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Belgian judge throws entire case against Scientology out of court on technicality

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[Judge Yves Régimont]

Just got this from Jonny Jacobsen…

The judge in the Belgian trial of Scientology has thrown the whole case out on procedural grounds.

His ruling was delivered in three and a half hours at a terrific pace, and it threw out most charges because either the date for them to be prosecuted had expired; in some cases the judicial process had simply been inactive for too long.

Others charges were thrown out against two defendants because documents they had personally submitted to the prosecutor had gone missing.

While the prosecutor’s office had tried to argue during the trial that they were not important, but Judge Yves Régimont made it clear that this was not for him to decide.

He criticized the work of the prosecutor for having been too vague in the formulation of his charges, failing to show how specific charges applied to specific defendants.

The prosecutor, Christophe Caliman, who had followed the case for nearly 20 years now, sat stony-faced throughout the judgment.

The most serious charge he had laid against the Church of Scientology Belgium was that of being a criminal organization: He had asked for the Church to be dissolved and for a maximum fine of 200,000 euros.

But Judge Régimont said the charge was incoherent and contradictory: the evidence had shown that the Church of Scientology Brussels was subordinate to the Copenhagen-based Church of Scientology International.

For more than an hour, the judge rejected a series of technical and procedural grounds advanced by the defense, often in fairly blunt terms.

He dismissed defense arguments that one of the investigating magistrates in the case, Jean-Claude Van Espen, had shown bias because he had testified at a parliamentary inquiry on cults. He even quoted some of Van Espen’s testimony at the hearings to show that in fact, he took a balanced, nuanced view of the issue.

He rejected claims that the same magistrate had used a tax inspection of the Church as a way of surreptitiously gathering information for his investigation. A close examination of the chronology showed that the tax audit was underway well before Van Espen had started his inquiry, said the judge.

But while he rejected some of the numerous defense arguments directed against the investigators and the prosecutors, he was merciless in his critique of the way the prosecution case had been formulated.

“The court has no means of identifying the organization that is criminal,” said Judge Régimont. “The prosecutor has at no point said what constituted criminal organization,” neither in his written indictment nor in his closing arguments to court.

Instead he had supplied an endless series of internal documents from Scientology, including numerous directives from the founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

But his closing argument was contradictory because while the Church of Scientology was seen as more or less independent, investigators had established that it did not operate freely of the Church in Denmark.

The fact that most of the Belgian Church’s money went up to Copenhagen also suggested that it played a subordinate role.

“If there was a criminal organization, it was certainly not the Church of Scientology Belgium, because it was subordinate to the organization in Copenhagen,” he said.

While one could not rule out the possibility that there was a vast, criminal organization operating at a worldwide level, the court was confronted with the incoherencies and contradictions of the prosecution case. The prosecutor had failed to establish the charge.

There were similar incoherencies in the charge of criminal association, he said.

There were no elements in the closing argument, no references to relevant documents, so the court had to look itself, said the judge.

But faced with more than a hundred boxes of case files, it was asking too much of the court to establish the case from scratch.

Maître Xavier Magnée, one of the most senior lawyers on the defense team, welcomed the judgment as a victory for freedom of belief.

“The accused emerged from four years of suffering and judicial persecution and it is only justice the ruling that we have had today,” he said.

“It is a fine victory for freedom of expression, for freedom of belief and the end of a long crusade. But the feeling is one of relief and there is no time for complacency or for celebrating. We are emerging from a nightmare,” he added.

During the trial, he admitted, they had had the feeling that the Church was heading for a conviction because of all the preconceptions that the prosecutor had brought to the case, some of which, he said, had left him speechless.

“This is perhaps the first time in the history of Belgium that we put a religion on trial,” he said.

But the judgment had worldwide importance because it rejected the idea that someone’s ideology could be considered of itself a criminal offense.

The prosecutor had relied too much on the judgment and some documents from the 1996-7 convictions of several senior Scientologists in Lyon, France, said the judge.

The documents he had used in the case, which included a number of experts’ reports, could not simply be transplanted pell-mell into the Belgian case. He had to show how they applied in this context.

The Lyon Appeal court ruling, he noted, had convicted senior Scientologists on the basis of what they had done, not on the basis of what they believed, he added. But the prosecutor had not followed that example.

His lengthy closing arguments, packed with references to Scientology documents, left no doubt that so far as the prosecutor was concerned, “it was Scientology’s thinking itself that the court should punish, by convicting the defendants.”

It was not good enough, said the judge, for the prosecutor to point to the Preclear files, and say that they were used to commit fraud or to violate the private life of the person concerned. (The PC files contain sensitive information on Scientologists’ personal life.)

It was not good enough for the prosecutor to say that these files represented a danger to the people concerned.

“This is clearly the presumption of guilt and it is therefore to speak here of a complete lack of objectivity,” the judge concluded.

— Jonny Jacobsen

Here’s more background from Jonny on the case. Go here for his full scene-setter story from this morning…

The case is a composite of two separate investigations, one of which dates back as far as as 1997.

That first investigation was launched after complaints from former members of Scientology. In September 1999, police in Belgium and French raided not just Scientology premises but the offices of companies run by Scientologists in Belgium and some private homes.

Both the church in Belgium and Scientology’s European Office for Public Affairs and Human Rights, which lobbies European institutions and promotes Scientology’s social action campaigns, were charged. But in his closing arguments last November, prosecutor Christophe Caliman dropped proceedings against the European Office.

Nevertheless, several former senior officials who worked at the Office and for years acted as the public face of Scientology still face charges.

The second investigation was launched in 2008 after Actiris, the Brussels regional employment office, filed a complaint. The agency accused Scientology of having placed job ads when in fact they were not offering paid work but were trying to recruit new members.

More than 100 of those who applied for the jobs subsequently filed complaints. Some of them told investigators they had been signed up as members of the Church when they thought they were signing job contracts.

During a trial that lasted several weeks, Judge Yves Régimont clashed with defense lawyers who objected to the way he questioned the defendants. More than one of them was reduced to tears during their time on the stand.

The trial had to be delayed for two weeks after the prosecutor Caliman was taken ill. That happened as Scientology’s lawyers filed a complaint against him with the UN Special Rapporteur for International Religious Freedom alleging “egregious human rights violations.”

Caliman returned in time to present his closing arguments, but was criticized by the judge for running over his allotted time by half a day. The judge also repeatedly pressed him to show exactly how specific charges related to each of the defendants.

In his closing arguments, the prosecutor called for suspended sentences of between six and 20 months and fines running from 500 to 1,500 euros against the 12 defendants.

 
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  • daisy

    I don’t know if anyone is interested but Fifth Estate is covering Donald Trump. They are not usually complimentary to their subject. Sorry it started at 9pm

    • jazzlover

      You will rue the day that you did not announce this pre-9 pm.

    • Frodis73

      I want to watch that…do they post all their stuff online after airing?

      • daisy

        I am not sure, but they do air the show about 5 times in the next 2 wks. I will post it when they do here. I think Sebastion was able to post it so probably it is available.

  • jazzlover

    OT: Robert brought up the passing of Keith Emerson earlier. I got to thinking about what it was that truly made him special in the music world. Despite his technical prowess on the keyboards, what I most admired about him was that he was truly a student of his instrument, always pushing forward, while looking back at the same time. This tune wasn’t really what ELP was about, but his playing on it shows that he knew more than a little about and had a healthy respect for the playing styles that came before. Dig the stride playing at the end:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0FgKcnyRNKM

    • Brain. Salad. Surgery. That is all.

  • Ethan

    Rough day. That Horner guy got me for a minute.

    • How did you come across it, was it listed in Google News?

      • Ethan

        Got email from Suri.

        • Juicer77

          Oooooo, burn.

    • Susan B.

      Ew. can you remove this video? it’s Friday, it’s been a long week and I just don’t care to see that asswipe’s ugly Hollywood mug. OK,it’s OK now, I vented. You’re good. Keep the video up.

    • That nasty bit of work who defends him was over on Nora’s Facebook page trying to convince her that Horner is just a funny, creative guy. Meh.

      • I know, Artoo. DodoTheEthan.

      • Frodis73

        I’m missing all the FB drama. I’m with you, meh…he’s an ass.

  • Frodis73

    OT: ABC 20 20 is about the heroin epidemic/addiction and recovery tonight…looks good.

    • Jimmy3

      I know, right. Not to be that type of guy, but I’m sick of this Wonder Woman bullshit. Enough. The movie is called Batman v. Superman.

      • Frodis73

        I was like what?? That was more unusual than most of your comments. lol

        • Jimmy3

          This topic makes sober jimmy emotions and sober jimmy does not emotions

    • Heroin situation is really sad and I am glad Feds are drastically increasing the penalties for Dealers.
      People overdose left and right. Also, Philip Seymour Hoffman.

      • Frodis73

        we need to totally revamp things because locking people up is not working. you can get drugs in prison ffs…how do people think we can keep it away from free people if they can’t even keep it out of the prison and jails?

        • Make dealers OD on heroin?

          • Frodis73

            unless you are talking the very high level people, most dealers are users and are addicts themselves.

            • Most I’ve read about where into weed and alcohol.

            • Frodis73

              low level dealers do it mostly for two reasons: they are addicts themselves and it’s a way to feed their own habit (whatever that drug might be). the other reason is lack of jobs and/or opportunity…there are no other jobs. Contrary to popular opinion, what is reflected via film/tv/etc. dealing drugs is not a path to tons of cash.
              http://articles.latimes.com/2005/apr/24/opinion/oe-dubner24

            • Liberated

              A drug dealer sells drugs for power and control over others. They put themselves in the position of being the only one who has ” exactly what you want”. They will use that as a means of manipulation, duress and most importantly blackmail and extortion. They are predatory in nature, and of course will hold that over the addict’s head forever, until the addict breaks free. I don’t think it’s the money so much, I think it’s the position of power.

            • Frodis73

              There are assholes that act like that and I’m not saying that there isn’t somebody, somewhere that started for that reason, but the reality is, it just doesn’t really work that way.

    • Jimmy3

      Subutex is supposed to help curb withdrawal symptoms. It’s supposed to help you wean off heroin with gradually decreasing dosages. You’re not supposed to be relying on it for an extended period of time, or to build a new life around it. She’s only traded one addiction for another. And it’s hard to watch.

      • Frodis73

        I’m surprised she was on subutex vs suboxone. for some people (myself included) drugs like suboxone are a gift from the god. Years ago I felt the same way and was not very supportive of things like methadone and suboxone…between the science and my own experience i have changed my mind. Long term opiod use changes the brain and these meds help with all that. some people can slowly taper off, but some people may be on them for the rest of their lives. i don’t have a problem with that-if this medication is keeping people off drugs and not committing crimes and it works for them, go for it. we need to focus on harm reduction methods for addiction if our goal is to truly save lives.

        • Jimmy3

          I’m not saying suboxone or subutex have no place and are not helping people, I’m saying–without judgment– that in this particular case, they were scrounging up the same $17/day for the same dosage of the same medication, and when she didn’t have it.. You saw how the situation was. She headed to the corner when that plan inevitably failed.

          • Jimmy3

            And $17/day can afford a much more comfortable, more sustainable high with much less risk. Or for even cheaper, a much stronger buzz with so much more risk. Subutex doesn’t seem like a desirable option for people susceptible to addiction.

            • Frodis73

              I know…it’s f’n ridiculous!! $17 for one pill…and everybody wonders why nobody can stay sober…there are a lot of reasons and they are not always the addicts fault. The system is so messed up from the start. There are places where people can’t even get suboxone, etc. Dr’s are only allowed to have 100 patients at a time for one. Yet they can prescribe painkillers with no restrictions. It’s such a mess and an issue close to my heart…part of why i HATE narCONon soooooo bad.

            • sashiebgood

              I think they’ve changed that law, I think doctors are now allowed to have more than 100 patients. I am one of those people who KNOW suboxone saved my life. but I was of the generation of people where they weren’t only using it for a short time to get you off opioids, so I’ve been on it for 6 years. which will suck for me when I want to get off of it, I don’t like being tied to it, but it truly gave me my life back.
              Harm reduction and not prosecuting people for addiction are better ways of dealing with the problem of drugs. I posted this a couple of weeks ago, but here’s the link:
              http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/frontline/film/chasing-heroin/

              (maybe I’m snobby, but I feel like Frontline does a better job than 20/20. plus, no commercials!) 😊

            • Frodis73

              Oh yeah, the frontline thing was a million times better. More people watch 20 20 unfortunately. Where did you hear about the 100 patients thing being changed? They discussed it on the frontline special (which is pretty new) and I haven’t seen that come up on any recovery sites and that would be huge news.
              They wanted me on subxone for a year or two, but I weaned myself off in about 6 mos or so, but started taking it again a few years later.

            • sashiebgood

              hm, I could be wrong. I think my doctor has more than 100 patients, but maybe there’s a way to increase it. I know he had another Dr in his practice take the course (and that’s really all it is, they have to take a course to be able to prescribe suboxone) but then she left. so maybe he’s got another Dr doing it now with him. it is really f’d up that any doctor can prescribe oxycontin, but you have to have a special DEA number to prescribe Suboxone. and Buprenorphine, which is the active drug in it, has been used in veterinary medicine for ages as a pain reliever – human medicine too, but not as prevalent. I flip flop with wanting to get off it and knowing I’m going to feel like crap for a long time or just staying on it for the rest of my life, but then always needing a Dr to prescribe it for me. maybe things will change and it’ll be easier. I’m encouraged by the (albeit slow) realization that the legal/medical community is coming to that they created this crisis, and perhaps are starting to be a little more level headed about it.

            • Frodis73

              AFAIK, it has not changed. have you ever tried to lower your dose? i was on two 8 mg pills in the beginning…it was too much. i switched to one and then tapered

            • sashiebgood

              I’m on 8mg a day, but have been tapering myself to 6, I kind of want to do it myself, so I’m not forced to by my Dr. but you know the addict mindset, if I have 8,im going to take 8. I’m trying to convince myself that a stockpile would be a good thing for the inevitable apocalypse. did you happen to watch Fear the Walking Dead? the new Walking Dead show? one character is a heroin addict, and while I disliked the “addict” tropes that they used I the beginning (him waking up in a shooting gallery, etc) it did make me think about how fucked up it would be to have something happen and I couldn’t get my meds. not a zombie apocalypse per second, but any collapse. and the way they do it in the show is pretty realistic, though any good addict, the first thing they’d do is loot a pharmacy for all they could get.

            • Frodis73

              OMG, I hope you see this. I got clean before Katrina and I remember thinking how bad it would suck to be a junkie in NO!!! I did see the first ep of FTWD, but I don’t have cable so I haven’t seen the rest of it. If you are worried about keeping some on hand, taper yourself down before the dr does and stash those pills, (but rotate, they expire eventually). Trust me stepping down is not as hard as it seems…well, it is different for everybody, but I had like zero probs. I was a junkie for almost 10 yrs too, so it’s not like i’d only been doing it a few months or something. It may be mental…I’m sure that is a big part actually. I wanted it. Good luck!!

            • sashiebgood

              I haven’t had much issue stepping down from 8 to 6, or even 6 to 4 when I have to, but my husband, who is also on it has been trying to get down from 2mg for a while now and has been having a tough time. the problem with suboxone is that you really don’t feel the difference until 3 days later, it’s a very delayed effect for us in the moment kind of people 😝so I always think I’m doing better than I am and then it hits me. but I am trying to lay some by and get myself down… if only in case of emergency! I’m on the strips though, not the pills, so I’m pretty sure they don’t expire as quickly; they’re sealed in plastic. I’m also curious about the other ones, I forget the name but there’s another version of suboxone made by a different company (now that the patent has expired) and according to their literature their product is more bioavailable and therefore you actually need less buprenorphine. but it’s hard to find, Reckitt Benkeiser has a stranglehold on the market – thank God for insurance or else I’d have to get off it a lot faster! 😆 and yes, it is definitely a mental thing too, and it’s hard to talk myself out of taking that extra when I have talked myself into thinking I need it.
              Thanks for the convo, it’s good to talk to a fellow 💜

            • Frodis73

              It has been great talking to you too!! In fact, you can email me too. I’m at gmail using my user name here. I don’t check it often but when I do I will email you the addy I use more often.

            • sashiebgood

              it is if they truly want to stop getting being on the cycle of addiction. getting high is one part, but it’s also the lifestyle that people have to get out of. when you’re always working to get high – looking for drugs, looking for money, – getting clean and not having that “industry” can seem really boring. and once you’re not hurting from withdrawal (a major reason why people do stupid shit to score) and you look at the mess your life is, it’s very easy to go back to the game. suboxone does not get a person high – not in the way heroin does. maybe you get a little buzz at first, but it is not getting high. and people who are on it are not “high” all day. methadone has much more of that type of effect, though it also doesn’t get you high like heroin does.
              what kills me is that addiction is still so much seen as a weakness of character, or a moral failing, when it really isn’t. and just throwing people in jail for being addicted takes away much of the possibility that they can be recovered. once someone has a felony conviction, it makes it harder to get a job, an apartment or even social services in some places. restoring someone’s equilibrium for them to be able to take care of themselves without social services at the beginning and without gainful employment or a place to live is pretty hard.
              Recovering addicts need support services, which is “expensive” but worth it in the long run. there is no easy fix though. Suboxone, methadone etc. can help,in conjunction with talk therapy and other services.

      • My friend quit it by being sent to jail. Hard way. Works for some. Also, Naloxone.

        • Frodis73

          I’m really happy for your friend Dodo. It’s a miracle, and while occasionally somebody does get clean in jail, it really doesn’t work…if it did we wouldn’t be in the situation we are in…we have been cracking down hard and jailing addicts for 30 years and the problem has gotten worse (for many reasons, not just jail over treatment) rather than better.

          • I agree jails are not solutions for some users. Naloxone is OD solution though and needs to be provided to every cop and fireman.

  • kemist

    A bit of comic relief after today’s news :

    https://mobile.twitter.com/DBagChopra/status/663792228616269824?p=v

    • Juicer77

      Hilarious parody name!

  • Liberated

    Right now, on the Bill Maher show scientology is being discussed in comparison to Trump ‘s school, con scams, sociopathy etc. Do or say anything for one’s own selfish ends. Great discussion.!

  • beauty for ashes

    Can’t give y’all hugs, but I can give y’all kitteh kat videos. Sorry everyone is having such a rough day. Really disappointing ain’t this shit? Notice the 1;07 mark and where maru’s foot rests. 🙂 Oh and screw you courts!
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA2FZxdL7e8

    • salin

      Gonna tag on with another distraction – ‘Stray Cat Strut’.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vEtbfzMLVWU

      • beauty for ashes

        Oh I don’t bother chasing mice around! do do bee do

        • salin

          ‘Don’t have enough to pay the rent – but I don’t care… I strut right by with my tail in the air….’

          • beauty for ashes

            They should teach (this to)children, dontcha think?
            singin the blues while the lady cats cry…. Edited

            • salin

              Cautionary tale – and endurable blend of musical styles – two fer as a lesson.

    • Susan B.

      Is that a British Shorthair? I’ve always wanted to meet one in person. Anyone here have one?

      • beauty for ashes

        You know Susan, I think Maru is a Dutch fold. like this adorable one (F5) but I could be wrong.

        • vicariousthrill

          how could anyone ever dislike cats after looking at that face?

        • Susan B.

          adorable. 🙂

      • Juicer77

        He’s a Scottish Fold. 🙂

    • I love Maru. Best internet cat ever.

  • Frodis73

    OT-i just saw a quick clip about some freakout/brawl at a Trump rally. Xenu, help us!

    • Steve Juts

      Chicago and St Louis today,

      This is what happens when you preach hate. And Trump knows exactly what he is doing as he’s been preaching this rhetoric for years. It’s now paying off for him. No matter what he says, he is controlling this “Brown Shirt” business.

      What makes it even more horrifying if it is possible to make it more horrifying is that Rubio is blaming the violence on Obama’s liberal policies.

      • Ella Raitch

        The politics of fear

  • Observer

    I’m watching The Fog (the original with Jamie Lee Curtis). I saw it when it first came out. It’s still creepy, and Adrienne Barbeau’s character is still annoying.

    • Frodis73

      Lol, was she ever not annoying? i do love that movie though..been awhile since i have watched it.

      • Observer

        It’s on El Rey if you get it

  • thetastic

    Thank you, Jonny, for all you do.

  • jazzlover
  • Egos, emotions, profits, failures. Ffuck. Stay on target. Nice weekend to all.

  • Observer

    Random horse humor which has nothing to do with Jenna Elfman.

    Good night, Bunker pals.

    F5

    • daisy

      Night Obs- Thank you Jenna for the well that will never dry up

  • daisy

    A while back I heard or read? about the suspicious death of a protester o scientology- The kid who John Sweeny was trying to interview in the BBC document * I am mad real mad* Does anybody have a link or know where to look for the story. I don’t remember the kids name.

    • Robert Eckert

      Shawn Lonsdale

      • daisy

        Thank you.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Here is Shawn’s picture, on the far right.

      • daisy

        Thank you , yesterday I couldn’t make out some of the faces in your protest pictures, now that the names are attached I know all of their stories. Shawn was a hero . I was profoundly sorry about his death either by his own hand or foul play. I loved his memorial bench and heartened by the love all of all of the SP*S. Bets I am also heartened by you. You give me as smile everyday. Your sweetness and compassion show through your actions and your word, thank you for all you do

      • Skabetti

        This is too many, too young. Sigh.

  • outraged

    Seen in LA:

    • Juicer77

      🙂

  • Juicer77

    Tomorrow will be better… (f5)

  • OOkpik

    Good morning, Bunkeroos.

  • Just Dee
    • OOkpik

      It’s a hoax!
      A malicious attempt to draw clicks to a website for profit.

      • Just Dee

        That’s what I was thinking – hubby found it and I said it’s probably bull. Would be nice but obviously I immediately went to this website because I know Tony would have something if it were true!

      • Just Dee

        lol he just checked snopes – false. Too early for me, didn’t even think of snopes!

      • Dee Findlay-DeElizabethan

        Right, but it was sweet music!

    • Bunker Buggy Betsy

      Hoax, of course, but John Alex Wood & his subordinates spent the day telling people they must apologize for RTing it instead of gloating over the mistrail in Belgium!

    • Qbird

      Just Dee – hiya pretty lily!
      Would you consider doing an edit & wiping out that link?
      Just so it doesn’t get more hits from unsuspecting peeps…
      Paul, this writer, is not honest & fair. I believe he feels his work is justified because it is {funny ‘satire’} but he runs his website deceitfully.
      I know he changes the comments in his comment section to support his business, bc he changed mine. :::fuck that shit:::
      Apparently, that’s his gig however… more clicks means he gets more money from his advertisers.
      nice to see you, Q

      • Just Dee

        Sorry it took me so long to see your reply or I would have done it sooner!

  • Sir Derf

    Bloody hell. Now the fucking criminals are going to demand that their crimes are some how not crimes.

  • richelieu jr

    This, I found telling, from the additional details on the Judge’s reasoning that Jonny J got from t a Belgian Lawyer and just posted:

    “One would not prosecute a pedophile priest on the basis of what the Bible said, the judge argued.”

    Well, of course not, but then again, the Bible doesn’t say “That shalt cornhole kindergartner’s either. IF it did, then it would be valid evidence; And Hubbard does say ‘Thou shalt lie, lie,lie, and make Money, Money , Money” , Wog laws Don’t Count, constantly.

    Read more at:https://www.byline.com/project/45/article/895

  • Strelnikov

    Belgium would be open for scads of trials from whatever other cults are operating in the country if this one had worked because then they would have precedence. Judge Yves Régimont has only extended the interregnum before the inevitable death of Scientology in Belgium and all the lawsuits to follow.

    • Qbird

      I like the way you think, Streinikov. Let us hope that it will be so.
      Legal / Courtroom Public exposure ~ more please. Yes.