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HomelandSecurityFor at least eight months, the US Department of Homeland Security has been investigating allegations of human trafficking in the Church of Scientology, TONYORTEGA.ORG has learned.

Since at least the spring, agents with Homeland Security working out of its Tampa office have been interviewing former members of the church who have information about the way children are used as laborers in Scientology’s “Sea Organization” and other matters.

We put in a call to the lead investigator of the probe at the Tampa office, Justin Deutsch, who has been questioning former church members. We have not received a reply.

But we decided to reveal this news after talking to four different ex-Scientologists who gave us detailed information about being interviewed by Homeland Security, and after learning that the probe has been going on for so long.

“Human trafficking is one of the most heinous crimes that our special agents investigate,” said Sue McCormick, special agent in charge of Homeland Security Investigations Tampa after the sentencing of a trafficker in September (an investigation unrelated to the Church of Scientology).

According to the Homeland Security website, “Human trafficking is a form of modern-day slavery, and involves the use of force, fraud, or coercion to exploit human beings for some type of labor or commercial sex purpose.”

For years, former Scientologists have gone public with stories of how children as young as 10 years old are signed to billion-year contracts in Scientology’s “Sea Org” and are made to work incredible hours of menial labor for little to no pay. Many Scientologists, young and old, tell of working under inhuman conditions in involuntary servitude, held at locations where they had no contact with family members and no way to get messages to the outside world.

This isn’t the first time that such allegations have been investigated by the federal government. In February 2011, New Yorker staff writer Lawrence Wright revealed in “The Apostate,” his lengthy story about film director and former Scientologist Paul Haggis, that the FBI was investigating Scientology for human trafficking.

In a story we wrote at the Village Voice in March, we revealed that by the time the FBI investigation became public in February 2011, it had actually been dropped by the agency several months earlier.

In the summer of 2010, the FBI was so serious about raiding Scientology’s international base east of Los Angeles, it had gathered high-resolution images of the base with drone aircraft, had asked several ex-Scientologists to ride along in vans as the raid occurred, and had even recorded the tail numbers on Tom Cruise’s airplanes in case church leader David Miscavige tried to escape via Cruise’s Burbank hangar. By October 2010, however, those plans had been scuttled, and the FBI soon notified ex-church members that they were no longer confidential informants.

Informants in the Homeland Security investigation tell us they believe the DHS probe is currently active, but they also say it may be losing steam.

Multiple informants tell us that Deutsch and his fellow agents were extremely active as they picked up where the FBI had left off. But in recent weeks, those agents sound less energetic.

One informant described the DHS investigators as “dispirited.”

There are precedents which suggest that proving human trafficking offenses in the Church of Scientology is a legally difficult proposition.

Earlier this year, Marc and Claire Headley lost an appeal in their four-year attempt to sue the church under trafficking law.

In his decision, Judge Diarmuid O’Scannlain of the Ninth Circuit described the harsh life the Headleys experienced in the Sea Org…

In keeping with Church disciplinary policy, the Church censored the Headleys’ mail, monitored their phone calls, and required them to obtain permission to access the Internet. In addition to their normal work, Marc and Claire were at times assigned manual labor, sometimes as discipline. This labor was often yard or kitchen work, but some of it was more difficult or unpleasant. In 2004, for example, Marc (along with hundreds of others) was assigned to hand-clean dried human excrement from a large aeration pond. This two-day assignment was levied as discipline for problems in Marc’s work. As another example, in a six- to eight-month period in 2002, Claire was denied dining hall privileges, had to subsist on protein bars and water, and lost about thirty pounds.

Marc and Claire experienced and observed verbal reprimands and physical abuse while in the Sea Org. A senior Scientology executive physically struck Marc on two occasions and another official punched him on another occasion. A co-worker shoved Claire once. Marc and Claire allege that they saw senior Scientology leaders physically abuse other staff.

As noted above, Sea Org members may not have children while in the ministry. Yet in the mid-1990s Claire twice became pregnant. Each time she had an abortion. She testified that she was told that she would be placed on manual labor and required to participate in confessionals if she did not have the first abortion. She testified further that she was told that she would face “consequences” if she did not have the second abortion. She says that other Sea Org women who became pregnant were assigned manual labor (such as yard or kitchen work) as co-religionists to convince them to have abortions.

Despite that evidence, Judge O’Scannlain suggested that the Headleys might have had more success in court if they had not sued under the trafficking statute.

(We asked Marc Headley if he had been interviewed by Homeland Security for its investigation, and he said he had not.)

If the DHS probe is winding down, its agents may have discovered, as did the FBI and the Headleys, that proving human trafficking abuses can be a daunting proposition, particularly when, as is often the case, ex-Scientologists do not open up about their experiences until years after they leave the church. Many say they fear to speak earlier because of the church’s well-established reputation for retaliation.

We will update this story if we get a response from Deutsch or a spokesperson for Homeland Security.


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  • Mr. Fabulous

    And so it starts!

  • About fucking time! Let’s do this!!

  • Mat Pesch

    Can you say “under cover agents”. That’s the ticket for a conviction and I don’t need to remind the government of that.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      No Kidding!
      Oh my gosh, unless they already tried that and the undercover agents became Scientologists?
      Ooooh, that could be a tricky assignment!

  • jensting

    About time, too!

    It also has to hold water, legally – that is one of the things that make civil society different from a cult. So, sometimes the wheels of justice grinds slowly, but I prefer it to the other kind…

    • Hey Jens! ^^what you say exactly so

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Thank goodness these agencies might not want to spill the beans on when they are “ending off”/

    But dispirited? Tell me how spirited these child scientology laborers look. As long as there are such Human Hell Holes like the Cadet Org, Which Is Still In Existence as of December 10, 2012 in this video by Darth, the U.S. Authorities damn well need to get re-spirited. Tired of hearing the “it’s so hard” bawww. If one of these HS personnel had one of Their children in the Cadets, I’ll bet it would get easier in a mother’s heartbeat.

    As for my spirit, it is definitely Up hearing of the important story and thank you Tony for bringing it.

  • I am sorry to poop on everybody’s party, but I really can’t remember any successful raid on a cult that resulted in a cult being dissolved. They either commit mass suicide [Koresh, Jim Jones] or all the victims deny that they have ever been abused [the Texan evangelicals bigamists]. I suspect Scientologists will chose the second option “RPF – Iove it!”

    • We don’t need it desolved, we need it weekker and we need the abuses to stop or be slowed down.

    • Observer

      Are you referring to the Mormon FLDS polygamists in Texas? Not the same thing as Christian evangelicals, who don’t believe in polygamy.

    • 1) The FLDS is the antithesis of what the word “evangelical” means; 2) Not “bigamists”… polygamists.

      • I just googled it. You’re absolutely right. It was the Mormons I was referring to.

  • mook


  • John P.

    This is very interesting news. I’m glad to see that another investigative organization is taking up the cause. However, I think the biggest issue that the investigators face is the ability to get prosecution resources committed to what would likely be a long and expensive fight. Prosecutors are always constrained in their budgets, and they constantly must look for the most “bang for the buck” in deciding which cases to try.

    At one point, I looked up the prosecutorial budget for Riverside Country, where Int Base is located. It was (IIRC) something like $100 million for 2.3 million population. A trial of Scientology for any sort of criminal behavior could drain a significant portion of that budget for a year or two. What prosecutor would spend $15 million a year for two years prosecuting a highly specialized type of case that they may not even have the expertise to win, versus spending that same money putting away a few thousand armed robbers and drug dealers that would make their jurisdiction measurably safer (and potentially would lead to successful re-election campaigns in locales that elect their district attorneys or attorneys general).

    Same issue applies in federal prosecution of the cult for human trafficking. As I wrote previously, both on Marty Rathbun’s blog and on Tony’s at the Village Voice, the prosecution for human trafficking is likely to come from a particular section of the Department of Justice. That organization is called the Human Rights and Special Prosecutions Section (HRSP), and it is the newest divison of the US Attorneys (and presumably the smallest). Reading the DoJ web site ( suggests that they’ve got oversight over a grab bag of charges that are either related directly to human trafficking or don’t really fit elsewhere. Much of that includes international legal issues, a very specialized type of lawyer indeed (and I know Tony has one of those on tap as an informed source…). I was not able to find the budget for that particular group, but I bet that trying a case against the cult could take up the entire budget for the section. And it would be hard for the DoJ to bring in experts on religious freedom issues to deal with that, at even more expense to the HRSP budget.

    As a result, I would have to believe that the investigation is going to lose steam at the same point as the FBI investigation did — when they think they have enough evidence to refer the matter for prosecution, but the HRSP says they don’t have the budget to prosecute, even if the evidence is compelling.

    Note that I am not at all suggesting that the DoJ or the HRSP are corrupt or shirking their duty in any way. This outcome is a function of budgetary economics rather than politicization or any influence that the cult may have in Washington (which I believe is basically nonexistent, despite their recent opening of a lobbying office in DC).

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Doesn’t Homeland Security get to pull up and peruse records that no other legal body can in the U.S., including peeking under religious cloaks?

      Two of the main expensive and time consuming problems in the past is willing witnesses and vaulted financials. Now even the Indies are starting to spill and if HS can play financial forensics, it’s an entire new stage.

      For instance, there’s never been medical insurance coverage and medical labs can determine the true health of an individual and how long they have been in whatever condition. Then there would be doctor records, which would usually be Only scientologists if any. And psychological interviews would provide another layer of conditions. This is just one factor of human rights abuses, human trafficking that scientology spokeholes would Not be able to distort.

      Confiscated passports are another red flag. Miscavige right now might be forced to allow all to have their passports with them. Miscavige has gone exceedingly careless and wreckless in recent years. There are many reasons why it should be less expensive and a time sponge now. We could all use The Christmas present we’ve been waiting for so long. Gift wrap optional. I would be happy to decorate the jail cell in goldenrod faux glazing and hang pictures of his many victims on all the walls, floors and ceiling. Also, mandatory 24/7 piped in soundtrack of We Stand Tall and Thank You For Listening. Santa is sometimes naughty too.

      • At the very least, the cult should be forced to return confiscated passports and visas to their owners. Then if they decide to leave, they can do so without alerting the very folks who will try to chase them down to bring them back.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        I agree Hole, from what very little I understand about any of this crap….the DHS has some long tentacles and leeway.
        They (if I remember correctly) were given a “pass” on certain politically incorrect things to go balls to the wall on discovery.
        However, as we can see from the Airline industry…It seems like they decided to go the PC route and not profile anyone except grandmothers and four year olds.

        Sorry….I know that sounds totally Politically WRONG…But stereotypes usually come from a type of pattern of some type.
        I totally agree that sweeping generalizations are just NOT RIGHT. But for gosh sakes….how about a little common sense?
        Is that too much to ask?

    • Your concern about cost is valid but the truth is if the US Government wont do it don’t expect anyone elese to. The US has bigger guns and more money than the COS. If the case is solid then we as tax payers need to demand action be taken.

    • sugarplumfairy

      I’d be willing to bet that the very best “experts on religious freedom issues” would testify against co$ for free.. They’d probably be lining up..

      • John P.

        In my comment, I was thinking about the difficulty of getting attorneys with the experience to work for or with the DoJ to anticipate and then argue the religious freedom issues that the cult would inevitably bring up. I forget the name of the guy, but the cult has long had on retainer a heavy hitter NYC constitutional law guy to deal with religious freedom issues. He was present in the gallery in the Debbie Cook case (the guy with the raincoat) but did not actively assist the cult’s legal team inside the rail.

        You’re right… there are many people who could do a good job as expert witnesses to testify, and who would do it for peanuts (compared to overall trial expenses). One of the best is Prof. Steven Kent of the University of Alberta (which is a region of upstate Montana, apparently), who Tony has quoted from time to time. He has successfully testified on behalf of cult opponents in various court cases in the past.

        • sugarplumfairy

          Lol.. I love Montana.. Canada should count it’s lucky stars to have such a fine state in it’s union..

          And i bow to you on the DoJ issues.. I don’ really know anything legalese.. I do know a few good lawyer jokes, though..

          And i’m pretty sure you’re right about the difficulty of anticipating and arguing any issue with co$.. It’s difficult to anticipate crazy..

        • moxon moxoff
          • John P.

            Yes. That is who I was thinking of.

        • FistOfXenu

          I really hope I’m just suffering humor burnout here and you’re joking. Canadians don’t usually find it funny to be mistaken for Americans. But yeah Kent is a real heavy hitter against $cientology. And I bet he knows others that’ll jump at the chance to help.

          • John P.

            The thing about Canada goes back quite a while on this blog. It’s more about lampooning Americans who are too stupid to realize that Canada is a separate country than anything about Canadians. I was shocked to realize that more than half of American high school students didn’t know Canada was a separate country and couldn’t find it on a map. Pretty depressing… There were some fairly epic riffs about Toronto, a small hamlet in far upstate New York, somewhere above Buffalo that involved commenter CanuckXenu. Most people took that in the spirit in which it was intended. But hey, we can all manage to get along protesting the greed of the owners that is cancelling yet another hockey season on both sides of the 49th parallel…

            • FistOfXenu

              I’m relieved to hear that and sorry I had to ask. I’ve only been following Tony the last few months and I guess I missed that was happening. Thanks. You’re right, it’s depressing that so many students barely know where they are. That kind of ignorance can’t be good for our foreign policy either. Future politicians making decisions about places they can barely find on a map is a scary thought.

          • piper


    • piper

      Unless any Office has the where-with-all to create something safe, a mind-changing neutral space for brain-washed believers to go to and chill out for a while to get perspective, the people they’re going to “free” may not even leave the Hole for fear they’ll “be declared” and will loose all and family!

    • piper

      Betcha the new Scino bldg in D.C. for “Human Rights” issues is within walking distance of the HRSP office. Do I sniff a con job in the works?

  • Vistaril

    I suspect I might be able to guess who the ex-Scientologists you have spoken to are. Accordingly, DOX PLOX.

    I really don’t want to get my hopes up. So far as I am aware, the last time there was confirmation of a US government invesitgation into Scientology was on 7 January 1993 when the Department of Justice closed its file (50-11E-13) into “Involuntary Servitude and Slavery”. I would love to hear from Marty Rathbun and/or Mike Rinder about how they managed to dodge that bullet.

    • Yes, that would be very interesting information from Marty and Mike.

      You would think they would have mentioned this by now. I wonder if they discussed this with Marc and Claire during their legal battle?


    • piper

      I do recall us all getting on the petition hotline a number of times in the last few years to demand it, though. As far as I know we made the quota’s required.

  • Poison Ivy

    OMG – I come back from hiatus to find this! “Dispirited” Homeland Security Agents? Boo hoo. Come on, guys. You and the FBI – you all know what’s up with the cult of Scientology. You HAVE to find a way to prove it. I simply cannot believe there is not enough evidence out there to make a case. President Obama said (I’m paraphrasing) that the US had to end human trafficking here if we are going to place judgment on other countries. Well? It’s right under our noses, and being paid for by OUR TAX DOLLARS! Both the way Scientology treats its workers – especially kids – and its tax-free status are crimes in my book. No wonder little Davey thinks he’s the Master of the Universe – again and again, the government has either chosen not to or failed to catch him at his crimes. Thank you for getting this up, Tony.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      We’ve been wondering where you’ve been. And yes, Miscavige is getting very, very careless. This is a good thing.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Yah, ivy, we’ve missed you.. Waving hello.. which ain’t easy with all fingers and toes crossed !!

      Hoping and praying that Obama is taking a personal interest in this one.. His human trafficking and slavery speech back in September really gave me hope.. And then nothing.. But this is something.. And anything that weakens co$ is a good thing..

      • piper

        Uh, not with the most recent dono to the nation of Islam from little Dave. Bama will look the other way and let underlings do what they may.

    • I cant believe the FBI or DHS isnt willing to go in and take the propery and seize the bank accounts. Seriously.

    • moxon moxoff

      Trying to keep it snazzy for you! Welcome back.

    • Karen de la Carriere

      The Sea Org employs a huge amount of overseas workers for their slave labor. Because the US social media and US press and media are much more widespread in disclosing Sea Org Horrors, less Americans are recruited and more and more Non -US are rec ruited. I know this because I receive mail from every continent with updates on the scene.

      +++++Flag Land Base is cluttered with workers from Eastern Europe and Latin America. These are Eastern Europe refugee types who came to the USA thinking they would lead a better life, that the USA was an affluent “Hollywood” type Disneyland environment and they are drawn to America only to be trapped in Sea Org sadism.
      Mexican Sea org Base is full of Guatemalans, El Salvadorians,
      Nicaraguans etc. There are repeated reports of them having to work over
      sleep deprivation where they fall asleep standing up. Staff pay is outrageous. They are in lockdown in the Sea Org Base without ability to escape.
      +++++Australian Sea Org Base have a bunch of Taiwanese recruits. Again Australian media have been loud and vociferous and the Australian Government has gotten alerted and wise as to what is going on.

      Passports are confiscated on arrival to a Sea Org Base. The Sea Org
      Member gets almost no pay and certainly not enough to finance a return
      trip to his homeland with no passport.

      Sadly, Homeland Security cannot do anything for the NON-US grotesque conduct of Scientology Inc’s behavior outside the US.

      There needs to be an International inquiry tasking all countries into consideration and a co-ordinated Global investigations.
      The Crime Boss Miscavige needs to be accountable for masquerading as a “Church”.

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Karen, glad to see you sweetie. It has been a while. I have been loyally following your abuses thread at Clambake and it is so GREAT! You have done such an admirable job with that thread.
        Thanks so much.

      • Karen de la Carriere

        More on “Human Trafficking.”

        Org members have to wake up, at 7am. They work til midnight. These
        are often 80 to 100 hours a week. Meal breaks are no 15 mins. There
        is no such thing as a full day off, not even once in 6 months. 3
        weeks annual leave has long since been cancelled. They are paid a
        pittance $10 to $20 a week for 80 to 100 hour weeks.

        There is no contact with the outside world, cell phones not permitted, Security listens in if call is made to family. No radios, no TV, no internet. Socializing or talking to non Sea Org forbidden.

        When they
        eventually get wise and leave, there is no 401K, no retirement, no
        nothing even after 20 to 30+ years service. Sea Org members undergo a
        “signing of release” on video camera before they are permitted to leave.
        This is 1/2 thick worth of documents that they will never go to media,
        never go to law enforcement, never speak of anything that went on in
        the Sea Org. One of the reasons we get LESS stories than there should
        be, is this tactic of locking it all down with HUGE threats of $50,000
        per violation and the departing Sea Org member BELIEVES it as he signs.
        Homeland Security would get a HUGE amount more of informants if the Psych Ops of the video camera signing was not done on them on departure. OSA personnel are there ( but out of visio of the camera), A lawyer can be there, Security Huards are there, it is most often overwhelming to a departing Sea Org Member who is battered and suppressed already.
        I believe in this phrase.
        The Chickens will come home to roost.

        • This all is very true in the details. I’ll share few details from my personal experience. I was working about a year in the SO, and had trouble thinking clearly because of constant lack of sleep. After the work there was a waiting for a bus time, then waiting for the other roommates to get through their shower time… It was well pass midnight I could get to bed. At the end I was skipping going to the dorm and slept in the org on the floor, in my auditing room. That added few hours to my sleep time and I felt much better. Because I was on the religious visa (as I was explained) I could not be paid for my work. So I got nothing for working. I had 1 pair of shoos, with wholes on both of them. I used to line in them a few napkins to cover the wholes and to not walk on the floor. There were no conditioner in my auditing room, size of a closet. It was very hot summer time and shoes would get smelly, as they never had enough time of the feet to dry. I had to take them off and hide outside the auditing room to get rid of a nasty smell. I had no money to buy the new pair, and all my CSWs I kept writing asking for second pair came back unapproved.

          • sugarplumfairy

            I hope you are well and safe now, Tatiana.. Please keep speaking out..

        • And it is very true about the passport. It was taken and hidden from me from the moment I arrived. At the end, when I was leaving (I did not blow, but went through the leaving routing) I was taken to the lower to sign the papers (to refuse my rights to speak) mentioned by Karen in exchange of getting my passport back.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Yeah PI, Tony even redecorated the bunker just for you!
      We missed you.

  • I am so excited in my pants

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Paul, now I have an image stuck in my head!
      Damn it to hell man!

    • I highly doubt THAT is why, lol!!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    At some point one of these investigations will play out without being aborted because of lack of funding, lack of evidence, apathy or whatever else makes these Agencies keep laying down their swords.
    There is just too much wrong here for this to continue unabated.
    Something has simply gotta give…

  • WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • I think this makes up for every single one of those TSA searches of frightened children and incontinent grannies under the guise of Homeland Security.

    Dey be nasty feckers!

  • Observer

    I’d like to alarm my wiener dogs by doing a happy dance, but I’m going to go with cautiously optimistic. I don’t like the sound of “dispirited”.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    I seem to recall Jenna’s book being delayed publication for a month or so–but when it comes out, I’m hoping it will generate some public steam about this. There were a few other books as I recall due out within the next month or so — can someone refresh my memory?

    Also, I have been absent for awhile and like Poison am just now trying to catch up with everything — between Tony, the Rodeo, Marty, and the other sites — my monitor runneth over. I was hoping someone would pick up the Rodeo Roundup baton…. Was there a book published within the last few weeks? I am just up to the Dandar series of events–talk about dispirated!

    I suspect JohnP is right about the where-with-all to hang in for a prosecution. If I have time this week, I will nosey around DOJ, it’s budget, and the crim div players for more info. The relationship between key folk at DHS and DOJ attorneys isn’t always stellar. Often, if it’s not neatly tied up in a bow, prosecutors won’t touch it–they go up the food chain to have the investigation stopped before it has even been completed. Investigators are often “dispirated” by the powers that be. What could help though are some of the case files from INTERPOL on that young gal that was held for years on the Freewinds. The fact that it is run by an American — regardless of the flag the ship flies under — might help.

    With the amount of abuse that $cientology, Inc., puts out into the world, there WILL be retribution at some point. But damn, it can’t come fast enough! And it can’t ever be harsh enough.

    • sugarplumfairy

      Missed you, Prefer!

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        thanks SPF!

    • DeElizabethan

      Speaking of INTERPOL. I remember last year at some event and believe it was MissCabbage, live or on video telling us that they even had some one or some good link into Interpol, like in their pocket, on board, and how it was such a good win for them, and of course much applause. I remember being very impressed tho puzzled because I always thought they didn’t like the agency in the past.

      • PreferToBeAnon2

        That’s interesting about INTERPOL. I was an analyst there in the days when there were telexes, lexitrons (a souped up word processor with big floppy disks), and case files housed in paper folders. Having an “in” with the INTERPOL-US is not that big of a deal. They were (and I assume still are) comprised of detailees from all of the US law enforcement organizations and mainly serve a coordination role for foreign countries needing something–typically a criminal record check or a description of a new technique or technology for something that our police force is using. Sometimes they would serve as the US rep on an international task force. They do not do investigations. When there is a hot case, the foreign country will deal directly with the case manager or OIC at the FBI or DEA, etc. They would also serve as the “front” when coordinating with foreign countries and our local police force investigations (such as police investigations of local syndicates, etc.–you couldn’t have the police chief of LA, Clearwater, etc., talking to foreign countries without the Feds). The Chief is a political appointee and agents would rotate in and out every year or so –it was considered “by the boys” as a fluffy desk job.

        I know they are still kicking around though even after the advent of DHS — being able to CC folks on a secure Intranet really has rendered them moot. Coordinating intel on $cientology abroad would be something they would most likely get stuck with. Especially because their crimes cross so many of our agencies–INS for immigration and foreign nationals crap, FBI for fraud and kidnapping, IRS/Treasury for the movement of dollars, etc. Not only that, WITHIN US agencies their crimes cross Divisions. Law enforcement/intel folks are highly territorial and proprietary. My gut tells me that there is a US task force on them somewhere. INTERPOL may have a seat on it but is not a mover and shaker. And if there is any “wind” of fraternization I am positive that the typically competitive “boys” would out and oust that PDQ.

        Now, having an “in” at INTERPOL with some of the member countries is a different story. They actually have investigators and are often a division of their national police force. Their HQ is in France.

        • DeElizabethan

          I recall it to be someone in and around Columbia, around where they port at times, which added to the strangeness to me. Some politician or VIP. Thanks so much explaining that and now see it’s not that important anyway.

  • dwayners13

    David Miscavige is the “Teflon Don” of cults. The man’s been at the top of a global (some would say criminal) organization for 30 years, with a long & documented history of criminal behavior, yet he seems to operate with impunity & immunity from prosecution. Despite the number of people who have come forward to report physical & emotional abuse, human trafficking, kidnapping, money laundering, bribes, blackmail, cover-ups, evidence tampering, being held against their will (I.e., ‘the hole’), harassment, fraud (& the list goes on), he seems to be untouchable. What is it going to take?

  • Sid Snakey

    Whatever the state of this investigation, law enforcement agencies in general prefer to operate outside the glare of publicity and this is even more true with any investigation of the Church of Scientology.

    Tony – I appreciate you are a journalist and have a journalist’s instinct but for reasons that I think would be obvious to most people I do not think you will have helped matters by making your information public. I presume that you have solid evidence that the CofS themselves are already aware of this investigation, since given our recent understanding of the lengths the church may go to in order to try and influence people in a position of authority on such investigations we wouldn’t want to alert them if they weren’t already aware.

    I concede that it’s possible it will have made no difference, but it cannot have helped.

    If we all really and truly want one of these investigations to amount to something then I strongly feel that if we are aware of ongoing investigations we should resist the urge to talk about it on the Internet. If there WAS some benefit to publicizing ongoing operations then I’m sure the DHS/FBI would be quite capable of sticking it on THEIR website.

    I appreciate you may well have your reasons for making this public, which I am unaware of, but in general it’s a bad idea (in terms of enabling an operation such as this to come to a successful conclusion).

    • I think it’s fair to presume that if Tony learned about the investigation, Scientology knows about it as well. They are the most paranoid cult in the universe. Probably half the PIs in LA and Florida work for them. And a good number of alleged indies are spying on one another and working for OSA. So I doubt Tony is telling us something that David Miscavige doesn’t already know.

      • DeElizabethan

        Right on… Minderbinder

    • At this point, the government is going to have to deal with an outcry from citizens for doing nothing about Scientology since 1979.

      They are going to have to deal with the fact that their inaction/neglect has consequences. And the most important of those consequences are the abuse and criminality suffered by citizens from the Church of Scientology being able to operate freely around the world without being prosecuted.

      That is the most important factor here: The government’s problems come from their own neglect of duty.

      Don’t blame journalists for doing their jobs, and for citizens who wish to live in a society free from the criminal exploitation of people from the Church of Scientology.


      • moxon moxoff

        I could learn a thing or two from you, Alanzo. My post was going to go something like this:

        DHS can investigate my butthole. Pool your damn resources with other agencies and groups and figure shit out. California and Florida folks in particular should be talking to each other. I’m sure the law enforcement and licensing agencies in both states have learned a thing or two in their years of dealing with this group. SRSLY, do you need me to come in and organize your shit? Also, if the politicians get in the way, get some dirt on them and kick them to the curb. That is to say, put on your big girl panties for reals. We’re supposed to trust you people with terrorists and you can’t even handle some throwback cold war bullshit from a “religious” cult? GAH!

        But I liked your post better.

        • Exactly. All I can say is EXACTLY.

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Loud and constant!…what is that shit about a “SQueaKy WhEEL”.
            FUCKING SQUEEK!!!
            Yammer, blather, yada, yada, yada….Until we WIN!!!

          • DeElizabethan

            HEAR! HEAR!
            Edited: HEAR! HEAR! HEAR! HEAR! HEAR!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Moxon, You are my total “GIRL CRUSH”

        • sugarplumfairy

          Lol.. “…pool your damn resources and figure shit out..”

          I think you should run for president..

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        wow, exactly.

      • Sid Snakey

        You have missed my point. To be honest, I didn’t expect anyone to agree with me since we’re all frustrated at the quite frankly bizarre way in which the CofS seems to carry out its abuses with impunity.

        However, can you explain to me how I am “blaming citizens for wanting to live free of the criminal exploitation of the CofS”?

        I’m also not blaming a journalist for doing his job – like I said, I understand Tony is doing what Tony does.

        However, that doesn’t stop me from voicing a concern that given the ridiculous reluctance of ANY government agency to get involved with the incredibly well-documented abuses, you may well suspect that pressures or influences are being brought to bear to stop investigations, or that concerns about the “religious” aspect of this are making investigators wary of stepping in.

        Therefore, I stand by my original point that we should be mindful that investigators will make more progress, and will likely suffer less interference if they can keep their activities outside the glare of any publicity. Tony and others have to decide when to make such revelations public – personally, I would rather they waited until investigations were either completed or definitely dead in the water. I think the revelations made by Lawrence Wright concerning the FBI investigation helped his article more than they helped the FBI investigation.

        • Sorry. You didn’t blame anyone for doing their job, nor citizens for wanting to be free of Scientology criminal exploitation.

          But you can’t ask citizens to be quiet while they are being preyed upon. And you can’t ask journalists to be quiet while this is happening, either.

          You just can’t. It’s a wrong target.

          In my opinion.


          • FistOfXenu

            I can’t speak for Sid, but actually I’d blame citizens and journalists for just the opposite. We’re all still too quiet. Talking to ourselves doesn’t count unless it turns into talking to everybody else and getting them talking to the people that matter.

            For a whole load of years too many people been tippie-toeing around $cientology because they were afraid of being investigated or sued or fair gamed or god knows what. The smaller number of people that didn’t hide are a roll call of heroes, or they should be. Now that the boogyman is on his knees some more people are coming into the open at last. But there’s still a helluva lot to do to keep the boogyman from getting back up. Our congress people should know us by name as people they can trust to give them good info about the cult and as people that won’t let them ignore $cientology’s crimes any more. The FBI needs to know we’re the people giving them the chance to stop a pseudoreligious mafia. Local law enforcement should know us so well they’ll ignore a $cientology dead agent pack. The IRS should know us as the people who are going to keep the spotlight on the dirty deal they made with the cult, until they start telling the truth and making it right. The White House should know us as the people who won’t let up the president no matter what party he’s from until he kicks the appropriate asses into gear and gets $cientology investigated.

            Meanwhile the people who aren’t sure what to think or are afraid to think should be encouraged by us to find the cajones to look the problem square in the eye.

            Plenty of people are infuriated over the bank scandals and the market collapse. Some of that fury needs to be redirected at this pseudoreligious gang of interstate and international criminals that cost us millions in lost taxes and cost more than money can buy with their slavery and child slavery and immigration exploitation and all the rest of their crimes.

            A lot of us here, maybe even most of us here, are the ones making a lot of the noise. But we’re still too few. To the majority of people we still can look like a few cranks who need to get a life. Tony’s one of the noisy heroes I was talking about, he’s been since before it was cool or safe. Tony and people like him are helping to inform that majority but he can’t do it alone. We need to lobby seriously and get people to join us lobbying. When politicians ask themselves if they can afford to ignore us at election time, they’ll start dealing with $cientology.

      • FistOfXenu

        I almost agree with you Alanzo. But I’d say it this way. The government SHOULD have to deal with an outcry from citizens for doing nothing effective about $cientology since 1979. The trouble is, where’s the outcry? The number of us making a real outcry is way too few to even make them think twice and the outcry we do make never reaches them. We aren’t even a decent sized voting block enough to scare a few congressmen into listening to us.

        We’ve all got opinions and we all know the cliche about opinions, but anyway here’s mine. Like I said, there’s a VERY small group of us making an outcry. We aren’t a blip on their radar. Then there’s some more people on our side, but the government can find excuses to ignore them (like “they do illegal things” or whatever) so the government doesn’t count them alongside us. And then there’s a whole load of people who say “tut tut tut somebody should stop them” every time they hear about $cientology’s crimes. And then they go back to drinking their coffee. But they won’t lift a finger. We need those people making this outcry too. And then there’s a whole load more who’ve decided to stay ignorant as pigshit about anything to do with $cientology. And we really need them making the outcry. And at the end of all that the people making an outcry that the government might hear is still just a VERY small group.

        Against us there’s all the cultists and all the people on cult payrolls and all the cult apologists and they’re happy to make a huge outcry and pretend this is about religious freedom. Naturally that’s who the government are listening to and until we unite all the others and make ourselves heard that’s the way it’ll stay.

        So forgive me Alanzo and everybody else who thinks this investigation means $cientology is out of time. If it somehow works out I’ll be there dancing on its grave with everybody else. But I really think we gotta do better if we don’t want to see this investigation vanish down the crapper with all the others. Outrage isn’t an outcry until they can’t ignore us.

    • piper

      Some truth to it. Kinda’ ruins the element of surprise and helps ’em do their battle plan. But, at the same time, it creates massive field knowledge and communication which opens up lots of re-enforcement and support, new evidence and new channels.

  • JustCallMeMary

    Well, there’s enough evidence in visa applications submitted by church attorneys to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security’s Division of U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services to prove they have not only trafficked children but they have committed fraud. Here’s a summary of Scientology Religious Worker Visa application / petition decisions from 2002 thru 2010 It is a work in progress and well worth reading. This webpage is a collection of information and links related to the research subject of visa applications (and appeals) and the
    Church of Scientology.

    “Passport and visa fraud are federal felonies. Penalties are: 10 years (for a first offense if not tied to terrorism or drug trafficking), 15 years for fraud with other criminal links, 20 years for fraud related to drug trafficking, 25 years for fraud related to international terrorism.”

    Lots of other important dox here. ” The website is a collection of information and links related to research into the Church of Scientology. This website has no connection whatsoever with the
    Church of Scientology or any of its affiliates or subsidiaries. This website is published for educational purposes and journalistic interests.”

    • Way to go, Mary.

    • DeElizabethan

      Thank you so much Mary, Info I had not seen before, plus other links provided which are so beneficial to my research. Particularly the Clearwater info concerning the years I had my back turned on the organization while living here and I’m still trying to catch up.

      • JustCallMeMary

        You’re welcome, DeElizabethan. Glad to be of help. 🙂

    • piper

      links are broken on the cw site; Gabe Cavares youtube link gets a 404 error, and “contact us” gets a “no e-mail address attached” when you try to send a note to the cw site

      • Mary_McConnell

        Sorry but I have no idea what you are referring to. My post was about something completely different. Perhaps you were meaning to reply to another comment here?
        Mary McConnell aka JustCallMeMary

  • There is a great recent movie starring Rachel Weisz called “The Whistleblower” that clearly lays out the legal difficulties in prosecuting this type of case. In fact, those legal difficulties form the dramatic barriers in the story itself. Thus, the movie is *all about* how hard it is to gather witnesses, build a case, and gain a conviction for this type of crime.

    This is something that the criminals who operate in this area know all about.

    Here is the movie’s entry on imdb dot com:

    I do not know why the government would be pursuing this avenue. It seems to me that there would be so many other ways that would be easier to gain a criminal conviction.

    But what do I know?

    My prosecutorial expertise comes from watching movies on how to criminally prosecute the Church of Scientology.

    It’s not much.

    But it’s not nothing.

    So you should still fear me.


    • Vistaril

      The most obvious legal remedy to Scientology is to view it as an on-going organised criminal conspiracy to defraud. The first act of fraud was in 1950 when L Ron Hubbard said he used Dianetics to cure war injuries. Today, a switched on investigator could consider things like David Miscavige’s inurement in light of the nondistribution constraint. The fund raising for the super powers building has got be dodgy – just how long has that being going on and how much has been raised? The Narconon scam is another avenue, Scientology knows it doesn’t work, knows the success rate is falsified, and still does things like illegally offer “medical detox” when it has no licence to do so.

      Added bonus: the statute of limitations doesn’t apply to conspiracy.

  • Ivan Mapother

    Between the difficulty in prosecuting human trafficking cases and the government’s track record with religious cults, think Waco or Yearning for Zion, I can see this going nowhere. If I was in the Justice Department, I would take a play from the OSA playbook and initiate a noisy investigation to get Slappy Miscavige all hot and bothered. His first response would be to hit-up the IAS members for more donations. More money from fewer people will do more to weaken the cult than any government prosecution. Let them die from the inside and not at taxpayer expense.

    • moxon moxoff

      This is an interesting strategy to think about. What kind of noisy investigation did you have in mind? And how to deal with the inevitable cries of religious persecution?

      • ermergersh

        Abuse which is conducted by a member, members, or by the religious authority or body of a religion or faith is not immune to prosecution of the law. Please refer to: The Limitation of Religious Liberty, Fordham Law Review, Volume 18/Issue 2, Article 3, 1949, by Chester J. Antieau /

        Individuals have a freedom of conscience, but may not harm others. A religious institution may not infringe upon the rights of others by acting in a morally reprehensible way which violates anyone else’s personal freedoms.

        • Thank you.

          • ermergersh

            You’re welcome, Alanzo. I hope the info was helpful.

        • moxon moxoff

          Thanks for the link. My question was more around managing the PR angle. That has been one of the challenges in prosecuting the church or church members for their actions, or even investigating the church. The first thing the church does is scream about being persecuted and that tends to play quite well for them in the media because the public doesn’t have all the facts or always understand the nuances.

          That being said, I think I can answer my own question. The Narconon deaths would provide a good angle for cracking the lid off this thing. Narconon is a drug rehab place that is not supposed to have an affiliation with the church and at first the Narconon reps tried to hide the affiliation. However, they got caught in their own lies. Not nearly enough has been reported on this yet, but if criminal charges are brought or licenses are revoked, it would provide an opportunity to show the connection between the treatment program and the church’s attempt to use it as a recruitment tool. It will be very hard for them to cry “religious persecution” in that case, I think.

          • ermergersh

            I’m sorry for not answering your question with a succinct answer earlier, mm. I amended it, but it is hardly succinct. You’re a smart cookie, though, and are quite adept at handling those pesky Sci-Bots and their crocodile tears, since you are, and have, moxy!

            • moxon moxoff


              your post would be perfect to cut and paste into a journalistic piece, as a rebuttal to claims of religious persecution. it is exactly as you’ve stated–they are not being investigated or arrested because they are scientologists, but because they commit crimes. that is the point that journalists would need to clearly make to help the public understand that there are no first amendment issues here, no religious freedom practice issues, no persecution. just prosecution–for crimes. nobody is above the law. except politicians, celebrities, athletes and rich people. lol 🙂

    • What would Sun Tzu do?

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Sun Tzu would step back and observe the enemy. Contemplate.
        And then come at the enemy from the direction of behind the sun, so that the sun was in the eyes of the enemy…blinding him to what was about to become his new reality.

      • sugarplumfairy

        “feign disorder and crush him..”

        • Heh. A true student.


          • sugarplumfairy

            Bow in return, sir..

      • Foster their arrogance to encourage a false sense of confidence and an erroneous perception of the weakness of their enemies. Wait for them to relax in the hubris of their imagined superiority…and POUNCE.

  • Tony,

    What would be good, is to have a phone number, so that anyone defecting from the Sea Org, today, right now, there will be recurring situations in the Sea Org, that cause the staff to abuse the young people, so they can call the Homeland Security officials who are investigating, and who need raw fresh on the ground info from firsthand participants who are fed up with the on the ground abuse that is going on.

    Like, Darth Xander and others who protest in Clearwater, video’ing the kids get on and off the the buses at the
    Clearwater Building, going into chow, there are tons of video of the kids, getting onto and off those buses.

    Having phone numbers for the Homeland Security investigators, on protest signs, so the adults over those kids, if those adults, who periodically are apalled at the conditions, but have NO outside authorities to go to.

    It doesn’t happen every day, and would be sporadic, that is standing there with protest signs with the Homeland Security Office’s phone number of the interested Human Trafficing investigators, but believe me, on the other side, I know, from my own experience, there were moments when I gladly would have jumped at the change to blow and be a whistleblower, had someone been driving by the RPF with a sign saying “FBI Investigators into RPF and Human Trafficing, help phone number XXX-XXX-XXXX” believe me, I’d have escaped and called.

    It’s been a long time getting to this point, and if we had phone numbers, to give to the potential members that we know, from decades of experience, that had we seen, even sporadically, spur of the moment, just out of the blue, I mean I have told many many protestors what to say, where to go and what to say, when there are those tiny windows of moments when the outside world CAN (via protestors standing at the right place, right moment), we on the outside CAN get the message to those on the inside, and a well placed protest sign with the Homeland Security phone number, my god!

    I’ve have blown and gone to the phone, just for seeing that, I can tell you!

    Chuck Beatty
    ex RPFer, 1996-2003, and also 3 months on the RPF in 1989 (Feb to May).

    This is HUGE in terms of recent official interest, and please, let’s publicly share the phone numbers, so fresh defectors can re-ignite the officials’ interest!

    • sugarplumfairy

      Chuck.. After reading a comment below about video of children being used as laborers, taken in 1998 at a Lisa McPherson protest, I went on a search to see if I could find it online.. Instead, I found your story on lermanet.. jeeeez.. I’m soooo glad you’re out.. And thanks for being so informative and passionate about exposing co$..

  • dagobarbz

    They should go to LA and check out the tunnels under Big Blue. Reportedly there are people down there who haven’t seen the light of day for years.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      No Shit! What kind of thought stopping process makes you be able to endure that crap?
      I understand the truth of it….but it still makes me crazy.
      My god I want a raid of INT so bad I can TASTE it.!!!

      • BuryTheNuts2

        Or maybe that is the glass of Port I had for dessert at dinner????

      • dagobarbz

        Some people fantasize about sex with celebrities.
        I fantasize about being at Gold Base when the Feeb vans and busses and helicopters arrive.

        • BuryTheNuts2

          PFFFFTTT…no shit…me too!
          Of course I also fantasize about sex with ..well…not celebrities…but like…OK, just sex with anyone who trips my trigger?
          But then, I just like the shit…which means it is time to go attack the future ex-husband.
          Why the hell not?
          See ya on the flip side peeps~!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Well damn it…. That didn’t work out as planned!
            Might as well just Moon bat as “he” calls it.

        • sugarplumfairy

          I fantasize about lrh.. roasting on a spit in hell..

          • dagobarbz

            Great…now I’m all hungry!

            • sugarplumfairy

              Lol.. I’ll never be THAT hungry..

          • 0tessa

            I prefer cruxifiction.

  • One thing the federal government can do right now is spot check the immigrants passports. We dam well
    the cult is bringing in lots of free labor from other countries and holds the passports. I would love to see an immigrant explain they need to go get it from the COS safe where it is kept.

  • In 1998 at the Lisa McPherson memorial Protest we photographed and video taped child slave labor building what looked to be scaffolding for a December event, they were thin to the point of emaciation and they were sad, constantly looking down, they were in misery. They were little kids, 7 years old or so up to about 13 or 14. Dirty, ragged, and hungry and trying to piece together long, heavy pipes. ZERO adult supervision, not an adult in sight.

    • BuryTheNuts2

      That is so GodDamn sad it is unreal!

    • sugarplumfairy

      soooo disturbing.. I know I’ve seen the Australian exposés of co$’ child labor violations, but nothing here..

    • California

      Can you post this video and those photographs on YouTube or here? Please?

  • Trustmeonthis

    Ugh. The headline looked so promising!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Hey TMOT…It still may be a promising headline.
    Don’t hate over my HT remark….Perhaps is was a bit..well…UNPC.

    I still have some hope for this news…
    lets enjoy it..
    At least someone is still watching..well…besides US.

  • DeElizabethan

    Good news. Sounds exciting and positive, but looks like a delay on the popcorn. Hope to hear more soon.

  • 1subgenius

    The authorities at all levels have had enough evidence of much wrong-doing on a silver platter for years.

  • mook

    Tiziano Luigi interviewed in the Hollywood Reporter. Ronbots in the comments section.

    I wonder who he’s talking about re: Kirstie
    “When I came out of the church, she called and wanted to know what the hell was going on and I wanted to meet with her. But others got to her before me, so I couldn’t even reach her after that.” Others, meaning OSA?

    • BuryTheNuts2

      I could never, ever become a Scientologist simply because of disconnection.
      Everyone has had toxic or sociopathic people in their lives at one time or another that you purposefully decide to shun for your own well being. But man oh man I love my friends and family. And I find it hard to believe that this single thing does not snap more Scion’s out of that vacuous trance they lock themselves into.
      I can’t imagine anything or anyone telling me I could no longer talk to my best friend and them convincing me that it would somehow be the right thing to do.

  • BuryTheNuts2

    From Polaris Project. You would think Debt Coercion would apply to a myriad of various things related to the cadet and sea org. “One would think”!

    The definition of debt coercion used in these model provisions is closely linked to the concept of debt bondage, which is defined under federal law as “the status or condition of a debtor arising from a pledge by the debtor of his or her personal services or those of a person under his or her control as a security for debt, if the value of those services as reasonably assessed is not applied toward the liquidation of the debt or the length and nature of those services are not respectively limited and defined.”
    The term debt coercion as used here differs from the federal debt bondage in two ways: one of substance and one of form.
    First, the definition incorporates but also expands upon the federal law’s recognition of situations in which a debt becomes coercive. The definition used here, just like the federal definition, recognizes situations in which the value of services provided is not applied toward debt liquidation, or where the length and nature of the services are not limited and defined. These situations focus on a false valuation of services provided by the victim toward paying off the debt. These model provisions are then expanded also to cover the common situation in which there is a false valuation of the items provided by the trafficker to the victim, which are added to the alleged debt principal. This takes care of the so-called “company store” situation. In addition to any smuggling debt, victims commonly must accept housing, transportation, food and even toiletry items from their traffickers. The perpetrators charge exorbitant rates that are added to the debt principal in order to prevent the victim from being able to pay off the debt. Polaris Project has noted this tactic being used in particular within commercial front “massage parlor” networks engaged in sex trafficking in the United States, but it may be used effectively by other human traffickers as well.
    Second, the term “coercion” has been used rather than bondage to reflect the fact that this concept is one of the coercive means used to carry out human trafficking rather than a standalone crime.
    First, the definition incorporates but also expands upon the federal law’s recognition of situations in which a debt becomes coercive. The definition used here, just like the federal definition, recognizes situations in which the value of services provided is not applied toward debt liquidation, or where the length and nature of the services are not limited and defined. These situations focus on a false valuation of services provided by the victim toward paying off the debt. These model provisions are then expanded also to cover the common situation in which there is a false valuation of the items provided by the trafficker to the victim, which are added to the alleged debt principal. This takes care of the so-called “company store” situation. In addition to any smuggling debt, victims commonly must accept housing, transportation, food and even toiletry items from their traffickers. The perpetrators charge exorbitant rates that are added to the debt principal in order to prevent the victim from being able to pay off the debt. Polaris Project has noted this tactic being used in particular within commercial front “massage parlor” networks engaged in sex trafficking in the United States, but it may be used effectively by other human traffickers as well.
    Second, the term “coercion” has been used rather than
    bondage to reflect the fact that this concept is one of the coercive means used to carry out human trafficking rather than a standalone crime. Thus, debt coercion is incorporated into the human trafficking criminal definitions, which 3
    are composed of three distinct elements including:
    1) an action, such as recruiting or transporting;
    2) a means, such as violence, deception,
    debt coercion or various other forms of coercion; and
    3) a purpose, including labor, services or commercial sex.
    Debt bondage
    is defined under federal law and within the DOJ

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    Damn, fiddle-sticks! This cult can hide behind the First Amendment and get away with modern-day slavery and torture. The only way any investigation to stick is if by any miracle their 1993 ‘reiligious’ status were to be revolked. Fat chance in that. Thanks Bill Clinton, you lame-brain-womanizing-liberal-skunk, for giving the cult what they needed to continue to enslave people.

  • I don’t think the Headlys lawsuit stood a chance – unless they could prove they were unlawfully confined. As long as they were adults who had entered into a consensual relationship with the ‘Church,’ there was no viable tort. The reality is that they tolerated all that crap. Even the monitoring of their communications – if the Church could prove that the Headlys voluntarily stayed on AFTER they became aware their communications were being monitored, then it’s tough to prove they were really all that worked up about it. I don’t have much sympathy for adults who get involved with Scientology. It’s not like the information wasn’t there. I grew up hearing the horror stories, and I’m in my fifties. I understood they were looney-tunes forty years ago.

  • There are three reasons why both the FBI and DHS might have lost interest in pursuing the Church of Scientology for human trafficking crimes. First, the church leaders might be very good at covering up their foul deeds. Second, both of the federal agencies might have been bought off. Third, the church might be innocent.

    However, there is one place where human trafficking, perhaps primarily for sex-slavery, definitely does occur. Israel. The Jerusalem Post (“A Modern Form of Slavery,” 13 January 1998) has published accounts of sex-slavery within Israel, and what it admits to is probably just the visible tip of an slave-prostitution iceberg. The United States could do much more to end human slavery if it would simply put economic sanctions on Israel until the Israeli government had put an end to all human trafficking and human slavery, including that perpetrated by its citizens and including that occurring within its borders.

  • Guest

    U.s Dept. of Homeland Security is going to bust this cult? One cult is gunna bust another? Just listen to those words, Dept. of Homeland Security, and think Scientology.

  • Doug

    The U.S. Dept. of Homeland Security is going to bust Scientology? One cult is gunna bust another? Just listen to those words: Dept. of Homeland Security – think Scientology, think Orwell, do a little homework, then have a good chuckle.