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Scientology Getting It From All Sides: The Tampa Bay Times Looks at 2010 FBI Investigation

The Tampa Bay Times has published the first half of a two-part series on what happened to the 2010 FBI investigation into Scientology.

We wrote our own story about that in March 2012. We found that despite talking to many ex-church members who alleged human trafficking abuses, the FBI lost steam and its investigation resulted in no charges being filed. (More recently, we broke the news that the Department of Homeland Security took up where the FBI left off, but also seems to be having issues with its investigation.)

The Times also put together this great 19-minute video about Scientology’s bizarre office-prison for executives, called “The Hole,” and it features interviews with former church spokesman Mike Rinder and former Sea Org worker John Brousseau.

Wow, the Church of Scientology just cannot catch a break this month. Seems like we’ve been dealing with big breaking stories nearly every day in 2013, and there’s so much more to come.

On Monday, the Tampa Bay Times will publish the second part of its series, and we have a feeling we’ll learn a lot more about why the FBI’s investigation didn’t turn into a prosecution by the Justice Department or US Attorney’s Office.

On Wednesday, the Nancy Many docudrama will air on Investigation Discovery network at 10 pm.

On Thursday, Lawrence Wright’s book, Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood, and the Prison of Belief comes out, and will be accompanied by a slew of media features and reviews.

And let’s not forget our Sunday Funnies, which we love to put up each week after collecting the latest Scientology mailers from our tipsters.

Hey, it’s Sunday! Let’s have some Funnies!

This first item is pretty cheeky, as we learn that Scientologists are encouraged to make daily visits to and other sites and post positive reviews about L. Ron Hubbard books, or go to Google maps and leave glowing accounts about Scientology facilities. Hey, that’s cheating!


With its drug rehab program mired in controversy, perhaps it makes sense that Scientology is placing more and more emphasis these days on its vague support for “human rights”…


We love the very idea of solo auditing. Just think about it: You pay Scientology tens of thousands of dollars to take home some materials and then quiz yourself on the e-meter. It’s got to be worth it!


Nothing beats the excitement of an OT VIII on a world tour, does it?




The latest in this inspiring series of ads that no doubt is leading to a rush of new staff members…


And finally, we have some news from Los Angeles. Earlier today, this man, Jim Lynch, showed up at the house of former church member Karen de la Carriere.


Lynch is an ex-journalist who now works for Scientology’s propaganda magazine, Freedom. He’s a blunt instrument that the church sends out when it wants to bludgeon people with inane questions.

Today, he was asking for an opinion about the way we characterized Marty Rathbun’s home as a “halfway house” for independent Scientologists. That isn’t quite what we said (we said the independent movement itself was a sort of halfway house, meaning a halfway step on the way out of Scientology altogether for some people), but we feel for Jim, being sent out to ask lame questions when the real story is that his boss, David Miscavige, isn’t faring very well in major exposes exploding in the nation’s press.

If you see Jim, please let him know what’s really going on.


Posted by Tony Ortega on January 13, 2013 at 00:00

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  • wannabeclear

    Surprised there hasn’t been more of a concerted effort to post negative reviews of $cientology books on Amazon and other sites — though there are quite a few, they seem to be outnumbered by the glowing reviews of the delusional flock. Although, I guess with all the bad publicity, it’s likely not necessary. Can’t wait for the upcoming book releases and media blitzes. Plus, more from the Tampa Bay Times. Woo hoo!

    • jensting

      why post negative reviews of books ranked in the low end of top ten (or below) when one can be posting glowing reviews of the top sellers (critical books, all)?


    All these world tours and I haven’t seen shit

    Michael Chan the gutter man. Great, another scam to watch out for.

    Bi-Lingual Rumaldo speaks both Spanish and Mexican? How can he Honor Roll IAS membership on a staff salary?

    • Poor Rumaldo. 20 years and the only auditing he’s gotten is happiness rundown???!!! What’s wrong with this picture?

      Looking forward to reading Tampabaytimes tomorrow with my coffee. Night y’all

      • AND THAT TIE, don’t forget the tie. I certainly won’t!

        • burythenuts

          You have been having nightmares about those ties…haven’t you?
          Come on…fess up…

      • Semper Phi

        Oh, that jumped out at me, too. 20 years, and not even to Grade 0 yet. Well, that’s the Staff Con for you — “Oh, you can’t afford to buy your Bridge? Well, join staff and you can go up the Bridge for free while you are working to clear the planet!!” Uh huh.

        • moxonmoxoff

          and yet . . . NO CASE ON POST!

          the contradictions are endless . . .

  • DodoTheLaser

    HelluvaHoax! from ESMB is pretty good at predicting scientology future. This kind of reply from the scientology people probably won’t happen soon, but it’s getting there.

    The scenario I’d like to see happening in scientology world, independent or otherwise, in the near future:

    “It would be a “mandatory briefing” to all Scientologists worldwide where they would say:

    “Hey, we have some pretty bad news. We have been lying about being a religion in order to scam the tax agencies. And we have been raising hundreds of millions in donations for all those
    fraud projects like Ideal Orgs, SuperPower and Library Donations. Sorry about that.

    And we lied about Clear and OT too. Our bad.

    Listen, there is a bright side to this. After we register properly as a business and begin paying taxes and
    minimum wage, we will not be selling Clear or OT any more. But we will call it, instead, “Ron’s feel good talk therapy”.

    We are getting rid of the Sea Org because that was a total embarrassment and we didn’t do anything except cave people in and take their money.

    We are going to openly admit to the public that Xenu is the most important thing in Scientology because it is the
    OT levels and without that we believe we are doomed for eternity.

    We are going to admit that we never stopped disconnection and that Fair Game was never canceled. We are going to admit all of our decades of criminal activities.

    We are also going to release all the crazy secrets we have been hiding about Ron, starting with the fact that he
    was really nuts and sick when he died and that he didn’t go to Target II. Sorry about all that.

    We are also going to stop lying every time a whistleblower tells what we are doing. We are going to fire all of our
    lying lawyers and criminal PIs too. And we are going to release our financial records so you can see the hundreds of millions of dollars that went to Hubbard and Miscavige personally.

    The whole thing is really FUBAR and we don’t know if its even possible to keep Scientology alive after this
    gets out, but we just don’t want to lie, defraud and steal people’s money and dreams any more. We hope you will forgive us and forgive yourselves.

    And last of all, none of us know any more than you do. Miscavige didn’t know any more and Hubbard didn’t know any more. Nobody had any special abilities. There were no Clears or OTs ever made we are very sorry to say.

    There was no “Total Freedom” and no “eternity” and no “Bridge”. Honestly? There wasn’t anyone who could
    go exterior either including Ron, he just theorized or made all that up.

    One more thing… all the people we said were “SPs” were actually honest people telling the truth about what we
    were doing all this time.

    Finally, we won’t be trying to sell you anything after this event. You are free to leave any time you want. And,
    no, you don’t have to write a success story either.”

    THIS^^^should be displayed in the reception area of every scientology org, IMO.

    • q-bird

      😀 !!! standing. clapping. cheering!
      2013 is a good year and getting better all the time.
      Thanks dodo… for sayin’ it exactly like you did here.

    • Unex Skcus

      FUBAR… describes Co$ perfectly 🙂

      • richelieu jr

        I respectfully disagree- It has always been thus, therefore the better acronym would be:



        Situation Normal All Fucked Up (as per LRH’s Bull Shit)

    • moxonmoxoff

      THAT IS AWESOME. Take a page from the Scilon page book: print it out and post it around the org neighborhoods. It’s not nearly as bad as some of the things Scilons have done to folks who have left the “church” (e.g., posters falsely stating someone is a child molester, etc.).

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      And about those billions of $$$ we sucked out of all you loyal customers … we’re setting up a college fund including room and board and materials as needed for any former customers so they or their children or grandchildren can get a Real education and a Real job and if they need psychological counseling first, we’ll throw that in too. Sorry about that kids.

  • I LOVE YOU TONY! You really know how to make me laugh out loud. Man it sucks to be David Miscavige.

  • sillyrabbit

    Hey Joy and Annette,

    You know that doctor you’re off to see tomorrow? You know, the one that guaranteed that cure you were after? The one with all those super duper glowing fantastical customer reviews that you completely trusted because… well hey, word of mouth is the most trustworthy form of advertisement?

    Yeah that Doctor.

    Just wanted you to know that they had two people working full time on repeatedly getting as many solicited positive reviews as they could. In fact it would appear that none of those reviews are unprompted, authentic or genuine at all. The people making the reviews were told what to write even. Can you believe that? I know right… how could they be so irresponsible? I mean here you are spending every penny you have to save your life based on “genuine, word of mouth reviews” that aren’t genuine and the words were put in their mouths for them.

    Scary how low some people will go to get business isn’t?

    But hey… good luck with that thing you’re trying to get a cure for.

    Christ you guys make me sick.

    • richelieu jr

      This is the sort of political genius who one the school election with votes fro Micky Mouse, Seymore Buttz and R.U. Agoose… Sheesh!

  • DeElizabethan

    Yes, yes, please go to the internet and Amazon see what other Scientology books show up, he,he.
    Inter net, inter net, inter net. yea!

    Human Rights celebration – free and semi-formal attire, meaning only those with bucks left in the bank.

    On OT3 one learns what thwarting one’s survival = XENU!

    Urgent Date Change to hear Michael Chan, then complimentary dinner, wow! They didn’t know the date of the incredible Flag World Tour event happening? Guess they can’t plan too far ahead these days, plus looks like they’ve run out of Americans.

    Always liked the that command “BE THERE!” revolving in my head, yes, Nooooooooooooooo!

    Rumaldo with the tie, an Italian, isn’t he sexy. I’ll bet his country Org misses him. Come to LA and you can help him “influence the entire world”

    Lynch from Free dumb mag calling on Karen? Hope she gives him a scoop of poop! Well, he has to act busy, huh?

    Well had for my funnies for the day, thanks Tony!

  • DeElizabethan

    Love the TBT article. Hope to see lots of comments. Got mine in.

  • Midwest Mom

    Aye! I am seeing spots before my eyes from looking at that Flag poster! The Co$ appears to be using leftover posters from the 1982 World’s Fair, which was held in Knoxville, Tennessee.

    Why did the RTC hyphenate the word “bilingual” on Rumaldo’s poster?

    Why is the Michael Chan testimonial letter/ invitation/Sizzler Steak advertisement such a mess? Who is Phil La Claire and did he receive God’s okay to use His name to guarantee success in a Scientology money making seminar?

    Why does the letter from the Hochmans (soliciting reviews for Amazon, Google, and Yelp) mix up the personal pronouns “we” and “I”?

    I won’t pinpoint every mistake since it is elevating my blood pressure.

    I do wish to extend a big “hello” to Jim Lynch, who is a regular reader here at this blog. It’s interesting to get the heads up that he is making plans to hide out at the Rathburn’s home in Texas. Great news! I hope he remembers to alert the post office about his change of address. 🙂

  • Espiando

    I really hope that Karen gave him the full Class XII treatment: VI in the right testicle and VI in the left.

    And actually advertising to astroturf Amazon? Yeah, we all know that they’re doing it, but to actually advertise it? That’s pathetic, even for them. Go do something that’s more constructive, like playing in traffic.

    As for the hyphen in “bi-lingual”, in the words of Triple H, “There’s lots of things bi I am…”

    Well, nothing to do but wait for the standard Sunday Funnies missive from Capitalism Global HQ and bask in John’s radiant analysis.

  • Deckard__Cain

    I just saw Russell Peters perform tonight and I laughed my ass off for 2 hours then I come home, turn on the computer and come to my favorite site, hoping to see more things to laugh at. But somehow the botched FBI story isn’t so funny. You really know how to be a buzz kill, Tony.

  • whingeybingey

    You can see why Lynch would wear dark glasses. The embarrassment must be excruciating.

    • mirele

      I knew that journalists are getting desperate for work (which is why I thank my lucky stars I didn’t get that bachelor of journalism back in ’82), but this is even worse than working for the National Enquirer. Back in 1982, the Enquirer paid *very* good money for “journalism,” but it was evil work. Now the Enquirer is almost respectable and people like Jim Lynch are reduced to shilling for the cult of greed and power. Ewwwww.

      • The National Enquirer is based in Boca Raton, the same place Lynch lives. Coincidence?

        • whingeybingey

          I think not! Lol!

      • whingeybingey

        Exactly. I don’t know how he looks in the mirror to shave.

  • AnyOldName1

    Co$ is going to be celebrating “Human Rights”? I think they forgot the word, “Violation”. Maybe couldn’t spell it?

    Poor Karen, having that bozo on her doorstep. Worse than the Squirrel Busters. At least they were dressed as clowns.

  • DodoTheLaser

    The stupid hurts my eyes. 2013 = Scientology, RIP.

  • Deckard__Cain

    “Rathbun also threw the FBI a curve. He suggested human trafficking might be a tough case to build. The church can say workplace restrictions, discipline, even chasing after runaways are constitutionally protected religious practices, rooted in Scientology scripture.”

    Errrrr……what? White courtesy phone to Tikk, Mr. Tikk please pick up the white courtesy phone.

  • Unex Skcus

    “Scientologists are encouraged to make daily visits to and other sites”. Is someone pulling my leg? Now the remaining Co$ faithful are being *encouraged” to go online? BIG MISTAKE for Co$, methinks. DM getting just a tad desperate?

    • Ze Moo

      Anyone who believes ‘customer reviews’ of any product or service on the internet is a fool. Marketing companies (a specialty of Lroners) joined the search engine ranking game some time ago and have made good money fleecing customers into thinking their services would help their business. The only effective social marketing is word of mouth from someone the potential customer trusts. Web based social marketing is a fad that will disappear with dial up AOL and Compuserv billboards. Search engine rankings are another matter and all search engines try to filter out attempts to inflate rankings done for marketing purposes. Sterling Management will be in the ‘social marketing’ business when all the dentists dump them.

      • Cerulean Blu

        You can look at averages to assess the validity of online reviews.

        If a product is consistently receiving both “excellent” and “terrible” reviews, with nothing in between, it’s safe to assume something fishy is happening there. This seems to be the case with most of LRH’s crappy products.

    • AnyOldName1

      Yeah, I just went to, entered Scientology in the search bar and got (1st page results):

      1) “Going Clear” – L. Wright (Hardcover)
      2) “Inside Scientology” – J. Reitmann (Kindle)
      3) “Inside Scientology” – J. Reitmann (Hardcover)
      4) “Blown for Good” – M. Headley (Paperback)
      5) “Beyond Belief” – J.Miscavige Hill (Hardcover)
      6) “Going Clear” – L. Wright (Hardcover)
      7) “Scientology Exposed” – LA Klein (Paperback) *
      8) “Scientology: Fundamentals of Thought” – LRon Hubbard (Paperback)
      9) “Scientology Exposed” – LA Klein (Kindle) *
      10) Scientology: Abuse at the Top” – A. Scobee
      11) “What is Scientology” – Boyd Grant *
      12) “My Billion Year Contract” – Nancy Many (Paperback)
      13) “Dianetics” – L.R.Hubbard (Paperback) – LUCKY #13!!!!
      14) “Scientology: The Ex-Files” – (Video)
      15) “A History of the Church of Scientology” – H. Urban (Hardcover) *
      16) “Counterfeit Dreams” – J. Hawkins

      Yes, it’s a really good idea to send cult members to Amazon to review books. They might actually hit on some entheta…..

      * – Not familiar with these books – could be cult propaganda, someone cashing in on current events or maybe legit?

      • Cerulean Blu

        Awesome post!!

      • Bob

        Lets give a huge round of applause to David Miscavaige. Highest ever top 10 book list on Amazon. Only ONE actual LRH Scientology book in the top 10!!!!! And yet he boosts of now having 4.5 trillion books in circulation and more on the way. Where are these books going? I suspect that the increased alien space traffic is due to billions of books being exported to the four corners of our galaxy. Commenters step up to the plate and donate funds to put books in libraries across the galaxy.

      • Chocolate Velvet

        I came across “Scientology Exposed” and the other on Amazon, and I wondered about them too. Both were originally published as free ebooks. “Exposed” is now for sale in hardcopy.

        I thought this, from a customer review, sums it up nicely:
        “At first, I assumed this was poorly disguised Scientologist propaganda (as the title is the inflammatory “Scientology Exposed: The Truth about the Most Controversial Religion,” immediately followed by the introduction stating that this will be a fair and balanced look at Scientology, which immediately means that either the title OR the introduction is purposely misleading), but as I kept reading, I realized that it was just poorly written. This is essentially a 100-pg Wikipedia entry about Scientology, without the benefit of group editing. If you ever had a college paper due at 8:30am, and just realized that it’s already past 2am, you will know fully the lack of care, detail, support, proofreading and structure that went into making this thing.”

        It’s a whole new world, where anyone can publish a “book”. These two have been suspiciously loaded with 5-star reviews, hence the ranking on Amazon. I guess it’s hard to be mad at something you got for free…

      • jensting

        Hugh Urban’s book is very, very, legit. Recommended

    • We can fight back too, you know. Every time I see a scibot review of a book on Amazon, I not only comment that it is a scibot review, I report it to Amazon, as not one of the scibot reviewers are actually purchasers so are abusing the review process. I don’t know if it makes a difference, but it makes me feel better.

  • Joe Hochman has been very busy on Amazon himself. He currently posts under the name “Insider”, although Scientologist reviewers are fond of changing their pseudonyms from time to time:

    This particular review led to an interesting comment thread:

    It includes comments from James Mourgos (currently Scotman666) who is the busiest online contributor of reviews and comments on reviews.

    • You certainly tie them in knots! Reading that I got the impression that Insider and Scotman66 are the same person. How do you know Insider is Hochman?

      • A little detective work outed the insider. I copied parts of some of his reviews and Googled them. That took me to their website, where the same text appeared. Comparing some comments in his reviews with some facts on his website (number of years in business, etc) showed that it must be the same person. His son Richard also posts positive Hubbard reviews under a pseudonym. He had his real name on his Wish List, so he wasn’t difficult to trace.

        No, Scotman is not Hochman. He is James J Mourgos:

        He is very busy on the web. If you google ‘Mourgos dianetics’ or similar, you’ll find loads on him. He comments on every negative review of Hubbard’s books, so he will comment on yours soon.

        • Thanks for the information. Great detective work! I do admire your comments on those threads and hope I handle his forthcoming response as well as you have. With all his comments I wonder how he does anything in his life but comment on reviews. Sad, really.

  • Unex Skcus

    Another awesome piece by TBT; Tobin and Childs are right on form. And thanks Tony, for always finding these gems.

  • dagobarbz

    “The state of Clear is so far advanced from any previous spiritual state Man has achieved, that a Clear can feel at the top of the mountain.”

    See, this is why Dianetics put me into a coma. What is this I don’t even…I can’t read this shit, it just pisses me off.

    • richelieu jr

      King of Bullshit Mountain*… BFD…

      *(not FoxNews this time, thanks to John Stewart)

    • Barbara & Jack Sevy

      RE: Phil LaClaire.

      For the record, I hired Phil LaClaire 20 years ago as a business consultant. I found him consistently
      truthful, on purpose, and genuinely seeking to make and teach
      principles that would benefit not only himself and me, but the whole
      world. He is also very intelligent, and a dedicated family man. I hope that,
      though I sold the business and relocated about a year after hiring him,
      he considers me a friend, as I certainly consider him.

      I am not, and have never been, a Scientologist. Phil and I had many conversations comparing our religions. I came away with great respect for L Ron Hubbard.

      Jonathan Sevy, DC

      • 1subgenius

        Kind words and nicely spoken.
        Did you fact check what he told you about L.Ron Hubbard, or do any independent research into L. Ron Hubbard?

        • Barbara & Jack Sevy

          Yes. I have a congenital defect that makes me throw up at the word “Naive”.

          • 1subgenius


      • dagobarbz

        Truthful on purpose?

        You mean as opposed to unintentional truthiness?

  • Is it just me or is that Solo Auditing flyer coming dangerously close to just outright saying Xenu?

  • Rick Mycroft

    The Wall of Fire thing is a bit of a problem. Hubbard said that he was the first being to get through it, and it almost killed him. The trouble is, he also said that he arrived on Earth relatively recently in a previous life. (He parked the spaceship in Europe some place, but now can’t find the keys.)

    That means that he wasn’t on Earth/Teegeak for the whole Xenu / Xemu / Incident II / Wall of Fire implant. In other words, he didn’t have the implant that he said he solved.

    I know, I know, it’s like trying to make sense of comic book mythology. Speaking of which…

  • News from Germany. The number of Scientology members in Germany last year declined again and is currently about 4,000 members. A homland-security agent told the “Focus Magazine”, that the downward tendency continues.

    • John P.

      I would love more information about the math behind this number, preferably in English since I don’t speak German. It’s surprising that there are apparently more Scientologists in Germany, a country where the cult has been actively regulated by the government, than in the UK, where (although the cult is not really tax exempt) it is not as heavily regulated, and where the cult has major international operations with lots of employees.

      When a counter-intuitive result appears, the first thing to do is to check and make sure that all the numbers are computed the same way. If this is a survey with a margin of error, then it’s possible that the number would be higher, because the UK number was a census question, where everyone in the country was asked their religion, and the sampling error is thus fairly close to zero.

      By contrast, the American Religious Identification Survey from (I think) 2008 said there were 25,000 Scientologists but the margin for error was something like 55,000, which means that there could be anything from zero to 80,000. In the case of the ARIS survey, other numbers rule out anything like the higher limit, and recent data points suggest that even 25,000 is high.

      • Ze Moo

        There is very little regulating of CO$ in Germany. They used to ‘monitor’ (undercover agents would attend events and watch the marketing) the CO$ for fraud, but they stopped that a year or two ago to send the agents into mosques to monitor Islamic radicals. There are Idle Morges in Berlin and Munich and missions or probably just rented space all over Germany. The religious rights violation Tom Cruise and other allege is mostly one of not giving CO$ a religious tax exemption.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        The survey was taken in April 20008, so it is approaching 5 years old. A lot has happened in the last 5 years. All you have to do to see how that 25,000 has plummeted is look at any of on the scene videos of the orgs taken by the protestors, either on WWP or ESMB. The only crowds you see are at openings of Ideal Orgs, with most being bussed in. These Class 5 orgs have to be manned up by Sea Org members at the top, and stealing staff from other orgs. Within one year, the videos will show a couple of staff and 1 or 2 public, with some buildings already crumbling, or utility bills in arrears. Videos of L Ron Hubbard Way in PAC, Los Angeles, show mostly sea org grunts running around, but even those are few and the public you’ll see a couple here and there. Walking down that street used to be like walking down any street in Manhattan at rush hour. Clearwater downtown is a ghost town, mostly Sea Org and Class 5 org staff forced to come to Flag to fill up the rosters. Graduate listings in the mags show most public are doing small courses, some that can be done at home. So the upper orgs, after cannibalizing the Class 5 org’s paying customers are now cannibalizing the Class 5 org’s staff. Major events now require bussing in Sea Org staff to fill seats. Scientology is now at the last stage of devouring its own tail. I’m waiting for Miscavige to turn on his own staff, the lawyers and the accountants. I don’t add up more than 4,000 to 5,000 staff worldwide, and 2,000 to 3,000 public, and out of those, 700 (based on IAS lists) that have any assets left to extract.

        • DeElizabethan

          Excellent post.

      • It is not an survey! The magazine ” Focus” published this information today, under reference to a current evaluation from Federal Office for the protection for the Constitution. In the peak period the counted about 6.000 Scientologists; in the year 2011 there were still 4500 members. The Cult itself claim 12.000 members (since years …)

  • I don’t know about Amazon in the US but in the UK you can only write a review if you’ve bought the item in question. So, ironically, any OSAbot wanting to write a crap review for Sweeney’s book would have to purchase it.

    • AnyOldName1

      Actually, Amazon, Google & Yelp take their reviews somewhat seriously. If someone could forward the above email to them them with a complaint. Not sure if they would take a jpg image seriously, though.

    • jensting

      No worries. The best they have so far is John Wood who sings the praises of narCONon but writes little about the book. You gotta wonder whose side he’s on; maybe he just does not find it in his heart to completely endorse the claim from the criminal organisation known as the “church” of $cientology that David Miscavige in not insane. Easier to defend narCONon, I suppose.

  • John P.

    Amazon bogus review e-mail: Yes, this campaign is really effective. The planet is happier, as the e-mail says. I am sure that membership is utterly booming because of the campaign to put up false reviews on Yelp. There must be thousands of people every week out driving in their car who decide to do a search asking for “highest rated money-sucking flying saucer cult within 5 miles.” Every single one of those people are now going to read a positive review of Scientology’s local org and head right in. Win!

    Human rights celebration: As Tony pointed out, this is amazing that the cult is not even trying to sell people on any real benefit to their events. It sounds like they’re getting tired of trying to make up words to position each event as the Most. Amazing. Ever. No psychic benefits in terms of speeding your progress up “the Bridge.” No “amazingly huge amounts of fun.” Not even “clearing the planet.” Just “uplifting and colorful international performances.” And given Scientology’s cultural sensitivity, I suspect this will be whiter-than-white staff dressed up in different costumes from around the world. One could get a more authentic international experience riding the “It’s a Small World” ride at Disneyland.

    “Inspiration” column from AOSH UK: Just when you thought they have totally de-emphasized super powers, this Brit reveals that “the state of Clear is so far advanced from any previous spiritual state Man has achieved, that a Clear can feel at the top of the mountain.” I am wondering if this is a relatively literal analogy, talking about the sense of unreality and disconnectedness that one feels at the top of mountains over 20,000 feet high due mainly to lack of oxygen. I can understand why, with ideas like this about being “clear,” Hubbard felt that he was the reincarnation of the Buddha and that, after he published “Song of Asia,” all those Buddhists who had spent decades chasing brief moments of spiritual enlightenment, would consent to anoint him their leader.

    Michael Chan seminar: It’s quite interesting that The Google has not been able to locate any more information on the fabled business career of WISE super-reg Michael Chan. I can’t even find any evidence of other speaking engagements he’s done at other orgs, beyond a gig at the Pasadena org. So all this leads me to wonder why I am going to see a guy whose success has left absolutely no footprints on “teh intertubes.” Well, apparently, there’s an answer. In the letter, testimonial writer Mr. Phil LaClaire says “He now operates on a ‘Phase II’ basis, which means he is not there on a day to day basis — it operates without him there at all.” So in other words, he has every Scientologist’s dream: a job that just pays him for no actual work. A company that practically runs itself. Easy money, the apparent dream of all Scientologists, which enables you to mail in checks to you can have (as the flyer promises) “a very high status in the IAS.” Note, BTW, that they don’t tell you exactly what his status is…

    Flag World Tour: I thought the above “Human Rights Celebration” was the most content-free flyer that I had seen from the cult. But in one week they topped themselves. There is absolutely no information in the flyer for this event that makes me want to attend. But this flyer is also incredibly efficient: since there’s no reason that I might want to attend this event, the cult has made it simple for me to not attend the event by failing to insert a phone number or e-mail address for anyone actually interested in attending to signal their desire to do so. And when this event comes up completely empty, I wonder if they’ll figure out why. It would be fun for LA based anons to “happen” to be in the Bonaventure and try to count nametags or otherwise measure the lack of attendance at this event…

    The California Ballroom at the Westin Bonaventure (per is 26,108 square feet and holds 3,000 for receptions or 2,350 for banquets. Renting this space is an amazingly optimistic move, given that the cult can’t fill the auditorium with like numbers for the LRH Birthday Event, one of the most supreme religious observances on the annual cult calendar. This makes me really curious to have someone cruise by this particular event.

    As I write this, I’m reminded of the mockingly self-congratulatory song by classic San Francisco cult rock band The Tubes called “The Tubes World Tour,” talking about the wake of chaos and illicit teenage liaisons they leave in their wake. The chorus:

    The Tubes World Tour
    A mighty important crusade
    Tres chouette mi amore
    The Tubes world tour-e
    We’ll be leaving as soon as we’re paid.

    Jim Lynch at Karen De La Carriere’s house: I would love to hear Karen’s account of this little bit of “confront and shatter.” Given what I know of Karen, it sounds like she probably ended up having a battle of wits with an unarmed opponent.

    • Observer

      Karen has posted this on OCMB:

      Scientology paid whores doing harrassment tours !
      I have Closed circuit TV recording of it.
      I am seeing if I can upload on video.
      He said he wanted info on Marty and Tony Ortega ~~ that’s right, like I would co-operate
      What complete lunatics they are.
      Lynch and I drove a very nice car but NO LICENSE PLATES !
      LAPD very interested.
      Told us if they return, “Please keep them there LONGER til we send a black and white.”
      They said they would have gotten the ID of the PI.
      Jim Lynch is likely to “do the rounds” in Los Angeles.
      They fled when Post security showed up and parked behind them.
      Taking his image to LAPD so he can he identified as malicious Church” of Scientology harrasser.
      Trying to download Iphone images.
      More of the story coming.

      • The nerve of that bastard,showing up at Karen’s place. With $cn. No amount of hell is enough to put you through.

        • They are vicious. They will stop at nothing to get you to destroy yourself.

          This is what they are doing to Karen. They’ve taken her son, and now they are going after her.

          They must be stopped.


          • Observer

            I think Miscavige has bitten off significantly more than he can chew with Karen. She is tough, smart, knows their M.O. and is fueled by righteous fury. This is going to backfire in ways he can’t imagine.

      • John P.

        It’s a little surprising that the cult would pay to fly the hapless and inept Jim Lynch all the way from his home base in Florida to California to harass Karen when one would think they would have at least one “journalist” in the LA area, their home base, who could do the same thing. Could it be that they’re running a little short of goons to do the dirty work?

        Incidentally, the OCMB thread has a link to a land sale record that shows that a James Lynch bought a house in 2011 in Boca Raton for $295,000. Separately, other dox suggest that Lynch tying Lynch to a former residence in Scarsdale NY suggest that this real estate transaction is the right guy. A $295,000 home purchase implies annual income of perhaps $100,000. It could be that his wife makes most of the money needed for this, and he may have also profited from a sale of a previous home, so he is not making that $100k needed to qualify for a mortgage from his activities with the cult. On the other hand, if he is in fact making $100k from the cult, one would have to wonder what Miscavige thinks he’s getting for his money.

        • Also, folks in the older age range Lynch looks to be (65?) could have inherited, or his wife.

    • richelieu jr

      A Tubes fan as well, John P? We seem to have more in common every day!

    • valerim9

      Karen posted pics and videos about her tuning with Lynch in her thread at the Bake. The pic Tony put here ishonestly the most flattering one of him. Hilarious encounter. No license plates on his car!

    • Deckard__Cain

      Funny, I had Xanadu playing on my telly last night and wondering why the heck The Tubes appeared in this monstrosity of a movie. That last line of the chorus just answered my question.

    • Anononyourside

      What do you think is the possibility that Miscavige will turn to Jim Jones’s method of filling up events, that is, going to the most vulnerable of society and promising salvation to the elderly and the very poor?

      • Deckard__Cain

        The ‘very poor’ don’t work into the Scientology business model. Going into impoverished countries will only serve to get more free slaves, not engorged whales looking to shed their riches.

        Jim Jones started off as a real Methodist preacher who purposefully targeted minority and poor communities to build his church. Scientology will never allow services at severe discounts, pro bono, or otherwise at cost unless you join the Sea Org. These are two very different systems.

        That’s not to say that the very deluded that are still in the Sea Org won’t pull a ‘Jonestown’ on Miscavige’s command. But nothing will be promised to the elderly and poor unless they have lots of money or will become slaves.

        • Anononyourside

          What you write about the Sea Org is chilling, and I hope never comes to pass. Nonetheless, if someone puts up with torture for years at a time, what’s to say that he/she won’t agree that it’s time to”shed” their body on Miscavige’s order. If this happens to even one person, how will the FBI and DHS feel after that?

          As for the FBI and DHS, shame on you for dropping, or considering dropping, your investigation. Do you think children forced to perform hard labor at all hours of the day and night are protected by a religious exemption to the law? The Catholic Church was investigated, sued, and priests sent to prison for child abuse that happened decades ago, does the law apply a different standard to the Church of Scientology ?

          • Deckard__Cain

            To put some things in perspective (with the Catholic Church), that type of abuse went on for centuries before humanity caught up with them in the late 20th Century, and even then the Vatican made statements that it was the ‘sex-crazed culture of Americans (or the West) that caused the abuse’.

            Warning – what follows is a narrative that some won’t like. I tell it to illustrate that what is going on with Scientology is not exclusive with Scientology, and that the Catholics let shit like this happen for countless years before it caught up with them.

            I have a personal story to share with the Catholic sex abuse situation that I’ll share here. A family member was a Catholic Priest (“Priest”) and his sister (another family member) was a Catholic Nun (“Nun”). This was in the late 50s and throughout the 60s. The Priest was sent to an impoverished Country in Central America and saw terrible, awful poverty and the problems with families having too many children in which they could neither care for nor feed.

            The Priest quickly became disenchanted with the Catholic teachings against birth control when he saw a two year old lose an eye in front of him because her parents couldn’t afford to take her to the doctor for a simple eye infection. After much thought and seeing more of these horrors, he left the Catholic church but not before being offered luxurious comforts and spoils by a ranking Bishop to stay. According to the Priest, he was offered up boys, girls, women, or men as sexual partners to stick around.

            That sealed the deal. He ran far from the Catholic church shortly thereafter, but he was given the invitation to come back at any time.

            His sister, the Nun wasn’t so lucky. Her experiences were very similar to those in the Sea Org and the Nun actually read Nancy Many’s book, upon my urging, and she said that Nancy’s story is similar to her own. When she left the order, she was given a suitcase and a couple bucks then told to Get the Fuck Out and that she was never welcome in the church again. Don’t let the door hit you in the ass on your way out.

            Before I start getting a lot of “Oh NOES….that doesn’t happen in the Catholic Church” bullshit responses, these are family members of mine and this MOST definitely happened.

      • John P.

        Actually, I’d say that “going to the most vulnerable of society and promising salvation” sounds exactly like what they’re trying to do with Narconon. That’s why the fight against Narconon seems to be expanding, and seems to be more important in 2013 than ever before, especially with the mounting body count. While many Narconon “students” don’t go to events, I suspect Miscavige would prefer to fill up coffers than seats if he had to choose…

        • Anononyourside

          I agree, but how long before the cash cows start to question empty orgs and empty seats?

    • Ziontologist

      “the state of Clear is so far advanced from any previous spiritual state Man has achieved, that a Clear can feel at the top of the mountain.”

      “I am wondering if this is a relatively literal analogy, talking about the sense of unreality and disconnectedness that one feels at the top of mountains over 20,000 feet high due mainly to lack of oxygen.”

      Good one, JohnP!

      A funny thing happened to me when I tried to fall asleep, the first few nights after I’d attested to Clear. I would wake back up, with a sense of alarm. Once awake, I started thinking about being Clear, and how that made me “different,” even though I’d always been different. I felt as if Scientology had co-opted my soul.

      Luckily, a work opportunity came my way, and within a year I was living in a new city , making new friends.

      You might not know what it’s like to get audited (lol), but your description of “the sense of unreality and disconnectedness” definitely reminded me of when I attested to Clear!

      • John P.

        “I felt as if Scientology had co-opted my soul.”

        A very apt description and a nice image that pretty much sums up the whole thing.

      • valerim9

        You’re right, after I was “clear” according to Scn. I did feel disconnected. I was scared of heights, and I was scared all the time. You’re right. I do feel like I’m on the top of a mountain. They hit the nail right on the head with that one.

    • DeElizabethan

      A little side note about the Flag World Tour. If they do as they do in Clearwater. Many robots, days ahead, start going around handing out flyers and asking if you will attend and some write down your name. They promote big time with members on events, even the Friday graduation. They impinge in your face every where you turn and keep track too. Also at most events they have you sign papers and mark off planned events you plan to attend. It’s insane. I’ve been told the reason being, so they know how many to expect, but I think not and goes on a record so when you’re called later, they have lots of data on you. Been a true faithful sheep?

    • “a Clear can feel at the top of the mountain.” I am wondering if this is a relatively literal analogy, talking about the sense of unreality and disconnectedness that one feels at the top of mountains over 20,000 feet high due mainly to lack of oxygen.

      Once again I learn not to ingest soda before reading a JohnP post. I am reminded of Krakauer’s account “Into Thin Air” of Everest climbers unable to help each other due to their general state of stupidity and mental as well as physical numbness, even though they could actually see how much trouble each other were in: yes, very Scion-like.

  • mook

    Uh oh, JT and Kelly are gonna be in trouble with Misscavige for socializing with an SP (Kidman)

    • Ze Moo

      As Nicole Kidman hasn’t publicly dissed the CO$, she isn’t technically an SP. Of course, TC and Kelly are ‘big beings’ and aren’t subject to the usual discipline of the hole and sec checking. I bet the faithful minions who have been forced to disconnect from family and friends enjoy that double standard.

      • mook

        isn’t Kelly P an OT8, while JT is an OT6? No wonder he can’t come out of the closet, she definitely has an upper hand in this “marriage”

    • BosonStark

      That link goes to a hilarious article by Maureen Callahan of the New York Post, based on information in Wright’s book. They are not going to be able to shut the media up after this book is out.

      From the article, not that hilarious, but did you know that after her divorce, Nicole Kidman had her miscarried fetus DNA tested to verify legally that it was his child, because she was afraid that the cult would portray her as unfaithful? Seems like she would be afraid that Cruise would portray her that way. When you think about it, Cruise must have either really had the hots for Katie Holmes, or really wanted the SP Kidman out of the picture to divorce Kidman, the woman who was pregnant with his child.

      • moxonmoxoff

        i was also intrigued by that tidbit. i really hope nic spills the beans one of these days.

      • Deckard__Cain

        From what I recall in 2000, the PR buzz around the Kidman/Cruise divorce started off that Kidman was unfaithful during the shoot of Moulin Rouge! (with Ewan McGregor of all people). I read some gossip that her pregnancy was not Tom Cruise’s child early on, but that came to a quick halt once she revealed that she had DNA evidence stored to prove otherwise.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Just a few thoughts about the film.

    Why do I feel no sympathy for Rinder? I guess I am just low on the tone scale.

    Has Heber has been putting in the time he might have been spending in a jail in Spain?

    Do those interviewed think that if Ron Hubbard had still been running the cult, things would have been much different?

    In a country of 300 million you have got to expect a cruel cult or two. What you don’t expect is that the government would allow them their actions and while giving them tax exempt status.

  • 1subgenius

    Just yesterday I suggested the time had come for investigative stories about why the authorities haven’t done anything about the world’s most sinister scam.
    Talk about super powers. I got ’em.

    • burythenuts

      You are OT VIII!
      Please send me a check for $400,000.00

    • moxonmoxoff

      Fantastic! This has me thinking that there are MOAR things you should be talking about:

      1. Why hasn’t the IRS investigated the clearly “non-exempt” purposes of the CO$? The US could certainly use the tax revenues.

      2. Why aren’t more states investigating and moving more aggressively on Narconon facilities? That is to say, which politicians are in CO$ pocket?

      3. Where is Shelly?

  • 1subgenius

    BTW, in case the Feds can’t figure out how to get these scum, here it is, plain as day, would apply to countless critics, and exes, you’re welcome:





    § 241. Conspiracy
    against rights

    If two or more persons
    conspire to injure, oppress, threaten, or intimidate
    any inhabitant of any State, Territory, or
    District in the free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege secured to
    him by the Constitution or laws of the United States, or because of his
    having so exercised the same…they shall be fined not more than $10,000 or
    imprisoned not more than ten years, or both; and if death results, they shall
    be subject to imprisonment for any term of years or for life.

    • 1subgenius

      The feds are gutless wonders. They have a juicy bust handed to them on a silver platter. And……?

      They did nothing about our Kwame Kilpatrick until the media made it too embarassing for them to refrain from acting.

      One must understand the mentality of the run-of-the-mill cop. (Props to those who actually DO their job.)

      Here, in Detroit, we had a guy confess to murder, and they released him. (Google Bob Basharian….he was the guy who hired this confessed killer to kill his wife, and eventually plead guilty to hiring a hitman to kill the hitman….believe it or don’t) The hitman almost had to beg to be arrested.

      I must watch “Nurse Betty” (damn I still love Renee Zellweger, don’t yell at me) regularly to remind myself of this attitude (btw, I know excellent police officers personally).

      Scene: Nurse Betty’s friends have discovered that she is in imminent danger, go to the local police chief with clear evidence, and suggest that he must DO something.

      His response: “You don’t understand. We’re the police. We don’t HAVE to do a damn thing.”

      And they don’t, because no one polices the police.

      Quis custodiet ipsos custodes?
      Who guards the guardians?

      End of rant. For now.

      • Bashara was not in Detroit proper, but in the suburb of Grosse Pointe Park, a couple blocks from my parents’ home. The Park is less tony than the other Pointes, but still, they had not had a murder case since 1947 so they were not really prepared. They turned the hitman loose because he came in babbling BS that made no sense and did not agree with what they knew of the facts of the case; partly that is because he is rather loony and not very bright, but also, it turned out, because he was exaggerating trying to get himself arrested because Bashara was trying to have him iced.

  • Patty Moher

    “We love the very idea of solo auditing. Just think about it: You pay
    Scientology tens of thousands of dollars to take home some materials and
    then quiz yourself on the e-meter. It’s got to be worth it!”

    Tony, I’m gonna hafta send you to cramming. Solo auditor’s do not quiz themselves. They have the most important job in the Universe! After all, they are working on the Seventh Dynamic (spirits) and removing all those thetans, many of whom are extremely recalcitrant. These spirits/beings/thetans are stuck all over the Solo Auditor’s body and causing the Solo Auditor to act crazy. They are doing daily exorcisms to bazillions of spirits who are causing all kinds of problems for the Solo Auditor.

    You want to know why Scientologists act crazy. ^^^^ Because they are.

    Re: The Tampa boys article! Wow! And I have to say I was honestly moved by Mike Rinder’s account of The Hole and the torture of Kurt Weiland and Mike’s response to all of it. I’ve been a harsh critic of Mike’s but seeing what he went through and how’s he’s doing his absolute best to expose the evil that goes on under miscavage. Well it made my day!

    • Under those kinds of conditions in the Hole, I don’t know how anyone could be expected to intervene on behalf of another. Your own abuse would be increased, and theirs would not be lessened.

      • richelieu jr

        There’s still a big difference between that and piling on, Lord of the fucking Flies-style…

        Someone should shove the ‘conch’ up Miscavige’s tight little ass…

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          See my links outlining the effects of all the various abuses that is meted out on a regular basis and realize these people have been through this for so many decades they would not be considered mentally sound if they were seen by a psychiatrist on their exit. Some have been so damaged they will not return to full function levels no matter what doctors they see, and those that only see chiropractors and more self help unlicensed therapies won’t recover and might get worse.

          I admire those who have spoken up and what they are trying to do and listening to their own compassed hearts again. What I have a problem with is authorities relying too much on their word because they are Still trying to Protect their Master, Hubbard, just like Rinder explained he was doing. I will say that most who rose to the top and Stayed There are some pretty twisted socio’s themselves. But there are some who seem to have gotten caught up in the Apocalypse Now frenzy who were broken primal pieces, the temporary insanity defense if you will.

          Whenever someone conjures up concentration camp horrors, there are legitimate objections. It’s not as bad as concentration camps. It’s just one step below that because the “voluntary prisoners” in scientology are needed to get more work done and of course, not as many. That is the Only reason. So the best you can say about the level of human rights abuses in scientology is: It’s not as bad as the concentration camps.

          • AnyOldName1

            In one of the articles I read today (I’ll try to remember which one & site it) – the occupants of the hole were likened to POW’s. I thought that was one of the best descriptions. Especially after listening to JB’s accounts. The soldiers signed up, SO signed up, but neither deserved that treatment. Hey Co$ it’s called Human Rights!

            So many of the stories reminded me of ones I heard from those returning from Vietnam. The extreme psychological torture, turning prisoners against each other (tho in Nam, most of the men knew they had comrades – in the Hole I don’t think they could trust anyone) and the fear to stand up to the guards led to guilt.

            It wasn’t a Nazi concentration camp, there were no gas chambers, medical experiments, no goal to mass murder an ethic group, etc. By making that comparison, it is too extreme and in the end cheapens the horror of the Hole.

    • Deckard__Cain

      Patty, I have to agree with you there (regarding Rinder). He actually admitted that he hurt many others and is speaking out to repair the damage but he, like Rathbun, seems to stop half-way with victim reparations. He is still on record recently calling Gerry Armstrong a nutter and why are we only hearing about some of this stuff about the ‘hole’ now?

      He’s got a long way to go, but Rinder always struck me as someone with a brain. Let’s hope he gets to complete clarity soon.

  • Observer

    The Chan flyer:

    “We became great friends on the ship … I … talked to him several times … ”

    Hm. I don’t normally consider someone a “great friend” until I have known him or her for a significant period of time and have found him or her to be honest, trustworthy, and sharing in my warped sense of humor.  This reminds me of the sad lowly Scilons someone linked to awhile back (I don’t remember if it was here or at OCMB) who were rhapsodizing over what a great friend Tom Cruise is to them. I actually feel kind of bad for poor deluded Phil.

  • May West

    “… how to really truly honest to God make a lot of money so he could go up the bridge.”
    ^^^^ The Michael Chan’s sad motive is revealed in the advert’s testimonial.

  • Come on over to my house, Jim!

    I have some quotes for ya.

  • So long as Scientology has criminal immunity, there is no cause for celebration.

  • mook

    Lawrence Wright’s book spreads to Fox News, employer of Greta Van Susteren

    • sugarplumfairy

      I love the headline: “tom cruise thinks he’s on planet to fight aliens..” Seriously, who could see tht headline and not read the article? I’m loving this..

      Btw, the article says he signed a billion year contract.. I thought he couldn’t join sea org because of a drug history?

    • Sherbet

      Does anyone know of anything Greta has said about the joys of being a scn, similar to the other public clams’ braying about their successes within cos? Maybe Fox is strict about presenting an unbiased viewpoint, and, yes, I AM joking about that part.

  • BosonStark

    I hope the cult gets caught making sock accounts to review their books, buildings, chiros and dentists. As others have said, inviting members to get familiar with Google, Yelp, Amazon etc. is just leading them closer to beholding Xenu’s exploding volcano of truth on the web.

    When they start on Wright’s book on Amazon, having maybe even ordered the book but not read it, they are going to be close to a heap of attractive entheta from the people who have read it. The Amazon reviews are going to get interesting though because the Wright book is going to attract people who know very little about Scientology, and it will be fascinating to hear their reactions to the book.

    The Tampa Bay Times video interviews and recreations are very helpful for readers, and for non-readers. Seeing the person who spent decades of their life in the cult, tell their own story, about the often embarrassing things they did (like JB putting bars on the doors, behind which were members he thought of as friends or at least great Thetans), they obviously are telling a significant amount of truth.

    Plus, these ex-members sound so real, compared to cult spokesliars, or in the case of Rinder, when he was a cult spokesliar.

    “Vague” is definitely the operative word for the cult’s “support of human rights.” So many people are against human rights these days (eye roll), so we need a space cult to rally people to support human rights. Up, up with people, and their human rights.

    What about the rights of dead space alien souls? Don’t they have a right to cling, in clusters if they want?

    • John P.

      There was a glowing five-star review posted for “Dianutty” a day ago from Kendra Copelan. It sounded like the usual glowing driven written by the cult marketing department. Turns out that Kendra Copelan is an officer of the Mojave Academy, one of the cult’s boarding school/youth prisons tucked away in the back of beyond on a lonely dirt road miles away from the nearest town of Datil, NM. I was going to bring this fact out in a snarky comment to the review, but I can’t figure out if any identifying information will be exposed in a comment. Good to see that a fair number of critics are out there as well.

      • Added the comment for you. In the future if you want to make a comment under a pen name click on your name that appears in the upper right of the comment box and you can edit your name to a pen name. You can also link your account to an alternate email (I don’t want personal information to get to the cult either – my parents didn’t name me after a product that kills ticks, spiders, ants and cockroaches but I thought it appropriate).

  • California

    What a wonderful, wonderful EFFECTIVE 2013 it has been so far.

    • Deckard__Cain

      I wish I were as positive as you because I will only consider it ‘effective’ when I see arrests made.

      • John P.

        I think we’re in a position where the collapse of the cult as a viable economic entity will precede arrests. If I had to guess, I’m now more optimistic, based partly on comments from TheHoleDoesNotExist about membership declines that are more rapid than I would have modeled (if I were approaching it as a capitalist market analysis game), that the cult stops being economically viable within the next three years or so. If we can get high quality data points about actual numbers of public going into certain locations (i.e., counting noses at various orgs), we might be able to look back at the end of 2013 and see the decline accelerate.

        Unfortunately, the government always seems to be a bit behind on the enforcement front. Some of the hedge fund managers who have been jailed in the last couple years for insider trading were widely believed/known to have been “dirty” for many, many years before their downfall. But was only after years of trying that the feds were able to mount enough evidence to bring airtight cases. So it may be that Miscavige ends up in handcuffs, but it could end up being over looting the carcass of the cult, rather than the devastation wrought during his reign. An orange jumpsuit and a cellmate named Bubba are a just reward whether he earns it for the really bad stuff, or from something tacked on at the end of the collapse.

      • California

        Hang in there, Deckard. There are lots of ways to measure effectiveness.

        Closing ALL Narconons is one, starting in the US. Halting Narconon Drug Education the second that overworked underpaid schools allow it in is another. Stopping the influx of “fresh meat” is another. Getting more and better support for the ex’es coming out is another.

        Arrests would be nice but I agree with John P. down below. Many people, including Charles Ferguson who won an Oscar for his documentary “Inside Job” begged from his-moment-in-the-sun podium accepting his Oscar for real judicial and legal consequences to the financial meltdown perps and it still has not happened.

        But better practices are in place. And more will be put in under the second Obama administration.

        And I think that the same will be true for SCN.

      • DeElizabethan

        Understandable, but hell of a lift to watch the avalanche that this year has started out to be continued from previous. We are all waiting for the culmination, and that year is getting closer.

  • Bobb999

    The NY Post has a 4-page article today summarizing the Tom Cruise story as told in Lawrence Wright’s book, with some quotes from the book Tony says is to be released Thursday:
    The article’s entitled “Now No. 3 in Scientology, Tom Cruise thinks he’s on planet to vanquish aliens: book.”
    It explains Cruise views himself as No. 3, with LRH still counted as No.1, & Miscavige No. 2.
    Here’s one QUOTE: “Miscavige encouraged Cruise’s grandiosity. Marty Rathbun said that
    Miscavige told Cruise that they were among a select group of chosen
    ones, ‘big beings’ who were destined to meet up with LRH on a planet
    called ‘Target Two.’ It’s so pleasing to know LRH may be conducting important research today on planet Target Two, & that No.1 lives!

    • SP ‘Onage


      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        BAMuary 2013

        • SP ‘Onage

          Haaaahaaa! 🙂

    • Artoo45

      Number one was full of number two.

      • Bobb999

        Too true. Plus all 3 are “Big Beings” probably ’cause they’re all so full of No. 1’s No. 2. Worse, going on the “you are what you consume” theory, all 3 have presumably turned into No. 2! Pee yooh.

    • coonellie

      We could do a remake of the Prisoner!

    • I am Number Two — Who is Number One? — You are Number Six — I AM NOT A NUMBER, I AM A FREE MAN!

  • SP ‘Onage

    “In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
    -George Orwell

    Thank you Tampa Bay Times and Tony O for keeping the powerful accountable…outstanding investigative journalism!

    • Nigel

      It’s like Tony is on the street, digging up all the dirt on a daily basis, and once a year, Tobin and Childs bring down Thor’s hammer, kind of consolidating what Tony had published months, if not years earlier.

  • AnyOldName1

    Hey Tony, I think you need to put up a calendar of upcoming events. I’m having trouble keeping up with what shit is supposed to hit the fan and when 🙂

  • Artoo45

    Everything that comes out of the cult seems like it was written by the same, tiny, python-eyed person. There is a blandness to all things Scientology, even when they’re being “enthusiastic.” It’s just another clue as to who is in utter, fanatical, day-to-day control of the comm lines. I imagine the Tiny Terror™ works is sitting unshaven in his Saville Row boxers, smoking Newports and chugging down handfuls of nicacin with calmag whilst glued to the interwebs all damn day long. He types feverishly, muttering to himself like Darren McGavin battling the furnace in A Christmas Story, personally composing every word spewed forth by the PouwBot 9000X™. The shore story is, of course, that COB, being the ecclesiastical leader of the World’s Fastest Growing Religion™ is too busy jetting about and thinking pan-galactically to be bothered with such mundane gnats as scribes and critics. The reality, well, one can only imagine . . .

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    “Human rights are freedoms established by custom or international agreement that impose standards of conduct on all nations. Human rights are distinct from civil liberties, which are freedoms established by the law of a particular state and applied by that state in its own jurisdiction.

    Specific human rights include the right to personal liberty and Due Process of Law; to freedom of thought, expression, religion, organization, and movement; to freedom from discrimination on the basis of race, religion, age, language, and sex; to basic education; to employment; and to property. Human rights laws have been defined by international conventions, by treaties, and by organizations, particularly the United Nations. These laws prohibit practices such as torture, Slavery, summary execution without trial, and Arbitrary detention or exile.”

    I hope the FBI and Homeland are interviewing more than just the True Believers. They are still in denial about the abuses and torture, sounding much like the wife who has left, but still talking about how she’s pretty sure she didn’t deserve the beatings, and never once mentioning the emotional and verbal abuse, the dozens of methods of imprisoning her, financially, socially, physically, mentally, children held ransom, etc. She is Still in victim mode.

    While the Hemet Hole has its own history of forms of abuse, I want the FBI to hear all the thousands of other reports from former members about what is Normal Operating Basis in scientology (called SOP, or Standard Operating Procedure in sci). Statistics on how much cash was raked in is added each Thursday. Every week, per Hubbard’s greed and psychotic “tech”, employees are expected to bring in More money each week. If not, they are punished. This was set up by Hubbard from day one and goes on All The Time. Sorry, Debby Cook, this IS normal scientology “practices”, and the human rights abuses that you and others committed and ordered your juniors to commit for years on end. They are Not labelled “practices” in the real world. They are called Crimes and Abuse.

    Degree of punishment is based upon how many internal organization pressures are going coupled with how much external pressure is happening, like lawsuits, media exposure. If the income has been steadily declining, the punishment continues every week no matter what. It is a formula that every CO (Command Officer, more like CEO) uses and if that CO does Not inflict them, Their senior from a higher up org will remove them, send them to the scientology prison, RPF.

    The basic Normal punishment package is sleep deprivation, consisting of 4 hours to as little as 2 hours, interspersed with one or two days with No sleep. Malnutrition in the form of single sources such as rice and beans, and also via overdose of vitamin supplements. Mental, verbal and emotional abuse in every known form dealt out every hour on the hour at the maximum to three times a day, usually at staff musters, at a minimum.

    Besides the long, long list of physiological damages of the above, the mental consequences involve adjustment disorders, apathy, lethargy, confusion, depression, suicidal thoughts. Below are links to both physical and mental damages and combined create a human being Unable to make decisions in his or her own best interest and in a malleable state that may be a danger to themselves. Just take a look at the effects of just chronic sleep deprivation. It is a very shocking long list.

  • Cerulean Blu

    I’m glald Rumaldo is has achieved the ecclesiastic status of “Bi-lingual.”

    However, something about his “Happiness Rundown” doesn’t sound very happy.

    (Nice car keys, by the way.)

    • BuryTheNuts2

      They match his tie.

      • AnyOldName1

        You and that damn tie! I think you should get one and gift it to Mr. Lynch. Would go nicely with the cheap suit.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          It is Victoria who is obsessed with staff ties.
          My job is simply to instigate, enturbulate and advance her neuroses of said object.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        wot, the dead eyes match his tie? Hey, what’s that device hanging from his belt? Since he’s a Div 6 kinda guy (deals with the public) in L.A., I’m thinking it’s gotta be one of three things:
        a) GPS tracker on his customers’ cars and phones
        b) GPS tracker of his customers’ brokers and banking officers
        c) GPS tracker of the LAPD officers and their police cars.

        • Cerulean Blu

          I thought that thing on his belt was a status symbol …. proof that after 20 years on staff, he can afford to lease a used Hyundai.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Yep, he looks just like him…..creepyiness

    • Observer

      Rumaldo terrifies me with his rictus and his dead eyes …

    • BosonStark

      He’s a bivalve too.

      • Cerulean Blu

        LOL!!!!!! Yes he is, sir, yes he is:)

  • moxonmoxoff

    Heh. Radar has picked up the Wright story.

    Funny, though. Neither People nor US Mag are carrying it.

  • 0tessa

    After the reading of the article on Cruise in the NYPost, I realized that Nicole Kidman lost her three children because of Cruise and/or Scientology: her unborn baby after the divorce and her two adopted children because of Scientology indoctrination. Tom Cruise let or made it all happen.
    Imagine, a mother losing her three children that way! I feel so sorry for her. If she comes forward with her book, that’ll be the end of filmstar Cruise. He has become unhuman. Instead of fighting aliens, he has become one himself.

  • villagedianne

    I think the COS is pretty much sunk as far as attracting new members in the US and other western countries. Now we have to bring the anti-Scientology infowar global as the cult trolls for new members in third world countries.
    The COS itself is turning into a paradigm of a third-world country, with a few rich people at the top and an underpaid and undernourshed underclass at the bottom, consisting of Sea Org and staff. And Miscavige at the very top, living like a king.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Yeah, looks like they’re working hard on South Korea and other Asian countries using sci-shill Tom Cruise who is now a Honorary Citizen of Busan, South Korea. These type of PR stunts are definitely organized by scientology, no doubt…It srsly makes me want to vomit!

      • Espiando

        I wouldn’t go for “sinister” when “money” is the Occam’s Razor explanation. Busan hosts one of Asia’s largest film festivals. You wouldn’t necessarily blink if Cruise was made an honorary citizen of Cannes or Venice.

  • 1subgenius

    Here’s the Valley Org where the Michael Chan Seminar is going to be. As of sometime in 2012 they still hadn’t crossed out the original cross, or even put their name on the building.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Legitimate cross, no sci sign = A desperate final attempt at getting unsuspecting raw meat through their doors.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Um, Weak.
      So this is where I can go hear a guy who has a gutter cleaning business tell me how to seal the deal on my eternity….well…if they can get those pesky date changes nailed down?
      I would sign up, but I am already scheduled to go to an Amway party that……whatever

      • N. Graham

        Probably backed out when they realized no one signed up and no one was coming.

  • Schockenawd

    Something Mike Rinder said in the Tampa Bay Times article caught my eye. He said, “To me, it’s like trying to have an argument about whether segregation in 1960 was legal. Yeah, it was legal…. Was it moral? No.”

    Segregation was ultimately determined to be illegal, since it is inconsistent with the constitutional guarantee of equal protection under the law. The law can’t treat two citizens differently based on race (or any other inherently suspect classification). Likewise, human trafficking is illegal. But the problem for us is the extra constitutional layer of freedom of religion that lays over the top of the whole analysis. The constitution says people are generally free to practice their religion however they want to. If, as part of their religion, they want to sign up for 100 hour weeks on secretive compounds, god bless ’em. Yes, there are limits. You can’t smoke dope in the name of religion, and you can’t rape little girls because God told you to.

    In deciding not to pursue the issue of whether Scientology crosses the line, the government apparently decided it was too close a call. One wonders whether, if they’d pushed a little harder, if they would have found children in the bowels of the Freewinds scrubbing pipe fittings with toothbrushes, or some such travesty. Undoubtedly, Scientology’s demonstrated willingness to sue detractors — including the US government — into the ground was a factor in the Justice Department’s decision to blink.

    • Cerulean Blu

      Actually, there are some legal exceptions for possession of hallucinogens for the practice of religious rituals.

      • Bobb999

        True. Peyote’s long been legal in the U.S. & Canada for followers of The Native American Church which originally spread from Southern U.S. tribes (where peyote grows) all the way up to Canada’s prairies in the late 1800s. Its interesting how, according to Joseph Campbell, the peyote religion spread like wildfire among Indians of the Plains after the buffalo had been wiped out. The buffalo had been the central mythic (& sustenance) animal to these tribes & had provided food, clothing, & shelter. Once the outer symbol central to their religions was gone, there was a move toward inner experience via peyote, as the buffalo were viewed as being still alive & present in the “spirit world”. As for being free to legally smoke pot in the name of religion, hey in 2013 anyone in WA or CO States can smoke pot legally for religious or any other reasons!

        • DeElizabethan

          I remember years back in Miami, a Haitian cult won the liberty to smoke pot for religious reasons.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Good to know. Scientologists practice scientology to fire up internal cranial lines to Induce hallucinations. When you get to the top level, OT 8, you can hallucinate at will:

  • Sidney18511

    This is great! DM must be wearing his big boy diapers to keep the poop from running down his little leg.

  • Sherbet

    Does cos have a theory as to why every single bitter defrocked apostate is lying? What are the BDAs supposed to be gaining by coordinating their stories, fabricating parallel lies about The Hole and spreading other malicious untruths about the spiritual paragon that is the cos? It’s outrageous that people actually believe cos’s lack of logic — “Bitter defrocked apostates lie because they’re liars.” — but what else is new, anyway…

    • 1subgenius

      “Does cos have a theory as to why every single bitter defrocked apostate is lying?”

      A follow-up question which the media doesn’t bother to ask.
      CoS does have an answer though: “That’s what apostates do.”
      The follow-up also not asked is: “Why the hell are there so many of them?” and: “Why are their stories so consistent and why is there so much corroborating evidence?” Another good one would be: “Are you lying, and if you are would you admit it?” “Can we visit Gold Base?” “Given the seriousness of the allegations, may we have an audience with Mr. Miscavige?” “Why not?”
      Of course if the media had been doing its job they would have blown all CoS’s responses out of the water long ago.
      Stupid media.

      • Sherbet

        “Of course if the media had been doing its job they would have blown all CoS’s responses out of the water long ago.”

        Amen to that. It seems that we bloggers with varying levels of education and human experience can easily pinpoint the cos’s inconsistencies, yet the media traditionally take cos’s word at face value with none of the follow-up questions which you suggest. It’s time for that tradition to end. Are you listening, Rock Center? We hope, as cos’s retaliation becomes less of a threat and more of a joke, the media will be less tactful.

        • 1subgenius

          This time around the most we’ll see is an upturned eyebrow or slight scowl from Harry Smith or Brian Williams. Maybe a “tsk”.
          Paging Edward R. Murrow….oh, wait.

      • moxonmoxoff

        I’m sorry, you were expecting actual journalism from the media? Silly rabbit.

      • DeElizabethan

        Exactly, good questions.

    • Observer

      I’d like to see a reporter point out their MU on “apostate”– specifically, that it is not inherently pejorative. They seem to think it’s a synonym of “traitor” or “baby-raper”.

      • Sherbet

        Apparently, nobody gets ignored, even if cos looks really stupid going after every target. What is NOT a motto of cos: “Choose your battles.”

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Sweet observer…

    • grundoon

      The BDAs are PDH controlled by SMERSH under the orders of the Twelve Bankers.

  • California
  • Schockenawd

    I can’t wait til Karin Pouw gets out, as she inevitably will. She’ll have some stories to tell! C’mon, Karin… You know you wanna. You’ll have more support on the outside than you could ever have inside. There are No KRs out here.

    • Cerulean Blu

      It’s much cooler to be out. Stop being such a square, Karin! Taking dictations must get old, especially when you get slapped if you ask for a clarification.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Hey, maybe Karin is OT VIIIisgrrrr8 instead of Dan Sherman?

      • John P.

        Karin is a little too mild-mannered. My money is on Jeff Pomerantz, the former actor and full-time Scientology “reg” as the true identity of OTVIIIisGrrr8. Jeff is slick and sleazy, has the big booming bloviating voice that we all hear when we read OTVIII’s posts, and he is not quite as obsessed with what he thinks is clever verbal sophistication the way Sherman is. Pomerantz might really enjoy immersing himself in a new role, given that he hasn’t had an IMDB credit in 20 years, so he could be adopting the OTVIIIisGrrr8 persona as a way of reliving his acting years.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Well, if that is true…good for him.
          Whoever it is…knows too much.
          I like it!
          BTW, your opening comments this morning made me laugh so hard I couldn’t breathe.
          You almost literally killed me…(OK, at least pass out).

        • Nigel

          I’m not sure if Jeff is sophisticated enough to parody Steely Dan lyrics, as OTVIIIisGrrr8 is wont to do.

        • Deckard__Cain

          I always heard the Sherman-speaking-wee-man voice in my head when I read his posts. But you may be right.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Lol Deck….my intuition keeps pointing me back to DS too.
            ~something just feels right…

      • sugarplumfairy

        I don’t know who he is, but I love him..

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Ditto freakin O

  • Cerulean Blu

    I love how the thing that the press has reiterated lately is the alien agenda: “Tom Cruise thinks he’s on planet to fight aliens.”

  • Nigel

    From the first paragraph of the NYT Book review of Wright:

    “‘Why do public personalities’ — he’s talking to you, Tom Cruise —
    ‘associate themselves with a faith that is likely to create a kind of
    public relations martyrdom?'”

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Hey, you are the Steely Dan parrot….I remember you.

      • Nigel

        I took a break from commenting after the Crimson Tide victory.

  • scnethics

    Jim Lynch looks like a total piece of shit.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      If it quacks……

  • Nigel
    • BuryTheNuts2

      OMG. Brouseau looks like John Travolta trying to play Gary Oldman in True Romance!

      • Nigel

        He really does look like JT:)

      • DeElizabethan

        Oh, got to get over there. Another dinner with the internet…

    • Midwest Mom

      The first comment for the Tobin/Childs story: “I couldn’t care less about Scientology…”

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Lol, 411, just confronted and shattered that Shiz

        • DeElizabethan

          I just finished up over there phew, put in many and was great reading. Now ya tell me 411. Was great, all.

    • DeElizabethan

      Seeing page one is more impressing than the internet headline on PART ONE.

      It’s BEAUTIFUL!. Front headline

      (small) “Inside Scientology * First of two parts ”

      (extremely large and bold) “SUPPRESSED”

      (I/3 page on front top and 4 full pages inside with pictures.)

      Tomorrow will see how #2 looks.

    • Nigel

      LOL, I got a down arrow for this….. keep it up, Davey!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Damn those pesky down arrows…
        They just make you want to crawl into a fetal position…right..?
        You get today’s badge of Honor!

    • aboutandout

      Sorry to disappoint and I apologize…just getting use to my touch screen laptop and hit it in error and so sorry.

      • Nigel

        Awww, shucks….. it was more fun when I imagined it was DM, instead of a touch-screen accident:)

  • Nigel

    And now, the LAist:

    “Miscavige realized what a golden opportunity he had as Cruise’s star
    rose with roles in “Risky Business” and “Top Gun.” Miscavige wanted to
    make Scientology mainstream and Cruise—over all the other celebrities in
    the church—seemed life the perfect spokesman to do it.”

  • SP ‘Onage

    I howled at M&M’s FBI code name, “Cheese -N- Crackers.”

    • Deckard__Cain

      It was perfect. And I’m so glad that Rathbun got the ‘crackers’ moniker. That’ll be my name for him from now on.

      • BuryTheNuts2


      • dagobarbz

        The Grahams and the Ritz family are not pleased by their new relative.

  • Deckard__Cain

    This is turning out to be the Winter of DM’s Discontent. My Google Alerts on Scientology stories went berserk this weekend. I wonder how many PR flunky-Ronbots are left to even try and counter the downstat week this has been.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Oh my goodness, I think I just convinced a very cerebral friend to join us to have a look at the hell of Scientology. Sweet, nothing like a new recruit to this incessant madness!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      She, ….once she absorbs the madness….will be Epic in her observations….


    • Deckard__Cain

      Sweet! The more the merrier.

  • SP ‘Onage

    DisQus Mobil is really glitchy! It doesn’t load all the posts, it’s slow as hell and t won’t let you reply.

  • I’ll say this for Rumaldo — he has found the ugliest tie in this sector of the galaxy.

  • dagobarbz

    Rumaldo is the answer to the question, “What do you get when you cross Nick Cage with…???”