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Why it was Scientology leader David Miscavige who declared Lisa McPherson ‘Clear’

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[Miscavige, in 1998; photo by Robin Donina Serne]

 
Marc Headley remembers where he was and what he was doing because David Miscavige, the leader of Scientology, was spitting obscenities about, of all things, the bad teeth belonging to Marc’s stepfather.

It was late summer 1995 in the 1,500-seat grand auditorium at the Fort Harrison Hotel in Clearwater, Florida, Scientology’s most holy site in the world. The place was packed with the Scientologists at the “Flag Land Base” who worked as technical experts — people whose jobs involved the arcane rules of counseling invented by Scientology’s founder, L. Ron Hubbard.

For several months, Miscavige, who normally worked from Scientology’s international management base in Hemet, California, had been working instead at “Flag,” Scientology’s spiritual headquarters in Clearwater. In 1975, Scientology surreptitiously invaded the Florida Gulf Coast town, taking over property under the fake name “United Churches of Florida.” Twenty years later, the church owned numerous buildings in the city’s downtown, and Scientologists arrived from around the world to pay for expensive courses and counseling that is only available at the complex.

Headley, who was also usually at Int Base in California, was temporarily in Flag after working on a project in Denmark. Headley wasn’t a Scientology “technology” person. He was a specialist in actual technology, like computers and audiovisual equipment. And so while he was at Flag, he was corralled to make sure that Miscavige’s briefings in the auditorium were properly amplified and recorded.

“Sometimes he’d show a new video, and it was my job to make sure it played correctly. We’d run the mics, and record everything. After the show someone from his office would pick up the recordings,” Headley tells us. “One of those briefings is when he thought up the new e-meter. Another time there he figured out Golden Age of Tech, at one of those briefings.”

It was a very productive time for Miscavige, Headley says. Just two years before, in 1993, Miscavige had succeeded in the greatest goal he had set for himself, gaining tax-exempt status for Scientology, and now he had turned his attention to the Flag Land Base and its earning potential. Through much of 1995, Miscavige worked out of an office up the street in the West Coast Building (or WB) at 118 North Fort Harrison Avenue. At the briefings in the Fort Harrison Hotel, Miscavige harangued his followers that Flag, which provided the most money in Scientology’s worldwide scheme, could be bringing in even more money.

“Flag makes more money per week than all the other orgs in the world combined. And a huge portion of that is profit. So, if Flag has an operating budget of $500,000 a week and brings in $1 million, then they clear $500,000. The rest of the orgs barely cover their costs, and often have to be subsidized by Int Base, which itself is subsidized by Flag,” Headley says. “So Dave went to Flag, where they had been making about a million a week, and he said fuck that, these motherfuckers could be making two million a week, or maybe even three. And he camped there until they did it.”

With characteristic coarse language, Miscavige used the briefings to explain ways that efficiencies could be found to get Scientologists paying more money and more quickly, Headley says. In one briefing, for example, Miscavige railed at the Flag auditors that they were asking wealthy Scientologists to have to travel several blocks from where they were staying at the Fort Harrison Hotel to where they were getting their upper-level counseling at another hotel, the Sandcastle. That transport back and forth was a waste of time when those wealthy customers could be on the clock, paying up to $1,000 an hour for auditing. Miscavige ordered that several floors of the Fort Harrison be changed from hotel rooms to auditing rooms so those rich marks wouldn’t even have to leave the building, and could get on the billing cycle more quickly.

“You take out the travel time so you get an hour more in auditing from 100 people all paying $1,000 an hour for it, that’s $100,000 more per day. See? He was doing things like that for auditing and for training. [“Training,” in Scientology, specifically refers to learning how to become an auditor.] If someone takes ten days to get through a training checksheet, fuck that, get rid of these things, and someone can get through it in five days, he’d say.” (In other words, when something was charged by the hour, the goal was to extend it as long as possible, but if something had a flat fee, the goal was the opposite, to get people through it quickly.)

And Miscavige wasn’t only looking at ways to increase revenue from an overall perspective. He was getting involved in specific cases, looking for ways to get them speeded up and more profitable, Headley says. And he remembers it most vividly because, during one briefing, Miscavige started talking about the man who was, at that time, Headley’s own stepfather.

“My stepdad was supposed to go off and get some dental work. So he was going to skip some processing time. But Miscavige used that as an example of how screwed up things were at Flag. ‘Fuck his teeth. That motherfucker can go in session,’ he said.”

Hearing about his stepdad remains so vivid in his memory, Headley says, it’s also the reason he remembers another case Miscavige discussed during that same briefing. “He talked about Lisa McPherson. How he personally oversaw her getting through Clear so she could get on to the next thing,” Headley says.

On September 7, 1995, Lisa McPherson, who had been a Scientologist since 1982, was declared ‘Clear’ at the Flag Land Base. As Janet Reitman explains in her excellent 2011 book that examines McPherson’s experience in detail, Inside Scientology, it was unusual that Lisa was being hurried through Clear, given her recent history.

In June, Lisa had become so distraught, in part because of a failed romance, she had been put through a Scientology process reserved for people who have had a mental breakdown or psychotic event, called the “Introspection Rundown”…

At the hotel, Lisa was assigned a roommate named [Susanne] Schnurrenberger, a Sea Org member who worked in the base’s medical office. Schnurrenberger, who had a nursing background, was charged with watching over Lisa to make sure she ate, slept, and was “sessionable” — able to receive auditing. Schnurrenberger was also supposed to prevent Lisa from hurting herself, as she had repeatedly threatened suicide. During the first few weeks, Lisa’s moods roller-coasted from upbeat and “gleaming bright,” as one staff member wrote in a memo, to dark and depressive. She felt as if she had an “enemy” inside of her. “Susanne,” she told Schnurrenberger one night, “I think I’m going crazy.”

Despite that recent past, in September Lisa was certified Clear. And Reitman writes that for a brief moment, Lisa was beaming, happy to have finally reached the milestone, a major step for any Scientologist. But soon enough, Lisa was again a very troubled woman. With so many warning signs, why had she been pushed to get through Clear and be certified as an exemplar of Scientology success?

Headley says Lisa just happened to be there when Miscavige was involving himself in Flag and pushing to get it working more efficiently.

“Nothing could happen there without him knowing about it and approving it,” Headley tells us. “My stepdad, he was a total nobody. And so was Lisa McPherson. Why was Miscavige involved in their cases? That’s how micromanaging he was. He was trying to make examples of these people. Before this, he had been involved in the IRS and at the Golden Era Studios at Int Base. But in this particular time, 1995, he was suddenly involved in the ‘technology’ side of things. It was all about how he could make Flag generate more money. And Lisa McPherson was just a small example of that. He was just trying to shove her through, even though she was losing her mind.”

As Reitman points out, two other Flag officials, Tom DeVocht and Don Jason, both personally witnessed Miscavige “case supervising” Lisa’s counseling, and that it was Miscavige who declared her Clear.

“So Miscavige declares her Clear. And obviously, however he decided to do it was wrong,” Headley tells us, referring to McPherson’s subsequent mental breakdown. “If you’re auditing in Scientology and something goes wrong, it’s always the auditor and the case supervisor who screwed up. It’s never the subject. Miscavige was Lisa’s case supervisor, but no one could say Miscavige screwed up — that’s impossible.”

No one would dare question the case supervising skills of Scientology’s ultimate leader. But everyone, Headley adds, would know that it was Miscavige who had pushed Lisa through Clear. And so when she then went into mental distress, it was like a big advertisement that Miscavige was technically deficient.

And the leader of Scientology could never countenance that.

Maybe it’s good to keep that in mind as we watch what was done to Lisa McPherson as her life began to crumble over the next few weeks, 20 years ago.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 13, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Robert Hammond

    Someone may have already posted this blog from Jon Atack’s assistant, Spike Robinson, but I’ll post it again just in case anyone is interested. Good mention and link to The Underground Bunker:

    The Scandal of Ex-Scientology
    https://phoenyxrose.wordpress.com/2015/11/12/the-scandal-of-ex-scientology/

    • Spike Robinson

      Thanks for posting this Robert – I wasn’t sure whether I should, as reactions have been mixed and my skin be thin. 🙂

      • Robert Hammond

        Thanks for writing it Spike. You made some insightful points that I thought others here might also find relevant. Thanks again for your help in the Getting Clear conference in Toronto. I really appreciated those videos.

        As someone who was “never in” Scientology, but was involved in other cults, I can relate to your desire to shine the light and help others avoid the pitfalls.

        I realize that I will never know exactly what it is like to be a Scientologist or an ex-Scientologist in spite of all the books and documentaries I’ve read and all the people I have known who have been involved for many years.

        I also know that it is easy to get one’s feeling hurt, caught up in the emotional drama of varying controversies and personalities. Sometimes I have to step back into the silent stillness.

        Thanks again to everyone here for sharing your stories and shining the light into dark places.

        • Spike Robinson

          Oh, thank you, Robert! It means a lot. 🙂

    • Jenyfurrrrr

      This was great RH – thanks for sharing! One of my very first Bunker friends! Always enjoy reading what you post and now I have a new blog to check – thanks again!

      • Robert Hammond

        Glad you enjoyed it. I haven’t been posting as much here lately. Hard to keep up with so many revelations and breaking news items every day. But I still like to read The Bunker and Mike Rinder’s blog every morning along with a few other daily news and information sources. Nice to see you again.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    I’m probably a day late with this –

    Documentary filmmaker Alex Gibney says the Church of Scientology is violating human rights: “…it’s not about the creed it’s about the deed.”

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/confidential/clear-director-calls-tom-cruise-article-1.2432811

    • Miss Tia

      ALWAYS worth the repeats! 🙂

    • Joe

      The problem is deep down he believes the hype. He believes that the lives of people like him and DM intrinsically hold more value than others, specifically people lower on the bridge or non-Scientologists. I think he’s afraid that if he has to speak out he’ll let it slip that he doesn’t see the problem with treating people like shit so long as they’re not at his “level”

  • Spike Robinson

    Biiilllllions and bliiiillllions of peeeeeeeeepole! Yikes! It’s like someone mated Carl Sagan to Jenna Elfman…

    • salin

      I just finished reading your blog post that Robert Hammond posted down thread. Really interesting read.

      • Spike Robinson

        It was a hard one to do because I knew it would ruffle some feathers, but it was after a week of having my boss (who really is a sweetie, and a good man with a good mission) “dead agented” at me with all sorts of bizarre innuendo and never a true word said. That said, though, it’s meant with the utmost love and respect: ALL exes are heroes to me.

        • Jenyfurrrrr

          I really enjoyed it and posted a reply to you. Sometimes that’s just needed – it’s always healthy to have another perspective and help people get out of their own heads.

          • Spike Robinson

            Thank you so much! 🙂

            • daisy

              Please do another song to Queen with Goth garb. I will watch Tory*s latest video. I will make my decision as to which girl I am crushing harder on. I am fickle so it may not be a firm decision.

  • StudentOfLife

    http://www.scientology-cult.com/secret-history-of-david-miscavige.html is a fascinating explanation from someone called “The Gang of Five” of how the Petulant Punching Psychopath aka David Miscavige came to consolidate his power by earning the trust of the Broekers, the couple that most believe that Hubbard intended to take over for him before Miscavige pulled a “coup.” The “She” referred to here is Gale Grady, wife of Paul Grady. These are excerpts that paint an interesting picture of Captain MissSavage. Have the Gang of Five since revealed themselves?

    It was late 1980 when Dave (Miscavige) had a major asthma attack. He was barely able to breath so Paul Grady took him to the hospital emergency room. Dave survived and when he came back he told Gale and Paul that he had a huge realization when he was in the hospital. He said, “Power is assumed.” Gale and Paul thought nothing of this.

    1981: She (Gale Grady) got John Brouseau and had him drive her to the Riverside phone booth and sent the call out to Pat (Broeker) to have him call her at the Riverside phone booth so she could set up a meeting with him. John drove her there and she waited for Pat to return her call. Meanwhile DM was looking for Gale and found out she was on her way to contact Pat. He drove with Janadiar, Yager, Ingber, Marlowe in the famous black van (it had been LRH’s van that he travelled in between the apartments in Hemet and the base which the messengers took over to do the runs to meet with Pat). DM sped into the gas station. Gale saw him get out of the driver’s seat and go to the back of the van.

    Miscavige got out a tire jack and went over the pay phone where Pat was waiting to call and smashed the public pay phone so it wouldn’t work. Needless to say this scared the crap out of Gale. Then he grabbed Gale and forced her into the van.

    The “group” of people proceeded to tell her (mostly DM while the rest watched) how bad she was. Literally over and over again. The support group for DM later told Gale they didn’t really know how bad she was, they just knew what DM had said. Gale was told she was no longer CO. Truthfully, Gale breathed a sigh of relief after recovering from being physically ill from being screamed at for about an hour about what she had done.

    Gale was busted in Dec ‘81. DM announced that Gale was removed for false reporting to LRH about the international stats and had tried to make the reports look better than what was really going on. The Mission Network was crashed stemming from DM doing Mission Holder Conferences, gang sec checking the Mission Holders and forming up the Finance Police who went out and destroyed this feeder line to orgs. It was totally contrary to all LRH policy and how LRH dealt with Mission Holders in the past. However, these orders which destroyed the Mission Network did come from LRH based off false reports that were being sent up by DM. DM, in order to remove Gale and her executives, which included Marc Yager as her D/CO, reported to LRH through Pat that they were covering up crashed stats and had been false reporting to him, making LRH feel he could not longer trust his Senior Messengers that had served him for years. DM was also reporting about how there were external influences affecting management and the orgs. DM had also reported to Pat that Gale had gone over the edge and was unstable mentally. With Gale removed, DM needed to get another CO CMO Int posted, though Marc Yager was a better exec and more respected, DM picked John Nelson who had been a Mission Ops under him for several years and later replaced DM as Action Chief CMO Int. DM’s reason to not post Yager as CO CMO Int was because he was involved in covering up the crashed stats with Gale in the reports to LRH – there was no cover up, the crashed stats were a result of the destruction of the Mission Network.

    • StudentOfLife

      Here is a great quote from the above cite from a poster who wanted to go after Miscavige and witnessed beating by Let Him Die Miscavige. July 15, 2013 at 10:04am. I think his name is Joseph per the reply below it.

      Quote from Thoughtful: People do not realize that the moment they step foot upon the soil of the CoS Headquarters outside of Hemet California, they are literally trapped in an incredibly elaborate web. This is really a big reason Scientology-cult.com exists — to warn and protect people.

      Miscavige is a criminal of epic portions, but he is incredibly devious especially thanks to those who were so monumentally insane that they spent 20 years protecting him at all costs.

      DM and company followed a written program for dealing with their enemies which included getting their enemies “arrested and put in prison by any means possible.” That’s in writing, I’m sad to say, from LRH. That’s why some of the people who could have easily maimed DM decided to just get out rather than to physically retaliate and face an almost certain prison term.

      Nevertheless, when I saw that DM wanted to visit violence on Miscavige is a criminal of epic portions, but he is incredibly devious especially thanks to those who were so monumentally insane that they spent 20 years protecting him at all costs.

      DM and company followed a written program for dealing with their enemies which included getting their enemies “arrested and put in prison by any means possible.” That’s in writing, I’m sad to say, from LRH. That’s why some of the people who could have easily maimed DM decided to just get out rather than to physically retaliate and face an almost certain prison term.

      Nevertheless, when I saw that DM wanted to visit violence on me personally, I let it slip out to Claire Headley that if DM laid one finger on me I intended to maim and perhaps kill him with my bare hands. I let that “slip” out to her because I already had discovered that anything told to her was reported straight to DM, actually her room was bugged anyway — everyone knew that — so if she didn’t report it and someone else happened to be listening in, she would have been toast. So she had no choice but to report that.

      As a result, DM never touched me, but instead — when he was mad at me — he once beat up Mark Yager and the second time he was mad at me, he bashed Mike Rinder’s head against the wall. I left after that. – See more at: http://www.scientology-cult.com/secret-history-of-david-miscavige.html#sthash.SFsd5GCa.dpufme personally, I let it slip out to Claire Headley that if DM laid one finger on me I intended to maim and perhaps kill him with my bare hands. I let that “slip” out to her because I already had discovered that anything told to her was reported straight to DM, actually her room was bugged anyway — everyone knew that — so if she didn’t report it and someone else happened to be listening in, she would have been toast. So she had no choice but to report that.

      As a result, DM never touched me, but instead — when he was mad at me — he once beat up Mark Yager and the second time he was mad at me, he bashed Mike Rinder’s head against the wall. I left after that. – See more at: http://www.scientology-cult.com/secret-history-of-david-miscavige.html#sthash.SFsd5GCa.dpu

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Uh, you might want to go back and edit that comment. There seems to have been a cut ‘n paste issue.

        • StudentOfLife

          already done, lol. Thanks!

  • Someone was very careful to lock out Jeff Jacobsen’s old site from the Wayback Machine. Who could possibly have done such a thing? Who, I wonder?

    https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.primenet.com/~cultxpt/
    The rest of the site is fine:
    https://web.archive.org/web/20150911015056/http://www.primenet.com/

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      His own web page appears to be fine:
      http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/

      • And archived too: https://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.jeffjacobsen.org/

        Either Primenet put an exclusion in their robots.txt file or the Internet Archive got some legal paper dropped on them. Either way, I’m curious of how much effort it took. If it was just a bogus DMCA claim, people could lock out a lot of the archive if there were no current owners to contest the removals.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          The CoS moves in mysterious ways, I will give you that. Whenever it is anything that involves people in the Good Fight, things like this make you go, “Hmmm.”

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Had to do Some kind of creative release on days like this, so I was wondering (Nat and Miss Tia) if we could have a HowdyCon 2016 logo contest next? Vistaprint is fairly cheap and everyone could buy their own kind of tshirt or sweathshirt, etc. And maybe we could get better quality shirts if we had a quantity that would reduce the price. Ask Santa for one! There’s maybe better ones than Vista out there if anyone knows. Maybe free shipping if we have enough people who are going to buy them. Plus, you gotta have a logo for a convention no matter what.

    Just thought I’d start it off, but I know we have mucho talent here in the Bunker. Even those who are not going to be able to make it, you could wear yours at home as the live blogging goes on, right?

    http://i.imgur.com/435aHiL.jpg?2

    http://i.imgur.com/Q3Qbnra.jpg?1

    • Miss Tia

      love the logo contest idea!!! what about if the winner–voted on by us all of course—is the ‘official’ design and then we could have a howdycon zazzle (where even the other contenders could be available) where people could order their own shirts/sweatshirts/buttons/bags, whatever they wanted in whatever sizes, colors, styles, etc…..i’ve gotten shirts off zazzle and they are guaranteed and stand by it—someone sent me the wrong size, zazzle told me to keep the wrong size and they sent me the correct size (zazzle didn’t mess up, my friend ordered me the wrong size unknowingly)…..

      you can set it so there’s no profit….if it was set TO a small profit, that profit could go towards our group dinner bill or something like that? i know nothing about vistaprint….i have worked with zazzle personally—store and bought/gotten gifts….

      • flyonthewall

        will we be able to bedazzle our zazzle shirts?

        • Miss Tia

          yes of course!!! adds sequins and glitter to fly’s list with blue m&m’s…..

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            and Jimmy’s has to be green with peanut butter and jelly.

            • Miss Tia

              do they even make such m&ms? oh who am i kidding, of course they do!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yeah, Zazzle is good. While it may seen too soon (6 months out) to need a T-shirt, having the logo for a convention should be done soon! And we have so much talent here. And if you can get a count of how many want to order something, tshirt or hat, you can go to Zazzle and get special deals, say if you had 50 or more but I don’t know there discount/quantity breakdown. But having the logo now would be great.

        • Miss Tia

          well doing it thru zazzle, people could order when they could afford it, pick their own color, style, etc…..instead of a bulk buy–i think that’s just for one style and i know i have personally will have to get the cheapest one available so people have to have options, options are good! 🙂 …..when we run a logo contest/vote on a design, we’ll set up a shop with different things….you wanna email me and we can work out contest dates/times? i think i have your email somewhere but it’d probably be easier— tia(at)misstia(dot)com we’ll get it all figured out, properly announced, etc! 🙂

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Sure – Vistaprint you can do individually too, and they’re so cheap – tshirts start at under $4! I guess it doesn’t matter – will email you now. Hey, this is fun!

            • Miss Tia

              very fun!! I know zazzle has good quality—even the cheapest….i know nothing about vistaprint or their guarantees, etc….we’ll work this out….i’ll watch for your email!! 🙂

      • Chee Chalker

        I’ll throw out this idea since I have no shooping skills…
        What was Howdy’s avi? Wasn’t it the bear/man eating the large turkey leg from LRH’s brilliant tome History of Man
        I propose the bearman with Howdycon written above or below and with (optional) our avi names/pics on the back

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I thought about his avi – and was afraid that people would think it was one of those furry conventions. No, seriously.

          • Miss Tia

            oh i get your point….um, yeah….never thought of that before….

            how about a bear/man eating a turkey leg riding a shark? with HowdyCon above it and Cleveland below it 🙂 I can’t shoop, I can’t even draw….some days i can’t even articulate what i mean….that’s most days!

          • Sherbet

            Yes, but how could it be anything BUT the bearshark with the turkey leg? That’s how we remember Howdy.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              The avi is a bear, not a bearshark, but I seem to think of him with the bearshark thing? Maybe he changed it and I didn’t see.

            • Sherbet

              He used the altered image (provided by Observer?) with the shark head on the bear, chomping the turkey leg. But what’s going on in Paris sort of pushes this discussion to the side.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Okay – yes, i remember now – I think of his love of sea life I guess, Bearshark is good. (I’m secretly counting on Obs to come up with one of her awesome pieces, altho logos have to be on the simple side. I figure she will nail it – as always)

            • Sherbet

              My money’s on Observer, too. She’s brilliant.

          • Chee Chalker
  • Mark

    By special request of Graham—see earlier shoop. (Refreshingly infantile?):

    • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

      Love!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Awwww.

      Xenu is so cute when He is on the Dainty Miss’s finger.

    • anoni81b4u

      Graham great idea
      mark … great execution 🙂

    • Graham

      Thanks Mark! I’m guessing there are Karin Pouw and Tommy Boy puppets somewhere in Slappy’s Box ‘o’ Puppets.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      bwahahaha Love this Mark

  • TonyOrtega

    I have emailed Jonny Jacobsen to see if he’s reporting on the shootings. Nearly 11 pm over there.

    • Robert Hammond
    • FromPolandWithLove
    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Horrid news.

    • outraged

      omg, this is horrific. just awful.

      • salin

        It keeps getting worse. Currently 100,000 are in the stadium (near the bombings), that the police will not let leave – because there is active shooting happening so nearby. Hostages held at another site.

        • salin

          Numbers in the stadium revised to 80,000

    • Eclipse-girl

      NPR said 3 separate attacks.
      at least 18 dead.
      A hostage situation is also happening.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        The reports are fast getting worse, over 100 hostages, 26 to 36 dead, multiple attacks, President whisked away from the stadium. Hope we get something from Jonny soon. Very disturbing.

        • salin

          The people in the stadium are being held there (by police) – not a way to evacuate while it these events are ongoing. Frightening.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Breitbart is reporting over 60 dead, ABC News just reported 6 separate attack sites, over 100 held hostage – President Obama speaking now.

          • salin

            Mind boggling – 6 separate sites.

      • salin

        MSNBC just upped the fatality number to 35. *Shudder*

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        So many more confirmed dead now. It’s just awful.

      • Eclipse-girl

        Hostage situation is at a concert hall

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        26 dead.

    • Miss Tia

      Dafuq?!?!?! I didn’t know what you were talking about, went to a website and huge headlines, live links, and this is one of those horrible nightmare stories you know is ‘real’ but wish wasn’t and your heart aches and you wonder what in the world has happened to the world…..and we’ll later learn that it’s still here…people tended to others and helped calmed them despite their own fears, etc….humanity and common good shall never be conquered….

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I know, I feel sick inside, like I did after 9/11.

        • Eclipse-girl

          So do I.

        • Sherbet

          I feel even sicker, because after all the rah-rah This will not happen again! rhetoric, it continues to happen.

          • Eclipse-girl

            It will happen again, some where, some how.

            One of the very sad parts of the Human condition.

            • Sherbet

              “They” (whoever “they” happen to be) get what they want: For the world to be scared.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I am so damn sick tired of fear mongering.

              I know there a jerks / ass holes out there but people will be quick to point fingers.

              I think of the jerk of a Police Officer who committed suicide but was hailed as a hero who was murdered while on the job.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Fundamentalism has gotten out of hand imo and that’s why countries need to get their shitty laws off the books and start working together – it’s the only way. Scientology is just a small microcosm of the same problem.

            • salin

              ^^^^^^ This.^^

          • Free Minds, Free Hearts

            And crying.

    • This is really bad. Is ISIS behind it?

      • Eclipse-girl

        too early to know at this point.

        • I wonder if it has something to do with Jihadi John/Mohammed Emwazi being nuked.

          • salin

            I don’t think so. This sounds like a highly coordinated set of strikes – I imagine it took some time/planning, and unless my news was delayed – the Drone strike on Emwazi was within the past several days.

          • Eclipse-girl

            I know we all wants answers.

            But sometimes the first reports are filled with errors.
            As pissed off as I am, I want to be patient about who is to blame.

            Too many innocents have been hurt to fear mongering in the US..

    • outraged

      Can someone please give a complete succinct explanation of what happened and what is happening now? I am so horrified, I cannot bear to read the web or listen to the news. Hubs is working on lesson plans.

      • PickAnotherID

        It’s still unfolding, and the authorities aren’t sure themselves who’s doing this according to the news report I just heard.

  • Meanwhile, Lil Davey’s pal Lil Tommy makes The 10 Most Hated Men In Hollywood list. Run, boy, run! http://look.viralnova.com/most-hated-men-in-hollywood/22/

  • PickAnotherID

    I was digging through my old files and, among other things, found the work sheet I used while extracting the fluid intake numbers from the FSO logs on Lisa. It contains comments from her so called “caregivers” that were not included in the spreadsheet. What’s sickening is some of them appear to realize Lisa needs serious medical attention, but not one of them was willing to call 911:

    [[]=My notes & comments]
    [()=Log keepers comment]
    [NOTE: ‘Bite’ = 1oz, ‘Small Bite = 0.5oz, ‘Sip’ = 0.5oz for tracking purposes]
    [NOTE: All timer are Eastern Standard Time: GMT-5]

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = ]

    During Night:

    During Day:

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?:

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = ]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = ]

    Water:
    CalMag:
    Protien Drink:
    Other:

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?:

    —————————————————————-

    Report Date: 11/18/95 14:45

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 6.5oz]

    Turkey & Spagettie: 1 Small Bite [0.5oz]
    3/4 of Banana: 6oz
    Protien Drink: None listed.

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 12oz]

    Water: None listed.
    CalMag: 1-1/2 cups [12oz assuming an 8oz plasic cup.]
    Other: None listed.

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN [Not specified in log entry.]

    —————————————————————-
    Report Date: 11/19/95 18:45

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = ]

    Tuna Sandwich = [ ]
    Protien Drink: None listed.

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 16oz]

    Water: None (1 Sip, spit out.)
    CalMag: 2 cups [16oz assuming 8oz plastic cup]
    Other: None listed

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?:

    Took all vitamins [Types & Dosage not listed]

    —————————————————————-
    FSO 00138
    20/11/95
    12:16 pm
    RE Lisa McPherson

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?:

    None. (Goes for nap, back up in 3 mins.)

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = NO FOOD INTAKE]

    Bite of apple, spit it out.
    Bite of banana, ,spit out.
    Protien Drink: None listed.

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 4oz]

    Water: None (1 Sip, spit out.)
    CalMag: 1/2 glass [4oz assuming an 8oz glass/plastic cup]
    Other: None listed

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?:

    No. (Won’t take anything.)

    —————————————————————-
    FSO 00160
    20 Nov 95
    To SNR C/S
    >From Med. Off. Manager RE LISA MCPHERSON

    1:50 PM

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = 0.5hr]

    During Night: None (Kept jumping out of bed. [See above, re:’up in 3 min’]
    Susann Reid had to lay her down again & again.)

    During Day: 1/2 hr (Then jumping out of bed over & over again.)

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?:

    During the night. [Specific time not listed in log entry.]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 2oz]

    Three bites of banana, all spit out.
    Protien Drink: 2 sips [2oz].

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 8oz]

    Water: None (Has difficulty swallowing even a bit of water.)
    CalMag: 1 cup. (2nd cup vomited) [8oz assuming a plastic cup]
    Protien Drink: 2 sips [2oz]
    Other: None

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?:

    1 B1 [Dose not specified]
    (2nd B1 vomited.)

    —————————————————————-
    FSO 139
    21 Nov 95 12:00 PM. /RUSH/
    To: SNR C/S RSO
    From: Valerie Demange
    Re: Report on Lisa McPherson

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = 8hrs]

    During Night: 8hrs (Already asleep at 1am start of tour. Talking in sleep.)

    During Day: None listed.

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: 11:00 AM (Approximate)

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 3oz + ‘Lg’ PD]

    Eggs: 2 Bites [2oz]
    Toast: 1/2 Slice [1oz]
    Protien Drink: 1 Large [XXoz – Find definition of ‘Large’]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 16oz]

    Water: 2 Glasses [16oz assuming 8oz glass or plastic cup]
    CalMag: None (Refused)
    Other: None listed.

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?: (9:30am)

    B1 – 200 mg
    B6 – 100 mg
    C – 1000 mg
    Potassium – 200 mg
    —————————————————————-

    [SR & KR Merged as they report the same incidents from different perspectives.]

    FSO 00141 & 00142
    22/11/95
    11:20 AM
    Lisa McPherson
    Security Report

    FSO 00745 & 00746
    22 Nov 95
    Ethics FSO
    cc: HAS FSO
    via Qual Sec FSO
    via Dir Correction FSO Librarian FSO
    Knowledge Report HASFSO

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = 4 – 5hrs]

    During Night: 4 – 5 hrs (Bed was broken.)

    During Day: (Refused to sleep)

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: [Not specified in log]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 1 PD]

    Protien Drink: 1 [XXoz] ‘Shake’
    (Refused to eat & spit out everything else)

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 0]

    Water: None (Refused)
    CalMag: None (Refused)
    Other: Not listed

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?: [None specified in log]

    OTHER NOTES/COMMENTS:

    SG: Around 1am punched out a person who was being assigned to the watch.
    Valerie Demange is assigned to the watch & doing well.
    Alice Van Grondel replaced her around 2:00-2:30am.

    AVG: I went into the room & she was total Type III.
    Blabbering, incoherent nonstop.
    Shaking, no warm clothes on — a old top & shorts & shoes — no socks.
    I chased her around the place & got slacks, T-shirt, jacket, socks & shoes — She was like an ice cube.
    She talked incoherently hour after hour.
    Her breathe was foul.
    Looked ill like measles or chicken pox on her face.
    Had a fever to my touch.
    After 1 pm she went violent & hit me a few times

    —————————————————————————-
    FSO 00145
    26 Nov 95
    Public MLO
    Rita Boykin, FSC EUS RUSH
    Re: Lisa McPherson (Data correction re:Food for 11/29/95)

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: N/A

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: [Previous night, time not specified in log]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 8oz]

    Cold Cuts: Refused (Would not chew or swallow)
    1 Banana: 8oz (Mashed w/1 Tbls protein powder)
    Protien Drink: Refused (She would not drink this.)

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 0]

    Water: None listed.
    CalMag: None listed.
    Other: None listed.

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?: N/A

    OTHER NOTES/COMMENTS:

    She was lying down when I fed her.
    She tends to just hold things in her mouth or spit them out.
    I was making swallowing motions & rubbed my finger on her throat
    She finally swallowed the first and next couple of bites I gave her.
    Then she was very in PT and interested in the rest.

    —————————————————————————-
    FSO 00143
    26 Nov 95
    To: SNR C/S FSO
    From: Staff Chaplain
    Re: Lisa McPherson

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = 1hr]

    During Night: None (3:30am – 10:00am she was very nervous and violent.)

    During Day: 1hr (1:00pm – 2:00pm)

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT?: (Has not eaten.)

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 0]

    All food refused (She refused to eat the food brought to her.)
    Protien Drink: Refused (She refused the protein drink she usually takes.)

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 2oz]

    Water: None
    CalMag: None
    Other: OJ (little bit) = 2oz

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?: [Not specified in log entry.]

    —————————————————————-
    [FSO 00147, 00216, & 00215 merged as they all relate to the same time period.]

    FSO 00147
    29 Nov 95 11:00am
    SNR C/S FSO Valerie Demange
    Re: Lisa McPherson

    FSO 00216
    29/11/95 11:30 AM
    MLO Report
    Lisa McPherson

    FSO 00215
    29/11/95 1:20pm
    To: SNR C/S FSO
    From: Valerie Demange
    Re: Lisa McPherson
    (Addition to the morning report)

    HOW MUCH HAS SHE SLEPT?: [Sum = 6hrs ]

    During Night: 3hrs (During night of 11/28-11/29)

    During Day: 3hrs (1hr three times during day of 11/28)

    WHEN DID SHE LAST EAT/DRINK?: 7pm 11/28/95

    HOW MUCH DID SHE EAT?: [Sum = 1 PD]

    Protien Drink: 1 PD [ oz]

    HOW MUCH DID SHE DRINK?: [Sum = 8oz + 1PD]

    Water: 1 glass [8oz]
    CalMag: None listed (MLO: Will be given CalMag as well) [Refused?]
    Other: None listed

    ARE VITAMINS BEING TAKEN?:

    B1 – 300mg
    B Complex [Dosage not specified.]
    Potassium – 200mg
    Minerals – [Types & Dosage not specified.]

    OTHER NOTES/COMMENTS:

    She had herbs to help her sleep. [Type not specified. Valarien Root?]
    The rest of the time she talks and move on her bed or on the floor.
    She was violent for about 2 hours yesterday night.
    The rest of the time she was calmer and looks very tired.
    We had her take a bath as it was successful yesterday to have her sleep.
    The ‘watch’ said she was quieter, but suspects its because she’s weak.

    • Ruby

      This is so disturbing.

      • PickAnotherID

        I was focused on food and fluid intake with this worksheet. The full transcripts of the logs contain other things that are even worse. I’m holding off on posting them so as not to step on Tony’s stories.

    • Sherbet

      How could anyone who participated in the watch not have their own lives altered? Did they have no feelings? No remorse? No revulsion for what was going on? It’s sickening, and it was nothing short of torture. KSW my ass. Torture.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Yes, where Are they now? I know they are disappeared. I keep hoping one or more will show up finally.

        • Sherbet

          That must have been some pretty strong brainwashing to turn decent human beings into accessories — or even witnesses — to torture and death, all in the name of a fake religion with a flawed god.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Either that or they were natural born sociopaths.

            • Sherbet

              Yeah, I guess they pick the “bravest and brightest” to do a baby watch.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Whatever it was, it was criminal. Oh yeah, and inhumane.

            • Sherbet

              You said it. My heart breaks for Lisa’s family, knowing that the operation could have been called off, yet it continued for days.

            • Eclipse-girl

              Who fails to make sure someone gets the hydration they need?

              It was criminal abuse.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              From all the reports, she went through weeks of insane ethics handlings with staff but also Benetta Slaughter and was broken down before she even got to the Flag torture treatment. It’s all criminal, every bit of it.

            • salin

              Reading this – combined with the news unfolding in Paris – I feel physically ill.

            • Sherbet

              You’re not the only one, salin.

            • Sherbet

              You’d think, if scientology hadn’t inherited its antipsychiatry bias from the very insane lrh, some kind soul would have said, “You know, this girl needs a lot of help, and we can’t provide it.” But no. And there’s no use for me to “if only” myself into frustration. RIP, Lisa.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Exactly – that’s what I get all steamy and jump up and down and worst when I hear someone say indie stuff is okay and not harmful. Um, no. Not licensed to practice medicine Period especially when they believe in woo. It’s a very dangerous ruse.

            • Sherbet

              Thanking God you got out, TH. The church didn’t deserve your intelligence and compassion.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Hugs. I didn’t buy into a lot of shit, but I did buy into the AMA docs are bad – but only due to several extreme bad situations before sci – unfortunately it was one of the things I carried with me for too long after – doctors of woo are just as dangerous as scientologists, and it’s become a multi billion dollar business now!

              I now have a doctor that pretty much says bullshit about anything I ask about that’s remotely possibly woo. He also reminds me that human bodies get problems and sick and then reminds me of my age and not to expect freakin’ miracles. He’s grumpy like our Howdy – Just what I needed 🙂

            • Sherbet

              Your doctor sounds like a prize…except for that “age” excuse. I don’t want to hear it! I like believing in freakin’ miracles, like maybe I’ll run the Boston Marathon. (Pardon me while I guffaw.)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              You come with me my next appointment! “Look here, Doc, about this age thing. Um, Sherb wants to have a talk with you,” as I slip out the back 🙂

            • Sherbet

              Ha!

      • PickAnotherID

        This is a stripped down version of the logs, focused on food & fluid intake. The full logs are even harder to take, especially the stuff about how Lisa is inconveniencing everyone.

        • Sherbet

          Thanks for the warning. Just when I think the picture is as ugly as possible, it gets worse.

    • daisy

      I was always fearful to review the record. I am so sad I did, but thank you for your efforts.

      • Eclipse-girl

        It is difficult to read.
        No one should endure such a lack of care.
        There are laws about abuse in group homes, of the elderly, etc.

        • daisy

          This would never be allowed in state, provincial , institutions. In nursing homes, residential houses and group homes. They have independent agencies monitoring and reviewing every detail of activities of daily living. Scientology however is a religion and not subject to review. I am newly sickened by the above data.

  • I’m sure Miscarriage justified his suppressive actions by trying to make Lisa into a suppressive for trying to stop Scientology with her psychotic dramatizations! And of course, she was probably sent there to destroy Scientology by the psychs? Am I close?

    • daisy

      Does DM think any of his actions needs justifying ?? That would require a conscience.

  • About that picture of Miscavige that Tony posted above – no shoop can ever beat it. The douchey assholery is too strong in this one.

  • Shining a light on Scientology in the Internet Age:

    http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/flashlights.png

  • Sid (Phil)

    Another great video from Karen. Bottom line, as she states at the end of the video, in regards to their ranting: It. Does. Not. Work.

    I refer to these outbursts by Scientologists to protesters as ‘Manic Attacks’.

  • outraged

    oh god. Listening to the news is unbearable right now.

    Can anyone tell me which city will carry the olympic torch for HowdyCon 2016???

    • salin

      Cleveland!

      • outraged

        Yay!!! I have wonderful relative theres and I have never traveled there either.

    • Nat-leficent
      • outraged

        How did you get it to blink? lol
        I don’t remember that option.

        • Nat-leficent

          Not an option. I’m magik 😉

          • outraged

            Will you tell us this secret??

            • Nat-leficent

              *sigh* Yes.

              I made several pics and strung them together with a gif maker.

              http://ezgif.com/maker

              Now I’m not special 🙁

            • daisy

              not true

            • Nat-leficent

              TY Daisy. I can’t help but teach all the things I learn — which is why I will never get ahead in life XD

            • daisy

              I am not sure dedicating your career and spare time to teaching others not getting ahead in life. My sister and best friend are teachers. I have witnessed the work involved. I woundn*t or couldn*t I used to make my assistant teach the new staff.

            • Nat-leficent

              I like teaching people whatever they want to know. Don’t know why. Just always been that way.

            • daisy

              Lucky us students.

            • Nat-leficent

              😉

            • Ella Raitch

              i can relate to that

            • salin

              You are always special!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Not so fast, missy. Not just special. Special with glitter and stuff.

              http://i.imgur.com/7zl0vDB.gifv

            • Nat-leficent

              ;D

            • salin

              Stourten is jealous.

            • outraged

              You will ALWAYS be special.

            • Kestrel

              You’re not just special – you’re Nat-leficent.

            • Ella Raitch

              I was happier with the magik explanation 🙁

            • Nat-leficent

              Me too!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh my God.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Cleveland won if that is what you are interested in.

      I kind of thing Miss Tia will have a pretty detailed link with in a day ot two.

      The dates have already been decided. Middle of June, I think the 17 – 19?

    • Here, something unexpected found while looking for something else:

      http://linkis.com/url-image/http://static.boredpanda.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2015/07/leaf-sheep-sea-slug-costasiella-kuroshimae-fb.jpg

      It’s a Costasiella Kuroshimae sea slug.

      • outraged

        That is gorgeous dah link

      • PickAnotherID

        It looks like DW’s “Mary Moo Cow” from the ‘Arthur’ cartoons on PBS.

      • Sherbet

        Nature can produce something as marvelous as that and also something as hideous as people who kill.

      • Susan black

        Mother Nature! You just can’t beat her for beauty.

  • Tony Ortega

    Jonny Jacobsen just arrived at work, where he’ll be editing news on the shootings. I’m sure it will be a long night for him.

    • Eclipse-girl

      give him our thanks.
      we would buy him a beer or wine, if we could.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Coffee. Lots and lots of coffee. Thanks for letting us know, Tony. I’d like to know if Jonny is in a safe place. ABC is saying now the number of attack sites are 6.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          “Residents in Paris near the locations of the shootings are offering shelter on social media under the hashtag #PorteOuverte”

          🙁

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Thanks, Andrea. This is good to hear. I worry about journalists when these are the kind of stories they are covering. The firs 24 hours are so volatile and fast moving in these types of nightmares.

          • salin

            A beautiful response in the face of such terror.

            • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

              Yes.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Oh my God, this is so scary.

    • salin

      There is a campaign via social media – for people in homes and buildings in the area – to ‘open your doors’ to give refuge to those who were out for the evening (such as those still in the stadium) in order to get people inside and out of danger – as things are still unfolding. Reportedly people are doing just that.

      • Sibs

        Wow. Funny how horrific events like this bring out the good in people that wouldn’t themselves expect it, like opening up their doors to strangers.

    • salin

      Closing all of the borders now. No way to leave the country.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        That’s major.

        • salin

          Just got worse. Reports that the hostages are starting to be shot – one by one – message sent out (reportedly) from within the auditorium. Not sure how reliable the social media reporting is, though.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            God I hope not.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              From Polish news site :”Jeden z porwanych – dziennikarz – zdołał udziec z sali koncertowej. Z jego relacji wynika, że terroryści zabijają porwanych jednego po drugim.”
              It means: One of kidnapped – journalist – managed to escape from
              concert hall. From his report it looks like terrorists are killing
              kidnapped one by one

            • salin

              Horrific.

            • Sherbet

              The pathetic thing is, the terrorists probably will be dead themselves before this is over. Why not write a slogan, put the gun in their own mouths, and eliminate the slaughter of innocents? But no. This isn’t how fundamentalists work.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              There just are no words.

          • 0tessa

            Oh no, don’t let it be true

        • 0tessa

          Last time was 60 years ago.

          • salin

            Wow.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            That’s chilling. It reminds me too much of That moment on 9/11 – airlines shut down, borders. That’s when it really sunk in.

            • Eclipse-girl

              except we didn’t. Bush (pres) allowed his friends the Bin Ladens to leave the country.

    • 0tessa

      France is at war with the terrorists. State of emergency.

    • Polly Anna

      Beaucoup de bénédictions et de sympathie au peuple de Paris!

  • Asillem4

    Ugh, the sound on the video is so bad. 🙁 Wishing I could hear what’s being said in the videos.

    • Refresh, the sound is just fine now.

      • Asillem4

        thank you!

    • Eclipse-girl

      Tony said he swapped it out for a corrected version.
      I had audio issues with the imbedded clips.

  • marie

    The one thought that keeps resonating in my mind while reading or watching scn related material is “That fuckin cult of greed is severely violating these wonderful, compassionate humans who were for the most part, simply wanting to make a difference in the world.” It’s depressingly ironic that the ones who wanted to be humanitarians are the ones being treated in the most inhumane way. I have to hold on to the fantasy that somewhere there is a super dooper secret operation to take down DM and the organization and they are just needing time to make sure all the T’s are crossed and the I’s are dotted.

    • Allie

      Well said, Marie. And I totally agree with you about the fantasy. May it come to happen—soon.

    • Liberated

      In my experience the people that were actually decent, kind and good intentioned were the people that were treated the worst. It is an evil , greedy, controlling God awful cult. It needs to go. It makes me sick the horrific abuses that psychotic creep Miscavaige gets an away with.

  • 0tessa

    It seems the theater in paris is being assaulted now by French special troups.

    • salin

      They had to – no more hope of a chance to negotiate – and hostages are reportedly being shot one at a time (Poland with love reports down thread.) Please let them be successful, while minimizing any additional bloodshed.

      • FromPolandWithLove

        My news site is reporting about attack by french troups.

    • salin

      Just heard there were reports of explosions in or near the music venue. Could that be part of the assault by police?

      • 0tessa

        yes

        • salin

          Thanks.

  • PickAnotherID

    I need to call it a night. I’m slowing down and just can’t keep up with everything here and the news at the same time anymore.

    • salin

      Good night, PickAID

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Good night and get some good rest. I know what you mean, the Bunker is pretty crowded and zippity thee days, isn’t it?!

    • Sherbet

      Thank you for the Lisa McPherson report, as difficult as it is to read it.

    • daisy

      Thank you for your information You seem plenty fast to me. Rest now.

  • Politics and religion = Hell.

  • 0tessa

    Agence France-Presse: terorrists attacks at seven places in Paris.

    • So fucking brave to attack civilians in Paris. You are done mofos.

      • Sherbet

        The problem is, they’re never done. They’re like cockroaches. No government can stamp them out, because there’s no identifiable “them.” Nobody is wearing a uniform, fighting in formation, flying marked planes…this isn’t war, it’s sneaky, underground guerrilla tactics from a faceless army. I’m sorry; I’m feeling sad and cynical, and after 9/11 we thought “they” would be wiped out. This isn’t about religion. It’s fanaticism, and I don’t know how the governments of the world can find and fight them.

        • Killing innocent people as a statement is criminal and insane. We are living in progressing society. The security measures develop and a general awareness expands. Just watch.

          • FromPolandWithLove

            Your statement Dodo reminds me Fukuyama’s essay The end of History.
            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_End_of_History_and_the_Last_Man
            Author was optimist after end of Cold War Era , because of decline of totalitarisms, economy development he has predictions of worldwide peace and development. And then global war with fundamentalism happened. Yes we are progressing society, but progress isn’t pararell in all regions of globe. I belive in humanity , but I’m less optimistic about future than You Dodo,

            • Frodis73

              I try to be hopeful, but it is so hard sometimes…I guess I *want* to be an optimist about the whole thing, but reality wins most times and it feels so hopeless at times. sad smile. Know what I mean?

            • FromPolandWithLove

              :)Sad smile to You Frodis and warm hug….

            • Frodis73

              Thank you and hugs back.

            • I am not optimistic, just realistic. And really furious about terrorism.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              BBC reports 100 dead people in Bataclan Club. I can’t find words Dodo… 🙁

            • It’s a really sad day.

          • Sherbet

            I hope it’s not too late to put the insane where they belong.

          • Doc M

            Considering that the last 100 years have been the bloodiest and most genicidal in recorded history (including the present), doesn’t seem so progressive to me.

  • 0tessa

    Occupation by terrorists of Bataclan theather is ended. 2 terrorists killed by police. Many deaths and wounded.
    But it is ended.

    • salin

      Thank God.

  • Doc M

    Scientology is a horrendous, dangerous organization, which specializes in brainwashing people. They use terrorist methods against their perceived enemies. Being in the bunker and so focused on Scientology, it’s easy to forget that there are many such cultist and terrorist groups operating.

    Paris!

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Oh my god. Reports coming in perhaps most of the 100 in concert venue killed. Suicide bombers went in and detonated.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      In Paris. You are looking at early reports. Three sites, at least 43 dead. The President of France was at the sports stadium when the attacks were carried out. At least 100 are being held hostage at a theater.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        French President was evacuated, and the borders of France are now closed.

      • Liberated

        The news has officially announced 100 killed in nightclub.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Just saw that update. 100 dead at concert hall. Horrible.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            I have been trying to work and follow this horrible news at the same time. First chance I have had to look at the Bunker all afternoon… and this.

            And people wonder why we oppose extremist religious groups.

            • Liberated

              Yeah, this is a sophisticated , well coordinated attack.

            • Frodis73

              And people wonder why we oppose extremist religious groups.
              ^^^This x 100

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            “At least 118” says the deputy mayor.

    • flyonthewall

      The band playing was Eagles of Death Metal. Two guys from Queens of the Stone Age. I read the singer escaped but idk about the other one. Apparently they were childhood friends. Hope they’re both ok.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I saw a twitter feed, I think the leader, saying he is still trying to find his crew. But then everyone scattered. If he was okay, seems his band might have a chance. I can’t imagine what they witnessed. Didn’t know they were from Queens. Brings it all home.

  • Miss Tia

    As if Lisa’s story didn’t require some emotional succor, reading about Paris, there’s no words. Hug your loved ones, tell those out of hugging reach you love them, have a cup of a beverage of your choice, and if it’s overwhelming to read about Paris (I know it is, but if you feel EXTREMELY overwhelmed), please turn off the computer/tv. It’s okay if you do that. Just grab a teddy bear (human or stuffed) to hug. (F5)

    • Sibs

      I just got home and saw the news. =/ And where do I go? Reddit, the BBC, and the Bunker. Kangaroo picture makes me feel a little better.

      • Miss Tia

        I’ve been on the BBC and of course here. I need a teddy bear though.

        • Sibs

          Mine is right here. I wish my big teddy bear wasn’t at work, though, I could use a hug.

  • aegerprimo

    I know everyone is watching the news and alarmed about the terrorist attacks in Paris….

    I just found this interesting article.

    What Is the Church of Scientology Doing in Israel?
    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julie-gray/what-is-the-church-of-sci_b_8552132.html

    Some excerpts…

    The Scientology Centre in Jaffa sticks out like a store thumb.

    I have walked by the incongruous Scientology Centre in Jaffa many times and have never been able to wrap my mind around why on earth they have a presence in a country that is overwhelmingly religious, with Jews, Muslims, Druze and Christians. Who is the target audience of Scientology here?

    I couldn’t help but wonder if this large and legendarily monied organization also has initiatives to address the conflict between Israel and Palestine.

    What would be wrong with simply asking, I thought, as I prised open the very heavy door to the centre.

    I introduced myself to the receptionist and asked if I could speak to anyone about peace initiatives that Scientology is involved with here in Israel. This seemed to set off a flurry of activity and some concern. In the 40 or so minutes I was there, I was plunked in front of one of the videos and asked by four different people, four different times, what my name was, who I was writing for, and why I was writing an article about them. I’m just a blogger, I said. I’m just curious.

    You blog at the Huffington Post? one of my chaperones asked, with a smile. I spend every afternoon dealing with the Huffington Post. Are you sure they’ll publish this? He smiled broadly. It only struck me later that I had been given a warning of some sort. Or had I? Being in a Scientology centre comes with a degree of paranoia.

    Read on…

  • Scientology Is A Dead-End Road

    Likely it was taken off of his site some time ago, but Pierre Etheir (Class 12) did an
    excellent evaluation on Lisa, almost as a detective from the logs that leaked out
    of her imprisonment time coupled with the fact that she did L-11 at about the same time.
    Three powerful things, NONE complete would be enough to destroy anyone.
    Pierre was out of the “church” in the eighties.

    The above is par-for-the-course for DM.
    It always seems amazing that he’s not recognized as an SP in and out.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Terrorists never anticipated, I am sure, that this will inevitably backlash on them. As it is, they did two things this evening that would have been unthinkable (except as a joke) previously:
    1. Got the French to open their doors to complete strangers on the street.
    2. Engendered vast sympathy for the French worldwide.

    • aegerprimo

      Yes, those two things are rare for the French. People in crisis can do amazing things, even the French.

  • This is going to be unpopular with some, but we are all adults here – be alert and arm the fuck up, if you can.
    Guns are for protection. Just ask the nation of Switzerland.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      A knife will do too.

      • It’s a good start.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          No ammo here – but I could play some Hubbard tunes really really Loud.

          Waiting to hear about some family – security got tight tonight in St Louis due to Paris/soccer stadium – U.S. Soccer team playing/practicing tonight – and they are there.

          Just heard the game is ongoing, so all good there. We’re winning 3-1

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Yeah too bad my govt has disarmed all the civilians here.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      Well, in fairness, living in a bunch of mountains and government-mandated nuclear bunkers also helps.

    • aegerprimo

      Oh Dodo…. I’ve had a long day and my brain hurts trying to understand your comment mixed with snark, reality, and sarcasm.

      • No snark or sarcasm.

        • aegerprimo

          I need sleep and will stop typing now.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      In my family we called ’em equalizers. This is true.

    • Sandy

      You are correct, That is unpopular with some of us

      • And it’s okay. People should not be forced to own guns.

    • Eclipse-girl
  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Message from Jonny Jacobsen: “All well here. Hard at work.”

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thnks again, Andrea. Relief

      • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

        Parisian friends and critics known to many of us are starting to Safety Check themselves on Facebook. Technology can be wonderful in these times.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          all accounted for yet?

          • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

            Still waiting to hear from Jeff René Drea, Hole.

    • aquaclara

      Oh, thank heavens. Pass on our hugs and best. And to take good care.

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)

    Probably won’t watch Die Hard for a month.

  • Liberated

    The death count keeps rising. A band called The Def Tones are accounted for, but not sure about The Eagles of Death Metal. ‘ I’m watching T V news.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      118 so far.

    • Miss Tia

      I hadn’t seen the Deftones mentioned before, just the Eagles of Death Metal.

      ETA: this says the Eagles of Death Metal are accounted for too. The Deftones had left 15 minutes before the attack. http://www.fuse.tv/2015/11/deftones-paris-terrorist-attack-15-minutes

      • Liberated

        I did on MSNBC. they were scheduled to play later.

        • Miss Tia

          Deftones started a 3 night gig there Saturday night. (Wait, it’s probably Saturday there now).

          I don’t have TV, didn’t even know what happened til I saw it here.

          • Liberated

            How did you know the deftones had a 3 night gig ? Now T V says 140 killed.

            • Miss Tia

              The link I included above in my comment to you in the ETA said that.

          • flyonthewall

            i loved the deftones back in the day

            • Miss Tia

              those are great albums!!! i listen to some of their new stuff too!

            • flyonthewall

              i havent heard any of their new stuff, I’ll give it a listen

            • Miss Tia

              Well this was ‘new’ 5 years ago….have you heard this one? Probably? Time is sometimes a weird concept to me and it didn’t seem like this was from 5 years ago…..
              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=woR6ohiFeYE

            • flyonthewall

              That was actually really good, I listened the whole way through. I first worried it would sound exactly like their old stuff but it was very fresh. Now I want to go to the record store! Thnx a lot Tia 😉

  • Scientology Is A Dead-End Road

    Karen nails it again.
    Hubbard is an SP, as he created this mess.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    So terrible about Paris, I cannot imagine what horror they are feeling. My hope they can begin to heal. I know that will not be possible for many, but my thoughts are with them.

    And when some asshole Scientologist perks up and offers their bogus harmful “technology” and poking fingers, I urge the French people to ban them from their country as yet another totalitarian abusive and ultimately terrorist (emotionally and financially) group.

    • Chee Chalker

      I urge the French to break any poking Scientology fingers

  • Liberated

    And I thought yesterday was a depressing emotional day at the Bunker , YIKES!

  • B4you

    some good news…

    French taxi drivers have agreed to turn their meters off for the night, and drive people home to safety for free— Tom Steinfort (@tomsteinfort) November 13, 2015

    • Allie

      Major tears. There ARE good people in the world who help others. ***off for tissues***

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Courage, France.

    • Ella Raitch

      I’ve just woken up to this – sending love to you and those you care about.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)
    • A bird in the chimney

      A thousand times this sentiment. I’m just getting to the computer. Glad to see Jonny J safe and accounted for, but still taking in the scope of this event.

  • aegerprimo

    I wonder if the Co$ will make a big deal about Volunteer Ministers helping the victims in of today’s terrorism in Paris in the coming days. Good thing France has closed it’s borders.
    (….Trying to keep things On Topic…)

    • Miss Tia

      You know OT is fine. It makes me feel sicker to think of them profiting off of these horrible terrorist attacks—if that’s possible.

      • One Human

        Watch for the fundraising, which will not be used to help actual victims.

        • Miss Tia

          that’s the scientology way!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You know they will.

      They are vampires.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      VMs are nothing more than pseudo-spiritual ambulance chasers, profiting on the woe and horror of disaster. They deserve no respect and should be banned.

      • aegerprimo

        Yep.

      • One Human

        Very accurately concise statement MLT!

    • Liberated

      Don’t put anything past those rapacious scumbags.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Fundamentalism terrorizing manipulating extreme insanity in the name of a cause – it is totally on topic, I think A. I don’t know what more it will take for the U.S. to change the damn antiquated laws and stop protecting Any form of it here in the US and that include scientology. No person no group who commits crimes, harms others in the name of a cause should be protected any longer because religious.

      It’s why I think more people need to know about scientology and glad to hear about Going Clear, and Leah. Scientology is small, but it IS a part of the problem, but gets by with it here because of our unbalanced laws. Sorry, I just ranted didn’t I? done now:)

      • aegerprimo

        Good rant.

      • Ella Raitch

        There is such a wealth of documentation around Scientology through years of the critic movement that can be studied to help shine the light on other forms of fundamentalism. The parallels are striking.

      • Liberated

        HEAR——HEAR !!!! The Bunker rules! We must stay vigilant.

      • Zeruel (Sebastian)

        Maybe not arrested, but certainly given a restraining order.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          No – arrested. During a disaster, – you bet.

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            If they are arrested, it will only play to their propaganda. Especially if it’s made to look like they were arrested for helping people or just standing around.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              They can natter natter natter, whine whine whine, all night long – behind bars. Professionals are the only ones that should be in the area and they can point out the vultures to the cops with experienced eyes and ears. There’s no such thing as “Just standing around” in the middle of hell where people are dying or in danger of it any moment. Let them prove their case in court – oops, they can’t.

      • One Human

        I would also add the exploitive parasites the Oathkeepers.

    • I’m sure there are already messages on social media trying to gather donations (because CoS won’t buy those plane tickets), possibly with bogus claims of how they were “invited” by someone in the government who will turn out never to have heard of them.
      ..

    • salin

      *Wretch* (reflexive)

  • Sibs

    Ugggggggh, the death toll is rising, I feel sick. Combating fanaticism with free thinking and tolerance – THIS is why what we do and say on this blog matters.

  • aquaclara

    Sending love to France. Big hugs. Stay safe. Jonny, take care. Bunkerites, you, too. Exes, you, too.
    Love,
    The entire Bunker

    And for those still in Scientology in France, stay safe. We want you safe, no matter what.

    • Sunny

      Jonny indicated he was safe (on Facebook) about 45 minutes ago.
      I hope my ex-husband and his family are safe. They are all from Paris. I have no way to know, I can only pray for them. (They are all still in Scn).

      • Supper Powers

        Thank you.

      • aquaclara

        I hope so, too. Good luck, My mom was there three weeks ago. Thankfully, now home.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          YOur mom was? Wow – You must be quite relieved.

          • aquaclara

            I am. It was a trip of a lifetime. Paris is so beautiful.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          My parents just returned 2 weeks ago from their annual visit there. They are pretty shook up about it.

    • Glom_of_Nit

      Thanks, Aqua. It’s a horrible night here in Paris…

      • aquaclara

        I’m horrified by what has happened, as are we all. You’re not alone, and I am sending many prayers your way. Take care, Glom.

        • Glom_of_Nit

          Thanks again. The support and love coming from everywhere in the world is very comforting.

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)
    • flyonthewall

      when was it ever funny? wtf is he talking about?

      • Zeruel (Sebastian)

        He suggesting the French deserve the terror attacks for engaging in Middle East adventurism. Fucking not the time or place.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Not what he said in that statement, actually

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            That is the implication.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          That’s not what he said, Sebastian.

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            See below.

  • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

    Please can we steer clear of politics? I’m finding it quite upsetting when bodies aren’t even cold yet, let alone counted.

    • pat k

      But it’s ok to grieve…right? As I said to my 23 year old:” This IS life changing but I am watching ‘Say Yes to the Dress'”.

      • Sibs

        Yeah, I may go out and watch college football as previously planned in about an hour. Not because I don’t care about what’s happening, but because nothing is going to change by my sitting at the computer hitting refresh and poring over every detail. It’s still going to be horrific and the more details, the more horrific it’s going to be.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Yes, you should 🙂

    • Mockingbird

      I hate these incidents.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      One minor political observation before I step off… Marine Le Pen is going to exploit this thing like crazy. Count on it.

  • Sibs

    Good news – survivors being found at the Bataclan. They were hiding in the balconies.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      I was in Finland when the Boston Marathon bombing happened. Having the same uneasy feeling now.

      • Liberated

        May I ask what you were doing in Finland?

        • Zeruel (Sebastian)

          Exchange student.

          • Liberated

            Cool.

  • jazzlover

    This has now been classified as the deadliest attack on Paris since WWII. Here in NY, the NYPD and the New York State Police have been put on alert as a security measure.

  • Supper Powers

    Any word from our man in Paris?

    • Sibs

      Yeah, Tony and Andrea said that he’s okay.

      • Supper Powers

        Thanks.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Tonight I don’t feel American so much as human, but with a French heart. Our heavy thoughts and concern are with all of Paris tonight. Please stay safe and hold your loved ones tight. I am so sorry for your losses.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      I personally have bones to pick with the French for very personal reasons, but absolutely no one — and I mean ABSOLUTELY NO ONE — deserves this atrocity.

    • Allie

      Beautifully stated, Hole.

    • One Human

      All divisiveness in the world is enabled by the forgetting that each of us as individuals share one commonality, we are EACH but one human.

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT. Mark Bunker just Tweeted that he will be on the Lars Larson show.

    Mark just started at 8:24pm Eastern. Topic: Scientology. And Mark’s upcoming film

    Click on the 3-6pm (Pacific Time) audio icon for the player.

    http://larslarson.com

  • outraged

    my girl has a friend in paris. She is very scared and said “it happened below my home”. This is awful. We were sitting at TGIF’s and my first thought was pictures of bombings and shootings in NYC. It will happen, one day.

    This has been planned for months and months.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      You’re not helping with the “it will happen one day” rhetoric. That’s exactly what these criminals want.

      • outraged

        I’m sorry. I do understand.

        I work in NYC, I was there when the first bombing happened at the WTC. I walked into smoke in the bowels of the twin towers.

        I will NOT curtail ANYTHING in my life. But I refuse to live with blinders on. When I go to work I take enuf meds for a week, for example.

        • jazzlover

          I was working in Jersey City at the time, watching military helicopters circle the towers in the snow flurries.

          • outraged

            I was going on a video shoot, took the subway downtown and walked out in the underground atrium. It was filled with smoke. Very scarey. I saw NO ONE. THat was the worst part. I made my way outside knowing every crack and crevice and flagged down a cop. I could see flames coming out of the building. I also worked at Bankers Trust which became the Deutsche Bank Building, and I parked my bike on this narrow strip of curb right at the entrance to the underground garage. I was blessed with a different job that day.

            • Zeruel (Sebastian)

              I was four.

            • jazzlover

              That does sound bad! There were people celebrating on the roof of a building in Jersey City that day. I was disgusted. It was the first time I realized the world had changed forever. I lived in Queens at the time and it took me about 5 hours to get home. The PATH was closed to WTC, so I had to take the roundabout way to Penn Station. When I walked outside, The Empire State Building was being evacuated because someone called in a bomb threat. The streets were crowded, and the subway platforms were packed at least 10 rows of people deep. That was the beginning. 9/11 should never have happened.

            • Zeruel (Sebastian)

              Wait, are we talking about 1993 or 2001 now?

            • jazzlover

              1993.

            • outraged

              all of it.

            • outraged

              No, it should never have happened.
              I blame Bush and the killing of Saddam Hussein. He may have been a horrific ruler but he kept a crazy sort of peace in the region that has been destroyed forever. THe world will NEVER be the same.

            • One Human

              The insincerity of our efforts in Iraq will remain a plague for quite some time.

            • Eclipse-girl

              we never should have been in Iraq – but that is for another place.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            I was on the hill at Stevens Tech in Hoboken. Walked out my dorm for breakfast and looked across the river to see all of the helicopters flying around lower Manhatten and all of the emergency vehicles tearing down the West side expressway. Surreal.

            • jazzlover

              It was totally surreal. I thought I was seeing things. We should’ve taken it more seriously.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          There’s alarmist and there’s realistic. I think you are being realistic.

          • Frodis73

            Exactly. To be hones, Im surprised this stuff doesnt happen more.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Fly – all members of Eagles Death Metal band accounted for.

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      On the other hand — death toll is now at 140.

      • aegerprimo

        153 per CNN.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Several were asking about them earlier.

        • Zeruel (Sebastian)

          I know, just felt the need to update.

  • aegerprimo

    I will be on the Lars Larson show in just a few minutes. https://t.co/3cntPwvVQV— Mark Bunker (@XENUTV) November 14, 2015

    • outraged

      THank you from the twitterless!!!

    • scottmercer

      Did he actually get on or was he pushed off due to breaking news?

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    If anyone, anywhere has ever wondered if the Citizen’s Commission on Human Rights is a legitimate organization that follows human rights abuses around the world, or is merely a cynical front group for a predatory organization that has as its sole aim to destroy psychiatry, I would invite them to look at what the CCHR has been tweeting in the last hour:

    (refresh)

    https://twitter.com/CCHR

    • Sibs

      Oh god, I don’t know if I can take it right now. Somebody tell me, how bad is it?

      • Frodis73

        Give them a minute…Im sure in the next 24 hours they will be.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Looks like the Scientologists are positioning the Psychs as bad, (and ultimately) as the cause of ISIS and the Paris attacks.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        No, I think they are oblivious to what is actually happening in the real world. This is doubtless just an auto-feed, with not a care about actual human rights violations taking place on the world stage.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          You are right, just probably generic blaming the psychs. But wait for it. They will get around to dragging this latest tragedy into their rhetoric.

        • Andrea ‘i-Betty’ Garner

          Yes, that is my take-away, Doug. Incredible.

        • Liberated

          Ain’t it the truth?

      • salin

        Insane, opportunistic, and absolutely revolting.

        Hey Scientology – it ISN”T about YOU .

        • scottmercer

          First mention of Volunteer Ministers in Paris will ignite firey Twitter outrage. Or should.

    • aegerprimo

      Well, they do not have favs or retweets for all their posts.

      • Zeruel (Sebastian)

        And this is the group you’re now lobbying for, ex-Rep. Dan Burton. Aren’t you proud?

        • aegerprimo

          Who the hell is Dan Burton?

          • Zeruel (Sebastian)

            Retired wingnut congressman who defended Scientology. Had a Scientologist as his chief-of-staff. Now a lobbyist for the CCHR.

            • aegerprimo

              Oh. Sorry, I was too lazy to use Google .

          • Liberated

            Dan Burton is former long term In. Congressman. Real piece of work. He’s the nut that was shooting up water melons to determine if Pres. Clinton shot Vince Foster. Also, big advocate for vaccinations causing. Autism. He’s nuts!!

  • Supper Powers

    These are the events that should illuminate that no amount of wishful thinking, auditing, praying or hoping will make our world better. We must do. We must treat each other better. We must behave in way that reflects that this earthly world, and each other, is all we have. And we must allow nobody to represent our politics or religions that says different.

    *hangs head*

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      “Do, or do not. There is no try.”

      • MaxSpaceman

        Yoda: “Do. Or not do. There is no try.”

        • Zeruel (Sebastian)

          NERRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRD.

          • Beth

            nerds are the best Sebastian. don’t fight it 🙂

          • MaxSpaceman

            You’ve gotta get it right. With a line as ‘iconic’ as that one, you don’t wanna blow it, when you quote it.

            It won’t be too hard to memorize for ya 🙂

    • Liberated

      Like the actually Buddha. said—-compassion.

    • Beth

      WORD.

  • MaxSpaceman

    OT.

    Mark Bunker’s segment on Lars Larson just ended.

    8:32pm Eastern.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Here is the most recent Twitter activity by the wooden-headed John Alex Wood:

    (refresh)

    https://twitter.com/johnalexwood

    • Sibs

      Completely oblivious. Head in sand tech.

  • mon elle

    The books that Ron would have published had he been a little more focused …

    • Are_sics

      I think the I-Snitch series was even more vital to KSW.

  • Are_sics

    Off-topic: Jonny Jacobsen reported safe, amidst the Paris attacks. All good wishes to Paris for recovery, justice, hostage releases….

    • chukicita

      THANK YOU for posting this. Was worried about Our Man in Paris!

      • Are_sics

        I see Tony posted about it earlier, but I missed it, and am glad to save you the scrolling — I just posted as soon as I saw Jonny report “safe” on Facebook. I don’t know anyone in Paris personally, but do a few “internet friends”; Jonny was my first thought…

    • arcinva

      Thank you so much for posting this! I came here specifically to see if anything had been posted.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Kirstie has tweeted nothing today, and Tom Cruise nothing since urging his followers to buy his latest movie out on Blu-ray. And nothing from the official Scientology twitter account.

    But that abberated SP Leah Remini has offered this message to her 300K+ followers:

    (refresh)

    https://twitter.com/LeahRemini

    • They are in solo sessions, auditing this incident out.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Cans in their hands and cotton in their ears?

    • Zeruel (Sebastian)

      Well, it’s like she said. Leaving makes you human again.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      {sarcasm} Tom Cruise is trying on many, many black turtleneck sweaters trying to find just the exact shade of black that will support his soon to be written, revised, edited and approved by his Scientology pope friend, heartfelt sincere practiced statement of his assurance that only Scientologist drive-by celebrities can help at the scene of terrorist attacks. {/sarcasm}

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)

    Well, CNN.com right now is as tasteful as ever.

    • arcinva

      IKR?! I was appalled.

  • Zeruel (Sebastian)

    Just curious: anybody ever been to the landmarks attacked?

    • outraged

      I have been to Pere Lachaise, which is a cemetery near one of the attacks.
      My thoughts are with Paris and the country of France. I am so sorry for your losses.

      This is where the attacks took place:

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Been to that area. All around the Bastille and le Marais. Parents just returned from there 2 weeks ago. Had dinner across the street from the theater. They’re pretty shook up right now.

        • outraged

          I am so sorry.

          I love the Marais district. Stayed there when I was in Paris.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Stayed right near Les Halles the first visit. Now my parents take an apartment on St. Germain just across the Seine. Lovely place. So sad for the citizens of that fine city.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    Religious and political fanaticism are among the greatest threats to life on earth.
    Here, daily, we learn about a microcosmic variant of the same disease.
    My prayers go out to the families of all those murdered.
    My heart is heavy.

    Vive la France.

    I hope Cardinale Richelieu is ok and Jens too.

    • Everything you said and this.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzlp5K66Ank

    • chukicita

      “Religious and political fanaticism are among the greatest threats to life on earth.”

      Thanks for articulating that, Pan.

    • aegerprimo

      Yeah.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I’ve sent Richelieu a note to make sure he and his family are OK.

  • Sibs

    Alright, I called the restaurant ahead to make sure I could get a TV to watch the game. I’m going to head out now. My thoughts, prayers, good vibes, and everything go to Paris right now. Like I said, I know some people trivialize the threat of $cientology (like, “This doesn’t affect me, this barely affects anybody”), but we all know that being vigilant isn’t just about being vigilant against that, it’s being vigilant and actively educating ourselves on what draws someone into a cult of greed or violence, what keeps them there, and what we can do about it.

    I’m out. Fight On, SC, and Beat the Buffs

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Thank you so much Karen de la Carriere, that is amazing that you put all those clips in this new video.

    My first impression of Karen’s video (which got re-issued since the first issue of it got eaten up somehow and Karen had to repost it), my impression was because of Karen’s excellent choice of clips, this video is educational for the series of unchanging official Scientologists incitement pubic behaviors that it lays out.

    Karen’s clips in her video show how active Scientologists continually historically and unchangingly fall into these tactics of inciting their “enemies.”

    Scientologists are incapable of having debates and instead incite an act the way they do for theoretical reasons covered in L. Ron Hubbard’s default incitement language and tactics policies.

    Excellent choice of clips Karen, just amazing, thanks so much.

    Scientology’s behaviors are so irreligious, and this video just reeks of irreligious Scientology parishioner activities that have no sane benefit for anyone in the human race.

    I tell public who ask me today “Is all the media about Scientology true?” I say it is worse. I say the media can’t even print or show the worst stories. This blog is so valuable and public who ask me, I tell them about Tony and this blog.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Now reporting that 1 member of the US of A band playing in Paris has been killed.

    MSNBC reports they spoke with Manager and Sound man.

    • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

      FTR, Eagles of Death Metal is the band, and last I saw on social media all members and crew are safe.

      • ReallyMGM

        I hope your report is correct and mine is wrong, 5 Foot.

        • 5 Feet Long and Luminous

          Me, too.

    • Are_sics

      The band is The Eagles of Death Metal (and they are not a death metal band… An archly-named state in-off of Queens of the Stone Age). I didn’t see who died. But I understand that the Americans can band was the main target… Words fail me. How about we stop killing, full- stop? Hippy idealist I must be.

      • ReallyMGM

        From what I read, one crew member was killed and another injured.

    • Missionary Kid

      They’re a local band from the Coachella Valley, the nightly news had them as being O.K., but the 11:00 PST news will have an update. (I’ll check the 10:00 PM early newscast, too) It comes on in about 40 minutes.

    • outraged

      All the band members survived. There were 120 people killed at the concert. The gunmen stood at the back and ‘shot them like birds’. Unspeakable tragedy. Just no words, none.

    • Missionary Kid

      The relatives and friends of the band report that everyone is unharmed. They immediately went backstage when things started in the venue.

  • Scientology failed to destimulate this planet.

  • Nat-leficent

    Does anyone have any guesses where Jonny Jacobsen’s reporting on these attacks could be found?

    • Frodis73

      AFAIK he has not filed anything yet, but I am not 100% sure of that.

  • Vaquera

    O/T: At 10:00 EST, roughly 23 minutes, Jamie DeWolf is on deck at Skepticon in Springfield, MO. If you are searching for some distraction this evening (I know I am) here is the link to the live video feed:
    http://skepticon.org

  • Fred G. Haseney

    Re: “Karen de la Carriere on Scientology’s ‘attack, never defend’ mindset.”

    In “Department of Governmental Affairs,” an August 15, 1960, policy letter by L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard lays out the exact steps to be taken when Scientology perceives a danger or an attack. The first step Scientology takes, of course, is not to play the game. The second step (as in the case of Tommy Davis versus John Sweeney) is to attack the enemy’s most vulnerable point (or, in Sweeney’s case, pounce on his emotional button: “bigot,” which made Sweeney emotionally upset; Scientology found his button and then exploded it). The third step in Davis versus Sweeney is more than apparent: the clamor that Davis caused, thwarting Sweeney’s every step, every move, even getting right in his face (Davis even seemed to dare Sweeney to breath). Karen de la Carriere’s video, “Church of Scientology Always Attack, Never Defend,” is a must for any ex-Scientologist because it’s actually tool they can use. In a way, using Hubbard’s 1960 policy letter in a “Reverse Dianetics” or “Reverse Technology” kind of way can put out the incendiary devices that the cult of Scientology uses so well when the cult suppresses anything they consider to be a danger or a threat to their survival. Think of that in Karen de la Carriere’s terms, and what you have is exactly what the cult of Scientology needs: a good spanking!

    • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

      Scientology is chock full of so many elephant in the room irreligious behaviors.

      Hubbard boldly misuses words.

      Scientology’s “Bridge to Total Freedom” operation, and the OT levels 3, 4, 5, 6 and 7 being high volume exorcism of the supposedly dead space alien souls that infest all humans’ bodies, and only Scientology’s secret exorcism can relieve humans of all these dead alien souls that infest everyone, and Scientology can’t even admit publicly they are doing all these massive amounts of exorcism,just adds to their overwhelming attention diverting behaviors.

      Scientology’s “hidden” and “secret” words like

      Xenu

      and

      “body thetans”

      the subject of Scientology is such a troublesome mess.

      L. Ron Hubbard’s theoretical spiritual operation gets lost in the mass of obnoxious behaviors Scientology exhibits on the world.

      But all Scientology is supposed to be doing is making “OTs”, or “Operating Thetans” or causative souls that can eject out of their human skulls and operate like Caspar the Ghosts and do good in the world and universe.

      the best Scientology can do is a little delusional couch jumping on Oprah’s TV show.

  • Jimmy3

    Just fucking sad.

  • Stay vigilant.

    • daisy

      How ?? CNN expert just said 80*s terrorism and WW*s the good old days. We can*t even get a f#$%king well publicized overt daring us to act , chirch closed after 60 yr. history of human rights violations shut down. Somebody tell us what to do ? Education is too slow.

    • coonellie

      Dodo, having grown up where bombs went off and being vigilant was the norm, I’ve been in the States too long and become too fat and content. I’m not sure how to stay vigilant in this country. If someone leaves a brown paper bag near an entrance no one looks twice or even thinks about it :(.

    • daisy

      I hope you understand I was not talking about you , but to you, general frustration all around. cults that kill. I hope. Staying vigilant good advice..

  • Lora Mohr

    So help me 8 pound 6 ounce Baby Jesus, if I see a Yellow Shirted VM in Paris…I will commit regrettable acts.

    • Miss Tia

      They will NOT be regrettable!!!

  • romanesco

    Interesting parallel between the Paris tragedy and Scientology:
    http://www.amazon.com/Radical-Journey-Out-Islamist-Extremism/dp/0762791365

  • Kim O’Brien

    we said grace tonight at family dinner for Paris . at my house . i’m an atheist. this is horrible

    • daisy

      I don’t know the exact quote or where it came from, I believe WW2 show. Nobody is an atheist in a fox hole, when bombs rain down.

      • Liberated

        The quote is from W. W I . I’M pretty sure , and no I was not there.

        • daisy

          Much needed laugh. I figured it came from one of my WW obsessions. I know much less about WW1 than 2

          • Liberated

            Thanks, I’m pretty bummed out. I took a break and watched Bill Maher. It did me some good.

            • daisy

              I have no idea where to find him these days. Used to watch Politically Incorrect back in the day. I will stop watching the news soon, my need to be informed wars with the depressed side of me.

            • Liberated

              He’s on HBO Friday’s at 10.

            • vicariousthrill

              You are wise to heed those signs, it’s how I maintain sanity. I no longer watch the news. I get information from public radio and even that gets turned off from time to time.

    • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

      It doesn’t sound horrible. Brush it off. No big deal. Everybody gets to believe what they want. Cheers! 😉

      • daisy

        I wasn’t passing judgement ?

        • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

          Yeah, I misunderstood her statement, so I deleted my comment… ;D

          • daisy

            Oh good , thanks for clarifying , at the risk of sounding trite, we are defined more by our agreements than our differences. Especially on nights like tonight. We can go back to debating and arguing any old day.

            • Joy Lover (Ex-CS)

              😀

    • Supper Powers

      Being an atheist doesn’t mean we don’t deeply feel or empathize. I join you.

      • daisy

        I agree, well said.

  • daisy

    Watch CNN TALKING ABOUT CULT CULTURE

  • Vaquera

    Anyone besides me watching Jamie’s CoS presentation?
    http://skepticon.org

    • Franklin Adams

      I was going to, then the craziness in France went down.

      • Vaquera

        I need something else to think about for a little.

    • Sergeant Pepper

      I saw some of it, He packs a punch.

  • B4you

    Just looking at the date, says it all!

    • salin

      Hadn’t dwelt on it. Realized a day or so ago that my father passed on a Nov. Friday the 13th. Some years the date effects me more than others. It has been more than 2 decades, so the emotional tug doesn’t have the same emotional impact.

      The events of today swept that thought/memory out of my mind. Numbing.

      • B4you

        I think the french will use this date like 9/11 and many other events. sorry about your loss!

        • salin

          I have had 2 decades to heal from the loss. Don’t mean to discount the grieving – it was long and hard. My comment was more to how the incomprehensible violence of the events in Paris – completely wiped clear my thoughts of the personal significance of the day.

          France has had two horror’s visited upon her in less than a calendar year. This one even more horrific than the first. Very comparable, I would guess, to our 9/11.

          But in the face of being welcoming to emigres from a horrendous war zone – way more complicated to navigate than what we had to face. My heart is wrenched.

          • B4you

            Well, don’t read the news tomorrow then. This Friday had a lot more devastating events we haven’t heard about yet! Like Earthquake in Japan.

            • salin

              Thanks for the warning. Am heading to bed. Will look for news from Japan in the am. Just can’t read about more devastation, til the morning. Peace, B4you.

            • B4you

              u2

      • B4you
        • salin

          Beautiful.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          By graphic designer Jean Jullien:

          (refresh)

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Without the label:

          • B4you

            Aha! A name to go with it. It’s all over the web 🙂

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Ach. Did not see the image until I refreshed.

  • TexasBroad

    At work most of the day and just now watching the awful news. Heartbreaking. I was anxious to watch the news reports, and just as anxious to get to the Bunker and check in here. Glad Jonny is safe. Hope to hear Richelieu is okay as well. I’m grateful for the friendships here.

    • salin

      Me, too – on all points.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      I have emailed. Will report as soon as I hear from him.

    • vicariousthrill

      Same here.

  • BostonApu

    You guys are the Scientology experts so answer this dudes question cuz its a good one.

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/julie-gray/what-is-the-church-of-sci_b_8552132.html?ncid=txtlnkusaolp00000592

  • Supper Powers

    Symbols

  • Missionary Kid

    Just to change the mood a little, “Pastafarian wins the religious right to wear spaghetti colander in MA state ID picture”

    It’s in the Raw Story http://www.rawstory.com/2015/11/pastafarian-wins-the-religious-right-to-wear-spaghetti-colander-in-ma-state-id-picture/

    • B4you

      Lol – there you have it F5

      • Missionary Kid

        I love it. A welcome change.

  • Ella Raitch

    For British/Commonwealth Bunkeroos I can report that the heir to the throne is looking well. Through a complete fluke of timing (with a window of about 60 seconds) I was stopped from turning into my street coming home from weekly grocery shopping by a motor cycle policeman who was blocking traffic for the motorcade – the Governor’s car passed within about 3 metres of me with the couple recognisable in the back. I managed a very unroyal wave out the window of my shit-box Kia.

  • daisy

    Good night bunker babies. Take good care of all

    • Jimmy3

      Night daisy. Love you ok.

      • daisy

        Back at you. Jimmy

    • Draco

      Night Daisy – sweet dreams 🙂

    • Nat-leficent
      • ReallyMGM

        This place is full of cats and beagles. Arrrooo

      • vicariousthrill

        Thank you. With all the horrible happenings, this pic is a balm to the soul.

      • Beth

        awwww. that’s me in about 5 minutes. well, kinda. g’ night amazing bunker. Love to all on this sad sad occasion.

    • vicariousthrill

      Goodnight daisy.

    • Liberated

      Night Daisy. Sleep good!

    • Mymy88

      Doggie pictures, yay! This is my little Duke, but I call him Dookie. He is a Dear Chihuahua and they call them that because they do look like miniature little dears. So cute omg! Little Dookie says goodnight and stay safe.

      • daisy

        I want to eat his face. Smoosh. Animals so much better than us humans..

        • Mymy88

          Agreed… both of your statements lol. He’s actually my next-door-neighbor’s little doggie but he’s over at my house half the time lol. I just want to steal him and cuddle up with him on my pillow like he was a little kitty cat lol. But he knows when it’s night night time, he is supposed to sleep with his mommy and daddy at his house lol.

  • Observer

    Horrible and surreal

  • PickAnotherID

    Crap! I’m back, couldn’t sleep with all the stuff going on in my brain. Report on ABC 9 minutes ago says all members of the American band are safe and accounted for. 7 of 8 terrorists went out in suicide bombings, the 8th was shot during the assault on the theater. Unknow at this time if any more are still on the loose.

    I keep wondering if there’s some significance to the murderers that the numbers in the date, 11-13-15, go up by 2’s?? Extremists seeming to put weird significance on odd things makes me wonder.

    • Liberated

      There is a significance to numbers, at least there has been in my life. Do you ever find yourself looking at the clock at the exact same time , all the time? It’s a real thing man. Don’t think I’m crazy, please.

      • Supper Powers

        I don’t think you’re crazy, but it’s not quite logical. I find comfort in illogical things, too. We are a weird species.

        • Frodis73

          Yes, the brain recognizes and sorts info by patterns and groups. We think we are seeing patterns or something special/magical/supernatural but its just the brain sorting and filtering info.

          • Supper Powers

            On point.

            I take comfort in knowing we are a really interesting part of this evolutionary journey. Thanks for pointing out this powerful part of our brain.

            • Frodis73

              Me too. I also find it fascinating and beautiful. That reminds me of the ultra religious that find science dirty and cold. Evolution is beautiful, how the body works, the birth/death of a star, rainbows, sunrise/sunset, etc. all are just as beautiful knowing the how and why…it doesnt take anything away (for me). Those that claim science is cold and unemotional-I just dont see it that way; its amazing and spectacular!

            • Supper Powers

              ^^^^^^^^

            • Frodis73

              Glad it made sense as Im very tired. 🙂

            • ReallyMGM

              It makes perfect sense to me. My beginners guides to science and the world were Cosmos and The Ascent of Man (the books, then the documentary series). There was nothing cold about Cosmos.

          • vicariousthrill

            Yup. Makes sense.

          • ReallyMGM

            I’ve never noticed patterns of numbers, but my friend does all the time. Calls and give me reports. I don’t doubt her, but since she first mentioned it I watched for it…never has happened for me, or I miss it. (I am a knitter, so I count and repeat patterns of numbers all the time.)

          • Eclipse-girl

            thank you for stating is a better way than I could.
            Humans look for patterns.
            Because the pattern may exist does not mean there is a correlation.

        • Liberated

          I never considered it logical, in fact I dismissed it as illogical, but I started reading stuff that made me feel that I’m not the only one .

          • Supper Powers

            I don’t even know how to respond to this kind of thing.

            Hope that works out for you.

            • Liberated

              That was condescending.

            • Supper Powers

              Yes. I know.

            • Liberated

              Well aren’t you an asshole.

            • Supper Powers

              That’s the first time I’ve ever seen someone here swear at another person. Interesting.

            • Liberated

              So, it’s OK for you to insult me . I think you asked for it.

            • Supper Powers

              Hmmm. Not really.

      • vicariousthrill

        Often. For me it’s always 1:23.

        • Liberated

          Yeah, exactly 1:23 is one of the big ones. I’m not makin shit up. It’s uncanny.

          • Supper Powers

            Especially because it happens twice a day!

            • Liberated

              Hey Mr. Super, how much money did you pay to discover Xenu threw your ass in a volcano?

            • Supper Powers

              Interesting thing to say to someone on this board.

      • PickAnotherID

        Never done that, but I keep thinking about that date…hmmmm…11/13/15

        11+13 = 24 hours in a day, 13+15 = 28 days in a lunar month, 24+28=52 weeks in a year.

        Strange.

        • Supper Powers

          *vomits*

        • Eclipse-girl

          coincidence.

      • Snippy_X

        It’s called confirmation bias.

        • Liberated

          I have no idea what that means.

          • Tony Ortega

            Look it up.

            • Liberated

              So, you’re responding for Snippy X. How odd.

            • Tony Ortega

              No, I’m responding to you. What you’re describing is confirmation bias, and instead of just saying you don’t know what that is, you might look it up and learn something interesting.

            • Sibs

              When do you sleep?!

              (I guess it’s been one heck of a crazy night.)

    • Supper Powers

      Don’t overthink their insanity. Glad to see you.

    • Eclipse-girl

      the european way of doing dates would be 13 – 11 – 15

      • outraged

        What about it being Friday the 13th?

        • Eclipse-girl

          Friday the 13th is as common as any other date for friday.

  • B4you

    There is a lot to clean up, and i bet that those yellow VM minions will show up somewhere at these places:

    • PickAnotherID

      If they’re smart (I know, I know) they’ll stay as far away from Paris as they can. I don’t believe the army, police, or ordinary citizens, and in any mood to put up with more religious fanatics right now.

      • B4you

        all they need is a photo op, they can do that!

        • PickAnotherID

          I’d love to see some pics of VM’s being tarred, feathered, and run out of town on a fence rail.

          • ReallyMGM

            Hopefully dumpsters will be filled with their boxes of “The Way to Happiness” pamphlets.

            • B4you

              and many broken index-fingers!

  • outraged

    Anyone else see a strange synchronicity going on here?:

    • Mymy88

      Other than I see three f***ed in the head men, nope.

    • B4you

      Yes! they are becoming as One!

      • outraged

        Travolta, Tommy and Dave are morphing into one buff slick puffy faced lie.

        • B4you

          You know! I think they could fit inside each other like this: F5

          • outraged

            hahaha. Yes!!! Little boxes on a hillside.
            And they all look just the same.

            • Supper Powers

              I want the pink one!

            • outraged

              I want the blue one!

            • Frodis73

              Which is the dr, the lawyer and business executive? ;-p

            • outraged

              more like the spawn the pawn and the yawn.

        • ReallyMGM

          Johnny needs to get out in the sun more or a better makeup artist. He looks creepy pale next to the other two.

    • Supper Powers

      No. It’s men in a cult who have receding hair lines at the time in life male humans start losing their hair on their heads.

    • Ben Franklin

      Yes, all three men earn a living through selling fantasy.

    • anoni81b4u

      Expensive suits?
      The tailor is making big $$

      • anoni81b4u

        forgot this

      • TrishRan

        Same plastic surgeon?

  • outraged
    • B4you

      I need a PANIC button!

      • Juicer77

        Don’t panic. That’s what they want.

        • B4you

          So i don’t need a PANIC button!

      • B4you

        Like this: F5

  • OOkpik

    Compassion to all who have suffered loss over the Paris bombings. 🙁

    • Juicer77

      (f5) Peace for Paris

  • PickAnotherID

    Just noticed this letter from the Clearwater City Attorney to the CWPD posted over on WWP yesterday by DarthXander:

    Email sent to all CPD officers:

    The Honorable Thomas E. Penick, Jr., Circuit
    Judge, issued a Permanent Injunction on July 21, 2001 involving members
    of the Church of Scientology and those persons “in actual concert or
    participation” with them. The Injunction also applied to the members of
    the Lisa McPherson Trust and those persons “in actual concert or
    participation” with them. In particular, the following members of the
    Lisa McPherson Trust were named in the Injunction: Jesse Prince, Grady
    Ward, Stacy Brooks, Jeff Jacobson, Patricia Greenway, Peter Alexander,
    Mark Bunker, Tony Bezazian, and Robert Minton. The Injunction is still
    in effect until further order of the Court.

    The Injunction contains diagrams of 10 Church
    of Scientology properties that are listed in Exhibit A-1, attached to
    the Injunction, that are color coded to depict those BLUE areas where
    the above-named members of the Lisa McPherson Trust and those acting “in
    actual concert or participation” with them are prohibited by paragraph 2
    of the Injunction from picketing, protesting, or demonstrating.
    Paragraph 2 of the Injunction also prohibits picketing, protesting, or
    demonstrating within 10 feet from the entrance or exit used on a daily
    basis at the 20 Church properties listed on Exhibit B, attached to the
    Injunction.

    Robert Minton, who formed the Lisa McPherson
    Trust, died some time ago. Moreover, except for Mark Bunker, the other
    members of the trust appear no longer to be present in Clearwater 14
    years after the Injunction was granted. However, the Church of
    Scientology has contacted CPD on numerous occasions, claiming that an
    individual named Alex Hageli, who has been in close proximity to Church
    property while exercising his First Amendment rights, is in violation of
    the Injunction because he is acting “in actual concert or
    participation” with Mark Bunker.

    UNTIL SUCH TIME AS THE CHURCH OF
    SCIENTOLOGY OBTAINS AN ORDER FROM THE COURT SPECIFICALLY FINDING THAT
    ALEX HAGELI IS SUBJECT TO THE INJUNCTION, CLEARWATER POLICE OFFICERS
    SHALL NOT IN ANY WAY INTERFER WITH MR. HAGELI’S RIGHT TO BE PRESENT ON
    THE PUBLICLY-OWNED SIDEWALKS NEAR CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY PROPERTY. THE
    COMMUNICATIONS CENTER AND CLEARWATER POLICE OFFICERS WILL IGNORE ANY
    REQUESTS BY REPRESENTATIVES OF THE CHURCH TO HAVE CLEARWATER POLICE
    OFFICERS TAKE A REPORT ON MR. HAGELI SOLELY BECAUSE MR. HAGELI IS PRESENT ON OR PROTESTING ON THE PUBLICLY-OWNED SIDEWALKS NEAR CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY PROPERTY. MOREOVER, CLEARWATER
    POLICE OFFICERS WILL NOT RESPOND TO REPORTS OF ANY OTHER PERSONS WHO
    ARE EXERCISING THEIR FIRST AMENDMENT RIGHTS ON PUBLICLY-OWNED SIDEWALKS
    NEAR CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY PROPERTY UNLESS THERE IS AN ALLEGATION THAT A
    CRIME IS BEING COMMITTED OR THE PERSON IS SPECIFICALLY NAMED IN THE
    INJUNCTION.

    • Juicer77

      YES!!!

    • Sibs

      Now will the police take it to heart? They know they’ll get in trouble now if they bring him in.

      • Juicer77

        All protesters should carry a copy of this just in case. Do you have a link to the original?

        • PickAnotherID

          Just added WWP link to the OP. Hopefully Darth with scan the original and post it to Scribd, or something.

          • Sibs

            Perfect!

      • PickAnotherID

        I’m hoping they start filing charges of filing false reports, and wasting CWPD resources, against the Flag idiots if they keep using the injunction to make harassment complaints against protestors.

      • The fact that they have to be formally told to leave him alone speaks for itself. There are other ways to harass a person, and these can be used instead.

        The problem that senior officers ought to be addressing is the influence the CofS exercises over the police force through it’s ability to legally employ off-duty officers to work for them.

        • TrishRan

          This practice so reminds me of the FLDS communities around Short Creek where the police are actual FLDS members, so when someone wants to flee, the police do not protect their constitutional rights and protect FLDS interests instead.

          • That’s scary – and quite inconsistent with their oath (which they presumably swore before God) – to protect those rights.

            • TrishRan

              FLDS is some scary shit.

            • I will defer to you on that subject – mercifully they don’t have any significant presence in the UK.

            • TrishRan

              They don’t have much presence outside a small portion of the US West, a small portion of Canada and a bit in Mexico. But what they do to people in their clutches is unconscionable.

    • Ella Raitch

      Woot woo!

    • B4you

      As someone on WWP noticed: Tony wrote about here:

      http://tonyortega.org/2015/11/14/jeffrey-augustine-just-a-friendly-reminder-scientology-prices-are-outrageous/

      Same text?
      ETA: Ha ha never mind… move on 🙂

      • PickAnotherID

        That’s today’s story, I had it up here before then. Heh! I “scooped” Tony! ;^))

    • Susan black

      I like that the last paragraph is shouted. And the last sentence is screamed.

  • Mike Duncan

    So where does all the money end up? In off shore bank accounts held by Miscavige and the other fucking ringleader criminals. Tax exempt, fucking right wing asshole crooks!

  • The Skorpion

    “Billions helping billions of people”. Hmmm…..that’s interesting since Scientology isn’t even recognized (or mentioned) in the breakdown of religions of Earth! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_religious_populations