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Jon Atack visits an org — ALSO: The richest Scientologist gets even richer!

Jon_AtackJon Atack is the author of A Piece of Blue Sky, one of the very best books on L. Ron Hubbard and Scientology. He has a new edition of the book for sale, and for more than a year on Saturdays he helped us sift through the legends, myths, and contested facts about Scientology that tend to get hashed and rehashed in books, articles, and especially on the Internet. He was kind enough to send us a new post.

Jon sent us just a short anecdote this time, which only whets our appetite for more. But we know he’s a busy man and has a lot going on that will come to fruition later this year. We’ll take what we can get. Tell it, Jon…

JON: In 1993, I was in Chicago, working on a documentary project with Carlos Cornier. The documentary did not see the light of day, though some of my footage went into an A&E piece, which also featured David Miscavige. We had done a week of filming in England. Now Carlos wanted to add some American colour.

We rolled up in front of the Bahá’í temple, because Carlos thought it would make a wonderful backdrop. A representative of the faith quickly shooed us off the property, so, rather than a shot of their pristine gardens, we included the whole building, by filming on the street. I well remember the puzzled looks of the faithful, as I extemporized about the Waco Siege, which was unraveling in Texas.

Carlos wanted some frames of me in front of the Chicago Org. It was almost ten years since I’d set foot in a Scientology establishment, but Carlos insisted that all I had to do was chat into a lapel mike while browsing the volcano book dump in the store window.

Carlos and his co-director set up their tripod across the street, and I mumbled into the microphone. Two burly chaps rushed out of the Org and across the street, but I was distracted, because at that very moment, a voice cooed, “Would you like to come inside?”

Now, it really had not been my intention, but suddenly it felt like the rightest thing in the world to do, so I crossed the threshold into the lair of the Antichrist (as Hubbard styled himself in the unabridged OT 8). The receptionist cheerily asked if I knew anything about Scientology. “Yes, I’m OT 5,” I replied, quite as cheerily. This excited her, so she yelled out, “Hey, everybody, there’s an OT 5 in the Org!”

The reception filled up, in a matter of moments. “When are you going to Florida, for OT 6?” the receptionist asked, innocently.

“I’m not,” I replied. “Because it is a scam.” The assembly looked sheepishly at the floor, all pretense at “confront” gone. They were confused and had no one to tell them what they should self-determinedly do. It was at that moment that I realized that the two burly guys were the OSA crew, so while they were busy chasing the camera down the street, there was no one to “bring order” in the Org. I smiled as politely as I could, and shook my head at the frozen pack of followers. I haven’t been invited into an Org since. Which is probably just as well.

 
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Bob_DugganThe richest Scientologist in the world gets even richer

Several of our readers pointed us in the direction of a story in the financial pages this week. Pharmacyclics, which has made a fortune from a cancer drug that has exceeded expectations, was sold for a cool $21 billion.

And that means its owner, Robert Duggan, the richest Scientologist in the world, is now even richer.

In October, we told you a strange, perplexing tale about Duggan and his wife Trish and their many adopted children. When we wrote that story, Forbes ranked Bob as the world’s 1,164th richest person, worth about $1.5 billion.

Yesterday, Forbes ranked him as the 499th richest person, worth about $3.5 billion.

That’s quite a jump. And you know there’s no one happier than Scientology leader David Miscavige. Our most recent estimate is that Duggan has given Scientology’s IAS account about $60 million — and that’s not counting the building funds and other Scientology causes he’s benefited.

You can bet that Miscavige has some Sea Org worker up late going through new names for big trophies he’s going to give Duggan as he hands over more of that cheddar.

Titanium Colossal Maximus Meritorius? With Honors?

 
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Lawrence Wright on Bill Maher’s HBO show

We just love how cool and calm Larry is — he’s always smooth as butter. And what a great setup for the movie opening in a week…

 

 
Meanwhile, in Canada…

 
Earlier in the evening, your proprietor spent a few minutes with Gil Gross at Talk 910 in San Francisco…

 

 
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Shelly like you’ve never seen her

In 2013, we visited Claudio and Renata Lugli in their home in Brescia, Italy. The former Church of Scientology members had been longtime tailors to David and Shelly Miscavige over many years before they, like so many others, became disaffected and left the organization. Because they had worked so closely with the Miscaviges, the Luglis had some amazing photographs of them. We brought back quite a few of Shelly, which we used in stories about her last year. Now, Renata has posted another photo of Shelly in her Sea Org uniform, relaxing with Claudio. What a great shot! We knew you’d want to see it.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

Thirty years of looking up the word ‘the’ in the dictionary in Los Angeles! Woo-hoo!

 
DelphiLA2

 
These kids in an unnamed Latin American school look thrilled to learn about Scientology’s anti-drug program, don’t they?

 
DrugFreeLatinAm

 
We received this yesterday but forgot to put up this morning. Now we can see the news has hit ESMB and elsewhere — the entire Bank of Clearwater building has been tented for fumigation. We have a feeling, though, that the wrong pests are being chased away!

 
BCTented

 
Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 7, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Tony Ortega

    New photo added to the post

    • InClearwater

      That is one big-ass tent.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Feeling better Tony?

  • Juicer77

    What part of the Co$ is in the Bank Building being de-bugged before the big birthday bash?

  • anoni81b4u

    Is the building being fumigated a scientology owned building? (if yes, what is it?)
    Or does scientology use or rent part of it ?
    Caption says its a bank building, so I am confused

    • Tony Ortega

      The Clearwater Bank building was one of the first two locations Scientology bought surreptitiously in 1975 when they invaded the town under the name “United Churches of Florida.” (The other was the Fort Harrison Hotel.) It has been used in various ways by Scientology — it contained a mess hall for Sea Org workers, and was a key distribution point for them. Marty Rathbun and Mike Rinder spent much of 1996 to 2000 in the Clearwater Bank building, strategizing the Lisa McPherson defense for David Miscavige. Since the opening of the Super Power building, however, much of what went on there has been moved to other locations. My guess is that they’re preparing for a massive renovation of it or, who knows, maybe even a sale.

      • chukicita

        It really wouldn’t surprise me that the historic building needed a fumi. This *is* Florida and it’s the season for that. The weird part (with Scn, there’s always a weird part) is the all-black tentage. Typically they’re striped in bold colors (in part to let folks know there’s fumigation going on) and almost always some kind of sign indicating who has been contracted to do the work. Maybe it’s on another side, but I’ve never seen an all-black tent.

        • HillieOnTheBeach

          Just wondering if anyone can see a fumigating tent without triggering the Breaking Bad theme.

        • Melissa

          you are right about the color of the tent…..if the scientologists own the building, im sure they bare using RPFers as cheap labor…..with sub=par materials.

          • chukicita

            Well, if they’re fumigating they’re supposed to have a sign up saying what chemical they’re using and to keep out. Because the building adjoins public areas (sidewalk) ther should be someone guarding and making sure people stay out.

            What I’m wondering is — if they’re fumigating — why a brick office structure has rats or bugs.

      • ze moo

        Who would buy a building in the heart of clam town? If it does become a sale, some clam owned business may be the buyer. I can see that, ‘Off Duty’ Sea bOrg being make to telemarket some sham-wows and Vegamatics. Just another Thursday 2pm stat to get in shape. Of course, that means that the building would go on the tax rolls.

        • Ben Franklin

          Could be bed bugs.

      • romanesco

        Makes me wonder how many Sea Org workers got roaches in their food.

        • flexible

          Don’t even talk to me about roaches. Try sleeping on the top bunk in the women’s dorm on the Apollo.. with bare pipes 6 inches over your head.. that were the main “highway” for roaches.. one had to just forget about them and go to sleep hoping none would fall into one’s hair, or mouth. Shudder

          • Allie

            Sorry you had to live under those conditions. I would have been majorly freaked out. I hate cockroaches.

  • Sidney18511

    Duggan. Who would let anyone convince them to get rid of a couple of their children because their PTS?

    The man is scum.

    • Scummy scum.

      • ze moo

        He besmirches the good name of scum.

    • Melissa

      if anyone knows about DM’s criminal behavior….it is Duggan. Flat out.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Ghost of Joan Crawford.

  • NOLAGirl

    Sooo jealous! (F5)

  • Pierrot

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    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
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    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    (F5, …) for Ranger by El Chief enhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15392179877/in/set-72157642802079293

  • MaxSpaceman

    Leader of the cherch
    Pope Ecclesiacticus
    Speak in public? Not!

    In support of Pan’s ‘__________’ (continuous examples) speaks in public, Does David Miscavige?

    • Melissa

      DM would speak in public, but they don’t make podiums that small in the real world………

      • Missionary Kid

        THAT’S where I first saw Miscavige! Now I know! He was in the Small World ride at Disneyland!

        • I doubt it, you must be at least this tall to ride the ride . . .

          • Todd Tomorrow

            HAHa, I had a t-shirt that said that.

          • Missionary Kid

            He wasn’t on the ride. He played one of the children.

  • Straight Diet of Kerbango

    What would a clay demo of the word ‘the’ look like?

    • Billy Bob

      Three blobs, arrow pointing to one
      Did I win?

      • Straight Diet of Kerbango

        That’s actually pretty good. I feel I have a much better understanding (greater mass), of the concept.

        • Billy Bob

          I owe it all to the training I have received from the SPs here in the bunker.
          Three cheers for those that would make us free.

      • Straight Diet of Kerbango

        I think I will turn this into a recurring game. Next clay demo word will be ‘as.’

        • Melissa

          excuse me….I just fell asleep in my lump of clay…..where was I? “as”………zzzzzzzzz…….zzzzzzz

        • Todd Tomorrow

          And, but and or, they’ll get you very far.”

    • Melissa

      that’s funny….but children subjected to the hubbard tech have to do exactly that……..and they grow up unable to operate in the real world

      • Billy Bob

        I have noticed a lack of Strunk & White in Co$ dox posted here.

      • Straight Diet of Kerbango

        On the bright side, they will yawn less than the average Joe.

        • Missionary Kid

          As usual, co$ tries to suppress perfectly natural functions. Yawning, loving, masturbating, thinking, …

          • Todd Tomorrow

            Do you have to report nocturnal emissions I wonder?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Like Catholic school kids who can “hold it” a looooooong time before going to the bathroom???

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Some do prevail like Zoe and Astra Woodcraft. The best story of growing up in the cult on, youtube.

  • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

    Public Announcement From the Board of Directors, Religious Technology Center

    We in RTC wish to announce that the Church and has been sold to Bob Duggan for an undisclosed sum.

    The applied religious technology is now called Dugganology.

    It is hoped that new COB Bob Duggan does with Dugganology what he did with the Big Pharma company he just sold.

    The out ethics Sea Org member who ran the former organization has been placed on a special project for an indefinite period of time.

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      Would this be some sort of rehabilitation project, by any chance?

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        The final order of the IJC before he himself was placed on a special project is binding and irrevocable:

        “The out ethics Sea Org member who ran the former organization has been adjudicated as being beyond any hope of rehabilitation this lifetime. He is therefore ordered locked in the electronic mountain prison called Twin Peaks.”

        “Neither a Comm Ev nor Arbitration is available to this out ethics Sea Org member.”

        • NOLAGirl

          Please inform this out-ethics Sea Org member that his first task in his new accommodations is cleaning the bathroom floor with his tongue.

          This order comes straight from Karma herself. ; )

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I imagine karma has both parts.

        • ze moo

          At least Shelly will get to see him.

          • Andrew Robertson

            Following the astounding news earlier this week that the Pope was not a Catholic, the Church has issued a further press release stating that Pope Francis remained happily married.

            Responding to concern expressed by some journalists that she has not been seen for the last nine years, a spokesman for the Pontifical Swiss Guard of the Holy See said that he had contacted Mrs Pope and she was quite happy working in a secluded office in the crypts below the Vatican on her research paper ‘Papal Domestic Life from Saint Peter to the Present Day’.

            Sister Karin Pouw from the Church’s Ecclesiastical Press Office said she hoped this would stop any further unwarranted speculation about the whereabouts of Mrs Pope.

            Andrew

    • Melissa

      can I send a knowledge report through the RTC website about how “out ethics” DM is?

      • anoni81b4u

        I already did .. lol no shit .. I did

        • Melissa

          did they come by and kidnap your pets? how could the anons not have d=dosd that…

        • Melissa

          it is a website just BEGGING to be abused by /b/ with all of their creative lulzy glory

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Please deposit all KR’s on the out ethics Sea Org member who ran the former organization in the big pile of KR’s already written about this person. The pile is out back behind the Fresno Ideal Org next to the cow pasture:

        http://i1284.photobucket.com/albums/a563/OTVIIIisGrrr8/stacks-of-paper_zpsxnbjkpm4.jpg

        • Melissa

          thank you OTVIIIisGrrr8! at least it wont end up in the Great Pacific Garbage Float….

        • Billy Bob

          Sources pointed to a synergistic relationship between the new acquisition and another Duggan property, UTR Waste Mgmt. and Recycling. UTR Waste has ramped up operations in anticipation.

  • RBE

    Achievement unlocked (refresh)

    • Captain MustSavage

      Fist bump.

    • NOLAGirl

      I want to follow you too. Do we already follow each other? I don’t know your acct name, at least I don’t think I do. 🙂

      • RBE

        Yeah, we follow each other already 😉

      • Eclipse-girl

        Secret buddies who don’t know who they are.
        That makes me smile

    • Frodis73

      Way freaking cool!!

  • Sid

    I didn’t see a tent on Wednesday so either this was put up fast after that or it is down now. You can see the corner of the bank building on the left side of my Clearwater photo yesterday. No tent.

    • Melissa

      they are pretty quick with the testing process around here…..

    • Melissa

      love the “darth vedar” tent though…..THOSES WACKY SCIENTOLOGISTS!!!WACKA WACKA WACKA!

      • ScnMonkeyNuts

        … it is the Evil Clampire, after all 🙂

        • Melissa

          I can hear the heavy Vadar breathing all the way hear in tampa….

          • ScnMonkeyNuts
            • Melissa

              The ultimate battle DV vs. DM……DV will crush him and send him to the giant garbage compactor…

            • Super Power Wogsy

              BadASS!!!! I am so stoked about the new stars movie “The Force Awakens”. ok back to your regular scheduled programming Scientology. OT versus The Dark Side. haha! Emeter cans versus the Laser

            • ScnMonkeyNuts

              Me too, can’t wait for it!

              Now hand me that laser, and point out the Super–duper Ultra–spiffy Quantum E–meters (Mk VIII) to waste, and you will hear a happy Monkey at play 🙂

      • MaxSpaceman

        Fumigate the Bank!
        Get rid of Body Thetans!!
        Where will ‘they’ all go ?

  • Sherbet

    Not sure if anyone said this earlier: The Latin American classroom holding those thrilled-looking students? There’s a Christian picture hanging in the back of the room. Open your eyes, Catholic church. Read what scientology really is.

    • HillieOnTheBeach

      For this crowd, I think all the Catholic church had to do was designate someone to hold the recycling bin at the exit.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      There are Stations of the Cross hanging on the side walls. It’s a chapel.

      • Sherbet

        You’re right. I hadn’t noticed.

  • madame duran

    When the Clearwater City Council had plans to “revitalize” or “repopulate” the downtown area, the proliferation of pests is not what they had in mind, I don’t think.

    • Allie

      Which kind? the critter kind or the Scion kind of pests?

  • MaxSpaceman

    As the March 13 “Going Clear” Motion Picture Theatrical Release 2015 approaches, thinking– What is a Scientologist ?

    Can’t speak about case
    Can’t watch any entheta
    Can’t hear critics’ points

    Sad. Buggers aren’t more able, more free. They are less able, less free.

    • Super Power Wogsy

      exactly!

  • valshifter

    Why HBO Canada backs down and not broadcast the Bill Maher interview with Lawrence Right? they will show the movie right? does scientology has anything to do with this, wow!, looks like an underhanded move going on there. I just hope they don’t back down and not show the documentary at the end. wow, someone has been scared straight at HBO Canada. what is going on?

    • Richard Grant

      Lawrence Wright. The man deserves the respect of having his name spelled properly.

      • Robert Eckert

        That’s wright.

        • Panopea Abrupta

          Two wogs don’t make a wright.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          You’re goddamn right!

  • valshifter

    Duggan, I thought scientology has nothing to do with Big Pharma, yeah right, two faces cult.

    • Allie

      Hypocrites much?

  • Melissa

    I wonder if the “antidrug” movement/narcanon in certain latin American countries will have to deal with the Cartels….many of the treatment centers there do….

    • Frodis73

      Man, that would be *awesome* if the cartels went after the church! LOL!

      • Melissa

        it is a fact of life down there…..there is no way around it. the cartels don’t interfere with treatment centers down there…they just employ many who work there. i do some volunteer work (in the medical field) in south texas…..so see this stuff happen.

  • stillgrace2

    Do they know how crazy and vindictive they look doing this? What a crack-up!
    I think anyone googling “Mike Rinder” is going to look at the tension between the “ad” and the first hit and think: “I think I’ll tune in and watch this one. It looks good.” HBO must be over the moon. (F5)

    • ze moo

      Stupid is as stupid does.

    • Melissa

      i still cant get over the bird house camera….how did he find that thing?

      • Juicer77

        He was head of OSA (the dirty tricks department) for years. He knows exactly what the techniques are.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Doesn’t everyone have a camera in their birdhouse. Mine points inwards to see the cute little baby birds get fed by Mama.

  • valshifter

    “These kids in an unnamed Latin American school” they feel something FISHI with that booklet, and it looks like a catholic school too, seems like a picture of a saint in the wall back there, DOUBLE betrayal coming and they feel it, they will become RAW meet for scientology labor.

    • Melissa

      the expressions on their faces…..”wtf is this bullshit?” …….

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      That is a chapel. There are Stations of the Cross on the wall, and the seating appears to be pews. Probably kneelers attached. Over the man’s shoulder is what appears to be a portable sacristy. The only false note is that there is no crucifix over the door.

    • Baby

      Heading to bed..
      Lush I would miss you terribly if you stopped posting. I love your blog..I know you and Tony have a history. I don’t want to get in the middle of it.

      I just want to say also I thought he was pretty harsh with you yesterday, but you did push it.. Plus you know he doesn’t feel good and was a little testy. Love Baby.. Night..

    • Super Power Wogsy

      I second baby. i love your blog. if you stop yours, i will be forced to create one, and i promise it won’t be nearly as entertaining or pretty. : ) just saying.

    • outraged

      You know how I feel. :-}

      Great post!

      Didn’t finish yet, been long day, but the suspense is exciting.

      We all want the same thing anyway.

      The End Of the World For Miscavige.

      http://youtu.be/Z0GFRcFm-aY

    • Todd Tomorrow

      We love you Lush!

      • Super Power Wogsy

        Si! Te Amo Mucho! : )

  • SNAFU

    Not everyone in that Delphi LA promo shot looks so excited. (refresh)

    • looks like a green clawed hand on their logo too….clawing for your funds from the depths of the murky bogs!

  • nottrue

    …Oh what fun…

    • Juicer77

      I sure hope someone gets us a report from inside 🙂

  • Sejanus

    I have watched the Bill Maher clip a couple times now and am still not sure how I feel about it.
    It is right off the bat super simplistic.
    I just think the laughter from the audience showed how people are ill informed they are on the topic as a whole.
    Maher uses some of the stupidest comparisons in his questioning and was coming off a bit dickish.
    Wright on the other hand was really a cool customer. He was swell spoken, relaxed and a gentleman while Maher went to the whole profanity barrel a few times for the yucks.

    I guess it bugs me that Maher is so flippant about it.
    He is no John Stewart who can balance humour with insight masterfully.

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      I agree, Wright was much more gentlemanly than Maher (who seems to just love the sound of his own voice, IMO)

      • Sejanus

        Exactly.
        An unfunny comedian narcissist is a heck of a combination…lol

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He is in a time crunch in those segments if you watch the show. I share his disdain for religion. Yes even those nice Krishna, people.

    • BlondesAreDumb

      I was disappointed in Maher as well. He does however know more about religions than most Hollywood folks and probably has less patience for reiterating what he already knows through Hubbards works. Kudos to Mr. Wright for staying on task to report and support what is factual and evidenced in his book. A clear difference between solid writers/authors and comics.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Maher’s a well-known asshole. You can see that no matter whom he’s interviewing, it’s really all about him and giving him a chance to score some good quips off whatever his guest is saying. I think Wright really showed a lot of class in keeping on topic as well as he did. Maher doesn’t really care about the victims of Scientology, but you can tell Wright does.

      • Sejanus

        At first I read that as “Mahers well known asshole”….lol

    • aegerprimo

      The way I look at it…. it is publicity for the HBO documentary, AND it is more bad press for the Co$. Bill Maher knows his audience and maybe knows they would not want to dive into the rabbit holes of the weird of $cientology, so instead in the interview it was presented as silly and insane and if people who watch his show take nothing more about this dangerous cult, then they have at least seen Bill Maher’s J&D about the cult which was NOT a J&D of Lawrence Wright.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Bill is always making jokes at the $cions expense.

  • Observer

    Remember Sante Kimes, the mother half of the mother/son grifter/murderer team who were all over the news a few years ago? For some reason she popped into my head, and I remembered that swindling and killing weren’t her only crimes.

    Sante Kimes was also running a slave trade, grabbing girls off the streets in Mexico and bringing them to her homes with promises of a big salary and a better life. Instead, she paid them nothing, kept them locked up, tortured them and made them work constantly. After several girls escaped and went to the police, Sante was sentenced to five years in prison.

    Sound familiar?

    The whole story is here, though a little out of date. Sante Kimes died in prison last May at 79.

    EDIT: Oops. http://www.biography.com/people/sante-kimes-235412

    • squirrel

      Yes! I read that book. Shocking to the concience. Mother and son?

      I’ve burned through dozens of true crime cases, but really none of them have the breadth and scope of Scientology’s long con. Maybe fewer cold corpses, but there a many ways of killing a person. All sad. All preventable. 🙁

      • Observer

        In my opinion Scientology is responsible for many, many deaths. Some we can point to, like Uwe Stuckenbrock and Kyle Brennan, but we’ll never know how many deaths can be laid at Hubbard’s and Miscavige’s feet.

        • squirrel

          Agreed. I also consider the concept of murder of the psyche. Some people die slowly after a mindfrig like Scientology. They may have a pulse, but they’re gone.

        • Todd Tomorrow

          So many are moved around and just never heard from again. With no relationships with their relatives and those from the outside world they are, I fear sent to the next life early. Shaun lonsdale, was in a fine mood and we know how they try to get people to kill themselves. Flo, Shelly’s mums death was another suspicious suicide. Shelly and BM laughed at her funeral. They’ve had bloods on their hands forever. Trying to kill mayor, Gabe. You’d think we wouldn’t have to subsidize their murdering people. Oh, and dehydrated Lisa.

        • Especially with the ‘ole “Scientology has a cure for that” line, encouraging people to not look for other health solutions.

      • Baby

        I am a True Crime nut case.. Fascinates the Hell out of me.. It actually started with Dr. Sam Sheppard and Jeffrey MacDonald.. ( That really had me addicted..) Fatal Vision of course by McGinniss..

        MacDonald could have had the World at his feet .. Dumb Ass.. Guilty, Guilty, Guilty.. Thank God for Kassab.. He wanted justice for his daughter.. What a Narcissistic Sociopath ( Miscavige)

    • Todd Tomorrow

      He was my buddy for awhile while Sante, was in prison for, at the time, the second person to be tried and convicted for slavery. I liked Kenny, but after his Dad’s death mom took over. I wrote him until he kept trying to get me to illegal things. She was very manipulative to say the least. Kenny is my avatar. His older 1/2 brother wrote a great book about the case but left out his involvement. All of us boys in the neighborhood were not allowed to hang out with him when Sante, got out. Funny you should mention that case.

      • beauty for ashes

        I was always curious about the significance of your avatar. Why do you use his pic to represent you?

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Funny, It was on my computer and didn’t require cropping. Kenny was a good guy and so was his Dad. His mom put it in his head that they were under attack all the time and having been kept home most of his life, he pulled a Patty Hearst and cooperated with his captor. He gave me my first Cuban cigar and I threw up all over their garage. Isolation by a sociopath who tells him constantly they are under attack ring a bell. He grew up in the mess. Actually, told me he wanted a normal family like mine. Which was far from normal! He could have been fine if she did the time she should of for the slavery charge.

          • beauty for ashes

            What a sad story. So complicated. Its like a cult of three instead of a family.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              His mom would pay kids to come to his birthdays since he was home schooled until she went to prison.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            it scares me. what was your avi before that?

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Always been the same.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              .oh.

          • Baby

            I have always been fascinated by Sante and Kenny.. I really did Like his brother’s book..

            Todd.. the whole incest thing and Kenny sleeping in her bed.. do you know anything about that? I know it was a rumor at one time.. I know toward the end they were just evil people with Sante’ doing the bidding..

            • Todd Tomorrow

              No, I just don’t believe that. They traveled a great deal and when you do you share beds depending where you are. Kenny liked whores and was afraid of girls. Sante was over bearing for sure but I highly doubt that ever happened. Even his brother said that was BS. She liked to be flattered all the time almost demanding it. My mom said if you didn’t mention her ring she’d tell you all about it. I think the press made that up. The thing is they really didn’t even need the money. they were never in that bad of shape Kent, mentioned to somebody. Some was tied up but they were convinced that they were broke. When Ken Sr. was alive they were multi-millionaires who lived in a slightly upper class area of Vegas, nothing special. He was thrifty.

            • Baby

              Well I trust your answer! I know his brother Kent said they didn’t..but I thought maybe he was protecting the family.. Thank you for answering my question.. I have always wondered that..

              Sante was absolutely stunning in your youth.. as you know..compared to Elizabeth Taylor.. just stunning… What a grifter .. and talk about a mind fuck for Kenny..He didn’t have a chance..

              I can’t imagine how Kenny felt when he testified against his mother..The pain he must have been in.. The last picture of him ..he looked rough..

  • David E Love

    Lawrence Wright talking to Bill Maher was excellent. So lookimg forward to the HBO airing. I don’t have that channel, but will watch on Skype. Yes, Skype! A dear Friend in the USA will point Ipod to the TV as it airs while we are connected on Skype. Gotta LOVE today’s Tech 😉

    • Sandy

      Ingenious

    • Simi Valley

      Are you doing a conference call thing?

      • David E Love

        No, just a normal Skype call and face the Camera at the TV while we both watch. One in the USA will watch the HBO show on their TV and I will watch on my Skype video screen. I’t not the best but indeed, it will work just fine. Plus, we can talk to each other if there is any Commercials and enjoy eating our Popcorn – follwowed by Caek at the end. 🙂 … The Hype in the town/city I’m calling to is the ‘Talk-Of-The-Town” and this HBO airing is going to be an EPIC WIN …

    • aegerprimo

      Hi David! Just wanted to say I follow and thank you for your excellent articles at Examiner.com ♥

  • Sookie Sookie

    **RED-X**RED-X**

    Get these ads off of Craigslist, Bunker Heroes! (refresh)

    Here’s the spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    Follow Pierrot’s latestinstructions here: http://tonyortega.org/2015/03/07/jon-atack-visits-an-org-also-the-richest-scientologist-gets-even-richer/#comment-1894158367

    Thank you Gyaban, Dodo and Aeger Primo for the art
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/16198890122/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Melissa

      hi…..there are a lot of listings for the Bellaire org (Clearwater)

    • Melissa

      have you seen these sookie sookie?

      • Sookie Sookie

        Melissa – not sure what you’re asking here?

        • Robert Eckert

          She’s surprised at the mass spamming by Tampa/Bellaire

          • Sookie Sookie

            Ah. Sorry, I just mindlessly do the quick flag and don’t pay attention to where things are, unless I only have time for one section, so I hadn’t looked at numbers or locations. 🙂

            • Robert Eckert

              I do it one by one to look at each ad and pluck out the ones that are unclammy but snagged by the trawl anyway. It’s a dirty job but somebody’s got to do it.

            • Just Dee

              It’s important work, Robert. Counter ads are a great thing to have on CL. They at least warn people who and what they are getting into.

            • Robert Eckert

              Aside from counter-ads that we certainly don’t want to flag, there’s also the problem of innocent bystanders. The trawl looks for “Tony” from Sacramento, one of the worst spammers, but lately there is another Tony from Sacramento, a musician who has nothing to do with it.

        • Melissa

          there are many many craigslist listings for “life improvement” classes ect. for the Bellaire org in Clearwater. these ads do not make any reference to scientology, but they all use the telephone number to the Bellaire org in the contact info.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            Melissa, you are correct. Scientology has been using Craigslist ads to covertly recruit new bodies under the pretense of a life improvement center. That is basically the norm now.

          • Sookie Sookie

            If they’re using the Bellaire org #, I’d say flag ’em. But if someone with more experience feels differently, please update the sheet.

          • Robert Eckert

            There’s an effective team of Red X’ers in Florida (flags from the local area seem to “count” more in whatever Craigslist’s algorithm is) and these big bursts of spam from the Belleaire mission are often knocked down quickly.

            • Melissa

              so I just flag each one? I can do that..

            • Robert Eckert

              Yes. Hitting fresh new ones is more effective than hitting old ones (there are various theories as to why, but whatever, it is observed that new ones hit early go down more easily than ones that have gotten old and “sticky”) and hitting ones from near where you live is more effective. If you don’t have time to flag everything, that is priority.

            • Melissa

              I already flagged them all….there was only one ad that mentioned a fee….it said the two week course only costs “about $35.00″….

            • Robert Eckert

              The first hit off the crack pipe is always free.

            • Melissa

              I have been smoking this for a long time…..

            • Melissa

              I think my interest really peaked when I read (a piece of blue sky, I believe) about the event where DM stripped the public scientologists of the orgs, kicked everyone to the hole, and basically took over. a wise man once said,” a little revolution is an good thing.” it is time that he is revolted against.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              He sure is revolting.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Not, 35$? Can you take a course for free?

            • Robert Eckert

              Most of the Craigslist ads don’t ask for any money at all. Of course once you go down to attend one of those “anger classes” or whatever, I’m sure you are expected to buy a book or sign up for an official “course”.

            • beauty for ashes

              ” anger classes!” I need those~ I have the hardest time expressing anger! 🙂

            • Bleuler

              They use DM-tech.

              You learn how a small slight like slights like queue jumping shouldn’t be met with “Pardon me old chap, I do believe I was standing before you in line” but rather with a classic like “You generality infested CICS, I will spit in your face and throw you in the hole.”

              Applying this will help you not to internalize that seething rage.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              When i would Red-ex I’d call just to fuck with them and ask goofy questions. Most wanted the crummy money for the course. I wish you all could have heard those conversations! Moreover, half the time they had no idea what ads are up.

            • Robert Eckert

              You’re a braver man than I am, Gunga Din. I’d expect them to start a file on the phone number and find out everything about your life as well as setting in motion the process to bury you in junk mail every Thursday before 2 for the rest of your life.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              I bought a “burner phone’ from a Drug store and charged it with a Visa gift card. FYI, even if you have a blocked number whenever you dial a toll free number they can get your number. I played them for my friends and literally over 30, that were that priceless. Like I said the funniest thing was them trying to figure out what ads were up!. Most did not have a clue at all. One day I’d like to do a “mashup” of their habitual, misleading people about their affiliations with the church. Ex; Narcaloon, almost never came out and said they were affiliated w/ $cientology. Then it seemed overnight a little over two years ago they started to confess it in the initial phone call. Some of the “finding your ruin” folks were emotional rapist. A soldier who had PTSD ,from the war was only fooling himself if he thought going to a psychologist would help. Two of the people I really wanted to chat with I eventually was able to contact. You’d all know them! Numerous clams gave out their personal cell phone number. Loved to call on Thurs., around 2p and you could just sense the desperation in their voice. Anyway, they were wasting my time so, hence I wasted theirs.

        • Melissa

          46 listings

      • Todd Tomorrow

        upstat.

        • Super Power Wogsy

          ???? somehow. i dont want to know lol

  • Sandy

    ..

  • Sandy

    ..

  • Sandy

    • Jo

      Sandy are you trying to post a pic or link? Disqus has been weird lately.

  • Super Power Wogsy

    Ahhhhhh memories of Clearwater, Florida (see pic above). How I so wanted to be there at one point in time. I will pray that the young cool peeps I met there find their way out of the scam unscathed. I’m also having another WTF moment in the Bunker right now. time to roll.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      So glad you didn’t make it.

      • Super Power Wogsy

        : )

        • Todd Tomorrow

          kisses!

          • Super Power Wogsy

            *snickering* ((hugs))

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Ahem.

    That is not a tent for exterminating varmints in downtown Clearwater. It is actually a specially constructed mattress. One of Scientology’s more (shall we say) demanding members requested it for a very, very special assignation.

    Photos don’t lie:

    • RMycroft

      Poor Gozer, omnomnomnomnomnom’ed out of this plane of existence!

    • Hamtaro

      I bet that liaison won’t be organic!

  • Lurkness

    As mentioned in comments, there is a very good post about a five month security check experience at Flag trying to qualify for OT VII. Buried in the comments was this amusing gem:

    “I worked at Bridge Publications in the Sea Org for about 18 years. I sold LRH books to accounts like Barnes & Noble and Walmart and travelled extensively to get books sold and published in other countries.

    At one point I was being investigated by Miscavige and the CMO. The sales of Dianetics in the US public bookstores had been dropping for some years (since we stopped running TV ads, but that was too obvious).

    As there were only two people who had been on the lines since the late 80’s, we were both being investigated as possible plants, sent in to destroy Bridge. Much easier to investigate a staff member than fix marketing.

    I was sec checked every day and kept under 24 hour watch for several weeks. I would have “interviews” every day in an attempt to get me to confess to some crime or connection that I had that could then be reported uplines. Aha, we found his crimes. We have our “who”.

    At one point my berthing was searched and everything I owned was gone through.

    The next day in my interview, the two top CMO execs, both in their late 20’s started in.

    “Are you a German spy?”. Ummm,, hadn’t really seen that one coming. Come again?

    “Are you working for the German Government as a plant into Bridge Publications?” Hmmm.

    Ends up that in their search they had found a receipt from a hotel in Germany. I had been attending the Frankfurt Book fair most years on behalf of Bridge. I explained to them that I had been to Germany several times. Bridge Publications paid for the trip.

    “So you speak German then?” asks the CMO exec. I say that “No, I don’t.”

    At this point they launch into me. “See, you are lying. How could you travel to Germany and not speak German?”.

    At this point, despite the stress that I had been under for some weeks, I started laughing. Were these guys for real? Neither had obviously left California before.

    100% certainty with zero experience or awareness. That is the essence of Scientology at present.

    That was the beginning of the end for me.”

    http://www.mikerindersblog.org/andy-porter-speaks/#comment-80160

    • Bleuler

      Nein, I am not ein zpy!

      • Sehr gut, compadre.

        • Super Power Wogsy

          ??Que Te Mama Que??

          • Happy International Women’s Day!

            • Super Power Wogsy

              Why thank you Dodo. I will be celebrating by watching Oprah and drinking Starbucks.

  • Spike Robinson

    Tick, tock, tick, tock…

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwFKxUja-hs&feature=youtu.be

    Soon, Davey boy, soon.

    • Lurkness

      Great work and jelly of your talents.
      “Davey boy you know your hands are soaked in blood”.
      This is true.

      • Super Power Wogsy

        Nice work Spike!
        The end is near
        Great year to be an ex-scientologist!

        This is true
        SPW

        • Spike Robinson

          Thanks! 😀

          • Super Power Wogsy

            semi-off topic. i have read your posts at the sps r us forum, and I just want to say your postings have really helped me . i’m not a member there but just wanted to say thanks for posting your stories : )

            • Spike Robinson

              Oh, wow! Thank you so much! I’m so very glad to have been of help! that’s what we’re all here for; to help each other. 🙂

      • Spike Robinson

        And speaking of Jellie – what kind of man names his dog to rhyme with his wife’s name?

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks! And speaking of Jellie – what kind of man names his dog to rhyme with his wife’s name?

        • Newiga

          You’re right.. It never occurred to me until now. O_O

    • aegerprimo

      “…When Karma finally comes to sit on your face…”
      ROFLMFAO! ☺

      • Spike Robinson

        I know… I couldn’t resist.

    • Melissa

      poor little Jelly….if he needs a new home, I will take him.

    • EnthralledObserver

      haha… nice job! 🙂
      Tick Tock, Davey, indeed!

      • Spike Robinson

        Thank you! When CO$ falls I’ll be watching… with a bowl of popcorn.

    • Baby

      You are absolutely a doll..beautiful voice.. thanks Spike..Just absolutely fabulous..

      • Spike Robinson

        Thanks, Baby! that voice is driven by the passion to bring this bastard down. In fact, I’ve said it before, and I’ll say it again – if I could get him to hear ‘Diminutive Despot’ *and* get it stuck in his head as an earworm, I’d consider that a damn good blow for the fight! 🙂

        • Baby

          Hahahah.. What an asshole he is.. Keep up the work ..we all have our special talents to spread the word..Yours is amazing..xo baby

  • Mockingbird

    Hey , sorry I got to the party late today – a critic cannot always be here but can try to catch up . I have a post at my blog on OT VIII the anti Christ version .http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/03/ot-viii-anti-christ-version.html that I wrote recently that has a full HCOB on the level for your amusement/horror. I also have a new post written just now on What Does “Workable” Mean?taken from my response to that question on a thread at ESMB . I try to cover a lot in that one very briefly and then refer to other references to fill in the gaps and support my points .
    http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/03/re-what-does-workable-mean.html

    For any who read these please let me know what you think as it is truly vital to my efforts to get feedback on how my stuff is received . Thanks .

    • Super Power Wogsy

      I learned of your story on Sps R us. I’m not a member there, but I found your post about “why boredom is a barrier to study phenomena” to be helpful. For the last year, i was uber ambivalent about the study tech until I read this post yesterday or the day before. I’m in between lectures for class at the moment and buzzing from my tequila sunrise and can’t write something much longer, but I would like to say thank you for your blog. I have it saved, and congrats on your 1 year anniversary from being out of the cult : )

      • Mockingbird

        Thank you so much . I have written a lot more on study tech and recommend theses three to really take on the dragon :http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/insidious-enslavement-study-technology.html and http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/pissed-its-not-your-fault.html
        and then http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/01/basic-introduction-to-hypnosis-in.html . Also my simplest breakdown on what the whole con is and does is here :http://mbnest.blogspot.com/2015/02/mockingbirds-nest-why-hubbard-never.html

        • Super Power Wogsy

          Your an angel. I’ve been a student for the past year and have always had the study tech in the back of my mind plaguing me as I am always bored when reading/listening to lectures and just fell back on the study tech. Thank you Thank you. Honestly. After I read your post, I felt so relieved. I’ve already save the links and will look at it tomorrow. I am forever grateful Mockingbird.

          • Super Power Wogsy

            Well it’s good to know that I’ve just been PISSED the last year : )

          • Mockingbird

            Thank you so much . I am thrilled beyond words when someone casts off the longstanding and highly confusing basic Scientology doctrine that Hubbard confuses us with and then uses to persuade us via lies that we must submit to his authority and not use our critical and independent thinking abilities . Study Tech is one of the most harmful and well hidden methods to remake people into willing and d eluded slaves . It seems like a real subject but is a a delivery mechanism for thought reform . Please enjoy any relief from Hubbard’s lies you find and share this with others .

    • “If there ever was a devil, he designed the reactive mind.” -L. Ron Hubbard from Dianetics was, as you observe, one of his first sham religion writings. And then he comes full-circle by saying in what one would think would be his last writing, OT8, that HE is the devil, thereby admitting that HE created the reactive mind since it was the devil all along and he is the devil. Elron was right on that point though, he DID create the reactive mind since it’s a total sham (and scam). I know The Immense Pomposity is a devil also, and don’t doubt that his delusions of grandeur made him believe he was THE devil.

      LRH really knew how to put the “cult” into the occult.
      I really like your blog, hadn’t had a chance to read it before. I am glad you are able to write such a coherent and thoughtful blog after 25 years in the cult!

      • Mockingbird

        Thank you so much . I am thrilled when people get that Hubbard repackaged occult ideas all through the doctrine covertly and wanted to in fact persuade us as an anti Christ figure . It was his intent from long before DMSMH as he loved the occult . Please share this info with others as it is vital to breaking the grip Hubbard’s lies have on the minds of men and women .

    • aegerprimo

      WOW! I like your blog and need to spend some more time reading your stuff.

      I like the way you emphasize in your “what does workable mean” essay that if Scientology does not work, it is the fault of the member, not the fault of the founder, L Ron Hubbard.

      • Mockingbird

        Thank you , I feel the switch from seeing Scientology’s failures and lack of results as being on Hubbard or the group to the individual blaming themself always is a key misdirection udes in the con .

  • Super Power Wogsy

    I’m here at the moment so for any lurkers hanging out please help Flag the CO$ Craigslist ads!

    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    (Refesh)Stigrius by Chriscold modified by DodoTheLaser & flickered by AegerPrimo
    https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/16687762555/in/album-72157642802079293/

  • aegerprimo

    I have a friend I started talking to about my involvement in the cult of $cientology and $ea Org. I’ve sent her to read my stories at ESMB and have had to explain a lot of things from those threads because I wrote them for other exes and people who knew some of the $cientology jargon. So…. I just completed a small glossary of words at ESMB (in my own words, not cut and paste from the damned $ciloon tech dictionary). I think that y’all may find helpful as well.

    Some Scientology Jargon Defined
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/entry.php?877-Some-Scientology-Jargon-Defined

    • Newiga

      Thanks, Aegerprimo! Although, I’m very far down the rabbit hole by now, I still occationally come across with some scientology words I don’t understand.

      • Don’t ever hesitate to ask, Newiga.

        • Newiga

          Thanks! I’ll ask the next time I see a scio-word I don’t understand. 🙂

          The promo videos where people are telling their “wins” are the worst. One scientology term after another. Although I know the meaning of most, there are SO MANY in a row that it takes me time to fully digest what they’re saying. 😀

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Thank You Aegerprimo.. I have just done qiuick check out;). 10 was new for me or I wasn’t sure about meaning. Rest was obvious. :):):)

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Sunday the 8th of March
    Good day All,
    I am early as we are invited to a special lunch today, and it is already time to hit the road.

    Our results are still down (only SFBay managed some success), too many good news and foot bullets are keeping us from hammering these co$ ads!
    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better). Regional List
    2. Use the Reboot Router Tech to acquire a new IP,RRT
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.
    4. Check the Daily Wip regularly and flag new/refreshed ads.
    5. Complain to CL about spamming: see https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-118#post-2514616
    You do not need to be local, anybody can complain all you need is a email address! Everybody concentrate on LA spams.

    RedX write up : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    (F5, …) for Aeger Primo’s Super RedX https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/13156278293/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Graham

      Just done a mass Quick Flag. I’ve been absent from the Red X gang recently as I’ve been monitoring the spate of UK adverts, including the complaint to the Advertising Standards Authority.

  • Todd Tomorrow
    • Todd Tomorrow

      What does”pschew’ mean?

      • Super Power Wogsy

        You mean you can’t just look at the word and have it go “BAM!!?” : )

        • Todd Tomorrow

          No, I looked in my copy of, Scientology for Dummies. And it wasn’t in there. Kplat!

          • Super Power Wogsy

            You need to turn on your spidey senses…

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Dulled by painkillers..I’m off the grid.

            • Super Power Wogsy

              I’m just joking. I seriously don’t know. Never had anything blow mind like that during course.

      • Bleuler

        It’s the sound of a semicolon vanishing.

      • Robert Eckert

        You need to clear up your M/U by making a clay model.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Synonym for “Vrroooom, vrooom.”

  • Steve Bazemore

    What’s the deal with the HBO Canada thing??

    • Graham

      It’s probably the ‘chilling’ effect which happens when a country has draconian libel laws. It puts a brake on free speech when wary media pre-censor themselves in order to avoid the risk of costly & lengthy court proceedings. Scientology has a reputation for starting court cases they have no chance of winning, as they know that even a failed case is a ‘win’ if it causes the other side distress and loss of money. Having said that, they don’t seem to be doing that recently. Possibly because they are overwhelmed by other court cases (eg Narconon) plus virtually all the competent staff have blown.

      • Steve Bazemore

        Interesting. I figured it was a legal thing. Wonder what this means when Going Clear airs?

  • To all the ladies in the Bunker – Happy International Women’s Day!

    • EnthralledObserver

      Thanks, Dodo! 🙂

      (haha… sometimes I’m not so much a ‘lady’, but always a woman) 😉

      • Woman and a Mother. 🙂

        • EnthralledObserver

          Oh yes… that too. And tonight’s Motherly joy was… HEADLICE!

          *Xenu help me*

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Thank You, Sir:). Spring is coming. Today in my town weather is beautiful. Sun is shining and sky has intense blue colour :):):)

    • obvious sock account

      I, too, appreciate the ladies. Not only do I know many of them, but I am also from one of them. And if I know anything about them, it’s that they love three things:

      1. Clouds and flowers
      2. Clouds
      3. Flowers

    • L. C. Spencer

      Thanks, you lovely guy, you 🙂

    • Baby

      Loving it Dodo.. So sweet of you.. Thank you …xoxo love Baby

  • seriouslyWTF

    New post up.

  • Michelle D

    FYI the videos are no longer available.