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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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SCIENTOLOGY DECLARES ACTRESS LEAH REMINI A “SUPPRESSIVE PERSON”

Leah_Remini6Back in July, we broke the news that Leah Remini had left Scientology after growing up in the church and becoming one of its most well-known celebrity defenders. We learned that she had begun to grow disaffected after what she saw at Tom Cruise’s 2006 wedding to Katie Holmes, and then decided to leave for good earlier this year. In order to minimize the chances for Scientology’s legendary retaliation, Remini managed to convince her entire family to leave the church with her.

But Remini was still careful to limit what she said publicly about her reasons for leaving. Many Scientologists who ditch the controlling church do so as quietly as possible, hoping to avoid Scientology’s ultimate punishment — to be “declared” a “suppressive person,” Scientology’s version of excommunication. Not only can “SPs” feel the full force of Scientology’s sophisticated revenge apparatus, but SPs also lose all contact with Scientologists who want to remain in good standing with the church. Our sources had told us that Remini hoped to avoid being declared an SP so she could remain in contact with some other celebrities who were on the fence about leaving.

Last week, we received a report that Scientology has now declared the King of Queens actress a suppressive person.

After we heard that report, we confirmed it with a Scientology ethics officer that a declare order had been issued.

“She has a massive PTS condition,” the ethics officer added.

As a “PTS,” or Potential Trouble Source, Leah Remini has been bringing a lot of heat on Scientology leader David Miscavige, particularly in reference to the mysterious whereabouts of his wife, Shelly.

Shelly Miscavige was once a Scientology executive in her own right and was a fixture at major church events and at the organization’s “International Base” near Hemet, California. But since late 2005, Shelly hasn’t been seen at the base or at church events or anywhere else that Scientologists gather. Except for an appearance at her father’s funeral in the summer of 2007 in the presence of a handler, Shelly has been kept out of sight, and Remini could get no straight answers about her location. On Monday, August 5, Remini reported Shelly missing to the Los Angeles Police Department. We learned about that report on Wednesday evening August 7 and reported it the next morning. Later that day, however, the LAPD began telling reporters that Shelly wasn’t “missing,” and that they had talked to her.

Shelly Miscavige still has made no public comments and has not appeared publicly — even at Sunday’s happening in Clearwater, Florida, when David Miscavige presided over the biggest Scientology event in probably a decade, the opening of its new cathedral, the “Super Power Building.” Shelly is still “missing” as far as Scientologists are concerned, even if the LAPD was satisfied that she is in good health. (We reported earlier that for the past seven years it’s most likely that Shelly has been working at a small mountain compound near Lake Arrowhead, cut off from the rest of the church and the rest of the outside world.)

Although some of the press seemed to think the LAPD report had blown up in Leah’s face, it only proved how concerned she was about Shelly and it showed the depth of her resolve in leaving Scientology. Many of our expert sources all told us the same thing — by going to the police, Leah had crossed a line of no return, and Miscavige would be forced to declare her an SP. Leah’s public statements on television since then on programs like The Ellen Show and The View have been somewhat muted, but they only make it plain that she’s out for good, and will continue to put Miscavige in a tough spot.

Now, he apparently has done what our experts expected and has declared her.

We asked Mike Rinder, former top spokesman for the church and someone who worked for many years with Miscavige, for his thoughts on Miscavige declaring Remini.

First, I don’t think he had any choice. Clearly, Leah has dissed Miscavige and the church and dared to publicly complain about the practice of disconnection and even worse, she asked “Where’s Shelly?”

There is a fairly significant effort ongoing at this time to “burn out the cancer” — quite a number of people have recently received their “verbal declares” or a letter from the International Justice Chief attaching the policy letter with their alleged “high crimes” highlighted. I guess it’s an effort to eradicate all “disaffection” because it’s spreading too far and too fast.

It would cause even more dissent (if that’s possible) to not declare Leah, as Miscavige would have another version of the “Tom Cruise” problem. Cruise has not been forced to disconnect from Katie Holmes or Nicole Kidman, and many people who have been forced to disconnect ask the logical question. “Why isn’t Cruise forced to disconnect, when I am forced to do so….”

Captain Miscavige and his ship of fools blunder from iceberg to iceberg. As he tosses more and more overboard to try to stay afloat, he doesn’t seem to notice that there are fewer and fewer on deck saluting him and his dogs.

The one skill he has honed to a fine edge is his ability to make enemies. It’s a self-fulfilling prophecy. He is convinced there are suppressive persons behind every bush, feverishly working to destroy him. And he keeps adding to the army of SP’s so they are everywhere.

More power to Leah. Just like Jason Beghe and Paul Haggis, people like her. She is smart and funny and down-to-earth. It’s probably more damaging to Scientology’s image that she and Paul and Jason have left (“those guys are straight shooters — if they say it sucks, I guess it must really suck”) than even the negative of Tom Cruise’s crazy (“he seems sort of weird, maybe it’s Scientology, but there are a lot of weird actors so maybe its just that….”)

 
Remini, meanwhile, continues to advance her career after leaving the church. While her run on Dancing With The Stars ended last week, she has begun shooting for her new series — she’s going to play a recurring character on TV Land’s The Exes

 


 


 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 25, 2013 at 07:00

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  • stateofcircle

    What I want to know is who is the ethics officer that is talking to Tony??

    • ze moo

      Why, all of them, of course.

  • Artoo45

    Yes, it’s been seen before, but in light of recent developments, I think it’s time to post this again . . . and besides, this time I spelled Geir’s name correctly.

    • OrangySky

      Now that is a party I’d pay to attend!

    • Aslansown

      I love this — just a note since you were correcting spelling — Marc Headley is spelled with a “c”

      This is amazing!

  • Artoo45

    Okay, I know it’s been seen before, but in light of recent developments I think it’s time again to promote the idea of SPlash! And I spelled Geir’s name right this time . . . and the url.

    • Bob

      Hilarious.

      • lucille austero

        What he said!

    • DeElizabethan

      Fantastic!

  • DamOTclese2

    ” He is convinced there are suppressive persons behind every bush…”

    That reminds me of “Deep Wog,” I believe his name was, out at Clearwater in 1998 for the Lisa McPherson memorial Protest. Deep Wog was literally pawing through the bushes next to Flag for some reason. :)

    We are, David. We really are hiding behind every bush. And hiding out in front, along side, we’re dripping from your rafters, buddy! :) More coming every day, too, by the looks of it. :)

    • DamOTclese2

      Yeah, think “Snakes On A Plane” where the damn things are everywhere, and just when you’re sure you got them all, WHAM!!! You’re balls deep in snakes once again. :)

      I hear that we breed. :) I’ve never seen it but, well, there are rumors. :)

  • Observer

    ..

  • OrangySky

    Just popped over to Black Rob’s ESMB thread to see pix from GAT II – I invite shoop artists to include captions. I was especially unimpressed at the goldfish and crackers, store bought tortilla chips, and donuts for dessert. Was this a “feed the Sea Org/Staff” event? Because I cannot imagine a Whale eating ritz crackers and cheese cubes, and glazed donuts. http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?34065-GATII-Behind-the-Scenes-Pics

    Oh – I will start any shooper off with this photo and a caption: The guy in the middle of the photo is clearing describing his recent encounter with COB Captain David Miscavige!

    • Sunny Sands

      Just an FYI, the number “210″ is the Ft. Harrison hotel.

    • HolyCash
      • Sarah James

        That young man looks hungry.

        • Michael Leonard Tilse

          He won’t get the leftovers until mid-rats*.

          *Mid-rats: “Midnight Rations”, so called because the guys working long hours could take a break at midnight or thereabouts, and go to the galley for snacks and drinks. And then back to work for some more hours.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            But the aromas are… free!

          • ze moo

            ‘Mid-rats’ is a very old US Navy term.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Ripped off by hubbard, like so many things.

        • HolyCash

          Man? Man/Child who looks angry that he is hungry. The middle man and middle class has been stripped out, kicked out and all that is left is the Rodeo Drive plated whales being served their plated meals by their plated slaves. The money shot.

        • aegerprimo

          Poor Sea Org guy… only rice and beans for him, day in, day out. Nom nom nom.

      • kemist

        Ah, food prepared and served by child slaves.

        Delicious.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        No eye contact. Even really Big beings know when they are doing something inherently creepy. Like dining on food prepared and served by servile children. Creepy, and reminiscent of something I saw long ago…

    • Sarah James

      I know it can’t the beer and cheese party because you said they had cheese. Scientology never promises the truth. Be it appetizers or OT powers it is all just lies. :-)

    • Jo

      I like this photo, they look really bored and one guy looks like he’s about to turn into a zombie.

      • GlibWog

        ABOUT TO?

      • OrangySky

        Caption for the guy with mustache: “I have had the life sucked out of me. I have absolutely no hope left.”

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      So much to shoop, so little time!

      All this one needs is a single photo balloon for the, um, ENTHUSIAST in the second row:
      REDRUM!!!

    • OrangySky

      Wow, I got a down vote on that one! Somebody’s lurking!

    • Mark

      Will this do? There’s shoop gold in them thar ESMB hills!

      • OrangySky

        XO!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Actually, I thought that dress was the exact shade of his tan…

        • Mark

          He’s more a Donnatella Versace shade of weathered crocodile-hide to my eyes. Melanoma, anyone?

      • DeElizabethan

        The guy on the right “I’m boned” is Peter Mansell, a head (rat) man at OSA. He’s been with them forever.

    • NOLAGirl

      I imagine the guy to the right of the lady in the dress saying “And COB is only THIS tall” Hehehehe

      I know, I’m silly. :D

  • Jo

    Scientology seminars to help you spot the pesky SP before they even get started suppressing. *refresh* :)

  • Simi Valley

    Part 2 of the scary story about the New York org is up now, from the Columbia Lion:
    http://columbialion.com/blog/if-you-give-a-scientologist-50/

    • http://www.interbridge.com/lineups.html trow125

      Because of my fascination with the church and this blog, my husband sometimes jokes that one of these days, he expects me to pay a visit to our local org. This article offers a good explanation of why I would never actually do that. I’ll bet if the author had returned the call about the Super Power event and said, “I’d love to be there — in fact, I’ll be happy to take notes and write it up for the Underground Bunker!” he’d get off their lists pretty fast.

      • OrangySky

        “I’d
        love to be there — in fact, I’ll be happy to take notes and write it
        up for the Underground Bunker!” he’d get off their lists pretty fast.
        Ha ha!

        Too bad an undercover Bunkerite (one of the under-the-radar exes) didn’t get the call!

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      • Mooser

        he expects me to pay a visit to our local org”

        I’ve been toying with that idea since I started reading too! Oddly enough, the Seattle Org is on Harrison Street. Have you read“Mark’s visit to Scientology”
        He visited the Seattle Org. and lived to tell about it.

    • DamOTclese2

      Wow, that reads like a violently sociopath ex-boy friend who won’t stop calling, won’t stop sending letters, won’t stop sending emails, absolutely can’t take “no” for an answer, an ex-boy friend that is going to show up at the door at all hours of the day and night, mark in a car on the street, eventually an ex-boy friend that is going to need to be served with a restraining order.

      These Scientology assholes are so starved for customers that they engage in harassment trying to swindle money from rubes, 99.99% of them who want nothing to do with the crooks.

    • ze moo

      The police and the phone companies take a dim view of harassment and stalking. Use them.

    • DamOTclese2

      One afternoon while on my way to the Guardians Office, Raymond Baiardi was standing at the bottom of the stairs leading up to the Guardians Office. As I walked past, he did a quick
      kick with his right foot at me and then turned to a person he was conversing with and made a comment about me.

      Good to see that HolySmoke is being used wisely and well all over the place.

    • cdub

      A heartfelt story from a young innocent about the relentless recruiting machine of Dianetics/Scientology. Before the Internet, this could have been me or many of the participants at this blog and elsewhere. Since the Internet, now with at least 15 years of accumulated stalking/harassing stories, future casual observers need no longer suffer the ordeal this poor student is undergoing..

    • Seannie5

      Do they honestly think constant long-term harassment is going to persuade people to continue with the courses? The fact that they can get private cell numbers is the worst

    • OrangySky

      This story is just filled with every footbullet technique of “hard sell” that has gotten Scientology the worst reputation of any organization in the US. Come on, the Westboro Baptist Church is more subtle than Scientology!

    • Ardent

      Well, that scared the hell out of me.

  • And I’m Cute, Too

    This’ll be just a quick message before I head off to work. Haven’t read Tony’s whole article yet.

    Leah, I am so proud of you, and how you’ve carried yourself during this whole ordeal. Your courage is amazing. I understand if you’re worried about those still in, but those who love and know you best will be joining you in SP Land soon enough, I’m sure. Even if it’s hard now, I hope you can someday wear your SP declare as a badge of honour, as so many others do.

    Down with the Cult of Greed and Power!

  • Funnybroad

    I hope she laminates it, and carries it to all future interviews.

  • Jeb Burton

    I think its time for Leah to sit down with Tony, or Anderson Cooper or whoever and do a no holds barred interview. Or if you want to make money, write your book. But I think it is time to do something. I admit I do not know what you have been through, but if you want to help the cause of bringing down DM, and the cult, you can do some good if you tell your story. You have a unique platform and you should use it.

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Holy shit! Just watched a vid at the Ocala mission with my Craig’s list frenemy Jennifer!
    Will update more when I get home!
    Beaahaaahaa!

    Edit: I do feel bad though….sorta!

    • Ruby

      Can’t wait to hear!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        BAAHAAAHAAA. Just walked in the door…..Must go get comfy and then I will give ya’ll the deets.
        If I can stop laughing…………..

        • aquaclara

          If you fall for this stuff, we are going in there to pull you out. You know that, right?!?

    • GlibWog

      SPILL IT GIRLFRIEND.. WAITING WITH BAD BREATH!

    • aquaclara

      Hey, BTN! I can’t wait to hear this story!! Was this before or after stopping next door for a lovely glass of wine?! Come on girl, cough it up!

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        You called it. I told Hubby I was taking him to dinner for his B-day and he said lets go to the square.
        Downtown Ocala does this huge light display for the holidays and it was up, so there were some people downtown. It is gorgeous BTW.

        As we drove up, I noticed the mission had an “Open House”…which is pretty rare as it is usually shuttered up tight……..as it was when you were here.

        OK, so we go to dinner at Harry’s……and it was happy hour, so, well…you all know me. A couple of glasses of white zinfandel later and I am ready to peek at the mission. There is a lady in a black outfit outside smoking which was obviously the mission minion.
        She starts to go inside and we exchange “it is a beautiful night” pleasantries.
        I ask about the open house.
        She asks if I have ever heard of Dianetic’s.

        Why, Yes, I have. I even tried to read it once.
        My mom had it and suggested it. She liked it, but I didn’t really get it…..
        But yeah, I recognize that guy (L.Wrong) from the book jacket.

        OK, so far I am being totally honest.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Anyway, so by this time she has already gotten me inside and asks if I would like to watch a video.
          (This is after telling me how Dianetic’s helped her and changed her life)
          BTW, she was very genuine (sounding) and nice. She tells me straight up how some things in our life can have a devastating effect without us realizing it.
          (Neither of us mention Engrams ;-)
          I tell her I remember my Mom talking about this and that things that happened, maybe even in the way distant past could effect us.

          I did all this while being as obnoxiously bubbly as I possibly could be..which is pretty darned annoying.
          So she sits down with me and we watch the video. Maybe five to seven minutes of bad behavior. People yelling at each other, striking each other, even kids. It was quite…….well……uncomfortable.
          Especially the part where the pregnant mom ran into an open drawer and hit her stomach giving the poor mass of cells to be known as a baby someday………..the dreaded…ENGRAM.

          • OrangySky

            OMG! (I am a tad disappointed, though, that it wasn’t “GAGII Starring Captain David Miscavige!”)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Nada…………..and I SO wanted to ask about the events………but I knew that would be a buzzkill

          • GlibWog

            Bleh… You took a bullet for us Bury..

            WTH was Mr. Bury doing ? OMG

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              When he saw I was going to walk into the belly of the beast……….his eyes got big and he crossed the fucking street to get away.
              It was hilarious!
              But he called at JUST the right time for me to make my excuse exit and totally blame him.
              HAHAHAHA

            • Ruby

              So, were there any other public there?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              DEAD. NONE, zilch, nada.
              And when I drove by an hour earlier (before dinner)………..a big ZERO.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              So, you sent their regular stats through. The. Roof.

              You SP, you.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              I cannot stop laughing, Poor Mr Bury, what have you down to him?

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Running like a MOFO.

              Honestly, when he realized I was going in…you should have seen his face……………Hahahaha

            • GlibWog

              I can just see it now..bawwwwwwwwwwwwhahahhahahhaa

            • OrangySky

              Mr. Bury is one Long-Suffering Huz.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            You got further than I ever did in Santa Ana one day…

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Sorry everybody….I know my stories are endlessly long!

            Anyway. The video finally ends and Jennifer says to me:
            You seem like you are really a happy person and you look like you do very well.
            (clutches my purse a little tighter).
            I say I am happy and do well in life.
            She says well there must be something in your life that you would change or would make you even better.
            (No personality test required????)
            So, I say….OK, wait for it….I had to quickly find a ruin.
            Well Jennifer, I would really like to lose fifty pounds and just cant seem to do it.
            It is very frustrating.

            Well, Lo and Behold……………you guys won’t believe this………NO REALLY!!!!
            Jennifer used to weigh 236 pounds when she first discovered Dianetics.
            She has been cured thanks to the wisdom of LRH!!! Ok, well, maybe not cured, cuz she looked like she could lose another 30 or so….but I digress.
            So she invites me to a seminar tomorrow at 7PM. I actually forgot what…even though I asked her to repeat it. It was something with NESS on the end.
            Anyway, hubby called me on the cell and told me to GTFO of there.
            I told Jennifer that he would drive me nuts.
            So she tried to sell me a copy of Dianutty……..only $20.
            I said…………You know…I think I still have a copy of that, so before I buy one….let me check.

            So she hands me an address card to fill out so she can contact me tomorrow.
            I eagerly fill it out.

            Lets just say, my neighbor is going to fucking KILL ME if he figures out it was me who used his address. ;)

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Mrs. Douglas and I needed a good laugh tonight. Thank you!

            • Ruby

              And THIS is why I love you, Bury! XOXO

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Ruby, This is why I love myself………….BWAAHAAAHAAAA

            • Ruby

              As it should be!!

            • EnthralledObserver

              “Lets just say, my neighbor is going to fucking KILL ME if he figures out it was me who used his address.
              ;)”
              LOL! Poor Nuts neighbour…

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I am gong to make up a shore story for the hubs to collect the drivel from the neighbor.
              we have a firepit….so…

            • EnthralledObserver

              I knew you’d feed hubby to the lions again… ahahahahahaha!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              poor guy….I did have a WTF moment…where i,had to get crEATIVE

            • tone 3.3

              Enjoyed the play by play. You must have nerves of steel to pull stuff like that off. By the way, your new avatar looks like Callisto doing a number two.:)

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              That is a bingo on callisto doing the 2………..That is WHY i love it

            • GlibWog

              OH MY GOD…

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I know Huh. I ain’t quite rite!!!

            • GlibWog

              Nope… and that is why we are buddies.. Oh Shit.. I forgot my Paxil again..errrrrrrgh

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              TAKE IT NOW!

            • Funnybroad

              RESPECT!!!

            • KJP in Portland

              LOL! I do the same thing when I don’t want people to contact me but force me into filling a form. I give them an old boss’s address!

              Oh, the lulz! You did GREAT!

            • GlibWog

              PS.. Take all the space you need darlin.. You are so funny you should charge us a cover charge..ha

            • Observer

              That would’ve been the perfect time to bring up Kirstie Alley, her line of weight loss products, and her weight struggles.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Back in college, I once arranged to have a friend receive informative literature and a free sample of adult diapers.

            • Free Minds, Free Hearts

              OMG I love you Bury!!!!!!

            • OrangySky

              LOLing about your neighbor!!!!!!!

              “Jennifer used to weigh 236 pounds when she first discovered Dianetics.” Oh come on. She came up with that number using the Hubbardian “pull data out of your ass” tech.

            • Casabeca

              Jennifer was holding her height in dianetics books perhaps?

            • monkeyknickers

              How heartily I love you, woman.

            • monkeyknickers

              YOU ARE AWESOME.

    • OrangySky

      OMG! Was it the GATII video?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Oh, no way. It was Sciloon 101A!

      • NOLAGirl

        They probably don’t have that video doctored up to Tiny Dick’s every specification yet. :D Shooping an extra 7000 people takes a bit. Hehehe

    • EnthralledObserver

      Are you home yet?

    • Aslansown

      It must have been scary. Your hair changed color from yesterday!! ;-)

      • Robert Eckert

        She had to disguise herself.

    • DeElizabethan

      I found the thread BTN Whoopie!

  • KJP in Portland

    Good evening, ladies and gents! (((HUGS))), (((High-5′s)))

    • EnthralledObserver

      Morning… :) (or in your case, Good Evening.)

      • KJP in Portland

        Morning :) to you!

  • Walter Mitty

    The way to happiness. (picture-refresh) (Response to OrangySky with the pix from GAT II)

    • Sarah James

      So that’s what happiness looks like, I always wondered…

  • Mark

    Breaking news: seating-policy at Golden Age Of Dreck launch exposed (with thanks to Orangy Sky & Black Rob’s ESMB thread)…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      If you haven’t already, could you please use your awesome abilities to decipher what these people are saying? And should the gal in the front row be given some sort of warning…?

      • Walter Mitty

        Smile all day – the new Scientology product. (picture- refresh)

      • Mark

        Done! (see above).

    • GlibWog

      OK.. I have to do one..hahahhaha This is fun..Love this Mark..

    • OrangySky

      Love it!

    • KJP in Portland

      The visuals on this look exactly like everything we read about. Excellent shoop. Hear, hear!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    And another from the BIG WEEKEND…

    The clams bid a fond farewell, and offer the traditional “Hands Open” gesture, signifying to the ever-vigilant regges that they have been picked clean…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      (Bet the luggage is full of glazed doughnuts and cheese cubes in zip-loc bags…)

      • OrangySky

        The guy on the right has a nervous smile, because he’s still got some money in his wallet, and he’s afraid they will sec-check it out of him if he lets on….

    • Miss Tia

      Does the shirt on the left say ‘Defiant’?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The shirt was in the free gift bag, I believe. To promote “Defiant,” the new perfume from C.O.B. It smells like spray tan, breath mints, and desperation.

        • Miss Tia

          with an undertone of scotch? ;)

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            …and just a hint of ten-year-old E-meter.

      • marti

        derant.

    • marti

      The woman 2nd from right looks the same as from Marks pic a few posts above titled. “More breaking news: epidemic of heretical thoughts at GAT II boreathon….”

  • EnthralledObserver

    I think Leah should adapt, print (and laminate) a copy of an SP declare – even if she doesn’t have an original in possession, then carry it around for the press. Force the next footbullet when the CO$ tries to say either – she’s NOT declared, when they’ve told all their members she is! Or they try to say it’s not the official one and attempt to correct her by publically admitting the existence of the original and possibly even showing it. OR, not say anything and let the public believe it’s the real one. Damned if they do, damned if they don’t – ONCE AGAIN! LOL

    • Freethinker

      Brilliant!

    • MaxSpaceman

      But- as noted elsewhere- there will be no Goldenrod printed for her.
      The declare is verbal. Perhaps “for internal use only” they may have a goldenrod and/or other documentation on the declare, but outside the bubble there will be nothing but ‘word-of-mouth.’

      • EnthralledObserver

        That was my point, Maxxy… to create confusion on whether it exists, or why doesn’t it exist (and the unfairness of that), for the $cienos. Wogs will be horrified either way.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Got it ~

    • OrangySky

      Maybe she can borrow Tory’s?

  • GlibWog

    This is not meant as a dig for ANYONE BUT KRUSTY… I PROMISE YOU.. Please don’t take offense.. She is one person that I can NOT stomach..( Unless she blows..and spills secrets..)

    • KJP in Portland

      Yeah, she blows alright. Rotten, evil, nasty woman. Even if she ‘blows’, any respect for her will take decades to catch up.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      After the way she treated her SO “handlers” at the doughnut bar that morning, is it any wonder…?

      (refresh)

      • Mark

        She really does look like three hundred pounds of shit stuffed into a one hundred pound sack, doesn’t she?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          And that’s a “GLAMOROUS” photo that she approved! (From the tub thumping for Fat Actress.)

          • Mark

            Did the poor chap underneath live to tell the tale? If he didn’t suffer from a crushed pelvis, she must have cracked a couple of his ribs, at least.

          • KJP in Portland

            Puke!

          • KJP in Portland

            Must be posted in the big-girls fetish section.

      • GlibWog

        hahahhaha .. Costco Crap… No Krispy Kremes at this $450 Million { Chirch}

        I bet DM didn’t eat this Fabulous.. ” Buffet! “

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          ( I actually labeled this photo “KirstieKreme!”)

          • GlibWog

            hahahha

            • KJP in Portland

              KrustyKreme?

          • GlibWog

            hahahha

      • KJP in Portland

        Puke!

      • KJP in Portland

        Puke!

      • KJP in Portland

        Puke!

  • El Con Blubbard

    Scientology Ethics Officer confirmed her “SP Declare” – “she has a massive PTS condition? She spent $300,000 on SEC CHECKS at the Flag Land Base for the next several years after asking “WHERE’S SHELLY and Flag could not “help her lose her mind and her memory on the “incident…

    Flag – Mecca of Technical Perfection? Scarey!!

    Her PTS condition is this: noticing something is not quite right with Shelly Miscavige missing and she queries it with the Scientology Spokeman – Tommy Davis – and he tells her “you don’t have the fucking rank to ask where Shelly is”….

    So happy she is out of the crazy cult!! It is so insane!

  • KJP in Portland

    “Captain Miscavige and his ship of fools blunder from iceberg to iceberg. As he tosses more and more overboard to try to stay afloat, he doesn’t seem to notice that there are fewer and fewer on deck saluting him and his dogs.”

    Tick-tock, buffoon, tick-tock…

    The ship is riding a little high on the water.

  • Mark

    More breaking news: epidemic of heretical thoughts at GAT II boreathon….

    • GlibWog

      hahahahha You had me a Soy-tiffy-kate for a minute ..but kept saying it faster..hahahahah

      • Mark

        Soitenly!

        • KJP in Portland

          I resemble that remark!

    • KJP in Portland

      Yes, the security guard at the rear is a crack-up!

    • KJP in Portland

      Yes, the security guard at the rear is a crack-up!

    • Funnybroad

      Loffly land! LOL!

  • TheCommodeDoor

    Has anyone else noticed this commercial? The opening lines are: “The squirrels just aren’t listening to Dave. No – they don’t seem to care what he says”

    http://youtu.be/0-OJmjeT1ok

    • Robert Eckert

      I just saw that yesterday! I’m amazed it is up on YouTube so quickly.

    • GlibWog

      Perfection

    • ClamInAHalfshell

      There was another ad with attacking squirrels in it recently too. Squirrels that had been taught to clip coupons and then go on the attack.

      “The squirrels just aren’t listening to Dave…” That CAN’T be a coincidence. LOL.

  • Lurkness

    Thanks to the CL flaggers!!! Diana in OC is down to just a couple of ads. Will see if she starts reposting in violation of the Terms of Use. So far, just one more ad added today. LA is almost clear again. The number of LA ads have been significantly reduced, but from the mass postings of this week, these 10 ads are still up and they violate the TOU as spam/prohibited because of the volume and not identifying $cientology/third party.

    http://losangeles.craigslist.org/search/eee?query=8200&zoomToPosting=&sort=rel

    • GlibWog

      Flagged Lurkness : ]

      • Lurkness

        Thanks!

      • Lurkness

        Are you still keeping it clear there Glib?

        • GlibWog

          Lurkness.. Help? I don’t know what you mean.

          This is my first time.. I flagged all of them.. Do I have to keep going back? I will of course.. I just don’t know what to do..

          but I am a fast learner..Baby

          • Aslansown

            I think you can’t flag them more than once since each flagging has to be from a different ISP, at least that’s my understanding.

          • Lurkness

            No you are doing great! My confusion probably, thought you were keeping it “clear” where you are, but maybe it was BTN who said not in CW anymore and not on her watch!

            • GlibWog

              I am positive it is all Bury’s fault.. No matter what! ha

              Thanks Lurkness

    • Room 101

      Flagged

      • Lurkness

        Thank you!

    • Eclipse-girl

      Did them already. TY for posting them again.

      • Lurkness

        A little defiant and resolute here. Thank you for your great work!

        • Eclipse-girl

          TY too.

        • Eclipse-girl

          jhm is a hero. I miss her , but understand that she is slaying elsewhere ; – )

          • Lurkness

            ;-)))

    • KJP in Portland

      Done again. Nail these. They’re still up. Hisssss…SPAMMED!

    • KJP in Portland

      Done again. Nail these. They’re still up. Hisssss…SPAMMED!

    • KJP in Portland

      Done again. Nail these. They’re still up. Hisssss…SPAMMED!

    • Lurkness

      Ok, because Diana still cannot help herself (although, so far, it is not near the 100 or so ads she posted in the last week or so), she has gone ahead and posted some 2nd ads for the day in multiple categories. The TOU are clear “A user may post the same or substantially similar content no more than once every 48 hours.” Also, “The same or substantially similar content may not be posted in more than one craigslist category”

      Also requesting the spam flagging because the sooner an ad is flagged, the faster it will come down. Collectively, here is what she and $cientology have up JUST in OC. (There are other rules that probably apply to their national, coordinated efforts, but I digress).

      http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/eee?catAbb=ccc&query=949.297.4446&zoomToPosting=&sort=rel

      http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/ccc?catAbb=eee&query=949.297.4446&zoomToPosting=&sort=rel

      http://orangecounty.craigslist.org/search/eee?catAbb=sss&query=949.297.4446&zoomToPosting=&sort=rel

      • Eclipse-girl

        TY. There were some new ones.

        • Lurkness

          Yep, when she went past the first ones today and added some more, figured we should now hit them and the rest that are still up. Was going to give a pass, but now I want total Clear, clearly. LOL.

          • Eclipse-girl

            Its great. I would like them all removed too.

          • Aslansown

            Clearing the craigslist planet!

      • Aslansown

        The irony of some of these is amazing, especially this one:

        Are you concerned about the lack of human rights?

        Concerned About Human Rights? Do you want to increase the population’s knowledge of human rights?

        Well, join us. We are advocates of human rights. We educate people on them, and help them figure out how to assert them without aggression.

    • Lurkness

      Moar down. AWESOME! Thank you all.

  • HelluvaHoax!

    Now there’s something that would be very good for the media to run with. How about a headline stating:

    SCIENTOLOGY DECLARES BELOVED ACTRESS TO BE EVIL LIKE ADOLPH HITLER!

    Then, articles can quote liberally from the HCOB “The Anti-Social Personality”, noting that Scientology’s paranoid rants (called “declares”) claim that “SPs” like Leah are criminals and mass murderers.

    “Well-known, even stellar, examples of such a personality are, of course, Napoleon and Hitler. Dillinger, Pretty Boy Floyd, Christie and other famous criminals were well-known examples of the antisocial personality. But with such a cast of characters in history we neglect the less stellar examples and do not perceive that such personalities exist in current life, very common, often undetected.” (L. Ron Hubbard)

    Rest of rant at: http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?21633-Top-100-Stupid-Moments-in-Scientology&p=881296&viewfull=1#post881296

    • DodoTheLaser

      Good one!

  • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

    The “secret” way to get a letter to Shelly, is to fake a family or famous celeb Scientologist letter to Shelly, and drop the letter off at the Larchmont P.O. Box business PO boxes for CST.

    CST staff receive their letters and parcels via the Larchmont street address PO Box relay business, I know, I took traffic from ASI to the Larchmont st PO Box business, in LA.

    Sorry, I don’t know the actual street address, but I suppose if I weren’t completely lazy, I’d look it up.

    Stefan Castle in the story in Janet Reitman’s book, tells how Stefan got a message to his wife at the Int Base.

    Same wise, a message could be gotten to Shelly, just tail the several LA region “Dir of Communications Officers” who travel to the Larchmont PO Box business, and see which PO Boxes the CST mail is placed within, and then send a letter to Shelly using that same PO Box.

    The Twin Peaks, or Lake Arrowhead CST site, where Shelly is, per John Brousseau (and John’s data IS to be believed!), so using the Larchmont PO Boxes for CST, is how to get physical mail to Shelly, and use the Stefan Castle level of smartness (read Janet Reitman’s book for the Stefan Castle smart method style).

    • Miss Tia

      And if you mail something via the USPS and they open it, and/or do NOT deliver it to her, it’s a violation of postal rules (USPS tweeted me back with a link). Even if someone signed something allowing them to open their mail—-there’s no legal validity and most of those agreements were signed when they were under 18. Plus, you cannot WITHHOLD mail from someone! I think we should all send Shelly holiday cards via the mail letting her know we are thinking of her.

      • Eclipse-girl

        That was my thought. GMTA

      • KJP in Portland

        I would send one. How about 500 Bunkeroos and Bunkerettes sending a card to her this year? Then, see if we could get USPS involved verifying that the cards were delivered. For a couple bucks extra, we could send our cards via certified mail with return receipt??? I wonder how CoB$ would get around that tactic?

        • Aslansown

          I think they’d have someone forge her signature.

        • Miss Tia

          GMTA!! :D i did just say delivery confirmation but uh, no coffee and Certified return receipt is like that—–similar!!!! :) we could do delivery confirmation….some could do certified delivery—-then SOMEONE would have to sign, meaning whomever picked up the mail would have to sign for it….tee hee! :) they could refuse/reject, but they’d be refusing/rejecting on HER behalf and we know it’s not HER doing that…..

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        Yes, sending innocuous holiday cards, is always good. Even if simple well meaning cards don’t reach her, the person who screens all the letters, who is likely the same lady that sits in the guard booth at the entrance to CST, the lady who was caught off guard when AGP filmed himself asking about Shelly, I remembered her name and posted it on AGPs video, but her name slips me, but she also, could be sent Holiday cards.

        In fact love bombing Arthur, Sara, Shelly, Kate (is the name of the lady at the booth I think), nice holiday cards to them all would have to be noted, at least in some of their minds!

        The world is watching and cares about them type of message is implied by cards!

        • Miss Tia

          Excellent idea love bombing others too!! If there’s one address or several we should use—like what address for who; I can make up a webpage and start posting that and spreading the word! (Stressing to keep the message innocuous!)

    • Eclipse-girl

      I am requesting that you look it up.

      If the cult can do love bombing, we can do letter love bombing.

      • Miss Tia

        Yes, please look it up! We can put out a mail call for respectful (meaning nothing attacking CO$) mail for Shelly! Just a card, postcard, note, etc saying she is missed, many people care about her and think about her and hope that she is okay.

        • Eclipse-girl

          I would not mention Co$.

          I would say that her friend Leah Remini is very concerned about her.

          That strangers are concerned about her well being.

          We hope she is eating well and has good (humane) living living conditions.

          • Miss Tia

            definitely don’t mention CO$, i wouldn’t even mention LR, since she was declared suppressive……

            i’ve said this before and i’ll say it again, i still think the red cross needs to go visit Shelly’s ‘prison’ AND ‘prison’ at gold base….they visit prisoners of war to ensure their conditions are safe and humane….yes i’ve tweeted them about it….i will do it again…..i think their conditions violate the geneva convention (which i will peruse in the morning for tweet fodder, possibly….. :) …..i mean i know they aren’t in/around a war zone, but they’re IN A PRISON!!!! some outside organization needs to check on them…..

            • Eclipse-girl

              Ok, No LR. Just that lots of people are thinking of here and missing her.

            • Miss Tia

              YEAH!!! ZERO reason for CO$ to ILLEGALLY withhold that! i’ll talk to my mailman to see if there’s anything we should do to ensure we can fully trace it, follow up with the USPS—i’m thinking getting delivery confirmation…….they’d scan it when it was delivered at the mail place but at least we’d know it was delivered there.

            • KJP in Portland

              You are on fire, Tia! Geneva Convention, at first thought, is a great idea, but they will probably wuss out and say they don’t get involved in clerical matters.

              I like the Red Cross idea too, but again, the Red Cross will probably have some half-ass excuse that they have no jurisdiction or legal premise to go check on people on church grounds.

              I would check FIRST to see what Scientology’s status is in Switzerland. If they are as unwelcome as, say, in Germany, France, Russia, etc., then there MIGHT be an opening to cite ‘international law’ to go check on all of them in Maggot’s ‘private prison’.

              Excellent brainstorming, Spitfire! <3

            • Miss Tia

              well i can’t imagine the RC doing anything anyway…..BUT if enough aide agencies, including the RC, amnesty international, et al hear about a PRIVATE PRISON and people held against their will in CALIFORNIA they might actually do something!!! i’ve even tweeted the CA department of corrections before too…..ding…..yeah…..again…..

              you know they’re violating the geneva convention….i’ve tweeted the UN as they’re violating the UN code of human rights too!! that their money laundering front group CCHR likes to toss around that they uphold and ‘protects’!

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        http://www.flickr.com/photos/13716306@N00/11080894103/

        http://www.flickr.com/photos/13716306@N00/11080894643/

        http://larchmontla.com/Services/Post-Office/village-mail-call-larchmont.html

        to the best of my memory, this is the public business PO Mailbox place, that I drove to, when as an ASI staffer, I relayed mail to CST staff.

        I believe this is one of the two public Mail Box businesses I used, the other is in another part of LA, up near Silverlake, and I didn’t look it also up.

        The Larchmont place in these two photos, is the main CST mail box business that gets all the letters and packages going to the CST staffers!

        Chuck

    • Seannie5

      Won’t all her mail be intercepted?

      • chuckbeattyexseaorg75to03

        If cleverly thought out, mail with suitable “cover” does slip through, ala the Stefan Castle technique, see Stefan Castle’s story in Janet Reitman’s book.

  • Sarah James

    What’s going on at radar online? Can’t post?

    • GlibWog

      Sarah.. I have been blocked for anything Scn.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        ???

        • GlibWog

          What..???

          Sarah and I post when Scn shit is posted.. and then it says..

          ” Waiting for Moderator ” and never gets posted! That’s it ..

          • Miss Tia

            They probably have certain words in their filter–like $cientology or something that trigger the moderation and it’ll get posted. Weird though that they do that!

            • Eclipse-girl

              So I was being clever without realizing it. I was upvoted By Sarah James.

          • marti

            Your comment will get posted. Just verify your e-mail address at radar-online.

            • GlibWog

              Really? I will check it out marti thank you

      • Sarah James

        Maybe we have been flagged? To death?

        • OrangySky

          I saw a comment of yours on there!

      • Sarah James

        My post is up, but will it stay?

      • OrangySky

        Why, Glib?

        • GlibWog

          Because I tell the truth about Scn.. and put the XSEAOrg number up.. I guess.. shit.. who knows..

          Maybe they don’t like babies with Cigs..

          • Sarah James

            Keep trying. My post is still up. :)

          • aquaclara

            sorry, Glib baby. They don’t know what they’re missing!

            • GlibWog

              Awwwwwwwwwwwwww Aqua..you are such a sweetheart..xo

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      ???!

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I’d guess that they’ve changed their Disqus settings to require each post being approved. I doubt they’re targeting anyone specifically, just anti-scn comments in general.

      • Captain Howdy

        I just looked at today’s article about this one and there’s comments from folks here and most of the comments are definitely anti-scn.

        I’m guessing they’ve blackballed certain people for being hooligans. ; )

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Oh damn. So GlibWog and Sarah must’ve really pissed someone off. Nice work

          • Captain Howdy

            I’m guessing they probably have Bury identified as being the leader.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Haha. She has been flagged as head hooligan.

            • Captain Howdy

              They have her photo at the front gate.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Tru-dat, Cap’n.!

        • Robert Eckert

          I made a bunch of remarks there. They don’t seem to know me as a hooligan yet.

          • OrangySky

            Your comments are great, Robert. I just added a couple myself.

          • MaxSpaceman

            Ah, but they soon will, RE, they soon will ~
            They will experience the wrath of the Hooligan Hellion!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Hooligans? Mercy!

      • Sarah James

        I guess it was glitch. Seems fine now.

  • Sarah James

    I wonder how much scientology money was spent to make us disappear from radaronline? I hope it came out of Tom cruise and krusty’s pockets.

  • gobsmackedby Scieno

    Huh! Does he think now that she is no longer dancing that the public will just forget about her.? He just keep letting genies out of bottles. Must be a declare-a-thon going on over there. My recently departed friends have been declared also.

    • Eclipse-girl

      perhaps he does. Did he not hear that she was cast in “The Exes?”

  • Observer

    Is it just me, or is Disqus suddenly different for everyone who’s here on a phone?

    • GlibWog

      Not on phone sweetie.. : /

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I dunno. Sorry.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      They rolled out a bunch of changes last week. Now we can watch embedded YouTube clips.

    • KJP in Portland

      Disqus on my smartphone is very tiny to read, so I constantly have to fiddle with enlarging the text. That itself drives me mad, so I spend 95% of my Bunker relaxation at my home computer. Maybe next year, I’ll finally spring for a laptop…EVERYONE ELSE in my family, kids included, have their own laptops. I guess I’m showing my old-geezerness…

      • MaxSpaceman

        uh, yeah-uh. Time to sPring for a laptop dude. It’s better for your overall lifestyle. { ;–>)

        • Sandy

          Believe it or not, we got a refurb ChromeBook on Ebay for $129 as a little backup just-in-case. It is wonderful!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Get a laptop and Samsung Galaxy S 4 smartphone.

        • Tory Christman

          And get the phone via Boost Mobile: $55/mo unlimited EVERYTHING.
          Also it’s piggy backed with SPRINT, so it’s a great line…month to month.
          If you pay on time, after so many months they knock off $5. I’m now down
          to $45/mo unlimited everything: Phone, Text, NET. :)

    • OrangySky

      At least it means Disqus is trying to get a format to WORK for smart phones and tablets.

      • Observer

        The problem is that you’re not notified if someone responded to you, and it’s hard to get from the story to the comments. And when you’re in the comments you can’t see the story and vice versa.

  • GlibWog

    ********* SECRETS OF SCIENTOLOGY ON TV******* 2011 John Sweeney and Mike Rinder.. WGCU

    I don’t know what channel that would be for you.. I think it’s public access…

    • Aslansown

      Seems to be just SW Florida — darn!

      • Eclipse-girl

        That doesn’t mean it wont be on Youtube within a day or two.

        • Aslansown

          Crossing my fingers!

        • Captain Howdy

          It’s been on YouTube like forever.

          http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkQdLTJWwo

          • Aslansown

            Thanks. Is this the one where Tommy and John Sweeney face off?

            • Captain Howdy

              Yes

            • Eclipse-girl

              No. that was in the 2007 Panorama special. (Scientology and ME) They do use the clip again.

              I would encourage everyone who watches Panorama AT THE BEGINNING to look at the old clips (from 2007) of Mike Rinder and then the new footage (2010 ?)

              In 2007, MR is thin. Maybe not quite emaciated or skeletal. But very thin. MR had been allowed out of the hole to deal with Mr Sweeney. Just after the 2007 interviews, MR blows.

            • Aslansown

              OK – thanks. I’ll watch it. I know this is an understatement of the highest magnitude but the Hole is so totally inhumane.

            • MaxSpaceman

              ‘Cept- “The Hole Does Not Exist.” !

            • Aslansown

              Oh yeah — I forgot about that!

            • GlibWog

              Horrifying.. to say the least E..

            • Aslansown

              Wow. He looks so gaunt and thin in the 2007 clip and finally looks healthy in 2010.

          • GlibWog

            Howdy.. I’m watching the one that was made after Mike and Marty got out.. .. Headleys..Amy Scobee etc. I’m sure that is on Youtube too..

            • Captain Howdy

              There’s “Secrets of Scientology” and the follow up “Scientology and Me”. Both on YT

            • GlibWog

              Good Howdy.. I have seen them both.. but it’s cool to see them on the bigger screen..

            • Eclipse-girl

              Scientology and Me came in 2007. Secrets of Scientology was the 2010 follow up

              Notice the physical changes in Mike Rinder. MR right after the 2007 Panorama filming.

            • Captain Howdy

              You are correct.

          • KJP in Portland

            I’ve not seen this particular clip…thank you for posting, Cap’n.

          • Tory Christman

            No matter how much I KNOW how weird it is when you’re “in”…I still can hardly believe
            how awful Mike Rinder looks as their “PR” and how fantastic he looks, now. What a difference!~ And BBC and John Sweeny: ***love** :) Thanks to all, Tory/Magoo

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          Hasn’t it been there for a while?

    • MaxSpaceman

      Would that be your local PBS affiliate station, or not, Baby ?

      • GlibWog

        Yeah.. It was from 10pm-11.. but Howdy said you can get it on Youtube Max ..

    • Tory Christman

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rJkQdLTJWwo

      Is this what you are looking for? Great show!
      Amazing to see how awful Mike looked as their “PR”
      and how great he looks now. Congratulations to ALL :)

  • KJP in Portland

    I got bumped off with “server error” for about 10 minutes. Gremlins.

    • OrangySky

      Me too!

      • KJP in Portland

        I hope that COB isn’t smart enough to hire any top-talent hackers. SO far, they haven’t been successful, but if he put his mind to it, we could suffer some outages. Thank God Tony and his people have pretty good IT security measures in place.

        • Tory Christman

          They hired top-talent hackers years ago in the 90′s….and my guess is they’re still paying them to do so. Just ftr.

    • Great White Clam

      Same here.

      It was a glitch in the matrix!

    • Casabeca

      Now that I got bumped 4 times, now I get it!

  • Charlotte

    Leah has been glowing lately. I never had much of an opinion on Jennifer Lopez, but she seems to be proving herself a true friend, so she gets a huge thumbs up from me now.
    Leah on The Exes with Kristen Johnston who has recently filmed a guest spot on KA’s show. Interesting. Kristen has proven on Twitter she’s unafraid to be outspoken about things, no matter how unpopular. I was hoping she’d take up the Co$ cause.

  • IBBy

    I’m playing around in the development lab for the card game Cards against Humanity, and this is what was dealt to me. Too funny not to share *refresh*

  • GlibWog

    OK just posted on Radar.. and it went through.. but it was short and sweet.. to see if it would go through..

  • SandiCorrena

    I didn’t get to see Leah on finale tonight; was she amazeballs? I know she wasn’t a finalist but who did win?

    • ThetaBara

      I lost interest when she was voted off, but you can stream the full episode on the ABC site. Just google the show name.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Can someone please let The Undeground Bunker know: What’s doin’ with The Hole Does Not Exist? Everything okay? Or what… it’s like missing one of the 4-star generals, whatever.

    • DodoTheLaser

      She is ok. Just taking a break. Dee is in touch with her.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Excellent. Thanks dude.

        It was the not knowingness that was bothering, is all.

        • DodoTheLaser

          :) I hear you. Hoping she will be back soon.

        • Lurkness

          She has posted occasionally recently, just gets lost in the many comments.

          • MaxSpaceman

            Oh good! Right, if she’s not making major posts, I’m not gonna catch it. Thanks, LurkN

            • Graham

              It would be good if there were some kind of search facility on Disqus, so one can search for a particular poster or key word.

            • DodoTheLaser

              You can click on any poster’s pic and choose to follow them.

              That way any time you click on your own pic in future, you can see
              who you following (and who follows you), click them and see their posts.

            • Graham

              Thank you!

            • stillgrace2

              If your computer has the capacity to display all 1000+ comments at once, you can search for a key word with ctrl-f on Windows or command-f on Mac. I search all the time.

            • Graham

              Wow! Thanks. It works!

              (You can tell I’m not a $cientologist ‘cos I didn’t say WOW!!!!! WOW!!!!! WOW!!!! That’s just CRAZY!!!!!! THE GREATEST cognition since my last cognition!!!!!! I’m speechless with excitement about this!!!! Like- well- just WOW!!!!!)

            • Eclipse-girl

              If you can find one of her posts, you can follow her, if her comments are not private.

  • Bella Legosi

    Good for Leah. Now she can continue to move on!

    I LOVED seeing her whole family cheer her on TV!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Haha! So OT III is cancelled now?

    • Tory Christman

      You can go to XENU (dot) Net http://www.xenu.net and see for yourself. Just type in “OT 3″ and read what L Ron Hubbard had to say about it, in his own handwriting. Really $cientology? You’re SO far from ‘truth’ …you forget to word clear the word. :)

      • Tory Christman
        • DodoTheLaser

          BAM! Thanks, Tory!

          Lying liars that lie.

          • Graham

            Liars often have some private justification which makes their lie not really a lie, in their eyes at least.

            I suspect the twisted logic might be: $cientologists don’t get told about the space cooties until they reach the more expensive- sorry, the more advanced- levels. Therefore the bulk of $cientologists don’t actually believe in aliens. Thus $cientologists don’t believe in aliens, until they do believe in aliens (By which time you don’t have the f*cking rank to ask what they believe, so whatever they believe is no concern or yours).

            Presumably if you asked a ground-level grunt $cientologist they almost certainly either have not heard of Xenu or would desperately pretend they’d never heard of him, for fear of catching pneumonia (Or the back of Slappy’s hand)?

            • DodoTheLaser

              Yes. It only makes sense to lie about your believes (when you are in) for the sake of others well being. Accept the lies and then lie about them. Pretty fucked up situation.
              It’s really, really nice to be out.

        • MaxSpaceman

          OT3. From Tory C posted link:
          – “How do you know this was actually written by L. Ron Hubbard?
          The document was authenticated by Helena Kobrin, lawyer for Religious Technology Center, in a letter sent to Carnegie Mellon’s legal counsel on January 24, 1997. Her assistance is much appreciated.”

    • Sydjazz

      The internet fringe. They love that term lol

      • DodoTheLaser

        Yeah. It’s rather telling re: how much RTC understands how the Internet works.

    • http://www.tingleff.org/jensting/muslinger/ Jens TINGLEFF

      Not “descended from.” Of course not. Infested with the ghosts of? Why, yes, but we’d have to bill you a quarter of a million to tell you about it.
      Useless sophistry, which only shows them up as lying liars who lie. The only mode of expression for David “he is NOT insane!” Miscavige

  • MaxSpaceman

    Posted by Anonymous. 2 days ago. Reponse to analysis posted by Vistaril.

    – Here’s the link to the article featuring L. Ron Hubbard Jr. talking about his father:

    http://www.lermanet.com/scient
    – The pattern of fraud that L. Ron Hubbard Jr. described in this 1982 article is STILL in operation today.

    The pattern is – The Long Con.

    – The long con refers to a variety of cons which require more planning, preparation, a longer window of interaction with the con’s target and a longer period of time to execute.

    – The long con requires a large number of involved people to pull off the deception needed to relieve the mark (the scientologist) of their cash or other valuables (such as the peson’s life, SeaOrg’ers, in their 100 hr per week slavish labor 365 days per year).

    – The long con requires time to slowly draw the mark (the scientologist) into the con, but often results in very large pay-outs. Because of the difficulty in organization and execution, long cons are considered to be for experts, not the province of new, young con men.

    Long cons play on one or both basic human frailties: (1) desperation and (2) greed. Contemporary long cons involve multiple marks (the scientologists), often in sizable numbers, and a gradual payout, but are able to stay in place for long periods of time because of their seeming legitimacy. The line between a genuine long con and garden variety fraud may be a fine one, such as in the case of Bernard Madoff’s elaborate security fraud.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “Scientology is a slow-motion fraud.” ~ Vistaril.

      Snip from this brilliant post of his: http://tonyortega.org/2013/11/24/jenna-miscavige-hill-on-scientologys-new-dawn-i-cant-believe-people-still-buy-this-bs/#comment-1136946527

      “L Ron Hubbard was the master of “discovery”. The “discovery” of
      Dianetics promised a sure-fire, easy-peasy cure for all ills. Didn’t
      work. When it was pointed out in no uncertain terms that Dianetics was
      rubbish and he ended up losing the rights to it, L Ron Hubbard
      “discovered” a few extra Dynamics and – hey presto – Scientology was
      born. In the early days it was all about “Creative Processing”, the idea
      being that if a Thetan can consciously mock up what it was mocking up
      compulsively then all aberrations would resolve. Didn’t work. Around
      1965, L Ron Hubbard “discovered” the tech for his “Clearing Course”.
      This was the final level where one handled the bank. After this, there
      was no more bank. The announcement was made that Clears only needed to
      run Route One drills so as to familiarize themselves with their OT
      abilities – abilities which had been liberated by reason of having
      become Clear. Didn’t work. A short time later, Hubbard came out with OT
      2. This explained why people could not do Route One after the Clearing
      Course. There was more Bank to run after the Clearing Course. Didn’t
      work. Then, a while later, Hubbard came out with Xenu and OT 3. This
      explained why people were not becoming OT after having done OT 2, etc.
      Didn’t work. Then came the various (old) upper OT levels 4 – 7. OT 7 was
      released in the early 1970s. Didn’t work. Around this time, the L’s
      (the fabulous OT Boosters) were also released to much excitement. Didn’t
      work. About ten years after the 1967/68 “discovery” of OT 3, Hubbard
      announced more “discoveries.” One of these was that OT 3 was not the
      final “Wall of Fire,” and that there was another “Wall of Fire” (more
      stuff, more Case, more Bank, More BTs, to handle) and that this
      explained why people were not making the expected gains and becoming OT.
      Didn’t work. Then came NOTs. Didn’t work.”

  • Funnybroad

    I’m being suppressed!

    • DodoTheLaser

      Ha!

    • Barbara Angel

      Oh well you’ll get over it, like we all did/do. I count myself lucky that I’m not a member of $cos, because that’s real SUPPRESSION. In that weird CULT you are not even allowed to have one single thought of your own. Apparently you get Sec checked on a regular basis, in case you should actually “think for yourself”. Nothing and I mean Nothing feels as good as the FREEDOM to think; feel, love, read, hug, do exactly as you wish. Only two simple rules….. Leave a trail of Good and try to do no Harm.

  • Sydjazz

    Yay leah. Wave that golden piece of paper loud and proud.

    • DodoTheLaser

      I bet they didn’t give it to her though.

      I would be surprised If it even exist in a printed version.
      They would hate it to be leaked.

      • ClamInAHalfshell

        Demand that goldenrod baby!

  • Mr. Fabulous

    Leah needs to get herself on every available chat show and start waving that Goldenrod around.

  • FromPolandWithLove

    Brace Yourselfs New Article time is coming….

  • gobsmackedby Scieno

    I think my brain just hit maximum on reading anymore about the past of Hubs, the foundational theses of his mad hatters thetan party, his sadism and brute human behaviour. It’s quite an awful mental place to dwell.The case is clear. Irrefutable. He was nucking futs. What drives my interest and desire to help is the present day entrapment of the innocents. Never having been in, I feel no heated passion toward MrMis. Other than the obvious interest in exposing an economic criminal and sociopathic cult leader who sells a line of bs that stunts young minds, regresses addictions, actively deprives and hurts children, it ain’t personal. And even though I am not a US tax-payer it burns me as a citoyen of the tax paying world that such a kick in the face to decent people could continue when (some) American tax payers are suffering so much from cut backs joblessness etc.
    Would it be a good idea for one of you younger computer smarties to start a petition on that site that allows that? Carefully worded, legally sound. Shine a light on that dark situation?

  • NoMoreVisitsPlease

    I’m wondering if being declared an sp is the best way to get off their mailing list…do they do a good job of removing sp’s from the mailing list? I would love to stop the daily mailings coming to my husband who is no longer active with Scientology in any way…no friends in or anything…

    Even my EX husband is receiving phone calls looking for my current husband…hoping to get him back on “the bridge to total freedom” hahahahaha LMFAO.

    If it IS a good way to get off, what is the best way to get declared? Is it enough to send in the Xenu story with disparaging remarks about LRH and Miscavige enough?

    • ClamInAHalfshell

      Maybe you and he could try going to an Anonymous protest…or show up with signs at Clearwater…Maybe a great big sign saying “Declare Me Please, I Want To Get Off Your Mailing List.”

    • http://www.tempeteaparty.org Lee Reynolds

      Sending you mail costs $$$$ for which they get zero return.

      Calling you or others costs time that the cult would otherwise be spending making victims of vulnerable individuals.

      Getting garbage in your mailbox from these cretins is annoying, but silently sending their nonsense to the landfill is an easy way to be a drain on their resources without having to actually do anything.

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  • LindaFromNewYork

    How long before there is a “who is…” hate website about her???