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About that Scientology ad you saw on TV before and during the Super Bowl

Answers13We’re getting reports from around the country that Scientology’s “Age of Answers” ad has already been airing today on Super Sunday.

We figure it’s only going to pick up as the game itself nears. Earlier today, we weren’t certain which ad the church was going to use for its Sunday blitz, but then we received a leaked message from one of our tipsters indicating that it would be “Age of Answers,” a slick Apple Computer-like spot that Scientology posted to its YouTube channel in October, and that we described in November.

The ad is pretty and says essentially nothing, and we expect that when it appears at halftime during the Super Bowl, there’s going to be a fun reaction at Twitter. If you see the ad pop up in your market, let us know in the comments section.

So before we take a detailed look at the ad itself, let’s see what Scientology member Kathy Feshbach had to say about it in that leaked message we mentioned…

DEAR FLAG OTC MEMBERS,

The IAS funded Scientology – The Age of Answers video will play at half time during the Super Bowl!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The next day on Monday following the Super Bowl in USA TODAY – full-page ad – The Age of Answers – ensure you buy the paper!!!!

Also, on YOUTUBE โ€“ on Monday we will be on the front page for 24 hours straight!!!! People can watch The Age of Answers video, do OCA test or any of the on-line free courses!!!!!!

Thank you for all your donations to the IAS โ€“ keep them coming, we are changing the world together!!!!

Ml,
Kathy Feshbach

And here’s the ad itself in its 1-minute length, but you might see a 30-second version air during the game…

 

 
Let’s take a look at some of those images…

 
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And here’s the text of the ad…

 

(Voiceover) We live in an age of searching

To find solutions

To find ourselves

To find the truth

Now, imagine an age in which
The predictability of science
And the wisdom of religion
Combine

Welcome to the age of answers (End of voiceover)

(Titles) spiritual technology

scientology.org (End)

 
Hopefully some curious folks will find this website after seeing the ad, and we’d like to answer what might be some questions occurring to them.

1. Is this for real? Yes, Scientology has advertised on television for many years, and actually did quite well recruiting new people in the 1980s with its famous “volcano” series of ads designed by its then head of marketing, Jefferson Hawkins. Beginning three years ago, Scientology leader David Miscavige went on a new ad-buying binge as his organization has faced numerous crises.

2. Why does this look like an Apple ad? Scientology has a dwindling membership, but Miscavige is sitting on a ton of money. So he buys the best advertising from top firms, just like Apple does.

3. I see a lot of young people — is this ad looking for college-age recruits? Miscavige and other Scientologists may think this is an effective recruiting tool for bringing in college kids, but young people who actually see these ads tend to mock them in social media. In the age of the Internet, Scientology is having a terrible time recruiting new members. These ads are really aimed at Miscavige and his biggest donors, the small number of very wealthy people who are keeping the organization afloat. It’s important to them to see Miscavige making this effort.

4. How much did this cost Scientology? Although 30-second spots in the Super Bowl cost something like $3.8 million each this year, Scientology tends to buy local advertising spots in numerous markets and not national ads. That makes the cost a lot lower, but they are also showing this ad in many other spots, in prime time, and all over the web. So Scientology is definitely spending millions, even if it didn’t pay the big bucks for a single national Super Bowl spot.

5. What do they mean by combining science and religion? When L. Ron Hubbard first came up with Dianetics and then Scientology, he said it was an exact science that would help you recover memories of your time in the womb (Dianetics) and even from past lives, some of them millions or billions of years ago on other planets (Scientology). He also claimed that reliving those memories and neutralizing their power to harm would erase all psychosomatic ills, which he considered to be just about everything making people sick. When the government got upset about his health claims, however, Hubbard sought the protection that comes with calling yourself a religion, and in 1953 he began creating “churches” of Scientology. Most longtime members will tell you they were interested in the exact science, and put up with the “religion” cloaking because they knew it was necessary to keep the organization tax exempt.

Let us know your thoughts about the various parts of this ad, and let’s see a good game!

 
UPDATE: TheHoleDoesNotExist has reported that she did see at least a brief version of the other ad we were talking about this morning, which extols Scientology’s “social betterment” programs. There’s no reason why both of them might not be playing around the country today. Here’s another look at that ad. Let us know which one plays in your area, and when…

 

 
 
UPDATE: Right on time — at the beginning of halftime — the Age of Answers ad showed up in these markets… LA, SF, Sacto, Portland, Seattle, Las Vegas, Phoenix, Salt Lake City, Cincy, Denver, Minneapolis, Nashville, Austin, Dallas, Washington DC, and Tampa. Some reactions…

 

 
WHOA. George Washington University Dean of Student Affairs Peter Konwerski raised some eyebrows with his tweet celebrating L. Ron Hubbard as a product of the school. Actually, Hubbard dropped out in his sophomore year and never got a degree…

 


 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on February 1, 2015 at 17:40

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  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Please check under your chairs and underneath the couch for anyone missing. Those scientology ads might have snatched their brains and lured them into the orgs. Really effective.

    • DannyBoy

      Thank you, needed a chuckle ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Sandy

    9:10 pm Twins Cities ad

    • Sandy

      Boy – I was surprised. CuZ, we are a a small market

      • Eclipse-girl

        yes, but you you have Idle Morge

      • Todd Tomorrow

        But you have that huge building!

  • Sebastian L. Jackson

    I guess the only thing we can do now is a running commentary on The Blacklist.

  • stillgrace2

    The Age of Answers Ad just ran on NBC HD-KNTV 703 in San Jose, CA. Nothing during the game.

    • California

      San Jose is Silicon Valley….. possibly a source of gullible whales. Greater SF Bay Area to the south of SF.

      • stillgrace2

        No shit. I was born here.

        • California

          And it has really changed since then, I am sure.

        • Jimmy3

          It’s in California, which is a state.

          • California

            Truly.

        • Nat-lificent

          Hahahahahaha!

  • Tony Ortega

    Age of Answers just ran in Twin Cities. (Another ideal Org city)

    • California

      Anybody keeping track of how many Ideal Org cities in the U.S. and if the ad(s) ran in each of them?

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Tony.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      Chris said that was around 20 people when he helped make it ideal.

    • Sandy

      I didn”t see it. Sorrey

  • Captain Howdy

    FREAKINGEFFINGUNFUCKINGBELIEVABLE!

    Congratulations NFL Champion New England Patriots

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      {I don’t get the feeling you are really excited. Try a higher tone level.}

      • Sherbet

        Heck, I’m no football brainiac, but that was incredible to see.

        • Davka

          Yay!!!!!

          • Sherbet

            Yay back atcha, Davka! This almost makes tomorrow’s frickin’ snowstorm palatable.

            • Davka

              Seriously! Even had to watch the rest of the game on an iPad in the dark waiting for little Miss Davka to go to sleep. And what’s one more work from home day, really? ๐Ÿ™‚

              Yay!!!!

    • Sherbet

      Do you hear the fireworks?

      • Captain Howdy

        Yes!
        What an insane end to an insane season. If I didn’t know better I would think it was scripted.

        • Sherbet

          Don’t start that rumor. I can’t take anymore -gate conspiracies right now.

        • Jimmy3

          That might be the worst performance by any Super Bowl MVP ever. He played like ass most of the game.

          • Captain Howdy

            Malcolm Butler should have gotten MVP and if not him Julian Edelman.

            • Jimmy3

              Yes

            • Missionary Kid

              Butler was the victim of what would have been the catch of the game, then he made the most important catch himself.

        • Garrus Vakarian

          I’m starting to get that same feeling lately

      • Eileen

        I also hear fireworks (on the cape)

        • Sherbet

          You and Davka are hearing them on the Cape, and Howdy and I are hearing them up north. Same fireworks. Good ears. ๐Ÿ˜€

          • Davka

            Wait, I moved to the Cape? That sounds lovely ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Sherbet

              Oh…sorry. I thought you were sorta near the Cape, but, then again, it’s not my business where you are. Sorry, sorry, again. ๐Ÿ™

            • Davka

              No really, nothing to apologize for! I just figured if I was gonna move, someone should tell me (mr. Davka can be very sneaky!) The Cape sounds lovely (except maybe in a snowstorm, or hurricane!). Nope, think west – at least, west of the Cape, but not like, Lenox west. Pretty much somewhere between Boston and Albany ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Sherbet

              OK, I’ve got my GPS pinpointing those coordinates. ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Sandy

      Truth of the matter is that Green Bay should of been of been ben in

      • Garrus Vakarian

        Very true

      • Missionary Kid

        Seattle got there by a last second catch,and got burned by one. If they’d run the ball, they would have won.

    • Vaquera

      Malcolm Butler, “I had a vision that I was going to make a big play.”

    • stillgrace2

      No one can say the game was boring. Four points ahead, 1:20 to go, camera on Brady … He KNOWS … you never celebrate until the deed is done. After the interception, he’s jumping up and down like a kid. I loved it!

    • M from Toronto

      Howdy, you were one of the first thoughts I had.
      Right after Hell Yeah! Patriots!

  • I’m glad I lost my superbowl cherry, but the last 28 seconds of play took about 10 min.
    Do they all end in a little punch-up.

    • Jimmy3

      No. That doesn’t always happen. The Seahawks were butthurt because they were so close. So they threw a little tantrum.

      • Shelly Britt Corrias

        it was probably quite deflating

        • Vaquera

          SBC for the win.

    • Juicer77

      US Football – where a 60 minute game takes 4 freaking hours.

      • Sherbet

        (And they say baseball is slow.)

        • Juicer77

          At least baseball makes sense. 9 innings, three up three down, and you’re done. This “down” stuff makes me dizzy.

          • Sherbet

            It’s easy. One team gets the ball, and they all run together and then some of them fall down. And they keep doing that for about 7 hours. As for me, take me out to the ol’ ballgame on a hot July day…heaven.

      • Garrus Vakarian

        All the breaks are much longer for the superbowl

  • 1subgenius

    How would you just not kill yourself after blowing that game?

  • aquaclara

    To recap,
    Ok, we are back to a Chevy Colorado for hubby. Whew. So many choices. If we were buying a car. But we’re not.

    Philly remains clear.

    Spinach dip definitely counts as a vegetable. The rest of the delicious crap I ate ( and drank) does not. I have no votes accepting vino grapes as a fruit. Wish me luck trying to spin this with the doc tomorrow.

    Scientology could probably use a jingle. Or elevator music.

    This was fun.

    • 1subgenius

      “Scientology could probably use a jingle.”
      Best idea in the history of ideas.
      A jingle!
      Anon deliver.

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        Scientology: When you don’t give a fuck.

        • 1subgenius

          No, for real. With music. A little ear-worm, like “By Mennen”
          or “Nationwide is on your side”, or
          “It ain’t no use if you ain’t got the boost
          The boost you get from Loosener’s.
          The all-weather breakfast!”

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            By Sociopaths, For Sociopaths.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            Ahem.

            We are NOT actually all Bozos on this bus.

            • 1subgenius

              oooooooooh…….

            • Missionary Kid

              Unfortunately, Proctor is a clam.

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            Or:

            Scientology, when logic is just not making it.

            • 1subgenius

              Well, that would be a motto, and we’re looking for jingles.
              You know, like, “you’ll wonder where the yellow went……”
              It would be a catchy phrase set to music.

            • Sherbet

              Oh, gosh, this is funny: I tried a parody on the old Band-Aid jingle.
              “I am stuck on Xenu, ’cause Xenu’s stuck on me”
              I couldn’t remember the rest of the jingle, so I googled one, and look who I got…in the shower, no less (followed by a soap commercial; dude loves his showers).

              http://todaynewsgazette.com/john-travolta-band-aid-ad/

            • 1subgenius

              That is good (your jingle)
              And the Travolta commercial is funny.

            • moonnfire

              ok when i read that my mind went “oh you’ll wonder where your teeth all went when you brush your teeth with crustodent” i think i need therapy now lol

            • beauty for ashes

              Yeah!!!!
              Scientology, we create workable solutions,
              when things don’t work, we just keep working.

          • Garrus Vakarian

            My favorite jingle is an add for an 90’s sitcom “Too Many Cooks” It’s hysterical!!!

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QrGrOK8oZG8

      • Nat-lificent

        “I’d like to teach the world to not think”

        • 1subgenius

          There we go.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          You deserve a brain today!

      • Nat-lificent

        “Gimme a break, gimme a break break me off a piece of that space cult con!”

        • 1subgenius

          Let’s get this on track.
          What if there were a real Scientology jingle….not one putting it down.

          • Nat-lificent

            That might break my brain but I’ll try

          • Michael Leonard Tilse

            I’m afraid to create something they might actually use, but I get your point.

            • 1subgenius

              Hey, they ain’t gonna do it, but it would be funny.

          • aquaclara

            Elevator music. Because it will be the last uninterrupted sleep one gets before signing on the billion year dotted line.

          • Eileen

            Scientology, clearing things up, one planet at a time.

        • aquaclara

          Ha ha. Love these jingles.

      • Nat-lificent

        “My Baloney has a first name. It’s D, A, V, I, D . . .”
        Oh wait, 1sub wants positive . . .
        Rebooting . . .

      • Nat-lificent

        “I don’t wanna grow up. I’m an immortality-for-me kid”

      • Michael Leonard Tilse

        “Make your tomorrow brighter. Scientology.” (gag, retch…)

        • 1subgenius

          Yeah. I can almost hear the tune for it.

      • Nat-lificent

        Last one ‘cuz I cannot deliver a positive Sci jingle. All that runs through my head is: (to the tune of the Chili’s commercial) I want my money back! Money back! Money back! Money back! Money back! Money back!

        • Hingle McCringleberry
          • Garrus Vakarian

            Or here: (F5)

            • L. Wrong Hubturd

              Ah, the floating fat man. We might as well do DM up in the Feyd(Sting) outfit as well.

          • what’suppressive

            Fat Bastard to LRH:” I once ate a fuckin’ baby!”
            LRH to FB: “Oh really , I usually just throw ’em overboard”

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Are you looking for a jingle (short catchy song) or a catch phrase?

        They already have a catch phrase:
        “Scientology: Making Mormonism appear normal since 1950.”

        • 1subgenius

          Let’s see, if only there was some way to find that out.
          “Jingle”. “Jingle”.
          Ah, a jingle. And to make it easy we’ll work with those that are already out there.
          (eg. to Nationwide: “Scientology, good for the mind.”)
          Have everyone work on this and I’ll check back in the morning.

          • Illinoisian

            Plop, plop.
            Fizz, fizz.
            Oh, what a belief it is!

            • 1subgenius

              Awesome.

            • Illinoisian

              Suitable because it doesn’t say anything even remotely specific.

            • beauty for ashes

              **gigglesnort**

  • Rasha

    It’s more satisfying to win the game when the opposition is right at the door. Well, done, Pats. Didn’t see the $cimmercial. Must have blinked. Meh.

  • ShoopZ

    You just can’t make this shit up! (refresh)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      They are grasping at anything they can grasp…

      • Frodis73

        Wood keeps retweeting stuff from twitter where ppl are making fun of scientology. I would love to talk to him in person. Lol.

        • ShoopZ

          I can’t figure out how someone like him can be such a fan of Monty Python. Maybe he thinks it’s a reality show?

          • Frodis73

            That too!! I would love to know how he feels when the Pythons called him out about that too.

            • ShoopZ

              Yeah. That was classic.

            • ShoopZ

              (refresh)

    • Observer

      Wow … acceptable truth in editing!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Here’s a Tweet that sums it up nicely:

  • 3-7-77

    Just one of those things. Still reeling from that amazing Seattle catch, and the guy sitting next to me casually remarks “Now watch them **** it right up.” I could almost see the $50 I bet floating down into my hand, then getting yanked away by a fishing line.

    And how come Travolta wasn’t rushing the field with copies of Way to Happiness when those punches were getting thrown at the end?

    Also, no Scientology ad in Montana ๐Ÿ™

    • “And how come Travolta wasn’t rushing the field with copies of Way to
      Happiness when those punches were getting thrown at the end?”

      snickersnort..snickesnort

      • California

        Not that would have fun to see!

      • Tracy Schmitz

        perhaps he was waaay too busy with binoculars on the player’s faces and their pants!?

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Were there any 1 minute ads, or all 30 seconds?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      30 and 15.

      Those minute ads are, you know, expensive.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Somebody on Twitter get an invitation out to this guy. He belongs here:

    • GrandEclectus

      I’m laughing so hard, my cockatiel is imitating me…makes it even funnier!

    • Frodis73

      He got a lot of cussing in that short video.

    • actual video link http://youtu.be/XI0eucM3r_g

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Even Twitter wasn’t nearly as interested in Scientology this year as it was last year:

  • Richard Grant

    Update on Tonight’s Big Story:

    The TV my daughter won in a bar drawing in Newport, Rhode Island, has a 42-inch screen.

    In other news … the Dean of Student Affairs at George Washington University is getting lightly plastered on Twitter by students, Bunkeroos, and other interested parties. It’s not a category 5 twitstorm, but it’s heartening. You can do your part @GWPeterK

  • GrandEclectus

    MT @DanJoseph78: The REAL story tomorrow is going to be all the new Scientology converts #superbowl— John Alex Wood (@johnalexwood) February 2, 2015

    One of the funniest tweets of all of this!! They really think tomorrow is going to be recruitment city! Bwah ha!

    • Ruby

      D.E.L.U.S.I.O.N.A.L.

    • LongtimeLurker

      He can’t believe that can he?

      I mean, I know he believes that he believes it, but surely he can’t really believe that he believes that he believes it.

      Surely?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Glad for the heads up. Now I won’t be caught by surprise…

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      Either completely intoxicated with the Kool-Aide or one of the most sublime trolls of all time.

    • daytoncapri

      Hard to believe anyone would write this and mean it. Could this be a snark?

      • GrandEclectus

        I’ve been snowed! Thought it was real too.
        The great thing is…John Wood thinks it’s really REALLY REAL.
        Bwah ha! Perfection.

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        No snarkness. @The Prison of Belief.

    • Juicer77

      I’ve been planning my post-Bowl Monday lurker message all week – along these lines.

    • scottmercer

      The most remarkable thing is that when that doesn’t happen in any way remotely tomorrow, they will shrug it off, or exaggerate the figures if a few people do show up, or, most likely of all, just straight up lie about hundreds of people showing up, clamoring (heh) to be a Scientologist.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Indie Scientology News doesn’t quite seem to know how Twitter works:

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      My dad got an Ed.D. from GW and is super pissed about the LRH coverage.

      • Juicer77

        I hope he contacts the Alumni Association.

        • Hingle McCringleberry

          Done and done.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Oh man, the only way that could have been better is if the Cherch itself had retweeted it!

  • Ruby

    Thank God I did not see any of them thru the game!

  • The colored Pie Chart $cientology of all religions Showing They are the largest religion of them all !!! Anyone here could draw that up. You know they didn’t contact ever other religion named in it and get the truth directly from them, they just colored them in the way they wanted it to look. And of course !! Who the hell is going to challenge it? No 0ne and they know that !!! Christians out number thier butts in a heartbeat !! And it’s free and they help so many people on this earth without asking for anything in return let alone thousands and control of your life and mind!

    • 3-7-77

      Don’t look or think too hard when it comes to those pie charts. They’re like those old “Magic Eye” 3d pictures that bring naught but migraines and wasted time the more you stare at them.

    • GrandEclectus

      Now that takes cojones!
      They are often counted as one of the “other” religions, not even making the charts.
      Fool’s Paradise, these people!

    • GrandEclectus

      http://www.adherents.com/Religions_By_Adherents.html

      I was doing some checking of world wide religions, and they are either old, or simply say “these are estimates”. I saw one that said Scientologists 500,000 in the world…of course, we know where they get those figures.

      So, assuming this is their educated guess, it’s just worth noting that Scamtology isn’t even on the radar.

    • Frodis73

      Most people don’t haven’t met a scientologist, let alone know somebody who is currently in. You can turn around and there is a Christian.The sci’s love their version of math though.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      What was that sad pie chart being ambivalent to the Jews for?

  • Hingle McCringleberry

    I can confirm that the great city of Houston, Texas- 3rd or 4th largest city in the U.S.A.- did not feel the warm embrace of Miscavige’s P.R. machine immediately before, during, or after the Superbowl. While a certain H. McCringleberry did win money on the outcome, his thetan was not launched on a path to total spiritual freedom through mental subjugation and financial ruination. That is all.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      Need to add that Houston was previously included in Co$ Superbowl ad purchases in the past, but not this year. Guess some belt tightening is going on, or else DAVID MISCAVIGE DON’T CARE BOUT HOUSTON PEOPLES!

      • 3-7-77

        Due to his ecclesiastical duties and wide-angle worldview, David Miscavige has no dealings or even knowledge of Texas, much less some podunk little burg that shares the name of a famous artist he was unable to lure into his scam.

    • Robert Eckert

      They did not bother with Detroit either.

  • Ruby

    And, I just want to say about the half time show…i LOVED that Katy came out on top of the tiger singing ROAR.
    It made me love Leah all over agin.
    And having John T. in the audience made that extra sweet.

    • Hingle McCringleberry

      I regretted the lack of malfunctioning wardrobe, but otherwise good.

  • GrandEclectus

    Have we been hacked?

    • Juicer77

      ?? I don’t see anything alarming

    • Mighty Korgo of Teegeeack

      I just got in with no apparent problem.

    • mmmmm……NO….mine is good. I just checked

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      ???

    • MaxSpaceman

      nope. Close your browser. Try again.

    • GrandEclectus

      I only got that when I tried to get from the Disqus to the main site. I’ve gotten that before.
      Thanks, folks.
      NP now.
      Worth noting however, JIC

  • The age of answers
    No religion or science
    They just want your cash
    #scientology #SBcommercials #haiku

    Get yourself some free
    Spiritual technology
    Get ghost screen saver
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #SavesYourLifeAndCash

    Wants you to forget
    #GoingClear is coming soon
    Don’t fall for their tricks
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #SEEGoingClear

  • Vaquera

    Instagram find that led me to a website for the actress in the Scio commercial, Sophia Le.
    http://instagram.com/p/ylMJWYJSmr/

    https://beyondbeautifulwithginahendrix.wordpress.com/2012/11/05/oct-18-sophia-le/

    • Vaquera

      Another site
      http://www.nikkizangels.com/topmodel/sophia-le/

      I couldn’t find any gouge to confirm she’s a Sciloon.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      One of her friends weighed in on Twitter:

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Here she is on Flickr.

      Excerpt: “I believe everything happens for a reason. It’s up to you to understand the why behind every little thing that happens, whether good or bad.”

      Either Scientology or the ramblings of a model. Same difference.

      https://www.flickr.com/people/sophiale/

      • GrandEclectus

        “I believe everything happens for a reason.” one of thee DUMBEST platitudes. Whose reason, and what’s the reason. People MUST stop saying that.

      • GrandEclectus

        She’s a real philosopher, ain’t she?

    • I am sorry but…..

      โ€œNever regret yesterday. Life is in you today, and you make your tomorrow.โ€

      – L. Ron Hubbard

      โ€œA person is either the effect of his environment or is able to have an effect upon his environment.โ€

      -L. Ron Hubbard

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Miss Tia in da house!

    (refresh)

    • Juicer77

      Look at her go!

      • Was on a roll with that GW guy—saw a mention here when I stopped by before bed how someone from GW tweeted LRH was a GW alum who founded scientology….um, that’s nothing to be proud of!!

        • 3-7-77

          It would’ve been bad enough if it were true, but it’s even worse, if not insane to claim that when he never even graduated. It’d be like the Vienna Academy of Fine Arts boasting about Hitler being a student.

          • daytoncapri

            Man-o-man, you just made a great post.

          • BRILLIANT comparison!!!! Nope, they most certainly do NOT boast that hitler went there!!

        • L. C. Spencer

          I tweeted back that he was a dropout. Really, I don’t understand how some people get to be deans of universities. He’s a DEAN. *facepalm*

          • GrandEclectus

            I worked briefly in a “respected” academic organization. What a CLUSTER. And, they were REALLY expensive.
            But, this guy is going to have an interesting Monday!
            Maybe we can get that darn plaque removed.
            If they are going to talk about Hubbard, they should illuminate what a Slitherin he was!

            • L. C. Spencer

              I think a public walkback plus removal of that plaque by embarrassed administrators would be a perfectly agreeable outcome to this little flap!

          • A DEAN?!?! Of what? Dunces?

            • L. C. Spencer

              …ain’t it awful?

            • VERY awful!

    • aquaclara

      So excellent. Love love love Miss Tia’s tweets!

    • I posted ’em below, but thank you for screen capping them like this! I posted some links to tweets in reply that to that GW guy too. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Richard Grant

    So, trolls fear American football?

    Commies.

    • daytoncapri

      chuckle ๐Ÿ™‚

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    scientology answers ad just played again in Tampa. 11:00 pm

    • Sherbet

      Did the ad run in Boston, does anyone know? It would be kind of dumb to skip the Boston market with all the Pats fans watching.

      • Eclipse-girl

        But you haven’t anted up to renovate the idle Morge

      • Davka

        I’d be shocked if it ran around here, actually. I didn’t see one, and now I’m listening to Ed Harding and Mike Lynch talk about the game, so even if there was supposed to be an ad, it’s way overridden by school cancellations and player interviews.

      • Captain Howdy

        Nyet!

    • MaxSpaceman

      They really drenched the Greater Tampa area with ads! Has to be they wanted to reach every clam in and around Clamwater.

  • 3-7-77

    Have yet to see the ad, but those still frames… the guy futzing around with the DNA coil, and that giant glowing bridge chart… now I’ve got Minority Report and the 2001 monolith in my head.

  • Rather than watch the Big Game tonight, I did a little indexing. Associated Press has very nicely put a beta archive online with articles going back decades. If it’s alien, it’s ours So I indexed the 116 Scientology articles that Google currently knows about. I’ll still have to go through them manually to add the tags that the automatics missed, but it’s not bad as is. I haven’t even read them all yet.

    Category:Associated Press

    Ha! Some things never change:
    Becker threatens to go to court against Church of Scientology June 28, 1997, Associated Press

    • MaxSpaceman

      Nice articles! (btw, how come you have on for so much of your post ?

      • Refresh. I messed up the closing strike out tag.

    • One thing that I’ve noticed. The AP articles are all over the map on the publishing year of Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health. 1948 seems popular. Any bets that was due to Scientology sources trying to adjust Hubbard’s history?

      This one has 1959:
      Church President: Hubbard Left Most of Estate to Scientology Church February 7, 1986, Associated Press

      Tabb said his law firm had secondhand information that Hubbard’s estate could be worth up to $600 million. But Earl Cooley, national counsel for the church, told the Globe that figure was ridiculous. Previous estimates had been put at $280 million.

      Earl Cooley is a Big Fat Dead Liar!

  • outraged

    saw the ad in NYC metro area. :-{
    very gross.
    It is now dvr’d by accident.
    I couldn’t’ even watch the whole thing.
    My husband insisted because he was curious.
    It was so smarmy the oil was dripping off the screen.

    • 3-7-77

      Careful, liquid thetan runoff is a known and toxic byproduct of Scientology ads

      • outraged

        I am tiptoeing around the tv set.
        thinking of maybe shooting the ad as it plays, make some kind of suppressive clammy art piece.

        • 3-7-77

          Make a video showing you lowering the tv set into a paper mache volcano? While the ad runs, of course.

          • outraged

            Like the one in Close Encounters?

            oh no, that was clay.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              Wasn’t that a Butte?

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              No, Queen. An unborn volcano with “the hole doesn’t exist”,

              “The simplest explanation is that Devils Tower is a stockโ€”a small intrusive body formed by magma which cooled underground and was later exposed by erosion.

              The magma which formed Devils Tower cooled and crystallized into a rock type known as phonolite porphyry. It is a light to dark-gray or greenish-gray igneous rock with conspicuous crystals of white feldspar. Hot molten magma is less dense and occupies more volume than cool hardened rock. As the rock cooled, it contracted, forming hexagonal (and sometime 4-, 5- and 7-sided) columns separated by vertical cracks.”
              http://www.nps.gov/deto/naturescience/geologicformations.htm

              http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/46/Devils_Tower_CROP.jpg

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              Well Queen, Queen wasn’t so wrong after all, and it would be a good thing if you did a bit more research before you attack her!
              http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Butte
              The Devils Tower in northeastern Wyoming is a laccolithic butte composed of igneous rock rather than sandstone, limestone or other sedimentary rocks.
              In differentiating mesas and buttes, geographers use the rule of thumb that a mesa has a top that is wider than its height, while a butte has a top that is narrower than its height.

            • LongtimeLurker

              That’s telling her Queen.

              Great film.

            • Ella Raitch

              He’s such a baby in this!

    • scottmercer

      Did you have an oiliness table to catch it?

      • outraged

        nah. using a cookie tin.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        You know they just recycle the cooking oil from the fryer in the, Ft. Horrison’s deep fat fryer.

  • Artoo45

    Man, I don’t tweet normally, but I had to jump on the GWU dogpile. Idiot.

  • Blind Item about Travolta

    pic

    • romanesco

      Good find. Hope it’s true. Maybe it doesn’t matter that they have dirt on him, if people wise up to the fact that they manufacture dirt.

    • Frodis73

      I hope it’s true that he asked for a copy of the doc! He should tie Kelly up and make her watch it with him. I think he’s the *only* celeb that would come out okay from this…he is still well liked even with the scientology and the massage stuff. I hope he can’t ignore his doubts anymore and blows.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        He won’t blow except some starangers on the other side of gloryholes,

    • Aslan’s Own

      I wonder if it’s more that his wife and kids would disconnect from him than that his secrets would come out.

      • Ruby

        His wife would not disconnect. She got into the cult because of him.
        And on Kirstie, they are definitely being told what to do and NOT to do on the media lines. Their lives are controlled by OSA and the cherch, no matter how much they don’t want to see that.

        • Aslan’s Own

          I didn’t know his wife got him in. I really hope they get out.

          • Ruby

            No, she got into the cult because of him. He got her in.

            • Aslan’s Own

              Sorry — I read your comment and then mixed it up. I’m almost asleep – I really should just turn off the PC when I get this tired – no telling what I’ll say! ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Ruby

              ๐Ÿ™‚

        • TheQueenofBulgravia

          There was a Celeb meeting somewhere the night “Going Clear” opened.

      • no way… she’s too much of a fame whore to ever leave him or threaten disconnection; I’ve mentioned elsewhere that I think the real dirt the cult has on Travolta/Cruise/Alley lies with the adoption of their kids…. sure something really dodgy went on there and I guess a threat of their kids finding out is probably a lot worse then admitting he likes bumming… just my guess.

        • Ruby

          JT’s kids were not adopted

          • look at the blond haired blue eyed latest edition who looks nothing like his siblings

        • Margaret Cho and Carrie Fisher have both talked about JT being gay, nobody pays attention to either one because Margaret Cho is one of those in-your-face heteros(she is married) who advocate for gays, bisexuals, etc, and Carrie Fisher, well, that’s because she’s Carrie Fisher, I’m waiting for the next Star Wars episode to find out what bar in Mos Isley the Princess was trapped in for the past 32 years.

  • scottmercer

    Age of Answers just aired in LA at 8:19 PM PST on KNBC.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Saw it, too.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Scientology ad just ran again during Blacklist here in SoCal. Same ad. 8:18pm PST.

  • MaxSpaceman

    11:19pm EST. Scilon 15 second ‘answers’ ad. runs again. KNBC-TV, New York.

  • few more….i gotta go to bed….getting really tired and the critters are in ‘bedtime routine’ positions….i have a few more knocking around in my head…..there’s always tomorrow! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    Buying local ads
    Trying to improve image
    Can’t remodel death
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #IdealDecay

    It’s ‘ideal’ decay
    Empty buildings, promises
    Lives destroyed and lost
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials

    The age of answers
    Yet the Sci Church won’t do that
    They hide from questions
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #WhyNoChurchLeaderInterviews

    Won’t give interviews
    Attacks those who speak the truth
    What are they hiding?
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #TheyHideTheReality

    Reality hid
    From the public, media,
    And from themselves too.
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials #DenialNotJustARiver

    Denial of truth
    It still exists, it won’t hide
    It ALWAYS comes out
    #haiku #scientology #SBcommercials

    • Aslan’s Own

      Between these and your tweets, you’re on fire!

      • Aw thanks. I was pretty fired up for a bit! ๐Ÿ™‚

    • beauty for ashes

      Goodnight Miss Sweet Tia! Are the critters children, or animals, or both? ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Critters are 2 doggies and some kittehs—they ACT like children if that counts? ๐Ÿ˜‰ Gosh, there’s times with the 2 dogs where I think 2 toddlers having tantrums would be better—such as when I give each dog the EXACT same treat. Well Pan has to see what Poli has–is it the same as hers? the same size as hers? Then Poli has to see what Pan has–is it the same as hers? the same size? Then Poli will usually gobble hers up and Pan will slowly tease Poli with hers ‘haha I still have mine’ and Poli will whine. OR Pan will steal Poli’s treat from her and then Poli will come to whining hopping around and I know that’s the ‘Mommy she took my treat’ and I go get it from Pan–who will be guarding both between her front paws—and give it back to Poli who’ll hop around with it ‘I got my treat back I got my treat back’ which pisses Pan off and Pan plots to take it take back and we repeat. When they get treats bigger than bil-jac bones or anything that can’t be eaten immediately I basically have to sit there and wait for them to finish. And they will NEVER EVER get doggy ice cream again!!! I’m not even discussing that one. The kitties got chicken yesterday—I sent the dogs out so they didn’t gobble it up!

        Bed time though, 3 kitties get canned food in the bathroom (others get a can after the dogs are in bed). The dogs go out, then go to bed with treats, then the others get their canned food. They know their routine and if i’m late, they start gathering!!! ‘hey bitch, it’s bedtime!!’ Skittles—who lives in the computer room, will start yelling at me to take over this chair!! ‘It’s MY chair overnight!’

  • Carisa Marion

    OMG! The ad is excellent. Best ever. Makes people curious I am sure. It actually follows the ART Series. I wonder who created it? I wish they’d say who it was. Probably some kid at Gold.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Wonder if it was these twerps:

      • GrandEclectus

        wow, they even hire a wog firm to do it. Geez, what was the purpose of all those TV studios? What a JOKE. (I know it’s just window dressing. Rhetorical question, really.)

    • 3-7-77

      I thought Miscavige was the true creator of these videos, MESTing them into existence with the kind of Big Beingness that must be concealed by such obviously false entities as Golden Era Productions and SO staff…

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Don’t you mean OMX…?

  • Vaquera

    Another Russian clear at Flag.
    http://instagram.com/p/yk6MlqEdaH/

    • Juicer77

      Lots of imports these days. Do they understand enough English to comprehend what they’re doing? You can bet $camatology doesn’t provide proper translators.

    • Frodis73

      What? No fancy over size certificate?

      • 3-7-77

        Actually, now that you mention the certificate, I’m noticing that the writing and little illustrations are almost a match for the way my mom grades her first graders! It’s even got the tone-scale smiley face on top, all that’s missing is a “YOU’RE GREAT!” sticker.

        • beauty for ashes

          They’re there, they’re just… “clear.”
          **runs away*** ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Todd Tomorrow

            “But Jesus’s glimpse of the Bride of Christ, is a gift from the holy spirit!” I’ve been saved! Does that mean I have to get reborn?

            • beauty for ashes

              I don’t know what that means, but I know I love you more for it!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              And,” Jesus the vision of the Holy Ghost, loves you,too.” I just imagine, Agnus Morehead popping into one of her meetings. She played Endora, Samantha’s mum on Bewitched!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              (Pssst. AGNES MOOREHEAD played Endora. I don’t know who Agnus Morehead was, although Agnus Dei was a lamb…!)

            • Todd Tomorrow
            • Todd Tomorrow

              Twitch of my nose any you were saying, DD…

        • Nat-lificent

          . . . .

          • Frodis73

            I so totally love this shoop.

          • beauty for ashes

            Aww Stirling Hepburn. It’s perfect!
            Ben Klevit would do well with some mouse ears and whiskers too!

    • GrandEclectus

      Great, now demonstrate you’re god like powers, and collect a Million bucks from the James Randi Foundation…We’re waiting. It’s easy for you. Wait, what? You can’t show off. Sure. Whatevs.

    • There, see–A solid grip! She’s not holding it by the finger-tips of a couple fingers like it was a really dead fish.

      • beauty for ashes

        I’ve been noticing that too. So I held a piece of paper and thought ,imagine this is the best thing, and I held it up between 4 fingers and my palm with thumbs up. Fascinating body language tells. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • beauty for ashes

      Do you remember Miss Succubus Slutskaya from the pics at flag, the one that Pan wrote that epic off the cuff poem about~ I betcha she’s from Mother Russia too.

    • Nat-lificent

      Why do they keep drawing on the papers like children?

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Because cults make people revert back to a childlike state of dependance. She thinks this was fun:)

  • GrandEclectus

    This is what my mom believed. Scary!
    http://youtu.be/GMJJnET0HN4

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Ah, Kathryn Kuhlman. The last link to the old-time tent preachers. She had a very pronounced speech impediment, which forced her into a very idiosyncratic delivery. It was especially obvious in film and video.

      She also (by all accounts) had a pretty good sense of humor about herself. She really believed everything she preached, though. Hard for us to understand today.

      • GrandEclectus

        She was a faith healer…and she had a deformity. Great. Mom didn’t mention that!

        It’s like Master Choa Kok Sui, the founder of “Pranic Healing” cult who died at 52, I have read.
        Unfortunately, little REAL info is available. If you do a search on “Pranic Healing scam” you get tons of sites advocating that scam as if it’s something beneficial.
        Cults. I hates ’em!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Scarey this woman.” Holy Ghost, Holy shit!

        • what’suppressive

          I second that emotion.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I don’t know that she had a “deformity.” She had a bad stutter. That was the source of her overly dramatic speech patterns.

      • Todd Tomorrow

        ” The glimples of the bride of Christ,the father’s gift to his son.” I’m in love with her.

        • GrandEclectus

          No, No! Avert your eyes! Oh, woe is me, what have I done!

          • Todd Tomorrow

            I don’t know but I can’t stop watching it.

          • Douglas D. Douglas

            She is strangely mesmerizing…

      • Nat-lificent

        What makes you say she believed it?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Based on every interview I ever saw or read with her, she really did believe.

          • Nat-lificent

            Hmph.

      • Nat-lificent

        And, what is hard to understand “today”? A con is con is a con.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Hard to understand how people found this so compelling. To us it’s over-the-top and weird. It was already being perceived that way while she was alive.

          • Nat-lificent

            How poor and powerless have you or your parent’s ever been (rhetorical query — please don’t answer)? The Pentecostal faith healer/charlatan preachers lured many in my community after The Depression because it offered hope, “charity”, and most importantly POWER to the lowest of the low.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I would say they held a certain sway up through and well into the 1970s. There are still a few practitioners out there– and they have a following almost exclusively among the poor and disenfranchised. I have no argument there.

            • Nat-lificent

              There are a lot of poor and disenfranchised still.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Oooh! In the background: Oral Roberts and former daughter-in-law Patty Roberts. Vintage 1970s fashions there…

    • Juicer77

      That’s pretty intense!

    • Couch_Incident

      Interesting woman, dubious results: “One woman who was said to have been cured of spinal cancer threw away her brace and ran across the stage at Kuhlman’s command; her spine collapsed the next day and she died four months later.”

      • Todd Tomorrow

        Horrible!

      • Nat-lificent

        She was a fucking Pentecostal charlatan like Aimee Semple McPherson before her.

      • GrandEclectus

        That’s sad.
        I was dragged to one of KK’s tent meetings as a child. My mother REALLY believed all this crap.
        It’s why I have no patience for false beliefs.

        She flew to and back from a meeting once, and she blew her nose and found a clot. She thought KK had HEALED her. What probably happened was the cabin pressure loosened something in her sinus. False attribution on her part. But it made her feel that Jesus was healing her.

        She said, on her death bed, that she was going to be healed of cancer by Jesus; she was feeling better. Well, chemo and pain killers can do that for you. I did not try to tell her that was not so. It was her comfort. But, sad that people hold onto straws and to their detriment in many cases.

        In these cases, there is no call to argue. They are happy with their delusions.

      • beauty for ashes

        That makes me so sad. Why don’t people feel guilty for preaching that shit when they see what it does? (I know there’s no good answer for that)

        • Nat-lificent

          1. They are delusional and believe it to be true
          2. They are in too deep and see no way to stop playing along
          3. They know it doesn’t work but feel they are “comforting” the destitute and doomed
          4. They like money for nothing
          5. Some combination of the above

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I wanna take lessons from her. Jesus, I’ll have my cult going in no time!

    • Nat-lificent

      Gotta love those Azuza Street legacy charlatans
      XP

    • Nat-lificent

      *Sigh* Times like these I miss the downvote button soooooooooooo much ๐Ÿ™

    • She used to be on every Sunday. My mother once did a satire of her healing someone from a case of constipation. Mom was a community theater actress, and she could be funny as hell at the drop of a hat.

  • Carisa Marion

    That second ad about the betterment activities made me sad. If only it was all really true. If only it was like that. It was all greatly exaggerated and just a great PR LIE. Those inside must feel very proud thinking their IAS dollars are actually doing all that “freely, selflessly,……..” and you just can’t miss that pie chart at the end where the combined voluteers by religon put Scientologists as the biggest piece of the pie, ugh. As if any of them have time or money to be doing all that volunteering? I guess they counted every person who ever did an HQS course who had to do a nerve assist on another student or something. Or counted every hour of an SO member who works in one of those orgs. Well now if only they would rise up to their claims and really do all that. That’s how it’s supposed to work after advertising in advance what doesn’t yet exist. Lawyers and ads is where most the dollars go I’m sure. Too bad………

    • Juicer77

      The sad thing is it’s not just exaggerated, it’s completely false. Scientology is not designed to help anyone. It’s designed to make people feel good about themselves and make a profit in the process. I agree, it’s a waste of otherwise valuable resources, especially the time and effort of well-meaning people.

  • Sidney18511
    • GrandEclectus

      I’m basking!
      Good job, world. JUST SAY NO to Scamtology.

    • Aslan’s Own

      I love how many tweets come up when they put “creepy” and “scientology” in the search box!

    • Nat-lificent

      “aggressive lens flare”

  • PalaceAthena

    Totally embarrassed to be a GWU alum right now. And yeah I tweeted that dumbass to let him know.

    • edge

      So, if I took a few classes and dropped out, and then paid the school a ton of money I could be an alum too?

      • PalaceAthena

        Apparently so according to the illustrious Dean of Student Affairs. Ugh.

      • GrandEclectus

        You have to start a sprawling, venal, mind control, money grabbing cult first. The want accomplishments! Achievements. RESULTS.

  • edge

    They really do love that e-meter don’t they? I don’t blame the ad firm though. It was probably put in at the insistence of the church. Not shown: The $5000 price tag for what amounts to a crude lie detector.

    • outraged

      I was a little surprised the meter was in the commercial. That was the only part my husband seemed to notice, in a Pawn Stars kind of way.

      • edge

        I’m also surprised the put the grade chart in the ad. Again, they love it, and the church probably insisted it be put in but it goes over the head of the regular folk that are viewing the ad. To the Scis watching they’ll probably think, “Yeah, that’s the Bridge!” Regular folk are probably like “Hey, that’s a pretty funky Excel template!”

    • GrandEclectus

      The ad firm is likely one of their tentacles. They were tweeting about how great it was.
      I thought they would do it In-House, since they claim to have all the media studios and skills.

    • Captain MustSavage

      One plastic skin galvanometer: $5000
      Escaping the religious ‘retreat’ you were locked up in during your Bridge to Toal Freedom: Priceless.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      you have to buy,two.

      • The Dude

        Hey Todd! Great game! Many beers!

        • Todd Tomorrow

          Hey Dude, it sure was!!

          • The Dude

            Just checking in. Almost my pass out time. The wife snores beside me already.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Have a great week Boss!

            • The Dude

              Thanks. You too. I want one of those cool DK mugs that you say you have. Got the wife on it!
              Jeff Hawkins was kind enough to give me the graphic file for the OBEY misgavige Icon. I want to make T-Shirts and shit. Mugs would be boss!

            • Mark Foster

              Dude, when you have t-shirts, hit me up at markfretless@gmail.com. I want to buy one!

            • The Dude

              You got it! Don’t know when I will have spare funds to make them but you will first on my list. I will put you in my gmail contacts right now!

            • Mark Foster

              ๐Ÿ™‚ thanks!

            • Todd Tomorrow

              It says, “Search and Destroy” on it which means it was a Henry Rollin’s Band mug. It is huge like his head.

    • Todd Tomorrow
  • GrandEclectus

    Good night, and thanks everyone. I need a hang out right now. This is a very riveting subject, like a train wreck, but with more laughs. Thanks to Tony and all who are on the front lines.
    Looking forward to tomorrow’s post! Cheers!

    • Todd Tomorrow

      “And may the Bride of Christ be a vision of the soul of God.”

  • The Dude

    They didn’t show it in Boston. Aww.

    • Frodis73

      Did you see the ad with Jeff Bridges tho? Everybody gave you a shout out.

      • The Dude

        I did. He is a cool guy. I thought of all of you. My son said, “Daddy it’s The Dude!”! Love that boy!

  • The Dude

    I was at an epic party! Did someone mention me? Triple D say ya’ll been talkin bout me?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You came up when the Jeff Bridges ad ran.

      • The Dude

        Cool man. I loved it. Love you guys.

  • Tj Jacobberger

    Do body thetans count as members of the church? If so then their numbers might be right.

    • The Dude

      Ba-dum-ba-dum tish!

  • LongtimeLurker

    Here’s an average person’s reaction, from over at the Slate article;
    F5 (why do we say that?)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      To let folks know to refresh. Attached images may not appear automatically.

      • LongtimeLurker

        Yeah, I thought that, but when I do, it kicks me back up to the top and I have to find the comment all over again.

        Or is that how the feature is supposed to work?

        • Nat-lificent

          Yes. Stoopid Disqus.

        • Robert Eckert

          The superior method is to right-click the time-stamp (“27 minutes ago” or whatever) and choose “open in new tab”: this creates a second copy of the Bunker which jumps to the post with the picture you wanted to see, while leaving the original tab undisturbed so you don’t lose your place. Disqus ought to handle this better, but it doesn’t.

          • The Dude

            Bravo Robert! I never figured that out. I am going to do that. I just refreshed every couple of minutes so I kept up. But I like your approach better. Out of the box.

          • LongtimeLurker

            Thanks for that. I’ll try it.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Just right click and open in a new window. It will leave the thread in place.

          And… Disqus sucks.

    • The Dude

      Discus sucks.

  • Suppressive Tomato

    I fixed their ad for them:

    (Voiceover) We live in an age of searching

    To find our car keys

    To find find our phone

    To find something to watch on cable

    Now, imagine an age in which
    The gimmickry of pseudoscience
    And the persistence of a collection agent
    Combine

    Welcome to the age of “regging” for the IAS (End of voiceover)

    (Titles) superficial folly

    scientology.org (End)

    • Nat-lificent

      “Now, imagine an age in whichThe gimmickry of pseudoscience
      And the persistence of a collection agent
      Combine”

      XD

    • Todd Tomorrow

      “And the persistence of a collection agent
      Combine”…HeHe! Love it!

  • Re the GWU Vice Provost & Dean tweet Tony posted above and commentators have discussed there’s one thing that’s been bothering me about it [see pic]… for those that find out these things normally can they find out if he is an actual clam or took any courses or some such….

    • Frodis73

      He’s not on this list…I guess this list is outdated though.
      http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/

      • Frodis73

        I bet you can request to keep your information private though…?

      • hmmm… maybe he’s under radar… going through his twitter feed it gets interesting…

        pic

        • …. man, the more I’m looking the more I’m convinced…. this tweet is just freaking spooky…

          • Frodis73

            Freudian slip? Lol. If I had to place a bet on whether he was a clam, I’d go with yes.

            • … more and more… [somebody should look into Doctor Jobes]

              pic

            • LongtimeLurker

              What a scumbag.

              Man, of all the things they do, their anti-psych thing enrages me the most.

              Well except for the disconnection.

              And the constant money-grubbing.

              And…

              yeah.

            • I’m going through his tweets and grabbing anything that looks clammy…. I don’t have time to look at the links so I will post them here…. below is the tweet and here’s the link… I remember scientology was all over the Sandy Hook killings so maybe some others could investigate a bit more

              pics

              http://ht.ly/HIW0m

            • … evidence mounting?

              pic

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Back. Off.

              “Wellness” is a buzzword through all health care.

              You are getting on my nerves with this. It makes us seem like a pack of witch hunters.

            • sorry, but anybody who has thousands of twitter followers, especially students, and posts a link to scientology [as a good thing] isn’t going to make me back off because you said so!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              He didn’t post as good or bad. Dramatically misinformed, you bet.

              And I ask you to back off because this is exactly the sort of thing that our detractors point to when criticizing the Bunker. By all means, examine, research, and gather the facts. But don’t run off in all directions, guns blazing, and ignore facts that don’t fit a pre-constructed narrative. There is nothing else in this guy’s feed that says “Scientologist.” If anything, his interest in and promotion of mental health activities would indicate exactly the opposite.

            • Mark Foster

              Triple D is right; ยจwellnessยจ has been a buzzword in mainstream healthcare for at least 20 years, if not longer…I think educating instead of attacking might be a more effective tactic.

            • he’s been educated big time tonight but, as far as I’m concerned, he’s kept his tweet with the scientology link…. out of the 6 thousand [predominately] students who follow him he’s supplied them with a link that comes with (IMO) an endorsement… I mean, how bad can scientology be if your fucking Dean is tweeting the link!

            • Mark Foster

              I get your point. Thanks for taking him to school …and , hopefully, heยดll check out the Bunker and continue his education!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I think he is just very misinformed. Education, rather than attacks, might be best here.

            • read my latest grabs

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I did. With all due respect, you are veering into nuttiness.

            • as far as I’m concerned if you link to scientology in a positive way on twitter, have a responsible position in a well respected university and have thousands of impressionable minds as your followers then you deserve the wrath that people like myself can wrought… there are enough naive teachers/lecturers/Deans etc {see New York stories posted here recently} out there not paying attention that visiting drug/mental health specialists that the cult gets through.

              so – yeah, I’m not going to stop my blog post about this guy because you’re telling me to “back-off”… you’re not my parents or the commentating police here!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Sigh.

              I have no problem with criticism based on what someone actually does. But this search through his feed and drawing conclusions that are dead wrong (“wellness” is a term exclusive to Scientology?!?) makes my head hurt.

              And no, I am not your parent OR the commentating police, but I am with all due modesty, among the most officious personalities you will meet in the Bunker. And proud of it.

            • you started a comment to me with “Back.Off” … you’ve known me here long enough to know that that crap gets my hackles up…. why haven’t you addressed the main paragraph of my response?

              Do you really think this Dean sent out a positive tweet about scientology and a link to their main site by accident… hence my question asking can he possibly be that naive?… this guy tweets a lot and has had a lot of people mentioning this directly to him and he has chosen to keep that tweet there… as far as I’m concerned if he was ACTUALLY NAIVE he would have realised his mistake and removed it, especially as it’s been pointed out to him dozen, possibly hundreds of times… make of that what you will; me, well, there are going to be consequences.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              I certainly do know you well, as you know me. That’s why I have no compunction about addressing you directly. It’s all good.

              And I have answered your questions directly. Yes, this guy is just that naive. And now he is getting a wake up call.

              That’s all.

              EDIT:
              Also, I didn’t start out with “Back. Off.” I went there after you kept making unsubstantiated charges.

            • your edit is moot: no one reads numerous comments in order if the same person is replying and commenting to the same person on numerous comments

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              My edit was intended for you. I assume you have been reading these comments in order.

            • coonellie

              http://psychology.cua.edu/faculty/jobes.cfm

              David A. Jobes, Ph.D., ABPP

              Professor of Psychology

              Associate Director of Clinical Training

              Board Certified Clinical Psychologist

              American Board of Professional Psychology
              email: jobes@cua.edu

              lab: Suicide Prevention Lab
              Catholic University in D.C.

              I’d say that means Peter K is probably not a Scientologist.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Yep.

            • coonellie

              Didn’t see your post…sorry for the double up!

              Hey, how was Blacklist tonight? I don’t have time to watch (got a slew of work), but love the show.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              GMTA.

              I didn’t watch Blacklist, it was just on in the background after the game. Stuff blew up and the lead scowled a lot. Is that helpful?

            • coonellie

              Hah! I lost my mind after baby C was born and I haven’t found it since, but thanks for the compliment.

              The review is very helpful (ahem), thanks. I actually enjoy watching James Spader. He’s always intrigued me. I like his approach to life and acting – life first, acting second. It seems to come across when he’s on tube.

            • Robert Eckert

              When he showed up in the first promo before the Super Bowl my buddies said “Alan Shore is there, but where is Denny Crane?”

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Just to put a final nail in this coffin, why did you edit out the Tweet that lead off this part of the thread? It encourages students to call the GW Counseling Center– a MENTAL HEALTH help line. Did you know that GWU is connected to a teaching hospital, with mental health counseling as a component?

          (refresh for image)

          • there was no “edit”… I was scrolling through his page and grabbing stuff that caught my eye… even now I have no idea what you’re talking about. you do realise that edit means that I had a screengrab, looked at it and removed something I didn’t like and represented it… not sure how you come to your conclusion

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              What you choose is part of the editing process. You are looking for “interesting” material, and that’s fine. But don’t cherry-pick the stuff that looks vaguely clammy and skip over the stuff that is completely the opposite.

            • .. this is not a thesis this is a comment forum; I’m making my argument, not his

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              That’s just the point. You are basing your argument on false information. If you want to criticize him for posting a link, fine. But do not then, by extension, pull other material out of context to try and prove there is something more sinister at play.

            • that is your opinion, based on a fews other recent comments the argument is still out on that one…. as far as I’m concerned there is something sinister at play… he has not removed the link; just look at April’s comment above and imagine she’s a student at GWU who just watched that ad and then reads her Dean’s tweet.

              so, no…. I’m not going to:

              ‘Back.Off’

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Sigh.

              How many times do I have to repeat this?

              I have no problem with criticism of what he said. I suggest you “Back. Off.” leaping to any other conclusions based on flimsy pretext. Specifically, your assertion that “wellness” was some sort of Scientology code word.

              Sheesh. Give it a rest.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Don’t know where you are getting the idea he is opposed to psychology. His mentor is Dr. David Jobes, a psychologist who specializes in suicide. As a college dean, this would be of special interest to Konwerski. More here:

      https://sites.google.com/site/cuajsplab/home/dr-jobes

      • so why would he go out of the way to actually post a link to scientology’s home site…. he’s a [minor] Dean…. can he really be that naive?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Yes, he can be that naive. Lots of people are when it come to LRH. His knowledge of LRH’s connection to GWU probably extends no further than that plaque. As a dean, he wants to promote in any way possible.

          Check and see if he routinely Tweets about other famous “alums.”

          He did promote LRH once before– in March, 2013. Hardly seems like an enthusiastic supporter. More like someone who needs a wake-up call.

          • as mentioned in my other comment… he’s obviously had a wake-up call judging by the amount of people who have used his handle in response tweets… Miss Tia sent him half a dozen! He’s since tweeted loads of comments so is obviously aware and chooses to keep the tweet there… directly linking scientology’s main site to his thousands of student followers. Excuse my French but fuck him!… he’s had a chance to remove it but keeps it up so fuck him! He’ll get a wake-up call midnight UK time tomorrow…. but here’s the deal… if he removes the post I’ll not post what I already have … fell free to tweet him yourself [or get a friend to do so] or let him know another way… considering you have his back why not go all in and fully protect him.

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Really? After telling me that I have no “right” to tell you what to do, you are appointing yourself to tell this guy what he may and may not keep in his Twitter feed?

              Really?

            • Yep, you started with a direct command

              “Back. Off”

              … of course you have a “right” to say what you like buy I read that as an aggressive command… if you’d have prefaced it with “I would suggest” and not put the full stop between the two words then the whole tone would be different.

              As far as I’m concerned this guy has made a conscious decision to keep the post there [or not remove it].. ergo I have a right to tell him what I think about that.

              I just tweeted him this (see pic) so I will have no problem highlighting my thoughts and showcasing some of the comments here tomorrow on my blog.

            • Frodis73

              Hey ML. After a bit more digging on my end. That guy (his mentor) seem like a legit psych. I have no clue why he is not acknowledging his huge mistake about LRH earlier…he’s tweeted a lot after that and as you know, was raked over the coals. Maybe he won’t remove it or say something until a superior says something. Those ppl seemed pissed. He does seem to have a legitimate interest in mental health, etc. So, I’m on the fence about whether he’s a clam or not…the pro psych thing says no. A fawning post over lrh says yes. However, I have run into ppl that really don’t know jack about him, even though they know scientology is a scary cult. They think he is a very famous, respected writer..or that there are millions of scientologists. As if!! Anyway, I say let’s see if any action is taken in the morning regarding that lrh post. He might just be that stupid…which is a shame and doesn’t say good things about GWU as he’s a freaking dean over there!! Fuck, I could be a dean if he’s one. Ha.
              eta-clarity, etc

            • Exactly… reposting my pic I replied to DDD with; I mean, if this guy is so excited and clued up about mental health and DOESN”T know about scientology’s take on it does he deserve to be in the responsible position he is?

              I know this sounds ridiculous but imagine if a student went to the link, took a test figuring it couldn’t be a problem as her fucking Dean sent her the link and then gets trapped and enrolled!

              I mean, there’s naive and then there’s an enabler… he must know by now.

              edit forgot pic… see below or above for it as a response to DDD

    • Chocolate Velvet

      I replied to the tweet, and looked at some other replies. There are some complaints from alumni and students. One asked him why he would brag about this. His response was just “#knowledge”. That strikes me as odd, and certainly leaves me wondering. That’s a clam type of response, IMO. If he is just ignorant, he also seems completely unwilling to discuss it.

      I don’t know what this guy’s problem is. Maybe he’s a cutie, maybe not. However, this idea that a scientologist would not be associated with a psychologist is just not based in reality. Not every one in the cult has an irrational aversion to the profession. Ron did, and his cult espouses a superstitious fear and angry indictment of the evil psychs and their medications. Somehow, he wound up taking vistaril anyway.

      • as I’ve replied elsewhere the thing that really bugs me about this is this scenario:

        hey, the Dean’s tweeted a link about scientology and Hubbard… how bad can it be if the Dean’s giving me this link… ooh, look a personality test… they want my phone number, no problem etc etc ; if I was at uni and my Dean tweeted a link I would 100% click on it. How much of a dumbass does he have to be to not realise this possibility.

  • April Moonlight

    Here is something scary. I am having a hard time writing this, but I feel I need to. I didn’t watch the game, but I have seen both of the commercials on TV, as Scn has been running them in my area (SanFran Bay Area, CA) since mid-December. I’m a long-time Tony Ortega-Bunker fan, have read many books about Scn, think very highly of Jefferson Hawkins, Chris Shelton, Marc Headley, and other ex-Scn members, and feel such respect and admiration for them to have come out of that situation, and to tell their stories to try to help others. I know that Scientology is a dangerous cult and disconnection is an awful policy that ruins families and lives. But here is the scary part…. despite knowing all I do and being firm in my convictions against Scn, every time I see the first commercial, (the one that morphs the science and religion into scientology), I find myself feeling intrigued, and my reaction is along the lines of, hey, that looks interesting, I wonder what all that’s about, maybe I should take a look at their website… scary, huh? So the commercials are effective towards a certain small group of people, like me. I am actually embarrassed to admit this, with all I know about Scientology, their human rights abuses, harmful policies and history of illegal acts, yet still, despite this, when I see the advertising – I become intrigued and curious and… well, interested in it. I apologize! I don’t want to have that reaction. But it draws me in. I guess I am one of the more gullible people out there. I feel bad about this. ๐Ÿ™

    • Robert Eckert

      They hired top-notch advertising professionals who know how to create an enticing spot.

      • Some of them possibly even majored in psychology. Heh.

        • Nat-lificent

          ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      But would your intrigue and interest lead you to join? Or just lead you to examine what they have to say? Bear in mind that very few people today will look at a single web site when investigating something new.

      By all means, check out every angle. Don’t rely on the Bunker as a single source. Don’t rely on Scientology.com as a single source.

      You’ll be fine.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Don’t feel bad. There is a reason that lieterally thousands of intelligent people got fleeced by the organization. There are some gems in Ron’s work, but nothing that you couldn’t piece together from elsewhere (that’s most of what he did anyway,) and certainly nothing worth enduring the tortures that the organization reaps upon its adherents. So, look on with intrigue, pick what pieces you can from the rubble, and never set foot in an Org.

    • edge

      Don’t feel bad. The ads, if nothing else, are slickly produced. Scientology itself was created in the 50s, and that was a time when people were trying to explore new ideas about life, especially having just gone through a long, brutal war. From its very inception it has hit that curiosity button well. I myself have always had this strange fascination with their testimonial videos that have people saying they can “smell Ron’s ink” or that they are somehow now smart enough to put a satellite in space. But thanks to all those who got out and to journalists like Tony we know that the real happenings in Scn are much different than what they project.

    • California

      Dear April Moonlight: Hang in there. You are responding to the very first enticements. AND you are questioning your own reactions and checking them out in a very safe space. HERE.
      I work full-time plus so even though I am in the northern section of the greater Bay Area I have only seen one commercial.. on KPIX. They may be super-saturating the silicon valley part of the SF Bay Area. The differences in the locales in terms of media can be large.

      Hang in there, keep posting and welcome to the Bunker. How long have you been around SF?

    • Todd Tomorrow

      I’m in the Bay Area at least once a week for work. I sit across from that beautiful building and watch the same pathetic people walk in. They should have left it in the Tenderloin because nobody in the financial area gives them anything but a sneer. People in SF tend to be sharp and I’ve not seen any more saps going in there. I’m not worried about SF. What worries me is a new cult that is popping up in, Mt. View. I’m no longer in touch(he moved) but his partner was an ER Dr.and broke up with him because my work buddy wouldn’t attend these,”meetings.” I can’t remember the name, however, it didn’t seem like a front $cion group.

    • coonellie

      Most of us want to make the world a better place. The ad plays on a person’s natural desire to become a better person and make a difference. It also appeals to our inherent laziness.

      By that, I mean, the age-old lie that there’s a “science” or “method” that will guarantee success. That’s the easy way (laziness) – no messy, uncomfortable, and uncertain outcomes and/or failures.

      Of course it intrigued you! Nothing like wanting to avoid the hard work of self-improvement :).

    • The Dude

      I was the same way. The more you read about Hubbard. The more you will see the lies and paranoia that are behind the glitz and wonder. Look at both sides but keep an open mind about both of those sides. Ask questions. I have no god. And I like it that way. Not everyone can do that. But don’t be afraid to ask. That is when they get you to not think for yourself.

    • Nat-lificent

      It is a pretty idea — to know everything. It used to interest me too. But it’s a lie.

      • Frodis73

        That is a perfect answer and sums up exactly how I feel…kinda like if it sounds too good to be true, it is.

        • Nat-lificent

          And I totally get where April Moonlight is coming from. I used to always want to go inside weird secretive buildings and join weird clubs but my parents would stop me and when I was older I had an inkling that if it looks to good to be true, best to examine it from every angle, closely and for as long as you want till you decide how you feel.

    • cathy from encino

      Yes, the ads are well-produced and designed to intrigue.

      The ad aired just after the game ended here in Mountain View, CA (home of Google). I believe Tony mentioned it airing in the “Bay Area” but looks like it was placed differently in different markets. Another poster mentioned the ad not appearng north of SF. There’s also the issue of cable versus antenna, and the Super Bowl party I was at used good old-fashioned VHF or whatever replaced it when it went digital.

      Mountain View hasn’t finished their Idle Morgue yet.

    • Scream Nevermore

      The ads are designed to intrigue and pull people in. Miss Cabbage pays a lot of money to make sure they’re like that. The good thing is that you can ignore the twinge of interest, and come back to the Bunker to talk about it. I worry about those who don’t have anyone to talk them out of following their curiosity in that direction, mind you.

  • Oddly enough, Scientology ads turn up regularly during a local station’s 7 PM airings of “Jeopardy!” (I live in the Bay Area.) That’s always struck me as a strange ad buy. “Who is Xenu, Alex?”

    • California

      Never saw it up here in the North Bay.

      • It’s possible that they may be buying time on cable systems. I saw via Twitter that San Francisco got the Super Bowl ad far earlier in the game than we did over in the East Bay. I’m not sure how ad buys work, but I was surprised that everyone in the Bay Area didn’t see the SB ad at the same time.

        • California

          As you know, the SF Bay Area is huge, comprising all nine counties from Napa to the far north and silicon valley (Santa Clara & San Mateo) to the south. I fear that I was sounding pedantic trying to tell the east coasters how very different all the nine counties are in terms of television and radio media…. not even mentioning cable. In terms of media there really is no such thing as the SF Bay Area…. it is which sections of the SF Bay Area are seeing what and at which times? Since paying local prices is so much cheaper for scn/dm, it seems he tried to saturate SF and silicon valley, leaving the rest of us (north and east) in relative peace.

          • I had no idea — I figured a “local ad buy” meant an ad would run on, say, KGO (ABC) or KNTV (NBC). I didn’t realize until today that advertisers could get that granular in their buys, but I guess it makes sense. The things you learn in the Bunker!

    • April Moonlight

      trow125, stranger still than being shown during Jeopardy, one was shown during “The Wendy Williams” show. (yes, I was watching that show) lol :p I have lots to be embarrassed about it seems.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Someone at RTC is postulating an SOS by recommending “Jeopardy” as an ad buy.

  • Lady Squash

    Love the mocking of the ad. My favorite: “Whoever approved the Scientology commercial, needs to be forced to join Scientology” — Paul Mau But still, the world is full of the gullible. It’s a slick ad, they could sadly be taken in. I’m just saying…

  • SciWatcher

    You know what would be fun? To create and air an anti-scientology ad during next year’s superbowl, addressing and nullifying all of scientology’s claims, in all the markets that the “church” does. Just imagine Miscavige’s reaction! Maybe if we start now, we could raise enough money on Go Fund Me. That is, if the “church” is even around next year.

    • Todd Tomorrow

      We need a Whale!

    • Suppressive Tomato

      For this project, I volunteer free, professional copywriting, a proficiency with Ron’s Tech Dictionary, moderate familiiarity with HCO PLs and HCO Bs (and access to them for reference,) and an unrestrained sarcasm on the subject.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Do it.

      I’ll both donate and work on it. Pro film-maker.

    • Frodis73

      That would be so awesome, but I don’t even think the Bunker could raise that kind of cash. If I win the lotto (I don’t play, so I won’t! LOL) I will totally buy the air time.

      • Robert Eckert

        You could still find the winning Lotto ticket on the sidewalk! It’s about as good a chance as you buying it.

  • coonellie

    Sort of off topic, but I rarely post anymore, so whilst I’m taking my tea break…

    I love supporting my local library. I know the names of everyone who works there and I’m forever getting into conversations about book choices. I also communicate with the library’s buyer for adult non-fiction. Guess what’s on the list for purchase (and who’s first on the list to get it)? Yep, The Unbreakable Miss Lovely!

    And, I live in whale central, so this is a good thing. You’d be surprised at the paucity of Scientology-related materials in the county library system where I am. When I first read Blown for Good I had to get it through interlibrary loan (thanks Marc and Claire for the bonus copy at Christmas!!!). Same with Jeff Hawkin’s book. So, I’m really pleased about Tony’s book coming to the local library :).

    • PalaceAthena

      Good job! I’m giving you two bunker cookies for that. Not only will you get to read Tony’s book first but others in your area can read it when you are done.

  • California

    THE SUPER BOWL 50 IS GOING TO BE IN SILICON VALLEY, JUST SOUTH OF SF, NEXT YEAR.
    BUNKERITES, WE NEED TO BE PREPARED……

  • Tony said “Tomorrow morning we have something very different, something we’ve been working on for quite a while. We hope you like it!

    Question – What is the degree of difference and what kind of different we are talking about?

    • Nat-lificent

      “What is the degree of difference and what kind of different we are talking about?”

      I know, right. Lately we have had happy celebratory stories about the docu and old document and video leaks and of course, Jon Atack. What kind of different? Will it make us sad? Also, what has he been working on? Barbara Cordova? That other missing girl? Serge Obolensky?

      • Or Tony acquired more cats?

        • Mark Foster

          or a fretless bass? ๐Ÿ™‚

          • or a fretless dog?

            • Mark Foster

              Dogs tend to come that way, yes? ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Yes! Here is another one… ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Frodis73

              Omg, who would of thought of a dog as guitar. I love it.

            • All kinds of related goofiness here: http://bassdogs.tumblr.com/

            • Frodis73

              Sweet Xenu, I must go to bed, but that site is hilarious. Can’t.Stop.Looking.

            • Mark Foster

              Gerald Veasely, another excellent bassist… ๐Ÿ™‚

            • LongtimeLurker

              That dog’s had its frets shooped out.

              You can tell by the pixels.

            • Good eye!

          • TheQueenofBulgravia

            Or a baseless fret. (Hello Mark!)

  • PalaceAthena

    Mostly off-topic, but… AP story: Two cult members executed in China for McDonald’s murder

    http://bigstory.ap.org/article/57ebc23cd49d460b9b43c2aa8237f461/2-cult-members-executed-china-mcdonalds-murder

  • Apollo

    Speaking of libraries, I saw on the sec check website that the C0$ is going to be at the local public (Orange County, CA) library new week. I am sick about it. Can you imagine sending your kid the the library and the next thing you know… ugh! Any suggestion on what can be done about this? Thanks

    https://seccheck.wordpress.com/2015/01/31/tustin-public-library-welcomes-scientology-foundation-for-a-drug-free-world

    • Frodis73

      I would innocently contact the library and find out who was responsible for bringing the group in to lecture. The library might have a clam on staff and if you complain to that person then nothing will get done. Search the scientology completions list (,http://www.truthaboutscientology.com/stats/by-name/) google their associations and ask here to see if this person might be a clam. If they are then you need to go over this persons head to the next person in command to register a complaint. They are sneaky when getting into public venues…so I wouldn’t just call the library and complain to the head librarian…I’d do some snooping around first.

      • Apollo

        I thought of sending them an email and including links to the wiki page for “Foundation for a Drug Free World” along with links to the OC Weekly articles from 2012 when the Santa Ana Police stopped handing out their propaganda. Maybe I could contact the OC Weekly to see if they’d be interested. Thanks
        ETA: I’ll take your advice and now call first.

        • Frodis73

          Oh yeah, you can def email too. You just want to make sure you don’t email the person that invited them to come (if they are in on it) or your complaint will go nowhere. Lol.

          • Apollo

            I already assume that the complaint will go nowhere. Either the person responsible supports the group or is incompetent to not have searched for information about them. And this at a library no less… Gah!

            • Frodis73

              Yeah, that is why I try to find out who is over that person all the way up to the top of the chain. CC all of them and remind them it could be ugly PR. Even tweeting both the library and your local paper and tv news stations would be good. They sure as hell don’t want a tv camera showing up asking questions about why they have a cult teaching kids. Good luck and keep us posted. We love following stuff like this.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          OC Weekly. Definitely.

          2975 Red Hill Avenue, Suite 150, Costa Mesa, CA 92626
          Phone: 714-550-5900
          Fax: 714-550-5908
          Email: http://www.ocweekly.com/feedback/EmailAnEmployee?department=letters

          • Apollo

            Thanks. It looks like the guy who was on the CO$ beat in 2012 is gone but I’ll call them anyway to see it they are interested in story ideas.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Couldn’t hurt to go straight to the Tustin City Council with your concerns:

        Mayor Charles E. โ€œChuckโ€ Puckett
        cpuckett@tustinca.org

        Mayor Pro Tem John Nielsen
        jnielsen@tustinca.org

        Council Members
        Rebecca โ€œBeckieโ€ Gomez
        rgomez@tustinca.org

        Al Murray
        amurray@tustinca.org

        Allan Bernstein
        abernstein@tustinca.org

        Beckie Gomez serves on the Orange County Library Advisory Board. She has a Bachelor of Science degree from the UCLA School of Public Health and a Master of Science degree in Healthcare Administration from Long Beach State University. She has held various management and consulting positions in hospitals, ambulatory clinics and a national home health agency.

        Dr. Allan Bernstein holds a B.A. from Boston University, and an M.B.A. from the Healthcare Executive Program at the University of California at Irvine, and has been a healthcare consultant since 1998.

        Al Murray is a past law enforcement professional and police lieutenant with 35 years of experience, and is a recipient of the Irvine Police Departmentโ€™s highest honor, the Medal of Valor.

        • Apollo

          I’m actually not a resident of Tustin but a nearby city. However we can use the county library in Tustin and other OC cities. I did search for the names of the library staff as shown on the library website (on the truth in scientology website) but found no matches.

    • Frodis73

      Bam! Check Triple D’s list below, there are some awesome contacts on it for you!

  • Zana

    With all those false statistics in their ads, can’t they be sued or something for false advertising? It’s so blatant. Can’t they be forced to prove their statistics?

    • LongtimeLurker

      They can in certain countries.

      Not sued exactly but forced to change their ads.

      Australia and the UK have similar systems I believe.

      You put a complaint in writing, if the advertiser doesn’t respond to your liking you then take the issue to an ombudsman (or equivalent).

      If they receive enough complaints they investigate.

      If the investigation proves that their ads are misleading they get a fine, must remove and/or change the ads and there’s a bunch of bad press.

      It could be worth doing, in those countries at least.

      Canada might have a similar set-up, at a guess.

      • Mark Foster

        love your avatar ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Zana

          Thank you. It makes me happy. So glad you noticed.

          • Mark Foster

            Zana, I like yours, too! I was commenting on Lurkerยดs avatar initially…

            • Zana

              Oh… uphs. LOL. Sorry. Okay… I love the painting my Avatar came from. It makes me happy.

              Glad to meet you out here.

        • LongtimeLurker

          Such generous souls here.

          Thank you.

          Honestly, I was worried people would think it was obvious and lame.

          • Mark Foster

            Nah, it made me laugh! Some of the art work on the early Dianetics and Scio stuff was pretty cheesy…

          • Nat-lificent

            No. It’s cool!

            • LongtimeLurker

              You’re all cool!

      • Zana

        Who do we make the complaint to? Do that have that here in the U.S.? Like an Attorney General’s office? Would it make sense for a lot of us here at the Bunker to write complaints about the misleading statistics in the ads?

        • LongtimeLurker

          Zana, I’ll look into this overnight (here in Australia) and do a write up of the process for the US, UK and Australia.

          If you can wait that long.

          How does that sound?

          • Graham

            In the UK it’s the Advertising Standards Authority. But no Scieno ads here. The ASA is very strict about advertisers being able to back up their claims. Hence the atheist bus campaign a couple of years ago adding the word ‘probably’ to their slogan ‘There’s probably no god…’ as a precaution so they didn’t get challenged.

            • LongtimeLurker

              As an atheist, I’m comfortable with that.

              I mean, I’m sure there isn’t, but “probably” is close enough.

              I’m going to look into their Community TV “show” here.

              Because if it’s the same episode over and over…

              And if they’re paying for the slot…

              Surely that falls under advertising.

          • Zana

            Great. thank you. Because the statistics are all made up. Misleading. I can understand them getting away with it in their own tent to a bunch of KoolAid drinkers… however on national television? Especially in light of the abuse that Tony exposed this morning (Monday) about that poor girl held in the basement. !

            • LongtimeLurker

              I’m still on this Zana.

              Had to deal with some IRL stuff.

        • Sydjazz

          Actually there is one for the u.s i remember seeing a website of complaints

        • Sydjazz
        • Frodis73

          I’m pretty sure in the US nobody cares…only if it’s something medical or in food for safety. Which sucks as scientology is very dangerous.

      • Sydjazz

        We don’t get scion ads anymore (downunder) too many complained

        • LongtimeLurker

          I didn’t realise that had worked.

          I assumed they’d scaled back and I was just missing the ads.

          • Sydjazz

            I haven’t seen any for years. However if you are lucky enough to live in melbourne they have a show on channel31. (Community tv )

            • LongtimeLurker

              Scientology or Hillsong?

              I’m confused.

              And I do consider myself lucky to live in Melbourne ; )

            • Ella Raitch

              Love Melbourne – hopefully have another short trip there this year.

            • Sydjazz

              Me too i wanna go lurk at the scion building

            • LongtimeLurker

              I had to drive past it twice a day for a year.

              That’s what got me back into Sci-watching.

            • LongtimeLurker

              You wanna go get a coffee?

              “all are welcome” says the sign that isn’t in this photo dammit;

            • Ella Raitch

              I wanted to check out the Scientology buildings last time but my husband wouldn’t be in it (he still thinks I’m a bit crazy, but the Gibney doco is starting to turn that around ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Sydjazz

              Scientology. Sunday mornings. I love melbourne. Here is a link. http://www.c31.org.au/program/view/program/scientology-tv

        • Ella Raitch

          Do any religions advertise? I know religious charities (e.g. Vinnies) might advertise funding drives, but not sure I’ve ever seen a religion advertise, then I am regional. What about gropus like Hillsong?

          • Sydjazz

            Oh good old hillsong. Seen vinnies ads. But nup hillsong not til the wee hours of the morning

          • Frodis73

            I remember seeing a few here and there for the Methodist church years back, but in general I don’t think they do.

      • Zana

        It might be an interesting thing for us to orchestrate. I’m sure having hundreds of complaints will be better than having one or two.. or six or seven. This is something we could do together that could count…along with what Tony and Alex and Mike and Larry are all doing. And Chris. Etc.

  • Sydjazz

    I like this one

  • Sydjazz

    Oh what about some free pizza at celeb centre?

    • They will be sending this person tons of mail from now on over that free slice of pizza.
      Hoping she just ate pizza and left. They still counted her as a stat though. False stat it is.

      • Sydjazz

        Thats one expensive slice

    • Scream Nevermore

      Silly woman. There’s ‘free’ and there’s ‘Scientology free’, and they bear no resemblance to each other.

  • Frodis73

    Attn iBetty and please forgive me, but I cannot remember who else wrote the the LAPD regarding Lt. Dawson and his involvement with the church and being head of the human trafficking committee.

    So, I emailed them to remind them and find out any new information. Keep in mind that the answer I got from one Julie Buchwald said that they were taking this very seriously as they had many complaints and that she was forwarding it to the Inspector General and the Asst Inspector General.
    Well, this is the newest reply:
    Yes, I recall this issue. I do not believe any complaint was ever filed. You are more than welcome to file one if you would like with Internal Affairs. Their phone numberis 1-800-339-6868.
    Good luck.
    Julie Buchwald

    I emailed her and thanked her but asked if she knew why it wasn’t looked into or was ignored. I also stated that I understood she may not be able to answer that either…anyway interesting stuff.

    So, if anybody wants to complain about the shady relationship between the two, please call 1 800 339 6868 AND email them at communityrelationsoig@lacity.org

    If you need a refresher, here is Tony’s story on the whole mess:
    http://tonyortega.org/2014/12/14/scientology-sunday-funnies-whats-a-little-human-trafficking-between-friends/

  • Frodis73

    Ignore!

    • TheQueenofBulgravia

      We had your previous post translated from Inter-ga-LAX-y to Engrish, and totally agree!

  • TheQueenofBulgravia

    In defense of Peter Konwerski: Unless he is a $cibot ???….He was going on the information he had from GWU. GWU has a room honouring LRH. With a $hiny plaque! So Peter was reflecting this “official” GWU Pride. On the other hand, he is just a young guy who doesn’t know the ugly truth behind the $ci Hype. It is obvious when we (collectively) were his age, we didn’t know the lies either or most of us SPs would not be Bunkeroos.

    Peter Konwerski @GWPeterK
    #Scientology Founded by @GWAlumni L. Ron Hubbard. #SuperBowl #onlyatGW #GWU
    http://Scientology.com

    http://tonyortega.org/2015/01/24/first-time-in-full-1997-interview-of-barbara-klowden-l-ron-hubbards-pr-agent-and-lover/comment-page-1/
    Tony Ortega: “This is not the first time this has been brought to our attention โ€” that thereโ€™s a room at George Washington University dedicated to L. Ron Hubbard, an “alumnus” who dropped out his sophomore year after failing a class in “molecular and atomic physics” (which didnโ€™t prevent him from claiming to be one of the countryโ€™s first “nuclear physicists”). Maybe someone at GWU could look into how much cold cash the Church of Scientology had to pay for this little geegaw.”

    http://tonyortega.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/HubbardGWU.jpg

    • Good point. Still though, is he leaving under the rock? Or has 2 shells?
      I bet they infiltrated/paid GWU for that room/$hiny plaque and that tweet.

      • Graham

        As a Brit I know nothing about GWU. Is it a real, respected uni or is it some kind of diploma mill?

          • Graham

            I see it’s possible to study medicine there. They also have a School of Nursing. Presumably it’s possible to graduate from there as a psychologist and probably also to graduate as a psychiatrist. What is going on?!

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Not a whole lot. A dean from GWU posted a really stupid Tweet tonight about a famous “alum” (LRH!), and some here are going a bit far in their response. Criticism is absolutely warranted, but there’s not a scintilla of evidence that the guy is a secret Scientologist.

            • that’s not the issue and you know it

            • It deserves more attention, however.

        • Two of my very good friends studied there and I went with their family to one of them’s graduation so I have a bit of a personal investment here.

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Ahem.

          GWU is a major, major institution. We also have connections there.

      • he’s had loads of messages since he tweeted the link “explaining” the cult… he’s chosen to keep the direct link to scientology up knowing full well that a good percentage of his 6000 [predominantly student] followers are likely to click it – he’s essentially endorsed it. Can you imagine how many might decide to take a personality test, or even go further… these are young kids and no matter what we know we can’t say that ALL young people are clued up to the cult. He should be ashamed at not removing it.

        • 100% agree. He is basically endorsing scientology at this point.

          • this is my very latest tweet to him

            • this is the actual tweet which shows the list of people I sent it to…. just noticed Chocolate’s typo…. unless she really does think he’s a cutie, lol [wonder if he’ll work it out himself, ed]

          • TheQueenofBulgravia

            We sad. I had hope it was unknowingness.

            • We sad too. Mentioning L.Ron as a famous student is one thing, linking it to scientology website is entirely another. It’s “knowing how to know”, I am afraid.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              “Infamous” Well, We (Royal) woke every one up! ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • TheQueenofBulgravia

          If he’s not modifying, sadly, door #2 is deliberateness.

    • LongtimeLurker

      Well I started polite with him.

      Just suggesting that he correct “alumnus” since LRH had dropped out.

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        Hi LL, but…but…It’s on that plague/plaque!!! ….. Coyly, Queen asks again, “Why do you want to know if We like gladiator movies?” ……then Queen asks fretfully, “Has my indefensible defense of Peter spoiled the Our prospects of Dinner and a gladiator movie?” We sad.

        • LongtimeLurker

          No, sorry, my bad.

          Your defense of Petey was actual a valid possibility I hadn’t considered.

          Anyway, the gladiator thing is a quote from the same place as your “don’t call me Shirley” so I assumed you knew it and were just being funny when you asked “why?”

          I just discovered I was misquoting – here’s the video;

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eeNsPE5XUXA

          • LongtimeLurker

            I’m not sure if there is actually a good gladiator movie, other than Gladiator.

            I’ll see what I can find.

            Shall I bring a dish?

            • Douglas D. Douglas

              Uh… Spartacus???

            • LongtimeLurker

              Well, great film, but only the first half is about gladiating.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              SO…..We are not enough dish for you and you want to bring a Sheila?

            • LongtimeLurker

              No, no!

              I meant sweetbreads or petit fours.

              I should have said “a plate”.

          • TheQueenofBulgravia

            There WERE other Gladiators before Russel Crowe! We were actually there (quote: “You are there!” “You are there!”) during the original, original and then subsequently, enjoyed THIS wonderful coloured moving picture re-enactment ….in not only Cinemascopeness, but Stereo Tech! Maybe it’s on the list at the Elsternwick?

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?x-yt-cl=85114404&v=0ho0snwCj44&x-yt-ts=1422579428&feature=player_embedded

            https://cms.kics.com.au/UserContent/c9c1a788-efc7-429e-b97a-d7cd6f3eb7a1/images/classic.jpg

            • Scream Nevermore

              I liked The Fall of the Roman Empire. And what about Spartacus – surely the ultimate gladiator movie??

            • LongtimeLurker

              As a film buff, and half Italian, I assure Your Majesty I am familiar with these sword & sandal epics.

              I have enjoyed, and own, many of them, including Demetrius.

              I was merely concerned they wouldn’t satisfy Your Majesty’s refined taste.

              I had no idea you were touring Melbourne, I assumed you were writing from Bulgravia.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              We are virtually a World Taveller. ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • LongtimeLurker

              A dearth of gladiatorial cinema.

              The Elsternwick, The Astor, The Westgarth and The Sun seem very committed to NOT showing a single gladiator movie.

              I have failed Your Majesty.

              The Bunker.

              And myself.

            • TheQueenofBulgravia

              Arise Longtimeious, You have not failed Us, Us or Use. Your head is bloody but unbowed. You live on to fight another day!

    • Baby
      • Baby

        As a Side note: I typed in alumni.. then RLHubbard ( one word) and it said.. ” Do you mean Rhubarb?”

        and I thought in my head..” Yeah he was a REAL Rhubarb alright..

        • beauty for ashes

          Missed you ! too tired to make sense. F5 for cuteness

          • Baby

            Awwwwwwwwwww… I missed you too Beauty.. I have had a beautiful day.. It was 80 degrees today and I just enjoyed it..

            I didn’t watch the Super Bowl ..I was outside in the sun.. but I came here and enjoyed the recaps and tweets..

            Cute Kitteh..so sweeeeeet

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      (Just don’t let Media Lush find out.)

      • and now you’re escalating this bs by behaving like a troll [and ftr I upvoted this post]

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          If everyone here who teased another long time member was a troll, we’d all have to move under a bridge…

      • TheQueenofBulgravia

        (She did! @@) ….We have moved Our Throne to the Naughty Mat in the Naughty Corner and are Properly chastened. Chastened and Chaste as Behooves Our Position as Pearl E. Gates, Mother Superior of the Frizbeetarian Sisters Of Chastity, Re-Virginated. …..but We ARE entertaining an Interesting “proposition” from LongLurker, she said coyly!

  • beauty for ashes

    Psst Baby, I saw you lurking in the comments.
    (((((((hugs)))))

    • Baby

      Oh you never know when I’m snooping beauty..xoxox

  • Scream Nevermore

    Oh gods, I need more sleep! But that was a Super Bowl worth staying to the end for!

  • Jack99

    Jim Gaffigan talks briefly of being in a scientologist improv group in the Marc Maron podcast, 44 minutes in:
    http://www.wtfpod.com/

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +โ€“+** RED X ** +โ€“+ RED X *** Monday the 2nd of February

    Good morning Night Owls and Early Birds,
    The score for yesterday, 76 new/refreshed ads bringing the Last 4 Days DOWN from 420 to 343 and the 7 days Regional List EVEN at 679
    RedX write up : https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-117#post-2494321
    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml
    For those who do not have much time but would like to send a message to Tony Chen do Sacramento in
    the Regional list TAB of the RedX spreadsheet. (see link above).

    1. Concentrate on your region and /or your adopted regions.(The closer to home the better).
    2. Use the reboot router method to acquire a new IP,
    3. Do not do the blues only, RE-FLAG the previous days.

    FREELOADER Debt is ILLEGAL and CANโ€™T BE ENFORCED.
    DONโ€™T route out, BLOW, Get HELP, get OUT. CALL 1-866-XSEAORG

    EYES by Bob Kรฅre & flickred by AP: https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/15648252933/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Good morning, Pierrot

      • Pierrot

        Good morning Dodo, did you enjoy the SuperBowl?

    • Graham

      Nashville has FOURTEEN counter-ads. Way ta go Nashville!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • Nat-lificent

    Could tomorrow’s post be about Jillian Schlesinger?

    • I think it will be something none of us is thinking about.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Monty Python, “And now for something completely different”.

  • Weather alert…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      First morning funny. Tks.

    • Ella Raitch

      One thing Captain Miscavige can be sure of…there’s going to be a heartache tonight

    • NOLAGirl

      Bahahahaha!! Love this Dodo. ๐Ÿ™‚ Very funny.

      • I stole it from one of my dear FB friend’s wall ๐Ÿ™‚

  • 0tessa

    ‘Whoever approved the scientology commercial, needs to be forced to join scientology.’
    Quote of the day.

    • “I just accidentally joined scientology” is pretty funny too.

      • hansje brinker

        Or this one: “you don’t join Scientology, Scientology joins you.”

  • Sydjazz

    That ad was laughable.lol

  • Mark Foster
  • Ella Raitch

    Just watching the half time show now….all in all I think I prefer Eurovison

    http://youtu.be/lnqyNXJFkQU

    • Scream Nevermore

      So fed up with these mini gigs by people I just don’t like – plus it’s longer for me to have to fight against the need to sleep, being in the UK and struggling with the time difference. I mean, I woke up from a dream that Wilson didn’t give the ball to Lynch when they were right on the goal line…oh, wait…

  • seriouslyWTF

    https://myjeremy.wordpress.com/2015/02/01/my-jeremy-is-home-to-stay/ Did anyone else post this? It was written yesterday.

    • Nice to see a happy update to a happy resolution!

      • seriouslyWTF

        Yes indeed..

      • Scream Nevermore

        The difference between a just-blown Jeremy and the one pictured at the end of the blog is quite incredible.

    • Robert Eckert

      The original story for those new to the Bunker:

      http://tonyortega.org/2014/07/04/scientologys-disconnection-policy-foiled-as-jeremy-powers-reunites-with-his-family/

      Excellent to see the details.

    • ze moo

      “He told me he had not been truly happy since he left and that it had
      come to the point that the depression was literally killing him. He
      told me the only way he made it this long was to just stop ALL emotions
      and thoughts.”

      The emotion stopping, do it all for Lron stuff is what $cientology is all about. Good for Jeremy escaping.

  • Hilarious comments. Is there any doubt that the vast majority of the world that has eyes and can use a computer knows that $cientology is a wrecked trainload of bullshit?

    • Mark Foster

      Damn, a WRECKED trainload of bullshit…Heh! Yes, the stank is ubiquitous!

    • Tracy Schmitz

      no doubt whatsover! literally every single person i come into contact with, whether family, friends, co-workers, strangers who i chat up with somewhere whenever somehow, scientology comes up, i get 100% laughter and a litany of negative thoughts. but now in 2015, it’s not enough that everyone laughs at them, everyone needs to know they are not a strictly laughable cult, but abusive and yes, chocked full of illegal and abusive activity..

  • Paul Copercini

    There are people who are attracted to the fabricated realities that are
    promoted because the lie has become the truth, from the data to the
    e-meter, but that will drift away.

  • ze moo

    My spies report that the ‘age of noreason’ ad played in Buffalo NY. Loud laughter was the result.

    There are several things about the 30 second spot that I noticed. At the end the ‘Spiritual Technology’ words flashed up, but then, the ‘Scientology dot org’ words appeared near the bottom of the screen in a much smaller font. My spies wondered if they were really trying to hide the ownership of the commercial. No meat in that mystery sandwich.

    As multiple showings of the 2 commercials have been noted in LA and Tampa, I really get a ‘playing to the choir’ demographic. Everyone else just got more pizza and wings.

  • Paul Copercini

    THE CHURCH OF SCIENTOLOGY PERSONS WHO RE AFFILIATED WITH AND MEMBERS OF THESE *ORGS* ARE NO HELP CASE CRIMINALS USING FALSE DATA IN A FALSE RELIGION.

  • DeFactYo

    Why do all $scientology commercials look as if the video has been stolen from a stock image house? The sad fact is that this expensive commercial will change the minds of ZERO people. No exaggeration. Zero point Zero.

  • J. Paul Zoccali

    What many people don’t realize is that the “Scientology Cross,” shown above in a heavenly-looking silhouette, quite clearly evokes Christianity. A cross with a bottom section longer than the others is modeled after a crucifix. It is a centuries-old Christian symbol. A countless number of Christian crosses have various sorts of embellishments similar to and done long before the “Scientology Cross.” It’s amazing the Catholic Church has never sued, particularly considering LRH’s Occult ties and the fact that Scientology is very much anti-Christian. In fact, I suspect Scientology was designed to specifically compete with and attack Christianity under the guise of promising some of the same things such as eternal life, all the while abusing its members and ripping off most of the planet with scams and cons in the form of LRH’s many front companies. How many people does Scientology have to drive insane and ruin before people get it? My brother is a Scientologist who had me declared fair game. I spent much of my young adult life refereeing spats between him and our devout Catholic mothers. He’s fond of using the phrase, “Silly Christians.”

  • Waterhorse

    Fox News article on the APA American Psychiatric Assn. from May 2014

    “We in America face an epidemic of fictionโ€”manipulations of the truth on a scale never before known, fueled by technology and media. This epidemic threatens to rob us of ourselvesโ€”what we truly think and truly feel and truly know as fact. And this epidemic has clearly infected the American Psychiatric Association, which puts them on the wrong side of Truth, and puts patients at needless risk.”

    Dr. Keith Ablow is a psychiatrist and member of the Fox News Medical A-Team. Dr. Ablow can be reached at info@keithablow.com.

    Link
    http://www.foxnews.com/health/2012/05/14/be-wary-american-psychiatric-association/