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Claire Headley Gets Us Prepped for Scientology’s OT Levels!

AOLAClaire Headley is taking us on our journey to train as Scientologists. She and her husband Marc were Sea Org workers who escaped from Scientology’s International Base in 2005. She spent years working with Scientology’s β€œtech,” and was trusted to oversee the auditing of Tom Cruise. Go here to see the first part in this series.

We’re really getting excited now on our journey up the Bridge to Total Freedom. Claire has led us through the grades and New Era Dianetics so that we’ve gone Clear and then had that certified with the Clear Certainty Rundown. Now, we can’t wait to get to the vaunted Operating Thetan (OT) levels! But first, we have some preparations to do, and possibly some travel, isn’t that right, Claire?

CLAIRE: Yes, you can’t start the OT levels until you’ve done OT Preps. This is where you’ll be programmed for any number of things to prepare you for the OT levels.

It’s also where a thorough review will be done of your ethics files for any areas you need to be sec-checked on.

And yes, depending on where you live, you may need to go a considerable distance, because OT Preps happens only at an “Advanced Organization.”

THE BUNKER: Currently, there are five AOs in the world, but according to Scientology’s website there are three additional AOs in the planning stages. For now, you need to make your way to AOLA (Los Angeles), AOSHUK (East Grinstead, England), AOSHEU (Copenhagen), AOSHANZO (Sydney), or FLAG AO (Clearwater, Florida). New AOs are planned for Africa, Canada, and Latin America.

As for an overview of OT Preps, we found this online…

 
OTPreps

 
CLAIRE: Yes, this is the version as I knew it. There are a few things to cover in regards to OT Preps:

If you are a stalled Clear, you will be programmed for the False Purpose Rundown (FPRD), also known as “evil purpose sec checking.”

A stalled Clear is defined as someone who went Clear but who did not then immediately continue on to their next level.

Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard supposedly did a study and found that the reason someone stalls at Clear is because of evil purposes, implanted by psychiatrists on the whole track.

THE BUNKER: Translation: Evil alien psychiatrists, somewhere in your past several trillion-year existence, implanted evil mental pictures that caused you not to rush right over to the AO and write a big fat check for the OT levels after you went Clear. Well, obviously!

CLAIRE: The FPRD is the same as normal sec-checking, with the exception that once you have confessed to a crime or overt, and run that earlier similar to floating needle and cognition, the auditor will then ask you: What evil purpose prompted you to commit that overt? And you will nail that down to a precise statement of an evil purpose which must also react instantly on the meter needle.

THE BUNKER: And all the while, your interrogator is scribbling away as you confess to “crimes” that go into your permanent record…

CLAIRE: Your folders will be reviewed for anything that still needs to be addressed. For example, if you have allergies and these have still not been handled as yet, you might be programmed for the Asthma/Allergy rundown. If you are a poor student, you would be programmed for the Student Rescue Intensive. The list goes on.

THE BUNKER: Well, sure. The last thing you want is an Operating Thetan with hay fever.

CLAIRE: If there is any current fad, such as redoing grades, objectives, purification rundown, etc., you’ll be programmed for that.

And your ethics files will undergo an excruciating review for any signs of out-ethics, PTSness, disaffection, or enemy lines. And any results yielded by this review will be addressed with sec checking.

In my case, OT Preps consisted of: Doing all my expanded Grades 0 – 4. Redoing my CCRD (even though later this was determined to be invalid and I was put back on Dianetics). FPRD Basic Form (this is about 60 questions all of which were sec-check questions for evil purposes). Disagreement Remedy – for noncompliance with Miscavige orders.

That about sums it up.

THE BUNKER: What if we lived in San Francisco or Denver or Chicago? Would doing this mean staying in a hotel at AOLA or Flag, and how long would OT Preps take?

CLAIRE: Yes, you’d definitely be covering all those costs, so I think that’s important to include.

For example, Flag has a whole org just dedicated to running the hotels, restaurants, etc., known as Flag Crew.

I’d say 6 intensives for OT Preps would be a conservative estimate.

And taking into account these are delivered by an AO auditor, we’re looking at some serious moolah.

THE BUNKER: So what’s your ballpark for 6 intensives, with food and lodging?

CLAIRE: I’d say easily 50k…

COST THIS WEEK: $50,000

COST SO FAR: $243,197

 
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Karen De La Carriere With a Two-Parter on Scientology And Money!

Two for the price of one from Karen de la Carriere, J. Swift, and Angry Gay Pope…

 

 

 
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This photo turns out to be from 2011, but was given to builders constructing this year's stage.

This photo turns out to be from 2011, but was given to builders constructing this year’s stage.

We Got the Drawings Right, the Photos Wrong

We had some miscommunication with a source, and we need to correct something we published on Tuesday. We’ve posted three detailed schematics of this year’s elaborate staging and backdrop for the IAS gala happening on November 8 in the big tent the Church of Scientology set up near the Super Power Building in Clearwater, Florida. Each of those schematics show a three-dimensional globe surrounded by a halo of aluminum flags — representing, we assume, the nations of the world. It looks like a very complicated setup that will probably make for an intricate puzzle for builders. In fact, to help builders facing the daunting task of putting together the stage, they were given not only a set of schematics, but also some photos of a previous year’s construction to help guide them in their job. The photos were of the 2011 stage for the IAS gala in East Grinstead, England. But when we received those photos from our source, we were under the impression that they were photos of the construction of this year’s project. They weren’t. The schematics, however, we re-confirmed were given to builders for this year’s event. And so we’re more curious than ever to see how the actual construction turns out. We apologize for the confusion with those photos.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on October 5, 2013 at 07:00

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  • KJP in Portland

    HEY DANGLED MOUSEDROPPINGS…are you enjoying the wog world having a little fun at your expense?

    • KJP in Portland

      Put down that scepter, we don’t want you tripping over it now.

  • Espiando

    And hello to our Scilon spais, watching this live blog of people enjoying themselves in Clearwater, which, you have to admit, is something that they have absolutely zero experience of. Since you’re here, here’s a special message for you:

    • KJP in Portland

      Mole Central, may I help you?

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Special Message For You II

  • stateofcircle

    Very off topic, but I was hoping one of you smart techie Bunkerites could recommend a browser that is relatively secure? I’ve been using Chrome but my tinfoil hat is starting to get really itchy around it. Any advice is greatly appreciated, I really value the opinions here.

    Ok, you may proceed with the J & D-ing now πŸ™‚

    • KJP in Portland

      SOC, I’m using Chrome and not having many issues…what’s the tinfoil hat mean? It’s kept right up on my machine and I have about 8 tabs open. So, ???

      • phronsie

        Perhaps feeling that google is taking over the world?

        • KJP in Portland

          They’ll fade, like Yahoo did…I ain’t too worried. At least it’s not NSDAP-Microsoft.

        • Ruby

          Google is hearsay!

          • KJP in Portland

            Yes’m, Google IS hearsay!

          • Natalia M

            . . .

            • Ruby

              PERFECT!!!

            • KJP in Portland

              Very good, Natalia!

            • Natalia M

              πŸ™‚

            • KJP in Portland

              “I’m Feeling Lucky”, heh!

      • ReneeG

        It’s about tracking you online. Google records your IP addy and stores your searches. Startpage and DuckDuckGo do not record your IP address as you search.

    • DodoTheLaser

      Firefox for me.

      • KJP in Portland

        I used Firefox many years ago…might try them again. It’s been 15? years.

    • ReneeG

      Firefox. Use GHOSTERY extension and NOSCRIPT. Do not use Chrome. DO NOT use Google. If you want GOOGLE results, use STARTPAGE. My default search engine is DUCKDUCKGO.

    • ReneeG

      And I use a different browser for my Sci activities than my IRL activities and never the twain shall meet.

    • Mrs Libnish

      I use Start Page as a search engine (does not record your searches) which also has a Proxy feature for safe surfing. And I use Opera as a browser.

    • Verve

      If you want to get real serious about privacy, Google ‘Tor browser bundle.’ It’s a modified Firefox that runs through the Tor network to keep you anonymous. It even spoofs your IP address.

  • TonyOrtega

    Leaving the bar. Tail back on us. COB, we’re breaking out the Scotch soon.

    • KJP in Portland

      Clearwater’s own dingleberries! You guys are special!

    • Ruby

      So funny that OSA and DM are afraid of you guys. You must look really scary or something.

    • Aslansown

      Pix of the tail?

    • KJP in Portland

      Throw the beer cans out the window at them…group mooning (for all of us)…group birdies (for all of us too!)

    • nottrue

      MAKE A HARD RIGHT AND PUNCH IT

      • Valerie Ross

        Whylse the tail? Wouldn’t it be more fun to take the tail on very long scenic drive to nowhere?

        • Ruby

          Someone earlier suggested over to Rinder’s house

          • Espiando

            That was me. But it’s a little late now. The kids might be asleep.

            • Ruby

              Yes…I just scrolled back and was gonna edit to put your name in there! :)) Give credit where credit is due on a great idea!

      • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

        L o L !!, nT – love it !!!

      • Robert Eckert

        I was really wanting to find the vid of that scene in the Godfather where they U-turn on the bridge to Jersey but my search-fu is failing me. Just visualize it.

    • Valerie Ross

      The will be great testimony for Monique’s trial. A person can’t even drive around CW without being tailed.

    • Ruby

      They probably want to get a good look at you all so they can put up the “DO NOT ADMIT” posters for the next event…whenever the heck that will ever be!

    • Valerie Ross

      Please please DE stick your head out the sunroof and wave at the tail.

    • Johnny Tank

      Is your driver local? Could he be “in”, moonlighting as a cheuffeur..? I’m just askin’…

      • Ruby

        And if he was…not anymore… πŸ™‚

    • Espiando

      Camera Tech, NOW. Get vid files of these cocksuckers. Get them up on YouTube the moment you hit an open Wi-Fi connection. And get that fucking license plate number.

      • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

        I love to just burst out with a real L O L !!! Thanks, Espi !!!

        • Espiando

          I’m serious, BH. One thing that really flustered the Chi-lons was when we whipped out cameras. They thought they could intimidate us with Camera Tech. We just laughed in their faces and outnumbered them.

          I should ask Sindy who the woman was who was usually stationed on the second floor of the Chicago Org taking pictures of us when we showed up. It wasn’t Psycho Lady. Also, Dominic had some pretty expensive camera gear. Guess the Chicago DSA budget was pretty substantial.

    • nottrue

      I THINK HE HEARD YOU 2DOWNER

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I haven’t had this much fun since high school!

      • Johnny Tank

        So that’s 7 years ago..?

        • KJP in Portland

          She loves ya man!

      • KJP in Portland

        If ya guys were reallllly drunk…roll down the windows….and…..SLAP! POW! (K gets a shiner)

      • Ruby

        Bury, this is one of my favorite comments ever. I SO totally get what you mean here! What a blast!!

      • tetloj

        Gonna finish the night with spin the bottle hur hur hur (or just a good spliff)?

    • Captain Howdy

      Where’s a gang of rice burner ridin’ gang banger wanna be bikers when you need them?

      • SLIM

        They are “Undercover”…..Like the riders..

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Hi Tony!

      Please tell BTN, Glibby, Hole, Dee, and LWHubturd, that Cars says “Hi” and that I’m smiling like an idiot thinking of all you guys together.

      Haven’t met Roger (I think) nor Mr. Nuts and Mr. Hole but tell them a spiffy, cherry red, gullwing, 1956 Mercedes, 300SL series says “Hi” to them as well.

      Glad to hear you are taking time for well-deserved R& R! Don’t worry, we’re holding the Bunker walls and roof up in your absence.

      Cars.

    • tetloj

      Reckon five-three (COB) broke out the scotch when the klaxon first went off

  • KJP in Portland

    People, if they aren’t taking pics of the ‘tailer’ than they must be under some lawyer’s advice…then so be it. Or, we’re gonna see a lot of crazy-ass photos in a day or two!

    • Espiando

      Fuck the lawyers. Prima facie harassment doesn’t have anything to do with a civil suit, being a criminal event.

      Camera Tech. NAO.

      • KJP in Portland

        I still have a strong feeling we’ll see plenty, either shortly, OR in the morning.

      • 1subgenius

        “Fuck the lawyers.”
        Do we have to?

        • KJP in Portland

          I spat my drink!

        • sugarplumfairy

          Dibs on RayJay..

        • sugarplumfairy

          On second thought, Wally Pope kinda floats my boat.. delusional blowhards are so sexy..

        • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

          I call dibs on staying AWAY from Ken Moxon *vom*

    • Robert Eckert
    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Trailer swapped. Limo driver was watching.

      • Ruby

        I bet the limo driver shows up here at the Bunker tomorrow! πŸ™‚
        Or tonight…
        Oh, and if he does…WELCOME! and thank you for taking such good care of our friends this evening!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          He was awesome….hates em!

  • DodoTheLaser

    The silence is deafenin.. Tony, you guys ok there?

    • Ruby

      They’re into the Scotch now…

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      We are fine. Back safe and sound….but watched.

      • Ruby

        Your “watchers” are green with envy. They SO wish they were in your shoes right now…really, they do!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Oh good. Thank you.

      • tetloj

        Maybe they just want to see what ‘fun’ looks like…

      • Jo

        Stay safe folks x

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Hi Bury,

        I asked Tony to tell you, Glibby, Hole, Dee, and LWHubturd, that Cars says “Hi” and that I’m smiling like an idiot thinking of all you guys together.

        Haven’t met Roger (I think) nor Mr. Nuts and Mr. Hole but tell them a spiffy, cherry red, gullwing, 1956 Mercedes, 300SL series says “Hi” to them as well.
        So, I’m repeating the same message to you in case Tony didn’t get it.
        Hope you all safe! Just read about your car being “followed.” I’m getting worried now. Hope it doesn’t change the mood of your evening….

        Cars.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Will do cars,

          • Poison Ivy

            I think you should run through the Fort Harrison banging on hotel room doors and yelling “Super Power’s Open – Get In Line Now For The Oilness Table!!”

            • Johnny Tank

              Now that would be funny!

      • stateofcircle

        So how many double-oh-xenu operatives do they have on you guys? Are they be discrete or noisy?

        • ThetaBara

          They couldn’t have been all that discreet if a limo full of drunks noticed them!

        • Robert Eckert

          They always want their harassment to be “noisy”. That worked better when people were actually scared of them.

    • sugarplumfairy

      miscavige probably has them running around that creepy, dark running track to get them in shape for their Joburg sec checks..

  • KJP in Portland

    NOT on of Mr. Mousedropping’s better evenings…

    • ThetaBara

      Plz to consider that appearing to espouse violence iz not good idea.
      Sry to be wet blanket, but iz for best. <3
      I kno you don't mean anything by it. But others may not.

      • KJP in Portland

        Oh heck, I just love this one…I knew I was at the edge with it. I’ll take him back home for the night…

        • KJP in Portland

          I’m still ‘on the hunt’ for a funnier one though…

      • Poison Ivy

        Agreed. We need to stand for a peaceable end to the insanity that is the Rule of Miscavige.
        Peaceable preferably including a perp walk by a very short perp…

      • EnthralledObserver

        This is precisely the hypocrisy that makes me believe you only reply to me to start your shit. I state it’s not a good idea to take recreational drugs as a general discouragement, and you told me to ‘lay off’… but here you are telling people not to encourage violence based on a shoop. Please, don’t bother replying to anything I write from now on… I’ve deliberately avoided your comments for weeks now because I suspected you had a bee in your bonnet, now I know you do.

        • Robert Eckert

          Any appearance that the Bunker encourages violence against Miscavige or any other Scientologists can cause legal problems or at the least be useful to his PR. This is not at all the same as the disagreement about marijuana.

          • EnthralledObserver

            It was never a disagreement about marijuana… it was a deliberate effort to have a go, when none was needed. I just don’t want anything to do with her. She thinks she can say whatever she wants, but others aren’t allowed to. I can’t stand that superior attitude. Thank you Robert.

            • Robert Eckert

              You are behaving like Ziontologist. You are picking a fight with her now, when she wasn’t talking to you at all, and the issue now has absolutely nothing to do with what happened a few days ago.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Try again. Go see her comment to me, after my general one to Derek which he never replied to. It was two days ago for me for christs sake!!!! Bull shit she didn’t make her comment to be antagonistic.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I’ll clarify – ThetaBara made comments only an hour or so ago in reply to something general (and not at all unkindly) I said in reply to Derek’s post. It was two days ago for me… it didn’t need her to say what she did, her reply was intended to be antagonistic. And I only replied here because I felt her premise hypocritical after what she’d said to me, and to ask her not to reply to me again, as I am already avoiding her, and have been for weeks. That’s all.

            • Robert Eckert

              “And I only replied here because I felt her premise hypocritical” You are responding in the middle of a conversation that has nothing whatsoever to do with you, and the context has no resemblance whatsoever to your desire to give unsolicited moral advice about marijuana. If you wanted to reply to her reply to you, then you should have done that. If you did not, then you had no business starting up a fight here.

            • EnthralledObserver

              In case it escaped your notice, she hasn’t replied, and no fight started… until you dipped in your opinion. It was one message, and believe me, I’m sure she understood my message. I have no intention of responding to her ever again… which I clearly implied, do you not comprehend that?

            • Robert Eckert

              I do not believe you when you claim you have no intention of stirring shit again.

            • ReneeG

              Robert, I am beginning to think YOU are the troll.

            • Robert Eckert

              *shrug* I often act like a “cop” although I have no authority to. The Bunker’s reputation as a place with remarkable few flame-wars is not something that has just happened; it has required a lot of work putting down shit-stirrers. I particularly object to people wanting to carry on flame wars from one thread to another in a totally irrelevant manner.

            • Robert Eckert

              THIS?? Someone was certainly being intentionally antagonistic, but it wasn’t ThetaBara.

              ThetaBara EnthralledObserver

              β€’ 4 hours ago

              He was in California. How do you know it wasn’t prescribed by an MD, perhaps for anxiety?1

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              EnthralledObserver ThetaBara

              β€’ 2 hours ago

              I thought that was obvious that I don’t know… don’t start your shit with me.

              β€’

              Reply

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              ThetaBara EnthralledObserver

              β€’ an hour ago

              I’m not starting any shit. Derek said it helped. I’m just pointing out that it very well could have been prescribed. Why don’t you lay off?

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              EnthralledObserver ThetaBara

              β€’ an hour ago

              Fuck off.

              β€’

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              ThetaBara EnthralledObserver

              β€’ an hour ago

              βˆ’

              Yes ma’am.

            • EnthralledObserver

              How about you include the original comment – or would that be telling?

            • EnthralledObserver

              Here it is for you:

              EnthralledObserver dbloch7986

              β€’ a day ago β€’ 2 0

              Whilst acknowledging what I think you were trying to express, and honoring that, the Mummy part of me wants to share:
              Don’t take any drugs that aren’t necessary and prescribed by a Medical doctor – just don’t. Call me prude, or square, or whatever, but recreational drugs aren’t the answer. Just thought it needed saying.

              2 0

            • Robert Eckert

              Fine, bitch:

              EnthralledObserver dbloch7986 a day ago
              Whilst acknowledging what I think you were trying to express, and honoring that, the Mummy part of me wants to share:
              Don’t take any drugs that aren’t necessary and prescribed by a Medical doctor – just don’t. Call me prude, or square, or whatever, but recreational drugs aren’t the answer. Just thought it needed saying.

              ThetaBara replied quite reasonably that it might very well have been prescribed, when you were implying it wasn’t. I would have replied that your moral opinions did not need saying, but I refrained.

            • EnthralledObserver

              OK… CUNT.
              Just ignore my posts in future too… I’ll be avoiding you too.

            • Robert Eckert

              I don’t intend to ignore you if you insist on being a shit-stirrer. I will continue to call you out.

        • ThetaBara

          I’ve never espoused recreational drug use. I have mentioned that marijuana IS considered medicinal in my state as well as several others. Did you know that cocaine and speed can both legally be medically prescribed?
          Seems to me that you are the one looking for a fight. If you want to ignore me, then do it. Please. I don’t really see you doing that and actually you seem to be the one looking for a fight.
          There was no need to criticize Derek for what he said. Which is why I suggested you lay off. I still think it would be a good idea for you to back off. Derek needs to do what he needs to do to heal. It’s none of your business (nor, admittedly, mine – but I am not the one criticizing him for doing what he needed to do).
          Also, and more to the point here, advocating violence puts the poster at risk, as well as our host. That’s just the legal reality. Therefor it is not a good idea.
          I’m sorry that you don’t like what I have to say. But I have never advocated violence or illegal acts.

  • TonyOrtega

    Sorry, connection problems. OK, we’re now in place at super secret location. Much hilarity ensuing. Trying to get photos downloaded. Scotch being consumed. Lovely Florida night out here in the backyard.

    • tetloj

      What a night! Thanks for sharing.

      • KJP in Portland

        This entire past week has been just one helluva blockbuster. I haven’t even bothered with TV!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Great! Was getting a little worried about all of you after BTN’s last message.

    • Ruby

      Dang…and I have to head out again! But, will be back …
      Have fun!

      • KJP in Portland

        (((hugs))) again…

        • Ruby

          Thanks! I’ll be back…hope you guys are still here…

          • Aslansown

            I think it’s pretty safe to assume we’ll all be here! πŸ˜‰

            • KJP in Portland

              I’ll stay up for this one.

            • stateofcircle

              …it’s pretty safe to assume we’re always here. All the time. Everyday. Forever.

            • Aslansown

              hahahaha. You’re right. I get nothing done anymore.

            • ThetaBara

              Except when we’re out RAIDING!

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        We’ll save your seat for you. Try to hurry back Ruby.

    • aurora50

      So GLAD you are getting a chance to unwind, Tony! Cheers from the Left Coast…

      • KJP in Portland

        Left Coast sends our regards…

    • Observer

      The fact that Davey is impotently stewing in his own juices is the cheer on top! For me, anyway.

      • KJP in Portland

        I’d rather throw his little butt in a microwave!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Backyard?!!! I hope you are all going to be “safe” there and that the property is walled and gated. Want us to send over some bodyguards?

  • TonyOrtega

    OK, here we are with two exes who are well known online and we can identify freely. That’s your proprietor with Roger Weller and Dee Findlay in front of the open tent. The stage behind us is behind a black drape. Within twenty or thirty seconds after this photo was taken, half a dozen Flag security guys surrounded us, the tent was closed, and a beefy Clearwater Police officer very politely asked us what we were up to and informed us that the tent was on private land — but acknowledged that the sidewalk we were standing on was public property.

    • KJP in Portland

      Hi Dee! (((HUGS)))

    • sugarplumfairy

      That is flat-out awesome!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Absolutely fabulous to see this. Love everyone’s joyful expressions! Thanks for taking the time to do this for us.
      P.S. It is OK, you know, if you shut all your “tech” off and simply relax and have fun!

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Just sayin’.

    • Jo

      Priceless, thanks Tony.

    • NeverIn

      Lookin’ great, all!

    • 1subgenius

      fing cops

    • i-Betty

      Laughing my head off! Tell me that’s not tent #1 in the background? I’m trying so hard to catch up with all the comments. If it IS, I might cry with laughter at your balls!

    • i-Betty

      Lovely to see you, Dee and Roger :))

    • aurora50

      What do Dee and Roger have around their necks?

      • Johnny Tank

        “I saw the tent 2013” medals.

        • TonyOrtega

          Pretty much. Fun hand-made medals by The Hole Does Not Exist.

          • Poison Ivy

            Love them!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Our personal SP Lulz medallions.

    • Chocolate Velvet

      Excellent! They must have flipped right the fuck out when they realized super SP journalist Tony Ortega was on the scene! LMAO. I’m guessing COB won’t sleep much tonight, trying to find out what you are up to, what you may have seen, and who is now PTS due to simply glimpsing your suppressive visage. So many Sec Checks to be done…

    • aurora50
      • Poison Ivy

        Love you Dee! xo

        • stillgrace2

          Me, too, Dee!!

      • Missionary Kid

        Thanks. Here’s one that I came up with myself, as a result of that blog.
        Disneyland calls itself, “The Happiest place in the world.” Co$ is the unhappiest.
        It’s going on the list of Things said about Scientology.

    • Poison Ivy

      Looking very beachy, Tony!

    • aurora50

      And Roger, from the Village Voice…with Mick Jagger!

      http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/07/when_scientolog_1.php

      • Robert Eckert

        Excellent find!

        • grundoon

          and the comments are great too

    • aboutandout

      Wonderful picture…I love that you guy’s are just pissing in DM’s backyard…

    • tetloj

      Close up of medallions/pendants later pls…

  • TonyOrtega

    Bury the Nuts kept taking photos after the security crew showed up, and then began using Human Terminal Blocking Tech. The young man in the foreground stayed very close to Bury as she took photos. She then whispered to him, “Call your family.” And he said, “Go on a diet.” She laughed and said, “That’s all you got?”

    • Jon Hendry

      Fantastic.

      They were clearly aware that you might well go for an unshielded thermal exhaust port.

    • NeverIn

      Bury, I love you so much!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Tell Bury with her being there, who needs more bodyguards! Well done. Great fun.

    • Elen

      BTN – you are beautiful!! Never seen you, never met you, but I’ve read you!! Such a kind thing to do, telling him to reach out… Cheers!

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      They all look so unhappy. Like they swallowed an epic “fuck my life” pill

      • Nevermore

        That’s exactly what they’ve done. Our job is to help them spew it back up again!

    • KJP in Portland

      I tell ya before, I say it again…her humor made me keep reading this blog…now look at me…I’m addicted!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Bury the nuts, but first, call your family. Excellent!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Bury can out-confront & shatter him any day..

      • KJP in Portland

        Stuff like this makes me want to drive downtown to the PDX Org…

    • BigMcLargeHuge

      This is like a John Hughes movie. Only with old people.

      • Jon Hendry

        RED: Operation Clearwater

      • sugarplumfairy

        Oh goody.. You must be uncle buck..

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Who the fuck you calling old!!,

          Edit: 1 up

          • sugarplumfairy

            I insulted him for you!

          • aurora50

            Maybe tomorrow, you could write up a little report on your impressions of this encounter? As someone said, they look afraid and unhappy…what else was it like? and what was it like for you all to be followed like that?
            No pressure…only if you feel like it!

            • tetloj

              Don’t let them get off that easily A…we gots to know!!!! They had all these hijinx dammit!

          • tetloj

            I prefer ‘aged to perfection’, like a fine wine…if you can resist drinking it for long enough.

      • tetloj

        Agree, but maybe rethink old.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I have to add that the inside of that tent strikes me as the stage where the final scenes of a James Bond movie would be set.

    • SandiCorrena

      She’s good-REAL GOOD!!!!!!!

    • phronsie

      Adore! Wonderful BTN!

    • Ruby

      That kid is a punk! Sounds like he learned his great PR tek for the cherch from Kirstie

    • tetloj

      It’s happened Tony…Bury is now the number one reason I read this blog.

    • Room 101

      If I’m not mistaken. And I’m not. That dude at the foreground’s name is Patricio.

      • stillgrace2

        Patricio!!!! Call your family!

  • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

    holy crap I came home to 51 notifications and 564 new comments! Well done Bunker!

    • KJP in Portland

      What a riot tonight! You took too long getting the sauce!

      • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

        Like I didnt have 1 or 3 margaritas at lunch. psh tosh. ok, I had half of one. I’m not a drunk 99% of the time

        • KJP in Portland

          You’re a Good Egg. But Occifer..!

          • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

            my friend on the other hand, had several. I had half at the start of our adventures knowing we had to get home safe

            • KJP in Portland

              The Desi-Driver!

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              always happens to me. I dont mind though, If I’m going to lose my faculties, I’d rather do it in my house where I cant be in compromising situations, at least compromising situations in public

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Look! new peekture! At least 51% of a face. Honestly I dont care if the scilons think I’m worthy of tracking down. Nothing an emeter can to the face wont fix

            • KJP in Portland

              Oh hai! *thump thump thump*

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              what?!?! Did someone scratch your tickle spot again? Thats what happens when I rub my dogs tummies

            • Robert Eckert

              “tickle spot”? is that what they call it these days?

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              I dont know nothin from nothin

            • KJP in Portland

              I just got handed a whole BAG of doggy treats! Better than popcorn! My! LOTS of great pictures tonight, don’t you think???

            • KJP in Portland

              Gotta take that damn thing outta my pocket…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              I’m loving the Bunker Shenanigans down in Florida. Really the best comeback they have is “go on a diet”? Telling us curvy girls we’re curvy is like telling Ray Charles he’s blind.

              Whoa.. REALLY??? I had no fucking idea!

            • KJP in Portland

              I told ya before, I’ll say it again…never dated a skinny girl. No curves = NO fun πŸ™

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              well theres hope for humanity yet! I dont skinny shame, I dont fat shame, I think everyone is awesome no matter what shape. Now if you’re an asshole, your shape REALLY doesnt matter because you’re not going to get to play in my stratosphere at all

            • KJP in Portland

              …if you only knew, young lady…if you only knew… πŸ™‚

            • Miss Tia

              Awwww…..I’m fun but I can’t gain weight πŸ™

            • Poison Ivy

              She should’ve just told him she’s an OT. According to Tory Magoo, all OT’s put on some pounds…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Thats going to be my new excuse if I ever am on the receiving end of a scilon confront. Its cool bro… I’m an OT

            • KJP in Portland

              I have a very special place I could stuff their e-Meter in…

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Great new avy!

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              why thank ya!

            • i-Betty

              So pretty! πŸ™‚

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              *mwah* dont you ever sleep doll?

            • Aslansown

              hahaha. That’s what I always wonder!

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Honestly! 7am pacific time I get to work, there is Betty. 4pm I leave, theres Betty, 820pm now, and heres Betty! holy moly no rest for the wicked!

            • i-Betty

              Lol! Honestly…I could tell you the entire story, but it’s boring compared with the Clearwater Shenanigans…however it involves me being fast asleep until a slightly drunken daughter and her boyfriend fell through the door and woke me up. So here I am! πŸ˜€

            • Aslansown

              Too bad they didn’t wake you up earlier — you missed a great live blog of the event. You’ll have fun going through the older posts!

            • i-Betty

              I’m scrolling like crazy, but in the end I had to sort by Tony’s posts for the fastest catch-up. And I’m so jealous because I was almost there, too, until our holiday was postponed by 14 days *cry*

              Not ‘jealous’, but you know what I mean πŸ™‚ Especially seeing all the photos, it makes you want to be there even more!

            • Aslansown

              You would have been down there? Sooo sorry.

            • i-Betty

              Yes! Until a week ago I was so certain I would make it, but we were reliant on a friend whose house we are staying in – and whether she could get the time off work. Turns out she RUDELY had to go to Colombia this week! πŸ˜›

            • Aslansown

              How DARE she!!!!!

            • i-Betty

              I know! πŸ˜€

            • Aslansown

              I’d say it’s time to seriously reconsider your friendship! πŸ˜‰

            • i-Betty

              I got on Skype and waved my fist at her furiously. She wasn’t scared. My fist isn’t very big πŸ˜›

            • Aslansown

              hee hee

            • Robert Eckert

              So take over her house, what’s the problem?

            • i-Betty

              She’s our best friend and this will be the first time we see her since she moved to the States in November last year. We thought we ought to be there at the same time as her πŸ˜›

            • KJP in Portland

              Yes, I will quit stammering now and say I do agree with Betty and think you’re pretty *blush*

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              oh no feel free to stammer, its fun!

            • Nice pic! Too pretty of a face to keep hidden. Thanks for sharing. πŸ™‚

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              well gosh! *kicks rocks* thank you!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Welcome back! Sit back and enjoy the post and photos from the Clearwater…. what fun!

  • TonyOrtega

    This was a special request for KJP — that’s GlibWog sitting on Bury the Nuts.

    • Johnny Tank

      Cute πŸ™‚

    • 1subgenius

      Thats the way, uh huh uh huh, I like it, uh huh uh huh.

      • Robert Eckert
        • 1subgenius

          It always reminds me of the New Yorker cartoon of the corporate meeting, and the chairman says, “All in favor signify by saying ‘That’s the way, uh huh, uh huh, I like it'”.
          I’ve actually used the line like that.

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Great! Tell Bury and Glibby I’m sending them each one of Glibby’s ((((((HUGS)))))).

    • phronsie

      Excellent pic!

    • i-Betty

      Hello girls! I am so sad I couldn’t make it, especially knowing how many of you are there. Have several strawberry daiquiris for me, please! I’m so glad you made it, Glibby. Have fun, all, and be safe πŸ™‚ xxx

    • KJP in Portland

      WOOT! Yeehaw! (((HUGS))) There they be!

      *BLUSH*…I AM honored!

      Thank you, all of you :)))))))

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Thank you KJP! Your request has become our pleasure too!

        • KJP in Portland

          I think Bury will have a long and running joke with me for some time to come! It’s so cool, many of us are the same g-g-g-generation! My kind of peeps!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Nice mask!

    • Elen

      Look at those beautiful smiles!!

      • i-Betty

        They’re GAWJUS! You both look so happy πŸ™‚

        • KJP in Portland

          They ARE…better than ever imagined! I wish I could soooo be there. Maybe next year now that I will have vacation again!

    • 1subgenius

      Damn, my worst fear came true: someone, somewhere is having more fun than me.
      Well played, one and all.

      • ThetaBara

        O Noes, it’s FOMO!!!
        (Fear of missing out)

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      are those bat glasses?? I need those in my life!

    • SandiCorrena

      <3

    • ThetaBara

      So much awesomeness in one little photo! Well played!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Anyone else willing to send us more pics from the Bunker in Florida to the rest of us here in the Other Bunker? It makes us feel like we’re right there with you guys. Thanks for letting us crash your party this way! Very generous, kind, sweet, and ……………… and fun!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Awesome… lovely to put faces to the nics. πŸ™‚

    • Cloud

      A face and half of another to names. YES!

    • stillgrace2

      Nice manicure, BTN!

      • i-Betty

        First thing I noticed! Second, actually. The first was Glibby’s bat mask (faboosh, darling!). The mani is spectacular, Bury!

        • Poison Ivy

          How does she keep her manicure that lovely with all the comment posting she does?!

          • Aslansown

            I know. I was just expecting nubs. πŸ˜‰

          • stillgrace2

            OT powers

          • Ruby

            hahaha! πŸ™‚

          • tetloj

            First thought – hits keys with her nose?

    • Ruby

      BEAUTIFUL!!

    • tetloj

      So what WAS in the hookah? Howdy you hunka hunka gorgeous bunkerettes errr refined Southern lady SPs.

    • Jo

      Just woke up, love the photo ladies. Looks like your having a lot of fun, happy πŸ™‚ Sunday folks.

    • Miss Tia

      Hello Ladies! Love seeing your smiling faces!

  • texasborn

    Two beautiful smiles right there.

  • KJP in Portland

    Is Disqus “screen-bouncing”, or is it time for new batteries in my mouse and keyboard???

    Hell, maybe it’s my pacemaker (if I had one)

    I’m gonna RE-BOOT. SOmething’s gimpy here.

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      I’m OK here. “Here” being your neighbor North of you. You know what I mean, eh?

      • Aslansown
        • aboutandout

          my favourite couple…eh

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            You don’t say…eh?

            • aboutandout

              and no I don’t say a-boot…and I still have yet to figure that one out

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Yeah, I don’t either and I still haven’t heard a single person pronounce it that way.
              P.S. I don’t say “eh” either. Go figure….

            • aboutandout

              Neither do I, now you understand my name “aboutandout” I probably should have spelled it abootandooout lol

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Just woke up – late night partying in Clearwater ;-)…. it was GRAND, wasn’t it? – and therefore just found this message from you. So you were my first LOL before morning coffee! Quite an accomplishment on a sleep-in, cold, raining, Sunday a.m.!

              Actually, I thought about your name last night and remembered that when I first saw it (and your Avy) if you might be part of the “eh team” as well, or at least part of the British Commonwealth.

              Nice to meet you neighbor. And good morn’ to you! Going to Timmie’s for coffee,(eh)?

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          Yeah, Baby! (Mike Myers is one of us, too.)

          • Aslansown

            When was the last time you ate back bacon, eh?

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              I don’t each pig, eh?

            • Aslansown

              OK, eh.

  • TonyOrtega

    OK, the Bunkerites here are now getting into the serious chisme, so we’re going to focus on the chatter and the single malt. If we’re a little late on Sunday Funnies in the morning, you know the reason why!

    • Robert Eckert

      You been berry berry good to us all week.

      • sugarplumfairy

        All year..

    • tetloj

      Had to google chisme. I thought you were just pissed.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I just made up my own meaning to that word… I now have to ‘heresay’ it to see how close I got.

        • tetloj

          First thought (no shit), did he mean ‘chimes’, like ‘tunes’ or a sing-a-long. I am so-not down and hep with the kids, ya know (and these kids are older than me).

        • Robert Eckert

          I guessed that it was some kind of liquor.

          • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

            too funny, RE !! but a really reasonable guestimate, what with our Proprietors penchant for stellar spirits.

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      Thank you for the amazing updates Tony! So glad I came back to your articles a month ago

    • KJP in Portland

      Buy the V8 ahead of time tonight. Eat hearty in the morning! We’ll sit here and entertain each other!

      Dontcha just love it here, folks?

      You too, Sciloons…

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Good night all! Thanks for sharing. It’s time for you guy to get down to serious fun.
      Suggestion: Don’t even bother showing up on Sunday. You put in a month’s worth of work in less than a week. I’m sure everyone would understand.

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Chisme = A story worth telling to all your friends (urban dictionary)

      • Aslansown

        I just learned a new word. Don’t let anyone say the Bunker isn’t educational.

        • And I don’t rent cars!

          I’ll say… and on so many levels and in so many different fields!
          That’s just ONE of the reasons why I love the Bunker (meaning the people who post) so much.
          Good night Alansown. I’m off to catch some zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz……..

          • Aslansown

            Sleep well, eh? (sorry)

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              LOL!!!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Just getting in after a long day. And I thought I was havin’ some fun…

      I will be scrolling backward and catching up…!

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Except when you get to the part about the tent, don’t get kicked out – take more pics.
        AND don’t let anyone tail you……
        Have fun!

    • i-Betty

      Have a wonderful time, and love to EVERYONE πŸ™‚

    • Ruby

      Cheers to you all…enjoy! πŸ™‚

    • dbloch7986

      What chisme did I miss? Mentirosas. Who’s talking shit, I’ll cut that bitch.

      oi, sorry the ratchet part of me came out.

      • i-Betty

        Heehee, hi Derek! How’s it going?

        • dbloch7986

          Good. Finally relaxing. I went shopping and stocked up my Aunt’s fridge today. She made chicken fried steak for dinner, with baked potatoes, and gravy. Delicious! We’ve just been hanging out. I bought a bottle of sparking rose wine that we drank together. I thought it might storm today, but sadly it didn’t. It did get cold all of a sudden.

          Right now I’m watching Ghost Adventures in the Winchester Mystery House. I really want to go there. It looks beautiful. I was looking up haunted spots in Austin to travel as well.

          • tetloj

            Wow Derek, what a ride you are continuing to have. So so so happy for you. You would have made a great addition to Tiziano’s video. The straight up and vertical of leaving scientology.

            And when’s MWM coming back dammit!

            • dbloch7986

              I’m not sure. She’s a very busy lady, but we do stay in touch! I always tell her that you guys are waiting for her long overdue return.

              I am just ready for everything to settle down into cruise control for a bit. Once I get my rent paid for November and get into the swing of things at work, I’ll feel better.

            • stillgrace2

              She was here tonight. I told you that someplace else amidst the many, many comments.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Back into a ‘real world’ life, dB7 !! That is so cool. Steady job, housing, family, community is going to feed your soul. Love your story; props and respect brother.

            • dbloch7986

              Thanks! I am ready to get back to it, but thankfully I have a couple of weeks off to just kick back. Don’t start work until the 21st.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Makes me soooo happy to hear you’re with family..

            • dbloch7986

              Love you SPF! We should be able to meet up one of these days. I have got to get a list of Bunkerites that I need to visit. I want to go stay with a couple of the peeps in Florida so I can check out Horror Nights at Universal Orlando. I bet it puts the one in Universal City to shame.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Love you too, Derek.. Sounds good to me..

          • Robert Eckert

            Winchester House was fun, but you know, you were closer to it before! Good to hear you’re settling in. I got word that I’m getting some work, may turn into a long-term (and well-paying) gig. On the heels of KJP doing the same, it seems that things are taking a good turn.

            • Davka

              Robert,congrats! hope tha extends to me, too! This unemployment thing? Not so much…..

            • Poison Ivy

              Congrats!

            • dbloch7986

              That’s awesome Robert! I’m happy for you. I know I was closer, but I never got the chance to go. I did check out Preston Castle though, and the Hearst Mansion. Those were awesome.

            • Robert Eckert

              A buddy and I almost went to San Simeon but didn’t, and it may be a very long time before I am on the Left Coast again.

            • dbloch7986

              It’s absolutely worth the trip, if you stay in Pismo Beach. The beach is gorgeous. There’s Splash Cafe there too, which has the best clam chowder I’ve ever had anywhere in California. And I have eaten clam chowder all over California (all sexual innuendos aside).

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i62YdabvAHo

              These clams don’t wanna wind-up in any chowder, dB7 !!

            • KJP in Portland

              Hi Derek, good to see it’s getting better everyday!

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              And when that time comes, RE, don’t ‘almost’_ go !!

            • i-Betty

              I would love to see Hearst Mansion. I’ve not heard of Preston Castle, so I’m off to check it out πŸ™‚

            • dbloch7986

              Hearst Mansion is a testament to excess. Not only is it beautiful, but when you’re on the tour they tell you about all the pieces of wood and entire pieces of the house that were imported from other countries.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Indeed! Orson Welles portrait of Xanadu for Citizen Kane is a devastating indictment of the excess. Incredible. At the same time, it is, truly, awesome to see it, to be there.

            • stillgrace2

              Hearst Mansion belongs on everybody’s bucket list. The best advice I can give you is plan for more than one day. There are at least three separate tours you can take. The whole area is delightful, lots of great B & B’s.

            • dbloch7986

              Yes! I wish I had gone more than one day to the mansion. There are so many different tours. The area is beautiful and Pismo Beach is probably one of THE nicest beaches in Cali.

            • stillgrace2

              It’s the best walking beach, that’s for sure. Miles and miles. Great sand.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              As kids, we called it the Hearst Castle, San Simeon. Will always love the whole San Luis Obispo area. Love Pismo Beach. A grand trip for ya’ someday i-B.

            • i-Betty

              I’m so pleased, that’s great!

          • Poison Ivy

            Derek, sounds like you’re “home” at last!

          • stillgrace2

            Derek, I was a docent at Sarah’s house in my late teens. The house is very special to my family for some sentimental reasons. I can still give tours.

            • dbloch7986

              Would be fun to go with you! Do you still live in the San Jose area?

            • stillgrace2

              Yes. If you’re ever in the area, I’ll go with you. I have many inside stories. The last time I went on a tour, I started handing out little gems. When the people started following me around, the docent gave up and followed, too.

            • dbloch7986

              Hahaha! That’s funny. I wish I had known you were there before I moved. I would have loved to go with you. I’ll have to let you know when I can get a trip pulled together.

            • stillgrace2

              I’ll be here! The gardens alone are worth a whole afternoon. The only place I don’t go anymore is under the house, the creepy, crawly, HUGE basement. I’m not afraid of the ghosts, but I am a California native (fourth generation) and I’ve lived through too many earthquakes to feel comfortable down there.

            • SopranoAscends

              Maybe one day you can come up to the City, and we can have tea. I’ve got a recital in Belmont next month.

            • Captain Howdy

              Dammmmmmmmmmmmmmm. you’re even more awesome than I thought.

            • stillgrace2

              I have many secrets I don’t share here; projects I’ve worked on. John P. could dox me if I did. Not that I would mind if HE (edit: and others here) did, but must be careful.

          • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

            Derek, I used to live down the road from there. Its definitely worth a trip back to california to see it

    • Jo

      Have fun, I’m going up the wooden hill now. Promised myself I would be in bed hours ago. Seriously can’t face a double hangover. Night folks sweet dreams x

      • Johnny Tank

        Night, Jo!

      • i-Betty

        Sweet dreams, Jo πŸ™‚ xxx

      • KJP in Portland

        ‘night Jo…thanks for the fun today!

  • KJP in Portland

    OK…hai!

    My desktop had been on for like a week or something and I think it just started to puke out. We’ll see how it goes now!

  • KJP in Portland

    Are we frying the page, or is it my monitor now? sheesh…

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      just kick it or something

      • KJP in Portland

        Too damned expensive, but I would like a reason to drive the 40 miles to Fry’s and get some ‘goodies’ for my desktop innards.

        • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

          Grr I miss Fry’s. We dont have them here in… the city close to tahoe that I live in <..> The closest one is Sacramento. The one close to where I used to live in the Bay Area was an Egyptian theme

          • KJP in Portland

            I haven’t been back to The Bay in 20 years. I was stationed there on the ENTERPRISE at Alameda, and then spent a few years knocking around Livenomore, Fremont and Redwood City. I’m a PDX native but I really liked The City down there too. Made a lot of friends there.

            I do have a friend that lives pretty near Squaw. He keeps wanting me to come down…He was with me the whole time in the Wx Office on the Enterprise. We even went to Wx School together after boot camp.

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              I love Squaw, I’m not too far from there, less than an hour. I’ve been wanting to take the tram up the mountain in the winter time. I’ve done it in the summer and its amazing. Just expensive and when I dont have an offer for it, I cant afford it

            • KJP in Portland

              I’d love to see that tram (and the view *grin*)

              I’m trying to do something (like message someone***) and I am sliding toward fail…

              I may have to give out code or something…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Yes I was watching the slow slide down the wall of fail waiting for it to click that you can just ask

            • KJP in Portland

              my initials and town all strung together at

            • KJP in Portland

              I’d better GOOGLE that

            • Johnny Tank

              Your comments are making no sense to me :-/

            • i-Betty

              They are to me! It all started with wine theft last night, and ended with IBB’s semi-sore head this morning πŸ˜€

            • KJP in Portland

              You know what I’m (we) are trying to do. Dammit I connected with one of the regs not long ago and I forgot how he got us connected. Now I’m looking like a candidate for Failblog! (speaking of which, I haven’t checked out in awhile)

            • KJP in Portland

              …and I can’t fully ‘delete’ a line. It just stays there under ‘Guest’. But…

              Couldn’t I add a post and then edit it to only contain like 1 character or something? which would act like a placeholder for the post? with the goodies deleted?

            • KJP in Portland

              I know…hehehe!

            • Johnny Tank

              I call shenanigans!

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Hey thats my line!

            • Johnny Tank

              I calls it like I sees it.

              Next time I’ll let you call it first πŸ˜‰

            • Ruby

              Google is hearsay

            • KJP in Portland

              Oh Borgy…you still here?

            • KJP in Portland

              She’s getting the wine opener out and got sidetracked…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Yep was downstairs getting things closed up so I could cuddle with the laptop in bed. super sexy

            • KJP in Portland

              Ahhh! I thought you went and stole the wine again! Still thirsty dammit!

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              haha nope! But I am getting up close and personal with a chilly bottle of A&W root beer

            • KJP in Portland

              I have a cold Pepsi, will that work?

            • KJP in Portland

              We should have a way to message on this thing…*gulp*

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              I couldve sworn you used to be able to,like on facebook. I cant find anything to confirm that though

            • KJP in Portland

              I will put some info in a line on my profile if you want…and I will leave it there for only about 3 minutes. You should see it and then you can reach me! Just let me know when…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              ok hang on i’ll say when. I have to run downstairs again right quick

            • KJP in Portland

              It’s there…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              got it

            • KJP in Portland

              k.

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              you should have a message

          • stillgrace2

            Oh yes, on Brokaw. Did you know that Fry’s was originally a grocery store in Santa Clara, CA? The family branched out to electronics and the rest is history.

            • KJP in Portland

              If only they had another store in each metro area. In Portland, we have to go halfway to Salem…

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              I did! I’m a bay area girl born and raised. Only been here in NV a little over a year. I remember frys grocery stores and thrify drug store ice cream

            • stillgrace2

              We were neighbors! Thrifty’s was right next to Fry’s. Both long gone, along with Cinema 150.

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              Sometimes I miss it and then I remember that my rent was cut in half, my car insurance went down, and the ratio of assholes to nice people is much lower

      • KJP in Portland

        I’ll have to tell ya about the old B&W TV my dad had that he used to smack to straighten out the picture when I was a kid. THAT was hilarious!

        • Elen

          Shall I confess that my top loading, 200 lb VCR just stopped working this year?

          • KJP in Portland

            Elen, Elen, Elen…tsk, tsk, tsk…That thing lasted 35 years…I call that a MIRACLE!

          • Elen

            And the “remote” was a plugged into the front with the options of “stop” and “pause” I’d have to warn guests…”don’t trip over the remote!”

            • tetloj

              I posted above about the remote before seeing this. I love it!.

          • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

            When I moved from California a year ago, I finally convinced my mother to get rid of her 8 tracks. We didnt even have a player for them, and they are nowhere near being worth money

            • KJP in Portland

              I threw out all my cassettes years ago…but get this, I still use old tube stereos with modern CDs! It’s a guy-thing. We all dig tubes, if we’re into audio…

            • Elen

              Well, my dad did hand the VCR down to me… he was a gadget guy… always first in line for the next new fangled thing!!

            • 1subgenius

              I had my tubes tied long ago.

            • KJP in Portland

              You get an upvote for that!

          • tetloj

            Good for you! That takes me back 30 years. Did it have a physically wired remote control?

            • Elen

              Yes!!

            • i-Betty

              Fantastic!

            • Robert Eckert

              What is this “remote control” of which you speak?

        • Ruby

          We had one of those!! A good smack to the top and, voila! All fixed!

          • KJP in Portland

            I remember our color set was in being fixed, so we got the old 23″ RCA out of my room to use. The picture would tilt at 45 degrees and my Dad would grab the fireplace stick and whack it to straighten out the picture…hilarious! My best friend STILL talks about it!

    • stillgrace2

      I had to reboot in the middle of the live blog. It worked.

  • Whoknew

    Has Craigslist always required phone number verification? Call me paranoid, but with this recent uncertainty about whether they’re in collusion with the church, I’d rather not give that out…or is this a stupid fear? With my postings could they tell my location anyway?

    • i-Betty

      There’s a section about the need for phone numbers over at Flag Spam Central, Whoknew. Do you have the link? I can give it to you if not πŸ™‚

      Basically, you don’t need to use your own telephone number.

      • Whoknew

        Ohh, okay. Thanks!

        • Whoknew

          Yes, could you give the link?

          • i-Betty

            Just incase you didn’t see the link, here it is again πŸ™‚

            https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-10

            It’s on page 10, currently.

            • Whoknew

              I didn’t. Thanks, got it now!

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              That is awesome, i-B — that whole campaign to counter the $cientology Inc. ‘lure the wog meat bodies into the shop’ via Craigslist Ads. And Anonymous is involved. And the Bunkerados. And together we can really drive their stats straight down not horizontal.

        • i-Betty

          https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-10

          I’ve had a speed-scroll through some of the pages either side of page 10, but I couldn’t find the relevant section immediately. Instructions are in there, though. You just might have to dig a little πŸ™‚

          • KJP in Portland

            Betty, Crap! isn’t it like 5am in my ancestral homeland?

            • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

              the i stands for invincible

            • KJP in Portland

              I hope not insomnia!

            • i-Betty

              It is, but I am seriously hardcore, and…the kids woke me from a deep sleep a couple of hours ago so I’m making hazelnut cookies. Cooking is my version of counting sheep πŸ˜€

            • KJP in Portland

              I’m both Scot and English…so wherever you are, I know it’s early! I think you told me once, but I’m not gonna press. Too many people here atm.

            • i-Betty

              Ah, no – it’s ok πŸ™‚ I live half an hour from London, so we’re South East England πŸ™‚

            • Johnny Tank

              I lived in Crawley from 79-84 πŸ™‚

            • i-Betty

              Nice πŸ™‚ Did you support Crawley Town F.C.?

            • Johnny Tank

              There was a football field very close to where I lived, but I don’t remember the name of the club there. It was only a small club I think. I was quite young at the time.

            • Ruby

              I was in that neck of the woods a few years ago when visiting some friends… πŸ™‚

            • i-Betty

              I thought I’d not seen my Roobs for a while! πŸ™‚

            • KJP in Portland

              My English ancestors come from the south too (1820s). My grandma rode the boat from Scotland.

            • Aslansown

              Cookies? mmmmmmmm…

      • Whoknew

        Oops meant to reply to you instead of me. Yes, the link would be great if it’s not too much trouble. πŸ™‚

      • Whoknew

        On the other hand, if someone gets in trouble with OSA, I’d hate for it to be some random innocent person who has the phone number I made up. Maybe I should give the local church’s number….

        • stillgrace2

          No, I agree. Don’t use anyone else’s real number and don’t make up a number. Just get a google or a skype phone number that you use just for verifying CL ads. Use an alternate gmail identity to obtain the number.

          Technically, when the counter-ads on CL contain the real sciloon’s contact information, that is a violation of CL’s terms. That means that cos can legally ask to have them taken down.

    • dbloch7986

      Not always but recently…yes

      • sugarplumfairy

        D! Yay!

      • stillgrace2

        Someone very special was in the bunker tonight! Any word on your application? You’re still planning on taking college classes, I hope? You have such a bright future, young man.

        edit: Oh Noes. I just realized I sound like an old lady.

        • dbloch7986

          Who was here? I can’t keep track of the comments anymore. My brain just doesn’t funcion like it used to πŸ™ I get all anxious and wound up trying to read everything lol.

          Indeed I do! Need to get myself settled and into the swing of things. UT is only up the road from where I work.

          • ThetaBara

            Austin is awesome, and so are you! I think the special person (SP, LOL!) might just be you. πŸ™‚

    • stillgrace2

      Use a proxy, a special PHONE number from google, a special gmail account. Keep your head down. Don’t let them dox you.

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        I used to have a link on how to do that but never got around to reading the site with instructions to using a proxy, etc. Now the link is in a very disorganized Favorites list.
        If it is handy, easy to access, and you have the time, could you send me a link (sometime) that gives DIY instructions? Thnx.
        P.S. Don’t worry and don’t bother if it’s a problem, StillGrace. Anyway, I started the process of reorganizing my links today and I’ll find it. (Holy moly do I ever have a lot of anti-cult and cult links from comments here in the Bunker, WWP, OCMB, and…. I think I need a laptop just devoted to $ci!! Unbelievable.
        Nite,nite…..

        • stillgrace2

          You just don’t want your real IP address to be linked to your ads. It can be as simple as using the computer at your local library to create your accounts and post your CL ads. Or it can get more complicated. I’ll see if I have any links that still work. It’s been awhile.

        • Miss Tia

          Argh, I remember now I was gonna make a video walking people how to change to their IP—because for me it’s easier to learn visually than reading…and I forgot (well no, I just got busy doing other things) to do that! I’ll do it today!!! I have to say i have the best luck becoming a canadian than staying in the US with proxies, so i’ll make sure i can CL with a canadian proxy first, test it out, then make the video, then post it on the new thread later today if i still have a voice (my allergies are bad today).

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Oh no, don’t work so hard and take care of your allergy symptoms first. It would be terrific, of course, but there is no hurry you know!

            P.S. “…i have the best luck becoming a canadian than staying in the US with proxies…”

            That means you’ve become part of the “Eh Team” so Welcome, welcome! πŸ™‚

            • Miss Tia

              yep, i spend quite a bit of time as a canadian! πŸ˜€ i enjoy my time on the “eh team” so thanks for the warm welcome!!! actually that’s good about the no hurry cuz i have pretty much lost voice…..damn allergies….my dr. is off tomorrow, but i have an appt. tuesday to get a kenalog shot….in the interim i am drinking tea with honey and researching some CO$ things…..i DO have a sticky note to make the video though!!!! if i have a voice tomorrow i’ll do it first thing!! πŸ™‚

    • Miss Tia

      I started a new sock account and they didn’t ask for a phone # from me. maybe it’s certain locales? my original CL account is so old I don’t recall giving them a # (and if i had given them one, i’d have no idea what the # would have been!). i just went and created a 3rd account and nope, no phone # request.

  • KJP in Portland

    I’m a ‘tard tonight. I forgot how to get around in Disqus and message someone. Can someone re-train me how?

    • Cloud

      I had no idea you could message Disqus users. I’d like to know too.

      • 1subgenius

        News to me.

        • KJP in Portland

          There was something I could do in the ‘notifications’ I thought…I’ll ask the person I talked to before another time about it. I think you guys are right.

          • KJP in Portland

            I ended up e-mailing with one of the gents here (well-known) and we did it kinda slick…I’m just trying to squeeze my pea brain and remember how we did it…

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Did you email or post a reply to each other?
              For instance, I sometimes backchannel someone by clicking on the avatar or username which pulls up their comment thread and you click on the one of their past posts or replies which then bring up an old post of Tony’s and then you can ‘chat’ sort of privately – either under Tony post of a week ago, a month ago, even up to Sept 28, 2012.
              Does that help? Was I clear in describing the process?
              However, if you ’emailed” each other somehow through Disqus – I don’t know how you can do that.

            • Aslansown

              Veeeeerrrry clever.

            • aurora50

              well, it works because I somehow get emails when someone comments to my comment… I have only once had it happen that someone contacted me that way, but it worked fine. Trust issues, of course…

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Oh, OK. Yes, that means when you registered with Disqus you asked to be sent “notifications” via email when someone replied to you. From that point, when you open up the email message, you can see twho replied to your comment and what they said. Then, from within that same email message from Disqus, you can choose to reply to the person who replied to you by clinking on “Reply to” and then that particular Bunker post and page will be opened up for you at the exact spot where you can type in your reply.
              Holy Moly! Did I make sense? If not sorry, I redo this in the a.m. It’s very late here and it’s the best I can do….. πŸ™‚

            • ThetaBara

              You can also update it to send (or not) notifications for replies to you. I find it essential with the volume of posts here these days. Just don’t select “follow threads” because DQ’s idea of a thread is what we would call a post (as in, a Tony post) so if you select that you will get an email for EVERY SINGLE COMMENT to that post, regardless of whether it is in what I would consider a “thread” (as in, this particular conversation). Learned that one the hard way!
              As with so many things. Sigh.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              Huge Comm Lag on my part, but thanks for that Tip! OMG, I almost did that a while ago! I would have freaked, then fainted – for sure.

              Or I would have slammed the laptop shut and hid under the bed covers…. like FOREVER!

            • aurora50

              well, sometimes that happens, and sometimes just the persons comment and a Reply box open at the very top of the current day’s thread…that can be very disorienting!

            • Robert Eckert

              If you know that the other person has that feature (I for example do not because my e-mail box already gets too much clog) then you can comment on one of that person’s comments from a longago thread– and then edit your reply immediately, so no-one else will see it (the e-mail notification will show the reply as first submitted).

            • ThetaBara

              You might need to wait a bit. Sometimes the edited posts come through.
              Also RE, you can always open a second mailbox just for this stuff… if you want to see followup comments, that is. Sometimes it’s really cool.

            • aurora50

              that’s what I did…and with the new google mail features, I just have all the Disqus go to another place, where I look at them a couple of time a day, if that…somehow, they are aggregated by which of Tony’s posts the comments are on…it’s kind of neat…there is quite a time delay though, between when someone replies here and it shows up in the mailbox…but I find that with gmail anyway…if my kids text and say they have emailed something, it is always delayed these days. Jeez, 5 years ago, that last sentence would have made no sense!

          • Johnny Tank

            If the person you wish to contact is “following” you, you may be able to contact them through your profile…

      • KJP in Portland

        Uh…crap…there went that idea…

        • Cloud

          Oh OK. I don’t get on Disqus enough to know much about it. Thought maybe others knew something I didn’t.

      • Johnny Tank

        Isn’t that something only the site host can do?

  • aboutandout

    Came in late to the party, but thanks Tony and all the bunker folks in Florida for the live blog. It really was just like being there. What an absolutely awesomeness community. Big ((HUGS))

  • Artoo45

    Sounds like a great time down in Clamland tonight (this morning their time). I do wish I could be there to meet everyone, but it’s a glorious, warm night here in the the wine country and I regained my Cornholio title from a young upstart (who nearly beat me). Good times all ’round.

    • KJP in Portland

      Hi 45. Been a while. I’ve been lurching around the morning crowd

    • i-Betty

      Lol, congrats, Artoo! I had to Hearsay ‘Cornholio’, and I’m assuming you don’t mean:

      Ruler of Lake Titicaca. Rumored to have a bunghole that gets very angry if it does not receive toilet paper.

      Thank you, Urban Dictionary!

      Could the word ‘bunghole’ be any more fabulous?

      • 1subgenius

        I was in a brewery once and they’re common there.

        • Ruby

          brewery? brewery? I’m there!

      • KJP in Portland

        No Beavis and Butthead over there, Betty? LOL!

        • Johnny Tank

          “I need TP for my bunghole!”

        • i-Betty

          Ohhh! Sorry! πŸ˜€

      • ThetaBara

        LOL! There’s a game called “cornhole” which involved tossing beanbags towards a target with a hole in it. My guess is that that is what is going on here. πŸ˜‰

        • KJP in Portland

          That’s funny!

      • Artoo45

        Bunghole is full of win. They used to just call the game “corn hole” but Bevis and Butthead changed that forever. Now I am once again the defending champinon of the Guffanti Invitational Cornholio Fol de Rol.

    • KJP in Portland

      Wine Country? You’re just below me a few hundred or so…was a gorgeous night here.

      • Artoo45

        Yes, Santa Rosa, the next largest city to your south, and recently cleansed of our Scientology Mission (though another one in Petaluma has allegedly opened.)

        • SopranoAscends

          It was a gorgeous night in the City. Families out, packs of boys and girls in shorts and cami tops. Venus was laser bright.

          • Artoo45

            I am a fourth generation San Franciscan even though I grew up in lots of different places. I moved back when I was 20 and stayed for ten years. I was talking to my dad back in the 80s, about how every time there’s the hint of a warm night, everyone practically strips down to their underwear. He said that it was always that way, people would just go out in sleeveless shirts, shorts and dresses and stroll around enjoying the the warm nights. Every generation thinks they invented everything . . .

            • SopranoAscends

              True! The young men in my house have a code phrase,”What lovely weather!”

  • i-Betty

    Sweet dreams, all πŸ™‚ Thanks for another great night. I suspect our Sunday Funnies will be a little late tomorrow (today), so we should perhaps start our own in this thread. Choose your favourite Sunday Funny from the past 6 months and discuss why via the medium of song/mime.

    N’night πŸ™‚

    • dbloch7986

      Goodnight!

      • Missionary Kid

        Hi Derek, are you where you need to be in Texas yet?

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Goodnight, Derek. It’s been great getting your updates!

    • i-Betty

      Eek, forgot the PSA.

    • Ruby

      night!

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      Nite, nite sweet cheeks!!

    • Aslansown

      Night Betty!

    • Johnny Tank

      Night, Betty!

    • KJP in Portland

      Goodnight luv!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Night… πŸ™‚

      • KJP in Portland

        Hi EO! Good to see you. What a night the folks had in Clearwater!

        • EnthralledObserver

          Back at ya, KJP.
          So it seems, I am envious as hell, but so glad they’ve been able to get together for their photographic mischief and are now sharing war stories etc.

    • aboutandout

      nite nite sleep tight

    • ThetaBara

      <3 you, Betty! Thanks for posting the PSAs. If it reaches just one it will be worthwhile.

  • i-Betty

    THINK FOR YOURSELF. NOBODY HAS THE RIGHT TO DO YOUR THINKING FOR YOU.

    Helpline:

    1-866-XSEAORG – The call is completely free and can be made from any public telephone

    If you’re a Scientologist reading this and you are having doubts about your religion, whether it be the doctrine, the incessant, relentless regging, or the leadership, but are afraid to leave because it’s all you’ve known, or you’re afraid of what to expect on the ‘outside’, please give the number on Glibby’s sign (below) a call; it’s totally free. You can speak anonymously and in strict confidence to somebody who can help you, and will receive non-judgmental moral support, as well as real advice for setting up your new life and getting back on your feet.

    I promise you, the outside world isn’t the enemy. As in all walks of life, some people are idiots, but most people are kind, hard working, honest, loving individuals, just living their lives. Many, many people have already left Scientology and are living happy, fulfilling, peaceful lives filled with family and friends – old and new – who love them. They, too, felt your fears as they began their break away from the church. Some took a leap of faith and discovered that the landing was soft, welcoming and forgiving. Some needed to take baby steps. But they all moved in one direction: towards the door.

    For them, every day is now an adventure and they are the architects of their own lives.

    You may be feeling:

    Sadness and loss over saying “goodbye” to those ideals in the group you thought you could admire, the fellow members you thought were your true friends, or the time and money spent following something which turned out to be false…

    Fear, that this may have been your last hope for happiness, success, enlightenment, or your eternity; that you are no longer protected by the powers of your leader and are vulnerable to evil; that you will make bad decisions for yourself without the group’s guidance, or that you will be punished for leaving…

    Loneliness, at the thought of leaving intensive relationships, and now needing to reconnect with family and friends who live in a manner that your religion criticized…

    Confusion, about what to believe, and how to make good decisions for yourself and your future…

    Guilt, possibly associated with having broken ties to loved ones, or for having recruited others into Scientology…

    Shame, when realizing you were involved in an organisation that maybe made you behave in a way that you’re not proud of…

    If Auditing and Training are still important to you they are both available outside the church, but without any of the hoops attached which you are currently expected to jump through…it is cheaper, and there will be no sec checking.

    It might help you to hear stories from others who were in your exact same situation. There is a great website called The Big List That Left Scientology. Here is the link: https://sites.google.com/site/biglistthatleftscientology/ Click on the alphabetical letters across the top to find people you may have known, and to read some inspirational stories.

    Last, but by no means least, the Freeloader Debt is NOT legally enforceable – that means they can’t make you pay it.

    Call those numbers. It might just be the first step to the rest of your life.

    And call your family. Please. They never stopped loving you and hoping that one day you would come back to them. Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays are near. Give them a call, send them your love. No guilt, no shame.

    We wish you so much luck and love.

  • KJP in Portland

    Now where did IBB go?

    • Johnny Tank

      She left hours ago. I’m going too. Lock up when you leave.

      Good night.

  • Sherbet

    Howdy, if you’re here, and if you can, please visit the Rodeo.

    • Ruby

      Is it ok to ask how does one do that? I have heard much about the Rodeo but do not know it from personal experience.

      • KJP in Portland

        I’m up (and bored) tag?

        • Sherbet

          In all honesty, to Ruby, Whoknew, KJP, and anyone else who’s interested, I really don’t remember the process to become a member of the Rodeo. It was the interim meeting site of the posters who used to follow Tony at the Village Voice. When he left the VV and before he created the Bunker, we would post there. I think you’d call it a forum; no live chatting like in the Bunker. Anyway, somebody started the site, and you had to be approved to become a member, and all the members were recognized Village Voice posters. That’s how trolls were excluded. Maybe someone who knows can give you a reply about joining. Or maybe there are no more new memberships? I honestly don’t know. I’m kinda dumb about social network-sort of stuff.

          • Missionary Kid

            You sent your answer to KJP. I’ll let Ruby know that you answered her here.

            • Sherbet

              Thanks. I wasn’t sure how to respond to all three who asked about it.

        • Missionary Kid

          KJP, I added some of your nicknames to the DM list. You’ll recognize them. It’s done as a reply to Bury at http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/29/sunday-funnies-nothing-but-unstoppable-scientology-expansion-in-every-direction/

      • Whoknew

        Yeah, I used to be there then stopped once the Bunker was up…would like to revisit.

        • Sherbet

          If you were a member, all you have to do is go back in with your user name and password.

      • Missionary Kid

        Sherbet answered you accidentally, sending her answer to KJP, just below you.

        • Ruby

          Thanks MK.

    • Captain Howdy

      O.K

      • Sherbet

        General Discussion.

  • Observer

    I just saw an ad for After Earth on DVD–that didn’t take long!

    • Sherbet

      Oh, boy, my Christmas shopping is done!

      • ThetaBara

        What about Christmas Shooping!
        Obs and Mark, please?! I promise to at least pretend to be asleep!

        • Sherbet

          Now that I think of it, though, I like my friends and family. Why would I torture them with tepid scientology in the Bomb of the Summer… Of course, there’s that one nasty cousin of mine. She gets After Earth AND Oblivion. Heh heh.

          • Missionary Kid

            I think you might get arrested for harassing her. That’s cruel and unusual punishment, unless she’s a stoner.

      • stillgrace2

        snort! I sorta watched Battlefield Earth today. I had it on while doing other stuff. I was just curious if it was just bad enough to be fun to watch just to make fun (an art form perfected by a nephews). NOT!!!

        • Sherbet

          I’ve mentioned this before: My son has always been a sci fi fan, but he couldn’t make it through much of BE. He bailed out after something like 20 minutes. I was long gone by then, myself. It’s just plain unwatchable and unintelligible. I felt embarrassed for JT. It isn’t fun in an MST3K way.

          • stillgrace2

            I did laugh when really important things happened, and they didn’t show it on screen, just people’s reactions. You just knew they didn’t have the budget or the FX bandwidth.

            • Sherbet

              It was the equivalent of seeing the zipper down the back of the Japanese monster’s costume. Shabby, shoddy, eye-poppingly bad.

            • stillgrace2

              Speaking of zippers on monsters … the latest Ironman just came out. Mr. Grace was waiting at Fry’s when they opened last Tuesday. I always wondered how they filmed the scene where the thirteen people fell out of the plane and Ironman saves them. Well, the DVD ‘s special features had a featurette on the making that one scene!! Worth the price of the DVD all on its own.

            • Sherbet

              I haven’t seen that one yet, but thanks for the heads-up. I love those special features.

            • Sherbet

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VY33IXgZp6E

              I’ll leave you with this short video. Just realized it’s almost 1:30 a.m. Goodnight.

            • stillgrace2

              Goodnight. Hope to see you at the Funnies tomorrow.

          • stillgrace2

            My nephews hold their own MST3K parties. They invited me to one. I belly laughed so hard. It could have been a comedy special on TV.

        • Robert Eckert

          One reviewer said “it laps around on that so-bad-it’s-good scale until it’s back to just being bad.”

          • stillgrace2

            Oh yeah! That reviewer nailed it. It was painful to listen to Travolta. He had to know it was a dog while he was making it. He did, right?

            • Sherbet

              Um, didn’t he tell the press it was going to be better than Star Wars?

            • stillgrace2

              Oh no. Delusion. Oh … wait … nevermind.

            • Missionary Kid

              With DM breathing down his neck, he did the expected.

            • ThetaBara

              Star Wars wasn’t actually all that good either. It was groundbreaking, sure. But it was basically American Graffiti with space ships. Although, he should have said, “it will be like Star Wars, only worse!”

            • Robert Eckert

              You would hope he did, but he was still talking about making BE II (painfully long though it was, BE only covered half of Hubbard’s dreckulent book).

            • Sherbet

              “dreckulent” — Great word, Robert E!

            • Missionary Kid

              I caught dreckulent. I’m going to put it in my list of descriptions of LRH’s writing and speech.

            • Robert Eckert

              I actually paused at that point trying to think of an appropriate adjective.

            • Missionary Kid

              Boy, it is appropriate. Thanks.

            • Exterrier

              Count Drekula?

            • Missionary Kid

              That goes on the list of LRH nicknames. Thanks.

            • Exterrier

              I am proud of that one, and proud to make a new list of yours. What a great service, Mish.

            • Missionary Kid

              You should be proud. It’s a good one.

        • EnthralledObserver

          I watched Battlefield Earth before I got into $cieno watching… picked it up really cheap because it had JT in it, and naively believed it must be good simply because he was in it. Nope, genuine, untainted by anti-scientology bias, horror and shock at how bad it was. JT’s performance was actually the worst… might have been bearable had he not did that bizarre laughing and reactions. Then it all made sense when I found out about LRonny and Scientology, and Davey Makemerich’s involvement.

          • It’s like Gore Vidal said about a performing group, sometimes no talent isn’t enough. πŸ˜‰

          • Nevermore

            Yup, that’s why I watched it several years ago – JT was so bad I actually wondered if the film was some kind of not very good piss-take of sci-fi films. Weird and bizarre.

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Was it awful, Obs – did you see it?

      • Observer

        Nope, wild horses couldn’t have dragged me into a theater to see that.

  • Missionary Kid

    O.K. everybody. The list of DM nicknames has gotten so unwieldy that I figured that I’d start posting it on an older Sunday funnies. As of this point, there are 291 nicknames, and I figure that that list kind of clogs up everyone’s reading. For now, I’ve posted it on Last Sunday’s comments, as a reply to Bury_The_Nuts so that it doesn’t float around. About Tuesday, Oct. 8th, I’ll post it again on the Sunday Oct. 6th comments.

    If you want to see the list, go to http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/29/sunday-funnies-nothing-but-unstoppable-scientology-expansion-in-every-direction/ and look at the comments. It’s close to the top.

    • Sherbet

      Kid, I’m waiting for the day when there’s only one DM nickname on your list: Jailbird.

      • KJP in Portland

        I like that name, Sherb…I want to see that prison jumper on him!

        • Sherbet

          With the numbers in Roman numerals. Convict No. (OT) VIII.

      • Missionary Kid

        I’m going to add that to the list as “Future Jailbird” and “Convict No. OTVIII”

        Go to: http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/29/sunday-funnies-nothing-but-unstoppable-scientology-expansion-in-every-direction/

        • Sherbet

          You are unstoppable, Kid.

          • Missionary Kid

            Kinda like someone allergic to niacin who gets a dose or a bad penny that keeps coming back?

      • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

        That is L O L, S. Totally. !!

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      That’s a cool solution, MK

      • Missionary Kid

        Maybe what I’ll do is keep the DM series there, and put the LRH AND Co$ ones on alternate Sundays.

      • Missionary Kid

        I may leave that one there, and then on succeeding Sundays have other lists. We’ll see. I’m evolving my approach.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    I am so tired!
    And it is SO earned!

    • EnthralledObserver

      You are my heroine… not the drug kind. After Tony, I come here for you. πŸ˜‰

      • Missionary Kid

        Bury is kind of like a drug. I like the pun: heroine/heroin.

        • EnthralledObserver

          It’s amazing what a little ‘e’ can do for you… also not the drug kind. :p

    • Sherbet

      Well, well, Miss Thang! Some of us can only worship Tony from afar and hobnob with De and Glib via the typed word. But you, Missy, you’ve made many of us sooooo jealous. I’ll have to wait until Tony is autographing his book at the Boston Barnes & Noble. Sure, I don’t mind waiting. I’m only chopped liver.

      • EnthralledObserver

        At least you get that possibility… is Tony coming to Australia… like, ever? *sigh*

        • Sherbet

          You never know how far that book tour will take him, EO!

          • EnthralledObserver

            πŸ™‚ I’ll hold out hope, no matter how far fetched…

      • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

        That’s a sure bet, S. !!

    • KJP in Portland

      You guys were cool! Did ya ever get to moon them? (I know, prob not).

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Lol’ no.

        • KJP in Portland

          I understand the sadness of it all, but the immature in me, with a bunch of alcohol consumed, I just might have done it!

    • ThetaBara

      Yay Bury! You had fun for all of us tonight! πŸ˜€

      • Sherbet

        I think she fell asleep. She’s never been this quiet.

        • KJP in Portland

          She had a helluva night! I wouldn’t blame her for zonking out at all.

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      you guys are rock stars!

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Man, Bury- that was the coolest thing!!! You and the crew of Bunkerados, and Tony O in the Limo in Clearwater. STELLAR !!! !! !

  • KJP in Portland

    Facebook is so SLOW tonite! Sheesh!

    • Sherbet

      I wouldn’t know. I don’t “do” FB. I’m one of the last holdouts. I refuse. I don’t care what my brother-in-law’s cat is doing.

    • Miss Tia

      i noticed that last night when i checked in, not many updates from anyone….

  • Sherbet

    Turning it over to the overnight crew. Goodnight/morning, all. See you in the Bunker on Sunday.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Later… πŸ™‚

    • Missionary Kid

      Sweet dreams.

    • KJP in Portland

      (((hugs)))

  • KJP in Portland

    I’m here if anything cool starts up. Just talking to someone and surfing…just holler at me.

    • EnthralledObserver

      It always gets quiet here around this time of day…

    • Missionary Kid

      About 3 hours ago, I left the Bunker and went out to get something to eat. There were maybe 1200 posts. I left just as Tony reported being in CW. Boom. We’re now close to 1860. Dammit! My buddy dragged me away from my computer just as Tony started the thread.

      It was like raw meat for starving lions. Boom. There was an explosion.

      • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

        Zactly, MK!! It was a ravishing: Urban Dictionary, “It can mean to fill with joy, delight, charm, captivate, attract.” No doubt, compelling!!

        • EnthralledObserver

          When I first jumped on this early this arvie (or was it late morning, not sure) there were only about 700 comments… four hours later more than double that…

  • DodoTheLaser

    This is probably not the same Limo, but it kind of is…

  • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

    Just going to leave this here in the hopes that every shoop we make pushes Davey a little more over the edge *refresh* The big head is a happy accident of my horrible shoop skills

    • stillgrace2

      A mug shot is something delicious to dream about. If I may point out a “little” something: he appears to be 5′ 11″ (71″) in this picture. He’s probably thrilled right now. I don’t know exactly how tall he is (I think it’s a guarded ecclesiastical secret), but I think he’s closer to 5 ‘ 3″ or 63″ tall.

      • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

        Good point! I’m horrible at shoops so i missed that detail, though its pretty funny that his height is showing at 69. The immature 12 yr old in my brain giggles

        • stillgrace2

          No, it’s a good one! You could take it into Microsoft Paint and replace the “69” with a text that reads “57”. Then you could work down: 54, 51, 48, 45. That would make him
          4′ 11′. That should get to him.

          • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

            L o L !! – That sounds like a plan, IBB!! Eh ?

        • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

          Your shooops are cool, IBB. It’s the creative idea that counts, really- not how seamless and perfectly one can disguise the changes technically.

      • Missionary Kid

        DM is 1.60 meters tall.

        • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

          Oh cool ! Ya’ think, MK?
          1.60 meters = 5.25 is 5′ 2 1/4″
          5 feet 2 and 1/4 inches
          maximum height 62 1/4″

          Dave Savage Miscavage is
          truly the Maciavellian Midget, the Asthmatic Dwarf and like
          **all** of Missionary Kid’s list !!!

          • Missionary Kid

            Thanks. I appreciate the compliments, but the lists are good because there’s good, smart people here.

            For the height of DM, He’s actually 5.25 feet, which is 5’3″.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Oh. Right. Math.

            • Missionary Kid

              I know, picky, picky, picky.

              Metric units are much less complicated. Feet, inches, yards, is the way to making mistakes.

            • NormanTheGnome

              Wow!i didn’t actually know his true height.Im 5’6″ and I thought I was vertically challenged.that makes watching the Knee-High Nazi sing “We Stand Tall” so much more fun.lol!

            • Jo

              We’re not vertically challenged, 5’6″ too. I always thought we stand tall was a strange choice tune for DM. No I’m not obsessed with my height, god dam it, I am.

            • NormanTheGnome

              I know right!?specially his fist pumping,”tone 40″ antics on th video.like he truly believes he stands tall.lolz!i personally embrace the height..big thing come in small packages.I kno

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ve found that height doesn’t really matter, but, as MLK would put it, “the measure of the man.”

              Under any standards, DM doesn’t measure up. He’s an asshole. BTW, Knee-High Nazi just went on my list of DM nicknames. You can find it in one of the first comments at http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/29/sunday-funnies-nothing-but-unstoppable-scientology-expansion-in-every-direction/

            • NormanTheGnome

              Very true,i know first hand how much of an absolute asshole he really is…thanks for the add to the list.it warms my heart to be part of the fun. πŸ˜€ hopefully I can bring more to the table in the future.

            • Missionary Kid

              Did you have personal contact with the Knee-High Nazi, or were you a subject to his whims?

            • NormanTheGnome

              Hi MK,sorry I took so long to reply.busy few days..I was more a subject of his whims than anything.As usual with DM he got others to try and “handle” me…a subject im still wary to talk fully about..as I still have loved ones in the Sea Org..*sigh*

            • Missionary Kid

              I hope they know that you’ll be there for them when they leave or it collapses. There seems to be more hope.

            • disqus_SPiN5N4Adl

              wow. have you measured him?

            • Missionary Kid

              No, I haven’t. His height, as reported at a number of sources is 5’3″. That translates to 1.6 meters. I Hearsayed it.

              His stature is lower than a pig’s snout, as far as I’m concerned.

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Yes! It’s grand all except a re-do with the height maximum 63.5 on that scale, as Dave Savage Miscavage is maximum 5′ 3 1/2″

      • stillgrace2

        For the record, I am not SG2, thank you very much. You can call me Grace or you can call me stillgrace, but please don’t invent a new name for me here in the bunker.

        • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

          Okay, Stillgrace2, I hear you. No worries.

          • stillgrace2

            stillgrace. thank you.

          • Jimmy Threetimes

            Why did you make a new account? Weren’t you BeverlyHillsBob or something a day ago?

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              No, not a new account. I have many, many Avatars for the World Wide Web. If I’m signed onto Disqus with one Avatar that I prefer using on a blog somewhere in the world, and I pop over to the Bunker and use it and post, why is that a big deal. It’s an anonymous posting blog. I’ve posted with now 7 Avatars on the Bunker. You can let me know what is wrong with that. Why that would weird-out **any** Bunkerite. So I can see what you mean.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Yes, a new account. You created it less than 12 hours ago. There are people here who create and discard personalities as simply as one would change their shirt. And BeverlyHillsBeer had the same avatar as the one you’re using now, and the new acct is instantly recognizable as the old, so I don’t really understand the switch. But at the same time, I don’t really care. At least you admit to using multiple accounts.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              What does “at least you admit” mean, JT? Sounds so like a sec-checker. What’s your beef? If I want to change “Beer” to “Be Do Have’ in the past 12 hours what the frig do you give a crapola about it for?

              If it is a Bunker protocol thing, I don’t know what you’re talking about. And I’ve posted that in the past few hours. So give with info. or get off your high horse.

            • DodoTheLaser

              With all respect, how do you know JT was Sec Checking before? Oh, it was a joke! Right!? Also, Be Do Have – really? What shade of a scientologist you are?

              My apologies if I somehow misconstrued it all…

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              My shade is ‘never in’.
              I’ve been Anonymous working a tiny little bit with whatever tiny little effort I can bring to the downfall of Miscavige and Co$.
              That’s why I’m surprised by the weird reaction to a post I didn’t see as being anti-Bunkerite. I shall continue on in the Bunker with one of my handles that doesn’t cause such upset in a few Bunkerites. I’ve posted reactions to you, DTL for months, with another handle, actually, with other 2 handles.
              I always enjoy your posts. And will continue to do so. But not with BHBBDH. Ciao!

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              What I meant by you admitting to it is that it distinguishes you. Everyone else who uses sock accounts intentionally hides it or lies about it. And I don’t set or enforce protocol here, but it is more of a common sense thing: people are put off by those who change their profile regularly or post under multiple profiles. There is an inherent dishonesty in it.

              As for the sec-checking comment, it is not going to rile me up, if that’s your intention. I was never in and never gave or received sec-checks.

            • DodoTheLaser

              You sure know the lingo though. I do not doubt that are never-in, btw.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I know the lingo just from what I’ve read, and I’ll often check the dictionary at xenu.net

              It turns out you can consult a dictionary or reference without being a Scientologist! πŸ™‚

            • DodoTheLaser

              Epic link. And a good point re – dictionary! πŸ™‚
              How did you get interested in this subject?

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I had intended to write about Joseph Smith for an assignment, and some of my research started overlapping with LRH. Then I fell into a YouTube hole on the subject of Scientology. I eventually stumbled on xenu.net and I followed a link to here.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Thank you for answering. What kind of assignment? For school?
              You don’t have to answer.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              No, for the New York Times.
              (yes, for a class)

            • DodoTheLaser

              Ok. Ty.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Not a prob. When I started posting here, I just started posting. I didn’t know that an introduction was expected. If people are suspicious of my motivations for coming here, I will write up an informal intro and explanation.

            • DodoTheLaser

              You don’t have to. Just be yourself. Thank you for contributing here.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I’m happy to have your blessing of acceptance, but I don’t deserve your thanks. You seem to have contributed much more than I ever will. Thank you, sir.

            • grundoon

              No introduction is expected. But if you wish to introduce yourself, we would be delighted to get to know you a little better.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Not to rile you. But to characterize your behavior. As a never-in myself, I only imagine what security checks must have been/are like.
              I don’t see using multiple handles as deceit. You do. The Bunker does? Okay- I get that. But I **never** would have thought that, unless you had mentioned it here. I’m not hiding or lying about it.
              And one’s common sense in another’s naivetΓ©. So you assume way too much. I **never** would have thought that people are put off by multiple profiles. We’re all anonymous, so what does it matter — is how I looked at it.
              But I hear you. And I’m glad to have the information, on how people react to such, in the Bunker. I have commented to you many times with another handle, no- another 2 handles. I am happy to have the input, so as not to disrupt Tony O’s thing. As you may have read, I have corresponded with Tony at the Village Voice many times, regarding various and sundry. I was on the Bunker the 1st day it opened. I was one of the 1st donators, via the setup when it first appeared.
              I shall disappear BHBDH and post as I have since Fall 2012 when Tony opened his doors. Ciao.

            • Davka

              There was a commenter who was banned for saying vile abusive things who would switch avatars and well, it felt like a bait and switch. That is probably the source of it, although I do think that some Bunkerites may take their suspicions too far…..but I understand the background behind it – now you do too.

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Thank you, Davka. I never would have imagined the ‘bait and switch’ thing. JT has hipped me to the fact how multiple handles/avatars are viewed in the Bunker. I’ve been in the Bunker since day 1, but mostly with quick on and off visits, albeit regularly. So, I never came to understand the problem I was generating by multiple handles et al.
              I think some Bunkerites take their suspicions too far, also, Davka. Then they sound to me very similarly to the people/actions/behavior we all stand against in the Bunker. It’s kind weird. Especially for a never-in.
              However, with all the agony that Co$, Hubbard and Miscavige have injected in people’s lives, I have no problem changing my activity here, so as not to rile folks up. Thanks again, Ciao ~

            • stillgrace2

              Would you be so kind as to list your seven identities within the bunker? We like to keep track of these things around here. I’ve posted as Grace, stillgrace, and stillgrace2. What are your identities, with all due respect, of course?

            • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

              Of course, stillgrace, with all due respect. No- I’m going to post with the one I choose and stick to that one. Ciao.

            • grundoon

              Changing your pseudonym or avatar is not a problem per se.

              It’s only a problem if you’ve been banned and try to come back under another name (afaik only 2 or 3 people have ever been banned from here)… or if you’re pretending to be more than one participant in a thread (“sockpuppets”) to simulate agreement or stir up a fight, for shenanigans or trickery… or if you’re a known troll hoping to avoid recognition.

              Sometimes people have to change because they forget their password, or Disqus forgets it, or they’re posting away from home. Some people suddenly think of a name that suits them better. Some people change so they won’t be confused with another similar name. Occasionally someone “comes out” and begins posting under their real name. Usually they announce or explain the change, although it’s not required.

              It’s your choice. But sticking with a consistent identity makes it easier and more comfortable for the rest of us to converse with you, and keeps you from being mistaken for a noob.

            • DodoTheLaser

              BeverlyHillsBeer

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Yes, thank you

          • Seannie5

            Somebody called me S5 the other day and I thought it was cool. I don’t care what people call me lol!

            • stillgrace2

              If someone abbreviated your name to S5, it was certainly this guy. He’s renaming everyone. You might not care and I respect that. I can only speak for myself. A new guy coming into the bunker and chummily renaming me is not what I want.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Is there any way to get a current statement out of the IRS regarding their position on the new developments and evidence of wrongdoing by $cientology and Makemerich? Has anyone tried recently?

    • Missionary Kid

      I’d like to see the attorneys with the various lawsuits going do if after they’ve got their pound of flesh.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I don’t know the right way to go about it, can anyone seek a statement, or would a politician need to be convinced to do so?

        • Missionary Kid

          A member of Congress would bring attention to it.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Currently, IRS is partially affected by the US Government’s shutdown.
          Hopefully it will be over soon and it will return to its normal operation.

          How Do You Report Suspected Tax Fraud Activity?
          http://www.irs.gov/Individuals/How-Do-You-Report-Suspected-Tax-Fraud-Activity%3F

          It’s probably not that simple, but the above link is a start.
          There’s a number of interesting forms.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Obviously not being a US citizen I cannot, and have no right, to act on this… anyone else who lives there want to give it a go, or have given it a go? Any results? (When the Govt issues are resolved, I mean)

            • DodoTheLaser

              If anyone did or will do, I doubt they will announce it here or anywhere at this time.

            • EnthralledObserver

              If secrecy is imperative, sure I understand… I just wanna know, being impatient and all… haha :p

            • DodoTheLaser

              I don’t blame you for wanting to know. Same here.

              I’m not a legal expert and the things I posted above are just my assumptions.
              For all I know, top scientologists and their top (tax) lawyers are laughing right now.
              But it makes sense to me.

              Also, Garcia’s ongoing case comes to mind.

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Dodo mentioned the current shutdown, but it should also be noted that IRS is still recovering from a manufactured “scandal” involving their scrutiny of organizations filing for tax-exempt status, which is what they SHOULD be doing, but I don’t think they are in a position to be making any waves right now. The IRS has always been very unpopular with the right-wing of our country. Some extreme right-wing nut jobs will tell you that the IRS is unconstitutional and is in fact a criminal organization. There are many others on the right that are sane, but would side with Scientology if it gave them an opportunity to publicly shame the IRS.

          • WhatWall

            What upsets some people is that there is no due process with the IRS. You must prove your innocence to them. If the IRS says you owe them money, you must prove that you don’t (within an IRS-specified time period) or they will garnish your wages, seize your bank accounts, etc.

  • KJP in Portland

    I will see everyone in the morning! It is 2332 here on the West Coast and I am pooped! Goodnight!

    • EnthralledObserver

      C u later… πŸ™‚

    • Ideal Borg Bunkerite

      okbai!

  • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

    Just want to turn toward Tony’s Saturday 05 October 2013 post: Karen De La C., J. Swift and The AG Pope: excellent 2 videos describing aspects of the financial superstructure in $cientology Inc. Your productions are an important part of exposing the dishonest and reprehensible leadership of Dave Savage Miscavage, Board Chair of Co$, Head of CST/ CSI/ Author Services Inc./ absolute controller of all Scientology enterprises/ and Captain of Sea Organization. Terrific work. Thank you ~

  • valshifter

    I went by the big blue building today, and at the light stop at the corner of Sunset and LRH way there were an older sea org guy and a younger girl being trained on how to route people from the street, when I approached them the girl immediately jumped and informed me of the deal; to watch a “free Dianetics” video and with authoritative voice she told me ” come on this way” (I guess she was using Tone 40 or something).. the older guy was looking at her with gleaming eyes and an approving smile, I asked her how much is that going to cost me? she told me is free, I replied, “somebody told me its all about money in there”, pointing to the building, she told me IS TOTALLY FREE, I told her, I don’t want to loose my money, and she kept on screaming IS FREE, IS TOTALLY FREE COME ON THIS WAY. she became more desperate as I started to walk away and kept on screaming is free, is totally free, and I kept on answering her I don’t want to loose my money….as I walked away I saw her hopeless face and turned to the older guy with incredulity in her eyes… is my little way of protesting against the cult, plus maybe that little girl might give it a second thought as to why I said is all about money in there and think about it.

    • BeverlyHillsBeDoHave

      Good-going Val !!!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Great job! I just LOVE stories like this.
      It made me think what I might do should I ever have the opportunity to confront some poor SO at some point. The ‘rhetorical question’ would be my weapon of choice… because no matter how hard they try, they can’t really lie to themselves.
      So, my questions… “Do you have to share a room like a child has to?” “Does your {chirch} treat you like a child, restricting your pleasures and freedoms because you can’t be trusted to regulate yourself?” And several more along that vein… depends on how many I get in before they flee.

    • Room 101

      I know far too much about this activity. Yes, you did the right thing. Don’t goad them and get into sarcastic arguments with them, but stating something as simple as, “I’ve got friends who lost their family due to disconnection” is super super impinging.

    • Seannie5

      Am I alone in thinking that blue building is the grossest looking thing? I haven’t seen it in person but in pictures it looks really ominous.

      • DodoTheLaser

        You are not alone.

      • Victoria Pandora

        john sweeney called it the “concrete angel” apt description.

      • Zana

        It’s not just one building. There is a whole block of blue buildings … Some on each side… That are all painted the same color blue.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It’s hideous.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Be back later… off to watch NRL final. Well, I’ll eat… the fellas can watch the footy.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Good news update:

    So, I said hi today to a scientologist who knows I was SP declared and he said hi back and actually looked happy to see me (normally they just pretend I don’t exist).

    I posted Tiziano’s video on my FB and Twitter yesterday and also sent the link to some scientologists.
    They didn’t block me nor unfriended/unfollowed.

    It may seem like not a big deal, but it actually is.

    More good news later.

    The Shrinking Cult of Scientology
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UFZVHfel4

    • stillgrace2

      I am happy to hear this. This really is a big deal. The tide is turning.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Thank you! It really is!

    • Exterrier

      Yes, that is powerful. I think we need to attach that Exit the Sea Org number, or the Leaving Scientology help site url to everything now. It just may be a flood. The Super Power fiasco might be the last straw, plus the high pressure regging for donations rather than services. And how can they not avoid the news these days.

    • Seannie5

      That is great!

    • Interested

      It is a huge deal. Wow congrats. Damn still not coming up on YouTube for me.

    • Mrs Libnish

      That is awesome progress! Keep at ’em.

  • stillgrace2

    19,266 views for Tiziano’s film on You-Tube! And a comment from Tony that’s only 2 hours old. Geez, does our proprietor ever sleep?

    • DodoTheLaser

      When Tony is asleep, his cats are up. And vice versa.

      • stillgrace2

        Well, then, the cats made an excellent, cryptic comment. In response to a commenter that said:
        “this video is cool, but something tells me all of theseο»Ώ people are actors.” , one of the clever kitties replied: “Nope. None of them are.”

        • DodoTheLaser

          Michael Fairman is the only actor in that video that I know of, but he was not “acting” in it.
          Just speaking as himself, so as everyone else.

          • stillgrace2

            Yep.
            I didn’t see your cat photo until just now. I am SO going to text it to my son in the morning. He’s Batman, too.

  • aquaclara

    Away for the day, and I miss live blogging from Clearwater and 1943 comments….unbelievable!

    Looks like a fabulous time!
    The tent photo is SP delicious….of course, the cult calls the cops for precisely this- “there are people standing on the sidewalk.” Not to wake Jeb up again, but those are tax dollars at work. Well, it’s part of the tour.
    Thanks for the fun, everyone. I’m going back to bed.

    Oh, and might I recommend Lenny’s for breakfast?!

    • AsthmaticDwarf

      Go away for a few days and the whole scene shifts!! Totally unbelievable, A !!! Wow!!!

    • DodoTheLaser

      Is it Lenny’s or Lemmy’s? πŸ™‚

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L_VEdra0wUE

      • Captain Howdy

        It’s Lemmy πŸ™‚

  • Nevermore

    Helpline:

    1-866-XSEAORG – The call is completely free and can be made from any public telephone

    If you’re a Scientologist reading this and you are having doubts about your religion, whether it be the doctrine, the incessant, relentless regging, or the leadership, but are afraid to leave because it’s all you’ve known, or you’re afraid of what to expect on the ‘outside’, please give the number on Glibby’s sign (below) a call; it’s totally free. You can speak anonymously and in strict confidence to somebody who can help you, and will receive non-judgmental moral support, as well as real advice for setting up your new life and getting back on your feet.

    I promise you, the outside world isn’t the enemy. As in all walks of life, some people are idiots, but most people are kind, hard working, honest, loving individuals, just living their lives. Many, many people have already left Scientology and are living happy, fulfilling, peaceful lives filled with family and friends – old and new – who love them. They, too, felt your fears as they began their break away from the church. Some took a leap of faith and discovered that the landing was soft, welcoming and forgiving. Some needed to take baby steps. But they all moved in one direction: towards the door.

    For them, every day is now an adventure and they are the architects of their own lives.

    You may be feeling:

    Sadness and loss over saying “goodbye” to those ideals in the group you thought you could admire, the fellow members you thought were your true friends, or the time and money spent following something which turned out to be false…

    Fear, that this may have been your last hope for happiness, success, enlightenment, or your eternity; that you are no longer protected by the powers of your leader and are vulnerable to evil; that you will make bad decisions for yourself without the group’s guidance, or that you will be punished for leaving…

    Loneliness, at the thought of leaving intensive relationships, and now needing to reconnect with family and friends who live in a manner that your religion criticized…

    Confusion, about what to believe, and how to make good decisions for yourself and your future…

    Guilt, possibly associated with having broken ties to loved ones, or for having recruited others into Scientology…

    Shame, when realizing you were involved in an organisation that maybe made you behave in a way that you’re not proud of…

    If Auditing and Training are still important to you they are both available outside the church, but without any of the hoops attached which you are currently expected to jump through…it is cheaper, and there will be no sec checking.

    It might help you to hear stories from others who were in your exact same situation. There is a great website called The Big List That Left Scientology. Here is the link:https://sites.google.com/site/… Click on the alphabetical letters across the top to find people you may have known, and to read some inspirational stories.

    Last, but by no means least, the Freeloader Debt is NOT legally enforceable – that means they can’t make you pay it.

    Call those numbers. It might just be the first step to the rest of your life.

    And call your family. Please. They never stopped loving you and hoping that one day you would come back to them. Thanksgiving and Christmas holidays are near. Give them a call, send them your love. No guilt, no shame.

    We wish you so much luck and love.

  • DodoTheLaser

    KR accordingly: http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf

    “NATURE OF VIOLATION:

    Directors/officers/persons are using income/assets for personal gain

    Organization engaged in deceptive or improper fundraising practices”

  • EnthralledObserver

    Back…

    • DodoTheLaser

      Good…

      • EnthralledObserver

        Waiting…

  • Jeb Burton

    Tony, can you give us a wrap up on your big night in our town? I have the the perfect headline, “Fear and loathing in Clearwater”. Im also real curious about which bar you were in. Im pretty much familiar with all of them. I also think that a new star was born, Bury, She was a scene stealer.

    • Jo

      Ha, fear and loathing in Las Vegas, friggin awesome book and movie. Can only imagine the shenanigans those guys got up last night, hangovers all round.

      • 1subgenius

        Great movie, but as per usual, they left out one of the best scenes from the book.
        Hunter takes his rented car to a gas station and tells the guy to put 100 pounds pressure in the tires (so he can do donuts down the strip).
        Oh, don’t worry, they’re experimental tires.

    • WhereIsSHE

      I go away for a weekend to attend a family wedding, and I miss Bury being a “scene stealer”??!
      WHAAAAAHAPPPENNNNED???!

  • Sydjazz

    $50,000? I feel ripped off. What did i learn?

  • Sydjazz

    Can we start a bunker religion?

  • I am

    At that time, he was in the Sea Org. He was considered to be no different than an older person, but he possessed a young body and was useful to be used as a money mule for LRoon.

  • maranathasoon

    Doesn’t the IRS give a % of the proceeds to an informant who helps them discover tax cheats? If I’m correct on that, it occurs to me that some folks could be making a pretty penny by ratting out on this cult/ponzi scheme.

    Dave