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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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LIVE OVER CLEARWATER: Watching Scientology from an Eye in the Sky

HelicopterApocalypseA helicopter just lifted off carrying former Church of Scientology members Mike Bennitt and Mike Rinder, who are headed for downtown Clearwater to film and report on Scientology’s big Super Power Building opening today.

Bennitt’s carrying a couple of different cameras for filming and still shots, and after they touch down in a couple of hours, we’ll start posting images here that he brings back.

In the mean time, we’ve asked Rinder to send us live updates of how the shoot is going, and give us his impression of how many Scientologists are actually in the streets for this event. This should be fun!

Bennitt is a man of means who has suddenly come on the scene in the last few months. He was in New Braunfels, Texas to film a couple of the hearings in Monique Rathbun’s lawsuit, and he was with us in Tampa for the Garcia lawsuit hearing in October. And now he’s rented a helicopter to cover today’s 1 pm grand opening of the Super Power Building.

Rinder is Scientology’s top former spokesman, and he lives near Clearwater. At his blog yesterday Rinder gave us more detail about what the new “Golden Age of Technology Phase II” is about. Now that we’ve plowed through the lingo, our impression is that Scientology leader David Miscavige has done for the Bridge — Scientology’s courses and their manuals — what he did for L. Ron Hubbard’s books a few years ago. In 2007, Miscavige announced that he had republished Hubbard’s “Basics” after cleaning them up and putting them in glossy new packaging. Church members were then pressured to purchase multiple sets of the books and lectures, at $3,000 per set.

Now, according to Rinder, Miscavige has done something similar with course materials that govern Scientology’s many classes and levels that a member goes through on the “Bridge to Total Freedom,” and specifically for training to become an auditor.

“Apparently, if you tweak a checksheet and make a new course pack cover, it’s a ‘brand new’ course. Of course it also means they have to be bought. Can’t use anything ‘old.’ Every org, every student. Lot of cash going to be rolling in,” Rinder writes.

But how many people have rolled into town for today’s big event? After 15 years, the Super Power Building is finally opening up. Way back in January 2012 while at the Village Voice we leaked the full set of schematics and renderings for the entire seven-floor building. If you haven’t already taken the virtual tour there, you really should.

We’ve noticed that some newspapers are reporting Scientology’s hilarious claim that this city-block-sized monster cost $45 million to build. As the Tampa Bay Times has pointed out, they believe the church raised more like $145 million for it. And we think that’s too conservative. Our sources have convinced us that at least $200 million was raised for the Super Power Building, and that’s the figure we use.

Well, we’re looking forward to hearing from Bennitt and Rinder. And as we get reports from them, we’ll post them in the live updates below.

 
MikesHeli

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on November 17, 2013 at 12:30

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LIVE UPDATES WILL APPEAR BELOW HERE

12:39 pm

Here comes photo #1 from Rinder…

 
Clearwater OH0

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12:45 pm

Just heard from Mark Bunker, who is on the scene — he sees the helicopter! He had no idea it had Rinder and Bennitt in it.

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12:46 pm

Rinder: “Crowd looks to me to be about 2,500 to 3,000. Ain’t 10,000 by any measure, unless you’re guzzling Kool-Aid. More people are arriving, though. Another chopper just showed up.”

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12:47 pm

Here comes photo #2…

 ClearwaterOH1

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12:49 pm

Just heard from Brandon Ogborn. He pointed out that Bert Fields not only showed up and enjoyed The TomKat Project, but he led the standing ovation at the end!

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12:53 pm

Photo #3 from Rinder…

 
ClearwaterOH2

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12:55 pm

Just heard from Bunker. He says the two helicopters are LOUD. Is Miscavige going to have a hard time being heard?

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12:56 pm

Another photo from Rinder…

 
ClearwaterOH3

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12:57 pm

Rinder: “The other chopper is the ‘official’ one for church photographers, and they’re telling us that speakers are going to be talking at 1:00 pm. We are ‘advised’ to pull off for 15 minutes. We will then have unimpeded airspace.”

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12:58 pm

Rinder: “At 12:55 my estimate is no more than 5,000 people, but someone can more accurately estimate when our high-definition zoom shots are available.”

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1:04 pm

I asked Rinder if they were going to pull away as the church asked: “No way. New chopper now added.”

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1:06 pm

Rinder: “Miscavige is talking.”

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1:07 pm

Next photo from Rinder…

 
ClearwaterOH4

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1:08 pm

Says Rinder: “Ribbon just cut. Nobody appears injured by falling bunting.”

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1:10 pm

Rinder: “Front row whales being let in. Everyone else has to wait.”

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1:11 pm

Nice full shot of the crowd…

 
ClearwaterOH5

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1:11 pm

Rinder: “Plebes now being let in.”

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1:12 pm

Rinder: “Sea Org members heading back to the salt mines.”

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1:15 pm

The guys are heading back. Once Mike Bennitt has a chance, he’ll be sending us hi-def photos and VIDEO. We’ll get those up as soon as we can!

Woo-hoo! Thank you Mike Bennitt and Mike Rinder!

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1:19 pm

Meanwhile, this is what it was like on the ground for Mark Bunker, who was kept far away from the event…

 
ClearwaterBunker

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1:29 pm

We asked Rinder if the extreme brevity of the ceremony had something to do with the noise from the helicopters. “I hope so. More likely because Miscavige was afraid of being recorded. Plus he already spent 2 hours talking about it last night!”

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1:48 pm

Just sayin’…

 
TBTvTUB

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2:23 pm

Hey, I just noticed something looking at the photos again — did the church pull down the street signals after all? UPDATE: No, it looks like all signal poles are accounted for.

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2:47 pm

Gentle ribbing aside, our regular readers know how much we hold the Tampa Bay Times in high esteem.

And this is rotten. An hour and a half after the event, Charlie Frago still can’t get near the Super Power Building.

Let our man in Clearwater in!

 
Frago1

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3:06 pm

Here’s the corner I’m talking about, the SE corner of Ft. Harrison and Pierce. You can see the air bridge below. This is a Google satellite view. So it looks like they took out a palm tree, but I’m wondering about the light pole as well. I don’t see it in our helicopter shots. Just wondering. May not be a big deal.

 
FtHarrisonPierce

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3:21 pm

Childs and Frago are saying Tom Cruise, John Travolta, and Kelly Preston were there today.

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3:26 pm

The funny thing is, shouldn’t the Tampa Bay Times also report that former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder flew in a helicopter today to take photos of the event, and that his presence and the noise it created might have shortened the event? I mean, isn’t that news, guys?

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3:34 pm

VIDEO COMING SOON…

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3:46 pm

Ha. Rinder just pointed out something to me from the TB Times lede today: “Actors Tom Cruise, John Travolta and Kelly Preston joined hundreds of other Scientologists today as a massive building church members call their ‘cathedral’ was dedicated in downtown Clearwater.”

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3:55 pm

I want to put Jefferson Hawkins’ comment here so everyone can see it. Hawkins was once the top marketing man for Scientology and knows what he’s talking about, especially about events.

Epic Fail doesn’t even begin to cover it. That the “fastest growing religion in the world” with “millions of members” was only able to muster up 3000 people for “the most important event in the history of the galaxy” says it all. And probably half of those are staff and student trainees who were already there. They have been claiming for years that there are “10,000 Scientologists in Clearwater.” Guess they all stayed home.

Then, Mike Rinder shows up in a freakin’ helicopter! The pathetic turnout is going to be filmed for all to see! So Miscavige panics. He cuts short what was probably going to be a one hour Dan Sherman special, axes any other speakers, cuts to the ribbon ceremony, and rabbits out of there in eight minutes flat!

Now you can bet he’s hunkered down in his office, screaming at everyone, RPFing a number of people, and beating on others. His big moment, opening the Superpower building after a 15-year buildup, has turned into a stinking disaster! I would really hate to be anywhere in his vicinity right now, and I’m sure his staff are thinking the same thing about now.

There is no way it was planned to be only eight minutes. No way.

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4:11 pm

Some more details from Rinder: we asked if he’d felt all right with all that activity in the chopper. He said he’d felt fine — he’s been on a lot of helicopter rides.

He said that when the second helicopter showed up, his pilot had radioed to ask what its plans were. And got no response. He tried again. Nothing. Finally, the other helicopter radioed back, saying that it was working for the church, would circle at 750 feet, and wanted Rinder’s pilot to know that speakers were talking at 1 pm. They asked Rinder’s pilot to move away for 15 minutes.

Rinder’s pilot asked, “Are we moving anywhere?”

Rinder then answered with a choice Anglo-Saxon curse word. They didn’t budge.

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4:26 pm

Just heard from Bennitt. Hopefully getting that video link soon, plus high-resolution photos.

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4:42 pm

And here’s the video.

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4:50 pm

Busted…

 
Extras

 
Our tipster says this was very close to the Super Power Building.

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5:08 pm

And until something clearer emerges, here’s what it sounded like from the position of one of our tipsters on the ground. You can hear the helicopters!

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7:08 pm

Mike Bennitt has his photos up at his Flickr account, you can see them here.

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  • aquaclara

    The Exras parking sign is right up front where the event was held tonight. You have an image of the left-hand side ramp up in front of the new flag sign at Davey’s speech corner.

    • Verve

      Pathetic.

  • WhereIsSHE

    Over 30,000 people–and not REPEAT customers–typically attend the Philadelphia Flower Show– EVERY DAY of the week, for 7 days in a row.
    The last 3 years? It’s around 250,000+ new visitors. To see FLOWERS.
    A good percentage FLY IN and stay in hotels, eat at restaurants, etc.
    It is a HUGE economic boost for the city and area locations.
    No religion.
    No begging.
    No regging.
    Just… flowers… and landscaping displays (koi ponds, for example).
    It’s magnificent, and I have no doubt that if they were to call an impromptu gathering of the THOUSANDS who are in the convention center at any given moment, they could simply announce free tickets to next year’s show and raise a rousing round of cheers that would easily rival (and surpass) the [forced] cheering outside of the SP bldg today.
    FLOWERS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    WOoooooooooooosHoooooooooooooooooooooo~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Did you see the PETALS?~!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    How about the STEMS?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    They are going to REARRANGE the flower so that the stems are on the END and the petals are at the base!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! (and many years from now, it will be announced that the petals always belonged where they were to begin with, as did the stems, and heads (who had nothing to do with the rearranging, shhhhhhhh) will ROLL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! and we will have FLOWERS as they were INTENDED TO BE, and we will all have the ability to GROW THEM WITH OUR MINDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It is sooooooooooooooo exciting!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    I dug in the soil pots until my hands were bleeding!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    And no… that is NOT all!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    Many were digging and planting until they had BLISTERS, OOZING PUSS, on top of the old sores that were BLEEDING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!YAY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Verve

      Before the scandal, Penn State averaged 105,000+ fans in the stands for every home game. It became the 3rd largest city in Pennsylvania on home game weekends. 8 times a year for decades. But hey, the “most important event in the galaxy ever managed 5,000 people. Woo hoo” Bahahhahahaha.

    • aquaclara

      And the Philadelphia Flower Show is a world-class event that attracts loyal, repeat visitors every year. Nice apt and fun analogy, WhereIsShe….

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      That is some impressive “Exclamation Point tech”…………..
      can i come stay in yer spare room?

      ya damn weirdo!!!!!!

      :-)

      • And I don’t rent cars!

        Don’t be so damned impressed BTN. She simply has a sticky ! key – ust like my key, it rarely works now. ;-)
        Makes it kinda hard to write to ohn P.
        If you’re moving into WIS’ spare room, I’m making reservation for her sofa/bed. I prefer my BFF’s to be damn weirdoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          lol

      • WhereIsSHE

        ANYTIME=)

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      As Aquaclara just said, “Nice apt and fun analogy”, WIS. Great data to use for comparison purposes. Sure helps to put today “SP” Building opening in perspective. Thanks!

    • aegerprimo

      Exclamation Point Tech is SOOOO yesterday! ;)

    • Eclipse-girl

      Now I want to go.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Wow, you must be REALLY into gardening.

      • Barbara Angel

        Jimmy I hope WhereIsSHE hasn’t been getting high by sniffing the dung? Bit of a strange post WhereIsSHE but am a fan of yours anyway, so no offence meant. xoxoxo

  • NOLAGirl

    *tapping my glass* CLINK CLINK!!!

    I’d like to make a toast:

    To Tony O, Mike & Mike, Wise Beard Man and all the other people on the ground who provided pictures and everyone in The Bunker. I’m proud to know such an amazing group of wonderful, dedicated, courageous people. There isn’t a finer group of people anywhere and I’m honored to count myself as a supporter of this very just cause.

    May the generous Wog God’s continue to bless this incredible group. Salute!!

    • Ruby

      Cheers!

      • aquaclara

        And more cheers! HELICOPTER TECH at its best. Mikes R and B helicoptering in, with WBM on Ground Payrol and Tony O at the Flight Deck-this is better than Santa’s arrival on hi sleigh.

        Can you believe this day!?!?

    • IBBy

      I’ll raise to that!

    • Qbird

      standing with you NOLAGirl ~ cheers!

      http://youtu.be/Us-TVg40ExM

  • jmh

    That ‘Extras parking’ sign is a thing of magnanimous beauty. BWAHAHAHAA!!!! Epic!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Another scene from the street today, a few blocks away from Flag…

    • aquaclara

      Zombies ahead….this is lovely!

    • KJP in Portland

      Class A prank. I love it!

      • Suppressive Tomato

        Just so there’s no misunderstoods, I just grabbed this off of El Google. Wasn’t from today’s Flag extravaganza. Sorry if that’s a disappointment KJP!

      • Guest

        was this for real or is it a shoop? I can’t tell

    • valshifter

      was this for real or was it a shoop, I cant tell

  • pronoia

    Heya everyone, it is my bday today so there was no way I was to be allowed to hang out on the fringes of the Internet where it is guaranteed there were a lot more people than manged to turn up in Clearwater.

    And what is up with Bert Fields? His star client leaves town to attend participate in the Haj in the scilon Mecca and he goes to some fringe SP thester troup and gives them a standing O? Is he trying to demonstrate by example how to “handle” upsets?

    • GSioux

      Bert Fields – he must show us (the world) he is an actor. Maybe he needs to be sure his clients see – as in the media- that also. It wasn’t a random evening out for the guy!

    • Miss Tia

      Happy Birthday!!

    • KJP in Portland

      Happiest of Birthdays to you!

    • Eclipse-girl

      Happy Birthday

    • Semper Phi

      Happy birthday!

    • Missionary Kid

      I was there last night, didn’t know who he was or notice him, but the play doesn’t treat him all that kindly for the most part. The twist in the plot does give a different perspective.

      He probably loved that his name was used.

    • Aslansown

      That was probably the most surprising thing I’ve read in a LONG time! He’s written such hateful things and yet he goes to the play and gives it a standing ovation.

  • PreferToBeAnon2

    Just wanted to say hello and to thank everyone for all of the great coverage and comments! Wish I could stay to snark and snack, but must run… Love ya’ll

  • nottrue

    Please young Sea Org members dont give your youth to DM. Youth is so precious and once lost can never be regained

    • Sarah James

      And please do not give your health, they do not stand by you when it’s gone.

      • Frank

        Why do all old so members blow or route out?

        • Miss Tia

          I thought they dumped them in a hotel or left them at a bus station. It’s despicable.

          • Frank

            They have mobile homes in horrid conditions that they are off-loaded to that is what happens at the Int Base and other locations. No one can die onsite.

        • Sarah James

          They know they will be disguarded, shoved into a nurseing home, blamed for getting sick.

  • Frank

    Thanks to Mike Rinder, Mike Bennitt & of course Tony Ortega.
    As it now stands Tony Ortega is the only journalist in the World telling the truth hopefully this will change in the future.
    Applause for Mike Bennitt & Mike Rinder your courage along with Tony’s reporting is of the up most importance.

    • Barbara Angel

      Ditto x One Million. I am so deeply GRATEFUL to the two Mikes, ****THANK YOU SO MUCH GUYS****. From your greatest fan. B.A. xoxoxoxoxoxoxoxox

  • KJP in Portland

    In Mike Bennett’s Flickr page; those photos look like only about 1,200-1,500 outside. Wish I was there to count, laugh, and count some more.

    What a really, truly really POOR turnout for the greatest thing ever to happen on Earth!

    • Charlotte

      Nah, the turnout was spectacular….in The Bunker

      • KJP in Portland

        MORE people came to the Bunker today than showed up at Davey’s Little Project!

        You’re on the run from here forward David. You better get a head start to your ‘boat’ and get while the going is good!

        2014: The year that the US Federal Government shuts your cult down for good.

        • Barbara Angel

          Yay, hope you are not baiting me KJP. Its my DREAM to see those lazy governmental shits get off their arse and SHUT down the CULT!

    • Barbara Angel

      Yes but how many of them could actually move??? I’m sure they were store mannequins. [Or in Aus we call them 'shop dummies']. I’m sure they rented a few truck loads and all the $cieon’s were allocated a ‘mannequin’ as a ‘date’, they had to hold them up so Dildo Davey didn’t know that no one could afford to come, they’ve got NO Moneeeeeeeeeeeee left.

    • Miss Tia

      you can look at those pix original size and REALLY see up close, I suppose we could apply ‘counting tech’….

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Can’t wait to see the RTC-approved Standard Photoshop Tech press release photos!

      • Semper Phi

        We just have to wait for the next Impact magazine. I might actually look at that one.

  • Sam Domingo

    Snapped from the comments section in the Tampa Bay Times – it’s OK to gloat Tony :D

    • L. C. Spencer

      *snicker* Poor dear Charlie Frago will have to register as a Bunkerite soon at this rate…

  • Ruby

    Just heard…trainees leave tomorrow.

    • Semper Phi

      Yeah, my FB feed is full of OOTs saying their goodbyes, friending each other, and going on about how fabulously exciting it all is.

    • Eclipse-girl

      finally. they are free.

      • Semper Phi

        Free from Flag, maybe, but now they have to go home and BOOM their empty orgs. It’s a different sort of hell.

        • Barbara Angel

          Ummmh I think you mean BOOM the morgues?

        • Eclipse-girl

          haven’t these people been paying up the wazoo for staying at Flag until this event finished?

          Do you think some might have some doubt?

          Maybe some will walk?

          • Semper Phi

            The OOTs don’t pay for their training and housing (it they stay in the base student housing), though they do have to uproot their lives and leave their jobs and families to be at Flag for all that time. Their orgs are supposed to pay for their room & board and training, though they mostly just run a tab.

            I have been watching these folks that I trained with 3 years ago, and the ones that went to Flag for GAT 2 were the True Believers. I have given up hope that they are going to walk anytime soon. Most of them have ltheir whole families still in, so they live inside the bubble with tons of positive reinforcement for the crazy. That being said, I have to believe that at least some of them will notice and begin to doubt when GAT 2 doesn’t really change anything and make the big impact on the world (or even their orgs).

            • Eclipse-girl

              TY for explaining the payment system. Do the orgs have the money to pay for staff?

              I am sorry that you still have people you care about who are still in.

            • Semper Phi

              No, the orgs don’t pay their bills. And since I left staff before completing my contract, Flag is now coming after me for the $50,000+ bill for my training. But I haven’t heard from them since September, when I wrote back to tell them I’m not going to pay their enforceable “freeloader” debt and including the 866-XSEAORG phone number.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Thanks be therefore to Chuck Beatty for the phone #, eh?

      • Aslansown

        What about the other two events? Isn’t one of them next weekend?

        Who is expected to show up for those?

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe that it will be interesting to see what their reaction will be when they get to their orgs and see fewer clams at events than what there were when they left.

      • Ruby

        It will be a rude awakening.

  • L. C. Spencer

    Am wading joyfully thru MB’s Flickr folders now. Amazing quality. Hey, is anybody else finding that some of the photos are just solid black? Have refreshed, no change. Just me?

    • MaxSpaceman

      nope. lotsa shots are black.

    • Miss Tia

      Same with me—I think there was like 3 of them like that.

    • Barbara Angel

      No, mine are fine. Could just be your ISP? (internet service provider) too many abbreviations on this site sometimes for me, so I’ve clarified ISP. lol

    • EnthralledObserver

      I couldn’t see any of them… some little monkey inverted the colours on my computer and despite undoing what he did, it won’t change back for some reason… so I think that is to blame but not sure. I see other photos at other sites.

      • Candygram

        Speaking of monkeys, has monkey knickers had hew wee ones yet?

    • Hara

      Several are black

      • N. Graham

        Some black, the rest ok.

  • Suppressive Tomato

    I feel so embarrassed for COB, and I know today’s total disaster restimmed some heavy locks, secondaries and engrams for him, so I developed this totally on-Source Clay Demo drill he can do to blow some charge. This is to be followed up with, “Where would a helicopter be safe?” until floating needle and cognition.

    • Candygram

      Oh. Emm. Gee. Even as a never-in, I get it. Hilarious!

  • Sunny Sands

    Bennitt’s Flickr pics are amazing in detail. The one pic showing the tent and the labyrinth around it shows a lot of detail. The pic clearly shows a fourth large tent that was put up in the street on Garden Ave.

    • Elen

      They are amazing Sunny… but what can I say? I am partial to your pics & arrows!! ;-)

  • Idrathernot

    So FUNNY story. With all this commotion about the building opening, how amazing it was/ supposed to be. It came as a shock to me that I received a call from Flag tonight. She tells me that a few years back I asked to be taken off the mail and phone calls list and to not be contacted again. My response..
    “Then why are you calling me?”
    She says that she wants to try to “handle” why I am upset. I say to her..
    ” Listen, I didn’t want to work it out 4 years ago when I told you to stop calling me. I didn’t want to work it out 8 months ago when LA called me and I told them to NEVER EVER EVERRRRR call me again. I’m certainly not working anything out now. ”
    She tells me ” I got it. I just would like to know what happened, and how we can fix it”
    To which I tell her :
    ” I tell you what, you gather up all your little minions, and head down to the Clearwater police department and turn yourselves in for the disgustingly long list of crimes that are committed by your organization EVERY SINGLE DAY.”
    (Insert giggling from husband driving with me)
    ” Then, I want you to grab your dictionary, and find the word NEVER in there.”
    ( mild eruptions of laughter from husband)
    ” THEN.. I want you to clear that word. Demo it, use it in a sentence. Get your e-meter and make sure said word is TOTALLY clear. Be 100% that you fully understand the definition of the word NEVER”
    (hysterical laughter from husband, who is threatening needing to pull over so he can cry laughing)
    ” Because apparently there is an MU there.. because for some unknown reason ya’lls dumb asses can’t get it through your skull.. when I say NEVER CALL ME EVER AGAIN.. that I truly mean. STOP FUCKING CALLING ME.. NOW START!” -click-
    (Insert a high 5 from my husband who wipes his tears and says ” I love watching you work”)
    I really hope she calls back.

    • Barbara Angel

      WOW, poor Kool-Aid drinkers are Soooooooooo Desperate…. They need to get the numbers up NOW…or else they are going to get a kicking. Sigh…..

      • Idrathernot

        She was still rambling on when I hung up on her. They will call me again in about 8 months and I get to make fun of them again.

        • Barbara Angel

          Poor bastards, they would rather risk you dear one, than getting a ‘Kicking’ for Not Trying to get Moare suckers in.

          • Idrathernot

            You know honestly, I would consider action against them but its WAY too much fun to poke the bear when they call. It’s like eating something new and delicious for the first time, I start grinning like a crazy person I get so excited.

            • Qbird

              good on you you little squirrel you…

        • MO Mom

          They are thinking: Never Ever Going to Give You Up
          You are saying: We Are Never Ever Getting Back Together

    • NOLAGirl

      BOOM!!!! Hammer dropped. Loving that post!!!

    • Semper Phi

      You weren’t by any chance a course supervisor, were you? … Now START! LOL Next time they call, you should give them a FLUNK!

      • Idrathernot

        Ohhhh good material. And I shall use that next time! But no, I wasn’t, I was just tortured with hundreds of hours of course study 7 days a week as a kid.

        • Semper Phi

          Ah, well that would explain your fluency in supervisor-speak. Next time, give them a “Flunk! Failure to duplicate my comm!” and tell them to go to Qual for cramming.

    • Candygram

      Is it weird that, starting halfway thru your story, my mind started adding a cape and other superhero accoutrements to you and your hilarious husband? I hope he doesn’t mind being the sidekick :)

    • SandiCorrena

      That’s BEAUTIFUL!!!

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Welcome to the club. I get those calls too.

  • HanniballtheFirst

    Fun Fact:
    NFL
    Average Attendance per game
    68,531
    Average Attendance per game day
    1,096,496
    History making, planet changing new Universes opening event of the fastest growing Religion that has the answers to all questions for all of mankind Attendance:
    3,750 (estimated)
    Somebody must have forgotten to tell anybody…..

    • NOLAGirl

      Truth!! There are still more people partying outside the SuperDome right now than there were in Clearwater at Stupid Power.

    • Mooser

      “3,750 (estimated)”

      Gosh Mr. Hannibal, history has wronged you. You’re actually a very generous guy.

    • Barbara Angel

      Brouhahahahahahahahahaha Naaaah they were fucked around for months and weeks and NOT given a dates and who has any Moneeeeeeeeeee left to attend anyway?????

    • Missionary Kid

      And there was no tailgating.

    • edge

      The last home game by the non-religious, non-planet-saving Tampa Bay Lightning was Nov. 14, and that drew a crowd of 17,763. So far this season, the Lightning average 18,187 to the Tampa Bay Times forum Hockey’s certainly not the top-of-mind sport when it comes to the southern US, but you would think this monumental, Universe-changing, 15 years in the making event would at least be comparable to one of 41 Lightning home games. Guess not Daveyboy.

  • Hara

    If you really zoom in on the “original” high resolution flickr images (some are focused better than others), there seems to be an unusually high proportion of big men with white shirts and thin reddish ties in the central seating area. I wonder if these are the “extras.”

    • Barbara Angel

      Wadddya Mean, wonder if these are the “extras”, they had to put the store mannequins somewhere.

    • Eclipse-girl

      could also be security.

    • TXCowgirl

      You mean they looked like this???

  • Sam Domingo

    Top grovelers got front seats

    • Sam Domingo

      I see Tom is taking time out from visiting his daughter again. Tsk. Bad move.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        LULZ. “Where is Suri?” is the new, “Where is Shelley?”

        • Narapoid

          wherreerreee

      • SandiCorrena

        I sorta feel like that’s better for Suri – I worry about him jacking her up with that crap……

        • Hara

          He can’t. The second Katie gets a whiff of that, he’ll never see Suri again. It’s probably spelled out in their divorce that way.

    • Aslansown

      I don’t see Nancy Cartwright, Kirstie Alley, Jenna Elfman, etc…

      • Barbara Angel

        Maybe they’re out back mixing a large batch of Kool-Aid?

        • Great White Clam

          I think they’re hiding just like the mgt.. And the rest of the clams.

      • Miss Tia

        yeah, where’ nancy? kirstie, do you rape babies elfman? beck? ETA: anne archer?

      • TXCowgirl

        8 hours ago, Jenna Elfman posted an Instagram of herself sitting in the hairdresser’s chair with the comment, “Now prepping filming new NBC comedy series..” Now, the pic could have been taken days ago and just posted today, but she leads to believe that she was at NBC today.

        • TXCowgirl

          Here you go…

          • TXCowgirl

            Just noticed the Jenna Elfman copyright on the lower left of pic and “whosay” on the lower right. I believe she put this up 8 hours ago as a red herring.

          • Miss Tia

            Wow, what kind of $cieno is she??? NOT at the biggest event EVER in the history of the PLANET?! Tsk tsk jenna…..

            • Hara

              She clearly doesn’t want to be in the tent at the center of the Universe

    • Barbara Angel

      Naaaaah those with any Moneeeeeeeeeeee left and stupid enough to still want to part with it? Got seats. The ones with empty pockets didn’t get chairs, you have to pay for chairs. What you thought chairs are FREE? Shame on you Sam, this is $cos we are talking about and $cos is NOT A CHARITABLE organisation.

      • Great White Clam

        The clams have this concept of “exchange”
        A free anything is ‘out’-exchange
        Free toilet paper? I don’t think so.

        • Barbara Angel

          So how much for a glass of raspberry flavoured Kool-Aid? Money grubbing Greedy Fucktards, at least the Kool-Aid should be free and people can’t wipe their bums on their sleeves can they? Best not to answer that last question… lol Nothing about $cos shocks me anymore…. They even held back funding for toilet paper WTF???

    • NOLAGirl

      Gag. That whole front row makes me sick. Twisted fucks.

    • Hara

      Where did this image come from?

    • Frank

      Great eye Sam, Travolta, Kelly and Tom sitting right next to each other,,,,how sad for Suri

    • VickiStubing

      Any other recognizable faces? Recognizable to those of you in the know, I mean. They all look the same to me.

      Great shot, btw! Where DID you find it, Sam?

    • Ruby

      Bob and Trish Duggan in front row. They certainly paid for it.

    • Hara

      I can tell by the way the front row is sitting that they are wishing there was more elbow room. Nicely done, Miscavige! Putting the whales in Economy.

      • Aslansown

        That’s exactly what struck me — they all look like they’re flying coach.

      • TXCowgirl

        But they only had to sit there for 8 minutes.

        • DeElizabethan

          Plus DM had to have his to telepromters for what, 4 minutes? har, har har!

    • Sherbet

      I wouldn’t have recognized TC. They all look like they’re at a wake or funeral, don’t they?

      • Aslansown

        They sure do! I wonder if they spoke or were recognized at one of the tent ceremonies?

        • Sherbet

          Maybe they were asked to eulogize the soon-to-be departed (cos).

      • Miss Tia

        I went thru the photo album on TBT and saw the lady next to the elderly man —who is also next to TC—helping him stand up, of course TC doesn’t assist the man, what a glib ::oh shit, i heard a big branch just fall out back…..uh…..well, gotta go look, TC is glib and i’ll leave it at that for now…..

        • EnthralledObserver

          Oi… glib TC is fine… how’s the back looking? Any damage?

          • Miss Tia

            It was too dark and I wasn’t gonna walk out in the mud. The wind is REALLY picking up STRONGLY (one thing I noticed in between watching the trees sway) I could really see the stars clearly tonight, I have never really seen them so clearly! Anyway, one part of one of my locust trees really looks like if the winds keep up, it might end up on my neighbor behind me’s garage (I LIKE this neighbor too!!!—even if I didn’t like the neighbor I wouldn’t want that to happen). I don’t think it can take too much more. Another neighbor’s tree has had huge branches come off, I saw them littering the backyard next door. UGH. I’m gonna be scared to come in here in the morning and look out (my computer room faces the back). I know it’s way too windy to let my dogs out —I wouldn’t want a branch to land on them if one came down. Winds from the South West aren’t good cuz our trees aren’t really hardened off from that direction.

    • Aslansown

      Didn’t wearing white nylons go out with the 80’s, or is it just that I have no fashion sense?

      • VickiStubing

        Remember, if she’s a true Sciloon, she hasn’t had free access to the internet, so styles have come and gone but she’s stuck in a time warp.

      • Miss Tia

        i thought the same thing!

        • Aslansown

          I’m no fashionista, but I seem to remember them being very popular in the 80’s and then being out, but it’s entirely possible I’m wrong since I haven’t worn dresses or skirts in years.

          • SandiCorrena

            Yes in the 80’s colored hosiery was popular – I did a lot of white then, and navy…

          • Miss Tia

            oh yeah, totally popular in the 80s!! hell, i even wore eye make up and ‘did’ my hair in the 80s! ah, what a magical time!

            • Aslansown

              Yeah — I wore make up back then too, even though back then I didn’t really need to. Now that I really do need to, I very rarely wear it unless I’m going to do a presentation.

            • Miss Tia

              I don’t wear make up now, nor do my hair.

      • Eclipse-girl

        I always go for nude. But I fully admit I am clueless

      • Charlotte

        I wear white but that’s because my flesh is so pale, it’s blue.

      • D.Y.G.

        Nobody but nurses and young girls under the age of 12 should wear white tights. There’s proof right there that money doesn’t buy you good taste.

    • SandiCorrena

      Is that Kirstie sitting next to Kelly Preston?

    • Captain Howdy

      This proves you don’t need to be intelligent to make money in this world.

    • Aslansown

      The body language of the little kid in the red vest tells me he REALLY doesn’t want to be there.

      • Sherbet

        His dad promised him a ride on the twirly-vomit thingie, and he wants it NOW.

    • Sarah James

      Is Lou sitting second to the right of Kelly? Thought it was Tom at first.

    • Great White Clam

      Where are the knee-pads?

    • Miss Tia

      Where’s ‘do you rape babies’ jenna elfman?! beck? they got the celebs out eh?

      • TXCowgirl

        scroll down for a pic of Jenna NOT in florida.

        • Miss Tia

          Oh dear, what kind of $cieno is she?? I might have to tweet her about that! ;)

          ETA: how far down? I’ll go a bit….then I gotta go to bed and worry about half a tree that I dunno might/might not end up on a neighbor’s garage (I like that neighbor too!!)

          FOUND!!

          • Aslansown

            You go, girl!

            • Miss Tia

              I’ll let things percolate overnight! ;)

          • TXCowgirl

            Now I think she put up the photo as a red herring.

            • Miss Tia

              as in how? to prove she had work and couldn’t attend? (I am tired, so i might be misunderstanding that, please excuse my possible ignorance).

            • TXCowgirl

              As in, she’s not really in LA, but put up the photo is a timely way to make her followers think that she was in LA. Maybe so they wouldn’t know that she was in Clearwater (though I’ve not seen evidence of such) OR so that DM and his minions would think she was working and therefore unable to attend the failed celebration. Or maybe I have no idea what I’m talking about.

              Be safe tonight and during tomorrow’a clean up. Tetanus up to date?

            • Miss Tia

              Ah, okay, got it!!! Well we haven’t seen pictures of her there in FL yet, you’d think if she was there, she’d be visible, right? So it might have been a ‘hey $cieno i’m really working’.

              I’ve got broken branches—not on neighbor’s garage, thank goodness!!!—and lots of things blown around but nothing broken!! YEAH!!! Yep, I got a tetanus shot last year after I stepped on a nail! That’s one of the few shots I’ll get! (Aside from my several times a year kenalog shot for allergies! :)

            • TXCowgirl

              Miss T, thank you for the update. I’ve been though a couple of hurricanes here on the gulf coast, so I understand the dread of “What damage will I wake to in the morning.” Hopefully your downed branches are not so large that a chainsaw is required for removal….been there, done that.

              Ok. back to all of the happenings over on today’s post. See ya’ there!

            • Miss Tia

              yep, still reading thru today’s post (I got up late!) :)

    • Barbara Angel

      Pleased to see JT still has his Lego hair painted on.

  • Sarah James

    I read on Karen’s site that Miscavige put his dogs on Mike Bennitt for the videos and recording work he did in Texas. Once again the little Davey plays at being a wanta be mob boss. What a sweet ride for both Mikes today.

    • mirele

      I think Mike Bennitt got his revenge on Tiny Fists today.

      • aquaclara

        I hope so. Why does Davey think that his success could only come from the failures of others?

  • jeff

    I don’t know if this is to be considered good or bad news, but this is for you, Captain Howdy:

    http://blogs.wsj.com/speakeasy/2013/11/17/ray-davies-hints-the-kinks-could-reunite/?google_editors_picks=true

    • Captain Howdy

      Kool, thanks dude. Dave is back and I thought he was dead (not really). Fuck the Beatles…Kinks Rule

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CK-Po-IGY8k

      • Great White Clam

        Wait. There was a Beatles David?

      • MaxSpaceman

        Dave should’ve had *more* recognition for the Kinks than he did.

  • George Layton

    It just occurred to me that davey was applying the new GATII tech to his speech! It does make everything go faster!

  • Great White Clam

    Bat-shit crazy on the ground.

    Sky King in the air.
    What’s not to like?
    lol

  • Sherbet

    So, let me understand something. Judging by the photos, the multitude of b&w pants&shirts means those are SO people who were ordered to be in the crowd? And that means the number of scns who allegedly flew in from all over the world of their own volition was only about 1/3 of the total attendance?

    • Eclipse-girl

      yes.

      • Sherbet

        And the crowd estimate is no more than 2000-3000, so only 1000 “publics” took the bait and came to Mecca, huh? I love it.

        • Narapoid

          Sherbet, damn you I know it seems like a lot of people care but damn, 100 really care, so dont be a dick… it means something to those who give a shit…

          • Captain Howdy

            WTF are you saying?

            • Sherbet

              I was wondering myself, Howdy. I couldn’t tell if it was snark. Apparently, I’m a dick, though. That part I understood.

            • Captain Howdy

              Maybe sarcasm, maybe not. If it is I’m slightly apologetic

            • Sherbet

              S/he upvoted both of us, so who knows what the intent was. I won’t be losing sleep over it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              I read it as *snark* 3 hours after the fact. :-)

        • Narapoid

          Sorry to hit you with a flame thrower you did not deserve. you are a kind and caring person and I do not know what possesed me to post what I did. Bless you Sherbet

    • Great White Clam

      Yes.

      • Great White Clam

        But it was merely suggested that they be there.

        Debout, les damnés de la Mer org
        Debout, les forçats de la faim
        La raison tonne en son cratère
        C’est l’éruption de la fin

        • Sherbet

          Um. OK.

          • Great White Clam

            The clams are fusked.

            • Narapoid

              fuskelinsked

          • Captain Howdy

            Look out Sherb, you know you have that accent engram to deal with.

            • Sherbet

              You’re right. First Rinder, and now Great Blanc Clam. I’m doomed.

            • Great White Clam

              I was only trying to help…

            • Sherbet

              You and your French, Clam…

    • EnthralledObserver

      Don’t forget the probable number of “Extras” that would have been paid to be there, if you take that sign for Extras Parking into account…

      • Sherbet

        This is like election night, waiting for the accurate numbers to come in.

        • EnthralledObserver

          :) yes… it does feel like that, doesn’t it? Good analogy.

          • Sherbet

            I’m wondering if cos is reporting the weekend’s events with their usual hyperbole on their website.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Oh, and I want to point out that these things are usually attended in pairs, i.e hubby and wife, because by the very nature of $cientology, you can’t be married to someone who isn’t a clam too – or at least pretends to be… and then there might be children. So at best we’re already down to 500 families at most.

        • TXCowgirl

          Plus a very single TC.

          • EnthralledObserver

            Yes, indeed – that was prominent. I was averaging ;)

        • Dog Saluter

          Wow. Yeah. Good point.

      • Sherbet

        I thought “Extras” was just a mistake on the sign. If it really meant “Seat Fillers,” then that’s a riot!

        • EnthralledObserver

          I have no way of knowing what it really meant, but taking it at face value I’d say – let’s take the piss…

          • Great White Clam

            Take it away!

          • Sherbet

            I’m not sure what that expression means, EO, but I agree. Let’s assume the sign means what it says, and what it says is an embarrassment.

            • Charlotte

              http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=taking%20the%20piss

              word clearing that for you :-)

              1. taking the piss

              Making fun of something or someone

              Hey, Jim, you’re fat.
              No, I’m not!
              Naw, you’re not really fat; I was just taking the piss.

              2. taking the piss

              1) to do/say something without intent

              2) to do/say something for the hell of it

              3) joking

              Is Lola being serious or is she just taking the piss?

              3. taking the piss

              joking around.

              “hey bill, youre a fucking dick eater”
              “what?”
              “dont worry mate, im justt taking the piss”

              etc etc

            • Sherbet

              Thanks for the definition. I thought it might be a British expression of some sort.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Charlotte got it covered… :)

            • EnthralledObserver

              Good job, Charlotte! Thanks. :) We can’t let ourselves be misunderstood, can we?

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Well, but truly, how many publics have the financial means to:
      1. Be “on call” for secret dates to be announced last minute
      2. When the call comes, be absent from work for an undetermined period
      3. Fly in from wherever in the world they are
      4. Spend $1,000 a night for Ft. Harrison accommodations
      5. Get the regging of a lifetime

      • Sherbet

        The “church” had been bragging that’s exactly what they expected to have happen.

      • Room 101

        Yeah, but even just take Pat Harney’s statement a few weeks ago that there were 10 thousand SCN public in Clearwater alone. This event totally proved that wrong.

        • N. Graham

          They must be counting ex-Scientologists also. Anyone who ever had services and/or got on their mailing list..

      • Great White Clam

        Clams. That’s the only sane (?) explanation.

    • TXCowgirl

      I’ll give you some pics of them in a couple of minutes. They are so young, so happy and I’m so sad for them.

  • chukicita

    Thank you, Tony and Mike, Mike, WBM and all the boots on the ground for bringing the live story. You sure couldn’t tell from the coverage in the Tampa Tribune, which unbelievably printed the ‘estimated 10,000′ figure.

    • Aslansown

      Not to forget Bury The Nuts and her companion(s). Thanks for going out there today.

    • Barbara Angel

      10,000 my arse….Must have a Kool-Aid drinker on staff?

      • EnthralledObserver

        No, they were just reporting the CO$ expected number… not reporting the actual turnout when they said that… all good. :)

        • EnthralledObserver

          Oh, wait… scratch that.. I thought we were talking TBT… not TT. haven’t read that one yet. Carry on…

  • Snippy_X

    Another shoop for the occasion

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Minds Closed sign rocks!

      • Great White Clam

        It’s true, too!

  • Hara

    This is what I was talking about….the number of men with white shirts, no blazer, and red ties is abnormal… must the extras

    • Sherbet

      That’s it. SO. Lots of them.

    • Great White Clam

      But why the red ties?

      • Great White Clam

        Did I miss an HCOPL somewhere?

      • Semper Phi

        I’m wondering if it’s a sort of “GAT2″ uniform for the people from non-ideal orgs. As far as I know, only the ideal orgs have uniforms for their staff, but perhaps they gave the non-ideal-org staff at Flag uniforms to emphasize how big and special this all is. Just my guess based on absolutely nothing but experience with the way things go in the clam universe.

        • Great White Clam

          I liked the term Semper Phi used: “non-ideal-orgs” and then thought “non-dead-orgs” in juxtaposition. Kind of like zombie orgs. Orgs of the un-dead.

          Kind of like what we are seeing all over the world…

          Kind of like $cientology is

      • Snippy_X

        To match the bows.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        They are “power” ties. Actually, maybe “Super Power” ties. Like that. Or something.

      • Ruby

        Because tech bulletins are written on white paper with red ink…seriously. So, I am thinking red ties to go along with the theme of standard tech.

  • sizzle8

    All electronic devices are PROHIBITED!
    Turn off all electronic devices.
    Do not violate this.

    • Great White Clam

      Question authority: Why? What about my nifty new sex-toy meter cans? Does that count?

    • Hara

      All prosecutors will be violated

    • Snake Plissken

      Yes folks this in not the North Korean border, it’s the entrance to a supposed church event.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      THEY INTERFERE WITH THE IMPLANTS!

      Idiots.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      There.

      Fixed it.

  • TXCowgirl

    The fine young men in their bright red ties…..

    • Sherbet

      I hope every one of those people realizes some day that they’ve been very, very foolish.

    • Semper Phi

      Wow, I know so many of the people in those pictures! Damn, I wish they weren’t there.

      • TXCowgirl

        Seriously?

      • TXCowgirl

        Are they Sea Org? Many of their comments were about how much they are going to miss each other.

        • Semper Phi

          No, they are not SO, they’re from the outer orgs. I trained with many of them between 2007 and 2010. This GAT2 thing was a big reunion for them, since the OOTs come from all over the world. When I left Flag in 2010, we all said goodbye but said to each other, “See you when we all come back for GAT2!” But I skipped the party.

          • TXCowgirl

            Do you think they paid for the trip individually, or do you think Co$ footed the bill?

            • Semper Phi

              My org paid for my travel to and from Flag, and I think that is supposed to be true for everyone. If the org doesn’t have the money, they typically hit up a public with deep pockets to underwrite the airfare. I know people who were stuck at Flag when they were done with their training, while they waited for their org to come up with the money for the plane tickets.

            • TXCowgirl

              Thank you for the 411. It really must be a bummer for you to see that they are still sheeple. Sorry.

            • Semper Phi

              Thanks. It really is a bummer to see how far “in” they are and how happy they are about it.

          • EnthralledObserver

            So, are you saying they are staff and had no choice but to go, or would it have been their choice?

            • Semper Phi

              I expect most of them were excited to go back. The others would have had a lot of pressure applied by their orgs to get them to go. Plus, the first ones went to Flag back in May and June, expecting to be there only 6-8 weeks. It’s a lot easier for them to get people to go to Flag when they tell them it’s a limited engagement, but of course NO training at Flag ever takes the short amount of time they promise when they are recruiting people to go there.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Thanks!

          • Hara

            What are OOTs?

            • Semper Phi

              Sorry. They are Outer Org Trainees — staff members from orgs outside of Flag who go there for their training. They come from all over the world. Most of them are not Sea Org members.

            • Hara

              So local male “staff” wear the vests, and OOT males wear the red ties… what do the Sea Org wear? I’m so confused!

            • Semper Phi

              I’m guessing that the ones with the vests are from “ideal” orgs, since at the moment only those orgs have official uniforms provided to the staff, and those uniforms include vests. The guys I recognize who are wearing the red ties and no vests are from orgs that haven’t gone “ideal” yet, so I suspect if they were provided with uniforms for GAT2, those uniforms did not include vests. Sea Org members have different uniforms depending on what org they come from, and their standard uniforms do not include vests (as far as I know), and the colors of their shirts and ties differ by org.

  • Silence of the Clams

    Today was an epic day, not just because of the great coverage, the wise beard man, Tony and the epic helicopter stunt from Rinder (Kudos). No, epic because today confirmed what so many of us predicted for so long. Membership in the cult is at an all time low. In fact, you see a couple thousand people (tops) and it’s obvious this charade can’t last the test of time.

    Mixedcabbage has been here before. But now he sees the dwindling crowds. Now he hears the copters overhead. Now he feels the weight of the defectors.

    Today was epic because there is no doubt that the Chairman of the Board was witnessing his demise.

    And to that I say, “good fucking riddance”

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Overheard just before nap time at Flag: “stupid mike winder and his hewicopter wuined my big pawty! I hate hewicopters, I hate them!!!”

  • Golden Age of Blech

    Please tell me the scicos call it SP. That would be soooo ironic. Wouldn’t they get confused? But that is the joke. McCabbage is the SP. Opening the SP. Stressing out over SP’s at the SP event.

  • DeElizabethan

    I haven’t seen any comments about the TB Times group of pics at the event showing TC, JT and wife in the front row on your left. They are pretty clear in one of the closeups on the site.

    • TXCowgirl

      Scroll down for comments (if set on newest)

      • DeElizabethan

        Found it and was on newest, but it hadn’t given them to me til late. Fast and furious is today for Disqus, huh?

        • TXCowgirl

          Faster than a knife fight in a phone booth.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Where are the pix?

  • Silence of the Clams

    By the way everybody, I heard from a reliable source that Tom Cruise wanted to spend the day with Suri but she was busy watching a Mark Walhberg movie. He would have been flying out to see her otherwise. Poor Tom.

    • George Layton

      A: Is for the Actor he pretends to be.

      B: is for his Best friend, short davey.

      A: is for Another day away from Suri.

      N: is when he tells her Not to worry.

      D: is Daddy’s on the road again.

      O: is Oh the press they just like to butt in.

      N: is No I won’t be coming tomorrow either dear.

      E: is you can’t believe Everything you hear.

      D: is Don’t you worry honey, I’ll make lots of money

      and convince the world you’re not alone .

      • Great White Clam

        ::sadness::

  • Illinoisian

    An amazing day. Thrilling to get moment by moment coverage — via reports and pics from ground level and in the air — (that has confirmed the ‘non-event’ status of DM’s ribbon cutting) and also the accompanying commentary, analyses, historical background, shoops and celebratory posts from the Bunkerites. And lots of new names posting, including exes with great insights into what this failure means. Thanks to everyone.

    Was also evacuated from Sunday services when the storm came through; went to safe area in the building. Later heard about the devastated areas not so very far from us.

    So much excitement for one day.

    • Sherbet

      Glad you’re OK, Illi.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Glad that you’re okay. Some others here had to head for safe shelter as well. Hope nothing serious happened.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I am so sorry about the tornadoes, I heard that on the news. I hope you and family and friends are safe and stay safe.

      • Illinoisian

        Thanks. We are fine but it’s shocking to hear of and see pics of homes leveled — not just damage to roofs and trees but leveled — in a community fairly close (approx. 35 miles from us). One never really believes that it will happen.

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          I cannot even imagine that, 35 miles is very close.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Glad you are safe.

  • Sherbet

    I don’t know if this was already linked or posted, but it’s a hoot. http://otviiiisgrrr8.com/2013/11/18/12000-people-trampled-to-death-at-flag-land-base/

    • Great White Clam

      Fu(k yeah!

    • Snippy_X

      Shoop of the day – by far! Split my sides on that one!

      • Sherbet

        Me, too. I laughed loud and long.

        • Snippy_X

          Clams are out gunned and out shooped all day :)

          • Great White Clam

            Out gummed.

            etc.

    • Sarah James

      I gave them all up thumbs. I hope OSA reads it and passes it on to the little guy, just like I expect them to do with this site.

    • NeverIn

      ACKKK! That needs to come with a warning! I just laughed so hard I woke up the whole family. Thank God I wan’t drinking anything!

      • PoisonIvyHerself

        Me too – woke Mr PI out of a sound sleep – reading on the iPad, started laughing so hard I shook the bed. That shoop is hikarious, too!

  • Candygram

    So the sea-org workers were there for a whole 4 minutes of the festivities past ribbon cutting? Fancy. Thanks to the Mikes and Mark on the ground. You’re suppaheroz.

  • RMycroft

    Bah! The power is out. Nothing to do but surf the Internet by candlelight while listening to the radio. If it’s still out in the morning, I’ll just have to use the camping stove and have eggs and sausages. (There’s a wind warning, but nothing nasty.)

    It’s so primitive, but I’ll manage somehow…

    • Great White Clam

      Sausages assuage.

      • RMycroft

        Yeah, but if the power is still out in the morning, I might have to fry up everything in the freezer too! Spring rolls, scotch meat pies, McRib bits, sausage rolls, with cookie dough ice cream.

        I can pop shelter for 11 friendly people, got all kinds of lighting/cooking tech, can purify water, got rations, first aid, communications, solar panels, don’t got a generator to power the fridge. D’oh!

        • Hara

          Did you fill up the bath tub?

          • Aslansown

            I’ll come over for the cookie dough ice cream — I would hate to see that go to waste! ;-)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Power is OUT?

      NO, Power is IN! Super Power. I know, because I saw it on the internet!

      • RMycroft

        I did NOT see any flying people. (Except the ones with helicopters.) How can you have super powers without any flying people?

        All that money and Tom Cruise still can’t fly! (Although he seems to have managed invisibility this weekend.)

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Sad but true. He does, however, remain a little light in the loafers…

          • RMycroft

            It’s a Festivus Miracle!

        • ThetaBara

          All hail the Flying Squirrels! Talk about striking a paralysing blow!

    • Hara

      How do you surf da interwebs without power? you have recharge tech?

      • ThetaBara

        I’m guessing smartphone tech might have something to do with it.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Guess it was a long day for some of those extras…

    • TXCowgirl

      Defending Your Life!!

    • TXCowgirl

      From time to time, Albert Brooks posts sarcastic tweets about Co$. I’m a big fan.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Please put some up here that you really like!
        Some of us *never* go on Twitter.

    • KJP in Portland

      Who.are.these.people?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Extras!

        (From the movie Defending Your Life…)

  • Great White Clam

    Bye.

  • Jenstnick

    Fantastic coverage of Slappy’s epic fail. Rinder’s shenanigans are awesome!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    • ThetaBara

      Nice one, DCubed! It was great meeting you. WUS SPs FTW!

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        So nice to meet you!

        KSW: Keep Scientology Wary!

  • IBBy

    Highlights for me:

    Davey had to cut his outdoor speech short because of helecopter tech
    He had to hire people to fill the streets and couldnt even do that well
    as far as we can tell, he couldnt get the LA b-list celebs there. No Beck, No Elfmans, No Laura Prepon, not even Kirstie Alley

    The pyramid scheme is starting to topple. they are running out of people to reg. the money train is drying up.

    As a peripheral anon that has participated in many a craigslist raid, seeing the public failure of this empty mecca is quite the feather in all of our caps.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Didn’t TBT report that Travolta, Alley, Preston & Cruise were there?
      Or were they simply parroting some Clam Propaganda?

      • jeff

        There’s pix on their site that show them.

    • ThetaBara

      CL raids TOTALLY count. No one can do everything, and all the small things add up. Thanks for all you do! <3

  • ThetaBara

    Speaking of TomKat… Greetings to all Bunkerites, Bunkeroos, Bunkerettes – and a special shout-out to the Bunker-Curious!

    I have returned from the TomKat Adventure and OMG it was a blast! The show was amazing – excellent theater! It was well-written, flawlessly casted and acted, creatively staged, and just brilliant theater aside from the subject matter. The characterizations were superb. If Bert Fields loved it that’s got to tell you something. So glad I went!

    The after party was just as good! We got to offer congratulations to the cast and hang out with the writer and producer. I found ONE little niggly fact that was off (and it was tiny, and unclear from the original VF article source) but the rest was spot on – and I have done a shit-ton of research on all of this BS. This was clearly meticulously researched and carefully written. Special thanks to all you SPs who kicked in for the kickstartr!!! The cast and producers were super grateful. I am also very grateful! I’m so glad I made it to this!

    I got to meet a number of Bunker luminaries too! Our rockstar Tory Magoo came and was just lovely to meet and hang out with. She and MishKid and another special guest and I went and ran a mini-raid on the HQ – which was right across the street from the theater! (Glad I packed my mask!) There are photos, but most of them are not in my phone. Hopefully they will be or have been posted. Suffice it to say that we had a blast, caused the sea org kids to use first one and then another of their special entrances, engaged the guards, encouraged the sea orgers to call home, waved to their security cams and just generally enturbulated, all while having a little party. It was AWESOME! We also saw the Official Front Door of The Cabbage (the address he uses when required to provide one for public record). It could use a little maintenance – it’s looking a bit shabby. But, still, really fun to frolic on his very doorstep! Although I am sure he actually lives out in Hemet with his lovely and devoted wife.

    I’m hoping Brandon Ogborn can be convinced to offer a PDF of the script for sale so folks who couldn’t make it can at least get a taste. I’d gladly buy one.

    I’m behind on comments so IDK if there are already pix, but Tory has a recap video up.

    Also, I am proud to say that *I* led the standing ovation last night!

    tl;dr: HIP HIP HOORAY!!!

    • Dog Saluter

      ThetaBabe you rock and it was so fun to meet you and the others last night! Sorry I had to bail early and miss the rest of the festivities!

      • ThetaBara

        It was awesome meeting you! I’ve really been wishing for a WUS SP Society meetup!

        • Lurkness

          Yes to WUS SP Society meetups.

          • Missionary Kid

            It was great meeting you, too.

      • Tory Christman

        Darn….I missed you! Oh well, next time…..

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Thanks for the report, ThetaBara. I’d kill for a copy of the script; I’d rather have a video of the performance someday!
      Wish I could’ve been there – still can’t get over Bert Fields! Bless his heart, many of us biz folk figured dodged a bullet in the Pellicano case. So strange to think of him laughing at himself!
      Now if only he could teach his illustrious client to do the same!

      • Tory Christman

        PIHerself: I talked with the producer of TomKat tonight after the show. I told her I HOPE

        they put it on DVD. She said they’re hoping to. What a **great** show!!

        • Lurkness

          We told Dein too that they should do a DVD. Hope they do it; or even better with the new programming modes (netflix, webserials,etc), hopefully they find someone willing to produce and distribute while they are out here.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      I wish I could have been there!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Where did you find a bronze bust of Mr. Toad at that hour of night?

      • Tory Christman

        It’s inside the L Ron Hubbard Life Exposition…..right kitty corner from the theater,
        so it was perfect timing! What a blast :) Everyone loved ThetaBara in her Anon mask.
        More peeps honked and gave high fives. It was a fun night!

        • Missionary Kid

          Tory, you rocked. It was fun hanging out with you. I was surprised that you got the guard to acknowledge something you said. I think you penetrated a corner of his mind.

          As I’ve posted elsewhere, he was facing you and jerked when I happened to be behind him and said that the sea org members scooting out of the door looked like they were in the Marines. I actually meant it to mean that they looked like boots being harassed by a DI to get on a bus as fast as possible.

          Maybe he was just surprised someone was behind him.

      • Missionary Kid

        Believe it or not, but I didn’t have Mr. Toad as a nickname for LRH. We’re approaching 100 for him.

      • Missionary Kid

        I was impressed with the setting. The effect of the water rippling down the washboard surface behind the bust of Mr. Toad was really quite appealing. Too bad it had to be ruined by the bust.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Water? That’s a prototype Oiliness Table. The Oiliness Wall…

      • Missionary Kid

        It was great meeting you and your wife. I don’t think she has anything to worry about.
        It’s pure chance that I met you, Lurkiness, Dog Saluter, sitting in the same row. I don’t have my smart phone set to pick up messages from the email address I contacted you on, and I didn’t have my computer with.

        It was a lightning run for me into L.A. and back late that night. It was 2:15 am when I got home, and I’d been up since very early, setting up a meeting with Theta Bara and chatting. I zonked out on Sunday. Luckily, I wasn’t driving, but got a ride from a friend of mine.

    • Lurkness

      Excellent write up and awesome to meet you IRL. Fun to share TomKat with you and the other SPs. Hopefully we have other SP get togethers in the future.

    • Missionary Kid

      This is late, because I zonked out last night, but you were great. You were kryptonite to the sea orgs that came running out of the building.

  • NeverIn

    That Extras Parking sign appears to be right in front of The main Super Power entrance. I don’t know anywhere else in the area with a curved planter like that, which means this was taken earlier in the day or some other time. Hilarious in any case!

  • Guest

    We’ve got new, hi-res footage of COB’s speech here, including a special ceremony on the 5th floor. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=stBz6GTmGDc&feature=youtu.be

    • Dog Saluter

      ??? That didn’t work at all.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Did I just get punked, or was it legit but the vid was removed?

  • TXCowgirl

    Have any of you heard a word from someone who toured the SP building today? Was SO in charge of giving the tours?

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      I am waiting for some enterprising audiophile to transcribe the text of Miscavige’s epic 8 minute speech!

  • TheObnox

    We’ve got new, hi-res footage of COB’s speech here, including a special ceremony on the 5th floor.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qf-af4EAly8

    • Snippy_X

      I feel so illuminated now. Thanks and nice audio track, btw. It’s clear where the idea for the big red bow came from.

    • VickiStubing

      Aw, I love that movie. Will I ever be able to watch it again without thinking of Co$? Hope so.

  • Tony Ortega

    We here at the Underground Bunker want to thank everyone involved in this epic day of news coverage. Mike Bennitt and Mike Rinder should go down in history for their incredible act of live journalism today. The Tampa Bay Times ultimately came up with their own amazing shots of the crowd so we could zoom in on Cruise, Travolta, et al. And you, our commenters, really made today a day to remember.

    Now, we have something important to tell you. Tomorrow morning we actually have an even bigger story breaking. Get some sleep, because at 7 am we’re uncorking a real doozy, and we’d love it if someone kept track of how many minutes or hours it takes before it’s on Radar, Daily Mail, Daily News, and the rest.

    Get ready for a big day. — The Proprietor

    • Dog Saluter

      Tony, speaking on behalf of the group, we don’t know what to say. You are simply astounding.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Hey Proprietor you get some sleep too! Now you have two jobs – one is managing the fringes of the internet, the over is your day job. That said, I will set my alarm…

    • Verve

      Wow, helluva day today, and more excitement this morning?! You’re too good to us.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Christmas comes early in 2013!

    • jeff

      Tommy Davis spills all.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Not yet.

    • Johnny Tank (Forever Autumn)

      If this wasn’t worthy of a Pulitzer, I don’t know what is!

      Thanks for an amazing day Chairman Of the Bunker, and looking forward to many more.

      Salutes from Norway!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Chairman Of the Bunker!

        Thumbs up!!!

    • Hara

      Looks like I picked the wrong day to quit smoking

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Thank YOU! The growing community here grows around the epicenter of your own commitment of speaking truth about and to an evil and destructive group.

      The whole is greater than it’s parts. But you are one of the greater parts.

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      An even bigger story? Damn, Tony! How do you do it?
      What a day it was…you are breaking historical ground in internet journalism!

    • Chocolate Velvet

      Eeeeeeeee! Tony, you often tease us with upcoming stories — but this sounds like a real biggie. I can’t imagine what it could be. I’m so excited!

      Thanks for a great day of coverage!

    • Dog Saluter

      I don’t mean to scoop you or anything Tony, but are you about to reveal this picture of JT and TC holding hands?

      • Snippy_X

        It’s not what you think. They are scared because they do not have a SHTF Plan for the code red situation that will hit them tomorrow morning :0

      • Tony Ortega

        No, it’s not about those has-beens.

        • Phil McKraken

          Is it the biggest story ever in any universe?

          • Tony Ortega

            Biggest ever? Nah. But if it’s not on Radar and Daily Mail within hours, I’ll be seriously surprised.

      • sizzle8

        or this one?

        • InterestedinCrazy

          Can anyone name the front row?

          • Tony Ortega

            Laurisse Stuckenbrock, Monique Yingling, Kelly Preston, John Travolta, Tom Cruise, and I don’t know who the old guy with the cane is.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Dude- you really *don’t* get much sleep!
              Fantastic today, as you know. People riveted globally. You really rocked the house!
              And in 4 hrs and 45 minutes, you have another huge day coming for the Bunker.
              Cheers, Tony O. La Chiem’ !!

            • InterestedinCrazy

              confirm please, they really are Holding Handies?

            • Lurkness

              shoop lulz.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              Earlier, Ruby pointed out Robert Duggan and his wife. Smack dab on the middle, suit and shades, looks like him.

            • Lurkness

              Thanks. Was curious about that!

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              We in RTC will have you know that the “old guy with the cane” is the first man on the Moon NEIL ARMSTRONG!

            • KJP in Portland

              Now, even certainly you know that our dear Neil Armstrong just passed awat a couple years ago :(

              Great man. Great time in American history.

            • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

              Dead?!

              Then the wog agency we hired to send us some famous people LIED to us!

            • DodoTheLaser

              I always thought it was Lou Armstrong.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Laurisse (Lou) Stuckenbrock, Monique Yingling, Kelly Preston, JT, TC, Michael Bayback, Liz Bayback, Kannon, Kurt, Kathy, Matt and Cindy Feshbachs, Bob and Trish Duggan.

            • Tory Christman

              I thought that was the Feshbachs, thanks!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Very welcome, Tory!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Remember The Celebrity mag with Matt’s face on it and the interview re: Super Power?
              It was about 20 years ago. He was the first and only public to get it for a cool $1 mil.
              Matt received it after he was already OT VIII and he stated he was blind before SP RD.
              LOL Twenty years and a bankruptcy later, pretty sure he is still blind.

            • Lurkness

              And Joe, who also paid to do the Super Powerz back then, is DEAD. Great stuff these Super Powerzzzz! Leaves you dead or bankrupt or both.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Sad and true.

            • Lurkness

              Yes, especially at such a young age. Joe Feshbach was only 55 at the time of his death as a super power.

            • Lurkness

              Nice work, thanks!

            • DodoTheLaser

              Sure! Bob Duggan, btw is the only scientology billionaire to my knowledge.
              He donated at least $20 mil so far, more than anyone else. Top whale.

            • tetloj

              10,000 internetz to you sir!

            • tetloj

              Now…row 2?

            • DodoTheLaser

              People clapping to the row 1.

        • Dog Saluter

          Nice!

        • Sydjazz

          Omg muahaha they are holding hands.

          • Tory Christman

            I can see the one guy looks like Travolta. BUT—-the one on the right (with his hand on JT’s leg) does *not* look like TC to me. Just sayin’ :)

            • Lurkness

              It is TC, there are other photos at TBTimes that show him a bit better and more recognizable.

            • Tory Christman

              Ok, thanks…Lurkness. I’ll look for those. I stand corrected :) Still in this shot it doesn’t look like they’re “holding hands”…it looks like “TC” has his hand on JT’s leg. Do the other photos show differently?

            • Lurkness

              These are actually shoops of original TBT photo to show the hand-holding. They are Lulz though! Were you able to use the extra ticket?

            • Tory Christman

              Ok great :) Yes! Were you the person who helped give that to me? (I thought you were s/one else—I’m bad with nicks until I spend some time w/ peeps). If it was you, thank you from my friend! She showed up….ready to buy a ticket. I’d mentioned I had a free ticket, if she needed it. Turned out they were “sold out” so your ticket got her in. She said to please Thank you very much! :)

            • Lurkness

              cool beans! Glad it got used.

            • Tory Christman

              So it was you? LOL…I thought “Lurkness” was one of the girls. Glad you asked :)

            • Lurkness

              LOL, I mostly leave the drag stuff to the Dwarfenfuhrer. Last night was no exception. LOL

            • MaxSpaceman

              Those both were shoops, Tory C.
              Not serious pictures.

            • Tory Christman

              Got it, Max…thank you :)

            • Lurkness

              here you go….

            • Lurkness

              Thanks disGust for the extra picture. Here is better TC pic with it on top (refrresh).

            • Sydjazz

              Oh yeah thats them muahaha

            • Sydjazz

              Wait where is mrs sunday school shoes? And bart simpson?

            • Sydjazz

              Maybe it is one of those extras that scion paid for. The real tc is inside consoling dm.

          • Sydjazz

            Yeah sad to say but on closer inspection it is a shoop. Booo. But the leg holding one is real

        • media_lush

          Thigh rubbing mutual frottage a go go….. I, for one, look forward to Michael K’s report on this particular photo.

          • Lurkness

            shoop

            • media_lush

              awwww, shame…. not that a bit of photoshopping has bent the truth before though….. this could be the ‘official’ church version, nudge, nudge, wink, wink etc

          • tetloj

            yeh baby!

    • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

      Aaaaand with that news, COB has left the building, the state, and the country.

      • Jimmy Threetimes

        If he’s gotta bounce so soon, Mike Rinder may be able to get him a deal on a helicopter charter.

    • El Con Blubbard

      Wow – How exciting!! Can’t wait to hear the news…hopefully Miscavige was arrested and is in jail and the Flag Land Base raided by authorities and shut down – all Sea Org Slaves freed! Ex Members are to contact 1-800-REFUND to get all of your money back if you have been scammed by the Cult of Scientology!! Sweet dreams everyone!!

    • Tory Christman

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m15ypy2quc0&feature=c4-overview&list=UU__gcXYVQlmVocNLZykibUw
      This has been a day to remember, this is FOR SURE!
      Thank you to Tony for keeping the Bunker alive and rollin’
      Also thanks to Mike and Mike for the ride! :::wow:::
      Love you ALL :) Tory/Magoo

      • Lurkness

        Another great video and glad you also liked TomKat–that is high praise. As Theta Bera has said, Brandon’s research and accuracy was impressive. Wish I could have joined you again tonight.

        • Tory Christman

          Lurkness….Thank you. Yes, truly you can see/hear the intense research the writers and producers did by how accurate ALL of it is. There were a few tiny snaggs…but nothing any normal person would ever catch. Over all—the writing, the acting and the speed of it was ALL Fantastic!! My hat is off to them! Hope to see you again, Lurkness :)

      • Glibby

        Good video, Tory. It was fun seeing you tonight at the show. Some highlights were Tom Cruise and Oprah, and Tom Cruise and DM riding motorcycles together. I wish I’d been there when Bert Fields was in the audience, because he appears quite a bit in the play. Very fun.

        • Tory Christman

          Hi Glibby! Great seeing you, too :) ((This is “I’m Glib” right?) I’ve had a bit of a confusion here as I’ve know you, picketed with you, posted with you as “I’m Glib” for many years now. But I *think* there is another Glib here—unless “Glibby” is not “I’m Glib”. Please let me know…it’s confusing! Due to your avatar…I think it’s you. Great seeing you. What a fantastic show, eh? Hope to see you soon! Tory/Magoo

          • tetloj

            Other Glibby (GlibWog – smoking baby) has announced she is happy to be referred to as ‘Baby’ to avoid confusion.

            • Tory Christman

              Oh fantastic! Thank you, tetloj :)

    • InterestedinCrazy

      I’m sorry but I have to go to work this morning and it’ll be noonish here when this news is published. I’ll be refreshing refreshing refreshing…
      Thanks for all you do and have done, Tony!

    • DodoTheLaser

      Hey Tony! What it’s about? I won’t tell anyone. (Grinning)

      • ParticleMom

        I tried that with Bury earlier. It didn’t work.

        • DodoTheLaser

          :) :) Makes it two of us.

      • wapbabalooba

        I don’t want to steal Tony’s thunder but can let slip it pertains to the first interview with a certain deposed former dictator and accused humanoid rights violator in return for come wog mocked up case technical data about the Tesla battery.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Well, it can’t be Leonardo DiCaprio then.

          Is it Pat Broeker? David Mayo?

          Welcome to The Bunker, btw!

    • media_lush

      My best bet is an official LMP* announcement through the bunker

      *Lisa Marie Presley

      • MaxSpaceman

        Maybe LMP and her mom Priscilla!
        That would be awesome!

      • DodoTheLaser

        I thought the same thing too.

      • tetloj

        Another thought is confirmation about someone doing $cientology on the down-low

        Edit: but like the LMP/Priscilla guess

    • Zana

      You are the BEST!! :-) Whadda ride this is. Thank you, Tony, for providing such amazing leadership.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Yes Sir, Poland is ready. Thank God today is my day off, and I’m going to push up statistics of Your site a little. By the way, I wonder how many of Your readers come from Poland?

  • Watergate

    What a day! Thank you Tony, Mike, Mike and Bunkerites. And thank you, David Miscavige, you piece of dry, dead toast, you. We couldn’t have done it without you.

    G’night, Gracie! :)

    • PoisonIvyHerself

      Nite George.

  • California

    This was amazing to watch….. even from 3000 miles away the pix and then the selected videos showed that this planned mammoth earth-shattering and earth-changing event had fizzled. Badly.

    For everyone that SCN had harmed to see.

    DM, you lost more today than you can even imagine right now but as the months roll on, it will become apparent. All your money and threats cannot buy respect or viable partnerships with the wogs that you think that you can use.

    DM, please grow up, quit hurting people and begin to have a normal life, if you can.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Psychopaths by definition are out of control in many ways, one of those being ‘quit hurting people’ is impossible for Davey; and a *normal* life is out of the question.

  • Sarah James

    Hey OSA, how you doing? You should go get real jobs, cause Davey is not going to fund your legal defense.” Some days you get the bear, some days the bear gets you.” Your day is approaching.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Well, that was Theta Tsunami all right.
    Out of announced 10,000 may be 3,000 showed up and most are Sea Org and staff, seems like.
    Plus SPs in the helicopter above and all over the place otherwise.
    Them OTs and their Super Power.

  • valshifter

    meet little boots

  • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

    Did anybody realise that the car park adjacent to Fort Harrison was entirely EMPTY?
    Did DM fear car bombs or spies?
    The other car park across the pink church does not belong to the cult, or has that changed?
    What was written on the sign under the gazebo? Does it say: “no electrical devices”?

    • MaxSpaceman

      Yeah, noticed that too. I thought it was empty because they expected people to fill it. That would hold 1,000 or 1,500 standing.

    • Lurkness

      Sign says: “All electronic devices prohibited! Turn off all electronic devices. Do not violate this.”

      • DodoTheLaser

        Clearly, the Sign Tech didn’t work. Will they ever learn…

  • Sibs

    Couldn’t sleep, then I finally realized the money question that’s been nagging at me (and I dunno who’s online to answer this).

    Before Jenna joined the Sea Org (when she was a reeeeeally little kid), to her Scientology was all about past lives and being able to fly out of your own body – from that perspective, Scientology seems to be more about freedom and romantic fantasy lives and imagination (Jenna hoped that she had been a princess in a previous life). What was the point where she went from that to a mindset of fear and doubt? Specifically, I mean. More than just joining the Sea Org.

    I guess that’s a question for everyone else too but I would think that you guys would have many different answers for me.

    (if I don’t answer it’s either because I’ve fallen back asleep or I’m withdrawing back into my little bubble. Realized today that I needed to take a break from the internet in general because last night’s awesome Bunker Night, while fun, was stepping a little far out of my social comfort bubble and I needed to recharge my social batteries.)

    • Drat

      Only Jenna will be able to answer that.

      My take: little disappointments and betrayals add up. She had tried to escape when she was about 11, so already new she wasn’t in the greatest place on Earth. Enough ethics actions and people putting impossible demands on you and then yelling at you because you couldn’t do them do undermine your faith in life after a while, if you actually had any to begin with. Childhood abandonment can lead to a dysfunctional emotional, social and cognitive development, leaving you without a firm footing in life (I believe you can retrain yourself with a therapist, but for the time being are in a shitty place and only have coping and hiding mechanisms to deal with it).

      When I was in the cadet org, I often fled into my imagination, dreamt some rich hitherto unknown relative would come in a Rolls and take my mum and me away to live in a mansion.

      • Sibs

        Thank you! Your insight is very informative too.

        • Tory Christman

          Agreed..you’d have to ask Jenna. I know for me, getting “in” as a Hippie at 22 and a TOTAL “Free speech advocate”, and I literally escaped out at 53! I’ve had to look back and think: WTF happened? How did *I* get from where I was to this super following of KSW and all that goes w/ that? My theory is for most…it’s a long, slow train of covert mind control, so you don’t realize it’s happening to you. Also Peer pressure is BIG when it comes to changing how people think. Exp: you KNOW s/t is not working for you. But, SO many people around you are going on and on about how it DOES work, you look so “Clear” or “OT” or whatever, that you (not even knowingly) adjust how you think. And slowly—-one changes from a princess to s/one hauling rocks, or me opening up phony Internet accounts that later I found out OSA was using to STOP free speech on the Net. (Once I did find that out, I soon after fully woke up, escaped out…and have been free from it ALL ever since :)Good question! Best to you! Tory/Magoo

          • Sibs

            Tory, even though I’ve forgotten the exact words you said, I will never forget the way that guy’s expression changed when you spoke to him. Not in the eyes, but everywhere else on his face, your words had such an effect. Sorry, just had to tell you that before I went back to bed because earlier I was telling one of my best friends about what happened last night and that still sticks out for me.

            • Tory Christman

              Me too, Sibs…that was literally one of THE best examples I’ve had of talking to a Sea Org member and he getting what I said. (And no, I won’t say what it is, or they’ll use it against him and my ever saying it again) :) It was awesome! Thanks for mentioning it. I’ve been thinking of that, too, since it happened. I’m SO happy we went over there after the show. And I saw the show last night! All I can say is ***wow**** I Adored it. Great meeting you and all others, too. We (all near by) should get together again, soon. :)

            • Tory Christman

              PS: Actually I think it’s OK to day it, as the effect already happened. IF OSA tries to rag on him, it will only help more. What happened is this security guard was standing…quite a bit like a Nazi/Robot/Tough guy: Legs out, arms crossed, super mean look. I looked at him and I said: “I want you tonight to stand just as you are now, think just as you are now…and LOOK in a mirror. LOOK at yourself. Because I can tell you this: This is NOT you. This is NOT who you were when you joined Scientology”. (remember: He smiled and melted at that point). I said: “Remember what you were like when you joined: This is not who you were, and I don’t even know you”. We all were happily surprised to see him melt, even if for a short second or two. It was SO dramatic—I hope, I pray it helps him wake UP more.

            • Aslansown

              Tory, I just saw this. How very cool! You really reached something in him. That must have been so touching to see, even if it was only for a few seconds. Wish I could have been there.

    • Lurkness

      Great seeing you at TomKat. Get some rest!

  • media_lush

    Last post…. totally off topic but somehow appropriate… came across this hilarious 21 worst Yugoslavian album covers ever…. I think the shoopsters here will find some great source material for future Davey and Tom stuff

    (Try and spot Cruise, Travolta, COB etc)

    http://justsomething.co/the-21-most-ridiculous-yugoslav-album-covers-ever/

    • Sydjazz

      I love these

  • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

    I have done a very generous estimation:
    Area of the triangle in pixels: 283 height * 289 base / 2 = 40893.5 square pixels
    The square is 25*25 square pixels. In that square there are less than 50 people.
    To be on the safe side I assume there could be 75 people standing.
    And I also count the empty space in the triangle as filled.
    This results in 40893.5 / (25*25) = 65.43 squares equivalent.
    65.43 * 75 people = 4907.25 people

    This is a very generous calculation. It includes all Sea Org members, all students, all SPs, David Superstar and the police. It excludes M&M.

    Therefore the highest number you can come up with on that event is: 4900 people.

    • Lurkness

      Nice work on the upper possible number!

    • KJP in Portland

      Hi BFM, I’ve been squinting all day and night at those pics trying to count. I can’t get past 3,000 no matter how I keep looking and trying to make geometric equations. I’d be generous at the 3,000-3,100 mark, which would be your 50 people in a 25×25 sq pixel. I’d leave out the fudge-factor of 25%

      I wish they had turnstiles, but that would just add to DM’s embarrassment!

      • Sydjazz

        Wow you two are very dedicated

      • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

        My fudge-factor was +50%.
        50*1.5 = 75

      • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

        I would say the lower boundary is 2500.
        Subtracting sea org members and students,
        then 1000 to 3400 made it to Florida from worldwide.
        According to DMs official statistics this would be
        – maybe 10% of all Scientologists of that area
        – 0.034% of all Scientologists worldwide
        – 0.000049% of the world population

        LOL, the biggest event ever in history.
        This will turn around the situation on planet Teegeeack.
        Hotels were fully booked ;)

    • koki

      you can go to Mike B. site and zoom pics,it easy to count…

      http://www.flickr.com/photos/truthrevealed/

      • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

        I counted the chairs now. There are roughly 230.
        So my estimation is still ok.
        I think 4000 people altogether is a pretty good number.
        So roughly 2500 made it to Clearwater.
        I know, you guys want lower numbers. But this is what I get.

        • DodoTheLaser

          4,000 is a good estim.
          Definitely not more though.
          Thank you.

  • Sydjazz

    Hey did shelley come out of the hole?

    • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

      Sure! The beloved lady of our dear leader was allowed to take part in the biggest 15 year event ever. Her job was to clean the toilets at Fort Harrison … with a toth brush.

    • tetloj

      Not sure, but Laurisse had a front row seat.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Subtle Answer Award. ROFL!

  • HappyGoLucky

    DM is going to be piiissssssssssssssed! It might be funny now for the rest of us, but retaliation could be massive over this for Mike and company. All I can say is, sorry, but be prepared…

    • DodoTheLaser

      Prepared for what? More lame character assassination? Pffft.

      • Miss Tia

        Remote controlled helicopter tech?

  • DodoTheLaser

    Such a great shot, imo.
    I will just leave it here.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Ayyyyyyy Dios Mio… May I print it , frame it and put on my desk? Maybe some day I could get an autograph? Maybe Tony will promote his book in Poland? I can dream for a while:)

      Tony is great inspiration for many as perfect example of journalistic integrity and consistency

      • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

        Yes, Poland some day.
        But the first copy must be sold in Portland!

        • DodoTheLaser

          After NY and Cincinnati.

          • And I don’t rent cars!

            Cincinnati?

            • DodoTheLaser

              Yeah, Cincinnati is a sikrit US capital, that powered by the Time Machine.
              Also, DC and LA. Also, Hamburg, Moscow and Sydney. For starters.

            • And I don’t rent cars!

              ;-) Thanks.
              Fabulous photo of Tony too!

  • Jeb Burton

    I love live events on Tonys site. There is nothing better. Especially when its an epic fail for the cult. I was trying to watch the bucs game, but every commercial had to come back to check on the very funny commentators.Great job Tony,

  • EnthralledObserver

    Good stuff coming in about an hour and a half, I see… I hadn’t seen Tony’s announcement earlier. Can’t play too long as I am on solo Mumma duty as of about an hour ago, but to heck with an ‘early’ night now!!!

    • DodoTheLaser

      9:33 pm?

      • EnthralledObserver

        8:36pm says my clock, but it could be out a few minutes either way. :)

        • DodoTheLaser

          Cool. You got plenty of time, Mama Queen! :)

          • EnthralledObserver

            I have plenty of time just to read, but then all the real fun starts – comments galore… that’s the part that really kills me; can’t tear myself away to go to bed.
            Kids cleaning teeth now, and then will be heading to bed (only ten minutes late ;) ) then it’s just a waiting game…
            Dishes… what dishes???

            • DodoTheLaser

              I hear you. But we keep it going 24/7 ;) Thanks to you and many others.

            • EnthralledObserver

              We do do our best to have this Bunker machine grind on, don’t we? Luckily Tony keeps her well oiled with new stories for us to chew on. :)

            • DodoTheLaser

              To chew on, as well as act, create and participate.

              The Bunker is a lot more then a bunch of thankful, snarky chair warriors.
              It’s a phenomena and a force of nature. :)

            • tetloj

              It really is 24/7 isn’t it

            • DodoTheLaser

              It is. Thank you, Tetloj.

            • FromPolandWithLove

              Yes it is :), I’m ready to join day shift:)

            • DodoTheLaser

              Dzień dobry, dear friend!

            • FromPolandWithLove

              :):):) Dziękuję ( It means thank You)

            • DodoTheLaser

              I know. :) :) You are very welcome!

    • Charlotte

      Making a pot of coffee….
      Not that I need it when I have Night Feeding Tech

      • tetloj

        When I was feeding babies I only had dreadful TV to watch.!

        • Charlotte

          Thanks to iview, I have Doctor Who on tap

          • EnthralledObserver

            That would nearly take the pain away… :)

          • tetloj

            Do you remember GP? I used to watch reruns of that with my eldest.

            • EnthralledObserver

              GP? General Practice?

            • tetloj

              It was an ABC show called GP – and yes, it was about doctors. ’80’s show.

            • EnthralledObserver

              I remember an old drama called General Practice… a different one to the one you are talking about though – Ii think I vaguely recall the one you mean, Not sure if I watched much of it.

            • Charlotte

              I don’t recall that, but no doubt in about 2 weeks I’ll be standing in the shower and have a light bulb moment.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Oh coffee now would kill me – I would be up all night. I left night-feeding behind at least five years ago… it would have to be a school holiday and a guaranteed sleep-in and a VERY special story to make me do that – I like my sleep.

        • Charlotte

          I like sleep too…what I can remember of it.
          I do this thing now I call ‘rest equivalent’. Every time I’m sitting down (driving counts) I tell myself it’s almost as good.

          It isn’t.

          • EnthralledObserver

            lol… it’s all in the shore story… just ask LRonny or Davey, right? LOL

            • EnthralledObserver

              i.e In case that was too criptic… you tell yourself what you need to hear. :)

            • Charlotte

              Yes, but I’m getting annoyed with myself telling myself ‘sleep is overrated’.

            • EnthralledObserver

              That is the down side, yes… ;)

            • Charlotte

              A friend today told me as we crossed paths on the school run that she was running on my level of sleep and now needs to develop my sense of humour to cope with it.

          • tetloj

            It is remarkable how you survive though.

          • Interested

            This sleeplessness – All it is is practice for when they are teenagers and going out. Get your life sleep from 6 to 14 years old….(of your kids of course) -:))

  • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

    this is a part of a snapshot from the TampaBay video

    • BosonStark

      I don’t get this — no cameras even? How would clams tweet their theta if no cell phones?

      • tetloj

        Some of them seemed to ignore this anyway, giving us tasty views over the weekend.

        • Miss Tia

          And once hunted down they’ll be having months of sec checks.

  • chukicita

    So while the corn’s popping for this morning’s news, was *anyone* from CSI’s board was at any of the CW events this weekend?

  • Sunny Sands

    I didn’t see Nancy Cartwright in any photos. Any other celebs MIA, e.g. Danny Masterson, Jenna & Bohdi?

    • EnthralledObserver

      What about Juliette Lewis… wasn’t there some clue regarding her new project that she might be out or heading that way?

      • tetloj

        She’s another interesting one. There’ve been blind gossip item suggesting that she is on the way out.

        • DodoTheLaser

          I so would love it, if it’s Juliette! They can keep Jenna and Bodhi (not really).

          • tetloj

            I was going to comment on her family connections making it difficult but then I thought about Leah.

            I read a comment today that there is such little depth in Scientology membership now that ANY departure has deep impacts on those remaining in terms of severed relationships.

            • DodoTheLaser

              Leah it is. Juliette next.

  • Jeb Burton

    Todays TBT headline, 1a above the fold, “GEM OPENS IN PRIVATE”. Tony, cant wait for todays story. I have a feeling a hollywood celeb is involved.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Might the new story be Leah has finally granted Tony an in-depth interview? *crosses fingers* OR A sighting/catch=up with Shelly? *even better – crosses legs*

    • tetloj

      Shelly? That’s a thought.

      • EnthralledObserver

        I’d give almost anything for shelly to give Tony the dirt on Davey whilst he was busy fleecing and deceiving his flock.

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Tony said Radar and Daily Mail would piggyback on the story almost immediately, so we can safely assume it involves a celebrity. He already ruled out Cruise and Travolta. Envelope to my forehead, I predict that the name either begins with an “L” or contains an “L”

      • EnthralledObserver

        I like the Shelly idea better, but I’ll take $celebrity as a close running substitute. :)

  • DodoTheLaser

    About 16 minutes before Tony drops a bomb.

    • EnthralledObserver

      But who is counting…????
      ..
      ….
      ME!!!!!!!!!

      • Just Dee1

        Me too!

      • DodoTheLaser

        Whole bunch of us!!! :)

      • FromPolandWithLove

        And me, Polish girl from Silesia, (big mug of cooffee and cat on my laps)

    • tetloj

      Browser tabs opened and loaded to Radar and Daily Mail…

    • Noni Mause

      I feel like Kirstie standing in front of a microwave oven…

      • EnthralledObserver

        lol

        • Mooser

          I love your avatar. It’s regal.

          • EnthralledObserver

            :) Thank you. It’s me playing dress-up (hubby’s work Christmas party last year) – adults do not do that enough in my opinion ;).

      • DodoTheLaser

        Stop making me laugh. It’s a serious business!

      • EnthralledObserver

        Funny story – I went to the fridge for my second dessert of the night to help me with the wait… when I opened it up a plate and cup fell out and the contents splattered all over the floor – gravy (cup), tomato and cucumber (plate). Moral of the story – one dessert would have been enough.
        Good news, as I worked off a calorie or two cleaning up the mess I figured I had earned the second dessert after all. :D

        • Noni Mause

          The universe is wiiiise……

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    I’ve seen more people show up for a new store opening in a suburban strip mall in Jackson, Mississippi. Color me unimpressed. Enjoy.

    • EnthralledObserver

      There are more people here waiting for Tony’s new bombshell story!

  • Deeana

    I’ve never been online awaiting a posting before. How does it work?

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      You need to go get a beverage or a snack and find a comfortable spot.

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        popcorn helps.

    • FromPolandWithLove

      You keep refreshing site, and observing new comments, and drinking coffee, and biting nails, and refreshing ….

    • Great White Clam

      It helps to have a cat in your lap. Two cats are even better.

  • Walter Mitty

    part 4

  • Walter Mitty

    part 3

  • Walter Mitty

    part 2

  • Walter Mitty

    Tony Orega rules the world. He is founder of the underground bunker, executive editor of The Raw Story and in his spare time he doing stunts. Here in the new volvo commercial.

  • Great White Clam

    As I wait, I wonder how many others are waiting too. There’s only about 7 minutes left.

    • DodoTheLaser

      It’s you and me. Heh. :)

      • Need to know

        and me.

      • EnthralledObserver

        ME!

      • Great White Clam

        Thumbs up. :)

      • FromPolandWithLove

        And me:)

      • Noni Mause

        Skooch over, y’all…

    • http://BareFacedMessiah.wordpress.com/ BareFacedMessiah

      Tony doesn’t sell iPhones ;)

    • And I don’t rent cars!

      :-)

  • Snuzey

    Go on Tony, its only 7 minutes early for the posting….

  • And I don’t rent cars!

    Homeland Security or Justice Dept and Dear Leader of Co$ and Sea Org?

    • FromPolandWithLove

      Everyone smile and wave to SeaOrg watchers:)

      • Great White Clam

        Don’t forget OSA! They need love too.

  • nottrue

    Its 400am .I cant sleep.Excited

  • Great White Clam

    Ding!

  • FromPolandWithLove

    NEW POST

    • FromPolandWithLove

      EXCLUSIVE: First Interview with the Principal of Will & Jada Smith’s Shuttered Scientology School

  • EnthralledObserver

    10 pm here… but we’ve already established my clock might be a few minutes fast…

  • Yeppir

    The rise of the Valkyries. Is no one else hearing that in their head everytime they see the helicopters? I can’t stop it from playing in my head…

  • Great White Clam
  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    The helicopter buzzing the event reminded me of the evil flying monkeys in The Wizard of Oz. Enjoy.

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    Did anybody else recognize that helicopter as the one they used to stop the hurricane on Sharknado? Enjoy.

    • Missionary Kid

      I didn’t bother with Sharknado, but was the N-number (registration number) on the side the same? Robinson R-44 helicopters are quite common. As a matter of fact, more of them are produced than any other type.

  • http://thetimchannel.wordpress.com/ The Tim Channel

    So close to Thanksgiving, I would have expected Rinder to pull a “WKRP in Cincinnati” and bomb the crowd with frozen turkeys. Enjoy.

  • Googleisyourfriend

    i love the midget’s droning, muffled key words and phrases, time worn, barely emerging through the noise-fog of the helicopter! LOVE IT!!

  • DamOTclese2

    Well that was great fun. :) Still reading the comments, checking the photos. I hope David is still screaming and stomping his little feet in anger and frustration, filing all kinds of criminal complaints and summoning his lawyers, trying to see which wogs he can punish. :)

    • Ruby

      I agree! I can’t stop laughing at this! The 2 Mikes, in the helicopter…brilliant!!

  • roxhum

    I know I am late posting. Whether read or not I wanted to speak my mind.

    1st I want to start acknowledging what an awesome job Tony does in reporting to all of us. I truly appreciate his style and writing and the bunker is the first thing I read every morning.

    2. I lurk here and I am annoyed by the squabbling and disrespectful behavior of some of the posters. November 16th was squabbling over a difference of opinion and accusations and derogatory remarks were made. Shame on all of you. I was hoping to find post of people in Florida reporting on the event but got disgusted and left the sight hoping Tony would post on anything note worthy that may have come up.

    3rd as I ponder this morning. I know those in and now out are pissed at the amount of your life taken from you by the”cult” and the “cults” behavior towards you. I enjoy the antics of the Mikes and the helicopter and the pictures they were able to get. But the thought that comes to my mind is, although it was fun pissing of the little dictator, what is the objective? Do you want to convince people to get the hell out and hear and believe the truth about the human rights issues etc etc etc? I am afraid that flying over their event and disrespectfully refusing to leave for 15 minutes when asked just justifies and confirms, to the cult members, the lies the “cult” tells them about the Mike and Marty’s of the world. Did the helicopter incident help or hurt the overall objective?

    • John P.

      Thanks for putting up your first post. I’ll only address your third point, though I certainly dislike bickering in this forum as much as you do.

      although it was fun pissing of the little dictator, what is the objective?

      There’s actually a very real objective in play, which Mike & Mike either intuitively or overtly grasped: keeping your opposition off balance causes them to make mistakes. This idea goes back to Sun Tzu’s The Art of War, first published about 2,500 years ago. If you control the time and place of the battle, you’re way more than halfway to victory. He who doesn’t shape the battlefield faces an uphill fight from the opening shot. And demoralizing an opponent by attacking at a moment they might consider a time of triumph has the most leverage of any attack you can make.

      What’s the practical effect of this move? Miscavige has been increasingly paranoid about outsiders getting a hold of his speeches and mocking him on the Internet. He appears to be obsessed with what outsiders, particularly ex’s say about him, despite his media strategy, which appears to be “tell the press to fuck off and go away.”

      Last year, a tabloid reporter easily snuck into the IAS event in the UK; this was an embarrassing lack of security. In May, at the opening of the Portland Ideal Org, the cult was responding to the London disaster by having unprecedented security and area control for the event, checking ID’s and prohibiting electronic devices. When they discovered that Mark Bunker (“Wise Beard Man”) had cut a deal with the store across the street to put a hidden camera up with a great sight line to the stage, Miscavige lost it, and ultimately ended up turning the sound down so that his speech can’t be recorded, and he also appeared to cut short the event.

      Both of those events shaped the current reality: he moved the big tent from the UK to the US, where he probably thinks he has better security for the IAS event than he could get in the UK (it was easy for people to sneak onto the Saint Hill property from adjoining fields). But better security in response to Bunker’s little prank comes at a cost: he has basically killed the European event business, and by doing so, has probably hastened the decay in the European Scientology orgs — the rich donors from Europe who have been propping up the cult over there are not that likely to come all the way to the (tasteless, low-brow) US for an event. The biggest event of the year is probably going to gross a lot less going forward.

      While you are correct that many people still in the cult will be able, through thought stopping and cognitive dissonance, to think that the attacks on the cult and on Miscavige must mean Scientology is important and successful, not everyone will be swayed that way. While I can’t accurately predict that attrition will accelerate specifically as a result of this event, I strongly suspect that bad knee-jerk decisions made as a result of this event (more security, more sec checking of people who posted event details on Facebook, etc.) will ultimately accelerate the exodus, and we should start to see people whose “Aha!” moment was shortly after this and the upcoming IAS event appearing in the next couple of months.

      I thus believe that yesterday’s stunt is important in causing Miscavige to withdraw even more from reality, and thus to make even worse decisions. Because the events business is such a money maker, any damage to the event business significantly reduces cult profitability, and when they start eating into reserves, the decision making process is likely to become even more insane — Miscavige can rationalize almost any idiotic decisions, as long as the reserves go up every year. But if reserves start getting depleted, that’s when the death spiral begins.

      • Bleuler

        Good lord, that is one of your better post John, and that’s saying a lot.

      • roxhum

        Thank you so very much for your response. It gives me a new and broader perspective that I had not considered before. I appreciate your contributions to the forum.

      • Jgg2012

        The point is that 2 million Americans are in cults. 80,000 people a year currently join cults, which is to say about 1/50 of the 4 million Americans who are born each year fall for them. The more Cultism (as opposed to religious behavior, which is simply following a belief system) is atttacked, the better off we all are. Already, Scientology’s recruitment has dropped from 50,000 a year at its peak circa 1990 to under 1,000 a year, by my estimates, and, as Scientology goes, so go the other Cults.

        • John P.

          It is important to point out that the recruitment rate of 1,000 per year (which seems to be reasonable) is below the replacement rate. It is probably also worth noting that each local org probably only sees a handful of new recruits per year (at least in the US, Western Europe and Australia), which may only account for half of that 1,000 number. The rest, alas, are children of members, who have been press-ganged into the Sea Org.

      • John P.

        A further thought: a Robinson R44 goes for about $500 per hour, plus perhaps a bit more for a pilot, insurance, etc. So for less than $2,000, Mike & Mike had an opportunity to rattle Miscavige significantly. Perhaps even enough to cause him to make a potentially significant mistake that could potentially bury the events business for good as he worries about his personal security and about his image. I don’t think his personal security is at much risk, because most ex’s are having too much fun laughing at him. And his image is none too good except in the presence of the most rabid Kool-Aid drinkers.

        So why do this now instead of at the Portland Ideal Org opening? Because Miscavige has another great opportunity to screw up, in just two short weeks, at the biggest-grossing event of the year.

        I bet you that Rinder and Bennitt will look back in a couple years and tell you that this $2,000 was the best two grand they ever spent, both in terms of the fun value and in terms of the gravel it dumps in Miscavige’s gearbox.

        The IAS event, this year more than ever, needs to be about revenue growth. But as a result of the first mission of Viper Squadron 1 of the Apostate Air Force, it will be all about trying to plug imagined security leaks. It’s entirely possible that Miscavige will postpone the event entirely while he tries to figure out what other leaks might exist that those evil SP’s might try to exploit. That would be a $20 million mistake at least, a 1000-to-1 return on investment…

        • ze moo

          He’ll just rent all the helicopters for a 500 mile radius. For the entire weekend.

          • John P.

            I doubt that will work. The helicopter pictured in yesterday’s story was registered to a shell company in Michigan that shares an address with a warehouse owned by a privately held company. It doesn’t appear that the aircraft involved is owned or leased to a charter operator.

            It’s possible that Mike Bennitt was able to use this particular helicopter due to a personal relationship instead of by simply showing up and chartering it. If that’s the case, then taking all the charter helicopters in Florida off line for the weekend won’t do much good.

            Sorry, Davey!

          • Great White Clam

            Thanks for the investment advice…

        • Bella Legosi

          A drive to Clearwater, FL: $5.00 gas.

          Renting a Robinson R44: $500.00 per hour

          Enturbulating a cult leader and cutting his speech short?

          Priceless

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Well said, and I also think that the tight security that apparently kept a lot of members away made it more difficult to convince them of the value of the exciting event, since they didn’t even get to participate.

    • Tory Christman

      Welcome, roxhum and thanks for posting! 1) I agree…Tony O is doing a fantastic job of exposing this insidious cult of $cientology. 2) Agreed re any bickering: always a waste of energy and space. (and a key product of OSA, I might add: Distraction is one of their 3 goals, and “Bickering” adds to that. And I am NOT saying we cannot disagree. Constant bickering and disagreements are two very different things) 3) I know what you’re saying about OSA using what happened. You have to keep in mind, NO MATTER WHAT Happens…OSA will constantly make up shit about we ex-scientologists and critics. It is part of their Bible: “The Art of War”.

      The FACT is: Due to what Mike and Mike did, “Dave’s” Pitch (no doubt planned to run the “You need to help donate TODAY” “Super P Will help save Planet Earth” etc was CUT from 30 minutes or more, down to 8 minutes! It also gave a live demo of how “David Miscavige’s TR’s (Esp TR 0: The ability to confront (face) anything at any time) is NILL, zip, zero, not “in”. Same for his “OT Powers”. IF he were “OT” …(And I know this happens as my husband was OT 8 and people would ask him questions like this ALL THE TIME: “Can’t he make that helicopter go away?” Remember most of the people there are NOT OT 8, None of the staff are. So? In their minds, Davey boy is NOT very “OT”. And why should they pay for their OT levels (or Super Power) if the leader of $cientology isn’t even OT? That’s how I see it ..my 2 cents :)

      • roxhum

        Tory, It is an honor that you responded to my post, and thank you for the information.

        Just a little back ground on me. My ex-husband was a Scientologist at the Orange County mission in the 80’s. I took a couple courses and I was harassed because I did not want to take additional courses and eventually I was labeled a PTS. My husband left me after that. I was given the ultimatum to go with him to the LA org or he would leave. I showed him the door.

        What brought me to the bunker is a year ago I got a call from Scientology requesting contact information for my children. I was pissed. My now adult children were just little kids back then. They may have played with Laura DeCrescenzo. I told the them to take me out of their data base. I have been receiving their crap in the mail ever since. Multiple copies addressed to me and my son.

        • Lurkness

          I hope all of your children are safe and out of the cult. Kudos to you for standing strong. Tory also shares with you the OC connection. Tragic story about her husband’s accident there and how they “treated” him, even as an OT.

          • roxhum

            Thanks lurkness. My ex divorced my kids along with me. He also ended up moving to another state and left scientology. So yeah, my kids are safe. I didn’t appreciate how close we came and how devastating it could have been until I started reading about scientology this summer.

    • Her_Royal_Blondeness

      To be upfront, I will say that my point of view is from a “never-in”. It seems to me that if I spent the time, energy, and money to go to the “greatest event in the history of Scientology”, at the very least, I would expect to see and hear the leader of my “religion” give an inspiring and uplifting speech that lasted more than 8 minutes. I would probably also have expected to see other high level Scientologists (i.e. people who donated hundreds of thousands of dollars to the building fund) speak about what this new building means to them and the great benefits it will provide the Scientology community. Bearing that in mind, I might question why they would “allow” that pesky helicopter to disrupt their shining moment. If even ONE person begins to question their involvement in the cult, if ONE person decides to do some research online, if ONE person leaves because of the “great helicopter caper”, then I say it is more than worth the $2,000 that was spent.

      • Mooser

        “at the very least, I would expect to see and hear the leader of my
        “religion” give an inspiring and uplifting speech that lasted more than 8
        minutes.”

        I’m sure the most inspiring and uplifting thing about the speech was that it only lasted eight minutes! Many Scientologists consider it a bona fide miracle. They were spared a terrible ordeal.

    • Mooser

      “Did the helicopter incident help or hurt the overall objective?”

      Well, why didn’t they just let him (Rinder) in so he wouldn’t have to go through all that trouble and expense?

      Besides, I ask you, what kind of decent, self-respecting, modern, with-it, cult leader doesn’t have disgruntled ex-followers willing to go through a lot of time and trouble to bring them down? Only pretty mediocre ones, I would say.
      And besides, and I think you will admit this is dispositive, ( a word I learned here) getting a free ride in a helicopter and shooting video with professional cameras is a blast!

    • Lurkness

      Roxhum, to try to add to the excellent responses already, I think it is worth noting, that word may leak to those inside $cientology that it was Mike Rinder, someone many should know as a former high-ranking executive and once the public face of $ciendollary, was in that helicopter. This factoid alone could start some to wonder and have their doubts. Indeed, how could such an SP rise to the highest levels of the organization (#3) if the tech worked? True, others could become more committed by the “antics” of this SP, but, as noted, how could the chirch not stop him from doing it with their amazing powers.

      Second, there was/is the possibility that the flying apostates could attract additional media attention, shining further light on Mike’s exit and the abuses of the cult. Certainly, it highlights the secretive nature of the cult and the lengths they go to prevent public scrutiny, let alone access. Why is that? Shouldn’t they be proud of the dedication this new building (15+ years in the making) and the release of GAT II that they would have us believe is the only hope in saving mankind?

      Third, you may not have been around for the shooping and exaggerations the cult regularly engages in about how the membership is growing explosively and the attendance for their events is massive and growing. The photographic proof, eliminates their ability to falsify the actual record that less than 4,000, and probably closer to less than 3,000, were in attendance for the BIGGEST EVENT in this Universe and others.

      Finally, The Dwarfenfurhrer’s reaction to this, and that it happened at all, establishes he is at “effect” and not at cause, even at their spiritual mecca and holy of holies. And that, pulls the curtain back on his many frauds.

      • Lurkness

        see also the chirch’s on the ground rules…..

        • valshifter

          the cult is becoming a little north Korea

      • roxhum

        Thanks Lurkness.

    • ThetaBara

      Hi Roxhum,

      Glad you and your kids escaped the evil clutches of the cult!
      If the comments get ridiculous over here, you can try selecting “Best” which shows you the comments with the most votes. I also recommend John P’s excellent blog which has a recap on most days, featuring the nest of scion news from here and around the web, including the best comments from here. http://www.johnpcapitalist.com/ is the hookup.

      FWIW, I always try my best to be friendly in person (I’m an Anon and regularly “raid” my local org). I totally agree that if we act like jerks it will prove the propaganda about what SPs and degraded beings we all are. I can understand the more harsh approach, especially from people who’ve been raiding since the days when they would come out and bullbait, but I think we need to show we are better than that at this point in time. We are not the bad guys so let’s not act like it.

      I think that getting aerial photos was really valuable. No fisheye, no shooping, no way to fudge the number of attendees. And I can hardly blame Rinder for refusing to move. Miscavige used to punch him and call him a ser fac’y cocksucker, so I can’t really see him being into doing what the guy wants now.

      • roxhum

        ThetaBara, thank you for your comment. That is exactly how I was feel, that you can be more effective if you behave respectful and polite. However I understand if you have been abused inside and harassed outside you would have a different perspective. I just had my baby toe in 25 years ago and felt harassed by them with 6 phone calls in one afternoon. When I was declared a PTS they were very mean and rude.
        What does anon mean?

        • Cece

          all me
          213-880-3661. Anon were helping us even b4 we knew we need help.

        • Lurkness

          anon=Anonymous, individuals that collectively began protesting the CoS, among other causes, after CoS tried to censor the internet and suppress free speech rights.

          • roxhum

            Of course! I should have known that. I got it confused with Al Anon.
            Thank you.

      • Cece

        Thx u to all who have spoke out. Thank you for all u loss. Just thx to all the alexanders…

    • Cece

      I think it hurt.

      • Cece

        Or it helped.
        depends on where you r sitting at.

    • Cece

      But it was better then nothing.

  • Jgg2012

    If Co$’s number dwindle any more, Davey may leave the country. I don’t know where he can migrate, so he will have to start his own principality. What would he name it? Here are my suggestions: Smackistan, Slappia, Dwarfland, Slapistan, Cultia, Daviland, Thetacan, Elronia.

    • Her_Royal_Blondeness

      He can just catch the next tornado out of Kansas and go to Munchkinland. He would fit right in.

    • Guest

      what about Scamia

      • Guest

        scamislavia sounds better

    • valshifter

      what about Scamislavia

  • no_srsly

    I’m glad we have M & M’s vid…Co$ won’t be able to shoop repeat people in their own pics to say more people attended than really did. True numbers exposed.

  • TheCommodeDoor

    I’d be interested in seeing pictures taken of the area on Grand Opening day +1 – as well as +2 and so on to get some idea as to how this was received. How long will the tents and road closures be up? Who’s going to strike everything? What’s traffic in and out of the building like?

  • ML

    Another celebrity is going to blow soon – I just know it!!! GREAT JOB.

  • JackTheGiantKiller

    The sign in this picture: http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/Extras.jpg says “Extras Parking”.

    When I think of “extras” I think of people who are hired during the filming of a movie to play the part(s) of people on the street. That is, they aren’t really actors (or $cientologists in this case) but they are “paid warm bodies” to create a scene has a lot of people in it. Could this be?

  • AintMizBahavin

    from the daily ooze i mean news

    “They are not interested in letting the public know what’s inside their building,” a bystander told the Times.

    City officials were told to expect 10,000 people, though the numbers
    appeared less, according to the newspaper. Clearwater is apparently
    known to have a large population of Scientologists.

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/tom-cruise-john-travolta-attend-scientology-cathedral-opening-article-1.1520927

    The ceremony was for parishioners only
    but even born-and-bred Scientologists couldn’t get into the exclusive
    dedication ceremony.
    —————————————————————————————————————————–
    Danielle
    Lumberg is a third-generation Scientologist who belongs to the church
    in Clearwater, but wasn’t allowed past the thick security surrounding
    the new buidling.

    Instead, she stood outside the event and tried to get as good a look at the new building as possible.

    ‘It sounds like Disney World in there,’ she told the Tampa Bay Tribune.

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2509331/The-house-Scientology-built-Tom-Cruise-John-Travolta-row-145m-cathedral-members-trained-develop-super-powers.html

  • Nicola Anna Molly Page

    I usually lurk, but this has inspired me to post a wee funny pic. I can only imagine how furious whatshisface is (never can remember how to spell DM’s name!).

    I’ve often wondered if it’s got to the point where there are more ex (or independent) sci’s than members of CO$ at this point. Anybody have a clearer idea? Love the work you all do :)

  • George Diaz

    Wow! Look at the *millions* of Scientologists overrunning the streets of the city where even the water is *clear* and tens of thousands, *0T*. In the next few years this city will have to undergo an *exponential expansion* to be able to accommodate, perhaps, the *billions* of members of what is surely the fastest growing religion on planet earth; a religion which comprises the only technology of the mind and spirit capable of freeing mankind, developed by the greatest sci-fi writer of all-times, *Mr. L. Ron Hubbard*, the only true philanthropist and benefactor that ever lived and run by one of the “more competent, more intelligent, more tolerant & more compassionate beings outside of LRH…..and we’re lucky to have him,” according to “Freedom Medal for Valor” ‘whiner’, Tom Cruise, who has introduced over a billion peoples of earth to *Scientology.* And we ARE, indeed, lucky to have him because soon he may have to micromanage everything – as we all know he loves to do – from a *penitentiary facility* or from *Colombia*, somewhere; only because *EVIL SPs* are hard at work trying to destroy this legacy, this technology which *Mr. Chairman of the Bored, Admiral David Miscavige* has worked or tried tirelessly to protect. These are the times, people, these ARE the times! We’re almost there! To LRH! Hep! Hep!

  • Cece

    Interesting!