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HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

HOW SCIENTOLOGY COERCED A CHILD TO HAVE AN ABORTION: THE LAURA DECRESCENZO FILES

—————- In anticipation of her biggest day in court yet, Laura DeCrescenzo and her attorneys hit the Church of Scientology with 928 pages of new filings —————- Details from 18,000 pages of evidence show how Scientology manipulated a child to keep her working under slave-like conditions —————- A key document describing DeCrescenzo’s unwillingness to have her coerced abortion is missing from the evidence Scientology was ordered to produce By Tony Ortega Wednesday afternoon, Laura DeCrescenzo filed explosive new information in her four-year legal odyssey against the Church of Scientology, submitting 928 pages of new declarations and exhibits in anticipation of a crucial October 23 hearing in her lawsuit against the church which alleges abuse, including allegations that she was forced to have an abortion at only 17 years of age. Key to the new filings is information gleaned from thousands of pages of previously secret files that the church fought mightily to keep under wraps. But on Monday, the U.

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Gary Weber: Another former Scientology official talks about women forced to have abortions

Gary Weber was one of several GO members who paraded outside the Clearwater Sun offices in 1979 to protest how the newspaper was treating Scientology

Gary Weber was one of several GO members who paraded in Nazi uniforms outside the Clearwater Sun offices in 1979 to protest how the newspaper was treating Scientology

Gary Weber first went public about his past as a member of Scientology’s Guardian’s Office seven or eight years ago at Arnie Lerma’s site. It’s an excellent read, and we recommend that you go over there for the full account from Gary about his tenure as a Scientologist, a member of the Sea Org, and an operative in Scientology’s original spy corps, the GO.

He’s now agreed to a video interview with Karen de la Carriere, and we’re happy to premiere the first episode today.

We also talked to him last night by telephone, and he told us about what he did as a Guardian’s Office member, circa 1979: “I would go into the Org and get these folders of the parishioners, and brought them to the GO, where they were putting together dead-agent packs for anyone who might turn on them.”

Yes, another account from someone in a position to know that Scientology takes the secrets members give up during counseling sessions so they can be used against them later if they dare to leave or criticize the church.

Now, let’s take a look at his video interview…

 

 
After we heard Gary talking about being just one of several people helping to enforce the forced-abortion rule at Flag in Clearwater, Florida, we remembered Gary ‘Jackson’ Morehead saying he was doing the same thing at Scientology’s International Base in California…

 

 
So now we’ve heard from two former enforcers who each were involved in forcing Sea Org women to go to clinics to have unwanted abortions so they could keep working 100-hour weeks for pennies an hour.

Gary Weber says the Sea Org’s no-children rule was handed down in about 1982. He knows, because he and his wife Kelly were allowed to have a daughter in 1981. But the next time Kelly got pregnant, they were under intense pressure to end the pregnancy. (Since Karen has held back the result of that story until next time, we’ll not spoil it. Part two is coming soon, we have no doubt.)

That rule stayed in place until 2009, when the Tampa Bay Times exposed it in their monumental series, “The Truth Rundown.” After that, we’re told, the Sea Org modified its rules and now just remove couples that get pregnant from the Sea Org.

But the change in that rule didn’t come fast enough to prevent Laura DeCrescenzo, Claire Headley, and many other women from being forced to terminate their pregnancies. Readers here know that we’ve been following Laura’s lawsuit over her forced abortion very closely.

Gary Weber is among only a very few former Guardian Office members who have come forward to describe their time in Scientology’s original spy operation. By the time he joined in 1978, the GO’s days were numbered. The previous year, the FBI had raided the church over the GO’s burglarizing of federal government offices, and eleven of the GO’s top officials — including Mary Sue Hubbard, wife of the founder — would eventually go to prison. By 1981, the GO had been dissolved, replaced by the Office of Special Affairs, which today operates as Scientology’s intelligence wing.

Many of those original Guardian’s Office members still remain in the church — including some of the ones who went to prison. But if you’re a former GO operative, we’d like to hear from you. Please drop us a line.

 
Now, on to our regularly scheduled Sunday Funnies! And speaking of the Office of Special Affairs, we were practically knocked on our keister when we saw this flier, sent in by one of our tipsters. We’re used to seeing Scientology’s appeals to join staff, but OSA? Wow. We sense a whiff of desperation…

 
OSAPromo

 
After the Super Power Building opened with all that fanfare — and after 15 long years of construction — we know you must have been wondering, what Big Beings will be the first to go through the perceptics floor (and the oiliness table!) and finish the Super Power rundowns? Well, now we can tell you that two of the first to finish were Grant Cardone and his lovely wife Elena, whom we have featured in the past for her sage advice.

 
Elena_Cardone

 
If you happen to be a Scientologist in any of the cities listed on the left side of this graphic, we hope you have one of those chains on your wallet, or this is going to be a rough year…

 
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Things always look so peachy at Ron’s home in England, Saint Hill Manor. Look at that lawn!

 
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We can never get enough testimonials. Tell it, Oleg!

 
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We love L. Ron Hubbard quotes. No matter how smooth they start out, you know they’re going to end up making you scratch your head, nogginwise…

 
London Ideal Org

 
And finally, when you can’t keep your Ideal Org staffed in one of the biggest areas for Scientologists in the world, what does that say?

 
NowHiringSigns

 
Thanks again to our great tipsters!

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on January 12, 2014 at 07:00

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  • domitare

    Elena Cardone looks levely in the poster . . . and then she spoke :^(~

  • Mark

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      “Front to back.” The most valuable words to pass Dear Founder’s lips.

      • Mark

        What about “Don’t use Vaseline, it rots the rubber”?

    • InterestedinCrazy

      I love this! :)

  • http://www.angrygaypope.com/ Angry Gay Pope

    I hope you all like the video :)

    • MaxSpaceman

      You rock the house, AGP, you do !!

    • OrangySky

      Great job.

      • joan nieman

        Thank you AGP! Oh yes! We do enjoy your videos very much and appreciate all you do.

    • Sarah James

      Love everyone of your video’s!!!:-)

    • hansje brinker

      Good work!

    • Rita Gregory

      Love it AGP!

    • Snippy_X

      AGP, your videos are great! We watch them around here for the scene changes and dramatic music choices as much as we do for the skits and interviews. The comedic touches are brilliant, imh.

    • Missionary Kid

      Your videos are getting better (in sound quality) all the time. Give ‘em hell.

    • WhamBham

      Love you AGP. waiting for more youtube videos with you haggling, bothering etc the coo coos on the sidewalks near the cult.

    • NOLAGirl

      AGP, your videos are wonderful. I wish you could hear us all cheering you on when you’re “visiting” the orgs. :)

  • D.Y.G.

    Oleg is 40 years old and wearing Quiksilver. Kill me now.

  • D.Y.G.

    The whole situation infuriates me! It’s not JUST the coerced abortions – it’s the fact that these people, the senior staff, made the arrangements to keep milking subsidized clinics to do it! I don’t know if people realize that places like this often have to scrape and beg just to survive month to month. And this fucking church has been sitting on wads of cash for decades.

  • Tony Ortega

    Scientology ad in playoff game right now.

    • NOLAGirl

      Just flipped back to see if I’d missed it…McDonald’s, USAA insurance, crooked NOLA politicians running for reelection, Microsoft…Nope, still not airing down here. :)

    • Missionary Kid

      Not in my market.
      Low desert California.

      • Sandy

        Also, they must of decided that Minnesota Lutherans would probably not be interested. ;o

        • Missionary Kid

          They put the commercials on for the clams. Is there an org or mission in Minnesota? If there is, I’ll bet it’s small.

          I’m wondering if they bothered with Clamwater.

          They did L.A. because there are more clams there than anywhere else

          • Robert Eckert

            Thidney says they hit the Tampa market at morning local news hour

            • Missionary Kid

              It probably cost a lot less to buy time then.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Argggh. My husband keeps changing channels during commercials on playoffs.
              Maybe by tomorrow we’ll see Something. Don’t they buy commercials in blocks of time?

          • VickiStubing

            Ideal mOrgue in St. Paul, Baby! I can’t find my pics :( was finally gonna share them. Bummer.

            • Missionary Kid

              I asked Sandy this same question, “Does the location get much foot traffic, and how active does it look like?” at her post. http://tonyortega.org/2014/01/12/gary-weber-another-former-scientology-official-talks-about-women-forced-to-have-abortions/#comment-1197805713

            • VickiStubing

              Wish I could tell ya more, but I was touristing and only drove past the mOrgue because we took a wrong turn! Talk about luck! DH saw it first and drove as slow as traffic would allow so I could get a couple of shots. The interior shot I got needs to be edited (I got my handsome hubby in the shot!), but here are two exteriors.
              ETA: This was middle of the day on a weekday, spring of 2012 (wow, how time flies).

            • Missionary Kid

              Is the whole building Co$? That air bridge leads to another building.

            • VickiStubing

              Alas, I was a mere tourist and have no deets. You might try http://idleorgs.com/ for more info.

          • Sandy

            There is a small org in St Paul. That’s all I know of. THDNE said her husband saw one on a Tampa area station

    • MaxSpaceman

      New York market ?

    • Yan117

      Good news

      • DamOTclese2

        Now you qualify for “Humanitarian!” Congrats!

    • Robert Eckert

      I hope you’re tweet-harvesting for us!

    • Science Doc

      Not where I think they would reach a receptive audience.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Tony O is usually in New York City market, a viewing audience of 20 million.

        • Science Doc

          Right, but if don’t see too many football fans putting down the beer and running to the local org.

          • Yan117

            People who have never heard about the dangers related to that orwelian monstrosity of a cult are becoming a rarity, thanks to many brave men and women. I’m afraid there will be more victims of scientology (never capitalize that word, my rule). It’s our job to make sure that as many people as possible are aware of the perils they bring. In that regard, many of us would be able to write up a list of saints and heroes who made and are making this fight, an ineluctable victory. Some anonymous, some not. All for one and one for all.

          • Drat

            For a different kind of can…?

    • Espiando

      Again, no Bears, who cares?

      • Sandy

        Come on … Howdy is 49ers… Be a team player ;o)

        Vikes are always out …

        • Robert Eckert

          49ers already won their game. This was Chargers-Broncos game. Headleys are in Colorado so I guess Bunker should root for Broncos (sorry any San Diegans who may be out there). 4th quarters Broncos are up 17-7

          • Sandy

            I know, Robert. I am Broncos cuz I have family in Montana and they are Bronco fans …

      • Jon Hendry

        I’m sure there are lots of stocky bearded guys.

  • Michael Leonard Tilse

    In honor of sunday funnies, an old joke posted years ago on a.r.s.:

    Group: alt.religion.scientology Date: Thu, Jul 24, 2003, 1:21am (CDT+5) From: ShyDavid@whitehouse.gov (ShyDavid)

    A man died and went to heaven. As he stood in front of St. Peter at the Pearly Gates, he saw a huge wall of clocks behind him. He asked, “What are all those clocks?”

    St. Peter answered, “Those are Lie-Clocks. Everyone on Earth has a Lie-Clock. Every time you lie, the hands on your clock will move.”

    “Oh,” said the man, “whose clock is that?”

    “That’s Mahatma Gandhi’s clock. The hands have never moved, indicating that he never told a lie.”

    “Incredible,” said the man. “And whose clock is that one?”

    St. Peter responded, “That’s Abraham Lincoln’s clock. The hands have moved twice, telling us that Honest Abe told only two lies in his entire life.”

    “Where’s L. Ron Hubbard’s clock?” asked the man.

    “Hubbard’s clock is in Jesus’ office. He’s using it as a ceiling fan.

  • Truthiwant

    I’ve just watched Karen’s video.

    I quote Gary Weber’s words:

    “Basically, the Guardian’s Office was more concerned with the press, rather than making sure that abortions were being done. That was being done by Ethics.”

    Abortions were being done by Ethics!

    The core principles of Scientology are Ethics. Not only is Scientology known as the most ethical group on the planet, but the most ethical people within the Organization are, or should be, those people who are trying to ‘Keep Ethics in’ or, in other words, the MAA, or the Ethics Officers themselves, And these were the people coercing Sea Org members to have an abortion!

    Words fail me.

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      The same here. That was absolutely chilling. And the description from Gary Moorhead talking about how the church would specifically find people with strong influence over a women to convince her to have an abortion and that, many times, the woman was so frightened that she would, as he put it, “self-elect” to have an abortion. What kind of “religion” is this, that finds one’s weak points specifically to exercise control over you, and that inculcates you with fear as a means of control, but bleats on TV about how the “religion” is about freedom? An evil one.

      • Truthiwant

        When I was ‘in’, I never knew anything about abortions, Or for that matter, I never knew anything about anything negative.
        However, I did know about Scientology’s selling techniques and I can tell you for sure now that those techniques are the same ones used to convince somebody to have an abortion. ALL their techniques are based on convincing somebody to do something that has a benefit for the Organization. It has nothing to do with ethics. It has only to do with making the Organization richer or work better at the cost of anything.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Scientology does it again! Another ad on CBS, and the raves are pouring in on Twitter:

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe you’re in the L.A. market. So far we’ve got L.A. & NY,

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        My wife follows Michael Symon. She is pretty sure he is in New York.

        • D.Y.G.

          His home base is Cleveland.

          • Sandy

            True, but he tapes in New York

    • Robert Eckert

      Travis Nardella ‏@travis_nardella7m

      Also, the Figure Skating Championships just showed a Scientology commercial.

      duggernuts has a parody out:

      http://www.vidaddict.com/scientology-commercial-parody/

      • MaxSpaceman

        In Detroit, $cilon commercial on Figure Skating network broadcast.?

        • Robert Eckert

          No, I didn’t see it, “Travis Nardella” did, whoever and wherever he is.

          EDIT: his home is in New Jersey

    • Missionary Kid

      In my reply to you, I meant that the commercials were only shown in the L.A. and New York markets.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I did catch that, just slowly.

      • DamOTclese2

        There have also been tweets from people expressing delight that their local advertising markets did not have the Scientology ads. :) Gods how amusing. Doesn’t that violent sociopath realize that the whole damn world laughs at his frauds now?

        • Missionary Kid

          Not the entire world, unfortunately, laughs at DM & Co$. It’s up to us to “disseminate” the word about how fucked up it is. Once people know about ti, they’ll start shaking their heads in wonder, but we’ve got to make sure that the knowledge and attitude about the insane cult is out there.

    • DamOTclese2

      I am loving these Tweets, and re-tweeting the best and watching other people re-tweet them as well. Amusingly “Scientology” was trending today and it was everyone either laughing or wondering what the fuck with lots of people surprised that the crime syndicate still exists. :)

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    From Michael Symon, one of the hosts of ABC’s The Chew:

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Responses to Michael Symon (host of ABC’s The Chew):

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    More!

    • D.Y.G.

      Hey, those ads seem to be going over *really* well. A exceptionally good use of funds, IMHO.

      Or possibly not.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Love this snark:

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Another string. Michael Symon has a lot of fans, it seems.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I see Scientology 411 in there!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Like this one…

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Funny thing about that jab from Michael Symon. Kirstie was on The Chew just a few weeks ago, tub thumping for her new TV show. Guess she really impressed the hosts…!

  • MaxSpaceman

    This is what their ad. will deliver, in across-the-board services. As stated by L. Ron Hubbard, Founder, The Cult of $cientology Inc.
    .
    “”The alleviation of the condition of insanity has also been accomplished now.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, November 1970, “Psychosis”

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    LOVE the bookends on this one!

    • Jgg2012

      If the Chargers win, it will be BECAUSE of that ad. If they lose, the ad will have had nothing to do with it.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Now there’s a brilliant display of those awesome, awesome OT Powers!

    • DamOTclese2

      “Shoot me” — LOL!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Hey Scientology 411! Good one!

    • Robert Eckert

      I liked this one:

      *Baseball Chickie!* ‏@baseballchickie2m

      Next commercial break during the #NFL Playoffs: Scientology followed by Christian Mingle followed by Viagra then Wellbutrin.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Nearly grabbed that one! They are coming in too thick and fast. It’s like a grunion run of snark.

        • Robert Eckert

          It showed up in one of your subsequent grabs.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Services of The Cult of $cientology Inc., which is promising to deliver this:

    “Scientology is used to increase spiritual freedom, intelligence, ability and to produce immortality.” — L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS AND SCIENTOLOGY TECHNICAL DICTIONARY, copyright 1975, reprinted 1987, p. 370

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Here’s an odd lot. See that some are making money off all this…

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Kyle is wise…

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Made me laugh:

    • woodrose

      I feel your pain, Mouse. Maybe you should join the Bunker and hang out in an Internet forum on Sunday afternoon, LOL.

      Thanks for the laugh, DDD.

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Founder of $cientology Inc. offers these results:

    “Arthritis vanishes, myopia gets better, heart illness decreases, asthma disappears, stomachs function properly and the whole catalogue of illnesses goes away and stays away.” L. Ron Hubbard, DIANETICS: THE MODERN SCIENCE OF MENTAL HEALTH, 1987 Ed., p. 72

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    She is postulating and probably doesn’t even know it…

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Somebody needs to let these guys know that connecting yourself to Scientology, even when it’s parody, is bad PR…

    • Jgg2012

      Actually, only one of the guys in that video was parodying–the rest are from an actual Scientology video. Hard to tell them apart.

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Founder of $cientology Inc., L. Ron Hubbard, offers these results:

    “Scientology is the only specific (cure) for radiation (atomic bomb) burns.” — L. Ron Hubbard, ALL ABOUT RADIATION, p. 109

    “Radiation is apparently enormously water-soluble as well as water removable. According to researchers, one merely has to take a hose to a building surface or a road to wash the radiation off of it. This factor is well known to defense trained personnel.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Clear Body, Clear Mind, page 47

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      OMFG. Fallout !=”radiation”.

    • Couch_Incident

      Well, he was a nuclear physicist (despite dropping out of GW).

    • Hubbub

      With all that knowledge of radiation within the religion, why don’t we start a kickstarter campaign to send all known Scions to finish cleaning up Fukishima? We’ll just hose them off when they are done, and they’ll be fine.

      • Anonymous Confused Person

        Or how about a Kickstarter campaign to do an advertisement for tonyortega.org to be run during the Super Bowl?

        • DamOTclese2

          Or better yet run an advertisement that looks like it was done by the Scientology crooks only tell the truth about Scientology — space cooties, radiation, Hawaii, all that nonsense crammed in to a 60 second truth spew.

          • Hubbub

            We could use one of Observer’s “Ron” magazine cover shoops, but I’m not sure how we’d pick among them!

      • DamOTclese2

        Make them wear red shirts first.

    • D.Y.G.

      The fuck?

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hey, hey, hey. This is from the guy who claimed that smoking cigarettes cures cancer.

        • D.Y.G.

          Somehow I missed this gem before today. I’m just dumbfounded.

          • Captain Howdy
            • Mooser

              Rinder, if my reading is correct, still inadvertantly gives Hubbard credit for certain accomplishments. I doubt he even knows he does it. I sometimes suspect, and may God forgive me for saying it, cause nobodoy else will, that he is not a very deep thinker. Man of action, sure, but doesn’t think too deep.

            • noname

              Mike Rinder has worked his way out of a hole, literally. He continues to make his way out of the cult and works to expose it every day. He has the ability to reach the sheeple – something most can not do. I truly appreciate the work he’s doing.

            • Captain Howdy

              Huh? Sorry, but i don’t see the connection between the link i gave DYG and your comment to me.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Captain, Oh Captain. ;-)

      • DamOTclese2

        No no! This is science here! Cutting edge science.

    • Science Doc

      I wish they would start pushing this again. I’m hatted really well on radiation and I’d like to rip them on this one.

      • Robert Eckert

        Radiation is a kind of weather that rains out of Magellanic clouds: “They used to drag Magellanic clouds out of the center hub of the galaxy, let them follow the lines of force, and just let them come over a system. Then when they got around to it, they’d send planes in with speakers, and so forth, and give the place the business. But the place very often was totally caved in for thousands of years by these Magellanic radioactive clouds which would just engulf the particular system.”

        • Science Doc

          Spewing crap about the human mind, especially in 1950, could look like an honest difference of opinion to a lay bystander. Basic physics not so much. Truly an ignorant man.

        • joan nieman

          One wonder’s how someone would even dare to say such things! I guess LRH thought he could convince anyone of anything. It can’t be called anything but insane.

          • Robert Eckert

            I think he really didn’t know enough to know how ignorant that was.

        • DamOTclese2

          I posted this to the Tampa Facebook page. :) That should get me blocked as soon as they can find someone left to censor their page.

      • DamOTclese2

        I’m pushng it on their Facebook Tampa page. :) Fuck them.

  • sugarplumfairy

    “The slower you go, the shorter you live. Not reversewise.”

    Some enlightened being thought that was worth quoting on a flyer.. It’s soooo frking hard not to feel superior.. I try to be humble.. but co$ makes it so dammmm difficult..

    • Straight Diet of Kerbango

      I prefer the reversewise. “The shorter you go, the slower you live.”

      • Anonymous Confused Person

        Oh dear. That doesn’t bode well for the See-Oh-Bee.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      I believe he may have meant “The slower you lie, the greater they give.”

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Founder of $cientology Inc., L. Ron Hubbard, offers this kind of advice to solve disease and poverty:

    “A Venezuelan dictator once decided to stop leprosy. He saw that most lepers in his country were also beggars. By the simple expedient of collecting and destroying all the beggars in Venezuela an end was put to leprosy in that country.” – L. Ron Hubbard, SCIENCE OF SURVIVAL, p. 171

    • Priscilla

      Yeah, Its always worse than you think – always.

    • ThetaBara

      Another terrific quote from Mankind’s Greatest “Friend.” You’re posting some classics.

      • MaxSpaceman

        Wanted to spread them, Theta B, in between some of 3D’s postings of the Tweeting going on re the $cilon ads! In case anyone might be swayed by the ads !

    • DamOTclese2

      Hubbard was a fucking Republican.

    • joan nieman

      Oh that is so sick!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    This could be a great game in the Bunker during slow periods…

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      I don’t think there are any slow periods in the Bunker. Unless Tony’s having trouble finding the way to finish a sentence. ; )

      • Mooser

        You noticed a dangling participle? I haven’t.

    • DamOTclese2

      ROFL! That’s an excellent tweet. :)

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Here’s just the reaction that the CoS was doubtless hoping for:

  • NOLAGirl

    Bahahaha!!! Just got a message on Twitter from a friend asking me “Can you give me a link to that website you were talking about…the one that tells the truth about Scientology??” I gave it to her. http://www.tonyortega.org :)

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Somewhere, Xenu is smiling…

    • Ruby

      priceless! :)

    • Robert Eckert

      Now that’s dissemination on whole new order of magnitude, just the way LRH intended.

    • ThetaBara

      Awesome! This shows why direct conversations with people you know is so effective. Your friends listen to you, so they’re more inclined to take what you have to say seriously than if they’d read it in a news story. Good work, NOLAGirl!

      • NOLAGirl

        Thank you Theta. A lot of people don’t understand it so they aren’t interested, but if I get an opening to inform someone just a little bit, I do. At the very least I want people to know that if someone they love is thinking of getting in, going to Narconon etc..that they’ve heard this is evil and will speak up about it.

    • Missionary Kid

      Co$ is so derided that the Streisand effect is in full force.

      • NOLAGirl

        What is the Streisand effect MK? :)

        • Robert Eckert

          Barbara Streisand did not like it that some pictures showing her Malibu home were posted on the web. Her legal threats to get them taken down sparked a wave of interest so that the pictures were viewed a million times, which would not have happened if she had not raised a fuss.

          • NOLAGirl

            Ahhh yes, I vaguely remember that. Thanks Robert. :)

            • Missionary Kid

              Thanks to Robert for answering. I was offline for several hours.

          • Missionary Kid

            Thanks Robert, I was away from my computer for a while and couldn’t answer.

  • MaxSpaceman

    Lafayette Ronald Hubbard, Founder of The Cult of $cientology Inc.
    .
    “Somebody some will say ‘this is illegal.’ By then be sure the orgs [Scientology organizations] say what is legal or not.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Policy Letter, 4 January 1966, “LRH Relationship to Orgs”

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Seriously, I am now going to see if there are any PRO Scientology Tweets. But first…

  • Party Hull!

    Is it just me who thinks that, in this day and age with the internet relentlessly kicking it all the time, that Scientology might do well to NOT bring attention to itself anymore?

    The more they disseminate, the more people do their own research and find the ‘unofficial’ version of events.

    The truth, that is, lol.

    • Science Doc

      The call to action in the ad is to get on the Internet. Not the smartest plan.

      • Hubbub

        Here’s what comes up when I Google. Aside from from their ads and home site, it’s not a pretty picture. I put a few highlights in yellow.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      All the more reason to believe that Miscavige has basically given up on actual recruitment/dissemination, and instead just does anything to keep the faithful donors in line.

      • Party Hull!

        Looks that way.

        The ‘brand’ is so toxic now, they can’t possibly hope to impress fresh faced, innocent new disciples. The internet is everyone’s first point of reference.

      • Jon Hendry

        And accelerate the extraction of money from the remaining faithful.

        • DamOTclese2

          “But Captain Miscavige, my rectum is already bleedin’ as fast as she can! she canna takea no more!”

    • Mooser

      I agree. And given the amount they need to extract from each adherent, and where they’ve had success recently, I think their best bet was an image as a ‘secret, exclusive’ cult that nobody can get into. You have to be invited, and there’s blindfolds, all that.
      Sticking their head over the parapet was not a good idea.

      But what is pretty apparent is that Miscavige thinks that anybody exposed to his dominating masterful personality (even on film!) is gonna come right across with the big bucks, or a dismissal.

      He is mad. Coo-koo!

    • Drat

      He has to advertise. Not to get new members, but to show existing members (yes, they do watch TV) that their money is being put to good use. Why do you think only a Scientologist would understand and love the commercial?

      • noname

        That’s it exactly. Scientologists eat it up. The rest of the world wonders WTF?

  • MaxSpaceman

    How $cientology sees the world societies working:
    .
    “Having viewed slum clearance projects in most major cities of the world may
    I state that you have conceived and created in the Johannesburg townships
    what is probably the most impressive and adequate resettlement activity in
    existence.”
    - L. Ron Hubbard in a letter to H.F. Verwoerd (widely considered to be the
    architect of South Africa’s apartheid system) dated November 7, 1960,
    reprinted in K.T.C. Kotzé, INQUIRY INTO THE EFFECTS AND PRACTICES OF
    SCIENTOLOGY, p. 59, Pretoria 1973

    • Missionary Kid

      I’ll bet he hated the civil rights movement here in the U.S. as well.

      • ThetaBara

        I’m sure he did. Not only was he hugely racist, but anything that actually helped people was working at cross purposes with his goal of total planetary enslavement. Besides that, who would be left to scrub the floors? (Ref. letter to his first wife Polly: “you shouldn’t be down on your hands and knees scrubbing the floors. Get yourself a n_____, that’s what they’re for.”)

        • Missionary Kid

          I’ll bet NOI hasn’t read that statement.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Seriously, the only positive tweets are coming from the official Church of Scientology feed. The rest is stuff like this:

    • NOLAGirl

      I think the money they spent on these commercials may bring more people to The Bunker than it will to the Orgs. :)

      • Ruby

        Either that or the commercial gave them all an opportunity to get up from the couch and go get another beer.

        • NOLAGirl

          Hehehehe!!

          Beer: Better for you than Scientology.

          • Ruby

            I’ll drink to that! :)

          • Missionary Kid

            NOLAGirl. That’s a keeper. Things said about $cientology. I’m modifying it to say, “Beer: Better for you than Scientology, and much cheaper, too.” I’ll change it back, if you want.

            BTW, did the clam commercial show up in NO?

            • NOLAGirl

              Feel free to put it on the list however you want. :)

              Nope, none of them have aired down here.

            • Missionary Kid

              DM is cheap. I’ll bet there’s no real whales there in N.O. Sincethe commercials are really for the whales and the clams, he won’t spend any money advertising there. How big is the org/mission there, if any?

            • NOLAGirl

              It’s a tiny office space in a “not so nice” part of the city. An area with very little foot traffic (compared to what you see in the French Quarter, Warehouse District etc.) It’s definitely more morgue than org down here. Unfortunately we do have a Narconon rehab outside of Baton Rouge though. I hate that. :( I’ve tried to inform our local investigative reporters about it, but haven’t seen anything said about it. I’m hoping it will get shut down eventually.

          • Missionary Kid
            • NOLAGirl

              Thanks MK. I love your lists, they are a major chuckle-fest. :)

            • Missionary Kid

              Humor is possibly the only way to handle tragedy and evil. I just hope they piss off DM and rattle him.

            • NOLAGirl

              I hope so too. ; )

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Guys are going to see cans and automatically jump up to grab one kind or another. Neither on of them are scientology soup.

    • Robert Eckert

      There’s one “public” trying to spread a bit of theta, the same tweet a few times now:

      pinery Klaich ‏@pinerywtKlaichw36m
      its had media exposure because certain luminaries do Scientology, but millions of people do it who are not celebritie

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I wasn’t sure about this one, because it is so incoherent. But that would tend to make one believe it was pro, now wouldn’t it?

        • Mooser

          No one ever said Scientologists were celibate.

          • Missionary Kid

            They’re not celebrite, either.

        • Robert Eckert

          They’re trying to spread the word that there are millions of Scientologists still. So far about six Scientologists have retweeted this.

      • Robert Eckert

        I was only able to find one pro-Scientology tweet out of the hundreds since the ad ran, aside from the official CoS twitter-accounts and that one garbled re-tweet circulating, and this one is from Sweden:

        Vad driver @kjellhaglund i hans hårda arbete mot @Scientology? Är det månne utbetalningarna från läkemedelsbolagen? Google-translates to What drives @ kjell haglund of his hard work with @ Scientology? Is it perhaps the payments from drug companies?

  • MaxSpaceman

    The Founder of $cientology Inc., L. Ron Hubbard, on any competitive services from the psychiatric profession:

    “A psychiatrist today has the power to (1) take a fancy to a woman (2) lead her to take wild treatment as a joke (3) drug and shock her to temporary insanity (4) incarnate [sic] her (5) use her sexually (6) sterilise her to prevent conception (7) kill her by a brain operation to prevent disclosure. And all with no fear of reprisal. Yet it is rape and murder. We want at least one bad mark on every psychiatrist in England, a murder, an assault, or a rape or more than one. This is Project Psychiatry. We will remove them.” – L. Ron Hubbard, Sec ED, Office of LRH, Confidential, 22 February 1966, “Project Psychiatry”

  • FOTF2012

    I love the graphic of the “first ideal continent.” Do they understand what a continent is? The graphic shows the USA — not a continent. Even worse, the graphic cuts off the eastern part of the USA. It’s not even the whole country.

    • Anonymous Confused Person

      The eastern part of the US is another continent, known as “EastUS”, as opposed to what’s on the flier, which is the continent known as “WestUS”. (In Eastus, they practice Festivus, or so I hear.)

      • N. Graham

        Based on Brave New World?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Clearly, it is YOU who does not understand what constitutes a Continent. LRH knows.

      http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/corporate/stop-wise.biz/grp/Scn_continents_CCoS.gif

      • Modesto

        My memory may be failing me but isn’t the UK bundled together as a continent with India and Pakistan? I remember thinking that Laughayette mustn’t have read the newspapers much in the late 40′s …

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Hadn’t heard that one.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Sometimes whole countries disappeared and cities slid into oblivion at the mere wave of his finger such was the power of the Ron theta hand.

        http://i.imgur.com/308h0TP.jpg

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I see he got rid of that pesky Atlantic Ocean, as well.

          • Ruby

            heehee..

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Turned the ocean into the River of DeNial he did. That SP country, France, gets pretty smooshed. Is that girl lol’ing? uh oh

            http://i.imgur.com/en3o6Zk.jpg

            • Cat Daddy

              One of his daughters I think because of the hat

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              no, just sea ogre. Don’t know who.

            • Cat Daddy

              LRH -Pull my finger

              Girl -nu uh

          • Observer

            It looks like he was using a map of Pangea.

        • Observer

          And into the shoop resource library it goes!

        • joan nieman

          Ha ha ha! He was pretty powerful that dude! Not!

    • DamOTclese2

      These are continents which existed *before* the fusion bombs.

  • MaxSpaceman

    If any of the world’s population decides to criticize their “religion,” this is what $cientologists believe the critic is all about:

    “Now, get this as a technical fact, not a hopeful idea. Every time we have investigated the background of a critic of Scientology, we have found crimes for which that person or group could be imprisoned under existing law. We do not find critics of Scientology who do not have criminal pasts.” — L. Ron Hubbard, Hubbard Communications Office Bulletin, 5 November 1967, “Critics of Scientology”

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      It’s too bad no one asked ol’ LRH, “Dox?”

      • Observer

        He didn’t need no steenking dox!

        • Missionary Kid

          The only dox were in his imagination, or in his ass, where he pulled his ideas out of.

  • RMycroft

    Yo Portland!

    http://www.examiner.com/article/journalist-lawrence-wright-to-speak-about-scientology-expose-portland

    The Church of Scientology has attracted many a famous man and woman including Tom Cruise, Kirstie Alley and Charles Manson to name a few. On January 14th, 2014 at 7:30 PM, journalist Lawrence Wright will grace Arlene Schnitzer Concert Hall located at 1037 Southwest Broadway Portland, OR 97205 to discuss his book Going Clear: Scientology, Hollywood and the Prison of Belief as part of the Portland Arts and Lecture Series.

    • Michael Leonard Tilse

      I’d love to go to that!

    • Kitz

      Very cool!

  • SS

    Wow, a young Miscavige holding an iron to a girl’s face. This dude has been living a psychopath’s dream inside the “church” for 30+ years now. No one goes to law enforcement, no repercussions. It’s basically akin to a pedophile being stranded on a desert island with a bunch of children.

    When Miscavige joined the “church”, he was able to jettison for good the silly facade of decency that I’m sure he’d had to employ from time to time in normal society up to that point. He was able to fully embrace his true nature, and be rewarded for it.

    • MaxSpaceman

      40 years, since he was 12.

    • Hubbub

      Like mentor, like mentee. The words of LRH Junior about his father:

      “…he beat up a lot of women very badly. Blood, black eyes, busted teeth, the whole thing. He beat the holy hell out of women. His rages were incredible. I’ve read reports of the kinds of rages Hitler used to have, and they sound just like my father’s. He was especially touchy about food.

      He would always have somebody else at the table sample everything on the table before he’d eat it. I’ve seen him pick up an entire dinner table and throw it against the wall if he didn’t like the food or thought it was suspicious. He got very strange in the fifties. He had to have his clothes washed and washed and washed. He would take showers half a dozen times a day. I have often wondered if all of this might have been caused by the massive amounts of drugs and medication he took.”

    • Mooser

      Wasn’t Miscavige born into (what was then) a Scientology family?

      • MaxSpaceman

        daddy got the whole family involved

        • Mooser

          “Father, dear father, come home with me now,

          The clock in the steeple strikes one;

          You said you were coming right home from the shop

          As soon as your day’s work was done;

          Our fire has gone out, our house is all dark,

          And mother’s been watching since tea,

          With poor brother Benny so sick in her arms

          And no one to help her but me,

          Come home! come home! come home!

          Please father, dear father, come home.”

      • SS

        I’m pretty sure he was a teenager, Mooser. Yea, his dad was hoodwinked first, then Dave got some auditing and claimed it cured his asthma.

      • Scream Nevermore

        Some say born – I prefer ‘spawned’.

        • Observer

          I like to think he was found in a compost heap.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        No, Not……! But his dad did experiment with Sciloontology and hoped it could “fix” Davey.
        Worked out great?…No?

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Psychopaths, left to their own devices unrestrained become downright dialectic, and everyone around them just another looney mutt.

      http://youtu.be/h5JXrP8yv8o

    • Observer

      Not only are there no consequences, his followers pay him vast sums of money, bestow on him prolonged standing ovations, and the impoverished Sea Org pool their pennies and buy him ridiculously extravagant gifts.

      • SS

        Yup, he is God in his bubble – never having to come into contact with a soul who doesn’t kiss his ass out of fear. You’d have to think prison would be especially jarring to a guy who’s lived the way he has for so long…… I pray.

  • Great White Clam

    Dang. This sounds like a shootout at the NOT-OK corral!

    “And there was quite a bit of ‘huffle ruffle’ and then upset and so on before R6 took place. What it was
    was the Loyal Officers were the body, the elective body, and they called them the Loyal Officers. They were there to protect the populations and so forth. And they had elected a fellow by the name of Xenu, could be spelled X-E-M-U, to the supreme ‘rulah’. And they were about to unelect him. And he took the last moments he had in office to really ‘goof the floof’.… He took these last moments to really upset it. He, of course, had several key birds who were close to him. He was a Suppressive, they involved Suppressives, he got these administrators and so on and heads of planets in various positions and places. He picked out all the cowboys in the white hat and he got rid of them first.”

    from L. Ron Hubbard’s lecture entitled “Assists” given October 3, 1968 to students on the Class 8 Course aboard the “Apollo”

    • MaxSpaceman

      By then (1968), Hubbard had dropped acid with Stephen Boyd (actor Ben Hur) on the Apollo and was going bonkers. Just around the time he went through the Wall of Fire and made up OT 3.

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Sounds like 1930s style pulp science fiction.

      • Missionary Kid

        Only worse.

        • Observer

          Amen!

    • ThetaBara

      That’s just exactly how Davey grabbed control! He picked out all of the cowboys in the white hats and he got rid of them first.

      • Missionary Kid

        IMO, there are NO white hats in clamland, but relative to him, there would be grey hats.

  • N. Graham
    • Missionary Kid

      Snickersnort.

  • Hubbub

    An analysis of some of COS’s online advertising costs.

    http://www.vice.com/read/how-much-does-the-church-of-scientology-spend-on-advertising

    • 3feetback-of-COS

      Does that mean that if I click on their link, say 100 times, it would cost them $690?

      • Snippy_X

        Proxy up?

    • Snippy_X

      This is a great article. I love the way the guy figured it out. This is funny:

      According to Google, here’s how much is being paid to advertise, per click, on keywords relating to Scientology:

      “Scientology Religion” $6.91

      “Scientology” $6.18

      “What Is Scientology” $5.46

      “Dianetics” $6.50

      Which is a pretty huge amount compared with other religions. Baptist
      keywords cost $2.77, Catholic ones are $0.92, and Jewish ones are all
      the way down at $0.55.

  • Mooser

    Oh, look, a red-headed child. Just what are they trying to say there?

    • Sydjazz

      Lrh is back lol

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I’ll believe it when she turns up wearing an ascot.

        • Mooser

          They aren’t implying, shall we say, ‘improvements’ in certain kinds of children with troubling disabilities?

          • Mooser

            And there is my answer. It’s always worse than you think with Sci.

    • Great White Clam

      Those pink legs?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Ouch!

  • Cat Daddy
    • Bury_The_Nuts

      that is Hilarious!!!

      • Cat Daddy

        Downvoting here too ?

        • MaxSpaceman

          Yes, Cat D – from now on as there are $cilons and OSA’bots and Staff $ciloons aplenty here, and are down voting lots. It’s gonna be that way onward.

          • Cat Daddy

            Everybody upvote Emma dominating Miscavige than

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yah, whateves!

  • Great White Clam

    Who is Dart Smohen?

    In late 1967 or early 1968 LRH wrote a secret EO on Xenu (or Xemu, as you wish).
    In it Hubbard refers to the events he described at the time. He states that at the time he was operating a doll-body and his identity was DART SMOHEN.

  • Jo

    More exciting events in Scientology London FB, only 2 attended? They must of been wearing a blindfold when they made this map?

    • Drat

      Perhaps they should issue “Where Is Scientology?” as a companion to “What Is Scientology?”

      • Missionary Kid

        It’s just a parody of “Where’s Waldo?” because there’s so few $cions.

    • MaxSpaceman

      Fantastic, JoJo – love this kind of post !!
      Rocketing straight up and vertical in the UK is $cientology Inc. !!! lulzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz

      • Jo

        The map doesn’t make any sense spaceman. Those dots are random.

        • Yan117

          Yeah, I’d like to see what the org in the middle of Northwest Territories look like…

    • Imelda Marcos

      The huge mass of dots that cover Germany, lol. Maybe they made this up just to bug the German government.

    • InterestedinCrazy

      So that’s the reg and the OSA officer, right? :)

  • Great White Clam

    Does this sound familiar? (incident 1)

    “Outside the dockyard there was a church. On Feast Days (there were many) an evening service took place. It was dark and there was always a small crowd. First there was a candle lit procession, followed by a loud bang, then a series of flashing lights, another procession came out from the church, led by men carrying poles on which figures of cherubs were mounted.

    Following this came a replica of the ark of the covenant, with a winged chariot on it. The procession traversed
    around the forecourt. All the time prayers were being said, led by a priest in long robes. Then firecrackers went off and the candles were extinguished, leaving the place in darkness as the processions re-entered the church.”

    http://paulsrabbit.com/DartSmohenRealStory_20081216.pdf

    • Mooser

      “…leaving the place in darkness as the processions re-entered the church.”

      Soon, from the church, came the sound of the organ prelude. Then, the vicar stepped to the pulpit, and intoned the mysterious invocation which begins the service: “We skipped the light fundango, turned cartwheels cross the floor…”

      • Mooser

        Learning the organ part to that song was on my bucket list, you see.

        • joan nieman

          Ha ha! I bet it still is on your bucket list Mooser!

    • Gerard Plourde

      I’m trying to figure out what they could have been witnessing. While processions in Spanish and Portuguese Catholicism are not unusual, I have difficulty believing that one of the objects carried in procession would have been a replica of the Ark of the Covenant. It’s just not something that Catholics would consider worthy of that sort of commemoration. Statues of the Virgin and of saints and of Jesus would be the norm. It’s possible that they may have seen a Corpus Christi procession with the priest holding a receptacle for a consecrated host, but even that wouldn’t look like a replica of the Ark of the Covenant.

      • VickiStubing

        You’re assuming he knows what the Ark of the Covenant looks like. No “Raiders of the Lost Ark” at that point, for those unfamiliar with the Bible.

        • Gerard Plourde

          That’s true and I probably shouldn’t assume that a Protestant Sunday School would have pictures of the Ark, either even with their greater focus on Bible study. I tried to search festivals in Las Palmas and came up with one for Our Lady of the Light (translated as Our Lady of the Candles) which started off with fireworks.

  • richelieu jr

    The three ladies at St Hill all look like something is tickling their noses!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      lol…at the very minimum.

      • Mooser

        My mother told me never to vote myself, down there!

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Check your palms for hair and STFU!

          • Mooser

            I’m afraid to look.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Come on…………….be brave!

      • joan nieman

        Love the fight in you Bury. Awesome!

  • Bea

    Take the Super Powers Rundown and learn how to balance very large frames on your right foot whilst perched on a bar stool!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I can do that…….but must concentrate!

  • stillgrace2

    I am intrigued by the scio ad for employment within OSA. Looks like they are looking to gear up. But at what? More Dead Agent Packs? More surveillance of anti-scientologists? More infiltration of anti-scientology internet sites?

    Jeeze, Louise! {Just what we need!}

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      YaH!

    • Bea

      Was thinking the same thing.

    • Science Doc

      Bait and switch. Join the Navy and be in the seal team, or swab decks. Join the sea org and be in the OSA, or swab decks.

    • Ardent

      That one bothered me too. I also found the image quietly disturbing. Or, is it possible that OSA has had members blow at “incredible, hard to believe rates, never seen by man before”?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Hmmm, interesting theory………….expound, Ardent?

        • Observer

          That was actually my first thought when I saw the flyer too. If it’s true, my guess would be that their exposure to truth on the internet had a neutralizing effect on the conditioning.

        • Ardent

          Well, looking at the videos above, and considering all the bad press that must be getting back, especially through OSA channels, I might think some of the more self-serving or even intelligent of them would plan to jump ship, and do so before the law comes crashing in – which seems increasingly likely. Just a thought, though, Bury.

      • Drat

        Or wishful thinking. The ads might just be put out to make people think “Hey, they need more staff, Scientology is expanding!”

    • grundoon

      As staff get RPFed or thrown in the Hole, replacements have to be procured.

  • Graham

    Just re-discovered Tiziano Lugli’s youtube video on the Shrinking Cult of Scientology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0UFZVHfel4

    It really highlights the uniqueness of the genius that is Slappy Miscavige. Here’s a list of people who have been in $cientology for twenty years, thirty years, thirty five years or even BORN into it. What level of total bungling incompetence does it take to drive out people who have been successfully indoctrinated into cult thinking and have stuck with it for decades, devoted their lives to it? A captive audience, nay a captured audience. All it needs is a bit of “steady as she goes” to keep the ship on course and the money rolling in. But such is his greed, his blind incompetence, arrogance and narcissistic sadism that he’s created a mass exodus of the faithful that no opponent could hope to achieve. Congratulations Cap’n Slappy.

    I know I’m saying nothing new, but seeing person after person telling how much of their lives they devoted to the Church they’ve now turned their backs on really brought it home to me.

    • Drat

      It isn’t just him. It’s the inhumane culture.

    • Imelda Marcos

      Who’s the older man in his kitchen, talking about mortgaging his home? He looks very familiar, and his name is on the tip of my tongue.

      • Robert Eckert

        Michael Fairman, various character roles

        http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0265637/

        • Imelda Marcos

          Oh, god, Dutch Kincaid on a great episode of Cheers. He was great in that, razzing on Sam.

  • Great White Clam

    Refresh for even more theta!

  • EnthralledObserver

    I think it is so disingenuous that LRonny’s signature is on those SuperPower certificates… how could he possibly have signed them… you know… given the fact that he is DEAD and all?!

    • Observer

      He skipped forward on his time track, silly!

      • Cat Daddy

        Downvoting ? You hit a nerve

        • EnthralledObserver

          I have a hater… something I said at some point apparently.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            We all have haters. Badge of HONOR!

            • EnthralledObserver

              Indeed… so I wear mine daily. LOL!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              It is like a “Shiny” Tiara!!!

            • EnthralledObserver

              Correction – 2 haters! lulz

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              lulz

            • EnthralledObserver

              Wait… three!

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I may have to buy you a pint of something deadly???;-))

            • EnthralledObserver

              Whenever I’m in your neck of the woods for sure. I don’t recommend posting anything like that to me. ;)
              Ok… that’s enough feeding of the trolls. :) lulz

            • Robert Eckert

              There were 4 downboys out at once earlier. Maybe you’ll pick up the straggler eventually.

            • EnthralledObserver

              Yep… got him. :)

            • Captain Howdy

              I was reading an older discussion further on down the line about d-voting and i really don’t understand why people even remotely care that they get downvoted.

              It’s really starting to BUG ME that people keep going on about it at length because it’s really so inconsequential.

              As far as who’s doing it it’s obviously either OSA or one of the rouge bunkerites (MKS, Flunk, KJP etc) or in case no one’s noticed certain people don’t like certain people around here or it’s all of the above

              I’ll end the rant with WHO THE FUCK CARES and WHY?

              sorry to rant

            • Sherbet

              I’ve got to laugh at your rant, Howdy. I completely agree with you. When I got my first couple of downvotes, it annoyed me and bothered me that I might have said something amiss, but now I couldn’t care less. The only reason I notice at all is just as an awareness that the Downvoter is in the house. Other than that, not everyone has to agree with me.

            • Captain Howdy

              Ha, ha “rogue” not “rouge”

            • Kitz

              I was thinking you were talking about sunburned ones. ;-)

            • Sandy

              Thanks for saying that, Howdy. It really does not matter.

              Carry on as before. What the Fluck is wrong with us?

            • Sherbet

              BTW, Howdy, since when are you “sorry to rant”? If you didn’t rant, I’d think you weren’t feeling very well. You’re the original Captain Tell-it-like-it-is, and I, for one, am appreciative of your honesty.

            • Captain Howdy

              Well, obviously I’m guilty of playing the spy game in the past but to me that’s what it is/was, a game that I was good at, but when other people start taking this shit way too seriously and get emotionally twisted up about it, it’s no longer a game and it’s time to quit.

              OK I gotta go relax and watch some gun vids on youtube. Goodnite

            • stillgrace2

              I’m with you on this one, Captain!

            • DamOTclese2

              Down voting gives me a sad. :( It caves me in. :(

            • noname

              Funny :)

            • Sandy

              Mr Howdy. What a voice of reason. Thank you for that post. Cold slap in the face to me – and I hope others …

            • Jo

              I always think of Andy Williams, sunshine, lollipops. http://youtu.be/N6VKjo1ilc0

            • Captain Howdy

              I’m actually a Andy Williams fan. Iggy & Andy .

            • Jimmy Threetimes

              I wish I could up vote AND down vote this post. Wouldn’t that be nuts?

            • Scream Nevermore

              We don’t care, but it can be amusing to laugh about being downvoted, because they probably think they’re unleashing a world of butthurt on us whenever they downvote, and we’re all laughing and J&D about it. That’s why we do it!

          • Anonymous

            They never down vote me for some reason… :-(

            • EnthralledObserver

              You aren’t trying hard enough… continue… you’ll get there! :)

            • Mooser

              “They never down vote me for some reason…”

              One of the advantages of remaining anonymous, of course. They don’t know who you are, so how can they down-vote you?

            • Anonymous

              True enough. I intentionally don’t have an “identity.” Still, I would expect at least a few of my posts to get on OSA nerves. Unless of course, the OSA people agree with me and give me upvotes instead.

            • MO Mom

              I don’t think they are allowed to up vote anything here, on general principle. Plus someone probably checks their account…

            • Mooser

              Oh BTW, Anon, there’s an entire chapter of your stuff in Bartlett’s, and it’s very good! The kind of common-sense yet pithy things people remember. Good work!

            • Anonymous

              Bartlett’s?

            • Mooser

              That’s right, good old Bartlett’s Familiar!

            • Anonymous

              LOL

            • Mooser

              You should be proud, they’re certainly not interested in anything I’ve got to say. But they snap your stuff up wholesale.

            • Anonymous

              I get the impression that you’re fairly new and dealing with some shit here. That will pass in time.

            • Annee

              If it’s downvotes you want, I have a name and avatar for you.

          • Sarah James

            If it is OSA they just don’t want a beating. They want to stay in scion so they can be held accountable in a court of wog law. :-) oh so looking forward to that day.
            Down vote this all you want. David Miscavige could not do the harm he does without you, the dirty SS- OSA of the fake “fake religion.”

        • Observer

          Must have been a fat-finger. It’s gone now.

          • EnthralledObserver

            I didn’t look properly, I thought he was talking to me when CD said that. My bad, I think I started something. ;)

            • Observer

              I am so tempted to down arrow you right now … ;-)

    • Anonymous

      Davey probably has a stack of blank sheets signed and undated from “Hubbard.”

    • Sarah James

      What? L ron is dead?

      • EnthralledObserver

        Dead or circling the universe endlessly… or, the third option – he’s Suri… devoted members are just waiting for TC to finally take Katie down so he can indoctrinate the child and awaken the LRonny thetan.

        • Ardent

          I thought he carelessly ‘dropped his body’ somewhere in California?

        • Anonymous

          Well, L Ron Hubbard’s thetan must have got Katie pregnant. Theres no other way Katie could have gotten pregnant…

          • Mooser

            Does L Ron say anything, anywhere, ever, about succession in Scientology?
            Anything about a process to change leadership? Or replace an ailing leader, or even one who has significant personal disabilities?
            So how did it work when Miscavige took over? Did he crown himself, like King whosismawhatsis when he had a beef with the Pope?

            • Anonymous

              LRH never left any sort of instructions re: succession except naming the Broekers his ‘loyal officers.’ Miscavige’s takeover was complicated, but he definitely wasn’t intended to succeed Hubbard. Pat Broeker lied about having higher OT levels, and Miscavige figured out that he was lying. He used that to discredit Broeker then took the crown for himself. I dont remember all the details, but he also somehow gained control of all the trademarks and copyrights of Scientology, which put him in charge by default.

            • Mooser

              Thanks for that summation. So, sorta like the old Chinese Dynasties, a bloody succession fight starts as soon as the Emperor is ailing.

      • Artoo45

        He’s in a seedy room in the Bulgravia Arms Hotel on Target 2, typing endlessly and chain smoking Kools. Mary Baker Eddy keeps him company from time to time . . .

    • DamOTclese2

      There were literally hundreds of Scientology cvustomers at one time who were programmed to believe they were Elerache reincarnated.

  • Jenstnick

    All hail Xenu! Elizabeth Moss just won a Golden Globe

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      And the Twitterverse responds!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Did I hear her thank family as in mother and brother and leave out dad (Ron Moss)?

      • Robert Eckert

        Does that mean she’s blowing?

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          or dad, tho more likely you got it right

      • Jenstnick

        I figured it was a good time to get another beer so I didn’t have to hear her speak.

    • Sandy

      Jeez – I got it on, and I completely missed E Moss. Dammit…

      Must of been in the kitchen doing vodka tech ..

    • DamOTclese2

      She did not mention Scientology or David, I’m going to file a KR on her treasonous ass.

  • Sarah James

    Just caught Elizabeth Moss’s speach ( she won a golden globe) she thanked her brother and mother no mention of her dad. He’s in?

    • mook

      I heard a rumor that she was one of the celebs who called Leah Remini about how to leave the cult

      • SandiCorrena

        Oh I hope

        • Sarah James

          Yes, yes, yes!

          • SS

            Hope you’re right. Besides the obvious spiritual, mental, and financial benefits – any celebrity that leaves the cult right now will get enormous amounts of goodwill from the public. I went from having zero respect for Katie Holmes to damn near viewing her as a hero when she orchestrated her brilliant escape from Maverick.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        if true, then maybe she is bringing ma and bro with. Rons been in forever.

        • pronoia

          Was she raised scientology?

          • noname

            Yes she was.

        • Miss Tia

          Wait, isn’t her manager a $ci? Did i read that above or over on dlisted? I hope she gets out, I hope all of ‘em get out—EXCEPT Tom Cruise….and Kelly Preston…..

          • Sarah James

            Is it wrong to ask scientology to keep Tom Cruise? He should stay, he belongs, he really, really belongs.
            I believe Kelly will stay because of her first born. Scion gave her permission to abandon him. “Degraded being.” If he had been more like Jett then she could have ignored his illness.
            “Scientology:To be perfectly clear, It does not solve the underlying problems; it merely cures the complaints by ending the person’s freedom to complain.”

            • Missionary Kid

              Where did you get the quote from, “Scientology:To be perfectly clear, It does not solve the underlying
              problems; it merely cures the complaints by ending the person’s freedom
              to complain.” ???? I want to put it on a list, but only after I know where it came from.

            • Sarah James

              Try http://academic.research.micro
              If not I will try to search but I know it is no longer in my history.

            • Miss Tia

              Yeah the whole abandoning first son and then having him erased from history, she’s one evil cold hearted bitch. And when her first husband, who has custody, was thinking of LEAVING $cientology, oh looky, Kelly Preston & John Travolta are taking an extended stay in HAWAII where he lives!!

  • mook

    Elisabeth Moss just won Golden Globe and she thanked her mom and brother (but not her dad, hmmm) and her longtime manager Gay Ribisi who is also a longtime CoS member but who isn’t at the GGs. I just found it weird that she didn’t thank her dad Ronn who got her into the biz. Also I noticed that Juliette Lewis is MIA.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      me too. did he morph into SP?

    • SandiCorrena

      What must it be like to be a child of a Scientology family and know that true unconditional love just doesn’t really exist for you; so sad!

      • Annee

        It doesn’t just happen in Sci families. I can vouch for a Catholic family. It is what it is.

      • Miss Tia

        Well as an abused kid, who was never a $cieno, I can vouch that unconditional love doesn’t exist in A LOT of families. But I know what you mean. A religion, a religion that promotes itself as for families, actually turns everyone into basically robots. FEELINGS are programmed out and compassion and empathy are viewed as weak. Caring is also looked down upon. Those in your family are no longer your FAMILY, they are individuals you must spy on, keep tabs on and never ever discuss YOUR personal progress within the church with. I mean, what kind of disconnect is that?? Prior to having to REALLY disconnect from family and friends, you already sort of ARE!

        It would like if a Christian family was told they couldn’t discuss the Bible with each other and they had to write reports on the ‘sins’ everyone else did during the week. It’s ridiculous. For those that survived through that and came out and are living their lives, I have much respect and empathy for them.

        • SandiCorrena

          It breaks my heart, I know a lot of people don’t have that and it’s such a tragedy in any circumstance – for a {church} to flat out eliminate it as part of their doctrine is so wretched. I’m so sorry you didn’t get to have that growing up, I think you make up for it a little bit here though if that’s any comfort. I <3 you!

          • Miss Tia

            Aw, love to you too Sandi! One of my favorite quotes is ‘it’s never too late to have a happy childhood’ (my other favorite is: ‘question authority’ :) …I try to help people out, empathize, and definitely look out and speak up for chirruns, elderly, animals, any one who is oppressed and no one is speaking out for them, cuz no one spoke out for me. Sometimes just one voice CAN start to make a difference. I have made wonderful friends who have become my family and that’s something I impart to people who have horrible families too–you CAN choice your family, blood does NOT tie you to people for life. I might be a space cadet (might? I am) but I believe things happen for a reason, good or bad, and I can help others based on what’s happened to me and hopefully make some small positive differences.

            But for a RELIGION to divide and conquer families? Pretty sums up what is wrong with $cientology right there!

  • Sarah James

    I really like her but stopped watching mad men because she is in. I do hope she is out.

    • pronoia

      I am really grateful that I didn’t know that she was a scilon before I saw the Top of the Lake as I am a massive Jane Campion fan. She was actually really good in it and I remember finding our that she was in scientology after that and was like wtf? Never got on the Mad Men bandwagon, so she was really never on my radar before.

      • Sarah James

        I only saw one Top of the lake. I read (here?) that she was in – so ended my watching. I hope for her sake she is out.

        • pronoia

          it really was good — it just got better and better. Ironically, Holly Hunt plays a kind of cult goddess (her followers treat her like a guru but she doesn’t play it very well — it really is a fascinating portrait) who ditches her followers at the end. In the end, Moss’s character is rescued by her and then is dumped. I am wondering casting Moss as she did and scripting it that way was Campion’s way of trying to rescue a talented woman who could have a very promising career ahead of her.

          • Sarah James

            That would be so sweet if that was how it unfolded.

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Yeah, people are really impressed with Scientology…

    • DamOTclese2

      So much so that their surviving customers are told to shut the hell up about it. :)

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    cranston finally gets a freakin break and thats good!

  • Douglas D. Douglas

    Another Tweet…

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Already, best and shortest accept speech: “Yeah, biotch!” for breaking bad

  • Robert Eckert

    Anybody see the Apple/Scientology mashup?

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kk_uYByL6RY&feature=youtu.be

    • Jon Hendry

      Incidentally, I’m so glad Steve Jobs didn’t get sucked into the cult when he was young.

      • Artoo45

        But sadly, magical thinking killed him anyway.

        • Jon Hendry

          True.

        • John Stalvern

          I know that this isn’t the most appropriate way to contact you, but Vimeo wouldn’t let me send you a message, and Disqus doesn’t even have messaging, and I haven’t been able to find you anywhere else. Would you happen to have “Wassa Madda wit You, Hat?” in 320kbps MP3 or better quality, and would you mind sending me a copy? I can’t find the thing ANYWHERE except as that one YouTube video.
          Sorry to all for intruding on the comments here. :(

          • Artoo45

            No problem. I only did the music for that one, not the video. I’d be happy to send you an MP3 from my office tomorrow.

            • John Stalvern

              Thank you so much! My email address is shoot_em_upper[at]yahoo[dot]com.

    • Sarah James

      Clever, the difference being apple can deliver but scientology never does. :-)

      • Miss Tia

        I suppose I could toss in that both uses slave labor? o_O Yeah, I’m sure that deserves down votes. But I’ve read and watched too much about the Apple manufacturing plants basically using Chinese slave laborers. Yes, I know many other companies use slave laborers too around the world. It’s a horrible practice and it really needs to STOP! :(

        • Imelda Marcos

          I would never downvote that, I agree with you. ;)

          • Miss Tia

            Thanks

        • Sarah James

          Did not know they used slave labor.
          Found out goodwill pays educated blind worker 35¢ an hour so she had to quit. Cost her more to get to & from work than what her pay covered. Can’t remember if the CEO was making 500k or a million a year.

          • Miss Tia

            Yeah, check out FoxConn they’re the ‘supplier’ and there was so many suicides there they put suicide nets—nice of ‘em eh?

            That Goodwill shit PISSES ME OFF!! They LEGALLY can pay handicapped people LESS, far less, than minimum wage! It’s atrocious and more people need to know about that. They CAN afford to pay minimum wage! Those people work really hard too!

            Grrrr……

  • Sidney18511

    Off topic….good website to check to see IF and WHY a website if down….this link is showing the latest on the exscn.

    http://www.isitdownrightnow.com/forum.exscn.net.html

    • Miss Tia

      That’s a great site! I use that to see if livejournal is under a DDoS attack or not. For the exscn though, you need to search just exscn.net with the forum.exscn.net it doesn’t register on their site….

  • Great White Clam

    ESMB site now says:

    ESMB is having some surgery and will return

    to kicking the “church” of scientology’s butt

    much sooner than DM would like.

    Thanks, everyone, for the flowers and get well soon cards.

  • EnthralledObserver

    Following on with the LRonny signature topic… who is authorised to use that? Who has control over where LRonny’s signature goes? Is it copywrited?

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      You bet it’s copyrighted. One of the many alphabetic Scientology entities that is really, truly not-at-all controlled by David “Da Pope” Miscavige decides how it will be used.

      • Miss Tia

        Where do you think Da Pope is now? Still in Florida or he slithered back to Gold Base to hide behind the razor wire and weapons? We know he would never EVER be conducting business in Texas, so that’s out. :)

        • Anonymous

          Of course he’s not in TX! He’s currently micromanaging his legal minions in TX from CA over the phone!

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          I would assume he has crawled into the nearest bottle of scotch.

  • Victoria Pandora

    speaking of golden globes… robert downey jr. rocks. and there is a huge difference between iron man and a psycho with an iron in his hand.

    • EnthralledObserver

      Nice on-topic tie in!

    • Jo

      I never liked the Iron Man movie. Too much action, I do like Robert Downey Jr.

  • media_lush
  • Douglas D. Douglas

    And Mia Farrow tweets as Diane Keaton’s begins a heartfelt tribute to Cecil B. deMille Award winner Woody Allen at the Golden Globes…

    • Seannie5

      Am I the only one who thinks 90% of Woody Allen films are shit?

      • DamOTclese2

        I never liked anything he did, “Take the Money and Run” was stupid, the worse and yet people actually like it. I guess you have to have the right frame of mind. :)

      • http://www.kongbomb.com/ Kong

        Nope! I can’t speak for his entire body of work, but based on the three or films of Allen’s that I did see, I would say he is one of the most overrated filmmakers of all time.

      • Scream Nevermore

        I’ve only liked 1 of his films, The Purple Rose of Cairo, and that’s more because of the actors in it than any input of Mr Allen’s. I was always left feeling that I was odd for not liking his work – which I generally find tedious, pretentious and boring – glad to find out I am not alone!

      • Candygram

        for the most part, i agree.

    • media_lush

      ouch…..

      • Seannie5

        @RonanFarrow 53m

        Missed the Woody Allen tribute – did they put the part where a woman publicly confirmed he molested her at age 7 before or after Annie Hall?
        How is that for “OUCH”?

        • media_lush

          I think you might not have refreshed before you posted your comment……

          • Seannie5

            I didn’t because I didn’t realise there was anything there. I thought you were just replying to Douglas’ comment with “ouch”. It’s probably best to tell people that there is a picture there…

            • Candygram

              ah yes, the mobile view just has image placeholders… which certainly has saved a lot of crashing… but can be a little confusing between people posting in one view and others reading in another :)

    • ShoopZ

      Mia is no saint. Ask Dory Previn. Oh wait, you can’t. She’s dead.

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        I think all those sensitive artists are wonderful and saintly and should just be left alone to do whatever they want. Who are we to hold them to our plebeian sense of right and wrong?

  • Seannie5

    @Joan_Rivers 6h

    You know which film has a good chance of winning tonight? That movie about Katie Holmes’s marriage to Tom Cruise: 12 Years a Slave.

    • DamOTclese2

      ROFL!!!

    • MaxSpaceman

      Very good, Seannie!!
      lulz

  • Seannie5

    Is the guy from SNL that Elizabeth Moss married a scientologist? When they separated she said that he did a great job of acting as if he was a human being. No love lost there. Wonder if he told her a few home truths about her faith….

    • Artoo45

      Fred Armisen has never discussed his relationship or why they broke it off. He’s not a Sciloon. Maybe that’s why. The Celebrity Scientologist blogthings always implied that she’s about to blow.

  • DamOTclese2

    Damn, Twitter is smokin’ hot tonight! Golden Globe and Scientology advertisements. I really, REALLY Love Ellen DeGeneres. Such style, wit, and grace. 24 million followers!

  • Seannie5

    Jennifer Lawrence won again? I don’t get the hype

    • Jimmy Threetimes

      I think people take pity on her because she’s from a poor district. So they like to give her awards.

      • Seannie5

        LOL! good one!

    • Scream Nevermore

      I like the fact that she’s not afraid to be an ‘obese’ actress in an industry where women are supposed to be so skinny their knees are fatter than their thighs. And she can act too!

  • MaxSpaceman

    Captain David Miscavige’s Sea Organization, Landlord Office operations, results of building management in the land of Clearwater.

    Report from Clamwater, Florida. 2014 Jan 12. From man-on-the-scene Mike Rinder, Clearwater, FL.
    .
    “The Coachman is being fumigated and is entirely covered in a yellow and white tent (maybe they had leftover stuff from the Grand Marquis Event Superdome and Voldemort decided he missed it so he had them drape it over the Coachman to remind of the “greatest moment in history” when he announced GAG II). Actually, its being done by Haskell pest and termite control. Must have had some serious issues in there. Of course its empty now as everything is in the Cathedral/Mecca/SP building. But really, is this up to Sea Org standards of cleanliness to have to fumigate the entire building for infestations?

  • aurora50

    Very well written story of CoS malfunction and betrayal, from the South African blog:

    ‘The end result? My family is in the throes of being disconnected
    from, my wife has just been comm-ev’d and is being unfriended daily on
    facebook, and my son at Flag has disconnected from me.

    This is the thanks I get from a group I have done nothing other than support my entire life.

    We live and learn!

    One of the first LRH appointed Commodore’s Messenger. Flag Ship Apollo, 1967.’

    http://backincomm.wordpress.com/2014/01/12/the-building-of-an-idle-morgue-pretoria/#more-671

  • Charlotte

    I think Florence Nightingale would be so proud to see the uses her pie chart has been put to.

    {{{}}}

  • valshifter

    Q. (ByMr.Jeffrey) Is that howyou-all operate is that after youhave a concern about involvement of RTC or DavidMiscavige, you then create contracts and documents in order to further insulate yourselves?

  • ShoopZ

    Don’t know if anyone will see this…

    • Jenstnick

      Hilarious. Be sure to post on Monday’s article so everyone else can see.

      • ShoopZ

        Thanks. I’ll do that. :-)

        • DodoTheLaser

          Everyone on OT III has a WTF? moment, I am sure. Good shoop.

    • DodoTheLaser

      “I found it hard to believe
      Got all caught up being freed

      Everything that I had
      You wrenched it out of my hands..

      ..When the tension breaks
      And lying’s as natural as breathing
      I’m going to invite you right down
      To rise to the occasion

      Why don’t you say what you mean?
      Why don’t you show what you feel
      Tainted by your own self doubt
      Say you hate to leave, well let me help you out

      Whose side are you on?”

      The Almighty – “Wrench”

  • Krew13
  • Missionary Kid

    Post Co$ employment for DM Courtesy of Derek Bloch. Warning: Disqus has removed this list before, so it may disappear. I won’t be acknowledging your answers, so just reply to this post to add your entry.
    Accountant
    Aerobics instructor (arms only — left arm, right arm, left arm)
    Ambulance chaser
    Amway distributor
    Amway representative
    Animal sperm extractor specializing in bovine and porcine extractions.
    Asbestos Abatement Techie
    Assistant to a Burger Flipper.
    Become the new spokesperson for Sham Wow
    Car park attendant for an “Extras” car park.
    Comment flagger on the Bunker (no pay, just being a dick)
    copper rod supplier
    Dancing with the Stars
    Donald Trump Apprentice
    Donald Trump’s new hairpiece
    Door to door used dildo salesman
    Drunk on disability
    Expert hostile witness
    Fake Salvation Army Bell-Ringer (pocket the money, sell the bell)
    Fight Club feather weight
    Fluffer
    Fox News Science Correspondent
    Fukushima Nuclear disaster clean-up worker. (His smoking will protect him from the radiation).
    Getting paid to do clinical trials for experimental psychiatric drugs
    Go work with Tommy as a gofer at that real estate company.
    Groom of the Stool
    Late night penis enhancement surgery ad on cable TV.
    License plate maker for the State of California, or State of Florida.
    Mannequin at Men’s Wearhouse
    Nigerian Prince
    Nighttime Assistant Bathroom Attendant.
    Number one reseller of tiny podiums on eBay.
    Official deposition giver…forever
    Polygrip pitchman (“See? It makes my lips stick together only a little bit.”)
    Pope of Blackberry
    Presidential press secretary
    Quality Control on a buttplug assembly line
    Radio talk show host
    Real estate broker
    Sadistic Dom of a BDSM club
    SCOHB
    Sell his speeches as instruments of torture.
    Seller of reverse mortgages on late night cable TV stations
    Septic tank cleaner (Have Tootbrush, Will Travel) for a Roto Rooter franchisee.
    Sign Spinner outside of Round Table Pizza
    Slumlord.
    Speech Writer for Kin Jong Un
    Spokesman for Power Wheels.
    Stable mucker
    Televangelist, for Jesus this time
    The guy who sells knock-off Rolexes at bus depots
    The next Michael Ovitz of Hollywood (bullying delusional Super Agent who also enjoyed a spectacular downfall)
    Three card monte hustler on Hollywood Blvd.
    toilet cleaner at the federal supermax ADX Florence
    Tom Cruise’s wife
    Toys R Us Kid.
    Unemployable
    Walmart greeter
    Weather Man
    Whore See picture below. http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7593/aoaim5.png
    Whore SCOHB
    Work for a PR firm that does spin doctoring for Phillip Morris
    World’s Worst Wal-mart Greeter.

    • http://www.4chan.org/ Vistaril

      Prison sex toy . . .

      • vistaril_LOL

        I like that – let’s hope it comes true.

    • ThetaBara

      Dogcatcher
      Valet parker
      Shoe shiner
      WWF bad guy

  • Missionary Kid

    Post Co$ employment for DM Courtesy of Derek Bloch. Warning: Disqus has removed this list before, so it may disappear. I won’t be acknowledging your answers, so just reply to this post to add your entry.
    Accountant
    Aerobics instructor (arms only — left arm, right arm, left arm)
    Ambulance chaser
    Amway distributor
    Amway representative
    Animal sperm extractor specializing in bovine and porcine extractions.
    Asbestos Abatement Techie
    Assistant to a Burger Flipper.
    Become the new spokesperson for Sham Wow
    Car park attendant for an “Extras” car park.
    Comment flagger on the Bunker (no pay, just being a dick)
    copper rod supplier
    Dancing with the Stars
    Dogcatcher
    Donald Trump Apprentice
    Donald Trump’s new hairpiece
    Door to door used dildo salesman
    Drunk on disability
    Expert hostile witness
    Fake Salvation Army Bell-Ringer (pocket the money, sell the bell)
    Fight Club feather weight
    Fluffer
    Fox News Science Correspondent
    Fukushima Nuclear disaster clean-up worker. (His smoking will protect him from the radiation).
    Getting paid to do clinical trials for experimental psychiatric drugs
    Go work with Tommy as a gofer at that real estate company.
    Groom of the Stool
    Late night penis enhancement surgery ad on cable TV.
    License plate maker for the State of California, or State of Florida.
    Mannequin at Men’s Wearhouse
    Nigerian Prince
    Nighttime Assistant Bathroom Attendant.
    Number one reseller of tiny podiums on eBay.
    Official deposition giver…forever
    Polygrip pitchman (“See? It makes my lips stick together only a little bit.”)
    Pope of Blackberry
    Presidential press secretary
    Prison sex toy
    Quality Control on a buttplug assembly line
    Radio talk show host
    Real estate broker
    Sadistic Dom of a BDSM club
    SCOHB
    Sell his speeches as instruments of torture.
    Seller of reverse mortgages on late night cable TV stations
    Septic tank cleaner (Have Tootbrush, Will Travel) for a Roto Rooter franchisee.
    Shoe shiner
    Sign Spinner outside of Round Table Pizza
    Slumlord.
    Speech Writer for Kin Jong Un
    Spokesman for Power Wheels.
    Stable mucker
    Televangelist, for Jesus this time
    The guy who sells knock-off Rolexes at bus depots
    The next Michael Ovitz of Hollywood (bullying delusional Super Agent who also enjoyed a spectacular downfall)
    Three card monte hustler on Hollywood Blvd.
    toilet cleaner at the federal supermax ADX Florence
    Tom Cruise’s wife
    Toys R Us Kid.
    Unemployable
    Valet parker
    Walmart greeter
    Weather Man
    Whore SCOHB

  • cambriasvision

    I know I’m new to posting, but I just had a thought that I would love your opinions on. I know that Gary Weber has spoken out before this, but do you think that since the church is in such horrible (and hilarious) position, that more ex members with stories such as his who have not spoken out yet will feel more comfortable and ready to speak out now? I certainly hope so…

    • Sarah James

      For the most part. This site is a safe place to fall. Keep in mind a lot of people may practice scion or had it practiced on them, well, many have yet to discover the true nature of the beast (LRH.) David Miscavige is easy to figure out, as he is about greed and control. LRH was A doctor, scientist NOT. Once you see him for what he was…all about greed and control then you have taken off the blinders. It’s a jolt, it’s a big leap. It takes time. This site will give you the facts. Something truthful, and from there you can do the digging for what is real.
      In or out you have to have your family on board, and until that happens…but yes I think it is becomming easier for many to share their scientology experience.

  • Lawrenve de Row

    I’m late to butt in — just saw this conversation, nearly 20 hrs after all your communications.

    First, I was enthralled to see the back and forth about Hubbard and/vs. COB (Chairman of the Board; i.e. David M.).

    Second, I have been itching to give my 2 cents worth in this.

    Third, I have a 30 year + personal experience as a staff member and Sea Org Member.

    In the 70s and early 80s, no matter how rough it was as a staff member or Sea Org Member, there was a
    respect of one’s person, to the longevity of one’s service on staff, to the ‘you can make it go right’ attitude, because if was ‘you’ as a staff member, who made it go right and you were trusted that you would do so without supervision or minute orders or having to report to one’s senior every few hours.

    Later on, even though LRH was still alive, but with the advent of ‘Special Project’ and then RTC, my
    personal observation and experience was that the regard for the individual staff member diminished. It was really in the late 80s and early 90s when I became more aware of the disregard of the individual staff member and an increase the harshness one was spoken to. In the beginning the changes were subtle but they were there.

    A decade later it was VERY obvious. RTC representatives walked around in black uniforms with sour faces
    and senior executives of major management organizations or major Sea Org Churches were obviously in tears after a meeting with one or more of these RTC representatives. Whenever I saw this, I wondered what thrashing they had received over not-achieved targets, and where was the use of evaluations technology,
    where was the use of cramming (a short-term corrective measure that tried to find the reason and the administrative solution to a problem), where was the use of ARC (affinity-reality-communications; a triangle of these three creating understanding). It seemed to disappear under a cloud of generated fear and verbal abuse.

    The insulting ‘being talked at’-type attitude became more and more obvious to me, the disregard,
    disrespect, the foul language increased by the years. However normal things like cramming, or just an honest ‘how are you’, or celebrating X-Mas or New Years where one had someday(s) of free time to be with friends or go skiing (as was natural with staff and Sea Org Units in the 70s and early 80s) disappears totally.

    This change in respect to ones fellow staff – i.e. treat him/her with disrespect, with vile words, with implied ‘out-ethics’ — all that came more and more into being within COB’s realm — and the differences in these aspects between ‘when LRH was at the helm’ and when COB started his reign — are HUGE! As the saying goes: sh… rolls down.

    Is/ was there are difference between the ‘rule’ under LRH and COB- HELL; THERE IS!
    No matter your opinion about LRH, in my eyes, he still valued the individual person — however, COB …. ???

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Welcome to the Bunker. We are always interested in other perspectives on what it was like to be inside CoS– especially for folks who were there back in the day.

      Please, don’t be a stranger.

  • Toni m

    This piece of crap was abusing others when he was a CMO, Now that he is the head of the cult he want us to believe that he is not using this increase in power to abuse others. The iron incident, the abuses, the abortions, the money laundry of not only the “donation money” but the tax-payers money, disconnection, disappearances. So many years and they keep happening. Those “happy” people in the commercials promoting this cult. It’s sick. Mrs cook was one of them and she changed. Her e-mail helped others to open their eyes. They gave her hell but she must be happy for the ones that are out because of her. Thanks to her and all the others that are now speaking out, exes and reporters like Mr Ortega, Mr Bunker, Mr Sweeney and many others. Thanks for your bravery. Are we going to see the end of this cult soon? Hope so.