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The Scientology-Ireland connection that propelled Cathriona White to Hollywood

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[The Helnweins. L to R: Cyril, Renate, Wolfgang Amadeus, Ali Elvis (sitting), Gottfried, and Mercedes. Photo for the New York Times by Kenneth O Halloran.]

 
In 2009, Cathriona White emigrated from Ireland to Los Angeles. We’ve reported that once she was there, a group of young Scientologists welcomed her into the fold and encouraged her to begin courses at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre.

But from the beginning, our sources were telling us that it wasn’t an accident that Cat fell in with the Hollywood group. Something had happened in Ireland that convinced her to go, and helped her gain entrée to the California clique.

We should have known the reason sooner, because we’ve written about Austrian artist Gottfried Helnwein and his family in the past. But this week, a couple of our readers reminded us that the Helnweins own a castle in County Tipperary, where Cat herself was from. And photographs and online writings by Cat and the Helnweins make it clear: It was the Helnweins, in particular Gottfried’s son Cyril Helnwein, who form the connection between Ireland, Cathriona White, Hollywood, and Scientology.

Last December, the New York Times fashion magazine, T, ran a feature about Gottfried and his clan, calling them the “real-life Addams family” because they’re morbid and weird (but adorable, at least to the Times). There was no mention of Scientology in the article. But in 2011, we provided a different look at the Helnweins in a story for The Village Voice, and it wasn’t so heartwarming.

In 1997, Gottfried moved to Ireland after spending some years in Germany. He was originally from Austria, where he’d got his start as an internationally successful artist, known for his hyper-realistic portraits and disturbing subjects. His portrait of John F. Kennedy showed up on the cover of Time magazine in 1983, and he’s gained notoriety for portraits that have ended up as album art.

 
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[Album covers featuring art by Gottfried Helnwein]

 
He’s also been a Scientologist since about 1972, but that’s something he doesn’t want well known. In the 1990s in Germany, he sued a woman, a former Scientologist, who had publicized Gottfried’s involvement in the church. Six years after he first filed suit, in 2000, he dropped the matter.

But not only was Gottfried a longtime member of Scientology, his son Cyril had spent time in the Sea Org in England, and in 1996 when he was about 18, Cyril told his father that he wanted to marry a 16-year-old Sea Org worker named Melissa Paris.

As Melissa told us for our Voice story

Melissa says she was given an ultimatum: Marry Cyril Helnwein, or get kicked out of the Sea Org. “I was told that the only way I would be able to stay would be if I married him. I’d actually broken up with him right before that and…a high level executive told me that I needed to get back together with him ASAP. I was threatened with being dropped off in the middle of East Grinstead (England)….The guy’s father was pretty famous, and he wanted to marry me.”

Feeling that she had no choice, Melissa agreed to marry Cyril, but then got a concession out of him: She asked him to use some of his father’s wealth to fly them to the Caribbean for a honeymoon aboard Scientology’s private cruise ship the Freewinds. She knew that her older sister, Valeska Paris, was working on the ship and was being held there as a virtual prisoner. (Valeska believes it was because her mother had sued Scientology, and church leader David Miscavige wanted to keep the girl away from her mom. Valeska says she was kept on the ship for 11 years, unable to go ashore without an escort, before she finally was transferred to Australia and later left the Sea Org. She and Melissa didn’t see each other again after that 1996 honeymoon until they were reunited in 2009.)

Melissa’s marriage to Cyril lasted only a couple of years, and her involvement in the Sea Org also ended in 1998. But she told us that during the entire time she was in the Sea Org — from 1994 to 1998, working long hours in menial labor, she was paid a total of about $40, another reason she had little choice when she was forced into marrying.

Cyril’s own involvement in the Sea Org was reportedly a short one, and instead of sticking to the billion-year contract he’d signed, he followed in his father’s footsteps to become an artist, just like his other siblings Wolfgang Amadeus, Ali Elvis, and Mercedes.

According to the Times profile, it’s Cyril and his own family (he has three children) who today live in the County Tipperary castle that the entire family once called home. The Gurteen Castle, built in 1866, lies across the River Suir from the Tipperary town of Kilsheelan. About an hour away to the northwest, in the village of Cappawhite, is where Cathriona White grew up. She’s returning to Cappawhite this Saturday, when she’ll be laid to rest next to her father, Pat, who died from brain cancer in 2012.

As we’ve tried to learn more about Cathriona and her life, we’ve been poring over the traces she left on social media, and we’ve received help from numerous readers. And they helped us find that Cathriona’s friendship with Cyril Helnwein might have begun through the castle’s pets.

Both Cat and Cyril made references, in their Instagram accounts, to Cathriona taking care of dogs. In this photo Cyril posted a week ago, he remembers Cat and “all the doggy-sitting”…

 
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In 2012, when her father had died, Cat had been unable to attend his funeral because she was living in the US illegally. But on January 15, 2013, she married Mark Damian Burton, a Scientologist and cameraman she had met on the set of a web TV show, “The Online Gamer.” She didn’t tell her other friends about the marriage, but it gave her the ability to travel more freely, and in 2014 she returned to Ireland to be in her sister Lisa’s wedding. When she posted a photo from the ceremony, Cyril Helnwein asked if she’d have time to get together…

 
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However her friendship with Cyril began, getting to know the Helnweins gave Cat access to a new world. In 2005, for example, Gottfried let Marilyn Manson and Dita Von Teese hold their wedding at Gurteen Castle. And also that year, Manson attended Cyril’s art show in Los Angeles, where the three of them — Cyril, Manson, and Gottfried — were photographed…

 
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That show was hosted by actor Danny Masterson, and also attracted other Scientology celebrities, including Jason Lee. The My Name is Earl star is also a collector of Cyril’s photographs, along with Scientology actors Christopher and Danny Masterson, Laura Prepon, Jenna Elfman, and Michael Peña.

Cat White couldn’t help but be impressed by the sheer number of Scientology stars that Cyril knew and who supported his work.

Meanwhile, in Los Angeles, Cyril’s sister Mercedes was also finding success as a writer and an artist, and it had helped her befriend another Scientology celebrity: musician Beck Hansen. Mercedes had appeared with Beck in the video for his 2008 song “Gamma Ray”…

 
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In 2010, Beck had hosted a reception for an art show by Mercedes…

 
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And at an earlier Mercedes art show, in 2004, a photographer captured Marissa Ribisi, Beck, Mercedes Helnwein, and Beth Reisgraf (Photo by J. Sciulli/WireImage)…

 
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When Beck came to Dublin this summer for a concert, his friend Cyril Helnwein was on stage, taking dramatic photos…

 
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Here then was the connection to Beck that our sources originally told us about. They told us that Cathriona had first heard about Scientology from Beck’s circle of friends, and it had motivated her to move to Los Angeles and make her own foray into the entertainment industry. One of the first people she got to know — and reportedly dated — was a Scientologist artist named Tiber McCormick. In 2003, McCormick and Cyril Helnwein had put on a joint art show in Los Angeles that was hosted by Christopher and Danny Masterson at Jason Lee’s loft.

Cat was on her way. She had local contacts, and they steered her not only to work in Hollywood, but also to courses at the Hollywood Celebrity Centre.

Cat also met former Sea Org worker Jenny Burpee, who told a reporter she took Cat under her wing. But even with the entrée she had managed by knowing the Helnweins back in Tipperary, Cat still struggled to find work as an actress and then as a make-up artist.

But then, in 2012, she met Jim Carrey and everything changed.

 
UPDATE: These photos just came in from a tipster who attended tonight’s wake for Cathriona White in the Tipperary village of Cappawhite. They capture the press photographers waiting outside White’s Funeral Home for a chance to shoot a celebrity…

 
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OUR CAT WHITE COVERAGE:

Sept 30: Jim Carrey’s Scientologist girlfriend on ‘SRD’ when she killed herself: Friends
Oct 1: Cathriona White’s Scientology ‘twin’ on grueling courses was an actor named Travis Case
Oct 4: Meet the young Hollywood types who introduced Cathriona White to Scientology
Oct 6: Scientology spied on Jim Carrey to get him on the ‘Purif,’ says former exec
Oct 6: Cathriona White was married to Scientologist Mark Burton
Oct 7: A secret Scientology wake, a ‘Snow White’ link, & more odd twists emerge in the Cat White story
Oct 8: For some reason, news sites are keeping quiet about who found Cat White’s body. So here he is.

 
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Your proprietor on Media Mayhem

It’s always a treat to be on “Media Mayhem” with Allison Hope Weiner. She asks your proprietor about Cathriona White, Leah Remini’s book, Bella Cruise’s wedding, and more…

 

 
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BOOK NOTES
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We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, so we’ve posted them at a dedicated page. Reader Sookie put together a complete index and we’re hosting it here on the website. Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly.

Tony Ortega’s upcoming appearances (and check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour)…

 
Oct 23: Sydney, Giant Dwarf Theatre (with Steve Cannane and Bryan Seymour)

Oct 25: Melbourne, The Wheeler Centre, 3 pm, free but reservations recommended (with Steve Cannane)

Oct 28: Adelaide, Wheatsheaf Hotel, (with Sen. Nick Xenophon)

Oct 30: Perth, Collins Street Centre, Collins St and Shaftesbury St, South Perth, 7 pm

Past dates: Santa Barbara (5/16), Hollywood (5/17), Orange County (5/17), San Diego (5/20), San Francisco (5/22), New York (6/11), Chicago (6/20), Toronto (6/22), Clearwater (6/28), Washington DC (7/12), Hartford (7/14), Denver (7/17), Dallas (7/20), Houston (7/22), San Antonio (7/24), Austin (7/25), Paris (7/29), London (8/4), Boston (8/24), Phoenix (9/15), Cleveland (9/23), Minneapolis (9/24), Portland (9/27), Seattle (9/28), Vancouver BC (9/29)

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 9, 2015 at 07:00

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  • nottrue

    A little competition…https://youtu.be/HgZVE_UaCsU

    • Nat-leficent

      Bwahaha! So spot on especially min. 2:26, The Decemberist Basel Opening 2015 “Going Global”

  • TexasBroad

    Happy Birthday!!! I’m 50 and a half and loving it—except when I opened the mail to find an AARP card…I wasn’t ready for that much reality! Celebrate big!

    • jazzlover

      Beware the AARP card. LOL. There was a time a couple of years ago when they were sending me like 2 a week. I was thinking of threatening to sue them for causing me emotional distress 😉

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I’m not even close to retirement or 49 and I get that garbage all the time.

      • aegerprimo

        I have one of those… an AARP card….. but by spouse is …. OLD. I have one by…. whatchacallit… by default.

    • And speaking of reading glasses, you are not alone.. 😉

      • Sandy

        Reading glasses can happen at any age after 30. Yay, Walgreens!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Severely sexy!

      • MaxSpaceman

        –PAB no. 111 “Eyesight and glasses”
        –also Dianetic Auditor’s Bulletin vol. 2 no. 7 January 1952 “An Afternoon With Ron”

        “You are only three or four hours from taking your glasses off for keeps.”

        Dianetics, then, can’t help do squat with the eyesight. And scilons ‘still’ speak of curing asthma, improving eyesight, and healing.

      • M from Toronto

        I totally admit to this shallowness…
        Hello, Gorgeous!

      • thetastic

        Goddamn, I wish I looked like that in my glasses.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    OT: but I’m watching Chris Shelton in The Getting Clear Conference. And He’s talking about The Truth Rundown as done on Sea Org Members. And realized that type of Brian Washing would have been effective on me had I actually routed in to the Sea Org. It is a very sobering thought. Also, explains with good detail how SO are coerced into deluding themselves that real events they’ve witnessed are instead a delusion brought on by a probably imagined serious crime.

    • Ralph Hunter

      How please explain

  • Fred G. Haseney

    Escape from PAC Base?

    At 8:30 AM today, near the corner of Catalina St. and Sunset Blvd. (that’s the northeast corner of the parking lot behind PAC Base), I headed east to Von’s (Safeway in northern California; a supermarket). As I approached that corner, a guy came running around the corner, so I naturally stepped to my left toward the curb in order to give him plenty of room. He wore black pants (a Dockers-type) and a black t-shirt (the pants were darker than his shirt). The guy ran past me, heading east on Sunset, and looked behind him as if in pursuit. Moments later, a PAC Base Security Guard (“SG”) rolled around the corner on his bicycle. The SG, by the way, is the same one that the Angry Gay Pope has described as “handsome” but with “big tits.” As I crossed the street, I saw another guy dressed just like the first guy (dark clothes) standing on the other side of the SG and in the middle of the street. I shouted, “A Scientology Security Guard in pursuit. Where’s my camera when you need it?” I didn’t stay around to find out anything about this drama as it unfolded. I wonder in hindsight: were those two escaping members of the Rehabilitation Project Force (“RPF”)?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Damn Fred you’re a big fella you should have stuck your umbrella between their spokes. This really smells fishy to me. Good reporting!

      • Fred G. Haseney

        Although I’ve tampered (that is, destroyed) my International Association of Scientologists 25th Anniversary umbrella, I should have tossed it into the Security Guard’s spokes… CRASH. The two guys on either end of the Security Guard appeared to be taunting him.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Pleasure is all mine Fred.

          • Fred G. Haseney

            I have a message for you from JennyAtLAX who declares: “I need my &$%#@^% toilet stall fumigated!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Rats or just general the wretched stench she picked up from diggin in the food court dumpsters again?

      • beauty for ashes

        That would have been such good irony. Foisted by an IAS umbrella!

        • Fred G. Haseney

          Have you seen the pictures of that umbrella? I posted them to the Bunker a few days ago (in the morning), The umbrella came to me anonymously; I’ve been holding onto it and when it rained recently, I opened it; aghast, my jaw dragging the floor. Quickly, I grabbed the scissors and went to town on it.

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            Yes I remember when you posted the photo of the umbrella incident!

          • beauty for ashes

            Yes, and I had this funny thought, my former art therapist would be proud of you! 🙂

    • MostEthicalPimp

      It may have been a drill which tells one they plan to do the same thing if it was a real event.. But it could also be real! If you do see something like that try to be a voice for the escapee. Get to them and tell they don’t have to return and that freeloader debt is not legally binding. And that they can leave get their thoughts to get together and return if they choose. But most importantly call:
      1-866-XSEAORG

      • Fred G. Haseney

        Next time, I’ll be their voice. That’s the first time I’ve seen anything like that (it looked real to me).

        • MostEthicalPimp

          They really these as drill. If they say it’s just a drill: Reply with something like: “So your plan is to hunt down and forcible return anyone who tries to leave since that is what you are drilling?” “You do realize how illegal and immoral that is?”

          • Fred G. Haseney

            Thanks, Most EthicalPimp. I’ve jotted down your advice and will up the ante next time I see what might be a PAC Base escape attempt.

            • MostEthicalPimp

              My other advice is ether have camera or but your hands in your pockets and repeat to your self if they beat me up I’ll get a big cash settlement but if I touch them they’ll get a big cash settlement.

            • Fred G. Haseney

              No touching allowed. Great advice. I must carry the camera at all times.

            • Sebastian L. Jackson

              Maybe I should show up at PAC Base with a boom box blasting “Hollaback Girl.” I’ll be able to pay off my student debts in no time!

        • Live footage of a Sea Org Escape and capture back by the Guards will go viral on YouTube, I guarantee that.

          • Fred G. Haseney

            My camera takes video, too.

      • Alert : 1-866-XSEAORG This telephone number does not work and has been un-working for a long time, so it is no use to anyone.

    • This is odd, you are possibly onto something, Fred. Did they catch the guy?

      • Fred G. Haseney

        I don’t know if they caught the guy(s). Without my camera, I didn’t stick around, and only later did I realize it might have been more than just two guys taunting the Security Guard.

        • Thanks for your reporting. Do you have a camera on your phone?

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            We need to set up a GoFundMe to buy Fred a pair of these 🙂
            (refresh)
            http://www.actionindia.net/uploade/1313065133-3309-clip_image002.jpg

            • Fred G. Haseney

              That’s great, Intergalactic Walrus; do you think I’ll fool PAC Base Security Guards?

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              If an obvious buffoon like LRH is still fooling them, you should have no problem whatsoever!

            • Fred G. Haseney

              Oops, my bad!

            • beauty for ashes

              Yes, but knowing Fred he will want them bedazzled too. Just kidding! I kind of want laser pointers coming from them too.

          • Fred G. Haseney

            No camera on my phone, something I rarely carry around. I normally pocket the camera, so next time, I’ll be prepared, DodoTheLaser!

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      The SG, by the way, is the same one that the Angry Gay Pope has described as “handsome” but with “big tits.”</blockquote

      http://img.ifcdn.com/images/e978aef7310c82164c9a5fc7d952a99a7be69a0cd083308743b29a0d1c6a8a80_1.gif

      • Fred G. Haseney

        I stand corrected: the AngryGayPope didn’t call the Security Guard “handsome”; he said, instead, “Oh, my God… he’s beautiful.” Later, AGP referred to the SG’s tits as being too small (see photo).

        Screen grabs courtesy AngryGayPope’s YourTube Channel, “Bugging & Bothering Body Routers of Scientology Hollywood,” October 3, 2015.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_MgamRwB_g

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Some T-Shirt blacks will look brown after repeated washing.

      • Fred G. Haseney

        Thanks, MLT; that makes even more the case that the two guys may have been RPF escapees.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Watching Going Clear and you-know-who in Finland
    (refresh)
    https://instagram.com/p/8i_-asDcwm/?taken-by=mirocarl

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Red Strip in Finland? I love our global village.

    • Sebastian L. Jackson

      Yay, Yle!

  • PlanetJ

    Off to read the article..I’ve had bad computer probs the past few days..yea..I know..1st world problems.
    Anyway..here is a cool,chill song. It’s called “Bridge is Sighs” by Robert Trower – https://youtu.be/0tLsFsGxLmE

    • jazzlover

      I LOVE THIS ALBUM. I saw them play it in full when they opened for Tull at Shea Stadium. My first concert ever!

      • PlanetJ

        That had to be awesome! My uncle had me listening to him and a ton of other genres..he had a bass ass stereo with a turntable..and tons of “Peaches” crates full of albums. Loved spending time over there. 🙂

        • jazzlover

          It was! Stadium was packed with about 60,000. Rory Gallagher (Irish blues guitarist) was also on the bill. The whole thing lasted about 6 or 7 hours with breaks between bands and all. Robin Trower is one of the greats. Imagine seeing 3 top notch bands for about 15 or 20 bucks.

          • PlanetJ

            You”ve head of peaces crates? I was a record big record store they had in a few cities..they looked like this,my uncle had tons of them full! we would be listening to some blues, Junior Kimbrough one minute and then listen to Tom Tom Club,Prince,Led Zeppelin and then 40s style Big Band music..He was def a music manic! lol I truly loved it.

        • ReallyMGM

          I wish I had some of those Peaches crates now to store vinyl. The local store was around the corner from my house and I never took advantage of what a treasure trove that place was.

    • StudentOfLife

      Day of the Eagle and Too Rolling Stoned by Trower are all time underrated songs. Trower was a very technically brilliant guitarist. Jimmy Strickland, who I was in a band with, is still in St. Louis area, on facebook…is a truly great unknown (but infamous in St. Louis area) guitarist, had similar taste as your uncle. He had all the John Mayall Blues Band, the Todd Rundgren Nazz albums, and loved big band swing as much as he loved Jimi Hendrix. I sang a lot of Robin Trower songs for an anti-disco band from Edwardsville, IL named Zoned. Our bass player drank himself to death one night and that got me back in college after a two year non stop party in a band trying to make it big. I barely remember the late 70s, lol. This video brought back some fond memories tonight. And all our records were in peach crates. Streetside Records in University City in St. Louis still uses them.

      • PlanetJ

        I use to take care of an old blues man named Napoleon Strickland..he went all over the world till a bad car wreck put him in the wheel chair. I love Trower,Johnny Winters.,Hendrix,Stones, .my uncle had a huge selection of music..we would listen to Zeppelin (my personal all time fav),Some 40s swing style big back music,Louis Armstrong,.then on to the Tom Tom Club,The Clash,Southern Culture on the Skids,Stones.The Eagles,Talking Heads,The Cult,Muddy Waters,The Cure,classical music…you name it..he had it! lol He even listened to five finger death punch..lol
        My favorite concerts were Santana and Grateful Dead, (early 90s in Colorado)..then the 98′ tour of Plant & Page,which was a dream come true!! But PRINCE! OMG! That was fantastic! It was a one night only show..tix went on sale that day,which happened to be Thanksgiving day! we got out tix..I even got on stage and he put his sunglasses on me..but when I left the stage..his bodyguard got them back. 🙁
        I also got to see tons of other people play(including SRV),because of the music city I live in..lets just say every May is an ALLLL month party! 😉

        • StudentOfLife

          Great taste in music, Jimmy Strickland exposed me to so much great music, saw Winters and many of those bands above in concert as I lived next to the Mississippi River Festival which had many great bands. In 1978, I arrived Friday evening and got in line waiting nearly three days to purchase Zeppelin tickets on Monday morning from the St. Louis Checkerdome. I was first in line at ticket window $400 was not enough to buy four $20 seats (limit of four with 20K people in line, lol.

          All of us in the band Zoned went totally straight (only concert before age 25 that probably happened) to learn from our idols and watching from Row 6 center it turned out to be worst concert I ever saw, like four 12 year olds playing in a garage for first time. No wonder Song Remains the Same was a poor live album, as that night in St Louis they were often out of tune, Page passed out on stage twice, and all but John Paul Jones just sounded awful.

          Saw Prince nearly thirty years apart and from Row 6 center in 2012 in Los Angeles he was simply perfect in every way both times. Weird that he was a Jehovah’s Witness for so long and maybe still is. I hope not.

          • PlanetJ

            You would definitely have a field day (and it WOULD take all day to go thru my uncles vinyl’s and CD’s)..The water damage messed up a lot of his albums..I thought he would cry! But he’s still got 100s of them left. He’s the one that got me into the Roger Dean art..his room mate and best friend was an amazing artist. He painted the huge flying elephant on the dining room wall,one night when they were having fun..lol 😉 The house was one of my parents rental houses..that flying elephant stayed on the dining room wall till my dad fixed it up for my grandparents to live in. I literally cried when they painted over it! it was so well done..it was like losing a part of history..and a part of my childhood history. I was a very sad girl to see it go! I begged my dad to keep it up..but my grandparents didn’t like it. I’ll have to ask my uncle if he ever got a photo of it,before it was painted over. We don’t talk much these days tho..not since my mom died 11yrs ago..it’s sad because we were always so close..but when the glue that kept us together (my mom in this case) moved on from this world..our whole family kinda fell apart from one another.. 🙁 But that’s another story for another day.

            Anyway..here’s the pic of the flying elephant I was talking about. I think it was for an album of a group called “OSIBISA” an African rock band. My aunt ended up getting the flying elephant tattood on her leg a few years ago..lol https://uploads.disquscdn.com/images/20b974fdba61c125d9b9fcba66cb71a18eca5e715cac2d542bc2b280e4fe33d7.jpg

          • PlanetJ

            Not sure if you like the blues..but this is an awesome album,if you do!
            Taj Mahel –
            THE NATCH`L BLUES(Full Album) 1969
            https://youtu.be/7iF0Va8v5BM

            • StudentOfLife

              Simply Fabulous. Bombay’s in Ventura still has great blues on Sundays 4pm to 8pm . They were well known by real guitarists. I had never heard the entire album until last night when I did housework while enjoying hearing every song. Thank you.

            • PlanetJ

              If you ever want anymore blues recommendation..just holla! 😉 You should look up Junior Kimbrough and RL Burnside! hold on..I’ll find the youtube links for you..for future listening,if you don’t have time right now..lol
              here’s Junior Kimbrough (The Black Key’s also did an album of all his music called “Chulahoma” I grew up about 5 miles from there)
              This is Junior’s album called – All Night Long –
              https://youtu.be/N4by8BLkdDw

            • PlanetJ

              Here’s my favorite RL Burnside album..it’s a bit modern..he did a few songs with some well known artists at the time (mid 2000s,I think)
              RL Burnside – A Bothered Mind –
              https://youtu.be/BHFPP47E298

            • PlanetJ

              One More!! lol.. The North Mississippi Allstars (they are from my neck of the woods..They do tons of RL Burnside,Junior K and Otha Turner’s music) They are awesome!! Here is a playlist from their best songs.
              https://youtu.be/kZ2o5-yRTDY?list=RDEMEJIOVbkZL-2J3Zr1d1as1A

  • beauty for ashes

    Better late than never. 🙂
    Click the heart. its right under the number of comments.
    And as Dead Lron said~ **ML***
    F5 for pic that I took but looks better than it should cause of Nat.

  • villagedianne

    The latest at RadarOnline from Cat White’s Scientologist BFF Burpee:

    “She loved him, for whatever reason. That’s true love, whether it’s right or wrong. Even when he was ranting and raving, she would be so calm, so compassionate, and I always wondered, how did she do it?”

    I can’t know if this about Carrey is true but my suspicion is Let the Trashing of Jim Carrey begin, courtesy of COS.

    Later she says:

    “Burpee said that “there’s definitely things that she told me” about Carrey “that I will need to speak to him about, that I will need a resolution on — and I will talk to him about it at the right time.”

    I guess she decided that now is the right time.

    Link: http://radaronline.com/celebrity-news/cathriona-white-body-found-jim-carrey-girlfriend/

    • Yeah, Burpee, speak to Jim about why Cat was sick as a dog on her Purif. Ugh.

    • jazzlover

      Little full of herself that she assumes he’s gonna speak to her, isn’t she?

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Jenny the vampire, oops I mean “producer” doesn’t want the spotlight to go away, does she? Postulating an extra 5 minutes of fame off of this tragedy but sliming Jim Carrey?

      • jazzlover

        I think you mean her first 5 minutes of fame. Who the heck is she? I’d never heard of her before this.

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          The first 5 minute round was last week’s interviews proclaiming she was Cat’s BFF who “adopted” her and found the body with the focus all on Jenny, not Cat. This round’s purpose to to draw blood from Carrey apparently. IDK

          • jazzlover

            Yeah, you could be right. The whole acting like she’s buds with “Jim” sorta makes me chuckle, though 🙂

    • noseinabk

      Dead agenting Carrey just like they did with not mentioning who else she wrote notes to.

      • MaxSpaceman

        ( like your new avi alot, nose 🙂 )

        • noseinabk

          Thanks Max.

    • This part seems confused:

      Burpee said that she had spoken with White about a possible trip to the Joshua Desert in late-September, shortly before her death. She said she was busy and unclear on plans, and went without White.

      “So I went off then, Cat texted me and was like, ‘Why did you go without me?’ She was mad. That was our last conversation,” she said.

      In another account Jenny said she (Jenny) didn’t know if she could go because she was busy, and then she wasn’t so she did, but didn’t text Cat until after she’d left. Why wouldn’t she at least drop a note to her BFF?

      (I first read it as “Cat telexed me”, blink blink.)

      • villagedianne

        Not surprising that you found it confusing. Some of these tabloid website writers are not that literate. It’s not unusual to find misspellings as well as garbled sentences.

        • jazzlover

          Let’s see what the real Duke has to say about that:

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOePGV9Utrk

        • I assumed that the story was by someone who wasn’t paying attention and didn’t care about the details, but it still sounded confused.

    • romanesco

      I found Burpee’s picture from before Cathriona did her makeup…

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        Too soon. A girl is dead.

        • romanesco

          My bad…taste. But let’s face it. That’s who she was involved with.

      • I thought that was Elle ……..

    • Ruby

      Everything said to the press by any of Cat’s cherch friends is scripted by OSA at this point in time…GUARANTEED.

    • Here’s a question: Have Jim Carry and Jenny ever met? (Photos?) Or did all of Cat’s friends hide behind the furniture when Carrey came over?

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Trashing Carrey and also her mom who may or may not have called Cat a failure… OSA Fair Game. One Two Three Go!

    • Miss Tia

      oh honey, woe betide you if Carrey or her family speaks to YOU about things they need resolution on and you don’t have a script handy!!

      keep blabbing Blurpee, your statements will conflict….keep talking…..go on….

      • Ella Raitch

        exactly…

  • Gabreya Bradley

    Sad situation. This is what happens when you get yourself involved in Scientology.

  • BTs2Free

    My thoughts about Cathriona keep going back to the fact that just prior to her death a couple of her neighbors reported that she seemed really paranoid and had installed security cameras all around her property. That could be nothing. Lots of people have security cameras around their home, especially when they have involvement with celebrities. It’s just the timing and the fact that something about her demeanor didn’t sit right or seemed off with them.

    The other thing that keeps coming to mind are the secretive “private security” guys staking out her house after her death and the broken coroner’s tape that the police seemed to be unaware of. I’d call that a breach in protocol. Collection of evidence and forensic analysis rely upon having an uncontaminated crime scene. Who knows, maybe they completed that part of the investigation?

    The OSA high strangeness alarm just keeps going off on this tragedy the more that Tony reports about it.

    • Always Amazed

      I am waiting for that to be the next chapter, her paranoia could have been for good reason.

      • BTs2Free

        And the other thing is, where was she getting the money to pay for a house in LA while working as a make-up artist on independent side projects? AND Scientology courses for that matter? What’s up with that? I highly doubt that Jim Carrey was just handing over the credit card.

        • Sebastian L. Jackson

          Well, Mark Burton comes from Old Scientology.

          • BTs2Free

            Yeah, maybe Burton, however most Scientologists are in serious debt.

            • Sebastian L. Jackson

              If his father-in-law was in Snow White and proven his loyalty, it may be possible he is in Scientology’s Inner Party instead of the Outer Party or the Proles.

            • BTs2Free

              Agreed. I sense that OSA was and is heavily involved and Cathriona was tied in with that, most likely unknowingly. No doubt she was on the cans a LOT over the last few months or more being pumped for any information regarding Carrey. This is why she was “stalled” on her SRD.

            • Sebastian L. Jackson

              Or she had a breakdown on the SRD and/or interrogations, Carrey broke up with her as a result, and she killed herself.

        • I think I saw that her rent on that house was $5,000/month. That’s $60,000/year just to pay the rent, then add everything else on top of that with still more to pay income tax.

          Six figure income from her work? Don’t think so.

    • M from Toronto

      Just because you’re paranoid, doesn’t mean they aren’t after you.
      Honestly, this whole story is giving the hair on the back of my neck a workout.

      • BTs2Free

        Mine too.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          So much of it sounds so wrong. At the very least Scientology is TRYING to spin the connection away from them. If they had no involvement in the progression of events, they would have just had a short expression of sadness and condolences and that would be it.

          But no. They go into high weirdness mode and draw the suspicion of press, police, family and onlookers, convincing everyone that they were deeply involved in why Cat, one of their own, died.

          • M from Toronto

            Methinks they doth protest too much.

            • BTs2Free

              Loudly

            • Methinks they doth protest Dead Agent too much.

          • Straight into attack, spin and denial.

          • I understand what you’re saying but my mind keeps getting caught trying to wrap my head around the concept:

            – they would have just had a short expression of sadness and condolences and that would be it

            In my 3+ years if reading, lurking I’ve never seen anything that allows my brain to even consider that as a potential behavior.

            A desirable behavior? A reasonable behavior? A preferred behavior? Oh yeah,

            But as much a potential as my being awarded an IAS Medal of Valor.

          • BTs2Free

            Ikr. They don’t seem to do the “being fabian” and “three feet back of society’s head” routine too well.

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Often one installs security AFTER there has been a break-in…

      • Todd Tomorrow

        My dogs kept making it go off even though the security company said they fixed that issue. I leave about 150$ worth of change in a fish bowl since that’s what our neighborhood cat burglar seems to like to steal.

    • When was it installed, and when did Burpee go on her trip to Joshua Desert? Because when she got back, she seemed to know how to access it remotely and skip though four days to check if anyone had gone in or out.

  • Sebastian L. Jackson
    • noseinabk

      No.
      I this real? I was totally fooled by the fake Burton Mary Poppins trailer. Disappointed too.

      https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GX0bdy23ejw

      • Sebastian L. Jackson

        For realsies, it’s official!

      • Robert Eckert
        • noseinabk

          Oh no. I would think Archie fans would hate this as much as I hate the idea of a Jane Austen book being turned into a zombie movie.

    • Ella Raitch

      Muslin does not launder well

  • Fuck you, OSA/RTC.

    Rammstein-Engel (Live from Madison Square Garden)HD
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4KEj9u_6I-E

    • Miss Tia

      i woke up the other day and had this song stuck in my head….

      https://youtu.be/IxuEtL7gxoM

      • Cool. Their songs helped me a lot to deal with stress when I was on staff in the scientology org.
        I had this little MP3 player that only held like 75 songs, so I would update my playlist through the computer every few weeks or so, but Rammstein was always there.

        • Miss Tia

          Rammstein is DEFINITELY therapeutic for stress!! Well IMO! 🙂 Thanks for sharing that, next time I’m blasting ’em, I’ll remember that! DU HAST!!

    • Acherontia

      Oh man I was at that show. It was incredible

      • Dude. So cool.

        • Acherontia

          I learned that you can in fact feel flamethrower heat from 80′ away.

          Second time I saw them I was in the crowd. It got real hot, REAL FAST.

          • Till has more experience with fire than some fireman, no offence to fireman.

    • TexasBroad

      A summary of Mr. Broad’s interest in the Bunker–
      -Did Jimmy3 say anything really funny today?
      -What music has Dodo shared?

      • TonyOrtega

        I usually wonder about that first question myself, but never the second.

        I just don’t have time to go through the music videos.

        • outraged

          We can do that for you.

        • I do wonder what music you like when you have time to listen to it..

          • TonyOrtega

            Though the Bunker is located deep under Manhattan, your proprietor remains loyal to his favorite station, KCRW’s eclectic 24-hour feed, in his ancestral home of Los Angeles, which we stream through the miracle of the Internet.

            • Thanks for replying. Eclectic is my middle name. Will check it out.

            • TonyOrtega

              That’s it. Taking nothing away from the Hole’s official anthem or the Bunker’s house band, Steely Dan, that feed is the actual soundtrack the Bunker gets written to.

            • Now the whole world knows the secret ingredient of Ortega’s success. 🙂
              Seriously, thank you for all you do Tony. Have a good night, good sir.

            • Sergeant Pepper

              And Allison Hope Weiner’s secret drink. A very revealing day.

            • Nat-leficent

              . .

            • Sandy

              You know this is true.

            • ReallyMGM

              Sorting through my vinyl collection yesterday I found several Steely Dan albums I didn’t remember ever buying. It was like Christmas!

            • scottmercer

              Funny you should say that Tony, since I live in LA, grew up in NY, and am constantly streaming WFMU out of New York, either their main feed or the Ichiban Rock and Soul stream. So kind of backwards of yourself. KCRW is boss though. https://wfmu.org/listen-live/ichiban http://www.kcrw.com/music/shows/eclectic24

            • MaxSpaceman

              so is it the Dodgers of your growing up, or the Amazin’s of your adulthood, for ya’s

            • Tony Ortega

              I adopted the home team, and thus I am in a good mood tonight.

        • TexasBroad

          He did say that I should add – What the hell???!!!! How are they still around???

          He likes to pretend he doesn’t know anything about all this, but I caught him talking passionately to someone who had just seen Going Clear, but didn’t otherwise know very much – I was amazed at how many stories he knew!

        • TexasBroad

          I can’t even your schedule these days!

    • Jo

      Went to the last trip to tipp, I think Rage Against The Machine played, then it was Cypress Hill and House Of Pain. Bjork too, amazing weekend, long time ago, remember the rain too, it always rain here.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      That’s pretty bad ass, Dodo. That’s what a rock show should be like.

    • romanesco

      Well before the Nazi regime, Engel, which translates to angel in English, was the surname many Jews were forced to take in order to emigrate to Germany. There are no angels in Jewish lore. It was meant as an insult.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Think that is the greatest ‘take a bow’ in entertainment history.

      A magnificent ‘thank you’ back to the audience. Like I’ve never seen.

      • “A magnificent ‘thank you’ back to the audience, like I’ve never seen.”
        It was very special, indeed.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Dude! Good ‘seeing’ you. Yeah- that blew me away comletely. I’ve never seen a musical artist or band do that. Completely awesome. Btw, they were late 90s huge and are they still doing it?

          • Good ‘seeing’ you too. Singer and one of the guitarists have solo projects, but Rammstein is still going strong, even when on hiatus. They are force of nature.

    • MM

      Dodo, you probably know this already, but just in case you missed it: TURBODROM are releasing their 2011-13 Rammstein каверы на Русском, on thier official YT channel:
      http://vk.com/wall-23103273_925

  • Doc. M

    This is Peter Mascavige, though he changed his name to David when his Parents became involved in Scientology and cleaned up his act. You can see that though he looks 6 or so he was really 13 and already delusional. He did get rid of the accent and learned how to speak. Unfortunately, he never did grow much.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1Iw-GwoQMI

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I see a reality show!

  • Eivol Ekdal

    Goodnight Tony. Goodnight Bunker.

  • outraged

    Daily Mail went all out for Cat’s funeral. Full Page Spread.
    So fucking sad.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3266196/Jim-Carrey-arrives-Dublin-ex-girlfriend-Cathriona-White-s-funeral-Hollywood-star-believed-flown-overnight-private-jet-Los-Angeles.html

    Glad it is in Ireland. Not in LA. This is her family, followed by mourners:

    • TonyOrtega

      Funeral tomorrow. This was just the body arriving at the funeral home.

      • Susan black

        Which the Irish call “the removal”…had to look it up.

      • outraged

        Mr. Ortega, if you are still aquí con nosostos, does any one from Cat’s family living in Ireland belong to Scientology in any way shape or form?

        also

        Why didn’t Cat’s family offer to fly her to Ireland for her father’s funeral?

        • Robert Eckert

          Earlier Tony mentioned that not only weren’t any of Cat’s family in Scientology, they weren’t even aware that she was.
          The problem with Cat going back to Ireland was that then she could never get back to the US.

          • outraged

            oh right! It was a VISA type thing. So sad. AWFUL the US would NOt make an exception for her father’s funeral.

            • it’s not a question of them not making an exception they wouldn’t have known as otherwise she would have to have admitted to them she’d overstayed which pretty much screws you up ever returning

            • outraged

              it’s fucked anyway you look at it.

            • Robert Eckert

              An exception to what? It wasn’t legal for her to remain in the country at all after her visa was expired. If she left the country that would be deporting herself.

        • TonyOrtega

          No one in her family involved on Scientology. They didn’t even know she was in it.

          As for flying home for the funeral in 2012, her problem would have been getting BACK, through immigration, which her family could not have helped her with.

          • outraged

            Cat was involved with Scifiers for a while without telling her family who tragically found out when she committed suicide.

            Do you you think someone koolaider encouraged Cathriona NOT to tell her parents and other family members in Ireland? It seems a long time for NO one to have any idea Cat was involved with the Scientology.

    • this is the 3rd time they’ve made scientology their lead story on their homepage [I think] and it’s all this story… and having 45 photos is pretty amazing as well

      pic

      • Newiga

        The picture of Cat’s mother breaks my heart. No parent should have to bury their child. :'( Let alone face such a media circus in the middle of it all..

        • Kay

          Very true, I feel so sorry for her.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Are those the River Dancers in the blue coats?

  • burythenuts

    Flyby….Creepy….but I did LOVE that cover for Blackout.
    Still do.

    • TonyOrtega

      It’s Gottfried himself, btw.

      • burythenuts

        GAH!

      • romanesco

        He appears to have idealized his own image.

        • Juicer77

          Or idolized it.

    • Agreed. Minus the mustache. It also reminds me of Jim Warren’s artwork.

    • QbirdSP

      Bury – did you get my PM?

  • Elclectic Saturday to all.

  • Jimmy3

    Anyone up for pictionary?

    http://www.pinturillo2.com/

    Room #9
    pass: offtopic

    • Jimmy3

      need more ppl

    • Jo

      Game is mental, also in a strange language, will figure it out.

      • Jimmy3

        click on the british flag for english

        • Jo

          Got it, game on.

    • Jimmy3

      thanks for playing.

  • want to know what the OSA brat sounds like? ….here’s Jenny Burpee shlocking some skin care product…

    https://youtu.be/8AqagAY1kAs

    boy, is she not going to like my feature photo of my next blog!

    • Ella Raitch

      ghastly…she is described in the Irish Star as TV executive – that’s like calling the janitor a sanitation consultant

      • Mockingbird

        My favorite is calling a Scientologist who went to prison someone with vast legal experience ! 🙂

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      What’s that black machine in the background, sitting next to a telephone? A telex machine? 🙂

      • old school typewriter

        • pic

          • Mockingbird

            That is the telephone and typewriter I remember from my house in the seventies ! Man Scientology sticks with retro !

            • MostEthicalPimp

              I have the similar stuff in different colours. Great now I have to ask myself if my love of retro is part of my Cult Brain Washing thanks! Since I just noticed that this acommon to many Scientologist “a love retro 50s stuff.”

            • anoni81b4u

              I have the Black phone already … do not want the type writer!

            • MostEthicalPimp

              Philistine

            • Intergalactic Walrus

              That reminds me – there is an artist named Regina Mamou with an installation consisting of e-meters & balloons. It sounds like the perfect metaphor for the CO$ and it’s current condition:
              “Mamou showcased her work Eventually on Bryant’s balcony wherein, over the course of a day, helium-filled balloons were attached to e-meters; as the balloons deflated, the piece
              slowly transformed.”
              (refresh)
              https://instagram.com/p/6ykyDhIqS9/?taken-by=reginamamou
              https://instagram.com/p/6ykZyaoqSZ/?taken-by=reginamamou

    • MostEthicalPimp

      Notice the negative body language when she says something positive. Shaking her had as if to communicate a “no.”

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Radar Online: “Burpee said that “there’s definitely things that she told me” about Carrey “that I will need to speak to him about, that I will need a resolution on… ” Sounds like she’s is fishing for a book deal à la Faye Resnick.

      • she’s obviously a fame whore as well as a clam ethics Harpie… here’s another video I came across https://youtu.be/urWWAgEF3xg

        • MostEthicalPimp

          So how much was IAS Patron Status? /Sarcasm

        • Intergalactic Walrus

          How did you find this? HA! She dances like a producer, so that probably portends that she “produces” like a dancer. Remember that “Project Celebrity” list of who LRH wanted to attract into his “church”? Walt Disney, Bob Hope, Ernest Hemingway, Groucho Marx, etc. It’s good to see that they’ve re-set the bar so very low now, as this is the only type of “celebrity” that they can reel/keep in apparently.

          • Ella Raitch

            Awk-ward!

  • Ella Raitch

    Some speculation on ESMB that Den was deliberately used so that a non-Scientologist was present when the body was discovered.

    If any of White’s/Carrey’s family/friends/associates happen to be reading, I hope you can find some peace in the months to come.

    • Tony Ortega

      Wow, that’s bullshit. My original sources, who told me that Cat was a Scientologist, gave me a list of her friends that I tried to track down, both Scieno and non-Scieno. Lena and Den Bradshaw were on that initial list, as non-Scienos. It makes complete sense that they were with Jenny to check out Cat. They were good friends.

      Damn, that is some feverish conspiracy theory stuff going on over there.

      • MostEthicalPimp

        Super Speculator X Here again: Dan and Lena Bradshaw, wouldn’t have had to be in on any conspiracy. They may have come simply because they were asked if they wanted to check up on Cat. If Scientology had remote access security cams then they might have been worried about a body. But wouldn’t have known for sure.

    • romanesco

      That would presuppose someone knew there was a body, in which case they would never have gone. Yeah, as Tony said, it doesn’t really make sense.

      • anoni81b4u

        There is some brown stuff on your nose 🙂

  • Juicer77

    It’s morning here in the UK. Will be saying some prayers Cathriona’s family and Mr. Carrey today, for comfort and a measure of peace. I hope the paparazzi stay a respectful distance away. No hope of them just leaving the mourners alone, sad to say.

    • Kay

      Good morning Juicer. I hope the paparazzi keep their distance also. It looks like this poor family is being besieged.

  • EmmaDaoust
  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Yikes! I was just on TMZ and they have this photo of Marilyn Manson. Did the Helnweins turn him into a clam too? It sure looks like he’s sporting LRH teeth! LOL
    (refresh)

    • … from todays CDAN… and Depp’s teeth are looking just as bad

      pic

      • Intergalactic Walrus

        Aren’t Marilyn’s a grill? I thought with meth, the teeth just fall out. Not that MM is not on something. This shot from the Daily Mail reminds me of that pic of a young Tom Cruise w/the messed up teeth.
        (refresh)

        • Depp is looking really, really rough nowadays… the gos is Amber Heard is encouraging to binge drink and drug-up so she can control [and squirrel away] all his money

          • Intergalactic Walrus

            Doesn’t he want to emulate Hunter Thompson? It looks like that is what he’s doing. The marriage was surprising to me though. I have seen Amber in person up close at a red carpet event (back when she was supposed to be a lesbian) and she was very attractive.

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X *** Saturday, 10 October 2015.

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,

    Tuesday 6th: Boston leads SFBay
    Wednesday 7th: LA & Philly scraped in to save the day.
    Thursday 8th : NO SCORE
    Friday 9th : NO SCORE

    Google Doc crashed and was down yesterday for several hours, I panicked and though they had lost all our data and apps! http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencetech/article-3267030/I-felt-great-disturbance-internet-Users-Twitter-vent-frustration-Google-Docs-goes-down.html

    RedX tips & Complaints procedure are included in the google doc under the RedXTips tab.
    Flag the lies, whack a few bait & switch ads : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    F5… La Equis , chipping away by Hamtaro, flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/14292777922/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Juicer77

      Smacked them all. Today of all days.

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    Is it just me or did Cat bear a striking physical resemblance to Jim Carrey’s 2nd wife Lauren Holly?
    (refresh)

    • Juicer77

      Yes, the features are very similar.

    • Ella Raitch

      The golden shower is an old story…

      • it’s the deliberate juxtaposition that amuses

  • Ella Raitch

    Ah – where is new post? I’m withdrawing here

  • AutmnWinds

    Good reporting and a great job with connecting the dots Tony. Much more so than other organizations that are covering this story. Allison Weiner deserves a nod too, good interviewer and she’s just plain nice.