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Kima Douglas, 1942-2013

Kima_DouglasOn January 14, Kima Douglas died in Scottsdale, Arizona after fighting a battle with pancreatic necrosis. She was 70 years old.

Nothing was reported in the local media about her passing. And except for some Facebook testaments written by friends and family, there has been little notice online that she is gone.

But Kima Douglas was well known in the world of Scientology, and spent several years caring for L. Ron Hubbard as his nurse during some of the most difficult years that he ran the organization while on the run himself.

Kima left Scientology in 1980 and then gave a rather legendary interview to Hubbard’s biographer, Russell Miller, in 1986. But after that she kept a low profile, and is remembered by friends for her kindness and caring.

We talked this morning with Jim Dincalci, who was Hubbard’s medical officer and worked with Kima on the yacht Apollo and then in locations across the country as Hubbard moved from one hiding place to another. He confirmed for us that Kima’s illness came on unexpectedly, and that for several weeks there was reason to believe that she might recover. Her death came as a shock to her family and friends.

He remembers seeing her for the first time, on the ship, in 1970. “She was gorgeous, but she was to be feared,” he says with a laugh. She got things done (“made things go right,” in the language of Scientology’s “Sea Organization”), but she would stand up to Hubbard when she saw that people needed care. “She was great medically and great with people,” Dincalci says.

Children were drawn to her, he says, in particular the Barnett sisters, Clarice and Michele, who was only about 11 when she was brought to the ship. (Michele “Shelly” Barnett would later marry David Miscavige, who leads the church today. Shelly suddenly disappeared from view and hasn’t been seen by her fellow church members since her father’s funeral in August, 2007.)

Kima’s parents had worked as British spies during the Second World War. They were rushing to get home to have her when Kima was born in Portugal on July 19, 1942. Kima then grew up in Rhodesia, where she had a pet elephant.

Kima told Miller that she had first been recruited into Scientology in California in 1968, and by 1970 when she joined Hubbard on the ship was fully under his spell… “There were wild stories that if an atomic bomb in Nevada was about to go off, L. Ron, with the power of his mind, could defuse it. The expectation was that he would be able to see into my head, which both terrified and excited me. And he’d come to save the planet. At the time we were talking about atomic warfare. Who could stop this? I was a complete believer.”

One of the most interesting periods in Scientology history happened in 1973, when Hubbard left the Apollo and spent ten months hiding out in Queens with Dincalci, then returned to the ship and had a fateful motorcycle accident on the island of Tenerife. Janet Reitman, in her book Inside Scientology, emphasized how Hubbard spent most of his time in Queens planted in front of a television, and absorbed an American culture that was somewhat alien to him. And Miller and Lawrence Wright, whose book Going Clear is now in its second printing, both ascribe a great deal of portent to the motorcycle accident, after which Hubbard never seemed to be the same.

This is how Kima described caring for Hubbard after the accident:

He broke his arm, three ribs and bruised himself to an unbelievable point. He had massive black bruises, he had really damaged himself. He refused to see a doctor. I saw him come back, walking. He went into his room and wouldn’t see anyone except messengers and [his wife] Mary Sue. Next day he saw Jim and then me. He was in his chair. We strapped his arm to him and strapped his ribs. We were in Las Palmas. We went out to sea in a Force 5 [wind]. Strapped to his chair he must have gone through agony. He screamed and hollered and yelled and slept in his chair. It was absolutely ungodly, six weeks of pure hell. Finally Laurel [Sullivan] went into town and found a doctor. She went off in Madeira and found a doctor. He came to the ship and he said what we all knew. In Lisbon we got him off and had him x-rayed but the break had already started to mend. He never went into a cast — it was too late. It took three months to heal. He was revolting to be with — a sick crotchety pissed-off old man at an extreme of antagonism to everything and everyone. His wife was often in tears. He’d scream at top of his lungs, “Get out of here!” Laurel was very good and spent a lot of time with him. Messengers went through hell. I’d go and see him every two days, to check him. He’d throw food physically with his other arm. I’d see plates splat against the bulkhead. When things got really bad I’d go and make him English scrambled eggs and toast with butter and milk and took it up well salted and peppered, I even fed him once.

Kima was also entrusted with handling Hubbard’s huge piles of cash. She relates to Miller that she was sent to Lichtenstein when Hubbard decided that he wanted the church’s money pulled out of Switzerland.

We went into a bank vault in Liechtenstein and saw a pile of money. This was in Vaduz. We were shown the piles of money….There was a stack four feet high and 3-4 wide. Big denominations, 100 dollar bills, francs and marks….I was beyond surprise. We had overreached bounds of ridiculousness with his broken arm, we were way beyond common sense. Three of us went in and there were a lot of bank people sitting there taking down numbers, making sure they had the right amount. That money was sealed, it was our money. We were there about a week and a half….Some of the money was under Hubbard’s name, I saw his bundle. Another bundle was under the Church. The Church’s was bigger but his was big too. When we saw the money everyone’s eyes widened….When we got back to the ship we saw him immediately. He wanted us to describe how big the piles were. The list of currency numbers was given to Mary Sue. He was very pleased, he thought he had outdone the Swiss.

On another mission in Madrid, part of the “Snow White” project to obtain government documents critical of Hubbard in agencies around the world, Kima and seven other Scientologists were arrested and kept in jail for about a week. One of her friends tells us that it was in that jail stay that she met Michael Douglas, who became her husband.

After the adventures at sea ended in 1975, Dincalci and Kima and Michael were with Hubbard as he moved from one place to another. From Daytona to Dunedin, Florida, to New York City, to Washington D.C., to Culver City and La Quinta, California, Dincalci and Kima fed and cared for Hubbard as Michael took care of his finances, Jim remembers.

In January 1980, Kima decided to leave Scientology. A month later, on Valentines Day, Hubbard went into hiding with Pat and Annie Broeker and would remain in seclusion until his death in 1986.

When Kima “blew” — church jargon for defecting — she initially went to stay with Robbie Levin, who tells us that Kima regaled him for days with stories about Hubbard.

Levin had become well known to Scientologists in 1968 when he and his band People! — made up of all Scientologists — had a hit record, “I Love You.” In 1969, the group joined the Sea Org after getting a handwritten note from Hubbard approving the idea. “We were the first entertainers in the Sea Org,” Robbie tells us. In the mid-1970s, Levin traded music for his burgeoning clothing business, and by 1980, he had quietly left the church when Kima came to stay with him.

She told him that in 1975 Hubbard had suffered a pulmonary embolism in Curaçao and had been taken to a hospital, and then was very sick again at La Quinta, California in 1977 but he made her promise not to call an ambulance. Dincalci and Kima had been caring for him for years, but neither of them had medical degrees. So she called in a physician who was a Scientologist, Gene Denk, who would treat Hubbard for the rest of his life.

Levin says Kima told him that Denk gave Hubbard several pads of blank prescriptions that he’d pre-signed. “Hubbard was self-prescribing drugs for himself. A lot were oral, but some were by needle,” Levin says Kima told him. “Kima was afraid to talk about it because they were declaring people,” he says, referring to Scientology’s version of excommunication, “declaring” someone a “suppressive person.” She told Levin that Hubbard was dying. “He was so wacked out because of all the drugs. He’s going to die soon, and guess who’s going to take the fall,” she told him.

Dincalci says that’s what he saw, too.

“Yes, Denk pre-signed the pads,” he says. “I would write them up and go get them.”

Dincalci says that during the Gerry Armstrong litigation in 1983, he was deposed by church attorneys, who asked him about the allegation. “I said, ‘I still have those pads from Denk,’ and then the deposition was over. They didn’t want to hear anymore,” he says.

Another detail from Hubbard’s care that we hadn’t heard before: The man’s passion for KOOL cigarettes is well known, but less well known is that Hubbard gave up KOOLs for “Picayune” brand cigarettes in an attempt to cut down on his smoking. Jon Atack recalls Kima’s account that she’d tried to help Hubbard in his goal. “I was touched by her devotion to Hubbard during her testimony. She had kept her compassion, despite ‘processing.’ I remember her saying that she felt he had a chance of better health, because he’d cut down from 120 to 100 Picayune cigarettes a day.”

Sinar Parman, meanwhile, points out that it was Kima Douglas who purchased the land that would become Scientology’s international headquarters, a 500-acre property east of Los Angeles that came to be known as “Gold Base.”

“In 1978, when LRH was shooting films, we did a location shot at this golf course, which turned out to be the base,” Parman says. “The golf course went bankrupt and was auctioned off, and Kima bought it.”

It was one of many signs that showed how much Hubbard trusted her. “She was relied on. She was a very trusted terminal, she and her husband,” he says.

After Kima left Scientology and then gave her interview to Miller in 1986, she kept a low profile. She and Michael moved to Hawaii, but then in July, 2003 he died of cancer. Kima’s friends tell us she never really recovered from it.

Robbie Levin sent us this photograph from last year, at a wedding of his goddaughter. In the photograph with Kima and Levin is Robbie’s fiance, Julie Williams…

Robbie_Levin

We’ve reached out to more of Kima’s old coworkers and friends, and we’ll add more remembrances when they come in.

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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 26, 2013 at 15:20

 

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  • Chocolate Velvet

    Thanks for this, Tony.

    Kima Douglas is a familiar name in this story, and it sounds like she was a remarkably giving and caring person. One of the most heartbreaking aspects of this (or any) cult is the way that good people have been drawn in to a very sick and destructive situation. Even if they manage to get out, their lives often seem to be forever stifled in some way. They are afraid to speak out, to let the impact of what they have experienced show in their daily lives. They are not free to tell the whole of their experiences, and be their whole selves. They are cheated, and the rest of us are cheated out of the potential contributions of many compassionate, gifted people with generous hearts.

    Rest in peace, Kima.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Well put, CV. Kate Bornstein talked of fondness for the Old Man as many called him and seemed to have forged a father figure bond. Yes, father was abusive and a long list of other horrifying qualifers, but hey, he was dad. It’s only been in the last decade, maybe two, that family members don’t automatically put up with abuse. And just like family members who used to go to whatever lengths necessary to hide the family secrets, to acquiesce to the monster’s strange demands, feed the delusions, that seems to be what Kim and Jim and others were dedicated to provide.

      RIP, Kima Douglas.

      • 1subgenius

        Insightful post.

  • John P.

    It sounds like Kima Douglas was one of the nicer people involved with the cult. It’s good that she had over 30 years on the outside to enjoy reality after spending so much time at the epicenter of the craziness.

    But the second thread in this article is worth noting: Hubbard’s avoidance of doctors is startling in its vehemence. What could make someone so afraid that they would rather try to heal broken bones from a motorcycle accident themselves? Continued tissue injury, potentially leading to tissue necrosis or sepsis as well as mobility impairment from being set improperly would seem to be compelling reasons to get even basic medical treatment. And a later pulmonary embolism finds Hubbard unwilling to go to the emergency room? These stories don’t seem like they come from a guy who believes in the ability of “the tech” to perform extraordinary healing. They seem more like a man who is desperately afraid,probably due to childhood trauma, of doctors themselves, rather than being afraid of specific treatments. Just like the dental evidence in the picture from last week showed that he clearly feared dentists. It boggles the mind what abuse led to such a pathological, self-destructive fear. These episodes show a different side of Hubbard: a man captive to painful, dark demons, who deserves to be pitied for them, rather than ridiculed… until you step back and wonder how Hubbard’s demons affected Scientology, and the suffering that they indirectly caused.

    • Many people with NPD have a powerful phobia of being discovered as weak (or in LRH’s case, a fraud). It’s all about control, and I see this struggle for control throughout LRH’s life.

      Also, it’s an element in modern masculinity to avoid seeking professional help because of not wanting to be seen as weak. Ask any health care insurance underwriter which group is the best risk and they would say engineering or software firms because they are 1) almost all male, 2) almost all young, and 3) mostly aren’t married. Women use health care at greater frequencies than men, which is why there are rate loads for groups with a lot of women and families. Nurses and hospitals are the worst risks because they know how to use the plans and use them a LOT. Nurses are also some of the most unhealthy group of people…..it’s very strange how that happens.

      • dmwinsd

        NPD? Should we all know what that is?

        • Captain Howdy

          Narcissistic Personality Disorder

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Sorry, we tend to speak in acronyms, metaphors and Scientologese.
          Always feel more than free to do,….uh….what you just did…

          • dmwinsd

            Sorry, in the light of day I see it sounds 1.1.

        • stillgrace

          You should thank every lucky star you have that you don’t know what NPD is.

    • grundoon

      CURACAO…. Mary Sue called me and said, “The Commodore looks dreadful, come up.” I walked in and thought, “Shit, he’s dying!” He was grey, his pulse erratic. I told him he was having a heart attack and I was taking him into hospital. I said I was calling an ambulance. He said he forbid it. I said I don’t care. He had embolisms in the ambulance. The doctors were very worried when he arrived, they thought there was not much hope. They put him on an anticoagulant and he started to get better…. He sat on the edge of his bed and said, “You disobeyed me”. I said, “Yes, I did, and I’ll do it every time your life is in danger.” He said it wasn’t that bad. I said, “I’m not going to argue with you. Ask the doctor.” The doctor told him he was 2-3 hours from death.

      LA QUINTA…. after Quentin’s death. I was watching the old man out there struggling to breathe…. wheezing, struggling for breath, flecks around his mouth…. his blood pressure was 230/140. Pulse was extremely erratic…. I said I’ve got to get you to hospital. He gripped my arm and said, “This time, NO!” We’d just come through the FBI raid [in 1977] and things were hot. I knew he was dying…. I explained it to him and he said “If I die, bury me in the date field.” … He went into a coma. I had live electric wires ready. I watched him come into his body and go out of his body…. I called Do [Doreen Smith, one of Hubbard’s teenage ‘messengers’] in LA and said, “Get me a doctor, make sure he’s a Scientologist, put him in a blindfold and bring him here. You’ve got 12 hours.” … Dr. [Eugene] Denk … took over after saying, “You’re mad, absolutely mad!” I slept for 24 hours, but when I came back, he was beginning to recover.

      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews/kima.htm

      • Poison Ivy

        I hate to say it, but just think if he HAD died in Curacao. There would be no Church of David Miscavige. Someone competent may have taken it over.

    • Midwest Mom

      I don’t feel pity for Hubbard; only contempt and disdain. He screamed like a banshee in pain after his motorcycle accident for weeks, throwing things at people and yelling at them. His ridiculous touch assists didn’t work, his “tech” didn’t help him, and he finally found relief through medication, and yet he didn’t have any compassion for others who were suffering from illnesses, diseases or pain and blamed everything on the individual for causing their own medical problems. Unfortunately, his belief that medical problems are caused by “not using the tech correctly” and also from negative thoughts, is still being enforced in Scientology today.

      He was such an evil man to make people suffer so much when he himself was a hypochondriac. This man’s crazy ideas are responsible for the deaths of more people than we are aware. As far as his hatred for the medical field, I don’t think that it stems from childhood trauma; I think that he didn’t want to admit that he couldn’t cure himself and it was more of a display of his extreme arrogance,

      • BuryTheNuts2

        “This man’s crazy ideas are responsible for the deaths of more people than we are aware.”

        This is so true and one of the most heartbreaking things…to control people and convince them they should not seek medical attention when they need it.
        To convince them that real illness was something they pulled in and it was simply a psychosomatic condition. How many genuine conditions that could have been controlled with regular medications.
        Blood Pressure, Epilepsy, Diabetes….

        Hubbard was an ASSHAT!

        • Poison Ivy

          The ultimate malignant narcissist. Stealing people’s souls.

      • sugarplumfairy

        Amen, mama..

      • stillgrace
      • Exterrier

        All true, I bet, and it brings us back to NPD. He is classic NPD. They often become church leaders, evangelists. He fits all the criteria, especially the heartlessness, zero empathy.

    • Observer

      Not only do Hubbard’s actions belie his faith in the “tech” he hypocritically expected everyone else to follow without question, the fact that Kima had to stand up to him when someone needed medical care demonstrates his utter lack of compassion. He of all people in Scientology had the financial means and the freedom to seek the help he needed, yet he refused and chose instead to inflict his pathology on others. He proved beyond the shadow of a doubt by his own actions that the “tech” is crap.

      And then there’s the Liechtenstein bank account shenanigans, but that’s for another rant.

      I am so glad both that Kima was there for the people who needed her when she was in, and that she got out when she did. It sounds like she had a good life after Scientology. RIP.

    • This refusal to go to the doctor for his injuries is probably what lead to his heavy drug use by the time he died. Even bones that are set properly can ache years later (so says my cracked collar bone,) then there’s nerve damage, blood clots,etc. and the whole slippery slope of self-medication that leads from there.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I’m not convinced hubbard was afraid of doctors because of childhood abuse.. I think he knew he was insane and he was terrified of being diagnosed and subsequently deposed..

      • Poison Ivy

        I didn’t read your comment before I wrote the one above. Yes, we are thinking along the same lines.

    • Poison Ivy

      Yet in the Navy seems he was always running to the doctor to get out of things. When he was in Savannah, was he in some sort of mental hospital? Was he afraid that doctors would commit him? Or was he simply afraid of being identified while he was on the run?

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Rest peacefully Kima.

  • richelieu jr

    She sounds like a lovely lady.

  • That link to Kima’s interview with Russel Miller is a real education into L Ron Hubbard.

    I hope everyone reads it, especially the lurkers.

    Just in case anyone missed it in Tony’s article, here it is again:

    http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews/kima.htm

    Great tribute, Tony, with new data I had not seen before!

    That seems to be happening a lot lately!

    Alanzo

    • Actually, I’m reading the whole set of interviews in that directory:

      http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Library/Shelf/miller/interviews

      They are powerful and taken together they give a pretty consistent picture of his paranoia, manic depressive personality and his amazing ability to charm people. And con people. Really fills out the story.

      • Yeah. Marty and Mike and Dave spent their whole careers in the Church suppressing the knowledge those people had from their personal experiences with L Ron Hubbard. And even after Marty and Mike “left”, they still continued to try to slosh on the hogwash of his hagiography.

        I think they have definitely lost that battle now, and I think they are starting to recognize it.

        Too bad for all the people they tried to destroy for telling the truth, I guess.

        Alanzo

    • Exterrier

      Yes, the Underground Bunker has become extremely rich in information and and historical personalities lately…… more of a gold mine than a Bunker. Things are opening up, sunlight is streaming in. I find it very helpful.

  • Thank you Tony. I hadn’t read this. Kima was a very caring person. Her caring extended to telling the unvarnished truth about her experiences with Hubbard, good and bad. Thank you Kima, rest in peace.

  • DMSTCC
    • 1subgenius

      With all due respect, that’s horrible, even for the time.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Yeah, If I have to listen to a Scientologist sing….I am sticking with Leonard Cohen.

        • BuryTheNuts2
          • Sandy
            • Sandy

              My fav- but especially sung by Nina Simone …

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Doh, you found my Ruin……Leonard Cohen sung by Nina Simone!!!
              And of course “Suzanne” is my favorite LC song!
              (((Hugs)))

            • Sandy

              I had an old 64 Pontiac convertible that I would drive as fast as she would go and sing Suzanne with Nina at the top of my lungs! Ahhhhh… *sigh* *chokes up a little*

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Yeah, certain music and the persistence of memory will do that to you.

              God I love that song.

      • Exterrier

        Yes, I agree. A terrible version of the song. Apparently it was written and performed by the Zombies first… and their way more coherent and less faux psychodelic version is on youtube. It is not all that bad by them….but they could sing.

    • Captain Howdy

      Here’s the original video for ‘I Love You”. The lead singer/most talented member, Larry Norman, quit the band right before the release of the ist album due to pressure from the other members and the OSA (phone harassment) to embrace $cn. They didn’t know that Norman was a secret fundie Christian and wanted to call the 1st album “We Need A Lot More Jesus (and a Lot Less Rock and Roll)”. Ha Ha I kid you not.

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibs-ynGPpN0

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Wow Capt., totally different visual and it makes the song “sound” different…better even.
        Nice brain trick!
        Must be the haunting chick in the vid.
        The lyrics still suck….
        I like the music enough to not get sick.
        But that is about the best I can say.

      • stillgrace

        I know the guy that sang vocals for the People after this song was out … John Tristao, known as “Bongo” to his friends. He also sang lead vocals for the touring Creedence Clearwater Revival, the Creedence without John Fogerty. I came home once to hear “Born on the Bayou” being belted out by Bongo in our music studio. It was amazing how much he sounded like Fogerty. He toured like crazy back then, and one year he bet me he had more frequent flyer miles than me. He lost!

  • Dorothy Gale

    Kima, Oh your beautiful face, rest in peace, fly with the wind.

    PS “I Love You” was an awesome 60’s song http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xO5rKF2w_ro

    • TonyOrtega

      Thanks. I’ve added the link to the story.

    • Dorothy Gale

      Note: “I Love You” was written by Chris White of the Zombies and covered by People!

      • Sandy

        Oh – maybe it is the Zombies I am remembering … never mind …

      • 1subgenius

        Then it must be good, he said in a sarcastic tone of voice.

        • Captain Howdy

          The Zombies had some good tunes but this wasn’t one of them. “I Love You” makes the Monkees sound like the Stones.

          People! also supposedly has the dubious distinction of performing the first rock opera called “Epic” onstage . They did a tour with the Who and they claim that’s where Pete got the idea for Tommy, this is doubtful as everyone knows he nicked the idea from the Pretty Things “SF Sorrow”.

          RIP Kima

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Yeah, The Genderless demon eating a turkey leg is back!
            ^^^ See, I am NOT misbehaving today.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Meh! I liked Quadrophenia better than Tommy anyway as far as the Who’s rock operas go.

            • Captain Howdy

              Yea, Quadrophenia is way superior to Tommy without question. Rock “operas” make about as much sense as “soft “rock.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              True!…however….occasionaly there is an album that stands far superior in its “Art” as a whole than picking out a song or two.
              I am not talking a contrived rock opera…that is too formulatic and attempted.

              I am talking about performance art that flows into a ” happy accident”
              The ones that get so deep under your skin that you cannot stop the continuity (even if you want to).
              That is when Music becomes a spiritual experience.
              And it is so beautiful when that happens.

            • Captain Howdy

              You mean the Velvet Underground ?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Lol, no. At least not my first thought.
              But good enough assessment. Bowie did that for me too…and don’t laugh …ELO.
              But we all evolve.
              When I listen to an album an the lump never leaves my throat….I fall deeply in love with it.
              Let’s put it this way….I would much rather be blind than deaf.

            • grundoon
          • Poison Ivy

            “I love you makes the Monkees sound like the Stones” – comment of the night.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        OK, I stand corrected. Maybe Chris could have used a comm course.

        I love you, I love you, I love you
        Yes I do-o-o
        I love you, I love you, I love you
        Yes I do but the words won’t come
        And I don’t know what to say
        I love you

        Uh, yeah…..I am sure of it.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Um, so much for the Hubbard Communications course.
      The music was good but the lyrics…er..derp

      Oh sure, That totally screwed up my snarky remark

      • ze moo

        http://www.musicoutfitters.com/topsongs/1968.htm

        There were worse songs in 68, Bobby Goldsboro’s Honey, Harper Valley PTA, the good old days had a lot of crappy songs. Plug the names in the topsongs website into mp3skull.com and give them a listen. Then you’ll know why people took lots of drugs then. Also the year of Steppenwolfs Born to Be Wild and Sly and the Family Stone and Hey Jude.

        I am not surprised Kima ran away after Lron became a druggie. Its one thing to be a flaming asshole, another to be an unbearable asshole. Ok, they are so similar who can tell the difference.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Oh No…You got it.. you are right. I forgot about “Honey”…..I still want to throw up….Oh god…
          The Nightmares!

          • Midwest Mom

            “My name is Michael, I’ve got a nickle, I’ve got a nickle, shiny and new………”

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I need hard liquor!

            • Captain Howdy

              I gotta a pint of potato juice..oops make that did.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Ya greedy fu(k!
              Lol.

            • Midwest Mom

              I have Nyquil.

            • “Oh I’ve got a brand new pair of roller skates, you’ve got a brand new key…”

            • BuryTheNuts2

              I wanted to “be” Melanie.

            • Dorothy Gale

              I have close-up photographs of Melanie singing with us at the “Battle of Portland”. I wonder how she feels about that today. :p

            • Ze Moo

              Melanie Safka received some ‘award’ from scamatology around 98-99. She is supposed to be Buddhist, so I don’t see why she would hang around with scamatologists. She did a song called ‘psychotherapy’ around 1970, maybe that had something to do with it. ‘Candles in the Rain’ is one of the quintessential 60’s songs. Loved her version of ‘ruby tuesday’. I truly disliked the ‘nickle song’ and ‘brand new key’. She did another greatest hits album around 06 with 3 or 4 very good new songs.

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dJF3j9ihPqM

            • Poison Ivy

              Oh God. I hated that!

        • I remember a lot of those, but I am fairly certain I have never heard this song before. How could I have missed such a thing 😉

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Luck?

          • Midwest Mom

            I’ve never heard it before, either.

    • 1subgenius

      With all due respect, that’s horrible, even for the time.

      Don’t yell at me, its just my opinion.

      • Sandy

        Nah Uh!!! I LOVED that song back in the day!!! Maybe you had to be there ………..

        • 1subgenius

          I was.
          Were you?
          Or as every angry volatile Viet Nam vet says, “You weren’t THERE man.”
          It sux. Either as main stream, or alternative.
          Have you listened to it? Oh yeah, you loved (CAPS LOCK) it back in the day.
          Apparently you either had to be on NO drugs, or TOO MANY to like this back then. I must have been “too medium”.
          The lyrics alone are so trite and repetitive in the extreme (can anyone verify LRH didn’t write them?) that its a wonder if the suicide rate doesn’t spike proportionate to listening, and the rest is an attempted musical rip-off of every summer-of-love song ever produced.
          Don’t yell at me, there’s no arguing with taste.
          I kid because I love.
          (I actually have edited this even before pressing the “post” button, and probably will edit further, perhaps ultimately in a futile effort to delete it altogether.)
          BTW, this rant has nothing to do with Kima, or her passing. May she rest in peace.

          • Sandy

            Darlin’ – I was a Minnesota kid, away from home for the first time ever, in Colorado at college, so please, do not let me offend in any way…At that time, no drugs. Later – a little diff… but really naive.

            Deepest respect for everyone who was “there” …

            • Sandy

              during those years

          • N. Graham

            I think you’re just glib.

      • ze moo

        Didn’t the Cowsills or the Partridge Family do that song also? It sounds like a 1968 song.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          The Cowsills?

          Hey, now there is no reason to be nasty.

          • ze moo

            The Partridge Family TV show was supposed to be based on the Cowsills, who had a couple of decent songs. The theme song to ‘Hair’ was one of theirs.

            • Midwest Mom

              Our teenaged babysitter was fired after playing the entire Hair album for us when she was watching my sisters and I when I was a little girl.

            • “Sodomy… fellatio… cunnilingus… pederasty… father, why do those words sound so nasty?”

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Conditioning 101A

            • Poison Ivy

              Having grown up in the same era, I can picture that happening on my street. Not in my family (liberal parents) but I can just imagine it happening to friends/neighbors.

        • Midwest Mom

          Nope. It was not on any of my Partridge Family albums.

      • Dorothy Gale

        It bought back memories I guess. It’s its horribleness that makes it so great- it’s the epitome of 60’s groovy-sounding beat what makes it such a classic. Maybe you have to be stoned to connect with it? Or maybe you think Frank Zappa was the bomb. Whatever your tastes in music… I love you.

      • jensting

        Bah – After all y’all read and understand “Dave Barry’s Book of Bad Songs” http://www.amazon.com/Dave-Barrys-Book-Bad-Songs/dp/0836214439/ref=tmm_hrd_title_0?ie=UTF8&qid=1359281942&sr=8-1 you may come back and yell at bad 60s songs.

        Tee hee

  • BosonStark

    RIP Kima. I liked reading her testimony in Miller’s book and elsewhere. She did the right thing.

    So, Hubbard went from 6 packs/day to 5 — I didn’t know he was such a health nut.

    • George Diaz

      He was trying to cure (or prevent) cancer. ;-D

  • 1subgenius

    This is way cool. He probably still has them, and someone should get him to scan them:

    “Levin says Kima told him that Denk gave Hubbard several pads of blank prescriptions that he’d pre-signed. “Hubbard was self-prescribing drugs for himself. A lot were oral, but some were by needle,” Levin says Kima told him. “Kima was afraid to talk about it because they were declaring people,” he says, referring to Scientology’s version of excommunication, “declaring” someone a “suppressive person.” She told Levin that Hubbard was dying. “He was so wacked out because of all the drugs. He’s going to die soon, and guess who’s going to take the fall,” she told him.

    Dincalci says that’s what he saw, too.“Yes, Denk pre-signed the pads,” he says. “I would write them up and go get them.”
    Dincalci says that during the Gerry Armstrong litigation, he was deposed by church attorneys, who asked him about the allegation. “I said, ‘I still have those pads from Denk,’ and then the deposition was over. They didn’t want to hear anymore,” he says.”

    • TheWidowDenk

      Yes, I would love to see a scan! This is super interesting to me obviously. I’ve been thinking since I read this post and, as closely as I can recall, Dr Denk was still on his Family Practice Residency in 1977. I also think he was working on a part time basis at Shaw Health Center.

      • TheWidowDenk

        I should add that Tony is the ONLY reporter type person who gets Dr Denk’s name spelled correctly. It’s NOT Eugene. It IS Gene.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I knew this would get your attention and I was hoping you would post.
        I am glad to see that you did.
        I too, would like to see a scan of these if at all possible!

        • TheWidowDenk

          Thank you for the kindness BTN. Just between you and me and the lamp post, I remember the song “I Love You” from 1968. I could even hum along as the song played! Yes, very much a Zombies sound. But back in the day the beginning part — introduction — was cut by the DJ. This song and the Dr Denk stuff is just so nostalgic. We’ll keep rooting for that scan …

          • BuryTheNuts2

            ; ) absolutely!
            And “R”…. I am just so glad to have you here.

          • Captain Howdy

            Mrs Denk, I just want to say as somebody who was married for 22 years I understand why you defend your husband and anyone who expects you to say anything bad about him has never been in love.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Touché Capt.

              My eyes are leaking… 😉

            • TheWidowDenk

              Perfectly understood and beautifully stated. Thank you.

          • I still have the single (45 rpm vinyl) of this song. Bought it when I was 17.

            • TheWidowDenk

              Wow!

      • Gene was still seeing patients at Shaw Health Center in 1977. My son, wife and I all saw him on occasion during the years we were staff at ASHO, including times after the move into the Cedars of Lebanon buildings.

        • TheWidowDenk

          Thanks for confirming my recall …

  • Anon Nom Nom

    This isn’t directly related, but “Going Clear” debuted at #3 on the New York Times bestseller list: http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2013-02-03/combined-print-and-e-book-nonfiction/list.html

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Great news!

    • Poison Ivy

      Yay!

  • danlocke

    Trivia: Robb Levin is the brother of (I think still active member) Geoff Levin (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0505602/) a well known TV composer. Robb and Geoff were in “The People” with Al Ribisi, who is Vonni’s and Marisa’s Dad and a very funny guy. Geoff used to compose music occasionally for Scientology projects prior to the Gold music programs. He did the music for Tom Solari’s slide show for ASHO in the 80’s. A brilliant musician and composer.

    In the early 70’s there was a PR caper where lots of pics of life aboard the Apollo were sent to the staffs of the non-Sea Org orgs. Kima beauty immediately attracted interest from all the guys at the org… “who’s THAT?!?!?”
    You still see that in these later pictures.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yes, Kima was striking. Very lovely.

    • Geoff Levin, Geoff Lewis, and Chris Many were all in a band called Celestial Navigations.

      • Chris Many? Would that be Nancy’s husband?

        • Warrior

          Yes, now ex-husband.

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    Kima was an angel. I first met her in 1970 when she came to the Publications Org in Denmark on mission with her then-husband, Tony Dunleavy, a veteran Sea Org member and executive. Kima was drop-dead gorgeous, with a commanding presence and a great sense of humor. My wife and I became good friends with Tony and Kima, and Kima looked after our daughter, Gwen, while Tina and I went off to the Apollo for training for a few months. I last saw Kima in 2006 when we had lunch in Seattle and reminisced about old times. She was one of the good ones.

    • DMSTCC

      And such a beautiful smile.

    • sizzle8

      Never knew she was married to Tony Dunleavy.
      Whatever happened to him?

  • Thanks very much Tony.

    When I was under “baby watch”, in Los Angeles, still on the RPF, in 2003, I insisted on going to the LA public library and after some feigning to ensure my watch person didn’t watch me too closely, I began looking up things on the internet at the Library, while my watch person sat 30 feet away reading a book.

    That’s when I first found Kima’s stories, on the internet. Thanks to all those early 1990s internet critics who put material out there.

    Her interviews, and Dincalci’s interview, and Julie Gillespie Mayo’s interview, and David Mayo’s interviews, all helped.

    Hubbard allowed “source” briefings, where Scientology PR people tell glowing LRH stories, endearing the members to Hubbard. Today Danny Sherman does a continued form of “source” briefings at church events, only he doesn’t tell the full story, by a long shot.

    The best source briefings, are ones from the people who were unquestionably trusted by Hubbard to serve directly with him. And those people, out from under any control by Scientology today, are freer to tell the whole truth.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Holy Shit Chuck!
      They had you on a baby watch? I must have totally missed this portion of your history.

      • mouseyhair

        Okay, newbie here. Baby Watch?

        • “Baby watch” is a scn slang for the guarding of a security risk or guarding someone on the introspection rundown. It’s to ensure they don’t escape.

          • mouseyhair

            Thanks Michael. Soooo much to learn. Makes sense now…”baby watch!”

  • Captain Howdy

    I was searching for photos of Kima Douglas on google and came across this on Gerry Armstrong’s site.

    L Con Croupier

    • stillgrace

      Captain, I found one of Kima when she was in her late twenties on the Apollo.

      • In that rightmost picture, LRH looks so totally out of place. Looks like a bunch of cool people except for that coot.

        • Poison Ivy

          In that photo I see an old blowhard taking advantage of well-meaning, hopeful, idealistic young people and stealing their souls.

    • stillgrace

      In your picture, the guy on the right is her husband, Michael Douglas. He was a surfer.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Soooo many people.. with soooo many secrets.. if only all the secret keepers would come clean, finally..

    • BuryTheNuts2

      It is like Pandora’s box. Isn’t it.

    • I’m not going to hold my breath on that one.

  • Mary_McConnell

    Wonderful article, giving Kima her due and having long time ex scientologist coworkers and friends share information about Kima that further details the L Ron Hubbard Kima knew. Her story is a must-read for everyone who leaves scientology. It was one of the first things I read on the internet and helped me step out of the Truman Show, for sure.

    Just so you know, Kima’s passing is noted and acknowledged over on ESMB memorial thread http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?7122-Memorials-Thread-RIP-sad/page47

    • BuryTheNuts2

      And there is a stunning pic of her in this thread (thanks Mary)

  • SP ‘Onage

    One thing is for sure. Scientology will never be able to erase Kima Douglas’s historically honest account about the good, the bad and very ugly part of L Ron’s life. For that, we should be grateful.

    RIP Kima

  • sizzle8

    Thank you for this Tony.
    I’m surprised this hasn’t shown up at Marty Rathbun’s blog.
    Then again, it doesn’t show Hubbard in a good light.

    • Mr. Fabulous

      Rathbun isn’t interested in the truth. Rathbun is interested in Rathbun, and having his rear end frequently serviced by the ready tongues of his sycophantic slaves.

      • B.B. Broeker

        Well, that’s sure as hell not what’s happening today in Martyworld – if you head over there right now, you’ll see Jim Logan and Steve Hall sparring pretty intensely withM&M over KSW. Logan even gets a jab in at Marty for breaking up his marriage to Annie Tidman.

        • Midwest Mom

          oooooo boy! Thanks for the tip!

          • SP ‘Onage

            Whaa?

            • Midwest Mom

              Arguments about MEST and KSW / Messy = Mesty (I’m a non-sci/never-been so I merged it into Mesty).

            • SP ‘Onage

              Wow! Lol’ed @ “Play Mesty for me.” Good one!

            • Poison Ivy

              BIG LOL MM!

        • Mr. Fabulous

          Well, I never said all of them were at it, just the majority. I wonder how long it will be before Marty does the inevitable and accuses them of being OSA or Slappy McPunch sympathisers at the very least? 🙂

        • Don’t those fools over at Rathbun’s blog realize that they all sound as loony as Tom Cruise in the now infamous video (the one released in 2008)? I can’t get through half of any one comment without a headache because the Sci-jargon is so thick and they all read like they were written by patients of a mental institution.

          I love that Logan and Hall are getting in barbs against the Rinderburn Show, but the impact is lost on me because I can’t get past all of the made-up words.

          These people have NO idea just how stupid their comments read to the general public.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            They don’t care Deck. They are Scientologists. They are smarter than us ( at least in their estimation).

            • Well if Marty was so goddamned smart, he’d know that a ‘Mission Statement’ only has a couple of sentences and should be designed to be short, concise, and effective. The bullshit he wrote today is a cultish diabribe, not a mission statement.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh my god…missed it.
              He wrote a mission statement?…Hahaha
              Um why does Marty need a mission statement?
              Is he trying to get his ISO certification?
              Or is he pretending to be a Fortune 500 company?
              Or even the local deli?

              Oh no, never mind!
              I am already hacking up a hair all at the thought!

            • I usually avoid his blog but the last two posts + comments really make me believe that the Indie Cultists are just as bad as the ‘Corporate’ Cultists. They argue themselves into the same corners and spend their time pointing fingers at others.

              I don’t feel sorry for any of them. They are purposefully keeping the blinders on when they have every opportunity to get out of the cult fog.

    • SP ‘Onage

      Still, she was once their sistren. I guess she’s been shunned…treated like a virtual non-entity. I find that quite callous of them, actually.

    • grundoon

      In Marty Rathbun’s latest post he advocates independent thought, challenging KSW literalists (such as his recent “op-ed” contributor, Tom Martiniano) who want only to reiterate Hubbard’s thoughts and speak in Hubbard’s words.

      To claim and instill the idea that there is no other possible route takes one right out of the realms of ‘technology’, science, and even rationality…. Once an injunction is laid down that it is ‘fatal’ or even detrimental to look outside the parameters of what another has said – be it a wise man, Hubbard or God herself – you have stripped a person of self-determinism and freedom to think. To think with, attempt to integrate ideas with evolving thought and technology, and foremost to discourse philosophically in terms evolving thinkers are developing are means by which humankind advances.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        . The Scientologist hallmarks of arrogance, aloofness, meddlesomeness, pedanticism and strained intensity are not an accident. They are inbred by scripture.

        Marty said this? ^^^
        Ah shit….Now I am going to have to go back and start reading Marty again.

        • Poison Ivy

          Marty’s just a big ol’ tease.

  • Mr. Fabulous

    “He screamed and hollered and yelled and slept in his chair. It was absolutely ungodly, six weeks of pure hell.”

    Hadn’t Hubbard heard of Touch Assists? :p

    • sugarplumfairy

      I think I love you..

      • Mr. Fabulous

        You’re only human I suppose. 😉

        • sugarplumfairy

          Human’s good enough for me.. That superhuman crap isn’t all it’s cracked up to be.. plus, the opening of the interguhLACtic headquarters keeps getting postponed..

  • Thank you, Tony, for posting this. Thanks, commenters, all for your shared memories. To echo those: Kima was one of the very best. She was always fair, kind, and trustworthy. Yes yes, she got angry, and her anger was fierce. She was as tall as me, back in the days when I was 5’11”. I think most of the guys aboard the ship were crushed out on her. I was. I’m glad she had so much time out of the cult to enjoy her life. I miss her with a great big ouch. K

  • Might have been nice if the author of this had checked with the family first before publishing to check all facts about my mother

    • SP ‘Onage

      Welcome. I am so sorry for your loss. I was sad to hear your mother lost her battle with cancer. My deepest sympathies to you and your family.

      • She did not die of cancer, check the facts please…….this is outrageous …..how dare you…who is spreading these unfounded facts

        • SP ‘Onage

          I mean pancreatic necrosis.

        • Anger issues?

          • Midwest Mom

            She just lost her mother. She’s allowed to be emotional. There’s no need to be unkind to her.

            • stillgrace

              I hope Kelly realizes that we have nothing but respect for her mother, and sympathy for her loss.
              I hope she knows she has an open-hearted audience here, if she wants to correct any misconceptions or missed understandings.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Tony did not say she died of cancer. He said she died of Pancreatic Necrosis. If this is wrong or anything else Tony said is wrong,…please set the record straight, but don’t be angry at us or Tony. We are not your enemy and we certainly weren’t your Mother’s enemy.
          We are truly sorry for your loss. She was a beautiful woman who was obviously loved by many…including people here who knew her.
          I am honestly sorry Kelly. And I do hope she rests in peace.

          • Captain Howdy

            Am I missing something ? Where’s the proof she’s Kima’s daughter ? I see nothing on this persons facebook page about it.

            • Midwest Mom

              It’s her daughter.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Her picture with her mom was on KIMA’s facebook page before. It is her daughter.
              Not that any of that matters.
              Sheesh…sometimes you just need to trust people. Especially when they are emotionally raw.

    • 0tessa

      I am sorry for your loss. Maybe he tried to contact familiy members, but for some reason was not succesful.
      Mr. Ortega treated her with respect, as the other commenters did, I think.

      • SP ‘Onage

        Jeez, thank god you came a long. I was starting to sweat!

    • Give us the facts. What is untrue in this story? Seems to me hes quoting what she wrote.

    • Midwest Mom

      Sending deepest sympathy to you and your family on the loss of your mother. You are very pretty just like your mom. So sorry that you weren’t notified before this article went out. I can understand why you would have liked to have been given a call in order to tell us about your mother, in your own words and with your own cherished memories.

  • For people following all the disguised drug rehab sites I came across this info graphic http://visual.ly/benefits-sauna-detox where I left a relevant comment . The parent site is here: http://toprehabs.com/infographics/an-infographic-on-the-benefits-of-sauna-detox/# they posted this info graphic only 2 days ago so it looks like they’re definitely still working on the drug money route.

    • ze moo

      “may help’, “may remove’. Nothing like trying to get around FDA guidelines and regulations. Long Live Jimmy Kowski, his ‘this is scientology’ comment made my day.

  • Listen fucktard – if you get too up yourself you might unleash the full force of Anonymous coming atchya … now that would be fun… you’ve been warned!

  • Midwest Mom

    ^^^This Marcotai fellow sounds quite jealous. Jealousy and spite aren’t attractive qualities in a man, Marco. Neither is being a Scientologist.

  • From your description, which may or may not describe the author, this Ortega fellow sounds normal enough. I’m not sure any normal person would actually care where he lives, so what’s your point exactly?

  • Paul Copercini

    I Love you and We have Eternal Life Existence Advancement and the Enhancement of Us Completely
    by Our Existence Presence and Actions as a Being. And With Our Golden Light ! Paul

  • danielholeman

    I worked next to the Medical Office on the Apollo and got to spend quite a bit of time with her, as well as doing a HAI workshop with her and Michael at Harbin Hot Springs. I always admired both of them. Saddened.

  • indie8million

    I never had the pleasure of meeting or working with Kima but, having gotten in in the mid 70’s, people like her were what we all strove to be at that time. Kind, caring, dedicated to understanding all she could about the tech so she could be of the most service to the most people. THAT was a REAL Scientologist. This type of person is what is meant by a Scientologist, not these current Kool-Aid drinkers who wouldn’t know Standard Tech if it bit them in the ass…or if it didn’t, for that matter.

    Thanks for sharing your time and love with us, Kima. I’m so hoping that the way you loved and cared for others will be the template that other “Scientologists” follow and that, by you being here, you give “Scientologist haters” a new view point of who we really are.

    Here’s to your new adventure.