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Scientology’s demonology: Where L. Ron Hubbard got the idea for your space cooties

Jon_Atack3Jon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and for more than three years he’s been helping us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet.

Please excuse my long absence from the Bunker. I have been involved in the creation of the Open Minds Foundation for the last eighteen months and it has commanded my full attention since the new year began.

My new book, opening Minds: the secret world of manipulation, undue influence and brainwashing, is available through Amazon on kindle. The print version will be available in a few weeks time. In it, I’ve expanded upon my fascination with Scientology and its elaborate thought reform program, showing how the same dynamics operate not only in other totalist cult groups, but also in terrorist groups, gangs, paedophile rings, and to greater or lesser extent throughout our society as a whole.

Now that we have launched the website (and please do take a look), I have found some time to consider the age-old problem of body thetans for my fellow Bunkerites.

It had taken me seven years to cross the threshold of the dank and dowdy Advanced Organization course room. I was ready for the promised marvels and wonders, but instead found myself utterly perplexed by the bizarre Section Three of the Operating Thetan course. Why had Hubbard decided to violate the Auditors’ Code, which by then I knew by heart: “Never evaluate for the preclear”? Surely, if this stuff was real, we would find it for ourselves using the “date/locate” procedure?

While I was trying to comprehend this departure from Standard Technology, a chap wandered in and asked me if the material reminded me of Colin Wilson’s Mind Parasites. It had indeed reminded me of this science-fiction novel about entities that gorge on human thought. In retrospect, it was simply a coincidence brought about because anyone who had read Wilson’s novel would have had the same thought, but at the time, it convinced me that as this fellow had been able to read my mind, there was probably something in this rambling account of Prince Xenu and the Galactic Confederation.

Even after seven years as a true believer – seven years of secrets, hints and whispers – I found the whole Xenu/Xemu story hard to swallow. It took just three days before the e-meter stopped reading on my “body thetans” – we “Natural Clears” were not in Xenu’s sector of the galaxy, it seemed. The Saint Hill Examiner checked and I was pronounced an OT III “completion.” A few days later, I told the former Technical Secretary UK that I had felt no real benefit from the level. He said, “A lot of people find that. You need OT IV.”

OT IV proved to be more body thetans – as our proprietor here at the Bunker has pointed out, there is a certain irony in the notion that on OT IV, you pay to relieve these thetan parasites of their drug problems. A day or two after finishing OT IV, I again dragged my tail to Saint Hill to admit that I (again) felt no noticeable benefit. After seven years of believing in Hubbard’s “science” of the mind and spirit, I was deflated. The response was the same: “A lot of people find that. You need the next level.”

While on OT V, the head of Birmingham Mission confided to me her delight that Hubbard had come up with something to resolve the mess caused by OT III. She had taken the Class VIII course – the OT III specialist course – under Hubbard’s own direction, so it was a surprise to hear that she had struggled for 15 years after finishing OT III. Since then, I’ve met many people who were disappointed and messed up by OT III.

I left Saint Hill after borrowing yet more money and finding no benefit in New OT V. I spent the next year wondering about body thetans. It was a horrible way to look at the world. I later met a guy who had spent almost 20 years attending to his body thetans (all under the auspices of the mother cult and its Standard Technology). He had devoted quite some time to a fellow lodger at the Scientology rooming house. He was auditing off her body thetans (although she was actually on a higher OT level) to eliminate her body odor. It was not working.

OT III ramps up the paranoia manifestly. If you are a computer engineer, you will start looking for gremlins in your computer. If your child is unhappy, you can blame the thousands (or even millions) of little devils. Whoever you are, you will live in a world inhabited largely by malign, invisible entities.

Inevitably, some people crack under this enforced and medieval belief. Long ago, I gave a talk to staff at Haywards Heath asylum. I was told that they treated an average of two OT IIIs a year. Despite their desperately long shifts, 14 members of the hospital staff came to my talk. So much for Hubbard’s ravings about their compassion level (from the man who merely cursed the bad publicity when told of his son Quentin’s death). They were surprised at my detailed description of acute psychosis induced by OT III, and welcomed my suggestions that they should not use any drug therapy. The guy they had just released had punched anyone who came near and smeared his room with excrement. Scientology had simply abandoned him to his fate.

After I left the mother cult, the OT V list was checked on the meter by my Flag-trained auditor, and nothing read, which meant that I had attained the lofty height of OT V! During those final days on OT V, I at first told the auditor that none of these body thetans had seemed like a real being to me. The next day, I suggested that they were simply “entities” or “mental machines.” On the last day, I decided they were nothing more nor less than the “attention units” described in Hubbard’s pre-thetan text, Science of Survival. A few days later, I declared that I had been “PTS” to Ron Hubbard – a pretty fair description of any involvement in Scientology, I later realized. A person deemed a Potential Trouble Source may be dangerous to Scientology because of a connection to a Suppressive Person, i.e. a critic of Scientology.

I read the OT VI materials and walked away: enough body thetans, already!

I wanted to know where the body thetan idea had come from. I remembered my few days in a Zen monastery, as a teenager, where I had seen a Tibetan painting showing a meditator fighting off his inner devils. That seemed a reasonable start, so I read Alexandra David-Neel’s books about her adventures in Tibet. She was a remarkable woman – actually of the Theravadim Buddhist persuasion, rather than the Mahayana of the Tibetans – she received the France’s Legion D’Honneur and lived to be over 100. Looking back, her reports of various marvels do seem a little naïve, but they are still a great read. I read four of her books – bestsellers when Hubbard was a young man, so standard fodder for populist mysticism at the time – but I did not find the answer I was looking for.

Then, a friend gave me a copy of Terry Clifford’s Tibetan Buddhist Medicine and Psychiatry: The Diamond Healing, which gave me exactly what I wanted. Clifford studied Tibetan medicine for her PhD dissertation. As she says: “to the Tibetans, ‘demons’ is a symbolic term. It represents a wide range of forces and emotions which are normally beyond conscious control and all of which prevent well-being and spiritual development … Obviously, none of these is a devil in the narrow sense of the word.”

Tibetan medicine treats people according to their own worldview. Illiterate peasants believe that they are inhabited by demons, so physicians treat them within that paradigm (I think lashings of yak butter may be involved). The intelligentsia understand the same phenomena as “mental entities or projections (mostly of a lower order) or as psychic fields of force, either natural or contrived.” (Theodore Buring, quoted by Clifford). The true Buddhist understands that everything, including mental entities, is illusion. Clifford cited the 12th century female yogi (or “yogini”) Ma-Chig-La: “but Demons don’t really exist! The truth of the matter is this: Anything whatsoever that obstructs the attainment of liberation is a Demon. Even loving and affectionate relatives can become Demons if they hinder your practice. But the greatest Demon of them all is belief in a self as an independent and lasting principle.”

In 1954 in a lecture called “Anatomy of Universes”, Hubbard expressed a comparable opinion: “You could explain to him down to the last ditch why that mass of energy was sitting there…You could explain it to him on a basis of demonology. And you could make it so exciting and so significant, giving the history of demons, their separate and various names, how they are all bossed by separate and particular archangels or archdevils, and how this has affected him in various ways and how to use them in various ways, and if you are convincing enough, he would lose that mass. This is what is known as ‘demon exorcism’. If you pray hard enough, if you explain hard enough, you’ll finally bang enough significance into this mass so he doesn’t have to pull it up to his chest to look at it. But of course, he has to be in a hypnotic state to have this done to him, doesn’t he? … You could actually make somebody get rid of one of these masses simply by putting enough significance into it for him. That’s hypnotism! That’s why people are willing to be hypnotized! They’ve got to have enough significance to explain why they’re going through all this strain!” (6 May 1954 – reprinted in Advance! 89).

So, you have to hypnotise people to make them believe they are possessed, and as Hubbard often boasted, he was a master hypnotist: He claimed to have learned the dark art aged 16, and so had over two decades of practice by the time he launched Dianetics. Hubbard’s own encounter with entities is described by his mentor (yes, Hubbard did have one), Arthur J “Speed-King” Burks – a colonel in the Marine Corps and author of over 800 pulp fiction stories. Burks’s autobiography, Monitors, talks about the “Little Its” – entities invisible to the normal human eye, which he describes as “brownies, gremlins … fairies, sprites, kobalds, leprechauns and anybody’s guess what else.”

Monitors contains this passage: “One afternoon the Redhead [Ron Hubbard] walked in on us. … He was in uniform. He sat on the couch. We waited to see whether he would be aware of The Little Its. Suddenly something in the middle of the bare floor caught his attention. He began to laugh. ‘What are they?’ asked the Redhead. ‘Little men?’ We started to explain, but he wasn’t listening. He was holding out his two forefingers, pointing at each other, but a foot or two apart. We gather from him that the ‘little men’ were using forefingers as parallel bars. Redhead chuckled over The Little Its with great delight, and since he could ‘understand’ them, they sometimes served him as messengers to us.”

These particular invisible creatures did not make it all the way into Scientology, but the bit about ‘messengers’ is of special interest. Floundering after he had sold his interests in Dianetics in 1952 (for a single dollar), Hubbard had to create a new “science” out of whole cloth. He turned to his master Aleister Crowley’s books, and reworked his ideas (I’ve tracked many of these in Possible Origins for Dianetics and Scientology).

Now, Crowley was a ritual magician and believed that a significant aspect of magick depended on the ability to round up discarnate entities and send them to harass your enemies. So the notion of the Little Its as messengers is common in magical (and magickal) circles (and I do hope that this stimulates my expert friend Mark to comment about Hubbard’s relationship to the OTO, rather than simply chiding me privately at the pub). It is just that in dark magic, the messengers have painful messages.

I say “dark magic,” but let me – as is so usual – digress: There is only dark magic, because any attempt to control another secretly is wrong – whether it be a love potion or a Tone 40 intention. In his Hubbard Chart of Human Evaluation (or “Hoo-Ha”), Hubbard says that the highest emotionally toned person “Dislikes to control people,” which is kind of weird as Scientology quite openly teaches hard sell, 8-C (“infinite control”), upper indoctrination training routines and much else about surreptitious domination. But, then again, the double bind, obvious contradictions are the glue that sticks even the smartest people to the Technology of Scientology.

Back to the BTs. Hubbard did use the idea of discarnate entities from the beginning of Scientology, but no one was buying it. Typically, he would attract 30-50 students to his $500 “doctorate” or “advanced” courses (there were 38 people at the Philadelphia “Doctorate” Course according to its organizer, Helen O’Brien). His oldest son, L Ron Jr., or Nibs, said that he and his dad would think up new ideas (or borrow old ones) and try them out at a Doctoral or Advanced Clinical Course. Whatever helped to calm hecklers (the upper indoctrination drills, for instance) or produced euphoria would be added to the program.

Entities came and went over the years, but there was no secrecy about them until the release of Section Three of the Operating Thetan Course (in 1967). So, in 1954’s summary of seven “Clinical Courses” The Creation of Human Ability Hubbard said: “The third dynamic could be said to be that dynamic embracing persistence of groups of objects or entities” and further: “This we call the reactive mind. It is an actual entity …” showing that he understood the term in a wider sense than just the indwelling demons of OT III, IV, V, VI and VII (hope I didn’t give away too much there, for anyone who wanted the OT levels to be a surprise).

However, Hubbard never lost sight of the meaning used by ritual magicians: entities are souls (and if Hubbard got his hands on them, lost souls). While trying to crack his barbiturate addiction (and, yes, again, he confessed it on tape; see Never Believe a Hypnotist), and collect an entirely unjustified pension for his purported ulcers, Hubbard wrote his infamous series of Affirmations, also known as the Admissions. They appear to be phrases that he would affirm or repeat to himself, and included the phrases “All men are my slaves” and “All elemental beings are my slaves”

Although elemental beings would include gnomes, undines, sylphs and salamanders (at least according to Wikipedia), I think Hubbard cast the net further and believed that he was influencing discarnate entities that would all later be described as “body thetans.” His consistent failure to sell the idea led Hubbard to shroud it in secrecy and threats of fatality (though maybe he was hoping to collect all of those discarded discarnate beings for his own invidious purposes, as any megalomaniac ritual magician would).

OT III had to remain a deep secret, because anyone reminded of it who had not prepared themselves (by removing the goals-problems masses of Release Grade 6, the Clearing Course, OT I and OT II) would die within days of hearing the doleful tale. By the time I did OT III, it was no longer necessary to spend years on GPM clearing (only the old OT II survives from the original Bridge). I had two days on OT II and left it baffled, but it took me several months after leaving before I could tell anyone the tall tale that is OT III. The phobia runs deep: if I tell someone about this rather thin science fiction story, it may be lethal.

Hubbard, of course, desperately tried to sell his screenplay of the OT III incident – Revolt in the Stars – only a decade after making this dire threat, so he evidently changed his mind: either it was no longer dangerous, or he wanted to eradicate the human race.

The last laugh came on Hubbard’s swan song, “Thank-you for Listening” (the review in Melody Maker ran: “You’re supposed to eat vegetables, not listen to them”), Hubbard explained how he had managed to use religion to make a fortune ($648 million, so I’ve read): “In olden days the populace was much afraid of demons/ And paid an awful sky high price to buy some priestly begones … Oh now here is the why that makes the world an evil circus/ No demons at all but just the easily erased evil purpose.”

So, there you have it: no need to spend hundreds of thousands climbing the bridge to freedom – the OT levels are actually redundant: “no demons at all.” You just need to find the “evil purpose.”

If that isn’t clue enough to solve the Zen koan of Scientology, then try this: Misownership is the fundamental mistake (as the OT V materials say, courtesy of David Mayo). It isn’t your evil purpose. It is Hubbard’s, and all you have to do to be free of him is to give him back all of those body satans (Forgive my lisp – but since the National Enquirer quoted my use of the phrase “body satans,” I use it as badge of honour), those engrams, those service facsimiles, those overts, those evil purposes and just come into present time…

Now, would anyone like to attest?

 
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Today in Atlanta, it’s time for a new Ideal Org!

Hey, do you have your ticket?

 
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We’ll be waiting to hear from our correspondents on the scene who will be hoping to get a glimpse of Scientology leader David Miscavige for us. Check back here in the afternoon for our latest reports.

 
UPDATE: We’ve been away from the computer for a while today. Now that we’re back, we have a bunch of photos in our inbox. We’re just going to post them in no particular order…

 
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Says one of our correspondents: “At 2:12 the crowd is about the same size. Couple of protestors outside. Mostly cops and security keeping things quiet. No one on stage yet. No Miscavige sighting.”

 
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Another correspondent says: “They started with ‘Georgia on my Mind’ 20 minutes ago. There are no more than 250 to 300 people here tops, and most are Sea Org. ABC news is here. The locals are Christian and none too happy about this. They were quite kind to me and some other Anons and media and allowed us sweet video and picture views from their balconies across the street. The Post Office was apparently annoyed at Scientologists for using their lot so they told them it was for Postal Customers only. They are right next door.”

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on April 2, 2016 at 07:00

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  • anonsparrow

    OTVIII is Great or John P.: What do you predict will happen with all the money when Miscavige falls? Where will all the money go?

    • anonsparrow

      Cuz I would definitely like to have some of that shit.. (Edit: actually no, blood money – sorry i for-gots)

      • beauty for ashes

        I want the super power building!!!!

        • Eivol Ekdal

          Dibs on Trementina.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          The San Fran Org is what I’d love to buy in bankruptcy court.

        • Kestrel

          I want Larry Hagman’s old house.

          • beauty for ashes

            Crap! Me too!

      • chukicita

        Hell I’m still waiting for my check from Big Pharm!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          I don’t know why you all have so much trouble. Mine come quarterly and are on auto-deposit.

          • daisy

            Mine comes in stock and I don*t mean shares.

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Jelly and Safi

    • J. Swift

      The money won’t go anywhere when Miscavige is no longer COB for whatever reason.

      Church money is 501(c)3 money and by law it can only remain in a 501(c)3. The money will stay where it is right now.

      The Church of Scientology will go on without David Miscavige and does not need him to operate. LRH policy created a bureaucratic machine. Without Dave, the Orgs could go on autopilot LRH policy with oversight management by the WDC, ILO, and CLO echelons. IMO, a new and equally unqualified COB would emerge from the shadows. This would be a high school dropout who grew up in the Sea Org, is narcissistic, and capable of brutality. In other words, a new sociopath would replace the old sociopath.

      Once you understand that all of the Orgs are legally separate corporations and are not a part of CSI, the so-called Mother Church, then a scenario becomes possible whereby financially failing Orgs could easily have their licenses revoked by CSI and then be shut down and sold off. The proceeds from selling Orgs would, presumably, go to whatever tax exempt Scn entity owns the Orgs: CSI, SBPI, etc. If Orgs were shuttered, there would be an Org consolidation into Flag, Los Angeles, CCI, NYC, St. Hill, and a few other places. OTOH, the IAS has enough money to keep all of the Orgs opened and staffed for decades. The wild card question is this: Who takes over when DM is no longer COB?

      Even if CSI went out of business or lost its tax exemption, then the money, by law, can only go to another 501(c)3. In this scenario, the money could go to RTC, CST, the IAS, or any other tax exempt related Scn entity.

      Tax exemption is a two-edged sword. Scientology is as trapped by tax exemption as it is helped by tax exemption.

      • Jimmy3

        What if he cashes it out and puts it all into those little plastic Easter eggs… Then holds an Easter Egg hunt contest where he happens to find all the eggs….

        • anonsparrow

          Don’t give him any ideas J3!

      • Kestrel

        So, none of the money can be transferred from US-based non-profit entities to offshore entities like IAS?

        • J. Swift

          Kestrel, the IAS domesticated in 2007 and became a Delaware corporation. The IAS likely has offshore accounts so yes, the money could be sent offshore (assuming it is not all already offshore). There would be nothing illegal about having offshore accounts. However, US banks can always use SAR’s to report anything amiss.

          • Kestrel

            Thank you, J. Swift.

      • anonsparrow

        Ok thanks alot for this. I always wondered about that.

      • chukicita

        Good point about no succession plan whatsoever.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I bet he’ll rule for a long time. “Only the good die young…”

        • anonsparrow

          He has ruled for a long time. But I’ll bet he’s done and gone in 3 years.

          Ante up TT.

        • I hate that saying.
          And because its in a well-known song people think there’s truth to it.
          I hate it.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            I hate that fucking song.

            • Dice

              *LOL*

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I hate the song too. Just seen it happen so many times.

            • Yes, “often” the good die young. Often the evil die young. Often the evil die old. Often the good die old.
              But “only” makes it offensively stupid.

      • Unless there’s some lolsuit thingy.
        RICO? Gov seizures.
        I can’t see the johnny-come-lately vulture authorities not wanting a piece of that luscious pie.
        IRS posthumously finding massive tax fraud?
        Hey, a boy can dream.

      • grundoon

        There are plenty of 100% legal ways to drain money from a 501(c)3.

  • nottrue
    • WOG with Attitude

      Yes, April 30 will change everything! The beacon will wipe all ENTHETA from this planet and we’ll be rue-ing up a storm!!

      • Ben Franklin

        The world would benefit more if CoS were able to use that same enthusiasm and energy for a worthwhile cause.

        • Kestrel

          Tru dat.

        • anonsparrow

          Yes! Any cause based in reality that benefits everybody would do!

          And there’s so many good causes out there..

          • anonsparrow

            I could subscribe to Thursday at 2:00 again if it REALLY meant saving the world.. or similar.

            • Eileen

              Are you kidding? There is nothing about scio that can save or even help the world. Volunteer to be a big brother/sister if you want to change the world. Or volunteer for conservation.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              He of all people has lived that. Mr. Sparrow is an icon.

      • chukicita

        We will rue the world. 😀

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Everybody wants to rue the world.

          • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

            Awww, you guys…I’m gonna have that song in my head now for days…

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Nothing wrong with that. T4F are great. I heard from a little birdie that they have a new album coming out very soon….ssshhhhh, secret.

    • Mark

      Lions and tigers and bears… oh my!
      OSA and reggers and COB… oh my!

      • aegerprimo

        Follow the yellow brick road.

  • Kay

    What DM fantasizes about whilst pontificating at his podium: F5

    • Ben Franklin

      DM is the only so called religious leader who needs a booster seat at the table.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        And a potty chair.

  • Rasha

    “I want low-resolution video screens right in front of, and blocking the view of, the building! I want it broadcast 20 feet in front of the same scene it describes, but smaller, so these people know it’s being broadcasted!!!”

    • bonnydoe

      You can’t have highres if you are yourself only 10×10 pix… uh 10×20

    • chukicita

      “I also want enough sound reinforcement to amplify my voice so it can be heard for a mile, even though I’m only talking to a crowd that wouldn’t fill a high school auditorium.”

  • Hennessy

    Love this recent contribution of Jon Atack’s. We are so fortunate to have him share his wisdom with us. I’m ordering his new book and another copy of ‘Let’s Sell these people a piece of Blue Sky’ to gift my therapist with. Thanks, Jon.

  • Dice

    F5 You pull my finger and ill give you something to think about…

  • OOkpik

    Thank you John Atack for yet another treasure. Every time you exhume some of Old Hubbard’s “tech” you bury Scientology that much deeper. Respect!

    Kudos to the scoundrel/s who got the great photos. It looked like a great day for protesting and fringenanigans.

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Shit just a few protesters. Had I known I’d have flown down to make some noise.

    • Dr_Orpheus

      On the plus side, not that many Scientologists and it will be practically empty tomorrow.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        The locals must be getting together their bankruptcy paperwork for Mon. appt. with their lawyers. “Wanna buy a door knob ?”

        • Kestrel

          Better that than clearing their schedule for the next six months in anticipation of the flood of new public.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Remember fund raising classes start tomorrow. I’m serious.

            • Kestrel

              Now you know why the Flag buses were in a hurry to get out of Atlanta.

    • Frodis73

      I wish the church would do something to really get some attn again…imagine how great it would be if huge numbers of protesters showed up now…while they are so weak and so few?

  • outraged

    This is for you David Miscavige, now and always. F5
    You are a black hole that sucks the life and limb out of everyone.
    You are a Venus flytrap with bars. The opposite of a religious leader.

  • so this is happening on twitter right now…. I think Piers Morgan is using “scientologist” as an insult…. it’s all confusing ….

    https://twitter.com/GideonResnick

    https://twitter.com/piersmorgan

    • thought I’d join in

      • anonsparrow

        Thank you media_lush for keeping the pressure on to end this atrocity of religion called Scientology.

        • and look who stuck his bellend in, lol

          pic

    • Some of the rightards seem to be using Scientologist as a general insult now. It’d be okay if they actually knew anything about it beyond the “LOL Xenu!” level.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Maybe because that’s the only funny part. The rest is horror. Most of my mates have seen Going Clear and it did a great job of exposing their constant crimes to the layman. Nobody ever seems to mention or understand Xenu. That was a part I’ve been asked to explain several times.

  • I would have posted this morning but an iPad pro takes a massive 10mb+ screengrab and disqus only allows 2mb…

    “If you put “body thetans” into google images it throws up some interesting results.

    On a side note I personally always imagined they looked like those things that cartoonists created when the imagined germs being killed by toilet bleach in the myriad of cleaning product commercials over the years.”

    • anonsparrow

      It’s like trying to flush Scientology down the toilet but those little buggers keep clinging on and hanging in there. Sort of have to admire them for.. no, no.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Do theatens swim?

        • anonsparrow

          Are you OSA?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Gomosa.

        • aegerprimo

          …………………….

    • aegerprimo

      From that montage, this is my fav……ROFL
      (F5)

      • WOG with Attitude

        That’s from a whole series of panels. Great stuff.

  • anonsparrow

    I saw the Grateful Dead in Atlanta. I recall the rough traffic. Cops were cool there.

    Sad day for Atlanta when Miscavige puts his foot on the ground. Oh well.

    • Like Atlanta even noticed. Stay happy sparrow.

    • Cops were very uncool to anons in ’08.
      Full riot gear. Bullshit arrests.
      Cult tools.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rLG0S_9Gezc
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqEf8rcPv9M

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Does anybody know what happened to them?

        • They will be eligible for parole in 2019.
          Georgia, go figure.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Really, couldn’t find a link. Fucking absurd.

    • aegerprimo

      When was that? It is 2016 now. Times have changed.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Really pulled over for honking?

    • Kestrel

      I have solid evidence that I saw the Grateful Dead on the west coast. I have no memory of this. I don’t even have memory of being on the west coast during this particular time frame.

      • daisy

        We met and got married you cad.

        • Kay

          LOL !!!!

        • Kestrel

          Kestrels are somewhat monogamous. The key word is “somewhat.”

    • jazzlover

      Grateful Dead and mellow. Now there’s a surprise 😉

  • salin

    Recommend today’s Underground Bunker. Insightful and thought provoking writing from John Atack, combined with Tony’s sources sending real-time photos fro the first Ideal Org opening event in the US in several years – and great conversations spawned by those posts. Why recommend (underneath the comments count) – because it is the virtual equivalent of upvoting a single post that one appreciates.

    As part of the reminder – I share some sky watching/auroras from across the globe (the natural world is awesome.)

    Latvia: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=124134&PHPSESSID=681f4vd7lvgc9nccorjke178f1

    Iceland: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=124146&PHPSESSID=681f4vd7lvgc9nccorjke178f1

    Kvaløya island, Tromsø, Norway (this image is like a light show staged across a city scape) : http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=124156&PHPSESSID=681f4vd7lvgc9nccorjke178f1

    Siberia, Russia: http://spaceweathergallery.com/indiv_upload.php?upload_id=124148&PHPSESSID=681f4vd7lvgc9nccorjke178f1

  • Dice

    If you really don’t like TC this is a fun rerun
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3snRwSiDyc8

    • WOG with Attitude

      This is a riot. It was new to me; never saw it before. Spot on! Cruise is a joke! Hardly an ecclesiastical beacon!

  • Alice Graves

    “But the greatest Demon of them all is belief in a self as an independent and lasting principle.”

    I am in awe of the ability of Mr. Atack to assimilate truths and understandings he has derived from studying different philosophies and systems of belief, and how they connect at key crossroads – from which some take off on dark tangents and others lead the human spirit towards real self knowledge and eventual freedom. He truly is a first rate mind in this pursuit and I’m very grateful to get to read what he makes available through his books and his postings at this site.

    It does seem to be that the root of all of our fears and discontents is our perception of separation from each other and the whole of life. We have been trapped in a perception that we’re all separate entities, greater or lesser than each other, when in truth we’re all just a viewpoint – a unique way of seeing and experiencing the world. If only we could see our experiences that way, rather than falling into all of the dread and unhappiness of feeling greater or less than.

    Bless you, Jon Atack for the huge contribution you are to this conversation. I always feel proud that I’m within at least a couple degrees of separation of a great mind of this age, when reading your pieces.

    • Dice

      wrong target!

  • Madison KinSmed
    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Pretty sure it happened for the Super Power opening. There was a sign for “extras” around one side. So, unless they meant extra BTs, they had paid folks there.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    I’ve been out all evening. Was there a general head count consensus? And did Skarlet stop by or tweet anything else?

    • 250, 300 tops according to the comments

      • Todd Tomorrow

        And most were The Sea Arghh brought in by bus.

      • chukicita

        A kind estimate was 500. But certainly no more than that.

        • Bleuler

          So 47 000 when they write the press release?

    • JustSheila

      IDK what others say for numbers. We had a clear view from the post office around the back side, but not from the front. No way more than 500, IMHO. I’d say there were at least a dozen exes/anons/watchers there though. More tmrw.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Thank you.

    • Dice

      She did

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        And?

        • Dice
          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Yeah, I had seen that already. That’s the tweet that got the whole thing started. I think Jon S tweeted him after that and we’ve been waiting to see if we hear anything back.

            • Dice

              No not in here? as far as i know. DDD was the first to post this tweet and return a Thank you Tweet. And i have been up and down yesterdays >1000 comments a couple of times 🙂 haven’t seen anything from Skarlet in here.

  • JustSheila

    I’m sure Tony has more pics, details and vids to post. I didn’t have a professional camera or videocam, but others did, so I’ll wait until he posts those to comment more, other than this: IMHO, the Grand Opening was a disaster! None of the Scientologists were excited or enthusiastic, they were only cheerful at best, clearly just trying to make a good show. Even the cheering sounded tired and hollow. They were mostly staff – obvious from the cheap polyesters and worn, cheap shoes. I’m sure they were tired. The stage is tiny and there isn’t much room for seating between the stage and the front brick wall so the amount of people there was misleading from the pic vantage point.. I’m not the best at estimating, but tried to count and multiply. There were only those at the front of the building, nobody even filled the sides. So at its peak, there were definitely less than 500 there. More like 300-350 tops.ABC news reporters were treated badly by scn security and followed everywhere, chased from where they could get good pics and vid, but they and other exes/anons/watchers managed anyway. One of the locals drove past blowing the Christian horn, lol! My friend and I spoke to quite a few staff and scns and locals. Tell you all about it tmrw after Tony posts his stuff. Goodnight. 🙂

    • ReallyMGM

      Thanks Sheila! Can wait for more reports.

    • chukicita

      Thanks for being there and sharing it with us!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      What is “the Christian horn?” Does it bring down the walls of Jericho???

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      Thanks sweet Sheila….in one of the photos the seating was approx 30 wide and a bit more than 5 deep, maybe even 10 deep…plus some standees while DM monologued? so yeah, most likely a fair bit less than 500. Looking forward to the forthcoming reports

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    PHOTO CAPTION – “More pictures of the opening of Atlanta Ideal Org!!”

    • Supper Powers

      I wonder why they have handicapped parking spaces available.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Wog Law. One day, when the Orgs are running everything, they will be able to get rid if those…

      • aegerprimo

        NO. Scientology is all about making the able more able.

    • aegerprimo

      Got pics of parking spaces?

    • dchoiceisalwaysrs

      I want to see all the names posted on that org board…would it be the same as the Roll Call?

  • Colbie Caillat – Never Gonna Let You Down

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nr8lXUUpkzo

    • Robert Eckert

      I was expecting a cover of the Rick Astley song but found something else. I’ve been anti-rickrolled.

  • I noticed a common theme amongst all the Atlanta opening pics

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Silly Scientologists. Your TR stares won’t work on mere wogs.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Last ones I confronted used run away tech. One almost landed on their ass. They don’t just jog but run from my entheta that dedemidates from my mouth.

        • aegerprimo

          Not to mention that you have REAL ARTISTIC ABILITY.
          Just sayin’ Todd. You have it.
          (that probably scares the shit out of COB and the Co$)

  • Todd Tomorrow

    Last time I saw Anthrax there were easily 500 people. Almost five years ago?

    • SucculentDuck

      There were more people at the “secret” Guns N’ Roses show at the Troubadour last night … and that was announced at 10am yesterday.

      • jazzlover

        Did you try to go?

        • SucculentDuck

          I did not

          • jazzlover

            I don’t blame you. The scene looked pretty insane on all the news reports I saw. People flippin’ out in the old Tower on Sunset lot. LOL

            • SucculentDuck

              Ya, the excitement is cool. I don’t totally get it, tho. Appetite is easily in my top 20 fav albums but doesn’t seem rebellious and dangerous to me now.

            • jazzlover

              They had some good songs, but that ended pretty quickly. Based on that alone, I still wonder how they got into the RRHOF (not that I see that as the ultimate barometer of greatness – especially when I constantly laugh my way through Rolling Stones’ “Best Of” lists). Fwiw, I think there’s better stuff on the two Use Your Illusion albums. Most people disagree, of course. The tune they did with Alice Cooper was killer, for instance. The rebelliousness angle means less as one ages, btw. They weren’t the first band to play it up, though. The Ramones, for instance, couldn’t play a chord, let alone 3, and people still see them as influential to this day.

            • SucculentDuck

              RRHOF is a joke. Boys club that built a fake museum (sound familiar?) and pretty much has final decision on who/what they allow in regardless of historical significance or accomplishment. I went when my band was on tour and had a day off in Cleveland and (I’ll give the HOF credit for one thing: bands get in free if you give them an official cd) I think Britney Spears’ outfits were all the rage in there at the time. There was one tiny glass display case with a handwritten Ramones set list (1,2,3,4 before every song, and DeeDee sings Warthog actually written too… haha) and very few other items that were all that interesting to me. Too sterile for anything RnR. Back to Gn’R, I’ll agree that the Illusions had some better songs but the band had already become mainstream and up their own asses by then. Appetite (aside from 2 songs that were/are still way overplayed) top to bottom had a rawness that my teenage rocker self just “got” at the time. I agree about rebelliousness, didn’t really mean I expect to still feel the same way 30yrs later w/ a wife and mortgage, etc, (although sometimes I do… young at heart) or for bands to keep putting out the same fired up albums they did when they weren’t famous millionaires. Metallica *cough*. Re: Ramones, and I’m sure you’ll let me know the source for this paraphrased quote, “it’s not about how many chords they played, it’s how they were played.” Attitude is everything. Have I mentioned I’m glad you’re back? ;p

            • jazzlover

              When I was too young to enter the hallowed halls of CBGB’s and Um What the Fuck, I used to get in only because one of my cousins knew one of the bouncers there. I’ve seen the Ramones, the Talking Heads, even the wild and wooly Plasmatics there (holy shit on Wendy O. Williams — she was off her rocker!). I can tell you first hand that it was all about attitude, because they all literally sucked and had shit thrown at them on stage. In my younger days (and I’m guessing I’m a little older than you), I used to worship the Velvet Underground. That was then. Now I’m older and more mature and can easily say that the best rock band to have ever come out of NY is Living Colour. There is no doubt in my mind, and it’s not even close. Blue Oyster Cult (Soft White Underbelly) be damned. Used to see them at My Father’s Place out on Long Island. They were worse than the Ramones 🙂 I appreciate you appreciating my presence, btw. There are a couple here (who shall remain nameless) who have been trolling me since almost back to when I showed up.

            • SucculentDuck

              Respect to all of that. Wendy O. was living 20 minutes away from me in CT when she decided to end it. Never met her, but always had a special place in my heart for … weirdness. Living Colour’s Vivid blew me away, too. No more needs to be said about trolls. I know.

            • jazzlover

              There was a certain sexiness about her, if you get my drift. Get a crazy, hot, sexy chick to play with a chainsaw on stage, and that’s a recipe for adventure. LOL

              Those Living Colour guys can play anything with real skill. I love Calhoun, and Wimbish always knocks me out (not that Skillings didn’t). Check the bass line here:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vqnVhCADFHY

            • SucculentDuck

              Great song! Added to my “recommended by jazz” playlist 😉 Wimbish is a monster. I’ve always thought V.Reid should get more credit/recognition for what he does.

            • jazzlover

              Reid is a monster of the NYC downtown avant-garde scene (black rock coalition, anyone?), and Glover (he’s an actor too — he had a speaking part in Platoon alongside Chucky Sheen) and Calhoun are the best to come along on their instruments in the last 30 years. Calhoun makes guys like Grohl seem childish (more proof that jazz drummers play rock better than rock drummers). Here’s Reid in the fucking great Tony Williams tribute band, Spectrum Road, along with the legendary Bruce and the insane Mrs. Carlos Santana (Cindy Blackman) on drums:

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHpq8wFqV6A

    • jazzlover

      That overrated Ian dude stole a song from a couple of my friends back there at the beginning.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I was the designated driver but they rocked. Wouldn’t own any..

        • jazzlover

          The song ended up on their first album. Scott grew up in the same borough as me. I wouldn’t see them for free, but that’s just me.

          • Scott was the only thing I ever liked about them. It appears Belladonna finally improved his singing.

    • Their new album is probably their best.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I’d like to see shoops of Tom Cruise and John Travolta sliding down that ribbon! LOL

    PHOTO CAPTION – “Great Opening today Atlanta Ideal Org”

    • And so it’s over. Atlanta Ideal Org just celebrated their first and last highest attendance ever.

    • Dice

      This surveillance camera match the interior decor so well that they probably got those in every room. Just in case!

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • aegerprimo

      Ugh Todd!
      The music in this video makes me want to drink (alcoholic beverages in extreme excess).
      Good night, it is way past my bedtime now.
      ♥ you Todd!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Thank you for listening! XXXOOOT

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Let’s hope that they are playing this on repeat, all the way home on the bus ride back to FLAG!

      (refresh)

      • I doubt that buses have wifi Internet, because that would be premium and require a phone data connection. Still, it’d be fun to slap a disposable open access point on the bottom of the bus that routed everyone to a local critical site.

        • the last time I was in Norway we were all driving back from the cabin and there was a live game of football I wanted to watch but would have cost me a fortune in overseas streaming rates on my iphone… mr friend said don’t worry and pulled up close behind a coach and said check your wifi… it should be the strongest unlocked signal… it was and was superfast… watched the whole of the second half.

        • dchoiceisalwaysrs

          wouldn’t a smart phone HOT SPOT be good enough?

          • Dice

            yes… a phone would do it

        • LongtimeLurker

          Kickstarter this. I’m in.

          • Dice

            critical hot-spot’s

        • Draco

          They advertised wifi on the buses.

    • I am just glad he didn’t sing as much as he lectured.

    • Mark Foster

      Todd, I love ya man, but…fucking hell !

      • Draco

        What Mark said!

  • and who knew Jon Atack “talked” to the National Enquirer? …. their latest Cruise v Jamie Foxx bit has a little bit more meat to it than most of their posts

    pic

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!
    • Tony Ortega

      It certainly has more “heft” because they were smart enough to talk to Atack and Hassan, who each talked about what a target could expect in a Fair Game caper. But as for meat? Nah.

      This story is bullshit. If Tom actually still cared about his ex-wife, he wouldn’t stay away from their daughter for so long. And the last thing Miscavige wants is Katie Holmes back in Tom’s life. The last thing he’d do is sic investigators on her at this point.

      Until there’s some actual evidence, this is pure fantasy.

      • I’ve always ignored this story… it’s always the story behind the story when it comes to tabloid bollocks and I can’t figure why so many of them have run with this one at all, and it’s ran for absolute ages… but good to see that they have Jon to call on

        • Spackle Motion

          Must be a slow Trump day.

      • villagedianne

        It is possible that the Holmes/Foxx romance saga is nothing more than a Hollywood ploy concocted by their publicists to generate news stories about both stars.

    • Frodis73

      This line is such bs: Suri is a sore point with Tom.
      Oh really tom? then do something about it and visit your daughter, scumbag. Not really though, I honestly believe she is healthier w/out his toxic, weird, psychotic self around her.

      • they had a little piece on Suri as well and also managed to diss tiny tommy at the same time

        pic

    • LongtimeLurker

      I DON’T KNOW WHOSE SIDE TO TAKE!!!

      I hate them both.

      I also find Katie irritating.

      Damn you popular culture.

    • Dave Reams

      Foxx personifies MEST, he talks to inanimate objects, the gardener, the housemaid, the chauffeur, and embues them with personality … wassa mattuh wit U hat Katie? I think it looks fine!

    • Bob

      Whether the story is true or not it’s read by a lot of people. Not good for Cruise or his cherch.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Uh-oh! The neighbors read the Bunker! Now that’s what I call a WIN!!! 🙂
    (refresh)

    • I think The Bunker is about to go Saint Hill size.

  • Frodis73

    Channel flipping and come across Beck on Austin City Limits. Since I didn’t hand him any cash, I will keep watching…he is fun live.

    • aegerprimo

      Frodis …. you need to take down your Christmas lights/decorations…..
      Just sayin’
      You’re welcome.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    An interesting Daily Beast article. http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/04/03/donald-trump-is-the-l-ron-hubbard-of-politics.html?via=desktop&source=facebook

    “Candidate or Cult Leader? Donald Trump Is the L. Ron Hubbard of Politics?”

  • Still waiting for video to see if Captain David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige did The Rope Trick.

    https://youtu.be/pMovCWhEoU4?t=1m42s

  • Sejanus

    Love the pics from inside the Org.
    That has got to cheese off Dinky Massengil no end!

  • Dave Reams

    The Daily Beast: Donald Trump, Politics’ L. Ron Hubbard. http://google.com/newsstand/s/CBIw4OCArSo

    • Dice

      LRon had many bodies, so why not this dude!

  • OOkpik

    Forgot the pix. See below.

    • OOkpik

      Strike 2

    • OOkpik

      The two very hungry Washington eaglets waiting for papa to arrive with lunch.
      F5

      • Draco

        I’m so glad they are both alive. So often with predatory birds, the first chick out pecks the next one to death to eliminate competition. Must be all the positive postulates from the Bunker!
        Go birdies!

  • Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh JA

    • When ever I manage to get thru his storied they cut me like
      glass. but it takes houuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuurs.

  • “Lashings of yak butter”, please! MIllions and millions in Atlanta! Jon Atack in a word, brilliant! “Now, would anyone like to attest?”

    ME!

  • hansje brinker

    Well, CoS has already their press-release about Atlanta. Although air-photos shows that the Church has a few trees cut down, this is the statement of Davey. And this is no joke:
    “It’s all the more inspiring,” he said, “for the fact yours is a city of enduring inspiration, a city of grace and magic, a city where even oaks and magnolias possess souls; and a city of remembrance that also foretells of the future.”

    • hansje brinker

      And yes, this is what they say about the attendees: “Joining the Church’s opening celebration were 1,500 Atlanta Scientologists, plus those from along the Eastern Seaboard.”

      • Draco

        What? Not 5,000? Has their shooper blown?

      • Skabetti

        Where was that helicopter when we needed it?

    • OOkpik

      How can Anyone listen to that drivel??

      • hansje brinker

        You know, when I was in I have never listened to Miscavige . But when I was listening once/ one time to him, I was out……for good.

        • OOkpik

          I’m glad that some good came of it. 🙂

        • Draco

          Painful, isn’t it?

    • Dice

      Maybe the “magic” trees, just walked away?

      • OOkpik

        Can you blame them? LOL

      • Draco

        That must be the explanation.

    • Andrew Robertson

      In a joint statement Mr Oak and Miss Magnolia foretold a future for the Church of Scientology of being shut down by the combined efforts of the FBI and the IRS and Captain Miscavige enjoying a well deserved long vacation as a guest of the Federal Prison Service.

      Cassandra

    • Skabetti

      So beautiful. Sob.

    • Mymy88

      Gag me with a turnip root.

  • Nat-leficent

    O/T: Powerpuff gif maker
    http://www.powerpuffyourself.com
    I made Tony and Karen and J.Swift and Mike Rinder and Tori

    • Draco

      Heh. Love Tony’s!

  • Lady Squash

    Thank you Jon! Nice job of explaining things. Lots of new information.

  • WOG with Attitude

    https://twitter.com/1rryn/status/716527777768321024

    Only 2012! They will harass this poor women forever!

  • pluvo

    The future of the Church of Scientology: Few people and Miscavige on the screen.

    http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/ATL18.jpg

  • TheMirrorThetan

    Mummy Eagle is feeding the eagle babies at the moment if anyone’s interested.
    http://dceaglecam.eagles.org/#

    • TheMirrorThetan

  • Fink Jonas

    What was baffling to me is how come nobody knew about demons and evil spirits attached to your body and had to pay thousands in scientology first to find out and second to exorcise them, I new about demons and evil spirits attaching to your body since I was 8 y/o I grew up inside a ring of hardcore fanatical Pentecostals and praying for someone’s demos on Sundays was a common thing to do , us kids were sent to play outside doors locked and rattling and drums began. So I came to scientology because I thought it was an actual Science, and when I found out about BT my mouth dropped and I was oh no not again! right there my suspicions started that it was probably all bull, I never ever bought the Idea of the BT, I knew all along that was something he had renamed from somewhere else, I kept the Idea of going along with all the intro courses and I made up my mind once I get to the point where I have to buy into BT’s is goodbye for me, but thank god I never even got to that point the regges made me stop way before that, and thanks to the internet the clown was unmasked.

  • Fink Jonas

    To me that’s still way to many people attending those stupid events, that represents thousands being $ucked from each one of them and it represent millions to the dammed cult.

  • Jenny Lee de Becker

    David Mayo, that is so done I would love to know more about after his Scientology departure. Any books anyone can recommend?

    • MaxSpaceman

      Some time during Mayo’s Advanced Ability Center success in competition with Hubbard in the mid-80s, that Mayo was Hubbard’s auditor; that Mayo (along with his wife) probably devised most of NOTs program that exists to this day; that David Mayo was seen during those days in a quarter of a million dollar sports car; that AAC shut its doors…

      the bet is that Mayo got a ‘massive’ payoff, signed humongous non-compete/non-disclosure contracts, and hit the road Jack.