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Scientology becoming a ghost town; ALSO: Illinois man arrested for threatening Miscavige

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The “L. Ron Hubbard Golden Age” theater troupe visited a middle school in St. Petersburg, Florida recently in order to bring back to life the words of the pulp fiction writer. Having actors read the corn-pone tales that Hubbard cranked out in the 1930s is just one of a dizzying number of stealthy ways that Scientology tries to spread the influence of Hubbard and, ultimately, gain new members.

Over the years, we’ve brought you many images of Scientology front groups peddling Hubbard around the world, and in these images, the best possible face is put on the activities and the crowds they draw.

But through multiple lines of influence, we judge that Scientology is shrinking really quite quickly now, and the movement is having a much tougher time motivating even its longtime members to get involved, let alone the raw public it needs for new blood.

At his blog, Mike Rinder, the former Scientology spokesman, has been especially effective at gathering recent internal communications which, sometime in subtle ways it takes someone like Rinder to recognize, the real situation comes through. Scientology is dwindling fast.

We know that the image we’re about to show you is only anecdotal and doesn’t really prove anything. But we really appreciate that when the L. Ron Hubbard Golden Age troupe was performing the Great Thetan’s old western, someone had the nice idea of getting a shot of the crowd.

 
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That sparse scene reminded us of something we meant to post a while back but never got around to. Mark Bunker sent us some photos after he happened to wander by Scientology’s Winter Wonderland in Clearwater on a Friday morning at about 10 am on December 11. He was surprised that on such a beautiful morning, right in prime Christmas shopping season, the place was completely deserted.

 
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And one more report, this time something posted on Facebook by Cindy Plahuta. Cindy lives in Colorado, and we’ve written previously about how Scientology’s disconnection policy has ripped apart her relationship with her daughter. Here’s how she described a recent trip to Clearwater, at a time of year when Florida’s draw as a tourist destination is about as strong as it gets.

Matt and I took a trip to Florida a couple of weeks ago. We just had to poke the hornet’s nest a little bit. We went to Flag on a Saturday morning between 11 and 12. The Winter Wonderland was open but not one person or child was partaking in that fun!

We walked over to the Super Power Building and had our photo taken in front by a Sea Org member!

The biggest take away was how empty the streets were. It used to be fairly busy on Cleveland and Ft Harrison on Saturday mornings. Most of the shops are empty on Cleveland; even Peter Gilham’s was permanently closed.

We went down Waterman St to check out the new ABLE front groups and it was completely empty.

It is a completely different town than it used to be when I went to Flag for my obligatory six month checks! It is a ghost town!

 
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Like we said, it’s just anecdotal. But at the same time that Scientology leader David Miscavige is making a major push with press releases on the web and trying to scare off major media, he has less and less to show for it.

 
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Barking mad: Illinois man charged with threatening Miscavige

The Los Angeles Times is reporting this morning that a Chicago man named Andre Barkanov has been arrested and charged with 12 felony counts for making threatening phone calls to the Church of Scientology and claiming that he was going to assassinate church leader David Miscavige.

In September, TMZ reported that threatening phone calls were made in July, and in one of the calls a Scientology receptionist had kept the man on the line for three hours. This appears to be the same case.

“On July 23, eight more phone calls from the same telephone number were made to the church. In the last call, according to the affidavit, the message was blunt: ‘Tell [Miscavige] that we have a bullet for his forehead. OK? Thank you’,” says the Times.

The church said that Barkanov had no involvement with Scientology. On Skype, he had used the name Andre Barkan. He sounds like a nutter.

 
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3D-UnbreakablePosted by Tony Ortega on January 6, 2016 at 07:00

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BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of L.A. attorney and former church member Vance Woodward
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GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice
SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

Other links: The Lisa McPherson story told in real time | The Cathriona White stories | The Leah Remini ‘Knowledge Reports’ | Hear audio of a Scientology excommunication | Scientology’s little day care of horrors | Whatever happened to Steve Fishman? | Felony charges for Scientology’s drug rehab scam | PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer | The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill | The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

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  • I want to brag about my 13 year old daughter cat Skittles. She is so knowledgeable and educated. She demanded I fill her dish to the top this morning, even though it was still 3/4s full. Her argument was well reasoned and she had two cites for every point. I had to concede and fill it up. To celebrate her victory, she projectile vomited, which was like confetti. It completed the celebratory feelings we had around here. I foresee Skittles going places in the future, such as her warm spot by the register, and to the cat box. So proud of my cat! 😀

    • Sid

      Then there is hope for mankind after all. Once we all realize our purpose on this planet is to serve cats all will be well in the world.

      • Ancient Egyptians had it right and cats still remember this!! 🙂

        • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

          I have three of them getting “The Operation” now, so that they don’t make any kittens in the future.

          • Juicer77

            All rescue groups and shelters thank you. 🙂

            • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

              The mother cat wasn’t so sure, even after I returned them to the backyard this afternoon.

            • Juicer77

              But she’ll be thrilled next time some lover boy comes a-callin’ and she can be kitten-free. 🙂 They will forgive you, in time. Especially if you are Food Source.

            • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

              She spent the night nearby their cage, so she knows they’re safe. I’m giving them a little wet food to break their medically-required fast in a couple of hours, unfortunately one of the boys had a testicle that hasn’t made it to the outside yet, so we have to wait on him for a while before he gets the Operation.

      • Alice Graves

        You have now entered the wisdom of the Ancients.

    • Juicer77

      That’s for squishing my tail, you jerk! 😉

      • I still feel awful!! She has NOT returned to that spot though!!!

    • pat k

      Hope her hair balls make you proud!

      • She never throws up hair balls, it’s always undigested food! Her chirruns do that too, so the doctor said it’s obviously a hereditary thing. Skittles wasn’t fixed until I got her from the neighbors—plus some of her chirrun that I didn’t already have, they got fixed then too.

    • stillgrace2

      Hello Miss Tia. I purposely set my trusty B.S. detector on “Low-LetItGo” today after yesterday’s influx of slingers. Now you have accidentally set it off again. Skittles has a place in my heart.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        bwahahaha

      • I passed that on to Skittles, she humbly accepts such things. (I was feeling rather impish this afternoon 😉

    • beauty for ashes

      I just had projectile laughter! now I’m wheez-laughing like an old guy.

      • Projectile laughter is much better than projectile vomiting! 😀

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Given the Death threats. Please join me in Toasting David Miscavige a nice long life.

    • MostEthicalPimp

      And remember OSA is watching here and would love to paint us all with the same brush as nutter call church with death threats guy.

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Of course, I would wish no harm on COB and hope to see him in the dock, then convicted, then sent to prison… and have to share his cell with a large gentleman called ‘Bubba’!

      • outraged

        To those in OSA watching.
        We are waiting for you.
        We are here for you.
        You will be fine.
        Save your soul, join the living and leave.

        https://youtu.be/iuTJ98_znVM

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)
    • outraged

      That is Awesome!!!!
      A tip of the hat to Alex Gibney and HBO!!!
      Go Team Going Clear!

    • aquaclara

      Isn’t this terrific. Great work, Alex and Lawrence and the entire team behind Going Clear. This is going to be a fun awards season.

      Tony, who will you be wearing on the red carpet?

    • Allie

      The WGA ceremony is Sat Feb. 13, 2016. The three other nominations for the docu field are:
      Being Canadian, Prophet’s Prey and Kurt Cobain: Montage of Heck.
      Congrats to Alex and the gang!

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Them winning would be a great birthday present. 🙂

        • Allie

          Indeed! and we’ll have caek to celebrate your day 😀

    • JanInThePan

      Not an Oscar prediction? Perhaps. Maybe it’s the Oscarus Meritorious Freedom Medal of Valor to be found on the Front Porch of Infinity..

  • Nat-leficent

    If that “superpower” whirlygig is only four tickets are tickets like four grand each? XD

    • Newiga

      Four grand and four eternities. 😛

    • SucculentDuck

      and bring your own extra nuts and bolts to hold it together during the ride, since looking closely at the rim of the trailer it’s on, i’m not sure any of that would pass inspection. maybe someone can grab a few before leaving the RPF to run this thing?

  • Sir Derf

    “… someone had the nice idea of getting a shot of the crowd…”

    And those were the people who were required to be there for some reason, part of a school assignment or some other reason where they had no choice. Or people who were trying to study for their classes and trying to read or get other work done when these Sciewntology clowns made noise below.

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  • Sir Derf

    “Andre Barkanov”

    It looks like this nut is not one of Scientology’s “satisfied customers” which often does exactly this after they realize they have been swindled and defrauded.

    • Juicer77

      I wondered the same thing about the “drive-thru” $ci facility in Texas a couple weeks ago. But if there were any connection the ex’s here and Tony’s sources would have spoken up.

  • Mark

    With thanks to Cindy and Matt for the photos, and apologies yet again to Percy Bysshe Shelley… (refresh desolate sighing-wind sound-effects):

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      (So, does panel four show us the decay of that diminutive wreck?)

      • Mark

        I think he shrivels under prolonged exposure to direct sunlight. Why else does he have those awnings over his outdoor podiums (apart from protection from potentially incontinent flying pigs and elephants)?

  • That’s pretty Specials news. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RZ2oXzrnti4

  • Alice Graves

    Sages have long said that Heaven is rolling with laughter. I’ve always thought it was the
    irony of existence that was amusing everybody, and now I’m sure that’s right.

    Can anyone anywhere find better comedy than these corn pone shows of desperate and frenetic enthusiasm by people who don’t even know what they’re pawning off on an unknowing public?
    Or the 2016 New Years Address by David Miscavige?

    I think the Bunker and the Mike Rinder contributors and commenting community have some of the greatest comedians around. They’ve been there and have seen and lived the abject tragedy juxtaposed up against the insanity of it all. This is why their humor is so acute.

    I have to make sure I take my blood pressure medicine every day because I know I could have a stroke for as hard as I laugh every day at the contributors here. Bless you all.

  • aquaclara

    This pic of Scientologists in the schools just makes me ill. Who the hell is looking out for these kids? How on earth does any school in the Tampa Bay area not know what’s up with this? If all else fails, and since they have bypassed the all-too-obvious point that you should never let a cult come anywhere near kids, how come a religious (ha) organization is allowed in public school.

    I’m disgusted. Utterly disgusted.

    Anyone know what school this is?

    • ReallyMGM

      Aqua, I wondered the same thing. Is this a public or private school?

      I’d be willing to bet, however, this theater group’s official description somehow separates them from the official “ch3rch” so they can sneak it into public schools with minimal questions. I know this group says they do “no prosethetizing” but would a 12 yo know? Who is the watchdog for the children’s rights at the assembly?

      Opens up another set of questions. At what age do we teach our children about coercive persuasion? College age kids are prime target age, but the warnings should come earlier. (I remember my mom warning me about Moonies before going to college. I thought she had lost her mind.)

      • aquaclara

        It looks like Tyrone Middle School’s gym, so public. Those are their colors, and that unusual shade is their gym color. In fact, I don’t know of another school in St Pete with those same colors on the gym walls. Wish we could enlarge the logo on the floor to be sure.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Nailed it. Here are two photos– one of the theater performance, and another showing Tyrone Middle School Gym. They are the same room.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Here is another photo of the Golden Age troupe taken from the same angle in the gym:

          • aquaclara

            Thank you! I will post some contact info later when I get back.

      • scottmercer

        As Tony says, I guess the goal is to soft-peddle Hubbard by introducing kids through his fiction (which is so juvenile that it definitely would appeal to kids over adults) and then maybe later, these kids, when they become sullen teenagers looking for their own identity, will pick up one of Hubbard’s…OTHER books. They are definitely working THE LONG CON. (Since CoS is shrinking so terribly, I have to ask…how’s that long con working out for ya?)

        • ReallyMGM

          Yesterday I mentioned the old L Ron SciFi book I saw being offered through Amazon last month for $.99. Checking Amazon there are a number of the old fiction books for that price. Like you say, entry level…then Dianetics and beyond.

    • Juicer77

      As with any government system, every few years the administrators and staff turn over, so collective memory is very short. But one has to wonder how these schools, which are right in the heart of $ciland and their shenanigans, continue to ignore them.

  • TexasBroad

    All I wish upon David Miscavige is this —
    a long magical moment wherein his own cognitive dissonance and thought-stopping is disabled and the sharp reality of the entire fraud and his own perpetuation of it is laid bare in total clarity, while every rationalization dissolves to dust and the truth of every act and deed he ever committed is made known to him for what they were and not as what he pretended them to be, and that in that moment he be cursed with humanity and conscience and with awareness that, not only did he not create the game, nor was he the master of it – that he has spent his life as the most pathetic, empty, broken pawn in a con borne of a dead man’s mental illness.
    Edited to add: And shingles.

  • Observer

    It’s coming, slowly but surely …

  • Ben Franklin

    A bit OT for today but I am curious to know if what is depicted in the attached video is the fashion show that happens at Fort Harrison. I remember a while back there was some talk of a Florida politicians wife being invited to participate. Some of the “models” are also CoS officials in Florida

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ddaX6xe-Yhg

    • ReallyMGM

      Pat Harney, the spokesperson on the radio show this morning, is the second model (1:29) the fashion show. Just so you can put a face with the propaganda.

      • Ben Franklin

        …and Joannie Sigal who is also a model on the show is the person in charge of the East Coast Golden Age theater troupe, the folks in the photo above performing in an almost empty gymnasium. I believe Joannie is the lady in the photo above

    • Sunny Sands

      Thanks for posting this. It really emphasizes the safepointing going on. Sheriff Jim Coats’ wife, a public school teacher, a downtown Clearwater development person, other sheriff’s dept. employee, ugh, can’t watch anymore.

    • salin

      I think you are refering to Congressman David Jolly, who is running in the republican primary for the Senate.

      • Ben Franklin

        Yes, David Jolly

  • Newiga

    O/T: Looks like I can’t even breathe towards You Tube without getting targeted with Scientology ads. F5

    “Not just questions, but answers.” OK then. Where is Shelly??

    • scottmercer

      Is a 60 year old religion new??? Well, maybe in comparison to Islam or Christianity, but the mantle of “new” is just another marketing slogan really.

  • Hamtaro

    Tony has warned of a backlash in 2016. I’m sure he’s right because he has all the best sources.
    But if you think about it: what will be the result of this backlash?
    Will millions of people suddenly decide Scientology sounds like a great religion? Nope.
    Will thousands of people rush into Ideal Orgs and take intro services to start up the Bridge? Nope.
    Will thousands of new Scientologists decide to devote their lives to it and join the Sea Org? Nope.
    Will dozens of new financial whales appear and start giving millions to Davey’s delusions? Oh, please…

    So, what will happen? The tsunami of mainstream media coverage that started with Going Clear in Jan. 2015 at Sundance will be continued for an additional year, except now some of it will have a “what’s all the fuss about; are the critics being too hard on Scientology?” slant. Which, in the 24 hour news biz, will just encourage a constant retelling of all the gruesome accusations: disconnection, forced abortions, child labor, slave labor in the SO and financial extortion. Plus the usual gossip about Scn celeb craziness. Concurrently or subsequent to those shows, most news outlets will invite Tony, Rinder, Gibney, et al on again to answer this so-called new question “why all the fuss?” and then it’s come full circle. Except, at some point, Miscavige Sr. will release his book and everyone will hear from the father’s mouth how horrible his son (and his son’s organization) really is. The whole TV and online world will learn the phrase “let him die.”

    In the end, most rational people, even if they never heard of Scientology before 2016, will decide that it’s a crazy, vicious cult with a sociopathic leader and they should stay away from it. As Rinder says, 2016 is the year of “more pain.”

    At least, that’s this hamster’s opinion.

    • Wise hamster is wise.

    • TonyOrtega

      Will millions suddenly decide Scientology is a good thing? No. But why has Scientology been able to operate the way it has for 60 years? Because the vast public, and the people who could actually do something about it, just don’t care. More than six years after Rathbun and Rinder and the others came out and began telling their story — and telling and telling and telling it — I think they’re realizing how hard it is to build the kind of momentum that Going Clear has managed. Now come the what’s the fuss mouthpieces, and that public apathy will be reinforced. Sure, Scientology is weird. All religions are. CNN said so. What’s the fuss.

      • Hamtaro

        Totally agree. I was simply saying that the folks who become aware won’t want it. You’re absolutely right: the huge (and silent) majority will continue not to notice or care about its abuses.

        • TonyOrtega

          The vast majority have never wanted it. Dianetics and Scientology, since 1950, has only ever appealed to a tiny minority. Keeping all but a few people from joining has never been a problem. But Scientology will continue to rip families apart and exploit child labor as long as the majority think it’s not worth caring about.

          • Hamtaro

            Agree again. Maybe my original comment sounded like I was stating a conflicting opinion to your post today. I wasn’t. Merely my opinion that the end result of a full year of “what’s all the fuss about?” news pieces will still end up with Scn netting more bad press and continuing to shrink significantly and that I believe Ron Sr’s book will be a significant catalyst.

      • Tinfoil hat alert. May be someone connected to scientology paid Barkanov to make those calls.

      • Mary

        You just said it, Tony. I for one am sick of hearing the “all religions have weird beliefs” and then let the church of scientology continue to get away with its abuses.

      • Kay

        Well dismissing Scientology with that “all religions are weird” argument is like legitimizing the Manson family by dismissively saying “well you know, each unhappy family is just unhappy in their own way.” (Tolstoy quote) sigh

        • daytoncapri

          We need more analogies like that.

      • scottmercer

        Unfortunately I think the “what’s the fuss” crowd has two strong components: 1) the establishment gatekeepers, like the CNN talking heads you mention. “You peons don’t get to decide what an important story is, we do that” and 2) the hardcore atheists that want to conflate Scientology with mainstream religions, throw them all in the same bucket. Well, the Catholic church has had its share of problems, as well as many other faiths with millions of adherents But the “all religions are weird and bad” people don’t understand that Scientology isn’t even a religion, it’s an organized crime syndicate pretending that it’s a religion. I think public opinion though is slowly moving away from “oh yeah, that weird Hollywood religion that Tom Cruise and John Travolta belong to,” to “Ack! Crazy cult! Get away! And where’s Shelley anyway?” In other words, the depth of knowledge about Scientology in the aware public has gone way, way, way up. Thanks to you Tony, Rinder, Gibney, Remini, Rathbun, etc. etc.

      • They’re not very fussy about who they go to bed with.

      • Kim O’Brien

        i get what what you mean …but with the whole 24/7 news cycle …and the constant fear and rage machine ..i think most people are just ” trauma exhausted ” . I am still so glad that i got rid of the TV . I am so much better informed ..about LOTS of stuff . Things can not really be covered in a 3 minute segment . Actual reporters like you …are a gem

        • Sejanus

          “Trauma exhausted”…I like that term.
          Quite accurate.

      • Phil McKraken

        Real progress on dismantling The Owner’s continued stranglehold hinges on one particular hard to predict linchpin — the IRS deciding to yank the rug. I can’t see, in this day and age when the IRS has been totally cowed into permitting rampant abuse of religious-based exemption status across the board, that they do it. Especially under Obama. Or Hillary Clinton. Or any Republican president.

      • Mockingbird

        Kind of depressing when you put it that way. May I quote you ?

      • “All that is required for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing”

    • TexasBroad

      What’s all the fuss about what’s all the fuss? Is this an infinity porch thing cuz I missed most of that.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Looking at how good Scientology is at making people avoid an area. It gives me an idea! One of the problems faced by nuclear waste disposal is how to make people avoid the area assuming society collapses. It seams just erecting some Scientology crosses and free personality test sign on the entrance would do the job. If that doesn’t stop’em then just have a CST Vault and photo of LRH full grin for anyone who comes in.

    • Missionary Kid

      Great suggestion. *Snickersnort*

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I think we have all been very, very unkind in pointing out that the L. Ron Hubbard Golden Age Theatre troupe has been spotted performing in a virtually deserted middle school gymnasium. Reality is in the eye of the beholder. Source (as always) put it best: Truth is what is true for you.

    • SucculentDuck

      nice one Triple D Douglas 2x! reality is in the mind of the beholden. as Tony pointed out, anecdotal, yet a majority of the kids are as far back as possible and not paying attention. i like to think they’re Instagramming it to the rest of the school… you know, the ones not in detention or required to be there. i count only one girl even facing the performance and she’s fixing her hair so probably a totally unintentional coincidence.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I think you all have been too, too kind. Trust me on this one.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The video you posted above removes any doubt…!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          It’s that fakiness thing. brrrrr

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Dana Carvey’s Church Lady was not an entirely fictional creation…

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              LOL you nailed it

  • Jimmy3

    David Miscavige: OH YEAH?? Well I’ll shoot you first!

    *blows off his own toe*

    David Miscavige: %@&#%#^*%^#%~!!!!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Joanie Sigal and Tom Godfrey have been OSA’s little helpers for ages. They might also be the reason Flag audiences have to endure Chill E B now – as a step up from the musical renderings of Joanie and Tom. When not bleeding ears throughout the county and now, damn, school kids in my county, they keep busy networking with the same old, same old, sticking their nose in everyone’s business. You’d be hard pressed to find a more obvious fake smile and laugh. Tom, at least, used to be benign.

    Last time I saw Joanie, she came rushing up to me with the most scooched up facial expression and odd pretend accent that I’d ever heard. She was pretending to be someone other than Joanie Sigal. She was being OSA’s clever spy lady. I was just getting up from my chair at the bayside restaurant’s decks and when I turned, she’d thrust that screwed up face just inches away from mine. edit: (she had no idea who I was; she probably knew everyone else at the table though and wondered how I figured in to it all)

    I was having a wonderful impromptu party celebration with a few anons and some wonderful critics, a Gathering of Quaint SP’s, celebrating a visit from one of my favs, Sparrow. First time we’d met in person. I’d seen this lady not far from our table for awhile because she’d been staring so long. She wanted to know what the party was for. I told her some off the wall answer. She then of course rattled off more questions, which we all ignored we paraded out the door. She started to follow, but then I turned, looked straight at her, blew a little kiss and waved.
    http://i.imgur.com/a2rZq4n.jpg?2

    The only kind of theater either are good at is strictly key stone cop. Here’s a vid of them performing at Flag. I warned you all about the Chill E B vid – so I have to give fair warning on this one too. Listen at your own risk.

    https://youtu.be/TdN5XMTiiFs

    This school had OSA all up in it’s bleachers. I hope no names and contact info was given. If not, they really deserve to have a heads up.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      That video looks like the worst audition tape ever sent in to SNL…

    • salin

      TheyShould be called ‘The Beingness of Broadway bellowed Badly’.

    • Ben Franklin

      Joannie Sigal seems to be a everywhere.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9B15AD9yABw

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yep. She’s in everybody’s biz.

    • Mary

      Eee Gads! Ouch!

    • Kay

      That is hilariously bad, truly.

    • BabySmurfette

      Reminds me of the SNL skit with Will Farrell and (can’t remember her name) that play keyboard and sing at school assemblies!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Ana Gasteyer. Bear in mind, Will and Ana are talented individuals who make haplessness entertaining. These two are just hapless.

    • scottmercer

      Slightly above average in comparison to karaoke night at my local bowling alley.

    • aquaclara

      Hole, I’m trying to figure out what school this is (since the principal might really like to know what’s going on at his or her school). It looks like Tyrone Middle. What do you think?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Could be – or Azalea or 74th but hard to tell just from this.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Tyrone. I posted photos below. Same emblem on the floor, same color scheme.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Tyrone it is. Photos posted below.

      • Juicer77

        Sounds like time to get in touch with them and provide some pertinent facts.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Oh, duh. I looked at their Facebook page. It’s Tyrone.

        https://www.facebook.com/EastCoastGoldenAgeTheater/photos/pb.244193035694390.-2207520000.1452116641./921234771323543/?type=3&theater

        The original photos without cropping is even more poignant.

        (refresh)

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thanks, DDD. Damn, in my neighborhood too. They didn’t even bother to drive by and leave me a dead rat, or punch in my mailbox, or leave weird things on my doorstep.
          Did OSA break up with me? 🙂

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            The weird thing was left in the middle school gym…

            • Sherbet

              Notice: Doug DD is on fire today.

          • Juicer77

            Hey, my Christmas wish came true!

    • Lionel Drinkwater

      There are few things more socially embarrassing in life than older and completely talentless people inflicting themselves on a captive audience. It’s a good thing I am a CC public here in Hollywood. CC would never permit this sort painful amateur hour house of horrors here.

    • Allie

      Not.gonna.do.it. Taking heed to your warnings this time. Maintaining sanity.

    • aegerprimo
    • Mockingbird

      OSA’a little helpers are not Santa’s little helpers !!! I don’t want them stuffing my stocking !

    • Ella Raitch

      “It don’t mean a bitch, if you ain’t got pitch…”

  • Rita G

    A nut from Illinois, who could have guessed? I was hoping maybe it was our governor who made the threat…

  • scottmercer

    Not to correct Our Proprietor, but… Yes, anecdotes are not evidence. They are just one point in the data set. People shouldn’t draw conclusions from one anecdote. But when anecdotes start piling up, and they all show the same thing again and again over time, that Scientology is a shell of its former self, that’s when they cross the line into evidence.

    • Lionel Drinkwater

      Scotty, you are missing the glaring out points. As a dedicated upstat Scientologist my entire NOTs case was savagely keyed in and buzzing when I saw this photo:

      http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/GhostTown5.jpg

      • Lionel Drinkwater

        Exhibit 2 Scotty: I paid over $100,000 to use the exact same device inside the Super Power Building! When the Church starts giving away the Tech for free for the amusement of local Clearwater wogs that is not safepointing the Church; that is Flag going criminal! I have already written KR’s and copied every terminal in the Church.

        http://images2.villagevoice.com/imager/u/original/6722583/superpowerspin.jpg

        • Ben Franklin

          what is the shiny silver looking ball like thing used for?

          • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

            It’s a sphere. You are put inside the sphere, you stay there until you have a cognition, and then it “cracks open” like an egg and you are “born again”.

            I have no idea, I am just guessing. It’s nice and shiny though 🙂

          • Juicer77

            It’s Baby’s. No touching!!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            ..

            • Observer

          • Robert Eckert
          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            F5 🙂

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Glinda arrives in it and tells you you had the power to return home all along. But not until you get to OT Level X.

          • Lionel Drinkwater

            The crystalline sphere is filled with a warm and slippery pearlescent goo with the consistency of amniotic fluid that is supposed to replicate the womb. You have to undress so that you are nude. Attendants immerse you in the sphere and then violently poke and prod you with knitting needles, coat hangers, Lysol douches, etc. to simulate all of the forced abortions with which your mother and father tried to kill you. This is done while they scream obscenities at you about how you are not wanted. The father character keeps screaming that your mother is a slut and a whore and you are not his child. It is all very Scientology. You are then repeatedly asked the question: “Where would you be safe?” Once you cognite that you can only be safe in Scientology you F/N and complete the process.

            I floated around in the womb-sphere for twleve hours and experienced the 137 abortions that were attempted upon me by my mother and father. I made up all of these abortions but, per Dianetics the Modern Science of Mental Health, they all happened and so the Founder evaluated for me. Nevertheless, one must go along with the program.

            Once I finished the program I went for dinner at Flag and was forcibly tortured with the screeching cat noises of Joanie Sigal and Tom Godfrey singing. I wished for someone to shove knitting needles into my eardrums to rupture them and thus free me from this horrific and painful engram-producing musical implant.

        • chukicita

          You mean you paid money and not just 4 tickets?

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    The next time anyone tells you that Scientology “gives back” to the community in any way, point them to the attached article. Every year, Clearwater’s “Winter Wonderland” is a gift to the community from the Church of Scientology, right? It is presented by a front group called the Clearwater Community Volunteers. This group presents a number of activities (fashion show, Easter Egg hunt, etc.) thoughout the year, and Scientology then claims this as their contribution to a better Clearwater.

    But, as is always the case, it turns out that the CCV really does expect the “volunteers” to pony up the time and resources. While credit goes to the CoS, it is individuals who actually foot the bill and provide free labor.

    And here is an article thanking the local utility company for replacing the rotting stage for this year’s Winter Wonderland! You heard that right– the Church of Scientology, with over a billion dollars in readily available assets, sent volunteers hat in hand to find someone else to provide a $40,000 stage for the community stage they will now take credit for!

    QUOTE:
    In the weeks and months leading up to the opening of Winter Wonderland on Friday, there was a problem identified with the set. It was originally designed to only be used for one year, but had been continued to be used for 14 years. The floors were no longer safe to walk on and the Clearwater Community Volunteers weren’t sure where they money was going to come from to fix the set

    “It was our honor to be able to provide for the Clearwater Community Volunteers so the Winter Wonderland could continue to be a part of our community,” explained Jim Bridgeforth, president of American Power & Gas. “We want to ensure this continues so those who are in need will be able to have food and toys this holiday season…”

    https://www.americanpowerandgas.com/energy-companys-president-steps-up-to-donate-40000-to-clearwater-winter-wonderland/

    • BabySmurfette

      disgusting

    • Ben Franklin

      Clearwater Community Volunteers is pretty much run and staffed by Scientologists.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yes. This is why I refer to it as a front group.

      • Jimmy3

        But American Power and Gas doesn’t seem to be, which I took as DDD’s point. Legitimate companies are being suckered into donating to a front that has more than enough to foot the bill.

    • ze moo

      Good catch triple D. I think this is the ‘energy reseller’ that employs ‘Hubbtard Tech’ and employs clams. Any ‘donations’ were a tax write off for the company and if this is the only pr they got out of it, they were rooked. As the rest of the Clearwater community wouldn’t be caught dead near the clampire, it probably had a negative impact on the companies ‘reputation’.

    • aquaclara

      I think that’s a company with Scientology ties….

      • BabySmurfette

        I hope so – and only for the fact that I would hate to see that non-Scieno’s in their own backyard are either 1) clueless and/or apathetic about the cult or 2) knowingly supporting the cult.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist
        • Douglas D. Douglas

          It’s all so… interwoven and tangled.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The point remains that the CoS does not provide anything for the community, but rather makes their public cough up the time and resources.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        has to be,, NO COMPANY that is a energy company big or small would provide such services and NOT look into the group it’s providing services for and taking them on face value of a generic name..

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Legoland…

    • Juicer77

      And anyone who doesn’t know about the front groups will take this self serving statement at face value.

    • Sunny Sands

      Review of American Power and Gas on Yelp by Jim:

      “5/2/2015

      I was actually an employee in their Dunedin, FL dump for three days and was terminated on the third day (April 8, 2015). Almost one month later, I still haven’t received my paycheck. I have called several times to no avail. Several complaints exist on various websites about deceptive billing and less than ethical selling practices. Darlene’s post is pretty much the same everyone else has posted. It is to my understanding they have at least one lawsuit pending against them. One guy in my training class hired had FIVE felonies. Most of the people there were unkempt and poorly groomed. Many looked like they came off a three day drug binge or drunk. Maybe I was terminated because they figured I wouldn’t follow along with their practices. If these people call you, just hang up. If you value your name and integrity, do not apply there for work.”

      • JanInThePan

        Sounds like $ci to me..

    • J. Swift

      Flag Service Organization 2010 book value was $209,655,686 and yet FSO needs $40,000 from American Power & Gas to fix Winder Wonderland. The Scientologists at Flag are laughing their asses off at how they took one of their own Jim Bridgeforth, president of American Power & Gas for a $40,000 ride.

      Shareholders and the Board of American Power & Gas should be outraged by Bridgeforth’s having donated $40,000 to his ultra-wealthy Church that has already several billion dollars. Bridgeforth did not add any shareholder value here.

      http://i112.photobucket.com/albums/n196/scienowriter/FSO.2012_zpsev5y9563.png

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Thanks for adding dimension with facts!

  • pluvo

    Katie Melua’s “Ghost Town” came to my mind when I saw the photos of ghost town Clearwater.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0pm3lmvI0I

  • Kay

    In what delusional universe does the Co$ think that middle-aged amateur performers doing a cowboy schtick based on a sub-par fiction writer they will never be interested in, is going to appeal to ANY junior high kid ANYWHERE !! It’s truly laughable and smacks of desperation, or the need to appear to be doing something useful for TPTB.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      I was shocked to hear Chukicita explain much earlier in the day that Pinellas County no longer has an art council. If there’s ever an argument to put the damn thing back (and a lot of incredible people too), it’s that OSA snaked their way in when the council was removed. Of course, we are talking about funding removed. Snakes, snakes in the grass and rats in the nests.

      • One Human

        With bats in their belfrys.

      • chukicita

        There are other organizations that have arisen to try to fill the gaps. Some of them have really good people in them. But I shudder to think about the vulnerability.

        Really, though, the school district used to depend on the Arts Council to help arrange for artists-in-the-schools stuff. I have no idea how that happens now.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          That’s good to hear. Hve you seen this pint size band in our area? They practice 2 hrs a day 3x a week. I’d rather see them performing for the schools, and the kids prob would too. Love them!

          https://youtu.be/rCNe9NP957c

    • Allie

      It’s never about the kids, the seniors, unemployed, homeless, average person, etc.
      It’s only about the photo op that Co$ can use to show their delusional legitimacy and religiosity.

      • SucculentDuck

        Shortlock Holmes better start a thorough Spring cleaning of Golden Era Productions stat ‘cuz w/ photo ops like these… oh boy… they certainly speak for themselves, don’t they? At this rate, Tony’s prediction of the Co$ foot-bullet-backlash will be just about all they need to convince anyone that might still be on the fence that this is definitely not the happening place to be.

    • Mockingbird

      Since that didn’t pack the house someone likely is going to the RPF.

      How do they even have anybody left with all the people who leave or go on the RPF ?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Tony: “But Scientology will continue to rip families apart and exploit child
    labor as long as the majority think it’s not worth caring about”. At this point, I’d have to agree because as of this year, the number of families, not individuals, but families, is 1,000 or less globally, most concentrated in California and Florida.

    There are millions of families ripped apart, their are millions of children exploited in every way, not just labor, and none of them have anything to do with scientology. At this point, the numbers are just too small when compared to the millions that general public Do care about. I already decided I had to make peace with that as a fact for 2016 and beyond. Until here is major funding for mental health treatment as well as research, I don’t see much changing from here on out.

    And while it’s also true that at most, scientology only held 100,000 or so captive at any one time, I am grateful for all the efforts and talents put towards exposing cults and shining a lot on the problem of all coercive type groups in our midst in the past few years. Personally I see any all activities, lawsuits, books, stories coming out now as putting the lid on the coffin and last rite ceremonies. This is the end stage of the Reckoning. Scientology in it’s present form is nothing more than a bunch of well dressed cronies gambling their kids’ college fund down on the Las Vegas strip, rolling the dice for just one more chance at that jackpot of eternal life.

    http://i.imgur.com/RIjBTEZ.jpg?1

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      Very good points and things to keep in mind, especially considering their scope of influence in the bigger picture. Another reason it’s so important (& that I personally hope DM isn’t able to just quietly fade away into oblivion) is that, like any crime or scheme that hits major media, there seem to be those inspired to copycat and try their own hand at it. My hope is that the loud vanguard, if you will, deters some of the potential copycats that see the glaring mistakes CO$ & DM made and try to “do it better” seeing how long this mess has been allowed to continue. That’s when I don’t mind being considered “fringe lunatics”… Take advantage of people, tear apart families, brainwash, hypnotize and steal countless life savings and in happy to get REAL loud and go fringe lunatic on your arse!!!

  • flyonthewall

    When I read about public apathy re Scientology and the “what’s the fuss” mentality, I try to remember the Leninist model of revolution. That it is a small dedicated group of people or vanguard that will lead and guide the revolution and enact change. This model has proven correct in most cases. With very few exceptions and contrary to traditional historical narrative, it is not the masses who spontaneously rise up and demand change but a vanguard who leads and works for change.

    What I’m trying to say is, we cannot be disheartened if the public majority are apathetic, the masses are always apathetic. As long as there is a vanguard exposing the cult and working for change, it will eventually win.

    • Jimmy3

      But who will guard the vanguard’s van?

      • flyonthewall

        no need, it’s pretty secure…DOWN BY THE RIVER!!

        • flyonthewall

          that was a Chris Farley Motivational Speaker reference btw

          • beauty for ashes
            • flyonthewall

              that is a classic skit. Spade and Applegate look genuinely shocked when he falls through the table, I don’t think it was planned.

            • Susan B.

              awesome

        • SucculentDuck

          i hope you didn’t park it under the Bridge to Total Freedom, that’s a very sketchy area full of Clears, OTs, Rogues, & Lizzies

          • flyonthewall

            I hate those Lizzies. Warriors for life son.

            • SucculentDuck

              respect. i just realized Miscavige is Cyrus.

    • Juicer77

      Agitate, agitate, agitate. -Frederick Douglass

      • flyonthewall

      • Sherbet

        And then run through the rinse cycle and spin dry.

        • Juicer77

          WHEEEEEEEEEEEEE

    • $cnMonkeyNut$

      We are the First Soldiers of The Revolution–Arise and Onwards, Comrades!

      • flyonthewall

        is it just me or do you feel a round of The Internationale is in order right now?

        • $cnMonkeyNut$

          Always Comrade Fly–The Internationale is appropriate at any time when our revolutionary fervour overfloweth 🙂

    • MM

      “That it is a small dedicated group of people or vanguard that will lead and guide the revolution and enact change.”
      “the masses are always apathetic. As long as there is a vanguard […] working for change, it will eventually win”

      fly, do you think Hubbard may have been aware of Lenin’s model of revolution?

      I’m not sure what to make of it yet, but when I look at the quoted sentences and substitute ‘apathetic masses’ with something like ‘prison planet’, and ‘revolution’ with ‘planetary clearing’, then it’s almost as if I’m reading Scn’s description / definition of the Sea Org.

      (edit ‘was’ -> ‘may have been’)

      • flyonthewall

        There is one policy letter I know of (HCO Info letter 28 Feb 1969, linked below) that explicitly states that Sci must do as the Soviet Union does and attack first in order to put the Western powers on the defensive. In this letter he also talks about the importance of a “cause” to insurgent forces in the developing world fighting the West.

        So yes, I do think that Hubbard took elements of revolutionary theory and cynically incorporated them into his own paramilitary force, the Sea Org. IMO he did this to better manipulate and control his followers so as to gain power and money, not in an earnest attempt at revolution or “planetary clearing”.

        http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/3061

        • MM

          “HCO Info letter 28 Feb 1969, linked below”

          Thanks for the link, hadn’t seen this document before. Are we sure though that the author of this letter is supposed to be a ‘writer’? What a convoluted, logically faulty, contradictory and ass-backwards mess.

          From the fact that what he calls “Russia” didn’t wage war on foreign countries it somehow ‘follows’ that if the U.S. Government doesn’t stop “attacking writers, religions, peaceful social groups” (read: Hubbard and Scn), then it’s the “end of the free world and the probable end of everything we know of civilization”. *smh*

      • SucculentDuck

        i think you are correct. and L Ro Hubba absolutely intended that. to a point. however, using currrent $cn math and statistics of “millions of members” or whatever malarkey they use to justify their own up-stats, they are placing themselves in the majority. which makes us the minority of dedicated revolutionaries. they can’t have it both ways. you’d think the Master Postulator would’ve had a cognition of that, but nope. real, modern, technology. how does it work? (facetious and rhetorical)

        • Robert Eckert

          “which makes us the minority of dedicated revolutionaries” The time-honored way to deal with this is simply to name ourselves the “Bolshevik” (majority) side, and our enemies the “Menshevik” (minority) side, and now we are the majority by definition, as they themselves will verify whenever they word-clear.

          • flyonthewall

            ….

          • Sarah James

            🙂

          • SucculentDuck

            literal analogies sure get tricky, quickly, don’t they? the terminology only works if we put ourselves in the position of followers of Lenin, and Lenin in this equation would be LRH. word clearing out of context is confusing.

          • villagedianne

            I’d rather be a Menshevik. It sounds like the word Mensch which in Yiddish means a fine, upstanding person. In other words, an SP.

          • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA
  • ze moo

    Indeed, what’s the fuss? What’s a few rapes, financial chicanery that even Enron wouldn’t do and more dirty tricks that even Tricky Dick wouldn’t stoop to.

    Why all religions believe in goofy things, why single out the CO$?

    Because while many religions do do the things I mentioned in my first sentence, they don’t do it as a matter of policy. Ok, the financial chicanery does happen in the world of mega churches and TV evangelists as matter of policy, but they are usually the exception. When caught, their flocks dry and run away. Usually.

    The ‘What’s the fuss’ press, on the other hand are just enablers. Enablers who have been bought off or safe pointed into preaching the clam line. The CO$ is different. They do all those crimes as a matter of policy. And anyone blind to that needs another job. Journalists, you ain’t.

    The formerly great televangelist, Ernest Angley, has a 747. What does Miscavage have? He has any plane that John Travolta or Tom Cruise can ‘loan’ him at any time of day. Davy is just more careful about his inurement seeing the light of day.

    • chukicita

      You nailed it on the policy part. It’s *written* policy. KSW.

      • flyonthewall

        Bingo. Child molestation is not written into Catholic church policy. It’s a twisted byproduct of many church policies and structure. Fair Game and disconnection are not twisted byproducts of Sci policy and structure, they ARE official policy. Big difference.

        eta – edited for grammatical accuracy

    • Tracy Schmitz

      or as the “cough cough” noted religious scholar reza aslan “all religions in the end seek to come to the same conclusions and place” (paraphrasing here) yeah, how accurate and true! NOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

      • ze moo

        During the 1950’s Joe McCarthy era, those how ignored or downplayed the ‘red menace’ were called ‘fellow travelers’ our ‘useful fools’ for their supposed ability to divert attention away from the ‘red menace’.

        The ‘what’s the fuss’ folks are in no way like the J Edgar’s imaginary fools, but media are often used to sell a point of view. Safe pointing or straight out bribe or just someone who never has a axe to grind?

    • Tracy Schmitz

      and the public are enablers who STILL STILL go to see TC and JT (that is when he makes a movie that goes to theatres nowadays) movies because “hey, i want to be entertained, and it’s all about what i want, little ole me, this scientology thing hasn’t done anything bad to me or anyone i personally know, so what do i care about it? what do i care about others!” tc and jt seem like very nice guys, so they couldn’t POSSIBLY know what is really going and could not POSSIBLY themselves be bad guys!…

  • JanInThePan

    To be honest, I wasn’t sure they even did assemblies anymore. I’m guessing that most of the kids are a little too tech (genuine technology) savvy to even want to see such a thing.

    • SucculentDuck

      agreed. this half-ass (or is it full-ass) dog & pony show might have (barely) flown with kids 40 years ago but… seriously? do they think THIS is what kids are into? it’s really too bad (for Co$) that they can’t alter “tech” to the Internet Age.

      • Sejanus

        In $cientology it is still 1952…shhhh.

      • JanInThePan

        If it’s remembered at all it’ll be probably be thought of as ‘the weirdest day/pep rally/school assembly ever.’ It’s one thing to be out of touch with what the young’uns are doing these days, it’s entirely another to be on a different planet.

  • nottrue

    Scientology ” What’s the Fuss ” Read a book will ya……

    • Mockingbird

      I can recommend several.

    • Nat-leficent

      Who said “what’s the fuss?”

      • $cnMonkeyNut$

        Jerk-wad, opinionated, pointless waste of space, Mike Calta–a Clearwater Morning Drive-time dj who gave Co$ the soft soap in an interview with Pat Carney and someone else (Jennifer from Germany, I think–she barely said a word). That was one of the phrases he used… “…what’s the fuss… all religions have kooky beliefs…” or words to that effect. Odious excuse for a human being :/ETA: Chukicita made and posted extensive notes waaaaaay downthread (about 7/8 hours ago).

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Calta’s an obnoxious local down here. blech – this is all Pat could scrounge up I guess for her stats. Pitiful

        • Tracy Schmitz

          so i’m guessing this waste of space moron mike calta did NOT allow call in listeners then?! and to think he actually said what he said IN CLEARWATER OF ALL PLACES!!!!!….
          what’s next? defending nazism at a concentration camp!?!

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            He did permit callers-in, but they were thoroughly vetted for entheta by Mike “Isn’t the sound of my, Mike Calta’s, voice wonderful” Calta, so it was all a bit lightweight, they did have a caller who said he worked for a city authority (don’t think he said which) when LM was being held against her will, but he got brushed off.

        • aquaclara

          It’s well worth reading her comments; she did a live blog of the show this morning. Try sorting comments to oldest to find….

          • $cnMonkeyNut$

            Thank you, Aquaclara–Monkey knows the notes of Chukicita are good 🙂 (was live-streaming the Chief Bonehead at The Bone and listening to the objectionable Calta’s interview… hence the vituperative dismissiveness of him –_– )

        • Nat-leficent

          TY

  • OMG Random midwesterners are threatening Scientology. Those poor persecuted people

  • Science Doc

    I think it all comes down to one meme. F5

  • TMZ and Laist reposted LA Times article on Barkanov. Nothing new. Some interesting comments.

  • Mockingbird

    Good day Bunkeroos. I would be curious about if Flag truly has declined down to a level of less activity.

    If it is no longer profitable and the majority of service Orgs aren’t either that is significant.

    It could signal serious changes in how Scientology operates going forward.

    I don’t think Miscavige will be satisfied losing money, particularly given his tremendous legal and espionage expenses he quite likely is seriously motivated to maintain.

    I think he may be paranoid and wish to avoid prison.

    I hope we can get a good idea of the current financial situation and number of members in Scientology, as well as their degree of participation.

    • BabySmurfette

      We should have a pool of date/month/year when we get the first reports he’s disappeared.

      DM blowing is imminent 😉 proceed…

      • Mockingbird

        It would be a good story, but I honestly don’t know what angles he will play. He has been running this con a long time and may have some cards up his sleeve yet.

    • Kestrel

      I just can’t see Scientology quietly going into that dark night. As this version of the long con fades I have to believe they have a new long con in the works, or at least a new version of the old one. I, too, would like to see what their real current financial situation is.

      • Mockingbird

        That coupled with the mind and schemes of Miscavige can go in many directions.

  • Science Doc

    O/T. Drove past Narconon Warner Springs/Sunshine Summit. Weather has been pretty foul out there, cold and rainy by the reputed Southern California standards that are less commonly met at 3000 ft. than sea level. An hour in the sauna might actually do an old body some good on a day like this. Vitamin bomb not so much. Anyhow, it’s still flying its Narconon freak flag.

  • Sherbet

    This being the end of the Christmas season, I’ve hung up my antlers, bow, and Rudolph nose until next year.

    • flyonthewall

      it was a fun ride while it lasted

      • Sherbet

        I notice you were defrocked of your Santa outfit a couple of days ago, fly.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      But where are you gonna hang the exercise outfit now? And the party hats?

      • Sherbet

        Party hats are en route to Cleveland. Exercise? Please define.

    • Cedilla

      Rudolph.
      Yeah.
      Husband PTA- “The Master”
      Of course her mom Minnie Riperton.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kE0pwJ5PMDg

      • Sherbet

        I didn’t know Maya is married to PTA. I guess I’ve been living under a rock. Minnie Riperton, yes, that I knew.

        • Susan B.

          I didn’t know Minnie is Maya’s mother. I’m definitely living under a rock b/c I don’t have TV at all. I only have Netflix on my laptop. Maya is awesome and it’s so sad her mother died so young, only 31. She had breast cancer. I used to love that song when I’d listen to the Casey Kasem Top 40 every Sunday night on my radio in bed when I was a kid. How did she hit that high note???

          Under a rock but see how quickly I come up with info from the “innernets” as W used to say?

          • Sherbet

            That high note is definitely a sinus-clearer. Yes, very sad; way too young for Minnie Riperton to pass away. I always loved Maya on SNL, but I think she keeps her screen appearances scarce because she has four young children.

    • Robert Eckert

      Yeah, I guess it’s time.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Ok, people. This may seem OT but of course it never really is. I just finally listened to Jeffrey Augustine’s interview with Mike Rinder and am struck by his comment that the IRS is paying attention.

    I think we need to make enough noise that Congress pays attention and calls for hearings.

    Oversight committees –

    in the House it is the House Oversight Committee, Subcommittee on Government Operations. https://oversight.house.gov/subcommittee/government-operations/ – please see if your rep is on there. I just filed an anonymous whistle blowing complaint with them at https://oversight.house.gov/whistle/ – it is very easy to do.

    In the Senate it is Senate Committee on Finance: Subcommittee on Taxation and IRS Oversight https://www.govtrack.us/congress/committees/SSFI/11, Ron Wyden is a member, and he has raised questions about scientology in the past so it is worth approaching him. Check and see if your own Senator is a member also.

    • Enturbulated Masterbator

      Thank you for the links. I have just now contacted the Subcom on IRS. Let’s just say that as a corporate numbers person I’m highly interested in tax code violations such as those practiced by $cientology.

  • One thing that occurs with Scientology Inc is that they CONTINUE to make enemies.
    A statistic that is straight up and vertical.
    Scientology Inc by outrageous and diabolical conduct turns observers and never-ins into lifetime
    warriors because they are such villains.
    These are additional audiences to those they personally harmed into becoming active combatants.
    The other factor is that they continue to LIE and in the internet age of transparency the web mocks and laughs at such incredulous fiction.
    Scientology Inc lives in a wordsmith propaganda alternate reality.

    My question is, it this simply fictional delusion?

    Or do they *WILFULLY* and *Knowingly* LIE to prop up grandeur of Scientology Inc results.

    • flyonthewall

      “they” is too broad. Most likely a few at the top know they are lies and manufacture them and the majority on the bottom believe them or at least do not question them

      • That’s probably what Karen meant.

        • flyonthewall

          Yes, I’m the one who couldn’t wait to correct the teacher in class 🙂

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        The majority at the bottom, though, have lost 90% of their friends, maybe family included in that group. It’s kind of hard to not notice stuff like that. As far as the worst of the fraud and crimes, most don’t find out anything going on until they are wayyy out.

    • I think it was Mike Rinder who said that David Miscavige is intelligent sociopath or something like that.
      In another words, he is crazy but not stupid. At this point, it’s pretty obvious to me that he is a lying asshole and manipulator. And perhaps was so for most of his life. Thanks to the house LRH built.

    • salin

      My impression is they do both.

    • Susan black

      Dm and some of those close to him continue to lie cuz it’s part of their con. I think the others fall somewhere on a continuum between true believers and those who suspect it’s all a con but keep their mouths shut.

  • Dave Reams

    If the news reports are accurate, this Barkanov moron behaved badly and illegally and I hope he gets a fair trial and fair punishment if guilty.

    I wish that the leaders of Scientology could also get fair trials and fair punishments for the numerous criminal and civil violations they have perpetrated over many decades!

  • ClearwaterNative

    Sorry if this has already been addressed, but how was this theater troupe allowed to perform the works of L. Ron Hubbard in a public Middle School (assuming it was a Public School)? And please tell me it wasn’t Meadowlawn Middle School (my alma mater).

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Tyrone Middle School, St petersburg, FL And they were performing some of his cowboy fiction works from Golden Age fiction books.

      • Susan B.

        If you magnify the photo so you can see the children many of their faces and postures seem to indicate they weren’t paying much attention to the troupe. Now who’s going to break the news about the nefarious practices of the CO$ esp when it comes to children to the principal and the parents’ organization assuming there is one?

        • Susan B.

          The Principal’s name is Ms. Robin Mobley.

          School website: http://www.pcsb.org/Page/2618

          Here is the school’s contact info:

          6421 22nd Ave. N | St. Petersburg, FL 33710-4001

          Phone: (727) 893-1819
          Fax: (727) 893-1946

          GROENINKJ@pcsb.org

          • ClearwaterNative

            Thank You!

          • aquaclara

            Thanks for posting, Susan. Time to send letters, people. Imagine if this happened at your kid’s school….

            Horrifying.

        • JanInThePan

          My guess is that if any of them were on their phones, they might have found out the nefariousness of the group in front of them..

  • Acherontia

    Are they using Comic Sans for their Christmas Village welcome sign? Amateurs.

    • SucculentDuck

      papyrus probably looked too serious

      • Acherontia

        Shoulda used Curlz.

        • SucculentDuck

          festive! how do you feel about wingdings for the big valentine’s day social?

          • Acherontia

            Nah, I prefer Zapfino for pretending to be fancy and romantic.

  • Jenny Daniels

    For all the enslaved in the SO, this is Human Trafficking Awareness Month!
    Get out, get help and INFORM!

  • sashiebgood

    if any school my child attended booked a scientology group to perform for the students, I would kick up such a shit storm, they’d never think of doing anything like that ever again. That said, the bubble must be steel plated on that “troupe”. if I had to perform that tripe – and I don’t even know what the play is, but I’m assuming it’s tripe – to teenagers on a regular basis, I really think that I would welcome cleaning dumpsters with a toothbrush. I’m thinking that even if any of those kids had even a passing interest in scientology to start with, they sure as hell don’t now.

    • Sherbet

      God forbid I should ever defend scientology, but the skit was based on lrh’s fiction, specifically, some Western story. So the school kids weren’t being subjected to cos rhetoric.

      • sashiebgood

        well, that’s good I guess, but I still suspect a hidden agenda. they don’t say at the end “why don’t y’all come on down to visit us in Clearwater, pardners?” or anything like that? I’m not trying to be snotty, I am truly asking…

        • Sid

          The hidden agenda is in getting Hubbard’s name out there and supposedly well thought of will result in these kids being more likely to accept Scientology when they run into it later.

        • Sherbet

          I don’t think we’ll ever know the answer to your specific question. In fact, maybe they handed out literature when they were finished. I wouldn’t put it past them! The Way to Happiness, anyone? But all we know is the troupe was performing the Western story.

          • OOkpik

            Legoland would be pleased.

  • a PR puff piece from 2002, read it for the lulz:

    The Man Behind Scientology

    “Despite Miscavige’s high place in Scientology, his associates say he doesn’t receive many more perks than a nice office, a fantastic wardrobe and proximity to Scientology’s stable of celebrity parishioners, including his friends Tom Cruise and John Travolta.

    Beyond the intense exterior, Miscavige can deal a humorous one-liner. Friends say he is given to sending unexpected notes and gifts.

    He drives a Honda around Los Angeles and lives in staff quarters with his wife, Michelle, who is one of his paid assistants. Reports to the IRS in the early 1990s put his salary in the $60,000 range, and Rathbun says it’s $50,000 now.”

    http://www.religionnewsblog.com/19045/the-man-behind-scientology

    edit: TIL – Hubbard’s nickname for Miscavige was “Misc” (pronounced Misk).

    • Rasha

      “‘Dave’, as his buddies call him, is known to joke with random strangers while waiting in line at the local hot dog truck, and will often stop to help change a flat tire if he sees someone in need while driving his ’97 Honda Accord through LA. Old ladies know they can count on him to escort them across the street, laying down his denim jacket across puddles for them. Other days, he’s roller skating along, handing out cotton candy to little children, bringing…. uh… hmmm. ugh-hold on… I gott–BBLLAARRGGHHHHGGHHH!!!!! (spit)…… holy crap, I couldn’t finis–ggghhhhBLLAARRGGGHHHHHH (cough cough)… (spit)……. Just… just go. Go away….”

      • Kim O’Brien

        psst…how did the Benicio Del Torro movie go at El Yunque ? Did you suffer from the same disease I did ? ” clothes falling off cuz of his voice disease ” ..?? LOL

        • Rasha

          Well… it was really warm and humid anyway, so…ummm……

          eta…. it was all good….

    • The Man Behind Scientology October 25, 1998, Thomas C. Tobin, St. Petersburg Times

  • Observer

    From last week:

    • You take artsy pix, and I post idiot squirrel brothers! 😀

      • Observer

        Your pics of the blood moon eclipse were amazing

        • Thanks!! Yeah, I’ll go take moon pix if it’s not too cold out! 🙂 I swear some time I’m going out with the tripod!! I’d like to a pix of me out with the tripod, but I’d um, need another camera—oh wait! When I do go out with the tripod—eventually—I can take a pix of that with my tablet! 😀

          • Missionary Kid

            If you have gloves on, you can steady the camera or your hand against a building or structure, and it will almost be as steady as a tripod.

            • I can’t wear gloves and use my camera 🙁 And when I take moon shots I’m usually in the middle of the street. I have a tripod that goes about 3′ or a little higher, I just never screw the camera on and haul it out, set it up; cuz I see the moon and go straight for the door, ya know?

            • Missionary Kid

              The only reason I talked about a glove was so that you could steady your hand against something, and I didn’t want to have you get your hand frozen to an object.

            • I never knew you could get your hand frozen to an object, unless of course you kept there awhile and it was snowing/sleeting. Hmmmm……now I’m curious 🙂

            • Missionary Kid

              I was just thinking if you happened to have some moisture on your hands – being overly careful.

              The basic idea of steadying the camera works very well.

    • Sid

      Beautiful shot.

  • I filled the bird feeders today, I toss in extra seed in plant hangers on really cold days and I put out special treats for the idiot squirrel brothers. Well one of them was extra greedy today and I look out the window and see him clinging to the suet cake holder nom-ing away. He stayed there until the woodpecker buzzed him. What a dork, this photo just makes me laugh.

    http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/misstia/5549708/992045/992045_800.jpg

    • salin

      We finally gave up with the bird feeders – between the acrobatic squirrels and the tall deer – little was going to the birds. But always had to begrudgingly appreciate the persistence of the squirrels.

      • Well there’s no deer around here; but I’d find something for them to eat if they were!! 🙂 This brother was being a greedy grub today!! The past 2 nights it’s gotten really cold so they’ve gotten sandwiches (I’m horrible I know). It wasn’t that cold today nor tonight, but I put out treats for them and I know they got them.

        • salin

          That’s beautiful.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Tenacious D Squirrel…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Freezing cold and rainy here, but the birds were waiting this morning. The other day a classic, classic squirrel showed up on the patio. Haven’t seen one before or since. And today we were rewarded with a particularly graceful hummingbird– surprising in all the rain we’ve been having.

    • Alice Graves

      SO sweet.

  • aquaclara

    Scientology is in trouble again for the cyanide dumping at the Flag laundry. Here’s another legal notice posted today. I called the number listed in December, and they told me Scientology is incurring significant fines for their violations. The city is closely monitoring them, and said they have issued an enforcement order.

    Here we go:

    Placed on 1/6/2016

    Web ID 239816

    PUBLIC NOTICE
    NOTICE OF VIOLATION: In accordance with the requirements of
    Rule 62-625.500 (2)(b) 8, Florida Administrative Code, notice is hereby given that Church of Scientology, Central Laundry at 2000 Calumet St., Clearwater, FL 33765 was in Significant Non-Compliance (SNC) of Section 32.219 of the Clearwater Code for
    Technical Review Criteria (TRC)
    violation in their sanitary sewer wastewater discharge for Total Cyanide during the period of 4/1/2015 9/30/2015, in which TRC was exceeded in 6 of 12 samples (50% of all the measurements).
    Any questions relating to this notice should be directed to the City of
    Clearwater, Public Utilities
    Department, Water Pollution Control Division (727) 462-6660 ext. 227.

    1/6/16 239816

    • If not IRS, may be Water Pollution Control Division. Al Capone will laugh in his grave.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        LOL – or…
        Failure to comp the whales
        Failure to recycle scotch glass bottles
        Failure to tip the Lobb’s shoe shine boy
        Failure to pay the scuba diving shop
        Failure to remember Lou’s birthday

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Yea. That last one. Lou never forgets. She’s got a long memory and turning state’s evidence is going to sting like a motherf**ker.

    • Well now… I believe that they were previously running 1 in 3 samples, so they seem to have a problem.

      • aquaclara

        I found a search archive, but it will only let me go back one month. Here are three notices published in that time. Unbelievable.

        Tampa Bay Times
        Jan. 6, 2016
        Miscellaneous Notices

        PUBLIC NOTICE
        NOTICE OF VIOLATION: In accordance with the requirements of
        Rule 62-625.500 (2)(b) 8, Florida Administrative Code, notice is hereby given that Church of Scientology, Central Laundry at 2000 Calumet St., Clearwater, FL 33765 was in Significant Non-Compliance (SNC) of Section 32.219 of the Clearwater Code for
        Technical Review Criteria (TRC)
        violation in their sanitary sewer wastewater discharge for Total Cyanide during the period of 4/1/2015 9/30/2015, in which TRC was exceeded in 6 of 12 samples (50% of all the measurements).
        Any questions relating to this notice should be directed to the City of
        Clearwater, Public Utilities
        Department, Water Pollution Control Division (727) 462-6660 ext. 227.

        1/6/16 239816 (239816) 01/06, 01/06/2016

        Tampa Bay Times
        Dec. 23, 2015
        Miscellaneous Notices

        PUBLIC NOTICE
        NOTICE OF VIOLATION: In accordance with the requirements of Rule
        62-625.500 (2)(b) 8, Florida Administrative Code, notice is hereby given that Church of Scientology, Central Laundry at 2000 Calumet St., Clearwater, FL 33765 was in Significant
        Non-Compliance (SNC) of Section 32.219 of the Clearwater Code for
        Technical Review Criteria (TRC)
        violation in their sanitary sewer
        wastewater discharge for Total
        Cyanide during the period of
        1/1/2015 6/30/2015, in which TRC was exceeded in 4 of 8 samples (50% of all measurements).
        Any questions relating to this notice should be directed to the City of
        Clearwater, Public Utilities
        Department, Water Pollution Control Division (727) 462-6660 ext. 227.

        12/23/15 235272 (235272) 12/23, 12/23/2015

        Tampa Bay Times
        Dec. 20, 2015
        Miscellaneous Notices

        PUBLIC NOTICE
        NOTICE OF VIOLATION: In accordance with the requirements of
        Rule 62-625.500 (2)(b) 8, Florida Administrative Code, notice is hereby given that Church of Scientology, Central Laundry at 2000 Calumet St., Clearwater, FL 33765 was in Significant Non-Compliance (SNC) of Section 32.219 of the Clearwater Code for
        Technical Review Criteria (TRC) violation in their sanitary sewer wastewater discharge for Total Cyanide during the period of 10/1/2014 3/31/2015, in which TRC was exceeded in 1 of 3
        samples (33% of all the measurements).
        Any questions relating to this notice should be directed to the
        City of Clearwater, Public Utilities
        Department, Water Pollution Control Division (727) 462-6660 ext. 227.

        12/20/15 234536 (234536) 12/20, 12/20/2015

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Thanks for doing this. It’s incredible, isn’t it? A multibillion outfit that is known for not paying their bills and fees or following codes or rules.

          You want to know how this usually happens? In general, every dollar bill gets sucked uplines so fast from every location including Flag that standard operating expenses are left in the dust more often than met. Then there’s the problem which has to be escalating to a fever pitch now – people get thrown off and on posts like a children’s game of hot potato, and usually with little to no training.

          From there you have org finance policies which are just as you would expect. Newer bills go to the end of the line. Add to this what comes first in line – commissions to the regges and the other salesmen, the FSM’s. You do Not cut this out or down and never delay. Only an SP would even think of doing that.

          So little matters like this are of so little concern to the poor schmuck who’s immediate job is to handle. He or she will be too terrified, or in a coma, or sound asleep to notify his or her immediate senior who will have his or her head on a pike by morning if they find out. This is how these matters blow up into major situations. It happens all the time.

          Nuts, ain’t it?!

          • aquaclara

            Yes, it is. I believe that with the sheer number of fines, and the issuance of an enforcement order makes this less invisible now than it may have been in the beginning. I hope the poor soul who has this job decides to pursue alternative employment outside the laundry and the cult.

    • salin

      Interesting. Rules/laws don’t apply. Watch the response and keep us inform. Prediction: if fines are ignored and then enforced with stronger actions – suddenly victims of religious discrimination.

    • Libertylover

      More shady dealings by the COS. This may be coming from some industrial process like metal plating and is showing up in the laundry waste water when they wash the clothing.
      Ferrocyanides are rarely used in industrial detergent anymore , if at all, and they would have changed that right away if it were. Most likely some kind of industrial plating done on the cheap, with unskilled, unsuspecting cheap COS labor with no safety procedures.

      • aquaclara

        The person from the Public Utilities Department said it was most likely a mixing of chemicals, and that it has been going on through 2015. Also that they use an average of 10,000 gallons per day. He also gave me the measurements, but I don’t think I saved that info….thoughts?

        • Libertylover

          I used to be a Tech in this industry. Most of the water is just rinse water, this is an elevated level and any chemicals they use would immediately be suspect and looked at and eliminated. They could have had some of their parts plated in the machines. Once plant is contaminated the water can keep showing cyanide for months periodically.
          My guess is they are doing some dangerous work themselves and it shows in the waste water. Knowing how they operate, I don’t find COS having little regard for safety implausible.

          • aquaclara

            That “little regard” part is what worries me. And apparently the city, since they are on top of them for these violations. The city is treating the water to correct the problem, so it isn’t going into Old Tampa Bay.
            Would you think there might be possible OSHA issues here?

            • Libertylover

              Possibly OSHA but they are working to correct it. It seems to be an unknown source atm so it wouldn’t be considered willful polluting. I’m sure the Sewer dept will charge the COS for the treatment and it will eventually be taken care of, by COS, to avoid the costs associated with it.

            • aquaclara

              Hmmm. I want to see fines and fines and fines and fines….
              I am glad the city is on top of this.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            What sort of dangerous work? When income stays crashed, what the org will cut back on is unfrigginbelievable.

            • Libertylover

              Working with heavy metals I suspect? I’m not really that knowledgeable on the industrial processes, but I think that is mostly where Cyanide is used with plating technologies. Maybe they use it to make CD’s DVD’s?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              AFAIK, DVD’s made in LA at the distribution center. This is coming from laundry, no? There been an influx of European and Russians at Flag over last few years. Perhaps they don’t have the same restrictions as US and are implementing unsafe practices, materials. Budgets have to be cut back far, so no telling what lame brain, desperate idea was thought up. Or maybe aging equpment breaking down?

        • Fink Jonas

          “10,000 gallons per day” holly crap, fine them, fine them good.

      • OOkpik

        It’s appalling that the business, any business, isn’t shut down until the problem is properly fixed. The main concern should be about environmental safety.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Some city, county, or state agency should be in there inspecting to find out what is going on.

    • Surprised the EPA isn’t on their ass about that!!!

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Connect the dots:

      Cyanide in various forms is used in industrial processes. Hard to believe they would still be using a laundry product that contained it. Unless they bought truckloads of it back in the ’70s and still haven’t used it up because they are so frugal.

      So, I do know that potassium ferrocyanide is used in photographic processes to “bleach” silver films in lithographic work or old color film processes. Not likely they are doing that.

      Archival quality DVDs for data recording and long term archiving sometimes have gold film as the recording layer of the disc.

      Another thing I know is that there is a process for extracting gold from low grade ore, called the leach process. It is terribly ecologically destructive and involves putting down acres of plastic sheeting, making huge mounds of low grade gold mine ore, and installing sprinklers that spray a constant source of ferro (maybe ferri) cyanide solution on the mound of crushed rock. The solution leaches through the piled ore and actually dissolves the gold chemically on it’s way through and is collected into a sump where it is pumped out to electroplating equipment. The electroplating turns the gold in solution back into a gold metal solid on the surface of electrodes, where it is stripped off, melted down and refined.

      I make a (tongue in cheek) conjecture that some part of this comes from one of David “Let Him Die” Miscavige’s clandestine projects of conversion of illegally acquired precious metals. Maybe gold removed from heritage sites during his scuba diving expeditions. Or he is converting old gold “donated” by desperate parishioners into untraceable metal. If there is an uptick in tungsten buying by distantly related Scientology entities, maybe he is sending gold plated tungsten bricks to the whales, and they don’t know how close tungsten is to gold in specific gravity. They think they are solid. Or maybe they are paying the vig on his debt to the mafia. Won’t they be surprised!

      Or they have a stock of teeth from dying Scientologists that need to be turned into cash now now now now now.

      • aquaclara

        I love how your mind thinks of things that only this cult could do. And you’ve made me think of some additional questions to ask the Public Utilities people. What knds of questions do you have for them? I’d be happy to call them again….

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          First: I’d get some spotters out on the street as soon as you read this. If something is going on you will see sudden activity and unmarked trucks. It could be important to document.

          Then call public utilities.

          I’d point out that Scientology is known for doing things in places that are not zoned for it. That they sometimes do industrial processes such as painting without benefit of air handling equipment and Personal Protective Equipment that is required because they can get away with it. It could even be a small superfund site.

          They could be doing jewelry like trophies and OT bracelets in some corner of the laundry complex and the Sea Org Members don’t know or don’t care about the industrial waste generated. Using toxic chemicals in unvented facilities.

          So, I would ask the Public Utilities people to immediately do very complete expanded analysis of the wastewater to see what else is being dumped. That might give a profile of what they are hiding. Even if they shut it down and flush, the trace will still be there for weeks.

          Do air quality analysis near the facilities, look for hydrocarbons and volatiles and toxic dusts. Closely inspect all dumping and what the garbage consists of.

          I’m just guessing, but if these tests are done, they will raid the place to shut down some kind of illegal manufacturing and dumping.

          Go!

          • aquaclara

            Thank you, Michael. Nothing like the voice of experience when it comes to our friends.

            And, oh yes. Wow.

  • ShoopZ

    CORNY the COB. Idea stolen outright from stillgrace2 down thread. Or is it upthread? (refresh)

    • Observer

      It’s…beautiful

      • ShoopZ

        Sometimes the BEST ideas are the STOLEN ideas!

      • Sherbet

        2001?

    • Lucille Austero

      Literally laughing so hard I need to sit down!

    • Missionary Kid

      It’s the $cientology equivalent of Marge Simpson.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      He posts! He schoops! He scooooooooooores!

    • outraged

      CONEY the COB. Stolen also from….everyone? (refresh)

      • JanInThePan

        He comes from France!

    • ShoopZ

      Cobby Cornhead?

  • FOTF2012

    Ideal Org delusion: Build it and they will come.

    Ideal Org reality: No one is coming.

  • ShoopZ

    (refresh)

  • ithilien

    ,”and in one of the calls a Scientology receptionist had kept the man on the line for three hours. ”

    She was trying to get his credit card number

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

      He just wouodn’t give her the 3-digit code on the back of the card!

  • Cars

    I periodically check God’s twitter feed for a chuckle and saw this one come up.

    https://twitter.com/Tweets_By_God/status/684906701879902208

    • Sherbet

      The Gospel according to Brother Theodore and Professor Irwin Corey, as read by Norm Crosby, would still make a hell of a lot more sense than scientology.

      (Some really ancient references there.)

      • Cars

        Ha! I remember (in a past life, of course) The Merv Griffin Show. I loved Norm Crosby.

        • Sherbet

          You went whole track to remember those comics. Thank you, Cars.

          • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

            The Professor is in his 9th decade, and still active, I believe.

            • Sherbet

              You’re right. He’s 101!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Whatever happened to Brother Theodore?

        • Sherbet

          He died in his 90s.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            He was one of David Letterman’s finds.

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_KrhFBUTe4

            • Sherbet

              I think that was during his comeback years. He had been around years before.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yes. I had no idea.

  • Rasha

    OT:

    A still more glorious dawn awaits……
    ~Carl Sagan

    …Puerto Rico sunrise…. ^_^

    • aquaclara

      This is gorgeous.

      • Rasha

        The real thing was so much better…..

        • aquaclara

          Next you’re going to tell me it’s warm, too.

          • aquaclara

            Enjoy!

            • Rasha

              Sadly, I just returned to New England….. sigh….. it was soooooo nice……

            • Sherbet

              I got Mass. all chilled and ready for your return, Rasha. You’re welcome.

            • Rasha

              YAY!! Now I can REALLY shnuggle up to the ol’ hot water bottle! (LUV shnuggling!) Thnaks, Sherb!!! ^_^

            • Sherbet

              Hey, we have beaches here, too. L Street Brownies catch your interest?

            • aquaclara

              Welcome back to the igloo.

          • Rasha

            …ummmmmmm….. Let’s just say there wasn’t a lot of snow……

            • aquaclara

              I wondered what an article blast felt like there…..your pic says it all.
              Did I say I am so over winter already????

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Sweet vacation – no matter what you packed!

      • Rasha

        YEP!!!! Such happy!! ^_^

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Great idea to recharge your batteries first of the year.

          • Rasha

            That will be my MO from now on. Best New Year’s evar. ^_^

    • salin

      Wow. The sky can often be so beautiful, and in our daily living – we don’t look up long enough to see the beauty. You have captured a moment of beauty. Glad you got to experience it, and glad you shared it with us.

      • Rasha

        ^_^

    • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA
      • Rasha

        That it does…. ^_^

      • Qbird

        Ooo pretty Chut!

        • Bobby Tolberto AKA TDA

          Thanks. Here’s one from Sept 2014

          https://flic.kr/p/praYYa

          • Qbird

            It’s peaceful & calming, these photos.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Did you get to experience the bio-luminescence?

      • Rasha

        It was “off-season”, so limited, but the kayak trip was … interesting. Not everyone can handle a kayak like Rasha. Still, I did get to see it. Very cool. Hope to go at peak season sometime.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Did you tip over in the kayak? I’ve seen it here in Mosquito lagoon out by Kennedy Space Center too. Pretty amazing thing.

          • Sherbet

            What are you guys talking about? What luminesces?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd
            • Sherbet

              Wow. Cool!

            • Qbird

              The sea lights up at night Sherbet… especially on dark, dark nights with no moon. I was sitting on the gunnel of our boat one night, after midnight, fishin’ in 200 feet of water. It was calm, no wind, a gentle ocean night. I get a bite & hook a Mutton Snapper, not big, 5 pounds maybe and as I’m bringing it up, I’m looking into the water… it’s like it’s alive with shiny glowing green specks… dancing about really. I’m reeling this fish in so fast that at about 30 feet from the surface, I “see it” coming up – it looks kinda like a comet, a head with a tracer tail flowing off of it. And right behind it is a giant comet! Another BIG ball with a huge tail.
              Oh it was a shark all right chasing the fish, hot on it. I reeled harder & pulled as fast as I could… my little mutton broke the surface & shot out of the water like about 3 feet & I swung it into the boat. And that dang shark popped out too right behind it! Cleared the water. I screamed. Mr. Q came running to the back deck. It splashed back down and just lay there, still for a moment. Really weird. I screamed even louder and was stomping my feets like a scared kid. Mr. Q said it looked like I was running in place, going nowhere. It then shuddered, shook its whole body and disappeared into the deep. Bioluminescent story for you. ha!

            • OOkpik

              What an amazing and terrifying experience. Thanks for sharing.
              I have seen the open ocean churning with that blue-green glow everywhere. Beautiful, haunting, other-worldly, magical. The wonder of it has remained with me for decades.

            • Sherbet

              What a story, Qbird! And what a life you lead! The ocean sounds beautiful and scary at the same time.

  • Tomorrow is the first Thursday of 2016.

    • Rasha

      Ha! I had a phone call from LA today, but it turned out to be one of those auto-dial sales things. Didn’t answer it, just blocked the number and looked it up on 800notes dot com. IT did get me thinking how they must be going nuts reviving old, old contact lists…. “We’re not desperate! We’re expanding, so we need to contact EVERYONE who ever stepped into an org!”

      tick, tock, Half past two is a-creepin’……

      • Cosmo Pidgeon

        Oh my God yes. Got a call New Years Eve. Haven’t set foot in an Org since around 1989? or so….Damn!

        • Doc M

          When they call block the number or you can ask them to call you back in 5 minutes on your new number and then give them the number of the F.B.I.

        • Rasha

          Unsolicited calls from LA means Scientology to me. And yeah, having only gone in to an Org once around the same time as you, and gotten so many calls and mailings since… Damn!

    • Nat-leficent
    • edge

      I wonder if the 2pm Thursday deadlines after major Scientology events are more stressful than others for staff since all Sci events are basically glorified sales conventions. After Davey unveils yet another re-re-re-release I’m betting the pressure to sell books and cds and intensives is even crazier than it already is.

  • Doc M

    This is Pacinos speech to Spacey in “Glengarry Glen Ross”.
    Its very raw with lots of profanity, but it’s kind of timely. Just imagine if Pacino is talking to DM.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rW7WlT6OJxE

  • Here’s a hard core example of fictional delusion or knowingly LYING
    Veteran Scientologist Larry Jaffe wants to take GLORY of Playboy
    no longer doing full nudes.
    He says its because he sent a WAY to Happiness leather bound to
    Hugh Hefner 9 years ago !
    Mike Rinder explains ~~
    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/scientology-delusions/

    • Rasha

      (facepalm) They…. I just……. (facepalm)

    • Sherbet

      DM must be really sorry he ever made an enemy of Mike Rinder, who’s become a human megaphone announcing the church’s idiocies. If Miscavige had only been nicer, maybe Rinder would have just gone away quietly…

    • Katherine Meyrick

      That’s really, REALLY funny.

    • Larry The OT should have focused his theta powers on eliminating child porn first.

      • Sherbet

        Maybe he did. But it will take 9 years for the results. Be patient.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          Only a clam could string together the words “Hugh Hefner”, “Leatherbound” and “Way to Happiness” and arrive back at LRH.

          • Sherbet

            Yeah, what a waste of titillating ideas. Poor, dumb Larry.

        • Pretty sure Feds will do it before OTs will.

    • JanInThePan

      Wow.. *facepan*

      • Juicer77

        I see what you did there 😉 Must be the neck juice!

        • JanInThePan

          LOL yep. It’s …magically delicious.

    • Intergalactic Walrus
    • Sid

      Years ago I sent a Dianetics book to the Prime Minister of Canada, soon after which they got their own Constitution. You’re welcome Canada. Although his assistant wrote me back and told me the Prime Minister was too busy to read the damn (word added by me) book. Still, I’m pretty sure I was responsible for Canada getting its Constitution.

    • All of these claims fall under the mistake, recognised since ancient times post hoc ergo proctor hoc . One thing happened before the other, therefore the first caused the second.

      Obviously, You need a robust causal link that can be independently tested, as well. Without it, just about anything can be held to be responsible for just about anything else.

  • Robert Eckert

    OT: giant squids rarely come into shallow water, and are usually only observed after they’re dead.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=qymNsj5hEo0

  • Jenny Griffith

    So Reza was friends with Duncan and Blake, from the golden suicides. Not relevant to anything. Just interesting.

    ” Duncan wrote screeds on her blog (which she launched in 2005) about people she claimed were connected to C.I.A. plots and right-wing conspiracies: Blake’s former girlfriend Anna Gaskell (who once broke his heart), and Reza Aslan, an Islamic scholar they had been friends with. Gaskell and Aslan have both denied her allegations.”

    http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2008/01/suicides200801

    • Small world.

    • Sherbet

      Wow.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      Aslan was engaged to a Slate editor at the time, and Duncan wrote a piece or two for Slate. I assumed that was the connection. In the blog item in which Duncan mentions Aslan, she made it sound more like she knew him through someone else. I’m guessing this is also where she claims Aslan told her there was an FBI file on her, which she says she then discovered was true and…then she somehow connects that to scientology and a host of other conspiratorial topics and…yeah.

      A relevant tidbit for me, since I live in DC, is that Duncan and Blake had ties to the indie music scene here. I remember how weird it was seeing some familiar names in that article that wouldn’t have otherwise popped up in Vanity Fair.

  • Katherine Meyrick

    For anyone who thinks the Xenu story is no stranger than any other creation myth, I’d like to make a statement on that. Most creation myths are designed with artistry, with beauty, to be moving. They are thoughtfully crafted with deep care. Followers are swept up into the beauty whether they take it literally or not.

    Scientologists instead downplay theirs, hide it and deny it. This is quite singular. Why do they do that? Because the Xenu story has no beauty at all. Not even as an allegory. It so obviously reads like a pulp fiction b-movie mid-century cheeseball thing that you can’t avoid snickering. It had no thought put into it. No artistry. If Hubbard had tried to sell it as a pulp fiction novel his editor would have rejected it. Whereas other creation myths have produced immeasurable amounts of reflective artwork, Xenu can only work in South Park mode. Even when a beautiful religion goes extinct, its myths live on. Who doesn’t love Greek mythology?

    But nobody loves Xenu.

    Not even Scientologists.

    If you compare the two, you are basically saying there is no difference between the Mona Lisa and a penis scribbled on a subway bathroom wall with a sharpie. Do what you will to religion. But don’t do this to art. Don’t do this to literature. Dildo.

    • Sherbet

      Nicely put, Katherine.

    • aquaclara

      Echoing what Sherbet said… Thank you!

    • Phil McKraken

      I’m not sure I agree that other origin stories are carefully crafted, artistic, etc. Some are; some aren’t. But that’s not important. What you say about Wall of Fire being mid-century cheeseball crap is so true. And that really hits home when you read it in Hubbard’s original scrawl, and even more so when you hear the rambling tale from his own flapping lips.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DwfxuQtgGE0

      • Sherbet

        I always thought, if lrh had been, say, an electrician or an orthodontist, and he had come up with this space fantasy, it MIGHT have been more acceptable. The fact that he was a sci fi writer who invented a sci fi religion…hmmm…as Church Lady would say, “How convenient!” And how lazy of him. He didn’t have to dip too deeply into the well for his space-y ideas.

        • Phil McKraken

          I don’t know. Sure, people like to mock Hubbard as a Sci Fi writer who invented a religion, the mythology of which happens to sound a lot like the crap Sci Fi he wrote. But really, the awfulness of his stories and the nightmare reality of his cult stand on their own, and would even if he were a butcher, baker or candlestick maker.

          • Sherbet

            True. I did say it MIGHT have been more acceptable if he had been anything other than a sci fi writer.

      • Katherine Meyrick

        Most religions that are sustained for a good length of time have creation stories that generate art, have deep philosophical implications (if you know the background history of the group behind it) and are something the followers are proud to display. Take Genesis. It’s actually a counter point to the Mesopotamian myth which is very chaotic and complicated. Genesis is, in contrast, very simple and clean. It’s also inspired museum worthy paintings and sculpture. The war between the Olympians and Titans inspired art centuries after the religion went extinct. It still does today, in books and movies. That’s what I meant by crafted with care.

      • PerpetualOutflow

        Phil, what is the context for this tape? Is it available to $cieno’s at all levels, or is it only for those on the upper levels?

        • Phil McKraken

          I don’t know the exact answer to that. I understand that on OT3 you read the story in the crazy-ass author’s own hand. I don’t know by whom (if anyone), and at what level, listening to this story is permitted. It certainly would not be before reaching OT3, in any case. There are many here who can answer that though.

      • OOkpik

        What a nut-job!

    • PerpetualOutflow

      Isn’t that to be expected when you try to transmute pulp science fiction from the 50s into a “religion” for the ages? The Mona Lisa it ain’t.

    • sizzle8

      Actually the Xenu story isn’t the Scientology creation myth at all.
      Not sure why it keeps getting misconstrued as that.
      It’s supposed to be an incident in Earth’s history.
      The creation of the universe is contained in the Axioms.

      • Scientist

        What are the Axioms?

        • Orglodyte

          Sizzle’s right, they are Scientology’s actual creation story. Fair Use excerpt:

          Axiom 1 Life is basically a static.

          DEFINITION: A life static has no mass, no motion, no wavelength, no location in space or in time. It has the ability to postulate and to perceive.

          Axiom 2 The static is capable of considerations, postulates and opinions.

          Axiom 3 Space, energy, objects, form and time are the result of considerations made and/or agreed upon by the static and are perceived solely because the static considers that it can perceive them.

          There are a bunch more but these give the crucial viewpoint: we created the universe ourselves, and have forgotten that we did so.

          • Scientist

            Thank you.

            Those are so seriously stupid, I can’t stop laughing.

            But also crying, for the people who fell to this evil predatory cult.

            • Orglodyte

              Yep. Check out the Factors sizzle8 linked to. The style is like that of a pretentious 13-year-old.

            • Baby

              Welcome Scientist..It is a pleasure to meet you.

          • sizzle8
  • Phil McKraken

    Gyroscope ride = Infinity porch swing

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      In Scientology, infinity comes to you!

      • Katherine Meyrick

        Mike, Scientologists have infinite patience for you bullshit, but you’re really testing the limits of infinity.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          Yea, infinite probably wouldn’t like being dragged into such a finite dispute.

          But David Miscavige started it with the “Front Porch of Infinity.” Not even the “Front Lawn of Infinity.” Infinity could encompass that. But the porch? No way Jose!

          Because infinite can just shout “Get off my lawn” and be done with it. But the “Front Porch?” Them’s fightin’ words.

          It definitely messes with infinity’s infinite patience. If he keeps going it’ll be the Front Door of Infinity. Then the Parlor of infinity. Then the living room of Infinity. Then the Bathroom of Infinity. It’ll never stop until DM is right up against the Commode Door of Infinity.

          It’s got to be stopped.

          • Robert Eckert

            David Miscavige is leaving a flaming bag of dogshit on the Front Porch of Infinity, ringing the Doorbell of Infinity, and ditching.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Yea. Bad news. You don’t mess with infinity. Because Infinity never stops. One doesn’t joke around with Infinity. ‘Cause Infinity will joke around with you. Forever.

              You don’t want to be the punchline in Infinity’s Jest.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Yea. Bad news. You don’t mess with infinity. Because Infinity never stops. One doesn’t joke around with Infinity. ‘Cause Infinity will joke around with you. Forever.

              You don’t want to be the punchline in Infinity’s Jest.

            • EmmaDaoust

              Oh! I wanna see hisself stomping on the flaming bag in his fancy shoes.

    • Supper Powers

      Brilliant.

  • Qbird

    So what’s the consensus, is this guy, Barkanov, an ex Scientologist?

    • I really, really doubt it.

      • Qbird

        Okay just an average ordinary wingnut. That’s fine there Dodo.

        • Dude is either a random nutcase or part of OSA Op.

          • Qbird

            This little story is like the other one wherein the woman drove her car into the org — not enough information.

            • Yep. Interesting timing.

            • Supper Powers

              The victim narrative is coming together for 2016.

            • The victim card will be loud indeed.

            • Nat-leficent

              F5

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              Yep. They continue to post about Alex Gibney on their alexgibneyprogaganda(dot)com website. His “inciting religious hate” against the CO$ is to blame for everything now. I wonder if they will finally lay off him once the threat of Going Clear scoring an Oscar passes or if they will keep blasting away at him forever. They probably need a villain to rally the dwindling troops against.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      I think the lag in time between the first call and the CO$ reporting it to the police is that they were checking to see if he was a current/former clam. If he was, I doubt that they would have reported it. Him being a non-clam plays into their persecution complex and gives them a platform to spout off about how anti-COS propaganda is inciting religious hate and bigotry against them. JMO

      • Qbird

        I hear ya… I’ve been reading the comments on the article & Fred Rice thinks he’s another “satisfied customer.” So I was just wondering what others here in the bunker thought.

        • EmmaDaoust

          I think he’s Barkanov the wrong tree.

    • it seems to me quite likely that he is simply mentally ill. Delusions can fasten on almost any subject and Miscavige is as good for this purpose as anything else. Increased media coverage increases the chance of someone in a delusional state coming across Scientology… can you imagine the effect of someone with delusions of persecution watching footage of Miscavige speaking at a Scientology ‘event’?.

      it’s also odd that someone would spend that much time, even on Skype. It’s now common knowledge that government actors, with the cooperation of corporations like microsoft (who own Skype) can trace your location to within a reasonable radius. That is consistant with disordered thinking.

      As IG says, above, it’s unlikely that they would complain to the police about an ex-member, because too much might emerge about their behavior in a criminal court, and questions might be asked.

      The court case will be interesting, if he is diagnosed with a serious mental illness. The CofS should surely protest that there is no such thing, and work to keep him out of the hands of evil ‘psychs’.

      If he is found not to be criminally responsible for his actions, by reason of mental illness, the CofS then have a wonderful opportunity to shoot themselves in the foot by asserting that it is all a conspiracy, and ‘the psychs’ stepped with a convenient diagnosis as part of a cover-up.

      My guess is that they already have the publicity they need, and will now be uncharacteristically quiet about the whole thing.

  • Qbird

    .

  • Scientist

    Bit by bit, the malignant cult will be destroyed by those brave people who stand up to it.

    • Nat-leficent

      Scientist?

      • Scientist

        Yeppers

        • Nat-leficent

          Hi, I’m “Person” XD

          • I am linguistisist

            • Nat-leficent

              ðæt ɪz so kul.

            • Еиидеед.

            • Scientist

              rirelobql vf qnapvat ba gur prvyvat

            • I am not that good.

            • Scientist

              caeser cypher 13

            • Robert Eckert

              everybody is dancing on the ceiling?

            • Scientist

              lol:) First thing that came to my head, go figure

            • Robert Eckert

              first thing that came to mine was that you were writing in Georgian

    • Supper Powers

      Welcome.

      • Scientist

        Thanks, SP

        • Supper Powers

          What’s your field?

          • Scientist

            Nuklear physicks, just like ol ‘LRH

            • Supper Powers

              Thoughts on Hbomb in North Korea? They have the capability?
              Edited to be a question

            • Scientist

              Our sniffer Boeing WC-135 is already trying to figure that out. Probably a half way ignition, IMHO

            • Supper Powers

              So, what’s your interest in CoS? Mind me asking?

            • Scientist

              They abuse people

            • Supper Powers

              That, and how.

            • Doc M

              Sound like you’re testing him and are skeptical of his motives.
              But no sweat, I was in and out of here for 8 months and someone still accused me of being a troll (and I didn’t even know what troll meant at that time)

            • Supper Powers

              I’m in no position to be skeptical. My background is in science. I was curious what field he’s in. N Korea is news today. It’s after hours and seems like a relevant question for him.
              Edited ok change to no. Autocorrect stinks
              ETA I laugh at myself because, out of context, the first two sentences are hilariously contradictory next to each other.

            • Doc M

              As I said, no sweat, my undergrad and grad degrees are also in physics (astrophysics to be exact).

            • Scientist

              My undergrad was astro too:) Peeps don’t give nuf respect to astro.

            • Doc M

              I love it and still keep up with it. Get the journals and even make the occasional conference. the discoveries during my lifetime have been spectacular…from planetary to cosmic. Northern Ca is a good place for this, lots of world class astronomers out here, I even met Drake once.

            • Scientist

              My specialty was globular clusters. I want to invest in an actual scope. Too close to a major city to make it worthwhile.

            • Supper Powers

              I’m going to enjoy watching the conversations between you and Doc. It will go over my head 99% of the time but I’ll still enjoy it.

            • Sid

              Astrophysics is usually over everyone’s head.

            • Juicer77

              Ba dum TISH

            • Graham

              Don’t encourage him!

            • Doc M

              Interesting, my masters thesis was using globulars to measure galactic distances.

            • Scientist

              Mine was about axial orbit instability, but we probably shouldn’t get more specific here:)

            • Sid

              3 beers and I suffer from axial orbit instability also.

            • Scientist

              LMAO:)

            • Doc M

              That sounds interesting also.

            • Scientist

              And your thesis sound fascinating

            • Doc M

              For me, anything astonomy related is totally fascinating. The only thing that never interested me was constellations.

            • Supper Powers

              There’s other folks who are better at smoking out the trolls than me. They usually reveal themselves, though.
              Edited to make sense. Autocorrect, I shake my fist at you.

            • shasha40

              You are now an Official Bunker member !!! All required here is that you do give a … Welcome !!! 🙂

            • Robert Eckert

              First time they let off a fission bomb it was only 1/2 kiloton yield, widely believed to be a “nuclear fizzle” (in which the critical mass blows apart prematurely before much fission has occurred). It is possible that this first attempt at fusion was similarly not all that they intended

            • Doc M

              The haven’t verified if it was a hydrogen bomb yet, at least according to good news sources. They’ll know more this week as they analyze seismic activity, the air and other factors.

            • Supper Powers

              I’m paying some attention to the seismic inquiries. I’m with Scientist right now in that I think it’s probably a partial ignition of something. It’s unsettling to think of despots and the mentally unwell having such weaponry.

            • Doc M

              Yes,it sure is, that pudgy little guy with the bad haircut needs to go.

    • Doc M

      I think it’s really imploding due to their stupidly, the internet, and members getting sick of constantly paying. The Ortega’s, Tory’s, Karen’s, Rinder, Gibney etc etc just expose more people to this criminal cartel. They are helping the implosion speed up. This second part include those who are standing up and opening their mouths. They are helping a failing organization fall that much faster.

      • Scientist

        I agree completely. It was just 6 years ago or so when the original bunker started back on the VV. Tony really did a lot to empower the documentarians and the real life victims to step forward.

        • Doc M

          Agreed, he certainly helped it to snowball.

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        We are so close now, oh so close…
        (refresh)
        https://www.instagram.com/p/18-J3BF3cE/?tagged=scientology

  • Nat-leficent
    • Narapoid

      $700 dollars a month before the majors? Imagine all within Scientology taking home that and more.

  • here’s my caption for the latest DListed caption competition…. slightly edited for Bunker safety

    http://dlisted.com/2016/01/06/the-caption-this-contest-for-january-6th-2/

    pic

  • Supper Powers

    In other cult news: this cracks me up. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=aHOgmuopkrQ

    • Graham

      Same magic thinking.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    I just happened upon this photo posted 3 weeks ago. Sheesh, there’s only one caroler here that’s looks to be under 70+ years of age. This cult is aging out 🙂

    PHOTO CAPTION – “Open houses and Christmas party at Galaxy Press tonight!!”

  • Juicer77

    Hey, Fly! You were right, upon re-listening to Mike Rinder’s 2016 prediction interview, he does question the veracity of the information provided to the authors of the Time magazine article of 1992. In particular, he questions the truthfulness of Steve Fishman. Bunker article here discussing this very topic. I bow to your superior powers of memory, and your listening skills! 🙂 http://tonyortega.org/2015/08/19/why-steve-fishman-of-the-notorious-fishman-papers-is-today-serving-21-years-in-prison/

  • shasha40

    Bless you , Cindy and Matt for sharing your lovely pictures with us . Ghosttown for real !!! Tick , Tock , tiny memeber . 🙂

  • BuberZionist

    The tall guy in the cowboy hat has been in several “Golden Age of…” Scientology promos. He says “I’m hooked on the Bridge. I can tell you that!”

  • Benjamin Johnson

    Sweet Tap-Dancing Jesus – I thought my poor cousin at the Seattle Ideal Org was the only one dressing up like glassy-eyed Hee Haw extras. Keep up the great work Tony. “Miss Lovely” is next on my reading list.

  • Peculiar Musings

    As someone once said, if somebody threatens to shoot you, you are probably safe. If they where going to pull the trigger they would have done it already

  • Van Torrance

    How did the death threats of a man who claims to want to kill alli Scientologists become a footnote to someone’s Christmas pictures?