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—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Monique Rathbun seeks sanctions, Scientology tries to kill Miscavige deposition in court today

The BBC's John Sweeney sets up today's court clash for us

The BBC’s John Sweeney sets up today’s court clash for us

Monique Rathbun is back in court today in New Braunfels, Texas for her harassment lawsuit against the Church of Scientology and its leader, David Miscavige. Several different issues may come up for discussion today. Monique filed a notice to depose David Miscavige on January 29, and Scientology responded with a motion to quash the deposition. Scientology also asked Judge Dib Waldrip to reconsider his order allowing Monique to depose Miscavige. But the main action today may be Monique’s motion for sanctions. She’s asking Judge Waldrip to punish Scientology because its employees, she says, have been dishonest in depositions and because Scientology has not turned over evidence.

In order to prove that Scientology must have a great deal of evidence after surveilling the Rathbuns for several years, Monique submitted a stunning collection of evidence from a previous case of Scientology spying. When BBC reporter John Sweeney came to the US to make a documentary about Scientology in 2007, he was followed and harassed by the church. A striking set of text messages documented that harassment operation, and we expect that evidence to be a key subject of discussion in court today. For more about those texts, we’re fortunate to have a piece written for us by John Sweeney himself. As for the hearing, we have Nick Rogers and Mike Bennitt delivering us accounts and photos of the action. Live updates will appear at the bottom of the post.

 
In Texas, battle royal is taking place in a courtroom between lawyers representing the ‘Pope’ of the Church of Scientology, David Miscavige, and Monique Rathbun, the wife of Marty Rathbun, the former Inspector-General of the Church and now one of the pope’s most feared critics.

At issue is whether Miscavige personally was involved in the harassment of Marty by private detectives working for the Church — and to get to the bottom of that, Marty’s old colleague, Mike Rinder, has turned over an extraordinary cache of BlackBerry messages dating back to 2007.

The texts go to and fro between the pope’s office, Rinder, and Tommy Davis, son of film actress Anne Archer, and reveal a black operation by the Church against our BBC Panorama investigation back then -– with me as the principal target. The texts are foully abusive, often absurd and show Pope Miscavige in a bleak light as a potty-mouthed psychopath.

Lamont Jefferson, the lawyer for the Pope and the Church, has informed the court that the texts are ‘purported’, adding: “even if authentic (again, a proposition that is hardly established) the most that these texts show is that someone gave instructions to Rinder and Davis in 2007 regarding activities in London England.”

Oh no they don’t. The texts cover events our Panorama team lived through in March 2007 in Florida and California. Lamont Jefferson’s response is oddly feeble — that the authenticity of the messages has hardly been established. My view, as the person at the centre of the texts, is that they are credible and authentic.

They appear to record in real-time a three-way conversation between Davis and Rinder and the Leader’s Communicator, Lou Stuckenbrock, about handling BBC Panorama. Taken together, they paint an extraordinarily weird picture of the Church.

On Saturday, March 17th, 2007, producer Sarah Mole, camera Bill Brown and I had dinner with husband and wife ‘heretics’ Donna Shannon and Mike Henderson, the evening concluding with Tommy and Mike waiting for us at our hotel at midnight. The first message is from Tommy to Lou on Sunday, March 18th, 2007 and is headed “Hotel debrief”: “Last night Mike [Rinder, looking gaunt and hollow-cheeked] and I went to Sweeney’s hotel around 10pm and called him and told him I was at his hotel and wanted to see him immediately. He hung up on me. I checked their rooms and found out that they were not at the hotel. We had Jesse Radstrom” — a black-clad cameraman — “with us from Gold to shoot it. Sweeney, Mole and their camera man showed up around 12:30am.

“He [Sweeney] said that he had never told me what hotel he was staying in and that means that we are spying on the BBC and that he thinks that is very weird. I said that is ridiculous and that this is a small town and Englishman with TV cameras stand out like mad and we saw them interviewing the Shannons and walking around flag with them so that is utterly nuts.

“I then started tearing into him (not swearing as the cameras were rolling) and the hotel manager asked us to step outside. We continued out there.

“I told him that I was shocked at the unprofessional and juvenile way in which he was conducting himself and this program… I then said that he had come all the way here to Clearwater and was offered a tour of our facilities, the largest most significant Church facilities in the world and yet declined an offer to see or tour those facilities and instead was spending his entire day with Donna Shannon and Mike Henderson, two ex-Scientologists with a clear axe to grind.

“During the confrontation in front of Sweeney’s hotel Sweeney said to me that Donna had told him that she did hard labor together with me when she was in the Sea Org and that she witnessed me get my hair pulled, my ears pulled and my face ripped off. This did not faze me at all and I calmly told him that I have no idea what she is talking about and that it is a complete and total lie and I could easily produce multiple witnesses to attest to that fact. He seemed somewhat shocked at hearing this.”

I do remember being taken aback — shocked seems to be over-egging the pud somewhat — at the force of Tommy’s denial that his hair and ears had been pulled and his immediate upgrading of the stakes, that he could provide multiple witnesses for his version of events against Donna’s. The striking thing is that this is a fine detail I would not have recalled had I not seen the messages.

“I kept at him about how disingenuous and disgusting this all was…”

Tommy referred back to our meetings in England and the dispute over whether they had set three conditions or not: “I told him that is not what I said and that he is again twisting what occurred in the meeting and that I would be happy to provide him with a transcript of what occurred as he may recall we recorded all of it. This seemed to shut him up.”

Neither Tommy nor the Church of Scientology ever did provide a transcript of the meetings in England. I remain un-shut up.

“At this point a CW [Clearwater] Police car showed up having been called by the hotel manager (she overreacted to our dueling cameras and heated discussion).”

The hotel manager was doing her job.

“The cop asked who we were. Sweeney said he was from the BBC and we never got a chance to say who we were… The officer came back out and said that the hotel would prefer that we disperse and not continue. I thanked him and said that is not a problem and that we work and live around here and certainly don’t want to disturb anyone. I turned to Sweeney and said ‘we are done’ and walked away. He called after me repeating out loud the demands that he has mocked up we made of him ‘that we won’t refer to you as a cult,’ ‘that we won’t interview critics’ and that was all.

“We continued surveilling them and saw that they did not leave for Vegas this morning.”

On the face of it, Tommy’s repeated denials of the Church of Scientology spying on the BBC were not true. He was lying.

“However it was so down to the wire with so limited flights that we did not want to take the chance of them flying out later in the day and getting to Vegas ahead of us. For this reason Mike [Rinder] and Kevin Caetano went ahead to Vegas and will be landing there in the next few hours. Kirsten and I are still here in CW and are actually now at Plant City where the new Test Center in opening. Sweeney is here.”

All of the messages from the Leader’s Office come from Lou, the Communicator, but in an extremely masculine tone that suggests they are the direct word of the Leader. The Communicator is always addressed as ‘Sir’ but this is standard policy, set down by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, that all higher ranks are addressed as ‘Sir’ even if they are female.

Why does the Church’s leader have his own personal Communicator, Lou Stuckenbrock? Why can’t he communicate himself? In 1977 the FBI raided the Church of Scientology and the investigation got very close to Mr Hubbard. His wife, Mary Sue Hubbard, ended up going to prison, so ex-members of the Church say that the role of the Communicator is a deliberately constructed cut-out. The messages read as if Miscavige says something, his word is recorded and transcribed and put into the third person, so there is always a measure of deniability. This use of a private office cut-out so that politicians, for example, can have plausible deniability is common practice in Westminster and Washington DC.

The rest of the conversation was posted in this blog recently, and can also be read in my book, The Church of Fear.

The evidence from the messages seems compelling, describing in detail, in real-time, an elaborate spying operation by the Church of Scientology against the BBC, tracking us across the United States, from our hotel in Clearwater to identifying an important ex-Scientologist source we interviewed in San Francisco to LA.

On Wednesday, March 21st, we spent the day as Tommy’s guest interviewing the stars at the Church’s Celebrity Centre. An anxious message came from the Communicator in the evening: ‘We are in LA now, are there any areas we should avoid? And is this guy’s body now many new (torn worn to wall) assholes?”

This is, some say, the word of the Church of Scientology.

John Sweeney is the author of Church Of Fear: Inside the Weird World of Scientology and North Korea Undercover: Inside the World’s Most Secret State.

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 22, 2014 at 07:00

E-mail your tips and story ideas to tonyo94@gmail.com or follow us on Twitter. We post behind-the-scenes updates at our Facebook author page. Here at the Bunker we try to have a post up every morning at 7 AM Eastern (Noon GMT), and on some days we post an afternoon story at around 2 PM. After every new story we send out an alert to our e-mail list and our FB page.

 

(Live updates will appear below this line)

10:02 am

We’ve heard from Nick Rogers and Mike Bennitt, who are in the courtroom and ready to go. Nick tells us it looks like there’s going to be another morning of waiting as Judge Waldrip clears his docket of other matters first.

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12:06 pm

Mike Bennitt: “Still haven’t started yet. This is going to be a long day. We’re not going to start for another half hour. A hearing is starting now and the judge asked the lawyers to vacate the tables.”

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12:21 pm

Nick says that a hearing on a child support case is wrapping up, and he thinks Monique’s suit may be up soon.

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12:31 pm

A reminder of what’s happening today. We believe that Judge Waldrip will take up Monique’s motion for sanctions, during which there may be some interesting argument about Mike Rinder’s 2007 texts (which John Sweeney discussed above). Scientology will also be fighting over Judge Waldrip’s order that Monique could depose Scientology leader David Miscavige for jurisdictional issues. (Miscavige filed a ‘special appearance’ and asked to be released from the lawsuit because he says he’s never done any business in Texas.) Monique filed notice to depose Miscavige on January 29, but then Scientology filed a motion to quash it. Scientology also filed a motion to reconsider, asking Judge Waldrip to rethink his order allowing Monique to depose Miscavige.

What won’t be discussed today is Scientology’s anti-SLAPP motion. Scientology presented its argument for that motion on January 8, and Monique has been granted a continuance to gather more evidence for her response. Scientology has until Monday to turn over the evidence she’s asking for. Then, on February 3 and 4, Monique will present her answer to the anti-SLAPP motion, and Judge Waldrip will decide whether this lawsuit can continue. Those will be big days in court.

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12:34 pm

HERE WE GO…

NICK ROGERS: Ray Jeffrey now giving his opening argument for sanctions.

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1:33 pm

Nick says they’re out on lunch break after an initial session that mostly featured arguing about statutes and case law.

“It’s really detailed stuff,” Nick says.

Ray Jeffrey, Monique Rathbun’s attorney, is seeking sanctions against Scientology for not producing any records. But Scientology is arguing that Monique’s team didn’t follow the proper procedures.

The Scientology team tried to convince Judge Dib Waldrip that Jeffrey had to file a motion to compel (to force them to turn over documents) before he could file a motion for sanctions.

Jeffrey said that the rules were clear — he could have filed either a motion to compel or a motion for sanctions.

Waldrip looked through the rules, and said he would do a more complete study of that point during the lunch break.

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1:36 pm

Nick says one of the best lines of the morning belonged to Scientology attorney Ricardo Cedillo, who complained about the media attention to the lawsuit.

“He accused Ray of trying to create a media circus so the rules of law would be ignored,” Nick says.

Um, yeah. Media circus.

He points out that besides himself and Mike Bennitt, ESMB’s “Lone Star” is present, as well as San Antonio reporter John McCormack, who has a photographer with him.

And that’s it.

Some media circus.

But then, Nick said, Cedillo outdid himself with yet another great observation…

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1:39 pm

We’re wondering what kind of intestinal fortitude it required of Cedillo to say this with a straight face, but Nick tells us at one point the Scientology attorney made this complaint about Monique’s legal team…

“Every time it’s going against them, they want to try something else.”

Oh no he didn’t.

Cedillo really must think Judge Waldrip is a drooling, mouth-breathing moron.

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1:42 pm

We told Nick that is sounds like to us that Ray is complaining that the church hasn’t turned over any evidence, but the church is saying they haven’t been asked properly.

Yep, that’s about it, Nick said.

He tells us that Lamont Jefferson, lawyer for David Miscavige, also made a complaint about the way Ray Jeffrey is handling things, saying that Ray’s requests for evidence have been overbroad and improperly asked for, and Ray also ‘broke the lawyer’s code’ by asking for sanctions.

But Nick says that Scientology’s main complaint — that Ray could not file a motion for sanctions without first filing a motion to compel — didn’t seem to be gaining traction with Judge Waldrip.

“He said he couldn’t find anything in the case law the church had brought up that said Jeffrey couldn’t do this. But he said he’s going to look at it more thoroughly,” Nick said. “Almost the whole first 30 minutes was arguing over statutes and case law.”

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1:46 pm

Finally, Nick pointed out one other rather strange occurrence from the morning session.

He said that Jonathan Hull, who represents hired would-be spy Steven Gregory Sloat and Squirrel Buster Ed Bryan, filed his own motion to quash the deposition of Scientology leader David Miscavige.

Nick said he found it curious that Sloat (who claimed he never talked to anyone in Scientology) and Bryan (who the Church of Scientology International admits to sending to protest at the home of the Rathbuns) would try to quash the deposition of a person who is supposedly not in charge of them.

Um, oops?

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2:04 pm

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Photos by Mike Bennitt! Here’s Wallace Jefferson, the former chief justice of the Texas Supreme Court, back in his position watching matters behind the main action. We still don’t know why a San Antonio TV station said he’s now the “lead” attorney for Scientology. We see no evidence of it.

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2:24 pm

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Photo by Mike Bennitt: Lamont Jefferson gestures at Ray Jeffrey as they stand before Judge Waldrip in today’s hearing.

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2:26 pm

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Photo by Mike Bennitt: Judge Dib Waldrip listens to Ray Jeffrey make his opening statement at today’s hearing.

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2:27 pm

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Photo by Mike Bennitt: Scientology attorney Ricardo Cedillo gets animated during today’s hearing.

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2:52 pm

A short video from Mike Bennitt of Ray Jeffrey making his opening statement.

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4:23 pm

Sorry for the lack of updates. If you remember, last time, Waldrip kept everyone in the courtroom until about 5:30 pm Texas time, and without allowing electronic communications.

We may be in for a lengthy wait.

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6:27 pm

They’re out! Bennitt says Nick is getting a clarification from Ray Jeffrey on today’s outcome…

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6:31 pm

DEPOSITION NOT QUASHED

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6:33 pm

JUDGE WALDRIP SUGGESTS MISCAVIGE DEPOSITION TAKE PLACE IN COURTROOM

Not sure yet if that was just a suggestion or an order, still getting info…

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6:45 pm

Miscavige deposition date still to be set. Waldrip wants evidence matters settled first. Could be months before deposition is taken…

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6:54 pm

OK, off the phone with Nick. As we said, Judge Waldrip, after listening to the arguments of David Miscavige’s attorney, Lamont Jefferson, did not quash Miscavige’s deposition.

Nick says that Waldrip told Jefferson that he was not persuaded, though he appreciated all his hard work.

Lamont kept arguing, saying that all Monique’s team wants is Miscavige’s deposition, and there would be nothing gained from it.

But Waldrip was firm: He said the evidence in the lawsuit is contradictory, so he doesn’t see anything wrong with deposing Miscavige for his version of events.

Lamont then complained about Jeffrey asking Miscavige open-ended questions.

Waldrip said he understood there would be objections, maybe to every question Miscavige would be asked, so maybe the deposition should take place in the courtroom in Waldrip’s presence.

Oh my. We’re not sure if he was just thinking out loud again, but we’ll check later with Ray Jeffrey on that.

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6:58 pm

We asked Nick about Monique’s motion for sanctions. “He didn’t go with sanctions yet,” Nick told us. Nick said that Waldrip told Ray Jeffrey that he needed to clarify his motion, that there were levels of sanctions.

Waldrip suggested that they could confer over the next seven days, and if Scientology didn’t cough up documents that he’s already ordered them to turn over, then Ray could come back with a more detailed motion for sanctions or a motion to compel.

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6:59 pm

Nick says that Lamont Jefferson kept asking for a hearing on Miscavige’s “special appearance” — saying that it should happen before Miscavige is deposed.

(Sneaky. If Waldrip were to grant the special appearance, then Miscavige is out of the case and no deposition.)

But Walddrip said they need evidence before a hearing can be held. That’s the point of the deposition.

Nice try, Lamont.

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7:09 pm

Waldrip deflected Jefferson’s arguments by pointing out that there were contradictions in the evidence so far, which a deposition of Miscavige might clear up. Specifically, he pointed to the testimony of RTC employee Warren McShane.

In a declaration, McShane testified that 25 years of travel records showed that except for one trip to Dallas to open an “Ideal Org,” David Miscavige had spent no time in Texas. But when he was deposed, under questioning by Ray Jeffrey, McShane admitted that he hadn’t actually gone through any of Miscavige’s travel records himself.

Waldrip pointed out that it suggested McShane was just saying what Miscavige told him — so what’s wrong with asking Miscavige directly?

Also, Waldrip brought up the 2009 issue of Freedom magazine which had described Miscavige as being in control of “external affairs” for the church. Well, wouldn’t that put him in control of surveillance operations in Texas? Again, it was something that could be clarified in a deposition.

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7:17 pm

Lamont Jefferson then took another argument. (He must have known the 2009 Freedom article was bad.) He tried to argue that any CEO would take control of any threat against his company. But Miscavige taking an interest in a threat is not proof that he ordered the investigation in Texas.

But Waldrip again pointed to the Freedom article, saying that it suggested there was a question about Miscavige’s role that it brought up. So again, another reason why Miscavige could speak for himself.

At that point, Jefferson tried to make a religious argument, about Miscavige being a religious leader, but it didn’t seem to go anywhere.

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7:20 pm

A couple more Lamont Jefferson gems…

Nick says Jefferson was making the argument that the depositions made in the case so far were made under oath, so they have to be treated as the truth.

But then Waldrip pointed out that McShane changed his story under questioning, so that wasn’t necessarily the case.

At another point, Lamont was apparently trying to ridicule Monique’s assertion that Miscavige was actually behind the Texas surveillance by saying that the church leader couldn’t, for example, have made a secret trip to Texas — he’d be recognized by millions.

But Waldrip said, until you showed a picture of him to me, I’d never heard of him.

Oh, that Judge Waldrip.

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7:24 pm

Nick says that at one point, Lamont Jefferson showed a page with pictures of all the 16 people who have filed declarations in favor of Monique’s case arguing that Miscavige is in control of everything in Scientology.

Nick could see that the title on the page was “Rathbun’s Posse”

Ray Jeffrey objected to the use of the word. But Waldrip said it was no different than him using “Captain” or “Pope.” Jeffrey pointed out, however, that those were Scientology’s own words.

Nick said he had to keep from laughing.

Nick also pointed out that at one point Lamont Jefferson referred to John Brousseau as a maintenance man.

That “maintenance man,” Jeffrey pointed out, was at one time L. Ron Hubbard’s personal driver. (And, we’ll add, he was also David Miscavige’s brother-in-law for 16 years!)

Finally, we asked Nick if the 2007 Mike Rinder texts ever came up, and he said Ray Jeffrey only mentioned them briefly.

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7:34 pm

Now talking to Lone Star, more in a minute…

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7:44 pm

We met Lone Star when we attended the first court hearing in Monique’s case.

He had a few more observations to make after looking at what Nick told us.

He said that when Lamont Jefferson was going on about how David Miscavige was like the CEO of a major international business, he actually said that like other CEO’s, it was his job to “crush the competition,” because that’s what CEOs do.

And yet, not much longer after that, Lamont was on again about how Miscavige was an ecclesiastical leader with more rarefied tasks.

Lone Star made it sound like Lamont didn’t seem to understand what a nonsensical contrast that was.

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7:46 pm

And here’s one of the best.

Lone Star says that at another point when Lamont was talking about Miscavige the CEO, he actually said that as part of his job, Miscavige “smashes squirrels.”

“Lamont will be briliant, and then he’ll fire a few foot-bullets that are just unbelievable,” Lone Star says.

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7:49 pm

Lone Star adds that Jefferson was repeatedly warning Judge Waldrip about “setting a dangerous precedent.” He suggested that subjecting a major CEO and religious leader to a deposition would be something that would have grave consequences or something.

“The whole world is watching” Lone Star said Jefferson said, “and you don’t want to set a dangerous precedent.”

And there was another strategy Lamont Jefferson used, Lone Star added. He kept referring to the special appearance (Miscavige’s attempt to get out of the lawsuit) and the idea of bringing in a CEO from another state to testify, and he said it was all part of “evolving law.”

He said there were several recent cases that applied, and which showed that the law was changing, Lone Star said.

“I think he was taking things out of context, and I think Ray Jeffrey did a good job knocking that down.”

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7:58 pm

Finally, and most ominously, Lone Star said at one point about Waldrip ordering Miscavige’s deposition to be taken, Lamont said, “I think a Texas appeals court will take a different view of that.”

Lone Star said the unstated second half of that utterance was, “My brother is right here behind me taking notes to make sure of that.”

“That’s what he does, is take notes. Constantly,” Lone Star said about Wallace Jefferson.

Nick Rogers called back with a couple of additional notes: Judge Waldrip was really starting to get visibly angry when they were arguing about sanctions. Cedillo was talking about getting the motion tossed, and Waldrip was trying to get everyone on the same page about the seven days limit.

Cedillo motored on, and Waldrip actually whistled to get Cedillo to shut up. He called Cedillo “obstructive.” And when Cedillo said he was arguing so vociferously because Jeffrey had raised the issue of criminal perjury charges in the sanctions motion, Waldrip said, “No one’s asking you to defend that today, Mr. Cedillo.” He was very perturbed, Nick says.

Waldrip had also wondered out loud about so much money being spent on a simple thing like MIscavige’s deposition.

Bingo, judge.

We want to thank Nick Rogers, Mike Bennitt, and Lone Star for being our eyes and ears today.

We’re going to have a bite to eat and then interview Ray Jeffery. If we do another story, it will be a new post. Thanks, everyone!

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9:05 pm

BONUS VIDEO from Mike Bennitt: Scientology lawyer Ricardo Cedillo complains about the “media circus” that he blames on Ray Jeffrey.

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11:13 pm

Looks like Ray Jeffrey wanted the night off. I’ll try and get an update from him tomorrow.

Thanks again to our great correspondents. And the comments were particularly clever and fun today. Glad everyone had a great time.

Tomorrow morning we’ve got another really good conversation with Jefferson Hawkins, and we also got an update from Arlene Cordova that you’re going to want to see.

Next big dates in Monique’s case: By January 27, Scientology is supposed to have turned over evidence required for Monique’s anti-SLAPP response. Then on February 3 and 4, she’ll present her argument, and Waldrip will need to make a decision about that motion.

Good night!

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  • EnthralledObserver

    *slinks into restaurant behind TO* C’mon, dude… last mouthful… open up… there you go. Now, up… here, here’s your phone… I’ve already dialled Ray’s number, that’s it, just press ‘call’. Chop, chop… :D

    • EnthralledObserver

      Whoops… TO eating at home tonight. *apologises to man now chatting animatedly to Ray Jeffrey about this weird cult and it’s evil leader* *snatches phone back*

      • EnthralledObserver

        Now the guy is downvoting me… I’m sorry dude, but this is Tony’s phone… and he needs it to talk to Ray! Go read more TO articles, everything you ever needed to know about this CULT, $cientology, can be found in them.

        • Ardent

          Enthralled, you really DO have a robot clicking at you! Stupid asshole thinks it makes a difference? Obviously you hit a sore spot in some Scilon’s addled pate. More power to you, I say!

          • EnthralledObserver

            :D thanks, Ardent!

            • Ardent

              Gotta support each other. I have robots of my own. All the best, and cheers! What a grand day we’ve had!

  • TXCowgirl

    ¿Dónde está Baby? Get your sarcastic and beloved self out of the dishwater and over to the Bunker!!

    • Baby

      Hahahahhahaha… I’m here TX… getting caught up ; 0

      • Ardent

        Oh, silly me! HI, Baby. Great Day, eh?

        • Baby

          OH MY GAWD YES! Doing my happy dance.. Woo Hoo… and Yippie Skippie..

          Plus my feet feel so much better today.. I switched shoes.. Crocks.. so much better!

          • Ardent

            That IT! I was trying to remember the type of shoe I was told about – Crocks! Glad you’ve got happy feet, ’cause happy feet gotta dance!

            • Baby

              Yep.. and I can NOT tell you the difference.. I think you said Clogs, but I knew you meant Crocks.. and Yep..

              The funny thing I got these cheap ass shoes at K Mart.. to Garden in when Crocks first came out.. Years ago..

              The Tennis shoes I bought for work were so expensive..because I do believe in not scrimping when it comes to shoes.. but these Cheap Crocks.. made all the difference in the world..

              Will go out looking for another pair.. they make work Crocks..maybe I will order on line..

            • D.Y.G.

              I swore by Dansko shoes when I worked in the restaurant biz years ago. They cost more than Crocs, but they’re amazing! And they last forever.

              ETA: I have plantar fasciitis. I lived with the worst kind of pain until someone turned me on to these shoes.

            • Baby

              I’ll check those out too DYG… thanks.. My hubby is getting sick of rubbing my feet..ha

            • D.Y.G.

              I hear you! I used to beg for a foot massage every night.

              Check ebay and Zappos. They’re usually less than suggested retail. Don’t be put off by a wedge heel on some styles. They’re still amazingly comfortable. The clogs are especially durable – the leather upper is stapled to the sole.

            • Baby

              Oh Good D… ( Yes.. to begging nightly) Thank you so much ..really .. I went to Zappos and favorited their page.. before you suggested it! So will order something tonight.. xo

            • Aslansown

              Hey Baby! I had heard wonderful things about Dansko clogs so I went online to research them. Turns out a few years ago they started manufacturing them in China, and according to online reviews, the quality went way down. Now the original manufacturer, Sanita, makes them again under their own name, so if you’re going to go that route, I’d get Sanita. They do sell them on Amazon cheaper than other places.

            • Baby

              Oh that is so go to hear Lion., I will snoop tonight.. xo

            • Qbird

              check out ~ https://www.shoesforcrews.com/ Baby
              slip resistant soles (for realz) – affordable – pick the style you like.
              yes crocks and clogs… and others.

            • Baby

              Oh Q thank you I will I will.. xo hmmmm

            • jeff

              Oh Baby, I’m glad they’re comfortable, but they are a fashion CRIME!

            • Baby

              Hahahahahahha xo Oh Jeff.. Funny

      • TXCowgirl

        Whew! Glad to hear from you fine self. I am on my way out the door in a few. Been staring and commenting here for the past 12 hours and my eyes are a-buggin’.

        • Baby

          Been there darlin before my job.. I’m getting ready for bed.. my Night Out days are Ovah xo

          • TXCowgirl

            Ciao bella.

    • Axton

      You speak French! How cool!

      • TXCowgirl

        Just giving a shout out to the New BraunfelsCentral TX tex-Mex thang.
        Edit: In which case, I should probably add something German, but I’m too dang tired.

        • Axton

          Tres bien, muchacho!

          • TXCowgirl

            That’s the ticket! (but for the record, I’m a muchacha. Well, I used to be one!)

            • Axton

              Fixed! Je suis désolé, muchacha

            • TXCowgirl

              Il n’y a pas de quoi, cher.

    • Ardent

      Hey TX, I was just thinking the same. I’ll bet if she heard what went down today she’d break a dish and not give a hoot. She’s in for a BIG treat today when she logs in!

  • pronoia

    Ok — ya gotta admit, that little video was FILLED with soundbites, all warm and tasty to be served up by bloggers on the fringe!

    • Ardent

      Yeah…Fringe. Fringe my eye. We’re the outpost of sanity, where people are gathering to watch and comment and help out the poor souls trying to, or succeeding in escaping the clutches of an evil cult that MUST be brought down. Fringe…I laugh at fringe!

  • sizzle8

    Anytime now Vickie, anytime….

  • El Con Blubbard

    Reporter’s from around the Globe contacted Captain “Black Heart” David Miscavige, Leader of The Church of Scientology for a statement regarding his deposition in Judge Waldrip’s Court and here is his response:

    http://a.disquscdn.com/uploads/mediaembed/images/793/6262/original.jpg?w=800&h

  • Shirley Eugeste

    Man… the “x new comments above” line is fighting with the “x new comments below” line. When do we get dinner?

    • Sandy

      Come back in the morn’in and pick & choose & skim. The only way …..

    • DamOTclese2

      LOL! Yeah, when does the laundry get done? The vacuuming? It’s annoying that the real world has to be set on hold. :)

      • Eclipse-girl

        My house has not been clean in ages.

        • DamOTclese2

          I blame Tony. :)

          • EnthralledObserver

            Well, to be fair it’s really a collusion between Tony and Davey… you know, fodder for the cause and all…

            • DamOTclese2

              True true! Must not forget the Leader of Anonymous and his part in all this!

          • Missionary Kid

            I take responsibility for my own results.

          • Eclipse-girl

            i do to, but in a gentle non threatening manner.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Dinner is delivered, or popcorn.

  • NOLAGirl

    Off topic: But I’ve found a way to make downvotes into something good. When I have time I’m going to count up all my DV’s from today and for each one I’m donating a dollar to a local children’s charity. So…thank you downvoters…keep up the good work. :D

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Just helping out the kids.

    • Ardent

      That’s a cunning plan. Turning the Scilon’s pesky nonsense into something actually helpful. Nice thinking, NOLAGirl.

      • NOLAGirl

        Thanks Ardent, just thought something good should come of it. I’m a few drinks in so I’ll look into a full count tomorrow, but I like that they’ll hate that they’re contributing to something that doesn’t involve going up their creaky Bridge. LOL :)

    • TXCowgirl

      For the cause, shall I throw a couple dv your way? Just joshing.

    • Mrs Libnish

      I will “down vote” for a good cause.

      • NOLAGirl

        I went back as far as I could in the time I had and it only came to around 50 so my hubby offered to match whatever I put up so we’re taking the cash and a big stack of $25 Wal-Mart cards to a local shelter for women/children leaving abusive homes. Many times they leave with little to nothing so maybe this will help them at least get a few necessities. :) Thanks for the downvote love hon. ((HUGS))

  • DamOTclese2

    By the way, on January 11th, 2015 we shall see The 20th Year Anniversary Of Helena Kobrin’s Infamous RMGROUP demands posted to try to stop the truth about the crime syndicate getting discussed in the alt.religion.scientology newsgroup.

    That is a Sunday. What do people think about holding a party? Or maybe several parties around the world? After all, Kobrin’s RMGROUP got so many of the so-called “Old Guard” activated because of that idiot stunt, that was what got so many mainstream media news outlets covering the organization’s crimes and abuses and due to the overwhelming inflow of new human rights, free speech rights, and other critics as a result of the RMGROUP set the stage for the slow destruction of the enterprise that we’re seeing.

    Maybe by January 11th of 2015 we can dance on the grave of Scientology and metaphorically (or otherwise) urinate on David’s downfall and celebrate the end of Scientology’s horrific crimes and abuses by then. Seems that after 20 years of that significant stunt we should have anniversary parties world wide.

    • Ardent

      No objection here. I would enjoy the gathering and all the fun and joy – especially the relief from fear and loathing the ‘now outs’ would be appreciating. Nobody would be standing in the corner watching them, KR in hand…

    • chukicita

      Has it been that long? I do remember when it happened, and then suddenly there were a lot more peeps on a.r.s. – totally the opposite result of command intention :D

      I think we should have online and RL parties.

  • Elen

    While we wait… Jason Beghe!! Chicago PD!

  • richelieu jr

    Looking bad for Popey the SeaOrg man, innit?

  • LaLa104

    Might sound childish but all I can say : WOOOHOOOO Judge Waldrip you are MY HERO.. He no takey no BS from the C0S BS lawyers.. GOTTA LOVE THIS GUY! ( On a side note: Wonder if Waldrip has done his homework about the C of OS the past several months and realizes what a Cluster Fritz he’s into).

    • Seannie5

      Waldrip has to have done some research. Even if he knew nothing about scientology beforehand, the minute he saw 25 lawyers walk into his courtroom he would have been google happy that night.

      • Shirley Eugeste

        I hope that at some point he chastises any or all of the COS lawyers for being glib…

        • Shirley Eugeste

          Or tells them he’s cancelled something in his area.

      • Eclipse-girl

        according to other legal eagles, the judge can not do the research. That would inevitably lead to charges of bias.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          He no doubt had known of their reputation before he was assigned the case. One could argue that not only wouldn’t he research them, he would just have to tread carefully and allow the CoS lawyers to make their motions and give them as few footholds for appealing the case if it makes it to trial and a judgement is made against the Deadly Dwarf. The Merchant of Menace and his Reign of Error is about to hit a significant bump in the road ahead of him.

          • Robert Eckert

            I don’t know if he would know of their reputation except in the vaguest sense. He said he had never heard of David Miscavige, and doesn’t seem the type to write gossip sheets about Tom Cruise.

            • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

              Even in a vague sense, I’m sure he’d know that, legally, CoS has always had a reputation that it ‘doesn’t play well with others’.

            • Robert Eckert

              You’d be surprised. Myself, I read Dianetics back forty years ago, thought it was pretty poor; got handed a free personality test but thought it was too long to bother finishing; and never heard of Scientology again for decades. I did not even know it was still a thing until I saw mentioned on television that Tom Cruise was devoted to it, and then of course in the past few years my Internet surfing brought it increasingly to my attention. If Waldrip does not surf the net, or pay any attention to movie stars, he might never have heard the name “Scientology” more than once or twice in his life.

  • Seannie5

    So basically if they do finally set a date for Davey’s deposition, Lamont will appeal it.. and more delays. What purpose does the Gus Fring lookalike (Lamont’s brother) serve – advisory only? 25 lawyers isn’t enough?

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      Thank you. I said he reminded me of Gus earlier and it seemed that no one knew what I meant.

      • Seannie5

        Haha! I wrote out a comment that included a major spoiler for his character but I deleted so as not to ruin it for people. It’s easy to guess if I say he reminds you of Gus pre or post _ _ _ _

        • YSYSYSYSYS

          I keep imagining Davey packing up and heading to the vacuum repair shop.

          • Axton

            I think you have the best username ever

            • YSYSYSYSYS

              Well thanks, Axton. I’d like to say I thank Miss Cabbage for it but I can’t bring myself to thank him for anything. Besides, he didn’t “give” it to me, I flagrantly stole it from him. ;-)

            • Axton

              That’s why it’s so awesome!

            • YSYSYSYSYS

              lol!

    • Missionary Kid

      It will be difficult to appeal it during the trial, which is going now, and Texas doesn’t favor appeals while a trial is going on.

    • Robert Eckert

      They do not have a right to appeal an order setting the date for the deposition unless Waldrip grants them permission, the chances of which are somewhat below the chance of Battlefield Earth 2 getting made and winning Best Picture.

      • Missionary Kid

        I got choked up with laughter at that one. Best laugh of the day with an excellent explanation!

  • richelieu jr

    Thank you, John Sweeney!

    The Church of Scientology
    “…Wall to Wall Assholes.”

    Quote from David Miscavige

  • Axton

    I forgot what the record number of comments for one Tony article was… I know the total daily comment number is much higher if he had two articles (Breaking News!) in the same day, but for one article, this must be close to the record!

    • Jimmy Threetimes
      • Axton

        3442 comments, impressive… I didn’t remember it was that high that evening, but it probably kept escalating for a day or so. Thanks for the link!

        • Jimmy Threetimes

          That was day 2 of back-to-back live blogging from New Braunfels. It was chaos. Everyone was camped out in tents in the Bunker. There was an unhealthy ratio of alcohol to water. No matter where you went, all you could smell was popcorn. That was great.

          • Axton

            It was truly awesome, worthy of a rock anthem.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              These gentlemen were kind enough to write a song about it:

              http://youtube.com/watch?v=HKdsRWhyH30

            • Snippy_X

              Great footage. I thought you were going to put up Wooden Ships. Nice.

            • jeff

              Actually, Joni Mitchell wrote that song.

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I didn’t know that, thanks.

            • jeff
            • PreferToBeAnon2

              Thanks jeff, enjoyed that!

            • PreferToBeAnon2

              And oddly enough, Joni wasn’t even at Woodstock!

            • jeff

              True, but she was supposed to have been. Watch the video below for her explanation.

            • Robert Eckert

              As the saying goes, anybody with memories of Woodstock wasn’t there.

          • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

            And I had to take a 16-year old to the medical tend because he was having a bad acid trip.

            I actually did that at a Grateful Dead concert.

      • Axton

        Oh, we shouldn’t rule out a second post by Tony tonight!

  • aegerprimo

    ESMB is back online.

  • baddog5623

    Tell us again about the media circus in the courtroom?

    • baddog5623

      these clowns want to the courtroom in to a ORG that shows indoctrination videos.

  • baddog5623

    Oh there is a circus in the courtroom and we all know who the ringleader is!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    I was unexpectedly called away five hours ago. Anything happen while I was gone…?

    • YSYSYSYSYS

      Not really Douglas. Pretty quiet really. There was some talk of house cleaning and cats and there may have been caek.

      • Artoo45

        I got new sheets.

        • YSYSYSYSYS

          Ooh nice! Flat or fitted?

          • Artoo45

            A flat to go with the fitted linen sheets from Belarus. Divine.

            • YSYSYSYSYS

              That sounds tres divine.

            • Artoo45

              Oh, quite! Quite! Thennnnnnk yo!

    • Artoo45

      Nope.

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      Nope, quiet day all in all.

  • Artoo45

    Maybe Mindscavenge has been collecting all that extra money for, a vast Sciurine Collider to smash squirrels world wide.

  • IBBy

    I’ve been away for a couple of reasons, 1. I’ve been in staff training (almost decked a smug coworker for a very personally insulting comment he made but thats another story) and 2. the last few days of posts have been very heavy and overwhelming and there is only so much energy I can allocate to processing all of the fuckery that is pushed out at the direction of dave.

    That being said, hello all and sundry and congrats to Mosey. This was another red letter day, and here are to many more in the future, culminating in David Mismanagement and the Crutch of Scilontology having to publicly answer to their abuses and misdeeds

  • aquaclara

    Thank you, Tony! It was a great day…

  • Candygram

    How much clearer do the Jeffersons plan to make it that Wallace Jefferson stepped down from a ?superior? court judgeship to sit in Judge Waldrip’s courtroom and try to intimidate him?

    • Candygram

      PS: thank you all of you!

      • Mooser

        Wallace was, by all accounts, a distinguished Chief Justice for Texas, the first African-American Texas Supreme Court Chief Justice, who was devoted to making the legal system fairer and more accessible to the disadvantaged. And he served a good 12 years as Chief Justice. A Bush Republican, but with a reputation for probity. (I got past probity years and years ago and reached a troubled obsolescence. And then, of course, adult hood.)

        He would have had no lack of offers when he left the Bench.

    • Mooser

      Wallace Jefferson was the Chief Justice of the Texas Supreme Court.

      • Candygram

        Thanks Mooser. I knew I should’ve looked that up. I still have some sort of mental block that he appears to have stepped down to do this. I’m sure that’s not the stated reason, but it’s how it looks.

        • http://frankdisalleisadummy.wordpress.com/ Get Chutney Love

          “It is a sin to think ill of ones’ fellow man. It is seldom a mistake.”

          H. L. Mencken

          • Ardent

            I love Mencken! One of the best American commentators and humorists! Thanks.

            • jeff

              Yup. Up there with Mark Twain and Kurt Vonnegut.

    • Missionary Kid

      That’s a stupid move. Judges are the rulers of their own courts. What Wallace used to be doesn’t mean anything, since he’s now there in the capacity of an advocate. Sir Dib knows that he’s going to get all sorts of appeals.

      A threat of having Wallace in the courtroom doesn’t mean anything, except that he’s going to issue carefully crafted opinions and follow procedures very carefully.

      • AutOmatic

        Actually, it’s a great footbullet for the $cilon lawyers. Sir Dib will now follow procedures even more carefully, therefore making it even harder for the CO$ to appeal. GOOOO DIB!

        • Artoo45

          Mu’ad DIB! (Miscavige explodes)

          • Missionary Kid

            One of the worst science fiction puns, but I’m laughing. ;-)

            • Artoo45

              Better start the Official Bunker List of Judge Waldrip nicknames . . .

            • Missionary Kid

              I’ve got too many as it is. Thanks. :-)

        • Missionary Kid

          Agreed.

        • MaxSpaceman

          Still, appeals (plural) are guaranteed. This case could go on for years.

      • Ardent

        Hi, MK. You’re sure? I worry. Probably needlessly but with the cult I trust nothing.

        • Missionary Kid

          Read Robert Eckert & some of the other attorneys here. As far as Dib is concerned, during the trial, Wallace is just another high paid attorney. If Dib follows the law, he’s still going to get appealed, but the fact that someone has held a high judicial position doesn’t mean jack. He has no authority, but he can charge big bucks for his supposedly big brain and experience.

          DM probably hired both brothers because they’re brothers, and Mosey is black. That doesn’t mean shit on appeal, but it might influence jurors some if it goes to trial.

    • Couch_Incident

      Wallace was franticly taking important notes on his legal pad such as, “Pound pastrami, can kraut, six bagels–bring home for Emma.”

      • Mooser

        and stuff like “Top Ten Reason why we shouldn’t both be dependent on Sci. for our paychecks”

  • Anonymous

    Awesome job Tony (and crew) – thanks!

  • baddog5623

    Looks like DM is really bothered about his courtroom stratigies looking so loony.

  • BigMcLargeHuge

    Waldrip is bona fide!

    • Davka

      I’m impressed by him, so far. Seems like a well reasoned, smart, no BS judge. Always the type you want to go in front of, even if he rules against you.

  • Tony Ortega

    Just noticed that the San Antonio TV station following this case — the one that had called Wallace Jefferson the new ‘lead’ attorney — is now just calling him ‘part of the team.’ But it also showed the footage of the Squirrel Busters first showing up at the Rathbun home (in April, 2011) and acted like it was some new, uncovered footage — and even blurred out the faces of John Allender and company! (smh)

  • Tony DePhillips

    It smells rotten having the cult lawyers brother and ex judge sitting in the court room as if to intimidate the proceedings.

  • NeverIn

    Too many comments to go through today, but in case someone didn’t already post:

    “5 Ways Growing Up Inside Scientology Was a Nightmare”

    http://www.cracked.com/article_20869_5-ways-growing-up-inside-scientology-was-nightmare.html#ixzz2rCGKuGbF

    This is on Cracked.com, a popular humor “list” site, posted this today. It has over 800,000 views the first day!

    • Verve

      Good catch. I put up a post telling people to come here or ESMB for more info.

    • jeff

      Now those stats are what I would call straight up and vertical.

    • Shirley Eugeste

      Steer clear of the “Usual Suspects” list next door, if you’ve, um, been in a bunker the past few years and haven’t seen the movie yet. Major spoiler.

      (Major Spoiler sounds like a character from Catch-22…)

    • Zana

      Wow. Amazing article. Really well written.

    • InterestedObserver12

      Great article. I am sharing it on my Facebook page and encourage others to do the same.

  • Ardent

    You deserve huge kudos, Tony! Thank you so much for this forum and all your work

  • Great White Clam

    $cintology smells of all the truths they didn’t tell.

  • Still_On_Your_Side

    Poor Lamont Jefferson, he is so desperate. He really doesn’t understand all of the drama and intrigues playing out in Miscavige’s mind. He also has no concept of how to represent the CEO of a religious entity. He should have consulted Miscavige’s tax attorney before arguing Miscavige’s job is to “crush the competition.” What is the reason CEOs get tough with competitors? To Get More Profit. Accordingly, without even realizing it, Jefferson is arguing that the case is about fighting competitors for profit. Obviously, these are Miscavige’s words since he runs the church like a 1950s mobster-run real estate development company with a religious side-angle to garner more “profits.” Jefferson should know better, but apparently he doesn’t and this is good for Monique. His incompetence is Monique’s gain, so please continue Mr. Jefferson.

    Cedillo is not much better. The difference is he expresses his confusion and desperation by becoming bellicose. Cedillo, Jefferson, and most of the defense-team, are focused on keeping Miscavige out of a deposition. I think Miscavige will empty the church’s bank accounts to stop the deposition. He is terrified of this case, it is worst nightmare. The judge thought he was being Solomon-like by offering to hold the deposition in his courtroom. Miscavige, however, will probably never agree to that. The possibility of having to face Marty Rathbun face-to-face, even in the court hallways, is part of this worst nightmare. Don’t be surprised if his lawyers echo his fears by claiming that the deposition is nothing more than harrassment by Marty Rathbun,

    At the end of he day, it seems that Miscavige’s lawyers threatened an interlocutory appeal. Of a deposition……. Ridiculous. It is abundantly clear that Miscavige is having a melt-down over the deposition.I hope he doesn’t do something very, very stupid like threaten the judge…..

    • Drat

      I think Judge Waldrip knew exactly what his offer to hold the deposition in the courtroom would mean to David Miscavige. He has just upped the stakes. Expect the lawyers to become more irrational, and perhaps to get a new member.

    • Markthehungarian

      These proceedings have “screenplay” written all over them.

      “The possibility of having to face Marty Rathbun face-to-face, even in the court hallways, is part of this worst nightmare.” Can you imagine? The likelihood is small, of course, and were it to happen it would be months away, but it would be popcornalooza.

    • Anonymous

      ‘ It is abundantly clear that Miscavige is having a melt-down over the
      deposition.I hope he doesn’t do something very, very stupid like
      threaten the judge….. ‘

      Why not? It will get Tiny Fists thrown in jail and be quite lulzy.

  • Graham

    7am here in the UK. Had to leave the party yesterday before things got going.

    “the church leader couldn’t, for example, have made a secret trip to Texas — he’d be recognized by millions.”

    What?! They are living so deep inside their own bubble that they actually think this makes any kind of sense?! It’s like living in the Truman Show, knowing you’re living in the Truman Show, and yet still believing you’re living in the real world.

    “But Waldrip said, until you showed a picture of him to me, I’d never heard of him.” Spot on. Outside of the tiny $camatology universe nobody knows Slappy, nobody cares about Slappy. In the great scheme of things he’s a nobody.

    • InterestedinCrazy

      People here were commenting how small and evil looking DM was when he appeared in press here. Some didn’t even know there was a Leader to TC and JT ‘cult’ (their words)!

      • Graham

        Slappy’s too scared to do interviews or appear freely in public, so no wonder he has a virtually zero public profile. I imagine most ‘wogs’ know that $cientology was started by Hubbard but haven’t the faintest idea who, if anyone, succeeded him. Yes, you’d expect anyone who was a leader to TC and JT to be at least as publicly recognisable as them.

  • InterestedinCrazy

    Fingers crossed the news from Arlene Cordova is positive!

  • SciWatcher

    What a beautiful thing to wake up to.

    Others have probably mentioned this, but what really strikes me is how delusively self-important they are: Miscavige couldn’t possibly have made a secret trip to Texas because he is recognizable by millions, and “the whole world is watching,” this case.

    No, actually, he’s not, and no, actually, very few people are watching. The vast majority of people have no idea who Miscavige is, and no idea a trial is even taking place. Talk about delusions of grandeur.

  • 0tessa

    Tony and mates: thank you very much for your reporting! You are writing history.

  • Ardent

    Just a thought. As we become more in the eye, as I think may happen as a cult defense, we must be much more careful about the content of posts. Any comments? I would hate for us to be used in DEFENCE of the cult. I really think we must be very careful – no trusting the cult, not at all.

    • DodoTheLaser

      You speak reason, Ardent.

      However, it’s like asking Media Lush to change his avatar or trying to tell cats to do a roll call.

      People will say dumb and brilliant things, regardless. It’s the internet. Also, freedom of speech.

      What’s more important, most if not all commenters here don’t advocate any kind of violence,
      and don’t approve of the abuses.

      Hope it makes sense and I appreciate your concern.
      Feel free to define “careful”. I always try to learn from others.

      • Ardent

        Thanks, Dodo. A reply is above, I think. As for reining in most of our friends… Forget it! : )

      • Suzy

        This cat doesn’t answer roll call (unless there is a can of tuna involved), but I agree on never suggesting violence, however jokingly we may mean it.

    • Graham

      Good point Ardent, though that particular Rubicon may already have been crossed, given the number of fruity comments already posted. I am impressed with the way we ‘self-police’ with regard to any expressions of violence, even when they are not meant to be taken literally.

    • EnthralledObserver

      The way I look at it I am just a commenter here… I don’t even affect the place. So long as Tony takes heed of legal advice by his representatives, we’re all good. As far as I’ve seen Tony deletes threats, even ones tongue in cheek, and that’s really the only thing that they could use against anyone, that we (Tony and his commenters) threatened them – or organised a threatening action. Anything more is merely ‘opinion’, and no-one ever broke any law by expressing their opinion.

      • Ardent

        Yes, that is probably so, Enthralled. But if we become too incendiary we may endanger Tony’s position, and that of the Bunker. I am in NO WAY suggesting we back off the cult, but we might want to think of our posts in light of possible rejoinders that are warped, Scientologised, or misconstrued. I despise the cult, I want it wiped out, but I think, at this moment, we must all temper ourselves for serious battle. Other may reasonably disagree – fine. I just have sense that the Evil ones in OSA could turn things on us foully. I simply do NOT trust the cult in any respect.
        I’m happy to be wrong, or for us to debate, that’s what we should do. But I feel wary, now. Make any sense, Enthralled? I don’t want US to engage in footbullets. Peace.

        • Ardent

          Oh, fuck off, OSA.

        • aegerprimo

          I agree with both of you, Ardent and EnthralledObs. The main thing I try to keep in mind as a commenter here is the purpose of this blog – to expose the crimes of the Co$ and the faultyness of Scientology. As an ex-scientologist, I think of the lurker who is on the fence about their involvement with the cherch, and the person who has family and/or friends in the cherch. They are looking for info, the truth, answers. The right thing to do is to help Tony with his brave and often dangerous task.

      • chukicita

        I used to think that way. Then Keith Henson.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Watched The Wolf of Wall Street. Good movie.
    Wondering what The Wolf of Int Base would be like.

    • Great White Clam

      Cujo.

      • Anonymous

        More like a miniature poodle.

    • Anonymous

      Hey Dodo,

      Tony was looking for someone from Moscow and your name came up. You might want to email him.

    • 0tessa

      Not as handsome as Leonarde …

    • YSYSYSYSYS

      The rule of Anna of Russia.

  • Great White Clam

    Quite an event today, wasn’t it?

    • Ardent

      GWC, there are few words to describe it. I will settle for WONDERFUL.

  • And I’m Cute, Too

    I practically cackled with glee when I saw this line:

    “JUDGE WALDRIP SUGGESTS MISCAVIGE DEPOSITION TAKE PLACE IN COURTROOM”

    Then I realized it wasn’t necessarily an order — it might not happen. But just the idea of it…. breathe, breathe…

    More fine work by Ray Jeffrey. More lovely footbullets from Davey’s team of legal puppets. And more encouraging, level-headed decisions from Judge Waldrip.

    A wonderful day, all around.

    • shasha40

      Would’t that be totally Awesome! I could see Cap’n Davey in front of Judge Waldrip now. Judge Waldrip Please make it happen. Love to see Ray skewer him in deposition! Tick, tock Davey boy

    • Sid_Snakey

      If this happens it’s game over pure and simple. Miscavige will not appear under oath before a Judge – no way, it will never happen. He will settle.

  • vistaril_LOL

    Also, Waldrip brought up the 2009 issue of Freedom magazine which
    had described Miscavige as being in control of “external affairs” for
    the church. Well, wouldn’t that put him in control of surveillance
    operations in Texas? Again, it was something that could be clarified in a
    deposition.

    I like this observation.

  • anonmonkyoutube

    Because the COS likes to speak in a language heavily fortified by military terms I decided to call my recently developed Smart Weapon the ‘Word Bomb’ (If Hubbard can make things up so can I!).

    The purpose of the Word Bomb is to tie up OSA staffs’ time by way of ‘word clearing’ (their term).

    A Scientologist is not allowed to go pass a word they don’t understand. They must go through a process and get a full understanding of the word and all definitions.

    An example of a Word Bomb (google ‘Complicated words etc’).

    Then list the words here….. SEE BELOW …(I hope this is ok). For a bit of extra fun you can add a made up word! Or even add a few extra letters to an existing one. (Hee hee)

    Anyway my theory is if this process takes OSA staff away from what they are doing ie harassing ‘WOGS’ We all win!;) Sure their stats will go up clearing. I hope you share my enthusiasm!

    Best Anonmonk List starts here Ailurophile, Amalgamation, Antidisestablishmentarianism,Dermatoglyphics,

    Hippopotomonstrosesquippedaliophobia,Keratoprosthesis,Leukopenia,Sesquipedality,Zeugmatography, Acetaminophen, Acetohexamide, Acetone, Acetylcholine ,Acetylcysteine,Acetylsalicylic

  • DeElizabethan

    What a great day and thanks for all this. I had to leave at 6 yesterday and now back today with lots to review. Deposition Not Squashed! Yippeee. Eager to watch full video and read comments. Thank you Tony, and everyone there for bringing this to view. Supah kudos to all!

  • vistaril_LOL
  • http://www.askdescamp.com/ Robin Descamp

    Good stuff! By the way, I think my dog Archie looks like DM. Thoughts?

    • Baby

      Awwwwwwwwww how cute.. ha..

    • Artoo45

      Flunk. Your dog is exceedingly handsome, has dignity and poise . . . he’s also bigger than Miniscavenger.

      • http://www.askdescamp.com/ Robin Descamp

        I will tell him you said so. Archie, not DM. Clearly DM has seen this already…

  • http://www.skippress.com/ Skip Press

    Darn, I was scrolling too fast and I got excited. At first I thought it said –

    Scientology tries to kill Miscavige

    Bummer, man, bummer.

  • Lee Bowskee

    > Scientology has until Monday to turn over the evidence she’s asking for.

    Did Scientology turn over anything? File another appeal? Wassup??