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Jason Barclay’s Sea Org Adventure: A Fresh Scientology Escapee Details Abuse

Jason_BarclayOver the last several years, Scientology has been rocked by the revelations of former members describing what it’s like to work in the church’s “Sea Org” and at its secretive bases. Invariably, the church responds by saying that information revealed by ex-members is dated and no longer reflects what life is like in the church’s employ.

But now, we have dramatic new testimony from a young man who was working as a Sea Org member just six months ago — and Jason Barclay’s account reflects the same kind of hardships, and extortion, and human misery that so many others have told.

Working with Karen de la Carriere for her new YouTube channel, Barclay is featured in three short videos that we are fortunate enough to debut for you today. We also spoke with Barclay, and we’ll intersperse what we learned with these moving video segments.

Jason first went public on Mike Rinder’s blog on March 21 with a lengthy and technical description of his time in the Sea Org. Here, he tells filmmaker Angry Gay Pope about joining the Sea Org at 13 years old…

 

 
Speaking to the Underground Bunker yesterday, Barclay told us that he actually signed his first billion-year Sea Org contract even earlier.

He was four years old.

“I was standing on a stage. I don’t know if they were serious, but my mom ran up and grabbed me away,” he says with a laugh.

Barclay had been born in Culver City, California and was around Scientology his entire life. After his short experience in the Sea Org at 13, he says he spent the next several years as “a poor Scientologist.” His mother was going through upper-level training at Flag — in Clearwater, Florida — and that led to privations. She had reached OT VII — which Scientologists often refer to as being “on the level” — when Scientology leader David Miscavige released the “Golden Age of Tech,” revising some of L. Ron Hubbard’s material so that some members had to redo expensive levels.

 
[Video #2: Jason, 13, leaves the Sea Org….]

 
“We owned a house at this time, and were making payments fine. Then Flag called and made my mom take a loan on the house. It was a loan for improving the house, but they had her spend it on redoing OT VI. She was caught, and we ended up losing the house. And she wasn’t even able to stay on the level,” he says.

At 17, Barclay became a journeyman electrician, taking a bus to a jobsite for up to four hours a day. Then, between 19 and 22, he found success as an extra in Hollywood. Because he could appear under 18, he says, he was able to turn it into a lucrative gig — up to about $3,000 a month.

At 22, he joined with a group of other Hollywood hopefuls to create a film group that produced several episodes of live-action anime for the Internet. The group was made up of about 40 Scientologists.

“It was really brutal work. And it kind of prepared me for the Sea Org,” he says.

At 27, he joined the Sea Org again, and this time was assigned to the LA Org at the headquarters complex on Sunset Boulevard. Barclay was soon in charge of maintaining the building — but on a tiny budget.

“I would only get about $400 a week for all maintenance, including toilet paper. If anything was wrong with the building — a scratch or a scuff — some executive would come up to me and tear my face off,” he says.

For two and a half years, he worked a shift from about noon to one in the morning, getting paid about $20 a week out of the $50 he was supposed to be paid — the rest was held back by the church so “gifts” could be bought for the entire org. After 1 am, he would work other shifts at the complex until about 5 or 6 in the morning so he could earn another $10 per week.

It was demoralizing work, he says. When he ran out of his budget, he found himself paying from his own meager pay to replace light bulbs at the org.

At one point, he got so depressed about his situation, he stood on the roof of the building, and thought about throwing himself off of it.

Instead, he began to plot how he would leave.

 
[Video #3: Jason on the Sea Org in 2011/2012…]

His mother was already disillusioned, and had told her son that she was contemplating asking the church for a refund — a treasonous act that would have got her kicked out of the church, and would have forced her son to “disconnect” from her.

Now, he told her, ask for that refund.

He told her to pick him up that night at 1:30 in the morning — and to be exactly on time. When his shift ended at 1 am, he went straight home to his 1st floor room in the Big Blue horseshoe, and began putting his few belongings into a sack. He had just realized that he needed to camouflage what he was doing by putting some laundry on top of his things when his senior officer happened to stop by and shone a flashlight at his bag. He had just put the clothes on it, and the officer went on with his rounds.

“I couldn’t just walk straight to the LA Org with what looked like all my stuff in a bag. So I went to the laundry instead. And by luck I had left some rags there to be cleaned earlier. So I picked those up and went to the LA Org, then dropped everything off in a utility office,” he says.

Every move he made was being watched on cameras, he says, and if he did anything unusual, security would be on him in minutes.

He checked with his mother, and she said she’d be on time. So he put the bag on a dolly and went into the basement with it, where he knew there were no cameras.

Then he waited until he knew the amount of time it would take to walk to the curb would put him there at 1:30 exactly. Then he began walking.

He pushed the bag on the dolly, and arrived just as his mother was pulling up. Now, it would have been obvious to the cameras that something unusual was going on. He knew they had only a minute or two before security would show up.

He tossed the bag into the car and left the dolly on the sidewalk.

“Shouldn’t you take the dolly back?” his mother asked.

“Are you nuts?” he replied.

They drove away.

In the ensuing days, the church made several attempts to talk him into returning, but it hasn’t worked.

“Today, I’m just trying to figure out more ways of speaking out. Of helping people with information. I’m feeling better, and I’m writing a book,” he says.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on April 19, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Bella Legosi

    It makes me wonder if those high up exec’s do not see that the horrendous treatment done unto their staff actually primes those staffers to blow? Everyone has their breaking point. But by this account it shows that sort of treatment and criminal conduct orchestrated by the leadership of Co$ only drives people away as well as opens them up to hearing criticism about the “church” as well.

    • Stick By Me

      Because that’s not how Scientology ethics works. In the Church something harmful done to you is a “motivator” and you only pull in motivators following overt acts of your own. Part of being a good Sea Org member is essentially pretending to be so in-ethics that nothing bad ever happens to you. You CANNOT actually hurt another being. The only way you can hurt him is to make him guilty of an overt act.

      This basically translates to: I can scream at you and punish you and do whatever I want, and if you don’t like it, that’s because of YOUR crimes.

      • Missionary Kid

        My translation: It’s always your fault.

        • FistOfXenu

          Hear that Davey? All this shit that’s coming down on you? The way your vampire cult is bleeding money and members? The way NarCONon is finally getting known for all the deaths it causes and the way people aren’t afraid to go public anymore when they leave? The way people want to know what you did with your wife and why your out-2D? You understand why it’s happening yet? Let me help you here. It’s because you’re out-ethics. It’s because of YOUR crimes. IT’S ALL YOUR FAULT, you dumb minibastard! Got that?

          • InTheNameOfXenu

            Miscavige must be the most miserable midget on the planet.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              One can only hope πŸ˜‰

            • FistOfXenu

              Well we’re working on it right? πŸ˜€ And hearing Jason’s story just makes me want to work even harder. The thought of giving the little jackal sleepless nights helps me sleep better.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              He is such a despicable little parasite and I think he knows it.
              Wouldn’t that suck?
              Waking up each morning and you are still David Miscavige.
              Ah, now I am smiling.

            • FistOfXenu

              Yes! This. Some days this is all I have to hang on to. All the tech in the cult can’t make the Demented Midget any thing better. All that praise by TC and fear by his victims and still when he’s alone he’s alone with himself. If there’s such a thing a hell it must be that.

              Just think even if he managed to get away with all that money he’s got stashed away, he’ll still wake up every day with himself. Hey Davey, no matter where you go, there you are.

              And now I’m smiling too. πŸ˜€ Thanks BTN.

            • Observer

              And he’s getting to the age where he’s going to start losing some height …

            • FistOfXenu

              Is it possible to have minus height? πŸ˜›

              Hold still Davey, I’ll just slip 2 more wedges in your shoes and you’ll be 0″ tall.

            • Observer

              They even made a movie about him!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Sure you didn’t mean this one???

          • ThetaBara

            Here’s what it comes down to:
            if Scientology is so “at-cause” over everything, what are we still doing here? Why is Anonymous still a Thing?
            Seriously!
            Shouldn’t we have all just gone *poof* at some point in the last 10 – 20 – 30 years?
            Or am I missing something?

            • FistOfXenu

              Agreed. Every $cientarCONonist should look at this. They’re supposed to have all the power and know how and Humptydumpty announced back in the old days he discovered how to handle SPs so they wouldn’t have to disconnect and blah blah. All those OTs especially all those OTVIIIs, and they can’t even handle a bunch of low tone SPs?

              Sea mOrg, OSA, everybody else in $cientarCONon, you can’t handle us. You should be able to but you can’t. You should be asking why. Your job is to clear the planet but the only way you can even handle 1 single SP protester is to use wog tech.
              You got nothing. Maybe that should tell you you’re on the wrong team.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Hey, 60 years of this nonsense, and #3 can’t handle that most basic of relationships, a spouse. Three failed marriages. He’s now tied with Dear Founder.

            • Casabeca

              Please elaborate, I only know about Shelly! Yikes!

            • Observer

              He’s referring to Ron “I Never Hhad a Second Wife” Hubbard. Davey only has the one, although his “communicator” Lou appears to be wearing the concubine hat as well.

            • FistOfXenu

              Are we sure DM still has his 1 wife and didn’t lose her someplace? Like down a Hole? Or worse?

            • Observer

              I’m not sure of anything with Davey, except that he’s out of his gourd.

            • FistOfXenu

              That’s fair. πŸ˜›

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I was referring to Mr. Cruise. Dear Chairman, as I understand, is #1. (Although many think of him as #2…)

            • FistOfXenu

              Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery?

      • Bella Legosi

        Sick sick sick sick! Thank you for the response!

  • Jason – Good for you! You are doing the exact right thing.

    The best way (I have found) to get over the trauma of being in the Sea Org is to write as much down as possible and get it out to people. Talking or wriing about it will diffuse a great amount of the pain and suffering you went through. I was at Int for 15 years and I figure I got about 1 more year in me until I have all but left that world behind and moved on.

    Here is the best part of moving on – you will likely have no worse experience for the rest of your life! The Sea Org sets the bar pretty high on the suck factor. No matter what job you work at you are going to do better! Did you know that slave laborers in China work less and get paid more than Sea Org members! Fact!

    Share what you know in the hopes that others will not have to go through it for themselves and then MOVE ON. No sense in spending the entire second half of your life bitching about the first! Get it out of your system and then live your life.

    You have got a great life ahead and people in the real world will respect you who for you are no matter what.

    Spend some real time with family and friends and live your life. That is the real route to total freedom.

    Good luck!

    • Bella Legosi

      You rock! πŸ™‚

    • nancy

      So true Marc. Once we have worked through our individual trauma’s, there is nothing that can be worse.
      The love of family and friends is truly what we all need and find so much more appreciation of – once we are safely away from that terrorist organization.

    • InTheNameOfXenu

      You’re so right Marc. I only spent 18 months in Scientology and 12 months out of that as a staff member at a local org. That experience was so bad that any other ‘bad’ experiences that occurred after leaving was minimal by comparison. Leaving Scientology was like lifting a huge weight off my shoulders. I felt that I had been a prisoner and had been exonerated. It was a life-changing moment.

      • Midwest Mom

        I’m so glad that your worst days are behind you and I’m also grateful that you post here!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Mister! You are not allowed to move on until we get that second book!
      You keep that tinfoil firmly on your head until it is finished!
      That is a TONE 40 Command Intention order!
      And there will be no backflashing the Squirrel!!!

      • Poison Ivy

        I can’t wait for Marc’s second book.

    • Poison Ivy

      “Did you know that most slave laborers in China work less and get paid more than Sea Org members? Fact!”

      Wow, Marc. That’s terrifying.

    • This is Jason Barclay and I wanted to thank everyone for the multitude of warm wishes! There is also a ton of great life advice here which I am totally going to take to heart! Getting my health back has been tough and it took me 4 months just to figure out what my diet should be. I thought I could at least have fruit and didn’t realize that was a bad idea :o. I’ve been going to the gym almost every day for the last two months to also get in better shape.

      As an update I did pay 700 for a ‘wealth now’ seminar hoping it would have some cool things to make a couple bucks here and there but canceled it. I have been going to college now for two semesters and will continue for a few years. When I got out I knew the first thing I had to do was get a real education. I’m majoring in political science to help me be a more impacting fiction writer. I plan to gently interweave morals and deep messages in exciting and compelling stories that I can muster πŸ˜‰

      I know my road ahead is tough but in a strange way I feel the things I’ve been through have helped me understand how organizations like that can rise to power and how I can now help answer the human riddles of corruption etc.

      I also want to thank everyone who is speaking out, supporting ex SO members, picketing and doing whatever they can to ‘put ethics in on the church of Scientology’.

      I also have a renowned respect for all members of Anonymous and any other group that’s willing to stand up against any type of corruption.

      If you have someone still in the church of Scientology that you can’t talk to just let me know through Facebook and I’ll help you out πŸ˜‰

      Also, if you want to meet with me, become friends or network to make a difference feel free to drop me a line as well πŸ˜‰

      facebook.com/jason.barclay.777

      • Midwest Mom

        ((Hugs))) to you Jason!

      • FistOfXenu

        Welcome onto the board Jason. I take my hat off to you.

      • Observer

        Great to hear you’re doing so well. I hope your mom is enjoying her freedom too. We’re pulling for you!

      • Oh and I wanted to apologize for my sqeeky voice during the emotional parts. I thought I sounded like a chipmunk trying to give off a tough ‘squirrel’ story lol

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Please don’t ever feel you need to apologize for being authentic.

      • Vistaril

        . . . have been going to college now for two semesters and will continue for a
        few years. When I got out I knew the first thing I had to do was get a
        real education . . .

        ^^^^ THIS!!!

  • Observer

    So Jason’s mom lost her house for obtaining a loan fraudulently under no doubt crushing pressure from the regs, but The Most Ethical People On the Planet skated away with the money scot-free because they hadn’t done anything technically illegal. Every time I think I can’t possibly despise The Great Bloviator and the slimy tentacle monster he created any more intensely I’m proven wrong.

    I’m so glad Jason and his mom woke up at the same time and were able to escape without being forced into disconnection. All the best to both of them, and I really hope his mother gets her refund.

    • Bella Legosi

      The more I read about the financial end of Co$ leads me to believe things such as fraud prolly isn’t the only activity they have been up to. I would really die if someone were to obtain some stock or real estate holding documents!

      *Wikileaks FBI FOIA kept me sucked in for days!

      • Poison Ivy

        I just can’t get over the fact that CO$ isn’t prosecuted for this kind of behavior. Oh yeah, they’re a religion. The most ethical people on the planet, blah blah blah.

        Here’s a clue, folks: If anyone tells you he or she is the “most ethical person” etc. etc….it’s a red flag. Really ethical people don’t have to tell you. They are too ethical to tell you! Their actions speak for them.

        I feel so much for Jason and am so grateful he and his Mom are both out now. And especially proud of them for speaking out. Every new escapee speaking out builds the case a little more.

        Welcome back to the Wog World!

        In other news, Andew OHehir at Salon really likes “Oblivion.”(http://bit.ly/ZDH2LY) I have to admit, the trailers are amazing. Except Tom Cruise still gives me the skeeves, even if I don’t consider his Scientology background. Always has. Always will, I imagine.

        • FistOfXenu

          It’s because of That Tooth..

        • Bella Legosi

          Amen sistah

        • Bella Legosi

          I can only hope that the government is amassing evidence so that when Co$ is brought down they got all the ducks lined up and there is no possible way for them to worm out.

          • villagedianne

            The government will do this only when the weight of public opinion forces them to. Meanwhile any English-speaking person with an internet connection will be warned away. The biggest danger now is the cult gaining traction in third-world countries.

            • Bella Legosi

              Agreed and excellent point!

            • Still_On_Your_Side

              Yes, but those third world countries do not, for the most part, have a justice system that believes someone is innocent until proven guilty. Instead, if an organization steals and lies, it is likely they only get to do that once or twice before the individuals involved are jailed or worse. If Miscavige is resorting to bribing political officials in those countries in order to “buy” slave labor to work in the Orgs, that has a very short half-life. There are too many officials to bribe, and as THDNE has said, too many eyes of the world watching.

        • villagedianne

          So true what you say about really ethical people not trumpeting their goodness. I have learned to mistrust any boss or any potential friend who makes a point of telling me that they are a good person. When anybody tells you this, my advice is run! run the other way!

        • Spackle Motion

          Bingo! If anyone tells you, “I am the most [ethical, honest, trustworthy] person on the planet” run far, far away from them. It’s been my experience that most of those people are completely lying and almost always their actions completely contradict their words.

          I knew one person that would always claim she was the most honest person she knew and despised people who lie. I couldn’t keep track of her lies after awhile…..sociopaths in business suits!

    • FistOfXenu

      You got it Observer. It’s always possible to despise Liar Ron Humptydumpty more and always possible to despise his Hubbardstein Monster even more. Just find out more about it and the despising comes automatically.
      It’s because $cientarCONon is always worse than we can imagine.

  • FistOfXenu

    Jason, great escape plan! Well done! It should be made into a movie. Wonder if you could get Tom Cruise to play y- oh hell, never mind.

    • Observer

      I just had a mental picture of Tom reading the script. Priceless!

      • FistOfXenu

        It would be so much fun to figure out a way to bring him the script and then sit there and film him reading it. I bet he’d spontaneously demonstrate the super power of making smoke come out his ears.

        • Im not sure if that’s as far off an idea as you think- With Isabella now publicly leaving the church he has to feel a sort of wake up call. And in his current interview with John Stewart John asked him, “How do you stay so young?” (ish) – and he replied with “I don’t know”. I was glad to see how he’s not even talking about the church publicly right now. I can’t imagine how crushed he’s gonna be though when he finally realizes what the church has actually become and his hand is attracting people to it.

          • TonyOrtega

            Jason, there’s no credible evidence that Isabella is leaving Scientology. In Touch magazine used some quotes by me out of context to make that case, but I tried to explain to them that just because her boyfriend Eddie Frencher had left the Sea Org (really just failed to finish his EPF), it didn’t necessarily mean he was leaving Scientology. In Touch ignored that because they wanted to tell a story that Isabella was becoming a problem for her Dad. But again, I’ve heard no credible evidence that she’s leaving the church. And certainly she isn’t “publicly” doing anything.

            • Anonymous

              There’s no credible evidence either that Scientology has actually become any worse than it was in 1970.

            • aw hell

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        And I just has a mental picture of Tom reading the script and him having a mental picture of little Suri in her baby high heels signing the billion year contract.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Saddest part of this– TC would still think he was viable to play a daring twenty-something with all the real charm and vulnerability that Jason possesses…

      • FistOfXenu

        Scary but I think you could be right. It depends whether he gets excited about playing a young hero before he realizes what it’s about. As soon as he figures it he’ll go all “I put ethics in on myself!” and start looking for somebody to blame and call SP

        • Observer

          If Michael Doven were still working for Tommy Boy, Tommy would no doubt just kick the crap out of him.

  • Bella Legosi

    I would like to point out that Jason’s body language during these vids is impeccable! I don’t know how to read body language like a freaking Scilon or CIA, but I do know the basics (eye position, ect) and he is telling the truth!

  • HeatherGraceful

    Jason, what a beautiful human being you are. Thank you so much for speaking out about your experience in the CoS. You are adding the light of your testimony to that of many others before you, and the light is banishing the darkness. I pray you will continue to heal physically, mentally, emotionally and spiritually and I have no doubt that naming the abuse as abuse will cause you to take a huge leap forward in each aspect of your healing.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    I could only watch the first video so far. There is something so stunningly sincere about Jason that makes listening to him almost unbearable to me. This is going to take a few attempts to get through and it will most certainly be worth it.
    Very troubling and touching.

    • Bella Legosi

      So its safe to say I wasn’t the only one with a few tears listening to him.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I was this close….but like I said….I only got through the first one so far.
        I am going to have to take this in chunks.

        Lets say there were some deep sighs already.

        It is people like this who make you appreciate the humanity of those Scientologist’s.
        Strip away all of the conditioning and mind control and you see some of the most beautiful people.

        • *looks behind him on mention of beautiful people – haha πŸ˜›

          • hogarthian

            And you have a wicked sense of humour…. which makes me think you’re gonna be just fine! Good luck to you, you’re a sweetheart, and you did the right thing. Just keep listening to THDNE and other fabulous exes and don’t, DO NOT, be sucked into the ‘lite’ version. πŸ˜‰

        • ParticleMom

          The second one is the toughest to watch without crying.

      • Not by a long shot. Like BTN2 it is going to take me a few tries to watch all of it.

        • Bella Legosi

          I watched them all in one sitting and it is very heartbreaking. Hope he finds some peace now he is out!

          • ThetaBara

            I know. He just seems like the sweetest guy. it is SO to his credit (and also Jenna, and others who grew up and got out) that he knew better anyway.
            As THDNE said, this is Why.
            I want to get them out!

    • Spackle Motion

      You could really see the little boy in him that hurt. I think that is what is so incredibly sad about these videos.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        And one who believes he failed…everyone and everything, including the whole world he “failed” to save. It will take help and time to learn that everyone and every thing failed Him.

        • ThetaBara

          <3 so true

        • Yes especially when I was told that every week while is the S.O. My favorite reprimand I’d get for failing to complete by ridiculous cleaning CL was “I have psychos in the wog world I have to worry about and now I have you!”

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            Hubbard couldn’t clear the planet. Miscavige can’t clear his plate, much less the planet. Yet, Jason was told for years he was “a problem.” Jason, step back and see how pathetic those people are. They are fighting to reach the bottom, you are fighting to reach the top.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    Bless you and your mom Jason. It took a lot of courage to escape. It was synchronicity that both you and your mom came to the same conclusion to leave that evil cult. Many stories don’t pan out that way and those sad ones of family members torn apart by this cult is heartbreaking. This is your time. I’m glad you have the guts to tell your story. I look forward to your book when it comes out.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Huh, and all this time I thought that was a Police tune.

    • Thank you that makes two of us =D haha

  • 0tessa

    Management by yelling and slapping. My god, it’s as bad as in North Korea.
    Thank you so much for telling us your story. You are very brave indeed.
    They can’t harm you anymore. You are free!

  • Vistaril

    Welcome home, Jason. What a heartbreaking story you have, but one also filled with a reassusring example of the power of the human spirit to endure in even the darkest of places. Thank you.

    I’m struggling a bit with your statement . . .

    I was never abused as a child

    . . . except Scientology kept your mother broke, lied to you, stole from you, deprived you of an education, separated you from your family, interrogated you using a crude lie detector . . . before you were 13. I know its all perfectly Standard Tech as per L Ron Hubbard’s written instructions for crossing the Bridge to Xenu, but, seriously, that is abuse. That you have come through it and can still smile indicates to me that you are going to go on to great things.

    Thank you for speaking out. MOAR.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Amen..

    • Sidney18511

      Jason is going to need some time for the smoke to clear before he will realize the all the abuse he and his family suffered due to scamology.

      • FistOfXenu

        I think you’re right Sidney. When you grow up with something you take it for granted. When I grew up it was normal for kids to get a whupping for bad behavior. Around me it was mostly a belt or a razor strap. In the summer the windows were open and you could hear the crack crack crack of the belt or strap and the yells of the kid getting beat. It was normal and happened regularly like brushing your teeth. And even when I was the 1 getting beat I didn’t think there was any thing wrong except that I was careless and got caught. We all knew our parents loved us like we knew our own names.

        But by the time I was a father the kind of beatings I used to get wouldn’t be stood for anymore and we decided to be more creative parents. And now that people don’t beat kids all the time I think that’s a good thing but when I was a kid I never thought about it at all. It was like the air.

    • thank you πŸ™‚ Yeah it is funny to look back now and go wtf?!

  • Marta

    Thank you, Jason! Your authenticity and openness is remarkable, so fresh and moving. Please keep writing and speaking out – and keep reading and learning and changing through the process of de-cult-ing. You have a whole life ahead. Congratulations on recognizing the end of your rope before actually reacing it and then getting out (twice)!

    To Karen and Angry Gay Pope: Applause!

    • Midwest Mom

      I agree with Marta. I look forward to hearing more from you and about you in the future! You are a sweetheart and you have a bunch of people here who care very much about you!

      I hope that you can meet Derek Bloch sometime in the very near future, as well. I think that you both can relate to each other’s experiences in such a way that it can benefit you both in dealing with your past and paving a happy, healthy, fun-filled path toward your futures!

      Sending my best wishes and some Midwest hugs your way!

    • Heh thank you =D I’m fairly lucky I got out while still young. I thought I was bad off with church ruined credit, no health, friends (all disconnected) or life skills. But there are a lot of much older guys that now have to go ‘wtf so I do now?’

      • q-bird

        Well YaY huh?!!! Jason! You done did it – you made it out, you claim your human rights – you decide how you’re gonna live – You!! Yay some more for you kid!

      • Marta

        Yes, you are very lucky. My husband and I blew the SO in dark of night, sneaking out like you (sans the security cameras everywhere) in 1979 when we were 27/33 respectively. We had our 15 month old son, an old Toyota Carina stuffed with what we could pack in it, and $500 between us. Thank goodness we had some family that weren’t in Scientology, because we had to start all over making friends and learning skills…not to mention learning to speak English as our first language again, LOL!

      • Marta

        And, I’d like to add, that everyone who gets alive at any age is far luckier than those still in and many who never made it out alive.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thank you for telling your story, Jason. Decades ago I, too, dug into my own purse, not for light bulbs, but toilet paper I shared with staff in Big Blue. I want to share with you a fact: it was Just as bad in the 80’s and Hubbard hoarded his cash while his “elite” staff were in shambles, delirious, half starved, mentally broken. I knew the parents of some of those Hollywood 2nd Gen aspiring actors that you must have worked with. Many of them are no long alive because they tried to cure their cancer with auditing instead of oncologists. Like you, I haven’t seen any of their children become famous or successful celebrities, other than those who are profiting from it all, the ABLE run academies and I assume you went to Masterson’s classes or Carol Rees Acad and Arts.

    I hope more than anything that you are now getting a real education, spend a lot of time having Fun (it is Not out ethics to lay out on the beach, doing nothing) or any hobby. In addition, I can’t plead enough that you remove yourself from All persons or groups or activities involving scientology. Just take a vacation from it and seek professional help. There are psychologists that don’t prescribe drugs that are Not the enemy line and those that are experts on cults would be almost a must for your background. Steven Hassan, freedomofmind.com would likely be more than happy to talk with you, maybe help you network and give you contacts. I think you are brave and smart and talented enough to do all of this, even though it will be a lot of hard work. Oh, also, get a thorough physical checkup and be Totally honest with your doctor, including the candida, the incessant head injuries, sleep deprivation, malnutrition, stress levels, and every other detail, even if you think it was too “minor” to mention, oh, and the Purif definitely, and of course, asbestos. You might want to google “asbestos sites and Cedar Lebanon Hospital site”. Write it all down before going in. Many of us have found physical problems years later that festered due to our “Doing Time in Big Blue”. Now is the time to be proactive in heading off any future mental and physical breakdowns.

    In other words, take that strong work ethic of yours and make Taking Care of Jason your own entire Mission, not just a project. Helping others is something that should be far down the list as a Conditional Target, After other major ones have been completed, with a 1-year time machine on it. As an ex-SO member, I know you will understand this.

    This is the route that will get you to a happier and healthier life in the shortest amount of time. Give yourself a year in therapy and education and don’t scimp on that fun part! It might take you a year before you stop waking up in a sweat on Thursday mornings! I am so sorry for your sorrows, pain, and the abuse you suffered from childhood till recently. but so happy to know that your mother is reuniting with you. I wonder about your situation with your father, if he is still around and could help you both? If you need anything in your healing process, like just a conversation, or something, I’m available and so are hundreds of others. Let people know what you need. I know. That will be one of your most difficult changes. It Will get better. You have many friends.

    • sugarplumfairy

      The Hole has spoken.. And the hole knows her stuff.. Brilliantly said, THDNE..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        This is Why, Sugar. The children who were left to twist in the wind.

        • Midwest Mom

          I can’t imagine what this site would be like without you here, and I don’t want to know! You are the Diva of the Bunker, Jacuzzi Girl!

          We love ya bunches, your Holiness! πŸ™‚

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thanks, mm. It’s official. I can now tell my husband to address me as Diva of the Bunker. He was getting cranky with your Holiness. hee

    • FistOfXenu

      Since I can only click the up arrow once, have a standing ovation, THDNE!

    • N. Graham

      You need to be strong yourself before you can help others effectively. It is great to help others, and if you want to do it most effectively, take care of yourself first Jason. Other than that, keep up the good work and congrats on your escape!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I feel a little queasy at the moment after reading all of Jason’s stories, and his facebook page, and his writer page. I really hope he gets therapy and a well rounded education and soon. Very soon, instead of spending $800 on another brainwashing, rip off con game like the “Millionaire’s Mind seminars” he posted about, and the Freedom Works political club with members who “like” Glen Beck. I very much understand how earnest is he is helping to motivate others, motivating writers and giving them tips, trying to make money with website programming, a course in political science. It is very hard to let go of some grand champion and helper roles.

        I just hope he reads this thread. Everything I have read just compounds the evidence that therapy and well rounded accredited education, and Jason helping Jason is the ticket. Right now it looks like he is on the same path of public scientologists who want to get rich quick and easy, one simple fix, bypass all the hard work and learning that scientologists are trained to avoid as it is “entheta and invalidating, evaluative”. Sigh. We can only wish him well and hope for the best for him.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Thank you saying this. For pointing out that under the Hub, things were bad for Sea Org members. Otherwise Marty farty and Rinder will keep pushing it all on DM.

    • Thank you very much! What a prolific reply! Yeah I’ve been doing a lot for improving my health but I definitely should see a doctor for a checkup. I forgot to mention in my story but LA Org does have asbestos in it. As do all of the Sea Org berthing floors. The ‘elites’ tell you as long as it’s not ‘agitated’ then it’s not bad for you lol!

      Me and dad still talk fairly regularly on skype. When I was 12 or so my dad and mom got divorced and moved to OPPOSITE ENDS OF THE EARTH haha

      I can’t wait to do a real Purif that’s done right and now the current squirrel way!

      Id love to chat sometime. Being able to get these videos and stories out have helped me a TON but not as much as watching other peoples videos and reading up on other stories, interestingly enough. I definitely have my own ideas on how I want to now make a difference and I’d love to have feedback to make sure I’m not going to go about it like your current ‘glib Scientologist’.

      (In Scientology Glib just means you ‘know the data’ but can’t USE it.)

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Oh my god, again! Agitated asbestos? And yes, I know very well about the asbestos in Big Blue. I’m former Sea Org Exec, OT, Jason. Also, in the arts. As to the Purif, please, please read up on this “action”. Reachingthetippingpoint has all the medical information that you need to know and understand. Please see a non scientology doctor, a Board Certified M.D. for your checkup. Glad to know you have a line in with your dad. I so know how the world, careers, purposes and the whole thing looks through the eyes as a scientologist. I understand you don’t want to give up the very thing you were raised on. At least please read up on the Purif. I was one of the original guinea pigs on that. I and so many others didn’t find out about harm it did until many years later. Most importantly, it will Not handle asbestos or toxins or anything. Well, it takes time to peel off the layers. I still hope eventually you will see a therapist who specializes in cults and see a real doctor.

        Later…. glad to see you here. Sorry if I start sounding like I’m preaching! Just concerned.

      • Spackle Motion

        Jason, I hope that you do some research on the Purif and potential impacts to your Candida condition. A quick Google search got me to a site that explains the damage Candida does to your liver, and the Purif is the WORST thing you can do for your liver. Taking high doses of niacin and other vitamins is TOXIC to a compromised liver.

        Please…..Please look into this before you do something harmful.

        http://www.candidamd.com/candida/getcandida.html

        Candida invasion of organs begins, with the liver being one of the most affected organs. This is due to the fact that the liver receives a large blood supply directly from the intestines, where Candida overgrowth usually gets its start.

  • aquaclara

    As we toggle between posts this morning, wrapping ourselves in ever-gripping news, I just want to give a shout out to Angry Gay Pope for his fine contributions behind the scenes. Tony, maybe you’d consider an interview with him one day, too?

    • Spackle Motion

      I second that. AGP is a fascinating guy with some serious bravery for constantly drop kicking the cult in the nuts. I know that he doesn’t exactly warm himself to some people but he really came out of nowhere and forcefully picked up where Shawn Lawnsdale sadly left off. And he’s been at it for five years now….there’s definitely something to that type of persistence.

      • ThetaBara

        He’s Gay, and he’s Angry. And he’s doing some great work!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Bur certainly not the Pope! So two out of three ain’t bad.

          • Spackle Motion

            He’s the Pope of his own domain. That’s enough for me.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      agreed. dont tell him I said this, but secretly he’s a teddy bear. mwah! thank you

  • BosonStark

    Recruiters in Scientology are under stat pressures too. They will tell “acceptable truths” to KSW, and get new people into the Sea Org, and when grown adult professionals like Lawrence Woodcraft didn’t balk when the promises aren’t delivered, it’s very unlikely most children will. It’s probably unusual that Jason made as much fuss as he did about his vacation time.

    Remember, Scientologists believe that they are the only ones who can save this sector of the galaxy, because Hubbard said so.

  • John P.

    Horribly off topic but worth noting: Marty Rathbun put up a blog post just now with an article from Hubbard dated March 1952. The Hubbard article is all about how Scientology is scientific but it’s even better than science because science gets stultified and ossified and eventually stops doing anything useful.

    The example he cites: biology. I nearly snorted Starbuck’s all over the screen here at the mighty Global Capitalism HQ trading desk.

    Hubbard says:

    …You can see how biology, for instance, has dead-ended. Great study; it was started with a lot of verve way back. Francis Bacon was quite interested in this. Lucretius before him was very interested in this. In modern times, it has fallen away from its own definition. It’s β€˜biology’. It’s sort of a hopeless dead end. They are not looking toward any source of life, they are just looking toward new kinds and combinations of life that they might discover by happenstance. The adventure of search has gone out of the field.

    This is actually the history of any science. They push out into the unknown, they collect data, they formulate this data around a few theories and then they end. And they become stultified.

    Yes, indeed. Biology in 1952 was stultified and beginning to meander hopelessly in search of ever smaller gains. Small gains starting with the discovery in 1959 of the double helix of DNA and heading from there in ways I can’t even begin to articulate. This is like patent commissioner Henry Ellsworth, who in 1843 predicted that the rapid pace of invention seen up until that time was inevitably nearing its end and that nothing further was likely to be invented. Yes, in 1843. This equivalently medieval head-in-the-sand idiocy coming from Hubbard just makes my blood boil.

    Marty’s blog post is here: http://markrathbun.wordpress.com/2013/04/19/the-story-of-scientology-prophesied/. To be clear, Marty is pointing out that the “science” that has gotten stultified is Scientology; he’s not at all saying that Hubbard was right about biology.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Thank god for the ending….I was starting to think Marty needed an intervention…..

      Nevermind…I read it. Marty does need an intervention!

    • FistOfXenu

      Damn! That ElRon clam aid really does mess up your brain doesn’t it? Hubbard should’ve stuck to the drugs. And Rathbun? He’s using 1 of Liar Ron Humpty’s self-justifying piles of horseshit to justify criticizing modern $cientarCONon? At least that’s how it looks to me. I’ll put this pile of Rathbun over here next to the other pile of Rathbun about quantum physics.

    • q-bird

      Co$ = filled with costiveness — lousy, old & stinky & vastly obsolete. constipated b.s. I get it.

    • Spackle Motion

      But….there is NO SCIENCE in Scientology. There NEVER WAS science in Scientology so how could it become stultified?

      Seriously, Marty needs a reality check.

      • Midwest Mom

        Check, please!

      • hogarthian

        He makes my skin crawl.

    • FistOfXenu

      Thinking about it John P, this isn’t off topic. Thinking about Jason and other people that come out of the cult, Marty is a kind of warning of what happens to people that don’t completely throw off the Hubbard deceptions. I don’t mean the tech I mean the myth that being a $cientologist makes you superior to wogs and wog world (even if you’re getting treated like shit by DM and all your superiors). And the myth that $cientology is some kind of short cut to really learning stuff and knowing what you’re talking about.

      As long as an ex-$cieno doesn’t give up thinking that $cientology is “knowing how to know” he’ll keep thinking that he already has a head start on wog science. When that happens he writes woo-woo claptrap about quantum physics and bases his own ideas on horseshit written by a pathological liar that wanted to prove it’s okay that he didn’t know what he was talking about.

      • Spackle Motion

        Amen. You said it better than I did below when I said that there was never science in Scientology. The basic premise of Scientology is a complex system of myths (at best) and/or elaborate malignant lies (at worst), so how is there science in Scientology?

        Rathbun spends his time trying to fit a round peg into a square hole, and when it doesn’t fit he tries to force it by bastardizing the words of philosophers and quantum physics principles, trying to justify and distract himself on the fact that it just doesn’t fit. He seems to force the written words of others to fit into his broken understanding of the world, which is still shaped by Hubbard’s lies.

        He’s not going to get anywhere until he faces the fact that a round peg does not fit into a square hole.

    • BosonStark

      While Hubbard’s science is a mishmash of pseudoscience and control for extracting money, he was trying to capitalize on the times by calling his assorted claptrap a science, and therefore, I guess, had to put down real science, by claiming the superiority of Sciloontology?

      In 1950s, people were caught up in the excitement of rapidly advancing science/technology, with a half century of advancement at a speed that hadn’t been seen in human civilization. Computers were going to play a big part in the 2nd half of the century, and of course, Hubbard had to put them down too.

      In a way, Scientology can be seen as for people who just didn’t want to wait, for “all the answers,” or even any answers They want simple answers for things, including eternity, and they want it now. They want to smoke like chimneys and purify their meat bodies with sauna. They want to let the Sea Org raise their kids so they’ll be perfect, and save the planet in time, with Hubbard’s “technology.” How’s that workin’ out?

    • Bob

      John P. not off topic. As part of this subject may I add that we current clams are still looked at funny if we avail ourselves of new scientific breakthroughs that help us be stronger, smarter, healthier or heal quicker. It is called MIXING PRACTICES. In fact if it cuts into reducing auditing then it is probably not allowed. I had to deal with this in the past with a technology that was proven and I couldn’t use it because of some bogus excuse, non-sequitur LRH policy. There was nothing I could do about it but throw away the product, even though it worked well. Very timely on Marty’s part and for you for bringing it up here.

      Clams are convinced they have to listen to The Hubbs old lectures(hundreds and hundreds), which are full of archaic points of view and that these will set them free. Yes, you are then free from any scientific thought processes that would reveal the bogus nature of the pseudo-scientific religion. You then experience the freedom from worry a Borg has, as he no longer has to think for himself.

      • Observer

        A trivial point, but I cannot begin to tell you how refreshing it is to see non-sequitur spelled correctly.

        Carry on.

        • Bob

          Thanks. I like the word so I think I did not need spellchecker.

          • ThetaBara

            Hi, Bob.
            Missed you.

            • Bob

              Thanks. Was busy with work. Bob

      • ParticleMom

        What an important point, Bob. Using medicines and other products reduces the need for auditing. I never thought about it in such plain terms before.

        • Bob

          Thanks. We clams are taught that almost all medicines are bad. But in fact used correctly they can help a variety of ailments. Now I am open to all kinds of interesting and useful methods of being more healthy.

    • Espiando

      Well, Hubtard wasn’t alone in making that type of statement. Lord Kelvin did the same thing regarding my particular subject, physics, in the early 1890s. He said there were three problems left to solve, and then physics as a subject would be at a dead end. I believe those three were the aether, the black body problem, and the photoelectric effect. The solutions to those led to relativity, quantum mechanics, and Einstein’s Nobel, respectively. And suddenly I don’t have a degree in a dead science.

      Kelvin has the bigger set of floof goofed in this regard, but Hubbard doesn’t have a temperature scale named after him, so Kelvin wins.

      • Observer

        Maybe someone should invent a BS-o-Meter and name it after Hubbard.

      • Well, until we figure out how relativity, quantum mechanics, and subatomic particles work together, then Kelvin’s problems aren’t solved yet. Only then will physics be done, right?

  • dbloch7986

    Jason,

    I am so glad you did not jump off that roof. You seem like such an awesome guy. Your story is not that different from mine. I suffered much of the same abuse that you did, as I am sure all Sea Org members have. My parents always tried to tell me that “things are different now” when I would tell them I was upset with my Sea Org experience. I always knew it was bullshit, but of course, you know Scientologists are always walking the party line.

    I am glad your mom left with you and I am glad that you were able to get out of there. Congratulations on getting out, man. I am so happy for you. Things will only get better from here. I hope you can find your way back into the movie business. Maybe you’ll be famous on day.

    By the way, if the CO PAC Base Crew is the same woman as when I was there, I know exactly who you are talking about and she treated everyone like shit. Her, the Pub Off AOLA and the Dissem Sec AOLA during my time there were some of the most awful, mean, cruel and abusive people I have EVER known.

    • Midwest Mom

      Derek, I hope you and Jason can meet together soon. I hope someone can set something up! (Hint Hint Angry Gay Pope!)

      (((Hugs))) to you, boo!

    • Yeah her name is Rebecca Christenson (not sure on spelling of last name). She’d been to the RPF three times. I wasn’t surprised she acted like that with the sheer amount of abuse she’s received.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Hi Jason. RPF 3x? oh my god. That is clear human rights abuse.

      • That you can look past the abuse she dishes out to see the abuse that she has received is a sign that your soul remains intact.

        • sugarplumfairy

          Absolutely.. Beautifully said..

          • hogarthian

            This is funny Sugar… I think I’m doing my catching up 20 minutes behind you! And yes, beautifully said.

        • thank you πŸ™‚

      • dbloch7986

        I received quite a bit of abuse and I did not turn out as awful as her. There were only two other people in the Sea Org that ever treated me as bad as that awful woman did. She was terrible.

        • yeah – i feel that when a person tries to retain their identity their force of will goes to war with the abuse pushed onto them – If their will is less than the abuse they’re receiving then they will ‘become’ their abuser. You must have had a much stronger will πŸ˜‰

  • dbloch7986

    By the way Jason, I am in the LA area. So if you ever want to meet up for drinks or something and bitch about life in the Sea Org or something let me know. dmanunderground@gmail.com

    • Midwest Mom

      *Derek’s motto is Eat, Drink and Be Merry! πŸ˜‰

      • ThetaBara

        Talk, drink and eat berries!

  • Mrs Libnish

    Jason, you seem so sweet and sincere. I’m so glad you and your mom made it out. Enjoy the beginning of the rest of your life!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    One thing that struck me about this is how emotionally raw Jason is. For someone who was given a lifetime of “ideal” opportunities to absorb an “infallible tech,” he nonetheless is incapable of talking about awful, awful things without choking up. This is a real failure of the tech. It fails to address actual humanity.

    Jason, I am so glad you were able to recognize that you are not some analytical machine who could become a superior being by emptying yourself of your individuality. Stay strong, and stay vulnerable, and stay true to yourself, and stay away from the CoS!

    • FistOfXenu

      Maybe DDD but I think we still know just a little bit of how much those bastards fucked with his mind and emotions. Maybe any of us would choke up if we went through what happened. But I agree they didn’t equip him to endure what they did. How could they? They don’t understand the human mind and human emotions and human relationships. They taught him to pretend and cover up. Now he’s free and he’s discovering his humanity. I’m glad he has people around him that love him and care about him to help him adjust. He’s young and strong. He’ll make it.

      Jason you’re amazing!

  • Ze Moo

    Jason, in spite of attempted CO$ brain washing, has kept his sense of right and wrong intact. Given the attempts to change him into a hubclone, he has done well and he’ll get better as time goes on. Bless him…

    The NYtimes has a very snarky review of “Oblivion’. My favorite lines are:

    “If only it were less easy to laugh at β€œOblivion,” a lackluster science-fiction adventure with Tom Cruise
    that, even before its opening, was groaning under the weight of its hard-working, slowly fading star and a title that invites mockery of him and it both. The agony of being a longtime Tom Cruise fan has always been a burden, but now it’s just, well, dispiriting. You not only have to ignore the din of the tabloids and swat away the buzzing generated by his multiple headline-ready dramas, you also have to come to grips with the harsh truth that it no longer actually matters why and how Tom Terrific became less so. No one else much cares.”

    http://movies.nytimes.com/2013/04/19/movies/oblivion-with-tom-cruise.html?src=dayp&_r=0

    • ThetaBara

      Oh, my!
      I did think the title was perfect. And someone’s (non-scilon-watching) partner said, “oh, autobiography?” when he heard the title.

      • Ze Moo

        All of the ‘reviews’ of Oblivion have mentioned that joke and they all talk about couch jumping and post-postpartum depression and Katie Holmes. Nice to see that most reviewers aren’t letting TC slide.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      I bet that TC thinks he will be able to move to full time “big person” “helping” Miscavige run the “40 million” member church.

      • Ze Moo

        “Cast as a top-gun space jockey, Tom Cruise does what he was put on Earth
        to do: move fast, look intense and save the worldβ€”while stripping off
        his shirt every now and then to show he still pays his dues at the gym,
        not just the Scientology center.”

        http://www2.macleans.ca/2013/04/19/major-tom-to-ground-control-oblivion-and-to-the-wonder/

        Macleans is old Canadian news and literary magazine. Dem canuks sure got humor you betcha!!!

  • Truthiwant

    Although the Boston bombings have nothing to do with Scientology, any extremist group whether it be a religion, a dictatorship or a political party have their roots firmly imbedded in controlling other
    people’s minds. At the moment without speculating, goodness knows what those
    two brothers had been taught.

    The other day there was a discussion here on the bunker comparing David Miscavige to Jim Jones.
    I don’t think Miscavige has the power to,but if Ron Hubbard towards the end of
    his life had wanted people to commit suicide on one of the upper levels, for
    sure, there would have been brain washed members that would have done it. Probably
    to be able to free themselves from the impediment of a body and be able to go
    to Target Two with the great man himself.

    Jason Barclay’s story is heartwrenching. He talks about broken promises made by the Sea Organization,
    that are, quite frankly, criminal. The very fact that, in spite of facts like
    these, somebody continues because they believe in what they are doing in
    Scientology just goes to show how evil Scientology really is.

    • ThetaBara

      I recently saw something about someone being encouraged to “drop his meat body” in the hopes of being reborn to scilons – just because he couldn’t get any more money out of his parents! There’s no “probably” about it. I am sure people would have followed. That’s how cults work, and part of why they are so scary.

      • dagobarbz

        A few years ago we were horrified to learn that Scientology, Inc. was managing some sort of Golden Era Retirement Home where they would help the elderly “pick out a new body.”

        I do not know if that’s still going on, but I hate to think of elders trapped in the hands of greedy, evil culties.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          New Era Seniors, Inc or New Era Seniors Intl., run by Susan Walker. Haven’t seen any activity for a while.

          http://www.manta.com/c/mmnp6lc/new-era-seniors-inc

          http://www.guidestar.org/organizations/95-4691398/new-era-seniors.aspx

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Yes, it would appear it is defunct. Here’s a clue from the GuideStar report:
            “This organization’s exempt status was automatically revoked by the IRS for failure to file a Form 990, 990-EZ, 990-N, or 990-PF for 3 consecutive years. Further investigation and due diligence are warranted.”

            And a blast-from-the-past Mission Statement:
            “New Era Seniors International (NESI) is an international nonprofit organization dedicated to helping seniors with creative solutions to problems, including direct services, seminars and counseling that overcome barriers, improve the quality of life and enhance their ability to maintain an active un-retirement. By treating seniors as valued spiritual being we help seniors to help themselves, help each other and help other generations.”

            Two sentences and two glaring grammatical errors– yep, i was a CoS front.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I am REALLY intrigued by the statement, “maintain an active un-retirement.” Maybe the NESI simply moved over to the north end of Gold, where all those actively un-retired former executives are benefitting from its direct services, seminars and counseling.

            • BosonStark

              They should open up a service to help people with Alzheimer’s with estate planning. The future of Scientology is in people who are loaded but have severely impaired mental capacity.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Ahem. There is no Alzheimer’s, don’t you know. Clearly, you are a dupe of evil Psychs…!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              I believe it had more to do with problems of reaching their true purpose …. sucking grant $ up the nose.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Oh yeah. And then they must have found it wasn’t worth having to deal with all those pesky old people…

            • Observer

              That phrase caught my eye too, and made my blood run a little cold. Knowing how Scientology operates, it’s downright sinister.

        • FistOfXenu

          I guess they were “helped” to write a new will 1st?

          Say you don’t suppose they practiced this 1st on LRH do you?

          • Truthiwant

            “Sure we will get you a new body, but first, please sign your old family house over to Scientology Inc. We’re here to help you and in your next life time you will already be an Operating Thetan when you are born. The value of a house has nothing compared to that. Right?”

          • ThetaBara

            LRH went on his own, after admitting he’d failed. Wright has the dox.

            • Observer

              I wouldn’t be surprised if Little Davey gave him a nudge. Or a shove.

            • FistOfXenu

              But are those dox confirmed definitely not faked? And do they really prove LRH made a sound mind decision and wasn’t “helped”? If DM can alter Source why couldn’t he alter any dox LRH made before he died?

            • He did. He made a lot of changes to the bridge and had many policies written ‘for LRH’. Ron had said only policies approved by him, his wife and another were in force. That list of LRH approved policies was destroyed early on so anyone could write policies and say it was LRH.

            • Where can I see that?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Lawrence Wright’s book, “Going Clear”.

            • ThetaBara

              Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and the Prison of Belief by Lawrence Wright.

            • cool thank you

          • I don’t think they had the chance. In 1980 Ron was too heart broken about something and was as sick as a dog. He apparently turned over Scientology to only his most trusted who all got kicked out by DM before the bridge was ‘redone’.
            If they do have a home like that of course they would have the will go to the church and only to the church. If thier children hant sustain themselves then they should join the SO anyway in thier opinion.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Jason. There’s a thread over at ESMB by a man called: “A Face In the Crowd”. He is a terrific writer and I believe he will be creating a book out of his stories. He covers many years with LRH. He will tell you the truth, give you the facts. I can already hear in your comments the same phrases that come from the Indie crowd.

            • Anonymous
            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Thank you. I don’t want to put Jason off. I understand where his head is at the moment. But he needs to catch up on education for a career, and not just learn web stuff from other scientologists in the tech field. I know this trap, Jason, very very well.
              Scientology is a drug and public and staff alike start acting like addicts in every way. The Indies are correct when they point out that Miscavige has been mixing bad batches that don’t follow recipies. But they’re still in denial that it’s all a drug and all bad for you. Those temporary highs are not what you think they are and are bad for your mental and physical health.

              That’s why withdrawal needs to be done cold turkey, and that includes don’t hang out with any users or dealers. At best it just prolongs, and some it becomes too late.
              It’s just hard to see the pain that is emanating from behind that young man’s eyes and knowing if he takes certain routes from here, it just prolongs. Oh well, I am So preachy now. Turning myself off.
              Thanks for this link.

            • Bella Legosi

              I just wanted to personally congratulate you on really moving up the bridge to freedom Jason! And thank you for participating in Angry Gay Pope’s series! I have told Tory that it is those who have been “in” the church that do the most damage and it is those people who speak out that I always listen to first. I have never been in, but did work for a public or indie. What Marc said to you is true. Get all of it out some how. I find writing it all down, not stopping for spelling or punctuation, really really helps. It also helps to write them down and burn or put in a glass bottle and then break it too. That is if you don’t want to save what you have written, but the release of it all on paper is truly therapeutic. Keep talking brother. There is a whole community of people just like yourself and a whole lot more that keep you in their prayers or thoughts. Never feel like you are alone, because you are not and shall never be again! πŸ™‚

        • ThetaBara

          Ehrmahgerd

  • Off topic, but fun — Russell Brand on Conan O’Brien, talking about working with Tom Cruise on “Rock of Ages.” He jokes that he kept trying to entice Cruise to recruit him in, but it didn’t work.

    http://www.cnn.com/video/?hpt=hp_c4#/video/showbiz/2013/04/17/conan-russell-brand-scientology.team-coco

    “If there’s a cult that don’t want me, I want to know why!”

    • ThetaBara

      I guess even Tom could tell he was being trolled. Funny as hell though! Too bad he didn’t succeed! I’d love to hear Brand talk about THAT.

  • ThetaBara

    I’m looking for ideas for what to say to people who are in, to get them to question and consider leaving. Either for speaking or for signs. Any ideas for this?

    • Truthiwant

      Very difficult. I wish there was a phrase that you could say and it would get through to the brain washed mind of a Scientologist.
      The other day I had a suprise visit from a Scientologist who obviously didn’t know that I wanted nothing to do with them ever again and I said to this guy exactly what I thought of the Organization and it’s teachings. He listened to me. Other than that I have no idea what he was really thinking.

      • ThetaBara

        Yeah, I know it’s a tough one. I do think that at least some of them must be having some doubts, and it occurred to me that it might be worthwhile making some signs (or speaking directly with folks, if they’ll engage – many won’t, despite having taken the Comm Course, heh). So far I have:
        Freeloader Debt is NOT Legally Enforceable;
        Don’t Route Out, Just Blow, and
        If Scientology Gets Rid Of All Your Problems Why Can’t They Get Rid Of Anonymous? (Which is long but personally I think it’s really funny.)

        • Truthiwant

          Doubt is the saving for these people.

          I had doubt, but for a long time I still thought that the basic teachings were good. Then doubt began to get a bit stronger. I got in to discussions with non.Scientologists and I began to say that I agreed with them but that there were some good basic priniciples to Hubbard’s writings. Then the doubt began to really set in and I realized that I was conning myself. I went online and I couldn’t believe what I was reading about the truth of Scientology!!

          • ThetaBara

            I see that in your name. πŸ™‚ Thanks for the reply. I want to leverage that doubt!

            • Truthiwant

              I’m a real sucker for truth! I’ve seen too many things in my life that are lies

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          If I had ever gone on a Protest (it could happen), I would have used:
          OT=FAIL
          Tom Cruise
          3 Failed Marriages

          But I now think I would use:
          DOUBT IS OK
          All Your Stats Are False

          More succinct, and isn’t perceived as a personal attack on that nice no-longer-so-young man Tom Cruise.

          • but if you wanted to be effective in getting your message across you should say things like

            KSW please

            LRH says empty Orgs are a sign of out tech – what are YOU doing about it?

            LRH forbids international events – Why do you spend 600k on each one?

            Read HCOPL NO INTERFERRENCE zone and tell me what OT7’s have to do 6 months checks

            Why do you go by a definition of the floating needle that’s not in your Tech Dictionary?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I just love the statement “All your stats are false.” It’s so… so… arcane. Knowing that only true Scientologists will know the full import of the words makes it so cool for protests. Most civilians would assume it’s just some sort of internet or video game meme. It would look great on a t-shirt. And maybe wearing one in Hollywood would give Jenna Elfman another full-tilt aerobic workout!

          • BosonStark

            Although not poster size, my favorite is:

            If Tom Cruise can’t clear a wife, how is his space cult supposed to clear the planet?

        • Truthiwant

          Slightly shorter would be ‘If Scientology Handles All problems Why Can’t It Handle Anonymous?”

          or this would look good as you were strolling around protesting ” If Scientology Shatters Suppression Then Why Am I Still Here?”

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        I think the only thing that will get through is “You will not lose your eternity if you escape the abuse.”

        • ThetaBara

          Good one. Thank you.

        • Truthiwant

          You know when you get those chain e-mails that say that if you don’t forward it then something disastrous will happen to you. That’s exactly the technique of Scientology. And, shit, you believe them!

          • ThetaBara

            LOL! I used to try to convince people that forwarding those things was bad luck.
            πŸ˜‰
            It only sort of worked.
            Eventually, I got to the point where, when I got one I would think, “aww, So-And_So was thinking of me, how sweet!” as I deleted them.

      • I think the only thing you can say is something like ‘Im not a Scientologist any more because I think there’s out tech and off policy. Did you know LRH says empty orgs are a sign of that? And why does the church go by a definition of the floating needle (that’s just a way the meters needle will freely move) that isnt even in the tech dictionary? And why does the IAS ask for a lot of money when Ron forbid memberships? And why do we spend 600K on each international event when Ron forbid those events? And why to people on OT 7 when Ron also forbid then from doing that in HCOPL NO INTERFERRENCE ZONE. If you’re really a SO member you should try to handle those things!’

        If you say those things to SO members via letter or phone you will see many more of them wake up and first try to handle those things before asking for a place to stay.

        • Truthiwant

          I agree with you, Jason.

          This would certainly make the Scientologist think that there is something far wrong with Management and of course, Miscavige in person.

          After that he can decide for himself if L. Ron Hubbard’s writings are worth pursuing or not and hence the whole subject of Scientology.

    • dagobarbz

      IT’S OKAY TO HAVE DOUBTS. YOUR DOUBTS ARE VALID.
      Several now-ex Scilons have said that this ^^^^ got them thinking which started the exit process rolling.

      • ThetaBara

        Thank you, this is exactly what I am looking for!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      It’s OK to Doubt: All Your Stats Are False

      Scientologists live and breathe Hubbard’s stats system. From those accounts of those who lave left, it sounds like most scientologists are definitely having doubts. This means they will try to go through the ethics condition of Doubt which is all about gathering up statistics. There’s a line in there about “without bias”. No matter what, scientologists today know that the stats just don’t add up. They can’t talk to each other about this, but they one way or another, they know it. Let them you know the stats are suspect too.

      • ThetaBara

        Thanks, this is great.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Fascinating. When I was a child, I sometimes expressed doubts about my family’s Christian faith. My mother assured me that doubt was simply a “trick” of the “Enemy” (ie: Satan) to turn me against God. For a child, this was a plausible and simple way to deal with this. Years later, as I got older and able to analyze things for myself, my mother explained that it is no sin to have doubts, and that, in fact, examining doubts can strengthen faith and weed out superstitious belief.

        But Scientologists are kept in an infantile state, forbidden to even entertain the idea of doubt.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          True that. I can tell you that almost every person involved in scientology has a great deal of trouble with this ethics step. That’s because it’s just Control Manipulation Device #1299 in scientology. The scientology journey on the bridge that goes up, not across, is a one-way path. All steps lead to one thing and one thing only: More money for the con man at the top.

        • or look on the internet. IN Scientology that is the biggest crime.

          • sugarplumfairy

            And now you know why.. Thank goodness you’re out, Jason.. Best wishes..

          • Truthiwant

            I wrote this short essay on why Scientology doesn’t work. It maybe of interest to you.

            http://wp.me/s3a0JR-85

            • aquaclara

              This is an excellent essay, Truth. Loved reading this. Thanks.

    • FistOfXenu

      If you passed the Comms Course why are you afraid to talk to me?

      • ThetaBara

        They are not “afraid” they just “choose not to.” But, yeah.

        • FistOfXenu

          They can say what they like. Sure as hell doesn’t look like that can communicate freely to anybody about any thing. Maybe they’re scared of getting sec checked to find out what entheta they heard and if they’ve been turned PTS?

    • ThetaBara

      Wow. What happened to all my other comments here?!

      • Refresh and maybe they’ll come back. Disqus is stuck in an electronic incident again. Time to change the eternal battery?

      • FistOfXenu

        Welcome to the wonderful world of Disqus ThetaBara. Totally random appearance and disappearance of messages, I’ve even seen people’s answers to questions that weren’t asked when they answered. Disqus is like some kind of dream where impossible stuff happens.

        • Brainslugged

          You just blew my mind.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Jason, you are a very brave young man, and you understand that telling your story will help others who still are being abused. It is amazing that you are able to speak out so soon after escaping, and that you are healing mentally and physically so quickly. A strong, vocal Jason Barclay is Miscavige’s worst nightmare. While you are healing and moving on, I urge you to consult a lawyer. So much harm was inflicted on you when you were a minor, as well as when you were an adult. The church must be stopped from doing this to future, young Jasons. Your story may be the “straw that breaks the Carmel’s back.”

    • I sure hope so. I think I may have to learn to tell my story more efficiently for the mass media, then maybe we can really put in some ethics!

      • aquaclara

        Thanks so much, Jason, for your story. It had me in tears, and it is hard to imagine what it took for you to finally cut the strings with the cult. Please keep posting and sharing online. Today was a crazy day, and we were all a little distracted. But your story goes beyond this one single day. Be safe, and keep taping, sharing and of course, blogging here on the Bunker. We tend to give hugs quite often to our new friends! Hugs!

        • thank you πŸ™‚ – I thought it was cool too see these videos and story on a german site too =D

      • Brainslugged

        Well done for speaking out, Jason. Make sure the time and money the cult took from you isn’t wasted by continuing to speak out and refusing to let them silence you. Hopefully you will give others the courage to leave, and law enforcemet more ammunition to end the abuses for good.

  • One especially heartbreaking part of Jason’s story is having to do the meter check before catching the flight home to his family. These people are unimaginably cruel. The only type of happiness they can endorse or allow is that which comes from being an abuser.

    Scientology. It’s always worse than you thought.

  • So the guy and his mother are dimwits.

    Still, I had to laugh when I read “…filmmaker Angry Gay Pop…” LOL!

    • What a thoroughly enlightened comment — so pithy and vastly entertaining.

    • Midwest Mom

      Hey, D,B.A., Be nice. You don’t need to be so rude. I’m taking away your computer time until you can show some manners. Get your pajamas on, brush your teeth, and get to bed. Now!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Don’t mess with this mom, if you know what’s good for you!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Sounds to me like you’re still frocked..

    • i-Betty

      We adore Jason, and – by default – his mum. So go find a message board that caters more for your kind of vitriol. πŸ™‚

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Maybe off topic, maybe not. Has anyone looked to see if W. Scott Harrington, the Oklahoma dentist is a Scilon? His behavior seems to fit right into that of someone being pressured for donations and services.

    http://www.cnn.com/2013/04/18/health/oklahoma-dentist-investigation/index.html?hpt=hp_t5

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      His name does not appear in the online registry of Scientologists:
      http://on-line.scientology.org/cntinent/Namerica/USA/oklahoma/index.htm

      (Of course, there are only about 16,000 names in the registry, and as there are presently between 10 and 20 million Scientologists in the world, some names are bound to be missing…!)

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Thx for checking!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Wow. When Jason was sucked into the Sea Org at age 13, he was slated to be a Super Power auditor, how many years ago?

    I’m trying to imagine a 13-year old barking commands over the hum of a reverberating Oiliness table to a well heeled and manicured 70-Something patron.

    Since Miscavige has promised (and he really, really means it this time) to open up the 11th Wonder of the World this year, I’m wondering if the Super Power auditors will only be available after kindergarten lets out.

  • California

    A compilation of Narconon lawsuit information over at EXSCN.net:

    20 and counting

    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?31285-Narconon-Lawsuits-20-ongoing-new-case-DAVID-G-URE-VS-NARCONON-VISTA-BAY

  • Good job Karen and Jason. This should be job 1 for anyone who leaves COS and has the will to do so. That is to expose the abuse of the org and be as much a thorn in the side of the org as possible. And if everyone who escapes tells of the abuse they receive in the org. over time the org will, hopefully lose it’s power over the public. And the org will be forced to spend more time and energy dealing with the bad PR.

  • Jory

    $cientology = Cult! Cult! Cult!

  • i-Betty

    Huge love and hugs to you, Jason. I think what you are doing is so courageous, and I’m completely delighted to hear you are writing a book. Your story is so important because it is contemporary. Best love, Betty xxx

  • Jason,

    Yes, write a book and be sure to name names, use all the lingo, don’t worry. Later on others can explain things in whatever you write.

    I think the more details the better, for history, shows how things change or stay the same, the more details you give about what you experienced firsthand!

    Chuck Beatty
    Ex-Sea Org (lifetime staffer, 1975-2003)
    Flag Dec 1975-Jun 1983 (TTC, Sup, Word Clearer, D of T, etc.)
    Int Base 1983-1984 (Routing Forms Pjt)
    Snr HCO Int in the FB in LA 1984-87
    Course Supervisor Re-Training (Int and LA) 87-88
    Int Training Org, LA 88 (Sec Checker Sup)
    LRH Tech Research and Comps, CMO Int, (Sept 88-Feb 89)
    Int RPF (Feb-Mar 89)
    PAC RPF (Mar-May 89)
    Int Training Org (May-Sept 89) (Admin Sup)
    INCOMM Sep 89-Sept 90 (Routing Forms Pjt)
    INCOMM Sept 90-May92 (Computer Room LA & Int)
    ASI May 92-Dec95 (Computer Room, In-Training Esto)
    Decks Int (Dec 95-Jun 96)
    Int RPF (Jun 96-Nov 2000)
    PAC RPF (Nov 2000-Mar2003)
    Routed out March 29, 2003.
    Chuckbeatty77(at)aol.com

    866-XSEAORG toll free advice

  • Richross

    Congratulations on leaving, Jason. Good luck to you and your mother moving forward. For anyone here who defected, did you lose faith in the religious beliefs while simultaneously becoming disenfranchised with the Church, or did they happen at separate times?