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How’s this for a gift on L. Ron Hubbard’s birthday? ‘Going Clear’ in theaters March 13

TimesTalkOur commenters didn’t miss it yesterday when director Alex Gibney, in a talk at the New York Times building about his new documentary, Going Clear: Scientology & the Prison of Belief, dropped the news that his movie will open in theaters next week.

And what a date — Friday, March 13, on L. Ron Hubbard’s 104th birthday.

Your proprietor was on hand yesterday as Gibney and some of the stars of his film — director Paul Haggis, New Yorker writer Lawrence Wright, and former Scientology spokesman Mike Rinder — had a lively conversation with Times contributor Logan Hill, who asked smart questions about the movie and about Scientology.

In case you didn’t get to see it, here’s the entire thing, embedded…

 

 
Afterwards, at a nearby restaurant, Larry Wright told us that the gentleman in the audience who asked the night’s final question, challenging Wright about how he made sure the facts in his book were correct, was Freedom magazine’s Dan Luzadder.

Wright handled the question deftly, telling the now legendary tale of Scientology’s then-spokesman Tommy Davis coming to the offices of The New Yorker with his wife Jessica Feshbach and four Scientology attorneys in tow, and brought with them 47 binders of data for the fact-checkers at the magazine. Wright explained that he’d been trying for months to get the church’s side of things, and had been repeatedly rebuffed by his efforts to schedule interviews with top Scientology officials. Now, Davis had arrived with thousands of pages of data for the magazine to plow through. Outside of the conference room, Wright said New Yorker editor David Remnick teased him — “You know what you have? You have a book!”

And what a book. Wright turned his New Yorker profile of Paul Haggis into his 2013 book, which Gibney in turn used as a blueprint for his movie.

The point of Wright’s answer to Luzadder was that it was Scientology itself that provided the corroboration for much of what he wrote — and the same is true for the film. Although Scientology has spent lavishly to plaster a bizarre advertising campaign questioning the eight main people interviewed in Going Clear, it’s really the church’s own archival footage and documents that, along with the accounts by Haggis and Rinder and the rest, make the film such a strong one.

Luzadder was assigned by Freedom to keep an eye on Wright quite a while ago. The former newspaper journalist won part of a Pulitzer Prize for team coverage of a flood for the Ft. Wayne News Sentinel in 1983. Then, like so many other ink-stained wretches, he ran into some lean times as the news industry struggled through a difficult economy and changes brought on by the Internet. And now he’s found some work at Scientology’s strange propaganda organ, Freedom. Here’s an example of his work, a piece accusing Vanity Fair of lacking diversity, which is rich, coming from the whitest church on earth. (Why pick on Vanity Fair? We’ll give you one guess.)

Although Luzadder has been assigned to Wright for at least a couple of years, the closest he’s come to taking a swipe at Larry was this weak rebuke of the book-reviewing policies at the New York Times with regards to Going Clear.

Wow, that’s easy money. And we bet it wasn’t cheap for Scientology leader David Miscavige to fly Luzadder out of Colorado to New York so he could line up at a microphone and ask a hard-hitting question that just happened to be right in Larry’s wheelhouse.

Anyway, we had a good laugh about the entire night’s shenanigans over dinner…

 
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Left to right, that’s Aaron Smith-Levin, who had flown up from Florida to attend the event, your proprietor, Gibney, Wright, Rinder, and Haggis.

We had a very nice time listening to wild tales from all of them, but it was off the record, so you’ll just have to imagine all the good stuff.

Anyway, Gibney told us he’d get us details soon about the venues where the film will be opening on the 13th in New York, Los Angeles, and San Francisco. As soon as we get that info, we’ll post it.

 
UPDATE: We just heard from Gibney, who confirmed that the Going Clear opening on March 13 in New York will be at the Francesca Beale Theater at Lincoln Center. Please note the change from what we posted earlier.

 
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Bonus photos from our tipsters

There’s an interesting 1979 letter that L. Ron Hubbard wrote to his old sci-fi pal and literary agent, Forrest Ackerman, up for auction at eBay, with a minimum bid of $750. Imagine how much more it would go for if there was actually something interesting in it.
 
LRHEbay

 
Ooh, big closed-door meeting tonight at the Tampa org. Is there actual news, or just another fundraising session? Someone let us know!

 
SciTampa5

 
Dave is apparently the biggest kid at the Mace-Kingsley Family Center. Or something.

 
MaceKingsley3

 
Scientologists are using social media more than ever. Drop us a line if you spot them posting images to Instagram or Facebook!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on March 3, 2015 at 07:00

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  • Bury_The_Nuts

    BTN Flyby………..I miss you all.
    Back soon.
    Snark is overflowing………….but no time.

    MUAH bunkerites!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Eclipse-girl

      (((HUGS)))

    • The Dude

      Been busy myself. Much Love …….LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • NOLAGirl

      Blender drinks are awaiting your return. 🙂

      • Vaquera

        Thanks for the reminder. Back in a flash. 🙂

    • Ella Raitch

      Fly-by BTN infinitely better than no BTN….have you cleared your calendar for the 29th though, girlie? We need the Bunker on full snark. There will be snacks and cocktails, promise!

    • Miss you too <3

    • aegerprimo

      ♥ waving ♥

    • Artoo45

      Bah bah Burreh!

    • beauty for ashes

      Bury you little bitch? I can’t believe you would neglect your bunker duties! And for what, a mortgage, a successful career, a marriage? You are so CICS! I demand you sell your house, get a job at a mall kiosk, and because we are soooo kind you can keep Mr. Bury. We need you at least 12 hours a day, on the internet, writing snark and shooping Kelly Preston! Noooooow!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    All this talk of Freedumb magazine made me wander over for a lurk today. The below screen shot is a sidebar with links to their slandering of a variety of bitter defrocked apostates. They’re all offensive but I was particularly outraged at the tagline for Karen.

    You can just see Dave writing that and being super pleased with himself. Most ethical people on the planet. Ugh.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      The Irony in most of the captions is a tell all in itself.
      snorts.

      • Observer

        What a sleazy little man David Miscavige is. Just goes to show money can’t buy class.

        • Elle

          Poor breeding stock?

          • Billy Bob

            Oh no. He did it all by himself.

    • NOLAGirl

      They are so offensive and disgusting. This is the website they are blasting all over Twitter and as I’ve said before, the usual reaction is: What “church” does this??

      Keep firing those footbullets Dave. The stats on “people who are learning what a slimy prick you are” are straight up and vertical x 47!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Where’s the Bunker garbage truck? Personally, I don’t want to see this smear trash from the Freedumb slime pages.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        Point taken THDNE. Apologies.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Tks.

      • Artoo45

        My favorite part of the interview was how they all just mocked the pathetic smears and told everyone to go over to Freedumb for a good laugh. I thought that was one of the most deveastating parts of the video, how far beneath their contempt the tiny tyrant’s slurs are. Finish it all off by utterly demolishing the Freedumb plant, man, no dessert has ever tasted as sweet. Okay, Butch Pansy’s pot de creme . . . maybe.

        • Ella Raitch

          Even more delicious now that we know that Dan Lulzadder was in the audience.

    • madame duran

      *tries to think of what abominable descriptor Freedumb mag would use for myself*
      “madame duran – Secret Spandau Ballet Lover”
      DAMN LIARS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      (and yes, my life is that uneventful)

      • Rasha

        What’s not to love about Spandau Ballet?

  • The Dude

    A funny video from a while ago.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OZC20XghTak

  • Vaquera

    Phil McKracken and Tony O, when you have a moment, please share highlights of tonight’s Going Clear screening event at Directors Guild Theater: the crowd, the gasps, the thunderous applause…not the spoilers.

    • Ella Raitch

      Bet they’re having drinks *sulks*

  • DMSTCC


    I can’t remember how I stumbled on the site (https://www.blogger.com/profile/05391080535858750246), but went fishing and caught a whole lot of lame. No links to Co$ sites.

    –last article 09/08/2013
    http://myscientology.blogspot.com/
    (3rd article down – “Basic Questions about Scientology Principles” – 8/4/2012 is a great read)

    I took a look at the linked “Blogs of Scientologists” and found more empty parking lots

    Scientology Blogosphere – gone (Google Reader has been discontinued)

    –last article 11/15/2009
    http://myscientologyblog.blogspot.com/

    –last article 07/23/2014
    https://jetteroheller.wordpress.com/
    (off-shoot http://www.jetteroheller.com/ -> last post 12/16/2014 (Tad Reeves)

    –last article 09/29/2012
    http://scientologist.blogspot.com/

    –last article 01/06/2015 (German)
    http://scientology-blogger.com/

    –last article 10/24/2012
    http://scientology.blogspot.com/

    –last article 11/24/2014
    http://www.desistwocents.com/ -> No mention of $cientology

    –last article 09/15/2011
    http://dianetics.blogspot.com/

    –last article 06/08/2013 (Hispanic)
    https://clearsantodomingo.wordpress.com/

    –last article 12/01/2013
    http://cofsseamsn.blogspot.com/

    –last article 01/10/2013
    http://lindsaar.net/

    The Life Repair Man -> asked for Google login (not goin’ there)

    –last article 03/29/2014
    http://scientology-dianetics.blogspot.com/

    • Your avi is cracking me up!

      • DMSTCC

        G-rated version of the acronym

    • RMycroft

      Back when blogs were a new thing, they created a whole bunch of them to spam the search engines—and then they forgot about them.

      Scientology blogs

      • Lol. Same with the Scientologist Online program.

  • Jenstnick

    Wow. Wow. Wow. It took me all day to get through the video because I had other stuff to do but it was amazing. Looking forward to watching it again on my iPad from bed tonight.

  • Billy Bob

    OT: In defending themselves Co$ plays the bigotry against religion (especially theirs) card. YouTuber Steve Shives’ latest Monday Ramble shows a definition of religious bigotry very similar.
    Not spam ’cause I didn’t post the link.

  • Eclipse-girl

    Good night all

    • Ella Raitch

      Night EG

    • Liam

      G’night EG

  • Are_sics

    I just got a chance to watch the video tonight. Really a wonderful piece — hopefully on the “special features” of the DVD release! Even with all the spoilers — and I’ve read all the comments thus far, so had a LOT of spoilers — I loved watching the thing. In particular, I relished Wright’s response to the Luzadder question, even though I knew exactly what was coming.

    So many great comments, all day today, too. And great shoops! If I didn’t get to yours, please consider yourself voted up.

  • carwreck

    “a piece accusing Vanity Fair of lacking diversity, which is rich, coming from the whitest church on earth.”

    That’s not really fair. White supremacists have created some religious movements that say Adam and Eve were Aryan or whatever. These groups are a little bit whiter than CoS.

    • Jenstnick

      But CoS has eleventy billion people. So like the whitest mega church on earth.

  • Liam

    I feel a little weird about Rinder’s comments in the video. Does he believe in LRH or not.

    • Science Doc

      I believe in LRH, and Hitler and Dahlmer.

      • Liam

        You should get treatment for that

    • Frodis73

      IMO, no. I have no doubt about that. His statement about LM was a little concerning…I am willing to cut him slack as he is still coming out of the mind fuck…plus I think he is out enough that he is ashamed and guilty about a lot of things…that stuff is heavy to deal with.

      • Liam

        I see your point. I’m cutting him slack just because, he’s Mike Rinder, and he was in a helicopter. Over Superpower. Coolest move imaginable.

        • Ella Raitch

          Trudat

        • Frodis73

          Yeah, that helicopter was a kick ass play.

      • Vaquera

        Personally, I’m glad he gave a stunted answer this time around because I would not have wanted to miss out on any of the comments that the panel made subsequently due to time constraints. Does that make sense? I’m glad his comment didn’t take up any more time than it did.

        • Liam

          Yes that makes sense, Vaquera. I agree, also looking at his posture and facial expressions, I just suspect he was unhappy to be there.

          • Ruby

            I think you are wrong.

            • Liam

              I hope so, Ruby!

            • Ruby

              Just out of curiosity, Liam, are you a never-in or an Ex? Do you have any history in the cherch?

            • Liam

              Never in, Ruby

            • Ruby

              Well, thank you for your support in speaking up.

            • Liam

              U too, Ruby:)

  • Lady Squash

    That panel was a force of nature. Kudos to them all. I loved the last question and had wondered if the asker of it was a plant. Turns out he was and turns out that Wright’s answer, which was brilliant and true, must, must, must give that guy pause.

    • Liam

      “That panel was a force of nature.”

      Yes, indeed. Those forces of nature always lend an advantage. They rocked!

    • Artoo45

      Wasn’t that just delicious? With the exception of Rinder’s strangeness around the McPherson question, the whole thing was awesome. I said earlier, an I’ll say it again, I think I want people to see that discussion more than the movie.

      • Ella Raitch

        The guy who’d been in another cult got it for sure. There my be only <=30,000 left in Scientology, but there are other cults around, and other examples of coercive, controlling practices

      • Lady Squash

        It was delicious! And I agree that Rinder’s reaction to the McPherson question was odd. He was choosing his words a bit too carefully as if he was hiding something. He may have been under a non-disclosure agreement that he felt he still had to honor. I don’t know how much you know about the case, but to me the Church should have been held accountable for criminal neglect leading to death. Lisa McPherson was held prisoner and denied proper medical treatment for her condition. Rinder’s response was too PC for my tastes. It was a surprising question being as it has been quite a while since that case was in the news. But I am glad you picked up on that also.

  • Science Doc

    Night. A lot going on. If anybody has figured out the LA theatrical thing let me know. I’m game for anything that doesn’t end with PIs going through my garbage.

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    (sorry about the tardiness. I’ve been cramming)

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  • Liam

    Anyone have a good haiku for today?

    • about topic or scio in general

      • Liam

        In general:)

        • Lies within lies web
          Immortals fed on tranced souls
          And we died slowly

          • Liam

            Amazing.

          • Liam

            Did you intend to sum up Scientology in one haiku? U did it.

            • basically. all your haikuing over the past few days inspired me as I was waiting to fall asleep at 3am yesterday lolol. My first haiku : ) Thx for the kudos.Do you find yourself counting fingers all the time now? its kinda addicting

            • Liam

              you crack me up:)

              counting fingers all the time since the haiku craze started!!

            • Artoo45

              Me too. I look like I’m playing an invisible piano.

            • “invisible piano”
              : )
              yes yes exactly. I’m in the middle of doing flashcards and all of a sudden my invisible piano starts going.

          • im protective : )

    • Artoo45

      Five men meet on stage
      Truth rips through the firmament
      A tiny head pops

      • Liam

        Wow, I thought for sure your second line was in excess, but it wasn’t!!

        Nice haiku, Artoo!

  • Ruby

    Where’s Captain Howdy?

    • Vaquera

      He was here yesterday.

      • Ruby

        good. Thank you.

    • He is here.

  • cdub

    Finally got time to watch the TimesTalks video and it’s worth it. Smart people discussing the evil nature of Scientology. We need more of this and I’m guessing we’re going to get more, much more.

  • L. Wrong Hubturd

    Has Nat been around y’all? She was so bummed about the Jimmy3 incident, I’m worried about her, so add her to the Miss Tia worry wart list. Thanks.

    • Ella Raitch

      She said “ta ta for now” a few days ago, but that she would be reading the posts. She did post her email on the Sunday funnies before last (for Jimmy, but I’m sure she’d welcome other contacts).

      • obvious sock account

        Thank you. I missed that. I will talk to her. I owe the Bunker explanations and apologies. But it’ll have to be on installment plans.

        • Vaquera

          I thought that was you. 🙂

        • beauty for ashes

          This is Jimmy3?

          • obvious sock account

            Yes. I will never post under that handle again, but I’m the same guy.

            • Jimmy4 might work.

            • obvious sock account

              No, she’s not pregnant. That bitch was lying.

              Errr ? What are you talking about? Never mind

            • How is the doggie doing?

            • (Up above) do they always fight like this?

            • Vaquera

              Not always. 🙂

            • Ella Raitch

              It seems to happen in phases. It seems to happen between big news stories. The Bunker gets like a dog that’s bored with its chew toy and goes looking for trouble. ESMB goes through similar periods of introspection and angst.

              It does settle down though, and we have lots to look forward to.

            • mmmm…got it

            • Vaquera

              When osa (oh look, obvious sock puppet is osa, which I’m sure is no accident!) and Max or Howdy get in a battle of wits I sit back, watch, and generally enjoy the show.

            • i was kinda of in shock. cuz im like again??? i got into an arguement with J3/sockface last sunday, but as im watching today…im like okay i see what the story…interesting. i honestly didnt know it was a bunker long rivalry

            • Qbird

              I see. I think you’re spot on here Ella. I agree.

              Hey! Did you know that tejol was the 1st person in the underground bunker that actually replied to me? It was simply, “nice 1st post”.
              I was replying to ZiontologyFlunkStillKeyeedOutMasterTroller, but!
              I was really talking to the whole of the bunker.

              ha! it’s true. don’t think I ever told you Thank You for that. ;-D
              Seems to me the truth wants to win out – as so it does, eventually.
              I too am looking forward.

            • Yeah.

            • beauty for ashes

              Jesus, first I was freaked out by what you last said to me, and then I was offended when I found out it was you. My feelings are really hurt, Jimmy.

            • obvious sock account

              What’d I say to you?

            • beauty for ashes

              Maybe you should go back and read it yourself if you don’t remember. It was during the Niemoller conversation. I hope you do.

            • obvious sock account

              I don’t remember, and there are so many comments to wade through. Can you link to it?

            • Ella Raitch

              This is the approximate post

              http://tonyortega.org/2015/02/22/sunday-funnies-scientologys-latest-fliers-for-your-dissection-and-delectation/#comment-1870041931

              I can only get a link that loads the post, but doesn’t load the connecting posts – any hints anyone?

            • beauty for ashes
            • obvious sock account

              You’re absolutely right. That does read as hostility, and I’m very sorry that you were hurt by it. But please know it wasn’t personal. Lots of people were taking potshots at me that night, and now it seems like you were just trying to smooth it over, while at that time it seemed to me like you were just piling on. I’m sorry. You didn’t deserve that.

            • beauty for ashes

              Thank you, I’m glad you are taking responsibility for your actions.
              I really was trying to help, and I was watching a holocaust movie and being so affected by it.
              I didn’t like a simple thing taken out of context to start a fight. I probably should have stayed out of it! But I thought you were one of the new people, and didn’t want you scared off.
              I was freaked out by your reaction. I think I understand better what happened in your head now.
              So I’m glad you took the time to hear me out. Apology accepted. Take Care of Yourself! 🙂

            • obvious sock account

              I need to apologize to LongtimeLurker as well. I hope you read this. It wasn’t personal. You have a sharp wit, and many of your comments made us all laugh out loud. The Bunker shouldn’t be deprived of your contributions just because I’m an asshole. Come back.

        • Ella Raitch

          Sounds good to me. Now we just have to recover Nat. I didn’t get her email before she deleted it.

        • TheMirrorThetan

          If you would just let me keep you as a pet and give you belly rubs like I wanted ages ago you wouldn’t need instalment plans to pay me back 🙂

      • L. Wrong Hubturd

        Sorry to be dense, but I’ve just waded through some of Sunday and all of her posts now show as guest, so she’s deleted the account. There’s too much drama for me to get through. Anyone got that email for her handy? Thank you again.

        • obvious sock account

          Yes, do you remember when/where the post is? I need to contact her before L Wrong because I know he will try to put chemtrals in her brain.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            Step aside you smelly sock. I asked first.

            • obvious sock account

              She’s mine, buttplug! Step aside. And go wash yourself off. If you feel like it.

        • Ella Raitch

          Yep – just noticed the same. She deleted the post with her address (the post with the …..) I got nuthin.

          • obvious sock account

            Before I even read your comment I had sent her a way to contact me. I’m sure she’ll get it. It’ll be fine.

          • L. Wrong Hubturd

            That’s too bad. Nat, we love ya. Come back when you are ready my lady.

        • Qbird

          pm me L.Wrong.

    • Sandy

      Nat said she missed Espi et al. Think she is taking a break.

  • madame duran

    One would think that Paul Haggis, being originally from Canada, would have some sway in persuading a certain someone to arrange a theatrical release of “Going Clear” somewhere in the True North, Strong and Free (*cough*Ontario*cough*). But I am accustomed to disappointment. *pouts*

  • sorry if this has been mentioned … too money comments to check; but Lawrence Wright is the guest of Bill Maher this coming Friday on his HBO show

    pic

    http://www.monstersandcritics.com/john-ridley-david-axelrod-matt-taibbi-topline-real-time-with-bill-maher/

    • Artoo45

      Well, that ought to be a fun segment.

    • Ben Franklin

      Bill Maher on Scientology is never a dull moment

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DBhGcyqsfM8

      • giggler

        brilliant thanks

    • Nice. And speaking of Matt Taibbi:

      “True story: I once tried to do an expose on Scientology, back when I was with the Buffalo Beast. I
      went into the local Scientology office, gave a fake name and address,
      and tried to sign up and go through the test-taking process, etc., like
      an undercover thing. So I took the test and came in the next time, and
      before anything happened the guy running that office told me there was a
      problem with my paperwork. He asked me if the phony Buffalo address I
      had given him was my real address, and the reason he asked, he said, was
      because he had found another address for me — and it was my
      real address from my Bard College days in upstate New York. In other
      words, they had somehow found out my real name without my giving it to
      them, and in this creepy way they were letting me know they knew what I
      was up to. I asked to go to the bathroom, snuck out, and never went
      anywhere the hell near a Scientologist again. What was it you wanted me
      to read again?g”

      Read more: http://www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/mailbag-gas-prices-scientology-and-steroids-in-baseball-20110103#ixzz3TOUAexQQ

      • I remember reading an even spookier [similar-ish] story but have no idea where …. this is the gist of it: a journalist used a false name during a personality test (in L.A.) and the next time he came back (he “fell” for their course sell) he waited in his car which he just parked… a reg/sea org member came up and placed a leaflet under his windscreen wiper … he wasn’t too bothered as this guy was doing this to all the parked cars… until he eventually got out and looked at. The leaflet had his real name on it and said that he was paedophile and to be aware of this person… freaking out he went to the next car to grab the leaflet and noticed that it said something like “If you lie to us about who you are we can lie to anyone else about what you are” … I’m paraphrasing but that was the substance of it… he said that as a warning it scared the crap out of him.

        If anyone has the full story or source of this that would be great.

        • Frodis73

          Yikes. Hearing these stories is a great reminder of the power they used to have over the press. Thankfully those days seem to be behind us these days.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Haiku just for two
    Counting fingers all the time
    Unseen harpsichord

  • Todd Tomorrow

    ” you should have helped Snanky, Yeah.”
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sT2daisxdvA

    • beauty for ashes

      TT~ It’s spanky right?

  • Liam

    G’Night to the late niters
    make a nice poem or haiku about Scientology if you have the inclination;)

  • MaxSpaceman

    Thought theocracy
    In a Prison of Belief
    Scientology

    • oooooooooh good : )

      • **********************************ENTURBULATION ABOVE**************************

    • obvious sock account

      Not sure you know what theocracy means. But the syllables add up. Good job.

      • MaxSpaceman

        you’re not sure because you don’t know because drama is your queen.

        • obvious sock account

          What the fuck, Max? That was the worst insult I’ve ever read. Seriously. Give it another shot.

          • MaxSpaceman

            not the worst. you hissy-fit artist you.

            • obvious sock account

              You’re fucking terrible. But I wish you well. No more drama in the Bunker. Truce.

            • MaxSpaceman

              you’re worse than terrible as you want to drag Tony’s bungalow through yawning drama. Scientology is the subject. Truce.

            • obvious sock account

              I love you, MaxSpaceman.

            • MaxSpaceman

              Truce, sock.

            • He said he loves you, Max. Let’s leave it at that. May be he means it.

            • MaxSpaceman

              I left it at truce, Dodo.

            • Ella Raitch

              You’re a good Spaceman

            • You did. He started it.

            • obvious sock account

              I do. Life’s too short. No more drama. I will kill him later.

            • Did he cheat on you or something? Gosh.

            • Vaquera

              I don’t have any brothers, but that’s what I imagine they would sound like during their formative years. (I mean that in the best of sisterly ways)

            • Hahaha! Totally.

            • Ella Raitch

              I have sons and you are spot on.I was told by an older women with boys that if they don’t kill each other they will be best friends in by their mid 20’s (only about a decade to go)

            • my dad has three other brothers. they came over for football sunday one day. omg..i dont think ive ever seen grown men argue about shit that happened while they were teenagers. it was the funniest thing i had EVER seen in my life.

            • I just hope Max and Jimmy are not the same person.

            • i thought Longtime and J3 were the same person.

            • Who the fuck knows. Sorry for my language. Hence, STAY ON TARGET.

            • ay ay sir!

            • Ella Raitch

              Who is in you avi SPW?

            • its Venelope from Wreck it Ralph : )

            • Ella Raitch

              Aah – I haven’t seen that one. My peak time for kids movies ended with Shrek 2 (Cat in the Hat, Over the Hedge…)

            • oh it’s soooooo cute/good. you would love it. : )

              ETA: Venelope was a princess and was dethroned by a sociopath and was made to believe she was a “glitch” in the game computer system.

            • Ella Raitch

              My daughter’s spoken about it. I’ll give it a go next time I have a chance

            • Ella Raitch

              Good advice – any mention of troll or sock is a good time to collapse that section of the comments and move on….

            • Missionary Kid

              Amen!

            • Vaquera

              and now the room is spinning

            • Comes with the territory.

            • obvious sock account

              We’re not.

            • Why are you here?

            • obvious sock account

              That’s a good question.

            • Nice not answer.
              Good thing I didn’t ask – who are you?

            • obvious sock account

              That’s an even better question.

            • And even better non-answer.

            • TheMirrorThetan

              I think they both sound like 2 Sisters, more than 2 brothers.

      • it was supposed to be a pun on words silly

      • Just leave Max alone, dude. WTF.
        That’s not a good way to comeback.

        • obvious sock account

          You don’t know half the shit Max has said to me and about me. It’s always on old threads so most people don’t read it. If you think I started it, you’re wrong. I’ve agreed to ignore him several times, but he always finds an opportunity to insult me. Hopefully this time it sticks. And I’ll leave it at that.

          • How about we all STAY ON TARGET.

            • obvious sock account

              Fine with me. Fuck walmart.

            • Funny, but derail.

            • Ella Raitch

              And Pierrot’s here just in time to remind us that we can always be red Xing

          • Ella Raitch

            If not, then its binding arbitration for the two of you. And I know just where to find a good process…

            • TheMirrorThetan

              A long session in the purif saunas will cool things down.

          • Robert Eckert

            You demand proof from others but supply none yourself. You are the one whose credibility is very low at the moment, remember.

            • obvious sock account

              I just called for a truce with the guy to spare the Bunker unnecessary drama. But despite that, you’re now expecting me to dig through old logs and screenshots on an old hdd to make him look bad? I’ve posted all that shit before and no one cared. Not a single person. Just leave me alone, Robert. We’ll be fine.

            • Robert Eckert

              “you’re now expecting me to dig through old logs and screenshots” You were making precisely that kind of demand of others. You owe numerous apologies which you have been ducking.

              ” I’ve posted all that shit before and no one cared. Not a single person.” No, I haven’t seen you post anything of the sort, and I’m around every day.

            • obvious sock account

              Then you weren’t paying attention. I’ve posted often about Max.

              And I’ve never spoken to a ‘Liam’ before, but he shows up and accuses me of bullying him 2 years ago without providing any details. He won’t even say what name he was using. 2 years ago I was lurking and just barely starting to comment here. I certainly wasn’t bullying people. This guy is a blatant liar. But of course, you call me out for challenging him on his blatant lies.

              I can’t tell you how much respect I’ve lost for you Robert. Seriously, I thought you were wise.

            • Robert Eckert

              I pay a lot of attention, especially about running quarrels. I never saw you and Max go at it until last Sunday. If you think I should know about this then give me a link or a date or something.
              “Liam” is not the only one asking you to own up to past behavior. You came across as evasive and unapologetic in all your dealings with everybody. This creates concern about what you are doing here: some for example think Lurker was another sock of yours as part of a long con to make yourself liked and then start fake fights to split the community, others that you attacked and drove away a helpful newbie out of some kind of spite or jealousy.

            • obvious sock account

              Like I said, it was always on older threads, so most people didn’t read it. I’m not lying. And it’s not like Max tormented me. I gave him shit right back. I deleted my account, so going back and finding these occasions would be tedious, and I’m not going to do it. You are free to do so if you wish.

              As for me running socks in here, that’s just paranoid bullshit and I really wish you would stop promoting it. If LongtimeLurker was a sock, it was not mine. As far as I know, he’s a real person. And I’ve apologized to him and pray he comes back.

              I’m trying to quell the drama while you’re encouraging it. Like I said before, you’re just stirring up the shit. I’ll make things right again. But in the meantime, just leave me alone. Please?

            • Robert Eckert

              “Like I said, it was always on older threads” You gave the impression that you had brought it to the community’s attention before.

              “As for me running socks in here, that’s just paranoid bullshit” No, that’s what you did to start all this.

              “If LongtimeLurker was a sock, it was not mine.” I didn’t think he was. I was pointing out to you what kinds of stories are circulating from your hesitancy to come clean about what happened.

              “I’m trying to quell the drama while you’re encouraging it.” No I’m not. I am just telling you that rather than “quelling” any drama, your belligerent “oh yeah? I insulted you? prove it or STFU!” style responses keep it going.

              ” I’ll make things right again.” You don’t need to make things right with me.

            • obvious sock account

              “Like I said, it was always on older threads” You gave the impression that you had brought it to the community’s attention before.

              I did, quite a few times.

              your belligerent “oh yeah? I insulted you? prove it or STFU!” style responses keep it going.

              I didn’t say “prove it or STFU!” I said “Prove it and I’ll apologize.” But I knew with 100% certainty that he could not prove it. Because, again, he is an outright liar. He claims I bullied him because he was a newbie 2 years ago. But I was a newbie 2 years ago… I didn’t comment here yet. I was still lurking and trying to figure this out.

              So you may see it as belligerence, Robert, but I see it as a perfectly acceptable and justifiable defense of my character. If someone is telling blatant falsehoods about me, I’m going to try to defend myself. And this particular someone is one of the someones who really runs the sock accounts here. I’m sorry you can’t see it for what it is.

            • Robert Eckert

              You’ve been here since VV, although you adopted the Jimmy name only around a year and a half ago

              http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/10/scientology-moves-to-disqualify-monique-rathbuns-attorneys/#comment-1038079236

              Liam was formerly Zer0.

            • obvious sock account

              I was never at the VV. Maybe it seems that way, but it’s not so. I started reading the bunker in the spring of 2013. I started posting that summer.

              I’ve always liked Zer0, and he was always friendly with me in the brief encounters we’ve had. If he thinks I bullied him two years ago, he’s mistaken. It didn’t happen. And I really don’t believe that’s the same Zer0 I’ve spoken to.

            • Robert Eckert

              I seem to have confused your prior ID with Jgg, who still posts occasionally and has been with Tony since before I came.

            • obvious sock account

              Robert, let me ask you something on a completely different tangent. Have you ever seen someone dox me here or anywhere? Not sock accounts or whatever, but name/address/telephone? That sort of thing.

            • Robert Eckert

              No. When you first used the Jimmy name, and Max also popped into my argument with Lush using the “Beverly Hills Beer” name, I was suspicious that brand-new accounts were joining the fight. Both of you said you were not newbies but had been around before. Max refused however to say who he was and I badgered him about it until he left (eventually he rejoined, as Asthmatic Dwarf, then changed names a few more times; and I realized who he had been before, although I forget the old name now). You, however, acknowledged having posted before on one of those initials-plus-digits ID’s that used to be common; I forget what those initials were, and it doesn’t really matter now. I was hunting back for what your old ID was and when you started, and came across Jgg2012, who is somebody else entirely who is still here sometime and has never changed his antique ID, and that is why I mistakenly said you had been here since VV days.

            • obvious sock account

              I was asking because the other day, someone broke into my ISP’s cable box and severed our line. They didn’t cut it cleanly like they intended to split it, they bent and twisted it until it snapped. The technician thought it was someone looking to steal cable, but that they couldn’t unscrew it properly and got frustrated. But I don’t buy that. Where the box is, they couldn’t have run a line off it that would not be completely obvious. Especially not with a foot of hard snow on the ground. They didn’t even bring the tools to split it properly, so how were they going to run a covert line off it? No, I don’t believe it was someone looking to steal cable. If it was, they obviously have no idea what they’re doing.

              This happened in broad daylight, around 10:45 am on Thursday. No one saw it happen, but there are footprints in the snow leading to and from it. I also have a hard time believing it was a random act of vandalism. In the box they broke into, only our line was targeted. It seemed deliberate to me.

              But just now as I type this, there are several trucks around the neighborhood with their lights flashing. Working hard on a Saturday night. So maybe more boxes in the area were targeted as well. I don’t know. Hopefully I just got ahead of myself. I’ll ask them what happened.

            • Robert Eckert

              “If it was, they obviously have no idea what they’re doing.” Most criminals are surprisingly stupid.

            • obvious sock account

              Yeah. I know I’m not enough of a threat to be targeted by Scientology. That’s ridiculous. I have no information that isn’t already on the net. So I wasn’t assuming that was the case. I just don’t know anyone around here who would do that, so I was wondering if it was someone Ive spoken to online. But now that there are trucks up and down the street, I’m thinking maybe it was random after all. A little bit of paranoia never hurts.

            • obvious sock account

              Oh, and to answer your question, it was jvm, which is similar as you said. The reason you can’t find it now is because I didn’t create a new account, I just changed the display name to Jimmy Threetimes. I created a new account later because I didn’t want it to be associated with an email account I actually use. So I created a new account with a throwaway email, but I never knew the password to that email account. It was just gibberish. But I found that some Disqus sites require you to verify your email in order to post. So I created ANOTHER account with another throwaway that email I could actually login to to verify.

              At some point, I changed all three Disqus display names to ‘Jimmy3’, specifically so it wouldn’t be confusing if someone read back through the comments. But I guess it made it more confusing? I really wasn’t trying to deceive anyone. For the last year or so I’ve only posted under the newest account. I hope that clarifies some of it.

            • Robert Eckert

              Max, as far as I’ve been able to tell, has only used one name at a name. He told me at one point that he abandoned his first account to shed a stalker that he picked up, although I don’t really understand why he has felt any need to change names as frequently as he has.

            • obvious sock account

              It’s not just that he uses new names. He writes long ‘new member’ introductions as if he’s someone brand new. If he just changed names and told everyone it’s Max, that would be one thing. But the constant lying about having never posted here creeps me out. I’m not sure what his motivation is. He once explained that he goes through mood swings and ‘different phases.’ I used to suspect he simply enjoys the attention and welcomes that new members receive on their first post. But I don’t know.

              I like Max. I just wish he wouldn’t do that. I’ve caught him several times. He has an easily recognizable pattern.

              But I’ll leave him alone from now on. It’s not worth it.

            • obvious sock account

              And just so you know, I’m going to edit and delete some of the personal posts I’ve written tonight. Only because they could be used for deduction. I was writing them to you on an old post. I didn’t intend for everyone to read them. Feel free to screenshot them for posterity, if you wish.

            • Robert Eckert

              No need. Wipe away.

            • obvious sock account

              Everything was easier when I had someone to wipe for me.

            • Robert Eckert

              I was, and still am, inclined to think it most probable that the cable-cutters were just some dumb criminals/vandals but in view of the stories these past couple days from Mike, Hole, Sid, Chuckichita, maybe you could shoot an e-mail to Tony about it?

            • generic sock account

              Which stories?

            • Robert Eckert

              http://tonyortega.org/2015/03/10/scenes-from-a-going-clear-screening-alex-gibney-at-the-truefalse-festival/#comment-1900237815

              Tony says he heard about OSA harassment from 7 people, mostly uninvolved with Going Clear, after the castration threat to Rinder; he didn’t identify them but a couple did after Hole made her post.

            • generic sock account

              It seems all those people are exes, major critics or Clearwater protestors. I’ve cracked a few stupid jokes about about Miscavige. Still don’t see why I’d be worth going after. But I’ll let him know just for the record.

            • Robert Eckert

              Yeah, it’s unlikely you would make their hit list. If they wanted to Fair Game me, they would know where to find me, and there’s no hint of it– unless they’re so inept their attempts to bother me have gone unnoticed.

        • daytoncapri

          Using sock in the name? Not a good way either.

      • Liam

        Hi J3T, about 2 years ago you harassed me and called me names on several occasions because you didn’t respect me as a newbie

        • he pissed off a lot of people sunday liam.I got into a small arguement with him. i would not expect much. just leave it alone.

          • Liam

            done, thx SPW!

        • obvious sock account

          Prove it and I’ll apologize.

          • Liam

            Who’s the big boss man now

            • obvious sock account

              I’ve never spoken to you Liam, not that I can remember. I’m not a big boss man. Not at all. But you’re accusing me of bullying you and I don’t know who the hell you are. So tell me what your handle was and what I said to you, and I’ll read it and explain what I meant.

            • Liam

              We’ve spoken on many occasions

            • obvious sock account

              Okay, but in which specific circumstances was I mean to you? When did I bully you? I’ve always been kind to genuine newbies. So maybe a mistake was made that we can rectify. If I said something you took the wrong way, I’m sorry. But I’d like you to show when and where it happened if you’re going to label me as a bully. Because I’m not.

            • you gave me shit for being a newbie last sunday. what are you talking about? I was the “the dude talking shit that no one knows” even though i posted here last year. you obviously have lost track of the upset you caused. call it a night. clean slate just make an announcement that you are sorry. like right now. up above.

            • obvious sock account

              I don’t care if someone is a newbie or not, but you were posting under a brand new name and trying to flame me. You changed it later. You know this is true.

            • uuuum. i was not trying to flame anyone.

            • obvious sock account

              What name / avatar were you posting under?

            • same name. i think that day it was wogsy for a few hours but still i spoke to you under super power wog. i was a white cat chick. yes i lashed out at you for giving me shit for no reason. i wont ask for an apology though. i dont need it.

            • obvious sock account

              Wrong.

            • what?

            • obvious sock account

              You were WOGSY with a blank avatar. That’s why I said what I did about not knowing who you are. Don’t lie about it after the fact.

            • i just said i was wogsy up above. my avi was not blank though. it was a pencil drawn cat girl against a white background, and im not a liar.

            • obvious sock account

              What you said above is that you were speaking to me under your usual handle, and that’s not the truth. But I don’t care. I don’t wish to fight with you. I’m sorry.

            • apology accepted. carry on. word of advice though. you should just make a psa that you are sorry. clean slate.

            • obvious sock account

              No. I’ll apologize to those I’ve offended on an individual basis. Then I’ll stop posting for a while, only to come back and start cranking out lame jokes again. It’ll be great. Or mediocre. Whatever. It’s like pizza.

            • i sent you a message on your other account did you ever get it?

              https://disqus.com/by/jvx3/

            • i guess not

            • obvious sock account

              No, I haven’t read it. I can’t log in to that account at the moment because the password is buried in an old, dusty notebook somewhere else. I have no idea what it was. Just tell me the date.

            • gosh i can’t remember. but disregard. it was supposed to be read then and there.

            • obvious sock account

              I’d love to read it. Copy/paste and send to obvsoxacct @ gmail dot com.

            • Todd Tomorrow

              Have yo got yourself into some meetings?

            • Playing any music right now?

            • obvious sock account

              I just learned about this group. I like them so far. This is called the hip hop.
              http://youtu.be/S5TnPjOd_To

            • Cool. Blast from the past.

            • obvious sock account

              No answer.

    • Liam

      Good one! (I have insomnia, and have no reason to be up this late)

      • Ella Raitch

        This is a 24/7 gig – always someone around to chat with

  • …well alrighty then…starting to see the bigger picture here….

  • Max and Jimmy are in the same room again alert!

  • ******************************************enturbulation below****************************************

  • 1subgenius

    Tin foil alert. (please ignore)

    The guy shot by LAPD

    “Using the name Robinet, the man was identified as a French national in 2000 when he was convicted of robbing a Wells Fargo branch and pistol-whipping an employee in an effort to pay for acting classes at the Beverly Hills Playhouse”

    .http://www.foxnews.com/us/2015/03/04/officials-say-man-shot-by-lapd-stole-frenchman-identity-was-wanted-by-us/

    Who the hell is that desperate for acting lessons?

  • BlondesAreDumb

    People magazine (large distribution to the populace) has picked up on the Interview datapoint that Cruise and Travolta have responsibility to call out DM to respond to criticism. Not sure mentioned prior. More advertising for documentary and reach to the public.

    • MaxSpaceman

      that’s a sea change. and it will be very, very difficult for the 2 of them to squirm out of answering the tough questions.

      • I doubt that they will get him to speak out. Dm has to keep his “ethics presence”.

        “Ethics presence is an X quality made up partly of symbology, partly of force, some “now we’re supposed to’s” and endurance.

        One of the reasons the press now print what we say is that we have endured the biggest shellackings anybody could muster up. We’ve gained ethics presence publicly by it.

        Endurance asserts the truth of unkillability. We’re still here, can’t be un- mocked. This drives the SP wild.

        Because of the Sea Org we appear to have
        unlimited reach and, in some mys¬terious way, unlimited resources. The
        ability to appear and disappear mysteriously is a part of ethics
        presence.

        As an executive you get compliance because you have ethics presence and persistence and can get mad.”

        http://www.suppressiveperson.org/sp/archives/2183

    • Ella Raitch

      *groan* and now an indie has joined the discussion on the People article

      • link?

        • People are normally very friendly to the cult so this title is quite a move away (they see the wrtiting on the wall, ed)

          http://www.people.com/article/scientology-documentary-tom-cruise-john-travolta

          pic

          • Thank you dear. very much appreciated.

          • This is a really good sign.

          • ScnMonkeyNuts

            Whenever someone I know starts admitting admiration for TC, I tend to immediately show them the KSW ad from the mid noughties, (usually they didn’t make it through the whole video!) whereupon they express less admiration and more “Wow! That guy’s a complete nutburger!” 🙂

            • Xenu bless Anonymous…. would love to see the outtakes of that video (Tom, your laugh needs more cackle)

            • that was hilarious.i wish anonymous would make another darn video to scientology though.

        • Ella Raitch
          • thk you. : )

          • beauty for ashes

            Nice work Ella~ I wanted to throttle “Bababoey.” Just disgusting.

            • Ella Raitch

              The fact that Gibney and Wright between them have taken on the Catholic Church and Al Qaeda nullifies the usual false equivalency argument that defenders or trollers use. They’re going to have to come up with a better argument.

              The longer you do this the more you see the patterns. I really noticed the loaded language today. Having seen only yesterday the mild manners and sincerity of the TimesTalk panel, the words hate, attack etc used by Bababooey and Iarrthóir Fírinne stood out.

              Still not sure if they are Scientologists or other trollers.

            • beauty for ashes

              Yeah the weird troll has definite overlapping tendencies. Not sure if he’s worth arguing with. Good on you for trying.

            • giggler

              me too!!

            • beauty for ashes

              IKR? I don’t have skills to argue with that kind of mentality. Just want to scream why you being such a poopie head?

  • Pierrot

    *** RED X +–+** RED X ** +–+ RED X *** Wednesday the 4th of March
    Good day All,
    I am early as I will be out for the next few hours.
    1. There is this finance guy with the $cientology CV in NY (& Denver!) who is begging to be reported for spamming see Regional List & today’s Daily Wip.
    Here is how it was done for Boston: https://whyweprotest.net/threads/taking-down-co-on-craigslist-co-ads-on-craigslist.113779/page-118#post-2514616
    2. Tp, SF, Houston and Canada are steady and regular “remover”, can I have a feed back on the method used!

    RedX spreadsheet: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-Kvg78kCcvo5gL7UfPcmhmbsagTNtdj0y2LAiHVFrCU/pubhtml

    (F5, …) for High Queen by Chriscoldenhanced by DodoTheLaser for RedX, and flickred by Aeger Primo https://www.flickr.com/photos/120371503@N05/16067809973/in/set-72157642802079293

    • Good morning, Pierrot.

      • Pierrot

        good morning Dodo

  • this is the most recent photo of Cruise… it looks like he’s done something to his face again… doesn’t seem to be him, kind looks like a body double of himself… well IMO anyway

    • Ella Raitch

      Guy Ritchie is looking very Ray Winstone-y in that pic

    • it looks like him for sure with like a ALOT of botox in his lower cheeks.

    • Lurkness

      Looks like some eye work too.

    • beauty for ashes

      He looks like he’s been drinking lots of beers and eating late night pizzas by himself.

    • Scream Nevermore

      Bloated/swollen/fatter face. Guy Ritchie looks terrified!

      • Todd Tomorrow

        I hung out at, The Puchbowl when I lived in London as it was my local. Nice guy but he is an obvious alcoholic.

  • Vaquera

    Before I trundle off to bed, I’ll leave you all with a O/T late night snack. These photos are from the Mexico Org Unido’s “Noche Tropical” party on Saturday night. (Last weekend they held the Vasolina! party.) Black face and afro wigs. Talk amongst yourselves. Nighty-night. F5

    • Ella Raitch

      *head hits desk*

    • ScnMonkeyNuts

      Thanks, that will certainly give the morning shift something to choke over their cornflakes about 🙂 (here in Englandshire, we considered that kind of behaviour to be in bad taste at least 30 years ago!)

    • TheMirrorThetan

      Very classy. There really is nothing that is too low for scientologists behaviour is there.

      • squirrel

        Wowwwww. I’d pay to see them try to this in Harlem.

  • I will not be here in 7 am. Red X Volunteers are welcome. Good day to every one.

    • Nite dtl.

    • Ella Raitch

      See you later Dodo

    • Lurkness

      Have a good one!

    • beauty for ashes

      Good night Dodo, thank you for always being who you are. (((((((((hugs)))))))))

  • beauty for ashes

    Man I need a neck rub! Can we all do one of those circles like those scientologists did? (if they were actually doing a mambo line I’m totally not up for that!)

    • Ella Raitch

      Maybe a good stretch will do it. I’ve been on here far too long today. I need to figure out how to combine my interneting with physical exercise

      • make interneting a positive reinforcement (a treat). For every time you run for 25 min. you internet all day without feeling guilty.

        • Ella Raitch

          Running and I parted ways long ago – however I will try and get up early tomorrow and take the dog to the dog beach

  • ….yawn. i think im gonna hang out at the krishna blog. it got kinda weird in here again. gnite.

    https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=lindsey+stirling+radioactive

  • sugarplumfairy

    The new People article is a beautiful thing.. Lawrence Wright’s tweet is a beautiful thing.. Hooray, Wright, Gibney, Rinder, Haggis and our Tony!! Yay!!!

    • Intergalactic Walrus

      Not only is the article amazing but they embedded last night’s TimesTalks video! Along with the link to that sewage spill of a website (Freedom Magazine’s smear against Going Clear) which totally confirms how deranged CO$ is. Nice.

      • Ella Raitch

        It’s a trifecta

  • just a pic from the archives… this was when Cruise was actually getting good advice…

  • Tory Christman

    What a discussion! Thank each one of you, very, very much. We knew 2015 was going
    to be a *hot* year….but things are just getting better and better as the days roll on. 🙂 Chris
    says all I want to say for now: thank you. Tory/Magoo

  • Sydjazz

    Party party happy birthday xers. What a great day to put itnin the cinemas. Wooohoooo

  • EnthralledObserver

    Took all day off and on, but I finally got through the whole vid – great conversation – seemed to cover a great deal of the important stuff! 🙂

  • Intergalactic Walrus

    In response to a tweet “Looking forward to seeing the film in LA. Do you know where yet?”
    Alex Gibney replied: “Arclight March 13”
    https://twitter.com/alexgibneyfilm/status/572873152239284224

  • Scream Nevermore
    • Jack99

      “Indeed our Church has donated hundreds of thousands of copies of these books and lectures to public libraries.”
      Too bad there is no interest for these books, they’re just taking up space, so the libraries put them on sale piles.

      • Scream Nevermore

        I suggested that instead, they should distribute the food and kit their VMs lift from disaster zones. No reply, as usual!

    • Rasha

      “Writing about ourselves in an opinion column is the best we can do, because it kind of looks like a real article, if you’re not paying attention.” Uh, huh. And what was that you just said about objectivity? Maybe you should stick to “human rights education” and “disaster relief”

      “I’m touching your knee, can you feel that?”
      “Dear god, my house is gone! Where are the kids??”
      “Thank you. Can you feel this?”

  • Scream Nevermore

    For you chaps in the USA –

    CBS This Morning ‏@CBSThisMorning
    4 minutes ago

    .@alexgibneyfilm & @lawrence_wright join us today to discuss @HBO’s “Going Clear”, based on Wright’s in-depth book on #Scientology

  • sookiesookie
    • Ella Raitch

      If Will Smith isn’t a Scientologist, how does that explain Jaden and Willow?

      • bromo

        Jada perhaps?

      • sookiesookie

        Wackadoo comes in a wide variety of flavors…?

    • They say they “sat down with Tony and Mike Rinder”….. hmmmm, let’s hear what Tony actually has to say about this.

  • bromo

    After a 14 hour work day yesterday, I am looking forward to watching the video today. Glanced at the People article and the troll in the comments gave me a headache. Way to start the morning. LOL

    • bromo

      Replying to myself but that was an hour or so well spent. Everyone needs to watch it!

  • Panopea Abrupta

    The Countdown continues 🙂

  • PoisonIvyHerself

    Oooh Mr. Ivy & my film premiered at the Arclight in LA! That’s a great venue – HBO is going all out! Can we buy early tickets for the Lincoln Center premiere? It’s right around the corner from Chez Ivy NYC…

  • Linae Anderson

    The picture of new-clear Dave with his goofy childlike smile and handwritten sign makes me profoundly sad. He hasn’t yet realized that those big shiny things he’s clutching are full of gas. Hope deals the hardest blows.

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  • richelieu jr

    Dave may be ‘clear’ but he certainly isn’t very clear on the principles of aerodynamics and simple physics.

    No way those balloons are flying him anywhere.

    • Imagica

      Is it just me or does Dave resemble Jerry from Parks and Recreation?

    • SkyBill40

      I looked at that image and something immediately came to mind when I saw the look on his face:

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtDAK7Umk7A