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Guest post: 20 reasons the Church of Scientology is a cult and a fraud

Eric_LiebermanOne of the many things the Church of Scientology has done as a reaction to Alex Gibney’s documentary, Going Clear, is to post numerous letters it wrote to Gibney and HBO in the lead-up to the film’s release, as well as in its aftermath.

Collected at the website of its propaganda magazine, Freedom, the letters vary in their interest for us. But one of them is really something to behold. It’s a long exegesis by one of Scientology’s longest-serving and most notable attorneys, Eric M. Lieberman (pictured).

Lieberman’s letter is addressed to two of HBO’s attorneys, and was sent on March 19, six days after Going Clear debuted in theaters for its short run in New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco to qualify it for Oscar consideration. (A little birdie tells us that the movie is going to get another theater run in the Fall, so Scientology has that to look forward to — and you heard it here first.)

In his letter, Lieberman “strongly urges” HBO to drop its “sponsorship” of the film, and Lieberman points out that he’s successfully represented the church in court disputes over the past 40 years. (As legal threats go, this thing is not really very menacing.) Then, Lieberman says that HBO went wrong by basing its film on Lawrence Wright’s book Going Clear, which starts out on the wrong premise, according to Lieberman.

Mr. Wright’s book proceeds from a fundamentally biased and indefensible premise: that there is a “widespread assumption that Scientology is a cult and a fraud.” (Going Clear, pg. xii.)

What Lieberman leaves out of that quote is the first part of Wright’s actual sentence: “Obviously, there is an enduring appeal that survives the widespread assumption that Scientology is a cult and a fraud.” In other words, Wright was interested in what continues to draw some people into the group, and its bad reputation was in place long before Wright came along to pen his book.

But those niceties didn’t fit Lieberman’s mission, which was to convince HBO that Wright was hopelessly biased against an organization that was, in fact, a “bona fide world religion.”

For several thousand words, Lieberman then reviews the slings and arrows faced by Scientology over its history as it strove to be considered one of the world’s mainstream religions. Along the way, we get some real gems…

— “Scientology and Scientologists have been subject to the modern day equivalent of inquisitions, witch hunts, and heresy trials.”

— “Anti-Scientology efforts have been stirred up by invented charges and accusations from a few disaffected former Scientologists typically wishing to take over the church themselves or to create a counter-Scientology church.”

— “It is indisputable that Scientology is a widely recognized world religion and has been victorious in the face of 20th century persecution.”

Scientology victorious: That’s definitely the impression that church leader David Miscavige likes to give to his followers, and we have little doubt that Lieberman’s lengthy dissertation was written more for Miscavige’s benefit than anyone else’s.

And now, friend to the Underground Bunker and regular contributor Jeffrey Augustine has sent us his response to Lieberman’s letter. Augustine argues that not only is Scientology not a bona fide worldwide religion, but that there’s plenty of real evidence to back up the “assumption” Lieberman denied — that Scientology is in fact a cult and a fraud.

A note for those readers who will be surprised to see the c-word at the Underground Bunker. It’s true that your proprietor avoids the word, as we made very clear in a recent appearance at HuffPost Live. But in this case, it was Lieberman who made an issue of it, and we think Jeffrey gives it back to him very effectively.

So, without further ado, we’re turning over today’s post to Jeff…

 

20 reasons the Church of Scientology is a cult and a fraud

By Jeffrey Augustine

1. Cult: The hallmark of a cult is that one person — the cult leader — has all the power and complete control of the money. David Miscavige is a cult leader who has all the power and complete control of the money. This was true of founder L. Ron Hubbard when he was alive.

2. Cult: There are no internal checks and balances on David Miscavige’s power.

3. Fraud: David Miscavige was never elected by Scientologists to lead the Church of Scientology. Rather, Miscavige is a dictator who clawed his way to power in a series of purges.

4. Fraud: The form of Church governance represented to the IRS in Scientology’s 1023 application was a fraud. The Scientology boards and directors represented to the IRS are rubber stamps without any actual power.

5. Cult and Fraud: Scientology is a cult and a fraud because it lies to its own members and to the public about L. Ron Hubbard. See: 25 of the biggest lies told by L. Ron Hubbard and the Church of Scientology.

6. Cult and Fraud: The Church of Scientology runs an intelligence-gathering and Fair Game operation called the Office of Special Affairs (OSA). The purpose of OSA is to attack perceived Church enemies and engage in character assassination, smears, and to get people fired from their jobs. Because OSA is funded with tax exempt dollars it is a fraud upon the governments and taxpayers of all nations where OSA operates.

7. Fraud: The Sea Org is a fraud on its face because it does not actually exist. Per David Miscavige’s attorney Wallace Jefferson in his 2014 Writ of Mandamus, the Sea Org cannot have any members or volunteers and has no physical or legal existence:

“Plaintiff asserts that Mr. Miscavige exercised control because he leads the Sea Organization, a religious order within Scientology. But the ‘Sea Org’ is not a corporate entity; it has no physical or legal existence. It is not incorporated or established pursuant to legal formalities. It has no constitution, charter or bylaws, and no formal or informal ecclesiastical, corporate, or other management structure. It has no directors, officers, managing agents, or other executives; no employees, staff members, or volunteers; no income; no disbursements, no bank accounts or other assets; no liabilities; no stationery; no office, home, address, or telephone number. It does not create or maintain any financial, personnel, or other records. It can neither give nor receive orders because it has no one to either give or receive them or to carry them out. It cannot sue or be sued.”

8. Fraud: While David Miscavige’s attorney Wallace Jefferson states in the quote above that the Sea Org can have no volunteers, , the official Scientology.org website section “What is the Sea Org?” states that Sea Org members are volunteers:

As volunteers and members of a religious order, Sea Organization members work long hours and live communally with housing, meals, uniforms, medical and dental care, transport and all expenses associated with their duties provided by the Church. They also receive an allowance to purchase personal items, as all of their other expenses are fully covered by the Church.

The Sea Org is one of the most heinous frauds in the Church of Scientology, for even Sea Org members are lied to by the Church about the SO’s legal non-existence.

9. Fraud: Given that the Sea Org does not exist in any way whatsoever, the term “Sea Org” is just a phrase used to mislead, deceive, and con people into working for the Church of Scientology without being called employees, thus depriving these people to their rights to minimum wage, overtime, healthcare insurance, the right to sue their employer, or any other worker protections.

10. Fraud: Scientologists and Scientology attorneys lie to the public about Church membership and growth. Scientology does not have millions of members. No independent third party has ever been allowed to audit Scientology membership records. The declining membership is demonstrable in numerous empirical terms: To choose just one, shrinking attendance at Church events, calling for the renting of smaller venues. In Los Angeles, the downgrade from the LA Shrine Auditoroum (capacity 6,300) to the Kodak Center (capacity 3,332) is instructive.

11. Cult and Fraud: The Church of Scientology video records all auditing sessions. This is allegedly done for training purposes. However, the confidential contents of auditing sessions are routinely used by OSA to attack, slander, defame, and embarrass Scientologists who leave the Church and speak out against the abuses of Scientology.

12. Cult: The Church of Scientology teaches its members to lie when needed in order to protect the Church.

13. Cult: The Church of Scientology puts its own members through brutal interrogations called security checks, or “sec checks.”

14. Cult: The Church of Scientology breaks up families and friendships through its brutal policy of Disconnection. (A couple of recent examples — Sara Goldberg and Sylvia DeWall.)

15. Cult: The Church of Scientology indoctrinates and controls its own members through a program of isolation, thought-stopping, mind control, milieu control, and propaganda.

16. Fraud: In exchange for money, the Church of Scientology has long promised its members miraculous spiritual powers it cannot actually deliver.

17. Cult: The Church of Scientology makes its members sign an unconscionable contract which allows the Church to kidnap them and hold them against their will if they are deemed “Type III” (psychotic) by the Church. This “kidnap contract” was put in place after the negligent death of Scientologist Lisa McPherson.

18. Fraud: The Church of Scientology raises money for a David Miscavige slush fund called the International Association of Scientologists. Under IRS rules, IAS donations are “undesignated” and can be spent for anything Miscavige sees fit. IAS donations can fund Fair Game campaigns, lawyers, and private investigators. The fraud here is that IAS monies are not spent in the public benefit. To cement the IAS fraud, Scientology makes its members sign a contract stating that all donations to the IAS are nonrefundable.

19. Fraud: The Church of Scientology raises money from its members for the purchase of unneeded buildings it calls “Ideal Orgs.” These largely empty buildings are tax free real estate purchases.

20. Fraud: The Church of Scientology offers no financial transparency whatsoever to its members or the public. Indeed, it was the Underground Bunker that broke the story of the IRS records showing a Church book value of $1.5 billion.

 
Thanks for that list, Jeff. And we’re looking forward to seeing the additional reasons our readers will no doubt hit us with in the comments. — ed

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Elena Cardone, superhero for CCHR!

 
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Sam Joseph and Shane Leadbeater formed the band “Dianetics” recently in Australia. They’ve produced an album, and today posted this photo as they begin mailing out promotional material…

 
DianeticsBand

 
Curious about what they thought they were up to, we sent them this email…

“How long do you guys think you can go with this band name before Scientology’s attorneys start sending cease and desist letters? Just curious.”

And they sent this reply…

“We assume that the name ‘Dianetics’ is not patented, and also who would care enough about some small Australian band using a word that means a connection between the metaphysical relationship between the mind and the body. At the end of the day we’ll cross that bridge when we come to it. Right now we are just people making music that interests us and for our potential fans. Hopes that answers your query.”

Looks like someone could use an attorney.

 
From the Nashville Celebrity Centre, actual caption: “Dianetics Y’all”

 
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We started the Purif at Mace-Kingsley!

 
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May 17: Center for Inquiry-West, Los Angeles, 4773 Hollywood Blvd, Hollywood, 11 am (with Paulette Cooper)
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June 11: New York City (with Paulette Cooper)

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June 22/23: Toronto (with Paulette Cooper)

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July 12: Washington DC, Center for Inquiry

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on May 7, 2015 at 07:00

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Learn about Scientology with our numerous series with experts…

BLOGGING DIANETICS: We read Scientology’s founding text cover to cover with the help of LA attorney and former church member Vance Woodward

UP THE BRIDGE: Claire Headley and Bruce Hines train us as Scientologists

GETTING OUR ETHICS IN: Jefferson Hawkins explains Scientology’s system of justice

SCIENTOLOGY MYTHBUSTING: Historian Jon Atack discusses key Scientology concepts

PZ Myers reads L. Ron Hubbard’s “A History of Man” | Scientology’s Master Spies | Scientology’s Private Dancer
The mystery of the richest Scientologist and his wayward sons | Scientology’s shocking mistreatment of the mentally ill
The Underground Bunker’s Official Theme Song | The Underground Bunker FAQ

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Jason Beghe | Tom DeVocht | Sara Goldberg | Paul Haggis | Mark “Marty” Rathbun | Mike Rinder | Spanky Taylor | Hana Whitfield

 

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  • jeff

    This is two days late, but since Neil Gaiman attended the PEN Gala where an award was given to Charlie Hebdo, surely, he of all people should be standing up for free speech.

    • Sherbet

      Shout out to Jeff.

      • jeff

        Hey, I know you’re in Beantown and all, but no need to shout. How are you, Sherb?

        • Sherbet

          OK, OK, I’ll keep my voice down. Doing fine for an ol’ lady. You?

          • jeff

            I’m really kinda happy at the moment…taking the GREs in August, fixin’ to go to graduate school (yes, at my age).

            • Sherbet

              All right! My boss got his Master’s at age 70. You’re never too old. Carry on!

            • jeff

              Thankee kindly, ma’am.

            • The Dude

              My Father-in-law has offered to fund me to go back to school. I don’t know what to go for?
              I am going to take him up on the offer. I am just torn on the fact of, my love of history and my Father-in-law’s thinking that I would make a great lawyer. I have some credits from a LONG time ago. I just don’t know.

            • Sherbet

              My son majored in history, knowing he probably wouldn’t find a job he likes (doesn’t want to teach). He loves history and always did. Always had a nose in a book. So he went back for a Master’s in library science. He found his niche. If you love history and accept that it’s not exactly a career path, go for it.

            • The Dude

              My Wife majored in library science. Hated it. Archivist is her degree. She came to USA they would not recognize her degree. She worked in wal-mart. She worked as a bank teller. She has her own business now.

            • Sherbet

              That’s funny; my son is actually an archivist but couldn’t get a job doing it. Anyway, you have such personality, I can’t see you doing routine attorney work. Do what you love. How about hospitality?

            • The Dude

              That is what I do now. Chef is hard,sweaty,grunt work. I am sick of it. Even the admins work crazy hours. I want my life back someday. This job is killing me…. It was a bad day.
              I want to work like regular people.

            • Sherbet

              Do YOU want to be a lawyer?

            • The Dude

              I don’t know.
              I like to argue. Debate that is, not anger.

            • Sherbet

              You need some career counseling, so choose a school and go from there. You’ll find your way. You have the Bunker Seal of Approval.

            • The Dude

              I though a bit about Chemistry. I love science but my math is wanting. Old Dog, New Tricks?

            • Sherbet

              Don’t take anyone’s advice. Do what feels right. But career counseling would help. (Scientology’s Free Personality Test would NOT help.)

            • The Dude

              Amen! Sister Mother Most Reverend Mary of the Bunker. Love Ya. Thanks. I feel better already.
              Like I said. It was a bad day. Major Footbullet would be my nick-name for the day. Yeah. That bad.

            • Sherbet

              Go hug the Little Dude and Mrs. Dude.

            • Frodis73

              Sorry to hear you had such a bad day Dude. Hopefully tomorrow will be better for you. Hug the family!

            • Missionary Kid

              In any science, you’re gonna need math. There are some excellent online courses, among them, the Kahn Academy, as well as books. Isaac Asimov has some on mathematics, and one of them seems real basic, but he covered some topics better than a class I had in number theory, and he explained things better.

              It’s tough, but possibly taking some adult ed or even remedial city college courses can help. You might find that things you didn’t like in high school are possible to learn now because you’re paying better attention.

              I’m willing to bet that your math skills have improved with cooking because of the measuring and interpolation of cooking times that you’ve been doing in your head. You probably didn’t even think you were doing math.

            • The Dude

              I feel like someone just waved a cross over my head… Stop that Sherb!

            • The Dude

              LOL!

            • villagedianne

              As a veteran of many food server jobs, I agree. Chef work is just as you describe. It would make more sense for there to be two chefs, so each of them could work normal hours. But I guess that would cut into the profits.
              How about pre-Law with a minor in History?

            • Frodis73

              Oh wow. You are so freaking lucky!! How awesome of your father in law to offer you that gift. Tell him I said he is an amazing person! I’d sell my soul to go back and finish.

            • The Dude

              Yeah. We will discuss more in Brazil this summer.

            • Robert Hammond

              Find something you love. I went to law school, then took time out to work on a book. I decided to switch majors and ended up getting a Master of Fine Arts degree in Creative Writing. Now I teach screenwriting and develop TV projects. Bottom line, don’t just do something that others think you would be good at or that you think might lead to a good career. Spend time following your own passion and vision.

            • The Dude

              Thanks. I would love to do voice-overs for radio or tv. I have a voice for it. But that is a big gamble too. As a chef I make ok money and I love to cook. But after almost 28 years in this business I am getting burned-out.

            • Robert Hammond

              Congrats, Jeff. It’s never too late. The best is yet to come.

            • jeff

              Thanks.

  • The Dude

    “For those who believe in God, most of the big questions are answered. But for those of us who can’t readily accept the God formula, the big answers don’t remain stone-written. We adjust to new conditions and discoveries. We are pliable. Love need not be a command nor faith a dictum. I am my own god. We are here to unlearn the teachings of the church, state, and our educational system. We are here to drink beer. We are here to kill war. We are here to laugh at the odds and live our lives so well that Death will tremble to take us.”

    ― Charles Bukowski

    • Robert Hammond

      Ex-Scientologists can substitute the word LRH or Scientology for God in this quote ( in the first two uses, not the third one).

      • The Dude

        As a never-in, I cannot relate. But as a Ex-Catholic… Hell Yeah!

        • Robert Hammond

          I’m a never-in as well. Interesting, sometimes I wonder if there are more “never-ins” than exes in The Bunker. I’m still pretty new here and many of the people whom I assumed were exes were “never-in.” Curious as to how so many others are so interested in this group.

          • Missionary Kid

            One of the things that happens to people that end up here is that over time, there’s a lot that’s learned. Referring to the glossary at Xenu.net can be really helpful.

          • Sherbet

            I’d guess there definitely are more never-ins that exes in the Bunker. Maybe 2/3 nevers, 1/3 exes?

            • Missionary Kid

              I don’t know, but on certain of Tony’s posts, the exes come out of the woodwork and start posting.

            • Sherbet

              That’s very true. And in the past couple of years, the exes have been increasing, and that’s great. They’ve added so much in the way of actual experience.

            • The Dude

              THDNE is my favorite. I just love her. She has been very kind to me.

            • Missionary Kid

              THDNE is basically a very kind person, except when it comes to $cientology, and she’s entitled to her fierce challenges of it.

            • Sherbet

              She’s awesome, because she’s smart and funny and has a laser-sharp understanding of scientology, both from when she was in and now that she’s out. Nothing gets by her. She’ll never be fooled again.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m looking forward to the day that I can meet you, too.

            • Sherbet

              Thank you. You’re a sweetheart, my friend.

            • The Dude

              Pan says we might meet. I hope you will come along. Red wine is good for the blood. Raise a toast for a fallen “Bear-Shark”. Wadda-ya say?

            • Sherbet

              Hmm…not sure. Mr. Sherb thinks I’m a bit wacky to be spending so much time in the Bunker as it is. He’d probably not be too pleased about my meeting online friends in a bar. Anyway, you’re sweet to ask. And, definitely, I’d toast our Bear-Shark if I were there.

            • The Dude

              Aww.
              I do understand. I asked Mrs. Dude if she would go with me. And now she is worried I won’t come back. Like I will jump on a bus and sign a contract for a billion years.
              She watches one documentary and now she is an expert.

            • Sherbet

              The spouses don’t get it. But as long as they don’t get in our faces about our little, minor, tiny, inconsequential obsession with scientology, then it’s OK. 😀

            • The Dude

              She teases me now.
              Every time I complain about something enough lately.
              Her answer is “Maybe Scientology can help you with that?”.
              LOL! I love her! Pain-in-my-ass, that she is.
              But she is “My-Pain-in-the-ass”. And she is funny!

            • Sherbet

              Sounds like a sweet woman. A comedy act, right there in your house.

            • The Dude

              Sweet…. That is what everyone says. I know better! Ha!
              Yes. We have a good laugh every night. Little Dude has gotten a bit of our sarcasm.
              A Frankenstein of my own making. He is a clever little boy.

            • The Dude

              She gets my “tilted eyebrow look” a lot.

            • The Dude

              Ah yes! The fire in her makes me love her more. Strong women make the best friends.

            • Robert Hammond

              The force is strong in that one. Yes.

            • Robert Hammond

              Wow! I had somehow assumed it was the other way around, mostly exes. But you know what they say happens when you assume… You don’t have to say it.

              Anyhooo, nice to be among such fine company. Glad I found this place.

            • Sherbet

              It was just a guess. For the record, I’m a never-in, and the “church” has fascinated me for years.

            • Robert Hammond

              It is a fascinating subject. What’s not to like? Movie stars. Alien overlords. Crime. Corruption. Conspiracies. Intrigue. Mad scientists. Religious zealots with sailor costumes.

            • The Dude

              Yep.

          • The Dude

            One starts somewhere.
            The rabbit-hole gets deeper.
            One gets bored or interested in other issues, and leaves.
            Or you go really down. Read Ex’s stories. Ask them questions. “Counterfeit Dreams” by Jefferson Hawkins would be a great place to start. Amazing book.

            • Robert Hammond

              I’ve been reading about this for some time. Ready Madman or Messiah many years ago. Going Clear and A Piece of Blue Sky more recently. Watched tons of videos and interviews on YouTube. Steve Hassan’s Combating Cult Mind Control and many other related books on cults and thought reform. Lots more to learn. Quite a fascinating subject. I’ve had my share of a few cults and false BS (belief systems) in my own experience so I can relate to the exes.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m one of those who didn’t come from a cult, but a rigid fundamentalist background.

            • The Dude

              Seeker myself. Never found anything that wasn’t BS(Bull-Shit) from the get-go. Studied a lot on it. Zoroaster is the closest I can come to liking a deus.

            • Robert Hammond

              Long-time seeker myself as well. Closest I come to now is George Fox and early Quakers with their emphasis on the inward Light, equality, and peace. Not into any organized groups or rituals at all. We all have to find our own path in our own way the best we can with what we have within us. I just know that we don’t need to pay anybody or have someone up on a stage dish out their version of the truth. The truth is within us and all around us.

            • The Dude

              Truth. Anything we need we can find in ourselves. Gurus and charlatans are our roadblocks to true knowledge.

            • villagedianne

              Krishnamurti quote, too long to copy here, so here is the link:

              http://www.awakin.org/read/view.php?tid=354

    • Missionary Kid

      About 20 minutes ago, while reading the Bunker, I had the TV on, and tuned to CNN. Who came on for an ad for Freedom From Religion Foundation, but Ron Reagan. At the end, he described himself as a “lifelong atheist, not afraid of burning in hell.’

      • Mymy88

        Wait.. isn’t he the one that does a lot of being an announcer on some of those elite dog in show contests?

        • Missionary Kid

          I don’t know, but it’s the former President’s son, and he sure sounds like Ronald.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I was gonna say that’s his ballet dancing son.

            • Missionary Kid

              Yup, although he’s too old to be doing it now, I believe. He could be teaching?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Hah, Nancy still does it!

          • Mymy88

            Yeah, one of Reagan’s sons does / did that (announcer for dog in show). It must have been him. I think it was Westminsters.

      • Sherbet

        Nancy was not happy with her son’s atheism, but she consulted her astrologer, and he said it was OK.

        • Missionary Kid

          I wasn’t aware of that. I put astrologers in the same category as televangelists.

          • Sherbet

            I made that up to be funny.

            • Missionary Kid

              I took it seriously. Thanks for correcting me. I’m still wondering what Nancy’s thoughts were on Ron’s atheism, or was that made up, too?

            • Sherbet

              I made up the whole thing, except that Nancy is Ron’s mother. //hanging my head in shame//

            • Missionary Kid

              No shame if you reveal the truth. ((Hugs))

            • Sherbet

              Hugging back!

            • jeff

              Nancy definitely had an astrologer, though.

        • The Dude

          Funny. I got it!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Onde você conheceu sua esposa no Brasil? Eu morava no Rio por muitos anos.

      • The Dude

        Eu a conheci aqui. Ela é do oeste. Perto Bolívia. Grande cidade. Rodeado por país vaca. Ela era divorciada.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Eu morava em um bairro de classe média no Rio Lago do Machado.

          • The Dude

            Subúrbio de Campo Grande. Mas, neste verão que viajar para Londrina, Paraná. Minas Garias, e São Palo.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Eu sei onde é.

  • ComeToPresentTime

    I think those ladies from the Nashville CC photo are just fans of the band.

    • CK

      Woman on the right. “We be studyin’ LRH, sugga.”

  • PRenaud

    Woo hoo… Going Clear hiting Canadian press finaly.

  • Enturbulated Masterbator

    Maybe reported already but I was in Texas last night and on Bravo TV there was a commercial for RolshouseLaw.com advertising for representation against Narconon. Listed deceitful marketing, underqualified staff, improper treatment, unsafe conditions and DEATH. Hopefully this gravy train for Boss Hogg is on it’s last tracks.

    • Juicer77

      That reminds me, I need to dig thru NarCONon lawsuit docs to find the perfect document to accompany yet another 13909 complaint, specifically about Narconon’s fraudulent advertising… Off to Scribd I go!

  • NOLAGirl (Stephanie)

    Bunker got me ROFL right now. 🙂 Will be back with you soon. Hope everyone is well. Miss you!!

    • Juicer77

      Hugs NOLA!

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    L. Ron Hubbard’s “Grand Tour” process in the Hubbard book, “Creation of Human Ability” is fraud.

    No one flies around the solar system out of their body.

    That is hallucination.

    Fraud, because NO ONE FLIES!

    No soul leaves their body due to Hubbard’s scientology procedures.

    People only hallucinate.

    If Lieberman can prove the soul leaves the body, legally, then fine.

    Otherwise Lieberman, that’s fraud!

    Just because Scientology can hide in court doesn’t let Scientology hide in public!

    The public knows no one in Scientology ever flies out of their bodies, no proof, it’s subjective, it’s hallucination.

    Nor does anyone get “Super Powers” like are being delivered at the Flag (Superpower) Building at Clearwater.

    That to me is the biggest fraud!

    Scientology’s selling Peter Pan flying abilities and Lieberman likely will never argue what the public sees and talks about.

    “Operating Thetan” definition in the Tech Dictionary, just screams fraud.

    And Scientology’s “Bridge to Total Freedom” has 7 “OT” Operating Thetan levels. That sure sounds like a Scientologist is supposed to become like it says in the Tech Dictionary.

    But no one does.

    That’s fraud!

    • Techie

      I was thinking about that, Chuck, the rubes who do the Survival Rundown are invited to defraud themselves. For example, Book and Bottle (Opening Procedure by Duplication). The poor dupe is asked over and over to state the temperature of a bottle, the weight etc. There is no way for him to actually know, but he has to give an answer. So he guesses, but states the guess as an answer. Over and over for hours on end. At first he knows it is a guess, later he thinks he really can answer or loses the ability to care. Either way, he is one step further away from truth and one step closer to self-delusion. The same thing happens when he talks to his auditor about his “past lives”. At first he is not sure it really happened. Then he states it more and more confidently. Finally he walks out of session smiling and confident that he really can invent a truth out of thin air, and have it be accepted by all as real truth. Solipsism taken to the ultimate degree. The higher he goes on the Grade Chart the more unbelievable are the statements he is asked to state as truths. The ultimate examples are the perceptics drills on the “Super Power” rundown. The shill is asked to sense things like the saline content of cells. He can’t. No one can. So he guesses and gets enough guesses right to prop up some sort of confirmation bias, heads to the examiner and lies. Again. To himself and everyone around him. With gushing enthusiasm and a real sense of accomplishment. Nobody defrauds a Scientologist more than he defrauds himself. The game is rigged that way, Like “The Emperor’s New Clothes” on steroids with armed riflemen lining the crowd to ensure their enthusiasm.

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        They learn how to delude themselves. Ability Gained: I now know how to delude myself and think nothing of it, it’s great!

  • Juicer77

    I just pre-ordered Miss Lovely on Amazon and whaddya know, it came up #1 Bestseller ABOVE GOING CLEAR on the rankings. Hmmm…. We may have a hit on our hands, folks.

    • openflyonthewall

      first comes best-seller then comes screenplay!

      • Juicer77

        I thought of an actress to play Paulette — Rosamund Pike!

        • CK

          Someone American!

          • Juicer77

            If half the cast of the Walking Dead can do it, so can she! 🙂

          • Sherbet

            Thank you, Rush Limbaugh.

            • CK

              Didn’t mean in THAT sense; I only say it because Paulette Cooper is American–or at least grew up in the U.S.

            • Sherbet

              Oh, I misunderstood and overreacted. But Rosamund Pike played an American woman in Gone Girl. Her accent didn’t slip a bit. So she could do it.

              The other night I suggested Natalie Portman, going by Paulette’s looks alone.

          • Missionary Kid

            She plays a great American. Another person who I could swear grew up in Southern California instead of South Africa because of the way she speaks is Charlize Theron.

            • Sherbet

              Toni Collette plays American very well, too. And I watched Titanic the first time not knowing Kate Winslet is a British actress. They get the Hugh Laurie Award for American Accents.

              (I made that up, too.)

            • CK

              Loved Toni Collette in “Little Miss Sunshine,” but will always remember her fondly as Muriel Heslop.

            • Sherbet

              I had to look that up. Never saw it. Good?

            • CK

              “Muriel’s Wedding,” an Australian film from 20 years ago. Loved it–even though I’m a straight male and it’s about a young Ozzie woman wanting to find her ideal husband.

            • Sherbet

              I put it on my list of movies to watch sometime. Thank you.

            • Baby

              One of my favorite movies CK.. Wow

            • Missionary Kid

              I think it’s more difficult for an American to play a Brit or Aussie than vice versa. I believe there’s a lot more variation in accents in different different regions in those countries than in America.

            • Sherbet

              You’re probably right.

            • Missionary Kid

              When I was in Great Britain, about 45 years ago, every time I traveled about 50 miles, i’d have to adjust my way of listening, because the accents would be so different. Finally, I was on the island of Skye, and I was walking behind some locals, and while I could hear them perfectly well, I absolutely couldn’t understand them. I finally realized they were speaking Gaelic.

            • Sherbet

              Husband I were in London years ago, and a young man at a bus “queue” started chatting with us. I figured by his accent that he was from the north, Liverpool, Manchester, that area. Although we stood with the man for a few minutes, neither of us understood anything he said. We just nodded and smiled in a touristy way.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m used to odd accents. I had a Colonial accent when I was a little kid, from starting school in Hong Kong. Of course, I heard a lot better then. I just got hearing aids, so I’m understanding people again.

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks but no thanks. I have enough trouble with English. If I were to try another language, it’d probably be Swedish. 😀

              I don’t mind picking up a few phrases, though.

            • Robert Eckert

              Have you listened to this one?

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Dfa4fOEY

            • Missionary Kid
            • Graham

              Reminds me of walking down the street in Hanley, Stoke-on-Trent and overhearing a guy talking about sex. Then I realised that in the Potteries dialect sex is just the number between five and seven: “I get up at sex each morning and don’t get home while sex in the evening”.

              Of course for the British upper classes ‘sex’ is what their servants store their coal in.

        • openflyonthewall

          she’s a hottie but I don’t know her work. Have been meaning to check out gone girl

          • Eclipse-girl

            do the right thing and read Gillian Flynn’s novel first.
            The movie is good and does justice to the novel.
            The novel is better.

            • openflyonthewall

              thnx for the tip!

        • Robert Hammond

          Nicole Kidman?

          • Missionary Kid

            She’d be great, but I imagine that she’d get totally disconnected from the kids she and Tom adopted.

          • villagedianne

            Too old. Unless they had a younger and an older actress to portray Cooper at different ages.

      • Mymy88

        Winning Oscars i.n.g.

    • Mymy88

      Awesome!

    • Dr. Hunky Jimpjorps

      To be clear, #1 in the Scientology category. It’s in the 2,000s overall and #74 in the Religion category, both extremely healthy for a niche book like this.

      • Juicer77

        Thanks for the clarification. Yes, it’s a good achievement.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I just pre-ordered the kindle version.. But I want a hard copy too.. I need something for Tony to sign when I stand in line at one of those book signings.. I’m such a groupie..

      • Juicer77

        Me too 😉

      • Sherbet

        Maybe Tony can send out autographed bookMARKS for us unfortunate souls with no book signings to attend. (Playing the poor me card)

        • Juicer77

          (psst check your replies from earlier)

          • Sherbet

            Give me a hint where to start.

            • Juicer77

              Sorry still trying to find you on a really old thread… gimme a minute 🙂

        • sugarplumfairy

          I’ll get one signed for you and mail it to you, Sherb.. I promised NOLA, too.. We can work out the logistics..

          • Sherbet

            People keep offering, and I keep saying, No, no, I don’t want to bother you…but you know? I may actually take someone up on their offer. Everyone is so nice.

            • sugarplumfairy

              You should!

            • aquaclara

              Pssst. New York. You can do it.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        I want a hard copy also for them to both sign May 22. I wonder if they will have them for sale on their book tour.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      DOX for proof! *refresh*

      • Sherbet

        Tony must be crazy happy, just to see his creation right there on the Amazon page.

  • openflyonthewall

    The Brick Cult has a nice ring to it don’t you think?

  • Cameo Head

    We started the Purif at Mace-Kingsley!

    • Mymy88

      Red rum… Red rum… That is ‘The Shinning’, right? lol

      • Cameo Head

        Yup. Come play with us forever and ever. Has kind of a Scientology-ish ring to it.

        • Mymy88

          Yup, you can play with us for ever, or you can checkout anytime you want.. and I’m sure everybody knows the rest lol.

      • Cameo Head

        “But I already bought 5 sets of The Basics!”

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WDpipB4yehk

        • Mymy88

          LOLOLOLOLOL Daddy’s hommme.

  • Evening all.

    Just a quick reminder that the folk behind the documentary project, Growing Up Scientology: From Cradle to Slave, are still looking for backers, and they are running out of time. If you can spare a few dollars, please consider back them. They have stories to tell that people need to hear. Please spread the word on your networks.

    http://kck.st/1FHl8Cc

  • scientology becoming more and more of the vernacular:

    this is from a review of the new Fox series ‘Wayward Pines’ {WSJ review and all]

    “A woman gets stabbed with a giant shard of glass, people run for their lives and there is a public execution as gruesome as any witch trial and punishment. The self-administered thought control among the chipper residents of this Hallmark-movie-style town is like something out of a documentary about Scientology.”

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/wayward-pines-review-stopover-in-a-scary-town-1431037522

    • Mymy88

      Ha ha ha – that’s GREAT!

    • Sherbet

      Scientology is going to have to change their name to get away from the bad vibes. Something positive and sensitive, like “Caringology” or “Wholesomeology.”

      • Mymy88

        Wally World.

        • Sherbet

          Yes, that will fool people. Headed up by the big-hearted Uncle Dave, pal to all kiddies and parents.

        • funnily enough see my latest post above…..

          • Sherbet

            Coincidence.

          • Mymy88

            Doo doo doo doo (Twilight Zone) lol

      • Sid

        They are already trying that with some of their Narconons and other front groups.

        • Sherbet

          Very true. Some narconons have touchy-feely “we care about you” type names.

      • lmnop

        HA! HA! HILARIOUS!!

      • Verve

        YSCOHBology?

    • Missionary Kid

      Damn, that’s funny. It’s a measure of the sea change in public perception of $cientology. The science fiction writer, C.M. Kornbluth described such a change in The Marching Morons.

  • Frodis73
    • Mymy88

      Ahhh! Why did you do that Frodis73? I have been saving that one for soooo long, waiting for the just right opportunity to post it. You ruined it for me, waaaaa.

      • Frodis73

        Seriously? Lol. It’s over a year old and I found it via a random story about the oh so wonderful Sheriff Asshole from AZ and guns. I had to click it because I assumed it was a mix up, but nope!

        • Mymy88

          I found it randomly too and I thought, okay, I’m going to be able to use that, but I never was, oh well. I guess it was not mean to be lol.

      • Frodis73

        Do forgive me my dear!

        • Mymy88

          … kidding 🙂

        • Mymy88

          Actually, I can’t believe it took as long as it did, before someone else noticed that article lol.

    • Robert Eckert

      “The condition of the squirrel wasn’t reported.”

  • The Griswold’s are back!… apparently this opens the same day as Cruise’s MI5

    https://youtu.be/ScMOyURq9os

    • Mymy88

      Okay, that is so weird. I just posted about Wally World about not even 5 minutes before you posted this. Oh! What do sciens call that? Not synchronicity… Don’t they have a word for that? Oh, they say they can read minds? I don’t know.

      • yeah, and I posted my reply to that reply to this reply before you replied to this reply

        • Sarah James

          Lol

        • Mymy88

          um.. huh? You posted your reply, to that reply, to your reply before I replied to my reply? Maybe we should just let it drop. lol

    • Frodis73

      Looks a heck of a lot better than MI5! Love the kid saying: this some bs right here! Lol.

  • Mymy88

    Oh my gosh! Look what I just found while I was looking for something else! I’m sorry if it’s already been posted. Oh my gosh. Sweeeeeet!

    • Sherbet

      Swoon.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Ahem, THIS is why you can’t meet bunkerites and have nice things like signed copies of Ms Lovely. 😉

        • Baby

          Hahahahhahaha

  • worstcultever

    Re KULTS generally: among the podcasts I listen to during my rat race commute is Jonathan Goldstein’s “Wiretap” which often has thoughtful/funny bits, Jewish Canadian style .. anyway the last part of this week’s episode (“Bad Thoughts”) is a guy talking at some length about being sucked into the Moonies and subsequently deprogrammed .. of course as it went on I thought more and more of Sci .. and if I were more astute I’d have known before the end credits that it was Steve Hassan .. anyway he was so matter-of-fact about getting sucked in, like as normal as eating an apple .. also his father deserves a medal .. anyway, loved it, free on itunes in case anybody’s interested in hearing it

    (& sorry if repeated information)

  • Sherbet

    Yawning. Goodnight, Bunker.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Sweet dreams, Sherb!

    • Missionary Kid

      Sweet dreams.

  • Jenny Griffith
    • CK

      Good on Stephen Colbert! What a mensch. Better than spending thousands “auditing” and holding tin cans and being force-fed Space Age Xenu bullshit.

  • obligatory late night kitteh gif

    http://i.imgur.com/uYcUDp6.gif

    • CK

      *meow*

    • …. and something a little different

      http://i.imgur.com/6JCAfCg.gif

      • daytoncapri

        Awesome. Of course, I prefer to think that the cobras figured out that they have no issue with the sleeping baby, and perhaps even guarding it.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    probably posted earlier but here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-LoXdTlwuqE

  • on a side note I have a friend of mine going to an American air base this weekend to have a look at a car and he’s been invited to do some shopping at their Base supermarket which is supposedly 100% American goods [most not available in the UK]… knowing I lived in NY for a few years he asked me for suggestions of what to buy… I came up blank as just about 95% of my time there I ate out… any suggestions of what he should buy? [he’s married with 2 kids aged 10 and 12]

    • aquaclara

      Hershey”s chocolate. Any fun toys and snacks for the kids. They’ll like seeing something that looks different from home.

      • another way of looking at it is what to Americans miss when they’re overseas.

        from an Englishman’s perspective there are the hardy annuals of Branston Pickle, Marmite, Digestive biscuits, Heinz baked beans, Worcester Sauce, Heinz salad cream, Horlicks, marmalade, crumpets, and so on

        • Enturbulated Masterbator

          Corn chips, iced tea bags, grapefruit soda, Planter’s peanuts, Ding Dongs!!

        • Graham

          Twiglets, mince pies, Xmas pud.

        • Innoculated

          proper cup of tea, sticky toffee pud…

    • Robert Hammond

      Famous Amos Chocolate Chip Cookies. Frito’s Corn Chips. See’s Coffee. A copy of Going Clear.

  • openflyonthewall

    I have it on good authority that the heat of the meat is directly proportional to the angle of the dangle.

    That is all
    Good night

    • Super Power Wogsie

      lolol….eeeeer okay???

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Hi! Great to see you!

        • Super Power Wogsie

          (((hugs)))

      • openflyonthewall

        Hey I know you! Where the heck you been? and I don’t wanna hear no school yackity shmackity either

        • Super Power Wogsie

          Internship … And got into clash with some posters here that pissed me off. That’s all. No big deal. : )

          • brundleflyonthewall

            oohh, tell me what happened!

            • Super Power Wogsie

              Go to the May 3rd article. It’s all there and it happened at night so you don’t have to scroll down that far.

            • brundleflyonthewall

              mmm

    • The Dude

      And the crux of the Biscuit is the apostrophe.

      • Tao of Lepton

        And nerf chandeliers

    • Mymy88

    • Mockingbird

      Wow , I thought only old guys like me have ever heard that .

  • Super Power Wogsie

    Pre-ordered my copy of The Unbreakable Miss Lovely : )

    • Super Power Wogsie

      Late night Kitteh photo – He thinks he’s a dog now. night.

      • CK

        There’s a funny photo of a cat standing on his hind legs in overalls in a snowbank. Old meme, yes, but adorable.

        https://www.pinterest.com/pin/375769162631175692/

        • Mymy88

          That is very cute! awww

      • Anonymous Confused Person

        Squeeee!

        • Baby

          absolutely darling.. so stinkin cute

      • ReallyMGM

        Too damn cute!!!

        • Super Power Wogsie

          It really is. If I knew how to post the videos from my sis’s FB of them playfighting to the Bunker, I totally would.

    • CherryPitz

      Me too!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Me too!

  • Tao of Lepton

    Scientology is worse than the global warming deniers in the Tea Party, except for the fact that one of them might get elected president. God forbid.

    • CK

      Probably the only thing worse than $cientology is radical Islam. I brought this up a few nights ago on another thread, but give $cientology some credit for not hijacking any planes, beheading anyone or blowing up a bus.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        They’ve murdered more people than we’ll ever know!

        • CK

          Definitely not giving Co$ a pass in that regard–LMT, the Hole, Sea Org, on and on–but regarding the terrorism bit, they’re safe. For now.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Are you kidding, CK. They’ve practiced similar behavior and allowed to skate. Too many strange suicides, many actually missing. Their terror just takes on a different means.

            • CK

              All internal and still pretty bad, but fortunately, the general populace has been largely unaffected, safe for a few exceptions and horrible litigation and character assassination on the part of Co$ of its critics.

          • Frodis73

            Trust me, if they were bigger and more powerful I honestly believe they’d be just as bad as radical Islam. If you read LRH they are basically a master race cult. Jeff Augustine has a great take down of the relevant writings.
            http://scientologymoneyproject.com/2015/02/02/the-horriying-real-secret-of-scientology/

            • Mymy88

              Me too!

            • Mockingbird

              I know Hubbard modeled a tremendous amount of his doctrine on Hitler’s . He wanted to repeat Hitler’s “successful” actions . I am convinced if he ever got his “safe base” i.e. control of a country , he would have committed genocide .

              Try Hubbard and Hitler .
              http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/03/hubbard-and-hitler.html?m=1

      • Robert Eckert

        If they had a billion and a half followers, Xenu only knows what horrors the {Church} of Scientology would perpetrate. Relative to their small size and short history, their corpse count is quite impressive.

      • Mockingbird

        Uh , to put things in perspective the genocides of Native Americans if you include certain models and concepts some sociologists consider is from 80 – 120 million people and we still have mass starvation and income inequality worldwide and slavery for millions and the US in a continuous war economy and bombing people endlessly and…
        I think when we are immersed in Scientology or anti Scientology it gets easy to forget the tiny magnitude it has relative to the entire immense world .This is quite important to me – vitally .

        But in the bigger picture it is barely a blip to our species .

        http://www.nightslantern.ca/nativeholocaust.htm

        • CK

          The Indian genocide was horrible and their history is essential learning for every American student, but I think 120 million is a bit high. Tens of millions? Yeah. But 80 to 120 seems high.

          • Libertylover

            Little is taught or known here, as far as I can see, in ref to Native Americans. From what I have read there were well over a 100 million living here and the Vikings left finding them too numerous and fierce. Many died, some say 80% or more, in a mass pandemic making it possible for later colonization from Europe.

            • Missionary Kid

              I believe that the pandemic was caused by the later wave of Europeans, not from the Vikings.

            • Libertylover

              I don’t think Vikings caused it I think the initial Europeans brought the disease. Estimates by scholars prior to 1492 used to be a much smaller number. More recent estimates, by scholars, are in 50 to 110 million range, much higher than the 10 million thought to have lived here in earlier estimates. No one really knows, it’s hotly debated. Colonization didn’t really start for another 100 years or more after Columbus.

            • Robert Eckert

              There was a lot of contact before the earnest colonization efforts. Squanto, who greeted the Mayflower, had been taken to England and then brought back home, by some people we know virtually nothing about. He was one of several from his tribe who made the trip– but the only one who didn’t die from whatever they caught in England and spread to the locals, whose population crashed dramatically.

          • Robert Eckert

            That figure is probably right for the entirety of both North and South American continents, with the majority being in Mexico and Peru where agriculture was intensive.

          • Mockingbird

            The number is VERY disputed .I have seen a few articles that put the number in that range .Some contend that 80 – 90% were killed by plague .Buy even a “mere” 10 – 20 million is an astonishing and utterly horrifying number .

            Along with slavery and treating women as chattel and the exploitation of poor people the reality of the founding of the United States is built on inhuman brutality and quite different from the version we are taught in school . I think greater honesty about our past can better prepare us for facing who we are .

            We are brought up with an unrealistic image of our country and for some our selves as pure good . Nobody and no country is perfect .

            I think greater honesty about many issues can make the Scientologys of the world less capable of exploiting people .

  • First Last

    REPOST – Original by Room 101(Nick Lister) • 4 hours ago

    Everyone should show Jan Eastgate how social media really works 🙂
    https://www.facebook.com/pages/JAN-EASTGATE/522249251160797

    • Sid

      Make sure to get screen shots. They’ll take it down soon enough.

    • Graham

      STIGMATIZING LABELS EASY…. BRUTAL DEPERSONALIZING TREATMENTS AND DEADENING MIND ALTERING [For ‘drugs’ read TRs] THOUSANDS NEEDLESSLY FALL INTO THEIR COERCIVE SYSTEM EVERY DAY ALL OVER THE WORLD. IT IS A SYSTEM THAT EXEMPLIFIES HUMAN RIGHTS ABUSE.

      Gosh Jan, you could almost be describing Scientology.

  • Reasons to love British politics…. this just popped up on TV [there was a General Election in the UK today]…. every candidate has to be named…..

    “Howling Roy Hope the Official Monster Raving Looney Party 72 votes (white suit), Lord Toby Juggs Centre Party of Great Britiain 50 votes (Top Hat) [Uxbridge seat]”….. and yes, that’s Boris Johnson (he won with a 12 thousand majority) on the far left.

    you gotta love the Brits!

    pic

    • …. and this is where it all started

      https://youtu.be/31FFTx6AKmU

    • Mockingbird

      WTF ?

      • good old democracy at work

      • Libertylover

        Anyone can run if you pay a deposit. If you don’t get a certain small percent you lose your deposit. I grew up there, it used to be a small amount something like 500 pounds. Must be more now.

        • Libertylover

          Election can be called by majority party at anytime within a set limit and usually run a few months. Nothing like the grind of 2 or three years you get here.

          • Graham

            The UK now has a ‘fixed term’ parliament of 5 years. The previous government started out as an experiment in coalition (Conservative + LibDem) so in order to give it a greater chance of succeeding they passed a new law which introduced this fixed term, to make it virtually impossible to call an election ‘early’.

        • Mockingbird

          People probably run for a gag .

    • … and here’s Ed Milliband, leader of the Labour Party shaking hands with another Monster Raving Looney Party member…. he lost big time! (although he won his local seat)

  • The Dude

    Why does your family know how to push your buttons?
    Because they installed them.
    -The Dude
    G’Night! (Dropped the mic)

    • CK

      You’re definitely into the whole brevity thing.

    • The Dude

      Mine. Not from the movie.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Never a true statement. My Mom always asks,’Why don’t you ever come visit?’ I say,” It’s because I can’t get Delta to land in the from yard while I run in!”

  • I Like Ham

    Elena Cardone is smokin’ hot. She can supress my person anytime she wants. Meow!

    • Mockingbird

      She looks good in the events all dolled up BUT in the YouTube videos she does not look as good and listen to what she says .

    • It’s like Howdy is still here XD

  • just posted on the net ….. if you’re not a fan of Justin Bieber you’ll like this

    • Frodis73

      That just made my night.

    • Robert Eckert

      You’re too good to us.

    • 1subgenius

      He actually went up a couple points in my low estimation of him with this.
      (edit: unless that’s a Scientologist.)

      • well, yes, kinda… but the johnson grab sort of nullifies any brownie points

        • 1subgenius

          Why?
          (Just rhetorical)
          So this just hit the streets? Should be rather big by tomorrow.
          And I don’t mean his johnson.

          • Cameo Head

            cough chortle snort

            How nice for him that for once the dick jokes won’t be about him personally.

  • SexyNinjaMonkey

    Kinda wishing i still lived in Sydney or at least lived closer than i do. https://www.facebook.com/events/574659902636434/

  • Dave Reams

    I agree wholeheartedly with Lieberman!
    “… Scientologists have been subject to the modern day equivalent of inquisitions, witch hunts, and heresy trials.”

    • Mockingbird

      No one expects… the Spanish Inquisition !

      • Dave Reams

        Norman Starkey: Oh COB, Tommy Davis here just said that you were a pus filled cyst on LRH’s penis
        Tommy: Uhhhhhh … That’s right! You are the cockpit of the vessel which delivers Ron’s aged golden tech into the bowels of Hollywood.

    • 0tessa

      People who compare critique on the Cult of Scientology with ‘the inquisition, witch hunts and/or heresy trials’ don’t know anything about the inquisition, witch hunts and/or heresy trials. They have no idea what they are talking about. It is a bloody shame!

    • CK

      Grateful for his videos and for sharing his time spent in this horrible cult. That goes for every poster here who has blown.

    • ReallyMGM

      Chris is a brilliant speaker with a gift for explaining Scientology. I bet he was killer at selling classes! Glad he is out!

      • Just finished watching it. Must see for anyone interested in the subject.

  • Sarah James

    Bert Leahy just posted a Fox News commercial for a Law firm going after NarCONon. Fake drug rehab is getting the attention it deserves. Hope Captain ” let him die Miscavige gets deposed.

  • Free Minds, Free Hearts

    Question for Tony – will you have hard copy books available for sale and signing on your tour, or do we need to get the book beforehand and bring it? I am thinking of May 22.

    • Mockingbird

      Great question !

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Has been asked and answered a thousand comments or so ago. He will have a limited number available at the signing. First come, first served. Might be best to purchase ahead of time. Bird in the hand…

  • Mockingbird

    Hey , I just looked at a link on Facebook and saw a Scientology ad and realized I am seeing several of these ads almost every day – is this going on for everyone ? Are they spending money to impress whales or to actually get new people in ?

    • ReallyMGM

      A friend got one yesterday from CCHR (think that is it). Even thought she knew it was random ad, she blew a gasket. Lets just say this ad from them railing against meds came at exactly the wrong time for her. Thank God for her huge network of friends/family that support her. The discussion was as long and heated about Scientology as anything I have ever seen on the Bunker! (The Bunker was mentioned!) What I can report about this very long discussion is the crap about Scientology has spread. (Yah!) As Tori says, “Tick, tock”

  • Commodore H. McCringleberry

    Cool story!!-

    I’ve hired a new technician, (actually a guy we worked with at another company way back before three good friends and I founded McCringleCorp.), and he’s undergoing his six month Padawanship, learning to live by the company motto- “Figure it out”. This morning, I had him take my laptop running Windows 8.1 that I’ve modified all to hell to work just like Win7 without using legacy BIOS settings, blahblahblah, and had him install an old copy of Grand Theft Auto: San Andreas and have it work properly. It took him awhile, but he did a good job, so I played GTA: San Andreas most of the afternoon and evening like it was 2005. Playing the game reminded me of a cult in the story called the Epsilon Project, which is clearly based on the Co$. Haha. They have 9 “paradigms” which line up with the dynamics, and analogous versions of regging, disconnection, and a bunch more. I found a GTA wikia site that has a listing for this fictitious cult and it lines up strikingly about 80% with our real life friends. Check it out:

    http://gta.wikia.com/Epsilon_Program_in_HD_Universe

    Their own founder describes it as “a fellowship of like minded adults that tithe money in exchange for salvation and merit badges”.

    Some of the tenets of the religion are:
    – We will be clear thinking, independent minded, and do exactly as we are told.
    – We practice science by not doubting.
    – We will practice kindness and mercy by a relentless assault on the insavables.
    – We will be open minded to all new experiences except those that are against teachings.

    The parodies are officially everywhere.

    • Victoria Pandora

      I have never played GTA, but I saw a couple of vids where people joined that cult in game.
      At every turn they had to give them more money, for no good reason at all. It was just part of the “sacrament”.
      I hear GTA is supposed to be stream able soon.
      I am getting VERY tempted to check it out.
      I have no doubt that cult is based on $cn.

      • Are_sics

        Reminds me of this classic… if I can be forgiven for reposting:
        https://youtu.be/GqE89qKsYSg

      • Robert Eckert

        SPOILER: if you keep going along with it, eventually you are asked to drive a car whose trunk is stuffed with millions of dollars to the airport so the leader can leave the country with it; you are promised a reward, and if you complete this mission you are given a rusted-out tractor, which is not even unique. However, if you just drive off with the car and the millions of dollars…

  • JB

    LOL, the picture of Lieberman, it looks like he’s crying behind his smile!

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Friday the 8th of May
    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,
    Removals for yesterday: Below average with Sac & Tampa sharing the honors.
    Boston keeps spamming, this is turning into a pissing contest, the best way to win
    this one is to keep hammering CL about the blatant spams (Up to date as at the 8th
    at 430am) : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2533524
    How about informing some news outlet, anybody out there with the right connections?

    RedX tips ( updated & now including copy/paste): https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-120#post-2533632
    Flag co$ lies : https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CAN’T BE ENFORCED.
    DON’T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    F5…Big Ben enhanced by Bob Kåre for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15778968643/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Pierrot

      Is co$ in Albuquerque shrinking, have they moved, do they have a new address?
      I need to know:
      http://albuquerque.craigslist.org/rts/5014544119.html

      • Juicer77

        They moved recently, I’m guessing this is the former address… I can’t find anything on the new address. Will keep looking.

    • Helen Van Patterson Patton

      Hi Pierrot–I confess. I haven’t been red-xing as much this summer. I suspect that red-xing will pick up as the weather cools down and folks are more inclined toward indoor activity. I hear (and totally understand) your frustration and wanted you to know that your diligence is very much appreciated. I don’t think it’s a stretch to say that the red-x team is saving lives. So, Thank you! and Keep it up!

      • Pierrot

        Thanks Helen, you have been a regular supporter.
        If I am frustrated that would be against CL who completely ignores the blatant spamming!
        I do notthink that RedX will be necessary after Leah’s book & media tour in November. Co$ bad reputation will be spread far & wide.

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Why is everyday a Celebration for COB??

    Because the statue of limitations passed on some crime!

  • MostEthicalPimp

    Man this place is dead, What happened? Did everyone get sent to the RPF?

    • Nah, man. Just too much pizza.

      • Jack99

        RPF: Reasonable Pizza Fatigue

    • Miss Tia

      I know about here the weather has been BEAUTIFUL! People have probably gone outside to play! 🙂

  • Fun fact: Tony’s book comes out next Thursday before 2pm. Well played, Tony.

    • Mockingbird

      Stat push !

  • Strelnikov

    “The Sea Org is a fraud on its face because it does not actually exist. Per David Miscavige’s attorney Wallace Jefferson in his 2014 Writ of Mandamus, the Sea Org cannot have any members or volunteers and has no physical or legal existence:

    “Plaintiff asserts that Mr. Miscavige exercised control
    because he leads the Sea Organization, a religious order within
    Scientology. But the ‘Sea Org’ is not a corporate entity; it has no
    physical or legal existence. It is not incorporated or established
    pursuant to legal formalities. It has no constitution, charter or
    bylaws, and no formal or informal ecclesiastical, corporate, or other
    management structure. It has no directors, officers, managing agents, or
    other executives; no employees, staff members, or volunteers; no
    income; no disbursements, no bank accounts or other assets; no
    liabilities; no stationery; no office, home, address, or telephone
    number. It does not create or maintain any financial, personnel, or
    other records. It can neither give nor receive orders because it has no
    one to either give or receive them or to carry them out. It cannot sue
    or be sued.
    ” ”

    So the Boy Scouts of America, Ford Motors Corporation, and the original German Nazi Party have or had more legal reality than Slappy Miscavige’s put-upon gang of teenaged priest-handymen. Legal non-existence is a wonderful way to dodge back-pay and industrial accident lawsuits, if you are a “church” run by a sociopath.

  • villagedianne

    Are those victory signs or gang symbols being flashed by the members of Nashville Org? If it’s gang symbols, how appropriate. If it’s victory signs, well, how sad.