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Ryan Hamilton’s plan to consolidate his lawsuits against Scientology rehabs is denied

Ryan Hamilton

Ryan Hamilton

We’re so used to Las Vegas attorney Ryan Hamilton running roughshod over his opponents, this comes as a bit of a surprise. But Hamilton’s attempt to have his many lawsuits in several states against Scientology’s drug rehab network Narconon consolidated into a single federal court in Nevada was rejected on Friday.

Consolidating the cases would have simplified things for Hamilton — with so many cases (27 filed in total), they’re generating many motions which are very similar to each other.

But the US Judicial Panel on Multidistrict Litigation found that the cases, while similar, had enough differences to argue against consolidating them into one court.

These actions are primarily fraud actions and will involve significant case-specific facts, such as the specific representations regarding the Narconon Program made to each plaintiff, the conditions at the different facilities attended by the plaintiffs at different times, and the widely varying injuries allegedly suffered by plaintiffs.

Well, yes, it’s true that different Narconon victims suffered different harm. Some of Hamilton’s plaintiffs are alleging simply that they were ripped off when they signed up for drug counseling and got Scientology training instead. Others allege actual physical harm as a result of Narconon’s unscientific ‘detox’ programs. And others say they were physically or sexually attacked.

But in every single case, Narconon uses the exact same Scientology booklets for its training routines. It uses the same come-ons, with false claims that it has a sky-high success rate and that it’s “secular” and not related to Scientology. And every single Narconon answers to the same Scientology umbrella groups, governed by the same internal documents, which Hamilton has submitted in each of the lawsuits.

But OK, that similarity wasn’t enough for the judicial panel. Hamilton’s the one who filed 27 lawsuits, so he’ll have to deal with the hassle of juggling them all, and making sure he can get to courts in several different states on time.

Meanwhile, other attorneys are watching. We told you that an attorney in Michigan filed two lawsuits within a week recently that appeared to be modeled on Hamilton’s suits. We’ve learned about a California attorney who quietly filed about a dozen lawsuits in state court there, and we’ll be bringing you more about him and his suits soon. And many of you noticed that an attorney in Bloomington, Minnesota suddenly started advertising that he’s looking for plaintiffs to sue Narconon, and he’s even advertising on television nationally…

 

 
We’ve put in a call to James Rolshouse, and we hope we get a chance to talk to him soon about his slick ad and how soon he thinks he’ll file his first lawsuit.

Narconon won this round against Hamilton, but things really aren’t looking much better for Scientology’s rehabs.

 
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Sunday Funnies

Hey, let’s get back to our weekly feature and have some fun with Scientology’s latest fundraising fliers, sent to us by our great tipsters.

 
Yes, Scientology has figured out how to turn Valentine’s Day into another opportunity for prying cash out of its members. Don’t forget your tux, suckers!

 
15.02.14 ideal

 
Hey, for those who didn’t want to spend $80,000 for a Members Only jacket, here’s something new — the “Promise to Ron” recognition club in Miami, limited to only 40 people! Show how much you love Ron, give us cash!

 
atzel

 
“The object is a cleared planet…the only way to do that at a rapid enough rate and in volume is to go Ideal.” Yeah, those Ideal Orgs are really ropin’ ’em in, aren’t they!

 
cans

 
They really do think we’re all going to be scrambling on our smartphones to get the stuff they’ll be pumping out of the old KCET studios, don’t they? And in order to “commemorate” all that new dissemination, how about dropping five thou on a new E-meter!

 
global reach of media

 
Perhaps one of our Kiwi readers could tell us how Helen is a legend. (We know, we know, it’s the size of the last check she wrote.)

 
helen-legend

 
Uh-oh. “Mission Holders Conference” and David Miscavige? That’s had some bad connotations in the past. Anyone know how things went down on Friday night?

 
mhconf-1

 
We don’t know why, but this made us laugh out loud. Maybe it’s knowing what the Sea Org slaves are forced to survive on just a block away or something.

 
patio burgers

 
Isn’t ‘New Civilization Builder’ in the million-dollar range? New Zealand will be cleared in no time!

 
sally

 
“Fully hatted” has always been one of our favorite Scientology phrases.

 
tamparecruitjennifer

 
Finally, Leona paid $800 and got a T-shirt! And now she’s off to infinity, or something.

 
valencich bronze

 
Thanks again to our great tipsters!

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

A Latvian organization that calls itself “Happy Kalve” is using Scientology’s The Way To Happiness booklets in anti-drug presentations in local schools.

 
HappyKalve

 
Actual caption from The Way to Happiness Foundation India’s Facebook page after the pamphlet was used (for some reason) at the Delhi Traffic Police Headquarters… “It is very good to know about Traffic Rules and regulations and “The Way to Happiness” is very helpful. Like to know about the moral values, Ethics and what promises we do with our family and society and our duties towards the society.”

 
DelhiTraffic

 
No, this isn’t creepy at all.

 
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The Scientology quotient at tonight’s Grammy Awards is likely to be high! Or at least very weird. Wacky Joy Villa and genius Willow Smith were snapped yesterday at a pre-Grammy bash…

 
Joy_Villa_Willow_Smith

 
Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on February 8, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Re: Creepy.

    I was pondering this. As noted in the comments on Rudi’s slightly creepy facebook post to his daughter, Scientologists seem to frequently assume some sort of fantasy relationship with people they know.

    Part of this is the Scientology belief that “Children are adults in small bodies.” So Scientologists many times treat children that way, sometimes going so far as to judge children by adult standards with no sympathy for upset or inexperience.

    Or treat them like they were always mature and aware. Which denies them a true childhood.

    Another aspect is that everyone is supposedly a “spirit” who has lived untold previous lives and have done everything imaginable and been every kind of person. So this fantasy of “who they were” gets overlaid or replaces who they are now.

    I was thinking about how easy it is for this to happen and why. Scientology auditing processes, especially with the e-meter, encourage a process of giving what is just a thought or an idea the force of reality.

    When you are asked a question in a session, the answer you have is a thought or an image or an idea. If the auditor takes it up because the meter reads, that idea is given positive feedback. It makes you think that that thought or idea is real. That it is not imagination, but something that actually happened.

    Over time, the Scientologist becomes used to the idea that every stray thought in their head is somehow connected to a past life. The fantasy becomes a real belief and the world is viewed through that belief.

    So it is quite common for friends or relatives in Scientology to really believe that they had some experience with each other in one or many past lives. It becomes a part of how they think of each other. It becomes a part of how they view themselves.

    And not only in relationships. It can happen in work relationships or other aspects of life. With the learned response of “having a thought or feeling and inventing a connection to a past life, or being convinced, without tangible evidence, it is valid” life relationships become based in fantasy.

    Among my own examples: Believing that I had been: Van Gogh, Benjamin Franklin, a Nazi, a spy, all sorts of military commanders, priests, smugglers, heroes and villains of all kinds. In some ways, I lived life like a Walter Mitty, a secret life and hidden interpretation of events shaping my reality.

    • Jimmy3

      Scientology auditing processes, especially with the e-meter, encourage a process of giving what is just a thought or an idea the force of reality.

      When you are asked a question in a session, the answer you have is a thought or an image or an idea. If the auditor takes it up because the meter reads, that idea is given positive feedback. It makes you think that that thought or idea is real. That it is not imagination, but something that actually happened.

      So you’re saying I was never a Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle?

      • Robert Eckert

        You were an Adult Mutant Ninja in a Teenage Turtle body.

        • Jimmy3

          Thank you, and cowabunga.

      • What???? I was never a queen who killed my dad to take over the Kingdom? Where do all my guy issues come from? Dam it Jim!!!!

        • Jimmy3

          I dunno, but I have to guess they started *before* you killed your dad.

      • romanesco

        Hardy har har.

      • Sid

        I got a read on that. Is there an earlier similar Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtle movie you were in? Was it a prequel? Did you commit overts on other Mutants? Did you eat their pizza?

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          As a turtle, did you ever have salacious thoughts about rabbits?

          • Sid

            Your comment beat me by a hare.

      • Eileen

        Are you one now?

      • ze moo

        Just as long as you weren’t Howard The Duck. I hate that guy.

    • edge

      That actually explains a lot about Will Smith’s kids. If they’ve been told that every thought their child imaginations have ever conceived actually happened in some past life hundreds or thousands of years ago, and avoid public education where they might interact with real people not indoctrinated in Scientology, you get the nonsense that comes out of their mouths.

    • daytoncapri

      Very good post. You have given a description of truths and fictions that are bound together and hardened like agglomerate concrete.

    • MaxSpaceman

      This describes the scilon’s belief in “whole track.” It is the mortar that keeps the walls of the fortress prison of belief unbreakable. Once there is meter confirmation for all the imaginings that an individual may manufacture, the person turns the space opera fiction into their very own ‘whole track’ past lives. A deadly ‘lock’ that keeps members in.

      Thank you for sharing this, MLT.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      How many of you had been Ben Franklin in a past life, I wonder. Did you ever meet anyone who had been the same person you were? Or knew some “twins” while you were in?

      • Jimmy3

        I knew some twins in a past life. One needed a stool to reach the pot, the other was high on the pot.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Not twins. “Twins.” As in Scientologists who each believed they were the same person in a past life.

          How many believed they were Joan of Arc or Thomas Jefferson or Freud, do you suppose?

          And wouldn’t “Van Gogh” have been able to take up his painting again, once he remembered who he was???

          • Eileen

            Maybe MLT has some etchings he can show us? 😉

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Actually I do. But it has to be in person.

              Also, I married someone who thought she had been Gauguin.

            • pluvo

              Could she paint?

            • Nat-lificent

              More importantly, did she have a thing for Tahitian women?

            • MaxSpaceman

              The whole freaking track. Those beliefs can really mess up ‘present life’ decision-making. I assume.

            • For example: I got auditing to get over my ex because my postulate was “I will never leave you” before we both died. I left him for Scientology, and now that I’m out he’s getting married and all happy and shit. I’m even more pissed now that I ever was after leaving. So yes to answer your question, it can have some influence over your decision. That fucker is happy. gggrrrr.

            • Missionary Kid

              Well, I’m happy you’re here, and I hope you find your own happiness.

            • Awe thanks MK. I appreciate that ; )

            • Nat-lificent

              Oh, Yikes 🙁

          • pluvo

            I met a ‘Van Gogh’ and he was a real good painter. Seriously.

          • Jimmy3

            I can’t quite understand you? My ear doesn’t hear so well lately. Do you mean “Twins” like how DeVito is a “Twin”?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              No, I mean Scientologists who each claim to be the same person in a past life.

            • Robert Eckert

              The Tibetans, who take reincarnation seriously and give important positions to the putative reincarnations of the previous holders, often face this problem. The 19th century teacher Jamgon Kongtrul was so popular that after his death c. 1905 (I’d have to look it up) there were five putative reincarnations. No problem: they were all considered to be aspects of this great soul, although one of them was designated as “the” 2nd Jamgon Kongtrul.

      • scnethics

        An ex-auditor told me he saw a LOT of Beethoveens over the years.

    • ze moo

      Past life stuff is the imagination run riot to someones agenda. It is an exercise in ‘guidedness’ that the con man/woman uses to get some buy in from the mark.

      ‘Why yes, you were Napoleon in a past life. Yes, you were the Queen of Sheba’. How many people under these circumstances ‘remember’ being some important historical figure? Probably many. How many were lowly peasants who had horrible lives and died tragically? Probably the rest of the clampire.

      How many ‘remember’ being just some ordinary person with a non-interesting life? Those people are probably rare in this scam.

      The clampire wants everyone to have ‘ruins’, and by including these ‘past lives’ they get a potentially huge pot of ‘ruins’ to cure. Cures that will cost the mark all the con wants.

  • RMycroft

    I added a couple of days to UmbraXenu: Today and Tomorrow in Scientology history.

    (And the tags hook into the wiki. I should have done that a year ago.)

    • RMycroft

      Honey, I completely the whole year!

      Now you can step back and forth through the whole year. (Except February 29th, I’ll fix that.) Best of all, the template for those pages is Pure Concentrated Search Engine Candy! Hmm, now to add it to the sitemap…

  • aquaclara

    Ryan Hamilton’s loss in this round doesn’t look like a huge setback. Yes, it’s more time in court, or in negotiating possible settlements. But there are many stories here where real people were seriously harmed. I am all for seeing as much information as possible make it to the public record.

    Each judge that sees these cases becomes familiar with the kind of games Scientology plays. And for each victim, and their family, they deserve their time in court.

    Each suit is important. And now we hear of more, more, more?! Until the day there are no more falling for their tricks, there is room for more lawsuits.

    Good luck, Ryan. And to the other lawyers now taking these cases on, too.

  • anoni81b4u

    I know all the people on this board know of the foolishness of LRH “tech” . I like to call it BS myself.
    So (I hope no one gets pneumonia ) I will post the beginning of OTIII in LRHs handwriting and make sure the troll does not bother us anymore, your welcome troll .. please don’t troll .. explain otIII if you don’t have pneumonia already. The rest of the message board users can use my trick to run off stupid sci-bots using their own crazy foolish shit .. I learned it from from a protest u-tube vid … show them ot3 and they run … lol

    • MaxSpaceman

      This attests to that.

      Fair Use. For Educational Purposes. World Religions 101. Carnegie Mellon University. Emphasis added.

      HCO BULLETIN OF 10 NOVEMBER 1981

      LIMITED DISTRIBUTION
      OT III & above ONLY
      AO C/Ses
      AO Solo C/Ses
      NOTs C/Ses
      AO Review Auditors

      OT III AND OT III ATTEST

      This issue changes the current handling of OT III and OT III attests and the next step after OT III. We want to end-off “endless IIIs”. Starting now, AO C/Ses are to handle PreOTs on OT III as follows:

      Let the person audit on OT III as long as he wishes. But at the first slackening or abandonment or EP, or if he is just going on and on into”endless III”, look for a nice win and tell him, that’s it, and shunt him over to Audited NOTs [New Era Dianetics for Operating Thetans].

      An AO Review may be necessary before sending the person to attest. On an”endless III”, or some of these people who have been incomplete on OT III or who have been on and off OT III for a long time, a Review would be necessary. The Review could be as short as an LDN OT III and Rehab their best win on OT III, or as long as a C/S 53 to F/Ning list followed by an LDN OT III and then Rehab their best win on OT III. On some you might only need to find a nice win they had on OT III and indicate that that was it, or get it rehabbed in session (this would mainly apply to persons currently on OT III).

      Some of this termination of III would depend on auditor availability for Audited NOTs , but if this is a situation the solution is to train up more NOTs auditors.

      The whole intention here is to take PreOTs who have “completed” OT III per the above qualification and shunt them over to Audited NOTs.

      Let’s start making OTs in VOLUME.

      [ “dm = David Mayo. “kjm” = Karen Mayo (iirc), David’s wife ]

      L. RON HUBBARD
      FOUNDER
      LRH:dm:kjm
      Copyright (c) 1981
      by L. Ron Hubbard

      • anoni81b4u

        As a guy who has never been in this cult, could you please tell me what the hell the above letter meant to people on otIII? L Rons made up cult speak makes my brain hurt.

        • ze moo

          It means don’t let the OT3 patsy stay at that level. Get them into costly, revenue generating auditing. It is always about the money.

          • anoni81b4u

            thank you.

        • Anonymous

          “…could you please tell me what the hell the above letter meant to people on otIII?”

          It is more like what it meant…to the Org…that applied the bulletin.

          Sometimes people got into an endless solo-audit situation on OT III, where they just could not seem to feel they were done and ready to attest. However, in reality this was probably actually caused (more often than not) by the extreme hype / build up on what the results were likely to be on OT III, from all of the Hubbard and church promo.

          People on OT III wanted something BIG to happen so they would feel “DONE.”

          But that something BIG often never came, so they were sent to review where they were gently guided to feel “done” so they could attest to being complete on OT III. This then made them “eligible (heh) for the next OT level, which was an audited process, which cost a lot more money, which meant it was in the best interest of the Org (not the pre-OT) to be done with OT III (which was solo audited) and therefore did not result in a large cash flow to the church beyond the initial course / level cost and the C/Sing that went with it.

          TL;DR version: moving someone off OT III by getting them to say they were done, meant the Org could sell them something new and expensive (again) like OT IV or the L’s.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Thanks anon.

  • FOTF2012

    One good thing about Hamilton having to handle multiple lawsuits is that Scientology will also have to handle multiple lawsuits.

    On another note regarding one of the flyers, why can’t the most literate people on earth, bolstered by their hallowed and infallible study tech, spell hors-d’œuvre right?

    • anoni81b4u

      I am guessing that with one attorney took his own money to advertise suing Narcanon. That’s a game over open friggin season move.. Lawyers just declared open season on them and they will be jumping over each other to cash in on the easy money until narcanon is gone …
      Its a great day to be alive 🙂

    • L. C. Spencer

      Sleep deprivation. This is what you get when you construct flyers, posters, media etc, after seventeen straight hours on post.

    • FOTF2012

      Not to mention, regarding that same fyer, the irregular capitalization, the missing apostrophe in Valentine’s Day, and the likely fact that they mean to serve desserts, not deserts.

      All this from the crew that would, if they could, get Applied Scholastics study tech installed in every school — the very crew that is obsessed with words and word clearing.

  • Bob Crouch

    Scientology dating? “Up to the challenge I utilised all of my best contacts and resources and communication skills that I could muster [sic]”
    WTF does that mean? Did he fair game the poor woman? Dead agent her to make the competition flee in disgust? Send PI’s after her? Picket her house? Get her regged until she was too broke to live on her own any longer?
    Creepy indeed!

    • Eileen

      It is his daughter, not a date. Yes, it is very creepy.

    • grundoon

      Means he tried to be a good father, Scientology style.

  • nottrue

    Make a wrong turn end up a scientologist…

    • Artoo45

      Should’a toined left at Albuquerque . . .

      • MaxSpaceman

        and gone on straight thru to Alamogordo

    • Aslan’s Own

      Wait – is that traffic school? And they use TWTH?

  • Jgg2012

    “This court finds that Narconon is so harmful, and has hurt people in so many different ways, that we cannot consolidate their cases in a class action. That would not do justice to people who were not only ripped off, but suffered severe mental and physical damage and, in a few cases, died. In addition, punitive damages will be justified in several cases for wanton, willful behavior. Scientology will have to be punished separately in all 27 cases…”
    If I were Davey, I would not be smiling.

    • ze moo

      While I can see the courts point, separate trials will cost more. Costs that the state and litigants will have to bear. I take heart in the national ads for NarCONon suits. As there are no NarCONon in NY, I wonder if I’ll see any? See any outside of the bunker anyway.

      • Jgg2012

        You know, if people like Lisa Marie Presley, Leah Remini, and Rupert Murdoch (who was upset that Co$ tried to take his daughter) want to help bring down the cult, they could Just loan money to plaintiffs suing Narconon to help pay their legal fees. A lot of plaintiffs may be tempted to take a small settlement rather than go to trial and win a verdict that will take years to collect. If they insist on going to trial, the legal expenses and bad publicity borne by the cult will probably destroy them. And yes, Hamilton and other plaintiff’s lawyers have out of pocket expenses they won’t recover for a while,

        • Spackle Motion

          Typically lawyers receive a 33% contingency of the settlement or financial award and the Plaintiff’s don’t pay for anything until an award is granted. Settlements occur in the majority of civil tort cases. The costs (personal, financial, and emotional) of taking a suit through trial are enormous even when you don’t have a Defendant that is Fair Gaming you.

        • ze moo

          Hambo got some money early on from ABLE and NarCONon International to be left out of some of the suits. That may pay enough of the upfront costs to feed the legal conveyor belt.

    • Observer

      I’ve been waiting for Norbie Cohl to come along and rub our noses in the “fact” that Scientology never loses in court.

      • Jgg2012

        Actually, Scientology has never won a jury trial.

        • Observer

          The trick is getting Scientology’s shenanigans in front of a jury, since they whip out the settlement checkbook when it looks like something is going to trial.

  • Just Dee

    I do not understand Rudi’s comment at all. It sounds like he is wishing his daughter a happy 22 birthday. But what the heck does it mean going with the flow until someone better comes along – Hell… I don’t understand the entire first paragraph.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You don’t speak crazy all that well, do you?

      • Just Dee

        Thank you. I thought it was just me. lol

    • Jgg2012

      Logic has no place in Scientology. Is it logical to follow the words of a bigamist college dropout who said that smoking is good for you?

      • Just Dee

        I hear ya. I wasn’t really looking for logic from a scientologist, I had no clue on what he was trying to say. lol

    • Chee Chalker

      I think he was trying to say until someone better comes along for her, meaning when she meets someone, i. e. a husband.
      It was an awkward attempt to say happy birthday to his daughter. He would have been better off just sticking with a simple ‘happy 22nd birthday to my wonderful daughter’ instead of trying to make it about him with all the $cilon gobbledygook.

    • Robert Eckert

      I have attempted some Crazy-English/English-Crazy translations. I believe that the whole first paragraph is actually talking about his relationship with his wife and how he got talked into that marriage because “meh nothing better to do” but some good things ended up coming from that– like his daughter.

      • grundoon

        I think it’s when she was born, she saw him and started to cry, but for him it was love at first sight. He tried his best; she put up with him until now. Now it’s all good.

        Something personal like this, that only he and she will really understand, why post it on Facebook to disturb and mystify thousands of strangers? SMH

        • Robert Eckert

          Could be.

  • Cosmo Pidgeon

    Regarding the creepy to my daughter Valentine even one of his friends says “I hope others understand this”….I think he might mean “I hope this isn’t what it looks like”.

  • NekMinit

    Kia ora, dr helen smith is that fool kevin owens’ mate, who both got that drug free aotearoa loon, frances louis into the Great Fake Lies0tology. She co-founded and is hiding behing a Auckland Holistic Centre and yet calls it a Medical Clinic?? Bt her links go straight to all things scn and a few other medical practices and people who are obviously NZeds whales. And I’ve noticed they’re infiltrating NZ by targeting the minority races by translating their books and crap into maori, samoan, tongan and other islanders. There is so much hidden within the health sector and mental health. I have gone down many maori rabbit holes that started at universities, youth groups , health sectors, retreats/rehabs and they’ve lead me to heavily scn involved crap. And I havent seen anything they can show for there so called work.
    I’m not a good ‘thoughts to paper person’ so if my comments incoherent thats pretty much why I dont comment much.
    In saying that I would like to thank Stacy for her input of comments from a never-in and asking great questions in a great way, sensitive yet serious, when she started here, they were questions I wondered bt couldnt type and the answers were also always great.

    • ze moo

      I am surprised to learn that $cienobabble has been translated to Maori and Samoan. Those are very small markets, but then they can get all the whales (worldwide) to pay for the translations. Thanks for the Kiwi info.

      • NekMinit

        Yep just change the maori translation so it says way to wellness throw in some real facts that we maori have the highest diabetes rate yadda ya thenyour given a kaiako (Kie-a-ko)sounds better than ‘im the leader and you listen and learn from Me’ and then you go on their journey believing first its your spiritual journey which is a big thing to maori until sprinklings of ‘te ara ki te harikoa’ (way to happiness) and the the maori just want to be treated like leaders and these leaches are hiding behind them doin some of the nasty work and letting the rest of ulook like maori fanatics.its a very messy interteining ending with LRHate.
        that trevor wilkinson helps run a company that helps stop constipation, Phloe.

        • ze moo

          So Trevor thinks he knows his shit?

          • NekMinit

            Probably thinks his shit dont stink…dont bother leaning a lil closer…

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      Kia ora! Please keep commenting! Your coherency is just fine! (and can’t let the Ozzies have all the bandwidth–You were wise to surround NZ with a moat!) It wasn’t filled in time tho, because (No QB BS here–>) A number of years ago between 1996 and 2004ish We were visited by 2 Lovely Maori Ladies
      who were Our Cousins. The connection goes back to Our mutual Great Great GrandParents,who reside in Abney Park Cemetery in London! Our Grt Gpa’s older Brother immigrated to Melbourne and a Child of his went to NZ.

      As We (FRW–Faux Royal “We”—shhhhh) said, Please comment often and keep Us informed about $ci’s invasion of Your Beautiful Islands! Sincerely, QB

  • Robert Eckert

    How is Fay Brousseau related to John Brousseau?

    • i-Betty

      I wondered what the connection was, too, Rob. I wouldn’t have thought it’s a common name.

      • Robert Eckert

        Even when the names are common, Scientology is so incestuous that there is usually a relationship. In the case of “Brousseau” I take it pretty much as given they are related somehow.

        • i-Betty

          Don Carlo’s Celebrity Spiderweb is usually a great resource but I’m so tired I’m probably not searching properly:

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***
    As of 4:30pm est 68 ads already, Nashville, Sacramento, Albu, LA & Boston, there is no Sunday rest in co$land anymore it is all go, go, go, now, now ! If nothing else we are keeping them very very busy.
    Sound the alarm, Bostonians, Californians and friends it is time to climb to the battlements .
    (in french : monter aux remparts, what is the english equivalent?)
    Some bad language by a StLouis counter Ader.
    Check the Daily Wip for the fresh ads. Keep checking for more ads from California later this evening every 2nd hours.
    RedX write up : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. If you have the time: extend your reach to the rest of your area and even the rest of North
    America.

    Halo Wars Spartans by Vertigo, enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX & flickred by Aegerprimo:. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15402065820/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Graham
      • Pierrot

        Thanks Graham, I must admit that I just give a quick glance to the content of the ads and thus misses some obvious non clam.
        Taken care of.

    • Eileen

      Holy Crap on a Cracker! 113 Boston ads, I’ve never seen half this number before! I’ll stay after them, maybe this is because Boston didn’t get a scieno ad during the Super Bowl. Or maybe they just sold the Alexandra hotel and are trying to misdirect attention. Whatever the reason, it is too late for scientology in Boston.
      Bye, JJ. Trust me, you will feel much better once it is all over in Beantown and you can get a real life.

      • Robert Eckert

        We haven’t seen JJ on such a tear for a while. He will post the same ad over and over and over and over again. The other clams at least try to pretend like they aren’t spamming by posting many different ads.

      • ze moo

        So, Boston abandoned by Miscavage? Lucky beantown.

    • Robert Eckert
      • Pierrot

        Done, thanks.

  • valshifter

    finally was able to log in.

  • just a minor tidbit blind reveal…. Willow didn’t actually sing on her album (no surprise there, ed)

    pic

    • Tony Ortega

      Enty corrected his Going Clear errors yet?

      • Jimmy3

        If he did, would anyone be able to see them?

        • i-Betty

          If an Enty fell in a forest…

          • Jimmy3

            People would hear it for a hundred or more years. “Help! I’ve fallen and can’t get up” in Entish is like a novel. An e-book novel, of course.

            • i-Betty

              Hroom, hm, young Threebeard.

            • Jimmy3

              I’m gonna use that name. Thank you.

      • nope, I’ve tracked down his original post and will tweet him again…. as I said before, maybe he was deliberately sent some misinformation to put OSA off-track…. out of all of them out there his accuracy rate is the top of the pile and he actually posts the named reveals so sets himself up to be sued and, as far as I know, never has been.

  • 1subgenius

    Update on my e-meter adventure.
    Lo, and behold, there IS an FDA sticker on the bottom. No wonder I missed it, it is a clear sticker with black printing, affixed to a black background. Hand it to the Scilons to “comply” in bad faith.
    You can only make it out if you hold it a a certain angle to the light.
    Still trying to figure out how to “calibrate”, etc. Later.

    • i-Betty

      I’m about to email you. Let’s do this in a covert manner. I’ll send you one word – you type it here so I know it’s you. Um…you’ll have to just take my word for it that it’s me 😛

      • 1subgenius

        Will you make me a sandwich?

        • i-Betty

          Fab 🙂

          • 1subgenius

            No, seriously, I’m hungry.

            • i-Betty

              Make your own, I’m watching a video!

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Don’t play with the Emeter on an empty stomach, it might give you cramps. What’s that you say? It does that anyway? OK, cool.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Wow, sneaky. I wonder if the FDA ever saw that? Talk about a big middle finger to the authorities.

      • 1subgenius

        Probably, and thought “Oh fuck, we didn’t write the reg tight enough”.
        Also, I think maybe this was done by a judicial order, and was just too broad because of that.

    • LongtimeLurker

      This should make you feel better though, when they mention it in print they also have to include that disclaimer, and it has to be legible.
      F5/Refresh

      • 1subgenius

        Them’s still weally words that imply, to the customers at least, that it’s cool.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Yeah, true. “Pastoral counseling device” must set off alarms for some though. Wtf?

          • 1subgenius

            Not to the customers, the buyers. What you posted is for buyers who are already Scientologists.
            For the times they do free tests on the street, no one will see it.

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      Could that partial serial number draw unwanted attention to someone?

  • HillieOnTheBeach

    So Rudi, you upped and told your daughter that a) you and mom conceived her because mom had no better options and b) she was born as a matter of taking some “bate”.

    Good solid, loving birthday wishing to your kid, ya farking moron.

    • Sidney18511

      He is talking to his newborn daughter who’s 22nd birthday is that day. Maybe he is married and she is his 5th child.

      I guess even thetans celebrate birthdays. Who knew?

      • HillieOnTheBeach

        His 22 year-old is his 6th child, lord knows how many followed. And he even admits he still didn’t have his act together when she was born. 6 kids! I bet none of his brood could rely on him for a minimal college fund.

        But happy meat body birthday, sweetie./sarcasm

  • Vaquera

    If anyone is going to be watching the Grammy’s tonight, keep an eye out for my favorite Sciloon train wreak, Miss Joy Villa, who claims she will be on the red carpet tonight.

    http://instagram.com/p/y2mX1qmkrq/

    • Vaquera

      Holy Heck! Speaking of train wreak!!! Her ensemble for the evening…..

      http://instagram.com/p/y20D3oTRg2/

      • Mark

        …and where she pinched it from:

        • Vaquera

          Thank you!! I couldn’t put my mental finger on it.

          • Mark

            You couldn’t avoid it here when they were getting ready for the Olympics. 😉

        • Jimmy3

          Jesus… If she’s wearing that…where is my fence? I have to check on my chickens. Goodbye.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        I am embarrassed that I looked so closely, but is that camel toe in the first shot?

        • Vaquera

          The one with the close-up of her face?

          To add….OH! I didn’t need to see that.

          • Mark

            Multiple snortles! 😀

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Ha! No, I goofed the floof. I’ll edit to make clear.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Goal!

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Letting her thetans go proudly free.

        • Nat-lificent

          *snort*

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Poor Joan Rivers is desperately trying to get out of her grave. I can almost hear her from here.

        • Nat-lificent

          Lol

        • George Layton

          Some poor guy is stuck in a snowdrift cursing the rat bastards that made off with the fencing.

        • beauty for ashes

          Awww! Joan Rivers is one of my heroes. She had an amazing work ethic above everything else. I was really sad when she died. I love this joke!

      • Phytophile

        Is that snow fencing?

        • RMycroft

          Designer snow fencing. Somebody ran down to Home Depot, bought a roll of it, and charged her a fortune.

          • Observer

            She’s used to shelling out the dough for worthless stuff some people say is elite …

      • Observer

        W.T.F.!

      • beauty for ashes

        Painful Joy! I was just watching Fashion Police before I came in the Bunker. This is not high fashion and I’ll venture why.
        If one is going to wear something that you can clearly see your body parts, you better be damn sure your body parts are beyond reproach. Joy isn’t wearing proper …..oh so many things.
        I would have enjoyed this concept if she had done a few things differently. perhaps worn a bandeau and tap shorts in that same orange. She clearly has a beautiful waistline, and that would have drawn positive accentuation to that, while being fashion forward. Instead, I find it hard not to notice that her breasts are uneven and her tan lines are visible. Body makeup?
        Even if the dress was entirely lined with a nude fabric, it would have more structure and look less accidental and thoughtless. As it is, it screams out for negative attention .
        I appreciate that Princess has a personal motif of a hair bow. If it wasn’t floating on her halo of hair, but attached to her head and smaller she might even pull it off. But trying to pull it over one eye and reference Lady Gaga is not looking modern.
        Her saving grace is that face and smile. If she was not so pretty, and have a youthful radiance. I wouldn’t have bothered. I wish for her an abundance of critical thinking and an editing eye. 🙂

  • ScooterLibbby

    I love the ultra serious & thoroughly useless warning under the Mark VIII meter in that KCET poster.

    “Ownership or use of this meter by anyone not in good standing by the Church of $cientology is prohibited”

    Better get out your shysters on that one, because once an end purchaser of a product has bought one, it’s theirs to do with as they choose.
    Unless the $cilons are just leasing them & that wording indicates otherwise, they don’t have anything to stand on in court!

  • Tony Ortega

    SPEAK OF THE DEVIL — JOY VILLA PHOTO ADDED

    • Jimmy3

      I wonder when that was taken. It was sometime between 1950 and 2050, I’m sure of that.

    • Mark

      Yesterday black bin-bags, today orange building-site fencing. What’s she going to be sporting tomorrow—those plastic things that hold beer-cans together?

      • Nat-lificent

        Maaybe she’s really into recyclin . . . oh, nevermind.

        • Mark

          I just hope she doesn’t catch a nasty cold, swanning around like that.

          • Mark

            Or at least PUT SOME KNICKERS ON…

            • Nat-lificent

              I know it’s already been done but I think a roadcone bra would have been the way to go instead of flesh toned pasties.

            • Mark

              In my mother’s day, it was called “all fur coat and no knickers”. Now it’s “bugger the fur coat—no knickers and whatever you can steal from a builder’s yard.”

            • Sherbet

              I think you’ve just defined high fashion, Mark.

            • shasha40

              No wonder I’ m a jeans and tee shirt kinda girl . I don’t not get the look of ” high fashion ” apparently . 🙁

            • Mark

              As Edina said in Ab Fab: “just for once I’d like to take my clothes off and not be marked by them!”

            • shasha40

              I would be in perfect company hanging with them , just change the drinks all to , Heineken’s ! : D

            • Sherbet

              You are talking about scientology’s biggest celebrity. Well, she may not be exactly that, but I think cos is in dire straits and has to get someone new in front of the cameras. And she’s their “It Girl” today.

            • shasha40

              In that case someone needs to ask her opinion on , ” Going Clear ” . She can answer for tiny member ? No ? : D

            • Sherbet

              Said with a disarming smile, “I have no interest in seeing it.”

            • shasha40

              I see right through that smile … 😉

            • Mark

              I bet she was left with some interesting (ahem) indentations after sitting down… rather like a waffle.

            • Sherbet

              Ha! I hadn’t thought of that. And I sort of wish I hadn’t thought of that.

            • Vaquera

              Waffle thighs

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Chicken and waffles anyone?

      • shasha40

        {{{Give her a break , she’ s obviously fashionably impaired . }}}

      • Vaquera

        Bin-bags! I been trying to figure out what the hell that dress was made of and you nailed it.
        http://instagram.com/p/y0sveWmklQ/

        • Jimmy3

          She looks a little hefty.

          • Sherbet

            Whoa!

          • Vaquera

            47 points to you, J3.

          • Observer

            She’s a Scientologist so we know she’s wimpy wimpy wimpy, at least when it comes to dealing with suppression.

            For those who have no clue what this is all about: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TJdQfjaRAG0

            • EnthralledObserver

              Ah… now it makes sense – for if she was ‘hefty’, I’m the size of the world.

            • Jimmy3

              Thank you, they was gonna kill me. I know it.

            • Observer

              Thank Xenu you can find every commercial ever made on YouTube.

            • Jimmy3

              Thank Xenu that I know now what happens to me when they do kill me. I’ll be hefty, hefty hefty!

          • 1subgenius

            She looks glad to be there.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Jesus, she must be working her way through the “found items” collection from the Goodwill store. Shabby chic my ass!

          • Sherbet

            Our local children’s museum has bins of found items for kids to use in their creative hobbies Joy has visited those bins for sure.

          • Jimmy3

            Naw, she’s just ahead of the curb on fashion. Literally ahead of the curb.

            “Who are you wearing?”

            “It’s from Gary, my next door neighbor. He puts his garbage out early every week, and you know, I do what I can with it.”

            • LongtimeLurker

              You’re a genius.

            • 1subgenius

              Personally, I’m Glad she wore that.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ziplock panties?

        • EnthralledObserver

          Grunge mermaid.

        • beauty for ashes

          Is it two different dresses sewn together? The top looks like a cheap latex bondage dress, and the bottom looks like old carseat material. with a crinoline stuffed underneath it. Oh well, at least her body looks good!

          • LongtimeLurker

            She spends a lot of time in the gym. According to her facebook page. Which I only went to for examples of Scientology.

        • Sejanus

          Drop sheets.
          Splooge comes right off. 😀

    • Vaquera

      Chick Corea just won a Grammy.
      http://instagram.com/p/y2167wE3xR/

      • scnethics

        Happens every year, it seems.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          What we need is a Chick Corea and Philip Glass cage-match challenge.

          No cofffee needed to wake up for this one, trust me.

          • scnethics

            Throw in Prince and Trent Reznor and I’m there! 🙂

      • Jimmy3

        For Best Improved Jazz Solo. In America, that’s the equivalent of winning a You Were A Great Participant! award.

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          Did it say “Improved” first, Jimmy? I swear I saw that and it made me laugh MORE than improvised.

          • Jimmy3

            That was an autocorrect typo that I edited. Meant to type Improvised. But you’re right, that was funnier.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Thetans don’t need no fingerprints.

  • Graham

    Tom Cruise presenting award at BAFTAs. Stephen Fry sycophantic.

    • Graham

      “OMFG it’s Tom Cruise” Yeah Stephen. Waddevah.

    • Observer

      Meanwhile, Tom is internally sneering at the 1.1, even though Stephen Fry has eleventy times the brains and actual talent.

      • Graham

        Stephen Fry may be 1.1 but that’s still well above the coward Miscavige’s current position of minus 8 ‘hiding’, sliding rapidly towards ‘can’t hide’ and total failure.

        • Observer

          But Miscavige is a Big Being. He said so.

      • Sherbet

        So did TC congratulate Stephen Fry on his recent marriage? And then offer to audit the gay out of him?

  • ed inthehouse

    Yesterday aegerprimo posted the link to LRon’s kooky affirmations and this made me laugh:

    (y1) “That the numbers 7, 25 and 16 are not unlucky or evil for me. That no number is any different in its influence upon me than any other number. That the 7th, 16th and 25th are not unlucky or unfortunate days of the month for me. I have no bad connotations with these numbers.” Hmm, think again…

    Going Clear: Theatrical World Premiere at Sundance – January 25th
    Going Clear: HBO Premiere – March 16th

    Holy Xenu! Is this just a coincidence or has that “evil” Alex Gibney got your number(s), Ron?

    Ha, now I’m postulating what other glorious CO$ disaster will occur on a 7th day of the month this year!

  • MaxSpaceman

    HBO showing the Tom Cruize flick “Edge of Tomorrow” 5:30pm-7:30pm EST.

    • shasha40

      I’ ll watch it if I get to pretend Tom is Davey every time …

    • How can something so Beautiful BE SO EVIL. Can never watch a TC movie again. The Scio Sprinkle Dust has been wearing off lately.

      • MaxSpaceman

        (( it’s good so far ))

        • LongtimeLurker

          I really enjoyed it. I’m sorry to say.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I figure it’s ok to watch TC movies… so long as you haven’t paid for it. 🙂 (Research)

        • yeah??? I do love TC movies…maybe I’ll give in one more time : )

          • MaxSpaceman

            and Cruize is really doing a good job in it too, sorry to say . . .

            • LongtimeLurker

              I think it’s the best he’s been since Collateral. He’s doing way less “Cruise schtick” in it.

              Goddamn it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Collateral was one of his best career performances.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Stop replying, watch the film.

              I agree, btw.

            • Okay as long as no one shoots an arrow at me for watching it. I LOVE TC. : )lolol

            • MaxSpaceman

              there’s no doubt it is a very compelling motion picture

      • Vanfan

        I used to think the same way and then I watched Oblivion and really liked it. I can separate the individual from his art. It took a while though.

        • Robert Eckert

          Besides, in Oblivion you get to see Tom Cruise beat the hell out of Tom Cruise, and in Edge of Tomorrow you get to see him die, painfully, multiple times.

        • madame duran

          I don’t have a problem with people choosing to watch Tom Cruise films. There are a couple of them I personally enjoy (Minority Report, Rain Man). You like whatever you like; it’s a matter of opinion and subjective taste. No apology needed. However, I refuse to PAY to watch his films. It’s a matter of principle.

    • Eileen

      Watching it now, it’s pretty good, Groundhog Day on steroids.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Is it over? What did you think?

      • MaxSpaceman

        Yeah- that’s entertainment. One of the best of Cruize’s pictures. Liman’s work was stellar and Cruize was at his best.

        • LongtimeLurker

          I concur. Blunt was good too. Glad you enjoyed it. Now if only he wasn’t in a goddam cult.

    • I’m surprised he hasn’t demanded his movies be removed from HBO! 🙂

  • well, he did turn up to the Baftas after all….. Stephen Fry I am disappoint you threw no snark…. [He did introduce him as Tom Fucking Cruise, though]

    • Graham

      Yes, but it wasn’t done ironically. Sounded to me more like ‘how fucking amazing to have the wonderful TC with us tonight’. Makes me want to puke.

      • Sherbet

        I’m disappointed to hear that. Fry is a national treasure.

        • Graham

          I suppose he had little choice in the context of an awards show. A bunch of luvvies congratulating each other and not letting nasty reality get in the way.

          • Sherbet

            That doesn’t stop Ricky Gervais. 😀

            • EnthralledObserver

              TC and JT weren’t in the audience that day though… I wonder if he’d have been so ballzy if they had been.

            • Sherbet

              The Academy (or whoever) probably admonishes their hosts to play nice, but it’s good publicity when they don’t.

            • Jenstnick

              I’m pretty sure he would have been just as bad, if not worse. He’s all out of fucks to give.

        • he was in an animated conversation with him in the background when the winner was accepting

          • Sherbet

            Was TC presenting, or did he win something?

      • the possible implication that people might be confused about the implication of the phrase interpretation amuses me greatly

    • Observer

      Those masks remind me of something … what could it be?

      refresh

      • Sherbet

        Observer, is that mask made of burlwood? I just noticed it.

        • Observer

          It’s made of lies and broken lives.

          • Sherbet

            That’s deep, Obs.

            • Observer

              It gives me a sad.

            • Sherbet

              🙁 Absolutely

      • scnethics

        YES!

    • anoni81b4u

      Oh to all the photo people … how long until all the masks around him look like anonymous masks ?

      • George Layton

        Those aren’t masks, they’re body thetans.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Tom Cruise is looking like Richard Gere… TC is slowly disappearing from within.

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        because a gerbil (or a squirrel) is eating him?

  • Todd Tomorrow

    An unemployed buddy of mine somehow got me a copy of, Going clear! I leave out of town for work until Thursday and want to make sure I watch it on my system. Sometimes they are horrible copies but others actually contain material that didn’t make it into the movie. I swear I won’t give anything away, after all plenty have seen it. Guilt, however, is strangely sneaking in. I’m elated!

    • anoni81b4u

      Its not really good manners to watch an illegal copy of something made by people who you want to support. My opinion 🙂

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        A correct opinion, I might add.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Todd might be planning on paying for it later. As well.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          True brother, Lurker.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I might just wait after all I do have HBO.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I thought of that but I’ve paid for HBO for years. Still rolling it over in my mind.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I support them, as I mentioned I have, HBO. But I still might wait as we are having a party at my place when it airs. Yeah, it’ll give me something to look forward to, Plus, I forgot about the party.

        • Vanfan

          will you send me a copy please. Going Clear not going to air in Canada for some time.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            R you sure? That’s odd. I wouldn’t mind helping you just have to see if it came out properly.

            • Vanfan

              Just kidding about sending me a copy. Don’t do anything illlegal

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I won’t I didn’t realize how they had cracked down on those things.

            • Vanfan

              oh they really haven’t. It’s just that HBO Canada has not yet attained the rights to the movie, although I expect they will in the future. It just sucks not being able to be part of the big event.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          I’ve also paid for HBO for years and years. Been striking out on a torrent for this one though. Your friend’s got a different type of hookup?

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I’m not sure but he has all day to clean his apt. and figure these things out.

      • EnthralledObserver

        No – it’s ok – watch that sucker and then pay again to watch it later!

    • Eileen

      Oh, go ahead! You already have HBO!

    • Jo

      Todd, sorry I don’t believe this has been leaked. even the horrible copies. I’m curious if your mate minds being called the unemployed buddy?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He has a small trust fund. When his siblings in, Detroit were smoking crack and going to jail he went to law school, funded by his Grandparent’s.. He says it is all ready and he’s never failed me in the past. We got Ellen’s advance copy of, The Hurt Locker. Many times they’ll even have the exact measurements for editing at the bottom and top. Yeah, he would probably mind being called that.

  • LongtimeLurker

    Vaquera, this is for you;

    “I’m a boss
    I’m a queen
    I’m your best friend
    and I’m clean
    I’ve got the details
    under control
    I’ve got plenty of love
    to rock and roll”

    Excerpt From: Joy Villa. “Poems By The Princess.”

    (Formatting is as it originally appeared)

    • Panopea Abrupta

      “ I’m dross
      Best unseen
      I’ve a big end
      Quite obscene
      My “church” retails,
      Sunders, con trolls
      Push come to shove
      It shocks your soul”

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        You’re quick!

      • sugarplumfairy

        And you’re talented!

    • Vaquera

      Thx LL!

      • LongtimeLurker

        I’m also working on a collage of some of her ‘best’ facebook posts. I’ll post it in a couple days.

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      NOW Vaquera!!! AND with Our Sista Sister’s Poem! @@
      “beauty for ashes” has Our Empathy. You are such a insouciant heart-breaker. We Goldenrod Declare You are a Troller of Women! Don’t be using your lame Ethnic Excuse! 😛
      https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/20/b6/5e/20b65e3c3800462e56c23b52bd6ed148.jpg

  • Vanfan

    I don’t understand why willow smith is referred to as a genius. somebody please explain.

    • Nat-lificent

      It’s rude to call her “a future meth addict”?

      • LongtimeLurker

        Oh god, you’re killing me. Too funny.

    • Sherbet

      Compared to her brother…

      • Nat-lificent

        ^^^^^^^^^^!

      • Qbird

        watching the weather closely Sherbet — holy crap, New England has been hit hard this winter — hoping you & the Captain are all good.

    • Observer

      It’s completely sarcastic. Google “willow jaden smith bizarre interview”

      • Vanfan

        phew, i was hoping Tony wasn’t serious.

        • Graham

          He forgot the quote marks: “genius” Willow Smith.

        • LongtimeLurker

          It’s unfair to pick on a child, and one who’s been twisted by Scientology.

          But she is clearly an idiot.

          And her brother…

          • anoni81b4u

            I have raised a child, and I was raised from a child to an adult by my parents, that is my experience on this topic, and the phrase that best sums up my feelings is “there are not bad children, just bad parents”

            • LongtimeLurker

              I love children and (as a non-religious person) I think they’re sacred.

              But I don’t want to ever have to talk to Willow Smith.

            • anoni81b4u

              I am glad to hear that you don’t bark at the moon for spiritual salvation, as I do not either. But we all (as humans) need to remember that we need to try to take really good care of all our children, as we are all better off for it, especially the children, Im not a big fan of smiths kids silliness, but lets wait until she turns 18 before we call her names. And we should try to talk to her if we had a chance, and we wont (sad to say)

        • Observer

          Based on that interview, Tony once referred to them as “Time Lords and prana energy enthusiasts Jaden and Willow Smith” which to this day makes me snicker.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I’m really looking forward to a future interview (say 10-20 years time) where someone asks her to explain the Time Lord interview… that’ll be entertainment!

            • Jimmy3

              That took place yesterday in her timeline. And it’s now called Time Lord Magazine. And she owns it.

    • Nat-lificent

      It’s like when he calls Meghan Fialkoff “glamourous.” He is making fun of the way other reporters have painted them. A lot of reporters didn’t know what to make of Jaden and Willow’s babble so they inferred they may be super duper smart geniuses. http://tmagazine.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/11/17/jaden-and-willow-smith-exclusive-joint-interview/?_r=0

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15_oM-jL38E

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        I have a different theory on the “glamorous” Meghan. We can expect she googles herself, right? I’m mean, who doesn’t? And she is prime “look at what people think about me” material, so maybe Tony thinks if he uses a complimentary word about her, it will entice her to drop by. At least once. Then she’ll know we’re watching her and her fishy dissemination efforts.

        • Nat-lificent

          Perhaps. It just makes me happy to think it’s a dig at Kelsey Miller 🙂

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Or that…

        • LongtimeLurker

          That’s why I always type Scientology and Scientologists out in full. For the Google bots. Except I don’t think they can access Disqus comments.

          But it’s the thought that counts.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          This is why I’ve renamed her Motorboat Meg. Its a postulate thing.

      • Couch_Incident

        Is it sexist that I feel sorry for Willow and loathe Jaden???

        • Nat-lificent

          NO! This is the appropriate way to feel!

        • LongtimeLurker
        • Plotinus

          It’s only natural. That little shite Jaden always looks like he’s taunting people with that stupid expression.

    • shasha40

      A joke .

  • Watching the law firm commercials makes me really happy. For someone who is still feeling burnt through the heart, all this great information that Tony provides through this blog is exhilarating and sometimes overwhelming at the same time. I just want to say Thank you to Tony and all the Bunkerites for your stamina and unyielding desire to provide a space where people who have fallen off “The Bridge to Total Bullshit” can vent their frustrations as there is no other person who can sympathize with an ex-scio in the real world. I do hope one day we can all PARTY and meet in person without any fear or reservations and just laugh at the pathetic lies this Organization has spun. Until then my lurking for the day is done as I have to study for my Human Physiology class that makes me WANT TO DIE lol. I’ll touch back later. : ) Hugs to all the Lurkers. There are no enemies on the other side. XOXO

    • May_West

      I think you will find many never-ins around here that can sympathize almost or just as well as the exes. Many have experienced scientology’s goings on from the outside & have learned enough about the scam to really get it. Mr Ortega has helped us to really understand.

      • You’re right MW. Sympathize was the incorrect word to use. I LOVE the never-ins. It is the never-ins here at the Bunker that help us ex’s. Never-ins like Tony etc. Forever grateful : )

        • TheQueenofBulgravia

          “The feeling of sympathy emerges from the recognition that another
          person is suffering, in contrast to empathy, where the other person’s
          pain or suffering is felt. A person expresses sympathy, but
          shares empathy. The empathic feeling may be brief, and the person
          feeling it is said to “put themselves in the other person’s place.”

          Of the two, empathy is a deeper feeling, but sympathy can be just
          as honest and heartfelt. However, empathy can forge a deeper and more
          meaningful connection, thus serving as a bridge for greater
          communication between individuals or between a leader and his or her
          followers.”

          A REAL Bridge, a FREE Bridge, a PRICELESS Bridge!!!

          “The basis for both sympathy and empathy is compassion, a blending of
          understanding and acceptance of others that can be seen as being derived
          or enhanced by knowledge and wisdom.

          Compassion recognizes the “me” in “you,” the shared commonality
          of feelings between individuals. Both sympathy and empathy imply caring
          for another person, but with empathy, the caring is enhanced or expanded
          by being able to feel the other person’s emotions.”

          http://www.diffen.com/difference/Empathy_vs_Sympathy

          https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/1c/cd/94/1ccd94b5d679530d892d44a83d5577d5.jpg

  • Vanfan

    Will Smith has to be like, the whitest black dude of all time. oops time doesn’t exist. …the whitest black dude ever… oops again.

    • anoni81b4u

      As a fan of Bryant Gumall, I ask you to retract that statement.

      • LongtimeLurker

        What about Wayne Brady (I actually really like him, but still…)

        • anoni81b4u

          Ah, I also like Wayne Brady. He is a really funny and talented man. But his whiteness PALES (pun intended) in comparison with Mr. Gumball.

        • Nat-lificent
          • flyonthewall

            RUN BITCH! GET HELP!

            • Nat-lificent

              “I make Bryant gumball look like Malcolm X, huh, Motherfucka?”

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Beat me to it.

          • LongtimeLurker

            That was great.

      • Hingle McCringleberry

        He makes Wayne Brady look like Malcolm X.

    • Nat-lificent

      Full disclosure: I still like Will Smith. He entertains me. I wish he would yank his family out of Scientolgy’s influence. I would celebrate.

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oazFK9awniE

      • EnthralledObserver

        Never felt more devastated finding out Will was ensnared within $cio… 🙁

      • i-Betty

        I have a ‘thing’ for Jimmy Fallon. Y’know, a ‘thing’.

        • Nat-lificent

          Oh, I know that ‘thing’

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X ALERT***
    Comments are being buried so quickly these days that I need to remind you about the onslaught from the clams on CL
    See my previous post and take action,
    Can a kind RedXer post a reminder later, my shift is way over, time for bed.
    http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/08/ryan-hamiltons-plan-to-consolidate-his-lawsuits-against-scientology-rehabs-is-denied/#comment-1842564695
    RedX Alert by Aegerprimo,:. https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/13156434624/in/set-72157642802079293

    • LongtimeLurker

      That’s partly my fault.

      I’ll stop.

      Maybe I should go outside. See if it’s still there.

      • Pierrot

        for penance, you can post some reminders later!
        thanks

        • LongtimeLurker

          I will.

          I can just cut and paste yours right?

          • Pierrot

            You must right click & copy links for the links separately, you can not take the whole discus comment & paste it, it will not copy the link properly. that is why you must do it in separate steps.
            What i do is to copy/paste and assemble in a word processor (in my case ms word) and then copy/paste the whole thing in discus. I have still to reformat it a bit as discuss has got its own mind about breaking the lines (new line breaks)
            Have fun 🙂

            • LongtimeLurker

              Done and DONE!

      • Nat-lificent

        What’s this “outside” you speak of?

        • LongtimeLurker

          I went there. Meh.

  • anoni81b4u

    Joy Villa
    She picks clothes like she picks religions
    SHITIDLY (If LRH can make up words, so can I !)

    • Mark

      Another gaggle of silly tarts who believe God is a cash-register. They’d be better off ‘ministering’ to the likes of the dread John ‘prosperity gospel’ Avanzini…

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Silly tarts. I love Brits.

    • LongtimeLurker

      How far back through her images did you go?

      I spent almost 10 minutes going down that rabbit hole.

      • beauty for ashes

        Her fashion assaults you personally like that friend who’s drinks you always end up paying for!

        • LongtimeLurker

          I think I’m that guy in my circle.

          It’s funny, despite my best intentions I often feel an unwanted burst of disdain on initial cyber-contact with Scientologists. I push it aside, but still.

          Anyway, after that’s dealt with, the more I learn about them, the worse I feel for them*. Which is what happened when I went through her FB images.

          Still thinking of doing a collage of them, though.

          *This does NOT apply to Grant Cardone. I just thoroughly loathe him.

          • beauty for ashes

            LOL L.L.! You have very astute observations, I’m really enjoying your comments!

            • LongtimeLurker
            • beauty for ashes

              Alright now you’re melting my heart too? I think you’ll do just fine here L.L.!

            • LongtimeLurker

              Bunker = Best community on the web. xxx

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              😛 We don’t care. We don’t care.

          • TheQueenofBulgravia

            Dear Longtime, Although We/we have postulated about hanging out on “Single Awareness Day”, Feb 14, We are afraid there may never be “A Time For Us”! We do not want to burst your disdain by assaulting it with Our Bleeding Edge Fashion. It seems you only like pointy metal weapons to have bleeding edges! 🙁

            It happens that Joy and I are Identical Twins and Momma dresses Us alike. Unlike “beauty for ashes” whom you have caused to girlishly giggle, We do not think your observations are astute or as cute as she does. Maybe you want to invite her to Your Villa to peruse your etchings on the 14th!
            The Villa Villa Gate is locked to you.
            Jill Villa
            JOY VILLA and JILL VILLA
            http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-y1pg-Kh7HHE/UOSK04WZlwI/AAAAAAAAAYE/lLLLs_Mg_rA/s1600/60840_10152359940730160_1042690147_n.jpg

            http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-JFG5MPhBuuU/UOSK0LarIOI/AAAAAAAAAX8/4WsRnxEURMs/s1600/537716_10152359939380160_1773716109_n.jpg

            • LongtimeLurker

              I don’t know what to say.

              I’m going to mail myself a secret Valentine to make me feel better.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              😛 We really don’t care. We really don’t care.

            • beauty for ashes

              Dear Queen, I have both defended and criticized Joy Villa’s fashion choices.
              If I have offended you in any way I apologize. 🙂

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              Dear beauty, We have a secret…We are not really Joy Villa’s Twin, and except for previous photos here from a $ci Event, We’d never heard of her.
              No offense given, or received, and no apology needed! ….We were cyber-playing with that naughty LongtimeLurker, whose Italian Half magnetizes Admirers. We/we seem to be just notations in his Journal, as he has now sent a poem to Vaquera! We/we Proper Ladies deserve Commitment! We/we shall console each other! (((( bfa+QB )))) 😉

    • LongtimeLurker

      She spelled #postulate as #postlate halfway through her 2nd paragraph.

      Okay, now I really am going outside.

    • ed inthehouse

      Anyone remember TLC’s “What Not To Wear”? Stacy and Clinton would have their work cut out for them with this one.

    • Vaquera

      Joy with Kelly Osbourne…
      http://instagram.com/p/y3GzqNGktA/

      • Jimmy3

        I’d love to see the construction goin on behind that fence.

        • Vaquera

          Don’t forget to wear protection….in the construction area.

          • Jimmy3

            Hard hat. Got it.

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Some folks call it a Jimmy hat.

            • Jimmy3

              Seriously? It all makes so much sense now…

      • beauty for ashes

        Omg please Kelly critique this on Fashion Police! Or help her, her goddamn nipple covers look like they’re peeling off.

        • Vaquera

          They look like circular fabric band aids that were cut to fit and now they are fraying.

          • Jimmy3

            I thought they were band aids.

            • Vaquera

              Now I need ocular band aids.

          • beauty for ashes

            **cracking up** why are we talking so much about “#Joy’s Wonky Nipple Escapade” **sigh**
            I know people who do burlesque and there are about eleventy billion better solutions for this problem.

        • LongtimeLurker

          She did NOT think this through. She should have…

          Nope. I don’t know where to even start.

          • beauty for ashes

            I did a long post about it. she has options! although not anymore!

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, I would have thought lots of options. Back at home. Now…not so many. She could postulate something? Poor love.

          • Jimmy3

            I disagree. I think someone who cuts up plastic fencing and garbage bags to makes dresses out of has put way too much thought into it.

            • beauty for ashes

              This would have been a better choice! F5

            • LongtimeLurker

              Grumpy Cat pasties may be the crowning achievment of our society.

            • Jimmy3

              I’m onto you meow.

            • beauty for ashes

              Crap! I just thought they were the funniest, maybe you’d rather have clovers or cookie monsters. There I go being crazy cat lady again. F5

      • Nat-lificent

        Well this is her payoff, pics with “stars”

      • Sejanus

        Normally I am a big fan of a good see through dress…

        when there is something worth seeing.

        This time…not so much.

      • Bavarian Rage

        Beyond tacky. Scientologists regged so po’ they can only afford to wear the plastic that holds those 6-pack pop cans together. Actually I think this “Emperor-has-no-clothes” dress-wanna-be is an excellent metaphor of Scientology – trying to pass itself off as something cutting edge, splenderific, when in actuality it’s just a whole lot of nothing.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      The “Puked Upon by Plato’s Closet” look is SOOOOO 2013.

      • Plotinus

        lol:)

    • aquaclara

      Nice posts ….thanks for the entertainment…

  • would somebody be kind enough to email (just add hotmaildotcom to my avavtar name) me [or post here] good quality grabs of this story from the Enquirer

    http://www.nationalenquirer.com/celebrity/world-exclusive-end-john-travolta-kelly-preston

    • Unex Skcus

      Link just redirects to radaronline… ?

      • from me it links to a new new page showing a copy of the Enquirer UK addition… nothing else – you can’t access the US site from the UK

    • anoni81b4u

      The whole world knows the guy is gay as a three dollar bill.
      His wife, with all her scientology training, still doesn’t know.

      • famewhoring>husband bumming

      • Sejanus

        She knows.
        It means she can bang whomever she wants and he can’t do squat about it as she plays a good little beard.

    • Robert Eckert

      check your inbox

  • Panopea Abrupta

    • Observer

      ..

      • 1subgenius

        forgive, but that image always reminds me of this.People have had lengthy and deep discussions of its meanings, for real. The opening line itself is breathtaking in it’s raw impact::
        “I Palindrome I”

        Someday mother will die and I’ll get the money
        Mom leans down and says, “My sentiments exactly,
        You son of a bitch”
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
        The head on the opposite side (snake head)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)

        See that bulletproof dress hanging from the clothesline
        See the medical chart with the random zig-zag
        Now I’ll help it decide
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
        The head on the opposite side (snake head)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)

        “Son I am able,” she said “though you scare me.”
        “Watch,” said I
        “Beloved,” I said “watch me scare you though.” said she,
        “Able am I, Son.”

        See the spring of the grandfather clock unwinding
        (Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age)
        See the hands of my offspring making windmills
        (Egad, a base tone denotes a bad age)
        Dad palindrome Dad
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        I palindrome I (I palindrome I)
        And I am a snake head eating (snake head)
        The head on the opposite side (snake head)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        I palindrome I (manonam)
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DAnHlOLAn0

        • beauty for ashes

          I think I’m going to have a lengthy discussion with myself on this! Very interesting song.

      • Robert Eckert
        • Sidney18511

          Even though I hate snakes that vid makes me sad.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      He is using the little boys urinal.

  • nottrue

    Grammys can’t wait…

    • Vaquera

      Here we go!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Tom Cruize at the Baftas. Caught a satellite feed of the event. However, the Spacemans use a dichroic filter, or interference filter, and were startled to see the true / real image being broadcast.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Re the Loehwing post.. ewww??? Dad, I think we should just be friends..

    • beauty for ashes

      I know.. barf. talk about scionausea!

  • anoni81b4u

    I thought this was funny

    • stillgrace2

      Can’t read the small text and the image doesn’t zoom larger like Mark’s shoops. What are they saying? Thanks.

      • Jimmy3

        It’s a spoof on the old Apple commercials. One says, “I’m a Christian.” The other, “I’m an atheist.”
        In the next panel, a third guy says “I’m a Scientologist.”
        Then the Christian and the atheist beat him up.
        “Uniting People Everywhere.”

      • Jimmy3

        http://ucp.totfarm.com/pics/pic_12021457455961.jpg

        I don’t know why I typed it out instead of just posting it. That was such a waste of time.

    • aegerprimo

      Can’t read. Do you have a better resolution image?

    • LongtimeLurker

      It’s funny cause it’s trooo-ooo

  • chukicita

    Perhaps someone else has also mentioned it…I watched the live stream of earlier Grammys (the ones that aren’t going to be on TV) – Chick Corea’s acceptance speech thanked everyone from his wife to Mozart to Miles Davis, but didn’t mention Hubbard at all.

    • LongtimeLurker

      I think you’ll find that’s because Hubbard WAS Mozart in a previous life.

      And Chick Corea’s wife.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Beck wins Best Rock Album.

    • Jimmy3

      Well at least one Scientologist there has a BRA

  • LongtimeLurker

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***

    LL for Pierrot.

    Scientology has ramped up their Cragslisting to unprecendented levels.

    Obviously orders have come down from on high to counter all the post-Sundance press around Gibney’s film.

    We’re keeping them busy, so let’s keep the pressure on.

    RedX write up: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. If you have the time: extend your reach to the rest of your area and even the rest of North
    America.

    http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7313/16290794338_fd8fb81833_b.jpg

    • LongtimeLurker

      DAMMIT, my bold went away.

      Sorry everyone.

      • Pierrot

        Bold = text without the spaces like that Bold

        • LongtimeLurker

          Yeah, I dunno what happened to my brain.

          I think people still saw it. I hope. Have you checked CL? How’d we do?

          • Pierrot

            Not Good, way down, I do not know why! 🙁

    • Eileen

      Nice job lurker!

      • LongtimeLurker

        De nada.

        Not much we can do down here in Oz, just tryin’ to pull my weight.

    • aquaclara

      Thank you! It’s time for all of us to ramp this up. I hope everyone will think about blaming some spam this week. If you don’t have a ton if time, think about picking just one or two regions. Every bit helps.

      Four weeks to go….we can do this.

  • Panopea Abrupta

    $cientology: you are so ’50’s in everything you do.
    If you wanna attract a better class of alien than El Wrong,
    ya gotta try harder.
    I’m gonna give this a 5.5.
    Nah, that’s not an ice-skating judge’s score – it’s a percentage.

  • Jimmy3

    John Goodman, lookin good, man.

  • nottrue
    • Jimmy3

      He’s a dentist, isn’t he? Calling dentist.

    • He has Beautiful teeth.

  • LongtimeLurker

    Dearest Joy Villa, please consider this suggestion for your next outing.
    F5/Refresh

    • Nat-lificent

      Nice placement

  • beauty for ashes

    I can see here if she just had proper undergarments/lining how this would have been cool.( F5)
    Joy Villa Pictures in Image search:
    http://www.bing.com/images/search?pq=joy+v&sc=8-5&sp=1&sk=&q=joy+villa&qft=+filterui:age-lt1440&FORM=R5IR33#view=detail&id=9D678E2B84784A9401BC830992D2E01A0F08F504&selectedIndex=19

    • Nat-lificent
      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        How do you calibrate those?

        • Nat-lificent

          *slap*

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Hey, I get enough of that from Baby.

            • Nat-lificent

              Baby’s busy, I’m filling in 😉

          • I dunno if a slap would calibrate ’em, probably some gentle fiddling.

            • Nat-lificent

              Depends of what you’re into XD

            • Well i’m certainly not into e-meter nip covers! 😀

        • Eileen

          Lol

      • L. C. Spencer

        Joseph Smith is scandalized. Or jealous.

    • Bavarian Rage

      Wondering how plasticky, crinkley she must have sounded when she walked, uncrossed her legs, or adjusted her position in any way. Must’ve been really comfortable to sit in for hours on end. Such is the price for attention seeking.

  • stillgrace2

    Off-topic, however, I’d like to mention the documentary “Alive Inside- A Story of Music and Memory” because it mentions volunteers that are the polar opposite of scientology’s volunteer ministers. Also, some of you may know someone who has dementia, and this may help. Plus, it’s Sunday.

    Research has revealed that Altzheimer’s and other dementia diseases actually do not damage the part of the brain that processes music. When patients suffering from dementia listen to the music they loved from their past, it ignites their memories and energizes them beyond belief. They literally come back to the world. The joy they experience is very uplifting.

    It’s available to stream on Netflix and it might bring you to tears (I’m guilty). The goal of these volunteers is to bring this therapy to all of the five million people suffering from dementia in nursing homes in the United States.
    This documentary is an extrapolation of the youtube video that went viral a couple of years ago about a patient named Henry and his remarkable transformation. I highly recommend it!

    • Nat-lificent

      ^^^^ I’ve heard of this. I bet it helps ‘deprogram’ people from cults too.

      • beauty for ashes

        Tory Christman talks a lot about helping recover people with music from their pre scientology days.

        • Nat-lificent

          Yup, there are several vids where she credits listening to The Stones etc. with helping her remember her true personality

          • beauty for ashes

            How are you doing that with your avatar? I see two different ones on the same page?

            • Nat-lificent

              Cool. I have no idea. I’m just messing with it to tease superpowerwog

            • so mean so mean : ) Mine is still not working

            • Nat-lificent

              I have a streak in me

          • Though probably not ‘under my thumb’?

    • beauty for ashes

      The trailer is transcendant, thanks for this. I got full body chills and tears with smiles.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IaB5Egej0TQ

    • Illinoisian

      This film is inspiring and everyone who has someone in his/her life who suffers from dementia should be aware of how this therapy can help. The web site that describes the music therapy used in the film and gives info on how to help forward this work is here
      http://musicandmemory.org/

  • OT: Disqus is being a little b**** to me. Is anyone else having issues with changing their Avatar pic?

    • Nat-lificent

      No just you . . . oh god! My beautiful face!

      • lolol….gggrrrrr…its just a back of the head pic. Can’t be that bad. : )

        • Nat-lificent

          😀

      • I didn’t see your Avatar change when I replied. Yeah its my Disqus.

  • LongtimeLurker

    As a peace offering to Joy-lovers I offer this very approving article of her Grammy dress.

    http://www.intouchweekly.com/posts/joy-villa-just-won-the-grammys-plus-7-more-of-the-craziest-looks-so-far-51228

    • Observer

      I doubt there are any Joy lovers here. I do think there are quite a few run-Joy-run-Scientology-won’t-help-you-it-will-destroy-you-ers here though.

      • beauty for ashes

        I identify with the latter, bordering sometimes on sisterly admonition. I feel like I want to guide her.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The Queen of Bulgravia seems… enamored… of Joy.

    • Vaquera

      “Chiquita Banana on steroids.” Ha!

  • TheCommodeDoor

    6:58 P.T. “The Age of Answers” was just on KNBC channel 4 during the break between the local news and Dateline NBC

    • Jenny Daniels

      What they have failed to explain is : what’re the damned questions.

  • Observer

    And here we have it: Joy Villa just wants attention. I know it’s a terrible shock. I plan to pay her no more attention after this, unless the Go Fug Yourself girls snark about her.

    http://www.dailynews.com/events/20150208/grammys-2015-joy-villa-wears-dress-made-of-recycled-material-on-red-carpet

    • LongtimeLurker

      LongtimeLurker does not condone this link.

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Oh no, you just went third person. Time for more air. Next, you’ll have gone plaid.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Never go full plaid.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Or horizontal stripes.

    • Panopea Abrupta

      Joy was unconfined.
      Unfortunately.

    • Jimmy3

      I won’t stand for scantily clad women. It’s embarrassing. Don’t get me wrong: I have absolutely no problem with it. I just need a minute or two before I stand up. That’s all.

      • Observer

        Incorrigible!

        • Robert Eckert

          So don’t incorrige him!

  • Jimmy3

    ….

    • Nat-lificent

      <3 it!

    • grundoon

      Jimmy3 wins 47 internets!

  • Vaquera

    Joy is a meme and she’s thrilled….
    http://instagram.com/p/y3U6yrGklf/

    • Nat-lificent

      So does becoming the butt of internet jokes for four hours count as a successful postulate?
      Edit: 3.5 hours
      Edit: 2 hours
      Edit: Sorry, Joy, it’s already over

      • Jimmy3

        She’s not a goddamn … oh. nvm.

        • Nat-lificent

          When Sci falls she is going to be there on any show that will have her spilling her guts and making up stories of how they abused her. You can tell she’s a survivor — like cockroaches. You gotta admire that in her town and her line of “work”

          • Jimmy3

            Cockroaches show up in garbage bags, too. That’s so mean.

      • Observer

        Any attention is good attention, apparently.

        • Nat-lificent

          “I hope I end up on both (best and worst dressed) lists,” she said. “If people love it or hate it, it doesn’t matter to me.” Joy Villa

          • Observer

            Scientology: it’s all so aesthetic!

            • Sherbet

              The dress is pretty much an allegory for scientology: It’s recycled, it’s flashy but has no substance, it’s flimsy, if you look closely, its faults are laid bare.

      • Sherbet

        It’s pretty bad when her dress makes Madonna’s getup look tasteful by comparison.

      • Vaquera

        Her quote:
        “I hope I end up on both (best and worst dressed) lists,” she said. “If people love it or hate it, it doesn’t matter to me.”

        • Jimmy3

          I’m kinda on the fence about it.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Burn!

        • Sherbet

          People with solid careers don’t have to dress like highway projects.

          • Bavarian Rage

            Bam!

          • Jimmy3

            I’m done making stupid jokes about this. “dress like highway projects” just won it all.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks. I’m pretty much done with Ms. Villa, myself.

          • Nat-lificent

            But not everyone has talent and/or connections yet they still want to play “FAME”. She’s dealing the hand she’s got. This is why I make fun of her but I don’t actually hate ‘er for her stunts. Don’t get me wrong, I would never befriend her or anything. She’s got to be a RAGING narcissist.

            Edit: Also, done. No more ’bout her from me.

            • Sherbet

              I agree, and I think of the people who really are part of the music world looking at Ms. Naked Tangerine on the red carpet and thinking, “Who the hell is that?” and not in a good way.

            • madame duran

              Who was that lady singing with Tom Jones earlier in the evening? She basically looked like she was wearing Ms. Villa’s dress but in black. Not erotic or tantalizing at all. Full of fug. Where has the sense of mysterious allure in fashion gone?

            • LongtimeLurker

              Instagram is the home of raging narcissists but even there her feed stands out.

              Having said that her selfies are well above the general Instagram standard, so you kind of forget that this is someone posting more often than a Kardashian.

        • Nat-lificent

          She’s what Hollywoodland is made of — tough as nails bitches that will show their snatch at the most opportune moment. [This is not criticism — just honest observation]

    • LongtimeLurker

      Can someone who’s on Farcebook tell me if the Scientologists are chattering about this as a ‘win’?

      I tried to make an account just now, but it kept repeating “there was an error, try again”.

      Very informative Zuckerberg, you bastard.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        They have an SP filter tech. Works with the latest e-meter. Cam also tell if prawns are bad.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Ah well, I wouldn’t want to be in a social network that would have a person like me as a member.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            You are to tough on yourself. If FB has a blacklist we wanna be on it!

    • Ruby

      It reminds me of a failed designer on Project Runway.

      “My Eyes!”

      • L. C. Spencer

        “The goggles do nothing!”

      • LongtimeLurker

        Please tell me, I’m sure I know, but I just can’t recall. I’m about to cheat and Google it.

        • Ruby

          Phoebe is an episode of Friends, looking out the window at Monica and Chandler in building across the street. 🙂

    • Vaquera

      There’s always some random Z-lister who grabs all the headlines at awards ceremonies.”
      http://www.dailystar.co.uk/showbiz/424566/Grammys-2015-Joy-Villa-red-carpet

    • madame duran

      I think she could use a couple of pylons for a cone bra. At least they’ll be colour matched.

      • Newiga

        I bet she can find those from Home Depo too. Traffic cones, for exapmple would go well with the dress.

  • RMycroft

    I was reading some older Associated Press articles that I’ve indexed, and this one gave me a chuckle:

    German, U.S. officials to address controversial Church of Scientology February 15, 1997, Associated Press

    German Scientologists like Gerhard Haag, who attended Duve’s news conference to complain, contend the church is a true religion that does not try to control its members’ minds and pocketbooks, as critics claim.

    Haag told Duve that he was forced to flee his native country several years ago because of harassment that forced him to sell his business. “The banks wouldn’t extend credit to me any more. I couldn’t do business any more just because I am a Scientologist,” he said.

    But, Scientologists are bad credit risks. And the Scientologist formerly known as Gerhard Haag is more known for his expensive robotic parking garages that double as car-crushers. That might explain the name change to Royce Savoy Monteverdi‎.

    Category:Gerhard Haag

  • Tony Ortega

    Todd Tomorrow, drop me a line on email, please.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Done!

      • Tony Ortega

        I got nothin’.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Sorry, typed in tonyortega94, instead of tonyo94.

  • Jimmy3

    Beck just won Album of the Year.

    • Ruby

      Of course the cherch will take all the credit for that.

    • Observer

      What is this, 1994?

    • Nat-lificent

      Maybe the Grammys aren’t that relevant anymore . . . hmmm.

      • Jimmy3

        What the hell is a Grammy? Is that what I’m watching?

      • You mean the MTV music awards

      • Jimmy3

        And the next presenter is international superstar Shia Lebeouf. What were you saying about relevance??? Hmm??

        • Nat-lificent

          Shia LeBarf! Whaa? Well, that’s a different story. Side note: I was unlucky enough to see that video of him and the little animal girl. He can’t act even with no lines. To be fair though, most actors say working with chimps is hard.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I liked that nude video he did.

            • LongtimeLurker

              He said he liked yours as well.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Never danced naked but was an naked art model. Harder job than you think! Life drawing, I did two back to fronts because the other guy never showed up.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I have ugly feet.

          • Jimmy3

            Speaking of animals, the new Android commercial is some cheap ass voodoo. Of course I love it, and everyone will love it, because everyone that’s not a monster loves cute animals. It’s blatant emotional manipulation, and it’s infuriating to be fully aware of a scheme and still fall for it. But just look at these little guys:

            http://youtu.be/vnVuqfXohxc

            • Nat-lificent

              Dammit. Cute. Android branding working. Arghhh.
              Edit: “Furever” further brand indoctrination accomplished . . .

            • LongtimeLurker

              I just grew ovaries. And then they exploded.

              “Soft things know that soft things should be softed.” is how my ex described animal friendships.

              When we broke up she stole my dog.

            • Nat-lificent

              Sorry about your dog, man

            • LongtimeLurker

              Thanks. I was heartbroken. 2 years ago and I still tear up when I see a pug in the street.

              I miss the good parts of the human relationship too of course, I’m not a total infant.

            • Nat-lificent

              Oh, pug! My pomchi Tyrion is best friends with a pug. Adorable

            • LongtimeLurker

              His name is Razzle.

              What’s your Pomchi go by?

            • Nat-lificent

              Tyrion the Bold (not joking)

            • LongtimeLurker

              Lol

            • Jimmy3

              You won’t be laughing when he takes the Iron Throne, you fool! But you might laugh when he lifts his leg and pees on it first.

            • Nat-lificent

              *nodding*

            • Nat-lificent

              Okay, I have to go shoop that now. Goodnight Bunker.

            • Jimmy3

              Can’t wait. Night

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I have three, Greyhounds they are such gentle, mellow creatures. Lora, Jet & GiGi.

            • Jimmy3

              Sorry about your dogs, man. But you should try to get the good one back.

            • LongtimeLurker

              God you’re funny. (Sincerely)

              Believe it or not a solicitor (lawyer in US) friend of mine said he could totally get him back for me. But I decided that there was already too much bad karma/vibes/juju flying around and I was better off away from it.

              And she’s taking good care of him, so you know…

              Also, it’s not like I was in an abusive cult, so shut up LL.

            • Nat-lificent

              You’ll pug again, I mean love 😉

            • LongtimeLurker

              It’s better to have pugged and lost…

            • Nat-lificent

              Lol

            • Jimmy3

              I wasn’t in an abusive cult, either. I’m Irish Catholic, and I spilled my beer trying to type this.

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, but I think maybe a couple of others on here might have known someone who was, onetime.

              So I should feel lucky, is all.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I know a couple who went to court over their Boxer dog.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Yeah, I’d rather be “that guy who lost his dog” than one half of “that couple who sued each other over their dog”.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I’m very loyal to my dogs and if somebody tried to take one of them away in site, I’d have no choice but to unfair game them!

            • awwwww. I got the fuzzies : )

            • SBC

              Gimme that monkey! Sweet. Watched it 3x so far.

            • Frodis73

              Too cute. I’m sold.

        • LongtimeLurker

          How come HE isn’t a Scientologist? That would make perfect sense.

          • Nat-lificent

            *spit take*

            • LongtimeLurker

              Love your constantly changing avatar.

            • Nat-lificent

              I’m trying on outfits.

            • Nat-lificent

              I’ll stop now

            • LongtimeLurker

              You’ve got a big wardrobe.

          • he always likes to go full on method which even scared Miscavige….

            • A male remake of All About Eve?

              “Fasten your seat belts, it’s going to be an entheta-filled ride tonight!”

          • Todd Tomorrow

            We’ll that is a plus!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Have award shows ever been?

    • Vaquera

      And then there was a scientology commercial. Weird.
      https://twitter.com/bygays/status/564635581284892672

      • Nat-lificent

        Those Young Gays sound bright.

      • everyone should tweet/comment/post to Jay Z/Beyonce that scientology ACTUALLY WAS behind the Grammy fix

        • Jimmy3

          What are you talking about? Is this a thing?

          • I think you might have missed the last word in the tweet

            • Jimmy3

              Oh. I did see that but I didn’t connect it to what you were saying. I was also hoping there was a “Scientology fixed the Grammy’s” conspiracy theory going around. It would be fun.

              But that Sam Smith guy was the big winner, not Beck. And no one seems to care that he ripped off Tom Petty.

            • from todays CDAN

            • Tom issued a statement recently addressing the issue:

              Legend Tom Petty has taken to his official website to issue a very cordial statement to finally address his recent legal victory over the similarities between Smith’s “Stay With Me” and Petty’s “I Won’t Back Down” (end result: Smith agreed to give co-writing credit for “Stay With Me” to Petty and Jeff Lynne).

              Petty stresses that “these things can happen,” and that above all, the entire incident was “a musical accident.” This whole thing just really reinforces our adoration of Petty, guys. :’) Read the entire statement below.

              “About the Sam Smith thing. Let me say I have never had any hard feelings toward Sam. All my years of songwriting have shown me these things can happen. Most times you catch it before it gets out the studio door but in this case it got by. Sam’s people were very understanding of our predicament and we easily came to an agreement. The word lawsuit was never even said and was never my intention. And no more was to be said about it. How it got out to the press is beyond Sam or myself. Sam did the right thing and I have thought no more about this. A musical accident no more no less. In these times we live in this is hardly news. I wish Sam all the best for his ongoing career. Peace and love to all.”

              https://myspace.com/article/2015/01/29/tom-petty-statement-sam-smith-accident

            • Jimmy3

              But that’s bullshit, because if it was no big deal and merely a situation of “these things happen,” there would not have been a lawsuit or any settlement. I give Tom Petty the benefit of the doubt when he says he didn’t intend for it to be a news story or a lawsuit. I’m guessing others with credits on those tracks wanted their due. And they deserve it.

            • Tom has been rather liberal about people copying him, but apparently this went too far, and, as you point out, others were being ripped off as well, so it wasn’t his decision to make alone, and it probably wasn’t. And the co-writing credit is all about the $$$, which Tom might not need, but is justice served for all of them, IMHO.

              Now, you do notice he didn’t disavowal that lawyers weren’t involved, or that strongly worded letters weren’t sent.

              Good lawyers don’t start out with lawsuit right out of the gate, especially when plagiarism is so blatant and actionable in the first place. All you need a a decent musical expert who can explain to a jury the mechanics of the plagiarism, and it’s game, set, and match.

              I think he’s giving this guy another chance, whether he takes it or not, that’s another question altogether.

            • coonellie

              I’ve been wanting to ask you this forever…do you ever sleep?

            • Jimmy3

              Sometimes, yeah.

            • coonellie

              Sweet dreams whence you sleep again.

            • Jimmy3

              Thanks. Good chat.

            • classy

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Poor Scion, Stacy Francis will she ever win Best Album from A Dangerous space cult member.

  • Age of Answers is on Bay Area

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Ha Ha!

  • madame duran

    I was watching the Grammys (and flipping between it and viewing “The Hunger Games” on another channel) and when I saw that Beck won Album of the Year, I was like “WTF?”. Not just because he’s a Scientologist but like, really, I don’t think it was the best album. I give up on award shows. The only redeeming thing from tonight’s show was seeing Annie Lennox perform!!!!!

    • LongtimeLurker

      Love her. What song did she do?

    • Robert Eckert

      I was completely unaware that he even had a new album out. Not that I am always hep to what the cool kids are bopping to these days, but I would have expected to have some song from the Best Album of the Year inflicted on my eardrums at some point.

  • I think I just died and went to heaven. Who sings this “Take me to Church” song?

    • NVM….Hozier.aaaah! He’s cute! : )

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Tough Rollie and the Rythm Pits.

  • cleaning up some folders… here’s a couple of Gaiman pics… I don’t know the timescale of his involvement but I wonder if he ever discussed scientology with Adams {yes, yes, he did that’s where Adams got all his batshit craziness from when describing the universe… possibly, Ed}

  • RED X RED RED X

    https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. If you have the time: extend your reach to the rest of your area and even the rest of North
    America.

    • Thanks AP

    • LongtimeLurker

      Sorry, didn’t scroll up before I hit post.

      • No worries. I haven’t seen anyone post at this time for awhile so since I was up “Studying” figured I would : )

        • LongtimeLurker

          I planned on doing it every couple of hours, but I got distracted for a bit by dropping Scientology comments into threads about Princess Joy Villa.

    • Pierrot

      Thanks for helping SPW.
      There are some tips for posting in the Manual tab of the spread sheet, towards the end after the “trawling write up”.

    • Pierrot

      Hi SPW,
      I hope that we can count on you for tonight and for as many nights as possible.
      You are just in time for helping us as, Panopea informs me that she will be away from Friday the 13th feb to 2nd of March and I will be also in a difficult wifi and schedule situation from the 12th feb to when my Internet provider can move my line to a new address, although I can do some travelling to a friend!
      Let me know on his thread how you can help and coordinate with LongtimeLurker
      Thanks

    • Pierrot

      Hi SPW,

      I do not know where about you are, I suspect Australia , the same for LongtimeLurker, I am in South Africa.
      We speak New York Time or (EST=East coast Standard Time, or in winter EDT=Eastcoast Daylight saving Time).
      around 4:30 am I do the DayEnd reports, and post some results and whatever I feel need to be said.
      Dodo Post a reminder at 7am or when the new post from Tony O comes up.
      Panopea posts her reminder at 12:30pm which is fine as nothing much happens in EST morning and our 1st trawling of the day is at 12:30pm, there after the trawling happens every 2 hours.
      I do my supposedly last post at 16:30 (4:30pm est) before retiring.
      Thanks for the help carry on.
      You can talk to LL here: http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/08/ryan-hamiltons-plan-to-consolidate-his-lawsuits-against-scientology-rehabs-is-denied/#comment-1843106113

      • Super Power Wog

        Pierrot I was going through my comments out of boredom and I noticed for some reason I have been missing your posts to me. I apologize I didn’t not reply. Not sure what happened. I’m going to move this convo over to WWP at the thread there.

  • LongtimeLurker

    Hey Nightshift, before I sign off, a reminder;

    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***
    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***
    *** RED X +–+ Reminder +–+ RED X ***

    The Craigslist ads are at an all time high.

    Orders have come down from above (4ft 13″ above) for the spammers to counter the press around Gibney’s film, the Leah Remini litigation, and the foot-bullet of the Critic’s Letter.

    All they have is their TV ads and spamming CL.

    Don’t let them have it easy. We’re keeping them busy, so let’s keep the pressure on.

    RedX write up: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    1. Please concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Please use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, please RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily WIP regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. If you have the time: please consider extending your reach to the rest of your area and even the rest of North
    America.

    Happy hunting, for Kyle, Lisa and the others.

    Love, LL

    • Robert Eckert
      • LongtimeLurker

        Can a USer please explain what ‘child welfare history’ means in this phrase – “If you have a criminal record or child welfare history, please do not apply.”

        • coonellie

          My guess…someone who didn’t pay child support and had the State go after them. Garnished wages, etc.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Right, I thought that. Just checking, wondering if it was something more offensive.

            Thank you.

            • coonellie

              Pleasure. Love your posts.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          …, but doesn’t sound good. Filling out job applications? How many sprogs do you have?

          • LongtimeLurker

            Ah not me ; ) was just in the CL ad that Robert Eckert linked. I just like to have as much random knowledge as possible.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I like your politics.

            • LongtimeLurker

              Gotta care, brother.

    • Pierrot

      Thanks mate, keep it going text for bold, NO SPACES
      replace the b by u for underline, or s for strike through.
      There are some tips for posting in the Manual tab of the spread sheet, towards the end after the “trawling write up”.

    • Pierrot

      HI LL,
      I hope that we can count on you for tonight and for as many nights as possible.
      You are just in time for helping us as, Panopea informs me that she will be away from Friday the 13th feb to 2nd of March and I will be also in a difficult wifi and schedule sitution from the 12th feb to when my Internet provider can move my line to a new address, although I can do some travelling to a friend!
      Let me know on his thread how you can help and coordinate with Super Power Wog.
      Thanks

      • LongtimeLurker

        You bet. How I can help is…what do you need?

        Also, tell me how often you want reminders, I mean I know it’s partly based on # of comments, but on a standard night, hourly? Every second hour?

        • Pierrot

          Thanks LL, every 2nd hours will be find. For the time being only reminders, we are OK for the ad trawling & reporting, most of it is automatized.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Cool. Does my shift start now?

            • Pierrot

              Yep!

    • Pierrot

      Hi LL,
      I guess that you are somewhere in Australia, I am in South Africa.
      We speak New York Time or (EST=East coast Standard Time, or in winter EDT=Eastcoast Daylight saving Time).
      around 4:30 am I do the DayEnd reports, and post some results and whatever I feel need to be said.
      Dodo Post a reminder at 7am or when the new post from Tony O comes up.
      Panopea post her reminder at 12:30pm which is fine as nothing happens in EST morning and our 1st trawling of the day is at 12:30pm, there after the trawling happens every 2 hours.
      I do my supposedly last post at 16:30 (4:30pm est) before retiring.
      Thanks for the help carry on.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Yeah, I’m in Melbourne.

        Thanks for the info.

  • Lush silly theory No 47 (part of an ongoing series)

    It’s 10 days and counting since Krustie’s tweeted (apart from a brief ‘drive by’)… now we know she recently bragged about becoming “a motherfuckin’ OT7″ on the Howard Stern Show and commentators reckon she’s on Freewinds doing OT8 but my theory is this:

    Krustie is being personally specially prepped by Miscavige as some kind of ‘Thetan bomb” to be launched on the unsuspecting press to coincide with the terrestrial broadcast of ‘Going Clear’ … the resultant WTF fuckery will be so amazingly spectacular that the HBO TV premiere will become a small footnote in that weeks media coverage.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Please let this be true. And please let her be interviewed by a serious journalist who’s done their research.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Do you Knooks get, Diane Sawyer on CNN? She really goes after religious vomit!

        • LongtimeLurker

          I from Oz. Yes, but only on cable I don’t have. I know her stuff tho’. Someone big needs to go for the throat. Except who would they interview? No spokesperson – I mean is Pouw even real?

        • love or loathe him but Piers Morgan has the balls to ask the questions most other journos wouldn’t

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I like him, as well.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Nah, she’s an overt mess. More press for the movie.

  • The Dude

    Just wanted to check in. I have been reading but not posting. I am helping a friend that owns a home heating oil company. The Dude can drive an oil delivery truck too! Can you believe it! No, really I have had my CDL for years and I drive on his regular guys days off. Super good extra money…….. But there is sooooo much snow. Driving the truck is easy compared to having to climb over six-foot snow banks with a giant hose. Trying to get up to a house that didn’t shovel a path for the “Oil Dude”!
    Sorry. Just venting after 12 hours in that damn truck!
    Fucking SNOW!
    ARRRGH!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Hopefully, you made tons of under the counter cash! I grew up in snow and don’t miss it anymore.

      • The Dude

        Yep. But it’s like blood money. It takes a toll. I should be in bed. I have to get up and do it all over tomorrow.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Think about how much blood you’ll be able to buy for your alcohol system.

          • The Dude

            I wish. More like car repairs.
            Well. A nice bottle of scotch would be nice.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Car repairs will kick you right in the nuts. I empathize with you there.
              Laters

          • LongtimeLurker

            That’s great!

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      Warm (((( Dude ))))

  • Daily Mail just put out this piece on Connor Cruise and Krustie’s daughter… talk about Sea Org and all….

    “They’ve both completed Church courses including one on leadership and competence on the huge Scientology cruise ship called Freewinds.”

    Follow us: @MailOnline on Twitter | DailyMail on Facebook

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2944918/Pet-names-cozy-dinners-hotel-chats-Tom-Cruise-s-son-Connor-comforting-Kirstie-Alley-s-daughter-Lillie-fianc-killed-motorcycle-accident-year.html

    edit… man, this is actually a half way decent article… they even give a shout out to Tony:

    “Kirstie talked about OT7 to radio DJ Howard Stern last month, saying: ‘It’s an awareness level, it’s an achievement… I think that people need to always, no matter what path they choose, the goal I hope would be to become more and more aware and less insane.’
    She also revealed that her children are Scientologists, saying: ‘It was their choice… it really helped them a lot so that’s good.’
    A former Scientology pal Tiziano Lugli was declared a ‘Suppressive Person’ after leaving and had to disconnect from a close friend – Connor.
    He says: ’[Connor and Isabella] are so protected. You can’t live a normal life if you’re Tom Cruise’s son, especially being in Scientology. There are strict ethics around them. They have staff dedicated to Tom Cruise.’
    He claimed that his last contact with Connor was on Facebook. Lugli said he wrote: ‘Man, you rock. It’s a dangerous commodity to still be friends with us. Keep your head up high and I will see you up the line, my friend.’
    Then Connor replied: ‘Ha, ha, ha, ha, I know.’ And then deleted his entire Facebook page.
    The likes of Tom and Kirstie have closed ranks since the furor over the anti-Church documentary Going Clear.
    Kirstie even took to Twitter to air her views, saying: ‘Asking a defected Scientologist about Scientology is like asking a KKK member to represent the views of white people on blacks…pure s***.’
    Tony Ortega, who stars in the Going Clear documentary and went to the Sundance Film Festival for the documentary explained more on the relationships between celebrity Scientologists.
    He said: ‘There does seem to be some “circling of the wagons” going on. Connor has gotten very close to Kirstie and her family, and with his sister Isabella seemingly back in LA, that only seems to confirm that Tom’s children are as dedicated to Scientology as ever.”

    • “Connor calls Kristy his ‘Spirit Animal'” lolol

      Which animal is that? A striped Bear?!?!?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Honey Badger.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Death Eater

      • Todd Tomorrow

        A huge sow.

      • Missionary Kid

        A leech, infected with ebola.

    • I remember being surprised at the Krustie/Connor connection back on my blog on Jan 14th… a lot of the stuff I mentioned they bought up… pretty sure one of the sub-eds got a few ideas (bastard, eh?, ed) … especially as my most recent post had the Krustie son-in-law crash which was kind of low-key…. it’s all good btw as far as I’m concerned.

      http://scientologybollocks.blogspot.co.uk/2015/01/rumours-of-travolta-trying-to-lick-his.html?q=Connor

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      Haha. Krustie as a spirit animal. I’m imagining a coked up walrus that’s just popped its beach ball, except with the dead Jedi glow like Obi-Wan Kenobi in the Empire Strikes Back.

  • mook

    Apparently cultie Beck won album of the year at the Grammys over Beyonce. Hmmm…

    • SBC

      They were holding back Kanye in the audience, too. (it was a joke)

      • Frodis73

        I don’t think it was a joke, he just ranted to E! online. Link above.

        • OMG! I just watched it! Kanye said “Beck needs to respect artistry and he should’ve given his award to Beyonce” ….

          Really Kanye???? Cuz I concur

          • Frodis73

            I freaking hate Kanye…such a dick and he thinks he’s god’s gift to the world. Total narcissist…he should join scientology!

            • He is the Richard Sherman of the music industry. But tonight his narcissism was on the right side of my bed. Kudos to Kanye for one night ONLY.

          • LongtimeLurker

            He needs to stop coming to the Grammys and just start the Kanye’s. He could give every second award to Beyonce.

            The rest would go to him, I guess.

        • SBC

          You’re right. Kanye explains why he held back. Well blow me away. I’m trying hard not to discriminate against Beck because of $cn – I don’t know what most musicians’ beliefs are when I decide if I like them or not. I’ll listen to the album and keep hoping he and Marissa and her brother Vonni get the hell outta there.

    • Frodis73

      Yes. I was a fan and bummed to find out he worships at the feet of LRH. However, I just find out Kanya West jumped on stage and almost did the same thing he did to that Taylor Swift chick. Fuck, I hate Kanye. He’s a huge douche, just like Cardone. They should meet. Kanye ranted to E! about “art” and respecting artistry. Lol, that twat wouldn’t know art if it bit him in the ass. I wouldn’t mind if he was hit by a bus.

      http://gawker.com/kim-smiles-nervously-as-kanye-delivers-his-full-beck-ra-1684611748

      • Jon Hendry

        When Beck beckoned to Kanye to come back, I imagine he was saying “Kanye! Come back! I have a free personality test for you!”

        • Frodis73

          Lol-you’re probably right!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          HaHa!!

        • in full rant flow can you imagine if as soon as he mentioned Beck someone whispered in his ear “he’s a scientologist you know” how he would have responded… a Kanye scientology rant would probably be something that could go down in history!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        “Hit by a bus”, Frodis!

        • Frodis73

          Like that? Lol,

  • bunker bonus points if you can guess the cheese

    • Jimmy3

      Red Leicester.

      • close… it’s from the UK; in fact it’s smoked double gloucester and has this quite pleasant taste that immediately reminded me of the Kedgeree I used to have for school breakfast… surprising memory that kicked in out of nowhere

        Never under estimate the power of cheese memory effectuation!

        • 1subgenius

          I am planning on smoking my own cheese. (not a joke)
          Thanks for reminding me to.
          I thought at first, how the hell do you do that without melting it. But I’ve learned how.
          Can’t wait to try.

    • Frodis73

      Looks like cheddar to me, but you are across the pond…so it’s probably not cheddar.

      • Jimmy3

        That was my first thought, so I actually googled “British Cheddar”. I thought it looked more like Leicester, but Gloucester looks similar. Apparently, the deeper the orange, the more carotene was in the cow’s system. More carotene means they’re grazing on higher quality fields, which produces better milk, and thus, better cheese. So orange = good. I’ve learned more about cheese in 20 minutes than I’ve learned in 20 years.

        And I’m pretty sure in America, we just dye our cheeses whatever color we’d like them to be. So here, orange != good.

        • Jimmy3

          Once you start looking up British cheeses at 2AM, it’s time for bed. Goodnight all.

          • Time to roll till next time. ; ) Gnite!

          • without a shadow of a doubt the most amazing taste combination in the cheese world is an aged stinky blue cheese with a glass of port – the older the both the better; it is a unique taste combination that will linger long in the memory… the fetid ‘rotten’ blue cheese smell when swallowed with a mouthful of port is a “bloody hell, amazing!” moment.

            • what’suppressive

              Good quality dark chocolate(the bitter stuff) and Cognac has that same effect on me Lush.

            • one of the best things I’ve ever tasted with [red] wine is a round dark chocolate wafer with a thin filling of “confit de vin” centre… if you can imagine a reduced sweetened red wine that becomes a confit jus (consistency of heavy treacle) that is added into a thin chocolate then you have something that actively makes you want to open another bottle of red [works equally well with white] the more you eat them… it’s extremely hard to find as it’s kind a skilled thing to make… most professional chocolate makers have heard of it but so few make it nowadays… the company that made it on my last box explained that their ‘chocolatier’ had left and opened his own restaurant…I suddenly realised that I actually tracked down a person who made chocolates I liked, lol

        • Frodis73

          How great that you just passed that knowledge to the Bunker. Sweet dreams J3!

      • I was thinking old cheddar

    • here’s cheese No 2… any guesses? (clue in the pic)

      • Eivol Ekdal

        Black Bomber Cheddar

    • Ella Raitch

      red leicester

  • Enturbulated Masterbator

    Ohhhh, the Mark Ultra meter police are goona getchu! “Ownership or use of this e-meter by anyone not in good standing with CO$ is prohibited.” Wow, I’m shaking in my $ci-ri boots!!

    And Pacific Cafe dinner hours are 5:15 to 7:00. What!? Is this Shady Pines retirement home? I don’t get started till 2 or 3pm. Damn, I will never get to taste their delicious menu items.

    • romanesco

      No doubt they’ve got ebay on the run….

  • LongtimeLurker

    So listen…I’ve been hammering twitter mentions of Beck and JoyVilla with variations on this
    “Don’t ask about the dress/Grammy, ask about the deaths and coverups in Scientology.#KyleBrennan #LisaMcpherson #ScientologyKills ”

    And no one has blocked me or banned me or whatever it’s called.

    What am I doing wrong?

    Should I try caps lock?

    Or rude pictures?

    • Jimmy3

      You have to type harder. Really pound down on those keys. Then they know you’re for serious, and they will get angry.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Good idea. I’m gonna use my elbows.

    • but who did you actually tweet?

      • LongtimeLurker

        You know…everyone. Not Kirsty, cause she didn’t say nothin. Joy’s PR agency, who were blabbering, her stylist, her friends. I just wanna get blocked one time.

        • guessing there most be loads of “congratulations” tweets and it’s late after the Grammys so pretty sure most people are drunk…. Krustie blocked me almost immediately but it took Trump almost a year… I loved replying to his tweets because it was so easy for the lulz… however only when I posted this picture (see below) was I blocked…. so, from time to time I visit his twitter page and look at all the people he tweets to embiggen himself and send them the second picture below… it amuses me to think that some of them might have added it to their phone photo album and show it to their cronies (none of them blocked me either) for the lulz from time to time

          • Frodis73

            Ewww! That’s so gross. Lol.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Ahh that’s great. F**kface Von Clownstick. Ahh.
            He’s such a douche. And also, if you add up his wins vs losses, not as great as he thinks he is.

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Yuck and now she’s pregnant. Those Kardasian’s would sell their vagina’s to anybody they can bother for child support later.Especially when it is,”the like they are accustom too”

            • There’s a guy in the UK called Keith Lemon that has a few shows on ITV2… search on google with his name + Scary Spice to get an idea of the kind of stuff he does… he has a new sketch show where one of the main skits is a rip on the whole Kardashian show but this time they’re Armenian gypsies living in a caravan park… he plays Kim with a full moustache… starts this week.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I’ll check it out..Thx

          • EnthralledObserver

            Kendall Jenner is A list – really?

    • LongtimeLurker

      Shut up LL, go to bed.

      Bye all (again)

    • Artoo45

      I can only imagine what Joy Villa wore to the Grammys . . . everything.

      • LongtimeLurker

        You didn’t see? You gotta google it!

        Okay, goodbye all, again.

  • Jack99

    The Grammys… thank you for making me feel old! Except Beck I have no idea who these people are. The last Beck cd I have is Sea Change, from 02. And I know Beyonce was in a group once, and they had this one song called Survivor that was actually quite catchy.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I don’t even know who Beck is… Who the fuck is he?

      • Graham

        I share your bewilderment.

      • Ella Raitch

        http://youtu.be/aa3rBVb3v4g

        I liked him back in the day

        2nd gen

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beck#Personal_life

        Father is composer David Campbell

        Mother is Bebe Hansen

        Married to a Ribisi (Vonni’s twin sister)

        He’s in there really really deep

        • EnthralledObserver

          Ah… ok, yeah I know that song (pretty good one at that)… haven’t found another I recognise so far though.

          • Jack99

            His breakthrough hit, Loser? “I’m a loser, baby, so why don’t you kill me?”

            • EnthralledObserver

              Oh yeah … had to go a fair bit in before I found a bit (chorus) that was familiar.

          • Ella Raitch

            Sexx Laws also made a JJJ hottest 100 compilation and is the only other one I know

            http://youtu.be/IQfwgzoiq4c

      • L. C. Spencer

        Major 2nd-gen Scilon, married into the Ribisis.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      It was, Destiny’s Child.

      • Jack99

        Yes. I found the clip on youtube. It’s still a catchy song.

  • SBC

    For the record, “Who is Beck” is trending on Twitter and has been for a couple of hours. Can’t even keep up with it.

  • ed inthehouse

    CNNI’s Grammy report ended with Joy Villa and that “dress”. I guess she’s famous now as many Grammy reports include her photo. Ugh!

    Some funny comments on this one: http://uproxx.com/music/2015/02/is-this-the-ugliest-dress-in-grammy-history/ and a commenter points out the dress was originally on the Project Runway knock-off “Styled to Rock” in 2013 (1st episode).

    The Grammy stories refer to her as a singer and model. On IMDB she refers to herself as an actress and associate director. She probably claims to meet with atomic weapon scientists at Caltech too…

    I was going to make a crack that Joy might be the reincarnation of Edy Williams (after picking up an inferior “meat body”) but apparently Edy is still alive.

  • Pierrot

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    • Pierrot

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      we would like you to participate in a test:
      use Quick Flag exclusively on the Regional List , and use the normal flagging on the “Today’s fresh ads” on the Daily Wip.

      We have been monitoring the effectiveness of the flagging and we feel that the result for the 10 days QF test would have been affected by the distraction from all the Going Clear lulz and foot bullets that is why we want to give QuickFlag another chance.

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      • Pierrot

        Morning Dodo, at 7+am est, do your normal stuff and I will tag along the NOTICE as Reply. Only I must be on the road at 7:30.
        And thanks for being a good friend.

        • Morning and welcome, Pierrot. Sounds like a plan. Be safe.

  • there shouldn’t be any sour grapes about Beck and that nightmare creature Joy Villa winning and being heavily mentioned in the press… it’s actually brilliant because there are going to be loads of sub-eds [and eds] looking for an angle to write up on the Grammys and the scientology connection is manna from heaven for bored staff journo’s… I think this going to be a slow burn over the next few days… especially so for those few who haven’t fallen down the rabbit hole yet!

  • 1subgenius

    OK, I’m trying to get my e-meter working and I’m having a problem because the various dials and arms and knobs are not labeled. So I need someone that has a pic or something with everything labeled. “Tone arm, etc.”

    While looking I ran across this idiot who says relax it’s all legit. And he can prove it!

    ” The shilling hatred mostly focuses on the volunteers and how they are trapped in a “cult”, and get driven to destruction by forfeiting all their assets to the church.

    Folks, this is a bold faced lie. A BIG FAT LIE. It simply does not happen that way. I saw all the members in this community, and they all have outside jobs, businesses, good cars, IN MEXICO. Do you know what part of the social strata you have to be in to drive a Lexus in Mexico? And there are no slaves anywhere, they are just normal people attending a church that has a couple volunteers, who ALSO HAVE A CAR IN MEXICO. Believe me, if you have a car in Mexico you are NOT a slave,”

    http://supersoldiertalk.com/2014/01/19/scientology-mark-8-e-meter/

    There you have it. If you have a car in Mexico you are not a slave. Good enough for me.

    • Graham

      So they only target rich people to become members of the church. Hmmm…. I think we knew that already.

      • 1subgenius

        You don’t understand something.
        They have cars!
        In Mexico!

    • What are you trying to do?

      • 1subgenius

        Trying to just follow the directions.
        “Position the tone arm at 2.0 on the tone arm dial”
        Not labeled, which is the tone arm dial? And there is no “2.0” Same as “2”?
        “Sensitivity knob to 32, booster switch to 32”
        Which is which?
        Then to “re-set tone arm counter” Move tone arm to 0.5.. No 0.5, but I’m guessing it’s the halfway point to “1”…(Why not just label that point as 0.5?)
        Also when plugged in the red light doesn’t come on, but it appears to be operating on battery power.
        Does it only light when charging? I sure want to fix the charger if it needs to be.
        Do you operate it on battery or with plugged in?
        Etc.

        • Make sure the Meter is fully charged.
          Use the largest knob to move the needle so it’s in the middle of the display.

          Set sensitivity not too low and not too high.

          Hold the cans and think stuff, good and bad and see if the needle moves.

          For better mindfuck, follow the instructions from emeter essentials booklet.

          What are you trying to accomplish? Just curious and playing with it?
          They will call you squirrel and declare me double SP.

          • 1subgenius

            (1.A: Nothing. 2 A: Yes.)
            See, you lost me already: “set sensitivity….”
            With which knob?
            And what about the power light?

            Here’s pic
            Well it’s upside down…..I’ll post another……

            • Sensitivity is the smaller knob.

            • L. C. Spencer

              I am seriously amazed at this entire thread being here. Long may you wave, guys.

          • 1subgenius

            Let’s see if this is upside up.

            • Looks just like the one I had, but older model.

            • 1subgenius

              And?

            • Put it on 8. Needle in the middle. Got cans?

            • 1subgenius

              .”Put it on 8. Needle in the middle.” Um, no.

              “It’s” “on 8” (the only dial with an 8), but “needle” is not in the middle. assuming you mean the needle under the glass. (The dials also have needles)
              See this is where I get into problems with not having labels or a clear understanding of what things like “it” mean.
              Yes I have cans.
              I’m trying to follow the owner’s manual, but don’t even know which is the “tone arm” and which is the “sensitivity knob” and which is the “booster switch” both of which have “32”s on them.

              But let me get an answer to the power light question, because that is of immediate concern, because if I run the battery down and it doesn’t charge I’m fucked, and might have to try to get my money back.
              Is the power light supposed to be on all the time, or does it go out when the battery is fully charged?
              (Also adding pic to show where I’m at in the instructions)

            • 1subgenius

              Ooops here it is

            • Try to get your money back.

            • 1subgenius

              Nah, I think I’ll get it working.
              I have duck tape.

            • I dunno. I get the joke. This one area is still not clear to me.
              May be I spent too much time with the emeter, as an auditor.
              I will figure it out some day.

            • 1subgenius

              Man, Tony’s post today is a mofo, no?
              WTF can anyone add to that?
              Ha ha ha ha ha.

            • 1subgenius

              BTW, I just gave it a tap and the red light came on, so I’m gonna have to open it and find the loose wire.
              I also will be looking into replacing the battery as it’s probably the original, and this thing is dated : 1987 and I don’t see a re-cert sticker.

            • Yeah. It’s like trying to fix broken Ouija board.

            • 1subgenius

              That is funny, cuz……yeah…..
              Oh my, I’m gonna use that one.

            • Sergeant Pepper

              Ouija is just as accurate, but slower. Stick with it, you will be an exemplary auditor 1sub!

      • 1subgenius

        Seen it. I just need labels for the thingies.
        I think dodo is about to answer my questions.
        But thanks.

        • Post a pic and I will try to name the thingies.

          • Rita Gregory

            Sounds like a game show, ‘Name That Thingie’.

  • 0tessa

    Anyone seen Tom Cruise presenting the Bafta for best film yesterday evening?
    He looked good, but said almost nothing. I got the impression the audience were not that enthousiastic.
    I suspect the organization was heavily lobbyed to get Cruise doing the presentation.

    • i just tweeted a couple haiku about that! i think he probably thinks it was a brave front facing the public—despite it being a stage managed affair and his PR people can claim he’s not hiding from the public and say ‘well he was at the Baftas, he’s not hiding’….but he is!! just a total front…..

  • Dave Reams

    I interiorized at the Pacific Cafe and was surprised to see that their burgers do look pretty much
    like the one in the photo. The smell though was wayyyyy off! I wondered what kind of animals had been “grass fed” and what parts made up Ron’ “juicy” meat? But, I did not dare eat anything in the place.

    The toilet was reasonably clean though lacking in toilet paper, soap and paper towells.
    There was a strange hole in the wall of the bathroom stall with a sign reading Bidet Miscavige. .. creepy!

    As I passed the alley way I saw their opened dumpster with bloodied meat packing boxes labelled from a Mexican supplier
    … “sesos del cerdo”, “intestinos del cerdo”, “anos del cabalo” and “vagina de la cerda” … creepy!

  • wannabeclear

    What is an Hor’s D’Oerve? And is it fancier and more expensive than Hors D’Oeuvres?

  • richelieu jr

    I think they may ant a Hors Do-Over on that one– That is if they take the ‘bate’…

  • peakofelephants

    Also fully hatted.