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Scientology Mythbusting with Jon Atack: Fair Game!

ALSO, IN TODAY'S POST: Is there a subliminal message from Lisa Marie Presley on the back of this T-Shirt? See below!

ALSO IN TODAY’S POST: Is there a subliminal message from Lisa Marie Presley on the back of this T-Shirt? See below!

In 1990, author Jon Atack published what is still one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology, A Piece of Blue Sky. Atack now has a new edition of the book out, and it reminded us what an encyclopedic resource he is. So we had an idea. In the world of Scientology watching, we noticed that there seem to be some legends, myths, and contested facts that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet. With Atack’s help, we’re going to tackle these issues one by one, drawing on Jon’s deep knowledge and sharp sense of humor.

Jon, this week we wanted to ask you about one of Scientology’s most hurtful and notorious legacies — its history of going after people with what it calls “Fair Game.”

For decades, there is quite a well documented pattern of Scientology hiring thugs to harass, intimidate, and attempt to destroy people for so much as criticizing the church publicly. Where did this ruthless, cloak-and-dagger practice originate in Scientology?

JON: It comes from L. Ron Hubbard’s early idea that there are “merchants of chaos” who would later become “Suppressive Persons.” He formalised his harassment in The Scientologist: A Manual on the Dissemination of Material, in March 1955, where he says: “The DEFENSE of anything is UNTENABLE. The only way to defend anything is to ATTACK” (emphasis in original). Hubbard goes on to say that if anyone tries to practice Scientology without a license, they should be sued: “The purpose of the suit is to harass and discourage rather than to win.” He adds: “The law can be used very easily to harass.”

THE BUNKER: What in Hubbard’s life do you think convinced him to write that? Was it just the time period, the McCarthy years, and he was absorbing that era’s paranoia? Or were there things in his life which convinced him that it was best to attack?

JON: He was paranoid from the outset. I think the attempt by Sara, his second wife, to have him restrained by psychiatry was significant (Lawrence Wright misses that one of the first Dianetics foundations was run by a psychologist, and initially Hubbard had no difficulties with that end of the profession). Hubbard’s application to the VA for psychiatric help in 1947 shows that he didn’t distrust psychiatrists back then, either. He later used the House Committee on Un-American Activities (HUAC) to attack both Sara and the man she was with after Hubbard, Miles Hollister. Given his generally drug-addled state, it is hard to pinpoint the exact moment, but Hubbard became convinced that anyone who criticised him was out to destroy him. Ultimately, he came to believe, as he wrote in Hymn of Asia (published in 1974, but written 1955-56), that the future of humanity depended upon him. It’s convolute:

See me dead
Then I will live forever
But you will
See
An Earth in flames
So deadly that
Not one will live
Fail once to stem a hand that smites
Against me and
I die

From the same text:

Appoint Amongst you
Some small few
To tell about me lies
And invent wicked Things
And spread out infamy
Abroad and Within
And to stand before
Our altars
And insult and
Lie and tell
Evil rumors about us all

Hubbard was an opportunist, willing to use any trick or trap to pull down an opponent.

THE BUNKER: One early Dianetics adherent was the very good science fiction writer A. E. Van Vogt. He later had a falling out with Hubbard. And we read recently that he may have been an early victim of Fair Game, which affected his career for several years. Do you know anything about that?

JON: Van Vogt told me that he was always treated kindly. He gave a glowing review of Battlefield Earth, but didn’t actually share Mitt Romney’s adulation for that text. He said he hadn’t read it, but that Hubbard was an old friend. He stopped writing when he met Dianetics — a terrible loss, as he was such a remarkable story teller. When the supernatural stuff started to appear, he set up his own shop — one lifetime only — which came to be known as Idenics. I’ll try to remember where I put his letters, to see if my memory serves me well.

The first case of Fair Game proper was Fred Hare, who was chased by a raving mob of Scientology staff members through the streets of East Grinstead [Hubbard’s headquarters from 1959 to 1966]. The Fair Game Law had just been developed as a spiritual technology, and this application was perhaps enthusiastic, though in his policy letter “The Responsibilities of Leaders,” Hubbard says quite clearly that it is best not to tell the leader about any necessary murders…

Fair Game is tangled up with the Ethics Conditions, and is really the lowest. It was called “sharkbait” on the ship [Hubbard ran Scientology from the yacht Apollo for most of 1967 to 1975], and overboarding was a form of punishment to cleanse away the suppressive taint. The images of overboarding from Auditor 41, proudly labelled “L. Ron Hubbard,” are still the most shocking and the legend — “bequeathed to the deep” is utterly bizarre. Hubbard’s sadism seems to be played down. I’m not sure if that isn’t because he managed to be perceived as a religious figure, rather than a mercenary narcissist with his own intelligence agency.

Overboarding

The Ethics Condition of Fair Game encourages believers to persecute non-believers in “any possible way,” which should lead to them either being “destroyed” or able to rise to Confusion on the scale. This is, of course, religious scripture, as approved by the theologians of the IRS (along with the scripture that says you must mix up your files before submitting them to the IRS — I’ll bet they didn’t realize they were mandating that when they accepted Scientology’s alpha male position.)

THE BUNKER: And what about Hubbard’s decision to rescind Fair Game? What prompted it, how should we read it, and what evidence was there that Hubbard himself continued to direct Fair Game operations after supposedly cancelling the policy?

JON: Hubbard did not rescind Fair Game, he merely said that the expression would no longer be used, because it generated bad public relations:

HUBBARD COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE

Saint Hill Manor, East Grinstead, Sussex

HCO POLICY LETTER OF 21 OCTOBER 1968

Remimeo

CANCELLATION OF FAIR GAME

The practice of declaring people FAIR GAME will cease. FAIR GAME may not appear on any Ethics Order. It causes bad public relations.

This P/L does not cancel any policy on the treatment or handling of an SP.

L RON HUBBARD Founder

If former Scientology official Bill Franks is right — and I have every reason to believe that he is — Hubbard directed the fair gaming of author Paulette Cooper throughout the 1970s, long after the term Fair Game was withdrawn. The evidence is very clear that Paulette was subjected to every aspect of Fair Game — she was tricked, lied to, harassed, and sued.

At the Clearwater Hearings, in 1982, evidence was presented which clearly showed that Hubbard directed the Fair Game harassment of Ernie Hartwell. In the chapter Making Movies, in Blue Sky, we find:

A few days later, Ernie Hartwell was asked to sign a bond for $30,000, payable if he said anything bad about Scientology. Infuriated, Ernie pointed out that he had kept his part of every bargain, while the Scientologists had kept to none. He demanded a letter from them, saying they would leave him alone. After half-a-dozen futile meetings, the Scientologists raised their demands. Ernie was to sign a statement that he had been an alcoholic all his life, had abused his children, had been a poor father and provider, had murdered his father, and owed Scientology $60,000. The threats and harassment continued for several months. Even the FBI raids had failed to halt the excesses of the Guardian’s Office.

Eventually, worn down and scared half out of his wits, Ernie felt compelled to do exactly what the GO was trying to prevent. To protect himself and his wife, he went to the police and told them the whole story.

Somehow the GO persuaded a newspaper to run a story saying Ernie Hartwell had tried to extort money from Scientology. Television picked it up. Ernie was one man against a powerful organization. Eddie Walters, who was working for the Las Vegas GO at the time, has since confirmed the Hartwells’ claims of harassment. Another witness has testified that Hubbard himself ordered that Ernie Hartwell’s confessional folders be “culled” for anything reprehensible.

Indeed, there are many witnesses to the systematic “culling” of confessional folders throughout Scientology over a period of many years, with the purpose of finding material to blackmail individuals into conformity with Church objectives. Mary Sue Hubbard wrote an order in 1969 for the GO to use this as an information gathering tactic. During the making of the Tech films, most of the crew’s folders were similarly culled for potentially useful information.

I was subjected to Fair Game for a dozen years. I’ve recently heard that Scientologists in East Grinstead took taxis so that they could spread rumours about me through the local taxi drivers. But while I was active, my house was broken into twice, I was reported to any and every authority (curiously at exactly the same time as a friend, which rather exposed the culprit). In 1993, a defecting intelligence agent told me that there were five people in my circle who sent reports to the cult. These included my driver, who let the cult know that I had a legitimate search warrant for Saint Hill (luckily, I found out before we went), because a Scientologist had boasted that he had read my medical records, indicating that they had been stolen. A vicar was told that I had attempted murder and was a rapist. Private investigator Eugene Ingram traveled the world to collect information about me, using the standard “We’re collecting information about his criminal activities” line. He accused my parents, then in their seventies, of growing cannabis (he didn’t have Hubbard’s intimacy with tomatoes, it seems). In the US, I was followed for days on end by gun-toting private eyes. The list goes on for pages. But none of it was called “Fair Game,” because that causes bad public relations…

THE BUNKER: And still it goes on, as we’ve documented numerous times. Something tells us, after the dust settles on the church’s current crises, it will be its legacy of Fair Game that outlasts it.

———————

IS LISA MARIE SENDING OUT A SUBLIMINAL MESSAGE ABOUT SCIENTOLOGY?

As we pointed out the other day, Lisa Marie Presley is back in the news, but not for anything new. After we pointed out, in our Voice stories, that two of Lisa Marie’s songs from her new album Storm and Grace, left really no doubt that she’s ditched Scientology, other reporters were hearing from her that she was only able to do the album after she got away from the grasping influence of a lot of meddlers. She didn’t call them Scientologists, but the implication seemed obvious. Now, a journalist who was told the same thing at the time has written a new story for Dame magazine, and that has spurred a flurry of new stories at Perez Hilton and the E Channel, for example. Lisa Maria herself, however, has said nothing new, and has still not spoken specifically about Scientology. As we’ve pointed out numerous times, because she has family members still in the church, she will find it very hard to talk publicly about what seems obvious in her songs.

And now, perhaps, in her T-shirts as well.

Last night, MissWog, one of our regular readers, pointed out to the forum posters at the Ex-Scientologist Message Board that at her website, Lisa Marie is selling a T-shirt that has a mesmerizing word on its back.

Take a look for yourself. As MissWog points out, the lyric being quoted comes from Lisa Marie’s single, “You Ain’t Seen Nothin’ Yet.” It reads, “You can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails … you ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”

But the word “evil” is highly stylized, and MissWog and others are saying that they can also see it as the word “cult.” They wonder if there’s supposed to be a subliminal message here, of an “evil cult.” What do you think?

LMP_TeeBoth

Well, we’re not sure. But if it is a playful game from Lisa Marie, it might be as much as we’re going to get from her until she is no longer in the position of losing contact with her own family members because of the toxic church policy of “disconnection.”

———————

LINKS OF NOTE

Hey, check out the new Ex-Scientology Kids! Jenna Miscavige Hill has revamped the site that she, Astra Woodcraft, and Kendra Wiseman started back in 2008. It sure looks sharp, and we’re honored that one of the featured stories is one we did at the Voice about Valeska Paris.

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Posted by Tony Ortega on February 22, 2013 at 07:00

 

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  • OMG! Must have one of those shirts!!

  • Patty Moher

    Come on Lisa. Stop toying with us! Give Tony the real interview!+

    • 1subgenius

      I have hopes for the tag “You ain’t seen nothin’ yet.”

      • Missy Wog

        It is a message in a message..watch the music video for the song too! Lots of clues in that too I think 🙂

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Especially dumping that chain in the water.

      • Roger Larsson

        Hubbard barbequed critics on an open fire instead of the criticism.

        He went for the owner of the balls instead of the balls?

        Why barbeque chickens on an open fire when it is their cowardice that ought to be barbequed?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Good Morning Roger….thank you for reminding me I needed more coffee.

          • Captain Howdy

            Hee Hee

          • Roger Larsson

            Some bread to the coffee

            Scientologists don’t have to do any own thinking.

            All they have to do is to attack the ones doing own thinking.

            • OK – wake and bake time

            • Missy Wog

              Not a bad idea! Happy Sunday!

            • Yeah – i have given up trying to understand scientology for lent.

            • Captain Howdy

              Happy Sunday ? You’re not baked, you’re burnt.

            • Missy Wog

              HAHAHA!!! I guess I just want next week to get here already DOH! I keep thinking the Oscars are tonight too! And I’m not baked or burnt.. I’m pregnant & sometimes it feels the same LOL

            • Ziontologist

              ” I’m not baked or burnt.. I’m pregnant & sometimes it feels the same LOL”

              Besides the brain, the organ with the most cannabinoid receptors is the uterus …

              I read this in Michael Pollan’s “Cannabis, Forgetting and The Botany of Desire.”

              http://www.erowid.org/plants/cannabis/cannabis_culture13.pdf

            • Missy Wog

              Thanks I read that..and while I’m not smoking pot I am eating a ton of chocolate! And no, I am fairly certain I will not have a silent birth. Ie heard if women did remember how painful it was they wouldn’t do it again, so something has to make us forget. That’s a neat link!

            • Ziontologist

              It really makes you wonder. As a man, I can’t imagine what a “stretch” it is to give birth, and it makes me ask, why is nature so brutal? But you females find a way, with grace and never ending beauty, and it is truly inspiring.

            • Captain Howdy

              Congrats on the bun and job well done on the t-shirt. I would have been Mr Pitt trying to unfocus to see it without someone pointing it out.

            • Ziontologist

              Here’s a lovely painting, “Dejeuner Sur L’Herbe” (Brunch On the Herb).
              It has a reduced depth perception, which is supposedly associated with a rejection of realism, in favor of depicting the inner lives of the subjects … L Ron Hubbard said smoking hashish messes up your anchor points (distorts your perception of space) … this painting by Edouard Manet in definitely in the “sur l’herbe” style!

            • why is it that only the chicks end up naked at a hash party ?

            • Ziontologist

              Exactly. My first thought was why is she naked? And, being naked, why don’t the men notice her?

            • Male haze gaze.

            • Ziontologist

              And what do YOU see, Dick-hard Cain? In your “male haze glaze?” Your rapacious lusting for BTN?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Unfuckingreal Z!!!
              And so off base you have no idea.

            • Ziontologist

              You are so cute I could eat you up! Don’t deny that you ARE. SO. LOVABLE!!!!

            • I don’t wear the male haze glaze glasses, so no. And as BTN2 says, you are really off base on that one. Very much so.

            • Ziontologist

              You said it, not me … Mr Male Haze Glaze! I mean, how else could it be interpreted?

            • Ziontologist

              And as far as BTN goes, consider yourself cock-blocked!

            • Captain Howdy

              Zion, Deckard is a woman.

            • Ziontologist

              For real?
              My God … he’s a woman .. it almost humanizes him!!!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Her.

            • Ziontologist

              For real? Like Tommy Grrrl?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Well I don’t really think Deck really wanted to have a gender associated to blog posts.
              I know you are not a misogynist, so I guess it wouldn’t matter how you pursued a dialogue with Deck. So I think rape is safely off “la table”.

            • Ziontologist

              It is still some kind of rape, no?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Whose?

            • Ziontologist

              Good question. I’m thoroughly confused! I still can’t believe Deckard Caine is a woman. That’s scary.

            • face meet palm.

            • Having studied quite a bit of feminist theory, I was making a joke about the naked lady surrounded by the two fully dressed “intellectuals” and combining the feminist theory about the predominance of the “male gaze” in a lot of art with the comment about hashish. Hence, “male haze gaze”.

              It was a fucking joke. Sheesh.

            • FistOfXenu

              Maybe because women are nicer to look at naked? 🙂 Most of us guys just can’t stack up without our clothes.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Not sure I agree with ya there Fist!

            • FistOfXenu

              ha, maybe it’s a matter of personal taste then. I know which I’d rather look at, but I guess you’re right.

            • Ziontologist

              You are so happening!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Are you on a sarcasm roll or what?

            • Ziontologist

              xoxo

            • BuryTheNuts2

              OK then, I will think about it!

            • Ziontologist

              I love saying “sur l’herbe” for the sheer frisson of it!

            • BuryTheNuts2

              ssssnort!

            • Ziontologist

              For real? Are you psychic? Why did you say “haunting?”

        • Captain Howdy

          The chickens go in through the front door but the foxes go in through the back.

          • Roger Larsson

            DM has a chicken farm in his closet. The farm of Scientology has a trade in chickens
            instead of in the broilers promoted in campaigns. It’s false declaration of content this distributor of superiors is engaged in. A Lisa or a Pat Broeker coming out from the closet makes personal gains if nothing else and foxes don’t dare to attack real broilers.

            • Captain Howdy

              Roger, someone I use to know was in prison with Charles Manson and when he introduced himself to Manson that’s what Manson said to him and walked away. “The chickens go in through the front door…”

            • Roger Larsson

              That’s the truth.

              When I was a preclear in the 80’s I wrote some letters to LRH and suddenly he died. It was not on purpose. That foxy bastard had tricked me to be the head of scientology. A week or two did I hold the top position.

              In the 90’s I controled Sweden a week or two and in comparison was the control of scientology a fart in hell.

              A planet needs to be controled by someone or maybe I just stay in the fairylands.

            • Ziontologist

              “The chickens go in through the front door but the foxes go in through the back.”

              What did Charlie mean? That the only way to get to know you is through criminal activity??

            • Captain Howdy

              The chickens i.e the civilized squares, walk through the front door like they’re conditioned to do but the foxes i.e those outside of society get in by hook or by crook to get what they want.

            • Ziontologist

              Thx.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Thanks yet again Roger!
              Broiled Chicken for dinner it is!

            • FistOfXenu

              What about a JT or a TC coming out of the closet? Besides Stan getting his closet back who gains what?

            • Roger Larsson

              If the creator of “candid camera” Allen Funt had educated the creator of “scientology” Ron Hubbard how to complete cycles to every ones satisfaction he had told his unaware actors scientologists to smile because he had a greed for money, power and fame and they had left his show with a laugh.

            • nessness

              trade in chickens? how many box-tops do you need to trade in chickens? I thought Scientology had enough chickens… indeed a surfeit of chickens. The foxes are perhaps on this site. Broilers are too hot to attack except with someone who will pull the plug,

              Can I try one more non sequitur? Ness

            • Roger Larsson

              A scientology no longer standing for the entertainment opens up for squirrels but they aren’t stuck in the money trap as C of $ is.

    • BosonStark

      I would like to see Sci-lebrities be as blunt as possible — like Haggis or Beghe. None of the active clams will really get Lisa’s message. They’ll just think she needs more auditing, or that she’s singing about the suppressive WOGs. Enough with the codes and games.

      • Roger Larsson

        The good in scientology is promoted in scientology and the bad is audited out as bank (enturbulated theta)

        On the outside of scientology is the bad in scientology promoted and the good is audited out as bank (bullshit)

        Awared picks the door out from Scientology instead of the bridge.

    • For realz!

  • MarionDee

    A lot of work went into that design, and it sure looks like the word “cult” to me. In fact, it takes more work to see it as the word “evil.” I can’t believe it’s not deliberate; making “cult” and “evil” look identical needs some fancy footwork.

    • 1subgenius

      Indeed.

    • agreed.

    • Observer

      Yep, “cult” is what jumped out at me too. I think it’s too blatant to be a coincidence. That is some brilliant design work.

    • dwayners13

      I noticed the same thing, it seemed that it easier to read cult rather than evil.

    • villagedianne

      I saw the word ‘evil’ first.

    • dwayners13

      CULT was the first word I recognized, in fact if it wasn’t for the article I’m not sure I would have seen it (had the word be by itself). When you read the sentence leading to the word, you can see it.

    • Mr. Fabulous

      Yes. I agree. Before I read the article I looked at the image and the word “cult” jumped right out. Only after reading the article did I also notice it read “evil” as well.

      • Good on Lisa! Thanks, Tony, Jon and Bunker 🙂 Great article!~ “The only way to defend anything is to ATTACK” (emphasis in original)”..this and Hubbard’s “Fair Game” both, imnsho are what truly is and will continue to bring DOWN the phony “church” of $cientology.

    • Gus_Cox

      I saw “evil” first, which I guess speaks to my state of mind 🙂 Anyway, I ordered one right away, and it arrived today… it’s a great-looking shirt!

  • 1subgenius

    She has been married to 2 Scientologists with whom she has children. Don’t know if current husband is still in, but with the kids, and mom, this situation is complicated.

    • Patty Moher

      Ya, I have to agree with you. Plus I get the feeling she’s still a very fresh ex member and may still be a Scientologist that thinks DM is the why. I’m hoping she does a book. Lisa’s journey out of Scientology is one book I would love to read.

  • Sidney18511

    Is her daughter Riley a Scientologist?

    • 1subgenius

      Being raised in it, and with one parent still in, makes it probable. Could not find confirmation.

  • Captain Howdy

    Jon Atack is the James Bond of $ci critics, he’s so suave and cool. Even his name is perfect, and it strikes fear into the empty hearts of Sci-Borgs and SMERSH agents alike.

    Thank you for your time, Commander Atack.

    • FistOfXenu

      Good comparison, Captain Howdy. But now I’ve got this image of Atack strapped to a table as a laser (lawsuit) burns its way to his cojones, and a whole load more just like it. Now here’s the question. Is he the Sean Connery Bond, the Lazenby Bond, the Moore Bond, or one of the others ones?

      And yeah the name is perfect. The way to handle $cientarCONon bullshit is never defend, always Atack.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        The 2013 Oscars has a Bond theme…All of them.

      • Captain Howdy

        He’s the David Niven Bond in “Casino Royale”…Ha Ha come on, there’s only ONE Bond.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e1SvsOWQlAA

  • After all these years I had no idea that “fair game” was actually the condition below confusion. WOW.
    When is Jons new release going to be availible on kindle? I’m reading “Have You Told All” right now but it’s not gonna last long.
    Great book and I am looking forward to Tony reviewing it.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      It is available now. Click on the link above. I just ordered it this morning.

      • oh cool, i just finished “have you told all” this second! thanks bury;)

  • “The first case of Fair Game proper was Fred Hare, who was chased by a raving mob of Scientology staff members through the streets of East Grinstead”

    I find that image terrifying and sort of funny, too.

    Speaking of terrifying and funny did anyone make it to John Sweeney’s talk in the local pub there or does anyone have any info on how it went down?

    • SciWatcher

      He was fantastic–a good turn-out, too. There was one heckler of sorts (OSA?) who bizarrely started ranting at John for not criticizing the Catholic church for its abuses, but who left after a few minutes. Will hopefully have some video to post to YouTube soon.

  • Vistaril

    Thank you for clearing up that “Fair Game was cancelled” acceptable truth which is *still* doing the rounds. Its a bit like the “L Ron Hubbard cancelled disconnection” acceptable truth which, of course, is just another example of L Ron Hubbard’s semantic gymnastics. The truth is that disconnection was cancelled “as a condition” of the cult and, instead, was imposed upon individual Scientologists to do as their personal choice. Thing is, the policy document was only a sop to the New Zealand Government (Dumbleton-Powles) Enquiry (and the Australian one, I think) and was never fully circulated within the cult. Yep, another PR effort. Meanwhile, disconnection carried on unabated and as directed by Hubbard. Further, if Scientologists refused to disconnect, they lost their eternity and could make no further “progress” on their Birdge To Xenu.

    Anyhow, I’m lovin’ this series. MOAR!!!

    • RMycroft

      The best part was in the 80s, during one of the endless Wollersheim cases, they tried to argue in court that Fair Game was a protected core religious practice. (“That policy that you’ve previously said was cancelled?” “Umm, yeah…” “Riiight!”)

      Legalese:
      http://www.lermanet2.com/reference/wollersheim.htm

  • B.B. Broeker

    God, Hymn of Asia is just terrible. it really may be the most painful Hubbard text.

    • Vistaril

      Heh! It is certainly a shocker but far from the most painful.

      Men Of Reason

      The men of reason
      Nurtured light
      To save a battered
      Earth

      The men of anger
      Scrambled high
      To kill all things
      Of worth

      The men of anger
      Raged and fought
      And out of anger
      Die

      That spot of light
      Upon yon cliff
      Has often guttered low–
      But men of reason

      Try again–
      A thousand eons
      So.

      Plenty more where that came from: http://www.ronthepoet.org/poet/contents.htm

      • sugarplumfairy

        Yayyyyy!!! Vistaril is in the building!!!

        • Vistaril

          [blush]

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yummy. More L.Ron word vomit.

      • Captain Howdy

        Moar painful:

        Laugh a Little by L Ron Hubbard

        When the world seems down on you
        And grey clouds hide the sun
        When tears and rain commingle
        And life’s no longer fun

        Laugh a little
        Laugh a little
        Ha ha, Ha ha
        Ha ha, Ha ha

        When all the world around you
        Is deep enmeshed in frowns
        When mother, sister, aunt and wife
        All seem to have the downs

        Laugh a little
        Laugh a little
        Ha ha, Ha ha
        Ha ha, Ha ha

        No need to weep or rant or rave
        Or grind your teeth or shout
        For if you laugh why then you’ll soon
        Find something to laugh about

        Ha ha ha ha
        Ha ha ha ha . . .

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Now I know where BM got his sctick from.

          • Captain Howdy

            BM ?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              You don’t remember our troll BM?
              He of a thousand Ha ha ha ha’s?
              He had a crush on Sugar Plum.

            • sugarplumfairy

              ahhhhh.. Memmmmmmories.. light the corrrrrners of my mind.. misty, watercolor memmmmories..

        • Observer

          When your pinks and greys don’t work
          You’re the Commodore, do not shirk!
          Round up those slacking, dense SPs
          And throw them overboard into the sea!

          Laugh a little
          Laugh a little
          Ha ha, Ha ha
          Ha ha, Ha ha

        • B.B. Broeker

          And can’t you hear Syd Barrett singing that one?

        • grundoon

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hnzHtm1jhL4
          They’re coming to take me away
          Ha ha
          They’re coming to take me away
          Ho ho, Hee Hee, Ha ha
          To the happy home
          With trees and flowers and chirping birds

          • Captain Howdy

            Now we’re on the right track.

        • When mother, sister, aunt and wife
          All seem to have the downs

          Women’s feelings are so unimportant and funny! Ha ha!

          LRH: extreme misogynist, or most extreme misogynist?

          • Missionary Kid

            That’s a hard choice. He’s not as extreme as the Taliban.

      • Observer

        Ugh … a putrid hack trying to sound erudite. A shallow puddle trying to appear deep.

      • B.B. Broeker

        Can’t you hear Geddy Lee singing that?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Oh my gosh. Absolutely! I can even hear the music.
          I am scared now.

      • Vistaril

        Once was guru named Hubbard
        Fat, ugly and something of a sluggard
        He stole human soles
        Put children in holes
        And smiled all the time they suffered

        Then along came Anonymous
        Following behind a certain columnist
        With plenty of cake
        And justice to make
        They set to work with schemes anomalous

        . . . who’s up next?

        • sugarplumfairy

          Roses are red
          Violets are blue
          God is dead
          Co$ is here for you..

          It’s not what you thought?
          You don’t like what we do?
          You’re out-tech and SP
          it’s the hole for you..

          ron hubbard, he said
          “scientologists, sue!”
          The more you bitch,
          The harder we screw..

          • Captain Howdy

            Yea baby, rock’n’roll nurse FTW !

            • sugarplumfairy

              Yah!!! Free the whales!!!!

              =)

        • Ziontologist

          Sometimes I dream songs, with lyrics that rhyme beautifully, but when I wake up, I can only remember a few lines.
          When I first got into Scientology, I dreamed I went to the mission in the middle of they night when they were closed.
          L Ron Hubbard was there, alone in the dark.
          He picked up a cane and a hat, and started to do a song and dance (think vaudeville):

          If you want a cognition,
          Let me do my rendition

          I wish I could remember the rest!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Oh my god………This just totally made me picture LRH as Mr. Six from the Six Flags commercials.

            BAAAHAAAHAAAA.

            • Ziontologist

              No, it wasn’t like that, but you are entitled to your own interpretation!

        • q-bird

          oh! Sweet! So clever & wonderful (had to look up anomalous tho) :-p

        • Scientology
          Described in a bad haiku:
          This isn’t the right number of syllables but LRH says it is

          • Ziontologist

            To know how to know
            First know that it is bullshit
            If you are to know

            Ah, you see? It’s like War of the ROSES!

    • grundoon

      Absolutes are unobtainable.

      • Observer

        Especially with anything Scientological, because it’s always worse than you think.

  • sugarplumfairy

    “…Hubbard says quite clearly that it is best not to tell the leader about any necessary murders…”

    soooo.. Adherents read this and then continue to adhere? That’s pretty amazing.. The worst thing my church makes me do is kiss the feet of a statue..

    • the “acceptable truth” (teh tech word for lie) is, “oh that ron, he’s such a joker.” of course no one else was allowed to kid around because that was considered joking and degrading. i think i also read somewhere that the guy who put that overboarding picture in the magazine got in a heap of trouble.

    • FistOfXenu

      “…Hubbard says quite clearly that it is best not to tell the leader about any necessary murders…” – but DM insists not only on hearing all the details after but micromanaging it all before. Sooner or later he will be caught and unlike RON he won’t have any cut-outs between him and his crimes.

      • Roger Larsson

        Hubbard’s game consisted of freedom prisons or hidings and purposes.

        Unexposed criminals are on purpose.
        Exposed criminals are off purpose.

  • Missy Wog

    Thank you so much for showing the tshirt Tony!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    That T-shirt is awesome.
    Subliminal may be the wrong word Tony.
    snicker.

  • EnthralledObserver

    I think the word ‘cult’ is actually more prominent and legible than ‘evil’. Not sure, but my guess is that it is deliberate. You couldn’t stumble on that, surely?
    Fair Game: I don’t really understand why and how the cult gets away with all the stalking it does legally… seems really weird to me. TC chucks a legal hissy fit about being called a deadbeat dad, but the cult can run around saying someone is a murderer and rapist with no recourse? I imagine it, again, is all about who has the money… it is always about who has the money, innit? *sigh*

  • Harwell, not Hartwell. I knew Ernie and Dell at WHQ back in the late 70s. My strongest memory of him is his climbing out of one of the swimming pools one day wearing his white boxer shorts instead of swimming trunks.

    • TonyOrtega

      Blue Sky, Bare-Faced, and St. Pete Times from the Clearwater Hearings all have “Hartwell.” As does a newspaper, the Evening Independent, reporting charges filed against the Hartwells by the church at the time. You sure they all got it wrong? I’ll keep checking.

    • B.B. Broeker

      Wasn’t Ernie Harwell (no “t”) the longtime Detroit Tiger’s radio play-by-play man?

    • Vistaril

      Interesting lasting image to have of Ernie ; )

      Just asking . . . re the Harwell/Hartwell thing, are you perhaps thinking of Ernie Harwell the baseball guy?

  • sugarplumfairy

    “This is, of course, religious scripture, as approved by the theologians of the IRS (along with the scripture that says you must mix up your files before submitting them to the IRS — I’ll bet they didn’t realize they were mandating that when they accepted Scientology’s alpha male position.)”

    I love Jon Atack..

  • BosonStark

    When people are under stress, they are probably more susceptible to paranoia. Hubbard’s fledgling organization was in danger of failure, just as Dianetics faltered. Even before Dianutty, Hubbard got himself into tight situations, with Parsons for example. He must’ve felt under stress when he flunked out of college too, and we know he was under stress about his writing career. That’s all on top of his various mental problems and insecurities.

    Scientology is a form of institutionalized paranoia, but I wonder if the adults who join sometimes are attracted to conspiracy theories or are paranoid themselves more than most people? After all, to be a Scientologist, you have to take on a lot of Hubbard’s paranoia.

    There are also real things to be paranoid about in Scientology, in that sunlight is deadly to the operation and sale of it to others. Not only will your case be ruined, if you say or even think something out of line, but Scientology is not going to rake in money if you work in an Org and start telling the raw meat about Xenu, for example. Just keeping all their secrets makes a member paranoid. Therefore, Sea Org members and employees, at least, always have to be ready to “attack.”

    A recent example of this would be with Wright. Rather than explaining to the public, that Scientology will not grant interviews, or condone their members to do so because any journalist not working for the cult, will reveal unflattering or non-promotional information about them — including secrets, what they really believe ,or how they really operate. Instead, they say something to the effect:

    “Wright’s book is rehashed tabloid material with no interest in facts or meeting with real Scientologists.”

    Scientology really is a piece of work. Not only do people like Jon Atack and Gerry Armstrong have to pick up the pieces of their shattered lives when they wake up, leave and wrestle with the realization it was a trap, for years, they have to deal with being fair gamed or restricted in speaking freely.

    When it collapses, will there be gangs of Sea Org members chasing the SPs down the street again?

    • A lot of people that subscribe to conspiracy theories have inflated narcissistic views of themselves and/or their place in the world. Most conspiracy theories are built from an event (or series of events) that can usually be explained by a simple sequence of facts, but the simple sequence of events does not fit into the grandiose and idealized vision of ones self (and ones self importance to others) so they invent or buy into conspiracy theories to negate the actual sequence of facts thereby making the event fit into their bloated image of themselves in the world.

      • Ze Moo

        Q: What happens when a paranoid has low self-esteem?
        A: He thinks that nobody important is out to get him.

        Conspiracy theorists believe others control their general environment, paranoids believe others control their direct circumstances. If you think the CO$ is going to come after you because of your postings on this board, you are a paranoid. Only Senior Ortega and some of the former scientologists who come around have real reason to expect the hired goons will come around.

        I used to think that scamatology had given up the real use of fair game. Who has had the police sent to their house by child welfare departments because of ‘anonymous’ (not the 4chan, hackers) reports of child abuse? Who, besides Marty Rathbun has PIs watching them? Well, Tory Christman (magoo) has had visits attempting to intimidate her. Miscavige’s private investigator budget seems to be paying plenty these days.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Fair game is alive and well in scientology land.

          • Ze Moo

            “Third, the tactics may have changed on the grand scale campaigns, but
            it has now become a full out effort by members themselves to play out
            smaller scale campaigns. Fanatical no longer describes the OSA wedge of
            this madness, it’s the whole enchilada.”

            Haven’t the local scieno’s always had their ‘small scale campaigns’? The recent WTSP tv interviews with Jenna Miscavige Hill have surprised me. Tampa Bay is right next to Clearwater, yet no known retaliation yet. The Tampa Bay Times has done wonderful articles on the CO$ yet no known fair gaming or retallation yet. The ‘upper end’ of scamatology doesn’t seem to fair game anymore, it all seems to be local stuff.

            There are exceptions, Marty Rathbuns x-wife and his kids were sent to harass him, the squirrel busters were an attempt to intimidate by stupidity.(2008 or 9?) Mike Rinder doesn’t seem to be drawing much scieno attention, why? The dwarfenfürher has a short list of people that he harasses these days with private investigators. While fair game is still be active, it has become rare. Why?? Lack of funds doesn’t do it, CO$ has at least 1 billion in cash. I think the backlash from exposing fair game attacks is what is really hurting them.

            • DeElizabethan

              Just a note about TBTimes reporters. They may not write articles about it but if you talk to one, he will tell you the personal hell he’s gone through in the years and how scn has tried to ruin him on a personal level.

              Mike Rinder showed a video on Marty’s blog, caught on tape of an operative getting his trash and Mike confronting him, just late last year.

              It isn’t easy to prove by facts or to tell their stories, but one knows who is behind it, one just lives with it.

              BTW When you say Tampa Bay (area) it Includes Clearwater, Tampa and surrounding cities. Tampa Bay is water only. Hope that helps. Oh heck, you know that, sorry.
              You are right, the exposure certainly keeps them from outlandish games. They are treading a lot lighter now and hopefully runnin’ scared.

        • “If you think the CO$ is going to come after you because of your postings on this board, you are a paranoid.”

          This may be the case today but it wasn’t several years ago.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            And that is probably because they simply no longer have the resources to chase us all around.
            I am sure if they did…they still would try.
            Because that is how they think.

            • Ze Moo

              If you protest at a local ‘org’ you may draw the attention of the local scienos. But beyond the pushing around you might get at a protest, they don’t often come after anyone. Youtube is full of scieno protesters (mostly in LA) being harassed and pushed around. If 4chan and/or anonymous were to publish the names and businesses of local scieno’s, the resulting boycott would end the harassment very quickly.

              I would like to see a list and evidence of anyone currently suffering fair game. Police and district attorneys are fairly political animals and they will take action if the population demands it. It may be window dressing type of action, but any public action causes defections from the clamdom and that takes cash flow away.

              Tory Christman (Magoo, you done it again) states that the over the top fair gaming stopped around 2008 and that happened because of the large Anonymous protests that started then. Scamatology doesn’t want the newspapers and tv stations publicizing their actions. With cameras being so light and easy to hide, they have much more to lose when the story is made public. They are in fear of the truth.

            • Fair Game reports are located at this link, and you can see that it hasn’t stopped:

              https://whyweprotest.net/community/forums/fair-game-reports-and-personal-experiences.217/

              It may have lost some sting but don’t think that because Magoo says that the over the top fair gaming stopped around 2008 that it is gone. Colin had a lovely break in when he started speaking out (they found his gun and placed it on his bed, from what I recall). The private investigators are still being employed but possibly not in such great numbers.

              XenuBarb and AnonOrange had some nasty shit happen to them since 2008, so did Sparrow. Saying that “beyond pushing around you might get at a protest, they don’t often come after anyone” isn’t entirely accurate. Some of us have our own stories to tell about that, and although an outsider may claim it as paranoia it fits into a pattern of their behavior, unfortunately.

            • Ze Moo
            • DeElizabethan

              I’m with you Deckard! They are just being more careful and covert. Granted there is less because they are so busy, and manpower is scarce, but one can’t think they’ve changed.

            • DeElizabethan

              Right, plus you can Never trust them, so keep a step ahead and always be on alert, not paranoid, just alert.

            • FistOfXenu

              For real. Think back how much trolling they did against a.r.s. back in the day. Look how little trolling we get here now by comparison. They can’t do it anymore.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Hey, Louanne can only do so much. She tries to keep her eye on all of this but she only has ten fingers and half a brain to work with.

            • Johan

              He

        • HeatherGraceful

          I was followed from work two days running. The first day he approached me and videoed me and my car. The second day, my brother and I sandwiched her car in between our cars and led her thought the airport drop-off lane; very slowly. On the third day, I rang the Prime Minister’s office and told them, and the Leader of the Opposition and several others, all about it. Scientology was being discussed in Parliament at the time, thanks to Senator Xenophon.

          They also made a complaint about me to the Ethics committee of the Legal Practice Board. Because I used pseudonyms. On the Internet! (The LPB didn’t even ask me to respond.)

          • Ze Moo

            Get one of those easy to conceal cameras and record and post any harassment to youtube and show it to the local police. Canadian law has little tolerance for harassment and I’ve found the OPP (Ontario Provincial Police) and RCMP to be proactive on such complaints.

      • grundoon

        L. Ron Hubbard cultivated conspiracy theories, not because he believed them, but as a manipulative tactic to make Scientologists feel they were part of something big and important, and to motivate them to close ranks and turn inward and look to Hubbard for leadership. (The “Wag the Dog” strategy.)

        • Vistaril

          Fer sure. Plus, every good cult needs enemies: they provide a rallying point for members, they offer the excuse for criminal behaviour, their presence explains why the tech doesn’t work, and they serve as a distraction from the actions of the cult leader. No serious cult would be without enemies and conspiracies are the breeding ground for conjuring their existence.

          • The Dark Avenger

            A great essay on the subject of paranoid is The Paranoid Style in American Politics by Richard Hofstadter:

            The paranoid style

            The paranoid spokesman, sees the fate of conspiracy in apocalyptic
            terms — he traffics in the birth and death of whole worlds, whole
            political orders, whole systems of human values. He is always manning
            the barricades of civilization… he does not see social conflict as
            something to be mediated and compromised, in the manner of the working
            politician. Since what is at stake is always a conflict
            between absolute good and absolute evil, what is necessary is not
            compromise but the will to fight things out to a finish. Since the enemy
            is thought of as being totally evil and totally unappeasable, he must
            be totally eliminated — if not from the world, at least from the theatre
            of operations to which the paranoid directs his attention. This demand
            for total triumph leads to the formulation of hopelessly unrealistic
            goals, and since these goals are not even remotely attainable, failure
            constantly heightens the paranoid’s sense of frustration. Even partial
            success leaves him with the same feeling of powerlessness with which he
            began, and this in turn only strengthens his awareness of the vast and
            terrifying quality of the enemy he opposes.[1]

            • grundoon

              Good stuff! Reminds me of this L. Ron Hubbard rant:

              The whole agonized future of this planet, every Man, Woman and Child on it, and your own destiny for the next endless trillions of years depend on what you do here and now with and in Scientology. This is a deadly serious activity. And if we miss getting out of the trap now, we may never again have another chance.

              Repeated drilling on this policy is part of what every Scientologist gets for their money.

            • The Dark Avenger

              I don’t know if LRH was on Hofstadter’s radar at the time, but his description of the American ‘other’ rings eerily true today, almost 50 years after it was written.

        • Ziontologist

          I agree with grundoon but not the *cuntish* remarks of Deckard Cain. Scientology is plenty bad enough without making stuff up. There’s no need to go imagining things.
          The stuff about being narcissistic is just an ad hominem attack on anyone who ever checked out Scientology.

          • Roger Larsson

            Who joins scientology in purpose to go Clear and OT?
            People join scientology in purpose to attack critics, psychs and communists.

            To be a part of Hubbards paranoia.is the way to happiness.

  • “The first case of Fair Game proper was Fred Hare, who was chased by a
    raving mob of Scientology staff members through the streets of East
    Grinstead”
    Great. Now I can’t stop thinking about zombies.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Because now you know for sure that they are real!

      • Sorry I disappeared there. 😉 – ironically, the Haitian folklore definition is pretty applicable in this context: ”The term is often figuratively applied to describe a hypnotized person bereft of consciousness and self-awareness, yet ambulant and able to respond to surrounding stimuli.” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zombie

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Told ya!
          😉

  • Interesting. When I first saw the back of the T- shirt what I read is CULT instead of evil. Can you see it too?

    • Yes, I saw ‘cult’ first then it looked like ‘evil’. I like what she’s doing but I don’t have a lot of patience for celebrities that once endorsed this evil cult and still hide. She’s got a bigger responsibility than regular clams that finally get out of the fog.

    • Missy Wog

      I couldn’t even see EVIL..I only saw CULT and was sure my mind was messing with me! Had to friends at ESMB if I was loosing my ind before I had the balls to send it to Tony. Soil you think about it.. You are saying evil cult out loud all together! Don’t tell me she is NOT making a statement with that one! And what else is there to see? It’s also the ONLY song that she made a tshirt for!

    • I saw “evil” until I read the article, then I was stuck only being able to see “cult” for a bit. Now I can switch back and forth between seeing either one.

  • OK…people were tossed overboard in order to “cleanse away the suppressive taint.”
    Man …there are so many jokes with that , i honestly do not know where to start …help a sista out ? Capt Howdy ? can you take this one please?? I am too busy laughing

    • grundoon

      The photo was probably taken by L. Ron Hubbard himself.

    • Captain Howdy

      Sorry Kim, my J&D battery is being recharged at the moment.

    • Missy Wog

      suppressive taint… ewwww!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        It sounds like a bad spray tanning accident.

        • RMycroft

          That sounds like a good origin story for yet another zombie movie chain: reaction to chemicals in spray tan mix. Night of the Living Taint! Dawn of Taint! Shopping Mall of the Taint! Taint Misbehaving! (Just redo all the other zombie movies, but with the extras in spray tan and blood. And yes, they definitely need brains.)

      • Sandy

        you are laughing about “taint” aren’t you? May be reginal (spelling)

        • FistOfXenu

          Makes me think of the color orange. I know, some people like it but really it’s suppressive. The Markabian flag had orange in it.

    • grundoon
      • BuryTheNuts2

        oh…Oh….OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!

  • Observer

    For some reason this installment has really gotten under my skin; I am so angry I can barely type.

    So Fair Game was a “spiritual technology”, was it? That should tell anyone all they need to know about the grotesque and evil intent of its founder, “Mankind’s Greatest Friend”, the blameless and holy L. Ron Hubbard, as well as what kind of “ethics” are held and practiced by The Most Ethical People on the Planet, and just how “spiritual” and “religious” the disgusting and criminal organization of Scientology really is. And then, of course, there’s its “ecclesiastical” leader, the homuncular Davey Miscavige, who is every bit as benign as the Master.

    This snippet is IMO a perfect representation of the current head of the “church” (and also my favorite MST3K episode).

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKNTaWElUgA

    • BuryTheNuts2

      homuncular

      ^^^^ fell off my chair.

      • Unex Skcus

        homunculas: “A miniature, fully formed individual believed by adherents of the early
        biological theory of preformation to be present in the sperm cell.” (ROFL)

    • Captain Howdy

      Now i have to watch the whole movie. I missed that one..I think.

    • jensting

      Well, at least David Miscavige is NOT insane!

  • Sherbet

    I, handy with one-liners, reading about Fair Game, can think of no quips. Horrifying. Tragic. And illegal. Thank God for the Internet, where lrh’s real documents live on beyond his pathetic and paranoid life. What a sick man he was. Any scn believer who allows himself/herself to wander through revealing dox like these and STILL reveres lrh, well, there’s a real textbook case of willful ignorance.

    • FistOfXenu

      Don’t feel bad Sherbet. the Hub called it Fair Game in an amazing moment of 1984-like honesty. It was never fair and it sure as hell was no game for the people with targets on their backs. Things like that are harder to joke about. But we’ll all work on it and come up with something.

      • Sherbet

        It explains why people are still afraid to speak out, which means the ones who do, publicly and on the record, have our admiration and gratitude.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Absolutely! And the fact that they have done it while re-gaining and maintaining a sense of humor is wonderful.

          If you take the indies out of the equation and look at true Ex-Scientologists….they are a funny bunch.

          I am sure it is a defense mechanism in some ways….but I bet it feels so freeing to finally laugh like a banshee about anything and everything you could possibly want to.

        • FistOfXenu

          Every resistance has its heroes. The ones that spoke out and took the heat for it are ours. No harm making a list. Let’s start with Paulette Cooper. Gerry Armstrong. Jon Atack. Let’s remember the ones on the outside that tried to help like Margaret Singer too. It’s worth the risk of embarassing them to remind ourselves how many there are all these years.

    • nessness

      Sherbet, you have prompted me into revelation territory. thanks or not…. Fair – unfair, not fair, despicable, wretched, vomit, you’re right, the senses erupt. I wish so many revelations to those inside the bubble and those tentatively outside the bubble of Scientology, gently and sometimes abruptly your reality will intrude. And what do we do with that? Those of us who are atheists, feel some weirdness on these sites (well me anyway) with those who only see Scientologists having difficulty with reality, not themselves. However as long as religions are not so rapacious or ugly, I back off, there is a real world out here, without life after death, without water into wine, and a bunch of other stuff and it is ok,in fact it challenges everyone to be their own choice in every adventure in life and then there is an adventure after “death” that I don’t know a thing about. except for hubbtard and his target 2…..titanium etchings.. come see my etchings blechhh

      • Sherbet

        nessness, I’m not sure what you’re telling me, unless it’s that my use of the idiom “thank God” has offended you, an atheist. I assure you none of us here, me included, is saying that scientology is a sham and scientologists are deluded, while, at the same time, we ourselve adhere to personal beliefs that require their own leaps of faith. Nobody is saying, “Scientology is ridiculous, but MY God is better and MY church makes more sense.” That’s not the discussion here. As for atheism, whatever floats your boat. We’re all friends here, and belief — or disbelief — is a personal issue. By my saying “thank God,” I’m not demanding this blog’s posters join me in thanking the God of my understanding, or thanking any God or god. In the context in which I said it, “thank God” meant “it’s a good thing.” Less offensive for you?

        • nessness

          no offence, not ever. And buoyancy floats my boats 🙂 ) as it always has. I regret if my comments caused trouble. My cognitive dissonance is occasionally bumped , As you well stated, we’re all friends here.

          • Sherbet

            Good! I’d feel terrible if I’d offended anybody on this board.

  • http://www.facebook.com/fred.hare?fref=ts

    Fred Hare can be contacted via Facebook

    LRH audits Fred Hare on the famous auditing demonstration tape lecture “Fish and Fumble”, one of a half dozen or so lectures showing LRH’s auditing style, that Scientology interns are made listen to and compare themselves to improve their auditing.

    Fred gives off whole track overts, and Fred gives some of his this lifetime life’s details. Anyone trained on the old TRs Courses and who’s done any auditing Internships have had to listen to LRH’s auditing presence and style and likely heard that tape many times.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Also the voice on “Can We Ever Be Friends”. Oh, the irony.
      There’s a fascinating back and forth at this forum link about Fred Hare, from those who knew him at various stages/decades. He currently lives in St Pete and runs used and antique jewelry online. Like so many seemingly important icons in scientology history, outside the bubble, we find this observation:

      “I met Fred in either 1989 or 90. At the time I thought, “Wow, this is
      the guy who was on the Fish and Fumble tape that I’d listened to for
      approximately 8,000 hours. A real old-timer, auditing by LRH. WOW”

      The obvious truth was sobering. Fred was a lot more about trailer parks
      and flea markets than “Sir” or motorcycle rides at lunch with star
      struck debutantes or being an undercover agent for Ron. He may have
      embodied some type of perfection and was pleasant enough but seeing his
      condition forced me to re-evaluate the power of Scientology
      auditing.:confused2: ”

      http://www.forum.exscn.net/archive/index.php/t-4842.html

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    So by 1955, was Hubbard insanely paranoid, intensely intimidating, or holding the con? Answer: yes.

    Three letters Hubbard sent from July-September 1955 clearly show he is defending his cash hoard from IRS prying eyes and his dangerous practicing medicine without a license investigations by attacking anyone in sight, throwing anyone he chooses under the bus of suspicion, and practicing his Fair Game solution on all.

    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/fbifiles/hubbard-19550711.html
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/fbifiles/hubbard-19550729.html
    http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/fbifiles/hubbard-19550907.html

    In the William Patterson Jr bio on Heinlein I keep reading, Hubbard didn’t need to lie about his life. His accomplishments, definitely. But after the war he mingled and bunked with an extraordinary palette of personalities and contacts, including scientists, moon rocket and Manhattan Project types, political consultants/sci fi authors, B List celebrities and socialites, military advisors and war heros. Above all, just an opinion, Hubbard seem to absorb Heinlein’s life and adventures, which included working as a politican advisor with Manhattan Project scientists.

    There were many reasons after the war for paranoia and suspicions and terror. Imagine someone with a deteriorating mental condition in the midst of such a group and atmosphere. He also saw most of them struggling at one time or another with financial difficulties, even Heinlein, and tried to emulate those activities as well. The problem was that he didn’t have the same skills, or personality, or experience, or intellect. The problem was that he was Hubbard, so he turned to the solution of attacking, mainly via his wild and wooly storytelling skills, filtered through his veil of paranoia. This wasn’t a new set of skills, just a subset of more aggressive and out of control manipulations.

    Heinlein noticed: “Hubbard was not doing too well, either; he was jumpy, nervous, and unstable— everyone had noticed it. He had a tendency to fly off on obsessions that were not always very firmly grounded. He had become a “high maintenance” friend, and it took hours of working with him to keep on an even keel— a situational problem, Heinlein was sure, and one he would recover from in time.”

    ‘Sprague and Catherine de Camp disagreed about Hubbard’s personality deficiencies being a recent acquisition. “I don’t think he’s a case of post-war breakdown at all,” Sprague de Camp wrote in reply: I think he always was that way, but when he wanted to make a good impression or get something out of somebody he put on a first-class charm act. What the war did was to wear him down to the point where he no longer bothers to put on the act. I saw the other side of his character before the war and decided then that he was not to be trusted” ‘

    Patterson Jr., William H. (2010-08-17). Robert A. Heinlein: In Dialogue with His Century: Volume 1 (1907-1948): Learning Curve (p. 410). Tor Books. Kindle Edition.

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Lisa Marie Presley’s shirt says Cult, but if you squint real tight, and step back just right, it says Evil.

    I am going to assume she is protecting her ability to spend time with her children and her children time with their grandmothers. But let’s not forget that Miscavige has their auditing/confessional files. I went back and checked about a mention of Michael Jackson. I don’t have to stretch the imagination too much to speculate there could easily be explosive nuggets in there Miscavige might use against her. Perhaps she realized that she should fire a warning shot over the bow, but shut it. She realized she had been too sheltered and naive and acting before researching and analyzing the situation. I can only hope she has a plan, but if not, at least she is a highly visible example of scientology’s fanatical, terrifying Fair Game threat for all the world to see.

    http://perezhilton.com/2012-09-06-tom-cruise-confessions-recorded-by-scientology-leader-david-miscavige#.USjmHTfPIkQ
    Tom De Vocht, Miscavige’s former close aide, has said his boss “loved to dish about celebrities.”
    He read the reports of Cruise’s confessions during late-night backgammon games and frequently commented on them, as De Vocht added:

    “He would roll his eyes and say, ‘Jeez, can you believe it?’”

    If it’s true, the Mission: Impossible star wouldn’t be the first celeb to be monitored without his consent. Claire Headley, who once worked directly under Miscavige, has said he used the same sneaky tactics with Lisa Marie Presley and Kirstie Alley. The Scientology source explained:

    “I know he did it with [the reports of] Lisa Marie Presley, back in ’95, when she was married to Michael Jackson, and I know he did it a number of times with Kirstie Alley. I saw and heard him.”

    • Ze Moo

      If Miscavige were to leak or plant any info about Lisa Presley, the backfire would end CO$. All Lisa has to do is publicly state that any negative info came from her CO$ pc folder and all the Elvis fans would pick up their torches and pitchforks and storm the castle. Fair gaming clebs is very much a double edged sword.

      Miscaviges personal use of pc folder info has been so widely reported that no one believes in the ‘confidentiality’ of CO$ ‘confessions’. That alone has been a large nail in the coffin.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        OSA’s replies about this matter (via whatever the current spokeshole is) are that they Never do such a thing; however, they’ll also say confessionals or sec checks are not protected as auditing sessions.
        I totally agree it would backfire big time. I know that. You know that. Hopefully by now Lisa has had time to catch up on the scientology Book list, going backward from Jenna, to Lawrence Wright…

      • yes my little friend with the radio show, who used to shill for CCHR before i straightened him out, is coming right along. yesterday he was talking about how criminals always make sure they have some dirt on their enemies to use as blackmail, and then he said “and i would throw the church of scientology into that batch.” he’s coming right along indeed!

        • Ze Moo

          Victoria, who is the ‘he’ you are talking about?

  • Missy Wog

    Fair game and the Sea Org will be his legacy. Much to the iSci worlds chagrin. My favorite line from today is “mercenary narcissist with his own intelligence agency”
    I think I’m going to make that my sig file 🙂

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thanks for the notice about exscientologykids.com getting a fresh makeover. Good idea with the book tour promotions. Not surprised Tony’s piece on Valeska Paris is one of the featured ones. That’s in my Top 10 sci horror tales that will haunt you category.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Fair Game or self defense?

    If someone is attacking your group, you have to defend — and sometimes hysterically and excessively so.

    • Vistaril

      Attacking or speaking truth?

      If someone is speaking truth you have to listen – sometimes intently and without interrupting.

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        By definition, Scientology is good.

        By definition, only evil criminals would attack that which is good.

        Therefore, only evil people attack Scientology.

        The corollary is that good people have only good to say about Scientology.

        • jensting

          Sorry – needs more parody at this stage. This is exactly what Hubbard said (using his own words “theta” and “entheta” instead of good and evil, but you get the point)

    • Captain Howdy

      Exactly OTVIIIisGrrr8!, just like the crazy lady explains to Mike Wallace in this 60 Minutes segment.

      “Let the people who have to handle it, handle it”

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uF99yYCE8wI

      P.S- Watch poppa Gaiman lie like a motherbleeper

      • Ze Moo

        If the truth can destroy something, it should be destroyed. I miss Mike Wallace and Ed Bradley, 60 Minutes hasn’t been the same since they retired. The huge anti-scieno crowds in the 60 minutes you reference are heartening. That was 40 years ago, the anti-scieno movement(s) have a long and illustrious history.

  • SandiCorrena

    I love the t-shirt!!! Would the subtlety really keep her in good standing and preserve her relationship with her mom though? I mean if it quacks like a duck it’s a duck right? Even if you don’t say that it’s a duck; everybody knows. Of course they love a celebrity and not being the best of times for them right right now I guess they would do ANYTHING not to lose the few remaining ones they have. Anytime a national show like E or Entertainment Tonight covers them in a negative way I think that’s a win; I don’t think the celebs can willfully miss coverage like that the way they do the internet.

    Anyway I’m building such a library; finished The Church of Fear yesterday afternoon, started My Billion Year Contract last night and plotting my next book orders….hello Lucas and Jon, I’ll be curled up with you very soon! <3

  • BuryTheNuts2

    EDITORS

    Men will come
    Along this blaze hacked
    By pen in wilderness
    Of fact.

    Men will come
    And in coming scowl and utter
    Thunderous wrath
    And say that here and HERE
    A comma is out of place.

    Did Hubbard write this one in anticipation of Davey and GAT?

  • aquaclara

    Jon, thanks for letting us see things through your eyes. Between your books and these interviews, I am learning much. The Fair Game descriptions are horrifying, and will be the legacy of this cult long after it gasps out its final desperate lies.
    All those years of “confidential” sessions, when in actuality, it’s all just another scammy way to blackmail and imprison every member of the cult. For those in the cult who haven’t been Fair Gamed, do they know this could come around to them, as well? I guess Lisa did….

  • The day when someone, one of us ex members, or a reporter or scholar, can get Fred Hare or Jane Kember, to talk, before those two die, that will be a human challenge, to get either of those two to talk to honestly, about like in the early GO days.

    The deaths, the alleged murders, I wish that Jane and Fred, and any other of the privy old Guardian’s Office staff who know what happened, will write, even if for posthumous publishing, their memories of the darkest that the old Guardian’s Office (following LRH’s “pink legs” Simon Bolivar policy orders) did.

    The Scientology murders, I just hope, that they in the Guardian’s Office, who executed, the worst of Hubbard’s mind, write the truth of what they did, and what they know, even if second and third hand info so long as it’s credible.

    Bill Franks let out some bombshell comments to Tom Smith (Tom Smith has done a whole huge good job, getting so many ex senior leaders and in the know ex Scientology members interviewed on the college radio interview show that Tom’s done over the years, including great interviews of psychologists and psychiatrists, I hope Tom interviews Jon sometime).

    Bill Franks told of seeing Guardian’s Office files that touched on Scientology Guardian’s Office murders, which of course would only have been authorized by Hubbard and Mary Sue.

    As outlandish and dark and hard to face (confront) at the murders might be, this is the darkest that needs be somehow corroborated, and any ex biggie Guardian’s Office people listening in here, to this commenting, this history, I urge you who know, to somehow share your input!

    Chuck Beatty
    chuckbeatty77@aol.com
    412-260-1170 Pittsburgh

    • 0tessa

      Yes, it is time for Jane Kember to talk, as it is for Lexie too.

    • Chocolate Velvet

      This is one of the more shadowy aspects of the story of scientology. One I have been wondering about a lot lately, as I’ve been reading RJ Lifton’s book on the Aum cult, (murders galore) and Robert Kaufman’s “Inside Scientology”. St Hill had a bit of a sinister rep among scilons back in the day. And Bob conveys the atmosphere of malice quite well, and its toxic effect on his sanity when he was there.

      I second your call, Chuck. Anyone who has info on murders, or deaths under questionable circumstances, or induced suicides — please push through your fear and tell what you know. A public statement is not always necessary, if someone can offer leads to dox, or other hard evidence.

      More than any other time in the history of the cult, now is the time when it is relatively safe to speak out — if you stay visible, and vocal about your experience.

    • DeElizabethan

      Hey Chuck, would like to hear more of your own personal experiences too, when you can. Example, when you were a supervisor to some GO members.

  • Chocolate Velvet

    That LMP t-shirt is very clever design work. The text kept shifting as I looked at it — evil, cult, evil, cult. That is the art of lettering at its finest!

    Also want to say that I love seeing Jon Atack back in circulation. His way of getting right to the essential core of a question is so satisfying. He knows the details, and can articulate the big picture too. Such an important part of the current conversation about scientology.

    Also, that overboarding pic looks like something from the SubGenius ouvre. It would be funny if I didn’t know LRH was serious about it, and the victims sure as hell weren’t laughing…

  • Artoo45

    As a graphic designer specializing in typography and calligraphy, I can safely say that design is no happy accident. It’s an awesome Fuck You to the Cult. Lisa Marie’s liberation is especially poignant to me, since she grew up in two cults that fused into one. Any of you who have been inside Scientology know the kind of pressure she was up against. She grew up in the poisonous spotlight of the media cult with heavy expectations to be the Princess of Rock. Then she suffered the loss of her father and her mother placed her in the position of being one of the Cult’s most prized shills. Storm and Grace indeed. I really can’t wait to see what’s next . . .

  • dwayners13

    I doubt that if Lisa Marie publicly announced that she came to her senses, (aka quit the ‘church’) her mother & other relatives would be told to disconnect from her. Celebrities seem to have a whole different set of rules & expectations. It’s one thing for a non-celebrity public Scientologist to claim their family members were forced to disconnect from them & quite another for a high-profile member to talk about being disconnected from their families on Entertainment Tonight or The View. Just as they aren’t constantly pressured to donate money every week or subjected to ethics conditions, celebrities are given preferential treatment & excluded from these types of policies.

    One of the many things that has always puzzled me about Hubbard & his organization is why they documented their criminal activities, shady practices & other policies that aren’t exactly meant to be public. It seems rather idiotic for someone to create a written account of their criminal behaviour. For example, if my friends & I were going to conduct an “Operation Freak Out” style attack or decided to develop a “Fair Game” type policy to deal with those we disliked, I probably wouldn’t type up the specifics, distribute them among my friends & keep a copy on file. While Hubbard may have been a compulsive liar & Con-man, he wasn’t a complete idiot, which is why I have difficulty understanding why he did this, especially considering the man was paranoid as it was. From “Operation Snow White” to the infamous Toronto raids, it was their practice of documenting their criminal plans which often helped convict their members. Don’t get me wrong, I appreciate their stupidity as it has helped people like Jon Atack when conducting research for their books, however it just seems incredibly stupid to document your criminal activities & shady practices. Then again, there’s a lot about Hubbard, his church & those who devote their lives & income to him that I will never understand.

    • The Dark Avenger

      I think Hubbard’s grandiosity overcame his common sense. He probably thought that his efforts would be looked on by future generations as harsh, but necessary.

      • I don’t think Hubbard gave a damn about future generations. He just wanted power and money in his own life, and to punish his perceived enemies. It was all a big con.

        • Johan

          I think he fully intended for his name to be “smashed” into history. I think he might be right….

      • Missionary Kid

        I agree that, “Hubbard’s grandiosity overcame his common sense,” but I believe that since he always thought he was right and smarter than anyone else, that he’d never have to worry about anything he’d written.

    • Captain Howdy

      The SS kept records, so did the Khmer Rouge.

      • Roger Larsson

        A ship is a cage limiting the freedom. Birds in a cage aren’t flying in freedom. Suppressed having a wish to leave the Suppression in Scientology, the SS, have to fight or surrender to the SS.

        Fighting for the suppressed are the ones that have left SS, the Suppression in Scientology. They aren’t affected by the SS but they still care for the ones still affected by the SS.

      • Missionary Kid

        A lot of the record keeping was to prove to themselves that they were accomplishing something and that they were powerful enough to eliminate the enemies of their ideals. They felt might made right.

    • Missionary Kid

      When you realize that Hubastard was a con man, a pathological liar, passive-aggressive as hell, and filled with hubris, it’s perfectly logical. It goes under the philosophy of, “I’m making money out of this, so I must be right,” as well as, “I’ve gotten away with it so far, so they’re never gonna catch me.”

    • grundoon

      Jon Atack sheds light on this question in his 1995 essay, “Scientology: Religion or Intelligence Agency?”

      L. Ron Hubbard’s kooky “religious technologies” and quack therapies get most of the attention, but actually his crowning achievement was the creation of the most intricate bureaucratic system in human history ever centrally planned by one individual. A fundamental of the Hubbard system is that everything is communicated in writing. “If it isn’t written, it isn’t true.”

    • Johan

      I think it was all part of turning everything he conceived into ‘policy ‘ thereby institutionilising these practices. After all if its not written down the ‘system’ might forget how to do it ‘properly’. He probably thought he was too clever to ever get caught out by writing these policies down.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I’ve always had the impression that the documenting of everything, even the criminal and unethical activities, was done to somehow make it seem legitimate and acceptable to LRon’s followers. If he can convince them it’s ok to do these things, then they’ll do them more readily without questioning. Just my two cents worth, having never really had a taste of any of it first hand…

  • DeElizabethan

    Good stuff from your interview with Jon.
    I definitely see the word Cult first, on the T-shirt.
    Will check out the revamped site of Jenna’s.
    Thanks Tony!

    • Ziontologist

      Love you, DeElizabethan, and I remember when you were simultaneously declared and celebrated … that was like a party!

      • DeElizabethan

        Yes it was, felt like a star for the day! Nice to talk with everyone.
        Just ordered the Lisa T-Shirt.

  • FistOfXenu

    “JON: He was paranoid from the outset. I think the attempt by Sara, his second wife, to have him restrained by psychiatry was significant”

    But – but – he didn’t HAVE a second wife!

    Bur really this paranoia is the important thing about the Hub. It’s the key to understanding what he did and why he did it. And it’s the reason the indies will never succeed in rehabilitating his shabby criminal reputation. LRH wasn’t a great humanitarian or philanthropist. He was a very sick man who refused mental help and demonized anybody that tried to get him help, and then demonized the only people who might’ve rescued him from his madness.

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe that LRH, while being paranoid, narcissistic, passive-aggressive, and a pathological liar, had a lot of hubris. Those are the nicest things I can say about him.

      While having trouble with math, he claimed to be a nuclear physicist. The lies go on and on. The only abilities he had were to charm people when he wanted to use them, and a fertile imagination..

      It’s obvious that his evil, manipulative skills only improved with age as he conned people out of their money.

  • Mary_McConnell

    Thanks for more Jon Atack! I just love that man!!

    And yes, MissWog made a terrific catch with the T-Shirt, lol!!

  • Wait….What?

    I looked at the t-shirt before I read the story and I saw the word cult immediately. then I read the story and found out the word is supposed to be evil. I went back to the t-shirt and I had to look hard to see the word evil.

    • ParticleMom

      I had the same experience.

      • stillgrace

        I’m here attempting to catch up with my entheta after four days of flu, complete with high fever and hallucinations. One of my side effects right now is temporary (I hope) double vision. When I saw the back of the t-shirt, it read from upper left to bottom right “Cult Evil”. Go figure.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Welcome back. Sorry about the flu…well except for the hallucinations as those sound kind of fun.

          • stillgrace

            Thank you! When my fever broke, I apparently insisted that Mr. Grace call my Mom and tell her. She’s been gone for over ten years. Maybe I connected with her on Target Two or something.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Ooh…I bet you freaked out Mr. Grace but good!

    • Johan

      I think we as a group might be a little predisposed…..

  • noseinabk

    This is from a LMP 2005 song called Idiot.

    You’re roaring, you’re boring
    Oh, did you hear me snoring?
    I’d wanna mutilate myself when I talk to you
    So here we are, I hope you can tell that I’m no referral
    You can have ’em, call hell
    You’re gonna drive ’em nuts
    They’re gonna hate your guts

    http://www.azlyrics.com/lyrics/lisamariepresley/idiot.html

  • Sidney18511

    The back of the shirt says “you can think that I’m evil and I’m off the rails…..you ain’t seen nothing yet”
    Well, if that doesn’t sound like a big F U to Scientology, I’ll eat my dianetics book!

    • Sidney18511

      Also in her last interview when she talked about “covert ops” being performed by people she trusted that ere screwing her over, It makes me think that she went on the interwebs and read and read. She knows nqw what she was in and she is pissed.
      She was probably brought into ethics amd threatened, and it didn’t go over too well with h, so she wrote this album with some obviously anti-scientology lyrics and all the church got was this “evil cult” T-shirt!

      • Somehow I doubt that she went on the interwebs and read and read. Celebrities of her stature typically don’t read press about themselves (it can lead one down a dangerous path….look at Lohan, for fuck’s sake), and she’s been taught since she was born to avoid the media. Why else has she been so camera shy for most of her life? She’s done very few interviews, and they were typically about her high profile marriages and/or relationships.

        She’s also been taught never to read entheta. She may have done limited online research and discovered the “covert ops” but I still don’t think she knows the entire truth. I could be wrong, but even Haggis started going “off the rails” publicly when he found out about the child abuse.

        • Sidney18511

          Your right Deck, I was assuming that she read about the underhanded crap that Scientology has done in the past, not about herself.

        • Ziontologist

          Lisa Marie knows more about Scientology than you ever will, Dick-Hard!

          • grundoon

            A hard man is good to find!

            (as a wise woman told me)

          • I’m not sure what I did to provoke that response, but you should know that I’m a female.

            And I would gladly give up the title of anyone “knowing more about Scientology” than me ANY DAY. The fact that I know as much as I do isn’t something I like to boast about.

            • Are_sics

              I see several things wrong with that response, one of which is that you clearly did nothing to provoke it. At least, that’s true for me.

          • Roger Larsson

            Provocation is a mighty weapon having the power to get down up and going but it’s a double edged sword having the power to keep the down permanently down also.

            It all depends upon how victimized someone is.

            Victims of scientology accuse themselves and shut up. When they get it they give the right source the credit for their muzzling and shout out loud.

            It’s to take responsibility for the time and the money that was wasted in $cientology.

  • Missionary Kid

    Jon, where did the story originate that when Van Vogt split from Hubbard that Hubbard made his life so difficult that he was unable to write for years afterwards? Just a year ago, in the Wikipedia entry on Van Vogt, that is what it said, but it has been removed. I don’t think LRH would have let Van Vogt go easily in his way after the split. That sounds uncharacteristic for Hubbard.

    Could Van Vogt still have been afraid of the consequences of saying something negative about Hubbard? To not have read a book, yet praise it speaks volumes to me.

    My interest in Van Vogt comes from my oldest sister, in her brief flirtation with Dianetics (Scientology?) dragging me to his house in about 1955 or 6 for a Dianetics seminar. Either I was too young or too flaky to be recruited. I just went because I was hoping to meet a real science fiction author.

    • Sidney18511

      Did your sister get sucked in?

      • Missionary Kid

        Only for a short while, maybe a few months or so. I came home from school one afternoon and found her out in the back yard burning all of her Dianetics material. We were raised as fundamentalist Christians (you can tell by my moniker). She flipped and went the other way, to even more extreme fundamentalism, where she still is, out of guilt for getting involved with such an ungodly movement.

        Since my beliefs are not even Christian any more, I’m glad that I’ve never been subjected to disconnection, because I love my sister. I think I empathize with ex-Co$ members because of the restrictive world view, filled with prohibitions against actions that the outside world takes as normal, social control, fear of the rest of the world, and an apocalyptic end for one’s soul if you don’t conform while you’re in.

        For the Baptists, as well as the sect I came from, the mantra was, “Don’t dance, drink, smoke, or chew, or go with girls that do.” I still don’t smoke or chew. My sister spends hours each day praying and reading her bible.

        • stillgrace

          Good for your sister for recognizing evil. I’m thinking of all the money she saved.

          • Missionary Kid

            In our family, money wasn’t spent. That was part of the guilt that got her out. I think that the request for money all the time for “classes” shook her out of the miasma that Co$ casts on its victims.

            Even though she worked as a lay missionary for a while, and always tithed, she ended up with a good pension. That’s something that Co$ has never given, as far as I know.

  • SP ‘Onage

    Is Lisa Marie in Kabbalah? She’s wearing a green string on her left wrist in some of these photos. Plus, is that a Marcabian guard behind her in the photo?

    http://www.celebitchy.com/category/lisa_marie_presley/

    Because of the well-known red string, worn on the left wrist to ward off negative entergy, the color red is often associated with Kabbalah. But green is also a powerful color in this ancient tradition. It represents the central column between right and left, positive and negative, giving and receiving. As such, green signifies the balance that is so important to the survival of the planet.

    • DeElizabethan

      Nice long article and yes, saw the bracelet. Maybe she is practicing Kabbalah and she certainly can use the good vibes.

      • I hope she hasn’t dumped one cult for another. Kabbalah is a milder form of Scientology.

        • DeElizabethan

          It is? Didn’t know that, will look into it. Thanks Deckard

    • Izel

      She’s wearing an MJ Friendship bracelet, it has nothing to do with Kabbalah, I just realized this post is to old :/

  • dwayners13

    I wouldn’t be surprised if Lisa Marie eventually speaks out about her experience, she seems like the type of person who has the balls to do it. It’s probably out of respect for her mother that she hasn’t officially done so yet. Not only would it put her mother in an awkward position, she knows the cult well enough to understand the type of pressure & things that her mother would be subjected to. As a celebrity, she wouldn’t be subjected to the disconnection pressure a regular public Scientologist is, it wouldn’t go unaddressed.
    Some would say she isn’t ‘high profile’ enough to really make huge waves, however I think her experience & that of her families would garner a a significant amount of interest. If Tony & the rest of us are reading the ‘clues, hint & innuendo’ correctly, she not only has an interesting story to tell, she’s desperately wants to tell it to the world.
    Hopefully, Lisa Marie’s mother’s love for her daughter & anger over what has apparently been done to her will outweigh any devotion she has for her church. I have a feeling that once Lisa Marie feels it’s safe to talk, she is going to unload as Jason Beghe & Paul Haggis did, however with a more personal angle, with specific names.
    I hope I’m right & I hope it’s soon.

    • Missionary Kid

      Her mother and possibly her children can possibly be used as hostages against her. I hope that she realizes the emotional blackmail can possibly be overcome because of her high profile.

      She’s probably walking an emotional tightrope right now.

  • California

    For sure, Fair Game is still going on……

    Those that are targeted need to know that they have support and that 2013 is going to result in even more consequences to the bad guys within SCN. We know that there are good guys and we are urging you to come out. Soon.

  • Johan

    Love the shirt. It flips scientology’s passive aggressive semantic wording BS right back in their face. I can picture LMP, in her most innocent voice, saying to ol Davey “why COB, it’s only some lyrics from a song, whatever do you mean?”. Mike Rinder’s toes must be curling.

  • SP ‘Onage

    I’ve never read this before. I wonder if Lisa Marie knew about this? See Lisa, this is the shady shit scientology does. I really hope you’re not a scientologist anymore.

    This was written Nov 5, 2003

    Read more:
    http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,102210,00.html

    HELP — the Scientology-based literacy program — is back on the Web site Michael Jackson is using to raise money for charity.
    HELP was removed as one of the groups that would receive money from Jackson’s single “What More Can I Give?” after I reported the connection last week.
    But unbeknownst to Jackson, his supporters insist, the HELP logo was added back to his Web site over the weekend. And, unknown to him, there is a simple reason. The Web site, http://www.whatmorecanigive.com, was registered on Oct. 14 to a high-level Scientologist.

    Welcome to a mess.
    According to Jackson insiders, the singer himself chose only one charity, Oneness, as a beneficiary of his single, which can be downloaded for $2. Otherwise, Jackson is said to have left the selection to the Web site operator, who, according to Jackson’s friends, failed to tell him she was a Scientologist and that she was choosing one of that church’s subsidiaries to receive the funds.
    The site operator, Valerie B. Whalin, hosts an Internet radio show for Earthlink under the name “Surfer Val,” the same name under which she registered Jackson’s Web sites.
    Efforts to contact Whalin were unsuccessful. But sources at both Clear Channel Communications and Broadway Entertainment, the companies that hired her to run the Web site, told me yesterday that no money would be going to Scientology.

  • Ex-Scientology Kids site is down?