually know, know anything about prison.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Don’t remember those kind of stories emerging from Sundance. It’s a chill environment all the way around.

    • Science Doc

      No, but do you know what vacuum cleaners and snowboarders have in common (and I’m assuming skateboarder is also a snowboarder)?

      Answer: they each have a place to strap on a dirtbag.

    • Vaquera
      • TonyOrtega

        Yep. Happened right in front of me.

      • Baby

        OMG Texas good find.. wow..

        • Vaquera

          I does m’best.

      • BlondesAreDumb

        Minor excitement, that’s all. Waiting for Screaming by Jenny and her pals.

    • Vaquera

      Video. Looking for you in the background.
      http://instagram.com/p/yQGsCXEIfl/

    • Captain Howdy

      Look out, Tony. You’re not in NYC anymore. Those straight edgers are crazy.

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      Did you help pick up “The Way To Happiness” booklets he dropped”?

      • Baby

        Bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahhahahhahaha

    • flexible

      Well Tony.. you ARE in the Sourceland of another cult ya know.. gotta watch yourself.. be safe.! lol

    • The guy heard Sundance and thought it was Dumb stance.

      Did he look like this:
      http://i65.photobucket.com/albums/h233/RogerRamdrive/ThrasherDave.jpg

    • Pepsicat

      Normal for Park City.

  • nottrue

    ….Alex

  • A Guest

    UPDATE: For those who are want to “Sundance fest” at home:

    13 Sundance Film Festival Events You Can Watch Online http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2015/01/19/13-sundance-film-festival-events-you-can-watch-online/

    Sundance’s YouTube channel has live streaming of events and interviews from its Cinema Cafe, plus other 2015 Sundance videos already in the can. About an hour ago, I watched Tig Notaro and Sarah Silverman with Cara Buckley (The New York Times) live. In about 20 minutes, I’ll be watching “Power of Story: Serious Ladies” at the same site.

    “Power of Story” will feature these storytellers: Lena Dunham (Girls), Mindy Kaling (The Mindy Project, The Office), Jenji Kohan (Orange Is the New Black, Weeds), and Kristen Wiig (Bridesmaids, Saturday Night Live) with New Yorker critic Emily Nussbaum “…as they discuss antiheroes and archetypes, using humor to crash through boundaries, as well as how far their art will go to tell the truth.”

    I hope this link works from within the Bunker for this livestreaming event. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MMKN9Vx85mc

    • A Guest

      If the above doesn’t work for you, then you can go to the Sundance YouTube Channel site, and click on the already recorded videos. https://www.youtube.com/user/sff

      • Captain Howdy

        Hey, it’s the chick from Big Bang with the big bazingas.

        • Baby

          Really weird hearing her real voice instead of Bernedette’s high shrill..

          I just read a review about the movie .. They really blast her MidWestern Accent..She is supposed to be in Ohio..and didn’t capture the accent at all.

          I’m from Ohio and didn’t know I had an accent..haha

          • Frodis73

            Lol. I don’t hear an Ohio accent either and I’m usually good at that kind of thing, but totally deaf to OH.

            • Baby

              the Ohio accent was in the movie you silly doggie.

            • Frodis73

              I knew that, I wasn’t so clear, but I was responding more to your thing about not knowing you had an accent.. Over the years I have heard about the Ohio accent and I’ve yet to hear what they mean.

            • Scream Nevermore

              Don’t you colonial chaps all have the same accent??? 😉

            • Baby

              I have always been told I have a little ” Southern Twang ” going on.. ( it’s funny the movie takes place like 45 min. away from the small Ohio town where I was raised..” )

              but I always say, ” There is a thin line between being a Hillbilly and a Hick..” ha

        • Eileen

          OMG, that is all.

      • Baby
    • Jo

      Link works, thank you.

  • Vaquera

    Spotted another shot of the Going Clear poster, towards the bottom of the photo.
    http://instagram.com/p/yQEpKrOQ8A/

    • Vaquera
      • Opal Lumen

        Funny coincidence — Note the sign in the upper right corner of this photo.

        “Miss Panache” was a nickname given to Shelly by Hubbard when she was a Commodore’s Messenger.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Breaking News Reuters
    Park City, Utah

    24th Jan., 2015

    KKK strikes back with Major Law Suit – Social Media Gone Awry

    our correspondents, Pablo Escobar and Sister M. Orphine

    “Asking a defected Scientologist about Scientology is like asking a KKK member to REPRESENT the views of white people on blacks…pure shite”

    The former actress and current liposuction experiment, Mz. Kirstie Alley, 64, tweeted this controversial and somewhat muddled verbiage yesterday to her over 1,000,000 followers.
    In an unexpected twist, Alley has been served with a $4.7 M lawsuit for libel following her tweet.

    The Grand Dragon and leader of the Coup Clucks Clam, Robert E. Daltonian (Billy Bo Scumbag to his friends), speaking to a packed pickup truck, in Doodlebug Juice, Alabama announced the legal action, saying that being compared to $cientology was an extraordinary insult that could severely tarnish the whiter than white reputation of the Coup Clucks Clam.

    Ms. Alley said that she had no comment and that her first ski trip of the year to Park City, Utah was all that was on her mind.
    “The snow is wonderful, perfect powder,” she added.

    Her first marriage, to her cousin Bob Alley, ended in 1977. At the time of her conversion to the “Church” of $cientology in 1979 she admits to having been a cocaine addict. This could explain the addled thinking that led her there.

    • Stacy

      “Asking a defected Scientologist about Scientology is like asking a KKK member to REPRESENT the views of white people on blacks…pure shite.”

      I cannot believe KA tweeted this footbullet. What an apples to oranges comparison. All ex-scientologists were once scientologists. No KKK member has ever been an African American, much less an ex-African American. This is the most ridiculous comparison I’ve ever heard.

      Are we sure it isn’t KA who failed to finish high school? I hope she manages to damage her own career (I know, I know, WHAT career?) with this foot torpedo. And for the first time in my life, I regret not having a Twitter account. I really want to tell KA how inappropriate her metaphor is.

      • Jgg2012

        Good points. Also, no current KKK member has ever realized he was wrong, the organization he supported was bad, he was misled, etc. Former KKK members (this includes a former US Senator and a former Supreme Court justices) do say this. Oh, they must be 2 bitter, defrocked apostates who are self-absorbed. Did a suppressive person influence them?

      • Observer

        Actually, asking a Scientologist who’s still in about Scientology would be like asking a KKK member about black people–only the KKK member would be more honest about what the KKK actually believes than the active Scientologist would be.

      • Newiga

        All ex-scientologists were once scientologists. No KKK member has ever been an African American, much less an ex-African American. This is the most ridiculous comparison I’ve ever heard. THIS!!! Perfectly put! Exactly how I see her poor comparison.

        KA’s PR person (if she has one) should confiscate all devices that allow her to access twitter. Shheeeez! Can you believe this woman is 64??

      • shasha40

        Who ? I’m an owl ! 😀

      • daytoncapri

        Kristie sent me a mental message to edit her post for clarity. Here is the revised version.

        “Asking a defected Scientologist about Scientology is like asking a defected KKK
        member to REPRESENT the views of KKK people on blacks, and You wanna be where everybody knows your name…

        Read more: Gary Portnoy – Where Everybody Knows Your Name Lyrics | MetroLyrics
        http://www.metrolyrics.com/where-everybody-knows-your-name-lyrics-gary-portnoy.html

    • beauty for ashes

      Jam packed with mind bending metaphors like a joyful rollercoaster ride!
      Kirstie’s brain seems like an impenetrable membrane through which reason cannot pass.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ REMINDER +–+ RED X ***
    35 ads so far, the Nashville Phantom strikes again! Seattle & LA in front with Buffalo & SF close behind.
    See the Daily Wip. Keep checking for more ads from California later this evening every 2nd hours.
    RedX write up : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    Propaganda by Clint Cearley, enhanced by DodoTheLaser for
    RedX & flickred by Aegerprimo:. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/16101805310/in/set-72157642802079293

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Since we all like kittehs and squirrels, here’s a pair playing together:

    http://youtu.be/EWFXttBlSJI

    • Captain Howdy

      Ninja squirrel.

      • Panopea Abrupta

        Sending you something snail-mail in about an hour.
        Got addy from Bury

    • Stacy

      Squirrels are just too cool. Add in cats, you have uber-adorableness. Or as Hubbard might say, adorabilityness.

      • beauty for ashes

        last night late Andrew posted a link to this:

        http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2015/01/meet_the_mutant_squirrels_of_city_hall_park.php

        You must have been fast asleep, so I saved the link for you.:)
        Warning:squirrel cuteness you may have never experienced.

        • Stacy

          These black squirrels are just beautiful. Thanks for saving the link for me, beauty. I tend to go to bed early. I’m much more of a morning person. 🙂

          • beauty for ashes

            I know the color of their fur is so luxe!
            The thing that really made me think of you was the woman who tried to rescue a baby squirrel smuggling it under her cape. You are such a sweetheart, with just enough spirit of bad-ass to do something like that!

            • Stacy

              Lol, when I read that, I thought about it being something I’d try to do. Funny you thought the same thing! 😉

              I would’ve tried something like that when I was a teen. Now, as much as I’d love a squirrel as a pet, I would never try to remove a baby from the wild, just for that purpose.

              I’d still love to have a squirrel, though. 🙂

        • Robert Eckert

          Almost all the squirrels around here are black.

          • beauty for ashes

            Cool! Do you live in an area that might have the same kind of island effect on breeding and genetics?

            • Robert Eckert

              No, suburban Detroit. I’m not sure how wide a stretch of southeast Michigan is dominated by the darker squirrels, but beauty’s link contains some people writing in from Ontario that it is the same on that side.

    • Robert Eckert
      • Frodis73

        That dog taking the bus is so awesome.

      • Stacy

        “Given this cat is elderly we suspect it would be eligible for free travel, perhaps a bus puss, if such a thing existed.”

        A spokesperson with a sense of humor and a kind soul. Karen Pouw, take note!

  • nottrue

    Be careful Tony…….

  • TonyOrtega

    This place needs a bunker…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank you! Yes, Live blog. Damn, I was going to get you a hat like that but logo “Underground Bunker”. Thought of it too late. Nice coat.

      Now, would you mind just kneeling down on the sidewalk so we can get you with a shot of Going Clear poster. Thanks so much.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist
        • Stacy

          I love the effects you used. They go perfectly with the look on Tony’s face. I don’t know why, but he looks hopeful.

    • Stacy

      You look so insouciant, Tony! 😉

      Keep enjoying yourself!

    • Baby

      REPRESENTIN.. Yep.. REPRESENTIN IN fine form Mr. O.

    • NOLAGirl

      Have you seen Myles Binford yet? 🙂

      • Frodis73

        Hmmm. Interesting. Makes one wonder if there will be a protest of some type tomorrow…

        • NOLAGirl

          I’m just wondering if Myles rounded up those 400 friends and his family and got them all to cancel their HBO subscriptions yet? *gigglesnort*

          http://tonyortega.org/2014/12/29/one-scientologist-is-out-to-teach-hbo-a-lesson-for-its-upcoming-documentary/

        • Baby

          OH GOD I HOPE SO.. that would put the cherry right on that fabulous Sundae.

          Or Sunday.. when it’s showing..do you see my play on words there doggy?

          • Frodis73

            Yes, I will admit it took me a minute there. They are so stupid…I just know some kinda BS will happen. Now that Tony posted that he and Marc were photographed at the airport confirms it. Oh! I bet that also confirms that the Headley’s are in the movie. Yay!!!!!!!!!

            • Baby

              YAY! How fun..

        • Suzy

          I was hoping the clams would protest so the Streisand effect will go full blown

    • Frodis73

      Awww! Squeal! I like that you are also surrounded by posters for ‘The Visit”.
      What other movies are you going to try and catch? I understand if you don’t want to answer in case of PI’s, etc.
      Keep warm hon and know we are thinking of you.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      The very picture of insouciance.

      • Baby

        Me baby? or you baby..hahaha

    • flexible

      Tony….you need a scarf, mate. You look almost balmy. Park City – lottsa snow.. except I guess it’s not really cold there right now.

    • Science Doc

      Any close encounters of the clammy kind?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I’m pretty sure we’ll get a complete report by Monday – maybe more than one.

    • Snake Plissken

      You need a laptop under your arm with a bumper sticker on it that says “This Machine Kills Scientology”

      • Baby

        Or at least a sticker on his laptop..like this for clams to read..

        • Frodis73

          I so love this. Every single time my ‘puter acts up, it feels very personal as if it *is* out to get me and make my life miserable.

          • beauty for ashes

            LOL. Same way with my car too!

      • Ella Raitch

        Nice!

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      You are doing it wrong. You need to have a puffy coat and Uggs, neither of which have ever been worn before, to fit into the Sundance crowd.

      • Snake Plissken

        He’s got the NYC Robert De Niro look going on, he’s walking around there like a boss, and the cult know it.

        • shasha40

          That ,” Are you tawking to me ??? ” look . 😀

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      BTW, I have going to recommend the High West Distillery (its just off main street to the west a bit) if you want to go for a drink. They have multiple house brands of whiskey in their bar area and serve pretty good food too. Try the “white” whiskey which is basically moonshine.

    • valshifter

      Is anybody following you? where is your camara in case the clamies come around telling you that nobody cares about you. lol

    • Kim O’Brien

      robbing a bodega ? 🙂

    • good chance to try out some new software I downloaded [Topaz Impression for Mac]

    • Zana

      Yayy! Our hero, looking good! Can’t wait for your report tomorrow!

  • Baby

    I was grumpy in the kitchen just now..

    My husband asked, ” What is wrong with you?”

    I said.. ” I want to be in Sundance with Tony!”

    and he said, ” Tony Who?”

    Errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh welcome to my life..I’ve only been talkin bout it for a month! I just stomped away..

    • Stacy

      Lol, Baby that’s funny. You’ll find this funny too. When I first started hanging out in the Bunker, I thought you were Tony’s wife/ GF/ partner. You seemed so familiar with what was going on in his life, and you were always here in the Bunker, etc…

      Lol, how funny is that? 😉

      • Baby

        bawwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwhahhahahhahaha.. Oh Kitteh I just love you..

        I am a lot older than Mr. O.. I am just thrilled that Tony has given us a place to come and be educated..to tell the truth..and separate fact from fiction.

        As much as I am here I’m sure Mr. Baby feels the same way as you do.. hahhahaha..

        • Stacy

          What’s that old saying? “Age is a state of mind.” 😉
          Told you it was funny, teehee.
          You have a great hubby Baby. 🙂

    • Baby

      I forgot..

      He said.. ” Jeeze if you could be with anyone at Sundance why wouldn’t it be Robert Redford..?” groans

      • MrsLurksALot

        I see his point…..plus, you’d have complete access to the films and all the players.

        • Baby

          and Uh Robert Redford..hahaha

          • Scream Nevermore

            Brad Pitt’s there. So is Keanu Reeves. I’d settle for either of them!

            • shasha40

              I’ d take both ! !! But forsake them all for Johnny Depp …

            • Scream Nevermore

              🙂

          • MrsLurksALot

            Uh, duh! I thought that was implied. 😉

            • Baby

              hahhahaa You are funny Mrs..

    • Snake Plissken

      Did he ask what band Tony plays in?

      • Baby

        He might has well have.. The man is absolutely clueless about my life..clueless.. but actually I’m happy because I’m clueless about all his fishing stories..

        We both look at each other with blank eyes and nod.. It has worked for years..

        • Snake Plissken

          A lack of interest in Scientology … isn’t necessarily a bad thing, in fact it’s quite normal.

          • Baby

            Yep.. I’m takin medication for it Snake..

            • Snake Plissken

              Scientology is like a perpetual car wreck, you know you don’t want to see it, but you can’t stop yourself from looking, and once you look, it’s hard to look away.

            • Stacy

              Does that mean we’re all gawkers?

        • Ella Raitch

          Hey – that’s my approach to marriage too…!

    • Suzy

      I greenlighted a camping trip for Mr Suzy so I can have the computer to myself all weekend without interruption 🙂

      • Baby

        Ohhhh smart Kitteh… hahaha

  • Stacy
  • aurora50

    Another well written and thoughtful article published at The Hollywood Reporter:

    Why the Media Is No Longer Afraid of Scientology (Analysis) by Kim Masters
    http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/tom-cruise-scientology-why-media-414256

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Tony’s book and the 2 documentaries are going to severely test their mettle.

      From the article:
      Pouw says in a statement to THR that any threatening acts toward Cooper were not authorized or directed by the Church but originated with a “then-autonomous unit that was disbanded 30 years ago.”

      and, on suing journalists:

      “The Church ended that period long ago, victorious, and has little litigation today,” she says. “Today the Church is focused on its humanitarian mission.”

      Ms. Pouw, you are going to one very busy spokesliar over the next months.
      Get your hypewriter out.
      Who is going to clean the septic tank?

      • Scream Nevermore

        They are spending millions on that ‘little litigation’!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Until Ms Pouw is seen on camera, she doesn’t exist. The snark about being victorious is Miscavigary. Gloating about suing journalists.

        What Miscavige fails to realize is that there are no major recognized groups coming forward to thank him for his vast humanitarian charities across the globe. Where are they? Why aren’t they speaking on your behalf – all these millions you have saved from disaster and despair? Why isn’t there a single award or trophy coming from any global organization that recognizes great and vast humanitarian achievements? Maybe the whales can pretend not to notice, but in the real world, they see through this boasting for what it is.

        All that wasted blood money for ads crowing about his great works with the single line, “Questions?” I got questions. And starting Bamuary 25, 2015, the whole wide world will have questions too. Well, everyone besides the IRS.

        http://i.imgur.com/PNKerzi.gif

        • shasha40

          Bamuary 25, 2015 , A day that will live in SPinfamy, forever and ever, and so forth and so on … Infinity and beyond !!!

        • MaxSpaceman

          anybody post yet what time? the showing? Utah Central Standard Time …

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            2:30 pm Sunday is the debut. I think I saw another showing 6:30 pm. I am going to assume those are Utah time zones.

            • Science Doc

              Set your chronograph back 83 years.

      • Observer

        Captain Miscavige is about to have the red pill forcibly administered.

        refresh

      • Stacy
      • NOLAGirl

        “little litigation”?

        Oh really? The list of ongoing case involving Co$ says otherwise.

      • outraged

        The Cherch, after all these years of being the big bad bully, is now on the defensive. All their actions are now reactions. They have lost their ball. The game is over. The fat lady sang.

    • Baby

      [IMG]http://i62.tinypic.com/s1uxzq.gif

    • Baby

      aurora.. great article.. my bullshit kitteh wasn’t directed at you of course.. Fair Game will always be in the Scn equation. As we all know.

    • TonyOrtega

      I like Kim, but I wasn’t a fan of that story. Some of us still risk a lot to write stories, and some places (ABC, ahem) are still terrified of Scientology.

      It took Alex Gibney and HBO a lot of guts to do this film, and it’s very easy for Kim to say there’s no longer any risk.

      • Destructor of Worlds
      • Caught In the Snow

        It looks to me like that article is two years old. Is everyone aware of that?
        Have a blast, Tony. You have earned every right to be sitting pretty in Sundance with the whole world watching. My hat’s off to you for all you do!

      • ze moo

        The clampire is just waiting for some incident that proves ‘they’re picking on us’. Davy wants/needs to prove how big his pair is, and someone somewhere is going to help him prove it. Most likely targets: his staff, they are the closest, and shooting the messanger has a long tradition; some cleb that steps out of line, they are too public to really smack around, but they are the best thing a sec checker has ever seen; someone who has said or done something to ‘reputation’ of $cientology, the clampire has to respond to some insults.

        The clampire has always been a ‘hide the mystery sandwich’ and ‘nastiest bully on the block’ type of cult.

        With the small size of cameras today, no clam ever knows what will end up on youtube or on the local TV station. That alone scares most into actual legal behavior.

        All of the clam exposes in the last 5 years have really changed the perception of $cientology. Tom Cruise can jump off Oprah’s couch as much as he wants. Oprah will never ask a tough question of him. But everyone who saw the ‘we are the only one who can help at accidents’ video or the Matt Laurer fiasco (which must have put TC in the double secret probation status) has seen the crazy. There isn’t enough eye bleach to fix that. And someone has to pay for that.

        TC probably got a nice ‘atta boy’ from COB, but then a very large sec check bill. He shut up and remains shut up about $cientology. That is what COB wants most, everyone to shut up about Lron and Xenu and all of the nasty history that Clams have generated. You can’t have a mystery sandwich if it is all on the internet. And your local papers. And on TV. And in the movie houses.

        Not even an ostrich can dig a hole deep enough to hide from all the ‘enthata’ being generated today. Thank the gods for that…..

      • L. C. Spencer

        ABC should have owned this beat since the Koppel interview. No excuse for their cowardice.

      • Artoo45

        I’d be using my real name if I thought they were totally defanged.

      • aurora50

        Thanks, as ever, for deepening the info for all…especially a never-in like myself.

      • Shelly Britt Corrias

        Such a good point. In the court of public opinion, there’s no longer a reason to be afraid. In the court of law and private harassment, due to the cult’s obscene amount of money, journalists who do more than repackage and forward someone else’s work are still taking risks. The better the journalist, the bigger the risk.

      • I guess not all reporters who write about the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $scientology are good enough to get PIs doing noisy investigations, eh?

  • 1subgenius

    Hey Tony, how about some pix and videos and live updates?

    • TonyOrtega

      This wine is nice. Like that?

    • Baby

      Sub.. Let Tony have a fun relaxing time.. Good God..

      Take your time Tony.. what? 5 -10 minutes max?

      • 1subgenius

        Yeah, I’ll just wait until it’s over and ask him how it was.

        • Baby

          Oh sub.. I wasn’t scolding I was teasing..

          • 1subgenius

            I’m serious. I learned it from Jimmy3.

            • Baby

              Where is our little jimmy?

            • Stacy

              Good question. Also, where is MK? I haven’t seen him at all today, though I was gone for a while midday. Has he been around? I hate to think of either of them missing all this great Sundance weekend party.

            • Baby

              He has been working a lot Stace..

            • Ella Raitch

              I’ve been waiting for that shtick to make a reappearance! You timed that one perfectly.

      • Suzy

        We should have got him a “Tony head cam” so we could tag along live with him on his adventure.

        • Baby

          OMG The Squirrel Busters shit..hahhahaha

          • L. C. Spencer

            YES PLEASE. I want him to run into Myles Binford at the very least. Or for maximum lulz, Kirstie.

  • 1subgenius

    Cruise tries to get Sofia Vergara and fails:

    “Vergara signed a lengthy-term contract with the network, and she and her son moved to Los Angeles in 2005.

    Shortly following, she was introduced to Tom Cruise at a celebration.

    According to the the actor’s unofficial biographer Andrew Morton, Cruise “laid on the charm with a trowel.” Morton claims that Vergara’s son was invited to play with Cruise’s kids and that, following trips to the Scientology Celebrity Center, “.  .  . there was no doubt [Tom] was auditioning [Vergara] for the aspect of his wife.”

    But the Catholic actress allegedly had no intention of becoming the next Mrs. Cruise.

    “She sincerely believed that she would be struck down by God and burn in hell if she joined [Scientology],” Morton claims. (Cruise went on to marry Katie Holmes a year immediately after his ill-fated dalliance with Vergara.)”

    http://www.theinsiderreview.com/entertainment/drugs-murder-mafia-inside-sofia-vergara039s-rocky-road-to-fame-h3279.html

    • Scream Nevermore

      Given what exes post about it, I think Ms Vergara was almost right – it would have felt like hell if she became Mrs Cruise and joined up. What is it with him and marrying Catholics? (My mum wants to know, as it annoys her!)

      • Stacy

        I’m also curious as to why he keeps marrying women with fathers who are guaranteed to be very cautious and skeptical of scientology. Kidman’s father, a psychologist. Holme’s father, a lawyer. Maybe deep down TC really wants to be saved from scientology.
        Nah!

        • Scream Nevermore

          Or maybe in his arrogance he thinks he’s going to put them in their place. After all, he’s the only one that will be able to save them if they’re in a car crash, because HE KNOWS! Jings, what a tit he is!

          • Stacy

            That’s true. It’s like Pfft! He is an OT, you know. He can conquer any woman! (rolling eyes like mad)

            • 1subgenius

              He’s Kryptonite to women.

            • Scream Nevermore

              If I were a vampire, he’d be my garlic!

          • Frodis73

            Ha! That sounds like the TC we all know and hate. He’s so full of himself I bet he looked at it as a challenge that he would win and convert them all.

      • Observer

        He was raised Catholic and even went to seminary for a year. He apparently kicked around the idea of becoming a priest for at least a short time.

        http://www.irishexaminer.com/lifestyle/features/humaninterest/tom-cruises-year-at-the-seminary-200695.html

        • Scream Nevermore

          I know, but it doesn’t really answer the question. Maybe it’s just coincidence. I was raised a Catholic, and I feel no compulsion to marry one!

          • Observer

            Maybe he feels he can “rescue” a nice Catholic girl like he was “rescued.” Or maybe he thinks he knows how to handle them into Scientology because of their common background.

            • Scream Nevermore

              My mum reckons he fancies the challenge of converting a practicing Catholic. We had a Mormon neighbour who quite openly said that converting my mum would be the highlight of her career. Sadly for her, it never happened. Mum’s in there until the death!

            • Stacy

              You’d think he’d want to hook up with scientologists, since they’re the only sane people on earth.

              Meh. We’re probably making way too much out of this. Catholicism is HUGE. Unlike CoS. It’s much easier for TC to find a Catholic interested in him that he’s also interested in than it is for him to find the same within the tiny confines of CoS.

          • 1subgenius

            He’s compulsive.

        • Eclipse-girl

          Went to a Catholic HS for a year, his freshman year and claimed to have at one point considered being a priest

          ETA : It may have been a single sex catholic HS.

          • Observer

            That’s why I said “apparently”. He also claims to have been horribly dyslexic, but there’s no evidence of that. I take everything he says with, as his friend COB Scientology spokesperson Karin Pouw once said, “a huge grain of salt.”

            • Eclipse-girl

              According to the Morton bio, Tom and his sisters need help while they were in Canada.
              after they returned to they US, non of the kids needed any special help.
              Tom’s HS girlfriend never noticed any problems with Tom’s ability to read or write.

            • Observer

              Why does that not surprise me? :-/

            • Eclipse-girl

              Morton tried to find the documents.
              I can’t attest to his veracity.

              He could not find documents that stated anything about the dyslexia.

            • Stacy

              How was the Morton bio? A good read? Worth buying, or at least checking out of my local library?

            • Eclipse-girl

              I thought it was well written and an engaging story.
              I purchased it used.
              I would check it out of the library, if I could.

            • Stacy

              Thanks Eclipse. I appreciate the info.

            • Scream Nevermore

              Yeah – a quick glance at Hearsay will give at least 2 different locations for this seminary. Wonder if he’s hiding something that happened around then? Something that would embarrass him either professionally or as a $ciloon? Edit: OK, that’s a conspiracy theory too far – caused by my lack of knowledge of American geography! He could still be hiding something, mind you!

            • Observer

              He’s got his TR-Ls down!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              oh gawd. TR-L = Terl !

            • Observer

              Hahahaha!

            • Stacy

              I also doubt the dyslexia story. Just PR dreck. I think he struggled in school because he’s just dumb.

            • L. C. Spencer

              The Andrew Morton bio quotes his teachers as saying that he did have learning disabilities and that they were very effectively addressed by skilled intervention at his school. So, not that he didn’t struggle, but by the time he got to Scientology, the real professionals-who-can-help had already done their work.

            • Stacy

              DO his teachers specify what type of learning disabilities?
              Thanks for the info L.C. I definitely think I need to check out Morton’s unapproved bio.

            • L. C. Spencer

              It’s been years since I read it and I had to go digging to see how correct my memory was. I didn’t re-read the whole thing in the last hour, obviously, but what I did find was that starting out in Packanack Elementary School (New Jersey) he had trouble with learning to read and was diagnosed with dyslexia while there. His family moved to Ottowa and after being re-evaluated there, he started third grade in the special needs program at Robert Hopkins Public School which had very advanced and progressive alternative learning resources.

              He apparently made complaints about his schooling there that don’t jive with the memory of anyone else on the scene, including accusing teachers of forcing him to write with his right hand when he wanted to use his left. One of these teachers vehemently denies this and is herself a leftie and leftie-positive education activist.

              Recollections of his learning disabilities in elementary school seem to be common. For his high school years, nobody seems to remember any such problems, and he was not in special classes. I can’t find the commentary I was looking for about how “it was handled effectively when he was back in school,” but the disparity between everybody noticing he was dyslexic in elementary school and nobody noticing such in high school is notable.

            • Stacy

              L.C., thanks so much for digging all that info up. I didn’t mean for you to go to such trouble. I really appreciate it though. I definitely want to read this unofficial bio.

            • L. C. Spencer

              Oh, it’s no problem. And yeah, I think the book is worth a look even though he’s not the most fascinating person to profile. He comes across as made of talent but without a single original thought in his mind. The best reason to read it is to assess how his psychology meshes with his being swallowed up by Scientology, which is worth something. It’s really sad to say this, but that seems to be by far the most interesting thing about him.

              p.s. if this theme interests you and you haven’t already seen it, I can HIGHLY recommend the documentary done on him by French tv (with English subs). Its focus is specifically how they got their hooks into him and how they turned him into their trick pony, culminating in how he won the Freedom Medal of Valor. Very well done indeed.

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OspkMW6jEOg

          • Observer

            In the article I linked the priest they interviewed called it seminary.

            • Eclipse-girl

              In my opinion, a seminary would be post HS.

              He went straight to NYC after HS graduation.

              This is from Andrew Morton’s bio

            • Observer

              The name of the school he attended was St. Francis Seminary School, in Cincinnati.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    January 26, 2015 announcement: Miscavige has graciously agreed to take a well earned retirement. Cruise annointed new Pope of Scientology after realizing no woman was good enough. All Sea Org dropped their clipboards and ran. Kirstie Alley volunteers for something. The end.

    http://i.imgur.com/ZDBjijB.jpg

    • Observer

      “Cruise annointed new Pope of Scientology after realizing no woman was good dumb enough.”

      fixt.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Wait, where’s Ringo?

      • daytoncapri

        You made me laugh out loud.

    • DMisamidget

      Cruise sitting down is almost as tall as COB!

  • TonyOrtega

    Headley and I confirmed that we were each photographed by the same private eye when we arrived at the airport (a day apart). Headley managed to snap a photo of him. I’ll post it later.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Cool! Oh and tip the concierge after you give him that photo. And see if he can get your rooms changed.

      Maybe next time he’ll pose with Alex Gibney – that would make the perfect money shot for interviews he does – all year long! bwahahaha

    • Science Doc

      No Jenny?

    • Scream Nevermore

      You should have offered to autograph it for him/her! 😉

    • Chee Chalker

      Pathetic…. So, they just confirmed that you were in Utah…..which you announced a month ago……there’s a scoop there!

      • Science Doc

        Yea. I don’t get it either. I don’t even see an advantage in discovering people that you aren’t expecting. So if they saw john Travolta come through the airport with Mike Rinder, what would they do about it if it meant Travolta was in the film?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Just attempt to freak them out, like that will happen. Also to see who is with them, and follow them around to take pictures so Miscavige will have something to throw darts at and he can send to the editor of Freedom Mag. Something like that.

          The purpose is to harass.

          • Observer

            Their freakout attempts are more like comedy sketches these days.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Wait till the interviews and photos and stories come out this week about how Miscavige proved every word true. “Here’s a photo of the P.I. that followed us everywhere down at Sundance. Here’s one of a waiter who asked us for our order while speaking into his lapel”.

              It’s going to be glorious, glorious, I tell ‘ya!

            • shasha40

              I’m trying so hard to be patient but I can’t wait to see these fuckers stumble, fall and , and, footbullets! We can take ‘ em , tiny dick , keep em coming !

            • I’d love to see Tina Fey or Amy Poeter do a Jenny@LAX meltdown skit.

            • Why wait for Tina Fey when you can have the real thing?

            • Nice, I didn’t know you had been on the Benny Hill show.

        • Narapoid

          Could you imagine Little Nero’s expression of a Shot of a laughing Travolta and Rinder together?

          He would probably kill the messenger, literally.

        • Chee Chalker

          They think they are intimidating. Good idea, attempt to intimidate a journalist. Whats that old saying… Never pick a fight with someone who buys ink by the barrel.

    • can I suggest you wear one of these for your next clam PI photo op

    • Ella Raitch

      Did you bring your clear bracelet?

    • Stacy

      Your presence there is going to get twisted into something nefarious, obviously. CoS will post a story accusing you of some lie, the story will backfire, and we’ll all laugh and cheer and engage in a ton of J&D’ing.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Oooh, I smell a glamorous Freedom Mag cover coming your way!

      • shasha40

        Fuck that, a whole Sundance Edition ! On sale now for only 47 gazillion dollars . ( shrub tech extra )

        • L. C. Spencer

          You know they’ll do a Sundance edition. With a whole new Posse!

          • shasha40

            Hope they have a wide lens to get all off us in the Bunker .

            • L. C. Spencer

              I’m holding out for my own personal caricature. You haven’t arrived until you’re a Freedom Toonie, dahling!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Freedom Toonie – !

            • Scream Nevermore

              I’m ready for my closeup. Miss Cabbage!

            • shasha40

              Right ! My left is my best side Mr.photographer …

        • Stacy

          shrub tech, lol. love it shasha! 😀

          • shasha40

            That’s all they’ ve got left after tomorrow , Ideal mOrgs and shrub tech , no people .

    • Wow, it’s not like you hadn’t announced you were going. Nor was probably anyone surprised they had PIs out and about. So predictable. SMDH

    • The Dude

      Wearing an SP’s 4 EVA! T-shirt I hope. LOL

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Are you sure it was a private eye? I always thought you look a lot like George Clooney.

  • NOLAGirl
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      BAMuary!

    • Science Doc

      I somehow doubt that scientology.org can answer all of my questions.

      • NOLAGirl

        They guy with the microworlds acct responded to Stolte and said he was just trolling her, so he won’t be going to their website either. 🙂

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Just noticed his avi. He’s looking slim and street wise.

      • NOLAGirl

        Agreed. 🙂

    • shasha40

      Thank you ,NOLAgirl ! Just say you’re welcome !!! 🙂

      • NOLAGirl

        Um..ok. 🙂 You’re welcome.

        • shasha40

          I fed a troll , you gave me , a mere ” wog “, an Excellent response to my lack of knowledge regarding Slyentology . 😉

          • MaxSpaceman

            most Bunkaroos are mere Wogs I’d think

            • shasha40

              and proud to be one too ! 😉

    • Scream Nevermore

      I can’t see that – wonder if it’s because I’m on the laptop??

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Tonight and tomorrow, it is suggested you have the cats sit on the F5 key. What? You didn’t get the memo on the training drill?

        • Scream Nevermore

          My cats are so fat they’d break it!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Rent-a-Cat. More Bunker fundraising possiblities:)

            • Stacy

              I can also offer my services as a cat trainer, extraordinaire. I come much cheaper than CoS courses! 😉

              http://www.catgifs.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/09/125_keyboard_cat_gifs.gif

            • Scream Nevermore

              I remember when mine were that cute – now they’re both the size of a small dog!

            • Stacy

              I’ve had a few Extra Large kitties in my life. 🙂
              I socialized a feral last year who weighed 18 lbs., and he wasn’t the slightest bit overweight. Just a ginormous boy. Unfortunately he had feline leukemia and I had to have him put to sleep. Very sad.

      • NOLAGirl

        Richelieu Jr (sp?) had the same problem and couldn’t find a fix for it. You can go to his account and see it on Twitter. @ChristianStolte https://twitter.com/ChristianStolte/with_replies

  • shasha40

    O/T : I just fed a troll , I didn’ t mean to . Over at the Hollywood Reporter story on GoingClear the other day , someone has informed me that bI Obviously didn’ t know about Scientology and their good works , they mentioned Narcocon , criminon, the usual BS . ( I found OSA !!! right before Sundance ! ) And something about no one’ s making money off of anyone and no slaves . I snapped , in a nice way , though .

    • you snap away!!

      • shasha40

        I just posted Christian Stolte’s tweet ! : D Priceless !

        • Baby

          OMG YES..

          • shasha40

            I’m thanking NOLAgirl , ordering her around and she obeyed . So glad to have my Awesome Bunkerittes when my brain doesn’ t want to work !

  • TonyOrtega

    Hearing an incredible disconnection story from a longtime ex. Amazing. Heartbreaking.

    • NOLAGirl

      Send that person our love. 🙁 Disconnection is so fucking vile.

      • shasha40

        Did I mention I hate the Fucking cult of Scientology and their fucked up ways !!! They know how to ruin a good party .

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Okay, now that’s a tease. Longtime as an ex, or longtime in and recently an ex?

    • EnthralledObserver

      I suspect there will be thousands more stories shared after this. 🙁

    • The Dude

      They all break my heart. But if enough people leave. They will find them soon. I hope.

    • aquaclara

      Glad you’re there. This is one of the most important reasons why.

      Other people are living it up, celebrating and partying. The proprietor is working.

      So in your honor, I’m clinking a glass, wetting a head, having a toast….sending you cheers!

      2015 is turning into a great year.

    • Gerard Plourde

      Thanks, Tony, for giving voice to those who have been wounded by their association with the cult. It can’t be easy for you to hear these things person to person.

  • The Dude

    Going out on the town with Mrs. Dude. Just wanted to pop in and check out my peeps! Tony’s post is expected, sadly. Let the party begin!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TBXv37PFcAQ

    F5

    • Baby

      Dude really quick..have fun..

      My GF daughter had a baby boy and named it Jagger Dylan.. thought you would like the name..

      • The Dude

        But does he have the moves like Jagger? LOL

        • Baby

          Absolutely..at least in his diapers..ha

      • The Dude

        Love it. My friend’s sister in cali had a little girl a while ago and named her Arya. I said like Tom Arya from Slayer? I was Joking. She said “You are the first one to make the connection! We love Slayer!”. I died laughing!

        • Baby

          That is hilarious.. My friend’s daughter is like a mad rocker.. Just beautiful..and she had that name picked out since High School.. She’s 28 now..and I’ll be damned..Jagger it is.

          • The Dude

            I am just going to name my kids like George Foreman did. All ”The Dude”. Dude I, Dude II..etc.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    OK, we know he was an ugly guy.

    On the plus side– He had a brilliant mind.
    He was a marvelous raconteur.
    Never a dull moment.
    Ideas flowed from him constantly.
    He had a complex personality.

    I got that off an interview with Eva Braun. And her boyfriend had a cute little moustache, too!

    • Science Doc

      He was the brains and she was the Braun.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        I am listening to the interview now. Some guys just have it. L.Ron Hubbard, superstud.

        • Destructor of Worlds

          She loved the Cray Cray

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I thought I spotted her watching from the curb when the Nazis marched through Skokie. Or maybe she was the one on the back of the motorcycle with the bike gang. I had to look up Cray Cray. It is a great term! I intend to use it often. As batty as a bed bug is just so 19th century.

      • BFM

        For a second I misread your sentence as…”He washed the brains and she was the….” And at that point my mind auto-corrected. Pity I didn’t get to finish it.

  • Ardent

    Oh what a load of codswallop Miscavige spewed in that mealy-mouthed speech. I wish he’s go MEST himself somewhere.

    • LOL! “Go MEST yourself!!” 🙂

  • Baby

    I’m ready for Hole’s theme song..but can’t find it..could someone post it please..thanks Baby

    • Observer

      Psst … it’s linked in the stuff at the end of every post …

      • Baby

        Hahahha I couldn’t find it for the life of me.. I know I saw it everyday.. somewhere! ha

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You know what they say … well, at least what Mr Hole sez, “Eyesight is the second thing to go.”

          • Baby

            Hahahhahahha.. and the dumb thing is I listen to it quite often.. I just didn’t know where I put it back..grrrrrroooooaaaaans

    • Ardent

      Hi Baby! I just dropped for a minute. Hope all is well!

      • Baby

        Oh sweet Columbo.. You know I love to see you.. Everything is fabulous.. smooches..xxoo baby

    • aquaclara

      Look up about an inch! It’s there!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Wondering where you were. The games have begun.

        • NOLAGirl

          I’m going to have to check in before bed. Gotta go pay Hubby some attention, cause I’ll admit now, I’ll be straight up ignoring him tomorrow. 🙂

          • Baby

            See you later sweet NO’Leans.. xoxox

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Me too. But I’ll be multitasking.

        • aquaclara

          Oh, I am here! My damn tablet-every time I refresh comments, i have to start from scratch, and re-log on, plus re-find where I left off.

          Love this night.

      • Baby

        Duh..hahahhahaha

  • Baby

    To Tony and all the Bunkers from Hole and Company

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ThyMMoOVDyw&list=UUOTK4ae6wrPbRbYynM95mjA

    • Scream Nevermore

      Gods, I’d enjoy slapping him!

      • Stacy

        I want to wash the Poof and Pfft out of his mouth.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Tony to Larry Wright: “Yeah, awards, films, trophies, blah blah blah, but do You have your own theme song?” heh heh

      • Baby

        Absolutely..I just love this Hole.. You guys did one hell of a job..It is an absolute classic. Your voice is so rich and throaty.. that bluesy sound.. just so beautiful.

        • April

          I’d sooo love to relax with a glass of wine in a piano bar listening to THDNE sing!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            I would to. Retired now and enjoy listening to all the great concerts I missed.

            Hey, does anyone know if Sundance producers put out an album of music that was played at concerts, like New Orleans Jazz Fest does?

          • aquaclara

            Actually, I am! Mr Clara and I are sitting next to the piano, wine in hand, music on….
            Happy Saturday!

            • Baby

              Oh Aqua.. I remember those days.. Absolute Heaven to me.. I gotta get out more. Have fun! Have a glass on me!

      • Stacy

        Have you found a place to post more of your beautiful singing?

      • aquaclara

        That’s it. And lucky for both Larry and Alex, we will share our Bunker fandom. But theme song? Nope. Only here.

    • The Dude

      That mug-shot of Denise is precious!

      • stillgrace2

        Like I’ve always said, that mug-shot is simply simian. The hunched shoulders, I can just imagine the long arms.

    • The Dude

      You have said before that the Sax guy was professional. WOW. I think that was the first time I actually sat down to absorb the whole thing.
      You were magnificent THDNE!
      Can you hear the hand clapping through the fringes!

    • Eclipse-girl

      The Slides that accompany
      Hunkered Down. (2013)

      With many thanks to Mr & Mrs Hole, L Wrong Hubbard, and Tony Ortega.

      1) New York City

      2) Bunker #1

      3) Bunker #2

      4) New York City

      5) Sydney, Australia

      6) Los Angeles Org

      7) Marc Headley, Laura DeCrescenzo, Claire Headley

      Marc, Laura, and Claire are all Exes. Marc wrote Blown for Good. Marc has helped the Bunker by giving the history of many of the short films made by Scientology. Laura is currently involved in a lawsuit in CA against Scientology. Claire has helped the Bunker go through the classes and coursework involved in “Going up the Bridge.”

      This photo was taken when they heard the summary judgment filed by Scientology against Laura was denied, Oct. 23, 2013.

      8) Unknown woman in front of Cincinnati Org wearing a “Where’s Shelly?” T – shirt.

      9) Mike Rinder, Mike Bennit Bitter Defrocked Apostate Air Force

      They flew over Clearwater, FL on Nov. 17, 2013, the opening of the Super Power building. Both men are Exes.

      10) Christian Stolte, Jason Beghe

      They are both actors who speak out against Scientology and are fans of the Bunker. Jason is an Ex. He made an a hour video with Mark Bunker. He is the source of “Show me a f*cking Clear.”

      11) Tony Ortega, Tory Christman

      Tory is an Ex who does speak out against scientology and video blogs under the name of ToryMagoo.

      12) Lean Remini Dancing With The Stars Oct. 14, 2013

      Leah publicly left Scientology in July 2013.

      13) Bert Fields, Brandon Ogborn TomKat Project in LA Nov. 2013

      Bert Fields is a lawyer for Tom Cruise; Brandon Ogborn is the author of the play.

      14) Marcia MacMillan interviewing Tony Ortega.

      15) Tiziano Lugli

      Tiziano is an Ex who has made a number of short films exposing Scientology.

      16) Denise Miscavige Gentile

      Denise is David Miscavige’s twin sister. This photo was a mug photo from her arrest in Jan. 2013.

      17) Clark Carr, president of
      Narconon International

      Narconon is one of many front groups of Scientology.

      People have died while in Narconon rehab facilities.

      18) Tom Cruise

      This image is from a 2004 film made for Scientology when Tom was presented with a Freedom Medal of Valor. This film was later put on the internet in 2008, quickly removed, and the cycle repeated itself. The action of swift removal caught the attention of Anonymous, who then started their campaign against Scientology.

      19) Jenna Elfman, John Travolta, Kelly Preston, Laura Prepon

      They are all celebrity Scientologists.

      20) David Miscavige

      The person in charge of Scientology, since 1986.

      21) Matt Lauer, Tom Cruise The Today Show aired June 24, 2005

      This shoop was done by J Swift; DM and the caption were added.

      22) TomKat Promo / Poster

      23) Karen de la Carriere, Tom
      Cruise, John Travolta, Jeff Augustine

      Karen is an Ex. Karen does videos exposing the abuses of Scientology on her channel SurvivingScientology on youtube. Jeff has done some great podcasts found on the same Youtube channel.

      24) Tony Ortega

      Holiday Wishes to the readers of the Underground Bunker (2013)

      25) Yannus Sufandi

      Yannus is the boyfriend of Manuela Olivieira.

      26) Michelle “Shelly” Miscavige

      Shelly is the wife of David Miscavige and has not been seen in public since her father’s funeral in 2007.

      27) Manuel Oliveira

      Subject of the following article http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/02/manuela-oliveira-a-story-of-seduction-intervention-and-betrayal/

      28) Mark Bunker, holding the “cans” of an e-meter

      Mark is an Emmy winning videographer, worked with Bob Minton at The Lisa MacPherson trust, and was given the moniker “Wise Beard Man” from Anonymous. He has his own channel on youtube.

      29) Austin Powers Meme

      30) Judge Dibrell “Dib” Waldrip

      This is the judge presiding over Monique “Mosey” Rathbun’s lawsuit in Comal Co., TX.

      31) Bunker Southern SP Society

      32) Tom DeVocht

      Tom is one of several high ranking Scientology executives who escaped and then started exposing the abuses the Scientology and David Miscavige.

      32) Brain Seymour

      Brian is an Australian journalist who has reported about Scientology in Australia.

      34) Jon Atack

      Jon is an Ex who wrote A Piece of Blue Sky and has helped the Bunker learn about the history and numerous myths of Scientology.

      35) John Sweeney, Tony Ortega

      John Sweeney is an award winning British journalist and author.
      He made two documentaries for BBC Panorama, “Scientology and Me” (2007) and “The Secrets of Scientology” (2010).
      John wrote The Church of Fear: Inside the Weird World of Scientology.

      36) Jonny Jacobsen with John Sweeney’s and Jon Atack’s books.

      Jonny wrote the blog “Infinite Complacency.” He helps the Bunker by keeping us informed about European court news about Scientology.

      37) Tony Ortega, Lawrence Wright, Richard Behar

      Lawrence Wright is a Pulitzer Prize winning author who wrote Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and the Prison of Belief.

      Richard Behar is the author of the May 6, 1991 Time magazine article The Thriving Cult of Greed and
      Power.

      38) P.Z. Meyer

      P.Z. Meyer is a noted biologist who reviewed The History of Man for the Bunker.

      39) Vance Woodward

      Vance is an Ex who helped the Bunker get through the 1st edition of Dianetics.

      40) People who Deserve to be Remembered

      A shoop of 7 people in a park setting created by Observer.

      From left to right, Quentin Hubbard sitting in the grass, Alexander Jentzsch standing, Robert Vaughn Young, Robert “Bob” Minton, Gabe Cazares on the bench, Ida Camburn sitting in a chair, Lisa MacPherson standing behind Ida. 2 Clearwater Oaks are in the background.

      Subject of the following
      article http://tonyortega.org/2013/10/13/sunday-special-remembering-some-people-who-mattered/#more-10883

      41) Dee McMurdie and Lori
      Hodgson

      Dee and Lori are mother and daughter, disconnected from their grandchildren and children (Lori’s children).

      42) Jefferson “Jeff” Hawkins

      Jeff is an Ex who wrote Counterfeit Dreams and Leaving Scientology.
      He has helped the Bunker understand Scientology Ethics.

      43) The Miscavige Hill Family

      Jenna Miscavige Hill and her husband, Dallas Hill, are both Exes.
      Jenna is the niece of David Miscavige and the author of Beyond Belief.

      44) Rocio and Luis Garcia

      The Garcias are suing
      Scientology for fraud, in Florida.

      45) Mike Rinder, Christie
      Colbran Wedding.

      Mike and Christie are both Exes. Mike was once the spokesperson for Scientology and now has his own blog.

      46) Monique “Mosey” and Mark
      “Marty” Rathbun Wedding.

      Marty is an Ex. He has written several books and writes a
      blog about Scientology. They were the victims of surveillance and harassment from the Squirrel Busters and others sent by Scientology. Monique is suing Scientology because of what she endured.

      47) Bunker #3

      This photo is used for the banner for the Bunker. Thanks to John Rickard for the use of this photo.

      • Baby

        WOW..thank you E..

        • Eclipse-girl

          You, and others, are very welcome.

          Its a way of testing? myself. Being able to identify people etc.
          Please excuse my OCD.

          Others, including THDNE and Tony O, helped me with a few of the slides

          • Baby

            E.. If it weren’t for my OCD and caffeine I would achieve nothing in the day..

  • Marie Claire Wolf

    Poor Sonia, such a miniscule caek…;-(

    • April

      For $100,000+ spent, personally I’d expect a bigger cake.

      • Scream Nevermore

        I’d want the entire bakery and cake shop for that money!

    • romanesco

      For once, Scientology is being considerate. After all, the poor thing has had to swallow so much already.

      • At least that’s a little more practical than the huge framed certificate?

    • beauty for ashes

      That’s a really good point! Is she celebrating alone too?

    • I made myself a from scratch cake and frosting today (I was baking so I’d have caek for tomorrow!)….mine was probably around a $1 or less—it’s a 8×8….no cult membership needed either! 🙂
      https://twitter.com/misstia/status/559142236349562880

      • Juicer77

        Looks really yummy!! Don’t let the kittehs stick their paws in the frosting XD

        • It’s safe in my ‘ideal’ pantry! 🙂 nice and cool in there and no kittehs!! ALL MINE!!!

  • TonyOrtega

    Headley’s holding court. Just glad I’m here to witness it. The man’s on fire. (And so is the chicken tikka masala.)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Court? Please tell Marc the Bunker says hi.

    • aurora50

      He has earned it!

    • Destructor of Worlds

      Oh NO she didn’t !

      http://www.jennaelfman.com/aids-quote/

      “Several times over the last few years, I have come across a quote
      that has been falsely attributed to me. Apparently, a no longer
      existing website, called the Daily Radar, stated that I had refused to
      sign something for a charity for the care of children with HIV and
      quoted me as saying “AIDS is a state of mind, not a disease.”

      Let me make this VERY clear:

      I have absolutely no idea what charity event this is referring to and
      more importantly; I have NEVER said anything even resembling this
      statement.

      This is a horribly hurtful and ridiculously untrue
      quote that I’m sorry I even had to repeat here. Not only would I never
      say such a thing, it is so scientifically untrue, it’s absurd. It’s
      like saying that clouds don’t reside in the sky. AIDS is obviously a
      horrible life and community-wrecking disease that rips millions of
      children’s and adult’s lives out from under them and needs to be
      eradicated from the cultures of the world that it destroys.

      It saddens me to think that anyone had thought for a second that I had said or even thought any such thing.

      Thank you,

      Jenna Elfman”

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        “Scientology is obviously a horrible life and community-wrecking disease that rips millions of children’s and adult’s lives out from under them and needs to be eradicated from the cultures of the world that it destroys.”

        And you can quote Me on that, Jenna!

      • Baby

        Uh Well You did say, ” How many Babies did you rape today..” Elfman

      • TonyOrtega

        I never reported that story, so she can’t blame me. Who did? Where does the quote come from?

        • Baby

          I have never read that before.. Get back to having fun Mr.

        • Chee Chalker

          That story has been around for ages and ages

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist
          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            The other rape baby story came from the person who she told it to, John Roeckner:

            “From: XXXXXXXXXXXXX
            Subject: a true story
            Date: 12.06.2006
            To: ahl@xenu.net

            Hello Just wanted to tell you my story that happened yesterday on walking to my car on Los Feliz Blvd. I was a total innocent lamb when I was verbally attacked by three people. I was walking to my car in a t- shirt that I made that has an image of Tom Cruise and the caption says Scientology is Gay! And on the Back of the shirt is a picture of John Travolta and the caption reads Very Gay! So as I passed a shirtless Bohdi Elfman and he started screaming at me saying how dare you make fun of my church! I replied just because you have tax exempt doesn’t make it a real church and the McDonald’s franchise is older. Then he got really mad and said that I had no idea what I was talking about and I said I am well aware and schooled on this cult. Then Jenna started to pipe in and asked me What Crimes I had Committed? I said I have not committed any crimes. She stared at me like a zombie and said the same thing. What crimes have I committed and then said have you Raped a baby? And I looked at her and said what? She repeated. Did you Rape a baby? I shook my head and then she said you Raped a baby! I was totally blown away meanwhile her husband was screaming at me and kept on saying that the reason I was saying this was because I was a homosexual (gee how did he know) to which I said what does that have anything to do with anything if I was gay or not? I kept on asking him about Xenu and he was about to punch me but he hesitated because they were another man who when instructed by the both of them would walk away and cover his ears when I asked them about L. Ron Hubbards involvement with Alister Crowley, Xenu and the death of Lisa McPersion. After a ten minute scream session when Bohdi said all he does is help people and why was I against that and Jenna kept on asking What is my crime…I shouted I know what your crime is. You make shitty Television Shows. Which Jenna screamed back “FUCK YOU”!
            True Story and I have a witness!
            Love
            John Roecker
            just google me! ”

            http://www.webquake.net/ocmb/viewtopic.php?t=51237&p=430100

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              And this, Jenna, and all your other rantings and ravings and ignoring the scientology silent children waiting on you on hand and foot at the Hibiscus at Flag like good little slaves is why people Believed you said it, even if you didn’t. Because that’s who you are and how you are and they’re wise to your icy stone heart. Jig is up.

            • Frodis73

              ^^^This is the perfect comeback. I, for one, believe the dumb ass did say it. I don’t put any faith in anything that comes out of that bitches mouth.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Trust me, she really is the ice queen.

            • Stacy

              Hadn’t heard this before. Fits in with everything else I’ve learned about Elfman here at the Bunker. What a piece of (cheap) work!

        • Destructor of Worlds

          Traced it at least back to 2000 on holysmoke

          From: psychguy@my-deja.com

          Subject: Significant advances in Alzheimer’s treatment

          Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2000 03:46:48 GMT

          Message-ID:

          http://www.holysmoke.org/cos/psychguy.htm

          “SCIENTOLOGY RELEVANCE: scientology believes disease is a state of mind
          (reference Jenna Elfman’s infamously heartless comment about AIDS).

          Only by clearing thetans through auditing can one successfully treat
          disease. That’s pretty cold–they don’t unhook you from the cash siphon
          even when you get sick. If only scientology works, where are the
          company’s independently-verified statistics on its successful relief of
          Alzheimer’s symptoms?”

      • Chee Chalker

        I wonder if she will deny the ‘baby rapist’ quote

        • Baby

          I just typed that Chee..

          • Chee Chalker

            Great minds and all that !

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        this is covered in Snopes. http://www.forum.exscn.net/archive/index.php/t-21871.html and http://msgboard.snopes.com/cgi-bin/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=101;t=000224;p=0 from 1/14/1999. I don’t know if she really said it or not.

      • Gerard Plourde

        According to Wikipedia Daily Radar shut down in 2001 and was no longer supported in 2010. I guess she just started surfing the web and is using her OT powers to access information unavailable to us mere mortals. Will she have to KR her web abilities the next time she goes for auditing?

      • BFM

        So, she didn’t say this? I always thought she had said it. Is it somewhere on the record?

        Oh I see further down thread there is no conclusive evidence.

      • Juicer77

        …. and the backpedaling begins. You cowards, all of you in the celebrity Co$. Go on and try to hide behind your money and fame, both of which are rapidly diminishing.

    • Artoo45

      He seems like someone I’d just want to hang out with. Funny, smart and brave. A good combo.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Claire stayed home, I take it?

  • stillgrace2

    Note to Miscavige: the show WILL go on … tomorrow … and there is not a single thing you can do to stop it.
    So much for cause over MEST.

  • nottrue

    Yeah we can hear them DM….They are laughing and having a great time….

  • Ella Raitch

    As it is that kind of day I will share another kitteh pic. Lola loves playing with empty boxes and has found in this one (18 can multi-pack) a secure, low stimulation environment

    • Baby

      Awwwwww adorable… that is a great picture..Looks like a Coca Cola Advert.

    • stillgrace2

      Lola has Betty Davis eyes! What a sweetie.

      • Stacy

        Yes stillgrace! That’s it exactly. Lola has Bette Davis eyes. 🙂

    • Stacy

      Look at those enormous, gorgeous eyes! Lola is beautiful, Ella!

      My kitties love empty boxes too. 🙂

      • Ella Raitch

        She is a real daddy’s girl.

    • Pepsicat

      I’m in love. Opposites attract!

      • Just Dee

        that was funny lol

  • Panopea Abrupta

    It’s the 25th in Europe already, right?

    So here goes, a letter to DM.
    ‘Cos it will NEVER be the same again.

    As Yeats said after the Irish rebellion in 1916,
    “All is changed, changed utterly.
    A terrible beauty is born.”

    My translation of the following into Shermanspeak will certainly seem clumsy to several native speakers. Nonetheless, and notwithstanding my downstat non-OT powers, I thought I would put ethics in on myself ruthlessly for the greatest good on the greatest number (47?) of dynamics. Accordingly I have the unmedicated gall to address this epistle to the Pope of $cientology himself.

    25th Bamuary, 2015

    Dear Despotic Minotaur,
    O Most Altitudinally Challenged,
    Administrator of Ecclesiastical Beatings Most Holy,
    Lord of the Blessed Isles beyond the IRS,
    Keeper of the Keys to The Hole and the RPF and the Bridge,
    He Who Must Be Obeyed,

    LRH listed 57 perceptics, about which you have laboured mightily in the Vineyards of the Lard and the Pastures of Plenty and the Pods of Postulating Pustulance so that the whales and the sheeple could be harpooned and flensed and fleeced in the appropriately named SP Building. There are, among the perceptics, several I would commend to your attention, especially on this august occasion. But more of those later.

    At this momentous event, today, Bamuary 25th, 2015, we mark a watershed moment.
    We stand at a turning point, a volte-face, the con-sequences of which will resonate down through the whole track and effect thousands of families, tens of thousands of individuals, freeing them from oppression and physical, emotional and spiritual pain.

    We meet in the kingdom of the Sundance Festival. And should anyone wonder what foresight and fortune brought us to this place that was always waiting – this place we were destined to reunite since the first tick of time, well, allow me to reiterate just who we are: We have come to unite, advance, support and protect humanity from the Scientology “religion” so as to achieve Total Freedom from it’s bonds and chains, from it’s imposition of penury and pain, from it’s lies and legal persiflage.

    Notwithstanding your extensive advertising campaign, in the New York Times , USA Today and the LA Times, and the forthcoming TV ads for the Superbowl, that is to say, in other words, the leading media, carrying your message to millions at a rate 47 times greater than at any time in the past, this HBO documentary promises to deliver like never before, while in full and all told, it will make for a global spanning of the message of truth to carry the weight of whole continents. Disconnection, emotional blackmail, coerced abortions, slave labour, fraudulent drug “treatment” centres – all these and more will slip from your grasp, as public opinion, the media and the law combine to crush you and con-sign you to the ignominy you so thoroughly deserve.

    Accordingly, and in no small measure, you may notice in the coming hours, days, weeks, months, that you have some heightened perceptions.

    I recommend, above all, attention and focus on the following eight:

    Personal size – the thetan feels very very small

    Muscular tension – the thetan feels great muscular tension in his small muscles.

    Pain – pain, pain, pain, industrial amounts, oceans of, galactic-sector sized

    Perception of conclusions (past and present) – this con is cluding, it is of the past, that is a present to all present

    Awareness of not knowing – the thetan will discover he don’t know jackshit.

    Awareness of importance, unimportance – the thetan will discover he is of vast unimportance

    Awareness of others – the thetan will discover he needs to learn this for the very first time, difficult but not impossible in one’s mid-fifties – good luck

    Emotional state of groups – the thetan will discover he has caused fear and loathing in Las Vegas, NY, LA, SF, FLA and virtually all geographic regions where his pestilential

    All your PIs, your Squirrelbusters, your Jenny Linson/Yeager or Pith/Stith attack dogs (neutered mutts, more like it), your OT 8 Moxons and your celebrity wannabes, has-beens and losing its won’t help you.
    All your hired hot-shot lawyers and former legal big-wigs won’t save you.

    We WILL do your cult in. Expect us.

    Our help is yours.

    published by PA as a humanitarian gesture, an anonymous non-prophet obscure cult critic (OCC) from the fringes of the interwebz.

    • Stacy

      “…unmedicated gall.” “this con is cluding, it is of the past, that is a present to all present.”

      Pan, I just love your posts. Thank you.

    • Eileen

      Wow.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      “Who would have thought such a great little journalist like you could destroy my beautiful wickedness?”

      http://youtu.be/uQJ8WrKnLUs

    • Chee Chalker

      They do love the word ‘utterly’

  • TonyOrtega

    Now we’re being treated to actual quotes that Miscavige uttered at Int Base. Oh the vocabulary on that man.

    You can probably imagine.

    • Destructor of Worlds

      “Worldleaders today lack the abilty to lead”

      -Little Dave

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Will it soon be in book form? “Going Miscavige”

      • Ella Raitch

        illustrated by Observer?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          but of course.

      • BFM

        Maybe become a phrase in the urban dictionary — going Miscavige substituting: going ballistic and a whole set of other expressions.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You betcha.

        • aegerprimo

          I submitted YSCOHB to UrbanDictionary.com 3 times (throughout 2014) and not accepted. Feel free to try!

          • BFM

            I will! Who knows it becomes a more accepted term after many views of Going Clear 🙂

      • Snake Plissken

        The State of Miscavige can not be attained on the Freewinds, it can only be attained in a Padded Cell while wearing a Straightjacket

    • Snake Plissken

      I seem to recall him having an unhealthy obsession with oral sex on Hollywood Blvd.

      • anonymous

        Living vicariously through his underlings no doubt.

        • Stacy

          Maybe not so vicariously. There’s that prostitute he shared with Pat Broeker. Ick.

    • Cosmo Pidgeon

      That must be great.

    • Pepsicat

      Oh the lulz!

    • Chee Chalker

      I hope you are taping this to share later!

    • Eponymous

      SCOHB is an ecclesiastical term

    • madame duran

      It’s very “ecclesiastical”, I’m sure.

    • Scream Nevermore

      Could you write them down and add them to the lists that MK keeps for us??

  • nottrue
    • BFM

      Keep rockin Tory!

    • Innoculated

      You go girl!

  • BFM

    Sigh, I feel left out :/ I whish I was there, at the Sundance Festival too. But I love you all “left out-ties” being here too, that is a little salve on the wound. And the little tidbits of Tony makes it bearable.

    • Stacy

      It’s tough, but we all have to bear it. ;/
      Lots of hugs and love will get you through, sweet man!

      • BFM

        Right back at you sweet, compassionate woman 🙂 Glad you are here!

        • Stacy

          I wouldn’t want to be anywhere else right now! Glad you’re here too! 😀

          • BFM

            Root for me the 29th of Januari, court day. Ironically its scheduled exactly at 2 pm (Thursday).

            • Stacy

              Oh, the irony!
              I wanted to ask, but didn’t know if doing so during a celebratory weekend would be ok or not. I’m definitely rooting for you. I’ll start “postulating” the correct judicial decision immediately.

            • BFM

              Thanks! I need every bit of spiritual powers I can possibly get. But I am confident in a positive result. I hear from my lawyer that child protection has made up a concise report on the effect of disconnection on my children. But I don’t know the content of it yet, nor does any of the lawyers — this was purely on the discretion of the Judge. She can do that, as it concerns minors and in that case the judge is allowed to consult any recognized institution. That, inquiry doesn’t look good for my ex (and thus the cult). But I don’t want to get my hopes up too high, I guess I will have to wait it out till Thursday 2 o’ clock sharp.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Best wishes for the best outcome for all. Scientology’s abuses, including those involving children and families, are about to made known in a big way, starting tomorrow but even more broadly when HBO airs, and next week when every major media outlet worldwide will be telling your story. Maybe not with your name, but it is still your story.

              It is all of our stories and now they are going to be heard by all, including judges, and cops, and school teachers, and lawyers. Scientology’s reign of desrtuction ends now. It is over.

            • BFM

              ^^^^^^ That’s precisely what I am thinking and hoping for. I hope the judge will come to a wise resolution to this as its really very complicated. Not just for the kids but the extended family too. Most clams and some not. We all are victim in this.

              Thank you for your best wishes.

            • Stacy

              From what you’re saying now and what you said last time, it does sound pretty good for you. You’re probably right about not getting your hopes up, too. That way, when the judge rules in your favor, you can have that wonderful surge of joy and truly savor the moment.

              I’m going to be thinking about you and the judge’s decision a lot this week. Probably many of us are. If there’s any truth to the power of positive thinking, we’ll carry you through! Hang in there BFM. You’ve got a lot of love and support here. 🙂

            • BFM

              <3

            • Eclipse-girl

              (((HUGSS)))

              Wishing for an outcome that you can live with

            • BFM

              Thank you EG! I hope so too, and an outcome that will be least damaging for my children. (which is not necessarily disconnection form our Scio-family). I just would like my children to be free in their choices and that I and parent be free in uttering my opinions on destructive things as the chult and that I have an opportunity to educate them. (which I am doing now anyway). I just wished my ex woke-up. That would be a blessing from the sky.

          • Baby

            Me too..

            [img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/greenstars.gif

            • Stacy

              Woohoo! That’s a happy happyface!
              love and hugs to you too, Baby! Who better to host the Bunker party than Tony’s “Bunker wife?” LOL! 🙂

            • Baby

              OMG hahaha.. Yes Happy face.. We all is happy. I wish I had a beer..damn.. I’m too lazy to go get one..

            • Stacy

              If that beer is just hanging out in the fridge in the next room, that’s darn lazy, lol! 😉
              If it’s down at the nearest 7-11 or gas station, I’m totally with you.

              Tell you what. I’ll send you a beer through the fringes of the interwebz. What would you like?

            • L. C. Spencer

              Do you have Top Secret Emoticon Source? That’s two tonight that I’ve never seen anywhere else.

            • Baby

              I just find them here and there along the way and save them LC.. cool huh?

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    What an interview. I love these stories…This lady had the hots for Hubs until he gave her the creeps. She found it fascinating that he built his megalomanic dream.

    • Stacy

      Funny, I get the creeps just thinking about anyone having the hots for old Tubby Hubbard. Yuck!

      • Baby

        Ewwwwwwwwwwwwwwww He was NEVER short of ladies.. just gross.. How could you kiss that mouth.. ugh, ugh… PUKE..

        • Stacy

          If I were forced to choose between LRH and DM, I’d choose Tommy Davis and will myself to death.
          My skin just crawled right off my body thinking about LRH’s lips…BLECH!!!

        • Draco

          Seriously, Baby! Did you have to say that???
          I am trying to have my breakfast here! Well, I was…

          • Baby

            oops sorry dragon..grrrrrrrrrrrrrrosss.. xo

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        Ha Ha …..he might not have been so tubby in those days…but yeah I get your point…. you have obviously a different standard of what is attractive in a man …..and megalomania, wild mood swings, a wife and child he blew off or two I guess, might indicate a number of problems on the horizon for you……I was fascinated as she described their relationship.

        • Stacy

          In one way, I have the same tastes as Barbara; the sexiest thing about a guy is his mind. However, I like guys with legitimate intellect and learning. Not LRH’s junk science pseudo-learning.
          NIght Cosmo. Have fun with the Bunker. 🙂

    • Eponymous

      I think he gave her the creeps from the start

    • BFM

      Actually, SHE gives me the creeps!

  • To save Tony the bother of posting the clam PI taking photos here it is [I don’t think it’s been posted yet]

    • cdub

      yes they want names of all who see it

    • …oh, and there’s this one

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        Great picture.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        You guys look all exterior or something! Does my heart so good to see this. It really does.

        • Snake Plissken

          That’s the look of being 100% Cult Free

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            and at the Sundance, to see Going Clear, by Lawrence Wright, produced film by Alex Gibney, and, oh yeah, In the movie! It’s all so freakin’ awesome.

          • Or having enjoyed a Double-Double lunch.

        • L. C. Spencer

          Exterior to Co$, is what that is.

      • Ella Raitch

        Hugs and high fives guys…

      • BFM

        Cult busters do it with grace and a smile 🙂

      • Baby

        You guys look like you are up to no good.. Shit eaten grins

        • Pepsicat

          Shit eaten fer sure!

          • Baby

            Pepsi.. I know you didn’t ask..but I’ve been the avi police lately and lightening up avis..

            Your cat is adorable..so if you want him lightened here he/ she is..

            • avi police?! do you have a badge? 😉

            • Baby

              Uh Yes..Here is my badge.. I always carry my DOX Tia..

            • well that’s some impressive credentials you have there!! 🙂

            • Baby

              Curtsies..

            • curtsies/bows, i get those confused….bows are easier than curtsies anyway—less chance to trip and topple over! 😉

      • Frodis73

        Look at those smiles. Especially the eyes…you can just see the joy. I always remember how awful Mike looked in that last doc w Sweeney. He is just totally different and I am so happy for him and his family.

        • Stacy

          They might possibly be tired, but neither looks like they’re going die of exhaustion, which is how Mike looked in the last Sweeney doc, as you point out.

      • daytoncapri

        Cool pic. Two brave guys.

      • Eponymous

        Love it!

      • aquaclara

        Those grins are great. Davey must be dying. Isn’t it great!

        • No pie faces!!

          • aquaclara

            No pie faces! Cookie faces, yes!

            I need a pic of an Eat n’Park cookie here, but as I am on a tablet, we will make do.
            Google Eat n’ Park. Or imagine a very tasty smiley face cookie.

            • there’s an Eat n’Park like 3 minutes from me!! I know what their cookies look like! 🙂 Only been there once years ago, but their cookies are on the banners outside!!

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        Deh were In aNd Out…Nobody’s going to pull dem Back In.

      • Robert Eckert

        Mormons aren’t very original. They find a salty lake, so they call it Salt Lake and they build a city there and call it Salt Lake City, and west of there is a valley, so they call it West Valley and they build a city there and call it …

        • i-Betty

          Heh 😛

      • Draco

        They looks like 2 naughty boys playing hooky!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      tks.

    • BFM

      For a PI I find him rather conspicuous. Or are they stuck in their “noisy investigation” part?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Hey there, Mr PI: You’re going to be famous now, picture plastered everywhere in tomorrow’s headlines. Doesn’t that make it, um, hard to continue your career now? Good, slimeball! Wait till your friends and family see it. I’d suggest you do an interview, spill the beans, now before the others write it for you.

        • BFM

          Or he might have his salary paid already, for a Billion years up front and doesn’t care too much about his image. Seriously…. I really can’t understand the people doing these kind of dirty jobs for the cult. I know, they all need to earn a living… but with so much out there about the cult.. I would think there is much to consider before doing this. Goes for PI’s and Lawyers alike. There IS such a thing as personal ethics and morals.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Um, who’s going to hire a PI that a) skulked and stalked anyone at the Sundance showing a film about how scientology hires PI’s to stalk journalists and former members – with his picture plastered everywhere. Makes it kind of hard to go unnoticed after that!

            • BFM

              Nobody of course, he has blown his cover (and he is kind of hard to miss anyhow — big bear) AND he has blown all his credibility too. But that was exactly what i was arguing. I think CO$ has filled his bank account (with whale money!) generously. Same thing goes for some of the CO$ lawyers…making real stupid moves.. anyone out there would go like, huh? But I guess these guys have sold their souls to CO$ blood money and don’t even care about it.

            • chukicita

              Getting in someone’s face costs extra, and not everyone is willing to do intimidation or wet work. He might not even know who he is really working for. In fact, I’d bet dollars to donuts that he doesn’t.

            • BFM

              Mhhh, i understand what you are saying. But he must be living in a cave (or a clam xD) if he hasn’t figured out yet that he is working for scamatology — that in itself would sort of totally disqualify him as PI.

          • My grandfather used to say that there are lawyers who will take a case even when they know that their client has a weak case, especially in civil court, because they’ll tell the client that they think the case has a good chance of winning. This turned out to be true

            As for the PIs, my late brother-in-law wanted to be one but he couldn’t master the test he had to pass to be one. This was in CA, I’m sure that in Utah the requirements aren’t as strict.

            Mormon PI—coming this spring to The Learning Channel!”

            • Stacy

              If you’d like to compare:

              California
              http://www.bsis.ca.gov/forms_pubs/pi_fact.shtml

              Utah
              http://publicsafety.utah.gov/bci/pi.html
              There may be reciprocity between these states.

            • According to this website, there is no CA -UT reciprocity.

              Currently, the following states have reciprocity agreements:

              California
              Florida
              Georgia
              Louisiana
              North Carolina
              Oklahoma
              Tennessee
              Virginia

              Presumably there is some sort of process whereby a PI from another state can come in and work as one in UT, or vice versa for states not on list with CA. I do know that Utah recognizes all weapons permits, FWIW.

            • Stacy

              Interesting. So either Mr. PI is local, or he has licenses for more than one state, most likely Cali and Utah.

      • Stacy

        I always want to envision PI’s as dressed and acting like Phillip Marlowe or Sam Spade from the ole pulp detective days. The guys CoS hires all look like high school dropouts who wouldn’t even be accepted into the most weaselly of biker gangs. Low standards.

        Edit: I should be ashamed of myself, judging people based on appearance. I would be, except this guy let CoS hire him. ‘Nuf said.

        • BFM

          Let me think, most weaselly, low standards, high school dropouts… yes, CO$ material 🙂

        • Frodis73

          Snickersnort!

        • TheQueenofBulgravia

          Or edumeckation.

          • Stacy

            Can’t fergut the importense of edumeckashun.

        • Ella Raitch

          Yeah – if this guy turned around I suspect we’d see butt-crack

        • cdub

          ex-go told me yrs ago their pi’s all bunch of losers

          • Stacy

            With the exception of the two who watched Pat Broeker for years. They seemed smart and capable. The rest seem like losers. But maybe that’s the general state of PI’s these days; most of them are losers.

            • chukicita

              Many are veterans. I’ve known literally dozens in my lifetime (several are relations), and worked for a few. I wouldn’t say the ones contracted by Scn, Inc. are the cream of the crop.

            • Stacy

              Does/ did the cream of the crop tell CoS “no?” I hope so.

            • chukicita

              There are PIs with integrity, and there are PIs without it.

            • Stacy

              I’m glad to hear the entire profession isn’t circling the drain. It’s just CoS getting their usual quality of service for being CoS and doing things like not paying bills, treating workers shabbily, etc.

      • chukicita

        He’s being a dick because that’s what he’s being paid to do at the moment. I come from a family steeped in detectives. My dad was a PI in multiple states. I worked for several PIs at one time or another (believe me there is nothing more boring than pulling an all-night stakeout and nothing happens). Depending on what the client wants you to do, a good PI will just melt into the surroundings and watch. Clearly, this guy was told to get in the target’s face.

        He might not even know who he’s really working for. I bet he was contracted by an attorney.

        • BFM

          “yep, the noisy investigation” at work.

        • aquaclara

          Thank you for the inside view. I learn stuff here every day.

      • That will be the “noisy investigation” one. Just to let them know that the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology can and will access flight details and hotel bookings and so on and so forth. I do wish the Co$ gets nailed for that, one day. It’s not like it’s legal, or anything. (Someone posted very recently about a change in US law which made that sort of joke even less legal in the US.)

    • Baby

      Lush.. I would ask you where in the hell you got that, but I won’t.

      • The typography and format is from a website that rhymes with acehook.

        • Baby

          Ohhh the old ” Acehook” wink wink gotcha

    • I think they should open the movie with this photo on the screen with a short description of what it is….

      • cdub

        take that, thr

      • shasha40

        YES !!!

      • Keeping Scientology Waning

        Is that a leisure suit?

  • Baby

    While working at the Biker’s restaurant the customers would sign the wooden fence I took a picture of this.. I have no idea who wrote it..or why, but I love it..

    • BFM

      Oh that Tory, she does get around, doesn’t she? 😉

      • Baby

        bawwwwwwwwwhahahha.. OMG of course..

        I saw Tory’s video and remembered this ( I had posted it before) but didn’t put 2 and 2 together..that little shit..

        • BFM

          Hahaha i didn’t too, until the thought hit me: what person in the whole world would write that phrase on anything on any occasion possible? 😉

  • Vaquera

    Earlier today I’d ask about the Vegas flier for the tribute to Sue Zenger and if it was in memory of or in honor of her. The answer is it was in memory of her.

    • Stacy

      RIP Sue Zenger. CoS can’t harm you any more, now.

  • TonyOrtega

    Headley just told Lena Dunham that she was great on Howard Stern.

    • Ella Raitch

      BFG is awesome. Lena doesn’t know how lucky she is

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        We know who the stars are walkin’ down Main Street. Or maybe they’re skipping by now.

      • Frodis73

        She would probably *love*to hear his story. I hope he told her about his book. Go Marc!

        • BFM

          Judging from the previous remarks of Tony, Marc holding court etc. and seeing the tweets. I think Marc is networking like mad and gaining allies in the battle against the evilness of scamology.

          • Matt in Atlanta

            I would hope he was there to have a good time,but I guess gaining allies is good too.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              He is a business man, too, with a family to support, so I can’t imagine he won’t be networking. But have no fear … he’s ex Sea Org. We can multitask like the Tasmanian Devil.

            • Matt in Atlanta

              Is Marc in the documentary?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Hope so.

            • Matt in Atlanta

              Funny story. Last week I was sitting at a lunch meeting and the subject of the book “Going Clear” came up. This from someone who had no idea i had read it. Convo got really interesting as we at the table are all in the film industry and the topic of the documentary being shown at SunDance was discussed. Wogs are VERY aware of this exciting film.

            • i-Betty

              Now, that’s rather wonderful to hear 🙂

            • BFM

              I bet every dime I have that he is.

            • BFM

              Networking on something he is so passionate about (plus making a buck) is having a good time in my book, in fact, it cant be better;) Plus, he knows he has a whole bunker cheering him on.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist
            • BFM

              I foresee the term blockbuster connected to him somewhere in the future. (no joke, I really do)

    • Matt in Atlanta

      Head up the hill to the Wasatch Brewery and have pint.

  • A Guest

    Yup. Just fact checked Tony’s comment and here it is… (F5)

    • BFM

      It is SOOOO good to have our really big canons there. Generates that much more buzz and interest.

  • Juicer77

    In Park City, Utah there is a table full of SP’s including our Proprietor, sharing stories, laughing and learning, healing from old wounds and having a joyful time. This gives my heart a happy. Have a wonderful time, all of you. These are the things that make life worthwhile.

    • Eponymous

      No no no, the things that make life worthwhile are massive gilded stage props! (F5, image)

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        What a fabulously ridiculous photo…thanks.

        • Eponymous

          Anytime:)

      • BFM

        I don’t know but this picture pops one of DM’s nicknames into mind…. when you can see the phallus on his head.

        • Eponymous

          Like this ?(F5, image)

          • BFM

            Hahahah yeah, close 😀 LMAO!!

          • Stacy

            DM would love it if the world thought he ejaculated golden angels. He probably thinks this about himself regularly. Narcissistic maniac.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Bwahahahaha. Now I know why no one seems to be able to find out just how Miscavige sends out all his dildos to sceery wimmen.

          • Eponymous

            They are secret ecclesiastical dildos

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              All I know is Amazon wouldnt tell me who the thoughtful person was that was trying to ship it to me. Little did I know it was a flying Dave’s Dildo.

          • BFM

            hahahaha! You nailed it and THAT was funny :D!

        • i saw ’em more like pancaked balls….but wings is much better!!! a flying dick!

          • BFM

            Hahah, we all basically were thinking along the same lines 🙂 Davey the FLY-ing Dick.

        • Those aren’t wings, they’re phesticles!

      • chukicita

        Sweet baby Xenu. Does he have any idea how redonkulous he looks with a giant psych drug erupting from his head?

        • BFM

          They put psych drugs in dildo’s?

        • Stacy

          You think it looks like a drug capsule too! So do I!

        • Baby

          Did you have to mention baby and Xenu together chuk.. haha

      • Stacy

        What exactly is the thing in the center supposed to be (not Miscavige)? It looks like it possibly is meant to be a microphone, though to me it looks most like a drug capsule. Oh, the irony!

        • Eponymous

          It’s a microphone, and it’s one of their trademarks.

          • Stacy

            They need to work on their microphoneness.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              It’s a 40’s mike, like the ones used on radio broadcasts.

            • Eponymous

              They are trying

            • Eponymous

              (that previous post was an image, F5)

            • Eponymous

              See my last post, (image didn’t post correctly)

          • Jimmy3

            Yeah, well, decent, self-respecting people keep those types of microphones confined to their privacy of their own bedrooms. They don’t bring them up on stage in front of millions of people like that.

          • cathy from encino

            Maybe next time use a golden telex.

        • Draco

          Thought the same thing 🙂

      • not phallic at all….nope, there’s not a big dick on top of a little dick….no sirry…..

      • PickAnotherID

        Gak! I always wondered what happened to those left over Nermberg rally stage props!

      • Newiga

        Is it just me or does it look like DM has massive golden wings and a huge golden micropho pope hat?

        • Draco

          Looks more like a giant pill – Vistaril maybe?

          • Newiga

            That’s it! I think you are right, it is a Vistaril pill for sure. 😉

        • Scream Nevermore

          I thought it was a giant golden dildo balanced on his head…

      • made me laugh 😀

    • Baby

      this is how I picture them..

      [img]http://www.pic4ever.com/images/mocantina.gif

      • BFM

        hahaha soo cute! Good times never felt so good 🙂

        • Baby

          Sweet Caroline…

          • BFM
            • Baby

              Awwwwwww thanks fuzzy.. I love Neil Diamond.. That’s how HIP I am..hahaha

            • BFM

              I like Neil Diamond too, are you in some way implying that’s unhip? huh?? 🙂

            • Baby

              Well.. it depends what your definition of hip is..hahhaha .. Without mentioning names there are those on the Bunker that would throw tomatoes at us..ha

            • BFM

              You like spaghetti Bolognese? If yes, help me catch those tomatoes and ill cook you dinner. And we will play Neil Diamond while eating; sticking our tongue’s out to those who think Neil is unhip.

            • Baby

              oooooooooooooh yes..absolutely.. ha..

  • Jimmy3

    I don’t believe this… I just got a text from a relative of Steve Sundance, and he says they’re all wigging out of their minds over there because they don’t actually have a copy of the documentary to screen. Says when they ran a projector test, what they actually saw was something called Growing Steer, a no-budget, straight-to-VHS docu about nutritional requirements for raising cattle. I called bullshit, but he said no, it was mostly the opposite.

    Could this the osa mayb?

    • Ella Raitch

      Is there beefcake?

      • Jimmy3

        It’s in Utah, not Texas.

      • Baby

        Just Tony..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Scientology’s mystery Cash Cow revealed!

      • chukicita

        I saw this one – at the Manatee County Fair. There was a VM tent there. (The cow didn’t have anything to do with the VM tent. But I was hoping it would charge the tent and moo.)

    • Captain Howdy

      Office of Steer Agriculture?

    • chukicita

      I think I’m gonna need the industrial-size popcorn maker for this.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I heard it was “Glowing Sneer”.

      • chukicita

        Growing Fear?

        • Jimmy3

          Going. Cheer!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          “Going Miscavige”

    • Stacy

      Beers, Steers and Queers?

      http://youtu.be/HyGp98Xoq9g

  • 1subgenius

    I go away for a while to come back and learn there’s been some CoS PI funny business.
    Oh boy! Life imitating art imitating life.
    At a film festival.
    This should be a movie.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I cant wait to see what tomorrow brings.

    • Without Tommy Davis lurking in the hotel lobby, it’s just not the same!

  • Panopea Abrupta

  • MaxSpaceman

    Main Street’s hummin’ right about now nigh on 8:30pm (CST)

    • Jimmy3

      MST

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        All MEST up time?

        • MaxSpaceman

          I’m All MEST’d up! Got the number right and the zone wrong !

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Funny, because hubby was just asking and googling it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              “All MEST Up” – 1957.

              A well’a bless my soul
              What’sa wrong with me?
              I’m itchin’ like a man in a fuzzy tree
              My friends say I’m actin’ wild as a bug
              I messed up
              I’m all MEST up
              Mm mm mm, mm, yay, yay, yay

              Well, my hands are shaky and my knees are weak
              I can’t seem to stand on my own two feet
              Who do you think of when you have such luck?
              I messed up
              I’m all MEST up
              Mm mm mm, mm, yay, yay, yay

    • A Guest

      Same time, different view…

      • MaxSpaceman

        Nice!

    • BFM

      Buzzing! There should be in excess of 45.000 folks in that place for the festival. Moreover, there are some really big names attending — not good for the PR of the Clams.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Sitting here at Crabtastic… wishing it was Sundance. See… my Bunker additction is starting to affect my enjoyment of other things. 🙁

    • Baby

      OH EO.. The first step is to admit you have a problem..

      • EnthralledObserver

        First step accomplished – still not willing to give up my addiction – now what?

        • Draco

          Enjoy it!

        • Baby

          Shit if I had the answer I wouldn’t be sitting here.. xo

  • Stacy

    I have to say good night to all the Bunker festivities. It’s way past my bedtime. You guys will have to whoop it up without me and tell me all about it in the morning. 🙂

    http://25.media.tumblr.com/a1209bad7abdeea7f4069e60be5fada7/tumblr_mgr6me4Mnx1qa18ulo1_500.gif

    • EnthralledObserver

      Night 🙂

    • beauty for ashes

      I Can’t stop watching, I think it is hypnotizing me. OOOOh Nooooo! LOL
      G’night professor!

  • Vaquera

    Can anyone explain what’s going on in this scio photo? I can’t tell what it is.

    • Stacy

      Trying to make it look like there’s a printer feed tray attached to the computer monitor? Maybe trying to imply that all input into CoS results in technology?

      That’s my guess, based on nothing but the pic and sleepiness. Hope someone figures it out. Night Vaquera. Enjoy the fun tonight. 🙂

      • Baby

        night Stace.. I’m going too.. xoxo tomorrow is a big day.. yawwwwwwwn

    • douglas mest?! oh he’s so clever!! #wow and if you say interesting with TWO r’s you KNOW it’s INTERRESTING!!!

      • Jimmy3

        It’s a typo. Not the two r’s, but the extra s.

        • i didn’t even see the extra s….insert eye roll….HAH!

    • Jimmy3

      It’s just a TV set up to play Scientology videos, I think. Like the ones they have in their orgs.

      • Yes.

        • Jimmy3

          Evening Dodo.

          • Evening Jimmy.

            • aquaclara

              You don’t sleep, do you? Well, tonight is a big night. I know. This. And did you watch the USFS nationals tonight? I remember you said you follow skating. A great night.

            • (: I was joking about skating. I used to watch it as a kid. And great night it is, Aqua!

      • Vaquera

        Thx. I was looking at it on my phone and couldn’t figure it out.

  • Guest

    What is Tommy doing during Sundance?

    • BFM

      Keeping his hands to his ears and his eyes wide shut and throwing away all media-related devices — damned SP press is out to nail his religion. But he knows his pal and he are truly the two big beings that will salvage the planet as soon as he dares to pull his head out of his arse.

    • Keeping Scientology Waning

      Tom..please do not get oil on your Ducati leather jacket….it is a nightmare for the dry cleaners.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      • niblet had to stand on a box for that photo too….so i heard 😉

    • Patting niblet on the back saying “there there” in a soothing voice?

    • Observer

      ..

      • Baby

        OMG.. hahahha.. I am going to bed and I can’t imagine a better picture than this to end my day..

        Thanks Obs.. You are up late tonight..

        • Observer

          I always let my inner night owl out on Friday and Saturday nights. The rest of the week I’m in bed by 9. Gotta love middle age!

          • BFM

            Well, soon you can replace most of your vital organs, so I don’t know what middle-aged is. Are you like 175 already? ;P

            • Observer

              Are you kidding? I’m a trillion-year old thetan!

            • BFM

              Just a trillion? I am in the quadrillions, so, that makes me the senior here. 🙂

            • Jimmy3

              That’s one of those procedures you’d wanna set your drink down for, I imagine.

            • BFM

              They might take the development even to a point that you could continue zipping your martini during.

      • Wogalistic

        LOL!!!!! That’s great!!!

      • BFM

        Muahahah! Bunch of tough OTs there! Somewhere over the rainbow…. (sorry, bromance song came to mind)

      • Eponymous

        Is that 3-D?

      • Vaquera

        Bronies!

      • Matt in Atlanta

        Well THAT is different.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        DM is so twisted that he’d probably eat this right after the ride:

      • George Layton

        I’d love to see that on a giant billboard as your entering Park City.

        • Bleuler

          I love the shoop Observer. I would like to see it as wall decoration in bars, preferably right at the entrance. The category of bar should be one where people who are no longer in he closet hang out. Anyone with contacts and a good printer?

      • madame duran

        My dreams are going to be VERY interesting tonight. Hilarious shoop, Obs.

      • texasexpat

        I don’t post much, mostly lurk, but this is perfect, thanks for making me smile today.

    • Going by the bromance going on in the first pic It should be Who is Tommy doing during Sundance?

    • Scream Nevermore

      I wish these two would just get a room, and spare the rest of us all the drama!

  • pts4sho

    I heard kirstie slipped and fell on a jelly doughnut. she tried to raise her bloated flab off the floor with her super powers. even that couldn’t raise the tonnage from the floor. tom is on his way for some touch assist.

    • cdub

      touch this

      • Baby

        Do do do do.. ” Can’t Touch this..” Do do do do..” Can’t touch this..”

        • BFM

          From Neil Diamond to MC Hammer in minutes? Lol, baby, you are extraordinary in soooo many ways 🙂 xo

          • Baby

            Hahahha I have a Plethora of Musical inclinations fuzzy..

            • BFM

              Me like baby 😉

            • Baby

              baby likes fuzzy.. and baby is going to bed..when I ever speak in the 3rd person again you have permission to cold cock me.. I am so tired.

              My fat ass has been sitting here all day.. xoxo night sweetie..

            • BFM

              nighty night, sleep tight. xoxo

              Fuzzy never cold cocks baby! We is friends.

    • valshifter

      isn’t she supposed to be at Sundance? I would like to see her face when facing all Supresives around her.

  • Eponymous

    Scientology is the master religion (F5, image)

    • Panopea Abrupta

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        Is dude on the right a joke? For real, like a Halloween costume of a Co$ “reverend”? Dude looks like Father Ted got cast as bad guy of the week on The Next Generation at the last minute. It’s like they asked for Catholic clerical gear, but more evil. What’s with the shoulder points?

    • Eponymous

      Of course this original image was modified from a Scientology magazine

    • L. C. Spencer

      Ooof! Is that a less-than-reverential depiction of Muhammad I see?

      • Eponymous

        The image is from CoS, ask them!

  • Baby

    Interesting

    http://saltlakecity.craigslist.org/tix/4862189007.html

    Should I contact Derek..?

    • Frodis73

      Oh yeah! He really wanted to go…

      • Baby

        shit I gotta find his avatar… to let him know..thanks doggie..

        • Frodis73

          Anybody know if he’s on Twitter?

          • Aslan’s Own
            • Baby

              Shit..I don’t have FB.. Could someone give him the link.. xoxo Hi Pie Lion..I am going to bed..

            • Frodis73

              I have fb, but we are not friends and he has it set so only friends can post. Sent request, but he won’t know it’s me. Will send him a msg, but it will not go directly to his inbox. We tried!!

            • Aslan’s Own

              Found him on twitter, but I don’t have an account. Can someone post it?

              https://twitter.com/De_Rex86

            • I tweeted him

            • Aslan’s Own

              Thanks!

            • got this

            • Aslan’s Own

              Cool!

            • Frodis73

              Yay!! Good luck D, I hope you can make it!

            • Frodis73

              Done!

            • Aslan’s Own

              Cool! It would be neat if he could go.

            • Frodis73

              I hope so too, he was bummed that it was sold out. I love how quick the Bunker is on something like this to get him the info.

            • Aslan’s Own

              We’re kind of like a family in how we care about each other!

            • Baby

              Oh yay..thanks doggie..you are the best doggie.. xoxo now I can sleep..

            • Frodis73

              Sweet dreams hon. I’m going to try and head to dream land myself…just think this time tomorrow we will know all kinds of stuff about the movie!!!!!

            • Baby

              I know honey.. Yes we did.. I’m shutting off my computer I am like brain dead at this point..

            • Aslan’s Own

              Hi Baby. I’m getting ready to go to bed too. Just watched the weather and I’ll have to be shoveling snow tomorrow afternoon…..but I have to be in the Bunker! Not sure what to do about that.

            • Baby

              I’m sorry..I should not have left you with that honey..sigh

            • Aslan’s Own

              You didn’t leave me with anything! I LOVE doing internet research — and no, it’s not stalking, thank you very much! 😉 — so it was a good challenge! A few people have tweeted him so he’ll hear about it. So cool that you found that ticket!

            • Draco

              Bunker trumps snow every time 🙂

            • Aslan’s Own

              Bunker trumps just about everything!

          • Baby

            I can’t find him doggie.. seriously.. I am so tired I have got to go to bed..

            If anyone can find him.. please give him the link to Craigslist..It was just posted 4 hrs when I found it..thanks.. So fuckin tired..

            • Vaquera

              He just posted some pictures to his Instagram account 3 hours ago. He’s in Cali.

            • beauty for ashes

              Do we have to swaddle you to get you to go to sleep?
              Take care baby, tomorrow’s gonna be sweet! Goodnight!

          • Scream Nevermore

            He is, and I’ve sent him the link.

        • Phytophile

          Is this him?

          • Baby

            yes it is..

    • outraged

      why not?
      can;t hoit.

    • You’re so sweet! Thank you! Some peeps reached out to me on Twitter and Facebook. I e-mailed the person about it, but no reply. So it may have sold already by the time I reached out. I am keeping an eye on craigslist though! I never thought of that. Thanks so much for thinking of me!

      • Baby

        Thanks Derek.. We were all a buzz..ha.. I googled Sundance to see what was going on..and the ticket popped up.. I’m like..OMG OMG..DEREK.. got to get to him..

        Then I thought..shit what if it was a fraud.. a fake ticket from a scalper that was going around..

        Good Luck sweetie.. That would be so much fun!

        • I was a little bit sketchy about it too, but s/he never responded so we shall never know.

          • Baby

            The only thing to me that gave it legitimacy was the price of $20..

            but you have your critical skills back so I wasn’t worried..

            • I appreciate that vote of confidence. I usually feel a situation out and go with my gut feeling. There have been a few occasions where I had to ignore it because I had no choice but to proceed, but for the most part, I’m not losing out on anything by saying, “No.”

            • Baby

              Yep.. I agree.. I am just so proud of you..I know it’s been rough..but you are a good man.

  • Suzy

    Can’t wait to go to bed so I can wake up and read more comments….ooh I have it bad

    • Eclipse-girl

      like many of us.

    • Frodis73

      Sweet!

    • Ardent

      That’s what we’re looking for! Nice find, Media!

  • well, as it’s Sundance here’s a pic I just came across….

  • jho g

    Oooh here’s more from Barbara’s journal and her interviews ….very intersting!!!

    http://www.scs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews/barbkaye.htm

  • BlondesAreDumb

    Would love to know about the documentary related to Mormons. Anyone find any reviews or information?

  • BlondesAreDumb

    Bunkeroos, wake up, wake up! Sundance web cam is a happening place! Oh well, at least a celebrity cat lover is there (from Associated Press):

    “NIKKI REED IS CRAZY FOR CATS, COY ON ENGAGEMENT”

    “Nikki Reed was coy when asked about her rumored engagement to actor Ian Somerhalder, saying only, “Life is really great right now and I’m so excited for the future.” But she was effusive about her love for animals.
    The entertainer came to Sundance on Saturday to host the third annual Catdance Film Festival, a celebration of cats on screen that benefits the American Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals.

    Reed says she’s been an animal advocate since she was a kid.”

  • madame duran

    Had this thought on my mind today: any remaining celebrity Scientologist can’t claim they had no idea about their cult’s abuses or documented history once this documentary gets out (honestly, they never could claim that excuse given the existence of the Internet and the amount of years they’ve spent within the organization). Someone like Cruise or Alley have a history of blocking or controlling “entheta” information from reaching them. Their refusal to confront and consider other evidence regarding their faith is gonna bite them in the behind one day.

    • Ella Raitch

      Hopefully ‘one day’ is the moment word gets out about what this film claims

    • Ardent

      I wonder what sort of sound Kirstie’s brain will make when it explodes? Something like a wet fart?

  • madame duran
  • madame duran

    I’m predicting that tomorrow’s blog entry will beat the previous record of “most comments posted” on the Bunker. Just a hunch. And yes, I’m a night owl. An excited night owl.

    • Ardent

      I’m not gonna take bets on that, Madam Duran! I think we’ll all have our faces pressed against monitors, stabbing excitedly the keyboards of our computers. I’m very excited. But I DON’T get HBO!! (Stream of invective).
      By hook or by crook I must see this film!

  • Toni m

    Today is a great day for us. I wish the best for Mr Ortega and everyone that participated in the making of this documentary. Days like today give hope to the people that are waiting to be reunited with their love ones. Another day that the only right thing to do is to be at the Bunker waiting for news from Sundance. And waiting too for the story of disconnection Mr Ortega will share with us. Edit. I do not expect the story will be here today. Today is Sundance’s day.

    • A Guest

      Good morning, Toni m!

      I’m so glad you are here today, out in the open with us. Although you are “absent” from the comment section now, please know I often feel your quiet presence here – especially whenever I see one of those mysterious “guest” votes. But still, you are missed.

      I hope you are well and every little thing in your family and life are going well. I also hope you enjoy your day with us.

      • Toni m

        Thank you guest.

  • First Last

    Zero,
    zilch, zip, nil, nichts Days !!!!
    Let the fun start

  • It is now the 25th! I can contain myself… (I’m going to have to, aren’t I?)

    • BlondesAreDumb

      No reason to — let it rip! Day of celebration!

  • Lurkness

    The Bunker was well represented at the opening of the play “Disconnection”. It was extraordinary–very well written and the actors were superb! Highly recommend it to anyone, especially the Bunker denizens. Refresh for some Photos of Tory with the playwright Allen Burton and two of the actors Robert Hughes (Oldman aka Hubbard) and Luke Cook (Nick of the Sea Org).

    • Thank you very much for the update, Lurkness!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Tory. Looks. FABULOUS!

      Wear that deep purple more often.

      • i-Betty

        Agreed, it’s a gorgeous colour on her. When did you turn into a fashionista, Douglas?!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I’m a designer. But not clothes.

    • Lurkness

      Tory also has her extended review up at her Youtube site…

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2qqdKFDsCQ&list=UU__gcXYVQlmVocNLZykibUw

    • Newiga

      Tory <3

    • Ella Raitch

      Wow – good for you.

    • aquaclara

      Thank you! Love the pics and hearing how great this show is. Wish I were there….

      What a terrific play. This is already a great day.

    • shasha40

      Awesome ! I’m so peanut butter and Jea- lous ! ( nah , but am glad you shared with us , thanks ! )

  • After a few hours, Sunday Funnies will never be the same.

  • 0tessa

    ‘Going Clear’ has much more chance to ‘clear’ the planet than the Scientology cult.
    ‘Clear’ meaning clearing the planet of the Scientology Cult.

    • Ardent

      I sure hope so!

  • Scream Nevermore

    OK, I am awake, and eating breakfast. The snow has gone from outside. Can it get any better? Why, today, yes, it can!!!!

  • farmland

    For some reason I think this is how the cult leader will lie to himself, just to get through today! http://youtu.be/WRu_-9MBpd4

    • farmland

      Wow, I really am tired! LOL

    • valshifter

      LOL!!!!! perfect, what is the white stuff in his nose? does the captain do that?

      • farmland

        How he acts? Wouldn’t doubt it, after all rules don’t apply to him.

    • Draco

      Haha! Perfect – I hope this song plays in his head 24/7.

    • i-Betty

      Brilliant!

  • EnthralledObserver

    Bunker… Sundance… Going Clear… Bunker… Sundance… Going Clear… Bunker

  • valshifter

    I wander if David is gonna watch Going Clear. He has to right? In private by himself doors locked and in the dark. He probably will buy a bootleg at MacArthur Park, so there is not track of who bought it. He might go clear himself just by watching that movie.

    • farmland

      He can’t be all alone. He needs his BFF Tom for a shoulder to cry on.

      • Scream Nevermore

        Do you think they’ll be kissing in the back row?

        • farmland

          Maybe, but they should call John, no better teacher then him you know!

          • Scream Nevermore

            Two words come to mind – ‘threesome’ and ‘spew’!

            • farmland

              Hope they have 1 of the many cameras to catch it.

            • farmland

              Thanks, now that I have visions of sugar plums dancing in my head, I’m going to bed for a few hours

      • Ardent

        Dave can only reach Tom’s knee…

    • Draco

      I think Alex Gibney should send him an autographed copy. Signed by himself, Tony, Marc, Mike etc. I think that would be a really nice gesture. 🙂

      • Ella Raitch

        …the least he could do, really

      • Ardent

        Actually, I wouldn’t be surprised if the film will be:
        A- demanded by the cult as ‘evidence’
        Or,
        B- sent to the demented jackass as a courtesy.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Sunday 25th of January

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,
    I seem to have a problem creating the Regional List, I will work on it (no guarantee of success), meantime, please use the other lists.
    The score for yestersday, 58 new/refreshed ads bringing the Last 4 Days DOWN from 444 to 421 and the 7 days Regional List problem!.
    RedX write up : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
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    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    Fallout3 enhanced by Bob Kåre for RedX

    • Pierrot

      The 7 Days Regional List is sorted for Today, hopefully it will behave tomorrow.
      UP from 650 to 654

  • Dave Reams

    Interesting to hear Psychologist Barbara Jane Klowden’s impressions and diagnosis of LRH. Maybe someday the diary she alluded to will come to light and the world will learn more of Ron.

    I could not help thinking however, if she had not been so compassionate in caring for Ron during his episodes of depression and psychosis, in Palm Springs for example when she provided the toilet paper and wiped Ron to produce the “tone scale”, Scientology might never have been born and David Miscavige would have become famous for some other crimes, perhaps as a polititian? a serial rapist? a side kick to Ricardo Montalban on a TV show about people who pay lots of money to live out their fantasies?

    • Scream Nevermore

      If the old adage that ‘by his works ye shall know him’ is true, then we know all we need to of Ella Raitch, when we look at the cherch he left behind. A mile-high pile of elephant shite would be more fragrant.

    • Dave Reams

      “Ron was a witty racconteur and when he was finished he just went to sleep without satisfying me”

  • Scream Nevermore
    • Ella Raitch

      OP by Larry Anderson, no less.

      • Scream Nevermore

        Yup. A good start to today’s events, I think…

      • Way cool! “Re-oriented” he is: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38198-Review-of-Allen-Barton-s-quot-Disconnection&s=9cdc646c40c1ad7815af268ac4370ad8

        “Hi everyone…

        Larry Anderson here of “Orientation” fame (or perhaps more aptly,
        “infamy”). It is a rare thing for me to post on Scientology-related
        blogs or forums, but I felt compelled to reach out to the “Ex” community
        and share an urgent message about a remarkable experience I had last
        night.

        I had the great privilege of attending the final “preview performance”
        of a truly brilliant and razor-edged work of theatre penned by former
        Church-member, Allen Barton. The play is called “Disconnection” and
        it’s officially opening tonight (1/24) at the Beverly Hills Playhouse
        and runs Fri, Sat, and Sun evenings through March 1st. Run… don’t
        walk… to get tickets to this play. Or better yet, go here: http://skylighttheatrecompany.com/pl…onnection.html

        You have only 14 opportunities (performances) to experience this
        extraordinary work which is why I rushed home to get this notice out
        without delay.

        I won’t spend time here providing details about plot, setting, or even
        the fascinating story of what motivated Allen to indict the CO$ so
        audaciously in this piece. For that, please check out these posts on
        Rindersblog: http://www.mikerindersblog.org/disconnection-the-play/ and the Underground Bunker: http://tonyortega.org/2014/12/19/chr…ms/#more-18720

        Instead, I will just state that throughout two mesmerizing hours of
        theater, performed by six extraordinary actors under the guidance of
        their skillful director, Joel Polis, Allen Barton leaves no stone
        unturned and deftly exposes everything from Church recruitment tactics,
        LRH’s falsified history, stalking and harassment of defectors, Gerry
        Armstrong, the Hole, staff beatings by the “Chairman”, the RPF, the
        relentless money grab to sell lectures, meters and services, declaring
        people SPs, the outright perversion of “the greatest good for the
        greatest number”, the journey from finding one’s ruin to the creation of
        a full-blown mind-controlled robot, and of course – Disconnection (the
        main thread that affects each character in the play) including an
        astonishing monologue from The Founder himself.

        Allen Barton has accomplished something truly extraordinary with this
        brazen indictment of Scientology and its corrupt Management. He has
        successfully pared the Scientologese and cult esoterica to a minimum and
        found (for the most part) the “wog” means of expressing these concepts.
        Regardless of the make-up of the audience, the experience is an
        altogether disturbing, thought-provoking, fascinating, and frightening
        one (speckled throughout with wonderful moments of humor and irony),
        that can be enjoyed equally by those with first-hand experience in the
        sect and those with only fleeting awareness of the subject.

        If you live anywhere near enough to Los Angeles, or were planning a
        visit sometime in the future, or, if you have the freedom and the
        wherewithal to just pick up and go, make every effort to get here in the
        next month to see this play. It’s an experience you will not forget. As
        an ex-Scientologist, “Disconnection” struck me at my very core and
        moved me to tears.

        Larry Anderson

        TR Film.jpg

        Allen – also a fine actor – starred in the cult Tech Film “Auditor
        Beingness”, circa 1998. Here he is with Jason Beghe, myself, and Jeff
        Pomerantz, playing supporting roles as Church execs.”

      • Ella Raitch
        • Larry just took his “re-orientation” to the whole new level. Perfect timing.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        OOOHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH. Burnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnn

    • aquaclara

      Outstanding. What a great review. And most kind of Larry Anderson to post this.
      Lurkness posted some pics down below.

      Good luck, Allen Barton. You deserve all the applause for this show.

  • Sidney18511

    What time zone is Mr. O in?

    • mountain but i believe posts are ‘scheduled’…..

    • Illinoisian

      Mountain, I think. 4:49am there now.

  • Sibs

    Happy Sundance Day!

    • L. C. Spencer

      Definitely feels like a new holiday!

  • Happy Cosmic Justice Year!

  • Shanester

    A Summary of Outstanding Comments for Saturday, January 24, 2015

    Well, I just finished this (the day after). I’ll probably do one more round-up for Sunday’s comments, mostly because I thought it would be worthwhile to have a guide to the plethora of comments – so many good ones – during this rather historic event, Scientologically speaking. It is ridiculously long, and if I decide to summarize in the future, you may be assured that I will be much more ruthless in what I decide to include. But, again, so many comments! I sure hope all the links work, because I won’t be very disposed towards fixing them!
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    Today has been the most exciting day for me personally since I started reading the Bunker in October of 2013. It’s a wealth of riches, tautologically speaking. (I started to say “embarrassment of riches” but realized there’s nothing to be embarrassed about here, unless you’re the Church of Scientology.)

    We don’t want to forget that today’s post was about a compelling yet odd video interview with L. Ron Hubbard’s former PR agent (and lover) Barbara Klowden who dishes on Hubbard in a mostly satisfying if somewhat idiosyncratic way. Fortunately, a good number of diligent Bunkeroos did talk about just that. But, obviously, the big news today is SUNDANCE! That’s why this summary is split into two parts: the first for all the Sundance goodness that has been abounding all over these Disqus pages. (Seriously, how many times do you have to refresh a page to see the !#@% picture? Never mind, we all know the answer is: a lot.) Part Two of the summary will talk about the dish of the eccentric Ms. Klowden, as well as other goodies that may have been too easy to miss amidst all the hubbub.

    PART ONE: SUNDANCE ☀

    Tony and a bunch of other SPs arrive in Park City, Utah for the start of the Sundance festival!

    ☀ Pictures!
    Tony representin’ New York, at least in the winter hat department. (Plus same pic nicely framed by THDNE) (And same pic artistically filtered by Media Lush)

    Mike and Marc! There’s nothing like two bitter, defrocked apostates enjoying a burger on the fringes of… Park City?

    Alex Gibney talking about making the documentary.

    ☀ I ❤ Marc Headley
    And so do a lot of Bunker readers, because he won the day’s popularity prize with his string of Twitter zingers in response to Kirstie Alley’s baffling and ill-conceived tweet with “Scientology” and “KKK” right next to each other. Nice juxtaposition, Kirstie, even if it’s (kind of?) clear you didn’t mean to make people compare your religion to a hate group. Thanks to Bunkeroo Vaquera for being on his Twitter A-Game. Bonus tweet: Christian Stolte piles on.

    “Headley just told Lena Dunham that she was great on Howard Stern.” Marc tweets it.

    Tony is hanging out with David Miscavige’s former best friends Mike Rinder and Marc Headley who clearly are having a blast. In a brief comment Tony makes me so wish I was there!: “Now we’re being treated to actual quotes that Miscavige uttered at Int Base. Oh, the vocabulary on that man. You can probably imagine.” Understatement much?

    ☀ Stalked by a PI
    Stalked by a private investigator! Marc catches a picture of the PI in action!

    Chukicita gives us the inside scoop on the calibrated douchiness of a Private Investigator, i.e., that PI was meant to be seen. Oh, Scientology, you and your “noisy investigations.”

    ☀ Skateboard Warrior!
    Or not. Pic. Video.

    PART TWO: MS. KLOWDEN’S INTERVIEW AND OTHER GOOD THINGS

    ❇ The Barbara Klowden Interview
    The snarkily delightful Snake Plissken wonders “is anyone surprised that Hubbard fired Barbara Klowden by telegram instead of being man enough to tell her in person?” To which THDNE replies “Yes. I would have thought he’d use the telex.” Oh, the lulz.

    Barbara was certainly beautiful in the 1950s.

    Truthiwant (don’t we all?) wonders “What a strange and odd woman Barbara Klowden is. But I guess any woman who fell in love with Ron Hubbard must have been rather abnormal.”

    Stacy notes that Barbara was certainly one of Hubbard’s victims, yet can’t shake the vibe that Barbara was attempting to use him.

    BosonStark validates Stacy’s vibe by wondering if she was waiting for the “Dianutty money to start flowing in”, and was happy to leave when it didn’t.

    Skip Press met Barbara in the 1970s and her Cleopatra/Caesar story didn’t reassure him about her sanity.

    Consensus: Barbara Klowden is, at the very least, odd. And her painting of a man being trampled by a horse doesn’t help. Good info about Hubbard, though.

    Despite all this, Barbara’s “apathy” story reveals an important psychological insight into Hubbard’s character. The writer Richard Grant says screenwriters: take note!

    ❇ Death Event
    Tony linked the video of the infamous 1986 Hubbard death briefing event where David Miscavige lies through his teeth. Chuck Beatty was there. Anonymous (the commenter not the hacker collective) points out “it is almost impossible to imagine a more clear example of the deliberate fraud of Scientology.”

    THDNE explains the Scientology state of mind in 1986. Once_Born succinctly notes ”an underestimated cause of Hubbard’s initial success.” Aquaclara reassures us that “[m]ost of [us] are pretty damn brilliant.”

    Finally, THDNE points out who’s still in: 2nd and 3rd generation families. As a 3rd generation (ex-)Scientologist myself, I really appreciate this comment.

    ❇ Disconnection: The Play
    Is sold out.

    Lucky Lurkness was there! With pics (including Tory!). Speaking of whom, Tory has a great review of the play.

    ❇ My Favorite Posts
    My favorite post: I would like to extend a hearty welcome to new Bunkeroo Jane456 who expresses a simple truth that reveals a way of thinking that every ex-cult member should immediately adopt. I love it so much that I am excerpting it here (edited for grammar):

    “Let’s say you were formerly Catholic, or formerly military – or formerly anything. Isn’t it funny how you get to have opinions about your experience? You can talk about your Catholic upbringing as much as you want. It’s not forbidden. Except if you are a former cult member. This is a pretty good way to know it is a cult: if all former members are discredited by default. This is not so in a valid, authentic organization.”

    Also, Matt in Atlanta fills me with hope: “Wogs are VERY aware of this exciting film.”

    ❇ More In-Depth Comments Worth Reading
    Still on Your Side talks about the Church “protecting its market share”.

    Chuck Beatty is an SP who thinks in futures. He also notes that Hubbard’s PR Agents have a curious habit of blowing then whistle-blowing.

    Techie notes that Scientology loves conspiracy theories.

    “There is no such thing as disconnection” – except in Europe! Newly minted ex-SO Philip Borggren Levin shares a sad story. Karen de la Carriere: Please interview him!

    Edit on Sunday, 1/25: Hmm, Philip has deleted his Disqus user account. I hope he’s okay. Anyone know anything about this?

    ❇ Shoops or Tubes That Made Me Chuckle
    My fave of the day: Mark’s GWU Hubbard Plaque.

    Panopea Abrupta: “Looks like a good movie, Barbara.”

    Observer’s rat in a cage probably disturbed me more than it made me chuckle; nevertheless, I used to be a huge Smashing Pumpkins fan, so here it is.

    Observer’s classic unicorn wonder twins

    Simi Valley links what David Miscavige was really thinking.

    ”I’m with stupid.” Ha! Classic.

    David Miscavige short jokes never get old.

    ❇ I ❤ THE SNARK
    The Underground Bunker. Remember: Come for the news. Stay for the snark.

    Robert Eckert on Mormon originality.

    Snake Plissken on attaining the State of Miscavige.

    Dodo The Laser reminds us that it’s Happy Drop Your Body to Do Advanced Research in Other Galaxies Day! Top OT Ron sure must have increased the voltage on his e-meter, or his Vistaril dosage, when he croaked, er, exteriorized.

    BFM sez “Well, soon you can replace most of your vital organs.” Jimmy3 sez, “That’s one of those procedures you’d wanna set your drink down for, I imagine.” Yay, Jimmy!

    My favorite species of extinct clams writes a letter to David Miscavige.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      Excellent summary, Shanester. I greatly appreciate your time and effort for this most helpful service.

    • i-Betty

      This is astonishing. How long must it have taken you?!

      • Shanester

        Hmm, almost four hours (two hours last night and the final two this morning) — as long as it took me to read/skim through 1450+ comments. Definitely a labor of love, which I’m already collecting notes to do again today. I probably won’t make it a regular feature, though!

        • i-Betty

          You’re crazy wonderful! I hope you’ll do one after each major event at least. It’s very much appreciated 🙂

    • NOLAGirl

      Wow Shane. This is so great. Thanks so much for taking the time to put it all together. So much caek in the Bunker today. 🙂 <3 <3 <3

    • aegerprimo

      Fantastic Shanester!

    • Philip Borggren Levin

      Still here. Didn’t delete my account 🙂 However the comment you are linking to is (made by the guest account) is not me. It is the exact same thing that I wrote though.. Don’t why that is?

      Here’s the linke the my story on ESMB: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?38194-Forced-Disconnection-(Full-Messages-in-English)-We-need-to-do-something!!!&s=24e42764abc2e49f25ccf7070f607424

      • Shanester

        Oh good! Hmm, weird there’s a mysterious duplicate. Oh well, I’m glad you’re here. I’ll update my comment. Thanks for responding!

  • whingeybingey

    Wow! I’d so love to see those poems. I wonder what she did with them.