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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Scientology Celebrities Told Leah Remini is “Not in Good Standing,” Are Ordered to “Disconnect”

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The Underground Bunker has learned that Scientology celebrities have received their marching orders from the Hollywood Celebrity Centre: They cannot be “in comm” with Leah Remini after we broke the news last week that she has left the church.

Our inside church sources tell us that Scientology’s leading lights have been calling in to the Celebrity Centre for instructions since the news of her defection began to spread. As we reported earlier, chief among them was an angry Kirstie Alley, who demanded a briefing on Wednesday for herself and for other church celebrities.

Members calling the Celebrity Centre are being told that Remini has not yet been “declared a Suppressive Person” — Scientology’s equivalent of excommunication — but she is considered “not in good standing,” and celebrities are told that they cannot communicate with her, and must also immediately defriend her and any of her family members on Facebook.

When one of our sources asked for clarification on why Remini’s family also had to be avoided, a Celebrity Centre official said that Remini’s stepfather, George Marshall, had seen “an auditor in a squirrel group” for counseling. (In Scientology parlance, an auditor who continues to give counseling outside of the official church is a “squirrel” — a heretic.)

Meanwhile, it’s not only celebrities who are obediently following the church’s order to cut off ties with Remini. Our sources tell us that longtime Scientologist friends are suddenly dropping Remini from their lives in an effort that is being coordinated by an ethics officer named Julian Swartz at the Advanced Organization of Los Angeles.

We asked our sources for an example and were told about Remini’s former assistant, Jianine Giorgio, 29, who is scheduled to be married on July 28.

Giorgio is a Scientologist who had once worked for Remini but is now nurturing a career as a standup comic — a career that Remini had been encouraging by showing up at her performances. On April 18, Remini attended one of Giorgio’s shows, and the next morning, Giorgio let another comic, Tory Shulman, know that Remini had enjoyed her routine…

 
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A few minutes later, Giorgio retweeted Leah Remini’s statement of support for the group of comics, Pretty Funny Women…

 
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Over the weekend, however, a distraught Giorgio was overheard explaining to friends and family that she was forced to uninvite Remini from the upcoming wedding. On Monday, however, Giorgio retweeted a statement by Kirstie Alley that appeared to be aimed at our Sunday afternoon story…

 
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We submitted a message to Giorgio to call us, but we heard nothing back.

Another longtime Scientologist, Michelle Workman, touts herself as “one of Hollywood’s most sought-after interior designers,” and listed Leah Remini among her celebrity clients (and was a friend for more than 20 years).

 
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Remini helped promote Workman — here she’s seen helping the designer with a previous business.

For several years, here’s how the first paragraph of Workman’s “about” page read on her current website…

 
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Recently, Workman moved to Chattanooga, Tennessee, and just days ago, Remini’s name was removed from her website…

 
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Yesterday, we left a message for Workman on her cell phone. We haven’t received a call back.

Many of our readers have asked about Remini’s husband, Angelo Pagán, and whether he has also been affected by the church’s disconnection order.

We’ve kept watch on his Facebook, noticing some Scientologists defriending him in recent days. But we reported earlier that Remini’s family members have vowed to stick together.

For Pagán, that may present some real difficulties.

Our sources tell us that four years ago, Leah Remini provided seed money for a startup vitamin business owned by Pagán, the actor Michael Wiseman, and Stephen Price, a chiropractor whose clients include Scientology leader David Miscavige.

 
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Michael Wiseman in a scene from the series Vegas, with Ivana Milicevic

 
Price will obviously be under pressure because of his illustrious client, but Wiseman is also in a tough spot: His father, Bruce, is a longtime leader of Scientology’s anti-psychiatry front group, the Citizens Commission on Human Rights.

We will be watching to see if Pagán is forced to give up his interest in the business.

Meanwhile, records show that Remini’s stepfather, George Marshall, is a partner in MyActingSite.com with Eric Brownstone, husband to Melinda Brownstone, whose house, we reported Sunday, was the site of a briefing for Kirstie Alley and other celebrities designed to discredit and alienate Remini and her family.

We have requested information from Remini’s publicist about these businesses and whether they are under pressure to split apart.

In general, Pagán and Remini, we’re told, are stunned that their friends in Scientology are marching in lockstep with the church’s orders to cut ties with them.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on July 16, 2013 at 07:00

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  • Observer

    “Our inside church sources tell us that Scientology’s leading lights have been calling in to the Celebrity Centre for instructions since the news of her defection began to spread.” So much for Scientology’s “think for yourself” spiel.

    Scientology: making the formerly able completely unable to do anything without calling in for instructions.

    Hang in there, Leah. The world that’s crumbling around you isn’t real, and when it’s finally gone you’ll be free.

    • tetloj

      And confront; and the only people who know how to communicate….so happy for Leah. She will see it this way too soon enough.

    • John P.

      Scientology: making the formerly able completely unable to do anything without calling in for instructions.

      Pithy Scientology-in-a-nutshell image of the week.

      • Peter

        It really seems to be coming apart right in front of us. The “incestuous” relationships, business and otherwise, are making the entire debacle an absolute feeding frenzy for the news media, the papparazzi, the talk shows and, of course the supermarket newsstands where so much of America gets its news. Rather than having just one or two people to focus on, the cherch has offered up a plethora of media targets and connections. They have really greased their own slide with this one!!! Wheeeeeeeeeeeee!

      • OTVIIIisGrrr8!

        Our celebs are fully able and willing to call in for instructions. The consequences of not doing so are too dire.

    • shasha40

      The “Leading lights” look pretty dim to me. Even TC’s used to be sparkle is now ” glazed ” !

    • Racnad

      THINK FOR YOURSELF! (Unless LRH wrote or said something different or instructed otherwise).

    • monkeyknickers

      Yah! What Obs said smartfully.

      And I will translate to:

      Fuck. Them.

      • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

        Enjoy your Twinkie coma today.

        • monkeyknickers

          OHMIGOD REALLY?! It’s TRUE!??

          I’m miles from humanity! Grrrrrr . . . SHIT!

          Okay – regrouping. Re.Group.Ing.

          I will do anything for twinkies. ANYTHING. Excuse me a moment while I suckerpunch my own father for his truck keys. I’m kinda running low on gas.

          • Missionary Kid

            You might call first to find out if they’ve reached the closest community. They’re just ramping up.

            • FistOfXenu

              What he said. Mrs FOX sent me off site for a Twinkie run and I’m still sitting here drinking coffee and waiting for the delivery to arrive. “After lunch”. right.

              Call 1st.

            • monkeyknickers

              Sorry Fox . . . . . but let me tell you, DON’T GO HOME WITHOUT THE TWINKIES.

              I care about you and don’t want you hurt. :)

          • Minion Gayle

            Do we need to send a Mercy package (crate?) of Twinkies to those twins?

            • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

              I would say we should. Poor Monkey.

            • Minion Gayle

              I spent a week at Disneyland without any energy drinks (thanks to Enterprises’ screw up,) I still have deep sympathy for anyone doing without their fix.

    • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

      God, “Scientology: making the formerly able completely unable to do anything without calling in for instructions” really sums it up quite brilliantly. That is classic!

    • HelluvaHoax!
      • Observer

        “We’ll let you know if you change your mind” … priceless!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Good one, HH. Scientology, where the irony and harrassment never stops.

    • Karen de la Carriere

      Leah Remini revealed she had
      years of confessionals and any disaffection or speaking out is dealt
      with the “Truth Rundown” being enforced on the hapless target.

      I explain the Truth Rundown here ~~

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v

  • 1subgenius

    “In general, Pagán and Remini, we’re told, are stunned that their friends in Scientology are marching in lockstep with the church’s orders to cut ties with them.”

    Stunned, I tell you, stunned. How could they possibly have known this would happen? If only there was some ubiquitous source of information available to nearly everyone.

    • tetloj

      Yup- Leah needs to google ‘internet’

      • Phil McKraken

        My god. Hasn’t Remini been paying attention for the last 30 years? But then, it goes to show that there are nuances in the style of enthusiasm within the ranks. Remini may be somewhat oblivious, but at least she’s not one of those that leads the charge in defending the church against people who use to be, until quite recently, friends — a la Kirstie Alley.

        • shasha40

          I believe Tony reported Kirstie wasn’t even her friend, just an instigator.

        • 1subgenius

          No she hasn’t been paying attention. This seems to have started by what she saw, or didn’t see with her own eyes (no Shelley).
          “What you have observed….”
          LRH tech ironically at work.

          • ParticleMom

            “Look, don’t listen.”

      • Roger Larsson

        The ones born before 1950 have horrible memories. People born after WW2 live in the greatest era ever.

        First came WW1, then WW2 and then came WWW instead of WW3. People in different countries started to communicate with each other. Totalitarian leaders couldn’t get them to shoot each others down any more. The real enemy is cults and countries having a “we against the environmental world” war (game). Friends shoot each others up.

        Even scientologists starts to question their totalitarian leader and his real motives in a wider extension and it’s a good sign.

        It’s better to wake up late compared with never wakening up.

        • richelieu jr

          Sounds great– But do really think there aren’t several wars, shooting, “Hot’ wars going on right now?

          • Robert Eckert

            Outside of the Muslim world, “hot” wars have become exceedingly rare.

            • richelieu jr

              1) The “Muslim World’ is almost half of humanity, or a great big part; no just some codicil.
              2) I suppose we’re right ot keep fighting them ‘over there’ then.

              3) Iraq doesn’t count because it was in The Muslim World? Or does who who started it/Who participates count?

            • richelieu jr

              Hey, what just happened to the edit function.. I had it 19 minutes ago–Boy, if you guys think my spelling and grammar is bad NOW…

            • FistOfXenu

              DisQonnectus keeps having tantrums. Dammit!

            • Robert Eckert

              The Muslim world is 1/6 of the planet, but the vast majority of all political violence involves Muslims on at least one side.

            • richelieu jr

              Still doesn’t make the planet anything like war free, or not that many.

            • Robert Eckert

              People turning 68 in France or Germany have never had any war their whole lives. Do you know how long it has been since such a long period has gone by without a war there? Nobody does, because you would have to go back before recorded history, probably back to before there was any substantial human occupancy. The level of political violence is astonishingly low by historic standards, and continuing to fall. The Muslim world is a striking exception to the trend. The Great Lakes region of Africa is one of the few arenas of ongoing conflict with no Muslim involvement.

            • richelieu jr

              We just had a war in Libya. And we participated in the first Gulf War as well The Algerian War (otherwise known as ‘France’s Vietnam)ended 52 years ago, as for Indochine, which is what France called Vietnam, ended in 1954, s 59 years ago.. Still not seeing that “68” figure, nor can I imagine where you picked it up… I mean, seriously…

            • richelieu jr

              “People turning 68 in France or Germany have never had any war their whole lives.”

              OK, that would be people like me. I ma French. Let me light your lantern:
              We just had a war in Libya. And we participated in the first Gulf War as well The Algerian War (otherwise known as ‘France’s Vietnam)ended 52 years ago, as for Indochine, which is what France called Vietnam, ended in 1954, s 59 years ago.. Still not seeing that “68” figure, nor can I imagine where you picked it up… I mean, seriously…

              I can’t speak for most of your facts, but let’s hope to Ron they aren’t as egregiously wrong as that one.

            • Roger Larsson

              What happened to the loyal officers unable to do anything else than following Hitler’s orders. Israel picked them up in different countries on the planet. They got caught and stood in front of a judge in Haag for their crimes during the war. What’s Haag waiting for? Are the ones “guilty” guilty or just victims of Ron Hubbard’s false doctrine?

          • Roger Larsson

            It’s no longer a dangerous sport to criticize Scientology. It hasn’t got any teeth left. There’s more heat in real bullrings.

    • shasha40

      If only…roflmao!

    • FistOfXenu

      “..their friends in Scientology are marching in lockstep with the church’s orders to cut ties with them.”

    • USA MRIID

      That’s the thing. Don’t any of these idiots know how to use Google?

    • Lady Squash

      I know. It seems impossible one wouldn’t know. But you’ve heard the one about the Nile? It’s not just a river in Egypt. “Denial” is a universal disease. And Scientologists have got it bad.

  • 10oriocookies

    Scientology is as scientology does (Forest Gump voice). Its sucks that she has to go through the whole disconnection part but in the end, only her real friends will be left standing.

    • FistOfXenu

      This is the big thing. Realizing that the people that disconnect aren’t really friends.

      • richelieu jr

        And ass @samdomingo:disqus says- The ones who stay very often are worse…

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Does that need an edit…?

          • GlibWog

            Douglas.. I was thinkin the same thing.. ha

          • richelieu jr

            As usual, yes it does! However,my ‘edit’ function seems to be on and off (mostly off) on Disqus today..

    • Sam Domingo

      If there are any. Just sayin’. The only ones who didn’t disconnect when I came out were working as spies for the church. Do you find out who your friends are? The hell you do. And you find out the ones who would stab you in the heart for a trifle.

      • Sam Domingo

        Or a desperate bid for ‘spiritual freedom’. Pathetic.

      • monkeyknickers

        WOW . .. oh my god seriously? ? You got spied on??

        My eyebrows are up around my hairline right now. . . . . . I’m SO sorry honey. That is awful. AWFUL that someone would dupe you like that.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          it happens all the time, even years later. someone gets in trouble or is sec checked, old names come up. Paranoia strikes deep in scientology. it has become Much worse in last few years as DM sanity declines…no one can be connected to anyone not “on board”!? those who have been out for decades but have ex spouses or children in, or even business associates no matter how remote, are required to sever All, and then ar sec checked for dirt or what the “Others” might Know.

          The patients in the scientology asylum have taken over the guards and management is terrified they will “cog” and turn on Them.

          • monkeyknickers

            what a bunch of shitheads. jesus.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yes?

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Dork.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yep, but Holey shitheads. Miscavige has been sending out his flying monkeys on a regular rotating basis to hunt down former Sea Org staff as well as public customers who are considered veterans, many who have been long gone for 30 years! Few still have all their old materials and books (to show how he has lied and perverted the “tech”) and it seems he also is afraid someone will tell their story, have some kind of knowledge that will hurt or embarrass him. He has stirred up some mighty annoyed people doing this and hence, more and more stories Have come out, more information, details, books and media exposure. Crazy, ain’t it?

            • Vistaril

              Ahhh . . . interesting. I’ve been lovin’ confirmation of the anti-Christ teachings in the original OTVIII materials which recently popped up on some of the blogs. Its always fun to learn about the crazy in the tech, but some more personal stories from back in the day would be great too. But, yeah, the more the PR and damage control tech is applied, the worse it gets. Just as well they can’t change it, I guess.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Only Captain Bligh and the Indies are tearing their hair out over dribbles of prior issues. It’s like taking a tour through a Museum of Crazy Crap and debating Which turd was Purer, Undiluted and Original and which was not. The 2nd and 3rd gen scientologists of today have No idea what Hubbard’s ‘tech was, None and I don’t see or hear the Slightest give-a-damn. They are taught today how to Parrot and that is all they are. Their parents and grandparents are Not passing down a clue. Talk about Major Withholds of Long Duration….hah. No wonder the kids are bailing. They have No Cravings for Hubbard’s Crackers.
              (as far as I have seen, DM has rotated his Hunts every 2 years for at least the last 6 years, and it appears he may have started a new one, a year early. I’ve noticed quite a few comments about some suddenly getting calls and mail again. I have too. I’m starting to feel the earth move, and not in a good way)

        • Sam Domingo

          Standard business for the cult. Same as disconnection.

          • monkeyknickers

            I’m living the disconnection . . . well, I’m feeding it a baloney sandwich and carrots, but still . . . . it’s that your FRIENDS would SPY on you and report back to those JACKasses.?!

            That must have been so awful for you. :(

        • MissCandle

          That’s why Lisa Marie had to change all her security team members and assistants (and she has apparently advised Leah R. to do the same). The Vanity Fair Article explained it and Tony O has written about it before. TC and Nicole’s and Katie’s assistants were all reporting back to COB about the private goings on their homes.

  • shasha40

    Is Tiny d aware of any media other than their propaganda machine ? Doesn’t Kirstie understand how she’s verifying Everything past Apostates, P’s and authors have said in more ways than one ? Sorry guys, still can’t wrap my wog brain around the fact these people never know when to leave shit alone. So happy Leah’s family is sticking together. Not letting someone else tell the what to do. Bridge to total freedom of having to think ! Think Grandpa’s getting auditing from Marty ???

    • sugarplumfairy

      “Doesn’t kirstie understand…?” Most of the insight any of them might have had has been audited and training-routined right out of them..

      • shasha40

        True, making them more able, hmm…

      • FLUNK_101

        Bullshit. You can’t always connect being audited or doing TR’s with a loss of insight.

        P.S. SPF, you would make a great Scientologist … I feel like I just got sec-checked!

        • sugarplumfairy

          Thanks, that’ll be $300.. I take cash, card or PayPal..

          • FLUNK_101

            Go fuck yourself.

            • EnthralledObserver

              What set you off this time, FLUNK? I’m failing to see it.

            • FistOfXenu

              Do you have a button on auditing, FLUNK?

            • BuryTheNuts2

            • FLUNK_101

              Not today, BTN? So why are you are you spewing your pathetic hypomania on me when it just so happens I’m not bi-polar?

              OMG, BTN, why are you taking SPF’s side against me? Afraid to go against the flow? Afraid you might lose some friends?

              I have enough love in my life that I don’t worry about a few jerks who hate me.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Oh get real for fucks sake! I never said you were bi-polar!
              Get your memes correct at least!

              It is for Borderline Personality Disorder and I was trying to distract you because I thought it was funny. And quit with this taking sides persecution bullshit Flunk! Sometimes you get too sensitive and lash out too hard at people. And not just SPF….although she has been at the top of your list lately.

              And posting a funny meme when “you” are acting bat shit irrational is hardly “spewing my pathetic hypomania”

              RIGHT NOW IS ME SPEWING MY “PATHETIC HYPOMANIA” AT YOU
              – SO GET IT STRAIGHT AND DON’T MAKE SHIT UP!

              And no, I am not afraid of losing friends here as there are only a handful of these folks that I consider my actual friends and if you are too dense to notice I just went counter tide last night big time…you know… (that means against the flow).

              You do have enough love in your life to not care about a few jerks that hate you…so stop being a dork and quit looking for constant conflict here.

              I am your friend, even when you are acting out and calling me pathetic. But that sure doesn’t mean I have to find your ridiculous behavior acceptable, because I don’t!!! Not one bit. Being someones friend is having the guts to tell them when they are being an asshole: Flunk, You are being an asshole

              So, we can throw copies of the DSM-IV at each other all day long (with a couple of fuck yous for good measure), or we can all communicate like rational adults and get over this shit.

              And what is the crying remark supposed to mean????

            • BuryTheNuts2

              No dude, YOU become a different person. Totally different person!
              And yes, it is SAD.

            • DeElizabethan

              <3

            • sugarplumfairy

              Grow up or get help.. Your choice.. I’m not enabling you anymore.. You’re cut off from the fairy, dude..

            • monkeyknickers

              I’m scared this is real fairy/flunk conflict.

              Seriously.

              We’re just funnin’ right?
              Am I missing something as a newbie??
              Shit! I hate it when I don’t understand stuff.

            • sugarplumfairy

              Don’t be scared.. My texting finger is never loaded..

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Flunk does this from time to time. It too shall pass.

            • monkeyknickers

              CONFLICT I DON’T GET MAKES ME SAD.

              Welcome to my childhood. :))

            • FLUNK_101

              You’re the one who needs to “get help” … if that’s even possible at this point in your life.
              I have told you many times, as politely as I could, what my beef is with you.
              You’ve had every opportunity to apologize, but you never do. You prefer to pretend you’ve done nothing wrong. Is it because you have friends who take your side? Well, then they are your enablers! They enable you in your selfish and immature behavior, putting down those you do not understand, just so you can feel like you’re worth something.
              Get help, SPF.

            • Robert Eckert

              She HAS done nothing. When in the entire world there is not a single person who sees what you see, the one having misperceptions is you.

            • FLUNK_101

              I don’t need you or anyone else to agree with me to be right!
              Your are entitled to your own opinion. You don’t have to agree with what I say.
              But could you please stop with the false accusations of mental illness?

            • Robert Eckert

              I am, of course, not a professional, and would advise that you go find one. But insisting on your private version of reality in which attacks are being made against you that no-one else can see is practically the definition of paranoid schizophrenia.

            • FLUNK_101

              Thanks for the advice. Now could you do us all a favor and shut the fuck up?

            • sugarplumfairy
            • Zlogonje

              was oops yes? I watch. what is proper next move?

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Starting your own religion?

            • FistOfXenu

              And telling your followers how ridiculous algebra is.

            • Robert Eckert

              One of those days again? Why don’t you just lie down until it passes?

          • George Layton

            Oooooo I’m tellin, you dissed auditing.

      • richelieu jr

        Far be it from me to put words in his mouth, but I took it that he was playing along as if he were talking to the SecCheck person, and the joke just kind of went sideways..

        • FLUNK_101

          That’s a bingo.

          I’ve been out for thirty years, and I’ve been on this blog for over a year now.
          sugarplumfairy has a bad habit of ridiculing what I have to say, even when I’m try to contribute something meaningful.

          I’ve thought long and hard about how I was bamboozled by Scientology. When I try to understand that, my mind goes back to some personal “wins” I had early on.
          But when I’ve tried to talk about that, spf would reply “AAAAGGGHHHH!” … Over and over again, day after day, month after month. It’s disrespectful.

          I don’t hate spf. Initially, I even liked her. I got a kick out of her personality and sassy attitude.
          But I could never reason with her.
          She continues to infer that I’m still “in” … today she did it by saying “tell your friends.”

          She goes too far. Last night, she was talking to an ex named Christine, a former Scientologist, Sea Org member and OT VIII.
          spf told her, “you’d make a great scientologist … I feel like I just got sec-checked.”
          It didn’t go over too well.

          Are we intelligent exes supposed to leave the blog because of spf? She’s been around Scientology long enough to know better. But she continues to say incredibly stupid things. It’s obviously a question of character and intelligence.
          In NYC, there’s a colloquial expression for people who act like spf: “ass-hole.”

          • Robert Eckert

            She said nothing to you whatsoever. Someone here is being an asshole, and it’s not her.

            • FLUNK_101

              You’re calling me an asshole? For telling the truth? What does that make you?

            • Robert Eckert

              You are not speaking any truth. She said nothing to you whatsoever to provoke this latest outburst. Imagining that things are directed at you that have nothing to do with you is a dangerous mental illness, which you are demanding validation for. No. No-one here is going to tell you that there is anything correct in the nonsense you just posted.

            • FLUNK_101

              It’s people like you, Robert, who convict the innocent.
              It was people like you, back in Salem, who were all in favor of burning those witches at the stake!
              It’s people like you who RUIN THE WORLD.
              Just thought you’d like to know.

            • Robert Eckert

              No-one is wishing you any harm. You are the only one making accusations against the innocent.

            • FLUNK_101

              Are you saying SPF never went “AAAAGGGHHHH!”, over and over again, ridiculing my own personal life experiences?
              Are you saying SPF never said I was “basically a good guy,” but I was “ruined by the tech?”
              Are you saying SPF never said “Flunk still longs for the tech,” even though I’m into brain science?
              Are you saying SPF never took a dismissive attitude with me, even when she had no clue what I was talking about?
              Sheesh!

            • sugarplumfairy
            • Zlogonje

              you talk like nine years old boy now. is going to work? I start to think you have screws loose. I’m disappointment.

            • sugarplumfairy

              I love that chivalry lives.. Thank you, sir.. But you can’t reason with “always attack, never defend..” you just cut your losses, smile and smother ‘em with lovvvvvvvvve..

            • Zlogonje

              goal is to derail no? I must watch closer. I not get this one. why insult?

            • sugarplumfairy

              Spot on, Zio..

          • richelieu jr

            Well, I certainly see your POV with the misunderstanding tonight,and I can honestly say I have always believed you about you wins (how could I know, anyway?), but you may recall I am one of the very unfriendly ones to mIss OTVII coming over here and giving us lessons about things even he admitted she didn’t really understand or know anything about. Just on principle, I suppose. That said, I don’t think anyone should ever be excluded from the blog, it rubs me the wrong way, and I feel pretty sure it rubs SPF the wrong way too…

            • FLUNK_101

              Fair enough, my man. Thank you.

    • RMycroft

      Too bad Hubbard never said “It won’t get better if you keep poking at it.”

      • FistOfXenu

        He didn’t dare. He was always playing with things that bothered him. At least if you believe his Affirmations.

        • Observer

          “Can’t sleep, snakes’ll get me!”

        • richelieu jr

          Well, his penis bothered him, and vowed to stop touching it!

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Penis TECH:

            Stand up!
            Thank you.
            Sit down!
            Thank you.

    • richelieu jr

      I wouldn’t be surprised if someone at the ‘Church’ asked her to stop tweeting (though they probably aren’t ‘net aware enough, they do read Tony’s BLog, as we know!) That would be my first instruction to her were I on their side…

      • shasha40

        Damn Scientology speak, I thought they were Kings of tech. Excuse me while I word clear that !

      • ParticleMom

        Kirstie watching on Twitter is pretty fascinating. She really can’t help herself.

  • aquaclara

    For Leah, the pain of seeing dear friends disconnect from her may overshadow anything else at the moment. This is a horrible reality of Scientology. Even being famous doesn’t protect someone from this.
    So sad.

    • shasha40

      That’s the problem with Scientology,everyone’s entitled believe watch you will. But when an Organization causes so much emotional turmoil , with things like ,KR’s and disconnection it’s poisonous.

    • AnyOldName1

      It’s got to be heart breaking when it happens. Even if you know it goes on, when it happens to you the pain isn’t any less.

      Leah may have been strong enough to resist the pressure (to not disconnect from Haggis), but others are weak, fearful beings who “need instructions”. Just shows who has the self-esteem and confidence to stand on their own two feet.

  • Sunny Sands

    I think the end result of all this publicity is going to result in more work for Leah. She hasn’t been very successful since King of Queens ended, being fired from “The Talk” in 2011 and recently she had a TV series “Family Tools” cancelled. I think the public is now more aware of her professionally, and sympathetic to her break with scientology.

    • stateofcircle

      In this vein, and I don’t in any way mean to be rude when I say this, but this whole thing is probably good for her career. It seems the most powerful Scilon is Hollywood is Tom Cruise, and it doesn’t seem like he could really wield much power over Leah’s career for many reasons. I am not very familiar with the inner workings of Scientology’s power in Hollywood, but it certainly doesn’t seem as though they have much of it these days.

      • Sherbet

        She’ll show up on The View one of these days, and her visibility and career will get a boost. She’s probably not ready to tell her story, though, with Alley Tweeting and the disconnection machine cranking into action. Remini will need some time to catch her breath.

      • AnyOldName1

        Nicole’s career seemed to take off once she got out from under the Cult and the 3rd biggest {big being}. Imagine there is a faction in Hollywood fed up with the control-freak scions who may give her some breaks.

        • Missionary Kid

          Nicole has always been beautiful, but the thing that has made her an outstanding actress is that she appears to be fearless in choosing roles that stretch her abilities. She also appears in very commercial projects.

          Reading her bio in IMDB, it’s said that since she left Cruise, she’s been wearing heels quite often. At 5’11” she must have towered over TC, even without heels. He probably had to have lifts on his lifts.

          • FistOfXenu

            He used his Big Bean Sooper Powerz to levitate off the ground just enough so he didn’t look like a toy. Honest!

            • Missionary Kid

              That’s a lot of farts to light to levitate that tall. He must have had a special fart igniter to keep him up.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              According to ScientologyCelebrity he “literally” hit the roof when he found out his kids were hanging with the wrong crowd. Now we know how he did it!

            • FistOfXenu

              I know how he did it! It’s Para$citology’s patented Sea Org Slave Dreck(TM). TC sits on the shoulders of a S.O. member. Of course the S.O. member is on a diet of rice and beans – extra beans to equip him for the job. When TC needs to levitate the S.O. slave is the 1 that farts and ignites the farts. Presto! TC looks taller and every body thinks he can levitate.

  • John P.

    I don’t know Leah Remini at all other than her work on King of Queens and her reputation for being a tough Brooklyn kid who speaks her mind. If she and her husband are indeed “stunned that their friends in Scientology are marching in lockstep with the church’s orders to cut ties with them,” I would suspect that they will speak their minds quite broadly and this will be yet another disaster for the cult — the practice of disconnection has not been that much of a focus in mass-media stories about Scientology, though it has been mentioned. Tony’s capture of the web sites of various Scientology businesses is great ground work here because it provides hard evidence of disconnection in action, which other press will be able to use if they write stories when Leah and Angelo go to war.

    The other potential “footbullet” here is the issue of Angelo exiting business interests owned in conjunction with other Scientologists. If they attempt to screw him by undervaluing his shares or otherwise attempting to harm him economically, he certainly appears to have the economic firepower to bring very expensive lawsuits to recover economic damages, which would clearly rain down further PR disaster on the cult.

    This news causes me to suspect that the Leah Remini story is just getting started, not winding down. Good thing we in Global Capitalism HQ owns ConAgra, the parent company of Orville Redenbacher and Frito-Lay, the parent company for Cracker Jack. Sales of popcorn are gonna spike!

    • 1subgenius

      All of the Scilon machinations even though Leah has not spoken a word against Scientology yet.
      Well played Leah.

      • FistOfXenu

        Pre emptive hatred. It’s DM’s SOP.

        • Observer

          Always attack, never defend. COB is just following the “tech.”

          • FistOfXenu

            Yup. DM doesn’t have to worry about being able to defend Para$citology…

            • Observer

              Which is just as well, because it’s utterly indefensible.

            • FistOfXenu

              Exactly. ;)

          • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

            I wonder if a “Leah Remini” issue of Freedom magazine is in the works? That would be a full magazine (pun intended) of footbullets. That one they did of Lawrence Wright and Paul Haggis just seethed with venom and hatred.

            • Sherbet

              Right now, cos members are poring over Remini’s photos, trying to find the least flattering one they can, just to be ready to post it somewhere. Anybody have the before-and-after photos of Lawrence Wright?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I have extensively reviewed Leah’s photos on the ‘net and find it hard to believe they will find anything to use. I could be wrong though. Really must go look… for… more…

            • Sherbet

              Yes, you do that, Dougie D.

            • RMycroft

              And when they’ve got the photo, they’ll photoshop it to death.

              CoS site: http://www.lawrencewrightgoingclear.com/

            • Peter

              And when they do, someone on this list will find the original, post the two and further expose the duplicity of the tcherch.

      • pronoia

        Though she does have good manners. She is personally replying to supportive tweets sent her way.

      • Lady Squash

        Oh contraire, 1subgenius. Leah dared to criticize Church Management. Oh my, that is the same as criticizing Scientology.

        • 1subgenius

          I meant to the media, or publicly.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Scientologists with their actions of quiting their jobs, not paying their debts to him and otherwise ruining Lawrence’s business was a major portion of the Wollersheim case.

    • monkeyknickers

      Um . . . . off topic, love of my life my JP :

      ConAgra is the first one with theys back against the wall when my revolution comes.

      Just saying. Ditch those fuckers. And watch out for a white skinned black haired girl with 4 year old and two babies strapped to her torso.

      Again. JUST SAYING.

      Edit:

      :))))

      I’m not crazy I swear!

      • John P.

        ConAgra is not in my area of responsibility. Because I’m not familiar with the company, I certainly would not attempt to defend them or to disagree with you. I am glad I deal with computer tech, big pharma, scientific companies and that sort of thing — there is sleaze but nothing like the level of evil exists in many low-growth, low-profit industries (don’t get me started on steel and coal companies).

        One of the many things we must learn in Global Capitalism HQ as we rise through the ranks is the danger of liking a company, its business, or its management team. We all have stories of being led off the cliff by lying-sack-of-shit CEOs who keep telling us that everything is going great at the company and then suddenly popping up with bad news that slashes their stock price, bad news that they knew was coming for months. When you trust and like company managements, you’re opening yourself to potentially billions of dollars in losses, which is usually a “career-limiting situation,” as we rather archly refer to it.

        We love punishing CEOs that lie to us, and we can often cause them some hurt. Unfortunately, the most crooked ones don’t quite connect up being lying douchebags with the heat that we bring, although our displeasure can create significant “career limiting situations” for them. Long ago, I published a negative note on management credibility at a certain Internet company that had a value of $12 billion when the market opened that day. When the word got out that I had caught management in a significant lie because our extensive research had given us solid evidence of duplicity, the stock closed that day with a value of $7 billion. No bonus for him that year; he was gone within six months as other people verified his perfidy and was never heard from again.

        All of the above is a general observation about how the markets and the capitalism business works. As I said before, I don’t have an opinion either positive or negative about ConAgra, so I certainly won’t take issue with your dislike of the company. If they are douchebags, I hope some smart Wall Street guy with a job like mine is putting together a case that shreds their stock price and gets them all fired.

        • monkeyknickers

          I hear you being reasonable and displaying temperance and smartitude, baby.

          I don’t have either.

          I just want those fuckers to pay.

          Quick aside:

          My mom:

          What are you doing help me with supper . . .

          Me:

          Writing about fucking ConAgra . .

          Mom:

          Knock it off!! And stop cursing in the house! And get your business together!!
          Ashleen and the littles are watching tv!!

          ******

          :)
          Seriously JP – you come on over now. But be forewarned – My tiny perfect gorgeous little white mama takes no prisoners.

          :))

          • MissCandle

            Dear Monkey friend, I don’t know much about ConAgra either. But my daughter, the geneticist, says that food has been genetically modified for years and years already.

  • Sunny Sands

    Great investigative work in this piece, Pagan’s business ties, Leah’s stepfather connections, Leah’s support of fellow comics and her seed money to sci businesses. Thanks!

  • BuryTheNuts2

    Leah’s saga looks to be the gift that will keep on giving!

    • Otto T Mariedahl

      I suspect that shit will get extra real if she does an interview about leaving Scientology.

      Miss Crab will sick all his OSA bots on Leah if she talks and I don’t think she will have any of that.

  • BosonStark

    Scilebrity double standard — they can treat her like an SP but they can’t write an SP Declare on her because of the bad PR.

    • shasha40

      True, but they’re still reaping the entheta ! Go ahead Tiny d, publish her Goldenrod in Freedumb Ragazine. Tony’s tipsters are waiting…

      • Tony Williams

        I have to wonder how long before Admiral Sciuridae realizes that _everyone_ around him is reporting directly to Tony Ortega, except for the ones reporting to The Tipping Point, and the ones who report to Operation Clambake!

        • Minion Gayle

          Who says they can’t report to all three?

        • shasha40

          In Neveruary ! Sshhhh , nobody tell him .

    • 1subgenius

      A lot of declares these days never see the light of day, so we’ll never know.

  • Truthiwant

    This silly poem is for all those people ‘Out’ and ‘Getting Out’ and of course Leah Remini.

    How does Scientology work?

    It’s really quite berserk

    Sometimes all day

    You shout at an ash tray

    You spend all you earn

    Until you learn

    That it is ill

    And a road downhill

    You do a course

    From Hubbard’s source

    It’s all quite mad

    And very, very sad

    To waste all that time

    And spend your last dime

    To suffer away

    In total dismay

    To get nowhere

    With all that despair

    And spend so much

    To be out of touch

    The promises are many

    For a pretty penny

    But it’s the control

    That ruins your soul

    For Hubbard was nuts

    Without any buts

    His crazy theory

    Is dangerously eerie

    You pay lots of cash

    For nothing but trash

    It’s one big con

    Where happiness is gone

    It’s really awful

    And often unlawful

    To end up a debtor

    But never get better

    Your reduced vitality

    And sense of reality

    Go up in smoke

    Once you are broke

    The end result

    Of this strange cult

    Is like theft

    With no money left

    And when there’s no more

    They just shut the door

    For they don’t care

    So please be aware

    This is no joke

    I warn you, good folk

    How can you agree

    When they call you SP?

    It’s always a quest

    To try and protest

    Thus best to learn

    And never return

    To get back a buck

    You can say ‘fuck’

    So better to blow

    Or just stand up and go

    The cult is so vile

    You see no-one smile

    In that, there’s no doubt

    So please all, get out

    Life should be enjoyed

    And never destroyed

    So without apology

    Say NO to Scientology

    • shasha40

      That Rocks ! * standing ovation *

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      Rivals Fear or the Ultimate Adventure.

  • Dean Blair

    These actions taken by the Church of Scientology against Leah will be seen by the Hollywood crowd for what they are and will no doubt have a more harmful effect on the careers of those celebrities who remain in the church of Scientology than they have on those who have left or are leaving.

    Scientology has been causing grief and heartache to hundreds of lesser known individuals for decades. Most of these disconnections were ignored and unnoticed by the general public.

    Scientology’s attack on Leah and her family will get noticed. It will not be ignored. The public will be able to see for themselves what those of us who have left have been saying for years. Scientology is an evil and manipulative cult.

    • 1subgenius

      When I posted a comment elsewhere that this will make Hollywood folk to pick sides, someone replied “Hollywood doesn’t pick sides.”
      This was in an article about Kirstie picking sides. Go figure.
      They may not do it publicly (yet), but even they (most) do have some sense of right and wrong.
      Let’s watch.

      • richelieu jr

        I can only think of twice when Hollywood has picked sides (and only once in my life):

        WWII
        the Begelman incident.

        • 1subgenius

          But individuals do.

          • richelieu jr

            They most certainly do yes.

        • FistOfXenu

          So you’re not counting the black listing and “red hunting” under the influence of Senator McCarthy?

          • richelieu jr

            Touché. You are absolutely right of course.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          There were those who let the mob have its way, and those who opposed.

          HUAC. Major rift in Hollywood.

          And several times in the past (recent past as well) there have been pretty sharp divisions over unions.

  • FLUNK_101

    Kirstie Alley is beyond the pale.
    As for the others celebs calling in to Celebrity Center for instructions, they are just trying to avoid being “declared.” They don’t want their busines contacts, friends and family “disconnecting” from them. They don ‘t want to lose their connections. Even if they’re thinking about leaving, they probably want to do it at a time of their own choosing, when they’re ready.
    On the other hand, Kirstie Alley “demanded ” a meeting to rally the troups against Leah! Kirstie’s lack of empathy is appalling.
    But, can you imagine being a devout clam AND a famous actress? My understanding that Kirstie thinks she’s so successful because of Scientology.
    Kirstie’s success is like winning the lottery 2 days in a row! The odds are against it.
    For Kirstie Alley to be so successful, wealthy, and still a Scientologist tells me one thing – she’s living in her own little world which cannot be fathomed.

    • 1subgenius

      A fallacy of logic is when one believes that B happened because of A, when in fact B happened despite A.
      My favorite example is the guy in Canada who jumped in the lake every New Year’s Day because he thought it kept him alive.
      One year…..well you can guess that he learned his lesson a little too late.

    • Vistaril

      I think they’re in fear of being “declared.

      And don’t forget there’s all those juicy details carefully written down as per L Ron Hubbard’s instructions to auditors for exactly this sort of situtation. A sexual peccadillo here, a dodgy tax return there, and, hey presto, Scientology begins to amass its black PR material. Not that it need relatre specifically to facts, of course. As Scientology {scripture} ‘Public Relations Series 18′, 21 November 1972 teaches :

      “. . . Statements [to the press] one makes can be curved. ‘She had a birthday party’ becomes ‘The delinquent’s inner circle gathered yesterday for a sex orgy and pretended to the police it was a birthday party. No one was jailed’ . . . “

      . . . but wait, there’s more. Much more. Gives you an idea of what people are up against when it comes to leaving Scientology.

    • cicely neville

      I have trouble understanding the ‘success’part. Of course she is fairly wealthy, but hasn’t actually acted in years, is aging badly and always fighting her weight. To me, success would be having the caliber of Meryl Streep. This poor woman is only famous for a TV show that’s what, 30 years old? (I never watched it.)
      If it weren’t for the tabloid pictures at the Safeway check stand, I would have forgotten all about her. As it is, I’m not really sure what she’s famous for.

      • Minion Gayle

        Awesome Vulcan eyebrows.

      • Robert Eckert

        What do you mind? She’s been on Dancing With The Stars multiple times!

        • cicely neville

          Forgot about the dancing (no TV.) and I wouldn’t mind forgetting about her, to put it mildly. In fact i think forgetting would be an act of kindness.

        • MissCandle

          She also has new TV show on the Lifetime channel coming this fall.

        • MissCandle

          She also has new TV show on the Lifetime channel coming this fall.

  • monkeyknickers

    WOW. Wow. I had to get a pencil and a protractor and diagram this damn post. Then I had to make myself flash cards.

    I feel like I need to put a big sign on my forehead that says:

    Wait . . .. . . what now?

    • Minion Gayle

      Can I get a copy of those?

  • chris

    I think what is missing in these discussions is why Leah made the very human, logical choice to leave the cult once she discovered the abuse and absolute corruption of Miscavige. My question is why other $cientologists don’t do the same. Is it because she has money and a home that she could easily leave the cult without disrupting her life? I don’t understand why others simply don’t just get up and go, especially those sequestered in the hole or forced to work on Freewinds for $50 a week. Are these people just stupid sadists or simply brainwashed? Leah had been in the cult for a long time yet reacted as a normal person would at the disappearance of Shelly Miscavige and shock that she wasn’t allowed to question it. Why don’t others respond in a similar fashion??

    • 1subgenius

      “Are these people just stupid sadists or simply brainwashed?”

      The whole scheme is automated brainwashing, so I’ll guess the latter.

    • Lark Smith

      The mindfuck works. I believe they also get many perks and services from Lyingtology, cheap help and services, a lot of ego boosting to feed their frail self image, and validation of a greater mission (clearing the planet). It allows them to stay sheltered and blissfully unaware. They benefit greatly from the secrecy and perceived loyalty of the cult. Bottom line they are willing to pay the emotional and spiritual price to keep these gains. They blow off claims of abuse and corruption because it serves their purpose. Many will claim ignorance or state they were victimized- but ultimately they made their choices and will reap the benefits or consequences of their actions. They stayed silent as friends disappeared, used the labor pool made available to them, and participated in taunting, degrading, and shunning people that were once friends. That is not an easy pill to swallow, it is much easier to go with the flow. Honestly their behavior is shallow and self serving. Rant over

    • Imelda Marcos

      Brainwashing. Some have no other friends. Years ago, I stayed in a strange west coast political group for about two years longer than I should have b/c I didn’t want to lose friends and predictably, I did so when I left. Just like $cientology. It’s actually the main reason I am so fascinated/horrified by this soap opera.

      • Still_On_Your_Side

        There have been discussions here about strange political groups, like LaRouche’s. A cult is a cult is a cult, whether religious or political, and LaRouche is just as vile as Miscavige, only on a smaller scale. LaRouche is a bigger hypocrite, however. He claims to be the heir of Plato, Leibniz, the Judeo-Christian heritage, and the American founding fathers, but worships money and power and strips his followers of every freedom. Miscavige doesn’t care about philosophy or history, he doesn’t even get audited or follow the stated principles of his own religion. He makes no bones about it, money and his power are everything.

        • Robert Eckert

          LaRouche is more the LRH. He is getting very old, and when he passes it will be interesting to see if any Miscavige figure emerges capable of holding that sect together.

          • Still_On_Your_Side

            Interesting. LaRouche is 90. You may be right, a Miscavige-style coup by a young turk may be a likely scenario when he goes.

        • Imelda Marcos

          This was a women’s lib group – lots of arguing about class issues. Lots of screaming, which I couldn’t stand. That would probably drive me from Scientology if I had ever joined.

    • Vistaril

      It has very little to do with David Miscavige, the person. Abuse and corruption is endemic in Scientology, and has been since the 1950s. Once hooked on the post-hypnotic euphoria Kool Aid, Scientologists are implanted with the utter certainty that they are working to save the planet and must, at all costs, save their own eternity. They really do believe that and the entire cult infrastructure serves only to protect and reinforce it. For an idea of how deep the Kool Aid runs, take a look at a thread entitled “I have a Thetan who does things to my mirror and it’s annoying. What Should I Do?” which is running on both ESMB and WWP. These people are beyond reason and it is not until they experience their own, deeply personal “final straw” which directly impacts on them that the first real cracks start to open up.

      IMHO, very few of the people attracted to the Scientology mindfuck are stupid and even fewer are natural sadists. There are, however, lots of con artists attracted to Scientology because they realise the money involved and that the cult provides a marketplace filled with bewildered punters ready to be fleeced. But I don’t think there is just one reason or one motivation for why people remain in the cult. Rather, it seems there are as many reasons as there are people, and each of them have been initially lured via their specific “ruin”. After that, its just a matter of applying standard Scientology hypnotic-like processing and, hey presto, reality becomes “agreement”. This was known as early as 1967 when it was detailed in the Anderson Reports and explains the entirely subjective experience of the mindfuck but largely universal experience of its impact on their lives.

      What’s missing from the discussion, I suggest, is a knowledge of Scientology’s history and secret tech which drives its real function as a money-making operation. I am sure the old hands here will tell you that, as each year rolls by, the personalities change but the stories do not.

      • justpassingby

        Thank you! This is one of the best, most succinct explanations I’ve seen yet for the BIG QUESTION: Why do seemingly intelligent people stay in this cult? No kidding, I’ve read so many books on Scientology and by ex-Scientologists, I’ve been reading these blogs and websites for years, and you have in 3 paragraphs given me one of the most understandable answers to that question yet. From someone who was never in but is fascinated: Big bravos!

      • Peter

        Well, I will say that in the many years I was in, I cannot ever recall anyone talking about “my eternity.” That appears to be something which really got going in the 80s and onwards. I have my own thoughts about eternity, many of which were there long before I jumped into the cherch.

    • Couch_Incident

      I recently got around to watching the Wise Beard Man’s interview with Jason Beghe. Beghe described staying in as “chasing the high”, a phrase usually referring to how addicts will start with a great drug experience and then keep doing it trying to get that initial feeling back. Beghe got some sort of emotional “win” early on that he valued, and he stuck around for too long trying to get that feeling back.

      [Just to be clear, I don't think that his "win" was necessarily had to come from Scn or the "magic" of its "Tech." For example, there are studies showing that talk therapy of any kind benefits people - Diuretics is a crude talk therapy.]

    • richelieu jr

      She is n the rather amazing position of not only having all her family outof the SeaOrg, and relatively near her, but also on-board with her decision. DIfficult to do if your mom and brother are in SeaOrg, your dad’s in Australia, etc…

      The ‘Church will divide and conquer, from the word go, lying to everyone individually, cutting comunication lines, and twisting arms and blackmailing, even kidnapping and imprisoning oto keep you in line..

      So yeah, that, plus a boatload of benjamins and you’ve got a bit more elbow room for you ‘free will’..

    • Minion Gayle

      But even with her money and the freedom her celebrity allowed her, it still took Leah six or seven YEARS to finally wash her hands of the cult. As much as I want to stomp my foot and shout “Why haven’t you gone to the police?” I don’t think we can discount how deeply the members have been affected on a psychological level by years of indoctrination. It probably never occurs to most of them that they can leave.

  • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

    It would appear Scientology’s talons of disconnection do not discriminate, celebrity, non-celebrity, they are going to attempt to cut you off from those closest to you. Like an assassin with a hit list, they usually start with the people who mean the most to you.

    Though my heart feels for Leah during what I know to be a difficult transition, I’m thrilled that this is playing out in the media, as it is the EXACT same thing that has happened to many of us. From the Facebook unfriending to having our friends and families hauled in for thought modification and intimidation, should they fail to cut ties with us.

    I’ve been out of the cult for 3.5 years. I will say this, though at first many will cut ties, some with a heavy heart, after awhile many of them come to their senses. Within about 48 hours of publicly leaving Scientology, you will find out who your real friends are. I call it the Scientology enema, as all the shit will be flushed out, you will detox and emerge a cleaner, more free individual.

    • 1subgenius

      “the Scientology enema”

      Me likey.

      • FistOfXenu

        Yup. Flushes the Para$cis right out. Like getting rid of tape worms.

        • 1subgenius

          “:Para$cis”

          This is getting good.

          • Mark

            Nice to see the COB pinned down for once…

            • Sherbet

              Not to quibble, Mark, but DM is “COB,” just plain “COB.” Not “the COB.” The idea is that he’s the one and only model for all Chairmen of all Boards. When a scientologist refers to COB, there’s no question that it’s DM, the embodiment of COBness, the #1 big honcho, the grand poobah, a COB beyond any other COBs, an all-encompassing term, like “dean” or “cardinal.” No “the” is necessary, because there’s just One.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              In fact, “the” is not even allowed.
              It distracts from the devastation wrought by “COB”.

            • Mark

              I stand corrected. I was under a misapprehension that ‘COB’ stood for “Cretinous Overbearing Braggart”.

            • ze moo

              Sir, you besmirch the good name of ‘Cretinous Overbearing Braggart’.

            • Mark

              Alright: how about “Creepy Oleaginous Bastard”? (Subtle reference to the ‘oiliness table’).

            • FistOfXenu

              Well it’s true that DM’s also known as “his oiliness”.

            • Sherbet

              No, I think that was lrh!

            • Sam Domingo

              Some of us call him ‘the cob’ in the UK because ‘cob’ is a word for a bread roll here :)

            • Mark

              Or it’s short for “cobblers!” (I’m from the UK).

              If he is a baked cob, it’s the sort you’d get from a garage forecourt-shop – small, crusty, VERY expensive – and stale…

            • RMycroft
            • Sam Domingo

              That’s about the sum of things

            • Casabeca

              Rhyming slang at the Bunker! I love!

            • monkeyknickers

              Well . . . . Chairman of the Bread then . . :)

            • Peter

              Or an ear of corn. LOL

            • Rod Keller

              Because one day everybody on this planet will be on an org board. Allegedly.

            • Simple Thetan

              I just use dm. No capitals, there is nothing capital about him.

            • Sherbet

              For some reason, I type DM but lrh. I also don’t capitalize scientology, cos, or narconon. DM should be flattered I give him capital letters. I’m inconsistent, I know.

            • Imelda Marcos

              OMG WHAT IS THAT.

            • Mark

              A Para$citologist. Note the uncanny resemblances between DM and a tapeworm:

            • Nevermore

              They could be twins, separated at birth!

            • Sherbet

              God, Mark! Some of us are eating! (Were eating…)

            • Mark

              Sorry, Sherbet. You should have seen some of the piccies I found. No, don’t even think about that!

            • Sherbet

              In that case, Mark, thanks for finding the prettiest photo to post…

            • monkeyknickers

              I’m embarrassed to even divulge what I thought that was.

              Mostly.

            • Imelda Marcos

              *clicks ‘newest first’ * I am never coming down to this part of the page again.

            • Mark

              The early bird catches the (tape)worm?

            • cicely neville

              Notice the sebaceous cysts. Or whatever. Hideous protuberances of some kind. looks just like him.

            • FistOfXenu

              Thanks for the graphic. But to me that 1 there looks more like Liar Ron Humbug. The fancy hat and long hair wig to help him blend in with the locals and the bulbous nose and even the suggestion of that head cyst. LRH.

              If it wasn’t a tapeworm I’d say it looked like it belongs on Sesame Street.

            • MissCandle

              You are sick. In a very good way. Does that make me sick too?

    • Observer

      Tom Cruise seems to be the anomaly, or, to use one of LRH’s favorite words, the aberration. He doesn’t seem to have been forced to disconnect even though Katie caused a far bigger PR flap than this when she escaped. I’m pretty sure she’s not in good standing.

      • Nevermore

        But TC is a {Big Being} – does that not get him special privileges? (The answer would appear to be yes…)

        • ThetaBara

          They’re not exactly building airplane hangars and handing out custom burlwood pens to just anyone.

      • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

        Like Nicole Kidman, Katie will not be labeled an SP. Labeling her as such would mean that the “Most dedicated Scientologist” that David Miscavige has ever known, not only failed to spot a Suppressive Person, but slept with her. The flock knows Tom Cruise and his penis would never do such a thing, therefore Katie must not be a Suppressive.

        • Observer

          And he married SPs not just once, but twice! Pretty pathetic for a Big Being.

          • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

            Exactly!

        • stateofcircle

          The thing that always got me was the fact that Nicole’s dad is an [evil] Psych. She didn’t disconnect with her father, and I’m pretty confident in assuming that he didn’t convert, and even if he wanted to, of course they wouldn’t allow a member of the most horrendous and diabolical group on Teegeeack (hell, in the gahluhxy) which, incidentally, is responsible for every single bad thing that exists, into their group. So how was he even allowed to marry her??

          • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

            Tom Cruise seems to be afforded a different set of standards and rules, so I’m sure that had everything to do with why Nicole was allowed onto the OT levels, though I think she left mid or after OT II, not sure. My understanding is she contributed to TC pulling away from the cult during those 10 years when he was MIA from Miscavige’s side.

          • Lady Squash

            Scientologists are free to marry anyone they choose. It would be odd to ask for permission to marry any particular person. The odd part is that TC decided to marry Nicole in spite of the fact her father was a psychiatrist. Who knows what he was thinking. She’s a beautiful woman. He may not have been thinking of anything other than how wonderful it would be to be married to her. He’s human.

      • Lady Squash

        Neither Nicole nor Katie have spoken out against Scientology. That’s the crime that gets you labeled SP. Distancing oneself is acceptable.

    • Sam Domingo

      “It would appear Scientology’s talons of disconnection do not discriminate” Unless they happen to be Tom Cruise’s wife. Oooh! Cult is scared of Katie!

      • AnyOldName1

        So, Katie, “Where’s Shelley”?

      • Simple Thetan

        They are not scared of Katie, but of Tom Cruise.

        • ThetaBara

          They are scared of what Katie could say. They are scared because even a year later, we are all still watching. They know if they pull any BS at ALL, Katie will have immense backup. And could sing like a canary. They can’t risk it. It might be paternity related, but it might also go beyond that. I’m sure Katie doesn’t know where Shelly is, but I bet she knows a lot.

      • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

        Almost as much as they are scared of Sam Domingo ;) xoxo

      • Marie Claire Wolf

        I know how this will look like one of LRH’s stories, but has any of you ever considered that DM might have sold TC on marriage to a suitable reasonably suggestible lesser celebrity, of course properly vetted by cob, to actually create a life so LRH can at last have a ‘well located vehicle’ to reincarnate. Of course both the {big beings} would insure that the coming child gets all the dope on how to be head honcho. Sound totally like the kind of weird plot hatched by the evil dwarf and would explain why Katie and TC are left to their own devices. Maybe reading all of your incredible stories of misery in Co$ has gone to my head…But there is something there, as the French aphorism says: the more you stir shit the more it stinks!

        • Lady Squash

          Marie, you’re a bit off the mark here. Personally I don’t think DM believes or understands Scientology and the last thing he’d want is for LRH to come back. Look what he’s done to his Church.

    • Robert Eckert

      But with friends like these, who needs enemas? (I’ll show myself out…)

      • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

        Be sure to tip your servers ;)

      • i-Betty

        Heehee :D

    • Marta

      The sound of flushing, covered by over 450 media outlets and counting.

    • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

      Well said Natalie!

      • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

        Thank you ;)

    • El_Jeffe

      OMG Natalie! You’re killing me here! “The Scientology Enema” needs to be copyrighted! I wholeheartedly agree with the analogy. It is an uncomfortable experience flushing out the shit but once you are done you feel like a new person!

      • http://Www.MommaliciousInSuburbia.com/ Natalie

        The best thing about it is that unlike everything else in Scientology, the Scientology enema is FREE!

    • Guest

      They do discriminate though. Tom Cruise didn’t have to disconnect from Katie Holmes and Suri. The only reason they’re doing this is because Leah isn’t very famous anymore and Tom Cruise is (and is BFF with DM)

  • FistOfXenu

    Interesting that it wasn’t Tom “I put ethics ruthlessly in” Cruise that called this meeting. Is he getting shaky and less ruthlessly ethical or did Dangling Modifier tell him to step back because he’s already turning into a PR liability?

    • 1subgenius

      Awaiting reports as to his involvement.

      • FistOfXenu

        News flash: Tom Cruise was just seen on Oprah creating a clay form of a woman. Then he labeled it “Leah” with a piece of cardboard and a string. Next he made a piece of cardboard into the shape of a speech bubble and wrote some thing on it. He held the cardboard over his head and began jumping on the clay form of the woman while cackling like a maniac.

        The speech bubble read “I took a moment to experience the loss of the person I thought was my friend… Then I said f–k her!”

        • 1subgenius

          That quote, even if it isn’t about Leah, is pathetic and horrible in the extreme..

          • FistOfXenu

            I know we can’t be sure it’s specific but the coincidence is hard to believe. The quote’s easy to believe if you take disconnection policy serious. Especially now that Krustie’s going nuclear as if DM had taken possession of her to go after Leah. The idea of saying that about a friend is impossible.

            • Sherbet

              Yeah, and WE’RE supposed to be the benchmark in Internet Mean. Kirstie is a bully. Just because she doesn’t name names doesn’t make her innocent of intimidation.

            • shasha40

              Come on Sherbet, you know there’s a different set of standards for Scions than us wogs. When they bully it’s KSW , just following the tech, baby …

            • Sherbet

              “Do as I say, and not as I do.” Got it.

            • shasha40

              GOT IT NOW ! (Tone 40) Do I get a goldenrod now ?? Puh- lease !

        • richelieu jr

          You have a strange definition of ‘fucking’ FoX! Remind me to stay well out of bed with you!

          • FistOfXenu

            Not my definition. His. But maybe it casts light on an earlier incident with a couch? And on later events?

        • Captain Howdy

          I typed in “sexual clay fetish” on Google images and this one of the first images to come up..N/K (not kidding, not ..)

    • Imelda Marcos

      He’s repulsive to me now. And I’d imagine he and his aircraft would be into the (alleged) human trafficking up to his eyeballs.

    • MissCandle

      It’s a “woman problem.” I don’t think he does those.

  • Ciru

    “even better, just stop reading”. Kirstie Alley sums up Scientology.

    • FistOfXenu

      Sure Krustie. And then why not make them chant quotes from LRH and DM all day long?

      They may as well walk around with fingers in their ears and singing la-la-la-la as loud as they can.

      • sugarplumfairy

        I hear jenna elfman actually does that..

        • FistOfXenu

          ?
          :o

          • sugarplumfairy

            Jk.. But if she yells the things we already know for sure that she yells, it’s not that much of a stretch..

        • 1subgenius

          And it still doesn’t drown out the chattering monkeys in her head.
          (I almost said “brain”.)

    • Xique

      “Just stop reading” , that’s priceless.

      • Nevermore

        I tweeted her asking if she didn’t think that reading ability is a necessary life skill – no answer so far!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          She can’t read!

          • FistOfXenu

            So she’s not super literate?

        • Otto T Mariedahl

          Awww literacy burn! ^^

    • ze moo

      Even Ostriches take their head out the sand once and a while.

    • BosonStark

      Stop reading, the people at the Scilebrity Center will know what to do.

  • InTheNameOfXenu

    There should be no shock here from anyone following Scientology. I saw disconnection used over and over again when I was a cult member 20 years ago. The difference here is that it’s out in the open. Leah needs to do a press conference and explain exactly what her ‘church’ is doing to her and her family. It’s the only way to protect herself and expose Scientology’s abuses to an even wider audiance.

    • 1subgenius

      I’m not so sure that her silence isn’t speaking more loudly.
      She has given them no reason for the retaliation that is occurring, and that will be noted.

    • MTP

      Totally and completely agree. If Leah chooses to do further research on Scientology’s Crimes to it’s members, former members and critics, she will move from the shock phase into anger and wanting to do something about it. Before a Scientologist moves in that phase they have to come to terms with many aspects of Scientology that they hold sacred. Give her time. How ever long it takes.

  • sugarplumfairy

    Wow.. So, Workman is the designer who did kirstie’s fairy house? I’m in awe.. The last time I saw so much pink in one place, I was in utero..

    • FistOfXenu

      So that was 1 of your pre-birth engrams? You had auditing for that?

      • sugarplumfairy

        Small price to pay for the great good fortune of being born into a non-scientology family..

    • cicely neville

      ^^^^^!!!!!

    • ThetaBara

      Right? I’m rather shocked that anyone would take credit for that mess!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      This one is a keeper.

    • Peter

      ROFLMAO!!!

  • Sherbet

    Come ON, Tony! (she whines). I have work to do here in the office, and I can’t stop reading these juicy posts! I’m doomed to Bunker slavery, I tell you. Doomed.

    • shasha40

      Should we start a Bunker addiction support group? Hi, I’m shasha and I’m addicted to The Bunker …

      • Sokramor

        Hi shasha, I’m Sokramor and I am supposed to be working right now…

        • EnthralledObserver

          Hi Bunker addicts… I’m EnthralledObserver and I really should be sleeping right now… but once again I have to read ALL the comments to the latest amazing Bunker story… and they just keep on coming!

          • BuryTheNuts2

            Hi, I Bury…I am nuts.

            • Sidney18511

              Hi, I’m Sidney, and the ENTIRE Sidney family thinks I’m nuts. I believe they are planning an intervention….I must hide my iPad.

      • FistOfXenu

        I’m FistOfXenu and I was supposed to be on my way back to our camp grounds 1/2 hr ago. I’m an addict.

        • Sherbet

          Report to the sauna toute suite. We’ll bake the addiction right out of you.

          • sugarplumfairy

            Lol..

      • sugarplumfairy

        Hey, I can stop any time I want.. =)

        • FistOfXenu

          Me too. I’ve stopped hundreds of times already.

        • Captain Howdy

          “if they made it legal to do Bunker at work, I wouldn’t have to sneak around, hiding in linen closets and bathrooms.”

        • George Layton

          I stop every time the internet goes down.

      • Sherbet

        “Hi, shasha.”

        • shasha40

          Hi Sherbert, I’m a Bunkerholic. Gonna be hard to quit if this is our meeting site ! Lmao ! But I really don’t have an addiction to the Bunker. (Damn tablet, can’t find the sarcasm font!

          • Sherbet

            I rely on my Higher Power (that would be Tony). But, heck, he’s an enabler!

        • shasha40

          Hi Sherbet , Welcome to BA !

      • RMycroft

        I have a Serenity prayer, but it involves brown coats.

        • V4Vacation

          do you aim to misbehave? ;)

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hi Sasha.

        I’m Douglas and I keep my posting here secret from even my family.

        • shasha40

          Nice to meet you Douglas ! Me too, they think I’m addicted , but I’m ….

          • Robert Eckert

            No, the proper response is “HI DOUGLAS!!!” at Tone 40

            • shasha40

              Please, no, don’t send me to the Hole !

            • Robert Eckert

              In 12-step programs, the worst punishment is being made to drink the last cup of coffee from the bottom of the big urn.

            • MissCandle

              He says only after I just now drank the last, microwave re-heated, cup of coffee from my DM-sized urn — leftover from this morning (Eastern time).

            • shasha40

              Oh good !

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Tone 40 is scary. I prefer loud and obnoxious. It’s more… honest.

            • monkeyknickers

              In my family, it’s sweet talk. :)

              Tone 0.0 and you know you’re about to get your ass kicked.

              :)

            • FistOfXenu

              “HI DOUGLAS! SIT DOWN! THANK YOU!”

        • Casabeca

          Why, oh why don’t our families beg for even more Bunker news ;-) ?

      • Minion Gayle

        I’m sorry. I don’t have time for this group. I might miss something at the Bunker. *twitch*

    • q-bird

      hello fellow slaves. q-bird checking in – in between chores & work – :-)
      waving like crazy in your general direction.

    • Minion Gayle

      I literally cannot keep up these days, and I’m just convinced there some awesome comments I’m missing out on.

      • Sherbet

        I was away over the weekend, and I barely gave the blog a glance during that time. But now I’m back in the saddle, and I can’t say “no.”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Yeah, if you missed this weekend there’s no sense in going back over the material. Just keep moving onward!

          • Sherbet

            Up the bridge I go, D3, onward and upward.

            Let me put it this way: I skimmed the postings, but I didn’t say much.

        • Casabeca

          Was in the hospital in late May, as soon as I woke up and had the code for Internet, you know I was reading the Bunker first thing! Total addict here.

      • FistOfXenu

        Seriously, this.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Yes, you are missing out on all the brilliance that is ME!

        • Minion Gayle

          I’ll try harder to keep up. The four-year old will just have to fend for herself.

          • Robert Eckert

            Thetans in little bodies ought have no trouble fending for themselves, right? Just ask Jenna or Derek.

            • Minion Gayle

              As long as there’s a steady supply of “fiery hot cheetos” in the house, she’ll be happy.

  • Vistaril

    Disgusting to see again L Ron Hubbard PTS / SP Doctrine in action with its mandate to disconnect from those who might hamper a Scientologist’s progress up the Bridge To Xenu.

    What is delightful for this Scientology watcher is the fact that, once again, L Ron Hubbard’s premier public relations initiative has turned out to be something of a disaster. I’m referring to “Project Celebrity”, a slice of Scientology {scripture} delievered to the flock in an early-1955 Minor II edition of the “Ability” magazine. It highlighted the importance of celebrities in influencing public opinion and encouraged Scientologists to hunt specific celebrities. Those Scientologists able to deliver their “quarry” into an hypnosis auditing session would be rewarded with a small plague. And thus began Scientology’s celebrity PR angle.

    It has to be admitted the practise has been successful, but not always. There were early indications of how it might turn into a footbullet. William S. Borroughs, a leading figure in the 1960s “beat generation” movement, was lured into Scientology in the late 1960s. By 1970, however, Borroughs had largely shaken off most of the Scientology mindfuck and wrote a scathing article which appear in the March 6, 1970 edition of the Los Angeles Free Press”. His article started . . .

    In view of the fact that my articles and statements on Scientology may have influenced young people to associate themselves with the so called Church of Scientology, I feel an obligation to make my present views on the subject quite clear.

    Some of the techniques are highly valuable and warrant further study and experimentation. The E Meter is a useful device … (many variations of this instrument are possible). On the other hand I am in flat disagreement with the organizational policy. No body of knowledge needs an organizational policy. Organizational policy can only impede the advancement of knowledge. There is a basic incompatibility between any organization and freedom of thought. Suppose Newton had founded a Church of Newtonian Physics and refused to show his
    formula to anyone who doubted the tenets of Newtonian Physics? All organizations create organizational necessities. It is precisely organizational necessities that have prevented Scientology from obtaining the
    serious consideration merited by the importance of Mr. Hubbard’s discoveries. Scientologists are not prepared to accept intelligent and sometimes critical evaluation. They demand unquestioning acceptance . . .

    A year later and Borroughs had pretty much shaken off the remainder of his indoctrination. He pubished “Ali’s Smile : Naked Scientology”. Borrough’s became a staunch supporter of Robert Kaufman, defending the release of the Xenu material and providing much needed publicity for a book L Ron Hubbard was intent on having banned. Borrough’s went on to write several articles, notably in “Rolling Stone” and “Mayfair” and on one occasion published a photo of a secret Scientology location, forcing the cult to relocate.

    Unfortunately, the fall out from “Project Celebrity” has largely been collateral damage, rather than a deliberate exposure because few celebrities have actually spoken out after shiting away from the cult. Notable exceptions include Elvis Presley and, of course, our much loved Jason Beghe. Leah Remini is now in a great position to join this fine company but, alas, appears to be at the stage where Borroughs was in 1970. Even worse, there are those close to Leah dedicated to getting her back on the hypno-cans and thus preventing or, at least, delaying her recovery from the cult experience.

    Still, I am grateful for her actions to date, and am proud that we on the outside are rallying around to fill the void she is experiencing with our love and support. At this stage. she doesn’t have to worry about the syrup, its the tech which is the real concern. The last thing a person escaping Scientology needs is more Scientology.

    • Kevin Woolard

      “Those Scientologists able to deliver their “quarry” into an hypnosis auditing session would be rewarded with a small plague.” … it’s just the sheer lack of gratitude that get’s you, isn’t it?

      • FistOfXenu

        I’m lolling as I type this.

        EDIT: They say neglect victims some times are grateful for any kind of attention.

      • Mark

        Definition of “a small plague”: David Miscavige.

        Bubonic, probably.

        • Vistaril

          Heh!! I really wish I’d bought a keyboard that can spell.

          • Mark

            I’m certain it was pure serendipity that guided your fingers.

        • Ciru

          He does look a bit like a rat.

        • RMycroft

          Back then it would have been that Hubbola virus.

          • monkeyknickers

            HA!!!

            HA! HA!

            (cough)

            HAHA!

            Edit: I don’t think Ebola is funny.
            Just saying.

            • Captain Howdy

              Not funny, but somewhat ironic. Stupid humans eat their “relatives” thus creating a super virus that could have wiped out all stupid humans if it had gone airborne.

    • richelieu jr

      Great, informative post, but a few spelling errors. ‘Plague’ has been noticed, and it is ‘Burroughs’ with a ‘u’…

      Excellent stuff! Learned somehitng!

      • Vistaril

        Thanks. The spelling errors are starting to bug me, particularly the Borroughs one so I’m gonna fix ‘em.

        • Robert Eckert

          Except for “plague” I hope.

          • FistOfXenu

            Please leave “plague” – maybe just footnote it or something.

            • Vistaril

              Who am I to intefere with serendipity ; )

      • MissCandle

        I assumed plague was a freudian slip. And I liked it that way.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Did Hubbard really think Picasso, Walter Winchell, Ernest Hemingway, George Gobel, and Liberace would join his church?

      • FistOfXenu

        Hell, he was so bat shit crazy he thought he saw a pre clear make an ash tray lift 3 feet off a desk without touching it. Made the particles of the ash tray talk to the earth or some thing. Made gravity disappear. Why wouldn’t he expect the rich and famous to fall at his feet?

        • Phil McKraken

          OK, I’ll top that. He was SO CRAZY that he thought that if you read his cuckoo gibberish in the wrong order, you could die from it.

          • FistOfXenu

            Not to mention dying from reading OTIII before you’ve done it (paid for it).

            • Peter

              I was on OTIII for only three days. Realized that in order to audit out the bts, I first had to create them. My subsequent realization was that I was somehow running lrh’s case! ROFL Dial wide F/Ns!!!

            • V4Vacation

              I’m sure we would all love to hear more of your story. ;)

          • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

            He was SO CRAZY that he thought that if you read his cuckoo gibberish in the wrong order, you could die from it.

            I don’t think he believed that. I think he wanted to make sure only people who had already sunk tons of time and money into his cult would see it, because he knew that if they saw it beforehand, they would realize they’d been conned.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        The two names that jumped off that list for me were Groucho Marx and Earle Stanley Gardner. Groucho found everything ridiculous, and Gardner was an investigative lawyer with credentials a yard long.

        Hubbard’s mental discombobulation was evident so very, very early. Pity no one could disseminate it as quickly as they can today. Thanks, internet!

        • Still_On_Your_Side

          Billy Graham and Archbishop Sheen are also on the list. For some reason I can’t see them switching religions.

          • Sherbet

            Seriously? lrh must have coveted Graham’s arena audiences and Sheen’s popular television show.

          • cicely neville

            Not a prayer of that! Can you imagine what those two would have to say.
            “Quarry”, “your game” of Edward R. Murrow? Stokowski? How stupid did they think everyone else was?
            Should not have read this. Too soon after breakfast. (Is there a cute little emoticon for vomiting?)

        • monkeyknickers

          How well said, D. That’s the thing that befuddles me to this day. The guy was a freaky dickhead from the GUN, man. How is this even a thing?? Why is my sister worshiping an old fat white guy who writes like absolute shit?? Who gave this cat LEGS even. ?? Did they not have the INTERNET in the 50s????

          Oh. Wait.

          They didn’t.

          Hmmmmmm. Okay. Rethinking.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Cognition. It’s not just for Scientologists any more…!

          • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

            They had books, magazines, and newspapers. The internet has certainly helped, but people knew what Scientology was from the start. Just look at Dianetics: it’s nonsense. I think if Scientologists all read that stupid, stupid book, Scientology would be even more of a shell than it is today.

        • FistOfXenu

          And Liberace was famously gay even though nobody dared say it too loud. You have to wonder if homosexuality is so down tone how is it LRH once claimed to be Cecil Rhodes (gay) and kept pulling in gay people that he had to later get rid of again? Not counting the Magick Masturbation episode of course. So what was going on with him?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            And Dietrich was a famous Hollywood bisexual. Hubbard’s discernment wasn’t quite “all that” at that.

            • monkeyknickers

              You’re smart

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I keep telling people that…

          • Peter

            And let’s not forget his son, Quentin! That must have really screwed up lrh’s head!

          • monkeyknickers

            I am afraid to ask, Fox.

            I am.

            What do you mean magick masturbation episode. What the hell is that.

            • FistOfXenu

              You must’ve missed that day. You’ll have to make it up before the test. Read Atack’s Piece of Blue Sky, part 2, chapter 10, “His Magickal Career”.

            • monkeyknickers

              Shit. I did read that book – with verve.

              I musta been high on crack again. Also being pregnant makes you a total fucking idiot. And so – I return to the text. :)

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Liberace was GAY?

            • FistOfXenu

              Not that any body dared say it in public. He was almost as quick to sue as Para$citology. But even kids too young to know what a homosexual was knew that what ever it was, Liberace was 1. And back then it was a big deal.

              But I guess you knew all that. ;)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Hubbard’s celeb project plan netted him more D-Listers to B-Listers, as well as family members or friends/associates of the stars. Ernest Hemingway’s son, Gigi, for example:

      “What else to say of him? He was getting a hundred bucks in the mail every month from his father as part of Hemingway’s divorce agreement with his mother. He’d become a semi-disillusioned believer in the gospel of L. Ron Hubbard and the pseudo-psychiatry of Dianetics. The year before, he’d been so certain that Hubbard’s claims about “auditing” your unconscious were going to rid him of the compulsion he despised and yet curiously craved. (All his life he would talk about the cross-dressing having this strange calming effect on his nerves, even as it was thrilling him.) At about the time Gigi had come to swallow Dianetics whole, Hubbard had come up with this crazed idea about Benzedrine, vitamins, and glutamic acid: the “Guk” treatment. It was a chemical way of auditing yourself, without the need of a partner. You self-administered huge amounts of vitamins every two hours for 24 hours. Might Gigi have been high on the Guk on the night he entered the unknown movie house? It’s only one more of the unknowns.”

      http://www.ft.com/cms/s/2/c4cd6566-3c0a-11e1-bb39-00144feabdc0.html#axzz1jNkNOsfO

    • justpassingby

      I love that Bob Hope was on L Ron Hubbard’s list of targeted celebrities! “Rrrrrr…I gotta tell ya, this auditing stuff is wild! This is Bob “Cognition” Hope saying fill up with Texaco, your car will drive like new from here to Target Two. Boy, when they said pick up the cans, I thought they meant the Gabor sisters! Rrrrrr, it’s wild…”

  • Imelda Marcos

    Oh, honestly. This is like a combination of ridiculous high school hallway shenanigans and the Borg.

    • Captain Howdy

      “Resistance is futile..You will be defriended”

      • Imelda Marcos

        This should be on their website. ;)

      • Imelda Marcos

        This should be on their website. ;)

      • monkeyknickers

        This is the most hilarious thing I’ve ever read.

        I’m not fucking with you.

        GAWAD. I’m still laughing.

        • Captain Howdy

          You’re pregnant with twins, you’re not in your right mind. Thanks anyway.

          • monkeyknickers

            No really. I’m still laughing. You know how it is when someone funny says something especially funny and then . . . you know . . . with the laughing.

            The pregnancy thing is a complete drag tho, I grant you that. :)

      • John P.

        This is why the membership numbers keep going down. The Borg numbers kept going up because they believed in assimilation, not disconnection. Much smarter way to do business.

        That and the way Jeri Ryan (Seven of Nine) looked in that skintight silver metallic Spandex cat suit, which probably helped them with the voluntary recruiting more than a little bit. You know, a bunch of horny Klingons hollering “assimilate me, baby!” in some spaceport bar…

        • Captain Howdy

          My wife was watching reruns of Voyager way back when, and I looked at it and told her there was no way I could take Mrs Colombo serious as Capt. anything

          Then I saw Seven of Nine and almost fainted. if it wasn’t for Jeri, Obama probably wouldn’t be POTUS.

          Jeri Ryan FTW!

          • monkeyknickers

            Okay hi again it’s me.

            Seven of nine, sighted at the SM Farmer’s market, was the seriously awesomest moment of my early hollywood exp.

            And I never would have KNOWN that had my father not been secretly watching Star Trek in the middle of the night when it was only him and me (his fellow insomniac) and 900 dogs awake. Just saying.

            I feel you brother.

        • InTheNameOfXenu

          Borg is the wrong analogy for Scilons-you’re right. I see Scientologists like the hapless humans in The Matrix. However not only are they victims but predators. They will attack their own if a member fails to conform.

  • 0tessa

    Leah Remini: Thank you. I understand. I repeat the question: “Where is Shelley Miscavige?”

  • Synthia Fagen

    Hate crimes by a hate group — plain and simple.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Thank You! That is Exactly what it is. And Leah is getting Very Special Treatment at the moment. She is not yet declared? That means Miscavige is trying to reel her and her family back in, you can take that one to the bank.

      The friends and business connection spider web of the last remaining scientologists is as others have remarked becoming cannibalized. So many of these names, Wiseman, Price, Workman have been practicing kicking their friends, family and business associates to the curb (for 30 or more years) they are Pro’s by now which is why I find statements that Leah is Shocked really a bit of a stretch.

      For example, Michelle Workman is also buddy buddy with another Interior Designer to the rich and famous, Felicia Bushman. Felicia can give Michelle a full course on “how to” with no remorse. She was Nicole Kidman’s former assistant. Her mother is Sioux Hart, a veteran scientologist FSM (field sales) since the 70’s. It’s not like any of them don’t Know. That is impossible. And Leah and her husband should start asking for their folders. You can be certain Wiseman and Price have been reporting in about every little detail of the Remini family they think The Boss should know.

      I will say this. It appears those circling in the drain now are whooshing around faster and faster so just by sheer centrifugal force, jumping out and making a clean break is getting more and more difficult. But make no mistake, each one still in has seen hundreds if not thousands “disappear” from their inner circle. Those who say they don’t know “why” to me are saying they didn’t care enough to ask. But they sure as hell notice the empty seats at the events.

      Here’s a pic of Felicia and Michelle

      http://i40.tinypic.com/2a83mkg.jpg

      • Otto T Mariedahl

        Maybe COB is trying to do things “by-the-book” to calm down the other Scientology Celebs?

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Now that the mud is about two feet deep…I think COB is finally in over his head!

          • Otto T Mariedahl

            To bad that Lubb-lard didn’t invent snorkel-tech

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          by the book would be Declare, Smear Machine in full force, all friends, family, associates sec checked until dirt is found or manufactured, full press media attacks, freedumb mag distrubuted on Hollywood Blvd, OSA Harrasment team Intimidation tactics begun, private detectives hired and to follow, freak out her family, and hunt for more dirt on Them.

          • Otto T Mariedahl

            Hmmm don’t a lot of exes talk about how they where just declared instead of having a proper Scientology “trial”?

      • cicely neville

        Her mother is named ‘Sioux’? Oh, gag me with a spoon.

        • Minion Gayle

          I wonder if that was the name her parents gave her or one she picked for herself.

          • FistOfXenu

            She’s not from the 60’s is she? Kids got some pretty weird names then.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Sioux has to be in her 60’s now. Her first grandchild (Felicia’s first) had picture in ASHO’s Auditor mag, “Statistics” section, where they show births, deaths, marriages. Sioux proudly announced not the birth weight, length, the usual brand new baby stuff, but that her grandchild was already an IAS Lifetime member (meaning someone in the family had already been regging the baby for cash via proud members). Sick stuff.

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              I think I just threw up in my mouth.

            • FistOfXenu

              So she’s too old to blame hippies for corrupting her parents’ common sense?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              She Was/Is one of us old hippies.

            • Minion Gayle

              I am grateful every day to be Gayle and not Moonbeam or Sunflower.

            • MissCandle

              Or Suri, or Apple, or North . . . oh wait. those are from the 10’s.

            • Robert Eckert

              And I’m glad to be Robert, rather than Track or Tagg. Republicans can be even worse on boys than hippies were on girls.

            • Minion Gayle

              I’m expecting some big payout from Grace one day, when she realizes all the things I could have named her.

      • Vistaril

        I agree. The idea that Leah is “shocked” seems almost disingenuous. Sitting here in my mum’s basement with my tinfoil hat on, I’m wondering if the way this is playing out might indicate Leah left some time ago and we are watching a predetermined media strategy roll out. That would be great because, if so, it might be that there’s a lot more to come. Fingers crossed.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          As I understand it, she had been “off lines” or inactive for the last year, that she got tips from Lisa Marie Presley, that she changed phones, changed her security staff, etc. If someone is saying that Leah is “shocked” I suspect that is for someone’s benefit, don’t know who, but no way is she shocked. Pissed off, yes. She has definitely had the special privileges of a scientology celeb. Continuing in her faith, and in fact, often making comments about it publicly, is Not allowed for non celebs. I think Leah was prepared for the fall out and is looking or listening to Lisa and Katie. They Appear to have been left alone by keep up the “No Comment” about scientology.

          She also has to think about her career. PI here has commented on the studio execs no longer wanting to put up with a lot of distracting or annoying crap from even the top stars, plus a huge amount of $ goes into their promotion. If those PR spots and interview minutes get eaten up by questions about scientology harrassment and smears, it might make them withdraw their support. So by staying silent, after a week or month the noise will go away.

          • Vistaril

            Dash my hopes, why dontchya ; )

            But, yeah, once again, sooth you speak borne upon words of wisdom.

        • John P.

          I think that being “shocked” at the treatment is good media strategy on Leah’s part, leading the way to a later campaign of going on the warpath and blowing the lid off the cult, if she chooses to do that.

          To the extent it is true and not just a media front, they may be shocked because Tom Cruise is not disconnecting from his ex-wife and his daughter, and Priscilla Presley did not apparently have to disconnect from Lisa Marie when she blew. So they may have thought that they were big enough celebrities in the hierarchy that they could quietly fade away if they made no public statement of their own — Angelo’s statement to Tony O when Tony interviewed him is proof point #1 that they were trying to slink away quietly.

          I could certainly see that if I were in Leah/Angelo’s shoes, I could reasonably conclude that Leah was on the Lisa Marie level (though clearly not on the TC/JT level). And I could, if I were optimistic, believe that if I tried to fade away with a frozen smile, not saying anything directly to the press, that I would fare no worse than Lisa Marie and a few other ex celebs.

          I think the treatment they’re getting now is going to light the real powder keg… this story’s going to get a lot worse for the cult before it fades away.

          • Vistaril

            Indeed. Upon reconsideration in light of the learned responses to my naive optimism, I’m now wondering if the treatment being dished out to Leah has less to do with her personally and more to do with setting an example to other celebs who might be on the fence. A “head on a pike”, and all that. Happily, and as you mention, this tactic will have the opposite effect, thanks to the internet. Fortunately, and thanks to L Ron Hubbard, Scientology has no ability to adapt. To swipe TheHoleDoesNotExist’s analogy in expressing my agreement with your analysis, the vortex swilling around the toilet bowl that is Scientology, can only gain momentum. Yippeeee!!

            • Robert Eckert

              I think it has most to do with the specific question she asked. WHERE’S SHELLY?

            • Vistaril

              Assuming, of course, the “WHERE’S SHELLY” question is not a concoction to assist with a pre-determined media strategy . . . sure. But, hey, what a great tactic.

  • Mr. Fabulous

    Is there a bigger, more paranoid hate group out there than the criminally convicted cult of Scientology? If there is, I don’t know of it

    • Spackle Motion

      Is there a bigger, more paranoid looking avatar out there than the creepy, smiling one you use?

      Just kidding. I can’t stop looking at it for some reason. I love it.

      • Mr. Fabulous

        “I can’t stop looking at it for some reason.”

        Resistance is futile. You’re mine. :)

  • Sam Domingo

    Let the games begin. Silly cult. They just can’t help themselves. Don’t they KNOW they’re only digging themselves in deeper? It’s beyond childish or vicious now. It’s like they’re on a roundabout and they can’t jump off.

    • Sam Domingo

      Wonder how long it will take Joe and Marilu Domingo to disconnect? They’re usually on the extra thpecial president’s list at CCInt.

      • Sam Domingo

        Oooh! They’ll be ordered to do damage control on the Domingo family! Extra popcorn please! Bonus!!!!

        • BuryTheNuts2

          Now you are just crackin me up!

        • Sherbet

          I love having you here, Sam. (That’s me fawning all over a famous ex.)

          • Sam Domingo

            I’m not the famous one. But cult is scared of me because I already spoke to the person who is famous right when this started. OSA – he knows all your tricks already (and he’s not a fan). Don’t even bother.

            • Artoo45

              Well, you’re famous in these here parts . . .

            • Sam Domingo

              That’s just cos I’ve got a big mouth :D heh!

            • Sam Domingo

              And a short fuse ;)

        • Sam Domingo

          Are you reading this Joe? I know you like to troll the internet even though it’s against ‘orders’. Come on man! Speak up! I’m right here.

          • Sam Domingo

            You were vocal enough when you were slagging off Gold a few years back and saying how they staged the whole Narconon Ensenada project and it was all bullshit. Which side are you going to choose now? The one that benefits you the most? Or the right one?

            • Sam Domingo

              …. Sorry :( Ranting again

            • Sam Domingo

              And Joe (while I’m on a roll); Back off from trying to ‘handle’ my kids back into the cult. Never going to happen.

            • Sam Domingo

              Thanks for the rant space Tony. Much obliged xxx

            • 1subgenius

              Your rant check is overdue.

            • cicely neville

              We’ve got your back , Sam.

            • tetloj

              xxx (kisses)

            • MissCandle

              Kinda quoting Taylor Swift — They are never ever ever ever ever getting back together.

            • Observer

              Rant away!

            • Sam Domingo

              Seems I have a lot of pent up anger :D Must be at the venting stage of recovery now :D

            • Observer

              There’s a lot to rant about.

            • monkeyknickers

              Rant away girl. Fuck those assholes.

            • Artoo45

              Ranting? I think of it as “constructive engagement.” You go right ahead, I’ll make the popcorn . . .

            • FistOfXenu

              Popcorn? I need lunch soon. How about a chili cheese burger?

            • Minion Gayle

              Oh no, please continue. I’m quite enjoying this.

              Fist, pass the popcorn!

            • Sherbet

              I need to find out Sam’s entire story. I know only snippets of it.

            • V4Vacation

              Here’s Tony’s VV article from 2011 on how CoS harrassed the Domingos. :) http://blogs.villagevoice.com/runninscared/2011/07/placido_domingo.php

            • Sherbet

              Thanks, V.

            • Sam Domingo

              I’m on it :)

          • MissCandle

            I, for one, am glad you are here. : )

            • Sam Domingo

              Smelled blood in the water. Figured now would be a good time to jump in :D

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      The Last Stand, Last Days of Scientology, Host to the Parasites who wouldn’t unplug…. it was never going to be pretty and always insane, ramped up to levels not often seen in the glaring light of public media. Hbo will have a ghoulish series on its hands by year end

  • loulai

    Why should they be surprised? Haven’t they seen this before with other scientologists who dared to question “authority”? Probably they even participated in shunning some of those people.

    • 1subgenius

      First they came for the others and I did not speak out.

  • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

    Often, when compelled to explain something that is happening with Scientology I will begin by saying, “I know this sounds unbelievable but this is what has happened…”. Even describing what Scientology does makes a person sounds paranoid and delusional. I have to tell people that I realize that what I am about to say sounds that way, but is nonetheless true.

    This sad scandal may shine a bright light on Scientology and in a way that the Jenna Miscavige and Lawrence Wright books, and The Master, are unable to. Leah Remini is not as accomplished as multiple academy award winner like Paul Haggis, but she is far better known. People will read about this and identify with her when they may not be able to with an aging man who works behind the scenes. They will be able to read about her without first learning Scientolgese, understanding that this group is trouble in a way that no other church could possibly be.

    As usual, Scientology’s reaction has made things worse. The story changes from Leah Remini leaving a fringe cult to Kirtie Alley and Leah Remini in a cat fight. I will bet anyone here a can of soda to be received at the party after the cult fails, that one tabloid will headline Alley Cat Fight. Any takers?

    Most people who think about Scientology at all, think it is a fairly harmless bunch of wackos whose cosmology involves space aliens and who worship with some sort of electronic device. They don’t see it for what it is– a school for psychosis. This will help people get to the root of what really goes on there.

    I can’t wait. This story will grow geometrically.

    • AnyOldName1

      “after the cult fails, that one tabloid will headline Alley Cat Fight. Any takers?”

      I think that headline will be coming any day now LOL. ^^^This is why Leah’s silence is golden. The twat is tweeting mean and her beingness is a bully. Leah is above that.

      • Robert Eckert

        You parsed the sentence wrong. He is betting that a tabloid will use that headline, and the bet is one Coke to be delivered when we get together to party after the cult fails.

        • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

          Thanks. I am not always clear. I fixed up the sentence, a wee bit.

          • AnyOldName1

            Got it! Not betting you – I think it’s a given for the headline ;)

            My point was, Leah is not engaging in the cat fight and it’s making Kirstie look like a bully. Just like a fat, mean old Alley Cat.

    • cicely neville

      No takers. You win already. But not ‘church; MKT ‘Cherch’ or {Church}. Dang, people, pick up your brackets!

      • Captain Howdy

        {Vagina brackets are for pussies!}

        • FistOfXenu

          lol

        • cicely neville

          Cap’n, there’s a fridge magnet I’d love to share with you. shows a ’50’s -looking girl sitting on a beach ball. Maybe you can find it on line? With a caption about what can take a pounding?

    • richelieu jr

      It is true that Hubbard understood all too well Goebbel’s comment about ‘The Big Lie’ being easier to believe;. To that he added: And easier to get away with because no one will believe your enemies when they try and talk a bout it, because it will sound like they are making it up on the spot (not that that stopped him from amassing Scientologists with stuff he made up on the spot!

    • MissCandle

      Watch out — Perez Hilton will steal your tabloid headline … wanna bet that too?

      • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

        A Coke against two Mountain Dews. See you when the deck of cards crashes.

  • Racnad

    When I was a believer I was really bothered that the Church would dictate to us who we may & may not communicate with. It must bother others as well. The seeds of disaffection are spreading.

    • music8r

      Indeed. I remember stopping those kinds of thoughts. And when I could not stop them, I looked for my overts. (Shuddering at the memory.)

  • Simple Thetan

    For a short while it is going to be hard for Leah to see her “friends” walk away. It will get a lot better for her. In no time she will be in a much better condition than she ever was in Co$. She has gone free. Co$ promises freedom, but delivers fascism. She will now be able to have real friends, as mind slaves cannot befriend and cannot be trusted. She will not have vaulters defrauding her. No more fake smile. I think she will find happiness, like anyone who has left the Church of Slaves.

    As for those she supported, I would recommend she hires a good lawyer (Jeffers for example), and go after them. She should give them a way out – denounce disconnection in public. Who knows, maybe someone will.

    • 1subgenius

      I’m betting that many of her non-Scientologist friends will reach out to her offering support.
      And that she will feel the love of many others she doesn’t know yet.

      • Simple Thetan

        Yes, and for a change, this support will be genuine.

  • Barb Snow

    What a coinkydink. Workman is a Scientolgist interior decorator, sought after by the stars — that is, those stars who happen to be Scientologists.

    • 1subgenius

      A somewhat limited market.
      I wonder if all his designs include an LRH office?

    • ze moo

      All the great interior designers move to Chattanooga.

      • FistOfXenu

        Maybe she moved near Chattanooga, in a part where the internet isn’t so good, so she’s safe from reading entheta.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      So few stars, apparently, that she couldn’t replace Leah’s name with another.

      • Robert Eckert

        Good point.

    • MissCandle

      OMX, is workman the decorator of K.A.’s Maine pepto bismol house of which pictures were recently posted on this blog? reason enough to disconnect from workman just ’cause of her work, man.

  • scnethics

    I doubt Leah is actually ‘stunned’ by the disconnections. She would have expected this to happen. She grew up in the ‘church’ with no money, so she knows the real deal. That doesn’t change the fact that it hurts to have everyone you know, including long time friends and family, disconnect from you. The sting of disconnection is stunning. I feel for her.

  • Gerard Plourde

    I think this coordinated effort against Leah indicates the level of panic in the CO$. There must be a number of other celebrities who are also beginning to doubt and making Leah an example is designed to get them back in line. Why else would they so publicly confirm the existence and true nature of disconnection?

    • 1subgenius

      This will have a big effect on non-scilon celebrities too.
      “Have you no decency?” they may ask.

      • Gerard Plourde

        You’re right. Isn’t there a whale that was discussed last week who was reported to be complaining? (I can’t find the posting that had it right now.)

        • Robert Eckert

          The Scientology Celebrity site mentioned Duggan (I’m not familiar with the name, but exes were) calling the head honchos and not getting his calls returned.

          • Gerard Plourde

            Thanks.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Duggan was very involved, and I believe was head of, Computer Motion Inc. Perhaps as a venture capitalist. Computer motion was a leader in the research and creation of minimally invasive robotic surgery.

            There was a merger, IIRC, between Intuitive, the other leader in robotic surgery and Computer Motion.

            I think that Duggan was bought out and pushed out of the merged company. There were quite a few scientologists working there, including some friends of mine.

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Duggan also donated 20 million in one pop to Church!

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              and hardly the only pop

        • V4Vacation
    • Lady Schadenfreude

      Exactly what I was thinking. This is a warning for any fence-sitting whales or celebs to stay in, pay up and shut up, or face not only losing your interior designer, but also the wrath of a fully mobilized Celebrity $cibot Disconnection army. Now with Twitter!

      • FistOfXenu

        Making an example of her. A difference between people that really have authority and people that wish they did and know they don’t is that people with real authority don’t have to be mindlessly brutal and harsh to make a point. Insecure little ninnies like DM pick the wrong times and the wrong people and the wrong ways to flex the muscles they wish they had. He’ll scare a few people that would’ve been just as scared by more reasonable actions and leave a bunch of fence sitters deciding what to do next. But he’ll also piss off people that’ll look at this and finally realize he’s out of his fucking mind.

        Makes me think of the story Jon Atack told about when he figured out how bad things really were because of all the pressure on him to stop talking to his friends, and the more he asked why? the worse it got. And he blew.

        So keep going Demented Midget. Your personal doomsday clock is creeping closer to midnight and like the asshole you really are you’re making it run faster instead of trying to slow it down.
        Tick Tock.

  • Edward Whalley

    I had no idea how deep the divide went in the Los Angeles area. Fancy having even your interior decorator flee from you over a religious decision! Anyway, perhaps we ought to take back the word “squirrel”. A squirrel is a comical creature on the surface, but he/she is provident for the future and knows that the tastiest acorns are those that have been leached of acid on the ground. The Squirrel Girl is the most powerful Marvel hero, with her beloved friends Monkey Joe and Tippy-toe.

    Celebrate Squirrel Pride! Give acorns to your friends and foe! Give nut baskets to Orgs, with messages that they aren’t forgotten! Celebrate partings from the church as birthdays! Collect squirrel figurines and plushes! Put squirrel stickers near places where Scns hang out! Drive ‘em NUTS!

    • 1subgenius

      Those bastards are hella smart. Just try to design a bird feeder they can’t get into.

      • Captain Howdy

        They’re not smart enough to keep the Bluejays from grabbing their ill gotten nuts from them.

    • N. Graham

      Yes, Squirrel Girl rocks!

      • Captain Howdy

        Print ‘em up, slap ‘em up all over town.

    • Captain Howdy

      Squirrel stickers.. For The Nuts!

  • HeatherGraceful

    It’s one thing to know that disconnection happens in Scientology. I imagine it’s another thing altogether to find that your own loved and trusted friends are willing to disconnect from you. I’m not surprised that Leah and her family are stunned. We’ve seen the same thing when others have had disconnection bite, even when they expected it.

    Keep strong, Leah and family. It gets better.

  • HeatherGraceful

    I wonder what has happened to Jojo Z, the usual Scilon Facebook police!

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Quiet as a mouse since July 12th.
      And only talking about her music prior to that date.

  • dagobarbz

    Hah…SPs weren’t lying about disconnection after all…pretty truthful for a pack of downstat liars, aren’t we…

    • Observer

      Does it count since it’s unacceptable truth?

  • Sam Domingo

    But… but… that’s impossible. Disconnection doesn’t exist!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eC5hoyIgpKc

    • monkeyknickers

      He seriously looks SO SO puffy-eyed and hungover here. I appreciate it’s 4 AM for him but . . . . .where’s the damn swollen lid tech here?? Davis never heard of an ice cube? I MEAN COME ON. :))

      • Captain Howdy

        Heh.

        • monkeyknickers

          Loving you.

          • Captain Howdy

            Likewise.

    • MTP

      Tommy Davis is a talking like a true Suppressive. (According to Hubbard) Suppressive people use generalities, example; (Tommy Davis) “this is a perfect example of how the internet turns things and twists things”. “THE INTERNET” in this case as Tommy Davis is referring is a used as a generality and Tommy is intentionally saying that the source of this false information is GENERALIZED. What this does is create the apparency for Scientologists that there is a DANGEROUS ENVIRONMENT on the INTERNET and that THE INTERNET as a generality is the source of false data, instead any one individual. It’s intentional obfuscation and telling a lie about SOURCE.
      For any Scientologist trained in PTS/SP they will at once understand what I am saying but they WILL ALSO SUPPRESS IT. (cognitive dissonance) (NOT-ISNESS) So, here we have the church spokesman willfully and knowingly using an untruth in a very highly publicized statement, AND he’s showing suppressive traits. WHEN SCIENTOLOGISTS INSPECT CHURCH MANAGEMENT AND FIND EVIDENCE OF SUPPRESSION THEY HAVE NO CHOICE BUT TO LEAVE. Why? Because there is NO ONE to send a “knowledge report” TO. It’s like sending a written complaint to Hitlers office of public affairs that Jews are being slaughtered. WAKE UP SCIENTOLOGSTS. Your church is being run by a TRUE Suppressive.

  • ze moo

    From the Urban Dictionary

    FAIR-WEATHER FRIEND

    1 A friend who is only a friend when circumstances are pleasant or profitable. At the first sign of trouble, these capricious, disloyal friends will drop their relationship with you.

    2 A friend who is only around when they need you.

    3 A friend who is only nice to you when it’s convenient. Someone who’s wishy-washy. Someone who is a “backstabber.” Someone who abandons you in certain situations.

    4 a psuedo friend. One who pretends to be your friend when things are good. Leaves when things go astray or are not quite like they think they should be.

    Should I make a clay model of someone sliding a knife into someones back?? Why do I keep hearing the O’Jays ‘Backstabbers’ in my head???

    I was surprised to see Leah Remini’s story get so much coverage in the last week. The public ‘disconnection’
    is going to get a lot of media attention and put a nice big wooden stake in the clampires heart. “You don’t have the rank to ask that question”. Davey, you’re the rankest person I know of …..

  • Mr. Fabulous
    • Otto T Mariedahl

      Good find, to bad he didn’t include the “poison syrup” tweet, that one was cray in the cray-cray.

      • Minion Gayle

        Everyone should include that one, nice and bold. It’s the cherry on the cray-cray sundae.

    • ze moo

      Looks like Perez cut and pasted most of his ‘article’ from the Bunker.

      • Mr. Fabulous

        Yes indeedy. Upside is that he does get a LOT of traffic, so hopefully a lot more people will see the shit that the cult (and Kirstie) get up to.

        • Otto T Mariedahl

          Indeed, Peraz is string shit up and getting the word out about Scientology.

          If he is a thieving git is secondary at this point.

  • Sidney18511

    I never thought that they would go THIS far overboard with a celebrity of Leah’s stature. Kirstie reminds me of a high school bully who is in charge of the popular group. After Leah gets over the shock of of what’s happening with her “friends” I hope she speaks out, and does so loudly. She could use a little Jason (show me a mo-fo clear) right about now

  • richelieu jr

    Scilons selling vitamins online?

    Yup. Makes sense.

    • Captain Howdy

      I think they use car trunk tech and overcoat tech also.

      • shasha40

        You and sub are killing me here ! Roflmao !

      • richelieu jr

        Homeopathic Remedies: Most powerful ever!– guaranteed! NO measurable active ingrediants! Most powerful batch ever!

        • FistOfXenu

          Para$citology went past homepathy. They empower the water with nanoBTs. NanoBT Dreck(TM) is the future of supplements in the cult. All the woo woo of homeopathy plus all the profit of bottling plain water and sticking a fancy label on it plus all the added extra profit of making Para$cys need extra auditing to get rid of even more BTs.

    • 1subgenius

      Good deals on bulk niacin. 50 gallon drums on sale this week.

  • mook

    we have another confirmed attendee at Kirstie’s get-together: Michelle Stafford (who was recently fired from Y&R after 16 years. wonder why (lol)…)
    http://www.forum.exscn.net/showthread.php?32357-Michelle-Stafford-quits-The-Young-amp-The-Restless-quot-after-16-years

    I’m also hearing rumors that Kelly Preston was indeed at this meeting as well (JT is overseas with the kids… hmmm) as well as Nancy Cartwright. wouldn’t be surprised if several D-listers were there like Jim Meskimen, Persia White, Jennifer Aspen and Noelle North.

    • 1subgenius

      I’m guessing the Masturbatesons were there wearing momjeans.

      • mook

        didn’t somebody on here reveal that Danny Masterson just goes to the cult events for a paycheck and then leaves? in the words of Arte Johnson from Laugh-In, very interesting but stupid.

      • Captain Howdy

        Bijou Masturbateson..I like the sound of that.

    • Peter

      Noelle North? Good Gawd, is *she* still around. I knew her way back when she was just getting started in th biz.

      • Gus_Cox

        I guess so. And she seems pretty much finished in the biz. Gawd, I had to deal with her at an event once – she’s a real pain in the ass. Anyway, she’s one of those “Scientology Celebrities,” i.e. she’s only a celebrity amongst Scientologists. Nobody outside has any idea who the hell she is. Because her last major role was the voice of a bird in Home Improvement… 20 years ago.

        Oh, wait, she did have a starring role in a home movie recently, outside a Subway sandwich store, making a little girl cry…

        • Peter

          Omigawd, that is funny! I wonder if she put it on her list of credits? Actually, she was pretty much only a cherch “celebrity” even back then.

  • George Layton

    I sure wish I had a {church} I could vicariously live my life through. I have a couple friends coming to visit for the weekend but as a never-in how am I ever going to know if they are still my friends?

    • 1subgenius

      “You will pay to know what you really think.”
      (J.R. “Bob” Dobbs)

  • Ruby

    Someone posted this over at Rinders…I’m not sure where it came from:

    Kirstie Alley ‏@kirstiealley 9h

    lying news outlets. I do NOT care what religion ANYONE is or isn’t. I respect religions & would fight for your freedom as well as mine.

    • Aslansown

      It’s still there, along with “thank U lying “news” outlets for thinking I have ESP & write tweets “BEFORE” events OCCUR.I accept that compliment. Ur “sources” don’t exist” and someone replied to this tweet with “But you tweeted on Wednesday after the initial reports on Monday, no?

      • Imelda Marcos

        She’s filled with vitriol. It explains a lot. Her perma-smirk, for one.

        • FistOfXenu

          “Perma-smirk”. Thanks Imelda. For yrs now I’ve wanted a way to describe that look her face is set in.

          Perma-smirk(TM). You too can show people that you know – you just KNOW – that you’re the only 1 that can help. Just part of the Superior Smug Sneer Dreck(TM) you too can learn as you go up the Bridge To Nowhere(TM).

          • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

            Comes with a free charisma-ectomy.

            • FistOfXenu

              Free? Criminal out-exchange! Report to Ethics!

            • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

              Well, you have to buy the whole package to get the “free” thing.

              Are Scientologists ever allowed to hold sales? Act now and we’ll make you think you have 10,000 body thetans at the price of 9,000?

          • Imelda Marcos

            It’s really revolting and angry, her face. I guess she thinks it’s sexy.

      • Otto T Mariedahl

        I really don’t get what she is trying to say with that tweet.

        • Imelda Marcos

          She’s so hateful and angry, she can’t even speak sensibly since this incident started.

          • FistOfXenu

            We don’t understand because she’s tweeting with her Sooper Intelligent Sooper Communication Skilz Drech(TM) available only from Para$citology. We’re just wogs so to us it makes no sense. Or maybe it’s just because she’s talking shit.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Ah, you made me laugh…

        • Lark Smith

          1. Possible meaning ” I like feeling powerful by saying mean and hateful to others, but I really HATE being called on my behavior- you SP bastards”. Though I could be wrong.

        • Lark Smith

          Another translation could be ” I am truly in need of help. I have taken too much niacin and been in the sauna for 3 days. Dehydration impedes my ability to think, speak, and tweet. Oh, look at the pretty jellyfish.” just a thought

        • Observer

          It’s that superior LRH comm “tech” in action.

    • shasha40

      Then why’s she mad at Leah , Enquiring minds want to know . She’s so full of it !

    • Minion Gayle

      I just asked her “Where’s Shelly?” Not gonna hold my breath on a reply.

    • Lark Smith

      Snicker…Religious freedom: as long as she can feel superior and abuse members and former members of her cult in peace- right. My goodness that girl ain’t right in the head. I really believe she needs professional help.

    • nottrue

      she would have fought for jimmy jones and passed out the koolaid

      • Lark Smith

        with a smile and laced with poison syrup

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Correction:

        “She would have fought for Jimmy Johns.” I’m hungry and those are some gooood hoagies.

    • FistOfXenu

      Excuse me while I puke. So now people that quote her actual words are lying? How does that even work? Even her cult cooked brain must see how idiotic that is. Next thing you know she’ll say that other celebs have to disconnect from Leah and then say there’s no such thing as disconn- hang on

    • Observer

      “I would fight for your freedom as well as mine, but not Leah Remini’s.”

  • Andrew Robertson

    Ron had quite a lot to say about communication. Here are a few examples:

    . Communication is the universal solvent.

    . Grade 0 gives you the ability to communicate with anyone on any subject.

    . You have the “inalienable right” to communicate your own ideas and opinions.

    . When in doubt, communicate.

    . A person is as sane and happy as he can communicate.

    So why Scientologists in good standing find it so difficult to communicate?

    http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3769/9298719583_f878efe72d_o.jpg

    Andrew

    • FistOfXenu

      “A person is as sane and happy as he can communicate”

      Thanks Andrew. Now we know why the whole crew are bat shit crazy miserable bastards from LRH and DM right on down.

      If you have a link or reference for that I’d like it.

      • Andrew Robertson

        Search as I might, the source of that particular quote eludes me though it was previously indexed on Google which is where I copied it from.

        When I can find the my CD from Amsterdam, which is a veritable cornucopia
        of Ron’s wise utterances I’ll look through that.

        Andrew

        • FistOfXenu

          thanks Andrew.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Miscavige’s coordinated attacks on Remini and her family might work if Miscavige actually had any real power in Hollywood. Has he ruined any career of any celebrity that has left, including those that have publicly attacked the church? To the so-called “wog” world, it looks like Remini chose Catholicism over Scientology, and she did so partly because the CoS was corrupt, and she was abused by it. The barrage of disconnects against her, which will be reported by the celebrity-chasing media, will only confirm to the public that this church is corrupt.

    Remini has been in Hollywood for many years, she has many friends outside of the church, and she has a lot more power in that city than most of her so-called CoS “friends.” I hope she realizes that her popularity will soar when people see what these former “friends” and “church” are trying to do to her and her family. Who knows, perhaps some political leaders or leaders of other churches will finally speak out against a church that has so little respect for the U.S. Constitution that it strips its members of freedom of religion, freedom of association, and freedom of thought.

  • ranchster

    Newbie here (although i’ve been reading Tony since VV), so forgive my hijacking the thread but I have a question, not entirely linked to this story

    Jennifer Lopez seems to have quite strong connections to Scientology – her name pops up a LOT around other more famous Sci’s (her father is involved as well – I think – could be wrong?). Is she one of them too, that’s just not ‘official’ kinda like the Smith’s, and if not, is her father allowed to ‘connect’ with her if she isn’t?

    • Sherbet

      Good questions, ranchster. Lopez is probably like the Smiths; she has respect for the “religion” and for her father’s beliefs but has never called herself a scientologist. As for disconnection, there seems to be no hard and fast rule about it when it involves celebrities. I think today’s celebs (a la TC and Suri) do pretty much what they want, as long as they keep the money rolling into the church and they don’t rock the boat.

      • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

        I don’t know where Lopez is in regard to the cult. But the Smiths are deep, deep in. They won’t admit it because the word is poison nowadays, but everything they do screams it.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Welcome. Good time to join in the conversation.

    • Robert Eckert

      It may be that she refrains from saying anything at all for precisely that reason.

  • AnyOldName1

    A lot of the mainstream & gossip media is picking up that Leah Remini asked about David Miscavige’s wife. From what the exes say, she was no angel, but Shelley Miscavige’s disappearance seems to be the kind of scandal the media might run with. Just thinking, maybe keep that out there in comment sections and on twitter? #WhereisShelley could start trending.

    (Does the wife of the leader of Scientology spell her name Shelley Miscavige or Shelly Miscavige?)

  • TheWidowDenk

    “Our sources tell us that four years ago, Leah Remini provided seed money for a startup vitamin business owned by Pagán, the actor Michael Wiseman, and Stephen Price, a chiropractor whose clients include Scientology leader David Miscavige.”

    When Dr Denk fell ill in early 2004, he told Dr Price, his partner in the Shaw Health Center building, to sell the building. It took Dr Price until 2008 to eventually buy out my share of the building. From my experience, things do not move quickly with Dr Price, probably because he is “a chiropractor whose clients include Scientology leader David Miscavige.”

    It will be interesting to see how this new vitamin venture business turns out in light of recent events.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Disconnection may be ordered against families and friends, but when Miscavige orders business people to break contracts, lawsuits happen. Same result if doctors disconnect from patients. Haven’t they learned anything?

      • TheWidowDenk

        Right! Fortunately I knew what I was up against and hired an attorney right from the start. The attorney wasn’t for lawsuit purposes but to protect the interests of myself and my (deceased) husband. The attorney couldn’t speed up the Price process but provided a nice legal cushion for me and my affairs.

        • Robert Eckert

          Good for you.

      • Vistaril

        Not often. L Ron Hubbard Scientology Ethics Tech dictates that all differences, including business contract disputes, be sorted out within the cult. Fortunately, in this situation, it would appear that some of the potential protagonists are nearing the end of their tolerance for Scientology’s teachings in this regard. Oddly enough, if things do get to the court stage, and I hope they do, it may well assist those still slurping the Kool Aid because the litigation could well expose them to a wider range information about the functioning of Scientology. Fingers crossed.

        • TheWidowDenk

          Vistaril — Quite correct that one walks on a very fine line when leaving. It’s a good idea to have one’s sights on what one hopes to achieve and have the ducks all lined up in that direction. There are quite a number of resources (ducks) to assist one but it really helps if the person is well aware of the ramifications – first and foremost – and anticipates their resolution.

          • TheWidowDenk

            Vistaril — I should add this: Anticipating getting tied into WISE “arbitration” or any sort of organizational “handlings”, such as Flag where I was on lines, was deflected by having an attorney. No one was going to get me involved in that sort of thing because I was extremely well represented by an attorney and, thus, the law.

            • Casabeca

              It is great to hear about how you prevailed!

          • Vistaril

            Very good point, and well done, you. As someone has already mentioned here, Leah appears to be going about her leaving process in exemplary fashion, particularly with regard to ensuring she has her family with her. One can’t help but wonder if her and her family’s business interests have already been considered as well. I hope so. Perhaps she took a look at they way Katie managed her exit. But, you know, while Katie’s story certainly made a huge splash, it didn’t really last much more than, what, a month or so? With Leah’s exit, I’m getting the feeling this story is beginning to develop some sturdier legs. Like I keep saying, fingers crossed.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Nice to hear from you.

      Do you believe Dr. Price will, eventually, disconnect the business side?

      • TheWidowDenk

        Interesting question DDD. I’m not an attorney — which is why I hired one — but I would think the whole investment by Leah would be in question due to her leaving. Left up to those involved in the vitamin business, under the auspices of WISE or other organizational folks (Celebrity Centre, etc.), she could possibly lose her investment. A good attorney, however, would see the irrationality/illegality of that, and back her up/protect her interests. From experience, under Dr Price’s direction, the matter would not resolve for at least four years.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Thank you.

  • Aslansown

    As a “never in” I have a question…if her family is still in but is staying connected to her, what will happen to them?

    • shasha40

      Seems they’re willing to go the Squirrel route, as it’s the management she takes issue with. It says in this article that her Grandpa is getting squirrel tech. Maybe they realize family’s more important than Scientology .

  • V4Vacation

    Sorry if it’s been linked already, but the double agents at CC Int have a juicy new post up: Cruise says “Get Your Fucking House in Order.” Lol. http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/

    • Sherbet

      From a journalistic point of view, how accurate is that site? Anybody know? Tony?

      • V4Vacation

        The only “verification” that I’ve seen is other ex-members and secret still-ins have said on this thread and others that it is authentic. It’s not professional journalism, it’s just a personal blog apparently run by several people. But it seems believable thus far.

        • Sherbet

          OK, thanks V4V. Some gossip sites are so far out there to be believable, so I didn’t know how much confidence to place in the CC blog.

          • Robert Eckert

            Apparently we can believe that the rumors reported on that site are genuine rumors which are really floating around inside the Celebrity Center. Some percentage of those rumors is bound to be true, we just can’t know which.

          • V4Vacation

            As with many things, I read it with an objective grain of salt. People report their subjective experiences, colored by their own personal perceptions. It’s an entertaining blog though. But not to be compared with the likes of Lawrence Wright, lol.

            • Sherbet

              I know the site is a specialized one, but it’s still gossip. And there are gossip site links that people post here where the stories are so bogus and inflammatory that we know they’re full of baloney. Still, the CC one is interesting, and I was hoping its rumors were based on accuracy.

            • V4Vacation

              Me too! :)

          • 1subgenius

            Lots of names, faces, places and dates.
            Truthy enough.
            I don’t particularly believe everything I read anywhere.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Yeah, it’s not like they are smart and throwing out red herrings, false clues, and keeping the “management” guessing. So yes, I wouldn’t suggest believing Everything. Just soak up the flavor of what is happening inside the Miscavige Hospital for the Insane.

            • 1subgenius

              Got the reference, but its even juicier:

              Miscavige Hospital for the Criminally Insane.

              (This still was one of the greatest zingers of all time. Kudos to the writers of General Hospital)

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              thank you, I knew I was leaving something out.

            • Sherbet

              “Truthy” is an excellent adjective, 1sub.

            • Captain Howdy

              I’m from Missouri.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        A ten foot pole is good accessory when reading this site. Just my personal opinion.

        • Sherbet

          Spoilsport.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            But I didn’t say it ain’t true!

            • Sherbet

              Hand me one o’ them huge grains of salt, will ya?

            • Robert Eckert

              Do you need to grind your axe?

            • Sherbet

              Does my axe look big in this skirt?

            • Robert Eckert
            • Sherbet

              Oh, gosh, funny commercial, Rob-E.

  • Sidney18511

    The fallout from Leah leaving has caused some publics to ask for refunds and those that are asking staff about her are being threatened with instant declares.
    http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/

    • Sidney18511

      Mike rinder blocked a post of mine regarding http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/.

      • Spackle Motion

        Be weary of what you read on that site. It may be delicious but don’t believe all that you read there.

        The more I read that site, the more it raises questions as to its veracity.

  • 0tessa

    In Scientology Inc no matter how rich and famous you are, one day you will hit a brick wall: Miscavige. Then you’ll find out what it is all about.

    • MissCandle

      A tiny brick wall.

  • AnonymousSP

    Those crazy $cibot celebrities and their staff just don’t know the internet or how everything is always available to all. Dontcha love watching them scramble to remove and edit info? They need more tech and tools to help them deal with all this.

  • ze moo

    “Formerly known as All You Need is Kill, the movie due in theaters June 6, 2014 — is now titled Edge of Tomorrow. Cruise stars as a futuristic soldier who gets caught in a time loop and
    has to fight the same battle against alien invaders and die over and
    over again.”

    Sounds like the ‘golden shower of tech 2′ And ‘Ground Hog Day’.

    • V4Vacation

      Lol that plot does sound like having to do Basics over and over again, or endless auditing and sec-checking, moving around and around the Bridge but never up it.

    • Sherbet

      I think TC is stuck in an electronic career incident. Change it up, TC, for cryin’ out loud.

    • Mark

      Do you think this would do as a poster for it?

      • Captain Howdy

        Here’s the soundtrack.

        http://youtu.be/X2eB9m9js8c

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        It’s Kirstie’s poison syrup!

        • Mark

          And here’s Kirstie:

          • GlibWog

            OMG Krusty Ate her Lemurs!

            • FistOfXenu

              She ran out of cupcakes and donuts.

          • N. Graham

            What kind of animal is this? A gopher? Whatever, it’s kind of cruel (to the animal) to be comparing it to Kirstie.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And a soupcon of Source Code.

    • FistOfXenu

      Isn’t that just like the cult? Take Ground Hog Day, a story about a self centered ass hole that keeps going through the same day over and over til he learns to stop being an ass hole, and turn it backwards? Para$citology is the story of people repeating the same training over and over again and dying more and more each time. “Golden Shower of Drech 2″.

      Watch for the sequel, “Golden Shower of Drech 3: because DM says he’s still not rich enough”, coming soon to mOrgues near you.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    It is sad that scientologists are not even allowed to wish Leah well in her new life as a defrocked apostate.

    • Robert Eckert

      Well, she certainly won’t be a “bitter” defrocked apostate. More like a saucy defrocked apostate, I expect.

      • Bella Legosi

        A saucy, sassy, sexy, defrocked apostate!
        ;)

        • MissCandle

          That’s the best kind!

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            It’s fun to defrock each other. Then we can do the ‘frocking’ with “sauce”!

            • Sherbet

              You just plunged this blog from a PG rating into an R, possibly X. Not that that’s a bad thing, MLT.

            • Sherbet

              You just plunged this blog from a PG rating into an R, possibly X. Not that that’s a bad thing, MLT.

    • Sherbet

      Why would you wish someone well when you believe she’s ruining her eternity, her well-being, her planet, etc., etc.?

      • Bella Legosi

        Well, speaking hypothetically, if $cientology were really a religion that cared genuinely about humanity and those with-in the “churh” you would wish a person well in whatever endevor they went on. That’s just being respectful, polite, and human.
        :)
        Just saying………I understand ya Michael

        • Sherbet

          Bella, you are correct. But this is cos, we’re talking about, and, dammit, that apostate is ruining eternity for the entire planet, so she deserves the heaps of vitriol being sent her way. Signed, The Most Ethical People on the Planet.

  • http://twitter.com/Scientology_411 Scientology_411

    This really sickens me. Destroying friendships and families for the sake of preserving cult groupthink and protecting financial interests. The only saving grace is knowing this is just part of the final death spiral of this dying cult.

  • V4Vacation

    I miss Kate Bornstein. I know she’s using all her energy in her Cancer recovery (yay), but I wish we could get her take on this latest tsunami combo of Remini + Narconon + Garcias. ;)

    • Robert Eckert

      She was the “salty” defrocked apostate.

      • MissCandle

        Who wrote a great book, btw. All the best to you Kate — if you’re reading here.

      • Spackle Motion

        She also wanted to lick John P’s brain. I miss her excellent comments that caused a few guffaws on my end.

        • V4Vacation

          Rofl! Thanks for the reminder of that hilarious comment.

  • Bella Legosi

    Jeebus! Guys…….370 comments? It’s only 9am on the west coast!
    :D

    • Lady Schadenfreude

      I know! I’m trying to figure out whether it’s better to start getting up at 4 a.m., or staying up until 4 a.m., just so I can keep up!

      • Captain Howdy

        Just sayin’..

      • FistOfXenu

        Yup. I’m an early riser but I still can’t keep up and have a life at the same time, and now that DisQonnectus keeps DisQonnecting me, well, I’ll be checking out soon. And now that the Twinkies are on the shelf I’m out of excuses to stay much longer.

    • Captain Howdy

      The world loves it’s celebutards.

    • shasha40

      We’re working on our stats , Thursday’s right around the corner ! We’re tired of beans and rice !

      • Bella Legosi

        As you should be! Beans and rice is what slaves are fed!
        We in the ARC are better then most cults! We serve delicous soul food, tacos, and homemade Italian spaghetti and meatballs (made by yours truly)!!!

        • MissCandle

          Our dinner tonight: steak and lobster. Eat your hearts out S-Lying-Tologists.
          And about your dead bird. Sorry.
          My wiener dog hunts, kills, and eats crabs on the beach.
          Then she kisses me all over the face.
          Do cats do that?

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Kiss you all over the face?

            You’ve never had a cat, have you?

            • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

              I’ve had cats who kiss a lot. I have one now, in fact. (I had two, but the older recently died of stomach cancer.)

            • BuryTheNuts2

              Awww, sorry. I had a kisser kitty kat too!

            • Robert Eckert

              I brought my Charlie Boy home a lot younger than was planned– a couple weeks after having her litter, the mama cat got out and disappeared, so I had to take the kitty. He would wrap his arms around my neck and suckle my earlobe, kept doing that when he was full grown.

            • Robert Eckert

              I brought my Charlie Boy home a lot younger than was planned– a couple weeks after having her litter, the mama cat got out and disappeared, so I had to take the kitty. He would wrap his arms around my neck and suckle my earlobe, kept doing that when he was full grown.

            • Captain Howdy

              Sorry for your loss.

            • MissCandle

              Uh no, that’s why I asked. And that’s why I like dogs. As my cousin explained, If you lock your spouse and your dog in the trunk of your car for an hour, which one is going to lovingly lick your face when you finally open the trunk?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              If you lock the cat in there, the cat will emerge sleek and well fed.

        • shasha40

          Go ahead, rub it in you meanies. I am trying to Clear the Universe, (and room ), 1 bean at a time for the greater good !

        • Peter

          That’s funny. My lady was in the SO on the Apollo and LOVED rice and beans. A bit boring as long term food but she tends to make the best of just about everything. At least R&B is good protein. LOL

      • Sidney18511

        Strait up and verticle!

        • shasha40

          Totally ! Thank you Tony and all the great posters here ! Hip Hip Hooray !

  • youbelieveitinyourhead

    I don’t understand how she & her husband are “stunned” – even if they have never been ordered to stop communicating with someone, were they totally clueless that this is policy?

    • Missionary Kid

      The reality is so much more overwhelming than the theoretical.
      When you deal with people fairly often, you don’t think of them as $cions, but people. When the $cions finally disconnect, you’ve forgotten about their link to $cientology, and, all of a sudden, you’re faced with reality, it’s a shock..

    • nottrue

      shes a ot5. she must have known this was coming. why is she acting so shocked

  • Bella Legosi

    I must be PMSing…….my Uncle’s black cat just brought me a still living, baby sparrow, that is screaming……and all I can do is cry (I am not bawling, just sad like wathing “My Girl” for the first time) and let him kill it! If it were a Blue Jay this cat would get a reward, but its a tiny sparrow. I hate hearing death screams! This is going to bring me down all day! Went to “rescue it” but the poor thing is done for!
    Sorry for the derail folks. Not everyday I get live “presents” from this kitty and now have to deal with the mess!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Oh.

      Oh, oh.

      I know how you feel.

    • Sherbet

      Sorry, Bella! Chalk it up to a sometimes cruel Mother Nature.

      • Bella Legosi

        On the bright side it still shows to myself and you guys (since I posted it) that I still have that feeling called empathy!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Empathy for a tiny, defenseless baby bird…

          Well, it’s a start, anyway.

        • MO Mom

          And empathy for you of ew ew ew sort. Had a mouse once get into the house once. All 5 of my cats at the time went after it. I left the room.

      • Captain Howdy

        Nature isn’t cruel. That’s a subjective stupid human concept. Nature simply “is”.

        • http://lliira.dreamwidth.org/ Lliira

          Human concepts are the only things we are able to use, as we are humans. We are not above or apart from nature, either — all our concepts are entirely natural ones.

        • Sherbet

          I know, Howdy, I know. Things that happen naturally can affect our lives cruelly. Is that any better?

          • FistOfXenu

            How about “we’re the part of Nature that can learn to care about the rest of Nature”
            Better?

            • Sherbet

              How about dope-slapping Howdy until he quits picking on my post? Better?

            • FistOfXenu

              Sorry Sherb. I meant to click the reply button under Howdy. Pffffff! Pow!

            • Sherbet

              Thought so.

    • V4Vacation

      :( Hakuna Matata

      • Bella Legosi

        Sometimes the “Circle of Life” isn’t a Disney song.
        K…..gonna go dig a little hole, preside over a sparrow funeral, and then go see a man about a horse and a pack of smokes!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          The cat left something to bury?

          Ours wouldn’t.

          • Bella Legosi

            Yeah, the body is emptied and the head is gone. There is a mess of feathers and a husk!

            • shasha40

              It left you Kirstie Alley ! Damn, need new hearing aides, carry on.

          • 1subgenius

            I saw mine in the backyard gnawing on something.
            I went and looked, and the only thing left of the squirrel was its tail.
            But on another occasion he came in the cat door with a rabbit in its mouth, still alive.
            I broke my foot leaping up to catch one of them or the other.
            trufax

            • V4Vacation

              That must be a big cat!

            • 1subgenius

              Not unusually so. Normal tabby.

            • Sidney18511

              My cat has brought live RATS into our house so she can eat them at her leisure. So glad she keeps them in her mouth until I chase her out with a broom.

            • Jon Hendry

              Once I looked out the window and spotted my cat with a mouthful of live chipmunk. I ran to the back porch just as the cat was coming up the stairs with it. The cat dropped the chipmunk, which had a chance to get away, mostly okay, but with the fur and skin stripped off of its tail.

              Another time the cat brought a live chipmunk into the house, and it got away. It managed to hide in the house for a few days, and then bolted out the door when it had a chance.

        • Robert Eckert

          From Beard’s Advanced French for Exceptional Cats: “Voici une souris, presque completement mort. Ou` voulez-vous que je mette c,a? Dans le bureau, ou sous la chaise?”

        • V4Vacation

          I know. :( It’s sad, but it is natural. I also have a killer cat, and rescue birds (and mice) a lot.

    • Xique

      I feel ya :(

    • the wrong cranberry

      Oh, that sucks, Bella. Have some hugs if you want ‘em! *hugs*

    • Sidney18511

      Bela…so sad, isn’t it? My cat is going for the worlds record when it comes to catching critters. She not only catches them she EATS them. All that remains is a long rat tail and bird feathers. And then she has the nerve to try and snuggle with me at night with her rat breath and feathers in her teeth. Sweet and cute but deadly. If she was human, she would be a serial killer.

    • Jon Hendry

      If you’re in the US, English sparrows are an invasive species introduced from Europe. They’ve been crowding out native bird species, and will aggressively attack bluebird nests (including eggs) in order to take them over.

      Frankly, I’d rather save a Blue Jay.

      • Bella Legosi

        I didn’t know that about sparrows. Thank you for enlightenling me, it is much appreciated. However, I am an odd person who harbors this very weird hate towards the blue jay speices. I know it borders on insane to hate on a speific type of bird, but I really do hate them and find them to be shifty, mean, little birds who mess with my cats! lol I have expressed this veiw before on the Bunker, but that was a while ago….you may have not been privy to it!
        Now I am really sad abou the sparrow!

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          The scrub jays(which are a different species than the Blue Jay, but look the same) here in California HATE cats. I saw one of them perching on the wall of the front of the garage, it and a partner were in the midst of driving a cat away from their territory, chirping a hymn of hate to the feline at the same time.

          I always refer to the crows in the cemetery nearby as the Avian Mafia. Any red-tailed hawk or other daytime raptor comes by, they drive it away very quickly.

  • TheLurkingHorror

    Sad and pathetic. I hope you can hang tough, Leah, and show them you don’t need phony friends. Perhaps you can lead the way to show them how ludicrous forced disconnection is. Anyway, in the words of John Wayne,”Don’t let the bastards get you down.” Love him or hate him, I think that was good advice.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    At this stage of the game (and I am using that word deliberately!), what else does the Church of Scientology have? They’ve regressed and regressed. They used to actually be powerful and scary. They were like your dad’s boss– the one who could fire anybody and plunge the family into ruin. Then they were more like the parents, able to dish out discipline that really, really meant something. Now they are more like a pack of false friends who have about as much power as the mean girls in middle school.

    Next step: Cranky two-year-olds, wailing and demanding.

    End game: Babies, mewling and puking in the nursemaid’s arms.

    (With a nod to Shakespeare.)

    • MO Mom

      Well said!!

  • music8r

    I find it fascinating that Disconnection orders are flying about BEFORE a Suppressive Person declare has been made. Disconnection is one of two options in dealing with a Suppressive Person. The other is “handle” as in try to communicate with the SP in order to deal with their objections toward Scientology, or use “good roads, good weather” in communication to avoid bringing up sensitive topics of conversation, such as religion or politics. Disconnection is supposedly a last resort after other “handlings” (involving communication) have failed.
    I must have a Crashing Misunderstood. (Yawn….)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Tony’s headline is a bit misleading. The article clearly states that while there has been no Declare, and hence no formal Disconnect (which, of course, doesn’t actually exist), members may not be “In Comm” with Leah.

      Anyone with more insider experience care to expand/illuminate?

      • music8r

        Ah, true dat. Indeed, it is a very well orchestrated means of effecting the declare and disconnection without actually applying the policy – which, of course, does not exist. o.0

        This way the Co$ can publicly say they never issued an SP declare (aka, a goldenrod) and never ordered anyone to Disconnect (uppercase D). That way, Leah is still a parishioner and therefore, they respect the privacy of their parishioners. All said with good TRs (read: a straight face).

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Thank you.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Have you ever tried to be social or do business with someone you can’t communicate to?

    • FistOfXenu

      Like LRH DM doesn’t understand “handle”. He can’t even open his own doors.

  • Nevermore
  • Rex Crayola

    Well, we can “disconnect” from the comedienne and the interior designer as well!

  • Obnosis

    “Remini has not yet been “declared a Suppressive Person” — Scientology’s
    equivalent of excommunication — but she is considered “not in good
    standing,” and celebrities are told that they cannot communicate with
    her, and must also immediately defriend her and any of her family
    members on Facebook.”

    How fucking stupid. She is not declared an SP, but we’re treating her exactly like one. Back in the day, you were in Good Standing until you were officially Declared. Now you can be not in Good Standing without being Declared. Again, how fucking stupid.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Stupid Scientology rules are stupid.

    • Captain Howdy

      I get the impression that most of people left in CofS aren’t really all that familiar with Hubbard policy. I don’t think the celebs, or the sea org 3rd generation kids, or the slave labor from 3rd world countries spend much time studying the green volumes.

      All they know is what they’re told.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        exactamundo!

    • stateofcircle

      They might declare her verbally, but there is no way they are going to issue a goldenrod – the chances of her or someone leaking it are just too big. That seems to be the trend over the past few years from what I understand. Too many of them show up online (see: truthiwant above) and they look absolutely foolish, which is a pretty mighty feat considering. It would be sooooo amazing if the actually did though, I could definitely see Leah posting it somewhere and it would spread around the media like wildfire and get completely ripped apart.

      Hey, OSA – if it’s not in writing, it’s not true, so by the laws of your cherch she can still communicate with whoever she wants to. You should probably give Leah her Declare.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Well, somebody finally seems to have gotten to Kirstie. Here’s what she tweeted first thing this morning.

    (And anyone want to send her a suggestion or two? Hmmmm?)

    • ze moo

      Looks like Kristie is going to be scrubbing out dumpsters at the Celebrity Center.

      • Jgg2012

        or maybe Pouw will say she never was a celebrity.

      • CharlieWaters

        Nah. She’ll just have to cough up a good deal of revenue that supposedly she’s getting from her amazeballz sale of Organic Liaison and buy her way out of an ethics cycle.

    • V4Vacation

      awesome.

    • Lark Smith

      I think she may be referring to more than the Leah drama. She gave her opinion on the Trayvon Martin ruling stating something about all the white people killing all the black babies. Advice to Kirstie: STFU now – silence is golden, less is more, speak no evil. Duck the shit storm is coming.

      • Sidney18511

        Actually Lark I would prefer to see her keep digging the hole she’s been working on.

        • shasha40

          It is quite entertaining and she is an entertainer , in some circles… I think.

        • Lark Smith

          Sorry, you are right but it is like watching a train wreck. You don’t want to look, it’s going to horrible but I am fascinated and intrigued. I to see the entertainment value- that is kind of disturbing to me, but then I say fuck it and get the popcorn.

          • Robert Eckert

            On another board, in another context (the Prop 8 people arguing, seriously, that the ruling against them only legalizes same-sex marriage in Los Angeles and Alameda counties, not the rest of California), a poster wrote: “It’s like watching a drowning train wreck!”

            • Sherbet

              Ha! That must have been written by the {dimmest bulb in the drawer.}

            • Bella Legosi

              Thought you would get a kick out of this! It was tweeted to my *future* husband Misha after the Supreme Court ruling! F–k yeah!

    • pronoia

      Ruh Roh. Sounds like Kirstie is about to undergo some sort of ethics cycle.

      • shasha40

        Maybe ” thought modification” , then she can Wake the fuck up too !

    • TheWidowDenk

      Someone should take away Kirstie’s tweeter. Airy fairy! Sweetness and light!

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      She’s been told to ixnay the eahlay tackatay. Only ‘good roads, good weather’ from now on.

      • shasha40

        Doh, too late, Tiny d, we have these things called ” screen shots” ,memories and mass media ! Foot bullets can not be retracted. But you knew that…

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I would imagine that for Kirstie Alley, spending 24 hours being pleasant would be a major effort.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      So she is trolling for raw meat as part of her amends? Hell is too nice a retreat for Holes like her.

      • CharlieWaters

        That was exactly my impression when she was reaching out to under 25s. Kind of scary.

        • Robert Eckert

          Hey kids! You want some candy? I’ve got some right here in the back of my van…

    • Observer

      I can’t help wondering what she thinks are the good things she’s created.

      • stateofcircle

        …Look Who’s Talking was kinda funny…errr….? Nope, I’m out.

        • Observer

          Ugh, wild horses couldn’t have dragged me to that movie. And the e*trade babies creep me out.

          • stateofcircle

            I just remember liking it when I was a little kid. I would imagine it doesn’t hold up in 2013.

        • Bella Legosi

          Drop Dead Gorgeous is effing hilarious, even if “she” is in it. But that is the only movie I actually like her in and the only movie where I can forget that she runs with a religious Mafia!

          • Peter

            Religious Mafia. I like the sound of that one.

      • Captain Howdy

        I got nothing. I kind of remember thinking she was cute in Wrath of Khan, but looking back I’m wondering what was I thinking.

    • Bella Legosi

      I was struck by Kirsties initial “fuck em” tweet, then she back tracked, then actually tried defending herself! I was like really? Who is handleing her, cuz they are not doing a good job!
      Apparently “ethics” were put in on her over this. I hope this experience has given some credence to the “lies” she says is being spread through out the media.
      Also the tweet about not reading? WTF is that? I actually said, “Wow” when I read that one. Pretty reactive don’t you think? If I wasn’t blocked I would have tweeted, “Don’t read?! You mean I bought this copy of Dianetics for nothing? I’ll keep your advice in mind when I do read LRH. Thank you!” or something like that!

  • George Layton

    Is that a tattoo on her ankle or is that from the manacle she finally broke out of?

  • Truthiwant

    I thought some of you might be interested in this and also to show how the ‘Church’ treat
    anybody that says a word against them.

    I was rummaging through some old folders and I came across my Source of Trouble Declare.

    If you can’t read the document, here is what is written in the bottom part

    “d – Responsible for condition cases have been traced back to other causes for their condition
    too often to be acceptable. By responsible for condition is meant the person
    who insists a book or some auditor is “wholly responsible for the terrible
    condition I am in.” Such cases demand unusual favors, free auditing, tremendous
    effort on the part of the auditors. Review of these cases show that they were
    in the same or worse condition long before auditing, that they are using a
    planned campaign to obtain auditing for nothing, that they are not as bad off
    as they claim, and that their antagonism extends to anyone who seeks to help
    them, even their own families. Establish the rights of the matter and decide
    accordingly.” – LRH

    To me this sums up how bad this cult is.

    I was completely unhappy about the way things were going, and I can tell you , I had
    every right, because things were going SO badly, it was unbelievable.

    So what do the ‘Church’ do? They make YOU wrong by saying that the causes of your problems
    stem from other sources!

    This is the way that they wash their hands of ANYBODY that tries to criticize them.

    • Captain Howdy

      LoL The ole grifter thought that the marks were trying to run a reverse con on him!

      • Truthiwant

        If you read between the lines, infact, it’s almost a document of admission that anything the ‘Church’ do to you fucks you up!

    • stateofcircle

      The wording…my brain hurts. I had to re-read most of the sentences to understand what they were trying to say. Scientology’s command of the english language is just breathtaking.

      And thank you for sharing!

      • Truthiwant

        My brain stopped hurting a long time ago for that sort of thing!

  • Jgg2012

    The amazing thing is that they keep insisting they don’t have a disconnection policy.

  • dbloch7986

    Every time you write the name “Julian Schwartz” I shudder, Tony. It reminds me of my own “ethics cycle” back in the day.

    I wonder if any of these people that are disconnecting are suffering a moral dilemma at all? Would be interesting to watch it create a divide in the celebrity ranks. The soap opera of Scientology never ends.

    Thanks for keeping on top of things, Tony.

    I like how Julian has been in the Sea Org since before I was there in 2001 but he’s still in the same exact position he was when I left. He was the one that pulled my conversations from ESMB and showed my parents since my dad is an AOLA public.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Hey there!

      Did you see what Ms. Alley tweeted this morning? Think it actually means anything?

      She is also asking for suggestions from UNDER 25 year olds on what one thing they would change if they had the power to change it. I’m not under 25 but I could think of one thing I would change…

      • FistOfXenu

        Is that what they used to call being “down with the kids”?

      • dbloch7986

        You mean the one about the “white line” down the road? I think she’s stuck in a cocaine incident.

        She also mentioned making amends? Sounds like someone is in lower conditions…

    • stateofcircle

      Can you possibly tell us a little more about your experience with Julian Schwartz? I understand if you would rather not or it is too emotionally taxing. I’ve read your story of course, but, besides the fact that I’m just plain old nosey, I think it would help us (and hopefully new lurkers) learn even more about what exactly is happening behind the scenes as well as more details on the role and actions of and ethics officer, and the depths to which Scientology will sink to hurt a person. Again, totally cool if you would rather not, but a girl can ask :)

      • dbloch7986

        Julian is like a frat boy who was indoctrinated into Scientology. He tries to act cool, but he’s very condescending. His size makes him slightly intimidating. He’s akin to the “good cop” in an interrogation who pretends to be your friend so you will politely confess. However there is no justice in Scientology’s “justice” procedures. So it’s not like he’s doing a “good” thing.

        He’s a gentle giant, though. He never yelled at me. I could see the disgust in his face, but it was “polite”, if that makes any sense? I’ve seen hell rain down on him more than once from Stephanie Carry, who was the CO/Captain at AOLA when I was there.

        She has since been offloaded due to health issues (at least that was the story), because that’s how the Sea Org operates. Once you’re old and used up, they toss you out with the trash.

        • stateofcircle

          Thank you, Derek.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      it’s not easy, even in scientology, to get replacements for sociopaths posted in OSA or Ethics or Sales.

  • Alice Smith

    WE LOVE YOU LEAH!!!!!!! YOU ARE A HERO!!!!!!!!!!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Gotta step out for the day. Stay safe. Play nice. (These are NOT orders.) And…

    WHERE’S SHELLY???

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    Re: Kirstie’s “poison” tweet: I was talking to a friend and she mentioned that Kirstie’s tweet about “the sweetest poison is often served with a smile…beware syrup” seemed like a veiled threat to Leah Remini.

    I think that someone who is not inculcated to the rantings of Hubbard would very easily and properly take it that way. It sure sounds like a threat.

    On the other hand, having been a long time scientologist up until 2003, I immediately knew what Kirstie was alluding to: The dangerous behavior of those labeled covertly hostile by Hubbard.

    Kirstie was basically calling Leah a “covertly hostile” person who would stab you in the back while placating you with a sweet syrupy smile. Hubbard believed that homosexuals, and others, had this basically sneaky personality and that they would always be doing things to degrade others while appearing to be smiling and supportive friends.

    So by tweeting this, Kirstie was telling her scientologist friends and followers that Leah was being “1.1: covertly hostile” in scientology’s terms. It’s kinda the cult version of “fighting words” so they can draw the battle lines.

    Perhaps the sad and ironic thing about it is that it is Kirstie who comes across as the sneaky threatening covertly hostile agressive one, not Leah.

    When you pull the trigger you are supposed to look DOWN the barrel, Kirstie, not into it.

    • FistOfXenu

      “When you pull the trigger you are supposed to look DOWN the barrel, Kirstie, not into it”

      You thinking of the “suicides” in Para$itology where somebody shot themselves in strange circumstances? So maybe this how it happened?

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        The consequences of a misunderstood word are a bitch.

  • Marc Headley

    I love this part. Although it has its pros and cons, it can be quite revealing.

    This is the part where you find who your fake friends are. They are the ones that jump on the Krusty train with no hesitation and you never hear from ever again. When they see you down at the store on Ventura Blvd, they pretend that you don’t exist and roll their cart into the “shit they don’t even need” aisle.

    Then there are those you thought were your friends, but they lost their balls somewhere along the line and don’t get on the Krusty train but also don’t call or email cause they think that there are scilons living in their interweb connection.

    This is the point where you find out who your wild friends are. They’re the ones that jump right on the Krusty train and are very careful to find out exactly what Kirstie thinks about this whole scene, then they come over to your house right afterwards and debrief you on all the crazy shit that went down over a few glasses of wine and laugh about how crazy scilons are!

    Then there are the sad friends that have a child that goes to the same school as your kid. This is where they tell their kid not to talk to your kid even though they were best friends last week.

    Then there are the ones that you know are you real friends. These are the ones who couldn’t give two shits about the scilon stuff and like you for who you are and just want to see you succeed no matter what your personal beliefs are.

    This is also the part where you stop worrying about all the drama in your life that came from scilonville because it does not contribute to anything you stand for or care about in any way.

    This is the part where your bank account fills up faster because there is no longer a hole in the bottom of it that feeds into Dave Miscavige’s personal “Blow Smoke Up Tom Cruise’s Ass Project Fund.”

    This is the part when people you work with in Hollywood that are not scilons ask you about Tom Cruise and John Travolta being gay or not. Well, they “know” about Travolta but they want you to confirm it.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Her Christmas gift list will be much shorter this year, but that just means her true friends will get some awesome presents from Brooklyn’s Santa. And she will have Much more time for in depth shopping not needing to come in for sec checks every other week, so it’s all good!

      • N. Graham

        Getting back the rest of her mind will be the greatest Christmas gift of all. And Catholics DO celebrate Christmas!

    • Sam Domingo

      Wow! You mean all that shit happened to you too? ;) :D
      Perfect summation. This is exactly how it is.
      And your book is still my favorite by the way.

    • Sam Domingo

      Wow! You mean all that shit happened to you too? ;) :D
      Perfect summation. This is exactly how it is.
      And your book is still my favorite by the way.

    • aquaclara

      You just put it all out there on the table, Marc – no surprises. This is a huge gift to every about-to-be ex on what’s they will face, from the supermarket, to the kids’ friends and even to the trivial gossip, which is all many regular people know about the cult anyway.
      I see how you made it through the transition to the real world. Just wondering how you made it as a Scientologist! :)

    • dbloch7986

      I second this post. Being free of the drama is the best part of it all!

    • Bella Legosi

      Do I need to restart my Coast to Coast campaign to get you back on for a FULL 4 hour show? I have written Ian prolly 5 times already, and once to George (I know he wants nothing to do with Co$). You have such a wonderful dispostion considering what hell the cult has put you through and with the current “goddamn arma-fuckin-geddon” that Co$ is going through with its celebs, I think is it utterly unforgivable that a show like C2C doesn’t have you back on!
      My favorite part of your show was when dude called in to say everything you were saying was a lie and you asked if he even read the book (“Cuz you are in it!” That gave me serious LULZ). When Ian brought up the security fence and razor wire and dude said, “Well we have to have security, because we house expensive equipment that could be stolen.” Ian really schooled him by replying, “Who is going to scale a 6ft fence with razor wire, in the middle of the dessert? And why are the spikes facing IN if the purpose is to keep tresspassers OUT? And why would the “church” need survailence cameras pointing IN?” I am paraphraseing, but yes great points that I was estactic to hear Ian bring up!
      Keep on keeping on Marc and family! You prove that there is a life outside $cientology and that life outside the “church” can also be happy and HEALTHY! All my best to Claire and the little ones!

      • Marc Headley

        Thanks. I would love to do another show on C2C! Out of all the radio appearances I have done, those two shows went really well and we got a ton of great feedback from all over the US and abroad.

    • Casabeca

      Wow! In the middle of your book right now. You were so young to deal with all that! I guess the good news is you get to be young now outside of the cult. Your family is beautiful!

    • Robin Scott

      Then there are the ones who aren’t your friends yet, but soon will be, because you have so much in common on the outside!

      Love your stuff, Marc – great viewpoint, my friend, beautifully worded. Love to the family, Robin

  • Alice Smith

    Is this the same Michelle D. Workman arrested in Tennessee for drugs and vandalism? Looks a lot like the picture on her official site. Both of these women, if they are the same or not, look very mean and angry.

    http://www.bustedmugshots.com/tennessee/chattanooga/michelle-d-workman/86934701

    • Captain Howdy

      I don’t think it’s the same person. Check the moles for one thing.

      • Alice Smith

        Sorry about that, then. Michelle Workman, on her own site, looks a very angry and mean woman in her pics. This is very typical for an “OT” – a real obnoxious and pushy rager, trying to pretend to be happy.

  • Sidney18511
    • Observer

      The acceptable truth–when the true truth just isn’t acceptable!

      • stateofcircle

        ^^^THIS!^^^
        (and when my comment inevitably gets pushed down, I am pointing to Obs’s post. Genius!)

    • SandiCorrena

      According to her tweets she’s working on amends so…….lol!

    • April Walsh

      Even if these tweets weren’t about Leah (and I think they are), they sure are nasty or she wouldn’t be deleting. Thank goodness for screencaps or people wouldn’t be seeing what a mean girl Kirstie is.

      Meanwhile, Leah has kept it classy and only tweets positive things. Good for her. And I love that she’s taking advantage of new followers by tweeting about charities she supports. The proof is int he pudding, as they say. Even to an objective observer, you can tell who the good person and the hostile person is just from the tweets. :)

  • April Walsh

    I think Remini is appreciating the support and encouragement she’s getting outside of these people she called friends, so I think she’ll get through this fine. Saw these on her twitter…

  • pronoia

    I wonder how Kendra Wiseman is doing. She did a wonderful thing with the founding of ex-scientologykids.com – and had been posting for some time on xenu.net. And then she got married in China and fell off the edge of the world. Seeing that her father hasn’t seemed to have changed on iota and a photo of her brother made me think of her. I hope she is ok.

    • Sidney18511

      I believe that she is the one with family still in and had an agreement to keep her mouth shut and would be able to talk to her folks.

      • pronoia

        Oh – they are all still in. Look at them up there. My hope is that she is still out. They scrubbed her last name from ex-scientologykids.com.

        • Sidney18511

          I hope that she’s still out of the madhouse also. Anybody know?
          And I hope that Leah doesn’t get sucked back in.

          • stateofcircle

            Last I read she is still out, but she did make an agreement to stop talking about the cherch in order for her and her child(ren?) to have a relationship with her family. She is no longer a part of Ex-Scientology kids. I believe Jenna wrote something about it awhile back, I’ll try to find it.
            While is is certainly a loss for the critic community, I can’t fault her for wanting a relationship with her family and I am happy for her that she is able to have one. I imagine it must be difficult for her.

            • dbloch7986

              I never understood that. I’m not willing to sacrifice my integrity and sanity for the sake of talking to my family. But I guess everyone is different.

            • Missionary Kid

              Derek, when one has been treated as cruelly as you have, and whose family basically dislikes who you are, it’s understandable that you would want nothing to do with them. Having a a relationship with them is a low priority with you.

              Knowing that until you say that you’e not gay, which is a tremendous violation of who you are, that they are going to treat you like shit is a good reason not to ever talk to them.

              I’m willing to think that her relationship with her parents has more positive aspects.

    • Artoo45

      She’s great. What a fine writer and web designer she is, too. Her blog posts about life in china are wonderful. I think she’s done with Scientology drama. She did her time and helped make a difference with the exscientologykids website. I wish her all good things and don’t bring up the cult.

  • dbloch7986

    Kirstie Alley:

    “Don’t believe everything you read. Don’t believe anything you read. Don’t read.”

    That sounds like Scientology at work, alright. Most of those Scientologists will be lucky if their kids grow up literate, as sad as that is.

    • Sidney18511

      Derek….did you ever have any personal interaction with the Krust when you were in?

      • dbloch7986

        No personal interaction. Just the situation between her and my dad, which I heard about second hand but directly affected me. As you can imagine, it has me a bit jaded.

  • Sidney18511

    The latest from the “insiders” blog is that the CC is in a tizzy, a tremendous tizzy, a stupendous tizzy thanks to Leah. And also TC has some kind of bug up his ass.

    http://scientologycelebrity.wordpress.com/2013/07/16/tom-cruise-get-your-fucking-house-in-order-cc-int-courserooms-a-ghost-town/#comments

    • DMSTCC

      He’s not lookin’ real popular in the comments. LOTS of jabs at his {religion}

  • PurpleToothTech

    On the Wendy Williams Show today 7/16 Wendy talked about Leah and Kirsty. Here it is on You Tube at minute 4:53 http://youtu.be/UwU9Foh7zU8

    • SandiCorrena

      and it was GOOD!

      • DeElizabethan

        YES and thanks PurpleTooth,’twas great to hear!

        • PurpleToothTech

          I hope that Leah does write a book like Wendy suggested with all the details.

    • SandiCorrena

      To Kirstie “put down the ferret”! lol is that what they should be calling him these days????? There is a resemblance, no?????? hahahaha!

      • PurpleToothTech

        I guess I am not up to date on Kirstie’s love life because I thought that the ferret joke was about Kirstie’s lemurs that she keeps as pets. I’m sure that they are expensive and unique and to be called a ferret is like calling them rats.

  • Bella Legosi

    YAY!
    The man Bella saw about a horse, ended up coming in FIRST! Bella scored herself a sweet $11/hour job today! She starts day after tomorrow! So, you folks may not see her on as much, but she could never quit her “peeps” and will be on the evening shift!
    Happy happy happy dance!!!!!!!
    >D

    • BuryTheNuts2

      Great! good for you. Congrats!

    • CharlieWaters

      Congrats and good luck!

      With the way these posts have been coming in lately to the Bunker, looks like you’ll be busy once you get off work.

    • Observer

      Woo-hoo! Congratulations!

    • John P.

      We in Global Capitalism HQ wish to congratulate you. We also wish to remind you and everyone else that the increase is what matters, and the percentage is the number to pay attention to. When another hedge fund guy tells us over drinks that he is up on the market by $5 million so far this year, that is meaningless unless it’s expressed as a percentage — if he’s up $5 million on a $3 billion dollar fund (0.16%), he might as well tattoo “LOSER” on his forehead. If, on the other hand, he’s up $5 million on his personal account which started the year with $8 million in it (60%), we’ll definitely tip our hat.

      So if you’re up 10% or 20% on the gig you talked about recently which involved lots of driving around and slinging heavy things in the pre-dawn hours, you’re rockin’ it!

      By the way, if you’re West Coast and you’re working evenings, you can still jump on in the mornings, since Tony’s stuff comes up at 4:00am West Coast time. No excuses for disappearing for you!

      • dbloch7986

        I miss you John P!

        • John P.

          :-)

          Like a persistent case of athlete’s foot, I sometimes go away for a while. But then I come roaring back, harder to dislodge than ever.

          • dbloch7986

            You’re more like if athlete’s foot was a fungus that made your feet smell like roses and smooth as a baby’s bottom.

            • Observer

              Hahaha! Perfect metaphor!

          • monkeyknickers

            Hmmmmm . . . . . . I’ve had boyfriends like you, luv. :)

            Wait ! Wait wait! Are you the father of my children internet-disguised as a smart wall street mogul???

            THIS IS ALL MAKING SENSE NOW.

      • Bella Legosi

        Why thank you John! My offer to you being the BEST domestic helper is still on the table *wink wink*
        And anything is better then slinging newspapers! Yes, I am rocking it! If my schedule is set in stone I may be one of the “firsties” in the morning or jump on directly after work! I wouldn’t disappear on you guys! If I do then you will know “they” did grab Bella in the night and spirited her away! Know that I won’t go quietly! They will have to take me kicking, screaming, biteing, and spitting!

    • aquaclara

      Terrific news, Bella!!!! We know you’ll be here – this is a 24 hour a day bunker, you know!!!

      • Bella Legosi

        I am forever in debt to Tony and this blog for the education and communication with those who I would have never have heard of or talked to had I not discovered VV or the Bunker. I don’t think there is an appropriate sum I could donate to show my gratitude. But that won’t stop me from donating!
        If I ever win the lottery just know the Bunker, AGP, OCBMB, WWP, and ExScientologists, would get $1,000,000 donation! lol I do lead a rich fantasy life dont I? But, hey, I would ask John P. for his excellent financial advise to make even more! Then I could really begin my dream of creating Entheata Daily Express printing and hire Observer & media_lush and a slew of “wogs” and ex’s!

    • Captain Howdy

      Congratulations

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      So happy for you. WIN!

    • MissCandle

      Many many congrats. You deserve the good stuff coming your way. Stay in touch or we’ll come find you.

  • media_lush

    well, well, well … this is interesting – it popped up on my Disqus/Dasgboard page and I have never seen it before ….. hmmmm

    • DeElizabethan

      Wow, hmmmm is right!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Hmmmm, indeed!

  • monkeyknickers

    “Pagán and Remini, we’re told, are stunned that their friends in
    Scientology are marching in lockstep with the church’s orders to cut
    ties with them.”

    Um . . . . . Really? It can’t be too damn shocking.

    And also – just how would Pagan and Remini acted if it was, say, Elizabeth Moss doing the leaving and them that’s asked to close the blinds. Just thinking on it.

    • Shows LasVegas

      Yep, started to say this very thing and saw your comment. Frankly, I’m stunned that they’re stunned and just further illustrates the point that these people live in a vacuum. And great point…they’d be doing the same thing and no doubt have in the past.

    • L. Wrong Hubturd

      The cog dis is still strong with these two. But, I think they will recover quickly, since there’s at least enough common sense to keep the family together. Which may be the greatest thing Leah could ever do to combat these loonies.

  • Robert Eckert

    New post up!

  • Jefferson Hawkins

    The Church’s handling of Leah Remini’s exodus is a prime example of what Robert Jay Lifton refererred to as “thought-stopping.” In this insightful book Thought Reform and the Psychology of Totalism, he describes what he calls the “thought-terminating cliché”:

    “The most far-reaching and complex of human problems are compressed into brief, highly reductive, definitive-sounding phrases, easily memorized and easily expressed. These become the start and finish of any ideological analysis. In [Chinese Communist] thought reform, for instance, the phrase “bourgeois mentality” is used to encompass and critically dismiss ordinarily troublesome concerns like the quest for individual expression, the exploration of alternative ideas, and the search for perspective and balance in political judgments.”

    In his novel 1984, Orwell describes a society where an entire language has been developed, “Newspeak,” full of these thought-stopping phrases, which render the citizen “unable and unwilling to think too deeply on any subject whatever.”

    Scientology has an amazing store of thought-stopping phrases. All you have to do is tell a Scientologist that so-and-so is “not in good standing,” and they will automatically discount anything that person has said, erase it from their memory, and cease worrying about it. And they will of course stop communicating with that person.

    All you have to say is “that’s entheta” to stop a Scientologist from thinking along any particular line. They will instantly back off from that subject. They learn, as Orwell put it, “the faculty of stopping short, as though by instinct, at the threshold of any dangerous thought.”

    There have been some really choice thought-stopping phrases revealed in this story, from Tommy Davis’ “you don’t have the fucking rank to ask that question” to Kirstie’s “Don’t believe everything you read. Don’t believe anything you read. Don’t read,” to CC’s Pamela Johnson telling Bob Duggan to calm down and accept that he’s got no right to know anything.

    I think they are ramping up the thought-stopping as they begin to realize how hard it is to stop some thoughts from permeating their entire membership.

    • John P.

      I thought the treatment of Bob Duggan was the most interesting of all the examples you cited. If Duggan contributes $20 million per year, he’s probably accounting for 10% of the cult’s overall revenue lately, making him by far the cult’s largest “customer.” If any CEO of a normal business failed to take a call from his largest customer, the board either should or would fire him instantly. And if underlings treated the company’s biggest customer as just another member, they should get fired instantly as well.

      I wonder how long it will be before Duggan realizes he’s been scammed the same way any low-grade chiropractor has been scammed, and blows publicly. Given that he’s probably worth way north of a billion, he can afford the legal fees to pay his lawyers a nice up-front retainer to sue for a refund in a case that will make the Garcia case look like a cakewalk.

      • ze moo

        The ‘board of directors’ hold the COB and COO responsible for the running of the company. Davey has no one to hold him responsible for anything. Daveys approach works only until Duggan gets pissed off and walks away. Then Davey finds a scapegoat and launches a ‘mission’ to recover the whale. This isn’t 1984, Its Brazil……(great movie) more appropriate to CO$

    • DeElizabethan

      Gosh Jeff this is so true and hadn’t really given it thought like you have. Thanks very much, it makes so much more sense now.

      • Captain Howdy

        Read 1984, De. It was Hubbard’s “How To” manual. It’s all right there.

        • stateofcircle

          I posted this awhile ago. I am borderline-obsessed with the 1984/Scientology parallel. It is astonishing to me how Scientology is a virtual case study on Airstrip One and the Party. The Leah situation is the perfect example of Orwell’s concept of being ‘vaporized’ in 1984: a person simply not longer exists. They are not just gone; every single bit of information or evidence of their life and existence is erased from history. They never existed. Now that she is “not in good standing’ every single thing she has ever done never happened. Any videos or pictures or mentions of her in church materials are erased. Executives or staff cannot answer questions about her after this because she is no longer a person. Leah is Emmanuel Goldstein.

          (Below is my old post so it’s not about the Leah situation, but it’s easy to translate any situation in Scientology with these concepts, especially this one.)
          Freedom is Slavery.
          Ignorance is Stregnth.
          Altering the past, i.e. removing Marty’s name from the “War is over!” speech, Hubbard’s military, marriage and education records.
          All of the “Golden Age” garbage is straight out of the Ministry of Truth.
          Emmanuel Goldstein = ex members; “Two Minutes Hate”
          Being brought in and forced to confess evil thoughts, and if there are no evil thoughts are crimes, you will be manipulated into manufacturing them and eventually believing them.
          Telescreens = video/audio in auditing rooms, and even the slightest twitch can give you away.
          Spies/Junior League: SO staff that are assigned to a celebrity or whale in order to report every detail of their life, most importantly their opinion, actions and current relationship with Scientology, to Management.
          Victory Mansions = Any and all Sea Org berthing.
          Thoughtcrimes = Counterintention.
          Reporting Thoughtcrimes = Knowledge reports
          Redefining love and sex by taking taking the humanity out of it through calling it 2D (Newspeak), being forced to confess every sordid detail as if it were wrong, banning marriages and children in the SO.
          Obviously creating it’s own version of Newspeak that takes any emotional or intelligent meaning out of words and thought, such as TR’s, Comm, Backflash, Counterintention, Theta, 2D – hell, all of the Dynamics -, Ser Fac, etc.

          To me, the RPF and Truth Rundown is nearly identical to Winston’s treatment from O’Brien in the Ministry of Love, and the RPF eventually becomes Room 101.

          I could go on…and on and on and on, because these parallels kind of blow my mind, and I really want someone to write something about this, especially because I think it would really resonate with the rest of the world.

          • Casabeca

            It would be an awesome thesis paper in academia.

        • DeElizabethan

          Your right Capt. However, I read it so many years ago am only left with an idea. Jeff said it now and sounded so right at this time. When ya get as old and feeble as me reminding is Good. Now don’t have the time to read the book, but wouldn’t mind seeing the movie again. <3

        • Tory Christman

          The Art of War is OSA’s Manual, also, for the record. :) And man are they even screwing *that* up! LOL Way to go, $cientologists!!!

    • Tory Christman

      Jeffrey: 1984–A great book to remind people of *really* what $cientology is all about. Another is “The Art of War” which $cientology consistently screws up with their “Always attack, never defend”. That may work in war….for a religion it just shows how far these peeps really are from any kind of religion/spirituality. Their stopping of communication should be any members 1st and KEY reason why they should follow Hubbard’s own final PL: “The way OUT *is* the Nearest Door!” ((Hey, HE took it, why not YOU–to those still “in”) :)

    • ThetaBara

      Those *(&^%$^&* “anarchists” do it, too. And the Marxists. It’s absolutely infuriating trying to actually talk with one of them! But their schtick would never work if you actually thought about it for even a moment. So they can’t let that happen.

    • danlocke

      Kurt Vonnegut’s short story “Harrison Bergeron” comes also to mind. The story of the “U.S. Bureau of Equality” coming into being with all sorts of rules and regulations to make us “equal”: weights were placed upon the strong, the beautiful are masked and the more intelligent wear headphones that emit a terrific squawk whenever a new and valuable thought was forming….

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4-hEfqpxIg

      • Casabeca

        Now added to list…love KV and Orwell.

  • USA MRIID

    “Our inside church sources…”

    Tony! Oh noes! Look at what you have done! Now that insane Tone 1.1 Dwarf is going to order every remaining customer back to the cans to find out how many of them are talking with you and possibly other Suppressive Persons, how many Body Thetans they’re infested with, and what all of their crimes are!

    You just cost all 40,000 remaining Scientology customers world wide to have to shovel out even more money. You bastard!

    • http://valerierossonline.com/ Valerie Ross

      Um, I think you added an extra 0. I would honesty be gobsmacked if there were more than 4,000 Scientology customers not currently on staff somewhere. I do believe a gung ho Scientologist has become an endangered species in more ways than one.

    • DeElizabethan

      More like 25,000 and they will shovel one way or another, Tony’s the cat’s meow and love it!

  • scifibandit

    Just stop reading? Like the epsilons in Brave New World or the citizens of Fahrenheit 451?

  • Mat Pesch

    What is left of Scientology is held together by blackmail and information control. Read, say, think as one is told or you will loose your family, friends, etc. When you wake up and find your head in a lions mouth, you pull it out slowly and carefully. Scientologists are doing just that.

    • Ruby

      well said, Mat. That is a perfect description.

  • CommunicatorIC

    This probably has been posted already, but in case it hasn’t, Leah Remini’s big sister, Nicole, gave a radio interview. Nicole confirms the Church of Scientology instructed parishioners to disconnect for Leah. You can listen to the interview at:
    http://www.mytalk1071.com/gossip/?var=LISTEN_Leah_Reminis_Sister_Nicole_Talks_to_LoJ071513

    • DeElizabethan

      Thanks a bunch. Nice!

    • CommunicatorIC

      Advice from ESMB to get the full show: Go here: http://www.mytalk1071.com/shows/colleenbradley

      And listen to Tuesday Hour 3 On Demand – it’s at the top of the list of broadcasts. I”ll add that you can also right-click and download the mp3.

  • Tone

    In handling Leah Remini, $cientology is demonstrating all the defining characteristics of a cult, and appears doing so quite openly, if unconsciously. I cannot see how this is KSW but hey I’m declared so what do I know?

  • Sarah James

    I think kirstie alley should do a bit more reading. She needs to really examine scientology from its not so pretty beginnings. Why does she have to always bully? Why not give Leah some respect for taking a different path in life? Cults make me sick.

    • Tone

      Once you get that upper OT snarl you’re never the same.

  • Jim Gideon Cherkas

    Scientology orders disconnection and the Scientologists to obey no matter what I don’t know why they are stun to find out the Remini have been signed on just all their life meanwhile the church says there’s no forced disconnection lol yeah right

  • Spiderpope

    And so the Cult pressure begins…

  • Chef Xenu

    Tom Cruise had the disconnection loophole figured out long ago, most other Scientology celebrity families just haven’t caught on yet. You have to establish an anchor-clam. Once your anchor-clam is firmly and publicly established both in pop culture and the church, the rest of the family is protected. He can then proceed to route them out using a carefully constructed cover story, free of the fear of orders to disconnect. The only catch is he has to stay, but heck, action heroes have to sacrifice something don’t they? But in this sacrifice, who knows the opportunities one might find to rescue other starlets who might fall into the clutches of the church through an acting class or life improvement course recommended by a friend? Action heroes do need their sequels lest they fade away…

  • April Champion

    i dont understand why these “Celebrities” feel the need to PUBLICLY “disconnect” from a religion…you dont see EVERYDAY people saying “oh, im Catholic today, but i think i might wanna leave the church tomorrow” and then make a HUGE public statement about it…they just……LEAVE…for whatever reason….Other celebs im sure have left other religions and THEY dont make a huge stink about it…I really REALLY dont understand why people feel the need to “announce” that theyre leaving a certain “religion”

    • TonyOrtega

      You don’t seem to understand the concept of “disconnection” here. Leah Remini didn’t “announce” anything. We broke the news that she had left Scientology. She said nothing publicly about it, and actually still hasn’t. The church, however, then ordered its other members (including celebrities) to “disconnect” from Leah because she had left. That’s church policy.

      • April Champion

        but then, if she hasnt announced anything, why is she “worried about retaliation”? I dont understand anything about this whole scientology thing…What is it about *this* particular religion that makes it SOO “hush hush” amoungst its members? are they doing ilegal/harmful things that could/would get them into deep water with authorities??

        Im not trying to be a smart ass or anything, i just really dont understand.

        • TonyOrtega

          At the top of this page there’s a link to a recent documentary, “Scientologists at War.” You might watch that as a start.