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John Coale, Greta Van Susteren, and the miracle of Scientology drug technology: A meditation

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We’ve posted here a remarkable photograph of a man named John Coale, who was one of the few human beings in the stands at a notorious baseball game held recently in Baltimore, Maryland.

The game, played on April 28, was the first in Major League Baseball history that had no fans in attendance; ticket holders had been told not to come to the stadium while the city was still experiencing unrest during protests over the death of a man named Freddie Gray at the hands of Baltimore police. The Orioles jumped out to a 4-0 lead and eventually won the game 9-2. Journalists who covered it said it was one of the strangest events they’ve ever witnessed.

 
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Coale managed to get a photograph of himself in the otherwise empty stands at Camden Yards because he’s a member of the Maryland Stadium Authority’s executive board. And that’s where we recently sent a message to him, and confirmed with the Authority that our message did get to him.

Why were we sending Coale a message? Well, for a number of reasons. Let us explain.

We were very interested when a profile of Coale appeared on April 12 in the Washington Post.

“A retired, once-flamboyant trial lawyer who made millions off the tobacco wars of the 1990s, Coale is using his private jet to ferry [former Maryland governor Martin] O’Malley around early nominating states as the still largely unknown Democrat weighs a long-shot presidential bid,” said the article. The piece also noted that Coale has favored both Republican and Democratic candidates with his support in the past, and that his friendship with O’Malley goes back many years.

Coale, in other words, is a well known attorney who likes to use his money to influence politics behind the scenes. He also happens to be married to Greta Van Susteren, the Fox News host. They are both longtime Scientologists.

We were disappointed that the Post ‘s otherwise very good piece left out a really interesting recent anecdote about Coale. On February 27, Washington Examiner reporter Eddie Scarry was covering the Conservative Political Action Conference, the annual confab that draws conservative political hopefuls and the press that covers them. In a series of tweets, Scarry said that while he was at CPAC he introduced himself to Coale, who then pulled Scarry “close to his face” and berated him for criticizing Scientology in print.

 
That surprised Scarry, who doesn’t write about Scientology. But he figured Coale must have been reacting to a tweet Scarry had put out. In the tweet, Scarry said something about New York Times columnist Joe Nocera writing about Alex Gibney’s film Going Clear and admitted that he, Scarry, was looking forward to seeing the film.

So for merely expressing that desire to see Gibney’s movie, Scarry got a face full of John Coale dressing him down at the CPAC gathering in February. We have a feeling that Coale in full intimidation mode is something to see.

That anecdote tended to cut against the Post ‘s profile, which played down Coale’s affiliation with Scientology: “Coale said that his religious beliefs don’t drive his politics and that O’Malley ‘didn’t seem to give a hell’ when he told him about them several years ago.”

The Post generally gave Coale’s Scientology involvement a pass, even though Coale’s Scientology history is actually pretty fascinating.

Back in 2009, Gawker’s John Cook wrote a great piece about Coale, who at that point was running Sarah Palin’s political action committee. Cook had dug up a 1986 Scientology document which showed that Coale had proposed a really clever and somewhat underhanded way for Scientology to increase its influence in Washington.

The language in the document indicated that Coale was well aware that Scientology, given its reputation, couldn’t be open about its aims, and needed to take a more subtle approach…

One of the main objectives which we have been working towards is to create a group which could be easily identified by Scientologists without involving any blatantly Scientology terms (such as “dianetics”), and which is general enough to allow for participation by non Scientologists as well.

The name for the group Coale came up with was pretty clever: Freedom, Liberty And Good Government Political Action Committee, or FLAGG PAC.

Non-Scientologists would see a patriotic name, but Scientologists would hear an echo of the organization’s headquarters in Clearwater, Florida, known as “Flag.”

See the genius of it? Scientologists could back politicians that forwarded their interests, and donations could be gathered from people who had no idea they were giving to a Scientology cause.

Alas, Coale told Cook that his proposal was a flop. Only a few people were apparently interested in donating any money, and so it never got off the ground. But the document is still a fascinating look into the way a determined Scientologist thinks. Coale isn’t the only one who has attempted to spread Scientology’s influence through carefully camouflaged front groups — the Citizens Commission on Human Rights, Narconon, the Foundation for a Drug-Free World, Youth for Human Rights and many more are all attempting to do just that with plenty of effort today.

And we know that Coale, at least at one time, tried to do a similar thing for Scientology in the political arena. But there’s so much more to know about John P. Coale and Scientology which outlets like the Post, for some reason, never get around to asking, and we just don’t understand why.

And that’s what our message to him was about.

The Maryland Stadium Authority confirmed for us that our message, asking about L. Ron Hubbard’s amazing drug technology, was delivered to Coale.

Sadly, we haven’t heard anything back from him. It turned out that the day after we messaged him, Coale went in for open heart surgery. But he’s doing better now, as you can see, and so we thought we had waited a suitable amount of time before going ahead with this story.

 
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Coale is looking like he’s recovering nicely. But what we wanted to ask him about was another procedure he had done as a Scientologist. According to Scientology’s own Source magazine, issue 95, Coale completed an audited level called “New OT IV” in 1995.

Last year, with the help of Scientology tech experts Claire Headley and Bruce Hines, we described the wonders of New OT IV, which are spelled out in the writing of Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard himself.

Although the previous level, “Operating Thetan Level Three,” or “OT III,” gets a lot more attention with its story about Xenu the galactic overlord made famous in a 2005 South Park episode, we think it’s a shame that OT IV doesn’t have its own notoriety.

You see, on OT III you might learn that you are not just one being but actually a collection of many, perhaps thousands, of unseen souls clustered together after being marooned on Earth in a genocidal act 75 million years ago, but on OT IV, you learn that there’s even more work than simply chasing away these “body thetans” or “BTs.” It turns out that your unseen body thetans also have drug histories, and it’s your job to get them all to go through some kind of rehab to dry out.

Now, before you scoff, we want to point out that this is not some religious ritual that we’re dishing on. We know some folks out there get uncomfortable with the idea that we’d describe the intimate details of a “religion” that is no more nutty than the others. (Or so someone always claims, without fail.)

But you’d be wrong about that. This is not religion we’re describing. This is inerrant scientific fact, and any honest Scientologist will tell you as much. When you are auditing New OT IV, you are not supposed to be praying or trancing or otherwise having a transcendent spiritual experience. L. Ron Hubbard described an actual state of reality — you have invisible ancient alien entities inside and hovering around you, and they have drug histories, and, at about $10,000 for the level, it is your task to determine those drug histories and dry out the junkies you have for space cooties.

Again, we will say to the doubters, this is scientific fact presented by Hubbard, and Scientology’s own publication demonstrates that John P. Coale completed this procedure on his way up the Bridge to Total Freedom, and at around the same time he was handling what he called the “mother of all lawsuits” against America’s tobacco companies. (How many of his body thetans were smokers, we have to wonder.)

And Hubbard is ready for your objection that you may not have used any drugs in this lifetime: “Maybe the guy has never taken LSD or Pheno-barbitol in his lifetime and doesn’t have any of that drug actually in his body. But the BT or cluster freewheeling through an incident containing the drug mocks up the apparency of the drug in the body, making the guy feel that he is on that drug.”

Hubbard’s jargon is a bit thick, but you get the idea — your current life is going to be affected by your unseen spirits re-experiencing their drug binges from millions or billions of years ago until you take care of it.

And, he spells out, your body thetans may be carrying around drug residues that we haven’t even invented in this solar system, so be prepared to restimulate the mother of all flashbacks.

Why, we have to wonder, is it not OK to ask John P. Coale, legal champion, stadium executive, jet travel supplier to presidential candidates, about his work putting his invisible space entities through drug rehab? Shouldn’t he have amazing stories to tell about it?

Come to think about it, isn’t treating billion-year-old invisible entities for drug abuse the kind of thing that ought to get some ratings on Fox News?

And we know just the host to put it on. According to Source magazine, Greta Van Susteren completed New OT IV in 1992. Her body thetans have been clean and sober for more than 20 years now. Isn’t that Emmy material?

At the least doesn’t she, and her husband, have the obligation, since they’ve completed Hubbard’s miracle cure, to warn the rest of us that what’s holding us down or harming our potential are the hits of super-outer-space blue meth our invisible E.T. passengers are still hopped up on, millions of millennia after doing them?

Come to think of it, doesn’t that explain Hannity?

 
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Lori Hodgson on the airwaves

Lori Hodgson will be talking about the way Scientology ripped apart her family today at 5:00 pm Eastern on WPIC-AM 790 in Pennsylvania.

 
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BOOK NOTES

 
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NEW: Check out the interactive map to our ongoing tour.

We didn’t get a chance to include photos in our book, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely, so we’re posting them at the Underground Bunker. We’ve created a dedicated page for them, and we hope you go through them all, then come back here and tell us your thoughts!

Copies of the paperback version of ‘The Unbreakable Miss Lovely’ are on sale at Amazon. The Kindle edition is also available, and shipping instantly. Isn’t technology cool.

 
Our appearances…

June 11: New York City (with Paulette Cooper) We’re keeping the venue on the down-low at this point. If you’re interested in coming to this unique event — Paulette in New York talking about Scientology where her story began — drop us a line so we get an idea how many are coming.

June 20: Chicago (with Christian Stolte) The Annoyance Theater, 5pm: This event is SOLD OUT.

June 22: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper) Toronto Public Library, 40 Orchard View Blvd, 7:30 pm, sponsored by the Centre for Inquiry-Canada
June 23: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper) The “Getting Clear” conference

June 28: Clearwater, Florida (with Paulette Cooper) Clearwater Public Library, 2 pm

July 12: Washington DC, Center for Inquiry

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on May 27, 2015 at 07:00

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SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

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  • Pierrot

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    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,
    Again! No results from our Boston complaints. Good flagging in Boston, Sac, MacAllen, Brownsville & Seattle.

    Thanks to the complainants and RedXers, keep on the pressure! There are now 43 live ads in Boston!
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    F5… Cat Horns enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX,
    and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15588511652/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Miss Tia

      Morning Pierrot!

      • Pierrot

        Morning Tia

      • Eclipse-girl

        Good morning, Tia

        • Miss Tia

          Morning e-girl! 🙂

    • Eclipse-girl

      good morning Pierrot

      • Pierrot

        Good morning Luna.

  • Sookie Sookie

    Bernie Sanders, Hillary Clinton, Martin O’Malley

    The field narrows…

    • Observer

      Who says someone “didn’t give a hell”? What does that even mean? Idiot.

      • Miss Tia

        yeah, i never EVER heard that phrase before!

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        Which one of them said that Obs? Sorry, I stopped keeping up with idiot politicians awhile back. In my mind, they all make promises they don’t keep and lie to get to where they want to be.

        Now give me a politician that will stand up to Co$ and I will reevaluate my position. 🙂

        • Observer

          In the article Tony quoted Coale as saying that O’Malley “didn’t give a hell” about Coale’s being a Scientologist.

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Definitely need more coffee. Thank you.

            Hey John, he “doesn’t give a hell” because you’re flying him around in a private jet you moron!! You think he’s going to give up his sweet ride because, deep down, he thinks you’re a nut-bag? Nah, as long as he’s benefiting and not being affected, he’ll let you bask in your crazy.

            Let the stain of Scientology get on him in public. That attitude will change fast. What’s the old saying for politicians: Never wake up with a live girl or a dead man. Now you can add: or a Scientologist. 😀

            ETA: I am sure I got that saying wrong, but you get the idea. 🙂

        • Vaquera

          Edwin Edwards could attempt yet another comeback by running on an anti-Co$ platform.
          “The only way I can lose this race is to be caught in bed with a live boy or dead girl.”

          • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

            Good lawd, I hope not. 😀 Although he couldn’t do a worse job than our current Governor is doing.

      • shasha40

        He’s a idiot , you got it right . 🙂

      • richelieu jr

        Perhaps I can be of help: Certain fundamenatllist Christuans (though, to be fair, they do tend to avoid saying ‘Hell’ as well) avoid sayind ‘damned’ or ‘damn’ because they feel it is ‘curding’ (inthe sence of throwing an evil spell) and condemning someone to be Hubbard’s backscratcher in Hades. ‘Darn’ is the most obvious outgrowth of this silliness.

        The fatuous BT Bus has grown so used to wheedling contributions out of rubes (and doubtless dinner with the Braniac Palins) that he knows not to let slip something that might close the doors to the Born Again, Right Wing Finance Machine.

        I mean– he’s a Scientologist, not STUPID!

  • Simi Valley

    Greta has received a number of tweets recently about her and John Coale’s connection to Scientology that she conveniently ignored. And speaking of John Coale, I remember him on his OT III at AOLA in 1986 when I worked there as “NSO” (non-Sea Org).

    • Simi Valley

      From truthaboutscientology.com:

      • Tracy Schmitz

        and how much did this all cost? because gosh knows he couldn’t have found a 10 dollar self help book at the bookstore! shocking how ridiculous people are isn’t it.

      • Anonymous

        The details contained within the http://www.truthaboutsceintology.com website regarding the auditing / training completions of individual Scientologists are not always comprehensive or fully accurate.

        That aside…it is curious that the last major step that John Coale completed ( at least as far as this site indicates) was the PTS/ SP course and that was in 2005. That course is often assigned (via Ethics) to people who have expressed doubts / concerns about aspects of Scientology and can be a way of rehabbing one’s standing within the church. The course is also subject to fad and often times giant numbers of people are ordered to take the course en mass.

        Thus, there may be something here that indicates John Coale is not 100% on board the Miscavige choo choo train. It may also be true that portions of his actual involvement with Scientology are simply missing from this site and that he is still fully active.

  • Observer

    I seem to recall hearing that people are pressured to do OTIV immediately after OTIII, presumably to keep them from having time to think about just how lame the Wall of Fire really is. If OTIII seems stupid, I guess it’s just because of all the high BTs.

    • richelieu jr

      It is no coincidence that from that point on you have to self audit, in a locked room,in the dark.

      This is to keep from laughing your ass off (or being laughed at by auditors) once you get a glimpse of what a pratt you look like.

      Even the materials have to locked up in secret lest their laughing be heard by passers-by or the unfortunate dupe, oops! “Preternaturally Gifted OT” themself..

  • Don’t bogart that BT my friend

    Pass it over to me

    • richelieu jr

      And speaking of Bogart, you know how to call a BT, don’t you?

      • From the Vasty Deep?

        • richelieu jr

          Nope, you just put your lips together and — blow… a goodbye kiss to your kids’ educations, your savings, self-dignity and respect from your community!

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      sorry, my friend, but it’s puff-puff-restimulate-mock-enturbulate-pass. besides, we pass the dutchie b.t. to the left-hand side first 🙂

  • SarahDB

    When I hear about OT III and up, I always remember Hana Eltringham and her migraines and how distressed she was that she couldn’t find any BTs. Hubbard just told her to do more auditing. So glad she finally got free.

    • richelieu jr

      Don’t forget about the invisible swards and spears she had to extract! Otherwise it just sounds SILLY somehow!

  • John P.

    It strikes me as odd that someone as successful as Coale wouldn’t be proud to be affiliated openly and publicly with “the world’s fastest growing religion,” especially when its beliefs are rooted not in primitive myths originated in pre-literate civilizations but in modern 20th Century science, discovered by a man who was a nuclear physicist. Oh, wait…

    Incidentally, despite the fact that we have similar names, I wish to make it clear that I am not in any way connected to John P. Coale. The fact that we both have jets is purely a coincidence. The fact that we have never been seen in the same place is irrelevant. Those of you who have met me in person know I look nothing like the guy in the picture. And I despise (most) lawyers.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Knowing that you and he are not affiliated at all, as I was reading, it made me sick to see “John P. Coale”

      Do you think you can get him to change his middle initial or the spelling of his first name. You’re the only John P., all else are just posers.

      • richelieu jr

        “You’ll notice there is no ‘P’ in our ‘ool’.. Please keep it that way…”

    • richelieu jr

      Jum. P, John P.?

      😉

      • Stephanie Loving

        I’m waaaay behind Richelieu (due to “life” issues). So I’ve been catching up on lots of old posts. Can I say you just CRACK ME UP? You are one smart cookie with an incisive yet hysterical punch to your comments. I love a smart person making insightful (yet funny) comments. I’ve got other UB posting faves too … almost too numerous to iterate, we have the greatest commenters and minds here at Tony’s place. You are definitely one of my favorites to read … in my top 10. Thanks R.Jr.

        • richelieu jr

          Wow, Stephanie, thank you. That was very kind…

          I sometimes worry that either:

          A) Nobody really bothers to read my comments all that closely, so I have to use myself,

          OR

          B). When you view is just so off kilter that nobody thinks is funny anyway, and I might as will amuse myself so

          Thanks for you comments. Welcome aboard, and I am glad you enjoy the ride.

          (PS: As some here may recall, I used to worry that people would only be seeing all the mistakes in my English, which I hadn’t used very much.

          So many people, chief amongst them Howdy and JP Capitalist (what a pair, huh? Not so different as you light think, actually….) were very kind and (perhaps regrettably in retrospect) gave me the self-confidence to act like an ass and basically waste all of your time…

          I don’t know if you were here when Google shut off links to the site because of supposed impropriety and obscenity (obviously complaints put there by the church

          • Stephanie Loving

            Never stop commenting and posting! I read (as I’m sure is the case with most Bunker readers), all the comments with keen interest. I don’t skim. I get in there, ears wide open. ;o)

    • Tracy Schmitz

      exactly! why not be proud and speak out you know the whole KSW and confront and shatter powers! i mean it helps you, them, can help all of mankind why not spread it? so what if the rest of the 99.9 percent of this wog world planet would think your absolutely nuts, defend your faith, MAKE THEM understand and love it, i mean isn’t that one of the duties? isn’t that one of the communication superpowers you now have mr.coale and wife?! perhaps it’s simply he realizes the lesser beings on this wog planet don’t have the 10 grand to throw around (much less the hundreds of thousands of dollars).

      • Jenny Lee de Becker

        there is also of course the “exclusivity side” which will appeal to these morally bankrupt materialistically wealthy egomaniacs. Sadly because of their money they get close to politicians all the time. We really have no idea how evil it all really is. He is very proud but probably thinks the rest of us are beneath his little “exclusive” tax scam aka CoS

    • Anonymous

      “…I wish to make it clear that I am not in any way connected to John P. Coale…”

      Let’s face it…your cover is blown.

      You’ve been a covert Scientology troll since the first post you ever made here.

      Lol.

    • Cece

      Back in the day (70s) it was just the followers that spouted out about the new technology we had found. We were all so excited to have found it, kinda like falling in love excited. But I see what you mean John, the ones that knew or suspected something not right weren’t smiling and promoting it. The only thing I ever see these days promoting S to the raw public is the TV ads. [The flyers posted on Rinders site are only to already S guys] I have seen more TV ads in last month then in the prior 20 years combined (LA Antenna TV). Over last few months 50% of the persons I meet [lots as I frequent SPAs] have a friend or family member connected and are up on the current news. There really is nothing wonderful or scientific or spiritual about it so even the in scientologists are getting closer to that truth thus they do not promote it. I’ve not received one letter from the church’s ‘International Justice Chief’ inviting me to do the steps needed for me to become a member again. Back in the 70’s into the 80’s we used to call the persons that had left the church (including SPs) with loving friendly calls and offer them free consultations to try to help them with their upsets with the church and/or in life. I once called and got to arrive to AOLA five old OTs (in the Phoenix area IIRC) that had left in the 70’s. I had taken great efforts to get all their PC folders up to date (free) and when they arrived make sure they all got in sessions (free) and were able to get on their flights home in 3 days. They wrote to LRH in appreciation and I received a commendation from him shortly thereafter. The 200 staff we had at AOLA were mostly all loving caring compassionate individuals looking back. The public who arrived and left were mostly all glowing with appreciation and did well after. This was prior to the endless price increases and as the evil starter fluid seeped into the day to day life of a member now they’ve turned to zombies in comparison ~ how could one remain in agreement with it otherwise?

  • Miss Tia

    article based haiku below….last night we had a thunderstorm….i opened the side door before i went to bed—during the storm—and there were dozens of TOADS all over returning ‘home’…..so i was the idiot outside with an umbrella and flashlight in the middle of a total downpour picking up toads and taking them to their designation (backyard ponds) to save ’em the ‘hops’….this morning they’re ‘looking for love’ trilling away and i’m watching them hop all over the yard…..did some toad haiku…..

    Thunderstorm last night
    Toads returning home en masse
    A beautiful sight

    The trill of the toads
    Returning to their ponds for ‘love’
    Happy morning sound

    There’s dozens of toads
    Hopping all over the yard
    Gonna be good day

    Doing what I did yesterday, came up with some haiku whilst reading today’s post……

    Interest to see doc
    Viewed as bullshit article
    John needs to watch it
    #haiku #GoingClear #scientology @johnpcoale @eScarry

    A dem or repub
    John Coale doesn’t care at all
    Hungry for power
    #haiku #scientology @johnpcoale

    Got heart surgery
    Could low level sci do that?
    Or only audit?
    #haiku #scientology @johnpcoale

    Trying to control
    What is seen or heard ’bout church
    Good luck with that guy
    #haiku #scientology #GoingClear @johnpcoale #WatchTheDoc

  • Sounds like John Coales was just “confronting and shattering suppression” with “suppression” being anything that the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology doesn’t like. The fact that his information was basically wrong is par for the course.

    All together now “The organization clearly is schizophrenic and paranoid, and this bizarre combination seems to be a reflection of its founder, L.Ron Hubbard.” Judge Breckenridge, Los Angeles Superior Court

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Was he suing the cigarette companies for NOT getting enough tar and nicotine into people?

    • richelieu jr

      Listen, these folks are too busy grokking the endless verbiage of one Ronald Laffableyet (still taken seriously) Hubbard.

      For them a Tweet is like reading Ulysses by Joyce for a Wog.

      Q: D you know how many characters there are in a Tweet?

      A: Nearly as many as a re left in Scientology! (rim-shot!)

      • chukicita

        Can you imagine if Hubbard was alive today and had a Twitter account? What 140-character pearls of wisdom would be ripped out of their shells and foisted upon his followers?

        • richelieu jr

          Hell, Hubbard needed more than 140 characters just to say, “Fade Up.”

          Beak-face was the Anti-Hemingway more than the Anti-Christ.

  • Andrew Robertson

    Curiously, just before I read the new Bunker post at 11 pm (NZ being 16 hours ahead of New York time) I had the urge to have a glass of wine. But then I realized from my knowledge of OT IV that it was in fact one of my resident alien spirits from Marcabia who had a drinking problem 75,000,000 years ago so I had a glass of apple juice instead.

    Sometimes it’s necessary just to be tough on these murdered space alien souls to keep them off the bottle.

    Andrew

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Have the wine. 🙂

    • GaEagle1023 – Tom

      Aah, you should have a non-alcoholic beer just to tease those BTs Andrew

      • DexterSka

        My BTs are not so easily fooled.

      • Mickman

        As a teen I love to tease my girlfriends BT’s

    • Skabetti

      I believe everyone should take a little time daily to plan which aliens to introduce to their bodies. Wine in a good one.

    • El Con Blubbard

      THAT was hysterical….

      One of my naughty little resident alien just happens to like Vodka and Tonics…

      And Top Shelf Vodka too

      The bastard

      • romanesco

        Mine’s a little more high maintenance. He goes for single-malt scotch, the older the better.

        • Mickman

          After you drink 4 or 5 bottles of singlemalt you begin to look like Greta.

      • GaEagle1023 – Tom

        If your “little resident alien” hasn’t tried ZYR vodka, I highly recommend it. Might make that bastard have a little more ARC for you 🙂

    • Cece

      LOL!

    • valshifter

      Some of them like Macallan whisky.

    • DexterSka

      I wonder which spirit makes me think cigarettes are so awesome.

    • Bryce Byerley

      Yer lucky, my BT’s keep jonesing for something called “Plutonian Nyborg”…

  • HTC

    Just when I think that the whole world has gone crazy I have to remind myself that this is a small group of people (hopefully getting smaller) that buy into this horseshit. After googling Greta I was please to see that her sister is a very well known and hard working psychiatrist.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      I wonder if Greta has been asked to disconnect from sister? She is an “Evil Psych” after all.

      • Pepsicat

        The “rules” don’t apply to her or any other Scilon with celeb connections.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          The Tiny Twat can overlook anything when it enriches his assets.

          Where is Karma? She’s got a huge job with that one.

      • HTC

        I guess boats with whales in them don’t get rocked.

        • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

          😀

          I may steal that for a tweet in the future if you don’t mind?

          • HTC

            but of course

            • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

              Thank you HTC. 🙂

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Hi, Davy, mind if I join you on this apple crate? *Applause!*

    • Tracy Schmitz

      can you imagine what family get togethers are like in that household?!!

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    A couple of things

    It is a joy to read this longer story by you Tony. I hope you are finding your book tour restful and enjoyable.

    As for the true believers like John Coale and Greta Van Susteren, I have to wonder if they will leave by dying or leave by wising up.

    It is hard to find much on the internet about The Process Church of the Final Judgement cult. They seem to be ancient history now. Though they were big about the same time Scientology was at its peak I have never even met someone who said, “Yeah, I made a big mistake when I joined that one”. It would be nice to now how their true believers gave it up. It might foretell something about the end of Scientology.

    • moonnfire

      I don’t know a who lot about the Process church but my understanding is that it was started by some members of scientology. Which makes them a sort of splinter group. I believe that many serial killers have connections to the group. I have heard it come up with regards to the son of sam case, Charles Manson as well as a few others I can’t think of right now. I believe they are a satanic type cult and now have changed their name and have some animal shelter place called Best Friends Animal Society.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Mmmm… an animal shelter cult… that’s the ticket!

      • Peggy oh!

        Gah! To get animals for ritual sacrifice?

        Cults. It’s always worse than you think.

    • Robert Eckert

      They were never “big”. A handful of them stayed together after shedding all the mystical woo-woo from their heads and run a well-regarded animal shelter. One guy who was obsessed with the Processeans and wanted to write a book about them pestered them for years for information but they simply refused to talk about those days.

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        They were very visible locally. They had beautiful girls in black Batman capes who carried books trying to fish in fools like me. These girls could have solved my ruin any day, and I wouldn’t have had to waste my time auditing. S-I-G-H. I really chose the wrong cult. When choosing a cult, a mark just aught to do some research.

        • Techie

          That is funny, Mighty K., in the college I went to there was a flyer from the local mission on the bulletin board, and I remember looking at it and saying to myself “this is obviously a scam”. When a friend started to get involved I sent her a letter once saying “Message to the Child in [name deleted for privacy] – don’t let the bastards get you kid!”. Then she went on staff and turned on the “2D flows” (Scientology flirtation for you never-ins). I was hooked for a 40 year ride. As far as I know she is still working in the Hollywood Guaranty Building and still owes me $2650 for her Dianetics training. Somebody should write a guide to the human body and hormone basics for young men. A lot of bad decisions could be avoided! Of course they would never listen. Youth is wasted on the young.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            I am still thinking about becoming a Raelian. Now there is a cult with something to offer!

        • Robert Eckert

          Where was this? I guess I am being parochial, but the big cults where I was (Ann Arbor in the 70’s), aside from the well known Scientologists, Moonies, and Hare Krishnas, were Moe’s “Children of God”, the Maranatha movement, and Armstrong’s Worldwide Church of God (“heretical” Jehovah’s Witnesses). Too bad I didn’t get to see any Processeans.

          • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

            This was in Toronto, which is really just down the road from you. We didn’t have Children of God, though. We had the Krishna right down the road from the Scientologists on Cult Row which was near our own Haight-Ashbury, which we called Yorkville. The other cults hung out mostly on Yonge Street which is where the offices of Scientology reside today. I don’t know where the Process was but I used to see them on Cult Row, when I was cycling from my mother’s home to the Scientology Offices for my course. They were as intrusive as the Scientologists and would promote their cult to me even while I was on my bike. There was a sex link to the cult and the women in capes who promoted it were beautiful. The Scientology women looked good too, but, looking back, it may have been the beauty of youth. Scientology also had grubby looking guys wearing ties promoting. Add on a thousand mile stare and it was truly creepy. Hubbard was a helluva cult leader. Nobody remembers Robert DeGrimston today, while L.Ron is the subject of websites, books, movies and I am waiting for the L.Ron video game.

            Quick Edit: I have never heard of the Maranatha movement or the Worldwide Church of God until now.

            • Robert Eckert

              The Maranathas came out of Kentucky and I hung around them for a while, never attracted to their fundamentalist version of Christianity but finding their enthused fellowship to be heart-warming: then of course they imploded with charges of abuse and corruption, though I was surprised a couple months ago to find an article about a surviving branch.
              Worldwide Church of God, though, was actually of historical importance. It started as the Radio Church of God and pioneered broadcast evangelism. Their leader, Herbert Armstrong, went beyond Jehovah’s Witnesses in building a detailed translation of Daniel/Ezekiel/Revelations prophecies into current events, and was never troubled when his predictions failed to come true, coming up with new excuses. One of my friends was a born-in and had an issue #1 of their magazine, Plain Truth, from March 1933 with a screaming red headline A GREAT WORLD DICTATOR IS ABOUT TO EMERGE. This might seem an impressive prediction, since Hitler would shortly become chancellor of Germany– until you read the sub-headline, Will it be Mussolini, Stalin, or ROOSEVELT? Armstrong did manage to adjust, depicting the Third Reich as the “Assyria” of the Bible, which was bound to conquer England and then America– oops, well after Hitler’s reported suicide, Armstrong revealed that Hitler had been smuggled to Antarctica in a submarine and would re-appear, startling the world (as the Beast which suffered a fatal wound and yet recovered), and then as years went by with no Hitler, he came up with a calculation proving that 1975 was definitely, absolutely, for sure this time the end of the world– after which he explained his slight miscalculation by apologizing because he “forgot to account for the years of Nebuchadnezzar’s madness”; some of his church started to drift away, and Herbert sputtered out some more nonsense, and atoned for the failure of those prophecies by finally dying, after which his cult broke apart in angry schisms, one branch shedding apocalyptic thought altogether to become what appears to be a no-nuttier-than-usual generic Protestant denomination.

            • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

              Hi, Robert. Thanks for the thoughtful reply. Like so many of us, I have written my book on growing up with Scientology. It is called From Moses to L.Ron.

              I dug up what I had written about the cults in Toronto several years ago after doing some research and mining the memories of friends:

              “In Toronto we could join followers of the Hare Krishna, the Maharaja Mahesh Yogi (who had the Beatles as disciples) the Mahari Ji whom I remember only as a chubby little boy whose followers recruited at my university, The Process Church of the Final Judgement, People’s Temple, the Solar Temple, the Unification Church (also known as the Moonies) and I am sure many smaller ones. They were all around preying mostly on freaked out hippies. Hubbard had a lot of competition.”

              No question. As a very young man, they were all around us. They seemed so freaky that it was hard to understand why anyone joined, but we did.

      • The early days of “The Process Church of the Final Judgement” were described by a noted sociologist of religion, William Simms Bainbridge in a book dramatically entitled “Satan’s Power” https://scicrit.wordpress.com/2013/12/27/satans-power/ (the publisher thought it would increase sales).

        Bainbridge’ describes his undercover participation in CofS ‘training’ (including the strange hallucinations he suffered during TRs) and then takes up the story of the Processeans which he observed, in person, for a number of years.

        Unfortunately, Banbridge used (transparent) pseudonyms to describe Hubbard and Scientology, so critics did not notice it. The book fell out of print and is now so rare and expensive that you can’t even find a scan online.

        If anyone has a copy of this tragically neglected work (or a scan) please contact me here https://scicrit.wordpress.com/contact-us/

    • Techie

      Maybe we will find out more about this on the TV show starting on NBC tomorrow about Manson, “Aquarius”. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt3768572/ Or maybe not, it seems to mostly be a detective/mystery show.

  • JMasiulewicz

    Ugh. Seeing this listing in the Winning Writers newsletter turned my stomach.

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Everything with them is “highly recommended.” I wish just once someone would ask “Highly recommended by who?”

    • Miss Tia

      ooooo…..this contest might be ripe for some J&D!! basically just write up OTIII and submit it! HAH!

    • Tracy Schmitz

      uh oh! i see some NEWLY DISCOVERED MOST POWERFUL OT level information coming out soon! where are we all at now? OT LEVEL 25? 30?…

      • One Human

        It depends, how much money ya’ got?

    • Tracy Schmitz

      on a serious note, who and what kind of messed up person wouldn’t see hubbard’s name on this and flip out and freak out?! and duh! not enter this “contest”.

    • JMasiulewicz

      I’m wondering if they are giving away actual prize money or if the prize is in course credits.

  • Graham

    Meanwhile, here in the UK it’s Day 8 of ‘TUML Oxfordshire Tour 2015’ and we’re back in the centre of Oxford, in Logic Lane.

    First, let’s word-clear LOGIC:
    1) Reasoning conducted according to strict principles of validity.
    2) A set of principles underlying the arrangement of elements in a computer so as to perform a specified task.
    3) That which has to be abandoned before undertaking a study of Scientology.

    Logic Lane runs through the middle of University College. The Poet Shelley attended University College before being expelled from Oxford for having the audacity to publish “On the Necessity of Atheism”. Over a hundred and fifty years later Miscavige’s wife, the homophonously named Shelly, was banished from Hemet for having the audacity to publish a workable Org Board.

    • SarahDB

      Thank you Graham! Logic Lane looks peaceful.

      • Graham

        Very peaceful- yet walk through the arch and you’re in High Street, one of the busiest roads out of town.

    • Scream Nevermore

      Been there. Lived in Banbury for a while, so used to wander around Oxford when it was sunny!

    • aquaclara

      I’m enjoying the Oxford tour immensely. Thank you for sharing such gorgeous pics.

  • Skabetti

    Heart surgery? With a DOCTOR? At a HOSPITAL? Using ANESTHESIA? I’m simply overcome with wonder at why an OT-IV can’t cure his own heart ailments.

    • One Human

      I sense a Purification Rundown in his future.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      or his weight!

  • richelieu jr

    Strange, I was under the impression that a “billion year-old invisible entity” ran Fox News in the first place.

    One with right wing views and a grating Australian accent.

  • richelieu jr

    I’ve often wondered how man BTs VanSusteren had removed from her face to get it to freeze in that strange rictus..

    • Miss Tia

      and why was such an ‘OT’ unhappy with her original face? shouldn’t dianetics had helped her with that? just like cruise keeps wearing shoes with lifts—showing that dianetics hasn’t cured his insecurities about being short and travolta wearing a hair piece……

      • Tracy Schmitz

        or alley’s weight (or coale’s for that matter) or miscavige’s smoking addiction or so and so and so and so and the list goes on and on and on.

        • Miss Tia

          of course they wouldn’t consider miscavige’s smoking an ‘addiction’….i think they consider smoking an ecclesiastical matter…..i mean, didn’t LRH say smoking cured asthma?

      • LHS

        Good question! In The Scandal Of Scientology (Chapter 21), Paulette Cooper quoted a woman who said that Scientology gave her larger breasts and curlier hair and smoother skin. So why can’t these other OTs use Scientology for cosmetic improvements?

        (I’ll stick to shea butter for smoothing my skin, thank you.)

  • worstcultever

    Why did John Coale need heart surgery anyway? Couldn’t Tom Cruise just have given him a touch assist?

    Anyway, glad his little Fannie Flagg PAC faltered (apologies to Fannie, who’s an actual cool person – and who come to think of it might have very entertainingly sued their asses .. )

    And if Coale gave that other reporter such a deeply affronted rebuke, just imagine what Tony’s got coming – maybe even the full Jenny (“Nobody gives a f*ck about you!)”

    • Miss Tia

      OR niblet could create a ‘healing humanitarian’ award if you donate $20 million any/all ailments you have are automatically ‘healed’…..

    • Graham

      Tony sure does like to poke the hornet’s nest!

    • Dr_Orpheus

      Touch assist is more of a Travolta than a Cruise thing.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      exactly! shouldn’t a high level OT be immune to any and all physical issues by now?! oh wait, don’t tell me either 1) he pulled it in somehow or 2) all those courses and money over the years that ONLY the possibility and promise of no physical ailments can be expected? ridiculous beyond ridiculous actually!

      • I think that a gradual retreat from objective goals is built into Scientology.

        In the process of ‘advancing’ through the teachings of Scientology, ‘spiritual’ benefits which can only be understood with reference to Scientology doctrine are are gradually substituted for the objective, testable promises (e.g. improved eyesight, or a perfect memory) which originally drew the member in.

        People Join Scientology expecting that it will improve their lives. Either they leave when it becomes apparent that this is not happening, or they lose perspective and celebrate the ‘achievement’ of untestable, faith-based ‘benefits’ (e.g.’being at cause’) instead.

        This explains how a man who was promised mastery of Mass, Energy, Space and Time does not see anything odd about the fact that, years later, he needs heart surgery. His physical illness is now unimportant to him compared to the conviction the he now posses intangible benefits like ‘greater certainty’.

        • Tracy Schmitz

          great reply and post! thank you once born! “greater certainty?” yeah, greater certainty that what you were promised AND paid big bucks for doesn’t work and never will!? one wonders if he and greta are surrounded and friends with fellow culties because i dare say if ANYONE was told this (i.e. the information about scientology and what it promised, the questions i asked and you replied to EVERY SINGLE PERSON would know they are literally brainwashed and/or insane). how in the world can you believe in something that you are promised, pay big bucks for it, it doesn’t happen and never will and you STILL think it “works” how does it work? who knows “working and things working” might have a different definition in the cult then the rest of the entire world has!.. would be awesome (and it’s necessary) to see someone confront the 2 with the basic facts of all this. course it wouldn’t do any good i know.. oh yes, let me not forget the whole premise in the first place. “your a human being who is paying big bucks and promised you will have mastery of MEST!” let’s all just ponder that utterly RIDICULOUS ABSOLUTE RIDICULOUS B.S. INSANITY NONSENSE! and not only will you believe in it, you will pay big bucks for it, it doesn’t ever happen but you know more then others? HUH?

          who knows maybe all of us never in, that all the high level OT and superpowers and MEST promises were just how should i say ” analogies or possibilities?” kind of like in other religions (well real ones that is) have scripture and stories and what not, that those in the particular religion don’t really believe or follow but yet they still believe in the religion and it overall?

          • The same thing happens in respectable religions. I was once present at a healing service, performed on a gravely ill person by a Christian priest.

            This is the first thing he said to those present “this will not make her better, but it will prepare her spiritually for what is to come”.

            Once, years ago, when people took their religious belief more literally, a ‘healing service’ would have promised just that. If it failed, the Priest would have given an explanation on the lines that in this case, ‘healing was not God’s will, and we have to accept His judgement’. This is a thought-proof argument, because there is no way to test it.

            This change seems to natural one. At the onset new religions have to promise something compelling to establish themselves. Once they have done so, they moderate their more outrageous claims. This is often by ‘explaining them away’ in the manner described above., so as to retain the original doctrine.

            Uniquely, Scientology has never moderated its wilder claims (e.g. freedom from physical illness). These promises are still made to beginners. However, the longer Scientologists ‘progress’, the more objective promises are transformed in to untestable ‘spiritual’ benefits via thought-proof arguments.

            By the time the CofS pull this switch, the Scientologist is already a long-term member who understands that what they have learned in the ‘higher’ levels is deadly secret. No outsiders know that this change has taken place.

  • Pepsicat

    Pulling someone close and berating them…sounds scientological to me.

    • LHS

      I believe they call that a Severe Reality Adjustment. *eye roll*

  • Dawn G

    John Coale doesn’t sound like a very nice man.

  • LongNeckGoose

    I’m sorry to hear O’Malley’s name mixed up in this mess. I heard him on the radio a few weeks ago and he made a favorable impression. I was happy to see a younger man running for the Democratic nomination. Although Reagan hadn’t been diagnosed yet, it was pretty obvious to many of us that he was “losing it” especially from 1984 on. It would be a good thing to have a Democratic candidate who isn’t pushing 70 (Clinton, Sanders, Biden & Brown). I thought maybe O’Malley was that guy, but if he’s hanging with John & Greta, I’m not impressed.

    • Juicer77

      O’Malley was virulently against slot machines during the election against Robert Ehrlich several years ago. Suddenly, O’Malley becomes Governor and what do we have in downtown Baltimore? A big ol’ shiny casino, causing no end of traffic troubles during its construction. Multiple casinos have sprung up now in Maryland (Perryville, Arundel Mills, etc.) Our city school systems still suck, by the way.
      He’s a flip flopper when convenient, like any politician.
      He did not win any points with me when he walked through Baltimore right after the riots making a presidential stump speech offering ZERO solutions or applicability.
      He looks good in a suit, I’ll give him that.

      • LongNeckGoose

        Good to know. Thanks.

  • Scream Nevermore

    I fear this is using up resources that could be used to bring down the Tiny Tyrant – but it does prove the US DoJ can get its finger out when it wants to!

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-32895048

  • Jerseygram

    “Come to think of it, doesn’t that explain Hannity?” Priceless, Tony, just priceless!!

    • Pepsicat

      Nothing explains Hannity.

      • Mockingbird

        Hannity like Limbaugh and O’Reilly are flat out liars who have made tens of millions as puppets spewing barely concealed far right rhetoric that uses loaded language and prejudice to push people toward racism , blaming the poor for being poor , denying that 97%of climate scientists have agreed the climate is being negatively impacted by human actions , lying about economic growth and development under president Obama , misrepresenting the spending done for social programs in relation to the military and corporate subsidies , misrepresenting the fractional reserve banking system and the immense power it gives banks and financial institutions , misrepresenting the policies intended to tax millionaires as affecting millions of people they would not …and more. He is bought by the far right and uses tricks like ambiguous language and flat out lies .

        He and his brethren are to journalists what Scientology’s dirtbag , money worshipping , lying piece of shit lawyers are to attorneys .Only he and the Fox news ” we were racist , poor blaming , xenophobes , corporate whores before it was cool” brethren with their lying to millions and millions of Americans creates an atmosphere similar to Hubbard’s tradition of telling lies 180 degrees from the truth .This makes a group that is polarized and in conflict with one another.And the majority are so confused by the opposite statements by equally trusted sources that they remain politically apathetic and largely inert.

        But the fear mongering and racism Fox news spews may impact the direction of the US and world in a manner with a much larger and more harmful negative impact than the relatively tiny Scientology terrorist mind control cult .

    • Ella Raitch

      A link to explain this reference would be nice for non-US readers (Google on he name no helpful without context) xxx

      • chukicita

        Sean Hannity is a conservative talk show host who is affiliated with Fox News.

        • Ella Raitch

          Thank U – wasn’t sure if there was a particular incident

          • chukicita

            Not sure if there was an incident or just his general douchecanoeness.

      • Jerseygram

        Sorry, Sean Hannity is a not very bright, foaming at the mouth, ultra conservative who has a program on FOX News, the same network on which Coale’s wife, Greta Van Susteren, has her program.

      • Mockingbird

        Google Hannity dishonet , racist , propaganda.

      • Robert Eckert

        The classic take-down of Hannity:

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d_h-fPK6Mfs

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Coale really does not seem to be a very bright bully. In the Internet age, how smart is it to grab an Internet journalist and demand that he “get out of here” for any reason? The fact that Coale did this because the journalist was simply interested in seeing the Gibney documentary makes Coale’s bullying actions appear both dumb and bizarre.

    • PickAnotherID

      It sounds like Coale can’t tell the difference between the writer of an article, and someone commenting on the article. Go figure.

      • Observer

        It sounds like John Cole can’t stand that wogs have the right to free speech.

        • Mockingbird

          Damned degraded beings ! Isn’t it an odd coincidence that big beings always have big bank accounts ? Oh , yeah the ” your worth and influence are directly proportional to your financial status in our oligarchy er plutocracy er meritocracy er democracy , yeah we’ll go with that ” crowd always want wealth sent to the top more and given to the rest of us less .Cut schools , infrastructure and social programs but stay in the forever war and let billionaires and corporations keep more and more as they are the ” upstats” .

          Positively Hubbardian. Narcissistic and lacking empathy , but Hubbard never attained the wealth and power the far right has in America today .No need for a grand conspiracy. A billionaire or twenty and giant bank or corporation can buy more politicians than millions of Americans could dream of influencing.

          Alan Moore has said the world may be rudderless and he could be right but there are undeniably hundreds or thousands of separate, independent billionaires, millionaires and corporations making individual efforts to get every penny they can and pay as little in taxes as they can get away with . And some like Rupert Murdoch and the Koch brothers and Waltons of the world can personally influence the fate and finances of millions of people.

      • Mockingbird

        He is a Scientologist .They have certainty and the power of simplicity. They know they are superior to us lowly dead in the head meat body humanoids. Especially at his financial er spiritual awareness level. You do not have the bank account er rank to dare question him. Now knock it off or Jenny from LA will visit you .

        • Tracy Schmitz

          you nail it yet again mockingbird…..can you imagine how screwed up you have to be to think if your rich, you are seen as a higher being by a “religion” and thus you are! hmm, i’m looking and looking but i can’t find anywhere that whole “religion” holy,humble, good,decent, helping others, believing in something other then yourself stuff? i guess i need to look harder and i don’t know maybe pay someone alot of money to find all this?!

          • Mockingbird

            A small percentage of Scientologists are narcissists who are wealthy and love having their superiority”confirmed by science”.You can call this the Cardone rule .

            • Tracy Schmitz

              you sure it’s not the CRUISE rule? i’ve always wondered over the years and now decades if miscavige has literally talked to cruise 1 on 1 over and over and over ad nauseum telling him “your a special person, your a huge movie star, you ARE superior anyway, you ARE superior even more so now because of the knowledge you have, ONLY YOU with your place in the world can help others, you are a GOOD, NO, great person! blah, blah, blah.. with cruise looking at him with his best “acting intense with his eyes in movies” mode and nodding his head constantly! i’m actually being serious here, i truly wonder if this has taken place countless times over the years.

            • LZ

              I’m sure of it!!!! I think Tom obviously isn’t the brightest bulb in the bunch! He pays millions for somebody to kiss his ass and tell me he’s special. I often wonder what cruise would do if he ever had to choose btw his career or Scientology full-time?!?!

            • Mockingbird

              You may be right .I have heard Cruise is abusive .I have seen Cardone and his wife in their despicable videos .He is a psychopath .And possibly a narcissist .

  • chukicita

    I think it’s super interesting that Coale wanted to create an organization that would cloak Scientology political contributions, complete with a secret code name. Because it’s illegal for a church to be supporting a candidate in the United States.

    Maybe he can blame it on his BTs. Evidently they were all on bath salts.

    • Miss Tia

      Bath Salted Body Thetans, BS BTs! 🙂

    • rom661

      I’m sure their attorneys are smarter than that but wouldn’t it be a pleasant surprise if they stepped on their own ***** and lost their tax exempt status over that. I won’t share any more fantasies with you, promise.

  • Trash anti-theft!

    I put out the garbage earlier this morning, and it was bag week. So I noticed later when an SUV pulled up in front of the garbage, slid open the side door, and .. dropped off another bag .. hmm. It must be Anti-OSA! (We have a three bag limit, but rarely have more than one, so someone was spreading their over-quota around.)

    /switches off the defence grid.

    • And now some guys in a big green truck just took all the bags! Oh, wait…

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        Because of Toronto’s garbage bylaws, I have had to store a ton of garbage under my deck. I am toying with the idea of revealing my identity to OSA so that they can pick up all of my garbage, haul it away and go through it.

      • Roog!

  • wutangclam(‘sup)

    Once again Tony is a veritable Coale mine of information on the Cherch! I didn’t get the Hannity reference either, I did however, catch the Breaking Bad one.

    • Observer

      Think Rush Limbaugh wannabe. I know you’re in Australia, but I’d be surprised if Limbaugh’s infamy isn’t global.

      • wutangclam(‘sup)

        Thanks Obs…. I know who Rush is…..unfortunately.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        can you even fathom if that tool was also a cultie? OMG!

        • Observer

          He’s got his own cult.

          • One Human

            OT- I have always been pretty skeptical about chiropractors, but my ex persuaded me to give it a try when I was having back pain. The first one I was introduced to actually did provide relief and wasn’t pushy about getting me to do repeated treatments.
            A few years later, we had moved to a smaller town, and the ex again suggested I go to her new chiro, as I was having acute shooting pains. As he had me relax with a heating pad prior to an adjustment, the already grating sound of country music playing in his office gave way to Rush Limbaugh. It took everything I had not to go Type III on him.

            • ReallyMGM

              OT: COS mission shares office space with Scion chiropractor in my city. COS is by appointment only.

    • Robert Eckert
  • noseinabk

    Coale backed Palin and O’Malley and is a scientologist. 3 strikes.

    Two years ago our local pharmacy had a sign up about O’Malley.
    It’s so cold outside O’Malley has his hands in his own pockets. That joke could apply to scientology too.

    “At the least doesn’t she, and her husband, have the obligation, since they’ve completed Hubbard’s miracle cure, to warn the rest of us that what’s holding us down or harming our potential are the hits of super-outer-space blue meth our invisible E.T. passengers are still hopped up on, millions of millennia after doing them?”

    As much as the cult invokes KSW and opens endless front groups, those big beings want to remain in the elite little bubble that COS creates for them.

  • El Con Blubbard

    Wow – he is one ugly man. Thanks for the post today Tony O. Awesome work as usual.

    Now every time Greta Van Susteran and John Coastes are written about on the internet – it draws attention to them…and the fact that they support an evil organization that harms people in the name of help whilst hiding behind the religious cloak. Keep writing about them.

    When Scientology does not work for Greta Van Susteran any more – she will be an Illegal PC (a journalist connected to an evil group – the psychs who own Fox News
    When Scientology does not work for John Coates any more – he will be deemed PTS – connected to a journalist (one Illegal PC Greta Van Susteran) who is connected to an evil group – Fox News – who are owned by The psychs…

    you see – Scientology is full on Type III

    The Psychs are everywhere… (and it is us, not the psychs) LOL

    SP’s are everywhere and they see “martians” (BT’s and Clusters) and FBI agents – paranoid about everyone

    Well Done SP’s – a Very Well Done indeed!

    Keep Suppressing Scientology.

    • Simi Valley

      Holy crap! This got me thinking. Lowlier people in $ickentology have gotten cancer and died rather than live out their lives as illegal PCs, but the celeb factor made Greta … and John by association … OK to receive auditing. Of course, how could they have refused all those celeb bucks?

  • Henrik Johansson

    Very interesting this. I however am under the impression that FOX News has been somewhat critical of Scientology in their reporting as Robert Murdoch is allegedly a staunch opponent to Scientology. Have I gotten it wrong? It would be nice though if they would get atleast something right in their reporting!

    • Shanester

      The rumor I heard a long time ago was that the man in charge of Fox News, Roger Ailes, convinced Rupert Murdoch to recruit/steal Van Susteren from CNN in 2002, but Murdoch demanded she be contractually bound never to utter a word about Scientology.

      Fox News has historically been muted about its Scientology coverage — except recently with Megan Kelly.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        say whatever you want about kelly she was at least disparaging scientology and agreeing along with everything mike rinder said. hmm, i wonder how kelly and susteren get along? lol! still though what a bunch of cowards! hiring susteren (because she’s so good and gets such high ratings and popular? really? really?!) as long as she doesn’t speak about scientology?!

        • ReallyMGM

          I don’t watch Fox News as a rule, but I was pleasantly surprised by Kelly’s interviewing skills. She knew her subject; had done her homework. She appeared to have done more than just watched the documentary. So many times the reporters are relying on their assistant’s reporting and notes and it is obvious.

      • ReallyMGM

        After Going Clear the only TV news stories were CNN and Fox, not a peep out of CBS and MSNBC if I remember right.

        • Shanester

          CBS This Morning had a blurb because I remember Charlie Rose talking about it. All in With Chris Hayes interviewed Alex Gibney in the studio.

          • ReallyMGM

            Thanks for clearing that up for me. I would have liked to have seen an hour long Charlie Rose interview with Wright and/or Gibney (or Tony)

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      As Shane mentions below, Megan Kelly recently spoke with Mike Rinder and asked very good questions (color me very shocked). Karen has the videos up at her You Tube channel ‘Surviving Scientology’.

  • Simi Valley

    As far as Greta Van Susteren’s Scientology Service Completions, she does the wifey thing and uses her married name. Elwrong would have approved.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      i’m guessing her folders use her married wifey name too!!

    • rom661

      No particular reason to wonder this, and I’m not making the assumption that this is an inclusive list, but somehow along the way I got the feeling that Greta may not be terribly active in terms of auditing and courses these days. Did her cosmetic surgery remove the rest of her BT’s? God, that was snarky….

  • LZ

    Jeez, for 10k a crack, u and all ur bt’s could have quite a party! Too bad bt’s didn’t have their own bank accounts to go along with their drug problems!

  • Dawn G

    In a better world, a history of backing the Thrilla’ from Wasilla would immediately exclude John Coale from any further political machinations.

  • deathtoallpoliticians

    haiku du jour: mocked up a space high / or maybe the bt’s did / ot iv “junk” rules!

  • Snake Plissken

    John Coale is a typical scientology dinosaur, unwilling to come to terms with the inevitable extinction of his batshit crazy cult.

    Time to man up and face reality, the average age of Scientologists is increasing every single day and the generation that grew up on the internet, is only interest in Scientology for the lulz.

  • Scientologist Don Pearson was also working on a PAC: Association of Citizens for Social Reform (ACSR). It spawned a Florida chapter then seemed to fizzle out.

    Their info page was interesting:
    http://web.archive.org/web/20040806183520/http://www.citizensforsocialreform.org/Pages/StatisticsAndInfo.html

    They clearly knew that direct lobbying by a 501(c)3 like Church of Scientology would be a problem, and that this was a way to bypass that.

    The stats for their Second Chance program in Mexico are confusing, especially the last line:

    “TOTAL COMPLETING THE ENTIRE PROGRAM 0 0.00%”

    100% drop-out rate?

  • Juicer77

    This man would call BS on Coale, Van Susteren and BT’s – straight to their faces.
    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wild_Bill_Hagy

    • deathtoallpoliticians

      a lie. *whack* you are not ready to play the game of faces. valar morghulis! 🙂

      • Juicer77

        (I’m lost on the reference but okay 🙂

        • deathtoallpoliticians

          sorry, my friend. game of thrones – arya stark, the house of black and white, the faceless men and jaqen h’ghar – reference 🙂

          • Juicer77

            I haven’t even started watching Breaking Bad yet! XD

            • ReallyMGM

              OT: Best show ever on TV IMO

  • jazzlover

    Ugh. What a way to wake up. Speaking of which, when the hell is this country going to wake up and find this utter self-entitlement unacceptable? I mean, the political leanings of the richie-rich’s of the world are becoming so jaw-droppingly obvious that it’s turned into a big FU to the rest of us mere mortals. The contradictions that occur within Scientology are plain as day, and should concern all of us. But, in a bigger picture sense, I think the cult has learned its lessons well.

  • Fred G. Haseney

    Re: “The language in the document indicated that Coale was well aware that Scientology, given its reputation, couldn’t be open about its aims, and needed to take a more subtle approach”

    John Coale imagines himself as L. Ron Hubbard reincarnated!

    His “memo,” from the “Poliitcal Action Committee” (“PAC”) entitled, “How Scientologists can take responsibility for and be at cause over the fourth dynamic,” is written in much the same style as LRH wrote “Flag Orders” (“FO”), communications (like his policy letters and technical bulletins) from the Flag Land Base in Clearwater, Florida. He even signs off on the “memo” as such: FLAGG PAC.

    It reminds me of the 1986 horror film, The Fly in which Jeff Goldblum’s character merges with the fly, becoming “Brundlefly.”

    Coale has merged, in his own peculiar way, “Flag” (the East Coast headquarters of the cult of Scientology) with “PAC” (or “PAC Base,” their West Coast headquarters).

    Maybe now, through the help of Tony Ortega, we’re getting a better idea of (a) how powerful that cult is, (b) their influence in Washington, DC, and (c) why the IRS apparently leaves them alone.

    As Ronnie (played by Geena Davis) says to Seth Brundle (played by Jeff Goldblum) in The Fly:

    “Be afraid. Be very afraid”

    Or not.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    May 26, 2015 Washington, DC
    Errata
    Our report that John Coale is recovering from open-heart surgery is slightly inaccurate.
    The operating surgeon, Dr. O. T. Quackenbush of the Mayo Clinic said, in a statement today,
    that, although he did operate on Mr. Coale, he was unable to locate a heart.
    We apologize to our readers, who may have been left with the false impression
    that $cientologists of long-standing have hearts.
    The photo of the empty stadium at the top of the story was, likewise, falsely described.
    In fact, it was a photo of the OT Committee meeting to complete plans for completing Valley Ideal Org.
    All one OTs were present.
    The stadium was necessary to accomodate the BTs.

    In other news, Miss Lovely loves Logic among the dreaming spires, loves Independence in Philly
    and went hiking, fly-fishing and hanging loose in the caboose.

    Collage 23

    • Juicer77

      Miss Lovely, you are a woman of many talents!

  • Racnad

    Has Greta Van Susteren made any comment on her show, or even a tweet, about the documentary Going Clear? I seem to recall seeing a Mike Rinder interview from another FOX show around that time.

    • Ben Franklin

      I don’t think Greta has ever mentioned anything about Scientology in her life. I have never seen it anywhere. It is one of those things she seems to hide.

      • ReallyMGM

        I’ve read somewhere they do have a home in Clearwater or close to Flag.

    • Tracy Schmitz

      nope! interesting how the bigger (well in their minds, in regards to fame and wealth) the culties are, the LESS they speak out and defend themselves and their beliefs even when they all have the media platform to do so. i’m trying to think of a good analogy here, but i’m drawing a blank in regards to a similar example of that whole mike rinder AND MEGAN KELLY interview! a anchor and host on fox news BOTH disparaging scientology (it wasn’t just him!) and kelly and everyone on fox KNOWING that ole greta is in scientology! gosh knows what goes on between those 2 (kelly and susteren) behind the scenes!

  • lmnop

    I would pay to see a conversation about Scientology, Faux News, Hannity, Papa Bear, & the van Susterens amongst Tony Ortega, Jon Stewart and Stephen Colbert, could throw in a few other religions/cults/corporations/whatever too.

    Would be great just to see Tony talk about his book The Unbreakable Miss Lovely with Jon Stewart before he’s off the air…

    • Robert Hammond

      It was good to see Megan Kelly interview Mike Rinder recently. I wonder how that went over with Greta.

      • ReallyMGM

        I thought it was great to see Erin Kelly’s shows on COS followed by Greta’s for those days after Going Clear!

  • Shanester

    It’s always extraordinary to hear about prominent Scientologists who do everything possible to underplay their religion. In Greta Van Susteren’s case, the rumor is that she is contractually bound never to utter a word about Scientology when she hosts her Fox News show, “On the Record with Greta Van Susteren”, a stipulation required by her boss’s boss, Rupert Murdoch, who is on the record himself with negative comments about the World’s Fastest Growing Religion(tm).

    Given John Coale’s recent bout with throat cancer, those knowledgeable about Scientology’s beliefs might wonder how this prominent Scientologist who has traveled so far up the Bridge to Total Freedom could have become so PTS despite his OT powers. L. Ron Hubbard liked to claim that people committing evil acts would develop illnesses related to the part of their body they need for their job, like a writer developing crippling arthritis because he continually wrote vicious and defamatory slander. Or, in Mr. Coale’s case, like a lawyer who depends on his throat to make his case in court. Scientologists might wonder about Mr. Coale’s putative Democratic politics and assume he earned his throat cancer by supporting those haters of freedom of religion. At least that is what the Scientologists I grew up with thought of Democrats. Almost all Scientologists I know support Republicans or Libertarians for office.

    But Scientologists would be happy with anyone who accrued power for them in political circles, so I’m sure Mr. Coale has been getting free passes from the cult for all these years. And, at least, he did support that champion of freedom and personal responsibility Sarah Palin.

    My biggest question is what Scientologists think of Greta Van Susteren’s sister Lise, who is a prominent psychiatrist. It’s clear that Greta and John get along swimmingly with Lise, despite her being an embodiment of evil. This is just a case of celebrity Scientologists being treated differently than the rank and file. My entire family was forced to disconnect from my psychologist uncle, yet Greta brings her psychiatrist sister to the Met Gala.

    Greta had best beware, however, lest she fall out of favor. Look what happened to Nicole Kidman, who was popular in Scientology circles until she was blamed for pulling her husband Tom Cruise away from his mancrush David Miscavige. Then, suddenly, Nicole’s psychiatrist father became a big issue.

    If any time in the future that Greta should falter in her faith, you may be assured that Miscavige will lay it at the feet of her “psych” sister. For now, however, Greta and John can associate with whomever they want as long as they keep seeking underhanded ways to accrue political wherewithal to Scientology and — most importantly — keep donating money to their cherch.

    • Ben Franklin

      “L. Ron Hubbard liked to claim that people committing evil acts would
      develop illnesses related to the part of their body they need for their
      job, like a writer developing crippling arthritis because he continually
      wrote vicious and defamatory slander.”

      Just another example of L. Ron’s rubbish which is not based on logic or common sense but rather pure superstition. Logically any part of the body that someone uses a lot is more likely to get injured, sick, infected etc. For example, a singer is more likely to develop throat problems, a writer is more likely to develop pain on his hands or wrist, a marathon runner is likely to have problems with his legs the more he runs. All these examples have nothing to do with doing anything evil, the body part that is over used eventually get’s stressed leading to injury or potential illness

      • Dr_Orpheus

        I guess Scientologists aren’t in much danger of developing brain tumors then.

        • Ben Franklin

          No, but they are in great danger of going insane.

          • Mickman

            E.G: FoxNews

          • Caleb Windham

            I thought they were already insane.

      • LHS

        Medical professionals have known about repetitive stress injuries for a long time.

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      What an absolutely brilliant comment.

    • scottmercer

      Murdoch hates Co$? That’s just about a textbook example of “the enemy of my enemy is my friend.” (*Rupe would be the friend, not $ci.)

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Very well put, Shanester.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Is it awful of me to really – really – wish that Coale would attempt to get in Tony’s face after reading this? Which he will. If he has political ambitions, however covert and behind the scenes, he will certainly subscribe to a service that notifies him every time his name appears in the Press and online.

    What a fantastic article! Off to re-read.

    PS. Get well soon, Mr Coale.

    • Robert Hammond

      Not awful of you at all, Andrea. Quite wonderful idea, in fact.

    • Skabetti

      If he knew someone tweeted about him, he’s following things closely, I think. I’m going to go back and include his name in my earlier post, then sort of thread it though here today. That will be my evil alien goal for the day, because he’ll have to keep coming back to read. Now, off to teach the babies. We’re doing a play about invader ghosts. They wrote it, ha ha!

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Cunning! 😀 Also, how sweet of your children. I loved my children’s plays.

  • Sejanus

    My space junkies are jonesing for some stuff that doesn’t even exist here.
    So to compensate I hit Banana cream Twinkies with a chocolate milk chaser.
    It puts them into a diabetic coma…problem solved.
    Total cost $4.27

    Greta should thank O.J. for putting her on the map.
    I am sure he would love to thank her …lol

    • wutangclam(‘sup)

      I’m pretty sure all my BT’s just smoked weed and drunk heavily, I see no need to evict them.

      • Bryce Byerley

        Especially if they keep mocking up their own stash…

        • flexible

          HAH!

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Even from all the way over here in the UK I know that Hannity’s BTs are freewheeling like fuck.

  • Tracy Schmitz

    hi everyone! just a few thoughts to lend any mode of common sense, sanity and rationality here about this couple (see notice i didn’t say a couple of so and so!)
    1) being high OT level enlightened in mind and body and spirit? wondering why coale had to have heart surgery in the first place? shouldn’t that never ever happened to such a high OT superbeing?
    2) wondering why the high level OT can’t control his overweight issue?
    3) the fact that at one time he was supporting sarah palin? i wouldnt’ support her to run a bake sale. nuff said.

    • jazzlover

      Gee, I wonder why Miscavige didn’t step up and disallow the surgery to begin with.

    • rom661

      Hi Tracy. Forgive me for being so audacious as to think that I may have answers to your questions, but here goes.
      1) Because OT levels are bullshit
      2) Because OT levels are bullshit
      3 Because Sarah Palin is full of, you guessed it.

      No offensive intended to bulls. They have the good sense to remove the substance from their bodies and not base their lives on it. Thanks.

      • ze moo

        No bovines will ever join $cientology. Real Bullshite {actually, all bovine excrement} has excellent powers of fertilization. $cientology, not so much.

        • scottmercer

          They have audited away their BMs!

        • Missionary Kid

          Shredded copies of $cientology publications do work to hold moisture in mulch.

    • Mockingbird

      Really the double think is achieved by the OT levels .Orwell understood that a person can be so mixed up on a concept that they both know it as one way and the opposite and shift back and forth between each one without seeing the contradiction consciously .Hubbard studied this and gradually induces it more and more as his slaves progress in the Scientology thought reform program . His shifting loaded language is specifically designed for this . As one progresses concepts like “clear” , “OT” , “compassion”and “ethical” shift from.having meaning to meaning anything supporting Scientology . The submission and godlike reverence for Hubbard supplant all reason and guide all thoughts , emotions and behavior regarding Scientology . Totalism in action .

      I wrote on this at my blog in Propaganda by Reversal of Meaning and Scientology’s parallel in nature – malignant narcissism and the Secret of Scientology part one .

  • Open heart surgery? Couldn’t some auditing or a Purification Rundown help?? My my what would LRH say? Probably nothing as long as Coales keep giving them money!

    • ReallyMGM

      I wonder if statin drugs for cholesterol are allowed by LRH. Probably weren’t around in his lifetime, but hey, big pharma.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        if only he could have met up with mr.duggan i’m sure his pharm company would have something for him… oh wait, pharm company i thought that was evil evil? no, money is evil evil! no, we both have money from evil evil? i’m so confused!

        • ReallyMGM

          Since there is some evidence niacin (in low dosages) aids in raising good cholesterol and lowering bad cholesterol, they will have him on quadruple (or more) the dosage.

          • One Human

            He’ll be running around (in circles) in no time.

            • ReallyMGM

              They put my hubby on Niastat once. I thought he was going to run out in the back yard in his underwear at 3am in the winter.

            • One Human

              YIKES!

            • ReallyMGM

              BTW, the dosage of Niacin an endocrinologist or cardiac specialist puts a patient on for lipid control is only around 500mg per day and is monitored every other month or so with bloodwork. COS goes up to 5000mg with no physician monitoring. Absolutely crazy.

            • Missionary Kid

              I did some reading on its usage a while back, and, IIRC, it was pretty much ineffective, especially when compared to other treatments available.

            • ReallyMGM

              I think it depends on how bad your baseline numbers are to begin with. I saw no improvement by adding it to my statin med. My husband had good baseline numbers with good/bad cholesterol but bad triglycerides. It improved with the minimum dose. I saw the new research, but Mayo is still recommending it. But no one should ever take it with out being under a Drs supervision.

          • Missionary Kid

            Subsequent studies, IIRC, found it to be ineffective, or nearly so.

  • Chee Chalker

    He looks like a miserable old bastard…..(insert Greta joke here).
    One can only imagine how Mr Coale will feel about this article. Mr. O’Malley will soon learn to be more careful about whose money he takes.
    Remember everyone, click on Recommend at the top of the comments section! We need people to see this!!

  • Robert Hammond

    Previously posted, but more on Scientology infiltrating politics and attacking science in Chicago: http://www.chicagomag.com/Chicago-Magazine/June-2015/Are-Scientologists-Targeting-Illinois-Mental-Health-Laws/#comment-2047671704

    Feel free to counter the Scion troll in the Discus comments.

    • Juicer77

      Looks like he already packed up his toys and stormed off, whining.

      • Robert Hammond

        What a surprise. So much for confront and shatter tech. The truth wins.

        • Dr_Orpheus

          Be careful! That troll might be using OT powers against you! If you get a head ache or indigestion in the next couple of days, Scientology is undoubtedly responsible!

          • Robert Hammond

            Not too worried about any nonexistent Scientology OT magic powers. If they had any such powers they would learn to think for themselves. So obviously not working.

      • One Human

        He appears to comment rather infrequently, but gets the upvotes from “elle” and Waterhorse.
        Hopefully he or others will make things interesting over there.

      • Robert Hammond

        Actually looks like he’s back up and whining again with an incredible lack of grammar and spelling ability. Not to mention common sense and ability to see reality. Feel free to join the discussion.

    • JMasiulewicz

      I two days I’ll be up in my beoved hometown of Chicago. Think I’ll sit on the curb in front of the cherch and continue my reading of TUML

      • Allie

        Yay. More pix of Miss Lovely.

      • Robert Hammond

        Excellent idea. Be sure to keep your camera handy.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Word Clearing 101

    $cientology: I joined when I thought I read it “retards aging.”
    What was intended in the text, I now discover,
    was that it is mostly “retards aging.”

    • jazzlover

      Or to go one step further: “Retard Saging” 🙂

    • Skabetti

      Bwa ha ha! I can tell it’s going to be another humorous day at the bunker.

  • Mrs. V.

    If he needed heart surgery, is he due for a sec check now? He must have committed some pretty serious crimes to pull that in.

    • ze moo

      He is a perfect candidate for another round in the sauna. I doubt they try the ‘running around a pole for 3 days’ ‘sacrament’ on him. At least not until his heart gets much better. The clams don’t kill the cash cows until they run out of money or piss off DLHDM.

      • Mrs. V.

        I don’t think the sauna would be very good for him, either, at least not for that long with that much niacin.

        • ze moo

          While niacin can be a real trouble maker, all the other vitamins can cause trouble too.

  • ReallyMGM

    OT: Everytime I see Flag spelled with two Fs (FLAGG) I think of Randall Flagg, the anti-Christ character in Steven King’s novel, “The Stand.

    • Frodis73

      Same here! It’s come up a lot recently too.

    • Wogalistic

      I keep thinking of Col. Flagg from MASH. The antichrist is a better description.

      • ReallyMGM

        Oh that’s good too! Good old crazy Col. Flagg.

    • Ben Franklin

      Any time you come across an organization with great sounding words in the title, beware, it could be a CoS front group. Words such as Justice, Freedom, Rights, Liberty etc

      • LHS

        This is why I despise the CCHR so much. Citizens Coalition for Human Rights sounds noble, but their main activity is stigmatizing mentally ill people as violent drug addicts. What about those people’s human rights?

  • rom661

    Ah, a full story by Tony. Not being a jerk. I completely understand what an undertaking the book and the ongoing book tour must be and I’m sure there are not enough hours in the day right now. Just expressing my pleasure at reading the story. Hope the tour continues to go well. And yes, I’m probably a little selfish. But appreciative.

  • Kim Palmer

    “Come to think of it, doesn’t that explain Hannity?” Good thing I was not drinking coffee when I read this. Otherwise I would be having to clean my screen and desk…….

  • ReallyMGM

    I thought it was awful how Issac Hayes died on a treadmill, I assume doing a purif, after a stroke. Will this guy get the same lovely treatment?

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology joke:

    Knock knock.

    Woo’s there.

    • Robert Hammond

      Woo woo?

  • Mockingbird

    I love and treasure the little hints and peaks behind the curtain we get from Tony Ortega on his personal feelings and beliefs. The other day he had the op ed piece on lunkheads that showed his feelings and in interviews lately he has let his hair down a bit and showed his personal opinions. In today’s piece we get the dig at Hannity .And I loathe the far right hate and fear mongering propaganda the shills at Fox news sell everyday . So , this is particularly amusing to me . Someday someone should write a book about Tony Ortega and they should go over all his articles to get a peak under the surface . I find the idea of a never in who studies Scientology well enough to learn many of the implausible truths fascinating .Especially when that person is not in the ” I believe every conspiracy theory I hear” club.

    I was in for twenty five years and had to learn the bizarre truth about hypnosis, thought reform, cultic abuses and narcissists and sociopaths as part of cult recovery .If I was not in I would not believe a hundredth of the truth about thought reform and social psychology. It is so vastly different than how cults and the mind are portrayed in education and media. Now some academics get it right , but they are largely unheeded .

    But to me the question remains – how do you get a skeptical , scientific person to look deep into Scientology and see the seemingly unreal nature of its influence without that person either being a Scientologist or having a loved one in ? I feel Tony Ortega has done this – and then taken on the cult to boot !

    • jazzlover

      To be honest, I don’t ever remember the word “cult” being used during my schooling. However, just plain old observation has done me a world of good. Sometimes it helps to be just a little bit skeptical of media agenda. The old saying “Take everything you read with a grain of salt” really does ring true. To an outsider like myself, Nazis, Manson, Koresh, Jones, Mormons, Moonies, Jehovah Witnesses and Scientology always appeared to exhibit blatant forms of cult behavior including, but not limited to, thought reform.

      • Mockingbird

        Well, just by being at the Bunker and learning about the subjects you mentioned as being linked you show you have learned more than most never ins .For some reason a small few never ins learn and take the time to open their minds .We need more to .

        • jazzlover

          Thank you for the compliment! As I’ve said a few times before, based on the way I think things work in this country (and worldwide), youse guys need more of us guys to care if any change has a chance of happening. So, I try to educate myself, as time allows.

          • dungeon master

            Lol! Wise guy..

  • George Layton
  • aquaclara

    The opening photo of the almost-empty ball park pulled me in. This article, with the accompanying deep dives off to Gawker, Twitter and the Washington Post, shows just exactly how much Scientology has tried to rely on their own connections to lobby Washington. I hadn’t seen the Gawker article before – some excellent reporting there by John Cook.

    I hope Eddie Scarry now DOES write about Scientology. Maybe he’ll start with a link right here to today’s post.

    Now, Coale (I simply can’t call him John P. ) has very strong connections in Maryland, has actively cultivated politicians from the Clintons to governors, and has a house, a yacht and a private jet there. And he sits on an influential board that lets him get into a closed stadium for an epic game in Baltimore. So given what Scientology is trying to do now in Maryland with regard to a certain proposed Narconon property, is there a connection? And where is that garden party pic from?

    I can’t help but think that the scientological lobbying influence covered here has not yet stopped…..and it’s distasteful in so many ways.

    • Robert Hammond

      Just like Paula Cooper was “pulled in” to writing about Scientology after observing the bizarre behavior of friends who had become Scientologists, perhaps Eddie Scarry and many other journalists get motivated to dive deeper into looking at the criminal history and tactics of this organization.

      It was good to see Megan Kelly at Fox News interview Mike Rinder about Going Clear. Wonder how Greta and Megan get along these days?

      • ReallyMGM

        I loath to say it, but Fox News did better anti-COS after Going Clear.

        • aquaclara

          They did indeed. It has had to make for some interesting conversations backstage.

  • Observer

    John Coale criticizing others for having credibility and integrity issues. Too bad they didn’t do a hypocrisyectomy while they were doing the bypass.

    Refresh

    • Ben Franklin

      People living in glass houses should never talk crap about others, John Coale.

      • dungeon master

        Best mixed metaphor of the morning lol!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Or take a crap.

    • jazzlover

      Does Coale have a stake in football too?

      • Observer

        I don’t know.

        • jazzlover

          It takes a megalomaniac to think his/her opinion matters in area outside of his expertise. I just assumed, based on his need to comment, that he is well versed on the subject matter. Silly me. Almost farcical that the guy represents Big Tobacco, and then states the obvious about the NFL agenda in a way that looks down upon it.

          • Observer

            He’s a Homo Novis and is thus qualified to speak authoritatively on any subject and pass judgment on whom he wishes (except Captain David Miscavige, of course).

            • jazzlover

              Major LOL!!!

          • Anonymous

            John was a plaintiff’s attorney…he was involved in suing big tobacco…not defending it.

            • jazzlover

              Obviously, I read today’s post just a tad bit too quickly 🙂 Thanks!

  • stillgrace2

    What a fucking bully. I despise bullies. I am so glad this tweet is getting media exposure. John P Coale needs to stop donating to the IAS and instead buy prodigious amounts of leafy greens to juice and drink. Unhealthy-looking sod.

    • kemist

      He looks a bit like an aging mafia boss in the first picture.

      • stillgrace2

        He does look like he’s a big fan of cannoli.

  • ze moo

    No, Tony, nothing can explain Hannity.

  • Tracy Schmitz

    hi everyone! i’m wondering, could the next step/steps be when everyone speaking out goes on tv or does a media interview that perhaps they should all literally call on those culties, oops i mean those who are in the church of scientology who are well known figures to a debate for the public to see and watch? call them out! dare them!

    • ze moo

      Great idea, but the clams seldom take their heads out the sand. Hell, even the ‘National Spokesperson’ never gives interviews or is seen publicly. It would be fun to watch the ‘communication’ skills of Tom Cruise or John Travolta, but their ‘interviews’ are always scripted.

      • ReallyMGM

        The only news they watch is Entertainment Tonight.

      • stillgrace2

        Take away his script and Travolta would just mumble “joy is the operating principle here” ad nauseum.

      • Tracy Schmitz

        oh, i know OF COURSE they will ignore any “i dare you! let’s debate” call outs. but the facts that such call outs (and their ignores) would i hope be media covered and publicized would be one blow.

  • ThetaTomato

    Years ago when I was briefly dabbling with Scientology I had the chance to get to know Greta and John a little bit. John even rented my truck for about 3 months when I was unable to drive. I house sat for them on a couple of occasions. This was circa 1991 and they used to hang out at the Celebrity Center of DC. Crazy beliefs aside, Greta was a very kind, down to earth person and John seemed ok too. This was before she became a full blown superstar. Of course I was considered one of “them” at the time, I can’t imagine them being so friendly to anyone considered antagonistic to their cherch.

    • StudentOfLife

      I don’t doubt Greta was a nice person. As a never-in, from my business association (Bunkeroo Cathy from Encino figured out who I am and who is the celeb I was partners with, so yes, Cathy…..you were right Cathy, this is my first acknowledgement, lol, well done, I’ll soon give up my anonymity) I have socialized with OTVIII’s (one a famous keyboard player known more for being a celeb teacher of how to master jazz keyboard and well know for his studio work…. not named Chick Corea) as well as been to some social wog recruiting events (once even invited to Kirstie Alley’s home but chose not to go out of self respect for myself). I observed everyone was always “nice” and “social” because they really practice ARC and tone level 4 as much as possible plus they act so open minded about other religions. OT2 told me this morning she still admires Catholicism even though she thinks Hubbard a genius and the best answer man has ever seen as to destroy evil. I remember even other Scilons always praising my UU beliefs and saying that Christianity was totally compatible with Scientology which I didn’t know at the time was a total lie once you know the facts.

      Greta became famous only due to the O.J Simpson trial and frankly, like most attorneys, she was so compartmentalized in her thinking she was a horrible commentator, no real insights, and like the DA Marsha Clark who prosecuted the case, absolutely had no clue as to how the murders occurred in fact and detail. I think an old guy in East St. Louis who I overheard tell his theory of the murders and I were sometimes the only two people besides OJ that knew how the murders occurred in detail. In my RH Donnelly days on the road, after relating my theory in an elevator, I was immediately asked to speak before 150 black men in Mt Vernon Holiday Inn on their way to the Million Man March as to my theory and most of them were convinced otherwise after I spoke that OJ actually did do it but not a single attorney in the media ever figured it out.

      Greta, even objectively, was an airhead regarding her insights as a lawyer, and I was astonished at how her mediocrity was rewarded.with a Fox TV show whereupon she promptly underwent plastic surgery. Even though I find both parties hypocritical and not congruent in their core beliefs (why would corporations want to destroy the middle class, the source of their wealth and power is just one example, which I was glad our John P pointed out), I am amazed at how people with law degrees are some of the most brilliant people in one area of thinking but some of the most blind people to other areas of thinking. What experience do I have? Besides a B.A. in prelaw (Government) I served 15 years in the Reserves, 8 of those 15 on active duty, and I worked in the JAG Department almost exclusively with lawyers very closely. I’m glad I never went to law school even after I was accepted.

  • ScreamingTomato

    So Scientology—or at least one Scientologist—doesn’t care what a politician’s party affiliation is? Right or left, no problem? Really, has the “church” no principles?

    • ReallyMGM

      Many really wealthy people play both sides of the political aisle, from local to national elections.

  • Anonymous

    There is much irony in John P. Coale being involved in the gigantic tobacco litigation which resulted in a settlement of hundreds of billions of dollars…because that industry used (and still uses) many of the same deceptive advertising and pseudo-scientific techniques in its PR as does Scientology, to avoid responsibility for the very real harm their product causes.

    John is a complex person and has been involved in much tort litigation seeking to end abuses by corporate entities which are probably of the type that many on this board would support, including representing the victims of the Union Carbide Bhopal gas leak disaster in 1984. He has also advocated for increased gun control and is on the editorial board of Ms. Magazine (and is the only male member to have ever been on the board.)

    My experience in Scientology showed me that while Hubbard’s politics probably aligned fairly closely with that of the far-right, that is NOT the case with Scientologists in general, nor is it always the case among the more wealthy members of the church. People are all over the map on politics in the church, just as they are in the general population.

    Without diving too far into politics, it might be wise to consider the possibility that many of the folks in politics that present populist ideas to gain favor with large groups of voters are in fact among the most self-interested and dishonest individuals around, especially if one chooses to become familiar with their actions, not their words.

    Hubbard did not invent lying to amass a fortune…that trick is as old as mankind.

    • Bob

      Anon.,Thanks for the info on Coale. Good points.

    • jazzlover

      So what you’re saying is that he’s either a “follow the money” guy, or he’s a “if you’re not part of the solution, you’re part of the problem” guy? I can’t decide which is worse.

      • Anonymous

        I’m saying that moral relativism and cliched / assumed understandings of groups of people (or individuals) are slippery slopes…on which almost anyone can find themselves rolling downhill very quickly (myself included.)

        • jazzlover

          Hey! There’s no room for reasonable attitudes here. We’re ganging up on SciFi whales 🙂

          • Anonymous

            Lol.

    • chukicita

      John must be a complex person, to head up Sarah Palin’s PAC and now be courting a suited Democrat.

      It also seems odd to me that he can give the money he earned representing victims in the 80s to an organization that has been oppressing its own members for more than 60 years.

      Those actions speak pretty loudly to me.

      Scientologists as individuals may have a diverse spectrum of political leanings, but the organization itself has always had specific political goals that align with its internal policy of KSW.

      • Anonymous

        I would suggest that in the corrupt political environment that currently exists, many organizations (and individuals) tend to donate / support (at least publicly) seemingly rival candidates, parties and causes…in an effort to buy a ticket to “the dance” which occurs after an election. This is true of Scientologists (and elsewhere.)

        I worked with one very large, very well respected public corporation where significant sums of money were donated (legally) to the campaigns of Jessie Jackson and George (H.W.) Bush in the same presidential elections. It is hard to imagine two more polar opposite candidates, yet the risk of being left out of the post-election “dance” by publicly betting against the wrong prom king (or queen) was considered just too great.

        It is cynical and frightening…it is also common to the point of banality.

        • chukicita

          Believe me, I understand the interpretive dance of political cognitive dissonance that motivates organizations and individuals to make contributions that are seemingly at odds. Making a contribution to and setting up a PAC are kind of different to me.

          The most important element to me is that John P. Coale, who worked with Earle Cooley behind the scenes on Scientology’s tax pachinko machine and labyrinth of money-funnels, who is married to a Fox News mouthpiece, and who is evidently concerned enough about his individual positioning among a field of candidates to enter the interpretive donation dance, knows better.

          He cannot NOT know about the abuses of Scientology, Inc. And yet he continues to support it.

          To me that outstrips any good karma he might have earned being paid to do his job defending the victims of Bhopal. Perhaps he is a complex person but his most celebrated actions show me a person who is, at the end of the day, only acting in his own interests.

          • Anonymous

            I am not John’s attorney (lol) so I”m not going to defend his motives or thoughts.

            People hold all kinds of seemingly strange and contradictory ideas, oftentimes until they die.

            The freedom to hold ideas is more important than the “correctness” of those ideas in the eyes of others.

            Actions that are against the law (assuming the law is applied equitably) are of greater concern (to me) and probably the rightful area of concentration.

            Karma is a spiritual matter…and if such a thing exists, it will play out regardless of the wishes (or correctness) of temporal observer’s opinions.

          • Anonymous

            I like to think of the post-election “dance” as not being of the “interpretive” variety, but more like moshing.

            Lol.

    • kemist

      The Union Carbide victims got very little out of that.

      • ReallyMGM

        Many attorneys made a frigging fortune in the tobacco lawsuits, and I assume Union Carbide as well. Usually the case.

        • joe

          True. It is the attorney who wins no matter which side they are representing.

      • Anonymous

        In any tragedy there are victims…that’s what makes those events tragedies. Some tragedies are caused by negligence and sometimes by malevolence. There are excesses among plaintiff attorney’s, just as there are abuses and deliberate attempts to cover up malfeasance among the targets of those attorneys.

        In the Bhopal disaster there were tort actions that resulted in a payout by Union Carbide of just under $500 million (close to one billion in today’s dollars.) The attorneys that won that settlement did receive a standard share of the contingent outcome. Had they NOT been so compensated, most likely NOBODY would have stepped into the firing line of the Union Carbide legal machine to seek redress.

        In the absence of contingency funded plaintiff’s attorneys, much social harm would never be corrected (or later dissuaded) nor would many of the victims receive any compensation whatsoever.

        It is a controversial and difficult area…it has good guys, bad guys and observers with all sorts of “correct” opinions about the way things should turn out.

        Just like in larger life.

        As an aside, the criminal (not civil) punishments rendered against several executives deemed responsible for the tragedy seem to be slight compared to the scale of the damage done to the victims.

    • Wogalistic

      Very good post. Just wondering something, I am under the impression that LRH implied something to the effect that tobacco or cigarettes weren’t harmful in a lecture he gave in July 1961. Any idea how John gets around this? Basically, do you think his pursuit of money overrides his loyalty to scientology?

      • Anonymous

        Life is nuanced, even in Scientology and among Scientologists. And even among other groups of people with whom one may disagree on select issues.

        We (including me) spend a great deal of time here pointing out the most obvious silliness and absurdities of Scientology and its adherents. And yes, Hubbard wrote some idiocies about smoking and was a life long smoker himself until shortly before his death (from a series of strokes.)

        However there is a danger in assigning blanket opinions and characteristics to every member of a group…it does open the door to legitimate concern about bigotry…in a discussion about any group.

        As has been pointed out many times, there is so much contradictory nonsense (as well as contradictory truth) in Scientology that one can ultimately find an LRH quote to support virtually any idea / cause. It is a failed study for that reason as it factually does not operate on the basis of any real principles…instead it operates on the basis of deception and expediency.

        I do not know what is in John Coale’s mind on every issue, but he is a Democrat when it comes to (overt) political party affiliation and he would appear to defy many of the uninformed cliches that are often flung at folks in that group, as well as rival poltical groups.

        • chukicita

          So do you think he set up Palin’s PAC because he believed it would split the Republican Party?

          • Anonymous

            I have absolutely no idea.

      • chukicita

        I think he was just doing his job, like many lawyers do.

    • Bingo! It all boils down to money and power in the end.

    • StudentOfLife

      Ditto! See John Edwards as just one example. Edwards is probably responsible most for the rise of our current president as I look back now that you bring this up. If those pictures don’t appear with his “love child” weeks before the first Democratic caucuses and votes in 2008, Hillary is likely finishing up her second term. I also have observed from hanging around Scilons (OT2 and OT5 used to take me to barbecues and MLM parties) that most Scilons (and these were very well off) tend to favor Republicans, which I find a contradiction but I think it’s because they postulate being part of the 1 percent. I even asked OT2 and OT5 this morning which did COS support and they both told me separately probably Repubs. I think this is in reality they also are wary of “regulation”: and thus tend to favor the party of “free markets” meaning “less government oversight.” I think they tend to support Repubs out of fear of Congressional oversight and deregulation even though the Scilons are probably encouraged to take advantage of the welfare state due to being paid slave labor wages and they are encouraging members to get on food stamps and no doubt free healthcare, particularly here in California where I”m shocked they given even new immigrants instant medical and food benefits (not sure about cash…just know what I witness in grocery stores and from working with addicts). I wish I was so lucky, lol, as I am saving money for a hernia operation I have to pay cash for rather than pay premiums and a deductible that would cost much more than the actual operation (I’m blessed to have good health otherwise).

      The time is very near for a Congressman to come out publicly for a review. I really believe Congressional hearings will be called for by end of 2015, even if they don’t actually occur, and the evil David Miscavige can’t spend enough money to blackmail every Congressman to forestall hearings. Tick Tock Davey, Tick Tock. .

      • LongNeckGoose

        It’s called “Social Darwinism.”

  • scottmercer

    As public Scientologists, they don’t speak about this because they are fully aware that they would be laughed out of the room.

  • flyonthewall

    OT but interesting, I promise – Copy of Have You Lived Before This Life 1958 inscribed by John McMaster. Inscription says “Wishing you a fast fast flow to Total Freedom. With Love John McMaster.” Your’s for only $1250!

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-Ron-Hubbard-58-1st-dj-HAVE-YOU-LIVED-BEFORE-THIS-LIFE-Inscribed-by-McMaster-/261253684272?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3cd3eedc30

  • BabySmurfette

    O/T Grossness: Kirstie Alley on Rachel Ray this morning. They played a game with her where they’d show her 3 “celebrities” and she had to choose which one was “marry”, “make-out”, or “move along”. First group: John Travolta, Ted Danson, and Woody Harrelson. An odd collection of B-listers, but anyways guess which one she picked to marry? Blech!

    • dungeon master

      She has said that she really loved jt, when they were working on ‘look who’s talking’, but they were both married at the time. The path not taken..

    • Phil McKraken

      Travolta, Danson and Harrelson are not an odd collection. They are 3 most notable actors Alley has worked with in her career. But god, Rachel Ray’s show must really suck if that’s the kind of juvenile content she dishes out.

  • 0tessa

    Maybe old news, but the big courtcase in Belgium against Scientology, which might lead to Scientology being declared forbidden in Belgium, starts in October this year.This year no holidays for OSA staff.

    • Draco

      And another chance for DM to cut the grocery bill – beans and rice for everyone – hell, cut the rice!

  • LZ

    Sara palin to a democrat! That’s quite a political stretch! I’d like to put palin in the rpf indefinately!

  • LZ
  • May_West

    The press needs to know this:
    Anyone who is a scientologist is trying to push scientology’s agenda to take control of the world.
    In other words: KSW, clear the planet. If they say otherwise, they are lying, as they are trained to do.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    I know that the photo was taken on the eve of his open-heart surgery.
    He is certainly not a poster-boy for the glories of $cientology.
    Mebbe he should become an SP ?

    2015 is really a special vintage, probably the best ever.
    And it’s only May.

    TICK TOCK, Tiny Tosser.

    • stillgrace2

      I just LOVE the 4 Horsewomen photo!

    • Judith Sylvester

      That’s Andrea on the right, correct? Is that Elizabeth in the blue shirt? Is Miss Tia in there? I’m dim, but I care!

      • dungeon master

        IIRC, bury, baby, Betty and reverend dee

        • Judith Sylvester

          Thanks DM!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Makes me think of the Many Mothers in the latest Mad Max:

      (refresh)

    • Draco

      Mischief personified!

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Oh! I love that 😀

  • stillgrace2

    I just clicked on the “Recommended” Heart at the top left of the comment section. Let’s get this story trending. Looks like we’re at 56 right now. Let’s go for 100.

    • Missionary Kid

      I posted the same request an hour later. We’re up to 82.

      • ElleGee

        I was #101.

  • flexible

    Open heart surgery for an OT huh. What a testimony to the upper levels.. PTS prolly.. oh.. but wait.. OTs don’t go PTS…. Hmmm… Oh.. wait.. he went OT back in the 90’s before the REAL tech was available…blah blah blah. Nonsense.

  • Stephanie Loving

    … “doesn’t that explain Hannity?” So funny. Perfect ending to a great post.

  • Alice Graves

    “Doesn’t that explain Hannity?” HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!

  • There isn’t one field this Cult won’t try and get their tentacles into on order to get money. Oh, such as this case trying to enter into donations to politicians that will run their agenda. OT 5 ????? Oh boy, am I in trouble. I wonder if I went to Narconon if I would be charged per “BT” for drug rehab and my insurance billed multiple times ?

  • Observer

    OT: Miss Tia has almost reached the amount necessary for her pup to have her surgery. I’ve been in this position with more than one of ours, and it sucks, so I’m reposting.
    http://www.gofundme.com/helpmeplayagain?utm_source=internal&utm_medium=email&utm_content=cta_button&utm_campaign=upd_n

  • Lucille Austero

    This is the price these last $cientologists pay: finding yourself skulking in the closet (I’m looking at you, JT) hoping no one will ask you about your crazy “religion” so you can keep on keeping on sweeping all this mess under the rug, not facing what a mess you got yourself in when you became involved with this scam cult. And of course, handing over the hush-money to Mi$cavige.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    The Harvard Political Review debates Scientology’s tax exempt status. I’m sure this was shared on yesterday’s blog but for those who missed it it is a great read.

    http://harvardpolitics.com/united-states/scientology-tax-exemptions/

    • Graham

      “With the fresh accusations against the Church of Scientology in Gibney’s film…” What fresh allegations? As far as I’m aware Gibney’s film was mostly a bringing together, in a very powerful form, of facts which have been known for years. Tony and others have been attempting to publicise these for years, yet it looks like people in the mainstream are only now waking up to these and see them as “fresh” allegations. Well, whatever it takes I suppose.

      Dear IRS, as a face-saver let’s pretend these are new facts which have only just come to light. Please review Scientology’s tax exempt status in the light of these shocking ‘new’ allegations which have only just this minute been brought to everyone’s attention.

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Spot on!

      • Mymy88

        Yes! The IRS is going to need its hand held, meh.

    • Missionary Kid

      It was, but thanks for posting it again. It’s a small measure that the question is being asked in a wider audience.

  • flyonthewall

    Another interesting ebay find. This copy of Have You Lived… was a library donation by none other than the cackling maniac squirrel buster Joanne Wheaton.

    http://www.ebay.com/itm/L-Ron-Hubbard-HAVE-YOU-LIVED-BEFORE-THIS-LIFE-Dianetics-/140607774362?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item20bce05e9a

    • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

      Joanne Wheaton is Charles Manson’s spirit animal, am I right, Nolly?

      • flyonthewall

        she is one scary lady

      • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

        She’s frightening. Hold me. 😀

    • Tony Ortega

      That’s the other Joanne Wheaton, not the Squirrel Busters one. This Joanne Wheaton was widowed when her husband was in a jetliner that crashed outside Washington DC. Two different women with exactly the same name.

      • flyonthewall

        oohhh, thnx for the correction, will edit

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        How dreadful.

      • Sid

        This Joanne Wheaton is actually really nice. She works at Measurable Solutions in Clearwater.

        • Joanne S. Wheaton did get regged into trying to give the kids’ potion of the insurance settlement to Scientology and a Scientologist company, but that was blocked.

          Church Markets Its Gospel With High-Pressure Sales June 25, 1990, Joel Sappell, Robert W. Welkos, Los Angeles Times

          (The Squirrel Buster is Joanne M. Wheaton.)

          • Sid

            Yes, that is correct. I think in the end Joanne’s son did get to go to college. I believe he went to med school. I’ll try to find out. It would have been royally sad if the church took all that money and he ended up not being able to continue his education.

            • They said that the people who regged her were no longer with Scientology. I wonder if that was true? Certainly it wasn’t because their regging was too cut-throat — only because of the embarrassing blow-back.

            • Sid

              Could easily have been a lie and they were still there, or just on the RPF for a few years.

          • Sherbet

            That’s an interesting article from 1990. I especially liked this from a rabid scientologist: “I just wish more people would take a look, would read (about Scientology), before they decide we’re cuckoo.”

            We read. We decided. You’re cuckoo.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Guess I got all the teetotaling space aliens, as I have never had the slightest desire to indulge.

    • Scream Nevermore

      My BTs are all seriously teetotal and drug-free. Sadly, for them, I’m not! 😉

    • Anonymous

      Your “BT’s” are obviously asleep.

      That is handled on NOT’s.

      Lol.

  • allioops

    ironic how these OT’s have major heart and body illnesses….the “wasband” had a heart attack. He was saved by WOG Doctors, and a police officer who saw the “wasband” getting faint. But the “wasband” had the audacity to try and say he had “open heart surgery” in court. He had a shunt inserted to cure the blockage. He was playing the “serious surgery” card to try and get out of being in court due to being in contempt after the divorce proceedings. Liar; as are they all.

  • Roy

    Tory Magoo once said in her vids that most top Scientologists were Republicans… Makes sense.

    • Though I am fiercely opinionated on the subject of politics, I do try to follow our strong commitment to staying on topic and avoiding flame wars here. Hell, I won’t even reveal which OS I’m on, that’s worse than politics . . .

      • Robert Hammond

        Smart move. Like religion, politics is almost as vitriolic as the Star Wars vs Star Trek debate. You can’t win when people’s lives are so intertwined with their belief systems.

    • ReallyMGM

      Do they really let SO members off work to vote?

      • Techie

        At the Int Base in the 90s they set up a polling station right in reception as a PR gesture, with local residents driving in to vote through the main gates. We were encouraged to vote and were carefully briefed on the candidates and proposals, especially on local issues that would affect us. There was a sop to partiality in that the Port Captain (Muriel DuFresne) would say “We’re not allowed to promote specific candidates, but …” In the Clinton era we were “encouraged” to vote for him. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1lD1MpwHio I don’t know what it was like on other Sea Org bases, certainly they have little time to get informed about politics, don’t read papers or watch TV.

        • ReallyMGM

          Interesting! There is “steering,” but actually I have seen worse in churches in my city. Candidates preaching sermons and such. I am amazed they would open the gates for the public to come in though.

  • dungeon master

    I followed the link to the slate article which describes what happens to a scientologists soul, and in the end credits it says thanks to Mark allender for asking the question. Is this a relative of the infamous John?

  • Missionary Kid

    To raise the Bunker’s profile with Disqus, click on the heart before “Recommended” directly under the number of comments.

  • Mark

    Refreshing with all the chlorophyll in the world wouldn’t work:

    • stillgrace2

      LOL. Emergency. Where are the matches?

      • Mark

        What?! You want to cause an explosion now?

    • Sherbet

      He had a problem with his HEART, Mark. HEART.

      • Mark

        It could be his feet…

        • Sherbet

          Could be.

          • Mark

            …but I really don’t think so.

            • Sherbet

              Me, neither.

    • Libertylover

      When I look at this picture, I think it looks like they are looking out of the eye on top of the pyramid!
      That’s it, just an random odd thought.

  • Sherbet

    (1) I’m so glad Tony is circling around one of, in my opinion, scientology’s least mined celebrity stories: Coale and Van Susteren. And he’s hilarious.
    (2) Tony paraphrases lrh: “…your current life is going to be affected by your unseen spirits re-experiencing their drug binges from millions or billions of years ago until you take care of it. And, he spells out, your body thetans may be carrying around drug residues that we haven’t even invented in this solar system, so be prepared to restimulate the mother of all flashbacks.” Makes perfect Hubbardesque sense; those body thetans keep on coming, and they’re coming COD. The well never runs dry, thanks to lrh.
    (3) See (1), above. “I’m a serious news anchor, and I believe this sh**.”

    • Mymy88

      Tony’s write up is hilarious. I loved it but at the same time it angered me; and Sherbert. that is so true, “I’m a serious news anchor, and I believe this sh**.” Ugh! For realz!!!!

      • Sherbet

        The scientology masquerade angered me, but the never-ending, lucrative BT removal procedure that lrh invented made me laugh. What a buffoon.

        • Mymy88

          God yes, what a buffoon! I think by now I should be desensitized to all his glorious disgustingness, but nope. Not even close.

  • Jimmy3

    Freedom, Liberty And Good Government Political Action Committee, or FLAGG PAC.

    Catchy, but I’ve got a better PAC name for you, John Coale:

    Blind Acceptance of a Loss of Liberty, Sanity And Critical Thought

    We could call it BALL SAC.

    Or we could just call it Scientology, if you prefer.

    • Gerard Plourde

      Sounds like mash-up rip-off of the Pennsylvania and Canadian mottos – “Virtue, Liberty and Independence” meets “Peace, Order and Good Government.”

      • aquaclara

        I wanna be on your team when we play Bunker bar trivia.

    • Sid

      Brilliant.

  • Chee Chalker

    Friendly reminder to click ‘Recommend’ so that more people find out about potential Democratic presidential candidate’s connection to Scientology!
    That’s all we need……….a candidate beholden to David ‘Let Him Die’ Miscavige

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Red-X Red-X Red-X
    Something HAS been done about it 🙂
    It works!
    The instructions on how to complain to Craigslist about spam are here:
    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2533632
    Have a look at how many Boston ads have been flagged for removal because of complaints.
    JJ is fighting back .
    Good.
    Let’s keep one of the few remaining staff in Beabtown busy and enturbulated.
    Confront the con front.

    And Red-X too – it’s therapeutic:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Pierrot and all the Red-X Gang, BRAVO!
    Let’s make some joyous noise.
    ty TruthI

  • Jimmy3

    Sadly, we haven’t heard anything back from him. It turned out that the day after we messaged him, Coale went in for open heart surgery. But he’s doing better now, as you can see, and so we thought we had waited a suitable amount of time before going ahead with this story.

    So if I’m reading this correctly, which is rarely the case, receiving a message from Tony Ortega gave this guy a heart attack?

    • Sherbet

      Sort of the OT3-pneumonia phenomenon.

      • Rasha

        You have to make sure you get your VV’s in first, so you’re ready. Why do you think Cruise’s movies are called MI? Myocardial Infarction:III – Arterial Oblation

    • Rasha

      It’s known as “TO III”, also, “the Blog of Fire”…

    • Robert Hammond

      I noticed that apparent correlation as well. Could it be a cause and effect? I thought Scientologists were supposed to be cause over matter, energy, space, and time.

  • Gerard Plourde

    “This is scientific fact, presented by Hubbard”

    Tony makes a very important distinction here. Religious beliefs are concerned with the transcendent – things that are not subject to the laws of science that explain actions in our universe. For Hubbard to claim that body thetans exist as opeations within the scope of our universe also means that their presence should be identifiable using replicable scientific means. This is especially true since he claims that somehow these beings can affect an individual by attaching themselves to him and thereby transmit the effects of their life experiences to the individual. (Again, remember that he’s claiming that their existence is scientific fact, not some kind of transcendent presence.)

    It just goes to show the power of the mind-control aspects of Scientology that ordinarily rational people unquestioningly accept this and shell out lots of money to relieve themselves of these “entities”.

    • Sherbet

      By making and reiterating that distinction, Tony also is saying to cos: You cannot sue me for or otherwise accuse me of making false statements about your church. The words are from Source, not Tony Ortega.

    • MaxSpaceman

      it’s nearly incomprehensible, in and of itself.

      • Gerard Plourde

        I’ll give you inconsistent, but it’s inconsistency that serves his purpose. The effects that Hubbard describes are those that traditionally have been ascribed to spirits, i.e. transcendent beings. However, Hubbard is claiming that body thetans are part of this universe, are scientifically measurable and can be demonstrably removed through auditing. By putting himself and his claims regarding body thetans in the realm of science rather than religion, he subjects himself to scientific scrutiny. This “litmus test” serves his purpose admirably – only “true believers” would accept this inconsistency and the aquiesence of true believers is necessary for his plan of total control.

        • MaxSpaceman

          I hear you. I was immediately struck by what you pointed out, and found it to be nearly incomprehensible, “… that ordinarily rational people unquestioningly accept this and shell out lots of money to relieve themselves of these “entities”

    • Robert Hammond

      The “entities” people really need to relieve themselves of are the scientologists.

  • ReallyMGM

    Interesting tidbit about Greta and hubby: “In 2012 an orphanage and school opened in Haiti called The Greta Home and Academy, which Greta and her husband helped found alongside Samaritan’s Purse.”

    Samaritan’s Purse is an evangelical Christian charity. Sons of Rev Billy Graham heavily involved.

  • nottrue
    • MaxSpaceman

      Love this finale !

    • chukicita

      Thank you for posting this!

    • JennyD211

      This made me so happy to see!

  • Dave Reams

    The wikipedia article on Greta van Susteren is interesting. Her sister is a psychiatrist, Senator Joseph McCarthy was best man at her parents wedding. Her husband John Coales is self described “ambulance chaser” well known for descending upon Bhopal India after a Union Carbide pesticide plant exteriorized a 18+ thousand residents. When not fighting toxicity abroad, John Coales switches teams and spreads it domestically, notably as an advisor to Sarah Palin’s campaign. John reportedly had cancer in 2013. Is this even possible for an OT?

  • Jack99

    When Tom Cruise is elected President we’re gonna be in so much trouble.

    • Jimmy3

      That movie sounds like it’s going to suck.

      • Jack99

        Hey, c’mon, the guy does all his own stunts, you know.

        • Jimmy3

          You know what would be a great stunt? If he could remove his head from his ass while dangling from a helicopter.

    • flyonthewall
    • ReallyMGM

      Not funny. There are idiots who would vote for him cause he won in NASCAR.

      • flyonthewall

        and he flew a fighter jet too

        • Lucille Austero

          Thus besmirching the good name of the US Military, which would not accept him simply based on his height.

      • Lucille Austero

        Oh! No you didn’t go there! I wish to object in the strongest possible terms to your post, which perhaps unintentionally besmirches the good name of NASCAR. Officially, NASCAR is not a Tom Cruise fan. I have this on good authority. F5 for a palate cleanser.

        • flyonthewall

          It’s true, he did win NASCAR and got the girl and everything. I think his buddy was injured though so that gave him a big motivation to win which he did in spectacular fashion

          • Lucille Austero

            Ridiculous movie which I will never watch. Never.

            • flyonthewall

              movie? idk what you’re talking about, you must be confused

        • ReallyMGM

          I love my racing! He’s so qualified though; he can drive a race car, ride a horse, fly a fighter jet, wield a samurai sword and jump on sofas. Oh yeah, people will vote for him.

          • Lucille Austero

            You forgot, ruined Lee Child for a lot of people. The pop culture sins of Tom Cruise are both painful and plentiful.

          • ze moo

            The P-51 that TC supposedly owns and the youtube clip of him in it are somewhat fake. That plane was flown by a professional and TC was in the back seat. Top Gun my ass….

            • LHS

              Trivia: if you’d like to hear about a genuine impressive achievement, one of the stunt pilots in Top Gun went on to fly four Space Shuttle missions, twice as the pilot and twice as the commander. His name is Scott Altman.

            • Lucille Austero

              A true hero, unlike our Freedom Medal Award winner.

        • Jimmy3

          Calm down, Lucille. You know what I do when someone upsets me? I turn my cheek. I turn it left. Then I turn it left. Then I turn it left. Then I turn it left. Then I turn it left. And it goes on like this for a long while.

          • Lucille Austero

            SMH, Jimmy.

            • Jimmy3

              Really? Left turn jokes always kill at my Gardening Club meetings. But I’m not sure they know what I’m talking about, now that I think of it… I’m not sure they even know who I am.

            • Lucille Austero

              Jimmy, I would like to be a fly on the wall at your Gardening Club meetings. I really would 🙂

            • Jimmy3

              Well, there’s not really a club… I just grow some crops behind a nursing home near my house, and when I visit, I call it my Gardening Club meeting. Nice folks there. Really lovely people.

        • Dawn G

          ‘besmirches the good name of NASCAR”

          Now that was intentionally hilarious.

          • Lucille Austero

            Dawn, I am confuse by your post.

    • Observer

      He’s too big a being for the office of POTUS. It would practically be an insult.