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Scientology Catechism: Claire Headley Puts Our State of Clear to the Test!

Claire Headley is taking us on our journey to train as Scientologists. She and her husband Marc were Sea Org workers who escaped from Scientology’s International Base in 2005. She spent years working with Scientology’s “tech,” and was trusted to oversee the auditing of Tom Cruise. Go here to see the first part in this series.

Claire, last week on our trip up the Bridge to Total Freedom we completed New Era Dianetics and went Clear. That was a big moment. But you were telling us that in recent decades, there’s been an additional step at this point to make certain that we’ve actually gone Clear. Do we have that right?

CLAIRE: Yes, the Clear Certainty Rundown, or CCRD, is a set of steps to confirm the state of Clear, once the person has voiced the Clear cognition.

Up_The_BridgeLet me just point out that if the person did all the NED rundowns of the level we talked about last week and still did not voice the Clear cognition, he or she would be programmed for what is referred to as the alternate route, R6EW. I’m not too familiar with that route. In all my years in Scientology, I know of two people who did that route.

Either way, once you have stated the Clear cognition, you’ll be programmed to receive the CCRD.

The steps are quite simple: First, you’ll be asked to talk about your wins all over again, so the auditor can verify you actually did have the Clear cognition. Next, you’ll do Two Way Communication on the state of Clear. This is where you’ll be asked for thoughts, feelings, and considerations on the state of Clear. Then you will run Date & Locate on the exact time and place you went clear. The needle phenomena that will need to be present on the e-meter is a floating needle or floating Tone Arm, with a very loose floppy needle.

And that’s it. If you’ve made it, you’ll be congratulated on achieving the state of Clear, and you’ll get a Clear number.

Or you’ll be told you didn’t make the grade, and you’ll be programmed for more Dianetics auditing.

THE BUNKER: Help us understand the “Clear cognition.” That sounds like someone simply says, “Hey, I’m Clear.” But we suppose there’s more to it — after all, Scientology is an exact science.

CLAIRE: Yes, there is more to it. The Clear cognition is a statement to the effect that the subject has created his or her own reactive mind (or “mocked it up”) and that it’s now gone and they are no longer mocking it up.

THE BUNKER: So the subject has a cognition (revelation) that he had mocked up (created) his own reactive mind to begin with, and now it’s gone, and the floating needle confirms it.

So if we “mocked up” our creative minds, does that mean that it was never “real” to begin with?

In Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health, Hubbard writes about the reactive mind as if it were a product of evolution — in other words, a real, biological part of the human brain. So isn’t it bizarre that we would eventually conclude that we somehow invented the reactive mind as a mental construct??

CLAIRE: Believe me, I couldn’t agree with you more. This has always been to me one of those befuddling items. When I first studied about this theory as a child, I remembered thinking it was superbly complex for no apparent reason.

THE BUNKER: You also wanted to point out that there is something controversial about CCRD?

CLAIRE: I don’t think there is any person in Scientology who is unaware of the issues that have surrounded the CCRD. Namely, people being declared and then undeclared Clear like it is going out of style.

You see, it used to be that they would do C/S Series 123 checks on people. Quite simply, this is where the person is asked on the E-Meter if they have received auditing in a prior lifetime.

If they say yes, then it is reviewed and discussed with them to see what auditing they had and what level they think they achieved. I often saw this result in the person being programmed for a CCRD. That was my own personal experience as well.

And from that, I was declared Clear. That was in 1992. Well, in the early 2000s, Scientology leader David Miscavige decided that was all BS. So he went around the property and questioned all base staff about their case level. If they said they were Clear, he asked if they received Dianetics auditing and when, and if they said last lifetime, their Clear status was cancelled on the spot.

This is how I ended up in the situation of being well into OT 5 (I’d had 3 intensives according to my freeloader bill) and then was told I was not Clear and was put back on Dianetics.

THE BUNKER: Auditing in a previous lifetime? Hey, wait a minute.

Auditing was only discovered by L. Ron Hubbard around the year 1950. So if someone born in the year 1963, say, claimed to be a last lifetime Clear, it would mean that they had not only, in a past life, been someone who got auditing between 1950 and 1963, but also had died by 1963.

Wouldn’t that describe a pretty limited number of people?

CLAIRE: Yes that’s precisely right! And you just reminded me of two other things related to this.

You’d be surprised how many people claimed they were audited by Hubbard in a prior lifetime. Now that would be a number I’d love to see. I can tell you it was very high.

As was the number of people who claimed they were Quentin Hubbard in a prior lifetime. (L. Ron Hubbard’s second son, and his first son by Mary Sue Hubbard, Quentin committed suicide in 1976.)

THE BUNKER: No wonder L. Ron made it a rule not to compare notes with other members. So Claire, what are we spending for the CCRD?

CLAIRE: I believe this action runs around 10K. It gets delivered at the “Advanced Org,” so you’re paying more now for a higher class of auditor.


COST SO FAR: $193,197



We got amazing news this week — Kate Bornstein has kicked cancer’s ass!

A year ago, she was diagnosed with lung cancer, and we worried mightily about Kate, whom we had written about in May 2012, for a Village Voice cover story. Earlier in her life, as Al Bornstein, she had been the first mate on the Apollo with Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard as he ran the organization from the ship. Bornstein later went on to become one of the most noted transsexual performance artists in New York City, and her books about gender issues — Gender Outlaw, for example — became classics of the genre.

After her diagnosis, Kate’s friends put up a GoFundMe page and rapidly raised more than $100,000 for her treatments. And now, she’s cancer-free! We’re thrilled, and if you haven’t yet read her amazing memoir, A Queer and Pleasant Danger, do yourself a favor and pick up a copy.


Jon_AtackSteve Cannane Interviews Jon Atack!

We heard from Australian TV journalist Steve Cannane last night, who sent us a link to a radio interview he did with the Underground Bunker’s good friend and Scientology historian Jon Atack. They manage to cover a lot of ground in an hour, and you really get a sense of what a walking encyclopedia Jon is!

Cannane does an excellent job with his questions, and we’re really happy to see a program go into such depth on issues that still matter today.



Amped for Super Power!

Another hilarious send-up by Karen de la Carriere, J. Swift, and Angry Gay Pope…



Wendy Williams Has Leah Remini’s Back

Yesterday on her talk show, Wendy Williams played the clip of Leah Remini talking about Scientology on Monday night’s episode of Dancing With The Stars. Not only is Leah dancing this season with Wendy’s old dance partner, Tony Dovolani, but Wendy was really intrigued by what Leah had to say about her former church. And she didn’t think much at all about the church’s response. Take a look…


“I was shocked to find out that she was part of the Church of Scientology, but even more shocked that she’d left them. Because that seems like the kind of organization that you don’t leave or you’ll be found bloody in the alley out back. Don’t they seem like they don’t play? Cult-like? Anyway, she recently left the church, and she’s still talking about how important it is for her to have a good life after the church, including doing well on Dancing With The Stars…”

“We might find her sleeping with the fishes if she keeps talking. Leah, girl, you are like one of the bravest women I know. People don’t talk out about that Church of Scientology in such a way. Do you all know that? That what she’s doing is very brave of her? I mean, she’s really doing something, and this is what the church said…’We know this may come as a surprise to someone as self-absorbed as Ms. Remini, but we could care less if she wins or loses on Dancing With The Stars.’ Can you imagine if your reverend or your rabbi talked to you like this? Like, this is a person of the cloth here, talking to her like that. Well look, Leah, they’re watching you. Tony, those six hours, six days a week that you practice with Leah, lock the door, you might want to hire security outside if you know what I’m saying. Ms. Remini’s talking a lot. But we like it!”

And last night, Dan Harris on Nightline gave a nice wrap-up of Leah’s story, along with a number of other things that readers of the Underground Bunker are well versed in…



Mark Bunker Raising Money for the Homestretch

We’re still dying to see Mark Bunker’s documentary about Scientology that’s been in the works for a couple of years now. He’s crowdfunded it from the start, and now he’s making another request for funding which hopefully will put him over the top. And he’s also revealed a new full title for his film:

“Knowledge Report: Scientology’s Spies, Lies and the Eternity Prize”

Intriguing! Head on over and help Mark out.


Posted by Tony Ortega on September 25, 2013 at 07:00

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  • 1subgenius

    For anyone who missed it (geez there’s only over 9000 comments every day)
    DM has issued an official statement about the cancellation of events.

    • RMycroft

      I hear that he’s planning on announcing the opening of the new Ideal Big Blue soon.

      • RMycroft


        • Bella Legosi

          Are you leaking futuristic renderings of what an Advanced Org will look like in 5 years???

          • RMycroft

            Stick it on the back of a couple trucks and tour from city to city–that’s advanced!

            • Observer

              With none of those pesky property taxes or safety codes.

        • Observer

          It’s Big Blue Era II!

        • L. Wrong Hubturd

          That CANNOT be DM….he’s OVER the railing.

          • RMycroft

            They put a black drape on the foot-stool to make it hard to see.

      • 1subgenius

        The first stage was already completed::

        COB’s vision was realized today when the first Ideal Org Gas Station was opened amid great fanfare on Sunset Boulevard in Hollywood.

        • ThetaBara

          So does the gas stop working halfway through the tank and then have to be replaced?

        • edge

          Nice! The three grades of gasoline would be: Preclear, OT, and Super Power!

    • Whoknew

      I did miss that. Can you sum it up or link?

      • 1subgenius

        Sure. The link is hit refresh in your browser.

        • Whoknew

          Hahaha! Ok, got it. Thanks.

  • 1subgenius

    And contrary to reports he was not a Cabbage Patch preemie.
    He went full term, even though it was crowded in there, what with his sister, And then there was the whole gender confusion thing, but whatever. He turned out just fine and was just a normal Cabbage Patch kid.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Uhhhhhhh… this looks more like a Chuckie doll…

      • 1subgenius

        He can’t help it.
        He just wants to be loved.
        Is that so wrong?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Actually, the above looks a bit scarier than a Chuckie doll…

        • Observer

          In his case, yes

    • For a moment I thought he was the real WOG(G):

      • MadMaxi

        I grew up in the south(USA) and never heard of that. Thanks, learn something new everyday in The Bunker.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      Oh good, you DID repost from last night. Love it!

  • RMycroft

    Breaking News – Judge rules Narconon Arrowhead must produce documents – 20 Minutes Ago

    • Bella Legosi

      “Officials at Narconon Arrowhead have stated that can’t comment on the case, but said drugs and alcohol are “strictly prohibited” at the facility.” Well of course! $cilons don’t believe in physical addiction! Just throw those degraded beings in a holding cell, don’t speak to them (cuz they are obviously PTS), and wait for their convulsions to stop! If they haven’t died or blown, sit them down, make them read L Ron Hubbard, and throw their asses in a sauna for 5 hours while mega dosing them with vitamins! THAT’S how you “cure” drug addiction!
      And if the infallible “tech” doesn’t work? Blame the addict! But, NarCONon totally respects the “privacy” of those who signed up for SO (even tho NarCONon has ZERO to do with $cientology) or been talked into working for us!

    • Sunny Sands

      Not just any old documents. They must produce documents related to alleged incidents of drug and alcohol use by its staff, trainees and students.

      Not sure they haven’t already burned all such documents.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        So if they Don’t produce docs, does this mean someone could go to jail this time. Please, Justice Lady, There should be jail time!

    • DamOTclese2

      Ah, good to see that others are getting the update also. I just saw it on Twitter and forwarded it everywhere, including letting @kirstiealley know, hoping that David Miscaviage gets sent to prison.

      • joan nieman


    • DamOTclese2

      Tony just tweeted it! Sweet!

      • Bella Legosi

        There might be a double post today! *yay*

  • Sunny Sands

    Tent watchers’ update: The tent appears to have come through 3 days of rain unscathed; however, we did not have high winds. The parking lot does not appear flooded. At the other lot, a stack of concrete blocks has appeared, along with the black plastic pipes.

    • Mark

      Blast! Missed again!

      • i-Betty

        Does Piggy have wellington boots?

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          No, he just has the Sea Org lay down in front of him and uses them like a mud mat.

          • phronsie


        • Sunny Sands

          Yes, he does.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            That is too cute. I really think I want a little piggie next time instead of cats.

          • aquaclara

            OMG, we have a mascot for the tent. How on earth did you find this?
            So good. Actually, very cute.

            • Sunny Sands

              Aww, thanks. Found this little darlin’ with a bing search.

        • Mark

          Are you talking about Shortarse Miscavige or Snortimer Pigglesworth?

          • ThetaBara

            Snortimer’s not afraid of a little mud!

      • 1subgenius

        I’ve said it before but it bears repeating now:
        DM is praying to Xenu (might be Xemu) for a hurricane.
        Not only does it give him an out, but the Volunteer Ministers can finally descend on and prey on their own.
        I’m tellin’ ya’ now, there is a good chance of cannibalism in the forecast..

        • DamOTclese2

          Not only that, the insane slapping clown would literally blame the fringes of the Internet also.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thank you!

    • DamOTclese2

      Well fuck! Guess we had better all pray harder!

    • Jo

      Starting to think that tent got more super powers than the flag building.

  • DamOTclese2

    Also the Scientology assholes running their “NarCONon” fraud gets this handed to them:

    Crime Syndicate Ordered To Hand Over Records showing that Scientology’s “NarCONon” fraud is rampant with drug crime activities.

  • TonyOrtega


    • Robert Eckert

      You didn’t even let us crack a thousand!

    • Poison Ivy

      I just dropped back to see if there are any new comments to read before dinner – and now this?
      Damn, Tony!

  • Racnad

    The real Clear Cognition is when you realize you mocked up your reactive mind while reading Dianetics, or when someone first explained Dianetics to you.

  • phronsie

    You can tell I’m new to the bunker b/c I woke up this morning thinking Tony probably wouldn’t have anything to post today; I thought, “Surely he can’t post something relevant everyday!” And I actually felt a little worried for him!! LOL And here I haven’t had a chance to get to the comments from this posting, and I hear he’s already posted another! I’m glad we don’t have a Hole, or I would definitely be sent!

  • MO Mom

    Congrats to Auntie Kate!!! Cancer just sucks. So glad that you’re cancer free!! Hugs, fist bumps, toasts, etc.

  • MissCandle

    Hi Kate! I sent good vibes your way and I’m so happy that they helped. I loved your book and I love you! Best wishes for your future. Hope you hear from your daughter soon.

  • Doug Parent

    FYI my CCRD at AOLA in 2004 was about $5000. It was pretty much a cluster funk and about the least spiritual service I ever got inside the cult. I’d compare it to waiting in the merchandise return line at K-Mart on December 26th.

  • Unex Skcus

    The Steve Cannane interview with Jon Atack is great. Jon’s an awesome speaker, and Steve knows just what to ask about.

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    Best interview of Jon Atack I’ve ever heard! A must listen for Scientology historian experts to hear this excellent interview!

    Thankyou Tony, and that is why people ought to buy Jon’s book if they have not yet.

    And also why people ought donate to this blog, though the paypal link (thankyou again to Manhattan attorney Scott Pilutik for running that).

    This interview with Jon is so well done, and just how detailed Jon went in Jon’s researches into Hubbard’s life!

    Jon’s detailing the Fletcher Prouty aspect of Hubbard’s “sheep dipped” Naval history is must listen to.

    Claire’s discussion of the CCRD, what a breath of fresh air, but then Claire’s thoughts too are so clear and refreshing.

    This is an amazing blog, just astounding that you are doing all this Tony!

  • Bob

    Jon Atack mentions Hubbard took from Hervey Cleckley much of his information about the anti-social personality or SP. I did not read all of Cleckleys book Jon implies Hubbard borrowed copiously from Cleckley.
    That does not seem very plausible. Hubbard may have read the book but his simple description of an anti-social personality clearly was something Hubbard found on his own. And an SP label is something the church uses to alienate people who are dissatisfied with the church or fight back against incompetence, abuse or injustice.
    It does not mean the people are anti-social personalities. In fact they usually are social personalities.
    I think Hubbards policy letter about social and antisocial personalities is very accurate. It has little to do with the practice of declaring people SPs by the church. In many cases that practice is a method of shutting up detractors, whistleblowers, and abused persons. In most cases the SP label has nothing to do with the qualities of good or bad in a person.

  • Noni Mause

    What a fantastic interview with Jon Atak. Not just his knowledge but his compassion really comes through. And wow did Steve Cannane do a brilliant job. He’d obviously done his homework. My fantasy matchup would be cool, calm Steve Cannane vs histrionic Tommy Davis.

  • Dave Roberts

    Just finished watching the COB himself speak about the restoration of the Congress films. As a non-Scientologist I was curious to actually look and see the miserably, pretentious, little bully who physically assaults his subordinates. I noticed that they carefully placed him behind a lectern that covered him 180 degrees from the waist down. Presumably to hide the large box that he must have been standing on.

    I was interested to see him point out that sub-titles had been provided for people who are deaf. Since the application of the “tech” in Scientology is supposed to cure illness, then why are the deaf and blind not healed? Jesus didn’t seem to have a problem curing either illness. The following passage is taken from the Gospel of Mark, chapter 10;

    “Then they reached Jericho, and as Jesus and his disciples left town, a large crowd followed him. A blind beggar named Bartimaeus (son of Timaeus) was sitting beside the road. When Bartimaeus heard that Jesus of Nazareth was nearby, he began to shout, “Jesus, Son of David, have mercy on me!”

    “Be quiet!” many of the people yelled at him. But he only shouted louder, “Son of David, have mercy on me!”

    When Jesus heard him, he stopped and said, “Tell him to come here.” So they called the blind man. “Cheer up,” they said. “Come on, he’s calling you!” Bartimaeus threw aside his coat, jumped up, and came to Jesus.

    “What do you want me to do for you?” Jesus asked. “My rabbi” the blind man said, “I want to see!” And Jesus said to him, “Go, for your faith has healed you.” Instantly the man could see, and he followed Jesus down the road.”

    If Hubbard had truly found the keys to human suffering and illness, then why couldn’t heal the blind and the deaf?

    p.s. the faith that Jesus was referring to, was that Bartimaeus recognized Jesus as the “Son of David”, the Messiah whose coming the prophets had foretold many hundreds of years previously.