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THE MARTY RATHBUN AFFIDAVIT: Scientology Leader David Miscavige Lied To Texas Court

Marty and Monique Rathbun

Marty and Monique Rathbun

Last night, stunning new documents were filed in Monique Rathbun’s lawsuit against the Church of Scientology and its leader, David Miscavige.

New defendants have been added to the lawsuit, which is heading for a temporary injunction hearing a week from today. But the real fireworks come in responses to a declaration filed last week by Miscavige in his attempt to be let out of the lawsuit.

Miscavige argued that he should be let out of the suit because he has only a limited role in Scientology, has conducted no activities in the state of Texas, and he has never even heard of one of his fellow defendants, a private investigator named Monty Drake.

We predicted that Miscavige might be stepping into some trouble with those statements — in our own reporting, we had talked to two men who said they worked directly for Miscavige and had conducted business for him in Texas.

And now, Monique Rathbun has brought the hammer down on Miscavige in the form of a lengthy affidavit by her husband, Mark “Marty” Rathbun, who worked closely with Miscavige as his top lieutenant for 17 years until 2004, when he left the church after a total of 27 years in Scientology. And in that time, Rathbun says, he carried out numerous operations in Texas for Miscavige, including a couple of schemes in the wake of the 1995 Florida death of Scientologist Lisa McPherson, who was from Dallas.

In his affidavit, Marty Rathbun has provided his most lengthy sworn explanation of his activities working for Scientology and Miscavige, and it is an explosive document. It provides voluminous detail which explains that Miscavige does not have a limited role in the church but in fact rules every aspect of it with an iron fist. And with that complete control, Rathbun says, Miscavige certainly has conducted numerous activities in Texas, contrary to his sworn declaration.

Miscavige, according to the Rathbuns, lied to Comal County, Texas Judge Dib Waldrip. And on September 12 and 13, Judge Waldrip will be asked to decide who’s telling the truth and rule on Miscavige’s special appearance and request to be let out of the suit. It should be very interesting.

Before we get to Marty Rathbun’s lengthy affidavit, we will reveal the two defendants who have been added in an amended complaint Monique Rathbun filed last night.

Now, along with Scientology leader David Miscavige, two Scientology corporate entities — the Church of Scientology International (CSI) and the Religious Technology Center (RTC) — a Dallas private investigator named Monty Drake, and a former U.S. marshal named Steven Gregory Sloat, there are two additional defendants…

— Scientology’s chief private investigator, Dave Lubow, who the Rathbuns allege masterminded the “Squirrel Busters” episode of harassment that lasted nearly 200 days at their previous home.

— And Ed Bryan, a Scientologist who was one of the Squirrel Busters.

The amended complaint reiterates that Monique, who met Marty in 2005 and married him in 2010, was never a member of the church of Scientology. When Marty began criticizing Miscavige publicly in 2009, the Rathbuns say they became the target of years of harassing behavior by the church. Monique is suing on grounds of intentional infliction of emotional distress, tortious interference of her employment contract, and invasion of privacy. She’s asking for more than a million dollars in damages.

Miscavige’s attorney had criticized the previous version of the lawsuit, saying that Monique hadn’t provided very many specifics about her harassment. So in this amended complaint, she provides more detail.

She says that the harassing behavior has been coordinated by Scientology’s intelligence and covert operations division, the Office of Special Affairs (OSA), which is technically under the Church of Scientology International, but which actually reports directly to RTC and Miscavige.

“Mr. Miscavige is the one and only person in the Church of Scientology who may authorize a destructive OSA campaign, such as the one undertaken against the Rathbuns,” the complaint alleges.

As we said on Sunday, when Miscavige claimed in his declaration that he had “conducted no activities” in Texas, we immediately thought of the private investigators Paul Marrick and Greg Arnold, who had told us they worked only on orders of Miscavige or his direct lieutenant, and who in 2009 had worked in Texas to surveil Marty Rathbun.

The amended complaint, as we expected, brings up Marrick and Arnold’s work in Texas. But it also says that Marrick and Arnold were brought in even though the church had been using Dallas private eye Monty Drake since the 1990s.

“Prior to learning of this lawsuit, I had never heard of nor did I have any knowledge of Defendants Mr. Sloat and Mr. Drake,” Miscavige said in his declaration.

The new amended complaint says that’s simply not true: “Mr. Miscavige was well aware of Monty Drake, whose name Mr. Miscavige thought was humorous, and whose investigative reports were handed to Mr. Miscavige for his personal attention.”

As for Miscavige and RTC conducting no business in Texas, the new complaint counters that assertion with an official report from a law enforcement source. When John Brousseau, a longtime Scientologist, made his 2010 escape from Scientology’s International Base near Hemet, California (see our two-part story about Brousseau for The Village Voice), RTC president Warren McShane reported to the Riverside County Sheriff’s Department that Brousseau had stolen equipment when he left. (Brousseau says he was careful to take only his own personal property when he left. He was never charged with a crime.)

McShane told sheriff’s deputies that “RTC had previously contracted with a private security firm in the State of Texas to monitor Mr. Rathbun’s activities.” (Emphasis ours.)

McShane also told the Sheriff’s Office that he sent four RTC employees to Texas to find Brousseau and convince him to return to the base. (One of the four was Tommy Davis, at the time one of the church’s top spokesmen. Davis is no longer a Sea Org employee, and is now living in Austin working for a large real estate fund.)

In RTC’s special appearance filed last week in an attempt to remove RTC from the lawsuit, a declaration from Warren McShane was attached, claiming that RTC did no business in Texas.

Yes, the same Warren McShane who told Sheriff’s deputies in 2010 that RTC had a security detail working in Texas, and had sent Tommy Davis and three other employees to track down John Brousseau.

The amended complaint also includes excerpts from a message written by Squirrel Buster Ed Bryan about the Office of Special Affairs being in control of the Squirrel Busters operation, and an excerpt of an e-mail from OSA to Squirrel Buster Joanne Wheaton, giving her instructions on how to deal with Marty Rathbun.

The complaint also now mentions Bert Leahy, a freelance videographer who, after briefly working for the Squirrel Busters, left in disgust when he realized it was more a harassment operation than an actual documentary crew. He later blew the whistle on the scheme, helping Rathbun prove that Dave Lubow, the Scientology private eye, was behind it.

The complaint also quotes a letter from Scientology spokeswoman Karin Pouw to a British journalist that we first made public at The Village Voice, showing that the church was connected to anonymous smear websites, some of which made use of footage filmed by the Squirrel Busters in Texas.

As for Monty Drake, the amended complaint alleges that the Dallas private investigator leased a house down the block from the Rathbuns so it could be stocked with high-power cameras to watch their every move and send those images by network to California.

The Rathbuns apparently aim to prove to a jury that from his comfortable bases in California, David Miscavige not only kept crews of employees working in Texas, but even watched it happen over those remote-controlled cameras aimed at the Rathbun home.

“Mr. Miscavige may have been careful to keep his body outside Texas, but he personally directed several OSA operations in Texas,” the complaint says in summation.

Whew — Miscavige’s attorney complained about details, and he sure got them.

And then there’s Marty Rathbun’s affidavit. It’s quite lengthy, but we predict it will quickly become a key historical document in Scientology studies. We’re reproducing it in full here, as well as embedding the entire legal document below. We can’t predict what Judge Waldrip will think of Rathbun’s account, but the former Scientology executive has provided a truly remarkable blueprint to David Miscavige’s power over Scientology, and his extensive operations in the state of Texas…

 

AFFIDAVIT OF MARK RATHBUN

“My name is Mark Rathbun. I am also known as Marty Rathbun. I am over the age of eighteen (18) years, of sound mind, and otherwise capable of making this affidavit. I have personal knowledge of the facts and statements contained herein, and all are true and correct.”

1. “I served with Mr. Miscavige in Scientology’s Sea Organization for 27 years. From 1982 to 2004, I answered directly to Mr. Miscavige. As Inspector General of Religious Technology Center (“RTC”), I was Mr. Miscavige’s second in command. Mr. Miscavige and I were the only Scientologists ever awarded Scientology’s “Medal of Honor” by its founder, L. Ron Hubbard. In the history of Scientology, no other Church executive worked with Mr. Miscavige more closely, for a longer period of time, than I did.

2. “The complex network of Scientology organizations is run by a shadow organization known as the Sea Organization, or Sea Org. It is so named because it was formed originally by Scientology founder L. Ron Hubbard, in 1967 aboard a ship sailing the Mediterranean Sea. The Sea Org is a paramilitary hierarchy. Each Sea Org member holds a naval rank, from Swamper (initiate) to Commodore, the title held by L. Ron Hubbard during his life. Sea Org members vow by contract to serve for a billion years. The Sea Org was organized from the beginning by Hubbard to be amorphous and mobile so as to evade criminal or civil liabilities. The Sea Org was Hubbard’s ultimate answer to his own description of the philosophic bases for Scientology organizations’ legal structure:

‘If anybody tried to attack a Scientology organization and pick it up and move it out of the perimeter or go over the hills with it today — this happened to us once — why, they would find themselves involved in the most confounded weird mass of legal — well, it is just like quicksand. Quicksand. It’s an interesting trick. Every time they shoot at you on the right side of a horse, you’re on the left side of the house; and then they prove conclusively you’re on the left side of the horse, you prove conclusively that you’re on the right side of the horse. They go made after a while. This is what the basic legal structure is.’

3. “Since the 1967 formation of the controlling, yet amorphous Sea Org, the corporate structures of Scientology have come and gone, and changed and reformed, many times. The only significant factor that has remained constant through Scientology’s many corporate transformations is that the highest ranking Sea Org member is in complete control.

4. “Until Hubbard’s death in January of 1986, that controlling leader was Hubbard himself, the Commodore of the Sea Org. Since Hubbard’s death, that controlling leader has been David Miscavige. Miscavige has held complete control of all Scientology organizations as the highest ranking Sea Org officer. Since Hubbard’s death, Miscavige has been the Sea Org’s only Captain, and no one holds a higher rank. Over the years, Miscavige has temporarily bestowed a number of brevet (temporary) Captain ranks to other senior Sea org members. He has done so, as he explained to me, for the purpose of obscuring his own unquestioned control of all of Scientology as its Sea org Captain. For several years, I carried the temporary rank of brevet Captain, but Miscavige retained absolute control as the only permanent Captain of the Sea Org.

5. “Until his death, Hubbard controlled all of Scientology. The Scientology organizations shielded him from civil and criminal liabilities by maintaining the fiction that he was merely the “Founder of Scientology.” His position was described as an arm’s length, passive, semi-retired position uninvolved with the management of Scientology operations. All the while, the thousands of Sea Org personnel answered to him as their all-powerful commander. Directions from Sea Org command took precedence over all the corporate charters, bylaws, and articles of incorporation of the myriad Scientology corporations staffed by Sea Org management.

6. “In 1981, I was recruited by Mr. Miscavige from my position in the personal office of L. Ron Hubbard to join a critical Sea Org mission. Mr. Hubbard had been driven into seclusion by federal prosecutors and civil litigants who were making a determined effort to pierce the Scientology corporate veil in order to indict and sue Mr. Hubbard as the effective head of all Scientology operations.

7. “Mr. Hubbard’s wife, Mary Sue Hubbard, and ten other high-level Sea Org members were convicted in federal court of obstruction of justice. They were members of Scientology’s Guardian’s Office. The Guardian’s Office had carried out the largest domestic infiltration of the United States Government in American history, and these co-conspirators went to federal prison. Due to the Guardians Office scandal, Hubbard directed Miscavige to accomplish three major aims: (1) re-create an intelligence, PR and legal network to replace the disgraced Guardians Office in a way that would protect Scientology’s spying and harassment operations by using buffer corporations and new levels of security; (2) by any means necessary, end the multitude of criminal and civil threats pending against Hubbard and Scientology; and (3) create a new corporate structure that would allow the Sea Org to operate as it always had, but with legal buffers in place that would prevent future ‘enemies’ from getting to Hubbard or other top Sea Org officer.

8. “We accomplished the creations of a new intelligence, PR and legal machine by establishing the Office of Special Affairs (OSA). Under Hubbard’s and Miscavige’s close supervision, I organized OSA to effectively continue to silence potential critics and defectors without exposing Hubbard, Miscavige or the Scientology organizations to legal liability. For the next five years, until Hubbard’s death, we worked to extinguish his outstanding criminal and civil liabilities. I was also involved in the corporate re-organization that was intended to buffer Hubbard and Miscavige from liability.

9. “A year after Hubbard’s death, Mr. Miscavige informed me that he needed a defensible corporate position to enjoy the protections of the new corporate structure. To accomplish this goal, Miscavige used his Sea Org rank to seize control of all Scientology corporations. Miscavige and I accomplished this by carrying out a coup at the highest, controlling corporations in the Scientology hierarchy, Religious Technology Center (RTC). Miscavige and I, with two other high-ranking Sea Org members, dressed in fully decorated Sea Org naval officer uniforms, forcibly expelled the officers and directors of RTC and coerced them to relinquish their corporate positions to us. If asked, all the Sea Org members involved, would falsely swear that the changes at RTC were done in the normal course of its corporate business pursuant to long-standing policy that testifying against another Scientologist is a high crime.

10. “I became a Director and the President of RTC. For weeks Miscavige struggled with creating a position for himself that would afford the full autocratic control befitting his Captain rank while shielding him from corporate and legal responsibility for the consequences of his tight control. Mr. Miscavige finally settled on the title ‘Chairman of the Board, Religious Technology Center.’ While never holding a corporate officer’s position, Miscavige could legally claim he simply passively passed upon the proposals of the corporate and ecclesiastical officers of RTC in the same manner as in an legitimate corporation. According to RTC’s articles and bylaws, its only authorized function is to police the ‘proper use of the trademarks of Dianetics and Scientology.’

11. “As the all-powerful head of the Sea Organization, David Miscavige operated in much the same manner as Hubbard. Miscavige created for himself the public appearance of an arm’s length title for the outside world to see. Beneath the appearance, he exercised total control over all Scientology organizations through his supreme rank as Captain of the Sea Org.

12. “In fact, from the day our forced corporate takeover began in March of 1987, Miscavige ran the entire Scientology corporate network with no regard for corporate separateness or controls. He managed with an obsessive, micro-managing style. For the next 17 years that I worked as Miscavige’s direct aide, he ran the Scientology network as tightly as a naval captain runs a military vessel. All the while we communicated to the world at large, including through our own false declarations, that Miscavige’s role was the same as that of any corporate board chairman. We claimed that he operates through the RTC board of directors to oversee the operational management of RTC’s corporate and ecclesiastical officers. We also falsely denied that Miscavige was in any way involved in the management of any Scientology corporation.

13. “Meanwhile, Miscavige set up a mechanism to control Church of Scientology International (CSI), Scientology’s primary management corporation. Miscavige created an Authorization, Verification and Correction (AVC) department in RTC. Miscavige required that no strategy, program, project, or order of any kind could leave CSI to any SCientology unit anywhere without going through RTC’s AVC department. AVC’s original mandate was that nothing could issue from CSI unless it was consistent with and designed to implement the policies of Commodore L. Ron Hubbard. Soon, however, Miscavige changed the rules so that nothing could issue from CSI except orders or programs implementing Miscavige’s own commands.

14. “Over the next few years, the entire Scientology corporate and ecclesiastical (Sea Org) organization came to equate ‘COB,’ as Miscavige became known, with “Commodore,” as L. Ron Hubbard was known. COB’s orders could not be questioned or disobeyed. Through his AVC department’s control of every communication emanating from CSI, Miscavige exercised complete control of CSI, Scientology’s main operating entity. I witnessed Miscavige’s control enforced without question from anyone in RTC, CSI, or any other Scientolgoy corporation for the next 17 years.

15. “By the mid-1990’s, Miscavige’s every utterance was ruthlessly enforced throughout all Scientology corporations. He regularly strode through Church of Scientology International’s California headquarters while barking verbal orders to anyone and everyone, from the janitors to managers responsible for Scientology management across the world.

16. “Miscavige was always accompanied by an entourage of personal staff. A staff member always carried a tape recorder to memorialize every word he spoke. Just before any audio tape would run out, another recorder would be started and held by an assistant inches from his mouth so as not to miss a single word when the first tape was replaced. Runners were on hand to rush every completed audio tape to COB’s secretarial unit. There, several typists were employed, 24 hours per day, typing every word from Miscavige’s mouth, from the moment he awoke to the moment he laid his head to rest at night. The secretarial unit culled almost every sentence from the transcripts that contained a direction or order Miscavige issued during his daily tours though the offices of Scientology corporations. Thoe excerpts were issued as written orders to the people Miscavige had directed his comments or orders to during his tours. The orders were so frequent and voluminous that massive rows of high-density files were filled with binders of Miscavige’s orders to RTC, CSI, and other Scientology corporations. The orders were tracked by computers, generating automatic nudges to the recipients to send evidence of compliance. Escalating levels of punishment were devised and enforced for non-compliance over time.

17. “The Office of Special Affairs (OSA) is the legal, public relations, and intelligence network of CSI. One or more network representatives are employed by every Scientology organization across the world. Each of them is operated and managed by OSA International (OSA INT) which is housed within CSI. Although OSA is formally answerable to CSI’s management, from OSA’s inception in the early 1980s, until my departure in December 2004, the formal management structure was a sham. OSA was carefully micromanaged by David Miscavige. he exercised his control through me, Inspector General of RTC, and Mike Rinder, Commanding Officer of OSA International.

18. “Between 1982 and 2004, it was my job to act as a go-between for Miscavige and OSA. The manner in which we shielded Miscavige was elaborate. Much of Miscavige’s control of OSA was done “off the record.” Every evening I would receive an intelligence briefing in writing from OSA. The briefing was usually several pages summarizing reports from private investigators and Scientologists serving as undercover spies watching and interacting with Scientology critics. The written briefing, contrary to established corporate policy, had no routing information on it. That is, the daily briefing had no indication who wrote the report or who it was directed to. If a report ever got out of the Church, it could not, on its face, be used to incriminate any of its author or recipients.

19. “After I read the report each day, I was instructed by Miscavige to put it into a fresh envelope with no routing information on it. I then personally carried the envelope into Miscavige’s office and set it on his desk. I was the only person in Scientology, aside from his wife and secretary, ever authorized such access to his desk. When Mr. Miscavige read the reports, he would enter my office with the report in hand. He would say ‘beat it’ to my secretary or anyone else who happened to be in my office. Once any visitors had left, Mr. Miscavige would discuss the contents of the report. Often, he would instruct me to order OSA to direct an operative or private investigator to find out something to do concerning the target of infiltration or investigation. On other occasions, Mr. Miscavige would joke about what was reported about a particular target, or rant about the target’s activity. When Miscavige was done discussing the daily OSA briefing with me, he would throw the report on my desk. That was my cue to pick it up and shred it after he left the office and before anyone was permitted to return to my office.

20. “For 22 years, my schedule was to wake up at least an hour before David Miscavige’s scheduled wake up time so that I could collect all important information on any matter of concern to him being handled by the OSA network. Every morning, I was required to brief Miscavige verbally on any major developments on matters handled by the OSA network around the world or matters concerning security. My briefing to him would begin with major problems which he insisted he know about. My briefing included reports about handling the media stories, investigations, legal cases, security breaches, and potential security situations. That briefing would last anywhere from a few minutes on a quiet day with no major developments, to all day when something was afoot that riveted Miscavige’s attention. Miscavige would issue orders to OSA that I had to accurately note on paper.

21. “After the conference with Miscavige, there were a number of options available for issuing his orders, depending on their scope and the level of security required. Most often, I would call Mike Rinder, into my office and I would brief him verbally on Miscavige’s directives. Mr. Rinder would then return to his own office and type up the orders as written directives to OSA. Those directives would be worded as if the orders were originated by him, with no reference to me or RTC, and especially not to Mr. Miscavige. On many occasions, Mr. Miscavige would require Mr. Rinder’s presence during briefings in which he wanted more detail than usual, or wanted to issue more detailed orders than usual. In such cases, it would be my responsibility to follow up to verify that Mr. Rinder relayed Mr. Miscavige’s orders to OSA as Rinder’s own orders.

22. “Mr. Rinder and I were ordered by Mr. Miscavige to keep secret virtually all of our communications, and to specifically keep them secret from any other managers or staff with CSI and RTC. All other CSI managers had little to no knowledge of any matters affecting Scientology from the world outside of the Church. Except for OSA staff, Sea Org members have little contact with the media or the world outside of their corporate duties.

23. “The highest priority OSA matters that I had to monitor and report on several times a day to Mr. Miscavige were ones that involved his name. If a staff member left unannounced from the Scientology corporate headquarters, and the person had any personal knowledge of Mr. Miscavige by way of regular contact with him, I was required to personally direct a massive dragnet utilizing Sea Org staff from RTC and CSI, and private investigators, to hunt down that staff member. This occurred on average a couple of times per year. I was micromanaged on such manhunts by Mr. Miscavige personally. I would make sure the person was contacted, and put under control and sometimes order ongoing surveillance through OSA that could last up to several years.

24. “If a journalist mentioned anything about interest in Mr. Miscavige, I directed and monitored every conversation between a church representative and that journalist. I prepared the staff member in advance and debriefed him afterward, all of which I reported directly to Miscavige.

25. “If a lawsuit named or sought discovery that involved Miscavige, I oversaw every aspect of that litigation until Miscavige was no longer subject to inquiry. During my tenure of more than 20 years, Miscavige micromanaged every single action that was taken by any OSA staff member, intelligence officer, private investigator or attorney related to that matter. No OSA operation, whether or not it involved outside professionals, could be undertaken on any matter potentially involving the name ‘David Miscavige,’ without Miscavige’s fully-informed and direct authorization and direction. That rule included even the potential defection of a staff member with only tangential information about Mr. Miscavige. OSA was founded on this policy, and I instituted it and carried it out painstakingly for 22 years, from 1982 to 2004, when I departed RTC.

26. “For more than 20 years, the Office of Special Affairs (“OSA”) of the Church of Scientology International answered to me. Under the close supervision of Mr. Miscavige, I directed OSA’s extensive, ongoing security, intelligence, “black ops,” public relations, and criminal and civil legal matters. Mr. Miscavige obsessively micromanaged OSA’s handling of perceived threats, including the threat of former Scientologists who complained of abuses occurring in the Church.

27. “I have read the Declaration of David Miscavige in Support of Special Appearance in this case. Mr. Miscavige’s Declaration is false, for the factual reasons stated above and below:

A. Miscavige’s false statement: “Prior to learning of this lawsuit, I had never heard of nor did I have any knowledge of Defendants Mr. Sloat and Mr. Drake.”

28. “Mr. Miscavige has known of the Church’s employment of Monty Drake since the 1990’s. Mr. Drake became Scientology’s primary private investigator for Texas matters in the early 1990’s. In 1996, Miscavige asked me whether we had any private detectives in the State of Texas. I told him that we retained Monty Drake, a private investigator in the Dallas area, who we used to investigate a former RTC executive living in Dallas. Miscavige expressed amusement at Mr. Drake’s name, and questioned me whether “Monty Drake” was a real name or an undercover name. I informed him that Monty Drake was a real name.

29. “David Miscavige ordered me on several occasions between 1996 and 2004, to have Mr. Drake obtain both specific and general information on the family of Lisa McPherson. Lisa McPherson was a young Scientologist who died while in the care of the Church of Scientology. I relayed Mr. Miscavige’s orders to Ben Shaw of Church of Scientology Flag Service Organization and Linda Hamel of OSA. Both Ms. Hamel and Mr. Shaw sent me several reports of Mr. Drake’s investigations. I personally handed each of Mr. Drake’s reports to Mr. Miscavige, during the criminal and civil litigation concerning Ms. McPherson and her family.

30. “In the 1990’s, I also personally delivered to Mr. Miscavige a number of Mr. Drake’s reports concerning the Church’s multiyear investigation of Alan Walters, a former Scientologists in Texas. Mr. Miscavige read these reports of the Texas investigation and used the information to direct OSA’s activities in Texas against Mr. Walters.

B. Miscavige’s false statements: “I have never availed myself of the privilege of conducting activities within the State of Texas.” & “I have not made any purposeful contacts with the State of Texas seeking any benefit, advantage, or profit.” & “I have not otherwise availed myself of the benefits and protection of Texas law.”

31. “In addition to the facts stated above, the following facts demonstrate the falsity of Mr. Miscavige’s Declaration. Mr. Miscavige was intensely involved with the handling of the fallout from the death of Lisa McPherson in Florida. He devised a strategy to bring legal action in Texas, rather than Florida, against the executor of Ms. McPherson’s estate. Mr. Miscavige said that he did not want to litigate in the most obvious venue, Pinellas County, Florida, because he believed it would be hostile to Scientology. He ordered me to execute his Texas litigation plan.

32. “As I carried out Mr. Miscavige’s Texas strategy, he repeatedly stressed to me that no Texas suit could be filed unless I found Texas legal counsel so connected to the local judiciary as to assure victory to the Church.

33. “During the several weeks that I implemented Mr. Miscavige’s orders in Texas, I reported to him daily. After researching the issue of which Texas attorneys to retain, I recommended the Dallas law firm of Jenkins & Gilchrist. Mr. Miscavige ordered me to bring the attorneys to the Church’s facilities in the Tampa, Florida area for a two-day tour, briefing, and indoctrination.

34. “Mr. Miscavige ordered me to gain the Texas attorneys’ confidence so they would reveal to me the extent of their connections in the U.S. District Court in the Tyler Division of the Eastern District of Texas. After my discussions with them, the attorneys agreed to return to Texas and thoroughly investigate to find the Tyler attorney with the strongest ties to the three federal judges in U.s. District Court there.

35. “I reported to Mr. Miscavige the details of my conversations with the Jenkins & Gilchrist attorneys. Mr. Miscavige expressed mistrust of the attorneys’ representations. He ordered me to tell them that their continued retainer was conditioned on finding local counsel with such connections that he could walk unannounced into the chambers of any of the three federal judges.

36. “The Jenkins and Gilchrist lawyers reported to me that they had found the most connected lawyer in the Tyler Federal Courts and they provided me with many relevant details about the attorney’s connections. I reported these favorable details to Mr. Miscavige. He expressed disgust, however, with my failure to find a Texas lawyer whose connections would guarantee victory to the Church.

37. “Mr. Miscavige threw a tantrum and called me a “f—‘ing loser.” He lectured me that he was the only Scientologist with the dedication to stick his neck out and guarantee victory. He said he would have to be the one to personally handle this flap, as he had handled every other major problem of CSI’s Office of Special Affairs. After more ranting and raving at me, he ordered me to hire the local counsel selected by Jenkins & Gilchrist, with the warning that “if they don’t win, you are dead!”

38. “In December, 1995, David Miscavige ordered me to send Scientologist, Bennetta Slaughter, a former Texan living in Florida, to the funeral of Lisa McPherson in Dallas, Texas. His orders were for Ms. Slaughter to “handle” Lisa McPherson’s grieving mother and convince her not to investigate the circumstances of her daughter’s death. Miscavige instructed that if Ms. Slaughter had to resort to paying the mother to forget the loss of her daughter, we were willing to ‘lose a couple hundred grand for this to go away.’ Ms. Slaughter carried out the mission to Dallas, while reporting to me. Ms. Slaughter reported that, in spite of her family connections, her efforts to cozy up to Mrs. McPherson were rebuffed and she never established enough communication to suggest paying her. I reported all the details to Mr. Miscavige. Mr. Miscavige cursed harshly about Ms. Slaughter and then issued a number of orders about covering up the circumstances of Lisa McPherson’s death.

39. “In early 1996, Mr. Miscavige ordered me to send an OSA staff member, Brian Anderson, to approach Mrs. McPherson in Texas to accomplish the same purpose as the Slaughter mission. Mr. Miscavige briefed me in detail on how Mr. Anderson was to act so that he could gain Mrs. McPherson’s trust without betraying any details of her daughter’s death. I carried out Mr. Miscavige’s orders and sent Mr. Anderson to Dallas, Texas. In Dallas, Mr. Anderson asked to meet with Mrs. McPherson, but she rebuffed him. I reported all the details to Mr. Miscavige. In response, Mr. Miscavige cursed about the incompetence of Mr. Anderson and me.

40. “It is important to understand that Mr. Miscavige’s consistent custom and practice for more than 20 years was to closely monitor and micromanage every OSA operation dealing with Scientologists who dared to leave the Church. His involvement intensified if the person had been at a high level in the Church hierarchy and had personal knowledge of Mr. Miscavige’s activities. As noted above, I was the highest level officer in the Church after Mr. Miscavige, and I worked directly with him for 27 years.

41. “No Scientologist or groups of Scientologists, including OSA, have authority to undertake any intelligence operation or destructive campaign against a high-ranking defector without specific approval from David Miscavige. Furthermore, if he orders any such activities to proceed or to cease, his orders are carried out to the letter without question. He has total and absolute authority in all branches and all functions of the Scientology corporations.”

“Further affiant sayeth not.”

Mark Rathbun

 
There are many fascinating things in this document, not the least of which are the efforts expended to influence Lisa McPherson’s family, to monitor ex-Scientologist Alan Walter, and to make sure all of Scientology catered to Miscavige’s every whim. Just Saturday, we quoted Denise Brennan saying largely the same thing that Rathbun does here, that Scientology’s corporate structure is a sham, and that the Sea Organization — which is not a legal, corporate entity — actually rules the entire organization. If the IRS actually showed any interest, it might just be interested to know that this extra-legal control of Scientology by the Sea Org is in direct violation of the 1993 agreement that gave Scientology tax-exempt status in the United States.

But while the IRS sleeps, Monique Rathbun carries on. We can hardly wait to see what happens at next week’s hearing.

 
Here’s the document itself…

 

Monique Rathbun vs Scientology, First Amended Complaint

 
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Posted by Tony Ortega on September 5, 2013 at 07:00

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  • DamOTclese2

    “…including a couple of schemes in the wake of the 1995 Florida death of Scientologist Lisa McPherson, who was from Dallas.”

    It was murder. When you tie people down to their beds with towels and starve them to death, that’s murder.

  • DamOTclese2

    Dave Lubow — hope that fucktard gets what he deserves.

  • DamOTclese2

    “a declaration from Warren McShane was attached, claiming that RTC did no business in Texas”

    The fines for committing perjury against society is just the normal cost of doing business for the Scientology crime syndicate. McShane knows he’ll never see the inside of a prison for his crimes.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Unfortunately, the litigation where witnesses do not lie is the exception.

  • DamOTclese2

    AFFIDAVIT OF MARK RATHBUN — Question: Though Rathbun filed this in response to an extant civil case, can anyone submit his affidavit in other court trials civil and criminal anywhere in the United States? Can people file other affidavits filed in previous cases in support of cases involving the psychopathic dwarf’s control of the Scientology crime syndicate in their own civil and criminal cases?

    If so, everyone on the planet needs to copy off this affidavit and keep it for their own civil or criminal cases against the syndicate.

    • Robert Eckert

      It’s a public record now.

  • DamOTclese2

    “All the while we communicated to the world at large, including through our own false declarations, that Miscavigeโ€™s role was the same as that of any corporate board chairman.”

    The problem here is that Rathbun is admitting to committing perjury previously in other court documentation, doing so in a court document. The Judge — or anyone who reads this — is going to note the potential conflict here. He admits that he commits perjury, now he is asking the court to accept his affidavit as factual under threat of perjury.

    • Nevermore

      I suspect their lawyer has a strategy to deal with this.

      • DamOTclese2

        Marty could claim duress, I suppose, having committed perjury previously under orders.

        • Nevermore

          Hmmmm, then that might open the door to all sorts of stories, if he has to prove the level of duress, was he in fear for his life etc. A ginormous can of worm right there, and McScabbitch’s lawyers most likely couldn’t get that testimony ignored. Maybe that is part of the master plan?

  • CoffeeForTheAdmiral

    Long time lurker here. Any crack in the damn (on purpose) of Scientology is fine by me but I can’t get past one thing. Monique Rathbun is suing the Church for the same things that Marty Rathbun DID TO OTHERS FOR YEARS. Am I the only person perturbed by that?

    • MagicJesus

      Nope…
      You’re not.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Snorts!

    • Missionary Kid

      I daresay, you’re among a large crowd.

      • renaud

        Because everyone keeps pointing it out, ad nauseum.
        Shit, Rathbun was #2 in the cult. Everyone fucking knows that.

    • Nevermore

      I’d be more perturbed if Marty was the one doing the suing. What has Monique done to deserve harassment?

      • CoffeeForTheAdmiral

        Monique hasn’t done anything to warrant the treatment that she received, there’s no doubt about that. If she’s okay with the things he has done or caused to be done that’s fine. It just seems…ironic.

        • Nevermore

          Hell, even Hitler had someone who loved him and married him!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Well, for one, she married Marty Rathbun. I doubt he told her what he’d gotten up to whilst in Miss Savage’s service………. She might have thought twice if he had……

        • Nevermore

          Perhaps he convinced her he was a changed man. He would have been stupid NOT to tell her, as all she’d have to do is Goggle him. I don’t doubt he would have warned her about the fair gaming she’d face. Like most ordinary citizens she probably thought he was exaggerating, but now she knows he wasn’t and she’s good and mad, and ready to fight back!

    • Marie Claire Wolf

      No you are not.

    • L. C. Spencer

      Nope indeedy. BUT – when dealing with the $cilons, it takes a rogue to catch a rogue. Hopefully the fact that he’s willing to walk right into court and say “yeah, these guys did awful things, I know cause I was right there being one of ’em” will impress the judge in a good way and not a bad way.

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Whatever he did, he did not do it to her. She is suing for what Miscavige and company have done to her. End of story.

    • richelieu jr

      Who is this apostate who dares to question the un questionable credentials of Marty Rathbun; Warrior for Truth, Justice, L Ron and his wife (if there’s money in it)?

      Forsooth and alackaday! Let this rapscallion be expelled from the circle forthwith, for none shall agree with him!

    • ThetaBara

      The twist is that Monique was never in, yet she is getting fair gamed anyhow. Makes a much stronger and less ambiguous case IMHO.

    • Eclipse-girl

      No there are several of us who see the irony. However, our goal is the dismantle the Co$ and hopefully put DM behind bars. If I had my way, I would use the reported billion in cash to repay those SO staff who made nothing and after 30 yrs were shoved out and left to die. Those victims deserve some cash for their retirement and health care.

      I totally agree with those that state Mosey was never in and should never have been a target.
      We do know that various investigative reporters were fair gamed.

    • renaud

      Everyone knows that. What is perturbing about suing for justice? I don’t give a fuck about Marty. I want the church to be dismantled. That’s what everyone is here for – to stop the COS.

      • Robert Eckert

        “Justice” would be that Rathbun is tormented just as he tormented others, including losing the love of his life (remember the Annie Tidman story).

        • renaud

          Yeah, I don’t care about justice for Marty. I just said that (did you read my post). I care about dismantling the COS. Why do you insist that I care about your “justice” for Marty. That’s your thing. NYPA

          • Robert Eckert

            No, that’s not my thing. I’m happy with how things are going. You are the one who asked what was perturbing about “suing for justice”, which is not how I would characterize this.

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      No. You are not ๐Ÿ˜‰

  • TheHoleDoesNotExist

    Hubbard’s Bridge is falling down, falling down, falling down,

    Hubbard’s bridge is falling down, and taking Davey with him….

    Now we just need to have the IRS investigated as to why they are revoking their tax exempt status. The Corporation structure is a scam. I think it’s time the IRS word cleared their “special” agreement. How many points one by one has Miscavige violated and thus null and voided it? Hello, IRS?

    http://youtu.be/j-zczJXSxnw

  • DamOTclese2

    “Every evening I would receive an intelligence briefing in writing from OSA. The briefing was usually several pages summarizing reports from private investigators and Scientologists serving as undercover spies watching and interacting with Scientology critics. The written briefing, contrary to established corporate policy, had no routing information on it. That is, the daily briefing had no indication who wrote the report or who it was directed to. If a report ever got out of the Church, it could not, on its face, be used to incriminate any of its author or recipients.”

    Still, it is always a good idea to grab the documentation and escape with all of the evidence one can carry regardless. It’s a shame that Rathbun and Rinder did not foresee the coming events, the criminal indictments, the civil lawsuits, the need to retain documentation that proves David’s core criminality to use as blackmail against the ringleader to fore-stall the “Fair Game” racketeering sure to follow.

    Always grab the doxs. Anyone who is still working for the criminal enterprise who is reading this blog, think carefully about what the future holds for you. If you have access to documentation that can help put these people in prison, help sue the crooks in civil court, or help protect yourselves from the crime syndicate’s expected Fair Game racketeering against you, grab everything you can, do it now while you have access.

    You are going to wish you had.

    • Eclipse-girl

      Rathbun escaped while in the Hole and no chance to grab docs.

      Rinder had been let out of the Hole to handle (?) John Sweeney in the UK, and blew while on release. He also did not have a chance to grab documents

      • DamOTclese2

        Yeah, that’s a real shame. Rathbun and Rinder were watched constantly toward the end, David may be crazy but he’s not *crazy*.

  • Alice Smith

    Can this lead to any criminal charges against Savage Miscavige?????????

    • renaud

      Yes

    • DamOTclese2

      Tony O. noted that Texas holds perjury as a $1000 fine and a possible 1 year in prison.

  • Alice Smith

    Any more proof needed that Scientology is not a religion, but a subversive and dangerous terrorist organization????

  • Sunny Sands

    Tent watcher pic, the back fabric panels are on. Wow, that thing is ugly. There are usually 2 SO lookouts posted a block away on the other side of the tent. Also saw a sea ogre on Ft. Harrison taking pics of the oncoming traffic. Not sure what benefit is there, but it’s a Thursday stat!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      What a lovely view for the tourists!

      • Sunny Sands

        Hehe, yeah, that is Court St. which goes directly to the beach.

        • Watergate

          Sunny, I love your tent reports. If you can estimate, about what proportion of that block area does Davey’s Big Tent cover?

          • Sunny Sands

            The tent covers the entire width of the block from Franklin St. to Court St. The length is just part of the block. The north entrance is almost to the sidewalk on Frankiln St. When you stop at the stop sign on Garden in front of it, you’re looking directly into this massive structure with lots of worker bees doing their thing. You have to stop there because of the stop sign, what can they say about it?

            • ThetaBara

              I’d like to take this opportunity to mention that “hiding” is -8 on the tone scale.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              This tent erection at the height of hurricane season to celebrate one of the all time hot air scams ever is becoming more and more symbolic, day by day.

              Miscavige’s many facades, faux titles, false entitements, empty buildings bought to impress No one, his numbers diving, and his defenses being dismantled, all brick by brick, like by lie … and all he can think to do is put up a Freak Show Tent on the coastline, guarding his last fortress with guard dogs to keep the process servers and perhaps the raiders at bay with one last barking order.

              I know there are similar characters and passages about their last days written in the history books, but I have to believe that Miscavige’s last barking days will have its own place in that library. Oh wait … a reckoning book. That would be novel!

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        I’d like to see pics or video of the guard dogs posing in front…and bark their warning

        • stateofcircle

          Haha bark tech.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          I am bringing the good camera this weekend for sure!
          I want some serious closeups!

        • Studious Judious

          It’s a real good thing I’m against animal cruelty… Just sayin’…

        • aquaclara

          No other tent “revival” has guard dogs….none I’ve ever heard of.
          Random thought- do you think there will be a cult-y sing-a-long?

          • sugarplumfairy
            • renaud

              Nice Vesace sweater, COB – or is that Hermes Paris?

            • Robert Eckert

              Hermรจs

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Such an ugly thing that poor jumper (sweater) is wearing………

            • Robert Eckert

              Ray Mithoff (the sweater guy) has been in the Hole for years. Supposedly one of his crimes was not getting the message that everyone but Davey was to be wearing monochrome for the big video.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I was actually thinking about what Miss Savage is wearing…….. Or is it a shirt?

              Regardless, I feel sorry for it ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Robert Eckert

              Davey’s very expensive whatever-it-is is also fairly hideous, but what Ray is wearing (note: that’s Shelly next to him) looks like a Christmas present from the aunt you hardly know:

              http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfK3ox_5nXU&feature=player_detailpage#t=160

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Ha! Nice analogy Robert. Made me snort with laughter into my coffee ๐Ÿ˜€

            • i-Betty

              Is that REALLY D’Doo Run Ron on a pope mobile at the end of the video?!

              Please say it ain’t so? Narcissism just ate itself.

            • i-Betty

              It’s very Versace circa 1989, daaahling!

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Hah, I would Love to hear an encore of “We Stand Tall”. If nothing else has gotten the Last Sheep to scramble for the Exits, surely this would do it. Oh wait, those choir members are all bitter and defrocked now. It will have to be “I Stand Tall”. No wait….let me rewrite that …
            “I Stand Trial” I am still way to happy as you can tell. And that tent fabric, at least on the sides, is way too thin for Florida.

            • Robert Eckert

              “The price of that freedom we all must pay– We Stand Trial….”

            • GlibWog

              hahhahahahhaha… OMG.. HOLE quit it now.. and I mean it..snort snickersnort

            • i-Betty

              Hahahahahahahahaaaa! I LOVE hearing how happy you are. I bet you’re literally shining today ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              To the tune of “We stand tall”:

              I got a subpoena the other day
              I dreaded to see what it had to say
              My freedom the price I have to pay
              From now on

              My wrists joined together, the cuffs are on
              A sob in my voice, a choking sound
              Echoed through the halls of justice

              We stand trial
              Yes we do

              We were forced to take the stand
              To defend the crimes we planned

              We stand trial
              It’s Karma bitch
              It’s just that way

              We stand trial
              It never stops
              The case goes on

              We stand trial

              Knowing the truth will con-vict me
              And take me from here to solitary
              I tell lies I hope they never see

              We stand Trial

              And my little cell is secure
              For the punishment I endure

              We stand trial
              It’s Karma bitch
              It’s just that way

              Forever fucked
              We’ll die in jail

              We stand trial
              (we stand trial)
              It’s Karma bitch
              It’s just that way

              Hey bubba stop, hey bubba stop!
              Hey bubba I stood trial
              (OHHHH YES!)

              (Everybody)
              We stand trial
              I’m Karma’s bitch
              Can’t get away

              We stand trial
              I’m throwing up
              it hurts so bad

              We stand trial
              That Karma bitch
              She makes me pay!

              Hey bubba stop!, Hey bubba STOP!
              Hey bubba let me run away

              (Woah Woah WOAH!)
              I turn my back, That’s all it takes

              We stand trial
              It never stops
              The way we pay!

              etc., etc.,

            • Kitz

              Nicely done! Only missing piece I see is about general pop, and feet not hitting the floor…. *snerk* ๐Ÿ˜‰

          • Observer

            Sure there will!

            Kumbayah, L. Ron, kumbayah
            Kumbayah, L. Ron, kumbayah
            Kumbayah, L. Ron, kumbayah
            L. Ron, kumbayah

            Someone’s regging, Ron
            Kumbayah
            Someone’s blowing, Ron
            Kumbayah
            Freewinds sinking, Ron
            Kumbayah
            L. Ron, kumbayah

            Super powers, Ron
            Kumbayah
            Whales suing, Ron
            Kumbayah
            Miscavige squirreling, Ron
            Kumbayah
            L. Ron, kumbayah

            • Casabeca

              I so love you Observer!

            • i-Betty

              Hur hurring ๐Ÿ˜›

            • GlibWog

              OMG good one OBS

          • Robert Eckert

            Of course, singing like a beluga whale raped by the Eighties.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZd7MzF1RlA

            • aquaclara

              this will do quite nicely.

          • MissCandle

            They could have a “song of invitation” where people (aka “marks”) can come forward up the aisles to the front stage and publicly announce their commitment to S-Lying-Tology and either sign their billion year contracts or make big enough contributions to be recognized as {humanitarians}.

          • Studious Judious

            Songs I would sing if I had a band called the Bitter DA’s:
            Volcano – Jimmy Buffet
            Take the Money and Run – Steve Miller Band
            Ship of Fools – Grateful Dead

            And many more!

            • i-Betty

              Heehee ๐Ÿ˜€

          • i-Betty

            And cult bonfire and sausages! Or ‘bangers’, as we like to call them in Blighty.

            And a cult folk guitarist!

      • DamOTclese2

        Clearwater does not have tourists any more, the Scientology goons walking around dazed and wearing little toy sailor outfits has put a stop to that.

    • Studious Judious

      I just had a mental image picture of the Superdome after Katrina.

      • Sunny Sands

        TD 7 has been upgraded and named Gabrielle. TD 12 is here.

        • Mark

          On the horizon, a cloud no bigger than a man’s fist…

        • sugarplumfairy

          Like the archangel..

    • BosonStark

      All that just so people won’t ask about the oiliness table or notice their cult is collapsing.

    • BananaSplits8

      I really, really hope the clams start wondering why it’s always the same faces who show up at these supposed unprecedented expansion events.

    • Observer

      I just want one mighty gust of wind to carry that thing away and dump it far out in the ocean (with one stop to snag it on and topple the Scn cross on the Sooper Power building). Is that too much to ask?

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        What? You want it to snag on and topple that Big Ol Sciloon cross?
        Do you know much Luis Garcia had to pay for that thing?

        • Observer

          It’s okay–they regged the cost of the cross from 50 other people.

      • Captain Howdy

        Xenu forbid something like this accidentally happens to the ruininess runt. it would be freaking biblical.

        • DamOTclese2

          The Omen reference for the win!

    • Mark

      I see the Supah Meagah Tentorama has hot-air release-vents at the top. Considering the guff soon to be excreted inside, it’s no surprise.

      So mote it be:

      • GlibWog

        hahahhaha.. I do so love your sense of humor Mark..haha

      • i-Betty

        Wonderfully bonkers ๐Ÿ˜€

    • aquaclara

      22 billion points to you for this lively on-the-spot coverage of THE CIRCUS IS COMING TO TOWN. I am enthralled…..truly, this all makes me smile that it is out in the open, with pictures, and a fearless photog. When would that have happened even just five years ago?

    • Still_On_Your_Side

      Any kid seeing this is going to ask when they can go see the clowns!

    • junojones

      I just love the tent. Putting up something so huge but flimsy in FL hurricane season has something of the hubris that launched the Titanic while ice floe season was still on.

      It it evil for me to want to see that fucking thing ripped to shreds and dangling from a twisted steel structure? Made for Albions’ peaceful green fields, it looks to be a very bad match-up for FL in the autumn.

      • mirele

        If a hurricane blows through, they’re going to find pieces of that tent floating in Tampa Bay.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Actually, the Gulf. Oh, maybe the Bay too. And insurance would most likely be covered by the tent company I would think. They actually make hurricane proof up to certain winds tents, but those are newer and hard surface roofs. Actually, hurricane proof is an oxymoron; no such thing. Most claims like that have fine print (up to _____ mph winds). 120 to 1500 mph is an average on those disclaimers down here.

          • Robert Eckert

            “insurance would most likely be covered by the tent company I would think” IAS owns it.

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              The tent company is installing it. They manufacture, rent, sell and install. I don’t think the permits would be issued without insurance.

              Hey wait a sec: What happened to the Clearwater Mayor’s permit checklist? It was to be issued to DM by now or the 6th? hmmm

              Guess we’ll just have to stay tuned….

            • Sunny Sands

              It was supposed to be Tues. 9/3. I e-mailed the reporter Mr. Frago about a follow-up story. He wrote me back “I’ll continue to follow the issue. Thanks for your message.”. Someone from another board said they would stop by city hall today and ask about it, haven’t heard about it yet.

            • GlibWog

              Sunny You are crackin me up..ha Good for you! Thank you from all of us.

      • Valkov

        Miscavige may be hoping a hurricane tears up the Big Tent, this will enable him to cancel any subsequent events and would offer the perfect excuse to order the IAS and “all hands” go into emergency overdrive crush regging to compensate for the damage and “make things go right”.

        • mirele

          Wonder if he’s got insurance on the tent, or is self-insured?

      • MissCandle

        Too many Bunkerites live in Florida and would be also be shredded if Shortie’s tent is shredded.

      • GlibWog

        Yes.. Evil ( and we love it..) ha

    • nottrue

      Hey DM do you need a elephant with super powers to go with your cool tent

      • GlibWog

        not true..hahahha… I love it.. Funny.

    • Missionary Kid

      Can you, or anyone else, tell me if the tent is on a slab? If it is, that will provide more of an anchor and enable it to withstand winds a bit better.

      • Sunny Sands

        I don’t think it is. Here is a pic taken by Tampa Bay Times. Maybe you can tell from it.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Do none of the Sciloons have a problem with the fact that the Stupor Powerz! (TM) building opening isn’t being held, y’know, in the Stupor Powerz! (TM) building itself? You’d think they would want to get a look at what all the money has been going towards on it’s Grand Opening………………

          • Mark

            Could it be – holds breath – that it’s STILL NOT FINISHED?!?! (buggering things up being par for the course with anything Jonah Miscavige touches).

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              No. Never. How dare you even think such a thing Mark!

              ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Missionary Kid

          Thanks.

          I hadn’t thought about it, but if it was a parking lot before, the structure could easily be mounted to the concrete. The only problem is, even if they attach it to the concrete, there’s no footings and rebar to anchor it down substantially. The usual practice is to drill holes in the concrete and set anchors in the concrete with epoxy. That’s fairly strong, but if they didn’t pour footings, that’s only 6″ of concrete, which isn’t much for the forces of a wind from a good microburst or hurricane generated by a structure the size of the tent.

          There has to be some engineering data somewhere that gives the values of winds the structure can withstand, and I’m sure that the tent itself can take a lot more than one built out of canvas, but the amount of pressure and lift on a structure like that is TREMENDOUS, and the stresses go up with the square of the wind velocity.

          IMO, a structure like that is surprisingly strong, but once one panel blows out, the whole thing will come apart. It can probably take a lot of wind, but there’s debris that’s thrown around in wind that can damage it, and a lot of the strength is in the metal skin.

          I’m not an engineer, so that’s just an eyeball estimate. A little knowledge is a dangerous thing, and I’m real dangerous.

          • GlibWog

            Kid.. My hubby asked me the same question..

            We had a small ( comparably ) tent for a party once.. Held maybe 100 people and he really, really had to reinforce it in the manner in which you described.

            • Missionary Kid

              What was the size of your tent? Did you have just chairs, but also chairs and tables?

            • GlibWog

              I forget now Kid..my hubby is sound asleep..

              Yes..We had Chairs and Tables..( it was years ago..)

            • GlibWog

              My answer didn’t come up yet kid..weird..( Disq)

              Hubby was asleep when I answered you… but woke up enough to tell me it was like

              40′ x 60 ‘ and yes chairs and tables.. It was a wedding setting.. with like a dance floor and buffet table.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Someone told John Travolta they’re pitching a tent in Clearwater and he’s like, “I’m on my way, don’t start without me!”

      • i-Betty

        I shouldn’t snigger…. ๐Ÿ˜›

        • GlibWog

          I don’t know if I get it Betty…hahahhaha

          It has to do with an erection.. but I don’t get the tent part..

          OK .. I think I get it.. laying on back.. cloth on lap.. erection tent..

          IS that it? Good Lord

          • i-Betty

            Lol, YES! ๐Ÿ˜€

            • GlibWog

              Ohhh Betty I have a feeling we are going to hear ” Tent” humor for a long, long time around here. ( Well as long as the Trial Lasts..hahaha)

    • DamOTclese2

      So the crime syndicate’s ringleaders don’t want people to see that most of the seats are empty.

    • GlibWog

      Thanks Sunny!… OK.. This is FUGLY

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Thanks, Sunny!

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    I finally finished reading “Memoirs of a Scientology Warrior: Part deux”,…Otherwise known as the “affidavit of Mark Rathbun.

    He really opened himself up with the Lisa McPherson stuff.
    Very, very Interesting.

  • Sherbet

    Regardless of how effective Monique’s suit is, or how helpful Marty’s affidavit will be, the one thing that keeps me smiling is this: Scientology finally is going to learn they just can’t get away with crap like this anymore — like sticking cameras into faces and taping conversations and lying and spying and telling neighbors and co-workers that THAT PERSON is a sexual deviant or felon. Oh, the cult is a bunch of slow learners, but it’s coming, and it’s called comeuppance, karma, turnabout. You can’t play vindictive — if high tech — junior high games just because someone disagrees with you. What do the kiddies say? Scientology, you’ve been pwned, and it’s about time.

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      You forgot “sending women dildos”, Sherb.

      “Don’t Forget the Dildo” doesn’t have quite the same ring as “Don’t Forget the Alamo”, but I like it.

    • ze moo

      Sherbert, most of the actions you have called out are legal. The fine line between harassment and ‘proper exercise of civil rights’ will be the subject of this trial. Will CO$ learn from this?? No, ‘fair game’ and just being an ass are built into Hubbtardology. No matter how Monique’s suit ends up, others are still going to get the Lroon treatment. With perhaps 3 billion in assets, it is going take a long time to grind the clamdom down. But the worm has turned, laugh at the ‘article’ I reference below and see how times have changed.

      http://www.celebdirtylaundry.com/2013/brad-pitt-angelina-jolie-relationship-being-ripped-apart-by-scientology-0905/

      I more I see how CO$ works, the more I think David Miscavige is Eric Cartman without Cartman’s {endearing qualities}.

      • Missionary Kid

        He’s the right size of mind and body.

      • Sherbet

        Well, darn it, ze moo, you sure rained on my parade. I’m fairly slow to jump on any bandwagon, but I was getting a lot of encouragement from the latest turn of events.

  • monkeyknickers

    Shit! I forgot it was thursday . . .

    Beautiful much missed and loved SO members,

    Your family misses you.

    And you don’t have to do this anymore, this heart-stopping push for stats.

    Guess what? They are meaningless.

    And it’s GOOD to doubt.

    Because there are so many people out here that want you. And we don’t require you to live in a shithole, manhandle people for money over and OVER when you KNOW it is HURTING them, or ever eat rice and beans again.

    You can leave. Nothing bad happens. You get your life back. And your family. And you never have to have your i/c screaming at you for bullshit ever again. For real.

    Sincerely,

    Monkey.

    • ThetaBara

      And freeloader debt is not legal!

      Well said, Monkey.

      • monkeyknickers

        RIGHT. God I forgot that. So much bullshit to reference!

    • Eclipse-girl

      There are people who will help you. I know it is scary at first to leave what you know. But you know how you have been hurt / damaged and possibly much worse by staying in. Please take that step. You won’t regret it.

    • Sidney18511

      That was SO heartfelt monkey! To any and all still-in lurkers….there are thousands of us out here who just want to see you get your lives back and if you still want auditing there is TONS of it outside of the .COS. Take the leap. There are people who are waiting to catch you.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Yes, yes, and yes.

      Also, your doubts are OK. Follow them to a logical conclusion.

  • CraftLass

    Semi-random Thursday-related question that just popped into my head: Is the 2 pm stat deadline local or coordinated across time zones?

    • Ruby

      local

      • CraftLass

        Thank you!

        • Robert Eckert

          Debbie Downer must be in Florida, as she stopped the down-arrow tek at 2PM EST.

          • CraftLass

            Hahahaha, it’s like you’re reading my mind! That’s exactly what made me want confirmation. ๐Ÿ˜€

            • Observer

              I wonder how that stat is weighted. And what would they call it? I doubt “down arrows on Tony Ortega’s blog” would be grandiose enough. Shattering Blows Delivered to Merchants of Chaos? Wogs Confronted and Shattered? Squirrels Screaming? Entheta Crushed?

            • TheHoleDoesNotExist

              Too busy getting the full rundown of stats, which includes “inches” of good press or bad. But here’s a summary:

              https://whyweprotest.net/community/threads/osa-stats-dox.5363/

            • CraftLass

              Now I really want to use “Shattering Blows Delivered to Merchants of Chaos” as an album title. ๐Ÿ˜€ Absolutely delicious wording, Observer!

              What I really don’t get is what anyone might think they are accomplishing. Heck, I wouldn’t even notice downvotes if it didn’t come up as a topic in the comments. lol Or upvotes, for that matter.

              Oh, wait, crap – there I go again with that reason and logic stuff that never applies here. We need a logic-check room by the Bunker entrance.

            • Observer

              I guess they think that we’ll crumble as fast as they do when faced with even the feeblest of opposition.

            • Sidney18511

              They believe that if someone drops by the bunker and sees down votes on the posts that they will think “hmmmm…..there are people that do not agree with this so maybe it’s NOT true and poor scientology IS being attacked by anti-religious bigots after all”

            • Observer

              That makes a sad kind of sense.

            • Robert Eckert

              Davey Downboy on the other hand has been giving out a few scattered arrows, doubling on some of Debbie’s auto-down-arrows. Davey, unlike Debbie, actually seems to read the posts and hit the ones he especially dislikes.

  • joan nieman

    Awesome report by Marty Rathburn. He has left”..no stone unturned”. I can hardly wait for the court results…..again..awesome!!

  • Whoknew

    So much to catch up on. Just have to say I’m watching the SP awards and Tony’s made me teary. What a special and deserving guy! Thanks for what you do.

  • Theo Sismanides

    Marty makes the confession of his life and… the lifetimes to come. As I was reading the affidavit, which is a catapult against Miscavige, I realised not only that Marty has been an accomplish to the very coup d’ etat of RTC and Scientology that Miscavige perpetrated but that Marty was/is the one person who could blow the cover of Miscavige and he carried that all along inside him after he left.

    It’s outrageous that no Scientology officers knew Miscavige was running OSA all the time. Marty and Mike Rinder have a role in this. An though it’s understood up to a point why they didn’t talk when they left, at least now Marty makes a real effort to expose Miscavige. This is good.

    Now, if Marty will go for the money he will be toast… I think his only salvation is to turn Miscavige’s head to the Scientologists.

    I have suffered like many others from Miscavige’s off policy and devilish tactics. Marty knew all along and was an accomplish. It’s his chance to come clean.

    • Studious Judious

      Because I know English is not your first language I would kindly like to make a correction. When you say accomplish, you probably mean accomplice. They have different meanings.

      I believe that all Scientology officers know Miscavige is running OSA. Miscavige runs all of Scientology and all Scientologists know this.

      It’s the legal system that Miscavige is trying to fool.

      • Theo Sismanides

        Thank you Studious Judious… sure… my mistake there.

        As to all Scientology officers knowing Miscavige IS running OSA, yes, now, this is true. But if you read the affidavit you will see this was hidden in the beginning.

        Hubbard, no matter what people say, had established some organisation. It was not supposed to be “the orders of one man”. We had policy and lines and command channels and whole organisations.

        Miscavige couldn’t just bypass them from the beginning. Now, yes, he has bulldozed the whole structure of Scientology, all the policy, lines, terminals… everything.

        Of course he is trying to fool the legal system. But still the people who so dedicatedly served in the Sea Org and on staff we have the first say on this, IMHO. Miscavige has violated all of Scientology policy and even usurped the Power by a coup d’ etat. The very person who was with him states that now in 2013 in an affidavit. This is big on all aspects.

        And of course the details on the Lisa McPherson’s case and what was Miscavige’s “handling”…

        On behalf of what I have come to know from my Scientology career, I express my sorrow to the family and a big I AM SORRY to all the people who got affected by this. This is outrageous and I am so ashamed of it. I still believe there would be ways to come to terms with her family. But Scientology under Miscavige would never do that.

        • Studious Judious

          So, when LRH was alive, if he issued an order, would some Scientologists ignore that order because he was not officially in charge?

          • Theo Sismanides

            LRH had created an Administrative system to protect Scientology and Scientologists. Though he many times erred in administration, it was his baby and he cherished it. He wrote hundreds of policy letters to make it strong. Only a fool would undo his own system. LRH was very cautious not to look stupid by undoing his system. He knew much better than Miscavige.

            • Studious Judious

              I did not ask whether LRH would or would not undo his Administrative system.

              I asked if Scientologists would disobey a direct order from LRH because he was not in charge.

            • Theo Sismanides

              you didn’t get me. LRH would NOT issue direct orders bypassing the organizational structure and terminal in charge. He might do that in a case of emergency in which case, to answer your questions, no Scientologists would not disobey him because he was not in charge. But THAT would be an emergency or a danger condition. LRH has written up such conditions and what should be done.

              Emergencies, though. Miscavige has turned the whole Standard Admin system into a mad circus.

            • Studious Judious

              Thanks for the answer Theo. You seem like a nice person. Where would you say that you were along the Bridge to Total Freedom?

            • Watergate

              Trying to find it.

            • Theo Sismanides

              Bridges and Charts sometimes are for the broad public and the numbers. Sometimes they are done erroneously and no honest results are gotten.

              However, one can attain higher awareness through other things aside from the actual Bridge and even aside from Scientology. Scientology is just a workable path.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Anyone trying to sell you a bridge should be looked at with suspicion

            • Robert Eckert

              Particularly when their logo is a double-cross.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Bullshit Theo. I was working in Mission Operations Pac Move, project 23, Mission Signs Exterior in 1977 under Mission 1st, Patti LaMarr, Mission 2nd, Doug Harlan. I was Mission 3rd. As part of that project, Hubbard issued direct orders, in his handwriting, written on blue flimsy paper in blue ink. They were signed by Hubbard. This was no emergency. This was no special case. This was him micromanaging the pedestrian design efforts of a team far removed from him in both space and levels of command. Our CSW’s for design and color choices went up to him and were approved by him or disapproved by him. This was 1977. Hubbard gave our Mission a highly commended for our work on the projects. I saw it, I read it. And David Miscavige ordered me to cut any reference to Hubbard and his orders from those sheets of blue paper using a razor blade. You don’t know what you speak. Hubbard went directly to anyone at any level of the organization if he felt like it.

              It was always, ALWAYS “standard admin” that applied to everyone else but Hubbard. It kept people in line, but he didn’t care to follow his own policy when it suited him.

            • Kitz

              Funny…. This isn’t the first time we’ve chatted about something, and then later it comes up on this blog. ๐Ÿ™‚

              I hope that more comes out because of this case. Hopefully those who have the information are far enough in their own recovery that they can speak about it. We all heal in different ways, and at different timelines.

            • Michael Leonard Tilse

              Yep. I hope so too. Theo is a hard case, he’s holding on for dear life.

              (p.s.: wait till you read the song I wrote for THDNE…)

            • Kitz

              I’ve noticed that with him before.

              Uh oh…. Should I be scared? (Or will it be scarred???) *wanders off to try and find it*

            • Theo Sismanides

              I hear you and thank you for this. I couldn’t doubt your personal experience and data.

              However, I don’t think that Hubbard made a wreck of all his Admin tech and organisational policies all over the place like DM does.

              if he did he would put the whole organisation at risk which is what is happening now with Miscavige.

        • Sidney18511

          Theo, I know that today’s information is a shock to you, but if you go back to several of Marty’s blog postings he himself, said that DM was a direct product of LRH. They are almost one and the same. The difference? LRH is dead.

          • Theo Sismanides

            I have news for you: You are so stuck on bodies that when we talk about L. Ron Hubbard your mind goes to the man… start looking at some books. You may find there the L. Ron Hubbard.
            P.S. And I don’t care about others opinions if it’s just opinions. I look at facts. He said… she said… oh those mortals… how badly they want to belieeeeeve!

            • Espiando

              Yeah, I am looking for L. Ron Hubbard in his books. Dianetics tells me that he was, at best, really hung up on women and, at worst, a complete misogynist who was retrograde even for his time. Science of Survival tells me that he was a homophobe. All About Radiation tells me he was ignorant of physics. History of Man tells me he was ignorant of paleontology. Mission Into Time tells me he was ignorant of archaeology. Yeah, what a nice picture of Hubbard his books paint.

            • Suppressive Tomato

              One of my favorite parts of “The Problems of Work” basically states (I’m paraphrasing and interpreting and I know those are both High Crimes) that work is only good for the sake of having a purpose, and that drawing a pay check is really not very important, because who needs to eat or provide shelter for themselves? And this philosophy explains an awful lot about Sea Org and staff pay and food quality. Those things really aren’t important, as long as you have a “purpose”. Perhaps in a few hundred years, someone who stumbles upon Hubbard’s writing will mistake it for a satire of 1950’s American corporate culture.

    • sizzle8

      Some of this has been known for a while.
      Take a look at this affidavit from Vicki Aznaran,

      http://www.xenu-directory.net/documents/aznaran19940307.html

      • Theo Sismanides

        I will take a look at this. Got to go for a bit… thanks

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        Thanks much for linking this. Just began rereading to get my who’s on first names and ranks and posts sorted out. Oh my, for those who feel too too sad for Shelly Miscavige, you might not so much when she talks so coldly about her mother’s “apparent” suicide right after she died because she was a “squirrel”. Icey. But here’s another good part of the affi:

        “When David Miscavige was one of the targets of an IRS CID investigation (there were several individuals targeted), he expressed great concern over having to go to jail. Due to his diminutive size, he was very concerned that he would be sexually harassed while in a jail with common criminals.” At this time he devised several schemes to flee the country should the IRS decide to make arrests. Avoiding service
        of process is a tactic that Miscavige is well acquainted with.”

        Yes, Vicki most likely should be checking out gas caps and locking mail boxes, turning off any GPS, adding more surveillance cameras? and training the dogs. Or has she been stalked and spied on all these years as well? She could be one mighty blow. Probably Bill Franks as well.

        If ANY of these upper level executives would have told the rest of us what was really going on, we All would have ran out the door, forever. They all Knew this and that is why they didn’t.

    • Guest

      Please don’t start with the “off policy” nonsense.

      You should know better.

      There’s Green on White found in the Green volumes, and then there’s confidential Green on White not in the Green volumes, then there are confidential LRH instructions that trump both.

      Scientology has always been run as a criminal conspiracy.

      Policy smolicy.

      • Theo Sismanides

        In which organisation did you serve? You probably know nothing about “The Hidden Data line” policies of Hubbard or Verbal Tech checklist. You just assume that Hubbard had “double books”. Though he may have had “double books” and may have issued orders and advices those orders and advices per his Organisational Policies were not Policy.

        But as most people want to criticise than to have had the experience and then talk, I would like to know what kind of experience did you have of Scientology Organisational Policy?

        • Norwood Partz

          Not only were there “double books,” and not only was there a LRH hidden data line (I know, I know, “policy” said there was no hidden data line, etc.), Hubbard also had a hidden agenda.

          Policy served a number of functions. It functioned for the rank and file as “policy,” but it also served, at times, as COVER.

          For example, in 1968, Hubbard issued “policy” that cancelled Fair Game. Do you really think that Fair Game was cancelled in 1968?

          • Theo Sismanides

            Sure it also served as Cover. This is a war in case you haven’t understood it. You don’t always play by the(ir) rules.

            You people think that Scientology is bad? Go look at the world’s governments and do something about THEM !!! Give me a break. Scientology is one movement which has helped and will help Man. The Church is going nuts but still delivering some good products. OK. You can’t see all things as equal.

            But I forget. The ability to differentiate and observe is not so common amongst the people these days.

            • Espiando

              Good products like what, Theo? The Tone Scale as the basis for communication? You know, the one that says that I’m permanently at 1.1 and should therefore be “eliminated, quietly and without sorrow”? The Purif, which can cause permanent damage to your liver and other vital organs? Sec checking when you play with your wee-wee?

              Name one good product, Theo. One good product. That’s not much to ask.

            • Suppressive Tomato

              ARC triangle is not bad, but it’s not that inventive or original, either.

            • Espiando

              Except that Hubtard had to redefine “affinity” and “reality” to make it work.

            • ThetaBara

              Yeah, especially “reality.”

            • Robert Eckert

              And “communication”

            • Espiando

              If you include the ashtrays and walls, yeah, that too.

            • Theo Sismanides

              I delivered a touch assist to my mom and her back got better today. Honest to God… I can understand some people have not had any wins from Scientology. There are Indies now, go find one, he/she can help people. Try it for yourself. And no sec checks, lol.

            • Espiando

              So, in other words, laying on of hands. Something that the Bible claims was given to the Apostles after the Holy Spirit entered them on Pentecost. A true Scientology original there, Theo.

            • Theo Sismanides

              Have you done it on anyone? It’s fun. If you don’t know how to do it, it’s easy. I don’t care about the origins and historical facts and data. I care that I can assist a person in pain sometimes (not always).

            • Anonymookme

              Theo, I feel so, so sorry for you

            • Guest

              Theo, yes, some things is Scientology can be beneficial but, over all, Hubbard’s Scientology is a trap.

              Read Brian Ambry’s ‘Sly and Tall Edgy Lurks’, or his ‘Brainwashing Manual Parallels in Scientology’ e-book, or his Scientological Onion. It will get you started.

            • Theo Sismanides

              I will look it up but I am not willing to buy such stuff. I know what I know and I just visit here to talk to people and get some exchange of information and be decent. Anyway, thanks.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Reiki can do a far better job than a “touch assist”
              As can acupuncture, and having your chakras aligned and clear. Meditation is better for you than being on the soup cans of a skin galvanometer (which will only tell you how sweaty your hand palms are)

            • Theo Sismanides

              good. are you practising Reiki or some other practice? Can you deliver whatever assists? Go and do it. It’s good. Instead of having people on medication all the time. I chose another path and I speak about that which I know.

            • Norwood Partz

              Yes, we Wogs don’t differentiate well. Thank goodness LRH and you are there to help us.

            • Theo Sismanides

              I didn’t say that. I said people. Wogs is another thing. We have gone over this before here, extensively. And I am not Fair Gaming anyone as you can see. I just stop communicating if I don’t like the person. Going to bed now… thanks anyway. Goodnight.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Hubtard also had a first wife. That he kept telling people he didn’t.

            Theo is just a moron.

        • sizzle8

          Actually Theo, there has been a hidden data line in place for decades. LRH issued many confidential advices and orders that were not allowed to be broadly seen. And many of these instructions directly contradicted policy in the Admin Vols.

          • Theo Sismanides

            Give me examples not just generalities. When I was told about confidential advices against the Translations HCOBs I rebelled. No one rebelled. They just sat there watching me being penalised. But you know what? I had every right to do it and my conscience is clean.

            So give me specifics where LRH nullified HCOBs and HCOPLs in order to implement his confidential advices and orders. Sometimes there Emergencies, situations that need immediate handling. In such a case you might do something which is not “per policy 100%”. Then go back to normal and modify policy with that specific situation taken care now by policy. If we are talking about such things, ok, it can happen.

            But please give examples. In any case I am going to bed soon. I am not willing to keep on pounding here. I just had a win like you guys did, but from another, a totally other, side and aspect. I care about what Marty is gonna do. If he is gonna do the right thing. Nail DM and leave it there.

    • Sidney18511

      TOAST??? He will be RICH Theo! Rich! SET FOR LIFE! He will disappear into the sunset. In his beautiful oceanfront home. And he will live like a king. He will close his blog quietly and without sorrow. And maybe, like Debbie Cook, he will post pictures occasionally.

      Oh and by the by Theo…..we here at the bunker were very well aware that Marty and mike were involved up to their eyeballs. Now YOU know the truth too.

      • Theo Sismanides

        Oh, you mortals… you never learn… what you really need is to Belieeeeve…

        I hope the Holy Spirit one day will lighten up your universe! Money… pffff… who cares about money? Just make money baby… don’t sit on your butt, waiting to be compensated for all the dirty work you did.

        I may know now the truth but that is a… minor truth. I cared to learn higher truths which mortals will have to learn through decades and decades!

        • Anonymookme

          “Oh, you mortals…..”. Um, Theo, I have some bad news for you. Someday you’re going to die.
          Even with all of your silly, puffed up, Sooper Powerz and OT abilities, you are just another one of us “mortals”.
          Your deity, L Loon Hubtard really fucked you up, dude.

          • Theo Sismanides

            Mortals… pffff….

        • Whoknew

          What Holy Spirit? You aren’t allowed to believe in that. Confusing.

          • Theo Sismanides

            It was ironical, although I have to admit that maybe I know far more about the Holy Spirit than some “Christians”. Not to sound pompous but i do believe in Spirit… I don’t know about a Holy one but I guess there is some path there for enlightment. In any case I am not against the spirituality of others, i do respect it.

    • ze moo

      Only the active scientologists can claim Miscaviges head, and there is no known movement inside of the scam that is trying to do that. Davey is like a mafia don, only an indictment or death can depose him.

      • Theo Sismanides

        And why is that, please? There are active Scientologists outside the church too. Boooong!

        • media_lush

          Theo, you’ve been eating your own poo again haven’t you?

          • Theo Sismanides

            You are just too ridiculous to understand anything about life. Is mockery just the way of life for you? You are so lost in your puzzled viewpoint that you cannot utter any sentient words.

            But, guys, this issue is not for you and your mockeries. There are people who have put a big part of themselves in Scientology, so it’s for them. Not for you. You may critique and mock all you want. That does not make you any better. So, keep up the smart remarks. But If you continue like that there is not going to be any communication between you and me. Meaning, you will have nooooo attention from me. Which will be fine for both of us I guess.

            • media_lush

              …. it’s just that you can’t help but speak total shit all the time, just sayin’

            • Theo Sismanides

              That’s it! BANNEEEEEED! In any case I am going to bed so i don’t have to have all this shitty-shit-oh-shit conversations.

            • Mark

              Kali nikhta, Theo.

            • Theo Sismanides

              ฮ•ฯ…ฯ‡ฮฑฯฮนฯƒฯ„ฯŽ Mark. ฮšฮฑฮปฮทฮฝฯฯ‡ฯ„ฮฑ for me then. I know, it should be rather early in the Western Hemisphere!

            • Robert Eckert

              ฮšฮฑฮบฮทฮฝฯ…ฯ‡ฯ„ฮฑ, ฮ˜ฮตฮฟ

            • Theo Sismanides

              ฯ‡ฮฑฯ‡ฮฑฯ‡ฮฑ ฮšฮฑฮบฮฎ ฮฝฯฯ‡ฯ„ฮฑ; ok whatever… I have a very goodnight’s sleep though… maybe a typo… And my real name in Greek is ฮ˜ฮฟฮดฯ‰ฯฮฎ(s), when one addresses me he/she would call me ฮ˜ฮฟฮดฯ‰ฯฮฎ (Thodori, affirmative case) whereas the nominative case is Thodoris with an S. ฮ˜ฮตฮฟ means God in Greek. ฮ˜ฮตฯŒฯ‚… anyway thanks.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              This idiot again. What makes you think we want to have any attention from you? I think a lot of us would rather you just jumped off a bridge, or step in front of a bus. Or something like that.

              I personally think he’s a lonely lil’ troll that loves the attention we DO give him……….

              So, we should NOT FEED THE TROLL ๐Ÿ˜€

            • Theo Sismanides

              I have lot of discussions and lots of friends here and we can oppose each other without insults. Something which is beyond your limited communication skills.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I’m not the one telling people they are too ridiculous to understand life Theo.

            • Theo Sismanides

              you are not even trying to tell them to understand it and you ridicule those who do try to tell them… that’s what happens.

              what’s wrong with ARC? (=understanding), why shouldn’t people get to know about ARC breaks and use them in everyday life. I mean, it’s great to have fun but when the problems arrive who’s gonna help the person but himself? At that point he/she depends on what they know about life.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              If someone needs help understanding something, I’ll do my best to research it and give them a verifiable answer with scientific means.

              Hubbard never once used actual scientific testing. He claimed many things that were simply lies.He thought you could take vitamins to ward off radiation poisoning. Tell me that isn’t the height of stupidity.

              He also lied about his past, and having a first wife and child.

              So no, I don’t believe a single thing he ever said. He was a lunatic.

              Until you wake up and realise that he was a liar, you simply feed that idiotic-ness. Scientology is a scam, always was a scam, and always will be a scam.

            • Theo Sismanides

              you just do an A=A=A as we call it. That’s Anything = Anything = Anything. That’s identification thinking. I don’t have the time to process everyone with that kind of thinking here and who even, having read or done tidbits, want to just criticise. I don’t have to do that.

              You claim “scientific testings”. You cannot see the thousands of people who put themselves to this testing. Even people who have left the church (which obviously has done a lot of harm and on purpose, since it’s been taken by the Illuminati and the Globalists who want to control it and deliver as a product what they want, that is, Robots) even many of those people say it openly that Scientology (not the church) works for them. No matter how many “scientific” testings you do, the proof of the pudding is in the eating. No matter how many natter or try to criticise Scientology is the most discussed (compared to its size) religion and philosophy on the net.

              People will start seeing its use and will start using things out of it. Even out of idiotic-ness (that -ness, suffix, reminds me of someone who used to create nouns from adjectives like that, hahaha!)

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              You are truly cracked in the head. I really struggle to think of a more warped thought process than yours, and that includes anything Hubtard came up with. Which really is saying something.

              You need help. Maybe psychiatric help, but I’m almost certain you think they’re all out to get Scamotology and the rest of the world, but you really do need it.

            • Theo Sismanides

              All your evaluations and invalidations won’t cut it. Evaluate and invalidate all you want. You can’t change anything by that. Life will teach you in time about those things since you don’t want to learn from reliable sources.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Won’t cut what? The bullshit you keep spewing? Or the fact that you can’t seem to come to grips with real life?

              Go camping man. Spend some time with nature, and clear your mind of this crap. Then see how you think about life. I would much rather be able to actually live in the forest, if I weren’t diabetic and have a need for daily insulin.

            • Theo Sismanides

              I am sorry to hear you are diabetic and are in daily need of insulin. We can keep talking and I think it’s gonna come out alright. Even if we disagree. I wouldn’t want to impose my views on you, nor you on me. I would rather we talk and exchange ideas in a more philosophic way. There is no need for any other stuff! OK, we disagree. So what? We can still communicate. Take care.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              That’s fair enough.

            • Robert Eckert

              The statement was about who can get rid of Miscavige. You indies have no ability whatsoever to do that.

            • Theo Sismanides

              I know and this is true. Indies are completely off…. I am sorry to say but they are. No one shows up here (rarely someone does, lol) to discuss…. and give some other perspective. Marty is in a position now where he could do something about it. I hope he sees that and does this whole thing for the greatest good not just for the Benjamin’s.

  • DamOTclese2

    I would say that Marty Rathbun’s affidavit is an excellent “amends project” for what he did as head ringleader of Scientology for 22 years. His affidavit is very useful.

    • Studious Judious

      That’s a nice way of putting it.

      • DamOTclese2

        Yeah. Well, I see other people have mentioned that they would like to see Marty apologize for what he did to Gerry Armstrong. I would love to see a heart-felt apology also.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Baby steps, says the guy in this corner. But then, I can be harsh..

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      He has a lot of apologising to go yet, and he needs it to be heartfelt. Until I see video of him apologising to Lisa McPherson’s family for what happened to her, this means nothing. It’s his own wife that got harassed because of the shit he and Miscavige pulled together, so you really could look at it being his fault in the first place that Mosey went through all of this.

      • renaud

        “He has a lot of apologising to go yet, and he needs it to be heartfelt.”

        Will you please stop posting this shit again and again.. It get’s so fucking repetitive. Please

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          Huh? I believe that’s only the first, maybe second, time I’ve said anything about it.

          You’ll have to excuse me for having an opinion.

          • renaud

            You can have an opinion, that’s great.

            But if your opinion is that Marty was #2 in SCN and needs to be spanked for that, it gets really really old and counterproductive

            • USA MRIID

              Speak for yourself, renaud. It can never be said often enough. Marty needs to go to prison for his crimes, in fact, right along side David and Rinder.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I think you need to have a reality check.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Oooh, a downvote. How can I live with myself with such shame?!?!?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Also, that is a pretty general way of looking at it. Maybe you should have a think about why I and many others are not a Rathbun fan. As in, look at the horrid things he did to other people, supposedly whilst part of “the most ethical people on the planet”

            • Betty

              Agreed. Marty should stop making affidavits.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I didn’t say that.

            • Betty

              But he’s has a lot to atone for before he should do anything to atone for the things that he has to atone for, agreed?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Uh. Yeah. Sure.

              Doesn’t mean he’s lying about anything in that deposition.

            • Betty

              But he has to atone for that before the atenuation

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              *sigh*

            • Betty

              Why should anyone listen unless?

            • Robert Eckert

              You aren’t making any sense. Rathbun has much to atone for. It is good that he is doing this. He will have to do much much more before he is forgiven.

            • Betty

              Much much more before he should even be listened to, this is way too early for anything that he says to be trusted, much more atonement is still needed

            • Robert Eckert

              Things which he says which are against his own interests or self-image, or which fit well with what we can confirm from other sources, can of course be trusted, and much of what is in this affidavit fits into one or other or both categories.

            • Betty

              No, much more penitence and personal pain are needed before he can be trusted

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              WHAT? What’s gotten into you Betty?! You think he could actually be trusted with “Much more atonement?” Betty, how could you?! Please get back to our purity. Come Betty, remember he could NEVER be trusted! Get back yourself Betty!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Come on, Betty. What’s going on with you?!? He shouldn’t don anything ever?! Where did you get this crazy idea that he could ATONE for anything? Betty, get back to being real.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        A downvote! Yes! I have entheta’d someone, or something, or whatnot.

        ๐Ÿ˜€

      • Davka

        I seem to recall in his recent deposition with Ken Dandar that he indicated that he tried to contact Lisa’s family through Dandar in order to apologize but they refused. I believe I am remembering that correctly.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I wasn’t aware of that one Davka. If that’s the case, then he earns a point.

          • Davka
            • Robert Eckert

              Transcribing the quote since it’s not a searchable or cut-and-pastable format:
              Q (by Dandar): You and I have had no social contact whatsoever, correct?
              A(Rathbun): None whatsoever. The only contact we’ve had is I phoned you to please put me in contact with your client, um, the aunt and executor–
              Q: Yes
              A: –of Lisa Macpherson’s estate, so that I could apologize for my role in what I did, and– and you told me that you would pass that request on. And that– then you got back to me– this was in 2009– and you got back to me and told me that she didn’t want to talk, but that she appreciated, um, my, um, thoughtfulness.

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              Well, then. At least he made the effort to try and apologise. Respect for that.

            • Davka

              Thank you Robert – you had the transcribing wherewithal that I did not!

    • USA MRIID

      What about Gerry Armstrong? Larry Wollersheim? Dennis Erlich? Marty has a lot to apologize for.

  • George Layton

    I wonder if Jeff Harris is watching all of this?

  • 3feetback-of-COS

    I’m no lawyer, but all this detail makes me wonder if there isn’t a case to be made for Obstruction of Justice? Isn’t that a felony?

    • mirele

      For which crime? Currently we’re talking a civil case.

      • ze moo

        Perjury in a civil case is still a felony (1 year or more in jail). There is a great deal of ‘wiggle room’ in a civil case, der scheissefรผhrer may not have perjured himself yet. Sometimes perjury in a civil case is taken care of by finding the culprit guilty and assessing a fine. Don’t write letters to Davey care of the Texas state penitentiary yet. It is a pity, I’ve already bought him soap on a rope.

      • DamOTclese2

        When David Miscavage committed perjury, the civil case also opened itself up in to spawning a criminal case, one punishable by a $1000 fine and 1 year in prison for each count.

    • 1subgenius

      The more obvious thing would be perjury. And yes, it does get prosecuted.

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      In Texas. There’s still a soupcon of frontier justice in the Lone Star State. Saddle up the posse, boys!

  • DamOTclese2

    “In response, Mr. Miscavige cursed about the incompetence of Mr. Anderson and me.”

    That’s like Moe complaining about the incompetence of Larry and Curly.

    • Tory Christman

      LOL! This is something most of us knew was going to snap, eventually. It really just depended
      on “when” and “how exactly”. So “Dave”? I’ve warned you for 13 years now: STOP HARMING FAMILIES>>>>STOP THE ABUSE”. You’ve Failed, you lied and now your creep ass day has finally come! Thank you to Monique, Marty and Tony O for such a great read. Also, thanks to ALL who help pass this on….much, much love and wooohoo! TICK TOCK, baby!! Tory/Magoo

      • Douglas D. Douglas

        Hey there! My wife has been binge viewing your videos. For the longest time she found my appalled interest in the CoS odd and a bit alarming– until she started looking at your story. She is now just as determined as I have been to see the abuses brought to the light of day.

        Thanks for all your are doing!

        • Eclipse-girl

          I definitely like Tory’s vids. I binged on Karen and the gang’s videos.

          I recommend those to your wife.

          • Tory Christman

            Agreed, Eclipse-girl—also XenuTV has some *excellent* videos/interview from many different peeps over the years. ๐Ÿ™‚

            • Eclipse-girl

              As long as we can get information out to those who may be breaking the rules , and to the newly left. I would like to let those who do a bit of sniffing around the internet that if they put out the call, there are several people who would help. We are empathic and compassionate.

              I like Andreas too. His was the only web site I was aware of until this whole Leah Remini. I have more fun on Tony’s blog.

              I am glad you got out. You are a heroine to many. I like your fun (goofy) charm.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Hear that Tory! I know there has to be days when you sit down in front of the monitor when you would So rather not for any number of reasons. But you do, and in that Tory Magoo way only you can do. I mean, who can argue or doubt Sally Fields? It all So works.

          • Tory Christman

            LOL! That ranks up,

            TheHoleDoesNotExist with what a professor told me some months ago.
            He said “no no, don’t change anything re your site! You are like the Kukla,
            Fran and Ollie of the Net”. (Honestly, he said that!) What a compliment! They were
            my favorite puppets, for those too young to know–or from countries where they were not shown on TV) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWyntdjqBhQ (Ok, super corny…but I *love* corny!) This is a great day….dancing around: woooohoooo! GO MONIQUE!

            • Illinoisian

              ‘When Burr Tillstrom was searching for the perfect foil for his puppets, he said: “What I need is a girl who can talk to a dragon.” Fran Allison is that girl.’ That’s sort of like a girl who could have ‘sympathy for the devil’ — sort of. I love your videos, too. (And I watched Kukla, Fran and Ollie.)

        • Tory Christman

          Thank you, Douglas and love to your wife, too!

      • aquaclara

        Tory! Look, it’s finally happening! Love your posts and videos – the cheering is underway, as that clock ticks!

        • Tory Christman

          aquaclara….thank you! Yes! Yes! I hope this lying, abusive RAT has finally stepped into the wrong TRAP. My guess is Marty KNOWS him very well, and also knows what a lying rat he really is. I cheer them on!! (as the clock ticks) ๐Ÿ™‚ (Waives to OSA ops, and Lurkers still “in”: BAIL WHILE U STILL CAN>>>>>>>>>I am NOT kidding!) Tory/Magoo

      • Tory Christman
        • kickingit101

          Tory the link does not work, or they flagged your post and had it taken down.

          • Tory Christman

            Try again…it works fine for me. ๐Ÿ™‚ ((Or you can go to ToryMagoo44 on YT—it’s there, too))

        • kickingit101

          Tory the link does not work or else those from the Church of Conocology have had it taken down from facebook.

      • DamOTclese2

        When your web site was being maintained by Fred, I read every one of your postings, many of them open messages to David M. No doubt every one of them was read by Rathbun or some other asshole and summarized in the daily or weekly reports to David.

        • Tory Christman

          Yeah….I had my comedy deal I wrote years ago: “DM In HELL”…It was all about he Trying (and failing of course) to “Order” the Devil around…and the Devil laughing his ass off and telling him how he “fit right in”. Thanks to Fredrick Rice for creating ToryMagoo.org and updating it. In the day, it was important. Now? Thankfully a different era–and I’m trying to learn how to use it. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • USA MRIID

      Hey Moe! Watch me shudder Marty Rathbun in to silence! Nyuck nyuck nyuck!

  • DamOTclese2

    Want to report this information to the IRS Criminal Investigation Division? And collect a reward when these insane crooks are indicted?

    http://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/f13909.pdf

  • L. C. Spencer

    โ€œFurther affiant sayeth not.โ€

    THE MICROPHONE, IT HAS BEEN DROPPED.

    • Casabeca

      Yea verily!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Unrelated, but here’s a link to the FSO’s delightful 1993 IRS exemption filing. Especially impressive is the income stated for 1992 (page 21) … over $217 million back then! That’s a lot of “clams”, wocka wocka wocka: http://www.xenufrance.net/flag-fso-scientology-to-irs-1023.pdf

  • Conditioner

    Thanks, Marty

  • kickingit101

    Like I said last week. Davey boy has brought checkers to Marty and Monique’s chess match.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      He always comes up a little “short”

      • 1subgenius

        He is quite unlike how objects in your side-view mirror appear.

        • Missionary Kid

          For those in other countries: Do your right side rear view mirrors that are convex have the warning etched into them saying, “Objects are closer than they appear?” I believe it’s on cars here to avoid law suits.

          • Mark

            I think it’s almost universal these days, MK.

            • Missionary Kid

              I’m wondering if it’s in English in France and Canada. They often seem offended by the use of English only.

              I admit us English speakers can be presumptive pricks, expecting English everywhere, and they are trying to stem the tide of English to preserve their native tongue.

        • USA MRIID

          I saw that little fucker bite someone’s ankle in a video recently. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Mark

        I never realised they did a ‘Junior Miss’ size in lounge-suits.

        • Suppressive Tomato

          I just really wish the guy on his left with the adorable little badge was patting him on the head. It would justify the smirk.

      • Whoknew

        Big beings come in small packages.

      • Chocolate Velvet

        Hmmm… I must admit, COB’s suit is impeccably tailored! Look at how that cuff hits the shoe at just the right place, not like those rumpled wogs he’s posing with. No wonder he’s the ecclesiastical leader of a “church” and they’re not! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • 1subgenius

      Like the phrase. I’m gonna steal it, mmmmmkay?

      • kickingit101

        It is given freely. It is another one of my “Heatherisms” as my oldest son says.

    • sizzle8

      One move to checkmate.

      • Missionary Kid

        I disagree. This is one move that will lead to an inevitable checkmate, because the little person trying to be a Deceptive Magistrate will stall, and file counterclaims, and stall, and appeal decisions, and stall as long as he can to avoid the inevitable. He’s an ass.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          That doesn’t mean you and E aren’t both right!

          • Espiando

            Chess is played on a clock, BTN. And you know what sound a clock makes, right? Tick Fuckin’ Tock.

          • Missionary Kid

            This is definitely one time when I hope I’m wrong and he’s right.

      • Espiando

        How interesting that the solution involves a pawn. That is what you thought Mosey was, didn’t you, Chuckles? Just Marty’s pawn? Well, shorty, she’s a queen in disguise.

      • Betty

        I love checkers

  • Chocolate Velvet

    Ok. I finally had time to finish the affidavit. All I want to say is, this is exactly what needs to happen. I commented a while back that Marty has the ability, in telling his story in detail, to provide validation for others in their accounts of COS shenanigans. I never imagined he would do it in the course of his own wife’s case against the cult, but that’s just fine. These details, iterated in a court filing, where they will remain on record forever. That’s a very BIG win! My hope is that this is just the beginning of an avalanche of suits for harassment. There are so many potential plaintiffs against scientology, as a direct result of Miscavige’s ongoing policies and decisions. What an excellent leader the COB is. Not! ๐Ÿ˜‰

    • Missionary Kid

      Unfortunately,I believe that just because something is in a court filing doesn’t make it true, legally, but it provides a basis for a place to look for evidence. Nothing has been ruled on, yet.

      • Chocolate Velvet

        It doesn’t make it true, but it makes it on record. In the public perception, this makes a big difference. Much of the battle to stop this cult is really about influencing the perception of it, and of its critics and their stories. Credibility is increased when one is willing to go on record with one’s accusations. It provides an answer to those who say “if that really happened, why don’t you tell the authorities?” The legal system will do its thing, and in the meantime there are these new developments to report and help shape the story of the scam of scientology in the public discourse. That’s the win.

        • Missionary Kid

          Excellent points, and better put than I did. The faithful, of course, will still disbelieve it, but they’re only a small part of the people who need to be appraised of the dirty facts of Co$.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            The “faithful”, at this point are, um………..really deluded, brainwashed or just in serious denial.
            Anyone can compare these ON RECORD stories now if they are willing to seek any kind of truth.
            Too many people are telling the same stories.
            Too many people were in the room when David Miscavige attacked people like Mike Rinder and Jeff Hawkins.
            Too many people can tell the same story about the sham structure.

            As some Jackass “Crook Ginger” once said: Look, don’t listen.

            • Missionary Kid

              There are newbies, like monkeyknicker’s sister and others who have been sucked into the bowels of the deep, dark recesses and kept busy. Yes, they are the deluded {faithful}. The whole idea in Clamland is to keep everyone so busy and off balance they don’t have time to think. The problem is, they’ve been programmed not to want anything else.

              The newbies and the Sea Org are Der Dwarfenfuehrer’s equivalent of the Hitler Youth.

              All it takes is a couple of clicks on a computer, and the truth is out there, but there are none so blind as those who will not see.

              Look, don’t listen, is excellent advice.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Yessssssssssssssssss! Well said (per usual) CV.

    • DamOTclese2

      Oh, that reminds me. I wonder if the slapping dwarf will file a motion to have the affidavit sealed.

      • EnthralledObserver

        Probably a bit late for that now… oops.

  • MissCandle

    The full ramification of Rathbun’s affidavit won’t sink in for a few days, but my first impression after reading it is that Marty is showing his deep love for Monique because nothing so far has caused him to make such disclosure and surely he must realize the “can of worms” he is opening.

    • Whoknew

      No doubt he loves her, but my impression is that they both would love to bring down Miscavige and they are both sick of the harassment and Monique is an excellent person to file such a case. She gets all Marty’s help and info and she’s an innocent never-in. It’s really in no way her fault that any of that nonsense came her way, no matter whether Marty is getting his karma or not.

      • Whoknew

        Just wish she could get the hugest pay-out ever and spread it around to all the other people hurt by fair game, who feel like they have no leverage or recourse or safety.

        • ThetaBara

          Time for a class action perhaps?

      • MissCandle

        I agree with you on all the points you made. However, imho Marty has had quite awhile to disclose this information which really would have helped many people in many ways (legally and mental health-wise, among two). He has also had various incentives during this time to disclose this information, not the least of which was his conscience. It took the terrorizing of Monique to finally get Marty to begin doing the right thing by disclosing this information.

  • Theo Sismanides

    Thanks Tony for this. And thanks to Marty. That affidavit is a catapult.

    Marty: do the right thing. You know what is right. Like you did when you won the basketball game the last moment. You got the ball Marty and everyone is looking at you. Times are not the same and you are not that young boy now. But, hey, Marty… you are always YOU!

    I trust you will do that right thing.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Ooooooooh Burn Theo, I can’t believe you hit Marty with a B-Ball similie!

      I would say by filing this affidavit he already stuck his neck out there, just like we all (including me) have been wanting him to do.
      I find this affidavit so satisfying I almost want to smoke a cigarette!
      Have a beer and enjoy the win, Theo!

      • Theo Sismanides

        BTN, true… this affidavit is a catapult… However, behind Marty there are scores of people who have been hurt by his and DM’s actions in the past. I was thrown out of the church for insisting on the application of certain HCOBs on translations. And I was persecuted for this because “DM and Mgmt knew better”.

        So, to us and me personally an affidavit is great but is not enough. If Marty does this for the Benjamin’s (lol, something I heard yesterday and it was a funny word for money) then he is gonna be toast. And I am afraid Marty having declared his Non Scientology status is going to do some stupid thing and rest in oblivion.

        He has the ball now and it’s an easier shot. The affidavit shows elaborately that DM is behind all this. My hat is off to Marty but not totally until I see what is his intention on this.

        I heard that the McPherson family finally got the money to not proceed against the Church, which is even more pathetic.

  • mmn

    I am a lurker too ever since Leaha’s split. hope this is the beginning of the end of co$. I have read so many horror stories and it’s so sad that so many lives have been ruined and yet there are so many more who don’t realize their lives are at risk.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I thank the atom every day for Leah Remini. We have so many new people who have found out the truth about this awful cult. It is Awesome.

      Welcome to everyone!
      We are so glad to invite you to Tony’s Bunker.

      Make sure that you make it clear right up front to him (Tony O.) that you do “NOT DO KITTY LITTER”!

      However,… if you bring Cheeto’s and Vodka…You get extra up arrow bonuses!

      • kickingit101

        Sorry I only bring a crap load of Bud Light and homemade potato wedges with lots of cheese and BACON!!! LOL

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Shit, you are now our new Leader!

          All Hail kickingit101!
          hip hip hooray!!!

          • kickingit101

            I do not think I can ever hear “hip hip hooray” again without seeing the face of that asshat Hubbard.

            • Studious Judious

              How ’bout Huzzah!

            • kickingit101

              That works. LOL

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              I know, huh? that is why we do it!

        • Aslansown

          Although I love Cheetos, you had me at bacon.

        • Casabeca

          Sorry, Bury, I uh have to go to another party now…

      • USA MRIID

        Vodka? No no no! Peppermint schnapps!

      • Casabeca

        Since you are the Bunker hostess, good to know what you like! Although I will be knocking on your door with my clean hand, dusting the orange off the other one. Hey Bury, I brought vodka!

    • Douglas D. Douglas

      Greetings! Welcome! Enjoy the ride!

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      Welcome and this is good to know (since Leah’s split). There was a grand influx when Katie split too! Don’t be shy about asking questions if you’re recently lurking. It’s like getting off a plane in a foreign country….or Scotland.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        “or Scotland”…
        I am so telling Mr. Nuts on you!!!!

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          I arrived there once and a) could Not understand a damn word b) my “ride” did not show up and c) could Not figure out how to use the phone to see where the hell my ride/guest host was! But I loved Glasgow and Edingburg….end of derail. Oh, and please don’t tell him! I have popcorn and goodies.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            If there is any kind of Food? He is Butter!

        • Nevermore

          I’m Scottish, don’t worry, that remark has gone in my book – in red!

      • sugarplumfairy

        I rode in on the Katie wave.. Tony hasn’t been able to shake me since..

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Katie sent us sugar plum fairies!

          • EnthralledObserver

            And Nuts… and a whole slew of “Observers” ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Me too. I used to occasionally read his schtick before,,,,but Katies exit cut it loose.
          Actually, I found Ortega “originally” thanks to the Clambake who I did follow for a long time as a lurker. But I only read occassionally and then KATIE BLEW!!!!

        • ThetaBara

          I was reading already but started posting around that time. Katie rocked it!

    • Eclipse-girl

      Welcome. Its a great place

    • USA MRIID

      It becomes addictive. ๐Ÿ™‚ Watching these idiot Scientology loons setting themselves on fire, I mean. They are fascinating to watch. They get indicted for crimes and their response is to commit more crimes. Rather like the NRA shit holes that slaughter schools full of kids and then demand that more NRA shit holes with guns is the solution.

      • Robert Eckert

        Oy, don’t rile up the “2nd Amendment” folks.

  • Suppressive Tomato

    I believe COB may be misapplying the tech, relying on this cover illustration for both theory and practice.

    • Missionary Kid

      The {tech} was always just what LRH wanted it to be at one particular moment. There’s so much contradiction in his {work} that DM can pretty much do what he wants by emphasizing one passage over another. I will remind you of what I came up with, calling it Miscavige’s Law: If there’s a way of fucking things up, he will.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Bingo………………!
        As someone smarter than I said…
        It is ALWAYS opposite day in Scientology!

    • Suppressive Tomato

      Oooh, my first down vote! Yay! Big win, end of session!

    • USA MRIID

      Do it, Lron! DOO EEEET!

  • Yan117

    Off topic, sorry

    Just found out minutes ago that Tony Ortega has won the SP Journalist Of The Year Award! I bet he never even mentioned it. Too damn humble that guy.

    It doesn’t get better than that.

    Congratulations Tony!

    • Missionary Kid

      No need to be sorry. I would venture to say that it’s unanimous around here.

    • no_srsly
      • Yan117

        Holy cow! He won TWO SP Journalist Of The Year Awards!?

        I was talking about the 2013 West Coast SP Party Awards.

        http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R61XpS08t9U

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          He won the west coast too? that would be three than!

    • Captain Howdy

      You need to get faster runners or better pigeons.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        hehehe…….You are so bad!

        Oh, and I always wanted to say this.
        I was “Theyre”.

        Sorry, Sweeney….I knew I would screw up the accent!!!

    • Jeb Burton

      One of the best investigative reporters around today. Congrats.

    • USA MRIID

      Better that a Pulitzer!

  • Espiando

    I have this feeling that Marty’s been in total control of this game ever since the Squirrelbusters showed up, and everyone else is still learning what rules he’s playing by. If you look at everything he’s done, from moving to ending off Memoirs at 1986, there’s a reason behind it which becomes clear only in retrospect. He was keeping post-1986 in reserve in case he needed to use it, which he did now. Even his petulant response to everyone here who lambasted him for holding back is part of the game. Hell, pissing off the Fundie Indies is part of it. I can start to see the patterns now, and it’s beautiful.

    If I ever wanted to take grandmaster classes in Being A Vicious Bastard, I’ll head to Casablanca Dos.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      I can see exactly where you are coming from. Some of those things that just didn’t make sense are sort of becoming “ah ha” moments now.
      I think we are beginning to find out that Marty may very well be the better “basketball player”…so to speak.

      • TheHoleDoesNotExist

        No no no. Not basketball, not chess, not checkers. This is the game and game board (heh)

        http://i44.tinypic.com/2rdyjk6.jpg

        • Espiando

          Except that he’s both the snake and the ladder. And the dice too.

          • TheHoleDoesNotExist

            Ain’t that somethin’? Well, I have always said, when someone like Marty, or DM for that matter, do or say something that either doesn’t make sense or makes you think you have it all figured out where they’re heading, what they’re doing…. hah

            Marty’s playing the Art of War, along with his OSA checksheet, and Hubbard’s Data Evaluator Programs and probably a bit of the old First or Third Class Missionaire hat programs. Never doing what you think at the time. Sly as snakes on a ladder. The main trick is knowing when to stay perfectly still and do nothing. It’s kind of classic.

      • Espiando

        I’ve said a number of times here that Marty has to have some kind of plan behind what he does, but it kept driving me nuts when I couldn’t see the reasons for certain things he did. They just didn’t seem to fit. It’s only with this affidavit that a lot of things locked into place for me. Now I’m seeing the big picture.

        He’s playing the game on a whole bunch of levels. He’s going to try to pull off his own Protestant Reformation, except that he’s going to do it by machine-gunning the pope and castrating and removing the tongues of the priesthood. The sheer audaciousness is breathtaking.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Yeah it could be!
          Davey “acted” at ruthlessness.

          Marty may have “Zen”‘ mastered it.

          I don’t care. The end might just justify the means in this case,.

        • Suppressive Tomato

          Yeah, it occurred to me that perhaps Marty chose to relocate to Texas (as opposed to a state where Co$ has major operations) because he KNEW in any future suit, COB would use the “Sorry, ma’am, never been to Texas…” defense, and then Marty would have him cornered.

    • DMSTCC

      You and I must be hitting the same pipe. I was just thinking how he may have had a game plan all along. Keep letting them make mistakes and slowly gather ammo needed to hit DM directly.

    • dbloch7986

      It wouldn’t surprise me if that was the case. However, his motives are strikingly self-serving. It’s fun to watch the circus, and I don’t doubt that he’s more cunning than he appears on the surface. None of what he has done has shown him to be anything but self-serving.

      I wouldn’t count on him ruining Scientology. I’m sure if he is planning anything, he’s busy maximizing his eventual payoff.

      • Espiando

        Derek, you spent so long inside the Borg Collective that you need a little time to understand that being self-serving can be a good thing. At this point, I don’t care what Marty’s motives are. I’m just happy we’re on the same side.

        As for him ruining Scientology, I’m sure that’s the EP of his game. The whole thing is too corrupt and soul-destroying to let live. If Marty has the weapons to destroy the rotten enterprise, let him use them.

        • dbloch7986

          I never said it wasn’t a good thing. Moving to Texas is an entirely self-serving decision on my part.

          I think the affidavit is awesome and certainly awe-inspiring. However Marty is not awesome.

          • Suppressive Tomato

            I totally get where you’re coming from Derek. The way you were treated by this criminal organization is completely inexcusable, and Marty played a big role in perpetuating that environment. Getting his revenge does not absolve any of his crimes. But, we can all be glad that he is getting his revenge as theatrically and as publicly as he is!

            • dbloch7986

              That’s exactly what I am saying.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Let it all burn! Exactly!

          You know it is funny, I was having a dialog with someone a few days ago about reading Marty’s last book and it was very frustrating to me. He went to the edge, but didn’t step over the cliff. I remember saying I wanted to throw the book…but at the same time, there was something I liked about Marty.
          BTW, as I type this, I felt my left eyebrow raise a good inch,
          hmmmmmmmmmmm….

          • pronoia

            Well you can tell a lot about someone through the company they chose to keep. And I think Marty’s wife and his dog are cool beings.

        • dbloch7986

          Also I can do without the life lessons that border on insulting. I don’t mind advice, but I’d prefer it not denigrate my state of mind.

          What I am saying is based on Marty’s actions being self-serving you can expect that his plan is to get money and not to get rid of Scientology. It’s the same as every case brought against Scientology.

          There’s nothing special about it and Marty is not planning to demolish Scientology. He’s trying to do what every litigant wants to do, which is to scare the midget so he shakes hard enough that money comes out of his pockets.

          No, there is nothing wrong with being self-serving. I have also said that from the beginning that Marty is under no obligation to make any kind of amends to anyone. He can do whatever the hell the wants and that’s the beauty of America.

          • Eclipse-girl

            I hope you are wrong. I think that both MRs have enough info that would cause Co$ to fatally collapse and perhaps (my dream) put DM behind bars.

            I agree that Marty is self serving and could have told all this stuff long ago.

            I am NOT a master at the long game or manipulating people. Perhaps Marty is, after 17 yrs as head of OSA?

            There are plenty of people who are happy with info released in the affidavits. I do wonder if Mike will testify.

        • Candygram

          I still think the rathbuns may be in it for more than money. Many of you obviously know Marty better than I do. For all his faults and transgressions, he seems nothing if not strategic. I think he’s in it to take the game, not win a consolation prize. I guess time will tell.

      • May_West

        There are tales that Marty talked with the feds. I have to wonder if that was all self-serving.
        Also, up until recently, even had Marty sung far and wide, how well would it have been received? Would anyone in authority have believed him or taken him seriously? I think with all the other stuff currently mounting against scientology, that Marty’s speaking out now will have a much greater impact than it would have before.

  • Jeb Burton

    it sounds to me that Marty and Mike enabled Miscaviage. I wonder if they would of left the cult if DM hadnt put them in the hole.Total power corrupts, and boy these guys were corrupt and abused their positions to an unimaginable degree. I hope they make amends for all the hell they wrought. This is the first Ive seen of the full scope of what Rathbun did, and it is not pretty. It seems to me after reading the affadavit that Rathbun is responsible for how OSA does their dirty work.today. What a pair Marty and DM must of been back in the day.

    • dbloch7986

      Marty has admitted to much worse.

      • Bury_The_Nuts

        Yeah, but what he admitted to in this affidavit was EPIC and criminal.
        I admire that he finally stuck his neck right on the line over LM.
        Yeah, he has said he destroyed evidence,,,,,,,,,,,but trying to “buy’ a judge?
        SWEET.

        • dbloch7986

          Yup. It’s an awesome affidavit. I don’t really admire it though. He may have admitted to a bunch of stuff in open court, but he also stands to gain quite a bit personally from this.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            Maybe, But I am in the “Espiando” school of “you sly dog Marty…You always had a backup plan”

            • Espiando

              Marty has pulled off at least two Xanatos Gambits so far during this game (betting the farm on Chuckles continuing the harassment after he moved and generally stopped talking about Scientology on his blog, and betting the other farm on the Fundie Indies doing something incredibly stupid like Milestone Two). He’s gone into “unknown territory”. He’s in what Bill Simmons calls “The Tyson Zone”, where nothing he does after this point will surprise me.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              chuckles continuing the harassment after he moved and generally stopped talking about Scientology on his blog

              ^^^Yah, this was a big fucking clue. And here I was banging my head.
              The move. the change…the Timing!!!! Shit already!!!

            • Casabeca

              The Acme safe just fell on my head.

      • Jeb Burton

        He may have. But I didnt know he was the architect of OSA, Line 8 of the affadavit.

        • dbloch7986

          I’ve seen him say that before, almost as if he was proud of it. I’ve read his entire involvement in the Lisa McPherson cover-up. A person like that doesn’t turn into a saint after a decade.

          But like I said, the affidavit is awesome, and it’s fun to watch the circus. I would just recommend that you keep in perspective that you are watching Joseph Stalin fight against Hitler.

          • Jeb Burton

            Agreed. It is awesome. Im glad he filed it. I think if the judge buys it, there will be criminal charges for the old COB.

          • Anonymookme

            He is proud of it. I read his affidavit, and see him spouting all of his {very important titles, credentials and status} and I just want to laugh out loud. Who wants to tell him that dressing up in his faux navy uniform just makes him look like a doofus and impresses no one?
            He’ll finally spill his guts when it’s going to benefit him. Who’d have thunk it?

          • Robert Eckert

            A little pettier: al-Qaeda fighting Assad, or Saddam Hussein vs. Ayatollah Khomeini

    • Eclipse-girl

      If you go through the 1000+ posts, you will find conversations about this topic.

      Many of us are very aware of others that have been hurt by OSA, and Marty personally (under the direction of DM).

      I just want this cult to be ruined. I would like those who blew and those still in SO to get some money for their labors , and punishments.

  • dbloch7986

    Tyler, Texas? That’s where I’m going to be living…

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      and we will be requesting live man on the street vid reporting, of course. Unless you are On Courses at the university!

      • dbloch7986

        Seems like Texas is full of Ex-Scientologists these days.

        • TheHoleDoesNotExist

          Ain’t it a hoot! Hey you don’t get a lot of in the courtroom experience in some law classes. Just think…finally scientology will do you some good.

        • Nick Overmyer

          I just about flipped my lid when stories of Tommy Davis surfacing in my fair city…um, surfaced.

          • dbloch7986

            LOL Well Austin is a very attractive place.

    • Jo

      Any word from the guy in the boat with the wonky kindle signal? That was strange story.

  • GlibWog

    ******* IMPORTANT QUESTION FOR MY FELLOW BUNDERETTES ******

    A couple of weeks ago someone wrote a fabulous list for the Still Ins to read while they were lurking. I would like to create this list in a download and place it here! I can’t remember who wrote it..

    Can someone put the list here for me..? Please?
    Example of statements on the list:

    1. All your money is going to New Buildings and DM lifestyle

    2. There are currently 30,000 members in Scn NOT the Millions etc..

    There will be more Lurkers, Guests, Family, Indies, and Still Ins snooping. I think this list would be valuable.

    I can post it daily…”Now is the time to come to the aid of your smoooches.” ( tee hee…)

    • TheHoleDoesNotExist

      That was me but I don’t think I saved it. I know DeElizabeth said she did. I’ll go check. brb
      wait…Bunderites? Are we now related to The Bundy’s?

      • GlibWog

        hahahaha Bunderites.. That is funny. I was in such a hurry…

        Thanks Hole.. I thought it was you.. Great List.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        If you click on your user name on any post, you’ll get a pop-up window with all of your posts.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      If not……..I will go snoop it out of the comments when I got a bit more time.

      • GlibWog

        Thanks Bury… I will look too..

        • GlibWog

          OMG You guys must be sick of me.. For being here such a short time I sure have posted a lot.. Good Lord! Sorry.. Gotta Love Me..

          I can’t find it you guys! I probably said.. ” Love it.. or Woo Hoo..”

    • Missionary Kid

      When it gets posted again, I’ll start one of my lists for it.

      • Eclipse-girl

        “Freeloader debt” is NOT Legal!
        You don’t have to route out – just blow!

        Those two are my favorite.

        and TY , Glib, for all that you do.

        • Espiando

          One thing that no one ever adds to this list, but will definitely appeal to some potential still-in lurkers: On the outside, you can masturbate and not be sec-checked for doing it.

          • Bury_The_Nuts

            I know you hate this……….but, LOL!

          • Sandy

            I have had “a few” but I want to up vote you more than once for that! That is funny!!!

          • Missionary Kid

            I added it.

        • kickingit101

          How about those who are never ins look at the religion as a scam and a cult and will actually use it against you when looking at hiring you. Yes it is illegal but you know it happens everyday without the employer saying that as the reason.

          • Eclipse-girl

            My husband works with genetics, biology, protein etc. He could care less what your religion is, however you have to know the science. It is unlikely they would every hire a creationist because they do not know the science.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        The Jedi also outnumber Sciloontologists 10 to 1 at last count ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Missionary Kid

          That was, of course, in the U.K. I don’t think we have any statistics like that for the U.S., but if people were given the choice, I’d say the numbers would be about the same.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            It’s a far larger percentage in Australia ๐Ÿ˜‰ maybe 20 to 1 by now

            • Missionary Kid

              Lucky you.

      • Lunatic Posse

        Hey MK. Here’s one for ya I remember from Lermanet. “You mocked up your reactive mind – think about that next time you pick up the cans.” Best wishes!

        • Missionary Kid

          Done

    • ThetaBara

      “Is this what you joined scientology to do?”

      • GlibWog

        Girl.. I thought you were asking me if this was my job in Scientology to make lists..bawwwhahahaha

        I swear to God..

        Good one Theta.. I think that may be on the list already..if not I will add it!

  • Captain Howdy

    Warrior Rathbun drops an enthea bomb on Little Hitler

    Football season is set to begin in a matter of moments in Mad America

    And Captain Howdy is safety ensconced and properly anesthetized in the Turkey Bear Cave

    Let the games begin!

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Do you have enough Tater juice and clean sheets?

      • Captain Howdy

        Clean sheets, tatter juice, tobacco, IMODIUM, prilosec, Klonopins, a little afghan spice. I AM READY.

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          OK then, see ya Tuesday….IF… I survive the new “International – Underground Bunker Southern SP Society” 3.5 day weekend with special guest “Whingey Bingey”!

          If not, I am leaving you my “serial killer” book collection and any body parts I have collected as well.

          (Oh, except for my dad’s “bone chip”…I want that to go to my niece to haunt her for biting him when she was two)

          • Captain Howdy

            “If not, I am leaving you my “serial killer” book collection and any body parts I have collected as well.”

            Oooh I’m already drooling. I’ve been giving serious thought as to who i would leave my beautiful mostly SK/MM collection to. I have a couple of capable friends, but I’m not sure they are completely worthy. We may need to exchange info at some point just in case.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Absolutely. Some folks do not see the “beauty” in this incredible stuff.

              BTW, when I was digging thru my dads ashes…you should have seen the looks of horror on the faces while I did it?

              Keith Richards taught me that there were chunks of bone in there.
              (Thanks Keef)

            • Missionary Kid

              When it was illegal to dump ashes in the state of California years ago, People used to arrange for flights out beyond the 3 mile limit. I went along on a flight in a Cessna 150, and was to dump the ashes out of a paper bag.

              I thought that putting the bag out the window that opened up enough to put the bag outside would enable me to pour the ashes out into the slipstream. Wrong.

              I discovered the hard way that the bag has to be WAY outside of the window, because a bunch of the ashes ended up being sucked back into the cockpit before I stopped and put my arm as far as I could so no more blew back inside. We vacuumed out the ashes from the cockpit when we got back.

              Talking to other pilots, the trick is to put a tube out the window, and let the air suck the ashes out. TMI?

            • EnthralledObserver

              I’m pretty sure I inhaled some of my Grandfather when my Dad spread his ashes around a tree in our back-yard on my 21st birthday. He will be with me ‘always’…

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Nope, I learned a good lesson about the density of ashes this year!

            • Captain Howdy

              You can’t have “good” without “evil’, it’s like you can’t have matter without anti-matter.

              People all through history have needed their “boogeymen”. With the rise of science and reason the boogeyman of yore, the vampires, demons, witches and werewolves have been replaced with the serial killer, mass murderer and pedophile.

              A world without “boogeyman” would be a very boring world indeed.

            • Missionary Kid

              Ann Rule rules.

            • Bury_The_Nuts

              Oooh yes..long term fan here!

              Edit: However…there ARE better!

    • Missionary Kid

      I’m sure that you’re referring both to the Rathburn/Co$ and football games.

      • Captain Howdy

        Go BRONCOS and a CURSE on the Houses of Belicheck And Kraft!

        • Sandy

        • Nevermore

          I’ll just sit here and wave my Terrible Towel at you…

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    What’s happening to Miscavige and Drake for messing with Mosey:
    http://youtu.be/YGkxZ68fIg8

  • renaud

    What’s our last post record? Was is 1500?

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      sounds close. WTF. Today is wild ass!!!

    • Missionary Kid

      I believe it’s much higher, but that was a two post day by Tony.

  • mouseyhair

    Although I have not read it yet, I am excited to read Marty’s affidavit. I feel like I am going to need a large quantity of sanitizer! For my eyes! This always lurker, sometimes commenter is not a fan of the Marty dog and pony show. I agree with Derek that what he is doing here is awesome but Marty as a person is not! He just seems too proud of his “job” at Co$ and the havoc he played with people’s lives. Enough said….

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Since it’s a total party in the house tonight, I have to repost one of my favorite things that I’ve ever read in the Bunker, written by Espiando a few weeks ago. It is his summary of the OT degrees. Just epic!

    “Let’s see if I can still speak enough Scilon to translate from the Bridge chart:

    OTI: Find out how much better you are than wogs, and get to see the universe in ways that normally require hallucinogens.

    OTII: Find out what an insufferable prick you were in your past lives.

    OTIII: XENU XENU XENU. And once you’ve accepted that bullshit, nothing will surprise you anymore. I went through my own personal OTIII when I was inspecting a slaughterhouse and found a guy having sex with a goat. After that…

    OTIV: You thought the Purif got rid of all your nasty little drug habits. Nope. You were a druggie in all of your past lives. Time to clear that up too.

    OTV: You thought you got rid of Dianetics when you went Clear. Nope. Ron has a whole new set of Dianetics bullshit for you to learn. Here’s where you do those with an auditor.

    OTVI: Now you do the whole new set of Dianetics bullshit on your own.

    OTVII: Space cooties. You got ’em. You got lots of ’em. Time to use the whole new set of Dianetics bullshit to get rid of them. And every six months, you get to go down to Flag and tell them every single thing you found out about your space cooties, and whether that information can jeopardize The Last Hope For This Planet.

    OTVIII: You know the space cooties you got rid of? You made them all up. That’s why we have you on board a ship that most likely will give you mesothelioma and/or pick a cancer, any cancer. If you weren’t on board a ship, you’d likely strangle the twenty people nearest to you. Besides, Scientology reserves the privilege of cold-blooded murder to Narconon staff, auditors at Flag, and The Dark Lord Chuckles The Silly Piggy.

    I think I’m right.” -Espiando

    • Casabeca

      Eyes popping out of head with a- ooo- gah sound effects!

    • Missionary Kid

      I like John P.’s name for the boat, SS Mesothelioma. Someone else described it as, “The Love Boat meets A Clockwork Orange.”

      • Espiando

        Uh, I was the one who used SS Mesothelioma.

        • Betty

          Actually, that is like misappropritation to use that term

          • Espiando

            I don’t need to word-clear, since Marty said I was at Cause Over Everything, so I can definitely tell you that “appropritation” isn’t a word. Unless you meant “masturbation”, in which case, I can say this:

            YEAH, I DO IT! I DO IT A LOT! AND I LIKE DOING IT! SO SEC CHECK ME! DO ME WITH THE JOBURG, YOU DIRTY, DIRTY BITCH!!!

            • Betty

              I don’t find that to be gender neutral, ok

            • ThetaBara

              I could sec-check you, but I’d have to charge.

            • Betty

              Your milkshake is probably better than Espiandos

            • ThetaBara

              Tough call.

        • Missionary Kid

          You probably did, but I just remember seeing it in a comment by John P. That’ll teach me to attribute things to an individual. I’m a relative newbie, so there’s a lot of good ideas and terms that have been wandering around here and the VV.

          Here’s my list for the boat, and those who’ve been in the naval services know why I call it a boat:
          THE $CIENTOLOGY BOAT
          Flea Winds
          Fee Winds
          Flee Winds
          SS Mesothelioma
          The Love Boat meets A Clockwork Orange

          • sister wendy

            Aspestos Boat

            • Missionary Kid

              Did you mean Asbestos Boat?

            • sister wendy

              haha! Yes! thanks:)

  • EnthralledObserver

    Marty himself is not EPIC, but this here affidavit IS!
    I knew that bastard was holding out on us… and I bet the farm there is a whole lot more far more EPIC he’s still holding back. One day… maybe one day we’ll get it all.

    • Bury_The_Nuts

      Sometimes, I hate the fact that I can’t multiple up-arrow.!
      This is one of those times EO!

      • EnthralledObserver

        I gave one to you in honour of the extras you’d like to give. It’s the best I can do. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • Bury_The_Nuts

          Ditto!

    • Casabeca

      I guess we have to unwrap the candy one piece at a time. Grrr ;).

    • kickingit101

      You do not put your whole hand out at once. You give it piece by piece. If he gives it all at once then they will know that everything that Marty has. That is not how you win against a criminal organization like the one they are going up against. Hopefully they have everything backed up and hiding in numerous places.

    • Veritas

      He’s doing a good job so far!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    Desired EP of this judicial cycle

    • USA MRIID

      The court prison is going to need to get an orange jumper from the juvenile court system to fit David.

      • aboutandout

        No they will just give him one from a female prison

    • Veritas

      Awesome!

  • Bury_The_Nuts

    Where the hell is Alanzo?

    • EnthralledObserver

      Hmm… yes, good question. I haven’t seen much of him since Marty released his latest book (or was it the one before that, even?). He was saying something then about re-evaluating his stance on Indie Scientology. Gosh, I hope we haven’t lost him to a relapse…

    • Casabeca

      And we are missing Fist of Xenu too.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Yes, I myself have been wondering where the other Fist has been………..

        Let the jokes begin with that one ๐Ÿ˜›

        • Casabeca

          Maybe the J&D will lure him back! At least we have the one ;-).

      • i-Betty

        I think FoX and Mrs FoX are on an extended summer holiday ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Casabeca

          Good to hear. I like to think they are leaf peeping in some glorious national park with poor Internet reception.
          FoX has same sense of humor as my favorite uncle, I know lots of us miss him.
          Thanks i

    • Davka

      I’ve seen occasional posts in the past couple of months on both MR blogs.

  • USA MRIID

    1289 comments! I read the affidavit, I hope that David Miscaviage shit his underroos when he read it, now I get to work through the informative comments. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • Suppressive Tomato

      It’s gonna be an ugly night at Flag or Int or wherever he’s hiding out. I predict binging on expensive scotch until he passes out in his own vomit after slapping some degraded beings around.

      • USA MRIID

        I wonder if his sycophants will continue to tape record him as he chokes to death on his own vomit, transcribing every grunt just in case there’s a few last orders to obey before he moves on to Target 2.

        • EnthralledObserver

          lol… the image of that is now permanently etched (like steel plates) in my mind.

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Yepper, and what an image it is!

            However, when I think of Miss Savage being “defrocked” I keep picturing him in a long, frilly pink dress……………..

          • USA MRIID

            LOL! Yeah, “gurgle gurgle” and all the people playing back the tapes trying for the live of them to figure out what that means.

        • Suppressive Tomato

          The thing that amazed me, as a never-in, is that so many people were privy to his furious tirades and abuse (the people taping and typing) and yet they went along with it. I don’t understand that level of cognitive dissonance. It shows you how fast and how thorough brainwashing can be accomplished.

          • USA MRIID

            There have been numerous clinical studies that tested the phenomena. People are willing to commit violence against others if the group agrees, either through verbal consensus or through inaction.

            • Suppressive Tomato

              I’ve skimmed data like that, Wikipedia probably. It still scares the COB out of me and I truly hope I wouldn’t do that if in a similar situation.

            • USA MRIID

              LOL! “COB” as a verb. As in, “God damn it! I just COB my underwear!”

            • Betty

              Yeah, they will shock each other and stuff

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              YEAH! Don’t scare me like that, Betty. I thought you left me here by myself with all these wogs. OK, Let’s get back to work. Let’s tell more about how COB is SO much more trustworthy than that psychotic RATbun. You go first, Betty. Hit with both barrels!

            • Betty

              Lots of people here say so, like richeliu

          • Robert Eckert

            Furious, abusive leaders are often surrounded by meticulous record-keepers.

            http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fsisyD-9B1s

  • Betty

    What a joke.

    Marty left the Church, and is an apostate. Many, many posters here have pointed out this fact, and that he can’t be trusted. This is a great venue for expression of that opinion! Keep at it!

    He is really trying to be contentious and hurt the church, and that’s basically a negative action.

    • May_West

      The so-called church needs a hurtin’. The so-called church needs to shut down. Apostate Marty completed a very positive action with his deposition. Marty, right now, is more trustworthy than any member of the so-called church.

    • Espiando

      Wrong. Marty is a bitter defrocked apostate. You need to learn your script better.

      • Betty

        Whatever kind of apostate, he can’t be trusted to give affadavits. We should make sure of that since until he has done atonements, he shouldn’t be saying anything.

        • Espiando

          And by “atonements”, you mean A To E, right?

          • Andrew Robertson

            “….and until he comes to his senses, his only terminal is the International Justice Chief via the Continental Justice Chief and his next actions would be steps A-E as outlined in HCO PL 23 Dec 65 RA SUPPRESSIVE ACTS SUPPRESSION OF SCIENTOLOGY AND SCIENTOLOGISTS.”

            Don’t forget Betty that this blog has posters that know far more than you do about the criminal history, vicious behavior and methodology of the Church of Scientology.

            Andrew

            • i-Betty

              Hear, hear ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Akynikos

          Betty, why does the church have so many apostates? Is it really possible to apostatize once you’ve gone clear?

          • Betty

            Yes, if you are bitter, and defrocked.Then de facto.

            • May_West

              ^^^^^^^ Troll.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              You tell em, Betty!

        • Suppressive Tomato

          This is a step in his atonement, “Betty”.

          • Betty

            No,he is obviously evil, this doesn’t help

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Without a doubt, Betty!

        • NeverIn

          Betty, you understand that you are speaking in SCN logic, right? And that the real world – the shared reality that includes the U.S. justice system – does not actually operate according to SCN logic? No one out here gives a shit that SCN has labeled him an apostate or that by SCN rules he shouldn’t be saying anything. SCN rules and SP declarations are irrelevant in this world, whereas sworn affidavits are very relevant.

          • Betty

            Apostates cant’ be trusted, hard stop.

            • Akynikos

              But Betty, why does the church have any apostates at all? Can you really apostatize after going clear?

            • Betty

              I’m not SCN, but I would guess yes

            • Akynikos

              You would “guess”? But then that means it could happen to ANYONE who has gone clear, or worked their way up to ladder to . . . whatever Marty was when he split (OTVIII?). You may not be SCN as you claim, but you seem to know about enough about “clear” and “atonements” . . . what ensures you won’t leave?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I just KNEW you couldn’t be a scibot! I can’t believe people here could even think that. Tell them what’s what, Betty!

            • Suppressive Tomato

              You’re not Scn is as true as I’m not alive right now to post this.

            • Suppressive Tomato

              LOL on the hard stop. You shouldn’t be reading entheta, “Betty”. Report to your MAA immediately and ask for the Joburg. Your eternity is at stake!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Don’t stop hard Betty. You gotta keep speaking the TRUTH!

            • NeverIn

              I think that word does not mean what you think it means.

      • Robert Eckert

        That was Debbie Cook. Marty is a sour defrocked apostate.

    • kickingit101

      Marty and Monique do not have to “Try” to hurt the Church of Conocology Davey boy is doing a very impressive job at doing that by being his dumbass self. Betty you are holding onto the Titanic. Your best bet is to let go and swim to a life boat.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      The problem for COB is that there are too many other ex Sea Org that can corroborate what Marty is claiming. And, as far as the judge is concerned, at this point he’s trying to determine who should be included in the suit. These allegations are likely enough for the judge to order a popcorn machine for the courtroom and enjoy the fireworks.

    • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

      It isn’t a church, a religion, or anything that at all benefits anyone, except Miss Savage.

      The stupidity of some people will never cease to amaze me…………..

      • Veritas

        Amazing indeed

    • USA MRIID

      He’s not trying to hurt any “church,” he’s trying to get an insane, violent psychopath to stop committing racketeering crimes against his wife.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        And people in general.

    • EnthralledObserver

      I really am no fan of Marty’s, and I do believe his agenda is self-serving, but I applaud his (belated) spilling of his guts, and hope for a continuance. Because, although I don’t like him, I know that when it comes to these matters… MARTY tells the TRUTH !!!!!!!!! … finally.

    • IASREG

      Yes Betty, Mark Rathbun will never increase his Status being a bitter defrocked apostate so his case is frozen on the whole time track for sure, this hurts the Church. Betty, I hope you can take that next leap of faith, no matter the cost, and increase YOUR STATUS 5X at the next event or visit to your Ideal Org. Stop by the Registrar and WOW them with your commitment!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Time to whip out the credit cards ๐Ÿ˜‰

      • Free Minds, Free Hearts

        Betty how much money do you have? If you can put in $100K – $250K – or more towards superpower maybe it can open finally after 20 or so years. You go, girl. Mortgage the house, live in your car, take your kids inheritance, max your credit cards, do it again, give it to COB – he needs it more than you I think, since he has all these enturbulating lawsuits. We have your back. If you don’t have the money, you can just do A-E again.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      You are right Betty, There people here are a Joke! They obviously haven’t seen that video of speaking the truth about Rathbun and how the church is really expanding. I’m so glad you are here, Betty! Keep up the good work!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        Wow. Just. Wow.

        I’m not a drinker, but I think I need a beer………

    • 0tessa

      Oh, get a life, will you.

  • kickingit101

    Davey boy is going to have an “Oprah” moment…. You’re and SP, you’re an SP, you’re and SP, you are ALL SP’s!!!!!

  • Couch_Incident

    So, now that Rathbun has filed an affidavit attesting to his involvement in SCN’s nefarious activities at the very top, is he now susceptible to being called as a witness in other cases? I don’t think that any non-disclosure agreement that he signs in this case as part of a settlement can shield him from having to answer questions on the stand in other cases. The only way to avoid this would be to ship him off to another country ala Debbie Cook where civil courts here couldn’t compel him to testify.

    • Betty

      Rathbun is a bitter apostate and defrocked as well. Notwithstanding, he is can’t be truthfull.

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        So he’s running around in the buff? Or in his shorts?

        Must be a heck of a lot of naked people with all this de-frocking going on……….

        • Betty

          Just sayin, can’t trust a person like that, after all, he once was a SCN,and you can never trust a person again, never, once they were a SCN

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            I may not like Rathbun at all, but I believe that being Miscavige’s right hand man for so many years, that he can at least be trusted to relay what he saw and did while head of OSA. Especially since it’s his wife they went after, who didn’t deserve it just because she married a scumbag.

            • Espiando

              Dude, who’s the one who keeps saying “Don’t feed the troll”?

            • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

              I know, I know. But I didn’t have breakfast this morning, so some troll will have to do me till dinner ๐Ÿ˜‰

            • Eclipse-girl

              I couldn’t help myself.

            • Couch_Incident

              Yeah, think it’s a troll – just too stupid to come here and talk about being an “apostate” as if that means anything to this crowd. I can understand a cult member trying to subvert the conversation (a standard SCN tactic), but I just don’t understand the psychology of troll who gets jollies and/or self importance from stirring up the shit to no purpose. Geez, get a life.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Betty, you are so on top of this! Rathbun is worse than EVERYONE. So NOT like COB, who is fighting like mad to take care of that psychotic Rathbun. Come on, Betty, tell it like it is!

            • q-bird

              You are having so much fun with this Sir. Making me laugh. Rock on. Last time he was here, it was murder & mayhem & “4of 5 gens” dobermans. This one comes here often.
              I like your style, carry on.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              OMG, Betty is a MAN? I feel violated now. I let him touch me. In my mind. I need a brain wash now… …Betty? Just be gentle…
              thanks qb.

            • i-Betty

              Please stop. I’ve accidentally eaten so much ice-cream tonight that my tummy is wobbling every time I get the giggles ๐Ÿ˜€

            • Betty

              No.He can’t even be trusted ever. Never ever again.

            • Eclipse-girl

              So by that statement, nothing any ex $cientologist says can ever be trusted.

              Somehow, that doesn’t make sense.

              I trust Karen de la Carriere, J Swift, Tory Christman, Jenna Miscavige Hill, Claire and Marc Headley, Michael, Derek etal.

            • Betty

              Rathbun is much worse, according to Richelieu.

            • Eclipse-girl

              They all corroborate one another.

            • Betty

              Agreed. All those ex-SCN are covering up for Miscavige. It’s a scam.

            • Eclipse-girl

              To the best of my knowledge all the aforementioned persons are trying their best to expose the abuses of $cientonolgy. I would hardly call that covering up for DM.

            • Betty

              Rathbun needs to come clean first before he has anything to do with pointing fingers at DM

            • Anonymookme

              Oh Betty, go clear yourself

            • Unex Skcus

              E-G, was about to say similar. I think Betty has a Bee in her Bonnet. It’s like implying that because I lied {once} as a kid, I cannot be trusted for the rest of my life.

            • Eclipse-girl

              I know, I need to log off. I just couldn’t resist. Betty my suggestion is that you read through the 1200 + posts. Not everyone trusts Marty’s motives, and we would like to hear about the evil deed he participated in. But we sure as hell want David Miscavige in jail, and the Co$ exposed so that no one will ever talk of it in 20 yrs except, as to how the victims were mislead, conned , and abused.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              EG, I don’t think you’re going to able to reason with Betty, who is not even real. S/He just appeared to yank everybody’s chain and will be gone by tomorrow. Cymboli, on the other hand, with his bad sense of humor and his brand new avatar that he created to defend himself, we are stuck with. (was that you that he had that little exchanged with earlier today?)

            • Eclipse-girl

              Yes, Cymboli and I did have a little exchange. I walked away, but Robert Ekhard (sorry for the misspelling) defended me . I thank RE for that. I am logging out. Good night.

            • Betty

              I am real too

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Go Betty, Go! Your clear-thinking analysis, attributions, and conclusions speak for themselves. I find your only posts ever in the last 15 minutes completely trustworthy. More, please, moar!

          • Couch_Incident

            And of course there are all the documented lies Hubbard told and at least one court opinion strongly confirming that, so the “Tech” is polluted at its core and can’t be salvaged. Just sayin.

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Just say it some more Betty! You gotta let these people here know the FACTS!

      • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

        And Miscavige can?

        C’mon Betty, wake up and smell the bullshit.

      • q-bird

        And there you are again, at anchor, bored out of your mind.
        Peace Theta. Stupid sh*t.

        • Betty

          What?

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Don’t even ask the wogs here any question. You’ll get nothing but distortions and lies. Get back to telling it like it is, Betty. Please let’s tell em more about how great COB is. They really need to hear that. I got your back, Betty.

      • Anonymookme

        And Pope Miscavige is trustworthy?
        Oh Betty, you are cray cray

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        Gosh. When you put it like that, it is all clear to me know. Your logic is impenetrable. Keep fighting for Truth and Reason, Betty. You can win this, I know it!

      • stateofcircle

        Your comments confuse me. There is actual video evidence of Marty and Mosey being terrorized, there are several former PI’s and cameramen confirming they were directed by Miscavige, and there are scores of others who, as it has been well documented and confirmed and corroborated, have also been stalked and terrorized on orders from Miscavige.

        So the way I see it, even if Miscavige did not issue the orders -he did, but I’ll play – as the Leader of this church, it would be his ethical and legal duty to stop such activities, since they are, well, unethical and illegal. As the self-professed Leader, he is directly responsible, and since these illegal activities have been going on for not years but decades, and have been public knowledge, by knowingly allowing illegal activities to continue not only by the members of the organization he is the Leader of, but in the name of it, he is directly responsible. And everything I wrote above is irrefutable fact; these things occurred, the people are real, these actions are illegal, and Miscavige is, by his own copious admissions, the Leader of the organization that committed these acts. There is no grey area here when is comes to the basic facts.

        • ThetaBara

          That is all mocked up entheta!

          • Veritas

            Exactly

    • Couch_Incident

      NeverIn: Saw your comment (still moderated – must be a Disqus glitch) that this could open up Rathbun to litigation and prosecution himself. Wanted to reply before going to bed.

      I’m thinking that Rathbun took the calculated risk (under Ray Jeffrey’s legal guidance) that he’ll be much more valuable as a friendly witness (i.e., not a named party) in suits and criminal cases against SCN. After all, the big targets and the deep pockets are with SCN and DM, not Rathbun. You’re right; this is war now.

  • media_lush

    well…… this exists….

    http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PL5c2Q622j7SU9eUAwG1TQGGwfIDBBevY0

    [now that’s what the real fringes of the internet are, ed]

  • HelluvaHoax!

    Please God, if you are listening, let Mosey & Ray Jeffrey subpoena Tommy Davis as a witness to impeach cult testimony and to help everyone laugh a lot.

    • Espiando

      You’re not alone. In the Mosey’s Amended Complaint thread a few days ago, about a half-dozen of us, including myself, wished for a process server in Austin to be doing a little delivery.

      Make this happen, Sugar Ray. You know you want to.

      • HelluvaHoax!

        Ray Jeffrey: Is it true, Mr. Davis, that you have personal knowledge that my client is married to “the wholetrack prison warden”?

        Tommy Davis: Wholetrack? I hope you are not trying to trap me into questions about volcanos because I won’t fall for that stupid trick and accidentally spit out confidential information from Ron Xenu and body thetans.

    • USA MRIID

      It might be that Tommy Davis would have to be considered a hostile witness, he may be getting money to keep his fucking yipper shut.

      • ThetaBara

        Either that or he wants to see his mom again.

    • Unex Skcus

      Sure do miss Tommy ‘Now-I’m-Real-Mad’ Davis ๐Ÿ™‚

      • L. C. Spencer

        He really did put the Indignity in Righteous Indignation, didn’t he? Or something.

        • Unex Skcus

          And he could do it so {well}.

  • NeverIn

    Oh my goodness! I knew from Tony’s comments last night that something big was breaking today, but Boy! and How! And then it took me until now to get enough minutes of peace in a row to read Marty’s full statement. Holygeewhiz! It’s a more satisfying read than Harry Potter and the Deathly Hallows, and I’ve barely started on the comments. That said…

    I know some folks are still pissed at Marty for everything he did during those years, but if there is one thing I’ve observed about Scientology, it’s that it makes pretty much everyone in it do shitty things almost from day one. Marty may have been in a position to do more harm than most, but he was also more directly controlled by Miscavige than most, and also has the most to lose by coming clean.

    This affidavit is as much confession as accusation, and proves that Marty isn’t trying to make a buck through litigation – he’s finally ready to take down Miscavige knowing the only way to do that is by opening himself up to civil and criminal liability. This earns him full redemption in my eyes. Marty has my sincere congratulations on this brave decision.

  • media_lush

    I’m too gezeligged to investigate this but it does seem intriguing…. Louis Theroux is a respected BBC documentary maker for those who might not know

  • Rachel Heidi

    Marty woke up?! Squee!

    • Betty

      No, he’s just bitter about being an apostate

      • Anonymookme

        Marty and COB are engaged in an intense game of liars poker.
        Ima bet on the liar.
        I win!

        • Betty

          At least you can trust COB since he’s not defrocked like Marty

          • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

            Good God, that’s a mental image I didn’t need………..

          • Unex Skcus

            Gosh Betty, you have a wicked sense of humour today! (ROFLMAO)

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            That’s the MOST truthful and righteous thing you’ve said it your entire 65 minute existence, Betty. I with YOU now!

            • Betty

              LOL

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        You have clearly put a lot of thought into this, Betty. Don’t let the entheta here get you down. You need to let these deluded people know the TRUTH. Keep it going Betty!

  • USA MRIID

    David Miscaviage under oath in the previous deposition:

    http://alley.ethercat.com/wackycultnews/buggermiscavige.txt

    Some how I doubt that the insane loon wants to be buggered in public on the witness stand again.

  • baddog5623

    COMPLAINT/ARREST AFFIDAVIT

    POLICE CASE NO: 2011-00086197
    AGENCY CODE: 02
    FRAUD RELATED ARREST: Y

    DEFENDANTS NAME (LAST FIRST MIDDLE): BRYAN, EDWARD

    DOB (MM/DD/YYYY): [redacted]
    AGE: 71
    Race: W
    Sex: M
    Ethnicity: ANGLO
    Height: 5’6″
    Weight: 165
    Hair Color: GRY
    Hair Length: SHT
    Hair Style: WAV
    Eyes: BRO
    Glasses: NO
    Facial Hair: CLN
    TEETH: NOR

    Place of Birth: SYLMAR, CALIFORNIA

    LOCAL ADDRESS (Street Apt Number) (City) (Steel (Zip):
    14952 LA MESA ST SYLMAR, CA 91342-

    CITIZENSHIP: Uzbekistan
    OCCUPATION: UNEMPLOYED

    ARREST DATE (MM/DD/YYYY): 08/12/2011
    ARREST TIME (HHMM): 4:28
    ARREST LOCATION (include name of business):
    1901 CONVENTION CENTER DR CITY OF MIAMI BEACH, FL 33139

    Charges: THEFT/UNDER
    Charge as: FS
    Counts: 1
    FL STATUTE NUMBER: 812.014

    The undersigned certifies and swears that he/she has just and reasonable grounds to believe and does believe that the above named Defendant committed the following violation of law
    On the 12 day of AUGUST 2011 at 14:08 (HHMM) at 1901 CONVENTION CENTER DR HALL-D MIAMI BEACH FL

    I WAS DISPATCHED TO HALL-D OF THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER REFERENCE A THEFT. UPON ARRIVAL I WAS ADVISED BY CONVENTION CENTER SECURITY THAT THE DEF (BRYAN) HAS BEEN WARNED OF TRESPASSING A NUMBER OF TIMES OVER THE LAST FEW DAYS. TODAY THE DEF WENT INTO A TRASH CAN ON THE OUTSIDE OF THE BUILDING AND OBTAINED USED CREDENTIALS, ALLOWING HIM TO GAIN ENTRY INTO THE EVENT WITHOUT PAYING. DEF WAS DETAINED BY SECURITY UNTIL POLICE ARRIVAL.
    WHEN I MADE CONTACT WITH DEF HE ADVISED ME THAT HE DID IN FACT TAKE A USED CREDENTIAL PASS OUT OF THE TRASH SO THAT HE COULD ENTER THE EVENT TO HARASS AN UNKNOWN PERSON WHO HAS BEEN SPREADING UNTRUTHS ABOUT HIS CHURCH. DEF KNOWINGLY ENTERED THE FLORIDA INTERNATIONAL MEDICAL EXPO AT THE MIAMI BEACH CONVENTION CENTER WITHOUT PAYING THE $79
    ENTRY FEE. IN DOING SO HE KNOWINGLY DEFRAUDED THE VICTIM. DEF ARRESTED AND TRANSPORTED TO MBPD/DCJ WITHOUT INCIDENT.

    OFFICERS / COMPLAINANTS SIGNATURE NAME (Printed): Fleischhauer, Thomas
    COURT ID NUMBER/LOC CODE: 970 ( 02 )
    AGENCY NAME: MIAMI BEACH
    Deputy of the Court or Notary Public: Dohler, Andrew 533

    • q-bird

      and this one is an OT8! Digging around in the dumpster so he could get back in! Brilliant!

      • Unex Skcus

        Born in California, citizen of Uzbekistan (???), and Unemployed. Marvellous OT powers indeed, that trash can must have been ‘at cause’.

        • Nevermore

          I noticed that – thought my painkillers had turned themselves to LSD in my veins for a moment! I wonder what the story behind that is??

      • ThetaBara

        You KNOW he had to have pulled it in!

        • q-bird

          Hiya ThetaB… garbage tech at work!
          Am reading The Sociopath Next Door.
          Tks for ref… ๐Ÿ™‚

    • USA MRIID

      Oh this is golden candy! Right there!

  • Sidney18511

    So, this means that all the cursing, screaming, degrading and yelling that the little man has done has been recorded?

    • USA MRIID

      You don’t have the RANK! to ask that! ๐Ÿ™‚

      But yes. Yes it does. ๐Ÿ™‚

    • DamOTclese2

      It means that David has not slapped enough people to make it stop yet.

  • Lori Hodgson

    Been doing the Happy Dance all day! This is fantastic news!!!

    • Espiando

      Lori, if Mosey settles, I want one of the requirements to be you getting to kick John Allender in the balls repeatedly.

      • USA MRIID

        With YouTube video of it sure to go viral. ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Espiando

          Set to “Yackety Sax”, of course.

          • USA MRIID

            Can’t it be set to the Happy Happy Joy Joy song?

            “You don’t look happy enough!”
            “What the fuck is this thing on my head?!”
            “Sing with me now…”

      • ThetaBara

        I normally do not upvote this sort of thing, but… BAHAHAHAHA!
        Fuck Allender. In the nose!

    • USA MRIID

      It has been interesting, people checked the story this morning and grudgingly had to go to work, having to wait to read the full enchilada when they got back home this evening. Sucks having a real life when there’s such fascinating popcorn-epic stuff going on in Scientologyland.

      • L. C. Spencer

        Indeed. I recall when the Tom Cruise SeeKrit Vid-ee-oh first hit desktops everywhere, I basically couldn’t contain myself and had to take an early lunch. Was frantic to download that thing before it disappeared! Good times.

      • Betty

        I know! Totally!

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          Hey Betty, quit changing your profile. It makes it hard for us to stick together. Is it true that you are a dude? Doesn’t matter, I’ll swing your way if you keep up the good work, Betty. And none of that atonement, forgiveness crap. So let’s get ’em, shoulder to shoulder. Tell them about the great and trustworthy COB!

          • Betty

            I am Betty. To which are you referring to?

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              YOU BETTY. Both of you. All of you. I just love your round little gray head and how it floats above your body. I can tell you really get exterior. I’m right there with you Betty. Now finish this up for COB: HIP HIP….

    • aquaclara

      Isn’t this just the nicest set of court docs ever?? Wrapped up tighter than a Christmas present!

      • Lori Hodgson

        Sure is!! ๐Ÿ™‚

  • USA MRIID

    1448 comments– Groan. I can’t. Stop. Myself! from reading every last one of them, too. ๐Ÿ™‚ Golly what fun.

  • USA MRIID
    • USA MRIID

      You don’t look happy enough!

  • Suppressive Tomato

    “Betty” is rad and totally getting an early start on next Thursday at 2pm in these comments tonight! If you see her posts, enjoy them. There may not, for much longer, be an org to pay her $15 for a week’s work that she’ll have to blow at the canteen just to SURVIVE! (Inside joke.) What will we all do when the cult finally implodes? We’ll all have to find another evil to fight!

    • USA MRIID

      It’s a he. I know who it is, he’s not a woman.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        That’s so typical! (You know COB wears the dress when TC is around.) It’s John Travolta, isn’t it? I know he’s doing conditions right now from his CC Gala speech.

        • NeverIn

          Wait, what? Did JT go off script? What did I miss?

          • Suppressive Tomato

            No, you have a misunderstood! I meant that it seemed to me the speech was part of his amends.

        • Unit G-Xenu’s Other Fist

          I think I just broke my spleen laughing ๐Ÿ˜€

          • Suppressive Tomato

            If I could, I would give your spleen a touch assist Unit G! Maybe my thetan can do a locational and help you out with my sekret remote OT powerz.

      • Unex Skcus

        Does ‘he’ wear a frock?

      • Betty

        That’s inconcievable

      • DamOTclese2

        I liked this amusingly silly answer ๐Ÿ™‚

        http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20120908235857AAlbRDG

      • ThetaBara

        Ooh, do tell!

  • USA MRIID

    This affidavit gives me a happy happy joy joy. And a woodie. ๐Ÿ™‚

  • Betty

    LOL, you get way less comments here than Huff Po

    • media_lush

      nice try…. lulz

      • Suppressive Tomato

        “At least you can trust COB since he’s not defrocked like Marty” was maybe “Betty’s” most playful post of the evening. I feel like frolicking in a field of windflowers at Int with Tom and Nicole (remember them?) with total upstat theta abandon! Pass the preclear folders, this round is on me!

        • i-Betty

          Hilarious!

      • Betty

        That’s taken out of context, obliviously

        • Free Minds, Free Hearts

          Question for M Lush – did you take it out of context by being oblivious or obvious? I can’t figure it out.

          • Betty

            I just said what

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Betty, what did I tell you about asking them questions? You know that they are just going to try and trip you up with their wog reasoning. You should know better. Remember, just SAY “I understand” but then just STOP your self from even thinking about it. Back the good thoughts about COB. Let them know the truth about him and Marty, Betty. I got your back, baby!

        • media_lush

          yes, obliviously

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          That’s right media-lush. You need to just quit misrepresenting the truth of things. Its wrong. Betty, get back to telling them about COB. Let’s do this thing, Betty!

          • Betty

            Right On, Helmet!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Yeah! You and me, we make a team. Let’s go get em. I’m on your back, Betty! How awesome is COB!? REALLY Awesome, right Betty!

            • Betty

              Totally, Helmet!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              I understand, Betty. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
              Wish you could see me through my head back. You would approve, Betty. TOTALLY

            • Betty

              No.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Watch it, Betty. Did you just back flash me? What would COB say!? Get back in line Betty. You better get back to saying something negative about Marty and positive about COB pretty soon. I am pulling for you, Betty, really. I don’t want to disconnect.

            • Betty

              I gotch your back too. Buddies!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              There we go, Betty. So glad I didn’t have to de-friend you per the policy. Now, answer me this Betty, Mr. Miscavige, Great COB, or THE GREATEST COB? Tell it like it is, Betty!

      • i-Betty

        I have a doppelganger! *blushes proudly*

        I just wish it wasn’t such a rubbish one ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Unex Skcus

      I… er, we… well someone is now totally upset and downstats.

    • IASREG

      Betty, I sense you are a Bitter Apostate or “Independent” Scientologist. Either way you need to get into the closest org to handle your misunderstandings, withholds, and crimes. I sense you have some money as well. Remember the “wins”? Well, have you felt the WINS of Cornerstone or Humanitarian Status? You know what to do… ARC.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      I know, Betty, right!? These people just crack me up. Just a bunch of Huff Po wannabes out here on the fringe of the internet. Tell em more about COB, Betty!

    • Free Minds, Free Hearts

      yes we are on the fringes of the internet, how on earth did you even find us here?

      • Betty

        If this was Huff Po, there might be as much as 1600 comments

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          We can do it, Betty. But you’re slacking off, Betty. Need something positive about COB. Don’t make me start not trusting you. NAW, I here for you, Betty.

          • Betty

            Now you ruined it, we are never going to make it

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Come on, Betty. We can postulate it! We are at CAUSE. I think, but only if you get back to saying something about how much better COB is to Marty. Don’t you agree whole heartedly, Betty?

            • Suppressive Tomato

              Sir Burlwood VIII, you created a ruin. I’m pretty sure that’s bad, and I was counting on you!

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Betty can get you some help for your ruin. Right Betty?

            • Suppressive Tomato

              I’m totally down, but only if afterward I can pay money to sit silently while someone insults me. I’m stupid like that.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              ME TOO! I just know you have the biggest smile across you face as you said that. Just like me!
              Oh oh. this may be going to my head…

        • ThetaBara

          We’re way past that, hon.

  • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

    Betty? Betty? NOOOOO! Were did you go, Betty?! Don’t leave me here a lone with all this enthetable TRUTH and REASON and COMPASSION. Come back, Betty!
    Or maybe not.

  • California

    Finally…………

    Popcorn time for all those attacked by OSA and their family and friends.

  • media_lush

    …. BTW, it’s a lot more interesting on SPs ‘r’ US on facebook right now

    [Tony vs Skip]

    • ThetaBara

      How do you keep up over there?

  • Schockenawd

    I know this is good stuff. I hate to be a wet blanket (and maybe it’s so late in the day that no one will see this anyway), but I just can’t help observing that what Rathbun says isn’t new. The fact that he’s saying it is new, but the information in his affidavit is old and has been put before other courts before. Those other times, the evidence came from the mouths of other ex-Scientology execs. When the evidence of Miscavige’s total control was about to be considered by an L.A. judge in 2002, it caused the church to hand over millions of dollars to Wollersheim after close to 20 years of fighting with him. Then – as now – there was wild anticipation that the revelations had caused a devastating blow to the church, from which it could not possibly recover. My point is just that Miscavige has astonishing staying power. Or luck. Whatever. I know things appear to be on a downward trajectory for the guy, but I’m not holding my breath just yet.

    • Missionary Kid

      Yes, DM is on an ever faster downward trajectory, but he’s had a long time, and a long way to go. I’m saying he’ll be around for another 5 yrs, dammit. He’ll try to hold on to the clams until the number hits about 10K or less.

      I reserve the right to be wrong, but I’m hoping that he goes to jail sooner than that.

    • DamOTclese2

      Quite true, however previous reports were taken by Judges as supportive testimony in only limited ways. THIS particular affidavit exposes direct perjury which I hope results in some prison time. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Missionary Kid

        Perjury rarely results in jail time, unfortunately, but this will go a long way towards impeaching any further testimony from Darth Midget.

  • i-Betty

    Good grief, 1615 comments must be some sort of a record. It’s 06:17 here and, no, I have not just woken up. I am still reading the comments!

    I need to a) get a life, and b) get to bed, but it’s just too exciting!

    Oh, and 3 white chocolate Magnum ice-creams accidentally fell into my mouth during the night. Clumsy!

    • Missionary Kid

      Just so you know, a troll dropped in not too long ago with the Avatar of Betty. The Bunkerites disposed of him.

      May we all have that type of clumsiness.

      • i-Betty

        What? Seriously, MK? Or are you winding me up? ๐Ÿ˜›

        [edit] Yikes! I’m reading ‘Betty’s’ comments now. I’ve got as far as some random comment about the Huffington Post. I shall read on and discover what my doppelganger has been saying ๐Ÿ˜€

        • Missionary Kid

          Seriously. We’ve got some ace troll-spotters, and I was just reading along, fat, dumb, and happy, when all of a sudden Richelieu Jr.erupted. I then looked further at this troll’s posts, and it was clear we had an LRH fanatic aboard, be they an indie, or whatever.

          They were here with their avatar for maybe half an hour.

          • i-Betty

            Love you, MK, and all the rest of you ๐Ÿ™‚

          • Robert Eckert

            It was Marcab spoofing a true believer.

            • Missionary Kid

              ๐Ÿ™‚

            • tetloj

              Just got down to here Robert and that’s what I thought. Can never remember the troll’s name except it had something to do with Marcabia. Remember he used to give us hints with his posting name…

      • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

        No, Betty and I are still fighting the good fight. She’s was singing COBs praises, but has slacked off. I am about to do a KR on her. Oh yeah, and I heard that she’s a HE. Inconceivable!

        • Suppressive Tomato

          Sir, you are totally KSW. I need you at my next car accident. Oops, did I just pull that in?

          • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

            Thanks ST. It’s an honor to call myself a scientologist. And KSW…poof, zzzzat…I don’t mince words with that. I am the only one that should be there for your next car accident, which I just postulated for you so that I could be there for you with my touch tech. I’ll bring JT, too. He’s the only one that can really help you pull it in.

      • Betty

        Amen

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          See! There he/she is! Come on Betty, let do it for COB, HIP HIP….

        • i-Betty

          Hello!

      • Suppressive Tomato

        “Betty” is maybe my favorite Scibot ever!

        • Missionary Kid

          Not too prolific and not too bright?

          • Betty

            I resemble that remark

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Way off the mark, Betty. What do you think about COB?

    • Missionary Kid

      I was wrong. The Dildo Betty is still around. We know his IP address, though.

      • Betty

        Meanie. No more posts form me. Good bye.

        • i-Betty
        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          WHAT!?! Don’t you dare give up, Betty. USE YOUR TECH. thank you. POST POSITIVELY ABOUT COB. thank you. SING WE STAND TALL. thank you. Ok, Betty. I just postulated you back in to the game. Let’s hear it for COB, Betty!

          • Betty

            no. you are a bunch of meanies

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              How can you say that. Betty?! I have your back all the way. It is just so obvious to me that you GET IT. You know that, once you’ve been in Scientology and become a bitter defrocked apostate, you can never be trusted, EVER, again. How could that NOT be true? I am here for you Betty. Get back to the truth, Betty. Please, tell me again about Marty and how he is not as trustworthy as COB. You did say that, Betty, didn’t you? Please correct me if I am wrong or if I have an MU? Please Betty.

            • Betty

              meanie. you are tracking my rfid address

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Of course I am Betty. I have to keep track of you to make sure you don’t get any other entheta. You know that we in the church do that, don’t you Betty? It is for our own good. Our own eternity, right Betty?

            • Betty

              At least I like the Eagles, unlike you pranksters LOL

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Betty, please, stay focused. Keep your mind off the MEST. Earlier, you said, and I quote: “At least you can trust COB since he’s not defrocked like Marty.” I just wanted to thank you for this, and give you the opportunity to expound. Please, Betty, give us some examples of how we can trust COB. We need to get that out there to let these fools know what’s what. OK, Betty, go: Speak the Truth.

            • Betty
            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Betty, Betty, Betty. You need to get back to your post. You know that is not what you are here for. You are here to help people, Betty. And no wog music by a bunch of degraded being drug users is going to help people. Please, tell me if I am wrong, Betty. I thought we were together on this. I mean how great is THIS:

              http://youtu.be/PSN-NFArP6g

              Come on Betty, COB: HIP HIP…

            • Betty

              That video always makes me cry. Thanks, for that.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              CRY!?! Betty, did you just restim something? CRY!? Are you kidding me? You need to get back to your TRs and get your reactive mind in order. Come one, Betty, we have a planet to clear. Now get your Pie Face back on.
              I’m still waiting Betty: COB: HIP HIP…
              (And you know he watching us because he cares…)

            • Betty

              Its going back to bivalve history, you wouldn’t get it

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Straighten up there, Betty. Your clam is showing. Are you going to say anything more about COB? I’m getting worried about you Betty?

            • Suppressive Tomato

              Oh, I totally get open or shut dichotomy. It’s fundament to swallowing LRH technology. If you have a gag reflex, anyway. Work on yours, it might be downstat.

            • Suppressive Tomato

              A good cry is a good start, “Betty”. It’s called emotion, and there’s a whole range of it that can’t be even remotely understood by the Tone Scale. Keep crying, and then call the person you miss the most.

            • ThetaBara

              Yeah, you can check out any time you like, but you can never leave. :-/

            • ThetaBara

              Is this what you joined Scientology to do? Argue with people on the internet?
              Is this your A to Es?

          • Suppressive Tomato

            “Betty” is such a joy. I want to cuddle “Betty”. Is that out-2D?

        • Douglas D. Douglas

          Betty!

          Betty!

          Betty!

        • Missionary Kid

          Waaaaah! {{{I’m so hurt!}}}

      • ThetaBara

        I wonder whether this is also the fake Bob…

    • DamOTclese2

      For some reasons comments are disappearing. I noticed it also.

  • Betty

    One thing I know is losers. And losers never get 1700 comments. Never.

    • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

      There’s that logic that you are known for, Betty. Keep that ARC flowing! Tell us about COB, Betty. About how you said he is trustworthy. Fill them in Betty!

      • Betty

        Just mark my word

        • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

          That’s the spirit! You must mean that COB is going to show everyone here his true BIG BEINGNESS, right Betty? He is going to rip that wog fool Ray Jefferies apart, won’t he Betty! Did you hear that you Bunkerites?!? Betty wants you to mark her word when ever she comments. You just show them Betty. Say that thing again about how you know that COB is trustworthy.

          • Betty

            Like I said. Losers never break 1700.

            • ThetaBara

              But, we just did! Sorry. I hope you don’t get tossed in the hole for talking to us.

            • Betty

              Losers never break 1800. It’s a fact.

            • ThetaBara

              LOL, moving the goalposts much? You said 1600 at first and then 1700. It hasn’t evne been three minutes since then and now you are upping it again. I thought statistics didn’t lie! WTF?

            • Suppressive Tomato

              Scn is an additive technology, with continually moving goals. Come on, Thetabara, you know this!

            • Betty

              That is patronly false

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              WELL SAID, Betty. That tech is awesome! Keep it up, Betty. I’ll check you tomorrow. I know you can help these losers get those stats in. I am here for you Betty. I know that I speak for you when I say, ALL HAIL COB. Right Betty!

            • Betty

              Nicely said, Helmet!

            • Nevermore

              ‘patently false’ I think you mean. Not that it is!

            • tetloj

              Patronly false? Hmmm sounds like a ‘Hail Marcabia’/’Marcabian Commander’ (I can never remember the name) type of troll to me.

            • DodoTheLaser

              LOL I think I love you.

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              OMG, you are so quick, Betty. Look at all these losers, Betty, just playing right into our hands. We got em right where we want em! All for COB, right Betty.
              COB, I suggest you promote better to be your right hand lady-man!

            • Eclipse-girl

              And this comment I just added took us to 1803

            • Sir Hemet TC Burlwood, VIII

              Right Again, Betty. You are on FIRE!. You must have gone whole track on that one. Tell us again how we should mark your words, Betty, about COB taking down that untrustworthy squirrel Marty Rathbun and his wog attorney Ray Jefferies. Keep making those uncanny predications from your whole track. Tell us about COB’s future Betty!!!

          • Suppressive Tomato

            It’s so comforting to have reality on a stat by which I can have certainty that we’re not losers. I told you the “Betty” was a gem.

    • ThetaBara

      Guess we’re not losers, then. LOL!

    • Veritas

      LOL

  • Cheryl

    Just woken up, it’s 7.30 in the UK, can’t believe how many comments although seem to have been bolstered by Betty, whoever she/he/it is.
    Off to Loch Ness today for a week with my daughter, last adventure before she abandons her old mum for university, so am going to miss the Bunkerites and all Tony’s good work for a while. Keep it up and don’t let the b*****ds grind you down!

    • tetloj

      We’ll keep your seat warm for you (and the pop corn buttered).

    • Eclipse-girl

      Have a good time with your daughter. I do think time away is good for you, good for everyone.

      • Cheryl

        Thanks. Don’t know where the time goes.

  • ThetaBara

    I just re-watched Miscavige on Koppel.
    His attorneys are going to earn their money if they have to put him on the stand.

  • Cheryl

    Found this pic of D M, he thinks he has an idea!!

    • phronsie

      Dude, I can not allow that; I have a Danger Mouse mug that I love to drink out of! Cloaca of Bowel can be the Dunder Mouse or the Dander Mouse, but DM for me will always be the Ace, Amazing! Solving crimes with his buddy, Penfold. He’s probably working now to aid the overthrow of Dastardly Mouse.

      • Cheryl

        First time I’ve been called a dude!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Well, what a day! What a September!

    Marty’s affidavit is very, very telling and I really doubt Monique will agree to settle.

    Something tells me the Distraction Tech won’t cut it this time, Super Power or not.

    The Titanic just hit the iceberg and all kinds of people and things are about to surface.

    This is history in the making and we are part of it.

    There will be more books, shows and movies.

    I am pretty sure of it.

    Love to all.

    • ThetaBara

      Sleep well, Dodo. See you tomorrow!

  • Richie

    Seems to me the Rathbuns set a brilliant trap and Davy boy walked right into it.

    • Veritas

      Exactly

    • i-Betty

      I think you just hit the nail on the head.

  • DodoTheLaser

    I wonder how many people are still in RTC, and how many of them will suffer from sleep deprivation because of this EPIC flap, in the next few weeks. The blows are brewing…

    • Eivol Ekdal

      Ya know McShane is in the McShit.

      • DodoTheLaser

        Probably. I bet them top dogs are missing sweet 80’s –
        so much dough and power, so little accountability.

  • DodoTheLaser

    Off topic impromptu:

    Question: What is the difference between Ideal Scientology Org and not ideal one?

    Answer: Nicer buildings. Buffalo Org was made into Ideal TWICE. It’s still pretty empty.

    • ThetaBara

      Ideally, they’d all be completely empty!

  • Jeb Burton

    I went back and looked at DMs affidavit in this case. What kind of lawyer would let him file this? It doesnt appear that it is carefully worded and line 5 ot the affidavit seems to have easy to prove lies. Is a PI considered to be an agent? If so, DM has some explaining to do, Is anyone familiar with what the penalties are for lying on an affidavit? I think it may be time for old Davy to take a nice long cruise on the Freewinds.

    • DodoTheLaser

      The Freewinds might be too obvious at this point.

      Small, obscure island perhaps? Or Cuba?
      North Korea? I dunno. It’s too early.

      COB is not done yet.

      • L. C. Spencer

        He is if he stays too long on the Freewinds! *cough cough*

    • Nevermore

      No doubt he dictated it to them, over their protests. After all, he KNOWS everything about everything, so who are they to try and tell him he’s making a mistake? Arrogant prick – hoist by his own half-wit petard!

    • theoracle

      What kind of lawyer would let him file this? The lawyer with a mortgage payment ! Cha Ching Cha Ching!

  • DodoTheLaser

    Just to remind and refresh:

    MONIQUE RATHBUN FILES SUIT AGAINST SCIENTOLOGY OVER HARASSMENT

    http://tonyortega.org/2013/08/21/monique-rathbun-files-suit-against-scientology-over-harassment/

    Tweet this Kirstie.

    • i-Betty

      Brilliant ๐Ÿ™‚

  • DodoTheLaser

    Scientology’s main defense PR line was always – ” We are new religion, that’s why we are being attacked.”

    Makes sense. One question – were you attacked before trying to take over entire countries, including the largest infiltration of US Government in the history or after?

    Also, how is the expansion in Russia these days?

  • tetloj

    53 minutes to Friday’s article…what do you go to after this blockbuster?

    • DodoTheLaser

      I know, right?!

      Tony is just a very good reporter, he is not a wizard of Oz, thank god.

      Good thing – there no shortage of stories these days. 43 minutes now ๐Ÿ™‚

      • tetloj

        I could seriously handle Orders of the Day right now….something nutty or fruity, Hubbard-style

        • DodoTheLaser

          Haha! That’s funny! I will try to give you something, brother.

          On one of the Student Hat tapes, Hubbard makes a joke about duck hunters, I think.

          It was about hunters anyway. I don’t remember the context, but I do remember it was funny
          in a con kind of way, even when I was in. So basically it’s about a bunch of hunters chilling in a comfy cabin, while the newb hunter standing in the cold swamp up to his waist outside the cabin waiting for the ducks, holding his rifle tight. The rest of hunters are laughing and the ducks never show up. Hubbard and his stories and pranks. May be someone can quote that joke straight from Study Tapes.

          It’s not Orders of the Day, but I hope you dig it. ๐Ÿ™‚

      • Jeb Burton

        He set the bar pretty high. I want a blockbuster today, bigger than the day before.

        • DodoTheLaser

          Me too. But he has to feed the cats and what not, as well. Give man a break.

          Feel free to submit/share your story or do something epic.
          Tony is not our personal army. Nor are anonymous. Or anyone.

          Don’t mean to sound like a preaching, arrogant asshole – same applies to me.

      • tetloj

        Time to put on tea and toast for the morning crew ๐Ÿ˜‰

        • DodoTheLaser

          Scrambled eggs, sausage, biscuit, hush browns and orange juice ๐Ÿ™‚

        • Sherbet

          You’re very considerate! Milk in mine, please.

    • Veritas

      Hard to beat!

  • Lark Smith

    Hello, my name is Lark and I am a bunker addict lol . RL :- ( is keeping me from posting regularly- but I am enjoying all the insightful comments folks are making (and the snark too!). I am using my super up arrow tech to support the great contributors here! Thanks Tony – great article!

    • Robert Eckert

      Hi Lark!

    • Veritas

      Welcome, Lark! Love the avatar!

      • i-Betty

        You used the fleeing clams, Lark! I love it ๐Ÿ˜€

    • Eclipse-girl

      Welcome. This is a good place. Tony deserves the Pulitzer. do they give them for books?

    • i-Betty

      I thought I’d not seen you around for a few days, Lark. At least we know you’re ok ๐Ÿ™‚

      Big hugs xxx

      • Lark Smith

        Thanks Betty.

  • i-Betty

    I’ve just had a horrible thought.

    I really, really hope Miscavige isn’t physically beating and hurting his subordinates right now. It seems to be his go-to stress reliever and I’m worried for the people around him.

    ๐Ÿ™

    • ThetaBara

      I worry about this as well. When they send someone over here to troll us and we laugh, I hope they don’t get into too much trouble for it. It’s so obvious, but it is a real person out there somewhere.
      However, if it’s Allender, they can go ahead and toss him in the hole. Nasty man.

      • Suppressive Tomato

        The thing is though, that the abuse seems to be the only thing that snaps a staff member out of the trance. I’d wager that if COB hadn’t made the mistake of throwing Rathbun in the Hole, he’s still be in the game. People blow when they’ve had too much.

        • ThetaBara

          I know, I just don’t want to feel like I’m a party to it.

    • Mooser

      Has anybody actually seen and talked to Shelley? Anybody who would actually recognize her?

  • Suppressive Tomato

    “I have never availed myself of the privilege of conducting activities within the State of Texas.”

  • Mooser

    “…Monique, who met Marty in 2005 and married him in 2010,”

    Long courtships are so romantic. Mine was over, it seemed, in no more time then it took to load two shells and close the breech.

    • phronsie

      And her Daddy was behind you all the way….. lol

      • Mooser

        “And her Daddy was behind you all the way….. lol”

        Sure, but I was still expecting something a bit better in response to the preacher’s “Wilt thou…” than “I suppose he’ll do”.

  • Mooser

    Wait a minute, let me get this straight. Marty Ratburn knows just how many bad things Miscarriage has done because for many years he helped him do them? Ho-Kay! And working with Miscarriage in pursuit of this huge criminal fraud makes Ratburn more credible? Sure, okay.

    • Suppressive Tomato

      At this point, he just needs to convince the judge that it’s worthwhile to put COB on the stand. Once the trial is underway, there’s a lot of people who can corroborate. Besides, it’s not that uncommon for someone to “turn state’s evidence”. Accomplices are often key witnesses.

      • Mooser

        “Accomplices are often key witnesses.”

        You got that right! ‘Your Honor, I, Marty Ratburn, know better then anyone what an efficient harassing amd defrauding organization Scientology is. After all, I helped build it, and I am very good at these things! ‘

        • Mooser

          I wonder if Ratburn has a calender with all the relevant statute-of-limitation dates marked. Sort of hard to find any heroes in this.
          ‘Scared? You bet I was scared, Your Honor! I know what kind of procedures I set up and implemented, to take care of traitors to the faith!’

    • theoracle

      Hey! Jim Logan! Where have you been buddy? You would be a great witness to be called forward in this matter right now!

  • Deeana

    See, here’s the thing. Those of us never-ins who read here often cannot interpret the exchanges between the once-ins and the likely-still-ins.
    If some of you could possibly provide translations it would be most helpful!

  • Kimberly Gooden Bumpas

    It’s all starting to unravel. I can’t wait to see where this goes. Isn’t it curious that Scientology and David Miscavige may be taken down by the Rathbuns.

  • theoracle

    No Tony No! You do NOT understand! David Miscavige did NOT LIE, he followed the religion’s ethics code.

    You see, it is against the religion to comply with criminal or civil law. This is a religious matter. This is from the religious ethics code of the Church of Scientology, listed under SUPPRESSIVE ACTS:

    “Delivering up the person of a Scientologist without justifiable defense or lawful protest ……to the demands of civil or criminal law.”

    It is against the religion to comply with civil and criminal law, do you understand Tony?

    It is part of the religious technology to harm attack and suppress people Tony. It is right there in the ethics book:

    Under Liability: 2. “Deliver an effective blow to the enemies of the group …”

    Under Doubt: 3. Decide on the basis of “the greatest good for the greatest number of dynamics” whether or not it should be ATTACKED, HARMED, SUPPRESSED or Helped.

    Do you get it Tony? These are religious demands and codes. It is part of the religion to engage in domestic terrorism and then refuse to comply with the demands of civil and criminal law when you are caught. This is David’s “religious freedom” awarded by the U.S. government. He is NOT lying, he is being religious and exercising his religious RIGHTS and complying with the codes of his religion.

    It is against the RELIGION to answer up to the demands of civil or criminal law without lawful protest. Having his attorney deny all of the evidence and the charges of domestic terrorism is just a lawful way to protest answering up to the demands of civil and criminal law that all of the other people abide by.

    These are the codes of Sovereign Citizens.

    Self-described sovereign citizens take the position that they are answerable only to common law and are not subject to any statutes or proceedings at the federal,state or municipal levels, and that they are “free of any legal constraints”. They especially reject most forms of taxation as illegitimate.

    David will not be guaranteed an eternity if he does not torture Monique Rathbun and tell the State of Texas to fuck off. Don’t you get it? This is a religious matter and he has religious freedoms.

    • Tory Christman

      This push they have of ‘religious protection’….with enough CIVIL RIGHTS being abused,
      In this day and age………….there IS going to be a point where their “protection” ceases.
      My guess is that shall be THE day when someone with enough personal integrity, or personal
      fear……says: “ENOUGH” and that day, I predict now on this day, Sept 7, 2013…. IS coming.
      Tick Tock, “Dave”…..as I’ve told you for years: Karma cannot be fair gaimed or paid off. Your army is dwindling, and thanks to your very abusive actions continuing, we critics are growing, daily. Oh baby! Yes we are ๐Ÿ™‚ Tory/Magoo

  • Alice Morland

    Pass the popcorn! Man, this is more enjoyable then watching the Housewives of Beverly Hills (my guilty pleasure). DM is looking pretty naked right about now, all his secrets are coming out. Except that he had his wife murdered which will come out soon enough. You know, there is just NO excuse for anyone to join this cult now that they’ve been so exposed. Back in the day, secrets, manipulation, and blackmail ran this “organization”, but they can no longer maintain that evil recipe, the truth is out. As for Travolta, Alley, Cruise, etc., they should be so ashamed of themselves. To blatently ignore the obvious, to CHOOSE not to investigate but rather accept the Cult’s “victim” defense on every charge, is not just irresponsible, but puts as much blood on their hands as DM. I will say though, my gut feeling on Travolta is he’s being seriously threatened/blackmailed to stay in the cult and keep his mouth shut. NOTHING about him gives me the sense that he supports them, other than robotic gestures and appearances. I have no take on his wife, or the other celebritites. Cruise is a sociopath, an egomanic character of his former self. He’s too far in, his ego is too well fed, he will NEVER bail until the whole house comes crumbling down. Which, gleefully, is apt to happen extremely soon. I definitely see DM in a cell next to Madoff.

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